[00:00] mancha, full dmesg here: http://pastebin.ca/1745032 [00:00] or did you mean a piece of info you expected to be there wasn't? [00:01] i meant not a full dmesg [00:01] ech (n=Me@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: "Use the source, guy" [00:01] and as a rsult somethig i expected to be there was missing :) [00:02] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [00:04] was that you plugging/unplugging the usb-serial thing? [00:05] Yeah I did plug/unplug/plug/ [00:07] hexbit (n=alain@156.34.219.171) left ##slackware. [00:10] you need a driver and the one you have isn't for the kernel you use :| [00:10] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [00:11] Thanks for your help guys [00:11] nathan, some brazilian site sugests: modprobe usbserial vendor=0x9710 product=0x7715 [00:12] modprobe -r first [00:12] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:13] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:14] 333359 out of 353617 [00:14] almost done [00:14] nearly 4 hours [00:14] holy crap you guys rock so hardcore [00:15] I got /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 [00:15] thanks! [00:15] you're in binness [00:15] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:16] nathan, you can probably put an options file in modprobe.d so this happens on its own [00:16] very cool [00:16] Now to figure out which one is the db9 connector, and how to listen to it [00:17] hopefully the one with 9 pins [00:17] (found a minicom tutorial on the web) [00:17] mancha, haha right. But I mean ttyUSB0 or ttyUSB1 [00:17] heh [00:18] I think we all seriously under-estimated how long it takes to parse 350 thousand lines of text [00:18] slack_fish (n=slack_fi@59.72.110.45) joined ##slackware. [00:19] Nick change: antiwire -> DrStrangeNix [00:19] nathan, the simplest (and fastest) might be a guess & check. you've got a 50/50 on the first guess and yo won't have to make more than 2 guesses, guaranteed [00:20] add the handful of different com settings and you could potentially have a lot more than 2 guesses [00:20] LIKE THE LOTTO [00:20] all you need is a dollar and a tty [00:21] 342077/353617 [00:22] DrStrangeNix, had to calculate those figures...averaging like 24 and 1/2 by the second..:) [00:22] it's brutal but effective [00:22] my system is soon to be back to normal [00:23] tuvok302Lappy_ (n=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-85.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:24] I'm pretty sure that using chmod and .* -R as root is what done did me up proper [00:26] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:26] so, i'm going tot ry and use a different WM instead of xfce, do any of you have a suggestion? [00:27] Reticenti, minimalistic? [00:27] gm152 (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:27] MLanden: yeah [00:27] Ryzor (n=King@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:27] xfce is not really a wm, it includes on xfwm4, xfce is a desktop env proper; just a wm will not have the stuff you see on xfce (just a warning) [00:28] yaeh [00:29] i'm currently downloading xmonad, is that a good choice? [00:29] Reticenti, like a pair of shoes...you have to wear 'em to answer that question..:) [00:29] :) [00:30] if you go by popularity i'd say W-M and icewm are up there, maybe fvwm [00:31] notKlaat1 (n=klaatu@c-24-131-254-113.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:31] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [00:31] LOL the upgradepkg deleted the files I didnt want deleted! [00:32] xmonad is a very good wm, sadly it needs ~60-80mb of not so common dependencies. mostly th haskell compiler [00:32] finished! [00:32] holy crap. [00:32] haskell, wth! [00:32] ardya, which package? [00:32] pekwm is really nice as well imo [00:33] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: "/etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start" [00:34] sahk0: that's fine, i'm not pressed for space [00:34] though, I will have to get use to rxvt [00:34] one I'm making [00:34] the comment is more about building being a pain in the ass than HD space [00:35] yeah [00:35] ghc in SBo repackages a ghc binary iirc so its not that bad [00:35] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:36] ardya, ok [00:36] ComputerNoobie (n=peter@adsl-76-254-61-195.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:36] Nick change: notKlaat1 -> notKlaatu [00:36] sahk0: oh,t ahts nice, i'm isntalling ghc riht now actually, it was a fairly large d/l though [00:37] (installing via sbopkg [00:37] imo 60-80 mb and building/maintaining 3-4 additional packages is overkill for just a wm [00:38] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:38] xmonad is nice, but in the end of the day, its just a wm [00:38] lol [00:39] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:39] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:40] tuvok302Lappy (i=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-204.dial.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:40] Nick change: tuvok302Lappy_ -> tuvok302LAppy [00:40] Nick change: tuvok302LAppy -> tuvok302Lappy [00:41] slack_fish (n=slack_fi@59.72.110.45) left irc: "‚»" [00:44] I stopped xmonad [00:44] i like compiz too much lol [00:46] ardya (i=ardy@unaffiliated/ardya) left ##slackware ("Ciao!"). [00:49] DrStrangeNix (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware. [00:49] Reticenti, you could try ecomorph(E17 with compiz)...still alpha but might serve ya well http://code.google.com/p/itask-module/wiki/Stuff [00:52] thanks, i'll look into that [00:53] Reticenti, np..good luck [00:55] also, When I startx (with xfce) I'm pretty sure it's loading things that it later kills, where can I check what is being loaded when I startx? [00:55] read the startxfce4 script [00:56] and there's also a list of stuff it starts up in the xfce settings manager somewhere [00:56] thanks [00:57] actually its not that exciting as i can see [00:57] well, it leads me to ~/.xfce/xinit [00:58] which copies itself to ~.xinit [00:58] .xinitrc * [00:58] /etc/xfce/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc is probably much detailed [00:58] much more* [00:59] fluxbox, anyone? [00:59] well, I installed compiz, and I think xfce is still trying to load stuff, it laods, then compiz comes and replaces it [00:59] so i want to cut down on what xfce loads for a better startx time [01:00] wobbles (n=huntsman@C-59-101-191-58.mel.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [01:00] Reticenti, you could script those apps and place a sleep command before them then have xfce run the script in place [01:01] what do you mean? [01:02] Rat409 (n=rat@bb-205-209-66-99.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:02] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: "Real_Life();" [01:02] i.e. for conky.....i have sleep 13 && conky written to a script...when xfce starts up, it autostarts that script [01:02] ahhh, i see [01:03] sleep 13 is sleep 13 seconsd, right? [01:03] right [01:05] might need to salt and pepper that number to your taste depending on your processor..:) [01:05] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:06] So, I'm going to make a script that starts conky, emerald, compiz, and tilda, and have it all in one script, can I basically just do "sleep 5 \n\n conky \n\n sleep 3 \n\n emerald --replace ...." ? [01:06] where \n is an actual return [01:06] or do i need conky & [01:08] Fenix-Dark (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [01:08] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:08] might be one of those trial by error things..'specially on which starts first [01:09] mmk [01:10] Reticenti, shouldn't compiz autostart emerald as last window manager used? [01:10] it does [01:10] it's just kind of slow to start up [01:11] sorta like a hiccup to the X? [01:11] yeah [01:11] juice (i=juice@65.28.100.209) left irc: "Leaving" [01:12] hmm [01:12] interesting [01:12] i unclicked autostart on emerald, conky, and compiz, and it started up faster [01:12] i think I may have been loading it twice [01:15] same apps in xdg's autostart and user's autostart? [01:15] maybe [01:15] i dont know [01:16] After installing conky, I get "Conky: missing text block in configuration; exiting" when i run it. What could be the problem? [01:16] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:16] something in your conkyrc [01:16] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [01:16] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:18] bucky (n=bucky@173.84.178.101) left irc: "Leaving" [01:19] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [01:21] Reticenti, which version of compiz are you using? [01:22] .0.7.8 [01:22] default slack [01:24] fixed it by copying config file from /etc but it is showing some black terminal like theme. How do I change it? [01:24] enable doublebuffer [01:25] err [01:25] double_buffer yes [01:25] |Freya| (i=kvirc@a88-112-145-70.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [01:25] neogooglian, try killing conky and restarting it [01:28] <|Freya|> goodmorning .9 [01:28] Mornin' [01:29] <|Freya|> i was here sth like 7 hours ago under another nick, now i've got a lil' problem... [01:29] MLanden I did but it is still opening in xterm methinks. But it is working okay. How do I change its appearance , I have seen some cool screenshots of conky. [01:29] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [01:29] <|Freya|> for some reason on log in, even if i try logging in under the same nick it won't let me :( [01:30] wassup [01:30] neogooglian: you have to edit the conkyrc [01:30] neogooglian: google conkyrc and you'll get tons and tons of examples [01:31] Reticenti thanks [01:31] <|Freya|> i've tried configuring ident but it doesn't help [01:31] neogooglian, trial by error...lot of scipts floating 'round the web....pick the features you like and frankenstein it...:D [01:31] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [01:31] Dominian: you around? [01:32] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:32] |Freya|, did it give you a warning that the nick was registered? [01:33] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [01:33] <|Freya|> after last night? [01:33] I tried this one: http://conky.sourceforge.net/conkyrc-i8k. But when i restart conky it shows error. [01:33] <|Freya|> i use it all the time here [01:34] <|Freya|> it says the nick is in use tho [01:34] How should I change it? I did "cp conkyrc-i8k .conkyrc" which replaced the original. [01:34] neogooglian: does ti work though? [01:34] s/ti/it [01:34] Reticenti No it is not opening. [01:34] what are the errors neogooglian ? [01:35] It's kinda big so i'll post the first line here: Conky: use_spacer should have an argument of left, right, or none. 'no' seems to be some form of 'false', so defaulting to none. [01:35] <|Freya|> how can it be?i just quit here about 7 hours ago with that nick... [01:35] neogooglian: can you paste it to pastebin? [01:36] (btw, that wasnt an error, jsut a warning) [01:36] ok. I'll do that. [01:36] |Freya|, what's the nick? [01:36] <|Freya|> NUtmeg [01:36] <|Freya|> *Nutmeg [01:37] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving." [01:37] anyone messed with openshot yet? http://www.openshotvideo.com [01:37] Reticenti http://pastebin.com/d22655280 [01:37] |Freya|, do a /whois Nutmeg [01:38] <|Freya|> ahhh, well, it certainly isn't me [01:39] I am using Slackware 13.0 btw. [01:39] <|Freya|> oh well, it was just my xmasnick anyways, time to give it up i guess [01:39] neogooglian: replace your conkyrc with this one: http://pastebin.com/d5b0b57a6 [01:39] i removed the lines that had 18 in it [01:40] i8 * [01:40] agent, how does it compare to cinelerra or kino? [01:40] |Freya|, guess the other nutmeg returned after the holidays..:) [01:40] mancha: dunno... i havent tried it myself, was trying to get an opinion. looks nice though. [01:41] <|Freya|> i just found the nick so much me...(addictive but lethal in larger amounts...) [01:42] lol [01:43] neogooglian, what are the specs of your computer? [01:43] <|Freya|> i can't see if nutmeg's a registered nick [01:43] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:44] |Freya|, could tag a number on it and see if it allows you to register it [01:44] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-47.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [01:44] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-131-57.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [01:45] <|Freya|> errr...how do i do that? [01:45] <|Freya|> i haven't been using kvirc a lot [01:45] Reticenti I tried yours but only some are working and it is still opening in an xterm like window. I get http://pastebin.com/d20388fad [01:45] <|Freya|> and i feel like a babe in the woods [01:46] |Freya|, /msg nickserv register NICKNAME [01:46] MLanden It's a Intel Core 2 duo T6500 2.10Ghz with GMA x4500HD and 3GB RAM [01:46] <|Freya|> but i'm not sure if i want to register it... [01:46] NICKNAME being nutmeg and what ever number you want as your nick [01:46] |Freya|: '/join #freenode' they would help you out :) [01:47] neogooglian: I'll psot mine and see if you like it [01:47] Axius (n=fim@92.82.65.236) joined ##slackware. [01:47] <|Freya|> init[1]: thx :) [01:47] Reticenti: ok [01:48] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [01:48] neogooglian: http://pastebin.com/d1598e463 [01:48] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:49] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:49] hi people, a question about the kernel update SSA:2009-342-01.... [01:50] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:50] i have compiled my own 29.6 kernel (to enable 4g ram access mainly)... how do i apply this new kernel update? [01:52] neogooglian, have you got lm_sensors installed? [01:56] Reticenti I just tried that. Looks cool but when I drag a window over conky contents get destroyed. [01:56] interesting [01:56] Nick change: |Freya| -> rhynn [01:57] ok, i feel so much better now [01:57] MLanden yeah I've got it installed. [01:57] zoran119: when you recompile a kernel, you fix /etc/lilo.conf to point to the new kernel, make sure you've also compiled "make modules && make modules_install", then reboot [01:59] for some reason my fav nicks seem to be registered or in use on this network [01:59] juice (i=1000@67.48.17.30) joined ##slackware. [02:00] alisonken1home: so should i install the updates and then recompile the kernel again to get 4g of ram [02:00] does anyone know why I would get this messe whiel trying to use libnotify libnotify-Message: Unable to get session bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-5Pzry7axcv: Connection refused [02:01] I have libnotify installed [02:01] oh well... it doesn't look like any of the ppl i talk to last night is around [02:01] see you around! byez! [02:01] rhynn (i=kvirc@a88-112-145-70.elisa-laajakaista.fi) left ##slackware ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away"). [02:02] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [02:02] zoran119: I was under the impression that 2.6.29.* already had 4G ram enabled, but yes you would update the kernel with the options, recompile the kernel (plus modules if you're using a modularized kernel) [02:03] zoran119: I would also change the local_var so it doesn't replace the stock 2.6.29.6 kernel [02:03] alisonken1home: cool... that explains it... thanks... [02:03] otherwise, you can also update to the 2.6.32.3 kernel that was pushed [02:03] alisonken1home: yeah... did that last time i recompiled [02:03] alisonken1home: what do u mean by that? [02:04] 13-current just got a new kernel 2.6.32.3 [02:05] alisonken1home: ah ok... even newer one [02:05] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [02:05] might do that... should be ok for 13.0? [02:05] should be [02:06] alisonken1home, it's real nice with the older intel 865g [02:06] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [02:06] does anyone know how to get notify-send to work? [02:07] soloz (n=soloz@71.Red-79-148-234.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [02:08] it works if I make a new terminal, but if i try to run it in screen, it doesnt work [02:08] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: Client Quit [02:08] zoran119: when you config the kernel (make menuconfig or make xconfig) - under general setup is an option "Local version" that allows you to add an extra tag to the kernel name so it doesn't conflict with the current slackware kernel name [02:09] tavl_ (n=tavl@189.70.173.132) joined ##slackware. [02:09] it's interesting that make xconfig doesn't work in slack64-current - it's still looking for kde3 stuff [02:09] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [02:16] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201204959]" [02:17] Reticenti, running any other xfce4 apps from screen cause the same dbus error? [02:17] AlexElliott (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:18] AlexElliott (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:18] MLanden: i dont think so, but i'm not sure [02:18] MLanden: I think it has to do with screen [02:19] ok [02:20] amd it's not over ssh [02:21] I'm trying to get a irssi script working that will notify-send me whenever someone highlights/pm's me [02:22] but it doesnt seem to work because notify-send doesnt seem to work if it's ran ins creen [02:22] Reticent1 (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [02:22] Reticent1 (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [02:22] oh, weird [02:22] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:22] i think i jsut need to restart screen [02:22] brb [02:24] is LXDE any good? [02:25] tavl (n=tavl@189.70.135.6) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [02:25] dchmelik, nice on a netbook or a small laptop [02:27] Reticenti (n=reticent@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:27] Reticenti (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [02:27] ivan_ (n=ivan@247.92.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [02:30] MLanden: hey, can you highlight me to test the script? [02:31] Reticenti : ping [02:31] alisonken1home: thanks [02:31] np [02:31] it works now :) [02:31] now to make it always on top... [02:31] Reticenti: this time with the colon next to your name [02:31] cool [02:32] oh, it is always on top [02:32] well then [02:32] that's pretty neat [02:32] Reticenti did you get hilighted the second time? [02:32] yeah [02:32] ok [02:33] i'm running a pl script for irssi that sends a notify-send if i'm highlighted or pmed [02:33] it's pretty neat [02:36] brb [02:36] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-207-68-59-208.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:38] ivan_ (n=ivan@247.92.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:43] ^kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC3123B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [02:45] Rat409 (n=rat@bb-205-209-66-99.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("="). [02:46] Delahunt (n=robert@fe219-115.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [02:46] now that i'm playing around with notify-send, what else can I notify myself of =D [02:47] Reticenti: that you learned how to use notify-send? :P [02:47] notify-send "I learned notify send" [02:48] lol [02:48] woo [02:49] Reticenti: Ah, you're messing with the irssi notify script? [02:49] yeah [02:49] it's rpetty neat [02:49] yeah, I had it going for a bit here, only worked when I was in KDE though, and not in Xfce. [02:50] ah, it works in xfce for me [02:50] I'm using this one http://code.google.com/p/irssi-libnotify/ [02:50] really simple and effective [02:52] Hmm, I think that's the one I used, but I can't remember. I'll have to give it a try again. thanks. [02:55] hmm, now that I've changed to zsh, I can't su - while in screen [02:55] i get to the enter your password [02:55] but i can't hit enter [02:55] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-207-68-59-208.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:55] All your enters are belong to me. [02:55] Heya MLanden [02:55] indeed [02:55] molok0i (n=nome@92.49.76.223) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:55] hey,fire|bird [02:55] s/enters/nicks [02:56] agentc0re: 138 :D [02:56] lol [02:56] fire|bird, which one shouts the loudest? [02:56] agentc0re: and slackboy almost beat me when it couldn't identify itself. :P [02:57] MLanden: The 124th one. :P [02:57] hehe, yup. [02:57] lol [02:58] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-68-196.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:00] Reticenti, that app working perfectly? [03:00] yup [03:00] i just had to restart screen [03:00] cool beans [03:00] but now, I can't su while in screen because i changed to zsh [03:01] i can [03:01] t sudo either [03:01] i cant sudo either * [03:01] i get to password: but then it doesnt register enter [03:02] ctrl-c doesnt do anything either..... [03:03] it works fine in a regular terminal though [03:04] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:04] been a while since I messed with zsh [03:07] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:07] Fenix-Dark (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:09] marshallll [03:11] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC3123B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [03:11] neconide (n=neconide@ool-ad0360d1.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [03:12] sup guys [03:12] am i the only mirc user in this channel ? [03:12] most likely [03:13] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-186.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:13] jeev: I think you're forgetting that this is a LINUX channel [03:13] so yes, probably. [03:14] crazy [03:14] anyone have a suggestion for a mpd CLI interface? [03:14] i dont give a rats ass, i use slack on my laptop and i'm starting to use it more often on servers rather than bsd [03:14] does mpd have a cli interface? [03:14] the vpn? [03:14] no, music player daemon [03:14] jeev: why would you ever use bsd for a server [03:14] oh [03:14] neconide, it's cool.. [03:15] i can't decide between bsd and slack [03:15] to be honest [03:15] dios_mio (n=test@88.244.194.15) joined ##slackware. [03:15] hi [03:15] why not Slackware GNU/linux ? [03:15] jeev: oh, so you don't use it because you think it's the best choice for a server, you use it because you want to be a coolio bsd junkie? [03:16] no neconide, i use it because when i first started using bsd, i noticed some benefits [03:16] but those are slowly fading away [03:16] every time i have to heavily tweak shit for high bandwidth sites [03:16] i get annoyed [03:17] jeev: lol any benefits you could possibly see in bsd completely disintegrate when you take a closer look at linux distros that are aimed towards servers [03:17] tuvok302Lappy (n=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-85.dial.