[00:00] well, folks...as much as i would love to shoot the shit about all things classic ( i could go on for hours, lol) i've got about 500 miles to drive tomorrow and i delivered 2 different shipments today [00:00] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:00] sweet...evil james [00:00] so i'm about done :-/ [00:00] Action: antler sticks a fork in jiffypop [00:00] Keep it cool,jiffypop [00:01] and you don't feel the steel til it's hangin out your back [00:01] demoncyber_ (n=demoncyb@201-24-71-225.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:01] you did get me in the back, right? [00:01] and you as well, MLanden [00:02] actually it was where the stuffing usually goes, but.... [00:02] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@a81-84-71-1.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [00:02] demoncyber__ (n=demoncyb@189.72.90.81) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:02] yeah, the back works :P [00:02] hahaha [00:02] k, cool [00:03] alright, man [00:04] Nick change: dhabyx_ -> dhabyx [00:04] later antler and everyone else [00:04] later man [00:04] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-51.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [00:05] jiffypop (n=ace@32.178.28.198) left irc: "con man on the street, lookin' for somethin' free" [00:08] snap! xfce6 final is out [00:09] i didn't notice [00:10] heh [00:10] i wonder if anyone fixed the issues with vertical panels [00:11] that are so annoying in 4 [00:12] 4.4* i mean. Has anyone noticed? It's only certain apps and i think it has to do with svg, but often the system tray will render icons as a single pixel or at double size, depending on the mood [00:13] hiptobecubic, no I've never seen that [00:15] neither have I [00:15] http://john.bitsurge.net/public//home/john/Pictures/Screenshots/Screenshot-15.png if you zoom in close, you'll see that the XChat icon is actually just one pixel [00:16] not found... [00:16] Wicd-client also suffers from this sometimes. It only ever happens when the panel is vertical. Further, switching it to horizontal and then vertical again will redraw it correctly. [00:17] oh oops. broken script... http://john.bitsurge.net/public/Screenshot-15.png [00:17] there [00:17] jiffypop: Jeez you must be old like me if you appreciate vintage AC/DC:) BIB was in the early 80s [00:17] I'm not so old and I have a deep appreciation for BIB :D [00:18] soldering_iron (n=soliron@S0106001e8cd0768a.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:18] soldering_iron (n=soliron@S0106001e8cd0768a.vs.shawcable.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [00:18] sucks when you get so old you start to say it has been 20 years since you have done some activity [00:20] Bon Scott, that was classic ac/dc [00:21] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [00:22] nille_ (n=nille@c-4b62e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [00:22] Bon "Scott" Jovi? [00:22] lol [00:23] does anyone know an good gui audio coder from wma to mp3? [00:23] why would you do that? [00:23] that would take a lossy audio file and make it worse [00:24] because not everything plays wma [00:25] because my mobilephone doesn't play wma [00:26] mannynix: Agreed. Bon Scott, rocked in Highway to Hell [00:27] Yeah, I was thinking of something like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-aQlhrE9Ks [00:29] tije (n=tije@201.127.237.81) left irc: "leaving" [00:29] hahaha that is sweet . never seen that... [00:30] awesome [00:30] really old :) [00:30] still good [00:31] yep [00:31] There was a time when people didn't depend on pro-tools or cakewalk [00:31] man hahaha same old angus [00:33] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [00:34] aye, headbanging all the time [00:34] jtanner1 (n=jtanner@6532142hfc81.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:35] if i type out groups, I don't see the admin group - but is it there? I did useradd -g admin ... and sudo appears to work. [00:35] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [00:36] admin group? [00:36] right, in /etc/password the gid is like 501 or something [00:36] grep admin /etc/group [00:37] there is not stock 'admin' group [00:37] yea are you running 8.10 ? [00:37] 8.10 wtf [00:37] lol [00:37] where the hell am i? [00:37] ubuntu [00:37] it's there, thanks.. just groups dont list it [00:37] #ubuntu [00:38] nullboy uses ubuntu 8,19 [00:38] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:38] nullboy uses slackware [00:38] 10* [00:38] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]" [00:38] so ubuntu people come here for support? [00:38] when i get my system in a few days, put it together and prays that it works, slackage 32bit is going on it [00:38] heh [00:38] nullboy uses slackware virtually from ubuntu [00:38] OS on the MLC SSD and data/the rest on a 1Tb harddrive [00:39] wtf is alckage? [00:39] who me?? [00:39] slackage* [00:39] demoncyber_ (n=demoncyb@201-24-71-225.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:39] my question was on centOS, so sue me.. [00:39] Action: superGear sues jtanner1 [00:39] it's all linux, but i'll be here soon =) [00:39] uSlacker (n=gmartin@pool-71-185-211-243.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:39] yayy superGear, you get my old power supply and ps2 keyboards laying around [00:40] not the same since your original question makes no sense on a stock slackware install [00:40] true [00:40] you make us guess at your situation [00:40] demoncyber_ (n=demoncyb@189.31.114.238) joined ##slackware. [00:40] ask centos questions in #centos or smthin [00:41] could be worse tho [00:41] he could be asking windows question [00:41] holy .. didnt think there was a channel for that, sorry [00:41] maybe he saw this on distrowatch "If you want to know how Linux works, ask a Slackware user." [00:41] jtanner1: what distro are you running? [00:42] personally? ubuntu 64bit latest [00:42] Action: superGear gasps [00:42] Action: superGear screams in horror [00:42] but i plan to install slackware in a few days and change the runlevel [00:42] heh my wife uses linux mint x86_64 :P [00:43] Action: MLanden covers his ears for the screams about to be uttered in the room [00:43] jtanner1 do you like ubuntu? is it good? [00:43] it suits my porpoise [00:43] my wife was running debian, but, I put Slackware on her unit. All is well [00:43] hopefully slackware will scream on the ssd [00:44] hitest: i tried slamd64, but couldn't get x going w/o vesa [00:44] gave up. linux mint. [00:44] 23:42 < hitest> I put Slackware on her unit. [00:44] does slacky use yum for package mgt? [00:44] :-) [00:44] no [00:44] jkwood: hahah [00:44] rpm + dep hell? [00:44] slackware uses pkgtools [00:45] slackware doesn't use rpms [00:45] good [00:45] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [00:45] there is no dep checking [00:45] antler: Interesting. Did you try copying over a known good xorg.conf? [00:45] you're the dep checker [00:46] nice.. 10 thousand 3rd party apps later.. [00:46] moha_ (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-48-193.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [00:46] antler: Yep. I understand, I also use what will work. [00:47] jkwood: i don't think the xorg.conf was the problem. from what i could tell the problem was with the package xf86-video-i810, which doesn't work on the integrated mobile 4. i tried switching to slamd64's current xf86-video-intel, which didn't work either. on mint, however, upgrading the latter did the trick. [00:47] jtanner1, what do you mean? [00:48] Hmm... If the Slack version worked, the Slamd64 version should have worked. [00:48] but Holy Shister slamd64 was blazing fast. jkwood : no slackware didn't work [00:48] That woudl do it. [00:49] would, even. [00:49] jkwood: i tried slamd64 first, then slack, then slamd. trust me, i'd rather have either of those than anything else (mainly because i'm somewhat familiar with it already) [00:51] hear ya,antler [00:51] Okay. I just hate to see a problem go unsolved, ya know? [00:52] jkwood: it's unsolved. the objective: get slamd64 on my wife's lappy. problem: i dunno how to do it. x works if i use vesa, but the lappy is capable of 1400x900. [00:52] tank-man - so i go to compile the latest game someone is working on, oops i need sdl. And then I need ncurses.. go to their website and install it hoping I'm not missing something then. [00:54] night all [00:54] anybody know offhand what the vlc volume keybindings are? [00:54] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:54] Night,hitest [00:54] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-68-92.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:55] jtanner1: http://slackbuilds.org [00:55] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-12-114.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:56] jtanner1, slackware comes with ncurses [00:56] and sdl [00:56] That also. [00:56] and tools to compile code [00:57] fadein (n=fadein@c-98-202-166-220.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:58] zro193 (n=Internet@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: [01:00] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@dqq234.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [01:00] Night,folks [01:00] it's going to be my gaming machine, i'll be installing x-plane, savage 2, et qw, maybe some wine stuff, on a nvidia 8800GTS [01:00] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-23.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [01:01] is there any recommended gui for slack, the usual gnome/kde/xfce/etc ? [01:01] lol [01:02] uSlacker (n=gmartin@pool-71-185-211-243.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:02] static_oxy (n=stastic_@41.234.252.21) left irc: "Leaving" [01:02] jtanner1: http://slackbasics.org/ [01:02] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:02] nullboy: Many thanks. You just saved me a bunch of typing. [01:03] wow nice book [01:03] ewl (n=ewl@pool-141-157-166-31.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [01:03] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-1-57.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:06] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:08] ppl: gm, why arp don't associate a IP to a MAC using wireless.. what tool should do the same in wireless connection? [01:12] umm [01:12] it does [01:12] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [01:13] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [01:16] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.52.211.250) left irc: "good night all" [01:16] lol [01:16] l2networking [01:20] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [01:36] firebird619 (i=jeremy@173-18-59-23.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [01:37] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [01:38] cpunches (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:38] grumble. [01:39] i am using wifi for internet access on my slack box....is there a way i can make a wired nic on this box plug into my mac and provide internet for my mac through this wifi? someone told me rc.firewall can do this but im not sure what to even look for or the best way to do this... [01:40] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [01:41] cpunches, yes [01:42] edman007: what is your suggestion? [01:43] I mean am I building a switch or a router? [01:43] easiest way is something like this, (if its wlan0 and eth0), ifconfig wlan0 0.0.0.0 promisc up; ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 promisc up; sh /etc/rc.d/rc.ip_forward start; brctl addbr br0; brctl addif br0 eth0; brctl br0 wlan0; ifconfig br0 up; dhcpcd br0; [01:44] thats the easiest way, and i do that sometimes, it makes your computer just act as a switch and send everything between the two interfaces [01:44] if you want to do NAT you have to do it with iptables [01:45] plus you'll prob end up with double NAT which is ugly [01:45] ohhh...so on the newly connected machine how am I setting up its network? [01:45] just as if it were another on the network? [01:45] cpunches, just copy/paste what i have, assuming you have wlan0 up and you want to make eth0 work, copy paste that, hit enter, and it will work [01:46] god i really need to take a networking class this is embarrassing [01:46] it will act as if you were then wired to the wifi router [01:47] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:49] cpunches: I somehow don't think that a networking class will keep you from embarassing yourself. [01:49] I'm in one, and I embarass myself all the time. [01:49] lol [01:49] heh [01:50] i find a lot of those computer classes don't do a damn thing [01:50] Action: frullet prefers to buy the book and do it in his own time [01:51] they tell you how stuff should be, in abstract terms, nobody in the classes can understand abstract and map it to real world, and the few who can understand that its wrong, the real world does not work the way it should according to school [01:51] IMHO just setting up a few NATs and random networks gives you way more knowledge [01:52] demoncyber_ (n=demoncyb@189.31.114.238) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:52] i don't think i could tell you the difference between a class A/B/C network, but i can read the ip/netmask and tell you everything they ask about the different network classes [01:55] and of course i got a friend that has his CCNA and can't figure out how to configure the NIC in windows, and he has actually asked me and another friend of mine for help, both of us have only had real world experience with networks and have not taken any real classes on that stuff [01:55] jtanner1 (n=jtanner@6532142hfc81.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving." [01:55] those certs and stupid... [01:55] gah, 2am already [01:55] Action: edman007 cries [01:55] the euro people are going to start flooding soon... [01:57] edman007: http://pastebin.com/d366406ca [01:57] Action: edman007 notes that pastebin is sleeping [01:57] ? [01:58] it works on my end [01:58] cpunches, the iwconfig commands should run on wlan0 [01:59] iwlist as well? [01:59] yea [01:59] bridges map NICs, you can have 3 wifi NICs on one bridge and use it to bridge the three channels [02:00] depending on your kernel, there are a few modules that you may need, i don't know if you want to probe for em though, hugesmp should have all compiled in [02:01] and be careful, i found some wifi drivers bring the nic down and stuff, so you may need to verify that its up after some commands...depends on the drivers [02:02] i have run into issues in the past where bringing up eth0 will kill my wifi connection [02:02] yea...depends on the driver [02:03] ndiswrapper [02:03] brb [02:03] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:03] but a lot of driver like to make dissasociated => nic down [02:03] ohhh [02:03] it is also a tunable 'feature' for some drivers [02:04] so if it fails to get an AP or something (or you didn't configure it all in one command), it brings it down, and then it fails to associate because its down [02:04] stupid drivers...i hate that stuff [02:04] abnorma| (n=abnorma_@77.46.215.230) joined ##slackware. [02:04] so my wifi scripts have extra `ifconfig wlan0 up` scattered all over the place [02:05] taquito (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "User disconnected" [02:07] abnorma| (n=abnorma_@77.46.215.230) left irc: Client Quit [02:08] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "Leaving" [02:15] i just went to the cedega website to see if they have better support for teamfortress 2 than wine, to get any information regarding a game's compatibility or incompatibility you need to sign up first (and its not free) [02:16] demoncyber_ (n=demoncyb@189-31-97-101.