[00:00] heya,mfillpot [00:00] ^X [00:00] fuzzix (~fuzzix@93.107.80.209) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [00:00] yo MLanden, I see that the primary channel is still invite only [00:01] what "primary channel" [00:01] MLanden: #slackware [00:01] mfillpot: there is no #slackware. [00:01] lol [00:01] sorry wrong recipient [00:01] BP{k}: go to sleep [00:01] well there is .. but it is not in use. [00:01] gm152 (~gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:01] fuzzix (~fuzzix@93.107.66.58) joined ##slackware. [00:02] lw0x15: there's martinis! sleep would be a waste ;) [00:02] confusid (~confusid@c-98-231-191-231.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:02] martini at 5am, [00:02] ._. [00:02] gm152 (~gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:02] lol....kinda like a 13th floor...:D [00:02] lw0x15: it's never too early ;) [00:02] why is it still not in use, that message is making me think that pat is having a private meeting or something important [00:03] macroron (~ron@c-98-254-46-12.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [00:03] mfillpot: freenode policy? [00:03] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-61-114.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [00:03] michiel (~michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) joined ##slackware. [00:03] michiel (michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) left ##slackware ("/*Leaving*/"). [00:03] BP{k}: did we break a rule? [00:03] mfillpot: huh? no, #slackware was registered, but forwards to ##slackware. Since there is no official slackware channel. [00:04] m0n-E (~m0ney@adsl-70-233-149-86.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:04] mfillpot: I just tried to join #slackware on my other nick [aka michiel], and ended up in ## as it should. [00:04] BP{k}: ok [00:05] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:06] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [00:07] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.97) joined ##slackware. [00:08] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [00:09] birdlives (~birdlives@96.240.50.121) joined ##slackware. [00:09] okay, I'm back. Any valuable info gleaned from the lshw? [00:10] jescis (1000@adsl-93-90-136.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:10] Could somebody pastebin a working rc.inet1 script for slackware current? I keep getting dhcpcd errors [00:10] i just bought a new burner and i cant burn anything i keep making coasters with k3b so i tried cdrecord as root and this happens http://pastebin.ca/1774020 k3b reports cdrecord does not have access to device however i am in group cdrom ls -l shows the device is part of that group [00:10] macroron (~ron@c-98-254-46-12.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:10] jescis (1000@adsl-93-90-136.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [00:10] birdlives: are you trying to do manual of dhcp addressing and are you running mutliple adapters? [00:11] Euthanatos (~chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [00:11] mfillpot: no, I just upgraded, and when ever I restart a interface, it says that some option was invalid and doesn't send a request [00:11] I have another unrelated question as well. I want to try out slackware-current on an extra partition. Can I just copy everything in my current runnning system over to the new partition then use slackpkg to update to current? [00:12] lw0x15: join ##slackware-offtopic [00:12] birdlives: then it would be best if you pastebin your file so we can tell you what is wrong [00:12] ok [00:12] mfillpot: it's the rc.inet1 script, not rc.inet1.conf [00:13] BP{k}: what? i havent said anything for the past 10minutes :| [00:13] birdlives: so what stops you from using rc.inet1.conf from the slackware-current package? [00:14] macroron (ron@c-98-254-46-12.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [00:14] and diff the result [00:14] nn gang [00:14] macavity (~macavity@212088073001.static.sonofon.dk) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:14] oobe: Bad or incompatible media? [00:15] macroron (~ron@c-98-254-46-12.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:15] gm152, i tried 2 types of media [00:15] lw0x15: meh, nm. btw what are you doing up at this hour? [00:15] BP{k}: nothing, that works. But I think I messed up my rc.inet1 script, because whenever I do ./rc.inet1 wlan0_restart , I get an error that says it tried an invalid option for dhcpcd [00:15] i know thats what it says in the error [00:15] BP{k}: in fact i just got u[ [00:15] but it has to be somthing else [00:15] up [00:16] I'm not sure then. I see errors like that for some manufacturers of optical media but ok for other manufacturers. [00:16] veritos (~4c68f9a7@gateway/web/freenode/x-nnggyzpdvmhfcgly) joined ##slackware. [00:17] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [00:18] The manufacturer's website usually lists which manufacturers of optical media are recommended to use. Has it ever successfully burned media in the past? [00:21] Yeah, when I run the script it says : Polling for DHCP server on interface wlan0:/sbin/dhcpcd: invalid option -- 'R' [00:21] here is a pastebin of the script http://pastebin.org/84780 [00:22] gm152, i just bought it its new [00:22] when I upgraded, i said not to change the configuration files, so I think that is the problem [00:22] daidoji (~daidoji70@99.48.50.198) joined ##slackware. [00:22] daidoji (~daidoji70@99.48.50.198) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:24] birdlives: you have merged all the *.new files right? [00:24] jescis (1000@adsl-93-90-136.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:25] jescis (1000@adsl-93-90-136.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [00:25] BP{k}: I asked slackpkg to prompt for changes, I guess i told it to discard changes for that script [00:25] juice (1000@67.48.17.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:26] birdlives: run "find /etc/ -name "*.new" and see what it returns [00:27] juice (1000@67.48.17.30) joined ##slackware. [00:28] BP{k}: it shows me a new rc.inet1.conf file [00:28] ga_bash (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:28] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-115-225.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:28] birdlives: guess what you're going to do next ;) [00:28] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:28] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:29] ga_bash (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [00:29] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:30] BP{k}: from what I can tell, it seems the same. Just with default values [00:32] brb [00:34] Euthanatos (~chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [00:36] slackwarebob (~bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:37] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:37] StonedSlacker (1000@cpe-024-074-031-046.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:38] grazymax (~grazymax@host72-153-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:38] muraii (~muraii@unaffiliated/muraii) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:39] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:40] alright, I just commented out DHCP_RESOLVE in rc.inet1, it works now [00:41] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.64.33.148) joined ##slackware. [00:42] tanamo_ (~tanamo@125.252.70.230) joined ##slackware. [00:44] birdlives (~birdlives@96.240.50.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [00:45] tanamo (~tanamo@125.252.70.230) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:46] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [00:47] I have to say this, I love working with slackware. Working with samba and rdp is so easy, I don't know why anyone complains about it on other distros. [00:48] 8) [00:48] veritos (~4c68f9a7@gateway/web/freenode/x-nnggyzpdvmhfcgly) left irc: Quit: Page closed [00:48] Nick change: mario_ -> mario [00:48] my router is working great on dd-wrt now [00:49] :-D [00:49] no more "why did the internet just go out?" moments [00:49] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [00:49] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Changing host [00:49] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [00:49] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-128-65.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:50] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-115-225.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:50] fhobia: It is nice hearing that, I haven't had those issue in years now [00:51] i went on a flashing binge after that [00:51] flashed my tv [00:51] ...don't notice any difference though [00:51] haha [00:52] grazymax (~grazymax@host221-152-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [00:52] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:52] fhobia, firming the ware?......:P [00:52] tking (~tking@unaffiliated/tking) joined ##slackware. [00:52] o_o [00:53] fhobia: have you flashed you bios yet? [00:53] a while back i did [00:53] i don't think there any new updates for my crappad [00:54] there was supposedly a fix in the firmware for the fan in the last bios update [00:54] but i read later that they introduced a typo and the problem didn't get fixed [00:54] a typo just for my model [00:54] lol [00:55] fhobia: that happens, unfortunately the last update for my bios disabled the OS's capability to read the internal clock [00:55] grazymax (~grazymax@host221-152-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [00:56] !? lol [00:56] man [00:56] need openbios or something [00:56] wish my tv was open...it has this bug where if muted for like 10 minutes it sets the volume to 0 [00:57] mfillpot: Does hwclock still work? [00:57] so then i have to press volume up a whole ton [00:57] to set the clock [00:57] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:57] mfillpot, did you do a rollback? [00:58] antiwire: we have been through this before, it reads what I have pushed through an ntpdate update on boot. [00:58] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:58] unfortunately with my workaround it is good enough for now, if I roll back I loose the virtualization support and son't do 64-bit VMs [00:58] s/son't/can't/ [00:58] mfillpot, ahhh..i see [00:59] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [01:00] all it is is a clock, and if I can set it on boot from the nist servers then I am in good shape [01:03] http://cantonbecker.com/music/white-noise-sleep-sounds/ [01:03] jg71_ (~edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [01:03] macroron (~ron@c-98-254-46-12.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [01:04] Megaf (~quassel@unaffiliated/megaf) joined ##slackware. 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[01:10] #3 causes an anxious response for me [01:10] 1 and 2 are fine though [01:10] antiwire, be like Bob Ross and use the main mp3 as your canvas and make "happy little trees"..:D [01:11] antiwire, same on #3...expecting some laughing or talking in the background for some reason [01:15] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: Bored by the chore of saving face. [01:15] gm152 (~gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [01:16] arcfide (arcfide@adsl-99-50-224-230.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [01:19] tking (~tking@unaffiliated/tking) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:20] LSD` (~ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:20] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-128-65.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [01:21] alisonken1home (~alisonken@71.104.224.127) joined ##slackware. [01:21] that whole hd* switching to sd* thing had me going for a bit [01:23] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 3814, sources date: 20091222, built on: 2010-01-09 17:48:42 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [01:24] 8) ...i always had sd*, so I was unaffected... [01:26] i think i need to switch to grub though [01:27] i use ntldr -> lilo ...so i have to run lilo, then copy the 512 bytes of the hd to a file, copy that c:/, and then reboot [01:27] have to load windows to copy that file :-/ [01:27] hmm maybe i should just use ntfs-3g or wahtever [01:27] i bet thats stable by now... [01:27] ga_bash (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [01:29] ga_bash (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [01:31] giuppy (~giuppy@host249-163-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:31] anyone see this before? http://pastebin.ca/1774059 [01:34] alkos333 (~alkos333@173.7.41.164) joined ##slackware. [01:36] ga_bash (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [01:38] fhobia: what's all that for? my lilo always automagically sets up to boot windows [01:39] jeev: hard drive or controller failing maybe? [01:39] it's a slackware guest on a slackware host [01:40] the host is a raid1 system [01:40] nothing in the logs on host. [01:40] it could be 'virtio' [01:44] it's not doing it under non virtio or 'scsi' drivers, i launched qemu-kvm without drive flags and it's rsyncing without problem [01:46] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.81.227) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:49] Sugar tits? who the fsck called me Sugar tits?!? [01:49] :P [01:50] hcfd (~fed@host86-131-169-87.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [01:50] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. 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[02:28] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:28] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:28] welcome back MLanden [02:29] thanks fire|bird [02:30] fire|bird: able to mess with minitube with your installation of KDE4? [02:30] MLanden: yeah, I have it installed, haven't done a whole lot with it though. [02:30] amazon10x: i kept the ntldr, because i wanted to still be able to boot into the emergency recovery partition that came with my thinkpad [02:31] then again...never used that recovery after 5 years . . . [02:31] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [02:31] zarock (zarock@olaf.pepin.pl) joined ##slackware. [02:31] i should just delete windows too... [02:31] i never dual boot :-P [02:31] greetings [02:31] 8) greetings [02:32] MLanden: KDE 4.4 is due out next week, 2.9.10 iirc. [02:32] fire|bird: ok...'bout the same with youtube-pl though it's helpful to use with the text based browsers [02:33] MLanden: yeah, I like youtube-dl, also there's clive and here in the openSUSE repos, yayd (yet another youtube downloader) [02:34] fire|bird: cool [02:35] i just use the downloadhelper firefox plugin [02:35] yeah, that works well too. [02:36] why did mpg321 get switched for mpg123 in -current? [02:36] not that i care, just want to know [02:36] xizut (1000@189.83.6.106) joined ##slackware. [02:37] iirc, those are two seperate things. I could be wrong. [02:39] previously, mpg123 was a symlink to mpg321 :-) [02:39] always thought it came down to licenses with mpg123 and its alternative mpg321 [02:42] foobarz (1000@125.25.118.226.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) joined ##slackware. [02:42] foobarz (1000@125.25.118.226.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) left irc: Changing host [02:42] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [02:42] zarock (zarock@olaf.pepin.pl) left irc: Quit: scrouix [02:53] fire|bird: can I ask you for some help? This guy keeps sending a malware link that installs an .exe on your pc. I used a virtual machine to intall that thing and the used wireshark to see what's going on [02:53] i managed to get an IP address in my country but i am really new to dissecting the protocol [02:54] why are you even wanting to install the exe to see what it's doing? just delete the email. [02:56] lol l2 better spam filtering [02:56] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:57] agentc0re: he sends a link by IM [02:57] and i am doing it because i wanna learn [02:57] Azeotrope: so let him know hes infected then block him. [02:58] Azeotrope: have you seen any of the movies in the alien series? [02:58] anybody built fping6 ? what's the configure parameter for ipv6 ? icouldn't find anything on slackbuilds. [02:58] Richlv: what? you mean ping6? [02:58] no, fping6 [02:58] spook: yea, all of them [02:59] why? [02:59] Azeotrope: remember how they try to capture and study the aliens? [03:01] Richlv: i cant seem to get the source code. [03:01] hmm. looks like download on fping page links to some old version [03:01] and they got infected? [03:01] spook, it's supposedly linked from http://fping.sourceforge.net/ [03:01] but the link for ipv6 enabled package seems to be incorrect [03:01] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-220-161.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:01] damn, that's one umaintained package [03:02] Richlv: http://sourceforge.net/projects/fping/files/ [03:03] spook: the got infeceted cause they didn't use slackware and virtualbox [03:03] spook, i've already downloaded a couple of packages and looked there, but so far no package seems to have ipv6 support [03:03] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:04] mayday_jay (~mayday_ja@control-console.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:04] Richlv: fping looks pretty dead to me [03:04] yes, but it is quite widely used [03:04] which is sad, of course [03:04] Richlv: i dont see how, when i cant seem to download the sourcecode :) [03:05] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:05] well, you can get http://fping.sourceforge.net/download/fping.tar.gz [03:05] but that seems to be pre-ipv6 version [03:05] looks like most distros patch the shit out of it (ipv6, source ip support etc) [03:06] Richlv, "if in doubt, get patches from debian" ;-) http://packages.debian.org/sid/fping [03:07] good point, doesn't look like i have much choice :) [03:08] Richlv, make a slackbuild with the patches, post on SBo :) [03:09] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:09] Agiofws_ (~Agiofws@athedsl-422170.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [03:10] slava_dp, i'm still trying to figure out what exactly debian patch does [03:10] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-115-225.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:11] this is wicked. to enable ipv6, you have to pass -DIPV6=1 to make [03:15] retsudo (~retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:15] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-189.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. 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[03:37] It worked, surprisingly. However, I accidently deleted my group 'users' and somehow now regular users cannot use X, it says it cannot move Xorg.0.log.old etc etc etc [03:37] erk (~MrEd@about/apple/iPod/BeZerk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:37] ChArLoK_16 (1000@188.247.13.229) joined ##slackware. [03:37] use tar, not cp. [03:37] lol, besides being ass backwards from the start, what did I do wrong? [03:37] ahh [03:37] tuvok302Lappy (vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-116.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby [03:37] well, at least use "cp -a". [03:38] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:39] ok, for the record, i managed to compile fping with ipv6 support [03:39] better, "tar -cf - /hd/* | tar -xpf -C /hd2" [03:39] StonedSlacker, something like this ^^ [03:39] I am taking note of that [03:39] That's pretty cool [03:40] I wish I knew my way around bash that well\ [03:41] I like that [03:41] okay, so I should just start anew [03:41] Action: slava_dp is waiting for an fping.SlackBuild from Richlv ;-) [03:41] why is it that regular users can no longer use X? [03:42] slava_dp, note that i've never created one ;) [03:42] Can I fix that? [03:42] StonedSlacker, cp did not preserve permissions. use cp -a. [03:42] But the tar trick will? [03:42] anavel (~Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Quit: Real_Life(); [03:42] cp -a or the tar trick. [03:43] I like the tar trick :^D Imma just do it again and use the tar tricki. Thanks slava! [03:43] sid77 (~sid77@62.149.201.173) joined ##slackware. [03:43] tar is very versatile, if you master it, it allows moving files over ssh etc. [03:43] earp_child (~Dirty@72-4-87-94.gncsin06.customers.broadreach.net) joined ##slackware. [03:44] if only tar had format that was more suited for modern usage... [03:44] ahh, that's what the p is for [03:45] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [03:46] mkdir temp; cd temp; ssh root@remotehost "tar -cf - /*" | tar -xpf - [03:46] ChArLoK_16 (1000@188.247.13.229) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:47] mkdir temp; cd temp; ssh root@remotehost "tar -czf - /*" > remotehostfs.tar.gz [03:48] anavel (~Zack@fm-ip-118.136.212.154.fast.net.id) joined ##slackware. [03:48] anavel (~Zack@fm-ip-118.136.212.154.fast.net.id) left irc: Changing host [03:48] anavel (~Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [03:48] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-189.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:48] earp_child (~Dirty@72-4-87-94.gncsin06.customers.broadreach.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:49] Do I need to 'remount' the root partition or can I just ' tar -cf - /*' ? Also, what is that second dash for? [03:50] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@207.81.93.133) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [03:50] lyminsk (~lyminsk@20151194202.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [03:50] lyminsk (~lyminsk@20151194202.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Changing host [03:50] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [03:51] StonedSlacker, you can just tar over the running root partition. slackware startup scripts will take care of stale files left on the fs. [03:51] doomey (~doomey@188.24.77.78) joined ##slackware. [03:51] StonedSlacker, -f means "read from/to file", - means stdin/stdout. [03:51] eZz (~ez@195.114.7.5) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [03:52] its telling me to remove the leading '/' [03:52] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Client Quit [03:52] nope, it tells you it removed it. [03:53] ah, you're right. Damn I should pay closer attention to things [03:54] -f means read from file, '-f -' (extra space/dash) means stdin/stdout [03:54] slava_dp: ^^ [03:54] helps to be specific with new users of tar :) [03:55] See, that is hard for me to understand. I can remember what you're saying but I don't understand it. [03:55] Here is the error I'm getting. http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/eDf8Mc85.html [03:56] StonedSlacker: 'man tar', and remember when looking at the -f option, that if you use '-' (dash) as the filename, then the stdin/stdout (think of the pipe option) is the file [03:56] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-5-22.