[00:00] my x never gets y just because z did [00:00] you could declare x to get y when z got y if you wanted to. then it would [00:01] jescis: but yeah. that is true [00:01] aWNED, oss and alsa are two different sound systems. Also not always compatible with each other. ;-) [00:01] jescis: thats what i thought, couldnt come up with the words. [00:01] redtricycle: disable oss and try using strictly alsa [00:02] no problem ^.^ [00:02] Zordrak: awesome [00:02] jescis: ty ;) delayed but well dued [00:02] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-236-83.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left ##slackware. [00:02] I'm no secretary ;-) [00:02] haha [00:03] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-236-83.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [00:04] aWNED, typing propper would be faster if practiced. But I'm comfortable with psudo hen pecking ;-) [00:05] smokeybandit (i=cfed408e@gateway/web/freenode/x-ehwxzjtyupaduuyg) joined ##slackware. [00:05] jescis: but touch typing is just melodic on a Model M.. hen pecking.. not so much [00:05] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:06] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-125-196-86.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:06] da hell, is there a flash plugin that works with everything? [00:06] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-125-196-86.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:07] turkeyshoot: flash-plugin? [00:07] aWNED, what I meant was; some other parent gives GTA to their 14 year old child and I have to give my son a copy to make him not fall out of the loop? that's dumb and bad parenting imho >.> [00:08] aWNED, yeah, but dont worry, nothing is working [00:08] jescis: i see. that is also very true. although GTA 1 and 2 are free online so if your son really wanted to not fall out of the loop he could stop standing around with his dick in his hand and get it hehe [00:08] aWNED, well audio is skipping [00:08] turkeyshoot, you can find it on slackbuilds.org if nothing else ;-) [00:08] turkeyshoot: is that it? are you doing fullscreen? [00:09] i had it working, then updated for a site, and now audio skips, no not full [00:09] turkeyshoot: http://xkcd.com/619/ [00:10] turkeyshoot: sounds like rebuild time [00:10] lol [00:10] aWNED, GTA = anyone of the commercially available one for PS2 and such. :-) [00:11] Besides it was an example ^.^ [00:12] jescis: yeah.. just had to point that out for my own maniacle reasons [00:12] lee___ (n=lee__@ip70-191-240-145.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] hehe, very well then :-) [00:13] Nick change: lee___ -> lee_ [00:13] alright, im off, its late here on the east coast and i dont have any real excuse to deprive myself of sleep tonight. goodbye everyone [00:13] aWNED (n=everest@adsl-177-110-202.gsp.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [00:13] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:13] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:14] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:14] dircolors -b '$HOME/dircolors.txt' #should import colors defined by dircolors.txt right? [00:17] gdv (n=wbb@adsl152-235.ath.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [00:19] Nick change: jescis -> jescis|zZzZ [00:21] fxer (n=fxer@c80-216-143-115.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:22] turkeyshoot (n=raiden@S0106001cdfd0ecff.dr.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:23] redtricy1le (n=redtricy@adsl-68-125-196-86.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:24] Okay, sound fixed. I needed to add the following to /etc/modprobe.d/sound: "options snd-hda-intel model=hp-dv5 enable_msi=1 [00:24] RedSocrates (n=RedSocra@cpe-69-207-175-250.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [00:24] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-125-196-86.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:27] i sjut finished 2001:a space oddessy and i didn't understand much of it but for soem strange reason i sat here for 2hours and watched it [00:27] and i liked it i jsut didn't fully understand it [00:27] i just watched the empire strikes back [00:28] toastytoast: great movie [00:28] good piece of sf [00:28] yeah liek is aid i liked it but i dind't understand some parts of it :( [00:28] i said* [00:28] you mean because of language or the message [00:29] well jsut some parts of i think could have been clarified more liek when dave disabled hal it skipped right to him leaveing the ship and going on that trippy joury to that room [00:30] did he simply reboot hal or did he keep hal disabled? [00:31] siply reboot hal. [00:31] i see jsut somehtings made my brain hurt but i still liked it [00:32] it mad eme think more than msot other movies which is another thing i liked about it [00:32] but i still didn't fully understand it all [00:32] i wekle remember the ending of it [00:32] he was in a room were he got older but he saw himself get older [00:33] what was the course of main characters last trip [00:33] I was satisfied with my level of misunderstanding after watching it [00:33] it ended with a baby in a bubble floating above earth [00:33] i thought time travel? because i didn't see the space station [00:33] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-22-196.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:34] anyway, he reborn, oooh he flew into some kind of portal or something [00:34] meanign he either went back in time before it was there and regressed to a baby or he regressed to a baby and went forward in time to were the spacestationw as no longer there [00:34] or it mighjt have been a different planet? [00:35] anyway the monolith made hal naughty [00:35] same with apes [00:35] you saying naughty reminds me of silent night bloddy ngiht [00:35] maciuszek (n=maciusze@i209-195-73-222.cia.com) left irc: "Leaving" [00:36] whihc i watched the first one alst night and the second tonight and even tho the second wasn't that good it wasn't bad for a movie with limited budget [00:36] or was it an error in it's program [00:36] troy (n=quassel@173.13.86.245) joined ##slackware. [00:36] my friends who ahve seen think ti was soemthing with his programming [00:36] thats what you get for installing windows on a super computer [00:36] :p [00:37] because he decided that mission is the prior, because of humans it cant be complete, so he decided to eliminate human even if the accomplishment of their mission was impossible [00:38] yeah but i thougth the windows pun was atleast a little clever [00:38] hey guys - how are the 4.3.3 packages in -current? any ill effects? [00:38] i am pretty sure he killed the humans becase he knew the two plannen on disabling him [00:39] that's also slighly possible becouise he couldnt survive without them [00:39] i think it was mroe self preservation and he jsutified it by saying the mission couldn't be completed with humans becasue of them [00:39] ofc he could make a suicidal revange [00:40] goddamn humans :s [00:40] troy: idk about the 4.3.3 packages i don'tsue kde at all anymore [00:40] Action: toastytoast thinks that is what troy meant by 4.3.3 [00:40] toastytoast: yes, 'tis what I meant :) however reply not the most helpful :P [00:41] yeah but its better than no reply ;) [00:41] stipd ai [00:41] died in a loop of sorrow [00:41] well, poor ai even [00:42] toastytoast: well, that depends - it doesn't help answer my question, but it allows me a way to keep bumping the question until someone sees it :P [00:42] anyone watching UFC? [00:42] armenian guy is fighting now [00:42] smokeybandit (i=cfed408e@gateway/web/freenode/x-ehwxzjtyupaduuyg) left ##slackware. [00:42] Action: troy wonders if vbatts is awake - he probably made those packages :P [00:42] so troy i supose depending on how you look at it is a good thing [00:43] toastytoast: right :) [00:43] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@62-47-138-242.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [00:44] fraktil (n=fraktil@96.248.230.121) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:44] toastytoast: no the packages in -current are Pat's [00:44] toastytoast: keeping human safe would guarantee him a lot of next runs [00:44] BP{k}: thanks :) [00:45] Action: toastytoast wonders if lxde will ever be part of slackware [00:45] so an error. [00:45] BP{k}: yeah it wasn't me asking [00:45] well winter there was a big flashing red sign that read computer error on it before he killed the three people in hibernation [00:45] troy: I am using kde 4.3.3 with -current and haven't experienced any issues. [00:46] does k3b work again? [00:46] troy: I haven't played with 4.3.3 yet . but the 4.3.2 that Pat released was fine. Biggest problem was people forgetting to install the oxygen-icons that's now in a seperate package [00:46] k3b didn't work it froze near the end of burniong a dvd [00:46] atleast for me [00:46] same here [00:46] in both the 64bit and 32 bit version [00:46] but now i just use cli tools [00:46] toastytoast: there's a different version of it in -current though. [00:47] the -current version works for me on 13.0 [00:47] yeah does it work again? [00:47] toastytoast: It has for me, yes. [00:47] i've been useing cdrecord wich is nice [00:48] I've been meaning to ask this - is there a way to update -current where it'll also remove packages that have been Removed from the server? [00:48] so I don't have to do that manually? [00:49] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:49] toastytoast: That's what k3b uses behind the scenes too, iirc. [00:49] Action: toastytoast wonders if there is a way to have lxde use fluxbox instead of openbox [00:49] toastytoast: if they both implement the NETWM spec, then it should work [00:49] Nick change: jescis|zZzZ -> jescis [00:49] yeah i knew it called it but it still frove when burning dvds for some reason [00:49] toastytoast: hell, you could use openbox instead of kwin in KDE :P [00:50] froze* [00:50] toastytoast: http://slackwaregallery.org/displayimage.php?album=6&pos=0 [00:50] troy: you might like to look into slackpkg .. which cvomes with slackware. [00:51] toastytoast: I've always had good luck with k3b, aside from the occasional bad disc which threw errors. [00:51] BP{k}: I use slackpkg - it upgrades things nicely, just doesn't seem to look after Added/Removed packages... [00:51] unless I'm missing a command line switch or something [00:51] toastytoast, unlike windows or other propriatary OS anything can be accomplished by linux, especially with greater ease ;-) [00:51] anyway, shutting down X to do KDE update - weird things happen if I update while KDE is running :P [00:51] troy: slackpkg clean-system (just be careful with that so it doesn't remove your installed apps) [00:52] BP{k}: ah - useful :) I keep my self-made packages in a handy directly for easy reinstallation, so I'm prepared :) [00:52] Action: troy had to install libpam and libkrb5 the other day to get some nasa software to run - yuck [00:52] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-57-79.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [00:52] brb [00:52] troy: same here, I keep everything that I build myself. :) [00:52] troy: ew :) [00:53] HaTeeee (n=root@201-42-8-65.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:53] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:53] nite [00:55] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-54.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:56] Nick change: jescis -> jescis|zZzZ [00:56] no one has experience with dircolors? [00:56] lee_.. can u read my msgs? [00:57] HaTeeee: didn' t see it .. must have missed it. [00:57] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host188-64-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [00:57] nope..that was the first one... [00:57] = [00:57] =) [00:57] darylc (n=darylc@166.205.133.91) joined ##slackware. [00:57] i was just checking... cuz i thought my messages weren`t being sent! [00:58] HaTeeee: know the feeling .. [00:59] i am talking on Asterisk.. but they just ignore my message... so i thought it could be some kind of moderation you know! [01:00] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:00] or they just don't know the answer. [01:01] troy: As for dealing with added packages: slackpkg install-new should do the trick. :) [01:02] hmm.. perhaps.. but i don`t think so... it is such a basic question... i am not being able to compile the first component of asterisk.. libpri... [01:02] and why not? [01:03] that`s a good question.... [01:03] and that is not a question , but a statement. ;) [01:03] just by calling make i get erros like this [01:03] gcc -Wall -Werror -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -g -fPIC -MD -MT copy_string.o -MF .copy_string.o.d -MP -c -o copy_string.o copy_string.c [01:03] rhys (n=srees@c-67-176-236-166.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:03] goddevening [01:03] cannot interpret it properly once i am not only new to asterisk, but also to linux... [01:04] fraktil (n=fraktil@pool-96-248-230-121.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:04] habaneros (n=habanero@147.252.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:04] HaTeeee: I'm not new to linux and I still use a contractor to manage/install asterisk. [01:04] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:05] asterisk is on SBo. [01:05] it`s weird because i am following instructions that comes with it... [01:05] darylc (n=darylc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) left irc: "Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi" [01:05] SBo? [01:05] slackbuilds.org [01:05] rhys: ^^ [01:05] oh, i see... [01:05] problem is that errors output are not understandable at all! [01:05] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/network/asterisk/ [01:05] darylc (n=darylc@166.205.133.91) joined ##slackware. [01:06] HaTeeee: its not a simple system. whats the error? [01:06] do you have a pri card? [01:06] HaTeeee: well here's a lesson .. 1) save your output and put it on a site like http://pastebin.com and give us the link [01:06] antiwire, not yet.. is is necessary to be plugged before compiling it? [01:06] HaTeeee: no. [01:07] libpri builds for me on a system without a pri card [01:07] T1 cards are rather expensive and have seperate kernel drivers as I understand. [01:07] my point was that you might not even need libpri [01:07] if you don't have a pri adapter you don't need libpri [01:07] zaptel, right? [01:07] HaTeeee: pretty sure. [01:08] yeah.. it has changed its name by the way... it is no longer called Zaptel... [01:08] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [01:08] but anyway... here is make output log http://pastebin.com/mb853fda [01:09] like i said, we use a contracter. Asteria SGI does our asterisk work, though we have to run multiple servers across multiple locations using dundi with multiple PRI's, Analog lines, and dialer systems. [01:09] you know that a pri card is different than an fxs/fxo card? [01:09] sure... [01:09] antiwire: how? [01:09] unless you know you will have voice t1 you don't need to worry about pri [01:09] i am gonna use a pri card! [01:09] ok [01:09] but i still havent bought it [01:09] are fxs/fxo the analog cards? POTS lines? [01:09] rhys: fxs/fxo is pots [01:09] pri is not pots [01:10] pri is not pots of course. its a modfied t1 where there is a single data channel as opposed to each channel sending control. [01:10] yeah.. and libpri handles TDM over it! [01:10] you have a d channel for control and voice channels [01:11] though the pri/t1 cards can do multiple types of t1/pri lines? I know they need the raw config from our ISP to set it up [01:11] yeap... [01:11] you need to know the encodings and timing settings [01:11] yes.. u`re right [01:11] but they provide it once u contract the service! [01:12] HaTeeee: anyway, libpri builts fine on my system using the SBo scripts and I don't even have a pri adapter [01:12] builds* [01:12] hmm... i`ll have a look at that SBscrits... [01:13] yea. our new dialer is a master with 2 slaves, each with a 4 port t1 card. 2 pri's are hard and 2 are IP PRIs piped to an adtran via a data t1, then converted to pri. which is stupid, but we are waiting for our ISP to get true SIP trunking. [01:13] but.. what is it after all? [01:13] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/libpri/ and you probably best start reading http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ and http://slackbuilds.org/faq/ [01:14] seems so dumb to pipe a PRI in via packets and then convert it to a PRI for 5 feet in the rack from the adtrain router to the asterisk T1 card. Those cards and that router are not cheap. [01:14] HaTeeee: they are shell scripts that hold all the commands to extract the source, configure and compile it and make a slackware package for you install, which make software maintenance easier. [01:14] darylc (n=darylc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) left irc: "Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi" [01:14] BP, i see... but inside it i think it still calls "make", right? [01:15] If I had a PRI line I would take it directly from the NI to my phone server [01:15] HaTeeee: yes. [01:15] on Slackware-current Slackware package /tmp/libpri-1.4.10.2-i486-1_SBo.tgz created. [01:15] it builds fine [01:16] hm.. so, some time it will call make to build libipri... and probally i`ll get the same erros i am getting now... [01:16] i don`t know.. perhaps libpri needs some other dependency that is not being mentioned on README [01:16] HaTeeee: so read the build script and figure it out... [01:16] HaTeeee: I don't see anny problem with the paste you are showing. [01:16] antiwire: its much easier to have a 5-20Mbit ethernet drop into the perimiter Juniper beast of a router and do SIP trunking. PRI cards cost us like 1200$ a pop. [01:16] i wish i could... as i said, i am new to linux at all... shell scripts are so new to me! [01:17] but i`ll have a deeper look at it [01:17] i think that will be the only way to figure it out! [01:17] SIP and PRIs alone both have draw backs [01:18] usually when we deploy a phone system we port client numbers to a pri and also suggest they setup a sip tunnel [01:18] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:18] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:18] why do they both have drawbacks? [01:18] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:18] moooooooo [01:19] sip is cheaper to use for internal comm between sites but PRI is more stable [01:19] HaTeeee: are you concerned about the -Werrors in those lines? [01:19] yeah... [01:19] aren`t they errors? [01:19] antiwire: define more stable? its still a data leased line coming in. we just can run all our lease lines as data and use QoS [01:19] those are not errors ... but gcc flags [01:20] habaneros (n=habanero@147.252.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:20] hmm... i found it to be strange,.. really... but by the other hand.. i didn`t get any success message... [01:20] we are already paying for 10k for the router and PIMs plus 1k/year for same day support. why not just route it over the same infrastructure? [01:20] no one in here has used dircolors successfully? [01:20] lee_: easy. eval $(dircolors -b) in ~/.bashrc [01:20] done [01:20] HaTeeee: -Werror as per gcc(1) turns all warnings that gcc may show into full blown errors [01:21] rhys: I'm not going to argue with you. I see plenty of issues with SIP sets in the real world. [01:21] setups [01:21] rhys: except I can't get it to read the values from the file included in the commandline [01:21] Like I said, we recommend customers to have a mix of SIP and PRI [01:21] antiwire: i'm not arguing, but asking. I truely don't know. our ISP gets SIP in feb, we are going to be part of the beta test for it because its so much cheaper. [01:23] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [01:23] it's cheaper but you deal with all of the SIP idiosyncrasies that happen between device and service vendors as well as the internet factor [01:23] antiwire: we are already going to have a dundi mesh network between multiple sites to do our phone systems. so if one goes down, a quick call with predetermined failover procedures will change the phone number routing around, and we will be back up. [01:23] antiwire: thats why our ISP is so late rolling it out. and its not internet at least, they are still leased lines. [01:24] we even see issues with some MPLS setups [01:24] rhys: eval 'dircolors -b $HOME/dir_colors' #does not reflect the values from within dir_colors [01:24] rhys, what line do you guys run it off [01:24] antiwire: right. MPLS. any examples i should look for? [01:24] low end broadband or high end [01:24] BP.... hey dude.. u were right.. those were not error messages.. it did compile successfully... [01:24] =) [01:25] that's what makes me crazy, it *should* be simple. [01:25] HaTeeee: that happends a lot (me being right, that is) [01:25] hehe [01:25] one example; something..somewhere was fragmenting jumbo frames and the receiving end was not reassembling them correctly. [01:25] Axius (n=fd@92.82.72.213) joined ##slackware. [01:25] jeev: each site has a 3-10mbit internet connection through one ISP, then a MPLS mesh with another ISP, and then a mix of PRI lines through various ISPs. We want to do SIP trunking through the MPLS provider. [01:26] stupid nhaters [01:26] we'd see a full jumbo frame leave and 6 fragments arrive on the other end [01:26] oh, i dont know much about MPLS [01:26] looks to be almost like a tunnel [01:26] rhys, why dont you just SIP to your PRI lines [01:26] you wanna dump PRI ? [01:27] antiwire: i believe i have already run into this problem. we do a sip trunk from CT to IL, as we won't pay for PRI's in CT as they are too small. pfsense has packet scrubbing, which will NOT route traffic that has an improperly set "do not fragment" flag, which apparently asterisk does wrong. [01:27] Shingoshi (n=shingosh@c-24-21-15-58.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:27] rhys, use freeswitch. asterisk blows ass [01:27] i had to disable it to get sound both ways. [01:27] lee add it to .bash_profile or source .bashrc from .bash_profile [01:27] Shingoshi (n=shingosh@c-24-21-15-58.