[00:00] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [00:00] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:00] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:01] I had a strange problem with eth0 connection today. When I booted into vista, the connection was fine, however in slack, dhcpcd consistently timed out and could not establish a connection. What could cause this? [00:01] arp issues possibly [00:01] ercula (~ercula@97-116-184-251.mpls.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:02] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [00:02] Dominian: arp? [00:03] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [00:03] Do you have a switch that tracks mac addresses etc? [00:03] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.37.140) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [00:03] no, the office is hardwired for ethernet on the university network. [00:06] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Quit: /etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start [00:07] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:08] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:08] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:09] any idea how to troubleshoot this? [00:09] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:10] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [00:11] jbwk (~jbwk@77.12.89.149) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:12] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:15] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:16] jbwk (~jbwk@brln-4d0c4534.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [00:17] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.227.235.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [00:20] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [00:20] dngr (~dngr@n11649134009.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [00:22] jeremym (~jeremym@pool-70-105-104-149.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:22] blarg (~jeremym@pool-70-105-75-2.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:22] blarg (~jeremym@pool-70-105-75-2.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:22] Jeremym (~jeremym@pool-70-105-75-2.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:24] cryptic0: possibly need to modify /etc/resolv.conf ? [00:25] dns settings possibly [00:25] er, well if it times out [00:25] stinky: my resolv.conf has only one nameserver listed in it right now (my home router ip) [00:26] what is the diff bet dhcpcd and dhclient? [00:26] should be the school router ip [00:26] just a different way to the end result [00:26] try dhclient if you want [00:27] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[00:32] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.227.235.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:33] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:33] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [00:35] stinky: 13.0 [00:35] problem is only at work. At home, dhcpcd eth0 works fine. [00:35] Dominian: should yes [00:36] you tried dhclient? [00:37] are you there now where you have the problem? what is the deal [00:37] stinky: no, I will tomorrow. [00:38] okay [00:38] problem is, the office I am working at is a low priority area in the university, so they haven't set up wireless. wireless works perfectly otherwise. [00:41] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [00:41] if dhclient doesn't work, is there anything else I can do to troubleshoot this? [00:42] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:44] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [00:44] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [00:45] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@168-103-63-219.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:46] i guess have a look at your route command [00:47] upgrade to 13.1? [00:50] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [00:50] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:50] keanne (~riken@124.106.44.140) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [00:51] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [00:51] s3r[] (~s3r3n1ty@190.213.44.77) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:52] why would scp across a lan only be going at 700KB/s [00:53] stinky: with all due respect, a problematic eth0 isn't enough motivation to upgrade :). [00:53] stinky: what do you mean by route command? [00:53] Cann0n: wired or wireless? [00:53] keanne (~riken@124.106.44.140) joined ##slackware. [00:54] wifi [00:54] cryptic0: with all due respect i see no reason not to upgrade [00:54] cryptic0: man route [00:54] stinky: time is the only deterrent. grad school is tough on time [00:55] wharncliffe (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:55] Cann0n: I never transfer large chunks of data over wireless, if possible. [00:55] even with wired connection, Idon't get more than 7mbps [00:56] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:56] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [00:58] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [00:58] scp is so convient [00:59] I agree, scp works also over wired ;) [00:59] i don't want to set up ftp [00:59] mainly since the computer i'm copying from has a busted LCD [01:00] and the powercord is so loose + the battery doesnt work, typing will cause it to die [01:00] which is why it has a busted LCD screen in the frist place [01:01] jeremym (~jeremym@pool-68-238-11-158.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:01] adfafd (~jeremym@pool-70-104-108-211.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:02] Nick change: adfafd -> jeremym [01:02] jeremym (~jeremym@pool-70-104-108-211.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:02] jeremym (~jeremym@pool-70-104-108-211.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:02] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:02] ercula (~ercula@97-116-184-251.mpls.qwest.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [01:02] how much data are you transferring? [01:02] Cann0n: i usually use rsync [01:03] i should have, but last week, scp was the best option [01:03] according to the irc chans i asked in [01:03] that or ssh + cp which is the same thing [01:05] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8D203.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [01:05] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [01:08] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:09] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:12] RJz0r (~ham@216-189-164-080-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [01:17] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:17] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:18] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [01:21] RJz0r (~ham@216-189-164-080-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net) joined ##slackware. [01:26] dieter- (~dieter@84-23-67-251.blue.kundencontroller.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:28] dieter- (~dieter@84-23-67-251.blue.kundencontroller.de) joined ##slackware. [01:33] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:33] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:33] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [01:34] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [01:36] keanne (~riken@124.106.44.140) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:41] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-18-36.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:41] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [01:42] How can I include a firmware file in initrd? [01:42] mkinitrd has no options for files to include. [01:43] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:44] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [01:45] I should mount initrd. [01:46] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:47] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [01:47] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.196) joined ##slackware. [01:48] i am trying to play this wmv video in mplayer, i get this error 'Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: G2M.dll' Any ideas how to resolve this? [01:49] crocket: copy it to the initrd tree manually and then re-run mkinitrd with no arguments [01:49] no argumets? [01:49] correct [01:50] (assuming you have already run mkinitrd *with* the desired arguments) [01:50] i googled around a bit, saw somewhere that one can download the codec from gotomeeting website. Did that, installed it on wine and copied the G2M.dll to /usr/lib/codecs folder.. still to no avail... mplayer crashes :-( [01:50] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:51] jbwk (~jbwk@brln-4d0c4534.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:52] njathan, does mplayer segfault? [01:53] rworkman, I don't know where in /boot/initrd-tree I should add the firmware if dmesg says "[ 4.227541] platform radeon_cp.0: firmware: requesting radeon/RS600_cp.bin". [01:53] It's not an absolute path. [01:54] radeon could try to find it anywhere. [01:54] MLanden, here -> http://pastebin.com/t0Eqj2dD [01:54] rworkman, any reason 13.1 used udev 153? [01:54] MLanden, the first case is when i had G2M.dll copied from wine, and he second is when i removed it [01:55] MLanden, and it doesn't seemt o segfault [01:58] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:00] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:02] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:02] njathan, ok...trying a sample file...hold tight [02:02] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [02:02] can someone on 13.1 pastebin the contents of /etc/udev/rules.d and /lib/udev/rules.d ? :) [02:02] Hmm.. when I try to run two X server simultaneously and I switch to display 0 and then back to display 1, it just shows a blank screen even though the server is still running cause it plays the sounds from a video [02:03] crocket: mkdir /boot/initrd-tree/lib/firmware/radeon/ ; cp /lib/firmware/radeon/RS600_cp.bin /boot/initrd-tree/lib/firmware/radeon [02:03] Anybody else had similar issues? [02:03] mancha: it worked :) [02:03] njathan, any errors with the audio? [02:03] echo "/etc"; ls /etc/udev/rules.d; echo "lib"; ls /lib/udev/rules.d > pastebin :) [02:03] rworkman, indeed! [02:03] rworkman : I thought it was /boot/initrd-tree/lib/modules/2.6.34/xxxx... [02:03] mancha: Nothing should be in /etc/udev/rules.d other than two persistent rules files [02:04] (or perhaps other third-party packages installed stuff there) [02:04] crocket: no; trust me :) [02:04] yeah i am concerned with the 3rd party stuff. my new adventure is upgrading udev. last time i did that the KB and mousedidn't work in X [02:04] zerafuze (~zerafuze@CPE00222d5ceeab-CM00222d5ceea7.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: zerafuze [02:04] rworkman : OK since the firmware is there also in the root filesystem, why not? [02:05] rworkman, can you think of any common pitfall upgrading udev that would kill my mouse/kb in X? kb worked fine in console [02:05] crocket: eh? Where is the firmware on the real system? [02:05] rworkman : /lib/firmware/radeon [02:06] mancha: depends on how long ago it was. Probably libudev bumped the shared library version and hal needed rebuilt. [02:06] crocket: exactly as I thought; hence the place I told you to put it inside the initrd [02:06] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-75-109.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Deuces. [02:06] my old udev has libvolume_id.so.0.82.0; the new udev's don't even have that [02:07] bingo [02:07] aha, so rebuild udev, install, rebuild hal? [02:07] You're looking at upgrading e2fsprogs as well; I don't recall all of that, but there was a lot of churn in those days [02:07] MLanden, with no G2M.dll, there aren't any errors for audio [02:07] hrmmm. [02:07] blkid and something else moved from e2fsprogs to udev [02:08] rworkman, Should I run lilo after updating initrd? [02:08] MLanden, i can hear the audio clearly [02:08] so this is *not* a simple upgrade (udev) [02:08] These are the things that your distro maintainers figure out :) [02:08] no [02:08] crocket: yes [02:08] rworkman : why? The initrd filename is the same as before. [02:08] crocket: you regenerated it, so it's (likely) not in the same disk sectors as before. [02:09] ok, well now i need to figure it out :) because i wanna play with your new X but I don't want to change an entire system for it [02:09] rworkman, You can be correct only if initrd is installed into /dev/sda with LILO. [02:09] Or something else? [02:09] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:09] huh? [02:09] rworkman : how does LILO recognize initrd? [02:09] njathan, same here...could try with mplayer svn build.placing the dll file with it and see if it hooks...tried looking in vlc dox(no go)...looks like mplayer may be the only one at this time [02:10] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [02:10] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [02:10] crocket: the lilo bootloader loads the initrd image and kernel image from raw disk sectors essentially; running /sbin/lilo on the system simply tells it where to look. When you regen the initrd, those sectors can (often do) change [02:11] Just run lilo again and be done with it :) [02:11] mancha: you're probably looking at more work than just upgrading to 13.1 :) [02:11] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [02:11] njathan, looking in http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/codecs-status.html shows the g2m2 and g2m3 codecs is in support [02:12] rworkman : What kind of filesystem does initrd use? [02:12] rworkman you don't understand how much work went in to customizing this particular system. there's no way upgrading to 13.1 is less work than figuring out udev [02:12] I want to mount it onto my root filesystem using mount. [02:12] it can't be that bad! :) [02:12] mancha: okay, have fun :) [02:12] MLanden, yeah i saw that in the codec-status page... sadly there isn't more info on how to get it working [02:13] procyonlabs (~randy@pool-173-69-175-97.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:13] crocket: I don't understand. [02:13] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:13] rworkman : the reason for doing it? [02:13] crocket, there is /boot/initrd-tree, which contains the initrd contents before they went it. [02:13] s/it./in./ [02:13] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:13] slava_dp : It's just fun to mount initrd. [02:13] for fun [02:13] you're absolutely right though, hal was linked against the old udev (d'oh moment) [02:14] the e2fs stuff is not worrying me as it'll stay unlinked - no biggie [02:14] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:14] It's a gzipped cpio archive. You extract it into a directory, but don't bother - it's already at /boot/initrd-tree/ [02:14] cpio [02:14] If you want to play in it as if it were /, then "chroot /boot/initrd-tree /bin/sh -l" [02:14] It's just an archive. [02:14] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [02:14] afk - baby feeding time. [02:15] CPIO archives often don't have extension names. [02:15] njathan, what's the file extension of what you're trying to playback..wmv? [02:15] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:15] MLanden, yes it is wmv [02:17] procyonlabs (~randy@pool-173-69-175-97.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: I'm outta heeere... [02:18] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:19] njathan, trying to see if mplayer will let me play it as a raw video [02:21] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:21] procyonlabs (~randy@pool-173-69-175-97.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:22] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:24] ok, let's give this a shot... [02:24] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:25] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [02:28] njathan, no dice [02:28] MLanden, :-( [02:28] maybe converting it to another format is the way out... [02:29] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [02:29] hi [02:29] Putting RS600_cp.bin in /boot/initrd-tree/lib/firmware/radeon doesn't make radeon.ko find it. [02:30] I think radeon.ko finds it somewhere else. [02:31] Don't know where it could be. [02:32] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:32] njathan, looks like it..good luck,might be another workaround...place the dll file back in /usr/lib/codecs and see if anything using xine-lib can hook into it..might be worth a shot [02:35] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [02:35] hey rwork, when you pop back in lemme know :) [02:36] MLanden, xine still says 'G2M3 codec not available', even after putting the file - G2M.dll - in /usr/lib/codecs [02:36] ouch* [02:37] rworkman: radeon.ko failed to load RS600_cp.bin in lib/firmware/radeon. [02:39] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@77.49.25.197.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:39] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-4.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:40] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [02:40] rebooting [02:40] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [02:41] fire|bird (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [02:41] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [02:42] fire|bird (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:42] can someone on 13.1 do: grep libblkid /var/log/packages/* for me? [02:42] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:42] tuvok302Lappy (tuvok302@clgrtnt7-port-178.