[00:00] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-75-249.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [00:00] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-75-249.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:01] omeil (n=omeil@CPE-124-185-4-234.qld.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:01] amazon10x, do the radeonhd drivers work good for you? [00:02] i've been using them for the past hour or so and it is [00:02] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [00:02] i'm running radeonhd and svn from the git repo though [00:02] oh im using the preinstalled stuff from the slackware install tried to run WoW through wine bad idea :D [00:03] haha [00:03] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@62.126.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [00:03] slacknode (i=0@c-71-56-242-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:03] the res went down to 24HZ :D [00:03] if you're trying to run stuff in wine you're probably going to need the proprietary blob [00:03] i tried the 9.4 catalyst drivers but it just breaks X [00:03] black screen and 100% freeze [00:04] are you running -current? [00:05] no went back to radeonhd. [00:05] no, i mean are you running slackware 12.2 or slackware-current [00:05] but i guess a better question would be: what kernel version do you have? [00:05] oh :D 12.2 [00:06] 2.6.27.7-smp [00:06] oh ok [00:06] did you check the ati installer log? because i've noticed that when it failed building the kernel interface for me, it never actually said anything [00:06] it just went on to say the install was finished when it actually wasn't [00:07] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:08] il have a look [00:09] amazon10x, i did an auto install, i didn't build any pkgs [00:09] check /usr/share/ati [00:10] i think that is where it dumps the log [00:10] Action: cmk_zzz laughs at suses lousy cli admin tools [00:11] Arirang (n=Arirang@pool-71-182-94-3.ptldor.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:11] amazon10x, you your right looks like it did fail do to a kernel error [00:11] when that happened with me it was because i was running 2.6.29 and the drivers weren't updated for it [00:12] since you're on .27 it's probably a different reason [00:12] I am going to fry this CPU; model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+ @ cpu MHz : 3407.416 [00:12] omeil: Check with winehq with the version of WoW you have to see that else needs to be tweaked [00:12] stock is @ 2900 [00:12] Arirang: what cooling [00:13] amazon10x, haha, just the stock stuff [00:13] The temp is @ 25 c [00:13] for both cores [00:13] MLanden, all tweaks are there all it dosen't have the the GLX buffer tweak in the registry. [00:13] 25 c? that's pretty low [00:14] Yeah [00:14] I guess the max rating is 3800 MHz [00:14] sixforty (n=sixforty@adsl-070-148-228-084.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [00:14] br0din (n=vector@125.161.130.205) joined ##slackware. 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[00:18] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:19] The stock voltage is 1.30/1.35 V, I have it set at 1.55 V [00:19] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:19] hmmm, I am going to try to crank it up a little bit more [00:19] :D [00:20] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:21] does anyone know how arirang gets his hostname set to "unaffiliated/kool-aid"? [00:22] AbsTra`dE`NivEr (n=vldmr@189.52.144.227) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:22] pi31415 (n=chatzill@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042315]" [00:22] amazon10x: asked a staffer probably. same as I got mine set. [00:22] MLanden: When running kooka from cli, there's no output in the terminal at all. When running xsane from cli, no output, but xsane gives the message Failed to open device `brother2:bus4;dev1': Error during device I/O. [00:22] suid0 (n=suid0@c951a636.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [00:22] amazon10x: I got mine by asking in #freenode and a staffer set it for me. [00:23] ahh, ok. thanks [00:24] amazon10x: Also, you have to have ALL 7 steps completed here:http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup [00:24] BP{k}: any ideas why the scanner group would up and disappear? [00:24] BP{k}: btw, how are you? :) [00:24] im getting this error http://pastebin.com/m486273be during the ati catalyst 9.4 and 9.2 install [00:25] fadein (n=fadein@c-98-202-157-225.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:25] poo [00:25] superGear (n=supergea@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:25] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) joined ##slackware. [00:26] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "my nipple warmers are on the fritz. man did she scream when she turned it on...." [00:26] firebird619: uhm dissapear? how do you mean? [00:27] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:28] BP{k}: I had looked in kuser, and scanner isn't listed there anymore, I just looked in /etc/group, and it's there, with my user added to it, and yet when I check with "id" it doesn't show me in the scanner group. [00:28] firebird619: did you log out and log back in after addnig yourself? [00:29] BP{k}: It's been working fine until today, I had added myself to the scanner group a month or two ago, there's been many logouts/ins and restarts between then and now. [00:29] firebird619: for one, I wouldn't trust kuser. ;-) [00:30] BP{k}: yeah, I usually just edit /etc/group itself. [00:30] yup,much faster [00:30] firebird619: let me test something on my laptop :) [00:30] BP{k}: Ok [00:31] Hi Rat409. How are you? [00:31] good thanks , and you? [00:31] Rat409: doing very well, thank you. [00:34] firebird619: hm just tested it on my laptop, added myself to the scanner group, logged out/back in. id shows it fine. [00:34] zGhost (i=zGhost@adsl-69-209-105-94.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [00:35] Hmm, what would have happened to mine? [00:35] but admittedly that's -current. just firing up my 12.2 VM [00:36] omeil (n=omeil@CPE-124-185-4-234.qld.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:36] twanny_ (n=twanny@85.232.202.111) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:37] twanny_ (n=twanny@85.232.202.111) joined ##slackware. [00:37] superGear (n=supergea@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:38] I just tried as a test running kooka and xsane as root from cli, kooka crashes, and xsane seg faults. [00:39] xsane[12374] general protection ip:b64979c2 sp:bfa7b754 error:0 in libsane-qcam.so.1.0.19[b6496000+8000] [00:40] paissad (n=paissad@224.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [00:40] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@97-86-234-223.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:42] firebird619: Is that brother scanner also your printer? [00:42] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [00:42] MLanden: yeah [00:42] it's an all-in-one [00:42] Damn, I guess I'll have to just live with 20% OC [00:42] do any of you guys run a versioning system on your /etc ? [00:42] superGear (n=supergea@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:43] MLanden: It worked great here the other day, scanned a whole bunch of stuff, now today, this issue. [00:43] Actually 17.2% [00:43] :/ [00:43] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-161-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:43] superGear (n=supergea@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:45] firebird619: sorry to hear about that....trying to think what may be the culprit..udev? update lately? [00:45] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:45] Omeil (n=Omeil@CPE-124-185-4-234.qld.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:45] Stupid fglrx [00:45] MLanden: There was that udev update a week or two ago, but the scanner worked since then. [00:46] Ugh, usb in vbox isn't working either. :( [00:47] firebird619: hm I can't reproduce that error [00:47] :(, good grief, it's not showing me in the vboxusers group either. [00:47] BP{k}: Hmm, ok. Thanks for your help. [00:47] Has anyone been able to install they're ATI card using catalyst 9.4? [00:48] X keeps freezing when i boot :( [00:48] BP{k}: Hmm, it's not just the scanner group, the same thing is happening with vboxusers, it is right in /etc/group, but id doesn't show it. [00:49] firebird619: .... that sounds like something rather weird is going on. [00:49] Does my xorg.conf look scrwed http://pastebin.com/m2bcb03f5? [00:50] BP{k}: something weird indeed. :( [00:51] and i'm back [00:51] firebird619: did you watch my brain video? [00:52] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "leaving" [00:52] agentc0re: No I hadn't. I had something to eat and then now I have this scanner, groups issue. [00:52] agentc0re: mind giving the link again? [00:53] Omeil: I didn't even look but it looks like a cross between Ann Frank and Helen Keller. [00:53] sure. [00:53] firebird619: have you tried, creating a new user and see if it has the same problems? [00:54] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5Lz9sohNu4 [00:54] well i installed the catalyst drivers through the .run file and i aticonfig --initial [00:54] BP{k}: No, I can give that a try though and see what happens. [00:54] agentc0re: ok, thanks. [00:54] agentc0re: I'll watch it now before I forget. :P [00:55] firebird619: check your secure log in /var/log/secure to see if anything else weird has occured [00:55] MLanden: ok, will do. [00:55] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-55-214-174.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:56] agentc0re: haha, nice. you ate there since? :P [00:56] superGear (n=supergea@71.212.187.149) joined ##slackware. [00:57] Omeil (n=Omeil@CPE-124-185-4-234.qld.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [00:58] err, ummm, what exactly does this mean: Apr 29 13:49:02 slackware su[4720]: Authentication failed for root [00:58] means ye typed yer password wrong [00:58] Urchlay: Ah, :P ok, I've done that a few times. :) [00:59] Urchlay: I figured that's maybe what it was, but thought I'd ask. Thanks. [00:59] if you're seeing that and you *know* you haven't done that, start wondering who's in your box trying to brute-force the root password [01:00] Urchlay: what about when there's like "+ pts/3 firebird-root. There's a ton of them with a different number after pts/. [01:00] firebird619: It's been so long [01:00] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [01:00] those are successful su attempts [01:00] Urchlay: ok, thank you. [01:01] (the pts/whatever is telling you which terminal it was, but it's less meaningful these days than it was in the days of hardwired dumb terminals) [01:01] agentc0re: ya go to get the bird and ya get da brains. :P [01:01] firebird619: just ironic that when decide to eat their that i get brain, you know that i mean? [01:01] heh, yeah. [01:01] whaaa? zombie food? [01:01] totally zombie food. [01:02] i'm almost one now. [01:02] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbyysjNpahM&feature=PlayList&p=0A1CFEDD9A90E4CD&index=0 [01:02] suits me. I just slept from 9pm to 1am, will be up shuffling around and moaning all night now [01:02] lol [01:03] Urchlay: you sound like a woman prego's. [01:03] superGear (n=supergea@71.212.187.149) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:03] are you okay? [01:03] ;) [01:03] agentc0re: It's been a long time since I ate there, but today I seen those coupons and was going out of town to where there is a kfc, so went through the drive thru and got those grilled chicken meals. [01:04] naw, I have a cold [01:04] took benadryl, which knocked me out [01:04] just wish I coulda stayed knocked out for a little longer [01:06] redtricycle1 (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-161-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:06] hmm [01:06] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-155-216.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:07] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-161-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:07] firebird619: You can print,right? [01:07] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [01:07] \i would rather starve. [01:07] MLanden: I would assume so, the printer's out of ink. :P [01:07] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:08] twanny_ (n=twanny@85.232.202.111) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:08] not because i am interested in the chickens lives. More or less because i am interested in our existence. [01:10] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [01:11] ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1008:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave [01:11] huh? [01:11] superGear (i=supergea@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [01:11] How does that happen? [01:11] It wasn't stable at 3.4 GHz [01:11] I can hear sounds find in Amarok [01:11] redtricycle1: too many apps trying to use sound card at the same time [01:11] but when I use XBMC, it gives that error [01:11] Urchlay: ah..hm [01:12] not sure what the limit is (not sure it'd be the same for you even if I did know) [01:13] ...man, I got owned [01:13] eh? [01:13] I pulled out a mott's can from the fridge [01:13] thinking it was apple juice [01:13] and it turns out to be tomato juice [01:13] ew. [01:14] now I have to finish it.. -_- [01:14] bbiab [01:14] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [01:14] xiws (n=xiws13@221.236.195.251) joined ##slackware. [01:15] take care,folks...good luck in all life's endeavors [01:15] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-75-249.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [01:15] the other night I almost made a drink out of vodka + hummingbird food (it looks like cranberry juice) [01:15] i'm going to give firefox another try this time [01:15] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [01:16] woah, you own hummingbirds? [01:17] Urchlay: btw, I'm on like day 3 of Vimperator [01:17] I like it a lot [01:17] ah, cool [01:18] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIjnidV5pdY&feature=related [01:18] no, we don't own them, but there's a hummingbird feeder outside for the wild ones to come along & drink from [01:18] null... god damn it when is nullboy going to come back? [01:19] kiraa (n=kiraa@ip68-102-46-3.ks.ok.cox.net) left ##slackware. [01:20] redtricycle1: does vimperator do "view source" with vim style too? [01:20] yes [01:20] Urchlay, nothing wrong with humming bird food...would just bee a bit sweet and would require extra vodka to knock down the sugar content [01:20] let me remember the command.. [01:20] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:20] I think it's :view [01:20] ? [01:21] Ah, yes [01:21] if you do :view! [01:21] it opens it in a new window in gvim [01:21] edman007: hm. Too much sugar + alcohol makes me hurl though... like jack & coke, or white russians made with that sweetened coffee creamer stuff [01:21] I never like mixing brown with anything... [01:22] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:22] redtricycle1, hummingbird is red [01:22] I mean, brown liquor [01:22] s/is/food is/ [01:22] redtricycle1: I use "mozex" extension for viewing source and editing text fields in vim (running inside an xterm, not gvim) [01:22] i did coffe liquor [01:22] maxote: like kahlua? [01:23] Urchlay: nod, I never really used gvim [01:23] I'm a vim-in-a-terminal guy too [01:23] i don't know kahlua [01:23] my friend always gets mad at me when I say white russians are for girls [01:23] -_- [01:23] maxote: it's a "coffee liqueur"... alcohol content around 40 proof, and kind of sweet [01:24] russian chicks are often hot [01:24] oh hell yeah [01:24] Oh man [01:24] I just saw Transporter 3 [01:24] and it has a Ukranian chick in it [01:24] I didn tlike her at all [01:24] bought a battery for my car today, they told me "free installation" [01:24] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [01:25] the person doing the installation was this tiny little Russian chick with butterflies tattooed on the side of her neck [01:25] watching her work on my car was... ehm, well it was worth the price of the battery and then some :) [01:25] pics or it didn't happen [01:25] lol [01:25] BP{k}: As a new user, the scanner doesn't work with either kooka or xsane, but id does show the user in the scanner group. [01:26] Hey edman007. How's it going? [01:26] good [01:27] *shrug* I know what I saw [01:27] edman007: get any work on the project done, or still to distracted by the girl? :D [01:27] firebird619, it would be better if i could get some help trying to find out how many bits are required to hold a number, without using a log [01:27] Action: edman007 continues brain fart [01:28] firebird619, lol, i'm just staying up all night and i'll do the whole damn thing in one shot...but this brain fart is not helping [01:28] jaskorpe (i=jaskorpe@knuth.ping.uio.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:28] jaskorpe (i=jaskorpe@knuth.ping.uio.no) joined ##slackware. [01:28] heh, hope the fart goes away. :P [01:29] edman007: you could do it iteratively instead of using a log [01:29] the result needs to be an int, or it this some kinda theoretical floating point "3.5 bits" type of thing? [01:30] Urchlay, i'm trying to write what is basically a macro, so i can do shifts and simple math...and IIRC the shifts can be used in place of the log [01:30] a macro in what, C [01:31] ? [01:31] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-55-214-174.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:31] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [01:31] no...its VHDL and i'm defining a constant based on the value of other constants [01:31] so no functions... [01:32] i *could* just type in 5 and be done with it, but it just does not feel right [01:33] haha [01:33] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:33] I don't know VHDL, no help here... [01:34] Urchlay, yea...well, lets just say i want to do this using only shifts/multiplication/division/addition/subtraction [01:35] well I could do that in C anyway... but not C macros [01:35] copland-leopard (n=copland-@209.241.118.121) joined ##slackware. [01:35] copland-leopard (n=copland-@209.241.118.121) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:35] copland-leopard (n=copland-@209.241.118.121) joined ##slackware. [01:35] Guest44178 (n=sidmario@201-92-114-206.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:36] sidmario (n=sidmario@201-43-55-25.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:39] lame, can't be done the way i want it... [01:40] alright, i'm defining a new constant, that feels sane [01:41] my lame C implementation: http://pastie.org/470868 [01:42] probably does you no good at all, you know the algorithm you want, but your macro language isn't expressive enough to do it [01:42] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:43] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:43] heh, the wiki has a pretty good log2() implementation..but the short answer is the number i want is ceil(log2(x)) and the wiki is saying that it basically can't be done without a conditional :( [01:44] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:44] nille (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [01:45] Urchlay, and actually, In C i think you can do it like this, int f(int x){int bits; while (x >>= 1){bits++;}return bits;} [01:45] xiws (n=xiws13@221.236.195.251) left irc: Client Quit [01:45] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) left irc: "meeting early :/" [01:45] paissad (n=paissad@224.