[00:00] It seems to know everything [00:00] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [00:01] I wonder if KDE isn't reacting to it's presence for some reason... [00:01] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-52.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:01] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-19.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [00:01] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [00:05] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:07] ga_bash (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [00:12] wescotte (~wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Atheism is a non-prophet organization. George Carlin [00:13] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-167-231.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:16] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. 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[01:04] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!root@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [01:04] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:05] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.45.54) joined ##slackware. [01:07] I found out why HAL doesn't like my UPS... [01:07] huh? wait a sec... [01:10] Anyone know of any tools/tricks to detect snow in video files? I have a ton of old VHS-C tapes I'm digitizing and I'd like to find a way to easily chop out the excess snow between recordings and if the entire tape wasn't used. [01:10] wescotte: were you having trouble with a radeon hd card earlier? [01:10] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-24-12-213-191.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [01:11] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:11] mushy1 (~robin@adsl-68-89-189-100.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:12] NaCl: no but I did ask where the fglrx slackbuild went [01:12] hello i need to format the security stuff off of a 2gb kingston DTVP protected usb drive [01:12] so it works on linux and windows [01:12] how the heck do i get that security stuff off there [01:12] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:13] wescotte: vanished. It actually *should* work now [01:13] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:14] NaCl: the installer? [01:14] The slackbuild. [01:14] The installer works [01:14] Action: NaCl is using it [01:15] There hasn't been a slackbuild for fglrx on slackbuilds.org since 12.1.. I just used the installer and yes it did work [01:15] Bother the former maintainer [01:16] can anyone help me with a simple hack http://www.kingston.com/flash/DTvaultPrivacy.asp i want the security GONE with this device [01:16] i have the password [01:16] fat32 or ntfs it does not matter i need the security gone [01:16] what can be done [01:17] giuppy (~giuppy@host249-163-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:18] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:21] mushy1 (robin@adsl-68-89-189-100.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) left ##slackware. [01:23] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [01:28] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:28] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.45.54) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:29] hello everyone [01:30] hello mfillpot [01:31] macavity: I have been thinking about the freedesktop.org thumbnail proposed standard and there are some problems [01:32] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:32] macavity: I want your input on these ideas/thought, are you ready? [01:34] also I am looking for help on a script, this problem is probably very simple, but it is eluding me [01:35] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.54.113) joined ##slackware. [01:37] I have a script that when it runs it strips the double quotes from a variable that is being input into a command line argument, how can I preserve the double quotes? [01:37] just a sec [01:38] k [01:39] tmp="\"backtick quote\"" [01:39] try that [01:39] the other option to try is tmp='"test this"' [01:39] alisonken1home: I tried and it kept the \ in the output string [01:39] alicephilippa: I tried ' also and had the same results [01:40] mfillpot: $(echo -n "file:///yadi/yadi/yadi.jpg" | md5sum | cut -d ' ' -f 1).png yeilds the thumbnail name [01:40] the script is at http://pastebin.com/d3fd1ba3a [01:41] The issue with the script is that the double quotes in the TS variable are removed in the command [01:42] this is beyond my bashfu [01:43] macavity: that is it for the thumbnails, but the issues are thumbnail matenance and duplication of thumbnails for files in different directories or under different names [01:43] ga_bash (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:43] ga_bash (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [01:43] macavity: I am surprised you said that, this bash issue should be simple but it is so vexing [01:43] my bashfu isnt all that good [01:44] i can read and edit scripts.. but every time i write one from scracth, it is more like hammering cast iron into place [01:44] i am a C dude :P [01:44] lol [01:46] did you look at the ogg tools and see if you can add the extra info after transcoding to ogg format? [01:47] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [01:47] alisonken1home: yes, the extra info is supported, when I take the output line 79 and paste it into the terminal it works perfect [01:47] macavity: I didn't see anything in the proposal about thumbnail retention and the current method is open to duplication of thumbnails [01:48] it is [01:48] lolwut (1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:48] macavity: let me go back to it then [01:48] and if you rm something from the console, you get stale thumbnails lingering for ever [01:50] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:50] macavity: what I was thinking about retention is that they can apply a policy of having the apps touch the thumbnails after it call and have a method that checks all thumbnails every month or so for a set time of inactivity then removed the unreferenced thumbnails [01:51] s/after it/after each/ [01:51] alisonken1home: how are you liking the script, have you tried to run it? [01:53] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC300C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:53] mfillpot: you could try to propose that [01:53] macavity: what do you think about that idea/concept for retention? if they put the settings in a config file were the user can adjust the retention period then it really will trim the allocated space [01:54] sounds good to me [01:54] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [01:54] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [01:54] macavity: the other issue is with duplication, if a file has a copy by a different name or in a different directory, then the same thumbnail will be recreated [01:55] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [01:56] I'm doing a mini install of Slack, trying to download off of http/ftp, and I can't seem to remember how to write the URL for the servers, everytime I put something it keeps coming back wrong [01:56] macavity: if they would apply a method for calculating the sums based upon partial contents then it would avoid that issue, example head -c 1000 {picture}|md5sum [01:57] I thought for the first part I should use ---> ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/ Then for the second part ---> slackware64 [01:57] wouldn't that further increase the already excessively long time it takes to generate thumbnails? [01:57] Xgates: the server address should only be the server (example ftp://ftp.slackware.com), the directory address should point to the slackware directory and start with a leading / [01:57] no matter which way I try to make up and URL for that path nothing works [01:57] ahhh ok [01:57] mfillpot: having to read 1000 bytes of each file is not going to be popular with the users [01:57] mfillpot: i think most people would rather do some disk cleaning once in a while than have slow thumbnail lookup [01:58] LSD`: that is why I was looking at partial information, with 100 bytes it still generates quite quick and I have not yet experienced duplication [01:58] I have tried it on ~100 files so far [01:58] so then like this? [01:59] ---> ftp://ftp.slackware.com THEN ---> pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/slackware64/ [01:59] mfillpot: try it with scattered images [01:59] Xgates: line 2 should start with / [01:59] ok [01:59] mfillpot: that is, make sure there is a disk seek between each file, and see :P [01:59] brb [02:00] andarius (~andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: yes, I have lost my mind. this is ntohing new as it happened at birth [02:00] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-52.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:01] Well I've tried this now and still no go... :( [02:01] ftp://ftp.slackware.com then ---> /pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/slackware64/ [02:01] and then I tried at the end also /pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/ [02:01] Action: Xgates bangs head [02:01] Xgates: make the second entry /pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/slackware [02:02] ok [02:02] Xgates: it may or may not need a trailing slack, I can't remember [02:02] k [02:02] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-105.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [02:02] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [02:02] macavity: I ran it over 4 directories and it still performed very quickly with no duplication [02:03] macavity: do you think that the 100 byte read time would make too much of a difference in speed? [02:03] militant (~militant@173-81-26-5-pkbg.atw.dyn.suddenlink.net) left irc: Quit: yeah [02:04] I typically have something like REPO='http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net' BASE='/pub/slackware/' VER='slackware64-13.0' ; wget ${REPO}/${BASE}/${VER}/slackware/ [02:04] alisonken1home: I think he is trying an ftp install [02:04] should also work with ftp [02:05] but ftp typically also requires a login where wget doesn't [02:05] and wget will also support ftp protocol as well [02:05] I generally use http for the installs off of a mirror server, usually tds.net [02:06] mfillpot: bbiab [02:06] macavity: k [02:07] Xgates: are you trying to d/l and install each package in turn, or just d/l the entire tree before installing packages? [02:09] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:09] I was going to do a mini install BUT it looks like now from what I see and should of seen before is that Slack is using an older kernel that doesn't support my nic on my laptop [02:10] well, that can cause issues [02:10] I'll just have to forgo the mini install and grab the dvd and then install a newer kernel [02:10] later guys and thanks [02:10] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Timeout ( 0 Seconds ) [02:10] ok [02:11] nothing like a quick exit [02:14] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.54.113) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:19] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [02:23] mica__ (~chatzilla@124.43.40.36) joined ##slackware. [02:25] mica_ (~chatzilla@124.43.50.60) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [02:26] Nick change: mica__ -> mica_ [02:26] slava_dp (~slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. 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[02:45] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [02:46] won't know until you ask them why they say you're a spambot [02:46] could be nothing more than you sent one email to 15 recipients at once one time [02:47] fs_ (~fs@60-234-232-70.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [02:49] hm.. I changed my "real name" setting and now I can get into DALNET [02:49] I fixed my own problem [02:49] Breech_ (~Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:49] usus12jari (~ashe@114.56.210.43) joined ##slackware. [02:50] Breech_ (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [02:50] there you go - someone must have pwned your nick [02:52] correcaminos (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:54] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:57] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-52.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [02:57] obnauticus (~obnauticu@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:59] alienBOB: In order to get vdpau enabled on vlc using your vlc script, do I just need to have the nvidia drivers and change ./configure to have --enable-vdpau ? [02:59] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-174.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:10] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:10] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [03:12] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. 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Banning. [03:22] Ronalee (~Ronalee@72.22.151.176) joined ##slackware. [03:22] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@72.22.151.176' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [03:22] Ronalee kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: join flood [03:23] linXea: it appears that way [03:23] gbaker (~gbaker@ppp121-44-206-38.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [03:23] ##slackware: mode change '+o alienBOB' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [03:23] Ah, he went already [03:23] Boom! [03:23] ahh. [03:23] Im not used to be highlighted here on ##slackware =P [03:23] alienBOB: he did keep coming back though. [03:23] damn idiots [03:24] alienBOB: i really like that slackboy hates auto-rejoin :P [03:24] slackboy handled him. :) [03:24] well bots [03:24] fs_ (~fs@60-234-232-70.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:24] chopp: but idiots behind the bots. [03:24] alienBOB: In order to get vdpau enabled on vlc using your vlc script, do I just need to have the nvidia drivers and change ./configure to have --enable-vdpau ? [03:24] indeed [03:24] alienBOB: have you built anything kde related with gcc 4.4.3? i tried building latest ktorrent and beta k3b yesterday and both failed but didnt have time to investigate why [03:24] fire|bird: isn't that related to a vulnerability in BitchX? [03:24] Reticenti: as far as I know, yes [03:24] nyRednek: not that I'm aware of, no. [03:25] It isn't really a vulnerability that I know of, just people with bots joining various channels and spamming all the nicks in that channel. [03:25] sahk0: I just built all of KDE 4.4 on slackware-current [03:25] fire|bird: ok...i remember there was some vulnerability in BitchX that allowed arbitrary execution of code on user's machine [03:25] alienBOB: because i did that, and when i built it, it didnt have vdpau, (as far as i'm aware) [03:25] so i dont know if its related to gcc or something else. but both seemed like automoc errors but automoc is latest version [03:25] hmm weird [03:25] i ll try again in the afternoon [03:26] Reticenti: then you'd have to ask on #videolan perhaps, as I do not test vdpau [03:26] ah, ok, thanks alienBOB [03:26] alienBOB: I've been messing with KDE 4.4 rc3 on my openSUSE drive, it seems to have a bit of a bug, the cpu usage will randomly shoot to 100% and sometimes everything freezes on me. It seems other's have had that too, but not sure if it's KDE 4.4 issue or just distro specific with openSUSE. [03:27] pseudonymous (~icarus@nat-wireless.itu.dk) joined ##slackware. [03:27] Reticenti: did you install the nvidia drivers from the run file or the SlackBuilds? [03:28] pprkut: from the run file [03:28] pprkut: does it work if i do it from sbo? [03:28] The-Croupier (~The-Croup@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [03:28] salut salut [03:29] fire|bird: I am running KDE 4.4.0 for the past days, on Slackware of course, and have zero issues [03:29] hi The-Croupier [03:29] salut [03:29] Reticenti: likely no. I see no reason why it shouldn't work with the run file [03:29] fs_ (~fs@60-234-232-70.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [03:29] yeah [03:29] is 4.4.X so much better than 4.2.4 ? Is it worth the trouble building (on slackware stable) [03:30] how is it going guys.. [03:30] i can get vdpau in mplayer, but it didnt compile in when i tried it for vlc [03:30] then I suppose it's a vlc issue [03:30] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [03:30] linXea: yeah, even from 4.2.x to 4.3.x was quite an improvement. [03:30] if one wanted to look for IT jobs in usa...especially in california.... where would one look? [03:30] The-Croupier: india [03:31] you can make a sign that says "will code Perl for food & beer" and stand on the street [03:31] :) [03:31] lol [03:31] thanks for your information [03:31] pseudonymous (~icarus@nat-wireless.itu.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [03:31] fire|bird, okay.. well, always a hazzle building KDE it seems (ex. CRUX user). [03:31] The-Croupier: in all seriousness, the market is flooded [03:31] how would I easily extract only the directory names from the output of the find command? [03:32] linXea: Yes, I've built KDE as well before, it's a daunting task. [03:32] mfillpot: -path ? [03:32] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Quit: Smoke my bones [03:32] I'll stick with this old one for now... never had any issues (installed the day 13 was released, and haven't had a single freeze since)) [03:32] mfillpot: have the find command only look for directories? find /whatever -type d [03:32] pseudonymous (~icarus@nat-wireless.itu.dk) joined ##slackware. [03:32] Demarco (~Demarco@72.51.91.252) joined ##slackware. [03:33] alienBOB (~alien@h202078.upc-h.