[00:00] I cannot see the video, I'm not in United States I'm in Costa Rica [00:01] chopp, I support you :) [00:01] haha [00:01] sucks to be you...er wait... [00:02] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-4-63.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:06] nice picrture http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/Dirtree.jpg [00:06] \o/ [00:08] this is one of my favorite http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/kline.jpg [00:08] is your server ? [00:08] or what [00:08] space i have with pacbell [00:08] My instinct prefers this http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/plenty-of-yes-please.jpg [00:09] lol [00:09] :P [00:10] what's that:http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/rippah.jpg [00:10] I don't undertstand such [00:11] i put that up there for the very reason [00:11] it's a splitter from the headphone out to the line in [00:11] with headphones so i can still listen [00:12] wwrfd ??? [00:13] you know it [00:13] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [00:13] no [00:13] looks like a junkie : http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/yogin-04.jpg [00:13] haha :D [00:14] those are monks [00:14] berkough (n=berkough@ip70-180-206-62.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:15] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-170-151-178.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:15] nullboy, can't see the fucking top row :( [00:15] skillet (n=brad@ip70-174-66-7.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:15] where? [00:16] junkies... in legalize it !!! [00:16] http://tetongravity.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48095 [00:16] Soul_keeper: ftw [00:17] :) [00:17] that is better Soul_keeper ! :D [00:17] lol [00:17] for all tastes ! [00:17] Blondes, Brunettes, Chinese, etc .. only Good my friends ! [00:17] Our reason to live ! [00:17] :P [00:18] Soul_keeper, which is your favorite ? [00:19] i like Georgia, China and indo [00:19] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:19] they coulda done a better picture, higher resolution or something :) [00:19] Georgia just because she looks like she doesn't give a fsck [00:19] Nick change: Dominian_ -> Dominian [00:19] China is just plain hot and indo has that exotic thing going on [00:20] atha_ (n=atha@189.100.116.230) joined ##slackware. [00:20] Georgia is ugly sorry [00:20] Cann0n (n=Cann0n@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: "Leaving" [00:20] she's sporting the girl next door look [00:20] i like it [00:20] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [00:21] berkough (n=berkough@ip70-180-206-62.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:21] CHina is a little bit better [00:21] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-54-247.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [00:21] china is bangin' [00:21] where is indo ? [00:22] nesia [00:22] in the big pic she's 2nd row up, 5 in [00:23] from the right to left [00:23] usa is a hottie but you can't see her very well [00:23] my favorite is would all of them [00:23] mmm [00:24] MrJacks0n (i=Mr@173-86-54-247.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [00:24] line em up right? [00:24] lol [00:24] MakubeX (i=horas@my.barbie.wears.no-panties.org) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:24] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:25] mmmm costa rica [00:25] MakubeX (i=horas@my.barbie.wears.no-panties.org) joined ##slackware. [00:25] indonesia in pretty [00:25] chopp, you like Costa Rica ? Woman! [00:25] germany was hit by a truck [00:26] Yeah Costa Rica Womans are the best of the worlds!!!!!! [00:26] ohhhch !! [00:26] :( [00:26] chopp: lol [00:26] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [00:26] where is USA ? [00:26] anyone in here prefer grub over lilo? I've noticed in general grub tends to be faster than lilo [00:27] yxz97, 4th from the right on the top row [00:27] yxz97: there in order, you know a b c [00:28] close to uruguay ? [00:28] I think Costa Rica Rocks ! [00:28] fairly :) [00:28] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-115.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [00:28] so pretty woman ! [00:29] brunette skin is so sexy [00:29] brazil has nice bubbies [00:30] slovenia looks like a milk box [00:30] Jappan looks good [00:36] aport` (n=aport`@ip68-8-55-162.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:39] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:39] So is slack maintained only by patrick? [00:39] lol [00:40] Ah! You're here too! [00:40] Patrick is to Slack as Linus is to Linux. There are a lot of contributors but ultimately he decides what happens [00:40] Got it [00:40] I was hoping that was the case. At least he isn't a one man show [00:40] that's how it all starts [00:41] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-54-247.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:43] yxz97 (n=jose@201.194.46.86) left irc: "Leaving" [00:43] this is so lame http://www.mercurynews.com/centralcoast/ci_12121118 [00:43] why don't they secure the damn bunker? [00:45] it's not like it's a secret where these pits are. they even label the damn things "BELL" "ELECTRIC" "GAS" [00:45] wtf is wrong with them? [00:45] no doubt [00:46] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:48] my local telco's CO is insane...but they leave the manholes in the street unprotected. the CO is a huge reinforced concrete building with no windows and is surrounded by barbed wire...but some asshole vandal just needs to pop a manhole cover...GG [00:48] mr_cakes (n=quassel@c-24-7-194-9.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:49] mooglenorph (n=user@wsip-70-184-14-138.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:50] Hello all. An unfortunate thing happens: my laptop suspends to disk fine, but if I suspend it to ram, it turns itself off after a few minutes, and state is lost. [00:50] few minutes or hours? [00:50] I can't reboot it without first taking out the battery and disconnecting it from AC power. This started after I upgraded to slack 12.2 from 12.1 [00:50] minutes. [00:50] 15ish. my battery lasts for an hour and a half, when the laptop is being used. [00:51] and it can't resume? maybe there is something in /var/log/messages [00:55] Hmm. CHecking that. [00:55] ezrafree (i=ezra@208.67.159.229) joined ##slackware. [00:57] Nick change: Urchlay_ -> Urchlay [00:57] What should I look for? [00:58] Chrysalis (n=UD@unaffiliated/chrysalis) left irc: "Leaving..." [00:58] There isn't anything that seems like an error, it seems to be normal bootup stuff, and from when I put it to sleep there doesn't seem to be any error. [00:58] After the sleeping, there's just a "restart" [00:58] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-24-10-209-162.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving." [00:59] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.148.123.80) joined ##slackware. [01:00] if suspend to disk works, it seems odd that suspend to ram doesnt work [01:01] i dont know what else to do to diagnose it [01:02] FriedBob (n=Fried@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:02] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [01:02] Yeah, it is really strange. [01:03] FriedBob (n=Fried@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. [01:03] I hope it isn't some weird hardware problem that has recently cropped up, because that would really suck... I like this laptop. [01:03] hardware problems rarely crop up due to software updates [01:05] i would wager that it is not entering the proper power state and then dumping completely [01:05] berkough (n=berkough@ip70-180-206-62.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:05] slack_fish (n=slack_fi@59.72.110.45) joined ##slackware. [01:05] just a guess though. as i dont use suspend [01:05] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "there are so many wonderous things in life. which shall i start with" [01:06] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:07] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Client Quit [01:08] mooglenorph: do you have bluetooth drivers loaded? [01:09] nullboy: no [01:09] what about sound card drivers? which chipset is that on your system? [01:09] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:09] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Client Quit [01:09] intel HDA [01:10] 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) [01:10] nixnix (n=misspwna@209.150.205.130) left irc: "Leaving" [01:10] Chrysalis (n=UD@unaffiliated/chrysalis) joined ##slackware. [01:10] hmm, that's probably not it then. i have the same chipset [01:10] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:12] berkough (n=berkough@ip70-180-206-62.