[00:00] yup [00:00] hackedhead: rworkman's got xfburn with the needed depends,or build brasero [00:00] "bloat" is a non-factor in these days of terabyte HD's [00:00] xfburns good imo [00:00] s/k3bare/k3b are [00:01] Rat409: hmm, xfburn looks worth a shot.. i guess [00:02] danc3: i hate bells and whistles a lot... BUT k3b is like the swiss army knife of burning software and amarok handles my 20GB of music in an organized fashion. [00:02] xfburn lacks a few options imo [00:02] Cann0n: agree completely. I despise KDE, but I install it just to have k3b. [00:02] its not sposed to be the k3b killer just a good basic app [00:02] lol im glad im not the only one that does that. :) [00:02] hehe [00:03] I don't really like KDE 3.5.*'s interface, but KDE4 looks and feels nice (at least when I tried it), but the version I tried had quite a few problems [00:03] yeah but it lacks 'what-seems-like-common-options ' imo [00:03] Cann0n, KDE4? [00:03] iirc, iso burning and md5sum checking [00:03] nevermind [00:03] Rat409: yeah, but it's a lot less to install than k3b [00:03] and brasero's checksumming is wayy better than k3bs imo experience [00:04] and also less work than re-reading wodim's man page [00:04] eh? a cd burning app that can't burn isos? this is for linux, not windows? [00:04] lol [00:04] Rat409: better "checksumming"? LOL! Is that a feature? [00:04] blackorca: never tried it. ive been fluxboxing for over 8 years [00:04] it burns iso's [00:04] does it? [00:04] yes [00:05] Rat409: what's wrong with how k3b checks sums? It works perfectly. [00:05] Cann0n, yeah, I prefer blackbox, but I'm looking for something for my parents :) [00:05] last time i checked, it lacked a major function, which was the reason i DLed it. to replace k3b [00:05] hackedhead: I've been typing cdrecord commands so damn long, my fingers can do it without active attention of the brain [00:05] or growisofs [00:06] i can ride my bike with no handlebars [00:06] in fact if I wanted to tell someone what the command was, I'd have to type it first, then read it off the screen :) [00:06] lol nullboy [00:06] Urchlay: lol [00:06] Urchlay: thats i think 75% of people [00:06] I can install slackware whilst drunk [00:06] DigitalSith (n=derek@pool-96-252-132-221.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:07] oh yeah, it can burn iso's [00:07] alright. time to waste some of these $0.20 DVD+Rs [00:07] i know there is a major reason i dont use it. i just dont recall [00:08] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-178-233.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [00:08] heh. so. xfburn thinks the drive is empty. [00:09] Rat409: do you know if i need to set special permissions? [00:09] it also can't get speed info for either of my drives, at that. [00:10] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*37.hsd1.ga.comcast.net expired. [00:10] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*37.hsd1.ga.comcast.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [00:10] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-178-233.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [00:10] /dev/hdc /mnt/hdc auto noauto,rw,user 0 0 [00:10] hackedhead: thats my hdc in my fstab [00:10] Cann0n: same here [00:10] oh wiat [00:10] ro [00:10] ... hummmmm [00:11] lol [00:11] yeah that might cause a problem for a burner [00:11] i chmod 766 /mnt/hdc as well [00:11] er, the fstab entry doesn't matter one way or the other [00:11] is your user in the 'cdrom' group? [00:12] dunno if it matters, but it might [00:12] danc3: yes [00:12] unless you actually have a disc mounted [00:12] Cann0n: is hald running? [00:12] danc3: you have to set it up that way [00:12] rworkman: yeah [00:12] (and if you do, you can't open the drive door to insert a blank CD, so it sort of solves itself) [00:12] hrm, it should work then. xfburn uses hal to get the drives and their capabilities [00:13] is your app smart enough to figure out that the drive is /dev/hdc (IOW do you need a /dev/cdrom link?) [00:13] rworkman: i'm actually the one fighting with it =P [00:13] but yes, this is 12.0 hal is running [00:13] ...or is that what hald is supposed to be for? [00:13] i dunno why it is running. i still use mount on a regular basis... heh [00:14] hackedhead: you built xfburn from source, right? [00:14] mhmm [00:14] Urchlay: so you can pop in a usb drive r something and it "pop up" [00:14] (I don't think I have an xfburn package for 12.0) [00:14] rworkman: i just built it off the 12.2 sbopkg tree [00:14] didn't complain [00:14] okay, good [00:14] Cann0n: yeah. I just wondered, is hald also used by cd-burning apps to figure out which /dev/hd* device is the CD burner? [00:14] and yes, the libs as well [00:14] Should be fine [00:15] oh wait. i'm stupid [00:15] is setting up a mailserver for 4 users worth it? considering i'd have to filter spam as well. [00:15] Urchlay: i actually dont know the technicallities of it [00:15] DVD+R in a DVD-R drive [00:15] of course it looks empty [00:15] hackedhead: ugh [00:15] hehe [00:15] spook: depends on how much they pay. [00:15] rworkman: not much. [00:15] spook: i wouldnt do it [00:15] okay, now with correct media.... [00:16] spook: then probably not :) [00:16] currently they are using google tools for domains to do their email, with thunderbird. they are currently unhappy with the speed, and want to use outlook because they think its going to be faster. [00:16] haha [00:17] still seems to report as empty [00:17] Well, a local mail server will solve the speed problem. [00:17] the drive is spinning and blinking, but never settles down [00:17] Urchlay: i only recently started using hal... i was on 2.4 kernels until only a year ago [00:17] i outlined the 3 options as a) host their own, b) pay someone else lots of money just for email and c) leave it the fuck alone, its working. [00:17] I like (c) [00:17] spook: C [00:18] C as long as they use encrypted protocol options [00:18] i explained that b) they are going to lose emails, have data loss etc. and a) shit loads of spam [00:18] or even gpg for in-house [00:18] nullboy: theres a nifty tool in google tools for domains that enforces the use of ssl [00:19] however their passwords currently are very horrible [00:19] thats my next crusade once they sign off on the initial setup. [00:19] lol: xfburn: warning: unknown disc profile 0x10 [00:20] tulas (n=tulas@118-168-238-9.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [00:20] arktvrvs (i=stygian@adsl-69-149-148-250.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:20] hi, [00:20] i remember there is a net meter measuring net traffic within icewm [00:20] does it measure net traffic via libpcap? [00:20] i went from slackware 9.1 with kernel 2.4.20 something to slackware 12.1 when it came out last year [00:20] i made a big jump... [00:21] tulas: conky? [00:21] hmm... mebbe bad media. it seems to like the CDR okay [00:21] http://youtube.com/watch?v=B2RwYF8-oZE <<-- anyone interested in KDE4 should watch this [00:21] i remember it just reside in the right bottom corner [00:22] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:22] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:22] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-94.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:22] never seen kde4.... [00:23] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.193.79) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [00:23] eddief2 (n=eddie@cpe-72-229-30-71.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:24] this is an hour long... [00:24] bummer [00:24] itd watch it all but my ISP limits my bandwidth [00:24] oh [00:25] Cann0n: yeah mine too. it sucks. [00:25] BP{k}: WildBlue? [00:25] there ought to be a law against that [00:25] Cann0n: nah local isp in manchester. [00:25] ah [00:26] who are retarded enough to have traffic measurement running from 0900-0900 [00:26] who wants to volunteer to see if my webserv is working ? :D [00:26] i dont like kde4.... im watching this video i found and it looks like Vista + Compiz [00:26] lw0x15: sure. [00:26] post a link [00:26] lw0x15: no [00:27] :( [00:27] j/k [00:27] :) [00:27] whoa.... http://youtube.com/watch?v=VSCNpzD37l4 [00:27] thats my laptop [00:28] ubuntu vs slackware compared to fat chicks vs skinny. geeks argue [00:30] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:33] hmm.. well, it seems to be making a CD okay... [00:33] we shall see if it coasters or not [00:33] not if i can use entanglement to screw it up for you [00:34] and right on cue. it dies [00:34] i did it! [00:34] closing session 13% through [00:34] eddief2 (n=eddie@cpe-72-229-30-71.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [00:34] new GoogleEarth version is pretty nice [00:34] lol [00:35] nullboy: how new is new? i DLe it 2 weeks ago [00:35] closing session == go into death throes. apparently [00:36] the reason it is new is because the latest version is higher than the last version [00:36] ... i always wonder if i have all the needed kernel settings for this to work... [00:37] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [00:38] ... aaaand the drive is just thrashing now [00:38] keeps spiining up and then down again [00:38] guitarman4 (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:38] guitarman4 (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:38] is it the stock .config? [00:38] Cann0n: no [00:38] which is why i wonder [00:38] gm152 (n=glen@d121-132-40.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:39] lmfao. this drive is so unhappy now. [00:40] Frullet (n=hooch@124-170-111-10.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:40] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:41] ooooh yeah [00:41] i forgot about the kernel errors [00:41] hdc: cdrom_decode_status: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } [00:41] hdc: cdrom_decode_status: error=0x40 { LastFailedSense=0x04 } [00:41] i get those over and over when i try to burn [00:41] and ATAPI resets on occasion [00:41] hmmm [00:45] it just hates you... thats all. [00:45] yeah, that's been my conclusion for a few years now [00:47] meh. enough for now [00:47] i guess i'll see how it behaves with a stock 12.2 kerne in the AM [00:47] Frullet (n=hooch@124-170-111-10.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:47] after the upgrade [00:48] the old ide driver sucks [00:48] macavity: ? [00:48] i never had major problems [00:48] im using the libata version now, and all of the sudden everything works [00:48] macavity: yeah, i cant recover from suspend properly at all... so i gave up lol [00:49] Cann0n: did you use "my" script? [00:49] yeah [00:49] odd [00:49] humm, yeah hah. actually this is still a 2.6.23.9 kernel [00:49] .... old-ish. [00:49] forgot about tat [00:49] yeah. did you have to enable anything? [00:49] hackedhead: if you switch to libata your device names changes [00:49] Cann0n: nope [00:50] macavity: no big [00:50] it'll be a brand new install, so. [00:50] hackedhead: it does involve some fiddling with a chroot from the install media to change lilo.conf and fstab [00:50] i was close though... i just get ass raped with segment faults if i do make it back to X [00:51] in that case, boot with ide0=noprobe ide1=noprobe [00:51] then you get the right device names right from the beginning [00:51] hda becomes sda [00:51] etc [00:51] right device for? [00:52] my main harddisks are sata anyway [00:52] and your hdc becomes sr0 [00:52] only my opticals are ide [00:52] in that case, just ditch the old driver all together [00:52] it will go away soon anyway [00:52] but patrick still compiles it in [00:53] and the strange part is that what driver graps the device is link-order dependant [00:53] hmmm.... i feel lucky... ima try to suspend [00:53] lmfao, bai Cann0n =P [00:53] but the noprobe options effectively snuffs the ide driver [00:53] lol brb [00:54] macavity: would i even need that option if i only have ide optical drives? [00:54] can i just sort it out after install? [00:54] and roll ym own kernel? [00:54] rickroll your own kernel [00:54] that too. [00:55] i need to learn how to roll my own sushi [00:55] not hard [00:55] onigiri are easier and quicker though [00:56] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:56] true [00:56] hackedhead: the point of it is to make libata grap your ATAPI device too [00:56] no special equipment needed, just gladwrap [00:56] superGear (i=ESA6qs@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:56] superGear (i=ESA6qs@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:56] hackedhead: i always boot with it from the beginning of the install. that way it ends up in lilo.conf [00:56] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-178-233.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [00:57] macavity: fair enough [00:57] superGear (i=superGea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:57] hackedhead: that has the added benefit, that when i roll my own kernel (without old ide support), the Pat V provided kernel can still be used for "failsafe" booting, and still do the right thing [00:57] i'm probably gonna be compiling a custom kernel (and leaving out the old driver) and replacing lilo with grub though, so... [00:57] ah, true [00:58] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [00:58] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-178-233.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [00:58] if you need to troubleshoot something really odd, people here might request that you boot an official kernel [00:58] heh.... it almost worked that time... i saw my tty6 flash before it all went dark after recover [00:58] but at least confirm this for me: it won't affect how my sata harddisk are named, during the normal install, yes? [00:58] i always have huge-smp and generic-smp+initrd on the boot list... just in case [00:59] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aeiw221.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [00:59] my own setup is so heavily modulized that i even see libata on lsmod :P [00:59] nope [00:59] mmk [00:59] incubus (n=incubus@207.160.210.144) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:59] it just makes absolutely sure that the ide driver is not allowed to scan the chains [00:59] heh. i'm in the compile it all in camp [01:00] thus, when libata loads it will grap any still free drives [01:00] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: No route to host [01:00] U-Neeks (i=555@201-24-52-221.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "leaving" [01:01] oh... 07:04 [01:01] alright, thanks all, now i gotta hit the sack. oi. [01:01] better go to the GFs house and get eggs and bacon :P [01:01] good night/morning all [01:01] Action: macavity wanders off [01:02] bye [01:03] later [01:03] TimothyPollard (n=TimothyP@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [01:04] man this sleep script is getting bigger and bigger by the minute... [01:09] BeatleDot (n=BeatleDo@adsl-76-254-45-105.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:09] DigitalSith (n=derek@pool-96-252-132-221.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:10] BeatleDot (n=BeatleDo@adsl-76-254-45-105.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [01:11] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.108) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [01:12] blackorca (n=blackorc@173-100-238-197.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:14] Adol (i=superGea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:18] what laptop? [01:18] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:18] Compaq Presario R3000 (ATI Radeon) [01:19] ohh hp pavilion dv 6000 series/nvidia here [01:19] lando (n=lando@c-66-176-131-206.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:19] heh im temped to try it one more time [01:19] my script became massive [01:20] sometimes they do [01:20] well not massive, but all the hibernate scripts ive played with where not even half the size [01:20] brb i hope [01:20] yuh [01:22] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:24] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [01:25] nope [01:25] nada... [01:27] ff 3.0.6 is now avaliable for winblows machines [01:27] I know I am gonna get it for this but, does anyone know anything about Ubuntu? [01:28] i do [01:28] it sucks [01:28] thanks that helped [01:28] lol what you need? [01:28] DigitalSith: #ubuntu, this is not [01:29] why dont you ask already... GAH! [01:29] I need to change the freaking run time level to multiuser I cant stand loggin into the gui [01:29] no don't ask [01:29] DigitalSith: rm -rf / [01:29] lando (n=lando@c-66-176-131-206.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:30] no initab in ubuntu [01:30] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:30] Cann0n, :O [01:30] Nick change: nixnix -> nix_chix0r [01:30] i got a acer one for free with a 8gb ssd, so I am trying out crunchbang linux based off ubuntu [01:31] lol kidding [01:31] but it is ubuntu... [01:31] my kitty is gonna HATE life tomorrow [01:31] uhoh what are you doing [01:31] DigitalSith: ubuntu, crunchbang is not. #crungbang, this channel is not [01:32] he is a copper-eyed persian... getting all of his shots, doped up, and shaved during cold weather [01:32] yeah i am aware, but thanks for pointing that out, but they dont know, I tried there 1st [01:32] why not stick to slack DigitalSith ? [01:32] awwwww [01:32] Ubuntu = evil [01:32] slackware on a 8gb hd? I dunno [01:32] ... [01:33] i had slackware on a 4gb ssd [01:33] Ubuntu on an 8 gig drive? lol [01:33] it worked fine. [01:33] i had it on a 4gb [01:33] i tried it was sluggish [01:33] Action: Motoko-chan laughs her a** off [01:33] DigitalSith: what wm? [01:33] Cann0n, that's a beautiful cat [01:33] you dont need to censor ass. [01:33] openbox [01:34] nix_chix0r: yeah, he is pretty, just he has mats all in his fur [01:34] DigitalSith: whats the cpu/gfx in that thing? [01:34] openbox... :Q [01:34] crunchbang eliminates almost all things i dislike about ubuntu, its got a intel 950 i think [01:34] i know how that goes, i took the clippers to my maine coone two weeks ago or so. plus she was chewing her fur off [01:35] oh intel atom cpu [01:35] DigitalSith: and cpu? 950 is a horrible graphics chipset [01:35] yeah... i tried to cut his fur... but he didnt like it one bit [01:35] Jimmen (n=Devilman@host119-235-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:35] AND he has fleas [01:35] awwww [01:35] that he cant scratch [01:35] my kitty has dandruf:) leaves a trail on the couch all the time [01:35] spook its a netbook, who cares, I just wanna war drive with aircrack and surf the web [01:35] Shuren (n=Devilman@host223-170-dynamic.52-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:36] ... DigitalSith you cant WD on slack? [01:36] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:36] i have a script i wrote that increases "stealth" while WDing [01:36] nix_chix0r: he is a smart cat... but he is an asshole [01:36] I can and do on my laptop, but on the netbook I was looking for lighter and smaller install out of the box with out the need for any compiling on the go [01:37] sigh.... messing with this suspend script just fubared my sys time [01:38] DigitalSith: i still dont understand lol [01:38] spook, I might not need to, but it makes it seem more naughty [01:38] Cann0n, i went to grandmas for dinner tonight and ordered the spagetti minus mushrooms, and the lady gave me a plate of spagetti which appeared to have tomato paste dumped on top with parmesan. also it still contained mushrooms and wildrice . made her send it back and she got all pissed [01:38] whats dont you get? [01:38] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [01:38] nix_chix0r: lol i hearts de shrooms [01:39] i love the taste of mushrooms i just don't care for the texture [01:39] Pick them out. [01:39] shouldn't have to [01:39] DigitalSith: youh want a lighter weight distro just for surfing the web on stolen APs? [01:39] i'm paying for a meal i fi don't want mushrooms in it , there shouldn't be any [01:39] pretty much [01:39] lol shes got a point [01:40] 15bucks for spagetti pffft. i got an egg salad sandwich instead [01:40] DigitalSith: why not install slack and select the packages you want and dont mant? [01:40] i still tipped i'm not a total cunt [01:40] like, kde and friends [01:40] nix_chix0r: thats nice [01:40] I could, I am just lazy [01:41] nix_chix0r: im trying to catch this hell cat that runs aroun here [01:41] don't be whack get slack:o [01:41] DigitalSith..... lazy.... but having troubles with ubuntu.... [01:41] Oh, paying. [01:41] You said grandma, so I thought you were talking back to an elder family member. [01:42] nix_chix0r: he have a 50-75lb cat running around here [01:42] im not having any troubles with crunchbang what so ever, I just dont know how to change the runlevels [01:42] Motoko-chan, yeah sorry if i t was my grandparents i would have sucked it up. grandmas grill and saloon or something. [01:42] i think its a bob cat [01:42] oh sweet! [01:42] we builh a trap but it didnt seem to catch it... [01:42] and there was a giant pile of dumapge IN the trap... which was set and the bait was taken [01:43] smart kitty [01:43] problem solved see ya folks [01:43] trap is about 3x3' tall and wide, and 4' long [01:44] no way it got out unless it was too big for the door to clear it [01:45] brb. need to test suspend.sh [01:48] ehhh [01:48] what the hell are you going to do with a trapped bobcat? [01:49] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [01:49] I mean you aren't going to reason with him... [01:50] Cann0n_ (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [01:50] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:50] hmm [01:51] it almost worked [01:51] X came up but my mouse and kbd didnt work [01:52] i want a bobcat now:( [01:52] lol i cant wait to catch it [01:52] like a pokemon [01:52] i'll fedex it to ya if you want [01:53] Hellcat! I Choose YOU! [01:53] naw i much rather pick kitty up [01:53] rofl speaking of, i went to a buddies house and they were gathered around playing magic which i thought was very lame to begin with . got talked into playing since i was new they made me shout out my actions like a pokemon match [01:55] I've been part of bowhunting parties hunting bobcat. :O [01:55] lol [01:55] chopp, you can get me a bobcat plz [01:55] nix_chix0r: i used to play MTG [01:55] i hunt every day [01:55] mainly for rodents [01:56] nix_chix0r: well it will have a broadhead through it though. [01:56] i walk to my friens house with a .22 [01:56] no more meoooow [01:56] :( [01:57] eelriver (n=eelriver@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:57] Cann0n_: when I first got by bow, I used to shoot gophers with it for practice. [01:58] Gargantua_ (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:58] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [01:58] chopp: i tried making a recurve out of cultured maple [01:58] then it got too cold outside [01:59] Cann0n_: cool. Never used a recurve myself, but a few friends have. [01:59] ImmutableDark (n=m0@c220-237-99-49.randw2.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:59] i suck at bows [01:59] i loose arrows too much [01:59] I used to shoot at an indoor range alot, and there was recurve users there too. [02:00] we made blow guns and homemade darts... once i saw the bobcat in his drive way, i started carrying my .22 [02:00] My six year old son has an compound bow. [02:00] i havent been to a range in years [02:01] nice [02:01] i went and shot last weekend [02:01] its good to teach weapon respect at a young age [02:01] 45 handgun 380 handgun 12GA with clay and a 44 magnum carbine rifle [02:01] that was a fun day [02:02] Cann0n_: I agree. Not quite the same in CAN as the USA but still. [02:02] nullboy: awsome. I wish handgun ownership was easier here. :( [02:03] I shot clay pigions as a kid with a 12 gauge. [02:03] my dad is gun crazy. he has somewhere in the 40s [02:03] wow [02:03] i only have a 25-06, .22 and a 9mm [02:04] something my father wasn't into except duck hunting. [02:04] he loads his own bullets [02:04] I used to too. [02:04] ive never killed a bird or a large animal... yet [02:05] i plan on bagging that bob cat... ima cook up the most red neck dish i can think of [02:05] I don't condone killing animals just because, but hunting to put food on the table is allright. [02:05] dont eat the bobcat! [02:05] it finally happened... living a year in the woods will do that to someone [02:05] giuppy (n=giuppy@host189-162-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [02:06] and i resent that Cann0n_ i live in the woods i am no redneck [02:06] chopp: i plan on eating anything i shoot [02:06] yes, I was just going to mention the bobcat. My ideas have changed since then. [02:06] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.82.85) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:06] nix_chix0r: how far is the nearest gas station? [02:06] Nick change: Cann0n_ -> Cann0n [02:06] 7miles [02:06] must be nice [02:07] i live so far in BFE i have to have satellite internet and it sucks [02:07] 12 miles here. [02:07] same here. we use WildBlue [02:07] same here [02:07] I use screen/irssi from my VPS, and setup bitlbe on it today. It's cool. [02:07] ughhhhh [02:08] /s/bitlebe/bitlebee [02:08] they had to do a polemount because too many trees in the way. what speed do you pay for i only got the cheapeast one thinking the 512 would be enough but honestly i'll never see that speed [02:08] and it constantly goes down [02:08] nix_chix0r: i feel your pain... [02:08] has anybody got segmentation faults when trying to run openoffice ( compiled from slackbuilds ) [02:08] nix_chix0r, wait? you moved away from internet? [02:09] and the tech guy refuses to help me because i have a "network" and refuse to download their web browsing optimiser crap [02:09] nix_chix0r: yep... we got the best package... 14 GB/month bandwidth... its TOO much for what its worth [02:09] i gave up big DLs just so i can look at porn toward the end of the month [02:10] i'm tempted to upgrade to the 1meg but i wonder if i'll even see a fraction of it [02:10] nix_chix0r: i asked the guy who installed it, if it would work for linux (i was being a smart ass) and he said no [02:10] Cann0n: you have any kids that bobcat might get a hold of? :( [02:10] nix_chix0r: you want. [02:10] nix_chix0r, i don't think you could force me to move where i couldn't get real internet [02:10] the 1.5 is so expensive [02:10] chopp: nope, but my friend does... we have live stock too [02:11] speaking of, get this.... we had a hen hatch 11 chicks not even 4 days ago... now there are only 3 left [02:11] bobcats are small, they are not big, and you would need to very small for them to consider you [02:12] edman007: i dunno... the one i saw was pretty big. for a cat anyways [02:12] cause we got the direct tv combo package and the satellite tv is like 29 a mont, and then the internet is 39 because of some discount normally 49. 1meg is 69 and 1.5 is 79 [02:12] we have bears and panthers... so they say around here [02:12] 69, hehehehe [02:12] Cann0n, we have moose:D [02:12] nix_chix0r: yeah thats what we got [02:12] moose! no way [02:12] moose, deer , and bears [02:13] chopp, its the size of a small dog and bigger than a house cat [02:13] nix_chix0r, where did you move to? canada? [02:13] pattwo (n=pat@d206-75-107-60.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [02:13] we get mountain lion attacks and there are bears too [02:13] i swear one of these days i'll be driving and i'll hit a fucking moose that will be the end of me and the car [02:13] those things are massive [02:13] edman007: yes, I've seen a few of them in my time. [02:13] lol edman007 i live like an hour from canada [02:13] we have deer all over. we see tracks on in dirt roads all the time [02:14] what sound does a moose make? [02:14] like, dogs go woof, cats go meow, cows go moo, etc? [02:14] Action: edman007 is on long island right now, there are barely any deer over here, nothing but people [02:14] moose go " suicide" [02:14] whats the onomotopea for the moose noise [02:14] nix_chix0r: I hit a moose with a crew truck I was driving years ago. It ripped the roof clean off the truck. Everyone was hurt but me. :( [02:15] lol [02:15] could you imagine in a kia? [02:15] twas nasty [02:15] nope [02:15] spook, wiki that shit -> Males produce heavy grunting sounds that can be heard from up to 500 meters away while females produce a wail-like sound. [02:15] i hate deer... too big to clean. no room in freezer... :( [02:15] a kia would be like instant death [02:16] DigitalSith (n=derek@pool-96-252-132-221.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:16] edman007: mooses go mooooose [02:16] nix_chix0r: at any rate of speed yup [02:16] those cars are so horrible no one wants to buy them here. the duluth dealership is like buy one get one free!!! [02:16] lol [02:16] seriously 2 for 1 [02:16] doesn't surprise me [02:17] blackorca (n=adam@173-100-238-197.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [02:17] nix_chix0r, yea, there are a few over here doing that [02:17] plus my 25-06 is too powerful to shoot in my area... the guy down the street shoots and sometimes we hear CLOSE ricochets before we hear the bang [02:17] they have this arnold impersionater like"kia of duluuuuuth .. go go now" [02:17] superGear (i=superGea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [02:17] but you have to pay sticker, and the free one is the shitty used one [02:17] someone called me a redneck 2 weeks ago... i was offended [02:17] edman007, i'm tempted to buy the car so i can get a free one in case i total one from hugging it [02:18] So you shot him and then combed your mullet? [02:18] lmao [02:18] lol [02:18] nix_chix0r, the free ones you get are usually worth only a few thousand, and they force you to pay sticker which is a few thousand more than its worth anyways [02:18] rednecks dont skate longboard and drive red VW beetles... or use slackware. [02:19] plus then you get to pay twice the insurance and taxes [02:19] lame :( [02:19] Action: chopp goes back to watcing Changeling [02:19] /s/watcing/watching [02:19] Cann0n: Tell that to Alan_Hicks. [02:19] lul Cann0n , you drive a bug? [02:19] i dont think trucks were made to haul rebel flags [02:19] nix_chix0r: yeah... the new beetle [02:19] superGear (i=superGea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:20] i do have a CB in my beetle though [02:20] alright, i need to wake up in the morning, so night guys, girls, and nix_chix0r [02:20] nini edman007 [02:20] i had one on my lexus a few years ago [02:20] later edman007 [02:20] Ruthven (n=mbutler@adsl-70-234-189-72.