[00:00] do we know who's bot? [00:00] alisonken1home: Ok, I will be afk to check the bios settings and stuff and I will back. Thank you [00:00] the bot's host might shed clues :) [00:00] mancha: ah :) [00:01] alisonken1home: And grettings from Chile, Slackware rulez!! [00:04] tarrito (1000@190.209.181.211) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [00:06] Bugz_ (~Bugz_@adsl-75-42-68-163.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:07] Bugz (~Bugz@adsl-75-42-68-163.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:08] tino27 (~tino27@static-63-131-73-63.ma.onecommunications.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:10] rheault (~rheault@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:10] Bugz (~Bugz@75.42.68.163) joined ##slackware. [00:11] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:11] Bugz_ (~Bugz_@adsl-75-42-68-163.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:17] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [00:18] rworkman, it dosn't look like this installer script contains those arguments [00:18] at least not in the stable release [00:19] --text Select plaintext user interface [00:19] --unattended Ask no questions [00:19] --quiet Ask no questions and don't show progress (implies --text) [00:19] Channel flood from daidoji -- kicking [00:19] --user Install for the current user (into ~/.local) [00:19] --system Install for everybody (into /usr/local) [00:19] daidoji kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [00:19] daidoji (~daidoji@c-24-6-0-247.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:19] oops [00:20] tarrito (1000@190.209.181.211) joined ##slackware. [00:20] sorry [00:20] Hi again [00:20] hey [00:21] i guess they give the nerfed version of the installer in the stable script [00:21] I guess I could try jimmying around with this beta installer script they use... 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[00:21] alisonken1home: With your clue about jumper settings my problem was solved [00:22] artaud_ (~artaud@187.59.242.42) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:22] tarrito: excellent [00:22] alisonken1home: Since Slack 13 have not problems about that disk I assumed that the problem was in the soft [00:24] alisonken1home: but with your clue I return to the surfing and made a search more specific and I found a 33.8 limitation included in some hard disks to prevent trubles with old boards [00:24] tarrito: google works when you have the right questions :) [00:25] Yeah, I feel so noob :( [00:25] too much asumptions, I think [00:26] but for some reason that limitation doesn't affect Slackware 13 disk rcognition [00:26] ide v. scsi command sets I believe [00:26] yeah [00:27] well, I repeat sorry for my bad english and thank you very much for your help [00:27] np [00:28] I will continue with the installation, C ya [00:29] tarrito (1000@190.209.181.211) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [00:31] Arirang_ (47ece53e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.229.62) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [00:32] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [00:32] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:34] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.48.212.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:37] well thats what i get for trying my own thing [00:38] o wait!! [00:38] they fixed it [00:38] ... kinda [00:39] o no wait [00:39] they did fix it!! [00:39] troy_ (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [00:39] damn not everything though [00:39] still can't open links by clicking on WSJ [00:39] :-( and they were so close [00:41] at least they fixed the java/flash plugin issues [00:43] fire|bird: stop hilighting me. thats like the second time in the past week. i cant take these dissapointments for much longer [00:44] nooper, haha, I'm sorry. :) I don't mean too, I don't even recall hitting tab to complete to a nick, but I must have. [00:44] highlighting? [00:45] troy_ (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [00:46] masterBIGwilly (~masterBIG@CPE-70-92-9-180.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [00:48] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:50] I wonder if something like snooper would cause disappointment too. [00:50] Action: nooper stomps on rworkman [00:51] Apparently so. I used to highlight "workman" until people started mentioning NetworkManager often. [00:53] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@static-200-105-*.acelerate.net expired. [00:53] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@static-200-105-*.acelerate.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [00:55] troy_ (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [00:55] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [00:56] Any vim user around here? [00:56] yep [00:57] 4life [00:57] If I do some pattern replace the pattern found remains in highlighted mode even after the operation [00:57] yep [00:57] How can I reset this highlighted mode? [00:57] I usually type /xxxxxx [00:57] a load of x's that I know don't exist [00:58] silly hack [00:58] Thank you dive [00:58] Thank you very much [00:58] I expect there's a proper way [00:58] I owe you a couple of beers! [00:58] asarch: add ":nmap :let &hlsearch=!&hlsearch" to .vimrc. then hit F3 to toggle hilight [00:59] Well, that was an intuitive sequence. [00:59] thats the one tip i really like from vim's web page [00:59] I mean, it's obvious now. :) [00:59] Thank you very much nooper [00:59] Thank you [00:59] I owe you some beers to you guys [01:06] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [01:07] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [01:08] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@cpe-68*.hvc.res.rr.com expired. 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[01:56] What causes the screen go to black in slackware when you try to start up a game ? [01:57] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [01:58] could be a lot of things, but if I had to guess I would say impropperly configured video settings or some such [01:58] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [01:58] anyone know if slackware64's mplayer uses "real 64bit codecs" [01:58] i "love" the quotes [01:59] And that would cause it to mess up on games but not on kde ? [02:01] I'm guessing standard atsc tv doesn't use those codecs anyway.. correct? or are they (#mplayer) talking about realplayer [02:01] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.235) joined ##slackware. [02:04] newslacker: yes, it could very easily [02:04] newslacker: 3d game? [02:05] its urban terror [02:07] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [02:08] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [02:09] probably [02:10] i think the laptop has a ati 200 m video card in it [02:11] killmsft: if the stream from the atsc signal is a/52 http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/audio/a52dec/ [02:11] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.30.9) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [02:12] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.30.64) joined ##slackware. [02:14] daidoji (~daidoji@c-24-6-0-247.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:15] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-79-158.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3 [02:17] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-79-158.