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:57] Thanks ali [03:57] "cannot open -C"... lol :) [03:58] StonedSlacker, -f - [03:58] heaumer (~heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [03:58] alisonken1noc, true about having to be more specific. [03:58] '-f -' f [03:58] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:59] -C is wrong? [04:00] I copied the tar trick exactly I just changed directory names [04:00] no you didn't [04:00] man tar, seriously [04:00] my fault [04:00] AlexElliott__ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [04:00] -C means "change to this directory" [04:01] | tar -xpf - -C /hd2 [04:01] sorry to both you adaptr. Iv'e man tarred a hundred thousand times, it still confuses me. [04:01] then you probably need to use it more, to learn the effects [04:02] thanks for your patience slava, I'm off to try this again [04:02] adaptr, man, he's used tar for the first time. give him peace. [04:03] then he probably shouldn't say he's read the man pag "a hundred thousand times" [04:03] besides unpacking source tarballs and what not, yes, this is my first time using tar. [04:04] I have never 'used' tar, ya dig? I always wanted to know how to use it but when I read the man page I just dont get it, I find the man pages very hard to follow in general [04:05] StonedSlacker, peace. we all started from level zero. i'm glad to help. [04:05] Besides the fact that everytime I type 'man tar' my girlfriends starts laughing [04:07] Well, I appreciate that slava, I really do, but I'm ashamed to tell you how long I've been using linux. [04:07] I should be waaay better at this than I am [04:08] I have been using linux exclusively for 15 years lol [04:09] have you been Stoned for the past 15 years..?? ;) [04:09] o_O [04:09] But I always focused on getting X up and running and internet, after that I just used it. Now I'm taking more interest in the command line [04:10] if you've always used slackware for that period, I find this very hard to believe, although I'm sure it's a testament to how easy slackware is to set up... [04:10] Why you say that, Croupier? [04:10] StonedSlacker: because that would explain why you're not as good at this as you could be? :P [04:11] I have not, adaptr. I used Slackware in the beginning and then bounced around to different distros depending on which supported the most of my hardware out of the box. The last couple years have been wasted on ubuntu. [04:11] indeed [04:12] What u sayin', fire|bird? You think I aint applied myself? lol [04:12] lol [04:12] StonedSlacker: absolutely [04:12] that shows how easy it is too use ;) [04:12] StonedSlacker: I was just offering up a possibility of why The-Croupier said what he said, I'm not saying anything otherwise. :P [04:13] At any rate, here I am, grey hair a three day beard and full of questions. [04:13] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:13] heaumer (~heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [04:13] fire|bird: thats another possibility that of the using something and never learning about it ;) cos its soo nice soooo easy, sooo hot... ;) you just want to use it...;) like the women ;) [04:13] StonedSlacker: no problem, just don't expect to be spoonfed when the answers may be trivial and expounded at length in manuals or web documentation [04:14] Richlv (~rich@80.232.234.137) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:14] StonedSlacker: ok, is that because you're "Stoned" or because you have so many questions and so few answers that you've been hitting your head against the wall? :P [04:14] I feel that fire|bird [04:14] :) [04:14] Richlv (~rich@80.232.234.137) joined ##slackware. [04:14] adaptr: As if any of you heathens would spoon feed anything [04:14] StonedSlacker: Just don't give up with it, before you know it, you'll be able to help others with their issues/questions. :) [04:15] depends on what is being fed :) [04:15] StonedSlacker: I would spoonfeed a pretty girl [04:15] no, wait, that should be spoon, then feed [04:15] only cause you want the panties [04:15] haha [04:15] my wife would have an issue with that one :) [04:16] wives totally get in the way of pantie snipin' [04:16] StonedSlacker: to answer most of the future questions... let me give you a small glimse to the future answers you will get: "read the topic" "read the documentation you will find in the topic" "google it" and if you dont find it in any of those places... ;) then .... you know what happens then ..;) [04:16] she one of those that prefers it the other way around ? [04:16] adaptr: .......:( [04:17] The-Croupier: ? [04:18] is Niels Horn here ? (zabbix slackbuild maintainer) [04:19] Richlv: He's in #slackbuilds [04:19] fire|bird, thanks [04:22] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [04:22] The hardware related channels are pretty dead, is there a good channel to ask hardware related questions? I'd like to figure out why my processor will only run two thirds of what it's supposed to. [04:23] Intel with EIST ? [04:23] tanamo_ (~tanamo@125.252.70.230) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [04:23] got a question: If you had to chose between two girls which ONE would you choose: 1. Is stuck up to her ex-boyfriend ( speaks about him, checks his movements....) 2. one goes out alot,changes bf alot...etc but tries to be with you.......:( [04:23] The-Croupier, neither [04:24] Action: slava_dp shrugs [04:24] slava_dp: agreed :) [04:24] rather be single than with one of those two. :P [04:24] uh-huh. [04:25] well that sucks [04:25] well, that means that i will continue doing what im doing ;) thanks guys appreciated muchos [04:25] #1 sounds like she isn't completely over him, i.e. checking his movements and #2 sounds like she's non-commiting to a relationship and will cheat. [04:25] alisonken1noc: well, that is how 90% of the female population is like in greece ;) [04:26] fire|bird: exactly my thought ;) [04:26] and that is an OT topic, so if it continues, ##slackware-offtopic be the place for discussion. ;) [04:26] slackware-current since the jan 08 update kills X on logout - intel_drv.so backtrace issues - and it doesn't go back into kdelogin [04:27] The-Croupier : "that sucks" was about X dying on logout - but I can see how it might go to the current conversation :) [04:27] lol [04:28] haha [04:28] lol [04:28] Action: adaptr resists commenting on sucking at this point [04:29] How come my friend can run an executable for windows by ./filetorun.exe, and I can't? Am I missing something? I did do chmod +x filetorun.exe :-\ [04:30] jescis: running wine or windows in a vm? [04:30] alisonken1noc, I have wine [04:31] did you try "wine ./filetorun.exe" ? [04:31] no, because it works on his without specifying wine at all >.> [04:32] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [04:32] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [04:32] zecafig (~zecafig@200.152.187.1) joined ##slackware. [04:32] zecafig (~zecafig@200.152.187.1) left irc: Changing host [04:32] zecafig (~zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) joined ##slackware. [04:35] he probably has an extra config that redirects *.exe files to wine [04:36] rubens_ (~root@d5152E213.static.telenet.be) joined ##slackware. [04:36] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!root@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [04:36] rubens_ kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [04:37] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422170.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:37] alisonken1noc, maybe, but highly unlikely since he's a gui man coming from windows [04:37] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [04:38] wine has some gui config routines available to them [04:39] Delahunt (~robert@fd126-019.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [04:42] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [04:42] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [04:48] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:49] aww, man! I used the sd card from my camera for a usb boot disk when I installed Slack, now I cant figure out how to make it how it was. [04:50] That's a tough phrase to google. [04:50] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. 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[07:33] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:33] Kaapa (~Something@bl9-76-205.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [07:33] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [07:33] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [07:34] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Client Quit [07:35] asamoah (~caio@190.244.48.80) joined ##slackware. [07:36] gm152 (~gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:36] Goliath (~goliath@unaffiliated/goliath) joined ##slackware. [07:36] i want to burn a data dvd with xvid files in it, in order to be played by my dvdplayer. Should i choose udf filesystem? or windows-unix? [07:36] Action: Zordrak is updating a laptop to -current \o/ [07:37] Goliath: probably udf [07:37] but you should check the player's specs [07:37] what does nero choose by default and other windows burners? [07:37] udf or joliet? [07:37] Goliath: what's with the trolling in other channels, yet asking the same question? [07:37] joliet's the default it hink [07:38] ananke: linux is generic [07:38] chennel [07:38] channel [07:38] thanks mates for the help ;D [07:39] Goliath (~goliath@unaffiliated/goliath) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:42] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [07:46] Goliath (~goliath@unaffiliated/goliath) joined ##slackware. [07:47] ok found the problem [07:47] how can i convert a mp4 file to xvid? [07:47] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:51] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:53] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:55] sahk0 (~grbzks@62.38.17.29) joined ##slackware. [07:55] sahk0 (~grbzks@62.38.17.29) left irc: Changing host [07:55] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. 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[08:02] oh [08:02] + 3 meters [08:02] and are you sure 8 is MBit not MB/s [08:02] oh yes. 8 Mbit around 1 megabyte/sec [08:03] difficult to say [08:03] specs: slack 13.0 bcm43xx wifi , b43 driveer ( by fwcutter ) install [08:03] sounds normal for a poor signal.. but 3m from router should be better [08:03] depending on interference [08:03] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:03] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.43.251) joined ##slackware. [08:03] i disabled ipv6 and run some test on my internal home network [08:04] Goliath (~goliath@unaffiliated/goliath) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:04] for interference i changed channels. no luck [08:04] router is sitecom wl-431 firmware up to date [08:05] also checked with other routers. got stuck to 8 mbit [08:05] "I diabl4ed iv6" [08:05] what did you think that would do to speed things up [08:05] Axius (~fd@92.85.219.108) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [08:06] nay idea how to stress test my wifi card and check if it is actually set to g mode ? [08:06] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [08:06] cant figure it out. everything willmake sens if the wifi card is set to b mode. [08:06] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:06] awned (~awned@adsl-177-101-158.gsp.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [08:07] disable i4 too, just for good meaure [08:07] any one available to help me add /sbin to my user path so that sudo works properly? [08:07] mhh with disabled ipv6 and ipv4, i guess the speed would be 0 [08:08] oh one more thing: using wicd ver 1.5 from 12.2 slack. the bypacked wicd in 13.0 /extra does not work [08:09] since wicd is python, you should be able to use a newer wicd [08:10] awned: uhmm, export PATH=$PATH:/sbin [08:10] v4nelle (~van@79.103.187.101.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [08:10] mhh thats is strange... brb I found that I have actually installe dboth wicd clients. I need to check this out. [08:10] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [08:10] ananke, then add it to .bashrc? [08:11] mohaa (~nome@92.49.78.155) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [08:11] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [08:11] awned, .bash_profile [08:11] awned: i'd add it to .bash_profile or .profile [08:12] slava_dp, right [08:12] alrighty [08:12] .bashrc is only for non-interactive shells afair, while .bash_profile is the opposite. [08:13] slava_dp, okay thanks. [08:13] slava_dp: nice, didn't know that [08:13] most distros source bashrc in bash_profile so that you can put your commands in either one. but it's not the case with slackware. [08:14] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.34.136) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [08:14] kavik81 (~celsoluiz@brsg-4dbbb2fc.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [08:14] excelent! thank you very much [08:14] now to set up bash's PS1 [08:15] easy to remedy, though. echo "if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then source ~/.bashrc; fi" >> ~/.bash_profile [08:15] awned: man bash, search for INVOCATION, very helpful [08:15] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:15] how do i get access to control X from outside of X? The nvidia driver is broken, so I cant get into X to run xhost + to allow remote access to X.. [08:15] ardya, thank you sir [08:15] or ma'am whichever it maybe [08:15] Zordrak, xauth merge /home/user/.Xauthority [08:16] Hello. Sorry to interrupt. I have a question concerning compiling libraries on a 64 bit Slackware System. Can anyone help me? Pvt. Thanks [08:16] xhost + ??? [08:16] good lord [08:17] ardya, what's wrong with that? :) [08:17] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [08:17] slava_dp: very useful.. but the user has no auth yet as it's still at KDM login [08:18] Zordrak, then.... put "xhost +" to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc" and restart Xorg. [08:18] LOL [08:18] oo nicew [08:19] and run telnetd, wth no firewall! [08:19] hahaha [08:19] whatever :-) [08:20] hmm... still cannot open display [08:20] export DISPLAY=:0.0 ? [08:20] or hostname:0.0 [08:21] fyi the problem is that since a certain version of the nvidia driver, X no longer outputs graphics through the dock to the monitor.. it only works when the monitor is plugged inot the laptop [08:22] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [08:22] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:22] im hoping to work out whats going on from nvidia-settings [08:22] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.13.103) joined ##slackware. [08:22] but i cant get to it without local access to X [08:23] hmm.. i wonder if i could get anywhere with xdmcp [08:23] ooo.. or x11vnc [08:23] ssh -X ? [08:23] not the same.... [08:23] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:23] has the same problem [08:24] xdmcp is more about seperating the server and client components of X [08:24] nvidia-settings can output back to whatever DISPLAY i like.. but it needs access to control the display its looking at [08:24] spook: *nod* [08:24] so you can't run *any* program, or just nvidia-settings? [08:25] he has to lgin first. [08:25] ah, he has to login. right. [08:25] slava_dp: i can run nvidia-settings by passing display back to another box.. but if you do that then it controls the display of the box you pass back to [08:25] if you specify a different display display and control display it would work.. but it cant access the local display to control it [08:25] did you try ssh -Y into the remote box? [08:25] Zordrak: depends how you want it, wether you want access to the same x session displaying on the machine (harder), or a new session for remote connections (easier) [08:26] Zordrak, can you just telinit 3 on the affected box and run startx, so that kdm does not get on your way? [08:26] Zordrak: if you want per-app invoked to appear on the remote machine, then ssh x session forwarding is what you want. [08:26] s/on/in/ [08:26] gaz- (~gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:26] no, ssh forwarding make use of the *local* X instead of the remote one. [08:26] v4nelle (~van@79.103.135.146.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:26] doesn't it? [08:27] i think it might be shagged :\ [08:27] slava_dp: i dont know, i suspect so. [08:27] theres no KDM authority file suggesting that KDM is just hung [08:27] going back to the X log [08:27] Zordrak: what problem are you trying to fix? [08:27] spook, read the backlog :) [08:28] i did, i'm still unclear. [08:28] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [08:28] spook: it comes down to this.. i want to find out why the nvidia driver wont output through the dock adapter.. but will output to laptop screen [08:29] nvidia-settings would shed light on the subject.. but it cant access X to tell me anything about iot [08:29] dock adapter? do they still make laptops that use those? [08:29] ie the adapter in the dock [08:30] so the dock has its own DVI port [08:30] i know what they are, didn't know they still had them for laptops [08:30] how else do you provide a stable workstation for a laptop user.. [08:32] Zordrak: yeah, i think they are a great idea, just havent seen one in ageeeessss. assumed they were obsolete. [08:32] im there [08:32] startx from user account from rl3 [08:32] then x11vnc [08:32] with "-auth ~/.Xauthority" [08:34] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [08:36] SOUL_OF_R00T (l00l@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [08:36] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.64.33.148) left irc: Changing host [08:36] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [08:37] vede (~joshua@wsip-174-79-147-235.tu.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [08:37] Mrs (~sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [08:38] wish nvidia would stop putting default keyboard and mouse ntries in the xorgconfigs [08:39] hehehe [08:39] so how do i get this back to normal? [08:39] i can either have a separate X screen for it (which doesnt seem to work) or i can extend the desktop on to it.. i cant seem to just clone the bastard [08:40] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. [08:40] in the older drivers this wasnt an issue.. when plugged into the dock it outputted through the dock.. when not, it didnt [08:40] escaflown (~elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [08:40] mr-S (~sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:41] mr-S (~sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [08:41] escaflown (~elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [08:42] I've been having a problem with Slackware (maybe xscreensaver), whereby if I leave my machine idle for more than a couple hours, the display will freeze, and the computer will die, requiring me to reboot. I know it isn't power-saving, since xscreensaver has power-saving disabled, as does my motherboard. Has anyone here had this problem before and have some ideas as to how to fix it, or am I on my own? [08:44] vede, anything in the logs? [08:44] Where would I find them? [08:44] /var/log [08:44] Mrs (~sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [08:45] ugh... im SO nearly there. I now have the dock monitor as primary.. but with the laptop monitor still active and providing space to the left of the dock monitor [08:46] i suppose i can disable the laptop one.. but then what happens when I want X on the laptop one ffs? im gonna have to keep two separate Xorg.confs and swap them around [08:48] ok i am back with the wifi issue: installed wicd 1.7.0 and found out by iwconfig: bit rate 1 Mb/s. Question: does this mean the router is set to 1 Mb/s or is the card ony capeable of 1 MB/s ? [08:48] Not that I can see, slava_dp. [08:49] http://pastebin.com/m31694be3 (need help with apache, in the past explain) [08:49] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:49] mr-S, initiate a big file download. the rate will rise. [08:51] will try [08:51] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. 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Still stuck at 8 Mbit [08:58] pseudonymous (~icarus@3e6b23e4.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [08:59] SOUL_OF_R00T (l00l@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Quit: Fui embora [09:03] vede (~joshua@wsip-174-79-147-235.tu.ok.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:07] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Atheism is a non-prophet organization. George Carlin [09:09] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [09:11] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:12] v4nelle (~van@79.103.135.146.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:13] mr-S, you aren't using ath5k, by chance? [09:14] mr-S (~sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [09:15] Xires (~Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [09:16] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. 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[09:23] 1899 was a happenin time man [09:23] yeah, the electric was not so good back then [09:23] bongs didnt need no lectriciles back then [09:23] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:24] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:24] i had to throw out about 10 pounds of meat and produce that went bad, i cooked as much as reasonable [09:24] the raccoons and possums had a smorgasboard last night [09:25] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@64.238.225.16) joined ##slackware. [09:25] even the neighbors dog got some [09:25] FriedBob_ (~Drinne@c-98-233-70-186.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:26] i took advantage of the situation and pulled out all the shelves in the fridge and freezer and wiped it out with bleach & hot water [09:26] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/30/firefox_interprotocol_attack/ [09:27] gnubien, I've been toying with that lately. [09:27] Pig_Pen: what state? [09:27] hmm, does firefox need that built in irc client for that to work [09:27] http://epoch.homelinux.com/porn.html <----the exploit view page src [09:27] Oklahoma south east part of the state [09:28] ouch [09:28] nah, it doesn't Pig_Pen [09:28] hitest (hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left ##slackware. [09:28] My name is wqvrxug, and ep0ch rules my butt-hole. [09:28] [QUIT] wqvrxug has quit (Client exited) [09:28] [JOIN] haihrumuqdd (ceblsh@p2p-FB5BAD3F.hnzinc.com) has joined #Linux [09:28] Channel flood from epoch -- kicking [09:28] My name is haihrumuqdd, and ep0ch rules my butt-hole. [09:28] epoch kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [09:28] i am careful about what URLs i open, and use NoScript so most all websites dont get to run javascript in it [09:28] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) joined ##slackware. [09:28] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [09:29] Just forces someone to do things on IRC via FF. 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[09:36] so, lets say I have something that requires libjpeg63, and something else that requires libjpeg70, how do I link those two things together without having one resolve the symbols in the wrong libjpeg? [09:36] rizitis (~rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [09:37] link 63 to 70 and hope the methods are backward compatible{ [09:37] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-217-25.