[00:00] Action: antler takes a page from the eviljames book :D [00:00] antler: be careful for crying out loud, look at that, you left jagged edges. :P [00:00] antler, install grsync yet? [00:00] sadly, there isn't a shortcut for --stats [00:01] how many interrobang (?!) is incredulous?! I may have to google grsync... [00:01] firebird619: :P [00:01] oh, it's not that exciting :/ [00:01] eviljames: grsync is on SBo as well. [00:01] maddslacker: yeah, i just opened it up. mmmmmmm.... checkboxes [00:02] yes, use it as a tool to LEARN, not as a crutch...heh [00:02] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [00:02] firebird619: i think cli is probably faster. [00:02] maddslacker: good call, then. [00:02] eviljames: yeah, probably. [00:03] eviljames, I like it cuz you can graphically do what you want, then view the corresponding cli command and switches [00:03] i would use it because i'm lazy and like to point and click [00:03] antler, yes, but the power of rsync is in a script :D [00:04] antler: just like you're lazy to try opera 10 b1. ARGH. :D [00:04] opera....meh [00:04] maddslacker: yeah, i wouldn't own a porsche in a city that only allows 50mph [00:04] maddslacker: what's wrong with opera? [00:04] firebird619: i like the convenience of personal computers [00:04] nothing really, I just don't like it aesthetically [00:04] thus the 'meh' [00:05] maddslacker: What's the last version you checked out? [00:05] i use it a lot on my Palm phone though, go figure [00:05] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [00:05] firebird619, 9ish [00:05] I've been running 10 since the first alpha. [00:05] what about it makes it better than my well configured FF? [00:05] 9.64 is the latest [00:06] ok. sorry, i'm new. are the install discs 1 and 2 not bootable? [00:06] they should be [00:06] 1 for sure [00:06] 2 prolly not [00:06] maddslacker: http://imagebin.org/51261 <---Opera 10 Beta 1 [00:06] eviljames, how's canada [00:07] arg, i think this laptop is simply dead. [00:09] scubacuda (n=rog@96.10.100.50) joined ##slackware. [00:09] tabs in that new opera look like they take up too much screen space :( [00:09] nooper: the visual ones, you can disable them. [00:09] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:10] ah cool [00:10] and you can set a background for speed dial, and easily customize speed dial now. [00:10] i disable that. blank screen comes up way faster [00:10] CaMiKaSe (n=andi@201-42-169-143.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:10] speed dial? [00:10] CaMiKaSe (n=andi@201-42-169-143.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware. [00:11] than speed dial, I've never noticed a speed difference. [00:11] briareus: a built-in feature in opera (addon for FF) that gives you quick access to whatever Web sites you set for it. [00:11] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.149.241) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [00:11] briareus: speed dial shows 9 links when you first open a tab [00:11] firebird619, http://jencropable.net/files/pics/screenshots/screeny.png [00:11] briareus: webkit has this too now [00:12] oda (n=oda@189.120.165.49) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:12] or maybe that was just midori... [00:12] dkerschner: firebird619 uh, I already do that by saving my normal eleven links as a bookmark folder and open it upon starting [00:12] dkerschner: Or in Opera 10 b1, you can set up to 25. [00:12] oda (n=oda@189.120.165.49) joined ##slackware. [00:13] briareus: This is speed dial: http://imagebin.org/51592 [00:13] http://imagebin.org/51593 my opera [00:14] firebird619: ah, I already do that too by using exalead as a home page [00:14] HAHAHA: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Opera_Browser [00:14] nheco (n=nheco@189-10-168-224.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [00:14] firebird619: you love opera :P [00:14] antler: Yes, I do. [00:14] nooper: Windows?!? :P [00:14] "well, why don't you marry it, then?" --pee wee herman [00:14] firebird619: yep [00:14] hahaha [00:14] firebird619, go to that link [00:14] :D [00:14] firebird619: http://www.exalead.com/search/ [00:15] firebird619: that's how I roll [00:15] same thing, but without the adding software running [00:15] rofl maddslacker [00:16] briareus: I would never use a site for that, especially when it's built in to opera, how is that added software when it's built-in? [00:16] maddslacker: lol [00:17] firebird619: it's just more processes running [00:17] especially if its an add-on [00:17] it's not an addon, it's an addon in firefox, it's built-in to opera. [00:17] I don't opera [00:17] excuse me, I don't oprah [00:17] I don't firefox [00:18] firebird619: png your opera. let's see [00:18] antler: I did above. :P [00:18] firebird619, so you're, uh, Norwegian then? [00:18] opera mostly sucks on my OLPC XO. it absolutely crawls [00:18] maddslacker: I don't live in Norway, I live in the U.S., but I am part Scandinavian. [00:19] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:19] firefox isn't much better, but enough better [00:19] firebird619, I was referring to the opera link and therefore demographic [00:19] firebird619: hey the fonts don't look as nice as they should [00:19] and, http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Ubuntu [00:20] firebird619: go to, e.g., slashdot and png it [00:20] antler: the one with speed dial, or the other one? [00:20] speed dial [00:20] firebird619: so why is it better to run that sort of app in a software program in your system rather than on a webpage the same way [00:20] heh. "Ubuntu users will enter just about anything short of 'sudo rm -rf /' into their terminals. You might try telling one to overwrite /var/lib/dpkg/status, thus ruining his package management, or /etc/hostname, thus preventing him for using 'sudo'. [00:20] nheco (n=nheco@189-10-168-224.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:20] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [00:21] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Client Quit [00:21] briareus: I didn't say it was better, just that I wouldn't use a web site for something like that. [00:21] chance22 (n=chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:21] SLACKWARE? Can someone tell me the relative strengths and weaknesses between these different approaches to the same idea? http://imagebin.org/51592 V http://www.exalead.com/search/ [00:22] firebird619: yeah but I don't get why you wouldnt [00:22] I mean if its a good reason I'll use opera and do it that way [00:22] k_wolf (n=wolf@201009232003.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [00:22] ugh, too links to follow, you exceeded my energy level [00:22] haha [00:22] *two [00:22] Action: firebird619 gives maddslacker a red bull. :P [00:22] maddslacker: this from the guy who just pasted worthless links [00:22] maddslacker: OH! [00:23] those were NOT worthless! heh [00:23] heret|c (n=heretic@c-24-30-117-194.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:23] I ain't even sure what's being talked about here... [00:23] speaking of res bull, you might appreciate this: I've just created a new cocktail. I mixed Cherry flavored Bawls with a Captain Morgan spiced rum. I'm calling it "Captain's Balls" [00:23] " [00:23] * We noticed that Javascript is not active in your browser. To get the best user experience on Exalead, we recommend you to activate Javascript. [00:23] FAIL! [00:23] firebird619, is explaining why opera is the shit [00:23] k_wolf (n=wolf@201009232003.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [00:23] antler: here: http://imagebin.org/51594 [00:24] cmk_zzz (n=cmk@125-237-112-135.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "leaving" [00:24] Trust me, you will like the taste of Captain's Balls on your tongue. [00:24] the "click to add a web page" bit, looks silly [00:24] Urchlay: the exalead page is the same idea, but accessible from any computer with a login [00:24] reminds me of the meme on thedailywtf.com, where they talk about printing stuff, sitting it on a woodgrain table, taking a photo, and scanning it [00:24] briareus: I can do that same thing with Opera Links. [00:25] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:25] firebird619: oh, i just realised that you might not like antialiased fonts, and that's why the fonts look as they do [00:25] eh, so it ain't just a search engine? [00:25] antler: err, flux's Run program got caught in the screenshot, sorry. :P [00:25] antler: I have antialiased fonts set. :) [00:25] Urchlay: exalead is a search engine WITH that added functionality of favorite pages loading on the front page. [00:25] seriously, what gives with the woodgrain background? [00:25] firebird619: no, it didn't or i don't see it [00:26] antler: the run dialog didn't? Heh, it shows here. :P [00:26] briareus: ah. I use a combination of browser bookmarks and URL bar autocompletion to keep track of sites [00:26] firebird619: oh, i see it now [00:26] hahaha [00:26] Urchlay: I did, it's customizable. [00:26] Urchlay: so its what firebird619 is doing in his system processes inside of opera, with the addition of being a search engine also available from any computer you sit at. [00:26] firebird619: i think that you can get the fonts to look way nicer [00:26] antler: me too, I've had major issues with fonts lately. [00:27] I don't know why. [00:27] I'm not really taking sides in this debate, I don't even really get what the deal is [00:27] seems like both are solutions in search of a problem, but maybe thats just me [00:27] I run mostly artwiz fonts, so I can't really see what "font problem" firebird619 is having. they look normal to me [00:28] firebird619: for me, the fonts in opera look amazing out of the box. [00:28] you mean like the font at "Discover Opera" and "CSS Reference" next to it? [00:28] gbonvehim (i=1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:28] firebird619: whereas with firefox, further work needs to be done [00:29] that woodgrain on that opera desktop makes me want to masturbate onto Pinocchio [00:29] scubacuda_ (i=rog@93.182.154.11) joined ##slackware. [00:29] excuse me, it's the Captains Balls that I'm putting in my mouth which are making me so rude [00:30] briareus: font rendering in general [00:30] (Captain's Balls is the drink i just invented by mixing Cherry flavored Bawls with Captain Morgan) [00:30] scubacuda_ (i=rog@93.182.154.11) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:30] trust me, you will like the taste of the Captain's Balls on your tongue [00:30] ..... [00:31] elilo (n=elilo@141-3-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [00:31] briareus: that sounds disgusting, even without considering the name [00:31] wow, what a coinkidink. i had ping -t running on a server that's coming online right now and as i was sitting my ass down, it started to reply [00:31] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.23.37) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:32] correlation? [00:32] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [00:32] though probably not more disgusting than the last drink I had that contained Capt. Morgan (coffee + sugar + cream + capt morgans. Yuck) [00:32] Urchlay: you're just jealous of my proximity to the Captain's Balls [00:32] antler: got an ss of your opera? [00:33] antler: In a second, I'll login to xfce, I think they look better there. They look very nice in osol. [00:33] oh man, my download seems to have stopped at 486M of 699M [00:33] crappola [00:33] http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Firefox [00:33] next time I'll wget it [00:33] gbonvehim (i=1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [00:33] or use opera to dl it [00:33] oh shut up [00:33] lol [00:33] hehe [00:33] Action: firebird619 high fives maddslacker. [00:34] my little XO laptop really made me despise opera. excrutiatingly slow. It's as if someone ported it to a tiny laptop without removing any cruft whatsoever. [00:34] firebird619: no, i don't have opera installed. oh, that screenie was flux in osol? [00:34] ff isn't much better on the XO, but more than enough to matter [00:34] antler: no, flux in slackware. [00:35] firebird619: k [00:35] the XO is the laptop that has a hand-crank on the side? [00:35] antler: I was just saying, in osol, the fonts look very nice. [00:35] antler: any suggestion for font config? [00:35] i don't really know if it makes a difference with font rendering, but i've always had opera in kde [00:36] this is my most recent scrot http://www.titanomachy.net/sights/screenshots/screenshot20090512a.png [00:36] firebird619: one sec, i'll look for a link [00:36] antler: k, thanks. [00:36] but this is my favorite scrot: http://www.titanomachy.net/sights/screenshots/screenshot20090118b.png [00:37] maybe I should take one now [00:38] firebird619: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/beautiful-fonts-in-12.1-640468/ <-----excellent results when i had 12.1; http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/beautiful-non-aa-crisp-fonts-in-slackware-12.2-690357/ <---- not so great with 12.2 atm [00:38] any hints for restarting a download http that is apparently stalled? [00:39] I'm 486M into a 699M iso [00:39] there's a resume in the ff downloader, but it soean't always work [00:39] you mean press pause and then resume? [00:40] yeah [00:41] crap, it's starting over [00:41] son of a fuck. [00:41] wget [00:41] best bet [00:41] firebird619: there's a sample .font.config that he uses, which, under 12.1, was really amazing. again, i haven't had the same luck under 12.2 [00:41] yeah, I'm doing it now [00:41] or ftp it even [00:41] should have done it the first time [00:41] briareus, kde4? [00:42] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:42] maddslacker: eh? [00:42] are you on kde4? [00:42] maddslacker: fluxbox [00:42] I've run fluxbox since 2001 [00:42] billywayne (n=bwayne@68-119-83-231.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com) left irc: [00:42] oh, I like downloading stuff in dolphon [00:42] briareus, SP3 is out for XP! [00:42] maybe it was 2002, but I was running blackbox and waimea back in 2001 [00:42] tsk tsk tsk [00:42] "When we plug the drive, it reads, "USB Drive not recognized".  We are pretty sure it's the usb files which are damaged." [00:43] jeev: windows can shampoo my crotch [00:43] lol [00:43] mmlj4: ? eh? [00:43] what's better, virtualbox or vmware? [00:43] antler: ok, thanks. [00:43] jeev: virtualbox, hands down [00:43] briareus: what's a USB file? [00:43] ahh, no 64bit [00:44] virtualbox not support 64bit [00:44] qemu yes [00:44] :< [00:44] mmlj4: who said that? [00:44] briareus: it's from a job posting on guru.com that i'm NOT answering [00:44] LOL [00:44] elilo: uhm ... it should do, afaik. [00:44] chance22 (n=chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:44] nheco (n=nheco@189-10-168-224.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [00:44] i was about to freaking download it :/ [00:45] i'm on vista 64 and want to run slackware64. [00:45] brb [00:45] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [00:45] scubacuda (n=rog@96.10.100.50) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:45] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [00:46] w00t http://www.titanomachy.net/sights/screenshots/screenshot20090118a.png [00:46] I forgot about that one [00:46] I xrandr [00:46] I heart xrandr [00:46] in fact as I am to understand it, virtualbox should even support 64bits guest, on 32bits hosts as long as your processor supports virtualisation. [00:46] sorry, it's the Captains Balls influencing me [00:46] briareus, so could i run slack64 on vbox ? [00:46] jeev: no idea [00:47] jeev: try it [00:47] jeev: then tell us, or better yet blog it [00:47] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [00:47] (that's "web log" for those of you at home keeping score) [00:47] man i dont blog [00:47] i should. [00:47] i'd turn it into a left wing wacko site though [00:47] heh [00:47] jeev: given the above pre-requisites; yes. [00:47] jeev: you're a leftist? [00:48] antler: I haven't followed that link yet, I logged into xfce and fonts look the same there. [00:48] if you consider that i think we went to war for no reason and rush limbaugh, sean hannity and bush are terrorists being a leftist, then yes [00:48] Action: briareus does the /ignore jeev command and clears buffer [00:48] hahaha [00:48] firebird619: you set the antialias in the xfce config panel thingy? [00:49] leftists-- [00:49] jeev: that doesn't make you a leftist, any more than being a nazi who hates communists makes you 'right wing' [00:49] http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/7568/060509174841.jpg < seen that today. i can ~almost~ walk under it without ducking [00:49] Decoy- (n=Decoy@rrcs-70-63-108-15.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:49] antler: yeah, I'll make a ss here, maybe you'll see a difference. [00:49] LOL on that truck [00:49] jeev: I agree with what you said, but in the case you are describing, it's cheney/bush/oil companies being on the left [00:49] jeev, see the smart car behind it? lol [00:49] firebird619: do it as slashdot so that the reference is the same [00:49] briareus, oh well. i'm just against idiots who say god told them to kill their mid-east enemies [00:49] *at [00:50] lol no heret|c, let me look again [00:50] antler: yup. :) [00:50] ojh, on the left.. that's not am ini [00:50] that truck is STOOPID [00:50] looks like a chevy aveo [00:50] or a chevy something [00:50] hashi (n=hashi@d122-104-82-12.meb8.vic.optusnet.com.au) left irc: "ircII EPIC4-2.8 -- Are we there yet?" [00:50] hold on. i have a shot of it [00:50] that truck screams "TINY PENIS RIDING ABOARD" like nothing I've seen in years [00:51] http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/2894/060509174924.jpg there [00:51] how do you get into that truck? via trampoline? Ghey. [00:51] oh, that's a smart car LOL thought you said mini [00:51] probably has hydros [00:51] schpenke (n=schpenke@cpe-66-25-50-212.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:51] heret|c, open up your photo software and connect the pics together [00:52] antler: http://imagebin.org/51596 [00:52] lemme try in gimp [00:52] smart cars are crap in a wreck [00:52] nvm. gim not installed [00:52] I saw one flattened out here in phx [00:52] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: "42" [00:52] briareus, if i fart near a smart car it'll fall apart [00:52] shit man this sucks [00:52] if i continue virtualbox install, ti'll disconnect my internet for one sec but enough to cut everything [00:53] http://jencropable.net/blogwithin/good-use-of-a-smart-car/ [00:53] oh well [00:53] brb probably [00:53] I would ride a smart car if: A) I was the only car on the road. B) There were only other smart cars on the road. C) Cat's and dogs were somehow prevented from running into the road and thus ending my life [00:53] lol [00:54] briareus: lol, a chihuahua could make a smart car crash. :P [00:54] firebird619: i can't tell the difference - the rendering on both pages look the same to me. i think the problem is with 12.2 OR my missing something to do to improve the way fonts look in 12.2. the latter seems more likely, but my fonts atm aren't that great, either [00:55] briareus, hit that link above [00:55] maddslacker: that smart monster truck is genius [00:55] someone left a comment on that page that the smart car gets 85 mpg in the UK [00:55] pfft [00:55] briareus, heh, yeah [00:55] ir does [00:55] jeev3 (n=email@24-180-16-19.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:55] they don't have the EPA over there [00:55] 85mpg? bull. shit. [00:55] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) left irc: Nick collision from services. [00:55] i agree briareus [00:55] Nick change: jeev3 -> jeev [00:55] heh [00:56] I have a 250cc motorcycle that will do 60 on a good day [00:56] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [00:56] antler: k, thanks. I haven't done anything with that site you gave me yet, I just logged in to xfce. The font issues all began after I changed my username, and change the folder in /home to reflect that. The fonts went downhill from there, but they are a lot better than they first were. [00:56] 60 mpg [00:56] * [00:57] antler: this looks great: http://webpages.charter.net/daedra/12.1/snapshot5.png <--from site you gave me. [00:57] I have a 99 volvo v70 with > 200K miles, and it still gets > 30 MPG [00:57] 30 is nowhere near 85 [00:58] the US smart car is rated 38 [00:58] maybe if it was all downhill [00:58] and my volvo can seat 7 and is sorta safe [00:58] you could do 70 [00:58] firebird619: yeah, it does. have you tried just using his .conf? maybe save yours first [00:58] nothing to lose [00:58] diven, with 5 adults and some luggage though? [00:58] I get 22mpg on the highway in my Frontier NISMO, that's fine for me [00:59] antler: no, not yet. Opera has a config setting, Enable Core X fonts, any difference you think? It's disabled. [00:59] they would have to get and and push to get 75 [00:59] briareus, nice truck [00:59] dive, 75 mph or mpg? which car? [00:59] 75 mpg in any car [00:59] yeah [01:00] diesel VW's can get 60ish [01:00] shit that whale wars shit is kind of stupid [01:00] it's too dramatic [01:00] maddslacker: not a single flaw yet, and I've been taking it all over the southwest for 3 years [01:00] stop the whales from dying and stop talking [01:00] jeev: agreed [01:00] briareus, it's all john mccains fault! [01:00] true, but that is a completely different thing than a gasoline engine [01:00] the whale savers are so intent of reminding me they are saving whales that I want to put a fucking harpoon in their satisfied faces [01:01] dive, yes [01:01] lol [01:01] briareus, where in the SQ, roughly? (i'm in Colorado) [01:01] base memory to allocate to the machine.. is that changable later + will it take that ram away from my OS ? [01:01] maddslacker: Scottsdale. I'm considering moving back to Colorado right now/ [01:01] Action: maddslacker buys a diesel and burns whale oil in it [01:01] briareus, w00t! [01:01] maddslacker: I moved here from Denver in 03, and want to move back. I want 4 seasons. [01:02] maddslacker: the only thing Scottsdale has on Denver is more hotties, which Denver already had shitloads of. But put it this way: There are so many 10's in Scottsdale that you feel sorry for the 8's. [01:03] heh [01:03] douglas county is like that now [01:03] oda (n=oda@189.120.165.49) left irc: "Leaving" [01:03] briareus, I'm in Parker [01:04] firebird619: i don't remember doing that or not doing that. try it [01:04] k [01:04] firebird619: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474960 [01:05] nice link, thanks. [01:05] I was in S.Denver, one block above Englewood (Evans I think was the street) was living in a cool pad next to Harvard Gulch park [01:05] nice [01:06] if I move back, I'm going to try and live in the mountains and commute [01:06] fuck denver [01:06] firebird619: but that's not precisely your problem, since yours is disabled and the guy's is enabled :P [01:06] fuck cities. all cities. [01:06] briareus: why such strong feelings right now? [01:07] antler: strong feelings? I have strong feelings against cities because as the unrelenting deflation continues, we are going to witness blood spilling in the streets. rural areas are better places to weather things like food and water shortages. [01:07] but they aren't strong feelings, really. [01:07] briareus, yeah, I wouldn't live in town [01:08] maddslacker: if I can swing it, i want to live in Idledale. Mainly because i want to live in a village called Idledale. [01:08] "What do you do up there in Idledale?" [01:08] "I relax" [01:08] In Idledale. Hahahahaha [01:09] heh [01:09] might as well call a place 'Lazytown' [01:09] I was jsut there a week ago [01:09] slackville ftw [01:09] stillborn (n=stillbor@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff71c100-46.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [01:09] lol slackville awesome [01:10] briareus: do you live in a city atm? if so, which? [01:10] antler: I live in Scottsdale, attached to Phoenix, now the 5th largest metro area in the USA [01:10] too fscking big [01:10] and insanely hot [01:10] and ready to explode when the water shortages happen [01:10] which they will. [01:10] antler: That didn't change a thing. :P [01:10] briareus: hm, i like big cities. calgary seems too small for me. [01:11] antler: well, of course, it's fucking calgary [01:11] i prefer 4 - 5 million [01:11] Phoenix is currently >5M [01:11] and insanely hot [01:11] firebird619: that sucks. i dislike rendering issues [01:11] like skullbaking insanity hot [01:11] like stupid hot [01:12] denver is about right, but I still live in the burbs [01:12] you don't know hot until you've lived in humid hot [01:12] no longer very hot, and beyond extreme hot, but well into stupid hot. [01:12] antler: yeah, I do as well. [01:12] antler: oh but I have, I've lived in florida and humid texas and spent some time in new orleans [01:13] and phoenix is crazy hot over all of them. Phoenix is like standing in front of a full body hot air blower wearing a parka [01:13] antler: That Core X fonts doesn't make a diff either. [01:13] antler: I have a notion to backup, then remove all the .folders in /home and see if that helps at all. :P [01:13] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@default-ip-teleglobe.shellfusion.net) left irc: "changing servers" [01:13] gooph (n=gooph@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]" [01:14] firebird619: here's my .conf. not great, but it hasn't bothered me much, so.... http://pastebin.ca/1449427 [01:14] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@default-ip-teleglobe.shellfusion.net) joined ##slackware. [01:14] texas is humid? [01:14] Phoenix is like wearing your clothes for a week and being all sticky and stinky and then being caught in bed with your sister by a news crew with a camera kind of hot. [01:14] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.24.218) joined ##slackware. [01:14] yes, texas near New Braunfels and Kerrville and other hilly towns is crazy humid [01:15] heh, my grandfather used to call it "hot as two mice fscking in a wool mitten" [01:15] antler: k, brb [01:15] maddslacker: oh, that's hot [01:15] maddslacker: amen to grandpa's pornimagination [01:15] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [01:15] 8-/ [01:15] i've lived in humid and dry hot, they both suck [01:15] high altitude ftw [01:16] i prefer dry hot over wet hot [01:16] two mice in wool mitten kinda gets me hot right now. would they bite you if you put the mitten on? [01:16] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [01:16] maddslacker: agreed. Give me 9000ft New Mexico mountains over every place I have ever lived, but colorado towns around denver are a close second [01:17] antler: nope, nothin. [01:17] antler: know of a fancy one liner to backup all, and only hidden folders/files in /home? [01:17] firebird619: png your filebrowser [01:18] k, sec. [01:18] firebird619: no, i don't [01:18] give me the deepest darkest depths of HELL [01:18] briareus, yeah, I like NM too [01:18] I was mountain biking over slackville way yesterday [01:18] rawr [01:19] Hey antiwire [01:19] hello [01:19] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:20] i need to make a slackware64 iso [01:20] antler: http://imagebin.org/51597 and fwiw, here's pidgin irc: http://imagebin.org/51598 [01:21] briareus, its not too bad around New Braunfels most of the time, its bad in Houston all of the time [01:22] firebird619: full, med, or slight anti? [01:22] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) left irc: "meh" [01:23] pidgin looks pretty good there [01:23] antler: that's in xfce and set to full. [01:23] try med or slight [01:23] antler: yeah, pidgin looks good. [01:23] i like smooth; so slight's always my choice [01:23] antiwire, my charter is going 33% of what i pay for [01:24] it's charter [01:24] i'm wnodering if i should just get uverse [01:24] I'd get some local ISP before u-verse unless you really want tv or something [01:25] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:25] steelwolf180 (n=max@bb116-15-15-87.singnet.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [01:25] schpenke (n=schpenke@cpe-66-25-50-212.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: "[BX] *PHEAR MY BITCHX-NESS!* BOW TO ME!" [01:25] I don't have a land line and don't need tv so cable internet feed only is fine [01:26] antler: pidgin now: http://imagebin.org/51599 [01:26] firebird619: oh sexy :D [01:26] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.23.198) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:26] i dont want tv [01:26] opera now: http://imagebin.org/51600 [01:26] i just dont want to use their gateway [01:27] firebird619: it might just be me, but i like that way better [01:27] (opera) [01:27] u-verse is tv/internet and phone. why don't you just get at&t dsl if you don't need tv and don't want charter? [01:27] looks less pixelated and granular [01:27] yeah, looks a little better. [01:27] bbiab [01:28] or find a local DSL provider [01:28] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.69.195) joined ##slackware. [01:28] antiwire, cause dsl is 6 megs [01:29] and? [01:29] how bad is charter then [01:29] there are places in the world you're lucky to find anything broadband-ish [01:29] really...wtf do you do? [01:29] that skank paris hilton looks hot in this george lopez episode [01:30] ali0t4 (n=ali0t4@123.112.54.151) joined ##slackware. [01:30] charter is bad every night [01:30] oh yeah you transfer pr0n0 to czech servers on a 6gbps line right [01:30] i keep forgetting that part [01:30] when kde 4.2.4 will be added in slackware-current? [01:32] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [01:32] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:33] well, well, well, if it isn't french idol Camarade_Tux [01:33] antler, hehe, yeah 8-) [01:33] how is it going ? =) [01:34] welp...g'nite all [01:34] good, man. you? [01:34] maddslacker (n=corey@c-24-9-181-130.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:34] antler, good as well :) [01:35] I went to bed before 10pm and had a bit more than 9 hours of sleep :) [01:35] and just a few minutes ago, there were drunk people knocking on my door, guess they haven't slept yet ;p [01:35] drunk people are like zombies [01:36] let them in only if they're hot and there's going to be funny stuff [01:36] if you see some in the hallway and you make noise and they notice you, they instantly start walking towards you [01:36] and if they think you're in your dorm room, they knock and claw at it [01:37] wdyy (n=yy@123.80.26.86) left irc: "‚»" [01:37] well, afaict, they'll enjoy their saturday :D (they'll probably go to bed by 1pm ^^) [01:37] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [01:37] Hey Camarade_Tux, how's it going? [01:38] not from home antiwire. [01:38] I don't think I knew them, I think the guy just randomly knocked at my door (I'm still rather naked so I didn't open them) [01:38] firebird619, hi, nice, thanks, and you ? [01:38] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:38] Camarade_Tux: um, thanks for sharing that? :P [01:38] doing great, thanks. Just messing with font stuff. [01:38] antler, want some pics ? :D [01:39] Camarade_Tux: tempting as that sounds, i'll pass, but firebird619 would love some :P [01:39] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:39] antler: WHAT?!? speak for yourself. :P [01:41] so you're not going to click on that NSFW NSFW NSFW NSFW NSFW http://gallery.photo.net/photo/6658678-lg.jpg SFW NSFW NSFW NSFW NSFW ? [01:41] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:41] :D [01:41] lol [01:41] oupsy, posted a pic of the girlfriend >< [01:41] Action: antler crosses his fingers and hopes that '1g' stands for '1 girl' [01:41] lol [01:42] that's a lowercase L actually ;) [01:42] maybe "lots of girls" ;p [01:42] antler: I'm gonna boot to osol and ss that and show ya for comparison. :) [01:42] firebird619: osol looks beautiful in general. everything. the theme. the fonts. yeah [01:42] Camarade_Tux: He can only handle one, as he said the other day, he only has one antler. [01:43] haha [01:43] ha, poor antler =/ [01:43] Camarade_Tux: indeed [01:43] oh well [01:43] not our problem. :P [01:44] antler: out of the box, osol uses Helvitica. [01:44] not only one, just only one at a time [01:44] her feet look dirty [01:44] looks like the floor wasn't dirty [01:44] anyway, brb. [01:44] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [01:44] i mean was [01:44] well, I had planned to send lots of girls (or men) to every channel member when I get rich, I'll note to only send one to antler >< [01:45] send the men to TwinReverb. he's into that sorta thing [01:45] well, I rather had nix_chix0r in mind but that should be doable ;p [01:46] i'm not into that thing at all [01:46] i'd rather slit my own throat than be into that kind of thing 8-/ [01:47] that's heavy [01:47] hmmm, yeah [01:48] why not slit *their* throat ? [01:48] whoa! [01:48] because some people in here may be into necrophilia and i don't want them saying "your mom!" or something stupid [01:49] Yeah, I don't do 'your mom' jokes. [01:50] I think the official channel urmom'er is probably asleep [01:50] hmmm, another drunken guy outside [01:50] "your mom" jokes are the absolute low of stupid jokes [01:51] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.92.220) joined ##slackware. [01:51] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434428.