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:27] rhys, if you care.. http://x.jeev.net/diag.jpg s/asterisk/freeswitch [01:27] i never updated that image [01:27] I guess leave it to me to use something outside of standard use and complicate things. [01:28] lee_: scroll up [01:28] murderers [01:28] Rat409: did that .. [01:28] jeev: do freeswitch and asterisk interoperate? [01:28] huh wors for me [01:28] magically everything decided to work now... hjeheheheh [01:29] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) joined ##slackware. [01:29] works* [01:29] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) left ##slackware. [01:29] Rat409: dircolors works with default values, but I can't get it to read in values defined within seperate file. [01:29] yea they do [01:30] DTMF was better for me on freeswitch, everything else became awesome on freeswitch [01:30] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-54.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:30] jeev: i may look into that after a good while, the problem is right now I'm rebuilding a 6 site network across the country, by myself, from the wiring up. [01:30] ahh [01:31] :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) [01:31] we have a contractor with a GUI ontop of asterisk who does the whole thing, and until i have time to breathe, i won't touch it [01:31] turkeyshoot (n=raiden@S0106001cdfd0ecff.dr.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:31] Guest28047 (n=si@60-242-50-107.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:31] nasty [01:31] we do lots and lots of stuff, with non trivial amounts of money going into 100% uptime IVRs for payment. [01:31] freeswitch is xml config and stuff [01:32] i've got to redo some of my config [01:32] jeev: the asteria people, our contractors have even told me asterisk in many ways is a bitch. I've hit alot of its bugs. but we are using so much of it...tis the way it goes. [01:32] :/ [01:33] jesus .. it's the ticks [01:33] queues in asterisk are just wrong. our GUI litterly has a setting marked "BIG RED BUTTON" to restart queues, kicking out all users if you need to change things. [01:33] ahh, i've never messed with queues [01:34] learned that yesterday after our "idea guy" CTO decided to setup a new queue for a new campaign, with a different and buggy routing algorithm on 6pm at night, then leave on vacation [01:34] eval 'dircolors ./dir_colors' does not work, but eval `dircolors ./dir_colors` does .. what a pain. [01:34] heh [01:34] you DO NOT DO THAT EVER. i won't leave even for a day if i know my configuration is not tested for at least 3. [01:34] to be honest my config is pretty annoyhing and messed up [01:35] i've got to take some time to fix it. [01:36] i need to read some stuff on motivation [01:36] plus im trying to learn Juniper's config. The system itself is crazy powerful and rather elegant. The people who wrote the CLI and config file built a nice system. The GUI on the other hand is missing important features, is slow, and gui people did not talk to the system people. Elegance is not existant. [01:36] (^Î^)b [01:36] i lack motivation, if i had it.. i'd be so much more ahead [01:36] juniper? like routing equipment ? [01:36] why would you use gui's? :D [01:36] jeev: ahhaha. yea. todo: get motivated. When i stop working 58 hour weeks, coming in on sundays every week... [01:36] jeev: you know what im talking about then? [01:37] rhys, i work for myself.. ido well but i have so many opportunities in front of me, multi million dollar idea's and businesses that are in existence, i could take a cut.. and i still can't get motivated [01:37] yea man you've gotta stick to CLI on juniper and cisco heh [01:37] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:38] well i got lxde going and changeing the wm was a s simple as editing a line in /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/config [01:38] jeev: yes you do. i need to setup static src nat tomorrow, and im still trying to figure out the commands. i see them, i read the examples, but i can't predict the behavior of the commands. nicely 24/7 support, i just give them a call and they help me out as I learn [01:39] ahh yeai used to use someone else's cisco service contract for support [01:39] lol [01:39] is it like an m160 or something else ? :D [01:39] doubt you'd do that on a high end router [01:39] j6350 [01:40] i'm out of date on that stuff, i used to do minor datacenter shit [01:40] Top end J series. [01:40] ah, i'm out of date on that [01:40] it's been 10 years when i was a teen that i upgraded a ds3 to oc3 hehe [01:40] that's the last thing i did [01:41] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:41] i was so happy when i saw the salary, for my first job, right after i dropped out of college... i asked them very specificly, "you have documentation?" Oh yea, no problem. I didn't realize I would be given 4 different jobs that should have gone to someone 10 years my senior with twice the cash. [01:42] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [01:43] ahh [01:43] yea the industry is like that [01:44] They hired me because I'm good with linux and the boss liked that I was into hacker "culture" ... i am so fucking out of my league, i'm just winging it all. and i've told them this. and i've told them everything is just on the verge of blowing up, like. Nuclear. Fusion bomb style. and my boss knows it. and hes told the board. i've told the board. we told them our 7 person IT staff doing all support/new development/inhouse apps/extra p [01:44] and thats why i drink. [01:45] find another job [01:45] or ask for more money [01:45] and more time [01:47] << college dropout in a recession. I'm lucky to have a job. There are two things to this. I plan on making the whole thing controllable/monitorable from my desk. I have a 2 year plan. Either I suceed or everything blows up and they fire me. either way i have no choice. If I succeed I will have obtained the "wizard" level like our system architech (for our actual business) and I'm getting a raise or leaving for more money. [01:48] yea i guess [01:48] that's the way to go [01:48] HaTeeee (n=root@201-42-8-65.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:48] i think college is stupid, it's for idiots. i only went to please my parents [01:48] 99% of college grads i've met are just stupid, no common sense, nothing. [01:48] jeev: i dropped out [01:48] once someone with a masters degree in computer science got fired cause i stopped doing his job [01:49] and i wasn't doing much [01:49] there are two sides. my side and our actual "production" side. i do mail, web, users, -everything else.- one guy basically designed and wrote the production side, entirely in perl, and works from home. The guy is a "wizard." Truely amazing what he does. I want that level. [01:49] yea, wish i could code anything. [01:49] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-54.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:50] heh. I'm keeping hte old system running with glue and ductape, hastily made patch cables, some bash and python doing dirty dirty diryt hacks as i replace every system. [01:50] nasty [01:51] before i got the juniper setup, our datacenter routing was done by a linksys wrt54g running an out of date buggy openWRT firmware with a hacked GUI, that i had a bahs script checking every 60 seconds for routes and readding them if they failed, because they dissapeared. [01:51] ivan_ (n=ivan@166.99.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:51] oh shut up lol [01:51] that's nasty [01:53] heh. the second script i added rebooted it every time it couldn't access the internet, because it would randomly stop working entirely. come to find out thats because we have a direct 10MB ethernet drop into our ISP's datacenter upstairs (complete hack in the first place) that specifically told us NOT to use the first two IP's of our /27 allocation, that we were, which means 2 machines with the same IP... [01:53] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:53] didnt find that out till last week when the juniper did the same thing. i thought it was the wrts problem [01:53] i've got a [01:53] i have dual wan, i set up a script, cron every minute.. checks route and failover [01:53] it's funny, every day i wake up, charter failed and it jumped over to dsl. [01:54] it's sort of weak, pings 4.2.2.2 and a couple other ip's, some mine [01:54] if all are down, change route [01:54] grab's the route from dhclient's lease file.. works very very well [01:54] i have to get the mailserver up this week before the single hdd non backedup old server runs out of space. Then comes a NAGIOS box so i can actually start monitoring everything [01:55] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [01:55] nagios is annoying, i have to read more into it.. been running it years but when there's a network quirk, i get screwed [01:55] my favorite thing is the freeswitch thingy i made to call me if my most important customer is down [01:55] it calls my phone, blackberry exempts the phone number and it rings even if on silent or vibrate [01:57] yea, don't have any of that. I'm building it [01:57] whenever i get the time [01:57] you gonna use postfix ? [01:57] i need to launch a new mailserver too [01:57] postfix yea. they use dovecot right now, im gonna move to cyrus [01:57] morning :) [01:57] go back to sleep comrad [01:57] oh man rhys [01:58] dovecot is the best [01:58] why? [01:58] i moved from cyrus or whatever the other was [01:58] and, so, how's the discussion about monitoring apps? [01:58] going [01:58] it's just the best, perfect match up with it's own sasl [01:58] not a single headache [01:58] jeev: clustering? [01:58] comrad, sleep! [01:58] jeev: slept about 9 hours ;-) [01:58] never tried it [01:58] com, 9 more [01:58] last i saw dovecot clustering was still in developement [01:58] like, pre alpha [01:58] jeev: hahaha ;p [01:59] no idea [01:59] jeev: yea. I need to eventually do clustering. [01:59] so disappointed with call of duty mw 2 [01:59] cyrus has had it since 2006 at least, and fastmail.fm has wrote alot of patches to make sure it never goes down [02:00] no idear [02:00] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host188-64-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [02:00] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [02:00] Camarade_Tux: \o/! [02:01] deco, chopchop [02:01] bed time [02:01] jeev: nah [02:01] Action: jeev raises hand [02:01] Action: deco cries [02:01] look carefully [02:01] :) [02:01] Action: jeev is holding a belt [02:01] Action: deco spites at jeev [02:01] Action: deco hides [02:01] lol [02:01] wow. gotta love OU. being drunk for 48 hours really gets your tolerance back. htose 5 shots of jameson never did hit me [02:01] :P [02:01] spites? you mean spits [02:01] sleeep. [02:01] nah [02:01] jeev: grrr yeah it's late here ok! [02:02] rhys: you never noticed they hit you ;) [02:02] i feel bad for this rodgers guy [02:02] fedor is gonna kill him [02:02] oh fedor is bleeding already jeebus [02:03] Camarade_Tux: you lie! Though I so need to give this 5'5" adorable declicious thing a call tomorrow. [02:03] that was when I was sober. its amazing how many people think you're smart just because you use big words. [02:04] saddens me really. [02:04] OH WOW [02:04] WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW [02:04] ? [02:04] big words ^ [02:04] watch the damn fight [02:04] on cbs [02:04] oh [02:04] fedor got his nose broken in one jab [02:04] but the smack he just gacve this guy [02:05] was that the fight they were having at the bar? big white guy with a huge forhead? [02:05] oh shit yea dont tell me what happened [02:05] I'll be BACK [02:05] awww [02:06] :D [02:06] jeev: its all fake! [02:06] BP{k}: well, slackpkg install-new didn't get everything - time to do some fixing :) [02:07] ag3ntugly (n=x@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) joined ##slackware. [02:07] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [02:07] i'm minizing [02:07] till i see when it finishes [02:07] this isn't wrestling, it's real lol [02:07] troy what did it miss? [02:07] Camarade_Tux: koffice [02:08] y0 Camarade_Tux [02:08] Camarade_Tux: at least, that I've found so far... I'll go through manually and take a look [02:09] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [02:09] OH MY GOD [02:09] HE knocked the SHIT Out of him [02:10] petslack (n=petslack@201-42-216-85.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [02:10] oh my shit [02:10] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:10] although i like that rodgers guy [02:10] troy: pretty weird it skipped anything? you ran 'slackpkg update' first? which version of slackware did you have and which are you upgrading to? [02:10] troy: Did you already have koffice installed? [02:11] yoyo fire|bird :) [02:11] watching this makes me wanna fight [02:12] illl fight ye [02:12] FjoelAv (i=FjoelAv@host-90-233-129-162.mobileonline.telia.com) left irc: "Leaving..." [02:12] "Oh shit ya, don't tell me what happened.......I'm minizing" although we thought he was MINIMIZING, he didn't and came back to destroy all of our hopes and dreams about him leaving. [02:12] what a shame. [02:13] y0 agentc0re [02:13] sup fire|bird? [02:13] agentc0re: just eating. you? [02:13] just back from the bar with friends for a b-day. [02:14] today was the last day of skydiving too.. :( [02:14] aww, that sucks. [02:14] yup.. work is going to be a more hateful place. [02:14] mmmmm pb&j is the non-sober equivilant to sex. [02:14] lol [02:14] agentc0re: When did you last skydive? Did you go today? [02:14] rhys: pb&v is the equivalent. [02:15] fire|bird: I had some old packages - which it asked me to remove with clean-system beforehand, and I did [02:15] rhys: Well, I just seen on tv, I forget where though, on the east coast USA somewhere, they make a pb&j pizza. [02:15] pb and v? man... don't put peanut butter there. just not... just. yea. no. shell never get that washed out. [02:15] fire|bird: most everything else seems to be working [02:15] fire|bird: today. did a sweet move where three of us did belle earth to the ground and then 3 others 'docked' on us and 'stood up'. it increased our fall rate which was totally awesome and something i can't just describe. [02:15] troy: Ok, I ask because if koffice was already installed, slackpkg install-new won't do anything with it, because it's not new. [02:16] it was great! [02:16] lol this guy is funny [02:16] agentc0re: awesome [02:16] fire|bird: Chicago. I enjoy rather good pizza. And by rather good i mean I left two girls and a truck for it. [02:16] rhys: wow [02:16] now that's a love of pizza. :P [02:16] the girls were sad, the truck shows how much i love it. [02:16] haha [02:17] cause, you can love many girls, but you can only love one truck. [02:17] i am going to guess these girls more looked like men due to their size. [02:17] i miss my truck. :( [02:17] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-22-196.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:18] fire|bird: how are you man? [02:18] agentc0re: nah. keep em small. they ship better that way. [02:18] troy: glad to hear things are working. :) I've used slackware's kde 4.2.4, then upgraded that to 4.3.0, then 4.3.1, and then 4.3.2. Now, I'm running slackware -current on my laptop, so I'm using 4.3.3 there. [02:19] agentc0re: I am great, thanks. SeaMonkey build has been a thorn in my side lately. I will not stop until I figure it out. :P [02:19] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-22-196.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [02:19] for what? raindrop? [02:19] fire|bird: well, I didn't want to touch KDE for a while because I had to use this laptop to demonstrate KDE two weeks ago at a conference... now I was ready to move back to current and have a few gotcha's due to me mixing official and unofficial packages [02:20] ps: anyone have a suggestion for a 10-13" inch laptop? [02:20] agentc0re: no, SeaMonkey 2.0 is out. Slack is using 1.1.18, I have tried building it to upgrade, and it just won't build. :P [02:20] Needs to support linux. not much else on requirements. perferably cheap. [02:20] troy: Ah, ok. Did the conference go well? [02:20] rhys: I like my hp tx25xx series, notwithstanding wireless requiring ndiswrapper [02:21] rhys: touchscreen and everything works in slack, after linux wacom driver installed [02:21] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [02:21] troy: digitizer? capacitance? resistive/ [02:21] ? [02:21] hp zv6000 here, love it, but not a lightweight laptop. 15.4. [02:21] fire|bird: yep :) I even made sure to mention that it was running slack during my presentation - sort of a gentle dig at other distros for the modifications they do to my KDE :) [02:22] rhys: all of the above :) [02:22] fire|bird: yea. needs to be small. [02:22] troy: \o/, nice. :) [02:22] troy: reeealy. problem is ) I don't like HP, in quality, design or support. also, price? can you virtualize rather well with it? [02:23] rhys: I was, for a long time, running slack64 in a virtual machine under vista 32 - was quite nice [02:23] rhys: that was mostly because the wireless driver gave me problems - but solved that these days [02:23] rhys: it's a rather higher end hp laptop though - so I haven't had any quality problems with it [02:24] troy: I've used various other distros, and slack is the best experience I've had with kde. (other de/wm's too) [02:24] fire|bird: what doesn't build with seamonkey? [02:24] btw, xul sucks [02:24] rhys: I paid about $1100 CAD for it (conversion rate would put it at $1000 USD at the time, and that was 15 months ago) [02:24] Camarade_Tux: crashes out with ldappr.h, it can't find it, yet it's right there where it should be. :/ [02:24] and it's a pain to compile, and seamonkey2 uses it for the ui I think [02:24] fire|bird: I just like the philosophy that patches are for security/stability, and not to slap logos and branding all over the place :P [02:24] what gets me is I can get a tricked out HP 311 atom (ION) that will do 1080p, 3GB of ram, and 500gb hdd, 11.x inch for 620$ shipped. A decent high powered 13" laptop with virtualization is 9-1200$. I could almost buy 2 for that price. [02:24] fire|bird: changed CPPFLAGS? [02:25] troy: agreed. [02:25] Camarade_Tux: no, tried a CFLAG command, rworkman's suggestion, which unfortunately didn't work. [02:25] rhys u can buy around 6 Eee on ebay for that [02:26] vaibhav (n=landy@59.96.58.182) joined ##slackware. [02:26] CcSsNET: not with specs like that. [02:26] rhys: you have a desktop computer too? which does virt? [02:26] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [02:26] Camarade_Tux: i have 20 3.4Ghz 1u servers that aren't doing a damn thing. [02:26] fire|bird: well, CFLAGs="-Isomething" or CPPFLAGS="-Isomething" are the same here [02:26] rhys: haha ;p [02:26] rhys: well, this one has a lot of bells and whistles for that price range, but I'm quite happy with it -- the only thing I haven't gotten working on slack is the fingerprint reader, and that's because it wants to use pam :P [02:27] i have 2 home servers with ~3200+ AMDs in them.. [02:27] o true [02:27] just got here [02:27] anyway, back to work for me... thanks guys for the help [02:27] troy (n=quassel@173.13.86.245) left ##slackware ("http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere."). [02:28] rhys: maybe go for the atom then and use the servers remotely when you need more [02:28] Camarade_Tux: oh. :P [02:29] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: Client Quit [02:29] are atom's more powerful than a 1.8ghz P-M? [02:29] they sure seem snappier [02:30] darylc (n=darylc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:30] not sure [02:30] P-M is pretty old but atoms are pretty slow [02:31] at least all those I've tried (they probably weren't very high-end) [02:31] I think atoms really fit the server-terminal model where servers do almost everything and end-computers do basically nothing [02:32] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host188-64-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Excess Flood [02:32] my p3 is only 600mhz i dont mind it, a atom would be major upgrade hehe [02:33] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host188-64-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [02:34] nooper (n=nooper@unaffiliated/nooper) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:35] hm [02:35] i need to stress test one [02:35] well, probably ;-) [02:35] but since a DEER ATE MY PHRAKING TRUCK [02:35] I can't drive to frys [02:35] i hate deer [02:35] i hate indiana [02:35] i hate the whole state [02:36] darylc (n=darylc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) left irc: "Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi" [02:36] but netbooks are really bad for intel, they mean "we don't care about the cpu, all we need is a good gpu" ^^ [02:36] rhys: move to california [02:36] "crossroads of america" my ass. "deer cross your road america" is more like it [02:36] fire|bird: when are you going to bed? [02:36] i'm in illinois [02:36] driving back from ohio [02:37] Camarade_Tux: I'm be online a little while longer, it's only 01:36 here. [02:37] fire|bird: I'm going to see if I can compile seamonkey, you used the slackbuild as a basis? [02:38] ok [02:38] haha, using scissors to boot the machine ^^ [02:38] sleep time [02:38] nooper (n=nooper@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:38] nn yall. Camarade_Tux, you have good points. i shall check them out [02:38] comrad doesnt have any good points [02:38] get a file. he should have points [02:39] nope [02:39] jeev: ^^ [02:39] rhys: well, I have a laptop that doesn't do VT and which is quite slow, so I just bought a much more powerful desktop computer ;-) [02:40] im a sysadmin on the go between multiple offices [02:40] thanks for the tarbomb mozilla! [02:40] "Source Code Tarball (bzip, 57 MB) - note that it doesn't unpack a subdirectory itself, so create a directory to unpack it in. " [02:41] :o [02:41] bah, slow download [02:41] Camarade_Tux: are you gonna fix ff or what ? [02:41] :P [02:41] just compile seamonkey since fire|bird can't :D [02:42] oh lol yeah poor fire|bird has been at it for weeks now :P [02:44] rhys (n=srees@c-67-176-236-166.