[00:00] mesa_booger: I know it does, but it's just another trend followed by mindless drones that shouldn't have access to technology, so it never hurts to try to assist in ending the trend [00:00] acidchild: smack [00:00] acidchild: where you been boyee? [00:00] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:02] ezr (n=jpb@97-80-124-147.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:02] mfillpot: so by indulging impure impulses, you are cleansing both yourself and all of humanity. cool [00:03] Dominian: busy with life [00:03] mesa_booger: exactly [00:03] =o [00:03] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:04] mfillpot: twitter is good for companies and podcasters and other small non-profit types. [00:05] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:05] mrselfpwn: I am talking about the people that have to use facebook, myspace and twitter to announce every stupid little thing that happens to them, they should be banned from all forms of technology. [00:05] acidchild: same [00:05] acidchild: how's the bizness? [00:06] johny-b-goode (n=bobby@adsl-76-249-229-245.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:08] mfillpot: then what would you have to complain about? [00:08] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:08] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [00:09] mrselfpwn: I can always find something, human stupidity gives me many targets [00:10] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "Leaving" [00:10] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:12] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:15] has anyone here seen a movie called "The Mechs"? [00:15] sorry, just "Mechs" [00:21] nope [00:21] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [00:21] any link [00:22] no, I'm trying to figure out what it is. There's "La Mecha" on imdb but I don't think that's it. [00:22] I'm looking through a list of film titles that I can pick from, to write a paper on [00:23] nooper_ (n=nooper@unaffiliated/nooper) joined ##slackware. [00:23] ah [00:23] yeah, it's frustrating [00:23] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [00:24] for example, there are multiple Godzilla films, but the instructor does not specify which Godzilla he is referring to in his list. [00:25] there's Godzilla vs. Mecha Godzilla [00:26] yeah, there's a ton dude [00:26] there's even the crappy new-ish remake [00:26] man that sucked [00:26] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [00:27] This is funny: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Godzilla_vs_Mechagodzilla_1974.jpg [00:27] and http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cc/Mechagodzilla.jpg [00:28] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:29] looks like he's about to start dancing [00:29] nooper (n=nooper@unaffiliated/nooper) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:30] hey is megavideo down [00:31] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:33] and its back after 20 min [00:34] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:37] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:38] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [00:38] yo slackers [00:38] yo yo [00:39] yo yo ma - good cellist [00:39] sup [00:40] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [00:41] deco: I seen the noobfarm link you posted earlier. :P [00:42] phoenix^: yeah it was awesome :P [00:42] firedix (n=firedix@host195.201-252-177.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [00:42] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:42] ViN86 (n=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-ONE-SEVENTY-TWO.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [00:43] Balsaq (i=47a199f1@gateway/web/freenode/x-ukosdwqvqmxxxiba) joined ##slackware. [00:47] nooper_ (n=nooper@unaffiliated/nooper) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:49] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. 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[01:04] and im using a script someone else made [01:04] it says "Kernels not copied to the USB image", is that ok? [01:04] wubbster (n=wubbster@doc-24-206-157-137.kw.tx.cebridge.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:04] nille_ (i=1000@94.191.160.206.bredband.tre.se) joined ##slackware. [01:06] ViN86: I couldn't say; I didn't write the script. [01:06] doesn't sound OK though [01:06] godling: yea it didnt sound good to me either... [01:07] its a script that creates two partitions, one to boot, then another containing the slackware tree [01:07] it didnt say it was an error or anything... heh [01:07] wubbster (n=wubbster@doc-24-206-157-137.kw.tx.cebridge.net) joined ##slackware. [01:07] oh wait nvm [01:07] i didnt read the whole line [01:08] "Kernels not copied to the USB image: 'speakup.s' [01:08] so it just didnt copy one of them, ok [01:09] unless you're blind, you wont need speakup [01:09] what if i am... [01:09] giuppy (n=giuppy@host50-125-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:09] nah im not [01:11] anyone here have experience with clusters in slack? [01:11] err clusters in general... [01:11] I'm all about clusters. [01:11] Balsaq (i=47a199f1@gateway/web/freenode/x-ukosdwqvqmxxxiba) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [01:11] i just got two machines i would like to create a cluster with [01:11] low fat part of your healthy diet, son [01:12] aww damn... lol [01:12] preferably id like a 64-bit cluster i can run matlab with [01:12] ViN86: i've dealt with clusters. [01:12] but state of clustering at the moment is quite sad. [01:13] spook: any specific distro you use? or a different OS? [01:13] I have a long time ago. So I have forgotten it all. [01:13] my group just got two new machines, two core i7 950's each with 6GB ram [01:13] i got a gigabit router and i was hopin to create a cluster, found some good stuff online but most of it's from 2005 :/ [01:14] raela (i=1000@cpe-67-241-21-88.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:14] nille_ (i=1000@94.191.160.206.bredband.tre.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:14] ViN86: yeah..... if you can get 2.4.26 to run on those machines, you can setup an openmosix cluster [01:14] isn't openmosix dead? [01:14] 64-bit? [01:15] nooper (n=nooper@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:16] i guess it doesnt need to be 64-bit, but if it isnt then there's no way i am addressing all 6gb of ram [01:16] this video is *really* loud: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=45358688 [01:16] godling: no! linuxpmi ! [01:16] ViN86: unlikely. [01:17] purportedly that is a video of a slackware cluster [01:17] spook: ah, I see [01:17] spook: that's interesting [01:17] lot of documentation i find online has people using redhat [01:18] spook: of course you'd need some job control, eg "don't let these idiots run jobs on my machine" [01:18] "Oops - in order to view this, you will need to enable JavaScript and install Adobe Flash 10 or greater" [01:18] godling: its about trust really. [01:18] and here I'm watching hulu on another tab [01:18] alisonken1noc: yeah, myspace sucks balls [01:18] of course, this machine has Adobe Flash 9 installed [01:18] godling: only run a mosix cluster on a closed network [01:19] spook: I don't even trust my mother. ;P [01:19] godling: know your mother . .who would. ;) [01:19] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [01:20] BP{k}: I know your mother, for sure. [01:20] ViN86: in theory, with the hvm on the machines, you could run virtual machines with 2.4.26 with openmosix, split the ram and cpus between the machines [01:21] sounds complicated lol [01:21] So out of this list of ~180 science fiction film titles, I've seen all but 14 of them. :/ [01:22] ViN86: not really. [01:22] http://staff.aist.go.jp/d.g.fedorov/building1.html [01:22] they make it sound seem so easy there [01:24] spook: yea openmosix closed up shop [01:24] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:24] im sure there is support elsewhere and the packages are still on sourceforge [01:24] ViN86: linuxpmi :) but yeah all the code is still there [01:26] spook: both machines will be behind a router, is that secure enough? haha [01:27] just put them on their own vlan and use that for clustering [01:27] for compiling stuff just use distcc [01:27] ViN86: openmosix is now linuxpmi, more or less [01:27] so it seems [01:27] godling: i'm project leader of linuxpmi :) [01:28] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:28] spook: will you sign my tits? [01:28] no [01:28] :( [01:32] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) joined ##slackware. [01:33] godling: are they worth signing? :) [01:33] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:33] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:34] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:34] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [01:35] giuppy (n=giuppy@host50-125-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:35] giuppy (n=giuppy@host90-175-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:36] alisonken1noc: I'm probably sporting an AA cup at most. [01:36] ;) [01:36] not even that really [01:36] bigger than mine [01:37] do you lack a chest? [01:37] alisonken1noc: http://thesynopsis.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/nicholsondm0302_468x436.jpg [01:37] just about :) [01:37] hoho` (n=hooh@190.166.139.210) joined ##slackware. [01:37] well, I touch my chest and I feel bone :P [01:37] defintely more than mine [01:38] awesome my usb boot stick for slack64 works [01:38] to give you an idea, my nick in high school was 'scarecrow' [01:38] Nicholson doesn't need to look good to get laid, though. [01:38] doesn't matter - he has the dough [01:38] godling: theres really only me and our awesome coder who are actually working on linuxpmi regularily. plus 5-6 hangers-on that help out here and there [01:38] and he's the man [01:38] you forgot that [01:38] yes, you can see it in the picture alisonken1noc [01:39] (the dough, that is) [01:39] hah [01:40] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:41] alisonken1noc: I probably would have had a nickname in high school if I ever showed up. [01:41] spook: that sucks. so it's slow-moving? [01:42] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-171-242-27.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [01:43] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:43] godling: we're making progress, someone forward ported the 2.6.somethingold failed forward port done by original openmosix people, to 2.6.28, so we're getting closer [01:45] cool [01:45] Nick change: init[0] -> init[1] [01:45] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [01:46] Action: init[1] foof that was a long sleeep! [01:46] off to bed, bye everyone [01:46] ViN86 (n=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-ONE-SEVENTY-TWO.MIT.EDU) left irc: "Leaving" [01:46] spook: do you do any coding on the project? [01:46] adeodatus (n=rm@92.84.28.193) joined ##slackware. [01:47] not really no [01:47] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [01:50] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:51] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [01:54] alisonken1noc, you around? [01:54] TwinReverb: in and out [01:55] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-75-99.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [01:55] TwinReverb: can't you publish your *setting up public system* documention as your blog? [01:55] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:56] init[1], uh i can but i'm not doing it that way yet [02:03] wow,sshfs is really cool! [02:04] wubbster (n=wubbster@doc-24-206-157-137.kw.tx.cebridge.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:04] arggh i hate days they play with the fire alarm [02:07] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-171-242-27.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:07] frullet (n=hooch@124-171-242-27.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [02:08] jhw (n=jhw@84.143.123.32) joined ##slackware. [02:08] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [02:10] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A52E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:10] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:10] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [02:12] init[1]: yes it is [02:13] hi spook :) [02:13] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:13] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [02:14] how do you get the list of people in the channel in irssi ? [02:14] with good bandwidth we don't feel the difference ! [02:14] fhobia: /n [02:14] wow, ok, never would've guessed that one [02:14] thanks :-D [02:14] Masterx831 (n=masterx8@adsl-235-197-44.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:15] fhobia: yw [02:17] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-26-4.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [02:17] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [02:20] nixnix (n=mrspwnag@75-104-26-4.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. 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[02:30] y0 init[1] [02:30] Action: init[1] reminds me of 300 [02:30] fire|bird: aah :) , hope amarok help ya1 [02:30] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Connection timed out [02:31] init[1]: Yeah, I got ALL my album art downloaded now. xbmc cover flow looks excellent now with all the album art there. :) [02:31] :) [02:32] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-0-49.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:32] is there any email user form user.riseup.net? [02:32] nixnix (n=mrspwnag@75-104-26-4.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [02:32] xbmc continues to segfaults [02:33] adeodatus (n=rm@92.84.28.193) left irc: Client Quit [02:33] spook, what's the project? media set top box? [02:34] byteframe: google! [02:34] whats xbmc [02:34] spook: Mine still doesn't, but on the laptop, it won't start now due to a libmysqlclient.so.15 error. :/ [02:34] init[1], yahoo! [02:34] :D [02:35] Searching xmbc brings the xbox mediaplayer first in google. [02:35] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-26-4.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [02:35] mancha: It's a media center app for display videos, music, pictures, etc. [02:35] byteframe: because that's what it is. ;) XBOX Media Center. [02:35] ah cool, all-in-one? [02:35] yeah [02:35] fire|bird, I know. I was wondering about init[1]'s kneejerk response/ [02:36] nixnix (n=mrspwnag@75-104-26-4.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Success [02:36] The only media needs I have to fufill is streaming over samba, and I use geexbox and the Wii MplayerCe for that. [02:38] mancha: It also supports display Weather, RSS Feeds, etc. [02:38] superGear (n=supergea@65.113.15.181) left irc: "Leaving" [02:38] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-170-103-206.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. 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[02:48] morning [02:48] yo spook [02:48] yo slackytude [02:49] y0 spook, init[1], fire|bird [02:49] init[1]: it has been submitted, but not yet approved I assume [02:49] slackmagic: :), wonder how fire|fox and spook managed to install them [02:51] frullet (n=hooch@124-171-242-27.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [02:52] fire|bird: now outside of strace it still wont segfault, wtf. [02:52] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: ":)" [02:52] init[1]: its on the sbo mailing list [02:52] get this: customer has a 'hardware' vpn between 5 geographically separated sites (border routers handle the private connection. Customer has no access to the hardware; the carrier did the initial setup and changed the passwords to the consoles of the routers. No one knows the passwords or even has backup copies of the VPN certs. Carrier says they no longer support that setup and no longer have the documentation. [02:53] spook: ah,gonna subscribe it now ;) [02:54] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [02:54] init[1]: look at the archives :) [02:54] k:) [02:55] antiwire: great! [02:56] antiwire: that is going to be expensive [02:56] indeed [02:56] it's a mess [02:56] we need access to the routers and the vpn to add some new static routes [02:56] good luck with that [02:57] probably hard to do and illegal as well [02:58] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [02:58] antiwire: break key? [02:59] evanton (n=lol@unaffiliated/evanton) joined ##slackware. [03:00] I've looked into the routers themselves and the serial consoles all have changed passwords and the client says that the carrier is the one who is supposed to be managing them but the carrier says they aren't. it's classic [03:00] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@weirdbox.ddns.playtime.bg) joined ##slackware. [03:00] iotop doesn't work with default kernel in Slackware 13.0 : http://dpaste.com/104788/ Is recompiling the kernel the only way to make it work? [03:00] fire|bird: so how is xbmc working for ya? or when it was working? [03:00] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@weirdbox.ddns.playtime.bg) left ##slackware. [03:01] evan, iotop needs a few things included in the colonel, not sure if theyre in the stock 13 one [03:01] mancha: it looks like they are not. It used to work for me in Slackware 12.2, but I was using a custom compiled kernel then [03:01] check to see if you have thwe task io accounting stuff [03:02] antiwire: clusterfuck. [03:02] zgrep TASK_ /proc/config.gz or summit [03:02] evanton: yes. [03:03] evanton: its in the kernel hacks section, iirc [03:03] maybe there are any other tools that could do the same and would work with the stock kernel? [03:04] not in that same way though [03:04] iostat gives the io statistics, not per process though [03:04] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "Leaving" [03:04] slackmagic: It's working great on the desktop, but it's not working atm on the laptop. [03:05] y0 slackytude [03:05] ok, thanks for the pointers [03:05] spook: haha, it *won't* segfault now. I'm guessing nothing has changed, it just started working, eh? :P [03:08] Nick change: notKlaatu -> notKlaatuZZZ [03:08] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [03:08] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-170-103-206.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:09] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-103-206.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [03:09] evanton (n=lol@unaffiliated/evanton) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:11] High_Priest (n=MMF@nat/ibm/x-eazdzhtuprvuuhyf) joined ##slackware. [03:11] hi [03:11] hi [03:11] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.161.195) joined ##slackware. [03:11] hi there! [03:11] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-153.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:12] hello [03:12] hello metrofox [03:12] hi fire|bird, no school today :P [03:12] hi godling [03:16] samyf (n=adeodatu@92.84.17.234) joined ##slackware. [03:19] fire|bird: thats really really really odd. [03:19] fire|bird: oooooh i know, it was probably that iphone remote software i was trying to use with it [03:19] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:20] could easily be, if that's all that's changed, that's probably the cause. [03:24] we need a wget security release already :) [03:24] mancha: why [03:24] spook, you always ask that [03:25] mancha: why? [03:25] why do you ask that? [03:25] when i recommend a security update it is because the current ver has a security issue [03:25] spook: you remind me of a toddler. ;P [03:26] godling: why? [03:26] assume that henceforth [03:26] mancha: why? [03:26] :D [03:26] spook: your head is soft. [03:27] godling: hahahaha, why? =D [03:27] spook: because I was too rough with your mother while she was pregnant with you. [03:27] :O [03:27] [ in bed ] [03:27] spook: Well, I found my issue on the laptop, xbmc looks for libmysqlclient.so.15, and I now have libmysqlclient.so.16 :P [03:27] i don't think emailing pat works, so rworkman, if you're around, maybe you can point it out [03:28] fire|bird: yeah i had that :P [03:28] spook: Well, at least that's a simple issue. :P [03:29] for others, if you don't wanna wait for a possible update from pat, move to wget 1.12 [03:30] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:31] mancha: what's changed with wget? [03:31] proper cert validation for ssl [03:31] ah cool [03:32] I'm lazy so I'll wait for Pat. :) [03:32] I don't plan on using wget anytime soon. [03:35] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [03:36] man, I want an HTC Tattoo [03:37] although I'm not sure how happy I'd be with the resistive touchscreen [03:38] has anyone here tried any of the Android phones? [03:40] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-153.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:41] is there an easy way to check if two files are different? like diff, but I just want a yes or no [03:41] diff gives yes/no too [03:41] oh? [03:41] diff -q [03:41] oh, cool [03:42] nice, nice, nice [03:42] no output means same ole same ole [03:42] sometimes, working on linux is a breeze [03:43] CaT_MaNZz (n=CaT_MaN@mail.telcomsoft.com) joined ##slackware. [03:49] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [03:53] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:53] godling: I've got a bug in the wife's ear now that verizon says they'll be supporting them [03:54] bah [03:54] slackytude: sometimes? I would say "most times" [03:54] if they do then they'll likely try to cripple it alisonken1noc [03:54] possibly - but it's _got_ to be better than this crappy samsung phone I have [03:55] I have an idea for an application that needs some of the sensors inside the phone. I think it could be cool. [03:56] alisonken1noc: true enough. [03:56] gotta love hulu: "Minimum requirements: IntelCore 2 Duo 1.8GHz At least 2.0G RAM Fedora 9, Ubuntu 8.04 or later" [03:56] Hulu Desktop [03:56] I suppose it may work for iphone too but I guess it's a matter of objective C vs. Java [03:57] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@82.225.203.40) joined ##slackware. [03:57] alisonken1noc: eh, nice [03:57] I like the way you see requierments listed in linux terms now [03:58] even if they use ubuntu [03:58] my mp3 played had "needs linux 2.6 kernel" on the package [03:58] slackytude: "the way I see requirements ..."? [03:58] mancha have you tried just linking libmysqlclient.so.16 to libmysqlclient.so.15 [03:58] alisonken1noc: I mean, its nice that they list linux as supported OS [03:58] ah [03:58] goddamnit! [03:59] !#$@ [03:59] http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/05/planetarium-in-your-pocket.html [03:59] NEVERMIND. [03:59] AND ... the Hulu Desktop supports LIRC remotes [03:59] alisonken1noc: It also needs at least glib 2.16 :P [03:59] I hate Google. [04:00] apparently my ideas are unoriginal. [04:00] heh [04:00] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: "Leaving." [04:00] spider, nope, nor do i want to :) (i think you mistook me for someone else) [04:00] mancha: yeah, spook and I were talking about that. :) [04:01] whoever [04:01] man [04:01] now I'm sulking [04:01] :/ [04:01] godling: bah, suck it up. :P [04:01] "nut up or get out" [04:01] Hey hey hey. You have alot going for you. Ya know. I mean......Umm...... [04:02] Your not dead. [04:02] Thats good right. [04:02] neither are they :) [04:02] alisonken1noc: that's what she said. [04:02] fire|bird: hah [04:02] Look at you breathing all on your own. [04:04] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:06] Google is better then that piece of shit company MS but they are starting to do more crap that requires the FOSS community to ask. What the hell are you doing. [04:06] *? [04:07] Could you please rephrase that in sentences that don't run together? [04:08] well look at you becoming a teacher and helping me be a better me. [04:08] thank you so much [04:09] I just like to understand people who I converse with. It's got nothing to do with you becoming a better person. :P [04:09] haha [04:10] alisonken1noc: I just installed hulu desktop in an Ubuntu 9.10 VM. It seems like an interesting app. [04:10] I just made a quickie package and trying it out [04:10] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [04:10] it can't find libflashplayer, so complaining about that [04:10] that sounds awfully proprietary [04:11] make sure it doesn't send your Mastercard # to hulu.com [04:11] I want to know you better too. We could swap stories, share secrets, and get Best Friends Forever charm. [04:11] "If you don not have it installed, please modify ~/.huludesktop with the correct location of libflashplayer.so" [04:11] "... do not ..." ? [04:11] someone from India create that error box? [04:12] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:12] the same folks who wrote "All your base are belong to us" [04:13] later people [04:15] Someone answer me. I need to know that someone cares. This is my only communication with the outside world. Cue the tears. [04:15] boomernang (n=kvirc@220-253-15-22.VIC.netspace.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:15] spider1010: well, you DID say "later" - that means you're leaving us [04:15] Well, I'm leaving too. 03:15. Later guys. Take care. [04:16] I love you too. [04:16] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:16] \o/, he left. :P [04:16] mornun [04:16] morning Zordrak [04:17] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: ""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."" [04:17] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "Leaving." [04:17] huludesktop after installing libflashplayer 64-bit to /usr/lib64: "illegal instruction" [04:26] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:27] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [04:28] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.91.5) joined ##slackware. [04:28] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: "Bye!" [04:28] duh - I removed the npwrapper for 32bit flash without doing the nspluginwrapper -r and now firefox dies on hulu.com [04:28] (slamd64) [04:34] anyone want to come to perth, australia to a quiz night? [04:35] erm... i'm gonna say no [04:35] *clicks maybe* [04:35] spook: will i get a free flight ticket ? :D [04:35] Action: acidchild doesn't want to say he's going [04:36] Action: acidchild also doesn't want to say no as thats depressing :( [04:37] Action: init[1] basechild [04:38] yay [04:39] Action: init[1] think acidchild took some time to decrypt *basechild* :d [04:40] nar i'm in the music atm [04:40] ok - slamd64 12.2 does NOT work with flash 10 (anyone want to guess about lib incompatibility? :) ) [04:41] K:) [04:41] init[1]: no. [04:42] :( [04:42] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "pebkac, id-10-t clicked the X ^_^" [04:42] anyone know what the logo addon for youtube means at the moment? [04:42] alisonken1noc, still crashing? I might have a fix [04:42] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:43] upgrade to slack13 [04:43] no [04:43] erik: ^^ [04:43] http://slackbuilds.org/~erik/flashplugin-lahf-fix.c [04:44] erik: nice :D [04:45] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:45] did you write that? [04:45] samyf (n=adeodatu@92.84.17.234) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [04:45] no, the author is listed [04:45] aye, i see. [04:45] preload stuff is cool [04:45] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:46] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [04:46] it cured the crashing for me on an older intel chip lacking lahf [04:46] readonly LD_PRELOAD >> /etc/profile [04:46] hehe [04:46] ah [04:47] I didn't have to preload it, just dropped the .so next to my libflashplayer.so [04:47] yeah [04:48] http://opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xsh/ucontext.h.html [04:50] nice one [04:51] mingdao (n=mingdao@60.160.103.104) joined ##slackware. [04:51] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [04:51] sig_handler is pretty intence lol [04:51] Verizon. :P [04:52] what about them? [04:54] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [04:55] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:57] arghFFS [04:57] told someone to use webmail... [04:57] "Mailman tells me im a subscriber but still nothing to view? No doubt I'm missing a vital button somewhere?" [04:58] slapped (n=_sith@cpe-075-189-140-248.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:58] ##slackware: mode change '+b slap*!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [04:58] slapped kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: metbsd - trolling, abusive, ban avoidance. [05:00] acidchild: They're the reason I just got knocked offline. [05:00] fraktil (n=fraktil@pool-96-248-228-113.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:00] i was out for about 2hours tonight too [05:01] I think it's got something to do with the set-top box [05:02] mingdao_ (n=mingdao@116.53.110.57) joined ##slackware. [05:04] ccorg (i=ccorg@suid.rwxr-xr-x.org) joined ##slackware. [05:04] hello [05:05] is there an active op around? [05:05] what package in slackware deals with common.pm in irssi? [05:06] nfc [05:06] nfc? [05:06] Kowal, common.pm is a perl moddule most likely [05:06] I have perl installed. [05:07] but it require one more [05:07] 11:06 Can't locate HTTP/Request/Common.pm in @INC (@INC contains: [05:07] so you need Common.om [05:07] Common.opm [05:07] I have installed it on my debian box. just cant remember the package name [05:07] fuck it [05:07] mancha: :D [05:08] I'll take that as a no... [05:09] Kowal, install HTTP::Request::Common [05:09] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [05:09] nfc means no fucking clue btw [05:09] mingdao (n=mingdao@60.160.103.104) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:09] haha:d [05:09] have to go to cpan (perl archives) if you don't have a full perl install [05:09] I did installpkg perl-nr.txz [05:10] negatory, stop repeating perl [05:10] ima talking about a perl module, capische? [05:10] I did the cpan install on gentoo... but I cant remember the syntax:D [05:10] ccorg: plenty of ops in #freenode [05:11] Kowalczyk: it is more than clear that you have a perl understanding problem.... in that you dont [05:11] I mean a chanop for this room [05:11] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:11] ccorg: they are here. [05:11] Kowalczyk: slackware provides core Perl [05:11] perl -MCPAN -e shell [05:11] ccorg: what do you need? [05:11] Kowalczyk: if you have installed it you have all you need to run irssi [05:11] then at prompt install HTTP::Request::Common [05:12] otherwise you need to read up on cpan and how to install additional modules [05:12] you can just type cpan [05:12] I got banned instantly when I came in here a few minutes ago for trolling and ban evasion and I want to see about it getting lifted since there has obviously been a case of mistaken identity. I have only been here like twice in the last year and never spoken to anyone.... [05:12] ccorg: the ban was on any nickname starting "slap" [05:12] only twice and you never speak, then why be here?! [05:13] so just cpan ?and then Http::Request::common ? [05:13] oh [05:13] to read what is discussed, is that alright? [05:13] i learn from that [05:13] ccorg: no, its not. you arent allowed to idle in irc channels =D [05:14] [05:14] lol [05:14] can i get my host lifted or not? :) [05:15] Kowalczyk, run cpan, then when you get the cpan> prompt or whatever do install Http::Request::common [05:15] Kowal, Zordak suggests HTTP::Request::Common is part of the core, i don't know if it is or not [05:15] ccorg: i told you its not a host ban [05:15] oh i see. i misunderstood [05:15] Nick change: mingdao_ -> ghost [05:15] thanks [05:15] its a nick ban on nicks starting "slap" [05:15] this is useful as well http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/development/cpan2tgz/ [05:15] i got you [05:16] Nick change: ghost -> Guest14689 [05:16] Nick change: Guest14689 -> mingdao [05:16] aha. I didnt have make:D hihi:D yes it is a minimal install:d installing as I go [05:16] mancha: no not necessarily [05:16] mancha: just that its not required for irssi.. but it might be required for a plugin or something [05:17] oh, i can confirm it's part of the base perl install [05:17] not on a 64 box i have.. [05:17] oh damn, * slackboy sets ban on slap*!