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[00:46] Nick change: bleeding|edge -> phoenix^ [00:46] jhw_ (~jhw@p548D6D0B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:46] Dominian (dominian@about/linux/staff/dominian) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [00:47] Dominian (dominian@about/linux/staff/dominian) joined ##slackware. [00:52] wharncliffe (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:53] Is it cool to ask/have someone do a port scan on me? [00:54] its your computer [00:54] do what you want :p [00:54] Gotta look from the outside gniks. [00:54] Found some webbased ones... [00:55] right, what i mean is have someone do whatever you want with it& there are no laws or many ethical rules to prevent it :p [00:56] gniks, you down? [00:56] hmmm [00:57] I ask so I can pm you. [00:57] Nvm, it's cool. I'm paranoid, I got some weird connections open I can't explain though. [00:57] actually there is site that can do it for you, and its pretty good [00:57] nmap-online.com [00:57] you an pm me if you want [00:57] Sorry I should have googled. [00:58] wasn't what i was looking for [00:58] but that works too [01:00] I think the bed bugs are now hacking my server. [01:00] hehe most liekly [01:02] http://www.happyassassin.net/2010/08/05/finishing-up-controversial-crap-week-what-canonical-ought-to-do/#comment-2155 [01:02] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [01:02] kms is pretty nice :) [01:02] MrJackson (~MrJackson@cpe-24-94-41-123.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug. 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[02:06] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:06] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [02:07] i run 13.0... and want to update the packages (still staying in 13.0).. what option to be used in slackpkg command... 'upgrade'? (i have already run slackpkg update) [02:08] upgrade will work [02:08] but, i highly recommend that if you are taking packages from 13.1 that you install all of 13.1 [02:08] See "man slackpkg" - it has handy discussion of this. [02:09] 245 lines - read all of it :) [02:09] gniks, i amm not intending to take packages from 13.1 [02:09] njathan: also the readme and upgrade.txt files - there's a change to the hard drive libs that will affect you [02:10] ok - if you're just staying in 13.0, then as noted "man slackpkg" and make sure you're mirrors file points to the right place [02:10] just need to make sure it points to the correct version in the mirror, right? [02:10] for standard mirrors - it's "slackware-/slackware" [02:11] njathan: I don't mean to sound RTFM-ish, but I don't see why I should re-type what's already on your system. [02:11] but might be "slackware-" - check the notes and examples in the mirrors file [02:12] I know teabagira is out there watching, so I don't want him to think that his tilting at windmills is having any effect on the wind. [02:12] heh [02:12] rtfm is also shorthand for "learn your system rather than rely on straners for handholding" as well [02:12] strangers [02:13] I like for strangers to hold my hand. Especially petite blonde beauty strangers. [02:13] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [02:13] rworkman, i did look into the man page, and was confused by the wordings for 'upgrade' option. It says 'upgrade installs the most recent official version of the specified package(s). upgrade will not attempt to install new packages (use the install function for that purpose...." [02:13] And then I have to outrun my wife. [02:13] what? you mean handing my root password out on irc and asking people to mount my usb drive for me isn't how I should do it? [02:14] raela: is that euphemism? ;-) [02:14] njathan: that's pretty clear - if you don't have firefox installed, then the firefox update will not be installed [02:14] rworkman: not intentional, believe it or not.. maybe it's my subconscious talking [02:14] if firefox is installed, then firefox will get upgraded if an update is available [02:14] alisonken1home, aah.. ok.. i thought 'new' as in [02:14] 'new versions' [02:14] njathan: Okay, much better question this time :) Probably you want: "slackpkg update ; slackpkg upgrade-all" since you're wanting to track -stable [02:15] raela: almost surely ;-) [02:15] njathan: every upgrade is to a newer version [02:16] in this case, it's the security update which is the newer version for that major version - ex; firefox-2.7 -> firefox-2.8 [02:16] there is an exception to that, but that gets into package maintenance [02:17] when i start a screen session: screen -S blah. it loses the environment variables, i cannot find a switch for it to remember them [02:17] Did someone here have a Dell Inspiron Mini 10 that died? If so, want to sell the battery? [02:18] could this possibly be the work of a IE explorer vulnerability ? [02:19] Huh? [02:19] im being silly :P [02:20] It's a client's machine. I replaced the LCD in it earlier today, and it's fine now, but it seems the battery is *completely* dead now (and it wasn't when I got the machine). The BIOS tells me that the "battery is not recognized" and thus "cannot be charged" [02:20] I booted SLackware via usb, and no battery is registered there either :/ [02:20] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:21] So... I *know* I didn't do anything to cause the battery to die, but I'd rather not have to eat $50 for a new one. I know I don't *have* to, but it's just good business. [02:22] that sucks when it happens [02:22] Yeah :/ I was already doing this on the cheap since it's a friend of my wife... [02:22] $50 will eat about 2/3 of my profit on this. [02:23] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:23] The LCD was a *bitch* to replace in this. Hardest one I've ever done. [02:25] I need to get my LCD replaced in my older laptop :/ [02:30] I know someone who can do it ;-) [02:30] petaflot (~dave@85.218.65.182) joined ##slackware. [02:30] I guess you can wait until next year's SELF and I'll do it for free. [02:31] (because dammit, I *will* be there) [02:31] (unless I manage to knock up my wife again) ;-) [02:31] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) joined ##slackware. [02:32] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:33] hey! I guess sleeping didn't help me as much as I hoped it would... trying to get xmms2 to build, I get the following configure error: package glib-2.0 was not found in the config path [...] you should add the directory containing glib-2.0.pc. I dont' have that file anywhere on my system.. [02:33] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [02:34] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [02:35] You don't have glib2 package installed? [02:36] If not, then why not? [02:36] Did you intentionally make your system unusuable for a wide range of definitions for "usable" ? [02:36] multilib issue? [02:36] Good guess [02:39] rworkman: yes I do... I tried to make a minimal system for use on an embedded computer. I know I am missing a few things.. [02:39] Ah, then yeah, you'll need glib2 for sure :) [02:39] you were lack glibc earlier, now glib2, god knows what else :p [02:39] for embedded look at openwrt [02:40] I have glibc-2.9 glibc-solibs glibs-zoneinfo [02:40] sahko: uhu.. didn't know there were so many paages for glibc [02:40] here are they defined? [02:41] errm sorry paste failure [02:41] alisonken1home: I had voyge before, it's crap. I used openwrt years ago on wrt54g but I'm note I want it again [02:41] there arent, glibc contains the files of the other two as well [02:42] but in some minimal systems you can get by without it [02:42] sahko: can you tell me the name if the package I need? the only "glibc" package on the cd I dont' have is glibc-profile (which didn't change anything) and glibc-i18n [02:42] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-111-227.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:43] i dont recall a glibc-profile package [02:43] There is one [02:43] No need for it though [02:43] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-163-5.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:43] Cann0n (~jack@dialup-4.91.102.228.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [02:43] i dont know which package you need, it depends on what you're trying to do [02:44] sahko: compile xmms2 [02:44] Well, I suspect he has no interest in profiling on an embedded system :) [02:44] rworkman: what do you mean? [02:45] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [02:45] the hardware is an alix board (800MHz CPU, 256 [02:45] MB RAM, 1GB CF) [02:46] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:46] did you install glib2 already? [02:46] sahko: yes [02:46] and it still fails? [02:47] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [02:47] yes. it complains about a missing 'glib-2.0.pc' I would comlain as well.. it's nowhere to be ofund [02:49] I tried to search the packages for the corect file, but 'xz -l is not implemented yet' [02:49] try 'tar tvf' [02:50] you could visit slackwiki.org and read the article about minimal system to get some ideas [02:50] sahko: ok I'l do that. thx [02:56] glib-2.0 is the package version, not the files inside versions [02:57] Cann0n (~jack@dialup-4.91.102.228.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:57] alisonken1home: can you explain please? [02:57] The "glib-2.0" in htis case is how/what the configure script is looking for. [02:57] It does so with a call to pkg-config [02:57] hm now that i think of it i could write a usb with hybridiso to the slackwiki. somehow posting it there never crossed my mind til now [02:57] isohybrid* [02:57] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Quit: Usar Linux amacia o cabelo [02:58] IOW, "pkg-config --exists glib-2.0" will give exit code of 0 if $libdir/pkgconfig/glib-2.0.pc exists. [02:59] Well, "if it exists" isn't the full requirement, but it's enough for you to know righ tnow. [02:59] however, glib-2.0.pc lists the compile options for the files - like /lib directory that .so files are kept [02:59] exit status is obviously 1.... [02:59] alisonken1home: exactly, hence why pkg-config is useful :) [03:00] :) [03:00] Lots of Makefiles do this: CFLAGS+=$(pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0) LDFLAGS+=$(pkg-config --libs glib-2.0) [03:01] Action: petaflot can't mount the dvd through nfs anymore... :-@ [03:01] (well, not exactly that, but you get the idea) :) [03:03] Cann0n (~jack@dialup-4.91.103.31.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [03:04] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:09] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-144.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [03:13] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-232.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:20] stinky (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-jgedyjqatlceesrm) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:22] t87 (~t87@adsl-99-73-199-58.