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:21] Cann0n, are those pretty speedy? [02:21] not really [02:21] mines the lowest option one you can get [02:21] Nick change: Jimmen -> Shuren [02:21] i need some cash so i can put rims and a sound system in it [02:21] i'm carless since the accident so i'm car hunting all over again and this time around i'm not gona get some slow ass car [02:22] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) joined ##slackware. [02:22] Gargantua_ (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Success [02:22] they arent slow... they are FUN to drive [02:22] get one that has a sound proof divider to put between you and your kid [02:22] im 6' 2" and i have a foot of head space [02:22] my maine concern is when i drive in minneapolis the constant merging at 70-75mph [02:23] they are roomy as hell for the front seats [02:23] with my focus it was scary [02:23] my X had a focus... ever sleep in it? [02:23] your concern should be staying sane with "MOMMY CAN WE STOP FOR ICECREAM" in the back [02:23] spook, no [02:23] i'll duct tape him [02:23] lol [02:23] i've slept in my focus before it wasnt too bad [02:24] course i'm a foot shorter [02:24] ... im 6' 2".... it sucked for me [02:24] it was a 2 dor Z3 or what ever [02:24] i curled up on the driver side and passed out [02:24] oh lame [02:24] s/dol/door [02:25] s/s/dol/door/s/dor/door [02:25] yeah i gota get a mommy car but i'm not getting a mini van [02:25] get a VW bus [02:25] ohhhhh man yes i want one [02:25] i want one so bad... mainly because im a stoner skater [02:25] i used to have a 76 volkswagon beetle red orange , origional horse hair bucket seats and paint it was pimp [02:26] longboard skater* to hell with those tricks... i just like carving [02:26] nice [02:26] both my parents have red mini coopers:P [02:26] what happened to it? [02:26] the old ones? [02:26] moved oversease wasn't practical to ship [02:26] damn. [02:26] he had an old one but it died so he got the new turbo one to top the one my mom got [02:27] course when they move to the u.s in 18months or so they'll have to get them approved for u.s standards [02:27] my x-lady-friends dad had one... she feel out on meth :( like many GA girls i knew [02:27] hydrostatic they are both manual and automatic kinda sweet [02:27] where did you wove from? [02:28] me belgium, 5 years ago [02:28] sweet [02:28] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [02:28] i need to swap m and w... they are next to each other and i hit the wrong ones too much [02:28] i'm the only one who's reproducing my parents should worship me. they will be flying here next month when i crap this thing out [02:28] i havent been out of the US [02:29] lol [02:29] his kernel will be out of date [02:29] vyrux (n=pausebre@60.54.49.9) joined ##slackware. [02:29] lol [02:29] mhaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:29] hell, i used 2.4.22 something until march of last year [02:30] slack 9.2 [02:30] i freaked when i found out about hal... [02:30] i thinkk on the laptop i have 12.0 at least [02:30] i dont use it because i can't find my power adapter [02:31] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [02:31] i popped in my usb drive and it automounted with an icon on the desktop (KDE) [02:31] aww [02:31] make one [02:31] mhaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:31] we use his laptop i at least have gentoo on it [02:31] it had vista i said not in my house:P [02:32] m0h4 (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:32] lmfao [02:32] i miss my slackware i'm pretty sure once we set up the baby room i'll find it [02:32] i did the same. my mom was pro winblows then i moved in again [02:33] i got my entire family into linux except my pops [02:33] i voided his dell warranty by installing zenwalk [02:33] m0h4 (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:33] lame [02:33] m0h4 (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:33] i hate warranties [02:33] yeah my dad wont use linux [02:33] Action: Motoko-chan has converted finally [02:33] Action: Motoko-chan is missing Photoshop though [02:33] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:33] my dad is the type who wrote long live microsoft on my birthday presents [02:33] I VOID WARRANTIES [02:33] Motoko-chan: GIMP [02:34] hell, i used to run PS in wine [02:34] I know, it's just slow going for me. [02:34] i run Fruity Loops for making music in wine [02:34] Plus I can't do some things in it simply because they aren't supported. [02:34] Layer effects, etc. [02:34] nix_chix0r: lol [02:34] Hopefully with GEGL support, it'll come soon. [02:34] long live MS [02:34] Multiple Sclerosis? You sicko. [02:34] m0h4 (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:35] Motoko-chan: like what? [02:35] MS really sucks [02:35] JosyGamma (n=josyr@77.246.72.85) joined ##slackware. [02:35] Cann0n, you think if i ask the doc for a pee bag they'd let me have one [02:35] i found GIMP does more than PS [02:35] Cann0n, see my line above. [02:35] jkwood: good chance i'll end up with ms. [02:35] Cann0n, it doesn't in some areas. [02:35] lol nix_chix0r as long as he oesnt ask to watch you use it [02:35] layer effects? [02:36] hmmm... seems like it did [02:36] spook: =/ [02:36] jkwood: my mum has it, and its partly genetic [02:36] guess i'm tired of the false feeling of having to pee. guys you can just whip it out no prob we have to sit down and look pathetic in hope it happens [02:36] Action: vyrux away bz 3/4 hari [02:37] http://registry.gimp.org/node/186 [02:37] nix_chix0r: i sit down. [02:37] nix_chix0r: when i was in clearwater FL, this crazy lady with HIV had no problem pissing standing up in mf friends moms front yard in the trailer park... [02:37] notes to self... avoid clearwater... everyone tells me its pretty.... it wasnt... [02:38] spook, weirdo, i know another guy who does that [02:38] nix_chix0r: i'm lazy. [02:38] Sometimes, it's just more relaxing. [02:38] he also has a fetish for women in heels squishing bugs [02:38] wtf [02:38] i really wanna try this suspend script now [02:39] wtf? [02:39] on the daily i get asked. " kill any bugs lately?" [02:39] i stand up and shit... [02:39] nix_chix0r: ... [02:39] just gotta et used to using a little extra TP [02:40] brb... testing suspend script. [02:41] spook, i knew it was you [02:42] nix_chix0r: what? my fetishes are probally equally as weird, just like, squishing bugs, wtf is that about [02:43] it's one thing if you have a fetish for women in heels but to have them kill bugs in the heels i don't get [02:43] i played along with it for a while but it got boring [02:43] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:43] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:45] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [02:45] poor bugs :( [02:45] heh.... [02:45] X came back... but my kbd and mouse didnt [02:45] so it got worse/ [02:46] nah, X came back lol [02:46] i just didnt know they didnt work [02:47] lol my cat is snoring [02:49] if i leave the bathroom door open he jumps on my lap it's weird [02:50] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [02:50] greeting and morning [02:51] lol [02:52] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:52] little confused... if wired connected (eth0), i get the dns fine... if wireless (wlan0) then i connect fine,i can ping the server,resolv.conf has the same dns but no connection...could someone point at something? if possible to add that to the wireless.sh(script) that it does it automagically....;) [02:53] route probally [02:53] spook: route default gw looks fine [02:53] right interface? [02:53] yep [02:54] ohh, and i had backed up the other hdd i lost the other day in an external ;) nothing lost after all ;) [02:54] so you can resolve ips? [02:54] ktabic (n=ktabic@host81-139-194-250.in-addr.btopenworld.com) joined ##slackware. [02:54] this looks weird though....what do you mean [02:54] nslookup google.com what happens? [02:55] euler- (n=carter@196-209-63-250-rrba-esr-3.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:55] have to disconnect and connect again [02:55] 2secs [02:55] blackorca (n=adam@173-100-238-197.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:56] hooray baby stopped kicking i think i should take advantage of that and sleep [02:56] nix_chix0r: sleep well [02:56] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:56] yeah! nini [02:57] sigh... lets see if dis works [02:57] later nix_chix0r [02:57] The-Crou1ier (n=ionshark@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:57] sleep well... dream about me naked! [02:57] brb [02:57] wtf [02:58] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Nick collision from services. [02:58] Nick change: The-Crou1ier -> The-Croupier [02:59] spook: if i connect via eth0 first and then log out and then reconnect it works fine...but before that nothing [02:59] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [02:59] same gw,same resolv.conf,just reconnecting [02:59] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:00] hmmm [03:00] it's not the default gw. it sounds like the default route [03:00] evo- (n=evo@p4FD4CB59.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [03:01] nullboy: ?! [03:02] the default network route [03:02] do i need to add something else in the script? what could i add to make it more proper [03:02] your problem is that bringing eth0 up after wlan0 is already up breaks your connection? [03:03] no! [03:03] if i bring up wlan0 i connect to the router but dns doesnt work [03:03] i change the resolv.conf and add the ip of the router say 192.168.1.1 [03:04] it doesnt work [03:04] then i ifconfig wlan0 down, bring eth0 up [03:04] it works fine [03:04] then if i bring eth0 down, and do ifconfig wlan0 up...it works fine ;) [03:04] The-Croupier, do the interfaces have static addresses or dhcp? [03:05] Frullet: static [03:05] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:05] i give it a static ip, even if i run dhcpcd, it still would connect fine..but today it gave me server timeouts [03:06] The-Croupier, might be abit obviouse, but have you have assigned them both different adresses right? [03:06] The-Croupier: copy your routing table for us during the configuration that doesn't work [03:06] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:06] The-Croupier: make it not work and do route -n and show us that output [03:06] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:07] nullboy: the route -n is the same in both cases [03:07] already checked [03:07] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:08] "if i bring up wlan0 i connect to the router" what do you mean by connect? just associated or you can access the router via http or ssh? [03:08] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:09] just associated [03:09] i can ping the router [03:10] ok [03:10] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-170-23.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. 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[03:27] are there any slackware binaries for openjdk? [03:27] I couldn't find a slackbuild script either [03:27] isnt jre OSS now? [03:28] neither for jdk [03:28] its in extra/ IIRC [03:30] ok ill look into it [03:30] thanks [03:30] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [03:31] ttyX (n=slacker@210.211.160.26) left irc: Client Quit [03:32] Action: vyrux kena g tmn U amik motherboard [03:33] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [03:34] and iirc, .*java.* is the only thing not compiled by Pat in slackware, along with firefox [03:34] (that'll always make me smile ^^) [03:36] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:37] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:39] maybe he don't have the permission ? [03:41] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [03:43] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [03:44] Ruthven (n=mbutler@adsl-70-234-189-72.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [03:44] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [03:44] Goldy (n=goldy@203-214-153-113.perm.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [03:44] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:44] ubuntu ftw [03:45] BOFH__ (n=berserk@host34-89-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:46] mowa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:46] pip (n=root@117.95.102.118) joined ##slackware. [03:47] Amine_ (n=chatzill@196.206.236.248) joined ##slackware. [03:47] qwertyuiop [03:48] Hello [03:48] hi [03:51] I am running slackware 12.0 on Virtualbox, with Internet connection. But when I was trying to execute "slackpkg update gpg", there was error saying : slackpkg only works with ONE mirror selected. But I have already selected ONE mirror, what's the reason ? [03:52] thats a common bug associated with not using ubuntu [03:52] Goldy: no kidding [03:52] i know [03:52] im not [03:53] Goldy: so... [03:53] ubuntu.org has a link which will fix ur problem [03:53] i think it says 'download' [03:53] Goldy: I said I am on slackware [03:53] yes, that's the problem [03:54] ssh [03:54] rapid: Any ideas ? [03:54] Goldy: Are you on ubuntu ? [03:54] yep [03:54] Goldy: shame on you [03:54] ... [03:54] Amine, whatever the reason, the parallel between java and firefox is funny :) [03:54] :D [03:55] Goldy: shame on you [03:55] y??? [03:55] ubuntu ftw [03:55] Goldy: Then why are you here ? [03:55] to irritate you [03:55] clearly [03:55] :D [03:55] to troll around i guess [03:55] but why do we have to get ubuntu trolls ? [03:56] ubuntu: linux for idiots [03:56] because 'slackware' is such an enticing name [03:56] slackware: linux for slackers [03:56] pip, check that you really have one mirror there. Maybe you left /mnt/cdrom unchecked or something. [03:56] at least we agree we're all slackers ^^ [03:57] pip, you could reinstall slackpkg from a mirror by hand, that'll give you a fresh /etc/slackpkg/mirrors file. [03:57] or u could install ubuntu [03:57] :) [03:57] or grabs the mirrors file from the source tree [03:57] spook, right [03:58] slava_dp: after I had reinstalled the slackware 12.0, I found that there was no slackpkg tool installed [03:58] pip, in /extra [03:58] Goldy (n=goldy@203-214-153-113.perm.iinet.net.au) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [03:58] maybe not [03:58] then I downloaded a binary pacakge of it and got it installed [03:58] http://172.16.1.1/slackware/slackware-12.2/source/ap/slackpkg/README [03:58] read that [03:58] Goldy must have had a lot of fun :D [03:58] slackd00d: this is 12.0 NOT 12.2 [03:59] spook, aha, gonna read it on your local network :D [03:59] "slackpkg" is a shell script, so there is no source package. [03:59] okay. that was what I meant [03:59] assuming /etc/slackpkg/mirrors is all commented out with '#', run this --> egrep -v '^ *#' /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [04:00] that should show you the uncommented lines [04:00] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:00] Action: slava_dp loves that regexp magic [04:00] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [04:01] SiegeX: yes, I chose 3 of them [04:01] and there is your problem, no? [04:01] Action: slava_dp thought so [04:01] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [04:01] spook: what's that for ? [04:02] pip: the error says it can't have more than one mirror. You said you choose one, but clearly you choose 3 [04:02] what's the latest version ofslackpkg ? [04:03] pip, the latest is in slackware 12.2. i suppose you can use it with 12.0 with the right mirror. [04:03] I see [04:03] mowa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [04:04] pip: I noticed your hostmask is root@*. Are you actually logged in as root right now? [04:04] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) joined ##slackware. [04:04] Amine (n=chatzill@196.206.236.248) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:05] lol, im trolling Goldy in his private chan [04:05] everybody join #aioc =) [04:05] godling: Yes, but this is just a tet [04:05] *test [04:05] pip: Still a bad idea. :) [04:07] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [04:07] whats that site that lists hoaxes? [04:07] Google might know. [04:08] tulas (n=tulas@118-168-238-9.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "leaving" [04:09] SiegeX, lol ;) [04:09] hoaxbuster ? [04:09] lol, we got him kicked from his own channel [04:09] cause he was spamming it wanting us out [04:09] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [04:10] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:10] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-340081.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:10] Ah, I'm glad to be reminded that IRC is the bastion of maturity that I remember it being. [04:10] ;P [04:10] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [04:11] haha [04:11] snicker [04:12] :p [04:12] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [04:13] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:14] How to clear refresh the index file of packages installed ? [04:15] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:16] pip, mmm? what is the "index file of packages installed" ? [04:16] I mean the slackpkg update [04:16] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [04:17] pip, ok, do "slackpkg update". [04:18] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [04:18] No changes in ChangeLog.txt between your last update and now. [04:18] Do you really want to download all other files (y/N)? [04:18] Y or N ? [04:18] it's up to you [04:18] take your pick [04:18] godling: silence [04:18] pip: excuse me? [04:19] godling: You are ubuntu guy [04:19] What does that even mean? [04:19] Okay, I just want to update the index tree file of slackware [04:19] godling: nothing, just kidding [04:20] I took y [04:20] Action: slava_dp thinks pip should have more respect for his fellow channel mates. [04:20] Action: godling goes to his happy place. [04:21] godling: Good luck [04:22] pip: You're not very nice. [04:23] godling: Yes, I am [04:23] When was the situation that could harm the computer if someone wrote # rm -rf / (hope I commented it correctly)? When cat'ing out the logs? [04:24] godling: why as a ubuuntu user you was going to irritate me ? [04:24] "you was going" [04:24] kjell: does it work technically ? [04:24] just ignore it slava_dp [04:24] Gargantua_ (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [04:24] pip: cating out logs? [04:24] he's trolling [04:25] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:25] godling: me ? [04:26] give me a link please of sbopkg tool [04:28] seems there is no /etc/conf.d/lang.sh file on here [04:28] Okay, got i [04:31] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [04:32] heh, thx dobbs for a system pescue disk + duped blocks on sda1 [04:33] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. 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[04:47] Lalloso (n=h4x0r@62.123.95.200) joined ##slackware. [04:48] hello [04:48] hepyp [04:48] hey* [04:49] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:49] what do you suggest to run slackware on a 64bit server with 20giga ram? [04:50] eh, for 64bit, Slam64 may be worth looking into [04:50] 20GB of RAM? [04:50] I want to stick with official slack I'm just in doubt if recompile my kernel with highmem PAE [04:50] slamd64 is good [04:51] Lalloso: just use slamd64. its the same quality as slackware, since it is based on slackware. [04:51] you could stick with slack, but its 32bit. if you wish to utilize a 64bit core, look into slam64 [04:51] so slackware with pae is not a suggested option eh? [04:52] its not really worth it. [04:52] pae is ugly [04:52] its up to you dude. [04:52] mmm slamd64 is 12.1 [04:52] even with pae, processes are limited to like 4gb memory [04:52] I know [04:52] slamd64 is 12.2 [04:52] 1233568364 [04:52] as of like 3 days ago [04:52] ah good [04:53] woops.... epoch time.. bleh [04:53] and what happen to the software I compile from scratch on slamd64 [04:53] slamd64 is multilib [04:53] it gets compile magically for 64bit ? [04:53] pretty much everything in slackbuilds will compile. if you want them 64bit, you change the lib to be lib64 and it should work. [04:54] anything 32bit will still run on slamd64 [04:55] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-113-226.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:55] ok thx for the hints [04:55] I will give it a try eventually [04:55] do you know if a single slamd64 iso dvd exist? [04:55] goole.com [04:55] dude... come on [04:55] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-113-226.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [04:56] google.com* :P [04:56] yes there is an install dvd image [04:57] is there any reason to prefer slamd64 over bluewhite64? [04:58] you dont make many choices do you [04:58] bluewhite64 is pure 64. 32 bit wont run [04:58] I see, so it's better to prefer multilib in times like this [04:59] a more important question is whether you need 64bit [04:59] bluewhite64 is also just slamd64 stolen with zero credit. the author claims to have ported slackware to 64bit, despite all the evidence that he stole slamd64's fred's work. and zero evidence that he either did it himself, or even that he is capable of doing so [04:59] unless you dont run servers, do heavy video editiong etc i doubt you do [04:59] sahko: he has 20gb of memory [04:59] I run servers for telephonic applications [04:59] Please be accurate when you say " Lalloso: just use slamd64. its the same quality as slackware, since it is based on slackware." [04:59] spook: oh [05:00] hp dl g5 20gb with 2 cpu quadcore [05:00] Slamd64 is _based_ on Slackware, but it is an unofficial fork i.e. without support from us [05:00] alienBOB: white lies help people challenge their preconceived notions. [05:00] suse is based on slackware also :P [05:00] lol [05:00] reallove (n=dan@unaffiliated/reallove) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:00] it is.. or was..or.. [05:00] the fact is this, my company wants to run redhat 64bit on hp servers [05:01] i can't work with redhat i'm sorry [05:01] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "life in the rear view mirror" [05:01] Lalloso: :D [05:01] jean-luc (n=kraptron@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left ##slackware. [05:01] so to convince them i need to pass load and stress tests with slackware [05:01] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:01] Lalloso: please dont misunderstand me, slamd64 is good quality. as alienBOB says, it is based on slackware and alot of effort has been made to make it the highest quality possible, but it is a fork. [05:01] yes spook i know what that means [05:02] Lalloso: Why not try it out? http://www.slamd64.com [05:02] however the question if i need or not 64bit will be answered when i'll see how load and test will compare to redhat ones [05:02] kjell: I'm going to do it [05:02] sahko: yes it is based on slackware, it started as a german translation, but that was at least 13 years ago. [05:03] Lalloso: Tell me how the tests went later, I'm interested to know. [05:03] still I would like to understand if there are any foreseen solution to the issue of 64bit [05:03] Lalloso: if you actually have 20gb of RAM in a single machine, 16.75GB will go to waste without long mode (64bit) [05:03] I mean official solution [05:03] e.. [05:03] for my application cpu power could be more important than RAM [05:03] Lalloso: no official solutions no. [05:04] also cpu registers get wasted being 32bits [05:04] but I'm not here to complain, I love slackware and I can't do anything about it [05:04] Lalloso: there will be a 64bit Slackware eventually. Just not today [05:04] pip (n=root@unaffiliated/pip) joined ##slackware. [05:05] thx this was what I wanted to hear :-) [05:05] .... [05:06] Hello, I couldn't install a pacakge with slackpkg install , but I could search it out with slacpkg search [05:06] looks weird [05:07] goo1 (n=goo@cust-214-71.on2.ontelecoms.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:08] pip: the "search" works on files inside packages, while the "install" wants a packagename such as "xap/mozilla-firefox" [05:08] pprkut (n=hwiesing@a82-93-111-145.adsl.xs4all.nl) joined ##slackware. [05:09] m0h4 (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:10] sigh... sometimes i hate slackware... i gotta be up in less than 2 hours... thx for keeping me up asshole [05:11] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [05:11] goo1 (n=goo@cust-214-71.on2.ontelecoms.gr) left ##slackware. [05:11] Cann0n: If you have a problem with Slackware.. it's your fault :) [05:11] lol [05:11] Action: The-Croupier is looking into the wireless problem...:( [05:11] greetings [05:11] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.25) joined ##slackware. [05:11] i need to go to rehab for os abuse [05:11] The-Croupier: what card? [05:12] If you abuse the OS it will strike back at you [05:12] hiya Cann0n could you know if there are any drivers for cannon printers and linux? [05:12] m0h4 (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:12] Cann0n: in fact.. it's kind of the point of Slack... it's designed to be blameless [05:12] Cann0n: the card works,it connects to the server,dns is the same as the one of eth0(wired) eth0 works fine,wlan0 dns doesnt [05:13] dor3mi (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:13] Zordrak: i dont know any os that is to blame including windows (sometimes) [05:13] The-Croupier: eh, no idea. i only recently got into printing under linux. havent printed in over 8 years [05:13] The-Croupier: Boohockey! [05:13] Cann0n: lol [05:14] Zordrak: ;) [05:14] how are you trying to connect? [05:14] Cann0n: wirelessly ;) [05:14] The-Croupier: Tried (due to being forced to try) to temporarily migrate a website using mod_perl to Fedora10..... it was a complete failure *because* of Fedora10 [05:14] dor3mi (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:14] i mean,wicd, wpa_supplicant, wifi-radar, etc [05:15] nothing of the sort... created a script adding the ip to wlan0,default gw..etc... just didnt add dns in there ;) [05:15] hmmm [05:16] run the script and it connects straight away [05:16] ah [05:16] Cannot load module /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim.so: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.9' not found (required by /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim.so) [05:16] what package do I need ? gtk2.0 ? [05:17] You have a fucked up system pip [05:17] lol [05:17] alienBOB: i love your way with the words ;) [05:17] What are you running? [05:17] The-Croupier: you should see me when I am in a bad mood [05:17] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:18] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [05:18] alienBOB: lol, no thanks... ;) i dont want to end up in noobfarm.org [05:18] The-Croupier: did you ever try to configure your wireless with rc.inet1.conf instead of writing your own command script? [05:18] quick question... if i ad bad blocks on an ext3 partition, to fix them id run fsck.ext3 -c ? [05:19] alienBOB: no, ive always done it with the script..it always worked [05:19] s/ad/had/ [05:19] Cann0n: the "-c" command is a desctructive command (it wipes your data) [05:19] thanks though... even if i wouldnt know what exactly to look for... ill give it a try [05:20] ah, so how could i fix these bad/duped blocks? [05:20] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:20] -p? [05:20] alienBOB: are you serious ? [05:20] alienBOB: how can one add two dns records in resolv.conf? [05:20] it hangs on boot when that check is called after 15 mounts [05:21] alienBOB: I downloaded it from 12.1 version while I'm using the 12.0 [05:21] alienBOB: i didnt do that cos this is the script to connect at work...from the slack-laptop.. ;) [05:21] The-Croupier: uh... [05:21] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [05:21] But I can't findi t in 12.0 in pacakge.slackware.it [05:21] uh...was my thought too [05:22] well, can you find scim in 12.0 in that site ? [05:22] Action: The-Croupier checking inetd [05:22] fsck.ext3 -p? [05:22] pip: please do not mix packages from two different releases. [05:23] The result is precicely the kind of error you see [05:23] alienBOB: yeah, I see your meaning, but I just wanted to install scim input method program for 12.0 [05:23] duryodhan (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-316b62006f749319) joined ##slackware. [05:23] Cann0n: "fsck.ext3 -c -c" i.e. twice the "-c" is supposed to be non-desctructive (and a lot slower) [05:24] that will fix me up huh? [05:24] pip: Slackware 12.0 did not have scim. You will have to upgrade [05:24] i dont like the word "supposed"when it comes to my files [05:25] alienBOB: how to do that ? [05:25] pip: but, alternatively you can try these packages for 12.0 - http://www.slackware.com/~alien/sas/ [05:25] They were used during the development of scim support for slackware-12.1 [05:26] pip: upgrading to Slackware 12.1 or 12.2 - read UPGRADE.TXT and CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT inside the root directory of both releases [05:26] rc.inet1.conf is really straightforward... thanks alienbob.. ;) [05:26] Or re-install Slackware 12/2 from scratch [05:26] alienBOB: let me try [05:27] well im out. hour and a half sleep should do me in [05:27] The-Croupier: "man rc.inet1.conf" or read http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network [05:27] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:27] alienBOB: already there [05:28] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:30] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Client Quit [05:32] alienBOB: thanks very much, they were installed, I'm going to have a try [05:32] pip (n=root@unaffiliated/pip) left irc: "leaving" [05:32] i thought people dont log in as root in irc channels [05:33] Amine (n=chatzill@196.206.236.248) joined ##slackware. [05:33] goo2 (n=goo@cust-214-71.on2.ontelecoms.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:33] goo2 (n=goo@cust-214-71.on2.ontelecoms.gr) left ##slackware. [05:33] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-135-100.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:34] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-135-100.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:34] The-Croupier: they shouldn't; they do. [05:35] mindbendr (n=neveraga@80.68.37.130) joined ##slackware. [05:35] Action: The-Croupier is thinking on how to call such people hmmm [05:35] hehe [05:36] ImmutableDark (n=m0@c220-237-99-49.randw2.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [05:38] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:39] guys you have to read this..really genius : http:://pastebin.com/m31f24e0d [05:39] a colleague sent it to me today [05:41] thats not even a real URL [05:42] sahko: ? [05:42] hint: it has a : more than usual [05:42] :P [05:42] tis if you fix it [05:42] lol [05:43] The-Croupier: haha, so funny :D [05:43] guys you have to read this..really genius :> http:://pastebin.com/md93ebee [05:43] sahko: i reposted it... i didnt see your : comment ;) lol [05:44] And still the same fault :D [05:44] guys you have to read this..really genius :> http://pastebin.com/md93ebee [05:45] i have to type them by hand...:( my laptop touchpad doesnt do the cp/paste in terminal :( [05:45] yeah that writeup rocks. i read it some time ago :) [05:45] The-Croupier: middle click? [05:46] chopp: theres no middle click ;) [05:46] The-Croupier: try left and right at the same time. [05:46] theres a square thing in the middle of left "square"right [05:46] The-Croupier: middle click? [05:47] The-Croupier: go to bed [05:47] chopp: that worked;) [05:47] oh, you're not just double-pasting 'cause you're tired. nevermind [05:47] The-Croupier: of course it did. [05:47] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [05:47] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:47] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-91291867a46b3775) joined ##slackware. [05:47] godling: i have to goto bad...that is another truth [05:48] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:48] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:49] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [05:49] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-178-233.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [05:50] The-Croupier, is your touchpad synaptics by chance? mine supports multitouch, i.e. with two fingers for a middle click; three fingers for right click. [05:50] Razec (n=razec@189.56.183.198) joined ##slackware. [05:52] slava_dp: i have a left,a right,and a square in the middle ... dont know/dont think its synaptics [05:52] even when i download/installed synaptics drivers it didnt have much change [05:53] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: "Sto andando via" [05:54] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:54] The-Croupier, try touching your touchpad with two fingers simultaneously. Or three. See what happens. [05:54] The-Croupier, but you have to have the synaptics driver loaded. 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[06:35] I am sure that is a software problem because when there are multiple connection the server it hangs [06:36] And we need to rebooting it [06:36] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Client Quit [06:36] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn235.78-99-32.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [06:37] ahmed-tux (n=rhapsody@adsl196-229-104-206-196.adsl196-4.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [06:39] hireadan (i=1000@adtw17.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:40] hi there, is this english Slackware IRC Channel? [06:40] yes [06:40] ok [06:41] it's chinese slackware irc channel [06:42] reallove (n=dan@dan.btn.ro) joined ##slackware. [06:42] I'm hunting for that graphic card ---> http://www.allegro.pl/show_item.php?item=541783747 --- will it works fine with nvidia drivers on Slackware? [06:42] Nick change: reallove -> Guest53251 [06:42] becouse I can't see this card here on list ---> http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/linux_display_ia32_180.22_uk.html [06:43] help me please :-) [06:43] i would say yes [06:43] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:44] its a nvidia card, why wouldnt it work with nvidia drivers [06:44] good point [06:45] :-P [06:45] just don't want spend money in sand [06:45] what list is there in the second link? [06:45] its just a list of newly supported cards [06:46] youre not looking at the full list [06:46] :O [06:47] 'spend money in sand', an interesting saying [06:47] with ATI, you'll still wonder after you purchase [06:47] hireadan: http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/IO_18897.html lists your card as a supported card [06:47] "why doesn't it work with ATI" drivers [06:47] annake: sorry I am not Englishman :-| [06:48] hireadan : interestingly enough, i can't recall that saying in your native language [06:48] hopefully the list is not in _english_ [06:49] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [06:50] ALVAN (n=erters@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [06:51] fabricio` (n=fabricio@mailhost.techmaster.com.br) joined ##slackware. [06:53] Burglur (n=Burglur@203-97-117-35.cable.telstraclear.net) joined ##slackware. 