*@* << my bad. I am not fully aake yet :/ [05:17] samyf (n=adeodatu@92.85.212.237) joined ##slackware. [05:18] samyf (n=adeodatu@92.85.212.237) left irc: Client Quit [05:18] oops [05:18] samyf (n=adeodatu@92.85.212.237) joined ##slackware. [05:18] fuck, it is part of libwww (which i mae) [05:18] so, back to the install suggestion via cpan [05:18] mancha: someone needs a nap [05:19] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:19] ok well thanks for setting me straight, have a great day everyone [05:19] cheers [05:19] http://cpan.pastebin.com/m238c1b9c why? [05:19] ccorg (i=ccorg@suid.rwxr-xr-x.org) left ##slackware. [05:20] Kowal you might want to install libwww instead (which is a bigger package, more stuff including that http/request/Common thing) [05:20] so install libwww ? [05:20] aha,. not in cpan.. [05:20] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/libwww-perl/ ?:) [05:21] or just `cpan -i Bundle::LWP` >.< [05:21] cpan just fails.. [05:22] yes, Bundle::LWP is the better route [05:22] perl: warning falling back t o the standard locale.. :P [05:22] aha. I had that error in gentoo as well. hmm [05:22] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: "leaving" [05:22] *think* [05:23] something to do with locales right?:) [05:23] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-432785.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:23] the biggest thing that sucks about cpan is that it doesn't really let you know what the progress is [05:23] like, how much is left to process [05:28] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:29] samyf_ (n=adeodatu@92.85.212.237) joined ##slackware. [05:30] gah. cpan just fails [05:31] it's probably not cpan's fault :P [05:31] godling: ++ [05:31] I know [05:31] Zordrak: Do you a site about to compile te a new kernel? [05:31] gah,. I did this in gentoo. cant remember [05:31] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: SendQ exceeded [05:32] Action: Zordrak is running out of imagination for new passwords... i dont think theyll like Mug4B3 [05:32] just generate one [05:32] samyf_: you know I do, adeodatus [05:32] they are not supposed to like them, aynway [05:33] Charl!3Unif0rmNovem3rTang0 [05:33] Give me the link to it. [05:33] samyf_: kroah.com/lkn <<- read this book online [05:33] samyf_: http://slackwarebox.dyndns.org:88/slackware/2.6-kernel-build.txt [05:34] Zordrak: good, needs more special chars [05:34] just a quick question. how do I fix that locale error? [05:34] thanks for links! [05:34] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) left irc: "leaving" [05:34] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [05:34] samyf_: yw [05:35] samyf_: why are you compiling a new kernel? [05:35] mingdao: dont do it [05:35] Yes, I do. [05:35] Zordrak: self abuse? [05:36] mingdao: i would call it self abuse yes... but not the kind you're thinking of. [05:36] Zordrak: You are a nightmare! [05:36] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.22.248) joined ##slackware. [05:36] doesn't samyf_ usually go by adeodatus? [05:37] and wasn't he going by another nick recently? [05:37] adeodatus: I'm not the nightmare, buddy. I'm Zordrak, Lord of Nightmares [05:37] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [05:37] o_O,yes he is an animated being ! [05:37] Why all the nick changing guys? [05:37] mingdao: yeah.. he's trynig to evade being known an the local turing failure [05:37] and failing [05:37] I thought Quiznos took that junk off with his kline. [05:37] Well, we all fail. [05:37] Quiznos got klined? [05:38] aye [05:38] dont know why [05:38] but we all saw it coming :) [05:38] heh [05:38] great, need php 5.1, but webspace only has 4.9 [05:38] when? [05:38] samyf_: Also, try this guide I made especially for [Nobody] aka sanzilla aka compgenius999 aka cg999 [05:38] now if only straterror could follow him out the door... [05:38] http://slackwarebox.dyndns.org:88/slackware/compgenius-kernel-guide [05:39] mingdao: [Nobody] is not sanzilla ! [05:39] slackytude: upgrade in slackware [05:39] init[1]: sure? [05:39] mingdao: whut, whut? [05:39] nickserv said so [05:39] mingdao: sanzilla is intel[xyz] guy [05:39] Zordrak: if you don't know why, how could you see it coming? [05:40] godling: we all saw it ! [05:40] just infront of our eye! [05:40] was it due to a moody operator? [05:40] godling: no idea ,no reason was mentioned ! [05:40] slackytude: php-5.2.10 is in Slackware 13.0 ... maybe I missed your posts [05:40] i dont know the specific reason why.. but he was a douchebag [05:42] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-170-35-135.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:43] hrm [05:43] samyf_: I don't know why you need a new kernel, but you can follow those guides I gave you; follow the one for [Nobody] if you can't follow the other one, and you can have a nice, new, shinky Linux kernel [05:43] and you won't have to fial [05:43] fail even [05:43] Action: Zordrak wonders how adeodatus manages to put his underwear on in the morning.. [05:44] Maybe when Quiznos gets back to NY he'll be unklined or with a different host and he can /j again and enlighten us. [05:44] Zordrak: the dead Pope? [05:44] that's kind of disturbing [05:45] godling: heh, no. adeodatus == samyf_ [05:45] even weirder, Zordrak [05:46] Zordrak: [OT] you may like this,may be you have read it,# Download a Spanish translation of the book as a PDF Spanish translation [05:46] http://shop.fsf.org/product/free-software-free-society/ [05:46] mingdao: thank you very much! [05:46] paste fail! [05:47] samyf_: yw ... come back as a success! [05:47] init[1]: O_o [05:47] samyf_: you can probably copy and paste from the guide for compgenius [05:47] Zordrak: sorry , this one http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/fsfs/rms-essays.pdf [05:47] I don't understand that init[1] [05:47] shop for free software? [05:48] mingdao: its was paste fail! [05:48] must be my English [05:48] mingdao: yes [05:48] you put two things together? [05:48] mingdao: errs, i said right ,second link is the correct one :) [05:49] ok, later [05:49] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [05:49] init[1]: I was just wondering why there was a _shop_ for _free_ software [05:49] course, if it has to do with RMS that explains all [05:49] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.22.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:49] back to happy wiring [05:49] mingdao: aah,we can contribute to FSF by shipping those manunals and goodies [05:50] they can contribute to me via VISA ;) [05:50] huh! [05:50] shop with free software ... [05:50] could you pls shut the fuck up? [05:50] no, can you help me winter ? [05:50] init[1]: with? [05:51] to shut the fuck up ? [05:51] mingdao: shut the fuck up [05:51] winter: i did start it with [OT] [05:51] q [05:51] lionping_ (n=itsme@cm.mpi.univie.ac.at) left ##slackware. [05:52] Action: init[1] back to wrk [05:53] init[1]: yes, maybe but you didn't bs around with speculetions [05:54] aha. I needed glibc for the perl locale stuff [05:55] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-103-206.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [05:56] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-68-228.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:00] mesa_booger (n=mesa_boo@unaffiliated/mesa-booger/x-2567591) left irc: [06:01] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.242) left irc: "Leaving" [06:05] coffee is, without doubt, the best thing that has ever been invented by anyone anywhere ever [06:06] Nick change: rapid_ -> rapid [06:07] :D [06:07] hey, Zordrak where is you site/ [06:08] blog.tpa.me.uk [06:08] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-170-35-135.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:08] thanks [06:08] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-35-135.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:09] Zordrak: any particular flavor? [06:10] buh? [06:10] java [06:10] O_o... what are you on about? [06:10] ohhhh [06:10] kawfee! [06:10] Action: Zordrak smacks head against wall [06:10] is that UK English? [06:10] ;) [06:10] no.. french roast [06:10] freshly ground [06:11] have some [06:11] Starbuck's beans [06:11] the type of freshly ground where just adding the water makes a foam taller than the coffee itsolf [06:11] he he [06:11] ew stardollars [06:12] having said that.. im being taken to starbucks at two for a contract discussion [06:12] but then im not having their coffee .. im having the only thing i go to starbucks for.. [06:12] wow! backuping up data with sshfs is coolest thing i have ever done! [06:12] have a fresh French roast for me .... and then a frappuccino for afters [06:12] Venti Vanilla Blended-Coffee Frappuccino with Whipped Cream [06:12] mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [06:13] yowser! [06:13] I'm jealous. [06:13] init[1]: `rsync -ave ssh` ftw [06:13] Choice of coffee here is very small; tea, on the other hand ... [06:13] mingdao: and its gonna be free [06:13] leave off the e [06:13] mingdao: and therell be fruitcake too [06:13] mingdao: the e is kinda important.. [06:14] Zordrak: this is UNIX there are various ways to d the same thing! and with mounting remote fs with sshfs helps in using local tools ! [06:14] ;) [06:15] let me stop you there [06:15] Action: theblackbox has good ol' black death coffee mmmm [06:15] this isnt UNIX [06:15] ah ! [06:15] why ? [06:15] I prefer ssh, not rsh [06:15] Zordrak: i mean GNU! [06:15] mingdao: "-e ssh" is one complete option [06:16] Zordrak: did i say any thing wrong ? [06:16] mingdao: How to extract a the kernel? [06:16] o_O [06:16] samyf_: tar -xf xxx.tgz/bz2 etc [06:17] init[1]: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/articles/Technical/UNIX_Vs_Linux [06:17] Zordrak: i was talking wtf a student perspective,as i like unix philosophy [06:18] s/wtf/wrt/ [06:18] ooops [06:18] samyf_: tar -xf linux-2.6.31.1.tar.bz2 [06:18] step 3 of the guide [06:18] wobbles (n=huntsman@C-59-101-157-125.mel.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:18] init[1]: i know.. but i cant be a technilogical prima donna and still sit around letting people get away with statements like "This is UNIX" now, can I? [06:18] ok [06:19] mingdao: now.. back to kawfee.. :) [06:19] i get mine from a local specialist shop [06:19] they have every coffee and tea imaginable [06:20] Zordrak: i thought you might understand what i meant ! any way carry on :) [06:20] Zordrak: having dinner ... will grind beans and brew after ... and read you tintilating tales ;) [06:20] order whatever you like of whatever you like.. ground to your specification.,. or not ground at all [06:20] and i have a cafetiere mug to put it in [06:20] the mug itself has a built in cafetiere [06:21] its awesome. [06:21] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:22] sirslacker (n=aligp@91.99.15.53) joined ##slackware. [06:22] What kernel does it run :-) [06:23] willca (n=willca@67.171.42.234) left irc: "Leaving" [06:24] pat's 2.6.29.6 generic.. but slimmed down to remove the tea, milk & sugar drivers which are all unused [06:25] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:25] But with cappucino and short black as modules, I assume [06:26] no no.. just bean&water compiled in [06:26] the rest is userland [06:26] morning guys [06:26] mesa_booger (n=mesa_boo@unaffiliated/mesa-booger/x-2567591) joined ##slackware. [06:27] dont neeed none of that fancy bloated cappuccino code or any rubbish like that... its lean and mean [06:27] add water to ground bean, stir, plunge, drink [06:27] hi, any tip for how can i change the screen output to my external monitor on xfce easily? [06:27] depends on your gfx card and driver [06:29] ?? [06:29] init[1]: rt previous: i cron "rsync -avnxe ssh --delete remote:/source /backup/dir" [06:29] if theres any relevant output i wall rerun manually without the n [06:30] automated overwriting backups are a disturbing concept for me [06:30] hence why i dont just use raid1 [06:31] the only time i automate the backup itself is if it is incremental with rolling archiving policies [06:31] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:32] is it safe to set IO delay type to no port-io delay? [06:32] init[1]: "rsync -avnxDe ssh --delete remote:/source /backup/dir" if im doing a whole OS backup rather than just data [06:34] D is implied by a .... but i like te be certain :) [06:35] adupuis_ (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:37] phrag (n=phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left ##slackware. [06:37] phrag (n=phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. 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[06:49] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:49] Zordrak: sorry i was afk, sshfs is of no use ? we also use rsync locally [06:49] if we mount it with sshfs, [06:50] any way,it think it is a matter of taste :) [06:54] Karu (n=alch@78-28-86-181.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [06:55] sirslacker (n=aligp@91.99.15.53) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:57] Action: init[1] back to wrk [06:59] (##slackware) Channel ban on slap*!*@* expired. [06:59] ##slackware: mode change '-b slap*!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:00] i go back work too [07:00] bye [07:01] rgouveia_ (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:01] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:03] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-105-15.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [07:07] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-170-206-236.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:07] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-206-236.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:08] yes its a matter of taste.. but sshfs requires a mount that rsync doesnt [07:08] i prefer that stateless kind of connection for a backup [07:11] rgouveia_ (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:12] raela (i=1000@cpe-67-241-21-88.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:21] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:22] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-xugdjzentvazkeou) joined ##slackware. [07:23] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) joined ##slackware. [07:23] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. 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[07:42] oh yeah.. and well done on choosing windows asx format NASA you douchebags [07:44] er, i don't recall after redirecting my symlinks in /boot, the default kernel is the huge one correct? not generic. [07:44] mrselfpwn: huh? [07:45] frankjones (n=mike@64.208.214.225) joined ##slackware. [07:45] oh yeah, i got you [07:45] yes.. huge is default [07:46] oh okay. thanks Zordrak :) [07:46] hi, I have 2 stata drives, i'm coppying 2.5G worth off data from sda2 to sdb1 but the transfer rate only seems to be 1MB per second.. its a dell server.. any pointers on what I might check out to find out why its going so slow ? [07:46] It depends on the order you installed the kernels last one wins the symlink. [07:47] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [07:47] frankjones: how are you transferring? [07:48] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. 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[07:57] cursed gd library. that's probably one of the most problematic ones out there [07:57] eviljames: http://www.google.org/flutrends/ca/ <- doesn't look good for you :D [07:58] theblackbox: well, what location are you specifying? [07:58] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Success [07:58] ananke: libjpeg! [07:58] that too [07:58] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-220-0-14.lnse1.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:59] http://www.google.org/flutrends/us/ <- some shouldn't complain about public health care... [08:00] ananke, well it claims to look in /usr/lib by default .... which is where my libgd.so/.la files are located [08:01] that's a neat source of data [08:01] so I'm guessing this isn't what it's looking for [08:01] theblackbox: try specifying /usr [08:01] so a search locates the libgd directory under /usr/include/php/ext/gd [08:01] ah [08:02] tfrew (n=tfrew@75.145.244.105) joined ##slackware. [08:02] and I'm doing that in a slackbuild file just before the ./configure and the config options where it says CFLAGS="$SLKCFLAGS $CPPFLAGS" [08:03] so after the $CPPFLAGS do I just add -L/usr [08:03] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-254-206-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:04] Goodmorning. I've installed a new slackware 13 server yesterday, and for some reason, any program I attempt to compile that requires gcc-c++ fails with configure: error: C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check [08:04] i do have glibc and all the other packages installed, and that file is symlinked properly, any ideas what might cause this? [08:04] theblackbox: i'd just pass options to configure, such as --with-gd=/usr [08:05] tfrew: do you have binutils installed? [08:05] right, I wasn't too sure how to spec that, but it makes sense [08:06] [ installed ] - binutils-2.18.50.0.9-i486-1 [08:06] tfrew: did you leave items off of a/ and d/ ? [08:06] Zordrak i'm using the cp -R command [08:07] frankjones: cp doesn't show speed. [08:07] frankjones: so, how are you measuring it? [08:07] frankjones: personally, I use "tar -C -cf - ./ | tar -C -xvf -" [08:07] thrice' : i'm not sure, this is a pre-canned xen domU. [08:07] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:07] ananke, nope, nothing seems to make any difference [08:08] theblackbox: so inspect config.log [08:08] alisonken1noc: the f? [08:08] f is file - so "tar -f -" tells tar to use stdin/out [08:08] alisonken1noc: thats a funny way of writing rsync -av .. [08:08] Action: ananke uses rsync for everything [08:09] alisonken1noc: no.. as in.... the fsck? [08:09] Zordrak: frankjones was using cp [08:09] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [08:09] alisonken1noc: i know... [08:09] :) [08:09] and he should be using rsync [08:09] frankjones: at the rate of your feedback, we should have a solution for you in about 10 months, 11 days and three hours [08:09] hah [08:09] what your whole tar dealy is about.. i dont know [08:10] wierd... setup doesn't show up in path [08:10] why not do some reversible encryption too... [08:10] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:10] rsync is good if you want to sync directories - I don't like to delete anything in the destination in case it's not in the source unless it's for specific reasons (like sbopkg) [08:10] alisonken1noc: rsync has a switch for that. [08:10] ananke i'm on the phone I appologize to you for the delay [08:10] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [08:11] ananke, that's it, all it tells me is "configure error: gd library not found.. please install libgd" [08:11] ananke: ok - call me old fashioned :) [08:11] yeah.. i do a -m --delete to *report* if anything is to be deleted... then act appropriately [08:11] * -n --delete [08:11] theblackbox: that's what you found inside config.log? [08:11] kukibl (n=kuki@dynamic-27-135-241-92.broadband.blic.net) joined ##slackware. [08:11] configure-webalizer_static.log [08:12] theblackbox: that's not config.log as produced by ./configure [08:12] there is nothing else, not even in /tmp [08:13] alien just hit me up in #sb with a plan, let me try that [08:13] it would be in the directory where your ./configure was executed [08:14] kukibl (n=kuki@dynamic-27-135-241-92.broadband.blic.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:14] ananke to answer your question the 1MB/sec was an estimation based on repeating a du -sh /newdirectory every 1 second.. its a guess but moderately accurate.. [08:14] accurate enought to let me know its horribly slower than expected [08:14] frankjones: for one, you could use rsync to get real time throughput measurement. this way you wouldn't have to guess [08:15] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-432785.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:15] ananke, the slackbuild script changes the name then? [08:15] second, i'd test each device separately, and see if one of them is slower [08:15] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [08:15] ananke, you can't buy common sense ! : ) [08:15] something like 'time dd if=/dev/zero of=/dir1/bigfile bs=1M count=1024 conv=fsync' [08:15] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "Leaving" [08:16] theblackbox: i don't know, i don't have that script in front of me. you do. [08:16] theblackbox: you could start by simply extracting the source and running ./configure manually [08:17] web_knows (n=riba@last.fm/user/web-knows) joined ##slackware. [08:17] yeah, I'm going to give that a shot, apparently I need to pass the -L via LDFLAGS, not CFLAGS [08:17] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [08:17] ananke, cheers for the help btw [08:18] good luck [08:18] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:20] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.143.150) joined ##slackware. [08:21] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:22] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:23] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-soizimpwaagqmtnq) joined ##slackware. [08:23] troy (n=quassel@jefferai.org) joined ##slackware. [08:23] greetingsio [08:23] yo [08:24] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.254.104.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: [08:24] rworkman: ping? any kde 4.3.x packages kicking around that I can steal? or do I start building... [08:25] They are made available by Vincent Batts [08:25] See http://cardinal.lizella.net/~vbatts/kde/kde4-packages/ [08:25] alienBOB: is gnash sound issue solved ? [08:26] troy: the 4.3.2 packages need a Slackware-current. When you use them on Slackware 13.0 they will not work [08:26] init[1]: I was waiting for you to fix that ;-) [08:27] alienBOB: ah, ok then,i will try,though out of my knowlege domain! :) [08:27] it's best to run them on -current anyway, as the qt in -current fixes some webkit bugs that made arora not-so-happy [08:28] mesa_booger (n=mesa_boo@unaffiliated/mesa-booger/x-2567591) joined ##slackware. [08:30] is there anything in .3 that makes it actually worth migrating to over .2.6? [08:31] that doesn't really make any sense [08:31] makes lots of sense [08:31] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:3d) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [08:31] what is .2.6? [08:31] 4.2.6 [08:31] kurrent kde [08:31] s/6/4/ [08:32] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:749) joined ##slackware. [08:32] kde never had a 4.2.6, if that is what you are asking [08:32] ohrite yuh [08:32] that doesn't make sense either :\ [08:33] Zordrak: for me, yes. Plasma seems a lot better in 4.3, and I feel a general increase in stability [08:33] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:33] more effects, etc? [08:34] things like kolf still aren't finished, which makes it krap! [08:34] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [08:34] pprkut: certainly seems like its little stuff.. but not worth the bother of all the effort right now [08:34] unless you have a specific issue to address [08:35] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzU5Mw <- hahaha, dell is making a gui-based backup/recovery program, is it that hard to write a wrapper around dd? :D [08:35] dd and gzip btw :P [08:35] Zordrak: are you xfce user? [08:35] does 4.3.2 still crash with nvidia cards? [08:35] alienBOB: thanks - I'm using current, slack64. I'll see how it goes, and if not, I'll build my own :) [08:36] Zordrak: it looks like little stuff, but it sums up. I wouldn't go back again [08:36] and the binary driver* [08:36] sahko: how exactly? [08:36] pprkut: *nod* [08:36] still might wait awhile myself [08:36] maybe til -current has enough extras to draw me in too [08:37] -current has started back up? [08:37] pprkut: the 4.2.4 crashed x and kicked me in a black screen tty-like with a blinking cursor. luckily ctrl+alt+del rebooted [08:37] yeah.. very recently [08:37] TwinReverb: a few updates but that's it afaict [08:37] so really it's not much different than 13 [08:37] Zordrak: I find it amusing that you complain about kolf not being done, vs effects - both are equally good things for developers to work on, just one has more developers working on it :) [08:37] sahko: SysRq! [08:37] magic [08:37] yup ;p [08:37] no, kolf was my complaint :) [08:37] sahko: huh, I never experienced such a crash. I had occasional garbaged screens, but that seems solved with 190.x [08:38] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FE3EE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:38] troy: ^ [08:38] btw, I'm running the nvidia beta driver fine on 2.6.32-rc1/2 and it works fine [08:38] not used 3D though [08:38] anyway i am not trying kde again, and certainly not before it a newer version enters current, at some point [08:38] s/it/ [08:39] thrice`: sorry - wrong nick :P [08:40] http://www.geekherocomic.com/ ^^ [08:40] Camarade_Tux: kde-4.3.1 runs fine on 32-rc3-git1 :) [08:40] pprkut: hahaha ;p [08:40] Action: troy is presenting KDE at a conference in two weeks, and would prefer to use slackware to do the presentation - less distro specific artwork/feature [08:41] pprkut: although my wireless/wireless killswitch has troubles now [08:41] troy++ :P [08:41] troy: just don't forget to add some extra themes just for giggles [08:41] troy: don't forget to remove your pron before too -_- [08:41] alisonken1noc: the pink fluffy one :) [08:42] of course :) [08:42] pink++ [08:42] I'm expecting a room of about 400 users, so I'll plug slackware at least once :) [08:42] sometimes I put that one on just for fun and watch the wife when she turns on the monitor [08:42] troy: impressive, where are you doing this talk? [08:42] Ontario Linux Fest: onlinux.ca [08:43] ok, I see why there are so many people ;) [08:43] that reminds me - if anyone is in the Toronto area, come down and say hi :) [08:43] troy: but watch out, you may see eviljames! :o [08:43] estranho (n=diogo@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:43] troy: I once demonstrated kget's web interface by downloading a slackware iso. Made some people in the room laugh :) [08:43] hmmm, crap, wrong region actually :P [08:44] pprkut: well, I'll be handing out opensuse cds at the event, simply due to them having a nice livecd, but I'll be demonstrating with slackware [08:44] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.123) joined ##slackware. [08:45] opensuse is a nice distro [08:45] Camarade_Tux: excellent comic :) [08:45] and not defaulting to gnome-people-are-too-silly-for-anything [08:45] troy: yeah, I guess that's the best approach. After all most people won't be happy with Slackware dvds ;) [08:46] alisonken1noc: yup, also reading sinfest.net and phdcomics :) [08:46] I can imagine the phdcomics one :) [08:46] sinfest.net is years old and comics are daily ;) [08:46] pprkut: plus, opensuse mailed me 150 dvds, so I have a surplus :) [08:46] hehe [08:47] alisonken1noc: actually there may be less phdcomics ;) [08:48] CaT_MaNZz (n=CaT_MaN@mail.telcomsoft.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:48] troy: well, if you're bored, you can try something else... http://images.google.co.uk/images?num=50&hl=en&q=frisbee%20dog&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi [08:50] gah, I'm bored [08:51] so, anyone ever cross-compiled a kernel? [08:51] windows 2008 core version is idiotic [08:51] hey, out of curiosity, does anyone know if I can hijack the output of a process from one terminal and move it to another? [08:51] Camarade_Tux: define cross-compile [08:51] slackytude: a mod? [08:51] pprkut: compile a 32bit kernel on a 64bit machine [08:51] Camarade_Tux: my x86_64 kernel is partially compiled on Slack32 [08:53] pprkut: good, anything special to know? and why "partially" [08:53] ? [08:53] I'm planning to cross-compile and then install it remotely :) [08:53] Camarade_Tux: well, I start the compilation on my 64bit system, and then compilation gets distributed over the network to my 32bit system [08:53] pprkut: distcc? [08:54] icecream [08:54] ok, shouldn't be a problem then [08:54] why use icecream rather than distcc btw? [08:54] hi Camarade_Tux [08:54] but I needed to create a x86->x86_64 cross compiler [08:55] pprkut: interresting; wouldn't have thought that was possible (though, no reasoning behind my thought :) ) [08:55] Camarade_Tux: http://en.opensuse.org/Icecream#I_use_distcc.2C_why_should_I_change.3F [08:55] hey metrofox :) [08:55] Camarade_Tux: there are several advantages to icecream over distcc. for starters, it's easier to manage your farm [08:55] Camarade_Tux: nah, official stuff. windows without explorer.exe. it loads a desktop and shows you a cmd prompt [08:55] pprkut: I need 64 -> 32 so I can just get the slackware32 packages ;) [08:56] slackytude: he, can I say "nice"? ;) [08:56] slackytude: heard of litestep? [08:56] Camarade_Tux: just try it. I think it sux [08:56] Camarade_Tux: yeah [08:56] pprkut, ananke: thanks, checking [08:56] slackytude: win7 here, it has a bug : it thinks it is activated... [08:56] Camarade_Tux: you were the guy with the long route to irc no? [08:57] Camarade_Tux: the RC ? [08:57] slackytude: to irc? [08:57] slackytude: yeah [08:57] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [08:57] Camarade_Tux: how did you do it again? [08:57] Camarade_Tux: if you invoke the compile process on a 32bit machine, you do not need a 32bit gcc installed on slack64 [08:57] slackytude: nah, that was ssh'ing ;) [08:57] pprkut: I only have a 64bit machine ;) [08:58] Camarade_Tux: huh? [08:58] Camarade_Tux: well, then icecream is probably not for you ;) [08:58] Camarade_Tux: I know you had like 5 hops or so [08:58] well guys, the 4.3.2 packages are pretty slick - upgrade from up-to-date current was flawless [08:58] ezr (n=jpb@134.241.100.250) joined ##slackware. [08:58] pprkut: I will probably have some use for it in a month though [08:58] oh! [08:59] :) [08:59] were are the packages again? [08:59] vbatts 32 bit stuff [08:59] I needz it [08:59] Camarade_Tux: :) [08:59] See http://cardinal.lizella.net/~vbatts/kde/kde4-packages/ [08:59] thx [08:59] slackytude: ah, that I use anyterm on a remote computer to connect to a remote computer with screen hosting irssi which finally connects to irc? :) [08:59] thanks for the help folks - happy hacking :) [08:59] troy (n=quassel@jefferai.org) left ##slackware ("http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere."). [09:00] Camarade_Tux: ah, yes, thx. not what I was looking for, tho [09:00] slackytude: any hint about what were you looking for? [09:01] Im trying to have a video of an X app inside a browser. It want to send the mouseevents back from the browser to X, too [09:02] "I've build myself a intel-to-sparc crosscompiler, becauce compiling kernels on a Pentium Pro takes much less time than compiling on my good old Sparc SLC." <- old days [09:02] now it's more like : I'm compiling on the old sparc because it takes too much time on an atom... [09:02] haha [09:03] xephyr, npplugins, something which name I've forgotten (like npplugingwrapper) or [09:03] slackytude: ^^ [09:04] packeteer (n=zed@ppp121-44-141-108.