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:17] abnorma| (n=abnorma_@77.46.215.230) joined ##slackware. [02:23] cpunches (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [02:23] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-98-207-187-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:26] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. 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[02:43] cpunches, you can try running it on wlan0 with it connected to the br0...i think it does work if the IP is on wlan0 [02:43] What's br0. [02:43] impomatic (n=John@nat66.mia.three.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:44] impomatic (n=John@nat66.mia.three.co.uk) left ##slackware. [02:44] edman007: will try; ccfreak2k its a bridge between my eth0 and my wlan0 [02:45] Oh right, bridge interface. [02:47] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:48] ok edman007 what i did was made sure wlan0 was connected before i added it to the bridge, and then as soon as i add it the connectivity dies [02:48] i pull it back off, it goes back up [02:48] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [02:50] cpunches: what card is it? [02:50] chipset [02:50] wg311v3 [02:50] oh [02:50] uhm [02:50] atheros [02:50] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Connection reset by peer [02:51] you're trying to bridge hard line to wifi right? [02:51] yes [02:51] are you using encryption on the wireless? [02:51] i want to be able to just plug another box into this one to milk off the wifi [02:51] no [02:53] this is debian centered but from the command set you can get an idea of the order of operations to try http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-wap.html [02:53] btw nullboy i did say atheros chipset but that was stupid its a marvell chipset [02:53] ahh [02:53] it should work fine with atheros [02:53] cpunches, what driver are you using? [02:53] have you confirmed that marvell support bridging like this? [02:54] madwifi may work a bit better [02:54] edman007: im using the XP driver and ndiswrapper [02:54] cpunches, don't... [02:54] madwifi doesn't support mine afaik [02:54] what?!?! [02:54] good god and you're wondering why? [02:54] edman007: madwfi....atheros.... [02:54] lspci output please [02:54] marvell is not atheros [02:55] Action: edman007 sees a lot of atheros in that backscroll [02:55] cpunches: so what is it then? [02:55] don't use ndiswrapper though... [02:55] that is just asking for trouble [02:55] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060015e964b923.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [02:56] pilipo (n=pilipo@124.217.35.11) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:56] bottom line here is that this type of setup is known to work with some chipset/driver combos and known to not work with others [02:56] lspci output: http://pastebin.com/d49f69534 [02:56] its marvell chipset [02:56] Libertas [02:58] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-71-204-116-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:59] vdsy ! [02:59] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/libertas [02:59] cpunches, [02:59] good luck with that chipset [02:59] lol [02:59] nullboy, its what the OLPC uses [03:00] i think that means they may have gotten a bit more than usual.. [03:00] that's fine and i'm sure it works great as a normal client in client mode [03:00] nullboy, well a bridge keeps it in client mode [03:00] but that doesn't mean it will play well with bridging [03:00] i know this [03:00] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [03:01] antler, how's it going man, long time no hear, what's up [03:01] this type of thing has always been one of the issues with openwrt and certain drivers and chipsets. bridging is sometimes a problem [03:02] abnorma| (n=abnorma_@77.46.215.230) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:02] vdsy: back in calgary. hating the cold. how've you been? [03:02] i -would- get a problematic combo [03:02] RaNdY (n=x@unaffiliated/randy) joined ##slackware. [03:02] i haven't caught a break yet with that stuff lol [03:02] antler, back? what happened to hanoi? well, it's going to be spring in a few weeks.. [03:03] cpunches: you can always do this via routing instead [03:03] you don't have to bridge [03:03] antler, not too bad, feeling the economy.. [03:03] nullboy: huh? [03:03] route instead of bridge [03:03] im not seeing what youre painting [03:04] wifi connects to AP on 192.168.1.0/24, ethernet is on 10.0.0.0/24. route between the interfaces instead [03:04] vdsy: hanoi? i left shortly after the semester was over. oh jesus tell me about it. the economy is bhaaaahaaad. did you get another place? last i heard the landlord was going psycho and kicked you out :P [03:04] morning [03:05] cpunches: what you are trying to do is called "client bridge mode" in the wifi realm. what i described is called "routed client mode" [03:05] antler, they went through 3 landlord changes, this one's pretty nice, she's hot too, always running around with a tiny tight tanktop...so hanoi is done? [03:05] how do you know this? [03:05] lol [03:05] i work with wifi a lot [03:05] oh [03:05] slackytude, hey, how things in germany [03:05] greetings vdsy [03:06] not too bad [03:06] could be better but so far the world still turns [03:06] what is this a song? [03:06] hehe [03:06] not that Im aware ^-^ [03:06] Action: edman007 sings [03:07] la la laaa [03:07] put the lime in the coconut [03:07] vdsy: hanoi is done. turned down a job in japan to come back to this rat hole place. :P did you ask the landlord to come mess around with your plumbing? [03:07] and something something up [03:07] cpunches: it's just like any other router [03:08] antler, always looking for someone to mess around with your plumbing huh? [03:08] vdsy, how about your part of the globe? all fine? [03:08] antler, whhhhhhyyyyyy??? oh mannn, japan would be awesome...she's a quiet one though, she lives on her own too it seems...and i do have to ask for her number, in case i lose my keys [03:09] slackytude, cold...damn -20 celsius crap [03:09] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-71-204-116-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:09] vdsy, ahh, nice! [03:09] O_o [03:09] vdsy: the quiet ones are usually the ones that pull the nasty shit. how old? milf material or like a young hottie? [03:09] vdsy, too cold for me. but its supposed to snow again here too [03:10] edman007: aren't you in the market to have your pipes messed with? your knob polished? :P [03:10] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-12-114.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:10] antler, ...so? [03:10] edman007, milf material....id say mid-30's, my age anyway [03:10] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:10] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-12-114.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:11] i still dont even know her name, and she's got helpers who are pretty hot too [03:11] vdsy: what? and no man. she's fucked. stay away. caution. danger. danger. [03:11] http://blogs.gnome.org/diegoe/2008/12/12/gtk-from-checkout-not-building-in-ubuntu/ <- lol ubuntu :p [03:11] loud cleaners at 10 AM, not fun, but when i opened the door, she was hot, went back to my room, i coulndt complain [03:12] antler, hahahaah, i was thinking that actually...how could a hot milf as herself not have one... [03:12] she doesnt have that post belly shape either [03:13] ill shower with the door open one day, when i hear that vaccum roraring on my floor [03:13] jesus. she must be psychotic. so unless you're ready for an emotional roller coaster ride...... [03:13] hahah [03:13] antler, slowly work into it...i may be able to live here for free ahahha [03:13] sex for apartment [03:14] i can be her bitch [03:14] grrr [03:14] yeah and a naked girl just fell out of the sky and landed on my penis 30 seconds ago [03:14] apartment for mental breakdown. difficult decision. [03:14] ok i am out of cigarettes [03:14] nullboy: That happened to you too? [03:14] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [03:14] lol [03:14] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [03:14] nullboy, must be nice to have girls fall out of the sky like that huh [03:14] Action: jkwood goes to bed [03:15] first i was like O_O then i was like *_* [03:15] and then you was like ahhhhhhhhh [03:15] antler: shut up dude thats sick. [03:15] ...lol [03:16] anyway man, he [03:16] cpunches: ejaculating due to extreme sexual pleasure is sick? hmmmmmm. ok. :P [03:16] antler heading off [03:16] ill see u around man [03:16] later man. take care [03:16] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060015e964b923.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:16] damn i gotta get my mac online [03:17] i mean...my bsd. totally meant bsd. [03:17] abnorma| (n=abnorma_@77.46.215.230) joined ##slackware. [03:17] Action: cpunches whistles [03:17] macs are shiny looking.... [03:17] "get my mac online" sounds like you want to cyber [03:18] yeah mine is an AMD :D [03:18] running leopard 10.5ish with no outside case [03:18] Urchlay__ (n=dammit@c-71-204-116-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:19] oh you put osx on non mac hardware.... [03:19] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-71-204-116-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:20] lol im really happy about it too [03:20] cpunches: i did that a while ago, but there was no driver i could use at the time for my radeon x1600 [03:20] like three years ago... [03:21] oh that sucks [03:21] for what it's worth it doesn't support my wifi card either [03:21] oh that's what you're doing now :P [03:21] yeah im really pissed off about it [03:22] cpunches: if you want to play with wifi you should stick to atheros chipsets [03:22] at least if you want master/client modes [03:22] nullboy, how about "get my mac on, online"? [03:22] nullboy: my budget is about 20 dollars per year for computer hardware. [03:22] you still can't go wrong with atheros but i have had good success with rtl8187 usb adatpers too, client mode only [03:23] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [03:23] injection pretty much works with anything that supports mac80211 now so that isn't a big deal anymore but master mode is still sketchy for some chipsets [03:24] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:25] greetings... [03:25] greetings, spartan [03:25] how are the 9 servers called something dns something... :( that were said to keep the internet together [03:25] ? [03:26] root servers [03:26] greeting courageous antler [03:26] thanks nullboy [03:26] bono (i=bono@118-168-238-33.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [03:27] bono: have you found what you're looking for? 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[03:42] bono (i=bono@118-168-238-33.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:42] antler, only on OpenVMS [03:42] byteframe: ok. i'll check what taht is now [03:43] ah it's an os [03:45] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:45] Nick change: Urchlay__ -> Urchlay [03:45] BOFH__ (n=berserk@host26-81-dynamic.42-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:46] Cinnamon! [03:47] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:48] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:50] duryodhan (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-bff8472ab2e0d0d5) joined ##slackware. [03:50] how can I setup so that files in a particular folder created by me are always group writeable ? 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[04:16] :( [04:17] like punched in the right number into the right formula, and got the wrong answer :( [04:17] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [04:18] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [04:18] but i did pretty good on the probibility test today...i think i got like an 80, with a crazy prof (says nobody got a 100 on any of his tests, ever, and As are rare at best) [04:18] how do i do this: cat /var/log/packages/* |grep libxcb-xlib.so but make it tell me what file it finds those instances in ? [04:18] abnorma| (n=abnorma_@77.46.215.230) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:19] guess your proff misjudged the probability of that happening :) [04:19] i think the probability at people anyone gets and A in a probability course is probably probable [04:20] wish i could google better at console ... [04:20] Soul_keeper, man grep [04:20] geez i don't think i have enough typos [04:20] Soul_keeper, .so files are often symlinks, makepkg puts symlinks in shell scripts not in the package, so don't search for it quite like that [04:20] slackytude i got a man for you [04:20] and don't use cat to pipe to grep, your not going to get anything useful [04:20] Soul_keeper, keep it [04:20] a mangina? [04:21] so... grep -r libxcb /var/log/packages/* [04:21] slackytude next time you need help i'll remember that [04:21] err... s/-r/-i/ [04:21] Soul_keeper, do you have a women for me? [04:22] i wish [04:22] :( [04:23] i need one too [04:23] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [04:26] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [04:26] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:27] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:28] right now i just need libxcb-xlib.so [04:30] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@dhcp-195-226.nomad.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. [04:32] its in libxcb-1.1-i486-1.tgz [04:32] "grep libxcb /var/log/packages/*" says so [04:34] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-98-207-187-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "GONE!" [04:39] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [04:42] apparently i am missing a dependency for libxcb called "dot" [04:43] that's a hard one to find on freshmeat ... [04:44] any idea what "dot" is ? [04:46] dot - filter for drawing directed graphs [04:46] thanks [04:46] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-194278.