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:46] that is iterative...the wiki has floor(log2(x)) with just a few ifs and shifts [01:47] your function doesn't quite work [01:47] int bits = 0; (gotta initialize) and return bits+1 [01:47] edman007, GO TO BED :P [01:48] Nick change: jkroll -> tecky [01:48] heh, gotos are considered harmful... [01:48] gd it [01:48] stupid xchat [01:48] ugh! [01:48] Urchlay, i wrote it after looking at yours...and i'm lazy [01:48] :) [01:48] tecky, no, a) its early, b) i'm staying up late, possibly not even sleeping [01:49] lol [01:49] also mine returns 0 bits for the number 0, yours returns 1 (case could be made for either one being correct) [01:49] ...no, i will go to bed by 6am...i don't think its safe to drive in the morning without sleep [01:49] gak, no [01:49] 4 hours sleep + caffeine will be fine [01:49] all the morning idiots on their way to work, in a hurry, driving like assholes [01:50] Urchlay, "morning" here means noonish...but i will be driving right into the damn city... [01:52] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-240-26-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [01:52] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [01:52] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-240-26-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:52] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:53] well that wont be as bad [01:54] Winter__ (n=Winter@75-121-143-56.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:54] edman007: finally getting to better then the x2 3800 hardware [01:56] and, i need a damn compass whenever i go in the city...i was driving from manhatten, got off a bridge i thought was going east...and wanted a road that was north after clearly missing a turn...well i was off by 90'...man, that fscked me up [01:56] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: Client Quit [01:56] panzer, nice [01:57] edman007: dude gave me a E8500 [01:57] i only have a pair of e5410s :( ... [01:57] but i will be happy to test whatever you can give me.. [01:58] dual xeons beats single E8500 [01:58] copland-leopard (n=copland-@209.241.118.121) left irc: [01:58] come on [01:59] so? [01:59] i'm always willing to test hardware [01:59] of course. [02:00] board I was thinking about for it is a P5Q SE Plus [02:00] my testing methods are very high quality, i thoroughly test my hardware over a course of 5 years, putting it through heavy daily use [02:00] laugh [02:00] you just need to buy me the system [02:00] of course. [02:01] that heatsink of yours is still the fastest machine I got running at the shop [02:01] lol [02:02] but hey til the Abit VP6 lost the ide controller I did not need to much more [02:03] night guys, be well [02:03] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [02:04] i have no IDE devices in this box :D [02:05] I hope to get that way or with a IDE dvd burner only [02:07] Action: edman007 has an SATA burner [02:08] I still like the older dvr11* pioneer dvd burners [02:08] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [02:10] just going to sata would be nice. 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[02:19] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-155-216.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:20] not bad firebird619 how about you... [02:20] The-Croupier: doing very well, thank you. [02:22] oldie had a conversation with macavity the other day..and concluded in slackware having some files to fix...i didnt get very much what is wrong with those files though.. [02:22] hello, i received a message "Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server"; "(EE) Error compiling keymap (server-0); "(EE) XKB: Couldn't compile keymap". These are showed on tty1 when i typed my local language, and the characters were not showing right. from what this prob can come? [02:25] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-153-156.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:26] Thurin1 (n=bi@modemcable006.135-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [02:27] mib_zbs1yl (i=5961e889@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ee5879143a050490) joined ##slackware. [02:28] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:35] firebird619: what are you up to these days... [02:38] The-Croupier: nothing much, how about yourself? [02:40] trying to see what is wrong with the files that the guys where talking about the other day [02:40] getting the files one by one..checking what they are what they do and removing any pkgs that i know..and i know i dont use at all [02:40] having any luck? [02:41] looks like i have to google lots.. ;) but the real problem is with the libraries.. [02:41] cos i know there are some things that if you update the library to something newer there is a chance that they will not work [02:41] hasansahin (n=huseyin@78.177.225.84) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:41] i dont remember specifics exactly but im sure ive seen it at some point [02:42] man vte [02:42] oops sorry wrong window [02:42] man: RTFM [02:42] I'm just importing my e-mail into Kontact from opera. There's some issue with opera and like google and such, so I was thinking I'd backup ~/.opera and then let it make a new ~/.opera and see if the problems fixed. I'm importing to contact to as sort of an extra backup. [02:43] su - [02:43] hunter2 [02:43] :) [02:44] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@62.126.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:44] edman007: ?! [02:44] The-Croupier, fail [02:44] su - [02:44] Kontact seems really nice, I wish they wouldn't have gotten rid of the ability to archive the e-mails into a tarball, but that feature is seemingly gone. [02:44] Urchlay-iz-st00p|d [02:44] oops [02:44] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@62.126.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [02:45] edman007: wrong window? :P [02:45] firebird619, at least i have a secure password! [02:45] haha [02:45] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:45] used to know a guy who told me he had to pick a password nobody would ever guess [02:46] so he picked "lust4boy" [02:46] lol [02:46] well I sure wouldn't have guessed it [02:46] Urchlay, so you are coming out now? [02:47] heh. No, I'm not a molester [02:47] (neither was my friend with the unguessable password, that's why it was unguessable) [02:47] Urchlay, your a molester?!? [02:48] yea yea, i know, molesters get caught, and thats how you are different [02:48] aight, night edman007 [02:48] gl on staying up :) [02:48] tecky, night [02:48] use caffeine! [02:48] bleah. I gotta decide whether I think I can sleep [02:48] lol, i been up since 7 am [02:48] if not, might as well make coffee [02:48] i bought 4 cases of redbull today [02:48] i'm pooched [02:48] edman007, 4?!??????????? [02:48] wtf [02:49] my liver my liver [02:49] yea...trying to run down the card at my school...that was $250, rofl [02:49] tecky: He really wants wings. :P Redbull, it gives you wings. [02:49] hrmph, i was reading somewhere today that bitchx is going EOL [02:49] redbull is such nasty-tasting stuff [02:49] i didn't think anyone still used BX [02:49] i still got something like $750 to go... [02:49] it's the only drink I ever had whose flavor was improved by adding jaegermeister to it [02:50] tecky: maybe that's why Pat's getting rid of it [02:50] Urchlay, LOL, jaegerbombs! [02:50] jaeger and red bull are both pretty damn nasty [02:50] Urchlay, pats dumping it? in favor of? [02:50] xchat FTW! [02:50] just plain ole dumped [02:50] irssi ??!? dear god please tell me irssi is going in! [02:50] irssi ftw [02:51] hrr, irssi's not already in? [02:51] yeah irssi ;) [02:51] been in [02:51] irssi is in [02:51] thought it was [02:51] i haven't run slackware since .... 7? [02:51] irssi will be in [02:51] or 6? [02:51] i dont even remember [02:51] oh man, people, get off irssi [02:51] pidgin [02:51] there never was a 6 [02:51] edman007: why? [02:51] alisonken1noc, now there is no excuse for that [02:51] :) [02:51] the last linux kern i ran was 1.0.18? [02:52] hehe [02:52] tecky: so what do you use? [02:52] dont ask :( [02:52] right now ubuntu, [02:52] an abacus [02:52] i will not [02:52] -tecky- VERSION xchat 2.8.6 Ubuntu [02:52] and smoke signals for his ISP [02:52] ya basicly :\ [02:52] ubuntu...you are sick [02:52] i remember when linux came on 3 disks ;) [02:52] why would you do such a thing? [02:53] boot + root + a, ap, and n [02:53] Urchlay, smoke signals interfere with my carrier pidgins! [02:53] or when it was on floppy disks ;) i still have my floppy disks [02:53] The-Croupier, *nod* boot and root disks via rawrite :X [02:53] I remember installing slackware from floppies, but I only had one actual floppy disk available [02:54] sls on 6 floppies - does that count? [02:54] i haven't really wanted to install slackware since i got this box up and running for the fiancee [02:54] trying to get her away from using winblows vista [02:54] so it was, write the boot+root to the disk, boot from it, get to the prompt... remove disk, insert in other PC, write A series, put back in target PC, type setup, lather rinse repeat [02:54] tecky, install slack right now or i will ban you [02:54] edman007, its ok, dom, acid, straterra and some of the older freaks with <3 me still :P [02:55] speaking of which where's straterra ? [02:55] he off playing with little boys? [02:55] tecky: straterra does that too ;) [02:56] ??!!! [02:56] Nick change: reallove -> dan [02:56] The-Croupier, well ... ya, he is after all straterra [02:56] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:56] The-Croupier, tecky no, straterra is not into humans, he is a goat man at heart [02:56] Nick change: dan -> reallove [02:56] edman007, /sigh you had to give it away, here i was getting him all excited, ugh [02:57] Thurin1 (n=bi@modemcable006.135-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Connection timed out [02:58] but anyway, i needs sleeps [02:58] night kids : ) [02:58] tecky: night ubuntu man [02:58] night tecky [02:59] tecky, night ubunut user [03:01] sixforty (n=sixforty@adsl-070-148-228-084.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: "ircII+tkirc2" [03:02] tecky: im a hippy at heart so i love everyone.....less you were thinking 'child =D [03:05] yeah he was talking about acidchild. [03:06] hes my adopted brother, so i WILL have to kill him in his sleep now [03:07] i made a resolution this NYE to talk and uhhh interact with more girls this years....has really come to fruition, repeatedly. rofl [03:09] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [03:09] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:10] LF4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "sleeping" [03:13] lionping (n=itsme@cm.mpi.univie.ac.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:14] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:15] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [03:19] zGhost (i=zGhost@adsl-69-209-105-94.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) left ##slackware. [03:20] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [03:20] acidkill: ? [03:21] is there a tool for displaying pdf files on terminal? [03:21] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:21] mornin [03:21] maybe convert to txt and cat it....dunno about a term base pdf viewer [03:21] maybe some LaTeX stuff? [03:21] lol i dunno [03:22] thats always an option for those into SM and DS =D [03:22] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:23] is it wrong i just got an image of a dom humiliating a nerd in front of a linux box as to how horrible BSD is. lol [03:24] a dom? [03:24] dominatrix? :) [03:25] Anyone here using Pidgin for AIM? It automagically failed to authenticate (after being logged in for the last few days.) [03:25] nathanbw, try again [03:25] edman007, did, several times :-( I dunno what's wrong [03:26] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [03:26] password wrong/hacked [03:26] ? [03:26] 2/win 26 [03:27] Thursap (n=bnguyen@118.71.111.69) left irc: "leaving" [03:27] Hmm, I never enter it interactively (Had pidgin remember it) [03:28] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:28] Changing the password fails with "Incorrect Password" Giving the right password fails with "Authentication failed" [03:28] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [03:29] anyone tried listen? http://www.listen-project.org/ [03:29] a player written in python, lots of deps though [03:30] looks like an amarok killer to me [03:30] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:33] lionping (n=itsme@cm.mpi.univie.ac.at) joined ##slackware. [03:34] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [03:35] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [03:35] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:36] yskapell (n=gkapel@195.134.89.99) joined ##slackware. [03:36] goodmorning [03:37] slava_dp: huh,will try it in a few minutes .. :) [03:38] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:39] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.163.127) left irc: "leaving" [03:39] I update yesterday in slackware-current from kernel 2.6.29.1-smp to 2.6.29.2-smp and this morning after reconfigured Slackware (I forgot to run lilo -v after upgrade) I boot as usual. [03:40] I tried to enter in kde and I got error that nvidia driver not found. I recompiled the latest nvidia driver and the kde worked until I reboot my pc. [03:40] After reboot the X does not start and in dmesg I get this error [03:40] p b80e96bc sp bfcfa27c error 4 in ld-2.9.so[b80de000+1e000] [03:41] X[3327]: segfault at 4 ip b80e96bc sp bfcfa27c error 4 in ld-2.9.so[b80de000+1e000] [03:41] does anyone have face something like this before, or any other idea? [03:41] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: "Leaving" [03:44] Thursap (n=bnguyen@118.71.111.69) joined ##slackware. [03:46] i've installed fbida to view images on console, but it give an error: "open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory". i did not see /dev/fb0 on my machine. any suggestion? [03:47] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [03:48] nille (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [03:49] nille (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [03:49] Thursap, you probably want svgalib, though i have never used it myself so can't give you any instructions. [03:50] find /lib/modules/2.6.27.7-smp/ -name "*svga*" -----> svgalib_helper.ko svgalib.ko [03:50] Thursap, try modprobe svgalib_helper [03:56] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:59] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [04:03] slava_dp: it says "Invalid module format" [04:05] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: Connection timed out [04:06] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host43-0-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [04:08] Thursap, uhm. first of all, i have /dev/fb0, i just checked. do you use a framebuffer console? like vga=773 or something? [04:08] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [04:10] slava_dp: sad, i dont know how to use that one. in fact, i'm rather new on linux environment [04:10] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:11] Thursap, new to linux and setting up console photo viewers? :) ok, seriously, when you boot, do you see the tux logo? [04:11] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [04:12] slava_dp: nope, just text. [04:12] stillbor1 (n=blow_my_@KMCCCXCVI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [04:13] Nick change: roorah_ -> roorah [04:13] Thursap, go edit /etc/lilo.conf and put an appropriate vga= statement there. it's commented. you will get a framebuffer console then (and /dev/fb0 hopefully) [04:13] tonephish (n=tone@unaffiliated/tonephish) joined ##slackware. [04:14] Thursap, then run "lilo" to update it and reboot [04:15] slava_dp: unfortunately, i'm not using lilo, so there is not lilo.conf in /etc. i'm using grub :( [04:15] Thursap, why would you want to use grub in slackware? [04:17] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-129-65.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:17] slava_dp: i installed ubuntu first, but it's rather bloated. so i switched to slack which is much faster. but i kept ubuntu in case of necessary sometimes [04:18] slava_dp: is there other methods other than editing lilo.conf ? [04:18] Thursap, then go google up how to enable framebuffer console in grub. [04:19] defcon1 (n=localhos@82-41-92-172.cable.ubr02.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:19] Thursap, you just need to pass correct parameters to the kernel. [04:19] slava_dp: ok, thanks [04:19] guys: when you say lsof | grep username --gives the stuff from that specific username..if i want everything else APART from that username? how does the grep change? cannot find it [04:19] defcon1 (n=localhos@82-41-92-172.cable.ubr02.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:19] The-Croupier, grep -v [04:20] Later Guys. Have a good morning/afternoon/evening. Take Care. [04:21] slava_dp: thanks [04:21] firebird619: you2 [04:21] thanks The-Croupier. [04:21] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:21] The-Croupier, yw :) [04:22] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night"). [04:22] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [04:24] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [04:25] Hermaniette (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. [04:27] pr 29 08:30:41 2009] [04:27] 14:44 [Users ##slackware] [04:27] stillborn (n=blow_my_@KMMDCCXIII.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:35] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) joined ##slackware. [04:37] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-155-216.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [04:38] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-155-216.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:38] could someone please suggest some remote control software on slackware? mybrothers pc is a vista/xp at home..i installed radmin there and MS-remoteDesktop [04:38] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:39] yskapell (n=gkapel@195.134.89.99) left irc: "leaving" [04:39] like rdesktop ? [04:39] rdesktop [04:40] krdc is a good frontend if you use kde. [04:40] damn guys..how did i miss that.. :( sorry thanks [04:41] will rdesktop be ok with radmin? [04:42] nope, it just does remote desktop [04:42] you could install a vnc server on the remote machine and use krdc to connect to it [04:45] The-Croupier: "lsof -u ^username" also works [04:45] rdesktop/tsclient should do the job for Remote Desktop, provided it's been updated for NLA (in Vsta/7/2008) [04:45] i cannot install vnc there i dont like it that much..i have seen what one can do if vnc server is on :( [04:47] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [04:47] "lsof|grep -v username" isn't completely accurate: what if the root user is currently running "vi ~username/somefile"? [04:47] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:48] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-201255.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:49] Urchlay, correct [04:50] The-Croupier, there are rumours on google that radmin viewer works in wine. you could try that. [04:51] downloading/installing wine atm ; [04:52] sbopkg -i wine :) [04:52] ;) that will take some time ;) and then ill check ;) thanks [04:52] slava_dp: or slackbuilds.org download install [04:53] well yeah or you can get alien's package :) [04:53] cbpye (n=cbpye@c-71-229-61-232.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:54] comp_ (n=comp_@81.196.151.9) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [04:56] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [04:57] slava_dp: so many options ;) lol im fine with any of those ;) [04:59] Nick change: XVar`sleep -> XVar [05:00] d4vidc (n=d@dynamic-66-243-246-26.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [05:00] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [05:00] Jsonic (n=jsonic@189.63.215.52) joined ##slackware. [05:01] Jsonic (n=jsonic@189.63.215.52) left irc: Client Quit [05:01] Jsonic (n=jsonic@189.63.215.52) joined ##slackware. [05:06] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) joined ##slackware. 