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [09:04] i like that new gentoo moto: 10 years compiling [09:04] lol [09:04] he ^^ [09:04] (and still not done) [09:05] Camarade_Tux: nah [09:05] Camarade_Tux: html5 video tag and javascript [09:06] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) joined ##slackware. [09:07] slackytude: this is really really interesting [09:07] slackytude: I'm not doing that at all though [09:07] but xephyr could maybe... [09:07] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "Leaving" [09:07] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A52E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:08] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A52E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [09:08] slackytude: stop timing out! [09:09] slackytude: with only X, there might be a problem, like when one wants to have the same functionnality for X than detaching a screen [09:10] Action: init[1] feel like crying,the feature that i was working on for weeks just good added to svn trunk by smone else :( [09:10] init[1]: what was it? [09:10] init[1]: and don't cry, only girlies and eviljames cry (well, that sums up to only girlies...) [09:10] Camarade_Tux: nspluginwrapper ? [09:11] Camarade_Tux: smthing like lscpi :( [09:11] alisonken1noc: yeah, same :P [09:11] init[1]: for which project? [09:11] minix3 [09:11] Action: init[1] :( [09:11] init[1]: and there is a good way to avoid that: be the only committer :D [09:11] 2 hrs ago ! [09:11] init[1]: hahaha :P [09:11] init[1]: so minix3 is working well? [09:12] Camarade_Tux: ofcourse ! good for hacking around! [09:12] init[1]: :) [09:12] Action: init[1] still my eye are wet :( [09:12] hmmm, actually I could icecream/distcc over the internet considering the other one is an atom... [09:13] Action: init[1] gone to wash his face ! [09:13] Gulug (n=old-time@189.56.21.197) left irc: Client Quit [09:13] Nick change: init[1] -> init[0] [09:13] so i did the test tim dd if=/dev/zero of=/dir bs=1M count=1024 conv=fsync sda2 which is my system partition completed in about twice the time that my spare drive sdb1 complted in [09:14] could that time difference be due to the system drive having other "things" to do ? [09:14] i ran fsck -c and it did find some bad blocks and i rebooted priort to the dd test [09:15] init[0]: no, don't die! ='( [09:16] :) [09:16] frankjones: it found corrupt files or actual bad blocks? [09:16] if so, your device is going to die. soon. [09:16] Camarade_Tux: I doubt that works. I'm not 100% sure though [09:16] alisonken1noc, i didn't do your tar test although thanks for your promotion of the tar -f - :) [09:16] pprkut: yeah, pretty unlikely ;) [09:17] :) [09:17] slackytude: for you X thingy, you want to get a fresh session or an already running one? [09:17] slackytu1e (n=icke@p4FD8A31D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [09:17] when you go to init 1 is the system loaded on a ram disk or something ? [09:18] frankjones: no. [09:19] slackytu1e: for you X thingy, you want to get a fresh session or an already running one? [09:19] fresh [09:19] Camarade_Tux: actually, it might be possible :o [09:19] slackytu1e: also, are you aware of the java browser applet for vnc? [09:19] pprkut: hehehe :P [09:20] Camarade_Tux: you can tell iceccd to connect to a specific host, which might as well be on the internet [09:20] Camarade_Tux: I know it, but why should I prefer it [09:20] http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Multiseat_Configuration/Xephyr [09:20] when I run du -sh /var it shows 13G but when I cd /var , and then run du -sh * it doesn't add up to nearly 13G... I ran fsck on the partition and it didn't help... any ideas where the extra 10Gigs are ? [09:20] slackytu1e: because it exists? :P [09:20] pprkut: :) [09:21] woot! TGIF!! [09:21] frankjones: when in /var do du -sh . [09:21] and I'm getting ready to head home [09:22] alisonken1noc: what time is it? [09:22] 0623 [09:22] mingdao when i do that it says . 13G [09:23] what are you doing with 13G in /var/ ? [09:23] i can't account for it! [09:23] mysql? [09:23] Camarade_Tux: but its java [09:23] i dont' know where it is! [09:23] slackytu1e: yeah, java sucks ^^ [09:23] when i do du -sh * all those files add up to maybee 1.2 gig or so [09:23] log's... [09:23] slackytu1e: I think doing it with only htmlX would be wicked cool \o/ [09:23] my /var is 285M [09:24] frankjones: cd to /var and run ls -lShr [09:24] 84M on this box [09:24] k this servers on a work bench in another room so i have to run around let me try thanks [09:24] agentc0re: if he has 13G of logs he has a serious problem [09:24] run arond? [09:24] around? [09:24] or he runs a porn website? [09:24] frankjones: you got ssh? [09:25] mingdao its on a work bench becase its down for the count, no its not cnonected to the network :) [09:25] down for the count? [09:25] du -hs .[^.]* [09:25] mingdao: ... Not really. Either he's logging stuff he doesn't need and doesn't know it or mysql db's.... [09:25] IE i'm not bringing it back up with 13G unaccounted for in /var [09:25] mingdao: my bacula server has a huge /var. [09:26] frankjones: try the du command I gave [09:26] or logging too many things [09:26] thanks for your assesment of my log status agentc0re [09:26] Camarade_Tux: what is that command supposed to show? something amiss with it I think [09:27] maybe you meant du -hs .[^.] * [09:27] nope, .[^.]* [09:27] du for hidden files [09:27] brb going to try this stuff thanks [09:27] basically what 'du -hs *' misses out [09:27] run it then [09:28] I think you need to separate the * [09:28] du: cannot access `.[^.]*': No such file or directory [09:28] Camarade_Tux: its pretty easy, as far as I can see [09:28] Camarade_Tux: but ask me again next friday [09:29] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A52E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:29] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FE3EE.dip.t-dialin.net) got netsplit. [09:29] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.47.87) got netsplit. [09:29] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) got netsplit. [09:29] SIGBUS (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) got netsplit. 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[09:39] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:39] ok so anyone think that the system drive which is exactly the same as the spare drive would get have the data rate when using dd if=/dev/zero of=/dirx/tstfile bs=1M count=1024 conv=fsync ? since sda is the system drive and it might be doing other reads/writes and sdb is just a spare doing nothing other than the dd ? [09:39] *half the data rate [09:41] web_knows (n=riba@last.fm/user/web-knows) left irc: Connection timed out [09:41] frankjones: bs=4096 works fast for machines with at least 128 MB of ram. dd uses a lot of buffers. At bs=4096, on modern machines, the optimal transfer rate is reached for hard drives [09:42] frankjones: use dcfldd and you get a progress bar [09:42] slackytu1e: finally came down to checking onlive [09:42] slackytu1e: does it work on linux? [09:43] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:45] frankjones: http://slackwarebox.dyndns.org:88/slackware/slackbuilds/dcfldd/ [09:46] Action: slackytu1e is updating kde ^-^ [09:46] Camarade_Tux: well, yeah, thats the point [09:46] Camarade_Tux: client doesnt matter [09:46] Camarade_Tux: you just get a video stream [09:46] fosforo_ (n=fosforo@187.15.17.148) joined ##slackware. [09:46] Camarade_Tux: and keyboard / mouse events get captured and send to server [09:46] its nifty [09:46] I wanna have [09:47] slackytu1e: they have a .so (browser plugin)? [09:47] SIGBUS_ (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:47] s/have/use/ [09:47] Camarade_Tux: I think its flash for now ^-^ [09:47] Camarade_Tux: like youtube [09:47] tfrew (n=tfrew@75.145.244.105) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:48] Camarade_Tux: you could play crysis on a iphone with that [09:49] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-254-206-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: [09:49] slackytu1e: I'm not really interested in playing a game on a cellphone^Wblackberry [09:49] Nick change: SIGBUS_ -> SIGBUS [09:49] slackytu1e: you need js for mouse/keyboard [09:50] slackytu1e: it's all very doable but perf with X would be bad [09:51] Im staying on a LAN [09:51] but yeah, performance might be an issue [09:51] need to reboot, kde got messed up [09:52] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:52] estranho (n=diogo@200.166.186.162) joined ##slackware. [09:53] slackytu1e: nx? [09:53] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-soizimpwaagqmtnq) left irc: "Page closed" [09:55] donoban (i=1000@77.211.74.92) joined ##slackware. [09:57] slackytu1e: http://labs.o-hand.com/xoo/ [09:57] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-45-151-98.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:00] not_toast (n=toast@208.233.36.250) joined ##slackware. [10:02] blurp [10:03] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:04] hey i have a question unrelated to slackware but related to computers [10:04] i jsut want to know if you guys think this is resonable price http://maine.craigslist.org/sys/1413432469.html [10:05] if youre not sure about price, you sure you can install a new lcd in a laptop? [10:06] init[0] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left ##slackware. [10:06] i don't have a 13.3" laptop [10:08] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [10:08] slackytu1e (n=icke@p4FD8A31D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:08] else i would have kept the screen [10:09] like i kept the 15.4" screen i had [10:09] oh, its your ad? [10:09] yeah [10:09] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: "hard reboot" [10:09] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static195097104200.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:10] and i wjsut wanted to make sur eiw asn't ovcerchargeing [10:11] just put "OBO" in your ad, if someone thinks it is too high, he will haggle [10:11] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]" [10:12] ok i can't edit it now sinc ei don't have an actual account but if no one contacts me i'll repost takeing some off each and putting OBO [10:12] you should have an email from craigslist that lets you edit the ad [10:13] oh i thought i could only use that once first time posting on graigs list [10:14] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-jccsyugwxbwtkxpl) joined ##slackware. [10:15] hey y'all [10:15] hi [10:15] ello [10:15] hi [10:16] so, im trying to find out what a certain installer does to check OS version...i tried strace but to no avail...can anyone suggest some good debuggers for linux...thanx [10:16] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[10:20] kde is dead now :( [10:20] its a "bundle"...and proprietary :-p [10:21] anyone know a link to alienBOB's scripts to put a full install tree on a usb chip? i can't seem to locate it on www.slackware.com/~alien [10:21] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-432785.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:22] slackytude: saw my link about xoo? [10:22] @thrice it's just that the dialog im trying to trace appears to be a GTK, and strace doesnt detect its call [10:22] cyborg-one (n=iceknigh@nas-12-112.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [10:22] Camarade_Tux: no [10:22] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: "Leaving" [10:22] look at my desktop now [10:22] http://imagebin.org/66889 [10:23] any ideas? [10:23] thanks mingdao [10:24] ienh (n=ienh@rennes.elikya.com) left irc: "leaving" [10:24] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@mancomo.psi.ucm.es) joined ##slackware. [10:24] damn that was good [10:24] 90min business meeting with a free muffin and venti frappuccino [10:25] slackytude: bad boy [10:25] slackytude: haha [10:25] sounds like a deal to me [10:25] 15:57 Camarade_Tux : slackytu1e: http://labs.o-hand.com/xoo/ [10:25] -_- [10:25] try to adduser kde_sucks and launch kde from him [10:25] On other operating systems the mpd daemon was located in like ~/etc/init.d/ - where would it be in Slackware? [10:25] someone fix it [10:25] thrice`: same with root [10:26] sayed: /etc/rc.d/rc.mpd or so [10:26] slackytude: sexy desktop! [10:26] Thank you [10:26] thrice`: ^ [10:26] sayed: or, just launch it from /etc/rc.d/rc.local [10:26] Camarade_Tux: its grey and noithing works [10:26] the kde stuff is in .kde no? [10:26] anything else I could delete? [10:26] .kderc ? [10:26] firedix (n=firedix@host195.201-252-177.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [10:27] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@mancomo.psi.ucm.es) left irc: Client Quit [10:27] slackytude: lots ime [10:27] Zordrak: eh? [10:27] certainly in 3.5 stuff like .qt, .DCOP_foo etc [10:27] but i dont know for sure [10:28] thrice`: Now is there any way for me to queue rc.local to run all the commands with it - without restarting? [10:28] slackytude: logs? strace? [10:29] sayed: well, it'll run everytime you reboot. to do it manually, just "sh /etc/rc.d/rc.local" will run it [10:31] nothing [10:31] I mean, kde starts [10:31] just no plasma or so [10:32] I get all the start messages, like anakonda is starting yakuake starts [10:32] can move the mouse [10:32] removepkg kde, removepkg qt, installpkg kde*.txz, installpkg qt*.txz? [10:32] just grey and no menu when you click on desktop, no task bar [10:32] I did upgradepkg --install-new [10:32] from a 13, tho [10:32] not current [10:32] troy: did the 4.3.2 packages work out for you? [10:33] vbatts: not for me ^-^ [10:33] slackytude: ! [10:33] I posted an imagebin earlier [10:33] http://imagebin.org/66889 [10:33] thats what I get [10:34] any ideas? [10:34] I guess I could revert back to kde [10:34] 4.2.4 [10:34] vbatts: yes, perfectly! [10:34] Man_of_W1x (n=wax@gualtiero.cs.unibo.it) joined ##slackware. [10:34] for the whole desktop experience, or only when you + ? [10:34] troy: good! [10:34] slackytude: oh, you upgrade to 4.3? [10:35] *d [10:35] vbatts: alt+f2 gives me the window, but it doesnt start anything [10:35] Camarade_Tux: yes [10:35] vbatts: I'll be showing them off in two weeks, audience of about 400 (based on conf. organizer estimates) :) [10:35] vbatts: the whole thing is like that [10:35] vbatts: saved me from having to compile everything :) [10:35] Action: Zordrak chills in his chair.. using 4.2.4 and with everything just working :) [10:35] whiten0ise (n=someone@24.179.66.46) joined ##slackware. [10:35] hi all [10:35] slackytude: for good measure, try to mv ~/.kde kde_home_bak, log out, log back in [10:35] vbatts: I delete .kde [10:35] slackytude: try a little more troubleshooting; does ~/.xsession-errors show anything? [10:35] vbatts: its the same [10:35] thrice`: there is no xsession-errors [10:36] is there a .xsession ? [10:36] troy: indeed. good luck with the talk, and thanks for your work on amarok ;) [10:36] felipe (n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se) joined ##slackware. [10:36] thrice`: yes [10:36] vbatts: I don't work on amarok :) I'm just a promo guy :) [10:36] ok, sorry :) does that contain any errors? [10:36] slackytude: try toggling composite (shift + alt + f12) [10:36] pprkut: hrm [10:36] troy: close enough, i see your efforts on kde-promo. its good stuff [10:36] i'm partitioning for Slackware 13, I'm wanting to use about 10 gigs of my solid state drive to run Slack. My computer has 12GB of RAM, so I can deal with a small (usually like a 750MB) swap, but what other partitions should I make in addition to / with this much space? /home? /usr? /var? [10:36] pprkut: save that thought for me.. i can NEVER remember the shortcut for that :) [10:37] whiten0ise: just disable swap :P [10:37] whiten0ise: with that much memory... [10:37] whiten0ise: i ALWAYS ALWAYS do this: [10:37] Zordrak: :P [10:37] 256MB /boot, /, 4096MB swap [10:37] but i don't need that [10:37] where / is all thats left in the middle [10:38] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [10:38] slackytude: also, you can try "kwin --replace" from alt+f2 [10:38] in your case.. ither leave swap out.. or not.. [10:38] so just /boot and /, eh? [10:38] whiten0ise: I'm running slack13 without swap on a machine with only 3GB - never had a crash [10:38] but theres no need to sub-partiton the rest of / [10:38] its just unnecessary [10:38] i was previously running Zenwalk, which I loved, but the current version is buggy and crashed my system...so =\ [10:38] I only do 10G for /, some swap, and the rest as /home. having a separate /boot has never made sense to me [10:38] slackytude: you are on current, and if you still have the packages downloaded, you may do an rsync to cardinal.lizella.net::vbatts/kde/kde4-packages/4.3.2/x86{,_64} and ensure you have the latest packages, and md5sum -c *md5 for good measure. [10:39] vbatts: any chance you can whip up koffice2.1beta3 packages too? :) [10:39] thrice`: the separate boot is 1. so multiple OSes could share it, 2. so lilo never has to warry about reading the root FS whatever it is.. it just reads off a plain-ol' /boot [10:40] slackytude: youneed -current for the latest qt [10:40] Action: troy only uses /boot if he's using weird filesystems... [10:40] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [10:40] allend: ahhh [10:40] I've never had lilo care about what it's booting :) and besides, who installs anything but slackware? [10:40] vbatts: Im not on current [10:40] i barely use it for funkiness.. but i sometimes do.. and it doesnt hurt to have separated your boot before you realise you should have [10:40] for the oldest linux distro, we definitely have the most active irc...hurrah! [10:41] thrice`: multi-slacks [10:41] ? [10:41] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: [10:41] Zordrak: hehe [10:41] 32, 64 & -current :) [10:41] rogersman: could be correlated with the most problems encountered :P [10:41] shared /boot [10:41] thrice`: encrypted / needs separated /boot [10:41] lol [10:41] yeah, when i installed Zenwalk, it does auto lilo install...and it installed to the MBR of my storage HDD where Windows is, rather than making a /boot on my solid state. [10:41] man, xfce4 is fast [10:41] slackytude: well then i can guarantee you results ;) [10:41] so i'm gonna have to fdisk /mbr on my windows [10:42] whiten0ise: why? chainload [10:42] Nick change: Guest32336 -> shik4nt4z4 [10:42] imagebin.org/66893 [10:42] well, I've i hadn't of struggled with slackware in the beginning, my linux knowledge would be zilch ;-) [10:42] eh? [10:42] ^^ fun [10:42] whiten0ise: put lilo on the mbr andh add windows as an option [10:43] dont let that winbitch own your boot :) [10:43] Action: allend is going down to install kde-4.3.2. Thanks vbatts. My download just finished. [10:43] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-220-0-14.lnse1.win.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [10:43] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:43] i'm just gonna wipe it [10:43] thas one way [10:44] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [10:44] /me burps [10:44] :'(( [10:44] this is an i7 with 12GB of high-performance RAM, boots off of a 32GB solid state, with a 1TB RAID of 7200RPM HDDs for non-OS data. [10:44] and Vista, JUST IDLING, takes 12% of system resources. [10:44] samuelig (n=samuelig@154.pool85-57-134.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [10:44] whiten0ise: hahahahhaahahahahah [10:45] whiten0ise: i've a similar setup, but only 6GB ram =) [10:45] can I point slackpkg to current? [10:45] and *no* vista =P [10:45] troy: i'll give koffice-2.0.83 a go for you [10:45] phrag: I need the crazy RAM in mine because I run a mass of VMs and emulated Cisco hardware, my computer is a penetration testing lab for my CISSP, and a lab for my CCNP [10:46] cool, yeah VM's rock on an i7 =) [10:46] yup :) [10:46] whiten0ise: i have quad xeons with 8GB RAM and 3TB storage in RAID61... after boot it has about 120MB used RAM [10:46] whiten0ise: what vm software do you use? [10:46] turn off the high-availability stuff and its about 80MB :) [10:46] Zordrak: very nice, that's what i'm looking for [10:46] Man_of_Wax (n=wax@gualtiero.cs.unibo.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:46] phrag: and i7 cost a lot :P [10:46] vbatts: upgrade wv2 beforehand, needed for .doc import :) [10:46] slackytude: sure [10:47] phrag: I use the latest VMWare Server, the web interface is very nice, since I am training a girl in the art of security, I let her SSH into my Linux install, and she can also HTTPS into my VMs [10:47] slackytude: sure you can. if you want to upgrade so you can properly run kde4.3.2 and not encounter the WSON ;) [10:47] which is why i use that setup [10:47] Camarade_Tux: the chips not so much, the boad and memory to match, yeah [10:47] whiten0ise: ew for vmware [10:47] BP{k}: WSON ? [10:47] if i wasn't, then i'd use VirtualBox [10:47] whiten0ise: you let a girl ssh into your home? :o [10:47] Action: Camarade_Tux hides [10:47] Camarade_Tux: haha [10:47] slackytude: (Big) White Screen of Nowt/Nothing. ;) [10:47] phrag: exactly [10:47] whiten0ise: i've never let a woman ssh into my box before =P [10:47] Action: Camarade_Tux will soon build a phenom ii system because of that [10:48] phrag: she's attractive and buys me ice cream sometimes [10:48] Action: Zordrak doesnt play about.. uses raw telnet to root his missus' box [10:48] donoban (i=1000@77.211.74.92) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:48] i apologize if you guys have an off-topic rule, i seem to have instigated a bit of mayhem. [10:48] Camarade_Tux: please remember, i ran a P4 2.6 for 6 years (24/7/265) until a few months back... so i deserve this shiny =) [10:48] whiten0ise: lol, score =) [10:49] socket.connect(); wham(); bam(); thankyou(ma'am); socket.disconnect(); [10:49] how lude [10:49] haha [10:49] forgot how good xfce is [10:49] groan! [10:49] maybe I should just stay away from kde [10:49] BP{k}: bah [10:49] slackytude: indeed! [10:49] alisonken1home: oh yeah.. right sorry [10:49] socket.connect(); wham(); bam(); groan(); thankyou(ma'am); socket.disconnect(); [10:49] ;D [10:49] hah [10:50] alright guys: i have partitioned a /dev/sdb1 Linux 256MB /boot, /dev/sdb2 Linux 10000MB /, /dev/sdb3 800MB /home [10:50] not what I was thinking but that works [10:50] whiten0ise: reasonable [10:50] alrite [10:51] Action: init[1] wonder why slackers are carzy abt kde o_o [10:51] updateing to -current now [10:51] init[1]: not crazy about it at all [10:51] i actually kinda hate KDE [10:51] but i'm a new slacker [10:51] phrag: hahaha ;) [10:51] init[1]: because we like to run whatever we want. [10:51] init[1]: just glad its finally worth using (in certain circumstances) [10:51] it drives me crazy [10:51] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [10:51] i have never liked kde and used slackware for awhile [10:51] id rather eat my own fare than use 3.5 [10:52] Zordrak: This my moto "Xfce is enough for any slacker" --init[1] :) BP{k} [10:52] but 4 is really good. (for UI-unrelated technical reasons) [10:52] openbox \o/ [10:52] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:52] i've never been a gnome fan [10:52] im trying to monitor all file and folder changes that occur during the installation of progam x...is there a command/program that can achieve this? (I just want to know where all the files are going during installation) [10:52] good morning :) [10:52] gnome is the most hateful POS in GNU [10:52] phrag, gnomes sux, orcs an elves are better [10:52] (-land) [10:52] ok, leaving, bbl gals :) [10:52] gnome is annoying [10:52] init[1]: just because it is *your* moto, doesn't make it any more or less true. [10:52] see ya Camarade_Tux [10:52] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [10:52] fluxbox for light, kde for boxen [10:52] Action: Camarade_Tux has always hated gnome [10:53] phrag: +++ [10:53] frankjones (n=mike@64.208.214.225) left ##slackware. [10:53] BP{k}: certainly makes it less true [10:53] straterra: hehe, thank you for making my point. ;) [10:53] No problem [10:54] BP{k}: Zordrak one i will make alienBOB tell my lines :) then you will :) [10:54] s/one/one day/ [10:54] init[1]: you better go and check the temperature in hell first. [10:54] init[1]: tell your lines? will you make him eat a cake too? [10:54] o_O [10:54] wtf? [10:54] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [10:55] jhw (n=jhw@84.143.123.32) left irc: "leaving" [10:55] "Xfce is enough for any slacker" --init[1] <--- this i mean [10:55] init[1]: The command line is enough for any slacker [10:55] init[1]: but enough != best [10:55] should i take my tech questions to #slackware-offtopic ? :-p [10:55] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-142-187.ip102.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [10:55] but multiple cli's are better [10:56] no, slackware-offtopic is ftl [10:56] doh! [10:56] rogersman: slacktrack can do that and written especially for that. [10:56] #slackware-offtopic should be called #chat [10:56] Action: TwinReverb stabs Zordrak [10:56] or #tr's-funzone [10:57] Action: pprkut summons ZombieZordrak [10:57] pfft [10:57] @BP{k} isnt that designed for tgz's ? [10:57] any channel that states a topic but then states that chat is not about that topic seems somewhat upside-down to me.... [10:57] rogersman: latest slacktrack has been updated to 13.0 standards and accepts either one [10:57] Action: Zordrak starts #bondage-offtopic and starts conversations about bunnies and toothpicks [10:58] hey dudes, i've always used ext3, is ext4 safe? [10:58] pprkut: thanks for another tip [10:58] Zordrak: well, you know..... [10:58] acutally its a "bundle" im trying to monitor.... [10:58] Action: alisonken1home wonders if #bondage-offtopic includes forays into leather accessories for bunnies [10:58] Zordrak: thats relevant to my interests [10:58] heh [10:58] heh [10:58] Zordrak: any sadist worth his salt can do wonderful things involving those two items ;) [10:58] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:59] whiten0ise: yes [10:59] vbatts: you're welcome :) [10:59] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.91.5) left irc: "Leaving" [10:59] rogersman: hmm you could always use find + diff? [10:59] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [10:59] whiten0ise, I would say neither yes or no [10:59] whiten0ise, they made changes which made some apps screw files up [10:59] Action: thrice` prefers just prefixing all stuff in the package name, and parsing /var/log/packages [10:59] whiten0ise: ext4 has always(fcvo) been safe.. its just a question of whether the developers of a particular app have fixed the lazy loophole they used to use in ext<=3 [11:00] this is true...i was just hoping for a lazier way to do it :-) [11:00] like, gnome-session-XX-x86_64-1_gnomesucks [11:00] Zordrak, and if they've fixed the pdflush crap where it consumes masses of CPU and goes apeshit XD [11:00] FWIW i use ext4 in production.. and this a reasonably large slack-based environment [11:01] but all storage is in XFS [11:01] wow. even the full install of Slackware is still quite minimal [11:01] Slack-based environment.. [11:01] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [11:01] Zordrak: tell that to thrice`... [11:01] thrice`: has EXT4 always been safe? [11:01] whiten0ise: more importantly the default install doesnt bloat by starting unneeded daemons.. the install gives you all you need.. but you have to turn on the bits you want [11:02] straterra, i'm not thrice` but I can say it has eaten my data in the past, but so has XFS and JFS [11:03] full slack is anything but minimal [11:03] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left ##slackware. [11:03] try windows 2008 core version [11:03] slackytude: agreed [11:03] compared to other distros? [11:03] a full slackware install is quite bloaticious [11:04] whiten0ise: yeah, Id say so [11:04] ubuntu is more bloated than this [11:04] init[1]: repeat after me: "XFCE is good. And KDE is good" [11:04] as is suse [11:04] ubuntu's install is about 1/2 the size of slackware [11:04] alienBOB: can't we just summarise that "Slackware is good" ;) [11:04] troy: you need those Koffice packages now? Or in time for your presentation? [11:04] they have less but bloat more ^-^ [11:05] BP{k}: that goes without saying of course [11:05] alienBOB: before the 24th :) [11:05] alienBOB: I just talked to the koffice folks, and they're targetting end of november for 2.1 final, so it'd be beta [11:05] Well there will be official KDE 4.3.x packages before that date, but I would have to look up koffice's release schedule [11:05] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [11:06] If anything, I can build koffice-2.0.83 packages for you next week troy [11:06] alienBOB: :) "XFce is enough for any slacker and KDE is good for any one" [11:06] ezr (n=jpb@134.241.100.250) left irc: "leaving" [11:06] not_toast (n=toast@208.233.36.250) left irc: "leaving" [11:06] init[1]: quit while you're not ahead [11:06] alienBOB: okay - I'll ping you next week - 2.1 will be a large improvement over 2.0 :) [11:06] alienBOB: thanks :) [11:06] alienBOB and troy, i'm looking at some of the OPTIONAL and updated dependencies. i could get you something quickly, but i want to spend a minute or three making sure everything is ready [11:07] vbatts: out of curiosity, building on a quick box? :) [11:07] 10-node cluster :o [11:07] Action: troy will be patient - can always build it himself if needed :) [11:07] Zordrak: i was replying these ->< alienBOB> init[1]: repeat after me: "XFCE is good. And KDE is good" , i have latency problem here :( [11:07] \o/ [11:07] troy: any KDE figurehead running Slackware gets my full support [11:07] init[1]: probably not the only problem you have. ;) [11:07] alienBOB: troy ++ [11:08] alienBOB: well, the converse it true too - any slackware person working on KDE is my hero :) [11:08] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-220-0-14.lnse1.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [11:08] god damn its about time those redmond bastards sucked up their pride and released an SP4 for XP.. im sick of doing install/sp3/trllion-billion-updates [11:08] BP{k}: :( [11:08] anyway, gotta go teach a class - later folks [11:09] LOL @ Zordrak [11:09] Zordrak: heard of nlite? [11:09] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.1.212) joined ##slackware. [11:09] i have a deployment solutien.. but you cant always use it [11:10] ah! [11:10] just been handed an SP2 laptop to bring up to code... so its -> SP3 -> trillion-billion updates [11:10] underguiz (n=undergui@unaffiliated/underguiz) joined ##slackware. [11:10] underguiz (n=undergui@unaffiliated/underguiz) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [11:10] foibles (n=guest@129.115.35.17) joined ##slackware. [11:10] Action: allend thinks that KDE-4.3.2 is much less gothic! [11:10] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:10] just ruined 3 dvd's on a bad download [11:11] damnit [11:11] man md5sum [11:11] nyRednek: md5sum ftw [11:11] nyRednek: should should have check sum it ! [11:11] will imps/2 mouse work for my USB wireless mouse? [11:11] see the new windows 7 logo? what's with the douchy lens flares and dodgey graphic sporting the talent of an average middle school student [11:11] whiten0ise: probably [11:11] init[1] Zordrak, no kidding [11:12] whiten0ise: but if youre talking about X its irrelevant [11:12] whiten0ise: hald handles input devices in 13.0 [11:12] apparently, the download saved onto a bad sector, and md5sum(an afterthought) will not complete [11:13] what if i don't want a domainname for slackerbox :( [11:14] whiten0ise, then you are darkstar [11:14] Nick change: init[1] -> init[0] [11:14] whiten0ise: you dont have to specif one [11:14] High_Priest (n=MMF@nat/ibm/x-eazdzhtuprvuuhyf) left irc: "Bye" [11:14] oh, if i hit Cancel it's not going to freak out and end the world? [11:15] i'm afraid of Cancel buttons in Linux installs [11:15] if you specify no HOSTname.. then you're darkstar [11:15] just ok a blank entry [11:15] Zordrak, that's what i was saying [11:16] do i need to put an xorg config file to make the scroll on touchpad to work correctly? [11:17] i'm sure i do [11:17] nyRednek: no [11:17] ew, slack installed like every window manager it has [11:17] lol [11:17] you told it to [11:17] whiten0ise: wrong, slackware installed what you told it to [11:17] i like fvwm [11:17] yeah, but i just looked through, only KDE was independently pulled out, so i figured it just came with KDE and others would have to be installed. [11:17] whiten0ise: point being they are there if you need them.. but if not they take up no resources but disk space [11:18] whiten0ise, most of the window managers are in xap [11:18] i actually enjoy fluxbox [11:18] whiten0ise: a full install is a full install [11:18] WHY DID OBAMA GET A NOBEL PRIZE [11:18] thats ridiculous [11:19] whiten0ise: for when youre done installing: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/2009/08/31/compiling-your-own-slackware-kernel/ [11:19] indeed, that's the biggest nobel giveaway ever [11:19] foibles: because hes the guy that replaced bush. ANYone doing that would have got one [11:19] i can think of like ten billion more qualified candidates [11:19] Zordrak: probably [11:20] foibles, and he got it over a speech that accomplished nothing [11:20] i've never heard an obama speech [11:20] but the official reason is his stance on nuclear weapons [11:20] Zordrak, the real reason is his speech in cairo [11:20] nyRednek: haha, your nick [11:20] foibles, what? i'm from the south, but live in one of the five boroughs now [11:21] the quint-borough, tri-county, fiddy-state area? [11:21] Zordrak, exactly [11:21] nyRednek: its just funny because i would do that too [11:21] Zordrak, particularly, richmond co [11:22] hooray for my 38 character root password [11:22] whiten0ise: hooray for wasting time on a password that you could have spent securing the box :) [11:22] lol [11:22] for those that care, theres an interesting prog by vmware that debugs GTK+ apps...http://chipx86.github.com/gtkparasite/ [11:23] i will still secure the box [11:23] which just means that my box will be even more secure, since my password rocks [11:23] lowercase + uppercase + symbols + digits + >=12 chars [11:23] there just IS no more secure and additional chars is a waste of time [11:23] the weakest link just wont be password security [11:23] waste time? i bet he just used a password gen [11:23] no [11:23] id be more worried of user passwords considering there is no root logins permitted [11:24] i always use: [11:24] i've guessed the password already [11:24] Action: Zordrak has already rooted whiten0ise's box :) [11:24] distro-((mynameherein1337.))