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:17] neconide, would you consider slackware aimed towards servers? [03:17] jeev: where I used to work I had to work with BSD for 5 years. [03:18] jeev: It has a nice balance. [03:18] neconide, i'd rather die than use any other linux [03:18] find / -name \*yourbase\* -exec chown us:us {} \; [03:18] bbiab or bbl [03:19] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [03:19] GNU/linux! [03:19] not linux [03:19] jeev: Arch is actually really nice. [03:19] ubuntu is good too [03:19] your mom is good too [03:20] reti, I am doing your mom [03:20] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [03:20] fffuuuu [03:20] wait [03:20] dad? [03:21] dios_mio: Ubuntu is an african word for 'i can't configure debian' [03:22] i recommend ubuntu [03:22] it is really really good [03:22] dios_mio: to who? [03:22] ever used it? [03:22] dios_mio: I've used it before. [03:22] lol [03:22] you install stuff easily... and it does updates automatically [03:22] dios_mio, exactly. [03:22] very easy [03:22] i install stuff easily too [03:22] dios_mio, I felt like I was using an operating system for autistic children. [03:22] reti, you compile [03:23] so? [03:23] Too easy isn't always fun or good. [03:23] neconide, too easy? [03:23] it's still easy [03:23] Reticenti, in ubuntu it takes seconds [03:23] easy != time [03:23] you must be masochistic [03:23] indeed [03:23] get out the whips and ball gags [03:23] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [03:24] Or maybe he's someone who enjoys a challenge and sees the difference between learning and just using an operating system that spoon-feeds you? [03:24] Just a wild guess. [03:24] dios_mio: since you recommend ubuntu, i recommend /j #ubuntu have all the fun you want there [03:24] yup [03:24] sahk0, <3 [03:24] sahk0, there is no chat there.. just help [03:24] dios_mio, #ubuntu-offtopic [03:25] besides what fun is it to discuss the merits of ubuntu with believers? [03:25] gtfo [03:25] i'd rather evangelize to infidels [03:25] There isn't any, they all have down syndrome or are autistic [03:25] i think you are maso [03:25] whats so wrong about being a masochist? [03:25] you enjoy the difficult [03:26] because it's fun. [03:26] i admit it can be fun [03:26] that's the real techophile/hacker spirit. [03:26] you're saying you don't like ass play everyonce in a while? [03:26] getting to know the system and tweak it can be fun.. if you are a geek minded person... but what if you just want to browse the web or listen to music? [03:27] dios_mio, then go install Windows [03:28] i used windows too.. until it stopped doing updates [03:28] dios_mio, I'm sure you've seen the commercials. "I'm a PC and Windows was my idea!" [03:28] windows is good, no problems with it... [03:28] What I find especially funny though, is that they describe Microsoft as 'life without walls' [03:28] In a world without walls, what use do you have for Windows? :P [03:28] only it catches too much malware [03:29] dios_mio, 1) antivirus 2) don't trust don't click [03:29] yes I know [03:29] ubuntu is good for me for now [03:29] or maybe you're one of those people that's dumb enough to go on a site with a sploitpack without using a sandboxed browser, or even worse, falls for java applets [03:29] after all, the look is the same with any other linux distro... after all there is a limited number of choices as desktop environments [03:30] lol [03:30] you really dont know do you [03:30] what [03:30] there's tons of WMs [03:30] what i said is true [03:30] I know that [03:30] Reticenti, the extent of his stupidity is so incredibly indescribable [03:30] i am happy with GNOME now [03:30] yeah [03:31] dont be dumb boys [03:31] I remember the time when KDE and GNOME first came out [03:31] I'm a gnome man, but I figured until gware released 13.0 x86_64 I'd stick with KDE, and I've got to tell you, after getting DeKorator and making my own theme I'm pretty happy. [03:31] in my time there was only windowmaker [03:31] i remember the first time i came out on your mom [03:31] neconide, GNOME with slackware? how many days did it take to install it? :) [03:32] ret, my PM [03:32] dios_mio, actually, I installed gnome manually on slackware on my tower. [03:32] neconide, it must have taken a week [03:32] dios_mio, that's why you shouldn't be using Ubuntu. I actually know what I'm doing and it took a whole hour to get a custom theme installed and everything. [03:32] dios_mio, you, however, closed yourself off to Ubuntu and you're stuck with no knowledge. [03:33] maybe you have a fast pc... that it compiled fast enough [03:33] what knowledge lol [03:33] what is there to know about ./configure && make install ?? [03:33] dios_mio, there's a lot of conflicts when you're installing gnome on KDE, especially in software. [03:33] what is there to know about your mom? [03:34] well [03:34] you are maso [03:34] i know now [03:34] dios_mio (n=test@88.244.194.15) left irc: "Leaving" [03:34] urthwrm (n=urthwrm@unaffiliated/urthwrm) joined ##slackware. [03:34] haha [03:34] lul [03:34] urthwrm, do you have a minute? [03:34] Reticenti: these kinda talks are _not_ encouraged in ##slackware [03:35] what kind of talks? [03:35] init[1], what kind of talks? [03:35] alienBOB, wtf, you always come out of nowhere. I didn't even see you join. [03:37] neconide: no sorry, i'm atheist. [03:37] urthwrm, that's a shame. Repent, join my religion, or you will burn in hell for all eternity. [03:38] lol [03:38] I don't feel like trolling today... [03:38] I'm agnostic [03:38] Axius_ (n=fim@92.82.65.236) joined ##slackware. [03:42] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:43] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [03:43] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) joined ##slackware. [03:43] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.92.112.140) left irc: "Leaving" [03:43] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.92.112.140) joined ##slackware. [03:44] I thought being agnostic was justified when there was little, or equal evidence supporting either argument? doesn't fence-sitting seem silly given the overwhelming evidence in favour of evolution? [03:45] some people are crazy though [03:45] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Connection reset by peer [03:46] giuppy (n=giuppy@host218-107-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:46] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [03:46] urthwrm, do you know what the measurement problem is? [03:47] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-091-096-102-138.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [03:47] urthwrm, an atom is spread out, all over the place, until a conscious observer decides to look at it. [03:47] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.76.223) joined ##slackware. [03:47] urthwrm, if you've ever heard of the parellel universe theory, or have read anything on parellel electrons, you'll understand what I'm about to tell you [03:49] urthwrm, everything is everywhere in every possible state doing every possible action all the time, until something conscious looks at it, at which time it takes a state which is subject to how the observer perceives it. but in reality, there is no mass, no nothing, just an arrangement of energy acting in varying ways relative to itself. We are all part of this energy, thus, we are all one. [03:49] Given the circumstances, we will never be able to have 'total consciousness' or completely understand our universe. You can put faith in whatever you want. You can put faith in an invisible man in the sky, or you can put faith in being sure there is no higher power. [03:49] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-101-95.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:50] I don't put faith in anything. I'm neutral. I'll find out when I die. [03:51] why not find out now? [03:51] urthwrm, that is why I'm agnostic. [03:51] dchmelik, hilarious. Reticenti, would you like to take care of dchmelik for me? :3 [03:52] dchmelik: well, you know what else died? last night, millions of my potential children died all over your moms face [03:52] Do not be an ass. [03:52] D: [03:52] hahahahahah beautiful. [03:52] both of you [03:53] I guess you are not just agnostic, you are culturally ignorant if you have people like that speak for you. [03:53] it's culturally ignorant to be an atheist>? [03:53] it may or may not be [03:54] but ignorant can be a key thing about agnosticism [03:54] ignorance* [03:54] so culture is the method for creating agod? [03:54] probably [03:54] toofer-home (n=toofer@c-67-182-217-108.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:54] neconide: I have no faith in being sure that there is no higher power, neither does any other atheist. Faith is based on ignorance, and in the overwhelming evidence in favour of evolution, faith doesn't come into play. [03:54] then without culture there is no god [03:54] not necessarily [03:55] threfore god cannot be [03:55] Action: urthwrm is going for a coffee [03:55] a statement like 'I'll find out when I die' also shows ignorance and worse yet, probably indifference to knowledge. [03:55] except in the case something is proven unknowable [03:55] Don't forget the doughnuts....:) [03:56] urthwrm, don't be ignorant. Faith: The confident belief or trust in the truth or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.[1] [03:56] dchmelik: oh, so you have evidence of a god, please, enlighten me [03:56] urthwrm, you have faith in evolution. [03:56] Ryzor (n=King@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:56] tell me a definition of one first, Reticenti [03:56] urthwrm, not in a spiritual sense, but by definition, you do. [03:56] an omnipotent being [03:56] tell me the definition of 'being.' [03:57] something with a conscieness [03:57] why consciousness? and if you really want, tell me its definition too, though I may have one [03:57] Reticenti, I think using the word entity would be more appropriate [03:57] w/e [03:57] People this is ##slackware ! [03:58] Although there's not much going on here atm, this is more a conversation for ##slackware-offtopic guys. [03:58] dchmelik: really? you havea definition of a consciousness? [03:58] yeah, you really should have started this discussion in ##slackware-offtopic [03:58] fire|bird, hush. :3 [03:58] Reticenti: dchmelik neconide /join ##slackware-offtopic [03:58] I am there [03:58] dchmelik: It may not have started there, but should really be moved there. [03:58] dchmelik: ;) [03:59] Reticenti, come to -offtopic with me! [03:59] init[1], stfu [03:59] neconide: can you help me out ? [03:59] Reticenti, use two #s [03:59] In the beginning...there was source and the source was good( double-checks the preferences)..yes,it was good and it compiled...:D [03:59] toofer-home (n=toofer@c-67-182-217-108.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:59] ##slackware-offtopic [03:59] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [03:59] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-65-228.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:00] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:02] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-186.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [04:02] can somebody help me with compiling libexo-0.5.1 [04:02] Axius_ (n=fim@92.82.65.236) left irc: Client Quit [04:02] e01: have you tried the slackbuild? [04:02] i can`t find slackbuild [04:02] Axius_ (n=fim@92.82.65.236) joined ##slackware. [04:03] http://slackbuilds.org/ [04:03] neconide: No, i don't have fauth. The evidence is there, i don't need to resort to ignorance [04:03] e01: why do you want to compile it? (isn't it already in slackware?) [04:03] diogenes323 (n=diogenes@adsl-99-141-121-246.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:03] because i want to try new Thunar [04:03] and it`s require libexo > 0.5 [04:03] urthwrm, either you're trolling or you have autism [04:03] in slackware it is 0.3 [04:04] e01: Slackware packages XFCE as 1 thing so you are looking for an xfce.SlackBuild [04:04] or wait til spring [04:05] would -current be of help here? [04:05] e01: ok, I wanted to be sure, I haven't tried it by myself but I've seen people try and fail to compile it, not saying you can't, I'm just warning you so you don't waste hours in case it doesn't work [04:05] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:05] for xfce 4.8 and/or a new Slackware version [04:05] Reticenti: it was released yesterday I think [04:05] e01, is thunar you're trying to compile the svn version? [04:05] yeah, but what about libexo Camarade_Tux ? [04:05] ahm.. not sure is it svn [04:06] because i get a tar from git respositories [04:06] and when try to start configure script [04:06] it end with [04:06] ./configure: line 27639: syntax error near unexpected token `GTK_DOC_EXTRA_CFLAGS,' [04:06] Channel flood from e01 -- kicking [04:06] ./configure: line 27639: `XDT_SUPPORTED_FLAGS(GTK_DOC_EXTRA_CFLAGS, -Wno-sign-compare)' [04:06] e01 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [04:06] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [04:06] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [04:07] i commented out the line with this XDT, but then it won`t start any compilations [04:07] in slackbuilds there is no libexo [04:07] breeze (i=kvirc@a88-112-145-70.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [04:07] e01: you shouldn't get a tar from the git repositories unless you're precisely at a commit labelled as *stable* [04:07] e01: xdt is xfce-dev-tools [04:07] troys (n=troys@h-68-165-100-2.dnvtco56.static.covad.net) joined ##slackware. [04:07] what is the gitweb link? [04:08] hello fire|bird and Camarade_Tux [04:08] http://git.xfce.org/xfce/exo/ [04:08] remember me? ;) [04:08] hi breeze [04:08] breeze: yes :) [04:08] chances are it'll need the newer gtk (and all that follows) as well [04:08] troys (n=troys@h-68-165-100-2.dnvtco56.static.covad.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:08] Axius (n=fim@92.82.65.236) left irc: "leaving" [04:08] i tried coming in again this morning as nutmeg... [04:08] we *really* need that newer gtk in slackware, it's been impeding me for months now =/ [04:09] turned out the nick was already in use :( [04:09] breeze: :P [04:09] breeze: but /j ##slackware-offtopic for off-topic discussions (even though we're in the middle of a religion troll) [04:10] ahh...sry, i didn't realize i was in the wrong room [04:10] my bad [04:10] buyez! [04:10] *byez! [04:10] breeze (i=kvirc@a88-112-145-70.elisa-laajakaista.fi) left ##slackware ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away"). [04:11] poor breeze... [04:11] lol [04:11] he is in offt. [04:11] he? she :P [04:12] o_O he is a she :o [04:13] Axius_ (n=fim@92.82.65.236) left irc: Client Quit [04:14] Axius (n=fim@92.82.65.236) joined ##slackware. [04:16] Action: MLanden starts humming Lou Reed's Walk On the Wild Side ...She says,Hey Babe...Take a walk on the wild side [04:18] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:20] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:21] simplex (n=simplex@twopenguins.it) left irc: Nick collision from services. [04:22] simplex (n=simplex@twopenguins.it) joined ##slackware. [04:24] hey, anyone use strongswan ? [04:26] fire|bird, thanks [04:26] with xfce-dev-tools now it compiled out [04:27] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [04:27] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [04:29] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.76.223) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:30] fire|bird, which wm/de are you using at the moment? 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And this is Windows partition loading by defalt [04:51] man lilo.conf [04:52] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-091-096-102-138.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: "this is who we are" [04:54] thanks! [04:54] XGizzmo: is this ok to set "default=/boot/vmlinuz" [04:54] XGizzmo: ? [04:54] no [04:55] default = Linux [04:55] XGizzmo: oh.. thank you [04:55] And don't forget to do a lilo -v when you are done. [04:56] XGizzmo: why "-v" ? [04:56] Why the -v lilo alone should do it ... and the default option should have a * next to it when lilo prints out it's little list [04:57] -v give you a little more info. [04:58] kozandr (n=kozandr@213.79.108.39) joined ##slackware. [04:59] thanks all! [05:00] Action: dfrank checking out new lilo.conf [05:00] dfrank (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) left irc: "leaving" [05:00] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:06] fxer_ (n=fxer@c-bd02e255.165-500-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [05:06] Nick change: neconide -> Wikipedia` [05:07] rignes_ (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) joined ##slackware. [05:07] Nick change: Wikipedia` -> neconide [05:07] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [05:08] matu (n=matu@client80-83-41-118.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:09] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [05:12] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-183-134.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [05:13] Hoogin (n=hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [05:16] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-7-249.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [05:16] hi there [05:16] Mornin',metrofox [05:17] hi MLanden :) [05:18] Axius (n=fim@92.82.65.236) left irc: "Reconnecting" [05:18] Axius (n=fim@92.82.65.236) joined ##slackware. [05:18] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:19] Axius (n=fim@92.82.65.236) left irc: Client Quit [05:20] dfrank (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) joined ##slackware. [05:23] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.43) joined ##slackware. [05:23] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-186.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [05:26] hi [05:27] @m@ hi,oobe [05:27] @m@ [05:28] lol....couldn't resist [05:29] Axius (n=gi@92.82.65.236) joined ##slackware. [05:30] fxer_ (n=fxer@c-bd02e255.165-500-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:32] i dont knot what @m@ means anyway [05:35] sorry...no offence,was referring to oobi http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350245554858&rvr_id=&crlp=1_263602_263622&UA=L*F%3F&GUID=17ccb8bb1260a0e201b49ca4ff53e1e4&itemid=350245554858&ff4=263602_263622 [05:38] Shuren (n=Devilman@host70-223-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Sto andando via" [05:39] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@83.225.76.1) joined ##slackware. [05:39] what is the cdburner application in xfce? [05:39] Axius (n=gi@92.82.65.236) left irc: Client Quit [05:39] Axius (n=gi@92.82.65.236) joined ##slackware. [05:40] xfburn? [05:40] Axius (n=gi@92.82.65.236) left irc: Client Quit [05:41] Axius (n=gi@92.82.65.236) joined ##slackware. [05:41] MLanden, thnx [05:42] kleanchap, np [05:43] Shuren (n=Devilman@host70-223-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:47] paissad-acer (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:47] where is the qt4 dir in slackware [05:48] esteeven (n=esteeven@82-32-107-213.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:48] oobe: for root it's somewhere in /usr/share [05:49] paissad-acer (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Client Quit [05:49] paissad (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:49] paissad (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:50] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [05:50] greetings [05:51] heya,The-Croupier [05:51] hows it going guys? [05:51] how are you MLanden [05:51] Fine thanks The-Croupier and yourself? [05:51] IceChant (n=icechant@94.159.224.163) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:52] IceChant (n=icechant@94.159.224.163) joined ##slackware. [05:52] not bad not bad... ;) lots of reading all the time ;) dont know if it ever stops ;) [05:52] how was the new years for you? [05:52] Cold but goin' good [05:52] did you get any holidays? [05:53] i see, cold is not necessary bad ;) [05:53] yeah,good quiet and peaceful with family [05:55] same here... they are the best holidays ;) [05:56] sometimes that " no news is good news" is the best these days ;) especially for administrators ;) [05:56] Specially the seasonal food [05:56] True [05:59] what's the difference between xterm, Konsole, Terminal?. Which should be used? [06:00] neogooglian, your choice [06:01] Axius (n=gi@92.82.65.236) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:01] neogooglian, what is the difference between konqueror and firefox which should be used? [06:02] firefox is certainly more popular and has more things like extensions. So I would use it. [06:02] it was a rhetorical question [06:02] :) [06:02] Batch (n=f@d122-104-175-157.rdl19.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:02] WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF SLACKWARE BROKE WINDOWS [06:02] PIECE SHIT [06:02] TOOOOO MANY COMANDS [06:03] U PIECE SHIT DEVELOPERS [06:03] MAKE NEW SOFTWAREZ [06:03] ALL DATA GONE [06:03] Batch What went wrong? [06:04] PIECE SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT BROKE WINDOWS [06:04] THATS WRONG [06:04] Batch why are you shouting? [06:04] WINDOWS BLUE SCREEN WITH ERRORSSSSSSSSSSS [06:04] NOT SHOUT [06:04] FAGMOM [06:04] WHAT IS SHOUT IN VIRTUAL WORLD? [06:04] Batch, behaving like an animal that needs to be put down won get your windows back or any sympathy or help [06:05] Shout = ALLCAPS [06:05] HOW CAN SHOUT IN VIRTUAL SPACE [06:05] especially considering your experiencing a pebkac issue [06:05] pebkac? [06:05] what is thisssssssssss [06:05] try pressing your caps lock key [06:05] THANKS ALOT EASY TO TYPE NOW [06:05] problem exists between keyboard and chair [06:05] MY PENISSSSSSSSSS? [06:05] Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Computer [06:05] OH [06:06] esteeven (n=esteeven@82-32-107-213.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:06] nice one wobbles [06:06] MY HANDDD [06:06] LOOK [06:06] oobe: erm, fail [06:06] PIECE SHIIT OPERATOR [06:06] BROKE WINDOWS [06:06] BLUE SCREEN [06:06] LOTS OR ERROR [06:06] Nick change: tavl_ -> tavl [06:06] One kick coming straight up i guess. [06:06] WHY? [06:06] WHY KICK [06:06] YOU PLAYING FOOTBAL? [06:07] LOL [06:07] PLS HELP FIX ERROR [06:07] cause you are less intellegent than vermon [06:07] NO PLAY FOOTBAL [06:07] BLUE SCREEN OF DEATHS [06:07] stop shouting [06:07] IM NOT TALKING BRO [06:07] TYPING [06:07] OKAY? [06:08] WHY SHOUT AT SCREEN? [06:08] dont use caps [06:08] Troll [06:08] thats what he means [06:08] Batch: If you wnt some help, stop ranting and explain in simple terms what your problem is. You are shouting by using all caps [06:08] i have blue screen [06:08] becoz of slackware [06:08] i install [06:08] ok [06:08] and BAM [06:08] no windows [06:08] all data psssh! [06:09] how do you boot windows using lilo ? [06:09] no i tried custom [06:09] called SupLiLO [06:09] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-186.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [06:09] made by local turkish hacker [06:09] hes reallly good [06:09] Insert your Windows Boot CD and it'll replace the bootloader. [06:09] oh, good [06:09] well i hope he writes good docs [06:09] i boot from usb [06:10] too big for cd [06:10] cd here only 100mb [06:10] You have Turkish hackers in Brisneyland? [06:10] i use proxy on website [06:10] cant access [06:10] from here [06:10] this is funny [06:10] you make me laugh Mr. Batch [06:10] why [06:11] why laugh at me? [06:11] twanny796 (n=root@195.158.126.148) joined ##slackware. [06:11] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [06:11] twanny796 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [06:11] cause your communication skills and interpretation of reality are severely flawed which makes for some funny reading [06:12] well im on bush [06:12] not [06:12] oke? [06:12] is slackboy actually a person? [06:12] Action: pprkut is looking for a camera. There's got to be one.... [06:12] no he is a botty [06:13] Anyone running LXDE on slackware? [06:13] Does that mean no one can log in #slackware as root? [06:13] Delahunt (n=robert@fe219-115.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [06:13] kleanchap, i've got it installed on my laptop with slackware 13 [06:14] MLanden, How did you install it? Is it thru sbopkg or slaptget? [06:14] lundis (n=lundis@79-133-9-108.bredband.aland.net) joined ##slackware. [06:15] used alienbob's build scripts [06:15] Where can I find it? [06:15] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-186.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [06:16] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/lxde/ [06:16] MLanden, thnx [06:16] LOOK [06:16] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [06:16] HTTP://GOOGLE.COM [06:16] FIND BSOD [06:17] SLACKWARE CAUSE [06:17] IT [06:17] is alien a slack dev? [06:17] FUCK CUNT SLACKWARE [06:18] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:18] kleanchap, it give a good template to start from...some of the packages can be updated from lxde from there through trial and error [06:18] Damn, never an op when one is needed :-) [06:18] FUCK OP FIX PROBLEM [06:19] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [06:19] batch: bad case of foulmouth? [06:20] NIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGER MARDER [06:20] FIX PROBLEM [06:20] BAD MAN [06:20] alienBOB: ping [06:21] lundis (n=lundis@79-133-9-108.bredband.aland.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [06:23] dErFz (n=derf@unaffiliated/derfz) left irc: "sleep" [06:23] Batch, your trolling is weak, welcome to ignore [06:23] :-) [06:24] i think he is just trolling [06:24] TROLL? [06:24] he is mirc [06:24] II HAVE A PROBLEM [06:24] NOT TROL [06:24] which means windows already works [06:24] Faggot. [06:24] yes he has a problem... :-) [06:24] Batch: if you prefer insulting, loudmouth, petulant, screaming insane idiot, we can go with that [06:25] OK [06:25] FAGGOT [06:25] NIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGER [06:25] SHIT [06:25] To your standard? [06:25] alienBOB, ban him now [06:25] !ops [06:25] mmm forgot that didnt work here [06:25] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.78.99.110) joined ##slackware. [06:25] is it xorgconfig or xorgsetup? Which of them comes first? [06:25] he is mirc [06:25] Batch (n=f@d122-104-175-157.rdl19.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Excess Flood [06:26] Batch (n=f@d122-104-175-157.rdl19.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:26] Cool. [06:26] jhw (n=jhw@p5B3E6621.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:27] heh, hes on multiple channels.. [06:28] good, the sooner he'll get k-lined [06:28] MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS v [06:28] MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS v [06:28] MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS v [06:28] alienBOB: batch banned on offtopic [06:28] yep, coming up now [06:28] MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MUL [06:28] Last message repeated 4 time(s). [06:28] my god [06:28] MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MUL [06:29] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [06:29] Batch (n=f@d122-104-175-157.rdl19.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Excess Flood [06:29] Batch (n=f@d122-104-175-157.rdl19.