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [02:43] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [02:44] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:44] pnq (asdf@ACA2ACAB.ipt.aol.com) left irc: Quit: sleep [02:45] never mind, figured it out. [02:53] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:58] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [02:59] Do you guys know where radeon/RS600_cp.bin firmware must be put in /boot/initrd-tree? [03:00] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4419, sources date: 20100519, built on: 2010-06-04 01:07:21 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [03:00] crocket: I've already told you. [03:01] /boot/initrd-tree/lib/firmware/radeon is not looked for obviously. [03:01] Of course it isn't. [03:01] /lib/firmware/radeon is htough [03:01] ? [03:02] Did you rebuild the initrd *after* putting the firmware in there? [03:02] and then run lilo again? [03:02] yes [03:02] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [03:02] I even removed /boot/initrd-2.6.34.gz and rebuilt it. [03:02] Okay, then it should work. [03:02] In practice, it doesn't. [03:02] ls /boot/initrd-tree/lib/firmware/radeon [03:03] hmm? [03:03] Do that. [03:03] and show me the output. [03:03] RS600_cp.bin [03:03] This is the output [03:04] How are you building the initrd? [03:04] I even copied RS600_cp.bin where radeon.ko is. [03:04] hmm [03:04] mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd-2.6.34.gz [03:04] -c -k -m are not needed since it was done before. [03:05] Maybe I should start from scratch. [03:06] gzip -dc /boot/initrd-2.6.34.gz | cpio -t | grep RS600 [03:06] all right. [03:07] solar_sea (~solar@85.14.14.82) joined ##slackware. [03:07] Show me. [03:08] rworkman : I just built another .gz from scratch. [03:08] rwork, quick pm? [03:08] grazymax (~grazymax@host152-192-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:08] lib/firmware/radeon/RS600_cp.bin [03:08] 9804 blocks [03:09] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:09] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [03:09] mancha: sure [03:09] rworkman: I just pasted the result. [03:09] crocket: okay, that's a good sign. [03:09] I ran lilo agian [03:09] So what happens when you boot? [03:09] again [03:10] I have to reboot again [03:10] ha [03:10] rebooting. [03:10] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [03:10] You can also edit the ... [03:12] Agris (~agris@80.232.193.2) joined ##slackware. [03:13] necrogami (~necrogami@unaffiliated/necrogami) joined ##slackware. [03:13] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:20] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:23] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [03:24] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [03:24] hi [03:24] rworkman: It didn't work. [03:24] radeon.ko tried to load the module for a minute and during that, a black screen appeared. [03:24] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-4.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:24] I had to see the black screen for a minute. [03:25] Plus, KMS in initrd isn't loaded as early as when it is compiled into a kernel. [03:27] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:28] slackytude (~slacky@g227067117.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:30] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-116-151.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:30] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [03:32] I'm giving in to the idea that I should compile radeon into the kernel. [03:32] Okay, so then probably some other stuff is missing. [03:32] With intel, here's what I need: MODULE_LIST="ext4:intel_agp:drm:i915" [03:33] i.e. you need any other modules that radeon uses [03:33] rworkman: Dependent modules were put in together when I invoked mkinitrd. [03:34] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:34] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-116-151.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:34] rworkman: ext4 is compiled into the kernel. [03:35] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [03:36] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:36] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.59.38) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:38] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:38] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [03:40] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [03:40] crocket: not if they're only softdeps [03:40] softdeps? [03:40] i.e. if i915 can work without drm, then it will go in without drm [03:41] rworkman : Should I compile drm into the kernel? [03:41] or add it to the module list in the initrd [03:41] If you're building a custom kernel anyway, then just build it all in. [03:41] I've been building a custom kernel. [03:41] (since you don't care about whether a generic kernel is going to work or not) [03:42] ? [03:42] i.e. when *I* build 2.6.34, I'll build it as it would (theoretically) be shipped by Slackware, but you don't have that concern. [03:42] The concept of a generic kernel is not very clear. [03:42] Then just build what you need into the kernel and forget an initrd [03:47] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.196) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:47] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:48] that's right. initrd is only useful for luks/lvm ;) [03:49] and ext4. [03:49] only for luks, even. lvm and raid can be built-in. [03:49] why for ext4? [03:49] no, ext4 also goes in. [03:49] filesystem support should alwaysa be compiled in [03:49] slackware's generic kernel doesn't have ext4 built-in. [03:49] there's no good reason to use an initrd unless you're doing something nonsensical like encrypting system stuff [03:50] crocket, we're talking custom kernels. [03:50] mancha : Well. I want to compile radeon apart from the kernel. [03:50] so what? [03:50] how does that have anything to do with an initrd? [03:50] If I compile radeon into the kernel, then I would have to recompile the kernel each time I recompile radeon. [03:51] This is why I didn't compile radeon into kernel. [03:51] that's bs. [03:51] Kyril (~carl@bas3-sherbrooke40-1177645520.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:51] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [03:51] radeon-kernelmodule and radeon-Xdriver are two separate things [03:52] just build radeon-the module inside and be done with the initrd. [03:52] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.170.31.14) joined ##slackware. [03:56] johndee (~id@93-81-69-169.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:57] ok, well i fucked something up....i keep getting "No such file or directory" errors [03:58] Sounds like arch errors :/ [03:58] updated 64-bits on 32-bits? [03:58] nope, no arch error, all i did was u./g udev, d/g udev and boom [03:59] What's the exact errors? [03:59] Does mkinitrd load hotplug? [03:59] can't write [03:59] if i try to touch a file i get: touch: cannot touch `here': No such file or directory [03:59] eww [04:00] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:00] i can make a dir though :) [04:00] i can also vi a file and save it (create). [04:01] oh wow, it is fixed now. [04:01] That makes no sense [04:01] i know! [04:02] the error started with a wget... [04:03] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:03] rwork, somehow the netowrk problems put the box into disarray [04:03] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [04:03] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [04:05] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:05] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:05] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. 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[04:32] [yop] (~yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [04:33] first check is your computer is plugged in. then make sure if your mouse and keyboard are plugged in as well. then turn on the computer [04:33] Have you tried turning it off then on again? :P [04:33] LSD : yes [04:34] is this a full installation? [04:34] sahko : my keyboard and mouse in slackware 13.1 64 work well [04:34] sahko : yes [04:34] the same devices? [04:34] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [04:34] yes [04:36] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [04:37] are you using some kind of emulation software eg. virtualbox? [04:37] no,it's clean installation [04:38] sorry no idea, that sounds very weird. 64 & 32bit should make no difference [04:38] gtg [04:38] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:38] ariarat (ariarat@unaffiliated/ariarat) left ##slackware. 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[04:51] Hi, i am new to slackware, can anyone tell me how to know packages dependencies manually? [04:52] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-64.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [04:52] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [04:52] bardo_: when you get something thats not in slack.. it should tell you what it dhepends on [04:52] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:53] bardo_: if you have a pre-compiled binary and you want to know what it depends on you can use ldd to ask it what its shared library dependencies are [04:53] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [04:53] thanks [04:54] Zordrak: when you say pre-compile, do you mean tgz file? [04:55] and what if i have the source code? [04:55] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:55] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [04:55] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:56] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [04:56] bardo_, see slackbuilds.org [04:56] also, sbopkg is a tool to use with it [04:57] slackytude (~slacky@studpool-wlan167.fbi.h-da.de) joined ##slackware. [04:59] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:59] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [05:02] dumped_B (~dumped@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [05:02] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:02] Nick change: dumped_B -> oxiredo_ro [05:03] raymondmendoza (~raymondme@cpe-67-246-67-240.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:03] hy :) [05:03] Zozma_ (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:04] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426796.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [05:05] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [05:05] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426796.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:06] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:06] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-75-109.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Deuces. [05:06] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [05:07] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [05:07] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-75-109.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:07] omg. Windows Update stopped working.. check online for a solution...... Solution: Your computer may be missing critical updates. Go to Windows Update and install them then try again. [05:08] Azeotrope (1000@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [05:09] Did someone had problems with Google Earth on 13.1? I get some missing libs. ./googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libz.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [05:10] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:11] raymondmendoza (~raymondme@cpe-67-246-67-240.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Get MacIrssi - http://www.sysctl.co.uk/projects/macirssi/ [05:11] Azeotrope, maybe u need to upgrade...? [05:11] install zlib [05:11] slava_dp: zlib is in aaa_elflibs.. [05:11] and also a package [05:12] Azeotrope, u are from Ro? [05:13] oxiredo_ro: yea [05:13] slava_dp: ghc and zlib it seems [05:13] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:13] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [05:14] ghc? the gnu hadrone collider? [05:14] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [05:14] The Glasgow Haskell Compiler [05:14] phew [05:14] it's a dep for zblib according to slackbuilds [05:14] wtf do you need a haskell compiler for google chrome? lol [05:15] 0_0 [05:15] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:15] zblib?? [05:15] Google Earth [05:15] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [05:15] AppDeb (AppDeb@77.49.34.153.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [05:15] and I do not need it for that [05:15] Action: slava_dp goes back to work [05:19] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:19] v4nelle (~van@79.107.231.98) joined ##slackware. [05:20] bardo_ (~bardo@95.69.1.245) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:20] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. 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[05:32] raymondmendoza (~raymondme@cpe-67-246-67-240.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:33] no I dont. but I got it to work now [05:33] it has good previewing/streaming abilities via the interface, letting you watch partially downloaded torrents.. or if there are enough seeders.. watching them like a stream [05:34] raymondmendoza (~raymondme@cpe-67-246-67-240.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [05:35] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [05:35] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:35] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:35] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [05:36] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@81.30.177.243.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:36] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) joined ##slackware. [05:36] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [05:36] i have problems with my pppoe connection two days [05:36] :( [05:37] on the installation i choose static IP and i write correct my internet information.. [05:37] i have problem on pppoe-connect :( [05:37] Is the missing firmware error in initrd related to firmware hotplug? [05:37] on 13.1 and 13.0 before 3 months i don't have any problems [05:37] I heard mkinitrd may not handle firmware hotplug well and cause a problem. [05:37] this problem is my mistake please help to find my mistake [05:38] i select 0 for not firewall now [05:38] when i'm trying [05:39] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-152-85.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:41] Aidar-Nagato (admin@81.30.177.243.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. [05:42] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@81.30.177.243.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:42] gogie (~toytoy@unaffiliated/gogie) joined ##slackware. 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[05:56] by hand [05:56] I wish it be done automatically [05:56] Done by hand, it goes wrong. [05:57] Should I add -u option when I invoke mrinitrd if I want firmwares to be loaded? [05:58] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:00] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:00] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [06:01] crocket: what situation would require you to add firmware to an initrd? [06:02] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:02] gogie (~toytoy@unaffiliated/gogie) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:02] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [06:02] All the initrd need to do is make your root device available to Slackware's init process [06:02] alienBOB : radeon requires RS600_cp.bin in /lib/firmware/radeon in initrd. [06:02] hmm [06:02] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [06:02] I want early KMS appearance by inclusion of radeon in initrd. [06:03] Like slava_dp said - in such cases, you need to add that functionality manually [06:03] I added it in /boot/initrd-tree/lib/firmware/radeon, but with no avail. [06:03] You will also have to add the radeon driver and possibly more [06:03] udev? [06:03] i didn't add udev so far [06:04] Udev is in the initrd [06:04] mkinitrd has an option -u. [06:04] Yes [06:04] I didn't specify it until now. [06:05] Users of other linux distros reported the same problem. [06:05] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:05] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [06:06] crocket: udev is used by the initrd only to create block device nodes. Not to load graphics drivers [06:06] You will have to edit the init script to make it load the radeon driver [06:06] alienBOB : Is firmware hotplug related to the missing firmware? [06:07] do you mean /sbin/mkinitrd? [06:07] No, the /boot/initrd-tree/init [06:08] This is the dmesg output ---> http://www.pastebin.org/321037 [06:08] Look for "firmware". [06:08] radeon_cp: Failed to load firmware "radeon/RS600_cp.bin" [06:09] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-152-85.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [06:10] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:13] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:13] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [06:14] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:15] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [06:16] alienBOB : It has no problem in loading radeon and its dependencies. [06:17] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:17] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [06:21] Maybe I should inspect the source code for bugs [06:22] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:23] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [06:23] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [06:25] i_is_cat (~i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [06:26] what i am doing wrong : i try to install aaa_elflibs-13.1-x86_64-1 [06:27] why are you doing that? [06:27] but i get "No packages match the pattern for install. Try...." [06:27] trying to install slackware on an intel macbook but i want to leave the mac osx intac, ive shrunk the partition down but the whole drive seems wrapped in gpt so slackware installer cant see the new partitions [06:27] any suggestions? [06:27] aaa_elflibs is blacklisted. [06:27] I guess I'm going to put some debug code in radeon_cp.c and compile the kernel again. [06:27] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:27] i removet the old 13.0 and tries to install taht [06:28] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [06:28] oxiredo_ro, ehm? [06:28] removed? [06:28] nice... [06:28] i removed the aaa_elflibs-13.0 and tried to install aaa_elflibs.13.1 [06:28] why? [06:29] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:29] READ http://connie.slackware.com/~mozes//docs/aaa_elflibs.txt [06:29] i tried to upgrade [06:29] first google hit for "aaa_elflibs [06:29] " [06:29] aaa_elflibs: This package should be not upgraded or reinstalled (it could copy aaa_elflibs: over newer library versions). [06:29] it's worth reading completely but let me quote that page: [06:29] I've also been meaning to warn people that if they [06:29] see a new aaa_elflibs released that upgrading to it is a REALLY DUMB IDEA. [06:30] " a REALLY DUMB IDEA" [06:30] lol [06:30] also is there any program(s) that let you have localized maps that anyone knows about? :/ [06:31] ok;;;it is removed;can i install that old one again ? [06:32] I think you're better without that package now, if you've removed it, it can be ok, but if you reinstall it, you'll most definitely break something [06:33] oxiredo_ro, if you have a full install, aaa_elflibs is basically not needed any more. [06:33] i_is_cat: "localized maps"? detail [06:33] cause every lib it has is in it's own package also. [06:33] a map of my local area [06:33] ok [06:33] tnx [06:34] i am having a hard time finding anything on google because it seems like map is bringing up software mapping tools etc and i am looking for something like google maps or whatever.. only a program i can download and dont need access to the internet for.. [06:35] openstreetmap.org ? [06:36] thanks adrien i will check that out [06:36] Hoogin (hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left ##slackware. [06:37] crocket (crocket@121.168.91.143) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.2"). [06:37] there are several front-ends to that so it's only a matter of downloading the data for offline use [06:37] aziztcf_ (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-92-138.