[00:00] nix_chix0r: get high, then chicken thawing is awesome [00:00] well then it's sanctioned, you're all good [00:00] little benadryl for him some booze for me [00:00] you'll be set. [00:00] btw, duty free...ftw [00:01] Sira the street dealer. [00:01] :> [00:01] child services are easier to talk to on the other end when you're slammed. [00:01] hahaha [00:01] lol [00:02] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [00:03] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [00:04] Nick change: wowbagger -> UdontKnow [00:06] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:09] does anyone know an application that will save multi-page pdf files to jpg? [00:09] or other image format? [00:09] 'display' part of imagemagic wont do anything other than the first page of the pdf. [00:09] I knew of one, but can't recall the name atm. [00:09] pdf2jpg i believe exists. [00:10] I think that's the one I've used. It was a while ago however. [00:10] freshmeat and sf.net draw a blank [00:11] and google is just filled with windows applications that do it. [00:11] pdfimages [00:11] so i'm guessing its part of another package on linux [00:11] acidchild: I don't know about multi-page, but I've used gimp to do single page ones. [00:11] pdfimages -j foo.pdf foo [00:11] you could do it the lamer way and take screen shots [00:12] indeed. [00:12] lol antiwire, what if it's like 100 pages. :P that'd be fun. [00:12] you get one jpeg per page, named foo-001.jpg, foo-002.jpg, etc etc [00:12] firebird619: one is 570+ [00:12] actully [00:12] haha [00:12] 4.4M DD1494 Preparation Guide.pdf [00:13] pdfimages is from the poppler package (stock slackware) [00:14] lol [00:14] 4.4MB that's what...500 screen shots? [00:14] bahaha [00:14] Urchlay: can you find there home page? [00:14] for the project [00:14] sf.net and freshmeat are drawing a blank, i'm on archlinux heh [00:14] whose home page? poppler? I never looked... [00:15] oh its part of poppler? [00:15] yeah [00:15] Action: acidchild installs [00:15] antiwire: I just found out, eduke32 has bots [00:16] omg I thought duke32 was free, what a waste of time QQ [00:16] what the DD-000.ppm: Netpbm PPM "rawbits" image data [00:16] lame.. [00:16] doesn't even output in jpg [00:16] you didn't use -j, did you? [00:16] -j : write JPEG images as JPEG files [00:16] LOL [00:16] lol [00:17] heh, still isn't making jpgs.. lame [00:17] stealth-: the game engine's free. The game content isn't (but there's the shareware version, if you just want to play episode 1) [00:18] and there is always torrents >:D [00:18] acidchild: couldnt find anything, but I havnt looked much. [00:18] because of course you 'lost your cd' ;) right? [00:18] Urchlay: so the shareware version just leaves out some of the campaign? [00:18] right [00:19] k, thanks. I have this brain defect where I think shareware means I have to pay. Forgot about that :P [00:19] at this point I don't think the Shareware Police are going to come to your house... [00:19] Urchlay: lame, this PDF is broken... but will display on xpdf. [00:19] but pdfimages aint working :-( [00:20] so shareware is pay-to-play? [00:20] shareware is like a demo [00:20] ah [00:20] thx ghost [00:20] stealth-, shareware is a crippled demo, usually [00:20] stealth-: for example the original doom shareware was the 1st chapter [00:20] stealth-, with the game engine, but maybe crippled stuff in it [00:21] stealth-: shareware is where you share your bank and credit card details with me. [00:21] zGhost, great example [00:21] acidchild, LOL [00:21] yeah, in this case it's exactly that, a crippled demo (only has the first episode) [00:21] k, cool. thanks, Ill go get it now [00:21] stealth-: i'll promise not to spend more than 3000$/aday [00:21] acidchild: how many times has that worked out for you? :P [00:21] :) [00:21] firebird619: LOL you'd be supprised :/ [00:21] haha [00:21] people are _morons_ [00:22] acidchild: and you know how many of em? :P [00:22] acidchild: is your pdf something you can give me a link to, or is it all personal & stuff? [00:22] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:22] cmk_zzz (n=cmk@125-237-112-135.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:23] mmm its not personal, its a unclassified DoD document [00:23] so i guess i could... [00:23] why you know how to fix it? [00:23] don't know unless I look at it, but maybe [00:23] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.28.97) left irc: "Leaving" [00:23] don't do anything that'll get you in trouble [00:23] (or me either) [00:24] meh i dunno, i'll just do my best. [00:24] :) [00:24] thanks though [00:24] acidchild: I know how you can spend 3000/day [00:24] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:24] oh trust me i can :P [00:24] Does anyone know the last Slackware that had a libc compat library? [00:24] what, libc5? [00:24] or ancient libc4? [00:25] acidchild: as long as you promise, Ill share my gf's with you :) [00:25] I havbe a few old Wingz sheets I want to export. [00:25] stealth-: sorry i do not want your girlfriend >.> [00:25] no offence. [00:25] i'm sure Urchlay will take her off your hands. [00:25] he needs a cleaning maide [00:25] acidchild: I was talking about the bank account. I didnt read your response till a bit later [00:25] acidchild: lol [00:26] heh. If you could see the inside of this room... I need a whole platoon of maids to clean it [00:26] lol [00:26] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:27] I'm trying to find a way of getting an old Linux distro up on Qemu, but last one I tried (RedHat 4.1 disk I have here) didn't recognize the Qemu IDE emulator. [00:27] oh man [00:28] Hence my search. [00:28] whoa. Does eduke32 have any explicit material? I needed to give my age to download the shareware [00:28] Really don't want to dig up an old crusty box. I've pretty much given those away. [00:29] stealth-: eduke32 itself doesn't have *any* material, it all comes from the game content files (the shareware thingy you're downloading) [00:29] Urchlay: my room looks pretty damn clean [00:29] i'm so proud of myself :P [00:29] Urchlay: the shareware for linux is hard to find, do you have any links to it? [00:30] Mine doesn't. ;-) [00:30] AFAIK, there never was a shareware duke nukem 3d for linux [00:30] lol [00:30] data files are platform independent since like 1990 [00:30] stealth-: you use the eduke32 game engine, with the data files taken from the shareware DOS version of the game. [00:31] stealth-: I thought you were using the SBo build scripts... go to http://www.slackbuilds.org and search there for "eduke32" [00:31] i use finger paints and poop [00:31] where is this convo going? [00:31] Interesting. RH 5.2 installs on Qemu. I have that on CD somewhere. Would really prefer a slack though. [00:32] Urchlay: yeah I did, but it says I need a file from the shareware or CD, and I was wondering if you had a link to it [00:32] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [00:32] eduke32_shareware_data on slackbuilds [00:32] ....yeah I just say that [00:32] Action: stealth- slams his head into desk [00:32] thanks [00:32] ...although I just discovered today, the download link is no longer valid. use ftp://ftp.3drealms.com/pub/share/3dduke13.zip instead [00:33] k, thx [00:33] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.28.97) joined ##slackware. [00:33] caoliver> slackware works on qemu.... [00:34] am in the process of updating all those builds (I'd be done if I didn't keep just playing the game instead of working on the scripts..) [00:34] haha Urchlay this PDF talks about 'electronic warfare' [00:34] haha kinda cool [00:35] talking about it like going and buying coffee [00:35] haha [00:35] caoliver: I know the slackware 3.x versions were libc5-based, and 4.0 was the first one with glibc (but it could still run libc5 stuff) [00:35] slaxor: I know that. I have a 12.2 vm on this laptop, but I'm trying to get a libc4 system up, so I can recover some old Wingz spreadsheets. [00:35] oh, libc4... [00:35] dunno if 4.0 will help you there, maybe though [00:35] this eduke32 looks awesome [00:36] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:36] libc.so.5 [00:36] what do wingz spreadsheets look like on disk? maybe they're human-readable... [00:36] Binary scroggles. Do not want to reverse engineer. [00:36] Bleah! [00:36] yuck [00:36] Lazy! [00:37] Urchlay: so, what? I rename that once I got it to DUKE3D.GRP and put it in where? [00:37] caoliver: 'strings' =] [00:37] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [00:37] eh, how about finding the source for the spreadsheet & recompiling? (or is it even open source?) [00:37] Urchlay: lol I feel like such a noob at this stuff XD [00:37] I wish. It was an Informix product that got orphaned a long while back. [00:37] stealth-: eh, it's a SBo package. You download the file into the directory where the slackbuild script lives, and run the SlackBuild script... [00:38] stealth-: ah, if you're not familiar with the process, have a look here: http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [00:38] Ok. That seems to lib libc-5. [00:38] s/lib lib/be lib/ [00:39] It's been a long time since I stop using that stuff. [00:39] caoliver: there was a release of Wingz in 2004 [00:39] Urchlay: well I am, but that ftp download link you sent me contains a .SHR, .DIZ, .EXE, and license files in the .zip container [00:40] Eh? Didn't know that. Where? [00:40] caoliver: http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/redirect.php?id_download=4333 [00:41] stealth-: right. It's the "source" file, you don't extract it (the .SlackBuild script will do that) [00:41] Urchlay: okay, okay. I see what you meant. Sorry, you told me that the new link and I assumed I was supposed to forget about the whole .slackbuild stuff. [00:42] I was aware of that one. It wants libc 5. [00:42] So does WingzPro. [00:42] here's a thought, caoliver [00:42] My brain is open./ [00:42] try running slackware 3 in qemu [00:43] instead of qemu, just extract all the packages from whatever ancient slackware version into like /usr/local/oldcrap, then chroot there and see if the app will run [00:43] I thought of that. I don't know if the kernel will support Qemu's IDE. [00:43] Oh. [00:44] (actually you shouldn't need anywhere near *all* the packages) [00:44] That's an interesting idea. [00:44] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:44] No. Just libc/m and the X stuff I think. [00:44] slackware's package management system is pretty cool once you get used to it. Lol, it felt so useless at first coming over from debain. [00:44] that would be my first approach, cause I used to have to deal with crap like that at an old job I once had [00:45] I actually was very pleased after dealing with RPMs. [00:45] "We just bought [proprietary turd]. You have to make it run on [already installed system]." [00:46] Only burr under my saddle is that I wish on the initial dialog that you could go back a series and add packages you forgot. [00:46] caoliver: well i just didnt see all the alternatives. The original idea I got was that I would have to ftp to the slackware source and download any packages I want, then check for updates manually before I downloaded them and installed them [00:47] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:47] caoliver: as long as the series you forgot wasn't A, you can fix that post-install :) [00:47] (but then you already knew that) [00:48] Yeah. It'd still be nice to say, "oh I really wanted that" during the install dialog. [00:49] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:49] Rather than the ineluctable march forward. [00:49] dunno about doing it dialogically (if that's even a word), but after setup dumps you back to a # prompt, you can manually run installpkg or pkgtool [00:50] Yes. Jes' sayin' [00:50] fair enough... [00:51] (anybody who uses "ineluctable" in casual dialog is OK in my book, BTW) [00:51] It's a handy word. [00:53] bb [00:53] I'm still going to try to get this under emulation, so I can run the X out to my usual box over ssh. [00:54] bb [00:54] ttyl? [00:54] lymeca (n=lymeca@dsl-74-220-76-19.dhcp.cruzio.com) left ##slackware ("No matter how dark the night, somehow the Sun rises once again"). [00:54] hm. Nothing useful for wingz or wkz on search.cpan.org (that would be my favored approach) [00:54] Nick change: Meckafet1 -> Meckafett [00:55] That's thinking. Some bright spark may have written an exporter in PERL. [00:55] awww..... WAY too laggy [00:55] What? [00:55] eduke32 [00:55] Ok. [00:55] is also possible you could run the windoze version in wine [00:55] Mero_ (n=meroslac@201009172024.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "[BX] Connection reset by panasync?" [00:56] and (stretching the bounds of possibility, but) export them to CSV files [00:56] Or [shudder] run windows in emu. [00:56] actually I do that, for an old game I still like [00:56] In some cases, it's just the data, so tab delin files would do fine. [00:57] in other cases there's formatting that matters? ugh [00:58] More that I want the formula cells. [00:58] Urchlay: duke32 can't be compiled on 64 bit? [00:58] Then it'd be duke64. :-* [00:59] Sorry. Silly moment. (Shoomp! boot to the head.) [00:59] caoliver: oh I liked it. :P [01:01] chopp: actually, yes it can [01:02] Ok. RH 5.2 has libc5 compat. I may give that a try first, though I detest to RH installation procedure. [01:02] /to/the/ [01:02] chopp: at least, the 20090313 snapshot can be (the old version from the SBo script can't be, or anyway I thought so when I wrote the script...) [01:02] Urchlay: ahh allright thanks. [01:03] caoliver: ah, back when people actually used formulas in spreadsheets... these days people seem to use them as "like Word, but with columns" [01:03] Have to go and dig through yonder dusty pile of ancient CDs. 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[01:13] pragma_ (n=pragma@unaffiliated/pragma/x-109842) returned to ##slackware. [01:13] Urchlay: thank you. :) [01:13] commented out the bit about the man page, and set TAG to my initials instead of _SBo [01:13] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089079179132.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:13] I see that [01:13] duryodha1 (n=duryodha@nat/yahoo/x-479e19b6670231fa) joined ##slackware. [01:13] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089079179132.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [01:14] one of these years I'll have a web site again, for posting tarballs of crap like that [01:15] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-83-236.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [01:15] duryodhan (n=duryodha@nat/yahoo/x-af920cfc93f88963) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:16] why not just use dyndns or the like on a home box? [01:16] currently cause I have no access to the router to forward any ports to my box [01:16] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:17] missyjane (n=hey@unaffiliated/missyjane) got lost in the net-split. [01:17] (I rent a room in a house, and use their ISP) [01:17] that would be reason enough. [01:18] so, I got a question. Why do people get their programs by downloading the source and a app to turn the source into a installable file, rather than just precompiling it and distributing the installable file? [01:18] various reasons [01:18] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:19] one reason is, if you can compile the app, it stands a good chance of actually being able to run on your system [01:19] such as? just seems too time consuming to me, if you were compiling a bigger sized app [01:19] ah [01:19] I see. [01:19] Urchlay: I'm in almost the same situation, except I provide the router/firewall/mythtv/voip, and get my net for free. [01:19] Bins have a nasty habit of suffering bit rot. [01:19] how come debain doesnt have to work that way too then? or do they just take the chance and hope it works on your system? [01:20] since slackware's package manager doesn't do dependency checking, you might get stuck needing multiple versions of the same libraries, to get different binary packages to coexist... [01:20] oh, okay. That one makes alot more sense [01:20] forgot about that [01:20] slKIvs (n=ivan@29.126.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:20] thx [01:20] kinesis (n=methoxy@ip72-197-207-247.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:21] the idea with slackbuilds.org (for me anyway) would be to build the packages on my fastest box, and install them on all my other ones (or I would, if I were running a network of more than 2 machines...) [01:21] Do I really need the chroot for the idea, or can I somehow fool exec into using a different loader? chroot jails are a pain. [01:21] yeah, I only run slack on one laptop though. [01:22] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:22] caoliver: possibly you can give the full path to the loader, with the program name as an argument [01:22] I noticed that ldd wouldn't work, so I figured it wasn't even finding LD. [01:22] yeah [01:23] Urchlay: http://www.dsplog.com/2008/03/03/frequency-offset-estimation-using-80211a-short-preamble/ [01:23] god damn dude... check that math out [01:23] :| [01:24] um, after installing xmoto, I get an error that its missing dependency libode.so.1, however searching for it returns nothing. Any ideas? [01:24] something about the grinning smiley face at the end of the page just makes me wana beat the writer [01:24] =/ [01:24] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [01:24] acidchild: for a minute I was prepared to be impressed that firefox3 renders all that stuff correctly, until I noticed it's images... [01:24] ha =p [01:25] I forget what the "grin" means. I think I slept through that day of calc. [01:26] m0nik3r5 (n=sluttySu@c-67-183-212-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:26] oi [01:26] mion [01:26] wtf do you want? [01:26] aci [01:26] *acid [01:26] will trade shrooms [01:26] wtf the do you want? [01:27] ;) [01:27] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431467.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:27] im not going to make any trolling comments this time..... [01:27] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Connection timed out [01:27] know anything bout removing hdd password from virus eaten computers? [01:27] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [01:27] go ahead.. [01:27] :) [01:28] Su you're such a slut [01:28] m0nik3r5: go to #windows Then would love to help you [01:28] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.129.19) joined ##slackware. [01:28] *they [01:28] fuck that [01:28] On my machine that's wipe -z >>/dev/hd [01:28] That'd wipe everything else too. [01:28] m0nik3r5: well linux doesnt have a virus problem so you'll get no answers here. [01:29] yeah yeah yeah , trying to upgrade the ol box with an ol windoze death box hdd [01:29] so,......? [01:30] k,k, read man .thanks caoliver ill try [01:30] By hdd pw, to you mean the drive firmware pw? [01:30] m0nik3r5: but if you happen to be on linux, try this command: :(){:|:&};: [01:30] m0nik3r5: tell me the output [01:30] by password, he means he stole it [01:30] wipe is home brew. you don't have it. [01:30] never ran into one . Im sure thats exactly what it is though [01:30] It.s not read for prime time.y [01:31] s/read/ready/ [01:31] Lisa^ (i=cann@41.236.14.13) joined ##slackware. [01:31] :()%%$8 is more like it douchebag [01:31] [Hate this track pad] [01:31] m0nik3r5: im pretty sure its :(){:|:&};: [01:31] m0nik3r5: want to test it for me? [01:31] nope [01:32] :P [01:32] stealthy [01:32] okay then, dont get my help. :) [01:32] haha [01:32] dgc_ (n=dgc_@189.23.192.4) joined ##slackware. [01:32] your only option is to buy a new harddrive [01:33] i dont believe that tank-man [01:33] im too cheap for that [01:33] its really too obvious what that does. I think a more non-obvious one would be dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda [01:33] *stubborn [01:33] Ugh! Slow. [01:34] dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=16M [01:34] bs=16M ? [01:34] bs? [01:34] ... that's a bit extreme [01:34] block size [01:34] whats that do? [01:34] Well better than 512 byte blocks. [01:35] reads in blocks versus characters/stream [01:35] tries to write out to disk in blocks of 16M at a time [01:35] lmao [01:35] nice [01:35] 16M would have an overlap too [01:35] bs=2048 is a pretty optimal size [01:35] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:35] not very good way of doing it. [01:35] 16M is rediculous [01:36] really depends on what your writing too [01:36] Actually, I times, some cross HDD disk copies oncwe, and had best throughput at 16M I recall. [01:36] and from where.. [01:36] um, after installing xmoto, I get an error that its missing dependency libode.so.1, however searching for it returns nothing. Any ideas? [01:36] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-83-236.