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:29] MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS v [06:29] what was the systemwide ops command under irssi? [06:29] Tabmow (i=terry@freenode/staff/tabmow) joined ##slackware. [06:29] --> oops i mean on freenode [06:29] MarderIII: just go to #freenode [06:30] Thanks [06:30] or #staff, I think [06:30] Hey. [06:30] Why do you flood MarderIII? 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[06:30] Batch: I would like to amend my original description with "suicidal" [06:30] MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MULTIPLE CHANNELS MUL [06:30] AWESOME. 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[06:31] ahh the quiet [06:31] yes [06:31] :( doesnt understand still .... :( [06:32] why would people like to get banned from places...:( [06:32] and be sooo much annoying...:( [06:32] i somtimes do it in channels that dont affect me [06:32] i dont actually spam flood [06:32] The-Croupier, What does one get when you let wine turn to vinegar? a bad batch..:) [06:33] i just like to ask really silly questions [06:33] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:34] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [06:34] On my eeepc I have Slackware current. When I do lsmod, I do see the ethernet and wlan drivers loaded but ifconfig shows only lo. [06:34] Nick change: ga_bash -> free_fox [06:35] What steps am I missing? [06:35] have you configured those interfaces or used dhcpcd on them? [06:35] kleanchap: you need to ifconfig eth0 up [06:36] and see: ifconfig -s [06:36] kleanchap: wlan may be a problem. proprietary drivers... :-( [06:36] kleanchap, ifconfig eth0 up [06:36] I tried that and got ERRO while getting interface flags: No such device [06:36] or wlan0 ath0 etc. [06:36] kleanchap: ifconfig -a will show you all interfaces you have available [06:37] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.19.200) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:38] kleanchap: you network interface may not be named "wlan0": ifconfig -s, or ifconfig -a, will give you the name [06:38] I see the wlan0 which is atleast comforting. Why not the eth0? I am plugged into the wired network right now. [06:38] s [06:38] kloeri (i=kloeri@freenode/staff/exherbo.kloeri) joined ##slackware. [06:38] kleanchap: wrong driver? [06:39] kleanchap, which asus eee do you have? [06:39] kleanchap: does lspci show the hardware? [06:39] kleanchap: s/hardware/ethernet card/ [06:39] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:40] I don't think so. This is eeepc 1005HA. It hast Artheros AR9285 for wlan0 and Atheros AR8132 for eth0 [06:40] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.92.112.140) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:40] It does not list the ar8132 [06:41] lspci does list AR9285 for the wlan0 [06:41] Hmmmm..... [06:41] lspci, yes, but lsmod? [06:41] kleanchap: hint.. under ubuntu (eeebuntu) they have solved this problem. Maybe hop over to #ubuntu at a later time? [06:42] xumpi (n=xumpi@a95-93-83-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Operation timed out [06:43] No Ubuntu or Debian for me. :-| [06:43] hmm. A slackware user asking for help in #ubuntu. What obscene thought :P [06:43] hehe :P [06:43] lsmod does list the eth0 driver which is atl1c in the memory. [06:43] I really don't know which driver these cards need [06:43] kleanchap: :-) didnt say you have to install it just figure out how they solved it. ;-) [06:44] kleanchap: can you pastebin the output of lspci and of dmesg? [06:44] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [06:44] I tried Debian the only thing that came out of it was I know what drivers are needed for this system. [06:44] kleanchap, here's someone who went though the steps of updating the driver with slackware 13 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/atheros-ar-8132-on-my-acer-aspire-one-d250-749646/ [06:45] Camarade_Tux, I cannot, I don't have a network connection for that netbook. ;-) [06:45] goarilla_ (n=goarilla@151.242-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [06:46] kleanchap: just to be sure: which interfaces does ifconfig -a list? [06:46] kleanchap: radical thought.. maybe copy it to an usbstick, and use an other computer? [06:47] Camarade_Tux, It lists lo and wlan0 [06:47] kleanchap: is wlan0 working? if you run "iwlist s" as root, what do you get? [06:47] MarderIII, This is a netbook, has only 2 usb ports and they are occupied. :-)) [06:47] errr, first: issue: ifconfig wlan0 up [06:48] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [06:48] Action: kleanchap hates netbooks. Don't know why I bought one. Can't read anything on it. [06:48] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [06:48] hello! [06:48] Mornin',godling [06:49] kleanchap: only 2? did they drop one going from the 900 series to 1000? [06:49] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:49] When I tried ifconfig, I got Unknown error 132 [06:50] kleanchap: run: dmesg | tail, what do you get? [06:50] MLanden, I will try the solution from the URL you gave. [06:51] kleanchap, good luck...hopefully,it's not too problematic [06:54] native tool in slack-12.2 to unrar or do i need to go get rar/unrar? [06:54] you need unrar [06:54] you need unrar [06:55] yup,unrar [06:55] sold [06:55] gooooooogling now [06:55] slackbuilds.org [06:56] already on it [06:56] goarilla (n=goarilla@169.92-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:56] hey youre a crazy bitch but you search so good im on top of it [06:56] Nick change: I_AM_PEBKAC -> dtanner [06:56] hmm my power went out [06:57] o.O [06:57] Delahunt: UPS? [06:57] laptop 8-) [06:57] Action: Delahunt has to search in the dark in his new home for the power breaker [06:59] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:00] kleanchap, http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=681580 here's a bit of extra reading that might help [07:03] fixed it, though not sure of the cause [07:04] urban3 (n=urban@c-94-255-165-174.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:04] Nick change: goarilla_ -> goarilla [07:06] urthwrm (n=urthwrm@unaffiliated/urthwrm) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:07] wobbles (n=huntsman@C-59-101-191-58.mel.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [07:07] urban (n=urban@c-94-255-165-174.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [07:08] Nick change: urban -> Guest24717 [07:09] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn47.78-99-109.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. 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Is modprobe smart enough to figure out the hardware and load the appropriate modules? [08:48] in most cases, yes. [08:49] exceptions being stuff that doesnt (obviously) and stuff that needs specific options for the module [08:49] kleanchap: modprobe is not 'smart enough' to load modules based on what hardware you have. it loads ones based on dependency info [08:49] now, whatever executes modprobe is often smart enough, such as udev [08:50] test34- (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:53] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [08:54] kleanchap: take a look at /etc/rc.d/rc.modules [08:55] morning geeks [08:55] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [08:56] afternoon dtanner [08:56] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) left irc: [08:56] :-) [08:57] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.96.23.0) joined ##slackware. [08:59] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [09:00] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:01] dear All! Does anybody here using fluxbox? [09:02] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:04] xumpi (n=xumpi@a95-93-83-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Success [09:05] xumpi (n=xumpi@a95-93-83-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:05] crazy-mind (n=crazy-mi@115.75.16.190) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:06] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:06] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [09:06] 2 [09:07] oops wrong window :-) [09:07] dfrank: i used to, whats up [09:10] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [09:11] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-7-249.33-151.iol.it) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [09:12] cacao74 (n=cacao74@host-62-10-43-75.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [09:13] OpenSysHTC (n=vs@188.140.110.134) joined ##slackware. [09:15] testing [09:15] Lag: 225 (??) [09:15] [Lag: 245 (??)] [09:15] Channel flood from Pig_Pen -- kicking [09:15] [Lag: 260 (??)] [09:15] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:15] thats a big lag [09:15] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [09:18] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: "Leaving" [09:27] I will say one thing about Eeepc. Not only they are small and ugly, they are fU&E#$&* to configure!!! [09:28] Never had problem installing Linux (Slackware especially) on a system. [09:28] kleanchap: says you. my eeepc is perfect for me, and slackware works with no problems. [09:29] +1 [09:29] spook, What model do you have? [09:29] kleanchap: 901 [09:30] I am using 1005HA. Those B&#$%^'s have made it so difficult to have wlan or wired lan working on most distrubutions. [09:30] Action: kleanchap is frustrated and venting. [09:31] there is no reason to swear. [09:31] Atleast I know you guys(and gals) will put up with me. ;-) [09:31] I friend is using this model and had no problems. o_0 [09:32] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-186.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [09:32] lmao2k (n=nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:32] slackfan, which model are you talking about? Do you have any links from them? [09:33] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-186.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:33] I own a 901 too and he owns a 1005HA. I only know he was not crying after installing Slack, so I don't think it is to difficult to configure. :) [09:34] slackfan, what version of Slackware did you use on 1005HA? [09:34] 13.0 [09:35] Is it the current or 13.0 from the release? [09:35] as i know 13.0 with kernel from testing. [09:35] If you say either of them, I will you say your lying. [09:35] -_- [09:36] kleanchap: i was using 13.0 but installed -current recently [09:37] I am sure you did and it worked straight out of the box. [09:37] yes, in both cases. [09:37] didn't used to be as easy though, back with 12.1 it was a pain in the arse. [09:38] I believe you. [09:39] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.75.221) joined ##slackware. [09:39] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:44] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:45] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [09:47] esteeven (n=esteeven@82-32-107-213.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:48] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC3123B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [09:49] panzer (n=panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:53] I made a backup of my hard drive using dd. That disk had 2 partitions. Where the first had Windows installed on it and the second SlackWare. Then I installed these images on another pc, but in the reverse order (Windows on the second partition and SW on the first). Now my Windows does not boot. Anyone knows what's the problem? [09:53] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:54] panzer (n=panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) joined ##slackware. [09:54] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [09:54] yes [09:54] you cannot alter the location of the windows bootblock [09:54] it must be on the first bootable drive [09:55] substancev (n=substanc@pool-71-187-71-242.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:56] adaptr: any chances i could alter boot.ini and got it working again? [09:56] hey guys.. My slacktop HDD is slow dying out.. what would be the proper way to transfer this linux installation from one hard drive to another. I just want the linux partition not the whole drive tranfered. source drive = 250GB target drive=60GB.. [09:57] tediosu: no, you need to restore the bootblock to the first bootable harddrive for windows to be able to boot. the NTLDR bootloader lives there [09:57] tediosu: it's not trivial after windows was installed elsewhere. [09:58] http://pastebin.com/m5053f9d9 this is my partition list.... [10:00] Karu_ (n=alch@78-28-75-140.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [10:00] adaptr: but i have set the second partition as active [10:00] tediosu: that's irrelevant [10:02] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [10:05] substance, how much space is the linux part on the source drive? how much of that is actually used? how big a part do you wanna make on the target drive? [10:05] OpenSysHTC (n=vs@188.140.110.134) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:08] OpenSysHTC (n=vs@188.140.15.111) joined ##slackware. [10:08] adaptr: that's constraint that you're talking about... i think it only applies installing windows on logical partitions, doesn't it? [10:08] ok i see it is about 16G. there are many ways to do what you want to do....dd, tar, partimage, etc. [10:08] xumpi (n=xumpi@a95-93-83-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:08] mancha: i made the partitions identical... 20GB root partition on 250GB drive and i just created a 20GB partition (primary) on the source drive.. also a 4GB swap. and the rest unallocated. [10:09] mancha: i assume i some how get a 1:1 copy over and then run lilo on the device right? [10:09] panzer (n=panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:09] oh you can do a bit-for-bit copy with dd and then change lilo and fstab [10:09] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:09] tediosu:wherever you installed windows, the boot loader was installed on the first bootable partition. [10:09] xumpi (n=xumpi@a95-93-83-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:10] dd if=/dev/source of=/dev/target [10:10] ok let me try.. thanks. [10:11] does slackware have a built-in package manager menu-thingy a la sbopkg ? [10:11] adaptr: you can install slackpkg [10:12] I have it, it's not a menu-thingy [10:12] menu-thingy... you want like a Synaptic Package Manager like noobuntu? [10:12] i don't think they have one :\ [10:12] no... I want something that makes installing packages easier, like sbopkg [10:13] i could be terribly wrong [10:13] sbopkg.. [10:13] you probably should use a live cd since the partition will be changing if it is mounted live [10:13] hey if i a do a dd if=/dev/sda6 it shouldn't use the machine right... cause of new data [10:13] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.96.23.0) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:14] mancha... :) [10:14] yup [10:14] i was afraid of that.. [10:14] i need a small fast linux distro to put on a usb stick [10:14] dsl [10:15] puppy [10:15] feather [10:15] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: Client Quit [10:16] panzer (n=panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) joined ##slackware. [10:17] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:18] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [10:18] Karu (n=alch@78-28-105-165.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:19] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [10:19] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.88.99) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:19] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.88.99) joined ##slackware. [10:20] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:21] OpenSysHTC (n=vs@188.140.15.111) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:22] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [10:26] is it just me? or is freenode netsplitting like crazy today? [10:27] its just me... i knew it! freenode hates me! [10:28] Pig_Pen: just you :) [10:28] hello. I've stupidly deleted my /usr/share/fonts/TTF directory (don't ask!!!! :( ) : how can I reinstall all of the fonts easily? [10:28] Razec (i=1000@187-27-244-57.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:28] Axius (n=gi@92.82.93.193) joined ##slackware. [10:29] grep "usr/share/fonts/TTF" /var/log/packages/* should give you a list [10:29] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [10:29] download all of the fonts packages from /x and run installpkg ./*txz [10:29] get the list from the grep, and "upgradepkg --reinstall" on them [10:29] or pull them off the CD/DVD out of /x [10:30] thrice`, Pig_Pen thanks. will try that later. [10:30] substancev (n=substanc@pool-71-187-71-242.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:30] you'll prolly need to reinstall 9 or 10 base slack packages and more if you installed your own ttf's on top of that [10:32] but i assume as a good admin you have backups so just cp over the TTF dir from your backup [10:32] dang internet! [10:32] mancha, not this time. :) [10:33] why would one back up /usr/share/fonts? o_O [10:33] because one has added new fonts not part of the base package :) [10:34] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [10:34] alisonken1home, not true. This is a fresh install and I was clumsy [10:34] Action: thrice` suspected so :> [10:34] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:34] slackfan (n=slackfan@dslb-092-073-099-006.pools.arcor-ip.net) left ##slackware. [10:34] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [10:35] I was commenting on thrice` wondering about backing up /usr/share/fonts :) [10:35] alisonken1home, fair point then [10:37] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:38] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [10:39] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [10:40] toodiesel (n=toodiese@cpe-075-181-168-173.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:40] how do i change to single user mode without rebooting? [10:40] liberation fonts ? [10:40] "telinit 1" [10:40] telinit [10:40] (if possible) and how would i get back to multi-user? [10:41] telinit 3 [10:41] thrice` thanks [10:41] macha thanks [10:41] Axius_ (n=gi@92.82.65.236) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:41] goarilla thanks [10:41] toodiesel (n=toodiese@cpe-075-181-168-173.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [10:41] Axius_ (n=gi@92.82.93.193) joined ##slackware. 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[10:46] http://pastebin.com/d7c77d743 all the fonts i have in /usr/share/fonts/TTF/ [10:46] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: Client Quit [10:46] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:46] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [10:47] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.230.168) joined ##slackware. [10:47] ls [10:47] esteeven (n=esteeven@82-32-107-213.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [10:48] what a broken mess, bbl when irc is working properly [10:48] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Client Quit [10:50] jailbox (n=laj2@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: "Leaving" [10:51] kukukk (n=dvorak@188.24.67.73) joined ##slackware. [10:51] kukukkk (n=dvorak@188.24.66.172) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:53] Emeaudroide (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-65-228.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:53] substancev (n=substanc@pool-71-187-71-242.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:53] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:54] mancha: hey i did the dd from a live disk.. so now i have a 1:1 copy of my linux partion on an external HDD.. now how do i install lilo to make it boot? [10:54] lilo /dev/sdb ? [10:55] follow the instructions in the pxe and usb boot directory on the install cd/dvd [10:55] Ech (n=Me@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [10:55] alisonken1home: was that directed to me? [10:55] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.46.44) joined ##slackware. [10:56] :) [10:56] dfrank (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) joined ##slackware. [10:57] alisonken1home: if so.. doesn't make sense to me.. anyways i figured it out using man pages... [10:57] there's a directory with instructions for making a pxe boot setup and a usb thumbdrive setup. although specific for booting into a setup environment, it shouldn't be too hard to follow how to do it for your coyp [10:57] cpy [10:57] hello All. Where should i set up nameservers? [10:57] pieta (n=oli@86.127.238.96) joined ##slackware. [10:57] im going to try a boot. [10:57] good luck [10:58] alisonken1home: what usb thumbdrive setup are you talking about.. pxe? ... i am on slackware ... just needed to make a 1:1 copy of my installation to another drive . [10:58] anyways lets see if it was successful brb [10:58] "ping irc.freenode.net" returns "unknown host", but "ping 130.239.18.172" works [10:58] substancev (n=substanc@pool-71-187-71-242.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:58] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@94.159.224.163) joined ##slackware. [10:59] hey, anyone use strongswan ? [11:00] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-65-228.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:00] dfrank, you're using dhcp? [11:00] IceChant (n=icechant@94.159.224.163) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:00] nachox: no [11:00] Nick change: Ech -> ech [11:00] then in /etc/resolv.conf [11:00] read it's man page to learn the correct way to do it [11:01] :< [11:01] Axius_ (n=gi@92.82.93.193) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:01] Axius (n=gi@92.85.212.228) joined ##slackware. [11:02] nachox: oops, it is empty. Should i just type IP in it? [11:02] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:02] nachox: or what syntax? [11:02] read the manual page, type man resolv.conf [11:03] nachox: well, i just read your post about man page. Great thanks, i will! [11:03] Action: dfrank bows nachox [11:03] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.75.221) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:06] nachox: yeahooo!! i got it:) thanks again [11:07] no problem [11:07] Raa (n=oli@86.127.238.96) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:07] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:12] esteeven (n=esteeven@82-32-107-213.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:13] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.17) joined ##slackware. [11:13] Axius_ (n=gi@92.82.82.241) joined ##slackware. [11:14] lmao2k (n=nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [11:14] Axius (n=gi@92.85.212.228) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:14] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:14] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [11:16] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [11:17] babbo (n=nnscript@93-34-48-84.ip48.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [11:21] Axius (n=gi@92.85.218.23) joined ##slackware. [11:22] dfrank (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) left irc: "leaving" [11:24] substancev (i=47bb47f2@gateway/web/freenode/x-jctgqdcinlhunkdi) joined ##slackware. [11:24] hey guys... [11:24] mancha: i get No boot signature in partition. [11:24] kozandr (n=kozandr@213.79.108.39) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:26] you get that when? [11:27] at boot... [11:27] i changed fstab to point to new root. [11:27] i did the lilo -A on the device then a lilo -M [11:27] should work.. its active boot. [11:28] my root should't be active boot right? [11:28] i don't get your lingo [11:28] maybe my table isn't right [11:28] what does the lilo.conf file look like? [11:28] sorry.. let me check [11:31] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC3123B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [11:32] Axius_ (n=gi@92.82.82.241) left irc: Connection timed out [11:33] john_dee (n=id@95-29-145-188.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:33] i made changes to match that of my new HD [11:34] i think its my partition table is setup incorrectly.. i can't dump fdisk to pastebin since i don't have my internet set up on my live disc [11:34] i think im going to try installing slackware but just setup the drive.. then dd that i need over [11:34] what's fdisk -l show? [11:37] mancha: sorry i can't provide that info.. however i can show you my source drive i want to clone to a smaller drive ... http://pastebin.com/m5053f9d9 [11:38] adamk_ (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [11:38] maybe you can help me move it to a blank 60GB.. [11:39] in a nutshell, partition the target using fdisk or other o that your slack part is the size as on the source.then dd it over and write to the targets mbr appropriately [11:40] don't forget to mark the partition as bootable [11:40] that's not needed [11:40] bootable is only needed for microsoft products [11:40] however, it's a good reminder to yourself as to which partitions are boot and which ones are data [11:41] Plasmius (i=Plasmius@unaffiliated/plasmastar/bot/plasmius) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:44] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Client Quit [11:46] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [11:47] alisonken1home, not really, bootable is something required by the bios [11:47] Karu_ (n=alch@78-28-75-140.