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[08:22] grissiom (n=grissiom@221.221.27.238) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:22] indeed... the problem im having is with a frigging suse box that i have no choice but to work with [08:22] mib_a4dfm6 (i=5961e889@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7e036bd5937e57af) joined ##slackware. [08:23] damn thing is making up its own yp MINGID [08:24] duryodhan (n=duryodha@nat/yahoo/x-45317d17df48fbc4) left irc: "leaving" [08:27] grissiom (n=grissiom@221.221.27.238) joined ##slackware. [08:30] Nick change: mib_a4dfm6 -> nick76 [08:30] cse (n=sinak@195.251.124.129) joined ##slackware. [08:30] hello, when i plug in my projector to the vga, the screen turns black and i only have output on the projector. how can i have output in both the screen's laptop AND the projector? [08:31] ask the gfx driver maintainer [08:32] cse, which graphic driver are you using ? [08:34] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [08:35] hey guys..atm icannot make a slackpkg.. i have to make install, i remember there was an option to make install in a specific folder..:( but not dont know what is called...so that i remove it later by just rm thatFolder [08:36] cse (n=sinak@195.251.124.129) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:36] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:37] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:37] alright cse ! [08:37] The-Croupier: make install DESTDIR=/tmp/package- [08:37] The-Croupier: cd /tmp/package- [08:38] Zordrak: ok ;) i see [08:38] The-Croupier: makepkg -l y -c n --i486-1The-Croupier.tgz [08:38] another thing does it have to be /tmp? [08:39] whatever you want... your only usning it to hold the stuff for a minute so you can run makepkg in it [08:39] *you're [08:39] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:39] dogsoul (n=Viralata@190.166.180.245) left irc: [08:41] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:41] that didnt seem to work :( [08:41] The-Croupier, make && mkdir -p /tmp/tmp/package-/install && make install DESTDIR=/tmp/package- . I do the /install dir so it saves a step for where you place the slack-desc. [08:42] the slack-desc goes in the 'install' dir , but you _dont_ run make install to go there, that can be confusing at first. [08:42] Old_Fogie: damn ill try again and again... :( [08:42] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [08:43] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[09:18] hi hitest :) [09:18] gnubien: hi:) yes, the local time here on the north coast of BC is 6:19 am [09:19] hi Camarade_Tux:) [09:19] time for another coffee:) [09:20] hitest: you have midnight sun there on june 22? [09:22] gnubien: no, I don't think so, I don't think we're far enough north for that. we are a little south of Alaska USA [09:22] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "mIRC" [09:22] hitest: ok, guess you have to live above 70 degrees north latitude for midnight sun [09:23] gnubien: yeah, I think so [09:27] mziulu (i=52555923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-417fbb6d7ef84d5e) joined ##slackware. [09:28] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [09:30] if i open two terminals and i do a installpkg in both of them at the same time...would there be a high chance on screwing anyof them? or i am wrong? [09:30] i.e openoffice and something else while its doing that [09:32] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:32] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-240-26-1.nycap.res.rr.com) got netsplit. [09:32] nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) got netsplit. [09:32] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-76-20-209-241.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) got netsplit. [09:32] The_Faithful (n=Mak@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) got netsplit. [09:32] roorah (n=foo@87.244.223.14) got netsplit. [09:32] fred (n=fred@slamd64/fred) got netsplit. [09:32] gooph (n=chatzill@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) got netsplit. [09:32] get (n=getf@unaffiliated/get) got netsplit. [09:32] cathectic (n=cathecti@slamd64/cathectic) got netsplit. [09:32] radi0head (n=freaksho@modemcable228.95-83-70.mc.videotron.ca) got netsplit. [09:32] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-240-26-1.nycap.res.rr.com) returned to ##slackware. [09:32] nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) returned to ##slackware. 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[09:35] Action: Camarade_Tux wants 12.345 then :D [09:35] or 13.14 :) [09:36] tank-man, nope, not really [09:36] Slackware 13 released on a Friday the 13th.. that would be awesome [09:37] a rose by any other name would smell just as nice, a version number that is incremented by a little is still the newest [09:37] Yeah, that would be pretty cool [09:37] next fri 13 is november2009 [09:38] too far away :) [09:38] I bet we'll never see ubuntu 13 ;) [09:39] tresadecaphobia! [09:43] fucking piece of shit day [09:44] thtas what she said [09:44] no that's not what she said [09:44] hrm [09:44] but she did say "i hope i didnt give you herpes yesterday" [09:45] and then the day turned in to crap [09:45] what [09:45] oook [09:45] because also im out of cash and the bank blocked my credit cards [09:45] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [09:45] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [09:45] yeh [09:45] off-topic.. i know [09:45] well atleast you did get to *pip* her [09:46] true [09:46] tewmten: you did a girl with herpes? [09:46] aparently [09:46] and she knew about it? [09:46] Meh..it'll be fine [09:46] and didn't tell you before hand? [09:46] yeah whatever [09:46] Even though thats a felony [09:46] right [09:46] that's what I was going to say [09:46] o.O [09:46] well how did she pass your okular inspection [09:46] yeah no tbh i did know before [09:46] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:47] Then its all good [09:47] yeah [09:47] fuck it [09:47] i have other things to worry about [09:47] herpes isn't THAT bad [09:47] Take some medication, it goes away for a bit [09:47] but the shit that pisses me off is the banks [09:47] because they blocked my cards without reason [09:47] why did they freeze your cards? [09:47] or they couldnt tell me the reason why the blocked them [09:47] probably someone scimmed my card [09:48] Ummm they should be able to since you are the account holder. [09:48] Did you order some shit the FBI would look at and become afraid over? [09:48] like..bomb parts? [09:48] Dominian: you would think so [09:48] Dominian: but that's not the way dutch banks do business [09:48] straterra: Well, if you count the "suicide bomber" blow up doll... 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[10:19] Hi, I'm using linux 2.6 and trying to do a test here, based on Steven's book, about the persist timer. I created a server and then ask it to sleep (to fill the window size and then starting the persist timer in the client), but what I did not understand here is: When I send 1024 bytes of data to this server, the win size advertised by the server is 46, but at the SYN, it was 5792. As I sent only 1024 bytes, it should not be 5792 - 1024 ?? [10:19] Lexus1 (n=Lexus@62.165.60.236) left irc: "Leaving." [10:22] rebichada (n=root@abe.rcom.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [10:23] hi [10:23] buenas! [10:23] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-55-214-22.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [10:27] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. 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[11:08] bye [11:08] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:09] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:10] damnit he left and i know people up there [11:11] oh well, he'll be back, bc is sweet [11:14] zowtar (n=pain@189.59.81.35.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: [11:15] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [11:18] Hermaniette (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:22] bc? [11:22] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:22] Action: Necos prods vastina [11:23] compl3x (n=compl3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [11:24] yes? [11:24] hey [11:24] Action: Necos points up [11:24] what were you referring to? [11:25] something about a place in the uk? [11:26] bc = british columbia [11:26] pupit: i am in london [11:26] ;p [11:26] cornwall here XD [11:26] oh... [11:27] lw0x15: ever been down here? [11:27] lw0x15: I Suggest you never do :/.. [11:27] oh... [11:27] lol [11:27] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:27] compl3x: should have just warned him off the bat [11:27] :p [11:28] ^_^ [11:28] slackytude (i=8d644b3e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5dbaf496b7c12448) joined ##slackware. [11:28] mziulu (i=52555923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-280ee117988bfa2c) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [11:29] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [11:29] greetings [11:29] hey [11:30] grr i have fibre glass in/on my arms - I have never been this uncomfortable in my life [11:30] HAHAHA!!! south park.... is omg, just love this programme [11:30] lets go to somalia [11:30] love it so much, and it's so much funnier if you live in Colorado [11:30] the somalian pirates we! [11:31] booteco (n=booteco@201.22.27.37.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [11:31] Schooltrip to Somalia, YAYY! [11:31] we run tings... tings no run we [11:31] grissiom (n=grissiom@221.221.27.238) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [11:31] >.<; [11:31] no, i'm watching Butt Out from Season 7 [11:31] I never understood the semicolon in horizontal smileys. Is it supposed to be a really queer earring? [11:31] just out of this world funny [11:32] I thought it was tears [11:32] Ficthe: it's a wink [11:32] ;) ;) [11:32] mziulu (i=52555923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0d31aebf09594e4a) joined ##slackware. [11:32] lol [11:32] I meant in smileys such as ^.^; [11:32] Coolmax (n=mateusz@89.174.120.196) joined ##slackware. [11:33] it's a sweatdrop [11:33] oh, yeah maybe it's tears for affiliated gangster hood bunnies [11:33] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.93.2) left irc: "leaving" [11:33] a sweatdrop? doesn't go along with the rest of the ^.^ expression [11:33] then again, what does go along with anything that's come out of Japan [11:33] mziulu (i=52555923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0d31aebf09594e4a) left irc: Client Quit [11:34] A quotation mark ", apostrophe ', or semicolon ; can be added to the emoticon to imply apprehension or embarrassment, in the same way that a sweat drop is used in anime culture. [11:34] yo N*gg*r, i busted a cap in 3 fools domes foo ^.^; word. [11:34] mziulu (i=52555923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-071f1a41ed917355) joined ##slackware. [11:34] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:34] Action: Necos slaps vastina a few times [11:34] why [11:34] ? [11:35] bad example [11:35] slackytude (i=8d644b3e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5dbaf496b7c12448) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [11:35] lol [11:36] okay. [11:36] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweat_drop <--- for further reference [11:37] why would some young lady want a sweat drop near her eye? plannin on a sweaty rump pump? [11:37] Action: vastina stops... [11:37] sorry [11:37] >.> [11:37] @_@;;; [11:39] bartas (n=bartas@siec.interblock.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:39] Geeeee, what are you so embarassed about? [11:40] nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:40] extreme confusion [11:41] S'okay, Necos. [11:41] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-153-156.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:45] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:45] FYI, catpcha on noobfarm code is going to change very shortly [11:47] there's catpcha code on noobfarm? =p [11:48] for adding a quote [11:48] Thursap (n=bnguyen@118.71.111.69) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:48] i was pulling your chain... so that i could choke you to death :) [11:50] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [11:51] slackytude (i=8d644b3e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-46ac24df3323b66e) joined ##slackware. [11:51] heh [11:51] Switching it to recaptcha [11:51] Hey Dominian. How are you? [11:51] doing good.. you? [11:51] y0 [11:51] doing very well, thanks. [11:51] and working on implenting that into the login as well [11:51] y0 slackytude. How's it going? [11:51] because recaptcha offers a noscript portion of their API :) [11:51] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:52] greetings firebird619.Could be better. how are you doing? [11:52] slackytude: doing very well, thanks. [11:52] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [11:54] oooh [11:54] that's useful Dominian [11:54] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:54] Hi Necos, how are you? [11:54] Haha barrack obama thinks the USA invented the internet - rofl [11:55] lol [11:55] >.> [11:55] compl3x: linky! [11:55] alright firebird619... i have to go get fitted for a tux in a bit... apparently, i'm supposed to be photographing prom this weekend >.> [11:56] Necos: Ill try and find the video - just remember one of his speech's a while back saying stuff - like "As a country we invented the internet blah blah" [11:56] Necos: Ah, are you a photographer by profession, or were you just asked to do it? [11:56] well, we did invent arpanet >.> [11:56] lol :p [11:57] it's funny how things get blown out of proportion [11:57] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [11:57] well yeah didn't america invent arpa, darpa, and vint cerf (an american) write tcp/ip [11:57] sounds american enoguh to me [11:57] Necos: yes, and so easily too. :) [11:57] Hey vastina. How's it going? [11:57] firebird619: not too bad thanks, yourself? [11:57] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET <--- the intarweb says so! [11:58] not a photographer professionally [11:58] vastina: doing very well, thank you. [11:58] didn't Al Gore invent the internet ? [11:58] Necos: Ah ok, you were asked an thus obliged. :) [11:58] rk4n3: haha ;p [11:58] hello compl3x. :) [11:59] hey firebird619 how are you? [11:59] heh, from wiki answers: Al Gore really did have a substantial part in the US legal framework and governmental issues related to the internet He never said he invented it. [11:59] somethin like that firebird619 [11:59] compl3x: doing very well, thanks. [11:59] awesome [= [12:00] Necos: have fun getting fitted for a tux. :D [12:00] like i really wanna go watch a bunch of pre-legal teens in skimpy dresses [12:00] not exactly my idea of a fun saturday night [12:00] haha [12:01] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR_jZlrUqfc around 3:40 - "Here in the country where we invented the internet" [12:01] Stupid obama .. tut tut [12:01] http://www.boutell.com/newfaq/history/inventednet.html [12:01] Necos: just grin and bear it. :D [12:01] 3:35.. [12:01] compl3x: In essence, he is correct. [12:01] the DARPA project [12:01] military funded [12:02] like i said, we invented arpanet [12:02] i agree with Dominian [12:02] Necos: which transgressed into internet, no? [12:02] / [12:02] ARPANET [12:02] Yeah but Tim Berners-Lee wrote the specifications for URIS HTTP and HTML etc read his bio on w3c [12:02] http is not the internet [12:02] compl3x: internet != HTTP/HTML. [12:02] its a protocol [12:02] yeah fair enough [12:03] http didn't even exist when the internet was first conceived [12:03] GOPHER! [12:03] A graduate of Oxford University, England, in 1989, Tim Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web [12:03] lol [12:03] BBS [12:03] thats a quote btw. [12:03] compl3x: WWW is not the internet [12:03] and everyone knows that ARPANET was designed as a high availibility, scalable way for the US militairy to have access to their porn [12:03] compl3x: stop now while you're ahead [12:03] again, that's a protocol for viewable content.. iti s NOT the internet [12:03] haha okay okay [12:03] BP{k}: shhh [12:03] Hey BP{k}. How are you? [12:03] BP{k}: which is the best reason for the internet! [12:03] firebird619: good :) [12:03] compl3x: You have to understand, the internet is NOT web pages.. never was.. [12:04] Necos: of course :) [12:04] ^_^ [12:04] they are a product OF the internet.. for sure [12:04] Dominan: Fair enough, how would you describe the internet as a hole then? [12:04] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.74.29) joined ##slackware. [12:04] compl3x: just like IRC is, like ftp is, like $PRODTOCOL [12:04] and obviously, I seem to have lost the ability to type coherently today. [12:05] Yeah I understand protocols - just can't understand a feasible explanation of the Internet. [12:05] apparently BP{k}, you haven't had enough alcohol [12:05] Action: compl3x goes to google before he gets his ass handed to him [12:05] its like a series of tubes [12:05] Necos: most obviously :) [12:05] slackytude: but those tubes get clogged with kittens! [12:05] alisonken1home1 (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-229-100.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:05] thats why you need to flush them once in a while [12:05] and cheese burgers apparently [12:06] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-229-100.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:06] that "theycanhaz" [12:06] we <3 kitties! [12:06] when people talk about the internet its mostly the TCP/IP stuff [12:07] oooh arpa.. [12:07] makes sense now [12:07] slackytude: which brings us to the american author... vint cerf [12:07] tut tut.. [12:07] it does? [12:08] we're a bunch of egotistical asses in the US, but we actually have something to back it up [12:08] haha! [12:08] nukes! [12:08] ^_^ [12:08] exactly [12:08] Dominian, smells like kitty poo! [12:09] The thing I don't understand is - how can hosting company's sell domain address'? [12:09] InterNIC? [12:09] Like ive hard of domain parking etc - [12:09] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.192) joined ##slackware. [12:10] Cheers necos [= [12:10] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:10] isn't that ICANN these days? [12:11] yeah - appears so [12:12] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@200.140.247.98) left irc: [12:12] same shit [12:12] thats because the whole internet is based on a DNS system thats centralized with a single organisation owning the root DNS servers [12:12] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:13] getting a domain means registering a IP address on those servers (or servers some levels down) [12:13] do domain registrars have to pay ICANN? [12:13] somethin like that [12:13] yeah, if its not a subdomain of an already bought domain [12:14] if you own fubar.com you can create mysite.fubar.com [12:16] there are some distributed DNS projects, that would make ICANN and the like useless but aside from stuff like freenet, its not really a working alternativ [12:16] http://www.icann.org/en/registrars/accreditation-financials.htm to be a domain registrar [12:16] crazy [12:28] The-spiki (n=spiki@91.150.80.51) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [12:28] barefoot (n=barefoot@unaffiliated/barefoot) left ##slackware. [12:29] anyone still got the old readme for kde4 that explain in what order to compile the deps? [12:29] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:30] Nick change: slackmag1c -> slackmagic [12:33] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:34] no duke nukem forever [12:34] they tanked lol [12:35] Action: slackytude nods [12:35] as if we didn't see it coming [12:35] yeah, total suprise [12:36] 11 yr old vaporware ftw [12:36] http://www.3drealms.com/ [12:36] gone [12:37] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.22) left irc: Success [12:38] duke nukem 3d was such an awesome game tho [12:39] true [12:39] IrquiM (n=irquim@157.80-202-203.