[[hackerhandle]] and then a following string of 3 punctuation marks [11:24] Zordrak: i need a shell mate, set me one up on whiten0ise's box [11:24] Zordrak: I feel like you couldn't root your own hand [11:24] i always use the shema, in aramaic, and hashed against the name of the book it came from [11:24] :) [11:25] wow.. what an epic waste of a kefboard MTBF [11:25] *keyboard [11:25] samuelig (n=samuelig@154.pool85-57-134.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [11:25] whiten0ise: are you a gaussian deviate by any chance ? [11:25] naw [11:25] passwd < $(cat /home/king-james-bible) [11:26] haha [11:26] amen to that [11:26] alright, now lets see if my install works [11:26] the moment of half-truths [11:26] Zordrak, i don't use the king james [11:26] exactly [11:26] thats why you wouldnt guess it :) [11:27] Zordrak: cat abuse [11:27] i use the chumash with rashi's commentary [11:28] you mean you arent doing waveform calculations on obama's speeches and then piping them through SHA1? [11:28] god.. how insecure are YOU [11:29] akSeya (i=User@201.21.160.67) joined ##slackware. [11:29] hello [11:29] yo dawg.. we herd you like pretend security.. so we put an rsa kef around your rsa key so you can get rooted by priv escalation while you get rooted by priv escalation [11:29] * key [11:30] and since most hackers speak english, russian, or romanian, i am not worried about them guessing something i can key without thinking about [11:30] good morning [11:31] "most hackers speak english, russian, or romanian" ... eh? [11:31] rogersman: dude.. just let it go... i did :) [11:31] hehe [11:32] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [11:32] stop yourself and think... benefits of pretending you didnt see it versus benefits of starting THAT conversation [11:32] \o/ [11:32] winter: \o/ [11:32] deco's here [11:32] Zordrak, LOL [11:32] \o/ [11:32] There must be a digital revolution in romania Im unaware of...they kept that one quiet [11:33] winter: yay :) [11:33] and obama got a new paperweight [11:33] \o/ [11:33] Karu (n=alch@78-28-86-181.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:33] rogersman, i've noticed a large upswing of romanian script kiddies [11:33] ^&$%^&$#^%, #$%#$%, $%^%$^%$^. obama. [11:33] slackerz (n=dculp@208.218.214.103) joined ##slackware. [11:34] rogersman, to be honest, most actual hackers i've run into are either from the old british empire(including the US) or far east [11:34] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A31D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:34] maybe there just using romanian passwords for extra security but they're secretely hacking out of new guinea [11:34] slackerz (n=dculp@208.218.214.103) left ##slackware. [11:35] rogersman, or possibly romanian systems aren't secured as often as those in other countries [11:35] akSeya (i=User@201.21.160.67) left irc: "Leaving" [11:35] what groups do i need to put my main user in [11:35] sys,cdrom... [11:35] the old british empire which includes the US? please elobarate as I have 6 more hours at work, and need sum entertainment [11:36] to be honest.. the largest number of random connections i get are from china and ukraine [11:36] plugdev, power [11:36] rogersman, any area that once flew the british flag [11:36] or when it asks for additional groups when running adduser, use the up arrow for a basic list [11:36] whiten0ise: do NOT forget plugdev [11:36] 1 < * [11:37] s0d0 (n=bggr@host86-175-233-165.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [11:37] audio, scanner,power groups are useful [11:37] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:38] Ah, unforunately the days of the empire are long gone....the jedi have faded into the mists of time.... [11:38] is there some documentation on what each of these do? [11:38] yeah.. i cant live without the scanner group(!) O_o [11:39] kuzame (i=kuzame@2001:470:8:18b:0:0:0:65) joined ##slackware. [11:39] whiten0ise: dont worry.. if you need it.. youll come across it.. just start with plugdev, power, audio, video, cdrom and maybe sys and disk [11:39] kuzame (i=kuzame@2001:470:8:18b:0:0:0:65) left ##slackware. [11:39] sweet, i have now configured my base user and have booted into xfce [11:39] now to configure the net [11:40] whiten0ise: why didnt you do that during setup+? [11:40] because i like to do it myself in command line [11:40] fair enough [11:40] i'm used to doing it with backtrack [11:40] so i have like a network setup autopilot [11:40] ? [11:40] rogersman, hence the word 'old' before british empire [11:41] whiten0ise: take a look at /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1{.conf} [11:41] perhaps that should be {,.conf} for accuracy [11:42] foibles (n=guest@129.115.35.17) left irc: Client Quit [11:42] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) left irc: "leaving" [11:43] why am i looking at this shell script [11:44] thats what slack uses to configure your network [11:44] or, if you're lazy and use wifi to connect, wicd is nice [11:44] as well as wicd [11:44] indeed.... [11:45] but i wish wicd would roll-back resolv.conf when it's done [11:45] i'm not using wicd....my xfce has all KDE junk installed on it [11:45] that's kinda =\ [11:45] whiten0ise: /usr/share/applications [11:46] whiten0ise, wicd is in the extra/ [11:46] its all in there.. anything that looks in there will load it all up [11:46] its a proper shared layout [11:48] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [11:48] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:48] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [11:48] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:49] so how can i make xfce ignore the kde stuff and load its own stuff [11:49] if i had told slack not to install kde i wouldn't have this problem [11:49] how is it a problem? [11:49] and you can uninstall whatever you like [11:49] i'm just kind of ocd about it [11:49] i'm running xfce, but I have all this K stuff [11:50] Action: Zordrak hands you toilet paper [11:50] whiten0ise: you mean the k stuffs in the menu? [11:50] or the services ? [11:51] sQuEE (n=narya@host140.190-30-2.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:51] menu [11:51] whiten0ise: ls -la /var/log/packages | grep kde [11:52] whiten0ise: do you know what all you need from kde ? [11:52] Zordrak: i could delete all those :> [11:53] not dele [11:53] removepkg [11:53] o_O [11:53] or use pkgtool to do it from ncurses [11:53] removepkg /var/log/packages/kde* or so [11:53] deleting the entries will keep the packages installed :) [11:54] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [11:56] sQuEE (n=narya@host107.201-253-142.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [11:56] so after that i won't even have kde window manager anymore, eh? [11:56] 1 hour left [11:56] thrice`: if you remove all KDE components, no you will not have any kde components... [11:56] err [11:56] whiten0ise: ^ [11:57] Zordrak: i'm saying, deleting the entires in /var/log/packages will not remove anything from your system [11:57] thrice`: i never questioned that [11:57] lol [11:57] sigh [11:58] right back atcha [11:58] so i'm rebooting [11:58] maybe you misread my comment? [11:58] now will my xfce use the xfce stuff in its menus? [11:58] v4nelle (n=van@adsl155-152.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:58] whiten0ise, why reboot? [11:58] whiten0ise: why? [11:58] whiten0ise, just restart x [11:58] thrice`: the comment wasnt supposed to be for you... it was a mistake.. as per following line was meant for whiten0ise [11:58] whiten0ise: kill X or logout [11:59] oh, ok :) [11:59] Logout then Ctrl-Alt-Backspace [11:59] err,my lag is 20.00 [11:59] init[0], not it isn't [11:59] init[0]: how is that different from a normal day? [11:59] your lag may APPEAR 20.00 to you [11:59] but it's more like 5.00 [12:00] nyRednek: entirely depends on how you define lag [12:00] Zordrak: i'm doing a svn update here with 10KB/s [12:00] Ping reply from init[0]: 11.23 second(s) [12:00] and irssi confrimed it for me ! [12:00] Scuzz: did i say lag remains a constant? [12:00] Action: Zordrak teardrops init[0] :) [12:01] now it 6 [12:01] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:01] 11 is still horrible [12:01] nooper_ (n=nooper@unaffiliated/nooper) joined ##slackware. [12:01] Zordrak: ty :) [12:01] Ping reply from init[0]: 6.84 second(s) [12:01] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [12:01] nyRednek: now you belive me? [12:01] nooper (n=nooper@unaffiliated/nooper) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:01] init[0], i believe nothing [12:02] 09:29 < init[0]> Scuzz: did i say lag remains a constant? [12:02] 09:29 < init[0]> now it 6 [12:02] yep yep [12:02] Action: Zordrak loves having 10ms latency to anywhere in (this) country [12:02] nyRednek: where is nothing ? :D [12:02] and why is it the bash shell does not use color, and it says bash-3.1$ rather than user@domain$ [12:02] Zordrak: bullshit [12:02] init[0], there is no evidence that meets standards of proof [12:02] still only 90ms to washington DC [12:03] init[0], one need not wonder where nothing is, but that nothing exists [12:03] nyRednek: can you give me a RFC for proof std? [12:03] whiten0ise: /etc/profile [12:04] whiten0ise: set your own in ~/.bashrc [12:04] init[0], no, but i can refer you to a few philosophical arguments [12:04] thrice`: i would usually recommend .bash_profile [12:04] why? [12:04] I would recommend that he read bash(1) - the section on INVOCATION. [12:04] whiten0ise: ^^^ [12:05] lol [12:05] bashrc works fine for setting PS1 [12:05] nyRednek: people will forward us to #slackofftopic :) [12:05] init[0], indeed [12:06] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@82.225.203.40) left irc: "Quitte" [12:06] init[0], but then i would question whether it is indeed off-topic, or if the channel was incorrectly named [12:06] from reading this script, it seems to be ~/.inputrc that i would edit [12:06] thrice`: what i really do is make an /etc/bashrc and then source it from /etc/profile or .bash_profile [12:06] thrice`: i like keeping it the same across logins [12:06] well, I don't really care what you do, I'm curious as to why you think my recommendation is incorrect [12:07] to be honest i dont remember.. it was a long time ago.. but it was something to do with bash not calling the rc but still looking at _profile [12:07] Zordrak: /etc/profile.d/local_setup.sh could work as well in that regard [12:07] he doesnt remember [12:07] nyRednek: :) [12:07] ive just used the same setup ever since i went through the details [12:08] ok, that's good enough to make me wrong, I guess [12:08] i just scp /etc/profile /etc/bashrc and /root/.bash_profile to any new box [12:08] thrice`: i didnt say you were [12:08] calling all bashhead! any command to monitor passage of time i.e. time taken to complete a for loop....or would a simple diff command on date work [12:08] actually bash-3.1$ is a clear sign that bash is not actually seeing the shell as a login session. Thus it will pretty much ignore /etc/profile and .bash_profile and .bash_login. [12:08] thrice`: go check... i'll wait [12:08] phrag (n=phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left ##slackware. [12:08] phrag (n=phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [12:08] init[0], for all i know, this is a philosophy channel and the slackers are mistakenly here due to the humorous name [12:09] check what ? you recommended something OTHER than my solution, clearly you can come up with a better reason than "because it's what I do?" [12:09] O_o [12:09] rogersman: time? [12:09] thrice`: you are inferring statements that i have not maie [12:09] *made [12:09] wouldn't I change $TERM to make stuff colorful? [12:10] 12:04 < Zordrak> thrice`: i would usually recommend .bash_profile [12:10] whiten0ise: no. [12:10] thrice`: and thats all i said [12:10] @esoteric ... looks like the ticket...cheers boyo [12:10] n1hub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:10] and i didnt even say it to him.. i said it to you [12:10] wtf, slack64 still has an hour left [12:10] 1.9gb [12:10] epple (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [12:10] i just hope it will boot the dd'ed iso [12:10] adupuis_ (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:10] whiten0ise: seriously .. read the bash manpage on INVOCATION, it's a case of login vs nonlogin shell. [12:11] i installed swi-prolog-lite, how can i run it now? [12:11] whiten0ise: cp /etc/profile to ~/.bashrc [12:11] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:11] init[0]: don't be silly. [12:11] whiten0ise: try that out and you shall see colors in terminal :) [12:11] ooooh, colors [12:11] BP{k}: i have done it ! [12:12] init[0]: exactly. A reason not to do it. [12:12] okay, whilst theres a (very) active audience...anyone know how to change the foreground text color during booting ? w/ lilo [12:12] nyRednek: re-run , [12:12] init[0], correction, flashback [12:12] BP{k}: it working for me! [12:12] init[0]: even better, in your bashrc, you can just check for /etc/profile, and source it [12:13] Zordrak: you use static IPs? [12:13] nyRednek: it worked right? [12:13] init[0], iirc, yes [12:13] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:13] init[0], i just use the -ls call in xterm [12:13] BP{k}: see ! [12:13] and i get colors that way [12:13] BP{k}: you have always tagged me wrong :( [12:13] NaCl: mostly [12:14] whiten0ise: did you copy ? [12:14] Zordrak: IIRC, dhcp clients automatically kill resolv.conf. [12:14] of course, the -fg white -bg black as well [12:14] nyRednek: you do realise why though? ;) [12:14] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-45-151-98.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:15] BP{k}, the -ls call tells the program to use ls colors [12:15] Zordrak: if you want wicd to back up resolv.conf, submit a feature request, and we'll get to it when we have time [12:15] or, just set an alias in ~/.bashrc: alias ls="ls --color" [12:15] NaCl: okey-doke [12:16] NaCl: the reason is that the laptop spends most of its time on a static IP in a dacking station... but if i take it elswhere ill flip wireless on and use it.. but then i get back to the dock and have to reset the resolv.conf [12:16] nyRednek: uhm ... no. [12:16] i'd like to replicate ubuntu-netbook theme on another distro and wm, if at all possible [12:16] *docking [12:16] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [12:16] Zordrak: so write a post connect script [12:16] O_o [12:16] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:16] Nick change: n1hub -> nlhub [12:17] BP{k}: if you don't mind can you try that out as a fresh user? [12:17] allend: meh.. havent used wireless often enough to bother looking into it [12:17] init[0]: try what out? [12:17] but certainly seews like a reasonable feature req since NaCl mentioned it [12:17] cp /etc/profile ~/.bashrc [12:17] init[0]: no. [12:18] BP{k}: :( [12:18] Action: Zordrak gets his red-pen out.... [12:18] Zordrak: I don't know how NetworkManager handles resolv.conf [12:18] init[0]: you are expertly missing the point. I know that will work, but it's really not the correct way to deal with things. [12:18] Zordrak: I use wicd, but not for wireless. [12:18] NaCl: dude.. dont say the nm word.. made me shudder [12:18] samyf (n=adeodatu@92.85.208.11) joined ##slackware. [12:18] BP{k}: oh,i get ya [12:18] heh. Some of NM's technologies are probably going to be used in the next version. [12:19] i installed swi prolog lite, but dont know how to run it, any help? [12:19] taking advantage of udev and whatnot [12:19] Zordrak: FWIW, I am not the supreme arbiter of all things wicd, but that feature seems resonable. [12:19] *nod* [12:19] Action: NaCl doesn't have experience with handling feature creep [12:20] chess does :) [12:21] allend: for what it's worth, rc.inet1 is good enough for wired connections. [12:21] web_knows (n=riba@last.fm/user/web-knows) joined ##slackware. [12:22] so most installations just go ahead and set up .bashrc for you, eh [12:22] NaCl: With my laptop, I use static IP address at home but DHCP at work. wicd saves the hassle of editing. [12:22] NaCl: if you want to keep /etc/resolv.conf , you can set up DHCP_KEEPRESOLV=yes ,isn't it? [12:22] firedix (n=firedix@host195.201-252-177.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:23] allend: ok, that makes more sense [12:23] init[0]: orly? [12:23] Action: NaCl takes a look at the man pages [12:23] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [12:23] /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [12:23] NaCl: ^ [12:23] init[0]: Oh. I'm referring to inside wicd [12:24] ah! [12:24] :) [12:25] From what I could tell, the -R option to dhcpcd just makes it do nothing to the current resolv.conf [12:25] tbh i dont entirely understand the reason why DNS resolutien is still entirely within that one file [12:26] seems like the tye of thing that you could build into ifconfig & ip [12:26] epple (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:26] Zordrak: wait a second. Shouldn't wicd regenerate resolv.conf every time you reconnect? [12:27] there may be a very good reason i dont know about.. but if there isnt.. [12:27] NaCl: this is not a clean way,but what about making resolv.conf readonly [12:27] NaCl: i dont use wicd for the wired.. its just set up in inet1 i only throw wicd up because i happen to be in X and needing to hit a wlan [12:27] Oh. Um... [12:28] init[0]: something will probably explode when it tries to touch it [12:28] Zordrak: I see. I'll take a look at it. [12:29] I don't know if rc.inet1 can create resolv.conf [12:29] troy: are you on x86_64? [12:29] ciao deco [12:29] Zordrak: apparently now [12:29] *not [12:29] bah [12:29] NaCl: 99.8% of the time the laptop is for nothing but remotely SSHing in tty2 to an irssi session inside a screen on my home box while its docked at work [12:30] I'm feeling that such a feature may not be common enough to be used, but adam7 in #wicd is the BDFL [12:30] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.74.64) joined ##slackware. [12:30] so its just a - hey im somewhere random and need tinernet.. wicd will sort me out - thing [12:30] ill go bother him about it [12:30] What could cause a Input/output error for dd'ing a cd to ISO? I've done 10 out of 15 just fine but the other 5 give me the I/O error. [12:32] alright [12:32] wrote myself a ~/.bashrc shell script [12:32] we'll see how it does [12:33] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-220-0-14.lnse1.win.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [12:33] lf4: bad media [12:33] lf4: bad drive [12:33] lf4: out of space [12:33] worked [12:34] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [12:34] lf4: what's the specific command that you're running? any other options besides if and of? [12:34] Zordrak: Man I really hope not the first two. lol [12:35] Anybody using mrxvt? [12:35] esoteric: Nope just if of [12:35] Time to test with another drive. [12:36] lf4: i/o errer does mean just that [12:36] s0d0 (n=bggr@host86-175-233-165.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:36] lf4: unable to read from source or unable to write to destination [12:36] i added: alias ls='ls --color=always' to the bottom of my /etc/profile [12:36] theres only so many causes of each [12:37] Zordrak: Haha yeah I figured but was hoping maybe there could be a simple solution haha. Thanks. :) [12:37] When I compile the kernel from source I get this error:make: *** [drivers] Error 2. Why I get that error? [12:37] samyf: thats not the error [12:37] samyf: thats just the exit [12:37] Action: lf4 back to dd'ing :/ [12:38] samyf: or if you want the real answer.. you get that error because Darwin was a genius [12:38] Zordrak: Are you sure? [12:38] lol [12:38] Nick change: rgouveia_ -> rgouveia [12:40] samyf: Im not gonna help you any further because, and im being as polite as i can be here, you do not know enough about what you're doing to BE helped. You're in way over your head and have a lot of learning to do first. Someone else may try to help you.. but i just dont have enough sanity left to trudge down that dark hallway. [12:40] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:40] lol [12:40] that should be noobfarmed Zordrak [12:40] how can i refresh my prompt with my new .bashrc? [12:40] without rebooting [12:40] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.67.14) left irc: Connection timed out [12:40] source? [12:41] Necos: go nuts [12:41] whiten0ise: logout/login [12:41] whiten0ise: run bash [12:41] once again [12:41] whiten0ise: or just "su - `whoami`" [12:41] err yeah or that [12:41] Action: Zordrak smacks head.. samyf/adeodatus put my head all outta whack :) [12:44] samyf: you might want to start here: http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/Kernel-Build-HOWTO.html [12:44] s0d0 (n=bggr@host86-175-233-165.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [12:44] esoteric: he already has several guides.. dealt with that earlier [12:44] Zordrak: ahh [12:45] esoteric: he even has one thats a 10 step cannot fail process.... but then hes trying to upgrade.. not just rebuild [12:45] u iz drunked, ask any yestuons and i wil anxzwer honestl [12:45] aw man.. spooks been on the piss again [12:45] spook: o_O [12:46] spook: are you drunk ? [12:46] ff7h__ (n=jws@evvlinlwtp-sbc-01-pat.qcommcorp.com) joined ##slackware. [12:46] quiz night woooooo [12:46] init[0]: no, i [12:46] why do australians call their beer XXXX? cause theyre too drunk to spell "shit". [12:46] 'm not drunk, i'm just faiking [12:46] Zordrak: i see. now I have a little more context for your 16:38 statement. lol [12:46] Zordrak: only queenslanders drnk xxxx. it tastes like shit. [12:47] esoteric: one of our clocks is off by 2 mins :) [12:47] probably mine [12:47] pi31415 (n=bcollver@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [12:47] dhcpd.conf question : how do you remove an IP addy from the pool , is there a satement one can use ? I have just included two range statements and skipped it [12:47] Zordrak: any other question [12:47] nah... could be mine [12:47] esoteric: Thanks for the link. [12:47] ff7h__: wipe you dhcpd.leases file [12:47] wasnt really what id call a question.. i mean i know there was a question mark but.... [12:47] spook:no [12:47] spook: I wonder if he means making a pool out of all ip addresses on a network except one [12:48] oh [12:48] [OT] is any one member of riseup.net ? [12:48] ff7h__: ah, then use the "host" sgynctax in /erc/dhcpd.conf [12:48] s0d0 (n=bggr@host86-175-233-165.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [12:48] if so, maybe a permanent lease would do it [12:48] ff7h__: see man dhcpd.conf [12:48] right, i used the fixed IP stanza, and it didn't work. A host used the IP i tried to reserve [12:49] i can see that i am going to learn a lot running salck [12:49] slack [12:49] yes indeed ! [12:49] whiten0ise: thats part of the joy [12:49] dont put host declarations inside the range declarations, funky thingz hanppen [12:50] whiten0ise: live long and primpse. lack is the best the best the best the best [12:50] spook: faking my arse [12:50] Zordrak: i am gay chicken champion, be careful wwhat you ask gor [12:51] lol [12:51] where is the .xinitrc file? i can't find it in /etc/...for configuring which window manager boots up on startx [12:51] Action: Zordrak blocks with a comma [12:51] whiten0ise: ~/ [12:51] Zordrak: i hope you wont think les of mess [12:51] .xsession [12:51] is in ~/ [12:52] les would be the wrong side.... [12:52] hahaha lesbian [12:52] spook: yes. [12:52] spook: that was the joke. [12:52] :) [12:52] whiten0ise: /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.xfce <- [12:52] Zordrak: i'm drunk i'm allowedx to be slow [12:52] whiten0ise: thats where you would put it (that's what SHE said) [12:52] and yet STILLM FIX PEIPLES PROBLEMS [12:52] whiten0ise: it is symlink to ~/ [12:52] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [12:53] whiten0ise: once you run xwmconfig [12:54] samyf (n=adeodatu@92.85.208.11) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:54] Action: init[0] goone with the wind brb [12:54] i think i'm going to reinstall later, get myself a cleaner install exactly how i want it [12:54] then mess around with the scripting, stuff like that [12:54] get my vms going [12:55] and have a party [12:55] spook is drinking again... yay! [12:56] spook can be seen at spook.ucc.asn.au [12:57] and isnt drinking, is already drunks [12:57] lol [12:57] wow [12:58] spook is the antithesis of what i read about aussie boozing yesterday on bbc.co.uk [12:58] :) [12:58] ahahahaha [12:58] vastina: what did toy read abouyt aussie boozing [13:00] s0d0 (n=bggr@host86-175-233-165.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [13:00] spook: is that you? [13:00] init[0]: it suuuure is [13:00] that the perception is you lot down under get rather pissed a little often, but in your defence some reporter from brisbane was speaking about how only 30% of aussies drink heavily, while 60% some odd percentage "drink casually" while abos only account for a small percentage of drinkers, YET of their percentage 70% drink to dangerous levels [13:00] init[0]: i will proves [13:00] guys where needed user(mysql) which there is by default? [13:00] spook: you are strange today! [13:01] wow can't believe i remembered all that [13:01] oh lawl you've never really lived in 0,0?ee? [13:01] @spook, ure from oz? [13:01] init[0]: see? [13:02] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.94.160) joined ##slackware. [13:02] rogersman: how's _your_ lag? [13:02] spook what is 1*0? [13:02] I was thinking about moving to darwin...can u recommend it? [13:02] or 1x0=? [13:02] init[0]: accidental up arrow [13:02] rogersman: nooooooooo [13:02] ezr (n=jpb@134.241.100.250) joined ##slackware. [13:02] rogersman: yes i am [13:03] why not? aparts from the jellyfish [13:03] WTF? was noobfarm #1670 a joke or was he being serious? [13:03] rogersman: if anyway, i would recommend either synday, brisname or melborune [13:03] if the latter remind me to kill his hamster [13:03] rogersman: yeah move to darwin and join one of the "glam rock band" gangs [13:03] hahaha [13:03] dont evere ver ver go to hobart adleaid or darwon [13:03] spook: yes i saw ;) [13:03] my cousin did some training outside of darwin with RAF... sounds like a lovely place... [13:03] init[0]: see, itz me! [13:03] okay, but WHY not? is this sum south-north thing? [13:04] vastina: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo [13:04] rogersman: no,, its a darwin is a hole thing [13:04] so iz adelade and hob art [13:04] perth is just barely okayh [13:04] looks pretty damn gorgeous on google earth [13:04] perth is an excellent surf spot, short of golden bayt [13:04] s/bayt/bay [13:05] Weird0ne (n=julianm@endeavor.jdrush.net) joined ##slackware. [13:05] brisbane has a3wesome beaches and chciks bro. and sydney and melboure are wicked populated and popular [13:05] only really good surf spots in perth are that place starting with m [13:05] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [13:05] and like, a few beaches [13:05] spook: one single reason for a big hell no. Sweating at Christmas. [13:05] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:05] if you want good surf, got live in brisbane [13:05] all i remember about melbourne is that i was too pissed to remember [13:05] Zordrak: hell yeah [13:06] Zordrak: although i've usually pissedx all of crism,anzx [13:06] is it Christmas already? [13:06] vastina: melbourne is okay, they ahve grand prix althogyh really radical weather. all for saaon s in one day [13:06] perth is a total s**thole...oh wait, THAT perth...never mind lol [13:06] Zordrak: not for a few months [13:07] rogersman: I spook: i thought you said you were the fag? :) [13:07] can't u read? [13:07] Zordrak: no, i'm the champion of gay chicken [13:07] rogersman: obviously i cant [13:07] spook: in melbourne, like i said, all i remember is being right pissed somehow sat in a lounge in a borders book shop the next day before driving up to sydney [13:07] rogersman: i can barely play guitar hero on easy [13:07] but then as far as Im concerned.. being english.. fags come from Virginia [13:08] Zordrak: my mums english [13:08] Action: vastina is english [13:08] did anyone see the shamless plug for guitar hero 3 on the new season of heroes? abosutely cringeworthy [13:08] Zordrak: what 'football' team do you support? [13:08] spook: each time this http://spook.ucc.asn.au/ page refresh your face is getting clearer and clearer :) [13:08] spook: I dont support a 'football' team because 'football' is for 'fags' [13:09] :D [13:09] init[0]: hardly [13:09] spook: why the parentheses speaking about our beloved sport twat [13:09] Zordrak: i approve of your philisopy [13:09] vastina: because its SOCCER [13:09] spook: you use your bloody feet [13:09] hence football [13:09] hba (n=hba@189.130.29.192) joined ##slackware. [13:09] spook: i hate football as much as anyone.. but it is *called* football... [13:10] vastina: pretty sure that both AFL and gridiron have a firm right to tje wrprd football [13:10] american football should be called foot and kinda hand.. but also pussy-helmets-ball [13:10] Zordrak: what sort of english are you verbally trashing our national sport? [13:10] @Zordrak lol [13:10] Zordrak: i hate our national sport, AFL, australian rules football [13:10] tooly (n=theo@e178173198.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [13:11] @spook, at least u cant loose when u play internationals :-) [13:11] vastina: because football has overtaken religion as the major cause of pointless shit-kicking and wasted time and money [13:11] ha! give me rugger over aussie football any day, or american pansey padded 'football' for that matter [13:11] football is like a default.. if you dont have intelligence... and you dont have religion.. then football catches you [13:11] Zordrak: are you including politics into religion? [13:12] I hereby join the church of Zordrak [13:12] Zordrak: i'm well educated mate, love my football, support tottenham hotspur [13:12] doesn't negate my intellect [13:12] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:12] try{ intelligence(); } catch { try { religion(); } catch { football(); } } [13:13] poor analogy [13:13] :) [13:13] @vastina...if u just look at it as a social gathering, then fair enough...but u cant deny all the trouble caused by the army of morons that is british football fans [13:13] analagous would suggest i didnt mean _precisely_ what i said :) [13:13] p.ls im scottish, so dont assume a racist attack, nk? peace ;-) [13:13] rogersman: hooligans are just that, us MEN on the other hand, enjoy our national [international by our hand] sport [13:14] respect [13:14] lol [13:14] rogersman: at least you're not claiming paddy [13:14] :) [13:14] unfortunately, in this world, its the morons that make the most noice...just look a the rave reviews for Drag me to hell...lol [13:14] noise [13:15] >.> [13:15] what the hell did i miss? [13:15] a football debate [13:15] paddy, jocks...same thing ya gordie git! ;-) [13:15] football stadium attendees == youtube commenters [13:15] simple as :) [13:15] rogersman: you did not just call me a gordie [13:16] care to both spell geordie correctly? [13:16] Zordrak: i didn't feel like correcting the northern geordie, i'm southerner [13:16] big up surrey [13:16] :) [13:16] unless one of you is calleh Lachance.. [13:16] am i the only one at work? lol [13:17] no. [13:17] :( [13:17] i'm @ work [13:17] :) [13:17] woo surrey.. london ponces who cant be arsed to actually live there [13:17] yeah, lets F**k the economy by not working! [13:17] Zordrak: clearly, seeing as i live in Colroado, US now :) [13:17] rogersman: spook started without you [13:17] lmao [13:18] s/Colroado/Colorado [13:18] theres only ONE good thing about surrey.. ONE [13:18] Top Gear [13:18] HA!!!! [13:18] whats this i started [13:18] hi fire|bird [13:18] Action: vastina rolls [13:18] spoilers, stif is michael schoemaeker [13:18] some fucking spoilt cunt of a man driving fancy cars on endorsements... ha! [13:18] Action: Zordrak can clearly be seen in Top Gear S10E07 :) [13:18] schumacher you mean? [13:19] Zordrak: you were there? [13:19] Zordrak, really? [13:19] vastina: spoilt? i bet hes worked a lot harder in his life than you ever have [13:19] is it a problem if i dont have a pulse? [13:19] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:19] yessiree [13:19] thats's not true...surrey (and other surrounding crapholes) , makes us scots appreciate our beautiful land that much more...hehe [13:19] Zordrak: i don't know... the whole war of the worlds statue in Woking is so cool... just... so cool [13:19] spook: nah.. itll come back [13:19] @vastian...chill [13:20] Zordrak: nah, he hasn't, guaranteed, i won't elaborate [13:20] no rly huyz i dont have a pulse [13:20] hi metrofox [13:20] Im not telling you exactly when cause i had stupid hair at the time.. but i was in pretty much half of the shot at one poent [13:20] *point [13:20] unixfool (n=ron@about/slackware/wigglit) joined ##slackware. [13:21] oooooh theres my pulse [13:21] spook: dont worry.. its what happens when you replace your blood with alcohol [13:21] if repackaging a precompiled binary does it matter if it is *.rpm or *.deb format? Either one recommended over the other? [13:21] Zordrak: i kno rite? [13:21] neonflux: w t f?! [13:22] mad_ (n=mad@brsg-d9bef6b1.