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:17] newslacker: urban terror works fine for me. As soon as you launch the game, the screen goes blank and what happens after that? Can you use tty1-6 while the screen is blank? I'm guessing either wrong q3config.cfg settings for video card or your drivers for direct rendering (3D) aren't set up properly [02:19] yes i can switch to a console [02:19] just goes straight black in the x session [02:20] dmesg | grep -i drm [02:21] newslacker: launch the game from a terminal, switch over to a tty, kill the game process, and see what the terminal output says (might give some insight on what's not working) [02:23] newslacker: what video card do you have? [02:26] pete` (~user@008.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:27] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [02:30] ati radeon 200 m [02:30] state of the art! [02:37] redtricycle (~redtricyc@web75.webfaction.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:37] redtricycle (~redtricyc@web75.webfaction.com) joined ##slackware. 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[02:48] That means its parent process got killed forcefully or died unexpectedly without reaping its children. I'll take segfaults for $100, Alex. [02:49] hackeron (~hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:50] I have created some damned good salsa here. Just enough jalapeno to water my eyes with every bite :) [02:50] the true test of good hot salsa is if it stings twice [02:51] It won't. My GI system grinds up jalapeno peppers as if they were candy. [02:51] Habanero, on the other hand... [02:51] well if it don't sting coming out, it's a fail++ [02:51] My wings burn both ways :) [02:54] A lady at work promised to bring me a bottle of "super hot" pepper sauce. She was so excited the next day to hand me a bottle of habanero sauce. She seemed a bit shocked when I poured a capful and downed it. :-D [02:54] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. 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[03:11] no idea [03:11] Action: Dominian uses nvidia [03:11] :P [03:12] Action: slackmagic uses and prefers nvidia too :D [03:12] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:13] nvidia is dead [03:13] about as dead as intel [03:13] wat about 3dfx [03:13] Yeah, if that's dead, then I want a piece of that action [03:14] you necrofeliac :P [03:14] your 200m is supported by the radeon driver [03:14] intel at least has an option to survive [03:14] in that market [03:15] newslacker use the "radeon" driver [03:16] newslacker (~root@75-121-8-96.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:17] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [03:18] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-47-77.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:18] FusionX (~FusionX@unaffiliated/fusionx) left irc: Excess Flood [03:18] FreonTrip (~FreonTrip@99-37-202-130.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:18] Oh, the joys of finding a dumpster computer. [03:19] Even one so misbegotten as this. [03:19] FusionX_ (~FusionX@millie.kottnet.net) joined ##slackware. [03:19] FusionX_ (~FusionX@millie.kottnet.net) left irc: Excess Flood [03:19] Is anyone active to share in my joy, and mild befuddlement [03:19] ? [03:20] nope, all dead [03:20] Et tu, andarius? [03:20] :P [03:20] FreonTrip: if it runs.. [03:20] Oh, it does. [03:20] FusionX_ (~FusionX@millie.kottnet.net) joined ##slackware. [03:20] FusionX_ (~FusionX@millie.kottnet.net) left irc: Excess Flood [03:20] You'd be surprised how many good machiens I get out of college dumpsters :) [03:21] et tu? no, you can not lick my twins.... :P [03:21] FusionX_ (~FusionX@millie.kottnet.net) joined ##slackware. [03:21] FusionX_ (~FusionX@millie.kottnet.net) left irc: Excess Flood [03:21] The case stickers identify it as an Athlon64 with an Asus 'board, but it features an Iwill board and a 1.2 GHz Athlon Thunderbird. [03:21] And a stash of furry porn. o_O [03:22] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-166-41.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:22] Dominian: studied somewhere the computers had Radeon R700 graphic cards, if only I knew where they dumped them... ='( [03:22] I'd have blown it away at this point, but it can't boot off a flash drive, only has a CD-ROM drive, and I've no spare CD-Rs. [03:23] Ah, well, I ramble. What's everyone up to? [03:23] check for a bios update? [03:24] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:24] Hunting now. [03:25] jemark (~mark@86-40-57-163-dynamic.b-ras2.blp.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [03:26] redtricycle (~redtricyc@web75.webfaction.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:26] hrm.. I'm experimenting with recordmydesktop.. anyone else done so lately? [03:26] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:28] redtricycle (~redtricyc@web75.webfaction.com) joined ##slackware. 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[04:51] samfisher, are you in scanner group? if not gpasswd -a scanner [04:54] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425013.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:54] masterBIGwilly (~masterBIG@CPE-70-92-9-180.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: they aint never seen it this big [04:56] bitlord: i did that, also logged in as root. still skanlite doesn't sees my scanner [04:56] tuvok302Lappy (~Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-246.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [04:56] killmsft: is a samsung scx452 [04:56] :( [04:57] http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html [05:00] so, i guess it's supported [05:01] scx-4500 series [05:01] juice (1000@67.48.16.165) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:04] masterBIGwilly (~masterBIG@CPE-70-92-9-180.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:05] juice (1000@67.48.16.165) joined ##slackware. [05:09] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.235) joined ##slackware. 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[06:15] nice day to all @! :) [06:15] Roin (~florian@p5B2BD139.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:15] redtricycle (~redtricyc@web75.webfaction.com) joined ##slackware. [06:17] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-166-41.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:20] soul of / [06:29] navegante (~navegante@mancomo.psi.ucm.es) joined ##slackware. [06:31] navegante (~navegante@mancomo.psi.ucm.es) left irc: Client Quit [06:46] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [06:47] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [06:47] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:48] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [06:50] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.235) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:50] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [06:53] x1user (1000@host-212-75-8-69.bbccable.net) joined ##slackware. [06:54] Hi, alsaconf finds my card by i still have no sound, ideas? [06:54] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-49-228.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:56] poke at it with alsamixer. make sure nothing's muted & the volume is turned up appropriately [06:56] i did [06:56] do your jacks have autosense [06:57] i dont now [06:57] actually i moved my hdd on other computer [06:57] turn of hal d [06:58] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.235) joined ##slackware. [06:58] kilmsft: how ? [06:59] kill it killall hald [06:59] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [06:59] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [07:00] no change [07:01] im guessing you should refresh first [07:01] i did [07:04] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [07:06] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:06] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [07:07] |Slacker| (~cris@200.146.78.239.static.