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [12:39] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:39] but they didn't raise the bar after that... so they failed [12:40] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [12:40] hi there [12:41] hi where? [12:41] Action: straterra has duke nukem 3d working in vista x64 [12:41] Betcha wonder how..since duke nukem 3d was 16-bit.. [12:42] Cause..I'm LEET [12:43] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host201-49-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "byez" [12:43] I played Space Quest 1 and 2 last weekend [12:43] playing SP3 now [12:43] those were from 1987 [12:43] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:44] scummvm and dosbox FTW [12:45] LIES [12:45] All native here [12:46] _guitarman_ (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [12:47] duke nukem ! ='( [12:47] (hi slackytude ;) ) [12:47] crap, I need to buy food quickly [12:48] (plus I don't have a ar.h on that mingw system ='( ) [12:48] greetings Camarade_Tux [12:51] Action: slackytude goes off [12:51] slackytude (i=8d644b3e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-46ac24df3323b66e) left irc: "mibbit.com: :wq" [12:52] hi, how's the 64 bit support in Slackware? I hear Slack focuses on x86 and not much x86_64, is that correct? [12:52] rapid__ (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [12:53] stef_204: correct, slackware is a 32 bit operating system. For 64bit, you may look into slamd64. [12:53] firebird619: right but that's not an "official" build and I' [12:54] sorry. I'm not sure I want to go with anything "unofficial" [12:54] slamd64 works very well [12:54] whatever those 2 words really mean [12:54] unofficial/official is just a technicality, really [12:54] straterra: yes, most of the time it probably is [12:55] straterra, you smell like kitty poo! :P [12:55] /runs away [12:55] :O [12:55] stef_204: I understand, slamd64 is very nice, although I've never used it, many here do. You can still use slackware on a 64 bit system. [12:55] firebird619: yes I know what would rather stick with 64 bit [12:55] straterra, do you really do ? :D [12:56] not sure slakcware is for me--looking at slack or gentoo or arch [12:56] hey firebird619 :) [12:56] Hey Camarade_Tux. How are you? [12:57] fine, and you ? [12:57] doing very well, thank you. It's 64F and really nice out again today. [12:57] :) [12:57] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [12:58] I drank an entire bottle of wine last night... That was a mistake. I feel like i'm going to hurl and i haven't felt that way in a long time. :/ [12:58] Action: Camarade_Tux doesn't even know how it is outside... [12:59] Hey agentc0re. [12:59] agentc0re: Pussy :p [12:59] lol [13:00] agentc0re: I have a problem like that myself. Once a cork comes out, the bottle MUST be drained. [13:00] agentc0re: If I'm with people or alone, it doesn't matter. FSM help me if someone uncorks a second... [13:01] haha. ya, i had been at the bar before the whole wine bottle too. i drank way to much. [13:02] agentc0re: just one bottle? ;) [13:02] BP{k}: after a restart of the pc, the scanner issue has seemingly fixed itself. The scanner worked today. [13:02] lol [13:03] well i was just in the kitchen, looks like i opened a second but probably passed out shortly after because it's only one glass empty. [13:03] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:03] firebird619: heh. weird! [13:03] bahahahah [13:03] agentc0re: had that happen to me too [13:03] eviljames: lol [13:03] BP{k}: indeed, but at least it works, for now anyway. :) [13:03] but nobody can stand alcohol on this channel ! [13:04] wimps ! [13:04] heh [13:04] Camarade_Tux: Dude, you'll come to Vancouver and eat those words one day :P [13:04] Then I'll make you eat the barf from the toilet after you're done trying to keep up with me. [13:04] drinking is my other hobbie -, other than sitting here :p [13:04] rapid (n=rapid@c220-239-129-83.dandn1.vic.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:04] and then he'll take advantage of you in ways you can only dream. [13:05] Camarade_Tux: tell you what, go and have a bottle and half of chevas regal on an emtpy stomach. IF/When you come back, we talk ;) [13:05] eviljames, and you'd better not come to France so you don't abuse wine too much ;) [13:05] Camarade_Tux: I was in France for a few days once. Not sure how many though. Due to wine. [13:05] Ya, i also was on a half empty stomach last night. probably wasn't for the best. [13:05] eviljames: LOL [13:05] eviljames: Those are the best trips. [13:05] BP{k}, my dad once told me (I was 12 or so) never to drink without having eaten first, I don't and I feel really well ;) [13:06] Camarade_Tux: agreed. wise lessons. But, ah, to be young and foolish. :) [13:06] =) [13:06] I should really hurry or I will be starving on tomorrow... [13:06] agentc0re: I spent a couple of weeks in Ireland pulling taps before that. Also blurry. Apparently flew home out of Madrid (open-ended ticket)... Also blurry. [13:06] tozefs (n=_tozefs_@207-172-252-92.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) left irc: "quit" [13:06] Basically, I was in Europe and barely remember any of it. GLORIOUS. [13:07] eviljames, lol ;p [13:08] eviljames: Well hey, you made it out and alive! [13:08] Thats worth drink to! :P [13:08] It was a great trip actually. I decided to go on a Monday (while drunk) flew standby on the Wednesday and bought the open ended ticket just in case... all I had was my passport some cash and a backpack. [13:09] In hindsight, it was dangerous as hell because nobody even knew I was leaving. [13:09] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:11] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:12] good evening good folks :-) [13:12] speak for yourself [13:12] hahah, hey all hey mac [13:13] _ohm (n=nava@pool-71-99-30-84.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:14] Old_Fogie: Good morning then! :P [13:14] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [13:14] :) [13:14] How goes it? [13:14] Old_Fogie: your tip about objdump -p has really helped me [13:14] no applause, just throw bacon dbl cheesburger no mayo light onion and tomato with bacon kthx bai [13:15] wtf. [13:15] No mayo? [13:15] Hi Old_Fogie. How are you? [13:15] I gotta watch my girlish figure :) [13:15] hi macavity. [13:15] Old_Fogie: lulz [13:15] back bacon, cheese, 2 patties, more cheese, mayo, mustard, ketchup and banana peppers <- hellz yea [13:15] macavity, oh no problem, it's a must have tool for sure. [13:15] oh and pickles [13:16] and a side of sweet potato fries! [13:16] macavity, one thing I noticed when I was going thru your script, (it's not a bug) but was wondering. [13:16] Old_Fogie: i dont remember if i showed you the finished product? [13:16] sweet pototof fries! yukies :( [13:16] Old_Fogie: ok, i did.. what's up with it? [13:17] macavity, the way you make the temporary files... are they real files? or are they (for lack of better terms on my part) virtual files that are being passed along in standard input? [13:17] macavity, becuaes you're outputing data to $(tempfile) but yet, you have no hard path for $(tempfile) [13:17] so what is that? [13:17] Old_Fogie: tempfile just returns a file name that is not in use [13:18] ok so for those of us smoking marlboro's and not crack.. :) what does that mean? [13:18] Old_Fogie: just run tempfile in the shell and see what it returns [13:18] Old_Fogie: it spits crap out like /tmp/fileSdfAVdaD [13:18] ah yea oh ok neato [13:18] Old_Fogie: that way i can be *sure* i dont overwrite someones lottery numbers [13:18] so that's how the randomization to temp files is made, cool stuff [13:19] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [13:19] man, leave it to linux-land to teach ya something every day. [13:19] s/linux/GNU/ ;-) [13:19] macavity, but no I'm not sure if I saw the finished product or not, I did copy/paste what you gave, but there is no revision number on it, so no I don't know. [13:20] Old_Fogie: the one i pastebinned was the finished product [13:20] ah ok yes I did get that. [13:21] I've been using steffano's requiredbuilder for a long time, and while it's very good, the only issue I have with it is, it doesn't "save" the /var/log/packages tempfiles, so you do *alot* of repetitive search/sort/uniq/greps over and over if you should decide to run it on multiple packages at one time. [13:21] ok, i need inspiration [13:21] in the package logs the file lists starts after FILE LIST: [13:21] I'm kind of going thru yours and tweaking it :) [13:22] LSD` (n=ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [13:22] how do i get some app or the other to return everything *after* that line? [13:23] then i only need to prefix each line with / to get valid filepaths [13:23] I dump steffano's output into a mysql database I wrote to save me some time, which help me gather for install scripts, but I really gotta fix it all up so if I want to change some underlying lib in the belly of slack I get a quick response , like "upgrade gnutls...hey fogie upgrade foo,foo2,foo3" [13:23] _ohm (n=nava@pool-71-99-30-84.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:24] it looks like we are quasi sort of trying to solve the same problem :P [13:24] yup [13:24] you basically want to know what breaks if you change/yank out some package [13:24] i want to calculate the most linear possible way to compile those 85 packages [13:24] and what might/may need attention/rebuild [13:25] and i would *seriously* like to just uninstall them, and then build the packages in the right order [13:25] link contaminating is a pita [13:25] well, that's why I have requiredbuilder for each package, then the database builds the sort order [13:26] macavity, right a simple # requiredbuilder -b -p -n $i > REQUIRED/${i}.required [13:26] StevenR (n=foo@212.44.56.212) joined ##slackware. [13:26] just loop that over and over for each tgz in one dir and you got a tgz.required for each tgz in said $DIR [13:26] then dump to mysql, sqlite, heck even openoffice will do it [13:27] some apps only need glibc-solibs, some need a lot more, after time, you'll grasp what the order is. [13:27] my solution has been good, but it dies as perl stuff [13:28] that's all out the window sadly [13:29] but, running requiredbuilder takes a lot of time, since he coded the program to build all lists, and grep, etc etc each time, then delete all it's tempfile work, so when you loop it, it runs over and over and over. [13:30] Nick change: battlemidget -> MrMidget [13:30] basically, it's fast for one tgz, but many tgz's oh man is it slow. that's why I'm thinking hacking on yours might be a better solution overall for what I need. drop new packages, into some dir, get the ldd's, creat a new requiredlist, then diff it and announce if I picked up some new depend that might bork me later on. [13:32] yes.. its an O(n^2) runtime problem [13:34] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-55-214-22.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:35] StevenR (n=foo@212.44.56.212) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [13:36] ok, cat /var/log/packages/coreutils-7.2-i486-1 | grep \/ | grep -v LOCATION [13:36] that returns the raw file paths, minus the initial / [13:37] yea, that's all created in chroot [13:37] so the / is gone [13:37] iirc [13:38] StevenR (n=foo@212.44.56.212) joined ##slackware. [13:39] Usager (i=bcirap@ariel.minilab.bdeb.qc.ca) joined ##slackware. [13:39] hi [13:39] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:39] XVar (n=nnscript@unaffiliated/xvar) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:39] XVar (n=nnscript@unaffiliated/xvar) joined ##slackware. [13:39] is someone able to tell me how to install kde4 on top of Slackware 12.2? [13:40] or direct me to some online resource [13:40] Usager, the best way at this time, is to install slackware --current. [13:40] is there a DVD iso? [13:40] Usager, there are many changes from 12.2 to --current (which new kde 4 is built on) [13:41] Usager, http://www.slackware.com/~alien/tools/ <-- use the mirror-slackware-current.sh script [13:41] or maybe wait until Slackware 13 is released, but I have no idea when that is [13:42] Action: compl3x is in love with that script - thankyou thankyou alienBOB :) [13:42] Usager, it'll d/l the whole tree, then make a cd/dvd/ installer for you. [13:42] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: No route to host [13:42] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [13:42] Nick change: MrMidget -> battlemidget [13:43] matts_ (n=matts@65.165.70.34) joined ##slackware. [13:43] will it download from ftp or http mirrors? my college blocks ports 20, 21 [13:43] read the script :) [13:43] you can customize it [13:44] I'm have an issue that is fairly imperitive that I overcome... I set up a Slackware 12.2 Linode recently to migrate a website over, and the database uses BLOBs to store PNG images, using PHP with gd2 to resize them, etc... To make a long story short, I'm getting some errors which I was not getting on 12.0 [13:44] and I'm assuming there is perhaps a package missing or something has changed with libpng/gd2 that causes it to fail [13:44] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.22) joined ##slackware. [13:44] _guitarman_ (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left ##slackware. [13:44] matts_: more than like you you're missing some X libs [13:44] Only logs will tell you that [13:45] XVar (n=nnscript@unaffiliated/xvar) left irc: Client Quit [13:46] Dominian, The logs show the error as follow: gd-png: fatal libpng error: [5C][30][0D]I: invalid chunk type in /var/www/htdocs/retail/lib/php/std.php on line 319, referer: http://showcase.contourcase.com/?/products [13:46] gd-png error: setjmp returns error condition in /var/www/htdocs/retail/lib/php/std.php on line 319, referer: http://showcase.contourcase.com/?/products [13:46] sounds like an issue with the php you're using [13:46] btw, how does Slackware's release cycle work? [13:46] check and see if you have these installed: [13:47] libX11 libXau libXdmcp libXpm libxcb [13:47] If not.. install them.. probably fix the issues right up [13:47] I do... [13:47] Usager: normally two releases a year [13:47] I ran php until all symbols were resolved [13:47] matts_: than I would say there's anothe rissue some where... what is line 319 of std.php? [13:48] that is simply where it attempts to create an image from the PNG information stored in the database [13:48] then I guess 13.0 can be expected sometime during the month of june? [13:48] at first I thought it was just some corruption in the BLOBs... but it's every image [13:48] Usager: dunno if its going to be 13 or not [13:48] and furthermore, I've tried mysqldump regular and with hex blobs [13:48] so far it seems it isn't. [13:48] Any of you get iscsi working in slack? [13:48] straterra: yep [13:48] Using what iscsi implementation? [13:48] straterra: openiscsi iirc [13:48] oh [13:48] I don't think there's a way to use port 80 with that script, is there? [13:49] its been a while.. let me see if I still have my notes.. [13:49] i cant use open iscsi :/ [13:49] I'd like to know that as well, I'm fairly new to the world of Slackware, or any Linux-based OS [13:49] I should tunnel rsync... [13:49] straterra: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/13425 [13:49] straterra: that should give you a ground work bassis [13:50] Thank god I documented that :) [13:50] Old_Fogie: i think i just found a bug... the first occurances of > should be >> [13:50] Old_Fogie: /me makes note to self about the use of xargs in pipe contstructs with output ;-) [13:51] last question, for those of you using a -current DVD, is kde4 on it? [13:51] macavity, yes that too, I had scratched my head at. [13:52] Old_Fogie: i get caught with my pants down on that one constantly [13:52] Usager, that is the kde in --current so yes [13:52] same here macavity [13:52] thank you Old Fogie [13:52] Usager: but do note, that -current DVDs are unofficial, so YMMV. [13:52] Usager: you can download -current isos from ftp.slackware.no [13:53] Usager: but as BP{k} say, they are unofficial [13:53] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.81.105) joined ##slackware. [13:53] Why would you want kde4 ]= why would anyone want it [13:53] how often are they generated? [13:53] Usager: and also.. dont complain on broken things.. just fix them ;-) [13:53] Usager: every monday [13:53] because it's pretty [13:53] slackware.no generates then once every monday around 6CET IIRC [13:53] straterra: Let me know if that helps btw [13:53] thank you very much [13:53] straterra: if it does.. I'll publish it on my wiki for reference [13:53] I'm a sucker for pretty desktops [13:54] Usager: but slackpkg --upgrade-all should keep you on track with the latest and greatest/buggiest [13:54] BP{k}, who runs the slackware.no site? [13:54] Old_Fogie: no idea. [13:54] Old_Fogie: ok, no harm done.. i still get 85 packages on the infection counter [13:55] Lexus1 (n=Lexus@62.165.60.236) joined ##slackware. [13:55] battlemidget (n=uzr@cpe-075-182-099-213.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [13:55] Dominian: bad paste [13:55] oh..nvm [13:55] Doesn't help though [13:56] Bugz___ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-82-206.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:58] thank you all for your great help [13:58] have a good day [13:58] Usager (i=bcirap@ariel.minilab.bdeb.qc.ca) left ##slackware. [13:58] matts_ (n=matts@65.165.70.34) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:00] straterra: why can't you use open iscsi? [14:00] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:00] Because it doesn't work well with optical drives [14:01] eh [14:01] its iscsi... [14:01] firedix (n=firedix@201.254.117.70) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [14:01] Did you already test it with it? [14:01] Yes [14:01] damn [14:01] Well, that little write up does work.. well did for 12.0 [14:01] but it wasn't to an opitcal drive [14:01] for open iscsi, yeah [14:02] I'm going to have to use scst [14:02] Is the driver int he kernel stable for the optical drive? [14:04] geeez this method is so bloody fscking slow :P [14:06] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:07] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-84-181.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:07] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-84-181.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:08] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-85-193.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:09] Usager (i=bcirap@ariel.minilab.bdeb.qc.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:09] hi again and sorry to bother you again about -current [14:09] hey [14:10] sorry don't cut it mister! [14:10] :) [14:10] but I already have a 12.2 DVD and I just found an http mirror (ftp ports are blocked here) [14:10] is it possible to boot with 12.2 DVD and specify an http mirror with current directories? [14:11] Usager: didn't you say you were new to linux and slackware? [14:11] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-85-193.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:11] yes, why [14:11] I guess this convo is leading to ... "why do you want to run current then.." [14:11] personally, my `humble` opinion; stick to slackware-12.2, don't bother with -current. [14:12] compl3x: prettymuch. [14:12] because mysql and php are outdated [14:12] eh [14:12] in 12.2 [14:12] 12.2 has updated php binaries as far as I know in /patches [14:12] and I'm still a sucker for kde4 : -) [14:12] and are there that many changes in php to warrant to run off of -current? [14:12] Upgrade them [14:12] php-5.2.9-i486-1_slack12.2 [14:12] you can upgrade php etc without needing current [14:13] and i'm pretty sure you can run kde4 on 12.2 - according to the current change log - but have fun with that [14:13] Usager: Current PHP 5 Stable: 5.2.9 <- from php.net [14:13] compl3x: no you can't. [14:13] nope [14:14] BP{k} You sure, swear i saw something in the current changelog [14:14] not without rebuilding QT and a bunch of other stuff [14:14] rebuilding QT -ouch [14:14] compl3x: yes I am *dammm sure. [14:14] aight :p [14:14] Old_Fogie: wasnt that "cut -d ' ' -f 9" to get the NEEDED and whitespace to go away? [14:14] compl3x: there was a small time period when it was possible. But -current has since then moved on, with newer libs, newer kernel/glibc shit and all. So it is not compatible anymore. [14:15] BP{k} ah right - makes sense then [= [14:15] Dominian: I also have to kernel patch for scst [14:15] Bugz___ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-82-206.