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [13:22] Zordrak: where are you? [13:22] neonflux: i would recommend repackaging the package using a slackbuild if at all possible [13:22] if you don't mind [13:22] neonflux: or compiling from source [13:22] hey guys [13:22] Action: Zordrak stabs unixfool for visiting this channel once a year [13:22] i'm new to slackware, be gentle [13:22] spook: source isn't available...and yes I'm using a slackbuild [13:22] precompiled binary? as opposed to a compiled binary? -- i'm confused [13:23] @neonflux...wot u mean by "repackaging"...? [13:23] mad_, it depends :P [13:23] convert to tgz? = alien [13:23] rogersman: yes, repackaging...that is what I meant [13:23] i installed swaret, but all it does, is shwoing the version when i do a swaret --update or anything else [13:23] vastina: within a circle that encompasses sheffield, scunthorpe, lincoln and nottingham.. depending what time of the day it is and whether i have a choice [13:23] metrofox: fail [13:23] whoops [13:23] neonflux: convert to tgz, extract it to somewhere like /tmp/packagename and examine it for wierd ness [13:23] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-142-187.ip102.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [13:23] mad_: fail [13:23] mad_, don't use swaret... [13:23] mad_: swaret is not supported [13:24] Zordrak, ;) [13:24] mad_: dont use swaret, using slackpkg, its included in /ap/ in 13.0 [13:24] spook: I actually did ---> rpm2cpio < $CWD/$PRGNAM.$PKGARCH.rpm | cpio -imdv [13:24] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A72AD9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:24] Zordrak: mobile engineering or it work? quite a coverage [13:24] s/it/IT [13:25] similar to how rworkman did openoffice [13:25] mad_, OR if you really don'y wanna use slackpkg for some reason you can also use slapt-get to manage third party repository [13:25] mad_: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/2009/09/28/slackware-package-management-guide/ [13:25] *don't [13:25] mad_, http://beginlinux.com/desktop_training/168-slackware/1427-slackware-package-management [13:25] Action: slackytude sniff's [13:25] smells like a newbie [13:25] vastina: only on vodaphone [13:25] thats good, Im hungry [13:26] lakan (n=lakan@davsam.csbnet.se) joined ##slackware. [13:26] slackboy, wanna a fork and a knife? [13:26] Action: vastina is still wondering why is was called a misspelt geordie [13:26] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FE3EE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:26] s/is/he [13:27] vastina meant: s/is/he/ :P [13:27] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FD8A5.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:27] 18:15:47 < vastina> rogersman: you did not just call me a gordie [13:27] 18:16:03 < Zordrak> care to both spell geordie correctly? [13:27] yeah i repeated the misspell [13:27] @vastina...all those south of the border are considered georgies...a gross generlisation, but there u go ;-) [13:27] dr technical [13:27] 18:16:57 < Zordrak> unless one of you is calleh Lachance.. [13:27] :) [13:27] rogersman: no. [13:28] Zordrak: i'm allowed to speel wong [13:28] no what? [13:28] spook: no.. youre allowed to make typos [13:28] you're wrong and don't know what a geordie is [13:28] im merely stating a widely held opinion [13:28] Zordrak: and spell with z insdie of s as well? or is that unforive able? [13:28] ezr (n=jpb@134.241.100.250) left irc: "leaving" [13:28] like, your family's opnion? [13:29] spook, you drunk again? [13:29] spook: ill let you off with them [13:29] slackytude: just a bit [13:29] spook, or just bad at spelling [13:29] I see [13:29] For Certain Values Of "bit" [13:29] heh [13:29] mad_, get out, don't be scared... slackytude won't eat you... [13:29] another two pints and we have noobfarm material again [13:29] slackytude: been and gone [13:30] thats right, I just ate a windows admin [13:30] he's onto the relapse stage [13:30] whats a pint, about 500ml? [13:30] yeah [13:30] 576 iirc [13:30] imperial pint [13:30] then i've had about 8 pints [13:30] or is i t586 [13:30] some whacky number [13:30] spook: no wonder youre slumped over about to puke on the laptop :) [13:30] debug with ennio. [13:31] 8 pints is not a bit [13:31] Zordrak: i never puke, [13:31] unless you drink some weak pussy beer [13:31] @spook, i thought u were in oz? dont u guys use pints? [13:31] slackytude: depends if its australian, europan or american beer... if its american . could still do calculus after 8 pints [13:31] except once when i drank like, a whole bottle of whiskey on my own, in less than an hour, on an empty stomach, and pulked for like 3 hours [13:31] rogersman: we use jugs :) [13:31] Zordrak, aye [13:32] spook, thats disgusting [13:32] like in crocodile dundee? [13:32] wasting whiskey like that [13:32] slackytude: it was epic [13:32] Action: Zordrak drinxs Magners, Guinness or, if i want to punish myself, Stella Artois [13:32] Zordrak, are those beers? [13:32] or vodka & red bull if im on a boat [13:33] drank some dark beer last friday, no clue what brand, but it was fresh and fast and tasty [13:33] and the waitress looked good ^-^ [13:33] where u @ slackytude? [13:33] Magners = Cider, Guinness = Irish Stout, Stella Artois = French Lager [13:33] haha... [13:34] rogersman, Germany http://imagebin.org/66926 [13:34] Stella Artois is commonly known as Wife-Beater around these parts due to the agressive affect it is knows to have [13:34] hahaha [13:34] eh, french lager [13:34] Guinness is the Slackware of beers [13:34] Zordrak: do they not serve it unless you've wearling a wifebeater? [13:34] slackboy, is that a nazi-UFO? [13:34] and Magners is the fluxbox of cider :) [13:34] metrofox, slackytude, and yes [13:34] Zordrak, my friends have done stupid things while on stella artweezies [13:34] spook: :)( [13:34] lol nice pic... [13:34] Zordrak: funny sotrym, we were discussing wether you could live off guiness alone or not [13:34] metrofox, they are made in Bielefeld [13:35] Action: vastina drinks Speckled Hen, Bass, Avery Brewing, O'dell Brewing, Oskar Blues, Boulder, Bristol, Dogfish Head, Court Avenue, Sierra Nevada, Red Lion, etc... [13:35] slackytude sorry... [13:35] BP{k} knows it [13:35] to name a very few [13:35] epple (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [13:35] vastina, maybe faster to list those you dont drink [13:35] slackytude: true [13:35] haha [13:35] i dont pick and choose.. i find what i like and thats what i drink.. same as linux.. i found i like slack and thats what i use.. liberally [13:35] Action: metrofox drinks pepsi, coca-cola, water and a little italian beer sometimes... [13:36] eww italian beer? wtf is that? peroni? ahahah [13:36] if giuness is the slackware of drinks, stella artois is definitely ubuntu [13:36] i installed swi-prolog-lite package, how do i run the program? [13:36] Zordrak: people who use other distros are just epople who havent seen the light and know that slack is the best distro yet [13:36] metrofox, and how old are you [13:36] = [13:36] ? [13:36] vastina, no, moretti [13:36] slackboy, young... I'm so young... [13:36] just depends if im in a stout, lager, cider or spirits mood as to whether its guinness, stella, magners or vodka [13:36] birra moretti is... ok at best [13:36] metrofox, mentaly or physicaly? [13:37] slackboy, both [13:37] nah ubuntu is coors light [13:37] :P I'm 14 ;) [13:37] what's bud? windoze? [13:37] bud is something i smoke, i don't drink swag [13:37] metrofox, ah, then dont drink, its disgusting.. Unless you turn 21 then it magically becomes the nectar of the gods [13:37] ubuntu is what is left in a public toilet in a football stadium after a chelsea vs middlesborough match [13:37] Zordrak: haha! [13:37] Zordrak, you mean vista [13:38] or windows ME [13:38] @zordrak hehe [13:38] no, Win Ce [13:38] no... vista is not that good [13:38] oh [13:38] vista is the dried up remains after Leeds Festival [13:38] I tried windows 2008 core today [13:38] what a lame OS [13:38] slackboy, I like drinking a cocktail sometimes... When I'm out with friends I drink something... [13:38] I mean, really [13:38] ruben23 (n=RPL@122.55.48.243) joined ##slackware. [13:38] slackboy, ... [13:38] Tab always fails to me... [13:38] metrofox, you in the US? [13:39] slackytude, no... ;( [13:39] windows 7 is actually decent, compared to the massive fail of vista [13:39] metrofox, your tabbing is still weak. there is a lot you have still to learn, padawan [13:39] spook: DIE [13:39] straterra: YOU HEAR ME? VISTA SUCKS [13:39] hi guys [13:39] spook, ROTFL [13:39] spook: im so sick of that propagandist lie [13:39] hi ruben23 [13:39] spook: let me explain [13:39] Zordrak: its a he who must not be named troll [13:39] epple (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:40] spook: 7 is pretty much Vista with small changes, dumbass [13:40] they didn't rewrite everything for 7 [13:40] Zordrak: i put them side by side in kvm, with xp, and 7 was actually bareable [13:40] I thought the new version of windows was supposed to be great, with such innovation features as "power shell", "user restriction policies","virtual memory allocation", oh wait...im using slackware...that's handy [13:40] So..if 7 is zomgamazing, Vista shares a lot of that [13:40] slackytude, what does padawan mean? [13:40] ye gods, it begins [13:40] pfha! power shell?? [13:40] straterra: are you hostting a laynch party you faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag [13:40] metrofox, seen star wars? padawan is what you are before you are a jedi [13:40] there are like 5 major complaints with vista that everone bitches about. MS made them better for 7. So now everyones humping 7's leg... without realising that whiule they were fixing those 5 issues they were taking a massive crap all over the rest of it [13:41] slackytude, no... never seen star wars... [13:41] I'm..pretty sure I'm not a fag. I get vagina any time I want. [13:41] metrofox, O_o dont they teach you anything in school? [13:41] and no, I'm not hosting a launch party. And I killed off my last Slackware server [13:41] straterra, you a girl? [13:41] oh... this one man here @ work has a child named jedi... must've been so named to harden him as he gets the shit kicked out of himself at school [13:41] slackytude, you know how school works here... It sucks :P [13:41] slackytude: Nope [13:41] slackytude: yeah he is [13:41] straterra, oh, thought you get bagina everytime you want [13:41] he's half girl... LOL ;) [13:41] vagina even, lol [13:42] "he"..English fail [13:42] dont knock bagina [13:42] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.1.212) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:42] rogersman, you met her? [13:42] Zordrak: xp is pretty old, i'll probably move to 7 eventually on my windows desktop install [13:42] its the bit between the arse and vagina [13:42] troy: http://cardinal.lizella.net/~vbatts/kde/kde4-packages/4.3.2/x86_64/ see koffice, wv2 and eigen2. everything seems _okay_ so far [13:42] eh [13:42] spook: ew fail ew fail ew fail [13:42] win7 > xp [13:42] rogersman: thats called a twerent [13:42] Zordrak: EVENTUALLY, like SP1 win7 [13:42] straterra, may you provide a few vaginas to me? :P [13:43] rogersman: cause if itwerent there her guts'd fall out [13:43] i'm just going to replace all my openbsd and slackware intallations with windows 7... it's so cool looking [13:43] spook: not here. [13:43] vastina, heh [13:43] that's terrible zordrak...tho i did laugh a bit lol [13:43] web_knows (n=riba@last.fm/user/web-knows) left irc: "Am I dead? ... Far from it." [13:43] Zordrak: well i play quite a lot of games that dont plauy nice with wine, so .... [13:44] spook: i can forgive ONE gaming rig... but anything else and ill slit you up a treat :) [13:44] spook: So..tell me what was so terrible about Vista that is fixed in 7 that makes it so much better [13:44] Zordrak: all my other machines run slackware and i have pxew installs + netowkr isntalls full yset up [13:45] strterra: well for one, you like vista to i automaticall hate it [13:45] pxew installs and netowkr isntalls? That shit is LEET [13:45] lets be rational, if none of us had access to mininova, would we acutally PAY for windows? [13:45] rogersman: Yes.. [13:45] WHY? [13:46] I run two fully legal copies of Vista Ultimate and a legal copy of Vista Business [13:46] Because..I find it worth the price? [13:46] rogersman: no.. but i dont mininova.. i use the keys that come with windows boxes that have been reinstalled with slack :) [13:46] Why does anyone buy anything? [13:46] if I wouldn't have access to mininova I wouldn't even buy a PC LOL [13:46] Zordrak: which is illegal [13:46] thanks to msdnaa i continue to not pay anything for windows [13:46] msdnaa ftw :) [13:46] well, when there is a superior product for FREE.... [13:46] thanks to linux i continue not using windows [13:46] my uni once gave me ALL their keys for the year [13:46] rogersman: there isn't. [13:47] madbear++ [13:47] there isn't an OS that can replace 100% of the pros of Windows. [13:47] the receptionist just didnt get what she was s-upposed to do [13:47] @straterra, u know ur in slackware irc right? [13:47] aye, If I use windows, Id probably buy it [13:47] rogersman: So? [13:47] pros = games [13:47] but I used to pirate it as well when I was younger [13:47] ##slackware != ##hate-every-other-os [13:47] and "perceived" user friendliness [13:47] dude is straterra being an unimaginable cockring again? tell him to gtfo [13:47] straterra: you really need to GTFO [13:47] straterra, slackware = best OS ever :P [13:47] party crashing dochebag [13:47] Zordrak: donte and done [13:47] actually i meant linux in general [13:48] dochebag? [13:48] donte? [13:48] straterra: ytou;re a fag who is gay for windows in the butt etc [13:48] ytou;re! [13:48] linux is #2 to me, after bsd [13:48] vastina, you're right! [13:48] vastina: while i disagree.. i respect your opinion [13:48] slackware is #1 for my linux usage though [13:48] why bsd ? [13:48] I mean... They're different... [13:48] if u had, say, a PS3, what need would u have for windows? [13:48] Why is it all of the idiots in here have trouble spelling basic words? [13:49] lakan: i'm more comfortable with it, it's a preference, not a flame war [13:49] bas is nice [13:49] man [13:49] bsd is nice [13:49] rogersman: gaming..windows only software..development environment [13:49] slackytude, I wanna install that someday... [13:49] PC Gaming isn't the same as console gaming by far [13:49] Zordrak: appreciate your respect brother :) [13:49] haha [13:49] vastine: k , i understand [13:50] metrofox, its fine stuff. I didnt find it hard to transport a lot of linux knowledge over [13:50] straterra: butt butt you're gay for windows in the butttttt [13:50] I don't think you can be gay "for" something..especially in a body part. [13:50] Try again [13:50] slackytude, I'd install it just to know more about free software and to know another OS... expanding my mind.. :P [13:51] calm down girls. there is no need for this [13:51] slackytude, ROTFL [13:52] i was actually using GNU software before i even knew that windows was some poorly written exotic operating system out there gaining popularity with hand-out recipients [13:52] vastina, too slack to read that all :P [13:52] metrofox, doing stuff for fun and to know more is a fine motivation. Id think you'll like bsd, if you like slack. definitly try it out someday [13:53] vastina, heh, old scholl [13:53] damnit [13:53] old school [13:53] slackytude: use sed notation [13:53] :) [13:53] spelling gremlins are strong tonite, for sure [13:53] slackytude, yeah... I'm getting documented reading the handbook, that seems good... I know I'll like it =) [13:53] The Moon is Waning Gibbous (68% of Full) [13:54] NASA shoot the moon smaller [13:54] It was bigger yesterday, Im sure of it [13:54] slackytude, I had the same impression too... [13:54] probably ignited a chain-reaction in the moons core that will eat all the mass [13:54] mark my words, it will decrease further [13:55] Ive deducted this, like, scientifically, and shit [13:55] deducted or deduced? you could mean either... [13:55] :) [13:55] Have any of you actually integrated a Slackware machine in to LDAP? [13:55] Action: vastina hopes it will be possible for him to take a shit on martian soil one day [13:55] straterra: no you were too gay so i just couldnt do it [13:55] I did use NIS once, back on slack 10.2 [13:56] troll troll troll [13:56] slackytude: im still using NIS on slack a little bit [13:56] Zordrak, exploded in my face [13:56] while migrating away from it to LDAP/stand-alone [13:56] nis works pretty well.. in fart the NIS server is now a slack 12.2 box [13:56] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [13:56] heh *fact [13:56] it can do work well, but I was young and careless [13:57] i dont like it.. but right now it _works_ [13:57] brought the whole network down [13:57] *it* did... or *you* did? :p [13:57] wasnt one of my happinest customers, all in all [13:57] I did [13:57] but it exploded [13:57] So..no ldap? [13:58] it's dufinitely delicate [13:58] straterra, no yet, but its on my todo list, got any pointers? [13:58] s/u/i/ [13:58] slackytude: use PAM [13:58] s/s\/u\/i\//s\/u\/e\// [13:58] straterra, I shall keep it in mind, altho I was hoping nss_ldap was enough [13:58] straterra: I've done a bit of LDAP, but not on slackware; on RH distros only [13:59] straterra, know what to change on the AD? [13:59] slackytude: Well..good luck then [13:59] so what's the most efficient practice to always knowing your ip of your dhcp home host? cron pings to one of my static shells elsewhere? or? looking for opinions as i know there's many ways to do this [13:59] You can use LDAP without AD [13:59] nss_ldap works well.. but it has a flaw in that passwords have to be stored in LDAP as crypt [13:59] straterra, maybe I wasnt clear. I was under the impression that the scheme has to be changed on the win side [13:59] you cant do the standard bind-authentication that other ldap apps do [13:59] Only if you use AD [14:00] And even then..I don't think so [14:00] I've done apache LDAP stuff without changing anything [14:00] so, we still flaming? i missed the last few minutes lol [14:00] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [14:00] but.. in most cases theres no need to have ldap replace the unix auth [14:00] maybe it was already changed. got services for unix activted on you DC? [14:00] Nope [14:00] rogersman, no, and dont start [14:00] hrm [14:00] hehe...okay [14:00] you have individual unix auth and then de application level auth against ldap for the services you provide to users [14:01] yavohl! [14:01] That's fine and dandy, if every app you want to use supports LDAP [14:01] Not a lot do [14:01] Id like to have AD accounts on a linux achine for login and ssh [14:01] in the end.. i dont want my users to have accounst the slack servers recognise [14:01] slackware would be nice [14:01] Action: metrofox is gonna have dinner now.. [14:01] see ya later guys ;) [14:01] see ya [14:02] time for a more optimal slackware reinstall! [14:02] here we go! [14:02] whiten0ise: dont do it [14:02] why? [14:02] IMO the only reason to install less is if you really need the disk space [14:02] well then [14:02] the bits youre not using are there if you find you need them later and theyre using no resources except space [14:03] how can i make it not try to DHCP my eth0 in bootup [14:03] that takes like an extra 10 seconds to fail, because i'm wireless [14:03] whiten0ise: pointed you at it earlier [14:03] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-xugdjzentvazkeou) left irc: [14:03] /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [14:03] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [14:03] so where i told it to try to DHCP eth0 in setup is in there? [14:04] you could use pkgtool to run setup script again [14:04] if that was your question [14:04] USE_DHCP[0]="yes" [14:05] although i think thats the defaulth [14:05] so you do USE_DHCP[0]="no" [14:05] i dont recall exactly.. i dont use dhcp at all [14:05] unless wicd is doing it [14:05] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:05] or PxE [14:05] err [14:05] we [14:08] i generally do not DHCP either [14:08] i just set my IP in inet1.conf and dont look back [14:10] my home grown shared calendar for outlook clients without exchange grows daily [14:10] sharing it now over WAN, with ftp push [14:10] slackytude: have you been by my blogpost on kronolith's performance problem? [14:10] (if you are still using it..) [14:10] also, adding palms to it soo and have a web-entry system for new meetings [14:11] Zordrak, no, horde wasnt useful for me [14:11] Zordrak, I mean home grown [14:11] kk.. what have you moved to? [14:11] srsly? [14:11] geronimo9 (n=geronimo@173-162-16-249-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [14:11] coding much? [14:12] well, its a slack box, an external web hoster, intranet windows apache, a php calender, some bash, some python, glue and hope [14:12] > php calendar < ? [14:12] funny enough, the proccessing is done on a VM slack and pushed over samba to the apache running on windows [14:12] phpical [14:13] ugh [14:13] http://phpicalendar.net/ [14:13] serverfail [14:13] its good [14:13] serverfail? [14:13] hmmmm perhaps dnsfail [14:13] whut? [14:13] boomernang (n=kvirc@220-253-15-22.VIC.netspace.net.au) left irc: Client Quit [14:14] phpicalendar.net NXDOMAIN [14:14] works here [14:14] *nod* jumping nets# [14:14] hmm [14:14] Action: Zordrak goes to twat his dns server [14:15] i just configured my wireless in rc.inet1.conf [14:15] rather than rc.wireless [14:15] 80.156.86.78 [14:15] wtf? [14:15] all dns seems fine.. just not that domain [14:16] Action: Zordrak puts his money on having not updated his blackhole list in quite a while [14:16] okay, now bootup is spamming me with Failed to connect to wpa_supplicant - wpa_ctrl_open: No such file or directory [14:16] eddief (n=eddie@pool-141-157-196-155.ny325.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:17] WHAT THE? [14:17] on my home box: host:~$ host phpicalendar.net [14:17] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [14:17] phpicalendar.net has address 165.91.51.121 [14:18] Host phpicalendar.net not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) [14:18] it went unavailable between the host lookup and the MX lookup(!!) [14:18] it has some issues [14:18] this is .. what the? .. for the love of.. for.. but.. [14:19] O_o rdns: dimer.tamu.edu [14:19] seems to be switching IP's [14:19] Address: 80.156.86.78 [14:19] was i not supposed to configure my wireless in rc.inet1.conf? that would make sense since there is a rc.wireless [14:20] bloody texans [14:20] Address: 62.157.140.133 [14:20] slackytude: hmm [14:20] one works, other doesnt [14:20] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:20] opendns only gives me the working one [14:20] my ISP dns gives me both, not working first [14:20] whiten0ise: honestly.. just set no dhcp in rc.inet1.conf and use wicd for the wifi [14:21] anyway, its nice [14:21] I have to tweak it to add input [14:21] coz it just display [14:21] s [14:21] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:21] which I have to sync back to home, somehow [14:21] Nick change: phoenix^ -> fire|bird [14:22] and avoid read-writer problems [14:22] whiten0ise: rc.wireless is for the WiFi (Layer2) bit.. rc.inet1.conf is- for the network (Layer3) bit [14:22] and then there are the palms [14:22] each day its either a feature request or a bug or a pebak [14:22] and combinations [14:23] and I have no time to document or tell the "admins" how to set it up [14:23] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:23] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:23] whiten0ise: and FYI rc.wireless isnt a config file its a scrit [14:23] and the code needs to be refactored [14:23] but it works fine, eh [14:23] its fun [14:23] it uses /etc/wpa_supplicant and (if exists) /etc/rc.d/rc.wireless.conf [14:23] especially, since it means I dont need to talk to customers [14:24] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:24] (...ant.conf) [14:24] i hate customers [14:24] users are bad but customers are just epic bastards [14:24] also, there is the fact the outlook just ignores standarts or common sense [14:25] and timezones is just an invention of the devil [14:25] its seriously fucked up [14:25] I try to keep everything UTC but there is daylight saving and whatnot [14:26] it wouldnt be as bad if people would know the logic behind timezones and why all dates are off an hour suddenly [14:26] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:27] [14:27] Nick change: moh2a -> mohaa [14:27] you people can talk too now [14:27] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:28] Zordrak: i don't think i have wicd, it's not in my menu [14:28] its in /extra [14:28] on the install media [14:28] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:28] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.1.212) joined ##slackware. [14:29] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.159.132) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:29] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:29] adeodatus (n=rm@92.82.80.179) joined ##slackware. [14:30] hello [14:30] wicd is not in extra in 13 [14:31] when i do a slackpkg update it gives me this: http://pastebin.com/m28eed89c [14:31] how do i solve this? [14:31] wicd is in extra in 13 [14:31] mad_, df -h [14:31] twolf, oh? [14:31] yes, it is. i'm looking at it right now [14:32] oh [14:32] slackytude: ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/extra/ [14:32] in /media/SlackDVD/extra/wicd [14:32] alrite, I belive you [14:32] I was clearly wrong [14:32] slackytude: say sorry now [14:32] let me introduce you to my laywer, Dr Gonzo [14:32] am i the only person that pronounces wicd as "wicked" [14:32] he shall handle this case [14:32] yeah, disc full :( [14:33] slackytude: guten tag!, oliver kahn! [14:33] mad_, solution: rm * [14:33] KAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHNNNNN! [14:34] whiten0ise, I do as well [14:34] i pussied out and taxied home [14:34] using misapprotriated cluin moneys [14:34] <3 being on exec [14:34] i'm educational vp, for the 3rd year running, unopposed [14:35] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-105-15.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:35] thats good? [14:35] yo fredoslack [14:35] vbatts: installing koffice now - I'll give you feedback in 10 mins [14:36] spook, sounds like you have to wear ties [14:36] hi slackytude =) [14:36] slackytude: i really dont lol [14:36] slackytude: just means i can steal moneys from the club [14:36] spook, nice [14:37] geronimo9 (n=geronimo@173-162-16-249-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left ##slackware. [14:37] mad_ (n=mad@brsg-d9bef6b1.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:38] slackytude: one of the other perth unis, am cpuple of people stole about 40,000AUD from the post grad club [14:38] thats a lot [14:38] whiten0ise: That's how wicd is supposed to be pronounced [14:38] excellent. [14:39] i really am going to reinstall, going to do more efficient hard disk usage [14:39] slackytude: yes, it is. [14:39] i'm going to kick my root dir down a couple gigs, and up my /home dir about 1 gig. [14:39] slackytude: we only have 2.4k in the guild bank last i checked [14:39] or maybe like 500 megs [14:39] 1 gig? [14:39] i'm going to give a couple of friends ssh access over a vpn [14:39] ssh over vpn? [14:39] eh [14:40] taxi drivers dont deserve any of the shit they get [14:40] what size is your drive? for a desktop/laptop single-user type system, /home should be big enough that 1 gig won't add much to it... [14:40] spook, aye [14:40] i was ;ike heres $22. keep the change [14:40] and was like, its 22.40 [14:40] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:40] i'm running linux on a 32gb ssd [14:40] amd iow as ;iole ooooh [14:40] spook, lol [14:40] thjem jes ;ole, dpomt worry [14:40] and io was like, mate, you're a bnloody legend [14:40] and i use multiple 500GB 7200s for storage [14:41] i use paper [14:41] even though he didnt seka english weel, and was probably dont born in auis [14:41] whiten0ise: You don't dedicate one of those 500G drives as /home? [14:41] no [14:41] hello, ssh over vpn? [14:41] yes? [14:41] slackytude: makes perfect sence? [14:41] Action: Dominian slaps acidchild [14:41] sshfs is awesome [14:42] as init[0] discovered this adfernoon it hinl, i dont reall remember [14:42] whiten0ise: OS: RAID1 Western Digital Velociraptors, STORE: RAID61 12x1TB WD+Seagate Enterprise-Class SATAII [14:42] takes a long ass time to sync [14:42] =] [14:42] just ssh or vpn [14:42] why both? [14:42] Dominian: have you done the hosting soruce thing yet? [14:42] double encryption [14:42] spook: because you're a dumbass [14:42] sigh [14:42] if the vpn is crypted, then it's overkill [14:42] slackytude: unless its a good vpn, ssh is all you need [14:42] straterra: i hate you so much [14:42] spook, thats my point [14:42] whiten0ise: i wouldnt mind the SSD.. but the velociraptors give 300G instead of 32G [14:42] go for triple encryption: rot13 all the commands in your ssh session! [14:42] spook: no [14:42] i always rot13 twice for good measure [14:43] when it comes to my pen testing lab, i don't mind overkill on security. [14:43] spook: I haven't been given any guidelines :P [14:43] none of you will probably get this encruptuing joke, but triple DES is all you need. [14:43] no its not. [14:43] Dominian: must be 12cm long and 8m wide [14:43] Dominian: i'll give you gudioe lines [14:43] 3DES sucks [14:43] What's an encruptuing joke? [14:43] 3DES isn't all that bad. [14:43] white, why does 3des suck [14:43] AES256 > 3DES [14:43] In fact, DES is a damn good synchronous cipher, but it suffers from a short key length. 3DES basically gives it a longer key length. [14:43] or at least it used to be, probably not now. AES is cracked now [14:44] white, back up your shizznitz, explain how its better [14:44] AES is not cracked. [14:44] yes it is [14:44] No, it is not. [14:44] yes, it is. [14:44] Alan_Hicks: 3 DES is HORRIBLE [14:44] why dont you any get the joke [14:44] whiten0ise: cite your source. [14:44] k hold on [14:44] tripple DES is less secure than single DES [14:44] it is not cracked. there are aes implementations, namely ones that use simple IVs that are vulnerable to watermarking attacks [14:44] _bruno (n=bruno@201-13-184-74.dial-up.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:44] but there's no crack [14:45] mancha: exactly. [14:45] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-105-15.