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [06:38] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-92-138.kotinet.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:38] adrien, well then thats exactly what im looking for thanks :) [06:38] =) [06:40] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [06:42] v4nelle (~van@79.107.231.98) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:43] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:44] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [06:45] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [06:46] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:47] cool there are two slackbuilds for such programs.. tangogps and merkaartor [06:50] i think openstreetmap.org limits the amount of data to be downloaded [06:51] anyway, i can't find a good replacement for Google Earth. Is there one? I need sattelite imagery. [06:52] google earth is probably your best bet [06:53] it's not the software that can make a difference there, but access to maps and images [06:54] there's also marble [06:55] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:57] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:57] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [06:57] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:58] Vanger (~Vanger@80.91.178.197) joined ##slackware. [06:58] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:58] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [07:00] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:02] why do you people log the channel? [07:02] Evidence. [07:02] ...why not? [07:02] Just to understand the context behind noobfarm. [07:02] of ? [07:02] Asshattery. [07:02] Incompetence. [07:03] ooh, new quote [07:03] *approves* [07:03] hehe [07:03] nice, haha [07:03] i'm playing with grep on the logs and I found some nasty things. [07:03] did you use gloves ? [07:04] Then don;t gerp for nasty things [07:04] lol [07:04] grope ? [07:05] another reason for logs.. prove I'm not crazy when I thought something was broken and I never found a fix :P yay for evidence [07:06] how can you prove something false? [07:06] !true [07:07] can easily show someone didn't say what they thought they did, especially if they said the opoosite [07:08] 2005: grep "slackware sucks" * | wc -l [07:08] 21 [07:08] gogie (~toytoy@unaffiliated/gogie) joined ##slackware. [07:08] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:09] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [07:10] grep $AzeotropeFail * : buffer overflow [07:10] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:11] ... [07:16] pupiteee (~p@93.86.242.108) joined ##slackware. [07:16] http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/314666-slackware-131-a-linux-distro-that-gets-out-of-the-way :) [07:17] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-152-85.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:24] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [07:26] i get this when playing an .avi file in mplayer could not open/initialize sound device -> no sound [07:26] neither dragon or gxine work [07:26] i have the sound working in my system and set to alsa (in mplayer) [07:27] tried other .avi file? [07:28] yes, others work [07:29] well, watch those .avi :) [07:30] just kidding, sound may be corrupted in that .avi [07:30] SpacePlod (SpacePlod@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-tcolzhauwmwlgbfj) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:30] nope, tried it in a win machine and works ok [07:30] Agris (~agris@80.232.193.2) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:30] yeah, it happened for me too [07:31] Wiseguy (wiseguy@acid.epicshells.com) left irc: Quit: changing servers [07:31] windows played it but not in linux [07:32] its still corrupted, windows skips the errors or something, linux doesnt [07:34] Wiseguy (wiseguy@acid.epicshells.com) joined ##slackware. [07:34] Azeotrope (1000@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:35] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [07:36] avi is just a container, no telling what the underlying compression codec is used. [07:38] guax (~guax@189.4.108.113) joined ##slackware. [07:38] guax (~guax@189.4.108.113) left irc: Changing host [07:38] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [07:39] XGizzmo im sure he will figure it out one way or another :) [07:41] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:42] SpacePlod (SpacePlod@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-ogupekqqdkmlrnsh) joined ##slackware. [07:45] Azeotrope (1000@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [07:45] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [07:45] Aidar-Nagato (admin@81.30.177.243.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. [07:46] I never uninstall old VirtualBox when upgrading, I just run the .run file. Can that damage my system? [07:47] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [07:48] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [07:50] gogie (~toytoy@unaffiliated/gogie) left irc: Quit: gogie [07:55] tommcd (~tom@c-71-225-138-51.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:55] tommcd (~tom@c-71-225-138-51.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [07:56] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:58] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:59] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [08:04] necrogami (~necrogami@unaffiliated/necrogami) left irc: Quit: necrogami [08:07] pupiteee (~p@93.86.242.108) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:08] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [08:09] I heard in #radeon that if radeon can't find the proper firmware in initrd, then it would be likely udev issue. [08:10] What does udev have to do with firmware loading in initrd? [08:10] udev in the initrd is the same udev on the system [08:10] udev contains the firmware loader. [08:10] udev *package* contains the firmware loader [08:10] Should I package a new version of udev? [08:11] What makes you think the firmware still isn't loading? [08:11] crocket: no, udev on the system is fine. [08:11] hmm? [08:11] udev in initrd isn't. [08:11] Sure it is. [08:11] Then what's gone wrong? [08:11] I don't know. [08:11] What makes you think the firmware still isn't loading? [08:11] pebkac [08:12] rworkman : I need to reboot and check it again. [08:12] If something's wrong, linux displays a black screen for a minute and resumes booting. [08:12] and dmesg says firmware missing. [08:12] You can but a "/bin/sh" line in '/boot/initrd-tree/init' and drop to a shell inside the initrd [08:13] When does dmesg say that? After the system has booted? [08:13] rworkman, this ---> http://pastebin.ca/1878988 [08:13] Oops [08:13] The post has expired [08:13] That is an invalid ID, or the post has expired. [08:14] http://pastebin.org/321257 [08:16] Look for firmware [08:16] Line 569 [08:16] Since I don't have a debug facility, I don't know what's going inside. [08:17] rworkman, any clue? [08:18] The lines 571 and 572 have one minute break. [08:18] That doesn't say the firmware is missing - it says it couldn't load. :/ [08:18] couldn't load or missing I don't discriminate [08:19] The kernel browing in initrd can't find the firmware that exists there. [08:19] That's fucking important though - there's a big goddamned difference between "file not found" and "file can't be used" [08:19] ok [08:20] Failed to load doesn't mean failed to find [08:20] may not mean [08:20] rworkman: fwiw i have crocket red-tagged for this kind of moronic fuckwittery [08:21] It can be loaded when there is no initrd. [08:22] pupiteee (~p@109.93.25.238) joined ##slackware. [08:22] aziztcf_ (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-92-138.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:24] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:25] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-92-138.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. 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[08:35] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:35] Nick change: SuBmUnDo -> [D\E\A\D]SuBmUnD [08:35] would point the first finger at irssi and the 2nd at your framebuffer [08:36] [D\E\A\D]SuBmUnD (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:37] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@168-103-63-219.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:38] [D\E\A\D]SuBmUnD (~SuBmUnDo@208.98.61.45) joined ##slackware. [08:38] FYI, I had to go get the tail of this log so that I would see what you wrote haha [08:38] ComputerNewbie (~adsfasdf@c-67-180-200-131.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:39] (and I can't really see what I wrote, because someone logged out and overwrote my line) [08:39] lemme log in from my laptop (which works) [08:39] nixness (~dsc@78.101.56.18) left irc: Quit: be back in a sec [08:40] nixness (~dsc@78.101.56.18) joined ##slackware. [08:40] okay so I would guess most of my issues are framebuffer/video-driver related [08:41] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) got netsplit. [08:41] fadein (fadein@212.117.163.191) got netsplit. [08:42] which graphic card? [08:43] it's an ati radeon HD card (3XXX I'll get the numbers now) [08:44] 3450 [08:44] which slackware version? [08:44] 13.1 [08:44] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) returned to ##slackware. [08:44] and do you have the same problem in other programs? [08:45] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:45] hmm actually when I switched back to X while I was chatting on the other computer, the colors went crazy and it only came back to normal when I selected another resolution then went back to the original [08:45] Elektro_ (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [08:46] I'm leaning more towards saying that it's a driver issue [08:46] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [08:46] Does anyoane know what the deal is with using VirtualBox's binary use for businesses? I know it's a PUEL licence.. but what if you want to actually pay for it? The closest info i can find is that you can buy a media pack or two different levels of support on the oracle store. All i want is to be legally entitled to use the blob with USB support for software testing. [08:46] it happens in X or in console? [08:46] in X [08:46] in tty, the text isn't updated well [08:46] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:47] fadein (fadein@212.117.163.191) got lost in the net-split. [08:47] so if I were using irssi in tty, I would see Wiren's quit message overwrite my last line [08:47] which shell are you using? [08:47] bash [08:47] did any tweaking to it recently? [08:47] nope :) [08:47] uva (as@111-240-208-45.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [08:48] would the framebuffer settings be helpful to you guys? 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[08:50] okay lemme check [08:51] Teratogen, for about 5 versions already [08:51] nixness: problem is, since you didn't use screen, you need to restart irssi [08:51] I'm on my laptop now, lemme go back to the other machine [08:51] nixness (~dsc@78.101.56.18) left irc: Quit: be back in a sec [08:55] thanks [08:55] nixness (~dsc@78.101.56.18) joined ##slackware. [08:55] eah, still messed up. text overwriting other text [08:55] nixness (~dsc@78.101.56.18) left irc: Client Quit [08:56] nixness (~dsc@78.101.56.18) joined ##slackware. [08:56] back [08:57] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [08:57] nixness: I blame ncurses. [08:57] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:57] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:58] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-hcsdsxvzurenswpg) joined ##slackware. [08:58] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [08:58] hehe I guess I'm better off trying to increase my screen resolution (without crashing X) and staying there [09:00] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [09:02] Elektro_ (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Quit: Elektro_ [09:02] I'm installing self-made package, but can't see package description [09:02] file slack-desc is on place [09:02] -rw-r--r-- root/root 756 2010-06-09 21:48 install/slack-desc [09:03] Action: nixness http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1Ar79f8aN8 [09:03] Necrosporus, bad formatting. see http://slackwiki.org/Slack-desc [09:04] slava_dp, it's from slackbuilds.org [09:04] hmm.. which package is it? [09:04] To be exact, I'm trying to install qt4 4.5.2 on Slackware 12.1 [09:05] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [09:05] dunno. the slack-desc for qt4 for 12.1 appears ok. [09:05] I had experienced some problems, for some reason, slackbuild script wasn't finished, but I did myself rest of work [09:05] necrogami (~necrogami@173-165-68-49-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [09:06] necrogami (~necrogami@173-165-68-49-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Changing host [09:06] necrogami (~necrogami@unaffiliated/necrogami) joined ##slackware. [09:06] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8D203.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:07] Seems, install script doesn't work as well [09:08] jeremym (~jeremym@pool-70-104-108-211.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:09] jeremym (~jeremym@pool-70-106-164-55.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:13] I get problem fixed by making install/slack-desc executable [09:13] rabies (~micemicer@core.routed.com) joined ##slackware. [09:13] * install/doinstall.sh executable [09:13] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:14] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [09:14] Srbo (~Srbo@79.101.240.49) joined ##slackware. [09:15] Necrosporus: YDIW. [09:16] I don't know *what* you did wrong, but your "fix" is never the fix. [09:19] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:19] rworkman, maybe you are right [09:20] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [09:20] s/maybe// [09:20] Hello [09:21] Hello [09:21] Is there anybody in there? [09:21] for about an hour more - then I leave :) [09:21] I dont know.... [09:21] Could be [09:22] I'm using irssi for the first time here. I'm scared. [09:22] It's nice :) [09:22] Real men use telnet for irc [09:22] It is... if you're stuck at work and have to keep the fact that you're screwing off on IRC at work... :) [09:23] CTRL-Z & bg FTW [09:23] my last comment made no sense [09:24] Let me try again... It is if you're stuck at work and you need to keep the fact that you are screwing off at work hidden. [09:24] <--hasn't had coffee yet [09:27] nixness: no. Ctrl+A,D FTW. [09:27] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-104.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:28] hehe screen fan! [09:29] socat READLINE TCP:ircserver:port is better [09:30] I'm also using screen for this. :) [09:31] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:31] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:33] goarilla (~kjp@unaffiliated/goarilla) joined ##slackware. [09:34] is it me or is LDAP not working in thunderbird (slack64 13.1) [09:34] directory server entries you add are _not_ saved in the list and thus not selectable [09:35] <--doesn't use LDAP [09:37] doesnt thunderbird need an ldap server? [09:37] no [09:38] it's in edit-preferences-composition-addressing where the bug is [09:38] it works in the windows 32 bit version tho [09:40] grazymax (~grazymax@host72-156-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:40] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:41] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [09:45] bjx (~brendan@113-61-80-63.static.qld.dsl.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:46] Anyone here use Apline, Elm or Mutt (not telnet for mail)? [09:46] Roin (~florian@p5B2BFDFC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:46] <-- mutt [09:46] mutt++ [09:46] candinho (~candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) joined ##slackware. [09:47] Can you set Mutt for POP, Leave Mail On Server, and Download Headers Only? [09:47] candinho (~candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) left irc: Client Quit [09:47] I don't use mutt to get mail [09:47] I use fetchmail [09:47] and I pretty sure fetchmail can do that [09:47] Really don't know - I use fetchmail and deliver to the local spool. Or IMAP directly. [09:48] mtkoan is correct. [09:48] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:48] Niladuial (~Dante@80-89-33-150.network.itconnect.no) joined ##slackware. [09:48] bjx (~brendan@113-61-80-63.static.qld.dsl.net.au) left irc: Client Quit [09:48] arfon: I use getmail, which is essentially the same, to pull from GMail and others. I choose to leave the mail on the server, and it works well. [09:48] Niladuial (Dante@80-89-33-150.network.itconnect.no) left ##slackware. [09:48] bjx (~brendan@113-61-80-63.static.qld.dsl.