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[07:42] BOFH__ (n=berserk@host97-89-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:44] Heya Old_Fogie [07:44] hi-dee-ho :) [07:45] There should be a law against mornings. [07:45] agreed [07:48] Zordrak: :D [07:49] jotaR (n=chatzill@189.73.55.18) joined ##slackware. [07:50] jotaR (n=chatzill@189.73.55.18) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120122]" [07:50] guys, can anyone do a hdparm -t on their disks just to have a notion of the benchmarks? [07:51] 48.38 MB/sec here... [07:51] Kaapa: I'm sure anyone can. ;) [07:51] how do I achieve this in xorg.conf? mainly the (136.5) setting?? http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5278/snapshot3sd3.png [07:54] 75.84 MB/sec [07:54] BrunoXLambert (n=BxL@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [07:55] k, thanks [07:56] does pidgin icq plugin work for you? I got banned yesterday with the message to go get the official icq from aol. 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[08:00] vinnie_, or that which comes with slackware? the xorg free nv driver [08:01] yes, from slackbuild [08:01] High_Priest (n=Mean@cable-89-216-140-38.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Excess Flood [08:01] vinnie_, ok well then look at nvidia's help doc's then, [08:01] on there site? [08:01] vinnie_, it should address it there in some way [08:01] High_Priest (n=Mean@cable-89-216-140-38.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [08:02] vinnie_, yea the install docs they have [08:02] Old_Fogie: ok, thanks for your time [08:02] vinnie_, yw [08:04] so nobody uses icq here. [08:04] vinnie_, in an ideal world, the nvidia driver should see the device/monitor attached , read "edid" data from that monitor (which tells the nvidia card what to send to the monitor) and it "just do it". the /var/log/Xorg.0.log is a logfiile of X coming up and running, in that file, if you read it, you'll see the data given to the video card from the monitor and how the nvidia driver tries to meet it, achieve it, etc. for all [08:04] we know, it ?might? just work, [08:04] vdv (n=vdv@62.217.159.98) joined ##slackware. [08:05] ahmed-tux (n=rhapsody@adsl196-229-104-206-196.adsl196-4.iam.net.ma) left irc: "Leaving." [08:06] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:10] Action: slava_dp would dump icq in favour of jabber happily if not for all the contacts. Icq has like 98% of market share here. [08:10] raela|alt (n=raela@205.133.81.33) joined ##slackware. [08:11] lw0x15: hi .. 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[08:24] stybla: Can I have all your hardware then? [08:24] zombie says - may be. [08:25] clavius (n=clavius@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: "client exploded" [08:25] I'll be by in a few hours to pick it up. [08:30] i'll tag along [08:30] i'll come along to see a live zombie. [08:31] FriedBob: i'll get it ready. [08:32] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [08:33] stybla: make some snacks as well, so we have something to eat on the way back [08:33] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:35] foureyes779 (n=theron@unaffiliated/foureyes779) left ##slackware. [08:39] Nick change: Drgb -> BOFH [08:39] snacks? [08:39] /dev/mapper/raid10array-lvol0 1.5T 4.0G 1.4T 1% /array [08:39] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) joined ##slackware. [08:40] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@m90-137-79-102.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. [08:40] lw0x15: zombies do no snack, but i can make snacks out of you, if you will :p [08:41] mrS (n=Sven@cc1312074-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [08:42] hi there. I need some help with my sata hd. cant use sata with slack 12.1 and will continuw using ide (hda). Kernel parameters in lilo wont work [08:42] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.28.7) joined ##slackware. [08:42] mindbendr (n=neveraga@80.68.37.130) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:43] slackytude (i=schwebel@stud.fbi.h-da.de) joined ##slackware. [08:43] is GMA950 not enough to run KDE-4.2 graphical effects? It's really slow [08:43] or did I miss something? [08:43] IntangibleLiquid: That's the chipset on lots of laptops, right? [08:44] GMA950 is enough to display 3 pixels. [08:44] muraii, yes I guess so [08:44] since kde4.2 uses 4.2 pixels, it wont work [08:44] spook, sounds like a joke :D [08:44] spook: You disabled syntax(yoda);? [08:44] no joke [08:45] i remember there was an option to disable effects in 4.1.3, but it disappeared? [08:45] IntangibleLiquid: in your control panel, it is [08:45] muraii, you had to remind him :) [08:46] Action: dtanner sips coffee [08:46] Action: Old_Fogie waves hello to dtanner [08:46] wassup Old_Stogie =) [08:46] since kde4.2 uses 4.2 pixels, it wont work << you speak of, this is not? [08:47] reaver__ (n=reaver@h69e.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection reset by peer [08:47] oh nuttin' much. building kipi-plugins out of cvs, since new libgpod breaks kipi stable (and it's needed for digikam beta) [08:48] muraii: blamed for this, you will be [08:48] aside from that, 65 days of precipitation (rain or snow or mix thereof) in a row here now; winter is getting annoying this year for sure. [08:48] Zordrak: right, am i not? [08:48] Old_Fogie: she said, that is what [08:49] got 5' of snow out on the grass, and ?maybe? a 40 degree day with rain coming up... this is going to be sump pump craziness, I can feel it. [08:50] [ in bed ], 5' [08:50] yeah.. 50 this weekend. [08:50] foot of snow or more already on the ground [08:50] got 4" more yesterday... [08:50] this weekend is going to be fun [08:51] slobad23 (n=jake@62.249.219.218) joined ##slackware. [08:51] Nick change: slobad23 -> slobad [08:51] spook, ootay unnyfay, youay areway <--- yoda, pig latin [08:51] spook: man pig, from [08:52] Old_Fogie: smeg head :) [08:52] manbearpig [08:52] mbhayes, I know the feeling [08:52] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.28.7) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:52] :( [08:53] Old_Fogie: I don't have a sump pump thank god :) [08:53] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@m90-137-79-102.cust.tele2.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:53] mbhayes, let's hope you don't need one :) [08:53] Nick change: Old_Fogie -> Oldway_Ogiefay [08:53] well i don't.. [08:53] because... I don't have a basement/crawlspace [08:53] someone (i think it might have been Old_Fogie ) linked me to an article while i was in work a while ago, but didnt have time to follow on stopping the pc displaying username and password for windows network share mount on boot. does anyone knw how i can do this? [08:53] ah ok [08:53] my home sits on a slab foundation hehe [08:53] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-113-226.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:54] spook, you were saying :) [08:55] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-113-226.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [08:55] slobad, the link I gave you was at alien bob's wiki [08:55] clavius (n=clavius@unaffiliated/clavius) joined ##slackware. [08:55] thanks Oldway_Ogiefay [08:55] :D [08:55] Oldway_Ogiefay: night night [08:56] now i just have to hunt this thing down [08:56] slobad, under file print shareing [08:57] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) joined ##slackware. [08:57] I'd give you the link again, but looking at your account here, your time has run out, you'll need to insert $0.25 for further assistance :) [08:57] You cheap, undercutting bastard! [08:58] ;) [08:58] Zordrak, hhahah [08:58] slobad, http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:samba [08:58] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@89-96-108-186.ip12.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [08:58] just beat you to it Oldway_Ogiefay :) [08:59] hmmm, well then it'll be $0.50 for the link and wheel spinning you gave me [08:59] liquidated damages, didn't you read the T's & C's :) [08:59] god damnnit... i have never been able to overcome remote ssh timeout [08:59] in this current economic climate i need every peny i have - $0.25 is like £50 now [09:00] agreed [09:00] doesnt matter how much i play with keepalives... the session always terminates after a minute or so's inactivity [09:00] just dont stop working Zordrak [09:00] but do it to a local box and it never dies [09:00] you're welcome for the solution - i'll be here all week [09:01] slobad: the twat is im tailing a log, waiting for activity [09:02] while true; do tail -n 1 logfile; sleep 1; done [09:02] :( [09:02] Amine (n=chatzill@196.206.236.248) joined ##slackware. [09:03] Zordrak: hate me, you should not [09:03] hayig2000 (n=root@41.237.155.135) joined ##slackware. [09:03] hi all is there a slackware program to be used as a visual keyboard (as viki)? [09:04] hayig2000: the google, have you tried? [09:04] ok searching [09:05] hayig2000: slackware doesnt have its own programs [09:05] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-146-99.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:05] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-88-176-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [09:07] raela|alt (n=raela@205.133.81.33) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:07] Zordrak: holla friend [09:07] raela|alt (n=raela@205.133.81.33) joined ##slackware. [09:08] Our server crash every time I dont know why, can you help me homie ? [09:08] lfamorim (n=Lucas@189-55-201-200-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:09] wtf [09:09] I can't follow one word of what you just said. [09:11] spook: The wronger, often I am. [09:12] mbhayes: did you say something ? [09:12] nope [09:12] homie lol [09:13] mindbndr (n=neveraga@80.68.37.130) joined ##slackware. [09:13] Is that like poppin' a cap ? [09:13] bein' on the down-low? [09:13] =D [09:13] mbhayes: I speak 3 languages how many languages can you speak ? [09:14] i can speak 1 language right :) [09:14] Amine: What does that have to do with poor grammar? [09:15] Being that this is an english channel.. your other 2 languages are a moot point. [09:15] Soul_keeper: so what if China ride the world and english will be nothing what will you do ? you will accept to be ignorant ? [09:15] There are 10 types of people in the world; those who understand binary and those who don't [09:15] mbhayes: I mean I learned english for 1 year or less, YOU HAVE TO SHUT UP AND RESPECT ME [09:16] Amine: Respect is earned, not demanded. [09:16] And shouting is certainly not the way to go about it. :) [09:16] and I doubt coming into this channel and telling someone to "YOU HAVE TO SHUT UP AND RESPECT ME" is going to get you very far [09:16] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [09:16] next time "shut up and take me far" [09:17] mbhayes: and not every one can respect, there is difference between civilized people and shit people :) [09:17] shit people? [09:18] are those like crab people, but made of feces? [09:18] That'd be quite the biological feat [09:18] hayig2000 (n=root@41.237.155.135) left ##slackware. [09:18] straterra: ask mbhayes he knew what I mean :) [09:18] straterra: think of the movie 'dogma' ;) [09:18] hughszg (n=hugh_2@222.65.123.219) left ##slackware. [09:18] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.232) joined ##slackware. [09:19] Dogma was awesome [09:19] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:19] agreed. [09:19] Amine: and..if he KNEW..then he may not know now.. [09:19] BP{k}: I'm a freakin demon [09:19] does NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.82-pkg1.run have problems compiling on later 2.6.28.x kernels and will NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.22-pkg1.run fix the problem [09:20] i know everything is right on my setup of my new kernel, but 177.82 won't work [09:20] clavius: http://tinyurl.com/bjryes [09:20] :) [09:21] the problem is there is people who just know how to install a Linux server and configure the httpd.conf and pretend to be a Slacker and talk about it like if they are really a contributor :S [09:21] Um..being a Slacker is subjective.. [09:22] And one doesn't HAVE to contribute to anything [09:22] clavius, paste the compile error at pastebin [09:22] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:22] doesnt someone who knows nothing about slackware and wants to join in with the community count as a slacker? [09:22] look in /var/log/nvidia*.log i think the errors are there too [09:23] i was just asking so i don't have to reboot again, looks as if there is a problem, next time i reboot i'll try 180.22 [09:24] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:24] thanks straterra [09:24] http://pastebin.com/m7e904997 [09:26] clavius: the latest nvidia drivers are borked. from 180.22 and upwards [09:26] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) joined ##slackware. [09:26] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=125262 [09:26] straterra: I am sure that Pat will not be happy when dirty guys talk about Slackware :), there is not just Englishmen in the worlds, and if some of them talk about grammar instead of technical things.. so they are real ignorants :) [09:26] mrS (n=Sven@cc1312074-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:27] raela|alt (n=raela@205.133.81.33) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:27] Dirty guys? [09:28] "when dirty guys talk about Slackware" <--- Wait! You have to shower to use Slackware. Huh, I didn't get the memo [09:28] grumpy horny old men [09:28] dngr (n=dngr@pcd548234.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [09:28] guys, i need some info on blacktrack3 which is based on slackware... [09:28] pupit, #backtrack [09:29] thanks! [09:29] Oldway_Ogiefay: there's no that kind of a chanel... [09:30] ;-D [09:30] Oldway_Ogiefay: I can see know why slackware is not popular like ubuntu and Debian.. :) [09:30] lw0x15: just laugh.. [09:30] hmm, tried ##slackware_doesnt_support_forks yet? [09:30] :D [09:30] pupit: #remote_exploit. [09:30] hahahhahaah [09:30] :| [09:30] it's because some stupid slacker don't know what is the sense of community [09:31] Amine, people suck who cares [09:31] dngr (n=dngr@pcd548234.netvigator.com) left irc: Excess Flood [09:31] amine, amin. [09:31] Amine, you think I want to hold these guys hands and sing coom-bai-ya [09:31] pupit: you could have found #remote-exploit by simply googling. [09:31] Oldway_Ogiefay: you are not PAT to judge what Slackware must be [09:31] If you want community..go join a support group [09:31] BP{k}: i thought u guys know something.. [09:31] pupit: yes, we do. [09:31] Amine, you're not even a real program [09:32] we know for example that backtrack3 is based on slax which is loosely based on slackware at some random point. [09:32] Action: Oldway_Ogiefay gathers up some puppy chow and feeds the troll [09:33] Oldway_Ogiefay: its sad to see you dirtying Slackware :( [09:33] lol [09:33] amine, shut up. [09:33] BP{k}: is there some live version ov that backtrack..? [09:33] he's just so etarded, I can't even type something, lol [09:33] ;D [09:34] pupit: no idea. As far as I am aware backtrack is a livecd. [09:34] Amine, you don't by any chance perform mixed martial arts do you? [09:35] BP{k}: thanks... [09:35] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [09:35] pupit: any reason you 'need' backtrack3? [09:36] its for my friend... it is hard to get him used to slack... [09:36] dngr (n=dngr@pcd548234.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [09:36] get a new friend [09:36] :) [09:36] so he is still searching for best distro... [09:36] Backtrack is a distro focused on security applications if I'm not wrong. [09:36] Why would he need all that? [09:37] kjell: maybe he's a security expert :> [09:37] kjell: he is in security. [09:37] ;) [09:37] pupit, admin it for your friend for a while,but when you do updates, make him do it in front of you. that way he learn. [09:37] it works [09:38] Hm. pupit don't you think he will learn a lot more if he has to install and tweak his system instead of installing all sec-apps from a live-cd? [09:38] or running a stripped down version [09:38] back [09:38] pupit: if he's tryin to use slack to security testing then yeah backtrack will work better, it has the right drivers for packet injection and everything, but for an every day desktop os, backtrack isnt a good choice [09:38] kjell: im shure he will... [09:38] no I think to really know if this channel represent Slackware [09:39] Amine, you don't by any chance perform mixed martial arts do you? [09:39] or it's just contain some newbies pretend to be Elit [09:39] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-146-99.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [09:40] Oldway_Ogiefay: no more time to wast, I will ask the real slackers [09:40] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.16) joined ##slackware. [09:40] Amine, answer the question [09:40] so shut up :) [09:40] reaver__ (n=reaver@h69e.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [09:40] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-146-99.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:40] You are not the judge to answer you [09:40] Action: Oldway_Ogiefay knows who this clown is now, ahahahah [09:40] Amine: If you would be more friendly while chatting I'm sure you will be better treated aswell. [09:40] Beeing an ass wont help. [09:40] Amine: and of course you are the real slacker? [09:41] Amine, keep it up I'll sick nullboy on you :D [09:41] if you have an issue when using backtrack, there are so many config changes and version differences that treating it like a slackware install for the purposes of troubleshooting is probably not gonna get you anywhere [09:41] BP{k}, he's the clown that went after nullboy [09:41] hahaha "Mr. talk doesn't buy vegetables" [09:41] kjell: there just 3 person who attacked me [09:41] ag3ntugly: thanks for advice :) [09:41] thank u all :) [09:41] I see a slew of noobfarm quotes in the near future... [09:42] mbhayes: a drumptruck [09:42] kjell: so you can look at logs [09:42] Amine: I've seen you telling people to shut up before. Is it strange that people aint friendly anymore? [09:42] oh yeah, he found the google translate of "chinese to babble" converter and uses it [09:42] Amine: It's all about how you ask questions and behave. [09:42] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-146-99.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [09:43] lw0x15: hehe [09:43] kjell: they still don't respect me : Oldway_Ogiefay> oh yeah, he found the google translate of "chinese to babble" converter and uses it [09:43] What if I am a real chinese [09:43] where's my food? [09:43] will not be an racisme act ? [09:43] mbhayes, rofl [09:43] lol [09:43] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:44] Amine: no it wouldn't. [09:44] How is asking "where's my food?" a racist remark? I like Chinese food. Wondering where my food is. [09:45] For all you know, I ordered delivery. [09:45] BP{k}: so it's stupid to not understand that [09:45] Burglur (n=Burglur@203-97-117-35.cable.telstraclear.net) joined ##slackware. [09:45] Burglur (n=Burglur@203-97-117-35.cable.telstraclear.net) left ##slackware ("gone"). [09:45] Amine: pretty much, trying to call 'Racism' if you don't understand the word, is pretty stupid, yes. [09:47] Action: Oldway_Ogiefay goes over to Amine's house and grabs the crack-pipe and says "tisk..tisk..you've had too much today" [09:47] lol [09:47] lmao [09:47] so.. [09:47] Amine: time for you to stop being a troll and trying to be gentle. After all you are new in this channel and insulting a lot of the regulars here [09:48] I'll have you know, I'm quite irregular today, but that's off-topic any how :) [09:48] As A RESULT, NOBODY TAKES YOU SERIOUSLY ANYMORE [09:48] oops [09:48] alienBOB: I'm not insulted.. I'm entertained [09:48] :))) [09:48] alienBOB: for me only ? [09:48] Action: Oldway_Ogiefay wavs hello to alienBOB [09:49] hashed_ (n=hashed@24.248.222.212) joined ##slackware. [09:49] mbhayes: I am not the right person for that I don't know who you are anymore [09:49] Oldway_Ogiefay: so you get your place by sucking ass of others [09:49] who is this amine anyway? [09:49] Amine forgot/never bothered to read the guidelines aswell since he/she PMed me without a permission. [09:50] kjell: OK man [09:50] Amine: Let's act like everyone in here is sociologically ignorant, except you. It doesn't matter. This is ##slackware. No ideological wars are going to be won, so why not just talk about your computer/OS issues? [09:50] Action: Amine I am sorry for others [09:50] I was just looking at rworkman's config files for /etc/acpi/ .. how can I make use of those (what do i need to do along with creating those config files) .. using 12.2 [09:50] ##slackware: mode change '+o alienBOB' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [09:51] here it comes [09:51] sos.. [09:51] er.. wow [09:51] I'm going back to work [09:51] Action: Oldway_Ogiefay can hear the ban hammer [09:51] Amine kicked from ##slackware by alienBOB: Behave [09:51] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: "leaving" [09:51] He is not banned [09:51] ah [09:51] But he will be if he persists [09:51] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [09:52] even just a good link to steer me in the right direction would be great. i'm not having much luck with google at the moment. [09:52] At times like this, I just ask myself, "WWBFD?" Boba Fett was so wise. [09:52] I have a meeting in 5 which will last an hour or more, so you can have your fun with him if he returns. But be gentle with him [09:52] kama (n=kama@87.19.116.62) joined ##slackware. [09:52] alienBOB, hahah ok :D [09:52] alienBOB: just some gently spank. [09:52] :) [09:52] what app you guys use for viewing .jpg files ? [09:52] alienBOB: can we use the soft cushions and the comfy chair? [09:53] phosphor (n=neon@41.208.50.160) joined ##slackware. [09:53] I am gentle with no man [09:53] call me sentimental, but I was thinking more of "a *clue* bat" [09:55] Nick change: Guest53251 -> reallove [09:56] mindbndr (n=neveraga@80.68.37.130) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:56] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) joined ##slackware. [09:58] pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) joined ##slackware. [10:00] akshat (n=akshat@59.178.186.178) joined ##slackware. [10:00] hi [10:01] hi [10:01] phosphor (n=neon@41.208.50.160) left irc: Connection reset by peer [10:02] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:02] Amine (n=chatzill@196.206.236.248) joined ##slackware. [10:02] phosphor (n=neon@41.208.50.160) joined ##slackware. [10:03] phosphor (n=neon@41.208.50.160) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:03] phosphor (n=neon@41.208.50.160) joined ##slackware. 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[10:07] phosphor (n=neon@41.208.50.160) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:08] Oldway_Ogiefay: yes, that i have already seen [10:08] thanks [10:08] i was just worried if something might be left out [10:08] akshat: also read the CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT which contain much usefull info. [10:08] like there was an old post about some aaa_ stuff that i don't rememeber now [10:09] BP{k}: thanks. will follow that :) [10:10] does upgradepkg first remove the old package before installation? [10:11] no. [10:11] upgradepkg works by first installing the new package and then removing the old package so that old files are no longer around on the system. (Slackbook::Chapter::18) [10:11] oh ok.. that was my concern.. [10:11] If you've got /home on its own partition, is there any reason not to just install a fresh 12.2? [10:11] how did you read my mind..? ;) [10:11] your config files and such [10:12] muraii: exactly what i ma doing [10:12] s/ma/am [10:12] hackedhead: Ja. 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[10:23] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [10:23] lw0x15: :'( [10:24] those rams were used by yahoo.co.uk [10:26] can anyone point me in the right direction to get suspend to work when i close the lid on my Lenovo IdeaPad Y510? I've found some hints here and there, but nothing fully explaining what i need to do.. [10:26] typically, you set up events and actions for acpi to perform [10:27] here are some good examples: http://www.rlworkman.net/conf/acpi/ [10:28] thrice`: i was looking at those, but should I be able to just add those in to /etc/acpi/ and make them executable.. and that's all? [10:28] so, when one of the events occurs (lid, for example), it calls an action specified [10:28] hashed_: yes, as long as acpi is running (which is is by default on slackware) [10:29] yeah.. i've been manually suspending by using pm-suspend [10:30] that should do it. some desktop environments have ways to catch the events too, without needed acpid, but this is the easiest and will work across the board :) [10:30] needing* [10:32] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.241.162) joined ##slackware. [10:32] evo_ (n=evo@p4FD4C6F6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:34] hi all, i am trying to build a package for the new firefox-3.0.6 but there is an error with mozila-firefox-simple.diff.gz pach. does someone have that pach for the new firefox release? [10:34] thanks a lot guys. have to go now. bye [10:34] :) [10:34] akshat (n=akshat@59.178.186.178) left ##slackware. [10:35] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:35] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [10:35] well, here we go with slack 12.2 =D [10:35] Sleepymess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:36] hwiesinger (n=hwiesing@a82-93-111-145.adsl.xs4all.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:36] DDrKPssNgR (n=J@189.82.173.233) joined ##slackware. [10:37] xeon (n=Hypersta@24-207-170-47.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [10:37] Nick change: xeon -> Solixa [10:37] DDrKPssNgR (n=J@189.82.173.233) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:38] ##slackware: mode change '-o alienBOB' by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [10:38] hashed_: You looked at the ThinkWiki, perchance? [10:38] thrice`: it worked! thanks. i just needed some encouragement :) [10:39] muraii: no, i haven't come across that yety [10:39] hashed_: no problem :) it's pretty trivial once you get it, but it did take me a couple days too :) [10:39] hashed_: Awesome. I didn't even know rworkman *had* a page about acpi. [10:40] Action: muraii runs a ThinkPad and doesn't have all the ACPI stuff working yet, either. [10:40] he only has his /etc/acpi/ directory posted out there [10:40] Even so. [10:40] i'm not too worried about hibernate and all the rest. i just want to be able to close the lid and not worry about it getting hot [10:41] evo- (n=evo@p4FD4CB59.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:41] Action: hashed_ loves slackware! [10:41] i hibernate mine at night, and otherwise just sleep like you said [10:41] i always come back to slack [10:41] hashed_: I close my lid all the time, and it doesn't get hot. I know the IdeaPad has a glossy screen, but I wouldn't think that has anything to do with it, and I don't imagine the other system differences are significant. [10:42] it gets hot if i don't suspend to ram [10:42] Hmm. Maybe your cores are beefier than mine. I have two @ 1.73GHz. [10:42] Lol, I keep mine running 24/7 [10:42] arktvrvs (i=stygian@adsl-69-149-148-250.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [10:43] mine are 2GHz [10:43] arktvrvs (i=stygian@adsl-69-149-148-250.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:44] ok, so maybe it doesn't get really hot. i'm just paranoid and don't want it to overheat. s2ram just makes me more confident that it's ok in its little carrier :) [10:46] hashed_: my acpi stuff works for you wihtout changes? [10:46] If so, what model Thinkpad is it? (I'd like to note what it's tested with) [10:47] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [10:47] rworkman: it works on my r61 [10:48] pprkut (n=hwiesing@a82-93-111-145.adsl.xs4all.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:48] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-199.nys.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:48] How to start alsa? [10:49] From the CLI? [10:49] alsamixer [10:50] thrice`: thanks - http://rlworkman.net/conf/acpi/ [10:50] goo1 (n=goo@cust-214-71.on2.ontelecoms.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:50] tnx [10:51] Action: muraii runs an R61 also. [10:51] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-179deb68b350db89) left irc: [10:51] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-199.nys.biz.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:52] muraii: refresh the page :) [10:52] goo1 (n=goo@cust-214-71.on2.ontelecoms.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:52] goo2 (n=goo@cust-214-71.on2.ontelecoms.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:52] Ja, just saw. [10:52] +) [10:52] I haven't taken your scripts yet, but I'm in the process (at work, so must appear to be...at work). [10:52] haha [10:52] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@83.103.39.119) left irc: "Leaving" [10:52] lol [10:52] goo2 (n=goo@cust-214-71.on2.ontelecoms.gr) left irc: Client Quit [10:53] Has anyone running kde 4.2 from -current noticed a gftp failure? [10:53] slobad (n=jake@62.249.219.218) left irc: "Leaving" [10:53] (I'm inquiring not for me, but wrt a report from user) [10:53] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@83.103.39.119) joined ##slackware. [10:53] goo1 (n=goo@cust-214-71.on2.ontelecoms.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:53] pprkut (n=hwiesing@a82-93-111-145.adsl.xs4all.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:54] rworkman: yes. it works without any changes. thank you! [10:54] i don't know what i'd do without you slackware pages :) [10:54] hashed_: good to hear; thanks :) [10:55] reaver__ (n=reaver@h69e.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:55] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-170-23.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:55] hashed_: You're not alone. [10:55] rworkman: it's not a ThinkPad though, it's an IdeaPad [10:55] IdeaPad Y510 [10:55] hwiesinger (n=hwiesing@a82-93-111-145.adsl.xs4all.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:57] hashed_: I assume you like that one. I almost bought one, but went a bit less expensive. [10:57] ktabic (n=ktabic@host81-139-194-250.in-addr.btopenworld.com) left irc: "I'm a professionally trainined computer scientist. That is to say, I am poorly educated" [10:57] muraii: yes, I'm extremely happy with it. The best I've ever had. [10:57] goo2 (n=goo@cust-214-71.on2.ontelecoms.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:58] I'd like to get volume hotkeys working, too, but I don't have time to tinker. [10:58] goo1 (n=goo@cust-214-71.on2.ontelecoms.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:59] foureyes779 (n=theron@unaffiliated/foureyes779) joined ##slackware. [10:59] I haven't got my volume keys working yet either. I'm not too worried about them though. And alsa only seems to use the front center speakers even though there are 3 more [10:59] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@89-96-108-186.ip12.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [11:00] polydektes (n=chatzill@nat/ibm/x-cf8fbfdb74fa2451) joined ##slackware. [11:01] is there a way to do chmod 775 and then do chmod g+s in the same line? [11:01] ..and it just now occured to me that i need to figure out 3d acceleration with my intel integrated graphics [11:01] polydektes: chmod 2775 [11:01] evo_ (n=evo@p4FD4C6F6.