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [03:33] alienBOB (~alien@h202078.upc-h.chello.nl) left irc: Changing host [03:33] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [03:33] alienBOB Demarco pseudonymous Azeotrope fs_ The-Croupier gbaker s0d0 agentc0re Breech_ CtrlAltCa sahk0 fAu powtrix usus12jari mohaa smzz slava_dp mica_ darkwurm lolwut ga_bash mfillpot [03:33] Nick change: Demarco -> Guest47270 [03:33] ilj giuppy paissad ThomasLocke alisonken1noc cryptic0 wescotte hayaka slackwarebob ut Stx PenPerk epoch Xires thumbs sluttyduck emma dchmelik chopp foobarz Greyhound_ Bugz necropresto [03:33] test34 dhabyx alisonken1home GooseYArd glarb mario snL20 linXea notKlaatu dErFz Kaapa fuzzix macavity Agiofws Plasmastar Zosma straterra nyRednek shadowx bgeddy nix_chix0r pprkut [03:33] not again.. [03:33] waabimiigwan (~steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) joined ##slackware. [03:33] righteous byteframe edman007 e01 mrpwnage Mick_ _slax0r_ phrag paul424 pupit madbear errordeveloper Ephedrax F15ch3r stybla pipes petaflot nooper lyminsk Kamel _theradar Steaki bjqrn [03:33] we got another spammer... [03:33] lol [03:33] Azalyn dtanner rapid janemba Kowalczyk cmeow jareth_ Weird0ne Tyrael dive Reticenti Guest72049 dTd zaltekk chess Alan_Hicks XGizzmo thrice` PiterPunk vbatts crudo eviljames simplex [03:33] sitwon plee shalkie cyb3r3li0g aceofspades19 Bugz_ plutonium lf4 Euthanatos gnrp stillborn TClayton icarus slackboy Camarade_Tux Asmadeus TheGroove IrquiM PeanutHorst alicephilippa [03:33] ##slackware: mode change '+o alienBOB' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [03:33] Deiz jescis RaNdY theblackbox redtricycle croto Rint__ invictus confusid rworkman pireau cybErpunk SlackNews fatalnix1995 web1109 Joker_-_ Skywise kloeri chuck56 SIGBUS_ Richlv RJz0r [03:33] NaCl Budd^ mshade toast10101 engrxyz Scuzz jafnhar C00re mindbendr looker jumperboy OpenSys v3gard JJJunkk mishehu slackmagic rk4n3 MOVNTDQA boojit pragma_ jaskorpe CygnusX1 spook [03:33] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@72.51.91.252' by alienBOB!~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [03:33] Guest47270 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned [03:34] He'll get another IP [03:34] I am trying to get the paths of each directory that holds a certain type of file [03:34] ty alienBOB [03:34] The-Croupier: i think Monster Board and Step Stone is covering USA also.. [03:34] now he's trying to get other usernames banned [03:34] alienBOB: i guess the whole /24 subnet is next. ;) [03:34] alienBOB: ok, probably a distro specific issue, I haven't seen a solution at all for it, but it is sure annoying. [03:35] ah - the bot has returned and got banned again [03:35] eh, what was the point of that? [03:35] alisonken1noc: try sitting in #freenode for a day, it's even worse. [03:35] script kiddie learning curve? [03:35] fire|bird: easy solution, don't use Suse :P [03:35] fire|bird: I have enough fun with my noc :) [03:35] trying to highlight everyone so they'd all be looking when it finally said whatever spammage it was trying to say? [03:35] alisonken1noc: yeah...and he is behind the curve [03:36] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [03:36] pprkut: hehe, it's been nice using it to keep up with the 4.4 cycle, building it is quite cumbersom here and takes a while, I need more machines with icecream setup. :) [03:36] I'd say he's not even starting the curve yet [03:36] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:36] alisonken1noc: i'd be inclined to agree [03:37] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [03:37] tewmten: thank you ;) [03:38] fire|bird icecream cluster ftw! :D [03:39] what is the purpose of saying all those names anyway? [03:39] pprkut: indeed :) The machines I do have are 2 desktops and one laptop, one desktop with Arch, this desktop with SuSE and Slack, and laptop with SuSE. [03:40] fire|bird: infidel... :P [03:40] haha [03:41] gbaker (~gbaker@ppp121-44-206-38.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:41] The-Croupier: also just google for like "IT jobs California USA" and I'm sure you find some job sites :) [03:41] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-15-86.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:41] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:41] macavity: I have slack in a VM and on a second drive in this machine, I love it, I can't ditch it, ever. :) I'm a half-infidel :P [03:42] halfidel? [03:42] haha, yeah. [03:42] fire|bird is a double agent :O [03:42] secret|agent|bird [03:42] i know for sure that Arch will bite his ass sooner or later [03:43] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [03:43] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-132-187.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:43] tewmten: yep, that is for sure, i was just wondering if there was a more concentrated/already known site that everyone knew.. thanks though... i understand perfectly ;) [03:43] macavity: You see it's logo, a jagged A, reminds me of an Arrowhead, it won't bite me, it'll stab me. :P [03:43] it is whatever he gets sucked into the convenience harlottetry that SuSE tempts him with... [03:44] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [03:44] no matter how much they stick "open" in front of the name, it is still Novel [03:44] dont forget that ;-) [03:44] it is the-dark-side-by-proxy [03:45] lol [03:46] hard to see, the Dark Side is [03:46] Breech_ (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:46] hey bacteriostatic|eclipse's [03:46] err Urchlay [03:46] no.. "if it walks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck"... [03:46] hey, attenuators|buck [03:47] Breech_ (~Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [03:47] Kaapa (~Something@bl10-136-25.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:47] if like walks it duck a... eh, how would Yoda say that? [03:47] vehn_z (~vehn_z@62.133.183.91) joined ##slackware. [03:47] walks like a duck does it yes? [03:48] Kaapa (~Something@bl6-198-99.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [03:48] english I failed, 800 years ago [03:48] walks like a duck does it, yes? talk like a duck does it, yes.. a duck then it is, yes? [03:49] *quack* [03:49] probly you're right [03:49] Action: macavity shoots [03:49] Action: fire|bird ducks [03:49] and covers [03:49] is anyone good at scripting in here? [03:49] I was always annoyed, you can't shoot the dog in Duck Hunt... [03:49] mfillpot: what flavor of scripting? [03:49] Urchlay: bash [03:49] Urchlay: yup, no matter how many times you aim and pull the drigger. [03:50] mfillpot: oh, man.. i totally forgot you.. i was playing my peice in a mighty drama in -offtopic :P [03:50] sorry [03:50] Urchlay: yet if you failed the level, the dog just killed over. :P [03:50] mfillpot: lots of people in here that know bash pretty well... what's the question? [03:50] mfillpot: I understand bash, but depends on what you're doing [03:50] macavity: that is ok, I got my original scripting question answered, but I have a new one now... I can discuss the thumbnails issue with you later [03:51] roger [03:51] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:51] I am now looking to use the ouput of find in a for loop, but some files and paths have filesnames, I want the for loop to treat each line as a string [03:51] mfillpot, #bash [03:52] mfillpot: -print0 might come in handy [03:52] mfillpot: and xargs -0 [03:52] also "xargs -0" [03:52] slava_dp: no need, someone in here knows the answer [03:52] right, what he said [03:52] wescotte (~wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:52] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [03:52] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [03:53] mfillpot: find [args] -print0 causes all the strings to be terminated with \0 (C style) [03:53] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [03:53] actually, unless you have filenames that actually have embedded newlines in them, "find /whatever | while read file; do some_command "$file"; done" will work well enough [03:54] Urchlay++ [03:54] I'm one louder now! [03:55] no, you are one dan bigger than me at bash-fu [03:55] hash bang slash bin bash! [03:55] yarvin (~yarvin@49-217-58-66.gci.net) joined ##slackware. [03:55] i always try to hammer bash into being simpified C.. which causes it to just become complexified bash :P [03:56] good description [03:56] C programmers and bash dont mix... the lunartic who wrote sh was used to cobol [03:56] Urchlay: I am a little lost about your explanation, then I try it in the for loop it give be a command substitution error [03:56] but meh.. csh is even worse :P [03:57] mfillpot: what command(s) are you trying? [03:57] mohaa (~nome@92.49.73.16) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [03:57] Urchlay: http://pastebin.com/d625a675e [03:58] eh, not quite what I meant [03:58] Urchlay: that is what I figured by the output [03:58] find /shared/music -name *.mp3|grep -v "/lol/" | while read file; do echo "$file"; done [03:59] (might want to use -iname instead of -name, in case you have files named .MP3 [04:00] Urchlay: the full method I am attempting it to get the unique directory names for all files that are output [04:01] -type d? [04:01] didn't someone say to use the -path option to get directory names? [04:01] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:01] if that works, pipe it to "|sort -u" to get rid of duplicates [04:02] ##slackware: mode change '-o alienBOB' by alienBOB!~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [04:03] hm, -path doesn't do what you want [04:04] find somewhere -iname *.mp3|xargs dirname |sort|uniq > somewhereelse.result [04:04] yeah, that looks good [04:05] I came up with: find . -name \*.mp3 | sed 's,/[^/]*,,' | sort -u [04:05] but yours is a lot more readable [04:05] but wouldn't that still give me the same issue with spaces in the names? [04:06] yeah. So you'd use: find somewhere -iname *.mp3 -print0 | xargs -0 dirname |sort|uniq [04:07] plus the |while read file; do some_command "$file"; done [04:07] how 'bout this one: find ./path -iname "*.mp3" -exec dirname {} \; | sort -u [04:07] :) [04:07] (depending on that you actually wanna do) [04:09] it looks like tewmten got it [04:09] actually. What the heck are you trying to do? Just find out the names of all the dirs that have mp3s in them, or do something with all those dirs? [04:10] Action: tewmten sips some more coffee [04:10] to knowing what you need to do is half the battle [04:10] the other half is writing the damned pipeline [04:10] :) [04:10] or just bash the keyboard randomly like a monkey high on glue [04:10] man i'm so tired [04:11] tewmten, swedish ? [04:11] indeed [04:11] Urchlay: I will pass the dirnames as arguments to another script [04:11] oh, first swede I've ever seen in here =) [04:11] linXea: oh really? [04:11] we're everywhere in here [04:11] C00re wake up you fat slob [04:11] gyroscope (~master@85.104.69.12) joined ##slackware. [04:11] =P [04:11] gyroscope (~master@85.104.69.12) left irc: Changing host [04:11] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [04:11] hm [04:11] where's ziL and Captain_RedBeard now then.. [04:12] anyway there _used_ to be alot of swedish in here :) [04:12] So we are a few swedes here =).. cool [04:12] linXea: you're swedish also? [04:12] japp [04:13] ok [04:13] Action: fuzzix is thinking about moving to Sweden [04:13] Action: tewmten moved out of sweden a bit over three years ago [04:13] Action: linXea still lives in Sweden =/ [04:14] Action: Kowalczyk lives in norway [04:14] Well, I need more coffee, take care all o/ [04:14] Kowalczyk: kempegreit~! [04:14] hoho.. [04:14] norwegian [04:14] such a language [04:14] sounds like happy swedish gnomes [04:14] :D [04:15] tewmten: hehe:D I know.. Norway is a boring country [04:15] hahahaha [04:15] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-196.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:15] but you're not norwegian? [04:15] yes I am norwegian [04:16] ah ok [04:16] hehe.. [04:16] born and raised in norway :D [04:16] gotcha [04:16] Morn [04:19] morning Zordrak [04:19] Well shit, talk about timing... our NetBackup renewal is due and we're not gonna pay it... but theyve JUST released v7 in time for me to pick it up :) [04:20] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:20] mohaa (~nome@92.49.73.16) joined ##slackware. [04:20] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.54.113) joined ##slackware. [04:22] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [04:22] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [04:23] Aaaand Monday morning strikes again. I hadnt had any kind of crash on kde4.2 for a LONG time.. a few days after updrade to -current and boom goes kde4.3 [04:23] tewmten: from your last syntax how and where would I add an exclude argument? 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[04:34] Zordrak: interesting, I upgraded -current on my home machine a couple of weeks ago and still going strong - even with the wife hitting hulu.com, facebook, juno, and some other stuff [04:35] all i had open was tb & ff [04:35] went to da a mark-all-read in tb and the whole thing died.. no response from anything except the mouse cursor still moved [04:35] alisonken1noc: oh, your home machine is a 8GHz quad-core with 64MB L1 cache and 4TB RAM? =) [04:36] I wish - lenovo dual-core 64-bit from about 5 years ago [04:37] or was it 3 years ago? lost track of time on it [04:37] mohaa (~nome@92.49.73.16) joined ##slackware. [04:37] john_dee (~id@95-29-144-151.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:42] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [04:43] zecafig (~zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) joined ##slackware. [04:43] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [04:50] IBM number one. [04:54] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.214.246) joined ##slackware. [04:55] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: I'm done for now [04:58] ritschropf (~ritschrop@g225064238.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:58] does anyone know any european webshops where i can order a Cheburashka plush toy? :D [04:58] awhut? [04:58] smzz (~7ccf90c2@gateway/web/freenode/x-ajwdfzxfkeebdcqc) left irc: Quit: Page closed [05:00] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheburashka [05:00] it's an character from old russian kids story [05:00] Breech_ (~Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [05:01] oh. [05:01] then no. :) [05:02] too bad.. i want to get one for my g/f in valentine gift :P [05:02] Breech_ (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [05:02] lolwut (1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:03] sh0ne (~sh0ne@93.87.105.89) joined ##slackware. [05:03] tewmten, hahaha, why would you want one :D [05:04] for the g/f [05:04] she loves cheburashka :) [05:04] tewmten, http://kpoxa.kharkov.ua/product_info.php?products_id=1178 :-) [05:04] kids in soviet union grew up with that fuzzy little furball [05:05] ah nice one [05:05] .ua, what's that?! [05:05] ukrania? [05:05] tewmten, ukraine. [05:05] ok [05:05] brb, coffee [05:08] mohaa (~nome@92.49.73.16) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [05:12] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [05:14] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-434172.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [05:15] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-434172.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:15] ga_bash (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:18] eddief (~root@pool-141-157-205-182.ny325.