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:22] :O [03:22] channel dead? [03:23] i was wondering how i defragment my hard drive on xp [03:23] :( [03:27] t87: with a sledge hammer? [03:27] There is a built-in tool. [03:27] It just joined. [03:27] haha i was just kidding [03:27] i havent been in here forever [03:27] metaphorically speaking. [03:28] You're like Rip van Winkle. Similely speaking. [03:28] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:29] Action: rworkman should go to bed. I'm getting silly and unfunny. [03:33] i need to go to bed too. i read similely as smiley [03:33] :) [03:34] Action: petaflot actually got out of bed an hour ago. [03:35] i couldnt sleep, kept on thinking about i3 [03:37] projectchild (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-fpzboaatblrcbvlp) joined ##slackware. [03:40] Nick change: projectchild -> stinky [03:41] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:42] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:48] archcezar (1000@acvy180.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. 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[03:59] gaah i love freenode [04:00] rip lilo [04:00] petaflot: yes [04:01] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-232.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:01] Action: petaflot says f*** f*** f***. all packages installed for a minimal system as per http://slackwiki.org/Minimal_System but still no glib-2.0.pc [04:02] dustybin: then i3 must really be giving you some headaches [04:04] petaflot: its a excellent tiling / floating / tabbed window manager [04:04] written in C from scratch [04:04] active [04:05] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.255.213.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:06] t87 (t87@adsl-99-73-199-58.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [04:07] vajra (~vajra@cm-84.215.89.58.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [04:07] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-204-104.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:07] mornin [04:07] morning [04:07] how's things? [04:08] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [04:09] morning [04:09] hi [04:09] dustybin: I'll give it a look.. although I'm very hapy with fvwm [04:09] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [04:09] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [04:09] brb [04:09] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-204-104.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [04:10] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-204-104.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:11] rrh (~foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [04:13] sweet. I'll definitely give it a try when I've fixed the stuff I'm working on right now.. [04:15] does anybody know if I'm allowed to copy glib-2.0.pc from my gentoo to the slackware that's missing it? I tried lconfig after this but still no luck [04:15] me is more worried about other things that could be missing... 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[04:42] Graf_Ithaka: no specific problems with cups on slackware recently, but my printer who used to work perfectly 2 years ago is not recognized by newer cups versions [04:45] jhell (~89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) joined ##slackware. [04:45] hm I think I got to the root of the problem.. ACLs.. setacl fails, eventhough acl is installed and ACL support for ex4 in kernel.. I added mountoption acl in /etc/fstab probably its because of that.. brb [04:45] Graf_Ithaka (1000@unixboard/users/graf) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:50] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:50] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [04:51] vajra (~vajra@cm-84.215.89.58.getinternet.no) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:53] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.254) joined ##slackware. [04:53] Graf_Ithaka (~georg@unixboard/users/graf) joined ##slackware. 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[06:08] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-102-175.consolidated.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:09] http://www.illumos.org/ <- lol it's like Open OpenSolaris XD [06:12] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [06:14] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [06:15] Gah [06:15] Does anyone know how to make the synaptics driver behave in Xorg? It's like it's too sensitive and the pointer shakes even when my finger is stationary. [06:16] Unless I insert psmouse module with proto=imps option, yet that disables pretty much all touchpad functions, like side scrolling [06:18] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [06:18] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [06:19] rirombo: maybe you have to change some settings in synaptics.fdi [06:20] Ugh. Doesn't xorg.conf override the hal policies? [06:21] Also, I'm using rworkman's Xorg 1.8.2, which I believe doesn't use hal any more in favor of udev [06:21] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) joined ##slackware. [06:25] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-163-5.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [06:28] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [06:28] pattakosn (~pattakosn@ppp079166116115.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:28] pattakosn (~pattakosn@ppp079166116115.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Client Quit [06:29] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:29] Graf_Ithaka (1000@unixboard/users/graf) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:31] rirombo: the synaptics driver worked fine for me.. make sure you are using it.. also there is gsynaptics for settings iirc [06:31] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [06:33] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [06:33] snL20: Hrmm... I suppose I need to make sure that synaptics driver is in fact used [06:35] rrh (~foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [06:36] rirombo: should be in /var/log/ [06:37] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-179-60.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:37] oxiredo_ro (~dumped@89.123.161.70) joined ##slackware. [06:37] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-8-86.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:38] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:40] petaflot (~dave@85.218.65.182) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:40] Apparently the synaptics driver is unloaded during X startup, since X couldn't communicate with it :\ [06:42] rrh (~foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [06:42] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:46] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-8-86.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [06:46] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:48] petaflot (~dave@85.218.65.182) joined ##slackware. [06:49] ffelix (phelix@ditto.arpa.org) joined ##slackware. [06:54] Delahunt (~robert@fd126-063.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [06:57] flnx (~fidel@16-91-dsl.ipact.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:58] Seriously, this should not be this difficult :\ I mean, the laptop came with Ubuntu, surely they would have noticed problems? Or could the synaptics driver actually introduced bugs since then? [06:58] it has changed, iirc [06:59] i think they streamlined sensitivity settings, but I don't recall where or how [07:01] what synaptics driver is unloaded, x or kernel? [07:02] for the x driver to find a synaptics touchpad it has to be detected by the kernel as a SynPS/2 device [07:03] "PS/2 Synaptics Touchpad" is not enough [07:03] pprkut: X, psmouse kernel module is still loaded [07:03] [07:04] so what does dmesg say. As what was it detected? [07:05] Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1, fw: 7.0, id: 0x1c0b1, caps: 0xd04711/0xa00000/0x20000 [07:05] input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input13 [07:05] ok, that looks good [07:05] can you pastebin the xorg log? [07:05] One second [07:09] ashe (~ashe@125.163.35.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:09] http://pastebin.com/Gb0spmaM [07:09] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [07:11] ashe (~ashe@125.166.169.67) joined ##slackware. [07:12] Roin (~florian@p5B2BF8DC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:12] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-134.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [07:14] hmm, very weird [07:15] Indeed.. [07:15] I just noticed that it seems to first find the touchpad, then complain about not finding it [07:16] I wonder if it is some sort of conflict between /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf and /etc/X11/xorg.conf :\ [07:16] well, "synaptics" seems to detect the touchpad. The errors come from evdev [07:16] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) joined ##slackware. [07:17] probably. I haven't tried xorg-1.8 yet [07:17] you can try asking rworkman if he knows something about that [07:18] also, googling the errors might give you some hints [07:18] yeah, i've been doing that all night. I'm not the only one having problems, but there doesn't seem to be any solutions that work for everyone :\ [07:19] Thank you for looking at it :) [07:22] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-8-86.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:22] no problem :) [07:23] rirombo: have you read this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=788414 ? [07:25] moti (moti@devio.us) joined ##slackware. [07:25] quite a bit over at the arch forums / wiki [07:26] pprkut: I have not, looks promising! Thanks! [07:28] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7DF21.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [07:31] christian (~christian@188.46.204.165) joined ##slackware. [07:33] Well, I think that at least made it so that I'm actually using synaptics driver now :D [07:33] Thanks a lot. It seems like my google fu is not as high as yours :( [07:33] Will be reading more arch forums, though [07:34] hehe [07:34] idle` (~idle@2a01:e35:2f43:4b00:20d:f0ff:fe56:8f4) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:34] moti (moti@devio.us) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [07:35] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-8-86.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [07:46] rirombo (~user@h86.181.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:48] flnx (fidel@16-91-dsl.ipact.nl) left ##slackware. [07:48] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. 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[09:08] didn't you see? he said "help" [09:09] how do I get "out" -- everything works fine but I can't get outside of the LAN [09:09] Hard to help without knowing the problem :-) [09:10] I think it isn"t connecting with DNS [09:10] Can you ping an IP outside the LAN? [09:11] nope - but can ping my server from my lappy and my lappy from my server [09:12] What about the gateway - can you ping that? [09:12] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.249) joined ##slackware. [09:12] gateway, DNS and DHCP are all supposed to be 192.168.0.1 and I can ping that [09:14] t0f (1000@dialup-4.238.250.167.