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[07:51] jemark (~mark@86-40-57-163-dynamic.b-ras2.blp.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [07:51] ckt1g3r (~ckt1g3r@unaffiliated/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:52] Roin (~florian@p5B2BD139.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: bbl o/ [07:53] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:56] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [07:57] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [07:57] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:03] Is anyone using go-oo instead of OO.o ? [08:06] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [08:06] neonflux (~neonflux@72-18-241-66.static-ip.telepacific.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [08:06] why? [08:09] KaMii (~nebulae@unaffiliated/kamii) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:13] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [08:14] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. 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[08:26] i think its probably older than me [08:26] and any Linux boot medium will have SSH [08:26] you can try tom's root boot [08:26] if that's still maintained [08:26] uhhh, i dont think my slack 11 boot and root disks have ssh [08:26] I haven't touched a floppy in years [08:29] |Slacker| (~cris@200.146.78.239.static.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:30] rin (~textual@88-107-123-95.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [08:30] Nick change: rin -> rinhagemi [08:34] IrquiM (~irquim@84.234.151.118) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [08:34] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:34] KaMii, you can try to build busybox as minimal distro and compile a kernel to boot it [08:35] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:08] ^silence^ (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:08] true that [10:08] ^silence^ (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [10:08] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [10:08] speaking of questions.. [10:09] snL20 (~irssi@138.199.64.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:10] anyone have suggestions on transcoding software? ripping dvds to iso or raw vob isn't a problem (k3b & vobcopy, respectively). I'm looking to convert the result to something that'll fit on a 700mb cd [10:10] quick alphageek you only have 2 min to /part :) [10:10] heh [10:10] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [10:11] I think I have used k9copy for that. Let me see if I can dig it up to be sure. [10:11] I looked at handbrake, but gave up on it after several iterations of test builds. the build environment defies description & it has at least 4 layers of deps that I'm unwilling to chase down (basically building gnome core) [10:12] alphageek: sounds like it needs a breakup [10:12] alphageek: get my packages for handbrake plus deps [10:12] Handbrake is the best [10:12] url(s)? [10:13] Duh dude [10:13] ;-) [10:14] Just to give anotehr URL than usually - http://taper.alienbase.nl/mirrors/people/alien/restricted_slackbuilds/handbrake/ for handbrake and the rest of the deps will be there as well somewhere [10:14] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:15] alphageek: deps: http://taper.alienbase.nl/mirrors/people/alien/slackbuilds/webkitgtk/ http://taper.alienbase.nl/mirrors/people/alien/slackbuilds/icu4c/ and http://taper.alienbase.nl/mirrors/people/alien/slackbuilds/libsoup/ [10:15] actually, handbrake no longer depends on webkit in its trunk [10:15] 0.9.4 does [10:15] why did it even depend on webkit in the first place? [10:15] the only reason it did was because it used it for the Update Manager on the apple side [10:16] yes, 0.9.4 is actually quite stale, and really not recommended by them [10:16] Indeed. And stupidly, webkit was _only_ needed to display the online help page... suckers [10:16] alphageek: If you don't need GUI you can cut the webkit dep [10:16] alienBOB, yet, it spawned firefox anyway ;) [10:17] ok, they were free to do whatever they wanted [10:17] SOUL_OF_R00T (~le0@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:17] it's cross-platform - I think the dep mostly came from the apple client [10:17] Yes [10:18] alphageek, if interested, I wrote + use this one, which pulls SVN directly (kinda pushed by the handbrake guys, actually, as they offer nightly builds these days): http://github.com/abrouwers/ajb_slackbuilds/tree/master/handbrake/ [10:18] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-165.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:18] mm, with a stale readme I guess :p [10:19] but they're using webkit-*gtk*, are/were they using gtk too on mac? [10:19] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722145641] [10:21] no, apple already has webkit for safari, no? [10:22] arkay (~fd@92.85.210.203) joined ##slackware. [10:22] yeah, but it's definitely not compatible with webkit-gtk and I think they have a native app (not a gtk one running in XQuartz [gtk2 cocoa is pretty recent]) [10:22] hello [10:22] lamah (~lamah@78.90.113.108) joined ##slackware. [10:22] lamah (~lamah@78.90.113.108) left irc: Changing host [10:22] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [10:24] adrien: handbrake will work with plain old webkit [10:24] Nick change: ^silence^ -> snL20 [10:25] or, with any recent pull, without handbrake at all :> [10:25] suggestions for anything _besides_ handbrake? [10:25] without webkit at all * [10:25] alphageek, not that i've used - it's really the best at what it does imo [10:25] shonudo (user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [10:25] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-166-41.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:26] alphageek: x264 + an mkv muxer ? [10:26] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Client Quit [10:27] XGizzmo: my point was that it was really weird to depend on webkit with the gtk2 gui when it actually requires more code [10:27] does webkit-gtk actually have a gtk gui? I thought just a little test app that was worthless or something? [10:28] not at all, webkit-gtk has (almost) everything and there are several browsers using it [10:28] GtkLauncher is a test/demo [10:28] right [10:28] (which is not installed, but I don't know if some slackbuilds don't install it) [10:28] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [10:29] marienz (~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz) left irc: Ping timeout: 600 seconds [10:32] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [10:37] thrice`: thanks for the build script. I'll give it a whirl later today.. loaded up with too much frustration right now to attempt anything [10:37] Action: adrien gives alphageek an icecream [10:41] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:43] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [10:43] gabriel_ (1000@190.162.34.84) joined ##slackware. [10:45] Hey there. Anyone knows is those usb devices to use in slide presentations to pass pages work on linux? [10:46] you mean press a button and go forward or backward? [10:46] yes, those works fine [10:46] Yep [10:46] marienz (~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz) joined ##slackware. [10:46] Whats the name of those thingies? [10:47] can be anything, a friend of mine uses a bluetooth mouse [10:47] but there are also devices dedicated to that [10:47] Should i take any care when buying one? [10:47] basically, anything with buttons and wireless should work [10:47] if it's exotic, check first that it's supported =) [10:47] They work as mouse or keyb? [10:48] neonflux (~neonflux@72-18-241-66.static-ip.telepacific.