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:53] george lopez show is fuckin funny [01:53] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-144-254.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:53] dkerschner (n=dkerschn@65.101.144.42) left ##slackware. [01:53] i liked it when my lovers would play dead. does that count as pseudo-necrophilia? [01:54] anyone have a link to that slackware-mirror script ? [01:55] nevermind [01:55] alienBOB, you there man ? [01:55] he's been idle 7 hours so that's about enough time for him to be away [01:55] antler, only one way to be sure : go dig out so corpse and try >< [01:55] i couldn't last. [01:56] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:57] hmmm, crappy weather, the perfect week-end to code :) [01:58] wet snow here. cold. perfect for staying in with the family [01:58] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [01:58] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [01:59] family's 500km away [01:59] so I'll probably be staying with my adoption family : beer >< [01:59] Camarade_Tux: not married yet? [02:00] antler, I'm 21 ;) [02:01] and no fresh milk in the fridge ! ='( [02:01] ali0t4 (n=ali0t4@123.112.54.151) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:01] oh, so you're a youngster and youngsters don't get married. :P [02:02] antler: if they are wise they won't [02:02] haha [02:02] antler, he, when did you get married ? [02:02] and stillborn++ ;) [02:03] who would sex up fran dreisehcer [02:03] or whatever [02:03] from her stupid tv show [02:03] Camarade_Tux: i married late relative to other males of my tribe. 14. [02:03] jeev, eek ! [02:04] im asking, i didnt say i would [02:04] i'd fark george lopezes wife on her tv show [02:04] and the daughter when she's legal [02:04] loll [02:04] antler, yeah, that's what I had guessed considering your sexual problems -_- [02:04] Offtopic, what does /usr stand for? user, unix system resource, user system resource ? [02:05] Camarade_Tux: o_0 [02:05] unix system rocks [02:05] axius (n=axius@92.82.93.41) joined ##slackware. [02:05] :) [02:06] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [02:06] antler :D [02:07] ooooo fran is pretty hot [02:07] I find her ugly [02:07] i can just imagine that when she has sex and has an orgasm, she'll do her funky laugh [02:07] Action: TwinReverb tries the freeze-dried squid a friend gave to him [02:08] Fri Jun 5 23:00:34 PDT 2009 [18985]: ChangeLog.txt has been updated, starting mirror of slackware64-current. [02:08] Fri Jun 5 23:08:32 PDT 2009 [18985]: Done! [02:08] fresh download lol [02:08] download + build the 64bit iso's in 8 min, god i love fast internet [02:08] antler, well, yeah, pretty hot body but I don't like her face/mimics [02:08] jeev, good ping ? [02:08] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [02:09] [02:09] 25ms [02:10] yep, quite nice :) [02:10] http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1660/483132961.png that fast jeev ? [02:10] Camarade_Tux: my dream woman. i've posted this before: http://getmeawayfromhere.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/grace_jones_99.jpg [02:11] LOL filezilla got my ass fail2ban'd on my box [02:11] antiwire, ugh. i just lost my appetite [02:11] what? [02:12] sorry, missed tab completion [02:12] heret|c, i get that from charter.. i get 33meg sometimes, i max out the piece of crap docsis [02:12] SOMETIMES. [02:12] antler, not antwire [02:12] on my hax0red cable mode [02:12] modem [02:12] hey now let's all start using 4 characters for auto complete :D [02:12] heret|c: hahah [02:12] jeev, how you hack your modem? [02:12] easily [02:12] what modem do you have [02:12] it's a motorola. give me a minute and i'll get the model [02:12] http://192.168.100.1 [02:13] Software Version: SB5120-2.19.0.12-SCM03-NOSH [02:13] oh [02:13] i dunno, 5100's, 5101's and other ones [02:13] you clone other people's mac and shit, charter you can add a 0/0 config, it'll do max the node will allow [02:13] but their network sucks for even my legit one [02:16] Hey guys anyone know of some good imagine software? Perferably free. :) [02:16] imagine software? [02:17] imagine :) [02:17] imaging software [02:17] Hey lf4 [02:17] "dd" [02:17] How's it going? [02:17] Its going alright just at work again :P [02:17] How are things with you firebird619 ? [02:18] things are great, thanks. What, do you live at work? :P [02:18] disk images? or picture images? [02:18] firebird619: Something like that :) haha I work grave shift 23:00-08:00 Monday-Friday [02:18] tank-man: disk [02:18] dd is one [02:19] dd will work with windows? (I'm at work and want to create an image of this one laptop to use on the other 5. [02:20] i had used a dd for windows. [02:20] jeev: Alright I'll look in to it. [02:20] yea [02:21] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [02:21] firebird619: you in osol? [02:21] hi [02:22] antler: yes. http://imagebin.org/51605 (pidgin) http://imagebin.org/51606 (opera) and http://imagebin.org/51607 (firefox) [02:22] you might need more than "dd" if all those laptops are on same windows network [02:22] antler: opera doesn't look as good in osol as I remembered, but oh well. :P [02:23] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:24] firebird619: from what i can see, the pics of xfce in slack were nicer after the antialias change :P [02:24] nicer than osol? [02:25] note : don't send your teach a link to pornhub when you actually mean github >< [02:25] yeah, from what i can see, firebird619 [02:25] Camarade_Tux: hahahahahaha [02:25] Camarade_Tux: hahaha [02:26] antler: I agree that slack looks better than it did after that change. [02:26] gitnekkidhub? [02:27] firebird619: do you have vlc working in osol? [02:27] antler: no, haven't messed with it at all. [02:27] gah ! git: builtin-mv.c:216: cmd_mv: Assertion `pos >= 0' failed., noooo, don't fsck up my repository ! [02:28] Camarade_Tux: you fail. :P [02:28] antler, firebird619 antialias change? [02:29] gah, the repo isn't very reliable right now =/ [02:29] hopefully I had just git push'ed, I'll just grab the backup ;) [02:29] TwinReverb: Yeah, in slackware my fonts aren't as good as they could be, so I changed from full to slight and it made a nice improvement. [02:29] Camarade_Tux: so you hope. ;) [02:30] in speed or looks [02:30] looks [02:31] i noticed a speed and memory usage improvement when/if you change all fonts to the same couple (2-3) fonts [02:31] like in all programs specify which font to use etc [02:31] i did that on my more minimal laptop and it worked good [02:31] yeah, I usually use all the same font for stuff, DejaVu fonts. [02:31] firebird619, actually it didn't damage the repo so I was able to just 'fix' it ;) [02:31] Camarade_Tux: thank goodness. [02:31] Action: TwinReverb prefers the Liberation family but it's all good [02:32] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434428.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:32] I really like the Liberation family as well, but I notice a bit of a nice improvement with DejaVu over Liberation, especially in browsers. [02:32] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434428.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:33] antler: It's opera in osol that uses helvitica out of the box, no wonder it looks bad right now. :P [02:33] Nick change: xdan779 -> a [02:33] Nick change: a -> xdan779 [02:33] I need a 'sans' font, I don't like others, and dejavu fonts are nice :) [02:34] liberation has a mono, sans, and serif variety [02:34] and opera in osol default web page text is Bitstream Charter 9 [02:34] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.92.220) left irc: "leaving" [02:35] for those of us coming to the party late... what's osol? (only guess I have is opensolaris, you're not running that now are you?) [02:35] OpenSolaris [02:36] I am on that atm, yes. [02:36] neat [02:36] like it? [02:36] yes, very much so. [02:36] osol 09.06 was just released this past Monday. [02:36] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [02:36] firebird619: ah [02:37] antler: oh :P [02:37] i'll stick with my gentoo thanks [02:37] haha [02:37] what's a gentoo [02:37] eulerphi (n=euler@201.124.129.95) joined ##slackware. [02:38] antler: I'm fixin opera fonts in osol to see the difference. [02:38] hey guys :) [02:38] a gentoo is the fastest/smartest known breed of penguin [02:38] hey guy [02:38] :P [02:38] i'm new [02:38] heret|c: you know you're saying that in ##slackware, right? ;) [02:38] firebird619, yeah? i fully support slackware [02:39] i also prefer a more custom linux build for myself [02:39] That'd be sweet if there was a slackware penguin, not a mascot, an actual live breed of penguin. :P [02:39] heret|c: heh i actually did know it was a penguin [02:39] i still install slackware on everyone elses computers [02:39] I tried gentoo in a vm once, x crashed on me all the time. [02:40] Decoy- (n=Decoy@rrcs-70-63-108-15.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:40] firebird619, never have any crashes here [02:40] heret|c: Yeah, I don't know what happened. [02:40] about half-tempted to try to build a slackware system with an opensolaris kernel [02:41] Urchlay, does opensolaris do anything to the kernel code ? [02:41] probly be a lot of work, and both the slackware and opensolaris communities would hate it [02:41] what the ./configure option "--disable-static" really does ? [02:41] eh? AFAIK, opensolaris uses a solaris kernel (not a Linux kernel) [02:41] sorry for my english [02:41] Urchlay, ahh. learn something every day [02:42] Thom1: it keeps the build process from building any static libraries (usually the ones whose names end in .a) [02:43] Urchlay, this option a good choice for a lib ? [02:43] normally, yes [02:43] ok, thanks :) [02:44] be aware that some broken configure/automake scripts will ignore --disable-static [02:44] yeah, fresh milk ! \o/ [02:45] Urchlay, yes, ok [02:45] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:45] antler: http://imagebin.org/51608 [02:45] firebird619: apparently your adblock isn't working [02:45] Urchlay: don't have it installed atm. [02:46] For opera, it's AdSweep. [02:46] for me, adblock is high-priority [02:48] firebird619: not bad pretty nice :D [02:48] antler: That's DejaVu. :) [02:48] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:49] Action: antler likes sans [02:49] antler: Now where's all your ss's. :) [02:50] Whoa, anybody seen google's home page? [02:50] my Schutzstaffel? [02:50] err, huh? :P [02:51] heh [02:51] antler: I meant screenshots, whavever you said there sounds more like something not to be shown in public. :P [02:51] tetris turned 25 years old [02:51] yay [02:51] antler's got a license plate that says HEILME [02:52] Urchlay: hahah [02:52] donito (n=dshuff@cpe-98-28-236-229.woh.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [02:52] hm, that's as good an excuse as any to play a game of tetris... [02:52] firebird619: i don't have any, but i can probably squeeze a few through my sphincter muscles [02:52] antler: eh, nah, I'll pass. [02:53] You're lazy, remember, that'd be to much work. ;0 [02:53] ;) [02:54] Urchlay: This better: http://imagebin.org/51609 [02:56] Wow it got quiet, I could hear a pin drop. :D [02:56] steelwolf180 (n=max@bb116-15-15-87.singnet.com.sg) left ##slackware. [02:57] dangit i am having issues finding out how to make mencoder use an mp3 for audio background to a video slide show i'm trying to generate [02:57] what's the toolbar at the top called, right under file|edit|view|etc? [02:57] DenNOLA (n=Dennis@173.5.126.46) joined ##slackware. [02:57] that thing's friggin' huuuge [02:57] Urchlay: That's the visual tabs, it can be resized or disabled completely. [02:58] firebird619: hm, the screenie i just took is 3.3 megs, and imagebin doesn't accept files >1mg [02:58] antler: tinypic.com or imgur.com [02:59] DenNOLA (n=Dennis@173.5.126.46) left irc: Client Quit [02:59] it got quiet cause we all went to play Tetris? [02:59] Vivatma (n=vsu@119.7.178.15) joined ##slackware. [02:59] hello, is thr any boot.iso to install slackware64 online ? [02:59] omploader.org is nice too [02:59] Urchlay: http://imagebin.org/51611 [02:59] Vivatma, no official iso for slackware64 that's aware of [02:59] you can make your own however [03:00] mk the iso my self , right ? [03:00] firebird619, your menu bar font is awful [03:00] firebird619: heh you can't really see the fonts here (tinypic.com) http://i39.tinypic.com/15grxxl.png [03:01] Camarade_Tux: yeah, I know, they weren't a little bit ago, I don't know what happened. :P [03:01] (my wife is the one watching the movie, NOT me :) [03:01] there won't be an official iso until 13.0 is released [03:01] when do you think 13.0 out ? [03:01] antler: sure she is. :P [03:02] Vivatma, there are some script that automate that (download+iso), but basically, download with rsync (or whatever you like) and read isolinux/README.TXT or usb-and-pxe-installers/README_USB.TXT [03:02] heheh 'love actually' [03:02] antler: nice ss though, I can sort of see the font good enough. [03:02] firebird619, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ! you're under gnome ! bah ! [03:02] Camarade_Tux, I just need a boot.iso, I think it is small [03:02] Mashandar (n=ben@CPE-121-219-252-169.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [03:03] Camarade_Tux: in osol, yes. I haven't got xfce or kde installed. [03:03] hey everyone [03:03] Camarade_Tux: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/kde/ :D [03:03] Hi Mashandar [03:04] hello firebird619 [03:04] lame. I only got to level 7 on tetris :( [03:04] how is everyone? [03:04] great, thanks. yourself? [03:04] Vivatma, I never made any (I use the usb boot for that purpose) but you can basically make one by making a dvd iso without the source/, slackware/, pasture/ and testing/ folders [03:04] hi Mashandar :) [03:05] Urchlay: which game mode you under? [03:05] urmm, just copy the bootable file from the DVD and make the ISO ? [03:05] right ? [03:05] firebird619: I'm good [03:05] lol, tetris.com doesn't work for me to play, I don't have any plugins installed. :P [03:06] brb, gonna log back in to slack for tonight. [03:06] firebird619: install them! [03:06] firebird619: arcade Tetris by Atari (mame atetris ROM), with default dipswitch settings [03:06] cool [03:07] icarus: NO. I'm in OpenSolaris, I don't want to install them. [03:07] oh arcade tetris kicks the dalai lama's ass [03:07] firebird619: the logic? [03:07] the one with actual breaks in between the levels (never liked the nintendo-style never-ending tetris) [03:07] icarus: simple, I CHOOSE not to. [03:07] firebird619: by the way, how is opensolaris? [03:07] It's great [03:07] firebird619: i keep wanting to test it [03:07] using it in virtualbox just doesn't cut it with some things [03:08] antler: I especially like the music [03:08] I have it installed to a 40 GB hdd. [03:08] firebird619: yeah, ive got a spare 40 gig hd that i have tinyXP on, which i never use [03:08] i just might try it [03:08] next to NetBSD [03:08] get rid of xp, install osol and be free. :) [03:09] firebird619: whats so great about opensolarius [03:09] just answer me one thing, can i run openbox [03:09] Urchlay: you're playing in slack? you mentioned rom, i think [03:09] I hear MS is going to do a version of windows based on BSD, kinda like MacOSX... they're going to call it NetBSOD [03:09] firebird619, just use bare openbox :) [03:09] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [03:09] antler: yeah, sdlmame package from SBo on slack64 [03:09] icarus: I'm not sure about openbox, I know you can install KDE and xfce. [03:10] Urchlay: oh that's cool [03:10] Camarade_Tux: lol, I tried openbox the other day, it crashed. [03:10] firebird619, he : http://blog.lxde.org/?p=357 =P [03:10] Camarade_Tux: Do you use it in conjunction with kde or anything, or just plain, pure openbox? [03:10] I've no idea where I originally got the tetris ROM from (about once a year I go a-rom-hunting) [03:11] Camarade_Tux: Sweeet, thanks for the link. [03:11] firebird619: xfce will do [03:11] icarus: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/xfce/ [03:12] firebird619, I use pure openbox, nothing else :D [03:12] antler: look at these, they look nice: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/desktop/communities/lxde/lxde.png [03:12] I think a comment of mine (and some other comments) triggered this blog post : http://blog.lxde.org/?p=361 [03:12] Camarade_Tux: I would have tried it, but it crashed. [03:12] "If you don’t like to be forced to use gnome standards, please join xdg mailing list." [03:12] firebird619, afaict, the porting is quite recent [03:12] antler: if you do install SBo's sdlmame package, let me know how you like the man page (it took me an hour or more...) [03:13] Camarade_Tux: cool [03:13] for sure now, brb. :D [03:13] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [03:13] Urchlay, http://www.theoldcomputer.com < plenty of roms [03:14] actually no it didn't, maybe an hour to do all the mame-related man pages though (including finding out WTF those weird little utilities even are) [03:14] Urchlay: oh you maintain it? [03:14] yah [03:14] oh cool [03:14] the slackbuild, not actual sdlmame itself [03:15] yeah, that's what i meant to ask [03:16] How to switch between fluxbox and kde? [03:16] xwmconfig [03:16] How to switch between fluxbox and kde from the console? [03:16] hm. Apparently I'm maintainer of 25% of the games category at SBo... I didn't know that [03:16] axius, or edit your ~/.xinitrc [03:16] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:16] Urchlay: oh i just realised that it's a port of mame, something i used to like very much [03:17] Urchlay: yay! the old galaga! [03:17] yeah, Galaga still rules [03:17] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [03:17] back. :D [03:17] now i gotta find the old roms i had when i ran mame in win95 [03:17] actually those old roms are mostly not going to work [03:17] k, that's not good [03:18] lot of the mame drivers didn't fully emulate everything back then, so the dumps didn't include the code for the unemulated bits [03:18] antler: opera in kde: http://imagebin.org/51612 [03:20] firebird619: is it me, or does that look better than all previous? [03:20] firebird619, asked on #openbox about osol support, now waiting for someone to answer ;p [03:20] It looks better [03:20] Camarade_Tux: cool [03:20] Camarade_Tux: on slack, openbox crashes back to login screen almost as soon as I login to it. [03:20] firebird619, not on gnome anymore, better -_- [03:21] firebird619, on slack ? [03:21] yes, on slackware, openbox crashes [03:21] in KDE right now. [03:21] antler: btw, that is WITHOUT any antialiasing or anything set. [03:21] has anyone tried that chromium dev build? [03:21] heh, i tried installing slackware64-current on a 2 gig partition with a 20 gig swap.. dumb shit [03:21] virtualbox looks good so far [03:21] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:22] Action: Camarade_Tux thought you were on osol, or did you reboot ? [03:22] huh [03:22] Camarade_Tux: I reboot. :P [03:22] jeev, haha :p [03:22] firebird619, ok, I thought you had only logged off and on ;) [03:22] firebird619, where did you get openbox from for slackware ? [03:22] Camarade_Tux: Let me know if you get an answer there, I'll be up about another half an hour or so tonight yet. [03:23] Camarade_Tux: sbo [03:23] firebird619, probably not tonight but I'll tell you tonight (for me ;) ) [03:23] firebird619: from what i remember, 3.5.10 has a bug that doesn't allow the user to change antialias settings via the control centre [03:23] firebird619, which version is it ? 3.4.7.2 ? [03:23] antler: Well, I just did it. I don't notice any difference though. [03:24] Camarade_Tux: yup, 3.4.7.2 [03:24] firebird619: really? yours in not greyed out? [03:24] antler: no [03:24] I always thought lxde was on sbo, I guess I was wrong. :P [03:25] I think that's alien-BOB who has a slackbuild but I'm not sure [03:25] Camarade_Tux: ah yeah, that's where I seen it I bet. [03:25] Action: firebird619 looks [03:25] firebird619, have you tried using openbox instead of openbox-session in xwmconfig ? [03:25] firebird619: are you sure? "use sub-pixel hinting" in control centre / appearance and themes / fonts / configure ? [03:25] kde 3.5.10? [03:25] Camarade_Tux: Ah, no I haven't. [03:25] antler: yup, kde 3.5.10 [03:26] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:26] firebird619, very wild guess [03:27] antler: check out konqueror fonts: http://imagebin.org/51613 [03:28] antler: http://imagebin.org/51614 [03:28] Camarade_Tux: I'll try that in a sec here. [03:28] konqueror looks so nice ^^ [03:28] Camarade_Tux: you were right, alienBOB has lxde. Thank you alienBOB. :) [03:29] Camarade_Tux: yeah, doesn't it though. :) [03:29] haha, noticed the sub-pixel hinting, that would be awful for my eyes though [03:29] (although it's slight there) [03:30] firebird619: yeah, konq's nice.... stick with kde! hahaha [03:30] lol [03:30] antler: you see the second link? [03:31] firebird619: that is sooo weird, my sub-pixel is greyed out--i can still use hinting, just not from there [03:31] yeah, i like it [03:31] antler: you're doing it wrong. :P [03:31] way better than the flux and xfce screenies (as far as the fonts go, anyway) [03:32] yeah [03:32] like I said, I'll probably try backing up then removing the .folders and see if that fixes anything. [03:32] firebird619: yeah, i dunno. i can't enable subpixel from control centre. i gotta do it in the .font.config [03:33] is subpixel similar to hinting? [03:33] RGB hinting? [03:34] oh dang you guys alreay talked about that [03:35] lol [03:35] antiwire: do you have silky smooth fonts? :P [03:35] i disable hinting [03:35] i really dislike it [03:36] you weirdo, you [03:36] those ss's above are without hinting. [03:36] SS officers are the type that can never take a hint anyway [03:36] lol [03:37] If 12.2 had KDE4, I'd probably for sure be on that. [03:37] hahah [03:38] gaaaah! [03:38] what? :P [03:38] that's like the 4th time in a row I've ran out of shotgun ammo and got auto-switched to the rocket launcher, and blown myself up with it [03:38] hahahaha [03:39] what level? [03:39] the prison level... E1L23 [03:39] antiwire, yeah, subpixel-rendering == rgb hinting [03:39] er, E1L3 [03:39] http://tinypic.com/r/2md5lw2/5 [03:39] there that's what my fonts look like [03:39] on "come get some" difficulty [03:40] antiwire: that looks very nice, what font/font size? [03:40] that's a lot smoother than what I have. [03:40] Liberation Sans 11 [03:40] Action: firebird619 gives that a try. [03:40] antiwire: and that's what you have set in pidgin, right? [03:40] firebird619, running with which color depth ? [03:41] firebird619: yeah [03:41] for openbox that is [03:41] Camarade_Tux: not sure, how do I check? My xorg is 24 iirc. [03:41] antiwire, wow, blurry [03:41] Camarade_Tux: click it, it's not blurry. [03:41] Camarade_Tux: you're clicking the image..right? [03:42] it's not blurry [03:42] antiwire, no >< :D [03:42] k, brb. [03:42] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [03:42] yeah, anti-aliasing :) [03:42] but as much as I like anti-aliasing, I dislike sub-pixel hinting [03:42] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [03:42] back [03:43] I'm using the latest nvidia driver on kde4 in current, AA is enabled hinting disabled [03:43] firebird619, and you could try running 'openbox --replace' in a terminal to get some output from openbox :) [03:43] Oh wow, that's much better, thanks antiwire [03:43] i'm about to do my slackware64-current system right now [03:43] about to login, with virtualbox. [03:43] Action: jeev has an erection [03:43] antiwire: i like that [03:43] cant wait to see [03:43] run for cover ! [03:44] firebird619: ever since they added the liberation fonts I've been using them [03:44] Camarade_Tux: ok, thanks. I'll maybe mess with that tomorrow, it's getting late (or early, depending on how you look at it) here. :) [03:44] antiwire: cool. It looks great now. [03:44] yay [03:45] antiwire: http://imagebin.org/51615 [03:45] yeah looks good [03:45] a lot better than before [03:46] like 10 fold better. :D [03:46] is there some kind of tetris day today? [03:46] yes, 25th anniversary of tetris [03:46] national 'not right now lumberg i'm busy' day [03:47] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "working on a few things." [03:48] eww, my virtualbox set up crashed [03:48] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-176-112.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [03:49] Hey frullet, how goes it? [03:49] firebird619: doing well, yourself [03:49] doing great, thanks. How's the logitech wave workin? [03:50] firebird619: yeh pretty well, finally getting used to it [03:50] antler: haha, speaking of fonts: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3395/3598658287_272763aeee_b.jpg [03:50] frullet: Newegg had a recertified one today as the shell shocker for $19.99. [03:51] firebird619: oh nice [03:51] I didn't get one, but that was sure cheap. [03:52] should have picked it up, well worth it [03:52] that's awesome [03:52] firebird619, hahaha :p [03:52] bad fonts really make things rough [03:52] frullet: yeah, but I have a bunch of keyboards already. :P [03:53] polatov (n=polatov@88.204.253.112) joined ##slackware. [03:54] Action: heret|c only has his logitech G11 [03:54] WOW, http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/06/photogalleries/new-cloud-pictures/photo2.html [03:54] firebird619, what was the problem with newegg ? [03:55] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [03:56] Camarade_Tux: There weren't any problems that I know of. You mean with the Logitech keyboards? [03:56] anyone remember the game, tyrian? [03:56] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:57] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [03:57] firebird619, probably, the "thing" with the price ? [03:59] lol, everyday newegg has a shellshocker deal at a reduced (sometimes significantly) price, today it was a Logitech Wave wired keyboard (a recertified one). I'm not sure why the keyboard was recertified (what was wrong with it at one time.) [03:59] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:59] This is awesome: http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4576/gifbinangeldecoy.gif [04:00] Vivatma (n=vsu@119.7.178.15) left ##slackware ("Back to Real Life"). [04:00] counter measures [04:00] http://imagebin.org/51616 ;/ [04:00] errrror [04:01] firebird619: hahah [04:01] jeev: change the driver that your vm uses [04:01] virtualbox lets me ? [04:01] KVM lets me select between a few different drivers [04:01] shit i failed to mention that it locked up [04:01] virtualbox sounds like a pile [04:02] it's cool [04:02] i see more people on here having problems than it just working [04:02] i wish it'd work though [04:02] really? [04:02] i dont want to use vmware man [04:02] it's too hoggy [04:02] KVM for me...that is if you have the hardware support [04:02] jeev, bad color depth afaict [04:03] lol, optimizing elevator usage: http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6976/elevator.jpg [04:03] i dunno, kvm what [04:03] kvm does 24bits afaik so you need to set your driver/wm accordingly [04:03] why would i need a kvm. i want to use it like it's on my system [04:03] ;/ [04:04] ... [04:04] kernel virtual machine... [04:04] not the hardware switch [04:04] firebird619, haha, sixth floor ;p [04:04] in this case, kvm != keyboard, video, mouse. [04:04] antiwire, ^^ [04:04] Camarade_Tux: ? [04:04] Camarade_Tux: yeah, and notice that sign is INSIDE the elevator, so whoever is already in the elevator. :P [04:04] I'm not having any issues why are you telling me this? [04:05] anyway, sleep time [04:05] good night [04:05] antiwire, about the hardware switch ;) [04:05] oh [04:05] firebird619, lol :p [04:08] firebird619, it's 2 a.m. for you, right ? shouldn't you be sleeping ? ;p [04:08] lol, Google captcha thing: http://imgur.com/boeRg.jpg [04:08] Camarade_Tux: even worse. 03:26. I gotta get going. :P [04:09] you're in a +30mins timezone ? :P [04:09] lol [04:09] I'm in CST timezone. Midwest USA. [04:10] oops, cdt. Sat Jun 6 03:27:57 CDT 2009 [04:10] looks like you need to sync time [04:10] antiwire: yeah, it's off again. [04:11] wasn't it ntpdate? Ugh, I can't remember. [04:11] ntpdate pool.ntp.org && hwclock --systohc [04:12] then you'll be all synced up everywhere [04:12] k, thanks [04:13] Sat Jun 6 03:12:48 CDT 2009 that's better [04:13] hehe, now, go to bed :D [04:13] yep [04:13] I hadn't ran that for a while obviously. [04:13] chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.ntpd ? [04:13] Camarade_Tux: I already have that executable. [04:14] My paranoid self would rather do it manually and keep the extra service disabled for my laptop [04:14] Camarade_Tux: whoops, I guess I don't. :P [04:15] Anyway, I do have to get going. Have a good morning/afternoon/evening everyone. Take care. [04:15] see you :) [04:15] see ya Camarade_Tux [04:15] later antiwire [04:15] see ya [04:15] bye antler, wherever ya ran off to [04:16] ezgumol (n=jk@dsl-olubrasgw1-fe42fb00-24.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [04:16] have a nice one firebird619 :) [04:16] thanks, you too plee [04:16] :) [04:16] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night"). [04:17] polatov (n=polatov@88.204.253.112) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:22] I'm so stoked. after all this time I've finally started figuring out the 'AMP' in LAMP. I think the hard part is going to be the artsy part of layout and design [04:22] I'm figuring out the php and mysql parts already but it's just a plain-text, test site [04:22] no prettiness yet [04:23] yeah, frozen bubble time ! [04:25] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: "leaving" [04:28] axius (n=axius@92.82.93.41) left irc: Client Quit [04:29] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:30] SiegeX_iPh (n=SiegeX@32.156.95.243) joined ##slackware. [04:31] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "()" [04:32] SiegeX_iPh (n=SiegeX@32.156.95.243) left irc: Client Quit [04:35] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [04:38] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-169-238.