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [14:45] except for the crack in the bumhole that white's talking out of :>? [14:46] "Until May 2009, the only successful published attacks against the full AES were side-channel attacks on specific implementations." [14:46] (side-channel being pretty much the obvious key here) [14:46] whiten0ise: Are you possibly referring to AES's use of SHA in certain implimentations? [14:46] I use 4096-bit RSA for all of my communication [14:46] straterra: I pity you then. [14:46] why so [14:46] 4096 is way overkill too [14:46] Dominian: guidel;ine 1: explicitely state that you offer no support and that the mirror exists only because the projects no longer offer the source code [14:46] RSA is strong, but it's SLOW as hell. [14:47] I write all my messages on a head of a slave [14:47] Alan_Hicks: Just for my VPN tunnels [14:47] i love rsa. [14:47] Dominian: guideline 2: delete any sources for stuff that slackbuilds no longer use [14:47] straterra: What VPN are you using? [14:47] Open [14:47] here's a pdf on cracking AES with FPGAs [14:47] Ah, then you're mistaken. [14:47] by the time they brute a 1024 key of your straterra you'll be dead [14:47] OpenVPN uses SSL... which is a synchronous cipher. [14:48] http://bass.gmu.edu/reports/Pawel_Chodowiec_MS_Thesis_Defense.pdf [14:48] It only uses RSA for key exchange for performance reasons. [14:48] boojit (n=boojit@gw.carter.to) joined ##slackware. [14:48] Then yeah [14:48] check this [14:48] http://vimeo.com/6496886 [14:48] Nearly all VPNs and similar things do this. Your web browser does it too. [14:48] fresh form ./ [14:48] Nick change: g4tt0 -> t4cch1n0 [14:48] My openvpn tunnel is pretty slow..I think I need to check MTU [14:49] Basically, when you make an SSL connection to a remote computer, the server generates a random syncronous key and exchanges it with you via RSA. [14:49] openvpn is a neat implementation to be honest. i just don't like to go non-standards [14:49] # Go Alan, Go Alan, Go Alan .. [14:49] Those keys get changed at regular intervals as well. [14:49] straterra: i think its just a problem caused by your gayness for windows [14:49] Alan_Hicks: <3 you. slackbook ruloes [14:49] If it used RSA all the time, the connection would just creep along... [14:50] mancha: non-standard?! [14:50] Alan_Hicks: while your _right there_ .. [14:50] Zordrak: Yes? [14:50] Alan, it is not standards-based [14:50] Alan_Hicks: is there anything useful to volunteer for to help v3 on its merry way? [14:50] mancha: Yes it is. SSL is very much a standard. [14:51] SSL is not what i am talking about [14:51] Zordrak: At this moment, yes. Keep on my ass about v3 anytime you see me. I'm busy as hell, so kicks in the pants help me prioritize. [14:51] mancha: Then what? [14:51] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:51] The fact that openvpn isn't shipped on Sonicwall and every other piece of shit "Internet Security Device"? [14:52] I prefer openvpn over ipsec because it doesnt require support for a specific protocol [14:52] Also, ipsec is a serious bitch to configure and get right. [14:52] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@124.43.63.40) joined ##slackware. [14:52] Alan_Hicks: definitely might help 13 DVD sales.. i cant justify the v2 book, so i cont justify the combo right now [14:53] Alan_Hicks: but if theres anything i can do to help with it.. [14:53] For that reason, most serious cryptographers don't recommend it for most tasks. [14:53] no, there are things called standards, which are deveoped and accepted, ipsec, pptp, etc have them [14:53] openvpn does not have one [14:53] mancha: Yes it does. It's called SSL. [14:53] ok, i'm not getting through :) [14:54] Possibly because it's not getting through your skull that SSL is an encryption standard. [14:54] Alan_Hicks: looooove you [14:54] no, there are vpn standards out there. a little google will help you grok the concept [14:55] mancha: No, there are no "VPN standards". There are "encryption standards" and then there are VPN *implimentations*. [14:56] IPsec, pptp, and others are both implimentations, and they include a (supposed) encryption standard. [14:56] hm. So IPSEC isn't a VPM standard? (not trying to be argumentative, seriously asking a question, cause I dunno) [14:56] IPSEC is a standart of IPv6 [14:56] openvpn is an implimentation of an encryption standard. [14:56] jimi (n=jimi@68.166.53.50) joined ##slackware. [14:56] Urch, there are, here are key exchange stanrds and so forth [14:57] is anyone able to even start xxgdb on slackware64? [14:57] mancha, ssl is a standard key exchange protocol [14:57] ipsec is an encryption standard, but everyone has different (and often incompatable) implimentations of ipsec. [14:57] installations that come in the form of "bin" files....can their contents be easily viewed/extracted ? [14:57] IPSec is frigging EVIL [14:57] hmm..my mtu's are fine. I wonder why my VPN tunnel is so slow [14:57] Alan_Hicks: ah, so it's a standard nobody quite follows :( [14:57] Urchlay, its in IPv6 [14:57] adeodatus (n=rm@92.82.80.179) left irc: Client Quit [14:58] I use openvpn for my ipv6 tunnels :P [14:58] If I had native ipv6 everywhere..maybe I'd use ipsec [14:58] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [14:58] Urchlay: Precisely. Do a little googling of ipsec and you'll soon discover that it's an incredibly complex, difficult to configure encryption standard, and that everyone who's made an implimentation has made different decisions on how to use ipsec. [14:58] Alan, ssl is indeed standards based. but the mere act of using a standard in not enough to make the implementation standards-based. the implementation matters [14:58] rogersman: theyre often tarballs in disguise [14:58] lagann_ (n=hex@c-24-62-142-190.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:58] like bash scripts with a tarball embedded in them [14:58] hi [14:58] mancha: I'm not following you. [14:58] how isn't openvpn a standard? [14:58] AES is a standard, are you arguing that anything written that uses AES is standards-based? [14:59] mancha: What exactly isn't standard about openvpn? [14:59] mancha: Yes. [14:59] ssl is a standard fro transport security, not for vpn [14:59] Well... it's AES standards-based (provided they didn't butcher AES). [14:59] and the standard isn't even called ssl, it is tls [14:59] what is a vpn for, if not transport security [14:59] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:59] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-13-184-74.dial-up.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:59] nothing [14:59] Alan_Hicks: oh I know it's incredibly complex/difficult, I had to set it up a couple times. Including one instance where the network guy at the other end kept blaming the failure on my "weird open source junk" (it turned out he had a misconfigured Cisco PIX in the way...) [15:00] Urchlay, gah, I hate this. "damn open source crap" [15:00] Urchlay, hear it daily [15:00] Urchlay: Yeah. Cisco's ipsec implimentation is almost completely imcompatable with everyone else's. For more details, search the openbsd-misc archives. [15:00] file identifies it as - POSIX shell script text executable - tar doesnt seem to like it...ill keep trying tho [15:00] That's why they ship their own clients and such [15:01] mancha: No, that's completely incorrect. [15:01] cisco was in a lot of trouble lately [15:01] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-13-184-74.dial-up.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:01] TLS and SSL are closely related, but not exactly the same thing. [15:01] yes. and CDP is incompatible with other things obviously, and in routing equipment EIGRP (cisco's proprietary routing protocol) is hardcoded in as the best choice of routing, so networks will always pick the EIGRP route over RIP or OSPF [15:01] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-13-184-74.dial-up.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:01] But I'm not going to bother trying to explain it all fully here. I really need a kick in the pants on that front as well. [15:01] _bruno (n=bruno@201-13-184-74.dial-up.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:01] ipsec is the closest we have to a vpn standard (it is a proposed standard). openvpn isn't even proposed [15:01] Nick change: _bruno_ -> _bruno [15:02] Maybe after slackbook v3 is released I'll get back to work on my ciphers_101.txt. [15:02] the really really hilarious thing about that: the whole point was, we had to set up this vpn to be able to submit requests to their weird old COBOL-flavored mainframe app over a TCP port... but it turns out, that TCP port was accessible to the whole world, no VPNing needed [15:02] Alan_Hicks: I found an interesting app..incase you ever need to do what I did [15:02] mancha: GAH! openvpn is an IMPLIMENTATION! [15:02] openvpn is just a brand name of a certain VPN implementation. of course "openvpn" is not literally a standard [15:02] a DD port that lets you pick multiple output files/devices [15:02] SSL is the standard for encryption. [15:02] you guys don't get it [15:02] so..if=file.img of=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdd... [15:02] so i'll recuse myself [15:02] straterra, whoa [15:02] Faster than 2 running DD's as there is one input stream [15:03] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:03] dcfldd [15:03] And there are no such things as "vpn standards" if you realize that a vpn is just a stream of two-way encrypted data. [15:03] straterra: couldn't you do the same thing by adding a couple of tees to the pipeline? [15:03] straterra, great name,easy to remeber [15:03] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:03] Urchlay: prolly..but it also shows progress :P [15:03] Urchlay, does tee like binary data? [15:03] something that normal DD doesn't [15:03] Alan, actually no, ipsec has gone through the ietf memo stage at least, it is proposed as a standard [15:03] tee doesn't know/care whether it's dealing with binary data.. [15:04] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.159.132) joined ##slackware. [15:04] mancha: you standardize protocols, formats, etc -- applications implement those. You don't standardize the application. [15:04] unless you're GNU [15:04] straterra: the progress bar is nice... I always liked "pipemeter" for that [15:05] ok folks. we have an issue of what defines a standard here. [15:05] the ssl/tls standard(s) tell you how to protect a single communication. it dosn't tell you how to handle a network [15:05] pull out the RFCs! [15:05] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:05] standards are like money... they exist because everyone agrees they do [15:06] how do ip addresses interact with net streams, nat for example, how is that dealt with, etc. [15:06] Err [15:06] My VPN doesn't touch any of that [15:06] My VPN handles layer 2 traffic..and thats it [15:06] the interaction between ips and network streams is a big part of ip-based networking [15:07] that doesnt compute [15:07] mancha: ? [15:07] mancha: it really depends whether youre doing tun or tap [15:07] Action: Zordrak does tap [15:07] Not really..even then, you're relying on the routing table of the OS, not the VPN software [15:07] right [15:08] why should a VPN care or know how its routed [15:08] It shouldn't [15:08] it cant [15:08] VPN is not a standard like other things you guys are talking about [15:08] everyone needs to read this. [15:08] http://www.vpnc.org/vpn-standards.html [15:08] glhf [15:08] eddief (n=eddie@pool-141-157-196-155.ny325.east.verizon.net) got netsplit. [15:08] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) got netsplit. [15:08] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) got netsplit. [15:08] tank-man (i=1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) got netsplit. [15:08] stig (n=stig@173.80-202-229.nextgentel.com) got netsplit. [15:08] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-wemvzrnibdaabmxq) got netsplit. [15:08] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) got netsplit. 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Pretty soon we will be phasing out support for signing in with your old YouTube password." [15:10] wheee [15:11] Zordrak: nice. sANS [15:11] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:11] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [15:11] hackeron (n=hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) returned to ##slackware. [15:11] Post-Netsplit Repeat :: while were talking about links to read.. as per my blog post on the matter - No-one should be allowed to even *discuss* SSL VPNs until theyve read: http://www.sans.org/rr/whitepapers/vpns/1459.php [15:12] vastina (i=jaird@64.215.163.99) got netsplit. [15:12] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-61-4-154.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) got netsplit. [15:12] Snewp (i=slacker@unaffiliated/snewp) got netsplit. [15:12] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) got netsplit. [15:12] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-0-49.bstnma.east.verizon.net) got netsplit. 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[15:13] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) returned to ##slackware. [15:14] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) got lost in the net-split. [15:14] skepsi (n=kvirc@94.127.129.34) left irc: Client Quit [15:14] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.1.212) left irc: Connection timed out [15:14] Nick change: Dominian_ -> Dominian [15:14] Possible future nick collision: Dominian [15:14] i know this is a bit off topic but was wondering if anyone knows of a nice media-centre style interface for google, similar to youtube XL... [15:14] O_ [15:14] * O_o [15:15] chopp (n=chopp@d204-191-88-5.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:15] anyone got any google wave invites/ [15:15] vbatts: koffice installed - seems to be functioning (or at least as well as I'd expect a beta to, without additional packaging issues) [15:15] sadsfae (n=sadsfae@funcamp.net) returned to ##slackware. [15:15] alienBOB: vbatts' koffice packages work - cross that off your todo list :) [15:15] troy: you got the wv2 and eigen2 also? [15:16] acidchild: if i had.. id flush them down the bog [15:16] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-13-184-74.dial-up.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:16] haha [15:16] i'm just curious to see [15:16] =] [15:17] hba (n=hba@189.130.29.192) left irc: "leaving" [15:17] myeggo (n=ElSofist@unaffiliated/gogomyeggo) joined ##slackware. [15:17] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-169-230.dynamic.hinet.net) returned to ##slackware. [15:17] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) returned to ##slackware. [15:17] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-13-184-74.dial-up.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [15:18] thrice` (i=thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) got lost in the net-split. [15:18] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) got lost in the net-split. [15:18] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) got lost in the net-split. [15:18] vastina (i=jaird@64.215.163.99) got lost in the net-split. [15:18] troy: good! [15:19] Woo.. old news but.. Woo! nVidia to exit the chipset business! [15:19] thank $DEITY for that# [15:19] nvidia has better chipsets than AMD [15:19] thats good [15:19] I've never had good experience with ATI/AMD chipsets [15:19] i cant tell you how much ive suffered at the hands of nforce [15:20] Well, I always liked nforce chipsets... [15:20] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:20] me too... they seem to work [15:20] me too [15:20] nforce has more or less just worked for me [15:20] im using nforce chipset [15:20] the sata controllers are the worst offenders.. followed closely by the ethernet [15:20] Scuzz: me too [15:20] WFM [15:20] unfortunately [15:20] wonder why they would abandon chipset market [15:20] yeah they should stop designing other bus chips [15:20] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:20] VIA is the worst [15:21] :P [15:21] uhg [15:21] Scuzz: it *looks* like theyre spitting their dummy out over intel licensing issues [15:21] Zordrak: that SANS paper is really good [15:21] vbatts: aye [15:21] esoteric: indeed [15:21] Zordrak: which? [15:21] sans paper on wha? [15:21] thanx Zordrak ill have to readup on this [15:21] esoteric: hence why i said it has to be read before you can discuss ssl vpn [15:22] it just gets everyone up to speed before spouting fud [15:22] acidchild, Necos: http://www.sans.org/reading_room/whitepapers/vpns/openvpn_and_the_ssl_vpn_revolution_1459?show=1459.php&cat=vpns [15:22] thanks. [15:22] ah, i had to scroll back pretty far to find it :P [15:23] can u not change the subject soon ? =) [15:23] ooohhh i see..nice [15:23] *tumbleweed* [15:23] this is a pretty short papre [15:23] *paper [15:23] Zordrak: it also helps (in an abstract sense) to understand the difference between protocols and implementations. [15:24] Necos: yeah but i like the structure [15:24] Action: Zordrak steps back in case round two starts abruptly.............. [15:24] no, i mean, pretty short as in, "i'm going to read it right now" [15:24] Necos: ++ [15:24] haha [15:24] Zordrak: lol -- true [15:24] an important concept is "standards" although you are right, protocols are important. [15:24] Zordrak: I digress [15:25] how do u define a protocol ? [15:25] lakan: lol thats witty [15:25] haha [15:26] Action: spook over kanyes [15:26] :> [15:26] was curious to see if all had the same def [15:26] _bruno (n=bruno@201-13-184-74.dial-up.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:26] lakan: yeah, there may be some kind of fine line between a standard and protocol. [15:26] lakan: a protocol is a definition [15:26] i thought you where making a joke >.> [15:26] a protocol can be a standard [15:26] i was =D [15:26] :> [15:27] fine line? [15:27] and now i get called to go to a classroom... guess this vpn article will have to wait til i'm back :) [15:27] w4lk (n=w4lk@cpe-071-068-224-209.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:27] lakan: while a protocol can be a standard, the inverse is not necessarily true [15:27] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [15:27] lakan: where you from ? [15:27] sweden [15:27] A protocol is a series of steps. You can think of it like a flow chart. When A happens, respond with B. Make requests for C this way. [15:27] _bruno (n=bruno@201-13-184-74.dial-up.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:28] can u use a protocol whitout using ports ? [15:28] esoteric: its inverse has its own definition [15:28] O_o [15:28] :> [15:28] :) [15:28] lakan: That.... is really an.... how do I describe this? [15:29] intel[R]VT-x why ? [15:29] lakan: ports and protocols are 100% non-related. [15:29] lakan: protocol in this sense !== communication protocol [15:29] A protocol may or may not use a transport layer port. [15:29] Protocols can have ports..if they are so inclined to have them [15:29] lakan: it's better you get a clock from ##freenode [15:30] haha i was joking again wtf [15:30] Action: acidchild cries a little [15:30] okay sleep nmow [15:30] nmow! [15:30] spook: youre still awake? [15:30] straterra: shut your gay for windows mouth [15:30] Zordrak: barely [15:31] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:749) left irc: "Leaving" [15:31] Go fall asleep in to a wood chipper or something [15:31] spook: lol [15:31] a scene from fargo comes to mind [15:31] i have a question for you guys [15:31] Scuzz: no I'm busy that day ok [15:32] acidchild: HIGH FIVE next week i am going to hook up with a chick called ashleigh. i have already started the same name jokes [15:32] Scuzz: Don't ask to ask, just ask. [15:32] Scuzz: 42 [15:32] Alan_Hicks: dont ask to ask, ask to ask to ask to ask :D [15:32] Action: acidchild *mumbles* at spook [15:32] if i add a device in /usr/src/linux/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb do i have to make the whole kernal again or is there a way to build the module without doing a make on the kernal ? [15:32] Scuzz: make modules [15:33] acidchild: just jealous you arent single and player like me [15:33] make modules_install # or simply copy the proper module into the proper places under /lib/modules. [15:33] spook: yah a little actully heh [15:33] You can also simply run make in that modules subdir, assuming there is a proper Makefile there. [15:33] Scuzz: what you trying to do install firmware for a hardware mpeg or dvb card? [15:33] spook: Does your left hand get mad if you use your right hand? [15:33] harware driver [15:33] acidchild: apparently i am a casanova. i found this out by showing my chat logs to a single friend. i was not aware. [15:33] hardware* [15:33] acidchild: female friend rather [15:33] spook: or cheesey [15:33] fine like friend [15:34] dvb card yes correct [15:34] line* [15:34] Scuzz: which one? slackwares got most of them going on in the huge kernel [15:34] sleeeeeep now bye [15:34] spook: oh night? [15:34] if you add it to /lib/modules/whatev make sure you depmod [15:34] yeah mines not included in the v4l tree yet [15:34] genpix skywalker2 [15:35] its easy to add though [15:35] Scuzz: so youre talking about patching.. [15:35] yes [15:35] or just building externally? [15:35] oh well then sure. [15:35] im gonna hand patch [15:35] really? [15:35] surely thats unnecessary [15:35] indeed [15:35] just build the module and install [15:35] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:35] k [15:36] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl5-168-203.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:36] you shouldnt be patching unless you plan on building it _into_ the kernel [15:36] i use to jsut download the v4l and build that way [15:36] but i noticed the directory so decided for an alternative [15:36] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [15:36] i have to patch the source to include my card [15:36] it uses the same instructions as skywalker 1 [15:37] soso its jsut a matter of adding it to the product ids [15:37] and so on [15:37] patch the current v4l source? [15:37] yes [15:37] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:37] well then yes.. patch/make modules/make modules_install [15:37] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:37] speaking of standards vs implementation, wget messes, upgrade to wget 1.12 (said this last night but the u.s. based crowd might have been asleep) [15:38] thank you sir [15:39] _bruno (n=bruno@201-13-184-74.dial-up.telesp.net.br) left irc: [15:40] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [15:40] firedix (n=firedix@host195.201-252-177.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [15:41] omgsobored [15:42] @Zordrak...start a fight on IMDB [15:42] lol [15:42] that would require registration on IMDB [15:43] or bugmenot [15:43] the only reason im here is to watch the fights [15:43] but i still cant be arsed :) [15:43] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:43] i came on irc one day and they were all fighting about rsa encryption [15:43] i never laghed so hard in my life [15:43] lol [15:43] i never left since [15:43] noobfarm [15:43] I suppose you could go old school and just head outside and beat someone up lol [15:43] rsa is safe because as bill gates said, it is hard to factor large prime numbers [15:43] adriyel (i=adriyel@anapnea.net) joined ##slackware. [15:44] Zordrak: go curb-check a cat -- always makes me feel better [15:44] Action: slackytude goes off [15:44] see ya, slackers [15:44] later [15:44] esoteric: yyeaahh.. youre gonna have to explain that one [15:44] @slacktude ... chus [15:45] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [15:45] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A72AD9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "no time for nuts" [15:45] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:45] Zordrak: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Curb%20Check [15:45] @esoteric bump [15:47] esoteric: doesnt entirely paint the picture [15:47] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.47.87) left irc: "Leaving" [15:47] guess you have to be merican [15:48] it may be entirely possible that you're over-analizing it [15:49] jesus...so its like that scene in american history x? [15:49] good god, vt.edu needs some more bandwidth :P [15:49] Nick change: t4cch1n0 -> g4tt0 [15:49] rogersman: yes, that is a curb-check [15:50] anyone here familiar with samba? [15:50] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:50] i dont know whats more disturbing, the fact that actually happens, or it happens so often, your country made a name up for it.....yikes [15:50] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [15:50] Action: Zordrak just made what may be his first ever youtube comment [15:50] adriyel: Don't ask to ask, ask. [15:50] curb check? [15:50] rogersman: i don't know how much involvment the country had in it [15:50] Alan_Hicks: that needs to be coded into slackboy [15:51] regexp on "does anyone" and similar [15:51] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [15:51] FWIW, I've never heard of 'curb check' to mean anything other than nearly hitting the ditch with your car. [15:51] i think they mean curb-job [15:52] i never heard of curb-check [15:52] isnt it kerb anyway? [15:52] Alan_Hicks: getpeername failed. Error was [15:52] Alan_Hicks: that's what I always thought it meant... until I learned of a second "urban" definition [15:52] Transport endpoint is not connected [15:52] esoteric: search "curb check bitch" on youtube [15:52] I've never heard of curb-job either. [15:52] samba daemon is unresponsive, had to kill -9 it. [15:52] Zordrak: i'm afraid [15:52] adriyel: More information needed. [15:52] curb job is when you stick someones mouth over a curb and then stomp on their head [15:52] Alan_Hicks: well at this point, the samba daemon is just plain taking forever to start. [15:52] just for the posterity of what i think is my first ever youtube comment [15:52] the error has stopped occurring. [15:52] Zordrak: SFW? [15:53] yeah.. just turn the sound down a bit [15:53] bit loud [15:53] adriyel: Need more info. [15:53] are you using dual-daemon mode for samba? [15:53] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.94.160) left irc: Connection timed out [15:53] What were you trying to do when this error occured for example? [15:53] Zordrik: k .. gotta start my proxy up to my home :) [15:53] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-28-36.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [15:53] esoteric: ref: kardroz [15:53] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.79.77) joined ##slackware. [15:54] heh [15:54] Alan_Hicks: like? I did init.d/smbd start [15:54] O_O [15:54] adriyel: what OS are you running? [15:54] adriyel: GTFO! [15:54] should do summit like /etc/rc.d/rc.samb... [15:54] Zordrak: Linux sulu 2.6.18-92.1.13.el5 #1 SMP Wed Sep 24 19:33:52 EDT 2008 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux [15:54] init.d sounds like redcrap or summit [15:54] GET THE HELL OUT NOW [15:54] lmao! [15:55] lol [15:55] Action: deco gets his beating stick out [15:55] Firefox, network.proxy.socks_remote_dns=true owns! [15:55] Zordrak: fuck off troll, I'm here because I don't like Redhat. [15:55] no.. stop laughing and get walking [15:55] adriyel: You obviously are *not* using Slackware. Go ask somebody else. We have no idea how other distros may have fucked shit up. [15:55] Alan_Hicks: that's a nice excuse, but I'll leave anyway. [15:55] I came here because normally the community here is excellent. Obviously something has changed that. [15:55] adriyel: It's the plain and simple truth. You'll get a better answer somewheres else. [15:55] dumb-ass questions? [15:56] just.. just.. no.p [15:56] No, the community is excellent still, the problem just isn't ours. [15:56] Alan_Hicks: you and your ilk are assholes. Making excuses doesn't change that. [15:56] i have no words.. [15:56] adriyel: make me some lunch and GTFO [15:56] Action: Zordrak takes a VDU break [15:56] adriyel (i=adriyel@anapnea.net) left ##slackware. [15:56] Paz (n=Paz@adsl-70-233-135-117.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:56] lol [15:56] Oh yes, we are very much assholes, but we're assholes that use Slackware. [15:57] adriyel, the channel anger level is high, you chose the wrong time to ask about a different distrib [15:57] Alan_Hicks: ++ [15:57] haha [15:57] left [15:57] wonder what hes making you to eat [15:57] erik (i=erik@slackbuilds.org) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:57] i nice sammich [15:57] i hope [15:57] That puts us on a higher plane than your normal asshole. [15:57] Anyone gonna noobfarm me for that conversation with him? :-) [15:57] Zordrak: is it that sucky band? [15:57] yeah [15:57] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [15:57] Alan_Hicks: can i have the honor ? [15:57] comment as kardroz [15:58] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) joined ##slackware. [15:58] more cerebral than the previous comment "You guys suck dick" [15:58] deco: certainly. [15:58] Zordrak: lol [15:58] Alan_Hicks: ok ^^ [15:59] Zordrak: a bit more constructive, too [15:59] i thought so [15:59] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-28-36.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [15:59] Lant (n=Decoy@cpe-071-068-102-115.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:01] Zordrak: take a break ! [16:02] we need a new word for troll.. trolls keep using it :) [16:02] Zordrak: May I make suggestions? [16:03] wow! *all-tray with firefox is really cool! [16:03] so long as theyre not moderator-like :) [16:03] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:03] glad to see were not letting friday affect our productivity :-) [16:04] rogersman: is it still friday there? [16:04] 3 more hours [16:04] Alan_Hicks: done \o/ [16:04] yeah, 9pm ! [16:04] sweet, building gutenprint :P [16:04] lol,its almost sat 1:30 Am here :D [16:04] Zordrak: My first suggestion for the replacement of the word troll.... [16:05] shiteater [16:05] what about "asshat"? [16:05] i like douchebag myself [16:05] "coprophage" [16:05] Hmmm... shit eater is a little weak... [16:05] especially cos it immediately categorises straterror [16:05] What about dick-carcus? [16:05] which is more like a medical term [16:05] you all check noobfarm tomorrow [16:05] donkey-raping shit-eater? [16:05] you're trolling now. [16:06] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [16:06] @init[0], i never got tham damn app to work well, new version? [16:06] winter: shuptroll :) [16:06] wow >.> [16:06] Zordrak++ [16:07] Zordrak: douchebag doesn't work. That implies they at least get close to pussy once in awhile. [16:07] fraktil (n=fraktil@pool-96-248-228-113.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:07] yeah.. yeah.. i see the problemw [16:07] So now thats over [16:07] asshat would be good but it doesnt have the necessary punch [16:07] I've got a question about Win Vista? [16:08] j/k lol [16:08] lol [16:08] i just keep going back to what ive used to describe straterror [16:08] spunkjunkie? [16:08] spunkjunkie! I like! [16:08] immense cockring was the last one i remember [16:08] not bad.. if a liitle long [16:09] ooo Nut-gobbler? [16:09] goatstroker too long? [16:09] hahhaha [16:09] lol [16:09] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:10] i have it [16:10] i think i have it.. not offensive such that you couldnt use it in a polite channel [16:10] but descriptive [16:10] This is quickly reminding me of +Chiron+ in the a.o.l.s. days... [16:11] shit i lost it.. gimme a second [16:11] rogersman: yes, [16:11] oh yeah that was it... Tumor [16:11] haha I remember those, Alan_Hicks [16:11] Tumor sounds too benign. [16:11] rogersman: it seems to work here, happy doky :D [16:11] Action: Zordrak groans [16:11] Leech [16:12] Action: sajes hands the phail trophy to Alan_Hicks. [16:12] cool, shame that bloddy kstart doenst work anymore [16:12] its been at least an hour since I poked Alan_Hicks about v3 [16:12] Action: init[0] what about *stroll* ? a slacker S ? [16:12] Zordrak: Thanks for the reminder. [16:12] Alan_Hicks: working on v3 ? [16:12] heh [16:12] Alan_Hicks: you could ban him.. [16:12] It wouldn't hurt my feelings [16:12] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:13] straterra: I wasn't aware that you had feelings. [16:13] lol [16:13] I don't [16:13] i like Discharge.. can produce some tosting mental images [16:13] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:13] Thats not the point though [16:14] err [16:14] * testing [16:14] Just take spook and jeev with em [16:14] A lot of regs will be very happy [16:14] Discharge is a good one [16:14] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:14] right...off to gym...BIAB... [16:14] but it has to be pronounced DIScharge [16:14] not disCharge [16:15] discharge is lacking punch unless you combine it with something, but it's an excellent word for a flame. [16:15] definitely [16:15] Example: Do you really believe that anal discharge you're spewing in this channel? [16:15] cervical discharge... [16:16] runny discharge [16:16] "Didn't I see you on TV the other day? Yeah, I was watching Dirty Jobs and Mike Rowe was discharging the puss from a deer zit." [16:16] oderous [16:16] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl5-168-203.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [16:16] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) joined ##slackware. [16:16] err odorous [16:16] odourous :) [16:17] both work :) [16:17] theres always the simple effective ones like Disease [16:18] Action: Zordrak googles painful diseases [16:18] Zordrak: check humanity [16:19] "I'd sooner kiss the puss discharged from a herpes sore than listen to your drivel for another minute." [16:19] ouch hahaha [16:19] if south park is authoritative.. aids can now be incorporated into humour [16:19] Let's see if I can get anyone to spill Coke on their keyboard.... [16:19] heh [16:19] AIDS just isn't funny. [16:19] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [16:19] Zordrak: Cancer as well. [16:20] Cancer has long been able to be joked about. [16:20] Alan_Hicks: have you seen the episode in question? [16:20] civ [16:20] Action: sajes cites cartman's "all-over cancer". [16:20] Could you imagine Alan_Hicks and rworkman re-enacting Deliverance? [16:20] Zordrak: No, I don't watch South Park. [16:20] Alan_Hicks: kk [16:20] Protein Stain [16:20] Dominian: No you can't, 'cause unlike Burt Reynolds, we'd have guns. [16:20] Bladder Cancer is apparantly pretty painful [16:21] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [16:21] Alan_Hicks: re-enacing constitutes you don't have guns :( [16:21] life is difficult, watch the movie the science of sleep [16:21] "Your contributions to this channel hardly ammount to more than the yellow stain on the sock I left under my bed when I was twelve." [16:21] hmmmmmm testicular tattoo? [16:22] Zordrak: No, that turns stra^H^H^Home people on. [16:22] LOL [16:22] >.