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [11:02] hashed_: "X -configure" should generate a working xorg.conf that will enable acceleration [11:03] if you did 1775 what difference would that make? [11:03] ... sheesh another X config method i've never heard of [11:03] ".....it's not a ThinkPad though, it's an IdeaPad" hmpf, I use a "wonderpad" . I wonder what it's like to be more than 166 mhz :) [11:03] .... there are toooo many [11:03] polydektes: that first bit in the #### is "special" -- 1=sticky 2=sgid 4=suid [11:03] ahh [11:03] Oldway_Ogiefay: my GF uses a Maxipad... [11:03] hahaha [11:04] lol [11:04] Oldway_Ogiefay: It's like upgrading from a Trabant to a Tesla, I imagine. [11:06] foureyes779 (n=theron@unaffiliated/foureyes779) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:09] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.16) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:09] nfoss (n=codehabi@pool-71-112-166-132.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:09] hmm what would be the difference between sticky and set uid? [11:10] Lalloso (n=h4x0r@62.123.95.200) left ##slackware. [11:10] rworkman: after running X-configure, will it completely overwrite my old xorg.conf, wiping out the changes i've already made? [11:10] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:10] holdmypocket (n=choward@vpn.cusonet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:10] hashed_: no. It will write it to /root/xorg.conf.new [11:10] polydektes: sticky bit means that only the creator of the file can delete it [11:11] ok [11:11] how can I restart alsa? my sound and everything works fine for awhile.. then starts to stutter.. the only way for me to fix it is to reboot. it would be nice if i could just restart alsa [11:11] rworkman: no matter the subsequent privileges of other groups i take it? [11:13] is it possible to have a widescreen (1680x1050) console mode? [11:13] (WW) intel: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found [11:13] rworkman: howdy ;-) [11:14] pprkut (n=hwiesing@a82-93-111-145.adsl.xs4all.nl) left irc: Connection timed out [11:14] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009107135.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:14] Hey guys, I'm installing VMWare and I've forgotten what to do about dependencies.. I need /bin/sh [11:14] Solixa: what? [11:14] the only "dependency" you'll run into is that of needing PAm if you're using VMware 2.0 [11:15] Sec, [11:15] Making paste [11:15] VMWare will install, but authentication to the web interface will fail without PAM [11:15] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:15] rworkman: Again, Thank you! Another problem quickly resolved. [11:16] mbhayes, http://pastebin.com/db7121ce [11:16] polydektes: yep [11:16] alienBOB: greets! :) [11:16] alienBOB: I did correctly remember that you're on a T42, right? [11:16] thanks for help rworkman [11:16] :-) [11:16] is ~153 fps decent for glxgears in fullscreen? [11:16] polydektes (n=chatzill@nat/ibm/x-cf8fbfdb74fa2451) left ##slackware. [11:17] mbhayes, should i use --nodeps? [11:17] hashed_: glxgears is not a performance measuring app [11:17] ISP sucks... google takes 30 secs to load, and i have a consistant ping of 20.55 to freenode.. [11:17] Solixa: You're installing an rpm on Slackware? [11:17] why? [11:17] Ive installed rpms [11:17] Why shouldn't I? [11:18] can alsa be restarted? [11:18] (Sorry, kinda new to linux =/ ) [11:18] hackedhead: what card/chip? [11:18] rworkman: I have a work-issued T41 which I use every day and a T42 at home for LVM/LUKS testing [11:18] holdmypocket, maybe you can just rmmod/modprobe the sound card module? [11:18] macavity: what's a better way to test 3d acceleration? it's just a good visual representation for me [11:18] hashed_, run a computer game that uses 3d acceleration and see how it performs [11:19] mbhayes, They have a .bundle and a .rpm available at vmware.com. Get the bundle? [11:19] alienBOB: okay, that's good enough :) [11:19] bloodfrontier [11:19] hashed_: but again, what card/chip is it? [11:19] lol -> 17:21 -!- Irssi: Join to ##slackware was synced in 128 secs [11:19] The T41 uses your ACPI script stuff and can successfully hibernate using Fn-F12 [11:19] excuse me if i go out of sync with the rest of the conversation :P [11:20] rworkman: ^^^ [11:20] pprkut (n=hwiesing@dhcp-077-249-044-213.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:20] macavity: it's a GM965 (Intel 965 Express Chipset [11:21] nice [11:21] mine is just a 945 [11:21] your luckey [11:21] youll be one of the first people to enjoy Gallium3D [11:21] alienBOB: ah, so you're not using that stuff on the T42 then; okay [11:22] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:22] hashed_: currently do not expect wonders from it though... it performs decent enough when things arent textured [11:22] macavity: cool! I guess i should check out Gallium3D now just because you said that :) I'm not much of a gamer [11:22] hashed_: but as soon as surfacess gets textured with bitmaps it kinda runs out of steem [11:22] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [11:23] hashed_: its still in the molding.. i just happen to be a Mesa fan :P [11:23] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:23] Solixa: You may be better off trying rpm2tgz [11:23] hashed_: your best source of information is Zack Rusin's blog [11:23] I wouldn't instlal an rpm into slackware [11:24] Lol, kk [11:24] However, if you need it for just one machine.. you could use virtualbox [11:24] which there is a build script for it at SBo [11:24] what's a good game that utilized 3d acceleration, that i can easily find a slackbuild for? [11:24] i wouldnt take apart a wrist watch with a hammer either... [11:24] rworkman: I have not really done anything with the T42 in half a year. I should re-install it with -current (it is pre-12.0) [11:24] Pre-12.1 rather [11:24] hashed_: bloodfrontier [11:25] hashed_: you just download the tarball from their site, unpack it and run the bloodfronteir.sh inside [11:25] hashed_: no need to install it [11:25] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) joined ##slackware. [11:25] cool.. my favorite kind!! [11:25] mbhayes, Thanks, downloading VBox now [11:26] yup.. it is still in release candidate state, but it plays nicely here [11:26] downloading it now [11:26] anyone familiar with sendmail's trusted-users? [11:27] Action: macavity backs off [11:27] sendmail gets people killed on a regular basis :P [11:27] added apache to the file and restarted sendmail... but still generates a header warning [11:27] I had to use trusted users to be able to send automated emails without added warnings [11:27] Razec (n=razec@189.56.183.198) left irc: "Leaving" [11:27] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:28] alienBOB: not working for me... unless i have the syntax wrong for the file or something [11:28] not tell your wife?? ;-) [11:28] die sendmail; use postfix [11:28] [11:28] er, wrong channel. :/ [11:28] alienBOB: though all it is is a commented line and then one line with apache on it [11:29] rworkman: hahahaha [11:29] mbhayes: not useful... postfix for org MTA.. but just to mail outh from apache is overkill [11:29] alienBOB: :) [11:29] rworkman: It now raises the question of.. what did that comment have to do with? [11:29] Zordrak: you can also add "Tapache" to sendmail.cf and see if that does work [11:29] mbhayes: it's a secret. :D [11:29] Zordrak: and sendmail isn't overkill? [11:29] NO [11:29] that's a bit of a lame reason Zordrak [11:29] mbhayes: dieplskthx [11:30] oye [11:30] Zordrak: pastebin of you config? [11:30] *your [11:31] hahahaa. teeworlds w/o hardware accel == fail! [11:31] macavity: slackware default [11:32] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [11:32] alienBOB: added Tapache under Tuucp -- no change [11:32] duryodhan (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-316b62006f749319) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120908]" [11:33] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:33] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:33] *grrr* [11:33] it *is* using /etc/mail/sendmail.cf by default right? [11:34] i *really* need to pull myself together and finish my woktenna [11:34] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: Client Quit [11:35] or buy your own internet like an honest person [11:35] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:36] phasor (n=phazor@41.208.50.160) joined ##slackware. [11:36] ALVAN (n=erters@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [11:37] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@h90-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) joined ##slackware. [11:38] hello [11:38] AHAH [11:38] subwit.cf [11:38] submit.cf [11:39] Action: Oldway_Ogiefay wonders why people cant make a usr doc in just text...no latex2this this2that, on and on ... [11:40] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.241.162) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [11:41] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [11:42] Oldway_Ogiefay: text? wtf is text? [11:42] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: "leaving" [11:42] spent 2 hours trying to build a damn help manual, this is nuts [11:42] ... [11:43] everything should be in man pages [11:43] honestly [11:43] pprkut (n=hwiesing@dhcp-077-249-044-213.chello.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:43] yeah this is just retarded [11:44] Omega_Red (n=thiago@189.81.4.202) joined ##slackware. [11:44] Hi does anyone here know if the Pro/wireless 3945ABG wireless card is functioning correctly with 2.6.28 kernel ? [11:44] they cry for standards, then make a gazillion ways to make a help doc, for a million locatoins, [11:45] hashed_: There's always Savage, which is free (as in beer) and available for Linux. [11:45] that need a ton o' depends [11:45] ...which is a 3D game to test your performance. [11:45] Action: vyrux salam [11:46] rworkman: Still on #illicitcopulants, I see. For shame. [11:46] im getting sporadic connections that begin and then grind to a halt [11:47] wow.... im brain dead... i forgot how to compile a kernel... [11:48] lack of sleeps [11:50] Cann0n: make menuconfig [11:50] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.218.156) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:50] i dunno howe many times ive made a kernel... im on less than two hours sleep [11:50] lol [11:51] :-) [11:51] i want oldconfig then xconfig [11:52] k_wolf (n=wolf@201008248168.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:52] ftl [11:53] checking suspend [11:53] not actually making a new kernel yet [11:53] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-113-226.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Connection timed out [11:54] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:55] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@89-96-108-186.ip12.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [11:55] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:56] ZmoKus-Oposumas (n=karolis@77.90.73.237) joined ##slackware. [11:59] I have Slackware 12.1 can I just download slackpkg and do a sync for 12.2, slackpkg install-new, slackpkg update-all ? [11:59] skibur: man slackpkg. [11:59] will that put me at Slackware 12.2? [12:01] no that will show you the man page [12:01] heh :) [12:01] 12.2 is pretty popular today. [12:01] BP{k}, hahah well it will :) [12:02] true :) [12:02] hmm. Wine won't let me install a windows app through wine, in a normal user account. But when I try it from root everything is fine. Does my normal user need to be a part of a specific group for wine? [12:02] hashed_: shouldn't. [12:02] so... [12:02] wine as root, /me puts the tin foil hat on [12:02] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) joined ##slackware. [12:03] Oldway_Ogiefay: i know, i know... [12:03] skibur, ...whats the upgrade guide on the mirror say ? [12:03] figured it couldnt hurt to try though [12:03] I read it [12:03] and? [12:03] :( [12:03] it just better to install via CD [12:03] :) [12:03] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [12:03] agreed [12:03] skibur: and what did slackpkg(8) tell you? [12:04] it told me that ppc upgrades for the Wii might help with the port [12:04] alisonken1 (n=alisonke@38.99.247.88) joined ##slackware. [12:06] hmpf, and wisenheimer(10) ? what's that manpage say? [12:06] :) [12:07] Action: Oldway_Ogiefay exec's rain on everyone's console :) [12:07] hashed_: Not unlike asking your sworn enemy if (s)he has time to perform open-heart surgery on you. [12:07] lol [12:08] thats keeping the enemy too close [12:08] lfamorim (n=Lucas@189-55-201-200-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:09] phasor: Ja. Brando would raise an eyebrow for sure. [12:10] muraii: ok ok.. point made. I won't do it again :) [12:10] Action: hashed_ hides in the corner [12:10] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. 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[12:40] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn235.78-99-32.t-com.sk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:43] any cobol programmers here? (know of a good and simple cobol compiler for linux?) [12:45] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: "leaving" [12:45] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [12:48] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:48] man.. the intartubez are totally clogged up today :-/ [12:48] who poured tea leaves into the intarnet zink again?!? [12:49] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:49] Nick change: n1hub -> nlhub [12:52] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@h90-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:52] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@h90-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:58] the cake IS a lie! [12:59] goo2 (n=goo@cust-214-71.on2.ontelecoms.gr) left ##slackware. [12:59] the pie will set you free [13:00] Action: lw0x15 wants some pie [13:00] no, the cake can't be a lie ! what am I going to eat ? ='( [13:00] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009107135.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:00] Action: nooper points to a stack of pies [13:01] Buggaboo (n=bug@535398F0.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:01] Action: jgor overflows the pie stack and redirects flow to pudding [13:02] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [13:03] Supergrilo (n=fabio@unaffiliated/lovezinho) joined ##slackware. [13:03] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@unaffiliated/lovezinho' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [13:03] Supergrilo kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: requested [13:04] kiko__ (n=kiko@151.53.252.85) joined ##slackware. [13:04] ciao a tutti [13:04] necropresto (n=necropre@unaffiliated/necropresto) joined ##slackware. [13:04] ragazzi avete usato mai un server ftp? [13:04] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.25) left irc: [13:04] sto impazzendo [13:04] o.O [13:04] Camarade_Tux: i haz seen it wit mai own eyez! if you hax your way down to the caek room with your companion cube and you place the cube ontop of teh cake, you will see that it is just a hollogram [13:04] kiko__: the main language of this channel is english :) [13:04] THE CEAK IS LIE!!! [13:06] Camarade_Tux: http://youtube.com/watch?v=e5QveX3-1O8 [13:06] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.2) joined ##slackware. [13:06] Ikea is a lie? [13:06] :P [13:06] kiko__ (n=kiko@151.53.252.85) left irc: Success [13:07] that too.. but thats no conspiracey, rather just common knowledge :P [13:08] necropresto (n=necropre@unaffiliated/necropresto) left ##slackware. [13:09] kannan (n=kannan@121.246.242.95) joined ##slackware. [13:09] Camarade_Tux: look exactly 3:15 into that vid and you will see that the ceak IS a liez! [13:12] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [13:13] Gargantua (i=Gargantu@S0106001fd0636f41.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:13] Gargantua_ (i=Gargantu@S0106001fd0636f41.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:14] Jewpermess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:15] n1hub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:18] why I barely if ever file bugs, or file "atta boy" anymore. try and help you get your wee wee whacked. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2009-02/msg00167.html [13:18] oh not my bug there, but nonetheless [13:18] harmattan (n=harmatta@82.158.2.193.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [13:21] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC0333F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:21] Oldway_Ogiefay: how are you today ? [13:21] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:21] dtanner, ok I guess, a little craby after trying to build help docs from latex (which failed) [13:22] dtanner, and you? [13:22] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:22] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [13:25] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:25] Nick change: n1hub -> nlhub [13:25] is kdict a kde front-end for a dictionary app? Or is it all one program? I'm asking because I'd like to be able to look up words in bash [13:25] fau_ (n=fAu@81-174-13-169.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [13:26] when I google search this I keep getting the dictinoary definition of the word bash :P [13:27] fAu (n=fAu@81-174-13-169.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:28] Chocotoff (n=Chocotof@195-240-212-157.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:28] Oldway_Ogiefay: doing ok , need more sleep as i did not get a good nights sleep. [13:29] Oldway_Ogiefay: other than that i have RTFM on writing udev rules. Had to solve my all-in-one printer-scanner-copier perms. [13:31] Oldway_Ogiefay: when I set the usb device ( via udev ) group to "lp" then scanning as a regular user in group scanner did not work and visa-versa. I fixed it by writing a udev rule to set the correct perms so both scanning and printing by a normal user was always available. [13:33] dtanner, "plugdev" group didn't help? [13:33] dtanner, lp,scanner and plugdev == hp printing joy for me [13:33] nope [13:33] and scanner as well [13:33] hmm, odd [13:34] that worked for me as well for one or the other , not both at the same time printing+scanning [13:34] wahcordian|Work: i believe it's just a frontend for 'dict'. [13:34] dtanner: could you pastebin that udev rule? [13:35] dtanner: i have an all in one HP that i have yet to plug in [13:35] I believe you had issues, but surprised this here from C&H didn't help: "HP multifunction printer/scanners require that your user account be a member of the "lp" group for hp-toolbox to work properly, and to use the scanner portion of some (all?) units, you'll need to be a member of the "lp" group. This is because hplip's udev rules set the device with group "lp" ownership." [13:35] sure i can paste it here , only one line in 90-local.rules [13:35] roger [13:35] dtanner, did you 'upgrade' to 12.2 to ? maybe some udev rule got left over? [13:35] macavity: you have to find the serial number of your allinone with udevadm and replace it of course [13:36] ok [13:36] slackytude (i=schwebel@stud.fbi.h-da.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:36] Oldway_Ogiefay: no other way would work , yes i am on 12.2, i installed it cleanly , believe me , i tried everything i could think of so it would be set at boot time [13:36] h8R (n=ari_pak@95-42-98-116.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [13:37] Nick change: fau_ -> fAu [13:37] my all in one is usb and network, both seem to work, is yours usb? or parrallel? wonder if that's an issue. [13:37] macavity: udevadm info -a -p `udevadm info -q path -n /dev/bus/usb/001/002` replacing the path to your device 00?/00? of course will spit out your serial number [13:37] well, not seem...it works (/me looks to sky and says thankyou) [13:37] ah it is usb [13:37] macavity: for this line [13:37] dtanner: you should check with the udev folks. Slackware is the distro that comes the closest to being fully vanilla with udev [13:37] Oldway_Ogiefay: is yours an all in one printer and scanner ? [13:38] dtanner, yes [13:38] hello is it pain in the ass to upgrade GTK, so I can use firefox3 ? [13:38] fax too [13:38] but I dont have 'reportlab' :( [13:38] have to build that so I can fax [13:38] dtanner: what does the rule itself look like once i have the serial number? [13:38] Oldway_Ogiefay: this hp f4240 shows up as one bus id so it was a pain in that respect , not two devices [13:38] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [13:38] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:39] hi has anyone got the following adapter to work ? Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter [13:39] yeah, even slack 12.1 boxes are working here with it as well. same thing, lp,scanner,plugdev [13:39] macavity: SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTRS{serial}=="CN87B2P3SW05BR", MODE="0666" ( it is not a network printer either ) just usb local net [13:39] bb [13:39] jgor, it's weird, I have a man entry for dict, but dict is not an available command for some reason. [13:39] dtanner: thx a bunch [13:40] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [13:40] Oldway_Ogiefay: when you do lsusb do you get two device lines for your all in one , one for the printing and one for the scanning ? [13:40] U-Neeks_ (i=555@201-88-241-72.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [13:40] macavity: np [13:40] phasor: you have two options: madwifi (which contains a propietary blob) or upgrade to kernel .28.x which has the native ath5k driver [13:41] phasor: i use the later, and it works nicely (though it is not supported by HostAP yet) [13:41] hi thanx for the reply [13:41] phasor: that is, HostAP has yet to support mac80211 based drivers, but that will come, as that is the stack that all drivers will eventually get ported to [13:42] i have upgraded to 6.2.28 [13:42] lsmod | grep ath5k [13:42] hd-hoc does not seem to be working either [13:43] nope, you can connect to an AP and go online.. and thats about it :P [13:43] ath5k 106568 0 [13:43] mac80211 132380 1 ath5k [13:43] led_class 3268 1 ath5k [13:43] Channel flood from phasor -- kicking [13:43] cfg80211 25680 2 ath5k,mac80211 [13:43] phasor kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [13:43] hehe that always makes me laugh [13:43] Oldway_Ogiefay: when you do lsusb do you get two device lines for your all in one , one for the printing and one for the scanning ? [13:43] phasor (n=phazor@41.208.50.160) joined ##slackware. [13:44] dam sorry did not realise that would be flooding [13:45] Oldway_Ogiefay: my brother in law is selling a 600 dollar humidor for 225 bucks [13:46] humidor? [13:46] phasor: you are all set to go [13:46] macavity, thanx just needed to confirm that, been driving me up the bend [13:46] straterra: for cigars and pipe tobacco [13:46] phasor: i can confirm that it does WEP, TKIP and CCMP [13:46] ad-hoc connects for about 5 seconds and then just hangs [13:46] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:46] probably [13:47] you should grep the .28.1 and .28.2 logs for fixes to ath5k [13:47] macavity: you seem to have a lot of knowledge concerning wireless , once i set mine up here if I run into any snags i know who to ask =) [13:47] dtanner: ask away :P [13:48] i will do ;-) [13:48] phasor: you can also git clone the latest version of the entire mac80211 stack and ath5k... that will get you the latest and greatest [13:48] dtanner, I'm back. I only have one showing for that printer [13:48] was waiting for 29: gives the gurus some time ;-) [13:49] phasor: both of them build nicely out-of-tree [13:49] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [13:49] thanx for the heads up [13:49] phasor: and one more thing: there is a reason Patrick always ships x.x.x.as-high-as-possible [13:50] phasor: the x.x.x releases tend to be less polished as x.x.x.somethign-big releases [13:50] holdmypocket (n=choward@vpn.cusonet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:50] Oldway_Ogiefay: well with this hp the issue was it had one device in /dev/bus/proc/usb/001/002 , and if i set it to group scanner i could sscane but not print , if i set the group to lp i could only print. thus the reason i had to work with perms so both scanning and printing could be done. must be my model or something. [13:51] mmm ok will keep that in mind [13:51] and since the wireless stack and drivers are develeoped on a seperate cycle, it pretty much doesn matter when you pull from their master git [13:51] have not been able to get madwifi to compile under this kernel [13:51] you pull out the stuff you need, and if it blows up, you just make modules_install in your original kernel source to over write you test versions [13:51] /dev/bus/usb/001/002 <- correction [13:52] dtanner, I get that too, so I'm in all groups and it works, you tried that too, in lp,scanner both at same time? [13:52] Oldway_Ogiefay: yup [13:52] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [13:52] mmm that is beyond me : grin [13:52] phasor: madwifi is on life support :P [13:52] dtanner, oh did you add the printer with 'hp-setup' tool? or thru cups? [13:52] lol [13:52] dtanner, I used the 'hp-setup' gui tool [13:52] Oldway_Ogiefay: cups [13:52] Oldway_Ogiefay: i tried the hp-setup also [13:52] ah that's why [13:52] yeah cups will certainly fail that way [13:53] hplip codes the groups [13:53] maybe i did not set it up proplery with hp-setup , everything checked ok with no errors [13:53] oh, it goes like this: you git clone mac80211 and ath5k from the master wireless branch. this creates two directories, which you do make modules_install in each of [13:53] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.42) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:54] dtanner, well save your udev rule, but make a mental note, if you reload, use the hp-setup one and it'll work, mark my words :) I just remember we had someone else here same issue. [13:54] udev handles the groups for that allinone here, not hplip, because whatever group i set in udev rule stuck with the device [13:55] I will kill cups and try the hp-setup again and maybe that was th easiest fix. I already tried it though. it said all was good but it was not all good. [13:55] High_Priest (n=Mean@cable-89-216-140-38.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: "..." [13:56] less /etc/udev/rules.d/55-hpmud.rules <-- in hplip package ---> SUBSYSTEM=="ppdev", OWNER="root", GROUP="lp", MODE="0660" [13:56] hplip does in fact have udev rules and grup perms [13:56] talk about confusing matters huh :) [13:56] i see that but running hp-setup did not work for me [13:57] *shrug* [13:57] dtanner, utf8? [13:57] confused (i=1000@c-24-20-144-65.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:57] yes [13:57] ah ok, [13:57] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.42) joined ##slackware. [13:57] yeah they pulled that B$ not too long ago, you launch the icon, and go thru wizards, nothing works, and it's cuz you were using iso-8559-1 not utf8 [13:57] High_Priest (n=Mean@cable-89-216-140-38.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [13:58] dtanner, I wonder if you shouldn't send that udev rule / model off to rworkman for him to peruse over. maybe it's not ID'd right or something, and hplip needs a bug report. [13:59] Does anyone know why my box wont let me boot from a disk, I checked the disk to make sure its bootable in a different computer and made sure my boot priorities were set right in the bios but for some reason I cant get it to boot from a disk it just goes strait to the lilo loader. [14:00] confused, bad drive [14:00] Oldway_Ogiefay: will do. [14:00] ice_nine (n=ice_nine@CPE000af47c0c00-CM001bd7cb8f1a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [14:01] high_preist, Its the one i used to boot from originally and it still seems to work fine though [14:01] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) left irc: "Leaving" [14:01] uva (i=bono@118-168-237-236.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:02] Oldway_Ogiefay: hplip-2.8.10-i486-1 <- your version ? [14:02] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) joined ##slackware. [14:03] dtanner, yup :) [14:04] holdmypocket (n=choward@vpn.cusonet.net) joined ##slackware. [14:04] dtanner, I have to rebuild it for gnome cups printer scripts to work right [14:04] my rule from that package is not in /etc it is -> lib/udev/rules.d/55-hpmud.rules [14:04] makes life very easy [14:04] dtanner, yes I copied from my 12.1 box, udev's been moved in 12.2 [14:04] is it normal for youtube to run at 85% cpu useage? [14:05] dtanner, not all my boxes are 12.2 (and most likely wont be either) [14:05] ls [14:06] doh! [14:06] Oldway_Ogiefay: why not, out of curiosity ? [14:07] arktvrvs (i=stygian@adsl-69-149-148-250.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:07] arktvrvs (i=stygian@adsl-69-149-148-250.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:07] arktvrvs (i=stygian@adsl-69-149-148-250.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:08] zhorX (i=zhorx@warp.skyhook.ca) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:08] thrice`, the gtk stuff runs very slow (regressions), intel drivers are too jumpy on in video and I get very odd colors when going from a DRI to non-dri window. ATI binaries wont build anymore on r300's, and the free driver for r300 is just too slow :( [14:08] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:09] Haha, Horde is telling me in it's test that the memory limit in php isn't set high enough, 128M, and should at least be 64M. How stupid is that? Anyways, would anyone recommend increasing it any higher than 128M? [14:09] thrice`, for example, a game like neverball, on 12.1 is highly playable even running tv at same time (which is just a stress test, but still). On 12.2 I can't even run neverball, minimize it, and be able to use the pc, I can lock up. [14:09] ... [14:10] php.ini agentc0reWORK [14:11] Omega_Red (n=thiago@189.81.4.202) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [14:12] Necos: Yup, i know that. [14:13] lucio12345 (n=chatzill@host-84-220-231-209.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [14:13] hello how to rename multiple files [14:13] rename .MOD .mp4 *.MOD [14:13] it doesn't work [14:13] http://pastebin.learnix.net/12 [14:14] syntax error at (eval 1) line 1, near "." [14:14] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@h90-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) left irc: Connection timed out [14:14] mr-S (n=sven@cc1312074-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:14] lucio12345: use an for i loop [14:14] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:14] a for i loop??? [14:14] lucio12345: Remove the .'s for the first two. [14:15] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [14:15] Megabyte (i=x@201.78.248.71) joined ##slackware. [14:15] hey [14:15] how do I install cyrillic fonts in X [14:15] ? [14:15] Bareword "MOD" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1. [14:15] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-64.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [14:16] laters [14:16] wahcordian|Work (n=wahcordi@97-119-176-223.albq.qwest.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:17] phasor (n=phazor@41.208.50.160) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:18] Hi. Every time I use slackpkg it only updates userland packages. Are the default kernels excluded from security updates? [14:18] Yes [14:19] basically, yes. kernel updates would affect userland as well as libs, so slackpkg doesn't allow kernel package updates [14:19] memory_limit = 128M in php.ini [14:19] You can allow them in /etc/slackpkg/blacklist, but it's not recommended. [14:19] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:20] cruliedin (n=rld@67.159.33.195) joined ##slackware. [14:20] http://youtube.com/watch?v=L2SED6sewRw <<- NICE talk about the kernel develoment process! [14:21] So it is up to the admin to get patches or newer kernels? [14:21] kernel development process is changing from what I have read [14:21] harmattan: yes [14:21] lucio12345 (n=chatzill@host-84-220-231-209.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008121622]" [14:22] Is anyone here russian, belgian, macedonian? [14:22] Good to know. Thank you all ;-) [14:22] all 3 of those? what would the chances be :) [14:22] hehe :) [14:22] deLusion__ (n=deLusion@pool-173-65-163-125.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "The game." [14:23] deLusion_ (n=deLusion@pool-173-65-163-125.