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:18] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!root@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [05:18] eddief kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [05:22] _RadioHead (~slack@217.170.244.2) joined ##slackware. [05:23] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@72.22.151.176 expired. [05:23] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@72.22.151.176' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [05:23] anyone who lives in usa... what are some of the isp companies? which do you consider the "best" most reliable? [05:24] (none xD ) [05:25] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [05:25] Isn't that pretty standard across the world ? There's none.. Or you can sign up with ISPS which offer enterprise equipment and guarantees (for enterprise prices!) [05:26] pretty much [05:26] or become an ISP yourself [05:27] - or setup a box as a GW/router and buy multiple connections across different ISP's/transmission mediums :P [05:28] If it's anyway like here, you'll most likely experience that ISP's are pretty much equal in terms of stability. Most likely one company owns the infrastructure where you live and others simply rent it. [05:28] i see.. i thought that happened only in greece :( [05:28] well, infrastructure (wire/cable) is a little expensive to run [05:29] not exactly like premise wiring [05:30] mohaa (~nome@92.49.73.16) joined ##slackware. [05:34] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@72.51.91.252 expired. [05:34] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@72.51.91.252' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [05:36] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [05:37] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:42] huh I suppose the american internet is build on locale isp ... so they cannot list all in your stete/ council , I am right ? [05:43] great ;) [05:44] if i wanted to know how they work.. or see some examples... what would be some of their names or something... to see what exists around ? deals....etc.... [05:44] im thinking of moving there in the near future...but i dont want to start learning everything from scratch..when im there... i want to have a small idea from before ;) [05:46] The-Croupier: seems you are in country which does not require visa to usa ... [05:47] paul424: im not exactly in the country the /whois says ;) but yes..i dont require a visa ;) [05:47] that is another story ;) [05:48] Action: paul424 check whois [05:49] Arno[Slack]`Work (~adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) joined ##slackware. [05:49] paul424: check irc mask ;) [05:49] uhh I [05:50] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [05:50] sorry, uhh ... how I can check internet mask , and how can I check your country then / [05:51] paul424: you dont need to ...;) one of the first rules of security is "ask" ;) usually works ;) [05:52] Action: The-Croupier remembers big organisations being hacked through their smart smart reception [05:52] paul424: i live in greece ;) [05:52] but still i dont need visa i need a job before i get there ;) [05:52] no, I'm just courius. Ohh you suffer from the EU high taxes. No wonder you want to migrate. [05:52] i am an organising, security phreack [05:53] paul424: no i suffer from "cannot stay in one place, if that place has nothing else to offer me" [05:59] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.57.195) joined ##slackware. [06:02] l700bluetooth (~l700bluet@205.Red-88-26-179.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [06:02] Last time I checked was May 2009. Does the ralink rt2860 chipset supports master mode now? I mean can it be used as an AP??? [06:07] Milencho (~milencho@mahagonny.GISC.Berkeley.EDU) joined ##slackware. [06:07] Milencho (milencho@mahagonny.GISC.Berkeley.EDU) left ##slackware. [06:14] pseudonymous (~icarus@nat-wireless.itu.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:18] i_like_2_roam (~ivy@adsl-70-234-180-32.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [06:19] zk (~zk@125-236-161-142.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [06:19] :) I just discovered something I feel reasonably odd :) [06:19] Anyone here still using Slackware 12.2? [06:20] macavity (~macavity@212088073001.static.sonofon.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [06:20] zk: in places [06:20] not anymore [06:20] Zordrak: would you mind checking the dependencies of firefox-3.0.16, underslackware? [06:20] nagios is on a 12.1, mail server and name server are 12.2 [06:20] specifically, crashreporter. [06:20] Several of it's dependencies are unresolved. [06:20] uh.` [06:20] they are GNOME centric, too [06:20] libORBit, libgnomevfs [06:20] etc [06:21] dependencies?? [06:21] moment. [06:21] Could I please troll this channel? [06:21] yozzer (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [06:21] mica_: Since when do you ask you douchebag? [06:21] zk@io:/usr/lib/firefox$ ldd crashreporter | grep 'not found' libgconf-2.so.4 => not found libORBit-2.so.0 => not found [06:21] orite [06:21] sec [06:21] just find that odd, that's all. [06:22] considering Slackware is an anti-gnome system, really. [06:22] i_like_2_roam (~ivy@adsl-70-234-180-32.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:22] that the 3.0.16 package, from slackware itself, needs GNOME libraries... [06:22] zk: yes.. but firefox is a packaged binary [06:22] ORBit, gconf, etc. [06:22] its as mozilla ship it [06:22] Ah, I would have figured Pat would have compiled it. [06:22] my bad. [06:22] :) [06:23] im guessing that it has fallback positions for whatever isnt available [06:23] if you recompile FF you have to call it iceweasel [06:23] or whatever [06:23] yes, crashreporter needs gnome libs iirc [06:23] bon echo? [06:23] :P [06:23] and I've never seen it on slackware [06:24] what, crashreporter? [06:24] or the libraries? [06:24] or maybe: crashreporter was the crasher =) [06:24] hahahaah aye [06:24] I haven't used any GNOME stuff, which is why I find it weird :) [06:24] Just t hought you guys would be interested, is all :) [06:25] bonobo-activatio, etc. [06:25] stupid Mozilla... [06:26] Also need to find out what apparently provides libodbc(inst)?.so [06:26] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [06:26] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [06:27] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [06:28] /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.16/components/libnkgnomevfs.so , too [06:28] libmozgnome.so, etc [06:28] I wonder if I can just remove htem [06:28] :P [06:29] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-87-191.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [06:29] Nick change: mica_ -> NiCA [06:37] moin [06:38] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-61-140.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:38] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.106) joined ##slackware. [06:40] asamoah (~caio@190.244.48.8) joined ##slackware. [06:41] zk (~zk@125-236-161-142.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:43] Nick change: NiCA -> Mona [06:44] Blue_Slacker (~Blue_Slac@217.219.147.114) joined ##slackware. [06:46] fs_ (~fs@60-234-232-70.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [06:46] hi all [06:53] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-58-181.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [06:53] Axius (~fd@92.84.30.130) joined ##slackware. [06:53] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [06:54] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-sxwlhlwrhcteuvrh) joined ##slackware. [06:55] hey all. any gnome slackbuild users here? the power manager inhibit applet doesn't do anything except change the icon. anyone heard about similar issues? [06:58] kslen, have you tried getting help at #gsb? [06:58] Blue_Slacker (~Blue_Slac@217.219.147.114) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:59] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [07:00] gtludwig, yes, but i can't send to channel -.- [07:00] odd, what about gsb forums? [07:01] gtludwig, i'm about to head that direction. i'm a sucker for quick fixes, so i figured i'd try here first. [07:01] gtludwig, thanks for your interest though. :> [07:02] weirfghliewugfh (~ksljdbfvi@68.232.112.232.dynamic.dejazzd.com) joined ##slackware. [07:02] mohaa (~nome@92.49.73.16) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [07:02] no biggie =) sorry I couldn't help, thought [07:02] thought* [07:02] hello #slackware [07:02] typo! [07:04] tewmten: what!!!!!!!11111one [07:04] :D [07:04] Plasmastar (plasmastar@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [07:06] Blue_Slacker (~Blue_Slac@217.219.147.114) joined ##slackware. [07:07] C00re: :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:DDD [07:07] ^^ [07:08] i can not use su i get this error how i can repair it su: Authentication failure [07:10] Blue_Slacker: you forgot your root password? [07:10] Using Slackware Blue_Slacker? What version, and what other software did you install recently [07:11] adaptr: no , i intered it true [07:11] Blue_Slacker: nevertheless [07:11] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:11] alienBOB: i now start use slackware i am a biggenr [07:12] perhaps green_slacker would have been better ? [07:12] Blue_Slacker: you installed Slackware (full install, all packages) and have not added more software yet? No Gnome? [07:13] alienBOB: ok [07:13] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [07:13] erm [07:13] What, "ok" It was a question [07:13] alienBOB: no any pkg [07:13] Please, try to give a better answer [07:14] Your english is not so good, so your answers are not so useful if you use only short sentences [07:14] alienBOB: i install full slackware and not installed new pkg or gnome i have kde [07:14] OK [07:15] Then running "su" and entering the root password should work [07:16] If it does not work for you, then I do not know why it fails if you type the root password [07:16] what about the capslock? did you try the password with the capslock on, that is a gotcha for when people forget about that [07:17] i can use su out of kde in alt-ctrl- f1 but in kde can not use [07:17] "Authentication failure" has only one cause [07:17] i can think of two [07:18] what's the second ? [07:18] pseudonymous (~icarus@nat-wireless.itu.dk) joined ##slackware. [07:18] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.214.246) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:18] one is when the wrong password is entered, and two is when they are not really using slackware and using _some_other_ distro that has disabled su/root [07:18] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:19] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!root@* expired. [07:19] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!root@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:19] _RadioHead (~slack@217.170.244.2) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:19] Blue_Slacker (~Blue_Slac@217.219.147.114) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:19] that's not an actual cause :) plus, it will NOT say "Authentication failure" if su/root is not enabled. unmembership of wheel groups causes it to say that, not authentication failed [07:19] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [07:20] ah, ok [07:21] And, he left already. No use pursuing it further then [07:21] hmm slackware doesn't constrain su, it seems - all users can su [07:22] there's no need to be in wheel [07:22] That's why you have to create a /etc/suauth and limit that [07:23] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:23] you mean I should, or I have to if I want to limit it ? [07:23] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [07:23] gm152 (~gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:24] gm152 (~gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [07:24] You only have to do that if you are afraid the other users on your system will try hacking root [07:24] I always setup a /etc/suauth and /etc/sudoers - out of habit [07:24] they're all me, so I guess that's a "yes, very afraid" [07:24] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:25] SOUL_OF_R00T (~1001@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [07:28] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [07:29] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [07:30] i have a problem with the web cam on my noye hes is working better fo sometime buy in yhe lasy week the device cannot work fine, i try remove eith to de dev and restart dbus and hal but this not solve the problem if anyone to help i apreciate and very, very thanks do it... [07:31] um [07:33] Plasmastar (plasmastar@unaffiliated/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [07:34] i remember over the principe of a use the devfs these made devices automaticaly [07:34] are you using google translate ? [07:34] no [07:35] sounded a bit like it [07:35] SOUL_OF_R00T: what, exactly, changed ? pastebin the relevant dmesg lines [07:36] also, you removed a /dev entry - did you know why ? [07:36] the various usb streams give me an error during boot process caling -110 [07:37] urp [07:37] sounds almost like a stream-of-consciousness type thing [07:37] adaptr: i dont know if he's suddenly being serious about some real issue.. but the dude is a known troll [07:38] ah [07:38] thanks for the hint [07:38] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-204-136.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [07:40] sh0ne (~sh0ne@93.87.105.89) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:42] Arirang (~koolaid@c-24-21-186-231.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:43] SOUL_OF_R00T, you've been banned on #slackware-br .. watch out! or else you gonna be banned here too. ( I hope so) [07:43] http://pastebin.com/m5ce5505d [07:43] eh, how come vifm is not on slackbuilds.org? :0 [07:44] zecafig: infinite regress.. bob warns him.. he goes away and shuts up then he comes back for more warnings [07:44] l700bluetooth (~l700bluet@205.Red-88-26-179.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:44] Action: Zordrak is in a bad mood. Blame vodafone. [07:44] SOUL_OF_R00T: it can be hardware fail [07:44] SOUL_OF_R00T, install debian [07:44] Zordrak, :) [07:44] ubuntu, even [07:45] windows even [07:45] slitaz even [07:45] :) [07:46] icefusion (~icefusion@unaffiliated/icefusion) joined ##slackware. [07:46] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.54.113) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [07:46] but uber windows the webcam works fine [07:47] of course it does! [07:47] so stick to that [07:47] if UNDER windows it works, keep it working on windows! [07:47] SOUL_OF_R00T, so write a patch for the linux driver. [07:47] windows is the best! [07:47] slava_dp: you're scaring me [07:47] lol [07:48] hahaha, i just love saying hackish things! windows ftw! [07:48] hi people, which package I have to install first from SBo: nvida kernel or nvidia driver? [07:49] I guess kernel, but I have to ask [07:49] if it mattercs its in the readme [07:49] any [07:49] or it does-nt matter [07:49] slava_dp, if he write a patch....his note will explode xD [07:49] Zordrak: I have red the readme [07:49] does it say it matters? [07:50] nope [07:50] then it doesnt matter [07:50] Zordrak, maybe I don't know english very well, nvidia kernel says it need driver, and driver says it needs kernel [07:50] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [07:50] pupit: this could be taken to mean that you actually need both [07:51] gm152 (~gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:51] I know I need them both, [07:51] so install them both [07:51] but which one to install first, or it doesn't matter? [07:51] sbopkg -i nividia-kernel nvidia-driver [07:51] hello, Zordrak [07:51] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [07:52] sup [07:54] i need install radeon hd3200 driver here [07:54] Action: pupit two desperate video seekers :) [07:55] gm152 (~gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [07:55] pupit: you should long be installing. [07:55] pupit, i'm sure you are going to have more success with your quest. [07:55] indeed [07:56] adaptr: I just finished writing wall msg [07:56] wuh > [07:56] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [07:56] im ssh on some friends machine bugging with his graphic card.. [07:57] friend's* [07:58] Arno[Slack]`Work (~adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:58] kernel parts should be installed first [07:59] yay foobarz, thanks [07:59] foobarz: loaded first, sure [08:00] installation order does not matter, according to the slackbuilds [08:00] kernel modules often also provide the headers that the driver needs [08:00] although I installed via .run package from nvidia.com, I want to install it right on friend's from sbo [08:00] icefusion (icefusion@unaffiliated/icefusion) left ##slackware ("log off (acessem http://www.icefusion.com.br)"). [08:01] pupit: do not use the nvidia installer [08:01] adaptr: I know I know, mistake :'\ [08:02] what is wrong with downloading and using nvidia's installer ? [08:02] even though, everything seems fine on my machine, I only play urban terror.. [08:03] foobarz: that tickles me too [08:03] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[08:08] it does [08:08] just not 3rd party stuff since they are a pita to maintain [08:09] The-Croupier (~The-Croup@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [08:14] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:15] SOUL_OF_R00T (~1001@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [08:15] what a weirdo [08:15] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [08:16] i think he just has language troubles and can't express himself properly. [08:16] then how come he managed to get banned from #slackware-br as well ? presumably that is his native language [08:17] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:17] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [08:17] must have acted like a fool [08:17] Action: slava_dp likes to think positive of people... [08:17] adaptr: everyone have some problems [08:18] Axius (~fd@92.84.30.130) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:18] pfui [08:18] hahah [08:18] i've just been banned there too. automatically. what a kind channel. [08:19] slava_dp: international hosts are automatically baned [08:19] always look on the bright side of life. ta-ram ta-ram ta ra, ta-ra pa pam. [08:19] Action: slava_dp don't care [08:19] icefusion (~icefusion@unaffiliated/icefusion) joined ##slackware. [08:19] hi icefusion [08:20] necropresto, hey [08:20] necropresto, what's up [08:20] vixi [08:20] gar0t0, q q eh bicha escrota [08:20] huahua [08:20] icefusion: only english here [08:20] icefusion: english, please [08:20] omg [08:21] nannes (~nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [08:21] gar0t0, vixi -> it's not english dunce [08:21] _RadioHead (~slack@217.170.244.2) joined ##slackware. 