> [16:22] sucks to be you! [16:23] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [16:23] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:23] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:24] moyia (n=moyia@ppp-94-66-147-240.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:25] troy (n=quassel@jefferai.org) left ##slackware ("http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere."). [16:25] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [16:25] i think im all out of ideas [16:25] hello [16:25] spectre (n=kyle@pool-173-54-180-207.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving." [16:25] hi.i have install slackware 13 on an 8giga usb stick and i would like to ask if im going installing lilo normaly on usb stick or i need to pass any parametre to work properly [16:25] I haven't even begun to be insulting. [16:26] alexzyp (n=ping@58.254.92.222) joined ##slackware. [16:26] moyia: I believe you should be able to install onto it normally, but I'm not positive. [16:26] Alan_Hicks: im trying to pick an appropriate single word troll replacement... i could still continue to be insulting [16:26] hi, I use KDM. When logged into KDE as normal user, if i try to suspend to ram from KDE4 logoff menu, nothing happens. pm-suspend as root works. Any ideas? [16:26] ref: Puddle of Regurgitated Afterbirth [16:27] Nigromante: are you using slackware ? [16:27] sure [16:27] k, sorry to ask you never know these days... [16:27] KDE 4 [16:28] could it be permissions problems? or missing program? [16:28] Alan_Hicks, ok thanks we will see. [16:28] deco: does his user need to be a member of the power group? [16:28] I m not sure how KDE 4 handles suspend [16:28] esoteric: dunno i never tried suspeding before.... [16:28] suspending* [16:28] mad_ (n=mad@brsg-d9bef6b1.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [16:28] mmm [16:29] ...and I'm not a KDE guy [16:29] i've been afraid.... [16:29] Action: init[0] http://ssh.shellium.org/~buffer/images/Screenshot.png [my xfce] ;) [16:29] Hi, me again, slackpkg update still gives me this error message http://pastebin.com/m3c0069f3 [16:29] nice conky [16:30] Nigromante: I think you might want to add your user to the power group [16:30] init[0]: pffft, http://slackwaregallery.org/displayimage.php?album=6&pos=0 [16:30] I see [16:30] i did a little bit of work on conky. that was a while ago. [16:30] Nick change: thrice`_ -> thrice` [16:30] wow i like init[0]'s way way better than deco's [16:30] boojit: ..... [16:31] deco, you really do like those guys, eh? [16:31] mad_: ls -la / | grep temp [16:31] deco: .... [16:31] err [16:31] mad_: ls -la / | grep tmp [16:31] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:31] esoteric: hellz yeah [16:32] deco: ty :) [16:32] you mean for giving you his username ? [16:32] alexzyp (n=ping@58.254.92.222) left irc: "Leaving" [16:32] lol [16:32] j/k [16:32] init[0]: np [16:33] Zordrak: drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 4096 2009-10-10 00:24 tmp/ [16:33] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) joined ##slackware. [16:33] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@174-23-226-49.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:33] Zordrak: WTF man?! ls -ld /tmp [16:34] UUOG [16:34] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@174-23-226-49.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [16:35] hmmm, has anyone built the new gutenprint? it's stopping for me at the olympus driver objects [16:35] ls -ld shows nothing [16:35] esoteric: new one :) http://omploader.org/vMmlnNQ [16:35] Alan_Hicks: ive been at work for nearly 13 hours and im exhausted.. you can let that one slip :) [16:36] w4lk (n=w4lk@cpe-071-068-224-209.sc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:36] Zordrak: excuses do not fly here! [16:36] Dominian: hurry accept my new submission :P [16:36] not even Dominian is allowed. [16:36] Dominian: neither do penguins.. but theyre still birds... [16:36] ok i dont know what that means either.. but it sounded cool :) [16:37] deco, how do you get you desktop to display that way ? [16:37] mad_: ls -ld /tmp # shows nothing?! [16:37] your home folder [16:37] Scuzz: oh it's in the plasmoids options [16:38] Alan_Hicks: no [16:38] ahh thanx [16:38] O_O [16:38] mad_: Well there's your problem! [16:38] mad_: You don't have a /tmp directory. [16:38] how is that possible? [16:38] 21:33:22 < mad_> Zordrak: drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 4096 2009-10-10 00:24 tmp/ [16:39] Scuzz: under show a place option select home folder , np [16:39] Alan_Hicks: Actually, i have, i can cd into it [16:39] oh [16:39] i type in desktop:/ [16:39] and use that option [16:39] mad_: cd / ls -FC [16:39] Scuzz: oh..hehe, use home [16:39] i like how folders open on hover that way [16:39] yeah [16:39] try again.. PRECISELY like this: [16:39] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:39] mad_: Sorry. # cd /; ls -FC [16:39] ls -ld /tmp [16:39] mad_: You should be able to paste that here without flooding. [16:40] pasting is a bit tricky since slackware is running in a virualbo [16:40] x [16:41] eddief (n=eddie@pool-141-157-196-155.ny325.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:41] estranho (n=diogo@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Client Quit [16:41] but i have a tmp dir [16:41] Ah. Well, do you see /tmp/ anywhere in the return from that ls? [16:41] yes, sure [16:41] Alan_Hicks: there was output from ls -la / | grep tmp [16:41] But this shows nothing? $ ls -ld /tmp [16:42] exactly [16:42] Dude that's fucked up. [16:42] thoroughly [16:42] You're not using busybox ls or something weird like that are ya? [16:42] That doesn't make sense. [16:42] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.1.212) joined ##slackware. [16:43] lol or maybe he tried to upgradepkg glibc-solibs [16:43] ls -ld /tmp show the same as ls -la / < grep tmp [16:43] cal (n=cal@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [16:43] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) left irc: "Leaving." [16:43] Necos, that's true -- i've seen that by messing up glibc [16:43] wtf?! [16:43] | grep tmp [16:43] alexzyp (n=ping@58.254.92.222) joined ##slackware. [16:43] Nick change: cal -> Guest73588 [16:43] mad_: Was it doing this all along and you just had a brain fart, or is this the first time you actually tried it? [16:43] mad_: you said like THREE times ls -ld /tmp shows nothing [16:43] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [16:44] Hi men [16:44] Can someone tell me how to create an application launcher in KDE4.2? [16:44] 21:37:31 < Alan_Hicks> mad_: ls -ld /tmp # shows nothing?! [16:44] 21:38:06 < mad_> Alan_Hicks: no [16:44] Nigromante: we are all women here.... [16:44] reagarding suspend from KDE logoff menu, adding user to power group solved the problem [16:44] at first you told me to ls -la / | grep tmp [16:44] but i had to restart [16:44] (and women) [16:44] Nigromante, good. glad to hear it [16:45] I want to create a launcher to do something like; mplayer -fs -vo x11 -loop 0 -zoom -framedrop dvd:// or vlc --vout x11 dvd:// [16:45] thank you [16:45] Guest73588: Don't use KDE myself, but it's something like right-clicking on the "K" button and selecting edit or explore or some weird shit like that. Then you can drag'n'drop. [16:45] Make an icon on the desktop. [16:45] Guest73588, make an alias? [16:45] i had to add some hooks to /etc/pm/ dirs to stop - restart network, and now nothing crashes [16:46] mad_: Are you running slackpkg as root? [16:46] well however, problem is not that i have no tmp dir [16:46] deco you not using 4.3.2 ? [16:46] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [16:46] Alan_Hicks: fresh install, didn't add a user yet [16:46] Necos: make an alias? I don't think so... making an alias would be like ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.1.5 ? or..? [16:46] Scuzz: no not yet, i'm using the default 4.2.4 [16:46] mad_: rm -r /tmp/slackpkg* [16:47] mad_: ^^^^ then try again [16:47] and check that /etc/slackpkg/slackpkg.conf exists and looks reasonably sane [16:47] vbatts packages are nice [16:47] no issue at all [16:47] alexzyp (n=ping@58.254.92.222) left irc: "leaving" [16:47] Scuzz: yeah , i'm gonna try them soon [16:47] g bye I will try to suspend to disk.... [16:47] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:48] neonflux: remember you made me a 32bit package of xbmc ? [16:48] yes [16:48] neonflux: now with the mesa update i got it to work , thanks again :) [16:49] deco: no problem [16:49] slackpkg.conf exists [16:49] neonflux: larry? [16:49] deco: hope you enjoy it [16:49] Zordrak: yes [16:49] neonflux: sup [16:49] neonflux: yeah it's awesoem having fun with it ^^ [16:49] awesome* [16:49] Zordrak: so you are the new xbmc maintainer? :) [16:49] deco: good to hear [16:49] if we can wark out the patch sitchation [16:50] Zordrak: as far as I'm concerned there is no noticeable difference whether they are used or not [16:50] its an awesome script.. it cant sit in the shadow.. it needs to be on SBo [16:50] Dito (i=57020fd0@gateway/web/freenode/x-hdfkvqrswfsakqhb) joined ##slackware. [16:50] neonflux: where did you originally pick them up? [16:50] hi [16:51] Zordrak: From the Arch linux PKGBUILD [16:51] orite yeah.. you said [16:51] were they all included in that build? [16:51] Zordrak: they still have them on their xbmc PKGBUILD [16:51] Zordrak: yup [16:51] if so id certainly be tempted to put them in properly then [16:52] i guess theyre there to fix occasionally-appearing issues [16:52] and if having them doesnt hurt any.. no-brainer really [16:52] most likely [16:52] kk [16:52] will update the ML with this [16:52] if you're interested in seeing their build the here is the main page [16:52] http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/xbmc/ [16:52] and a list of all the files [16:52] http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/xbmc/repos/community-i686/?root=community [16:53] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:53] im gonna paste this history out for the morning.. im about to go home and can barely keep my eye open [16:53] eyes [16:53] neonflux: thx [16:53] I took bits and pieces from gentoo and Arch in particular but then I looked at how the ubuntu guys packaged it and added a couple of other items [16:54] *nod* [16:54] Zordrak: no problem [16:54] was just surprised you didnt want to put it up yourself [16:54] all the hard work is done [16:54] then mainly through lots of trial and error got it build :) [16:54] aye [16:55] I did want to present it to the Slack community but I don't want to own it...that is my main concern [16:55] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [16:55] too many possible issues would/can arise [16:56] ownership is just a matter of having "it is what it is.. if you dont like it.. go suck something sharp" in your clipboard :) [16:57] its also responding to issues as well...which I'm not willing to take on [16:57] although I do have quite a few packages at SBo and have only gotten a handful a issues with them [16:57] aye.. well if anyone comes to me with them i might have a gcrack.. but otherwise itll be.. "you fix it and submit the fix, or take ownership" [16:58] sure [16:58] aye.. i have about 5-10 -- never been contacted once [16:58] well i got a question about one.. but it was a 3 second e-mail response [16:58] 80+ or something like that [16:58] shit.. dude you should own it for the props [16:58] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FD8A5.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [16:58] ViN86 (n=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FIVE-O-THREE.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [16:58] lakan (n=lakan@davsam.csbnet.se) left irc: "Leaving" [16:58] blackula (i=1000@97.81.73.186) joined ##slackware. [16:59] i mean its your call.. but it just seems wrong for me to take the glory [16:59] but most of them are just simple python scripts or libraries...so no biggie [16:59] Zordrak: own the GLORY!!! :) [16:59] heh [16:59] wubbster (n=wubbster@doc-24-206-157-137.kw.tx.cebridge.net) joined ##slackware. [16:59] right.. im off.. night peeps. be back bright and early in 11 hours [16:59] don't worry we'll all secretly know it wasn't you [16:59] never mind [16:59] s0d0 (n=bggr@host86-175-233-165.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:00] later [17:00] Action: ViN86 impersonates Dr. Nick [17:00] I figured it out... Right click the start menu and select Menu Editor. [17:00] Hi everybody! [17:01] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:02] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:02] confrey (n=dario@151.59.24.67) joined ##slackware. [17:02] hi everybody [17:04] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:05] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:05] hiya ViN86 [17:06] Guest73588 (n=cal@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:07] ping_alexzyp (n=ping@58.254.92.222) joined ##slackware. [17:07] Necos: ello :) [17:08] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [17:09] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "reboot" [17:09] busy busy over here... updating cups 1.2.12 with some new drivers [17:10] mad_ (n=mad@brsg-d9bef6b1.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:11] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:12] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [17:12] ping_alexzyp (n=ping@58.254.92.222) left irc: "Leaving" [17:12] wubbster (n=wubbster@doc-24-206-157-137.kw.tx.cebridge.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:13] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:14] lib (i=hex@c-24-62-142-190.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:15] stig_ (n=stig@173.80-202-229.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [17:16] hello, i am trying to try slackware in virtualbox but i get errors all the time [17:16] what errors? [17:16] need i donwnload an alternate iso? [17:16] no [17:16] slackware in a vm works fine [17:17] moyia (n=moyia@ppp-94-66-147-240.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:17] i've have lots of different vms with slackware [17:17] you need to explain what errors you are getting [17:17] Kiboney_Dude (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:18] what software are you using [17:18] yes, what errors [17:18] im running slack64 in a VM atm lol [17:19] that's like walking up to a mechanic and saying "my car doesn't work" [17:19] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [17:19] and your car isn't even around to inspect [17:19] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.63.22) joined ##slackware. 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[17:20] lol [17:20] Dito (i=57020fd0@gateway/web/freenode/x-hdfkvqrswfsakqhb) left irc: [17:21] hehe [17:21] sorry i was trying to get the error again, and im still fdisk-ing [17:21] god since my new install i haven't gotten around to install gnome agian [17:21] *again [17:21] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-68-228.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:22] razel (n=rpg@CPE000fb5dad35f-CM00152fba8904.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "leaving" [17:22] whats the best site to use. i was using gnomeslackbuild [17:22] you don't "NEED" gnome [17:22] lowkyalu1 (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [17:22] i know but i do prefer it more [17:22] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:23] i speaka the eglich whel goad [17:24] whats a good truecrypt type program that comes with slackware [17:24] i want to upload a few hundred gigs to my site [17:25] but want it all encrypted [17:26] sorry let me specify. i want to encrypt it, then upload it [17:27] why cant you use truecrypt? [17:27] spider1010: gpg [17:27] stig (n=stig@173.80-202-229.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:27] i can i just would like to use a program that comes with slackware [17:28] can't just create a few truecrypt containers and do it that way? [17:28] of course, you haven't told us what that encryption is supposed to accomplish [17:28] oh, well i got truecrypt workin in slackware easily... sorry im not helping lol [17:28] spider1010: alienBOB has a slackbuild for truecrypt: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/truecrypt/ [17:28] ViN86: out of curiosity, what's so funny about not helping? [17:28] i saw that slackbuild had it [17:29] spider1010: if you can tell us what you want this encryption for, we could give you better advice [17:29] not helping it what make this crap funny [17:29] anake: i was laughing cause i kept going on about using truecrypt, when he specifically did not want to [17:30] like a babbling idiot... [17:30] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [17:30] lol [17:30] whiten0ise (n=someone@24.179.66.46) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:30] spider1010: why not encrypt them using gpg? [17:31] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:31] i guess i'll give gpg a try [17:31] gpg [17:31] and why can't you tell us what it's supposed to accomplish? [17:31] lagann_ (n=hex@c-24-62-142-190.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [17:31] ananke: why do you think he wants it encrypted -_- [17:31] i just saw that they have windows binaries, so if i am at a friends home and have to get something off the site i can. [17:31] thanks [17:32] ze secrets must be saef! [17:32] ViN86: i never said or indicated that he wants it encrypted. i've been asking why he wants it encrypted [17:32] its to backup all my personal and media data [17:32] ananke: i was just kidding [17:32] lets just say my cable company has a three strikes policy and i've got 2 [17:33] copyright bullshit [17:33] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.161.195) left irc: "+-||\-" [17:34] spider1010: im guessing other people got their hands on your media before? or were you using p2p? [17:34] i read that aes 256 was easier or just as easy to crack as aes 128 [17:34] sounds like all you need is to simply compress/tarball your data before sending it. it's unlikely they'd go as far as analyzing that traffic [17:34] phrag (n=phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:34] i was stupid and used p2p [17:34] if you think your isp would be actually _cracking_ traffic, you'd have something else to worry. they don't. [17:34] well better safe then sorry [17:35] as another easier alternative, you could just rar it and add a password [17:35] i know they don't but i also know that i like my internet connection and would like to have one [17:36] ive done that before putting stuff online [17:36] ViN86: yep [17:36] i will rar something when i die, until then i'll use .tar.bz2 or gz [17:37] can you password tar.bz2/gz archives? [17:37] spider1010: if you're worried about aes, use twofish [17:38] truecrypt will let you use combinations as well [17:38] aes is the most secure encryption currently out there at least thats what the government uses [17:38] if using truecrypt you could always salt it [17:38] i like the idea of using combo encryption just to have that ability [17:38] spider1010: the most secure? really? [17:39] well one of the [17:39] better [17:39] ??? [17:40] great my roommate just walked in and im sitting here with papertowels on my desk :/ [17:40] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-jccsyugwxbwtkxpl) left ##slackware. [17:40] lmao [17:40] stop jerking it to slackware talk [17:40] guilty. as. charged. [17:40] cihper talk always makes me hot [17:41] masturbating to geeks talking about encryption. [17:41] i know its a great distro but damn [17:41] s/cihper/cipher [17:41] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) joined ##slackware. [17:41] actually i was cleaning the olive oil off my desk after a sloppy pasta eating session [17:41] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) left ##slackware. [17:41] you sick puppy. [17:41] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) joined ##slackware. [17:41] ViN86: olive oil, eh? [17:41] damn. third to make the joke... [17:41] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [17:41] damn that sounded worse [17:41] Action: esoteric nods [17:41] yep [17:41] Action: ViN86 opens mouth, inserts foot [17:41] lol [17:41] "honest! it's for the pasta!" [17:42] this is so wierd... [17:42] is that foot coated in olive oil? [17:42] it is when i put it on it lol [17:42] with some oregano, mmmmm [17:42] building gutenprint 5.0.0 is no problem... however, building 5.0.1 hangs on the epson printer object file >.> [17:42] mmmm. oregano... butter [17:42] crap i thought you wrote "food" rofl [17:42] not foot [17:43] now reading comprehension is dropping [17:43] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "Leaving" [17:52] god this is pissing me off >.> [17:53] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "rah" [17:55] wtf ---> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gR8v-12HKePFAQQ1CZUVPbZXQ5qQD9B7QME80 [17:55] br00tal (n=Jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:55] gross [17:55] eh? [17:56] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-432785.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:56] Necos: link ^ [17:56] why do ppl like cartoon porn? i mean honestly [17:56] sick [17:57] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:57] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "pqp" [17:58] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-61-4-154.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:59] >.> [17:59] is it SFW? [17:59] Necos: yeah [18:01] that's a damn shame [18:02] yup , i guess homer needs more money for beer [18:02] / [18:02] that is sick [18:02] i think it's amusing to say the least [18:02] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: "hard reboot" [18:02] at least homer wont get a nobel [18:03] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [18:03] winter: lol [18:03] oh, you're bitching about obama winning the peace price? [18:03] lol [18:03] yes, i'm fucking with you about it [18:04] first off, i don't agree that he should have won it, but fuck... maybe he should after we survived bush for 8 yrs [18:04] hmmmm [18:04] nah [18:04] heh [18:04] blackula (i=1000@97.81.73.186) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:04] 2 wars in progress, full peace is on. :) [18:05] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:05] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [18:06] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:06] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [18:07] eng-ms_ (n=eng-ms@196.202.27.173) joined ##slackware. [18:08] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.1.212) left irc: Connection timed out [18:09] reaperIII (n=reaperII@41.122.130.100) joined ##slackware. [18:09] hi room [18:10] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.143.150) left irc: [18:10] i found winter ! ----> http://omploader.org/vMmloMQ [18:10] lol [18:10] it's kittyboy [18:10] in slack 11 there used to be a pdftk package tha is no longer with slack 13 [18:10] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:10] esoteric: yes lol [18:11] esoteric: thought him how to use slack [18:11] what app can be used to rotate a pdf 90 degrees [18:11] reaperIII: just rotate your head [18:11] hi esoteric [18:11] lol [18:11] :P [18:11] hey [18:11] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: "hard reboot" [18:11] i rotated the laptop like a book and that helped a little [18:11] reaperIII: try okular [18:11] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [18:12] you could use xrandr to rotate your entire X display 90 degrees :) [18:12] im looking for a commandlineequivalent [18:12] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.1.212) joined ##slackware. [18:12] Urchlay: and listen to pink floyd at the same time [18:12] ok, we're going full faci now [18:13] winter, just to finish my thought... obama hasn't STARTED any wars yet :) [18:13] winter: you're a cute cat btw [18:13] reaperIII: there's a pdf plugin for the Gimp... maybe there's a solution in there somewhere [18:14] ok will look thanx [18:14] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:14] deco: at least i'm not a &^%$# C%$#$% [18:14] \o/ [18:14] winter: \o/ [18:14] fuckoffs [18:14] lol [18:15] Action: deco hugs winter [18:16] Action: winter spits on deco [18:16] eng-ms (n=eng-ms@196.202.27.173) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [18:16] why your sorry ass hasn't been skidded from here is beyond me. [18:17] winter: thanks i needed to clean my glasses [18:17] lowkyalu1 (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:18] alienBOB: is winter's behavior acceptable for this channel? 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[18:25] mm esoteric i tried convert but that kills the resolution in the rotation process [18:26] reaperIII, yeah I'd suspect it would as it would probably have to resize it to make it still fit on the page [18:26] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:28] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [18:31] ananke: when I kick winter, he will not be the only one [18:31] esoteric, tell me the secrets of the universe [18:31] Ojg (n=org@c-83-233-59-82.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [18:32] dchmelik, 42 [18:32] what's that alienBOB? [18:33] myeggo (n=ElSofist@unaffiliated/gogomyeggo) left irc: "Saliendo" [18:33] alienBOB: not sure what that means [18:33] dchmelik, tell me the secrets of dchmelik [18:34] agris (n=agris@213.226.141.54) left irc: "Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de" [18:36] Action: thrice` wonders how long alienBOB's shitlist is :D [18:36] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:36] Pretty long thrice` [18:37] alienBOB: so what's the answer to my question, if you don't mind? [18:37] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [18:38] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:38] ananke: my answer to your question was implied in my first line [18:39] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:39] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:39] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:40] alienBOB: that's the thing, i have no clue what that answer really means. [18:40] or implies. it can imply a lot of things [18:40] Its going to rain poneys [18:40] and kittys [18:40] Action: esoteric hates both [18:41] straterra: zomg ponies! [18:41] you would... [18:41] it's supposed to start raining tonight. today high was 83F, and starting tommorow highs will be 62F or less [18:41] autumn is starting... [18:41] its been raining all day here [18:42] what state ? [18:42] Indiana [18:42] i guess i don't hate ponies themselves, but the context in which they're usually delivered. [18:42] oh [18:42] straterra: california <---- needs rain [18:42] Psh [18:42] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.175.51.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:42] They need a nuke [18:42] reaperIII (n=reaperII@41.122.130.100) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:43] ...i'll settle for an earthquake [18:43] Major plague [18:43] actually, we'd all be paying for an earthquake... nuke will work better [18:43] Ignacio_ (n=Ignacio@190.51.8.137) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:48] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:49] california just doesn't need anymore fires >.> [18:49] needs love.... [18:51] didn't work in the 60's... probably won't work now either [18:51] ;) [18:51] hmmm a teacher came in and said something about john kerry, so i looked it up on wikipedia... randomly, i notice that it says: "Kerry served as an honorary pallbearer for the late former Senator Ted Kennedy." what the hell is an honorary pallbearer? back injury prevent him from carrying the casket? [18:51] esoteric: it worked ;-) we got the best music [18:51] from that [18:51] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [18:52] you can only have so many people around a casket, so if there were other people that would've also been good candidates to bear it they are made honorary [18:52] deco: yes. some good music. [18:52] kerry should have just jumped on top >.> [18:53] lol [18:53] esoteric, that does make sense tho... thanks for the clarification :) [18:53] Necos, np. the only reason I know is because I've been one a couple times. [18:53] i'd never heard of an honorary pallbearer before that tho lol [18:54] it does sound kind of funny though... they should have honorary best men, too [18:54] lol yeah [18:54] ... or honorary wife [18:54] win! [18:54] lol [18:55] then again, that's like saying "sorry bitch, you came in second" [18:55] I see it more like saying, "not enough room in the bed" [18:55] it's more saying there isn't enough room around your metaphorically casket for anothor moaner... [18:56] lol [18:56] get a california king... that's what we made 'em for! [18:56] lol [18:56] hey! music and the california king.... two things [18:56] there's always enough room in bed. even if there isn't. bed don't get less comfortable with more women in them. they become more of a challenge. [18:56] esoteric: yup damn right [18:56] holy shit, one of the articles linked in kerry's wikipedia article is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Florida_Taser_incident [18:57] deco: we'll hold back the nuke if we can find one more thing. [18:57] and women are soft and lovely, besides. [18:57] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: [18:58] esoteric: silicon valley ? [18:58] deco: nice try [18:58] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wozniak [18:58] good enough for ya? [18:58] Necos: :) [18:59] ^.^ [18:59] I was looking for National Parks... but we'll consider the Woz [18:59] shit, consider...? bow in honor :) [19:00] i gotta wait for the guy with the other key still [19:00] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [19:01] and if you want another reason (although, not nearly as influential): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Alba [19:03] heh [19:03] nicely played [19:03] Action: deco claps [19:03] ^.~ [19:04] do you require further swaying? :P [19:04] this is reminding me a little of that Dave Chappelle skit, The Racial Draft [19:05] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) left irc: Connection reset by peer [19:05] Necos: I'm sold [19:05] lol [19:05] that skit was awesome [19:05] Konnichi wa bitches [19:06] ff7h__ (n=jws@evvlinlwtp-sbc-01-pat.qcommcorp.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:06] I've been surfing a couple of time around Santa Monica, so I was kinda bluffing the whole time [19:06] Necos: lol [19:06] that's a great skit [19:06] lol [19:07] there's a particular professor that i don't want to be obliterated... she still has to see that i have published photographs :) [19:07] this sucks: slackware64 has a java plugin, but according to sun it doesn't work [19:08] i did a bunch of photography for my friend's beauty spa... and she's publishing them in a brochure :) [19:08] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:08] Action: Necos is quite proud [19:08] Necos: cool [19:08] Necos: I shoot a little, mostly landscapes/nature [19:09] me too [19:09] nowhere near a pro, but my prof told me that i have good creativity :) [19:10] cool [19:10] nice [19:11] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) joined ##slackware. [19:13] Weird0ne (n=julianm@endeavor.jdrush.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:13] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [19:14] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [19:17] john_dee (n=id@93-81-140-161.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [19:17] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:17] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:21] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [19:21] damn, people just don't stop calling... it's 430 already >.