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:45] does anyone know if ext3 partitions are readable from windows by default? [04:45] No. [04:45] Well, yes. [04:45] Windows knows that it's a partition. [04:46] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [04:46] However, Windows does not have an ext filesystem driver for reading it. [04:46] so when you access it you see...what? nothing? or []'s? [04:48] you won't see it in 'My Computer' [04:49] ah ok [04:49] if I'm not mistaken there is a program out there that lets you mount it in windows.. [04:50] the fs-driver [04:50] but im asking without any additional stuff added [04:50] a vanilla windows installation [04:51] then no [04:51] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-190.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [04:57] Anakin (n=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [04:59] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:00] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.17.69) joined ##slackware. [05:00] DeeeeP_ (n=ngomes@bl8-71-219.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. 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[05:30] steppenwolfii (n=root@86-46-218-42-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:35] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [05:42] quiet tonight [05:48] yeah [05:50] grazymax (n=grazymax@host184-152-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:51] heret|c (n=heretic@c-24-30-117-194.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:55] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:56] like in debian, you have laptop-mode and other power-saving options.. is there something similar in slackware, or is this something that has to be done manually [05:56] ? [05:56] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:58] laptop-mode is in SBo IIRC, so is cpufrequtils [05:58] none of them is part of Slackware [05:58] hmm weird laptop-mode is not in SBo [06:00] yeah, just noticed :) [06:00] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:01] brb [06:01] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: "Leaving" [06:02] down_fall (n=down_fal@124.148.46.158) joined ##slackware. [06:02] Plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [06:02] SBo has become a monster over the years [06:02] there is quite the amount of packages :) [06:03] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-148-60.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [06:04] s/packages/SlackBuilds/ ;) [06:04] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-83-177.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:08] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[06:35] Anakin (n=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [06:37] agentc0re: if you can get your hands on it, grab a case of tooheys new white stag ( not sure if you get australian beers in the US ) [06:43] Attempting to compile VLC 08/6b -- it can't find ffmpeg/avcodec.h but avcodec.h exists in both directories /bin and /usr/local/share/ffmpeg -- So does anyone know where I should put avcodec.h so that the VLC .configure can find it please? [06:44] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:44] wait, why does avcodec.h exist in /bin (or /usr/bin ?) [06:44] ? [06:45] make instaall put it there [06:46] you should use slackbuilds instead, I used to install by hand and things get pretty dirty [06:47] can you refer me to a slackbuild please [06:47] http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [06:47] tnx - will give it a go [06:48] btw - I know how to run slackbuilds, [06:49] actually I was looking for : http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/vlc/build/ [06:49] tnx [06:50] download everything and run the vlc.SlackBuild [06:50] will do [06:52] moh2a (n=mohaa@89.16.14.222) joined ##slackware. [07:00] lf4 (n=KJR@71.199.22.31) joined ##slackware. [07:02] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [07:02] Mashandar (n=ben@CPE-121-219-252-169.vic.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:03] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:05] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.72.228) left irc: Nick collision from services. [07:05] Nick change: moh2a -> mohaa [07:05] Plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:06] Giacomo (n=Shamar@host150-210-dynamic.40-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:06] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:07] hello chan anyone know the Giacomo is operator here? [07:07] Build running now [07:08] Action: agentc0re is the Giacomo operator [07:08] ok... [07:09] Anybody on free.fr [like for an ISP] ?? [07:09] YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!! [07:09] lool :-D [07:09] ok... [07:09] s/lool/tool = Giacomo [07:09] I was tring to understand if this nick was taken [07:09] inconnu, you won't find many french people here (unfortunately) why ? [07:09] Camarade_Tux: Because they give up too easily? [07:09] Nick change: Giacomo -> Shamar [07:10] Da Froggies _hate_ eengleesh [07:10] agentc0re, nah, they're selfish and all-knowing, therefore they don't connect to an irc support channel -_- [07:11] sorry agentc0re... I didn't want to thief your nick [07:11] ezgumol (n=jk@dsl-olubrasgw1-fe42fb00-24.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:11] Shamar, freenode will tell you if the nick you're using is already registered [07:12] and your use of 'operator' seemed wrong to me ;) [07:12] yes, but as far as I can remember I regestered this nick some years ago... [07:12] hahaha :p [07:12] but then I left freenode for some year... [07:13] so I can't say if I was thieving my nick to myself... :-D [07:13] paul424 (i=1000@156.17.165.242) joined ##slackware. [07:13] Or it was taken for inactivity from someone else [07:14] I was gone 9 months onetime and my nick was still good [07:14] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.75.254) joined ##slackware. [07:14] Camarade_Tux_ (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:15] Nick change: Camarade_Tux_ -> Giacomo [07:15] Giacomo (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [07:15] yes... but I can not remember the password... :-D [07:16] Shamar: No i am not Italian. sorry. [07:16] i also didn' [07:16] GAH! [07:16] i didn't steal you nick. [07:16] I was screwing with you. [07:17] I have been up for 6-7 more hours than i should be. I have been brewing beer all night long. [07:20] Axius (n=samyw@92.82.93.41) joined ##slackware. [07:20] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.75.254) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:22] Axius (n=samyw@92.82.93.41) left irc: Client Quit [07:26] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.75.250) joined ##slackware. [07:27] umm is there some particular reason why starting dbus should take very long time? [07:32] kama (n=kama@host217-115-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. 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[07:51] Shamar (n=Shamar@host90-219-dynamic.25-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:52] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-176-112.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:53] TClayton_ (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-181-131.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:53] TClayton (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-181-131.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [07:54] Nick change: Shamar -> tesio [07:57] Nick change: tesio -> Tesio [07:59] slKIvs (n=ivan@24.116.79.69.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:00] Tesio (n=Shamar@host90-219-dynamic.25-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware ("Sto andando via"). [08:00] another distro-specific bug/problem caused by a distro patch/specifity [08:01] can I troll ? :D [08:01] agentc0re: what about bathtub gin? [08:01] Camarade_Tux: fire at will [08:02] spook, hehe :p [08:02] a preferences dialogue. [08:02] it was "webkit-gtk doesn't find my plugins which are in /usr/lib64/nsbrowser/plugins" [08:03] that sounded definitely quite weird, and it was XP [08:03] gentoo patch btw [08:03] in that context, could you describe dialogue as interactive, interaction, conversation, dialogue [08:03] or would you say, questions and answers, dialogue [08:04] the project kazehakase is over ? [08:04] I don't think so [08:04] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434428.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:06] kazehakase-0.5.4 : Last update on May 08, 2008 [08:06] before there was an update once a month [08:06] about [08:07] I think cvs show more recent activity [08:15] what is the best web navigator for you ? [08:18] opera [08:19] caravel, coming soon(tm) [08:19] for reading text (news & forums) i use lynx, links -g, or dillo, for multimedia rich websites requiring plugsin i use seamonkey, and for those websites with pesky advertising and crappy javascript i use firefox with adblock plus & noscript extensions, (i dont stick with one browser, depends on what website i am viewing) [08:20] I'm the same with you NukeDukem multiple ones for different reasons. [08:20] I like having the source code, which rules out opera [08:21] i read a comment that Mozilla and OOO use com, which is covered by Microsoft patents [08:23] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:23] they use XPCOM (well, at least ff), note sure how it relates to MS's COM though [08:23] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [08:23] firefox forgot the entire reason it was started in the first place, what happened to the idea of being small, simpled and quick, now it is just about the same as what mozilla/seamonkey is, just no built in email & WYSIWYG html editor [08:23] hashi (i=hashi@creep.bur.st) joined ##slackware. [08:24] guys I have flash sound issue slack 12.2 flash 10 libflashsupport is installed [08:24] NukeDukem: seamonkey is more lightweight than firefox [08:24] pretty much [08:24] still no sound [08:25] the only advantage firefox has is the variety of extensions you can add to it [08:25] i have trawled forums for hours now [08:25] NukeDukem: i use opera now, its much less bloated [08:26] i mostly use links -g or dillo [08:26] the day I learned XUL meant XML + javascript which are both horribly slow, I thought firefox could only be sucking^sucking and slow^slow [08:27] the -g switch enables graphics mode, you will have to rebuild links and remove the --without-x and --without-sdl parameters from the slackbuild [08:27] speed dial is cool. [08:27] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.43.245) joined ##slackware. [08:27] hashi, tried running your browser from a console and visited a website with some flash thing ? [08:27] http://www.osnews.com/thread?366216 [08:27] that should output some infos in the console [08:27] the stuff i've read about firefox moving away from tab based browsing is cool [08:28] spook ? [08:28] It would be nice to have a firefox clone, but a lot more lightweight [08:28] i do not see why javascript must necessarily be slow [08:28] Camarade_Tux: not from console i'll try now [08:28] ff doesn't use COM, it uses something else which happens to share part of the name [08:28] (or CORBA would be a problem too) [08:28] Vr|3Z0 (n=I@3.Red-83-53-81.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [08:29] hi all [08:29] firefox without the rss and ths too damn helpful address/url bar and no sqlite [08:29] Camarade_Tux: it shares more than just the name [08:29] r0hit (n=rohit@122.167.66.150) joined ##slackware. [08:29] its like, instead of bookmarks, you have like, tab-marks. essentially all bookmarks are tabs, or something. [08:29] nvision (n=nvision@g229125130.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [08:30] firefox chugs with large numbers of tabs, and its becoming the common usage pattern. [08:30] so its an attempt to adapt to the common usage, and have ff chug less [08:31] Vr|3Z0 (n=I@3.Red-83-53-81.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left ##slackware. [08:31] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:31] hd (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [08:32] r0hit (n=rohit@122.167.66.150) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:32] Camarade_Tux : it says alsa lib cannot find card invalid card! i have two audio interfaces the built in laptop one and a usb roland edirol which everything else goes to just fine [08:34] Camarade_Tux : um there is like /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp1 how do I make sure flash finds the one everything else is using which i think is /dev/dsp [08:36] it says unknown PCM default [08:37] sorry I am new to linux [08:37] it shows [08:37] rg31 (n=deckard@83.231.93.91) joined ##slackware. [08:38] easy target for trolls [08:38] hashi: i would suggest removing the usb audio thing and just use the internal one, [08:38] ok [08:38] thanks [08:42] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [08:42] hey i have a security camera thats usb but doesnt have any cd or something to go with it [08:42] can anyone tell me if slackware or linux have any sort of program that lets me record with this security camera? [08:43] NukeDukem: nope still same problem [08:43] missyjane: plenty of things [08:43] inconnu (i=1000@ant06-1-82-242-109-147.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:44] inconnu (i=1000@ant06-1-82-242-109-147.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:44] hashi (i=hashi@creep.bur.st) left irc: "thanks" [08:44] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.89.81) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:44] rg31 (n=deckard@83.231.93.91) left irc: "Leaving." [08:44] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.93.91) joined ##slackware. [08:46] run lspci -v and see what audio chip you have, then run lsmod to see if the module is loaded, then run alsamixer and use the M key to toggle mute off, MM = mute 00 = sound is on [08:46] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Connection timed out [08:46] inconnu, btw, why did you ask for people subscrided to free ? [08:46] since you had a usb audio thing plugged in you might have to rmmod all your sound modules and reload them [08:46] missyjane: anything that uses uvc. [08:47] missyjane, mplayer/mencoder (you can 'mplayer tv://' iirc) [08:48] uvc? [08:48] NukeDukem, was that to me? [08:48] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [08:48] Camarade_Tux, ill try that in a minute or two [08:49] or five [08:49] http://blip.tv/file/2204956/ hmm, this guy is saying religions have their origins in mental illness, (i agree!) [08:49] no [08:50] missyjane: i was helping hashi fix is audio/sound [08:50] oh sorry [08:50] no problem :) [08:50] ok looking at spooks and Camarade_Tuxs solution [08:50] FantaBubble (i=1000@rb5bk147.net.upc.cz) joined ##slackware. [08:50] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!?=1000@rb5bk147.net.upc.cz' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [08:50] FantaBubble kicked from ##slackware by ChanServ: User is banned from this channel [08:50] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@rb5bk147.net.upc.cz' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [08:52] ChanServ messages are quite boring =/ [08:52] inconnu (i=1000@ant06-1-82-242-109-147.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [08:52] inconnu (i=1000@ant06-1-82-242-109-147.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:52] what did fantabubble do? [08:53] dunno but that was probably quite silly [08:55] missyjane: its kernel driverness. [08:55] how do i know if i have support for uvc then? [08:56] missyjane: pretty much all usb cameras are handled through uvc. [08:56] so i do have it then [08:56] ok [08:56] its /dev/video iirc [08:56] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:56] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@81.170.156.174) joined ##slackware. [08:56] there's gspca too but, all webcams don't fit into these two categories (mine doesn't for instance) [08:56] or is it... /dev/v4l/ ... [08:57] /dev/video which is a symlink and /dev/videoX [08:57] When FantaBubble was here as NigroLinux he was a racist troll - which deserves a ban [08:57] http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/#devices [08:58] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [08:58] ^^ missyjane [08:58] hmmm, I remember that nick [08:58] i dont think its a webcam [08:58] its a security camera [08:58] :| [08:58] missyjane, which model ? [08:59] missyjane: is it plugged in? [08:59] its.. not even branded [08:59] http://www.iguard.com/product.shtml [08:59] missyjane: lsusb will tell you :) [08:59] it just says that [09:00] Pan-Tilt USB PC Camera (Model No. iCam-03) i think thats the model [09:00] and does it have a windows driver ? [09:01] lsusb will tell you the info we need for a definate y/n on support in linux [09:01] no windows driver [09:01] ok [09:01] let me do that now [09:01] Channel flood from missyjane -- kicking [09:01] hold on [09:01] missyjane kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [09:02] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [09:02] lol screw you slackboy / ok so i did lsusb [09:03] what do i do now to know if i can use it or not? [09:03] hd (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Connection timed out [09:04] do you see the device? [09:04] can you paste the corresponding line ? [09:05] yes [09:05] Bus 006 Device 002: ID 0ac8:301b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0301 WebCam [09:06] now try lsmod [09:06] towards the top should be some things that look video related [09:07] zc0301 50564 0 [09:07] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:07] i dont really see any [09:07] suppported with gspca afaict [09:07] missyjane: that first line is enough [09:07] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [09:07] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-83-177.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [09:08] wow [09:08] you guys are good [09:08] what does zc0301 mean? [09:08] look at what you posted from lsusb [09:08] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:08] it's the actual model, not just the brand but the model of the electronics [09:09] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:09] yikes [09:10] can mplayer read from cameras? [09:10] I'm looking into setting up squid, dansguardian and clamav to get virus checking and caching of web-traffic, but all I find in howto's are that the setup should be computer --> dansguardian(with clamav) --> squid --> internet. But wouldn't it be better to cache the files after dansguardian has checked them? [09:11] caching is faster than scanning, so you should cache first. [09:11] And then it wouldn't download and cache a bunch of viruses that dansguardian/clamav takes away anyhow? [09:11] spook, as long as some compile-time option has been set (maybe those concerning v4l* but I'm not sure) [09:11] spook, ok :) [09:11] then it makes sense [09:11] Camarade_Tux: reading man atm [09:11] let me finish this offf [09:11] brb [09:11] Try : mplayer tv:// [09:12] On this computer, that gives me the webcam's video [09:12] that usually gives it, except on mine =/ (bad drivers) [09:12] Action: alienBOB loves his eeepc [09:12] alienBOB: i love mine. :) [09:13] I think that the last time I tried mplayer tv://, that was on an eee ;) [09:13] xsane also has a webcam app, i have not found any use for it, but you could try xcam and see if it connects to your webcam [09:14] TV: v4l2: unable to open '/dev/video0': No such file or directory [09:14] inconnu (i=1000@ant06-1-82-242-109-147.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:14] is there a /dev/video0? [09:14] missyjane, do you have any /dev/video* files ? [09:14] it might be able to capture images and paste them to other graphics apps [09:14] missyjane: did you add your used account to the group 'video' ? [09:14] inconnu (i=1000@ant06-1-82-242-109-147.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [09:14] s/used/user/ [09:14] also plugdev [09:15] ang (n=ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:15] im.. not even sure i remember how i can add my user to group video [09:15] let me try this as root [09:15] polatov (n=polatov@95.58.13.83) joined ##slackware. [09:15] same error as root [09:16] missyjane: /etc/group [09:16] find the video group and add your user [09:16] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [09:17] but does it matter? even root cant use it [09:17] what makes adding user any different? [09:17] urk [09:19] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:20] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [09:20] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:20] lol my eeepc is in another room, i'm watching its camera over ssh using libcaca [09:21] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [09:25] Action: Camarade_Tux still waiting for compl3x to show up again [09:26] hi Camarade_Tux [09:26] hi init[1] :) [09:26] what happend compl3x when for a reboot ? [09:28] no, no, last week we were speaking about customizing slackware for eeepc-s and I did a few things but now he won't connect anymore [09:29] Camarade_Tux: :) [09:29] Camarade_Tux: oh you need some help? [09:29] inconnu (i=1000@ant06-1-82-242-109-147.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:29] hi spook :) [09:30] inconnu (i=1000@ant06-1-82-242-109-147.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [09:30] Camarade_Tux: slackwiki.org/Eeepc should help. i started to write it a while back [09:30] spook, well, I made the kernel boot in 4 seconds and that should be possible to improve it a bit more [09:30] hmmm, no I remember : compl3x told me to talk to you ;) [09:30] Camarade_Tux: are you serious ? o_0 [09:30] s/no/now/ [09:30] init[1], for the *kernel*, yes, but that's not extraordinary ;) [09:31] Camarade_Tux: 'kernel boot in 4 seconds' [09:31] define kernel. [09:31] Camarade_Tux: not that you need more improvement :P [09:31] spook, before init starts [09:31] init[1], yeah ;) [09:32] oh thats not bad. [09:32] ooh me ! [09:32] ill try again later [09:32] so much work piling up on me [09:32] nothing wrong in trimming the fat and making a cleaner leaner kernel but dont break its functionality [09:32] but my stock 12.2 kernel gets to init in less than 4 seconds [09:33] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [09:33] Pig_Pen, I didn't break anything but I removed a bit more than some would want [09:33] spook, but it doesn't try to load many modules after that [09:33] Camarade_Tux: uh... [09:34] i'd leave the kernel alone and focus on the startup scripts [09:34] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [09:34] Camarade_Tux: where you said. "and I did a few things but now he won't connect anymore" has nothing to do with rebuilding the kernel??? [09:34] theres a bunch of stuff in there thats time consuming. [09:34] the kernel was taking a long time to start but that was maybe an impression, eeepc.ko was taking 30s to init ! [09:35] well the kernel isn't optimized for your machine, first off [09:35] second, it has a bunch of stuff in it you don't need [09:35] Pig_Pen, no, unrelated, I didn't do anything to compl3x or to his computer ;p [09:35] third, though, eee pc's are not fast [09:35] Camarade_Tux: something is wrong there. [09:35] spook, yeah, next step : I'll check the git diff for my /etc/rc.d and port some of the changes ;) [09:35] spook, about the 30s ? [09:35] yes. [09:36] that's been reported for 2.6.29 in the kernel's bugzilla [09:37] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:38] an eee pc is best used as an ultra-portable way to go mobile. hence, netbook. [09:38] want speed? the slowest part of your machine is probably the hard drive, then the ram, then the processor [09:38] and recompiling the kernel may boost the autonomy/battery-life too :) [09:38] and it helped a bit actually [09:38] TwinReverb: please keep your fud to a minimum. [09:39] an eee's cpu is very very slow =/ [09:39] spook, :P [09:39] Action: Camarade_Tux compiled the kernel several times on an eee ='( [09:39] Camarade_Tux: seriously? setup distcc geez [09:39] ayoub_ (n=ayoub@41.249.10.217) joined ##slackware. [09:40] spook, he, distcc requires other computers ;) [09:40] it's not fear uncertainty or doubt, it's truth [09:40] I compiled the kernels while on battery ;p [09:40] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [09:41] the slackware generic and huge kernels are not optimized for any specific machine, and also include many things (notably every ide controller in the kernel is <*> for example, and probably every SATA controller also) [09:41] much less a 5400 rpm hard drive is probably the point of slowness on any laptop in terms of init [09:41] TwinReverb: actually, they are optimized for ALL machines, considering they use the generic x86 option. [09:42] spook, hence their binaries are huge [09:42] huge != slow [09:42] polatov (n=polatov@95.58.13.83) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:42] do this: take the generic-smp kernel, compile a kernel with it, then compile one with ONLY the processor you have (and shut off the generic option) [09:42] the bigger the binary, the slower it can run potentially, in terms of load time and the memory space it consumes [09:43] Action: spook goes off to drink rum [09:43] much more efficient use of my time than listening to you TwinReverb, i've found. [09:43] i can take generic-smp, pick my processor, turn on preempt, shut off generic x86, and cut out all the sata and ide controllers i don't own, and it runs about 5 seconds faster on init [09:43] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.43.245) left irc: "Saliendo" [09:44] so when you're wrong you like to insult others? surely that's a very good way to prove that Linux is a good product, Slackware a good distribution, and that you are right and everyone else is wrong [09:44] you claim what i say is FUD and I prove you wrong so then you instead insult. nice. [09:44] i hope you don't claim to be an adult because you are acting like a teenager [09:46] TwinReverb: i said keep your fud to a minimum, some of what you said it quite valid and i agree with. [09:47] i also said it was a waste of MY time to listen to you. not for anyone else. [09:47] but the perception due to how you phrased it makes it as if you are being a jerk [09:47] gg. [09:47] you lose. [09:47] there was no win or lose [09:48] ech0s7 (n=ech0s7@151.56.43.88) joined ##slackware. [09:48] hi [09:48] it' s possible to change the default font used by java swing application ? [09:49] ech0s7: probally. [09:50] spook: how ? [09:50] paul424 (i=1000@156.17.165.242) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]" [09:50] ech0s7, :) [09:50] hi Camarade_Tux :) [09:50] how are you ? [09:50] this gives some example source code : http://www.rgagnon.com/javadetails/java-0335.html (but I guess you want to change it system-wide) [09:50] fine ech0s7, and you ? [09:51] fine [09:51] Camarade_Tux: any news about porting of webkit-gtk on win32 ? :P [09:51] gtk needs to die. [09:52] ech0s7, I know fridrich worked more on that and now opensuse has libs and bins for that but the patches still aren't 100% clean [09:52] Action: TwinReverb likes gtk :( [09:52] er 8-( [09:53] I prefer to code with gtk, especially with lablgtk actually :D (ocaml gtk bindings ;) ) [09:53] TwinReverb: if you looked under the hood, so to speak, you'd understand how evil it is. [09:53] Action: Camarade_Tux goes back to his code which involves ocaml and gtk :D [09:54] spook, he, I'm not sure Qt is better ;p [09:54] fltk! [09:54] I never used fltk, mostly because there is no ocaml binding for it :D [09:54] is Qt object oriented code, written in pure C? [09:55] Nick change: M1ck_ -> Mick_ [09:55] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [09:55] that's not the problematic part [09:56] compl3x ! [09:56] <3 :D [09:56] easy fella's :P [09:56] all of gnome is written like that too [09:56] spook, please fix it for me then 8-) [09:57] we need to either kill off either gtk or Qt, or merge them [09:57] Nick change: Mick_ -> M1ck_ [09:57] get rid of both [09:57] tk/tcl, fltk, and gtk1 [09:57] hey Camarade_Tux :) [09:58] Action: compl3x goes to make a brew [09:58] something really nice with gtk is it's easy to make available to other languages [09:58] compl3x, we were talking eee a few moments ago ;) [09:59] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:59] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.73.6) joined ##slackware. [09:59] tk/tcl is nice for doing screen mockups [09:59] Camarade_Tux: nice [= Havent used mine in a couple days - was going to go out in the sun with it but running slack32 current and kde decided it could find my audio device :p [10:00] compl3x, I managed to reduce the kernel quite nicely but didn't make any benchmark yet [10:01] polatov (n=polatov@92.47.18.72) joined ##slackware. [10:01] Camarade_Tux: oh right - bbiab need a reboot [= [10:01] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "leaving" [10:03] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:06] Knightingale (n=tp@unaffiliated/knightingale) joined ##slackware. [10:07] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:08] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [10:10] confrey (n=dario@94.162.180.169) joined ##slackware. [10:11] hi everybody [10:11] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.152.18) joined ##slackware. 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Later!" [10:30] pupit: me to! [10:30] pupit: me too! [10:30] ;) [10:31] Action: TwinReverb is about to take the plunge into slackware64-current [10:31] TwinReverb, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ! [10:31] why ? oh, no reason >< [10:31] whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? [10:31] Action: TwinReverb stabs Camarade_Tux [10:32] hahaha, you can't, I'm already out :D [10:33] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [10:33] greetings [10:33] hows things going today? [10:34] WHY DID YOU STAB HIM? [10:34] i needed Camarade_Tux to help me with the camera! [10:34] i knew it he would get stabbed one day or another ;) [10:35] missyjane, what camera? [10:35] missyjane hehe :P [10:36] Hey Tom [10:37] straterra, using any -current branches? [10:37] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:52] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: K-lined [10:54] axius (n=root@92.82.68.184) left irc: Client Quit [10:55] delt (i=1000@66.234.22.163) joined ##slackware. [10:55] wtf is a "TXZ" file? [10:55] [pts/1][user@deimos]:~/Downloads$ file lesstif-0.95.0-i486-4.txz [10:55] lesstif-0.95.0-i486-4.txz: data [10:56] grissiom (n=grissiom@123.119.73.48) joined ##slackware. [10:56] tar with xz compression [10:56] *sigh* what is wrong with .tgz or .tar.bz2? [10:57] rtf-changelog [10:57] delt: wrong? Nothing [10:57] But Pat saved a LOT of space by the switch [10:57] something like zip and rar [10:58] there is nothing wrong with any of them ..just different [10:58] mkay.... and i guess you need to patch tar so that it supports this "xz" scheme? [10:58] no, don't run -current packages on your 12.2 box [10:58] No [10:58] tar compiles with the utils by default now if you have them installed [10:59] so the tar devs added support for it? [10:59] again, read-the-fucking-changelog [10:59] Even if they didn't, its trivial [10:59] thrice`++ [10:59] tar has supported it since 1.20 or so [10:59] with the backend, of course [11:00] yes patrick saved a lot of space [11:00] and if space saving is your goal, there's something wrong with everything other than the one that saves the most space [11:00] You sacrafice cpu cycles.. [11:00] i suppose it is, if installpkg does all the fancy cat whatever | tar whatever | xz whatever etcetc..... [11:00] (but then it's a decision making process, etc, but i think pat made a good call) [11:01] Which makes older machines even less friendly for Slackware..but..meh [11:01] i don't know too many people who can justify install time [11:01] but slack didn't fit on a dvd anymore? [11:01] I wish Pat would just drop 486 support [11:01] actually, slackware would NOT fit on a DVD any longer. that's the reason he had to change [11:01] delt: both 32 and 64bit fit on a dvd now [11:01] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:01] ah ok, i see [11:01] it's called install. if your machine is THAT slow, getting a new one may be in order [11:01] but you could always start the install before bed and wake up to the configuration portion if you're that worried about it :) [11:01] I just don't see the point of 486 support. [11:01] er 8-) [11:02] I don't know many 486's with the memory NEEDED to even install Slackware [11:02] Action: TwinReverb doesn't see the point of 486 support either but oh well, /me trusts Pat [11:02] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) joined ##slackware. [11:02] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [11:02] He could move to i686..and only a few people would bitch [11:02] well, having a mini-slackware would be useful to run an old machine as a firewall or something [11:02] well..many would likely bitch, few would be effected [11:02] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.69.195) left irc: "Leaving" [11:03] problem i'm having is this lesstif vs. openmotif conflict trying to compile/use nedit [11:03] yeah turning an old machine into a small firewall would be good [11:03] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:04] Whats the point of running an old machine for a firewall when you get a newer one for cheap that is likely more quiet and consumes less electricity..oh, and is faster [11:04] and i686 would still run on old machines..just not ancient x86 ones [11:04] ayoub_ (n=ayoub@41.249.10.217) left irc: Client Quit [11:05] ayoub (n=ayoub@41.249.10.217) joined ##slackware. [11:05] P2s are 586, right ? [11:05] No [11:05] Pentium 2 is 686 [11:05] when was the switch ? [11:05] nedit (even pre-compiled binaries) freeze for like 2 or 3 seconds -every- time its window reapperas on screen [11:05] straterra, true [11:06] which is extremely annoying when i have 3 or 4 of them and switching desktops [11:06] iirc, 586 was right before Pentium Pro [11:06] AKA, Pentium w/ mmx [11:07] monstro (i=1000@201-26-14-40.