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[08:28] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [08:30] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-9-254.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [08:30] hi guys [08:31] hi metrofox [08:31] hi pupit :-) [08:31] where are the foxes from metro :p [08:32] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [08:33] icefusion (icefusion@unaffiliated/icefusion) left ##slackware ("log off (acessem http://www.icefusion.com.br)"). [08:34] pupit, i would think you need to only update the driver version, the kernel interface stays. [08:34] SOUL_OF_R00T (~1001@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [08:34] slava_dp thank you :) [08:35] pupit: they're here :D [08:35] pupit, unless you rebuild/upgrade the kernel of course. [08:35] slava_dp: ofcourse [08:36] metrofox :) [08:36] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:37] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [08:38] I'd update both [08:38] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) joined ##slackware. [08:41] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [08:43] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [08:44] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:44] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:47] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: lunch [08:48] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:49] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-434172.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [08:49] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-434172.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:50] yozzer (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:51] usus12jari (~ashe@114.56.210.43) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:54] anybody OSSv4 swithers? [08:54] Action: slava_dp is going to go OSS when he upgrades his laptop [08:56] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [08:58] does OSSv4 work for hda_intel with nvidia's or realtek's ac97 codec? [08:58] are you trying to say they picked up development again after it was dead for 5 years ? [08:58] it has never been dead [08:59] it's been DEPRECATED in the kernel for a very long time [08:59] OSSv3, v4 is different [09:00] but presumably still the same product... [09:00] Arno[Slack]`Work (~adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) joined ##slackware. [09:01] oh good. a new way to completely confuse all attempts at unified sound architectures in linux and force all developers of all aplications everywhere to start from scratch [09:01] Action: Zordrak is still in a bad mood.... [09:02] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [09:03] when OSS was marked as deprecated, it was still working *WAY* better than alsa [09:06] nannes (~nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [09:07] dios_mio (test@88.243.193.29) joined ##slackware. [09:07] i installed debian, very good [09:07] OSSv3 was made deprecated for political reasons mostly. OSSv4 seems to be a huge leap forward in terms of sound quality. [09:07] dios_mio: good for u [09:07] sound *quality* ? trust me sound quality is in no way dependent on the mechanism used to shuffle it to the audio card's DA convertors [09:08] dunix (~dguitar@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. [09:08] you might want to read this article: http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2009/06/state-of-sound-in-linux-not-so-sorry.html [09:08] I will :) [09:12] nannes1 (~nannes@host-78-14-125-98.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [09:14] nannes (~nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:17] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:18] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [09:18] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.16.190) joined ##slackware. [09:18] Action: slava_dp wonders if oss.tar.bz2 in the pending queue is what he thinks it is.... [09:19] nyRednek: I am now [09:19] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-9-254.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: see ya [09:23] I need a fun. [09:24] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:24] slava_dp, good article [09:24] thx [09:24] Arirang, i read it back in october, liked it a lot. [09:25] Blue_Slacker (~Blue_Slac@217.219.147.114) joined ##slackware. [09:26] hay ppl PC BIOS is better than slackware , PC BIOS rocks! slackware sucks ! [09:26] we no understand your engrish [09:26] mona = mica_ [09:26] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [09:26] alienBOB: lil help? Mona == Intel[R]VT-x and has been trolling around for days.... again [09:27] Ach it is Intel[R]VT-x ? [09:27] yup [09:27] mona: was is los [09:28] keeps changing his name.. nick colouring script keeps tracking him [09:28] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [09:28] Mona Lisa lost her smile [09:29] He's a moron to put it lightly [09:29] The first time he logged into the channel he asked for OPs [09:29] :) [09:30] Blue_Slacker (~Blue_Slac@217.219.147.114) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:31] Blue_Slacker (~Blue_Slac@217.219.147.114) joined ##slackware. [09:33] Blue_Slacker (~Blue_Slac@217.219.147.114) left irc: Changing host [09:33] Blue_Slacker (~Blue_Slac@unaffiliated/blue-arch86/x-0115684) joined ##slackware. [09:33] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [09:34] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. 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[10:04] thrice`: very much not for slack though, right? [10:05] Not officially, no [10:05] alienBOB: i was under the impression that even unofficially was unlikely due to the amount of new deps/upgrades [10:05] I guess that 4.3.5 will be in -current anytime soon, but there is a bulk of other updates waiting to be released too [10:06] Action: GooseYArd snores [10:06] alienBOB, don't think so? I say forget polkit and push 4.4 out anyway :) [10:06] Zordrak: I have those built & ready... 32-bit as well as 64-bit. Just waiting for the KDE team to announce 4.4.0 [10:06] alienBOB: orite. [10:06] thrice`: no-go [10:06] alienBOB: any more news from pat's side on this one? [10:06] that critical, you think? [10:07] Zordrak: if he does not speak out publicly, I will not speak on his behalf either [10:08] thrice`: as far as I am concerned, KDE team made some bad decisions in 4.4 development (or allowed individual devs to add dependencies that should not be there) [10:08] alienBOB: kk [10:08] So, 4.4 will probably not be in Slackware [10:09] I agree, but the features we miss as a result seem minimal enough to just ignore it [10:09] alienBOB: he uses kde himself, right? [10:09] I believe so [10:09] hm. wonder when he's gonna get off the fence [10:09] KDe 4.5 perhaps? [10:10] In the meantime, I will release the unofficial KDE 4.4.x packages [10:10] maybe.. but i dont see them u-turning any time soon.. the decisions are made and bad or good.. people dont like changing their minds [10:10] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [10:11] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [10:11] people don't like admitting mistakes [10:11] the polkit author changes his mind quite regularly [10:11] There are some things on the slate for 4.5 that may fix the things that went wrong in 4.4 [10:11] thrice`: exactly [10:11] alienBOB: ok.. good to know [10:12] Action: Camarade_Tux switches back to twm -_- [10:12] do wish pat would be a liitle more communicative about his thinking [10:14] There is no Slackware roadmap. You get what it gives [10:15] alienBOB, tell Pat we want him to open a blog :-) [10:15] Haha [10:15] slava_dp: he's on twitter.. just doesnt say much about anything [10:16] You can poke him of course, see if he answers... but he is flooded with emails that are hard to answer in any give time, so yymv [10:16] Zordrak, i see "Happy 2010 for everyone out there in UTC!" [10:16] 5 weeks ago. [10:17] the i686 vs i486 was good [10:17] nannes (~nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [10:17] just a bit of "this is what im thinking about" [10:17] Blue-Slacker86 (~d9db9372@gateway/web/freenode/x-ggbazrliudvfyytc) joined ##slackware. [10:17] look, hes back going to turn into a circle, http://twitter.com/account/profile_image/volkerdi?hreflang=en [10:17] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) joined ##slackware. [10:18] Blue-Slacker86 (d9db9372@gateway/web/freenode/x-ggbazrliudvfyytc) left ##slackware. [10:18] his* [10:18] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:18] guax (~guax@189.4.99.110) joined ##slackware. [10:18] guax (~guax@189.4.99.110) left irc: Changing host [10:18] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [10:18] vehn_z (~vehn_z@62.133.183.91) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [10:18] nannes (nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left ##slackware. [10:20] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:22] Blue_Slacker86 (~Blue_Slac@217.219.147.114) joined ##slackware. [10:24] Blue_Slacker86 (~Blue_Slac@217.219.147.114) left irc: Client Quit [10:24] Blue_Slacker86 (~Blue_Slac@217.219.147.114) joined ##slackware. [10:37] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-195.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:38] VO: [vdpau] 1280x720 => 1280x720 H.264 VDPAU acceleration [10:38] I love this! [10:38] youtube-dl + mplayer + nvidia: hw accelerated youtube. [10:39] and a ball-ache [10:41] Gargantua (Gargantua@213.188.65.234) joined ##slackware. [10:41] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [10:41] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [10:41] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-222-194.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [10:42] youtube-dl? Firefox with DownloadHelper [10:45] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-135-148.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[10:59] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-61-151.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [10:59] sirslacker (1001@s0362.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [11:00] I've installed firefox-3.6 but can't seem to get java plugin to work. Still works fine on firefox-2.0.0.20, so what's wrong here? [11:02] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.214.246) joined ##slackware. [11:02] profile? [11:02] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829] [11:04] hi, can anyone write iptables rule(s) here that I will append to my existing firewall to allow aMule traffic? I generated my firewall script using a script. I don't know iptables. [11:04] muahaha [11:04] you can't add it at the end [11:04] the packet is likely to be rejected before it gets there [11:05] alreadygone: Don't look upon it as a problem but a challenge to be solved. ;-) [11:05] hmm [11:05] alreadygone, try http://www.slackware.com/~alien/efg/ [11:05] :) [11:06] that's what I used to generate my firewall rules :) [11:06] "Slackware adaptation" [11:06] :P [11:07] thanks anyway :] maybe I should make a resolution to learn iptables this year... [11:08] try a new clean script [11:09] add rule by rule and test [11:09] powtrix, you mean using http://www.slackware.com/~alien/efg/ ? [11:10] yes [11:10] okie [11:10] learning iptables is really important if you have a machine directly connected to the internet [11:10] read how the rules work and try to do manually others rules [11:11] well, the concepts behind it are more then you can just glean from reading [11:11] today almost users are behind one router [11:11] alreadygone: slackfire is a fairly good iptables for slackware, its a bash script [11:12] thanks Skywise, powtrix, gnubien :) [11:12] Action: alreadygone is Googling slackfire [11:12] alreadygone: iirc slackfire is at slackbuild site [11:12] ok [11:12] SOUL_OF_R00T (~1001@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:12] alreadygone: and at freshmeat.net iirc [11:13] as a general rule for firewalls, you wanna deny everything and only allow the minimum needed for what you need to work [11:14] sounds sensible Skywise [11:14] i read somewhere it's rude to Deny, one should Reject...something like that... not sure though [11:14] long time ago [11:15] i drop by default [11:15] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) joined ##slackware. [11:18] my servers only respond to specific ips for specific ports [11:19] only the web, dns and mailservers have ports open to the public [11:19] Action: adaptr immediately prepares to hax0r Skywise [11:20] lol [11:20] i would never be so bold as to claim i'm invulnerable [11:20] I would! but then I'm often lying [11:20] i just minimize my exposure [11:21] Skywise: if you have spare time, set up a honeypot in a VM that strikes back :) [11:21] making that claim is just daring someone to prove you wrong [11:21] well see, striking back can get you into trouble too [11:21] thats the bad part [11:21] the sun is invulnerable [11:22] Tyrael (pirc30@j111178.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [11:22] used to be when some trade school sent you spam mail you could email them an negatively compressed mime encoded slackware dvd as a thank you [11:22] but now, someone might call you a terrorist [11:23] negatively compressed ? [11:23] it gives you back bytes ? [11:23] yes, you can setup zip compression to make the files larger then originally [11:26] i liked to send people a few gigs of /dev/zero gzipped [11:26] but it blows up their email filters and scanners [11:26] when they unpack it [11:26] to scan for viruses or whatever [11:26] GooseYArd: that's obviously nonsense. a stream of identical bits never grows in compression [11:28] right [11:28] my isp was totally cool with it as long as i only did it off peak hours [11:28] adaptr: thats precisely the point [11:28] this wasn't something i'd do on my own machine over dialup, i'd send it from a shell account [11:28] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.106) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:28] Nick change: sirslacker -> sirslacker| [11:29] i'd still be with them, but they got bought up and the parent company sucked and went out business a couple of years later [11:30] it was just a little regional isp out of a barn [11:30] but it had loads of bandwidth and all the latest hardware [11:31] adaptr: you can mail somebody a little 50-60k zipfile with an interesting name and they'll fill their disk up :) [11:31] they let me use slip instead of ppp because it was better, even tho ppp was the configured default [11:31] GooseYArd: certainly [11:32] i could do natting over my shell login [11:32] that was so totally cool, so for the first time, you didn't need a modem for every machine you wanted on the net [11:33] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:33] hah did you ever use term? [11:33] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [11:33] yeah [11:33] term was how you'd mud [11:34] hah so you could get your sweet tf [11:34] i think i irc'd that way for a while [11:34] it was hard to get term to work on ultrix [11:34] yeah, that was really hacking [11:35] if I do iptables -L, what does that mean: ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere dp dpt:rfa ? the dpt:rfa part! [11:35] when you got X you needed the manual for the card and the monitor to write the config timings [11:35] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [11:36] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@124.43.40.* expired. [11:36] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@124.43.40.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [11:36] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:36] Tyrael (pirc30@j111178.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:37] rfa is the /etc/services port definition [11:37] alreadygone: ^^^ [11:37] i had one of those horrible OAK svga cards [11:37] lol [11:37] alreadygone: try "iptables -nvL [11:37] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [11:37] there was something about it that caused the green gun in my monitor to fail repeatedly [11:37] ok alisonken1home [11:37] so id run x for a few weeks and then everything went red [11:37] hehe [11:38] GooseYArd: that can also be caused by a magnet close to the green gun [11:38] my video card was a pain to setup too [11:38] cool. thanks alisonken1home [11:38] alreadygone: "man iptables" is your friend :) [11:39] The_ManU_212 (~manu@port-92-200-7-159.