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left ##slackware. [11:48] zounds (n=zounds@81-229-93-131-no68.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. 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[12:14] I'm coping :) [12:14] adaptr: using slackpkg and sbopkg? [12:14] I have sound in youtube but not in mplayer.. how weird is that [12:15] adaptr: what groups are you part of? [12:15] well, only sbopkg up to now [12:15] users wheel audio video plugdev [12:17] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [12:17] that's fine. Checked alsamixer? Unmuted everything, and raised the volume? [12:17] yes, it is working in youtube, innit ? [12:17] so I *have* audio [12:17] youtube uses some oss, no? [12:17] just not.. anwywhere else [12:17] multiple soundcards? [12:17] thumbs: youtube doesn't use anything, it's a browser [12:17] drat! [12:18] I meant thrice` [12:18] adaptr: wait. [12:18] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [12:18] adaptr, no, obviously it needs to broadcast sound through something [12:18] adaptr: the alsa driver also provides a legacy OSS interface. [12:18] the issue is what the flash plugin is using of course. do't be so literal since it makes you seem foolish [12:18] Flash usually uses alsa, I believe. [12:18] obviously I was talking about flash within firefox [12:19] flash defaults to the primary alsa sound card [12:19] I tell the system (KDE) to use alsa; that's pretty much the extent of my influence [12:19] we should specify adobe's flashplayer? [12:20] adaptr: re-run alsaconf? [12:20] is therea socket or pipe I can check to see what the flash plugin is using to output sound ? [12:20] adaptr: lsof, probably. [12:20] I'll try that [12:21] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-120-238.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:21] Iooo [12:21] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-120-238.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [12:22] Scuzz (n=scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "leaving" [12:22] it's using my literal sound device - /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p [12:22] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-120-238.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:22] so it's apparently bypassing ALSA altogether [12:22] Shuren (n=Devilman@host70-223-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Sto andando via" [12:23] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:23] adaptr: aha! [12:23] which indicates that alsa isn't using that device [12:23] I suspect the KDE configurator [12:23] adaptr: re-run alsaconf [12:23] okay [12:24] kukukk (n=dvorak@188.24.67.73) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:24] Shuren (n=Devilman@host70-223-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:24] adaptr: the command-line mplayer will use the alsa driver by default, provided the kernel modules are loaded. Check lsmod [12:24] hersonls_ (n=hersonls@187.40.75.221) left irc: Client Quit [12:25] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:25] hersonls_ (n=hersonls@187.40.75.221) joined ##slackware. [12:25] I use smplayer [12:25] hersonls_ (n=hersonls@187.40.75.221) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:25] everything evetually calls the cmdline mplayer, of course [12:25] smplayer is nice [12:25] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:25] adaptr: well, that's for testing purposes, obviously. [12:25] heh [12:25] mancha: should a drive look like.... /dev/sda: /dev/sda1 (ext3, bootable, /) /dev/sda5 (swap) should there be a space for boot? [12:25] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-428305.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [12:26] let me state what im trying to do.. I got this HDD that is 250 gives.. the linux partition is 20 GB.. i want to transfer this to a new 60GB HDD... how to i properly do this [12:26] gives = = gigs [12:27] Agiofws (n=nAgiofws@athedsl-428305.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:27] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [12:27] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:28] dd it over if there is nothing on the new 60 gig drive to lose [12:28] Hello [12:29] i did that... http://pastebin.com/m5053f9d9 this pastebin has my 250GB partitiontable [12:29] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.68.181.118) joined ##slackware. [12:29] you dont dd the whole 250 gig drive because it wont fit on a 60 gig drive, just do the Linux partitions [12:29] so after i did a dd if=/dev/sda6 of=/dev/sdb1 ... i did a lilo -A /dev/sdb1 [12:30] then lilo -M /dev/sdb [12:30] no! [12:30] thumbs: thanks, I chose bare alsa in smplayer and it's working now [12:30] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.92.112.132) joined ##slackware. [12:30] Nick change: Ignacio__ -> nachox [12:30] ok Pig_Pen... what should be the proper way [12:30] i would need to see the exact layout of the partitions on the drive you want to copy over [12:31] http://pastebin.com/m5053f9d9 is the source drive [12:31] adaptr: awesome. [12:31] you cant just run lilo and expect it to boot without a problem, the fstab would have to be edited to show the new partition layout [12:31] thumbs: I did run alasconf originally, and I thought I had tried every possible choice in the mplayer config... ah well [12:31] target drive can be whiped out to accomodate [12:31] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0FDC1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:31] Pig_Pen: i did edit lilo.conf and fstab [12:32] i get No boot signature on drive [12:32] or something similar [12:32] adaptr: on to the next tweak? [12:32] thumbs: sure :) [12:32] have you set the boot flag on the sdb1 on the 60 gig drive? [12:32] fdisk gives me a * on that partition [12:32] sdb1 is also root [12:32] "/ [12:33] substancev: "bootable" per the IDE spec does not mean that's actually bootable by an OS bootloader. [12:33] lets say my 60GB... i should have a / partition for linux... and a swap [12:33] hmm, still haveing problems? i have not seen where yet, let me think about what you did [12:33] i am wondering is my flash drive die or not [12:34] thats it right... no other partition needed for MBR or anything like that right? [12:34] just i pluged in USB, and it`s not mounted [12:34] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:34] i try with cfdisk /dev/sda and.. FATAL ERROR: Cannot open drive disk [12:35] dd if=/dev/sda6 of=/dev/sdb1 should do it, and you fixed up fstab and lilo.conf and set the mbr on sdb1 as bootable, pastebin your lilo.conf [12:35] e01: as root [12:35] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [12:36] Pig_Pen: im going to do this again...need to install HDD into laptop brb [12:36] Pig_Pen, there is no sdb1 [12:36] substancev: where do you want lilo installed? the MBR of sda or sdb? [12:36] and... there is no sda1, only /dev/sda [12:36] e01: he is talking to me... [12:36] oh.. sorry :) [12:36] he removbed the drive and now only has the 60 gig drive as sda now? [12:36] e01: try tailing the /var/log/messages and then plug in your usb... it should give you info you need [12:37] pastebin your lilo.conf substancev [12:37] Pig_Pen: currently my 60GB is in my laptop... trying to boot it.. i have puppy live running so i can see my drives [12:37] you have two drives in a laptop? [12:38] Pig_Pen: i need to plug in the big drive it has my wireless configs... and the other drive is via sata->usb [12:38] is that 250 gig drive a usb drive? [12:38] ah i see [12:38] Pig_Pen: currently 60GB is internal.. 250 via usb. i will swap so that i have internet.. [12:38] but i need the live disk to dd properly [12:38] i gotta see your lilo.conf i bet that is what is wrong, so far it seems you did everything else good [12:39] substancev, it seems to be okay, http://nopaste.gamedev.pl/?id=5694 [12:39] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:40] sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/tmp [12:41] e01: you might wanna hit the tab button after /dev/sda ... might be /dev/sda1 [12:41] as i said before, there is no sda1, just only sda [12:41] wich is really strange [12:42] then you need to partition it.. [12:42] try fdisk /dev/sda [12:42] then type p or print [12:42] Unable to open /dev/sda *ROFL* [12:42] zerafuze (n=zerafuze@bas1-barrie18-1242377431.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: No route to host [12:43] so the 60 gig internal drive should be /dev/sda then lilo.conf should loot sort of like this http://pastebin.com/d1e843cf3 [12:43] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.29.42) joined ##slackware. [12:44] in less than 6 months using life, this flash drive may be die... :( [12:44] others my living about 1year, but this ... [12:44] kingston sux [12:45] ah, i see something big wrong, since the 60 gig drive is internal wont that make it /dev/sda ? and the big USB drive /dev/sdb ? then your dd command was wrong [12:45] has anyone else had problems rebuilding mplayer? this is what i get, http://pastebin.com/m73256760 [12:45] Pig_Pen: initially 250 was internal.. i wanna put it on a 60GB.. since there is no secondary sata slot i use a usb adapter.. [12:46] so at some point it goes from sdb1 to sda1 [12:46] Jimmen (n=Devilman@host70-223-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:46] mkdir /tmp/build/package-MPlayer/usr/share/mplayer/skins and try again manwichmakeameal [12:47] i tried putting that in the script right before the cd command and it still failed [12:48] not the partition, the device node, even if the internal 60 gig drive has no partitions and you booted with an external source (either live CD or live USB distro) the internal drive is what the BIOS will nail down first making it /dev/sda [12:48] i will paste bin my 60GB now. [12:49] manwichmakemeal: try this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/mplayer.slackbuild-cant-compile.-757310/ [12:49] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-120-238.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:49] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-73-140.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:50] Shuren (n=Devilman@host70-223-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:50] Nick change: Jimmen -> Shuren [12:50] substancev (i=47bb47f2@gateway/web/freenode/x-jctgqdcinlhunkdi) left irc: "Page closed" [12:51] substancev (n=substanc@pool-71-187-71-242.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:51] back [12:51] http://pastebin.com/m3f1c6f8 [12:51] thats my current... 250GB is currently internet [12:51] internal [12:52] mmmm filet mignon yummy [12:52] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:52] testies... 1.. 2... 3?? [12:55] Srbo (n=Srbo@109.93.171.244) joined ##slackware. [12:56] well, so far i'm not getting as many undeclared BIGENDIAN errors [12:57] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.24.80) joined ##slackware. [12:57] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:58] BIGENDIAN? can you elaborate on that? [12:58] jomo (n=mich@p3EE218D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left ##slackware. [12:59] Kamel (n=1@c-76-123-106-217.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:59] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0FDC1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" [13:00] yeah, when using the default revision in the MPlayer.SlackBuild script, I got a bunch of errors that said something about BIGENDIAN being undeclared [13:01] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [13:01] darn power went out [13:02] welcome back [13:02] substancev: you get it figured out? [13:02] http://pastebin.com/m3f1c6f8 thats my current partition table... 250 is internal... 60 via USB. [13:03] Pig_Pen: nope. [13:03] Pig_Pen: im going to reformat sdb1 [13:04] SIGBUS__ (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) joined ##slackware. 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[13:13] remember to run /sbin/lilo after editing lilo.conf [13:13] substancev (n=substanc@pool-71-187-71-242.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:13] substancev (i=47bb47f2@gateway/web/freenode/x-kjyyrbiynziifoix) joined ##slackware. [13:13] ok back...booting into Puppy Linux [13:14] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [13:16] Srbo_ (n=Srbo@109.93.171.244) joined ##slackware. [13:16] Srbo (n=Srbo@109.93.171.244) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:16] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [13:17] slackbox (i=nocturna@was.denied-inter.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:18] Pig_Pen: does my 60 GB drive look fine? partition wise? if so i will now preform a dd if=/dev/sda6 of=/dev/sdb1 [13:18] SIGBUS_ (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) left irc: No route to host [13:18] does this 60GB drive make me look fat ? [13:19] no, your ass makes you look fat [13:19] Camarade_Tux, i see you on reddit [13:19] you are just doing the same thing over again? somewhere along the way you will run in to the same problem if you dont figure out where it went wrong [13:19] im just starting over .. going to take it one step at a time [13:20] edman007: ;-) [13:20] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:20] Camarade_Tux, replied :P [13:20] komentarze_listy (n=komentar@unaffiliated/komentarze) joined ##slackware. [13:21] substancev: you could just make a disk partition and copy it over i used midnight commander to copy over slackware from one partition to another and edited fstab and had lilo dual booting two exact copys (one for backup) [13:21] edman007: oh come on, I'll have to reply back now, I was finally getting productive! :P [13:21] hi, i would like to play Go! Anyone knows a good Go program ?:P [13:21] lol [13:21] rsync could do it [13:22] ok.. so mount the driives and just copy over? [13:22] Camarade_Tux, anyways, i like the example a few lines up 'screen -d -m /usr/local/bin/mplayer -display :0 /home/mike/tmp.video/1857962.flv', .flv is probably pr0n...especialy with that file name/path [13:23] i don't wanna mess up.. could you give me the proper command syntax for rsync [13:23] flv is flash [13:23] http://imagebin.org/79203 lulz! [13:23] jeev, and why would a linux download flash videos? [13:23] edman007: hehe, true ;p [13:24] run rsync in test mode first if you're not sure what it will do [13:24] you already messed up once, dont make the same mistake again by doing the exact same thing without figuring out where you went wrong the first time [13:24] *linux user [13:24] eh? [13:24] i dont know ? [13:24] edman007: yeah, I just mentionned -slave without any other detail because I've been coding and I'm only thinking about my code ;-) [13:24] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.161.28) joined ##slackware. [13:25] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [13:25] heh [13:25] Action: edman007 has been consuming too much caffeine to think [13:25] sda6 and sdb1 are mounted in /mnt/HD1 /mnt/HD2 respectively.. soo now i rsync /mnt/HD1 /mnt/HD2 ? [13:26] Hoogin (n=hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left ##slackware. [13:26] sounds right, check rsync --help first for anything you might need to use with it [13:26] substancev, `rsync -av ` and add --delete-excluded if you want it to remove files from the dest that don't appear in the source [13:27] the -v is only if you want to see the results [13:27] edman007: great! [13:27] -a is all the sane/safe options combined [13:27] i was just reading about the exclude [13:27] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: "Leaving" [13:28] stupid laptop market! damn them for abandoning the serial port [13:28] ristretto how do i tell what file system a usb stick is from the command line ? [13:28] s/ristretto// [13:28] thanks guys. ill be back when this transfer is done. [13:29] i hate not having a serial port [13:29] i'd rather have that than firewire [13:29] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:29] after it copies edit fstab & lilo.conf then use the slackware install CD to boot it and run /sbin/lilo [13:29] Action: edman007 has a seiral port and a usb/serial adaptor [13:29] and the null modem adaptor [13:29] Action: mrselfpwn has an adapter. [13:29] HAHAHA! SUCCESS! i finally got mplayer to build with today's revision [13:30] i am going to call Dell and tell them i want a new laptop with a serial port or we cant do business [13:32] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:33] ##slackware: mode change '-o alienBOB' by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [13:33] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:35] Immundus (n=obi@e179136060.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [13:36] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [13:39] wertik_rus (n=mirggi@95-24-47-168.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:39] What is the color code for 'red' in 256 colors? [13:40] wertik_rus (n=mirggi@95-24-47-168.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Client Quit [13:40] wertik_rus (n=mirggi@95-24-47-168.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:41] ##ff0000 ? [13:41] thats what google shows [13:41] "which" red? and there are chances there is not a single answer [13:42] SIGBUS__ (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:42] gm152: not 256 colors but 24bit [13:42] Action: dtanner lites a bowl [13:42] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:42] Sorry for not being clear lilo.conf file has bmp-colors key. I need to set values for that. [13:43] tried "red" or "r" [13:43] also, see "man lilo.conf" [13:43] hello [13:43] It's currently set to 255 0 255 0 255 0 [13:44] So one color represents one number I guess. I wonder what number red would be? [13:45] You can use whole values between 0 - 15. [13:45] 0=black [13:45] 15=white [13:45] Channel flood from dtanner -- kicking [13:45] 1-14=colors of grayscale between 0 an 15 [13:45] dtanner kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [13:45] dtanner (n=dtanner@adsl-76-244-78-56.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:45] there's not a single red [13:45] neogooglian, depends on the format, the order is always RGB[A], with each channel being usually 8 or 16 bits, however video cards and monitors often shorten it taking the highest order bits of each color and often give more bits to green [13:45] dtanner, pwnt [13:45] =0 [13:45] when you enable verbose in a program thats running.. does it slow it down sinceit is displaying data [13:46] substancev, usually...at the minimum you waste CPU putting the extra verboseness on the screen [13:46] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@2001:7a8:34d5:0:0:0:e:667) joined ##slackware. [13:47] So any number between 0-15 is good. Could someone tell what the term for representing colors using such numbers? 8-bit? [13:47] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:48] and if you have slow display, it can get really slow [13:48] neogooglian, no, i doubt it, that looks like a 16-bit code [13:48] Axius (n=gi@92.85.218.23) left irc: "leaving" [13:48] err 16-bits per channel [13:49] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [13:49] Axius (n=gi@92.85.218.23) joined ##slackware. [13:49] anways, 255=max per channel, 0=min, and it is in the order rgb, so 255 0 0 0 0 0 should be "red" though it may be 255 255 0 0 0 0 (I'm too lazy to read documentation, you can do that) [13:50] remember RGB (Red, Green, Blue) and 255 0 255 0 255 0 = white, 255 0 0 0 0 0 = red, 0 0 255 0 0 0 = Green, 0 0 0 0 255 0 = blue [13:50] kleanchap (n=kleancha@93.195.18.59) joined ##slackware. [13:51] build/install gcolor2 and get a copy of rgb.txt and save as ~/.rgb.txt [13:52] Pig_Pen, are the other 0s the low order bits? [13:52] or is it something else? [13:52] neogooglian: The list consists of 6 entries, 3 for normal text followed by 3 for highlighted text. The order of each triple is: foreground color, background color, shadow color. If background color is not specified, [13:52] cp /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt ~/.rgb.txt [13:52] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [13:52] goarilla (n=goarilla@unaffiliated/goarilla) joined ##slackware. [13:53] Thanks guys. dtanner what color code should I give if i want to change the foreground color to red? [13:53] maoyama (n=Motoko-c@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:53] ist modprobe.d/blacklist obsolete since udev ? [13:53] i think so edman007 i am not a graphics guru, but i tinker with graphics a little [13:53] neogooglian: i don't know the color reference [13:53] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [13:54] Axius (n=gi@92.85.218.23) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:54] Pig_Pen, well if it is then red is 255 255 0 0 0 0, without that you are a shade darker [13:54] i am searching newegg for a laptop that still has a serial port, i think my efforts are fruitless [13:55] last one i saw with serial port was toshiba tecra [13:55] goarilla, no, you can blacklist modules from loading [13:55] tecra, thanks! i will keep my eyes open for that [13:55] sure thing, np [13:56] doesn't work [13:56] thrice`: [13:56] LinuxAdmin (n=nuno@a83-132-44-35.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:56] goarilla, hm? blacklist.conf is probably desired, too [13:56] (as the .conf extension is needed for anything in modprobe.d/ these days) [13:56] where should blacklist.conf be [13:56] wertik_rus (n=mirggi@95-24-47-168.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 92 (Protocol not available) [13:56] hmm. thanks. I'll try that [13:56] /etc/modprobe.d/ [13:56] Nick change: maoyama -> Motoko-chan [13:57] k [13:58] komentarze_listy (n=komentar@unaffiliated/komentarze) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:00] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [14:00] rsync complete [14:00] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [14:00] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [14:01] so now lilo -M /dev/sdb and change configs in fstab and lilo.conf? [14:01] what the heck is with laptop marketing? are they selling laptops as a fashion accesory? i want a laptop with a serial port, i dont care if it is half inch thicker than what they think it should be [14:01] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:02] goarilla (n=goarilla@unaffiliated/goarilla) left irc: "leaving" [14:02] yeah, now edit fstab and umount the usb drive and unplug, then use the slackware CD to boot the drive, and fix up lilo.conf and run /sbin/lilo [14:02] goarilla (n=goarilla@unaffiliated/goarilla) joined ##slackware. [14:02] ok.. [14:03] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl10-166-175.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:03] Pig_Pen, the big problem is serial ports are an old tech, as such they require big clunky parts (both physically and electrically) which makes them very expensive compared to modern parts, and almost nobody uses it so they don't include it [14:05] rs232 puts out -12 and +12V for data, at the same time 99% of the stuff on the board is probably running off 3.3V [14:05] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:05] ah i did not know they were hogging up so much electricity [14:06] Axius (n=oijhif@92.85.218.23) joined ##slackware. [14:06] i can see why they ditched them now, with battery life being such a premium on a laptop [14:07] voltage != P [14:08] Pig_Pen, its not a lot of electricity, just a ridiculously high voltage compared to modern components, rs232 almost always needs its own dedicated supply (often implemented in an IC) [14:08] flash defaults to the primary alsa sound card [14:09] bah [14:09] What about those USB RS232 adapters? [14:09] but if they want to keep everything down to 3.3v then the serial port has to go :( [14:09] usb rs232 sometimes arent compatible with everything, same goes for pcmci cards, onboard ones are always the most compatible [14:09] i seen a belkin usb to serial adapter for 40 bucks, i guess that will do [14:10] you can get them cheaper [14:10] depends on what you need that shit for really [14:10] I have some old Palm adapters. [14:10] as long as it works with linux and does not need a wierd driver [14:10] Pig_Pen: prolific chipsets work well with linux [14:11] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [14:12] i have an Icom PCR1000 software defined radio that uses a serial port, i think i know why i got it for 200 bucks, all that hardware is going to be changed over to usb soon and they are getting rid of the old stuff [14:13] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-3-51.