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:07] meh, I don't see the point. any new hardware will have 64-bit available anyway [11:07] ok thanks for the info [11:07] delt (i=1000@66.234.22.163) left ##slackware. [11:07] Yeah..but mainstream seems to have a phobia about 64-bit [11:07] That is not true. Buy a netbook. That will be 32bit [11:07] Action: straterra shrugs [11:07] alienBOB: With what proc? [11:07] Atom [11:07] mm, true. netbooks are the exception [11:07] AFAIK, the Atoms are x86_64 now [11:08] alienBOB, you rock btw 8-) [11:08] Shuren (n=Devilman@host80-171-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:08] alienBOB, in your opinion is slackware64-current ready for me (someone who's used -current before) to install and test drive? [11:08] i would assume by it being available for download it is ready, just wanted to ask if there are any known hang-ups right now [11:09] i'd say no, judging from your slamd64-fail [11:09] it wasn't my fail, it was upstream's fail [11:09] straterra: there have been 64bit capable Atom CPU's for a while, but those are never used in netbooks [11:10] my question is about slackware64-current not upstream (since i'm about to go research to see if a couple upstream projects are ready for 64bit yet) [11:10] Why aren't they? I've seen the dual core ones used..and aren't those the x86_64 ones? [11:10] more power consumption ? [11:10] could be, perhaps [11:10] TwinReverb: I am not going to tell you to use slackware64-current. You decide if you are ready to use a development release [11:10] Action: BP{k} goes with my old addage .. "if you have to ask if you are ready for -current, you arent" [11:11] And "If its asked 'Is it in yet?', you're doing it wrong" [11:11] (/0\/o\) [11:11] BP{k}, resistance is futile [11:11] i just installed slack64-current on my new laptop :-) [11:11] If I had a 64bit laptop it would be running slackware64-current [11:12] kama (n=kama@host217-115-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:12] As it stands, I have only one (pretty old) 64bit machine [11:12] kama (n=kama@host217-115-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:12] My personal 64-bit machines are older [11:12] Action: init[1] eagerly waiting for Slackware 13 - [11:13] dual core opteron and early turion [11:13] turion early on eh? [11:13] Yeah.. [11:13] i was just asking how development it is. like slackware-current development, or "it's broken right now" development? [11:13] Mine is Athlon64 3200+... [11:13] alienBOB, YOu need to upgrade to this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813151085 [11:13] Socket 754 Turion [11:14] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn191.78-99-15.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [11:14] granted, one project is not ready for the new kde anyways 8-S [11:14] Shingoshi: it's always nice if _otjer_ people have money. However, I do not have the money to buy powerful hardware [11:14] We are ordering new nahelem (sp) servers at work \O/ [11:14] TwinReverb: slackware64 and slackware -current are about on the same page [11:15] alienBOB, I'm sorry! They just raised the price $100 after I got mine! [11:15] TwinReverb: why do you think it would be "broken right now"? [11:15] i didn't, i asked if it is [11:15] usually -current isn't broken but once in a blue moon it is [11:15] Why did you think you needed to ask? [11:15] 99% of the time -current is good [11:15] "Look before you leap." [11:15] So, that should be your guide when deciding to install -current [11:15] slack current is usually more stable than most stable distros [11:16] haldir, true [11:16] I run -current all the time (32 and 64bit) [11:16] i think i ran -current from 10 to 11 "back in the day" [11:16] I even run future -current here on this eeepc ;-) [11:16] I've never run slackware-current, but I ran netbsd-current from time to time when debugging something [11:17] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.75.250) left irc: "Leaving" [11:17] I never had any problem with slackware, I don't see any difference between a release and -current ;p [11:17] i may end up running slackware64-current and slackware-current side by side on my new and old laptop respectively if the dude that borrowed them ever gets his head out his @$$ and returns it [11:17] The funny part was dealing with developers who were running -current, from >2 years ago [11:18] because upgrades were too much trouble [11:19] there should be a timeout that replaces -current with -obsolete [11:19] lol [11:20] ok brb, it appears bibletime moved to dependency on QT alone rather than kde, so hopefully there will not be too many growing pains [11:20] skype and openoffice are binary so they should be fine [11:20] (thanks to alienBOB and rworkman's repositories) [11:20] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [11:24] ayoub (n=ayoub@41.249.10.217) left irc: Client Quit [11:24] alienBOB, I paid the same price for my new board as I did for my old board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813151089 [11:24] At that price, I simply couldn't pass it up! [11:25] giuppy_ (n=giuppy@host160-174-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:26] axius (n=axius@92.82.68.184) joined ##slackware. [11:26] Shingoshi: way way way overkill [11:27] Fo you actually have a use for that [11:27] Actually, it's not. [11:27] Think about this. [11:27] Divide the price by the number of cpus. It came to $100/cpu for me! [11:28] Because I only paid $400. [11:28] That is not how I think. What _use_ does it have, to have 4 CPU's in a home computer? [11:28] you can get dual-cores WELL under $100/"cpu" [11:28] alienBOB: have you notice this thread?: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/is-pkgconfigpath-set-wrong-in-slackware64-current-730847/ [11:28] alienBOB: make -j9 for kde :) [11:29] I intend to use it for a community build engine. With remote access. [11:29] grissiom: I noticed. I also got an email a while earlier. I have not yet paid notice [11:29] ayoub_ (n=ayoub@41.249.10.217) joined ##slackware. [11:29] hiptobecubic (n=john@rrcs-24-199-215-245.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:32] how long does this qt thing take to compile install ? :( [11:32] The-Croupier: eternity. [11:32] :P [11:32] its the second time i do it... i just remembered [11:32] giuppy (n=giuppy@host210-161-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:33] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:34] Gadotti (n=ruindows@201.67.207.107) joined ##slackware. [11:34] The-Croupier: doesn't qt come in package of two? [11:36] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:36] The-Croupier: longer than it takes to walk up mout olympus on one leg without a crutch [11:38] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.43.245) joined ##slackware. [11:40] ayoub_ (n=ayoub@41.249.10.217) left irc: Client Quit [11:41] antler: lol [11:42] stybla: didnt know it comes in pkg of two..does it..?? [11:43] oda (n=oda@189.120.165.49) joined ##slackware. [11:44] grissiom (n=grissiom@123.119.73.48) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:48] Plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: "Leaving" [11:57] cat /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall [11:57] sorry, wrong terminal [12:00] null [12:01] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-220-50-120.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [12:02] nil [12:04] <_alisonken1churc> nada [12:05] Zordrak (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) left irc: "Server Maintenance Time" [12:07] cero [12:07] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:08] well [12:08] i'll toss you down a well! [12:08] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:08] heh [12:08] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:09] how goes the intel driver madness? [12:09] eviljames, phoronix.com keeps up with that. [12:09] byteframe: jeev actually went ahead with it. [12:10] replaced all the bits & pieces required and built intel-2.6 or 2.7, can't recall which offhand. [12:10] hahah it snowed in Calgary last night. in June! [12:12] eh [12:13] calgary sducvks [12:13] sucks [12:13] inconnu (i=1000@ant06-1-82-242-109-147.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:14] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [12:15] ok so ... on slackware64 i need to install ... the OpenOffice binary package that's 32bit? or 64bit? or does it really matter? (same with Skype) [12:15] oda (n=oda@189.120.165.49) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:16] (just making sure i understand the concepts) [12:16] why not 64bit ? [12:17] the 32-bit package will not work without 32-bit libraries installed [12:17] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [12:17] monstro (i=1000@201-26-14-40.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:18] monstro (i=1000@201-92-53-218.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:18] TwinReverb: do trust the skype client ? [12:18] great.. thrice is back [12:18] *do u [12:19] Plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [12:19] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [12:19] where did I go? :( [12:19] please be patient with me ... what do these 32 bit libraries look like? i'm just making sure i got this right.... [12:19] look like? [12:19] they're files in lib [12:19] lol [12:19] hi all, [12:19] im trying to mount a cd image, but am getting the following error: [12:20] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:20] like the ones in lib64/, but half the size [12:20] zGhost (i=zach@unaffiliated/zghost) joined ##slackware. [12:20] zGhost (i=zach@unaffiliated/zghost) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:20] so /usr/lib and /usr/lib64 exist ... this should mean that both 32bit and 64bit libs are installed [12:20] thrice`, you use virtualbox ? [12:21] http://pastie.org/502832 [12:21] anyone can help me ? [12:21] jeev: nope, sorry :( [12:21] http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/06/05/0517231/Google-Announces-Chrome-For-Mac-and-Linux-Dev-Builds?from=rss [12:22] trying to get x working through it ;/ [12:22] btw i don't know if this is a bug but using swap and /home on LVM living on LUKS doesn't work well if you don't swap the rc.6 and rc.S order in which LUKS and LVM2 are shut down / brought up (respectively) [12:22] monstro: do you have the dir /mnt/iso [12:22] gm152_ (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:23] monstro: i mean is there iso directory ? / have you created on [12:23] *one [12:23] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-11-207.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:23] yes [12:23] im created it [12:23] cd.iso is that in the current directory [12:24] ifso mount -o loop ./cd.iso /mnt/iso [12:24] ifso ? [12:24] no exist [12:24] what ? [12:25] mkdir /mnt/iso [12:25] if so mount -o loop ./cd.iso /mnt/iso [12:25] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:26] bash-3.1# mount -o loop cd.iso /mnt/iso/ mount: No such file or directory [12:26] bash-3.1# ls /mnt/iso/ [12:26] monstro: cd.iso whre is it ? [12:26] and the directory /mnt/iso exist! [12:26] cd.iso is the in current directory? [12:26] no [12:26] where is it ? [12:26] . [12:26] this is into /root [12:27] TwinReverb: fwiw I'm on slackware64 and running Skype right now. [12:27] eviljames, rworkman 's package? [12:27] mount -o loop /root/cd.iso /mnt/iso [12:27] no, i just downloaded the package from skype.com, untarballed and ran it. [12:27] as i assume cd.iso is in /root [12:27] monstro: give fully qualified path [12:27] don't mount! [12:28] now if I could only remember my password. [12:28] TwinReverb: http://www.slackware.org.uk/slamd64/slackware64-current/ [12:28] monstro: hey where is cd.iso ? [12:28] monstro: tell me the path? [12:28] init[1], in /root [12:28] thrice`: there's the ticket. [12:28] monstro: ls /root does it show cd.iso? [12:28] I'll bet it's because I have that installed. [12:29] with ls it show! [12:29] since openoffice provides 64-bit binaries, of course that would be ideal [12:29] mount -o loop /root/cd.iso /mnt/iso [12:29] bash-3.1# file cd.iso:data [12:29] i will check into openoffice's 64bit stuff [12:29] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@81.170.156.174) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:29] monstro: mount -o loop /root/cd.iso /mnt/iso [12:30] bash-3.1# mount -o loop cd.iso /mnt/iso/ [12:30] mount: No such file or directory [12:30] bash-3.1# [12:30] and exist the directory /mnt/iso! [12:30] is problem in file iso! [12:30] what is on the iso ? [12:30] mount -o loop /root/cd.iso /mnt/iso [12:30] cool, got X working fine in virtualbox with their additions stuff [12:30] monstro: copy paste that [12:30] hmm i get the feeling that monstro is a bot ;) [12:31] mkeil: lol [12:31] init[1], see: [12:31] btw, anyone tried go-oo ? [12:31] now i just gotta get the resolution working [12:32] init[1], [12:32] bash-3.1# mkdir /mnt/iso [12:32] mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/iso': File exists [12:32] Channel flood from monstro -- kicking [12:32] bash-3.1# mount -o loop cd1.iso /mnt/iso/ [12:32] mount: No such file or directory [12:32] monstro kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [12:32] omg [12:32] lol [12:32] dumbass ;-) [12:32] i was telling here to give the asbsolute path [12:32] yeah.. 3 times [12:33] monstro (i=1000@201-92-53-218.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:33] monstro: run this: 'ls | grep cd' [12:33] init[1], hey [12:33] thrice`, okay [12:34] monstro: where is your iso file ? [12:34] in /root [12:34] mount -o loop /root/cd1.iso /mnt/iso/ [12:35] thrice`, thanks [12:35] exist the directory but no is possible mount ! [12:35] why ? [12:36] .. [12:36] can copy paste this mount -o loop /root/cd1.iso /mnt/iso/ monstro ? [12:36] okay [12:36] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [12:37] monstro: are you sure it's an iso file? are you sure it's in root's home (/root) and not just /? [12:38] Action: init[1] thinks monstro is lost [12:39] Zordrak (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:39] hi Zordrak ! [12:39] whats that network traffic monitor on slackbuilds.. cant remember the name [12:40] not ntop.. the one that just displays a text graph of the I/O [12:40] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [12:40] Zordrak: bigbrother [12:40] Zordrak: i think so [12:40] no [12:41] not monitoring services.. [12:41] yay, got 1920x1280 or whatever it is in virtualbox. [12:41] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:41] just displaying the current IF I/O [12:41] jeev__ (n=jeev@24-180-16-19.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:42] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:42] init[1], it is not a iso file! [12:42] eulerphi (n=euler@unaffiliated/eulerphi) left irc: "leaving" [12:43] lol i should have checked that [12:43] bash-3.1$ file cd1.iso [12:43] cd1.iso: data [12:43] jeev__ (n=jeev@24-180-16-19.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [12:43] with windows i mount it with the software daemon iso ! [12:44] why the command "mount" no mount it ? [12:44] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [12:44] weee [12:44] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:44] Linux slack 2.6.29.4 #3 SMP Fri May 29 13:56:50 CDT 2009 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 940 @ 2.93GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [12:44] sexy [12:44] :> [12:44] i need to re-overclock but summer is coming [12:45] Knightingale (n=tp@unaffiliated/knightingale) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:45] got it [12:46] nload [12:46] so what should i do nwo [12:46] hrmf [12:47] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.90.223) joined ##slackware. [12:49] god slacky is so sexual [12:50] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [12:52] guys: SNORT page in sbo is not working [12:52] monstro: mount -o loop cd1.iso /mnt/tmp [12:53] http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/06/05/2349206/Hackers-Claim-10K-Prize-For-StrongWebmail-Breakin [12:53] farabi (n=farabi@host-85-27-58-115.brutele.be) joined ##slackware. [12:53] The-Croupier: you think you could be a wee bit more specific? [12:54] what do you mean??? he said "not working11!" [12:54] ZOMG!!!1 [12:55] IT IS TEH BORKENSESSZ!!!!!111oneoneoneone [12:55] BP{k}: i mean if you click on the link: http://www.snort.org/dl/snort-2.8.3.2.tar.gz [12:55] :> [12:55] >.< [12:55] from the sbo..you get a sorry not found page ;) [12:55] roorah (n=foo@87.244.223.14) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:55] roorah (n=foo@87.244.223.14) joined ##slackware. [12:56] Gadotti (n=ruindows@201.67.207.107) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:56] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:56] farabi (n=farabi@host-85-27-58-115.brutele.be) left irc: Client Quit [12:56] http://www.snort.org/downloads [12:57] and the version in sbo is 2.8.32 and the late on is 2.8.41 ;) [12:57] The-Croupier: yes *and*? [12:57] antler: im already there ;) [12:57] BP{k}: there is no end...im just saying so that you know ;) [12:57] sorry for mentioning it [12:58] The-Croupier: tell the maintainer not us [12:58] or at leaset use ##slackbuilds [12:58] The-Croupier: See this is where it's useful for knowing how to file acurate bugreports: What you really meant is that link to the upstream source is no longer valid. [12:58] ok sorry, its not that much of a big deal, i just said it sort of fyi :( sorry [12:58] The-Croupier, it no worked ! [12:59] anyway: I already pinged the maintainer about this. [12:59] BP{k}: thanks ;) [12:59] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:00] The-Croupier: and, better, update the slackbuild for the latest release, and send it along with your poke to the maintainer [13:00] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [13:00] thrice`: doing that now ;) [13:01] root 9647 49.8 2.3 169672 93288 tty7 R heh, is that normal? 50% cpu at the office [13:01] on a Q8200 [13:01] ps, don't run X as root, of course [13:01] i love running it as root. [13:02] so do hackers [13:02] this is a virtual box, i cant even reach it from the host computer lol [13:03] but no, X should not be using that much :( probably v-box related [13:03] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [13:04] i need to set up a simple ftp server. do you prefer vsftpd or proftpd? [13:04] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [13:05] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [13:06] pi31415 (n=chatzill@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:06] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. 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[13:12] 2.2.4 or whatever's latest [13:12] LOL antler [13:12] my fart smell signifies armageddon too [13:12] what do you want me to take a screen shot of init[1] ? [13:13] jeev: no, problem is it supports 32bit colors better thatn 24 bit , so if we run X within VB it creates a lag [13:13] Weather for Calgary, AB 3°C Current: Light snow [13:13] axius (n=axius@92.82.68.184) left irc: "Leaving" [13:13] antler: are you a bot ? [13:14] antler: i mean weather reporting kind ? [13:14] antler: are you serious? [13:14] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:14] thumbs: no joke. i'm looking outside now [13:14] snow in June? [13:14] mine isn't lagging [13:15] jeev: enable composite [13:15] where [13:15] withing your vb desktop [13:15] t4k3r0n_ (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) joined ##slackware. [13:15] antler: that is weird. is that some kind of record for unseasonal snowfall? [13:15] i dunno where to go for that [13:16] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-220-50-120.vic.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [13:16] hitest: albertans have come to expect unseasonal snowfalls [13:16] jeev: didn't vb said that it support 32 better than 24? [13:16] hitest: where do you live? what city / town? [13:17] i didnt read much man [13:17] http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/city/pages/ab-52_metric_e.html [13:17] monstro (i=1000@201-92-53-218.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:17] antler: Prince Rupert, BC. we're probably one of the wettest towns in Canada [13:18] altho the weather is nice today, thankfully [13:18] hitest: i heard that the interior had a strange, record-breaking last winter [13:18] tooly (n=theo@e178170160.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [13:18] yeah....it was pretty freakig cold I seem to recall in the interior [13:18] freaking [13:19] pwc101 (n=pwc101@94-192-0-60.zone6.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:19] monstro (i=1000@201-26-15-112.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:19] vinegaro1n (n=sam@202-180-123-62.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [13:20] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: "Leaving" [13:22] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [13:24] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [13:26] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:27] gm145 (n=gm145@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:27] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.156.133.144) joined ##slackware. [13:27] I wish I played video games, sometimes [13:27] my brothers always look like they have so much fun [13:27] fcaraballo (n=fcarabal@unaffiliated/fcaraballo) joined ##slackware. [13:28] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-123-62.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:28] so what stops you? [13:28] I do. [13:28] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [13:29] Well...I never got CS to work with wine [13:29] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.43.245) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:30] eh? which version of CS? source? [13:31] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:31] CS (tear gas) is nasty stuff. Just drink more wine. [13:31] source [13:32] Oh! And starcraft [13:32] I never got starcraft to work.. [13:32] i got SC to work fine =p [13:32] On battlenet? [13:32] source is hard because steam is a bitch [13:33] pretty sure it has to do with valve's VAC [13:33] i know i got it to work on single and lan [13:33] i think battle.net was blocked at work, so i never got to test lol [13:33] startcraft2 \\o [13:33] starcraft2 o// [13:33] starcraft2 \o/ [13:33] redtricycle: i have played cs 1.6 and condition zero and source in wine [13:33] is it out? [13:33] they work fine [13:33] antler, no ;p [13:33] it's in private beta right now afaik [13:34] about starcraft i don't know but since it is a very popular game i guess it works too [13:34] like first WoW players and various world champions [13:34] Lord_Khelben: how'd ya get steam to work in wine? [13:35] oh man starcraft..... many, many man hours on it [13:35] Necos: what is steam ? [13:35] hours ? you mean weeks ;) [13:35] starcraft has been working fine on wine for 10+ years now [13:36] Camarade_Tux: yeah, but "many, many man weeks" doesn't make sense [13:36] http://www.starcraft2.com/beta-faq.xml [13:37] steam is the client that manages valve games [13:37] antler, my eyes had removed the "man" ;) [13:37] dunno about battle.net, but the last patch to the game adds plain old UDP multiplayer, no need for a central server [13:37] well, it manages a whole bunch of games now [13:37] Necos: i don't recall messing with steam. i ran wine hl.exe -game cstrike.exe or wine cstrike.exe directly [13:37] and it worked [13:38] CS Source used steam (the later versions did, at least) [13:39] < Camarade_Tux> antler, my eyes undressed the man ;) <----- what i read [13:39] bbl [13:39] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:39] steam : one of the suckiest app ever :) [13:39] antler, lol ! :p [13:39] wow antler... just wow... [13:39] i still have the install cd so i can try installing it again if you want. i don't remember steam at all though [13:40] Necos: lol [13:40] do i even wanna know where your mind is right now antler? it's deeper than the gutter >.<; [13:40] Lord_Khelben: nah, it's cool... i was just curious [13:40] now, now. be nice :D [13:41] [password hadh ] is there a way to genrate password hash so that i can be used with *useradd* [13:41] *hash [13:41] no way, i have to work on saturday after a 14hr day yesterday... no nice Necos for you! [13:41] *it [13:42] i mean like *crypt [13:42] you have to echo it from a file? [13:42] i coulnd't find a tool within slackware [13:42] useradd prompts you for the password, so you can just echo it from a file [13:43] Necos: you see how reverse karma works now? they knew yesterday that you weren't going to be nice Necos today [13:43] Necos: that is adduser [13:43] s/useradd/adduser/ [13:43] rob0: useradd is a script [13:43] oi... yeah >.<; [13:43] see, i'm fuckin sleepy [13:43] these bastards [13:44] rob0: i mean adduser [13:44] init[1]: you dont want a password that is too difficult to remember, you want one with both letters & numbers and maybe a _ (underscore) in it = easy to remember but difficult to crack by strangers [13:44] antler, according to wikipedia : Release date(s) Q4 2009[3][4]Tentative [13:44] :) [13:44] /usr/sbin/useradd: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped [13:44] rob0: i mean adduser [13:45] arenics (n=arenics@189.104.62.62) joined ##slackware. [13:45] (Which brings up the question, why is an essential admin tool dynamically linked and placed under /usr ?) [13:46] it's not under slack32 [13:46] it's under /usr/sbin/ [13:46] owhere@unaffiliated/inside) has joined #shellium [13:46] err, yeah... durp... >.<; [13:46] it should be in /sbin or something [13:46] bash-3.1# file /usr/sbin/adduser [13:46] /usr/sbin/adduser: Bourne-Again shell script text executable [13:46] in /bin,/sbin usually exist binaries that are needed for booting even if /usr isn't mounted [13:46] Camarade_Tux: i just hope that an upgrade to a quantum computer is not needed to run it - can't afford one of those just yet [13:46] Zordrak: alive? [13:47] init[1]: useradd * [13:47] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Connection timed out [13:47] adduser and useradd aren't essential under single user mode. [13:47] adduser is not so much needed under those circumstances [13:47] you won't find many statically linked binaries on slackware [13:47] yeah what antiwire said [13:47] not even in /sbin [13:47] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [13:47] hey my question is not that [13:48] i mean can is there a tool to genrate password hash [13:48] like crypt in debain [13:48] use perl >.> [13:48] 0_o [13:48] Slackware does have crypt() [13:48] Also, ISTM that there should be an editor in /bin, because I recently was on a system without /usr, and I found it unusable and unadministratable. [13:48] antiwire: its an API [13:48] yes and? [13:49] what do you think adduser and useradd use? [13:49] along with shadow [13:49] hm. /bin/ed used to be usable without /usr, but these days it's a symlink to /usr/bin/ed [13:49] he wants a program that he can just generate one from [13:49] antiwire: i m asking about a stand and alone tool to genrate a password hash [13:49] init[1], what I would do, adduser and copy the line from shadow(5). [13:49] so, use perl to do it for you [13:50] gm152_ (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:50] rob0: that is bit twisted way right ? [13:51] I don't know. It seems more like a silly non-problem, to me. [13:51] hey in slackware64 the icon animal isnt a tux anymore, its like a rat wearing a bill to look like tux, whats up with that? [13:51] init[1]: if you know debian has this tool you speak why don't you get it and look at it or actually use it? [13:51] berke: no it's not a rat [13:51] You can use perl, as suggested. [13:51] init[1]: http://pastebin.ca/1449901 [13:51] try this [13:51] antiwire: then what is it? and why the change? [13:52] berke, it's Taz, you can google "taz linux" and find out. [13:52] berke: read the kernel changelogs at kernelnewbies, you'll see [13:52] it's only for 2.6.29 IIUC. [13:52] antiwire: there are so many tools to be learned with in slackware , i assumed this one would be there just asked [13:52] init[1]: there are actually quite a few little tools and ideas in Slackware that have been learned from Debian [13:52] it's not unheard of [13:53] and vice versa [13:53] init[1]: have you read the pastebin ? [13:53] linux distros steal from each other all the time ^_~ [13:53] init[1]: maybe if you told us exactly what you're trying to do, we could suggest a way to do it... [13:53] Lord_Khelben: doesn't that scripy depend on crypt tood ? [13:53] init[1]: i didn't understand that [13:54] Urchlay: i need play wiht useradd -p option [13:54] the password in there is "hello world" and it encrypts it using salt "abcdefgh" [13:54] its not stealing if it is GPLed code [13:54] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: "Leaving" [13:54] give it the password you want and a random salt [13:54] and it does what you want [13:54] well, you know what i mean NukeDukem [13:54] interesting. "md5pass" sounds like it might do what you want, only it doesn't actually work [13:54] lol [13:54] antiwire: do you mean tuz? [13:55] Lord_Khelben: i mm not familiar with perl but i was asking" crypt "Hello World", "\$1\$$mysalt"; " ,is that a function call to crypt >? [13:55] or is it using the utility crypt ? [13:55] I'm too nice with people : that's the third programm I'm debugging for somebody else today =/ [13:55] init[1]: it calls the crypt function of perl which is similar to crypt(3) you can use in a c program [13:56] actually the same not similar [13:56] Lord_Khelben: got it thank you ! [13:56] it doesn't need an external program if you ask that [13:56] Lord_Khelben: usually it just links crypt [13:56] Necos: yes i didn't described it well [13:56] Lord_Khelben: that is what i asked [13:56] aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ! no more socks ! [13:57] init[1]: to be useful you need to generate a random salt everytime and not use abcdefgh :) [13:57] yeah, md5pass does the job, but you have to install the perl module Crypt::PasswdMD5 first [13:58] guys, anyone tried firefox 3.5 beta? [13:58] It's not even launching for me [13:58] there are many tools for passwords out there (especially for perl,python etc) [13:58] Kaapa: i did [13:58] The-spiki: did it work for you? [13:58] md5pass is in the syslinux package, wonder why? [13:58] me 2 [13:58] Kaapa: wget url, tar zvxf, cd dir, ./firefox [13:58] i use it since it was called 3.1 [13:59] because the 3.0 didn't work with my e-banking [13:59] you need to close ff 2.0.10 [13:59] The-spiki: Lord_Khelben: what slack do you guys use? [13:59] -current or 12.2? [13:59] the latest -current [13:59] Kaapa: 12.2 on this laptop [13:59] that's weird then [13:59] it works on --current too [14:00] cause not only it doesn't work for me but also gdb returns weird stuff [14:00] but ok, thanks [14:00] Kaapa: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-mozilla-1.9.1/firefox-3.5pre.