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:50] i used to use fdm [09:50] Doesnt fetch mail just, fetch the mail to a directory? [09:50] you cant say its name is misleading [09:51] arfon: mpop works good with POP mail server [09:51] arfon: see if this helps [09:52] Thanks chip. [09:52] certainly. [09:52] Let me tell you my situation and get your opinions.... [09:53] I need console access to email. but, I use Thunderbird at home. My email account is a SMALL POP only account [09:53] ...and my dial-up is a very heavily tolled Virgin mobile connection [09:54] I wanted to use Alpine (since I used that 15 years ago) but, I can't see how to Leave Mail On Server or Download Hearders Only [09:54] Rainly (~Rainly@114-44-178-29.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [09:54] Rainly (Rainly@114-44-178-29.dynamic.hinet.net) left ##slackware. [09:54] Suggestions? [09:55] im pretty sure mutt can do that. theres extensive documentation for it in /usr/doc [09:56] kalakoer (~kalakoer-@88-196-188-224-dsl.trt.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [09:56] Then, I'll give Mutt a try... Thanks. [09:56] you can find out beforehand [09:56] Not sure, really. Heavy IMAP user which does what you want natively. [09:56] the mail retrieval tools mentioned I know can do that [09:57] mutt, no idea [09:57] Yeah but my mail provider doesn't give me much memory (or support IMAP). [09:57] oh right. silly me [09:58] My life is hard. [09:58] check the mutt & (fetch|get)mail docs. The latter option for sure supports it. [09:59] Cann0n (~jack@dialup-4.91.102.30.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [09:59] Cann0n (~jack@dialup-4.91.102.30.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) left irc: Changing host [09:59] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [10:00] :D funny people [10:02] nixness (dsc@78.101.56.18) left ##slackware. [10:02] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-75-109.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:02] Okay, I don't mean to sound totally ignorant but, I haven't messed with console mail in 15 years... Doesn't fetchmail just download the mail and drop it into a spool? [10:03] yes. [10:03] the docs for fetchmail are very good. read up [10:03] Prety sure you can tell fetchmail to keep a copy on the server [10:03] yeppers [10:04] Well, if that's what's fetchmail does, how do you tell it which email to grab AFTER it has only grabbed headers and you have looked through them? [10:04] With this connection, I really need to throttle my downloads so I need attachments stripped also. [10:04] arfon: mutt is the bomb. Just in case that helps. [10:05] hm that's an interesting problem, I would read the docs [10:05] Everyone seems to love mutt. I am going to look into it. [10:05] arfon: i you have the header/msg id in the local spool, FM won't re-grab it. [10:05] I know fetchmail was written with the intent of supporting low-bandwidth dial-up [10:05] also, a simple "keep" in the poll stanza of your config file does just that. keeps it on the server. [10:05] cool [10:06] cool again [10:07] gogie (~toytoy@unaffiliated/gogie) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:08] fadein (fadein@212.117.163.191) joined ##slackware. [10:09] I wanna break out my TRS-80s now..... [10:09] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [10:09] Model I FTW [10:10] I added FIRMWARE and DEVPATH variable in /lib/udev/rules.d/50-firmware.rules in initrd but failed. [10:10] I thought adding some paths to udev would make it load firmware. [10:11] arfon: Have a II or III in my basement, along with a box of cassettes and cartridges of all sorts. [10:15] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:17] v4nelle (~van@79.107.231.98) joined ##slackware. [10:17] I'm jealous muraii [10:18] +) [10:19] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:19] solar_sea (~solar@85.14.14.82) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:20] gogie (~toytoy@unaffiliated/gogie) joined ##slackware. [10:23] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426796.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [10:23] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426796.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:27] Also, my Amiga 500, a 9600-baud modem (I think it's an A5xx something), a 1084S monitor for it, and a Tandy 200 laptop with 19K memory that runs on AAA batteries. +) [10:27] BentoPUNK (~BentoPUNK@189.2.128.178) joined ##slackware. [10:29] I still got an Apple IIe with 11 original programming manuals [10:29] Does it work? [10:31] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:33] warmana (~quassel@188.222.193.153) joined ##slackware. [10:34] Cann0n: Sweet. Never had any Apple gear until a couple o' years ago. [10:36] whaaa? [10:37] dang dude, apple has been around for ages [10:37] arfon: yeah it works [10:37] Cann0n: I know. Things just work out that way. [10:38] Azeotrope (1000@unaffiliated/jbauer) left ##slackware. [10:38] Cann0n: IIe with the 8088 chip? [10:38] nickstolen: to be honest i don't know. [10:38] miljo (~jam@unaffiliated/miljo) joined ##slackware. [10:38] I have a II with 2 external floopy drives still [10:39] miljo (jam@unaffiliated/miljo) left ##slackware. [10:39] Man, what you could do with 7.14Hz once upon a time. [10:39] :) fully working with the overpriced ridiculous gfx card [10:39] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@77.49.25.197.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Quit: the poul......... :) [10:39] that I think could/can do 3 colors or something like that [10:39] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:40] man old apple c II pluses had the best games.. lemonade stand and oregon trail, too [10:40] s/too/woo/ [10:40] what GPU are you using, nickstolen [10:41] it's all monochrome green [10:41] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [10:41] shonudo: don't know I have to go to Germany, go into the cellar of my dad's place and have a look [10:41] (and i've never gotten the pricing structure of something that is replaced by a new model every six months) [10:41] ah, you're doing this remote [10:42] Cann0n na there was a ridiculously overpriced card you could buy for some additional colors [10:42] add "?" to the end of that [10:42] google time.. shouldn't be too many of them [10:42] nickstolen: yeah i've been on one of those. It had red and orange and a shitty blue collor iirc [10:43] shonudo: yeah.. I like to buy something and have it last a few years.. I don't upgrade things that often [10:43] this one is straight up basic. 32KB of mem [10:43] something like that [10:43] lol BASIC programming [10:43] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Quit: Bye [10:43] it's been years since i've touched it. i figure the less i screw it up, the better condition i'll keep it in [10:43] and turtle was the paint back then [10:45] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [10:45] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:45] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:46] Wonder if I can find my all time favourite game back then. [10:47] which game? [10:47] 1971 Galaxy [10:47] This is way off-topic, but is there a better place than eBay / Craigslist to sell old gear like this? I may not be able to keep it too much longer (moving + downsizing), but I'd like to "find it a good home," if that makes sense. [10:48] An old appleII? [10:48] muraii: sometimes you can just offer on irc :) I sold/gave away an old loved box that way [10:48] muraii: i wish [10:48] nickstolen: Nein, Amiga. [10:48] muraii: motherboard had fried, so I sent it to someone for $25 (I just wanted shipping) [10:48] mm Amigas' are common [10:48] muraii: i cant even sell brand new sealed tape cleaning cartridges without ebay [10:48] That's because no one cares about tape cleaning cartridges [10:48] raela: I've thought of that. The #amiga channel used to be quite active, even during the Commodore sell-off to that German company. Alas, not so much today. [10:48] You get them with your drive [10:49] So..not very many people need them [10:49] muraii: keep it :) you can always make a phone answering machine out of it. [10:49] lol [10:49] +) [10:50] More likely to play the SSI D&D games (Pool of Radiance, Gateway to the Savage Frontier) than anything. [10:50] gwynnbleid (~Davide_No@host175-49-dynamic.30-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:51] gwynnbleid (Davide_No@host175-49-dynamic.30-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware. [10:59] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [11:01] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: gone [11:03] has anybody been having weird graphic and text corruption in 13.1 with firefox, using ati radeon and having compositing enabled? it's the only app that suffers from corruption caused by me scrolling the page. [11:03] I have to then reload the current page to fix it, but then it can happen again as I continue to scroll down [11:05] My Firefox works fine on my intel graphics chip [11:05] mishehu: what do you mean by graphic corruption? [11:05] sounds like a driver issue [11:05] I use the stock 13.1 firefox, ati catalyst 10.5 drivers on a laptop [11:05] raela: let's say there's a paragraph of text. when scrolling up or down, it gets jumbled together and you lose between 1 and 3 rows of text from it [11:06] ick, haven't had that happen, no. are you using fglrx? [11:06] ati catalyst? I thought they stopped support fglrx [11:06] nope, using the opensource radeon drivers [11:07] huh? no, fglrx is still going wrong, 10.5 came out 3 weeks ago or so [11:07] going wrong is right :-) [11:07] craytoon (~craytoon@65.103.249.182) joined ##slackware. [11:08] Action: muraii is happy to just have a boring Intel on-board graphics chipset. [11:08] These driver shenanigans are obtuse. [11:08] ...sigh, strong. sorry, I'm out of it, sometimes [11:08] well I'm not positive if it's a vid driver issue, as this problem only seems to occur in firefox [11:08] <-- Netbook with intel graphics works great with 13.1 [11:08] muraii: yeah, my older laptop is an intel.. graphics things have gone MUCH smoother than the ati, or my old nvidia card [11:08] jomo (~mich@p3EE21019.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [11:08] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:09] 3d stuff sux but, hey, it's a netbook [11:09] though I use a box with on screen graphics.. that uses AST? sup with that, bah :P glad I don't do anything with it [11:09] raela: I stopped using fglrx the instant the radeon opensource had support for my vidcard - even before they had 3d support for it. fglrx didn't support xrandr [11:09] raela: Hmm, okay. I haven't bothered with those issues for a couple of years, and the little bits I've heard here and there weren't promising. Maybe I've misheard. [11:09] Mis, are you on a desktop? [11:09] mishehu: well, do you have anything against using fglrx? xrandr I believe works now. I would recommend trying another driver, just in case [11:10] mishehu: maybe even vesa and see if it happens [11:10] raela: yeah, I got the "oh shit this won't compile" problem against trying fglrx :-) [11:10] muraii: the one laptop I have has been an absolute pain in the ass with graphics (ati). but, since 13.0, it has gone smoothly [11:10] yeah I'm on a desktop [11:10] radeon hd4890 [11:10] mishehu: ./ati-installer-* --build-pkg Slackware/All [11:11] mishehu: it gives you two slackware packages that work great for 13.1, both 32 and 64 bit [11:11] raela: Nice. [11:11] t0mm13b_ (~tommieb@92.251.194.174.threembb.ie) joined ##slackware. [11:11] raela: that doesn't guarantee it builds the fglrx kernel mod successfully against my current kernel [11:11] Mishehu, then may I suggest you go and get a $40 nVidia card and turn off that radeon? nVidia drivers are much better [11:12] arfon: no, they're not really THAT much better than the ati ones. I've got a notebook that uses the nvidia drivers. [11:12] mishehu: I believe it works for 2.6.34.x as well. it builds the package, though, so you'll see it fail before you go to install [11:12] danix (~danix@host22-54-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:16] alicephilippa (alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:19] mishehu: stick with radeon [11:19] cli_ (~cowyn@li110-174.members.linode.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:20] warmana (~quassel@188.222.193.153) left irc: Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere. [11:20] cli_ (~cowyn@li110-174.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [11:20] t0mm13b_ (~tommieb@92.251.194.174.threembb.ie) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:21] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.36.59) joined ##slackware. [11:21] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [11:22] muraii (muraii@unaffiliated/muraii) left ##slackware. [11:25] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [11:27] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@168-103-63-219.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [11:28] Nicce (~Nicce@ip-88-193-241-92.dialup.ice.net) joined ##slackware. [11:29] Cann0n: I plan to do so. I had waaaaay more heartache using fglrx over the years [11:29] I [11:29] I'll need to look at the firefox build script to see if there's some goofy param that might cause this issue for me [11:31] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:31] alicephilippa (alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:32] --don't-update-text-when-scrolling ? [11:32] of course there isn't a parameter that would negatively effect scrolling like that ;) it's a driver issue [11:33] niee (~user@213.149.138.60) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:33] evanton (~cbbe@unaffiliated/evanton) joined ##slackware. [11:33] mishehu: i've been using ati for about 12 years now [11:34] i've seen just as many people bitch about nvidia drivers as ati drivers [11:34] thrice`: I was thinking maybe that it was a bug in some component of firefox also [11:34] Cann0n: did you count them? :) [11:34] since the problem does only occur in firefox [11:34] Cann0n: if you wanna talk statistics, you have to have big numbers :) [11:34] you're on the latest and greatest from 13.1, mishehu ? [11:35] evanton: fuck you. /ignored [11:35] very funny [11:35] danix (~danix@host22-54-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:35] mishehu: is firefox also blanking out resized images? [11:35] v4nelle (~van@79.107.231.98) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:35] Cann0n: wow - yer crabby ;) [11:36] chipster: nah. thats my way of being funny. like smirking dick comments from evanton is his way of being "funny" too [11:36] :) [11:36] that's your way of being rude [11:36] oh well... [11:37] Cr1kk4 (~fabio@93-45-64-194.ip101.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [11:38] nixness (~dsc@78.101.56.18) joined ##slackware. [11:38] hey all [11:38] hi [11:38] hi all [11:38] why does X segfault when started by any user other than root?... [11:38] I'm having issues with wesnoth-1.8 built using the SBo script - it just won't react to mouse clicks on main menu items [11:39] it's Slackware 13.1 and the same 1.8 used to work fine in 13.0 just about a week before 13.1 was released [11:39] nixness, actual segfault? 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[11:49] but that still doesn't explain how root can use it and others can't haha [11:49] like what sorta bug do the f'ed up ATI devs have in there... [11:49] My acer aspire 5520 does not suspend properly with 13.1 64. While it did with 12.2. google etc have given any hits. Anyone have experiance [11:49] I caved and started using radeon [11:49] by not work--it suspends... but on wake up, it doesn't wake up [11:50] caved?? you should welcome radeon with open arms ;) [11:50] alicephilippa (alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:50] so radeonhd or just radeon? [11:50] eventually it turns off [11:50] thrice`: probably, except the gpu is MUCH slower [11:51] I know, its a better project though [11:51] anyone want to cave/open-my-arms to radeon? [11:51] lol [11:51] Action: nixness oops that has a perverted connotation to it...ignore it [11:52] fglrx is fine [11:52] (IMO) [11:52] BentoPUNK (BentoPUNK@189.2.128.178) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:52] Well, mostly fine [11:52] fglrx doesn't work with my old laptop with the newserver xserver [11:52] definte 'new' [11:52] NaCl: IME it's segfaulting like a high+drunk teenager [11:53] nixness: it's a major YMMV [11:53] evanton (~cbbe@unaffiliated/evanton) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [11:53] I did have to make an xorg.conf to prevent it from dying [11:53] nah my M is quite basic, and it still segfaults [11:53] it likes root though ;) [11:54] alicephilippa (alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:54] nixness: it likes root? [11:55] elaborate [11:55] nixness, which groups is your user in? [11:56] Was about to mention that [11:56] it's in users sys video cdrom [11:56] MrZhi (mrzhi@one.does.not.simply.walk.into.