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [02:44] ^^ [02:45] exit [02:45] ag3ntugly (n=x@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) left irc: "leaving" [02:45] ok, I need to do sme cleaning [02:45] *some [02:45] and I'm going to build a case I think... with lego/k'nex [02:48] you have lego's in russia ? [02:48] damn [02:49] i thought lego's freeze up and become choke hazards in siberia [02:49] only red ones though [02:49] actually they're in Paris [02:49] mancha: lol ;p [02:49] ion_ (i=ion@diomedes.phear.cc) joined ##slackware. [02:50] Camarade_Tux: yeah, just slackware's seamonkey slackbuild. [02:50] and seamonkey 2.0 source [02:50] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host188-64-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [02:52] deco: Seamonkey 2.0 was released 10.27.09, I've been trying to build it since then, and it's 11.7.09 (well, after midnight so 11.8.09) [02:52] is the build for 1.x source or summit? [02:52] mancha: 2.0 source [02:52] is the slackware official build for 1.x source [02:53] fire|bird: well too long :P [02:54] mancha: yeah. [02:54] deco: indeed. [02:55] Whoa, it just hit slack 13. ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/patches/packages/seamonkey-2.0-i486-1_slack13.0.txz [02:55] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.71.223) joined ##slackware. [02:55] Camarade_Tux: nvm, slack has it now. \o/ to the slack team. :D [02:55] fire|bird: LOL! pat heard ya [02:56] fire|bird: musta been my comments ;P [02:56] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.111.211) joined ##slackware. [02:56] deco: pretty much just got it: 11389 KB 11/08/2009 12:59:00 AM [02:56] you pressed rworkman enough :) [02:56] \o/!! woooahaha [02:56] \o\ [02:56] /o/ [02:56] \o\ [02:56] /o/ [02:57] mancha: lol, there was a security issue with slack's seamonkey version too, so 2.0 was sort of needed. [02:57] fire|bird: hahahah ! [02:57] Action: deco upgrades [02:57] Action: fire|bird upgrades [02:57] woot, I've been able to cancel the download before it finished :) [02:57] Action: Camarade_Tux stays away [02:57] fire yes, i read that sec advisory glad pat issued an update [02:57] Action: deco brings Camarade_Tux back [02:58] mancha: yeah, same here. [02:58] Action: deco launches seamonky 2 [02:58] if you tell me it's worth, I'll maybe try [02:59] wtf, errrr not in my mirror yet [02:59] too fresh [02:59] woot, I have a shoe box :) [02:59] deco: :) [02:59] deco: yeah, seems like only ftp.slackware.com has it yet, hasn't been pushed to the mirrors maybe. [02:59] Camarade_Tux: a shoe box, well, what about shoes? :P [02:59] fire|bird: takes some time, some take hours some less ... [03:00] Camarade_Tux: :) [03:00] uva (i=bno@118-160-171-183.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:00] deco: yeah, usually the ones I use are quick to get stuff. I use osuosl, and more so lately, tds. [03:00] fire|bird: my parents brought this box >< [03:00] tds is the closest mirror to me. [03:00] fire|bird: usc is the closest LA [03:00] unless the U of M mirrors slack and I don't know it. [03:01] uva (i=bno@114-45-226-1.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [03:01] deco: osuosl has it now. [03:01] fire|bird: good good, gonna get it from them [03:02] thanks [03:02] yw [03:02] Now, I'm really dang curious as to what the heck I was doing wrong that it wouldn't build for me. [03:02] Action: fire|bird fails [03:05] lol, current has seamonkey 2 as well now, and I had just updated the laptop (-current) barely an hour ago. :P [03:05] It got so silent, everybody upgrading seamonkey? :P [03:05] fire|bird: so it had it all along ? [03:05] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:05] lol [03:06] deco: no, not all along, just got updated a little bit ago, but if I'd have waited an hour to upgrade the laptop, I wouldn't have to upgrade it again right now. :P [03:06] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [03:06] oh lol [03:08] fire|bird: done \o/ gonna run it now [03:08] \o/ [03:08] deco: I think we scared everyone else off. :P [03:09] lol [03:09] good work, lol.. security is scary stuff.. :P [03:09] fire|bird: it looks much better now [03:09] lol [03:09] deco: yeah, very nice improvement. [03:10] fire|bird: cleaning [03:10] Camarade_Tux: girl coming over? :P [03:10] put the motherboard on the (opened) psu box [03:10] fire|bird: no me -_- [03:10] the disk belowand the psu next [03:10] fire|bird: see deco's answer -_- [03:10] fire|bird: just needed more space actually [03:10] I have hardware all over the floor [03:11] Camarade_Tux: bah, forget about that, seamonkey 2 has arrived. \o/ [03:11] praise the lord for that \o/!!! [03:11] deco: no doubt, I can finally stop messing with it. :P [03:12] fire|bird: yes , now you can start something new :p [03:12] deco: yeah [03:12] and maybe something that won't drive me to insanity like this did. :P [03:12] yeah lol [03:12] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.111.211) left irc: "leaving" [03:13] deco: I could've wrote an entire novel just on that experience alone. :/ [03:13] s/experience/failure/ [03:13] :) [03:13] :( [03:14] oy, my laptop's wifi is borked now. <----deco, here's something new. 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[05:26] si (n=si@60-242-50-107.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [05:27] Nick change: si -> Guest17998 [05:27] slackvd6 (n=slack@host102-46-dynamic.55-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:28] Brianaa_ (i=Esra@41.236.13.45) joined ##slackware. [05:28] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-185-084.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [05:31] Axius (n=fd@92.82.72.213) left irc: "leaving" [05:32] slackvd6 (n=slack@host102-46-dynamic.55-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Leaving" [05:33] slackvd6 (n=slack@host102-46-dynamic.55-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:33] slackvd6 (n=slack@host102-46-dynamic.55-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Client Quit [05:36] Axius (n=fd@92.82.72.213) joined ##slackware. [05:37] How to uncopress a tar.bz2 file? [05:37] Hermann (n=Hermannn@81.170.156.174) joined ##slackware. [05:37] How to uncompress a tar.bz2 file? [05:38] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [05:38] StevenR (n=foo@user-514d3f27.l1.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:39] Axius: tar jxf *tar.bz2 [05:39] esom (n=loch@220.163.84.243) joined ##slackware. [05:39] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [05:39] hello [05:40] hi esom [05:40] The_Seeker: thanks you very much! [05:41] slackware 13 is awesome, it's been a while for me to get use to KDE4 :) [05:41] Axius: no problem [05:42] Axius: if you want to see what's happening as it's extracting, add 'v' for verbose, i.e. tar jxvf *tar.bz2 [05:42] do you guys compile and use the lastest kernel? [05:43] sometimes [05:43] bah, I need the closed-source vbox ='( [05:44] maybe it's a good habit? compling kernel takes much time for me [05:44] fidesratio (n=fidesrat@bender.elementalit.net) joined ##slackware. [05:45] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [05:45] Axius: by the way, the 'j' is used as it's a tar.bz2 file - if it's a tar.gz file, xf or xvf will be fine [05:46] Camarade_Tux: vbox is fast, but crashes often, I prefer vmware :) [05:46] GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MOOORNIN VIET SLACK! [05:46] ) [05:47] good morning) [05:47] It's midnight here [05:47] morning Zordrak [05:47] esom: I prefer vbox, it doesn't crash forme ;) [05:47] morning Zor :) [05:55] esom (n=loch@220.163.84.243) left ##slackware ("dinner"). [06:02] Brianaa_ (i=Esra@41.236.13.45) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:02] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-185-084.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:03] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-185-084.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [06:04] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-170-22-196.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:06] What do I need to add to this file http://dpaste.com/117732/ for radio support? [06:07] tatinko (n=tatinko@adsl-dyn-213.95-102-50.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [06:07] tatinko (n=tatinko@adsl-dyn-213.95-102-50.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [06:07] i want compile mplayer with radio suport. [06:11] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:13] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [06:14] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:14] Axius: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mplayer+radio+support [06:15] the second result tells you what you need to do in the google summary let alone on the page itself [06:16] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:17] josemanuel (n=josemanu@238.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [06:17] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [06:17] Zordrak: I dont have a gui browser to that. [06:17] tux_boy (n=gaurav@122.172.30.86) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:17] so use a console browser [06:18] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [06:18] tux_boy (n=gaurav@122.172.19.181) joined ##slackware. [06:20] Zordrak: where do I do put --enable-radio and --enable-radio-capture/ [06:21] Have you actually *read* the slackbuild? At all? [06:21] yes, I have [06:22] and what does it say about configure options? [06:22] in a huge frigging text block [06:22] this is the file http://dpaste.com/117732/ [06:22] i know [06:22] i've read [06:22] Im not sure YOU have [06:24] from this line below ./configure $CONFIGURE [06:25] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.162.156) joined ##slackware. [06:25] hi there! [06:25] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [06:26] I have to put --enable-radio and --enable-radio-capture? [06:26] Axius: Are you six? [06:26] yes [06:26] Maybe you should wait until you are at least seven. [06:27] Zordrak: yes or no. [06:27] No. [06:27] READ THE BLOCK OF TEXT [06:28] I love the ignorant [06:28] Zordrak: from wich line below? [06:30] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.71.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:30] just above the configure linbe [06:30] *line [06:32] rahit (n=ghost@78.90.113.108) joined ##slackware. [06:32] how can i use my s/pdif i don't have a sound from spdif, i'm using alsa latest, i have sound blaster x-fi ? [06:34] Zordrak: you can help me? [06:35] Wiren (n=aad@80.13.211.240) joined ##slackware. [06:37] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-169-135.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [06:37] Zordrak: you can help me if you want! [06:37] rahit (n=ghost@78.90.113.108) left ##slackware. [06:38] please do something [06:38] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [06:39] i think i heard a trout [06:40] tuxdev__ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. 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[06:56] hi :) [07:00] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:00] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.253.46.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [07:01] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [07:01] Fenix-Dark: crt or lcd screen? [07:01] Camarade_Tux, lcd (its a 32" panasonic tv) same thing happened in windows, an option in the ati catalyst control center fixed it [07:01] well, which option? [07:01] Camarade_Tux, dont remember off the top of my head [07:02] but does ati's linux drivers have an nvidia-settings equivalent? [07:02] does the resolution looks right? or do pixels look blurry? what is the effective resolution? what's your lcd native resolution? [07:02] I think there's one but I don't use it [07:03] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:03] kde says its running 1920x1080, text is a bit blurry (ever so slightly) my native resolution is 1920x1080 [07:09] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [07:09] smokeybandit (n=cntrfeit@207-237-64-142.c3-0.80w-ubr6.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) joined ##slackware. [07:11] chendy_ (n=chatzill@116.30.194.230) joined ##slackware. [07:12] tuxdev__ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Connection timed out [07:14] well, the blur is probably caused by anti-aliasing or the like [07:14] Camarade_Tux, yup [07:14] and can you move the cursor outside of the screen? [07:14] no [07:15] i have a 1.5" black boarder that is unusable space atm [07:15] but its fine when X is off [07:15] and it was fine before i installed the ati drivers [07:16] s0d0 (n=bggr@host86-175-233-238.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [07:16] on the opposite side of the black border, can you move the cursor outside of the physical screen? [07:16] and where is the border? [07:16] (I mean, which side) [07:17] the boarder is on all 4 sides [07:19] when i change the resolution the black boarder remains the same [07:19] infoman1 (n=info_man@196.202.27.173) joined ##slackware. [07:20] well, your best bet is to try in windows and see the option [07:21] Axius (n=fd@92.82.72.213) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:21] i suppose so [07:21] infoman (n=info_man@196.202.27.173) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:21] smokeybandit (n=cntrfeit@207-237-64-142.c3-0.80w-ubr6.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) left irc: "leaving" [07:21] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [07:21] and http://zerias.blogspot.com/2008/04/amd-ccc-linux-edition-comparisons.html [07:21] trouble is that i haven't found any ati configuration utility to make any changes even if i cound it [07:21] smokeybandit (n=cntrfeit@207.237.64.142) joined ##slackware. [07:22] amdcccle ? [07:22] aWNED (n=everest@adsl-177-110-202.gsp.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [07:23] ah ha! [07:23] thanks [07:23] aWNED (n=everest@adsl-177-110-202.gsp.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [07:24] chendy__ (n=chatzill@116.30.194.230) joined ##slackware. [07:24] ok its fixed [07:24] i had to move the overscan to 0% [07:25] good, overscan sounds like it is probably related to display frequency [07:25] same thing with this ati card in windows [07:25] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:28] tux_boy (n=gaurav@122.172.19.181) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:29] chendy (n=chatzill@116.30.194.230) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:29] Nick change: chendy__ -> chendy [07:29] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left ##slackware. [07:32] hi there [07:32] i want to update slackware, know of any working slackware64-current rsync mirrors? [07:32] do we have in main repository of Slackware package with SVN ? [07:33] yes mac- [07:33] mac-: in d/ [07:34] thx [07:34] Fenix-Dark: depends on where you are on the globe [07:34] any one know how long packages.slackware.it will be down ? [07:34] no [07:34] Camarade_Tux, usa [07:35] the get slackware page used to list rsync mirrors, now it doesn't :( [07:35] Fenix-Dark: go look at the rsync mirror list at http://alphageek.dyndns.org [07:35] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s_40rM_L0s [07:35] hilarious [07:36] alienBOB, thanks a lot [07:36] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [07:37] sp4z (n=sp4z@unaffiliated/sp4z) joined ##slackware. [07:38] alienBOB: Would really appreciate a short burst of opinion (#slackbuilds) [07:39] spectre1 (n=kyle@41.210.144.17) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:40] josemanuel (n=josemanu@238.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [07:43] tux_boy (n=gaurav@122.166.160.85) joined ##slackware. [07:45] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [07:45] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [07:45] is 13 the first slackware release that comes with MPlayer? [07:45] chendy_ (n=chatzill@116.30.194.230) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:47] smokeybandit (n=cntrfeit@207.237.64.142) left irc: "leaving" [07:47] morning guys; anyone got the radon driver to suspend correctly? [07:47] sp4z (n=sp4z@unaffiliated/sp4z) left irc: "Leaving" [07:49] v4nelle (n=van@adsl21-114.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:49] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [07:51] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[08:31] ^^ [08:31] all your filesystems are belong to us [08:32] tux_boy (n=gaurav@122.166.160.85) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [08:32] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-18-65.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [08:33] Action: Camarade_Tux scared [08:34] Camarade_Tux, you should do something about that! [08:36] well, I'll force it, there's nothing on the drive [08:37] well, 'lilo -b /dev/sda' make it run without warnings :) [08:37] *made [08:37] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:37] yeah, took ======= action! [08:38] ^^ [08:38] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-57-79.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:38] ^^ [08:39] plus, what really annoyed me was the "(null)" which meant a problem in lilo [08:42] Fenix-Dark (n=scott@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:43] Hey, Camarade_Tux are still scared! [08:45] nah :) [08:48] blkdg (n=blkdg@99.235.170.145) joined ##slackware. [08:49] hi, i am using slackware64 13.0 + alienBob's multilib. i installed the slackbuild for kismet. when it scans i loose connection to my own router. is it my card, kismet or slack causing this ? [08:50] blkdg: http://www.loseloose.com [08:50] twanny796 (n=chatzill@85.232.220.138) joined ##slackware. [08:50] lose [08:51] lose-er [08:51] sorry about that Zordrak [08:51] well, the connection is loose? :D [08:51] nice let the puns begin [08:52] but probably kismet or kismet with your card, I can't remember exactly how kismet operates though [08:52] ;-) [08:53] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@62-47-148-244.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [08:53] twanny796 (n=chatzill@85.232.220.138) left ##slackware. [08:54] ok, i'll wait for an answer in #kismet then. in the meantime, i;ve been using wicd since 12.1 (is that even possible?) anyhow, i've nticed that kismet will pull more ssid's out of the air than wicd will. are there alternatives to scanning for wifi spots than wicd? [08:54] wicd sees what 'iwlist s' sees afaik [08:54] ok, will run as root to look\ [08:54] but once wicd/iwlist wouldn't see networks on some channels, maybe that [08:55] no need to run wicd-client as root as long the daemon is ran as root [08:55] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.74.125) left irc: Connection timed out [08:55] and maybe kismet will display even really week links [08:57] thanks Camarade_Tux iwlist wlan0 scanning looks great. [08:57] it must [08:57] it must display the weak links [08:59] the answer from #kismet is that it will use one interface at a time. so that's why i'm losing my connection . [08:59] aWNED (n=root@adsl-177-110-202.gsp.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. 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[09:12] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.162.156) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [09:12] rworkman: you so should come up here and visit upstate ny and go to the asian supermarket w/ me :P [09:12] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:13] my bottle of beer tried to commit suicide! ='( [09:15] bottle of beer ? [09:15] what time is it there [09:15] thats interesting Comarade_Tux [09:16] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [09:20] awned (n=awned@adsl-177-110-202.gsp.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [09:21] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@220-136-228-132.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [09:22] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:15) joined ##slackware. [09:23] 3pm :) [09:24] ahh [09:24] thought you were an alcoholic [09:24] only 9:20 here am [09:25] hahaha ^^ [09:27] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) joined ##slackware. [09:27] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-21-87.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:27] http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/car/9b3b/ [09:27] ha [09:28] thats kinda sad they need to be reminded :X [09:28] lol [09:28] thats wonderful [09:28] I'm looking for a birthday gift for myself :\ [09:28] how wierd is that?? [09:28] :( more sad than weird mate [09:29] my favorite is the t-shirt that says " Im only here becasue my server is down" [09:29] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-20-206.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:29] Nick change: p0w7r1x -> powtrix [09:29] Scuzz: UP UP DOWN DOWN LEFT RIGHT A B start shirt i have is better ^_^ [09:30] meh, Scuzz that refers' too much to world of warcraft :X [09:30] yeah its still brings a smile on my face [09:30] lol, beanbag cell phone chair????? [09:30] wrtf [09:30] wtf [09:30] the best ones are the sushi pillows [09:31] sushi pillows? [09:31] omg [09:31] i wants! [09:31] yeah. they are a bit small though. was dissapointed when they came, but still, very very cool [09:32] http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/plush/c4a6/ [09:32] hahah , those are kinda funny [09:32] i meant those, not the actual pillows [09:32] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-228-30.