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 is this the one you have ? [14:00] checked the md5 on your tarball? [14:00] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:01] Lord_Khelben: probably, tried that and a 3.6 alpha [14:01] 3.6 (former 3.2) has some issues yet and crashes frequently [14:01] but 3.5 works fine [14:01] doesn't even start for me [14:01] and it is way faster than 3.0 (scrolling and terminate) [14:02] it's much more improved, yeah [14:02] check openvideo on dailymotion [14:02] for now it works only in 3.5 [14:03] awesome video (html5, works without flash, uses theora codec... etc) [14:04] iirc they said soon they will have 300 K videos in theora [14:05] info fileutils <- info missing in 12.2 [14:06] info sh-utils <- [14:07] i think somre more are missing [14:07] what is sh-utils ? [14:07] shell utilities [14:07] fileutils if you mean the "file" utility the package name is file in slack [14:08] everything got merged in to file [14:08] but info binutils is present [14:08] Necos: info file leads to system calls [14:09] file and binutils, rather... [14:09] info binutils shows up stuff [14:09] info fileutils ? [14:10] if you see in /usr/info there is a texinfo file for binutils [14:10] file doesn't have one. "info file" should give you the manpage [14:10] tooly (n=theo@e178170160.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:10] Lord_Khelben: i mean info fileutils [14:11] as you see in info binutils [14:11] i don't know what fileutils is. i assumed you meant the "file" utility [14:11] Lord_Khelben: those aare utilities meant for file operation [14:11] like mv , cp , rm etc [14:12] im tryign to convey that the info pack for fileutils are missing [14:12] mv cp rm etc is part of the coreutils package [14:12] its been this way for long [14:12] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-138-118.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:12] Lord_Khelben: check info [14:12] info [14:12] you will understand what i said [14:12] try "info coreutils" [14:14] * cp: (fileutils)cp invocation. Copy files. [14:14] <- from info [14:14] Lord_Khelben: * mv: (fileutils)mv invocation. Rename files. [14:15] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:15] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-83-177.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:15] this is form invocation of info [14:15] i guess fileutils was forked/renamed and became the today coreutils and they forgot to change this references [14:15] i may be way wrong though [14:16] Lord_Khelben: which is right ? [14:16] i mean is it part of core or file ? [14:16] today it is called core [14:16] if you try info coreutils it works fine [14:16] yea i have seen that [14:17] so core is right ? [14:17] should this be reported? [14:18] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.156.133.144) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:18] a/coreutils-5.0-i486-1.tgz: This package replaces the GNU fileutils, sh-utils, and textutils packages. [14:19] the change occured in slackware 9.1 [14:19] ooh .. 0_o [14:20] sQuEE (n=narya@host220.201-253-136.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "fnord!!" [14:21] sQuEE (n=narya@host220.201-253-136.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [14:22] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:23] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [14:24] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:24] oh noes! everyone run it's firebird619. :P [14:24] Greetings everyone. :) [14:24] haha [14:24] agentc0re: you better run. :P [14:24] lol [14:24] Greets failbird [14:24] hey does any one program tcl ? [14:24] agentc0re: How's it going? [14:24] No! [14:24] Hi caoliver [14:25] hello firebird619 [14:25] Hi Lord_Khelben, how are you? [14:25] is it a good startign place for scipting after bash ? [14:25] nice. thank you for asking [14:25] firebird619: it's going alright. Finished Two batches of Beer that took me forever. Longer than i expected. I didn't finish until like 5am this morning. [14:25] Lord_Khelben: have you tried tcl ? [14:25] Here's something from antiquity: does anyone know a card under slack 3.5 that speaks vesa 2.0 by default? [14:26] init[1]: tcl is nice but it isn't used very much. i have used many tcl apps but never tried to program [14:26] firebird619: About to leave for skydiving too :D. [14:26] sweet [14:26] python/perl/ruby/whatever would be nicer [14:26] have fun [14:26] About the only Tck/Tk think I use is the git frontends. [14:26] Lord_Khelben: thank you ! [14:26] "a card under slack 3.5" ?? [14:26] Yup. [14:26] any idea why tcl isn't used much? [14:26] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [14:27] Ugly syntax. Quoting conventions give me the heebie jeebies. [14:27] amsn uses tcl/tk [14:27] caoliver: :) [14:27] And you thought lisp/scheme backquote was bad! The howwah the howwah! [14:28] Bugz___ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-53-41.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:30] I need to set up slk 3.5 under cqemu to run a creeky old spreadsheet depending on libc5. I still have old data from that. Hence I want to get X running, and I'd like to use -vga std rather than the cirrus emulation. [14:30] ojg (n=ojg@c-83-233-228-68.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [14:30] s/cqemu/qemu/ [14:31] Slack 3.5 is actually running now, but I just don't know what card to tell XF86Setup. [14:31] caoliver: can't you try vesa [14:31] I didn't find an entry for that. [14:32] im not sure if xorgconfig works with 3.5 [14:32] And it's been a very long time since I wrote an X config by hand. [14:32] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-138-118.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [14:32] you can set it up with that i mean [14:32] init[1]: there wasn't xorg at that time [14:32] 3.5 used XF86 not Xorg. [14:32] Snap! [14:33] That was the day of guessed modelines and fear of smoking monitors. [14:33] Bugz___ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-53-41.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:33] caoliver: X -configure , is thee smthing like this with XF86 [14:33] you'd be better trying to find a new program that can read it [14:34] sQuEE` (n=narya@host220.201-253-136.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [14:34] sQuEE` (n=narya@host220.201-253-136.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:34] That's a wild goose chace. Wingz wasn't that p[opular I don't think. [14:34] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:34] chase [14:34] caoliver: is there -configure option wiht xf86 ? [14:35] Dunno yet. [14:35] as we have x -configure [14:35] Bugz___ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-93-84.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:35] Or XorgSetup or some such. [14:36] xfree had xf86config and xf86setup (graphic) but i don't know if there were in 3.5 time too [14:37] I was trying to find a card in XF86Setup. [14:37] There didn't seem to be a generic VESA [14:37] cirrus was pretty known brand at those times. i guess it should work but i may be wrong [14:38] My first 486 box had one of those. [14:38] my card then was paradise something but i can't remember how it was exactly [14:39] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-87-16.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:41] tooly1 (n=theo@e178170160.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [14:41] Bugz___ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-93-84.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:41] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-87-16.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:43] ppl, please someone tell what is the register nick command here on freenode? [14:44] ./msg nickserv register password [14:44] It's /msg NickServ register your_password_here. Be using the nick you want registered. [14:44] http://freenode.net/faq.shtml [14:44] ah no it is ./msg nickserv register password email [14:45] according to /msg nickserv help register [14:45] thanks, i appreciate :) [14:45] caoliver: no luck getting wingz to run in a chroot? [14:45] oh yeah, the e-mail at the end. I forgot that too. [14:45] pupit: you can also look at /msg nickserv help. [14:45] pupit /join #freenode they will help you out" :) [14:45] i don't remember puting a email when i registered [14:45] thanks firebird619, Lord_Khelben , init[1] :) and the rest :) [14:45] yw [14:46] np:) [14:46] Hey Urchlay, you pass that level last night or did you keep blowing yourself up? [14:46] Lord_Khelben:then how did you give the confrimation code? [14:46] Lord_Khelben: It is required though, especially if you want a cloak. [14:46] firebird619: eventually I had to sleep [14:46] Well! That would be very painful as I use SSH X forward for any X11 conn. I really don't want to open that up. [14:47] init[1]: maybe i did :P i don't remember it was 1year back [14:47] init[1]: what confirmation code? [14:48] some radom letters .. [14:48] woodoomagic (n=beker@93.86.204.87) joined ##slackware. [14:48] with a irc command don't remember now [14:48] it asked me to check the mail and give the code ! [14:48] There's an idea. Could I hard link the X sock from the jail? [14:48] pwc101 (n=pwc101@94-192-0-60.zone6.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [14:48] caoliver: can't you use tight vnc? [14:48] init[1]: I never had to do anything with a code. I've been on freenode about 3 years now. [14:48] caoliver: wait, what're you trying to do again? [14:49] Run a X11 prog depnding on libc5 [14:49] firebird619: i will paste will what is said [14:49] *it [14:49] the email confirmation? [14:49] right. But do you plan to keep running it forever, or just temporarily so you can get your data out of its format and into something more modern? [14:49] Hey antiwire [14:50] Don't know what that would be. Most "modern" office stuff is quite bloated. [14:50] fundamental (n=fundamen@24-148-122-247.ip.mhcable.com) joined ##slackware. [14:50] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [14:50] well yeah [14:51] but if something like the spreadsheet from koffice would do you, that's not so bad (compared to openoffice, anyway) [14:51] I don't even have KDE/QT on here. [14:51] firebird619: http://pastebin.ca/1449957 [14:51] I don't really have any suggestion what's the best modern office-type program to use (I don't use any of them), just trying to find out what your ultimate goal is [14:51] I am not thrilled by the direction (recourse consumption) of contemporary desktop stuff. [14:52] (0)_(o) [14:52] fundamental (n=fundamen@24-148-122-247.ip.mhcable.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:52] init[1]: that's normal? [14:52] oftc does the same [14:52] Actually, if I could get Wingz behaving, I'd just use that. [14:52] Even though many would find it a creeping horror. [14:52] firebird619:told me that they didn't send him an email regarding registration [14:52] ok, so you want something permanent, thus reasonably easy to run and as secure as you can get it [14:52] init[1]: ok, I don't remember getting anything like that, but I registered a few years back, so maybe I did and can't remember. [14:53] antiwire: firebird619:told me that they didn't send him an email regarding registration [14:53] I see that [14:53] Oh. And I figure that the chroot and run a su back to my normal self. [14:53] Hence ditch rootability early. [14:53] did you actually get it to run in a chroot? [14:53] Not yet. jUST A THEORY. [14:54] caoliver: what is the format of the file? [14:54] CaPs LoCk from hell. [14:54] Wingz. [14:54] .wkz [14:54] hm, did you get it as far as I got it, at least? (griping about "no adobe fonts found"?) [14:54] Didn't start. I found that slack3.5 run under qemu, and I planned to go that route. [14:54] But stumbled on X. [14:54] ah, so not a chroot [14:55] what, slack 3.5's X doesn't want to run in qemu? [14:55] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Connection timed out [14:55] My plan would have been much slower though as 2.0.34 blows chunks under KVM. [14:55] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [14:56] axius (n=tty@92.82.68.184) joined ##slackware. [14:56] No. Cirrus driver seems to have trouble with the cursor (vague deja vu here), and -vga std doesn't seem to work at all. [14:57] At least I don't see a driver under XF86 that make the emulated vesa card happy. [14:57] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-80-5.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:58] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-80-5.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:59] caoliver: you may need wine [14:59] http://www.rl-software.com/converter/file-conversion-wizard.htm [15:00] fcaraballo (n=fcarabal@unaffiliated/fcaraballo) left irc: "Leaving" [15:00] Bleah! [15:00] it converts wkz format to xls [15:00] Double bleah! [15:00] caoliver: not even the 1bpp monochrome driver? :) [15:00] it would be appropriate that this head ache :P [15:00] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:00] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [15:01] Dunno. Am about to try the chroot route. (There's an echo in here.) [15:02] init[1]: I'd actually like to get Wingz running well enough to use. I know it well, and it didn't have the bloat of contemporary officed aps. [15:02] gar0t0 (n=casa@189.110.79.177) joined ##slackware. [15:03] s/officed aps/office apps/ [15:03] mziulu (i=52555923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-742e93b6b24c4984) joined ##slackware. [15:03] hi all [15:03] :) [15:03] 'lo [15:03] caoliver: as you wish :P [15:03] Hi gar0t0. How's it going? [15:04] another qemu idea: don't try to run an X server inside the qemu guest. Instead, get networking set up so the guest can talk to the host, have the host's X server listen on TCP, and have the guest's DISPLAY set to ip.of.host:0 [15:05] Again: I try to run a tight ssh shop with no open X tcp. [15:05] For any reason. [15:05] firebird619: fine! drinking beer, and you? [15:05] What beer? [15:05] gar0t0: doing great, thank you. :) [15:05] what about having X only listening on the lo interface on tcp? [15:05] Devassa [15:05] caoliver: Devassa [15:05] :) [15:05] Not a bad thought. [15:06] or iptables rules to block incoming tcp connections to X from everywhere but your qemu guest, if it turns out not to be possible to use localhost [15:06] caoliver: from Rio de Janeiro, good beer [15:06] What style? I tend to be a stout and dark ale guy. [15:06] down_fall_ (n=down_fal@124.148.46.158) joined ##slackware. [15:06] Gotta pour in chunks. [15:07] beer you can stand a spoon in? [15:07] Yup. [15:07] poke a hole in the head with your finger, and the hole's still here an hour later? [15:07] Like coffee much the same. [15:07] caoliver: pale ale [15:08] I suspect it is good, but not my thing. [15:08] Guiness stout [15:08] caoliver: I drink a "tropical dark" now [15:08] Guiness r0x [15:08] woodoomagic (n=beker@93.86.204.87) left irc: "Leaving." [15:08] but, devassa is better [15:08] Lately Lagunitas Capucino or Dog Fish Head World Wide. [15:09] woodoomagic (n=woodooma@93.86.204.87) joined ##slackware. [15:10] caoliver: http://www.devassa.com.br/ <-- click in "sim" [15:10] hm. Another thought for you, if you don't want X running TCP. Get ssh from host to guest working, use ssh X forwarding (which IIRC still works with X not doing TCP, but it's been a while since I messed with it) [15:10] woodoomagic (n=woodooma@93.86.204.87) left ##slackware. [15:10] woodoomagic (n=woodooma@93.86.204.87) joined ##slackware. [15:11] I was thinking of simply hard linking the local UNIX domain socket into the chroot jail. [15:11] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [15:11] wonder if that works [15:11] I'd suspect so. [15:12] But the experiment is easy to do, and it'd be the least painful way.' [15:12] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:12] hm, yeah, hard-linking the unix socket does work [15:12] cd /tmp/.X11-unix ; ln X0 X1 ; DISPLAY=:1 xterm [15:12] Cool. That means no tricky means are need to talk to X. [15:13] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.150) left irc: "Leaving." [15:13] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.150) joined ##slackware. [15:14] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-142-95-240.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [15:15] Oops! Crossdevice link. [15:15] df [15:15] eh, well, yeah... [15:15] I think I have enough room on tmp. [15:15] setting up entire chroot in /tmp? [15:16] for now. [15:16] oh, meant to ask you. You nick, is it pronounced like "C. A. Oliver"? [15:17] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.150) left irc: Client Quit [15:17] Christopher Anthony [15:17] pupit (n=pupit@91.150.106.150) joined ##slackware. [15:17] ah. I keep reading it as though it's pronounced "cow liver", didn't think that was right [15:17] repsol_ (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:17] It only looks like Raymond luxury Yacht; it's pronounced Throat wobbler mangrove. [15:18] (no insult intended, that's just how my brain works, or fails to) [15:18] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:18] Someone thought that in #emacs as well. [15:18] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-194-127.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:19] Or if I drink too much stout: Ciao liver. [15:19] :) [15:20] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-235-44.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Quitting" [15:20] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [15:20] now I can't even remember why my X server listens on a TCP port [15:21] nixmunch3 (n=thytezzi@71.16.214.27) joined ##slackware. [15:21] eh, possibly because that's the default [15:21] I shut that down during a bout of paranoia. [15:21] hi channel [15:21] hi [15:21] hey firebird619 [15:21] yo compl3x, how's it going? [15:22] if you startx the default it to listen i think. if you run kdm/xdm/etc the Xsession defines -nolisten tcp [15:22] firebird619: good good yourself? [15:22] doing great, thank you. Weather is dreary and rainy here today though. [15:22] ??? how do i install .deb files? someone? [15:22] ANyone ever get dvd burning issues with current - and k3b? burning dvd's get stuck on 99% and result in corrupt discs? [15:22] firebird619: same here :/ [15:23] nixmunch3: .deb files are meant to be installed in debian. why do you want to install this file ? [15:23] and is slapt-get better than slackpkg? [15:24] no [15:24] slapt-get is ok if you don't expect it to be apt-get. with slackpkg you have way less possibilities to damage your system [15:24] nobody here is likely to advise you to use slapt-get instead of slackpkg [15:25] Lord_Khelben, i want iceweasel.. but its a .deb file... or gotten through apt-get [15:25] Now I remember why I planned to do emu. I don't have aout in this kernel. [15:25] nixmunch3: slackware includes firefox [15:25] compl3x: does cdrecord or growisofs work OK for you? [15:25] which is like iceweasel but better [15:26] compl3x: ! cama*_Tux was waiting for you :P [15:26] caoliver: ehhh, the wingz binary I found was elf [15:26] Urchlay: Im giving it a shot now ill report the output if it happens again [15:26] Lord_Khelben, iceweasel is lighter thann FF [15:26] down_fall (n=down_fal@124.148.46.158) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:26] init[1]: really? haha I had to go out! :P my bad [15:26] nixmunch3: eh? [15:26] Hmmm... I thought libc5 was aout. [15:26] huh? iceweasel *is* firefox, just rebranded [15:26] yeah [15:26] nixmunch3: if i am not wrong iceweasel is a fork of firefox [15:26] nah, libc5 IIRC can be either elf or a.out [15:26] compl3x: he was talking about netbook or smthing [15:26] and debian people incorporate patches from firefox [15:26] init[1]: yeah [15:26] so it should be the same [15:26] not lighter [15:26] My fuzzy brain may misremember. [15:27] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-194-127.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:27] Lord_Khelben, it is said to be a lightweight version [15:27] nixmunch3: i don't know about that. you may be right [15:27] I seem to recall running elf on my old computers though. Building an aout lib was dreafully nasty. [15:27] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [15:27] I've never heard of iceweasel being lightweight. [15:27] nixmunch3: we can tell you how to install a .deb file BUT it was compiled for a different system so it will need some libs you don't have [15:27] Urchlay, doesnt slapt-get has more packages? [15:27] anyway I know for sure it can be elf, cause I have that wingz binary, and the old id software quake binary, both show up as elf [15:28] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:28] and both utterly fail to run on modern slackware :) [15:28] so if the file names used in iceweasel package is the same as firefox you may damage your system [15:28] nixmunch3: more doesn't mean better though [15:28] generally it is not good to install packages meant for another system [15:29] mziulu (i=52555923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-742e93b6b24c4984) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [15:29] nixmunch3: slapt-get supports 3rd party repositories [15:29] Urchlay, can i get more from slapt-get? [15:29] which results in damaged systems if you don't know what you're doing [15:29] nixmunch3: yes, but when (not if) your system breaks, don't expect anyone in here to offer much sympathy [15:29] nixmunch3: why would you want more? just use sbo [15:29] many packages in these repositories replace slackware packages and then all kinds of problems arise [15:30] hey "cryptdir" is part of which utils ? [15:30] ok [15:30] your best bet is to visit slackbuilds.org as compl3x suggested and compile the packages yourself [15:30] i can't find it in man [15:30] nixmunch3: you can get more from Geico [15:30] y0 antler, how's it going? [15:30] nixmunch3: based on the questions you're asking, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you're new to linux... when things break, you don't yet know enough to fix them [15:31] Action: compl3x is wondering if anyone wants to donate him a new dvd drive? [15:31] woodoomagic (n=woodooma@93.86.204.87) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:31] init[1]: grep cryptdir /var/adm/packages/* [15:31] firebird619: hey man good, snowed today. how are you? :P [15:31] woodoomagic (n=woodooma@93.86.204.87) joined ##slackware. [15:31] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [15:31] Snowed? [15:31] antler: doing great, thanks. raining here. :D [15:31] Been sunny all week here - till today :@ [15:32] caoliver: note his name, antler, he lives on the mountain tops. :P [15:32] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:32] nixmunch3: slackpkg is the safer choice of the two [15:32] antler, geico? [15:32] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:32] woodoomagic (n=woodooma@93.86.204.87) left irc: Excess Flood [15:32] firebird619: yeah, it's alternating between hail, snow, and wet snow here.... [15:32] you can also use slackroll [15:32] nixmunch3: yeah [15:32] Urchlay: its not a package [15:32] antler: wow, where the heck are you? :P [15:32] Urchlay: its within a package [15:32] calgary [15:32] ah, ok. [15:33] firebird619: lol [15:33] woodoomagic (n=woodooma@93.86.204.87) joined ##slackware. [15:33] antler, sounds like car insurance lol [15:33] nixmunch3: it is. you can really get more from it. [15:33] Action: compl3x IS GOING TO KILL K3B - stuck on 99% [15:33] antler, lol [15:33] init[1]: /var/adm/packages/ (or /var/log/packages/ its the same) contains a list of files which are all the packages installed and their contents [15:33] compl3x: NO DON'T, think about the consequences. :P [15:33] the command Urchlay gave you will search all of them and tell you which package contains cryptdir [15:34] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-83-177.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [15:34] firebird619: DVD Corruption! [15:34] lol [15:34] I need a shoulder to cry on ]= [15:34] compl3x: just use xfburn or cli tools and be happy. [15:34] i've never had a problem with k3b [15:34] compl3x: lol :D [15:34] firebird619: it uses growisofs - so I don't know where the issue is [15:34] compl3x: try cdrecord -v -dao to see what the error is [15:34] Lord_Khelben: im checking [15:34] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.71.8.152) joined ##slackware. [15:34] antler: me either. [15:35] compl3x: PEBKAC? :P [15:35] firebird619: come again :S? [15:35] also avoid dev=/dev/sr0,hda,cdrom,whatever [15:35] compl3x: pebkac = problem exists between keyboard and chair. :P [15:35] dev=X,Y,Z is the correct way to do it [15:35] firebird619: okay - still don't fully understand ..:p [15:35] compl3x: you fail. :P [15:35] how do i set the graphics on links? I ran links -g and it said.. svgalib: Cannot open /dev/svga [15:35] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-11-207.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [15:35] Is svgalib_helper module loaded? [15:36] firebird619: no, you fail sir! [15:36] compl3x: he's trying to say that the problem might be that you're a dumbass :P [15:36] hahahahaha [15:36] hahaha [15:36] antler: Oh how Ironic har har! [15:36] ;) [15:36] antler: that's another way to put it. :P [15:36] compl3x: ;) [15:36] compl3x: just joking of course. :) [15:36] :p [15:37] But holy crap if I waist one more dvd im going to shoot someone. [15:37] Action: compl3x waits for FBI to turn up [15:37] antler: Now that I changed pidgin to liberation 11, that has the best looking fonts on the whole system. :P [15:37] Action: compl3x realises he doesn't have FBI in his country [15:37] compl3x: you don't have female body inspectors? :P [15:37] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.41.176) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:37] firebird619: they stay away from me :p [15:37] haha [15:38] haha remind me of neil patrick harris on harold and kumar. [15:38] reminds* [15:39] Lord_Khelben: i found it but i can't figure the package name [15:40] it show me the installtion path with " cat ./* | grep cryptdir" where wd /var/log/packages/ [15:40] Action: init[1] wonders how k3b tested their software !! [15:41] nixmunch3: you have to rebuild links and if you use slackware's slackbuild you have to remove the --without-x and --without-sdl from it before building [15:41] init[1]: by burning thousands of kde iso's? :P [15:41] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:41] Action: compl3x mounts his dvd ;) [15:42] oh man, don't get dvd shrapnel all over. [15:42] ouch [15:42] hahaha [15:43] NukeDukem, well does elinks allow you to use -g like links? [15:44] i have no idea, slackware does not come with elinks and i have not built or used it [15:44] nixmunch3: doesn't for me - but i havent looked into it [15:44] so I just use links [15:44] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [15:45] I downloaded it from softpedia [15:45] do i have to delete the old one? [15:45] removepkg would be better than deleting it [15:46] wtf - k3b goosed my dvd and the md5 sums dont even match :@ [15:47] or pkgtool > remove > [*] links? [15:47] I guess that's because K* softs suck. MHO though :} [15:48] compl3x: WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE [15:48] ARE DISCLAIMED [15:48] lol [15:48] I am going to cry. [15:48] (0)_(-) ! [15:48] Action: compl3x goes for a smoke before he trashes every dvd related item near him [15:48] thanx [15:49] nixmunch3 (n=thytezzi@71.16.214.27) left irc: "Leaving" [15:50] hey can any one tell "crpytdir" is part of which utils ? " cat ./* | grep cryptdir" where wd /var/log/packages/ shows only installation path [15:50] stillborn (n=stillbor@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff71c100-46.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:51] elilo (n=elilo@141-3-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: "leaving" [15:51] Would anyone like to donate some hair? I just set fire to mine... not happy- [15:52] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.7.145) joined ##slackware. [15:52] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.71.8.152) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:53] compl3x: lol, you're bald now? [15:53] no - just missing an eye brow haha [15:53] kind of [15:53] lol [15:53] haha mythbusters - "Am I missing -- an eye brow?" [15:54] compl3x: just draw one on until it grows back. [15:54] firebird619: already got the old sharpie out :p [15:55] whoa, dude, you slipped, you have a unibrow now. good work ace. :P [15:55] Any suggestions on burning a dvd - so that hopefully it wont hang? [15:55] firebird619: thanks :p [15:55] suggestion #1 = don't mess it up. :P [15:56] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:56] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:56] firebird619: have a cooky and Pis* off ;) only joking :p [15:56] s/cooky/cookie [15:56] Action: firebird619 walks away. [15:56] :P [15:56] Action: firebird619 with cookie in hand. [15:57] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [15:58] compl3x: seriously though, try a cli tool for it and see if you get any errors. [15:58] firebird619: so, the font woes are over for now? :P [15:58] firebird619: like? [15:59] antler: with pidgin anyway. for the rest, I think there's room for improvement. [15:59] compl3x: growisofs, cdrecord, wodim, pick your poison. :D [16:00] firebird619: cdrecord does dvd? [16:00] antler: Some of the fonts, like in the terminal, look more like a monospace type font. [16:00] compl3x: yeah. [16:00] firebird619: aight [16:00] good luck man [16:00] firebird619: thankyou:p [16:00] firebird619: terminal as in in x? [16:00] don't lose another eyebrow in the process. [16:01] firebird619: :p [16:01] antler: yeah. sakura has the best looking font. Also, the font when I drop x isn't as good as it could be. Slackware, for me anyway, always has such nice fonts out of the box, I don't know what happened. [16:02] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "I'm not a quitter, I just had to go" [16:02] thus why I plan on removing the hidden folders and files from home (after backup of course) and seeing if that helps any. [16:02] If so, I'll go from there, if not, I can move the stuff back. [16:02] firebird619: yeah, as i was saying yesterday, (for me) the fonts in 12.1 looked amazing after some work. i just can't get 12.2 to look that good [16:03] tooly1 (n=theo@e178170160.