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:48] will depend on the driver I guess, no rule [10:48] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [10:50] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:53] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [10:54] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [10:56] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:57] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:00] anyone working on Athlon XP ~2200+ ? [11:01] Hey [11:01] I'm working on such a machine :o [11:01] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.55.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [11:01] damn been nine years already... 9 years since I was sitting right here in this very channel [11:01] is there any problem with mozilla? [11:01] can you pastebin of /proc/cpuinfo and lspci ? [11:02] maharba: ? [11:02] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [11:02] jhell: =) [11:04] Roin: ? [11:04] mac-: I have an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ [11:05] Roin: can you pastebin of /proc/cpuinfo and lspci ? [11:05] I'm not at it atm [11:05] oh [11:05] sorry :) [11:05] maharba, do you say in current? [11:06] I have upgraded after a while from Athlon 750Mhz/Irongate to AthlonXP 2200+/KT266 [11:11] fiuuu... I must clean my bedroom! [11:14] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:18] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:19] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:20] Delahunt (~robert@fd126-062.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [11:23] sluttyduck (~slut@66.161.224.139) joined ##slackware. [11:23] hey i have a question. i see a kernel, 2.6.33.7 as stable on kernel.org. would this be a better kernel for slackware 13.1 than the latest stable? [11:23] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [11:24] Delahunt: I generally don't update my kernels unless I have a driver issue. [11:24] delahunt, if its of any relavence Im using 2.6.35.4 [11:24] might be issues with .33, some things might be incompatible, not that it won't work but it may break [11:25] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [11:25] PS: unpatched kernels below 2.6.35 have a security flaw that can allow escalated privs [11:25] I think I'll upgrade my 13.0 box today [11:25] Roin (~florian@pD9557F92.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [11:25] jhell that is not true [11:25] sure [11:26] no [11:27] the page guard code has been applied to all 2.6.x branches not just .35.x [11:27] it is irresponsible to say things you know nothingabout. [11:27] Buffer overflow in the ecryptfs_uid_hash macro in fs/ecryptfs/messaging.c in the eCryptfs subsystem in the Linux kernel before 2.6.35 might allow local users to gain privileges or cause a denial of service (system crash) via unspecified vectors. (CVE-2010-2492) [11:28] josemanuel (~josemanue@46.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [11:28] If you really want more information go look it up [11:28] I dont say things without a little research before hand [11:29] well cve's get fixed across the board. [11:29] well doesnt cut it [11:29] gabriel_ (1000@190.162.34.84) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:30] suggeting that being on the .35 branch is the only solution is incorrect. [11:30] I didnt say anthing about a solution [11:31] and a .35 isnt a branch [11:31] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-107.fpscc.den.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [11:31] its a minor revision to the 2.6 branch [11:32] no, branch is an informal term which i used to denote braks at minors [11:32] if you are a real kernel hacker you will refer to them as version.major.minor.release [11:33] but thanks for playing. [11:33] matter of fact I did refer to it as minor didnt I [11:33] maybe youll want to re-read that [11:33] you called "2.6" the branch [11:33] [11:34] this is a great example of what happens when security information is incorrectly processed by people who don't really understand it. you get outlandish comments and FUD. [11:35] really... I dont recall any of that being in my original statement that you so gruntfully disclaimed wasnt true until I pointed it out. [11:36] but if youd like to continue being anal retentive feel free doesnt bother me any. [11:40] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:41] arkay (~fd@92.85.210.203) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:41] jhell, did you check the other stable branch changelogs to see if they received patching for said security issue? [11:42] seejay (~seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:42] khodesh (59a51058@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.165.16.88) joined ##slackware. [11:43] no. I just made it aware that it was out. [11:43] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [11:43] the date on that is Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:45:01 [11:43] how do i check that any service(httpd,mysqld and ..) started or not started? [11:43] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [11:43] in bash [11:44] khodesh, socklist to see if a port is open and a simple ps auxc for the other should do [11:44] khodesh: pgrep mysqld [11:44] seejay (~seejay@plexyplanet.org) joined ##slackware. [11:45] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) joined ##slackware. [11:45] Nick change: seejay -> Guest61717 [11:46] jhell, you can't assume the other branches have it: it could've been introduced by a feature in .36 or whatever newest kernel [11:46] i want a command to use in shellscript ... that return a value that show started or not started [11:46] but anyways, my question is should (philosophically) one stick with the closest stable branch to the stock kernel of 13.1 or not? i know there's not really a "yes" or "no" attached to this, but i'm just curious [11:47] should -> stick [11:48] philpp (~phil@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:48] hey guys, I have a question about the /etc/rc.d directory [11:48] is it basically the 'autorun' directory for boot time? [11:49] Delahunt, the CVE that jhell mentions was fixed back in late July, it is fixed in versions 2.6.35, 2.6.34.2, 2.6.33.7, 2.6.32.17 [11:49] sup mancha [11:49] hi philpp [11:50] adrien, so in theory sticking to 2.6.33.x should be better? [11:50] mancha, roger that, i figured it was [11:50] hey mancha quick question, are all the scripts in the /etc/rc.d directory automatically run on boot time [11:50] sticking to slackware's =) [11:50] philpp, no, not all. [11:50] mancha, how do you get one to be run [11:50] there's a sequencing to how that is done... [11:50] masterBIGwilly (~masterBIG@CPE-70-92-9-180.