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:32] never heard of them before [09:33] http://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/giftsunder10/79ea/ [09:33] ^^^^ instant snow? [09:33] that shits cool [09:33] friend of mine bought a ton and covered his front yard in it [09:33] LOL [09:33] i think its actually the insides of a diaper, or at least its the same stuff [09:34] this ... isn't practical though [09:34] common [09:34] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [09:34] idk if it was meant to be practical [09:35] i should get the 8bit tie [09:35] just to say i'm 8bit [09:35] lol [09:35] wow [09:35] i hadnt seen that [09:35] thast pimp [09:35] geek: where do I start to compile scsi-ide for kernel 2.4.36? [09:35] http://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/giftsforhim/9352/ [09:36] meh, clipon.... well. its justified but still, waytta look like your 5 and cant tie a fie.. [09:37] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824085743]" [09:37] anyone here go to self this year? [09:38] meh, self was too far away fur me :\ [09:38] i believe rworkman went [09:38] its in spartenburg in 2010 [09:38] i cant walk this time :( [09:40] ? [09:40] has anyone here installed mono succesfully on s64? [09:41] i refuse to use 64 bit [09:41] tecky: :O eghad! why? [09:41] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) left irc: "Leaving" [09:41] tuxdev__ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [09:41] its 32 bit's too many [09:43] twanny796__ (n=chatzill@85.232.220.138) joined ##slackware. [09:43] tecky: how so? where is the disadvantage to having more memory addresses ? [09:43] what's self [09:43] blkdg: south east linux fest [09:44] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.128.101) joined ##slackware. [09:45] awned: i guess my humor isn't dry enough for you... perhaps I should go w/ the British accent?? [09:46] tecky: dry humor tends to transfer poorly in irc :P [09:46] thanks again folks [09:46] blkdg (n=blkdg@99.235.170.145) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:47] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [09:48] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.52.10) joined ##slackware. [09:48] anyone know what is the kernel config for sata on an AMD785 chipset? [09:48] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [09:48] jiraia_ (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:137) joined ##slackware. [09:49] awned: alas you are right, I shall fight you in a battle of wits! [09:49] awned: READY, GO! [09:49] tecky: mind bullets **********>>>>> [09:50] anyone remember where the huludesktop slackbuild is located? [09:50] yes, I made it :) moment [09:51] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-56-81.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [09:51] 71 seconds to compile my kernel, bah, far too long [09:52] aigon (n=jfo@92.82.72.213) joined ##slackware. [09:52] alisonken1home, http://github.com/abrouwers/ajb_slackbuilds/tree/master/huludesktop/ [09:52] thanks [09:52] does anyone care to help me get mono installed on slackware64 ? [09:53] awned: do you know if it runs on 64bit? [09:53] yeah [09:53] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [09:53] Camarade_Tux: it does [09:53] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:53] do you guys have an handy sites that walk you through compiling a new kernal ? [09:53] 74 seconds, crap [09:53] Scuzz: no ^^ [09:53] Scuzz: um.. yeah [09:54] awned, tried this? http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/development/mono/ [09:54] thrice`: I notice is says 0.6 - I had 0.9,6b installed [09:54] Scuzz: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/2009/08/31/compiling-your-own-slackware-kernel/ [09:54] thank you Zordrak [09:54] Scuzz: yes. this is an excellent one http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=linux:kernelbuilding&s%5B%5D=kernel&s%5B%5D=compile [09:54] it's high in the google rankings.. you ought to have found it [09:55] alisonken1home, hmm? VERSION=0.9.3 [09:55] the 0.6 at the top is probably for the last git commit, which was xmms2 in my repo (version 0.6) [09:55] ok - 0.9.3b :) [09:55] i have tried following some tutorials before from google and left me with a system that didnt boot [09:55] keyboard fun [09:55] thats why im leary [09:55] alienBOB's guide works [09:56] Scuzz: start with the one I gave you and follow it *precisely* to rebuild your current kernel version.. that will ensure you get a feel for the compile process and dont end up with a broken system.. then move on to alienBOB's if you want to compile a more recent version [09:56] sorry - small letters - "xmms2: updated to 0.6" [09:56] duh [09:56] ok :) [09:56] "On a single core, single processor system, reduce this to -j3. On a reasonably average system use -j5 or -j7. On a Xeon E5520 single-processor system (8 cores) use -j11. On a twin-processor, Quad-Core Xeon system use as many as you want." [09:56] ? [09:57] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:15) left irc: Connection timed out [09:58] thrice`: lol, i had 12.2 slackbuild ver instead of 13.0, trying 13 now... gosh i feel stupid [09:58] awned, it just got added to the 13.0 repo, so that's probably why :) [09:59] Camarade_Tux: what about it> [09:59] thrice`: ah okay, thanks [09:59] twanny796 (n=chatzill@85.232.220.138) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:00] Zordrak: I don't get the logic [10:00] the numbers seem made up [10:00] (from the link you gave) [10:00] thrice`: the one thing I noticed with this huludesktop is it sometimes (most times) it gets stuck when switching to the commercial. [10:00] Action: nachox bows to the channel [10:01] Camarade_Tux: I dont get what you dont get [10:01] hi nachox :) [10:01] Zordrak: he doesnt beleive the numbers [10:01] Zordrak: why 11 for a single xeon? [10:01] for some reason.. [10:01] alisonken1home, yeah, it's kind of nice, but kind of shitty at the same time :) I guess you can't expect much from a pure-flash app [10:01] Camarade_Tux: single-core single-processor.. 3 concurrent threads is about right [10:01] that, ok [10:02] in this case - its the network hang trying to get the next segment that seems to do it - especially since the commercials come from a different server [10:02] Camarade_Tux: single xeon quad ht-core has 8 virtual procs.. so about 11 means you saturate the cores and have three more threads to spread around [10:02] it could also be I have a tunnel to the office that adds some latency to lookups [10:02] i tested 13 and 11 and 13 was about half a second slower than 11 [10:02] twanny796__ (n=chatzill@85.232.220.138) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:02] agh I'm on a Q6600 , 2.4 ghz quad core :) [10:02] with twin proc, quad core you're looking at 16 simultaneous threads.. so probably 19-odd threads might be best [10:03] fxer (n=fxer@c80-216-143-115.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:04] ha, I had misunderstood your sentence: I thought it was "on a twin-processor *or* quad-core xeon..." 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[10:15] 1) enable PAE in motherboard BIOS [10:15] 2) enable PAE in kernel [10:15] 3) may require PAE in GRUB entry [10:15] at 2) [10:15] howto [10:15] ? [10:15] cd / [10:15] pae is hack-ish, use 64-bit :> [10:16] cd /usr/src/linux; make menuconfig [10:16] ThomasLocke_ (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [10:16] hack-ish? more like hackhackhack+2 [10:16] u mean compule? [10:16] uva_ (n=bno@114-45-226-1.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [10:16] compile (sorryP :P [10:16] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-104-7.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [10:17] winter, what next? [10:17] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-104-7.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [10:17] enable pae [10:17] dorin: yes, you would need to install the kernel sources package, take the appropriate kernel config you're using now and copy it as .config in the kernel sources directory, make menuconfig, enable pae, make, make modules_install and install the kernel in the bootloader [10:17] thrice`: know of any banshee slackbuild? [10:18] uva_ (n=bno@114-45-226-1.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: SendQ exceeded [10:18] cd [10:18] /usr/src/sys/i386/conf [10:18] sorry, I don't :( never used it outside of a $gnome_distro [10:18] cd ../compile/PAE [10:18] make cleandepend && make depend [10:18] uva_ (i=bno@114-45-226-1.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [10:18] make [10:18] thrice`: kk, thanks anyway [10:19] dorin, How long have been running slack? [10:19] awned: ANYWAY: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/pae-enable-618992/?s=832b76def4943ddf965e126987c8dbef [10:20] aprox. 1 year [10:20] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:20] dorin* [10:20] winter: that thing you are copying from that thread does not apply to slackware [10:20] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-133-25.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:21] there is no /usr/src/sys/i386/conf in slackware [10:21] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [10:21] ok .. isaid nothing [10:21] no /usr/src/sys even [10:22] is there /usr ? [10:22] of course [10:22] uva (n=bno@114-45-226-1.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:22] you're missing a "/linux" [10:22] i should home /usr exists... [10:22] then add "slackware" in google [10:23] if you didn't install the kernel source package (why would you? :) ) /usr/src/linux/ won't exist [10:23] v4nelle (n=van@adsl21-114.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:23] if i understand this correctly make old config uses my current kernal configuration file for the new kernal correct ? [10:24] Scuzz: single word "oldconfig" [10:24] yes i jsut realized that [10:24] Scuzz, only if the .config is located in that directory. [10:24] Scuzz: it may not use your current kernel config, though [10:24] that's right [10:24] to do so first, "zcat /proc/config.gz > /path/to/kernel/source/.config" [10:24] zcat /proc/config.gz > .config [10:25] that was issued in the linux directory [10:25] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.128.101) left irc: "Leaving." [10:25] chendy (n=chatzill@116.30.194.230) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]" [10:27] what is config.gz ? [10:27] saved in kernel (if enabled) of the configuration used to compile the currently running kernel [10:27] an option you can compile into the kernel, so that the config file (gzipped) is stored in /proc for quick access / query [10:28] C00re (i=hard@unaffiliated/c00re) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:28] can you spell waste of kernel memory? :) [10:29] so, i should use this file as a .config in kernel/sources? [10:29] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-170.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [10:29] I don't see how that's wasteful tbh [10:29] C00re (n=coore@unaffiliated/c00re) joined ##slackware. [10:30] whiskas (n=mc@87.72.242.147) joined ##slackware. [10:30] Hi [10:31] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [10:31] awned (n=awned@adsl-177-110-202.gsp.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [10:32] arielg (n=ari@host41.190-139-163.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [10:32] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-56-81.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:32] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:33] souda1 (n=jfo@92.84.30.6) joined ##slackware. [10:33] nachox: can you spell debugging aid? :) [10:33] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:33] dorin: use it as a starting point in /usr/src/linux [10:34] alisonken1home, hehe [10:35] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left ##slackware ("êîãäà ÿ óìåð íåáûëî íèêîãî, êòî áû ýòî îïðîâåðã"). [10:36] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@220-136-228-132.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:36] alisonken1home, after that i di (as root) make menuconfig ? [10:37] "make oldconfig" first , it will ask you some questions on the different config options between the new kernel and the old kernel [10:37] then make menuconfig [10:37] grazymax (n=grazymax@host8-2-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:39] aigon (n=jfo@92.82.72.213) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:39] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [10:40] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-39-38.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:40] whiskas (n=mc@87.72.242.147) left irc: "Leaving" [10:40] alisonken1home, i did oldconfig : no question just a "configuration written to .config [10:42] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:42] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:43] dorin: it will be beneficial to you if you first read a short tutorial on kernel building . All your questions indicate that at the end of your road may lie failure [10:44] alienBOB, i think that it is a good ideea, [10:44] tnx for help [10:45] freenose (n=freenose@204.97.199.7) joined ##slackware. [10:46] dorin: have you find some reading material or need help with that [10:46] 1 sec , i did not search yet [10:48] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [10:49] this? http://www.cromwell-intl.com/unix/linux-kernel.html [10:49] how many netsplits do i have to get before i give up irc and quit out of frustration [10:49] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-133-25.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "leaving" [10:50] either that or my ISP is crapping out [10:52] RipVanWinkle: it's your ISP then, probably. Or your router [10:52] <-- RipVanWinkle has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [10:53] That is not a netsplit [10:53] ah, my ISP keeps breaking [10:54] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:56] i will watch my connection statistics to the router for a while to see if it breaks [10:59] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: "leaving" [10:59] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:00] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [11:00] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@66.160.141.30 [11:04] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:04] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [11:04] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:04] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. 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[11:16] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-235-43.dsl.scarlet.be) left irc: "Leaving" [11:16] stygian (i=stygian@69.149.152.230) joined ##slackware. [11:17] acquiesce__ (n=dkkfjgjk@212.183.140.51) joined ##slackware. [11:17] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [11:17] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:19] would anyone be using vbox on kernel 2.6.32? [11:20] jiraia_ (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:137) left irc: No route to host [11:20] well, seems it's not compatible [11:21] ok, seems it needs a change that will be available in next version ( http://www.mail-archive.com/vbox-users@virtualbox.org/msg07263.html ) [11:22] john_dee (n=id@95-29-11-151.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:22] actually my version compiles fine, the troubles come later on [11:22] they even give you the patch :) [11:24] ok, first time I see this in the output of lsmod: used by "1 [permanent]": "vboxdrv 1708382 1 [permanent]" [11:24] :o [11:25] alienBOB: is that with a 32bit kernel? [11:27] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-39-38.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:29] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [11:29] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:30] Camarade_Tux: why would you use 2.6.32? [11:30] recent hardware among others [11:30] freenose: hardware support plus a bunch of other stuff [11:30] what's sets does disk1 have? I can't find info on that [11:31] freenose: a, ap l n... [11:31] freenose: anything in particular you are looking for? [11:31] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@220-136-224-162.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:32] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [11:32] Camarade_Tux: you have very recente hardware then :) [11:33] spook: was just going to try slack and in doubt if I need the second cd since the machine won't have net access for now [11:33] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [11:33] freenose: yup [11:33] freenose: if you want x11 you need disk2, if you want kde you need disk 2 and disk 3 [11:33] disk 1 is non-optional. [11:34] ok [11:34] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [11:34] i r updated [11:35] or you can get everything on the DVD [11:35] ok, vbox oopses here [11:35] RipVanWinkle: including 3 cds worth of package sources. [11:35] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:36] ilenia (n=dana@151.80.86.44) joined ##slackware. [11:36] i did say everything [11:36] ilenia (n=dana@151.80.86.44) left ##slackware. [11:37] RipVanWinkle: and i aided the definition of everything, which is quite literally, EVERYTHING [11:38] impy (n=impy@97.194-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: [11:41] souda1 (n=jfo@92.84.30.6) left irc: "Leaving" [11:42] smokeybandit (n=cntrfeit@207-237-64-142.c3-0.80w-ubr6.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) joined ##slackware. [11:43] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [11:44] bah [11:44] need some help [11:44] compiled new kernal [11:44] and it seems it cant find the proper modules [11:45] ... [11:45] make modules_install [11:45] did you run that? [11:45] nope [11:45] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:45] Scuzz: well theres your problem. [11:45] lol [11:45] thanx [11:45] i ws following aliens wiki [11:45] aigon (n=jfo@92.84.30.6) joined ##slackware. [11:45] didnt see that [11:46] Scuzz: not to mock you, but how did you think the modules got put in the right place? [11:46] /lib/modules/ [11:46] Scuzz: it's clearly written in that article [11:46] alien's wiki does have make modules_install listed [11:46] make modules_install # installs the modules to /lib/modules/ [11:47] Attack! [11:47] red team GO [11:47] good shooting janson [11:48] nothing like good Sunday morning attack session to get you out of bed [11:48] hobbie, cover me i'm coming around for another pass [11:48] Action: spook continues quoting empire strikes back [11:49] i watched that last night [11:49] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-167-138.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:49] wedge, hobbie, janson, tycho. rogues for life! [11:51] bah there it is [11:51] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [11:51] dont know how i missed that [11:51] greetings [11:51] red october standing by. [11:52] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [11:52] I wonder if vbox used the bad kernel sources when compiling its modules... [11:52] 'bad' ? [11:53] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-39-38.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:53] aigon (n=jfo@92.84.30.6) left irc: "Leaving" [11:54] 2.6.29.6 instead of 2.6.32-rc- [11:55] ùrc6 [11:55] s/ù/*/ [11:55] Camarade_Tux, you also download your kernel sources from kernel.com ? :) [11:55] .com ? [11:56] he was saying he has bad kernel sources [11:56] real kernel site is kernel.org [11:56] he might get bad ones from .com indeed [11:56] .org [11:57] vbox is just one of those of things you don't want to run bleeding edge software like beta kernels [11:57] *on [11:57] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [11:57] Nick change: wertik_rus -> wertik_rus|off [11:57] thanx guys , all good now [11:58] proticon (n=proticon@71-8-193-174.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [11:58] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-168-234-64.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:58] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [11:59] 2.6.32 is bringing some cool stuff, I don't see a reason to not run it :) [11:59] esp. this guy: http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=185 [11:59] its been released? [11:59] it's an rc kernel -_- :D [11:59] yeah exactly. [12:00] thats a pretty good reason not to run it. [12:00] nah :P [12:00] woos :> [12:00] fxer (n=fxer@c-bd02e255.165-500-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [12:00] Scuzz: this is why i told you to go through the first one to give you a good feel of the whole process before going on to build a new version [12:01] thrice`: wow, nice :) [12:01] stuff like "encodes go 70% faster" is reason enough for me to try it out [12:01] yeah i hear ya , i cant beleive i skipped right past that portion of the wiki [12:02] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn110.78-99-108.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [12:02] it's probably the first RC kernel I've run in years, though [12:02] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:02] thrice`: tried by yourself? [12:03] yeah, I'm on RC6. it runs fine here [12:05] I mean, tried x264 before and after? [12:05] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [12:06] ooh, not yet. netflix hasn't come yet :) [12:08] i just never really get the urge to go to new kernels before pat does [12:08] i suppose i might if there was a feature i really thought was worth it or i really needed.. [12:08] ah, I was wondering where had my disk space gone [12:08] 3.2G /gcc-eac0667d1888f4d136a9ac97e162b9db [12:08] :) [12:09] dorin (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: "Leaving" [12:09] lol. [12:09] Camarade_Tux: keep an eye on ~/.ccache/ too [12:10] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-133-25.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:10] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:10] spook: empt currently ;) [12:10] actually I just noticed I hadn't mounted a partition on /home but left it on / [12:11] I still have several things to do ;) [12:14] Nick change: proticon -> proti|away [12:14] stygian (i=stygian@69.149.152.230) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:14] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@66.160.141.30 [12:14] proti|away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [12:14] Nick change: jescis|zZzZ -> jescis [12:14] vaibhav (n=landy@59.96.58.182) joined ##slackware. [12:14] no autorecon. too bad. [12:15] he cant rejoin until he changes his nick to not include away [12:15] cheers everyone [12:15] Action: spook just cracked open his first cider [12:15] cheers spook [12:16] Action: Zordrak has no beer [12:16] Action: winter has a regional one [12:16] stygian (i=stygian@69.149.152.230) joined ##slackware. [12:16] Zordrak: :( [12:16] Zordrak: can i email you one of my ciders? [12:16] s0d0 (n=bggr@host86-175-233-238.