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [11:56] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@200.63.199.99) joined ##slackware. [11:57] hmm... [11:57] Anyone in here iptables friendly? [11:57] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:57] Urgleflogue (~plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [11:57] Action: nixness puts his coffee on the iptable [11:57] Cause I'm trying to do a simple l.a.m.p. centric firewall and frankly, it's kickin' my ass [11:57] Nick change: arfon -> CaptNemo [11:58] http://shellium.pastebin.com/cmLZdLw2 <-- This is my elementry level script.... [11:58] brb, gotta plug in my monitor and keyboard into the computer I just blocked myself out with, using that script [11:59] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [11:59] Nick change: CaptNemo -> Capt_Nemo [11:59] Nick change: Capt_Nemo -> Capt-Nemo [12:00] Nick change: Capt-Nemo -> Capt_Nemo [12:00] Nick change: Capt_Nemo -> Capt-Nemo [12:00] and we're back [12:01] Nick change: Capt-Nemo -> clueless [12:02] Nick change: clueless -> clueless_1 [12:02] clueless_1: OK [12:03] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [12:03] alicephilippa (alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:03] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:05] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:06] so I have never tried a usb drive with slackware before [12:06] what happens when you plug usb drive in? [12:06] does it spawn a process? [12:06] Why would it spawn a process? [12:06] just it just mount it like any other drive? [12:06] The kernel detects it. UDEV creates devices. [12:06] Teratogen: if you are a user in pulgdev --it just works [12:06] ah, ok [12:07] If your window manager supports it, your drive will automatically mount [12:07] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:07] Otherwise, you just get a device node to do whatever you want with it [12:07] As for mounting, that depends on whether you have an automounter (e.g. autofs). See what straterra said. [12:07] ah ok, thanks [12:07] latest adduser suggests plugdev as a group for all new user as well Teratogen [12:08] NaCl: any ideas? [12:09] nixness: not offhand, sorry [12:11] I'm checkint out my xinitrc [12:11] maybe there's something that could be done there...mmm [12:12] Nick change: [D\E\A\D]SuBmUnD -> SuBmUnDo [12:13] Nick change: SuBmUnDo -> Guest22556 [12:13] cli_ (~cowyn@li110-174.members.linode.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:13] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:13] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:14] cli_ (~cowyn@li110-174.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [12:16] alicephilippa (alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:16] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [12:16] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) joined ##slackware. [12:17] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [12:17] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:18] clueless_1 (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:19] Guest22556 (~SuBmUnDo@208.98.61.45) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:20] nixness (~dsc@78.101.56.18) left irc: Quit: leavingness [12:20] Guest22556 (~SuBmUnDo@208.98.61.45) joined ##slackware. [12:21] Guest22556 (~SuBmUnDo@208.98.61.45) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:22] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:24] Nicce (~Nicce@ip-88-193-241-92.dialup.ice.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving! [12:25] bobbysbits (~bobby@212.183.140.30) joined ##slackware. [12:25] anyone use mysql ? [12:26] yes [12:26] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@81.30.177.243.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:26] i keep getting something like pid ending [12:27] as an error? [12:27] jgeboski, you know what im doing wrong ? [12:27] how are you starting mysql? [12:27] bobbysbits: more /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld [12:27] bobbysbits: read the notes about getting everything initialized [12:27] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:28] http://www.open-sourceenterprises.com/slackware-snort.html i was following that howto ...for snort [12:28] ok will do Dominian [12:31] rabies (micemicer@core.routed.com) left ##slackware. [12:31] stil not working :( [12:31] still* [12:32] ok, so currently i have libdrm-2.4.18, mesa-7.7, and xorg-server-1.7.5 running on my alpha...what would be the proper upgrade order to get libdrm-2.4.20, mesa-7.8.1, xorg-server-1.7.7 ? [12:32] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:33] alpha as in dec alpha? neat [12:33] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:33] bobbysbits: you did run mysql_install_db? [12:33] Urchlay: yes [12:33] ang: i think the way you said it [12:34] mysql_install_db --user=mysql && chmod 755 /etc/.rc.d/rc.mysqld [12:34] yeah jg71 [12:34] jgeboski* [12:34] sahko: ok. i'll give it a go [12:37] bobbysbits: just to be sure, can you copy the output of "ls -la /var/lib/mysql/" to a pastebin please? [12:37] jgeboski, what commands would you give to start mysql ..just mysql_install_db && /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld start ? [12:37] i've tried upgrading those three in the past, but X seems to lock up on start up...no keyboard or mouse at all [12:37] ok [12:39] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:39] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:40] I am seeding the first 3 isos of slackware linux [12:40] I AM SO PROUD OF MYSELF! [12:40] hi [12:40] BP{k}, --> http://pastebin.ca/1879850 [12:40] Teratogen, the original isos? [12:40] how can I send to dhcpcd command to get IP again from DHCP server ? [12:41] Teratogen: heh, nice [12:41] well I got the isos via torrents [12:41] so what do you mean by original? [12:41] I got the latest ones I am pretty sure [12:41] slackware 1.0, 2.0, 3.0? [12:42] oh! [12:42] no [12:42] slackware 13 [12:42] 13.something [12:42] bobbysbits: what do you get if you run /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld start [12:42] ahhh, gotcha [12:42] it comes on more than one iso [12:42] it would be kind of cool to torrent old versions of slackware though [12:42] where do old versions of distros go? [12:42] do they disappear? [12:42] or can you still get them? [12:42] do you want to get them? [12:43] bobbysbits: didja chown -R mysql.mysql /var/lib/mysql? [12:43] won't they have security holes? [12:43] they go to distro heaven to chill out with stallman [12:43] hehe [12:43] no wait he's not dead [12:43] ..yet [12:43] I met him in person [12:43] he is a slob [12:43] BP{k}, it seems to hang after a while i press enter, then try pidof mysql ..nothing [12:43] yeah MrZhi [12:44] bobbysbits: hm so noconsole output at all? [12:44] no [12:44] just hangs [12:44] well yes [12:44] hold on [12:44] bobby, did you do a ps aux and if so didja see mysqld_safe running? [12:44] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [12:44] there is four lines should i paste bin them ? [12:45] yes please. [12:45] ok [12:45] no i didnt MrZhi [12:46] didn't see mysqld_safe? [12:46] http://pastebin.ca/1879854 [12:47] MrZhi, im beginning to forget which commands ive used but think ive tried most :( [12:47] been on this for a while [12:47] oxiredo_ro (~dumped@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:47] MrZhi: bashed on his console output, it won't be running as mysqld_safe seems to be terminated [12:48] Yeah, I've been reviewing over all the stuff you've done so far [12:48] s/bashed/based/ [12:48] bobbysbits: pastebing the contents of /var/lib/mysql/slackbox.err if you mind? [12:48] yeah sure [12:48] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.86.45) joined ##slackware. [12:48] bobbysbits: do this, just try to start mysqld_safe & and see what happens [12:48] dumped_B (~dumped@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [12:49] Nick change: dumped_B -> oxiredo_ro [12:49] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:51] InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process [12:51] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:51] oxiredo_ro (~dumped@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Client Quit [12:51] that repeating itself on last part of log [12:53] bobbysbits: do 'ps aux | grep --colors mysql' [12:53] http://pastebin.ca/1879856 ive missed some of the log cause im pasting from xterm [12:53] which was just repeating [12:53] ok MrZhi [12:53] maybe cp /etc/my-small.cnf to /etc/my.cnf as well [12:54] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:54] cp: target `/etc/my.cnf' is not a directory [12:54] ? [12:54] my error i cp and paste you line :( [12:55] cp /etc/my-small.cnf /etc/my.cnf [12:55] try that one [12:55] is this the correct way to create a slackware chroot environment? [12:55] as root :D [12:55] http://slackworld.berlios.de/2007/chroot_howto.html [12:55] namedrisk (~namedrisk@201.80.208.20) joined ##slackware. [12:55] i get output from ps aux | grep --colors mysql want me to paste it ? [12:56] dustybin, i used that for chroot [12:56] bobbysbits: sure paste the output [12:56] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:56] dustybin, never used X in a chroot, but that looks about right [12:56] bobbysbits: so i could use that to create a chroot enviroment, then copy it to a usb stick [12:56] dustybin, I wouldn't bind mount /proc, but it looks OK otherwise [12:56] ace [12:57] http://pastebin.ca/1879858 [12:57] my other option is to use alienBOB tool: usbimg2disk.sh [12:58] usbimg2disk.sh -f -s /home/ftp/pub/slackware-13.1 -o /dev/sdX [12:58] looks like mysql is already running bobbysbits [12:58] sdX = usb stick [12:59] dustybin: not necessarily [12:59] what am i doing wrong MrZhi ? [12:59] sdX = SCSI device [12:59] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.36.59) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:59] That can be a hard drive, USB stick..anything which uses the SCSI layer for block storage [12:59] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [12:59] excellent [13:00] so i could do one copy to a hard disk partiton [13:00] dustybin, of course, .tgz should be changed to .t?z too [13:00] i think alienBOB tool is dedicated for a usb stick, thats what i want [13:00] thrice`, why wouldnt you not mount proc ? [13:00] for chroot [13:01] bind mount* [13:01] just use mount -t proc none /mnt/chroot/proc [13:01] ok [13:02] ive forgotten what the howto says now [13:02] mcury (~mcury@189.24.9.91) joined ##slackware. [13:03] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:03] for my particular installation, i need to install xorg 1.6 [13:04] what would be the best way to install xorg 1.6? download source directly from the project website, or look for a old slackware package? [13:04] with bash, just installpkg -root /mnt/chroot {a,ap,l,n}/*.t?z will do the dirty work too [13:04] dustybin, xorg 1.6 is pretty old [13:04] install both tgz and txz [13:05] thrice`: i need it for my joggler. the touchscreen drivers only work in 1.6 [13:05] danix (~danix@host37-62-dynamic.49-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:06] bummer :( which drivers, wacom? [13:07] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:08] slackware 13.0 uses xorg 1.6! [13:09] ftp://ftp.slackware.org.uk/slackware/slackware-13.0/source/x/x11/src/xserver/ [13:09] ok and 13.0 is old already :-) [13:09] yep but its ideal for my needs [13:09] i might as well do a whole slackware 13.0 install onto usb stick [13:09] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [13:10] been there and done that [13:10] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:12] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.36.59) joined ##slackware. [13:13] Action: dustybin starts to feel excited [13:13] woa Slackware subscription was charged on credit card on June 4th [13:14] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-169-254.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:14] sahko, yes, 13.1 is out :) [13:14] usually it took more [13:15] ive been meaning to ask about using paypal instead of credit card. now its too late but will ask for the future [13:15] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-169-254.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [13:17] please people someone help me i have problem with pppoe connection i'm bulgarian and my english is sucks :( [13:17] ne7work: what's wrong?? [13:17] please on private :( [13:17] Nick change: gart -> gartt [13:20] Guest22556 (~SuBmUnDo@208.98.61.45) joined ##slackware. [13:20] antlechrist (~andrew@cpe-65-27-196-252.cinci.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:20] Nick change: Guest22556 -> [D\E\A\D]SuBmUnD [13:21] Heya, i have installed slackware 13.1 but it does not load the system and instead keeps displaying me a grub command line onboot, i had centos on the HD but i have deleted all partitions and formated it, i have booted thru the cd and recrycled lilo, have tried changing lilo.conf and running lilo after as root and still no results... fdisk -l gives me sda1 and sdb1 with * but my master HD on bios is the linux one and i have removed every trace of the [13:21] Srbo (~Srbo@79.101.240.49) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:21] johndee (~id@95-29-177-156.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:21] howdy [13:21] you didnt install lilo to the mbr [13:22] sahko i installed it to the mbr and it gave me the same problem then i tried installing it to the root [13:22] same thign on both ways [13:22] whats the error? [13:22] it just doesnt load it and instead loads a grub command line [13:23] mcury (~mcury@189.24.9.91) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:23] Nick change: [D\E\A\D]SuBmUnD -> submundo [13:23] submundo (~SuBmUnDo@208.98.61.45) left irc: Changing host [13:23] submundo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) joined ##slackware. [13:23] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [13:23] Nick change: submundo -> SuBmUnDo [13:25] jomo (mich@p3EE21019.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left ##slackware. [13:27] theres some command to clear the mbr which i dont remember atm [13:27] i also tried to use the liloconfig to recycle it which didnt worked [13:28] does running lilo as root return any error? [13:28] although im pretty clueless about stuff like that [13:28] can you boot the install from the install disk and run lilo..or a command ? [13:29] sahko none [13:29] BaKonStrip_ (~BaKonStri@98.157.178.110) joined ##slackware. [13:29] bobbysbits that is what i am currently doing [13:30] ok [13:30] running it frm the cd using hugesmp.s root=/dev/sda1 rdinit= ro [13:30] yeah thats what i do [13:30] Teratogen (~blah@67.40.69.102) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:31] namedrisk: does lilo -v give you any errors? [13:31] did a lilo -v 5 -b /dev/sda [13:31] and it seems to have fixed it [13:32] yep seems fixed now [13:33] rebooting again just to make sure xD [13:34] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:34] yep working fine thx bobbysbits sahko :) [13:35] XGizzmo when i did the lilo -v 5 -b /dev/sda it didnt gave errors but did gave me 2 warnings which was not listed [13:38] chess (~chess@unaffiliated/chess) left irc: Quit: Darkness shrugs and bids the day goodbye [13:39] chess (~chess@unaffiliated/chess) joined ##slackware. [13:39] think i might reinstall and see if mysql likes me. :) [13:39] mysql doesn't like anybody .. it's like a grumpy old man. ;) [13:40] think so BP{k} ..im not it favorite user, i know that [13:41] postgresql seems friendly enough :P [13:42] Action: namedrisk likes postgresql ... it is like a soccer buddy that pays yours beer [13:42] Aidar-Nagato (admin@81.30.177.243.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. [13:43] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [13:45] Zozma (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [13:47] antlechrist (andrew@cpe-65-27-196-252.cinci.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [13:47] namedrisk: that seems you still have to go outside and face the daystar and do physical stuff for a while ;) [13:47] it is healthy >__> [13:48] unless youre scared of becoming ashes due to the sun light [13:50] hell yes, aren't you? [13:50] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:51] I've heard stories of that thing.. I try to avoid light whenever possible [13:51] *g* [13:51] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@200.63.199.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:52] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [13:52] good evening folks :) [13:52] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [13:53] Action: namedrisk shows BP{k} a big stake and put him in despair... [13:53] Heya mancha o/ [13:53] mancha heya :) [13:53] evening mancha :) [13:53] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:55] please someone help me on private for pppoe connect :( [13:55] please :( [13:56] alphad (~alphad@41.66.5.47) joined ##slackware. [13:57] sorry, i'm not familiar with pppoe [13:58] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:58] are you use rp-pppoe? [13:59] ne7work: along with ang, I'm not familiar with pppose either. You were in here yesterday with the same issue if I recall correctly? [13:59] what is this? [13:59] rp-pppoe [13:59] ne7work: try the mailing list http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rp-pppoe [14:00] ne7work: http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.1/slackware/n/rp-pppoe-3.10-i486-1.txt [14:00] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:01] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [14:01] estranho (estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [14:01] Drakevr (drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left ##slackware. [14:02] Slacking_Man (~Slacking_@pm1dialin-21.danbbs.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:04] lmao2k (~nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: [14:05] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:06] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@208.98.61.45) joined ##slackware. 