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:23] like saying "anyone have a blue eye, a brown eye and 2 left feet?" [14:23] :D [14:23] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [14:23] Necos: I was reading that message horde was giving me wrong. I missed the IF, and started reading at PHP which gives it a totally new context. And it's already set to that in my php.ini, that what it reports and also showing in that message i pastebin'd. Just an error on my part on reading the message in full context and also a miss communication between me and you. [14:23] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) joined ##slackware. [14:24] lol [14:26] Chocotoff (n=Chocotof@195-240-212-157.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:26] xteraco_ (n=xteraco@67.133.153.3) left irc: "Leaving" [14:26] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.193.79) joined ##slackware. [14:27] shyko (n=chatzill@201.71.54.144) joined ##slackware. [14:28] hey im trying to download an iso but the problem is that the servers suck on which their hosted. i want to use multiple mirrors to download the same iso, ive done this in windows with a download manager but ive never tried it in my linux, what tool would i need to do this or is there a way to use multiple mirrors with wget or something?? [14:28] confused (i=1000@c-24-20-144-65.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:29] Use a torrent [14:29] fAu (n=fAu@81-174-13-169.static.ngi.it) left irc: "42" [14:29] (See topic) [14:29] SM177Y: ya, you could search mininova for whatever you are trying to download. [14:30] i already looked for a torrent, nothing for it [14:30] jean-1uc (n=jean-1uc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:31] theres many mirrors to get it from, they just all suck and most are from different countries, so if i could get parts from multiple mirrors i could get a decent download rate [14:31] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:31] SM177Y: What are you downloading? [14:33] an iso [14:33] 4.2 gigs lol [14:33] >_> [14:33] but at 250K that sucks [14:33] Wait... you're getting 250K? [14:34] Action: jkwood gives up [14:34] especially when my internet will let me download at 8megs/second lol [14:34] 250k/s is horrible [14:34] thatll take like 4 hours [14:34] lol that sucks [14:34] 250 is quite adequate [14:34] SM177Y: I think jkwood was looking for a bit more specific information. [14:34] fabricio` (n=fabricio@mailhost.techmaster.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:34] start the dl and take a nap [14:34] Kerio2004 (n=Port@77.64.40.200) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:34] or go for a walk [14:34] Portmapper (n=Port@78.93.156.135) joined ##slackware. [14:34] BK{k}: like what? [14:35] like *what* you are downloading. [14:35] i already said that. a 4.2 gig linux uso [14:35] iso** [14:35] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-0-176.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [14:36] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-0-176.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: SendQ exceeded [14:36] SM177Y: OF WHAT? [14:36] SM177Y: a car? an app? a distro? [14:36] the answer to my question doesnt require knowing what it is im trying to download anyways. i just need to know how to download from multiple mirrors simultaneously. [14:36] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-0-176.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [14:36] Well, I was going to offer to pull it on my server and then let you download it from there, but that's going to be very difficult. [14:36] a distro. but that is irrelevant [14:37] lol [14:37] jkwood: i kind of had a feeling that's what you were going to try to do. [14:37] jkwood: that would be great and all but if u cant get the download speed either than im still in the same boat, having to wait for u to download it first [14:38] Action: BP{k} goes to defluff his belly button as that seems to be more worthwhile of his time [14:38] BP{k}: LOL. [14:38] using a torrent is as close to downloading from multiple servers at once as you will get [14:39] Kget can do it in KDE 4, though I don't know if that helps you. [14:39] you're still held back by your own down stream speed though, doesn't matter if you can download from 50 servers at once [14:39] jkwood: does it already? I know ktorrent can add http links, but is it finished in kget yet? [14:39] nullboy: not necessarily, ive accomplished this feat in windows using FDM, so im sure theres a way to do it in linux [14:39] >.<; [14:40] jigdo, maybe? [14:40] pprkut: It appears so here. I didn't look too hard. [14:40] umm...no...you are necessarily hampered by your own download speed no matter how many servers you try to download from [14:41] you can't get something from nothing [14:41] Razec (n=razec@189.56.183.198) joined ##slackware. [14:41] jkwood: would be really nice. [14:42] something from nothing, kinda like the bailout for the financial institutions [14:44] all that downloading from multiple servers at once will make sure of is that your down stream speed is fully saturated but it can't magically make it faster than your max down speed unless you bond two lines together and track connections across each line with a router setup to do so [14:44] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.193.79) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:44] someone haxed his gibson [14:45] :o [14:46] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.193.79) joined ##slackware. [14:46] SM177Y: i think i know what you're trying to accomplish http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/something_like_this.jpg [14:46] LOL [14:47] nullboy++ [14:47] heh [14:47] deLusion_ (n=deLusion@pool-173-65-163-125.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "The game." [14:47] jean-1uc (n=jean-1uc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:48] hah [14:49] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.193.79) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:50] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:50] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:50] lol [14:50] nullboy is always a laugh and a halff [14:50] deLusion_ (n=deLusion@pool-173-65-163-125.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:50] lol [14:50] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.193.79) joined ##slackware. [14:50] pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:50] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-130-122-188.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [14:51] and i was innorthridge a couple of weeks ago... should have stopped by on my way back and said hi lol [14:51] i'm all over that area lately too [14:51] i was probably out there during that time [14:51] lol [14:52] harmattan (n=harmatta@82.158.2.193.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:52] ok screw kget. every time i even try to run kget my computer just instantly locks. gay [14:53] has anyone else had issues with sound stuttering in 12.2? [14:53] word345 (n=word345@ll62-69-188-251-62.ll62.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [14:53] i got it to work by adding my user to the audio group.. but i came back to the computer later and it was doing it again [14:53] the only way to fix it was to reboot [14:53] not me [14:53] what chip? [14:53] no, that surely is not the only way to fix it [14:54] my laptop uses the intel HDA drivers [14:54] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@h90-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:54] chip: analog devices ad1981b [14:54] integrated soundcard on an hp [14:55] i tray install Virtualbox from source but i receive this error : ./configure: line 1250: cd: /usr/qt/3: No such file or directory [14:55] fail [14:55] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:55] word345: because /usr/qt/3 is not a valid directory :) [14:56] word345: did you use the slackbuild? [14:56] so is it possible to just restart alsa? [14:56] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:56] (i suspect no) [14:56] so i don't have to reboot [14:56] holdmypocket: what app are you having this problem with? [14:56] i've never heard of the whole alsa system doign such things [14:56] youtube, listening to radio on pandora, videos on cnn [14:56] flash i suppose? [14:56] jean-1uc (n=jean-1uc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:56] BP{k}, yes [14:56] can you play local mp3s, say with mpg321 without stuttering? [14:57] do you have qt3 installed btw? [14:57] BP{k}, VirtualBox-2.0.6-OSE.tar.bz2 [14:57] AFAIK, the virtual-box-ose doesn't look for /usr/qt/3 [14:57] word345: that is the SOURCE archive. [14:57] NOT what I asked. [14:57] holdmypocket: yeah, i'm going to suspect flash, rather than alsa, is the problem. [14:58] kama (n=kama@host35-112-dynamic.8-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:58] word345: right, lets try this again. How did you build it?: [14:58] have you tried just closing the browser,( and making sure its not still running ) and then loading it up agian? [14:58] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.193.79) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [14:59] BP{k}, ./configure --disable-hardening [14:59] In case anyone needs a buildscript for reportlab, it gets used by hplip : http://pastebin.com/d361d57d5 [14:59] BP{k}, Checking for Qt3: found version 3.3.8b, OK. [14:59] ./configure: line 1250: cd: /usr/qt/3: No such file or directory [14:59] Checking for Qt3 devtools: [14:59] Channel flood from word345 -- kicking [14:59] ** /usr/qt/3/bin/moc (variable QT3DIR/bin) not found! [14:59] word345 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [14:59] .... [15:00] there has been a lot of that recently. [15:00] hahaah [15:00] LOL [15:00] slackboy: <3 [15:00] word345 (n=word345@ll62-69-188-251-62.ll62.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [15:00] BP{k}++ [15:01] lol [15:01] word345, that's _NOT_ using the slackbuild... so you lied =p [15:01] ++++ [15:01] Necos: of course he wasn't .. I knew that the second he mentioned /usr/qt/3. ;-) [15:02] if anyone wants to submit that to SBo or slacky go right ahead as per license on the header of it [15:02] [15:02] eddief2 (n=eddie@cpe-72-229-30-71.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:02] lol [15:02] Oldway_Ogiefay: you mean like: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/libraries/reportlab/ ;) [15:03] Action: Oldway_Ogiefay is too old to maintain [15:03] Necos, BP{k} http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/virtualbox-ose/ i download VirtualBox-2.0.6-OSE.tar.bz2 [15:03] word345: http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=virtualbox . Can I suggest you use that. It'll safe you a lot of problems. (http://slackbuilds.org/howto/) [15:03] eddief2 (n=eddie@cpe-72-229-30-71.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [15:03] kama (n=kama@host35-112-dynamic.8-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:03] Action: Necos prods Oldway_Ogiefay with a cattle prod [15:04] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@unaffiliated/lovezinho expired. [15:04] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@unaffiliated/lovezinho' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [15:04] brb [15:04] :) [15:04] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:04] word345: yes and do pray tell .. out of morbid curiosity ... did you 1) read the little bit above it that said "Download Source" and 2) did you actually read *AND* understand http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [15:04] gOi_ (n=root@196-209-63-250-rrba-esr-3.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [15:05] shyko (n=chatzill@201.71.54.144) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:05] word345 (n=word345@ll62-69-188-251-62.ll62.iam.net.ma) left irc: "Leaving" [15:05] word345: while the slackbuild of course uses the source. just the source is not enough. you need to download the slackbuild files (as highlighted by our howto) [15:05] gOi_ (n=root@196-209-63-250-rrba-esr-3.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) left ##slackware. [15:05] le sigh [15:06] Chocotoff (n=Chocotof@195-240-212-157.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: [15:06] i have to spend today prepping a disk for LUKS [15:06] which really just means waiting for dd if=/dev/urandom to finish across a 160GB disk [15:07] oh the fun. :) [15:07] nullboy: start it and go catch some waves ;) [15:07] yep, definitely a beer day [15:07] boo no surf right now! [15:07] but i could take the kayak out [15:07] gOi_ (n=root@196-209-63-250-rrba-esr-3.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [15:08] nullboy: Maybe if you get, like, 50 monkeys tapping at your keyboard at once, it'll go faster. [15:08] why didn't i think of that [15:08] faster would be just buy a fresh drive. [15:08] i need more server monkeys [15:09] =P [15:09] jean-1uc (n=jean-1uc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:09] nullboy: speaking of beers. I got a nice Hoegaarden and a Leffe in the fridge :D [15:10] Hoegaarden is nice [15:11] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:12] sorry work called... yeah I've closed the browser and loading it up again, doesn't change athing [15:13] nullboy: http://www.thedrinkshop.com/products/nlpdetail.php?prodid=4380 [15:14] has anyone ever used OpenCOBOL on slackware? [15:15] lowkyalur (n=low@icm4-orange.orange.sk) joined ##slackware. [15:15] I didn't get it to build the other day. [15:15] That may or may not be due to the fact that I didn't try. [15:15] i'm looking for a good replacement for Micro Focus Net Express (windows) [15:15] jkwood: lol [15:16] hey all trying to set up sqlgrey with postfix/mysql and I'm gettin a problem with it trying to use /dev/log ... "/dev/log is not a socket.." it doth protest.... where should I be pointing it? ... orrrr, could I do a symlink so I don't have to pull out some grizzly perl guts? [15:16] Hmm... Actually, I guess it was tinycobol I tried. [15:16] jkwood: thanks for the help, there. ;) [15:16] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC0275E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:16] is there somewhere a sound player that is cli and simple with some control over the playing (like splay/play but with keys to advance/reverse/pause) ? [15:16] yeah.. i am trying to decide between tiny and opencobol.. opencobol looks nicer to me [15:17] hashed_: I really was trying to get a COBOL environment going on Linux. [15:17] lowkyalur: Tried mpg321? [15:17] what do i use to read PDF's? [15:17] I ended up putting Net Express on a VM instead, for the sake of "convenience". [15:17] lowkyalur: mplayer works nicely, too. [15:17] Nick change: gOi_ -> Euler- [15:17] gOi_: xpdf, kpdf. [15:17] jkwood: i'm tempted to use wine with net express, but somehow i doubt it will work :) [15:18] thanks [15:18] Certainly. [15:18] Didn't try that. [15:18] kpdf is prettier. [15:18] Okular is even prettier. [15:18] i use evince to view pdfs [15:18] okular++ [15:19] hashed_, why don't you use what's it's name... [15:19] Mono [15:19] Gargantua: not sure what you mean [15:19] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) left irc: "Saliendo" [15:19] Mono... it's a .NET enviro [15:20] muraii: i have mocp and i like it alot. however it's just to complex... i would like to use the candidate to be integrated into vifm ... just listen to the file (there splay would do) ...however with some playback control [15:21] Gargantua: i'm not very familiar with Mono. are you saying to run net express within Mono? [15:21] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [15:21] hashed_, no, it's a subsitute to .NET [15:21] or C# I think [15:21] one of the two [15:21] Gargantua: You can't do COBOL in Mono. [15:21] lowkyalur: look into mpd (musicpd.org) [15:21] can you with Visual C#? [15:22] No, you can't. [15:22] Net Express is a COBOL IDE. [15:22] "no, it's a subsitute to .NET" <-- :D [15:22] Well that's what he was asking, I think. [15:22] wait [15:22] lots of frontends available for the daemon player backend, including cli and console variants [15:22] .NET express right? [15:22] oh jeez, who got jkwood started on cobol :> [15:22] lowkyalur: Haven't heard of vifm, but it sounds like an audio script/plugin for vi. [15:22] NO. [15:22] or something else called Net Express? [15:22] Micro Focus Net Express. [15:22] lol [15:22] Not .Net Express. [15:22] oh lol [15:22] my bad [15:22] Have googled. vifm sounds cool. [15:22] Gargantua: no, net express is a cobol compiler. http://www.microfocus.com/products/netexpress/ [15:23] Action: muraii digs ncurses. [15:23] ok [15:23] Gargantua: it's ok, thanks for trying though. [15:23] lol my bad [15:23] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:23] hashed_: Net Express does have to sit on top of Visual Studio, though. The full edition, not the for-free stuff. [15:24] muraii: oh, vifm is vi file manager:) [15:24] jkwood: in that case, it looks like i'll have to bite the bullet and use a VM [15:25] Ja. Sounds pretty cool. How different is it, functionally, from just using cd? [15:25] unless openCobol is worth using. going to try it out soon [15:25] hackedhead: now that's pretty much like mocp ... mebbe i should go and implement the key stuff to an existing commandline client [15:25] lowkyalur: what key stuff? [15:26] muraii: it's a bit like midnight commander, two panes. and you can easily define actions to fire for different file types [15:27] hackedhead: i am looking for a simple cli player that sports some playback control (more than splay) [15:27] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-0-176.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:27] cli meaning.. fire single commands at the daemon? [15:27] lowkyalur: sox [15:27] look at the mpc client for mpd [15:27] hackedhead: cli meaning... do you know "play" from sox? [15:28] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@h90-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) left irc: "User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby" [15:28] .. i don't =\ [15:28] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@h90-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:28] Nick change: hd -> HellDragon [15:28] mpc will let you control almost any aspect of mpd's playback though [15:29] seek, track changes, volume, etc [15:29] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: "Leaving." [15:29] hackedhead: i understand... it's just that i have to run it for each change. having a small client just sending the commands on keypress would be nice [15:29] look at ncmpc [15:29] it's the same basic idea as mocp [15:30] or ncmpc++ :) [15:30] mhmm [15:30] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.193.79) joined ##slackware. [15:30] lowkyalur: there are many clients for mpd though, you may find something that fits your wants [15:30] hackedhead: i'll give it a "look" [15:30] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: "Leaving" [15:31] thanks for your input. [15:34] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-340081.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:34] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [15:34] argh... [15:34] i really hate ISIS >.> [15:34] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC0275E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:34] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-340081.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:35] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03C46.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:35] Action: theblackbox wonders how/why he didn't have syslogd [15:35] >.> [15:36] <.< [15:36] ^_^ [15:36] it's part of the rc scripts to start... so you missed installing it? >.> [15:36] V.V would be the next in sequence? [15:37] ;-; [15:37] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) joined ##slackware. [15:38] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [15:39] Cryp71c (i=rpb2i@linux04.cs.mtsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:39] jkwood: fyi, openCobol built just fine. [15:39] Necos, on a VPS so wasn't part of the install spec I guess... was pretty barebones (~200meg) [15:39] didn't even have to track down and dependencies [15:39] hashed_: Awesome. [15:39] and=any [15:40] doesnt look like it has a IDE though.. just compiler [15:40] unless i havent found it yet [15:40] 200 megs can still have space for syslogd... VPS... virtual private server? [15:41] yeah [15:41] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [15:41] theblackbox: Wait... your Linode didn't have syslogd? [15:41] That doesn't sound right... [15:41] Anyone know how to write a bash script to invoke "alt key" and the "f1" key? [15:41] I thought so too [15:42] so that's "alt+f1" [15:42] ls /var/log/packages/sysklog* ? [15:43] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-59-42.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [15:44] jkwood, I just had to do the slackpkg install ;) [15:44] brb [15:44] Oldway_Ogiefay (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [15:44] How would I go about installing gnome from terminal? [15:44] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:44] greets Old_Fogie [15:44] slava_ (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) joined ##slackware. [15:44] gnome slackbuild has a good way, but i'm not going to tell you how [15:44] hide ho [15:45] Action: theblackbox quickly hides his Ho's ..... he's on to us! [15:45] /s/hideeho [15:45] ahhh [15:45] thrice`: me? [15:45] the alt+f1 ? [15:45] slava_ (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) left ##slackware. [15:45] Step 1: install KDE. Step 2: decide you're better off as you are. [15:45] hehe [15:46] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:46] 3 confirm there's too much hd space taken, and no freedom to only install a few bin's :D [15:46] Action: Old_Fogie hides [15:46] I hated gnome right from day one in linux [15:46] debian 2.3 methinks [15:46] Old_Fogie: yeah, HD space is in so much short supply. [15:46] theblackbox, I hated Gnome too. [15:47] Anything better than OpenBox with a nicely edited rc.xml? [15:47] Really? I much rather prefer Gnome over KDE [15:47] fred: you know the saying, if you don't need it, you dont need it [15:47] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:47] 2.3!? maybe not.... think I've still got the discs somewhere .... bah! 3.0 Woody.... [15:47] now if i could get japanese input working in finch, i'd be a happy camper [15:47] Action: theblackbox giggles ... woody [15:48] muraii: what was that about openbox? [15:49] fred, I'm hoping to try kde4 on the netbook tho, I've read that's supposed to scale well to the screen real estate, them netbooks are tuff on some things [15:49] Necos: Rather than the false dichotomy of Gnome vs. KDE, there's OpenBox and some crafty edits of your rc.xml. [15:49] Action: Necos uses OpenBox [15:49] Openbox rather lol [15:49] dieter__ (n=dieter@92.117.76.78) joined ##slackware. [15:50] [tessai@tessai:~ #]> openbox --version [15:50] Openbox 3.4.7.2 [15:50] Ah, Openbox. Okay. [15:50] Action: theblackbox always wanted to get into using BlackBox.... but got confused somewhere along the way [15:50] openbox aint bad, but really at the end of the day, you still need apps, so their usuall kde, gnome based (or at least I do) so the libs come up anyhow, xfce seems right for me there then. [15:50] I'm using the same version. [15:51] yeah, but libs != DE [15:51] "kpdftool" <-- one of my favorite new apps kde based. [15:51] Exactly. [15:51] Action: muraii uses KDE apps all the time. [15:51] both gnome and kde are absolute crap IMO [15:52] That sounds a bit overly harsh [15:52] libs may not equal a full DE, but from a ram and cpu use, it's almost equal. kde 3.5.10 without the kalarm is only 98 mb ram here, openbox is 92 clean. not much diff there. [15:52] Old_Fogie: you've confirmed gnome packages are smaller than kde4 (minus all international stuff) ? [15:52] oh openbox with pypanel [15:53] thrice`: I dont consider kde4 when I talk kde v gnome for 3 reasons, 1. I dont run it enuff to really have a say on it 2. it's beta ware 3. haven't built it yet to see what's really needed/not yet. [15:53] openbox with lxpanel is about the same, since pypanel is a bit unstable [15:54] Old_Fogie: beta ware? :( try 4.2 before you say that ;) [15:55] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [15:55] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [15:55] greetings [15:56] No longer beta. Definitely SP 2. [15:56] not that it matters much, i'll take it seroiusly when it hits slacks mainline [15:56] Oh I'm not saying betaware as in, a 'negative conotation' but it's not "walk into bosses office on Monday morning and put your career on line to push/deploy out to the masses" quality. It's expected for things to change, hiccup, etc and I dont think it's fair for people to compare kde4 to gnome (or others yet) since it's still at this level (and moving fast). I think the kde devs have caught too much crap like that. (now kd [15:56] dieter__ (n=dieter@92.117.76.78) left irc: "leaving" [15:57] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Client Quit [15:57] dimmerbold (i=dimbold@port.23.telnetd.org) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:58] heys [15:58] dimmerbold (i=dimbold@port.23.telnetd.org) joined ##slackware. [15:58] In fact, I see people rag on gnome for not updateing, but I got a list of 6 CVE's here on 3.5.10 that aren't fixed. kde 3.5.10 dont build on latest stable ruby. kde 3.5.10 doesnt build with kernel headers in slack. for that, sure I can rag on them. [15:58] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host192-238-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:59] why? 3.5 is dead [15:59] lol [15:59] that's like complaining that gnome 1.x no longer buidls [15:59] Old_Fogie: * > gnome > kde [15:59] "dead" I didn't get the memo? it's unmaintained :D I thought it was the stable branch :D [16:00] according to kde, 4.2 is the latest stable [16:00] thrice`: well I would think until kde 4.2 is out, they should maintain 3.5.X series no? [16:00] Old_Fogie: It is out. [16:00] It has been since the 27th. [16:00] 4.2 has been out for a while [16:00] Necos: lxpanel? I'm using a combination of tint and xfce4-panel (just for the volume controller, mainly). I looked at lxpanel the other day, but ran out of time to tinker. [16:00] Old_Fogie: I think they do, but at a really slow pace. Maybe one update per year [16:01] lowkyalur (n=low@icm4-orange.orange.sk) left irc: "listening to music" [16:01] well, I mean... them saying "kde 3.X is no longer supported, only use 4.X branch from here on out, everyone yank 3.5 off their pc's...every invoke money to change them out " [16:01] TimothyPollard (n=TimothyP@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] lol [16:01] i'm just playing devil's adv. :) [16:01] It's true tho, I mean.. you can't just drop a branch, while you have deployments,... that's (in a Princess Bride voice) in-conc-eeevable [16:01] lxpanel is nice [16:02] thrice`: yea I know :D [16:02] You can drop a branch when a new stable one is out o.O [16:02] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:02] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@h90-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:02] straterra: man I hope not, that'd really be egg on FOSS face there I think [16:02] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@h90-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) joined ##slackware. [16:02] i like the little network icon thingy, and the clock with full display... i don't use much else from the panel lol [16:02] what does FOSS have to do with anything? [16:02] 3.5.10 was release *after* kde4, iirc :) they do support it, just slower [16:03] I thought they'd said they would support KDE 3.5.x for a good while to come [16:03] Just, most developer hours go to the shinier version ;) [16:03] exactly [16:03] (as it should, imo) [16:04] straterra: it'd be the first thing I'd think of, if my IT guy came to me and said "hey, you know all them pc's...well the desktop's are supported no more..and we gotta put ot this pt release that's only a year and half old on allthem pc's" it'd make the floss dev's look like they dont support like the binary world (windows) with a 10 year life ..just slap it in and carry on your business. [16:04] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@93.86.41.139) joined ##slackware. [16:04] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@93.86.41.139) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:04] Old_Fogie: does KDE not come with the same boilerplate "no warranty no liability" clause as every other FOSS project? [16:04] lol [16:05] It's the KDE dev's project..they are free to support it for as long as they want. Also, who *cares* if you run a version that isnt updated any more? [16:05] that's the problem tho [16:05] It's a DE, not a CMS or ERP system or something [16:05] It'll continue to work [16:05] boilerplate like that doesn't mean anything to the beancounters [16:05] boilerplate like that, heck actions like that, make you get nowhere real fast [16:05] Also, I'm sure you don't get KDE straight from the KDE devs..thats why your distro has support [16:05] they want whatever works without extra support costs [16:06] or, "we've spent most of our man hours making 4.2 rock solid, and advise everyone that it's time to upgrade from 3.5" [16:06] oh how i hate kernel compilation [16:06] thrice`: a statement like that would be best than, well, leaving 3.5 to rot and then leave the distro's to figure out how to backport (or invent) their own sec fixes [16:07] 4.2 looks like it will enter -current anyway sooner than later [16:07] I mean look at gdk-pixbuf .. not the one in gtk+2...the separate lib gdk-pixbuf. You'll see all home-made fixes by the different distro's to fix CVE's and *not* one of Fedora, debian, or suse are carrying the same CVE fixes. that's what I mean. [16:08] or they could have just left a part of the team to maintain the old version until the new version is ready [16:08] Nick change: muraii -> muraii[]work [16:08] 4.x looks like vista and kde had sex and gave birth to a prom night dumpster baby [16:09] Cann0n: which specifically? [16:09] thrice`: the one i saw on youtube last night. (kde 4.2 iirc) [16:09] ok, just making sure it was a $bandwagon claim [16:10] lol [16:10] as technology advances, the ability for fancier options and prettier interfaces just seems to become a 'need' by many [16:10] lol [16:10] After you've used 'make install' is there any clean/neat way to undo the make? [16:10] Action: Cann0n gets banned. :( [16:11] lol [16:11] Cryp71c: did you try SlackBuilds.org ? [16:11] Cann0n: not yet, one sec. [16:11] Cryp71c: sometimes "make uninstall" from that source. otherwise, this is the reason packages are made :) [16:12] Flashy stuff gets interest, as long as that's true people will provide it. But with things like compositing window managers came some new bits and pieces that really do aid usability. [16:12] or if you put a quarter under your pillow, the PackageFairy might come by and sprinkle her pixy dust on your forehead [16:12] i quit make installing last year... when i went from slack 9.2 to 12.1 [16:12] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03C46.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Connection timed out [16:12] It's not just a mad dash for "pretty" [16:12] AlexElliott: agreed, and with vista we see what happens when you go overboard with it,and not add features that demand an upgrade [16:13] AlexElliott: depends. i prefer less options... like fluxbox. i couldnt imagine using kde or gnome. [16:13] lol [16:13] Old_Fogie: lol bingo [16:13] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-130-122-188.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:13] lol [16:13] yeah, that was omegasuperhappyfail for MS [16:14] Yeah, at the end of the day, people want to do their $STUFF ; after they play with gloss a few times, change some wallpapers, its' "back to work!" [16:14] that's why i like openbox so much... i spent all of 10 minutes setting up my keybindings and got to work :) [16:14] Old_Fogie: yeah. some folks just have the resources to waste [16:15] phasor (n=phazor@41.208.50.160) joined ##slackware. [16:15] Cann0n: well for me, I can afford vista if I want, a new box. But looking at the 'new' features, I didnt see anything compelling to upgrade. It's pretty as hell tho I think (fonts arent as nice as Slackware tho) [16:15] imo [16:15] High_Priest (n=Mean@cable-89-216-140-38.