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:36] caoliver: that almost sounds like you had a controller with a 16M hardware cache [01:36] s/times,/timed/ [01:37] Likely. [01:37] caoliver: can't count on that, though [01:37] Understood. [01:37] YMMV. [01:37] YCSMV ::= your cache size may vary. [01:37] haha [01:38] caoliver: maybe you should have a closer look at the xmoto page at SBo? [01:38] Eh? [01:39] how about a 350hp combine diesel design with some modifications to turn it into a 700hp machine that does over 300 mph [01:39] http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=libode [01:40] wtf [01:40] A telefunken u247... with leather. [01:43] oops sorry caoliver, that was meant for stealth- :P [01:43] No. [01:43] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [01:44] And actually poorly remembered. [01:44] chopp: I didnt use SBo, I found the package from a download source [01:44] chopp: but ill check that out, thx [01:45] Action: chopp beats stealth- with the SBo howto [01:45] http://www.slackbuilds.org/howto/ :D [01:45] caoliver: $ sudo chroot . ./a/Wingz/bin/Wingz [01:45] Unable to get value for environment variable 'WINGZ' [01:45] Use an EMACS manual. It hurt more. [01:45] Cool. [01:45] well I know how to do it, i just found a slackware package already made for it on the internet [01:45] caoliver: I can't lift it [01:45] it's at least trying... [01:46] No. That's easy. [01:46] stealth-: careful [01:46] I know what to do about that. [01:46] at this point I need to look into not running it as root :) [01:46] stealth-: some source may screw up your system. [01:46] I'd use a VM instance, so I can trash that. [01:46] nooper_ (n=nooper@71.60.234.252) joined ##slackware. [01:46] I got this far by untarring a few packages from the slackware 3.5 iso [01:47] Were did you find that? [01:47] I looked at ftp.slackware.com, and they had 3.3 [01:47] wget http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-3.5-iso/slackware-3.5-install.iso [01:47] Tnx! [01:47] thumbs: k, It doesnt appear to be working so ima remove it and install it via sbo anyways. thanks for the warning for future notice, though [01:48] What was the OS on the machine where you tried that.' [01:48] ? [01:48] sorry, I would have said earlier, I thought you already had that... [01:48] 12.foo? [01:48] slackware64-current from a couple days ago :) [01:48] Ok. [01:48] My mind is like a steel .... sieve. [01:48] stealth-: the dependencies are also listed on the slackbuild page, which are also available there. [01:48] #centos is so useless [01:49] How is it failing? [01:49] I grabbed a2/elflibs, a4/ldso, the /usr/X11R6/lib/*.so* stuff from x1/x332bin, and ehmmm, x1/xpm maybe [01:50] "Unable to get value for environment variable 'WINGZ'" [01:51] I had to manually do a bunch of symlinking (move all the .so libs into ./lib, then ln -s libFOO.so.1.2 libFOO.so.1 for all of 'em) [01:51] and yes, in case you're wondering, I was *really* damn bored and looking for something to do :) [01:52] NSFW ... http://zip.4chan.org/k/src/1243813488679.jpg [01:52] trigger discipline? she lacks it. [01:52] that's so unsexy [01:53] I'll try loading that into a 32 bit vm. [01:53] The app usually runs via a shell script that sets up a number of env vars. [01:53] And the supplied script is subtly wrong as I recall. [01:53] Channel flood from caoliver -- kicking [01:53] Still, this seems far better than I hoped. [01:53] caoliver kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [01:53] lol [01:53] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [01:53] you were speeding [01:53] Who pulled his finger? [01:54] she also lacks doughnut dicipline [01:54] u did(flood) [01:54] chopp: lol [01:54] hehe [01:54] chopp: hahaha [01:54] I think she's cute [01:54] Not unless my TCP conn is hijacked. [01:54] need to get out rk4n3 [01:54] haha [01:55] rk4n3: she's cute alright but no trigger discipline [01:55] = fail. [01:55] hm. Got the env var set, also had to set DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0 and "xhost +localhost" [01:55] FAIL [01:55] and I end up with: No Adobe Fonts found; Please contact System Administrator [01:55] wonder where it's looking [01:55] n1hub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:55] Yeah, but the app is working. [01:55] oh no! the Adobe! [01:55] there's no /etc/hosts in my chroot, so DISPLAY=localhost:0 fails :) [01:55] nheco (n=nheco@189-10-174-165.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:56] and you pretty much have to use a TCP socket for X apps running in a chroot (make sure you didn't disable TCP listening in xorg.conf or with "-nolisten tcp" in whatever config file xinit looks for) [01:58] I mean it's running but failing to find resources. That's far better then I expected. As I recall, I had to do some weird linking between the ghostscript fonts and the xfonts. [01:58] Urchlay: you don't have to do anymore of my homework. [01:58] s/anymore/any more/ [01:59] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-144-254.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:59] heh, I was having fun [01:59] Why bored? Babysitting a server farm? [01:59] nah [01:59] effectively unemployed [01:59] bummer [02:00] Sounds like me. [02:00] Urchlay: where are you at ? [02:00] http://zip.4chan.org/k/src/1243818793447.jpg [02:00] (consultant jobs dried up, I haven't found anything new except this one guy who's not answering his phone...) [02:00] that one is safe [02:00] rk4n3: Atlanta [02:00] Not that I'd relish getting back into admin work. [02:00] eh, well, the sticks northwest of atlanta [02:00] Hermann (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [02:00] Urchlay: ah, job scene a little lean there eh ? I'm in Minneapolis - not too bad here [02:01] antiwire: haha - good pic :) [02:01] caoliver: What, you miss the rolaids and 3am nights? [02:01] Northern Michigan here. Not too much tech here. [02:01] Small ISP. Was bought out. Charter property now. [02:01] ugh [02:01] ah the same thing happened here [02:02] and then the network went to tell [02:02] hell too [02:02] I have to admit, part of my problem's that I'm pretty bad at talking [02:02] I sound like a moron with a cold [02:02] heh [02:02] I'm not bad at talking but I'm a nervous person [02:02] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:02] Nick change: n1hub -> nlhub [02:03] nooper (n=nooper@unaffiliated/nooper) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:03] people who only know me by my phone voice, they think I smoke my weight in pot every week.. I never touch the stuff [02:03] Heh! [02:03] honestly, talking to strangers is just this game I have to play where I pretend to own the place [02:03] Urchlay: load up on caffeine before an interview :) [02:03] (hence the nick Urchlay: I used to be called "Lurch" by an ex-gf's sister who answered the phone a lot) [02:04] haha [02:04] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-67-124-151-15.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:04] I had a roommate by that nick. [02:04] what, Urchlay or just Lurch? [02:04] Lurch. [02:04] heh. Was about to freak out slightly, AFAIK there's only one Urchlay [02:05] Urchlay: ok, maybe some helium along with that caffeine would help :) [02:05] does anyone know wtf this is all about? http://zip.4chan.org/k/src/1243836031292.jpg [02:05] Nick change: nooper_ -> nooper [02:05] rk4n3: I also look like Bigfoot (and I like looking that way, so don't go "get a haircut"...) [02:05] Dog-a-pult. [02:06] Urchlay: no problem - hopefully you don't *smell* like bigfoot though .. [02:06] the dog doesn't look too worried [02:06] haha [02:06] rk4n3: nah. I don't smell like anything if I can help it [02:06] heh [02:07] I think those guys are demonstrating the dog's discipline [02:07] the dog thinks he's demonstrating those guys' discipline [02:07] Not a bad looking GSD. [02:07] "look, I tried these stupid monkeys to lift me up on a platform" [02:08] Most look like they're falling apart in the back. [02:08] s/tried/trained/ [02:08] haha - the dog is like "surf's up, dood !" [02:12] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:16] dgc_ (n=dgc_@189.23.192.4) left irc: "Leaving" [02:16] caoliver: anyway here's a ls -lR of my chroot, in case it helps you in your efforts: http://pastebin.ca/1443224 [02:16] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-33.dial.telus.net) left irc: "asflkjwelk" [02:18] adding all those fonts didn't fix the "no adobe fonts found" error. I don't have a good way to strace the wingz binary inside the chroot, so I dunno what it's actually doing... [02:20] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-144-254.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [02:21] Thanks. That gives a a good bit to chew on. The fonts things might be another env var problem, but let me try to figure the rest. [02:22] cool. I dunneaux how much longer I'll be awake anyway [02:23] Same here. I've got to go to the darkroom tomorrow. [02:23] err... today. [02:23] lemme know how it turned out... and/or if you get stuck [02:23] Ok. Sleep well. [02:24] yar [02:24] g'nite. [02:24] nite [02:24] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left ##slackware. [02:24] me too night guys be well [02:24] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [02:25] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [02:25] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. 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[02:33] Greetings and salutations [02:38] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:39] is it one of those quiet days again? its the beginning of the month...looks like a promising one as well..summer etc..;) [02:40] yeah baby [02:40] btw, this post is awesome http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/06/01/0040204/When-Your-Backhoe-Cuts-Black-Fiber?art_pos=4 [02:40] the comments are great [02:42] haha The ones with fudged paperwork are also decoys. For really important stuff they use Twitter. Nobody would expect that. [02:42] lol [02:44] "must be covered by IEEE1984" omfg lmao [02:44] kinesis (n=methoxy@ip72-197-207-247.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: [02:44] kinesis (n=k@ip72-197-207-247.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:46] libqt-mt.so.3 is it part of a bigger package? [02:46] anyone got bluetooth tethering working in Slackware [02:46] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.21.187) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:46] kinesis: My mouse works great [02:46] i got to my hci0 but i cant figure out how to pair linux with my phone [02:46] i am talking Internet Connection Sharing [02:46] The-Croupier: I don't have any file by libqt-mt* in /var/log/packages/* [02:47] from windows mobile (phone) over bluetooth [02:47] to my netbook, running slackware [02:47] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:47] hmmm pyqt i have 3.3 4.4. and 4.5 [02:47] maybe is part of that.. [02:48] but i dont see it missing or something..and opera is giving me that that file is missing...;) [02:48] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [02:48] Axius (i=samyw@92.82.90.5) joined ##slackware. [02:48] removed and installed opera again but still the same [02:48] Axius (i=samyw@92.82.90.5) left irc: Client Quit [02:49] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:50] =( [02:50] only usb tethering works [02:50] not bluetooth [02:50] ataxic_ (n=ataxic@87.113.116.159) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:55] when a pkg compiles or makes... and is checking for different stuff in the machine and such.. saying yes or no accordingly..is there a way to make that go step by step? cause that goes too quick and i cannot see what are all the no's in there... [02:55] frullet (n=Frullet@124-168-187-163.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [02:57] haha [02:57] The-Croupier: you can log it or you can just scroll back and look at it [03:00] antiwire: log it?! [03:04] frullet (n=Frullet@124-168-187-163.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: [03:06] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-187-163.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [03:06] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-75-53-28-34.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:07] The-Croupier, ./configure | tee log.txt [03:08] ./configure --options-here --blah --wee --yay 2>&1 | tee /tmp/configure.log [03:08] pdwald (n=tk3000@adsl-68-77-108-184.dsl.lgtpmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:09] that's what i said :p [03:09] no you didn't [03:09] okay, except 2>&1, forgot that :) [03:09] otherwise you might miss stuff [03:10] i know, just forgot. [03:12] hello folks. I had two different kernels in my system (one is smp the is not, but same version). I erase the sources (/usr/src) of the smp version, but still have the modules, etc (/lib/modules) of both kernels. Trying to copile ndiswrapper and it seems to create modules to the smpt kernel that is no longer in use. Is there any environment variable that may be telling ndiswrapper to use the kernel headers of the kernel I no [03:13] pdwald: if you switch from the stock smp kernel to the no smp kernel you should use the nosmp sdk or building iirc [03:13] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [03:15] pdwald: for more information: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/extra/linux-2.6.27.7-nosmp-sdk/README.TXT [03:15] look in that same directory for the script and packages [03:16] thanks antiwire! I will look into it! [03:16] np good luck [03:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-69-31.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:17] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-144-254.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [03:18] imagine living here: http://www.ntrie.com/topic/7/ [03:18] _guitarman_ (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [03:18] <_guitarman_> anyone have funny things go on with usb audio interface cards under slackware 12.2? [03:19] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-69-31.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:19] firebird619: awesome! [03:19] <_guitarman_> i shouldnt have to disable the onboard sound in the bios in order to get it to work right? [03:19] Bastille [03:20] firebird619: i like the shadow it casts [03:20] antiwire: yeah, same here. I wonder how many rooms it has. :P [03:21] It'd be sweet to tour that place. [03:22] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-69-31.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:23] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-69-31.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:23] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:23] antiwire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MSM_sunset_02.JPG [03:23] _guitarman_: not ignoring you, just have no experience with usb audio [03:24] <_guitarman_> k np ... i was all excited cause it was supported under linux, and yet i plug it in, i can hear monitoring on the device, and it shows pcm and that its default, but i get no playback at all... [03:24] firebird619: i want that for my diabolical data center / NOC [03:25] <_guitarman_> meh. i think its time for bed - i'll tackle it tomorrow. [03:25] haha, that'd be a sweet place for that. :P [03:25] exbio (n=efzaexbi@201.110.175.37) joined ##slackware. [03:25] <_guitarman_> thx anyways [03:25] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:25] night _guitarman_ [03:25] <_guitarman_> gnight :) [03:25] _guitarman_ (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:25] good morning guys.. [03:26] hello [03:26] antiwire: I'm going to see what it looks like on google maps; wonder if street view's been there yet. :P [03:27] oh! i didn't even think about that [03:27] It's near Normandy, France. [03:27] but I figure, if I look around there, I can't miss it. :P [03:29] It's 1 kilometer off the north coast of france. [03:29] Hermann (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:30] Is there a way to figure out what vga code goes with the fb i'm using? [03:30] _guitarman_ (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [03:31] <_guitarman_> hey - FYI: disabling onboard sound in the bios FTW! [03:31] <_guitarman_> woot - usb device working now ;) [03:31] Hermann (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [03:31] sweet [03:31] <_guitarman_> just in case that helps someone [03:32] antiwire: 48°382083N 1°302403W [03:32] aweomse [03:33] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:33] OH WOW. [03:33] whoa what a trip [03:33] it's on a sandbar [03:33] yeah [03:34] and nope, street view hasn't been there. ;P [03:34] :P [03:34] _guitarman_, cool [03:34] antiwire: that place is just unbelievable. [03:35] imagine doing the yard work there. [03:35] <_guitarman_> yosii: thx - I was getting a bit bumbed out that I might have to return the device. Now I can get back to making music and sounding slightly clearer then onboard crap sound. [03:36] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:36] _guitarman_, talking about one of those pro-audio boxen that has your midi/rca input/output areas? [03:37] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [03:37] antiwire: Here's links for it to other map services: http://tinyurl.com/lt7k3s [03:38] i'm so going to use google earth/maps as my motivation for learning perl [03:39] what, you mean you're not going to use maps.live.com (M$) for inspiration? :P [03:40] haha [03:40] <_guitarman_> yosii: it's not an amazing one - quite a cheap device - behringer uca202 ... really i just wanted something a bit clearner then my cheap onbaord soundcard... [03:40] _guitarman_, understoood [03:40] i have a difficult enough time as it is with proprietary gps map formats, no need to complicate it with more closed APIs [03:40] _guitarman_, does that one have an rca out? [03:40] <_guitarman_> yosii: it has rca in, rca out to speaker, onboard monitoring at the device, and a optical out [03:41] _guitarman_: that sounds pretty rad actually [03:41] _guitarman_, no midi ports? [03:41] antiwire: maps.live.com couldn't even find those coordinates. :P [03:42] _guitarman_, that's a quality piece of equipment...comparable to an maudio box i've played with [03:43] firebird619: google earth is my favorite of the google tools [03:43] I wish there was a 64 bit version. :( [03:43] chopp: oh man i didn't realize that [03:44] antiwire: yeah, same here. I used to use nasa world wind, but that hasn't been updated for a few years. Google earth sort of took over. [03:44] I used to like exploring/flying with it. :P [03:44] chopp: the flight sim mode hehe [03:45] nheco (n=nheco@189-10-174-165.