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:03] yeah, it takes some work. [16:04] konsole's font looks quite nice as well. [16:04] firebird619: hehe you haven't done that yet? [16:04] firebird619: got any samples of writing dvd images using cdrecord - most things I find are using CD's [16:04] done what? removed the hidden folders/files? No, I have not yet. [16:04] it would be a task unlike changing the tranny on a car [16:04] firebird619: or does it not matter [16:05] compl3x: Umm, I'm not sure, let me check quick. [16:05] firebird619: yeah, copying those directories to another location :P [16:06] antler: your laziness has rubbed off, thanks a lot. :P [16:06] hahaha [16:06] :D [16:07] hm.... i guess curiosity is not a good reason to install slackware64 right now..... especially when 12.2 is more or less how i want it [16:08] compl3x: I think it'd be the same process, I was just looking to see if you had to specify dvd vs. cd or anything, which it doesn't look like you have to. [16:09] firebird619: okay ill give it a shot [16:09] compl3x: for example, cdrecord -v speed=8 dev=/dev/sr0 /path/to/iso [16:09] firebird619: sr0 [16:09] ? [16:10] compl3x: that's my burner, it's sata [16:10] firebird619: ah okay - illg ive that a shot [= cheers [16:10] um, do you have a sata burner? :P [16:10] antler: alright, I'm gonna backup my hidden folders/files and check. I refuse to fall victim to laziness like you have. [16:10] antler: yes, I have a sata burner. :) [16:11] I don't ]= [16:11] compl3x: ^^ [16:11] compl3x: do you? [16:11] aww [16:11] Answered before you asked. [16:11] Physcic [16:11] lol [16:11] you maybe psychic, but your spelling could use some work. :D [16:11] let the writing comense! [16:11] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) left ##slackware. [16:11] firebird619: or just remove the .font.config file and see what happens :P [16:11] firebird619: Ive had 3 hours sleep - girlfriend kept kicking me out of bed [16:11] firebird619: I can spell how I like ;) [16:12] antler: tried, no success. [16:12] compl3x: orly? :P [16:12] thats what couches are for compl3x [16:12] NukeDukem: we were both on a couch - long story [16:12] compl3x: now she'll for sure kick you with a sharpie unibrow. :P [16:12] firebird619: haha [16:13] long story? better pastebin it then. :P [16:13] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:13] compl3x: scissoring on the couch? [16:13] antler: of course :p [16:13] nice [16:13] scissoring? you lier, so that's now you lost the eyebrow. c'mon, be honest. [16:13] :P [16:13] s/now/how/ [16:14] sc /usr/lib/sc/tutorial.sc trying to learn sc and i am interested in making a checkbook register template thingy for it [16:14] firebird619: spelling dude ;) [16:14] well grammer [16:14] grammar XD [16:14] compl3x: yeah, but I FIX my errors. :P [16:14] and it's "spelling, dude" compl3x :P [16:14] hehe [16:14] haha [16:14] Action: compl3x crys ;) [16:15] compl3x: you lose again. HAHAHA. :P [16:15] and it's "cries" [16:15] hahaha [16:15] yay slackware on another machine [16:15] antler: thus the wink [16:15] and it's "thus, the wink" [16:15] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [16:15] lets see if i can convert my cousin to linux [16:15] so hahaha in your face :p [16:15] compl3x: you better quite while your ahead, if indeed you are even. :P [16:15] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [16:15] firebird619: Head Shoulders knee's and toes knees and toes [16:16] lol [16:16] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-231-220.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [16:16] yeah I quit [16:16] /quit ;) [16:16] haha [16:16] no its /wrists [16:16] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left ##slackware ("init 0"). [16:17] her windows had about 16 different antivirus/spyware programs running [16:17] compl3x: what a rough day, got kicked by gf (thankfully not in the tarballs), went through a bunch of dvd's, lost an eyebrow, gained a unibrow. Can it get worse? :P [16:17] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:17] it freezes after about 2 minutes because services.exe is taking 100% of cpu and memory [16:17] gained a unibrow? [16:17] like you woke up and there it was? [16:17] Urchlay: a joke from above. :P [16:17] firebird619: the unibrow I am proud of so :p [16:17] compl3x: ah, ok. :) [16:17] firebird619: a joke? eh eh eh [16:18] haha - yeah fortunatly I have my eyebrows [16:18] used to de-unibrow my face with a pair of needlenose pliers [16:18] I'm using the currently available svn of k3b, r978345 and it's been working great [16:18] rip the hairs right out [16:18] compl3x: Well, I say joke, you say pride. compromise? :P [16:18] Urchlay: wow [16:18] firebird619: :p [16:19] axius (n=tty@92.82.68.184) left irc: "Leaving" [16:19] most people use tweezers, but I didn't have any... [16:19] a buddy of mine can make his unibrow move like a catepillar [16:19] it's actually quite nasty [16:19] Anyone seen the cadburys advert from the UK? [16:20] Youtube cadburys eyebrows - my mate can do that , reall messed up [16:20] hahaha [16:20] that ad is wicked sick [16:20] spook you seen it? [16:20] my little bro once shaved his eyebrows [16:20] compl3x: yeah. [16:21] took me like an hour of talking to him to figure out why he looked so evil that day [16:21] I used to know a girl who shaved her eye brows - she drew them on with pen - it rain - I laughed - a lot [16:21] She always looked suprised! [16:21] compl3x: lol. [16:21] hahaha [16:21] firebird619: the front of my dvd burners getting hot ]= :p [16:22] compl3x: haha, if it starts smokin, run. :P [16:22] jumperboy (n=jorey@gl206.websiteproject.net) joined ##slackware. [16:22] firebird619: My lamp set on fire the other day - but a high watt bulb in it - the plastic on the outside melted [16:23] didn't notice cause I was smoking at the time, finished my smoke and nearly craped myself [16:23] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [16:23] 4am... [16:23] firebird619: md5 sums match! :D [16:24] Action: compl3x dances around the room [16:24] Action: antler smacks dive in the head with a well-written, grammatically correct argument. hey brit. [16:24] i'm thirsty [16:25] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:25] compl3x: many asians do that. was your friend asian? [16:25] antler: no - she was fat and had no friends, tbh she wasn't my friend [16:25] anyway on that note im off [16:25] laters guys [16:26] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "leaving" [16:27] Urchlay: Bullseye! [16:28] eh? [16:28] chroot + hardlinked socket = app runs? [16:29] Yup. [16:29] Need to clean some stuff up, but not to shabby. [16:29] excellent [16:29] s/to/too/ [16:29] firebird619: do you have xp as a guest in vbox? [16:29] what'd you have to do about the "no adobe fonts found" trouble? [16:29] My late english teacher father would club me for that. [16:29] antler: no, just windows 7. [16:30] Don't know. I think I installed the outline fonts with x. [16:30] http://tinypic.com/r/2le5su0/5 [16:30] ah [16:30] firebird619: in windows 7, is there an icon on the right hand corner of the taskbar that allows you to enable/disable network devices? [16:30] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434428.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:31] heret|c (n=heretic@c-24-30-117-194.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:31] antler: iirc, yes, there is. I know there's a networking icon, just can't remember what you could do from it. [16:31] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@207.216.231.220) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:31] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl9-119.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [16:32] firebird619: i tried installing 2.2.4 the other day; it kept crashing whenever i would enable/disable a network device [16:32] caoliver: you ought to write up a little howto and post it somewhere, in case some other poor soul needs to do the same thing [16:32] firebird619: now i'm back on 2.1.4 [16:32] 2.1.4? [16:32] Hmm, that's odd. [16:33] firebird619: yeah, was wondering whether it was just me [16:33] briareus: virtualbox 2.1.4 [16:33] ah [16:33] Yep. I think I can make it a bit safer. I did a fair bit of slap and dash while 'su -'. That needs cleaning up for general consumption. [16:33] my vbox is running right now, I can enable/disable network no problems visible, XP [16:33] mac_s_ (n=mac@sunrise.pi.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:33] antler: I just have one network device, but I'll try it after a bit here. [16:33] 2.2.2 [16:34] Anyhow, I need to wash up and give the critters some exercise. [16:34] briareus: would you mind trying to enable/disable several times? [16:34] mac_s (n=mac@sunrise.pi.net.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:34] sure [16:34] antler: I got the hidden files getting tarballed up as we speak. :) [16:34] ttyl, folk. [16:34] later caoliver [16:34] firebird619: the total size is large enough to warrant compression? :P [16:34] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left ##slackware. [16:35] antler: no problems [16:35] briareus: thanks :) [16:35] v2.2.2 [16:35] antler: yeah, I'm uncluding FF, opera, thunderbird, etc. which are into the GB's :) [16:35] err. including [16:36] woodoomagic: ovde mogu da te psujem :) [16:36] firebird619: oh, basically backing up /home/firebird619? [16:36] Is there a fancy command to rename all hidden files/folders and just append .back to them? [16:37] antler: Well, not everything, just the "." hidden folders/files. [16:37] jj_tomson (n=gts@189-041-58-064.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:38] for x in .*; do mv "$x" "$x".back; done [16:38] don't do that [16:38] there's probably a way with the 'rename' command too [16:39] cause . and .. will be matched by the .* [16:39] yeah but it wont let you rename those [16:39] probably cleaner to use for i in .[a-z0-9]* [16:40] .[a-zA-Z0-9] even better [16:41] got the riding lawnmower out today woo [16:41] be damned, I have some ancient dotfiles [16:41] Hey nix_chix0r, how are you? [16:42] not bad [16:42] $ ls -l .zgvrc [16:42] -rw-r--r-- 1 urchlay users 49 2000-04-08 03:10 .zgvrc [16:42] i slept in till 2pm:O [16:42] Urchlay: wow, clean you're /home up a bit. :P [16:42] i felt guilty about that [16:42] 2000? yow [16:42] $ ls -l .lessrc [16:42] -rw-r--r-- 1 urchlay users 114 1999-11-14 19:13 .lessrc [16:43] consequence of keeping my /home on a separate partition and copying it over when I get a new drive [16:44] antler: oh noes, the compression seems to be stuck. :( [16:45] antler: at least, it's been sitting on the same thing for a while now. [16:45] whoops, there it goes again, it's all good. [16:45] firebird619, keep thinking the baby is crying but hes not here lol [16:45] firebird619: hahah i was just about to say "serves you right" [16:45] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-179.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:45] nix_chix0r: lol [16:45] antler: haha [16:45] nix_chix0r: that's the first sign of losing your mind [16:46] first, oh I've seen signs weeks before now. :P [16:46] :D [16:47] pretty soon you'll be thinking that you solved fermat's last theorem [16:47] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-170-203-86.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:47] userdel -r fermat # I solve it thus! [16:48] You deleted your user? [16:48] :P [16:49] nix_chix0r: are you going to get a whole bunch done now with the baby not there? [16:49] yeah [16:53] why can't i be smart like fermat :( [16:55] oda (n=oda@189.120.165.49) left irc: "Leaving" [16:58] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-179.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:58] watch the interpreter --> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8ba_1244097788 [17:00] what's so funny about that? [17:00] sign is a language too... [17:01] she's not trying either, she IS explaining it... [17:04] nheco (n=nheco@200-203-65-38.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:07] elilo (n=elilo@141-3-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [17:07] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [17:08] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: [17:10] antler: The tarball operation is still in progress. :) [17:12] hahahahahahahhaha briareus [17:14] got a question, folks. I've just rewritten my ssh_config and I used a different port than 22. I then stopped and restarted sshd, but it insists on using port 22. ideas? [17:14] Nick change: arenics -> Arenics [17:15] Arenics (n=arenics@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: "leaving" [17:15] briareus: ssh_config isn't sshd_config [17:15] it would've been faster to just do a straight copy? zipping it up doesn't save THAT much space, does it? [17:15] oh for fucks sake how did I miss that [17:15] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434428.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:16] antler: haha, probably would have been faster, oh well. :P [17:16] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:19] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) left ##slackware. [17:21] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:22] hihi [17:22] =] [17:22] oh no! [17:22] :< [17:22] ;) [17:22] http://imagebin.ca/view/nl76hlw.html [17:22] feeling leet today [17:22] :P [17:23] Hey acidchild [17:23] linux supported spectrum analyzer :D [17:23] hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii [17:23] you have a wi-spy unit? [17:23] yup [17:23] oooo [17:24] few orinoco cards :D [17:24] and some big ass atennas :D [17:24] antennas* [17:24] antennae [17:24] rofl [17:24] stybla: do not PM without permission [17:25] PMS!!!!!! [17:25] antiwire: neat little thing, could do with some work on the software though [17:25] it produces raw data so i could maybe graph it to flash... [17:26] acidchild: Doesn't Dragorn from Kismet write the software for the wi-spy too? [17:26] yeah, look at the imagebin [17:26] spectools.. [17:26] yep [17:26] Nick change: jeev -> jeev__ [17:26] hey have you tried the latest Kismet yet? the newcore? [17:26] Nick change: jeev__ -> jeev [17:27] It's really nice but lacks gpsmap still [17:27] whoever came up with the term troll is a dipshit [17:27] i just downloaded the svn version, so i'm guessing so [17:27] acidchild: yeah that's it [17:27] this has gpsmap stuff [17:27] oh not it then [17:27] ahhh [17:27] tool so long to compile on this 1Ghz thingi [17:27] =/ [17:27] I asked Dragorn about gpsmap for newcore and he said nope. [17:28] No one is contributing patches so he takes that as no one uses it [17:28] :/ [17:28] :\ [17:28] I used it a lot but I'm not capable of helping [17:28] do almost all GPS work under linux? [17:28] is it illegal to 'map' WiFi nodes? [17:28] if it has a serial/usb/bluetooth connection, probably [17:28] no [17:29] be interesting to build a trailer for the bike to map nodes all over the city [17:29] Yep, it really gives you some insight [17:29] gar0t0 (n=casa@189.110.79.177) left irc: "leaving" [17:29] I've mapped my whole area [17:29] can i see? [17:29] Let me see if i can find the maps [17:29] woohoo [17:29] :> [17:30] brb though. [17:31] they're gone. I deleted them. They were from about a 6 months ago anyway (when I still used the gpsmap supported version) sorry [17:32] ksandros (n=ksandros@adsl239-107.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:32] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [17:33] hoho i got one! [17:34] dont call me a ho :< [17:34] Nick change: ksandros -> The-Croupier [17:35] nah you never call another bro a ho [17:35] antiwire: bros b4 hos ;) [17:35] lol [17:35] acidchild: pm ok? [17:36] yep :) [17:36] j00 guyz r cyb3ring? [17:37] akber0 (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [17:37] akber0 (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [17:38] akber0 (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [17:38] akber0 (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [17:38] they're having aural sex. At the end, they both have an eargasm. [17:38] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [17:38] that is so hot [17:38] that grass is like a foot long it was so hard to cut [17:39] akber0 (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [17:39] akber0 (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. 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[17:41] hey [17:41] i'll hold off what i really wana say [17:41] be nice [17:41] you some kinda racialist? [17:41] are you being rachel? [17:41] naw [17:41] dont be rachel to messicans [17:42] akber0 (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [17:42] akber0 (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [17:42] wtf [17:42] you can only have so much fun with a riding lawmower is all im sayin [17:42] op ? [17:42] jeev: I'm only kidding [17:42] my hands still feel all vibratey [17:42] not you [17:42] akber.. [17:42] jeev: I date a mexican and my dad is puerto rican [17:42] I ain't rachel [17:42] not you you turd [17:42] akber0's having worse connection issues than nix_chix0r does. :P [17:42] that's Mr. Turd to you jeev [17:43] take some mexicans from LA, infact, take all the younger ones [17:43] firebird619, i got nervous cause i went over the cable [17:43] Zordrak: fine then. [17:43] but we stil have internet so [17:43] nix_chix0r: nix_chix0r nix_chix0r nix_chix0r nix_chix0r <# [17:43] acidchild, sup bebe [17:43] nix_chix0r: haha, well, we know you didn't chop it to pieces. :P [17:43] that mower is such a piece of shit it's probally 20 years old the gears get stuck [17:43] nix_chix0r: getting blazed with a bro soon :P [17:43] wana join us? [17:44] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [17:44] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [17:44] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [17:45] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [17:45] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [17:45] i want Toberlone and Ritter Sport [17:45] oviously not! [17:45] acidchild, you've inherited 400,000,000 lbs of marijuana from africa, legally transferrable to wherever you're located. you must wire monies here to start the process [17:46] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [17:46] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [17:46] hahahahahaha [17:47] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [17:47] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [17:47] jesus [17:48] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [17:48] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [17:48] ##slackware: mode change '+o alienBOB' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [17:48] mac_s_ (n=mac@sunrise.pi.net.pl) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:48] hi alienBOB [17:49] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. 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[17:52] Nick change: briareus_ -> briareus [17:54] jeev: You're welcome [17:54] ha [17:54] Action: jeev smears feces all over Urchlay's face [17:54] you're welcome. [17:54] nix_chix0r is a redneck [17:55] that... is quite possibly the most disgusting thing I've ever heard you say, jeev [17:55] are smeared feces on faces the origin of the term "shit eating grin"? [17:55] lool [17:55] li-su (n=Aleena@116.68.100.98) joined ##slackware. [17:55] i dunno but i'm wondering if i should cancel charter right now and order u-vesre [17:55] u-verse [17:56] lul [17:56] i'm a redneckyeehaw [17:56] Action: antiwire sees jeev flapping in the wind! [17:56] hey guys, someone told me to have sql and apache working..i thought apache was like company/organisation.. has it something to do with DataBases? i am a little confused.. [17:56] yes you are nix_chix0r [17:56] punkass [17:56] i drink moonshine on my porch [17:56] your just an 'ass' [17:56] and listen to bluegrass [17:56] that got punked way too many times [17:56] The-Croupier: apache is your httpd on slackware [17:56] antiwire: ohh [17:57] The-Croupier: it's also an organisation ;) [17:57] The-Croupier: apache is the webserver and mysql is the DB... they are 'AM' in LAMP ;) [17:57] antiwire: the curses version of spectools [17:57] is kinda funny =P [17:57] acidchild: yeah, I've messed with the curses version of kismet a long time ago [17:58] I don't often use it now [17:58] i wonder if the new kismet will incorperate spectools [17:58] acidchild, i'm so bad bully me [17:58] i''m a bad dirty girl:| [17:58] you being a bad girl today? ;) [17:58] you need you daily spanking..mmkay [17:58] i see [17:58] nix_chix0r: I can make you dirtier [17:58] i didnt wear socks with my shoes mowing and i'm covered in grass [17:58] :o [17:58] grass stains are awesome [17:59] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-162-173.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:59] smeared over your butt [17:59] mmmm [17:59] uhhh [17:59] i think i killed all the wood ticks as well [17:59] Action: briareus gets lotion and listens to acidchild attentively [17:59] trailer park girls: the dirtier the feet, the hotter the heat [17:59] ahahah [17:59] LOL [17:59] acidchild, i dont think im going to england for christmas to visit the folks [17:59] come to Toronto then [17:59] :) [17:59] li-su (n=Aleena@116.68.100.98) left irc: Client Quit [17:59] i want to save my vacation for some where tropical [18:00] two weeks in the carribean [18:00] Defcon? :> [18:00] oh i'm definately going to defcon [18:00] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:00] your getting the left side of the bed sorry [18:00] hubby aint gona go. he doesn't really get into the hacking shit too much [18:00] so i have a babysitter [18:00] excellleennnttt! [18:01] well, the Darkscience peeps are going down then too [18:01] you should come get moshhheedd up with us [18:01] it's so nice i dont have to worry about him worrying about me [18:01] the whole jealousy thing [18:01] my girlfriends tripping out about me going to Costa Rica on business [18:03] http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/06/06/defcon-founder-named-to-homeland-security-advisory-council/ [18:03] haha [18:03] acidchild: is it one of those...it was just business baby..it didnt mean anything ;) [18:03] I've never take that job. oh man. [18:03] i've i'd* [18:03] you'd be the whipping boy [18:03] hi everybody [18:04] hi [18:04] acidchild: you are going to get into trouble and be suspected of cheating, and if you're going to do the time you might as well do the crime. [18:06] theres nothing wrong with going on a business trip [18:06] especially in costa rica... there is nothing there to worry about [18:06] nothing wrong with banging a local hottie in a steaming bungalow either [18:07] Action: The-Croupier laughs suspiciouly [18:07] zlinux_ (n=zlinux@79.172.135.248) left irc: Connection timed out [18:07] briareus: you watch too much pron man [18:07] Action: briareus eyes The-Croupier knowingly [18:07] The-Croupier: more like I don't watch enough. I'm always in pervert mode, but then I like women a lot. [18:07] briareus: now you are gone too far with the eyeing thing ;) [18:07] Action: The-Croupier thanks God he is a man ;) [18:08] i'm free pretty much to do what ever [18:08] me too, and I love it [18:08] nix_chix0r: we all are [18:08] gfs are as good as you teach/allow them to be [18:08] oh man brutal. [18:08] heh [18:09] haha [18:09] hey hitest [18:09] last night I was hanging out with my 3 buddies. Two of them are married. My buddy and I watched as the two married guys got in big trouble with the wives for doing nothing at all wrong. We praised Allah that we are unmarried. [18:09] In my country, girlfriend teach YOU [18:09] hi firebird619 [18:09] your girlfriend is a teacher? does she wear glasses? [18:09] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl5-182-88.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:09] this could go a very bad direction [18:09] Urchlay: yeyyyy boss, get the fantasy going [18:10] hahhahaha [18:10] hehe [18:10] wish I had a pic of my 10th grade biology teacher [18:10] antiwire: you were quicker ;) [18:10] she claimed to be over 25, none of us believed her [18:10] does she have big bosoms and keeps you after school for a private disciplinary lesson? [18:10] Urchlay: you werent uber enough then :( damn [18:10] he's wearing my pink cupcake pjs lol [18:10] nix_chix0r: where do you keep his testicles? [18:11] well when I was in 10th grade, we didn't have tiny little cameras (or cel phones) [18:11] glass jar on the mantle? :P [18:11] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:11] wtf haha [18:11] y0 chopp [18:11] Urchlay: in out school it was Mrs. Lundy. Luscious Lundy we called her. I'd love it when she'd come over and help with me with my typing, her big breasts resting on my shoulder and smelling her neck. Man I would sport wood. [18:11] How's it going? [18:11] Urchlay: how long ago was that? like 30? [18:11] firebird619: not so bad, yourself? [18:12] chopp: doing great, thanks. Weather's kinda crappy, but oh well. [18:12] am i the only one not having a teacher fantasy in early grades? [18:12] not that long ago... was in highschool in the late 1980s, graduated in 1990 [18:12] Action: The-Croupier became mean after high-school [18:12] hahahah [18:12] cel phones existed in 1988, but no high school kids had them (and none of them had built-in cameras) [18:13] the nokias ever so famous [18:13] they wouldn't let us bring cel phones into class because the fumes from the kerosene engine were considered a health hazard :) [18:13] i cant remember any of my teachers but my band teachers in 7-12 grades and one math teacher from the 6th grade... but then again i had help in the teenage years in the "memory loss" arena. [18:13] Urchlay: i couldnt say ..i was only 4 in 88 [18:14] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-232-200.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:14] The-Croupier: you are younger than both of my children. i feel old. [18:14] dtanner: you used to forget who you slept with the previous night?!! [18:14] heh [18:14] dtanner: sorry to make you feel old... i will never mention my age again ;) is that better? [18:15] wait no , you are in between the ages of my kids. my son is 22 and my daughter is 26 [18:15] dtanner: is your daughter single? can you set us up? [18:15] ugh NO =( [18:15] it's cool I'm 38 [18:15] well, are you rich or something? [18:15] briareus: hey man, no stuff like that with ppl we know [18:15] I got a good job and a clean record and everything. That story about me and that time in the place with the thing, that ain't true. [18:16] I thought I was 28 but i just checked with an age calculator and i'm 27 [18:16] dtanner: I have a 5 year old son, and a twenty nine year old son. beat that. :P [18:16] dtanner: how can he be rich, he is online on a sat night ;) [18:16] that's awesome! [18:16] chopp: =) [18:16] The-Croupier: haha [18:16] The-Croupier: It's still broad daylight here, 3:15pm [18:16] chopp: what beat what, that you have sex every 23years and you regret about it :p [18:16] Action: The-Croupier hides [18:16] briareus: sounds like a good resume except for "that hign" [18:17] thing* [18:17] dtanner: those stories about me, those ain't true. I'm a good sort. [18:17] risperidon (n=risperid@189.115.215.40) joined ##slackware. [18:17] my mind wants to always go faster than my fingers, thus the strange typos [18:17] briareus: =) [18:18] are you so old that you have yellowed toe nails you keep trimmed with an angle grinder? [18:18] haha, not yet! [18:18] i am 47 [18:18] NukeDukem: you do? :P [18:18] i lived through the 60's and 70's [18:18] i am 48 [18:18] and have minimal brain cell loss i am sure. [18:18] eww, this guy got a thumb bit off by a morea eel or something [18:18] dtanner: it's strange to me that in my 20s, I only wanted the girls in their 30s (the sex is best), but now that I'm in my late 30s, I keep getting this unexpected chemistry with younger twentysomethings, and then I remember all my girlfriends back then who went for the older guys. Now I'm that older guy, [18:18] so in bangkok, they attached a toe to his thumb [18:18] ewwy [18:19] not be, i am half braindead [18:19] serves your ass right bitch for feeding sausages to fish [18:19] briareus: My problem is, I keep getting older, they stay the same age... [18:19] if anyone is gonna tell me an eel isn't a fish, i dont care [18:19] Urchlay: that's a feature not a bug. [18:19] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [18:20] briareus: when i was divorced i was like 36 and dated a 20 year old ( couldn't even get her in a bar for a year ) that was an experience keeping up with her. [18:20] if only there were a way to swap brains... an 18-yr-old girl with the brain of a 35-yr-old would be about perfect [18:20] i am on my second wife, i think she will stick around [18:21] I dunno, I think the physical ideal is around 23 to 25, while the mental ideal is anything above 33. that's just my experience IMHO [18:21] i never married again [18:21] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:21] Urchlay: if you swap brains ..noone will ever get laid [18:21] I will never marry [18:21] briareus: good choice [18:21] the yougsters dont as it is..imagine that [18:21] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [18:21] Action: chopp slipped a nice young thang across the border on the way back from sturgis one year. OHH what a summer. :P [18:22] =) [18:22] lol [18:22] chopp, 11 year olds are illegal and immoral [18:22] so let me guess chopp , we prolly like the same kind of music , or at least or music roots are the same, mostly 70's rock [18:22] eeewww [18:23] ? [18:23] gross jeev! [18:23] that's what he said [18:23] a nice young thang [18:23] pupit1 (n=pupit@93.86.1.224) joined ##slackware. [18:23] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-231-220.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:24] pupit1 (n=pupit@93.86.1.224) left irc: Client Quit [18:24] speaking of music , i have been watching a lot of buckethead lately on youtube... that dude is crazy man! he can shred big time too [18:24] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn191.78-99-15.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [18:24] jescis (i=1000@adsl-80-49-150.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:24] oda (n=oda@c9516f78.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:24] jescis_ (i=1000@adsl-80-49-150.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:24] confrey (n=dario@94.162.180.169) left irc: "Sto andando via" [18:25] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) got netsplit. [18:25] nheco (n=nheco@200-203-65-38.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) got netsplit. [18:25] ikaiyu (n=ikaiyu@matsti.com) got netsplit. [18:25] MrJackson (n=MrJackso@173-86-46-72.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) got netsplit. [18:25] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) got netsplit. [18:25] duno what that is [18:25] speaking of watching things [18:25] bye bye hubbard :) [18:25] i've been watching efven more dirty jobs [18:25] monstro (i=1000@201-26-15-112.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [18:25] even though i've seen them all [18:25] antiwire: care to share those maps with me too? [18:25] Nick change: jescis_ -> jescis [18:25] argh , i forgot how to send parts/joins.quits to another window .. i cant stand my irssi # windows clutttered with those. [18:26] hey baby jessica [18:26] nheco (n=nheco@200-203-65-38.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) returned to ##slackware. [18:26] ikaiyu (n=ikaiyu@matsti.com) returned to ##slackware. [18:26] MrJackson (n=MrJackso@173-86-46-72.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) returned to ##slackware. [18:26] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) returned to ##slackware. [18:26] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: ":)" [18:26] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) returned to ##slackware. [18:26] dtanner: http://wouter.coekaerts.be/site/irssi/wclf [18:27] jeev, ;p you have no respect for anyone or anything do you? >:< [18:27] lol no [18:27] dtanner: make sure you do "/set window_check_level_first OFF" first [18:27] aight, thanks firebird619 [18:27] and then "/set window_check_level_first ON" when you're done setting things up. [18:27] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-231-220.