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:15] I realize -current is always in development, but all I need to run is kde4.2, mysql 5.1 and php 5.2.9 [14:15] Usager: go ahead.. but dont complaint if it is broken in some way :P [14:15] macavity, objdump -p abiword | grep NEEDED | cut -d ' ' -f 9 | tee someplace-writeable-ldd.log [14:16] Usager: *shrugs* far be it from me to stop you running -current. [14:16] however running -current would assume you know what you are doing. :) [14:16] Old_Fogie: if i do that it returns a long list of blank lines [14:16] I don't know what I'm doing, but I know I really want kde 4.2 : ) [14:16] macavity, odd [14:16] Usager: and I think you mean "want to run", not "need to run" [14:16] true [14:17] Old_Fogie: for this instance i need -f 18 [14:17] macavity, maybe something diff in objdump from slack 12.1 that I'm on and your --current? [14:18] hmm I would almost say I upload kde4 from when it was still slackware-12.2 compatible but 800MB for just the packages is a bit too much. [14:18] someone is going to get hung if they changed the whitespace :P [14:18] anyway, if somethings breaks I will try to fix whatever is broken as long as I'm presented with feedback from the OS [14:18] or just come and bug you again : -) [14:18] macavity, bin, binutils package maybe diff? [14:18] /var/log/packages/bin86-0.16.15-i486-1 /var/log/packages/binutils-2.17.50.0.17-i486-1 [14:19] I forgot, but can I tell the 12.2 installer to get sets from http mirror and specify sets from the slackware-current directory? [14:19] Old_Fogie: ok, i have a quick and dirty dependency finder now.. libdep v0.1 ready for your consumption: http://pastebin.ca/1415525 [14:19] Old_Fogie: just alter the 18 to 9 on line 19 if that is needed for you [14:20] Old_Fogie: oh, i forgot to remove the last line.. that is just debugging crap because of the little mystery with cut [14:20] straterra: cool [14:20] straterra: let me know how it goes.. also write it up if you don't mind :) [14:20] panzer (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:20] I'll stick it on my wiki [14:21] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-180.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:21] has anyone expirienced mouse problems on 12.2? [14:21] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:21] Anakin- (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [14:21] i've got fresh install , but mouse doent work [14:21] bojevnik: Can you be more specific? [14:21] I forgot, but can I tell the 12.2 installer to get sets from http mirror and specify sets from the slackware-current directory? [14:22] it doesnt move [14:22] not in x, not in console [14:22] sorry to bump that question, but it's important because it's going to take hours and I need to make sure I have at least a bootable system [14:22] and i've also tried quite a few gpm -m /dev/mouse -t xxx options [14:23] tried imps/2 [14:23] ive tried imps2 is that different? [14:24] sorry didn't read everything you said .. * reads * [14:24] relevant or relavant? [14:25] relevant [14:25] thx [14:25] np [14:26] bojevnik: what mouse are you using? [14:26] Old_Fogie: dyslexia fixed, along with the debugging crap: http://pastebin.ca/1415536 [14:26] Old_Fogie: and ducumentation in the form of comments :P [14:26] damn slow ass amd64 [14:26] hurry up [14:27] some old crappy logitech one [14:27] it works on 12.1 thou [14:27] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:27] bojevnik: same config? [14:27] straterra: funny you should mention it.. i was just cursing that a core2duo 2.16 is starting to seem slow :-/ [14:27] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host75-237-dynamic.11-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:27] tried it didnt work [14:27] wait a sec [14:27] stupid/not so stupid question - checked your connections? [14:28] Action: macavity needs something in the 5GHz range [14:28] oh, and some 3ware 9xxx gear with 15K RPM disks [14:28] compl3x, u mean me, i mean like cables and stuff? [14:28] who haz? icanhaz? [14:28] bojevnik: Yep [14:29] I hazfishnchipz [14:29] that shouldn't be a problem since it works on 12.1 and windows [14:29] recently? [14:29] bojevnik: Just saying its worth a try- ruling something out.. [14:30] Coolmax (n=mateusz@89.174.120.196) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:30] Old_Fogie: try and run that script on the qt packagelog >_< [14:31] ok [14:31] Old_Fogie: that was a joke.. it takes for ever :P [14:31] is there anything else that could be wrong with it, i will try it but im working on something and cant reboot my comp now [14:31] macavity, k I'll try on a smaller one then [14:32] ok, I booted into the 12.2 installer and specified slackware-current/slackware/ for install sets from a http mirror... after it'S done installing all sets, will the 12.2 take into account that I'm running -current when running configuration scripts? [14:33] or is this not a proper way of installing -current [14:33] lulz.. it looks like qt has a hard dependency on gcc :P [14:33] Usager: no, that is not the way to run current [14:34] Usager: slackpkg --upgrade-all [14:34] Usager: you should know this if you want to run -current. [14:34] well tnx anyway, if that doesnt work ill just stick to 12.1 [14:34] well, I read the README.TXT in isolinux directory [14:34] Usager: where the mirror is set to -current (and then you better have an answer for all the questions is is going to ask about the .new files) [14:34] but I don't have an empty DVD in my hands [14:34] battlemidget (n=uzr@cpe-075-182-099-213.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:35] macavity, yeah I still have to use -f 9 (fwiw) [14:35] Old_Fogie: i bet the is going to tick some Debian folks off sooner or later ;-) [14:35] thanks [14:35] macavity, I'm running it on 'totem' right now, gonna compare it to the requiredbuilder's output in a minute or so [14:35] *that [14:35] Usager (i=bcirap@ariel.minilab.bdeb.qc.ca) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]" [14:35] macavity, maybe a localization thing? [14:35] also on unrelated question, when will next version com out? [14:36] bojevnik: when it's ready. [14:36] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host43-0-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:36] There isn't a set date or release schedule. [14:36] macavity, well most debianista's use the dpkg-shlibdeps app, such as find . -type f -exec dpkg-shlibdeps -O {} \; [14:36] ok tnx [14:36] bojevnik: the official answers is: "When it's ready" [14:36] macavity, but they turn to objdump, when they find that the builder of a package, that dpkg-shlibdeps checks is wrong. [14:37] Old_Fogie: come again? [14:37] macavity, so to submit a bug, they they turn to objdump. the dpkg-shlibdeps looks in the package database to spped up things..but objdump is the 'mother' of the ldd for the debian bug style, way to report, [14:37] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:37] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [14:38] ok [14:38] macavity, interesting. it's picking up 'googleearth' as a depend :) [14:38] macavity, hahaha. [14:38] probably due to openssl? [14:39] or some other form of lib that googleearth uses? [14:39] i am not sure :P [14:39] haha, it picks up 'acroread' too [14:39] but it has the other things too that are in fact needed for totem vs the requiredbuilder app [14:39] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-208.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [14:39] perhaps the grepping thing is too broad... [14:39] but *way* faster [14:40] ok, so it is usable to you? [14:40] well, googleearth I believe ships their own static openssl, so technically speaking, that is correct, [14:40] that it should show in my dep's list, as openssl is needed for totem. [14:41] hence the reason that ldd's have their issues, heh [14:41] Old_Fogie: inspect the output files manually and see what the heck is going on [14:41] Old_Fogie: just get it to dump the tempnames like in the first version [14:41] macavity, but yes that is certainly a good tool. [14:41] your input and 20 minutes of work :P [14:42] again, thx for the objdump tip.. that is what is helping me unmangle this xorg hell [14:42] ok, I got some builds going on right now, but will certainly give this a whirl . [14:42] macavity, oh your welcome :) [14:42] i am going to use this tool (and the one from yesterday) to figure out how to remove x/ and and recompile the whole thing *linearly* [14:43] i hate that "just keep repeating this untill everything compiles" approach [14:43] that is how libtool archives become 20 lines long with the same lib mentioned over and over again [14:44] yea, very redundant [14:44] once i have this one done, i was thinking about doing all of slackware that way :P [14:44] macavity, tho don't forget the 'uniq' binary, it's very useful. just 'uniq' some text.txt file,and it'll remove duplicate lines. [14:45] i know [14:45] so, do a sort, then uniq | someoutput.txt [14:45] ah ok [14:45] sort -u == sort | uniq [14:45] yeah, uniq is some cool stuff [14:46] anyhow.. enough for now [14:46] cya later [14:46] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [14:47] hello guys! entering pydoc -g gives me an error "TclError: out of stack space (infinite loop?)", which seems to be related to tcl not being compiled with multiple thread support? Should this be reported to Pat as a bug? [14:53] Mellar: Same issue here [14:55] compl3x: yeah, I checked Pats buildscript, and he doesn't enable multiple threading ftp://ftp.slackware.no/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-12.1/source/tcl/tcl/tcl.SlackBuild [14:55] Mellar: ah right [14:56] Kerio2004 (n=Port@94.99.82.244) joined ##slackware. [14:57] Mellar, works for me on 12.1 [14:57] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@186.66.71.71) left irc: "Saliendo" [14:57] Mellar: Im on current and same issue. [14:58] okei. 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[15:08] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:22] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-208.dial.telus.net) left irc: "fuck. brb" [15:26] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-246.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:30] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0FF01.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:34] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:34] Old_Fogie: lighting just struck me! [15:34] oh? [15:34] You personally? [15:35] Old_Fogie: i can tweak the script i just made to putput in this format: input-packagename dep1 dep2 dep3 [15:35] Old_Fogie: then i do that for all the packages i need info about, and output all of those lines to the same file [15:35] Old_Fogie: then run tsort | tac on that file [15:35] Old_Fogie: that will give me "the perfect build list" [15:35] ooh that sounds good [15:36] Old_Fogie: as i said.. a clean linear build!!! [15:36] Action: macavity jumps up and down like the child he really is [15:36] hello Old_Fogie, are you old in your hardware preferences as well by chance? [15:36] :) [15:37] OldGringo: hello Mr Bierce ;-) [15:37] or anyone, sorry to pick on Old_Fogie [15:37] haha [15:37] haha macavity, using tab much? [15:37] vastina, yes I use antiques [15:37] Action: v4nelle akuei KLMT UNION -MESA STO PARKO ......OEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [15:37] lets play spot the tad [15:38] vastina: no, that was for OldGringo... it's sort of an insider joke you see [15:38] tard* [15:38] Old_Fogie: what do you suggest as a robust sparc setup? [15:38] an ideal one anyway [15:38] macavity: oh ok, joke's on me then [15:38] :) [15:38] sparc? heck if I know [15:38] Old_Fogie: i'm thinking workstation-class [15:38] :D [15:39] oh nvm then, any takers out there? [15:39] OldGringo: i actually happen to own the Devil's Dictionary.. in the first edition :-) [15:39] i'm itching to use some risc-based hardware [15:39] vastina: if you want to know about risc/sparc you should talk to psychicist [15:40] macavity: i know a load about it, *misses using silo on sparcstations*, but thank you for the referral, i'll bug when he's about [15:41] someone to talk shop on sparc hardware would be great [15:43] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0FF01.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" [15:45] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@72.252.61.9) joined ##slackware. [15:45] hey.. why did OldGringo walk out.. perhaps he didnt know what his nick was refering to? :P [15:46] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@72.252.61.9) left irc: Client Quit [15:46] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@72.252.61.9) joined ##slackware. [15:48] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [15:52] macavity, :) [15:56] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:57] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:57] hey anyone running fluxbox with two monitors? [15:57] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) joined ##slackware. [15:58] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [15:58] Old_Fogie: sed 's/\(.*\)-.*-.*-.*/\1/;' [15:58] Old_Fogie: that stips the name of a packagelog down to the package name [15:58] Old_Fogie: i figured you might need it ;-) [15:58] ah, ok got it thanks [15:58] mogunus (n=user@173-9-7-10-New-England.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [15:59] man, cant get sane-frontends to build with their new sane-backends. don't these dev's test their stuff before they roll it out? [15:59] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:00] oh well, seems as tho frontends is really only if you want cli auto doc feeder, and xsane has that already so oh well..build n' move on I guess [16:02] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:03] gboxx (n=gboxx@cmnz-4dbd8d81.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [16:03] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat076.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [16:03] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.90.90.50) joined ##slackware. [16:03] http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.1/index.html [16:05] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [16:05] kiraa (n=kiraa@ip68-102-46-3.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:07] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-170-205-67.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:08] ... is anyone running fluxbox with two monitors? [16:09] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@74.65.172.140) joined ##slackware. [16:09] Whats up [16:10] Trying to fix something with apache on my new server, lol [16:11] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [16:11] hey bhodgins. How's it going? [16:12] Not bad. [16:12] Old_Fogie: ok, now i can output in a tsort freindly format! [16:12] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:12] Ever had a problem loading mod_authn_dbd.so for apache? [16:13] keeps on saying it wont load, File too short [16:13] how big is it? [16:13] ill check just one seccond [16:14] aha. its empty [16:14] so, after all, apache is not as dumb as it looks ;-) [16:15] no. [16:15] it says it comes with apache but reinstalling it isnt fixing it.. one momenyt [16:16] agh, server lag [16:16] What the hell are they doing over there. [16:17] on -current it is 7.5 KB [16:18] lagged out [16:18] ls -lh "/$(grep mod_authn_dbd.so /var/log/packages/httpd-*)" [16:18] ah, this breaks xsane too, well the heck with it then, back to stock sane then, and live with it. [16:18] http://www.xsane.org/ <--- read the last news posts... sounds like the intel/radeon mess is now moving to 'sane' and 'xsane' too now. wth. [16:18] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 2008-10-22 18:55 /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authn_dbd.so [16:19] Bojevnik_ (n=Bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [16:20] Old_Fogie: why do you think i am hacking my ass of on this problem? [16:20] Old_Fogie: we have link contamination all over the place [16:20] macavity, yeah I know believe me I do. now look at the mess that sane/xsane is becoming. [16:20] it's the same thing all over again. [16:21] Old_Fogie: and i am intent to provide Pat with a clean re-build-from-scratch-in-one-go list [16:21] ok.. that was bad english, wasnt it? [16:21] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "Leaving" [16:21] wow, that'd be a nice contrib [16:21] winter (n=winter@98-125-77-127.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [16:22] installing from usc instead of utah [16:22] macavity, I get your point the english is fine. well, except where you say "dublicates" :) it should be "duplicates" as in "duplication" , but we'll let it go :) [16:22] roger [16:22] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:23] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:23] macavity, what are you building ? [16:24] there we go, apache should be running. slackware.cs.utah.edu seems to have an empty lib [16:25] in their package [16:25] Nick change: rapid__ -> rapid [16:26] oh boy. [16:26] Dad` (n=Dad`@85-171-172-153.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:26] not actualy startingf [16:27] ok, i am bloody close now! [16:27] macavity, surprise power failure ! [16:27] AHA [16:27] Dad` (n=Dad`@85-171-172-153.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: SendQ exceeded [16:27] Dad` (n=Dad`@85.171.172.153) joined ##slackware. [16:27] Camarade_Tux: i am not building.. i am sorting out the spaghetti mess that build itterations has caused [16:28] macavity, for something in particular or for all packages ? [16:28] Dad` (n=Dad`@85.171.172.153) left irc: Connection reset by peer [16:28] Camarade_Tux: libtool has infected half the worls (notably x/) with an insane amount of duplicate linking information [16:28] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:28] Camarade_Tux: libxcb-xlib is in particular a nasty fella [16:29] I see, sounds nice, thanks :) [16:29] Camarade_Tux: so far, 85 packages needs to be recompiled (one of them is dbus) if "we" switch to the new xorg stack [16:29] Bojevnik_ (n=Bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:29] he [16:29] that'll make the biggest changelog entry ever in -current ;p [16:30] Action: Camarade_Tux tries to guess whether ar.h should come along binutils on mingw [16:30] Camarade_Tux: uhm, yes... ill give you a count in just a seccond on how many it becomes all in all [16:30] pat should dump dbus, hal and xorg and go back to using xfree86 [16:30] Pig_Pen: what kind of drugs are you on? [16:30] Pig_Pen: why? [16:31] Pig_Pen, no ! I want my pr0n to be accelerated ! :D [16:31] Pig_Pen: i *want* KMS [16:31] why not [16:31] Pig_Pen: i *want* composite [16:31] you can get glx dri with xfree86 [16:31] Pig_Pen: i *want* the hefty acceleration that xcb brings us due to its async socket calls [16:32] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [16:32] Pig_Pen: i *want* GEM and not MTT [16:32] in short.. i dont want to be stuck in the stoneage with my graphics performance [16:33] guys, do you have a "ar.h" in /usr/include ? [16:33] ok.. dont do "sort filename > filename" [16:34] bojevnik (n=Bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:34] that leaves a blank file :-/ [16:34] hmm, only running httpd works, apachectl and rc.httpd do not [16:34] macavity, he, I did that once too ;p [16:34] well, rc.httpd does use apachectl [16:35] i may make a fork of slackware and call it LudditeLinux :D [16:35] sign me up ! [16:36] ... no wireless support, only twm or ion for X desktops, mostly console software ... I'm there :) [16:36] uses xfree86, no dbus, no hal, lots of the nicer light weight window managers including openbox, ratpoison, dwm, fvwm [16:36] fluxbox [16:36] plx [16:37] ok, fluxbox makes the cut - barely ;) [16:37] Camarade_Tux: ok... i have 359 packages up for update/recompile :-/ [16:37] sure, since they are small, easy to build, throw em all in [16:37] How can I configure firefox so that "Open Containing Folder" in the downloads dialog uses konqueror to open the directory? Right now it does absolutely nothing [16:37] Camarade_Tux: so yes.. your thesis that this might be the biggest changelog entry ever is *probably* correct :P [16:37] macavity, get another computer and see if gentoo installs faster ;p [16:37] makerc (n=makerc@201-92-124-145.