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:13] mooglenorph: does it have wifi? [01:14] Yes [01:14] 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02) [01:14] [01:14] dang man. [01:15] nothing i ask you for has any problems that i have seen [01:15] mooglenorph: can you try to go into rl 1 and then suspend to ram? [01:15] all intell stuff, should be a piece of cake [01:15] Sure. How would I do that? [01:16] runlevel 1 [01:16] as root type: init 1 [01:16] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat076.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [01:16] then log in and manually echo to suspend [01:16] echo -n "mem" > /sys/power/state [01:16] see what happens [01:16] Okay, I'll try that, and watch it. This may take a few... thanks [01:17] k [01:17] mooglenorph (n=user@wsip-70-184-14-138.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:26] i bet mayhem happened [01:26] ArmOrAttAk (n=armoratt@unaffiliated/armorattak) left irc: "Life is Grand!" [01:30] how many times have we seen that on IRC... "OK, let me try that"... *poof* user disappears [01:30] lol [01:31] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-24-10-209-162.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[01:38] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-136-207-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) returned to ##slackware. [01:39] if you had another pc, you could ssh in to see it it did resume and the problem is the display [01:40] Good call. I will do that when I get back home on monday. [01:40] Action: mooglenorph write down to-do [01:45] Nick change: rapid_ -> rapid [01:46] slack_fish (n=slack_fi@59.72.110.45) left irc: "‚»" [01:48] Tyrael_ (n=bart@c2224.upc-c.chello.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:48] Tyrael (n=bart@c2224.upc-c.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [01:49] nooper (i=nooper@2001:41c8:0:866:21c:c0ff:fe7f:7198) got netsplit. [01:49] straterr1 (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) got netsplit. [01:49] dimmerbold (i=dimbold@masterarms.net) got netsplit. [01:49] Blikjeham (n=Blikjeha@reson.soleus.nu) got netsplit. [01:49] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) got netsplit. [01:49] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) got netsplit. 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[01:53] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:00] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:03] lawlezz (n=lawless@125.27.167.49.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) joined ##slackware. [02:03] hi all [02:03] tank-man: suspend to disk and suspend to ram are two completely separate beasts. Suspend to ram relies more on the system's bios. suspend to disk is all linux [02:05] vatgas (n=val@123.145.51.209) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:07] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-15-65.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:08] hi all [02:08] CTCP PING: 1239516488 607032 from lawlezz (lawlezz!n=lawless@125.27.167.49.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) to ##slackware [02:09] wth [02:09] ping ur face [02:09] frullet (n=Bob@124-170-43-165.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [02:09] cool [02:10] sopas (n=souphead@222.127.94.107) joined ##slackware. [02:10] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [02:10] intresting but that doesnt seem to correlate with mooglenorph 's problem [02:10] vatgas (n=val@123.145.51.209) joined ##slackware. [02:10] i dont think he changed anything with his bios [02:12] vatgas (n=val@123.145.51.209) left irc: Client Quit [02:14] vatgas (n=val@123.145.51.209) joined ##slackware. [02:16] lawlezz (n=lawless@125.27.167.49.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) left irc: "[BX] Everybody was Kung Fu fighting!" [02:17] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) joined ##slackware. [02:19] this is strange... everytime I reboot, my clock is always off and I have to run ntp and sync it with a server [02:19] berkough: did you write the system time to the hardware clock? [02:20] hwclock --systohc [02:20] I don't remember what I selected when I installed it... set to UTC or something [02:20] berkough, cmos battery dying? [02:20] that might be a possibility, I'm not sure [02:20] just setting the system time won't update the hwclock though [02:21] older laptop, Thinkpad t20, and I have never changed out the cmos battery [02:21] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-67-65-198-218.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:21] Floops (n=baihu@floops.info) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:21] if you want to sync the hwclock to the system try this: ntpdate pool.ntp.org && hwclock --systohc [02:22] sweet, I'll give it a go [02:22] you might need to stop ntpd though [02:22] ./etc/rc.d/rc.ntpd stop then run those other commands [02:23] next time I reboot, if the clock is fucked up I'll be sure to stop the daemon and then run hwclock --systohc [02:24] stop the daemon, sync to the internet servers, then run hwclock [02:24] then you can restart ntpd [02:25] Floops (n=baihu@floops.info) joined ##slackware. [02:25] souphead (n=souphead@222.127.83.227) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:25] cool, thanks nullboy [02:26] nullboy: go to bed you geek [02:26] dood [02:26] lol [02:27] nullboy: this CA and EAP-TLS is pissing me off. I don't know what I did wrong. Just tried again using this as a guide. http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/8095/ [02:27] i went to bed at 2am and then i got up at 2pm [02:27] it's only 11pm still [02:27] 30 [02:27] Sun Apr 12 01:30:25 CDT 2009 [02:27] h8 :( [02:27] im sleepy [02:27] therefore you must be too [02:27] get over here and go to bed [02:28] chopp: i couldn't get freeradius to compile [02:28] drijen, you're living in the future, it's still 11:30pm on Saturday for me [02:28] i'm stuck with hostapd's implementation [02:28] that didn't sound so good... [02:28] berkough: yeah im from primer [02:29] nullboy: I'm still trying with hostapd. [02:29] chopp: another question i have; should i modify openssl.cnf or should i let it use the defaults, and how many ca's do i need? can 1 system be a CA for many others using self signed certs? [02:30] SunnyDP (n=scan@bas7-montrealak-1128545193.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [02:30] ukh (n=ukh@2001:16d8:ff36:2:221:ff:fe93:56c0) joined ##slackware. [02:30] oh man you're going to get me to start up on this again [02:31] nullboy: take a quick glance at the above url. It is very informative. Hey I'm giving up for today, so you can too. [02:32] yeah right i'm going to make this happen or throw it off the balcony [02:32] will i get to build a Linux distro from scratch if i use Slack? [02:32] no [02:32] we have LFS for that [02:32] perhaps you should define "scratch" [02:32] thats my problem, there IS no giving up. [02:32] LFS is good to do at least once [02:32] drijen: thanks [02:32] slack is somewhat minimal [02:32] crux is more minimal [02:32] but so are debian, arch, gentoo, etc [02:32] SunnyDP: do an LFS and use slackware as the mother system [02:33] define it [02:33] I was just looking at LFS earlier today, thinking it might be a fun project when I had a free weekend [02:33] SunnyDP: you'll learn so much your eyes will bleed [02:33] nullboy: thanks [02:33] ukh (n=ukh@2001:16d8:ff36:2:221:ff:fe93:56c0) left irc: Client Quit [02:33] LOL :D:D:D [02:33] nullboy: bleed tears of carebears and noobs? [02:34] tears of rainbow brite [02:34] lol [02:34] tasty! [02:34] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-67-65-198-218.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [02:36] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@ccx192.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:36] nullboy: when you have a chick over, do you put her head in that porthole/window thing you have there so she can enjoy the view whilst..... [02:37] seriously though, if someone partitions their disk into thirds, installs slackware first to its own partition and then uses slackware as the mother ship to LFS on its own partition and the packages for both distributions on the third partition...they will learn more than a year of college linux courses [02:37] chopp: hahaha [02:37] the opening scene of "Fast and Furious" almost broke my heart seeing that Grand National get all fucked up [02:37] nullboy: how does that work, i thought lfs was a set of scripts that helped you work out the chicken egg issue [02:38] never played with LFS. I should someday I guess. [02:38] drijen: it does but you can use a livecd from LFS to do it or you can use a mother system and chroot [02:38] psh, bare iron for me [02:38] hard on for the hard way [02:38] LFS is just instruction really [02:38] yeah [02:38] but LFS is a project [02:38] theres also some distro called T2 [02:40] TLS: Trusted root certificate(s) loaded [02:40] nl80211: Add own interface ifindex 6 [02:40] that's hostapd. now to sign a cert for my laptop with the ap's CA? [02:42] TLS: Trusted root certificate(s) loaded [02:42] TLS: Trusted root certificate(s) loaded Opening raw packet socket for ifindex -1211281743 [02:43] oops [02:43] hmm..I dont get the "nl80211: Add own interface ifindex 6" though [02:44] ahh..I see something wrong I think [02:44] nl80211: Added 802.11b mode based on 802.11g information [02:46] but I just had to restart because I hadn't seen that TLS: Trusted.....when I started it earlier. End of story for tonight. [02:46] do you think it is ok to use a domain name of .lan for the cert? [02:46] i don't have an internet live name [02:46] i just use .lan for my local lan anway [02:46] I'm also playing with that nullboy, guess we'll find out sooner or later if thats a problem. [02:47] what did you use for your CN? just lan or did you prefix it with the . ? [02:47] hmm i wonder what happens if we force it blank with just a single . [02:48] dunno if the I should have put the machine name in there as well but..slack.casebliss.com [02:49] frullet (n=Bob@124-170-43-165.