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:16] 2.1GB for /, better :) [12:17] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-238.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [12:17] Action: Camarade_Tux has a fridge full of beer [12:17] Camarade_Tux: nice. when do i come visit? [12:17] Camarade_Tux: i am coming there :) [12:18] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:18] he likes me more >:( [12:19] nadf i like his beer. [12:19] brb [12:20] spook: whenever you want, but you'll have to pay for your plane ticket ;) [12:20] vaibhav: same ^^ [12:20] impy (n=impy@97.194-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [12:20] Camarade_Tux: and you'll introduce me to the hot women? [12:21] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5457c96e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:21] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [12:21] yes, the queen of darkness. [12:21] which hot women? did I mention anybody? :o [12:21] smokeybandit (n=cntrfeit@207-237-64-142.c3-0.80w-ubr6.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) left irc: "leaving" [12:21] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) joined ##slackware. [12:21] Camarade_Tux: its france isnt it? [12:21] spook: sure ^^ [12:22] Camarade_Tux: should be hot women everywhere [12:22] fxer (n=fxer@c-bd02e255.165-500-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:22] ;-) [12:22] might take a little training (read: beatings) to get them to stop speaking french [12:22] freenose (n=freenose@204.97.199.7) left ##slackware. [12:23] could be hard without teeth [12:23] they'll talk french and cook french food :) [12:23] Hi [12:24] the only acceptable french behaviour i will tolerate from them is french kissing [12:25] spook: they'll turn you french :) [12:25] Tirili: hi :) [12:25] srecko1 (n=srecko@93-136-7-41.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [12:26] Camarade_Tux: i'll kill myself first [12:26] I have a speaker icon in my kde4 system tray, but when I click on it, I only see a writing "Input Source 3" instead of a regulator. Do you know how to change it so that I can use my mouse wheel over it to change the volume? [12:26] Action: Camarade_Tux sends spook a dozen french girls [12:27] srecko1 (n=srecko@93-136-7-41.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [12:27] Camarade_Tux: thanks, you've got my address [12:27] make sure they have enough air. [12:27] ^^ [12:27] and dont forget tampons [12:28] nah i'll just get them BC implants [12:28] he? [12:29] lasts 2 years, 100% effective. depending on the person, period stops or only every 3 months and very small [12:29] those under skin or the others? [12:30] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:30] v4nelle (n=van@adsl21-114.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:30] and kernel 2.6.32 let my cpu lower its voltage by 30% I think (idle currently) [12:30] superGear (n=supergea@12.10.227.250) joined ##slackware. [12:30] <- happy [12:30] upper arm, under the skin [12:31] greetings gentlemen [12:31] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.16.148) joined ##slackware. [12:32] is there an equivalent to /etc/security/limits.conf file in Slackware ? [12:32] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.226.20.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [12:33] sidh: yes. [12:33] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:33] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [12:33] uh, [12:33] no [12:33] spook: and /etc/pam.d/login ? [12:35] sidh: slackware doesnt have pam. [12:35] ok thank you [12:35] sidh: you can set pam up in slackware, but it is not for the faint-hearted. [12:35] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host188-64-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:36] no i'll try without it [12:36] sidh: you can find pam slackbuilds here: http://ftp.slackware.pl/pub/people/grzech/pam/src/slack12.2/ they need a little repair, but myself, and a few others around here use it successfully. [12:36] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [12:36] hi* [12:36] sidh: can i assume you are trying to use vmware or something similar? [12:36] spook: oracle [12:36] dorin (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [12:36] ah yes. [12:38] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-30-18.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: "Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug." [12:39] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [12:40] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [12:40] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:40] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:40] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@83.225.67.245) joined ##slackware. [12:42] are kernel merge choices made based on Quorum, Jury or Linus? [12:42] Zordrak: as, for inclusion in mainline? [12:42] yeah (if i know what you mean) [12:43] a tree owner pulls to his own tree(s) [12:43] im talking specifically about drbd [12:43] then it's up to you to decide who (and which trees) you trust [12:43] and kernel.org is linus' [12:43] there seems to be only one (or maybe two) people blocking its inclusion [12:43] but in the end, isnt it up to linus? [12:43] Zordrak: its usually about the person who in charge of the particular section of the kernel [12:43] and if not.. is it a matter of majority or is it One Against Kills [12:43] Zordrak: linus cant do it all. he has to have people whos judgement he trusts [12:44] debates on lklm.org too [12:44] im reading the lkml on it now [12:44] spook: indeed.. but surely theres a level at which he has to get involbed because its such a top-level decision [12:45] Zordrak: if he did, he'd be doing nothing else all day [12:46] yay, vboxdrv kernel module no more "[permanent]" [12:46] spook: i know that argument.. but theres always a level something can reach at which point its his responsibility to do something [12:46] same as for Bernie Ecclestone [12:46] and shows this virtual machine isn't 64bit, grrrr [12:47] Zordrak: the clustering stuff is a hot topic. [12:47] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-30-18.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:47] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) left ##slackware. [12:48] tell me about it :) [12:48] theres at least 1 key person who has pretty much said, unless all the different clustering projects get together and hash out a common library/api/way of doing key things, none are going in mainline [12:53] it just seems that most of the detractors are simply not using drbd and not fans of it.. therefore dont understand it and are being a PITA for reasons that dont toally make sense [12:53] Rackattack (n=eric@user-0c8h5mh.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [12:53] there seems to be a lot of weight behind merge-now-fix-later [12:53] and given the argument of creating a framework and having all the different impls in the same place to merge from .. it seems to make sense [12:54] thats the exactly wrong attitude [12:54] merge-now-fix-later is not the kernel way [12:54] http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT11/refresh/AL1109W_NL+gif/204915W_NL_sm.gif [12:54] Any way to make console mode recognize my laptop trackpad? I can't open some of my programs because it complains about it >.> [12:56] Rackattack: you've got a bit of contradiction there, are you talking about a tty? or x11? [12:56] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [12:56] gpm? [12:56] spook: recently it has kinda become the way and in *this* instance it seems to make sense [12:56] stuff is half in half out.. so put all in and then sort out the unification [12:57] and btw, Tomonori Fujita is a twat [12:57] Zordrak: it means it becomes FIX FIX FIX because its broken, rather than doing it a better/proper way before merging [12:57] florida seems like a really nice place :) [12:58] Camarade_Tux: yeah, if you're an old person or work for nasa [12:58] Camarade_Tux: it is nice i love here [12:58] i know.. but in this case the fix is already necessary given the current components.. theres already like three different things that need to be unified.. excluding drbd because its a fourth seems counter-intuitive when it is already clean and meets the merge rules and has a freaking huge userbase [12:58] erm love=live [12:58] Zordrak: large userbase != good codebase [12:58] was actually ironic considering the hurricanes :D [12:59] we have not had a big hurrican in years [12:59] touch wood [12:59] where in florida? [12:59] I live in Tampa [13:00] *shudder* i'm downloading twilight [13:00] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [13:00] vaibhav (n=landy@59.96.58.182) left irc: "Leaving" [13:02] spook: theres no debate on the code quality.. only that its *another* method [13:02] i think Neil Brown put it best: "The mistakes have already been made" [13:03] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-30-18.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: "Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug." [13:03] Zordrak: basically, i don't think drdb is mature enough [13:03] give it another 6-12 months [13:03] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.16.148) left irc: "Leaving" [13:04] "Merging perfectly working and widely used code, so that it will be easier for the community to maintain, to learn from, and to help improve is not a mistake. Had the implementers deliberately ignored the established practice in the kernel for doing things you might have a case. But there was no established practice to follow or to ignore." [13:04] its not like you cant run drdb if its not in mainline [13:04] no indeed.. it just seems like a logical step [13:05] and i can respect your opinion of the maturity.. but maturity isnt the argument on kernel inclusion atm.. no-one seems to be debating the maturity.. only the kernel development process on similar frameworks [13:05] Zordrak: i think a comparable case is kvm. [13:05] that didnt get merged into the kernel for AGEEEEEEEEEEEES [13:06] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-30-18.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:06] well, kvm got merged pretty quickly [13:07] what's the /proc/cpuinfo name of amd's virt tech? [13:07] svm [13:07] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@87.121.162.194) left irc: "q" [13:07] thanks :) [13:08] i think the path to speed kernel merging is, dont call them they'll call you [13:09] linus doesn't even write code anymore, I don't think [13:09] spook: just seems that in this case.. all of the normal work has been done.. the people who decide have decided that it is a good time and that the code is mature enough to go in etc.. but there is dissent from people who think it just doesnt deserve to go in.. ever; rather than people who think its not ready [13:09] I think he only manages patches from others [13:09] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:10] Zordrak: well yeah, but give it time. things will change [13:10] thrice`: thats what happens to the git maintainer of a large project [13:10] they eventually devolve into reviewing and merging patches into the tree [13:12] I guess that's not really a bad position for him to be in, though [13:13] it just seems like another pointless cock-measuring contest.. [13:13] well the most competent person should be the one reviewing other's code [13:15] spook: you've ever actually used drbd in production? [13:15] Im all for stopping immature code.. but not just stopping something cause too many others have already done the exact same thing.. and not done it as well, and not with as good a user base [13:16] alienBOB: being a student, obviously not. [13:16] DRBD is *extremely* well-mailtained mature code [13:16] spook: being a student did not stop you from running Slackware instead of ubuntu [13:16] and the drbd dev arent even being bullish about it.. they are bending over backwards and offereing to do as much work as is necessary later on.. they just dont want to be excluded JUST because they didnt approach kernel inclusion sooner than MD and DM have [13:16] There are many students in IT positions in universities [13:17] alienBOB: they dont get to do stuff like drdb [13:17] tbf drbd is one of those things its hard to find an excuse to play with until you really need it [13:18] and have the machines to use to playu wioth [13:18] Yeah well. I have been using drbd since 2003 - in critical services that needed high-availability - and it has never failed me even once [13:19] 2002 even, I think [13:19] alienBOB: i dont doubt the fact that it works. [13:20] Codeless (n=rjhvl@ka-wrl-ip32104.kos.net) joined ##slackware. [13:21] impy (n=impy@97.194-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:21] as i said before.. i think the argument has moved on from maturity. The concensus seems to be that it is mature enough for the kernel (*cough*btrs*cough*) .. its now just a cock-measuring contest between those who want it in for better development and user support versus those who dont want it in cause theres already a mess to be sorted out and they dont want any more pieces in the mess [13:21] heysel (n=user@aahh236.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:21] s/btrs/btrfs/ [13:21] impulse- (n=impy@191.209-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [13:23] i like this take on it: "To put it another way: Would you really keep a stable SCSI raid driver for existing hardware out of mainline by claiming they need to write a new raid-management abstraction first? If not, then why the pushback on DRBD?" [13:23] well yes i'm in the less mess camp. [13:23] and the standardisation of clustering technology camp [13:24] what the hell is drbd [13:24] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.16.148) joined ##slackware. [13:24] oh [13:24] spook: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.network.drbd.devel/953/focus=889988 [13:25] heysel (n=user@aahh236.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: "ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)" [13:25] ask jeev [13:25] oh [13:25] I am in the 'get drbd in that kernel asap' camp [13:25] pig pen [13:25] wtf, you haven't been on in a long ass time [13:25] thought you cut yourself peeling potatos [13:26] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.16.148) left irc: Client Quit [13:26] yeah, i had a big pile of potates fall on me and i had to peel my way out [13:26] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-18-65.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:26] bonsoir [13:27] lolol [13:27] heysel (n=user@aahh236.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:28] i also have some pet projects i'd like to see mainlined in the kernel. one thing i keep thinking about is that linux is monoloithic...and the kernel is becoming enormous - unruly even. [13:29] not sure what can be done about that though :/ [13:30] just be thankful the kernel is easy to build so people can build their own custom kernel eliminating parts they dont use (trimming the fat) because that booger is getting pretty damn fat [13:30] alienBOB: good on you [13:30] alienBOB: i just cant figure why patching instructions have been thrown out [13:31] Zordrak: its a plot to get more people to complain that its not in mainline yet [13:31] alienBOB: last time i looked the patching docs had been removed from the drbd site and lots of related userland stuff is bitching if the module isnt loaded [13:32] spook: bleh [13:32] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [13:32] Pig_Pen, except for you want multiple things somehow [13:32] :/ [13:33] alienBOB, im so happy about the html 5 video man [13:33] i dont know why but i am [13:33] firebird mentioned last night that pat released a seamonkey 2.x security upgrade but i don't see it on any of my radar screens - was f'bird smokin' crack [13:33] ?? [13:34] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.16.148) joined ##slackware. [13:35] Hermann (n=Hermannn@81.170.156.174) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [13:35] i see it on 12.2 [13:35] mancha: the upgrade is there....upgraded stable and -current this am. [13:35] | Upgrading seamonkey-1.1.18-i486-1_slack12.2 package using ./seamonkey-2.0-i486-1_slack12.2.tgz [13:35] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.16.148) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:36] Zordrak: agree to disagree :P [13:36] <3 [13:36] sup hitest [13:37] mancha: no, it's there, on tds and osuosl mirrors. [13:37] not much jeev:) how are you? [13:37] not sure about others. [13:37] phoneix, was there a security notification? [13:37] hey hitest, how's it going? [13:37] eh, im whatever [13:37] depressing myself [13:37] i have a lot of work today but i haven't done anything in a month [13:37] :) [13:37] night [13:37] mancha: I don't believe so, no. [13:37] hiya phoenix^ :) [13:37] Nick change: phoenix^ -> fire|bird [13:38] it goes well, thank you, fire|bird [13:38] initself (n=initself@wsip-98-174-154-206.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:38] strange, looking in the mirrors i see it for 12.2 and 13.0 but not 12.1 or earlier. is he releasing piecemeal and will issue the security notice after all versions are out? (me is confuzzled) [13:38] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:39] mancha: yeah, I'm not sure, but I just have 13 and -current here, which it's available for. [13:39] the seamonkey 2.0 script in current fails for me [13:40] well, i am befuddled. if anyone has any insight on the s-monkey process i'd love to grok it [13:40] neonflux: slackware has released it for 12.2, 13 and current though now. I never did get it to build. [13:41] fire|bird: I know...but I did try to build it and ran into a couple of issues [13:42] neonflux: yeah, I'd like to know what the slack team did to get it to build, I spent a lot of time trying to get it to build. [13:42] Rackattack (n=eric@user-0c8h5mh.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:42] I worked on that since 2.0 was released, which was 10.27.09 [13:42] i cant believe the amount of tax my friend in .dk pays [13:42] yeah, they just do a make and make install [13:43] SkyNet_ONE (n=Ederson@187.34.44.224) joined ##slackware. [13:43] SkyNet_ONE (n=Ederson@187.34.44.224) left irc: Client Quit [13:43] the problem I'm having is that configure doesn't understand the SLKCFLAGS and then bails...and 'layout/build/Makefile.in' has moved to 'mozilla/layou/build/Makefile.in' [13:44] neonflux: I didn't get anything like that. [13:44] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [13:44] fire|bird: using the old script or the new one in current/13.0? [13:45] neonflux: the one from 13 [13:45] fire|bird: yeah, the script has changed [13:45] i am thinking of removing my creative labs sound card (1371) and using the built in Intel-HDA-VIA 1701 sound [13:46] neonflux: Ah, ok. [13:46] acquiesce__ (n=dkkfjgjk@212.183.140.51) left irc: "Leaving" [13:46] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host188-64-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [13:48] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [13:49] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:51] impulse- (n=impy@191.209-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: [13:51] if anyone is still on the 1.x branch, don't use it. [13:51] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-133-25.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:52] 1.x branch of what? [13:52] Seamonkey [13:53] hey fire|bird :) [13:53] Codeless (n=rjhvl@ka-wrl-ip32104.kos.net) left irc: [13:53] hey Camarade_Tux [13:53] and why this advice? [13:53] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@weirdbox.ddns.playtime.bg) joined ##slackware. [13:53] 1.1.17, which is what slack had before 2.0 upgrade, has a sec advisory against it. [13:53] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:53] ah, I see [13:53] Camarade, except you. you _should+ use it :P [13:54] haha [13:54] mancha: I already removepkg'ed the 2 and I'm about to installpkg the 1 :) [13:54] thanks for the tip :) [13:54] glad to be of help [13:55] what the hell happened? http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/x264/snapshots/ [13:55] source size dropped from 2.7MB to 354KB [13:57] fbird, 12.1 has 1.1.18 for example, and this one is the last 1.1.x issued but it also is vuln [13:58] last one issued on that tree by mozilla, that is [13:58] Camarade_Tux, i make things happen [13:59] mancha: yeah, it's odd they would have released for 12.2, 13, current, but not 12.1 or others affected. [13:59] yes, only reason i can think of is that it's a time-consuming task to compile them and pat is releasing as he gets them done [14:00] thieusoai (n=thieusoa@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) joined ##slackware. [14:00] the moz announcement is not that old, after all, circa 10/26 [14:00] but it was on a few mailing lists before that some embargo'd [14:01] jeev: :) [14:02] for installing oracle we neeed to set some kernel options in /etc/sysctl.conf, that is what i did, but at reboot it seems this file is not read, why ? [14:03] sidh is your colonel saavy to sysctl? [14:03] mancha: ? [14:03] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:04] just make the conf file, and it should give you sugar [14:04] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [14:04] Guest17998 (n=si@60-242-50-107.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: [14:04] bob818 (n=Zulu@161-217-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [14:05] rc.S handles running sysctl with that conf file, if it exist (if [ -x /sbin/sysctl -a -r /etc/sysctl.conf ]; then) [14:05] i already made it but it seems orainstaller didn't find the changes [14:06] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5457c96e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: "leaving" [14:07] sorry, i've got no experience running oracle on slack :( [14:08] if it is needed at install time why not make the sys changes manually? or summit [14:08] I don't think Slackware is a supported platform for Oracle [14:09] Nerdina (n=Anonymou@200-55-77-230.dsl.prima.