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [11:39] :D ok. [11:39] hi [11:39] for a quick check "grep rfa /etc/services" [11:39] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [11:39] yesterday i came here because of my xserver restart-problem, do u remember zaltekk? [11:39] nice [11:40] now I know why I was not seeing 4672 in iptables -L [11:40] i treid the alt+sysrq+k key und then my machine hang up, with ssh i went to init 3 and then i shut down, because itw as allready late [11:43] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) left irc: Quit: Bye! [11:43] shyko (~shyko@187.39.212.183) joined ##slackware. [11:43] shyko (~shyko@187.39.212.183) left irc: Changing host [11:43] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [11:44] Skywise: ping [11:44] hossje (~hossje@216.120.133.225) joined ##slackware. [11:44] Hello. I have a question about a problem after upgrading to slackware current. [11:45] i bet we know the answer [11:45] I was running Slackware 13 with KDE 4.2 and upgraded to current [11:45] lets hear it hossje [11:45] KDE was upgraded, but now it seems to be incomplete. [11:45] missing icons? [11:45] hossje: did you read the documentation? [11:45] I have searched a bit for known issues and have not been successful. [11:45] Yes missing icons. [11:45] did you use slackpkg? [11:45] slackpkg [11:45] yes [11:45] just do slackpkg install-new [11:45] Action: BP{k} sighs [11:45] something about "slackpkg install-new" comes to mind? [11:46] that'll get the new icons package [11:46] hossje: fail. :) [11:46] upgrade-all does not work? [11:46] CRAP [11:46] it just upgrades whats already installed [11:46] hossje: read the slackpkg manpage [11:47] but if some new packages come along, it wont get em [11:47] Just saw "Run this if you are upgrading to another Slackware version or using current." [11:47] "upgrade-all" does just that - it "upgrades" existing packages, it doesn't "install-new" packages [11:47] documentation is for chumps [11:47] seriously, this kind of questions you should *NOT* be asking if you think you can run -current. [11:47] Thank you very much. I deserve all of the FAILS! :) [11:47] well now you know! [11:48] Hey hey...take it easy BP. Deep breaths. [11:48] at least bp wont have to worry about getting stuck in a customer service job :) [11:48] I ran slackware current before slackpkg. Just new to the process. All is well. [11:48] anyone can help, if u restart on a normal slackware 13.0 installation ur xserver with ctrl+alt+backspace it will restart only once, the second time a user will be left on a blank screen, framebuffer, tty, its because kdm crashes [11:48] yesterday we discussed this problem and it seems to be a bug in slackware [11:48] hossje: it's a matter of how many times that question has arisen in this channel [11:49] bug how? slackpkg did just what you told it to do [11:49] for users with admin rights and no experience in tty or terminal its very bad to work if the want to restart x [11:49] Fair enough alison....fair enough. [11:49] v4nelle (~van@79.103.135.146.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:49] GooseYArd: You just know you want to see that happen. If nothing else the sheer enjoyment of people on the other side of the telephone bursting spontanously into flames. ;) [11:49] ehehe [11:49] hossje (~hossje@216.120.133.225) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:49] man i think my brain is about to come apart [11:50] ive been using xmonad for about a year now [11:50] but when im at home, i ssh in from a windows 7 box and run screen [11:50] so ive got three different sets of window management keys going [11:51] try switching between vim, emacs and notepad++ too, that'll help =) [11:51] occasionally ill get switched to firefox and keep swapping back and forth between tabs trying to figure out where my xterm went [11:51] Blue_Slacker86 (~Blue_Slac@vir1a.toonel.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:51] ahah yeah i forgot about emacs [11:52] good you are on the road to enlightenment [11:52] i think eventually ill just run emacs on the console and leave it at that [11:52] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [11:53] XGizzmo: well ive been doing this for about 20 years and i dont feel any closer to enlightenment than when I started [11:53] i think the best solution is just to stop working from home [11:55] grazymax (~grazymax@host184-27-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:55] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [11:56] time to sleep. night. [11:56] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.214.246) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:56] sleep? [11:56] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:56] GooseYArd: you might want to look at autohotkey on windows, it'll let you define keyboard shortcuts [11:56] powtrix: too late, he's already gone! [11:56] Action: Camarade_Tux hides [11:56] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [11:57] Forecast for Sao Paulo (BR): Mon: Sunny Low: 70F/21.11C High: 89F/31.67C Tue: Isolated Thunderstorms Low: 70F/21.11C High: 84F/28.89C [11:57] powtrix: you know the Earth is round right? [11:57] now 30C [11:57] route: 59.103.0.0/16 descr: Pakistan Telecommunication Company Limited [11:57] Mona (~chatzilla@124.43.40.41) joined ##slackware. [11:57] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@124.43.40.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [11:57] Mona kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Intel[R]VT-x / mica / Mona... bugger off troll [11:57] He's on the other side [11:57] heh [11:57] too hot here [11:58] come to Paris, 3°C currently and so cloudy night started at 3pm [11:58] powtrix: hah you stink [11:58] ive got 3 feet of snow outside [11:58] wax up the skiis! [11:59] eheh [11:59] 3 feet ?!! [11:59] GooseYArd: did any more fall last night? [11:59] i tried to take my daughters out for sledding, but the little one disappeared under the snow [11:59] aww. lol [11:59] BP{k}: no although now theyre forecasting like 6-12 tomorrow [11:59] if it snows again ill hang myself [12:00] hang on i think i have some photos [12:00] GooseYArd: 'global cooling' is the cause ;) [12:01] padhu (~Padhu@58.68.66.251) joined ##slackware. [12:01] Action: BP{k} blames copenhagen ;) [12:01] http://picasaweb.google.com/GooseYArd/Winter2009#5435610589796077282 [12:01] boojit (boojit@gw.carter.to) left ##slackware. [12:01] GooseYArd: Al must have been scheduled to give a global warming speach somewhere near DC last weekend. [12:01] yah i thought it was funny, when obama was flying back from copenhagen, he got stuck at andrews afb because they'd just gotten the single biggest snow total in the history of DC in december [12:02] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:02] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:03] GooseYArd, I prefer 30°C than 3°C [12:03] i agree [12:04] Nick change: The_ManU_212 -> The_ManU_212_afk [12:05] 15h now and the sun is burning mercilessly [12:07] powtrix: You're in the southern hemisphere. Just wait until july...I'll be the one baking away [12:09] or he's on a ski slope or ocean [12:09] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:10] I'm 1 mile from the ocean right now and it's gloomy and damp [12:10] We had another monsoon come through [12:10] anyone knows what 1e100 is? [12:11] a googl [12:11] 1e100.net. It's occupiing a lot of my bandwidth [12:11] Skywise: a what? [12:11] lol [12:11] a one with one hundred 0's behind it? [12:11] pv-in-f82.1e100.net [12:12] Kaapa: that's google [12:12] newbie2010 (~newbie201@41.252.15.85) joined ##slackware. [12:12] http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/02/08/132212/Google-Mystery-Domain-Reroutes-3-of-Net-Surfers?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29 [12:12] its the reverse dns network for googles servers [12:12] It's also what responds when you ping google.com [12:13] reminds me of a customer that emailed tech support asking why we kept deleting their database - come to find out, they had forgotten to write a robots.txt file on their homepage and they used a ?delete=... command in their link [12:13] the network was given that name in respect to what it was originally in reference too [12:14] alisonken1home: Isn't good web design supposed to use POST for modifying the database? [12:14] paul424_ (~chatzilla@host253.ii.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:14] NaCl: amazing how that works :) [12:15] isn't it a good design to have some kind of access control on a function that can delete your whole database [12:15] well, it was deleting data from the database not the database [12:15] what? [12:15] so google was recursively trying to index their page, but one of their links was a link to remove an entry in the database [12:16] bloddy hell [12:16] it was intellij [12:16] alisonken1home: I saw something like that on thedailywtf once [12:16] That's one of the reasons why you *don't* do that [12:16] which in turn was calling another link to delete an item in the database ............ [12:16] yeah [12:16] fun ones :) gotta love amateur web designers [12:17] it should need some kind of authorization still [12:17] the web designer has to design controls - remember, the web was designed to share information [12:18] Skywise: I periodically use a system that over uses POST [12:19] I worked with someone that didn't know you could use a post method, then in a bash cgi script call "cat - >tmpfile' to retrieve it [12:20] powtrix: btw, http://omploader.org/vM2hscQ/IMGP0411_0.JPG <- cloudy enough? =) ( jpeg compression to decrease the quality even more ;-) ) [12:20] heh -> http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6348/dsc00814i.jpg & http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5099/dsc00815t.jpg [12:22] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:22] tooly (~theo@e178144057.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [12:22] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [12:22] Camarade_Tux, where is that ? [12:22] powtrix: Paris [12:23] Camarade_Tux: You live in some chateau in basque country or what? [12:23] antiwire: in the middle of Paris actually xD [12:23] lol [12:23] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:23] antiwire: I'm pretty lucky ;-) [12:23] God I hate stupid people. [12:24] Alan_Hicks: You at the DMV or the post office? [12:24] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:24] "I believe the email was down this weekend. How long was it down?" "You must be mistaken. The e-mail wasn't down at all this weekend." "When I left Friday about 5:40pm, it was asking for my password. When it [12:24] does that, I never get any emails until it stops asking for my password." [12:24] Well duh! Put in the right fuckin' password. [12:24] oh wow. [12:25] another classic [12:25] This is from my client's "IT person". [12:25] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:25] hahaha :-) [12:25] "Is email down" "you just asked me if the email server was down via email..what do you think?" [12:25] antiwire: I've gotten those before too. [12:26] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:26] lol [12:26] ardya: still here? [12:27] GooseYArd (GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left ##slackware. [12:28] I've 6Gb mircoSD memory which formatted under 32bit windows XP and it showing as 1Gbÿ only, sfdisk it on slackware showed it as /dev/sda1 0+ 122- 123- 984032+ 7 HPFS/NTFS [12:28] how do I know the real size and how to make a 6G ntfs partition? [12:28] newbie2010: Is there data on it that you need? [12:28] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:29] nyRednek: hey [12:29] nope [12:29] in these days nothing is better than a beer http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9486/dsc02060v.jpg [12:29] newbie2010: verify that sda is really the SD card [12:29] yes it's [12:29] ok [12:30] my main is identified as hda [12:30] main HDD [12:30] Nick change: The_ManU_212_afk -> The_ManU_212 [12:30] microsd of 6gb? [12:30] yes [12:30] newbie2010: Warning: This will erase data on the card. Use this to wipe the card's tables "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1024 count=5" [12:30] i know msd of 1,2,4,8,16 and 32gigs [12:31] then partition it using fdisk or cfdisk [12:31] and then format it [12:31] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:32] newbie2010: I can walk you through using fdisk if you wish [12:32] I keep on forgetting: which one is the "preferred" way to get a "FAT32" partition? mkdosfs? [12:32] cfdisk never worked for me with any removable memory, on fdisk ... thank you very much indeed antiwire ... let me the dd command now [12:32] Camarade_Tux: mkdosfs -F32 [12:32] Camarade_Tux: yes. [12:33] haqe17 (~csujbc@joshua.dcs.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:33] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:34] The_Apprentice (~The_Appre@cpc2-chwo1-0-0-cust831.perr.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:35] why does it take ages for my wireless adaptor to load a http page? [12:36] it seems to be kind of slow [12:36] We don't know. [12:36] 5120 bytes (5.1 kb) copied, 5.0637e-05 s, 101 MB/s [12:36] I thought web browsers loaded web pages [12:36] what is that antiwire? [12:36] newbie2010: ok, remove the stick and reinsert it [12:36] then fdisk -l [12:37] pastebin the output [12:37] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-91.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [12:37] The_Apprentice, define a dns server [12:38] nothing to do with protocols.... when I click on a page it seems to take a whole before the wireless adaptors light begin to flash [12:39] i.e. send info back to the router [12:39] does that make any sense? [12:39] Disk /dev/sdb: 1024 cylinders, 31 heads, 62 sectors/track [12:39] while* [12:39] try access via ip if it loads [12:40] unrecognized partition table [12:40] newbie2010: sdb? [12:40] access via ip? [12:40] yes now it's sdb [12:40] ok [12:40] newbie2010: now run fdisk /dev/sdb [12:40] http://200.200.200.200 something [12:41] zaltekk: are u available? [12:41] I dont think dns is an issue .. because it works perfectly on windows [12:41] its something to fo with the local setup [12:41] newbie2010: at the fdisk prompt, type: n [12:41] then p [12:41] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:41] Give it number 1 [12:42] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:42] btw, why I'm only able to xterm since I've started using low previliged user on linux [12:42] The_Apprentice, local setup then [12:42] First cyl: hit enter, last cyl hit enter. [12:42] i halted unless i'm a root [12:42] newbie2010: Let's use PM so I don't spam the channel [12:42] newbie2010: yes. [12:43] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [12:43] the dns server ip is a local setup [12:43] you can access fast your router? [12:44] powtrix: I mean nothing to do with networks because it works on windows .... for some reaon when I switch linux the wireless adaptor reacts to requests very slowly [12:44] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [12:44] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [12:44] under linux you can access fast your router? [12:45] no [12:45] its slow [12:45] like ping < 0.5 ms [12:45] ping takes 38.7 ms [12:46] its slow [12:46] what is your card? pci/usb.. [12:46] usb [12:46] ndiswrapper [12:46] I am using the windows driver through ndiswrapper [12:46] arr [12:47] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@207.81.93.133) joined ##slackware. [12:47] try wicd [12:48] does that come with slackware 12.0? or it needs installing [12:48] how do I check what version of slack i'm running? [12:49] extra/wicd [12:49] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.0/network/wicd/ [12:50] The_Apprentice: if you use wicd, make sure to change the wlan0/eth0 in preferences If you have more than one eth/wlan card [12:50] how do I check whay version of slack installed? [12:50] forgot the cmd [12:50] its been a while [12:51] cat /etc/slackware-version [12:52] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[13:08] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [13:08] weirfghliewugfh (~ksljdbfvi@68.232.112.232.dynamic.dejazzd.com) left irc: Quit: Quit [13:09] newbie2010 (~newbie201@41.252.15.85) joined ##slackware. [13:09] madbear (~dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [13:11] Skywise: are u here? [13:11] dunix (~dguitar@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [13:12] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-61-151.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [13:13] alisonken1home (~alisonken@71.104.224.127) joined ##slackware. [13:16] madbear_ (dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left ##slackware. [13:16] The_ManU_212: If you have a question, it might be easier to just ask it. People in here, might not always be looking at their irc-client every minute.. [13:18] BP{k}: kk, im searching for the guys who discussed yesterday with me and tried to help... i'm a bit sad, cause i chose salckware sicne its a distribution known for stability and averything works... [13:19] tooly (theo@e178144057.adsl.alicedsl.de) left ##slackware. [13:20] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [13:20] The_ManU_212: Well, I am nut sure there was much that could be done. Seems from what we looked at yesterday, that KDM doesn't exit properly when receiving ctrl-alt-backspace. However I had little problem doing that multiple times yesterday from within any DE. [13:20] padhu (~Padhu@58.68.66.251) left irc: Quit: Going to bed...... [13:20] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:21] xsamurai (~fahad@69.43.199.101) joined ##slackware. [13:21] BP{k}: yeah last thing i tried was alt+sysrq+k then my system froze, i had to login viia ssh , did init 3, init4 and then i could go on, sicne it was late, i shutdown... [13:21] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:21] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Client Quit [13:22] what is the shortcut to mark one word next to cursor in most kde programs ? I know some shortcut exists in the windows, but here ...... [13:23] paul424_: Any reason why you can't research/solve that yourself? By oh say .. looking at {global,} shortcuts in KDE? [13:23] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:24] paul424_: ctrl-shift-(left or right) [13:24] also is the /usr/include the only place where you have the header c/cpp files [13:24] adaptr: yes, I am dumb and lazy [13:24] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:24] I know [13:24] we know. [13:24] adaptr++ [13:26] snL20 (~irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:27] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-214-117.