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [02:49] probably better than what I'm trying. [02:49] mornin' [02:49] that's how i did it my first time but i need to figure out how to use 1 ca and create a cert for that server itself and then create certs for wifi and httpd [02:49] i want to keep all 4 separated [02:50] sign the 3 with the CA and then use that same CA for everything else i do [02:50] yes for sure. You have control over what there named so.. [02:51] i'm going to blow out /etc/ssl and reinstall openssl and the so package too [02:51] i feel tainted [02:51] nice to have a clean slate [02:52] zhoun (n=guo@58.33.83.243) joined ##slackware. [02:52] http://www.codealias.info/technotes/wpa2_eap-tls_authentication_linux_client_setup [02:53] zhoun (n=guo@58.33.83.243) left irc: Client Quit [02:53] it's slooow, and was down most of today. [02:53] i think i already pdfified that page [02:54] PKI SSL certificate management with OpenSSL ? [02:54] that is a link from the above yes [02:54] LOL teabagging Obama. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB22gw09c6U [02:56] chopp: do you need the pdf? [02:57] nullboy: look here, above "Configure apache" You end up having to clear CA/index.txt after the first batch of certs. No got it thanks. [02:57] http://www.bitwizardry.com/Members/criley/linux/creating-self-signed-certificates-for-apache [02:58] awesome thanks [02:59] no problem. caused me some wtf [02:59] hughszg (n=hugh_2@218.82.206.116) joined ##slackware. [03:01] troys (n=troys@68.165.100.2) left irc: [03:02] I think my problem now is wpa_supplicant.conf, but..more tomorrow [03:03] troys (n=troys@68.165.100.2) joined ##slackware. [03:06] take care, sleep well [03:07] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:07] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:07] thanks, but just kicked back with the lappy now. :) [03:08] waiting for nullboy to solve ALL our problems. ;) [03:08] lol [03:08] i'm so making this happen [03:08] SunnyDP (n=scan@bas7-montrealak-1128545193.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:09] I have faith in you. I can usually get shit happening, but it takes me longer than some of you guys. [03:10] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [03:11] so far so good with my ath5k AP anyway. [03:11] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:14] bijit (n=chatzill@200.122.188.156) joined ##slackware. [03:15] any perl gurus? [03:16] one thing I just thought of that I didn't change. "*@DOMAIN.COM" TLS in hostapd.eap_user [03:16] not I bijit [03:17] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-170-151-178.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:18] so what's the deal here? is this needed? [03:18] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/12569 [03:18] i entered the password for the pem but i don't know what this is for [03:18] neonflux: how many times does you're client join/part ##slackware in one day anyway? [03:19] chopp: my hostapd.eap_user is just "*" TLS [03:19] actualy no quotes [03:20] do you know if i should or should not enter a challenge password? [03:20] for the CA i should but not for httpd right? [03:20] from what I understand nullboy, it's not required. I did it the first time, and had the info in wpa_supplicant.conf, but not this time. [03:21] harls (n=harls@c-98-204-57-154.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:22] when I did this the first time, everything was in blah.p12, and then I did the certs on the client. It was needed to open the .p12 [03:23] if that makes any sense to you. Like in your pdf I think. [03:23] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-170-151-178.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:24] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) left irc: "Where ever you may be, be well. Namarië." [03:24] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) joined ##slackware. [03:33] nullboy: does it seem to you that the server_keycert.pem [03:34] vatgas (n=val@123.145.51.209) left irc: "Leaving." [03:34] aport` (n=aport`@ip68-8-55-162.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:34] is the is the ca_cert in wpa_supplicant.conf? [03:35] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/12570 [03:35] wtf [03:35] lol..thats where that "clear the index.txt" comes in. [03:36] oh man lmao (2009-04-11 23:59:58) chopp: no problem. caused me some wtf [03:36] wtf is right [03:37] sopas (n=souphead@222.127.94.107) left irc: "Leaving" [03:37] yup lol. But WHY is that not mentioned in the cert instructions is beyond me. [03:39] thats a blah box you have there. [03:40] well i'm afraid some leet lurking h4x0r will get my gibson [03:41] ioctl[SIOCSIWMODE]: Device or resource busy [03:41] Association request to the driver failed [03:41] is what I got last time,and hey I understand. [03:44] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:44] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:45] that might have been because I was checking out this famous wicd that everyone is talking about;), and it was still running. doh [03:46] grevus (n=greve@61.17.165.233) joined ##slackware. [03:47] speaking of such, tomorrow nullboy can you pastebin me your wpa_supplicant.conf. I messed mine up today, and can't as of yet locate my backup. [03:48] of course I have it working, but its minimal [03:49] Does anyone here use esmpt from SBo? [03:50] *esmtp [03:50] noizze (n=noise@p549CF9CD.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [03:50] I'm still looking for a good xmms replacment, audacious isnt one [03:51] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [03:52] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-18-56-103.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [03:52] foah [03:52] i think i understnad the serial issue [03:52] our CA and our first server certs both are the same host [03:53] we wouldn't get the error if we had a separated CA [03:53] yes that makes sense [03:53] vatgas (n=val@123.145.52.98) joined ##slackware. [03:56] Ficthe (n=grieve@unaffiliated/ficthe) joined ##slackware. [03:57] for some reason, ctrl + alt + f1/6 isn't switching tty's, any idea why that could be? [03:57] easy to work around though. I don't think another CA is required. [03:57] CygnusX1 (n=CygnusX1@c-69-245-162-6.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:02] what runlevel do you use Ficthe ? [04:14] Fried_Bob (n=Fried@c-98-233-149-9.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:14] hughszg (n=hugh_2@218.82.206.116) left ##slackware. [04:22] Ficthe (n=grieve@unaffiliated/ficthe) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:28] the slackwiki ssl entry helps [04:28] helps a lot actually [04:29] what do you mean nullboy? [04:29] alisonken1home1 (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:29] well i find that if i flounder this much i better just start from the beginning [04:29] so i'm starting with just simple certificate generations [04:30] I also need to play with it further. [04:30] chopp: look at the crt for clients section [04:30] aport` (n=aport`@ip68-8-55-162.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [04:30] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060015e964b923.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [04:30] see, i was just confused as to what file is what [04:30] i didn't even know wtf i was doing [04:31] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [04:31] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night"). [04:31] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060015e964b923.