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [09:37] or install both versions. [09:37] ^ [09:37] hmmm the 'weev' character in that register article [09:37] i know him [09:37] werid [09:37] i thought he retired [09:38] Zordrak, they aren't backward compatable. [09:38] Zordrak, if I link them together, one of the libraries will fail if I use the wrong libjpeg. [09:38] my executable has no jpeg dependancies, just these two libraries. [09:38] diabolix: you could actually have both installed and just link to the proper version [09:39] straterra, I have both installed, but when I link it, the symbols get resolved to only one of them. [09:39] Well..yeah [09:40] You don't want to link both [09:40] slakmagik (~j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [09:41] http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Firefox_XPS_IRC_Attack [09:41] gnubien: yeah. the weev involved is an old friend. he's an asshole [09:41] straterra, I know, but one library needs 63, the other needs 70, and I can't use them in the same executable if I link one against the wrong libjpeg... [09:42] Right.. [09:42] militant: apparently :) [09:42] then link aganst thew RIGHT one [09:42] he used to hang in #2600 dalnet [09:42] since they're two different versions, I'm failing to see a problem. [09:46] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:47] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:49] ardya, if I link against 63, I get a problem from one library, if I link against 70, and get a problem from another. [09:49] fix your code [09:50] its not my code. [09:50] its two commercial libraries that I don't have the source to. [09:51] StonedSlacker (1000@cpe-075-181-028-062.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:51] KB1JWQ (~KB1JWQ@freenode/staff/kb1jwq) left irc: Ping timeout: 604 seconds [09:52] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:52] mel0n (~mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:52] hi [09:53] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [09:53] allend (~allend@CPE-124-180-59-138.lns8.lon.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:55] jabuti (~work@189.88.144.87) joined ##slackware. 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[10:03] oh it had both a login.defs and a login.defs.new file [10:04] sahk0: thanks, i've remembered. it's in l but needs stuff from x. thanks again :) [10:04] agris (~agris@pasts.blondais.lv) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:04] i see thanx [10:05] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [10:08] TClayton (~tony@unaffiliated/tclayton) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [10:10] init[1]|SL (buffer@support.team.at.shellium.org) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [10:10] TClayton (~tony@nc-76-3-97-23.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [10:10] init[1] (buffer@support.team.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [10:10] Nick change: init[1] -> Guest30949 [10:10] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) joined ##slackware. [10:12] http://imgur.com/XzvYO [10:12] oh oops. bad paste [10:12] disregard [10:12] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. 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[10:24] awned (~awned@adsl-177-101-158.gsp.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:25] Hello, [10:25] awned (~awned@adsl-177-101-158.gsp.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [10:25] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Atheism is a non-prophet organization. George Carlin [10:26] when will we get slackware 14 or so ? [10:26] when pat is done with it [10:26] militant: What's pat ? [10:26] our pet [10:27] our slave [10:27] why? [10:27] month ? [10:27] 2010, december ? [10:27] for slackware 14 release ? [10:28] didnt 13 just released? [10:28] i forgot it's release date [10:28] Slackware will be done, when it's done. There is no release date [10:28] *Slackware 14 [10:29] jabuti (~work@189.88.144.87) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201220228] [10:29] can unregistered user join here and chat ? [10:30] if he asks questions like that, no [10:31] sahk0: hello,i like your nick, are you same from linuxquestions.org,there is account sahk0 in LQ [10:31] ? [10:31] actually no, im sahko there [10:31] :) [10:32] sahk0: oh [10:32] sahk0: are you same guy? [10:32] yeah [10:32] fine [10:32] but now im out for coffee. bye [10:32] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:33] what does it mean by slacker? can i be a slacker ? [10:33] how can i be a slackwer ? [10:33] slacker [10:35] Install Slackware [10:35] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-213-95.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [10:35] alienBOB: Hello alien , i use slackware, so am i slacker ? [10:37] can you make a slack cd/dvd? [10:38] hello [10:38] alisonken1home: Do you mean slackware 13.iso ? [10:39] Axius: hi [10:39] well, it would be 1 DVD iso or 6 cd iso's :) [10:39] fonseg (~bnguyen@58.187.161.160) joined ##slackware. [10:40] what tool can i use for power monitoring on slackware/openbox? [10:40] conky is pretty good [10:40] alisonken1home: No, i haven't made a slackware 13 dvd ? can you make slackware 13.iso dvd ? [10:40] fonseg: yes conkey [10:41] aquaman, how did you install slackware? [10:41] I have a repository that goes back to slackware 3.5 and it recreates the DVD ISO's whenever there's a change to that version - including slackware a dn slakcware64 -current [10:41] thrice`, aquaman: does it have a notification when power reaching a critical level? [10:42] dive: I installed from slackware 13.iso , i downloaded it and burned it to dvd and boot from dvd , [10:42] right [10:43] alisonken1home: nice [10:43] alisonken1home: slackware 3.5 is old [10:44] hrm , vlmc looks kind of interesting [10:44] alisonken1home: So you have set up a ftp server ? [10:44] running ftp server ? alisonken1home [10:44] I'm in the process of making it public - just not available at the moment while I do some more work on it [10:44] rsync/ftp/http server [10:45] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:45] 3.5 was the first slackware cd set that I bought [10:45] I've had a subscription for the last 4-5 years [10:46] alisonken1home: What's subscription ? [10:46] mailing list ? [10:46] dvd by mail order [10:47] instead of ordering the cd set/dvd from the slackware store, they have a subscription option as well [10:47] alisonken1home: That's good. [10:47] Fingers crossed! I'm rebooting into -current now [10:47] did you run lilo? [10:47] gl [10:47] indeed. && mkinitrd [10:47] Zordrak:I may have found a regression in xorg and the intel driver [10:47] hopefully the latter before the former ;) [10:48] AlexElliott (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:48] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [10:48] aw MAAAN [10:48] alisonken1home: cost for dvd ? [10:48] must remember to do this ata switch over [10:48] forgot the last time [10:48] mirmillo (axius@friedman.ivoltaire.org) joined ##slackware. [10:48] alisonken1home: If i mail for dvd ,what's the cost in dollar ? [10:49] Ephedrax (zeus@vps.process-evolution.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:49] Ephedrax (zeus@vps.process-evolution.fr) left irc: Client Quit [10:49] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@207.81.93.133) joined ##slackware. [10:49] go to slackware.com store and check it out - shipping is extra [10:49] got past LUKS but didnt mount the LVM [10:49] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-84-63.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:49] alisonken1home: No, if i mail for your subscription .. [10:50] aquaman: I bought the subscription from the slackware store - I don't give subscriptions [10:50] rizitis_ (~rizitis@79.107.135.135) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:51] AlexElliott__ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [10:51] alisonken1home: ok, downloading is good, how do you make slackware 13.iso , can you describe in details ? [10:51] any link ? [10:51] oh shit... perhaps the DM sabes have changed since the kernel upgrade{ [10:51] well, with not since [10:51] s/sabes/names [10:51] Zordrak: are you upgrading from 13.0? [10:52] if so- read the changelog and hints - pat changed to libata which means /dev/hd* changed to /dev/sd* [10:52] aquaman: go to slackware.com and follow the links to get slack and the slackware store [10:53] http://rlworkman.net/howtos/libata-switchover [10:53] ShKoDrAnI (~ShKoDrAnI@80.78.76.19) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [10:53] alisonken1home: Can i make slackware dvd iso from that i installed ? [10:53] alisonken1home: was all sd before remains sd now [10:53] rizitis_ (~rizitis@79.107.126.8) joined ##slackware. [10:53] it was 13.0 to -current [10:53] ShKoDrAnI (~ShKoDrAnI@80.78.76.19) joined ##slackware. [10:53] luksOpen succeeded [10:53] just failed to mount the root logical volume [10:53] and im still not sure why [10:53] alisonken1home: I installed slackware, is it possible to make iso from that? [10:54] from the installed system? [10:54] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-213-95.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:54] aquaman, you already said that you have a 13 dvd [10:55] "No such device" ... but the lvs have been scanned and activated [10:55] dive: I want to know how to make my own iso ? [10:55] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [10:56] aquaman: not really - what I do is rsync with a mirror and make an iso from that [10:56] fonseg (~bnguyen@58.187.161.160) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:57] alisonken1home: What's the complete command to make iso from mirror ? [10:57] hmm [10:57] same initrd with huge kernel boots [10:57] must be something missing from the initrd [10:57] aquaman: read this script and edit before running it [10:57] http://www.slackware.com/~alien/tools/mirror-slackware-current.sh [10:58] i bet its ext4 [10:58] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [10:58] Zordrak: how did you make it ext4 ? [10:58] mkinitrd ?? [10:59] mkinitrd -c -k ?? [10:59] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:00] follow the instructions and read the above linked file - and iso's are not ext4 [11:00] -c -k foo -f ext4 -r bar -C baz -L -l uk -o biz [11:00] slava_dp (~slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Quit: ^D [11:00] Nick change: panzer -> DBAmethyst [11:00] eelriver (eelriver@c-24-130-112-52.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:00] alisonken1home: i know , iso's are not ext4 , and i'm reading that link .sh [11:03] hard working alienBOB [11:04] l700bluetooth (~l700bluet@205.Red-88-26-179.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [11:05] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:06] how many people contribute for slackware like alienBOB ? [11:06] above 50 people ? [11:06] can anyone give some idea ? [11:06] probably a handful. [11:07] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@corp-190-12-31-106-cue.puntonet.ec) joined ##slackware. [11:07] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [11:07] as i heard redhat/fedora has 80 engineers [11:07] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:07] less than 50 directly contribute actively, but lots of people make some reports to help out [11:07] redhat or mandriva [11:07] #include [11:07] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:08] no, there are 8 hundred and they are all enginegroes. work for food %) [11:08] hi folks, i am trying to install pgadmin3 from SBo in S64, i did what faq says for S64, but i get this error, http://pastebin.com/db0ccdc0 [11:08] i have installed several pkgs from SBo ok, now with pgadmin3 i get that error [11:08] Axius (~fd@92.84.28.150) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:09] i see in output wx/ogl/ogl.h No such file or directory [11:09] l700bluetooth (l700bluet@205.Red-88-26-179.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:09] ovnicraft: show me you have wxPython installed? [11:09] yes i get it [11:10] wxPython-2.8.9.2-x86_64-2_SBo [11:10] for reference: i had -r ext4 but id left out -m ext4 and this is because my last kernel was customised and had ext4 built in [11:10] i installed it from tgz what i found in http://slackware.dalfy.org/packages/slackware64-13.0/ [11:10] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:10] kavik81 (~celsoluiz@brsg-4dbbb2fc.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:10] rather than add -m ext4 im customising this kernel instead [11:11] i mean who really needs amateur radio, WiMAX and infiniband compiled? :) [11:11] ovnicraft: well good luck with that. [11:11] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [11:12] locate ogl.h [11:13] BP{k}: Why is it ? #include [11:13] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-58-191.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [11:13] What's this ? [11:14] aquaman: BP{k}'s point that he doesn't really care about the conversation with someone [11:14] aquaman: that I don't care about stupid discussion about $DISTRO has more eveloppers than $OTHER distro. [11:14] BP{k}: ok [11:14] it's not the quantity that counts, it's the quality ;-) [11:15] panzer (~panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) joined ##slackware. [11:15] panzer (~panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:15] dive: But knowing the number may give some idea , how is it going on ? [11:15] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [11:16] panzer (~panzer@69-29-105-1.stat.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [11:16] aquaman: not it doesn't. [11:16] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [11:16] BP{k}: I agree with dive though [11:17] How does the slackware recruit/increase slackware contributor/developers ? [11:18] We do not [11:18] It is an inviation-only process, if you have proven your worth as a Slackware user [11:18] alienBOB: are you aware of any gotchas in -current atm or are we all stable{ just upgrading my desktop to it [11:19] Zordrak: running -current is your own decision [11:19] Zordrak: I am running -current onto my laptop and it runs stable. The only gotcha is really if you have IDE instead of SATA [11:19] aquaman, if you want to contribute something I would suggest going to slackbuilds.org and looking at the build scripts there, and perhaps if you have good software that isn't included then you can contribute that way [11:19] panzer (~panzer@69-29-105-1.stat.centurytel.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:19] im well aware.. just wondering if theres anything specific problems being worked on to watch out for [11:20] panzer (~panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) joined ##slackware. [11:20] anyone else running -current and an intel video chip having issues on logout? [11:20] Zordrak: always, that's why it is -current [11:21] alienBOB: way to be abstract [11:21] Zordrak: it's running fine for me on my server, desktop, and laptop, though I did have a kernel panic when updating a family members desktop to -current. I kept the new packages and reverted the kernel back to 2.6.29.6 until I can figure it out. [11:21] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:21] mrselfpwn: kta [11:21] BP{k}: nod.. was well aware.. but doesnt affect me [11:21] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:22] dive: i will try to make a slackbuilds after this week [11:22] aquaman: slackbuild :) [11:23] oh crap i'm guest again :-/ [11:23] ye,slackbuild [11:23] biynayahu (~biynayahu@d207-216-201-18.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [11:24] awned (~awned@adsl-177-101-158.gsp.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:24] Hello everyone [11:24] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:24] yo [11:24] hello [11:25] Zordrak: I meant to say, -current is development, if you want to install it on a production system you are on your own - unless you know what you are doing of course [11:26] I was wondering if there is a site for information on the Pros and Cons of Dropline Gnome.... I've always really liked Gnome. Although, I have to admit I trust Patrick's judgement (He's been doing this for a long time) [11:26] But I run -current all the time on my desktop & laptops and have no issues [11:26] BP{k}, why good luck, is better get installed wxpython from SBo? [11:26] -current makes my laptop running slightly better than 13.0 :) [11:26] biynayahu: not so much gnome is bad, but pat's notes in the changelog when he dropped gnome says it all [11:26] anyone here dealt with virtio drivers? [11:26] biynayahu, dropline used to change some of the core packages [11:27] the new kernel is reason enough to me to run -current - lots of scheduler improvements to .32. also, kde 4.2 sucked ;) [11:27] biynayahu, I have heard that gsb is better, but I have never used it [11:27] biynayahu: you may benefit ftom using xfce instead [11:27] Thank you I'll search for that. Also, I was wondering if anyone knows if there is a comparison of Dropline Gnome vs Slackbuild Gnome [11:27] ovnicraft: well mostly because I don't feel like debugging a vague package you got from a site god knows where or who made it. [11:27] Nick change: Guest30949 -> init[1] [11:27] alienBOB: I appreciate the warning, but am well aware of the necessaries and have had 'current in production before and (for as far as anyone can ever truly say it) i do know what Im doing. The orgin of my question was simply that "most of the time" -current is stable.. but there are times when particular big issues are known being worked on that might make -current particularly unstable [11:27] init[1] (buffer@support.team.at.shellium.org) left irc: Changing host [11:27] init[1] (buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [11:28] awned (~awned@adsl-177-101-158.gsp.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [11:28] macavity (~macavity@212088073002.static.sonofon.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:28] thrice`: i liked kde4.2 so im hoping to be pleasantly surprised by 4.3 since so many people are making out as if it were porno [11:29] TClayton: As silly as it is I hate that even with compiz the auto-hide of bars doesn't shutter in XCE. [11:29] *XFCE [11:29] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:29] Though, I have used it and like it a lot. [11:29] Zordrak: 4.3 is a lot better [11:29] biynayahu: if you're after gnome for slack i suggest you take a closer look at gnomeslackbuild. not sure if there are any comparisons but from my expereince gsb is more slackware friendly :) [11:29] Zordrak: kde 4.4 is nice [11:29] Zordrak: all my annoyances with 4.2 went away [11:29] macavity: gtk [11:30] Scuzz: any biggies? [11:30] Scuzz: nicely irrelevant since 4.4 isnt in -current yet :) [11:30] well, I'm going to have to revert back to 13.0 and see if the issue with my intel xorg driver is still there or my hardware is starting to get flakey [11:30] alienBOB: How can one be proven as slackware user ? [11:30] alienbob has 4.3.95 packages i tired out [11:30] aquaman: step one: stfu, step two: rtfm [11:30] kde 4.2 is good to me [11:30] seemd stable [11:31] Scuzz: cool [11:31] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:31] aquaman: a proven slackware user is one who not only runs slackware but can help others with problems, and not only slackware related problems [11:31] aquaman: how can you proove you are male / female from other end of the world ? [11:31] come on damn you, compile already [11:32] init[1]: I don't think you can [11:32] Action: Zordrak closes his eyes and veinly wishes for adobe to pull their finger out and introduce vdpau support for flash [11:33] I'm going to work... Is it okay if I idle in here? [11:33] Zordrak: if you really had a wish, thats what it'd be? [11:33] biynayahu: as long as you dont use away messages or nicks [11:33] i have gforce 8800gts and it doesnt support vdpau [11:33] i had the cheap g80 chipset on it [11:33] biynayahu: turn off any auto aways, [11:33] spook: itd be *one* of them... but obv not what id pick if i only had one [11:34] Nope, It will simply seem as if I'm not paying attention. [11:34] im on an 8400(new) which means i have featureset B :D [11:34] Zordrak: i'd wish adobe and all adobe created things would DIAF [11:34] Okay, have a great day everyone.... I have more questions but my crappy job becons [11:34] alisonken1home: i had so many issues with the intel video chips it the desktops i had, i sold them [11:34] spook: wouldnt that wish just be for everyonu to have already standardised on html5+ogg? [11:35] alienBOB: How does the invitation process go on ? [11:35] Zordrak: i believe that would have been a side effect yes [11:35] Darkstep (Light@unaffiliated/darkstep) joined ##slackware. [11:35] aquaman: dont poke the bear [11:35] stpt [11:35] Zordrak: lol.. i bet that will happen on the free software front before Adobe does anything [11:35] TClayton: until the last batch of xorg updates, it was running fine. problem is this is a laptop :) [11:36] it really is the sticking point for me..theres only two things that lag the crap out of my box. One is hard I/O (especially since luks is in there), second is HQ flash [11:36] eZz (~ez@195.114.7.5) joined ##slackware. [11:37] urbank (~urban@c-94-255-165-174.