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:28] The_ManU_212: Well, I suppose that SysRq + k is a little bit overkill. All you need to do is to kill the KDM process after it hangs and X will respawn. However for whatever makes kdm hang, you probably have to debug it :) [13:29] BP{k}: hm but why has no kde developer or the slakware packaging team found this bug? [13:29] i'm not that linux master to find the issue [13:29] The_ManU_212: look in /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc for "#TerminateServer=true", remove the #, and restart kdm. Then tell me if your "black screen" issue has disappeared [13:30] what foldier is the wicd pkg located in the slack cd? [13:30] extra/ [13:30] well there are many sub folder in extra/ [13:31] folders* [13:31] the one called wicd [13:31] The_Apprentice: Oh geez, let me guess ... perhaps the "extra/wicd" directory? You know just a random guess... [13:32] alienBOB: k ill try [13:32] Axius (~hi@109.97.55.116) joined ##slackware. [13:32] The_ManU_212 (~manu@port-92-200-7-159.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:33] BP{k}, aaaah the sweet sound of sarcasm in a rainny evening [13:33] guax: ;) [13:33] BO{k} perhaps there isnt a folder "extra/wicd" [13:33] I dont see it [13:33] The_Apprentice, it exists, check if you using the right cd [13:34] /mnt/data/slackware/slackware-current/extra/wicd/wicd-1.7.0-i486-1.txz [13:34] I am using the same cd I installed slack from [13:34] what slackware versionw [13:34] ? [13:35] The_Apprentice: Don't be silly now. Of course there is such a folder. If there isn't you have the wrong CD. [13:35] The_Apprentice: And pray do tell .. Which CD of the 6 would that be? [13:35] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [13:35] guax thanks [13:35] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-129-186-136.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:35] The_Apprentice, what slackware version are those cd from? [13:35] cd or dvd by the way [13:35] ? [13:35] I was in cd/extra not cd/slackware.../extra [13:36] theres no such thing o_O [13:36] snL20 (~irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [13:37] The_ManU_212 (~manu@port-92-200-7-159.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [13:37] The_Apprentice: But in an attempt to be actually helpful: If you have slackware-13.0 .. Wicd you can find on the CD #4. [based on: http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php] [13:37] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-45-56.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:37] alienBlurb: it doesnt work, now evertime x doesnt restart, before the config chance it was on the second time [13:38] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:38] The_Apprentice: Of course, it really depends a little bit on whatever slackware version you are running. So until you answer that question, it'll be mostly guess work on our part. [13:39] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:42] The_Apprentice (~The_Appre@cpc2-chwo1-0-0-cust831.perr.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [13:43] BP{k}: you scared him away. :P [13:43] :) [13:45] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-129-186-136.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:46] someone knows why sicne slackware 13.0 and nvidia drivers terhe is no nvidia logo anymore dispalyed with the Option "NoLogo" "false" in xorg.conf? [13:46] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [13:47] That is a sign that you are not even using the driver at all. [13:47] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. [13:47] I get the logo. [13:48] do you get the logo when that line is not present? [13:48] antiwire: i use the driver, and it worked udner 12.2 fine, see: [13:48] [~>$ glxinfo | grep rendering [13:48] direct rendering: Yes [13:49] Axius (~hi@109.97.55.116) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:49] The_ManU_212: Which version of the driver? [13:50] iirc that happened with some nvidia versions, if you upgrade the driver youll get it back. either way its totally irrelevant with Slackware [13:52] antiwire: all the last drivers, includin stable and beta, now running 195.30 [13:52] that's why I'm curious about his driver version. I'm on the beta driver and I have the "beta" logo [13:52] and slackware 13.0 [13:53] The_ManU_212: Do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf? [13:54] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:54] The_ManU_212: I wouldn't really worry about it since the driver seems to be working fine. I don't know why it doesn't show the logo for you though. I'm using NVIDIA-Linux-x86-195.30-pkg1.run and I get the logo [13:54] antiwire: i amde a package, and yes i have xorg.conf with the requiered option [13:55] the logo is only a setting after all =) [13:55] I believe the logo is only shown for screens with depth 24. maybe your depth is different. [13:55] and who would want to see the logo anyway [13:55] proud nvidia owners? [13:55] :) [13:56] mag0o: proud user of nouveau here ;-) [13:56] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) joined ##slackware. [13:56] mag0o: yah, I always enable it when my friends are over! [13:56] :D [13:56] mag0o: More proud than ATI owners [13:57] Action: mag0o hides is radeon logo [13:57] <--- proud owner of RS-232 display. [13:57] ^ hides his pins [13:57] mag0o: the rad dong ? [13:57] :D [13:57] hehe [13:58] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@124.43.40.* expired. [13:58] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@124.43.40.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [13:58] chess: where to cekck the depth, actually running? i want the logo to see if the driver runs fine [13:58] and proud nvidia user 2 :p [13:58] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: She talks to angels, says they call her out by name. [13:58] check the driver by running nvidia-settings [13:58] theres other ways to see if the driver is working fine.. [13:58] The_ManU_212: getting good video perf? [13:58] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [13:58] and xorg's log will tell you [13:59] Camarade_Tux: no cause i got tearing :( [13:59] The_ManU_212: not sure how to check depth while running but you can set depth in xorg.conf. I would also try removing the line since I think the default is to show the logo unless 'NoLogo' is 'true' [13:59] The_ManU_212: well, can you run nvidia-settings? [14:00] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:00] i havnt had the logo show up since slackware 12.0 [14:00] chess: ah k, in xorg.conf my depth is 24, so where can be the issue? [14:00] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@217.219.147.114) joined ##slackware. [14:00] Scuzz: that's when you changed hardware, remember? [14:01] oh yeah [14:02] Camarade_Tux: nvidia-settings runs fine [14:02] hi to all [14:02] The_ManU_212: did you try removing the nologo line? [14:02] mag0o: the logo hides when changing hardware oO [14:02] how i can use laptop touchmouse [14:03] chess: it dosnt show up before this entry and also not after [14:03] chess: i have 2 screens [14:03] Blue_Slacker86: Mostly they just work. You might need/wish to do some configuration if you've got a Synaptics touchpad. Thsoe are pretty common today. [14:04] and do u know how to avoid tearing in videos? [14:04] Blue_Slacker86: Do you have some particular question? [14:05] Alan_Hicks: i have synapticd tpuchpad but i can not use it [14:05] Blue_Slacker86: Are you wanting to use it on a virtual terminal or in X? [14:06] Alan_Hicks: yes [14:06] heh [14:06] I deserved that. [14:06] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:06] hackeron (~hackeron@gentoo/user/hackeron) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:06] Blue_Slacker86: Which one smart-ass? :^) [14:07] how can you use it in a vt? [14:07] just out of curiosity :) [14:08] gpm [14:08] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:08] duh [14:08] anyway I really apreciaty the slackware channel, since for asking similar questions I have been banned on a few. [14:08] any problem with sendmail on -current? [14:08] Alan_Hicks: what [14:08] start prints Starting sendmail MTA daemon: /usr/sbin/sendmail -L sm-mta -bd -q25m and stay stucked [14:09] Blue_Slacker86: Are you unable to use it in X? Or are you unable to use it in a VT? Or both? [14:09] mailq seems to be not working as well [14:09] Alan_Hicks: both of them [14:09] guax: Define "as well". [14:09] as not well =P [14:10] chess: did u also amde a nvidia package? [14:10] guax: Need specifics here. "Doesn't work as well" is hardly a bug report. [14:10] Blue_Slacker86: SLackware 13.0? [14:10] Alan_Hicks, just dont print nothing, and keeps the cursor locked [14:10] Alan_Hicks: yes [14:10] The_ManU_212: no, I do not use nvidia any more but I have in the past [14:10] Blue_Slacker86: Do you have a xorg.conf file? [14:11] sendmail seemed to finish starting but took a time. mailq keeps frozen [14:11] personally I do not see the need for an nvidia package, the default installer that nvidia provides works purdy well. [14:11] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:11] but it changes some libs [14:12] guax: Hmmm.... everytime sendmail has taken a long time to start with me it was a network issue, probably related to DNS. I don't know why that would make a difference with mailq though. [14:12] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [14:12] Camarade_Tux: so? and how does making a package change that? [14:12] pprkut's script backs em up [14:12] the nvidia-switch script included in the SB on sbo [14:12] chess: what do u use instead? [14:12] ok, mailq answered now, but took a huge time, letme mesure that [14:13] and restores em in case you wanna get back on using nv :P [14:13] The_ManU_212: intel [14:13] sahk0: That still doesn't change the fact that after instaling the package, those libraries, will be changed. :P And why would you want to go back? ;) [14:13] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:13] and I've often had to recreate the kernel module package and the SB is far better than nvidia's installer for that [14:14] real 1m0.085s | user 0m0.010s | sys 0m0.005s [14:14] :| [14:14] damn [14:14] guax: Wow. I take it the mail queue wasn't huge? [14:14] BP{k}: when you remove that freedom hating card pehaps? ;-) [14:15] Alan_Hicks, one mail [14:15] chess: ... hmm .. no ;) [14:15] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [14:15] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [14:15] guax: Have you tried restarting sendmail or checking the maillog for errors? [14:15] Alan_Hicks, i think the problem is here: Feb 8 17:15:00 trantor sendmail[14399]: unable to qualify my own domain name (trantor) -- using short namethin [14:15] guax: Add that to /etc/hosts. [14:16] BP{k}: I did the "going back" thing with nouveau in mind ;) [14:16] Alan_Hicks: i just have xorg.conf-vesa [14:16] echo "127.0.0.1 namethin" >> /etc/hosts [14:16] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [14:16] Alan_Hicks, yeah, i removed it because of asterisk :D [14:16] paul424_ (chatzilla@host253.ii.uni.wroc.pl) left ##slackware. [14:16] pprkut: hehe. [14:16] guax: Add it and restart sendmail. [14:16] yep [14:16] icefusion (~icefusion@unaffiliated/icefusion) joined ##slackware. [14:17] icefusion (icefusion@unaffiliated/icefusion) left ##slackware ("log off (acessem http://www.icefusion.com.br)"). [14:17] wtf, its there [14:17] To be honest, I have got nothing against pprkut's package, if that is what works for you. I am just used to using the installer, and OCPD enough not to change my habbits. ;) [14:17] bah, I went for nouveau ;-) [14:18] guax: pastebing /etc/hosts [14:18] Blue_Slacker86: Strange. 13.0 should detect it automatically and make use of it. [14:18] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:18] pastebing ... new, from Microsoft [14:19] hehehe [14:19] Alan_Hicks, http://pastebin.org/88392 [14:19] Blue_Slacker86: Does "X -configure" make the mouse work? [14:19] chess: does that come with highlighting support for Visual Basic? ;) [14:19] BP{k}: :-) [14:19] slava_dp (~slava@nas-pra-03.fregat.net) joined ##slackware. [14:20] host localhost is giving NXDOMAIN LOL [14:20] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@217.219.147.114) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:20] without the lol of course, thats mine [14:20] guax: "trantor" is the name given by hostname, right? [14:20] yes [14:21] guax: I have no idea, but I highly suspect this to be a misconfiguration somewhere. [14:21] vdvluc (~luc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:21] guax: ping -c1 trantor [14:22] goes to 127.0.0.1 [14:22] weird [14:22] but hosts is not resolving it to 127.0.0.1 its giving NXDOMAIN [14:22] :/ [14:22] guax: I don't understand. Do you mean "host trantor" fails to work? That's normal. "host" doesn't check /etc/hosts [14:22] i been trying to hack in to 127.0.0.1 but the owner sure locked that site down good ;p [14:23] lol [14:23] humm [14:23] vdvluc (luc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) left ##slackware. [14:23] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [14:23] Pig_Pen: try 127.0.0.2 [14:23] guax: You aren't running a DNS server on this box by any chance are you? [14:25] no [14:25] vdvluc (~luc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:25] standard current installation [14:25] And standard sendmail.cf? [14:25] yes [14:26] Alan_Hicks, the nxdomain is normal yes, macos from my neighbor do as well. debians at first glance do resolv by hosts too, compat mode i think. i was using sendmail on 12.2 without problem [14:26] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: She talks to angels, says they call her out by name. [14:26] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:26] vdvluc (luc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) left ##slackware. [14:27] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@217.219.147.114) joined ##slackware. [14:29] guax: I'm not sure, but I'm gonna follow up on this and make sure it's not actually a bug in Slackware. The only way I think it could be a bug is if sendmail somehow doesn't check /etc/hosts. [14:30] Blue_Slacker86: Does "X -configure" make the mouse work? [14:30] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [14:31] Alan_Hicks: no it not work again [14:32] Blue_Slacker86: Very strange. Are you using gpm? ls -l /etc/rc.d/rc.gpm [14:32] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [14:33] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1148 2010-02-08 00:29 /etc/rc.d/rc.gpm* [14:33] Blue_Slacker86: And the mouse doesn't work in a virtual terminal either? [14:34] Alan_Hicks: no it not work [14:34] Blue_Slacker86: /etc/rc.d/rc.gpm stop; chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.gpm; startx [14:38] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@217.219.147.114) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:38] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: She talks to angels, says they call her out by name. [14:38] technopolic (~technopol@95.43.8.45) joined ##slackware. [14:39] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:40] Hi all, I am running slack13 and installed gparted, but the libgiomm-2.4.so.1 librarry is missing and I can't find it [14:40] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@217.219.147.114) joined ##slackware. [14:40] brokedown (~not@unaffiliated/dedhed) joined ##slackware. [14:40] Alan_Hicks, solved [14:40] Does anyone know where I can find you? [14:40] Alan_Hicks:it not work again [14:40] guax: What was it? [14:41] Alan_Hicks, sendmail expect a fully qualified name, so changed to 127.0.0.1 trantor.guax.net trantor, and it works [14:41] guax: Should have worked with the shortname though. [14:41] yep [14:41] Feb 8 17:40:49 trantor sm-mta[14902]: unable to qualify my own domain name (trantor) -- using short name [14:41] thats the problem, because: My unqualified host name (trantor) unknown; sleeping for retry [14:41] Right. Why give that error message if it can't work with a shortname? [14:42] it actualy works, but it sleeps for retrying and keep doind it [14:42] Blue_Slacker86: I'm not sure what else to try. What kind of laptop is this? [14:43] Alan_Hicks, im googling for it [14:43] perhaps some configuration on .cf to make it work [14:43] Alan_Hicks:dell LATITUDE| E5500 [14:44] tomi3074 (~tomi3074@adar49.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. 