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: they aint never seen it this big [11:51] ph8 (ph8@unaffiliated/ph8) left irc: Quit: Bye [11:51] for example, the standard (slackware standard) daemon ones like rc.httpd are run only if set +x [11:51] philpp, they must be called out by some other script, not all are just executed just because they're present and executable in /etc/rc.d/ [11:51] but it's the place you would put your files in (among others) [11:51] (other steps*) [11:51] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) joined ##slackware. [11:52] oh [11:52] what file is the standard one for editing to run commands when the computer starts [11:52] for your own commands, one can use rc.local [11:52] this is my personal preference. you can also make your own rc.philpp and add it to rc.M for example. [11:53] ok, is rc.local the one that like, when you install wicd, it adds itself to that to get it to start when you boot [11:53] jhell you're right, there is little point to continued anal-retentiveness. [11:54] Delahunt (~robert@fd126-062.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:54] wicd i believe adds in rc.wicd [11:54] which takes the usual, start, stop, restart params (if not mistaken) [11:54] but you said it's not autorun when you boot, so what file does it modify to get it to run rc.wicd [11:55] you can call rc.wicd from rc.local: "rc.wicd start" [11:55] so wicd edits rc.local when it boots up? [11:55] when it's installed* [11:56] no, *you* edit rc.local [11:56] but when I installed wicd, I didn't edit any files and it autostarts when I boot [11:56] aha, interesting... [11:56] khodesh (59a51058@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.165.16.88) left irc: Quit: Page closed [11:57] see if it added something to rc.local [11:58] nope [11:58] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [11:58] rc.local is empty but for comments at the top [11:58] grep wicd -r /etc/rc.d [11:59] rc.wicd starts automatically via slack's init [11:59] aha [11:59] it's in rc.M [11:59] what's that file for [11:59] but not the graphical client I think, it would be in the desktop environment [11:59] multiuser daemons. [12:00] oh, right, wicd is standard in newer slack's isn't it [12:00] not standard [12:00] in extra/ [12:00] pat must have put a block in rc.M for it. [12:00] usr13 (~te@adsl-68-94-11-25.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:00] NaCl, so who puts the block in rc.M? [12:00] Pat did [12:01] but it's not a problem as long as rc.wicd doesn't exist or is not +x [12:01] yes [12:01] The package is in extra/, that's there because the service should be started when the other network service is [12:01] philpp ok, my new answer is you can chmod -x the rc.wicd file [12:01] mancha, lol ok thanks [12:01] what is the rc.M file specifically for [12:02] is it the super master start-everything-from-here boot file? [12:02] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:02] to initiate a standard set of multiuser functions and bootstrap rc.local [12:02] init, inittab [12:02] ah [12:02] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:02] (M)ultiuser not (M)aster:) [12:03] ah [12:03] look at /etc/inittab for initial start - it points to /etc/rc.d/rc.S to start, then rc.S starts the other stuff [12:03] ok thansk [12:03] think of rc.S (S=Single/Start) and rc.M (M-Multiuser) [12:03] ah yeah ok [12:03] so does linux just run one file which runs all other files at boot, or does it have a set that it runs all of [12:04] the dvd iso needs more seeders. Dammit. [12:05] slackware has a sequence it follows to boot philpp [12:05] depends on how they have it set up - Slackware uses the BSD-style scripting method (master script kicks off other scripts), then the SysVInit method where there's a master directory of scripts (/etc/init.d) that the different runlevels have links to [12:05] thumbs: I'm working on my repo setup to add another host with torrent [12:05] mrcarrot (~lasse@86-60-154-229-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) joined ##slackware. [12:06] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [12:06] alisonken1home: no big deal. It has not started yet, and It's been running for 30 minutes. [12:06] alisonken1home: I might grab the iso directly. bah. [12:06] well i sorta picked a stupid fight with jhell. must need sleep. [12:06] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [12:06] thumbs: http://slackware.dreamhost.com [12:07] alisonken1home: gracias [12:07] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) joined ##slackware. [12:07] hello, i purchased a wifi router and i want to set it up to connect to the internet with both my pc and laptop. the problem is, i have a static ip assigned by the isp based on mac address. what can I do? clone the pc's mac into router? [12:07] although it looks like I need to get -current updated with this weeks changes [12:07] alisonken1home: that's your mirror? [12:07] thumbs: yep [12:07] BP{k} (~michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:07] alisonken1home: beauty. Thanks again. [12:07] np [12:08] BP{k} (~michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) joined ##slackware. [12:08] samfisher: sounds like the only solution [12:08] most routers supports this [12:08] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [12:09] I just upgraded the church router and it took me an extra 15 minutes to set it up because of finally remembering the username/mac address issue :) [12:09] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:09] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [12:10] alisonken1home: I was hoping that the 13.1 isos still had seeders. I suppose most of those are gone by now. [12:10] hmm - I would think 13.1 seeders would be prolific now since it's still the stable one [12:11] mrcarrot: so, i selected static IP. i know my ip address, my subnetmask but it also ask for the gateway and primary dns. i don't know these [12:11] how can i find them? [12:11] i think the torrents are used mostly right after a release as the ftps are choked [12:11] alisonken1home: perhaps my firewall is too restrictive. Umm. [12:12] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [12:12] what is your subnet mask samfisher? [12:12] 255.255.254.0 [12:12] and what is the ip? [12:12] it's private... [12:13] just want to validate the ip and mask match [12:13] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:14] i'm sure they do. got them from ifconfig eth0 [12:14] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:14] interestng that the mask ends in 254 - normally it's 255 [12:14] i was thinking the same too [12:14] especially if it uses the 192.168 range [12:14] my isp range is *.*.140-141.* [12:15] no, we have external ip addresses [12:15] and static ones to [12:16] anyway, the dns you get from /etc/resolv.conf... in case you have a working computer [12:17] mrcarrot: great, thanks man [12:17] what about the gateway? [12:18] route [12:19] FreonTrip (~FreonTrip@99-37-202-130.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:20] Do you guys remember the defrag tool on win98 (if somebody used that os)?? I'm like it, data is scatterd all over inside my head. Lots of empty spaces. For example I can use pretty easily metasploit or can make a custom kernel but don't know how to setup a wifi router [12:20] heh [12:21] that happens with lots of alcohol too [12:21] you get from /etc/resolv.conf... in case you have a working computer [12:21] (19:14:50) ( samfisher) mrcarrot: great, thanks man [12:21] sorry for copy paste [12:23] one more thing. what should I do with the ports I need open (like ssh and 80)? let the all open in the router and configure the rules in iptables, make rules only in the router or both? [12:23] FreonTrip (~FreonTrip@99-37-202-130.