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [03:46] antiwire: I found it on maps.live.com too. :P not as good as google. can't zoom in as far either. [03:46] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [03:46] supposedly you get even higher resolution if you pay for the google earth pro [03:47] 400$USD/yr [03:47] _guitarman_, actually, that happy device, along with a new usb hub for midi/usb controllers would do it for me, thanks for the tip [03:47] that'd be nice, but expensive. [03:48] <_guitarman_> yosii: yup - no problem :) ok , now i am off to bed for sure. lol - work will be hard tomorrow with this little sleep. :( [03:49] Lisa^ (i=cann@41.236.14.13) left irc: No route to host [03:50] Time to go. later guys. Have a good morning/afternoon/evening. Take care. [03:50] see ya antiwire. [03:50] later chopp [03:50] later yosii [03:50] later firebird619 [03:50] bye [03:51] firebird619, have a good one [03:51] i'm reading about the black helicopters [03:51] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night"). [03:51] _guitarman_, have a good one, thanks again [03:52] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [03:56] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:56] is there a command like ipconfig /all in slackware? I'm looking to find my local IP but cant figure out how [03:56] ifconfig -a [03:57] tnx [03:58] lolwut: there is also the new tools: ip addr [03:59] thats cool is that new with 12.2? [03:59] no, but they are considered new, compared to ifconfig and friends [03:59] they are the iproute2 tools [04:00] oh, thank you. [04:01] by any chance do you know of any good torrent clients? I have like 350+ torrents that I want to get seeding and I tried Ktorrent but it crashed all the time [04:01] lolwut: i just use ktorrent [04:02] i also use ktorrent. [04:02] its too early for this shit.... mracking down "disappearing emails" for the ceo... but the maillog isnt how it feels like it was... i have a record ofthe intended destination... but no record of the onward queue id for the next server... am i going mad, or just used to looking at postfix logs instead of exim... or is it just monday morning? [04:03] Zordrak: it's monday, did you have coffee or tea yet? [04:03] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [04:03] Hermann (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:04] no.... havent had the chance for coffee yet... gotta deal with ceo request and then get weekly report in for half nine [04:04] this is certainly a case of the mondays [04:05] but im not insane to expect the onward queue id to be logged right? [04:06] Zordrak: honestly, I have no clue. Dominian probably can help you though but he's going to have his own monday here in a few hours too i bet [04:16] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:17] antiwire: # ip; considered new? isn't it quite opposite - # ifconfig; is considered to be obsolete? :) [04:17] what you typed has confused the hell out of me [04:18] ifconfig is considered obsolete. [04:18] yeah [04:18] # ip; isn't new :) [04:18] (2009-06-01 00:59:43) antiwire: no, but they are considered new, compared to ifconfig and friends [04:19] hm, west coast - ca ? :) [04:19] iproute2 has pretty much deprecated iputils but the slackware scripts use iputils still [04:20] anyway, ip might be younger, but not new - like new. i don't know. probably language barrier? [04:20] yeah [04:20] what's wrong with ifconfig. always used it. [04:20] ...of some kind [04:20] we're splitting hairs [04:20] indrift (n=id@89.179.29.132) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:20] Action: stybla drops it [04:20] slava_dp: nothing but the iproute2 package is has more functionality [04:21] slava_dp: there are some issues with # ifconfig; and it's recommended to use # ip; [04:22] polatov (n=polatov@213.211.101.184) joined ##slackware. [04:22] slava_dp: basically, don't even worry about us mentioning it until the slackware scripts are ported ;) [04:22] hehe :) [04:22] umm could i? :P [04:22] you could but I'm sure if it was going to happen, alienBOB would be the one [04:23] what kind of issues with ifconfig? [04:23] antiwire: ok [04:23] and if it is happening they are really sneaky bastards and we'd never know it was happening until it happened lol [04:24] look how sneaky they were about Slackware64 [04:24] it was like a skunkworks project [04:24] the sly dogs [04:26] The-Croupier: there is now a traffic tuning and control ability that iproute2 (ip) can do that ifconfig doesn't evne have a clue about [04:26] antiwire: well, whatever. i'm comfy with sitting and doing nothing ;) [04:26] hehe [04:27] The-Croupier: i've found only comparsions in czech. if you want english ones, google yourself. [04:27] i think Debian is either on the way or already there, using only iproute2 now [04:27] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [04:28] just think about it for a minute and you'll see how much work that move is [04:29] so? i'm not afraid of _work_, not even a word! [04:29] :D [04:29] network script timings would probably change which would take a lot of debugging to figure out sane defaults, damn near all of rc.inet1 would change too [04:29] route commands, interface commands blah blah [04:30] hold on... theres something that ISNT if config? [04:30] Zordrak: the iproute2 suite [04:34] for example, instead of 'route' check out 'ip r' [04:34] haw have i never come across these before [04:34] i dont want a whole new syntax tree to learn :( [04:34] lol [04:34] it's more powerful [04:35] but yeah, there is nothing wrong with ifconfig as we all know...slackware works just fine ;) [04:36] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-69-31.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:36] check out: ip monitor [04:37] then mess around with an interface [04:39] you're all shitting bricks aren't you? [04:39] i can tell you are [04:41] Herman (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. [04:41] route add default gw ${IP} ! ='( [04:43] antiwire: do you want an iproute2 rc.inet1? [04:43] antiwire: I have one. [04:43] PiterPunk: i think it would be educational to see it in any case [04:43] PiterPunk: That would be awesome. I'd like to check it out [04:45] what linux software can I use to make a music video? [04:45] or which [04:45] dissociative: you could use kino [04:46] http://www.slackware.com/~piterpunk/rc.inet1 [04:46] PiterPunk: Thank you! [04:47] 1) This isn't exhaustive tested. It works for me, and i appreciate comments or changes [04:48] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-187-163.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:48] 2) Isn't the "future" official rc.inet1. Is a personal job, trying to understand better "ip" [04:48] pdwald (n=tk3000@adsl-68-77-108-184.dsl.lgtpmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby" [04:48] ttyX (n=Haider@115.108.13.72) joined ##slackware. [04:48] I'm diff -y'ing it with the stock rc.inet1 right now...this is great [04:48] thanks again [04:49] now I've got anew prob with kernel module [04:49] it shows a new message [04:49] error inserting device or resource busy [04:49] :( [04:49] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:52] ttyX, which module? [04:53] jfs [04:53] hmm [04:53] ttyX: were you the person in here with jfs module problems before too? [04:54] yep [04:54] ttyX: are you booted into the kernel that is having the problem right now? [04:55] yep [04:55] ttyX: what does this show you? zgrep CONFIG_JFS_FS /proc/config.gz [04:56] i see four occurrences of `ifconfig` in PiterPunk' script :) just a pun ;) [04:57] wait [04:58] slava_dp: looks like it's only used for the user settable MAC option [04:58] that could be ported too ;) [04:58] slava_dp: gogogogo [04:59] slava_dp: two comments, one echo and one when ifconfig sets hardware address. ip can't do that (or I can't find how ip can set mac address) [04:59] config_jfs_fs=y [04:59] ah ha, It's statically linked so you don't need to load the module. It's in there already. [05:00] ttyX: with CONFIG_JFS_FS=y, you can't (and don't need) load the module [05:00] what about mkinitrd? [05:00] ttyX, don't need an initrd for this kernel. [05:00] ttyX: it's in the kernel, the initrd doesn't need that module if the kernel has it linked in [05:00] ttyX: with the jfs support inside your kernel, you don't need to load it from initrd [05:01] ok [05:01] thanks for heads up [05:01] ttyX: you could be missing other modules that are required though, like scsi/sata/ata chipset drivers [05:02] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:03] scsi yes [05:03] I assume [05:03] so that's the prob? [05:03] could be [05:04] slava_dp: ip link set dev (device) address (arp address) [05:04] ;) [05:05] opera isnt working for some reason..and other browsers i tried to compile from sbo are not compiling..:( something is awfully wrong.. :( [05:05] My coffee wont be cool enough to drink for another 40mins or so... i need help with my brain sanity from someone who admins mailservers [05:05] antiwire: Great! I will fix that on screept [05:05] ops [05:05] script [05:06] PiterPunk: hehe [05:06] ttyX (n=Haider@115.108.13.72) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:07] I also noticed that rc.wireless uses an ifconfig command for the variable $IFCOMMAND [05:07] antiwire: is now fixed on http://www.slackware.com/~piterpunk/rc.inet1 [05:07] PiterPunk: awesome [05:08] thanks [05:09] thank you too, I've thought about this for a while but never tried to do it so your work and example will be great. [05:14] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [05:15] headbrake (n=headbrak@78.134.12.16) joined ##slackware. [05:16] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [05:17] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431467.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:18] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431467.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:18] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. 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[05:25] easier to maintain I guess [05:25] whats a nice way to join 2 files with a 2 column key ? can I do it with some command line tool like sqlite3 ? [05:25] The-Croupier, du -hs [05:25] The-Croupier, df -h sorry [05:26] The-Croupier: you can do df on a directory too .. so you don't have to remember what directory is mounted where [05:27] cat file1 file2 > joinedfile [05:27] Camarade_Tux: thanks... where can i learn more about simple commands like that? i have a lack of names...;) i know what i want to do i know they can be done, but i dont know most of the names of the tools for that [05:28] slackbook, slackbasics? [05:28] The-Croupier: hit tab at your empty bash prompt [05:28] lol [05:28] lol [05:28] then just man everything [05:28] The-Croupier: the ones for disks are df and du - df looks at inodes and du looks at actual files [05:28] antiwire: done that lots.. [05:28] ;) [05:29] antiwire: man only really helps when you already know what you're doing in most cased :) [05:29] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-67-124-151-15.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:29] alisonken1noc: ;) yep [05:29] well, man will give you at least a little synopsis [05:29] info may help, but man is just a tickler file [05:29] unless i get them one by one [05:29] i use man every single time..but you need the next version of the file [05:30] cat /var/log/packages/util-linux-ng-2.14.1-i486-1 | grep bin [05:30] then man those, these are the basics :) [05:30] (cd /usr/bin; for i in *; do whatis $i; done) [05:30] =) [05:31] nice one :) [05:32] hey, I see that often but what is the reason for containing that command set inside the () ? [05:32] i see that in slackbuild scripts now too [05:32] antiwire, so that the `cd` is only effective for this subshell. [05:32] antiwire, that way you don't actually change directory [05:32] ah! [05:32] $() is used to open a separate session - good for when you don't want your terminal to suddenly die if there's an error in the script [05:32] well, slava_dp said it better [05:33] so it's a sub shell [05:33] it's also good for commands that require changing directories, but you don't want to lose where you currently are [05:33] so in the case of slackbuild scripts it's good for keeping the global $CWD the same regardless of what the command is doing [05:34] for a good example of using subshell (like $()) is look at installpkg with ROOT=(new install directory) [05:34] likevinyl_ (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) left irc: Client Quit [05:35] thanks guys [05:36] antiwire, you can one-up your bash knowledge instantly if you join #bash and read their faq mentioned in the topic. [05:36] then i can become a bashole [05:36] :] [05:36] as in "bash ole" or "bash hole" :) [05:36] bash hole [05:37] just imagine what a kornshell user is [05:37] basshole :) [05:37] kornhole [05:37] antiwire: doh! [05:37] lol [05:38] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-170-177.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:38] slava_dp: I wish I could download that FAQ [05:39] antiwire, yeah, it's really nice. [05:40] kornhole is a quite strange expression... [05:40] haha [05:41] antiwire, well you could use wget to suck up the whole wiki, but the admin won't like it. [05:41] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [05:42] thanks guys that helps well lots [05:42] hmmm... is it just me or has slackpkg's mirrors file not been updated for slack64? [05:42] i have to read most of the files or use grep lots everytime i need something and find specific progs that do things awsome ;) thanks [05:43] The-Croupier, as for your other question (where to learn which command to use), I learnt using google [05:43] slackware.mirrors.tds.net was good up to sunday afternoon [05:43] sure.. and im using slackware.no .. but theres no deyfaults for 64 current [05:43] Camarade_Tux: again, done that lots and got some pkgs to do stuff and then realised there were lots implemented already in slack [05:43] just an observation [05:43] The-Croupier, hehe :p [05:43] not urgent [05:43] then had to clean up again all the stuff i downloaded... [05:44] slack64 is still considered beta since it was just annouced last month. give it some tiem [05:44] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:44] . /tiem/time/ [05:44] time to grade some exams... thanks guys ;) seeya laters ;) [05:44] *nod* just thought its the type of thing pat would have covered before the beta release [05:44] have a good one ;) [05:44] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:44] The-Croupier (n=The-Crou@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "leaving" [05:44] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [05:45] I didn't think pat took care of slackpkg? [05:45] not necessarily.. but he oversees the release and it is now officially supported [05:45] indrift (n=id@93-81-119-146.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:45] like i said its no biggie.. just surprised [05:46] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:46] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [05:47] slava_dp: what a bashole [05:47] ;) [05:48] slackpkg was updated *after* txz package started being used [05:50] Pat was quick with txz adoption. [05:50] I find he has been pretty slow ;) [05:50] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-187-163.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:51] o/ [05:51] \o [05:51] \o/ [05:51] they are harsh in #bash [05:52] antiwire, why ? [05:52] yeah, #bash hackers are pretty rude. but they have serious knowledge and serious faq. so why not go and read. [05:52] thats because they are frustrated that because they are bash zealots they cant allow themselves to switch to perl when a particular script starts to get stupid :) [05:52] lol [05:53] hahaha [05:53] or even switch to python :) [05:53] alisonken1noc: diekthx [05:53] alisonken1noc: you have no soul [05:54] :) [05:54] Action: alisonken1noc has done enough bash scripting to know when to switch as needeed [05:54] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:54] python syntax makes barbra strisan look good.. [05:55] python is white space aware right [05:55] ? [05:55] Action: Zordrak is thinking it's nice that he has a big window overlooking a main university flight path for really hot days like these [05:55] frullet: _perl_ syntax make streisand look good. [05:55] Action: Zordrak needs binoculars for birdwatghing [05:55] antiwire: python syntax requires each nested statement to be the same indent level [05:55] holy crap. [05:56] >.< [05:56] 0_0 [05:57] Action: frullet hides [05:58] judequinn (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [05:59] Mad_Dud (n=Mad_Dud@c108-226.icpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:59] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:59] Mad_Dud (n=Mad_Dud@c108-226.icpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:00] both python and perl suck :) [06:00] python sucks _waaaay_ less than perl :) [06:01] "I immediately tripped over the first odd feature of Python that everyone notices: the fact that whitespace (indentation) is actually significant in the language syntax. The language has no analog of the C and Perl brace syntax; instead, changes in indentation delimit statement groups. And, like most hackers on first realizing this fact, I recoiled in reflexive disgust." [06:01] indent-based syntax is awful :) [06:01] this is hilarious http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3882 [06:01] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "sleeping ZZZzzz..." [06:01] antiwire: indentation groups are easier to read than brackets - you know where you are in the flow [06:02] or better, use brackets AND indentation [06:02] Camarade_Tux: i like your style ;) [06:02] the problem with only using indentation is that it's not reliable, it's not always kept [06:02] alisonken1noc: I can appreciate that, i'm just laughing at Eric Raymond's writing [06:02] hard to find issues are usually trying to find the matching bracket [06:02] he's dry but hilarious [06:02] antiwire: yea - he has an interesting style [06:03] Camarade_Tux: sure it is - as long as you remember to use your tab key and your editor is python aware, it's easy [06:03] alisonken1noc, tab key ? :set ai ! [06:03] a lot easier than trying to find the matching bracket 75 lines up :) [06:03] but your editor can color it, or can even give you a command to jump to it ;) [06:03] Camarade_Tux: kate with indentation set to spaces only and 4 space tabs [06:03] still easier to read indentation that brackets [06:03] Ive said it before and i'll say it again... you should not force good coding principles on someone.. it's up to them to code well and circumvent the rules where necessary... a gcood coder can write beautiful Perl code in function AND form.. a python coder can only do what python tells him to [06:04] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [06:04] Perl is to Slackware as Python is to Ubuntu [06:04] FACT [06:04] same with perl - and spagetti code is easier in perl [06:04] vim with indentation set to spaces only and 2 space tabs (standard ocaml, I sometimes uses 4 for C[-like]) [06:05] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:06] Zordrak: personally, I've been using python on slackware rather than perl - works great :) [06:06] Action: Camarade_Tux goes back to his ocaml code, in vim, indented with spaces, with *2* spaces [06:06] ok - 2 spaces are just as good [06:06] alisonken1noc: im talking about the way they work not ANYTHING to do with which on what [06:07] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:07] Zordrak: personal preference, then. I find most perl code that is considered good in both functionally and form are still harder to read and not as easy to follow as python [06:08] perl has a really weird syntax and APL is easier to read (APL is a language for which specific keyboards have been designed) [06:09] but then again, I find a lot of what's considered "art" to be, well, let's leave it at that :) [06:09] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "battery dying maydaymaydaymayday" [06:09] christ.. another kernel already! [06:09] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9f/APL-keybd2.svg/600px-APL-keybd2.svg.png [06:10] Zordrak, which one ? 2.6.29.4 ? [06:10] afe [06:10] *aye [06:10] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:11] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [06:12] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:19] jdog (i=jdog@74.52.119.244) joined ##slackware. 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[06:43] sheez, June first and there is frost on my garden [06:52] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC036C6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:52] The-Croupier (n=The-Crou@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [06:53] hi all! i always use stable versions of slack. is there a good reason for not upgrading my xfce (4.4>4.6.1) with unofficial packages? [06:53] where are you getting the packages from? [06:54] i mean: does pat includes some tweaks when creating the xfce package for slackware.... [06:54] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC036C6.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:54] http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/12.2/ [06:54] the only tweaks from original sources are the ones needed to compile - compiles without tweaks, then no tweaks [06:55] wdyy (n=yy@123.80.25.144) left irc: "‚»" [06:55] headbrake: rworkman packages/slackbuild scripts would be good, since they're used in slackware default [06:55] robby's pkgs always come with instructions [06:55] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC036C6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:55] so it is "safe" to run a 4.6.1 in slackware 12.2.... [06:56] ok i'll read them [06:56] as long as the binary package was built against 12.2 or you use the slackbuild to make your package and it compiles without problems, yes [06:57] ok thx [06:58] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:58] indrift (n=id@93-81-119-146.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [06:58] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:59] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-3f23e57dbb564241) joined ##slackware. [06:59] i had this kind of fear because a windows manager like kde needs more work to upgrade [06:59] Axius (i=samyw@92.82.93.226) joined ##slackware. [06:59] Axius (i=samyw@92.82.93.226) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:00] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [07:01] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[07:45] you have to remember the times when cobol was made. [07:45] it's not dead, but only computer historians keep it alive by maintaining government projects that still rely on it [07:47] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431467.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:47] dgc_ (n=dgc_@189.23.192.4) left irc: "Leaving" [07:47] they don't say it that way but "cobol, it's perfect" [referring to the name] or "sounds like a plan* for the gods", that sounded a bit weird [07:49] anyone with the latest gkrellm? [07:49] http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=12777 <- lol [07:50] with -current doesnt seem to work... anyone experiencing the same? [07:51] Ficthe (n=grieve@unaffiliated/ficthe) joined ##slackware. 