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:47] part of graphviz on my system [04:49] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:50] hmm CPL license ... [04:50] why must people pick such stupid names for things [04:50] unique is good, its easy to find! [04:50] dot is not [04:51] this don't make sense, why would xcb be saying it needs CPL licenses software [04:51] licensed* [04:52] * Remove libxcb-xlib and xcbxlib.h. those files were removed in recent xcb [04:53] pixman still looks for them tho [04:55] Soul_keeper, a lot of those libs do that, but its optional, they do it because lots of people want some lib in there thats not GPL [04:55] usually optional though [04:56] even PHP has compile time options for a few completely closed source libs [05:08] libxcb-1.1.90.1 seems to be the last version that'll work with xorg 1.5 i'll know for sure when this compile finishes [05:08] Action: edman007 -> bed [05:08] libxcb-1.1.91 does not work [05:08] bye guys [05:08] late [05:09] Fri Mar 6 05:07:49 EST 2009 [05:09] Nick change: moha_ -> mohaa [05:14] sounds like coffee time :) [05:15] duryodhan (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-bff8472ab2e0d0d5) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009012111]" [05:15] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:15] coffee time! 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[06:59] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434144.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:02] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-2b6cde79a89b6edf) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:02] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-c6426dba004df32d) joined ##slackware. [07:03] any openvpn user here? [07:03] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@dhcp-196-42.nomad.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. [07:04] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:06] yeah? [07:06] its a routing problem [07:08] no, dns [07:08] I just read in google that I need to provide scripts for it to update my resolv.conf file [07:08] Trying to find those scripts [07:08] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:11] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:12] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. 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[07:31] yes [07:31] I alredy built a script [07:31] it's working now [07:31] heh [07:31] i do that with my vpn [07:31] i just connect via ip [07:31] well, glad I could help :P [07:32] it's strange that it doesn't supply an option for that [07:32] what doesnt? [07:32] lucvdv (n=luc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: "leaving" [07:34] openvpn [07:34] seems such a trivial requirement [07:34] I have a foobar vpn server/client that does everything and more... and I need to hack resolv.conf !? [07:36] openvpn allows you to use ip [07:36] just specify ip instead of hostna.e [07:36] hostname* [07:37] hum?! [07:37] No, I'm talking about *after* the connection is done [07:37] ? [07:37] what about it? [07:37] when you push dns settings? [07:38] I need a new resolv.conf. 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[08:54] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423512.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:55] greetings from Northern Canada......eh:) [08:56] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423512.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:56] dim_m (n=dim_m@ALille-258-1-91-18.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:57] twager_ (n=twager@trufflesdad.plus.com) joined ##slackware. [08:58] Action: chopp returns the greeting from Edmonton....eh:) [08:58] hitest: hi, a warm chanook wind warming you up yet? [08:58] Anyone tell me how to burn .wav files to a cd so as to show track names instead of track1 track 2 etc ? [08:59] hersonls (n=hersonls@189.81.24.141) joined ##slackware. [08:59] gnubien: it is pretty decent up here, not too cold at all, above freezing:) [09:00] hitest: tee-shirt weather! :) [09:00] dim_m (n=dim_m@ALille-258-1-91-18.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "leaving" [09:00] hitest: which province and city do you live in? [09:00] two days ago here it was +10C, now back to -24C :( [09:01] lovely ;) [09:03] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:03] gnubien: yep, warm indeed:) I live in Prince Rupert, BC which is quite close to Alaska [09:05] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [09:05] spaceninja (n=akin@c83-255-160-161.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [09:06] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423512.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:06] hitest: beautiful country there; is prince rupert close to the coast? [09:06] I got a 3.0 slackware installation cd, what should I do with it? [09:06] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423512.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:06] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423512.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:06] yes, on the coast:) [09:06] twager_ (n=twager@trufflesdad.plus.com) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [09:07] spaceninja (n=akin@c83-255-160-161.bredband.comhem.se) left ##slackware. [09:07] spaceninja: unless you have ancient hardware I'd go for 12.2. [09:08] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423512.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:08] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423512.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:08] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn254.91-127-2.t-com.sk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:08] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:08] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:09] hitest: economy of local area mostly logging or fishing? [09:09] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423512.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:10] our economy is in shambles. It was based on a pulp mill and fishing. We now have a new container port which is helping to liven things up a bit. [09:11] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423512.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:15] hitest: containers were for import or export? [09:16] mostly importing from Asia down to the states. I think we also have containers going out as well [09:16] hitest: prince rupert has a major road connection or is it land locked? [09:19] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423512.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:19] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:21] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:21] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.111) joined ##slackware. [09:22] it has a highway, we areabout 90 miles away from the nearest town [09:22] are about [09:23] hitest: nice, prince rupert usually snow free do to its proximity to the pacific ocean? [09:24] we have some snow, but, yeah our weather usually is quite mild due to the Pacific:) Lots of rain here [09:27] hehe.. [09:27] installing VMware ESXi on a Googlemini :D [09:27] hitest: nice [09:27] ty:) [09:28] agiofws_ (n=agiofws@athedsl-423512.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:28] hey, it's a PE 2950 with 16GB RAM, 2x 2.33GHz dualcore cpu and 6x 250GB SATA disks on a PERC 5/i [09:28] good enough ;) [09:28] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) joined ##slackware. [09:29] A "Googlemini"? [09:31] eerh, its a Google Search Appliance [09:31] my misstake [09:31] http://www.google.co.uk/enterprise/gsa/index.html' [09:31] http://www.google.co.uk/enterprise/gsa/index.html [09:32] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423512.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:33] agiofws_ (n=agiofws@athedsl-423512.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:33] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423512.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[09:53] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:54] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423512.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:55] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423512.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:55] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423512.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:55] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423512.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:59] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:00] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.90.90.50) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:00] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.90.90.50) joined ##slackware. [10:06] hi everybody [10:06] is it possible to build the kernel for slackware in order it support 64bits feature ? [10:06] Yes..but..you'll need a crosscompiler..and a new toolchain [10:06] Just run slamd64 [10:07] i just want to stay on slack [10:07] no slamd64 if possible [10:07] crooscompiler , toolchain ? [10:08] Pants. You'll need new pants. [10:09] sorry, i don't speak english very well, ..hum, i need new compilators you mean ? (new libgc and make ) ?? [10:10] A new toolchain.. [10:10] does someone of you already try to move to 64bits and remaining on slackware ? [10:10] You won't be able to do it easily at all [10:10] Slamd64 is pretty much the port of Slackware to 64-bit [10:10] Save yourself some time and hassle and just use it [10:10] _stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:10] _stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [10:11] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [10:11] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:11] dimmerbold (i=dimbold@port.23.telnetd.org) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:12] straterra, is it possible to move from slack to slamd64 with and upgrade without losing previous softwares installations for example ? [10:12] You can run your 32-bit software in Slamd64 [10:12] though..most of your 32-bit software can most likely be compiled for 64-bit [10:12] renew (n=renew@adsl-67-127-55-226.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [10:13] ok , i see ... but is it possible to upgrade to Slamd64 just like we do from 12.1 tà 12.2 of slack i meant [10:13] dusty__ (n=MrDusty@88-105-91-48.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [10:14] No..but if you still have your 32-bit packages, you could backup /home, do a fresh install, reconfigure and then reinstall your packages [10:14] paissad: yes. though you may hit a few gotchas. i went from slackware 32 bit to bluewhite64 without losing much if any software [10:14] bw64 FAIL [10:15] i 'am confused now :-) [10:15] straterra: ? [10:15] bluewhite64 == fail [10:15] lol [10:15] explain [10:15] tntslack (n=will@adsl33-25.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:15] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:15] heh [10:15] It's developer makes stupid claims like 32-bit compatibility is a security risk. [10:16] then why does he provide x86 compat libs? [10:17] Because arny doesn't know what he's talking about. [10:17] paissad: you /can/ just install a 64-bit kernel (from slamd64, or anywhere else), without much trouble, as long as you don't want to build it yourself [10:17] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@dqq234.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:18] hwoever, you'll have issues if you want to use the proprietary nvidia drivers, and a general performance hit over a 32-bit kernel. [10:18] the only thing it changes for good is the system-wide memory limit; but not the per-process limit [10:18] straterra: that may be so but I still dont get your fail remark [10:19] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: "http://www.1st-vets.com" [10:19] fred, you mean that the real valuable change is about the memory limit of 3go ? [10:19] otherwise, there's not so much difference with 32bits ? [10:19] paissad: there's several valuable changes, but they almost all require a 64-bit userspace. [10:19] the only exception is the system memory limit iirc [10:20] examples of ones which you get with userspace: higher per-process limit, more registers, greatly improved hardware support for indirect addressing [10:20] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [10:21] ok [10:21] the latter baically meaning if you have an array of pointers, accessing the items they're pointing to is much faster [10:21] (eg *a[b] = c) [10:21] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:22] also speeds up vtable looksup [10:22] *lookups [10:22] fred: how much memory does your Vista x64 machine have? [10:23] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.90.90.50) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:24] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.90.90.50) joined ##slackware. [10:25] straterra: it's dual boot, not just vista, and 8gb [10:25] MrDusty (n=MrDusty@88-105-91-48.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:28] Didnt the memory die? [10:29] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [10:29] it got replaced :p [10:29] bah [10:30] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.90.90.50) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:30] I wish I had more than 2 gigs :/ [10:30] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.90.90.50) joined ##slackware. [10:31] renew (n=renew@adsl-67-127-55-226.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:31] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [10:32] nick4 (n=fffeop@188.4.4.54) joined ##slackware. [10:45] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[11:20] does screen support mouse events, such as using midnight commander with a mouse? if so how I can't find anything here with Mother Google. [11:20] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:20] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:20] I use mouse with screen..so I assume so [11:22] straterra, I can get copy/paste, but clicking on a directory in midnight commander, or the scroll wheel doesn't scroll a dir in mc at all. maybe it's just mc? dunno. [11:22] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [11:22] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:22] Ether_Man_ (i=Ether_Ma@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [11:22] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.90.90.50) joined ##slackware. 