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:24] samfisher: keep only the ports you want open in the router [12:24] emma_ (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [12:24] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [12:24] it adds one layer of security more [12:25] Nick change: emma_ -> emma [12:25] better like that than to do port forwarding on every single port [12:26] ok. thank you [12:27] i have a router myself. [12:27] behind it i am having 3-4 old laptops and one home "server" [12:27] and the only forwardings i am having in the router are the ones going to the server [12:28] and on the server i am running additionally pf to filter and log requests [12:28] (my server is running openbsd) [12:29] nmap shows port 37 time and 113 auth. do i need them open? [12:29] openbsd, nice [12:29] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [12:30] nope [12:30] not from internet normally [12:30] and as a hint [12:31] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-165.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [12:31] if you want a whole log filled each day with scriptkiddie activities, then run ssh on the standard port, otherwise pick something really high [12:31] for example something above 50000 [12:31] mrcarrot: yes, i did that [12:32] Dotk (~Dotk@seagate.surgehost.net) joined ##slackware. [12:32] but, i was amazed when i played a little bit with nessus, it detected the service on my non-standar port [12:32] amigatech (~amigatech@adsl-71-175-33.gsp.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [12:32] of course any portscan will reveal [12:33] but most script kiddies do not run that long time to find ports [12:33] amigatech (~amigatech@adsl-71-175-33.gsp.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:36] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:36] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:36] mrcarrot: thanks for all the help, bye [12:36] j0z (~surf@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [12:37] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) left irc: Quit: exit error code 434 [12:41] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [12:42] Axius (~fd@109.97.48.170) joined ##slackware. [12:42] j0z (~surf@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Quit: +n+(?_?)+n+ [12:43] How can recompile a generic-kernel useing the old config? [12:43] Axius: make oldconfig [12:43] err [12:44] Axius: make menuconfig, select old config [12:44] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:45] thumbs: From where? [12:47] look in /boot [12:47] masterBIGwilly (~masterBIG@CPE-70-92-9-180.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:51] Akuma (~Akuma@modemcable099.110-179-173.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:54] What should I do next after I run make menuconfig? [12:54] Axius: the menu allows you to load an alternate config file. [12:54] thumbs: yes, my local version. [12:55] Axius: wait, now I see your question. [12:55] Axius: you can extrack the .config file from a running kernel. [12:57] thumbs: I've compiled my own generic-kernel but I'm not able to boot the system with that kernel. [12:57] that [12:57] niranj (~NiranjanR@5356C868.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:57] s [12:57] Axius: so you want to use the .config pat used? [12:57] thumbs: yes [12:58] Axius: it's on the mirrors. Go ahead and download it. [12:58] Axius: then use "Load Alternate Config File" in menuconfig [12:59] thumbs: ok, thanks but I want to use my locale version. [12:59] Axius: then use that one. [13:01] thumbs: ok. [13:03] bzzzzz (~user@ip-193.net-85.239.152.ktbac.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:03] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-166-41.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:04] bzzzzz (~user@85.239.152.193) joined ##slackware. [13:04] Akuma (~Akuma@modemcable099.110-179-173.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. 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[15:13] sh4d0wl3ss: ask here not privately [15:13] sh4d0wl3ss: firefox is included with slackware so you can install it very easily [15:14] Lord_Khelben: yes, i just don't want to include gtk+ libs when i'm running KDE [15:14] hahaha [15:15] sorry =) [15:15] everything uses gtk+ [15:15] so you will need it sooner or later [15:15] basically [15:15] and gtk+ is pretty light compared to qt [15:15] so it doesn't hurt to have it [15:15] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@dynamic-adsl-94-36-186-245.clienti.tiscali.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:15] psykhe (~psykhe@187.36.147.43) joined ##slackware. [15:18] masterBIGwilly (~masterBIG@CPE-70-92-9-180.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:20] neonflux (~neonflux@72-18-241-66.static-ip.telepacific.net) joined ##slackware. [15:21] Axius (~fd@92.85.214.155) joined ##slackware. [15:22] Action: mancha yearns for the days of motif [15:23] Lord_Khelben:yeah, i just don't want the extra libs. what desktop environment (if any) are you running? [15:23] Action: adrien doesn't [15:23] i am using kde this period, but i have also used xfce,windowmaker,etc (and i have them all installed :P ) [15:23] firefox is a gtk+ app [15:24] sh4d0wl3ss: when you have a program installed, its libs aren't loaded like in windows, so your system doesn't get slow [15:24] if you install gtk and don't use it, it will just take space on the hard disk [15:24] 50mb is nothing on hard disks [15:25] if you want a motif browser you can probably find netscape from around 2001/2002 [15:25] Prefect_ (Prefect@CPE0050ba42fad2-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:25] or use chrome and/or konqueror [15:25] it was called "communicator" i think at that time :P [15:26] Lord_Khelben: i'm avoiding chrome right now, just because i'm angry at google. how is konqueror? i like it, but it's a little odd. [15:26] sh4d0wl3ss: i don't use konqueror. i use firefox mostly and midori [15:26] do you also avoid www.google.com? [15:26] i suggest you install the libs but its your call of course [15:26] yup. [15:27] how's midori? [15:28] midori needs imlib2 libsoup webkit, so i guess you won't like it either [15:28] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-79-158.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3 [15:28] josemanuel (~josemanue@46.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [15:28] what is wrong with those libs? [15:28] google chrome also requires gtk+ dive. [15:29] there's also aurora which uses qtwebkit so you don't need to install anything [15:29] arora [15:29] how's aurora? [15:29] if you don't like konqueror [15:29] masterBIGwilly (~masterBIG@CPE-70-92-9-180.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:29] ah sorry arora [15:29] very well then. how is it? [15:29] i find midori better than arora, but in arora the zoom feature works [15:29] if you want a browser without the the "heavy" burden of X11 widget sets, i say go for lynx. [15:30] rekonq! :) [15:30] dillo is good [15:30] mancha: not "telnet website 80" ? :) [15:30] though i think lynx does do jscript well (at all?) [15:30] i don't adive direct telnets and GET's to anyone under level 12.5 linux-fu [15:30] advise [15:31] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:31] yes rekonq is nice too [15:31] hmmmmmmm. anything wrong with konqueror? and what is rekonq? [15:31] sh4d0wl3ss: since you already use kde, try konqueror,rekonq,arora [15:32] and see for yourself [15:32] masterBIGwilly (~masterBIG@CPE-70-92-9-180.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [15:32] tastes/opinions vary [15:32] midori is definitely gtk+ btw [15:32] masterBIGwilly (~masterBIG@CPE-70-92-9-180.