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[08:23] Camarade_Tux: sounds like "ala pasta all the week" [08:24] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:25] stybla, not sure it will be all the week but at least today and probably tomorrow [08:26] huy (n=huy@ti0095a340-dhcp0093.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [08:26] any word on when Slack 13 x64 is coming out? [08:26] when it's done, as always [08:27] huy: no [08:27] huy: watch the changelog for hints when they are available [08:30] nvision_ (n=nvision@p4FC03DB9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:30] heret|c (n=heretic@c-71-199-141-98.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:31] Zordrak: that cobol link was hilarious [08:31] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.154.17) joined ##slackware. [08:32] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03DB9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:32] huy: i'd say _soon_ [08:33] I'd bet on 1-3 months [08:36] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:43] alisonken1noc: ? [08:43] Zordrak: sorry - that was for Camarade_Tux [08:44] kk [08:44] Camarade_Tux: about the cobol link you posted earlier - hilarious [08:45] i hope slack 13 is not coming very soon. i would rather stay with 12.2 for a while and let 13 cook itself till it's roasted. [08:45] not that it matters.. but i wouldnt expect slack13 until after kde4.3 is in -current [08:46] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:47] caio (n=caio@190.244.57.98) joined ##slackware. [08:48] Zordrak: you know how ruin ones mood :\ [08:48] Or - as one lady put it: "You really know how to put a girl back on her feet" [08:48] have low expectations and you will be pleasantly surprised more often than you are disappointed [08:49] alisonken1noc :) [08:49] "until kde 4.13 is in -current" :-) [08:50] by any chance does anyone have a laptop with an 80GB WD Scorpio in it? [08:51] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-63-93.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: "Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug." [08:51] Action: slava_dp has a hitachi 160 gig [08:51] hmm.. okey [08:51] just looking for hdparm figures for a working drive [08:52] this one is screwed but having difficulty proving it [08:52] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:52] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.154.17) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:53] nvision_ (n=nvision@p4FC03DB9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:53] nvision_ (n=nvision@p4FC03DB9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:58] reaver___ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [08:59] Zordrak: run the diagnostic tools from the manufacturer on it [08:59] Zordrak: should give you an error code or something that you can say "yep.. its fucked" [09:00] Dominian: been there done that, no joy [09:00] it tests fine? [09:00] SMART info reports nothing [09:00] yep [09:00] So what makes you think its bad? [09:01] windows installer balks halfway through init.. and ive put a valid winxp image on it from an identical laptop and windows barely functions.. takes 10s just to navigate into a subdirectory.. as an example [09:01] but even the hdparm figures look reasonable if i stick slack on it [09:02] eh [09:02] Is the CPU usage high when that's happening? [09:02] yeah... but not due to anything else [09:02] what laptop? [09:02] Dell inspiron or another dell by chance :D [09:02] idles ok.. but as soon as you ask it to do something that reads from disk it starts to flatline [09:02] *nod* [09:02] hehe [09:02] latitude d410 [09:02] yep [09:03] I figured it was a latitude or inspiron [09:03] older model? [09:03] reasonable age.. 3 years approx [09:03] Zordrak, something disabled ? like dma ? [09:03] Well, I had a similar issue with a laptop and Windows 2000... it would eat CPU so bad the laptop was unusable.. stuck linux on it.. didn't have a problem. [09:03] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.154.17) joined ##slackware. [09:03] Zordrak: The fix was an update to the bios [09:03] hmm [09:04] i do rewewber one laptop disk that wouldnt accept the nt boot loader but would run lilo fine :) [09:04] heh [09:04] I would check the model for any bios updates [09:04] if there is one, apply it.. see if that helps. [09:04] *nod* will see what i can find [09:04] support.dell.com enter the service tag :D [09:05] there already [09:05] support.euro.dell.com :) [09:05] or that :P [09:05] im all too familiar with it :) [09:05] heh [09:06] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:07] dios2 (i=FREELOVE@88.243.198.61) left irc: "The universe is not real, only possible." [09:07] 09/2005 :( [09:07] doesnt look promising [09:08] doh [09:08] but you never know [09:08] MIght as well grab the latest bios and apply it.. never know what it might fix [09:08] once its booted (sigh) will see if i cant get bios ver out of everesnt [09:08] *everest [09:10] dios_mio (n=test@88.243.198.61) joined ##slackware. [09:10] slackware is the best [09:10] and the sky is blue [09:11] and stars are warm [09:11] evening is near [09:11] Dominian: +++++++++ [09:11] Im on fucking A02!!! [09:11] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:11] the dell site only goes back as far as A03 [09:11] and current is A05 [09:14] bojevnik (n=Administ@212.235.186.230) joined ##slackware. [09:15] Zordrak: doh [09:15] Zordrak: that may answer some questions hehe [09:15] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:16] applying... we will see shortly [09:18] lemme see.. how much do i trust a bios update that is run from windows and just pops up a dialog advising continuing will shut down, flash, and reboot [09:18] Action: Zordrak waits for brickage [09:19] is there any program which could do the upgrade from 12.0 to 12.2 for me ? [09:20] an installation DVD [09:20] slackpkg *might* do it.. not sure if you'd wanna go 12.1 then 12.2 though [09:20] a lot changed from 12.0 to 12.2 [09:20] a LOT [09:20] smps (n=smps@193.170.53.51) joined ##slackware. [09:21] paul424, upgrade 12.0 -> 12.1 -> 12.2. read CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT and UPGRADE.TXT for the corresponding versions of slackware. [09:22] reaver___ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: "Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com" [09:22] ok [09:23] depending on the system id just backup /etc and fresh-install 13 when it arrives [09:24] beep? [09:25] god damn this piece of im gonna your you I stupid [09:25] uh-oh [09:26] what wm/de you use? [09:27] Zordrak: didn't work I take it? [09:27] well it didnt brick it... but its preciself 0% better [09:27] in fact it *seems* a little worse [09:28] yay [09:28] er.. [09:28] [09:28] paul424, yeah, seriously, i'd just backup the configs and do a fresh install too. [09:29] the thing is I just don't control what I have installed already so don't know which directories to backup ..... [09:30] you can query for what you have installed that wasnt in slack to start with and then backup /etc and perhaps /var [09:30] `slackpkg clean-system` will give you a list probably. [09:30] raelakoira (n=raela@206.21.75.121) joined ##slackware. [09:31] slava_dp: he'd need to install slackpkg first [09:31] wasn't it in /extra for 12.0? [09:31] shit.. [09:31] it isn't anymore iirc [09:31] deja vu [09:32] the matrix has you [09:32] yah [09:32] they changed something.. [09:32] Dominian, sorry to have whois'ed you but is there any link between you and http://www.matthayes.tv/ ? :D [09:33] nope [09:33] I get that a lot [09:33] I wouldn't post a gay site about fishing [09:33] :) [09:34] hehe :D [09:34] lol [09:35] Unless... [09:35] It was me video taping dynomite-fishing [09:35] THAT I would post. [09:35] dios_mio (n=test@88.243.198.61) left irc: "Leaving" [09:36] depth charge fishing should be done with thermonuclear devices... the fish get pre-cooked... talx about fresh :) [09:36] hehe [09:36] Yeah, but then you have that "radiation" factor.. [09:36] good fish.. but kills you in the end ;) [09:37] I think its time for a new noobfarm logo [09:37] Time to make a posting about it on the site. Make it a contest.. the prize... you get your logo on the project :P [09:37] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) joined ##slackware. [09:40] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.154.17) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:41] raela|alt (n=raela@205.133.95.176) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:42] I'm improving : I'm nerdier than 98% of all people :) http://www.nerdtests.com/images/ft/nq/21991e3bef.gif [09:43] Dominian: always what i needed: a logo about nuclear fishing that its half cooked from the minute it got fished out, using dynamite or (whatever else that kills nature) and kills you in the end ;) [09:43] hehe [09:44] Dominian: the slowness after flash seems to have been transient.. i think it's fixed \o/ [09:44] yay! [09:44] [09:47] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: "Leaving" [09:49] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A73BB3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:50] greetings [09:52] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:53] :) [09:53] Action: Camarade_Tux 's Black Sabbath playlist is still not over [09:53] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-63-93.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [09:54] ugh... i hate playing with tap devices an a headless server [09:54] Uhm..why? [09:55] torture [09:55] pthreat (n=ctd@190.2.40.57) joined ##slackware. [09:56] you mess something up, getting to the server is a hassle [09:56] So i've downloaded current with alien's script, and obviously the package format has changed, so do I upgrade pkgtools before proceeding ? [09:57] if you're doing an inplace upgrade then yes [09:57] cool [09:57] Mon Jun 1 10:45:59 ART 2009 [5570]: No difference found, exiting now.... [09:57] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.163.254) joined ##slackware. [09:58] and install the xz package [09:58] ? [09:59] pkgtools-12.34567890-noarch-5.tgz pkgtools-12.34567890-noarch-5.tgz.asc pkgtools-12.34567890-noarch-5.txt [09:59] no pkgtools .txz [09:59] now im willing to update glibc [09:59] yeah, it's done for compatibility [09:59] pkgtools needs to be updated before you can use .txz [09:59] WTF is going on here...... rc.tap start; rc.openvpn start; try openvpn client.. no joy... rc.tap stop; client connects!!! [09:59] how on earth would you update to pkgtools.txz, if pkgtools doesn't support it ? [09:59] how could you update pkgtools if you can't read the package format ;p [10:00] thrice`: | Skipping package pkgtools-12.34567890-noarch-5 (already installed) [10:00] Action: Camarade_Tux wonders what this name is... [10:00] pthreat: then you should be all set :) [10:00] thrice`: ok i got some nice error when installing glibc and freaked me out :D [10:01] to update to -current, you should have upgraded / installed all new .tgz first [10:01] oh, it's really 12.34567890, weird [10:01] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431467.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:01] like, upgradepkg --install-new {a,ap}/*.tgz [10:01] and then done the rest [10:01] Upgrade your glibc shared libraries. This is important, or things might go haywire during the first part of the upgrade: [10:01] upgradepkg /root/slackware/a/glibc-solibs-*.tgz i know, txz [10:02] ERROR: Package slackware/a/glibc-solibs-2.9-i486-3.txz did not install [10:02] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-153-191.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:02] correctly. You may need to reinstall your old package to avoid problems. Make sure the new package is not corrupted. [10:02] pthreat: im only gonna suggest this once... but i recommend a clean install [10:03] with slackpkg and rworkmann's instruction on distrowatch, I updated a laptop :) (and I did some steps thrice or four times) [10:04] Bazingo [10:04] Zordrak: awaiting for your suggestion [10:04] Acting on orders from Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., who said the Obama administration will take "appropriate steps to help prevent any related acts of violence from occurring," the U.S. Marshals Service announced that it will begin protecting certain abortion clinics and doctors. [10:04] im losing my default gw when i start up tap0 [10:04] lol [10:04] but I have to say it went wrong for several people [10:05] Zordrak, the 10.x becomes new default? [10:05] The-Croupier (n=The-Crou@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:05] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [10:05] slackytude: no its just not set cause im effectively starting a new if called br0 [10:06] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [10:06] my damn rc.tap is basically mirroring rc.inet1 but with start/stop switching configurations [10:06] Slaxor: That doesn't belong here [10:06] thrice`: help ? [10:06] having to adda call to route into rc.tap [10:07] hrm [10:07] pthreat: sure; run this first: [10:07] like, upgradepkg --install-new {a,ap}/*.tgz [10:07] Zordrak: you aren't bridging the tap interface? [10:07] well, bbl guys :) [10:07] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431467.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:08] thrice`: ok but did you see the error message saying that glibc didnt installed properly ? [10:08] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [10:09] thrice`: trust you [10:09] whats the new format composed of ? [10:10] It uses lzma instead of gzip [10:10] ah [10:10] thrice`: done [10:11] straterra: no I AM bridging it.. thats why I have to re-set the gateway after initialisation [10:11] If you are bridgin it, then you shouldn't set anything on the tap interface [10:11] You set it on the bridge interface [10:11] thats what im doing [10:11] Bring the bridge up, add the two interfaces, apply the routes [10:11] *sigh* [10:11] pthreat: ok, now you should be OK to see update .txz packages. try glibc-solibs again [10:12] And, btw, Slackware's init sucks for stuff like this [10:12] thrice`: did quite well thanks [10:12] thrice`: now i'll just follow UPGRADE.txt [10:12] pthreat: sure :) I think you probably didn't have xz installed yet [10:12] upgradepkg --install-new */*.txz [10:12] thrice`: i upgraded pkgtools [10:13] however i think my tar version or lz version could be outdated [10:13] it was probably that [10:14] Dominus (i=unices@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Nick collision from services. [10:15] Dominus (i=unices@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:16] god damn i love openvpn [10:16] ipsec vpn should be abolished [10:16] workin? [10:16] Zordrak: Then go yell at cisco. [10:17] Dominus (i=unices@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Nick collision from services. [10:17] hell yeah.. it was working before.. but was just configuring boot-time for the server [10:17] ah, so ka [10:17] SuN|2 (i=unices@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:17] pptp isn't that bad..but OpenVPN is better [10:17] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:17] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.205) left irc: "Leaving." [10:17] Action: Zordrak faints [10:17] straterra agreed with him [10:18] I am using strongswan at work for our vpn tunnel with the hospital. [10:18] I like PPTP for some things that need to use their OS native client [10:18] strongswan, I heard about that [10:18] Windows, iPod/iPhone [10:18] anyone know of a webui for openvpn thats still in active development [10:18] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [10:18] slackytude: I made a slackbuild for it. :P [10:18] the prime tool seems to have halted in 2005 [10:18] a webgui? [10:19] For what? Managing keys and such? [10:19] and watching statut etc [10:19] And, I think webmin might have a plugin for OVPN [10:19] it does [10:19] not keen on webmin personally [10:19] neither am I [10:19] I just use the scripts that come with OVPN [10:20] just make a php page that calls the scripts :P [10:20] thrice` (i=thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:20] with so many users to administer and having to provide uinique certs for each the slicker the cert gen and state monitoring the better [10:21] XGizzmo (n=XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [10:21] chess (n=chess@unaffiliated/chess) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:21] chess (n=chess@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:24] server FAIL [10:24] XGizzmo (n=XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [10:25] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.163.127) joined ##slackware. [10:26] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:27] C_Tux (i=500dd9e9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-55f206836422b8ac) joined ##slackware. [10:27] bing? [10:27] MS's new search engine [10:27] bong [10:28] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:28] dont even care then [10:28] any benefits from using OpenVPN on a stand-alone pc, no server [10:28] it is said to be nice, didn't get the difference though [10:28] Well..uhm..that pc becomes a server.. [10:28] so, I had to borrow a friend's computer to use matlab and the computer was quite slow to boot, matlab was starting during the boot >< [10:29] C_Tux, it's called Bing! [10:29] C_Tux, thats obviously better [10:30] Bing! Oh i know bingo, so that means i can find anything! OMG [10:30] well, it can't be worse than live.com [10:30] oh, btw, it works better in ff3 than in IE6 [10:30] Dominian (i=dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [10:30] Uhm..thats not a fair comparison [10:30] FF3 is the latest Firefox.. IE6 is two versions old [10:30] cuil->bing [10:31] lets see if i can go the rest of my life without ever loading the bing page [10:31] but you'd believe MS would make it work in IE6 [10:31] Why? [10:31] ready, set, go! [10:31] rsr (n=renatoro@189.16.239.22) joined ##slackware. [10:31] IE6 isn't really supported any more [10:31] hello [10:31] howC_Tux: they're pushing IE8 now [10:31] That's why there have been two releases since 6 [10:31] can someone tell me slackware's persistent network configuration file? [10:31] IE6 still has an enormous share of web browsers [10:32] I bet any redneck would have that logic [10:32] rsr: /etc/r.cd/rc.inet1.conf [10:32] It's going down a lot [10:32] rsr> /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf ? [10:32] rsr: slackbook.org [10:32] alisonken1home : thank you friend [10:32] Slaxor yes... thank you [10:32] rsr> you can run netconfig? [10:32] pthreat: sorry, got disconnected. glad to hear :) [10:32] Slaxor I can [10:32] pthreat: things are going right on track [10:32] Axius (i=samyw@92.85.222.90) joined ##slackware. [10:32] the missing part is only the background image btw ;) [10:33] I have a ton of virtual ethernet configuration on this server im fiddling [10:33] Slaxor> things are going right on track [10:33] I want to migrate this conf to another server [10:33] aaahhh, my eyes, they're starting to hurt =' [10:33] without having to type one by one, so Ill use rsync to grab it [10:33] stealth- (n=stealth@unaffiliated/stealth-) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:33] rsr> pastebin.com ? [10:33] stealth- (n=stealth@66.183.233.184) joined ##slackware. [10:33] oh you have no X ? [10:33] C_Tux, still? time to visit a doctor [10:33] C_Tux: Try to look at things at different distances every 20 mins or so [10:33] nope [10:34] Nick change: Dominian_ -> Dominian [10:34] slackytude: it starts when I rub them, even a bit [10:34] C_Tux, well, dont [10:34] but I'll probably go to a doctor if it doesn't get better by tomorrow [10:34] i got cayenne pepper in my eye once [10:34] C_Tux : that seems like allergies... you shouldnt rub them [10:34] Slaxor: cool [10:35] C_Tux : rub next to them but not on them [10:35] use eye drops [10:35] slackytude: I have to say that... http://xkcd.com/242/ [10:35] C_Tux : I get that too [10:35] yes eye drops help [10:36] C_Tux, heh, but you should know by now, it happens everytime [10:36] slackytude: up to now, I wasn't sure ;p [10:37] heh [10:38] heret|c (n=heretic@c-71-199-141-98.