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [09:14] sacarasc (sacarasc@xmms2/bitch/sacarasc) joined ##slackware. [09:14] is syslog telling me to install an 80-wire cable on my dvd-rw? [09:15] If you can't ping a remote IP then DNS isn't the problem, or the only problem [09:15] Aug 7 06:13:02 spinup kernel: hda: host side 80-wire cable detection failed, limiting max speed to UDMA33 [09:15] Is Slackware 64 bit 32 bit compatible like Slamd64 was? [09:15] not by default [09:15] inconnu: do you have nameservers in your /etc/resolv.conf ? [09:16] How would I make it so? [09:16] wobbles - wait a sec whilst I bring my lappy over - I'm on eth broadband right now [09:16] sacarasc, http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib [09:16] Thanks. [09:17] Scuzz - yes - my broadband plus I added 192.168.0.1 for tthe wifi [09:20] wobbles - I just tried pinging my server from my lappy with wifi - sez "NetWork Unreachable" [09:20] or would that just cause underruns? [09:23] inconnu: From the bottom - is your wireless interface up and running? iwconfig ? [09:23] I just bought the lappy and server used and they have windoze installed and I can"t zap windoze until the limitedd guarantee expires [09:23] i'll be back later [09:23] t0f (1000@dialup-4.238.250.167.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Quit: t0f [09:24] wobbles - wlan0 is up and gives ma an LANIP and iwconfig looks preefect [09:25] perfectly [09:26] gnoel (~gsan@cpe-66-65-134-160.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:26] wobbles - if I set up an Ad-Hoc - lappy-->server - that works just fine [09:27] But laptop to desktop = no network? What about the other way round [09:28] wobbles - yes - works both ways - I can ssh and ftp either way [09:28] gnoel (~gsan@cpe-66-65-134-160.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:28] wobbles - With the Ad-Hoc that is [09:29] Sorry, have to go; hope someone else can help more [09:29] TNX NEWAY [09:29] :-) [09:29] wobbles (huntsman@C-61-68-164-96.bur.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). 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[10:12] skycrash: yes [10:13] pprkut, i've got "scriptengine python module canot by loaded" [10:13] when trying to use some widgets [10:13] so i've found using google [10:13] that i have to install python-kdebase4 in order to get rid of that error [10:14] pprkut: hmm, for me is not working fine, i see trayicon, but when try open New devices, nothing happens [10:14] skycrash: did you start rc.bluetooth? [10:14] pprkut: yes [10:15] pprkut: i need configure anything in /etc/bluetooth/main.conf ? [10:15] cr3: the plasma python stuff is in kdebase-workspace [10:15] skycrash: not that I know of. Things *just work*(tm) here [10:16] skycrash: is your bluetooth device up and running? [10:16] pprkut: yes.. [10:16] I mean, hci0, ot whatever it's called [10:17] pprkut: when i do hcitool scan, show me my devices [10:17] hmm, ok [10:17] than it's probably blueman specific. I can't help you there since I use kbluetooth [10:17] i forgot that there is also slackpkg apart from sbopkg [10:19] pprkut, ive got it installed but i''ll try to reinstall it [10:20] pprkut, how do i find out what other python stuff i should have installed in case i accidentally removed it? [10:21] vinegaroon (~sam@203-184-20-213.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [10:23] plee (~kurt@static243-165-183.mimer.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:23] MrJackson (~MrJackson@cpe-24-94-41-123.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:24] plee (~kurt@static243-165-183.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [10:25] skycrash (~sky@189.58.170.145.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:26] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [10:28] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. 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[12:54] hi! how do I replace only the first occurence using sed? I would like to replace all before the first occurence of '0'. sed 's/.*0//' takes me to the last occurence... [12:55] s/(.)(*0)/\2/g # or so [12:56] (sed -r btw, i don't bother with basic regex) [12:56] trhodes: you mean that regex you wrote is not "standard" regex? [12:56] oh wait, hmm [12:56] does anyone know how to make g++ less strict? [12:56] i doubt that does what you want [12:57] petaflot (~dave@144.85.45.229) joined ##slackware. [12:58] josteint, the .* is inherently greedy, so that's not going to work unless you can match more specifically [13:02] perhaps "s/(^.+)(0.+)/\2/g" maybe [13:03] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-71-127-17-34.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:03] or "s/[^0]*\(.*\)/\2/g" [13:03] yeah, excluding zero is also good [13:04] why exclude 0? [13:04] oops s/[^0]*\(.*\)/\1/g of course. [13:05] well, you don't want to match the first occurence of zero [13:06] .* does [13:06] i wish there were just some simple feature just adding a number for the nth occurence, e.g. '1/s/.*0//' [13:06] trhodes: oh sorry. of course [13:06] a feature i'd like is character class exclusions [13:07] but then again, i don't know pcre's, they're a whole lot more powerful [13:07] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [13:07] trhodes: read "mastering regular expressions" by J Friedl ? [13:08] nope [13:08] relatively heavy going... but worth it. [13:08] yeah, i've seen summaries / previews... looks quite good [13:09] josteint, http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html#uh-8 [13:09] instead of /g use a /[0-9] occurence, perhaps (not a feature I've used) [13:11] jhw (~jhw@p548D6D0B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:22] josteint, also, you could assemble classes like [[:blank:][:alpha:][1-9]] to try and match everything but zero [13:22] yes, I'm not sure if it's better to use the slackbuild or just 'make install' + installpkg [13:22] I want to keep py2.6 and py2.7, maybe py3.2 too [13:22] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-135-158.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:22] trhodes: it should be possible to make a working regex, but I am looking for a short simple and easy to read regex [13:23] then the best way is to slot python, and change the symlinks to the python binary [13:23] trhodes: simply a "replace all chars from start to first occurence of the character 0" [13:23] josteint, sometimes short isn't correct :) [13:23] darkrho, see how the python3 slackbuild handles it: http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/13.1/development/python3/python3.SlackBuild [13:24] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.181) joined ##slackware. [13:24] trhodes: surely for my GF! LOL [13:24] thrice`, that will help, thanks [13:24] br00tal (~br00tal@c-66-41-95-104.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:24] sure ;) [13:25] Should I apply the set_pre_input_hook patch? [13:25] no clue, I haven't touched python 2.7. it's supposed to be quite nasty [13:26] br00tal (~br00tal@c-66-41-95-104.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:28] josteint, lol [13:28] josteint, echo -e 'asdf .* asdf0_asdf .* asdf0' | sed -r 's/(^.+)(0.+)/\2/g' # ==> "0_asdf .* asdf0" seems to behave as I expect [13:29] ie, the 0 is itself greedier than .+ [13:29] yeah, size really DOES matter haha :D [13:30] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [13:30] lol (^.+) XD [13:30] look wired [13:30] haha [13:30] jhw (~jhw@p548D6D0B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:31] what I actually want is to keep everything betweem html a tag, like this example: This is a name of a "game" [13:31] petaflot (~dave@144.85.45.229) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [13:32] josteint, http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2009/11/parsing-html-the-cthulhu-way.html [13:32] you can't throw regexes at arbitrary html :P [13:34] Nick change: BadAtom -> lerppu [13:35] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [13:36] Nick change: lerppu -> BadAtom [13:36] that stack overflow user really got messed up by using regex on html hehe [13:37] haha yeah :P [13:37] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:38] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [13:38] funny page :P [13:41] edman007 (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:43] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@97-127-208-135.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:44] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [13:46] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: jogo [13:46] oxiredo_ro (~dumped@89.123.161.70) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:46] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.181) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [13:50] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:50] terry childs gets 4 years [13:50] who ? [13:51] that sf admin who wouldn't turn over passwords [13:51] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Childs [13:51] sourceforge ? [13:51] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@unaffiliated/sigmavirus24) joined ##slackware. [13:51] SigmaVirus24 (WhoAmI@unaffiliated/sigmavirus24) left ##slackware. [13:51] no, city of sanfrancisco [13:51] sourceforge bay area [13:51] oh, IRL [13:52] yeah [13:52] sorry, not caring :P [13:52] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7B80F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [13:52] it was a neat story [13:52] apparently refusing to turn over the passwords was considered a denial of service [13:53] great! so.. what did he DO [13:53] josteint (~josteint@cm-84.215.34.14.getinternet.no) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:53] if him not divluging passwords cost them $900K, they are all idiots. oh wait, they're bureaucrats. [13:54] Action: adaptr prepares to hit his boss on monday with a 900K pay raise - it's either that or I walk - with my passwords! [13:54] edman007 (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [13:56] i have some problema when I try to run the SARG, it appear a message saying that the lib libXpm is not present, sorry for my bad english [13:56] he said in perfect English [13:56] we're not buying it! [13:56] lol [13:57] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [13:57] someone is there a solution? [13:57] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-9-15.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [13:57] alkos333 (~alkos333@68-30-82-172.