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:32] like 100% [15:32] yes midori is gtk [15:32] that is why you also need to compile webkit [15:32] though tbh i am growing tired of GET / HTTP/1.1\nUser-Agent... [15:32] each time i want my pr0n [15:32] okay. thanks for answering my questions, btw. [15:33] i am still fan of installing gtk :) [15:33] mancha, so it does, I didn't know that [15:33] dive, these days most things do though qt's prevalence is growing. [15:34] When I try to start another DE beside fluxbox X crashes. I've tried to start windowmaker and X crashes. [15:34] Axius: i guess same problem as the other times [15:34] you don't have some libs installed [15:34] same problem with sh4d0wl3ss [15:34] can the bot be programmed to say "Axius do a full install." [15:35] Lord_Khelben: I can start fluxbox. [15:35] windowmaker and fluxbox are different programs [15:35] so there is a great change they need different libraries :) [15:35] s/change/chance/ [15:36] edthix (~ed@175.137.232.66) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:36] does chrome have addon/plugin activation at the plugin granularity? [15:37] dios_mio (net@78.179.99.215) left irc: [15:37] it didn't last time i tried (4-5 months ago) [15:37] the smallest hard disk i have seen in a box nowadays is 10gb on a very old box [15:37] i doubt many people have 10gb though [15:37] even netbooks have at least 160gb [15:38] why don't you just install the libs and avoid all these problems [15:38] i'd like 160gb ssd [15:38] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [15:40] masterBIGwilly (~masterBIG@CPE-70-92-9-180.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:40] yeah i'd like that too :) but i stay with normal hds for the time being [15:40] i can't spend that much money on ssd [15:40] they really need to drop from the $400-$500 range. [15:41] hello, can we have some competition please? [15:41] mancha, they will eventually as they become more prevalent. [15:41] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [15:42] brianw (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:44] and they'll get better controllers and firmwares i guess [15:45] rafu (~rafu@42-226-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:45] many cheap ssd advertise large theoretical speeds and in real world scenarios they are as quick as a hard-drive [15:45] philpp (~phil@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:46] brianw (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:46] gabriel (1000@190.162.34.84) joined ##slackware. [15:47] Axius (~fd@92.85.214.155) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:48] Prefect_ (Prefect@CPE0050ba42fad2-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [15:48] Axius (~fd@92.85.214.155) joined ##slackware. [15:50] what are the differences between locate and slocate? [15:51] i think it honours permissions [15:51] (among other differences) [15:51] it won't show you other users' files or files you can't see [15:51] It uses incremental encoding just like GNU [15:51] locate to compress its database to make searching faster, but it will also check [15:52] file permissions and ownership before displaying matched entries so that users [15:52] will not see files they do not have access to. [15:52] yeah. [15:52] slocate = secure locate iirc [15:53] but I think with updatedb running as root every file can be located by everyonr [15:54] Axius (fd@92.85.214.155) left ##slackware. [15:55] Axius (~fd@92.85.214.155) joined ##slackware. [15:55] the files exist in the db, but the program omits them from the output [15:55] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [15:56] yeah [15:56] Why I get this when I run sudo "sudo: init: command not found"? [15:57] because it's not in your path [15:58] try sudo /sbin/init [15:59] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-47-77.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:59] Axius (~fd@92.85.214.155) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:00] Axius (~fd@92.85.214.155) joined ##slackware. [16:01] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:01] ckt1g3r (~ckt1g3r@unaffiliated/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:02] I dont have sound after rebooting the sys. I this error:/usr/sbin/alsactl: load_state:1616: No soundcards found [16:02] Axius: add yourself to the sound group yet? [16:03] sh4d0wl3ss: I thinks so. [16:03] sh4d0wl3ss: I think so. [16:03] what soundcard do you have, then [16:03] did you load the module for it ? [16:03] Axius, to check run 'groups' as your user [16:03] users floppy audio video cdrom plugdev power netdev [16:04] adaptr: How do I found out what soundcard I have? [16:04] lspci -v [16:05] VIA High Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10) [16:06] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:06] adaptr: How can load the module for that soundcard? [16:07] you'd need to figure out which module first [16:07] udev should load it automatically [16:07] if it's compatible with intel HDA, you could try that [16:08] adaptr: How can I load intel HDA module? [16:08] try "modprobe snd-via82xx" [16:08] and "modprobe snd-hda-codec-via" [16:09] the second is more probable [16:09] ah well, apparently it has its own modules [16:09] Lord_Khelben: FATAL: Module snd_hda_codec_via not found. [16:09] Stanto (~Stanto@client-86-25-227-18.lds-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) joined ##slackware. [16:10] Axius: if you do "depmod -a" and try again it works ? [16:11] Lord_Khelben: no, it does not work. [16:11] du /lib/modules/$(uname -r) [16:11] what does this command say ? [16:13] tsolox (~tsolox@120.28.220.16) joined ##slackware. [16:13] anyone using ompload successfully to send images? [16:13] the problem is ---> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/260747/ [16:13] Axius, firstly if you do 'lsmod | grep snd' it will say if the module is already loaded [16:13] yeah. i was just going to say to run "cat /proc/asound/cards" [16:13] Axius, if that shows some results try running alsaconf [16:13] The module has been drinking to excess. [16:14] _AtheoS_ (~AtheoS@cpc1-live12-0-0-cust178.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:14] Buggaboo (~Buggaboo@535316B2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:15] Lord_Khelben: Lord_Khelben This are the libs:http://dpaste.com/242048/ [16:16] Axius: try "cat /proc/asound/cards" or what dive said [16:17] --- no soundcards --- [16:17] Axius, lsmod | grep snd ? [16:18] on sec [16:19] Axius: i don't see a "hda" directory in your du output. what kernel is this ? the "-ns" makes me think it's not slackware provided [16:19] dive: http://dpaste.com/242049/ [16:20] ah so it uses the via82xx module :) [16:20] 2.6.29.6-smp-ns [16:20] Axius, ok good so the modules are loaded, now run alsaconf [16:20] indeed not a Slackware kernel [16:20] tsolox (tsolox@120.28.220.16) left ##slackware. [16:21] Lord_Khelben: It's slackware provided but compiled by me. [16:21] rheault (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [16:21] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [16:22] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [16:22] _AtheoS_ (~AtheoS@cpc1-live12-0-0-cust178.