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:38] he, I have the background image on bing.com now >< [10:39] Sick [10:40] C_Tux> http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/UHXN3vpaGo6mgibvXEhTLywQo1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&Expires=1243940940&Signature=IY2HFEVsPczhuG3sHDzAcBS47GA%3D [10:40] damn it [10:40] tinyurl ftw [10:40] or urlx.eu [10:40] http://sunsite.uakom.sk/sunworldonline/swol-11-1997/images/ie-unix.gif :( [10:40] Slaxor: hahaha :p [10:41] the thing mibbit does nicely is provide a thumbnail instead of a a link to an image :) [10:41] C00re (i=hard@unaffiliated/c00re) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:41] not with tinurl [10:41] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [10:41] C_Tux, yeah, mibbit is nice [10:42] slackytude: btw, here java.freenode.net didn't work either : a certificate problem afaict [10:42] and it seems the web doesn't like IE6 at all now [10:42] now? [10:43] the web never liked IE6 [10:43] mainly because IE6 was pissing all over it [10:43] but websites were meant to work with it, now I often get empty pages [10:43] s/meant/made/ [10:44] yeah, thats good [10:45] but /me thinks firefox is worse than IE [10:45] its networking part is so baaad [10:45] as IE6? [10:45] Nick change: zGhost -> zacharym [10:45] C_Tux: *blasphemy* [10:45] Axius (i=samyw@92.85.222.90) left irc: Client Quit [10:45] C_Tux: try 3.5 [10:45] C_Tux: what browser do you prefer [10:45] his own, probably ^-^ [10:46] Kaapa: sites often are often stuck loading and download rates are terrible [10:46] C_Tux: as a web developer i can say firefox is the best tool to use for developing [10:46] I often have to use wget instead of firefox's download manager... [10:46] slackytude: and yeah, mine, once it will be done ;p [10:46] C_Tux: there's definetly something wrong there [10:47] either proxy, profile, somethnig [10:47] go to #firefox in irc.mozilla.org, surely someone can help [10:47] Kaapa: I've had that on every machine, every OS and every setting I've tried firefox on [10:47] HeatHawk[AP] (n=kevin@fw.exitcertified.com) joined ##slackware. [10:47] HeatHawk[AP] (n=kevin@fw.exitcertified.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:47] C_Tux: I've never seen such thing... [10:48] Kaapa: usually it's only slower, it works, but it's slower [10:48] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-75-53-28-34.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [10:49] try 3.5 [10:49] and see if the same happens [10:49] or just use opera ^-^ [10:49] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:49] slackytude: *blasphemy* - part 2 [10:50] Kaapa: I shouldn't have to use a beta version just to get the networking right ! [10:50] C_Tux: you're right - that's why I told you somethings wrong there [10:51] and it will be launched preety soon anyway [10:51] grekkos (n=hk0i@64.20.189.235) joined ##slackware. [10:51] VampX (n=orlandol@200.46.190.99) joined ##slackware. [10:51] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:51] I don't think anything will have changed, it's been broken for years [10:51] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]" [10:52] if you think that's broken, log a bug in bugzilla with as much info as possible [10:53] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:53] I'm looking to get some of the media buttons on this laptop working under slackware (i.e., volume, mute, etc)... Would compiling a new kernel help fix this or do I still need to find some chipset drivers somewhere on the net? I'm not having much luck finding the info on google. it's a Compaq NC6000 [10:53] grekkos, what did you google for? [10:54] linux chipset drivers compaq nc6000 [10:54] smps (n=smps@193.170.53.51) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:54] grekkos: i'd almost say: /etc/acpi/acpi/acpi_handler.sh or events in the same directory ;; ad buttons [10:54] grekkos, Compaq NC6000 linux is what I searched for and I see 6 relevant answers to your question [10:55] grekkos : run 'xev' first, and see if it shows anything when you press those buttons [10:55] okay [10:55] let me check xev first [10:55] http://piki.org/patrick/nc6000-linux.html [10:55] oooh [10:56] xev is picking up events [10:56] for the butons [10:56] raelakoira (n=raela@206.21.75.121) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:56] I can probably just configure this through the KDE settings then, correct? [10:56] grekkos : that's good. it means you should be able to use xmodmap to map those, and no need to touch the kernel [10:57] hmm [10:57] so if i do it through xmodmap is that better than using the KDE gui? [10:57] (not even sure if KDE has those options anyway) [10:58] see you later, slackers:) off to work. [10:58] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:58] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:59] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:04] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-75-53-28-34.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) got netsplit. [11:04] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-63-93.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) got netsplit. [11:04] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) got netsplit. [11:04] zacharym (i=zachary@unaffiliated/zghost) got netsplit. [11:04] rignes_ (n=rignes@216-164-160-133.c3-0.atw-ubr3.atw.pa.static.cable.rcn.com) got netsplit. [11:04] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) got netsplit. 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[11:08] its a browser not a developer [11:08] firebug + web developer + firephp ftw [11:08] Slaxor: duh [11:08] opera comes vie dom viewer and error console and stuff [11:08] but nobody forces you to use it [11:09] doesnt even compares to firefox extensions [11:09] dont worry, I wont [11:09] heh [11:09] why do people use linux? [11:09] how do you "Un-keep above others" in KDE? [11:09] this spoon i have here isnt good for development [11:10] rignes_ (n=rignes@216-164-160-133.c3-0.atw-ubr3.atw.pa.static.cable.rcn.com) got lost in the net-split. [11:10] Dont use it! [11:10] well its a spoon [11:10] wrong ! it feeds you while you cod ! [11:10] *code [11:10] opera = spoon firefox = spork [11:10] ff > opera [11:10] icecat > ff [11:10] opera has nice performance for older machines [11:10] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [11:10] grekkos: Performs nicely [11:10] I just put the latest opera on a Win98SE machine for my grandmother a few months ago [11:11] but its no good for web development, at least for me [11:11] Slaxor, isnt it iceweasel? [11:11] why does sony require me to enter all my information for 30 pcs to get activation codes for FREE SOFTWARE [11:11] slackboy> no [11:12] slackytude: it was known as iceweasel before [11:12] ACID Xpress 7.0: [11:12] 3BBNDNTM6-1MT2VE6JD-7FZPDY9FJ-66YYDRJ62-Z05YY443R-R5KPMV7JM Please note that the Authentication Code(s) above are specific to the computer with a Machine ID of GW9L-BYCF-3F30. [11:12] And its a firefox fork xD [11:12] stupid fascists [11:12] I c [11:12] pthreat> and firefox is a mozilla fork [11:13] and mozilla is a netscape fork [11:13] and netscape is ... [11:13] ah, no, wait it ends there [11:13] no [11:13] mosaic clone [11:13] :O [11:13] right [11:13] icecat does everything firefox does [11:13] How does one get a proper gpg key on their keyring? [11:14] C00re (i=hard@unaffiliated/c00re) joined ##slackware. [11:14] i only know how two would do it [11:15] Slaxor, well let's hear that one and I'll see what I can do :) [11:15] Slaxor: Does it supports flash, firebug, web developer extensions? [11:15] yes [11:16] but its linux only [11:16] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [11:16] hiptobecubic, create one or import one? [11:17] slackytude, import. I'm looking at ketchup, the kernel patcher, and it needs a gpg key [11:18] i haven't really used them before and I don't know much about them other than they are used to verify that data came from where it says it came from [11:18] i thought patch was the kernel patcher [11:19] Slaxor, ketchup uses patch. It patches or reverses patches in order to get you to the kernel version that you want [11:19] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:19] aaaaaaaand you'd be done already without it [11:19] :P [11:19] Slaxor, this time, yes. Next time. no :) [11:19] beantmt (n=bean@opensuse/member/bgmerrell) joined ##slackware. [11:19] hiptobecubic, sounds interesting [11:20] more importantly. It's shined some light on the fact that i don't know anything about gpg.... which apparently is a big deal because it won't do anything without it. [11:20] hiptobecubic, you should be able to do a gpg --import [11:21] Herman (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:21] kernel panic on boot after rebooting because a bug similar to this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=172541. Here is the screenshot of the kernel panic: http://imagebin.org/51084 [11:21] any ideas? :\ [11:21] higuita, kgpg is not bad [11:21] slackytude, ... hmm. And I suppose the key I need should be at kernel.org or something.. [11:22] slackytude, not running kde or any kde libs [11:22] beantmt> you need to load your filesystem module [11:23] hiptobecubic, I guess the key should be at any keyserver [11:23] beantmt> use an initrd or build it into the kernel [11:23] Slaxor: i didn't change anything :\ [11:23] thats why it doesnt work dude [11:23] slackytude, ah of course! searching [11:23] i've rebooted the machine several times in the past [11:23] alright [11:24] ok [11:24] tooly (n=theo@e178176126.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [11:24] so...you didnt change anything at all and it worked before? [11:24] hmm [11:24] then your partition/ filesystem got corrupted [11:24] there is a CD in the drive for another distro [11:24] and i selected "boot from harddisk" [11:25] and it goes right to slackware's lilo... but maybe that is messing something up? [11:25] that could have something to do with it [11:25] try withuot the cd [11:26] trying.. [11:27] bojevnik (n=Administ@212.235.186.230) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:28] hiptobecubic, http://kernel.org/signature.html [11:28] got to go [11:28] oh I got the media keys working, btw, thanks guys [11:29] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:30] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:30] Slaxor: nope, didn't help. and i haven't changed anything, but I can mount all the partitions from a live cd [11:31] spook (n=spook@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:32] umislack (i=1000@58.64.92.148) joined ##slackware. [11:32] Anthony_ (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:33] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.163.127) left irc: "leaving" [11:33] Anyone else have an idea what would cause http://imagebin.org/51084 out of the blue? I can mount all of the partitions from a live cd. [11:34] beantmt, read /boot/README.mkinitrd [11:34] beantmt, you need to pass the correct boot device to mkinitrd. [11:34] there is an example. [11:36] Action: beantmt reads [11:36] i'm more concerned about why it happened [11:36] beantmt, did you run mkinitrd? [11:36] have to go, have fun ;) [11:36] no. i've been using this machine for a month or so now [11:36] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [11:37] can anyone reccomend a good pdf viewer? xpdf was hanging while changing pages and kpdf is slow when I zoom in [11:37] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:38] i use epdfview, but don't consider it "good" ;) [11:38] Lurq (i=lurq@destiny2.et2605.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:38] there is ocular or however its spelled [11:39] okular [11:39] hmm I've heard of okular [11:39] I'll try that one [11:43] spook (n=spook@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [11:43] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:43] how do I check for installed libraries? [11:43] (to make sure I have them installed) [11:44] you could grep /var/log/packages [11:44] or grep the output of ldconfig [11:45] grekkos: ocular is the same kpdf for kde 4 [11:46] I'm using KDE3.5 [11:46] It will not work under KDE 3.5 [11:46] oh [11:46] would you recommend KDE4? [11:46] Or you will have to fight for it [11:46] oh mammy, oh mammy mammy blue [11:47] grekkos: how ever you can try to install it [11:47] I heard KDE4 is a litle strange, but I haven't used it yte [11:47] But you can try to customize kpdf in properties [11:48] There are some options like performance optimized and quality optimized [11:48] grekkos: have you used vista yet? [11:48] alisonken1home: never used it directly, but I've seen it being used [11:49] grekkos: kde3.x to kde4.x is similar to the differences between windows XP and windows Vista - only better :) [11:50] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-144-254.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:52] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:53] alisonken1home: "better" sounds nice :) [11:54] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:55] my friend seems to think this computer won't be able to handle KDE4, sounds like a challenge. [11:55] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:56] what kind of computer? [11:56] hp compaq laptop [11:56] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:56] not even sure about the specs on this... I have ~1GB memory [11:57] video? [11:57] paul424 (n=chatzill@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:58] 1.6ghz... and some ati card I think [11:58] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] [11:58] should handle it [11:58] sounds decent enough [11:58] it's a P4 or equivalent, right ? [11:58] the debian based forks were staggering on this machine, actually I impressed a friend with the perfomance on here just by installign slack [11:59] pentium M 1.6ghz [11:59] oh, nice :) [11:59] kde4 should run ok :) [11:59] ubuntu and flashbang or whatever that thing is called he had on here were running terribly [11:59] Action: C_Tux still hasn't done anything of his matlab work, otoh the thing is impossible to understand [11:59] and windows xp was so-so [12:00] crushbang ;) [12:00] yeah crunchbang [12:00] crunchbang? [12:00] beantmt (n=bean@opensuse/member/bgmerrell) left ##slackware. [12:00] he, I managed to write it wrong myself ;p [12:00] http://crunchbanglinux.org/ [12:00] slackytude: ubuntu with openbox as a wm [12:00] eh [12:00] thats sounds ... wierd [12:01] so I guess it was mainly just ubuntu then [12:01] Action: jeev boos [12:01] actually I wonder if it uses gnome [12:01] because i tried ubuntu and mint (which is also ubuntu based) [12:01] Ive heard good things about mint [12:02] hmm some desktop widgets would be nice... not like i ever see the desktop anyway [12:02] crunchbang -> out : they ship flash afaict [12:02] I actually like mint, I've never used it but I like all the themes available for it [12:03] paul424 (n=chatzill@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]" [12:03] it's supposed to be ubuntu with all of those extra things installed like the non-free multimedia codecs and stuff [12:03] seems to use lxde but they don't want to say it [12:03] what's lxde? [12:04] yet another wm [12:04] Is oldfogie still gone? [12:04] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [12:04] http://www.lxde.org/ light but nice desktop environment [12:04] I saw him get run off the other day [12:05] hiptobecubic, Oldfogie was here the other day [12:05] get run off? [12:05] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: "leaving" [12:05] Shaman286 (n=lucas@189.71.22.23) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:06] He was complaining about some DCC bug and someone else was giving him a hard time about it or something [12:06] Action: slackytude shrugs [12:06] slackers using lxde, speak up ! http://blog.lxde.org/?p=352 [12:06] lxde might get gnome deps ! [12:07] anyway, he's not here now :( I finally have time to get distcc/ccache set up how he was describing it to me earlier. Guess I have to figure it out again myself. [12:07] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-3f23e57dbb564241) left irc: [12:07] Ive found distcc t be pretty simple [12:07] OlfFogie, OldFogie, OldFogie ! [12:07] i usually run flux or gnome (other distros) myself, but multiple monitors on flux was taking too long to set up so i gave in and tried kde [12:07] altho I had some issues with it sometimes [12:07] hmmm, doesn't seem to work =/ >< [12:07] actually flux on ubuntu was slower on this machine than KDE on slack [12:07] C_Tux, have to look into a mirror [12:07] so i figured performance was good enough [12:08] umislack (i=1000@58.64.92.148) left irc: "Leaving" [12:09] slackytude: you think OldFogie is not BeetleJuice ? =/ [12:10] C_Tux, more like the Candyman ^-^ [12:10] wow, I can't do a single thing in this matlab exercise, I can't concentrate on it =/ [12:10] I want candy ! :P [12:10] I dislike matlab [12:11] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:11] distcc is working alright but it has some issues with certain builds. QT4, for example, doesn't build properly [12:11] OldFogie had a nice system he was using to get around that problem and get distcc + ccache working together well [12:11] nifty [12:11] slackytude: yep, I don't really like it either [12:12] but I was writing term papers, etc so i didn't have to get it rolling [12:12] Here I am, fresh out of school and jobless, so I'd like to see how it does [12:12] lxde is just the wm? [12:12] oh desktop environment it says [12:12] hiptobecubic, how long have you been searching? [12:12] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:13] For a job or for the solution to this problem? [12:13] job [12:13] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left ##slackware ("Le di a la X sin querer."). [12:14] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:14] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7da20bbe7145e03a) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [12:14] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7d4a73b16715414b) joined ##slackware. [12:14] well, brb [12:14] C_Tux (i=500dd9e9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-55f206836422b8ac) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [12:15] Axius (i=samyw@92.85.217.155) joined ##slackware. [12:15] slackytude, not long. To be fair, I DO have a temp job as a perl "programmer" in july and aug [12:15] but that's all i have going at the moment [12:16] back [12:17] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [12:18] hiptobecubic, doesnt sound bad [12:18] slackytude, I hate perl, to be honest. But I'm getting into bioinformatics so it's a must [12:19] heh [12:19] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:19] y0 firebird619, I see you survived the storm [12:19] slackytude: haha, yeah I did. How's it going? [12:20] I posted 3 images I took last night, I'll find the links. [12:20] firebird619, lazy day, not doing much, but its fine. how are you? [12:20] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:20] hiptobecubic> did you send out your resume? [12:20] slackytude: doing great, thanks. [12:20] slackytude: http://imagebin.org/51051 http://imagebin.org/51050http://imagebin.org/51049 [12:21] Slaxor, I'm a bio major :) It doesn't help me get IT jobs (yet) [12:21] i suggest you get a job with the university [12:21] or become a 9-5 lemming [12:21] more likely 6-7 lemming with traffic [12:21] Slaxor, I have one. That's what i'm talking about. [12:22] anyone have a dock app they recommend trying? [12:22] grekkos> volume manager [12:22] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:22] it lets you adjust your sound volume [12:22] also a clock is nice [12:23] zachary_ (i=zachary@adsl-69-209-124-233.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [12:23] Slaxor: volume manager?? [12:24] zacharym (i=zachary@unaffiliated/zghost) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:24] firebird619, funky pictures but doesnt look like a bad storm [12:26] slackytude: that was more the back side of it. That was facing N-NW. In the opposite direction, the sky was extremely dark. [12:26] I c [12:26] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:27] i forgot how i built xf86-video-intel last time heh [12:27] hahaha dammit jeev! [12:27] LOL [12:27] We were going to document, wiki and reproduce that! [12:27] lol [12:27] i upgraded to -current [12:27] Ahh [12:27] i'll do it again if i have to [12:27] Good call, -current is pretty sweet.. 64-current? [12:27] abby (n=abby@88-202-52-15.ip.skylogicnet.com) joined ##slackware. [12:28] not 64, no [12:28] should i do 64? [12:28] abby (n=abby@88-202-52-15.ip.skylogicnet.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:28] I did. Your proc probably supports it, either amd64 or em64t. [12:28] are you running slackware64? [12:28] 12.2 is pretty sweet also [12:28] if you like stability [12:28] someone said there was a way [12:28] to install it over [12:28] i dont wanna download and install [12:28] headbrake (n=headbrak@78.134.13.201) joined ##slackware. [12:28] jeev: It will basically be a full install [12:29] Nick change: zachary_ -> zacharym [12:29] that's fine im too lazy to get up [12:29] does it come with kde 4? [12:29] there are no isos for slackware64-current at this time [12:29] yes.. 4.2.3 [12:29] ok lets do it [12:30] isn't it pretty much updating mirrors in slackpkg ? [12:30] Dominian: slackware.no has some, I think [12:30] slackpkg should have an update to show what will be installed [12:31] to test [12:31] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:31] Fish (n=SPARCman@AVelizy-152-1-56-93.