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:16] I use lots of features on Vista [16:16] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:16] I like their movie maker [16:16] a..lot (no joke either) [16:16] hi all [16:16] hi phasor [16:17] hi [16:17] straterra: are they alot of features that weren't in XP tho, as in new since XP? [16:17] i was chatting earlier and got disconected [16:17] just curious.. is there a way to uninstall a program after building it with "make install" ? I've spent too much time with package managers that do all the work for me.. [16:17] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@h90-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:17] A few..lots of improvements [16:17] Old_Fogie: slacks out of box fonts are nice. with some elbow grease ond an ATI radeon, i noticed a huge difference with freetype compiled with a few extra options [16:17] make uninstall [16:17] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@h90-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) joined ##slackware. [16:17] well, improvements are good (they count as new if they fix a really bad annoyance for sure) [16:17] phasor: wow, that simple eh? thanks :D [16:18] RaeGrepus (i=superGea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:18] sometimes ;-) [16:18] old_fogie, i really like kino these days... [16:18] if its included in the build [16:18] Depends what you like, Windows has sharp fonts. It's a shame you can't really customise the rendering as far as I know [16:18] Necos: I did a dvgrab, I havent finished making something yet. [16:18] hashed_: not everything supports make uninstall [16:18] is anyond using kde 4.2 here [16:18] I've beenplaying with avidemux tho [16:19] Linux lets you go all the way from sharp to fuzzy OSX-ish fonts ;) [16:19] phasor: yep [16:19] straterra: luckily, it worked for my purpose this time [16:19] ive been copying a 1.9GB file from a dvd to the hd and its taken over an hour and im a little over half way [16:19] Razec (n=razec@189.56.183.198) left irc: "Leaving" [16:19] yeah. i had issues with FF3 on radeon, fixed it with the XAA options which caused issues with my fonts missing pixels, then fixed that with freetype... i tell you what, fonts never were bi with me... now i wont use any other set up [16:20] lw0x15_ (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:20] woah [16:20] phasor: must be an old/damaged disk [16:20] Cann0n: it takes me a while to adjust if I move from slack or freebsd to windows for sure [16:20] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:20] jees i hope so cause this is not on [16:20] yeah fo-sho [16:20] Nick change: lw0x15_ -> lw0x15 [16:20] the drive is ramping up and down [16:21] brb [16:21] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:21] ROKO__ (n=root@85.217.253.135) joined ##slackware. [16:21] root@ROKO__:~# tvtime-scanner [16:21] Reading configuration from /etc/tvtime/tvtime.xml [16:21] Reading configuration from /root/.tvtime/tvtime.xml [16:21] Channel flood from ROKO__ -- kicking [16:21] Scanning using TV standard PAL. [16:21] No tuner found on input 0. If you have a tuner, please [16:21] ROKO__ kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [16:21] ROKO__ (n=root@85.217.253.135) joined ##slackware. [16:21] pls help [16:21] um.. [16:21] pls help [16:22] How about ASKING a question? [16:22] instead of just pasting stuff [16:22] lol [16:22] non i-net [16:22] what? [16:22] ZmoKus-Oposumas (n=karolis@77.90.73.237) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:22] ... tvtime error [16:22] You're going to have to speak with passable english here.. [16:22] No tuner found on input 0. If you have a tuner, please [16:22] select a different input using --input=. [16:23] hahaha [16:23] ? [16:23] tvtime --input=0 [16:23] etc [16:23] Install a TV tuner [16:23] try all the numbers [16:23] ROKO, do an /sbin/lspci -v and see if your card is even supported [16:24] toast10101:07.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d0) [16:24] Cryp71c (i=rpb2i@linux04.cs.mtsu.edu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:24] ZmoKus-Oposumas (n=karolis@77.90.73.237) joined ##slackware. [16:24] Subsystem: Philips Semiconductors KWorld V-Stream Studio TV Terminator [16:24] toast10101:07.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d0) [16:24] ... [16:25] do you have V4L setup? [16:25] ... [16:25] or whatever it's called for now? [16:25] have you enabled this tuner in the kernel ? or is it enabled by default / [16:25] how config v4l [16:25] this tunner is default .. [16:25] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [16:25] enabled by default [16:25] ROKO__: http://tinyurl.com/chazbx [16:26] i don`t have internet [16:26] um..yes you do [16:26] lol [16:26] We aren't all on your LAN [16:26] ... lol [16:27] Unless Freenode is in your basement..which given the reliability, I would believe [16:27] phasor (n=phazor@41.208.50.160) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:27] ROKO__: we aren't going to help you unless you help yourself [16:27] stollen [16:27] stollen? [16:27] stollen host ... in my lan network [16:28] Ok..you are on the internet now..I don't know if you know that or not [16:28] So..you CAN get to google and documentation [16:28] phasor (n=phazor@41.208.50.160) joined ##slackware. [16:29] Nick change: phasor -> phasor1 [16:29] ROKO__ (n=root@85.217.253.135) left irc: "Killed (rox (Requested by panasync))" [16:29] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [16:29] o.O [16:29] holdmypocket (n=choward@vpn.cusonet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:30] sigh... suspend just doesnt wanna work for me [16:30] wth [16:30] Killed .. wasn't a k-line [16:30] when trying to do the "Sign the CSR with out CA CRT" step from the slackwiki, i am getting an error about how the /etc/ssl/ca.pem file doesn't exist. I've ran all the steps before, and am unsure how to create it or if i just need to comment that specific line out of the openssl.cnf. [16:31] openssl -x509... did you run that? [16:31] try one more time and ima forget suspend mode exsists [16:31] nfoss (n=codehabi@pool-71-112-166-132.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:32] Cann0n, does the webcam work i have 3 different kinds here that i still cant get to work [16:32] Necos: the "create the CA CRT with the CA RSA key" step? thats the only one with -x509 option, and yes i did run it. I can go through it again though. [16:33] http://slackwiki.org/ssl [16:33] phasor1: webcams + linux seem to get along like cats and dogs [16:33] lol yup im beginning to doubt the 2.6.28 kernel [16:34] you need to otput 2 files though.../ [16:34] have to wait for the next release [16:34] Necos: Ah, that could be the problem. would i just need to add on -out ca.pem? [16:35] yeah [16:36] dejai_ (n=dejai@230.15.233.220.exetel.com.au) left irc: No route to host [16:37] smica (n=smica@91.146.170.103) left irc: [16:38] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:40] Necos: Okay, now trying to start apache i get an error how ca.crl doesn't exist (it does) or is empty (which it is). There are instructions in the wiki under "Client Revokation" about actually creating a ca.crl but it sounds like you only do that if it was compromised. Is this true? If so, what do i do about the apache error, if you know. [16:42] no, gimme a sec... let me double check my server [16:42] Necos: Thank you. [16:42] arny (n=arny@79.119.151.221) joined ##slackware. [16:43] hola :) [16:43] s/If so/If not [16:43] ca.pem is normally just the key and the cert catted together iirc [16:44] phasor1 (n=phazor@41.208.50.160) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:45] clavius (n=clavius@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: "client exploded" [16:45] phasor1 (n=phazor1@41.208.50.160) joined ##slackware. [16:49] this is the guide that i used IIRC http://www.akadia.com/services/ssh_test_certificate.html [16:49] gar0t0 (n=Tiago@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [16:52] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@h90-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) left irc: "User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby" [16:52] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) joined ##slackware. [16:52] trying to intall virtualbox and go the error "iasl (variable IASL) not found!" ... i'm a little lost :( [16:53] hashed_: get acpica [16:54] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:54] josemanuel (n=josemanu@38.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [16:55] pprkut: ok, i'll try that. i saw it on slackbuilds.org [16:55] what exactly is acpica for? [16:55] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [16:55] something for vbox bios [16:56] you only need it on build time though [16:56] clavius (n=clavius@unaffiliated/clavius) joined ##slackware. [16:58] what wm is being used the most ( opinions ) [16:58] definitely none [16:58] i think for the kde 4.2 you really need an up to date speced machine [16:59] you need more than 128 MB of ram, that's for sure [16:59] yup [17:00] Euler- (n=root@196-209-63-250-rrba-esr-3.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:00] i really like xfce [17:00] yup i just loaded that up now and its dam fast [17:00] yeah, and beautiful too :D [17:00] 4.2 was getting slow but i like the bells and whistles [17:01] BrunoXLambert (n=BxL@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca) left irc: "Quitte" [17:01] Buggaboo (n=bug@535398F0.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:01] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@h90-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:01] kde just makes me want to break something [17:01] lol [17:01] maybe it's just the way i use it, but i always have problems [17:01] arny (n=arny@79.119.151.221) left irc: "Leaving" [17:04] anybody have swing working with netbean in slackware? [17:04] deLusion_ (n=deLusion@pool-173-65-163-125.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:07] anyone managed to get a successful handbrake build on slack? [17:08] phasor1: it runs fine on an eee. [17:09] smeding (i=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:09] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:09] you either need a really fast machine with a modern nvidia graphics card and the latest drivers, or anything with intel graphics :p [17:09] deLusion_ (n=deLusion@pool-173-65-163-125.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[17:17] phasor1: i read somewhere about compiz with xfce.. but didn't look to far into it [17:17] less /var/adm/packages/virtualbox* [17:17] first leter and tab key twice [17:17] hashed_: I mean, more specifically ;) [17:17] hashed_, mmm [17:18] or maybe, grep bin /var/adm/packages/virtualbox* [17:18] pprkut: i just installed virtualbox from slackbuilds.org , and the script ran fine, but i have no menu entries for it and cannot find the command to run it with [17:18] updatedb [17:18] n350k (n=n350k@189.174.2.89) joined ##slackware. [17:18] locate virtualbox [17:18] hashed_: the menu entry should be in system, the command is VirtualBox. And you have installed the package, right? [17:19] else the more complex find command [17:19] capitol V capitol B [17:19] V tab tab [17:19] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:19] pprkut: yes, i've installed the package but there is no menu entry [17:20] and the command virtualbox is not found [17:20] free335 (n=free345@ll62-73-188-251-62.ll62.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [17:20] updatemenue [17:20] VirtualBox [17:20] pi31415: thanks [17:20] but when i do a slocate it shows hundreds of files [17:20] "Sun xVM VirtualBox" is the menu entry [17:21] try to run it from terminal by typing VirtualBox [17:21] mrselfpwn: tried that. nothing [17:21] okay [17:22] how to install vbox-kernel-module-src-2.0.6.tar.gz ; it is no readme in the folder vbox-kernel-module-src-2.0.6 :( [17:22] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]" [17:22] did you install the tgz file that was created in the /tmp directory ? [17:22] hashed_: what does "file /usr/bin/VirtualBox" give you? [17:22] phasor1: yes [17:23] mmm [17:23] free335: by running the SlackBuild.... [17:24] pprkut: nothing, but i did find /usr/bin/VirtualBox3 !! [17:24] hmm [17:24] try that [17:24] "/usr/bin/VirtualBox3: broken symbolic link to '/usr/lib/virtualbox/VBox'" [17:25] try typing VirtualBox3 in the terminal [17:25] command not found [17:25] zahlen (n=euler@196-209-63-250-rrba-esr-3.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [17:25] broken means it won't work :/ [17:25] tried typing the full /usr/bin/VirtualBox3 also.. nothing [17:25] hashed_: you have qt4 installed? [17:26] pprkut: i think so.. [17:26] i did a full install of slackware, so i should have it [17:27] no. [17:27] pprkut: that's strange. why would the broken link happen i wonder? should i try removing the pkg and try again? [17:27] qt4 is not installed with Slackware by default [17:27] you need to either replace kde3 and qt3 with qt4 (+ optionally kde4) from slackware-current's testing/, or install qt4 from slackbuilds.org [17:28] free335 (n=free345@ll62-73-188-251-62.ll62.iam.net.ma) left irc: "Leaving" [17:28] hashed_: no qt4 means no VirtualBox binary, which is still fine. Just good to know ;) [17:28] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@83.103.39.119) left irc: "Leaving" [17:28] hahaha [17:29] hashed_: VirtualBox3 *should* still work [17:29] hmm.. [17:29] lannders (n=lannders@107-149.126-70.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:29] i wonder when they'll have gtk 3 or whatnot [17:29] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.48.119) joined ##slackware. [17:29] hashed_: I think I know.... you are part of vboxusers group? [17:29] 2.x is gettin old [17:30] pprkut: AH!!! i forgot to do that! haha [17:30] Action: hashed_ slaps forehead [17:30] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [17:31] greetings [17:31] you all suck.. er.. i mean... hi guys [17:31] pprkut: and VirtualBox3 now works :D [17:32] zomglolxorz... i just heard an ubuntu guy claim that "if you take an ubuntu CD and put it upside down in a floppy drive it will still install" :P [17:32] there you go :) [17:32] talk about marketing hype :P [17:32] ;-) [17:32] nachox: i love you too! [17:32] this channel is so helpful. [17:32] it installs win 9 [17:33] i guess i'll have to manually create the menu entry for vbox [17:34] kannan (n=kannan@121.246.242.95) left irc: [17:34] zahlen (n=euler@196-209-63-250-rrba-esr-3.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:35] 2 hours to copy 2G jees this disk is definately finding the bin [17:35] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [17:37] still having problems with virtualbox. i don't seem to have the kernel module "vboxdrv" anywhere ( checked in /etc/rc.d/ and in /etc.init.d/ ) [17:37] hashed_: /etc/rc.d/rc.vboxdrv start [17:37] You'll also want /etc/rc.d/rc.vboxnet start. [17:37] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [17:37] jkwood: it's not there. [17:37] finished wooot !! [17:38] Action: jkwood suggests reading the README that came with the slackbuild [17:38] ZmoKus-Oposumas (n=karolis@77.90.73.237) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:38] phasor1: did you use the slackbuild? [17:38] jkwood: i read it. that's what made me go looking for rc.vboxdrv in the first place. [17:38] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:38] thrice`, slackbuild ? [17:38] free335 (n=free345@ll62-79-188-251-62.ll62.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [17:38] oops, hashed_ * [17:38] i wonder if i need to install the virtualbox-kernal slackbuild from slackbuilds.org? [17:39] np [17:39] i thought you just said you read the README ? [17:39] virtualbox3 > The character device /dev/vboxdrv does not exist. Please install the virtualbox-modules package for your kernel. [17:39] does virtualbox use virtual machines [17:39] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:39] if so those options must be compiled in to the kernel [17:39] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:40] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:40] phasor1: You're thinking virtualization flags. [17:40] what's the best media to burn the slackware dvd to? (as in various dvd varieties, brands, and why) [17:40] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) joined ##slackware. [17:40] And they ARE compiled into the kernel. [17:40] Action: InspectorCluseau all I did was run the bin file for vbox ... worked fine here [17:40] hehe.. ok. i guess i should read more carefully. [17:40] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:40] You just have to have the support in your processor. [17:40] night [17:40] mm a fast dvd re writable [17:41] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:41] And Virtualbox doesn't need them. It'll run faster with them, but it doesn't need them. [17:41] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:41] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:42] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:42] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:42] xsamurai (n=Mr_Robot@125.161.132.119) left ##slackware. [17:42] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:42] k_wolf (n=wolf@201008248168.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:42] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:43] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:43] phasor1 (n=phazor1@41.208.50.160) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:43] hey gu ys... where on earth do the xfce theme files have to be put so that i can find them from the window manager-settings? [17:43] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:43] h8R (n=ari_pak@95-42-98-116.btc-net.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:43] read all the crap people are writting on their themes but nothing that could actually help [17:44] phasor (n=phazor@41.208.50.160) joined ##slackware. [17:44] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:44] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:44] gnubien (n=e@230.255.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:44] anybody around? [17:45] Yes [17:45] greetings straterra ;) [17:45] hi [17:45] howdy [17:45] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:46] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:46] any idea...where could i put the bz2 or the files of a theme so that i can use them in xfce? in slackware? [17:46] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:46] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:46] virtualbox3 > The character device /dev/vboxdrv does not exist. Please install the virtualbox-modules package for your kernel. [17:46] kernel 2.6.27.7-smp [17:47] wtf free335 ? [17:47] help .? [17:47] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:47] is there a package on slackbuilds called virtualbox-modules? or something similar? [17:47] free335: You need to build the virtualbox-kernel package. [17:47] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:47] http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=virtualbox&sv= <--- do you have all 4 pacakgesa? [17:47] *packages [17:48] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:48] jkwood, how to build it [17:48] ok.. i still have no clue why i don't have /etc/rc.d/rc.vboxdrv . i read the README (again) and i know i have to start it, but can't start it if it doesn't exist [17:48] um [17:48] I needed to install 2 packages for vbox [17:48] hashed_ : just create it [17:48] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:48] wallace[r] (n=wallace@189.12.252.103) joined ##slackware. [17:49] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:49] Necos: He only needs the two. [17:49] hashed_ : i needed the kernel package and the 'ose' package [17:49] i use vmware, so i don't know >.> [17:49] Necos, how to build vbox kernel module [17:49] free335: http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/12.2/system/virtualbox-kernel.tar.gz [17:49] appzer0: what do i put in it when i create it though? i installed both of those packages, too. [17:49] Oakenfold (n=eduardo@190.42.70.199) joined ##slackware. [17:50] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:50] free335, they're talking about the same thing [17:50] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [17:50] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:50] ZmoKus-Oposumas (n=karolis@77.90.73.237) joined ##slackware. [17:50] Download that, untar, cd virtualbox-kernel, source virtualbox-kernel.info && wget $DOWNLOAD, ./virtualbox-kernel.SlackBuild [17:51] hashed_ : oh sorry, you should have a /etc/rc.d/rc.vboxdrv AND rc.vboxnet [17:51] Necos, konsole > cd ... vbox-kernel-module-src-2.0.6 > cd vboxdrv [17:51] Necos, and ? [17:52] appzer0: sorry. i didn't install the actual pkg yet. my brain is rotting away now i believe.. [17:52] the kernel pkg that is [17:52] hashed_ : oh ok [17:52] but i just did intall it now, and still don't have it [17:53] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:53] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:53] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [17:53] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:54] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:54] jkwood, root@... /vboxdrv# what next ? [17:54] free335: You're not listening. [17:54] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:55] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:55] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:57] jkwood, Download that, untar, cd virtualbox-kernel OK and ? [17:57] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [17:57] hmmmm, i found a pretty large directory called /usr/src/vboxdrv-2.0.6/ [17:57] macavity, nooooooooo, tha cake can't be a lie ! ='( [17:57] free335: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10132 [17:58] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) left irc: "leaving" [17:58] what does this line do? source virtualbox-kernel.info && wget $DOWNLOAD [17:59] asm compiler ? [17:59] some one name? [17:59] hashed_: It pulls variables from virtualbox-kernel.info. [17:59] hashed_: download $DOWNLOAD [17:59] That in particular downloads the source tarball. [17:59] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:00] points go to pprkut for the bonusround. [18:00] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.2) left irc: [18:00] hmm.. why not just wget it once though? [18:00] hashed_: whet *what* [18:00] hd (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [18:00] s/whet/wget/ [18:00] hashed_: The original wget is for the SlackBuild tarball. [18:00] nevermind.. i see the shortcut now. cool :) [18:00] hashed_: consider the fact that if you don't source the info file, $DOWNLOAD will be null. [18:01] i've been finding the url and pasting it in the whole time [18:01] hashed_: the info file is setup in this way so it makes sourcing pretty easy :) [18:01] very cool [18:03] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:03] jkwood, Cannot install /tmp/virtualbox-kernel-*: package does not end in .tgz [18:03] Nick change: Dinde -> Kayser- [18:04] Nick change: Kayser- -> Dinde [18:04] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:04] Camarade_Tux: it was always a lie!... dont take the blue pill! [18:04] free335: Aha. Hmm... installpkg /tmp/virtualbox-kernel-*.tgz ? [18:05] Camarade_Tux: set you mind free and spread the word: THE CAKE IS A LIE!!!11!!1! [18:05] ok. i do have /etc/rc.d/rc.vboxdrv now, but i cannot start it. (Permission denied) [18:05] jkwood, Cannot install /tmp/virtualbox-kernel-*: package does not end in .tgz [18:05] and i do belong to user group vboxusers [18:05] I want to believe in the cake ! [18:05] hashed_: chmod +x [18:06] Camarade_Tux: you also want to belive that microsoft loves you? [18:06] jkwood, Cannot install /tmp/virtualbox-kernel-*.tgz : package does not end in .tgz [18:06] pprkut: oh, i guess being executable would help :P [18:06] macavity, hmmm... but cake tastes great :p [18:06] gm152 (n=gm@d121-132-40.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:07] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "leaving" [18:07] cake in genereal yes.. but *the* cake is still a lie [18:07] cake? WANT. [18:07] jkwood, ls > COPYING vbox-kernel-module-src-2.0.6.tar.bz2 COPYING.CDDL virtualbox-kernel-mksrctarbll.sh README virtualbox-kernel.SlackBuild doinst.sh virtualbox-kernel.info slack-desc [18:07] StevenR: the cake is a lie! [18:08] macavity: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111oneoneoneeleventy. [18:08] Action: StevenR starts to cry [18:08] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.193.79) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [18:08] free335: Alright. Just type installpkg /tmp/virtualbox-kernel and press tab until you get a package name. [18:09] reef (n=reef@189.71.134.142) joined ##slackware. [18:09] sweet! Virtualbox is running with no errors now. Thanks guys. [18:09] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-76-180-122-198.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:10] jkwood, tab > nothing change [18:10] ctrl+d? [18:10] macavity: why would you lie to me about cake? How can you say such things? Don't you know how much it hurts us? [18:10] free335: Did you run the SlackBuild? [18:11] hashed_: great :) [18:11] jkwood, slackbuild ? [18:11] StevenR: http://youtube.com/watch?v=e5QveX3-1O8 <-- look exactly 3:15 into this [18:11] Action: BP{k} sighs [18:11] StevenR: then you WILL realize that THE CAKE IS A LIE! [18:11] jkwood, YES YES ! [18:12] free335: can you show us here .. how you ran the slackbuild please? [18:12] Getting a phone call from the girlfriend... be back later. [18:12] lol [18:13] macavity: I SAW CAKE. [18:13] hi macavity [18:13] macavity: you can't seem to calm down with the cake these days :-D [18:13] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:13] StevenR: did you notice what happens when the companion cube was placed on top of the cake? *it is just a hologram of a cake*!! [18:13] wallace[r] (n=wallace@189.12.252.103) left ##slackware. [18:13] jkwood, Resolving slackbuilds.org... `vbox-kernel-module-src-2.0.6.tar.bz2' saved [236348/236348] [18:14] free335: http://sweet.nodns4.us/ [18:14] agentc0reWORK (n=chatzill@heartslc.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:14] macavity: I'm just gonna go cry now. You've ruined my day. [18:14] lw0x15: the cake is a lie! accept the truth! [18:14] never evar! [18:14] StevenR: i did not say it would be easy.. i just said it would be the truth [18:15] maybe that a cake hologram still tastes great ! [18:15] gm152 (n=gm@d121-132-40.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:15] Oakenfold (n=eduardo@190.42.70.199) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:15] BP{k}, , Resolving slackbuilds.org... `vbox-kernel-module-src-2.0.6.tar.bz2' saved [236348/236348] [18:15] free335: please stop wasting our time [18:15] free335: when you were here a couple of hours ago as word345 I already explained to you what you did wrong. [18:16] if you can't be arsed to learn/read ... [18:16] caught in the act.. [18:16] Camarade_Tux: there is no cake... [18:16] BP{k}, sorry i understand just what jkwood say [18:16] =o [18:16] free335: I sincerely doubt that. [18:18] Thanks again you guys. I really appreciate your help. Bye [18:18] hashed_ (n=hashed@24.248.222.212) left ##slackware. [18:18] latarz [18:18] I'll sell my soul to get cake ! [18:18] free335: Read http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [18:19] BP{k}, ok [18:21] >_< [18:21] why is the youtubez so sloow today :-/ [18:22] cause i has the cake [18:23] i haz finally gotten ze youtubez working without propietary poison warez, so i can watch the google tech talk series of goodness and awesomeness in the Free Software world! [18:23] hour long shows by the people in the trenches doing the codez [18:24] Action: macavity wishes for a talk about Galluim3D by Zack Rusin [18:24] StevenR: Cake, like, the Cake, what with the "I Will Survive" and "Rock 'n' Roll Lifestyle" Cake? [18:24] Nick change: muraii[]work -> muraii [18:24] Portmapper (n=Port@78.93.156.135) left irc: [18:25] huh? [18:25] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.16) joined ##slackware. [18:25] You saw Cake. Dinna know if that was the band, or something more non-sequiturial. [18:27] macavity: lol [18:27] fAu (n=fAu@81-174-13-169.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [18:28] BP{k}, ok how to build vbox-kernel-module -src-2.0.6.tar.bz2 ; installpkg don't work [18:28] >_< [18:28] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [18:29] it is a source archive... not a pkg [18:29] What the $OPERATIVECURSEWORD? [18:29] giuppy (n=giuppy@host189-162-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: SendQ exceeded [18:29] free335: http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [18:29] free335: ubuntu.org [18:29] macavity: Do you still have cake ? [18:30] macavity: +) [18:30] Asmadeus: *sigh*... the cake is a lie! [18:30] Awww. *stares at the empty plate* [18:30] "there is no point crying over every mistake, you just keep on trying til you run out of cake" [18:31] gm152 (n=glen@d121-132-40.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:31] macavity, we want cake ! [18:32] then fight Aperture Science and bake your own! [18:32] Hi all. I've taken to punching the dictionary of cards necessary to print "This is the house that Sisyphus built." But I can't get the program to run. I've flipped all switches in the seventh bit, but I can't get my games to install. Where is the .exe? [18:33] macavity: eh? you got youtube to work with 100% free/open source stuff? [18:33] muraii: over there ---> [18:33] BP{k}: D'oh! Yoiu [18:33] Urchlay: gnash [18:33] You're right! [18:33] macavity: oh. Last time I tried that, miserable failure. Must be a new release out by now... [18:33] BP{k}: But checkinstall doesn't create the docfiles correctly! [18:34] macavity: the docs to gnash, IIRC, imply that it's only meant for video playing... am I just misreading that? [18:35] Urchlay: that is correct [18:35] Urchlay: but that is all that i need for youtube :P [18:35] Urchlay: it does not even come close to being a real flash replacement [18:35] macavity: blah. I want homestarrunner.com to work, which isn't really video [18:35] Urchlay: you will want to removepkg it when you intend to go to other websites.. as it crashes both konqueror and ff [18:36] macavity: sute [18:36] er, cute [18:36] how is checkinstall these days? I gave up on it years ago when it would install the files and make an empty package to go along with it. [18:36] macavity, I can't play portal :p [18:36] actually last time I was messing with gnash, was trying to get a flash game called "crazy chess" to work [18:38] muraii: disable "--without-docfuckup" in your global checkinstall config ;) [18:38] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:40] lol [18:40] josemanuel (n=josemanu@38.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [18:41] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [18:42] lol [18:42] stybla: you alive ? [18:43] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-76-180-122-198.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:43] necropresto (n=necropre@unaffiliated/necropresto) joined ##slackware. [18:43] http://youtube.com/watch?v=-oFxhqYn-g0&feature=channel <<-- NICE for people interested in how X works and is developed [18:44] BP{k}, sorry but : Makefile:160: *** Error: KERN_DIR does not point to a directory. Stop. [18:46] Hi, Im in a need of a graphical ftp/scp/sftp-program. What application do you recommend? [18:47] bono (i=bono@118-168-234-205.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [18:48] kjell: konqueror [18:48] kjell: i use gftp [18:48] :) [18:48] free335: install the Slackware kernel source package [18:49] macavity: wow does konqueror handle scp? Cool! [18:49] sftp:// in konqueror [18:50] xdan779 (n=daniel@s233-75-207.nap.wideopenwest.com) joined ##slackware. [18:50] Ah, does it handle keyfile aswell? [18:51] kjell: i am not 100% on the scp part [18:51] IIRC, it should [18:51] kjell: however i would expect it.. it supports all sorts of odd protocols [18:52] damn.. no it doesnt [18:53] it supports keys. [18:53] it will ask for key passphrase instead of password if you've got one [18:53] or, not ask at all if you've already got it loaded into ssh-agent [18:55] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-76-180-122-198.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:55] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.193.79) joined ##slackware. [18:57] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-64.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:58] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009107135.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "Saindo" [18:59] reef (n=reef@189.71.134.142) left irc: "Leaving" [18:59] phasor (n=phazor@41.208.50.160) left irc: "Leaving" [18:59] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-76-180-122-198.