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:37] Camarade_Tux: the bad part is yet to come :P [16:38] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:38] /c [16:38] bah [16:38] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [16:38] Camarade_Tux: inspecting each of these packages for link contamination -> deducint dependencies -> tsorting is going to take ages [16:38] macavity, I'm doing worse : I want to get the 7000 ports of pkgsrc available on windows :D [16:38] rworkman: just wait and see what i have to show you :P [16:39] macavity: I'm not into that sort of thing. [16:39] lool [16:39] macavity, you could probably speed that a lot by puting the system on ram [16:39] macavity: everybodys f**king seen it [16:40] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat076.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:40] :-) [16:40] does lilo have a parameter to load everything to ram? [16:40] /c [16:40] ^^ [16:40] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.130.154) joined ##slackware. [16:40] rworkman: / /c ? [16:41] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.130.154) left irc: Client Quit [16:42] winter (n=winter@98-125-77-127.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:42] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@74.65.172.140) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:46] cbpye (n=cbpye@c-71-229-61-232.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:50] would copy2ram with with lilo and slack? [16:50] *work [16:50] Pig_Pen, no [16:51] compl3x (n=compl3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:52] what would it take to get that work? (impossible?) [16:52] can anyone confirm that ar.h is part of the binutils package in slackware ? [16:52] WillDanceForPeso (n=Administ@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [16:52] Pig_Pen, lilo has nothing to do with that, it can only be a parameter that is read later as the linux-live scripts do [16:52] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:53] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: Client Quit [16:53] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: "Against censorship in Germany: http://tinyurl.com/epetition2009" [16:54] hi, how does one install Slackware -current considering I've got a new laptop with nothing on it [16:54] or what is the proper way to do it [16:54] the same way you'd install a versioned release [16:55] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [16:55] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:56] the way I install a versioned release is that I download the whole dvd iso and go from there [16:56] but, is there such a thing as a dvd iso holding Slackware -current? [16:56] there is [16:56] thank you [16:57] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:57] you could get AlienBob's script that uses rsync to download current from a mirror then use his minimal iso to install it, but that current tree is about 4 gigs [16:57] dsxcderdcdfr4edftrfgtrfgvdredfcde3wszaqZSEDRDFFDR4ED qs [16:57] {OU [16:57] malfunction? or troll? [16:57] oops [16:58] can I run that script from within w2k? [16:58] Action: john_dee is cleaning the keyboard after 3 hours of ut2004 :) [16:58] sahko (n=sahko@94.68.163.10) joined ##slackware. [16:58] WillDanceForPeso: no [16:59] i still have the crosshair in front of me even when i look away from monitor [16:59] %) [16:59] WillDanceForPeso: you would be better off just getting 12.2 for now [16:59] you can also get an -current iso from here ftp://ftp.slackware.no/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-current-iso/ [17:00] thank you! [17:00] WillDanceForPeso: But you can download the slackware-current tree on WIndows, share that folder, then use the USB image or the mini ISO to boot and then do a network "SAMBA" install. Point the installer to that windows share [17:00] WillDanceForPeso: why are you looking to run the current tree? [17:00] kde4.2 [17:01] alienBOB, I will try your method [17:01] thanks for the support [17:01] its a work in progress so expect a bug or two, maybe some glitches, but overall fairly stable [17:01] chopp: the -current ISO at ftp://ftp.slackware.no/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-current-iso/ is only half the size you would expect. [17:01] I never downloaded it to see what is in it [17:02] Pig_Pen, If he is running 2K, I would say he is used to it. [17:02] Camarade_Tux: /usr/include/ar.h is in glibc here (12.2) [17:02] I just read the source was dropped in the current iso [17:02] pprkut, hmm, thanks a lot [17:02] np [17:02] compared to windows most all Linuxes are more stable, heck of a lot more secure too [17:02] maybe the -current iso is missing the sources [17:02] alienBOB: really? oops, well I never even knew it existed until today. I won't be pointing it out again. :P [17:03] Camarade_Tux: makes sense. Still, I would hate to re-download a complete ISO if I already had -current downloaded earlier and only a few packages changed [17:03] w2k (patched) is fairly stable too [17:03] and secure [17:03] sahko (n=sahko@94.68.163.10) left irc: Client Quit [17:03] kiraa (n=kiraa@ip68-102-46-3.ks.ok.cox.net) left ##slackware. [17:03] WillDanceForPeso: for the record, there is not 'official' current iso's so any current iso images you find are created by third parties. [17:03] compl3x (n=compl3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [17:04] you should just use alienBOB's method or make your own iso's if you know how [17:04] can these third parties be trusted? [17:04] alienBOB, right, I think I only downloaded two or three isos before switching to rsync :) [17:04] Indeed it says "ftp.slackware.no" but that site is in no way affiliated with Slackware, Inc. [17:05] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-163-10.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:05] how old is Slackware anyway? [17:05] 1993? [17:05] WillDanceForPeso: in all honesty, if these questions come up you should really re-examine the idea of running current [17:06] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:06] my only interest in Slackware is that it's said to be the oldest Linux-based OS still actively developed today [17:06] if that's true, it must be damn good [17:06] goatdog (n=goatdog@tn-74-4-34-143.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [17:06] uhm.. [17:06] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-180.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:06] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:07] Windows 2000 doesn't have fixes released for it anymore [17:07] that's why I need an alternative and Slackware seemed attractive for the reason I mentioned above [17:07] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.22) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:08] You could run a Windows OS that's halfway recent [17:08] WillDanceForPeso: wait...you chose Slackware because it's old? [17:08] WillDanceForPeso: Maybe I missed something - why not use 12.2? [17:08] i was just about to say.... [17:08] he mentioned kde4 [17:08] stillbor1 (n=blow_my_@YMMCXLI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [17:08] it may sound strange, but yes [17:08] another one who wants current for kde4:/ [17:09] Good good [17:09] Sort of an odd jump, Win 2K to KDE4. But to each his own I suppose. [17:09] more testers :P [17:09] the way I see this, if Slackware survived until today, it must be reliable [17:10] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [17:10] if anybody disagrees, let me know and I'll reconsider my choice [17:10] WillDanceForPeso: http://futurist.se/gldt/gldt93.png will be interesting to you [17:11] WillDanceForPeso: well,+++ [17:11] doh [17:11] MS3FGX: besides w2k, I've also tested windows 7 out of curiosity and I pretty much liked it [17:11] that's my reason for trying out kde4 [17:11] Because of Windows 7? [17:11] :| [17:11] Well Slackware is certainly reliable enough, though many people would likely say the opposite about KDE4. [17:12] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [17:12] One of those people being myself [17:12] nice graphic alienBOB [17:12] I find kde4 reliable [17:12] oh, pretty graphics :) [17:12] i think pat is doing the best he can with the kde4.x sources he gets, it is the kde developers that need to do some more work on it [17:13] I use KDE everyday, on a big desktop as well as on my ThinkPad T41 and Eeepc 1000H notebooks [17:13] hmm my issue is with its looks - I cant have desktop icons anymore because its a "Desktop Folder" :/ [17:13] I switched from KDE4 to Vista [17:13] its usable, but i notice a performance hit over kde-3.x [17:13] _guitarman_ (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [17:14] Pig_Pen: shut off all the eye candy [17:14] i did [17:14] heh [17:14] that's to be expected, at one point or another a hardware upgrade is in order [17:14] straterra, that's too big for a credible troll ;) [17:14] i will wait until the next release is official and try it again [17:15] maybe it's against kde's philosophy (to require a hardware upgrade in order to run kde4), but it can't go on forever [17:15] h [17:15] hmm* [17:15] $3.4 Trillion, wheres he going to get that? [17:16] alienBOB: which kde are you using at the moment? [17:19] KDE 4.2.2 and 4.2.3 [17:19] caio (n=caio@190.244.36.137) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:19] alienBOB: any noticable difference with .3? [17:19] WillDanceForPeso: my asus eeepc netbook runs KDE4 just fine [17:20] macavity: I have not done much testing yet, busy with other stuff, but on the surface I saw no differences [17:20] which X.org driver? [17:20] WillDanceForPeso: intel [17:21] WillDanceForPeso: all netbooks basically have Intel GMA950 [17:21] thank you [17:22] btw, you instructed me to boot with a minimal ISO and then fetch the sources on my samba share [17:22] stillborn (n=blow_my_@KMCCCXCVI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:22] which minimal ISO is that? [17:23] 12.2 with a/ ? [17:23] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:25] anyone uses the nvidia panel, how do I preserve once setupped settings ? In windows it is possible ... [17:25] Jean (n=jean@93-36-227-101.ip62.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [17:25] nvidia panel? never heard of it and i have a nvidia graphics & driver [17:25] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-246.dial.telus.net) left irc: "I MUST WORK NOW! FAIL!" [17:26] paul424: nvidia-settings? [17:26] that i have [17:26] use that - then just press the save xorg settings [17:26] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.81.105) left irc: "Leaving." [17:26] perhaps you need the appropriate permissions? [17:27] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:27] _newbie4 (n=fabio@host75-237-dynamic.11-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [17:28] compl3x: thx [17:28] no worries - [17:30] anyone know how to have multiple wallpapers on fluxbox - ( multiple monitors ) [17:31] Rat409 (n=greg@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [17:33] ivan8013_ (n=ivan8013@72.252.61.9) joined ##slackware. [17:36] session.screen0.rootCommand: fbsetbg -l [17:36] session.screen1.rootCommand: fbsetbg -l [17:36] thats how i belive [17:37] http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=Howto_set_the_background [17:37] bottom of the page [17:38] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.71.201) joined ##slackware. [17:39] ah cheers toastytoast [= - thought it was something along those lines [17:40] np google is my friend :) [17:40] and yours too [17:40] toastytoast: I did google :P - my problem was initially setting the background :p [17:41] ah i see [17:41] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-170-205-67.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:41] stillbor1 (n=blow_my_@YMMCXLI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:42] you can always blame the evil inja monkeys [17:42] ah awesome - you can choose the display :p [17:42] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-170-205-67.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:42] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.154) joined ##slackware. [17:43] Hmm how do I set my second display with DISPLAY=.. :/ [17:44] hmm interesting [17:46] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:46] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: "Leaving" [17:49] Action: compl3x is starting to wish he never shaved his chest. [17:50] shaved your chest??!! why? did you have lice? [17:50] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@72.252.61.9) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:50] no Im just unnaturally hairy in that department- was drunk - thought it would be a laugh [17:50] turns out it wasn't [17:51] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [17:51] lol sorry :P [17:51] :p [17:52] I've stopped watching James Bond movies when Daniel Craig appeared bare-chested in Casino Royale [17:52] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-170-205-67.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:52] haha [17:52] he completely broke off with the others by shaving his chest and legs [17:53] lice is not like an STD, you can get lice from a pet or most animals, even birds carry lice, thats how most people get lice [17:53] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.154) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [17:53] His legs aswell? [17:54] heh - must have a hugge penis [17:54] it seemed so from what I remember [17:54] _newbie4 (n=fabio@host75-237-dynamic.11-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "byez" [17:57] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("mIRC"). [17:57] Rat409 (n=greg@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.7-dev" [17:58] WillDanceForPeso: I probably shouldn't be curious about how vividly you remember Daniel Craig's penis... [17:58] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [17:58] :D [17:58] <_guitarman_> LOL [17:59] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.192) left irc: [17:59] <_guitarman_> i think its likely he hit enter before seeing compl3x's text about weiner... he was probably responding to the shaved legs bit [17:59] Anakin- (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [17:59] <_guitarman_> but it makes for a good laugh [17:59] My logs state otherwise. [17:59] <_guitarman_> LOL! [18:00] judequinn (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [18:00] _guitarman: you just ruined that for me ;p [18:00] thanks :p [18:00] I don't understand [18:00] compl3x: He ruined Daniel Craig's penis for you? That's too bad... :( [18:00] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:01] ok, I'll stop the insinuations... [18:01] my first language is french and sometimes I have trouble in english [18:01] eviljames:. Yes. [18:01] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:01] WillDanceForPeso: The timing of the commentary lended itself to an easy quip. [18:01] s/lended/lent/ ? [18:01] Action: eviljames 's first language is english even... [18:02] lent intself.. [18:02] thx [18:03] <_guitarman_> i think the french to english is cute... my friends wife is french - she will say things like - The brother of Steve (for steve's brother) ... I think its cute cause in french thats how you say it but in english saying it that way works but its not really the way to say it. [18:03] Rat409 (n=greg@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [18:04] _guitarman_ totally agree with you - have the same sort of situation :p [18:04] rvo (n=rvo@67.159.26.22) joined ##slackware. [18:05] <_guitarman_> but I don't judge cause if I talk french I wouldnt be understood at all. i am always nervous going into the french coffee shop around the corner from me... i don't want to disgrace them so i just talk in english - which i think also annoys them... sigh - no winning that one. [18:05] I wish you were a girl _guitarman [18:05] <_guitarman_> lol [18:05] for $500, hell be what evveerrr you like ;) [18:05] <_guitarman_> lol ummmm. no. [18:06] <_guitarman_> someone chimes in: every man has his price.... [18:06] and for 500¬ ? [18:06] _guitarman_ You remember our agreement...- yes you will :p [18:06] mikearr (n=miker@pool-96-228-142-210.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:06] <_guitarman_> oh look what you did... you scarred mikearr away even. [18:07] eleventy billion dollars [18:07] wolven (n=wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) left irc: Read error: 111 (Connection refused) [18:07] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [18:07] nod, he left to get some cash and buy you :) [18:07] <_guitarman_> that sounds about right Pig_Pen [18:07] Nick change: Drgb -> BOFH [18:07] mikearr (n=miker@pool-96-228-142-210.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:07] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [18:07] brb - lol [18:07] $600 - My final offer [18:08] no [18:08] ;) [18:08] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:08] okay okay $600.50 [18:08] you lot suck... i've an american lady, my mum is french, but it's not the same as having some fit french bird with a french accent and latinised pronounciations... [18:08] :( [18:09] hahaha!! [18:09] sorry :/ [18:09] :p [18:09] rvo (n=rvo@67.159.26.22) left irc: Client Quit [18:09] it's easy to meet such girls, they're everywhere ;) [18:09] nah, i'd laugh at me too... for now [18:10] ivan8013_ (n=ivan8013@72.252.61.9) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:10] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:11] Nobody here but WillDanceForPeso and I speak french? [18:11] Really? [18:11] why i can ping an ip, but i can't ssh to it? [18:11] I speak fluent french, and fluent lies. [18:11] ping uses different port than ssh [18:11] WillDanceForPeso: ils sont stupides! :P [18:11] LnxSlck: your are on the correct port right [18:11] i figured WillDanceForPeso to be mexican or spanish (peso is a mexican dollar) [18:11] comme si je ne parlais pas français... [18:11] compl3x, yes.. i'm trying to connect to a friend's pc [18:12] well pinging won't really help with ssh [18:12] Pig_Pen, rather french canadian ;) [18:12] rvo (i=c85527b6@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0d6db91b24ff17d7) joined ##slackware. [18:12] gboxx (n=gboxx@cmnz-4dbd8d81.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:12] rvo (i=c85527b6@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0d6db91b24ff17d7) left irc: Client Quit [18:12] compl3x, but at least i know i can "reach" it [18:12] Camarade_Tux: Oh! C'est bon ca! (je n'avais pas une clavier avec le c) [18:12] but... on the other hand i'm about to do the manitou springs incline in about 20minutes! going 1 mile into the the sky... it's like a stairway to heaven [18:12] compl3x, but the question is why not ssh to it ? [18:12] LnxSlck: Fair point - he has started ssh right [18:12] yes [18:13] www.inclineclub.com/incline [18:13] LnxSlck: is he behind a router? [18:13] compl3x, yes [18:13] eviljames, éèçà :) [18:13] LnxSlck: fwd the port 22 of the router to the machine [18:13] jogging all the way up that [18:13] eviljames: I was getting there :p [18:13] Camarade_Tux: Those all showed up as ? for me hah [18:13] compl3x: I knew you were, I just type faster so I figured I'd get it out of the way for you [18:14] btw, some ISP block certain ports [18:14] LnxSlck: Just make sure port forwarding for port 22 is enabled [18:14] eviljames : I know :p [18:14] eviljames, you need to tell your irc client to use UTF-8, not ascii :) [18:14] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host75-237-dynamic.11-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:14] compl3x, to the local ip right? [18:14] LnxSlck: His LAN IP [18:14] compl3x, thanks [18:14] So when you send requests to the router it doesn't ignore them - it pass's them onto his pc [18:15] Camarade_Tux: Yeah, but bothering to so much as disconnect from the screen session is too much work for me. My laziness knows no bounds. [18:15] WillDanceForPeso: Is that true in quebec? [18:15] what is? [18:15] WillDanceForPeso: Because it makes the Quebec internet situation even worse than I imagined it (blocking ports) [18:15] eviljames, well, you can do it now and next time it will be set :) [18:16] so far I've only been with Videotron [18:16] vastina: Your a women right? wanna' explain why a women will want to speak to you - then not bothering to turn her bloody phone on? :p [18:16] and Videotron doesn't allow its customers to host ftp, http, etc. servers [18:16] Camarade_Tux: First I have to run screen -U instead of simply screen, I think. [18:16] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "pebkac, id-10-t clicked the X ^_^" [18:17] WillDanceForPeso: tabernacle! [18:17] compl3x: I am not a woman, what compelled you to think i'm a woman, other than talking too damned much [18:17] <_guitarman_> bad battery life compl3x? she works in a hospital? [18:17] you can always use an alternative port, but I don't know what's going to happen if the ISP finds out [18:17] vastina "i've an american lady, my mum is french" [18:17] WillDanceForPeso: That's pretty bad in terms of service imho [18:18] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.56.83.