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [18:28] yw [18:28] jescis: he's pretty open about that too [18:28] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.21.192) joined ##slackware. [18:29] darn tootn' [18:29] just because you can't use your brains part that controls your imagination means you have a right to keep doing what you always do ;p [18:29] dtanner: like so? http://www.rootshell.be/~nix4me/pub/irssi.jpg [18:29] why would i lie ? [18:29] jescis, you should respect the lack of brain in my head ;( [18:29] pupit1 (n=pupit@93.86.1.224) joined ##slackware. [18:30] pupit1 (n=pupit@93.86.1.224) left irc: Client Quit [18:30] chopp: exactly , but i would send them to a hidden window or the server window. but yes, that is what i want [18:30] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: "leaving" [18:30] Simbioz (n=simbiozz@190.96.35.36) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:31] i want a really good burger [18:31] there's less of a chance anyone can have jescis, except for me because I made it up based on my full name and other people besides me are named Jeremiah >.> [18:32] jebediah springfield [18:33] jeev, fu sucker >:< [18:33] hhah [18:33] do you know who that is [18:34] not really... but I have heard of him >.>(I think) [18:34] the guy who founded springfield in the simpsons [18:34] oh ok... [18:35] say sorry! [18:35] Action: jescis hasn't seen the simpsons for a while >.> [18:35] NEVER!! [18:36] jeev, how's this... [18:36] has anyone setup ati [18:36] Nick change: jescis -> a2fe [18:36] 's proprietary drivers in slack 12.2? [18:37] ArTourter (n=artourte@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:37] SuN (i=unices@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:38] hackedhead, I will after I get my main PC up and working again >.> ;) [18:38] pupit (n=pupit@91.150.106.150) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:38] jeev, whatcha think? [18:38] jeev, better nick? ;p [18:39] a2fe: he's speechless. :P [18:39] firebird619, haha :) [18:39] firebird619, you know what I mean by the nick? [18:39] i've got a fairly old card (Radeon 9600) and the binary from ati just fails to build a kernel module, undechiperable (to me) crap in the log [18:40] ? [18:40] better [18:40] a2fe: as far as what you changed it from and why? yeah. [18:40] hackedhead: you're basically screwed: that card's too old to be supported by the newer ATI proprietary drivers, and the older versions that do support the card, can't be compiled on newer kernels [18:40] a2fe is almost worse, "always wanting2 french eric" [18:40] jeev, I bet you can't guess what it means ;) [18:40] hackedhead: I suggest the open source radeon driver, it works pretty well [18:41] dunno, something to do with a motor ? [18:41] lol [18:41] Apple 2 For Ever :D [18:41] oh heh [18:41] Urchlay: the radeon driver that's part of X? or is this something fancier? [18:41] stupppppppppid [18:41] the one that's part of X [18:42] Action: a2fe hits jeev with his SSC and 5.25" floppy drive [18:42] hrmm.. so my problem is, using that (afaict) playing flash videos from the web is _death_ for the system [18:42] Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries [18:42] just run X -configure and be happy you have a functional GUI [18:42] it's a p3 900MHz, so that seems...w rong. [18:42] how can i see all these? [18:43] Nick change: a2fe -> jescis [18:43] hackedhead: I've never tried that... my box that has the older ATI card is a "media PC", only ever use mplayer to play videos [18:43] I prefer my real name 8in short nick >.> [18:43] a huge patch for fglrx exists around the Net for recent kernels... [18:44] The Amazing Internet - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1A9lYC3g-0 [18:44] time for a spaghetti burrito :D [18:44] Urchlay: conversely, i haven't tried playing "normal" media. but maybe i will explore that this evening and see what happens [18:45] appzer0: know where i might find it? i've not run into it.. [18:45] hmm lemme try to look in my history cache :/ [18:46] risperidon (n=risperid@189.115.215.40) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:46] alienBOB, ping [18:47] risperidon (n=risperid@189.115.215.65) joined ##slackware. [18:48] mac_s (n=mac@sunrise.pi.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:49] hackedhead: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16173 [18:50] dunno if it's worth it though... [18:50] Hmmm? [18:50] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [18:51] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:51] appzer0: thanks, i'll take a look [18:52] np [18:52] TestSlack (n=TestSlac@67.192.133.1) joined ##slackware. [18:52] ArTourter: you have a question? [18:53] it looks like i may have been using entirely the wrong version of the ati driver too [18:53] who knows. [18:53] alienBOB, you had at some point a problem with kde and eeepc_acpi [18:53] Does svga require a mouse? [18:54] where you couldn't get kde to come back after hibernation [18:54] err... svgalib [18:54] TestSlack (n=TestSlac@67.192.133.1) left irc: Client Quit [18:55] alienBOB, did you manage to resolve that problem? [18:55] http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:penUzfOlGMkJ:www.trap17.com/index.php/Css-Trick-Hide-Disabled-Internet-Explorer-Vertical-Scrollbar_t20688.html+remove+scroll+bar+stylesheet&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a [18:55] why doesn't that work [18:55] what's the point of google cache [18:55] TestSlack (n=TestSlac@67.192.133.1) joined ##slackware. [18:55] if it still tries to pull up the site [18:56] as I think I am having the same one but it goes beyond just resuming from hibernation [18:56] TestSlack (n=TestSlac@67.192.133.1) left irc: Client Quit [18:57] I have a eeepc and can resume just fine [18:58] TestSlack (n=TestSlac@67.192.133.1) joined ##slackware. [19:00] TestSlack (n=TestSlac@67.192.133.1) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:01] the problem I have is on a thinkpad where after leaving a kde4 session (slackware-current) to console or for hibernation, if I tried to go back to it, the screen would lock for a while and then kde4 desktop effect would be switched off [19:01] it was locking the machine entirely until I added e DRI section in the xorg.conf [19:02] but the problem seem to be related to update orders [19:02] and appeared since 2.6.29 was add to -current [19:03] I am trying to trace this bug but cannot find any lead [19:04] so you have a thinkpad and are using the eeepc_acpi kernel module? [19:05] where do you see eeepc anywhere in his description? [19:05] he began with asking about someone else's problem with kde and eeepc [19:05] im just confused [19:06] hey guys, problem: i have dynamips installed in my system..type dynamips,shows that its in /usr/bin/ if i ls -al there i can see it, if i try to specify executable path for it /usr/bin/dynamips its not there... [19:06] oh, I see [19:06] as the eeepc uses intel graphics as the thinkpad I though the issue was related to what alienBOB described in his changelog for the eeepc_acpi_scripts package [19:06] could one help, im trying to configure gns3..., i installed from sbo this time;) ive made it work before but from doing it by hand [19:06] _alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:07] _alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] did your thinkpad resume fine before using -current? [19:07] yes [19:08] can you resume when x window is not running ? [19:08] now where it gets funny is that when 2.6.29 was introduced kde was upgraded at which point the bug appeared, [19:09] then kde got upgrade again (without any kernel update) and the bug disappeared [19:09] now that the kernel was updated, (without any kde update) the bug reapeared [19:10] if the X session is only on kdm (not logged in) I don;t have the problem [19:10] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:14] tank-man, as I said, it goes beyound the resuming issue, it is really coming back to kde after leaving it, which resuming is one example [19:14] compl3x (n=compl3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [19:14] ojg (n=ojg@c-83-233-228-68.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:14] Hey all [19:15] Action: compl3x is on windows 7 and is not proud of it [19:17] heretic! [19:17] ArTourter: I had my issues with resuming from suspend. I never hibernaded my eeepc because I do not have a swap partition where I can hibernate to [19:17] But, at the moment I can successfully go into suspend, and then resume later [19:17] wb compl3x [19:18] Hey firebird619 [= [19:18] eeepc ftw [= [19:18] my little OLPC XO hibernates flawlessly [19:18] alienBOB, did you update to the latest kernel from -current? [19:18] compl3x: Windows 7 eh? Why would you do such a thing to yourself? :P [19:18] firebird619, I have no idea. But just feels like using kde4 [19:19] ArTourter: I am running 2.6.29.4-smp yes [19:19] I really shoudln't have mentioned hibernate, that really was a red herring [19:19] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-190.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:19] But I also run KDE 4.2.4 [19:20] Linux 2.6.29.4 i686 GNU/Linux [19:20] ah! which you compiled before or after the kernel update? [19:20] After [19:20] so my theory still holds.... [19:20] In fact, kde 4.2.4 is about to go out [19:20] sweetness! [19:20] ArTourter: this only happens when you go in to hybernation while logged in as a user? try it while logged in as root, (you mentioned it did not happen going in to hybernation when logged out) [19:20] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-170-203-86.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:20] /var/log/packages/dynamips-0.2.8rc2-i486-1_SBo --> this is not the executable path of it ..is it? [19:20] compl3x: surely ked4 runs better [19:21] thumbs, of course it does [19:21] minor versions of kernels and kde shouldn' tbreak suspend. do you use kde's event stuff, or acpi ? [19:21] I have the impression that there is something in kde which wants to be recompiled after a kernel change, that what the pattern I describe above indicate [19:22] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:22] suspend/hibernate it irrelevant [19:22] going to console and coming back to a already logged in session of kde breaks it [19:23] are you on a custom kernel ? sorry, I missed that [19:23] alienBOB: cool. that sounds good. I'm finding KDE 4.2.2 in FreeBSD a bit buggy. Looking forware to KDE 4.2x in Slackware64 [19:23] forward [19:23] thrice`, no I follow -current on that machine [19:24] that doesn't mean you don't use your own kernel :) strange [19:24] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:24] true, but no I don't [19:24] I no longer get sound with my eeepc [19:24] KDE moans about HDA Intel device not working/found [19:24] I can't get svgalib to work without a mouse. it tells me it can't initiallize the mouse. And I don't have one hooked up :\ [19:25] What can I do? [19:25] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [19:25] ArTourter: a problem with "going to console and coming back" is an X.Org intel driver issue [19:26] Urchlay: interesting development: got fglrx to install, it seems. flash still kills the system (85% of cpu) [19:27] right-click the flash video, see if there are any useful video-related options? (like enable/disable hardware acceleration?) [19:27] bbiab [19:28] alienBOB, that what I thought originally but it is only linked to dri in this case and it works fine on the previous kernel (2.6.29.2-smp) which was updated before kde4.2.3 was added to -current [19:28] compl3x (n=compl3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "Leaving" [19:28] X along all this time has not changed but the problem has appeared and disappeared throughout [19:28] hmm.. actually.. fglrx may not be loaded after all... [19:32] hackedhead: lsmod|grep fglrx [19:32] but even if the kernel module is loaded, X may not be using it (check your xorg.conf) [19:33] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("()"). [19:33] if you can get glx or dri working with the generic xorg driver consider yourself fortunate [19:33] Urchlay: yeah, it appears the module failed to load and it fell back to vesa [19:34] looks like it's a pci_msi thing, i'm gonna compile a new kernel and see where that gets me [19:34] ugh, vesa? [19:34] just changing the driver in xorg.conf from vesa to radeon might be enough to fix flash [19:35] ok, so say i wanted to make a folder named "mp3" inside 12 directories with the title of Buddha Bar, Vol 1 through 12 [19:35] Urchlay: i think one of my attempts to install fglrx hosed radeon, since it no longer works [19:36] my thinking tells me, ok "mkdir Buddha*/mp3 && mv Buddha*/*.mp3 Buddha*/mp3" [19:36] but this is a fail line [19:36] whats the alternative? [19:36] icarus: use a for loop and [1-12] ? [19:36] ive wondered this with the terminal, ive needed to do a few similar jobs before, and never come up with much better than just doing it one by one, like a bitch [19:37] hackedhead: interesting, ill have to look this up [19:37] icarus: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html [19:37] hackedhead: appreciated [19:37] that gets me through all my bash scripting =] [19:37] np [19:38] for i in {1..12}; do mkdir "Buddha Bar, Vol $i/mp3"; done <--- something like that? [19:38] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.132.18) joined ##slackware. [19:38] the thing is, theres actually two subdirectoires as well [19:38] well, adjust as needed, of course [19:39] Urchlay: experimenting away! [19:39] important thing is the {1..12} syntax [19:39] this must be learned! [19:39] you'll get it, you have the right attitude at least [19:41] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[19:49] no, slackpkg (and slackware's package tools in general) only deal with binary packages [19:50] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*i=buffer@*.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org expired. [19:50] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*i=buffer@*.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:50] maybe; not sure how it'd be easier than wget, though [19:51] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [19:51] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [19:51] josteint: in other words there's no slackware equivalent of a .src.rpm if that's what you're thinking about [19:51] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:52] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [19:52] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [19:52] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:52] er, that DIR I just pasted is the equivilant [19:53] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [19:53] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [19:53] i see a large qt-r964497.tar.xz file in source/l/qt/. shall i just uncompress it manually, or can i use installpkg? [19:53] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-162-173.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [19:53] josteint: ok, your asked for the source. what are you trying to do ? that .tar.xz *is* the qt source tarball [19:54] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [19:54] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [19:55] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [19:55] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [19:55] i need the source code to compile some qt bindings [19:55] why would you use "installpkg" on source ? [19:55] so since these are the source code files, there is no install path for it? [19:55] i see [19:55] but a natural place to put it would be? [19:56] russo (n=russo@about/goats/goatjockey/russo) left irc: "it's all over :X" [19:56] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [19:56] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [19:56] Action: thrice` hopes someone will ban "free.dancing.bot" :> [19:56] maybe i will just put it in /usr/lib/qt/src [19:56] on slackware-12.2 i rolled my own qt & kde and put them in /usr/local to keep it separate from the rest of the system in /usr [19:57] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [19:57] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [19:57] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:57] wait a sec. What are you compiling that requires the full qt source? [19:57] NukeDukem: so /usr/local is a dir where slackware does not put its packages? one can put your own libraries there? [19:57] normally you only need the headers (which are already installed on slackware) [19:57] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:57] Urchlay: qt generator [19:57] josteint: I use /usr/local as pretty much the same thing. [19:58] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [19:58] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [19:58] yup, pat leaves /usr/local empty in slack, you could use that if you wanted to [19:58] a local dump, that is... for the most part I put stuff that I compiled w/o a slackbuild there (as it's the default ./configure option..) [19:58] NukeDukem: i use that too [19:58] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [19:59] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [19:59] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [19:59] Urchlay: i need to set QTDIR where qt is installed [19:59] NukeDukem: for your own kde wouldn't /opt be a better home? [19:59] or you can simply put the source code wherever you want inside the home directory of the user you are going to compile qt as :) [19:59] NukeDukem: then you could selectively include or perclude the path in your profile. [20:00] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [20:00] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [20:00] look at /etc/profile /usr/local is a default path [20:00] josteint: normally QTDIR is already set, for a login shell [20:00] Urchlay: tried radeon, works okay for media off a cd, but still no fun for flash [20:01] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [20:01] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [20:01] Urchlay: it was not set. i set it to locate the header files. it found them, but i think it requires the cpp files as well. i will check that up [20:01] josteint: what are you running? slackware 12.2? [20:01] current [20:01] 12.2 still has qt3 [20:02] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [20:02] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [20:02] what you're trying to compile is for qt4? can you maybe give me a link to their home page? [20:02] (googling was inconclusive...) [20:02] sure. http://labs.trolltech.com/page/Projects/QtScript/Generator [20:03] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [20:03] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [20:04] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [20:04] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [20:04] ok, I grabbed their latest svn, it's building nicely on my -current box [20:05] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [20:05] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [20:05] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:05] yes, first build the generator and run it. QTDIR must be set before running the generator. it will output a lot of warnings, but that is ok [20:05] then run make in qtbindings... that fails for me [20:06] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [20:06] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [20:06] NukeDukem: I realize that /usr/local is a default path. I'm saying that using /opt you can include or not include those binaries/libraries at will. [20:06] so I'm betting your problem is that you're using something like Konsole, which doesn't run a login shell by default. Go look in your terminal's prefs/options and find the checkbox or whatever to run a login shell [20:06] ive done this maybe times before, but with slackware-current it does not run. i think that is because it requires the source [20:06] ok, still waiting for the generator to compile... [20:06] i am running xtrem [20:06] sure, you can also do that to /use/local too [20:07] yah, did you start it with "xterm -ls" or set the appropriate option in .Xdefault? [20:07] lostnhell (n=lostnhel@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:07] ok, once the generator is built, how are you running it? [20:07] no, not -ls. but the QTDIR is fine [20:08] before i was running 12.2 and installed qt manually by compiling it. takes ages though [20:08] done with compiling the generator? [20:09] russo (n=russo@about/goats/goatjockey/russo) joined ##slackware. [20:09] yeah, and ran it once without arguments (like you said, about a thousand warnings) [20:09] yup [20:09] and yeah, it fails while trying to build qtbindings [20:09] then go to ../qtbindings [20:09] run qmake && make [20:10] can anyone recommend a good dvd authoring tool for slackware and slackware64, it seems the gtk libs are wrong to use devede [20:10] done that. It compiles a few files, then dies with ../../generated_cpp/com_trolltech_qt_core/qtscriptshell_QFutureIterator.cpp:10: error: no matching function for call to 'QFutureIterator::QFutureIterator()' [20:10] i see. i will try with the source now. just finished downloading it [20:10] It doesn't look like having the qt source available, has anything to do with that [20:10] Urchlay: maybe you are right... [20:10] i remember a guy at work had problems with qfutureiterator. he's on mac [20:11] he solved by blacklisting it [20:11] though other cpp files failed aswell [20:11] The following dependencies have been found: [20:11] glibc-solibs >= 2.9-i486-3 [20:11] so futureiterator is unavailable for him... [20:11] guys, this is on my system ;) is this ok if gotten from requiredbuilder? [20:11] or does that mean i have to update / downgrade that pkg? [20:12] you can pet a cat and pet a dog but can you petaflop? [20:12] or does it just mean that its just a dependency i have to be aware of? [20:12] not being a Qt expert, I can't really say for sure... but it looks like the Qt API changed a bit, generator's looking for a method whose signature got changed... [20:13] Urchlay: i agree. i see on the webpage that it is for qt 4.4 [20:13] i have a talk with the #qt people [20:13] is that for me guys [20:13] i will let you know if i get an answer [20:13] thanks for trying, Urchlay [20:14] hm. -current's qt version is r964497, I don't know how (if) that can be translated to a 4.whatever version number... [20:14] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-142-95-240.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:14] qmake --version tells me "Using Qt version 4.5.1" [20:15] anyway. In answer to your original question: you don't need the entire Qt source installed, headers + libs would be enough [20:16] nophis (i=1000@unaffiliated/nophis) joined ##slackware. [20:18] A_666_A (n=xxx@201-43-56-164.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:18] A_666_A (n=xxx@201-43-56-164.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware. [20:19] Hi all. I'm having problems to run Azureus on Slackware current with jdk 6u13. Azureus close while starting... Anyone having same problem? [20:19] this is the description of slackware-current's qt 4.5.1 version: "qt-rXXXXX is actually qt-copy (kde's own version that might be slightly incompatible with released version) renamed. you can grab the vanilla if you need it" [20:19] sidmario (n=xxx@201-43-56-164.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:19] josteint: hm. I wonder if the problem is still that it's 4.5.1 instead of 4.4.x [20:20] i am pretty sure i for it working with 4.5 at work... [20:20] nophis: forget Azureus, use transmissionbt or ktorrent [20:20] but it was from qt. not kde's version [20:20] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [20:20] yeah... in that case, be careful not to screw up your existing qt stuff, when installing the other version [20:20] if i remember correctly guys.qt can have multiple versions running at the same time and it wouldnt really matter [20:21] if one installed an older version wouldnt it fix the problem? [20:21] or maybe try? [20:21] yeah, /usr/lib/qt-$VERSION and set QTDIR and/or QT4DIR as needed [20:21] I think an older version (4.4.x) might help here, I don't know enough about Qt to say for sure though [20:23] what on earth is this glibc-solibs, i have the version needed but seems ill have to reinstall. does anyone know if it is part of a bigger pkg, or just by itself? cos google gives me some randoms [20:23] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable213.189-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "leaving" [20:24] russo (n=russo@about/goats/goatjockey/russo) left irc: [20:24] huh? [20:24] The-Croupier: what was the question again? [20:25] glibc-solibs-2.9-i486-3 [20:25] AFAIK, that's the latest version from -current, how were you planning to upgrade it? :) [20:25] is it part of some bigger pkg, or just by itself [20:25] it's its own package, from the a/ series [20:26] Urchlay: damn, im trying to configure/make pkg for barnyard [20:26] lostnhell (n=lostnhel@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:26] there is none around, nor a slackbuild anywher and requiredbuilder got me that result [20:26] what the heck is requiredbuilder? [20:27] Urchlay: well what do you know... it worked with the source code ... [20:27] oh wait... it stopped [20:27] but with another file [20:27] josteint: the source to official qt4.5.1, not qt-copy? [20:27] qt-copy [20:27] odd [20:28] RequiredBuilder is a simple tool to help Slackware packages developers finding dependen- cies of a package and in particular writing the slack-required file for the slapt-get's dependency checking. It scans the package directory tree and finds all the binary depen- dencies using ldd. Besides it's able to identify scripts that need perl or python, or [20:28] classes tat need java. After collectting dependecies it adds them to the slack-required file using the informations in /var/log/packages. [20:28] either there is some bogus with qt-copy of 4.5.1, or 4.5.1 does not work with generator [20:28] qt generator is some experimental stuff. i will just install 4.5.0 and use that. i know that will work [20:28] The-Croupier: ok... so requiredbuilder is telling you that whatever you're messing with, requires glibc-solibs greater or equal to the version you have installed... isn't that what it's supposed to do? [20:29] Urchlay: but it is true that you said; API has some changes [20:30] josteint: that's one reason I never got heavily into Qt development: it's quite the moving target [20:30] at least, Qt4 is [20:30] Urchlay: yes, aparently [20:30] plus I'm one of those old farts who prefers C to C++ :) [20:30] but it is a damn good library [20:30] but the problem is that i have that version installed on my current [20:30] and extremly well documented [20:30] josteint: no argument there [20:30] and i dont see anything else newer [20:31] The-Croupier: I don't understand why that's a problem [20:31] me neither [20:31] uhhh, so what... are you asking about? [20:32] are you writing your own slackbuild script here, or trying to use someone else's, or trying to install a binary package, or what? [20:32] make is not wroking aparently cos i need that pkg, that is already there..., is there a makepkg command that will tell me what is doing at any point [20:32] trying to make pkg, by hand [20:32] Urchlay: hmm... i still need qt generator. i will download 4.5.0 official source code and try that. i will still run 4.5.1 binaries [20:32] makepkg does not run any such thing as requiredbuilder [20:32] without the script step by step [20:32] Urchlay: think that's ok? [20:32] josteint: worth trying, at least [20:33] The-Croupier: so one of your steps is to run requiredbuilder? why? [20:33] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-138-204.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:33] Greetings MLanden, How are you? [20:33] Urchlay: to see if i need anything i dont have in my system [20:33] Heya,folks...How's everyone? [20:33] zlinux[] (n=zlinux@79.172.136.129) left irc: "Leaving" [20:33] hiya MLanden [20:34] Fine thanks firebird619 and yourself? [20:34] I'm good, MLanden:) you? [20:34] lol [20:34] MLanden: doing excellent, thank you. [20:34] Hello again hitest. :) [20:34] hiya,The-Croupier [20:34] hey firebird619:) [20:34] MLanden: how are you doing? [20:34] Doin' great for the evenin',thanks hitest [20:34] hitest: your day going good? [20:34] hahah im starting to get lost with all these greetings [20:34] Urchlay: btw, are you running slackware-current? [20:35] Doin' great,The-Croupier thanks [20:35] firebird619: yeah, having a good day, ty:) my chest cold is on its way out. feeling good. [20:35] guys, what is the full makepkg command for making a package [20:35] hitest: that's good, it sure stuck around long enough. [20:35] makepkg someName.tgz right? [20:35] The-Croupier: man makepkg [20:36] there are several options you may want [20:36] eviljames: did already [20:36] MLanden: good to hear. yw:) [20:36] josteint: slackware64-current, yeah [20:37] The-Croupier: wait, this is you making your own .tgz package? If it compiles, by definition you have everything you need... [20:37] firebird619: agreed. thankfully just a cold. now I can enjoy the nice weather. [20:37] The-Croupier: or is this a binary-only piece of software you're talking about? [20:37] im talking about barnyard [20:38] i got the barnyard gz, tar zxvf barnyard.gz [20:38] configure [20:38] requiredbuilder on it [20:38] then run makepkg [20:38] WTF is that? googling for it shows me a bunch of unrelated-looking stuff [20:38] (eh, well, stuff related to some movie called barnyard) [20:39] Urchlay: barnyard is a snort plugin thingie [20:39] Urchlay: oh, cool. maybe about the current? i just switched to current myself from 12.2. i feel a bit ...unsafe. is this really stable? [20:39] josteint: im loving current, lots of things to do ;) [20:39] josteint: so far it hasn't exploded on me, I've got 17+ days uptime :) [20:39] ive got 2days uptime ;) [20:39] i use kde 4.2 and... sometimes the computer just freezes for no particular reason. it was crashing at first when virtualbox had vtx enabled, but that is disabled now... [20:40] heh. Found barnyard homepage: SourceForge.net is offline... [20:40] Sorry for the inconvenience. [20:40] at least at work i run fluxbox. feel that it is more safe than to run vanilla kde [20:40] The-Croupier: I will be losing my uptime soon, been putting off upgrading the kernel [20:41] Urchlay: yeah..that sucks..ive been trying to find lots of things for that site but its been ofline for like 4hours [20:41] are you current guys and girls running kde? [20:41] not I [20:41] josteint: i am ;) for a bit [20:41] neither I [20:41] josteint: windowmaker [20:41] Action: The-Croupier usually runs fluxbox, or xfce [20:41] fluxbox is very clean and minimalistic. love it, but kde is really nice too. i just love the graphics!! [20:42] fvwm! [20:42] well, and I'm trying to run one KDE app (k9copy version 2.3.2) but it's misbehaving, possibly because it's not 64-bit clean [20:42] NukeDukem: if I hadn't lost my old .fvwm2rc stuff I'd probably try fvwm2 again [20:42] bad app, some spanking might be in order ; [20:42] (all I remember about fvwm2 config is that it took me ages to get it just like I wanted it) [20:42] i have a custom bare-bones .fvwm2rc [20:43] The-Croupier: looking for someone to try my slackbuild on 32-bit slackware-current [20:43] any fluxbox people here? [20:43] Urchlay: pastebin it [20:43] ill try it. [20:43] i have 32-bin slack-current [20:44] cool [20:44] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.21.192) left irc: "Leaving." [20:45] http://pastebin.ca/1450237 [20:45] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.2.87.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [20:46] you need dvdauthor, libmpeg2, and ffmpeg (and all its many depends) [20:46] eh, and mencoder if you're going to rip to divx/avi/whatever [20:48] Urchlay: line 42, why are you removing the source and then untaring it? [20:48] on line 43? [20:48] removing the source directory, not the source tarball [20:49] (standard thing for slackbuild scripts to do) [20:50] when, or if my computer crashes again running slackware-current, how shall I locate the program or modules which freezed the computer? the keyboard as well as the sound freezes. i remember one time that all i was running was kde and firefox, and freeze... [20:51] gentoo?! i have nothing of gentoo in my system.. [20:51] smica (n=smica@h129-138.