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[11:45] cinerella [11:45] cinelerra? something like that [11:45] how is that? [11:45] Ether_Man_ (i=Ether_Ma@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Success [11:46] Works decent..but..works better with 64-bit than 32-bit [11:46] 32-bit crashes o.O [11:46] :( [11:46] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) returned to ##slackware. [11:46] Prefe (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) returned to ##slackware. [11:46] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) returned to ##slackware. [11:46] jholt_ (n=jholt@72.240.46.138) returned to ##slackware. [11:46] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) returned to ##slackware. [11:46] UdontKnow (i=evaldo@freenode/staff/udontknow) returned to ##slackware. [11:46] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) returned to ##slackware. [11:46] zErOaCid (i=slacker@unaffiliated/zErOaCid) joined ##slackware. [11:46] maxote (n=el_ermit@84.79.67.254) returned to ##slackware. 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[12:11] iknowrite:| [12:12] no kid for me yet [12:12] :) [12:12] every period is a gift from god for my sanity [12:12] i thought she was knocked up [12:12] man am i confused [12:12] lol [12:12] i love this program for windows which monitors changes to boot up programs [12:12] kresho (n=kresho@unaffiliated/kresho) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:13] kresho (n=kresho@unaffiliated/kresho) joined ##slackware. [12:13] its like, blah blah adobe update wants to run at startup, HELL NO FUCK THAT SHIT OFF [12:13] no..not knocked up [12:13] afaik [12:13] MrDusty (n=MrDusty@88-105-91-48.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:14] MrDusty (n=MrDusty@88-105-91-48.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [12:14] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:14] the baby has scrambledz yer brains :) [12:16] aperturefever` (n=abell@athedsl-204349.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[13:39] love mine [13:39] I love mine^ [13:39] the actual price is affordable, but if something breaks.... [13:40] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [13:40] It has a warranty [13:40] I wanted an iPod Touch but I got given a Nokia N810 instead. It's a much better all round device, granted, the operating system just sucks balls [13:41] I do a lot on my iPod touch..I IRC on it o.O [13:41] and the drinking games app is just plain fun [13:41] straterra: of course ... but only 12 month iirc [13:41] i got cheap one for my gf [13:41] I've never owned an iPod before..my MP3 player before that was the Creative Nomad Zen Xtra [13:42] shes paying but i scoped out the like 30% cheaper deal [13:42] It came out when the iPod's first came out..it was half the price for double the storage..it still works and lives. [13:42] nevermind, i would buy one if i had the money :D [13:42] I recently replaced the hard drive in it [13:42] straterra: how the freaking hell do i change what cities the weather app has? [13:42] spook_: there should be an "i" somewhere [13:42] aja [13:42] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [13:43] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:43] thanks [13:43] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [13:43] The-spiki (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) joined ##slackware. [13:43] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [13:45] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:46] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:46] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[13:53] bob_slacker, sounds like a hardware issue [13:53] jjholt (n=jjholt@68.75.110.78) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:53] edman007, no, it isnt [13:53] edman007, it just reboot when i connect to apache [13:53] And..how do you know its not hardware? [13:53] bob_slacker: check the relevant error logs. [13:54] thumbs, @ error_log it leaves NOTHING! [13:55] straterra: on ipod now [13:55] bob_slacker, well the user apache runs as should not have the permissions to make it reboot, so either its a hardware issue or its something along the lines of a kernel panic (assuming you didn't do anything silly with your apache setup) [13:55] bob_slacker: not even the restart messages? [13:56] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [13:57] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@89.181.108.138) joined ##slackware. [13:57] thumbs, not even the restart messages! it just restart! [13:58] bob_slacker: does the error log indicates that the httpd deamon started? [13:58] bob_slacker: if it doesn't, you have severe issues. [13:58] bob_slacker, actually sounds like your CPU overheated... [13:58] run memtest on that computer [13:59] thumbs, hope i have severe issue. [13:59] edman007, no, my cpu is ok! [14:00] bob_slacker, i hope it's the software [14:00] Nick change: bob_slacker -> vncsnvs [14:00] Nick change: vncsnvs -> bob_slacker [14:00] bye, switching runlevels [14:00] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:00] lizardius (n=florian@p4FDA616B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:01] straterra: how do i turn it off? [14:01] thumbs, edman007, i hope i'm having severe issues! [14:01] turn what off? [14:01] ipod touch [14:01] hit the button at the top.. [14:01] thumbs, edman007, maybe an DoS ? [14:01] bob_slacker: pastebin the last 20 lines from the apache error log. [14:01] ok [14:01] bob_slacker: unlikely. [14:01] straterra: thats a button? lol. does that actually turn it off? [14:02] Yeah.. [14:02] so this thing turns on seriously fast [14:03] raela (n=raela@205.133.227.98) joined ##slackware. [14:03] thumbs, http://pastebin.ca/1354633 [14:03] straterra: now to seal it back in the box and pretend i never played with it before my gf got to first [14:03] she'll know.. [14:04] You had to plug it in to iTunes to even use the damn thing [14:04] of course she'll know when she sees that i added myself to address book, setup the wireless, put music on it [14:04] added apps like mixi and friendface and itranslate [14:04] bob_slacker: something told apache to shut down [14:04] bob_slacker: find out what it is. Ask #centod [14:04] bob_slacker: find out what it is. Ask #centos [14:05] thumbs, noone helps @ that fuckin channel [14:05] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [14:05] bob_slacker: then wait until you get a helpful person [14:05] thumbs, ok man. [14:05] thumbs, thx [14:06] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:06] thumbs, when i connect, half of the page opens, when it occurs, the server freezes and it happens! i'm having nightmares [14:07] bob_slacker: not an issue with apache. [14:07] bob_slacker: most likely a hardware issue. [14:07] Zygocactus (n=Zygocact@201-65-205-22-ebt.cm.ja.net.br) left irc: "." [14:07] thumbs, uhm... i have 2 identical machines [14:07] so what? [14:07] straterra: also, it has my fingerprints ALL over it [14:07] thumbs, ill change the harddisk to another [14:07] thumbs, ill change the harddisk to another one and try [14:07] its like a freaking magnet for them, even worse than my eeepc [14:08] thumbs, what do u think? [14:08] bob_slacker: could be bad RAM, etc [14:08] bob_slacker: have fun [14:08] thumbs, thx [14:08] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) joined ##slackware. [14:08] thumbs, c ya [14:08] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) left ##slackware. [14:08] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) joined ##slackware. [14:08] thumbs: i think it might be the memory, not the ram. [14:08] spook_: something along those lines. [14:08] thumbs: oh come on, i even set you up for the joke [14:08] oh crap. [14:09] thumbs, hey thumbs why u think it isn't apache? [14:09] l2 itcrowd srsly [14:09] spook_: sorry, I blew it. [14:09] thumbs, it just occurs when i connect [14:09] bob_slacker: because something told apache to stop / restart [14:09] Action: spook_ powers up the orbital ion cannon network [14:09] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-428457.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:09] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-428457.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:09] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.181.86.224) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:09] thumbs, isn't it the normal reboot proccess? [14:09] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [14:09] bob_slacker: what? [14:09] bob_slacker: apache does not restart on its own. [14:09] SlackLnx (n=LNX@85.139.11.142) joined ##slackware. [14:10] Action: spook_ scorches thumbs off the face of the planet [14:10] uhm. [14:10] okey [14:10] bob_slacker: a cronjob can restart it, log rotation can, a reboot can. [14:10] i'll keep searching [14:11] Xires (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:11] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-428457.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:12] i want to activate suspend/hibernate in 12.1, i read a post about pm-utils but is not in http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/12.1/ [14:13] it got merged into slackware 12.2 [14:13] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:13] I'd download the slackbuild + source from 12.2 and run that [14:14] did it [14:14] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.90.90.50) left ##slackware ("Saliendo"). [14:15] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. 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[14:54] int203 (n=adam@68.178.106.115) left irc: Client Quit [14:54] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:491) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:54] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) joined ##slackware. [14:54] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:353) joined ##slackware. [14:55] Camarade_Tux: He was in here yesterday and was kicked for some reason I think. [14:55] Ruthven (n=mbutler@70.234.188.67) joined ##slackware. [14:56] int203 (n=adam@68.178.106.115) joined ##slackware. [14:56] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:56] I don't get why he could be here 30 minutes ago but not now [14:56] anyway, got to go [14:56] Camarade_Tux: Yeah, I wondered the same thing. [14:57] int203 (n=adam@68.178.106.115) left irc: Client Quit [14:58] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "life in the rear view mirror" [14:58] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. 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[15:02] ktos (n=ktos@adfo170.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:02] Hi all [15:04] If I have oss compatibility compiled into the kernel, why do I get complaints about oss modules not being found? Do I need to rebuild alsa because it's looking for the nonexistent by default? [15:04] sombriks: Yeah, maybe. It's just weird, so I was trying to figure it out. [15:04] I have just created new user group. Tell me please how to permit this opening any dirs apart from its home? Thank you for help. [15:05] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:05] ktos: selinux [15:05] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [15:05] or chroot jail it [15:07] MrHales, are you using separate alsa drivers, or the in-tree alsa modules? [15:08] is it possible to permit access to services? I would like to just give user an email account without ssh ftp etc [15:08] ktos: Slackware is not that fit for restrictive access [15:08] in tree, as far as I know. I built all necessary sound drivers into the kernel [15:10] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-1-177.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:10] reallove (n=dan@unaffiliated/reallove) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:11] MrHales, and you have selected alsa oss modules? (not real oss support) [15:11] Yes. [15:11] oss mixer api, oss pcm api, oss sequencer? [15:12] Rather than deal with modules, though, I just compiled them in. [15:12] perhaps it is possible to create some virtual sendmail account without system account? [15:13] MrHales, that's why you get the message of modules not being found, you compiled them in and not as modules :-) [15:14] Right, but what's looking for the modules? And since it gripes about not finding them, does that then mean I do not have oss support for those programs which desire it (which shouldn't be many, but you never know) [15:14] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:14] do you have a /dev/dsp? [15:14] yes [15:15] tntslack (n=will@adsl33-25.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:15] so oss would appear to be working. When do you get these messages about modules not being found? [15:15] boot up? [15:16] Yes, just before the window manager starts. It's about the last message I see [15:16] runlevel 4? [15:17] As Alsa is starting, I think. Yes, 4 [15:17] dmesg | grep -i oss? [15:17] bijit (n=chatzill@201.192.89.182) joined ##slackware. [15:17] some things work better as modules and I'm guessing this is the case here [15:17] returns null [15:18] with sound and wifi I go for modules as much as possible [15:18] but ymmv [15:18] Yeah, I'll rebuild for that one, then. Kernel needed further tweaking, anyway. [15:18] credo (n=name@80.233.147.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:18] HEY [15:18] ymmv? [15:18] what can I do to see my vlan from my lan? [15:18] who said null! [15:18] I did. [15:18] Action: MrHales waves [15:18] 'your milage may vary' [15:18] o/ [15:18] null null null null [15:18] \o [15:18] bijit: can you be a little bit more specific? [15:18] o/ [15:18] Ah, I see, dive [15:18] credo (n=name@80.233.147.119) joined ##slackware. [15:19] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:19] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [15:19] This is on my Eee PC, btw. Hmm.. getting ACPI errors. [15:20] i have a vlan 512 for voip but i want to manage phone that are on the vlan. what can i do to see the ip on the vlan.. without creating vlan on my box. [15:20] ACPI: EC: missing confirmations, switch off interrupt mode [15:20] int203 (n=adam@68.178.106.115) joined ##slackware. [15:20] Ether_Man_ (i=Ether_Ma@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Connection timed out [15:20] MrHales, pass on that one :/ [15:21] I would, too [15:21] AlanCox (n=LNX@85.139.11.1) joined ##slackware. [15:21] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Connection timed out [15:22] bijit: setup a router between the vlans [15:22] What is the x app that captures input? I tried apropos, but am not finding it. [15:22] input from which device? [15:22] bijit: either route between the vlans or plug your workstation into a port that is in the vlan of the phones [15:23] Keyboard [15:23] a slack box does the vlan.. [15:23] I had been using it to check input from a Wacom tablet before, but now cannot remember the name.. Spawns a small xwindow and dumps input to console [15:23] that would be a xorg module [15:23] and a cisco does the local lan [15:23] xev [15:23] sorry I misunderstood [15:24] That's the one! Thank you, again, dive. =) [15:24] bijit: well whatever, you need to either route between the vlans or physically connect to the phone vlan box [15:24] np [15:25] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "brb" [15:25] thanks nullboy [15:25] tell me please is ir possible to create some email account at sendmail without creating system account ? [15:26] ktos, u can create a system account , just for send mail , without shell login [15:27] yeah, but i am talking about mail users accounts [15:27] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-122.