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:37] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [11:37] alisonken1home: have you tried the intel drivers from extra [11:38] damn... forgot to time this compile [11:38] slackware-13.0-source-d6.iso is this the latest iso ? [11:38] TClayton: not yet - just started working through this one [11:38] Darkstep: thats the latest Disc 6 iso [11:38] Darkstep: install cd's 1-3 are install, and 4-6 are source packages [11:39] or 1 dvd [11:39] I suppose this is the full dvd then slackware-13.0-install-dvd.iso [11:39] is there any offtopic channel for slackware ? [11:39] Darkstep: correct - 6 cd's or 1 dvd [11:39] ##slack-offtopic [11:39] aquaman: ##slackware-offtopic [11:39] er [11:39] thanks alisonken1home [11:39] hm [11:39] ##slackofftopic or ##slackware-offtopic [11:39] w/e [11:39] np [11:40] is it just me or is 32.x huojly bigger than 29.x{ [11:40] this is taking forever [11:41] aquaman (greenlant@unaffiliated/alinux) left ##slackware. [11:42] aquaman (~greenlant@unaffiliated/alinux) joined ##slackware. [11:43] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:44] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) joined ##slackware. [11:45] Nick change: aquaman -> benten [11:45] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.201.251) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:47] since "this" is obvious? [11:47] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [11:47] thrice`: compiling a kernel, duh [11:49] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [11:50] any alien here ? [11:50] benten (~greenlant@unaffiliated/alinux) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:50] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) joined ##slackware. [11:50] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:51] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:52] think the fact im compiling *on* a luks fs micght have a little to do with holding it up more than norma [11:52] Dominian (dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) left irc: Quit: reloading irssi [11:53] Woo.. we have liftoff (nvidia driver '> kdm) [11:54] pleeeeaaase log in without dying... [11:54] hehehe [11:54] WOO! Im in. [11:54] rizitis_ (rizitis@79.107.126.8) left ##slackware. [11:54] there are always those on irc who feel the need to let you know everything they are doing, without anyone asking ;) [11:54] eww wheredall that silver come from{ :) [11:54] Dominian (dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) joined ##slackware. [11:55] :> [11:55] where have all the cowboys gone, ahhhhhhh [11:55] thrice`: ive been discussing this process for some time.. just keeping the info flowing.. esp since all anyone else around here is doing is bitching ;) [11:55] thrice`: you obviously havent been in ##slackware-offtopic [11:55] jeev: they are in the stables... doing unmentionable things with their horses ;-) [11:56] Dominian (dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) left irc: Client Quit [11:57] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [11:57] anyone know how to revert the color of the task bar? its hurting my eyes... am digging through systemsettings [11:57] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:58] Zordrak, it's probably a theme in appearance? [11:59] think i have it [11:59] its in a diffirint section to the windowing themes caled "Desktop Theme Details" [12:00] k [12:01] Dominian (dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) joined ##slackware. [12:01] macavity, maybe that's what you do [12:01] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:02] not in america, the cowboys here ride corvettes. [12:02] TClayton: the upgrade from the 2.8.0 to 2.8.1 failed - time to backtrack [12:03] ovnicraft: ping [12:03] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) joined ##slackware. [12:03] dive: lol.. seems desktop theme details is where you change a theme/s setup... but you cant set the theme from there.. so ive still yet to find it :) [12:04] Chameleon (Chameleon@CPE0016179aa1df-CM00122540797c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [12:05] BP{k}, i unstall wxPython and WxGTK, and get SBo wxPython, is compiling [12:05] ovnicraft: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/q7c7Ed19.html <-- proof that everything from SBo works.. [12:05] i read at SBo site that SBo for wxPython gets wxGTK [12:05] toolz (~toolz@86.124.208.44) joined ##slackware. [12:05] hello all [12:06] correct. [12:06] Hi guys, I am back to using slackware since long time.. got few questions [12:06] how do I install packages and how do I add more IPs on one interface? [12:06] to load at startup [12:06] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:06] not much has changed as far as packages [12:06] I forgot completly [12:06] toolz: 1) installpkg 2) edit /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [12:06] darkwurm (~atyrelyou@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [12:06] as far as IP's, that's standard, not just slackware [12:07] BP{k}, where can I find packages? [12:07] Zordrak, right click desktop [12:07] desktop settings - desktop theme [12:07] dive: i JUST found it.. as you said it [12:07] toolz: http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/ ; http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/ and buildscripts for a load of packages can be found @ http://www.slackbuilds.org [12:07] thanks though [12:08] awesome [12:08] BP{k}, now wxpython was built and installed ok, pgadmin is compiling waiting no errors :) [12:08] i like the oxygen colour scheme [12:08] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:08] ovnicraft: of course it is. ;-) [12:09] Ok - looks like xf86-video-intel-2.8.x drivers have a regression since -2.7.1 works [12:09] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) joined ##slackware. [12:10] BP{k}, is there any package with screen? [12:10] with proftpd? [12:10] are you sure you've used slackware before? [12:10] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:10] browse a mirror for packages included with slackware before asking :) [12:11] years back yeah :) [12:11] toolz: lol. [12:11] darkwurm (~atyrelyou@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:12] OK - at least I don't have to downgrade from -current [12:12] I remember using slackware.it for packages [12:12] darkwurm (~atyrelyou@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [12:12] but seems it isnt available anymore [12:12] I prefer slackbuilds.org [12:12] toolz: sbopkg.org [12:13] sbopkg.org is a slackware ncurses front-end to slackbuilds.org [12:13] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:13] commandline too [12:13] alisonken1home: s/.org// [12:13] darkwurm (~atyrelyou@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:14] Zordrak: duh [12:14] still working off long weekend short sleep (kid's birthday at disneyland [12:14] ) [12:14] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:14] ow [12:14] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:15] if I want to run proftpd standalone without inetd what should I do, I mean I modified proftpd.conf [12:15] but how do I run it as standalone? [12:15] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) joined ##slackware. [12:16] toolz: /etc/rc.d/rc.local [12:16] make sure the config is set for standalone and modify what spook said [12:16] to add more IPs on my machine I should create more interfaces? eth2 eth3 eth4.. etc? or? [12:16] k [12:17] toolz: it would be eth0:0, eth0.1, eth0.2, etc unless you actually have multiple nics in the machine [12:17] toolz: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [12:17] toolz: create virtual interfaces, eth0:1 eth0:2 etc [12:17] replace the examples of eth1, eth2 with eth0:1, eth0:2 [12:17] Help, everytime I startx my display is set to 1440x900 and when I goto display settings and change it to lower setting but everytime i startx it goes back to 1440x900 however i then go to click on display and it automatically readjusts to lower setting? What .conf file do I have to adjust? [12:18] mikl0: /etc/X11/xorg.conf [12:18] spook, thanks [12:18] spook, /etc/X11/xorg.conf-vesa ? is all i have [12:19] k thanks [12:19] spook, should i just run xf86config ? [12:19] mikl0: it wont exist, you need to create one and set your resolution, its currently autodetecting. [12:20] spook, thanks for clarification and your help [12:20] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:20] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-51-63.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:21] Woo VDPAU works [12:21] IPADDR[0:0] 0:1 and so on? [12:21] will be ok? [12:21] mel0n (~mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:21] eth0:0 [12:22] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) joined ##slackware. [12:22] alisonken1home: any luck [12:22] it isnt specified eth0 eth1 in rc.inet1.conf its just 0 and 1 [12:22] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [12:22] IPADDR[0]= IPADDR[1]= [12:22] toolz: no, thats completely wrong. [12:22] thats the array number [12:23] not the interface name [12:23] the interface name is not specified [12:23] where should I specify it? [12:23] IFNAME[$IDX]="eth0:0" [12:23] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. [12:24] awned (~awned@adsl-177-101-158.gsp.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:24] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:24] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:24] and I should replace X for all new interface and add IPADDR[$IDX] ? [12:24] awned (~awned@adsl-177-101-158.gsp.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [12:24] interfaces [12:24] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [12:24] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:25] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) left irc: Client Quit [12:27] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:28] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:28] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:30] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:30] is mplayer compiled with vdpau support or do i need to recompile? [12:31] check the buildscript for it, and possibly the options in configure, though you will probably have to wade your way through it [12:31] eah.. looking at the build now [12:31] iv (~iv@jumpbox.nsn.uu3.net) joined ##slackware. [12:31] spook, thanks works great now. i just added a screen section with 32bit and 1280x1024 its all i wanted :) [12:31] mikl0: thats all you need. modern xorg is a beautiful thing. [12:31] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [12:32] BP{k}, pgadmin3 installed ok, thx [12:32] iv (~iv@jumpbox.nsn.uu3.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:33] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:33] where can i find a guide for installing slackware from a dvd ? [12:33] Chameleon (Chameleon@CPE0016179aa1df-CM00122540797c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:33] right here: 1) boot, 2) read [12:33] all i find in the slack book is installing from CDs and floppies [12:34] Darkstep: the only difference is you don't have to swap cd's [12:34] otherwise the install is the same [12:34] i see [12:34] and i suppose i wont be needing the floppy also ? [12:35] i want to update my java to the latest version do i need to use a slackbuild ? [12:35] you should, yes [12:36] Darkstep: cd's/dvd are bootable unless your computer doesn't boot from cd/dvd [12:36] best practice is to download the directory (jre?), put new source in, update the slackbuild, and make a new package for use with upgradepkg [12:36] alisonken1home thank you again :) [12:36] Darkstep: boot the dvd. its all self explainatory [12:37] thrice`, let me attempt to restate your instructions... [12:38] is this correct? [12:38] http://pastebin.com/m15bf3c5f [12:38] mikl0: question: i want to upgrade x from y to z, what should i use? answer: use a slackbuild [12:38] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:38] spook, yes I see what you mean :) [12:38] I'm installing under a virtual machine [12:39] Ok I really do want to do it that way... [12:39] hmm.. apart from feeling a bit more snappy and having slightly cleaner graphics.. i dont really see any difference between 4.2 and 4.3 [12:39] what's the chances of getting decent 3d acceleration out of my ati radeon? i haven't fooled with all the different drivers etc yet, but i'd love to run my playstation emulator on my slack box [12:40] militant: poor [12:40] is this correct spook? http://pastebin.com/m15bf3c5f [12:40] mikl0, as in; grab this directory: http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-13.0/source/l/jre/ [12:41] mikl0, place new source instead of jre-6u16-linux-i586.bin, change the jre.SlackBuild for new version, and run the slackbuild [12:41] thrice, i had not looked at that site yet [12:41] Zordrak: you sure? i have no clue but i've been told that with some tweaking and luck, i can get somewhere 'close' to what i get when i boot xp on that box [12:42] anyone who can tell me if that is correct config? [12:42] http://pastebin.com/m15bf3c5f [12:42] macavity: .. [12:43] toolz: repeating yourself is not a good idea. [12:43] i actually wanted jdk with java EE for servlets and tomcat...not trying to be difficult [12:43] spook sorry, its just that noone was answering :p [12:43] i am understanding now what you mean with slackbuild so same script is used just modify for version to slackbuild with correct? [12:44] slackin (~slackin@68.204.234.50) joined ##slackware. [12:45] Zordrak: huh? [12:45] Zordrak: Yo, did you know bacula is now at version, 5.0.0? [12:45] that's a very scary version number [12:46] Darkstep (Light@unaffiliated/darkstep) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:46] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:47] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:47] well? [12:48] whut? [12:48] anyone who can tell me if that is correct config? http://pastebin.com/m15bf3c5f [12:49] :p [12:49] well adaptr wont tell you anyting [12:49] your first ip is .254 ? [12:49] m0n-E (~m0ney@adsl-70-233-149-86.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:49] yeah it is used as a gateway for other servers [12:49] m0n-E (~m0ney@70.233.149.86) joined ##slackware. [12:49] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:49] its eth1, eth0 is from isp [12:50] tewmten (tew@gaskammare.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:50] tewmten (tew@gaskammare.se) joined ##slackware. [12:50] they change version to distinguishing the numbering system between Project and Enterprise versions, that`s all [12:51] GaRLiK (1000@host126-43-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:51] hi All. [12:51] i thought eth0 should be [0] [12:51] SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address [12:51] errm? [12:52] Darkstep (Light@unaffiliated/darkstep) joined ##slackware. [12:52] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.13.103) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:53] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:53] http://pastebin.com/m3d232f64 [12:53] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [12:54] whats that [12:54] what [12:56] LukeL_ (nobody@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [12:56] LukeL_ (nobody@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Changing host [12:56] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) joined ##slackware. [12:57] felicity (~felicity@115.117.216.72) joined ##slackware. [12:57] hey, am trying to get mpd+conky working but i keep getting an error about localhost not being known or found.what am i doing wrong? [12:58] how are you combining mpd and conky? [12:58] is mpd listening on localhost? [12:58] spook: conky has a way of showing mpd stats [12:58] is mpd even running? :) [12:59] am using ncmpcpp right now,and i'm playing music [12:59] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [12:59] yes or no. is mpd listening on localhost. [12:59] jeebs, i make -j8 and it's taking forever, big mistake! damn kvm [13:00] ardya damn business! [13:00] ardya: how do i check that? [13:00] ardya: i bound it to localhost [13:00] lsof -i:6600 (I'm assuming you're using the default port) [13:01] errr [13:01] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-124-252.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [13:01] ardya: yes it is [13:01] is conky running on the same machine [13:01] as mpd [13:02] ardya: when am on the net, it works fine, conky that is.nut when i disconnect, i get that error [13:02] ardya: yes. [13:02] would a problem be sent to pat ath info@ or security@? I would guess info since security should be for security updates [13:02] pat@ [13:02] thanks [13:02] ShKoDrAnI (ShKoDrAnI@80.78.76.19) left ##slackware. [13:02] felicity: double check your conky conf syntax for mpd [13:03] ardya: already have.i spent 3 hours before coming to ask.i've been everywhere, reading and all that [13:03] also see if /etc/hosts has a localhost definition [13:03] ardya: my .conkyrc says mpd_host localhost and mpd_port 6600 [13:03] spook: info about the intel xorg driver having issues in the xorg-video-intel-2.8.x series [13:04] at least on my laptop [13:04] I have configured rc.inet1.conf starting from eth0:0 but /var/log/messages shows me from eth0:2 [13:04] and it keeps showing: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address [13:05] and it keeps showing on all interfacec only one ip though I have configured on file different ips [13:05] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [13:05] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@93.37.157.116) left irc: Changing host [13:05] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [13:05] ardya: you use conky+mpd? [13:06] did you confirm localhost entry in /etc/hosts? [13:07] ardya: i did 127.0.0.1 myhost.localdomain localhost myhost [13:07] is that okay? [13:07] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:08] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:08] try changing conkyrc mpdhost to myhost [13:08] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) joined ##slackware. [13:09] darkwurm (~atyrelyou@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [13:09] ardya: right now it works.but when am offline, it does not [13:10] ardya: give me a minute let me see now [13:10] xizut (1000@189.83.6.106) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [13:10] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-ifiezwmivbtedcdf) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:10] darkwurm (~atyrelyou@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Client Quit [13:11] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-qfrnxqurbuczmorj) joined ##slackware. [13:11] according to the hosts man page, the syntax is ip hostname [optional alias], your entry for localhost has four fields, not three [13:12] ardya: you can specify as many aliases as you like [13:12] i think there is a limit, something like 128, 256 etc. [13:13] ardya: so how should i write it? [13:13] darkwurm (~atyrelyou@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [13:13] no idea how you'd do it, I can tell you how I do it though: 127.0.0.1 localhost [13:13] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@corp-190-12-31-106-cue.puntonet.ec) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:14] spook: pat@ returned error 550 550 5.1.1 -> user unknown [13:14] state 14 [13:14] ardya: you use mpd?did that work with it? [13:14] of course [13:14] alisonken1home: might be patrick [13:15] ardya: and conky?hmmm....i start conky as a normal user, with all my configs in my home directory [13:15] is there anyone who can help me with rc.inet1.conf ? [13:15] http://pastebin.com/m39f16b29 [13:15] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) left irc: Quit: Bye! [13:16] t (tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) left irc: Quit: Quitting [13:17] spook: well, at least patrick@ didn't immediately bounce :) [13:17] ardya: oops..i meant mpd not conky,my bad [13:17] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) joined ##slackware. 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[13:21] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:21] ardya: let me see [13:21] brb [13:22] GaRLiK (1000@host126-43-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:22] ardya: no, it doesn't [13:23] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:23] girls talking slackware [13:23] sweet [13:23] disconnect from internet, telnet localhost 6600 [13:23] ardya: ok.brb [13:23] Azeotrope: that attitude is not helpful. [13:23] awned (~awned@adsl-177-101-158.gsp.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:24] awned (~awned@adsl-177-101-158.gsp.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [13:24] spook: helpful for what? [13:24] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [13:25] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: Client Quit [13:25] GaRLiK (1000@host126-43-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:25] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:25] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [13:26] ardya: it said connected to localhost MPD 0.15.0 [13:26] Azeotrope: "girls talking slackware", "sweet" [13:27] I have a few "girls" I work with that would run rings around a lot of people here on sysadmin stuff [13:27] felicity: then its working, and your problem is related to conky [13:27] spook, can you please tell me what is wrong in the file? I'm waiting since 1 hour for someone [13:27] please [13:27] Azeotrope: if you want them to stick around, shut up and treat them like people, not girls [13:28] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:28] spook: wilco [13:28] sh0ne (~sh0ne@93.86.16.29) joined ##slackware. [13:28] ardya: could be yes.okay, let me try again,and i'll come ask if i get stucj maybe? [13:29] *stuck [13:29] sure [13:29] ok then. [13:29] felicity (~felicity@115.117.216.72) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:29] hi guys! just thought I'd let you know that 1227.com is definitely worth a visit :) [13:29] freack (~freack@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [13:30] nothing like some random spam [13:30] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.223.57.76) left irc: Client Quit [13:30] damn it [13:30] freack (~freack@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Client Quit [13:30] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:30] how the f do i stop it? [13:31] and how do i kill the guy? [13:31] ananke, able to give me a hand please? can you check http://pastebin.com/m39f16b29 and tell me whats wrong with it? [13:31] freack (~freack@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [13:31] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [13:32] you have 30 virtual network interfaces? [13:32] yea I want to add them but I cant [13:32] ananke: is that harmful? that link [13:32] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:32] here is /var/log/messages [13:32] http://pastebin.com/m5d50b738 [13:32] Azeotrope: i would not trust it [13:33] it doesn't work [13:33] Pig_Pen: i clicked on it... [13:33] damn [13:33] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/30/firefox_interprotocol_attack/ [13:33] BP{k}, still here? [13:33] toolz: is there an error message anywhere? [13:34] yeah [13:34] Azeotrope: quit opening URLs from unknown driveby spammers! [13:34] Chameleon (Chameleon@CPE0016179aa1df-CM00122540797c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [13:34] SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address [13:34] hey can grub be used for slackware ? [13:34] Pig_Pen: It sais that i'm gonna flood too! [13:34] look at /var/log/messages it is trying to add the same IP, though I have configured rc.inet1.conf as I've shown [13:34] Coolmax (~mateusz@ip-94-42-38-217.multimo.pl) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:35] Chameleon: look in /extra on the install disk [13:36] alisonken1home, thank you i don tlike lilo it brakes [13:37] Pig_Pen: my browser did some nasty things. moved erraticaly on the screen [13:37] minimez [13:37] minimized [13:38] kill it! [13:39] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:39] done it [13:39] gosh is it that hard to check 2 links and tell me whats wrong in that? :( [13:39] any chance to be infected with somthing? [13:40] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) joined ##slackware. [13:40] Chameleon (Chameleon@CPE0016179aa1df-CM00122540797c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:40] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) left irc: Client Quit [13:41] i have no idea, i would suggest you clear your browser cache, and check /tmp for any strangers that dont normally belong in there [13:42] wilco. thanks [13:43] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) joined ##slackware. [13:45] toolz: you have to set MAXNICS to a larger value in rc.inet1 [13:46] It defaults to 6, which means most of your interfaces won't get configured [13:49] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [13:50] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.13.143.59) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [13:50] suid0 (suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [13:51] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:53] got it, I solved it [13:53] thanks [13:53] brb [13:53] toolz (~toolz@86.124.208.44) left irc: [13:53] Help, xorg.conf setting the repeat rate for my keyboard can't get it to work i do not have any parse errors and have created the section InputDevice yet in xfce system settings none of my changes are saved after i quit an x session... [13:53] freack (~freack@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:54] freack (~freack@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [13:54] alkos333 (~alkos333@173.7.136.228) joined ##slackware. [13:54] zecafig (~zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) left irc: Quit: POF! [13:54] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.207) joined ##slackware. [13:54] hello everyone :) [14:00] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. 