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:31] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:31] that is how we should generate our wpa_supplicant client certs [04:32] FriedBob (n=Fried@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:32] ii'm going to create directories for httpd and hostapd, then i will sign those with my CA. then i will create hostapd client certs and sign them against just the hostapd cert [04:32] that way the CA is distanced from a breech on the AP [04:32] i can void the hostapd cert and not worry about it killing httpd and the CA [04:34] yes, if your creating certs for other things, it makes total sense to me. [04:34] at some point i will so i want to learn this stuff before i have to know it [04:35] I've played with certs for apache, but needed to spend more time understanding the whole process. [04:37] most times I think an AP and apache would be on seperate box though. [04:44] I really don't know whats going on with me and slackwiki. The last couple of days I can't get anywhere. [04:45] well the AP could be using apache though [04:45] that's my plan [04:45] i want the AP to use apache for redirections and captive portals [04:46] yes true enough. [04:49] any idea as to why I'm getting nothing on slackwiki? [04:51] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.7.104) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:57] Anybody here know how to get virtualbox addons working in a virtualbox slackware guest? I'm running -current in the vbox [04:58] specifically, do I need anything special in xorg.conf to get pointer integration and window resizing working? [05:00] I installed the addons packages from slackbuilds.org, and they installed fine. I added the requisite lines to rc.local. I just don't know what to do next [05:01] hiya. i'm trying to using slackpkg to upgrade packages but the packages it lists as available to upgrade to do not correspond to the packages i see when i browse the ftp site i've set as my chosen mirror, despite having used the 'update' command to sync. any ideas please? [05:01] *trying to use.. [05:08] Sweet, just adding Driver "vboxvideo" and Driver "vboxmouse" to the right sections of xorg.conf made everything work great [05:15] giuppy (n=giuppy@host160-163-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:16] njathan (i=cb73470a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b86ee6da09671793) joined ##slackware. [05:17] njathan (i=cb73470a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b86ee6da09671793) left irc: Client Quit [05:22] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.89.213) joined ##slackware. [05:24] how much download does it take to upgrade almost stock 12.2 to current? [05:26] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:28] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [05:29] ok [05:29] hostapd is happy with my .p12 [05:29] john_dee, I'm guessing pretty much the whole tree is new (a ton of it is anyway) I just installed -current from scratch, and it was a 1.6G download (packages only, no kdei) [05:29] now to make my client wpa_supplicant.conf happy [05:30] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.7.104) joined ##slackware. [05:30] yeah, I think I know the mistakes I made. [05:31] deathmoniac (n=eva00@200-103-150-200.ctame706.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:32] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:33] nathanbw, at least not the whole dvd [05:33] nathanbw, and what's the procedure? it's about time to take a look at brand new shiny kde4. lol :D [05:35] john_dee, I pulled current to my local machine with rsync. (pulling only the slackware, isolinux, and kernels directories from /slackware-current, and using --exclude kdei) [05:35] nullboy: didn't you have to still create the certs from the .p12? [05:35] i created certs first [05:35] and then made the .p12 [05:36] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:36] john_dee: i recommend you to use slackpkg or slackroll [05:36] yes ok, same asI did the first time myself. [05:37] smica (n=smica@91.146.170.241) joined ##slackware. [05:37] then I used alienBOB's http://www.slackware.com/~alien/tools/mirror-slackware-current.sh and passed it ' -l /path/to/local/mirror -i -o DVD ' to create a bootable DVD image. [05:38] But I know it should be simple to use mkisofs directly to create a bootable DVD from the local tree. I've never used slackpkg or slackroll, they may be great :-) [05:39] john_dee, and KDE4 is schweet [05:40] Shuren (n=Devilman@host62-170-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "In silence we still talk..." [05:40] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:40] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.148.123.80) left irc: "Saliendo" [05:41] giuppy (n=giuppy@host160-163-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Nick collision from services. [05:41] has there been any known problems with proftpd not authenticating correctly? [05:41] chopp: do you have your wpa_supplicant.conf available? [05:41] giuppy (n=giuppy@host68-171-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:42] it used to work, i never changed anything. I might have updated it though some time ago. [05:42] aport` (n=aport`@ip68-8-55-162.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [05:42] great, virtual machine and host both decide to run updatedb at the same time :-( [05:42] i just tried to reinstall with the default conf, still cant get my non-root user to login [05:42] logs in fine with ssh [05:42] and it's the first run of updatedb for the vm [05:42] Shuren (n=Devilman@host62-170-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:43] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) joined ##slackware. [05:44] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Network is unreachable [05:44] nathanbw, nice :) but i'll refrain from messing with partitions right now. better try slackpkg. it's test box after all. not a big problem if it goes wtf %) [05:45] rg3, i've used slackpkg already so it has a mirror specified. how do i go from this point? [05:45] jnz (n=jnz_@host129-198-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:46] deathmon1ac (n=eva00@200-103-145-71.ctame706.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:46] nullboy: this I tried today, but I don't think it was the problem but... http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/12578 [05:46] john_dee: slackpkg can be used to upgrade between different versions of slackware, and i would take an upgrade to -current, at this point, to be roughly the same [05:47] john_dee: basically, the process is usually: upgrade glibc-solibs, sed and pkgtools; install new packages; upgrade upgradeable packages; remove packages which have been removed [05:47] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-9.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:48] nullboy: and a situation using the .p12 to create the client certs http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/12577 [05:48] john_dee: and i think slackpkg has operations to perform those easily [05:48] Heya,folks...How's everyone? [05:50] SiegeX: I seem to remember having the same problem with proftpd. Been awhile though. [05:50] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [05:50] rg3, hmm. is there any noob-style manual available? [05:52] Nick change: Patzy_ -> Patzy [05:52] aha! [05:52] john_dee: the manpage for slackpkg, for sure, and you should also take a look at http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/UPGRADE.TXT, which is the document that explained how to upgrade to slackware 12.2, so you can see the process for yourself [05:52] apparently ProFTPd does not like bash 4.0 [05:52] john_dee: i mean it will be similar for the next release [05:53] chopp: where the fsck does this come from identity="XXXXX@yourdomain.com" [05:53] the docs for this stuff suck [05:53] this shit is so lame [05:54] nullboy: ain't that the truth! [05:55] that was the last thing I was going to add back into .conf [05:56] jnz (n=jnz_@host129-198-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "ciao!" [05:57] jnz (n=jnz_@host129-198-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:59] Nick change: jnz -> jnz_ [06:00] chopp: typo in the paranoid penguin $ cat server_key.pem server.cert.pem > \ [06:00] server_keycert.pem [06:00] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [06:00] strike that, the problem was that /usr/bin/bash (where i put my 4.0) is not in /etc/shells [06:00] should be server_cert.pem instead of server.cert.pem [06:01] bijit (n=chatzill@200.122.188.156) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032608]" [06:01] john_dee: but no doubt, if you see this is too complicated for you, the other best option is precisely what nathanbw was explaining: create an installation dvd with the contents of slackware-current, and simply install it from scratch [06:01] bijit (n=benji@200.122.188.156) joined ##slackware. [06:01] john_dee: it will be like installing a stable release, but with the packages of -current as they are today [06:03] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@ccx192.