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[14:15] namedrisk: look for DHCP[0]=yes or similar [14:16] could be [1] depending on how many cards you have [14:16] yeah that is it thx [14:16] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [14:16] Am I the only one having lockups when I use my wireless in 13.1? Google isn't much help. [14:17] namedrisk: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 looks in rc.inet1.conf to see if any interfaces should use dhcp [14:17] ang thx, Dominian pointed that out for me :) [14:18] BaKonStrip_ : no [14:18] sh resume.sh [14:18] BaKonStrip_: considering that 13.1 just came out.. I doubt Google is going to have much [14:18] yup, Dominian [14:19] Is there a work around for the lockups? [14:19] I seem to have had a crash in superblock - I have instructions for recovery in ext2 but nothing for ext4 - is this going to end in a reinstall anyway or should I try recovery [14:20] if you can live w.o recovery i'd say start over [14:21] see if you can fsck it and use an alternate superblock [14:21] i tried that but may have thewrong syntax - my books are old [14:22] Nick change: BaKonStrip_ -> BaKonStrip [14:25] fsck -f -b 16385 /dev/hda1 gives error 'fsck.ext4: not found' [14:26] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:26] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [14:28] gem_cat: broken superblock? [14:28] most probly - had a lightning strike [14:29] gem_cat: try, mkfs.ext2 -S /dev/hda1 [14:29] ok [14:29] namedrisk (~namedrisk@201.80.208.20) left irc: Quit: Die another day ! ! ! [14:29] it writes a new superblock and set of group descriptors [14:29] the man page has further info [14:30] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-hcsdsxvzurenswpg) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:30] danix (~danix@host37-62-dynamic.49-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [14:31] did something NthDegree [14:31] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) left irc: [14:34] gem_cat: now use fsck and then try mounting it [14:34] unable to mount root fs on unknown block(3,1) [14:34] Nick change: Roin -> afk|Roin [14:34] ok [14:34] yeah, you'll probably never get it booting [14:35] that option might only let you grab a few files if you have anything you desperately want to keep [14:35] that will help -thanks [14:45] danix (~danix@host37-62-dynamic.49-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:46] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [14:47] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:49] what are the downsides to running a os from a usb stick? [14:49] can a usb stick cause random read / write errors? [14:49] Yes [14:49] eeeeek [14:49] And USB isn't exactly fast [14:50] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@200.63.199.99) joined ##slackware. [14:50] straterra: if im booting a os from a usb stick, would it be a better idea to boot it from something like this [14:50] Something like what? [14:50] http://www.amazon.co.uk/External-Drive-Portable-Pocket-Micro/dp/B002XGWZVQ [14:51] Or just get a device that isn't crap [14:51] A thumb drive, that is [14:51] straterra: what kind of thumb drive? [14:51] Any name brand one [14:51] corsair, sandisk, kingston [14:52] straterra: is a thumb drive a usb flash drive? [14:52] Yes. [14:52] i thought you said its not a good idea booting a os from those? [14:52] I didn't say that. A faulty thumb drive can cause read/write errors [14:52] right [14:52] So..if you have a faulty one..get one that isn't faulty [14:53] are thumb drives slow, compared to a small 1.8" hd [14:53] Depends on which one you buy, but they can be the same speed [14:53] ice [14:53] nice [14:53] any of those usb drives will wear out before a real hard disk would [14:53] Urchlay: thats what i thought [14:53] Urchlay: Depends on work load [14:54] each bit in the flash is rated for some number of writes (should be in the specs of the device) [14:54] otherwise everybody would be using usb thumb drives at home on desktops etc [14:54] dustybin: no they wouldn't [14:54] Spinning disk is usually cheaper [14:54] But also larger in physical size [14:54] alicephilippa (alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:55] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:57] ShideR (~shider@186.58.173.96) joined ##slackware. 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[15:33] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:33] craytoon (~craytoon@65.103.249.182) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:34] lmao2k (~nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:35] thanks again NthDegree - I am reformatting now [15:36] you're welcome ^^ [15:36] BP{k}: ace LD [15:36] gem_cat (GEM@207-119-10-149.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware ("Fades out Slowly"). [15:37] straterra (straterra@2001:470:8a81::4) left ##slackware. [15:37] craytoon (~craytoon@65.103.249.182) joined ##slackware. [15:39] dustybin: did you say you were messing around with one of then jogglers? [15:39] is that how they call it these days? [15:39] BP{k}: yes i got mythtv frontend working on it last night, its a bit of a hackish dodgy debian squeeze install, im going to do it properly using slackware [15:40] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5505251/frontend.JPG [15:40] mancha: http://yourfamily.o2.co.uk/o2familyjoggler/ [15:41] heh [15:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O2_Joggler <-- has the specs :) [15:43] http://jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Main_Page [15:44] dustybin: thanks :) [15:45] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-75-109.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:46] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-18-36.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:46] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [15:47] does anyone know the significant changes in the libpng api? trying to decide if the u/g is worth it [15:47] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426796.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [15:48] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426796.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[16:12] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [16:16] ajna (~ajna@68.235.238.7) joined ##slackware. [16:16] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [16:16] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [16:17] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-75-109.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:17] pattwo (~pattwo@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [16:17] mancha: did you cause a disturbance in the force? [16:18] Hello. Wondering if anyone knows if the build scripts on Slackbuilds have been updated for 13.1 yet. 13.1 scripts are listed on Slackbuilds, but a number of them - to many to alter them all for myself - fail because of differences between .0 and .1 [16:18] Gone back to 13.0 on my systems. Would hate to install 13.1 again only to find the issues still in place and another regression needed. [16:19] Lost my fist line. Should read: Does anyone know if the scripts.... [16:19] Urgleflogue (~plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [16:20] ajna: Most of the build scripts on SBo should be pretty close to ready out of the box if they worked on 13.0 [16:21] The one that most concerns me is ndiswrapper for my laptop. Blender also has issues. Trying to avoid going through and altering them all myself. I use a lot of slackbuids. [16:21] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [16:22] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [16:22] Action: nachox hugs sally [16:23] NightTiger (~derekm@ottawa-hs-64-26-171-99.s-ip.magma.ca) joined ##slackware. [16:23] I think I'm just going to install and make the best of it. Much less work to alter scripts than to upgrade the packages on a clean 13.0 at this point. [16:24] eviljames - thanks for responding. [16:24] One more thing. Does anyone have any release date info for the long advertised Slackbook 3.0? [16:25] heh, it's being worked on :P [16:25] nachox! [16:25] ajna: And, as with all things Slackware "When it's ready" [16:25] true eviljames [16:26] truely evil, james [16:26] how are you doing sally? it's been a long while [16:27] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:27] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [16:28] doing great, nachox. How about you? [16:28] doing fine, working like hell but doing fine :) [16:29] :) can't gripe at that, these days [16:30] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [16:31] Grettings Programs! [16:31] er Greetings [16:33] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [16:33] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [16:33] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [16:33] [1]Korp (~Korp@host105-16-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:33] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:34] dios_mio (test@78.179.79.66) joined ##slackware. [16:34] is 61 degrees celcius on CPU too high? or normal? [16:34] uhhh it depends on your box [16:34] its a dual core laptop [16:34] so? what range does it give [16:35] good question :P [16:35] normally they give a critical / high value [16:35] sometimes both [16:35] Urgleflogue (~plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [16:35] I'm looking for a plug-and-play solution to access my main box's disks over the network from my laptop. I need this to work from dolphin. so I've set up samba, works well, is plug'n'play, but if I try to play a movie from the network, the movie gets copied to the laptop first (which is a LONG time on wifi). [16:35] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:35] raela, you impress me with your technical knowledge.. i thought girlz only knew about dolls and phoning skillz [16:35] 61 doesn't sound bad. but it is chip dependent. [16:36] my laptop is right now running at 39C / 47.1C (I should probably figure out what each temp is). highest core on workstation is 53C.. but it's cold up here today [16:36] I know sshfs can stream files. maybe I should look at NFS? [16:36] raela j/k :P [16:36] <[1]Korp> it's from the last 3 days, that i'm trying to setup internet connection in Slackware, but with no success. I've tried looking into a lot of forums, but their solutions are not working for me [16:36] dios_mio: too bad I always ripped my dolls apart :/ barbie goes to the barbershop (for torture). I played with horses kthx [16:36] raela, you are bad :P [16:37] dios_mio: but um.. I really don't have that much technical knowledge. it's pretty basic [16:37] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [16:37] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [16:37] [1]Korp, how do you connect to the internet? [16:37] <[1]Korp> i've a strange problem [16:37] bobbysbits (~bobby@212.183.140.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [16:38] <[1]Korp> i've used netconfig to setup connection and provided as my IP = 192.168.1.2, gateway=192.168.1.1, static connection [16:38] craytoon (craytoon@65.103.249.182) left ##slackware. [16:38] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [16:38] <[1]Korp> i've a realtek network card if that matters [16:38] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [16:38] dhabyxc (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [16:39] what doesn't work? [16:39] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:39] <[1]Korp> now i'll try to explain it well [16:39] i am following these instructions [16:39] http://slackworld.berlios.de/2007/chroot_howto.html [16:40] installpkg -root /mnt/chroot a/*.tgz <- this does not work, anybody know the correct shell command? [16:40] i have cd'd into the source director [16:41] oh im in wrong dir [16:41] <[1]Korp> my problem is that i'm able to ping a lot of websites(not all), but no webbrowser is able to browse to that site [16:42] <[1]Korp> i'm able to ping google.com, but when i go to google from firefox or konqueror, i get the textbox and the 2 buttons [16:42] <[1]Korp> and i'm unable to do any searchs [16:42] remove your firefox profile [16:43] <[1]Korp> other sites doesn't even show up, but i get the favicon and title [16:43] if you use a home router, update it's firmware [16:44] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [16:44] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [16:45] # installpkg -root /tmp/joggler a/*.tgz [16:45] Cannot install a/gzip-1.3.12-i486-1.tgz: external compression utility gzip missing [16:45] Srbo (~Srbo@79.101.240.49) joined ##slackware. [16:45] gzip is installed! [16:45] GArik (~wesnoth@89-179-109-181.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [16:46] nannes (nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left ##slackware. [16:46] [1]Korp, can you open them in say lynx/links ? [16:47] <[1]Korp> @slava_dp, it's an ISP given router [16:47] delt0r (~delt0r@greg.cibiv.univie.ac.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:49] namedrisk (~namedrisk@201.80.208.20) joined ##slackware. [16:49] slackytude (~slacky@g227067117.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [16:49] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:49] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [16:49] <[1]Korp> btw it works fine in Ubuntu [16:50] has anyone experienced with samba not updating the folder content when you upload or delete a file from it ? [16:51] namedrisk, if you use graphical browser like conqueror/dolphin you might need to refresh (F5) ? [16:51] it should not but i am brownsing from a windows pc [16:51] namedrisk: on the server or client [16:51] client [16:52] namedrisk: try creating a new folder on it [16:52] and watch what happens [16:52] namedrisk, will the changed content show up if you force refresh? [16:52] nothing at the very fisrt momment [16:52] hmm [16:52] yes it will if i F5 [16:52] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [16:52] same goes for the new folder u asked me to create [16:52] anybody figure out why im getting these errors: [16:52] http://paste.debian.net/76797/plain/76797 [16:53] gzip is installed! [16:53] oh its not [16:53] eeek [16:54] Action: slava_dp lols [16:54] i can tab gzip but it doesnt work [16:54] i thought gzip would be installed with a full slackware install [16:54] mm let me see that [16:54] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [16:55] mine works fine [16:55] fresh 13.1 install [16:55] eeek [16:55] what happened [16:55] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [16:55] or atleast i can gzip --help [16:55] root@server:~# which gzip [16:55] /bin/gzip [16:55] namedrisk, I observe the same problem with NFS, but I do not know what to do about it. I just instructed the users to refresh when in doubt [16:55] root@server:~# gzip [16:55] bash: /bin/gzip: No such file or directory [16:55] o_0 [16:56] LuzbeLL (~siciliano@85.219.28.214.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [16:56] LuzbeLL (siciliano@85.219.28.214.dyn.user.ono.com) left ##slackware. [16:56] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 76100 Feb 9 18:38 /bin/gzip [16:56] maybe ive been r00ted :-S [16:56] Urgleflogue that is very very very odd, i had centos 5 with the same samba setup and it was working like a champ on ntfs-3g hd, and now it is not >___> [16:56] i guess linux just dont like me after all [16:57] always putting stones on my way lol [16:57] digicyc (aaron@ip65-44-116-185.z116-44-65.customer.algx.net) left ##slackware. [16:59] [1]Korp (~Korp@host105-16-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- \o/ [16:59] namedrisk, I am not sure if it is a browser issue, because in consoles (ls, dir) the content is consistent. It's just in the graphical interfaces that it will not show up for some reason [16:59] Urgleflogue well i am sure there is something to it ... otherwise it would not be working on the other disto i had installed [17:00] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [17:00] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [17:01] namedrisk, probably something to do with notifications... but I really am no expert here, so I do not know.. [17:02] yeah thanks a lot anyway :) i am on the samba chan trying to figure it out and googling and testing to see if i can get it fixed [17:02] maybe i will try an older version too [17:03] slackytude (~slacky@g227067117.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:04] tmkd (user-448@clients.shells.eofnet.lt) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:04] pattwo (~pattwo@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:05] Nick change: dhabyxc -> dhabyx [17:06] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [17:06] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. 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[17:15] evening slackers [17:15] rtcg (~justdizgu@mail.richardthecomputerguy.com) joined ##slackware. [17:15] s3r[] (~s3r]@190.213.44.77) joined ##slackware. [17:15] hi [17:15] slava_dp, :) no is at open [17:16] like: vim file.conf [17:16] he not show the content [17:17] this also appends with slackpkg [17:17] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [17:17] only restart solves the problem [17:17] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [17:18] How do I reload resolv.conf? Or do I need not reload it? [17:19] linus72 (~linus72@pool-72-86-58-24.clppva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:19] no [17:19] resolv.conf is consulted. not reloaded. I've never had to "flush dns" on my servers. [17:20] you can try restart your network [17:20] nice subtle windows flame, rtcg [17:20] I know, right? ahahah [17:21] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Quit: Don't look back, the lemmings are gaining on you. [17:21] Catch up with everyone later. bye. [17:21] ajna (ajna@68.235.238.7) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:21] jonsmith1982 (~jon@92.25.182.160) joined ##slackware. [17:22] Is there a way to generate the password hash used by shadow? I don't see the --stdin option for passwd on slackware's compiled version, and using slappasswd isn't proving effective. login.defshows MD5 is active..but I'm coming up blank. [17:22] slackytude (~slacky@g227067117.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [17:22] clarification: Generate the password hash via the command line [17:23] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [17:23] anyone in here happens to have experience with gcc warnings? "warning: visibility attribute not supported in this configuration" in particular? [17:23] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [17:24] dive (~diverse@cpc2-craw1-0-0-cust1275.