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[15:14] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@217.219.147.114) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:14] Would it bother you if the company you're applying at calls linux 'Lunix'? http://snipurl.com/ub1u3 [15:15] loo-knicks? [15:15] nooper: I'd be more worried if they called linux, linsys [15:16] nooper: I would be a bit worried. but considering stuff like thjat is made up by the average HR-hyena. ;) [15:16] and it's only the title where they got it wrong. [15:16] It's more a typo I would guess since under Experience they have it correct. [15:24] there really is an OS called Lunix [15:25] it's a tiny vaguely unix-like OS for the commodore 64 :) [15:25] Urchlay: haha but it wasn't called " RedHat Lunix" was it? [15:25] nah [15:27] My boss sometimes calls Linksys "linski". [15:27] Actually, he doens't do that anymore, but it took me years of correcting him before he started to get it right. [15:27] technopolic (~technopol@95.43.8.45) joined ##slackware. [15:27] zaltekk (~zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) left irc: [15:28] when I first started using Linux, I used to pronounce it with a long I (lie-nux), but then I'd never heard the word before (only read it) [15:29] Urchlay: I ou E? [15:29] or* [15:30] waabimiigwan (~steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:30] I just took the SBo hostapd script that was created by banderols and made some modifications to it so it will work with the most recent versions of hostapd. I don't plan to distribute it but I want to make sure I modify the credits properly. I left the credits section exactly as it was and added, at the end, a quick notice that I modified it and thanked banderols for the work. Is that acceptable? [15:30] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:30] long I, like english speakers pronounce the name "Linus" [15:31] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:33] technopolic (technopol@95.43.8.45) left ##slackware. [15:38] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Quit: ... ... .. .. . . [15:45] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-9-254.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [15:45] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:46] antiwire: really a question for #slackbuilds [15:47] The answer would be "yes" [15:48] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-sxwlhlwrhcteuvrh) left irc: Quit: xMDKx [15:48] necropresto, é i ou e? [15:50] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [15:50] sh0ne (~sh0ne@79.101.88.221) joined ##slackware. [15:53] which SBo category would a vi-like file manager fit? [15:55] edthix (~ed@115.133.247.160) joined ##slackware. [15:55] slava_dp: You mean like MC? [15:55] lf4, yep. [15:56] rsts (~rastos@78.141.72.137) joined ##slackware. [15:56] it's system. [15:56] slava_dp: development [15:56] nvi is there at least [15:57] but if you search for "file manager", all of them are in System. [15:57] sahk0: It's not a text editor he's checking though. It's under System. [15:57] oh, file manager [15:57] tomi3074 (~tomi3074@adar49.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:57] i skipped that part, i thought you said editor [15:57] what fm? vifm ? [15:58] yes, vifm. [15:58] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [15:58] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:59] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [15:59] krautondope (~o@p57A727F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [15:59] krautondope (o@p57A727F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left ##slackware. [16:01] waabimiigwan (~steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:01] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.57.195) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:03] uploaded it :) [16:05] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:05] Action: slava_dp loves SBo [16:06] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:09] antiwire (antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("She talks to angels, says they call her out by name."). [16:09] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:10] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [16:10] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [16:12] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@64.238.225.38) joined ##slackware. [16:14] hi everyone. does anybody know how could I contribute into getting some newer versions of packages into -current? [16:15] stuff like gdb released 3 months ago, xorg as well, etc [16:15] you have to be a member of the Slackware team [16:15] my impression is that slackware team is at about 3-4 people [16:16] but if there is some reason you *need* a certain package you might wanna ask Pat to upgrade it [16:16] incognitus (~neam@212.233.209.134) joined ##slackware. [16:16] I was thinking more about hinting them [16:16] by e-mail or something [16:16] you don't think Pat knows that newer x.org is available? :) [16:16] but last time I tried that, I got no response and no reaction [16:16] .... [16:16] I guess, he does. so where is the package? [16:17] no offense. I know, it's not that easy [16:17] rsts: even in current, the package has to be stable according to pat/slackware standards [16:17] -current is kind of "take it as it comes." [16:18] perhaps Pat doesn't like packaging X, so it comes near the end of the cycle :) [16:18] I have very good experience with -current. I would simply expect that after several months the releases of gdb/xorg/kde/... would prove themselves as good enough for -current [16:18] and it isnt in Slackware -currents goal to test every release of every package. there are other distributions that provide much more lab rats for us [16:18] s/much/many [16:19] on the other hand, I have an issue on one machine with intel graphic card, where the newer xorg could help [16:19] there does seem to be a longer-than-normal delay in this cycle than with previous ones, though [16:19] and also there is unlikely to be another xorg release before next version of slackware [16:20] thrice', agreed. [16:20] rsts, well, 1) x-server 1.7 didn't do much at all for graphics, most input related stuff. 2) x-server 1.8 will almost surely be release before slackware 13.1 [16:21] rsts: have you actually confirmed that your card works better with newer xorg or just assuming it? [16:21] just assuming [16:21] for example, mesa 7.7 functions much worse for me than 7.6 on intel [16:21] this is an honest question, i dont follow xorg/intel [16:22] seems some people have had problems with Intel cards lately [16:23] isn't there a downgraded driver in /extra? [16:23] Linus (~SlackWare@a85-139-11-22.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:23] lately is around 1 & 1/2 year or so [16:23] I'm not only trying to solve my problem. as thrice' said, this time the pace in changelog seems slower. I don't frequent here, so I'm just trying whether someone has some insight. [16:23] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC300D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [16:23] not problems, they just keep improving it, so some stuff comes up. 2 steps forward, 1 step back kinda thing, I guess [16:24] ok. thanks anyway. [16:25] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:25] I have a lot of packages that start with xf86. XFree86 right? I thought XFree86 was old stuff. Why are all these X server drivers still in xf86 packages? I'm on slackware 12.2. [16:25] rsts: as dive said theres some alternative driver versions in extra/ [16:25] rsts, I'd say just wait. I don't think an email to Pat with "where is x.org?" will do anything - it'll come when Pat thinks it's perfectly packaged [16:25] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@a85-139-11-226.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [16:25] mohaa (~nome@92.49.73.82) joined ##slackware. [16:26] On my laptop intel mobility, on -current I had to use the extra/*-video-intel-7* driver [16:26] shak0, hmm ... interesting. thanks for the tip. [16:26] the video-intel-8x drivers both had issues [16:27] technopolic (~technopol@95.43.8.45) joined ##slackware. [16:27] technopolic (technopol@95.43.8.45) left ##slackware. [16:30] ah ha! build libpcap first, libnet second and netdiscover last, then scan for free wifi! 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[17:04] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-91.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:05] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [17:07] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC300D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:07] Old_Spike0 (Old_Spike@213.37.172.33.dyn.user.ono.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:09] Bairp (Yjolod@213.102.14.237) joined ##slackware. [17:09] fadein (fadein@gnu.mtveurope.org) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:12] hackeron (~hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:14] fadein (fadein@gnu.mtveurope.org) joined ##slackware. [17:14] who here can build a website with e-commerce and wants a small job and will not charge me an arm and a leg. i don;t have ime to screw with it trying to get other aspects of a business up and running. ? /msg me please [17:14] dtanner: you'll find that you'll more positive responses in other channels. [17:15] i should have thought of that. sorry guys , i just know the talent sits right here. which channels? [17:16] dtanner: web-development oriented channels. [17:16] i need something up and running fairly quickly /list -YES thanks thumbs [17:17] incognitus (~neam@212.233.209.134) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:19] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [17:20] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [17:20] notKlaatu (~klaatu@host-69-95-133-232.pit.choiceone.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:24] i dont know about web developers here but if you're looking for strippers this is the place [17:25] Action: adaptr throws a single [17:26] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:28] i don't know why anyone who's any good would discount their services, its not like you ever make that money back [17:29] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Quit: gyroscope [17:31] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:35] dErFz (znc@217.18.70.128) left irc: Changing host [17:35] dErFz (znc@unaffiliated/derfz) joined ##slackware. [17:36] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.10.117) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:37] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@64.238.225.38) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [17:38] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[17:53] hey NyteOwl [17:53] word [17:53] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:54] Nick change: dErFz -> derfz [17:54] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.224) joined ##slackware. [17:55] hihi [17:56] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.31.187) joined ##slackware. [17:57] jonsmith1982 (~jon@cpc2-donc1-0-0-cust57.barn.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:57] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [17:58] wassup guys? [17:58] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [17:59] nothing much.... [18:04] Just finished throwing out about 30-50 kg of old catalogues and product fliers [18:05] you're allowed to throw those away? [18:05] which is only logical as garbage pickup was today [18:06] Skywise: why not? [18:06] my gf has never thrown one away, i figured its cause you're not allowed [18:06] I sure as hell ain't keeping them - I'd be up to my ears in garbage in no time if I did [18:06] and now you see my dilemna [18:06] lol [18:07] if she has her own place tell her to keep them over there [18:07] too late for that [18:07] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.31.187) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [18:07] wow, cnn just said they've found someone alive under the rubble in haiti after 4 weeks [18:07] Skywise: You have a form of heat for the winters ;) [18:08] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:08] lf4: I sed to do that when I ahd a wood stove at the cottage ;) [18:08] Bad comment timing :/ [18:08] i was considering about applying as a library of congress junk mail annex [18:08]  [18:08] NyteOwl: Nice lol, by the way how are things going? [18:08] Nick change: derfz -> dErFz [18:08] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:09] not bad. I'll continue not bad if the new england weather misses us :) [18:09] i'm in the mid atlantic, we just got hit and are getting hit again tomorrow [18:10] some places got over 30" [18:10] It's unsually warm here in the midwest. [18:11] its el nino [18:11] theres a ridge in the west and a trough in the east [18:12] I've got a green lawn and have had one since the second week in Jnaoary - I'd like to keep it that way :) [18:12] so warm air is moving up thru the central praries and then mixing with cold canadian air [18:12] Guys, how can I download from SVN repository? [18:12] you just wanna login anonymously [18:13] there should be a faq on the site abou it [18:24] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:25] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. 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[19:48] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:49] Ok thanks I'll keep an eye out [19:50] bbiab [19:50] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: Molon Labe [19:52] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-254-084.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:52] lolwut (1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:53] Urchlay. check that [19:56] tuxdev_ (~tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:01] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [20:02] macavity (~macavity@212088073001.static.sonofon.dk) joined ##slackware. [20:02] Does anyone know why control c wouldn't be properly sent over a serial connection? [20:03] I'm connected to an embedded device over a serial port and I need to hit control c to stop the boot process but it doesn't work. [20:03] I've tried via telnet and via minicom [20:03] antiwire: straight out of my ass: it might have something to do with cooked vs uncooked mode [20:04] in uncooked mode it sends the ctrl and the c as two different chars [20:04] what's the embedded device running? In most (all?) Linux distros, control-C doesn't work during boot, maybe whatever you're dealing with works the same way? [20:04] redboot [20:05] but "ctrl-c" is ascii for "break" iirc [20:05] eh, nah, there's no separate "control" character [20:05] ctrl-C is just ASCII code 3, it's up to the remote system to decide what (if anything) to do about it [20:06] I have two choices for access; serial or network via telnet on port 9000. Either method gets me to the point of redboot showing me the prompt to hit control C but it doesn't work. [20:06] i'll take your word over mine.. its been ages since i read up on terminal programming [20:07] err, hm. ^C normally gets sent over telnet just fine, nothing special required [20:08] Doesn't work from Konsole or from VT6 [20:08] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:08] just for testing purposes, you could enable telnetd on your machine, "telnet localhost", log in, run some program, and hit ^C to see if it aborts the program [20:09] if not, then something's screwed up for sure (but I betcha anything it works) [20:09] can you turn echo on to see whats getting sent? [20:10] Urchlay: I started telnetd on my system an telnet'd to it and logged in. control c just gives me a prompt, over and over [20:11] I hit control c, I get a newline with a prompt [20:11] I wish to list all files that has been created on 02-09 [20:11] how can do that with ls ? [20:12] antiwire: that's the same thing control-C does when you're sitting at a regular (non-telnet) prompt, too. Try "sleep 100", then hit ^C [20:12] kills sleep [20:12] antiwire: OK, then ^C is getting sent out correctly by the telnet client (as expected) [20:13] v4nelle (~van@79.103.135.146.