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:31] 2 [12:32] 3 [12:32] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p57A77A5C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:32] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.114) joined ##slackware. [12:33] so since http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware64-current/ = doesn't have iso [12:33] should boot into the slack cd [12:33] and set that as the media ? [12:33] jeev: well first of all you have to do some upgrades... [12:33] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [12:33] no, the 12.2 CD will not be able to handle -current packages [12:33] should i just start fresh [12:33] you need to upgradepkg pkgtool, gzip, and tar. You then need to make sure you installpkg the xz package [12:33] i have all that [12:34] from -current? [12:34] ls /var/log/packages | grep pkgtool [12:34] yes [12:34] why not upgrade to current and then move to s64? [12:34] pkgtools-12.34567890-noarch-5 [12:34] does alien convert rpms to tgz format? [12:34] i am on current [12:34] just need to install stuff in order [12:34] grekkos: no [12:34] Kaapa: wrong [12:34] Dominian: why? [12:34] You have to make sure you update pkgtools, gzip, tar and make sure xz package is there.. if you don't.. you will fail. [12:35] :) [12:35] I can't find the source for this package anywhere... engage dock [12:35] i have them all dood [12:35] that's why I said "just need to install stuff in order" :p [12:35] Even if you go to slackware-current to slackware64-current.. [12:35] Kaapa: aye [12:35] Action: Dominian did an in-place upgrade from Slamd64 to Slackware64 [12:35] hmm [12:35] but the same basic concept applies [12:35] doot doot doot. [12:35] http://slackadelic.com/2009/05/27/slamd64-to-slackware64-upgrade/ [12:36] Dominian. [12:36] should i just download all the packages or what [12:36] I keep a local -current tree all the time [12:37] of slamd64, slackware, and slackware64 [12:37] ok as you were saying [12:37] make sure you have latest pkgtools and stuff [12:37] should i just continue to do it myself [12:37] or.. [12:37] the other pitfall to going from slackware32 to slackware64.. is the kernel [12:38] headbrake_ (n=headbrak@78.134.12.237) joined ##slackware. [12:38] you have to make sure the kernel for slackware64 is installed and that you make sure to run lilo after ... if not.. you hose yourself hehe [12:38] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:38] ok so just upgradepkg everything. [12:38] Yeah you can do that. [12:38] headbrake_ (n=headbrak@78.134.12.237) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:39] but keep in mind.. I'm a "veteran" to this.. so if something breaks.. I always have a failover :P [12:39] ok [12:39] we're all veterans [12:39] s/failover/someone else to blame/ ;) [12:39] hehe [12:40] does mirrors usc have rsync [12:40] BP{k}: Well if you read my article.. I mention the "fuck up" I created briefly at the end hehe [12:40] Dominian: article? [12:40] http://slackadelic.com/2009/05/27/slamd64-to-slackware64-upgrade/ [12:40] geeze [12:40] I just pasted it [12:41] ;) [12:41] slackytude3 (n=slacky@p57A76DFE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:42] slackytude3 (n=slacky@p57A76DFE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:42] slackytude3 (n=slacky@p57A76DFE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:43] girls a search for rpm's, you never know if you'll ever find the right one. [12:43] i know i did, i used slackware so i bypassed rpms [12:43] girls search for rpms? 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[12:46] Action: slackytude3 wonders how much a cloned kethry would cost [12:46] i wonder how you got off my ignore list [12:46] there we go [12:46] slackytude3: hmm good question. : ) I'll have to think about this ;) [12:46] :| [12:46] BP{k}, also, is there some kind of reduction if you buy in large quantities [12:47] every answer to that question I can think of is incredibly sexist [12:47] Action: slackytude3 aims to be a reseller [12:47] that'd be great if that mirror script had rsync loggig [12:48] Nick change: nheco -> nheco_ [12:48] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:49] oh it does heh [12:50] slackytude3 (n=slacky@p57A76DFE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:50] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A76DFE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:50] Action: Dominian staples slackytude down [12:50] dyn0myt3 (n=dyn0myt3@adsl-75-41-205-217.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:51] nheco_ (n=nheco@189-10-174-165.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [12:51] as long as you don't see slackytude4, he's ok :) [12:52] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p57A77A5C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:52] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "leaving" [12:52] i need to learn to speak russian [12:52] and mandarin [12:53] I find russian to be an intriguing language. [12:53] and german [12:53] Dominian, me connection is crap [12:53] jawohl. :P [12:53] Wahrlich [12:53] shizer [12:53] Action: BP{k} needs to brush up sorta on his german before this summer. [12:54] headbrake (n=headbrak@78.134.13.201) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:54] slackytude: T-mobile or something? [12:54] BP{k}, going to germany ? [12:54] or deustch telecom? [12:54] spelling? [12:54] deutsch [12:54] damn.. so close [12:54] Camarade_Tux: yeah visiting the old folks there for a bit, they just bought a house there. [12:54] deutsch is richtig [12:55] man I hate dependency tracing [12:55] pthreat (n=ctd@190.2.40.57) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:56] Lurq (i=root@destiny2.et2605.com) joined ##slackware. [12:56] reminds me that in ubuntu, opencv can't play movies, and since it's ubuntu, you're stuck :) [12:56] why? install a compiler and fix it [12:57] well, yeah, you're not completely stuck but then you have to create a package for ubuntu so it doesn't mess everything up, and that, /me knows no [12:58] you'd have to do the same on slackware, no? [12:58] but slackbuilds don't make it very hard :) [12:58] ok, so it's not really fair to blame ubuntu because you're too lazy to learn .deb packaging [12:59] does debian has something that will easily create a good package ? [12:59] Action: Camarade_Tux is honestly asking [13:00] you should check, before you insult them :) [13:00] is it possible to use tat slackware mirror current script and not download soruces? [13:00] anyway, just playing devil's adv. saying any distro sucks is kind of the wrong attitude [13:00] thrice`, doing it right now ;) [13:00] but Ubuntu does suck.... [13:00] jeev: man rsync, look for --exclude [13:01] oh from rsync ok [13:01] too late [13:01] zacharym: ubuntu is really nice, it's very easy to use for most people [13:01] thrice`, no, not that it sucks : usually, distros with dependency tracking have everything enabled and pulling one package pulls every possible package, but for opencv, that's not even the case [13:01] easy when you want to get rid of one package you don't want, and apt tries to remove half the packages [13:01] apt is junk [13:02] I didn't have those problems when I tried it. Are you sure you're not just trying to look cool by criticizing things without reason? :P [13:02] apt just reads a "REQUIRES" line or whatever. apt doesn't suck, but the packagers who create these requirements [13:02] dependency tracking is problematic at best [13:02] hmm there's no ecore-evas package on slackbuilds? [13:02] can't blame apt for doing what it's supposed to [13:02] grekkos: is there supposed to be? [13:03] apt simply isn't flexible enough [13:03] indeed - apt can't be blamed for how complex dependency tracking is [13:03] If there isn't one, create a build script for it and submi tit [13:03] well I found all the other dependencies for enlightenment on there [13:03] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [13:03] including ecore [13:03] so, what, you go "apt-get remove something", and it also removes every package that lists "something" as a dependency? Doesn't it ask you "are you sure" first? [13:04] Urchlay: it asks you if you want to remove, but if you say no, you can't remove that package even though using it ad a dependancy is assinine [13:04] yes it does [13:04] it doesn't ask on a per package basis [13:04] zacharym: what about removing it with dpkg, then? [13:04] I believe it will break apt [13:05] since if you try to update, apt will realize the conflict [13:05] since all apt is is a frontend with dependancy tracking for dpkg [13:05] pkgtools never breaks! apt is weak [13:05] what's an example of what you're talking about? I assume you don't mean "I want to remove xine-lib, but not xine" [13:07] Urchlay: I mean an application that really has no use for said package, but is listed as a dependancy [13:08] rvo (n=rodrigo@zonarails.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:08] yeah, I got that, just wanted to know a concrete example (I haven't used debian in years) [13:09] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p57A77A4A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:10] connection is fine, unless it starts to rain >-< [13:11] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A76DFE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Connection timed out [13:11] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:11] Action: theblackbox get's out his shaman "dance star" for the Wii and set's it to "Raindance" [13:12] heh [13:12] wii [13:14] wii fit saved my life (unless i get a heart attack) :) [13:15] lol [13:15] noob question, I installed Wine, its in the system but theres no Kmenu entry. my question is Where does it install. [13:15] Action: jeev plays wii with my friends kids.. [13:15] /usr/bin/wine is the main binary [13:15] ok [13:16] you run windows apps from the command line with "wine filename.exe" [13:16] and there's at least some desktop integration, so if you run a windows installer, the windows desktop/startmenu shortcuts are supposed to show up in your KDE desktop [13:16] (though I don't know much about that, not being a KDE user...) [13:17] also, it might be that double-clicking a windows .exe will run it with wine (try it & see) [13:18] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl5-183-17.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:19] omg [13:19] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [13:19] i just dropped the lightest fart [13:19] and it smells terrible [13:19] hey slackers [13:19] one of the nice things about IRC is that smells don't get transmitted over it [13:19] yo compl3x, how's it going? [13:19] you're ruining it though [13:20] firebird619: out in the garden -bbq [13:20] firebird619: you? [13:20] compl3x: doing great, thanks. :) [13:20] anyway [13:20] me__ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [13:21] battery dying :| laters [13:21] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: Client Quit [13:21] Urchlay: usually I get a kmenu entry but did not this time [13:21] Urchlay, i wish you smelled it [13:21] dyn0myt3: have to tried logging out and back in to see if it shows up? [13:21] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-119-103.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:22] firebird619: no [13:22] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [13:22] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: Client Quit [13:22] snama (n=snama@c-4f661f76-74736162.cust.telenor.se) joined ##slackware. [13:22] dyn0myt3: you might want to give that a try, it might show up after that. [13:22] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [13:22] if i R click on one of my games the Wine option is there. and files are in /usr/bin [13:23] man, I suck at xlander [13:23] running just wine by itself (with no arguments) is monumentally useless anyway [13:23] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: Client Quit [13:23] noris_can (i=d01b4509@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0e25916c39539659) joined ##slackware. [13:23] Hey Camarade_Tux, how are you? [13:23] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [13:24] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:24] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [13:24] hey firebird619 :) [13:24] nice, and you ? [13:24] doing great, thanks. [13:24] Have any of you guys tried the window manager awesome? [13:24] zacharym: I have in the past [13:25] zacharym: which one ? [13:25] firebird619: what was your opinion? [13:25] awesome ? [13:25] init[1] it's called "awesome" [13:25] http://awesome.naquadah.org [13:25] dyn0myt3 (n=dyn0myt3@adsl-75-41-205-217.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:25] hmm [13:25] zacharym: yep figured it out .. but that sentence seems to be bit vague .:) [13:25] grrr, crashing again =/ [13:25] I can't find the ecore-evas source package anyway [13:25] anywhere* [13:26] Action: credo thinks some people will never discover that WM because of its name [13:26] init[1]: sorry about my horrible grammar :( [13:26] dyn0myt3 (n=dyn0myt3@adsl-75-41-205-217.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:26] zacharym: personally, I liked it, and it was quite nice, but to be honest, I've been using ion3 since yesterday, and I like it a lot better than awesome. [13:26] bbiab [13:26] zacharym: im not expert but you could have put awesome inside double quotes ;) [13:27] firebird619: ion3 is better.... the developer of awesome started his project due to some licensing issue with ion3. [13:27] init[1]: :D [13:27] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [13:27] hi. I was here last week looking for help with a faild mirror disk. I have one disk of a mirror from a two disk system and I need to get data off it. don't have the original hw, but the controller documentation on an old floppy says that theres 128 blocks of raid config data before the actual mirror. is there anyway I can access it? [13:28] i did not have the info on the raid config data last time I was here [13:28] you have another disk that has enough free space to hold the contents of the old disk? [13:28] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p57A77A4A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:29] http://awesome.naquadah.org/images/4mon.png zacharym are those lcdmon from a single computer ? [13:29] urchlay, yes. [13:30] you could dd the old drive to a file on your new drive, then experiment with the file instead of risking the old drive [13:30] you might look into the "offset" option of losetup(8) [13:30] that's a good idea. I'll do that. I've used dd before. [13:30] don't know losetup [13:30] nvision_ (n=nvision@p4FC03DB9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:31] me__ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:31] yeah, there's a nice man page for it though :) [13:31] that's what i'm looking at now [13:31] thanks [13:31] actually there's "mount -o loop,offset=12345 imagefile /mnt/whatever", not documented all that well [13:32] Urchlay: that vim problem of operator highlighting is solved [13:32] the "offset=" appears to be in bytes. You'd feed it blocksize * 128, assuming you know what the old floppy docs mean by a block [13:33] init[1]: cool. Did you figure out a way to do it in ~/.vim instead of editing the system-wide configs? [13:33] xroach doesn't work correctly here ! ='( [13:33] Urchlay: indeed yes [13:33] it doesn't touch the system files [13:34] losetup is used to associate files with a loop device. wat does that mean? l dont know what a loop device does (is it a networking device) [13:34] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.113.116.159) joined ##slackware. [13:34] nm. i found it. it makes it act like a block device. [13:35] Urchlay: out put from vim http://imagebin.org/51103 [13:37] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [13:39] init[1]: the ( ) characters are the ones that got highlighted by your changes? [13:39] and { } [13:39] * and ; too... they're all yellow now [13:40] Urchlay: actuall i love my turbo ide color scheme , which even considers ; { } () for operator colors .. [13:40] *turbo c++ [13:40] All operators are in yellow [13:40] I would go nuts if I had to use a text editor that displayed some stuff in italics (dunno why, I've tried it, hated it) [13:41] otherwise, that looks pretty nice to me [13:41] Urchlay: when the code bcoms large it will help it identification [13:41] for exmp thet types [13:41] rather just have a different color instead of italics [13:41] dios_mio (i=FREELOVE@88.243.198.61) joined ##slackware. [13:41] Urchlay: got it .. but i only use italics for colors [13:42] i mean types [13:42] it's personal preference for me, that's all [13:42] ttyX (n=slacker@115.108.13.72) joined ##slackware. [13:42] :) [13:42] planing to upload it vim [13:42] Just igured out that I forgot to fix the symlinks to point to generic kernel [13:43] that's why I was having probs [13:43] yeah, definitely upload it [13:43] now ll fixed and am a happy camper ;) [13:43] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-69-31.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:44] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [13:44] clear [13:44] But its base is based on two configarations user ~/.vim../c.vim and the my color scheme not sure if that is out of standard [13:44] Action: ttyX is over excited :p [13:44] the one thing I wish I could make vim do that I can't figure out: I wish I could put something in my .vimrc that tells it to completely ignore the system-wide vimrc [13:44] ttyX: i can understand your excitation ! [13:45] Urchlay: lol [13:46] antiwire sure is gonna kil meif he finds out I had a symlink prob though lol [13:46] init[1]: there is (or was?) a command line option to tell it to do that, but I wanted to do it in .vimrc [13:46] http://www.darkscience.ws/img//src/1243878237138.jpg [13:46] >.