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It's snowing here. :) [14:13] retsudo (~retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:13] It's raining here [14:14] every day raining in SP, about 34/35 days [14:14] retsudo (~retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) joined ##slackware. [14:15] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.52.60.static.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:15] does it stay mainly in the pain? [14:15] plain [14:16] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.52.60.static.user.ono.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:16] ^kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC30FB5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:16] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.52.60.static.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:17] freack (~freack@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:17] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@64.238.225.16) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [14:18] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@64.238.225.35) joined ##slackware. [14:18] ? 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[14:26] dmesg [14:26] i mean after that [14:26] /var/log/messages [14:26] ah [14:26] :D thank you kind sir [14:27] indeed, enjoy [14:27] NTU (~neo1993@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:27] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.52.60.static.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:29] other_rafa (rafa@shellium/member/rafa) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:29] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) joined ##slackware. [14:29] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:30] NTU (~neo1993@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:30] one last question, where is the dbus daemon? [14:30] i don't see it in /etc/rc.d [14:30] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:30] vi /var/log/packages/dbus-1.2.14-x86_64-1 [14:30] or whatever you got in there [14:32] errm actually dbus is started by hal [14:32] oh thats why [14:32] thank you sahk0 [14:32] damn i was wrong [14:32] its /etc/rc.d/rc.messagebus [14:33] call me a noob but how do i exit vim without writing? :q isnt working [14:33] :q! [14:34] :D works thanks again [14:34] tuxdev (~tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [14:34] or ZZ [14:36] hmm weird. i restart hald and i dont get the 500 missing library list [14:37] must've been some other thing it was loading on start up [14:37] use 'less' if you only want to read file [14:37] or cat, if you dont mind flooding your console [14:37] cat | less :P [14:37] or more file [14:37] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:38] or ed [14:38] cat | less :P <-- useless use of of cat :) [14:41] i cant find the missing libs that some daemon wants, any ideas? [14:42] install them? [14:42] but i cant find the list [14:42] im trying to find how to regenerate that list without rebooting [14:42] list? [14:42] _theradar (yamabushi@detached.ircii.de) joined ##slackware. [14:42] ldd /path/to/program [14:43] NTU: perhaps trying a bit more coherent question will get you better answers. [14:43] ok when i start slack, it loads all this stuff at the end, and it said it need libfileconfig and i installed that. [14:43] ldd /path/to/program [14:43] 2nd time [14:44] :o is it possible for make -j8 to take 50 minutes when -j4 takes 15? 0_o [14:44] ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh woops [14:44] i had launched it with -smp 1 hahahahahah [14:44] i dont know the program the list was spitting out of though [14:45] ... [14:45] ok reboot it is. [14:45] akym (~tux@92.82.92.36) joined ##slackware. [14:45] diabolix (jsoyke@206.210.81.55) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). 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[15:10] when creating new partitions using fdisk the slackbook suggests that first cylinder of the swap partition should be 124 [15:10] but the minimum value is 132 [15:10] what should i enter ? [15:12] clinder? [15:12] cylinder^ [15:12] yes [15:12] when you are making a partition [15:12] fdisk asks about the first and the second cylidner [15:12] Action: NaCl just uses cfdisk [15:12] Action: alienBOB grabs the slackbook [15:13] http://www.slackbook.org/html/book.html#INSTALLATION [15:13] here [15:13] 3.3 partitioning [15:13] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [15:13] using cylinders is a terrible metric [15:14] well im following the slackbook installation guide [15:14] You should take a little more care of the text and the examples Darkstep... [15:14] use cfdisk [15:15] The number 124 is the first available, because the previous step created another partition that ends one cylinder before that [15:16] Darkstep: the moral is "press ENTER to accept the default cylinder number as the start of your new partition" [15:16] M1ck_ (~mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:16] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Quit: brb [15:17] init[1] (buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:18] arkimi (~tux@92.82.92.36) joined ##slackware. [15:19] Darkstep (Light@unaffiliated/darkstep) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:19] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.247.83) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:20] nannes (~nannes@host-78-14-193-134.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [15:20] nannes (~nannes@host-78-14-193-134.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) left irc: Changing host [15:20] nannes (~nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [15:20] How can I start slack in run level by default? [15:20] awned (~awned@adsl-177-101-158.gsp.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:20] RaNdY (randy@shellium/member/randy) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [15:21] Darkstep (Light@unaffiliated/darkstep) joined ##slackware. [15:21] How can I start slack in run level 4 by default? [15:21] awned (~awned@adsl-177-101-158.gsp.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [15:21] back again [15:21] power surge [15:21] arkimi: edit /etc/inittab [15:21] thx [15:21] any answer to my cylinder question [15:21] Yes [15:22] use cfdisk and dont bother with cylinders [15:22] alright ;) [15:24] arkimi (~tux@92.82.92.36) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:24] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:27] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Quit: lalala /leave [15:28] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC30FB5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [15:29] Darkstep (Light@unaffiliated/darkstep) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:33] Was elightenment wm built based on Slackware? [15:34] NTU (~neo1993@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:34] kleanchap: what? [15:34] when i use the 64-bit flash on slack 64, firefox crashes [15:35] freack (~freack@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [15:35] i used the slackbuild alienBOB made [15:35] works here NTU [15:35] well not here but on my moms computer [15:37] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-58-191.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:37] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [15:37] NTU: grep lahf /proc/cpuinfo [15:38] i has it [15:39] lhaf_lm right? [15:39] lahf* [15:39] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:39] NTU: yeah. some older cpu's miss that instruction which flash uses. [15:40] yeah i got it. erm... what do i do? [15:40] NTU: read http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/flash-crashes-firefox-on-x86_64/ [15:41] Ah, you *do* have the lhaf_lm flag? then that article is not going to help [15:41] why? he has the flag [15:41] newbie2010 (~newbie201@41.252.31.76) joined ##slackware. [15:41] test [15:42] Failed [15:42] that is the needed the feedbacak :) [15:42] The the duh [15:42] btw, I didn't have to register my account BOB [15:43] how do i use the 32-bit flash in slack like in archlinux? [15:43] Indeed, I removed that flag from the channel yesterday [15:43] unlike what you've mentioned in our last conversation [15:43] OIC [15:43] that is cool [15:43] win 22 [15:43] catch 22? [15:43] fail 22! [15:43] acidtripper (~gonzalo@32-140-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [15:43] Hi! [15:43] urmom 22 [15:43] ok im goin back to archlinux [15:44] c ya all. (depends on adobe flash) [15:44] NTU (~neo1993@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:45] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-qfrnxqurbuczmorj) left irc: Quit: xMDKx [15:45] Slackware v 13.0 is a headache... I couldn't get linux partition working unless booting manually from the dvd [15:46] acidtripper (~gonzalo@32-140-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Client Quit [15:46] the same machine was runing good with v 12.1 [15:47] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:48] can i paste the lilo.conf contents? [15:48] alicephilippa (alice@88.128.80.41) joined ##slackware. [15:48] I mean if anyone interested to help! [15:48] cava [15:49] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:49] newbie2010, paste it here: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com [15:49] felicity (~scar@115.117.203.226) joined ##slackware. [15:50] I'm ok dive,,, got to learn everything the hard way :) [15:50] np [15:50] ardya: hey, something strange just happened.if my eth0 has an ip add, conky+mpd works fine...else, it doesnt [15:50] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:50] ardya: even if am offline, as long as eth0 has an ip...hmmm [15:51] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:52] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [15:53] mohaa (~nome@89.16.15.198) joined ##slackware. [15:55] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-63-150.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [15:56] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@corp-190-12-31-106-cue.puntonet.ec) joined ##slackware. [15:59] felicity (~scar@115.117.203.226) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:59] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:59] ALVAN (~galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:00] doomey1 (~doomey@188.24.77.78) joined ##slackware. [16:00] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:00] doomey (~doomey@188.24.77.78) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:01] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [16:03] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:03] urbank (~urban@c-94-255-165-174.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [16:12] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422170.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [16:13] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422170.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:13] ok, i'm beginning to hate new york [16:13] only now ? [16:14] adaptr: the tax forms are murder [16:14] the rest of the life here is ok, i guess [16:14] move to spain [16:16] I hated NY even as a tourist... [16:17] newbie2010: i don't speak spanish...spain is out of question [16:17] belize, maybe [16:17] People will give you bad directions just to screw with you, impolite people, they don't smile, everyone acts the same... It's actually a really depressing city. That's why Boston is better. At least it's got real people.. [16:17] spain, no [16:17] nyRednek: you can try dubai then [16:17] newbie2010: the star on my neck says "no" [16:18] Star on your neck? [16:18] gartt: sounds like manhattan-bronx [16:18] nyRednek, you'll have to adopt with taxes system and start liking it then. [16:19] newbie2010: or go back to arkansas [16:19] nyRednek: by time maybe you'll have to go back to prepaid windows version too [16:19] newbie2010: windows? no [16:20] newbie2010: haven't used windows seriously in 10 years [16:20] you're getting used to pay and sooner or later it's gonna be a habit [16:21] hey guys... I met a "bug" in libusb1.SlackBuild(took from SBo) [16:21] metrofox: which "bug" [16:21] `Dante` (~dante@72.94.197.230) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:22] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!root@* expired. [16:22] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!root@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [16:22] nyRednek: It searches "usr/man" dir which doesn't exist in libusb archive [16:22] metrofox: ah... [16:22] metrofox: that might be an issue...take it to #slackbuilds [16:23] ah, thank you nyRednek :) [16:23] metrofox, what do you mean, searches? [16:23] Action: nyRednek contemplates going back to his old nick [16:23] slakmagik (~j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [16:23] thrice`: probably to gzip man pages [16:24] m0n-E (~m0ney@70.233.149.86) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:24] makepkg should warn you if there are non gzipped man pages upon package creation though [16:25] `Dante` (~timo@72.94.197.230) joined ##slackware. [16:25] thrice`: it tries to go into $PKG/usr/man which doesn't exist [16:26] newbie2010: i've been using slack since 1996, and linux exclusively since 2001, i think i've kicked the microshaft habit [16:26] Darkstep (Light@unaffiliated/darkstep) joined ##slackware. [16:27] nyRednek: I'm really happy for anyone have done the same, and I guess it's my turn too [16:27] but after learning windows 7 too ha [16:28] metrofox, are you running as root ? (su -) ? [16:28] newbie2010: i used vista once... [16:28] to download a new iso for that laptop [16:29] how big should the swap partition be ? [16:29] how much ram do you have? [16:29] Darkstep: double your physical memory if you plan on using acpi hibernate [16:29] 1gb [16:29] i see [16:29] thank you [16:29] how much harddrive space? I'd say 1.5-2G to be safe [16:29] no double, just a bit more [16:30] say 3gb ? [16:30] sahk0: true...i'm just of the habit of going double, back in the days when we were using 486 machines with 16mb of ram [16:30] guys!!! from what I've read they've always recommended the same physical memory size! [16:30] eZz (~ez@195.114.7.5) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:30] the OS won't be used for anything but testing some assembly [16:30] Guest16419 (~slackd00d@c-24-19-217-196.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:31] slackd00d (~slackd00d@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) joined ##slackware. [16:31] suid0 (suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:31] newbie2010: the same size will fail if something is already using some swap space [16:31] Khratos (~42803571@gateway/web/freenode/x-rykskhsbvubktjdz) left irc: Quit: Page closed [16:31] Chapinha (0@201.53.192.12) joined ##slackware. [16:31] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [16:31] Chapinha kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: IRCing as root is dangerous. Please reference "IRCing as root" via google.com for further guidance. [16:31] RobDob (~rpedrica@dsl-145-120-66.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [16:32] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:33] "anned: IRCing as root is dangerous." dangerous to whom? [16:33] newbie2010: the person irc'ing as root [16:33] To you [16:33] Alan_Hicks (~alan@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [16:33] i don't care [16:33] We do [16:33] nothing on my pc [16:33] this is a learning pc [16:34] You can be infected with trojans that bugger us in turn [16:34] ok, first lesson: don't login and use X as root [16:34] so you're welcome to split it into two piece if you could [16:34] thrice: everyone has been newbie [16:34] We will not. But there are a lot of less likeable people out there [16:34] yourlack of concern over security has no bearing on the rest of us, except where its used a platform for an attack of any kind against us [16:34] Actually, the first lesson is "don't do anything as root unless you have to". [16:34] slackin (~slackin@68.204.234.50) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:34] were not you? [16:35] Once you've learned a lot more, it's safer to have a root console open, but it's stil bad form. [16:35] ardya: there is no lack over security and that is why i'm using a crappy pc to come to chat rooms [16:36] wen I sad "us", I meant the internet, not just irc. [16:36] yes that's why i'm trying and recommending everyone to learn linux indeed [16:36] newbie2010: it's just not good to irc as root, login to X as root, do anything other than change system settings as root [16:36] nyRednek: FYI startx won't even run if not root (from a newbie point of view) [16:37] too much technical detail and knowledge to gain for the sake of plugging into a chatroom [16:37] urso_catatau (~catatau@189.107.110.123) joined ##slackware. [16:37] newbie2010: let's put it this way...there's a newbie distribution by the name of ubuntu...the people who put it together essentially disallowed root login(you can re-enable it, but it's not advised) [16:38] i try explaining that to my brother about his infected winXP PC, i tell him "if you can install software and make system-wide changes without a root password then malacious websites and/or remote exploytes can too" and he just stares at me with that deer in the headlights look on his face [16:38] nyRednek: let me put this way, I'm not the ubuntu guy even if it's the last F***in distro on earth :) [16:39] ... [16:39] erk (~MrEd@about/apple/iPod/BeZerk) joined ##slackware. [16:39] nick4 (~fffeop@188.4.39.238.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:40] foundation (~ea@79.101.183.53) joined ##slackware. [16:40] newbie2010: like it or not, the "root thing" is a channel rule enforced by our bot [16:41] very true, which is why i don't like it. [16:41] that is largely irrelevant. [16:42] slakmagik (~j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:42] nannes (nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left ##slackware. [16:42] with irssi and most ircii-based clients, you can log in as a non-root user, say 'export IRCUSER=root', then get on IRC and you'll show up as root even though you're not... [16:43] mmmmm root [16:43] eh, or you can log in as root, say 'export IRCUSER=bob' and IRC as root without the bot knowing about it... still a terrible idea though. [16:44] nick4 (~fffeop@188.4.39.238.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:44] Urchlay: That's because IRCUSER != UNIX account even when the names are the same. [16:44] I hate how the other distros don't give ya root automatically.... [16:44] heh, Slackware installation sure is simpler than Gentoo! [16:44] Darkstep: I thought Gentoo would be the next logical step after Slackin'.... I was wrong [16:44] Urchlay: Sorry, think I misunderstood you. Disregard my comment. :-) [16:45] MrZhi, It seems so. [16:45] Alan_Hicks: I have a suggestion for you [16:45] straterra: I'm not certain I want to hear any of your "suggestions". [16:45] Sure ya do [16:46] I know I'm gonna regret this... what is it? [16:46] Delete every occurance of the word 'cylinder' in the Slack Book..and if its ever written in it again, smack yourself in the testicles with a hammer :P [16:46] cylinder? [16:46] Yeah, cylinder [16:46] In regards to partitioning [16:47] I just made my partitions trough fdisk and cylinders. [16:47] Why? [16:47] Because using cylinders as any kind of metric for size is a terrible idea [16:47] cfdisk seems more difficult [16:47] cylinders is good for a single spinning disk..thats about it [16:47] That's what fdisk shows, that's what goes in. [16:48] so..why not use cfdisk? [16:48] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:48] I'm a traditionalist. :-) [16:48] bah [16:48] fdisk works. [16:48] Like I said cfdisk seems harder to comprehand [16:48] So..what about solid state or disk arrays? [16:48] straterra: Those ain't gonna be dealt with in the book anyhow. [16:48] Nor should they be [16:49] They are beneith the OS..which is the point [16:49] the kernel and the drive firmware still conspire to trick you into seeing everything in terms of cylinders, even for ssds, don't they? [16:49] Urchlay: No [16:49] hm, really? what's 'fdisk -l' show for a partitioned ssd? [16:50] Prolly the partition list [16:50] virtualized disks fall under this too [16:51] it still uses cylinders [16:51] I mean..its not 1992 any more. You shouldn't have to know anything about a storage devices cylinders..especially since a lot of scenarios don't have cylinders [16:51] Which was the first distro after UNIX came out ? [16:51] yeah, but fdisk's output normally includes "Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes" or whatever, and each partition is displayed as start/end cylinders: /dev/sdc3 1221 30401 234396382+ fd Linux raid autodetect [16:51] Urchlay: even on ssd drivers, just checked [16:51] I'm sure it still shows something..that doesn't mean much really [16:51] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:51] A solid state drive doesn't have any cylinders [16:52] i know [16:52] maybe the storage controller presents false/computed data about what the cylinder should be [16:52] fdisk uses them never the less [16:52] sure, but pretending it has cylinders is how you have to deal with it in fdisk [16:52] There are other tools o.O [16:52] cfdisk also uses cylinders though [16:53] I never use cylinders with cfdisk [16:53] or fdisk, for that matter [16:53] I never use cfdisk, so no opinion there [16:54] the actual partition list in the MBR though, that uses cylinders (at least on PC BIOS style systems. Maybe the macs based on EFI or whatever, don't) [16:54] Hello, everyone. [16:55] as long as we're stuck using PC BIOSes that are backwards compatible with the ones from 1986, we're stuck with the (completely artificial) concept of cylinders :( [16:55] Urchlay: the kernel doesn't USE the BIOS interface for anything except the very very very very first part of booting [16:55] That's why the kernel has device drivers [16:56] a little distraction here , i got a realtek wifi card, after ifconfig wlan0 up , dmesg says "link not ready", which wouldn't worry me ,but iwlist scan gives me "No scan results" , any ideas or pointers to some other channel ? [16:56] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) left irc: Quit: Bye! [16:56] newbie2010 (~newbie201@41.252.31.76) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:56] Razec (1000@187-27-199-73.