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [18:18] i like to know who the women are because not many women use linux, i am not interested in hooking up with them since i am married already [18:18] yeah... indicating i have a cock, that would presumably go into my lady [18:18] eviljames, hum, right, that makes too many things, I wouldn't do it either ;) [18:18] very bad [18:18] vastina: Miss-read it haha [18:18] ;) [18:18] Pig_pen: Same - without the marriage [18:19] Camarade_Tux: if it was just /set term_type utf8 or whatever I'd probably do it... but even that seems like a lot of work.. [18:19] but i can answer your question, it's because she's a spineless coward whose too bitch to say what she feels to your face, yet in isolation feels strong enough to ignore you wondering why she actually have you her mobile [18:20] */have/gave [18:21] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.56.83.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:21] vastina: Ive been going out with her for a year and four months - if she wanted to say that im sure she would have sad it a few months back :p [18:21] oh, i didn't read further back, soz [18:21] :p [18:21] haha see shes brainwashed me to remember how long ive been seeing her [18:22] Lectus (n=quassel@189.105.15.38) joined ##slackware. [18:22] well, maybe she's more intrigued by something else other than her mobile when you call her [18:22] could be bad timing, she could be working another lad [18:22] who knows [18:22] compl3x: it'll be easier to forget those details once you pass the 3 year mark. [18:22] eviljames: haha words of experience [18:23] eviljames: haha [18:23] Dudes, my gf is a slackware user. Marriage is in the works. [18:23] eviljames: i'm sorry, you need to give up the fiance... [18:24] eviljames: Well, she isn't slackware user by her own choice is she? It's like saying, my wife "loves" she kitchen just because I chained her there [18:24] cmk_zzz: I tried giving her ubuntu on grounds that she could manage the computer herself. [18:25] cmk_zzz: I was DOOMED, she demanded slackware back. [18:25] eviljames, I'm going to fly to canada and steal your wife ;p [18:25] Somewhere there's a picture of her and I floating around.. Camarade_Tux if you see that you'll start saving your money for a plane ticket. :P [18:26] <_guitarman_> lucky dawg eviljames ... my wife is a windows user for life i figure... but my kids are on slackware [18:26] hmm, i wouldn't want a linux woman unless she kept the reception, kitchen, and bathroom more tidy than her very tidy / [18:26] there's nothing wrong with windows (besides the cost) [18:26] <_guitarman_> ducking for cover [18:26] Hell linux is my escape - why would i introduce her to it? [18:26] w2k and somewhat xp, vista is something else [18:27] actually come to think of it, i wouldn't want a computer woman at all, if she doesn't run, and gets fat and heinous on me, i'll go postal [18:27] WillDanceForPeso: I'd respectfully disagree on that one. I can see the validity to your point, but I'm pretty sure we're all here because there are many things wrong with Windows. [18:27] vista is actually the biggest pile of shit ive ever had to work with [18:27] <_guitarman_> i dont use windows cause i have supported it for 10 years now [18:27] to get to network connections you have to open 4 other network windows first o.0 [18:28] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-75-249.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:28] i read that critics say win7 is not much better than vista, thats a good way to win over the xp users [18:28] eviljames, I've started looking for it ;) [18:28] Heya,folks...How's everyone? [18:28] wolven (n=wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined ##slackware. [18:28] gooph (n=chatzill@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:28] <_guitarman_> its faster and looks more like kde4 [18:28] hey MLanden [18:28] <_guitarman_> but ... its still windows [18:28] _guitarman_: Pretty much their whole thing is a knockoff of kde4 [18:28] heya,compl3x [18:28] true true [18:29] there will be the usual string of vulnerabilites as will all windows, why change a tradition of building crappy vulnerable bloatware [18:29] I've had nothing with trouble with Vista, w2k and Windows 7 worked out of the box and they were stable enough not to restart the computer even once [18:29] Its getting bloated - Open a window! [18:29] [Arch_Slax]Draco (n=Draco@121.70.234.21) joined ##slackware. [18:29] nothing but* [18:30] Action: Camarade_Tux wants waitpid() on windows [18:30] hey it's like their current campaign.... experience a world without walls *TM*... [18:30] and I was pleased with its responsiveness [18:30] so no problems on my part [18:30] ...well if i'm not mistaken, in a world without walls, what would windows do? [18:30] "a world without walls" means "there's nothing to keep other people out of your computer" [18:31] in a world without walls, windows crash [18:31] hey Urchlay [18:31] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:31] or possibly "everyone can see what you're doing all the time" [18:31] compl3x [18:31] Urchlay: yeah <3 samba [18:31] haha [18:31] windows crashes with or without walls :D [18:31] peacenik (n=cypherpu@142-217-82-152.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [18:31] eviljames, you mean that one http://eviljames.net/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3854&g2_serialNumber=2 ? [18:31] nah, my windows are secured in teh fortifications of linux and openbsd [18:32] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:32] ...so for the first time in 2 days I can sort-of breathe through my nose [18:32] (at least, one nostril) [18:32] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-170-205-67.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [18:32] anyway everyone have a good weekend, i am about to run a mile into the sky so, see you Monday unless i get bored [18:33] vastina: you'll be out of breath when you get there? [18:33] whoah,Camarade_Tux.....scary....=-O...lol [18:33] after a week or rain it is getting sunny = hot and humid and the mold spores are on the rise [18:33] MLanden, notice the domain : eviljames.net ! [18:33] Camarade_Tux: so i saw ...;) [18:33] Urchlay: www.inclineclub.com/incline [18:34] going up that [18:34] lee_ (n=lee@24-178-190-45.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:34] that looks more like something you climb, not run up...? [18:35] well, i got it to a slow jog [18:35] on the way back down it's probably murder on your ankles, hm? [18:35] Nick change: lee_ -> lee555J5 [18:36] Urchlay: just go down slow and bend your knees so you're not too harsh on the joints [18:36] trust unless you're completely toned, your legs will feel a bit wobbly [18:36] eviljames: Your blog: I could basically come to your house - thanks for all the directions and shit :p [18:37] anywya I'm off! [18:37] laters [18:37] vastina (n=vastina@206.105.111.187) left irc: "up the incline" [18:37] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-163-10.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [18:37] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:37] compl3x: I have a blog? [18:37] heh [18:38] your link ^ :p [18:38] I have a link? [18:38] sec [18:38] AGAGAGHAHAHAHA WTF! Camarade_Tux That's quite the image! [18:39] ...can I assume this is something I don't want to be curious about? [18:39] I can't believe there's another eviljames out there... and they own all the domains! [18:39] stillborn (n=blow_my_@KMMCMIV.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [18:39] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:39] haha [18:40] "Ypu [18:40] yeah? [18:40] ergh. Can't type. "You're good james, I'm baaad james!" [18:40] quite [18:40] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:40] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427949.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:42] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [18:42] I've been evil james since I was knee high to a grasshopper... I'll get these identity theives someday! [18:43] I'm sure that if you post a picture of your girlfriend, you'll magically get the domains back :) [18:43] mmhmm true that [18:43] (1600x1200, bmp and naked -_- ) [18:44] Nick change: lee555J5 -> lee555J5_ [18:44] Who is a perl guru here? lol [18:44] http://imgur.com/Im2Q [18:44] http://imgur.com/Im2Q.jpg [18:44] DOMAINS PLEASE [18:44] eviljames : Well done :p [18:44] she has a beard ! :o [18:45] Camarade_Tux: Yeah, but I like the fuzziness :P [18:45] err, wait, maybe it's me you're referring to [18:45] eviljames, yeah :D [18:45] (sorry... >< ) [18:45] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [18:45] eviljames, the domains are coming, the need some time you know, DNS propagation -_- [18:45] Nick change: lee555J5_ -> lee555J5 [18:45] lf4: What are you trying to figure out? [18:45] compl3x: I'd nominate her for offical slackware mascot if she'd allow it. [18:46] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:46] :P:P [18:46] glarb (i=1000@68.43.104.151) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:46] MLanden: I'm trying to convert a multibyte file to unibyte. Basically removing the /x00 extra byte. [18:46] compl3x: But she's fiesty and might slap me around a bit for the suggestion. [18:46] Just how I like 'em. [18:47] MAKE THE SUGGESTION [18:47] :p [18:47] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [18:47] eviljames, yeah, we can nominate her ! we'll put her photo on the slackware DVD ;p [18:47] You'll have to pay for the rights to her image, though. Models don't come cheap! [18:47] (trust me, they really, really don't...) [18:48] btw, you guys all owe me $1.00 per fap. [18:48] :p [18:48] lf4: perl -ple 'BEGIN { undef $/ } s/\x00//g' [18:49] eviljames, no no, we agreed you would get the domain ;) [18:49] ahhh, right. [18:49] er, use like this: perl -ple 'BEGIN { undef $/ } s/\x00//g' input.txt > output.txt [18:49] Urchlay: Surely there must be a better way to achieve that goal? [18:49] for some definition of "better", surely [18:49] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-113-163.lijbrandt.net) left irc: "never push the red button... never... oops..." [18:49] I mean, wouldn't something like sed -i -e 's/\x00//g' file.txt work? [18:50] assuming sed supports \x00 syntax, sure (I can never remember) [18:50] i dont fap, my wifey takes care of that for me :D [18:50] Urchlay: I'll give that a try. :) [18:50] he said perl, so I gave him perl... now that I think about it, the BEGIN { undef $/ } is unnecessary [18:51] perl -i.bak -ple 's/\x00//g' file.txt # does it in-place, renames original file to file.txt.bak [18:51] Pig_Pen: That doesn't exempt you from providing eviljames.net to me. [18:52] thanks Urchlay I was forgetting the /g at the end. [18:52] i dont own any domains, i use Linux because i am too poor to pay the microsoft tax [18:53] I use Linux because I believe software should be libre! [18:53] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:53] am i the only one that uses linux becauses i like it ? [18:53] Probably. [18:53] LnxSlck: no. I like it too [18:53] nice [18:54] I use opensolaris instead @ work now. [18:54] although part of what I like about it is the free/open nature of it... [18:54] laters all [18:54] bojevnik (n=Bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [18:55] compl3x (n=compl3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "Leaving" [18:56] mziulu (i=52555923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-071f1a41ed917355) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [18:57] Action: Camarade_Tux --> bed [18:57] of course i like linux, and agree that software should be free as in beer and libre, but i am still just a poor working man just barely keeping the wolves away [18:57] good night everybody :) [18:57] yay works over... :) time to drive home. [18:58] I think I'll fap on eviljames's girlfriend before I fell asleep [18:58] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [18:58] oh, did I say that loud ? :D [18:58] hahah [18:58] Camarade_Tux, whats that? [18:59] LnxSlck, that what ? [18:59] eviljames's girlfriend [18:59] http://imgur.com/Im2Q.jpg [18:59] very nice girl [19:00] =) [19:00] hahah [19:00] I'm the one with the black hair [19:00] She has the beard [19:01] lool [19:01] what is written on her t-shirt btw ? [19:01] Camarade_Tux, "do me" [19:01] lool [19:01] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-170-205-67.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:01] lol ;p [19:02] well, I really need to go to bed, good night everyone :) [19:02] good bye [19:02] Camarade_Tux: It sais "The Black Dahlia Murder" [19:02] eviljames, thanks :) [19:03] Action: Camarade_Tux is trying to umount an external disk on windows [19:03] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-6-192.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:03] that bloody sucker just tells me "the device is in use"... [19:03] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-10-144.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:04] mziulu (i=52555923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c5a958b0109a98c3) joined ##slackware. [19:05] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:07] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:08] oh, that's just sweet [19:09] beloved slack borked again while copying data from ext3 to ntfs [19:10] i really want to believe it's the unholy ntfs-3g, but ... that happens not only with ntfs [19:10] :\ [19:10] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [19:11] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:12] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [19:12] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleep" [19:13] chowabunga (n=chowabun@c-98-230-190-106.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:13] be more specific, what exactly got trashed? Linux or your ntfs disk partition? [19:13] or just the data getting copied to ntfs? [19:14] 4str 4stam leather belt [19:14] Lectus (n=quassel@189.105.15.38) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:15] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.90.90.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:19] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:21] zlinux[] (n=zlinux@79.172.164.249) joined ##slackware. [19:21] hi [19:22] how to start a service in slackware? [19:22] Pig_Pen, not sure. it just threw some backtrace at me while copying files with mc. when i tried to start mc again comp froze. [19:22] for example mysql server, how to start it? [19:22] nothing to trobleshoot here. just complaining :\ [19:22] zlinux[]: /etc/rc.d <- check that folder [19:22] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.74.29) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:23] eviljames, then? run /etc/rc.d/rd.mysqld script? [19:23] with start option? [19:23] like /etc/rc.d/rd.mysqld start [19:23] ? [19:23] zlinux[]: yes [19:23] eviljames, it says permission denied [19:23] do it as root zlinux[] [19:24] i'm root [19:24] as root, and is it +x ? [19:24] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Operation timed out [19:24] do i need to chmod it +x ? [19:24] zlinux[]: also it's rc.mysqld not rd.mysqld [19:24] bojevnik (n=Bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:24] yes rc sorry [19:24] i meant rc [19:24] zlinux[]: Yes, chmod +x [19:25] evenin',firebird619... how're you? [19:25] Hey MLanden. Doing great, how are you? [19:25] firebird619: Doin' great thanks [19:26] MLanden: btw, the scanner worked fine today, not sure what was going on with it last night. One of those weird flukes I guess. :P [19:26] firebird619: maybe a HAL fluke [19:26] after starting mysql, it starts but then it quits !!! [19:26] MLanden: could be, but at least for now, it's working. [19:27] firebird619: Great to hear [19:28] why mysql quits after i start it? [19:29] [Arch_Slax]Draco (n=Draco@121.70.234.21) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [19:29] do i need to run the script in teh background? [19:29] should i add "&" after the command when running /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld ? [19:31] rc.mysqld has some instructions in its comments for setting it up if you're running it for the first time [19:34] zlinux[]: a decent readme http://slackwiki.org/MySQL_Configuration [19:37] /cl [19:37] and out of curiosity, where exactly did this teh=the originate? [19:38] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:38] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [19:40] chopp, thanks [19:40] thanks alot all [19:40] chopp, lol [19:40] you're welcome [19:41] chopp, teh is just typo for the ;) [19:41] t3h [19:42] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:42] anca ouya eakspa uckda atinla? [19:43] duck? 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[19:46] chopp: clean spark plugs in a diesel engine repair shop ;) [19:48] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [19:51] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:51] Actor Kiefer Sutherland has been charged with assault following a late-night altercation at Manhattan nightclub on Monday. must have been a 24 flashback ;p [19:52] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:53] WillDanceForPeso (n=Administ@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [19:54] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:55] esom (n=enigma@222.172.214.185) joined ##slackware. [19:56] hi [19:58] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [19:58] Pig_Pen: maybe he's reprising his 'Doc' Scurlock character..;) [20:00] could be [20:00] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [20:00] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:03] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.19.13) joined ##slackware. [20:05] _guitarman_ (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: "Leaving." [20:05] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [20:06] superGear (i=1000@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:07] grr no released native version of openoffice 3.1 (swedish) [20:09] http://download.openoffice.org/other.html scroll towards the bottom of the list, i see swedish [20:09] oops you said 3.1 [20:10] test34_ (n=alexb@user-142g4f9.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [20:10] Anybody tried running Windows 7 rc in kvm 85? [20:10] nope [20:11] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.94.134.34) joined ##slackware. [20:11] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:11] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:11] superGear (i=1000@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:11] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:11] Old_Fogie: wb [20:12] hidee ho :) [20:12] Action: firebird619 waves hello to Old_Fogie. [20:12] Old_Fogie: How are you? [20:12] doing good firebird619 and you [20:12] Old_Fogie: doing great, thanks. [20:12] got my keg guy coming tomorrow I hope [20:13] Old_Fogie: nice [20:13] fix my keg-err-tor [20:13] Old_Fogie: keg of what?...:D [20:13] yeah, looks like I'm gonna have to buy another keg, but could be worse [20:13] prunes [20:13] MLanden, heiny's [20:13] XGizzmo_, har har harrrr dee har har :) [20:13] :) [20:14] thokling (i=1000@S0106000347c4a44e.