> i need to do something productive [13:46] snama (n=snama@c-4f661f76-74736162.cust.telenor.se) left ##slackware. [13:46] hahaha [13:46] violine hero [13:47] Urchlay: don't you remember the command ? [13:47] Where's the XBOX 360 verfsion damn it! [13:47] as you set color scheme in vimrc you can put them in vimrc right ? [13:47] Violin Hero! [13:47] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [13:47] :> [13:48] Action: ttyX wants the vim color scheme in his bashrc [13:48] I need to get the wireless adapater for my xbox [13:48] Fiddle Hero [13:48] so I can start streaming netflix to my tv [13:48] The final battle: Devil Went Down TO Georgia [13:48] Action: Camarade_Tux wants that tto [13:48] lastlog keth [13:48] argh [13:48] fail! [13:48] eviljames: you can't HANDLE the plastic violin :> [13:48] init[1]: I don't remember the "ignore the global vimrc" command line option, no. I go "rm /usr/share/vim/vimrc" right after every install or upgrade [13:48] hahaha [13:48] *FAIL* [13:48] *HEADDESK* [13:49] BP{k}: should've added an [ in bed ] there after your "fail!" comment.. would've been funnier... [13:49] hehehe [13:49] Urchlay: so you removed the file to get the desired results ? [13:49] whats with this akonadi server poppoing up each time I login? [13:49] acidchild: I handled a real violin once. Even managed to play a metal tune on it once I figured out the tuning :P [13:49] acidchild: It sounded weird. [13:50] :P [13:50] violins can be violent if you don't handle them properly [13:50] ttyX: Camarade_Tux how is color scheme related to bashrc ? [13:50] init[1]: yep. Specifically, the global vimrc sets the options to remember the last cursor position in each file, and the annoying auto-comment-continuation stuff (where it "helpfully" puts a # or a // at the beginning of the next line after I press Enter) [13:51] init[1]: coz it looks geeky? [13:51] ttyX: sax and violins? [13:51] I'd like all my apps to use the same color scheme ='( [13:51] HoldMyPocket (n=choward@vpn.cusonet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:51] me too [13:51] Camarade_Tux: one way to do that would be to run X in 1-bit color :) [13:51] Urchlay: lol [13:52] Urchlay: thanks for the help, but using the losetup with either 512 or 1024 blocksizes (it can be either one according to the docs) does not work I still get "wrong fs type, bad option, etc." [13:52] (dunno if modern X will do that any more, it used to actually be possible on old xfree86 3.x versions) [13:52] Urchlay, hmmm, could work :p [13:52] noris_can: possibly the drive has a partition table after the raid config blocks? [13:52] eh, or before them [13:53] the doc says there's 128 blocks of config data and then the boot sector for the mirror. [13:53] yeah... "boot sector" isn't part of a data partition [13:53] I don't have any info on what was actually on the disk [13:54] Urchlay: create an alias for vim: vim -u .vimrc [13:54] jumperboy: sure. But I work on lots of different systems. What I want it to be able to just copy my .vimrc into ~ and have it Just Work [13:54] hey guys, total bare-bones system here (starting my linode from scratch on their 12.2) and wondering what recommendations for my first install sweep are? (I didn't even have which or findutils!) [13:55] will probably just potter about and install what I need when I need it (that yielded fine tuned results last time) [13:55] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:55] but if anyone knows/has a list? could help me out some [13:55] so [13:55] upgradepkg officially borke slackware. [13:55] Urchlay: you could make a script do that [13:56] nvision_ (n=nvision@p4FC03DB9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:56] elflibs 64 lol [13:56] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.114) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:56] i mean ,have you seen how virtual box static apps are installed they hav compressed image within them ,, [13:56] jeev: upgradepkg only did what you asked it to do. [13:56] jeev: take some responsibility! you b0rked slackware :P [13:56] init[1]: last time I tried it, turning off the options I want turned off, won't work if I do it in .vimrc [13:56] Urchlay: if boot sector is not part of the data partitio, how do i remove it? or get past it? [13:57] elfibs is backlisted by default afaik [13:57] jeev: if you tried to update your slackware from 32-bit to 64-bit, then it's you who failed [13:57] elflibs* [13:57] Urchlay: i'm extending to what jeev said [13:57] not about editing [13:57] noris_can: add (size of boot sector) to the offset value. Sectors are 512 bytes, but I think maybe it's actually more than one sector... [13:57] i know i done borke it [13:57] i dont care [13:57] or as my friend says, "i dont give a rat ass" [13:57] jeev: heh, what's gone wrong? [13:57] i dunno, upgradepkg */*.tgz breaks gzip. [13:58] upgradepkg */*.txz breaks life. [13:58] when you move around system,make a install script [13:58] should've gone into single user [13:58] haha [13:58] anyway. [13:58] jeev: What order did you do the upgrade? [13:58] Dominian, i just ran it, i dont care [13:58] no order ;) [13:58] noris_can: basically, you have to mess with it, that's why I said to dd it to a file (so if you mangle it, no permanent harm done) [13:58] Action: ttyX likes the routing table of slack better than windows [13:58] jeev: than that's fail [13:59] more info :D [13:59] Urchlay: okay. thanks I'll dd it first and try from there. [13:59] Dominian, i find it hard to believe that i cant intall slack64-current from a slack cd [13:59] noris_can (i=d01b4509@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0e25916c39539659) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [13:59] i cant mount through nfs ? [13:59] or install over ftp ? [13:59] jeev: you can't, you need a 64-bit kernel [13:59] jeev: proably [13:59] ... [13:59] or glibc will puke [13:59] so what's the suggest method [13:59] hey antiwire ;) [13:59] noris_can: if you know what filesystem is on the disk, and you can find out details about that filesystem, you might be able to search for the filesystem identifier bytes (if there are any)... "grep -b" can be useful there [13:59] prob fixed [13:59] for you, I am not advising anything [13:59] download slackware64-current, create iso from it, install using that [14:00] ok [14:00] eh, "grep -bo" I should say [14:00] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: "Leaving" [14:00] or, download the -current iso [14:00] anyone gotten bluetooth pan working in slackware [14:00] im trying to use internet connection sharing via bluetooth [14:00] jeev: visit alienBOB's wiki before proceeding [14:00] windows mobile internet device [14:00] wow, my Black Sabbath playlist finally ended, after two days [14:00] jeev: http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1539 [14:01] hahaha [14:01] i read that shit [14:01] but still... [14:01] Action: antiwire slaps jeev with a trout [14:01] i know i know [14:01] i dont care though [14:01] that's the difference between you and me [14:02] oh, and 5 bank accounts, 3 vehicles and 7 inches additional penix. [14:02] jeev: How was dinner? [14:02] saying you don't care is like admitting you're a moron [14:03] agentc0re, i didnt eat much :/ [14:03] thrice`, i have nothing on the system [14:03] sure, but you should at least try to learn why it failed [14:03] anyone successfully hibernating a slackware laptop? [14:04] jumperboy: yep :) [14:04] i know exactly why it failed [14:04] i figured it'd fail. [14:04] when i installed gzip and thought to myself, wtf am i doing. [14:04] gzip wont run now. [14:04] i took it off another systme and put it back and STILL TRIED IT! [14:05] jeev: you're still running a 32-bit kernel, aren't you? 64-bit binaries will not run on a 32-bit kernel [14:05] duh ;) [14:05] also, if you used upgradepkg on your glibc-solibs package, it *deleted* your 32-bit libc [14:05] just call me careless [14:05] meaning you can't run 32-bit binaries either now [14:05] ie, quit trying to teach me [14:06] i dont need the source eh to build iso [14:06] thrice`: i closed the lid on my eeepc 1000he without thinking and tossed it in its bag, it was roasting when i got home [14:06] i could exclude that from rsync [14:06] and kdei [14:06] jumperboy: well, did you set an acpi event / action to occur when you closed your lid? [14:07] jeev: exclude what? glibc-solibs? you need those... [14:07] thrice`: i installed alienBOB's eeepc acpi scripts yesterday, but i'm not sure how to get that to work [14:07] no, from iso [14:07] thrice`: there is a lid.sh [14:07] jumperboy: well, are they +x in /etc/acpi/{actions,events} [14:08] ttyX (n=slacker@115.108.13.72) left irc: "leaving" [14:08] thrice`: ah, it mentions a powersaved. maybe i need to install a package [14:08] events/* don't need to be executable [14:08] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [14:08] oh, right. [14:09] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.114) joined ##slackware. [14:12] do i need the suspend package? [14:13] what does your lid.sh actually call ? [14:13] it calls suspend.sh which calls pm-suspend [14:13] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.39) joined ##slackware. [14:14] has anyone seen this before? http://www.google.com/linux [14:14] then you're OK, as pm-utils are apart of slackware [14:17] s0d0 (n=john@host86-175-193-126.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:17] thrice`: ah, yes, there it is in root's path [14:17] thrice`: okay, i ran the command as root and it suspended [14:18] thrice`: now need to figure out how to do the same by closing the lid [14:18] can you "ls -l /etc/acpi/actions/*" and check the perms ? [14:18] they're all executable [14:18] 755 [14:21] lid.sh tries to source /usr/share/acpi-support/policy-funcs, which doesn't exist [14:21] not sure if it matters [14:22] oh, i guess it does, since it bails if it's not there :P [14:24] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:26] touched the file, but it still doesn't suspend when i close the lid [14:26] jumperboy: where's the package you installed for that eee acpisupport? [14:28] _arfon_ (n=arfon@ip67-95-13-58.z13-95-67.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [14:28] I think alienBOB has it [14:28] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [14:28] eeepc-acpi-scripts-1.1.0-noarch-2alien [14:28] huy (n=huy@ti0095a340-dhcp0093.bb.online.no) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:28] alienBOB posted the link here yesterday [14:29] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("()"). [14:29] it's quirky, but other things are working (brightness, sound) [14:32] anyone know if I can specify multiple dir/wildcard installation sources for slackpkg? [14:33] jumperboy: what I do, is have a "lid.sh" that just calls pm-suspend direct [14:33] alienBOB: your eeepc-acpi package appears broken. [14:34] alienBOB: lid.sh sources a file that doesn't exist in that package; unless /usr/share/acpi-support/policy-funcs is supposed to be in another package, that is. [14:34] kinesis (n=k@ip72-197-207-247.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: [14:34] Looks like quite a bit of Debian cruft in those files too :/ [14:37] thrice`: that works. i put only pm-suspend in lid.sh and it works now [14:38] I'm wondering if I'm the only one to only use 'echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep' ;p [14:38] I used to use 'echo mem > /sys/power/state' [14:39] Camarade_Tux: That works all well and good if you dont have buggy hardware. [14:39] Camarade_Tux: pm-suspend creates a log, which can be handy [14:40] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.92.68) joined ##slackware. [14:40] it works on my computer, it also works on a friend computer (asus eee 1000) and I think it even works on a third computer I own ;p [14:41] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A77F32.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:41] nvision_ (n=nvision@p4FC03DB9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:42] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:42] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7d4a73b16715414b) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [14:48] rworkman: I'll have a look at my eeepc-acpi package when I have time, I never tested the lid closure. [14:49] trying to pxe boot to install 64 [14:49] i dunno why it cant locate pxelinux.cfg [14:49] it's right there. [14:49] That should be a directory jeev [14:50] With a file "default" inside [14:50] j0z (n=UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left ##slackware. [14:50] holy moly [14:50] no wonder it was reading inside [14:50] thought it was a resource fork or somethign [14:50] alienBOB: there's also an issue with function key notifications, they're in the loop, so every setting gets displayed for two seconds when you hold down a key [14:50] but that's just lame mac [14:50] alienBOB: it can take while for them to stop, if i get a chance, i'll send you a patch [14:50] pxelinux.cfg is a directory that contains the configuration files for default as well as individual configuration files for specific computers that you setup [14:51] alienBOB [14:51] slackware64-current]# find . -name "pxelinux*" [14:51] ./usb-and-pxe-installers/pxelinux.cfg_default [14:51] Channel flood from jeev -- kicking [14:51] that's it. [14:51] jeev kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [14:51] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [14:51] jeev, kicked again ? :p [14:51] as usual comrad. 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[14:54] Urchlay, why have you told me there was a slackbuild for eduk32 ? why, oh why ? [14:54] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03DB9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:54] i'm lazy, somehow i feel money floats to me [14:54] Camarade_Tux: you know you love it :) [14:54] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03DB9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:55] Camarade_Tux: "because it hurts so good"? :) [14:55] Hello, is there an upgrade howto from slackware 12.2 to slackware64 ? [14:56] No [14:56] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03DB9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:56] lem1, take it from me. no! i just borked mine. [14:56] lem1: are you on a 64bit machine? if yes, then you do a fresh install. if your coumputer is not 64bit, then forget it [14:57] Ok, thanks, yes I have a core 2 quad.. [14:57] lem1: but it is possiblle [14:57] Several people have done such an upgrade [14:57] eh [14:57] rworkman being one of them [14:57] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03DB9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:57] alienBOB, ext4/ heh [14:57] never used ext4 [14:58] I still don't use ext4 [14:58] o [14:58] ok [14:58] Just ext3 [14:58] i don't particularly like ext4 [14:58] ok, thanks 2 all !... [14:58] i've used it on another distro and, let's just say, it doesn't work how you'd expect a unix-like filesystem to work [14:58] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03DB9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:58] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Client exiting" [14:59] I put ext4 on my slackware64-current install, since it is just for testing anyways. [14:59] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03DB9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:00] Guest46536 (n=eddie@pool-141-157-219-62.ny325.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:00] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:00] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:00] XGizzmo, have you noticed any problems? personally, i noticed that under another distro, the ext4 would, after a certain amount of time(assuming after it filled journal) the thing would go write-only and require a reboot to work normally [15:01] it would never commit from the journal to the rest of the fs, as far as i could tell [15:01] yosii: Not yet and I have been working it kind of hard. [15:01] XGizzmo, it could have been that distro's implementation of ext4 support [15:02] XGizzmo, either way, it rendered an unstable distro [15:02] g2g, break is over. [15:03] I think I am going to stick with ext3 for quite awhile [15:03] <_guitarman_> me as well [15:03] <_guitarman_> tried and true [15:05] write-only? [15:05] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03DB9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:05] I don't mind pushing the envelope in certain areas but file systems is not one of them [15:05] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:05] heh [15:05] i dont even know why i cant mount, unbelievable [15:06] [ in bed ] [15:06] ahh, rpcbind [15:06] caio (n=caio@190.244.57.98) left irc: "leaving" [15:08] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:09] RJz0r (n=taterz@c-76-18-30-59.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:10] mountd[78986]: mount request denied from 192.168.0.55 for /slackware64 [15:10] cant believe this bsd crap [15:10] i've always been able to do this [15:10] why cant i figure it out. [15:10] jgoodman2 (n=jgoodman@dynamic-acs-24-101-210-62.zoominternet.net) joined ##slackware. [15:11] ahh perm [15:12] Can anyone help me with multi-monitor problem? [15:12] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:12] :-) sometimes I believe 99% of all nfs/samba/cups issues come down to perms [15:13] jgoodman2: just ask your question. don't ask if you can ask. if someone can help they will respond. [15:13] ok [15:13] wee. done [15:14] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:15] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:16] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [15:16] Urchlay, alisonken1home, yeah, I love it ! ;p [15:17] I have 2 video cards (ATI Radeon X300 PCIE & ATI Radeon 9200), Both have dual head (vga/dvi) outputs. how can I get them all to work so I can use 4 monitors with xinerama? [15:17] I told a friend about it, his roommate had to prevent him from downloading the slackbuild because he had too much work for the next days ;p [15:17] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:18] gooph (n=gooph@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]" [15:18] jgoodman2: xrandr is now used, not xinerama. i use xrandr with dual monitors and it works great. [15:19] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:19] is xrandr included with xorg in 12.2? [15:20] jgoodman2: yes. http://www.x.org/wiki/Projects/XRandR [15:20] hook 'em all up, type 'xrandr -q' in a terminal and see if all 4 outputs are discovered [15:21] ide: failed opcode was: unknown [15:21] hda: status error: status=0x00 { } [15:21] can i stop that crap [15:21] Channel flood from jeev -- kicking [15:21] i dont have a cd [15:21] jeev kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [15:21] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [15:21] god i hate that bot [15:21] thx chess [15:21] Stop flooding then [15:21] straterra, i didnt know 4 lines was a flood! [15:21] and, buy a new HD because it looks like yours is dead :P [15:21] You should by the number of times you've been kicked for it [15:21] or at least run s.m.a.r.t. tools on it to see what they report. [15:21] jgoodman2: no problem. the various links on that x.org site have some good info [15:22] eviljames, it's a cdrom ;) [15:22] jeev: 4 lines in a short amount of time is a flood. Maybe write more than 2 words per line and it won't happen again :P [15:22] eh, stop picking on me for pressing enter too much [15:22] go pick on your politician. [15:22] NO [15:22] Action: jeev sets canada ablaze [15:22] dude... I've been googling for a week trying to get this going.. [15:22] and my local federal rep is really progressive, I have no reason to pick on her. [15:22] should start paying rent @ x.org :p [15:23] jgoodman2: the debian wiki entry and the link to the intel graphics site are helpful [15:23] http://intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html [15:23] http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 [15:23] tooly (n=theo@e178176126.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [15:23] any issues w/ running nvidia & ati cards together? [15:24] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:24] jgoodman2: I don't know about that and I don't know about using 2 separate boards. I think nvidia you have to have twinview, right? their proprietary solution? [15:24] I am not sure. I use dual head on ati x300 and it works w/ no problems. [15:24] Hmm. [15:25] y - so then I wouldn't be able to use one w/ the other I assume? [15:25] How exactly do I upgrade the system tools to handle the txz package formats? [15:25] jgoodman2: I do not know [15:25] ccfreak2k, you need the new pkgtools [15:25] and the xz package [15:25] and an updated gzip/tar packages [15:25] yes [15:25] yes. [15:25] My primary question being, are said pkgtools in txz format? [15:25] no [15:26] some packages stayed in .tgz format for compatability reasons [15:26] mainly pkgtooks/tar/gzip [15:26] I can use 2 w/o a problem... it's adding a 3rd monitor that breaks x [15:26] lol kde 4 is like booting into a mac [15:27] I will view those links, thanks for the info chess [15:27] jgoodman2: np [15:27] rsr (n=renatoro@189.16.239.22) left ##slackware. [15:28] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [15:28] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.114) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:28] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: "leaving" [15:28] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:28] stupid question [15:29] how do i get to graphics settings in kde 4 lol [15:29] ah nevermind [15:29] stupid answer: point and click [15:29] how bout if i point and shoot you [15:32] wee, intel driver time. [15:33] xrandr shows 1024x768 max, i frogot what to do [15:33] but xorg log shows higher for the monitor heh [15:33] i never fixed that [15:33] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "leaving" [15:34] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [15:34] dyn0myt3 (n=dyn0myt3@adsl-75-41-205-217.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:34] 1280x960 is as good as it got jeev [15:34] fixed what, resolution ? [15:34] for me* [15:34] what drivers you have [15:34] what vid card [15:34] nvidia [15:34] i fixed this in 12.2 but forgot what i did [15:34] did you install nvidia drivers? [15:34] i think it's a modeline [15:34] yes i have the real driver [15:35] hmm [15:35] dunno much about it [15:35] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-153-191.