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:25] pprkut: that's not gcc. it's either g++ or j++ [17:25] i.e. it's not plain C [17:26] well, gcc as in gnu compiler collection :) [17:26] no-o.. "gcc" as command stands for GNU C compiler [17:26] but okay [17:27] gcc.gnu.org disagrees [17:27] and j++ is microsoft's old reimplementation of java [17:27] (you wanted gcj) [17:28] (fwiw, you can also use "gcc -x c++" instead of g++) [17:28] I seriously doubt I 'wanted" it :P [17:28] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:28] rtcg, http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/078 [17:28] I will support jboss and tomcat at work because they write stuff in it, but I will never like it [17:28] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [17:28] pprkut: is that on Linux? [17:29] yes [17:29] banditman (~djt@92.14.52.241) joined ##slackware. [17:29] my x86_64 cross compiler spitsthat out and I'm trying to figure out why :/ [17:29] Cross compiling for SOlaris? [17:30] no, from i486 to x86_64 [17:30] pprkut: you can normally safely ignore that [17:30] (when you can't, quite a few people would consider that a bug in whatever you're compiling) [17:31] the thing is, the code compiles fine (wothout warnings) with the native slack64 compiler [17:31] and it did as well with the gcc-4.4.3 x86_64 cross compiler [17:31] but starting with 4.4.4 I get those warnings [17:32] dive (~diverse@cpc2-craw1-0-0-cust1275.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Don't look back, the lemmings are gaining on you. [17:32] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [17:32] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [17:33] namedrisk (~namedrisk@201.80.208.20) left irc: Quit: Die another day ! ! ! [17:33] fred: ignoring is pretty much also what google returns, unfortunately :/ [17:33] pnq (asdf@ACA246D0.ipt.aol.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [17:33] and stuff about the solaris linker, which I'm definitely not using [17:34] -fvisibility just gives you slightly smaller and faster binaries [17:34] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [17:34] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [17:36] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [17:36] fred: this is what I get with rekonq, which is according to google at least related to the visibility thing: http://pastebin.ca/1880032 [17:37] uhm wait, might be my mistake, since I'm contrary to what I thought not using -fPIC there [17:38] -fPIC is neccessary on all shared libraries on x86_64 [17:38] lack of visibility support will give you linker errors about duplicate symbols if someone's created two symbols with the same name, but set all but one (or all of them) to visibility=hidden [17:39] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:39] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [17:39] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [17:40] hmm, -fPIC didn't seem to help much, still same error [17:41] erm, was Qt build with -fPIC? [17:41] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:41] (or where did you get your Qt build from?) [17:42] pprkut: that error does mean rebuilding whatever's giving yo uthat error with -fPIC, it means rebuilding whatever it's trying to link against [17:42] slackware 13.1 supports bootsplash without kernel patch ? [17:43] danix (~danix@host37-62-dynamic.49-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:44] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:44] fred: I'm 100% certain my system is fine. As long as I compile it native on the machine I have no issues. Once I incude the cross compiler in the setup, stuff breaks [17:45] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [17:45] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [17:45] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:47] nvision (~nvision@g225053144.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [17:48] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [17:48] sure it's not trying to do something strange like link against your host 32-bit qt? [17:49] fred: it's an icecream setup, so yes I'm sure it doesn't [17:50] ah. [17:50] :( [17:50] Action: fred is out of ideas, sorry [17:50] yeah, figured as much, me too :( [17:50] banditman (~djt@92.14.52.241) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:50] v4nelle (~van@79.107.231.98) joined ##slackware. [17:51] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [17:51] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [17:54] Coolmax (~mateusz@ip-89-174-118-204.multimo.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:55] Coolmax89 (~mateusz@ip-89-174-118-68.multimo.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:56] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:56] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [17:56] I added the ipv6 module to my blacklist but it still shows up when I do a lsmod? Is this normal? [17:58] did you reboot? [17:58] nope [17:58] Coolmax (~mateusz@ip-89-174-118-204.multimo.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:58] I'm guessing I should :p [17:59] ice799 (ice799@67-23-10-49.static.slicehost.net) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.2"). [17:59] well, you can remove the module with rmmod as well [17:59] if its not in use [17:59] but blacklisting will not remove a already loaded module [18:00] it just stops it form getting loaded the next time [18:00] s/form/from [18:00] oh ok [18:00] I tried to use rmmod, it say's its in use [18:00] When I check the list in lsmod, it doesn't say what's using it [18:01] well, probably the network stuff. you could try to force it, but Id say a reboot is safer [18:01] botnet (~void@c-71-197-176-60.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[18:45] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [18:45] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [18:46] can someone running 13.1 open xfontsel and click on foundry... does altsys show up? [18:48] ang: yes [18:48] it's quite the funky font, too. weird [18:48] ok. i wouldn't know. my alpha crashes as soon as i select that foundry :) [18:49] it's very irregular and quirky. almost like handwriting, I guess [18:49] well, s/my alpha/X on my alpha/ [18:50] Kiboney (~Kiboney@cpe-72-227-159-249.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:50] Kiboney (~Kiboney@cpe-72-227-159-249.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:50] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [18:51] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [18:51] Kiboney (~Kiboney@cpe-72-227-159-249.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:52] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:53] Nick change: get -> Get|Off [18:53] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Quit: FSF Free Software Foundation [18:53] Nick change: Get|Off -> get [18:53] banditman (~djt@92.14.52.241) joined ##slackware. [18:53] does anything show up if you pick foundry=arabic? [18:55] rafu (rafu@77.53.11.107) left ##slackware. [18:55] mancha: 6 names match when i select it [18:56] 26552 total [18:56] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [18:56] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [18:57] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-161-200-8.range86-161.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [19:00] is acpi installed in the generic-smp kernel in 13.1? [19:00] i am pretty sure bandit. [19:01] nothings happening when I type acpi [19:01] "generic" tries to be as generic as possible and most people use acpi [19:01] heh? what do you want to have happen? [19:01] give battery state [19:01] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-65.fpscc.den.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [19:01] worked fine in arch [19:01] eh? [19:02] that sounds like a userspace application. maybe acpitools or summitz [19:02] kernel space and user space are not the same thing, grasshopper [19:02] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [19:02] hmm [19:02] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [19:02] bjx (~brendan@113-61-80-63.static.qld.dsl.net.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:03] BaKonStrip (BaKonStri@98.157.178.110) left ##slackware. [19:03] used to just type acpi in the console and it gives time remaining batt state etc [19:03] hrmm, should i repeat what i just said? [19:04] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-173-241-137.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [19:04] bjx (~brendan@113-61-80-63.static.qld.dsl.net.au) joined ##slackware. [19:05] banditman: go here, install this: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/acpi/ [19:05] er, or the one for 13.1 [19:05] nvision (~nvision@g225053144.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:06] thanks Urchlay thats more helpfull :) [19:07] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [19:07] your question was a bit confusing... "is acpi installed", well yes, the kernel does support acpi (is what mancha was telling you) [19:08] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [19:08] might be that the acpi command should be called something else, to avoid that (acpistats might be a better name) [19:11] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.73.145) joined ##slackware. [19:13] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [19:13] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. 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[20:15] dive: it probably dates back to the days of line printer terminals [20:15] good point [20:16] dive: not sure this is what you want but tput hpa 50 will put the cursor at row 50 [20:16] SiegeX, no, just want to know how many cols and rows there are [20:16] tput will tell you the # of cols of a certain term. he was wondering why it iddn't give rows [20:16] useful in scripts [20:17] slackytude|evil (~slacky@f052030198.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [20:17] yo slackytude|evil [20:17] actually I lied, that puts it at col 50 [20:17] there's a way to do it, using something like curses [20:17] but I dunno that there's an easily-callable command to use from a shell script [20:18] dive: bash has $LINES [20:18] eh, well, there's "stty -a" [20:18] first line of its output: speed 38400 baud; rows 63; columns 80; line = 0; [20:18] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [20:18] wouldn't you just divide the length of your output by the screen width [20:18] Urchlay, yeah [20:18] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [20:18] and it seems smart enough to track window size changes [20:19] and that will give you the number of rows plus a remainder [20:19] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:19] artaud_ (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. 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[20:26] alphad (~alphad@41.66.5.47) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:28] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:29] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [20:29] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [20:31] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [20:33] anyone know the cure for this (from Xorg.0.log): http://pastebin.com/QFPrnPLb [20:34] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:34] Nick change: x-ip -> x-ip--d-_-b [20:35] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [20:35] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [20:36] 'stty size' will return just 'ROWS COLS' [20:38] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Quit: "YAWN....\o/ SCRATCHY BALLS, SCRATCHY CHEST...SLOW STRIPTEASE....IN BED....ZZZZzzzz :P :D" [20:39] alphad (~alphad@41.66.5.47) joined ##slackware. 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[20:47] Vanger_ (~Vanger@80.91.178.197) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:47] really, that's all that should be needed; x-server built against hal, hal is loaded + running, and passes off the mouse/keyboard items to X, which will pull xf86-input-evdev [20:47] yes. i did not modify any switches from the stock slackbuilds [20:48] works fine on x86, so obviously i've missed some special order in compiling things [20:48] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.51.14) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:50] fuzzix (~fuzzix@93.107.86.67) joined ##slackware. [20:50] artaud_ (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:51] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [20:51] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [20:51] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. 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[20:59] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:59] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [21:00] does slackware come with a precaution against the fork bomb? [21:01] yes, inteligent users [21:01] =D [21:01] :P [21:02] dios_mio, isnt it kernel job? [21:02] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [21:02] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [21:06] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:06] guax, dont know really... [21:07] v4nelle (~van@79.107.231.98) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:07] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [21:08] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [21:09] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [21:09] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: nape time !! [21:10] Juance (~Juan@201.255.164.128) joined ##slackware. [21:10] Buenas! 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[21:19] Razec (~razec@187.34.20.159) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:23] dios_mio: no. and i'd be interested in how many other distros do [21:23] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: >_< PEBKAC, ID-10-T clicked the X ^_^ [21:24] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [21:24] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [21:24] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [21:29] livinded (~livinded@pool-173-55-27-237.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:29] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [21:29] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [21:30] I'm having trouble getting nfsd to start. I have a brand new slackware 13.1 install using the smp kernel and modules and when I try to start it up I get "FATAL: Error inserting nfsd (/lib/modules/2.6.33.4-smp/kernel/fs/nfsd/nfsd.ko): Invalid module format" [21:30] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-75-109.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:30] xchg_chrap (~lamer@ks20206.kimsufi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:31] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:31] xchg_chrap (~lamer@ks20206.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [21:31] kslen^^ (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [21:31] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:32] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:35] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [21:35] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [21:35] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [21:35] livinded: are you using the huge kernel? nfsd support is compiled in i believe [21:35] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-75-109.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:35] ang: ya [21:35] pupiteee (~p@79.101.70.55) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:36] I never setup a generic [21:36] check the comments in rc.nfsd .... there are a few lines to comment out if you are using a kernel that has the nfsd support build in [21:37] crv (~Caio@unaffiliated/crv) joined ##slackware. [21:38] crv (Caio@unaffiliated/crv) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [21:39] thanks [21:39] seems to be working [21:40] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [21:40] np [21:40] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. 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[21:52] _S4MUR4I_ (~S4MUR4I@187.40.76.8) joined ##slackware. [21:54] Juance (Juan@201.255.164.128) left ##slackware ("Saliendo"). [21:55] goj (~goj@p5488FC64.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:55] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:56] What's better way to migrate from 12.1 to 13.1? [21:57] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [21:57] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [21:58] Necrosporus, Better than what? [21:59] from 12.1 to 12.2, then 12.2 to 13.0, then 13.0 to 13.1 [21:59] or just backup /home and /etc, and install 13.1 directly. [21:59] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:01] rworkman: ping [22:02] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [22:02] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [22:04] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:04] estranho (estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:05] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [22:07] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [22:08] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [22:10] nachox (~Ignacio@201.216.213.17) joined ##slackware. [22:10] thumbs, it would really uncomfy [22:10] can someone on 13.1 open an xterm, type "reset" and test the backspace key? [22:11] Also I doubt it would work better than direct 12.1 => 13.1 [22:13] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [22:13] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [22:14] Necrosporus, i would recomend a fresh install from 12.1 to 13.1 [22:14] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:14] way better [22:14] mancha: works here [22:14] mancha: on opening xterm, backspace gives ^H, after reset backspace works [22:14] my xterm is fine [22:15] my backspace works before and after reset [22:15] same as raela [22:15] BP{k} wow, so we're backwards. when i open it is works, after reset i get ^H [22:15] switching positions, naughty [22:15] and i don't know why guax and raela work [22:15] keeps thinkings interesting? [22:16] well I'm on 32 bit, nothing special.. using zsh [22:16] 32bit using bash [22:16] guax, yep, but how to transfer setting so? [22:17] pupiteee (~p@178.223.7.127) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:17] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [22:18] Necrosporus, usually what matters is on your /home and just there [22:18] besides kde transition you will have no problems [22:18] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:18] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [22:18] guax, I'd like to save KDE3.5 [22:18] Necrosporus, and sometimes a fresh start gives you a hint what is really usefull and whats not =P [22:19] Necrosporus, then you cant go 13.1 [22:19] KDE4 is not production ready I suppose [22:19] im using it since 4.2 now and im satisfied [22:19] 4.4 is way better then the other 4.x releases [22:19] well, i fixed it! :) [22:19] 4.2 is terrible compared to KDE3 [22:20] BP{k} if you weren [22:20] I tried Slackware 13.0 [22:20] BP{k} if you weren't shitting me, i can help you fix yours [22:20] used to agreed, but now im fine with 4.4 [22:20] on -current tough [22:20] Also I tried Kubuntu 10.04 and KDE wasn't much better [22:20] kubuntu cant be used as reference [22:21] if you disable the kwin effects things works really fast and reliable [22:21] and you can aways switch to xfce [22:21] or the pure awesomeness of init 3 =P [22:22] livinded (~livinded@pool-173-55-27-237.