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:03] nullboy: lol...sorry I forgot, it bit me too. [06:05] i'm getting close [06:06] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host129-198-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "ciao!" [06:06] keeping me up with anticipation you are, :) [06:06] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host129-198-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [06:08] yht (n=yht@114.121.40.75) joined ##slackware. [06:08] rg3, tnx. i think i'll try to handle slackpkg :) [06:09] dive, u there [06:11] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:13] rg3, i'm more worried about my greedy provider's traffic limit and dialup age speeds after exceeding it [06:23] mooglenorph (n=user@wsip-70-184-14-138.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:24] nullboy: did you see the comments on the bottom! might want to read this one: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8095#comment-130363 [06:25] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: "Leaving" [06:26] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.12) joined ##slackware. [06:27] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: "Happy Easter!" [06:30] well it's so close. [06:30] i just can't get my wpa_supplicant.conf working [06:30] why nukedclx [06:30] ops [06:30] nullboy, [06:31] Fried_Bob (n=Fried@c-98-233-149-9.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:31] Fried_Bob (n=Fried@c-98-233-149-9.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:31] |kevlinux| (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:32] did you see the comment about different Common name for the client cert? [06:38] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:39] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-9.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [06:41] client-side keys housed in smartcards....awsome [06:42] takes me back to my satellite playing days. [06:43] only for educational purposes I might add. [06:46] tabb0t (n=tabb0t@122.172.123.175) joined ##slackware. [06:47] tabb0t (n=tabb0t@122.172.123.175) left irc: Client Quit [06:47] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:47] I best quit talking to myself, or someone will be calling me TwinReverb [06:49] MrDusty (n=dusty@217.155.141.46) joined ##slackware. [06:50] Action: chopp pokes nullboy with an old linkie dinkie access point. 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[07:11] Fried_Bob (n=Fried@c-98-233-149-9.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:11] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: "Leaving" [07:13] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [07:15] crontab does not seem to work. Why not? [07:15] What could cause a crontab command not to work? [07:19] FrEYEdBob (n=Fried@c-98-233-149-9.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:20] how does it not work? what is the expected outcome and what is really happening? [07:20] pankracy (n=pankracy@fatcat.ftj.agh.edu.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:21] Nick change: atha_ -> atha [07:23] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:24] I tested with 13 06 * * * /home/cap/bin/wake-up-alarm [07:24] and did nothing. [07:24] this is the one I want to work: [07:24] 6 * * 1-4 /home/cap/bin/wake-up-alarm [07:24] 0 06 * * 1-4 /home/cap/bin/wake-up-alarm [07:25] missed part of it. [07:25] Here is wake-up-alarm: http://pastebin.com/ff6c3282 [07:26] 13 6 * * * /home/cap/bin/wake-up-alarm [07:26] at 6:13 am every day [07:28] .sh might do the trick? [07:28] chopp: ahhh... ok [07:28] grevus (n=greve@61.17.165.233) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:30] 28 06 * * * sh /home/cap/bin/wake-up-alarm [07:30] Test ^^ [07:30] didn't work. [07:30] i hope the script work "in hand" :P [07:30] hummmm..... [07:30] 6, not 06 [07:31] wake-up-alarm.sh [07:31] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:31] ok trying again. [07:31] didn't work. [07:31] ??? [07:31] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:31] 29 6 * * * sh /home/cap/bin/wake-up-alarm did not work. [07:31] does just running the script work? [07:32] yes [07:32] what time is it for you now? [07:32] you are putting in crontab of any User? [07:32] it has to be properly named in crontab too [07:33] as far as I can tell, it is. [07:33] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:33] like tank-man said, can you run it? [07:33] killall -HUP crond [07:33] restart the daemon [07:34] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:35] how to restart. Just give command crontab [07:35] ? [07:35] killall -HUP crond [07:35] crond: no process killed [07:36] hahhahahahahahah [07:36] so.......???? [07:36] lol [07:36] crond [07:36] please [07:37] how to start crond? [07:37] crond [07:37] please [07:37] /usr/sbin/crond: Permission denied [07:38] su - [07:38] nille (i=1000@c-2163e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [07:38] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14512 2006-12-13 16:28 /usr/sbin/crond [07:38] run the command crond as the superuser root [07:38] tank-man: thanks, i not speak english, heheh [07:38] aaa_elflibs in current should it be upgraded? [07:39] it sound like it on the changelog [07:39] nille: no, aaa_elflibs is a package that should never be upgraded [07:39] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14512 2006-12-13 16:28 /usr/sbin/cr [07:39] Ok... [07:39] is it needed at all on an full install? [07:40] nille: it's needed during installation, but you should not upgrade it ever [07:40] tnx [07:40] nater__ (n=nater@68-187-107-216.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:41] usr13: it? [07:41] thats what i thought thanks rg3 [07:41] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:41] nille: in fact, if you have a full installation or trust that you have everything needed for a base system to work, you can remove aaa_elflibs (i removed mine long ago and didn't break anything...) [07:42] thanks then i got that right [07:42] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:43] hmm, usr13's "ls -l" listing of crond has a different time than mine, off by 2 hrs, his timezone is off by 2hrs vs me too [07:43] 16:28 vs 14:28 for him vs me respectively [07:43] thats weird [07:44] Mitch (n=Mitch@24-179-248-62.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [07:45] Nick change: Mitch -> pRoToCoL79 [07:45] why? only other distro, heheh [07:45] pRoToCoL79 (n=Mitch@24-179-248-62.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left ##slackware. [07:45] you think? hehe [07:46] we got fooled into helping a ubuntu user probably [07:46] :) [07:46] after installing slackware is there a program where i can add a swap partition [07:46] Here are the 08:46 [07:46] because i didnt make one when i installed it [07:47] kama (n=kama@host140-31-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:47] If I remember correctly he was run out of here a long time ago, so that may very well be. :) [07:47] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:48] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) joined ##slackware. [07:48] brucelee: install new, or if you no longer have space, you can create a swap on a file [07:48] nater (n=nater@68-187-107-216.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [07:48] is there a way to do it without installing new [07:49] re-install that VM [07:49] brucelee, do you have free space on the harddrive not used by any partitions? [07:49] i have free space [07:49] but its in use by the main partition [07:49] brucelee: yes, mkswap(8) and swapon(8) [07:49] :p [07:49] good practice [07:50] I do not use the swap because of the SSD [07:50] :p [07:50] Action: chopp dropkicks brucelee agaain [07:50] :( [07:50] you can use a "gparted" boot cd to resize your main partition, of course backup first :P [07:50] OH god, he's back [07:51] frullet: sadly enough. Where is that good habbit of nailing people to a cross these days :) [07:51] [in bed] [07:52] zzz [07:53] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:53] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [07:55] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426051.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:55] BP{k}: that wont work, he will only re-appear a few days later [07:55] that's a point. [07:57] ilj_ (n=ilj@195.216.212.3) joined ##slackware. [07:57] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. 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[09:11] downwater (i=1000@ram94-8-88-165-232-7.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [09:11] helo [09:11] *hello :) [09:11] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@ccx192.