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:57] straterra: well, fdisk does use cylinders (you can argue that it shouldn't use them, and I'd agree, but as long as it does, Alan_Hicks has to in his tutorial, too) [16:57] And there are alternatives to fdisk.. [16:58] here's an entertaining thought for you: cylinders/heads/sectors have been false for a loooong time (late 1980s at least), due to the fact that drives use zone sectoring (more physical sectors in outer tracks, since they're physically larger) [16:58] you could have been having this discussion in 1989 and it would be relevant [16:58] Indeed [16:59] It's 2010 though [16:59] yeah, it's 2010, and my BIOS setup menu looks the same as the one I had in 1989 [16:59] (I also use the same keyboard I used in 1989, but that's by choice) [16:59] It isn't the same though [17:00] the trouble with backwards compatibility is that it's hard to know when to stop [17:00] No its not :P [17:01] Stop when your target audience isn't primarily composed of people who use it [17:01] gartt (~gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [17:01] stop when you've got a viable replacement... which we maybe do now, EFI or whatever you call the Mac BIOS-replacement? [17:02] gartt (~gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:02] EFI has been around for a while..and Intel computers of the last few years run EFI [17:02] EFI/GPT [17:02] work leaving time [17:02] intel, as in x86 in general, or intel as in motherboards manufactured by intel, inc? [17:02] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-210.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:03] I was wondering if anyone knows why ZDOOM from slackbuilds.org won't compile for me. I can give you the compile error if you want. I've googled it, but couldn't find any relevant info. I can start the compilation and give the error if someone is willing (able) to give me some advice. [17:04] sure, use a pastebin site and show us the entire output of your attempt to run the slackbuild [17:04] Okay, give me a second [17:04] rizitis (~rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [17:06] fadein (~fadein@c-98-202-172-65.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:07] hey guys i want to install virtual box. do i NEED to download all of these? http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=virtualbox&sv=13.0 (apart from acpica) [17:07] evince doesn't render fillable pdf's quite right [17:08] http://pastebin.com/m2c1b0ad5 [17:08] doomey1 (~doomey@188.24.77.78) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:09] mel0n: unless things have changed a lot, you only need acpica, virtualbox-kernel, and virtualbox-ose (the -addons are extras, not required) [17:09] Konsoles buffer didn't go to the very beginning, but it's just the slackbuild extracting the source that got cut off [17:10] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:10] biynayahu: hmm, that looks like a case of gcc being more strict about borderline code than it used to be. Lemme try to build it on my 13.0 box and see if I get the same thing... [17:10] Okay, thank you [17:13] ga_bash (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [17:13] ergh, waiting for fmodapi dep to download [17:17] biynayahu: I've been thinking about playing some Doom II lately anyway... [17:18] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:19] metrofox (metrofox@ppp-124-252.33-151.iol.it) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.0"). [17:20] I use dosbox to play doom [17:21] yeah, eh, I was thinking zdoom used openGL [17:22] like Doomsday does (try doomsday + the high resolution pack, makes Doom/Doom2 look as pretty at at least Quake II) [17:22] I'll check that out [17:23] biynayahu: ok, zdoom compiled just fine for me. Are you on 13.0 or -current? [17:25] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-63-150.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:26] Nick change: ga_bash -> free_fx [17:26] timidity is an optional dep, I didn't install it, lemme try again with timidity [17:28] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:29] n8 o/ [17:29] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:30] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:30] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:31] Megaf (~quassel@unaffiliated/megaf) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:31] nawp, zdoom still compiles just fine [17:32] 40FAAAACT (~gizzmo@c-69-246-131-80.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: going going gone [17:32] XGizzmo_ (~gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [17:34] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [17:34] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) joined ##slackware. [17:35] and zdoom runs fine, but looks no better than DOS doom [17:40] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:42] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [17:43] gm152 (~gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:45] where is samba in slackware 13.0? [17:45] how can i change my domain name [17:45] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [17:47] Darkstep: host name? [17:47] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-214-78.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [17:48] err, the thing that is after @ (ex. root@this:~#) [17:48] GaRLiK: /usr/sbin/smbd [17:48] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:48] plus /usr/sbin/nmbd [17:49] Darkstep: i just use netconfig [17:49] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:50] smb.conf cout not be found [17:50] hostname cmd shout do it [17:50] how i can install? [17:50] schould do it [17:50] *should, damn :) [17:50] Scuzz and how do i update it after making some changes ? [17:50] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [17:52] vim /etc/hosts ? 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[18:03] alicephilippa (alice@88.128.80.41) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:03] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:04] hey guys for some reason unzip isnt working... [18:04] unzip 1.zip [18:04] Archive: 1.zip [18:04] End-of-central-directory signature not found. Either this file is not [18:04] Channel flood from mel0n -- kicking [18:04] a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive. In the [18:04] latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on [18:04] the last disk(s) of this archive. [18:04] mel0n kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [18:05] sweet [18:07] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [18:08] lmao2k (~nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: [18:09] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [18:09] lmao [18:09] the output from the 'unzip' error wasnt enough? [18:10] i know that mel0n guy from efnet, he's a packet kiddie [18:10] he's a peson of limited logic [18:11] i cant choose any other resolution than 640x480 and 800x600 [18:11] i have an 19" monitor [18:11] and a good graphics card [18:12] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-210-184.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [18:12] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) left irc: Quit: Bye! [18:14] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.13.117.150) joined ##slackware. [18:14] har (~harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:16] rizitis (~rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) left irc: Quit: http://tinyurl.com/madtux [18:17] lmao2k (~nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:19] person (~ed@92.2.183.131) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:19] triarius (~vinnix@201-93-204-223.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:19] newbie2010 (~newbie201@41.252.37.47) joined ##slackware. [18:20] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.10.117) joined ##slackware. [18:21] AlexElliott_ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:22] AlexElliott (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:24] Urchlay: biynayahu: ok, zdoom compiled just fine for me. Are you on 13.0 or -current? -current [18:25] Urchlay: Should I downgrade GCC? [18:25] retsudo (retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) left ##slackware. [18:27] tuxdev_ (~tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [18:29] newbie2010 (~newbie201@41.252.37.47) got netsplit. [18:29] `Dante` (~timo@72.94.197.230) got netsplit. [18:29] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@corp-190-12-31-106-cue.puntonet.ec) got netsplit. [18:29] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) got netsplit. [18:29] freack (~freack@unaffiliated/freack) got netsplit. [18:29] tuxdev (~tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) got netsplit. [18:29] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.207) got netsplit. [18:29] `Dante` (~dante@72.94.197.230) joined ##slackware. [18:31] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) returned to ##slackware. [18:32] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!0@* expired. [18:32] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [18:32] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) joined ##slackware. [18:33] biynayahu: what version of gcc do you have installed? "gcc --version" [18:33] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!0@*' by jordan.freenode.net [18:33] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [18:34] Urchlay: 4.4.3 [18:34] person (~ed@92.9.32.139) joined ##slackware. [18:34] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.75.38) joined ##slackware. [18:34] I could just removepkg and install the version on my SlackDVD [18:35] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.207) got lost in the net-split. [18:35] tuxdev (~tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) got lost in the net-split. [18:35] freack (~freack@unaffiliated/freack) got lost in the net-split. [18:35] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@corp-190-12-31-106-cue.puntonet.ec) got lost in the net-split. [18:35] newbie2010 (~newbie201@41.252.37.47) got lost in the net-split. [18:35] eh, yeah [18:36] brbrbr (~Basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:36] urso_catatau (~catatau@189.107.110.123) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:36] why did you replace it with 4.4.3 in the first place? replacing your distro's C compiler is something you probably shouldn't be doing, if you don't know enough about C to solve your little compile issues like the one you had... [18:37] if you just want to mess with gcc 4.4.3, you can compile it from source with "./configure --prefix=/usr/local/gcc-4.4.3", then put /usr/local/gcc-4.4.3/bin first in your $PATH when you want to use 4.4.3 (and leave /usr/bin/gcc alone) [18:37] I just followed a tutorial on how to rsync and update the software on my cd, and just chose the -current tree instead of the 13.0 out of ignorance. [18:38] oh [18:38] ah. Well I did ask if you were running -current [18:38] I answered [18:38] it was just late [18:38] yah, you did [18:38] is OK [18:39] I'll just downgrade that app, and try again. Thank you for the help :) [18:39] if I were you, I'd "downgrade" to 13.0 (do you have a really good reason for wanting to run -current?) [18:41] Well, I'm an elitest nerd, and once I become more knowlegable I'll probably want to run it just to say that i am. Though, now I probably shouldn't be, and probably will go back to 13.0 [18:41] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [18:42] why arent you using gento or netbsd then? [18:42] Gentoo doen't work anymore [18:43] gentoo died from a portage complication [18:44] And I just don't understand the difference between Linux and BSD. I read a few sites on it but the stuff they were talking about seemed like made up philosophical differences than anything. So, i've left BSD alone for now. [18:44] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:45] far more than philosophical [18:46] I believe you.... I just didn't understand the real difference, but I blame the sites I was reading on.... They weren't very in depth. But from what I understand Linux is a kernel with programs running on it, and BSD has an actuall software core. [18:47] all OSes are a kernel with programs running on them [18:48] anyway thi isnt the place for this discuscion, sorry [18:48] Okay, no problem. [18:49] I was more curious about your alleged claim to eliteness [18:49] No, I didn't say I was elite. I said elitest. It means I want to be elite. [18:49] Something I'll probably never consider myself [18:50] nothing wrong with running -current, but if you run it, you have to expect little annoyances like this (and hopefully, you get motivated to fix them and send patches to the maintainers) [18:50] It's actually the only problem I've run into so far.... I just know next to nothing about GCC. [18:50] however... I definitely do *not* recommend running a mixture of stable (13.0) and -current packages. [18:51] biynayahu: Slackware's a good place to start with UNIX, I reckon [18:51] biynayahu: and there are some people in here which will not answer basic slackware questions if you run -current. ;) [18:51] LOL linux != unix [18:51] biynayahu: Not too difficult to get working, but you do stuff the standard UNIX way a lot of the time iirc [18:51] Solaris is where you get unix exposure [18:52] ardya: I didn't imply that [18:52] Darkstep (Light@unaffiliated/darkstep) left irc: [18:52] Yeah, I understand that. OSes are designed to run in a cohesive manner and changing something as intregal as your compiler could really mess programs that are looking for a specific one. [18:52] gcc gets more and more strict about what violations of the language spec it'll allow (e.g. your problem with zdoom: "non-static declaration follows static". Older gcc's allow this, and just ignore one declaration or the other, but the C language actually isn't supposed to allow that) [18:52] earp_child (~Dirty@72-4-87-94.gncsin06.customers.broadreach.net) joined ##slackware. [18:53] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:53] Usually, someone else found the patches first. [18:53] me, I wish the gcc team would include a --allow-crappy-code switch to let you compile the old stuff that used to work [18:53] haha [18:53] but it'd be a lot of extra work for them to do that [18:53] It would be like have two compilers in one [18:54] *having [18:54] almost, yah [18:54] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [18:54] you're better off learning how to install 3 or 4 different versions of gcc side by side [18:55] even better, learn enough C that you can fix the crappy code yourself [18:55] foundation (~ea@79.101.183.53) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [18:58] BiynaYahu_ (~biynayahu@d207-216-201-18.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [18:58] Here's a question... Does anyone know if there is a slackbuild out there for xine-lib compiled with wavpack decoding? [18:58] biynayahu (~biynayahu@d207-216-201-18.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:58] SOUL_OF_R00T (l00l@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [18:58] Nick change: BiynaYahu_ -> BiynaYahu [18:59] I fell off of IRC haha [18:59] I must be digitally drunk [19:00] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:00] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [19:02] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:03] most likely, you can install wavpack libraries from SBo, then rebuild xine-lib using Pat's slackbuild from slackware/source (possibly you have to edit it to add --enable-wavpack to the configure line, if it doesn't autodetect it) [19:03] awned (awned@adsl-177-101-158.gsp.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:03] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:04] if you rebuild an official slackware package, you probably want to change BUILD=1 to BUILD=1_blah (replace "blah" with your initials or something), that way you can easily see that you're using a modified package [19:04] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [19:07] dunix (~dguitar@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. [19:10] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) joined ##slackware. [19:13] http://yfrog.com/0f1265067859985g [19:13] Absolutely the most amazing optical illusion I've ever seen. [19:13] Just thought I should share it [19:16] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:18] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:20] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [19:21] Gargantua: Crazy! [19:22] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:24] hi there for all... [19:25] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:29] earp_child (~Dirty@72-4-87-94.gncsin06.customers.broadreach.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:30] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [19:30] g4tt0 (~Romeo~@host237-117-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [19:30] good evening everyone ^^ [19:30] i have a problem with md5pass :( [19:31] ruben23 (~AGENT@122.55.48.243) joined ##slackware. [19:32] hi i ave installed an application into a lslack server, with dual ethernet....11 for wan ip and 1 for local.. now when i access the application using public IP on the webrowser the admin page can display, but when using with local IP page cannot be found....any idea...the slack box have firewall iptables.. [19:33] with pam ??? [19:33] ruben23: sounds more like an apache issue... have u got it listening on both interfaces? [19:34] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [19:34] packeteer:i havent set nay config...how about my firewall..? [19:34] yes, that could be blocking [19:35] packeteer:how would i correct this.. [19:35] ruben23: check your firewall config [19:36] packeteer: what rule should i put in on my iptables..? , its using http and https. [19:37] ruben23: sorry, i don't know your setup so I can't really tell you exactly what to do [19:38] i would suggest liberal reading of the iptables man page + googling [19:38] that said, check the output of iptables -L -n [19:38] I'm rsyncing to -13.0 from -current will upgradepkg ignore all the programs in my new direcory becuase they are older versions? I have my root and /usr on their own partitions. So, if necessary I can format and install using the packages in my /home directory. [19:40] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:40] Urchlay: The wavpack library is part of the standard slackware install now.... I'm surprised that the xine-lib is compiled without it. [19:40] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [19:41] tuxdev_ (~tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:41] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [19:42] It's pretty useless if the main audio player on a primarily KDE distro can't use one of the sound libraries that comes with it. [19:42] But I guess they just didn't want to make it a required dependancy. [19:43] Razec (1000@187-27-199-73.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:43] alicephilippa (~alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:50] asamoah (~caio@190.244.48.80) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:50] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [19:50] brbrbr (~Basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [19:51] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:52] I answered my own question.... I tried upgradepkg ~/Slackware/a/*.txz. upgradepkg is now deleting and "up"grading my software to the older versions/ [19:54] upgradepkg doesn't care about what's newer, only what's different [19:55] GaRLiK (1000@host126-43-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:56] Yeah, I figured it out.... I understand the naming scheme, but it would almost be more accurate to call it replacepkg. haha [19:56] I can make a RAID1 with mdadm and then add it to LVM, or I can just use LVM lvcreate's mirror option... I want reliable mirroring that I can recover from when a disk fails. What is best? [19:56] Though I'm sure most people use it to upgrade. [19:58] I really like slackware's package management. It's simple... like me. haha [20:03] john_dee (~id@95-29-14-226.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [20:04] somebody have passed for one error with no default console and hang a kernel panic [20:05] it's during a boot [20:06] Gargantua (Gargantua@213.188.73.68) left irc: Quit: Say good night to the bad guy. [20:07] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [20:07] ruben23 (~AGENT@122.55.48.243) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:10] ruben23 (~AGENT@122.55.48.243) joined ##slackware. [20:11] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [20:11] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.6) joined ##slackware. [20:12] Having troble killing firefox [20:12] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-5-22.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:12] SOUL_OF_R00T (l00l@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:12] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:12] pkill firefox or kill -15 27101 or kill -15 27493 seems to have no effect. [20:13] -9 seems to have done the trick this time, but tried several times -15 and -9 [20:13] BiynaYahu_ (~biynayahu@d207-216-201-18.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [20:13] Oh well. [20:14] BiynaYahu (~biynayahu@d207-216-201-18.