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [13:57] It's not just that Childs refused to divulge the passwords to the systems he controlled. He had seized control of a bunch of other systems and changed their passwords. [13:57] I presume you' [13:58] You press you to me? [13:58] slackware doesn't do automatic dependencies with its packages, see what package contains that library and install it [13:58] re talking about the Squid Analysis Report Generator, wilson_pereira ? [13:58] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-41.viapori.fi) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [13:58] yes adaptr [13:59] CathyInBlue, i'm sure he wasn't a saint, but to inflate it to a denial of service when it never was is a farce [13:59] the slackbuild/README for SARG will tell you what you need. any dependencies that are already present in a full slackware install will NOT be mentioned. this is spceifically to punish people who don't do a full install. [13:59] Skywise: Slackware CAN do dependency analysis, but that's left for third party utilities like slackpack and slapt-get. Package management and dependency management are separate tasks. [13:59] CathyInBlue: the second could be construed as criminal behaviour. the first demonstrably is not. it's just a bunch of stupid politicians with their heads in their asses - as usual. [13:59] adaptr: well not really punish. But if you want to have a slimmed down instal, you are supposed to know what you are doing and how to resolve any issues deriving from. [14:00] CathyInBlue, i don't consider them part of slackware, you could run yum and apt-get if you wanted to [14:00] I downloaded a package from sourceforge.. something like sarg-2.0.7.tgz... I just type installpkg sarg [14:00] BP{k}: I was going for dramatic effect! [14:00] adaptr: did you wear a cape? [14:00] yeah, i thought the ruffles were excessive tho [14:00] I selected an organ patch on my keyboard [14:00] Action: adaptr muahahahs [14:01] TADADAAAAAAA..... tadadadadaaaaaadah [14:01] slackpkg install sarg don't work [14:01] wilson_pereira: did anybody claim it would ? silly [14:01] wilson_pereira: just because something is a tgz (ie a gzipped tarball) does not mean it's a slackware package. [14:02] BP{k}: yes it is! it must be! I vote we force everybody who creates a tgz to make it slackpackageable [14:02] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:02] we should patch tar too [14:02] thats why i like to install from source, by the time you get it to compile, you gotta have all the dependencies installed [14:02] sorry I didn't know [14:02] it should ask you "do you want to create a slackpckg ?" and the default must be Yes! [14:03] I'm having a Xorg crash using nvidia 256.44 driver on slacware64-current: http://pastebin.com/waWSxsRU [14:03] hmm looking at SARG. who ever made the slackware package .. doesn't know shit all about naming conventions. [14:03] sarg-2.0.8-slackware10.1-i386-1.tgz <-- BEHOLD teh FAIL! [14:04] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [14:04] is there someway to download only the lib libXpm.so.4 that is not present? [14:05] bound to be [14:05] wilson_pereira: just install libXpm. [14:05] what they're saying is you can prolly find it on your install cd [14:05] how can I do that BP? [14:06] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.214) joined ##slackware. [14:06] wilson_pereira: installpkg(8), also you might want to read up on the good slackbook, chapter 18 which deals with slackware package management. [14:07] ok, thanks [14:08] wilson_pereira: as for where you can /find/ the package. Any official mirror should have it in the x/ directory (or your install media) [14:08] ok BP, thanks [14:08] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-170-255.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [14:09] Skywise: whatever happened with Hans Reiser ? was he convicted ? whut ? [14:09] Actually, Slackpack is in /extra last I checked, but the point is that slackpack and slapt-get work with the Slackware package manager, while urpmi and yum and apt and dpkg are all separate system. [14:09] systems* [14:09] you seem to be all up in the news [14:10] adaptr: yes he was. he's currently serving time afaik [14:10] adaptr, yeah he's in jail and showed where the body was buried [14:10] was there conclusive evidence in the end ? [14:10] oh, that'd be conclusive [14:10] Action: adaptr is not up in teh newz [14:11] i just have rss feeds i browse [14:11] is it wrong of me to be curious how horrible his wife was ? [14:11] no, she was rather horrible [14:11] I'm not saying it's ever a sufficient reason - he could have left [14:11] mail order bride from russia basically [14:11] ouch [14:11] classic nerd mistake [14:12] yes .. everyone knows they are better from china ;) [14:12] it's NEVER over when they say "pay one time"! 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[14:31] trtt\ [14:31] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:31] hello? [14:31] am o loggedin? [14:31] am i logged in? [14:31] nope [14:32] are you sure? [14:32] yup [14:32] :D [14:32] so can you invite me please? [14:33] wow [14:33] ya wow [14:33] nope, I am not allowed to invite strangers [14:34] not even if they bring candy ? [14:34] lolz [14:34] come on.. everybody likes candy! [14:34] specialy those with candy. my mom told me they only want butt sex :( [14:34] what if I want both ? [14:34] maybe he needs to type his password in [14:34] double no [14:35] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:38] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:48] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [14:52] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:52] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. 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[15:03] last I checked, /var/log will be there, but /var/adm may not always be a link to /var/log [15:03] these lib are not in slackware. i've already checked it. this is the webpage http://xmlrpc-epi.sourceforge.net/ [15:03] just a thought [15:03] Oc: Find the FILENAME.LIST file (or some such file) and grep it. [15:04] OclkdMan: see if it's in slackbuilds.org - if it is, then it's not part of official slackware [15:04] debian for example has a pkg called libxmlrpc-epi-dev [15:04] it isn't in slackbuilds [15:04] slackware doesn't separate -dev packages [15:05] ..i know... [15:06] MrJackson (~MrJackson@cpe-24-94-41-123.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:07] found it http://scxd.info/pub/slackbuilds/lib/xml-rpc.SlackBuild [15:08] interesting - slavic site? [15:08] ah - polish [15:09] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.214) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:09] xmlrpc-c != xmlrpc-epi [15:11] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [15:11] MrJackson (~MrJackson@cpe-24-94-41-123.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:13] that particular slackbuild could use some cleanups to be 64-bit clean as well [15:13] petaflot (~dave@lsn-boi-catv-c116-p128.vtx.ch) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:14] dear me :p [15:14] and correct - xmlrpc-c not the same as xmlrpc-epi - -epi looks to be a proprietary versoin that's being made available [15:14] might want to check the license on it as well. the only optional code they give is php [15:15] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [15:15] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@dynamic-adsl-78-12-191-253.clienti.tiscali.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:16] Shalomar (~Sam@cpe-24-93-139-177.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:16] alisonken1home: http://bugs.scxd.info/ [15:16] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) left irc: Client Quit [15:18] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [15:18] sahko: ? [15:19] I was just commenting on the slackbuild - not really interested in a c-api to xml right now [15:19] to report the issues you found. re: not 64bit clean [15:19] i know it was kind of a joke :p [15:20] by 64-bit clean, I was just noting that ARCH is coded as ARCH=i686 rather than doing the ARCH check routines [15:21] hadn't planned on creating an account on their bugzilla just for that either [15:21] ok, i thought you cared [15:22] caring would indicate I might either a) have an interest in that project or b) have time to go to a site that's not paying attention to proper slackbuild templates :) [15:23] i know, im just messin with you :p [15:23] and right now b) is very much an issue [15:23] kym_keive (1000@189.96.12.74) joined ##slackware. [15:24] :) [15:24] BP{k}: quick q: is /var/adm always going to link to /var/log ? [15:24] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:25] or is that a pat question? [15:25] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2010-08-06 12:03 /var/adm -> log [15:25] ? [15:25] alisonken1home: pat question but yes. [15:25] k [15:25] thrice`: yep [15:25] oops, mis-read [15:25] alisonken1home: hier(7) gives you the answer ;) [15:26] ah - keep forgetting about man hier [15:26] thanks [15:27] np. :) [15:28] and it doesn't help I keep getting dislexic and typing "man heir" :) [15:29] haha [15:30] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:41] hello, anyone could help me setting up a printer on slack 13.1? [15:41] chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.cups && /etc/rc.d/rc.cups start [15:42] point your webbrowser to http://localhost:631 and follow the Administration->Add Printer option [15:42] good. I need to install libxml2 bindings for my custom python 2.7 installation :-/ [15:42] im tring to get the hplilp to work... [15:44] what error are you getting? 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[15:49] ok thanks [15:49] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-433996.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [15:49] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-102-175.consolidated.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:49] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:50] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [15:50] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [15:50] anyone know of a utility to scan pdfs for malicous urls? [15:50] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-433996.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:50] jonsmith1982 (~jon@89.241.11.11) joined ##slackware. [15:51] Skywise, perhaps clamAV? [15:51] RIP panzer :| [15:51] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:51] although that's antivirus... malicious files can be something else [15:52] shonudo, yeah, mimedefang doesn't really do it either [15:52] don't know what to recommend [15:52] maybe someone else has come across something you can use [15:52] right now i just strip pdfs as an attachment unless they're in a container [15:53] pdfs have become such a security hole lately [15:53] PDFs are ubiquitous as well [15:53] thus the dilemna [15:53] a typical attachment item [15:53] yup [15:53] and people get confused about putting files in a zip, rar or tar file [15:54] printer working, just one last question, does start up with my system or do i heve to load it every time? [15:54] yeah, you're not going to get people to rethink things -- if PDFs are easy, they'll make PDFs [15:55] kym_keive, iirc, cups should start with the system; once set up it should take [15:56] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-433996.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:57] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:57] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-420423.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:58] j0z (unix@201.47.29.229.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:58] j0z (unix@201.47.29.229.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [15:58] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [16:00] kym_keive: if you did the "chmd +x /etc/rc.d/rc.cups" as root like I posted earlier, it will start on reboot [16:00] oh, big thanks [16:01] :-) [16:01] darkrho (~rolando@190.107.43.180) joined ##slackware. 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[17:50] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [17:50] anyone know what package gdk-pixbuf library is contained in? [17:50] i think its a seperate package [17:51] alkos333 (~alkos333@68-30-82-172.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:51] That's what i though too [17:51] Nythain (~rune@65.28.0.7) joined ##slackware. [17:51] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/libraries/gdk-pixbuf/ [17:51] Nythain (rune@65.28.0.7) left ##slackware. [17:54] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [17:55] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-163-5.