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:12] anybody tried to compile xfe under slackware ? Succeed, but got aliased font display (works with fox toolkit) [09:13] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/xfe/ <-- seems so. [09:13] http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10209580-92.html Google uncloaks once-secret server [09:13] indeed [09:13] thanks :) [09:14] seriouslycgi (n=seriousl@116.90.129.43) joined ##slackware. [09:15] is anyone familiar with slitaz distro? im trying to add a user to different groups like audio but its just not working (the original user they set up does however) [09:16] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:17] no /etc/group ? [09:17] im checking that out now [09:18] seriouslycgi: I don't get it.. this is a slackware channel.. and you're asking about slitaz [09:18] Dominian, its based on slackware or slax i think [09:18] i figured someone would know [09:18] another one of those "well its based on slackware" [09:19] my cats based on slackware does that mean i can get kernel help in here or should i go elsewhere for that:P [09:19] yeah theres not much documentation i had no idea where to turn to [09:19] lol, its not based on slackware, but when i downloaded it i was reading about slackware at distrowatch, does that count? [09:19] I doubt it is based on slackware. [09:19] we don't support it [09:19] "The format of the packages using the *.tazpkg extension is a cpio archive containing a filesystem compressed with gzip, a receipt and an optional description" [09:19] ^^^ sound likem a receipe for an almighty clusterfuck [09:20] ok next time ill go ask in #debian i doubt they will get offended about noobs asking for help [09:20] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@83.11.57.61) joined ##slackware. [09:20] ask in #zenwalk [09:20] they reallydont care [09:20] don't they have a forum? [09:20] yeah and i searched it [09:20] seriouslycgi: Point is, how that distro handles things could differ quite a bit from what Slackawre does.. [09:20] irc channel? [09:20] seriouslycgi: have you tried the slitaz irc channel? [09:20] seriouslycgi: and so far, if the distro has that horrible of support.. then why use it? [09:21] harls (n=harls@c-98-204-57-154.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:21] 9 users and someone answered as i typed in here :s after a few hours of waiting [09:21] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [09:21] seriouslycgi: The SliTaz IRC channel provides realtime Hg activity and support: irc.toile-libre.org #slitaz [09:21] break out the torches & pitchforks :D [09:21] You don't take your motorcycle to a HVAC technician and say "here.. fix it" do you? [09:21] Dominian, its fast [09:22] Slackware is fast too.. what's your point? [09:22] Nick change: yht -> yht|keluar-makan [09:22] Pig_Pen: please .. lets at least be a bit more in tune with the day, today? [09:22] Pig_Pen: bring some crosses, a hammer and some nails ... ;) [09:22] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-112-78.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:22] the site looks nice, but, I have no idea how the system functions [09:22] Dominian, why so hostile? [09:22] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-112-78.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [09:23] BP{k}: i am just an old fashioned kind of guy [09:24] seriouslycgi: I'm not being hostile.. I can if you wish. [09:24] seriouslycgi: we will be very happy to help you if/when you install slackware. this channel is ##slackware [09:25] seriouslycgi: But you have to see it from our point of view.. you come in here wanting help with a distribution that we have no idea how it operates and more than likely never heard of it until just when you came in [09:25] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:25] i never heard of slitaz before just now [09:25] Me neither. [09:25] me neither [09:27] http://www.slitaz.org/en/ it says it is a GNU/Linux so it should have the same files most all distros use, /etc/group, shadow, host, xorg.conf, (you know the drill) [09:27] im comming from debian so you get alot of ubuntu is similar to debian questions etc i figured things might work differently in slackware, and i think slitaz is slackware based? i thought if anyone would know how it would be some slackware pros [09:27] its ~30mb live cd [09:27] slitaz sounds like bubbas ass crack. [09:28] lol [09:28] seriouslycgi: We don't support slax, backtrack $DISTROBASEDONSLACKWARE here anyway. [09:29] well ill know not to come inhere for any help until i install slackware [09:29] i mean that in a nice way [09:30] seriouslycgi: I understand. checkout the manual at slackbook.org if/when you become interested in slackware. we will be here:) [09:30] kewl :) [09:30] possibly soon :D [09:31] Shuren (n=Devilman@host62-170-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "In silence we still talk..." [09:31] njathan (i=1000@203.115.79.84) joined ##slackware. [09:31] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-112-78.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:31] thanks anyway guys and gals [09:31] XGizzmo (n=XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) left irc: "leaving" [09:31] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-112-78.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [09:31] have a good one [09:31] XGizzmo (n=XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [09:31] you too [09:31] seriouslycgi (n=seriousl@116.90.129.43) left irc: "Leaving" [09:33] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060015e97b42ff.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:34] i am trying to have multiple vhosts on localhost, and am quite sure i am goofing up in the httpd.conf file. Everytime i open up example2.com or example1.org, i always end up with phpmyadmin page. http://pastebin.com/d38907bb7 Help anyone? [09:37] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:44] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left ##slackware. [09:44] njathan, this is more like an #apache channel question .. and how do you test for example www.example1.org on your localhost ? [09:45] you must have in /etc/hosts added the www.example1.org domain like .... ip www.example1.org [09:45] ALVAN, oh i managed to resolve with help in #httpd. And about example1.org, i just do a /etc/hosts entry [09:46] you need to do have for all example.* /etc/hosts entries .. else some examples might not work [09:47] nater (n=nater@68-187-107-216.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:49] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:52] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:52] njathan (i=1000@203.115.79.84) left irc: "Leaving" [09:59] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC0351E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:00] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host87-32-dynamic.13-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:02] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [10:04] pi31415 (n=chatzill@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:04] http://media.fukung.net/images/11950/5b58857fb7f67b8ee743649317d08a2d.jpg [10:04] New background [10:05] oops, http://fukung.net/v/11950/5b58857fb7f67b8ee743649317d08a2d.jpg [10:05] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [10:08] Shuren (n=Devilman@host62-170-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:08] Gargantua, omfg! what kind of substances the author of the picture is using?! [10:09] There is only one substance, and that is Bob. [10:09] bobhadababyitsaboy [10:09] :o [10:12] clamiax (n=clamiax@unaffiliated/clamiax) joined ##slackware. [10:12] hi [10:14] ilj_ (n=ilj@195.216.212.3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:16] Gatto (n=hearl@host39-65-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [10:16] Gargantua: well for one it's "Bob" (not Bob), two the substance would be called `Frop` (or fully: Habafropzipulops) [10:17] Damn, you are the superior subgenius :( [10:18] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [10:20] I didn't even care to read the entirety of the wikipedia article. [10:20] lol [10:22] http://gallery.photo.net/photo/6303119-lg.jpg [10:23] sherlock holmes? ;) [10:23] Like an English Bob Dobbs [10:25] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC0351E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:25] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.89.213) left irc: "Leaving." [10:27] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [10:30] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[11:20] hi guys [11:22] bruc3 (n=bruc3@189.56.20.108) left irc: "[BX] You can /quit any time you like, but you can never leave" [11:22] superGear (n=superGea@8.7.69.30) joined ##slackware. [11:25] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [11:25] SBo down? [11:26] ask SBo i guess [11:27] ... [11:27] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:27] well then i guess it is. i cant ping it [11:27] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@189.52.147.209) joined ##slackware. [11:27] sigh... [11:27] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@189.52.147.209) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:30] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC02E70.