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [14:09] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431272.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:12] aWNED (i=827f935c@gateway/web/freenode/x-egajbguuywkjuzdg) joined ##slackware. [14:12] sidh, straterra's got your answer. you might want to visit the oracle lists...i bet someone's hacked oracle onto slack at some point. [14:13] is straterra here? [14:14] oh crazy [14:14] straterra, cod4? own you a little more? [14:14] In a bit [14:14] I'm packing [14:14] let me know [14:15] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [14:15] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@66.160.141.30 [14:15] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-94-42-19-249.multimo.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:15] anyone knows from which kernel on we'll have kms? [14:15] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:15] maybe 2.6.32? [14:15] isnt' that what they've built it into ? [14:16] anybody here use Miro? [14:16] on slackware [14:16] not sure... [14:16] of course :) [14:16] just tested a fedora nightly that has kms and my radeon card just r0x there [14:16] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:16] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:16] hmm ? [14:17] even suspension and gl works flawlessly [14:17] isn't kms a way to stretch out KVM ? 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[14:21] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:25] Nerdina (n=Anonymou@200-55-77-230.dsl.prima.net.ar) left irc: [14:29] josefig (n=JoseFig@200.56.150.49) joined ##slackware. [14:29] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431272.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:31] I haz no more water in the fridge, only beer [14:31] anyone here successfully compiled a nice *clean* install of banshee on slackware64? [14:31] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431272.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:31] =/ [14:32] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:32] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:32] aWNED: 1- doesn't it rely on gnome? 2- why banshee? [14:32] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.209.151) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:33] Camarade_Tux: 1- no totally, 2- it has nice ipod support. emphasis on the nice [14:33] Camarade_Tux: It needs mono [14:33] john_dee (n=id@95-29-11-151.broadband.corbina.ru) left ##slackware. [14:33] fire|bird: oh right [14:33] grazymax (n=grazymax@host8-2-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:35] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.159.58) joined ##slackware. [14:35] grazymax (n=grazymax@host108-23-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:38] john_dee (n=id@95-29-11-151.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:38] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:39] hm, do we have in repository package with sqlite ? 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[15:07] w3b3r (n=tomasz@78.8.79.33) left irc: Client Quit [15:10] mannynix: yes, in slackware base install [15:10] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-39-38.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:10] mannynix: sorry, tab fail [15:10] mac-: ^^ [15:11] :> [15:11] np [15:12] is anywhere another repository browser another than packages.slackware.it [15:12] ? [15:12] Nick change: wertik_rus -> wertik_rus|off [15:13] Camarade_Tux: np :) [15:14] millionyearsfrom (n=milliony@c-76-19-53-234.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:16] millionyearsfrom (n=milliony@c-76-19-53-234.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:17] wertik_rus|off (n=wertik@95-24-56-81.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:18] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-56-81.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:19] is dolphin77 (from the LQ forums) anyone of the regulars here? [15:20] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. 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[15:29] happyslacker (n=happysla@71-20-52-214.war.clearwire-wmx.net) joined ##slackware. [15:29] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/radeon-kms-works-760963/ <- mesa.Slackbuild [15:29] Kaapa: remove all the whitespace after the final \ in the second line [15:30] oh, of course!! [15:30] melu__ (n=melu@85.128.1.20) joined ##slackware. [15:30] The 3rd line that is [15:30] hello, I need some help with a shellscript: I have an if statement in the form if [ $string=='A' ] then ... else ... fi [15:30] for some reason [15:30] Need to sanitize all of them. copied them from the web page [15:30] it's not going to the else part when the value is not A [15:31] Akuma: better paste the *Exact* statement because the aboce has an error to start with [15:31] above* [15:32] pastebin.com/m26d76252 [15:34] I displayed the value in the "then" just to make sure I had the right thing and even though the value is not equal it still stays in the main if statement instead of going to the else part [15:34] oops, in this code I replaced the else with another if [15:35] http://pastebin.com/m7561e613 [15:35] that's the right one [15:36] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [15:39] Akuma: some spaces around your equality signs would help ;-) [15:39] impy (n=impy@88.147.64.235) joined ##slackware. [15:39] in the if statements? [15:40] Akuma: yes, as in: if [[ $string == 'A' ]]; then ...; else ...; fi [15:40] I get an unexpected operator 'M' when I do that [15:41] You edited it in Windows [15:41] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:41] nope [15:41] I'm using Kate [15:41] It has incorrect line feeds [15:41] Akuma: your script works fine here [15:41] arg [15:41] run it though dos2unix [15:41] ok [15:41] brb [15:43] would I have to save it with a specific encoding? [15:43] lee_ (n=lee__@ip70-191-240-145.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~" [15:43] right now it's on UTF-8 [15:43] edited on a linux machine [15:45] also redited it with pico [15:45] I get the same errors [15:45] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:47] kristian1 (n=kristian@130.80-202-194.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [15:49] darylc (n=dc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:49] 1. dos2unix < yourfile > tempfile ; mv tempfile yourfile 2. Use a real editor. [15:50] rworkman: what editor might that be [15:50] I'm not sure on the encoding. Kate defaults to ISO 8859-1 for me, which seems to work. Maybe make sure Tools > End of Line is set to UNIX. [15:50] vim ftw!!! [15:50] fire|bird: agreed :) [15:50] Akuma: vi of course. [15:52] lol, too much of a pain to use vi [15:53] happyslacker: I have those settings already set [15:53] also changed my file to ISO 8859-1 [15:53] same problem [15:53] Torchlight is a great new game made by Runic Games. Some of the developers behind Torchlight were also behind Diablo 1 and 2. The game is currently Windows only, but they might make a Linux version. Here is some game info: http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/torchlight/review.html?part=rss&subj=6238401 If you like what you see, register and make your voice heard here: http://forums.runicgames.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=901 [15:53] happyslacker: Is vim why you're happy then? :P [15:53] darylc (n=dc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:54] ok, that's interesting, if I change form /bin/sh to /bin/bash it works [15:54] kristian1: one more word and you're banned [15:54] ##slackware: mode change '+o alienBOB' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [15:54] alienBOB: lol, probably a spambot [15:55] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:55] fire|bird: yep :) [15:55] Twilight is a shitty series of books becoming movies, aimed at teenage girls it is generic trashy romance with vampires that sparkle. [15:56] ThomasLocke_ (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:57] lol [15:58] datalock (n=datalock@189.35.128.45) joined ##slackware. [15:59] mmlj4 (n=jkelly@ip70-171-94-246.no.no.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:59] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn-164.95-102-85.t-com.sk) left ##slackware ("good night"). [15:59] alienBOB: sorry. (hope that didn't count) [15:59] Akuma: nope, not a spam bot. [16:00] will be quiet now. [16:00] kristian1: ##slackware is not for your all channel spam messages. [16:01] spook: sorry, i won't mention the game again. but it wasn't meant as spam, just to make people aware. (now ill be quiet) [16:01] don't be sorry, just beat it. [16:01] :-( [16:02] kristian1: i really dont care if you're sorry, just dont do it again. [16:03] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:04] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.226.20.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:07] dellwood (i=827f936c@gateway/web/freenode/x-ceexxvouhmshuzqq) joined ##slackware. [16:07] dont be torched by your own light. [16:08] thats enough coconut rum, time for sleep. [16:08] how do I install windows on slackware [16:08] dellwood: what [16:08] very quietly, dellwood [16:08] spook: i dont like this whole cli thing.. [16:08] dellwood: in a virtual machine? or do you mean wine? [16:08] oooh. [16:08] spook: no, windows is a program... duh.. [16:08] dellwood: install the /x/ and /xap/ series [16:09] Action: dellwood lols at nubness of spook [16:09] dellwood: uh. its called x11/xwindows. [16:09] .... fight! [16:09] whats the x series [16:09] x11 is a mac thing [16:09] dellwood: what was that thing you said a moment ago... [16:09] sdkmvx (n=martin@unaffiliated/sdkmvx) joined ##slackware. [16:09] something about nubness [16:09] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [16:10] i said [16:10] Action: dellwood laughs at nubness of spook [16:10] ah i see. [16:10] dellwood: unfortunately you are the only one here who does not see the irony in that. [16:10] spook = irony [16:11] well, seeing as you are all unhelpfull im of to go while (1) my mom [16:11] dellwood: if you have slackpkg setup you can simply slackpkg install x; slackpkg install xap [16:11] dellwood (i=827f936c@gateway/web/freenode/x-ceexxvouhmshuzqq) left ##slackware. [16:11] that was, well, interesting. [16:11] i hate people like that [16:12] i find them entertaining [16:12] Codeless (n=rjhvl@ka-wrl-ip32104.kos.net) joined ##slackware. [16:12] hmm, what does is mean to "while (1)" someone? [16:12] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:12] it* [16:12] well i jsut find that they should find somethign better to do [16:12] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [16:12] happyslacker: one does not simply while (1) into mordor [16:13] holy shit the sun is up [16:13] ##slackware: mode change '-o alienBOB' by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [16:13] while (1=1) die; ? [16:14] kristian1 (n=kristian@130.80-202-194.nextgentel.com) left irc: "leaving" [16:14] Action: toastytoast realizes that rlly wasn't that clever [16:15] tux_boy (n=gaurav@122.172.26.6) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:15] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [16:15] Codeless (n=rjhvl@ka-wrl-ip32104.kos.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:17] Action: jg71 waits for it to happen [16:18] correcaminos (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) joined ##slackware. [16:19] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-56-81.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [16:19] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [16:20] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [16:20] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [16:20] dellwood (i=827f936c@gateway/web/freenode/x-ceexxvouhmshuzqq) joined ##slackware. [16:21] yearad1million (n=yearad1m@c-76-19-53-234.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:21] that whole x windows thingy didnt work spook [16:22] dellwood: you left before i could finish helping you install and set it up [16:22] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [16:22] it installed a bunch of stuff but if i type in windows it says "/usr/bin/windows: command not found [16:22] " [16:22] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:22] dellwood: heres a crazy thought. type 'startx' [16:22] LOL [16:22] startx isnt real words [16:23] dellwood isn't a real word so you and startx should get along jsut fine [16:23] dellwood: you are a poe. [16:23] d(^.^)b [16:23] Eo3 [16:23] dude [16:23] i just bought the giant redbull [16:23] its disgusting [16:23] you're either legitimately this stupid, or a very cleverly disguised troll [16:23] troll [16:24] what is a troll [16:24] ? [16:24] you [16:24] dellwood != troll [16:24] Action: jg71 opens a can of fish [16:25] Action: dellwood slaps jg71 with fish [16:25] oh snap [16:25] how do you know you aren't a troll if you don't know what a troll is? [16:25] don't eat the fish if they're anchovies and the year is 3000 [16:25] and you happen to be named phillip j. fry [16:25] yearad1million: thats a good point... i must not be a troll then. im actually a human, not a fantasy creature [16:25] you slice the gene into a bunch of third world orphans to make robot oil [16:26] and go back in time and become your own grandfather [16:26] dellwood: thats right, keep on proving that you're a troll [16:26] im not a troll :( [16:26] you confuse troll with smurf, dellwood [16:26] no, hes a poe [16:26] i seriously need help getting windows installed on slackware [16:26] you cant tell if hes a troll or just very stupid, so hes a poe. [16:26] spook: here, have my liver. I have two more! [16:26] [16:26] where's your problem dellwood? [16:26] lol [16:27] and there's now one entire screen of worthless shit here. /ignore is your friend. [16:27] 1 deviled egg. [16:27] the same deviled egg. [16:27] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:27] rworkman: yeah but you can't and shouldn't ignore futurama quotes/references :-) [16:27] mmiv (n=chatzill@cpe-98-150-157-235.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:27] seconded. [16:27] spook: hahahaha [16:28] dellwood: You don't install windows on Slackware. If you are legitimately asking for that, then you are in the wrong place, because IRC is a horrible place to get basic information, and nobody here is going to be willing to do that for you. [16:28] rworkman: then how do i get a gui on linux [16:28] dellwood: X windows, aka xorg. [16:28] run a live-cd like knoppix [16:28] rworkman: i've already worked out what he means, but hes unwilling to take, listen to or follow any advice. [16:28] startx flashes my screen and it comes back to cli [16:29] i stand corrected. [16:29] dellwood: Did you do a full install of Slackware? [16:29] first, run xorgsetup [16:29] hiptobecubic (n=john@75.111.189.11) joined ##slackware. [16:29] dellwood: well then read your /var/log/Xorg.blahblah.log file. [16:29] yearad1million: no. not in 13.0 [16:29] search for "EE" [16:29] spook, next best thing is radio-support for his windows [16:29] no? it seemed to work [16:30] yearad1million: you dont need to setup an xorg.conf anymore. [16:30] sier (n=sier@c-24-62-71-60.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:30] for simple configuraitons you probably don't need to do any setup of xorg [16:30] it seems to autodetect things pretty well [16:30] okay [16:30] how about xwmconfig, was that needed? [16:30] on a macbookpro [16:30] how do i get a window gui [16:30] yearad1million: that just changes the default window manager. [16:31] dellwood, rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf as root and try startx again [16:31] now if you're running dual head or somoething like that, seems like an xorg.conf file is necessary [16:31] sdkmvx: I always suggest mv and not rm [16:31] sdkmvx: that is ill advised. a safer suggestion is to mv it [16:31] that is safer [16:31] safe = boring [16:31] ok, so I didn't waste all that time for nothing, spook [16:31] wasnt i going to bed? [16:32] Action: dellwood rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf [16:32] Action: dellwood startx [16:32] dellwood: don't be an idiot [16:32] although I doubt dellwood knows much about what X anyway [16:32] spook: you were, yes. [16:32] :O [16:32] dellwood: mv it and not rm [16:32] zomg [16:32] it worked [16:32] thanks so much you guys ^_^ [16:32] i love the linux community because its so helpful :D [16:32] Action: dellwood kisses spook [16:32] dellwood: thanks for actually listening to our help. [16:32] oooh spook and dellwood sitting in a tree... [16:33] haha [16:33] jk [16:33] bye [16:33] dellwood (i=827f936c@gateway/web/freenode/x-ceexxvouhmshuzqq) left ##slackware. [16:33] Sier- (n=sier@c-24-62-71-60.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:33] yearad1million: the exceptions are, dual screen setups, using binary drivers, funky input stuff that hal mucks up on. [16:33] and non-us keyb layouts [16:34] well I do have dual head card, even though I don't have the second monitor [16:34] jg71: no those are done through... inputrc [16:34] i think [16:34] i had to pimp some hal policy file ... [16:34] whatever works. :) [16:35] jg71: basically hal does all the input stuff. the xorg.conf doesnt which was my point [16:35] ack [16:36] spook: hell even with dual screen using an xorg.conf wasn't enough. the oss ati drivers weren't reading hte resolution information on my 2nd monitor properly, so I had to do some fun stuff with xrandr [16:36] Sier-_ (n=sier@c-24-62-71-60.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:36] Sier-_ (n=sier@c-24-62-71-60.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:36] ati arent that great for linux atm [16:36] Sier- (n=sier@c-24-62-71-60.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:36] I had a dumb question, does linux save no command histories between consecutive shell runnings? [16:37] fire|bird: wasnt i going to bed like an hour ago? [16:37] yearad1million: ~/bash_history [16:37] sier (n=sier@unaffiliated/sier) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:37] spook: yes, you said you were anyway. :P [16:37] triple-monitor with 2 on one card is fun :( [16:37] spook: they are better than fglrx... meaning taht at least I can get X to launch with them [16:37] Sier- (n=sier@c-24-62-71-60.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] could someone explain to me [16:37] hey fred, how are you? [16:37] why the sun is up [16:37] mmiv (n=chatzill@cpe-98-150-157-235.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0/20091017081335]" [16:37] at 5:37am [16:37] the propratary drivers work pretty well for me once the oss ones get good 3d excel support for my card i'll switch to them [16:38] spook, that would do it, I guess, because I always use tcsh [16:38] spook: answer for me why you are up at 5:37am.... I havent' gotten up that early since I was in the army [16:38] hehe [16:38] yearad1million, I'm sure terminals like konsole or xterm save when they're closed [16:38] mishehu: i havent gotten up, i'm still up [16:38] i was up until 9am [16:38] spook: ok makes better sense then. if you were one of those morning people, I'd have to hurt you :-) [16:38] jonsmith1982, I must have misconfigured then [16:38] i woke up about an hour ago [16:39] I try to use the goodness of bash-history between terminals and end up being annoyed. [16:39] its 4:39pm [16:39] /w 9 [16:39] sorry [16:39] irssi fail [16:39] I woke up at 5am and the surf was so big I could hear it breaking from my house so I slept until 8:30 and went out [16:39] irssi didn't fail, you did. [16:40] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@62-47-148-244.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:40] antiwire, :| am jealous. [16:40] I found things to be annoyed with :) like not being able to ctrl-c out of more [16:40] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-168-234-59.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:40] mishehu: i fucking hate them too [16:40] could anyone point in the right direction for beaing able to change how rxvt renders the ANSI colors? [16:41] okay i'm actually going to sleep... starting........ n------now [16:41] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-238.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:41] (like rendering bold blue in an alternate blu-ish hue instead of actually bolded?) [16:42] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-54.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [16:42] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@weirdbox.ddns.playtime.bg) joined ##slackware. [16:42] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Client Quit [16:43] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-54.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:43] correcaminos_ (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) joined ##slackware. [16:44] http://www.rxvt.org/manual.html [16:44] ezrafree (i=ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) joined ##slackware. [16:44] hello [16:44] It mentions something about specifying color to use with bold font [16:45] i've added a sata laptop drive to my computer, how can i figure out which /dev/sda1 (etc.) to use? [16:45] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host188-64-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:45] dmesg | more [16:46] look though till you find something resembling the description of your new drive, and see what got assigned to it [16:46] ezrafree, fdisk -l may help [16:47] ezrafree: you can try # fdisk -l and you can try # blkid [16:48] hmm it doesn't show up in fdisk -l so maybe it's not properly connected afterall [16:48] # blkid [16:48] don't see it showing up in blkid either [16:49] Nick change: hy -> _hy [16:50] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [16:51] maybe i'll try looking in the bios now [16:52] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [16:52] i appreciate everyone's help [16:52] bbiaf [16:53] good luck [16:53] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-54-228.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [16:53] sdkmvx (n=martin@unaffiliated/sdkmvx) left ##slackware. [16:55] MuJ (i=muttilai@so.stnd.net) left ##slackware. [16:56] LauriX (n=Tuxa@200-55-77-230.dsl.prima.