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: livinded [22:22] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:22] that ruins watching my hd movies and tv shows =[ [22:22] mancha: I wasn't but meh. I don't use xterm anyway [22:22] OK. let me know if you want to fix it. [22:23] Slackware 13.1 freezes on trying to set up timer as Virtual Wire IRQ [22:23] Within QEMU [22:23] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [22:23] What am I doing wrong? [22:24] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [22:24] guax, how to make panel 2 line like in 3.5? [22:24] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [22:24] I found it is not obvious [22:24] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-68-171-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [22:25] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [22:25] Necrosporus, http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/7674/slackwarecurrent.png [22:26] this is my desktop [22:26] purty [22:27] Also, I dislike KDE4 default styles, it resembles me Vista [22:28] i usually ignore them [22:29] most of what i do is keyboard shortcuts, so the "user friendly" kde just disappear to me [22:29] guax, looks not so bad, but there is too small K menu icon [22:29] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [22:29] i would made them smaller if i could [22:29] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [22:30] going sleep now [22:30] see ya [22:30] Anyway, I'd prefer KDE3 style, for me it looks like better than gnome, vista, xp, kde4... [22:30] redmond98 [22:31] pupiteee (~p@109.93.93.176) joined ##slackware. [22:32] thats cause you use windows too. if you didnt it'd just look better [22:32] Ubuntu 10.04 looks also pretty good, but KDE3 elements style I like more than others [22:32] sahko, I don't use windows in home [22:32] raela, can you do another test? [22:33] i didnt say home/job/countryhouse [22:33] But I had a laptop with windows vista for a week [22:33] pnq (asdf@AC81C3F5.ipt.aol.com) joined ##slackware. [22:33] It was worst my user experience ever [22:33] mancha: sure [22:34] Since that, I hate Vista theme and anything resembles it, like windows 7, kde4 [22:34] My first problem with ubuntu 10.04 was the color scheme [22:34] teype telnet, then at the > promp type some stuff and then press backspace [22:34] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:34] mancha: in xterm? [22:35] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [22:35] ohhh, in xterm it does ^H [22:35] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [22:35] Action: NaCl wonders why the default ubuntu term is purple [22:35] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [22:35] raela, yep, here too [22:37] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:38] slackytude|evil (~slacky@f052030198.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:40] NaCl: the gtk theme is nice imo. both dark and light. purple i dont know.its sufficiently dark to work with imo. transparency in terminal is gay [22:40] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [22:40] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [22:40] sahko: I love false transparency in my terms, but I use dark backgrounds [22:41] procyonlabs (~randy@pool-173-69-175-97.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: I'm outta heeere... [22:42] Go FLYERS!!! [22:42] go inspector gadget [22:43] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-65.fpscc.den.wayport.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:44] gem_cat (~GEM@207-119-10-149.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [22:44] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:44] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [22:45] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-65.fpscc.den.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [22:45] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:46] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [22:46] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [22:46] I have reinstalled my software but now when I try to connect I am pulling an invalid ip address - how can that even happen? [22:47] yes I edited those 4 cfg files - but I must have missed something [22:48] nachox (~Ignacio@201.216.213.17) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:48] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.86.45) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:49] wireless connection using wicd/inet/wpa_supplicant/etc [22:50] obviously the ip is comming from somewhere but it does not match the router so it will not route :( [22:52] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [22:52] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [22:52] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [22:54] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:55] I will figure it out - this has not been a good week [22:57] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [22:57] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [22:57] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-68-171-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:57] sahko: I switched it to gray on black [22:58] gem_cat (GEM@207-119-10-149.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware ("Fades out Slowly"). [22:58] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [22:59] rtcg (justdizgu@mail.richardthecomputerguy.com) left ##slackware. [23:02] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [23:02] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [23:03] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:07] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [23:07] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [23:08] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [23:09] foxmulder881 (~foxmulder@202.172.125.214) joined ##slackware. [23:09] Can someone answer a quick question for me? [23:10] ask [23:10] then we will know ourselves [23:10] Blackhawks win the Stanley Cup [23:10] bastards [23:11] I've never used Slack before and I'm curious to try out 13.1. Does Slack automatically detect Windows XP SP3 and configure grub/ if I dual-boot? [23:11] slackware doesn't use grub [23:11] it uses lilo and I'm pretty sure you have to tell it yourself [23:11] .... ever use linux before foxmulder881? [23:11] lilo then? [23:12] Yes, Ubuntu veteran. [23:12] Debian also. [23:12] gotcha [23:12] oO [23:12] nah, Slackware is definitely a Do-It-Yourself distro [23:12] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:12] ubuntu veteran... lol [23:12] Use Ubuntu, learn Ubuntu. Use Slackware, learn Linux. [23:13] ^^ [23:13] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [23:13] I've used sidux, opensuse, fedora, red-hat also. Does that help?? [23:13] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [23:13] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [23:14] no [23:14] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-116-151.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:14] apparently not . :) [23:14] Alrighty, I guess I'll give Slack a miss then! [23:14] Thanks for nothing. [23:14] i'm assuming sidux is rpm based [23:14] foxmulder881: buh-bye! [23:15] rofl [23:15] For the record sidux is not rpm based but rather deb. [23:15] foxmulder881: we answered what you asked. ^^ [23:15] I know, thanks. ;-) [23:15] ah, so pretty much the same thing [23:15] heya,folks [23:15] MLanden: whats up? [23:15] foxmulder881 (foxmulder@202.172.125.214) left ##slackware. [23:15] heya,stinky [23:15] ah, the trolls are ouy. [23:16] thumbs: but thumbs... :D [23:16] dios_mio (1000@78.179.79.66) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:16] yup, the "ubuntu veterans" are starting to troll the Slack channel... LOL [23:16] yeah [23:16] what does ubuntu veteran mean anyway... [23:16] pupiteee: dunno, does not compute [23:16] hahah [23:16] pupiteee, same thing as saying you're a Vista Vetern [23:17] heh asked his question then proudly exclaimed "i'm a ubuntu veteran"! [23:17] it's like a "Windows 7 Warrior" ! [23:17] hehe [23:17] "Does slackware automatically..." "NO!" [23:17] lol [23:18] this is for noobfarm.. [23:18] in most cases, "Does slackware..." "NO!" [23:18] veteran-farm [23:18] ubuntu veteran means.. i do not know please tell me how you install packages without a package manager? [23:18] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:18] frankd (1003@cpe-24-161-9-57.hvc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:19] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [23:19] spook: lol [23:19] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [23:19] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-2-94.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:19] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [23:19] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [23:19] Action: MrZhi is lazy, installed slapt-get [23:20] spook: "Can slackware..." "Yes!" [23:20] slapt-get breaks things if you use anything but the official packages [23:20] in most cases when i come here to see whats happening i end up laughing [23:20] spook: yeah i was joking [23:21] I use slapt-get to maintain everything that's install initially, but just compile everything else in /usr/local/ [23:22] and slackware is not hard at all, you just have to use a little more brain than to click with mouse [23:22] MrZhi: what is wrong with slackpkg? [23:22] a g729 on a mother***king cop [23:22] Yes, i prefer to edit text files. ^>^ [23:23] MrZhi: ... [23:23] Vanger_ (~Vanger@80.91.178.197) joined ##slackware. [23:24] stinky: nothing, just don't use it [23:24] Vanger__ (~Vanger@80.91.178.197) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:25] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [23:25] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [23:25] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [23:26] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:29] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [23:30] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:30] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [23:30] I'm trying to install google chrome. It won't launch. I get: [23:30] /opt/google/chrome/chrome: error while loading shared libraries: libnss3.so.1d: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [23:30] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [23:31] I'm confused because the file that the link is pointing to exists.... [23:31] I don't know much about this stuff. [23:31] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:32] twoshot_: one sec. let me check mine [23:32] twoshot_: in the meantime have you tried googling? [23:33] yeah [23:33] I found a site with some comments on people having the same problems, and still can't figure it out :/ [23:33] twoshot_: did you use the slackbuild? [23:33] stinky, yes [23:34] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [23:34] twoshot_: did you remove seamonkey? [23:35] that is a symlink to /usr/lib/seamonkey/libnss3.so* [23:35] yes [23:35] lib64 [23:35] I've tried changing it to other libnss3.so files. [23:36] the symlink is located in the same dir as chrome [23:36] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [23:36] locate libnss3.so returns what? [23:36] you build chrome from source? [23:36] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:36] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [23:37] built chrome from the source yes, using hte slackbuild [23:37] twoshot_: i do not use 64bit so kind of blindly leading here [23:37] slocate fine? [23:37] secure locate? [23:37] it's cool. blindly leading is better than none :) [23:37] locate works [23:37] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:37] I don't know. slocate was in some manual I read I think. maybe slackbook [23:37] using updatedb [23:37] twoshot_: locate is faster [23:38] mozilla-nss [23:38] pastebining it [23:38] I installed that just now Watanuki [23:38] didn't fix it :/ [23:38] same thing except slocate is intended to allow certain user certain searches iirc [23:38] you may need to downgrade libjpeg [23:38] just use locate :) [23:39] http://pastebin.com/3rVpjrEc [23:39] I did use locate :) [23:39] did not delete seamonkey either [23:39] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Quit: There had better be some beer left when I get back! [23:39] how would libjpeg be related? [23:40] it doesn't yet [23:40] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:40] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:40] fix the nss problem 1st [23:40] twoshot_: and the symlink in /opt/google/chrome points to /usr/lib64/seamonkey-2.0.4/libnss3.so ? [23:40] Watanuki, oh. fun [23:40] I did change it to that at one point, yes [23:40] did not work [23:40] twoshot_: ls -l /opt/google/chrome/ [23:40] twoshot_: oh okay [23:41] i think chrome looks for nss at /usr/lib/ [23:41] Action: Watanuki shrugsd [23:41] i had no issues on 32bit with nss [23:41] only on 64 bit [23:41] libnss3.so.1d -> /usr/lib/seamonkey/libnss3.so for me [23:41] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:41] 32bit [23:41] oh I just deleted it [23:41] lol [23:41] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [23:41] it's gone currently [23:41] reinstall it [23:41] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [23:42] rebuild? [23:42] I built and installed as root. [23:42] hey, how is google chrome perform in slack? [23:42] running different user [23:42] is that an issue? [23:42] chrome works fine [23:42] better than ff [23:42] ? [23:42] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@168-103-63-219.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:42] you'll have to build it from source [23:43] pupiteee: has it's perks [23:43] pupiteee: not as many addons for it yet though [23:43] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [23:43] i use chrome over ff now [23:43] on um windows atleast [23:44] i would use chrome more if it had no-script plugin [23:44] yeah, lacks too many addons for me. [23:44] for quick browsing it's good though [23:44] if i install chrome, it need no-script, addblock, xmarks etc... [23:44] ElectRo`: you [23:45] yup* :) [23:45] scripts don't bother me [23:46] you bother them :) [23:46] besides,FF 4.0 is supposed to be awesome/ [23:46] I don't see why it would say it can't find the file or shared library if the file exists.... [23:46] I lsed it [23:46] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:46] twoshot_: maybe chrome is looking for it at /usr/lib/ instead of /usr/lib64 [23:46] twoshot_: try copying the file to the chrome directory [23:47] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [23:47] twoshot_: and rename it to libnss3.so.1d [23:47] ok. I'm obviously understanding these symlinks wrong. [23:47] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [23:47] so it would see, [23:47] seem [23:47] pupiteee: there are a couple of adblock plugins and xmark [23:47] It's my understanding that chrome looks at /opt/google/chrome/ [23:47] and then follows the links to find the files...... [23:47] What's wrong with that reasoning? [23:47] it should [23:48] ok... then why would it be looking in a different directory? [23:48] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:49] Action: Watanuki shrugs [23:49] Action: twoshot_ is confused [23:49] you'll figure it out eventually [23:49] or give up [23:49] haha [23:50] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [23:50] Chrome is good [23:50] is there a better way to rename files than rename? [23:50] but FF is still better to use on slackware [23:50] jailbox (~laj2@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:51] twoshot_: google linux symlinks if you don't understand them [23:51] ok [23:52] was your slackbuild of chrome the binary or the source? [23:52] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [23:52] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [23:52] source [23:52] no [23:52] um [23:52] .deb [23:53] from slackbuilds.org? [23:53] yeah [23:53] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:53] binary i believe [23:53] hm [23:53] you may have an issue with libjpeg [23:53] as well after you fix nss [23:53] that wouldn't fix the current issue though would it? [23:53] oh ok [23:53] is there a diff slackbuild I could use? [23:53] I only saw the one I used. [23:53] google [23:54] or just get the source and build it yourself [23:54] Action: Watanuki shrugs [23:54] make your own slackbuild :P [23:54] if I get the source and build it myself I'd need to make my own slackbuild right? [23:54] Do you think that would fix the nss errors? [23:54] no [23:54] darn [23:54] lol [23:54] you could build it the old fashion way [23:55] twoshot_: doing what i said might though [23:55] no to the 1st question [23:55] yeah I'm about to move the file over from the seamonkey directory [23:55] it could fix the nss issue [23:55] ah ok [23:55] twoshot_: don't move it ^^ [23:55] cp it [23:55] I know :) [23:55] cp not mv [23:56] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [23:57] :(. same error [23:57] ugh [23:57] you named it correctly> [23:57] ? [23:57] libnss3.so.1d [23:57] libnss3.so.1d [23:57] yeah [23:57] It's not a symlink... [23:57] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [23:57] strange [23:58] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [23:58] try one from the firefox directory instead of seamonkey possibly [23:58] it hates you [23:58] i'm at a loss here, as i don't use 64 bit [23:58] maybe cp it to /usr/lib/ [23:59] also did you build the correct chrome [23:59] Watanuki, what do you mean? [23:59] 64 vs. 32? yes [23:59] did you edit the slackbuild [23:59] Watanuki, lib or lib64 [23:59] ARCH=${ARCH:-i386} [00:00] --- Thu Jun 10 2010