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [20:14] well, not out of the woods yet. [20:14] -9 cannot be cought by the application [20:14] Did not start properly. [20:14] Apparently IRC doesn't like my connection. That's two drops today... [20:14] that is, it is "kernel, please kill this" [20:14] dunno what signal 15 is [20:15] killall firefox ? [20:15] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:15] first time it tried to start with multipule tabs (without asking first), so I killed it and started again. [20:16] v3.6 [20:16] agentc0re: killall ok. tnx [20:16] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:16] will try that next time. [20:16] i think it would need to be firefox-bin instead.. [20:18] agentc0re++ [20:19] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [20:20] binari0 (~dorany@190.80.152.192) joined ##slackware. [20:21] paul424 (~chatzilla@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [20:21] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:22] Hello slackware-wise dudes, still I have problem with starting the slackware current after the update. I am still getting the error : cannot mount the fs : unknown block (3,3) bla bla bla kernel panic. [20:22] also I tried the huge kernel and still nothing. [20:22] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:22] paul424: Are you using software RAID or LVM by any chance? [20:23] No [20:23] did you update your lilo properly for the IDE -> sata change? [20:24] paul424: you didnt read the changelog [20:24] uhh ok [20:24] now all drives are called sd*X [20:24] instead of hd*X [20:25] i hope you have a boot media with a .32 kernel [20:25] That's only applicable if he had SATA drives showing up as hdX. [20:25] paul424: Are you using such SATA drives and were they showing up in IDE mode? [20:26] nope.. my ATA drive shows up as sda now [20:26] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:26] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.10.117) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [20:26] Alan_Hicks, no, libata covers ide discs now [20:26] macavity: Really? I must have misunderstood then. My bad. [20:26] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [20:26] other than failing to run lilo, it's about the only way the huge kernel will panic [20:27] hmm.. can one specify root= from the lilo command line? [20:27] hrp (~hrp_cpg@77.77.0.134) joined ##slackware. [20:27] thrice`: Well, if you're using raw partitions, yeah. If you've got some kind of software abstraction layer, the huge kernel still has to be told about that. [20:27] hmm that my be the case as I use the ATA drives ...btw found the notice.in changelog, very cleverly hiddden [20:27] ctrl-x -> Linux root=/dev/sda1? [20:27] macavity: Yes. [20:27] paul424: Wasn't hidden at all. [20:28] paul424: if you run -current you are *expected* to actually read the ChangeLog for every batch of updates [20:28] ok ok , now have to do something , see you later dudes :P [20:28] paul424 (~chatzilla@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558] [20:28] >_< [20:29] btw, it is in situations like these that lilo really bloody fucking sucks [20:29] why? grub would have failed too [20:29] if you want to have two kernels available, one on either side of the switch, lilo will give you bitchings about either one or the other device name [20:30] brbrbr (~Basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:30] thrice`: negatory, hd(0,0) is still hd(0,0) in grub jargon [20:31] except if he had both an ata and a sata disk [20:31] person (~ed@92.9.32.139) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:31] ooh, hmph [20:31] ding ding :P [20:32] technicality ;) [20:32] btw, i still use lilo because the emacs shortcuts in grub freak me out [20:32] so i just boot off another media and chroot when something farks up [20:34] init[1] (buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. 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[20:42] greetings and salutations [20:44] hmm swtiching the path to root in lilio.conf and reloading with lilo does not help, changing the /etc/fstab either ... the boot line is boot = /dev/hda hmm maybe that [20:44] wotcha andarius :) [20:44] hello andarius [20:45] wotcha BP{k} :) [20:45] salutations hitest [20:45] :) [20:49] ok boot shows where the lilo./conf is , so I suppose it works fine, cause I get the error : no disck could mount root path , kernel panic [20:50] what to do ? [20:52] person (~ed@92.20.12.134) joined ##slackware. [20:52] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) left irc: Quit: Bye! [20:53] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:55] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [20:56] uhh I get the same mesage as this dude, but he had been neither answered : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/kernel-panic-after-update-to-current-785633/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+linuxquestions%2Flatest+%28LQ+-+Latest+Threads%29 [20:57] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [20:58] Chameleon (Chameleon@CPE0016179aa1df-CM00122540797c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [20:58] wescotte (~wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:58] ehh , anybody dudes ? [20:59] this might be a really dumb question but can i use a different Package Management than what slackware uses? [20:59] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:00] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:01] When you are in need , everybody turns his back off ;( [21:02] Chameleon: maybe, I am sure it is possible. however I find it highly unlikely you will get a recomendation or advice on such here [21:02] I am sure you would not get support if you did try it [21:02] yep when you ask for help no one wants to help you but when you dont want the help everyone wants to shove it down your through [21:02] This is free support [21:03] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [21:03] If you don't like it, pay for it or shut the hell up. [21:03] Everyone here is a vulunteer [21:03] i was not talking about in here [21:03] i was talking in genral [21:03] so pls dont flame me [21:03] Well, thats how it is here. [21:04] anyone who uses less with upsteam lesspipe instead of Pat's? [21:04] dont take it personal [21:04] paul424: I missed a lot, what started the problem off ? [21:04] *lesspipe.sh [21:04] ok suppose it is my post ( althought not :P) http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/kernel-panic-after-update-to-current-785633/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+linuxquestions%2Flatest+%28LQ+-+Latest+Threads%29 [21:04] Chameleon: there are a few unofficial ones like slapt-get [21:05] wescotte, you cant use apt? [21:05] i upgraded my jre and it said i can get the jdk in /extra ...i didnt find that on my cds...is it still provided in slack? [21:05] paul424: will you please use tinyurl? [21:05] paul424: what was in the update? [21:05] Chameleon: I've never used it.. I assume it's similar just specific to slackware [21:05] and is this slackware 13 or -current ? [21:06] its current [21:06] paul424: oh, and i actually answered you question: when at lilo prompt, hit ctrl-x, then type Linux root=/dev/sda1 [21:07] wescotte, your talking about slapt-get? how about useing portage or even deb [21:07] paul424: substitute Linux with the label you have in lilo.conf, substitute sda1 with what is applicable.. eg, if it was hda1 then it is sda1, if it was hde7 then it is sde7 [21:08] when i try to modify my lilo.conf as root to change the time limit before default the changes never occur... [21:08] i need help with these two issues [21:08] mikl0: did you run lilo after editing lilo.conf? [21:08] mikl0: ddi you run lilo afer ? [21:08] ah no [21:08] ding ding :P [21:08] next? [21:08] Chameleon: no idea.. I've never used slapt-get. I Just know it exists. [21:09] Chameleon: just be prepared that if you use a third party package manager and it hoses your system *nobody* here will help you out [21:09] im looking for the java dev kit i just updated my jre to _18 from slack13 _16 version ... it said i can get the jdk from /extra but i dont see that on my discs [21:09] mikl0: then just fetch it from your local ftp mirror [21:10] macavity: yeah I foloowd that dude ... but look at the changelogs I have here http://tinyurl.com/42vfg i HAVE the version from 25 january , but on 31 they uipdated the kernel ... like there was a flaw or something [21:10] but can I know do the slackpkg update-all after and cd -rooted mounted my hdd and chrooted ? [21:11] Chameleon: if you're really looking to use another package management system you are really better off using a different distro [21:11] macavity: yeah I do reload with lilo cmd each time [21:12] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-61-114.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:12] hmm is there an fglrx slackbuild anymore? [21:12] i built apache by hand, installed it [21:12] then realized apache was there already [21:12] 0_o [21:12] MrJackson (~MrJackson@host216.ezlinx.net) joined ##slackware. [21:12] macavity, that is intresting [21:12] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:12] wescotte, ya looks like it [21:13] macavity, thanks alot [21:13] jeev: http://packages.slackverse.org/ [21:13] someone here wih problems using skype under current ? [21:13] paul424: search for this: Mon Jan 4 21:43:02 UTC 2010 [21:13] paul424: in the changlog [21:13] paul424: thats when the change happened [21:14] paul424: can you get into your system? [21:14] Chapinha (0@201.53.192.12) joined ##slackware. [21:14] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:14] Chapinha kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: IRCing as root is dangerous. Please reference "IRCing as root" via google.com for further guidance. [21:14] hrm [21:14] huih for a second I thought it was me who was banned , pheeew [21:14] macavity, you think if i used LFS i could use different things from each distro that i like ? [21:15] Chameleon: you have *no* idea how much work it is to set up a system so it will be binary and version compatible with another distro, do you? [21:16] what if their question was "how do i add a user" [21:16] :< [21:16] paul424: heh everytime slackboy does that I think the same thing [21:16] eviljames (~james@96.49.81.107) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [21:16] epoch: if people cant find out that on google i honnestly think slackware is too tough for them [21:16] eviljames (~james@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [21:16] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) joined ##slackware. [21:16] hello [21:17] does anyone know if it's possible to enable the sound ports on the front of my ntecs "Performance One" case? [21:17] yeah, sounds about right [21:17] oops Antec* [21:17] macavity, enlighten me pls [21:17] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [21:17] heh....I did that once first time I ran slackware....before I figured out hwo to use useradd (being the former ubuntard I am) [21:17] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [21:18] alright awesome now the last thing i need to tweak is the keyboard repeat delay and numlock on by default... i worked on xorg.conf and added InputDevice section and no dice...is there something else? [21:19] Chameleon: no.. i am not going to spend seven hours explaining to you how much distros differ in everything from boot scripts to library patches [21:19] heh [21:20] Chameleon: the short version: every feature in a distro depends on some other featur specific to that distro... gues where this leads really fast... [21:20] when i modify my settings in the system settings in xfce i get it for on session then startx again reverts to old values... [21:20] macavity, ok umm is there some page i can read about this ? [21:20] distrowatch.org [21:20] macavity, uncompable [21:21] Chameleon: no, take a couple of distros appart, do a couple of LFS installs... here is the easy version: build an LFS and get it to work with the slackware package system [21:21] that is the *eaaasy* version [21:22] macavity: yeah I can dude by cd startup and then chroot [21:22] dont dude me [21:22] don't taze me man!!! [21:23] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:23] paul424: so the it doesnt work via lilo and the command i gave you above? [21:23] macavity, so my best bet would be to do a LFS but code my own pkg? [21:23] err must try wait [21:23] paul424 (~chatzilla@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558] [21:24] Chameleon: if you are asking that question, you will not be able to do such a thing. Trust me. [21:24] Chameleon: the reason why i ended back up on slackware was that my LFS installs always became a slightly buggy version of slackware :P [21:24] macavity, this ia all feture reference [21:24] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.247.83) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:24] anybody know how to set keyboard repeat rate and numlock on startup of xwindows [21:24] i am sorry to put it like this, but you are wasting both my and your time [21:25] as you simply have too little knowledge to ask real questions about this [21:25] macavity, if you think so but i just learned a lot from what you have told me [21:26] mikl0: .Xmodmap and .Xresources i think [21:26] and/or [21:26] Chameleon: not really [21:26] macavity, ok i will look into it thanks for a direction [21:26] aryr100 (~aryr100@cpe-67-248-212-47.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:26] mikl0: all /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc* scripts will check for them [21:27] mikl0: look one of them over and see which commands gets called on them respectively [21:27] macavity, can do thanks. [21:28] Chameleon: protip: find the distro that gets closest to meeting our needs, and learn how to mod it [21:28] macavity, well thank you for the info you gave me and i will not wasting your time [21:28] your wellcome.. if you are eager to really learn i think LFS is a great project [21:29] i learned a ton from it.. real knowledge about how s*ht works [21:29] macavity, that is what ive been looking in to but everydistro have things i would like and others have other things i would like [21:30] slackware is the distro that annoys me the least, and fights me the least when i want to change it [21:30] macavity, ill be good i have page on that but far from ready to take that on [21:30] debian is the most feature complete... but also the most annoying way of configuring, and it is exceptionally dense when it comes to modding.. it out right fights you [21:30] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:30] MrJacks0n (Mr@173-86-61-114.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [21:31] Chameleon: if your shell skills are not up to following the LFS book, i am so arrogant as to blankly state that you dont even know what you want yet ;-) [21:32] macavity, to tell you the truth i installed it a wile back played with it for a few days then forgot about it nut the thing is for some reasion the commands stuck in my head easer then aww lets say debian even tho i had the command cheet sheet [21:32] alienBOB, are you still around, by chance? [21:32] if you need to use some other package format, you can covert some of them into slackware packages... like rpm2tgz or whatever the newer tools are now... that has been good enough for me for the rare package that is only in rpm [21:33] Chameleon: that sentense didnt click in... try punktuation :P [21:33] foobarz++ [21:33] MrJackson (~MrJackson@host216.ezlinx.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:33] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-115-225.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:34] heya,slackers [21:34] o/ MLanden [21:34] Lo, MLanden. [21:34] macavity, sorry talking about slackware it just felt right when i first used it [21:34] good god, that sentence makes your brain hurt [21:34] \o macavity [21:35] it's just the opposite of the 'comma parmesan' mentioned in today's slashdot article [21:35] Chameleon: obvisously.. its the no-nonsense distro that puts you in charge (and have no safety net if you are not up for the task) :P [21:35] olé, gm152 [21:36] anyhow.. i should really get back to programming [21:36] ok.. a fresh pot of coffe and half an hour more fun here.. then ill get to it [21:37] Action: macavity obviously doesnt procrastinate... evar [21:38] paul424 (~chatzilla@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [21:39] macavity: that command does not work neither. [21:40] paul424: so you have a USB thumb drive? [21:40] yes [21:40] ok, lemme look this up [21:41] ? [21:41] make backup of what is on it.. it is about to get nuked [21:42] fetch the .sh and the .img from here: ftp://ftp.slackware.no/linux/slackware/slackware-current/usb-and-pxe-installers [21:42] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:42] lol [21:43] i havent said anything... are my shoes *that* funny?!? [21:43] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:43] noo, the .img in -currnet is b0rked [21:43] what?!? [21:43] I'm pretty sure (I just tried) [21:43] Now, not only do I get felt up by "frigg" but I get a freenode-info notice too [21:43] I don't think they have a kernel on them [21:43] then he is pretty screwed [21:43] thrice`: did you use alienBOB's script to make the thumb drive? [21:43] such are the woes of running a devel release :) [21:44] i have tried manually before and failed [21:44] macavity, just mount -o loop the usbboot.img [21:44] andarius++ [21:44] thrice`: on it [21:44] i was going to email Pat, but please confirm I'm not losing it :) just has the syslinux file, and nothing more [21:45] sorry I get noithing from your chatt ... what the use of that usb installer ... to get the acess to network and do the slackpkg thinks , right ? [21:45] paul424: hang on [21:45] do you have a recent ubuntu CD or something, by chance? [21:45] paul424: no, i want to get you a way to boot a .32 kernel that names the drives the new way [21:46] paul424: then it would be no problem to just chroot, edit the root= in lilo.conf, run lilo and be saved [21:46] you need some media that recognizes your disk as /dev/sdXX so that you can properly write lilo to the MBR. [21:46] thrice`: the one i got from ftp.slackware.no looks good [21:47] f2.txt* huge.s* hugesmp.s* initrd.img* ldlinux.sys* message.txt* setpkg* speakup.s* syslinux.cfg* [21:47] ok, good :) perhaps the mirror I grabbed from was still syncing [21:47] macavity, what desktop do you use if any ? [21:47] paul424: ok, procede with the above instruction [21:47] Chameleon: kde.. but most the time is spent in yakuake (a pull down terminal emulator) [21:48] antiwire: Sugar tits? :D [21:48] where?!? [21:48] _RaNdY (randy@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [21:48] huh? [21:48] :P [21:48] thrice`: broke on 64 or 32 bit? [21:49] hmm macavity but I can substitute this kernel via the windowsxp Exploreer err mode ? [21:49] macavity, do you use the defalt kde wm? [21:49] "antiwire: name calling, outside of me calling agentc0re sugar tits, is when the conversations usually break down" [21:49] lol [21:49] i missed him yesterday when he said it.. [21:49] Chameleon: sure, kwin is fine [21:49] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-210-184.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:49] I mean I have the ext2 linux volumes mounted here as windows partitions ... [21:50] Chameleon: if you want 1337 h4x0r style desktops i am totally the wrong guy to ask [21:50] paul424: what? [21:50] paul424: i mean, insert the usb gadget *in slackware* [21:51] paul424: then use usbimg2disk.sh to wipe and prepare it [21:51] no , can't I just overwrite the z:/boot/vmlinux from windowxp [21:51] no [21:51] shing (~tim@adsl-75-15-131-131.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:51] Alan_Hicks: coma esa [21:51] that wont update lilo [21:51] agentc0re: hahah [21:51] esta [21:52] aha [21:52] paul424: now, use the boot media you have to get into slackware [21:52] paul424: this is a little trickey, so i would rather like if you stay focussed [21:52] paul424: we have to do fancy shit now.. in perfectly right order [21:53] XGizzmo, 64-bit [21:54] :) [21:54] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [21:54] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [21:54] shing (~tim@adsl-75-15-131-131.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:55] i'm grabbing it again, my download may have sucked [21:55] usbimg2disk.sh perpers the usb start thumb drive ritht ... [21:55] yes [21:55] you must know the device name of it [21:55] if you dont have anything else USB plugged in it *probably* becomes sda [21:55] but check with dmesg [21:56] we dont want you to nuke the wrong device ;-) [21:56] acidtripper (~gonzalo@32-140-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [21:56] also make sure it is unmounted (eg, if you start KDE, dont click on it when the menu pops up) [21:57] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-173-095-153-076.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:57] yeah I know how to do that , I am used to attaching it via console, be cool dude :) [21:57] Hi all!, long time away... checking changelog i saw phonon update related to utf-8 names, i think this was the bug i was having with amarok [21:58] macavity: hello how are you? [21:58] macavity, no i just want to be happy with what i choose i just want a secure,stable anf highly customisable [21:58] better safe than sorry.. i dont want you to go "great, we fixed my slackware, but we lost the Ph D thesis i have been working on for 18 months" ;-) [21:58] dunix (~dguitar@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:58] mrselfpwn: im good, you? [21:58] macavity: how does it feel to be the king of cheeze? [21:58] acidtripper: whcih version of amarok? [21:58] O_o [21:58] :) [21:58] s/whcih/which [21:58] :P [21:58] i am ze king of ze cheeze?!? [21:58] si lol [21:59] i like cheeze [21:59] yeah, just the 64-bit seems broken [21:59] do you? [21:59] lulz, i haz ze commands on mah puni cheeze servantz! [21:59] actually not really [21:59] that is why you are king then i guess [21:59] Action: macavity shakes his head :P [22:00] but this teaches me a lessons that current versions are not always stable :P [22:00] oh, it is perfectly stable.. there was just a gotcha :P [22:00] as mentioned in the ChangeLog ;-) [22:00] hmm if i could sed macavity for someone else, who would it be [22:00] jeev: yomomma [22:00] anytime we can break a way from reality macavity it's +1 for reality so i try and give a hand where I can. [22:01] macavity, is the upgrade procedure still complex? [22:01] Chameleon: only in this case where device node names have changed [22:01] Chameleon: other than that it is just a matter of steppeing over ChangeLog and acting accordingly [22:02] 2.4.1? [22:02] MLanden: i don't remember, latest in change log on december [22:02] anyone have experience with mutiboot usb? [22:03] how limited are the number of officially supported applications? [22:03] Chameleon: but, as paul424 learned.. slackware-current does not mean "slackware more upto date kind of more 1337 super geeky"... it means "the development branch, wait untill it is baked, kkthxbai" [22:03] well it is more super geeky [22:03] antiwire (antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("Bored by the chore of saving face."). [22:03] but no 1337 involved [22:04] i only run -current if i know it happens to fix something that has bitten me [22:04] or you can run it to learn morE? [22:04] Nick change: _RaNdY -> RaNdY [22:04] RaNdY (randy@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) left irc: Changing host [22:04] RaNdY (randy@shellium/member/randy) joined ##slackware. [22:04] acidtripper: ok....when you start amarok from console does it give any errors from phonon? [22:04] i dont bother any more :P [22:05] i just want something that works [22:05] i'm glad slack doesn' [22:05] force anything in that aspect [22:05] as i remeber no, now im using gentoo with rhythmbox, but i would have to try upgrading [22:05] paul424: status? [22:05] any important change or just upgrading must work without changes? [22:05] on general system [22:06] macavity: I am moving my files from pendrive [22:06] roger [22:06] there';s some documentation so its picks each file and moves ... like javadoc or something it might take time [22:06] ujj odne [22:06] we cool [22:06] uhh done [22:07] are you in wondows or slackware? [22:07] acidtripper (~gonzalo@32-140-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:08] wondors [22:08] macavity, just to let you know i have been successful installing gentoo but didnt like how long it took that is why i want to try slackware again [22:08] lol [22:08] reboot by media and chroot [22:08] Chameleon: genpoo? freaking ricers! i tell you: ricers! ;-) [22:09] and now straterra is probably going to get medival on my hinie :P [22:09] macavity, ricers meaning ? [22:10] Chameleon: ricers is a term origianlly used about people who punched cheep asian cars [22:10] radi0head (~freakshow@modemcable098.