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:55] Interesting. I haven't even install the SBo package and i have 2.20.1 installed [17:56] probably gsb [17:56] jikjtzzf (~edud@94.229.77.218) joined ##slackware. [17:57] Don't have installed either. [17:57] do you use slapt-get? [17:58] nope [17:58] interesting [17:58] ghosts [17:59] jg71 (~edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:59] I have updated my glib2, gtk+2, atk, and pango [17:59] and it's got to be in one of those [18:01] 13.1 has 2.18.9 on it default [18:01] i'm going to assume it's in the gtk package [18:01] alkos333 (~alkos333@68-30-82-172.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [18:02] yeah gtk+2 has some pixbuf references [18:03] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-420423.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:03] gdk-pixbuf is in gtk+2 "grep gdk-pixfub /var/log/packages/*" ftw :) [18:04] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [18:04] anyone with suddenlink broadband here? [18:05] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-420423.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:05] jg71 (~edud@unaffiliated/jg71) joined ##slackware. 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[20:58] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:05] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.30.79.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:07] evilserver382 (~evilserve@212.183.140.2) joined ##slackware. [21:15] D1ver (~chatzilla@ppp121-44-124-239.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [21:15] GrooveDroid (default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:15] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:15] Hello? [21:16] Hallo. [21:16] hi there [21:16] :D [21:16] hi :) [21:16] Hi-dee-ho!! [21:16] testing out Seamonkey hehe [21:17] anyone use handlers in firefox? [21:17] Handlers? [21:17] handlers? [21:17] ie telnet:// ssh:// [21:17] ruben23 (~ITadmin@125.212.40.2) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:17] http [21:18] trying to figure out if i can keep it from opening new tabs everytime I click a telnet or ssh link [21:18] http i guess? [21:18] gets annoying with multiple blank tabs open [21:18] jeez didnt know you could ssh link [21:19] Yea i didnt know firefox could do that.. [21:19] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [21:19] my firefox doesnt support ssh or telnet.. you need an addon? [21:19] you have to create a script and then enable some options in about config [21:19] not to hard [21:20] fix it if its not too hard then [21:20] if using gnome you have to add a couple gconf entries too [21:20] the options have nothing to do with the new tab opening :P [21:20] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] juice, I dont have a tab opening on mine [21:21] that't cause you don't have a handler set for them [21:21] err [21:21] that's [21:21] anyways good luck [21:22] juice: wonder if there's something one can change in about:config? [21:22] now google will know where you SSH to [21:22] that's what I was hoping but having luck finding it [21:23] but not [21:23] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.247.252) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:25] Alright MLanden could you tell me what's up next after learning how to compile the kernel? :) I can do that now, and I can make my own Linux following the LFS guide. [21:25] What is the usual next step to learn more? [21:26] lfjob: install slackware? :P ... [21:26] Done that already. [21:26] I want to learn the deeper aspect of it. [21:26] yeah look.. i dont know , LFS following the guide [21:26] use that system then [21:26] Huh? [21:26] madbear, do you know how to write kernel hacks? [21:27] thats heavy shit man :P [21:27] ive done LFS, installed X and all i neede [21:27] lfjob: hmm...you compiled programs,compiled kernel,settine up network...guess hardware manipulation of some sort.. [21:27] How long did it take you to get through LFS? [21:27] needed, but without some updating the system gets old [21:27] ifjob: do you know and understand what happens when your computer boots up and everything that happens up untill you get a login prompt? [21:27] s/settine/set [21:28] D1ver, eternity, you are never truly done with it. [21:28] hehe [21:28] D1ver, I have to start over because tehre is always something you miss out, or want to edit, or etc. [21:28] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol [21:28] I'd love to try it one day when i get some time.. [21:28] if you know LFS then you know alot imo [21:28] this talks about it but about as much as you get [21:28] WildWizard, in some aspect, yes, I understand toolchain, which was a big step and something ahead of a lot of people. [21:28] madbear, never, I never settle. [21:29] toolchain refers to building a system compiler-libs-kernel [21:29] Yep. [21:29] lfjob: good question is what do you wish to know further? [21:29] WildWizard, what you are describing, I know very little of it, just an idea. [21:29] lfjob: get one of these heavy books then [21:29] MLanden, I wish to learn the deeper aspect of it. Let me see if I can take a question here. I want to write kernels patches. [21:30] boot proccess and toolchain are two different things [21:30] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-170-255.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [21:30] WildWizard, sorry, you are correct. :) [21:30] i dont know your level in operating systems, i can reading on OS [21:30] recommend [21:30] It's just never enough. Hold on. [21:32] lfjob: ok...then yes,hardware..plenty of patches to learn from...'specially with 2.6.35 and what will soon be 2.6.36 in mainline..good luck..;) [21:32] lol [21:32] Where do I start? ;_; [21:33] evilserver382 (~evilserve@212.183.140.2) left irc: Quit: server downtime [21:33] D1ver (~chatzilla@ppp121-44-124-239.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.6/20100721141910] [21:33] start with OS [21:33] learn how all that crazy shit works.. and then look up the linux specifics [21:33] Hm? OS? [21:33] operating systems [21:34] Have you guys ever read Godel Escher Bach? [21:34] what? :P [21:34] GEB, I was recommended it many months ago, great book for compsci students like myself, but hard to understand. Was wondering if you guys wanna discuss it. [21:34] madbear, how good is your maf? :D [21:34] it had a neat cover, is all i know [21:34] OS : processes, memory , paging, scheduling and so on [21:35] system call interface, to [21:35] *too [21:35] trhodes, <3 [21:35] i have not [21:35] i have to look that up [21:36] I haven't met very many people, save the PhD computer science folks who read the book. [21:36] It's difficult to read and understand but it talks a lot of very deep philosophical aspect and theoretical part of computing and math. [21:36] This is chapter 4 intro: "IN CHAPTER II, we saw how meaning-at least in the relatively simple context of formal systems-arises when there is an isomorphism between rule-governed symbols, and things in the real world." [21:36] haha, "the art of computer programming" is classic for how difficult it is [21:36] Some of the words I have never seen! [21:37] trhodes, Donald Knuth is the Einstein of Computer Science. [21:37] That's the stuff I want to read (and ultimately collect his books when I work). [21:37] ahhh..the quest for Electric Sleep..;) [21:38] Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? x) [21:38] I'm going to be, if I am not an idiot, taking Honor courses (calc, physics, compsci) for undergraduate level alone and I should understand these stuff soon. [21:39] I want to be able to write kernels, from grounds up, talk about kernel architecture, ponder against Linus why his is better than Taneubaum's, etc. [21:39] lol...yeah,lfjob...Philip K. Dick's novel [21:39] MLanden, did you read it? [21:40] lfjob: great ideas comes from .. not going to school .. like einstein [21:40] lfjob: not in quite awhile [21:40] madbear, Einstein got his PhD. :| [21:40] He dropped out of school too, like me, but eventually went back, like me. [21:40] Action: lfjob dances. [21:40] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:41] lfjob: jeez.. didnt know, not just like that honor doctor stuff you can get then? [21:41] as he was the worst student in his class [21:42] artaud (~Artaud@187.59.125.101) joined ##slackware. [21:42] artaud (~Artaud@187.59.125.101) left irc: Changing host [21:42] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [21:45] c0cac00l (1000@95.172.169.142) joined ##slackware. [21:45] madbear, he wasn't the worst, he was a B / C student. [21:45] Hi [21:45] Which isn't bad for his time, since schooling at that time were extremely hard. [21:45] c0cac00l, hi hi. [21:45] can anyone help me install the ethercap on my slackware 13.1? i'm having some trouble with java :\ [21:46] etherpad * [21:46] lfjob: ive read some about him [21:46] the only student who didnt get a job at the school or something like that [21:46] madbear, but the thing is, when they did autopsy on him, his brain was wired differently. [21:46] not as good as ppl think [21:46] He was a genius. [21:46] lfjob: no. [21:47] He is a genius because he revolutionize the physics field itself. The very foundation was shaken by him. Plasma, laser, quantum computing, is all because of him. [21:47] lfjob: well yes but...its lies. You red this on some yahoo answers? [21:47] Relativity (general and special), photoelectric effect (I believe that was his first dissertation), motion, mass-energy, field theories (Einstein, Unified), etc were by him. [21:47] No. [21:48] I'm a computer science student, we learn about physics (I gotta take up to 4-6 classes of physics). [21:48] This stuff is brought up many times. [21:48] Now we are up to string theory (and trying to combine fields into the ToE) in this field because of this man. [21:48] No doubt but [21:49] his brain was ordinary, he was a lousy studnet who didnt go to class... [21:49] Most scientists, like 95% will never be anywhere as close to Einstein in terms of revolutionizing an entire field. [21:49] He got his doctorates. [21:49] lol [21:49] That speaks volumes. [21:49] all PhDs have non normal brains? [21:49] Trust me, I hate school more than anything, but for some things, you have to admit its use, especially when it comes to academic. [21:50] madbear, no, I already said - Most scientists, like 95% will never be anywhere as close to Einstein in terms of revolutionizing an entire field. [21:50] Mmost scientists have their PhD and still can't come anywhere close to Einstein. [21:50] OFC, but i still say einstein had a normal brain, ive read 3 books about him and seen like 10 documentaries [21:50] I plan to get mine, and I know I'll never be anywhere close to Linus or his professor Tenembaum let alone Einstein or Donald. [21:50] Dunno, that makes Einstein even more extraordinary. [21:51] he was not that great.. he got help with the math [21:51] he couldnt figure that out by himself and so on [21:51] yeah, math-wise he got a lot of input from others [21:51] but the ideas was brilliant [21:51] in fact, the mathematicians are big heros in relativity, too [21:51] and still they are not hard to understand [21:52] the earth dont move right? well it does but we cant say [21:52] ok i understand what he understood [21:52] :P [21:53] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488F17A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:56] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@bl7-144-220.