> [19:22] it's friday, and i work at a school... people just need to go home :) [19:23] I'm taking your advice... [19:23] lol [19:23] later all... detaching to go home... [19:23] Action: esoteric is AFK [19:24] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [19:26] laters [19:26] hhmmm i need to listen to some kamelot [19:27] /help [19:27] lol [19:27] damn this irc script [19:27] lol [19:27] ircII EPIC5-1.0 (20081225) [1581] amnesiac/2.0.1 (20090610) [cvs (19)] [19:28] oh nice [19:28] lol, yes, i don't use irssi [19:29] what do you use ? [19:29] Action: Necos points up [19:29] ok [19:29] epic5 [19:29] Action: deco loves irssi [19:29] i like epic... it's simple [19:30] Action: deco checks it out [19:30] epic. it's like going back to 1995 :) [19:31] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [19:31] i've been using it for almost as long ^.^ [19:31] Action: ananke just left bitchx, after using it for more than a decade [19:31] hmmm doesn't support utf8 :P [19:32] utf8 is overrated anyways, who want's to write bash scripts in sanskrit anyways? [19:33] people do lol [19:33] if it can't fit in a byte, then screw it, knowdamean? [19:33] but utf-8 support would be useful for japanese [19:34] or even french (for those wierd squiggles) [19:34] can't bust out my awesome french to Camarade_Tux without it :P [19:34] hcfd (n=fed@host86-131-179-38.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [19:37] gnubien (n=e@123.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:38] yeah :P [19:39] wtf? [19:40] attributes "no copy/uninterrupted" in k3b [19:40] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [19:40] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:40] guess i need to use clone-copy mode >.> [19:41] i don't trust k3b anymore [19:41] freezes on me [19:41] at 99% [19:41] using the cli tools now [19:41] i like k3b for doing multiple copies [19:41] yeah [19:42] ananke: what do you use now? [19:42] mingdao: irssi [19:42] same as you, but xchat rather than bx [19:43] one thing i miss from bitchx is f2/f3 keys. first one shows you a list of ops, second one list of non-ops [both with nick and hostname] [19:43] you can probably bind those keys in irssi [19:43] i did, but irssi doesn't show the same stuff [19:43] I joined #irssi just to read [19:44] must say though that I've had much better success "editing the config by hand" [19:44] so I don't ask many questions in #irssi .... that's blasphemy to them, and they let you know pdq [19:45] most time consuming task for me was finding a theme i like: highlight the important stuff while not being obnoxious [19:45] I hear ya. [19:45] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.82.146) joined ##slackware. [19:45] I have one that I slowly edit. [19:45] pdq? pretty damn quick? [19:45] mostly okay now, if I could just get this bottom bar changed to a more likeable color [19:46] i liked epic because the scripts available for it are damn simple [19:46] yes sir [19:46] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:46] Necos: pretty dumb question :P [19:46] no dumb question [19:46] except the one not answered [19:46] and i don't need all the bells and whistles... that's what i got a blackberry for [19:46] mingdao: no i was messing with the pdq [19:46] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:47] blackberry? what has that to do with IRC? isn't that a phone? [19:47] also a tasty fruit [19:47] mingdao: just playing with the acronym :P [19:47] i meant, all the auxilary features that irssi has :P [19:47] everyone knows irc and dessert go hand in hand [19:47] like someone was saying they use it to access twitter [19:47] Action: mingdao is on serious mode ... must rewire office today [19:48] Necos: I understand now. If you want simple, xchat was great for that for me. [19:48] boojit (n=boojit@gw.carter.to) left irc: "leaving" [19:49] When I first lurked in #irssi, someone would say, "How do you do with irssi. Almost every time I thought, "xchat does that by default." [19:49] I'm still working on getting irssi to log like xchat. [19:49] Kiboney_Dude (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [19:49] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.159) joined ##slackware. [19:49] Kiboney_Dude (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:50] hi mbohun [19:50] hello [19:50] i just can't use xchat over ssh :) [19:50] for me using screen was the reason for irssi ... I'm glad for both [19:50] Kiboney_Dude (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:51] Necos: you can use it with nx iirc [19:51] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:51] why bother? i use compression, epic, and my little script, and i'm god [19:51] *good [19:51] you're god? [19:51] okay [19:51] damn k3b lag :) [19:51] lol [19:51] mo betta [19:52] Necos: use CLI [19:52] that is what hooked me on *nix ... multitasking and CLI [19:52] Why do we use Linux? Because it's _fun_ !!! [19:52] i use cli tools a lot of the time, but typing can cause carpal, so i like when i don't have to type ALL the time [19:53] Necos: I copy and paste or alias those commands. [19:53] yeah, but i just have to click a button :) [19:53] same here [19:53] click click line of text click middle mouse [19:53] done [19:54] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [19:54] i click start and everything happens :P [19:55] nah, you gotta do more in k3b that click start [19:55] 07:45 < fire|bird> lol [19:55] 07:45 < mingdao> mo betta [19:55] 07:45 < mingdao> Necos: use CLI [19:55] ...? [19:55] Necos: He middle clicked.....done ;) [19:55] sorry, putty + screen + irssi + windows = mouse fart ;) [19:56] +1 fire|bird [19:56] only in Winders it doesn't work the same [19:56] grep 'cdrecord' good_commands <- what I meant to paste [19:56] that gives me many choices to click and paste into a term [19:57] but ... that is what's so neat about Linux ... many choices [19:57] Ojg (n=org@c-83-233-59-82.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:58] >.> [19:58] lol [19:59] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) joined ##slackware. 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[20:08] If you are not in the netdev group, you can add yourself to it and then log out and back in. [20:09] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [20:09] which you really should do anyway :) [20:10] hmmmm those 100 pack dvd-r's for 17 bucks loook tempting on newegg.com [20:10] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:13] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:13] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:13] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) joined ##slackware. [20:14] you can just edit /etc/passwd to have shell be /bin/false :P [20:14] random question, does KDE have a "calculator" app? lol [20:15] Necos: of course lol [20:15] kcalc [20:15] i forgot the name :) [20:15] Necos: :P [20:17] finishing my lab write-up before class, so a bit scatter-brained [20:17] heh [20:18] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left ##slackware. [20:19] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [20:20] chopp (n=chopp@d204-191-88-5.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [20:20] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Client Quit [20:20] Necos, yeah, that doesn't work well when i need to run a sudo -i [20:22] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: [20:22] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [20:24] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-125-162.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:24] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:26] hey,folks...how's everyone? [20:26] Action: NaCl waves [20:26] y0 MLanden [20:27] Action: MLanden waves back to NaCl [20:27] heya,deco [20:28] yskapell (n=panthro@athedsl-4524881.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [20:28] hello [20:28] heya,yskapell [20:29] when I run photos@dexter:/home/photos/imageindex-1.1$ ./imageindex [20:29] i get this error [20:29] http://pastebin.com/d1c9a7e2a [20:29] I update the perl using slackpkg [20:29] any idea? [20:29] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:30] Hm. [20:30] Action: NaCl thinks that ImageMagick may need to be updated [20:30] s/updated/reinstalled [20:31] NaCl: slackpkg has no new updates [20:31] No, I mean, I think the package needs to be rebuilt [20:31] alienBOB / rworkman: ^ [20:32] Tirili (n=opera@dslc-082-083-158-165.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [20:32] alrighty, i'm out of here... [20:32] later folks [20:32] yskapell: Is PerlMagick a needed module for that program? [20:32] later Necos [20:32] I have this version of iamge magick [20:32] imagemagick-6.5.3_3-x86_64-1 [20:33] Tirili (n=opera@dslc-082-083-158-165.pools.arcor-ip.net) left ##slackware. [20:33] perhaps [20:33] before the update worked perfect [20:33] MLanden: I think the perl modules need to be recompiled [20:34] true,NaCl [20:34] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [20:34] Many more than just ImageMagick [20:34] pidgin, irssi, and svn [20:35] Three is probably not "many" [20:36] yskapell: it should work if you download the slackbuild from a mirror, and recompile ImageMagick [20:36] Well, at least I think so. I haven't used perl in forever [20:36] Tirili (n=opera@dslc-082-083-158-165.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [20:37] NaCl: If I reinstall it from slackpkg will work or not? [20:37] No. [20:37] The package needs to be rebuilt. [20:37] You are using -current, right? [20:38] right [20:38] what else packages need to rebuild? [20:38] When I start up kde in sw13 on my laptop, there is always a numpad emulated on the right half of the keyboard. I always have to switch it off manually pressing fn and F11. Do you know how this function is called and how to disable it? [20:39] yskapell: I don't think anything else needs to be rebuilt, but I am not sure. [20:39] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-146-121.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [20:40] ok [20:40] NaCl: how can I rebuilt for x86_64? [20:41] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:43] yskapell: grab the stuff in http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware64-current/source/xap/imagemagick/ and run the slackbuild [20:43] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-170-216-174.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [20:44] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:45] ahve idea on this i just got syntax error on my iptable rule---->A OUTPUT -d 192.168.2.0/24 -p tcp -m DPORT --dport=80 -j ACCEPT [20:45] hacfed (n=fed@host86-140-255-134.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [20:45] hcfd (n=fed@host86-131-179-38.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:46] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:46] whats -m DPORT do again? [20:47] anyhow, use --dport 80, no "=" [20:47] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [20:47] j0z (n=j0z@201.22.31.123.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:54] hrmmm [20:55] unixfool (n=ron@about/slackware/wigglit) left irc: "brb" [20:55] NaCl: worked! thnx [20:55] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.159) left irc: "Leaving" [20:55] yskapell: yay [20:55] unixfool (n=ron@about/slackware/wigglit) joined ##slackware. [20:55] yskapell: awesome [20:56] unixfool: curious: what type of bot is slackboy ? [20:56] NaCl: had to look at the slackbuild and has the warning if perl is updated that it has to be updated as well [20:56] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-206-236.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [20:57] MLanden: where? I don't see it. [20:58] mesa_booger (n=mesa_boo@unaffiliated/mesa-booger/x-2567591) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:58] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. 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[21:20] anyone? have one of those? http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/motel268/ide_to_sata.JPG [21:20] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:20] i bought one of these. but IDE hard drive does not work. any ideas? [21:20] anyone? have one of those? http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/motel268/ide_to_sata.JPG [21:20] i bought one of these. but IDE hard drive does not work. any ideas? [21:21] meatbun: yes [21:22] but I don't have any IDE drives [21:22] :( [21:22] what kind of drive 2.5/3.5? [21:24] 3.5 IDE [21:24] neonflux, [21:25] hmm, most likely buy a sata to IDE converter [21:26] i already spent 10 bucks on this cable/adapter... [21:27] my mutli adapter works fine with PATA 2.5 and 3.5 as well as SATA [21:27] ruben23 (n=RPL@122.55.48.243) left ##slackware. [21:27] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:27] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:28] yeah, I believe mine can read both [21:28] don't have it handy thought [21:28] s/thought/though/ [21:29] antiwire, what did u do? [21:30] it's PATA 3.5 inch [21:30] i correctly plugged the drive into the adapter [21:30] Later,folks...take care [21:30] see ya MLanden [21:30] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-125-162.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [21:30] v4nelle (n=van@adsl155-152.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:31] antiwire, how so... correctly would it be? [21:32] really? [21:32] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:32] there only one god damn way to plug i in [21:33] Well it's not working so either it's connect incorrectly, the adapter is junk or the drive is bad. [21:34] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:35] ok...what's the chances of slackpkg upgrade-all killing your bash? [21:35] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:35] depends on how slackpkg was configured and if you paid attention to what it upgraded. [21:35] drive is good, i just formatted and wrote 4 GB of data on it via internal IDE cable [21:36] meatbun: So guess what the next two variables to test are? [21:36] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Reconnecting" [21:36] must be the jumpers... [21:37] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [21:37] no [21:37] oops.. wrong channel ~_~ [21:38] fire|bird, hey [21:38] Tirili (n=opera@dslc-082-083-158-165.pools.arcor-ip.net) left ##slackware. [21:44] Rat409 (n=Rat409@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [21:45] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:45] meatbun (n=meatbun3@cpe-98-155-141-248.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:48] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [21:49] stygian (i=stygian@ppp-70-129-230-97.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [21:52] slacks21 (n=ckuttruf@ip68-101-220-87.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] evening all. has anyone had experience using adobe reader with the 64-bit slackware 13? [21:53] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:53] I thought adobe reader was only a 32-bit app ? [21:56] it is apparently... but I'm wondering if there's a workaround [21:56] I need some of the functionality specific to adobe's pdf viewer [21:56] like? :) [21:56] slacks21: you must use nspluginwrapper to have Adobe Reader under Slackware64 [21:57] mingdao: thanks; I'll check that out [21:57] slacks21: look in alienBOB's repo for nspluginwrapper [21:57] will do [21:57] slacks21: I need Adobe's better version, also ... np [21:58] thrice: some of the authentication [21:58] doesn't slack64 have 32bit compatibility libraries? [21:58] not sure if anything like kpdf or okular handle some of that [21:58] heavens no! [21:58] mako-sama: not officially ... those come from alienBOB [21:58] i see [21:59] slacks21: check okular or if it's still available xpdf ... I do professional graphic work and require Reader [21:59] or evince [22:00] mingdao: thanks; I'll do that [22:00] yeah, I've been really happy with the 64-bit version. the speed difference is quite noticeable [22:01] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-216-174.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:03] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [22:03] farchanjo (n=Brazil@189-92-147-39.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:06] slacks21, yeah, i've noticed that it handles things much more quickly on a core2 than the 32 bit version [22:06] Action: nyRednek is doing his slackbuilds [22:07] nyRednek: I'm on the quad-core deneb, and I've seen a really substantial performance increase [22:08] especially since it's recognizing more ram now (4 as opposed to 3 gigs) [22:08] pragma_ (n=pragma@unaffiliated/pragma/x-109842) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:08] slacks21, i'm just on a dual core [22:08] slacks21, and i'm just at 1gig of ram [22:09] pragma_ (n=pragma@unaffiliated/pragma/x-109842) joined ##slackware. [22:09] so with processors of register sizes with 64-bits, do 32-bit OS's just not use the rest of the register? [22:10] or is it simply that instructions to and from memory are substantially more efficient since instructions can take advantage of the expanded word size for a more expansive instruction set? [22:11] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [22:12] slacks21, good question [22:12] slacks21, i'm not a tech [22:12] slacks21, i'm a wannabe pro musician [22:12] cool; what do you play? [22:12] slacks21, having to dip back to some 12.2 slackbuilds [22:12] lol [22:12] slacks21, synth [22:13] slacks21, i'm trying to get everything going, including ardour [22:13] oh wow [22:13] and the slackbuilds for ardour's dependencies just don't exist on 13 [22:13] never seen that before [22:13] gotcha [22:13] ardour is a lot like cakewalk [22:14] Rat409 (n=Rat409@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.0"). [22:14] not familiar with the different progs out there. I have a friend that does stuff with reason, but 'ts all greek to me [22:14] and rosegarden is a bit like cubase [22:15] and, of course, you have sooper looper, kinda like fruity loops [22:15] farchanjo (n=Brazil@189-92-147-39.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "foda!" [22:15] well, cakewalk and cubase together could easily run you a couple grand [22:15] except rosegarden doesn't have any software synth stuff [22:15] ;) [22:16] godling, that's why you add a synth to it [22:16] it can use plugins from qsynth(if you want the boring stuff) or zynaddsubfx(if you want to have some real fun) [22:17] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [22:17] correction, can play its midi through zynaddsubfx [22:18] in truth, cubase's software synths are as boring as the freepats soundfont [22:18] nothing better than wavetable [22:19] i don't really like wavetable or those who extensively use it...*cough* yamaha *cough* [22:19] well that's your opinion. :P [22:19] I loved Cubase when I used it. [22:19] I haven't in a long time. [22:20] godling, a warm live-synthesized always sounds better in the recording... [22:20] another opinion [22:21] slacks21 (n=ckuttruf@ip68-101-220-87.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:21] :P [22:21] godling, a particularly popular one among synth heads [22:21] godling, the only people who often use wavetable are those learning to keyboard or wannabe pop divas [22:21] you mean live-synthesized like played through an amp and recorded via microphone? [22:22] godling, i mean the sound generated through circuits instead of pulled from a sound library [22:22] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:22] hardware synth, then [22:23] and, imho, simulated circuits(virtual analog) is almost as good as true analog [22:23] godling, sometimes [22:23] nyRednek: speaker-test -f 1000 -t sine #range is 50-5000 hz; man speaker-test [22:23] meh [22:24] gnubien, iow, i don't pick on kids who show up with an aleisis or simila [22:24] i'm not a moog snob [22:24] no, but you're apparently a scenester :P [22:24] godling: know why quiznos is not on channel lately? [22:24] godling, maybe [22:24] gnubien: apparently he got k-lined [22:24] gnubien: that's just what I heard [22:25] godling: wow, bad boy ;/ [22:25] gnubien, i saw him in here yesterday [22:25] ah [22:25] no you didn't nyRednek [22:26] definitely not :) [22:26] godling, i could have sworn i did [22:26] godling, oh well [22:26] nyRednek: /msg nickserv info quiznos [22:26] godling: last weekend was last i saw Quiznos post on this channel [22:29] sirslacker (n=aligp@91.99.11.89) joined ##slackware. [22:29] ercula (n=ercula@75-168-246-100.mpls.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [22:32] ercula (n=ercula@75-168-246-100.mpls.qwest.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:34] icy1 (n=Administ@74-44-49-80.dr01.famt.mn.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:35] icy1 (n=Administ@74-44-49-80.dr01.famt.mn.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:35] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:37] and yes .. he got k-lined. [22:37] BP{k}: how to find if some nick was k-lined? [22:37] gnubien: channel logs, or you can just trust my word for it. [22:37] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-146-121.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [22:38] icy1 (n=Administ@74-44-49-80.dr01.famt.mn.frontiernet.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [22:38] BP{k}: i trust you, just curious if there was some freenode log or chanserv command for it [22:38] icy1 (n=Administ@74-44-49-80.dr01.famt.mn.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:38] BP{k}, who did you k-line? [22:39] BP{k}: i trust you but not enough to buy swamp land in florida from you ;) [22:39] quiznos? [22:39] gnubien: not that I know through nickserv. [22:39] BP{k}: ok, thanks for the info [22:39] edman007: yep, Quiznos [22:40] edman007: Quiznos was a bad,bad boy apparently ;/ [22:40] ohh, why? what did he do? [22:40] you got to be real bad to get a k-line [22:40] yep [22:40] edman007: It wasn't from here, somewhere else. [22:40] edman007: I am sure the lesson to be learned is .. "don't piss off ircops" ;) [22:40] audacity still compiling... [22:41] Action: nyRednek falls asleep [22:41] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "Leaving" [22:41] howdy BP{k} [22:41] Action: edman007 tries to check his logs [22:42] edman007: 9.4.09 or 9.5.09 [22:42] fire|bird: howdy :) [22:42] i'm grepping [22:42] Action: edman007 waits [22:42] BP{k}: yea, guess quiznos needs to take a refresher course in netequitte [22:43] gnubien: and the english language. [22:43] gnubien: among others yes. [22:44] didn't say anything in ##linux...and alienBOB was surprised in ##slackware [22:45] and thats all i have :( [22:45] why do klines suprise you guys anywya [22:46] [05-10-2009][10:37] <<< SignOff: Quiznos [K-lined] (timestamps are in UTC) [22:46] he's still not back yet eh [22:49] ideas? I need a word that is close to recruitor that is inviting yet intimidating. [22:49] recruiter* [22:49] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:49] i know it's way offtopic, just need some advice. thanks. [22:49] jeev, because people we know are suppose to get banned, k-lines are for people who attack the network, now it appears someone we know attacked the network...and thats crazy talk [22:50] edman007: not necessarily attack the network. [22:50] hello fire|bird [22:50] mrselfpwn, in what context? [22:51] mrselfpwn: google recruiter synonyms or search for thesaurus and search there [22:51] hey mrselfpwn [22:51] edman007, late 90's or early 2000's, i forgot when [22:51] i rooted an EU efnet server and mkilled everyone [22:51] yeaah, i did though it's actually a pretty monolithic word [22:51] edman007: you can get klined for joining certain channels at freenode too iirc [22:52] Action: edman007 join #k-line-me [22:52] s/join/joins/ [22:52] mrselfpwn: How's it going? [22:52] edman007: in the context of great recruiters [22:52] edman007: certain known hacker channels, that is [22:53] like hitler. i know it's not a well liked example though similar to that [22:53] mrselfpwn: ... uh .. come again? [22:53] fire|bird: pretty good. got my kernel all sorted out and built for my desktop. [22:54] was crazy [22:54] trust BP{k}'s word.. he was klined [22:54] BP{k}: Someone who can move masses i guess. [22:54] To join them. [22:55] korg815 (n=korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [22:55] a sysnonym for such type person. [22:55] mrselfpwn: you're looking for a word? [22:56] yes esoteric [22:56] mrselfpwn: motivational [22:56] yes, i've thought of that one myself. it's the best one I can find. [22:57] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:57] that and initiator [22:58] RIP: Quiznos [22:59] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:59] mrselfpwn: persuasive, revolutionary perhaps [22:59] sirslacker (n=aligp@91.99.11.89) left ##slackware. [23:00] yes, those are good too esoteric. thanks for the suggestions. i think i'll look more into the "persuasive" word route. [23:01] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [23:01] quiznos will be back...don't worry [23:01] I'm looking for a title moreso, that can say all of those things in a word or two. that's why I asked. thanks again. [23:03] you gave me some new ideas to pursue. thank you. [23:03] r00t_ninja (n=r0Ot_nin@222-155-103-74.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [23:03] nyRednek: uhm .. actually that would make me woriy. :) [23:03] worry* [23:04] BP{k}, we both know that someone who becomes a fixture somewhere finds a way to keep themselves around [23:05] should adding bind-address = 0.0.0.0 [23:05] to /etc/my.cnf allow me to connect remotely to my mysql server? [23:06] nyRednek: hew wasn't that much a fixture .. apart from his own mind really. [23:06] BP{k}, maybe you can help me real quick... [23:06] i just screwed something up and need to fix it quick [23:06] nyRednek: that might depend on the question. :) [23:06] but fire away and we'll see. [23:07] i accidentally installed i486 bash on slack64 [23:07] upgradepkg [23:07] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:07] nyRednek: which package(s) [23:08] Dominian, yeah, about that... /bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory [23:08] BASH [23:08] he he [23:08] nyRednek: can you start another shell? [23:08] BP{k}, nope [23:08] If you can't start another shell, more than likely you'll have to use the installation cd to do the fix [23:09] Dominian, hoping i can just detar the old bash and make it work for a minute [23:09] wubbster (n=wubbster@doc-24-206-157-137.kw.tx.cebridge.net) joined ##slackware. [23:09] YMMV [23:09] nyRednek: what happends if you do /bin/ksh or /bin/zsh [23:11] BP{k}, it works [23:11] and i think i have a quick fix [23:12] nyRednek: well there you go .. you have another shell ;) [23:12] BP{k}, using ash for the moment [23:12] that works too. [23:13] personally I would use ksh, ammend the sh symlink to ash. upgrade bash etc .. make it work (on a nother console) then change the symlink back [23:13] yeah, getting a syntax error on pkgtool [23:14] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@24.64.107.189) joined ##slackware. [23:14] Dominian: hm dou you think an explodepkg in / would work .. then reinstall bash properly afterwards (to bring /var/log/packages/ up to scratch? [23:15] s#explodepkg#untar# (and also run doinst.sh ) [23:17] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:18] it's working now [23:18] got bash back [23:18] \o/ [23:18] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [23:18] yeah, my thoughts exactly [23:18] that scared the hell out of me [23:19] nyRednek: hehe, I did something similar once by using chsh on the root account to change root's shell to /usr/bin/bash ... [23:21] BP{k}: what version of bash do you have? default or did you upgrade? [23:21] default [23:22] neonflux: on my desktop default. my laptop has a 'testing' install that uses bash-4.xx from testing/ [23:23] BP{k}: anything noteworthy about 4.x? [23:23] lib (i=hex@c-24-62-142-190.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [23:23] I tried 4.0 on 12.2 but quickly changed back. I don't remember why :/ [23:24] Hey neonflux, how's it going? [23:24] neonflux: not that I can tell you yet. I haven't really had the time to play around with bash4. I finished of the 5 installs I have on the laptop ;) [23:24] neonflux: perhaps it broke some scripts? [23:24] BP{k}: maybe [23:24] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [23:24] Hi fire|bird [23:24] fire|bird: its going good for a lazy Friday night [23:25] fire|bird: how are you? [23:25] neonflux: great, thanks. I'm just messing with digikam and watching the snow fall. :) [23:26] fire|bird: yeah, I just upgraded digikam to 1.0beta5 the other day [23:26] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:26] same here. [23:26] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@24.64.107.189) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [23:27] fire|bird: where you at? because of the snowfall [23:27] Minnesota [23:27] oh, wow [23:28] I don't know anybody from Minnesota...a lot of my friends around here are from Michigan [23:29] neonflux: I believe that with bash4 ``should really have been deprecated, but it seems it's still sorta backwards compatible [23:29] it's fixed, i think [23:29] although slackpkg is failing to format package lists 'slackpkg style' [23:31] osiro (n=osiro@189-18-38-59.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:31] and i know there are updates [23:31] maybe install slackpkg again [23:31] ? [23:32] ny, you might wnat to at least log out/ back in and all [23:32] s/ny/nyRednek/ [23:32] did that a few times [23:33] Does my user need to be a member of the disk group for k3b to have cdrecord "open the device"? [23:34] esoteric: cdrom group [23:35] osiro (n=osiro@189-18-38-59.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware. [23:35] groups: floppy audio video cdrom plugdev and k3b still says "cdrecord does not have permission to open device" [23:36] did they change that in 13 because in 12.2 didn't you have to assign the group to allow [23:36] brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 11, 1 2009-10-01 18:06 /dev/sr1 [23:36] esoteric: Hmm, not sure than. I am not in the disk group and k3b works fine. [23:36] s/than/then/ [23:36] esoteric: ls -l /usr/bin/cdrecord ? [23:37] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 364756 2009-02-19 12:29 /usr/bin/cdrecord [23:37] the reinstall of slackpkg seems to have fixed it [23:37] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:37] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-110-212.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [23:37] if I cdrecord as root everything works fine [23:38] do you need a burner group to allow k3b to let the member of that group go wild [23:39] I never used a burner group [23:39] but the last time I burned stuff it was a DVD, and burned it from the command line [23:39] BP{k}: maybe I should try to cdrecord the iso from the commandline real quick... [23:39] so what groups do the user you use to burn stuff belong to [23:40] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: "Leaving" [23:40] my groups are my own user-id group, floppy, audiot, video,cdrom, plugdeve,power,netdev,users [23:40] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.47.142) joined ##slackware. [23:42] BP{k}: my user is not a member of the users group. Think that's it? [23:42] esoteric, that may be it [23:43] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:44] is there a way to reload your groups without having to logout and log back in? [23:44] not really, I think. [23:44] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [23:45] hehe -> [@github:63] The often mistyped guthub.com now redirects to github.com, [23:45] lol [23:45] jail (n=jail@189.6.147.229) joined ##slackware. [23:45] BP{k}: that might work [23:46] k logged out and back in [23:46] Dominian: good of you to join in now the issues is resolved ;) [23:46] heh [23:46] I had to make a phone call [23:46] ;P [23:48] exit [23:48] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-110-212.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Extended" [23:49] init[0]: looks like gnome... So do we call you a halfling? [23:49] oh god damn it. [23:49] scroll back fail again. [23:50] what does the "Use Burnfree" option do under Advanced Settings for K3B? [23:51] agentc0re: haha [23:51] agentc0re: hahaha, you're getting bad at that. :P [23:56] i am. [23:56] plus i've tapped the keg.. if you know what i mean. [23:56] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [23:57] basically you laid down on the floor and opened it ;) [23:57] r00t_ninja (n=r0Ot_nin@222-155-103-74.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "Leaving" [23:58] Oh so make things better this week to go along with my leg injury, i had both my big toe, toe nails removed permanently. Who wants to see video? :D [23:58] BP{k}: .. Maybe..... [23:58] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:58] agentc0re: What the heck did you do to your toe's? :P [23:58] fire|bird: they always grow ingrown. [23:59] agentc0re: :P, I thought maybe you tried landing on your tip toes this time. :P [23:59] actually, BP{k} had front row tickets.. didn't you? ;) [00:00] --- Sat Oct 10 2009