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:15] Hello! I'm having an issue getting par2cmdline to compile - getting "reedsolomon.cpp:54: error: too few template-parameter-lists" [20:15] Running Slack 12.2. [20:15] Old_Fogie: btw, that laptop deal didn't happen. The guy called and said he's using it again and now his other one's broke. :P I don't think he was telling the truth and sold it to someone else or something. :P [20:15] I noticed on the Web a log from this channel noting a patch for GCC, but I haven't been able to find a reference to it on the Web. Any thoughts? [20:16] panzer (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [20:16] XGizzmo_, question for you on avahi, other than putting in the domain that your pc uses in /etc/avahi/avahi-daemon.conf ; are you supposed to fill out the hosts file? The avahi seems to see other pc's, but if I double click on them, then it says 'no address for host'. yet, I have the name/numbers in /etc/hosts. I'm using nautilus, but never got that to work right. any ideas? it's not a big deal, if I type smb://ip.... i [20:16] t works, but not by the zeroconf [20:17] firebird619, ah, well I think in these hard times, you'll probably find one on the 'cheap' soon [20:17] All of my windows VMs stopped running with kvm 85 [20:17] They just freeze at boot-up [20:17] What the freak.. [20:18] XGizzmo_, but zeroconf browser seems to work, as I can see a network printer/officjet [20:18] Old_Fogie: Oh yeah, I'm keeping my eyes open for good deals. :D [20:18] firebird619, same here, yard sale season coming up ( /me does the pee wee herman dance ) [20:19] Old_Fogie' [20:19] Old_Fogie's Big Adventure! [20:19] thokling, :) [20:19] Action: MLanden nods toward Old_Fogie.........'Tequila' [20:22] Old_Fogie: haha, same here, this Saturday is the city-wide rummage sale. There's not many rummages, but enough. :) [20:22] MLanden, you drinkin 'teqqi's now? it's only thursday ? :) [20:22] Old_Fogie: nah,just responding towards your Pee Wee Herman response..:D [20:22] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-157-55.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:22] lol [20:22] i wish ifconfig had more clearly defined documentation as to the specific commands [20:22] Has anyone heard of a GCC4 patch that might help me out? [20:22] ifconfig's manpage is somewhat vague in some aspects [20:22] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Connection timed out [20:22] Pig_Pen: "ifconfig --help" or "man ifconfig" [20:22] not enough specifics [20:22] already been there and done that [20:22] maybe if you asked an actual question... [20:22] ok [20:23] if i want to tell ifconfig to use a certain wep key [20:23] ifconfig ral0 essid myessid (is good) [20:24] bah! i would need to reboot to freebsd, or get the handbook to look it up again [20:24] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) joined ##slackware. [20:24] BSD uses different commands and syntax [20:25] on linux, there's also iwconfig [20:26] even the freebsd handbook is not specific enough [20:26] Old_Fogie: you have an mDNS stack installed? [20:26] i did have wpa_supplicant set the way they say to do in the handbook and it was not working, [20:27] XGizzmo_, yes I put that in since we last spoke a while back. [20:27] i will wait until this weekend when i feel like tinkering with it again [20:27] XGizzmo_, so I no longer get a message in /var/log/messages telling me to install the mdns [20:27] XGizzmo_, I built the mdns after avahi, that 'seems' to be the way it's supposed to be done. [20:27] sidmario (n=sidmario@201-43-55-25.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: [20:28] VampirePenguin (n=Vi3PP@h96-61-180-166.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [20:28] XGizzmo_, it's not listed in the avahi README at SBo ..so I tried building it both ways, installing and no diff. [20:28] how to determine gateway's ip address from captured arp packets? [20:28] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-157-55.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: "rcirc on GNU Emacs 22.2.1" [20:29] superGear (i=1000@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:30] or how to determine gateway ip address via tcpdump? [20:32] XGizzmo_, basically if I open nautilus, I see the other pc's, I see that they have the scp, sftp zero conf available, as those are installed with the avahi package preconfigured. so it would appear that , at least that part is working. seems that the name to IP resolution is not working for me, under gnome, (which I know isn't your target audience) but just wanted to let you know what I'm experiecing. I'm still muscling m [20:32] y way thru their doc's tho. Perhaps, I have to add all names/ip to avahis hosts file. Probably the easiest routte I suppose. [20:33] Yeah thats beyond what I am able to test locally. [20:34] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.42.234) joined ##slackware. [20:34] I though it was just "plug n play" [20:34] superGear (i=1000@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:34] XGizzmo_, understood. "plug n play" yeah supposed to be. [20:35] XGizzmo_, what's interesting is, if you build kde 3.5.10 it doesnt see it. it asks for apple rendezvous mdns, which I thought avahi and that mdns was a replacement for. [20:35] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:35] yeah I know, thats why I started on it in the first place. [20:36] XGizzmo_, I compared my configs line by line to debian, and for all intensive purpses, they're the same. [20:36] it's probably something in my gnome that's missing [20:36] I never did get it to work, but did n ot want to orphan the slackbuild [20:37] well, even if it doesnt give me "zeroconf" that's fine, as it's a must have build depend for gnome so I still need it, even if it just sits there and takes up hd space. [20:37] Don't mean to flood, but I'm reposting my inquiry :> [20:37] Hello! I'm running Slackware 12.2, GCC 4.2.4. I'm having an issue getting par2cmdline to compile - getting "reedsolomon.cpp:54: error: too few template-parameter-lists". I heard there is a GCC4 patch that might help me out. Any thoughts? [20:38] Jean (n=jean@93-36-227-101.ip62.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:38] it's not like I got 100 pc's here or something, I know the IP's of each off the top of my head, and with nautilus it's just the wife using it, so I made "bookmarks" for the other pc's so she clicks that and it jst works, XGizzmo_ [20:38] yeah [20:39] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [20:39] superGear (i=supergea@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:39] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:40] esom (n=enigma@222.172.214.185) left irc: "leaving" [20:40] I wonder if you have to have the autoip stuff enabled for that to work. [20:41] XGizzmo_, the avahidnsdaemon yea I'll look into that. 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[21:07] http://www.nyblom.org/pub/slackware.png [21:07] im getting ready to install 12.2... after i install it do i have to upgrade packages at all... or is that done with each release with no mods made between releases [21:08] cool pic toastytoast [21:08] there are small updates and packges [21:08] VampirePenguin: upgradepkg to all the packages in patches/ [21:08] ty Pig_Pen [21:09] VampirePenguin: you can use slackpkg to upgrade all the packages if you want as well [21:09] antiwire: is that an option in the install process or command line after done [21:09] after [21:09] ok [21:09] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/patches/ [21:09] actually http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/patches/packages/ [21:10] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:11] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [21:12] you know actually thats raises a valid question atleast imo since slackpkg isn nolonger in /extra does that make it officially part of slackware? [21:12] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [21:12] yup. sure does [21:12] umm [21:12] wasn't officially a part of slackware when it was in /extra? [21:12] lol [21:13] well i mean like you use dot have to choose to install it now it installes by default [21:13] if it comes on the official media i'd say it's officially official.... [21:13] whatever the hell official means [21:14] it means you dion't need black magic and sorcery to use it? [21:14] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMz2KoIxWIY cigarbox guitar anyone? [21:14] It helps though [21:14] black magic and sorcery helps w/ everythign [21:16] never hurts to have a cajun voodoo priestess around to spill some chicken blood aroud [21:18] You never know what Bob will demand. [21:19] nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) joined ##slackware. [21:21] HEY! That electromagnetic spectrum pic was made by a Vancouverite! [21:21] thokling: do you have a fever? [21:22] does anyone here use encfs/fuse for an encrypted container [21:22] VampirePenguin: I just use LUKS for my / partition [21:23] Why? Did I say something obvious? [21:23] Action: chopp fires a skud from edmonton to vancouver. [21:23] chopp: This coming from someone whose province hosts Canada's only naval fleet. [21:23] ive used that in past.. but i have a whole mess load of data in encfs/fuse [21:23] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) left ##slackware. [21:24] yeah, i just found it on some website and saved it to post at imagebin, i packrat away all sorts of photos i like [21:24] PuroOsso (n=PuroOsso@189.61.82.141) joined ##slackware. [21:24] PuroOsso (n=PuroOsso@189.61.82.141) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [21:24] Ficthe (n=grieve@cpe-24-92-71-240.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: "379" [21:26] goatdog (n=goatdog@tn-74-4-34-143.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:26] thokling: are you watching your hometeam vs chicago? [21:26] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [21:27] chopp: No, I don't bother with spectator sports. Same reason why I don't watch porn. ;> [21:28] slacknode (n=m@c-71-56-242-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:28] okibisan (i=1000@24-158-197-146.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:28] antiwire: What was that fever comment in reference to? [21:28] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.75.199) joined ##slackware. [21:28] well putting it like that, van has chicago bent over the kitchen table. [21:29] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:30] lol, are you watching it chopp? [21:31] firebird619: yes I am. [21:31] Gun_Smoke (n=S@fsf/member/GunSmoke) joined ##slackware. [21:31] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:31] lee555J5 (n=lee@24-178-190-45.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) left irc: "leaving" [21:32] anyone know if we'll see an official 64bit slackware with 13.0 or shortly after? [21:32] lee_ (n=lee@24-178-190-45.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:32] hmm seems like debian is getting a bit away from more gnu stuff just a bit which seems a bit odd considering you know that it was a GNU project at one time [21:32] evening.. I've installed 12.2 to a VirtualBox.. I'm attempting to install the guestaddions but for some reason or another the normal method of mounting the iso is not working as it should. Does anyone know of where I can download the iso from to manually mount it? [21:32] okibisan: we won't know until it coems out just like most people well there is a few that know your question but probably will not say anything about it :) [21:33] Nick change: lee_ -> lee555J5 [21:33] kitche: i was assuming i would get that answer, but hoped a PM would pop up ;) [21:33] Gun_Smoke: any of the numerous mirrors? [21:36] antiwire, I'm looking at the site (virtualbox) and I cna't find a list of mirrors [21:36] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:37] Marshal Dillon says to look at the CD/DVD section in the tree, make sure it is enabled [21:37] Gun_Smoke: why don't you just download from the place you downloaded it before? [21:38] http://dlc.sun.com/virtualbox/2.2.0/VBoxGuestAdditions_2.2.0.iso ? [21:38] and change the virtualbox guest edition to point to your slackware ISO [21:39] okibisan: yes, that's right provided Gun_Smoke's using version 2.2.0. [21:40] VampirePenguin (n=Vi3PP@h96-61-180-166.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6.1" [21:40] I am.. thanks for that link.. I was just browsing debians mirror and the iso was not listed there.. [21:40] i thought i saw 2.2.0 in he question... apparently i made it up, lol! [21:41] okibisan, welcome to old age [21:41] i am telling you the fix is in the cd/dvd part of the tree in the settings [21:41] btw, 2.2.2 is out [21:41] Old_Fogie: indeed, can be amusing at times [21:41] yes I call it "a moment" [21:41] :) [21:41] he accidently the whole thing [21:41] "a moment" in time where you lose your mind? [21:41] well I have several "moments" [21:42] brainfarts [21:42] firebird619, oh just wait, just wait ... :) [21:42] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! 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[21:55] it's pretty neat to hear them , done in old blues style [21:55] the doors took a few too [21:55] oh yeah, i can believe it, i have some old muddy waters and bb king, and i hear a lot of stuff in there that zepp was inspired by [21:55] yup [21:58] reading over the book.. it only mentions upgrading single packages from what I can tell.. Is there a similar utility to aptitude to update the whole machine? I figure there must be some security updates [21:59] okibisan (i=1000@24-158-197-146.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:59] slacknode (n=m@c-71-56-242-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:00] Gun_Smoke, if you look at any mirror in /patches/packages directory, ther'es not many. you dont have a *gazillion* packages on a Slack box like a debian per se'. So the updates issues by Slack are placed there, you just upgrade accordingly to the changelog. [22:00] ahhh.. [22:00] what is the suggested method of raid mirroring in slackware? [22:00] or linux [22:01] Old_Fogie, thanks [22:01] Gun_Smoke, no problem. [22:01] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:01] Gun_Smoke, you should however, be sure to download the CHECKSUMS.md5 and CHECKSUMS.md5.asc and gpg verify them, and md5 verify them as a good measure. [22:02] Old_Fogie, I usually do if they are around.. [22:03] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) left irc: "link closed" [22:03] Gun_Smoke, the reason you read the changelog he issues is, he may put some little blurb in there as a warning about a package, etc etc. So that's why it's best to read the changelog. You can't assume that the package is going to be smart. [22:03] Gun_Smoke, it's not common at all really for him to have a note, but it could happen. [22:04] Old_Fogie, fair enough.. this list is larger than I was expecting.. I'll have to figure out which ones I need or just go down the list I guess.. [22:05] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.205.248) joined ##slackware. [22:05] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:06] Gun_Smoke, the packages on your system are logged in /var/log/packages ; you can browse there with a file manager, even firefox with file:///var/log/packages :) or use pkgtool, your choice, but yes you have to determine what you do dont have. you could tho, put all the pax in one dir, and run "upgradepkg --dry-run *tgz |tee what-would-upgrade.log" and get a list of what will happen. [22:07] Gun_Smoke, see 'man upgradepkg' and you'll see what I'm talking about there. [22:07] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.12.229) joined ##slackware. [22:07] Old_Fogie, looking at that manpage at the moment :) [22:11] heya Old_Fogie:) [22:11] hello hitest [22:11] :) [22:11] good to see you man:) [22:11] same here, what's new? [22:12] not too much, trying to install freebsd 7.2 but it doesn't seem to support a USB mouse:( [22:12] oh well [22:13] sloinn (n=adam@84.19.44.79) joined ##slackware. [22:13] hitest: I'm having mouse issues in FreeBSD 7.2 also, in a VM. [22:13] usb/wireless [22:14] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.94.134.34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:14] maybe a gnome dev joined FreeBSD and thought a usb mouse might confuse users ? [22:14] :) [22:14] firebird619: yeah, I've usually installed freebsd on older units, but, tried today on my main slackware station, set-up dual boot w slack 12.2....sigh [22:14] the fix is in xorg.conf [22:15] i did it earlier to fbsd 7.1 [22:15] okay [22:15] X -configure [22:15] it works on cli for me tho fwiw [22:15] the mouse [22:15] then copy /root/xorg.conf.new as /etc/X11/xorg.conf [22:16] all righty then I'll try that when I sober up:) [22:16] ty [22:19] not too blasted atm...... just a buzz:) [22:19] Pig_Pen: I tried X -configure with 7.2 and that didn't fix my mouse issue. [22:20] Old_Fogie: My mouse works too in cli, but once x starts, it doesn't. [22:20] i got obliterated last night. it was a buddy's birthday [22:21] Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "False" ? something like that, my problem was with a usb keyboard, similar problem [22:21] Pig_Pen: Hmm, I don't have that in xorg.conf, maybe that'd fix it. [22:22] so that will allow a usb mouse? [22:22] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.92.86) joined ##slackware. [22:22] i am looking for the exact Option i added yesterday evening, my memory is not great right now [22:22] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "Here we go again..." [22:23] okay [22:23] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.42.234) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:24] Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "boolean" #This allows the server to start up even if the mouse device can't be opened/initialised. Default: false. [22:24] from 'man xorg.conf' [22:24] ah! [22:24] Option "AllowEmptyInput" "False" [22:25] thats the one! [22:25] so that will initialze a USB mouse daemon? [22:25] Thurin1 (i=Thurin1@ppp165.108-253-207.mtl.mt.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:25] support [22:25] it should, if not you may have to adjust the mouse section [22:26] okay [22:26] give it a shot, you have nothing to lose [22:26] use /dev/mouse [22:26] true [22:26] for device [22:27] Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" [22:27] Option "zAxisMapping" "4 5" [22:27] Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" [22:27] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@186.66.71.71) joined ##slackware. [22:28] fwiw, that didn't solve my mouse issue. [22:28] did you see my comment about "AllowEmptyInput" "False" ? [22:28] Pig_Pen: Yes, just tried it. [22:28] Gun_Smoke (n=S@fsf/member/GunSmoke) left ##slackware. [22:29] no joy then, darn! i am sure there is a fix for it, just that sort of thing is not always obvious [22:29] ge0rge007 (n=ge0rge@f71-17.fdsl.aegean.gr) joined ##slackware. [22:29] yeah, I've tried a few other things also, with no luck. I haven't asked about it in #freebsd yet though. [22:30] hello all! [22:30] ................. [22:30] ge0rge007: all is not in today [22:30] chowabunga (n=chowabun@c-98-230-190-106.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:30] :P! [22:30] Nick change: judequinn -> usus12jari [22:30] lol, yeah, check back tomorrow. :P [22:30] he has no been in in over a year. [22:30] i will sure check:D [22:30] thumbs: oh wow, it's been that long? [22:30] time for another beer:) [22:31] firebird619: yeah. [22:31] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:31] :) [22:32] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:32] i have been trying to get my wifi card to work in freebsd (wpa_supplicant) and it does not like my wifi card, i am going to try to write a rc.