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: [21:56] Wait. [21:56] Math is not hard to understand? D: [21:56] goj (~goj@p4FE6BBEB.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:56] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:56] see that VirtualBox(from their site) just updates to 3.2.8 this weekend [21:56] lfjob: my brain is like moshed? potato after this summer [21:56] s/updates/updated [21:57] lfjob: will you be here tommorow ? i need help with some CS-math stuff :P [21:57] if math isnt so hard to understand then why did it take humanity soooo long to understand some things we call simple truths today that we take for grantid? [21:57] madbear, tomorrow is Sunday, depends on whether or not my SO keeps me. [21:57] KaMii, yeah, I know, math is hard. D: [21:58] its really hard [21:58] and i would say we understand very little [21:58] math yes but understanding physics is not the same as doing the math [21:58] math wasn't the problem, it was culture [21:59] Skywise, what do you mean? [21:59] einsteins teacher told him: there is nothing more to discover in physics [21:59] we had trig before jesus, but calc didn't come until after the dark ages [21:59] Skywise, hm... [21:59] Some of the concepts in calculus ARE hard to understand though. [21:59] its just infinite slices [22:00] Infinite slices? You mean zooming in? [22:00] have you had calc yet? [22:00] i thought infinity is highly controversial [22:00] no, its very sound mathematical concept [22:00] all i know is, we have a ton of theorys, and a theory is not fact [22:00] rheault (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:00] actually, theory is all we have [22:01] it's as good as it gets [22:01] why do my math teacher go on and on about this fucking infinity, i dont get it!! [22:01] a theory is an attempt at a definition and a law is observation [22:01] to infinitry! and beyond! [22:01] hell yeah [22:01] a law is a theory, pretty much [22:01] Action: KaMii cant even add, and thats the truth [22:01] no no. Scientific theory means a collection of facts. [22:01] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory [22:01] the theory is the explanation of those facts [22:01] It's not the same as scientific laws but it is basically "laws" that can change. [22:01] the theory of reletivity may be false [22:01] basically what happens is that when numbers get very large theres a point where getting larger doesn't make any differnce [22:01] Yes. trhodes yyep. [22:02] and thats essentially infinity [22:02] KaMii, doubt it, we have developed lasers from Einstein's theory of relativity. [22:02] laws don't change, thats why they're laws [22:02] Did you guys know 30% or so of US GDP is because of quantum science? [22:02] they might be refined or improved [22:02] but they're supposed to be the same [22:02] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [22:02] just becaues we learned from einsteins theorys and have progressed from it does not make it law [22:03] i thought it was crack lfjob [22:03] well that would be a gross estimation of the impact on electronics [22:03] its why its still call a THEORY not a LAW [22:03] We have Newtons Law, and Einsteins Theory [22:03] so what is a law ? [22:03] that's a theory, too [22:03] no, but theres the ideal gas law and others [22:04] laws essentially make predictions [22:04] and theories are supposed to [22:04] Skywise, not yet but I am learning about it with Dummies, but the course I will be taking are all honor level. [22:04] theories try to describe why its happening, laws don't [22:04] is this one of those late night discussion you dont want to miss? [22:04] theories are unproven and still being researched for truth in their claims to be universal [22:04] Jennifur (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:05] theories are yet disproven [22:05] lfjob, then the points i'm making won't really make sense to you yet [22:05] hypotheses are unproven [22:05] Skywise, oh alright,. [22:05] madbear, depends, are you a compsci student? [22:05] yes newton was wrong [22:05] lfjob: i am yes [22:05] wharncliffe (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [22:05] madbear, oh you should be fine then, not a big dela. [22:06] fun about newton, this girl who was a slut with to much of spare time helped him [22:06] with the ^2 [22:06] lfjob, this is a clumsy explanation and don't repeat it as any test answer, but calculus literally means to count pebbles [22:06] slackytude|evil (~slacky@drms-4d0005d2.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:07] Skywise, hm I see. [22:07] Ugh I hate that term slut. [22:07] No girls are sluts. [22:07] and the math was designed to figure out volumes by dividing it and then adding the slices together for the whole [22:07] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:07] lfjob: i cant express myself in english :P [22:07] like figuring out the volume of a bath tub, by filling it with pebbles and counting the pebbles [22:08] this girl helped newton, she had alot of sex even though she was married? [22:08] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) left irc: Quit: velusip [22:08] sex with other men.. but thats just like einstein :P [22:08] madbear, ..... [22:08] well sex, not men i guess [22:08] Moving on. [22:08] ok i will only read from now on, im done. [22:09] how do you pervs go from calculus to sex? [22:09] why do women dislike sex so much [22:09] Nick change: lfjob -> miss_riss [22:09] my bad KaMii [22:09] Skywise: you know nothing about women [22:09] or about history on sex [22:09] -_- Moving on. This is always going to turn bad. [22:10] i didn't know there was one [22:10] Action: KaMii refers Skywise to my mamma, shes a sex therapist and will tell you a lot you dont know [22:10] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [22:10] nah [22:10] i don't believe in psychology [22:10] like how it was women who always wanted it, and men didnt, and this was just around a hundered years ago or so [22:10] idk ask her [22:10] and i'd say sex therapy is way out there [22:11] now thats totally a myth [22:11] why don't women want it now [22:11] its called culture and socitetal control [22:11] but its for the advantage of women [22:11] why would a man wanna get married [22:11] do you really want to talk about sex with a 15 year old girl? [22:12] i don't wanna have sex with you, if thats what you mean [22:12] i never said that, dont put words in my mouth [22:12] Skywise: women dont dislike sex. but maybe they dislike it with you? [22:12] ^^ haha [22:12] well you seem to think theres something unseemly about talking about sex [22:12] not the ones i'm with [22:12] in this chatroom yes [22:13] its Slackware, not Sexware [22:13] its the offtopic + inappropriate combination [22:13] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [22:13] well i guess that comes from being 15 [22:13] Action: KaMii refers Skywise to the channel guidelines [22:13] Action: miss_riss hugs Skywise. [22:13] cause unless theres something else going on theres no problem [22:13] It's fine, let's talk about htis. [22:13] http://is.gd/bYfOG [22:13] So I have to add /sbin to $PATH using export. [22:13] guidelines [22:13] Any idea? [22:13] not laws [22:14] Watanuki (~naraku@96.45.180.106) joined ##slackware. [22:14] you may ignore guidelines, if you can handle the decisions on your own [22:14] or if you can handle being kicked by the ops, your choise [22:14] but more the point, i wasn't only speaking with you [22:14] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:14] yeah, thats gonna happen [22:14] just letting you know theres a 15 year old girl here [22:15] the world is not child proof [22:15] you're amongst adults [22:15] Action: KaMii is not a child [22:15] if you're not big enough, well you need to grow up [22:15] Who is 15? [22:15] it doesn't matter [22:15] the channel is not rated pg [22:15] I'm curious. [22:15] I am [22:15] But still, can anyone help me use the export command? :) [22:16] sure, export NAME [22:16] export PATH=$PATH:/sbin [22:16] or yeah, do both on one line in bash style [22:16] Alright yay! Thanks ananke. [22:16] I was thinking of putting it in .bashrc but have to see if it's necessary. [22:16] miss_riss, look at /etc/profile for some examples [22:16] they use set and export [22:16] miss_riss: if you're root, you already should have it [22:16] also, help export # for help on it [22:18] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:19] can anyone help me to install etherpad? [22:19] no [22:19] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [22:19] c0cac00l, shouldn't be hard. [22:19] it would be better for you to describe the problems you're having [22:19] and then people can answer your questions [22:19] ok [22:19] Watanuki (~naraku@96.45.180.106) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:20] [#] /usr/local/etherpad/trunk/etherpad :) bin/run-local.sh [22:20] Using config file: ./etc/etherpad.localdev-default.properties [22:20] bin/run-local.sh: line 49: java: command not found [22:20] Don't paste here. [22:20] Watanuki (~naraku@96.45.180.106) joined ##slackware. [22:20] i'm downloading the jdk java 6 [22:20] do you have jre ? [22:20] yes i do [22:20] and is it in your path [22:20] c0cac00l: why don't you use slackware jdk package? [22:21] /opt/jre1.6.0_21/bin/java [22:21] i put in there.. [22:21] hum, what do you mean? use pkgtool? [22:21] or slapt-get? [22:21] Action: ananke facepalms [22:21] i didn't find that jdk package [22:22] jdk-6u20-i586-1.txz is in extra/ [22:23] this http://ponce.cc/slackware/slackware-13.1/official/extra/jdk-6/ ? [22:23] i can't vouch for validity of some random url [22:24] it should be on your install media [22:24] GrooveDroid (default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [22:24] i'm downloading it right now [22:24] c0cac00l: if you're running that architecture and that version, yes [22:24] i'm so sorry guys, i only use slackware for 2 days :\ [22:25] my slackware is 13.1 with fluxbox [22:25] architecture? [22:25] download the package off an official slackware mirror [22:26] that's sad. package browser is still linked to the defunct .it site [22:26] s/defunct/wip/ [22:26] wip=? [22:26] work in progress [22:26] does anyone know how to install the mms plugin or something of gstream? i'm not sure if it is a firefox plugin or something else [22:27] wip would imply there is actual work. there isn't. [22:27] jhw_ (~jhw@p548D3C59.