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:22] I get this when I run alsaconf: no supported pnp or pci card found. What shall I do in this case? [16:24] the module is loaded but the card is not recognised [16:24] when the card worked you used this kernel ? [16:25] Lord_Khelben: no, I did not used this kernel. I've used a generic kernel with initrd. [16:26] if remove the module with "rmmod snd_via82xx" clear the messages with "dmesg -c > /dev/null" and insert the module again with "modprobe snd_via82xx" [16:26] do you read any errors in dmesg ? [16:26] like it couldn't find the card or something [16:26] Lord_Khelben: Yes, this "error:/usr/sbin/alsactl: load_state:1616" [16:29] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:30] ok, thanks for trying to help me guys. [16:30] Axius (fd@92.85.214.155) left ##slackware. [16:30] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:31] hm. i was googling the error and he left [16:34] rheault (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:37] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. 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[16:51] depends on your desktop. if you use a desktop environment, like kde, gnome, or xfce, they will handle automounting for you [16:52] thrice`: i'm using kde. [16:52] ok, kde uses hal for automounting, so if you are in the plugdev group, you'll be able to access them [16:53] thrice`: really? thanks! [16:53] yep, if you plug it in, it'll pop up in KDE's device notification thingy down in the sys-tray [16:54] bangin. [16:58] davimint (~david@c-76-123-136-23.hsd1.ms.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:00] sh4d0wl3ss (~sh4d0wl3s@ip68-5-133-53.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:04] When is setup alien's multilib, while running current should I blacklist the lib packages I change in X86_64 from slackpkg or will those never be changed in current? [17:05] -current would upgrade most packages, including the 32compat ones [17:05] ashe (~ashe@125.163.7.165) joined ##slackware. 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[19:44] grazymax (~grazymax@host7-22-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [19:45] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:46] Mowah (~Mowah@c-f685e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:49] fatalnix (~fatalnix@opportunity.georgix.info) joined ##slackware. [19:49] Running Slackware 12.2, that last Firefox 3.0.19 update a couple days ago seems to have screwed up my Firefox as it now hangs and sometimes runs up one of the CPUs [19:49] Anyone heard or know anything about it? [19:49] that is weird. try reverting back to 3.0.18 [19:49] haven't played with 12.2 in over a year [19:50] see if it is indeed FF. i've not heard about this problem but i abandoned 3.0.x long ago. [19:51] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [19:52] I'm using Konqueror at the moment, definitely Firefox. Maybe time to upgrade to 13.1, kind of like the automated security updates for the browser [19:52] Whats the official Firefox for 13.1? [19:53] 3.6.x i believe [19:53] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425013.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:53] 3.6.9 [19:53] are you sure it is the ff? if you go back to 3.0.18 it works? [19:54] if it works when you revert, you might want to email pat and let him know. [19:55] Action: alphageek returns & woots [19:56] I now have a reasonably successful build of handbrake sitting on, of all things, my netbook [19:56] Dotk (Dotk@seagate.surgehost.net) left ##slackware. [19:56] thrice`: thanks for sharing your slackbuild. pulling from svn definitely appears to be the way to go for this one [19:58] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. 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[21:11] heh [21:11] nope, at home, designing networks and falling asleep [21:13] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: I totally fell asleep. [21:15] nope getting drunk and listening to the pogues [21:16] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) left irc: Quit: @Out [21:17] ROLL DAMN TIDE! [21:18] Oh, I mean, yeah, I'm watching football. [21:18] hackeron (~hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:19] rworkman: hehe. [21:20] just when you thought broadcom had seen the light...well they have in a sense. [21:21] the light being dell, hp, and ibm dumping them like a hot potato [21:21] the major OEMs now require FOSS drivers in order to participate in contract bidding! [21:23] sounds good [21:24] Yep, that's wonderful :) [21:25] It doesn't matter *why* they saw the light - it only matters *that* they saw the light. [21:26] they held linux back many years, i am not so ready to forgive their sins [21:26] what is wonderful is the that big oem's are now making open source drivers a precondition! [21:27] they and others are learning what it can do for them ;) [21:27] mancha: re forgive, I understand that sentiment. [21:28] took them long eough [21:28] dell, hp, and ibm also took their time to come around, the reason is increased pressure from customers for linux-friendly hardware [21:29] so we're definitely winning the war :) [21:29] <|Slacker|> hello there [21:30] people (hardware manu's) should realise that open sourcing drivers is the way to go [21:30] what's amazing is at the same time you have outfits that seem to want to reverse that trend. oracle just recently pretty much shut down opensolaris and they are suing goolge over java [21:30] I don't expect *everything* to be open sourced but drivers.. yeah it makes sends [21:30] s/sends/sence [21:31] er sense [21:31] <|Slacker|> I've installed Network Manager from sbo with modem manager and the mobile provider info but NM is unable to connect my modem [21:31] the biggest bugbears - drivers and document formats [21:31] but looks like MS have shot everyone down with the latter [21:32] at least with the important ones [21:32] they're losing that war to googledocs [21:32] google docs is great unless you lose networking [21:32] I prefer keep my shit here [21:33] hackeron (~hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [21:33] Slacker, you probably need updated broadband provider info? [21:33] fixed audacious doesnt play wma [21:33] at least until google docs support tex/latex [21:33] <|Slacker|> mancha, where do I get it? [21:34] from gnome [21:34] <|Slacker|> thx [21:35] google as a response withdrew from this years java dev conference [21:35] the funny thing is all the great speakers usually are google folks at those java events :/ [21:36] Slakcer http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManager/MobileBroadband/ServiceProviders [21:38] extor (~extor@c-76-16-36-19.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:40] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-230-96.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [21:40] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [21:41] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-230-96.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[22:44] mario (~mario@orion.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [22:44] I don't understand why it moved in the first place. [22:44] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.5.232) joined ##slackware. [22:45] I installed the card, and booted. all was cool. next time I booted i had the wireless card on eth0, and the onboard at eth2 (!?!?) and my most recent boot the onboard is at eth1... which completely hoses all my network config *and* my wireless [22:46] heviarti: so edit the file, set things right and reboot and all should be well. [22:47] rapid (~rapid@c211-28-201-107.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [22:47] rapid (~rapid@c211-28-201-107.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Changing host [22:47] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [22:48] it should not randomly change. the usual reasons is you swap things in and out [22:49] pete` (~user@018.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. 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