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [20:51] i see in the download gentoo?! what are you running Urchlay [20:51] josteint: Any errors come up in the logs? [20:52] josteint: keep a slax live CD or bootable usb thumbdrive around for emergencies when slackware wont boot [20:52] The-Croupier: that's just an alternate location to download the sources from, because freaking sourceforge is down today [20:52] The-Croupier: there's nothing special about the copy of the source from the gentoo site, it's just a copy of the one from sourceforge [20:53] MLanden: you mean dmesg? will it be cleaned after rebooting? [20:53] josteint: yes [20:53] Urchlay: trying to get all the stuff i dont have for it ;) libs and such [20:54] The-Croupier: yeah, time consuming process [20:54] NukeDukem: it boots after the crash. but i crashing is no fun [20:54] donito (n=dshuff@cpe-98-28-236-229.woh.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:55] The-Croupier: when it crashes, should i boot with the slack cd and mount the hd to check dmesg so that it does not clear the dmesg? [20:55] josteint: hm. You're having lockups/crashes, that's on -current or 12.2? [20:55] Urchlay: current [20:55] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@plns-208-111-228-127-pppoe.dsl.plns.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:55] try something not KDE, see if the problem goes away :) [20:55] Urchlay: yeah... i guess that would work. i will keep that in mind if it crashes again [20:56] er, while it's frozen like that, have you tried pinging it from another box (assuming you have another one)? [20:56] if it pings OK, you might be able to ssh into it, and run "top", look at dmesg, all that good stuff [20:56] i have had many problems with last.fm plugin for firefox crashing... could that possibly crash the computer?... [20:56] russo (n=russo@about/goats/goatjockey/russo) joined ##slackware. [20:56] Urchlay: have not tried pinging the computer after crash. will try that also next time [20:57] josteint: besides dmesg, I was referring to the debug log as well in /var/log [20:57] Urchlay: very interesting. almost as if i hope it will crash soon :) [20:57] probably the entire machine isn't crashed. Probably it's just the X server (which would take out your mouse and keyboard, but not affect the network or remote logins) [20:57] russo (n=russo@about/goats/goatjockey/russo) left ##slackware. [20:57] Johnny Cash is on PBS in a few minutes (top of the hour) [20:57] folsom prison [20:57] http://pastebin.com/m1308bb8d <--- Why men are happier. :) [20:57] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:58] Urchlay: hmm...ok. so X takes out the keyboard. then i mos def will try to connect with ssh next time [20:58] NukeDukem: got a handy streamable URL for that? [20:58] check PBS website is the best guess [20:58] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:58] MLanden: i will check more into logs [21:00] firebird619: lol [21:01] whoa, poor the-croupier, my beta-test slackbuild script somehow killed him :( [21:01] MLanden: When you think about it, how true are most of those are. :) [21:01] s/those are/those/ [21:01] very true,firebird619 [21:01] firebird619: a lot of true stuff there :) [21:01] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:01] Urchlay: you killed him, what is wrong with you. :P [21:02] You took his terminal right out from under him. [21:02] I swear, Your Honor, I didn't know it was loaded! [21:03] hahaha [21:03] firebird619: 'specially,the comment on if it's icky...just hold your breath and get 'er done...:D [21:03] for a minute I expected you to say "You killed him. But I thought you liked him!" (rocky horror flashback...) [21:04] hahaha [21:04] lol [21:11] just thoughta something. That build script really will fail near the end, due to missing slack-desc file. Wonder if he knows he can "touch slack-desc" [21:11] hmm kethry++ for getting me Leffe Blonde \o/. [21:12] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:15] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.2.87.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:15] TestSlack (n=TestSlac@67.192.133.1) joined ##slackware. [21:16] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [21:16] hey [21:16] heya,compl3x [21:16] wb yet again compl3x [21:17] hey firebird619 :) [21:17] Anyone know an rsync mirror that would have mirrored the current upgrades already? [21:17] Slackbuilding!! [21:19] TestSlack (n=TestSlac@67.192.133.1) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:22] compl3x: still on win 7? [21:23] firebird619: f*** no :) [21:23] thank gosh. :P [21:23] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Connection timed out [21:23] My question stands :p [21:23] orly? Which question is that? Did I miss something? [21:24] "Anyone know an rsync mirror that would have mirrored the current upgrades already? [21:25] Ah, that one. Not sure about that. Did you check slackware.osuosl.org? I'm not sure if they have rsync though. [21:25] yes I usually use osuosl [21:25] ah ill just wait till the morning [21:25] anyway should get some sleep - laters [21:25] later [21:25] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "leaving" [21:26] eh, which current upgrades is he talkin about? [21:26] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:26] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:26] I don't know [21:27] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [21:27] ftp.slackware.com shows nothing past june 3 [21:28] oh, wait, yes it does, I was looking at a cached copy [21:28] lol [21:28] "Sat Jun 6 16:43:18 CDT 2009 [21:28] This batch of updates includes KDE 4.2.4. " [21:29] am not in a great hurry, can wait until something faster than ftp.slackware.com has it [21:30] The mirrors I've checked are still at the June 3rd update in the changelog. [21:30] I'm pulling it from slackware.com now. [21:31] as I'm not even running KDE, I'll avoid wasting slackware.com's limited bandwidth :) [21:31] rsync.slackware.at usually gets updated pretty quick and it's fast. [21:35] I really wish I could say I had something better to do on a Saturday night than sit around waiting for Slackware mirrors to update [21:35] but my car's *still* in the shop (been over a week now) [21:35] clavius (i=James@unaffiliated/clavius) joined ##slackware. [21:35] is there a dos emulator supported in cli slack 12.2? [21:35] wow, what's taking so long Urchlay. [21:36] a week? sounds like thats gonna be expensive. [21:36] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.47.112) joined ##slackware. [21:36] jescis : depends on your defintion of 'supported'. no, one doesn't come with slackware [21:36] bbl, supper time:) [21:36] later hitest, have a good supper. [21:37] ananke, ah ok. [21:38] anyone running gnome? if so any recommendations on which gnome build to use. I see GSB just released it for 12.2 [21:38] hrm, I just got an email asking if I'd be willing to do an interview for hackerpublicradio.org [21:39] are you famous ? [21:39] apparently [21:40] but man, it must be a couple of kids in their parents' basements... the site is littered with typos [21:41] "How to Build your own Kernal" | "Linguistic PUblic Radio" [21:41] hakcerpubicradio.org? :) [21:42] heh [21:42] firebird619: apparently he's having to remove & dismantle the whole damn transmission, to replace the bit that has a hole in it [21:42] why do they want you on ? [21:42] "Licnese" [21:42] he said it can't be welded (not sure why exactly) [21:44] Urchlay: ouch, that sucks. [21:44] have a bike? :P [21:44] mmlj4: "kernal" is the actual name of the bios-equivalent on the commodore 64, but I don't know how they can build one from source (commodore never released the source AFAIK) [21:46] I got an rss feed from slackware.it on todays updates, but it surprises me that slackware.com/changelog isn't updated yet. :P [21:46] chopp: it is, push refresh [21:46] before my time... well, not really, but my parents never wanted to spend the hundred bucks or so back then... didn't actually use a computer until I got to LSU, around 1982 [21:47] and then it was all IBM mainframe [21:47] ananke, what dos emu do you suggest to use? dosbox needs sdl and I don't know how to configure it(I haven't googled for an answer neither yet >.>) [21:48] mmlj4: you got to play with a much cooler computer than I did in 1982, then [21:48] I'd rather not need sdl personally >.> [21:48] jescis: slackware ships with sdl [21:50] thrice`, I didn't have it installed till now though. [21:52] jescis : what do you want to accomplish? [21:53] ananke, I need to use ADT to transfer files from my Apple IIe to/from my PC [21:53] and ADT(not ADTPro) is windows/dos only :\ [21:54] unless... I could compile ADT from source >.> [21:55] Urchlay: I used to poke around the filesystem in between assignments... every once in a while I'd hit a system file, and get a huge warning about trying to access a protected file [21:56] what OS did it run? [21:56] scared me to death, I thought they'd lock my account or something [21:56] haha [21:56] mmlj4 is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported! [21:57] no doubt [21:57] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System/360 maybe? I don't remember [21:57] ananke, Also, I don't have enough ram for jre to run neither on this machine because there's only ~131000K of RAM(SIMM) :\ [21:58] Action: jescis is on a PII Gateway 2000 PC >.> [21:59] the jre used to be able to run on 128M of RAM, back when that gateway was new... [21:59] it wasn't *fun* to use it, but it was supposed to work... [21:59] jescis : ouch [22:00] jescis : you know, for $10 you could have a much better machine [22:00] clavius (i=James@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:00] ananke, yeah? where? [22:01] jescis : thrift store. [22:01] jescis : or check your local cragislist [22:01] clavius (i=James@unaffiliated/clavius) joined ##slackware. [22:01] Also this is only supposed to be a server. But my main pc isn't working right now >< [22:01] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [22:01] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [22:02] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [22:02] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [22:03] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [22:03] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [22:03] doesn't jre only need like 64mb to run [22:03] maybe to run a "hello world" program :) [22:04] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [22:04] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [22:04] meh thats jsut what it says on the jvava website [22:04] sun's website is notorious for being written by the marketing folks, not the techs [22:04] Urchlay, you ever used ADTPro? Or heard of it at least? [22:04] nope [22:05] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [22:05] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [22:05] and doesn't slackware come with software to comnucate with the amac machines? [22:05] dammit, that bot's gettin' really annoying. Any ops want to wake up and give slackboy his marching orders? [22:05] wha? what's an amac machine? [22:05] a mac* [22:06] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [22:06] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [22:06] fine i'm going back to watching thundercats [22:06] later [22:06] Apple Disk Transfer ProDOS (ADTPro) transfers diskettes and logical disk images between Apple II-era computers and the modern world. <--- that? [22:06] apple II's are most emphatically not Macs [22:06] well meh i've never used old apple machines [22:06] Urchlay, yes, that's what I need to use. [22:07] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [22:07] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [22:07] toastytoast: they're what apple made before they invented the mac [22:07] i see [22:07] i asn't even born then [22:07] jescis: interesting... does the software do anything I can test without actually having a real apple II attached? [22:07] (I have a IIc, but it's in a storage bin 20+ miles from here) [22:08] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [22:08] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [22:08] well like i said above back to thundercats [22:08] you're old enough to remember thundercats, but not the apple II? [22:08] Alsdo they're better then Macs because steve (The Woz) Wozniak invented it. And along with steve Jobs created Apple Computers In c. [22:09] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [22:09] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [22:09] that is... imho [22:09] jescis : they're better than what? [22:09] I always was jealous of the IIe's built-in debugger/monitor [22:09] nothing like that existed on my Atari 800 [22:09] thundercats played all through the late 90s [22:09] Urchlay : but atari 800xl had atari basic :) [22:09] (think the monitor went away in later versions like the IIc) [22:10] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [22:10] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [22:10] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.7.145) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:10] apple II were in the late 70s and 80s right? [22:10] i wasn't born till 90 [22:10] toastytoast, yes [22:10] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleep" [22:10] ananke: yah, and it could do some neat things, but eventually you'd start to chafe against the limitations of BASIC and yearn for assembly... and you had to buy the assembler/editor cart for like $50, which was a lot in those days :( [22:11] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [22:11] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [22:11] Action: jescis was born April 22, 1977 ;o [22:11] damn, didn't the bouncer card toastytoast at the door? [22:11] atari turbo basic was actually quite decent, comparing to the default one [22:11] ananke: yeah, I spent a lot of time with turbo basic... someone in recent years has done a bankswitched cartridge of it, so you have the interpreter, compiler, and runtime all in one [22:12] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [22:12] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [22:12] (with no disk-loading time) [22:12] The Apple }{ was more "Hacker" friendly(also is still being used to make robots) ;) [22:12] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.20.255) joined ##slackware. [22:12] nice [22:13] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [22:13] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [22:13] by some weird reason the typing rate of my usb keyboard became very slow [22:13] Apple ][* [22:13] Simbioz (n=simbiozz@190.196.42.53) joined ##slackware. [22:14] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [22:14] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [22:14] that thing has happened to anyone before? [22:14] risperidon (n=risperid@189.115.215.65) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:15] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [22:15] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [22:15] Action: jescis doesn't use a usb keyboard with gnu/linux >.> [22:15] I'm so frustrated [22:15] I've had a PS/2 to USB keyboard adaptor freak out on me once or twice [22:15] jescis : of course. you use antiques [22:16] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [22:16] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [22:16] it happens both under virtual terminal and X11 [22:16] crap... [22:16] dissociative: anything in dmesg output when it happens? [22:16] ananke, better then anything new in a lot of instances ;) [22:17] my Atari 800 is almost 30 years old and will probably still work when it's 60 [22:17] I think that the only thing that I did was to enable the BIOS setup option called reset ESCD configuration data [22:17] doubt the same can be said of any consumer computer made in this century :( [22:17] hexoroid (n=box@unaffiliated/hexoroid) left irc: [22:17] Action: jescis likes the easier programmability of the Apple II [22:17] (heh, and don't ask me whether the floppy drives for the 800 still work...) [22:17] jescis : sure. if you want to repel an attack by rabid monkeys, you can use those junkers as ammo for catapults [22:18] Urchlay, hehehe :D I agree ;) [22:18] I suspect of this now in /proc/interrupts: 5: 34186 IO-APIC-fasteoi uhci_hcd:usb1, uhci_hcd:usb2, VIA8233A, bttv0, eth0 [22:18] Urchlay: speaking of Atari, ever get a chance to see the Portfolio model? [22:18] that would be the real problem I hope [22:18] MLanden: not in person. Seen a pic on a web site, but that's not really seeing... [22:19] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [22:19] Urchlay: same here [22:19] the usb keyboard is really slow no [22:19] now [22:19] ananke, At least the 6502 has easy to remember mnumonics ;o [22:21] jescis : sure. if i want to spend a few days programming new interface to my microwave :) [22:22] the Apple II has an ethernet card made by a guy selling them for like $60-80 called an Uther card :D [22:23] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:23] yeah, I wish someone would do an ethernet card for the Atari [22:23] jescis: What, for kontiki? [22:23] also they have the cffa ;) [22:24] MLanden, that's the OS that can use it [22:24] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:24] +m [22:24] br [22:24] contiki btw >.> [22:24] brb [22:24] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.20.255) left irc: "leaving" [22:24] jescis: OK [22:24] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:24] Nick change: pizdets -> pizzledizzle [22:26] eh, so I'm getting kinda worried about the-croupier, he just sorta vanished [22:26] MLanden, I don't need it now that I got the Super Serial Card(SSC) ;) [22:26] the last thing he did was download a salckbuild script I'm writing... don't see how the two can be related [22:26] Urchlay: check this out http://www.geocities.com/vlastaar/a8ether/ .. just had to google that out of curiosity [22:27] MLanden: yeah.. unfortunately last I checked, I can't buy a prebuilt one [22:27] jescis: cool to hear [22:28] and if I have to do my own PCB, it's probably quicker to just jump out of a tall building (similar results, only it'd be done faster) [22:29] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]" [22:29] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:29] MLanden, part of the reason I want to get ADT(Pro) running on the PCs side is to use my A2e as a "dumb" terminal ;) [22:29] Urchlay: hear ya [22:30] jescis: so what's your issue? not enough ram to run the jre? [22:30] Urchlay, yep [22:30] berke (n=will@nv-67-232-149-66.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [22:30] did you mess with any of the java command-line options that limit how much memory it tries to use? [22:30] davimint (n=david@c-76-123-131-156.hsd1.ms.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:31] Urchlay, no. what should I use? [22:31] I dunno, I just know there are some options that affect it... been a couple years since I had occasion to use them [22:31] clavius2 (i=James@115.sub-70-194-6.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [22:31] "man java" and search for -Xm within the man page [22:34] bijit (n=benji@190.241.15.48) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:35] also you might look at the program docs, see what's the minimum version of java required to run adtpro (older versions usually use less memory) [22:37] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.20.255) joined ##slackware. [22:37] another thought for ya: see if you can find the adtpro source, and compile them to a native binary with gcj (probably not trivial though) [22:38] anyone knows if the "Unknown Flash Type" message at the POST screen means something bad? [22:38] does the machine boot? [22:38] yes [22:39] I'm on it [22:39] it sounds bad... I would have guess bad enough the machine wouldn't boot though [22:40] nvision_ (n=nvision@g229121073.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [22:41] Urchlay, that didn't help. and what happens when I run adtpro.sh normally it says: Could not reserve enough space for object heap :\ [22:41] yuck [22:41] tomm101 (i=d01b4509@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3f0d8d78d014c72d) joined ##slackware. [22:43] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:43] you have 128M of RAM in that thing... I suppose you've already killed all unnecessary services, are not running KDE or Gnome, all the standard memory-saving stuff? [22:43] how can I see the progress of a disk copy on a remote computer? The remote and local are slackware 12.2 [22:43] clavius (i=James@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:44] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [22:44] maddslacker (n=corey@c-24-9-181-130.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:44] what kind of copy? scp, rsync, ftp, NFS, Samba, ...? [22:45] I will check if I can reserve an irq for the usb [22:45] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.20.255) left irc: "leaving" [22:45] i'm using dd and actually sometimes the remote is a bootable disk like a cd [22:45] bijit (n=benji@190.241.15.48) joined ##slackware. [22:46] so its not always slackware. but local is. [22:46] well, there's a signal you can send to dd to tell it to print its progress so far ("man dd") [22:46] on hardware with only 128m ram i would not even install X or any X apps & libs, and only run console based apps [22:46] that's what I was looking for. let me have a look. [22:46] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:47] Urchlay, when I tried it as "java -Xmx124M adtpro.sh" it gives me language errorsuthis computer is supposed to be a server >.> [22:47] mwi648 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: [22:47] NukeDukem: I think his chosen apps he's trying to run is a graphical java app, no choice but to use X [22:47] winp [22:47] wimp [22:47] what java app? [22:48] adtpro [22:48] (see adtpro.sourceforge.net if it's up...) [22:49] I ran lots of stuff on a 486 with 48 megs of ram and a 1MB video card.... KDE 1, with a second session of X under VNC playing jezzball [22:49] ooh, jezzball, good one [22:49] nowadays you kids think you have to have 2 gigs of RAM before you can do anything [22:49] Urchlay: very cool. I had not seen that before. but I wonder why dd does not just show its progress by default. it would make sence to have that part of the program. [22:49] ah, i get the picture, you are wanting to salvage some ancient software, good luck with that, youll need it [22:50] no, 1GB ram to do anything, 2gb to do it quickly [22:50] mmlj4: it's not his fault, he didn't choose to code the thing in Java, just wants to use it [22:50] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@plns-208-111-228-127-pppoe.dsl.plns.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [22:50] hashi (n=hashi@d122-104-82-12.meb8.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [22:50] java? good luck getting that to load under 5 minutes [22:50] tomm101: I dunno. You might try this instead: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/pipemeter/ [22:51] mmlj4: its the demand modern software puts on hardware, has nothing to do with individual courage and prowness [22:51] think of it as a cat and dd replacement with a built-in progress bar [22:51] NukeDukem, what are you trying to salvage from the old Apple II? [22:51] not me [22:51] hi I have two audio devices but the dj software "mixxx" can only see one of them I need both to mix properly one is seen /dev/dsp1 but it cant find /dev/dsp how do i fix this ? [22:52] Urchlay, when I tried it as "java -Xmx124M -jar lib/ADTPro-1.1.2.jar" it says "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: gnu/io/PortInUseException" [22:52] that sounds more like a classpath error than anything memory-related [22:53] hhmmm [22:53] that's interesting. I'd have to test it good. dd is pretty accepted for the work i do and changes to software are usually unwelcome. small minds. I'm reading about it now. [22:53] have a look at the adtpro.sh, set up the classpath in there [22:53] joe__ (n=joe@c-24-7-31-138.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:54] how do get slack to load two audio devices ? [22:54] nophis (i=1000@unaffiliated/nophis) left irc: "Leaving" [22:54] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:54] greetings and salutations [22:55] heya,andarius [22:55] salutations MLanden [22:55] greetings andarius, how are you? [22:55] salutations firebird619. I am well, you ? [22:55] doing excellent, thank you. [22:56] hashi (n=hashi@d122-104-82-12.meb8.vic.optusnet.com.au) left irc: "ircII EPIC4-2.8 -- Are we there yet?" [22:57] nvision (n=nvision@g229125130.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:57] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [22:59] omgomgomg kde 4.2.4 [23:00] pju617 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:00] Nick change: pju617 -> lbd519 [23:00] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.224) joined ##slackware. [23:00] Action: Urchlay politely waits until the KDE fans have finished getting the 4.2.4 stuff [23:01] I'm pulling @ ~550kbps right now [23:01] which mirror? [23:01] CrYpTo2 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:01] osuosl [23:01] is in the official repos? [23:01] when the next slack is released i will give kde4.x a spin, if i dont like it i will run removepkg on everthing kde & qt related [23:01] Urchlay: not a 4.x fan, I can tell you [23:01] ah, osuosl didn't have it when I looked an hour or so ago [23:02] note to self: running desktop-file-validate on a blah.SlackBuild not useful :) [23:02] I punted arch after a year of fighting KDE 4.x, went back to something with KDE 3.x on it [23:02] utah.edu doesn't have it yet either [23:03] and plan on switching to slack 12 for desktop work, and staying there until it's no longer supported [23:03] mmlj4: I don't use KDE, so it matters little to me (I do sometimes run KDE apps, but I try to avoid it due to slow startup time + lots of RAM used) [23:03] Action: maddslacker using kde4 and loving it [23:03] hi folks, do you have to use the slackware64 usbboot.img to install slackware64 or can you use the 12.2 usbboot.img [23:03] IMHO there's no better desktop than KDE 3.x [23:03] KDE 4 isn't noticeably better or worse than 3 was, for someone using Windowmaker as their "desktop" [23:03] Urchlay, heh [23:04] tomm101 (i=d01b4509@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3f0d8d78d014c72d) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [23:04] mmlj4, on this machine, kde 4 is a lot better on resources than 3 was [23:04] that's cool [23:04] yeah, it's really quite smooth [23:04] but I wasn't concerned about efficiency [23:05] this is an older machine (work laptop) so every little bit helps [23:05] the release just didn't work properly and I had to stop playing and get actual work done, so I punted [23:06] heh, yeah...I used to run ubuntu for that reason, but when it wouldn't boot on a thinkpad, I went back to slack, my old standby [23:07] joe__ (n=joe@c-24-7-31-138.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:07] vinegaro1n (n=sam@202-180-123-62.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:08] vinegaroon (n=sam@202.180.123.62) joined ##slackware. [23:08] I ran slack for 6 months on a laptop and loved it, until $wife complained and forced me to put WIn2k on it for her [23:08] I'm just recently back on slack, and only for servers so far [23:08] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:09] spent^Wwasted 3 years on debian [23:09] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [23:09] heh, I JUST upgraded the wife from vista tp Win 7 RC today [23:10] she'd gladly run linux, but she's a graphic designer and needs winders for Photoshop and a couple other apps [23:10] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] Has she tried to give GIMP a fair chance? [23:10] crossover doesn't run that yet? [23:10] maddslacker: good choice, she needs a real OS [23:10] MS Windows FTW! [23:11] mmlj4, not CS4, and even if it did performance would suffer [23:11] same reason vbox isn't really a solution [23:11] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:11] davimint (n=david@c-76-123-131-156.hsd1.ms.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:11] but Win7 is surprisingly good, for windows [23:12] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:12] whistler was also good, until they overloaded it with garbage and called it XP [23:13] heh [23:13] ... [23:13] "XP = Win2000 with the fisher price interface" [23:13] smooth, the podcast kids are going to interview me, turns out they're local [23:13] hackerpublicradio.org, see scroll above [23:14] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:14] wow, can you teach me to be leet like you? [23:14] heh [23:14] so I can get some podcast kidz interviews too [23:14] mmlj4: what for ? [23:14] you know [23:15] heh, none of the mirrors have the new updates populated yet [23:15] annoying [23:15] none??? [23:15] thrice`: the guy said he liked my company's tag line: "Integrating Linux into the Windows network" # http://kellynet.org/ [23:15] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-current/ the first one I clicked is updated [23:15] I would have done it regardless, but I was sure it was some out-of-state project [23:16] but hey.. free local advertizing :-0 [23:16] ah [23:16] lemme check that one, I was working my way up the list [23:16] this is the last one on the US list [23:16] fcaraballo (n=fcarabal@unaffiliated/fcaraballo) joined ##slackware. [23:17] I've been asked to speak about linux at least thrice for local groups [23:17] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [23:17] and once at a mensa convention [23:17] grr... I bet I didn't keep my badge from that con, pity [23:18] thrice`, doesnt seem to be in the slackp mirrors list. i'll add it I think [23:18] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-253.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [23:18] maddslacker: ah, ok; I was just on slackware.com/getslack :> [23:18] found it [23:18] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [23:18] 'oregonstate' [23:18] heh [23:18] of course, it doesn't hurt that I run the local LUG :-) [23:18] but, I'm off [23:18] sleep & [23:19] good, your ego was filing the room up [23:19] filling * [23:19] Seriously, I want some leet classes. Can you put them on? I'll even pay [23:21] briareus (n=briareus@ip68-98-236-127.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:21] thrice`, good call, upgrading now [23:22] I usually use university of utah, they're close to me and I get scary fast dl speeds there [23:29] Do I get rid of the /dev/mouse link to not have a mouse to be looked for? 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[23:51] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-253.isimples.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [23:54] clavius (i=James@115.sub-70-194-6.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:57] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [23:57] hello [23:57] hello [23:57] hey jeev [23:58] this is agent gorloje [23:58] jeev has been arrested [23:58] for being sexy in public [23:58] orly? [23:58] you've got the wrong man!! [23:58] yes, we caught him making every girl wet in the vicinity [23:58] lol tangibledaydream [23:58] asshole [23:58] :) [23:58] i mean, ha ha. this is fbi laughter [23:59] we at the FBI do not have a sense of humor that we are aware of [23:59] i just had dinner with my girlfriend then dropped her off, her school is almost done and graduamating.. then 4 more years lol [23:59] tangibledaydream, what's the fbi joke of today? [23:59] a black guy and a jewish guy walk into a bar [00:00] --- Sun Jun 7 2009