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [22:27] c0cac00l: you can get gstreamer off the slackbuilds.org website (please read the howto section first on how to use slackbuilds) [22:28] ok [22:28] thanks [22:28] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:28] np, if a program you want is not in the official slackware set, go to slackbuilds.org most of what you are looking for will be in there [22:29] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:30] uhm I doubt you actually will find gstreamer on slackbuilds.org. [22:30] i hope he installed the d set or hes gonna be back asking why he cant compile anything [22:30] BP{k}: ya it is [22:30] KaMii: no it is not. [22:31] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [22:31] jhw (~jhw@p548D6D0B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:32] lol [22:33] KaMii, what is the "d set" ? [22:33] c0cac00l: development. [22:33] oh, its the plugins that are on SBo [22:34] heh, oh dear what a suprise. [22:34] well.. i did chmod +x libmms.Slackbuild and then ./lib... and nothing :( [22:34] c0cac00l: did you do a full install of slackware? [22:34] KaMii, yes [22:35] KaMii, with a DVD(4 gbs) [22:35] define 'nothing' [22:35] c0cac00l: you must be root to execute a slackbuild [22:35] KaMii, I was root [22:35] alexzyp (~chatzilla@112.94.186.106) joined ##slackware. [22:35] and you have to have downloaded the source tarball and put it in the same directory [22:35] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:35] c0cac00l: 'nothing' is not an error [22:36] c0cac00l, define 'nothing' [22:36] oh right i was a bit late on that [22:36] c0cac00l, what error did you get? [22:36] i'm sorry, the error was this -> tar: /home/c0cac00l/Downloads/libmms/libmms-0.5.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory [22:37] you didnt download the source tarball [22:37] oops :\ [22:37] then you don't have the source in the correct directory [22:37] source libmms.info [22:37] or you didnt put it in the same directory as the slackbuild file is in [22:37] but what is that? and why i need it? [22:37] wget $DOWNLOAD [22:37] or SOURCE [22:37] wot?! [22:37] I don't remember what it is [22:37] KaMii: do me a favor, wait until you are more experienced with slack before offering support assistance [22:37] DOWNLOAD [22:37] Dominian, DOWNLOAD [22:37] actually [22:37] So, i was right [22:37] Dominian, $DOWNLOAD [22:37] dive: that's what I just said... [22:38] yeah [22:38] nyRednek: i can hel out with slackbuilds why is everyone such an asshole to me today [22:38] better than a whole ass [22:38] hee haw [22:38] c0cac00l, do you really wonder why you need the source to build a package?! [22:38] KaMii: i don't consider asking you in that manner being an asshole [22:38] i do, because i have not said anything wrong [22:39] come on guys don't discuss. [22:39] and i was trying to be nice to him and not talk down to him like some of the otheres are diong [22:39] KaMii: dont bother, imo in this occasion, you actually provided decent replies [22:39] KaMii: ok, now i'm getting to the asshole stage [22:39] KaMii++ [22:40] i was wondering why did my firewall crashed x) [22:40] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@97-127-208-135.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:40] c0cac00l, when you install an application using a slackbuild you need the source code of the said application to build it. [22:41] Let the source be with you [22:41] dive, ok [22:41] dive, ok so i will have to download the source that is compressed on tar.gz? [22:41] i'm sorry guys for my bad english :\ [22:41] c0cac00l: the source link is specified in the info file [22:42] BP{k}, right, i will try that now. [22:42] c0cac00l: are you still in the directory you extracted the slackbuild source into? [22:42] yes then link to the source is on the slackbuilds.org page and also in the .info [22:42] c0cac00l: best way to do it is somethning akin to this "source libmms.info && wget -c $DOWNLOAD [22:42] Dominian, yes [22:42] c0cac00l: do this [22:42] c0cac00l: source libmms.info [22:42] c0cac00l: wget $DOWNLOAD [22:42] Dominian: keep up old man ;) [22:43] BP{k}: shaddup [22:43] :) [22:43] where's the zimmer? [22:43] BP{k}: that's the second time I've said it :P [22:43] BP{k}, uauh.. that's very clever using a variable to download it :P [22:43] c0cac00l: indeed it is ;) [22:43] 2010-08-08 03:39:39 (439 KB/s) - `libmms-0.5.tar.gz' saved [333919/333919] [22:43] what now? [22:43] *HEADDESK* [22:43] now run the slackbuild again [22:44] OMG [22:44] ./libmms.SlackBuild [22:44] thanks you all!! [22:44] Slackware package /tmp/libmms-0.5-i486-1_SBo.tgz created. [22:44] c0cac00l: did you not read the howto like I suggested? [22:44] now installpkg /tmp/libmms-0...tgz ? [22:44] yep [22:44] yep [22:45] KaMii, i read the README, i'm sorry i didn't see the "howto", the next time i'll ! [22:45] done! [22:45] i installed [22:45] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [22:45] http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [22:46] KaMii, thanks! [22:46] i'm trying to lestening to this radio http://www.sintonizate.net/radio/Radio-Orbital.html [22:46] Action: KaMii still wants to know why nyRednek was being a jerk to me, what did I do exactly? [22:47] but i still can't, and i restarted the firefox [22:47] aliens [22:48] c0cac00l: try running the radio stream through audacious [22:48] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:48] KaMii, i will. [22:49] KaMii, like this? audacious mms://stream.radio.com.pt [22:49] KaMii: you're being a typical teenage female on irc. your focus is on what other people think about you. [22:49] ananke: and your being a typical egocentric [22:50] but enough about the truth [22:50] KaMii: trying to insult me is not going to invalidate my argument. [22:51] im not understanding what you want from me, im 15, and your saying im acting my age, so whats the problem? [22:51] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [22:51] c0cac00l: place /ROLI-ENC-401 at the end..that's how the mplayer plugin I use with firefox sees it [22:51] and furthemore last time I checked your name isnt nyRednek [22:51] KaMii: indeed. what's the problem that you're trying to insult me? [22:52] KaMii, why you are responding to him? if they don't respect you, you shouldn't talk with them, ignoring is the best thing to do! [22:52] MLanden, thanks [22:52] c0cac00l: np [22:53] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:53] MLanden, ** (audacious:8731): WARNING **: Cannot play mms://stream.radio.com.pt/ROLI-ENC-401: no decoder found. [22:53] KaMii, you know I have to ask, you seem to have a lot of problem with people, why? [22:53] because im the 15 year old, but they are the ones that always start things with me, thinking its ok to insult me and put me down all the time, while at the same time they call me immature [22:53] wow [22:53] Get over it. [22:53] KaMii: i haven't insulted you, nor even tried to insult you. [22:53] If you base everything you do on what everyone thinks of you, you'll have a lonely existence [22:53] c0cac00l: try mplayer then (i.e. mplayer mms://stream.radio.com.pt/ROLI-ENC-401 ) [22:54] mplayer ftw [22:54] KaMii: i understand where you are coming from& but you really just need to ignore them [22:54] KaMii: it was a mere observation of why you seem to have an issue with people on irc. unfortunately, you didn't take it at face value, you thought i was trying to somehow insult you. sad. [22:54] KaMii, just ignore them if you don't like it. Trust me I get insulted all the time. If you go to ##c you'll get an even worse treatment. Zhivago himself the operator will tell you to die. People are mean because of anonymity, just ignore them. [22:55] as my mamma says, observe with your eyes, not with your mouth [22:55] thick skin is a good thing on IRC :) [22:55] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:55] hehe he tells people to die? sounds like my kind of person [22:56] trhodes: don't forget the teflon back. ;) [22:56] KaMii, he'll tell you to die too. [22:56] BP{k}, lol [22:56] KaMii: sensless slogans do not prove your point. seriously, i was hoping to make you realize why you have an issue with so many folks. [22:56] you know how you get back at those people? You don't die, that'll really piss him off ;) [22:56] guys don't lose your time with this.. [22:57] ##C is a lot gnarlier than this channel [22:57] onto the next fun topic: sun seems to be out of the HPC game. thanks oracle, for killing off yet another sun branch [22:57] trhodes: heck, it has to be, by its mere definition :) [22:57] trhodes++ [22:58] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:58] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488EFE5.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [22:58] i was wondering if it would be hard to install TOR on slackware.. [22:58] c0cac00l, I did so, I don't like tor. [22:58] its easy [22:59] c0cac00l: there is a slackbuild for it on SBo. [22:59] you can find Tor on the SBo [22:59] miss_riss, tor sucks because its kinda slow, but i like to use on ssh :P [23:00] c0cac00l, I think tor (or privoxy or something, can't remember) is bad with confidentiality. [23:00] I remember having an issue with it. [23:00] miss_riss, what do you mean? like government and NSA ? [23:00] tor and privoxy are not even in the same category :) [23:00] alexzyp (~chatzilla@112.94.186.106) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.11/20100701023340] [23:00] ananke, can't remember. >< Ah well be back in a bit, will go talk to my SO. [23:01] miss_riss: that time again to let them out of the cupboard? ;) [23:02] goj (~goj@p5488F17A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [23:02] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [23:02] BP{k}, lol significant other = SO, but I've never heard that expression out of the cupboard. [23:03] is slackware the oldest distribution of Linux? [23:04] c0cac00l: no, there are older ones. But Slackware is the oldest /maintained/ one. (or afaik) [23:04] yeah, it's the oldest maintained, but debian is quite close in age [23:04] c0cac00l: it's the oldest surviving one [23:05] very nice [23:05] on a side note, RHEL3 is reaching EOL in 3 months. [23:07] bout time [23:08] nachox (~Ignacio@OL147-242.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:09] hmm. i think it's time to kill slamd64 off my mirror [23:10] hba (~hba@189.130.50.70) joined ##slackware. [23:12] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@97-127-208-135.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.247.252) joined ##slackware. [23:14] whats your mirror? [23:15] mirrors.vbi.vt.edu [23:17] ananke: aw... [23:18] trhodes: i think debian is a year younger than slack [23:18] i think it's only a month or two [23:19] ananke: yeah, last release of slamd was 18 months ago [23:19] nyRednek: according to: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ch-releases.en.html .. Debian 0.01 through 0.90 (August-December 1993) [23:19] http://slackware.com/announce/1.0.php [23:20] july vs august '93 according to wikipedia [23:20] nyRednek: so, no. :) [23:20] my bad [23:20] BP{k}: i said, "i think" so by bad on that one [23:21] when am i going to be appologized to? [23:21] now i wonder why the lsb standard specifies rpm as the package manager [23:21] nyRednek: they might have the idea longer but got held up in the comittee meeting discusssing it ;) [23:21] lol [23:21] KaMii: i'm an asshole...deal with it [23:22] ^ thats true. [23:22] Hi all, gn :) [23:22] hba: heh...you pop in to agree with me and go away [23:23] nyRednek: maybe because the widest range of distros support rpm [23:23] s/support/use [23:23] ananke: maybe [23:24] with .deb it's only debian derivatives [if we count ubuntu derivatives as debian derivatives]. rpm is used by at least three very distinctive distros: rh family, suse family and mandriva [23:25] ananke: i always considered suse and mandriva to be redhat-derived [23:25] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:25] nyRednek: they're not. especially not suse. [23:25] i thought suse was slack-based (way back when)? [23:25] shonudo: yep it was. [23:25] it was never derived from rh, with the exception of using rpm [23:29] can anyone