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:13] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [14:13] How to set linux to default in a dual boot configuration with windows in lilo.conf. After time out linux should load not windows. [14:14] you need to put the linux stanza first in /etc/lilo.conf [14:14] That's all? :-O [14:15] LinuxAdmin (n=nuno@a83-132-44-35.cpe.netcabo.pt) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [14:15] and run /sbin/lilo [14:15] Yivz (n=yivz@adsl-152-209-181.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:15] of course, thanks again Pig_Pen [14:15] Motoko-chan, the voltage issuse has been around so long that there is a standard TTL-rs232 chip, basically 5V data and 5V power go in, and the chip has a +12V and a -12V power supplies powered by the 5V and it converts for you, but it is still an extra chip needed just for the whole power issue, and rs232 does not connect to any of the high speed buses on the modern chipsets, so often you have to find a chip that connects to a high [14:15] speed bus, puts out low speed data, and then boost the power and connect it to a big expensive connector [14:16] http://imagebin.org/79221 the software runs great in wine [14:18] Pig_Pen: should work then [14:18] chris_abela (n=chris2@78.133.33.181) joined ##slackware. [14:18] good [14:18] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.92.112.132) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:19] i think i had to make some links from /dev/USB0 to post too /dev/com1 etc [14:19] s/post/point [14:20] yeah, thats all i did was make a symlink from /dev/ttyS0 in to wine's dosdevices dir and named it com1 [14:21] renamed the symlink that is [14:21] Pig_Pen: what is this radio exactley ? [14:21] ham radio or something ? [14:22] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:22] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.92.112.132) joined ##slackware. [14:22] it is just a receiver [14:22] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [14:22] 10 kilohertz to 1300 mhz [14:23] edman007 your suggestion to use 255 0 0 0 0 0 didn't quite work out. Had black invisible text when it was highlighted. [14:24] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:24] i said 255 255 0 0 0 0 [14:24] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [14:24] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [14:24] anyways...i don't know if that would help [14:24] i was reading some forums about software defined radios and usb to serial adapters and some people were reporting lag and slowness in reponse from the radio (which i want to avoid) [14:25] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:25] White Text Here [14:25] Pig_Pen, serial is just slow... [14:26] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.46.44) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:26] edman007 no problem. thanks for your help. [14:26] it has nothing to do with the usb or the adapter portion [14:26] neogooglian, i'm not saying i'm right, just that that is my guess [14:26] Red Text Here [14:26] Pig_Pen, we are not talking about html...are we? [14:26] Green Text Here [14:27] nvision (n=nvision@e179134110.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [14:27] Blue Text Here [14:28] Action: edman007 prefers hex [14:28] those examples are html, but the same principal should fit (the 255, 255, 255 and other numbered combinations) [14:29] Pig_Pen, i think the whole issues is nobody in this channel can be bothered with reading the documentation, thus we are all taking wild ass guesses at what each number means... [14:29] s/issues/issue/ [14:29] rgb (rednumber, greennumber, bluenumber) [14:29] marchhare (n=marchhar@65.30.221.199) joined ##slackware. [14:30] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:30] kukukk (i=bc184354@gateway/web/freenode/x-fqtlowhukzkfepxg) joined ##slackware. [14:30] hy [14:30] hi? [14:31] I have tried to upgrade the kernel in my slackware current, but I have some problems :} [14:31] I have root/swap and home partitions on lvm [14:31] Axius (n=oijhif@92.85.218.23) left irc: "Leaving" [14:31] I have recreated the initrd [14:31] Has anyone gotten a proper set of mixer controls for the ICH9 82801i (G45 DEVCTG) sound card under ALSA? [14:31] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:32] But when I lilo, it gives some warnings: Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure. [14:32] if you're running lilo from a chroot or liveCd, you need to mount /proc [14:32] I have mounted /proc [14:33] and /dev ? [14:33] kukukk, warnings are not errors... [14:33] mount with bind [14:33] And sometimes you need to mknod some things if udev isn't running. [14:33] did you see if it worked? [14:33] /dev should be bind mounted, proc doesn't [14:33] Action: edman007 gets a dozen "warnings" when he runs lilo, it does not like the symlinks that udev makes for the device mapper [14:34] and thus lilo complains that you specify symlinks and not actual devices in the lilo.conf [14:34] mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev ? [14:34] edman007: sometimes LILO gives you a fatal error with those. [14:34] I have started the slackware install setup, which mounts /proc and /sys [14:34] caoliver, in that case it does not call it a warning ;) [14:34] Still has those warning messages. [14:35] And another message from lilo: Name change: '/dev/dm-0' -> '/dev/myslackvg/root' [14:35] warnings are good, they tell you that something *might* be wrong [14:35] re-l (n=re-l@c-98-197-118-188.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:35] Usually, I'm running LILO from a busybox recovery system, and I wind up using cpio to copy nodes from /dev/mapper to /mnt/dev/mapper. [14:36] kukukk, yea, that is the one that i said, that one can be ignored, it is complaining about symlinks [14:36] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [14:36] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.92.112.132) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:37] But when I start my system, it can't boot :} [14:37] Srbo_ (n=Srbo@109.93.171.244) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:39] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "A little boy who had a big hallucination..." [14:39] dfrank (n=dfrank@188.134.8.110) joined ##slackware. [14:40] lmao2k (n=nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:40] dear All, i have /etc/X11/xorg.conf-vesa instead of xorg.conf ! I trying to set up keyboard layout in this file, but nothing changings:( whats wrong? Should i edit this xorg.conf-vesa ? [14:40] substancev (i=47bb47f2@gateway/web/freenode/x-kjyyrbiynziifoix) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [14:41] X only reads xorg.conf . the -vesa is just an example to use - you can move it to xorg.conf and make edits [14:41] thrice`: ok, thank you [14:42] thrice`, you still cant fix that ksm thing? [14:43] kukukk (i=bc184354@gateway/web/freenode/x-fqtlowhukzkfepxg) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [14:43] jeev, I gave on slack's kernel, and just using my own again [14:43] oh [14:43] thrice`: yes, i got it! thanks again :) [14:44] dfrank, sure :) [14:44] substancev (i=47bb47f2@gateway/web/freenode/x-qrvhlmzwjekwmmyr) joined ##slackware. [14:44] hey... [14:44] ok... im logged into a slack boot disk... but i think i need to chroot my drive ... [14:44] right? [14:45] What are you trying to do? [14:45] is there a way to determine what charset my filesystem is using? [14:45] well.. i moved my linux partition to a new harddrive... using rsync... now im trying to make this bootable. [14:45] Ah. [14:45] so im trying to run lilo on it [14:45] tss [14:45] how to i chroot /dev/sda1 ? [14:45] You can mount the root on /mnt [14:46] Then use lilo's -r option [14:46] large parts of our neihgbouring countries have declare snow alert/emergency state ... yet we do not have that luxury [14:46] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [14:47] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-186.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:47] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.88.99) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:47] kukukk (n=dvorak@188.24.65.216) joined ##slackware. [14:47] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:47] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [14:47] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.88.99) joined ##slackware. [14:47] substancev: you got a Slackware CD? it will boot your system do root=/dev/sda1 initrd ro [14:48] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [14:48] trying now [14:48] i worked!@ [14:48] oye (n=oye@84.120.132.229.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:48] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:49] i just mounted /dev/sda1 to /mnt/root then chrooted then i ran lilo and lilo -R and now im booting up [14:49] now fix up lilo.conf and run /sbin/lilo and you should be good to go [14:49] hey folks :-) [14:49] PsYkHe (i=PsYkHe@187.36.130.122) joined ##slackware. [14:49] what up macavity [14:49] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.161.28) left irc: "leaving" [14:49] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-186.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:50] nothing much [14:51] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [14:51] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:51] babbo (n=nnscript@93-34-48-84.ip48.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Client Quit [14:52] It's working :} [14:54] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:54] any pidgin users here? tls/ssl issues.. [14:55] Srbo_ (n=Srbo@109.93.171.244) joined ##slackware. [14:55] jeev, explain [14:56] i guess pidgin doesnt use openssl because of the license [14:56] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:56] tls/ssl in pidgin? what for? [14:56] aim requires it [14:56] even google talk i guess which i dont use [14:57] jeev, nope, pidgin can use it [14:57] Really? for logging in? [14:57] openssl is open... [14:57] yep Azeotrope [14:57] Azeotrope, depends if the protocol supports it, a lot don't, but you can chat over an encrypted link [14:57] edman007, just read that it's against license or something. maybe it was someone talking out of their ass [14:58] alkos333 (n=alkos333@70-8-178-114.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [14:58] I know Pidgin usually builds with nss [14:58] Why can't I use OpenSSL for SSL support in libpurple? [14:58] The OpenSSL license is not compatible with the libpurple license (GPLv2). The Free Software Foundation maintains a list of open-source licenses and details their compatibility or incompatibility with the GPL. The OpenSSL license is discussed there. [14:58] In summary: you need GNUTLS or Mozilla NSS and NSPR; OpenSSL will not do. [14:58] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:58] jeev, nope, not at all, openssl is open [14:58] edman007: there is OTR for secure chatting. also pigdin-paranoia, in theory unbreakable. [14:58] OpenSSL isn't GPL-compatible iirc [14:58] Motoko-chan, nss just wraps openssl... [14:58] that's from developer.pidgin [14:59] http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/FAQssl#WhycantIuseOpenSSLforSSLsupportinlibpurple [14:59] Yep, that's what I said. [15:00] The developers could add an OpenSSL exception. [15:00] whatever...it still does tls/ssl [15:00] i guess i can build nss and then... [15:00] jeev, nss is in firefox and seamonkey, just point it to that [15:01] true [15:01] i didnt see anything other than plugins in my mozilla dir of usr lib [15:01] or seamonkey-solibs if you just needs the nss without the browser [15:01] i don't know what I have, but pidgin does encryption on anything I want... [15:01] i use the browser too.. [15:01] this is a slackware vps ontop of a slackware host.. i connect via nxserver :D [15:02] /usr/include/seamonkey-2.0.1/nss ok cool [15:02] jeev, it is not a plugin, the mozilla people wrote NSS (i think), it is their encryption lib...and you need it for https so it is just built in and you can link to that [15:03] yea i didn't say it's a plugin dood [15:03] i said all i found was a plugin folder. [15:05] lmao2k (n=nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. 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[15:13] After playing many times with lilo.conf I've come to know the bmp-color var can be used to configure only two colors viz., black and white [15:14] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:15] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-73-140.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [15:16] lol [15:16] neogooglian, maybe you can try reading the documentation [15:16] because i don't think anyone else wants to read it [15:17] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:18] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) left irc: Client Quit [15:19] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:19] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware. [15:19] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:19] I totally hosed my system yesterday. [15:19] i r dumb. [15:19] dear All! i trying to get terminus font in X (using fluxbox), i have *pcf.gz files in /usr/local/share/fonts/terminus/ , i have added this path to xorg.conf (FontPath), but terminus font still doesn't appear :( what should i do? [15:20] antiwire: What'd you do? [15:20] one malformed, unthought out chmod and she's dead, jim. [15:20] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-183-134.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:20] dfrank: terminus is a console font, you know? [15:20] antiwire: ouch [15:20] i told someone in #ubuntu to use slack for servers and now i'm getting punished [15:20] the infamous permissions restore script worked on the system but the mess in /etc was really bad [15:21] antiwire: Are you near to where the earthquake was yesterday? Sound like it was a fairly strong one, 6.5 [15:21] alienBOB: yep, but i (don't know how) got it in KDE [15:22] fire|bird: too far south [15:22] alienBOB: it is very useful to use it in gvim and terminal emulators [15:22] alienBOB: isn't it? [15:22] fire|bird: I did something along the lines of 'chm(donotrunthis)d 700 .* -R' [15:22] why not using Ubuntu as a server? [15:22] antiwire, pfft, not as bad as a malformed rm [15:22] ... [15:23] edman007: what I did really did it good though [15:23] it basically ruined access to everything in the whole system [15:23] root account was fine though ;) [15:23] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [15:23] i've done both, rm'd /usr/bin and put an rpm through alien which made a .tgz that included a chmod 600 /usr [15:24] lol [15:24] yea...as if i didn't hate rpms enough [15:24] It would have taken more time for me to go through /etc than I wanted to spend [15:24] antiwire, yea, i did /etc too [15:24] that is bad... [15:25] tell me why not using ubuntu [15:26] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) joined ##slackware. [15:26] as server please [15:26] i need my beliefs to be validated [15:26] Azeotrope: use whatever the hell you want. we don't care. [15:26] you're mena [15:26] mean [15:26] No [15:27] If you do not know what to choose and you come to ##slackware - we will advise to use Slackware [15:27] Azeotrope: use the distro you're most comfortable with. [15:27] Azeotrope: it is table, easy to admin [15:28] stable* [15:28] and if i go to #remote-exploit i'm gona use backtrack [15:28] you should use DVL [15:28] http://www.damnvulnerablelinux.org/ [15:28] never knew about that. i'm in love [15:29] make sure you have all services enabled too [15:29] don't let yourself get the short end of the deal [15:30] why would people invent such a thing? [15:30] for testing [15:30] it's for proof of concepts, learning, sandboxing [15:31] o/ antiwire [15:31] yo [15:31] brb [15:31] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "Leaving." [15:31] antiwire: does that page work right in any browser, or is it broken intentionally? [15:31] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:31] booohooo.. he doesnt love me anymore :P [15:31] antiwire: does that page work right in any browser, or is it broken intentionally? [15:31] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-73-140.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:32] pprkut: looks pretty damn broken, as well as damn vulnerable ;) [15:32] good then ;) [15:33] Re: earlier discussion of lilo using bind mounts. Note strongly: this will NOT work if you're running a system out of rootfs. You can't bind mount from there with a vanilla kernel. [15:33] hrm...where is dos2unix when i need it? [15:34] SIGBUS_ (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:34] it must have gotten renamed, but to what?!?! [15:35] Azeotrope: just be absolutely clear on this whole backtrack issue: if you come in here asking about help for backtrack you *will* be flamed, ridiculed and/or kicked :P [15:35] Action: macavity theatrically sets a backtrack and a slax disc on fire [15:36] macavity: no dude, i'll go to #ubuntu for that [15:36] LOL :-) [15:36] slax is kinda nice [15:36] ok, i think its very good that backtrack 4 is now based on debian instead [15:37] Watch out for the fumes, they're toxic. [15:37] s/,/;/ [15:37] caoliver: what does s/,/;/ means [15:38] bbiab [15:38] uhm.. no, bbl [15:38] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [15:38] Azeotrope: man sed [15:39] edman007: fromdos/todos [15:39] Substitute ; for , in my last sentence. [15:39] Pseudo-sed [15:39] alienBOB, yea, just found it by grepping /usr/bin :/ [15:39] Action: edman007 hates stupid renames like that [15:40] It is not a rename [15:40] It is not even the same program [15:40] Can't you do that stuff with tr easily enough? [15:40] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:41] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [15:41] In case of future noob chmoding, is there some slick trick to recursively get /etc back to a sane set of permissions? [15:42] antiwire: not to mention noob chowning. [15:42] no shit ;) [15:42] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:43] i think the manifest has the permissions of all the files so ... [15:43] The manifest works for things installed by Slackware [15:43] ..and I did use the mega script to fix the rest of the system. [15:43] ikonia (n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) joined ##slackware. [15:43] but /etc is a beast of a different form [15:43] Delahunt (n=robert@fe219-115.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [15:43] mega script ? [15:44] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:44] well its usually 644 for files and 755 for dirs [15:44] except the /etc/rc.d/ [15:44] and shadow files [15:44] you want shadow 644? [15:44] There is a whole lot more stuff in etc than just rc.d/ and shadow that require more permissions though [15:44] Information should be free! :-D [15:45] 666 := the protection of the beast. [15:45] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.17) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:45] there it is 644 for passwd groups and 600 for shadow and gshadow [15:45] I should know, I just made my /etc 700 and life after that is not fun at all. [15:45] dude [15:46] there are font control dirs, sensors, profiles, dbus, bash stuff, X11 [15:46] it's a large mess [15:46] Agree. [15:46] how about making backups? [15:46] backups are had [15:47] well, They are fine but a few weeks old [15:47] I'm not trying to save the system anymore [15:47] I'm asking if anyone knows of a list or some black magic that can restore a permission hosed /etc [15:48] chris_abela (n=chris2@78.133.33.181) joined ##slackware. [15:48] like i said [15:48] don't say it again [15:48] whats wrong with parsing MANIFEST [15:48] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.230.168) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:48] MANIFEST will not fix etc [15:48] dfrank (n=dfrank@188.134.8.110) left irc: "leaving" [15:48] dolphin77 (n=dolphin7@klient-32-111.hol.net.ua) joined ##slackware. [15:49] Action: antiwire throws fish at goarilla [15:49] i got 1113 files in etc, 948 are 644 nad 101 are 755 [15:49] goarilla: you want to test your theory? [15:49] go for it [15:49] what ? [15:49] Do you have access to a second slackware box? [15:50] chmod /etc 700 and see if your suggestion works. it doesn't [15:50] caoliver: I've already wiped the mess and copied backups back in [15:50] So rhetorical question then? [15:51] rhetorical if you want to call it that. More of a "was there a better way?" question [15:51] Most of etc could be rsync'ed from another of my boxes. [15:51] um so would someone like a copy of ls -Rlh / [15:51] xumpi (n=xumpi@a95-93-83-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:51] snow in France >> http://www.premiumorange.com/fredoslack/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=56 [15:52] ;-) [15:52] /etc itself is 755 [15:52] PsYkHe (i=PsYkHe@187.36.130.122) left irc: [15:52] everything in etc should be owned by root:root execpt for the 2 files in group shadow, gshadow and shadow [15:52] About the only diffs are rc.inet1.conf, passwd, group, shadow, HOSTNAME, and ssh/*host* [15:52] xumpi (n=xumpi@a95-93-83-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:52] most of the files are 755 [15:53] 644 [15:53] most dirs are 644 [15:53] er 644, dirs are 755 [15:53] 755* [15:53] anders_ (n=anders@ua-83-227-136-194.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [15:53] yeah [15:53] um a directory that is not executable will not let you change directory to it, right? [15:53] guys you are forgetting that some nested directories need root only and some need user access [15:53] there's also root:daemon on some systems, it's not that clear cut [15:53] yes Delahunt [15:53] ... [15:53] Action: caoliver shakes and wobbles is head vigorously. [15:53] stuff in /etc/rc.d/ is a+x usually [15:53] mancha: they aren't listening [15:53] s/is/his [15:54] Tnx! [15:54] You should do what I did in vm and see how bad it gets [15:54] No thanks. Not a fan of pain. [15:54] make /*.* 700 and see how easy it is get the system back for users [15:55] kittens will cry [15:55] cups stuff is another example, as is ppp stuff [15:55] /*.* ? you said /etc [15:55] Hi all, im currently using the "official" Slackware 64bit version, wanting to upgrade my kernel, it failed when running "make bzImage", it complains about "kernel/bounds.c kernel does not support 32bit mode", what is my error here, any advice would be nice (I have installed AlienBobs packages for multilib, using 32bit applications also like wine). [15:55] goarilla: dude I did the whole system [15:55] ouch [15:55] etc was the worst [15:55] eveything else was fine [15:55] /etc/passwd corruption is almost as much fun. [15:55] i did that 2 a long time ago :D [15:55] i gave up [15:55] :D [15:56] I didn't directly do it to / I did .* -R as root [15:56] just boot with a install disk and edit it [15:56] it went up into .. [15:56] but i got 13 non 755 dirs in etc and 60 non 755 or 644 files in /etc/ [15:57] You should have seen the aftermath [15:57] you had users on it ? [15:57] I started kde and the first time it just bombed. After I sort of fixed /etc kde...this is no joke...started backwards and upside down [15:57] I kid you not. [15:57] anders_, you should tell it 64 bit kernel [15:57] backwards and upside down ? [15:57] yes [15:57] all you really need to be concerned with are user and data files, like your imap, mysql files [15:57] i wished you had taken screenshots [15:57] edk? [15:58] if you got backups, just do a clean install and put that stuff back and then you don't need to worry about permissions [15:58] goarilla: I wanted to but couldn't nothing worked lol [15:58] Skywise: that's what I did [15:58] not even xwd ? [15:58] and its still no good? [15:58] Skywise: it's fine now. I'm talking about what happened [15:58] oh ok [15:59] I do have a bunch of SBo packages to rebuild but other than that, all good. [15:59] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [15:59] my pc crashed after 16 days of uptime screen hardlocked and nothing in the logs [15:59] but i finally fixed my gl issues [15:59] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [15:59] :D so i'm kinda pleased it did since my X is a lot more responsive now [16:00] Good grief. Inkscape has moved to bzr. Why does ANYONE move to bzr? [16:00] that can be from something like a bad psu [16:00] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:00] i just had that happen to me [16:00] i thought the system was overheating [16:00] well my system does overheat as well Skywise :D [16:00] but it failed twice later on the same day [16:00] Delahunt, it's says generic x86_64 [16:00] ok [16:00] then i got lucky and the psu failed entirely [16:01] so that was an easy fix [16:01] i should put it back together tho [16:01] i have it laying around in an open case [16:01] for when i wanted to do stability tests [16:01] but i always was too lazy to finish it [16:02] it makes a vacuum cleaners filter look pristine [16:02] yeah, i have piles of stuff i'm gonna test one say [16:02] er one day [16:02] even tho its obsolete and i couldn't trust it at all, i keep it around for testing [16:02] anders_, maybe ARCH="x86_64" make bzImage [16:03] i don't think you make bzImage anymore [16:03] just make will make a compressed kernel by default [16:03] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:04] i don't think so [16:04] unless make is a alias to make bzImage [16:04] and not make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install [16:05] i always do make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install [16:06] na, specifying ARCH didnt work either. [16:06] jg71 (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:06] i don't know what to do at that point then [16:06] jg71 (n=edud@76.74.129.199) joined ##slackware. [16:06] Action: Delahunt thinks this is yet another example of why he doesn't do the mixed lib thing [16:06] i think just 2.4 kernels need make bzImage [16:07] Skywise, you thought wrong [16:07] i don't think bzImage is still a make target [16:07] there are several options to make so that you can choose what you want [16:07] bzImage is still a make target [16:07] however, unless memory fail me, vmlinux is a target for kernel only compilation [16:07] i think make depend has gone [16:07] Delahunt, prove it [16:08] five seconds [16:08] make help [16:08] other than that i still make my own [16:08] ok anyway, bye, thanks anyway. [16:08] read linux-whatever/README [16:08] anders_ (n=anders@ua-83-227-136-194.