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:00] Action: lw0x15 pokes stybla [19:01] For some reason, I thought laptop audio used more than the PC speaker. [19:01] Like, you know, the stereo speakers on here. PCM controls that? [19:02] anyone have an idea what I'm doing wrong here with acpi? http://pastebin.com/m3bf895cf [19:02] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:03] chopp: chmod +x them [19:03] they are thrice` [19:03] 755 [19:04] oh, no clue then :( [19:05] well, gotta get to the dmv.... laters folks [19:05] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "Death to all fanatics!" 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[19:17] free335 (n=free345@ll62-79-188-251-62.ll62.iam.net.ma) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:18] Old_Fogie: thats what she said [19:18] spook, hahaha, yea, 5 minutes here and still clugging away [19:18] time for pkill [19:19] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [19:19] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:20] greetings [19:21] hello [19:22] Old_Fogie: why not xkill [19:22] i have a disk that contains a full configured slackware system and I also have a disk that contains a completely fresh install that uses luks on / and /boot is an unencrypted boot partition. both disks have the exact same partition layout. do you think it is sane to cp -a /configured/system/mount/point/ /luks/root/ to migrate the unecnrypted system over to the encrypted / ? [19:22] lw0x15, the gui was owned :) [19:22] i'd do that form the booted installer too [19:22] nullboy: yes, its sane [19:23] cool [19:24] bored bored bored :-( [19:25] Old_Fogie, what version of abiword are you using? [19:25] spook: Is it sane to pour batterf\y acid on my keyboard? [19:25] -f\ [19:25] installing over gigabit ethernet using a samba share is still faster than using the optical media for me [19:26] muraii: if your purpose is to make it dangerous to use that keyboard [19:26] lostnhell, 2.6.6 [19:26] for abiword, the docs, extras, and plugins [19:26] gnome is slow [19:26] Old_Fogie, I just installed 2.6.6 with the docs, extras and plugin, after saving a simple odt file it reopened promptly [19:26] nullboy: google up 10Gbit fiber PCI-E cards, now thats a home network [19:26] lol [19:27] acidchild: i wish! [19:27] like 150$ each and the patch cables 15ft are like 10$ [19:27] but 1Gb is still pretty good for me [19:27] lostnhell, ok, do you have an ODT made by openoffice, I think this file I originally made witht hat. [19:27] then google 10000Base-FX switches [19:27] Old_Fogie, I will make one with OOo and give it a shot [19:27] haha [19:27] spook: hahaha [19:28] lostnhell, ok thanks :) [19:28] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "See you later..." [19:29] Old_Fogie, it opened right up [19:29] lostnhell, ok something on my end then, thank you [19:30] Old_Fogie, it may be your source, I got my package for abiword from darkstar.ist.utl.pt [19:30] whats a pretty standard looking font? [19:31] lostnhell, I built this, but I usually look at their buildscripts as a double check. [19:32] acidchild, ms serif, courrier, time roman, arial are common. I like deja sans the best tho. [19:32] For some reason, I thought PCM = PC speaker. Not necessarily, I guess. [19:33] ice_nine (n=ice_nine@CPE000af47c0c00-CM001bd7cb8f1a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [19:33] what would ms serif under? 'ms-tiff'? [19:33] penis cutting machine [19:33] olefiver (n=opera@cm-84.211.25.70.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [19:33] muraii: PCM is master volume [19:33] Old_Fogie: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10134 [19:34] The Delay DTV Act was passed first by the Senate, now in the House, and will be signed by the President. The hard cutoff for turning off analog TV broadcasts in the U.S. has been pushed out to June 12th. [19:34] radi0head (n=freaksho@modemcable228.95-83-70.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:34] acidchild, you mean where would it be put in the hard drive dir? [19:34] is pcm specific to a single audio output group, i.e; the audio card. [19:35] acidchild, oh I see.. [19:35] Pig_Pen: just gives slack broadcast places extra time [19:35] acidchild, um, hmm, don't know, alienbob has scripts for it tho. [19:35] yeag [19:35] h [19:35] what ones of them look more standard? [19:35] the font i installed first is making really ugly RRDtool graphs [19:36] ZmoKus-Oposumas (n=karolis@77.90.73.237) joined ##slackware. [19:36] acidchild, try the dejavu-ttf [19:36] it seems i can stream audio using samba over 100mbit [19:36] i wish the FCC would allow 5 watt mobile and base CB transeivers in the UHF band like those Australian CB radios [19:36] erm, stream video [19:36] how do you go about making it use it? [19:36] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:37] spook: RDP :) [19:37] oh [19:37] acidchild, well I dont know about that application "RRDTool" ; but Slackware has the dejafonts onboard already [19:37] but standard def, not HD [19:37] havent tried HD yet. [19:37] Old_Fogie: well fontconfig has gotta have something to do with it [19:38] acidchild: /dev/mapper/raid10array-lvol0 1.5T 4.5G 1.4T 1% /array [19:38] :) [19:38] right now there is 30DB of DX/Skip on 27Mhz and i cant even talk to my friends in town, too many outlaw stations running illegal power [19:39] acidchild: theres also 500gb of free space :) [19:39] Holmes (i=Holmes@189.3.46.205) joined ##slackware. [19:39] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-340081.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:40] Holmes (i=Holmes@189.3.46.205) left irc: Client Quit [19:41] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) left ##slackware ("Quitte"). [19:42] spmd (i=N95@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [19:42] acidchild: http://spooksoftware.com/blockspeed/ check the raw blockspeed on the array [19:42] spook: https://spy.int.sevenl.net/img/tmp/rrdgraph-font-urg.jpg [19:43] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [19:43] i can't even read that font. [19:43] PaddyMac (i=1000@dialup-4.153.204.170.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [19:43] basically, 250megabyte/s write, ~350megabyte/s read [19:43] Good evening all. [19:43] olefiver (n=opera@cm-84.211.25.70.getinternet.no) left irc: [19:44] acidchild: link times out for me [19:44] no firewall :/ [19:44] oh* [19:44] v4nelle (n=van@adsl87-238.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:44] Does anyone know which CPU architecture to compile for for optimal performance on a Intel Centrino Duo processor? [19:45] thrice`: acpi lid event would not work until I "kill -SIGHUP `pidof acpid`" doh [19:45] PaddyMac: ummm check wikipedia [19:46] chopp: sorry eh... i could copy it [19:46] the fonts are just messed up fancy ones [19:46] PaddyMac: is it a mobile or desktop? [19:47] acidchild: what? [19:47] PaddyMac: nocona or core2 for gcc [19:47] also..centrino duo isnt really a processor [19:48] its more of a specification for northbridge, memory, wireless, graphics and cpu [19:48] Mobile [19:48] PaddyMac: you'll want to go with whatever best suites a core 2 duo, codename merom [19:48] but..its core 2 [19:48] http://www.london2600.org.uk/ [19:48] anyone going there? [19:48] Well, I meant which option to pick for .config for kernel compile. But you say it's also called "Merom"? [19:49] pick the core 2 then [19:49] in the kernel config [19:49] PaddyMac: merom is the codename for the insides of the cpu, pick cure 2 [19:49] centrino duo just means http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrino_Duo#Santa_Rosa_platform_.282007.29 [19:49] chopp: i ment spook [19:49] heh [19:50] acidchild: i'm also going to test the array using -p n2 and -p o2 [19:51] :> [19:51] and mkfs.ext3 takes butt ages to create inode tables for a 1.5TB partition [19:51] Hey, I'm having a problem with USB FlashDrives and such, here's a screenshot: http://i39.tinypic.com/rw0wpc.png [19:51] Solixa: having a problem, explain [19:52] Solixa: add yourself to the plugdev group, and logout / login [19:52] plugdev, thanks [19:52] gpasswd -a user plugdev right? [19:52] yep [19:52] gar0t0 (n=Tiago@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:52] and logout / login (all the way, not just Xorg) [19:53] Solixa: i future, "i cant mount usb drives as a normal user" is much more helpful way of putting it [19:53] I figured it was a usergroup thing [19:53] Thanks spook, thrice` (: [19:53] OK. Thanks. [19:53] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Client Quit [19:55] macavity, fyi : firefox clicking back now finally goes to prior page at location you were in previously (3.0.6) [19:57] olefiver (n=Ole@cm-84.211.25.70.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [20:00] Old_Fogie: huh? [20:00] what? who? [20:00] that's always worked for me [20:00] same here :\ [20:00] not for me, been one of my reasons I no longer used it [20:00] it just started working [20:01] on 3.0.6 [20:01] maybe since I use xbindkeys and xev? [20:01] I have my side mouse button, send alt left to invoke back [20:01] unless, new xbindkeys fixed it, [20:02] but, I always went back, just ... not back && down [20:03] ZmoKus-Oposumas (n=karolis@77.90.73.237) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:03] Old_Fogie: i know.. i told you about this about a week ago :P [20:03] macavity, well you shouldve told me twice :) [20:03] Old_Fogie: its been doing this right since 3.0.4 [20:03] at least for the sites that i visit [20:03] http://www.yangsky.com/researches/physicallinguistics/PLUnderstand/humanbody/anus/anus.htm [20:04] augusto (n=augusto@201.90.252.203) joined ##slackware. [20:04] well, I know there's gonna be some happy people here soon to see this [20:04] rapid: That had better be SFW. [20:04] Firefox has been acting funny here too. It's been really bad about aborting downloads -- but only on Slackware. I haven't had any problems on Windows or other linux distros that I recall. [20:04] macavity, you don't by any chance know how to put "alt key + f1 key" into a script do you? [20:04] olefiver (n=Ole@cm-84.211.25.70.getinternet.no) left irc: "Leaving" [20:05] No, that's definitely not SFW. [20:05] It kind of is :) [20:06] Action: MrJackson wonders what hald does that makes the hd light blink every 2-3 seconds [20:06] hd (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Connection reset by peer [20:06] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [20:06] swap? [20:07] there is no swap on this machine [20:08] MrJackson: what makes you think its hald? [20:08] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:08] ZmoKus-Oposumas (n=karolis@77.90.73.237) joined ##slackware. [20:08] it stops when i stop hald [20:08] mr-S (n=sven@cc1312074-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:08] ummm [20:09] my thoughts exactly lol [20:09] macavity, (or anyone else) oh I got it # xvkbd -text "\[Alt_L]\[F1]" [20:09] augusto (n=augusto@201.90.252.203) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:09] Maybe it has something to do with hardware diagnostics like SMART [20:09] augusto (n=augusto@201.90.252.203) joined ##slackware. [20:10] Old_Fogie: you rock! [20:10] yeah I soo want that [20:10] user logs in... the menu opens up right away :) [20:11] seems to work really well [20:11] bash: xvkbd: command not found [20:11] whut? [20:11] macavity, SBo has it [20:11] rogerroger [20:11] 1 min build/pack install [20:11] if that [20:11] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:11] this should go into mainline X [20:12] macavity, without a doubt [20:12] what license? [20:12] macavity, I use it for my mice (?meeses?) :) [20:12] So what's that code for, Old_Fogie? [20:12] PaddyMac, sends the keystroks of Alt key + f1 key [20:12] so it pops up , in my usage, gnome menu at log in [20:12] if put into autostart [20:12] Oh. [20:13] Do you have any magix tricks for getting a Broadcom card to work? [20:13] no I dont sorry [20:13] you need 2 chickens and a goat [20:13] heh.. put it in /etc/skel/ and make the script remove itself and you have the equivalent of windows-first-run [20:14] macavity, yea true [20:14] The blood of an innocent, and a U.S. Treasury bond. [20:14] nullboy: i haz teh goats.. you obtain teh chixors and we have ourselves a party! [20:14] RaeGrepus (i=superGea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [20:14] I've just about given up on that. I have ndiswrapper set up. The card seems to be working. I can detect teh essid of the network, but I can't connect to it. [20:15] macavity, it's GPL 2 or later [20:15] and dont forget to toss a virgin in to a live volcano [20:15] macavity, http://homepage3.nifty.com/tsato/xvkbd/ [20:15] Old_Fogie: ah, then xorg wont include it [20:15] PaddyMac: what card is that? [20:15] macavity, they're what MIT license? [20:17] MIT, 2 clause BSD or the ISC license are the only ones allowed into main [20:17] gotcha [20:18] i'm md5'ing a 160GB file [20:18] it's horrible [20:18] basically "true Open Source" licenses.. which is understandable, since they rely on govt fundings who dont want to take sides in the Free vs Open conflict [20:18] nullboy, dual proc? get md5deep threaded [20:18] only a P4 HT [20:18] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.180) left irc: "... Leaving , was still at work..." [20:18] oops.. i think i just stepped on linus' toes :P [20:18] macavity, nah that's a fair analysis [20:18] chessboxing (n=chessbox@88.147.67.116) joined ##slackware. [20:19] imho "Open Source... but copyleft" is hipocracy [20:19] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.16) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:19] free335 (n=free345@ll62-67-188-251-62.ll62.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [20:20] thats probably the only non-technical point where i actually agree with Theo :P [20:20] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:20] theo? [20:20] Nikolai-Zanovsk (n=Nikolai-@201.20.64.142) joined ##slackware. [20:20] Theo de Raat [20:20] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:21] da Big Boss(TM) over at the OpenBSD camp [20:21] Action: lw0x15 pokes stybla [20:21] lw0x15: why are you poking at a stiff? :P [20:21] oh ok [20:21] never heard of him [20:21] he is a true brainiac [20:21] and mad as a dog [20:22] just like Stallman... but in the totally other camp [20:22] I use freebsd not openbsd, I dont need a system designed for "security" :) [20:22] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.158.97.138) joined ##slackware. [20:23] macavity, so he's more argues for "free software with no strings" then "free but give us back changes" ? [20:25] r0b_ (n=r0b@pool-71-244-143-64.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:25] the last sentence is a miss conseption... you dont have to give change "back".. you only have to give them to the people you give the modified program to [20:25] Cannonical is exercising this right [20:26] and Theo would never use the term "free software" [20:26] macavity, what's he use [20:26] he is strictly an Open Source guy [20:26] but at least i can agree to disagree with him [20:26] augusto (n=augusto@201.90.252.203) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:27] augusto (n=augusto@201.90.252.203) joined ##slackware. [20:27] Yeah I'll have to find some googleage for interviews with him, see how his brains wired. So many people have different defin's on Open Source [20:28] chessboxing (n=chessbox@88.147.67.116) left irc: "Leaving" [20:28] in his mind true Open Source means "do what ever the hell you want with it" [20:28] he thinks that copyleft does not respect the freedom of distributors to make commercial packages [20:29] nullboy (n=nullboy@97-94-107-72.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:29] and i totally agree with him on that [20:29] i just think that it is a right they should not have [20:29] sometimes, I wonder what BSD would be without gnu/Lin and vice-versa. Meaning, the license they foster .. what would it really have lead up to? What would we be sitting with today. More development on BSD/Linux or less. [20:30] and that makes for a nice and digestable conflict of oppinion [20:32] whereas that "We say Open Source to avoid ever getting into the whole Freedom talk... but we use copyleft because we want to make sure our software stays.. uhm... well... *Open*... right?!?" kinda stands out to me as the same kind of PR/FUD talk that Microsoft gives to people [20:32] augusto (n=augusto@201.90.252.203) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:32] macavity, yes it's semantics [20:33] im a firm beliver of calling a spade a spade [20:33] augusto (n=augusto@201.90.252.203) joined ##slackware. [20:33] same here, I'm sure enuff people here have heard me rant :) [20:33] but a spade is a shovel ;) [20:34] and it IS kind of funny that Linus is on the OSF board.. but linux is GPL :P [20:34] no OSL [20:34] *not [20:34] spmd (i=N95@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Saindo" [20:34] macavity, yes well he also uses "desktop linux" and not meaning a kernel for desktop use [20:35] he doesn't seem to mind hi-jacking for personal gain on that note [20:35] thats yet a third rant :P [20:36] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:36] but at least we have gotten Sun to say Free Software publically on a number of occations [20:36] Solixa (n=Hypersta@24-207-170-47.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:36] macavity, you see that mozilla blurb when you create a new profile at login, I like that. talks of the freedoms as well. [20:37] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@h90-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) left irc: Connection timed out [20:37] they say "Open Source" in their press releases, but when you go to their website they say Free Software, and the text is linked to the gnu.org explanation of the word [20:38] oh, i haven seen that yet [20:38] nice :-) [20:38] we are indeed gaining land [20:38] but perhaps the time is right for people to think about freedom again [20:38] Action: jkwood throws more mud at macavity [20:38] hit me baby :-) [20:39] Action: lw0x15 pokes stybla [20:39] macavity, that was basically in response to Mozilla flexing it's muscle to protect it's "branding" ; but they got a ton of bad feedback from ubunut users at the nag screen they originall had, having to accept an EULA at first run of FF. So mozilla came out with that. [20:40] wow..accepting a EULA on first run..people are idiots [20:41] what i like about the GPL is that it gives me the right to not accept the license [20:41] straterra, well look at the user base, linux/bsd, you really dont get pop up nag screens (traditionally) for licenses. Only other ones that come to mind are adobe and google apps really [20:41] macavity: you always have the right to not accept it [20:41] and the only implication it has, is that then i cant distribute modified versions of the program out-of-house :P [20:41] so that "new" pop up they originall had was a surprise/different/eye raiser/head scratcher what have you [20:42] alisonken1 (n=alisonke@38.99.247.88) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.0 Virgo http://www.kvirc.net/" [20:42] macavity, but here's a small example of RMS ... what a piece of work I tell ya http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2009-02/msg00167.html [20:42] straterra: yes, but normally that means "terminate all priviledges on site" [20:42] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [20:44] Old_Fogie: a) the man is socially handicapped, but a brilian philosofer. b) he is the president of the FSF, so it can be argued that it is his job to say that :P [20:45] macavity, I could argue that if I put my grandaughters balerina dress that I'm tinkerbell & straterra's girlfriend too :) [20:45] not distributing modified versions of the program, is still accepting and complying with the license. [20:45] and if that gentoo user had just a single clue he would just have said "Gentoo on x86 systems" [20:46] Old_Fogie: Careful, straterra might think you ARE his girlfriend. [20:46] Nick change: augusto -> _Maxiwill_Ar [20:46] pattwo (n=pat@d206-75-107-60.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [20:46] god, RMS is an idiot... i hate fundametalists... [20:46] macavity, see but here's the thing. I don't ?think? I can call it "Slackware GNU/Linux" as Mr. V does not call it that. That is actually trademark infringment that Stallman *is* doing on Gentoo, No? [20:46] nachox: what do you think about Theo de Raat? [20:47] If I say "Slackware GNU/Linux" I ?think? I'm technically trademark infringing. [20:47] macavity, he is a little less fundamentalist, he doesnt mess with others without reason though [20:47] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:47] technically speaking, I dont ?think? RMS can hi-jack a distro by saying, "hey you got our stuff on there, you're GNU/xyz-distro" if the xyz-distro is a registered trademark [20:47] good question.. you should write Eben Moglen at SFLC and ask about it.. and bounce the reply to RMS [20:47] free335 (n=free345@ll62-67-188-251-62.ll62.iam.net.ma) left irc: "Leaving" [20:48] nachox: he doesnt what?!? [20:48] keanne (n=riken@125.5.136.115) joined ##slackware. [20:48] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [20:48] nah, cuz then they'll break my balls too, and I'll have to take me "e" belt off and bust some heads :) [20:48] nachox: have you seen how he bashes people if they dont agree with him? [20:48] nachox: he goes on to speculate about the mental state of you closest relatives as soon as you speak against him [20:48] If we follow RMS's words here, Mozilla could say "please call it Slackware MPL/Linux" [20:49] macavity, linus does that too, but he is not a fundamentalist either [20:49] Old_Fogie: correct [20:49] Yeah I personally think RMS is totally wrong here on that "correction" [20:50] Gargantua (i=Gargantu@S0106001fd0636f41.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:50] I dont disagree with his premise that linux distros' on the whole should be GNU/xyz..but if they're already trademarked otherwise, he's off base to insist it. [20:50] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [20:50] Slackware GNU/Linux MPL/Firefox/Thunderbird BSD/bsd-games should move to using the Dog-on-Fire license, IMHO. [20:51] nachox: when does one qualify as a fundamentalist? [20:51] n350k (n=n350k@189.174.2.89) left irc: "Leaving" [20:51] macavity, who linus? oh he's just as viral as he acuses others to be imo. [20:51] exactly [20:51] Nick change: gabriel -> gabriel_ [20:51] him and RMS, good cop bad cop in the press [20:51] he just wants it to be hush hush [20:51] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:51] some of us see that [20:51] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:51] Nick change: gabriel_ -> gabriel__ [20:51] macavity, when someone asks people to call something GNU/something and would not accept nothing else [20:52] macavity, calling bsd guys masterbating monkeys is certainly viral [20:52] but is it true? [20:52] :P [20:52] XGizzmo_, hahaha [20:53] nachox, macavity I think it's fair to say, neither Linus or RMS will win a Ms. Congeniality contest any time soon :) [20:53] nachox: in that case i am a fundamentalist too... i just do it more subtly by carefully injecting the right nomenclature into the conversation [20:54] macavity, when RMS leaves I vote Dagmar in for head of FSF :) [20:54] now that *would* be some good rss feeds I tell you [20:54] lmao [20:54] you dont bitch me about not calling slackware gnu/slackware. You also accept closed source software even if you dont use it [20:54] Old_Fogie: RMS is simply to stubborn to die, so he wont leave in this Eon :P [20:55] macavity, that's why I'm mean and nasty too, it's a proven theory [20:55] macavity: He survives by spending the nights in the emacs universe. [20:55] nachox: no, i dont accept closed source software.. if you pay attention i never fail to mention that it is bad when the topic comes up [20:56] nachox: and i will bitch at you if i see you express yourself in a manner that makes it hard to distinguish the kernel from the rest of the system [20:57] one is pretty hard pressed to find a job that doesn't require you to use some form of closed software [20:57] feel free to do that, i couldnt care less :P [20:57] nullboy, I can only imagine [20:57] but actually lazyness keeps this one good most the time, as people just say "Slackware" or "the kernel" depending on the context [20:57] every office i've ever worked in has used windows at least somewhere [20:58] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:58] i "dont care" if my employer is Free or not.. they buy my time, not my political orientation [20:58] nullboy, hey we use it at my company. foss isn't an all "around" option, but we're integrating it in to niches now. but it's not a replacmenet, and wont be in my lifetime either. just the way it is. and for the record, I'd like it to be. [20:59] i dont go balistic on them for having coca cola in the dispenser either [20:59] I'd also like to lose 20 lbs , quit smoking and get a pony [21:00] And I want a lifetime supply of kimchi. [21:00] macavity, true. don't look the gift horse in the mouse. "yes sir, I love it..start...programs...(smile with glare to heavens :) [21:00] I have to run windows for my job. [21:00] every job i do is windows centered [21:00] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:00] I wonder if Apple uses Windows at all in their offices. [21:01] Old_Fogie: samba4, OpenChange and arkanodi might actually bring that transition sooner than you think [21:01] Hey you gotta do what you gotta do. But imho, if you think FLOSS can help the company, then in time, after you proved yourself there, it's your duty to your boss if you really think foss fits in xyz part of business, otherwise your doing your job a disservice if you know better and dont say anything [21:01] _ohm (n=nava@own30748RN.rh.ncsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [21:01] it won't win the desktop share [21:01] http://ubiquity.mozilla.com/ [21:01] in time it might actually do just that [21:01] anyone tried that? [21:02] it won't, only because all office software is written for windows [21:02] one of the biggest killers is Quickbooks. [21:02] all? [21:03] and no, it does not work with wine... [21:03] ok, most good software [21:03] what is quickbooks? [21:03] 'openchange'? right, because openexchange, zimbra, kolab, egroupware, phpgroupware, and all the others have replaced exchange :) [21:03] macavity, for my business, Engineering, it just wont. We live without the exchange deal. We used (still use mdaemon and it's gropuware) for *years*. We basically get software from any comapny that makes something plumbing, electrical, mechanical, lighting, fire...you name it. And they all program stuff in vb, or .net. There's just no way ever I could get vendors to write in QT/gtk/...there's just too many. That's not e [21:03] ven mentioning all the AutoCAD, and other engineering apps we use. [21:03] macavity : small business accounting software [21:03] macavity: quickbooks is used and supported by many accountants [21:04] all of my engineering apps need windows [21:04] Nikolai-Zanovsk (n=Nikolai-@201.20.64.142) left irc: "Leaving" [21:04] ananke: each and everyone of those require propietary plugins to work with ms exchange.. and their AD support still is horrible [21:04] PeachTree > QuickBooks [21:04] ananke, :) exchange and AD are cool [21:05] macavity : exactly [21:05] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [21:05] I say that as an accountant. [21:05] thrice`, yea it's just not an option in the Engineering world, which is , always in top 3 largest profession in the world. [21:05] actually, it's not that they require plugins to work with ms exchange, they require proprietary plugins for OTHER software to connect to them [21:05] ananke: ive been following the samba4 and openchange development, and i think they are going to capture the goal within 2-3 years [21:06] All, how would I go about compiling a new module from a .c file? [21:06] xeon (n=Hypersta@24-207-170-47.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:06] of what, servers? that's not where linux struggles [21:06] macavity : that would be nice, but that's quite a long time in the IT world [21:06] lostnhell: gcc nameoffile.c ? [21:06] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:06] make [21:06] you mean they are going to make it work in 2-3 years or they are going to actually see it deployed to some % in 2-3 years? [21:06] thrice`, I had our guys yank the internet out years ago from the desktops. All win2k stations. Looks like everyones getting a new pc now, thin clients, linux ...now they get internets back [21:06] jkwood, TY I am goin to try it [21:06] well, that's how we're leaning [21:06] because if you think that windows admins are going to move to linux based systems in 2-3 years, i think you're mistaken [21:06] no, but migration is a problem so far.. but openchange is going to target just that.. as in, imap clients and Outlook will be able to work on the same server [21:07] yes, and linux will be ready for the desktop this year :P [21:07] that is, the desktops can be moved gradually [21:07] frankly, i don't see anybody being able to duplicate exchange's functionality in a period of 2-3 years, starting from scratch. [21:07] can i have a unicorn too? [21:07] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:07] nachox: Isn't that when Duke Nukem Forever is going to be released? [21:07] macavity, it'll *certainly* be an option for medium size business that's for sure ( < 100 employees in my book) the openchange I mean [21:07] course [21:07] macavity, a good option [21:08] A medium size business, with an eager IT staff, openchange... hmm, a great combo [21:08] Old_Fogie: SMall business is those that do less than $50K/year in revenues, from a legal stand point. [21:08] actually, it seems that i didn't know what openchange is. it's not an exchange implementation, but its set of protocols [21:08] nullboy: no, i think that samba4 et al will be ready in that timeframe.. how long it takes for others to pick up depends on when some Big Muscle company ends up on the cover of Fortune saying "we are saving millions with FLOSS" [21:08] Old_Fogie: I agree. if only my engineering job required surfing the web and instant messaging. linux is at great at those [21:08] i don't know a single windows only administrator who has any intention of learning linux based systems let alone migrating to linux in the future [21:09] thrice`, :D [21:09] FriedBob: It depends on the business [21:09] ananke: That's not something we 'see' you 'say' often. I thought you knew everything. [21:09] FriedBob, sure you don't mean 500K? [21:09] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) joined ##slackware. [21:09] oh you said revenue [21:09] Alright, So I'm using virtualbox with XP, and I can't get the guest OS to read any of my USB drives, nor bridging to work [21:09] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Client exiting" [21:09] Any ideas? [21:09] FriedBob : i usually do. i've been up for a very long time :) [21:09] xeon: why did you pick this channel to ask that? [21:09] nullboy: not untill his boss says "learn it or be replaced! this company is about to hit it big on those massive savings" (which may be as mall informed as can be) [21:10] nullboy, my host OS is slackware [21:10] xeon: Are you aware of #vbox ? [21:10] Sure aren't, thank you jkwood [21:10] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] I haven't done anything with bridging nor USB in Vbox, but I sure hope you get everything figured out. =) [21:11] Old_Fogie: http://www.sba.gov/services/contractingopportunities/sizestandardstopics/faqs/index.html [21:11] jkwood, I am trying to compile a kernel device module, do I need to do anything differently? [21:12] VirtualBox 2.1.2 has been released. That version doesn't require having to bridge the ifaces. [21:12] lostnhell: I don't really know. Does it come with a Makefile? [21:12] XGizzmo_, ah good link gizz [21:12] gm152, I'm using 2.1.2 [21:13] kkkyle (i=kkkyle@dialup-4.225.93.158.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [21:13] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:13] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [21:14] xeon: The network configuration of the guest OS can be configured to use the iface of the host. [21:15] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [21:15] jkwood, I am trying to take the .c source file from slackware and compile it in an ubuntu system, should I use the makefile that is locate in my kernel source /usb/serial/ directory? [21:15] gm152, I know. It won't work. >_< [21:16] squosl (n=squosl@c-76-22-21-81.