explain to me what the hell is akamai technologies? [23:30] some reverse proxy for web servers or something? [23:30] akamai is a caching service [23:30] distributed content network [23:30] it always shows up on my ethereal log, c0cac00l [23:32] gniks, if akmai shut's down the caching service, all the websites that are using that service will go offline? [23:32] depends on how the sites using it are configured [23:32] its designed to make the serving up of content, faster, and easier [23:33] and secure right? [23:33] yes [23:33] they do it with a few different ways, CDN, caching, url rewriting [23:33] and probably other ways [23:33] my company uses akamai for caching, and url rewriting [23:33] but why that websites only works if it have the www. before the domain? like portugal.gov.pt and www.portugal.gov.pt, is it some wrong configuration of dns? [23:33] but that sadly doesn't make anything simpler for us, as we do a ton of rewriting on the back end as well :p [23:34] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [23:34] either DNS, or they don't have their web server confgured to accept requests for host's that begin with www [23:34] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [23:34] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. [23:34] gov is a domain of the TLD pt [23:34] portugal is its subdomain [23:34] www.gov.pt, for example, www would be its sub domain [23:35] so www.portugal.gov.pt actually doesn't really make sense [23:35] yea.. [23:35] so thats probaly their reasoning for not configuring it that way [23:35] the government of my coutry uses Micro$oft IIS 5.0 x).. [23:35] take slackware.kingrst.com my slackware mirror, i don't have it configured for www.slcakware.kingrst.com cause the www is needless [23:36] :p not surprised [23:37] www is actually a left over thing of the past [23:37] original webservers could only run 1 website [23:37] so to make sure things go to the right server, they would use the www subdomain to dictate the webserver for that domain [23:37] and when different servers handled different services [23:37] right [23:38] gopher., mail., and so on [23:38] :p gopher [23:38] such a fun protocol [23:38] well to be honest, most places run mail on a separate server as well [23:38] except me and others who don't have enough traffic to justify it [23:39] gniks, is there a way to register my own .com domain and host it on my computer so i don't have to pay nothing? :\ [23:39] well, your ISP probably won't like you hosting a website on your home computer [23:39] but yes [23:39] c0cac00l: you still have to pay the registrar [23:39] you could do that [23:39] and yeah, you have to pay the registrar [23:39] that sucks.. [23:39] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.247.252) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:39] registrars are cheap ;p [23:39] c0cac00l: and it's generally a good idea to get a static ip [23:40] i use no-ip [23:40] static ips usually cost from the ISP as well [23:40] c0cac00l: there is a way to get a free domain name, but it isn't a .com [23:40] a dynamic dns service [23:40] no-ip to use your own domain, costs money too [23:40] i didn't pay nothing.. [23:40] if you want to buy your own domain you will need to [23:40] otherwise you only can use what they provide you [23:41] i don't have a static ip, its dynamic, but strangely it only changes the ip if i turn off the computer for some hours like 10 hours, i can't simply reboot the modem, but i found a way to change it, manipulating the dhcp server [23:41] thats standard really [23:42] you get a DHCP lease [23:42] in theory, until that lease expires, you will get the same IP when you reconnect [23:42] i've a laptop and i only reboot sometimes, my computer is on for 1 year +/- [23:42] but it depends on the configuration of the DHCP server [23:43] i just did dhcpcd eth0 and it changes.. and to change again the ip, i just kill the process doing pkill dhcpcd and removing all the configurations files and doing it again to have another ip [23:43] right [23:43] doing that forcefully expires your lease [23:43] however, they can choose to not honor that as well [23:43] hum.. that's nice.. [23:43] Back. Let's dance. [23:44] they can deny that request at their discretion [23:45] but it isn't illegal right? [23:45] no [23:46] not illegal [23:46] they may not like it if they catch on and stop you from doing it :p [23:46] and if you are doing it to get around IP blocks, its not really ethical [23:46] it is illegal if there's a law against it [23:46] :P [23:46] lol, that is true for anything :p [23:46] yeah, at most it could be unethical [23:46] is this normal? "Invalid TCP packet from 95.172.169.142:49898 : csum [0x86c4] should be (0x8b56) [23:46] Invalid TCP packet from 95.172.169.142:49898 : csum [0x86e3] should be (0x8e3d)" [23:46] corrupt packet [23:47] CRC check failed [23:47] its normal [23:47] but not optimal [23:47] do you guys believe on untraceable? [23:47] back in my home town, its illegal to chew gum while walking down the sidewalk backwards :p [23:47] gniks, you seem to be a master on networking :) [23:47] im a senior network engineer by day [23:47] :p [23:47] comes with the job [23:48] gniks, do you understand about power grids conections with the interneT? [23:48] there isn't really anything special there [23:48] not really direct connections [23:48] if it isn't, why is CIA so worry about it? [23:49] or are you talking about plugging in your computer into the power socket and getting internet? [23:49] no no no.. [23:49] Cruciphix (~Cruciphix@125-238-180-33.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [23:49] why is that, when i select some text in kwrite, then quit kwrite, i cant paste the text anymore in some other app? [23:49] i'm talking about controlling all the grid... like some failure on the system that can be used to exploit and penetrate on some central commander.. [23:50] pupit: some applications clear their clip board when they close [23:50] ah, its standard networking implementations [23:50] the issues there is that things generally aren't well secured [23:50] gniks: ;) [23:50] some anonymous hackers say that there is no 100 % secure system... [23:51] there isn't [23:51] There isn't. [23:51] is that because we aren't perfect? [23:51] No. [23:51] security classes say that the only secure system is powered off unplugged and 6 feet under ground [23:51] The most secured system is no system [23:51] why 6 feet under ground? [23:51] well computers are human made, as is the software that runs on them [23:51] its just a saying [23:51] kind of a joke [23:52] lol [23:52] JESUS-COMPUTAR! [23:52] But seriously c0cac00l If anything can be accessible by the user who is meant to. The software can be tricked into letting others on :P [23:52] exactly [23:52] even with biometrics [23:52] pupit, Least that one would come back to life after a huge hacking [23:52] retina scanners, finger print scanners, voice scanners, etc& can all be tricked [23:52] i'm a big fan of russians and chinese hackers.. they are very good at what they do, and on the most of times they do it with ethical thinking.. [23:52] Cruciphix: ;) or try to Cruciphix it :p [23:53] Believe it or not. The most secure PC in the world is the human brain. [23:53] c0cac00l: there is NOTHING ethical about what they do [23:53] pirving (~pirving@cpe-24-31-159-226.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:53] But then that is pushing to the limits of perhaps they could recall memories of that dead person etc etc. [23:53] gniks, :\ [23:53] pirving (~pirving@cpe-24-31-159-226.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [23:53] There is Ethical hacking. Hacking software finding exploits. (White Hat Hackers) and releasing a patch. [23:53] i think they all should be free to explore the failures... its a right that shouldn't be a crime.. [23:54] pirving (~pirving@cpe-24-31-159-226.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:54] sure they can explore on their own systems [23:54] c0cac00l, there is a difference. and they should use their own system. [23:54] pirving (pirving@cpe-24-31-159-226.maine.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [23:54] pirving (~pirving@cpe-24-31-159-226.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:54] but to go around and man in the middle attack people to gain access to information that is not theirs is illegal, and unethical [23:54] 1. Black hat hackers to get information or to sabotage another PC [23:54] 2. White hat hackers hack to stop hacking from someone else by releasing a patch. [23:54] man in the middle is a local attack.. [23:55] not necessarily c0cac00l [23:55] No not really. [23:55] It's sort of both. [23:55] if i compromise your computer, i can use it to man in the middle you [23:55] But, [23:55] from my home [23:55] but just being a Tor relay node, you can MITM a bunch of folks [23:55] route all your traffic to me, and ill serve you your sites and read your dataz :) [23:55] You need an external access point to do that. So I considerate not local I considerate it a sleezy excuse. [23:55] people dont think to encrypt the data they send through Tor [23:56] gniks, Sure setup a proxy for me :P [23:56] haha no thanks [23:56] :P [23:56] Maco. Encryption is the only possible defensive stand still against hackers. [23:56] However, [23:56] do you guys believe on untraceable? [23:56] No. [23:56] That's not possible. [23:56] Well, [23:56] nothing is untraceable [23:56] It is and it isn't. [23:56] you can make it extremely hard to trace though [23:56] 1. Nothing is untraceable because it has a starting and end point [23:57] But, you can make it very hard to trace back to the one person. [23:57] i read an interesting paper on covert channel detection recently too [23:57] if you don't have resources, then you can't trace stuff very well [23:57] speaking of supposedly-untraceability [23:57] you need political power [23:57] 1. Use hacked boxes 2. Use Proxies 3. Bounce through vhosts and shells 4. Tor and encrypt everything 5. wait 5 years for the data then dispose of the laptop or whatever and drive away with it on a portable HD> [23:57] when i say untraceable is like using multiple ips on some attack, and deleting all the logs or changing it to an internal ip like the attack come from the victims computer... [23:57] not like government political power ( in most cases ) [23:58] i can tell that logs have been deleted, and by who [23:58] c0cac00l, That isn't possible. That's up to your ISP. [23:58] hum.. [23:58] c0cac00l, timestamps are a bish :P [23:58] maco, oh ? what was that about, more specifically ? [23:58] timestamps are extremely curial [23:58] ^ Exactly. [23:58] if your time is off even by a few seconds, it is not legal evidence in the court of law [23:59] Cruciphix, i've seen that timestamps on some shit of hi5 lol [23:59] If you don't remove logs accordingly. even by a few seconds people will think something is up :P [23:59] Lol. [23:59] i think it is possible.. [23:59] Meh. [23:59] You ask I answer :P [23:59] that's right :-) [23:59] thinking, and knowing, and executing are 3 way different thigns [23:59] :) [23:59] trhodes: it was using graphs of time between packet sending to figure out whether packet latency is being manipulated to simulate high jitter as a way of producing covert channels [23:59] maco, neat [23:59] trhodes: its from an ACM publication last year [00:00] --- Sun Aug 8 2010