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: "Hey! Where'd my controlling terminal go?" [16:08] nog grep the makefile for [16:08] bzImage: [16:09] " - Make sure you have no stale .o files and dependencies lying around: cd linux make mrproper You should now have the sources correctly installed." [16:09] for pete's sake it still has you do make mrproper [16:09] dolphin77 (n=dolphin7@klient-32-111.hol.net.ua) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [16:09] nothing wrong with make mrproper [16:10] according to "make help", make is a synonym for "make bzImage && make vmlinux && make modules" [16:10] not saying there is, just that this is hella-oldschool [16:10] right [16:10] hella is old school itself [16:10] only thing i hated about make mrproper [16:10] make by default makes a compressed image [16:10] was that it deleted .config [16:10] mrproper deletes all the config'y tuff [16:10] so all you need is make; make modules [16:11] goar, that's half the point of that target [16:11] so i didn't think wrong [16:11] i would have liked it more if it didn't :D [16:11] does make distclean or make clean work :D [16:11] * bzImage - Compressed kernel image (arch/x86/boot/bzImage) [16:11] - Do a "make" to create a compressed kernel image. [16:11] all - Build all targets marked with [*] * vmlinux - Build the bare kernel * modules - Build all modules [16:11] its fromt he 2.6 readme [16:12] yep [16:12] yes and modules [16:12] and if you do make help you see why [16:12] make all makes bzImage && make modules [16:12] yes [16:12] make makes a compressed kernel image, which means that if you don't specify, it assumes bzImage [16:12] tada [16:12] so bzImage still works [16:12] yeah [16:12] just make will make bzImage as well [16:12] yeah but also the modules [16:13] heaven forbid you listen to me when i say it still works because i still use it 8-) [16:13] yes [16:13] you need to make and install modules as well [16:13] i don't want the modules :D [16:13] i don't know if make bzlilo works anymore [16:13] no, if you do make without options, bzImage [16:13] so you'd actually have to do make all && make modules_install [16:13] then don't do make modules_install [16:13] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:13] ok, you are right and I was wrong, bzImage is still a valid target [16:13] but you'll still be compiling the modules [16:14] and that takes time if you don't need it [16:14] unless you made everything in the kernel <*> then you need to make modules either implicitly or by implication using another alias [16:14] also [16:14] i do beleive you could do [16:14] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-129-173-108.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:14] at least for x86 architectures [16:14] make arch/x86/boot/bzImage [16:14] just -j5 when you compile modules [16:14] i.e. either make all && make modules_install or make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install [16:14] or make fs/sys/ext3 if you want to only build that [16:14] they're not dependent [16:15] well i wouldn't recommend -j5 on a single processor [16:15] Axius (n=oijhif@92.85.218.23) joined ##slackware. [16:15] i.e. single core [16:15] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:15] it won't do anything really [16:15] what won't do anything? [16:15] it will start 5 make jobs [16:15] -j5 on a single cpu [16:15] i know what -j5 means [16:16] but there is a point at which too many jobs makes the entire process take longer [16:16] it won't be as advantageous as on a multi core [16:16] idd [16:16] it would grind my machine [16:16] but it shouldn't hurt [16:16] it would kill it [16:16] even [16:16] of course it won't hurt [16:16] assuming you don't saturate the machine 8-) [16:16] iirc the old rule of thumb was to use 1-2 more j's than you had procs [16:16] true [16:17] i though it was 1-2/core [16:17] so if uniproc, -j2 or max -j3....don't know if that's just somoene talking out their bum or not though [16:17] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:17] somebody should time it tho [16:17] however, if you also expect to be able to surf the web, edit images in gimp, etc, are still using the machine, you may want 1 job per CPU and then one additional job [16:17] it's really up to you though [16:17] v4nelle (n=van@79.103.87.141.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:17] i guess it also depends on if the process is i/o or cpu bound [16:17] you can do -j2 on a single processor, even -j8 [16:17] i don't specify it here since i'm on a celeron 600 but at work q6600 i do -j4 [16:18] i usually do -jlo [16:18] i'd assume most processes are CPU bound except for filesystem operations, mainly because there doesn't seem to be much in the way of "omg fps" offloading to the video processor [16:18] lo some ? [16:18] or rather wish i did -jlo [16:18] heh [16:18] make itself find out ? [16:18] i remember last time i checked on adobe photoshop and illustrator, they were mainly CPU bound [16:18] i'd assume gimp is also CPU bound [16:19] goarilla: my q6600 box is dead. I hate you! ;-) [16:19] at work that is [16:19] not here [16:20] i found that the difference between -j1 and -j2 was the most dramatic one, the rest after that are just shaving seconds off [16:20] -j2 to -j4 is still a biggish leap. [16:20] 2cpu.com had an article about time difference with xeon processors in compiling kernels but oh well [16:21] since i still use this machine, -j2 for me [16:21] when / if my other machines come and i get distcc, i'll be doing 1 job per network machine plus 2 here 8-) [16:21] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:21] let the compile clusters begin! 8-) [16:22] Gig-over-copper infrastructure? [16:22] Or faster> [16:22] ? [16:22] wireless [16:22] the machine i am referring to is my old pentium-m laptop [16:22] Ok. I was thinking of a compile farm of multicore boxes. [16:22] i wish 8-) [16:23] i used to have a pentium-3 tualatin 1.13GHz (each) with 1.5GB ram, you could run -j8 on that without problems [16:23] Until the electric bill shows up. [16:23] you might want to do some research as to how power saving or not computers are [16:24] i thought that until i checked. turns out the PSU seems to eat the same wattage almost constantly [16:24] but anyways, fwiw, i'd have to check on it again [16:24] The Q6600 box eats 135W standstill with a decent PSU. [16:24] At the moment, it doesn't eat anything. :-/ [16:24] they have adaptive PSUs now, i can't wait to try one, but oh well [16:25] Hmm... who makes 'em? I'm hoping it's the PSU (Seasonic 550W) that's bad, and there are any additional corpses. [16:26] s/are/aren't/ [16:26] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [16:26] Action: caoliver makes note to self: "need new typing fingers." [16:27] alkos333 (n=alkos333@70-8-178-114.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:29] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: "leaving" [16:29] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:29] chris_abela (n=chris2@78.133.33.181) left irc: "leaving" [16:29] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [16:30] eviljame1 (n=james@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [16:30] I getting problems with slackware 64 current, xchat e perl scripts [16:30] anyone with the same? [16:30] hey, why would tracepath apparently resolve a path to a particular host but traceroute hangs after the 7th hop? [16:30] i receive this [16:30] Can't locate File/Spec.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib64/perl5/5.10.0/x86_64-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib64/perl5/5.10.0 /usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0/x86_64-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0/x86_64-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl .) at (eval 1) line 28. [16:30] BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 1) line 28. [16:31] when starting xchat com perl 5.10.1 [16:31] Alt_of_Ctrl: Don't paste in the channel, please. [16:31] godling, sorry [16:31] traceroute uses the TTL and tracepath also uses ICMP or something else ? [16:31] crap nevermind [16:32] sounds like perl was updated and xchat was compiled against a different version [16:32] Action: godling concurs with Dr. mancha [16:32] could be the 7th hop disables any ICMP TTL exceeded messages [16:32] mancha, yes [16:32] and tracepath uses something entirely different [16:32] or just makes assumptions [16:32] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:32] mancha, how can i solve it? [16:33] rebuild xchat? [16:33] re-compile xchat against current system perl [16:33] the man page of tracepath mentions something about guessing the ttl [16:33] which seems like an EXTRAORDINARILY stupid thing to do [16:33] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.76.223) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:33] mancha, shoud I inform Pat and his team about that? [16:33] I just want to watch Hulu. :( [16:34] so ? [16:34] trying some proxying then ? if you're not in the US [16:34] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "A little boy who had a big hallucination..." [16:35] no, I'm in California goarilla :( [16:36] the other day Hulu just decided to give me the "Sorry, we are unable to stream this video" error message [16:36] I have no idea why. [16:36] I already tried to rebuild xchat [16:36] godling: clear your cache [16:36] antiwire: I did that five billion times [16:36] I couldn't [16:36] because hulu isn't supposed to do pr0n? [16:37] well not five billion [16:37] godling: does it work now? [16:37] maybe 4,999,999,999 [16:37] alisonken1home: no [16:37] what were you trying to watch? [16:37] anything [16:38] everything on the site is unavailable :( [16:38] that is, I get that error message [16:38] hmm - I know my wife would be screaming at me if her hulu didn't work and I'm watching my jay leno queue right now [16:38] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-73-140.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [16:38] isn't that strange, though? [16:38] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:39] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-73-140.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:39] Anyone with problems with slackware 64 current, xchat e perl scripts? [16:39] I'm on verizon in rancho cucamonga (close to the Ontario airport) [16:39] maybe they have blocked the west coast :D [16:39] I've got FIOS [16:39] i wish i had fios [16:39] ok - might want to check with the fios then, I'm using dsl [16:39] no you don't [16:39] it's a pita [16:39] :\ [16:39] badly deployed then [16:40] Alt_of_Ctrl: which script? [16:40] yep goarilla [16:40] this router eats babies [16:40] amarok.pl for example [16:40] i can use any of perl scripts for xchat [16:41] eviljames (n=james@96.49.81.107) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:41] alicephilippa, do u have xchat? [16:41] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-129-173-108.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:41] thanks for the suggestions guys [16:41] alicephilippa? :) and yes I'm using xchat right now, but no scripts running [16:41] ok [16:42] if a try to run perl scripts on xchat [16:42] xchat dont work [16:42] "dont work" is not very descriptive, Alt_of_Ctrl [16:42] ok [16:42] wait [16:42] in window->plugins and scripts - what version of perl is showing? [16:43] Alt_of_Ctrl: but you might try to recompile perl manually [16:43] mine is 2.8.6 (running x86_64-current as of yesterday [16:43] ) [16:43] Alt_of_Ctrl: I have to do that sometimes with rxvt-unicode [16:43] SigmaVirus24 (n=WhoAmI@pool-71-255-83-244.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:43] hfjardim (n=hfjardim@78.149.85.126) joined ##slackware. [16:43] godling, http://pastebin.com/m5d7a90a7 [16:43] xchat needs a recompile due to the perl upgrade. [16:43] both need it [16:43] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.92.112.132) left irc: "Leaving" [16:44] I am thinking specifically of my case, though, so nevermind [16:44] sorry [16:44] bah [16:44] I hate computers :P [16:45] how can I notice Pat about that? [16:45] He knows [16:45] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-67-162-31-157.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:46] so I have to wait [16:46] yeah? [16:46] or rebuild it yourself [16:46] compile it yourself [16:46] no, just rebuild it yourself [16:46] :P [16:46] You can recompile it manually from the source branch of a Slackware mirror. [16:46] i tried [16:46] Your are running -current so that shoulkd not be to hard for you. [16:46] godlin: second time I've received a "Hulu desktop has encountered a server verification error and will now close" though [16:46] brb [16:46] why wait on some lazy guy who can't be bothered? ;P [16:46] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [16:46] One of the files will be the Slackbuild. [16:47] quitting irc to rebuild xchat? [16:47] pfft [16:48] alisonken1home: I wonder how long I can go without Hulu before I explode. Has this experiment ever been performed on an American? :O [16:48] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.76.184) joined ##slackware. [16:49] NO TV! [16:49] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:49] ok [16:49] i'm with current now [16:50] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left ##slackware. [16:50] without ntpd i would be so fucked [16:50] it would be drifting 5 minutes too early every day [16:50] that's a large drift [16:51] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:51] ^MAssEy^ (i=1000@90.149.76.181) joined ##slackware. [16:51] i download xchat.tar.bz2 and the slackbuild [16:51] yeah it is mancha [16:52] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [16:52] i don't think my CMOS battery is depleted since running 2 fast is not something i would do if i would be tired [16:52] i did chmod +x to the slackbuild [16:52] now i will do ./slackbuild [16:52] ok? [16:52] so god bless openbsd's ntpd [16:52] mancha: good god, this openshot program is turning into a pita to build. [16:52] as root Alt_of_Ctrl [16:53] goarilla, as root yes [16:53] as xgizzmo so eloquently said earlier, since you're on -current you should know all this [16:53] Alt_of_Ctrl: you never read the howto on slackbuilds.org? [16:53] thumbs, yeah [16:53] yeah go ahead make sure your /tmp is either executable from or TMP is set to a directory that is on an executable volume [16:53] Alt_of_Ctrl: then why are you asking those questions? [16:53] -curent is meant for people who know their way around linux and slack in particular [16:53] thumbs, because a tried to build xchat and i didnt work [16:54] like now [16:54] agentc0re, hrmm, how come? deps or otherwise? [16:54] lol current haven't been on that for quite a few years [16:54] it was 2 much work :D imho [16:55] linXea (n=slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: "Leaving" [16:55] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.11) joined ##slackware. [16:55] but it was generally stable although it was before the HAL/DBUS/UDEV debacles [16:55] jajjax (n=jajjax@ua-83-227-220-12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [16:55] mancha: ya, quite a few. some aren't on SBo so i've built like 4 packages. gah... and now i need some gnome crap.. GooCanvas. blah. [16:55] this is my result of rebuilding xchat http://pastebin.com/m42589585 [16:55] an error [16:55] lmao2k (n=nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:55] hello all, i just installed slackware but when i type "startx" result is "no screens found" [16:56] is missing any dependencie for xchat? [16:56] X -configure then look at /root/xorg.conf.new and see if you like it jajjax [16:56] Axius (n=oijhif@92.85.218.23) left irc: "Leaving" [16:56] if it works good move it in to /etc/X11/xorg.conf [16:57] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn47.78-99-109.t-com.sk) left ##slackware ("good night"). [16:57] xchat have any dependencies? [16:57] matu (n=matu@client80-83-41-117.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [16:58] Pig_Pen: configuration failed [16:58] did you do a complete install? (not leave out any packages?) [16:58] humm [16:58] complete... [16:59] Pig_Pen: what's the advantage over xorgsetup? [16:59] not sure [16:59] try both and see what you like better caoliver [17:00] be sure to save your good xorg.conf before doing something like that [17:00] I thought that X -configure was run as part of xorgsetup, and 'setup filled in a few more pieces. [17:00] gnomecanvas [17:00] ? [17:00] Alt_of_Ctrl: did you also inlcude the patches directory in your build ? [17:00] Scuzz, no [17:00] i think i soon give up and run fedora or opensuse instead [17:01] do so [17:01] so much fight i had on this computer xD [17:02] seems it doesnt like slack [17:02] What is the video card/controller? [17:02] Seems odd. [17:02] computers have no sense of like or dislike. [17:02] Scuzz, tks [17:02] maybe you don't like your computer! [17:02] it worked [17:03] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-186.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:03] godling: im joking :P [17:03] so am I! [17:03] its nvidia [17:03] Like ::= somehow mismatches default assumptions of install. [17:03] s/Like/Dislike/ [17:03] Gah! [17:03] brb [17:03] i hope so [17:03] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [17:04] That may be part. WIth my NV boxes, I've wound up running NVidia's blob. [17:04] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [17:04] i use nvidia's driver, does much better than xorg's generic nv driver [17:05] where do i Install1 python modules? [17:05] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-73-140.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [17:06] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. 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[17:13] lady next door is a horrible singer and she is outside belting out "Breakfast at Tiffany's" with an untuned guitar and voice. [17:13] So...I turned on my shop vac which is idling nicely in the driveway right now [17:13] antiwire: is she hot? [17:13] no [17:14] maybe I don't know. I can't see past the horrible song [17:14] van (n=van@188.4.165.190.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:14] Camarade_Tux: re [17:14] Camarade_Tux: do we have in slackware package with gnutls ? [17:14] antiwire: LOL [17:15] antiwire: turn the shopvac from SUCK to BLOW and throw some water her way. :P [17:15] I think she wants me to test the idling of my gas blower, lawn mower and weed eater too [17:15] Besure to use the Schwartz as well. [17:15] esteeven (n=esteeven@82-32-107-213.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:15] muahhaha [17:16] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:17] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:17] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:18] Is this a frequent behavior of hers? [17:20] van__ (n=van@188.4.169.35.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:21] yes [17:21] all the time [17:21] I'm going to fedex her a digital tunner [17:21] anonymously [17:22] oye (n=oye@84.120.132.229.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: [17:22] You have my complete sympathy. [17:23] v4nelle (n=van@79.103.87.141.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:23] antiwire: you could just phone/go over and ask her to keep it down ;) [17:23] or have you already? [17:23] I hate disrespectful neighbors [17:24] She doesn't listen or care. [17:24] that sucks [17:24] sirslacker (i=1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [17:24] The only option is to persuade her to be on one of those who wants to me a rockstar shows so she can be crushed [17:25] then it might stop [17:25] sirslacker (i=1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Client Quit [17:25] is the object to make her stop or make her feel bad about herself? :P [17:25] sometimes one requires the other. [17:25] Is both not an option? [17:26] lol [17:26] hah :P [17:26] some people exude such warmth even over irc [17:26] ;) [17:27] For the first year I tried to pretend it was okay. I really tried to give it the benefit of the doubt. [17:27] Having been assaulted by bad singing on any number of occasions, I can understand the "warmth." [17:28] you can't do that antiwire, not without it grating on your nerves. it's like you think it's ok but it's really not at all [17:29] by the tiem the blood is on your hands it's too late ;P [17:29] That's why I'm being all passive arggo with the shop vac [17:29] no blood [17:29] van_ (n=van@79.103.155.156.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Success [17:30] kozandr (n=kozandr@213.79.108.39) joined ##slackware. [17:30] I can't do passive aggressive anymore. [17:30] too much drama [17:32] dfrank (n=dfrank@188.134.8.110) joined ##slackware. [17:33] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: "Leaving." [17:33] dear All, help please.. I trying install Slackware 13 on HP Mini-Note, and linux can't find my HDD! What should i do, maybe you tell me anything.. [17:35] gm152_ (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:35] dear All, help please.. I trying install Slackware 13 on HP Mini-Note, and linux can't find my HDD! What should i do, maybe you tell me anything.. [17:35] stop it [17:35] gm152_ (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:36] Explain "can't find." [17:37] It this during install? [17:37] IS not IT. [17:37] van (n=van@188.4.165.190.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:37] caoliver: there's no device in /dev that would be a HDD. Only /dev/sda that are flash drive with distro [17:38] Ok. What storage devices are on this machine? [17:38] now she's screaming as loud as she can [17:38] this is awesome. [17:38] the shop vac is working [17:39] If the drive is a SATA it will be a /dev/sd* [17:39] shes an attention whore [17:39] caoliver: just SATA HDD and flash drive with Slack distribution [17:39] van__ (n=van@188.4.169.35.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:39] pirving (n=jd@pool-72-73-124-19.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [17:39] Pig_Pen: yep, 100% [17:39] hah [17:39] what a cunt [17:39] Actually, it you're using libata, the patas come up as sd* as well. [17:39] antiwire: maybe she *likes* you [17:40] ;P [17:40] Eeek! Perish the thought1 [17:40] gm150 (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:40] and she wants to have your baby antiwire [17:40] XGizzmo: "ls /dev | grep sd" returns "ptysd sda ttysd". sda is flash drive, not hdd [17:40] fdisk -l ? [17:40] Try cat /proc/partitions [17:41] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.215.107.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:41] thrice`: "fdisk -l" returns only /dev/sda: 4127 Mb [17:41] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:41] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:41] she's frustrated that the shop vac sounds better [17:42] What do you have in /proc/partitions? [17:42] \The shop vac can hold a note. [17:42] it sees your disk, no partitions on it [17:42] caoliver: lol [17:42] caoliver: "cat /proc/partitions" also returns sda only [17:42] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.215.107.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [17:42] Ok. [17:42] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.215.107.