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:31] works for me. [11:31] for me to [11:32] AbsTradE1ic (n=vldmr@189.52.147.209) joined ##slackware. [11:34] ... hmm [11:34] i got it to pull up with konqueror... [11:34] Action: Cann0n uninstalls FF3 [11:42] nixnix (n=misspwna@209.150.205.130) left irc: "Leaving" [11:44] Matt_____ (n=matt@cpc1-warr1-0-0-cust642.bagu.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Operation timed out [11:50] Action: antler uninstalls Cann0n [11:52] heh [11:53] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.133.138) joined ##slackware. [11:54] looks like television will be swammped with a bunch of stupid jesus and easter crap all day [11:56] lol......happy easter to you too, Pig_Pen. I share your sentiments as well, I'm not a church goer.......maybe the church of the subgenius [11:57] oh, the grinh of easter, i see. antler holds Pig_Pen while jesus and the bunny give him shots to the ribs [11:57] *grinch [11:57] lol [11:59] i am a devout atheist, i consider religion to be a social nerosis (a disease of civilization) [11:59] the opiate of the masses [12:00] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [12:00] he, chocolate eggs ftw ! [12:00] the best story about jesus i ever seen what the SouthPark cartoon where jesus and santa clause have a fight (like celebrety deathmatch) [12:00] Nick change: fadein_ -> fadein [12:00] zlizyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:01] santa uses the suplex on jesus [12:01] mornin folks [12:01] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:02] hi drijen [12:02] hello drijen [12:02] AbsTradE1ic (n=vldmr@189.52.147.209) left irc: "leaving" [12:03] fsckin infidelic heathen... [12:03] :D [12:04] hitest: what happened after santa suplexed jesus? The tooth fairy dropped an elbow smash on his head? [12:05] oh, there's backlog to investigate... [12:05] jesus used a roundhouse kick followed by a headlock to santa. santa is re-grouping as we speak [12:06] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: "goodbye" [12:06] oh noes! keep me posted on this battle of imaginary titans! [12:06] lol [12:06] pirving (n=john@cpe-72-224-172-94.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:06] FSM be praised [12:07] you guys realize that the number of pirates INCREASED last year while overall global temperatures DECREASED [12:07] apologies, overall average global temperature indicators [12:07] pirates are cool [12:07] you know what that means, right? [12:08] not in this context [12:08] it pretty much proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the flying spaghetti monster exists and is touching things with his noodly appendage [12:08] sharizz (n=shariz@192.228.244.97) left irc: [12:08] i will pray for each of you! [12:08] heathens [12:08] nukedclx_ (n=nukedclx@actd61.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:08] http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/ [12:09] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426051.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:09] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [12:10] nukedclx_ (n=nukedclx@actd61.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Client Quit [12:10] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@actd61.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:10] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-40.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [12:11] eviljames: the 'hate mail' section is funny heh [12:11] hahah yea [12:11] anyone successfully upgraded Xorg-server to 1.6? [12:12] nukedclx: There are a lOT of upgrades involved there. [12:12] antler: but if you check his graph, temp. increases while piracy decreases. [12:12] antler: in 2008 there was only 1 data point that mattered. the decrease of temp. cross referenced with the increase of piracy. [12:13] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426051.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:13] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426051.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:13] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host87-32-dynamic.13-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "byez" [12:13] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426051.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:15] nukedclx: no xorg, but i did hack a xfree86 install in to slackware-12.2 [12:16] 1. install slack without xorg, 2. download and build xfree86 3.????? 4. profit! [12:16] 3 = migraine [12:17] drijen: ++ [12:17] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.160.163) joined ##slackware. [12:17] what would cool the planet would be a volcanic eruption to blast metric tons of ash in to the upper atmosphere, [12:17] Urgleflogue (n=plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [12:17] I disagree. [12:17] no> [12:18] ? [12:18] I'm pretty sure increasing piracy will work. [12:18] I'm doing my part, visting TPB every few days to see what the new releases are.. [12:18] eviljames: hahah data dates back to 1820 [12:18] Floops (n=baihu@floops.info) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:18] fire up those p2p apps to save the planet! [12:18] lovin the hate mail [12:19] i need Xorg, because its required by my driver graphics [12:19] hypocryisy is hot [12:19] i think the government & military should select a large active volcano and drop a nuke on it to try and make it erupt [12:19] My favorite hate mails are the ones that are really concerned about him. [12:20] The angry ones are half-troll, the concerned ones are priceless. ie: "Have you considered abandoning this nonsense and believing in MY nonsense?" [12:20] lol [12:20] "God made us in his image. Are we made to look like spaghetti? Think about it. Use LOGIC. It is as simple as that." HAHAH [12:21] the belief in god is a delusion, they make me angry with their chronic ignorance sometimes, when there is a wealth of evidence proving evolution they keep believing in some primitive superstition about some invisible god in the sky watching everything you do at every moment of the day [12:21] "Who made the ingredients to make your god? I just encourage you to use common sense and think about the fact that you are worshipping a meal." [12:21] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-119-51.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [12:22] Sweet zombie jesus it's pprkut! [12:22] rofl [12:22] '...a meal' [12:22] hi pprkut [12:22] antler: No doubt, eh? Those two quotes were pulled from the same concerned letter... [12:23] Pig_Pen: If you ask only the 30 and under crowd, I think you'd be hard pressed to get more than 30% deists/theists. [12:23] you guys ever heard of the school pensecola christian college? [12:23] Pig_Pen: That's not to say that over-30's are particularly theistic, but it seems more prevalent there. [12:23] yeah in most places, but not in the bible belt where i think the percentage is higher [12:23] google their rulebook :p [12:24] drijen: I can already tell that if I saw it on a resume I'd discount any experience garnered there :D [12:24] no no read their rulebook [12:24] its *insane* [12:24] hey drijen [12:24] he's all knowing & all powerfull, but it seems he just cant handle money, his servants are always asking for money in his behalf [12:24] Pig_Pen: hahah RIP george carlin! [12:24] yeah [12:25] "...he's all knowing, all powerful... and he needs MONEY! " iirc [12:26] if you ask why they might say to help the poor, the best way to help the poor is by not becoming one of them, contribute a little food & clothing, but dont give them money because they would just spend it on booze :D [12:26] zlizyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:28] http://www.venganza.org/2008/11/11/ive-tried/ [12:28] god hates war? [12:29] didn't read his bible much did he, poor baby [12:30] dtanner (n=dtanner@adsl-75-54-86-20.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "parted /dev/sda" [12:30] WTF is that guy babbling about [12:31] same thing they do every night pinky [12:31] I won't be too much more critical, because english probably isn't his mother tongue [12:31] but wow [12:32] that might have made sense in chinese, but google translate did a number on it... [12:33] the old testament is full of blood, violence & war & death [12:33] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat076.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:33] yea, and its sequel sucks... [12:33] kinda like Dan Brown! [12:33] Fzza3a (n=Fzza3a@41.221.17.52) joined ##slackware. [12:34] join #sbopkg [12:34] the new testament is more like a science fiction fantasy, too many blatent impossibalities [12:34] sorry [12:34] holy smokes .... >20 pages of hate mail? lol [12:34] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@actd61.