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [15:27] ok , dunno then [15:28] lannders (n=lannders@107-149.126-70.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:30] thrain][ (n=dpn@69.169.148.47.provo.static.broadweave.net) joined ##slackware. [15:30] ktos, do you mean an access list to sendmail? [15:30] you can create an access list but you need to compile sendmail/submit.cf [15:31] for it to you access.db [15:31] s/you/use [15:31] int203 (n=adam@68.178.106.115) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:32] I just would like to give access to smtp and pop3 for my friend but I don't want to give him any another servises like ssh or ftp [15:32] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:32] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-122.psoas.suomi.net) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [15:32] and he has a local account, or will connect across network? [15:32] across network [15:32] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-122.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [15:33] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:33] he has a static ip? [15:33] nope [15:34] hmm [15:34] difficult [15:34] you know just as he used aol email [15:34] but on my server [15:35] SlackLnx (n=LNX@85.139.11.142) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:35] a local network, or across internet? [15:35] across internet [15:35] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:35] i think this baby is about to spawn [15:36] pop! [15:36] Well [15:36] Don't let the OOMKILLER get it [15:37] there is no some virtual user tab le in sendmail? how aol support millions of users, they don't create them system account after all [15:37] sendmail supports virtual users [15:38] ktos, that's about the limit of my sendmail knowledge [15:38] cow_chix0r: is it still inside you or did it come out? [15:38] that like mine :) [15:38] got an arm hanging out now or what? [15:38] thats* [15:38] lol [15:38] ITS ALIVE [15:39] lol [15:39] STAB IT [15:39] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:39] maybe if we give cow_chix0r a shock the baby will come... [15:39] cow_chix0r, BOOOO! [15:39] I need a tazer [15:39] I wanna taze a ho [15:40] perhaps it is possible to turn off ssh for user foo ? [15:40] ktos, you can force the use of non-password logins and use only rsa auth [15:40] then _only_ someone with proper key in .ssh can login [15:41] ok, I will try to born something :) [15:41] thank you for help guys :) [15:41] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:41] there are a lot of pages around if you google 'no password ssh' [15:42] hehe [15:42] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:42] or of course don't tell him ssh pass [15:42] easier way... [15:43] he is trying to restrict use of services, and alienBOB answered him hours ago. [15:43] yeah but pop3 auth use same password what ssh I guess, so they know that ;) [15:44] nevermind ;) anyway thank you [15:44] Well for ssh access you can use DenyGroups in sshd_config to prevent access [15:45] ktos, pop3 using same pass as ssh?!? [15:45] why? [15:45] alienBOB: gotcha :) [15:45] Nick change: Jimmen -> Shuren [15:45] dive: it uses password from /etc/shadow, doesn't it? [15:46] Of course. [15:46] hmm [15:46] perhaps it is possible to turn off ssh for user foo ? [15:46] just change /bin/bash to /bin/false on /etc/passwd [15:47] DenyGroups is solution as alienBOB wrote [15:47] DeeeeP: hehe [15:47] Action: dive is confused and wanders off to get a beer [15:48] ktos, then see what best solution fits you [15:48] Action: thrain][ drinks to dive's health. Anything for a drink! [15:48] is there a vmware slackware package ? [15:49] I admit I have never set up pop3 but I assumed that pop3 user accounts would be different to normal user accounts and have separate credentials... [15:49] DeeeeP: vmware is "precompiled" ? :P [15:49] it is , but not as tgz package [15:49] i dont like to install anything but tgz [15:50] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:151) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:50] jiraia_ (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:4ab) joined ##slackware. [15:50] I used bin pkg from vmware and worked well [15:50] bin pkg ? from vmware homepage ? [15:50] yea [15:50] dive: POP3 is just a transfer protocol. [15:50] yeah it works [15:50] ktos: it's called a binary repackage [15:51] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:51] jkwood, I see [15:51] firefox is the same way in slackware. it's a binary repackage of the official build [15:51] yeah , that's what im looking for [15:51] ah ok, however never heard about vmware one for slack [15:51] ktos: look at slackbuilds.org [15:52] AFAIK, there shouldn't be much difference in the setup for it. [15:52] ah Slackbuilds has virtualbox instead [15:52] just to keep track of the package , for uninstall proposes [15:52] yeah [15:52] sQuEE (n=narya@host42.201-253-244.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "fnord!!" [15:52] dont have vmware [15:52] keep in mind.. vmware 2.x requires PAM [15:52] virtualbox is quite good [15:53] i like PAM! [15:53] qemu is good [15:53] both on slackbuilds.org I think [15:53] if you have the hardware support, KVM is nice [15:53] does it work with freeBSD ? [15:53] does what work with FBSD? [15:53] at home I use windows edition with slackware on virtual because linux one was frozing sometimes and I like windows :P [15:53] look at the website [15:53] FREE TEH BSD [15:53] one of them will cos I have it set up [15:54] emu wars :P [15:54] http://kvm.qumranet.com/kvmwiki/Guest_Support_Status [15:54] I tend to use qemu, but I found solaris didn't work with it so put that one in vbox [15:55] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [15:57] http://zip.4chan.org/k/src/1236372662036.jpg [15:57] lol [15:58] two out of three enjoying the game. [15:58] lol [15:58] the look on the face of the guy spraying is great [15:59] he's like "yeah b!tch, how's that feel?" [15:59] for sure, and the other one is like, don fsck with us. [16:02] jiraia_ (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:4ab) left irc: "Leaving" [16:02] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. 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[16:48] DeeeeP, you can use the slackbuild script for qt4 [16:48] any problem with the slack pkg ?= [16:48] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/libraries/qt4/ [16:48] DeeeeP, if you get the build script from sbo you can use them both ^ [16:48] Erm... QT4 is not in extra/. It's in testing/ in -current. [16:49] it will not conflict with qt3 [16:49] That, however, is true. [16:49] so , safe to have them both ? [16:49] yes _if_ you get slackbuilds.org script [16:50] yes, i used the sbo for qt4 and now they happily coexist on my system [16:50] ok [16:50] Slackware 12.2 does not have qt4 [16:50] Not in /extra either [16:50] Slackware -current does have it [16:51] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@189.27.17.*.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br expired. [16:51] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@189.27.17.*.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [16:51] DeeeeP, be prepared that depending on your system, building qt4 may take some time :) [16:52] oh crap [16:52] Grab the slackbuild, though. [16:52] i think ill quit on virtualbox and just install vmware [16:52] Which will give you nothing but problems. [16:52] reallove (n=dan@unaffiliated/reallove) joined ##slackware. [16:52] The time investment in VirtualBox is well worth it. [16:52] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:52] but qt4 is such an essential library, some other apps may require it later [16:52] what about vmware ? [16:53] i used it in the past , never had problems with it [16:53] VMWare is coded in Suck-- with an outer layer of Visual Excrement. [16:53] of course , if i can save some resources , i prefer [16:53] geoff_k_ (n=geoff_k_@cpc3-asht4-0-0-cust917.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:54] grazymax (n=grazymax@host74-154-dynamic.35-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:55] grazymax (n=grazymax@host74-154-dynamic.35-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: SendQ exceeded [16:55] firebird619 (n=jeremy@173-17-138-133.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [16:55] grazymax (n=grazymax@host74-154-dynamic.35-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [17:01] DeeeeP, which OS are you going to install in a vm? [17:02] out of interest [17:02] dive, trying freeBSD for the first time [17:02] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:03] I think I have that running in qemu quite well [17:03] qemu does not require qt4 [17:03] hmm [17:03] can u check please [17:03] sure one sec [17:04] hi all. Is there any way of asking find (the shell command) to quote the filenames it prints properly? (e.g., spaces, quotes and the like) [17:04] qemu doesn't require qt4... [17:04] qemu isn't "gui" that I've ever seen [17:04] securekey (n=secureke@blk-224-250-212.eastlink.ca) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:04] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/qemu/README [17:05] jerojasro, what do u mean [17:05] find prints whatever it founds [17:06] DeeeeP: that's the problem [17:06] say I'm doing this [17:07] DeeeeP, freebsd boots fine - although I haven't set it up for X or anything - it's just for learning fs structure more than anything [17:07] find . | xargs ls [17:07] and it finds a file with spaces on it [17:07] mbhayes, indeed no gui needed or wanted [17:07] u would like to try X or whatever they call the graphical server [17:07] then ls will complain, because there are no files called my file, but a file called "my file" [17:08] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [17:08] hersonls (n=hersonls@189.81.247.83) joined ##slackware. [17:08] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [17:09] i still cant see your point [17:10] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [17:10] DeeeeP, gui is fine - kde 3.5 [17:10] ok nice ,thanks , ill try qemu then [17:10] MReimer_ (n=chatzill@p4FD4ABDA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [17:11] DeeeeP, get kqemu too - kernel module [17:11] ok ok [17:12] no sb for kqemu ? [17:12] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [17:12] dunno [17:12] my packages are self made [17:13] not from sbo [17:13] For a given file, what do the permissions -rwSr-sr-- mean? [17:13] im stumped . .. [17:13] I added my user group to another group in /etc/group [17:13] ccfreak2k, 604 with suid bit , i think [17:14] looks like there isn't a sb for kqemu [17:14] yet if I try to edit a file that has w permission in the group [17:14] it is still readonly [17:14] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-122.psoas.suomi.net) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [17:14] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "Saindo" [17:14] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [17:14] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:15] DeeeeP, kqemu is quite fast to build anyway, but you may need to make sure it's compatible with qemu version [17:15] npad: have you logged out and back in? [17:15] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:15] ok , ill download the keqmu source [17:16] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:17] do I have to log out then back in to enforce this group thing? [17:17] or some other command? [17:17] ccfreak2k: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~rc/help/faq/permissions.html [17:17] yes. [17:18] ok [17:18] DeeeeP: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:qemu - read it [17:19] ok thanks [17:20] DeeeeP, kqemu-1.3.0pre11.tar.gz | Use with QEMU <= 0.9.1. - so fully compatible with sb qemu sb [17:21] i've seen it [17:21] will compile that [17:21] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:21] wonder why the guy didn't make kqemu sb..? [17:21] thrice`: ^^^^ :P [17:22] paissad (n=paissad@53.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [17:22] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-94-184.