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:43] Pig_Pen: when i mounting /dev/sda to a temporary dir, i see that it is my flash with distro [17:43] I'm assuming you're running the initial boot from CD. [17:43] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Client Quit [17:43] 4127 mb, 4 gig disk? that sound right to you? [17:43] I.e. a busybox with a few tools. [17:43] ah [17:43] I was going to say [17:43] *tiny* [17:43] Tht used to be HUGE! [17:44] Pig_Pen: yes, my flash disk is 4Gb. I have write Slack DVD onto it [17:44] I know! [17:44] my first PC back in the 1990's had a six gig disk [17:44] hah [17:44] my first pc had a 300 mb disk [17:44] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [17:44] well, first intel architecture [17:44] My first slackware box had 16MB RAM and a whopping 420MB disk. [17:44] caoliver: i just wrote Slack DVD iso on flash drive [17:44] first computer was a coco2 [17:44] so no hd [17:45] So the 4G we're seeing is a thumbdrive. [17:45] you dd'd the whole DVD to a USB stick? [17:45] my first PC was a gateway with win98 on it [17:45] caoliver: yes, a thumbdrive [17:45] Ok. [17:46] was a time when a 20 meg HD was a big deal [17:46] antiwire: yes, using this ptogram http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ [17:46] what was on that disk when you bought it caoliver ? win# [17:46] Win 3.11 [17:46] InspectorCluseau: yes I had a 10MB drive once [17:46] it was freaking HUGE [17:46] 3.11 lordy! [17:46] I mean physically [17:46] I had a 5 meg full height once [17:46] hehe [17:46] yeah 3.1, 3.11 [17:47] Prior to that it was an Amiga with 4MB ram and two 30MB rll drives. [17:47] yay! [17:47] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [17:47] gm150 (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:47] er, I mean THAT'S HARDCORE! [17:48] And we're not going to mention the CP/M systems, or you'll know just how gray my hair is getting. [17:48] dfrank: can you just tell us exactly what you have going on with your system and what you have done so far so we don't need to guess? all at once with the pre field info. [17:48] 1.4 meg floppies were a big deal [17:48] 170k floppies were a big deal. [17:49] awesome! now the neighbors are yelling at her to stop too [17:49] Get off my lawn! [17:49] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-73-140.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [17:49] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:49] this is fscking great [17:49] Ha! [17:49] antiwire: some weird power of suggestion thing? [17:49] she's just yelling song lyrics now. she's pissed [17:49] not even sining [17:49] singing* [17:49] nv4Phil (n=phil@c-76-22-255-38.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:49] call the popo [17:50] obviously sinning! [17:50] ... against the spirit on music. [17:50] I will if keeps it up after the sun goes down [17:50] antiwire: what she look like? she sounds like a goth that cuts herself [17:50] gm152 (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:50] on --> of [17:50] fuck that, do it now [17:50] antiwire: i just wrote Slack DVD distro *.iso on flash using this utility http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ , after this, i booted from this flashdrive on my notebook, and trying to set up linux partitions on it. And, at this point, i can't find HDD device in the system, so, i can't continue with installation :) [17:50] she's deliberately antagonizing the situation [17:50] :) [17:50] so she wants attention [17:50] the cops will give her al lhte attention she wants :D [17:50] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.75.164) joined ##slackware. [17:50] question. A friend loaned me his iPod... I'd like to download the music from it, to my hard drive... how do I get slackware 13 to see the ipod? (how would I mount it? what /dev/ node is it?) [17:51] gm152 (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:51] rbellamy (n=rbellamy@adsl-68-127-138-161.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:51] when she sees us come one she gets louder too, since it's a "audience" [17:51] little does she know that anyone who is not her friend thinks she sucks [17:51] rbellamy (n=rbellamy@adsl-68-127-138-161.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:51] anonymously send her some sex toys maybe a big rubber toy will shut her up for a while :D [17:51] ach! drama! just call the cops or shoot the bitch yourself. :) [17:51] I wish there was an easy way for you to put the output of dmesg on pastebin, but I suspect that will be very hard. [17:51] gm152 (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:52] pastebinit or something [17:52] It sounds as if your disk controller isn't being seen. [17:52] huh huh [17:53] I'm so used to disks being hooked up to something obvious like some Intel southbridge, that this throws me for a loop. [17:53] ComputerNoobie (n=peter@adsl-69-110-12-97.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:53] nv4Phil, plug it in a usb port and HAL should see it ... or look at /var/log/messages [17:53] I forget, does the initial boot env have lspci? [17:54] nv4Phil: you might install libgpod and gtkpod too [17:54] from the DVD ? I think it does [17:54] Hang a sec, let me try booting slack13 on a vm. [17:55] caoliver: it does [17:55] substancev (i=47bb47f2@gateway/web/freenode/x-qrvhlmzwjekwmmyr) left irc: "Page closed" [17:55] caoliver: yes, i can't send you dmesg.. [17:56] hrm. I was hoping for something quick, I'm at church lol. I've got like 10 minutes :/ [17:56] bummer [17:56] telperion (n=Adium@190.156.15.83) joined ##slackware. [17:56] caoliver: i have lspci [17:56] dfrank: Look through 'lspci -v|less' [17:56] /var/log/messages lists it, but doesn't list a node (is that what it's called) [17:56] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [17:57] Oh... first, what CPU is this running? [17:57] I don't know that machine at all. It sounds like a netbook of some sort. [17:57] nv4Phil, look at /media after plugging it in [17:58] InspectorCluseau: no change before and after [17:58] caoliver: it is netbook, yes. http://www.thg.ru/mobile/hp_mininote_2133/index.html [17:58] nv4Phil, it's on one of the choices in /media [17:59] caoliver: lspci returns a lot of devices, but no storage devices [17:59] dfrank: Are you seeing any line beginning with 'IDE interface?" [17:59] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:59] telperion (n=Adium@190.156.15.83) left ##slackware. [18:00] telperion (n=Adium@190.156.15.83) joined ##slackware. [18:00] caoliver: yes, IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. Device 5372 (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP]) [18:00] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:00] tells me they aren't block devices when I try to mount them [18:01] Ok. What do we know about this controller in the context of the 2.6.29.6 kernel? [18:01] I can't stand that I don't like already know this stuff...heh [18:01] SweetyBabbyy (i=mr-p@41.236.13.140) joined ##slackware. [18:01] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [18:02] caoliver: hmm.. [18:03] Hang a sec. I'm looking for kernel config options. [18:03] nv4Phil: I think amarok should be able to access your ipod [18:06] Ok. Look through 'dmesg|less' and tell me if you see some messages about the disk controller? [18:08] I need to make some rice before I fall over. [18:08] Skywise (n=noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:08] Skywise (n=noneya@dsl092-165-068.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [18:08] rice wine [18:08] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:08] kill 2 birds with one stone. [18:08] Pork fried rice for a veeerrrrrryyy late lunch. 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[18:22] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) left irc: Client Quit [18:22] dfrank (n=dfrank@188.134.8.110) left irc: [18:24] freelibrary (n=notRoot@e176092031.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [18:25] alienBOB: I'll try that... sorry for the delay, we're eatin' [18:27] packeteer (n=zed@203.36.227.227) joined ##slackware. [18:28] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host62.201-252-217.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [18:28] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host62.201-252-217.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Client Quit [18:28] alienBOB, fyi, you uploaded 2 PyQt packages for 4.3.90 - on purpose? :) [18:29] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) joined ##slackware. [18:29] Dumbix (n=ence@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:29] good afternoon ## [18:29] acidchild: sdup man [18:29] acidchild: you needed something earlier? [18:29] nope. [18:30] oh ok [18:30] Action: Dominian was hilighted hehe [18:30] hehe yeah. i was gonna show you [18:30] ahh [18:30] something, but i started rewriting the program so its unfuctional atm [18:30] lol ;/ guess svn has a use. [18:30] Dumbix (n=ence@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [18:31] lol [18:31] git ftw [18:31] :P [18:31] yeah :-P [18:31] thrice`: thanks, removed [18:32] alienBOB, sure, figured it was a mistake :) [18:34] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [18:34] Dumbix (n=ence@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:35] Dumbix (n=ence@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [18:35] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. 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[18:45] Seem to have problem with sound. alsamixer keeps showing me some sort of USB device [18:46] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:47] cacao74 (n=cacao74@host-62-10-43-75.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) left irc: "Leaving." [18:47] It says, "Chip: USB Mixer" [18:48] and "Card: USB Device 0x46d:0x8ce" [18:48] Hmm.. Where can I obtain ffmpeg-mksrctarball.sh? It's not in the 13.0 slackbuild like it says (or 12.2) [18:48] Has anyone gotten the mixer for Intel's G45 DEVCTG (ICH9) sound device, to show all the controls. (Headphones for instance?) [18:49] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:50] caoliver: think I have that on my notebook.. lemme check real quick [18:51] caoliver: ah.. ICH7 not 9.. nevermind.. [18:51] http://imagebin.org/79278 here is my alsamixer showing headphones [18:51] Action: caoliver sighs! [18:51] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [18:51] Evidently, that is in ALSA's "manyana" pile. [18:52] dunix (n=dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. [18:52] caoliver: I recall it not always showing everything either.. had to upgrade alsa drivers a few times in the past [18:52] I've got 1.0.22.1, and there are no newer releases. [18:52] Wescotte: http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/12.1/multimedia/ffmpeg/ffmpeg-mksrctarball.sh [18:52] Welcome to the insanity of the intel_hda audio family. [18:52] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:53] Action: caoliver sighs again. [18:53] XGizzmo: hah thanks! Dunno why I didn't try that :) [18:55] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [18:55] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:56] can (n=can@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:56] _abc_ (n=no@unaffiliated/ccbbaa) joined ##slackware. [18:56] <_abc_> hello [18:57] <_abc_> anyone here ? [18:57] <_abc_> i mean awake ? [18:57] no, we're all asleep [18:57] <_abc_> i have a problem, i installed a stock 13.0 kernel (-i468 not smp) and now i would like to insmod 8021q.ko but that fails. [18:58] <_abc_> i do not want to recompile the kernel, this is a substadard machine & ssh & other pain [18:58] <_abc_> i was under the strong impression 802.11q was compiled in [18:58] <_abc_> yet i get this: [18:58] <_abc_> insmod 8021q.ko [18:58] <_abc_> insmod: error inserting '8021q.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module [18:58] <_abc_> any ideas ? [18:59] modinfo 8021q.ko [18:59] <_abc_> hmm ? [19:00] is that the HUGE kernel? maybe it's =y and not =m? [19:00] <_abc_> no it's the normal kernel [19:00] <_abc_> -i486 [19:01] <_abc_> Wescotte: it's not =y because vlanconf refuses to run, complains about the module [19:01] <_abc_> could someone try this out ? [19:02] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:02] <_abc_> and the module does not depend on anything [19:02] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:02] <_abc_> acc. modinfo [19:02] <_abc_> any hints would be helpful [19:04] <_abc_> AARGH the module shipped with slackware depends on garp [19:04] <_abc_> the one i have on debian does not [19:04] <_abc_> note to self: always test the actual file. *nix != *nix [19:04] <_abc_> thanks the modinfo helped [19:06] hit the enter key more often, thnx [19:06] <_abc_> and garp depends on stp [19:06] _abc_: And you want to be using modprobe not instmod. [19:06] <_abc_> i am done, sorry [19:06] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] telperion (n=Adium@190.156.15.83) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:07] can (n=can@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [19:08] Having a problem with sound. Alsamixer shows, "Card: USB Device 0x46d:0x8ce" [19:08] and Chip: USB Mixer [19:09] How do I get rid of this USB Device? [19:09] can: Sounds like that might be a webcam with a mic. [19:09] XGizzmo: I do have a webcam hooked up to it. [19:10] Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Pro 5000 [19:10] Is it incompatable? [19:10] The mic is a separate mic, just run of the mill mic "micro" something or other. [19:11] XGizzmo: Is there some way to make all this work? [19:11] or do I need to unplug the cam? [19:11] unplug it and run alsaconf [19:12] telperion (n=Adium@190.156.15.83) joined ##slackware. [19:12] telperion (n=Adium@190.156.15.83) left ##slackware. [19:12] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:13] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [19:14] tavl (n=tavl@189.70.173.132) joined ##slackware. [19:14] alisonken1hom2 (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:15] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:16] SweetyBabbyy (i=mr-p@41.236.13.140) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:16] XGizzmo: I did as you said and tried to play /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup_new.wav and got error [19:16] XGizzmo: Is there some way to make all this work? [19:16] can't open output file `default': snd_pcm_open error: No such file or directorycan't open output file `default': snd_pcm_open error: No such file or directory [19:17] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [19:17] can: try /etc/rc.d/rc.alsa restart [19:17] Something's wrong here. the line just above "Is there some way to make all this work" I didn't type that... [19:18] Still getting same error [19:18] the last line in /var/log/messages right now is: [19:19] darkstar kernel: generic-usb 0003:413C:2003.0002: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [Dell Dell USB Keyboard] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-1/input0 [19:19] ahh there is not restart option but it didnt not hurt anything it was just ignored [19:19] XGizzmo: Maybe I should get rid of this USB keyboard too? [19:19] no [19:20] can: can you reboot? [19:20] Well, that may because I unpluged the keyboard by mistake when I was trying to unplug the webcam [19:20] XGizzmo: sure, I can reboot. [19:20] Should I? [19:21] yeah give that a shot/ [19:21] brb [19:21] can (n=can@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:22] JimBob42 (n=Username@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [19:23] JimBob42 (n=Username@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:23] _abc_ (n=no@unaffiliated/ccbbaa) left irc: "leaving" [19:24] JimBob42 (n=Username@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [19:24] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.46.44) joined ##slackware. [19:25] JimBob42 (n=Username@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:29] can (n=can@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [19:29] XGizzmo_: That fixed it.. [19:29] So what do I do with this webcam. [19:30] ? [19:30] Is it just in-compatable...? Or...? [19:31] have you installed sane/xsane? run xcam [19:31] Pig_Pen: Was that for me? [19:31] yeah [19:32] run xcam and see if it picks up your cam [19:32] JimBob42 (n=Username@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [19:32] Plug it in and run xcam? [19:32] JimBob42 (n=Username@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:32] yeah [19:32] Pig_Pen: Problem was with sound... [19:33] can: I think you can use it now without problems [19:33] nvision (n=nvision@e179134110.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [19:33] I don't understand it... but.. I guess I can plug it back in and see what happens. [19:34] If the webcam was plugged in when you ran alsaconf it was detected as your sound card. [19:34] Problem is, this is my sisters computer... (I built it for here). She lives in a neighboring town, I don't get over here all that often. [19:35] JimBob42 (n=Username@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [19:36] JimBob42 (n=Username@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:36] xcam says segmentation fault [19:36] jajjax (n=jajjax@ua-83-227-220-12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: "Leaving" [19:36] Maybe there is something wrong with the Logitec webcam? [19:36] pupiteee (n=p@93.86.159.210) joined ##slackware. [19:38] pupiteee (n=p@93.86.159.210) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:39] pupiteee (n=p@93.86.159.210) joined ##slackware. [19:39] JimBob42 (n=Username@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [19:39] or..? [19:40] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.156.109) joined ##slackware. [19:40] JimBob42 (n=Username@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:41] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:41] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [19:41] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-60.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:43] i know this is not a slackware issue, but i have finally fixed a touchpad on my asuseee pc/4g/surf whih runs on slack 13.0 :) [19:43] woohoo :D [19:44] JimBob42 (n=Username@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [19:45] pupiteee: congratulations! [19:45] pupiteee: what was the fix? [19:46] Where is the default location a kernel module will look for firmware files? (specifically IVTV) [19:46] i lifted up the keypad and the small flat cable was not in jack.... :) [19:46] lib/firmware? [19:46] the touchpad flat cable, thumbs [19:46] Wescotte: I think so. [19:46] JimBob42 (n=Username@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [19:47] pupiteee: hahaha. Nice. [19:47] pupiteee: glad you fixed it. [19:47] JimBob42 (n=Username@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [19:47] thumbs: yeah, it was a 6month hell, and a momentary relief when i saw it :D [19:48] i thought, it will never be fixed... :) [19:48] is that right: momentary? [19:48] :s [19:48] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [19:49] momenticarious in the king's english [19:49] mancha: ;) [19:50] ComputerNoobie (n=peter@adsl-69-110-12-97.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:50] :> [19:50] hi [19:50] a half-question: "kernels/*: Upgraded." -- it is upgraded when the kernels is upgraded right? [19:50] I think you may mean instant [19:50] that's not even a half question, i'd say 5-7% maybe [19:51] or immediate [19:51] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:51] not quite instant but immediate, yes... XGizzmo ;) [19:51] pupitee, momentary relief means it provided you relief for a bit, and then the relief passed. if you meant to say it was sudden relief when you saw it then immediate is better. [19:52] like preparation H gives momentary relief from [...] [19:52] however, things like prep H will market themselves as providing "immediate relief" which they might well do along with it being momentary [19:53] and this is related to slackware, how? you ask? heh [19:53] mancha: ok ok.... [19:54] i didnt ment to troll here, just my english is not native... [19:54] my* lol [19:54] no, your question was fine, my rambling about anal cream was what i was ridiculing [19:55] u know that scene, where tyler durden holds a gun on the end of the fight club? [19:55] yup. [20:01] you found a cable to your touchpad disconnected? did it come from the factory like that? [20:02] Pig_Pen: well i dont know, because, i bought it from my friend who didnt used it at all!!! [20:02] now you know why he did use it at all [20:02] he uses keypad to drive the mouse bcause it was easier [20:03] did not* use it at all [20:03] used* [20:03] no no, he is brilliant linux administrator, he did not needed the touchpad so often, he is mainly in bash [20:04] was it he who disconnected it? [20:04] That would be a sure way to disable the touchpad. [20:04] dont think so.. [20:06] i thought it too, was it from factory that hardware mistake... [20:07] who cares, it works. that mistakes are usual, no one to blame... [20:10] dunix (n=dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:10] can (n=can@63.149.173.1) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:13] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [20:16] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-60.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:17] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:18] Politics (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: [20:18] wow it is quiet tonight [20:18] everybody's system must be running fine. [20:19] mfillpot: i got dd-wrt installed on my router :-D [20:19] can (n=can@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [20:19] this is for slack not ubuntu, of course we are running fine, the only real problems I see in here are when someone decides to screw around with something [20:19] I think I'm on the wrong timezone. How do I change it? [20:19] Politics (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:19] fhobia: how are you liking the new firmware? [20:19] mfillpot: having a bit of trouble getting WEP working, but i like all these pretty graphs and stats :-P [20:20] can: tzconfig [20:20] Im supposed to be in USA Centeral but my clock is an hour ahead of what it should be [20:20] thumbs: Tnx [20:20] fhobia: why don't you just use wpa2 instead of wep? [20:20] tzconfig: command not found [20:20] mfillpot: i have a computer whose card is too old to support wpa at all [20:21] can: use pkgtool instead [20:21] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.82.197) joined ##slackware. [20:21] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-22-194.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:21] fhobia: what kind of issues are you having with wep then? [20:22] sirius (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [20:22] mfillpot: can't get wireless to work after enabling wep [20:22] mfillpot: trying again now [20:22] bye people [20:22] can: ah, it's tzselect now. [20:22] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:22] tzselect not tzconfig [20:22] yea.. got it. Tnx [20:22] can: or timexonfig [20:22] can: or timeconfig [20:23] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "leaving" [20:23] thumbs: I referred pkgtool instead because more people are comfortable with the ncurses menus [20:23] he can use apropos command to see [20:23] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [20:23] what is for time [20:24] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [20:24] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: Client Quit [20:24] apropos give way too many commands, 266 results on slackware64-current [20:24] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:24] yeah so i see :D [20:24] i used apropos timezone [20:25] apropos is a great tool, but it can be overwhelming to many [20:25] much better [20:25] using timezone is much better [20:26] stay good people, bye! :) [20:26] pupiteee (n=p@93.86.159.210) left irc: "Leaving." [20:26] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:27] I just got back from a 7 mile bike ride [20:27] and I surfed overhead surf for 2 hours today. sleep will be easy [20:28] antiwire: you are a very active person [20:28] guax (n=guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:28] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:28] gotta keep the heart and lungs working [20:28] and I am a lazy person [20:29] lol [20:29] mfillpot: A-OK now... can't wait to not have to unplug/plug my router all the time [20:29] what is your favorite form of exercise? [20:29] mfillpot: surfing [20:29] by far [20:29] fhobia: that is good, I was starting to fear the the router and comp were using different releases of the wep standards [20:30] antiwire: I have never even tried it, what part of moving along the top of water is it that fives you the rush? [20:30] s/fives/gives [20:30] not drowning is a rush [20:31] I used to do alot of white water rafting and mountain climbing, but alas were I live now we have neither [20:31] antiwire: I can see that [20:31] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-17-117.