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:10] eg, people who want something cheep to go faster by modding the hell out of it [22:10] macavity, i knew it was a raciest joke [22:10] macavity: do you know much about grub2? [22:11] Chameleon: stfu [22:11] mrselfpwn, what did i say to offend you ? [22:11] Chameleon: uhm, no.. nothing bad about asians at all.. just about people who over clock their systems and compile stuff with -O3 to "make it go faster" [22:11] nothing [22:12] Chameleon: i just put in writing what my heart desired [22:12] mrselfpwn: ring corner, now :P [22:12] :P [22:12] mrselfpwn, be carful you could end up paying for it i did [22:12] macavity: do you know much about grub2? [22:13] nope [22:13] Chameleon: i always pay for it [22:13] ok, break it guys [22:13] Chameleon: why do you think I keep coming bck [22:13] macavity: he's on my side now [22:13] >_< [22:13] macavity, lol funny stuff [22:13] then take it out in ##slackware-offtopic [22:13] brb] [22:13] paul424 (~chatzilla@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558] [22:14] :Pfuck that racist place [22:14] :P [22:14] mrselfpwn, lol [22:14] daidoji (~daidoji70@99.48.50.198) joined ##slackware. [22:14] anyhow how solid id slackware? [22:15] what? [22:15] very solid [22:15] honnestly, 13.0 shipped at a bad timing... the Intel graphics stuff is simply hit-or-miss [22:15] one of the oldest distros [22:15] how solid is doom 1? [22:15] fadein (~fadein@c-98-202-172-65.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [22:15] it's very nic [22:15] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:15] nothing slackware as such could do about it.. many of the other distroes of the same release period suffered from it too [22:16] macavity: is blowing steam [22:16] it's not that way [22:16] there he goes again [22:17] XD [22:17] how customisable is it ? [22:17] daidoji: specifically, the oldest distro still in development :P [22:17] macavity: i love you bro. ;) [22:17] mrselfpwn: your drunk.. sleep it off ;-) [22:17] Chameleon: very.. because it is KISS all the way, so it doesnt fight you when you want to alter something [22:17] anyway, i guess macavity thinks i'm drunk about now [22:18] the boot scripts are simplicity in motion :-) [22:18] mrselfpwn: people only declare me love when they are drunk... for the good reason that i am generally an unpleasant butthole [22:19] wpagui is annoying me, keeps poppping up connected and disconnected [22:19] bastard [22:19] macavity: and i realize that and out of good spite i profess my (hidden) love for you. [22:19] :-) [22:19] ;) [22:19] i SO can't wait untill i turn 70 [22:20] Action: andarius will be 70 in 65 years :o [22:20] fuck that will be pretty cool [22:20] Action: jeev is 94 [22:20] then i have every reason in the world to say mean things to people.. and have it justified if i just laugh right after [22:20] i was thinking about it today [22:20] you have a meet with your sis and she is 73 [22:20] or whatever [22:20] macavity, Debian isn't older? [22:21] would be strange to have a normal conversation. [22:21] i guess [22:21] daidoji: nope [22:21] though i'm not an old man yet like some slackers here. ;) [22:21] person (~ed@92.20.12.134) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:21] daidoji: but it is not much [22:21] google "linux timeline" and find the big picture of linux distributions [22:22] someone told me slack ware is a cult [22:22] lol [22:22] Chameleon: look up "church of the subgenius" on wikipedia and have a great laugh [22:22] it is [22:22] you mean you arent a member and dont know ? [22:22] teh best cult [22:23] Action: andarius gets out his sacraficial dagger ... [22:23] http://futurist.se/gldt/ [22:23] mrselfpwn: i am going to be just like this guy: http://twitter.com/shitmydadsays [22:23] errr.. his dad that is :P [22:23] Euthanatos (~chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:23] that link takes you to a page where you can d/l the linux timeline chart [22:24] macavity, someone sholded me that all ready [22:24] macavity, that sub stuff is funny to you ? [22:25] macavity: i'll check it out later [22:25] lol,andarius...make Bob happy..:D [22:25] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-183-11.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [22:25] i just shaved my mustache like [22:25] Hitler today. [22:26] Chameleon: very... maybe because i am religion agnostic [22:26] but i'm missing the center piece [22:26] i guess it will have to grow on my XD [22:26] s/my/me [22:26] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:28] ya well i shave the middle part and kep the rest [22:28] regardless of religious views or affiliation, i don't see that page as anything more than a collaboration of random obsceneties [22:31] Kamel: what page? [22:32] peacedog (~peacedog@pool-71-254-90-58.lyncva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:34] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:37] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [22:37] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [22:38] person (~ed@92.23.101.221) joined ##slackware. [22:38] peacedog: how'd you fare from the snow that happened over the weekend?...bout 5-8 inches here in Suffolk..Chesapeake [22:39] MLanden, we got about 8-10, still a mess here. Calling for more tomorrow a.m. and again this weekend! ;-( [22:40] The main roads are ok, but the side streets and residential areas are still dangerous. [22:41] peacedog: same here...think Raleigh got the worst of it [22:41] global warming my ... [22:42] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:42] laj (~laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [22:42] it's all just a consparicy [22:42] :P [22:42] Mlanden: My home office is Richmond and a few of those folks got 15 or so "'s. [22:43] Yeah, Global BS! That's what it is. ;-) [22:43] where i live we have goten nothen over 5 cm [22:43] i dont know what it is.. but i know that i dont trust Al Gore, and i know that 30,000 climatologists say that what the 260 (of which more than half are pencil chewers) that work for the govt doesnt add up [22:43] peacedog: guess it hit hardest right on that stretch of I95 [22:43] jailbox (~laj2@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:43] it just way to cold [22:44] we need some of that global warming down here in Florida [22:44] friggin cold [22:44] I am in Raleigh and we got about 6". It was worse to the west of us and in the NC mountains. I think Asheville got 12". [22:44] we had +3 degrees on January 8th. That's global warming for you. [22:44] 30000 who have their title on the line.. vs 260 who have plot armour... doesn't smell right.. [22:45] so stop sinffing it [22:45] :P [22:45] chess: ok...I stand corrected..thanks [22:45] macavity, that's how 9.11 is too. a select number of people saying it's terrorist activity + media, then the scientists and shit that say it's b.s. [22:46] the scientists without agenda [22:46] ohdannyboy (~dan@c-66-56-9-232.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:47] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [22:48] hello * i have a problem with md5pass and sha1pass [22:48] the sccript return error " [22:48] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:48] Can't locate"... [22:49] g4tt0: /var/log/packages/syslinux-3.52-i486-1:usr/bin/md5pass [22:50] next time do a full install ;-) [22:50] # ls -la /var/log/packages/syslinux* [22:50] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4118 2010-01-29 03:00 /var/log/packages/syslinux-3.84-i486-2 [22:50] :( [22:50] g4tt0: grep md5pass /var/log/packages/* [22:50] you are on 13.0, i am on -current, so i could be mistaken [22:51] grep md5pass /var/log/packages/* [22:51] /var/log/packages/syslinux-3.84-i486-2:usr/bin/md5pass [22:51] then the script does something stupid [22:51] yes are current ^^ [22:51] as obviously you have /usr/bin/md5pass [22:51] laj (~laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [22:52] wait a seccond.. i am behind with -current.. completely forgot the last batch [22:52] the alianware computers are so sexxy but my only problem is there is to V port for my D drive [22:53] You're missing a perl module. [22:53] Chameleon: no V to your D?...:P [22:53] ok.. paul424 can bite me... leaving a helpfull person on the hang like this is nothing short of insulting [22:53] Action: MLanden smacks head....couldn't resist [22:54] gm152: care to elaborate? [22:54] md5pass is calling for Crypt/PasswdMD5.pm. [22:55] ah, got it [22:55] i am missing that too [22:55] paul424 (~chatzilla@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [22:55] .. which perl can't locate. [22:55] paul424: and? [22:55] g4tt0: seems like you have hit a slackware bug [22:56] macavity: hhehehe nope it ain't working cause I miss the syslinux package. Will have to wait till down for someone's bash acess in dormitory [22:56] err sunrise :P [22:56] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-5-22.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:56] binari0 (~dorany@190.80.152.192) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:56] jailbox (~laj2@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [22:57] so you couldnt construct the thumbdrive because you dont have syslinux installed or what did you say? [22:57] yes I don't have it installed [22:57] init[1] (buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:57] http://aliencelebrities.com/contests/submition04_1michal%20as%20alian.jpg OMG [22:57] lol [22:58] his clone 3rd sugery [22:58] riht i see it [22:58] omg :S [22:59] paul424: ok, so you learned two things today: 1) -current requires knowledge, and 2) do a freaking full install! ;-) [22:59] binari0 (~dorany@190.80.152.192) joined ##slackware. [22:59] macavity: not a problem, I will not use md5pass/sha1pass^^ [22:59] well I did freaking full install. seems it is a 3rd party package [22:59] not it's not [22:59] paul424: are you in slackware now? [23:00] g4tt0: well.. we need it fixed anyhow [23:00] no I switched to wondors again :P [23:00] Guest93647 (buffer@support.team.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [23:00] ok.. as i could have just given you a direct link for the package to wget [23:00] peacedog (peacedog@pool-71-254-90-58.lyncva.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:00] btw, you are aware that you can boot slackware normally with the CD/DVD, right? [23:00] it gives instructions right on the first page [23:01] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [23:01] macavity: yeah thanks kindly for your help, but ... yeah I booted it from cd/dvd [23:01] just make sure you do "rdinit= ro" and not "rdinit=ro" (common mistake) [23:01] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [23:01] paul424: did you boot and chroot, or did you boot the installed version using the CD? [23:01] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:01] heh I usually do enter the boot , then log as root , then mount the disck , and then chroot [23:01] ok, dont [23:01] why ? [23:02] it spells out how to boot the system directly [23:02] so you get networking etc etc [23:02] hmm that would be useful [23:02] yes [23:02] that is what you will do when the usb key is up and running [23:03] but you need to edit /etc/fstab between the two [23:03] otherwise you will get into a crippled system [23:03] personally i have fstap pointing / to /dev/root as that symlink always gets set right [23:03] josey (~sony@85.26.95.150) joined ##slackware. [23:04] uhhh I see you mean to get back to the setting of s/hda/sda [23:04] but the other partitions will have changed names too.. but that is fixable [23:04] hmm I can do this from winxp [23:04] dont yet [23:04] macavity: I installed this package " http://tinyurl.com/crypt-passwdmd5 " and seems to work only md5pass.. [23:05] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:05] thanks for the support guys. [23:05] good night ^^ [23:05] g4tt0: then you need to check what shapass needs [23:05] nn g4tt0 [23:05] person (~ed@92.23.101.221) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:06] guys i need a new nick name [23:07] macavity: so what to do edit fstab from linux or winxp ? [23:07] paul424: you dont yet [23:07] period, now stop thinking [23:07] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] Chameleon: Doctor Doom? [23:07] we need to have a working boot media with a .32 kernel ready and at hand before we can do that [23:08] and to make that boot media you need to leave your fstab alone for now [23:08] ok ... could you point me to the syslinux package I mean slacbuild would be good right ? [23:09] how about the official one that ships with -current, will that do? [23:10] paul424: ftp://ftp.slackware.no/linux/slackware/slackware-current/slackware/a/syslinux-3.84-i486-2.txz [23:10] so dont give me the "i did a full install" crap again :P [23:11] ok. In /var/logs/packages says it is installed [23:12] does slackware come with irssi? [23:12] then boot your system properly so $PATH gets set right and whatnot [23:12] Chameleon: yes [23:12] so the method I booted up was unproper ,. yeah [23:12] Dominian, ok thank you [23:12] np [23:12] now, boot the CD, read the helpfull message about "in a pinch you can use this to boot your system" [23:12] josey (sony@85.26.95.150) left ##slackware. [23:13] and dont write "rdinit=ro" but rather "rdinit= ro" as it says [23:13] ok ok brb [23:13] then i am fairly certain that your /usr partition will be mounted [23:13] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:13] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422170.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:14] paul424 (~chatzilla@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558] [23:14] Chameleon (Chameleon@CPE0016179aa1df-CM00122540797c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:15] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!0@* expired. [23:15] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [23:16] vonkemp (~vonkemp@125-239-114-215.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [23:18] earp_child (~Dirty@72-4-87-94.gncsin06.customers.broadreach.net) joined ##slackware. [23:19] earp_child (~Dirty@72-4-87-94.gncsin06.customers.broadreach.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:20] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:20] Any RAID gurus around? I can't seem to get my NTFS Windows partitions to mount in linux (or boot from lilo).. Ubuntu correctly mounts it but Slack complains it can't find a valid NTFS. Ubuntu also shows dm_raid45 loaded in lsmod which I can't find on slack.. Here is my lspci if that helps -> http://pastebin.ca/1775195 [23:20] person (~ed@92.9.246.60) joined ##slackware. [23:21] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [23:21] vonkemp (vonkemp@125-239-114-215.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left ##slackware. [23:21] do you have the dm modules on in your current config ? [23:21] I also noticed Ubunutu seems to mount something in /dev/mapper/randomchars_Volume0 [23:22] jeev: using generic so I assume so.. [23:22] jeev: However.. I dunno what dm modules actually are.. [23:22] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [23:22] grep -i raid45 /boot/config [23:22] is it set to y ? [23:23] or m [23:23] mine shows y so i dunno [23:23] i duno why it says 456 though [23:23] are you on hugesmp? [23:23] it's set to y in both huge and generic.. [23:23] I've booted with both.. [23:23] generic and huge have it [23:24] maybe pastebin your dmesg [23:24] sure 1 sec [23:24] wescotte: i think you need to make your initrd with mkinitrd -R [23:24] if it's set as y? [23:24] it's not a module, why would he need to mkinitrd [23:24] oh -R [23:25] he's not trying to boot it, just mount it [23:25] then he manually needs to do something with mdadm [23:25] really [23:25] .. or just let the initrd handle it [23:26] then figure out what name it gets, and edit fstab accordingly [23:26] *maybe* you could change it to m, and try to modprobe it [23:26] what does ubunti's config show [23:26] http://pastebin.ca/1775201 <-- dmesg [23:26] I didn't look at Ubuntu's config.. I can boot into it and check though [23:27] I'm guessing it's =m though [23:27] as it showed dm_raid45 in lsmod [23:27] is dm_raid45 the same as 456? [23:27] i duno man i'd check [23:28] checking.. [23:28] if it's default, maybe you can find it online [23:28] m0n-E (~m0ney@adsl-70-233-132-238.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:28] ubuntu also uses an initrd [23:29] could it be working and there is a /dev/something else for the volume0 for the RAID? Ubuntu shows it as /dev/mapper/somethinggoofy_Volume0 [23:29] now, remake your initrd with mkinitrd -R [23:29] or sit down and figure out how mdadm works :P [23:29] macavity: I've trued with huge as well.. same result.. [23:29] i dont care what you have tried... [23:29] either you let the initrd call mdadm for you, or you do it yourself [23:29] i jus tdont know why he needs -R [23:29] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-173-095-153-076.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [23:30] if he's not booting to the partition [23:30] it needs to be done [23:30] mount ubunti's initrd and see if dm raid 45 is there [23:30] *he needs more than a kernel module* [23:31] grep mdadm /etc/rc.d/* [23:31] it doesnt get called.. wonder why? [23:32] so with -R it'll call mdadm itself? otherwise I'm reading the man pages on it now.. [23:32] -R This option adds RAID support to the initrd, if a static mdadm binary is available on the system. [23:33] binari0 (~dorany@190.80.152.192) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:33] Ubuntu has CONFIG_DMRAID45=m [23:33] weird, i thought initrd is just a bundle of modules necessary to actualy boot into the system [23:33] wescotte, mount the ubunti initrd and see if it's in there [23:34] jeev: it also handles crypto setup and LVM and RAID [23:34] yea but i dont think he has that stuff [23:34] i dont have -R [23:34] on my raid1 system [23:34] using mdadm [23:34] binari0 (~dorany@190.80.152.192) joined ##slackware. [23:34] cause it doesn't boot to it [23:34] infact, i dont even have an initrd on it [23:34] mdadm is necessary even if you don't boot to it? [23:35] isnt raid1 auto detect? [23:35] How do I mount an initrd? [23:35] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.43.251) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [23:35] i dont know much about this stuff, i just got back into using linux again was using freebsd for a long ass time [23:35] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:35] it's raid0 right now.. It'll eventually be 10 though [23:35] wescotte, google it i gotta go bb in about 20 [23:36] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-183-11.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [23:37] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: Quit: zzzzzzzz [23:37] har (~harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:38] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-210-184.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [23:39] Thanks for all the help so far guys.. I've been googling for hours not really knowing WTF I should be looking for [23:39] wescotte: just try mkinitrd -R --other-options-as-usual [23:39] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:39] k [23:39] then you and jeev can go back to investigating how ubuntu works later [23:39] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Atheism is a non-prophet organization. George Carlin [23:40] heh [23:41] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:41] radi0head (~freakshow@modemcable098.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:42] acidtripper (~gonzalo@32-140-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [23:42] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [23:44] macius (~macius@i209-195-64-221.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [23:45] macavity: okay, done.. But how I mount it? I assume it create something new in /dev rather than the normal /dev/sda1? [23:47] hopefully it creates it with the same name that bimbuntu does [23:47] macavity: there is nothing in /dev/mappers except "control" which doesn't seem to mount... [23:47] says it's not a block device.. [23:47] but it should be a normal "mount -f ntfs-3g /dev/fubarthingie_volume0 /mnt/windows" [23:48] mtkoan (mtkoan@unaffiliated/mtkoan) joined ##slackware. [23:48] ok.. lets see what dmesg have to say [23:51] and if that doesnt yeild anything interesting, try "mdadm --auto-detect" [23:51] macavity: http://pastebin.ca/1775217 [23:52] where can i get a slackware linux pentiun III I need something very soft and thank to the the person who can help me. [23:53] I mean that I need a linux for pentiun III [23:53] binari0: The latest slackware version will run on a Pentium III machine [23:53] Yup, I run it on a P2 [23:54] wescotte: what does mdadm --auto-detect say? [23:55] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [23:55] I'm new with that but I can see the last version have a 6 cd, can I get just the first cd for install slackware? [23:55] no output.. [23:55] even with -v [23:55] binari0: just dont try to run KDE on it :P [23:55] jejeje ok will [23:55] binari0: probably CD1 and CD2 [23:55] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC30FB5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:56] binari0: or get the DVD.. [23:56] dissociative (~alejandro@adsl190-28-67-196.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [23:56] binari0: since you are new i suggest that... [23:56] wescotte: PIII and DVD drive? :P [23:56] macavity: hmm maybe.. :) I think my P3 800 has a DVD-ROM.. [23:56] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [23:57] no but I can out a dvd [23:57] macavity: no output from mdadm --auto-detect [23:57] macavity [23:57] macavity: dmesg has some results but says 0 devices added [23:57] macavity :-) [23:57] wescotte: yeah.. for some reason.. i am pondering [23:58] binari0: the DVD or CD1 and CD2, your choice [23:58] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-183-11.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [23:58] thank you [23:59] binari0: i wont reccomend CD1 only and network install for the rest.. since you are new to slackware, and slackware is not, point-and-click [23:59] fuzzix (~fuzzix@93.107.66.58) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [00:00] --- Tue Feb 2 2010