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [17:23] BP{k}, go on tell me.. what's the joke? :-) [17:23] heh [17:23] thrice` made it? [17:23] i have a problem with slackware when i start with 3 level [17:23] alienBOB: I have read that a qemu 0.10 release might be floating about [17:23] man you think 3 is hard, wait till you get to level 7 [17:24] the guy at the end is hard [17:24] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:24] dive: level 7 .. well yeah the guy at the end is hard. but yuo need to dodge down and then up and to the left. [17:24] i use to start with 4 level, but since i've built a new kernel, the nvidia driver does not work properly for the kernel 2.6.28 and i switched to runlevel 3 , but the matter is that DcopServer is bad [17:24] damd i always go right [17:24] Shuren (n=Devilman@host10-235-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "In silence we still talk..." [17:24] i cannot run amarok, or yakuake or even opera ! [17:24] dive: I don't really use qemu, but just did qemu-bin as I thought it would be useful to people. [17:25] does someone already have that problem ? [17:25] ha! the culprit [17:25] thrice`: yes it has been released, 0.10.0 [17:25] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:25] ok lemme have a look at a kqemu sb [17:25] paissad: When you change the kernel. you have to reinstall the nvidia driver [17:25] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.53.228) left irc: "Leaving" [17:25] But the web site is owned by Fabrice and he seems somewhat... away [17:26] mbhayes, i did reinstall the nvidia driver, i installed 180.29 version [17:26] http://savannah.inetbridge.net/qemu/ aha [17:26] paissad: what else did you change? [17:26] hopefully gcc4 support :> [17:26] mbhayes, i also installed 177.82 first ! [17:26] looks like it [17:26] paissad: No.. what else changed besides the kernel [17:27] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-237-227-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left ##slackware. [17:27] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-237-227-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [17:27] dive: do you use qemu ? [17:27] yep [17:27] mbhayes, i did not change anything , i just compiled a new kernel , i installed nvidia 180.29 version kernel, but when i boot with runlevel 4 , the boot blocks at --> X11 Start manager <-- [17:28] so far qemu has worked for everything except solaris - needed vbox for that [17:28] paissad: you installed nvidia drivers from slackbuilds? [17:28] dive: if you're interrested in maintaining (and maybe doing a source-based qemu now that it will compile on gcc4), feel free to take over [17:29] i can do that I think if you have had enough of it? [17:29] pprkut, no, i directly installed the latest version from the nvidia official site, i remembered that someone told me nvidia 177.82 for kernel 2.6.28 had a bug ! [17:30] yeah, well, "bug" might be the wrong word [17:30] Rumor is, maintining QEMU drove thrice` crazy. [17:30] well, the only reason I submitted the current one is because slackbuilds dropped it once it needed gcc 3.4 [17:31] paissad: you had the ones from slackbuilds installed before? [17:31] thrice`, I will have a look at qemu and kqemu then - but I haven't looked at that 0.10.0 yet [17:31] pprkut, yes i had them installed before, but i don't know if i did well, because i removed them [17:31] bad ?? [17:31] anyway, I must run; i'll try later as well :) [17:32] erm: An appropriate representation of the requested resource /qemu/ could not be found on this server. [17:32] paissad: not if you did "nvidia-switch --cleanup" before removing it :) [17:32] Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument [17:32] so much for that link [17:32] pprkut, i did not do that , oops [17:33] thrice`, I will stick with stable source until the homepage gets update perhaps [17:33] paissad: ok, be careful, or you will screw up your system even more. [17:33] LikeVinyl (n=desdemon@186.18.57.7) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [17:34] paissad: first uninstall nvidia drivers by doing "nvidia-installer --uninstall" [17:34] pprkut, ok [17:35] pprkut, done [17:35] i re-install now ? [17:36] paissad: yes. you have three options: (1) install the one from SBo, cleanup and install the .run, (2) install from SBo with patched kernel for 2.6.28 (3) install with slackbuilds for 180.29 [17:37] what do you prefer? [17:38] pprkut, i tried to install for 180.29 with the slackbuilds, but it went bad [17:38] i changed the KERNELVERSION and the VERSION driver of nvidia of course ! [17:38] I have updated ones. All of the three options I mentioned will work [17:38] It's up to you which one you want [17:39] ok, from SBo [17:39] :-) [17:39] 1° [17:39] that would be the one that installs the .run file in the end, without slackbuilds. Fine? [17:40] yes [17:40] good [17:40] you still have the nvidia-driver package? [17:41] anyone using flam3 ? [17:41] paissad: if not, you'll have to recreate it from the slackbuilds. -driver is enough, you won't need -kernel. [17:41] pprkut, i have the 180 version yes [17:42] paissad: no, the slackware package for 177 created by the slackbuilds [17:42] pprkut, i have it too [17:43] install it [17:43] ok [17:44] paissad: when it's installed, run "nvidia-switch --cleanup" [17:45] paissad: afterwards, can you please pastebin the output of "nvidia-switch --check-cleanup"? [17:46] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:46] pprkut, i'll remember, but i need to stop X server in order to follow the installation ! [17:46] is there a hex editor in slack? for cli? [17:47] pprkut, soon so :-) [17:47] nooper, shed [17:47] bpe ? [17:47] i mean, one that comes with slack [17:48] paissad (n=paissad@53.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:48] well, bpe comes with slack [17:49] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [17:49] perfect, thanks [17:52] grazymax (n=grazymax@host74-154-dynamic.35-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:52] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:53] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-204349.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Freedom is secured not by the fulfilling of one's desires, but by the removal of desire. So to a mind that is still, the whol [17:53] grazymax (n=grazymax@host112-154-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [17:54] demoncyber__ (n=demoncyb@189-31-84-230.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:55] paissad (n=paissad@53.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [17:55] alienBOB, nice qemu tutorial , thanks [17:56] Nick change: UdontKnow -> UdrunKnow [17:56] demoncyber__ (n=demoncyb@201-35-212-90.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[17:59] paissad: what did you want with 177.82? [17:59] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-204349.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [18:00] pprkut, you told me to install the package from SBo, or i might be wrong ? [18:00] first [18:00] pprkut, i did ./nvidia.Slackbuild [18:00] * [18:01] you mean, that comes when running ./nvidia-driver.SlackBuild ? [18:01] yes [18:01] -DRIVER?? [18:01] nvidia-kernel [18:01] there we go [18:01] not driver [18:01] you don't need that one [18:02] k k [18:02] you only need -driver [18:02] to repair the system [18:02] ok [18:02] so i begin again [18:02] i go .. [18:03] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:03] paissad: you can install driver without leaving X [18:04] from slackbuilds that is [18:05] ok [18:05] Zygocactus (n=Zygocact@189.22.216.40) joined ##slackware. [18:06] sidmario[luto] (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:06] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.19) left irc: [18:07] pprkut, done, i 've installed nvidia-driver now ! [18:07] from SBo [18:08] good [18:08] now run "nvidia-switch --cleanup" [18:09] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.111) left ##slackware (".. Jesus paid it all, all to Him I owe..."). [18:09] pprkut, done, http://pastebin.ca/1354818 [18:10] paissad: can you also pastebin the output of "nvidia-switch --check-cleanup"? [18:11] jiffypop (n=jiffypop@32.149.47.198) joined ##slackware. [18:11] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@default-ip-teleglobe.shellfusion.net) left irc: "changing servers" [18:11] pprkut, here --> http://pastebin.ca/1354819 [18:11] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:12] paissad: everything's fine [18:12] you can now remove the driver again [18:12] loool [18:12] ok ok [18:13] removepkg /var/log/package/nvidia-driver** you mean ? [18:13] afterwards the run file should install without problems [18:13] yes [18:13] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) left irc: "leaving" [18:13] done [18:13] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:15] what have i to do now ? ... [18:16] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [18:16] pprkut, [18:16] if you have removed the package, dop out of X and install from .run file ;) [18:17] *drop [18:17] ok [18:17] sidmario[luto] (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:18] pprkut, not kernel, but driver only ? [18:19] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-72-131-0-46.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:19] paissad: ideally you should now not have any nvidia-* entries in /var/log/packages [18:20] pprkut, i have no nvdia package [18:20] alright then [18:20] just run the binary installer (no slackbuilds) [18:21] ok ok , i'll do so, thanks ! i come back soon tell you [18:21] ok [18:21] paissad (n=paissad@53.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:22] there's the slight chance it might not work......let's see... [18:23] quick question, to download all files under an HTTP dir, "wget -r -l1 http://something.com/bar/" should work, correct? [18:23] but it's not, I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong. would it perhaps have something to do with robots.txt? [18:27] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [18:30] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:30] paissad (n=paissad@53.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [18:30] pprkut, thanks guy, it's ok now [18:30] dive, can u run "qemu -cpu ?" ? [18:31] should show cpu list, but fails [18:31] qemu: option '-cpu' requires an argument [18:31] pprkut, so if i understand, i always must remove the nvidia binaries and rerun it everytime i build a new kernel ,? [18:31] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "leaving" [18:32] dive, ? should bring cpu list [18:32] no idea [18:32] MReimer_ (n=chatzill@p4FD4ABDA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Chatzilla 0.9.75.1 [SeaMonkey 1.1.14/2008122618]" [18:32] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:32] I've never had to use that option [18:32] ok [18:34] paissad: no. you have to remove nvidia binary driver before installing from slackbuilds and vice versa, but not if you upgrade from binary to binary or from slackbuild to slackbuild [18:36] pilipo (n=pilipo@121.96.216.156) joined ##slackware. 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[18:54] Action: NyteOwl saw a nice car today but it was only the SXT model with the 3.5l 6 :( [18:54] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:55] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@89-180-183-254.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:55] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:55] NyteOwl: who makes the SXT? [18:55] SXT is a package. It was a Dodge Magnum [18:56] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [18:56] nyei smoked another autozone honduh today [18:56] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.181.108.138) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:56] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [18:56] NyteOwl: ^^ [18:56] SpyKee (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) joined ##slackware. [18:57] The-spiki (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:00] Toyota needs to start making the Supra again [19:00] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-199.nys.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:02] no pirates tonite on the shortwave :( [19:02] heh [19:02] scotch anyone? [19:03] Action: eviljames pours a glass [19:03] Everclear! :D [19:03] Hm. I wonder if the accountant still has that bottle in his desk. [19:03] Action: eviljames can't wait to leave the office. [19:03] pilipo (n=pilipo@121.96.216.156) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:04] I remember cutting school in 10th grade and getting completely trashed on everclear and OJ. good times =) [19:04] ha! there is one pirate, but he is using AM mode plenty of strong carrier but the modulation is weak [19:06] some people that use radios need to understand on AM that it is always best have a moderatly sized carrier and most the power in the modulation 90% to 100% but not over modulated where it has distortion [19:07] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [19:08] for example if i have an AM transmitter capable of 100 watts i would rather use 35 to 50 watts carrier and have the microphone gain turned up to about 75% [19:08] Which one of you has a ham license? [19:09] there are a number in here [19:09] You need a licence to eat ham now? i knew i should have voted McCain [19:09] not me, i am just a trashy CB operator [19:09] lol [19:09] Nick change: acidkill_ -> acidkill [19:10] 10-4 good buddy ;) [19:10] thats a roger [19:10] 10-4 elenor ;) [19:11] roger roger [19:11] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [19:11] I ought to clonk your heads together. [19:11] breaker 19 for the head clonker ;) [19:11] i listen to those fishing boats in the gulf of mexico in the mornings before i go to work, they are sometimes hard to understand because of that cajun accent [19:12] Action: NyteOwl really needs to win a lottery with car prices the way they are :/ [19:13] NyteOwl: 10x inflation since 1970 means a $2500 car is now $25000 [19:14] me too, i buy a 5 dollar lottery ticket once a week, if i win i am going to buy an oil drilling rig (the derrick) and use a backhoe to dig out an 8 or 10 foot deep hole in the ground and use about 2 or 3 cement trucks to cement it in to the ground = my new radio tower :D [19:14] Action: NyteOwl would prefer a US Tower Sky-Needle model [19:15] faffi_ (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [19:15] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:16] an oil derrick is tough, it would take a direct hit from a tornado and it might bend it a little, besides it would be free standing and have a ladder going up the side of it, remove the pullys from the crown and fill in the hole with some more deck plate [19:18] got a link to a sky-needle photo? [19:20] nevermind, found some [19:20] biggest one: http://www.ustower.com/ma-850.html [19:21] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-48-193.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:21] They used to make a 100' and the top 30' was rotateable [19:21] completely free standing [19:22] that would be a good tower [19:22] http://www.dougronald.com/photo.htm scroll down about half way, here is a great setup [19:24] evo- (n=evo@p57A56933.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [19:24] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-48-193.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[19:39] god [19:40] god is not here [19:40] tntslack (n=will@adsl33-25.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:40] you can say that again [19:40] when he comes back, can you ask him a faster machine ? flam3 needs a lot of processing power =/ [19:41] Any other reincarnations of god available? [19:42] i dont believe in reincarnation, but i did in a previous life [19:42] if god comes back I will use his kneecaps for baseball practice for bringing into existence the qemu devs [19:42] lol [19:43] taquito (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:43] dive: Surely there are other devs that require smiting? [19:43] 'Oh.. I'm sorry, we don't support $DESTDIR, what does it mean?' [19:43] recompiling flam3 with -fPIC -O3 -march=native instead of -fPIC -O2 made it 30% faster :) [19:43] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:43] did you try INSTALL_ROOT=/path/where/you/want/to/run/makepkg [19:44] thrice`, 2-0 me [19:44] dive, don't complain already, they just released a new version :) [19:44] I guess I could just makepkg but it would mean hosting a binary somewhere [19:45] should I go to bed now or wait for an image that will take 22 more minutes to render (had been rendering for three minutes) ? [19:46] Camarade_Tux: what processor is in your comp? [19:46] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:47] Core2 Duo, 1.66GHz (T5550 iirc) [19:48] 5450, thanks uname [19:48] And how big is this image? [19:48] should be a 4MB png [19:48] Resolution? [19:48] it should actually be bigger but I can't tell right now [19:48] GArik_ (n=wesnoth@mpd-794.tvcom.