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:14] mac-: are all the files in the same directory? you could try something like "ls -l|grep 02-09"... the proper way to do it would be with "find" [20:14] omfg. [20:14] it was my cable [20:14] your serial cable? [20:14] yeah [20:14] tx was faulty [20:14] antiwire: Don't you know the rule? Always check the physical first. ;) [20:14] was your telnet session going over the serial cable too? [20:14] Urchlay: and when wish to copy that files then ? can do it with | pipe ? [20:14] Urchlay: No, but the serial connection works now that I tested my cable [20:15] andarius (~andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:15] greetings and salutations [20:15] mac-: in that case, you need "find" for sure, and either its -exec option or a pipe, yes [20:16] actually I don't think find has an option that exactly does what you want [20:16] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 3814, sources date: 20091222, built on: 2010-01-09 17:48:42 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [20:17] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:18] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [20:19] there's a -newer option (can be used to find files newer than some other file), but no -older [20:19] wait, I'm being dumb, you can invert the sense of the test with ! [20:20] Arno[Slack]`Work (~adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:20] Action: macavity dings [20:20] Urchlay: thank you :-) [20:20] my find-fu is improving quite a bit these days [20:23] mkdir a ; cd a ; touch -d 20090101 foo ; touch -d 20100101 bar ; touch baz ; find . -newer foo -a \! -newer baz [20:23] that'll find bar (whose date is between the dates of foo and baz), but it also finds baz (because baz isn't older than itself) [20:24] er, isn't newer than itself I mean. Anyway, if the reference files aren't in the path you're searching, it's not a problem [20:25] and if the refference file is, stick it in a var, and grep -V $var the output [20:26] to find files created on a particular date, you use touch to create a file whose timestamp is 23:59:59 on the day before the one you care about, and another that's 00:00:00 on the day after, I think [20:28] touch -d '20091231 23:59:59' /tmp/foo # like so [20:29] pprkut: news: a new version of acpica is out :P [20:33] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:34] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [20:34] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:36] anyone in here ever use qemu to play ms-dos games? [20:36] alicephilippa (~alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [20:36] Urchlay: i always use dosbox [20:36] alicephilippa (alice@89.194.133.32) joined ##slackware. [20:36] yeah, dosbox works, just wondering if I could expect better performance with qemu + kqemu [20:37] (currently I can't tell, because the game I want to run dies with a "divide overflow" error in qemu, though the same exe runs fine in dosbox) [20:40] DOSBox is probably your best bet for old DOS games [20:41] playing the game "Blood", it runs fine, I've been trying to tweak dosbox.conf to get the framerate higher [20:41] thought I'd try a different emulator [20:41] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [20:43] DOSBox is designed from the ground up to run DOS games and nothing else. That said, BUILD engine games do give it a fair bit of grief. Try switching to the "dynamic" CPU core and winding the cycles up as high as your machine can realistically handle. Also make sure you're running the latest version of DOSBox, performance got a boost around .70 or so [20:43] yeah, I've done all that :( [20:43] JimBob42 (nobody@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [20:44] there's a port of Blood to one of the Quake engines (Transfusion), but it's multiplayer-only (I wanted to play through the single player game) [20:45] BUILD's a funny engine, it's got all kinds of little problems that never used to show up on hte original hardware but are all starting to come out of the woodwork now [20:45] ...and there are a couple modern ports of the Build engine (eduke32 for one), but none of them support Blood because it uses a highly modified build engine [20:45] (to which the modified sources were never released) [20:47] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [20:49] Not only was the source released for Duke, but it was always the most popular of the build games. Shadow Warrior had its sourced released too, but hasn't generated anywhere near as much interest as Duke 3D. [20:50] yah, I once managed to build jfsw and actually play Shadow Warrior on Slackware [20:51] jfsw is one of only about 2 source ports for SW and it hasn't been updated in years [20:54] what sucks is the freecraft thing...freecraft was a great engine...too bad blizzard entertainment went nuts [20:54] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:55] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:58] yeah [20:59] I once got original (non-battle.net) warcraft II multiplayer working in dosbox, but the guy I was playing against was too annoying to play with [20:59] LSD`: what's the other SW port called? [21:00] SWP, but it may just be WIndows-only [21:00] http://fps.maros.pri.ee/index.php?event=554 [21:01] hmm, apparently that one's normally built for windows with mingw [21:03] doesn't compile as-is on linux... his Makefile has a target for OSX, so I suppose it ought to be possible to mangle it into compiling on Linux [21:03] deadlock (~no_uid@unaffiliated/deadlock) joined ##slackware. [21:04] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [21:05] ugh, the code's nowhere near clean. Assumes int and pointer will be the same size (they're not, on x86_64) [21:05] then it is not code.. it is just dirty hacks :P [21:05] macavity: That describes BUILD down to a tea :P [21:06] well, the original Build engine source was released in exactly that condition [21:07] LSD`: what about the icculus.org sw source port? that the same thing as jfsw? [21:08] I'd actually forgoten about that one, I think jfsw may have grown out of it but I really can't remember [21:09] heh. The swp source has an actual syntax error (as in, completely invalid line of source code), I suppose the guy's binaries aren't built from the source he provides because there's no way anyone could compile it with any compiler, as-is [21:09] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:10] #ifdef OTHER_PEOPLE flknaoing(); #endif [21:11] it's like... "DoSomeFunction(stuff);", then about 30 spaces, and the number 4 [21:11] O_o [21:13] OK, I got it to compile, but it fails to link [21:13] Urchlay: try threatening it with a pointy stick [21:14] i have some old dos games from the win9x era, it seems neither wine or dosbox will run them [21:14] like what? [21:14] what happened here is that you can either pick SDL or directx for the target, and the guy's modifications are for the directx target, but he modified a bunch of common code so that it assumes directx [21:15] Full Throttle and Harley Davidson Race Across America [21:15] basically, this is 100% garbage as far as Linux is concerned. /me deletes it [21:15] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [21:17] Bairp (Yjolod@213.102.14.237) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [21:17] they are pirated copies my sister burnt to CDr back in the late 1990's [21:17] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.247.83) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:20] do they work on actual dos/windows machines? (or have you got a way to even test?) [21:21] i have not played them in about 10 years [21:22] they mount in linux, i copied one to ~/ [21:22] one would not copy over, could be corrupted data on the disk [21:22] weckwar (~weckwar@189.4.112.11) joined ##slackware. [21:23] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:24] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_Throttle_%281995_video_game%29 [21:24] Full Throttle runs in Scummvm, doesn't it? [21:25] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [21:27] john_dee (~id@95-29-144-151.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [21:28] http://www.scummvm.org/compatibility/SVN/ft/ <- apparently. I love the level of confidence they have though: "No known issues, game is completeable(sic)" but oinly rate it as 90% compatible [21:32] MrJacks0n (Mr@173-86-61-114.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Quit: Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug. [21:35] i guess wine does not emulate MS-DOS [21:35] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:36] Pig_Pen: not really, no [21:37] emma (~em@cpe-72-225-241-65.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[21:50] meatbun: because 192.168.x.x are internal IP adresses [21:51] meatbun: what happens is that the school has one external IP adress, and then on your school LAN you get assigned an internal adress wich the gateway does Network Adress Translation on (NAT, or "masqurading" in linux paleur) [21:52] LordValiumSleeps (~chase@d-65-175-209-233.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:52] LordValiumSleeps (chase@d-65-175-209-233.cpe.metrocast.net) left ##slackware ("Penguins and Gnomes are having wars in my brain."). [21:53] mirmillo (axius@friedman.ivoltaire.org) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:53] mirmillo (axius@friedman.ivoltaire.org) joined ##slackware. [21:53] dhabyx (~dhabyx@18.8.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [21:53] dhabyx (~dhabyx@18.8.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Changing host [21:53] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [21:54] macavity: no.... i don't think that's it [21:55] you dont have to think... i know [21:55] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.247.83) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:55] look up NAT on wikipedia [21:55] look up "list of internal IP adress ranges" on google [21:56] 10.0.x.x and 192.168.x.x are reserved [21:57] xsamurai (~fahad@69.43.199.101) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:59] xsamurai (~fahad@69.43.199.101) joined ##slackware. [22:01] my xp machine is on 192.168.1.10; and use dns on 128.123.123.123 for college 1, and 129.123.123.123 for college #2. it's a fake ip, but u get the idea [22:01] macavity: no. not private [22:01] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:01] ah, i read your initial remark as "dns server is on the 192.168.x.x segment" [22:02] when i use college #2 dns. it resolved google.com for me. however, when i use college #1 dns, i can only browse stuff under my college #1's website [22:02] macavity: sorry [22:02] then the 128 one is the master DNS for your collage's domain name [22:03] try "dig your-collage.fubar" [22:03] and you should see the athorative response from 128.123.123.123 [22:05] mayday-jay (~mayday_ja@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [22:05] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:06] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:06] DNS servers don't have to be recursive [22:07] probably one of those servers, if you query something not in your college's domain, it doesn't "recurse" (doesn't do the lookup for you) [22:07] Urchlay: at home the DNS does not do recursion. but at school it does recursion. [22:08] macavity: i ve already tried dig [22:08] mayday_jay (~mayday_ja@control-console.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:09] well, it's entirely possible to set up a DNS server so it'll only do recursive lookups for certain clients (e.g. ones in its own IP block), but will still do non-recursive for others [22:10] at home, you probably want to use your home ISP's DNS servers (unless they're horribly broken or stay down a lot) [22:14] Urchlay: it appears my school dns do it's own block and also a totally different block. that's what i found out so far [22:15] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [22:15] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:15] andarius (~andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: some things are just better left unsaid. others you should scream out [22:15] meatbun: can you explain what your end goal is? (why you're trying to use your school's DNS server, I mean, instead of your ISP's?) [22:16] i ll draw a topology to better explain... next time [22:16] Urchlay: my ISP's is at a coffee shop. so i want a good dns. one i can trust [22:17] Action: Delahunt ponders: to upgrade onboard 4gb ssd miniPCIe to 16gb or 32gb or 64gb [22:17] meatbun: try 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 [22:17] meatbun: you could run your own local caching DNS server [22:17] GooseYArd: i know about that trick [22:17] those are googles public anycast resolvers [22:18] I just run dnscache [22:20] dunix (~dguitar@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:20] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [22:20] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [22:21] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [22:22] meatbun (~m3eat8un3@cpe-98-155-141-248.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:22] are you worried that the coffee shop's DNS servers are eeeevil? or is it a case of not being able to use their DNS servers because you don't want to pay them for access? [22:22] blah, nm [22:23] Action: Delahunt ponders: to upgrade onboard 4gb ssd miniPCIe to 16gb or 32gb or 64gb? [22:23] deja vu. [22:25] I wish I could get rid of the 4GB SSD in my netbook, it would make OS selection a lot easier [22:25] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [22:25] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-61-114.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:27] fs_ (~fs@60-234-232-70.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [22:27] slackwarebob (~bobby@adsl-76-249-231-227.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:30] LSD`, it's called newegg bro [22:30] search for mini PCIe ssd [22:30] Delahunt: no, it's called "solder" [22:30] yours was one of those that was soldered in? [22:32] yeah, 4GB soldered, 8GB in a mini PCIe slot. I know I can get larger Mini PCIe cards, but I hate the idea of the 4GB sitting around doing nothing nor am I sure how much that would futz with the boot order [22:33] it's called if you trim down / you can easily fit it into 4gb [22:34] ALL i have is 4gb and it works out [22:35] the xandros that comes with the eee is bloated anyways; slackware works great on them [22:35] and like said, if you trim ... [22:35] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:36] LSD`: split the 4GB in 3/1, use the 1 for swap, split the 8 in 3/5, make a raid0 of the two 3GB partitions, use the remaining 5 for /home [22:36] /dev/sda2 9.3G 2.7G 6.7G 29% / with KDE4, even ;) [22:36] or just stick 'em on an LVM and use 'em as one big drive [22:37] i wouldn't run kde on an eee pc, not the way slack 13's kde runs [22:37] that too.. but a raid0 on two SSDs is wicket :P [22:37] kde needs to be reminded wtf "stable" means [22:37] alienBOB runs kde4 on his without any trouble [22:37] i dont think you can actually raid0 ssds can you? (doesn't it lose its meaning/concept?) [22:37] I think I have / on the 4GB and /usr (this was before I realised Linux basically ignores /usr), /home and swap on the 8GB but I plan on rethinking that if I can ever be bothered to reformat it [22:38] yeah he says he does but i value my family time lol [22:38] Delahunt: you can treat them as any other disk [22:38] LSD`: ignores /usr? [22:38] macavity, but in theory there should be little to no speed difference ssd raid 0 because there are no real stripes [22:39] bleh whatever [22:39] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Atheism is a non-prophet organization. George Carlin [22:39] macavity: I'm used to FreeBSD where pretty much everything winds up in there [22:39] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:39] Action: Delahunt notes that this is ##slackware [22:40] antiwire (antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("She talks to angels, says they call her out by name."). [22:41] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:41] LSD`: ok.. i have 4.5GB in /usr [22:41] out of 7.4 [22:41] w00h00, got jfsw to compile & run on slack 13 [22:41] geez.. i think i need to clear out /tmp again :P [22:42] 7.4 ?! [22:43] ok, i have have 39 SBo packages [22:43] including openoffice :P [22:43] I trim alot too, I guess [22:45] ok, du -sh /* takes some time :P [22:48] yeah [22:49] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:54] Delahunt: http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=318&Itemid=60&limit=1&limitstart=7 [22:54] SSD raid0 kicks ass [22:55] alice (~alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:55] Action: invictus flips macavity the bird in healousy [22:56] s/healousy/jealousy [22:56] invictus: oh, i dont have that :-) [22:56] is it possible to get X forwarding over ssh if the client computer doesn't have XForward yes set in /etc/ssh/ssh_config ? [22:56] invictus: it was a response to Delahunt's confucious remark about "real stripes" whatever that meant [22:56] macavity: ah just bounced in and assumed :) well i guess we both can be in envy to whom *does* have it [22:57] oh ok [22:57] yes.. and those are 120GB drives :-/ [22:57] alicephilippa (alice@89.194.133.32) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [22:57] not bad [22:57] macavity, i still doubt their validity but oh well [22:57] 240GB at half a gig per second [22:58] Delahunt: you doubt the validity of anything you didnt invent ;-) [22:58] at that point i wonder if the controller to the ssd is emulating a physical disk but i am not sure [22:58] no, i don't doubt the validity of IRC 8-) [22:58] which you didnt invent :P [22:59] Action: invictus sighs [happily]... back to some C :) [22:59] jescis (1000@adsl-93-96-81.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: I'll be going off line for at least a year or more... I'll be back then... see ya'll :-) [22:59] the point is not "emulating a physical disk".. it is "cut file in peices and put the even chunks on one, and the odd chunks on the other" [22:59] pretty simple [22:59] yeah really [23:00] and here we see more than a scaling of 100% which is to be expected.. we have no access time, and the effective disk cache just doubled [23:00] the power of io :) [23:00] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:00] allocations, insertions and removals [23:00] oh boy [23:02] on SSD you can even set the block size to 2KB (that is, 2x1KB) and not have your performance hit at all.. but you wont waste any space at all [23:02] *drooool* :P [23:02] the asian man says: implessive [23:02] j/k back to C [23:02] not just the asian man :P [23:03] happy hacking [23:03] cheers, you too mac [23:04] aldo (~aldo@189.188.86.30) joined ##slackware. [23:08] slackwarebob (~bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. 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