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:18] _Maxiwill_Ar (n=augusto@201.90.252.203) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:19] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] http://pastebin.com/d129ec4bb [21:20] right or wrong? [21:21] ? [21:21] not enough information [21:21] to know what your software is doing with the hardware [21:21] OS* i mean [21:21] with linux/unix [21:21] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.158.97.138) left irc: "leaving" [21:22] it's not impossible at all but you need to know how to do it and what tools to use. [21:22] pZombie (n=pZombie@athedsl-4539619.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [21:23] nice try [21:23] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-88-176-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: SendQ exceeded [21:24] user6980 (n=user7232@ppp-69-223-55-62.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [21:24] lostnhell (n=Unknown@ip68-10-157-152.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:24] i am installing the clean and original slackware now [21:24] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleep" [21:25] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-88-176-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [21:25] i already hate it, but i am willing to see how it turns out to be once the installation is finished [21:26] losnthell (n=losnhell@ip68-10-157-152.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:26] night guys [21:27] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.48.119) left irc: "Leaving" [21:27] if you already hate it, then why bother going through with it? [21:27] because i waste one dvd on it [21:27] you didn't need to waste any dvd if you really didn't want to [21:27] i think you meant to say 'i wasted one dvd'. so now you're wasting your time in addition to wasting a dvd? [21:28] my time isnt worth much atm [21:28] i can afford to waste it [21:28] so what's the problem then? [21:29] the problem is i have the feeling this distro is going to make me angry [21:29] pZombie : so stop. [21:29] i cant [21:29] sure you can [21:29] nope [21:29] bullshit [21:29] hahaha, he's got a case of "vendor lockin" for the sole price of a blank DVD ... you sir are an idiot [21:30] sorry, didn't mean to offend any idiots :D [21:30] I meant it with love :) [21:30] lol [21:30] Action: Old_Fogie goes back to his hole, has stuff to finish [21:30] he's just another example of failing at everything including trolling [21:30] i can feel the love vibes [21:31] Old_Fogie: Did you ever get a chance the check out the newer avaih slackbuild? [21:31] pZombie: can i have a love hug? [21:31] XGizzmo_, ah yes it does work fine for me here [21:31] ZmoKus-Oposumas (n=karolis@77.90.73.237) left irc: "Reconnecting" [21:31] ZmoKus-Oposumas (n=karolis@77.90.74.237) joined ##slackware. [21:31] Old_Fogie: no dbus problems? [21:31] XGizzmo_, only thing is , I wonder if I shouldnt add that mdns [21:31] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: "leaving" [21:31] anyway.. [21:31] XGizzmo_, mmm, I didnt notice any [21:32] I'll check my logs [21:32] how did you manage to bring out a distro which doesnt even start the setup proceedure automatically? [21:32] Old_Fogie: the auto pi crap? [21:32] ip [21:32] which tells me to partition my HDDs - when the setup menu would have a partition manager included? [21:32] pZombie: nothing is forcing you to run or continue installing [21:33] nullboy sure there is. my subconscious self is forcing me to not stop [21:33] XGizzmo_, yes apparently that also hooks into name resolution for some apps and more zeroconf stuff in later gnome builds it's seeming to be a needed option or at the very leasst highly recommended [21:33] nullboy - you know its like when you want to do 100 push ups , but your subconscious is keeping you from doing so? [21:34] or when you want to stop eating, but something keeps pumping this food into you? [21:34] or.. [21:34] pattwo (n=pat@d206-75-107-60.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: [21:34] pZombie: then you have your own problems that you need to work out with yourself and until you fix those personal issues you probably shouldn't blame something else for your own personal problems [21:34] pZombie : i think you're confusing _this channel_ with _the author of slackware_ [21:34] I have never wanted to do 100 push ups. [21:34] XGizzmo_, "avahi-daemon[3131]: WARNING: No NSS support for mDNS detected, consider installing nss-mdns!" <--- in /var/log/syslog [21:34] please kill me if I do. [21:34] well you are responsible for me having problems noww [21:34] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:34] XGizzmo_, that's what I'm referring too [21:34] Old_Fogie: ohhhh [21:34] pZombie : bullshit. you're the only person responsible for your own problems. [21:34] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:35] pZombie : either adjust your attitude right away, or you can forget about getting support here [21:35] ananke - you just add to my problems now [21:35] pZombie : good, and what are you going to do about it? [21:35] ananke: only way to get rid of a zombie: clean shot through the head [21:36] ananke - what would YOU do? [21:36] Urchlay : see, i'm not convinced. i may need to do more research on that subject [21:36] Action: ananke just watched 'my name is bruce' yesterday [21:36] pZombie : i'd cut my losses and move on. [21:37] i mean, what would YOU do if you were ME? [21:37] i'd type /part [21:37] caixabox_ (n=elcio@caixabox.broker.freenet6.net) joined ##slackware. [21:37] pZombie : which part of my previous statement did you have problems understanding? [21:37] if you were me you would do exactly the same i am doing now [21:37] thats part of being me [21:37] hah i just got home, looks like i've missed a little bit of excitement. [21:38] pZombie : sucks to be you [21:38] ananke: whoa, I was completely unaware of that movie [21:39] Old_Fogie: I think all you would have to do it install the SBo build of nss-mdns [21:39] It should find avahi [21:39] so has this zombie person actually got a specific question or problem it needs help with? [21:39] XGizzmo_, /me chuckles (when did they add that) :D [21:39] Urchlay : me neither, until last week. and i like army of darkness/etc [21:39] XGizzmo_, ah ok thanks i'll try it out [21:39] bb in 10 [21:39] Urchlay: no, just sucks and everything including trolling and has some serious personal mental problems. no big deal [21:40] been there since at least 12.1 [21:40] lol [21:41] so who's idea is it to put /srv into slack just for apache? [21:41] Action: CaptObviousman wonders what's wrong with /var/www [21:42] keveam (n=kevin@24-182-224-178.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:42] CaptObviousman : because /srv is better, imho [21:43] lol, didnt the menu at the start allow me to choose between gnome and kde? [21:43] the whole idea of having crap scattered all over the filesystem is getting tiring. /home/ftp, /var/www, etc [21:43] keveam (n=kevin@24-182-224-178.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:43] i put my kvm/qemu images and scripts in /srv [21:43] also my git trees [21:43] now i get a menu asking for the default manager, in which gnome isnt even inside [21:43] CaptObviousman : ohh, and because /srv is part of LSB :) [21:43] Action: CaptObviousman subscribes to the "fewer directories in / is better" mantra [21:43] heh. /srv/httpd and /srv/www are symlinks to /var/www, how is that useful and not confusing? [21:43] gj there [21:43] fuck. That's a good reason [21:43] CaptObviousman : of course it's a good reason [21:43] now I have to blame LSB folks [21:43] i usually make /www a symlink to /var/www/htdocs too [21:43] pZombie: in case you didn't know this, slackware does not come with gnome [21:44] Action: Urchlay thinks the LSB committee just adds crap like /srv and /media just to justify their own existence [21:44] pZombie: you need to do some reading [21:44] you might be right Urchlay [21:44] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.226.241) left irc: ":wq" [21:44] Urchlay: and you bitching about is going to change what? [21:44] pZombie: slackware stopped including gnome in 10.0 [21:44] mbhayes: not a goddam thing, you got a problem with it? [21:44] ooooh, fiiiiiight! [21:44] I'm not allowed to have an opinion? [21:44] Yeah, sick of listening to you bitch about something that you can't control. [21:44] spook it certainly includes it in the start menu [21:44] Action: CaptObviousman starts chanting "fight! fight! fight!" [21:45] "start menu" [21:45] If it bugs you that much bitch at LSB [21:45] mbhayes: sick of listening to me bitch... you're sick of it after *one comment* about it? [21:45] theres no gnome in slackware. end of story [21:45] pZombie: umm no, it doesn't [21:45] Urchlay: yep [21:45] keveam (n=kevin@24-182-224-178.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:45] i am quite certain i saw a menu to pick gnome... [21:45] *shrug* I can't help you dude [21:45] pZombie: no, you did not [21:45] along with kde which i removed the x of [21:45] kaifan (n=kaifan@201-167-31-12-cable.cybercable.net.mx) joined ##slackware. [21:45] pZombie: sigh [21:45] it is in my head however [21:46] pZombie: There's no Gnome in Slackware. [21:46] error loading operating system [21:46] pZombie: you are just all full of fail aren't you [21:46] why did i expect that? [21:46] lol [21:46] If you saw a menu option for Gnome.. than you're either a) running slackwre 10.0 or older or b) not running slackware [21:46] keveam (n=kevin@24-182-224-178.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:46] i am running the newest slack i could get [21:46] failbus is here for you. [21:47] pZombie: and that is? [21:47] pZombie: well you should have expected that, you're incapable of dealing with your own personal problems...why would you think you would handle slackware if you can't handle yourself? [21:47] keveam (n=kevin@24-182-224-178.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:47] losnthell (n=losnhell@ip68-10-157-152.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [21:48] Does anyone know where I can find a guide on how to write a ~/.bashrc? [21:48] google [21:49] mbhayes: 10.0 did not have it. < 10.0 did [21:49] mbhayes: lol, yes. [21:49] at least back until slackware versions released after gnome was invented [21:49] keveam: bash(1) / google [21:50] keveam : there is nothing special about ~/.bashrc, so maybe you need to clarify what you're trying to accomplish [21:50] slackware-current-27_Jan_2009-DVD.iso this was the iso btw [21:50] spook: that is what I just said... [21:50] and the gnome was in it.. [21:50] in the menu that is [21:50] after doing setup [21:50] pZombie: that's not an official Slackware DVD is it [21:50] oh, fun. he's doing -current, from some rogue source [21:50] pZombie: again, there is no gnome in slackware and it has been like that for years now [21:50] double FAIL [21:50] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-94.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:51] pZombie: Where'd you get that DVD? [21:51] there was a gnome there [21:51] mbhayes: no you said that 10.0 has it [21:51] 21:46 < mbhayes> If you saw a menu option for Gnome.. than you're either a) running slackwre 10.0 or older or b) not running slackware [21:51] mbhayes - of my ISPs ftp page which has all slackware isos [21:51] 21:49 < spook> mbhayes: 10.0 did not have it. < 10.0 did [21:51] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "-_-" [21:51] You said the seame thing I did spook [21:51] pZombie: Where [21:51] ananke: I would like it to display the current directory, and any changes when using cd. [21:51] keveam : any changes to what? [21:52] mbhayes: no i said less than 10.0 [21:52] its the 12.1 version btw [21:52] ananke: The "cd" command. [21:52] 10.0 did not have it [21:52] spook: "10.0 did not have it" were your words [21:52] pZombie: Restart with 12.2 please. This will help insure that you are running a stable supported version. -current are for those that are more familiar with slackware. [21:52] no wait [21:52] its not [21:52] I just copy and pasted it [21:52] keveam : that makes no sense. what? [21:52] mbhayes: you obviously fail basic grammar, but pZombie is clearly the most fail here. [21:52] its 12.2 even [21:53] damn. I shouldn't have de-lurked, this is like IRC in deathmatch mode... [21:53] dud.e. basic grammar? [21:53] Re-read your fucking sentence [21:53] pZombie: you are not running a support version, you will not get support here. [21:53] Old_Fogie: ping? [21:53] 21:49 < spook> mbhayes: 10.0 did not have it. < 10.0 did [21:53] 10.0 DID have it [21:53] ananke: I'm sorry. In yakuake, it displays bash-3.1 only. When I change directories, it doesn't change. It doesn't display hostname or user. [21:53] which is what *I* freakin' said [21:53] spook like i expected support after i saw all this mess installing it [21:53] http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-10.0/slackware/gnome/ [21:54] stfukthx [21:54] you probably cannot support even yourselves [21:54] lol [21:54] pZombie: a mess not made by slackware, but whoever botched it [21:54] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:54] pZombie: could you share where you got the dvd image? [21:55] does anyone happen to have a slackware 11.0 install at hand? [21:55] its a normal mirror site [21:55] He said his "isp" but won't give anyone the URL [21:55] pZombie: so give us the link [21:55] so i doubt its different on other sites [21:55] pZombie: so give us the link [21:55] if i give you the link you will know my isp [21:55] macavity: yeah actually i do, what do you need? [21:55] then you will know where i live [21:55] spook: i need to know what version of Mesa it shipped [21:55] and maybe then you ll come kill me [21:55] spook: it is not listed as an individual package, because it was before modula X [21:56] i read that slackware fanbois are very religious fanatics [21:56] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@h90-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:56] uhm, folks, it's a *KNOWN* fact that if you exit the installer/setup and get dropped to the rootprompt while inside busybox (aka the installer enviroment), and you restart setup .. it will show gnome as a diskset. [21:56] they kill you for not liking their distro [21:56] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [21:56] macavity: my bad, its 12.0.0 nevermind [21:56] :-/ [21:56] pZombie: I highly suggest an attitude change. We are more than willing to help you, as long as you can clearly and concisely convey your problem/issue. If you plan on just staying in here insulting us, you should /part now. [21:56] oh well, here is the site [21:56] life is short anyway [21:56] ftp://ftp.otenet.gr/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-current-iso/ [21:57] keveam (n=kevin@24-182-224-178.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [21:57] keveam (n=kevin@24-182-224-178.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:57] macavity: http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/slackware/slackware-11.0/source/x/x11/ helpful? [21:57] pZombie: Just download the ISO from a actual slackware repo. [21:58] spook: dooh, why didnt i think of looking in the source department :P [21:58] spook: yes, very :P [21:58] Action: macavity turns on brain [21:58] is there a slackware for dummies iso? [21:58] kkkyle (i=kkkyle@dialup-4.225.93.158.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) left irc: [21:58] pZombie: Meaning what? [21:58] pZombie: I could right-click on your name and find out your ISP and even know you're on DSL without you giving any links. [21:58] pZombie: ftp://ftp.otenet.gr/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-current-iso/README.TXT [21:58] This is experimental current ISO builds. They are NOT official, [21:59] pZombie: We have a slackbook, i suggest you read it. http://www.slackbook.org/ [21:59] the experiment failed [21:59] arh.. mesa is not an individual package there either [21:59] time to look at changelogs then [21:59] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [21:59] macavity: good luck :) [22:00] sitwon_ (n=adam@pool-173-79-55-68.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:01] pZombie: no, you failed to download an actual supported ISO from an recognized repo. Don't blame your lack of intelligence on slackware's part. [22:02] pZombie: DIE MIRC USER DIE [22:02] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [22:02] pZombie your a toolbag [22:02] here we go [22:02] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:02] spook: i AM an idiot.. 11.0 shipped with X11R6.9 which is the same code as X11R7.0 (just not split up) [22:02] pZombie: I think wha tyou were seeing was the gnome-icon-theme.. not gnome [22:03] i hit a sensitive spot [22:03] here comes the fanatic fanbois [22:03] macavity: no you're not. you're a good cook... apparently [22:03] pZombie: take your Greek ass out of here [22:03] pZombie.. no your just a loaf of shit... [22:03] pZombie: Keep in mind, that no official -current isos exist [22:03] -pZombie- VERSION mIRC v6.35 Khaled Mardam-Bey [22:03] LOL [22:03] nargon: shitload? is that like meatloaf [22:03] my greek ass might be hairy but its still prettier than yours [22:03] so any you find were created by the mirror maintainers. [22:03] he's a friggin Win-droid [22:04] danc3: hence my comment [22:04] danc3: or a faked CTCP Version string [22:04] nah, it's real [22:04] Action: spook starts looking up mirc 6.35 exploits [22:04] spook good luck hacking my vbox [22:04] oye [22:04] purely to test wether he is actually using mirc, not for any malicious reasons [22:05] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [22:05] Action: xeon would SVSNICK the whole server to funny names if he could. [22:05] lol [22:05] I simply think pZombie is an undisciplined teenager whose barely hit puberty. [22:05] nah. he's just greek. [22:05] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:05] probably, and using Mommie's computer [22:06] spook: this is actually harder than one might think... X11R7 does not have mesa in its directoy, and the PACKAGES.TXT of 11.0 doesnt have it either.... [22:06] pZombie, make sure you delete your browsing history, Don't want mom or dad to know you watch gay porn. =/ [22:06] was there really no Mesa in 11.0?!? [22:07] build a slackware 11.0 virtual machine [22:07] i guess i have to download the x11 package and untar it... [22:08] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [22:08] how about a new name for the distro? [22:08] scatware [22:08] Ew no Slackware was already renamed [22:09] pZombie: how about you stop trolling and leave peacefully [22:09] ping rworkman [22:10] i shall be back when you finally release a working distro [22:10] pZombie (n=pZombie@athedsl-4539619.home.otenet.gr) left ##slackware. [22:10] You do that. [22:10] heh [22:10] he can't even troll us effectively [22:10] Why is it that abundance of ignorance = "Your distro doesn't work" [22:10] he knew it too [22:10] he leave because he was shutdown [22:11] left* [22:11] I know I'm getting old when I I become exasperated with the attitudes of "today's young people". [22:11] Mommy said it was bed time. [22:11] next up on the list, the person making those isos needs a more idiot proof way of telling people that his images are not official. [22:11] like a flashing flash banner [22:11] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-70-122.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:12] inside a blink tag, inside a marque tag [22:12] Nothing is idiot proof. I am always amazed at the ability of people to excel at idiocy. [22:12] spook: there's aREADME.TXT file that states it IN the directory with the .iso [22:12] If he failed to read it.. his own problem [22:12] ...and of the human capacity for self-delusion. [22:12] mbhayes: thats not obvious enough [22:13] sure it is [22:13] Wow. Sorry for the delay, but honestly, that guy wasn't even worth the effort of logging into the banbot. [22:13] he should change the installer to display the message THIS IS UNOFFICIAL [22:13] It could only be more obvious if it was THIS_IS_NOT_AN_OFFICIAL_RELEASE.TXT [22:13] spook: sure.. but why? [22:13] Its still "slackware" [22:13] That would be like shooting a man who's got terminal cancer and a severed femoral artery. [22:14] arktvrvs (i=stygian@adsl-69-149-148-250.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:14] mbhayes: except hes breaking gpl, i could not find any record of how he had changed slackware. [22:14] wth are you talking about? [22:14] The site that hosts that -current iso built it from official sources [22:14] there's nothing "breaking" the GPL with creating an iso from a source tree [22:15] rworkman: do you know what luksDump shows your for your "Hash spec: " ? [22:15] he put gnome in with it [22:15] shows you* [22:15] spook: You assume he did [22:15] Did you download the iso and mount it? [22:15] sha1 [22:15] Are the Slackbuilds from slacky.eu generally usable without any editing? [22:15] I'm pretty sure that guy saw gnome-icon-theme [22:15] nullboy: ^ [22:15] rworkman: thanks [22:15] same here [22:15] rworkman: do you still have a slack 11 install around? [22:16] macavity: hahaha [22:16] well... one never knows :P [22:16] macavity: vbox one [22:16] macavity: but if it's *important* - I can make one (but not tonight) [22:16] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [22:16] slackware-12.2.: gnome-icon-theme-2.23.92-noarch-2 [22:16] or use mbhayes [22:16] rworkman: not really.. i am just banging my head against what version of Mesa it shipped [22:17] losnthell (n=losnhell@ip68-10-157-152.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:17] rworkman: and since it is not listed as a seperate package, nor are the .so.number any good (they still have the same numbers!) [22:17] rworkman: so the only thing left is to actually run glxinfo and see what version it reports [22:17] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [22:17] kaifan (n=kaifan@201-167-31-12-cable.cybercable.net.mx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:18] kaifan (n=kaifan@201-167-31-180-cable.cybercable.net.mx) joined ##slackware. [22:18] macavity: hrm... you have the source tree present? [22:19] biatche (i=biatche@unaffiliated/biatche) joined ##slackware. [22:19] thats the strange thing.. i cant find it as a seperate package there either [22:19] macavity: if so, extract the 11R6.9.0-src.tar.bz2 and look in it; I *think* it's in there [22:19] that's X11R6.9.0... [22:19] hrm, biab [22:19] hi im not familiar with slackware, i'd like to modify a rc.d script. i notice there are from rc1 to rc6.. with many files of the same kind. which or what should i edit? [22:19] PaddyMac (i=1000@dialup-4.153.204.170.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) left ##slackware. [22:19] X11R6.9 and X11R7.0 are the same, except the later is split up [22:20] biatche: what file are you wanting to modify? [22:20] /old-slack/var/log/packages/x11-devel-6.9.0-i486-13_slack11.0:usr/X11R6/include/GL/osmesa.h [22:20] k10.bond0 [22:20] and i just looked in their source dir, and mesa is not part of the regular X distribution [22:20] biatche: the real question is what are you wanting to do [22:20] necropresto (n=necropre@unaffiliated/necropresto) left irc: "leaving" [22:20] odd indeed [22:20] biatche: wth is that? [22:20] network bonding [22:20] biatche: create /etc/rc.d/rc.bond and start it from /etc/rc.d/rc.local [22:20] i wanna add some 'settings' [22:20] clavius: huh? [22:20] but there are many k10bond0 files already. should i ignore those? [22:20] osmesa? [22:21] ah, screw this [22:21] clavius: no worries [22:21] that's the only mesa i get from greping 11.0 packages [22:21] biatche: what distro is this? [22:21] slackware [22:21] biatche: where'd you get the package that contains that/ [22:21] kaifan (n=kaifan@201-167-31-180-cable.cybercable.net.mx) left irc: Client Quit [22:22] 12.1 if im not wrong [22:22] biatche: create /etc/rc.d/rc.bond and start it from /etc/rc.d/rc.local [22:22] i got no idea, its a proprietory os.. based on slackware [22:22] for fscks sakes [22:22] and i have no experience with slackware [22:22] hm ok [22:22] man.. [22:22] I'm outta here [22:22] biatche: just so we know for sure: can you post the output of: cat /etc/*sio* [22:22] spook and what do i do with k10bond0? wont it kinda like work twice? [22:22] isnt that a 'service' ? [22:22] ogridd (n=ndambuki@196.201.208.129) joined ##slackware. [22:23] biatche: i have no idea. thats how i'd do it in slackware. [22:23] it is slackware 12.1.0 [22:23] biatche: just so we know for sure: can you post the output of: cat /etc/*sio* [22:23] what is this k10bond0 [22:24] dude.. [22:24] biatche: What Distro is this [22:24] dude .. where is my slack! [22:24] this is not slackware if k10bond0 is in there [22:24] it is slackware 12.1.0 [22:24] its a proprietory [22:24] distro.. based on slackware... never heard of before [22:24] then ask whoever created [22:24] to do specific purposes [22:24] its not Slackware 12.1.0 [22:24] if someone changed that much in it.. its not Slackware.. go bug them [22:24] backtrack? [22:25] alright ty [22:25] bw64? [22:25] biatche: backtrack, by an... mbhayes .. dammit! [22:25] hahaha [22:25] BP{k}: I'm pretty certain its backtrack [22:25] and if the /etc/slackware-version is tehre and states 12.1.0 [22:25] tell them to stop that [22:25] reminds me of someone else ripping off work and calling it their own. [22:26] Oh hey.. I ported an entire distribution to another platform in 3 months! [22:26] heh [22:26] btw, they selling their system [22:26] lol [22:26] i paid for this [22:26] doesnt' surprise me [22:26] and you got ripped off [22:26] no [22:27] yeah [22:27] they wrote their own software [22:27] like i said [22:27] biatche: It's become popular lately to take Pat V's work, and rip it off for the purpose of making a quick buck. ;) [22:27] its to do some specific stuff [22:27] biatche: what "specific" stuff? [22:27] What does it due that Slackware can't do? [22:27] Name me ONE thing. [22:27] some cybercafe thing [22:27] what? [22:28] you mean chili spot? [22:28] alright [22:28] if you really wanna know [22:28] for windows, heard of software like deepfreeze [22:28] ? [22:28] uhh yeah [22:28] those shadow copy stuff [22:28] uhh yeah [22:29] so, its a diskless system (pxe+iscsi) and kinda like shadow copy [22:29] when you restart the client pc [22:29] ok actually [22:29] it doesnt make permanent changes to disk [22:29] So they take it as their on software .. sell it.. but leave /etc/slackware-version in tact? [22:29] what assholes [22:29] so 'customers' can do whatever they wanna do, put viruses for all i care [22:30] and upon resstarting the pc, everythings back to its original sate [22:30] state [22:30] Mad_Dud (n=Mad_Dud@c108-226.icpnet.pl) left irc: "changing servers" [22:30] yeah somethingl ike that [22:30] Mad_Dud (n=Mad_Dud@c108-226.icpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [22:30] I wouldn't pay them squat for it [22:30] keveam (n=kevin@24-182-224-178.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [22:31] biatche: just out of curiosity, what is the output of "cat /etc/{motd,issue}" [22:31] ogridd (n=ndambuki@196.201.208.129) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [22:32] nothing [22:32] just bare usual \n stuff [22:32] Compatible with Novell SLED 10.x [22:32] That 's where that stupid file came from [22:32] eh wahts that [22:33] Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop [22:33] oh [22:33] suse [22:33] ok [22:33] So you're trying to use deepfreeze on slackware 12.1 [22:33] yeah something like that [22:33] Why didn't you just come out and say that? [22:33] except i just need to maintain one system [22:33] Why the big freakin' secret? [22:33] rather than 30 systems or so [22:34] mbhayes: bigger v-penis? :) [22:34] hah [22:36] hashed_ (n=hashed@ip70-178-108-166.ks.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:36] lol [22:37] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [22:38] biatche (i=biatche@unaffiliated/biatche) left ##slackware. [22:41] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:44] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:47] user6980 (n=user7232@ppp-69-223-55-62.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:47] mbhayes: I don't konw how difficult it would be to do, but someone hinted me that bash.org reformats for their phone, but noobfarm doesn't. [22:48] rworkman: that sounds like a css thing [22:49] probably [22:49] IIRC there are "mobile device: rules [22:50] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [22:51] losnthell (n=losnhell@ip68-10-157-152.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [22:54] whoa i had no idea OO.o 3 could open powerpoint files [22:55] _ohm (n=nava@own30748RN.rh.ncsu.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [22:56] http://zrusin.blogspot.com/2009/02/latest-changes.html <<-- check the bottom comment *GRIN* [22:58] euzao (i=1000@189.38.153.194) joined ##slackware. [22:58] i think i just invented a word: ninjalistic :P [22:59] i hope Zack will answer this in his usual amusing style [23:01] macavity: you really like rusin [23:01] dont you lol [23:01] kkkyle (i=kkkyle@dialup-4.225.89.31.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [23:02] govtcheez (i=govtchee@c3p0.reverse.net) joined ##slackware. [23:02] lw0x15: if you read his blog regularly you will notice that he has a really fun personality [23:02] lw0x15: this latest entry doesnt show it well, but try and read the older ones [23:03] kkkyle (i=kkkyle@dialup-4.225.89.31.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) left ##slackware. [23:03] lw0x15: he usually start of in the style of a total megalomaniac :P [23:03] kkkyle (i=kkkyle@dialup-4.225.89.31.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [23:03] kkkyle (i=kkkyle@dialup-4.225.89.31.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:03] hi [23:04] how do I add cyrillic support to slackware? [23:04] kkkyle (i=kkkyle@dialup-4.225.89.31.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [23:04] now that is a really good question [23:04] just inputting cyrillic, or having your desktop be completely in cyrillic? [23:05] open up a term and type in ?@825B [23:05] lol [23:05] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@h90-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:05] tuvok302-a (i=vircuser@h90-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) joined ##slackware. [23:05] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-76-180-122-198.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:08] kkkyle (i=kkkyle@dialup-4.225.89.31.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:09] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) joined ##slackware. [23:11] Nick change: tuvok302-a -> tuvok302 [23:12] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [23:13] Looks like the zombie left.. \0/ [23:15] ? [23:16] pZombie [23:16] oh [23:16] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:17] U-Neeks (i=555@200-193-227-203.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:21] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:23] Nick change: r0b_ -> r0b [23:24] Does Korganizer work? I get no reminder [23:24] it works nicely for me [23:25] is the alarm daemon running? [23:25] if it is, you should see it in the system tray next to the clock [23:26] hum... [23:26] I only see a calendar with a bell in it [23:28] MugsyDaFish (n=danny@adsl-99-26-176-245.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:29] That would be it. [23:29] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:29] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:29] something is wrong than [23:30] heret|c (n=heretic@adsl-176-73-193.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:30] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [23:34] heret|c (n=heretic@adsl-232-62-144.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [23:35] bleh i cant remember how to change how much kdevelop indents when i tab [23:42] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. 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Gone 2 hrs 35 min 16 secs [23:57] alisonken1home: you're living in the PAAAAST MAAAAAN [23:57] lol [23:57] migration to encrypted partition done! [23:57] lol [23:57] YAY [23:57] nullboy: working? [23:57] its 5am here [23:57] no settings or configs lost [23:57] spook: :) [23:57] spook: yep all good [23:58] nullboy: nice :) [23:58] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.42) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:58] i have to travel soon so i needed to get that done [23:58] good idea [23:58] this way i just loose hardware [23:59] ;) [23:59] indeed [00:00] --- Thu Feb 5 2009