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [19:49] 2560x1600 [19:49] This is just random stuff? [19:49] Or a randomly-generated image? [19:50] depends on your definition of random ;) http://draves.org/pix/flames/049.jpg http://draves.org/pix/flames/149.jpg [19:51] Well, I more meant did you provide a seed for the flames, or did flam3 generate it? [19:52] I just started playing with flam3 so I haven't changed anything yet [19:52] second one is nice [19:52] Indeed. This looks like something that would be good running on the PS3's processor. [19:53] Action: Camarade_Tux likes that one : http://draves.org/pix/frame3.cgi?dir=flames&file=147.jpg&zoom=0 [19:53] I've been surprised to see my two cores fully used :) [19:55] I think I'll hack some script so it renders random flames while my laptop is idle and on sector so I can have a nice collection and have a new one every hour or so, even when on battery :) [19:55] rendering over 50% now, guess I'm going to wait for it to end ;p [19:56] flam3 is going to eat your battery like no tomorrow [19:56] Also, how much memory is it using? [19:56] that's why I want to render when I'm not on battery and store them :) [19:57] currently 500-550MB (supersample=2, with supersample=0 it was using something like 20MB) [19:57] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-123.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:58] Hm... this is giving me ideas... [19:58] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:59] supersample=4 would make it use 2GB memory though :D [19:59] this is giving me a headache [20:00] taquito (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [20:01] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-428457.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:02] Action: Camarade_Tux wonders when is nix_chix0r's day [20:02] Greetings from Northern Canada:) [20:03] hi hitest [20:04] hi Camarade_Tux:) [20:04] is it cold up there? [20:04] not too bad, sleet is falling now [20:05] having a brew......feeling warm already:) [20:06] anyone an lwn member who could help me read http://lwn.net/Articles/322163/ ? =) [20:07] Nick change: uDrunkNow -> root [20:07] 30 seconds left :) [20:08] Camarade_Tux, i hope you are going to post on the intertubes? [20:08] so we can see it [20:08] yeah [20:08] of course if it's worth it [20:09] one rendering was completely useless [20:10] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:11] the useless one was : http://www.kwikpiks.com/files/100/0.png [20:12] I'm still waiting for the other one to finish [20:12] How'd you make it so blobby? [20:12] I didn't do anything, randomness did [20:13] jiffypop (n=ace@mobile-166-217-247-026.mycingular.net) joined ##slackware. [20:13] it's weird, it doesn't want to tell me the file is written but it seems to be [20:13] is this thing on? [20:14] jiffypop: Nope [20:14] dammit, man [20:14] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@186.66.71.71) joined ##slackware. [20:15] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-48-193.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:15] http://www.kwikpiks.com/files/100/a.png :) [20:15] warning : 5MB file (I made it 2560x1600 so it looks better on my 1280x800 screen) [20:16] ummm [20:17] Needs more blue [20:17] Camarade_Tux: few things wrong with that lol. [20:18] but as I said I let the computer do it [20:18] that's great but it's downloading at 10kbs :( [20:18] Camarade_Tux: How'd you let random do that? [20:19] I actually quite like it and it should be alright to put text on it for a wallpaper [20:19] agentc0re, of course flam3 has an algorithm but I let the parameters be random [20:21] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:27] http://www.kwikpiks.com/files/100/b.png <- nice, "light" one :) [20:31] going to bed now, good night [20:31] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [20:33] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.7.182) joined ##slackware. [20:34] are you still with FF-3.0.5 or upgraded to .7? [20:38] did you look? [20:39] you can always grab the latest firefox binary from mozilla.org [20:40] Pig_Pen, but that means you have to run the binary instead of the packaged version, right? [20:40] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Connection timed out [20:40] nix_chix (n=misspwn@75-104-27-134.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [20:41] if you understand your Slackware Linux install then that should not be a problem for you [20:41] IntangibleLiquid: 3.0.6 is the latest, but 3.0.7 will probably go into patches soon [20:41] paissad (n=paissad@53.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:42] cow_chix0r (n=misspwn@75-104-27-134.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:42] thrice`, thanks :) [20:44] you can always package it yourself [20:45] dionysian: I'm a pretty noob user, but 'd like to learn about it. can you point me to some docs? [20:48] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@dqq234.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:48] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [20:48] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@acwh54.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [20:49] IntangibleLiquid: slackbook [20:53] also, slackwiki (both sites end in .org) [20:55] look for software on slackbuilds.org first [20:56] staimeer (n=staimeer@201.29.87.112) joined ##slackware. [20:56] staimeer (n=staimeer@201.29.87.112) left ##slackware. [20:57] dionysian, thanks. SBO is great [20:58] there are links there on making slackbuilds [20:58] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-199.nys.biz.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:58] teach you exactly how to make a slackware package, by writing a script that makes one [20:59] dionysian, will learn how to make them, very handy [20:59] paissad (n=paissad@53.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [21:01] paissad_ (n=paissad@53.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [21:01] paissad_ (n=paissad@53.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:02] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:03] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-23.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:04] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-48-56.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:04] G'evenin'(or afternoon or mornin' dependin' where y'are),ladies and gentlemen [21:04] Something like that. [21:04] What about genderless aliens? [21:05] G'evenin to them too [21:05] beobeo (n=beobeo@123-243-115-92.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [21:06] hello [21:06] hello [21:06] is this slackware channel [21:06] im new [21:06] yeah [21:07] Welcome :) [21:07] no, this is the #slackware channel. to go to the slackware channel, go to #slackware [21:07] heh [21:07] ###slackware, lol [21:09] frullet (n=hooch@124-171-57-186.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [21:09] Rodrigo_Lopes (n=wiegraf7@201-92-231-56.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:09] ..................... [21:10] i seriously must be having the worste luck today, my slackware router went down because one of the pci slots decided to die, i think ok i have a backup, plug in another old pc i have laying around and the psu burns out and smokes. =/ [21:11] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [21:12] PSU burn out from bad voltage or from the mobo,frullet? [21:12] what is a better mame in slackware?? [21:12] I blew up a power supply two weeks ago. [21:12] MLanden, bad voltage, but it took the mobo with it [21:13] OUCH..sorry to hear 'bout it,frullet [21:13] bummer [21:13] blew up power suply??? [21:14] any specialist in mame emulator??????? [21:15] please.. I want play... to death.. vicious... [21:15] is it a big different between 32bit vs 64bit? i have a core2 dual but slackware only supports 32bit [21:16] yes, it has twice the bitz [21:16] beobeo, did you try a slam64??? [21:17] nope, i plan to, however, i'd reall love to stick with Slackware [21:17] slamd64 is as close as you'll get [21:18] i pllan to download slamd64 tonite [21:18] indeed, if ever there was a port of slackware to 64 bit, slamd64 would be it. [21:18] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:18] in the future, is slackware gonna support 64bit? anyone knows??? [21:18] now, with slamd64, i can generate md5sums of isos at least twice as fast! [21:19] eviljames, try md5deep it's parralled, it'll be even quicker then that too [21:19] I suppose that would depend on wether or not Pat V gets any 64bit hardware.. [21:19] Old_Fogie: neat, I will! [21:19] Action: Old_Fogie waves hello the chann [21:20] Action: NaCl waves at Old_Fogie [21:20] hiya Fogie [21:20] I would say it's probably inevitable eventually, if it wants to keep competing. There's a bit more 32-bit hardware around with netbooks and the like [21:20] I have a 64bits, computer and try slam64 and windows64.. the two SOs... is a crap... and have many problemns with anoters prograns.... I think the now, the bether is a GOOD 32 bitsSO..... [21:20] But most desktops and servers are edging towards or past 4GB or RAM. [21:20] Action: MLanden nods in Old_Fogie's direction and says good evening..:D [21:21] Action: eviljames fires up a cigar and pours a whiskey, 'tis early on Friday evening. [21:22] I use Slack cuz it is 32 bit and has half the errors of a 64bit OS. In fact, I'm presently compiling a rebuild of *all* of Slackware to be 16bit! MooHaa /me welcomes stability! [21:23] Why not go for 8 bit? Or even 1 bit? [21:23] kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk [21:23] any simple question [21:23] AlexElliott: Well, it seems there are 2 camps. There are 'casual' users, who probably don't need much more than 2ghz, 32 bit word length, 1gb of ram, etc. [21:23] NaCl, yea that's on my todo yup [21:23] eviljames, that example would be me [21:23] At the moment, technology moves on - though perhaps more slowly in this climate [21:23] AlexElliott: On the other hand, there are people who actually use their computer. Most of them are getting over the 4gb mark handily [21:23] ...and my family [21:23] do you think, the ubuntu is a linux ????? [21:24] Old_Fogie: definitely, that certain point is sufficient to run most software that people use. [21:24] get to facebook, watch youtube vids, be a jukebox, be a photo album, play a game here or there. [21:24] Old_Fogie: There are plenty of 1-bit computers in your walls. [21:24] eviljames, yea only reason I'd need more than that is for a vm to do my builds in. I do a *ton* of building. But my day to day..yea 2ghz linux 1 gig ram is more than suffice. Heck I'm on a 866mhz now :) [21:25] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@a81-84-84-66.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [21:25] The focus is moving a bit towards making current-spec cheaper, rather than increasing spec. But - even so [21:25] Old_Fogie: comparatively, the system I'm on now is a quad core, I'm swapping despite having 4gb of ram [21:25] hi all [21:26] Most of the laptops and desktops I see advertised today have about 3GB RAM, and I expect that to increase as time moves on. [21:26] eviljames, do you have vm's running? [21:26] eviljames, or building? [21:26] Old_Fogie: then again, I have windows xp and windows 7 virtualized right now [21:26] I don't say there needs to be 64bit /now/ [21:26] But I think it will have to happen eventually [21:26] eviljames, aha yes I see that makes sense [21:27] I have a 266mhz file server/back box, that has lighthttp running on it. I like the low power :D [21:27] AlexElliott: they're getting people used to seeing ram in increments of 3 now. [21:27] i want to patch a network driver.. rtl8187 driver, so i did patch -p0 file.patch and it ask for ( what file you want to patch ) what should I ask ? [21:27] tiz my slapt-get repo, mail, picture server you name it. [21:27] AlexElliott: core i7 qpi is optimized in a way that makes it to your advantage to use 3 or 6 ram slots [21:28] at least, that's how the chipset is organized or something, i'd have to go look it up. [21:28] i00nsu: patch -p0 < file.patch would work, IIRC [21:28] bbiab [21:28] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: [21:28] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:28] i00nsu: add -i [21:28] inline [21:30] NaCl: yes, the point is, this patch ask me for what file I want to patch. I don't know what file should I patch.. [21:30] i00nsu: are you trying to patch the kernel? [21:31] nop, i am trying to patch my rtl network driver [21:31] so, you're working on rtl source? [21:33] don't know the anser.. i have the rtl drivers, but i need this patch to use software like aireplay-ng or kismet . to let me inject code and stuff [21:33] (the rtl driver probably exists *in* the kernel, so you'll probably trying to patch the kernel source [21:33] you're* [21:33] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [21:34] eg, you can't just download a patch and run it :) [21:34] which plugin is better do you guys find? vlc mozilla or mplayer? I ask since I really dont want to build both on the old hardware as an excercise in patience if you all have a good feel for it already [21:34] i dont get it.. what file should i point't ? [21:35] Old_Fogie, uh [21:35] err [21:35] plugin for what? [21:35] And since when was Mozilla a plugin for anything? [21:36] ccfreak2k, a all in one media player plugin for webpages. [21:36] dive: ok, I have a qemu 0.10.0 :) [21:36] I use the mplayer-plugin [21:36] Old_Fogie: I would say mplayer [21:36] nice - I'm working kqemu sb [21:36] I haven't tried any others but it works good for me [21:36] I have totem, it's ok, kaffeine too, again...just ok. but they're not perfect. I heard vlc and also mplayer plugin are good, but which is better vlc or mplayer [21:36] is there a new kqemu too? [21:37] no! that was your job [21:37] thrice`: tell me an exemple, if u download a patch for a network drive and the patch ask u what file u want to patch, what file do u anser to patch ? [21:37] twolf, MLanden ok thanks [21:38] dive: if you're interrested: http://rafb.net/p/hC1xM235.html [21:38] Old_Fogie:np [21:38] with source @ http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/qemu/qemu-0.10.0.tar.gz [21:39] ok tanks [21:39] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:46] ok.. i got it.. so I need to compile the kernel to use this patch ? [21:46] thrice`, would there be anything in a kernel module to strip? [21:47] elf or whatver? [21:49] I mean it's not executable so there wouldn't, right? [21:50] any to disponible to try zsnes online?? [21:50] @thrice: why sometimes we only use CFLAGS but sometimes we have to use both CFLAGS AND CXXFLAGS [21:51] beobeo, cxx is c++ ; cflags is just c [21:52] @Old_Forgie, how we know when app is written in C or C++ [21:52] beobeo, you can type "ol" then hit tab key it complete my name and I'll be notified. [21:53] beobeo, the code is readable to human eye you can just look at it, or do what most slackbuilds do, the declare the cflags and cxxflags and the compiler will be determined automagically. it's kind of like saying, "hey autotools, if it's 'c' code use this, if it's c++ then use that..." [21:54] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left ##slackware. [21:54] frullet (n=hooch@124-171-57-186.