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [16:57] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [16:58] can someone buy me an ASN? :< [16:58] i'll do your dishs. [16:58] for a week! [16:58] hahah [16:58] yeah get me one too [16:59] i have an ASN, i'd get in massive shit if i rebound it though :P [17:00] handing them out like candy or what? [17:01] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-238.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:01] correcaminos (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:01] haha. [17:02] i wish :) [17:02] that along with /20's :) [17:03] iManufacturer 1 MetaGeek [17:03] iProduct 2 Wi-Spy 2.4x [17:04] this thing is neat, shame they used a reverse SMC for the connector, just to be damn akward... i have 100s of pigtails but non fit ;< [17:05] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:06] RPSMA is pretty much the standard though [17:06] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [17:06] if it's not a TNC chances are pretty good that it is RP-SMA [17:06] yes, i just dont have :( [17:06] i have one for 7cm lol... its only passive so maybe... it would work. [17:09] antiwire: yes, its a RP-SMA :) [17:09] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:09] good evening all [17:09] hello pot [17:09] :> [17:10] Mr Potentiometer [17:10] lol [17:11] I'm trying to setup samba to display and share a cups based printer and not having any luck, does anyone have experience with this? [17:11] SAMBA destroys lives, like crack. [17:11] Action: acidchild has used [17:11] i just keep chasing the draggon that windows networking will work [17:12] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [17:12] lol [17:12] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-185-084.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:12] keep shooting that damn samba stuff up... but i never get the same buzz of excitment as my first file transfer curruption [17:12] I agree, but I am trying to setup the printer so I can print print my work laptop while at home [17:13] darylc (n=dc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:13] GD white collar samba users, day rippin' off 'erybody [17:13] :p [17:13] mfillpot: read the SAmba HOWTO collection - it is well-explained in there [17:13] ty alienBOB [17:13] mfillpot: try SWAT, might give you a more visual way of dealing with it. [17:13] could you setup for tcp/ip printing instead of samba? [17:13] cups raw printer FTW [17:13] :D [17:14] if samba is coke, SWAT is crack [17:14] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:14] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) joined ##slackware. [17:14] hmm the laptop sata drive i've connected doesn't even show up in BIOS [17:14] Action: nachox looks at the regulars puzzled [17:14] correcaminos (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) joined ##slackware. [17:14] i guess maybe the drive is just bad or something [17:14] mfillpot: perhaps this will help a bit: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:cups#making_cups_work_with_samba [17:14] nachox: we see you looking at us like that [17:15] ezrafree: is the disk known to be good? [17:15] jomo (n=ralle@p3EE21871.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [17:15] tank-man (i=1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: "Got some milk stuck in my teeth" [17:15] antiwire: once your nose starts falling apart you gotta move on to crack [17:15] antiwire: i'm not sure actually, definitely a possibility it's bad [17:15] jomo (n=ralle@p3EE21871.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [17:15] darylc (n=darylc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:15] darylc (n=darylc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) left irc: Client Quit [17:15] ezrafree: stick it back into the laptop [17:15] alienBOB: that appears to be what I was looking for [17:16] see if it detects there and if it doesn't try it in a desktop with different cables [17:16] ezrafree: At risk of insulting you (which is not my intent at all); is the disk cabled correctly? power + data? [17:17] ezrafree: Do other SATA disks detect on the same system/card/cable setup? [17:17] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host188-64-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [17:18] Action: Kaapa is trying to install kms... will he be able to have a decent radeon driver today? [17:19] Nick change: _hy -> hy [17:19] antiwire: yes i believe so, i have other sata drives i use, one is my cd rom drive that uses an ide-to-sata adapter since i was running out of ide ports on my mobo [17:19] i do have both cables attached to the laptop drive as well, one for power and one for data [17:20] how dangerous to my hardware is it to remove/add sata cables while still powered on? that's not a good idea, right? [17:20] bad idea [17:20] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:20] thought so hehe [17:20] ezrafree: as long as there are no drivers loaded the sata physical specification allows for that. [17:20] it will not hurt the disks or controller as long as they are not in use. [17:20] the same does not apply to PATA [17:21] cdrom drive was connected, presumably with driver [17:21] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:24] I actually have a script that lets me warm swap SATA devices on my laptop [17:24] it's good stuff [17:25] it's a shame the world never got more into firewire [17:25] my laptop has a media bay which can accept SATA hard drives, cd/dvd drives and extra batteries. The script I came up with safely disables the connected devices and allows for safe warm swapping without killing the controller's module [17:26] without your script, would it still be a bad idea for ezrafree to hot swap? [17:27] it depends on his controller [17:27] I'm on an Intel ICH-7 which handles warm swapping properly [17:27] it does not handle hot swapping though [17:28] arielg (n=ari@host41.190-139-163.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:31] My server has a Promise SATA150tx2+ card and I have been able to hot swap on that setup as long as the disks are unmounted first. However I would suggest checking this out: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/sU34Pv44.html [17:31] is it common for a module to still load even after adding it to blacklist.conf? [17:32] correcaminos__ (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) joined ##slackware. [17:32] use that only as an example and do not try this without testing it on non critical setups first. [17:32] the device paths you most likely differ for you too [17:32] no, it is not common [17:33] if you want the module to never load, couldn't you rename it? [17:33] mancha: didn't think so. it's ubuntu, though asking in ubuntu is like not asking [17:33] blacklist it and remove it from rc.modules as well [17:33] I mean rename the file, or move it, so it can't be found [17:33] it's for a friends computer. trying to get the low power bcm4312 to work. [17:33] mmlj4 (n=jkelly@ip70-171-94-246.no.no.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:34] antiwire: ahh good idea. thank you [17:34] and you want to blacklist what? b43? [17:34] mancha: yes b43 and ssb. ssb keeps loading [17:34] gnubien (n=e@97.100.244.231) joined ##slackware. [17:35] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.21.46) joined ##slackware. [17:35] if b43 loads it'll bringup ssb [17:35] s/bringup/bring up/ [17:36] b43 actually doesn't load. only ssb [17:37] so you want it to load b43 first and still have ssb available? [17:37] I understand that he wants neither to load [17:37] huh? [17:37] right [17:38] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431272.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:38] and if you blacklist ssb you don't get sugar i assume. what else is brining it up? [17:38] b43, I think he said [17:38] well modinfo ssb doesn't show any dependents for it [17:39] thats the wrong direction [17:39] yearad1million stop digging [17:39] antiwire: http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/22/cat-5-wedding-rings-help-nerds-couple/ [17:39] mrself, the question is what parents does it have not what children [17:39] so why not move both modules to some other directory? [17:39] oh baby, let me insert my tip into your jack [17:39] if i rmmod ssb then rmmod wl (wl being what i need to load) then modprobe wl the wireless then works [17:40] what does wl depend on? [17:40] lib80211 [17:41] hmm let me see if I can narrow the parent for ssb [17:42] acidchild: I'm pretty sure 99.999% of females would not be down for that [17:43] I have yet to meet a real geek chick. I'm pretty sure they are a myth. [17:43] antiwire my girlfriend digs. [17:43] :P [17:43] i just showed her [17:43] you got on the the .0001 [17:43] antiwire, it's because they get treated so badly on geek channels [17:43] .001 [17:43] correcaminos_ (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) left irc: Connection timed out [17:43] how can I debug the linux env by myself .. for example the firefox crashes giving me no messages ... if only I could know which lib causes it .... [17:44] for i in $(lsmod | awk '{print $1}'); do j=$(modinfo $i | grep depends | grep ssb); if ! [[ -z "$j" ]]; then echo "$i $j"; fi; done or summit [17:44] paul424: First, are you running flash or any other Firefox plugins / addons ? [17:44] yearad1million: dont meet them on irc then :P [17:44] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [17:44] it'll prolly bork on "Module" but i can't be arsed [17:44] yes I do but always it worked fine. [17:45] Step 2: disable all extra plugins and addons [17:45] does it still happen after that? [17:45] k, i'll try it [17:46] nothing shows up in the system log? [17:46] brb [17:46] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102141836]" [17:46] rule number 2 ... use a proper irc client. ;) [17:46] yeah, i borked on Module lol [17:47] lol [17:47] can i haz my seamonkey security update, kthnx [17:47] I haz it! [17:47] mrself, yeah, it shouldn't matter though, ignore the warning [17:47] mancha: weren't they released earlier? [17:47] antiwire: http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images/2008-01/cat-5-8-prong-connector-rings.jpg [17:47] antiwire: lok at the right one! :O [17:47] BPk, not for all versions (ie not as a security notice) [17:47] seamonkey 2 has already been pushed [17:47] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:48] mancha: which are missing? [17:48] StevenR (n=foo@user-514d3f27.l1.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [17:48] anything less than 12.2 [17:48] antiwire: a IC and IC holder would be funny too [17:48] mancha: ah roger. :) [17:48] Desperado667 (n=Miranda@c-67-186-24-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:48] is seamonkey good? [17:48] antiwire: no improvement, any advices ? [17:49] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever."). [17:49] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [17:49] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.26.159) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:49] sucks but i still want it to not have 0-days, er 12-days (now) [17:49] paul424: I would start by removing the firefox packages and deleting the firefox specific direcvtories from your home dir [17:49] then reinstlal the ff package [17:49] does it crash repeatably on particular things? [17:50] correcaminos (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:50] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [17:50] it crashes I try to save any file from the firefox, ANY [17:51] Does this happen for all users? [17:51] correcaminos_ (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) joined ##slackware. [17:51] that sounds like a bug in the browser more than the plugins [17:51] Desperado667 (n=Miranda@c-67-186-24-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [17:51] When you say 'save' you mean right clicking the link or image and choosing Save as ? [17:51] Tell us exactly how do you cause it so we can try to reproduce [17:52] aka "downloading porn" ;) [17:52] lol [17:52] i don't want to try to reproduce untl next weekend [17:52] yeah it shows the saving box after I try to choose directory it crashes. [17:52] antiwire: yes [17:52] paul424: for any user? [17:52] even root? [17:52] all the plugins are down, except chatzilla [17:53] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:53] well that's not all then [17:53] BP{k}: porn is worth scripting for [17:53] lol jk =] [17:53] don't know must try ... [17:53] acidchild: agreed. ;) [17:53] pr0n is the single-most important thrust in web development. javascript, animated gifs, flash can all thank it for their existence [17:53] come on, porn does not need to be downloaded. [17:54] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [17:54] if it crashes at choosing a directory, do you have write permissions to that directory? (sorry, dumb question) [17:54] I think I might have fractured a rib today in the big surf [17:54] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [17:54] it's hard to misdiagnose, push on it, if the pain is unbearable, it's borked [17:55] I got rocked hardcore on a close out and it really bent my body around itself. I think my rib actually hit my hip [17:55] smokeybandit (n=cntrfeit@207-237-64-142.c3-0.80w-ubr6.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) joined ##slackware. [17:55] yeah it fscking hurts. hopefully its just a bad bruise [17:55] the obvious answer is to use xhcat instead of chatzilla :) [17:55] ima not talking, "shit that hurts", ima talking "holy fucking shit, where's the ER" [17:56] yeah not that bad, probably just bruised badly [17:56] paul424: but what happens in 2012??? [17:56] in 2012 we prepare for the lagged y2k [17:57] yes [17:57] finally, I hope something actually breaks. I was greatly disappointed by the lack luster Y2K [17:57] stock pile porn! [17:57] i still didnt' re-activate any of my plastic or bank accounts since 1/1/2000 [17:57] the net will be shutdown by the eu before 2012 [17:57] not until they can guarantee me the storm is over [17:58] yearad1million: no, the obvious answer is; use irssi. ;) [17:58] :) [17:58] it's always good to have a backup client, no matter what it is [17:59] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:59] happyslacker (n=happysla@71-20-52-214.war.clearwire-wmx.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:00] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [18:01] smokeybandit (n=cntrfeit@207-237-64-142.c3-0.80w-ubr6.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) left ##slackware. [18:01] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [18:01] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.77.71.235) left irc: "leaving" [18:01] telnet irc.freenode.net 6667 [18:01] mancha: screw it i just mv ssb.ko to ssb.ko.bak [18:01] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:01] that way Paul could be here while firefox was chashing [18:02] bad [18:02] not my computer [18:02] mrself, ok but what did my script-o-magic say, who likes ssb? [18:02] do un needed modules add bloat to a kernal or jsut take up space on your harddisk ? [18:02] even worse, then [18:02] it did say anything did [18:02] didn't* [18:02] not even b43? or was that not loaded? [18:02] nope [18:03] not loaded [18:03] i see. can't say i blame you for taking an easy way out [18:03] i mean, it's a ubuntu machine. [18:04] so it's probably some screwy setting they have going on. [18:04] they don't have rc.modules and i blacklisted ssb, so i can't think of anything else. [18:04] dunno, can't say i've had the pleasure of doing much on ubuntu [18:05] fxer (n=fxer@c80-216-143-115.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [18:05] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [18:05] okay [18:06] well even after moving ssb.ko to ssb.ko.bak it still loads on boot. [18:06] O.O [18:06] must be in the kernel instead [18:06] oh great [18:06] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102141836]" [18:06] well, it's a module [18:07] any chance it was a compiled in module? [18:07] josefig (n=JoseFig@200.56.150.49) left irc: "Leaving" [18:07] i guess making a script in rc.local to rmmod it then modprobe wl would be the next best thing ay? [18:07] would work [18:07] yearad1million: idk, it's default ubuntu kernel. [18:08] does ubuntu give you everything for a recompile? [18:08] thanks for the help folks. i barely got an answer in #ubuntu [18:08] correcaminos__ (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:09] dumb question - why can't the ssb module be loaded? does it interfere with wifi somehow? [18:09] the headers are there, but make menuconfig fails, and i'm ssh'd in fro another city [18:09] tooly (n=theo@e178160097.adsl.alicedsl.de) left ##slackware. [18:09] thrice`: yes, the proprietary broadcom driver is interfered by ssb and b43 [18:10] if the module has been compiled in and you can recompile, a script sounds ok [18:10] In the readme it says to blacklist them [18:10] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host81-151-163-7.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [18:10] a "module" can't be compiled it. it's either a module, or it's not [18:10] ./mono.SlackBuild: line 58: SLKCFLAGS: unbound variable [18:10] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [18:10] what do i do? [18:11] what is your arch set to? [18:11] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [18:11] thrice`, ARCH=x86_64 ./mono.SlackBuild [18:11] Linux don-laptop 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:04:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux [18:11] I get a ton of other automake stuff before that [18:12] ffs. ubuntu doesn't even have ncurses installed. [18:12] http://pastebin.com/m53287959 [18:14] DralaFi: is that the mono from the 13.0 repo? [18:14] BP{k}, no, it's from http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/development/mono/ [18:15] DralaFi: right .. use the one from 13.0 and try again? [18:15] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/development/mono/ [18:15] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:15] will that work for 12.2, BP{k} ? [18:15] slackware 13 didn't have 64-bit [18:15] mmmmm [18:16] 12.2 didn't ** [18:16] hey thrice`, how's it going? [18:16] DralaFi: since when has there been a 12.2 64bit... [18:16] Bigshot_ (n=KP@CPE002129abc864-CM001ac35cd4d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [18:16] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:16] if you're on slamd64 or something, try the 13.0 slackbuild anyway; your don't have the 64-bit ARCH stuff defined [18:16] thrice`, BP{k} since Slamd [18:16] fire|bird, going well, yourelf ? see seamonkey in -current? :) [18:16] thrice`: I am excellent, thanks. Yes, it's in -current, 13, and 12.2 [18:16] Bigshot_ (n=KP@CPE002129abc864-CM001ac35cd4d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware. [18:16] DralaFi: would have been nice if you told that before :P [18:17] antiwire: on root everything works normal [18:17] I could have sworn I saw a 64bit 13 for download [18:17] howdy BP{k} [18:17] yearad1million: yes there is. [18:17] BP{k}, ;P [18:17] fire|bird: howdy, how goes. :) [18:17] yearad1million, there is, I typo'd and meant 12.2 :> [18:17] so 1) delete the user fiels in ~/., then reinstall the mozilla right ? [18:17] BP{k}: goes excellent, thank you. :) [18:17] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:17] BP{k}: yourself? [18:17] was mixing "only 13 has 64-bit" and "12.2 didn't have 64-bit" [18:17] ok [18:17] antiwire: right ? [18:17] thrice`: hehe. [18:17] paul424, never delete, always mv :) [18:18] stygian (i=stygian@69.149.152.230) joined ##slackware. [18:18] fire|bird: not bad, currently on the laptop watching a movie. [18:18] BP{k}: nice, good movie? [18:18] debbie does dallas? [18:18] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-245-146.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [18:18] DralaFi: did you ammend the 12.2 slackbjuild to account for 64bit stuff? [18:18] mancha: only when kethry isn't around. ;) [18:18] Action: fire|bird runs [18:18] datalock (n=datalock@189.35.128.45) left irc: Connection timed out [18:18] fire|bird: meh, Die Hard 4.0 [18:19] ha ha, I just watched that one recently. quite "interesting" action sequences :D [18:19] is that "...with a vengeance? [18:19] BP{k}, no. but I thought I was told some time ago that all the slackbuilds on SBo were ARCH 64bit compliant if one was to specify the correct ARCH... [18:19] *sighs* [18:19] DralaFi, that's true for 13.0 [18:19] DralaFi: for those versions of slackware that support 64 bit yes. [18:20] well ok i'm compiling libgdiplus 13.0 and i'll upgradepkg it [18:20] then i'll compile mono for 13.0 and install that [18:20] mancha: nah .. probably would prefer 'The Pet' for that type of movie :P [18:22] thrice`: Now that I can stop messing with seamonkey, I've changed my desktop a bit, not much though: http://imagebin.org/71006 [18:22] hahaha, slack64 sees 30 sata links in vbox ^^ [18:24] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:24] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102141836]" [18:26] any eta on openssl packages ? [18:26] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.135) joined ##slackware. [18:27] well, the rc.local rmmod script seems to work fine. [18:27] rachael: I am guessing "when they are ready". [18:28] How would you rate ubuntu? [18:28] BP{k}: though so :) was just if I should roll my own here or there where just around the corner [18:29] on a scale of 1-10? [18:29] idk [18:29] 2 [18:29] that good huh? :) [18:30] rachael: if you want them now, you could always roll your own, give them your own tag. then when Pat releases them into the wild, they will be upgraded normally. [18:30] If I hadn't gone with slackware, I was seriously consdiering debian [18:30] 1 because unix is it's backbone and 2 because i "guess" it's ... um, userbase. [18:30] BP{k}: yep just wanted to ask, as I havnt had time to do that yet [18:31] IrquiM (n=irquim@176.80-202-41.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:31] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:31] BP{k}++ [18:31] jkwood (n=jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:31] signal11 (i=esteban@gnv.quaddro.