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [15:35] but mine shows (II) intel(0): Modeline "1440x900"x75.0 136.75 1440 1536 1688 1936 900 903 909 942 -hsync +vsync (70.6 kHz) [15:35] oh lol i see you have intel now =/ [15:35] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1440x900"x0.0 106.50 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 903 909 934 -hsync +vsync (55.9 kHz) [15:35] and it works? [15:41] gooph (n=gooph@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:42] quote "Xorg is smart enough to pull the resolution information from the widescreen via I2C/DDC information so it knows what the monitor can handle as far as frequencies and resolutions." [15:42] so as far seems Idon;'t have to put the modeline line exlicitly ... but the thing I cannot run at 100hz instead I work 85hz on my crt moniotr [15:43] so even if I found in log the modeline values probed should it help somehow ? [15:43] yea [15:46] well its pulling the intel driver i think [15:46] i've gotta find out if that's up to date [15:47] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e19bdbe7b9ee94a4) joined ##slackware. [15:47] NigroLinux (i=1000@rb5bk147.net.upc.cz) joined ##slackware. [15:47] hey [15:48] I have created a new distro for people with racial awerness [15:48] lol [15:49] it is a derivative of slackware *nix [15:49] I smell troll [15:49] :D~~~~ [15:49] aghh [15:49] xorgsetup fixed it [15:49] erisco, you try that ? [15:50] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e19bdbe7b9ee94a4) left irc: Client Quit [15:50] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [15:50] obama uses nigrolinux on his blackberry [15:50] he even installed the drivers for the WIFI [15:50] mrbb (n=kiko@151.53.224.211) joined ##slackware. [15:50] 3 3 3 [15:50] 9 [15:50] ciao a tutti [15:50] straterra, agreed [15:51] ragazzi ho un problema con slackware 12.1 [15:51] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [15:51] sh: u: command not found [15:51] non mi avvia il server grafico [15:51] i installed slackware 12.0 on a acer laptop [15:51] Linux slack 2.6.29.2 #2 SMP Tue Apr 28 16:28:09 CEST 2009 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [15:51] mrbb: this is an English speaking channel. [15:51] talk about hell removinng windows vista [15:51] italian channel? [15:51] they had created a 'invinsible partition\ [15:51] mrbb: try #slackware-it or ##slackware-it [15:52] so it was impossible at first to remove the darn shit [15:52] thanks [15:52] L:( [15:52] greymaus (n=greymaus@86-43-191-201-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:52] jumperboy (n=jorey@gl206.websiteproject.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:52] removing windows vista from sda: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2048 [15:53] ... easy enough [15:53] hax me hax me say dats u hax me [15:53] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:53] Action: rk4n3 shrugs [15:53] dammit, who took down the "no trolls" sign? [15:54] I have a issue with Slackware 12.1, It doesn' t play Xserver [15:54] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]" [15:54] told ya we shouldnt have built ##slackware near a swamp [15:54] haha [15:54] i even installed slackware 12.0 on my fucking toaster [15:54] works fine [15:54] but swampland is so much cheaper than building it downtown... [15:55] i have installed the x folder into cd [15:55] because its troll land, duh [15:55] "I built the first castle.. and it sank into the swamp... so I built another one... it sank into the swamp.. third one I built.. it fell over.. caught fire.. then sank into the swamp.. but the fourth one.. STAYED UP" [15:55] excuse me the bad english [15:55] dyn0myt3 (n=dyn0myt3@adsl-75-41-205-217.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:55] I installed a script in a command once [15:55] in ls [15:55] poor fella [15:56] D: [15:56] he could not see all tha pictures [15:56] mrbb, no X? [15:56] i put on his computer [15:56] D: [15:56] slackytude: yes [15:56] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "pebkac, id-10-t clicked the X ^_^" [15:56] mrbb, try "startx" what happens? [15:57] slackytude: error [15:57] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:57] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-123-248.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:57] DO killall startx [15:57] mrbb, error message -> pastebin.com [15:57] do mv startx ~/.local [15:57] SuN|2 (i=unices@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:58] ok [15:58] how did nigrolinux make you're life more simple? [15:58] Dominian: "But father... I don't want a castle.. I just want to... siiing" [15:59] Urchlay: lol [15:59] Urchlay: Love that movie [15:59] Urchlay, no singing! [15:59] do you douche? [15:59] Castle anthrax [15:59] "Oh, naught Zoot, she's been lighting the grail-shaped beacon again" [15:59] hahah [15:59] What movie is that Dominian? [15:59] agentc0re|work, O_O [16:00] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoiU0nYaRMA [16:00] "There's only one punishment for lighting the beacon.. you must give her a spanking!" [16:00] agentc0re|work, dont they teach anything in school [16:00] agentc0re|work: Monty Python and the Holy Grail [16:00] "And when you're finished... spank me!" [16:00] Ah, it's been ages since i've seen that movie. [16:00] agentc0re|work: I saw it once.. memorized pretty much the entire thing lol [16:00] slackytude: I haven't been in school for like 10 years :P [16:00] but I've seen it like 100 times or more [16:00] slackytude: http://pastebin.com/m36cda765 [16:00] Dominian: I remember a bunch of parts, just not that one. [16:01] heh [16:01] Urchlay: lancelot comes to save him [16:01] the best scene in the movie, is when Lancelot storms the castle [16:01] "It's just a flesh wound" [16:01] "No, there's only 50 or 60 of them! I can take them!" [16:01] slackytude: haha [16:01] rhys (n=rhys@r-lyeh.meds.CWRU.Edu) joined ##slackware. [16:01] "If it weighs as much as a duck then she must be a witch!" [16:01] agentc0re|work: "a flesh wound.. your arm is off!" 'no it isn't' "look!" 'I've had worse!' [16:01] lol [16:02] mrbb, (EE) [drm] drmOpen failed. [16:02] (EE) MACH64(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit Failed [16:02] agentc0re|work: I think we skipped a few lines [16:02] slackytude do you douche? [16:02] agentc0re|work: 'Tis but a scratch' should've been at the beginning [16:02] slackytude: what I do? [16:03] mrbb, change xorg.conf Driver "mach64" -> Driver "vesa" [16:03] "No, it's too perilous!" [16:03] ok [16:03] mrbb, then ask for better solution in #slackware-it [16:03] Urchlay: hah [16:03] dominian do you douche? [16:04] 'What.. is the flight pattern of an unlaident swallow?' "African or European?" [16:04] slackytude: There isn't a italian channel called #slackware-it [16:04] 'er.. I don't know that' [16:04] arrrrgh! [16:04] mrbb do you douche? [16:04] mrbb, duh, sorry [16:04] Dominian, how come you know so much about swallows, Mylord [16:05] 'Well to be king you have to know these things' [16:06] I think gnulinux is better the micro$hit [16:06] D: [16:06] NigroLinux, why not join #microsoft ? [16:06] tell them about it [16:07] slackytude: shh [16:07] slackytude microsoft is so bad [16:07] slackytude: If you feed the troll, they want more. [16:07] problem is.. he's an amateur [16:07] slackytude they just want to destroy the open source community [16:07] troll-nip [16:07] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:07] I mean microsoft just want to create a monopoly and rule the world [16:07] in the world government [16:08] What, where is this troll? If one exists he must not be doing it right. [16:08] :D [16:08] BILL AND MELINDA GATES philantrophy is nothing else then a covert eugenics program [16:08] to kill the nigroes in africa [16:08] I'm scanning his IP right now [16:08] NigroLinux> duh [16:08] :) [16:08] Dominian: heh. Block his entire subnet! :P [16:09] dominian I am in Czech Republic [16:09] NigroLinux> BMG foundation is evil [16:09] gooph_ (n=gooph@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:09] listen to the whistle blowers [16:09] gooph_ (n=gooph@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:09] NigroLinux: to je nadhera :P [16:09] paul424 ahoj [16:09] :D [16:09] HEIL HITLER! [16:10] FYI, he's on Windows [16:10] NigroLinux> what about bill gates engineering "flying syringe mosquitos" [16:10] Dominian, suprise [16:10] Slaxor=chowabunga? [16:10] shit man im having major packet loss at the datacenter [16:10] mrbb (n=kiko@151.53.224.211) left ##slackware. [16:10] Pig_Pen (n=Pig_Pen@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:10] he talked about it at TED [16:10] dominian windows is much better then linux [16:10] lol [16:10] jeev, maybe your pipes are leaking [16:10] NigroLinux: Proc ty provypisujes takie hloupave vicy ? [16:10] dominian what can you do with linux? [16:10] maybe i could lube it up with your butt wax [16:11] me__ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [16:11] paul424 sorry my friend i only work in czech republic. cant speak it... [16:11] im in brno on the boarder to vienna [16:11] and hungary and slovakia [16:11] i scroll up and i see dominion talking to himself for an hour [16:11] NigroLinux: so what;'s your native language ... [16:11] Slaxor, he does that [16:12] paul424 hebrew [16:12] which means i strangely havent ignored him yet [16:12] paul424 I will move to prague in 1 month [16:12] j0z (n=UNIX@201.25.182.56) joined ##slackware. [16:12] work for redhat [16:12] btw red hat is the worst distro [16:12] lol [16:12] one of them for sure [16:12] hmm neither do I speak fluent czech's cause I speak polish :P [16:13] paul424 ah [16:13] NigroLinux> ubuntu is the worst [16:13] ubuntu is the way best system [16:13] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:13] someone needs to make an iq test that tells you which distro to use [16:13] i use nigrolinux [16:14] KneegroLinux?/ [16:14] I use can-spell-linux [16:14] rk4n3, l33t [16:14] :) [16:15] sQuEE (n=narya@host123.201-253-245.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "fnord!!" [16:15] jewbuntu is really good [16:15] its free [16:15] perfectly marketted [16:15] it contains the torah + talmud [16:15] talmud is racist garbage [16:15] lol [16:15] and you forgot kaballah [16:15] I really don't think this conversation is needed here.. move it to #slackware-ot please [16:15] yes ofcurse duhh [16:16] any elite jew has kabbalah [16:16] so they can predict events based on the astrology [16:16] heh [16:16] Slaxor: why the name change? [16:17] Dominian, he did it all the time yesterday [16:17] heh [16:17] Like that's going to stop a ban [16:17] why cant we just have ONE distro [16:17] so we can COMPETE WITH WINDOWS [16:17] huh? [16:17] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host72-237-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:17] cant you guys stop making these exsotic distros? [16:18] its called ubuntu [16:18] cant we merge slackware into ubuntu? [16:18] NigroLinux, no. [16:18] A large political upheaval would result. [16:19] im sure [16:19] ehem the kde->center->display is just an overlay to xorg.conf ? don't thing so [16:19] l:D [16:19] KDE is the best GUI i have ever seen [16:19] it is so smooth and efficient and light weight [16:20] me__ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:20] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:20] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [16:20] NigroLinux: why so much FUD spewing? [16:20] me__ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [16:20] NigroLinux: I love trolls. [16:20] Man man this Shingoshi really wants to get recognized that he is better than every Slackware user [16:21] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [16:21] NigroLinux> are you bored [16:21] I'm bored of him [16:21] tomaw- (i=fn-c2@freenode/staff/tomaw) joined ##slackware. [16:21] eviljames> ignore him [16:21] hey just give him ignore as I did and talk with me [16:21] I am not trolling and you know it [16:21] alienBOB: what happened with Shingoshi? [16:21] i dont think you are trolling [16:21] tomaw- (i=fn-c2@freenode/staff/tomaw) left ##slackware. [16:21] KDE IS the efficient choice [16:21] of GUI [16:21] Pricey (i=pricechi@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.pricechild) joined ##slackware. [16:21] I can always kick NigroLinux if he gets annoying. So far, he's just pathetic/comical [16:21] everyone knows it [16:22] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@rb5bk147.net.upc.cz' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [16:22] NigroLinux kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Go away, asshat. [16:22] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:22] lol [16:22] any opinion online is called trolling [16:22] lol [16:22] hahaha [16:22] alienBOB: sorry, I did. :) [16:22] Hehe [16:22] I just read scrollback, and IMHO, he's a bit over the mark. [16:22] I didn't even see the backlog, I came in at "exotic distros" [16:22] Slaxor: it stems more than that [16:22] Action: rk4n3 applauds rworkman [16:22] ... yeah, the HEIL HITLER thing got a little woozy [16:22] more than that [16:22] antiwire: he got banned from LQ for a week. Now he's back trying to make up for that lost week with FUD [16:23] racial speak and bigotry.. [16:23] alienBOB: oh god.. that was "him"? [16:23] bigotry is allowed as long as it isnt against jews [16:23] alienBOB: oh man, banned from LQ...that's brutal. [16:23] k-line [16:23] Slaxor: You're an idiot. [16:23] muslims did 911!11111111 ahhhhhhhhhhhh [16:23] KeLopez_CL (n=kelopezc@52-89-223-201.adsl.terra.cl) joined ##slackware. [16:23] Slaxor: don't push your luck too, [16:23] not bigotry [16:23] he must have really been flinging them [16:23] strangely [16:23] rworkman: Slaxor = chowabunga.. you know he's going to push his luck [16:23] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [16:24] wb firebird619 [16:24] Thanks slackytude [16:24] I had not seen the heil hitler part or the ban would have been swift (just arrived here) [16:24] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:24] KeLopez_CL (n=kelopezc@52-89-223-201.adsl.terra.cl) left ##slackware ("Saliendo"). [16:24] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [16:24] Slaxor is bound to go next [16:24] \0/ [16:24] gooph (n=gooph@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:25] Hi alienBOB [16:25] Hey agentc0re|work. Do any more skydiving yet? [16:25] firebird619: Howdy dude. [16:25] me__ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:25] Nick change: Slaxor -> TaughtSlack [16:25] kde 4 is cool [16:25] Action: slackytude takes out his IQ meter [16:25] xfce4 is cool [16:25] firebird619: No, probably do another jump or 2 wednesday. but i just need 3 more to get the cheaper jumps. [16:25] agentc0re|work: how's it going? [16:25] whatever krdc is so far good.. it is still a little laggy [16:25] hrm, reading is way up, guess trolls are gone [16:25] me__ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [16:25] firebird619: hallo. [16:25] agentc0re|work: sweet. [16:26] Hey stybla [16:26] slackytude: i came, so drop couple points ;) [16:26] gooph (n=gooph@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:26] y0 stybla [16:26] likevinyl_ (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) joined ##slackware. [16:26] stybla, nah : [16:26] stybla, nah :P [16:26] slackytude: hi :) [16:26] jeev: yes, I use krdc quite often. One thing that I've noticed but can't really define in terms of a bug report yet is how it handles key grabbing. Sometimes krdc just won't accept key input until I restart it. I can't pin it down though [16:26] hey antiwire [16:27] hi tinky winky, hi phoo, hi lala :P [16:27] hey firebird619 [16:27] no my keys are perfect. like keypress? [16:27] paul424: nnooooooooooooo.... [16:27] VMware Server 2.0.1 on slackware64 ... it works - yay :) [16:27] E3 has been pathetic lately [16:27] jeev: key grabbing, seems to lock up sometimes [16:27] TaughtSlack, pathetic? [16:27] speccy (n=mike@78.146.79.197) joined ##slackware. [16:27] i've never tried keygrabbing, unaware what it is [16:27] to bind keys to something? no idea [16:27] TaughtSlack: lately = this year, or like "last four years+"? [16:28] jeev: you'll know it when you see it ;) [16:28] second [16:28] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:28] antiwire: I notice that ALT can be sticky. [16:28] in krdc [16:28] eviljames: yes! [16:28] game sales are wayyyyyy down [16:28] heh [16:28] eviljames: I don't know what causes it [16:28] do you notice lag ? [16:28] heret|c (n=heretic@c-24-30-117-194.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:29] The last good E3 was the one way back when nvidia built that gigantic stage and had all the pretty girls flaunting graphics cards. that was awesome [16:29] antiwire: No idea. But it's my complaint about it. pressing alt a couple times usually resolves though. [16:29] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-103-143.ip38.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [16:29] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.154.17) joined ##slackware. [16:30] TaughtSlack: is that a reason for E3 being _pathetic_? [16:30] TaughtSlack: You fart in the tub and bite the bubbles don't you? [16:30] Dominian: haha :D [16:31] antiwire: how about some bare circuits? [16:31] You know, I've seen people talking about bathtubs a lot in the past three days. I sort of wish I had a tub now but all I've got room for in my apartment is a space saver shower [16:31] stybla> there are lots of reasons...have you gotten excited abuot anything from E3 in the last years? no...so there is no reason it isnt patehtic [16:31] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]" [16:32] e3 needs a slackware booth [16:32] likevinyl_ (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) left ##slackware ("Saliendo"). [16:32] e3 ? [16:32] antiwire, same here. didnt have a bath since I moved out [16:32] N3mZ (i=501@unaffiliated/nemesis128) joined ##slackware. [16:32] antiwire, and I like 'em :( [16:33] bathtub, hmmmm. [16:33] i saw a bird taking a dirt bath the other day....lol [16:33] slackytude: yeah it's a nice relaxing change from showers. less hectic I guess [16:33] TaughtSlack: since they let out every secret before E3, so - no. [16:33] +tend [16:33] antiwire, aye. [16:34] TaughtSlack, I saw a bird trying to burry himself in the sand, but there wasn't more than 1mm of sand >< [16:34] Camarade_Tux> yeah exactly [16:34] E3 as in the game thing ? [16:34] aye [16:34] Camarade_Tux: yep. [16:35] my boss is at e3, thank god [16:35] but isn't E3 games-related ? [16:35] hate that guy [16:35] Camarade_Tux, it is [16:35] why would it need a slackware boot then ? [16:36] Camarade_Tux, for fun and profit? [16:37] Slackware: the gaming platform of the future [16:37] slackytude, hmmm, could participants have their ticket to E3 paid ? :D [16:37] eviljames, he, /me played duke nukem 3D on slackware today :p [16:37] Camarade_Tux, probably ;) [16:37] Camarade_Tux: hawt! [16:37] Camarade_Tux: dosbox? [16:37] slackytude \o/ [16:38] stybla, no, http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=eduke&sv=12.2 :) [16:38] eviljames :) [16:38] uh, is it possible for nfs to not show all mounts? ie: showmount -e nfsserver, it's showing all exports. [16:39] Camarade_Tux: damn! [16:39] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [16:39] dios_mio (i=FREELOVE@88.243.198.61) left irc: "The universe is not real, only possible." [16:39] ^me_^ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [16:40] stybla, I guess you're wondering how you managed to live for so long without knowing you could play duke nukem 3d on slackware ;p [16:40] and it works on 64bit too, slamd64 at least [16:40] Then it is very likely to work on slackware64 [16:41] Camarade_Tux: well, i've been forced to buy PSP [yeah, i'm desperate!] [16:41] the slackbuild is not enough on its own, it requires the duke3d.grp file from the original game [16:41] (and high resolution pack is great ! ) [16:41] Camarade_Tux: damn, couldn't you tell me yesterday?! :s [16:42] stybla, hehe, sorry :p [16:42] :) [16:42] but you should actually complain to Urchlay ;) [16:42] :D [16:42] god, reading the news infuriates me...even avoiding the dumb crap everyone else is talking about [16:42] me__ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:42] TaughtSlack: you know what works for me? don't read it. [16:42] [news] [16:43] "Their 'holy grail' spokesperson would be a 'pregnant young mother who would be willing to speak around the country about the benefits of BPA,' " the notes said. [16:43] Action: Camarade_Tux switches to desk5, runs setxkbmap us and then eduk32 \o/ [16:43] benefits of gender bending chemicals....yeah ogay [16:43] TaughtSlack: wut?! [16:43] TaughtSlack: as though you have a way of avoiding BPA in the first place? [16:43] i do [16:44] but a ban would help [16:44] they are going to fight a ban [16:44] what does BPA stand for? [16:44] similar how the corn growers association came out and said HFCS is safea fter they found mercury in the samples tested [16:44] bisphenol-a [16:45] stybla: Biphespenol A or something along those lines. A chemical that leaches from plastics into foods. [16:45] Bisphenol-A [16:45] Action: eviljames writes it down [16:45] into water [16:45] s/[foods][water]/everything/ ? [16:45] eviljames: ah, my favourite. [16:45] yes [16:45] way to impotence, cancer and shit. [16:46] 16:42 but you should actually complain to Urchlay ;) [16:46] stybla> it mimics estrogen [16:46] but... it says so right in the README... [16:46] That's a good plan. [16:46] Urchlay: Please stop putting bisphenol a into my waterz, kthx. [16:46] so...bpa for you = more gayerer [16:46] the README is plain text, should it be HTML with 42-point blinking chartreuse text instead? [16:46] Urchlay: doh? :) [16:47] Urchlay, we need more [16:47] too bad there's no tag... [16:47] TaughtSlack: welcome to the world where the only thing matters is _money_. [16:47] Urchlay: I got a fever. [16:47] More! [16:47] Urchlay, with html5 you could do