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [21:55] Old_Fogie: Thanks for your tips. hihi, i now understand more about slackbuild script [21:55] beobeo, yw [21:56] demoncyber__ (n=demoncyb@201-35-212-90.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:56] demoncyber__ (n=demoncyb@201-41-204-94.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:57] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@186.66.71.71) left irc: "Saliendo" [21:58] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-237-227-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [22:06] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@a81-84-84-66.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:07] SchmittyDoesIt (n=root@24.121.227.138) joined ##slackware. [22:07] what is the slax update manager [22:07] Wow you can type "smb://192.xyz.abc.1234" and access samba shares in firefox? [22:08] yum is to RH as _____ is to slax [22:08] SchmittyDoesIt : you're in the wrong channel. this isn't #slax [22:08] isn't slax short for slackware? [22:08] not at all [22:09] oic [22:09] whats the slackware update manager? [22:09] slax is based on slackware, but it's not slackware [22:09] ic [22:09] i'd recommend checking with #slax first [22:10] i did, small channel, no answers [22:10] so slackware doesn't have an update manager that works like yum or apt? [22:10] SchmittyDoesIt : just to let you know, slackware's package manager doesn't support fetching packages from the network [22:11] oh [22:11] so with slackware you have to manually check the repos? [22:11] it's a very minimalistic package manager: you can install/remove/upgrade packages [22:11] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:11] yes. there is slackpkg, which addresses some of those issues [22:11] ok [22:12] Xires (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:12] thanks [22:14] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleep" [22:15] SchmittyDoesIt (n=root@24.121.227.138) left irc: "Leaving" [22:15] i'm out of beer :( [22:15] nooper: Shit! You know that's punishable in some countries right? ;) [22:15] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:16] ace__ (n=ace@mobile-166-217-217-196.mycingular.net) joined ##slackware. [22:17] ..im out.. ..and try another day.. [22:17] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [22:19] Nick change: ace__ -> frehleyfreak [22:19] dive: shouldn't be, no [22:22] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [22:23] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:23] beobeo (n=beobeo@123-243-115-92.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [22:23] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:23] Ether_Man_ (i=Ether_Ma@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [22:23] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [22:24] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:28] jiffypop (n=ace@mobile-166-217-247-026.mycingular.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:29] well, when my alter ego goes away [22:29] frehleyfreak (n=ace@mobile-166-217-217-196.mycingular.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:30] hersonls (n=hersonls@189.81.247.83) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:31] jiffypop (n=ace@mobile-166-217-217-196.mycingular.net) joined ##slackware. [22:31] firebird619 (n=jeremy@173-17-138-133.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [22:33] hmm?!?..alter egos visiting? [22:33] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [22:33] blablabla....lets fight.. in any game.. this is a way to sucesss [22:34] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:35] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:36] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:36] lol, yea [22:37] see, i don't really go by jiffypop [22:37] Prefe (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:37] it just sorta happened to work out for a backup nick [22:37] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:38] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [22:38] but my nickname (for all intents and purposes, my real name) is Ace [22:38] grazymax (n=grazymax@host112-154-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [22:38] Rodrigo_Lopes (n=wiegraf7@201-92-231-56.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [22:38] i'd like to pop you:| [22:38] i've been called that for over 30 years now [22:38] my dad, who i'm named after even calls me Ace [22:39] but to say it's a common nick online is an understatement [22:39] so i go with jiffypop [22:39] not common at all [22:39] thrice`, kqemu is almost done but I will have to check it against the new qemu release, do a proper readme, slack-desc etc tomorrow [22:40] it is when you're trying to get on irc :-/ [22:41] the only people who call me by my real name are the people i work with and the authorities on occasion [22:41] but yea, i was a huge kiss fan in my younger days and ace frehley especially [22:41] so it sort of stuck [22:42] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. 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[22:59] lol, not mysticism so much as wishful thinking [22:59] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: "Leaving" [23:00] hear ya,jiffypop [23:00] honestly, i have a son who will be 29 this year and met his mother while we were both in the air force and she didn't know my real name until we had been together over a year [23:01] ah, yes...the 70's were the whip [23:01] beej71 (n=beej@zork.zork.net) joined ##slackware. [23:01] barely remember my 70's self :-( [23:03] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:04] jiffypop: nice to meet another older person here on ## slackware:) I'm on the plus side of 50 [23:04] get thee behind me satan [23:04] lmao [23:04] heh [23:04] i got 3 more years to go [23:05] your 47? [23:05] ayuh [23:05] well, i will be in april [23:05] jeez........young fella I'm 51 [23:05] don't tell anyone, but I'm also 47 [23:05] hahaha [23:05] lol [23:06] jesus, who have we become [23:06] :-) [23:06] Nick change: chopp -> old_chopp [23:06] LOL [23:06] i absolutely refuse to believe i'm almost a half century old [23:06] Action: old_chopp gives Old_Fogie a poke [23:07] chronologically maybe but i ain't given an inch [23:07] thats the attitude. :) [23:07] I'm used to being an old bastard.......but.......I'm a happy SOB [23:08] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:08] being older is not that bad. [23:08] true [23:09] I'm still relatively young. [23:09] ya know, it's funny. i move folks for a living and have the highest driver rating a man can have in the moving biz and i've moved folks that you would in no way believe i've moved [23:09] but I can appreciate the maturity age brought me [23:09] and if you didn't know me, you might not let me in the yard let alone the house [23:09] lol [23:09] jiffypop: never judge a book by its cover. [23:09] maturity? [23:09] damn that [23:10] each one of us will mature up to a point. You have to strike a balance. [23:11] no...*you* have to strike a balance. i just gotta ride this out til the carnival closes down and it's all over :-/ [23:11] People that say that age brings wisdom are misinformed.......I'm not that bright:) [23:11] maturity...bah [23:11] jiffypop: that is one approach. [23:12] nah, i can't say that. i just don't want to be mature [23:12] i wanna take off this uniform and leave the show [23:12] Yeah......talk to my wife....she would never accuse me of being mature:) [23:13] I've been called too mature for my age several times [23:13] I suppose extremes are not good. [23:14] agreed [23:15] tell ya how mature i come across. my 14 year old daughter has a friend who tells me i have penis envy because hers is bigger than mine, lol [23:15] i might grow old but i won't grow up [23:15] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:15] not soon anyway [23:15] yes....sounds good, man [23:16] nix_chix, name change? [23:18] here's mature for ya. i wear my Stewie shirts to parent-teacher conferences [23:18] and defy any of the faculty to say a word about it [23:18] ;-) [23:19] I suppose once you've established your reputation, it's fine. [23:20] drmanhattan4321 (n=12312331@189-47-251-79.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:20] My 14 year-old threatens me with death if I ever show-up at one of her school dances.......Muhahahah:) [23:21] my 14 year old doesn't love me she tolerates me [23:21] yeah [23:21] I'm happy if she talks to me [23:21] I wish I had children. [23:21] when she was younger and drew pictures of dad, she made sure to show me she put in the bald spot [23:22] kids are a blessing, regardless of the relationship you have with them [23:22] but she's me up one side and down the other, so i can't bitch [23:23] Action: jiffypop is a tad over blessed [23:23] lol [23:23] gotta go smoke [23:23] Heh-heh, yeah......my kid enjoys pointing out my gut........troll [23:23] :-) [23:23] evo- (n=evo@p57A56933.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [23:23] I want kids :( [23:23] you sure? [23:23] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:23] yes. [23:24] expensive [23:24] no, they are not. [23:24] kids bring joy to my life [23:24] kiwiguy (i=kiwiguy@server1.bshellz.net) joined ##slackware. [23:24] financially thy are......but...they'rer worth it [23:24] you can't put a price on happyness [23:24] they [23:24] cmKzzz (n=martink@122-57-170-35.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [23:25] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:25] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [23:25] Hey all, ive put SWAT online in my inetd.conf file, but id like to bind it to localhost instead of the default 0.0.0.0:901 that its currently listening on, how can i go about this? [23:26] drmanhattan4321 (n=12312331@189-47-251-79.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:27] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [23:27] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:28] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [23:28] i took my mom's wifi card [23:29] her's was better than mine [23:29] lol [23:31] what card,nullboy? [23:31] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:33] hi guys, I am going to set-up a combined server/workstation for my home office and I have two 120GB disks. One is intended for backup purposes. I could setup one disk as the main one and then rsync to a partition on the other, but that seems a bit primitive. Is software RAID-1 any good? What would you guys recommend? [23:34] kiwiguy, bindAddr:service [23:34] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:34] kiwiguy, so you will have 192.168.1.1:swat stream tcp nowait.400 root /usr/sbin/swat swat [23:35] MLanden: she had a PC card atheros [23:35] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:35] cool,nullboy...good digs...:D [23:35] Action: edman007 has a desktop and laptop with atheros [23:35] cmKzzz, the different methods fill different needs.. [23:36] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:37] raid-1 will be slightly faster, rsync will save you from a few extra problems (like accidental deletes), and the load on the second drive with rsync will be different, and thus the drives are less likely to fail together [23:38] Nick change: old_chopp -> chopp [23:39] night all [23:39] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:40] edman007: Yes, true. So as performance is no problem and i'm happy with nightly backups then raid-1 is a bit overkill I guess. [23:41] well they are different, and rsync is better if you need backups :) [23:41] take care,folks [23:41] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-23.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving." [23:44] Ok, so lets do this: Disk1: LVM -> all partitions. Disk2: LVM->backup partition. Then if I decide to buy an external backup drive I can easily just add the other disk to the main partitions. Does that sound like a "decent" setup? [23:44] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: "-1" [23:45] yea, i gotta roll as well. prolly won't see y'all for a few days. goin home for a couple and there's no wireless there [23:45] be good or be good at it [23:45] jiffypop (n=ace@mobile-166-217-217-196.mycingular.net) left irc: "later folks" [23:50] Gargantu (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:50] _stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:50] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [23:51] is it possible at all to have swat listen only on localhost with inetd.conf? ive tried googline about but it seems that swat can only be bound to localhost with xinetd.d... [23:52] i don't use swat. however, you could block access with iptables [23:53] kiwiguy, are you just ignoring me? or... [23:53] what? [23:54] oh sorry, didnt see your message, im using a small consol window here [23:54] thanks anyway [23:55] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.56.151.195) joined ##slackware. [23:55] :) [23:55] its in the man page.. [23:55] i can read :P [23:55] man inetd [23:55] i cant, not those horrible arcane things anywhow, but that worked, :) [23:56] wtf [23:56] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-170-57.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:56] you're going to have a difficult time [23:56] i get by ok without man [23:56] many other resources out there [23:57] Action: edman007 wonders if kiwiguy can get buy without IRC [23:57] lol [23:57] sure, mates, forums, internet, so on [23:59] Zygocactus (n=Zygocact@189.22.216.40) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:59] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [23:59] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [00:00] --- Sat Mar 7 2009