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:32] abarahc (n=abarahc@189.82.144.52) joined ##slackware. [20:32] I miss the rush of dodging rocks in a blown up raft [20:32] I will have to head back to CO sometime soon to do it again [20:32] I got sucked up over the top today though. It was medium to large surf today and a little bit unpredictable. I dropped into one that was about 4-5 feet over head and after a few turns it heaved up and tossed me. I didn't penetrate and got sucked up and around [20:33] algum br? [20:33] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:33] antiwire: nice, where do you do your surfing? [20:34] today I was 1 mile north of California street in ventura [20:34] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [20:34] at the river mouth [20:34] ah, in CA that explains the good tides [20:34] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [20:34] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:36] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [20:37] antiwire, nullboy? [20:37] who's nullboy? [20:37] I heard he died in a fire [20:37] antiwire, he lives in ventura... [20:38] a slacker? in my town? [20:38] do quakes help the swell? [20:38] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [20:38] mancha: not so much here [20:38] freelibrary (n=notRoot@85.183.133.34) joined ##slackware. [20:38] I haven't seen him in hear in a good while. unless he changed his nick. [20:38] and stopped going on ##slackware after we laughed at him for getting rejected by a girl [20:38] here* [20:38] abarahc (n=abarahc@189.82.144.52) left ##slackware. [20:38] antiwire, but, yes [20:38] our quakes usually happen inland [20:38] but he surfs a lot in ventura, i know that [20:39] but that last quake that caused a tsunami (few months ago?) made a hardly noticeable tsunami here [20:39] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:39] edman007: so he really *DID* die in a fire? lol [20:39] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.156.109) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [20:40] dunno, i have not talked to him in years...he use to be on here every day [20:40] I have not seen him or old_fogey in a very long time. [20:40] JimBob42 (n=Username@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:41] wow, you guys are bringing up old names [20:41] I hear about Mr. Fogey often [20:41] yes, they departed abruptly. [20:41] antiwire: mr fogey is a different person i think [20:41] antiwire, yea, what happened to him? [20:41] two different people? [20:41] mrselfpwn, probably, too much laughing at his age [20:41] can (n=can@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:42] I always wonder about people with nicks like that; are they really old or is it a joke? [20:42] I'm pretty sure, because i thought it was him once and Mr. Fogey had no clue what I was talking about. [20:42] antiwire, not that old...i think 40s or 50s for him... [20:42] Well I did, finally, meet another Linux person in this town [20:42] where's the lovely and smart missyjane? [20:43] a gy who uses Debian [20:43] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-22-194.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:43] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [20:43] guy* [20:43] antiwire, anyways, you are in CA? [20:43] I'm in CA [20:43] I surf all over too [20:43] from SLO to HB [20:43] I think godling is in CA too [20:43] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:43] and jeev [20:43] I get to spend like 3-4 days in Huntington beach area, are you in that area? [20:44] like 25-28 or so... [20:44] Nope, but I surf there during the summer. It's decent [20:44] that' where they have the op prop thing, no? [20:44] only my second time to CA.. [20:44] but this time i don't pay, yay [20:45] Oh you'll pay. It's CA...you'll pay dearly [20:45] *op pro [20:45] mancha: yeah [20:45] at the pier [20:45] HB has loads of contests. I avoid them [20:45] Earthquake hysteria going on in CA? [20:46] there's no hysteria [20:46] were you close? [20:46] you pick up all your broken dishes and keep trucking [20:46] For this last quake I am too far south to feel [20:46] antiwire, better not be a quake [20:46] I'm glad your ok [20:46] antiwire, soul_keeper felt it, lol [20:47] where is soul_keeper? [20:47] #slamd64 [20:47] he must be further north than me [20:47] I think people in CA fear the taxs more than the earthquakes. [20:47] oh, city...uhh...southern CA... [20:47] XGizzmo: indded [20:47] ee [20:48] LA county is near 10% sales tax alone [20:48] Tijuana [20:48] the car tax went up too [20:48] antiwire, ow [20:48] over here it is like 8.7ish [20:48] so bad :( [20:49] Well here in Maine it's quite cold for everyone and the taxes aren't doing much better here [20:50] The weather here is the only saving grace of California [20:50] warm weather + beach = high taxes [20:50] My best friend just took a flight to CA to get a job programming C [20:51] It's so nice right now that the girls are all still dressed for spring [20:51] antiwire, the weather over there should be a crime.. [20:51] it's barely legal [20:51] well 5 rain drops hit my windshield last night though [20:51] Yes, I've decided it is a good place to vacation. [20:52] I walked out of the store and I thought a bird had crapped on me but it was rain! [20:52] antiwire, 'Windchill: 24 °F' [20:52] Standing there going "OMG WTF is this" [20:52] that is me, how about you? [20:53] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:53] 60°F | °CCurrent: Clear Wind: NW at 5 mph Humidity: 83% [20:53] wtf [20:53] it was warmer earlier though [20:53] probably hit 72 [20:54] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:54] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [20:54] I had to take of my sweater today [20:54] 17°F | Clear Wind: SW at 5 mph [20:54] lol... 29 here [20:54] antiwire, good thing i get to spend a few days in CA then [20:55] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [20:55] i got one day in DC next week, says it will be 45' over there! [20:55] does anyone knows how one can test if the hardware supports HPET (via hpet=force kernel boot option) [20:55] We take the weather for granted here [20:57] freelibrary (n=notRoot@85.183.133.34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:57] freelibrary (n=notRoot@e176092031.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [20:58] I'm curious how many people read the logs on this channel. [20:59] edman007: currently it's about 25°F in DC [20:59] thats a new thing isn't it. How long has this channel been logging? Years? [20:59] higuita: by what I got from the web it is called rtc in linux and you should be able to track if it is used using "lsmod|grep rtc" [20:59] pirving: I do [20:59] I'm curious, who maintains the SlackBuild inside fglrx? [20:59] sitwon, i'll be there wendsday... [21:00] I should be reading the logs [21:00] NaCl: which slackbuild are you referring to? [21:00] I could learn a lot of information [21:01] mfillpot: the one *inside* the ati-linux driver tarball [21:01] NaCl: I'm guessing some internal developer... they don't share their code [21:01] mfillpot: actually there is a option gor hpet=force (without it, the kernel reports that HPET is disable in bios, to use hpet=force in boot option) [21:01] I've looked at it. [21:01] pirving: the only log extract you need to read is noobfarm [21:01] sitwon: I have two different versions of it. [21:02] it seens to work, by problem is to know if is really working fine or if it gives problems later [21:02] versions = compiled for different kernels [21:02] mfillpot: Nice [21:02] pirving: I love going through those logs [21:03] I'm hoping that eventually the free radeon driver will catch up and we won't need fglrx anymore [21:03] ATI dropped support for my card back in Feb and the free driver is buggy :( [21:04] sitwon: which card? [21:04] X1400 [21:05] Oh. :/ [21:05] jsut get an nvidia and be done with it [21:05] I am using fglrx right now. [21:05] Works fine [21:05] mfillpot: it's a laptop... :-/ [21:05] that makes it much more troublesome [21:06] I'm planning to get a pair of new ones to replace it though [21:06] am I the only one worried about kernel bloat? [21:06] sitwon: ATI has done their work well on fglrx. It works quite well. [21:07] Well... except that Xinerama isn't that great [21:07] NaCl: yea, but my card isn't supported anymore, I'd have to downgrade my kernel and use an older driver [21:07] jg71 (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:07] jg71 (n=edud@76.74.129.199) joined ##slackware. [21:07] sitwon: sorry. :/ [21:08] eventually I'll get an X301 which has an Intel chip [21:08] I think I am the only one worried. [21:08] and a M17x w/ dual GTX280 [21:08] it's hard to like companies that stop worrying about supporting their older hw [21:08] but that one won't be running Slackware [21:09] it can't be all that hard for ati programmers to maintain forward and backware compat [21:10] hello, xorg does it [21:10] I'm just a pansy because I have always installed slackware on a dell stock intergrated everything just works [21:10] flash makes me angry though [21:10] mancha: I'm guessing they have a small, underpaid team of developers. And they simply don't want to support the older cards anymore [21:11] I'm using a D620 which has an Intel 945GM graphics setup but my D630 is coming tomorrow which has a Quadro NVS135 [21:11] will be much better for 3D [21:11] I'll spare you all the adobe rant [21:11] higuita: I have been looking around for hpet information and it is slow, but have you checked dmidecode to see if any of your hardware is displaying hpet flags? [21:11] antiwire: does the Quadro line perform well enough for gaming? [21:11] yep [21:12] google earth, openarea, wine'd games [21:12] it works [21:12] openarena* [21:12] is it the 1500 [21:12] + [21:12] usd version [21:13] the D630? [21:13] antiwire: have you run anything more demanding than OpenArena? [21:13] whatever model is some crazy figure [21:13] I snagged it for 350 off ebay, fully loaded [21:13] hehe [21:13] sitwon: I don't really have anything more demanding [21:13] Other than GE [21:15] My X1400 couldn't handle UT2k4 at 1400x1050. Do you think the NVS135 would? [21:15] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:15] No idea [21:16] I've never played UT [21:16] not that demanding is it? [21:16] D= [21:16] i get 140fps or so in that [21:16] UT2k4 is my favorite game [21:16] lets play :D [21:16] i got installed [21:16] CcSsNET: what card do you have? [21:16] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.46.44) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:17] 4670 1gb ddr3 iceq cooler [21:17] my res is only 1024/768 [21:17] keeping it ol school XD [21:18] yea, I can get 60FPS at 1024x768 w/ the X1400 [21:18] nice [21:18] lets do it [21:18] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [21:18] ok [21:18] you have a server in mind? [21:18] eh not particularly [21:19] but i irc from a difrent pc so all is good on chat here [21:20] I could host if I poke holes in my router, do you remember what the port numbers are? [21:20] eh not sure booting now just put in the cd [21:23] ok loaded here name a server we join :D [21:23] Hyena (n=Hyaenida@lain.mystydragon.com) joined ##slackware. [21:24] hypersteveo-sdigitalspam has 8 people of 10 and 100ping [21:24] eh nvm [21:24] i dont have stats enabled [21:24] ok u host one and no stats :P [21:24] Hyena (n=Hyaenida@lain.mystydragon.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:26] ok, one sec [21:30] nv4Phil (n=phil@c-76-22-255-38.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:33] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:36] CcSsNET: server should be up now, my ip: wisard.no-ip.com [21:37] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:29) joined ##slackware. [21:38] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [21:38] k 1 sec [21:38] glarb (i=1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:38] pprkut: is this acceptable? ./ffmpeg.SlackBuild AMRNB=yes AMRWB=yes DC1394=yes DIRAC=yes FAAC=yes FAAD=yes LAME=yes JP2=yes SCHROEDINGER=yes SPEEX=yes X264=yes XVID=yes [21:38] or does all that stuff need to go before the ./ ? [21:38] ugh very slow transfer rate [21:39] antiwire, before [21:39] sitwon 1% downloaded from u hehe [21:39] thrice`: thanks [21:41] After much patching of random libs and tools, I think ffmpeg is ready to build on -current [21:42] I should have set the goal higher [21:42] Xeliaa (i=Hyena@lain.mystydragon.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:42] lol [21:42] im not sure i can download from u way to slow [21:42] pick a standard map :P [21:43] sitwon: just spam "frame rate rape!!" [21:43] Kyle_S (n=kyle@75-28-191-23.lightspeed.edndil.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:43] hello. Hopefullyi not a silly question. [21:43] linoxman (n=colzani@187.5.181.246) joined ##slackware. [21:43] How do you kill a process that's hanging a shutdown? In this case it's trying to bring down the bond..and I've only got remote-kvm access to it, so I can't just hit the power button. [21:44] CcSsNET: new map up [21:44] bond? [21:45] linoxman (n=colzani@187.5.181.246) left irc: "Saindo" [21:45] mancha: as in bonded ethernet. [21:45] sitwon think im missing a patch? [21:45] i seem to be downloading from u regarless [21:45] you don't have the latest patch? [21:45] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:45] probably not just installed this week [21:45] this is Gael, a standard map [21:45] eh brb then [21:46] ^kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30CE7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [21:46] Anyone? Anyone? Kill a process when ctrl+x, ctrl-c, and ctrl-z all don't work? [21:46] pd [21:47] doublewhiskey (n=doublewh@71-213-238-40.cdrr.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:47] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:47] Kyle_S: what about 'kill -9'? [21:47] try ctrl-x-reset [21:47] reset? [21:48] sitwon, system is already trying to shutdown, can't ssh in, and can't login again. [21:48] Kyle_S: reset is the small button on the front of the case below the power button [21:48] sitwon: heh, no physical access, just a remote KVM. [21:48] ok i got ut2k4 megapack patch downloading [21:48] if a file is +x in /etc/rc.d should it just run on startup on it's own or is there something else specific you need to do? [21:48] maybe thatll do it [21:49] how'd you manage a microsoft windows type shutown problem on linux?!? [21:49] Kyle_S: then telnet to the UPS and power down the damn thing :) [21:49] Wescotte, you need to source it. my advice do this in rc.local [21:49] higuita: If only we didn't have a 12 year old UPS purchased on the cheap :) [21:49] mancha: ethernet bonding is awesome, but unfortunately some distros don't handle it cleanly. [21:49] CcSsNET: yea, hopefully that's it [21:49] mancha: source it? [21:49] fine, fine, phone to the power company!! ;) [21:49] run it [21:50] execute it [21:50] make it so, number 1 [21:50] etc [21:50] (the box is actually running CentOS, but that channel requires you to refister). [21:50] i think the latest patch is v3369 [21:51] higuita: I'd call and ask a security guard at work to hit the button, but that would be really dicey since the server in questin is in a rack with production equipment. [21:51] great so now ##slackware gets the lazy centos users? h0h0 [21:51] mancha: okay, that's what I thought but never heard "source it" term before.. [21:51] ok i got that downloading too [21:51] Kyle_S: you realize that CentOS != Slackware, right? [21:52] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.215.107.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:52] sitwon: Yes, and I also realize that CentOS sysadmins often don't understand the underlying OS as well. [21:52] Slackware does less handholding, so you have to know things better. [21:53] mancha, not lazy, just ones who don't irc anymore, and don't want to be tempted to. [21:53] their lack of understanding isn't our fault... [21:53] anyways... are you currently ssh'd into the system? [21:54] sitwon: nope, remote KVM to it. It's like sitting at it with a grainy CRT and a very slow to respond keyboard. [21:54] but you can't do a remote power-cycle? [21:55] ok i got 3369 now [21:55] sitwon: not that advanced sadly. Getting the boss to buy a remote kvm was a big step (previous sysadmin had been trying for years before I came in). [21:56] CcSsNET: ok, server should be up now [21:56] grr still downloading from u [21:57] ill just wait for mega pack [21:57] 30 mins or so [21:57] That's allright. Just figured that if there were folks around who would know, they'd likely be in this channel. [21:57] ech (n=Me@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: "Use the source, guy" [21:57] I wonder what it's trying to download... :-/ [21:58] Anyone know why X isn't recognizing my input devices after upgrading kernels in -current? [21:58] looked like lots of textures [21:58] s/isn't/wouldn't [21:58] Kyle_S: what state is the process in? [21:58] sahk0 (n=grbzks@ppp-94-68-144-219.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [21:58] whoops [21:59] NaCl: custom kernel or stock? If stock, my guess is something was moved to a module where it was bult-in before. [21:59] figured it out [21:59] ananke: Bringing down a network interface. In this case a bonded interface. [22:00] Kyle_S: 'state'. processes in unix world can be only in a few distinct states. ps shows that [22:00] it must be a zombie [22:00] ananke: can't tell. Not logged into the box, and there's no way to log in right now. I'm using a remote KVM to interact with the console. [22:00] not necessarily. if it was a zombie, he wouldn't see it [22:00] hmm [22:01] Kyle_S: your only hope in that case is magic sysrq [22:01] ananke: Sadly a kung-foo move I've not used before. I'll go read the docs :) [22:02] wikipedia has a decent article on it [22:02] kleanchap (n=kleancha@93.195.18.59) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [22:02] Raising Baby Elephants Is Utterly Boring? [22:02] Motoko-chan: but very rewarding. [22:02] I thought Sys-Rq was usually disabled these days? [22:03] ananke: Thanks. I'll /part now. Can't VPN and use other connections at the same time. [22:03] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [22:03] hcfd: I hope not :) [22:03] Fingers crossed man. [22:03] Heh, thanks [22:03] o/ [22:03] I'll need the luck. [22:03] Kyle_S (n=kyle@75-28-191-23.lightspeed.edndil.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. 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[22:11] Nick change: nemesys -> mrselfpwn [22:11] Wow , you can echo SysRq combos to /proc/sysrq-trigger, that's neat [22:11] If Kyle_S can't send SysRq via the KVM, he's in luck :) [22:12] BeZerk (n=MrEd@about/apple/iPod/BeZerk) got lost in the net-split. [22:12] K3yvn_Server (i=0@ip70-181-115-119.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:14] I just got a call from a nun who is freaking out that her Apple system can't talk to her printer. She's cool but the computer stuff flusters her a bit [22:14] since when do you deal with nun's? [22:15] Since when do nuns need IT support? They've got a direct line to God, surely. [22:15] Action: hcfd is just kidding [22:15] agentc0re: friend of a friend type of thing [22:16] She's not all nunned out though [22:17] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.75.164) left irc: Connection timed out [22:18] hcfd (n=fed@host86-140-249-96.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Damn - Exam Cram!" [22:20] I suppose I shoudl avoid the "get thee to a nunnery" jokes. Oops... I fail! [22:20] antiwire: those are always fun. Does she give you beer or something? ;) hehe. [22:20] sirius (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:20] she pays [22:21] See... those collection plates are useful things. [22:21] you know how I look at the world...it sure doesn't run off popping hearts and unicorns. [22:21] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.156.109) joined ##slackware. [22:21] Where are the kernel modules store? [22:21] /lib/modules/ [22:22] Thank you very much antiwire [22:22] :-) [22:22] ok patch is applying ill be logging in a sec [22:22] jdetring_ (n=jay@adsl-70-234-189-83.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:23] There is no userspace CPU Frequency Governor [22:23] :-( [22:23] hcfd (n=fed@host86-140-249-96.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [22:23] jdetring_ (n=jay@adsl-70-234-189-83.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:24] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [22:24] Delahunt (n=robert@fe219-115.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:26] son of a bitch [22:27] bitch of a son! [22:27] i shoulda put the crypto shit into the kernel (not modules) [22:27] Delahunt (n=robert@fe219-115.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [22:30] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:30] CcSsNET: that was fun, we should do it again sometime [22:30] little quickie [22:30] some nooner [22:31] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:32] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [22:33] that wasnt me [22:33] but i got a patch in [22:34] i can join ur game now [22:35] lolwut? then who was that? [22:35] idk [22:35] how did they find my server?!? [22:35] i spectated [22:35] haha [22:36] im trying to join now and its timming out [22:36] haha [22:37] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:37] paissad (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:37] nix_chix0r (n=hellokit@97-127-210-71.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [22:38] yea i cant join urs [22:38] ill just tell u which server i join [22:38] CcSsNET: well we're gonna have to do it anohter time. I have to finish up build tonight [22:38] so I can get paid tomorrow [22:38] k ttyl [22:38] hah [22:38] i wish i was paid to setup linux [22:39] you wouldn't want this gig. it's based on Ubuntu [22:39] that would be decent [22:39] better then centos [22:40] haha, that's true [22:42] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-68-196.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:45] telperion (n=Adium@190.156.15.83) left ##slackware. [22:45] K3yvn_Server (n=root@ip70-181-115-119.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:45] K3yvn_Server (n=root@ip70-181-115-119.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:45] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [22:46] Action: fhobia is running out of things to flash [22:46] sitwon: how many nodes are you setting up? [22:46] pssh needs updating, the version shipped with 13.0 is using depreciated bits of python [22:46] /usr/bin/pssh:16: DeprecationWarning: The popen2 module is deprecated. Use the subprocess module. import fcntl, os, popen2, pwd, select, signal, sys, threading, time [22:47] that dude joined and left before the root ban hit him [22:47] crazy [22:48] paissad (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [22:49] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) left irc: "Leaving" [22:49] caoliver: none. I'm building a customized bootable USB distro based on Ubuntu. [22:49] eeeeuuuuuwwww [22:49] sitwon: you feeling ok? [22:49] :P [22:50] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:50] Someone's hiring you to make a bootable stick? Odd! [22:52] caoliver: yea, they're convinced it's going to make them money [22:52] I'm making sure they pay me up front [22:53] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:56] K3yvn_ (i=0@ip70-181-115-119.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:56] K3yvn_ (i=0@ip70-181-115-119.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:56] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.156.109) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [22:57] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left ##slackware. 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[23:29] oh oh wait for the qualifier...ON SLACKWARE? [23:32] why use it ? [23:33] reason #1: I work for an employer which deploys hardware and software combinations which only support Internet Explorer. [23:34] LitesterB (n=Litester@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [23:35] had only ie6 running have not tested ie7 [23:35] aryr100: Do you have a write up that can guide me down the ie6 road? [23:36] but alien-bob put out a new build of wine [23:36] does anyone know how to tame xdg-open ? [23:36] as in, set the default friggin' browser that it uses [23:36] sorry was on old system [23:36] aryr100: I'm building the latest right now 1.1.36 [23:36] running slax64 with kde 4.4 [23:38] urthwrm (n=hooch@unaffiliated/urthwrm) joined ##slackware. [23:39] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:40] try this [23:40] http://www.wine-reviews.net/wine-reviews/applications/ie-7-on-linux-with-wine.html [23:41] Yep, already reading that [23:41] Xeliaa (i=Hyena@lain.mystydragon.com) joined ##slackware. [23:42] aryr100 (n=aryr100@cpe-67-248-212-47.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [23:44] pirving (n=jd@pool-72-73-124-19.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:53] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-47.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:53] urthwrm (n=hooch@unaffiliated/urthwrm) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:54] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: "just to eat" [23:54] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.75.5) joined ##slackware. [23:58] Kamel (n=1@c-76-123-106-217.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: [00:00] --- Mon Jan 11 2010