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:31] jkwood (n=jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) joined ##slackware. [18:31] what's the difference between debian and slackware? about 27 cd-roms of download/ [18:32] yearad1million: hehe [18:32] adamk` (n=user@h-67-102-187-37.phlapafg.static.covad.net) joined ##slackware. [18:32] kethry (n=kethry@buhkit.net) joined ##slackware. [18:32] slackware and debian aren't even close to one another [18:32] and split packages! 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[18:35] mancha: haha ;p [18:35] mishehu_ (i=mishehu@cshells.shavedgoats.net) joined ##slackware. [18:35] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:35] what lawsuit? [18:35] usr13_ (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [18:35] what could sco do at this stage? [18:35] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:35] PiterPunk (n=piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:35] PiterPunk (n=piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [18:35] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-76-179-231-3.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:38] IrquiM (n=irquim@176.80-202-41.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [18:39] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [18:39] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-10-190.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:40] mrselfpwn, sco sued ibm because they said ibm incorporated some code from their unix variant it was using under license to the linux kernel [18:40] yes, i'm reading now. [18:40] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:40] I've read about that before, though thought sco lost. [18:41] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [18:41] no, M$ keeps feeding them money to continue [18:42] mrselfpwn, not every aspect of that is clear, it might or might not be true, but the legal battle took so long and sco lost so much money that it doesnt really matter because it's almost dead and cant keep up with the costs of it [18:42] anyone rember what the page was to look at old google headers? [18:43] cache.google or something? [18:43] archive.org? [18:43] sitwon_ (n=adam@pool-96-241-216-141.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:43] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:43] you can see the google images at the top of the page [18:43] Maybe it's good I kept a harddrive with bsd on it. The legal situation for that is a lot cleaner [18:44] http://www.googleguide.com/cached_pages.html [18:44] Wiren (n=aad@80.13.211.240) left irc: [18:44] Have any of you tried the puzzles on codechef ? [18:44] mrselfpwn, that is not it. [18:45] idk [18:45] how can I name the win7 virtual machine? I already used "darkstar" [18:45] there is a page you can go to that displays the old google images like this http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ZaGO7GjCqAI/RvuFofzoLqI/AAAAAAAAFOU/fNdc5E14n_M/s640/google-birthday-doodles.png [18:46] you could call it "lady of the island" [18:46] Camarade_Tux: blue dwarf? [18:46] sitwon (n=adam@pool-96-241-216-141.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:46] adamk (n=user@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:46] mishehu (i=mishehu@cshells.shavedgoats.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:46] lady of the evening [18:46] nice one BP{k} :) [18:46] the mirror image of Arnold Rimmer? [18:47] yearad1million: ewwwwwwwwwwwww [18:47] That's it, or maybe Kryton? [18:48] AceRimmer ... ;) [18:48] That fits win 7 pretty well [18:48] chasmo77 (n=chas@69.4.142.4) joined ##slackware. [18:48] I like how you don't have to "activate" windows anymore :D [18:48] you don't? [18:49] LauriX (n=Tuxa@200-55-77-230.dsl.prima.net.ar) left irc: " Más vale teclado en mano que raton caminando. ..(xchat!2.8.6)" [18:49] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: "ha oui, je me casse regarder un film" [18:50] Or maybe win 7 fits the evil Arnold Rimmer from when they split the ship into 3 versions [18:51] how do they make sure you are not stealing their software? [18:51] same wga stuff? [18:52] I see plenty of web pages saying there is an activation key needed [18:53] correcaminos (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) joined ##slackware. [18:53] key yes maybe, just not activation online after install I am guessing [18:55] If they wanted to secure thinks without being oppressive, they could have a hardware key that plugs into the usb port.the software could be used on any installed machine with some key [18:55] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:55] anyone good at graphics layout engine? (GLE) [18:55] grazymax (n=grazymax@host108-23-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:57] anyone? [18:58] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:58] correcaminos_ (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) left irc: Connection timed out [18:59] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:59] you mean like this- http://www.archive.org/index.php [18:59] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: "Leaving" [19:00] melu__ (n=melu@85.128.1.20) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:01] Camarade_Tux: you still have to activate it. you're just not prompted for it during install [19:01] I know what helps bruised ribs. beer! [19:01] ananke: actually you can go on for months without activating, at least, in beta and rc [19:02] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [19:02] and I think you can in final too [19:02] antiwire: yeah \o/ [19:02] I still have a valid and unused Vista Business license + disk [19:02] the enterprise 7 [final] we use requires activation within 3 days [19:02] I never got around to installing it [19:02] same thing for professional [19:03] Action: mrselfpwn has an unused vista ultimate license [19:03] either way, it's certainly easier than having to deal with it during the install [19:03] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:05] Action: ananke just moved from xp to 7 at home. not looking back at all, loving it [19:06] last week I heard someone saying that every education copy of xp no longer activates [19:07] awned (n=awned@adsl-71-148-125.gsp.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] well, gtg. had a question to ask on efnet [19:07] Camarade_Tux: where did you grab your copy of 7 from? [19:08] Action: thrice` is skipping another microsoft release at home, and loving it [19:08] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp121-44-249-13.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [19:08] rc, from microsoft.com [19:08] yearad1million (n=yearad1m@c-76-19-53-234.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:08] oh okay [19:08] thrice`: http://mingw-w64.sourceforge.net/ [19:08] see the website, this project has to be great ;-) [19:08] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:09] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:09] thrice`: by all means, for folks who don't need to run windows, it's business as usual. for those who do, windows 7 is a big improvement [19:09] I'll get a 2008 R2 eval thingy once I get a better downlink >< [19:09] grazymax (n=grazymax@host90-192-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [19:10] I need to disable a few things, it really doesn't enjoy visual effects :D [19:10] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [19:11] Camarade_Tux: I'm guessing you got RC a while back it's no longer still available correct? [19:12] yup [19:12] Nick change: aiiiiiii -> yunix [19:12] but you can get 2008 server R2 something blablabla [19:12] Nick change: yunix -> yunix|off [19:12] ok [19:13] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [19:13] I love how the "solitaire" needs 3D hardware support :) [19:14] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host81-151-163-7.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:14] \o/ [19:14] lol [19:14] "explorer has stopped working" \o/ [19:15] ananke, what's so great about it? [19:16] he, I found win7's ui pretty nice but as soon as I made it look like win9x's, I got really relieved :) [19:16] much better :) [19:17] nix_chix0r (n=jesse@71-35-80-5.stcd.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [19:17] nachox: i installed it on two machines: dell inspiron 530s [my home workstation], and dell studio15 [a laptop i got for a family member] [19:17] meep [19:17] nachox: in case of my 530s, i didn't have to install a single driver manually. that includes usb camera, etc [19:18] I have a problem with graphics, it's too slow, windows's troubleshoot utility tells me to get a driver for my card but it won't tell me where to disable the visual crap ='( [19:18] that is interesting [19:18] nix_chix0r: meep meep [19:18] i'm on ubuntu:( i brought my laptop but forgot the charger [19:18] diaper bags tend to have priority [19:18] nix_chix0r how do you forget a charger? [19:18] o very well :D [19:18] nachox: very happy about it. video/nic/chipset/etc drivers all installed. couple of them came with windows update. [19:18] \o/ found it \o/ [19:18] i was being a space cadet and rushing out the house [19:19] nix_chix0r: nah, the charger :) [19:19] ananke, and? what about speed? ease of use? battery life? [19:19] nachox: overall, the process was painless. i had to answer about 3 questions and it got installed [19:19] at least i am using irssi :P [19:19] yeah, overall it's pretty good [19:19] nix_chix0r: ;-) [19:19] ananke, ubuntu like [19:19] nah, ubuntu's bad [19:19] nachox: the workstation seems faster, but i am comparing it to a two year old installation of xp, so it's not a fair comparison. however, it's very snappy [19:20] nix_chix0r: ever used irssi+screen+ssh? [19:20] yeah [19:20] just found a link to windows 7 ultimate on an amazon.com server [19:20] ananke: yeah, it is, not only because of the hardware [19:20] i must say, I used w7 also [19:20] nachox: laptop's battery life is also something i can't comment on. as soon as i unboxed the laptop, i put 7 on it [19:20] i have quite a few shell accounts as well [19:20] ananke, my brother told me it's much faster than vista, but i havent tried it myself [19:20] and it is really a very nice OS [19:20] it's very slow though [19:20] awned (n=awned@adsl-71-148-125.gsp.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [19:21] nachox: definitely it's faster than vista [i tried it in the past on that workstation, it came with it] [19:21] Windows 7 runs well on my notebook [19:21] correcaminos__ (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) left irc: Connection timed out [19:21] mrselfpwn: lol :P [19:21] ;) [19:22] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [19:22] if you have newer hardware, and you run xp or vista, i honestly would recommend 7 [19:22] ananke, i'll have to try it at some point, btw, install the new microsoft AV when you have time [19:22] nachox: it's actually a good AV solution? [19:22] Action: mrselfpwn uses kaspersky. [19:22] nix_chix0r (n=jesse@71-35-80-5.stcd.qwest.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:22] not tthe worst [19:23] heck, installing a printer was a breeze too. it crawled my network, saw hp lj2100, and installed the drivers. no need to dork around with creating a tcp port [19:23] ananke: but some settings are miles deep in panels though [19:23] sometimes it feels like a maze [19:23] nachox: i'll try it, although we have a site license for norton av [i wouldn't mind changing it] [19:23] great. okay. #slackware is now closed and we will all be on windows 7 and in #windows if you need us. [19:23] Camarade_Tux: yep, took me a few minutes to get myself familiarized [19:24] mrselfpwn, i ha more luck with it than with mcafee [19:24] ahh [19:24] kaspersky for me. one of the best along side nod32 though kaspersky has a superior firewall [19:24] mrselfpwn: certainly beats the teenage drama that often takes place here [19:24] ananke: /agreed [19:25] I have a headless/X-less server with vbox on it (through rdp), think I can get 3D support inside the guest? [19:25] on that note, what features do you consider essential for kaspersky to have a superior firewall? [19:25] I don't even know why I'm asking, I know I won't >< [19:26] kaspersky was nice for detection [19:26] i rmemebrr running norton and it couldnt find a virus i had on disk for 3m onths after kaspersky had already found it [19:26] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:231) joined ##slackware. [19:26] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) joined ##slackware. [19:26] norton got pretty bad [19:27] yeah really bad [19:27] chryslers copy of norotn and there key [19:27] yep. with version 10 or 11, it started getting better, but it's still subpar [19:27] was surpried it took that long for them to finaly find the virus [19:28] Scuzz: the broken grammar in that sentence didn't make it easy to parse :) [19:28] i was using * [19:28] sorry baout that [19:28] add kicked in [19:28] A.D.D [19:28] i still have no clue what that meant :) [19:29] i was using a copy of norton i got from crhysler corp [19:29] ohh. "chrysler's copy of norton and their key" [19:29] ananke, i did an in depth scour through many reviews and test that others performed with real world type penetration testing [19:29] they tested all the firewalls from free to commercial [19:30] the only virus scanner I ever saw do me any good in windowland was avast! [19:30] the free comodo was actually the best detecting all attack attempts. kaspersky came in third or fourth maybe [19:30] in ref: to the past [19:31] mrselfpwn: and what made kaspersky the winner? i'm honestly curious, it seems the built-in firewall works as advertized [19:31] and nod32's firewall floundered at the bottom somewhere [19:31] nod32's good [19:31] mrselfpwn: i see, so the selling point is IDS and not just firewall [19:31] firewall, dunno [19:31] the virus scanner is good on nod32 yes. probably the best [19:31] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.73.15) joined ##slackware. [19:32] nod and kaspersky are my favorites [19:32] the only place kaspersky fell behind nod32 was rootkit detection at 95% while nod was at 98% [19:32] although i havnt used either in a few years [19:32] ananke: correct [19:32] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:33] the mouth of the just shall mediate wisdom [19:33] this was 2008 test iirc [19:34] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:34] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:35] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:35] nod32 does have a faster scan time than any other considerbly [19:35] is there any benefit to removing un needed modules from the kernal , as in performance wise ? [19:35] considerably* [19:35] Scuzz: no [19:36] and it's 'kernel' :) [19:36] lol thanx [19:36] considering they're 'modules' you're not saving anything other than disk space [19:36] i see [19:36] maybe a little boot ime [19:37] time [19:37] indeed, if those drivers were in fact being loaded [19:37] like for example I don't use firewire so i remove it from my kernel. [19:37] what about drivers built into the kernal ? [19:38] 'kernel' [19:38] correcaminos_ (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) joined ##slackware. [19:38] i removed a wack of stuff [19:38] lol [19:38] um okay [19:38] sorry again [19:38] a wack of stuff. sounds like you have this under control then. [19:38] no not realy [19:38] im jsut glad it booted [19:38] jsut stuff that made sense to me [19:38] ^>^ [19:39] no real advantage, I like to do it because it's easier to see what's going on [19:39] and I change a few options at the same time [19:39] yes, that too. [19:39] less errors and warnings. [19:40] jar_corefile (n=jar_core@nmd.sbx08970.madiswi.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [19:40] reminds me I have to remove ata support from my kernel :) [19:41] nabucho stopped [19:41] crap [19:42] I don't know how to plug a power cord... [19:43] ("nabucho" is my new computer's name and I was seriously worried it already failed) [19:43] speaking of which [19:43] i get this on shutdown; kernel: ERROR!!! RTMPCancelTimer failed, Timer hasn't been initialize! [19:44] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:44] john_dee (n=id@95-29-11-151.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [19:44] seems to be related to my wifi card [19:45] rt2860? [19:45] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-201-28.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:45] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:46] yes [19:47] arielg (n=ari@host41.190-139-163.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:48] arielg (n=ari@host41.190-139-163.telecom.net.ar) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [19:48] rt2760 actually [19:48] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.74.125) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:48] i think it can be safely ignored though. [19:49] v4nelle (n=van@adsl21-114.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:50] staging driver afaict, not completely unexpected =/ [19:50] yes, that's what I was thinking. [19:51] don't like errors, but I guess I can live with that "one" [19:51] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [19:54] it's a 2760, though uses the 2860 kernel driver [19:56] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [19:57] correcaminos (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:57] chasmo77 (n=chas@69.4.142.4) left irc: "Leaving" [19:59] yht (n=Administ@118.96.121.225) joined ##slackware. [20:00] Camarade_Tux: Do you know if KVM supports 3d acceleration? [20:00] yht (n=Administ@118.96.121.225) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:00] yht (n=Administ@118.96.121.225) joined ##slackware. [20:01] for windows guest [20:01] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-94-42-19-249.multimo.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [20:01] correcaminos__ (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) joined ##slackware. [20:02] no idea [20:02] what I know is that qemu doesn't play very well with windows guests [20:02] ah [20:02] don't know how kvm changes that (and if it does) [20:03] right [20:03] well, from benchmarks i've seen that kvm is much faster than qemu [20:03] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [20:03] (by itself) [20:03] and I'll need both windows and other OSes virtualized at the same time so I'll maybe use Xen, I read it handled windows guests well [20:03] mrselfpwn: depends if you use qemu or qemu+kqemu [20:04] hmm, i'll have to look into that. [20:04] qemu could emulate a 128bit big-endian architecture with weird ops on a 16bit little-endian arch [20:05] that's why it's slow [20:05] i understand [20:10] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [20:11] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [20:15] fxer (n=fxer@c80-216-143-115.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:17] correcaminos_ (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:20] correcaminos__ (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) left irc: "Leaving" [20:22] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [20:25] hi folks i am configuring couchdb, i need run this: adduser --system --home /usr/local/var/lib/couchdb --no-create-home \ [20:25] --shell /bin/bash --group --gecos "CouchDB Administrator" couchdb [20:26] but the adduser ask me for home and groups [20:26] in the command the params given solve this, i want to know how i can fix the command to works [20:26] and also i dont get man for adduser [20:28] man useradd [20:28] ovnicraft, adduser it a prompt-driven system, useradd takes the arguments [20:28] what's adobe gonna do bout flash [20:28] is a * [20:28] when html 5 video fucks it up the ass [20:28] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:29] jeev: pass the buck [20:30] or in this case pass the ass [20:30] Actually, I'll be very happy if that happens. Getting flash 10 to behave for me has been a nightmare. Trying to watch any YT crashes my browser. [20:31] pass the ass, and your mind is shallow. [20:31] my mind is bored. there is a difference [20:33] Action: caoliver apologizes for the lame pfunk joke. [20:33] ah, hehe [20:34] Hunger strikes. Gotta figure something to do with noodles and broccoli. [20:35] cook them is usually a good idea [20:36] they taste crap uncooked [20:37] http://www.freakingnews.com/Bill-Gates-in-Jail-Pics-36176.asp [20:37] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [20:38] http://www.mugshots.org/misc/bill-gates.html [20:40] jeev, i don't think html5 video is going to damage flash. The internet runs on flash right now. [20:41] hiptobecubic^, advertisers and shit will change to html5, no? [20:41] guarantees of supported browsers [20:41] unless if IE doesn't support it [20:41] hiptobecubic^: it will if it's easy to check you can display html5's video [20:42] Camarade_Tux, perhaps [20:42] dorin (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:43] hiptobecubic^: some video streaming website use html5 with ff 3.5 on windows [20:43] (maybe on more than that but I'm not sure) [20:43] But it's often quite hard to get companies to abandon 'working' software in favor of standards [20:44] I believe it's easier, more reliable and less expensive than streaming through flash [20:44] I mean, from the companies' pov [20:44] hm .. [20:45] to get synaptic touchpad working on slack13 i need to ` cp /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/11-x11-synaptics.fdi /etc/hal/fdi/policy/` ?? [20:46] but does the ogg html5 less or more in bandwidth, size [20:46] errordeveloper, not sure what touchpad i have on my lenovo but i didn't have to touch anything [20:46] it worked. [20:47] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:47] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:49] errordeveloper: yeah, *and* edit it ;-) [20:49] morning [20:49] errordeveloper: and you'll have to quit X and /etc/rc.d/rc.hald restart, then start X again (a reboot works too when in doubt) [20:49] frullet_: hi :) [20:50] jeev: yeah, that's an actual question [20:50] and that's a reason google didn't want to use theora for