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:34] its like a scientology attack [12:35] i don't like attacking scientology any more or less than christianity or islam. [12:35] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@actd61.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:35] Zxcvb (n=not_tell@173-23-208-198.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [12:35] it's just another take on the same nonsense, really. [12:35] no i mean how scientology goes after people [12:35] they are all full of bullsh!t [12:35] ahh [12:35] THAT otoh is horrid. [12:35] how do you purge the disk cache (all of it, even the read cache)? [12:35] like a rabid dog [12:36] the what now? [12:36] Zxcvb: to ensure cleanliness at power down? [12:36] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-67-65-198-218.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [12:36] Zxcvb: you talking bout /tmp? [12:36] Zxcvb: because iirc it would be driver-level, even before fs. those details are supposed to be abstracted away from the user [12:36] eviljames: to ensure that after I copy a bunch of files to a USB drive, when I use md5sum to check that they have been written correctly the files are read from disk, not the copies in ram [12:37] eviljames: I would prefer not to have to reboot [12:37] I'd have to look it up to be 100% sure, but I'm maybe 90% on the answer to this question: [12:37] flush the buffers? [12:37] you only have to care when you unplug the device, ensuring that it is unmounted [12:38] eviljames: but as the files were copied from my local hard drive, they will still be in ram [12:38] yes [12:38] but the fs itself (iirc) abstracts that detail away from md5sum [12:38] edman007_ (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:38] eviljames: that is the problem, no way to verify the files on disk were copied correctly [12:38] well, rsync [12:39] eviljames: so how does rsync bypass that abstraction? [12:39] but [12:39] yea, I was just gonna go there :D [12:39] that abstraction isn't something you can really get around [12:39] so unmount, unplug, replug, remount [12:39] and check then [12:39] eviljames: and reboot [12:39] no [12:40] no reboot, unmounting the device will flush the device [12:41] wow WAY too much sugar in my coffee how did that happen?! [12:41] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [12:43] Zxcvb: also, the commits to disk happen probably more frequently than you think [12:43] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-119-51.lijbrandt.net) left irc: "never push the red button... never... oops..." [12:44] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-119-51.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [12:44] Mess[i]ah (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [12:45] vatgas (n=val@123.145.52.98) left irc: "Leaving." [12:45] vatgas1 (n=val@123.145.52.98) joined ##slackware. [12:47] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:48] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [12:48] Nick change: Mess[i]ah -> Emess [12:49] uh oh. the e-messiah heard me talking and showed up to crush the party [12:49] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [12:49] kill him! [12:49] wow! i guess fvwm did not like that tweak [12:49] it killed X [12:49] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.160.163) left irc: "leaving" [12:49] Pig_Pen: screenie! [12:49] wow indeed. [12:49] one moment please [12:50] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [12:50] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-40.dial.telus.net) left irc: "User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby" [12:50] I was disappointed to see that Falling Down only had a few dozen seeders. [12:51] falling down? [12:51] And yet, somethingorother benjamin button had thousands. [12:51] http://imagebin.org/45215 decent but not spectacular [12:51] Falling Down. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106856/ [12:51] :) [12:52] damn good movie [12:52] oh yeah that was on tv [12:53] Such a good movie, I'd bet the tv version doesn't do it justice. [12:53] eviljames: going to have to remember that movie title and look for it in TV guide [12:53] eviljames: this is more fitting http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0486358/?fr=PWdvfHNjPTF8bG09NTAwfGZiPXV8eD0wfHR0PTF8bXg9MjB8eT0wfGh0bWw9MXxjaD0xf [12:53] Pig_Pen: rent it. it's worth the few bucks. [12:53] made for TV edited movies do suck [12:54] drijen: Horror flicks are for Haloween, my friend. [12:54] lmao [12:54] yeah, or next time i visit my brother check to see if he has it on DVD [12:54] eviljames: great answer [12:54] heh, I have my moments. [12:54] I haven't watched that movie, I don't expect that I will, the premise is pretty terrifying though. [12:56] antler: I'd say probably buy it, it'll be in Blockbuster's bargain bin for nearly the same price as a rental. [12:56] antler: and it's worth having on the shelf, imho [12:56] eviljames: totally. (i do own it, along with douglas's other good one, 'the game') [12:57] lulz@ douglas' other good one [12:57] hahah [12:57] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [12:58] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:58] Considering how long of a career that guy has had, I'm kinda surprised that those are the only movies by him that you or I like. [12:58] heh, you too? :P [12:58] wait [12:58] he was in Traffic [12:59] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@actd61.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:59] Action: eviljames had to look through imdb [12:59] I don't really know much of his other work :D [12:59] oh... i do own that as well, but i don't really like it [12:59] basic instinct? [13:00] or fatal attraction? [13:00] fatal's better [13:00] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Bye, Slackers:)" [13:00] then there's black rain.... all pretty good, but not quite in the same category as those two mentioned above [13:01] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:01] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:01] fair enough I'd say [13:01] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:02] oh man... saw 'kung fu panda' last night w/ wife. good movie. :) [13:03] DeiBellum (n=rwaters@dhcp132159.salley.fsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [13:03] antler: got that on blu ray... [13:04] does anyone have the .SlackBuild for proftpd 1.3.2? [13:04] lns40: nice :D [13:05] :-) [13:05] I know the package is on the Slackware site but i need to make changes to the Slackbuild to include encryption [13:05] just get the slackware slackbuild and modify it [13:06] Pig_Pen, i have been looking for it but all i can find is the package and not the actual proftpd*.SlackBuild [13:06] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-12.2/source/n/proftpd/ [13:06] ..nvm [13:07] its in there [13:07] thank you, i realize i was just searching through the packages and not the source [13:07] Cheers :) [13:07] :) [13:10] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:10] hi [13:10] i wish i was [13:12] Floops[w]1 (n=baihu@floopsie.broker.freenet6.net) joined ##slackware. [13:12] Floops[w] (n=baihu@floopsie.broker.freenet6.net) left irc: Operation timed out [13:12] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-140-236.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [13:14] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@actd61.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:14] _Floops (n=baihu@ipv6.floops.info) joined ##slackware. [13:15] beej71 (n=beej@zork.zork.net) left irc: "Client exiting" [13:18] drijen: that 'jesus camp' documentary looks really interesting [13:19] ...and horrific [13:20] antler: they pray to have a powerpoint presentation work in one scene [13:20] anyway gtg later [13:20] ...wtf in this case stands for : "Worse than fail" [13:24] wow.. [13:25] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.12) left irc: [13:25] me_ (n=me_@92.24.130.23) joined ##slackware. [13:26] I think i've watched something like that. They had little kids coming to the came and the leaders were telling them how horrible of a person they were and that if they didn't repent now that they would go to hell and that their families would disown them, etc etc. Anything horrible you could think of to destroy a childs confidence they did. So for like the first 30 minutes it's just kids, bawling their eyes out. [13:27] that's just nuts [13:27] Okay, i just confirmed with my wife. It was 'Jesus Camp'. [13:27] that is brainwashing [13:27] So, it's really screwed up. [13:28] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC02E70.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:28] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LACyLTsH4ac [13:30] Warlocks are enemy's of GOD! [13:30] hahaha [13:31] omfg are they speaking in strange tongues?! lol [13:32] It just kills me to see all these poor kids bawling like this over Harry Potter. [13:34] omg i can't killall firefox-bin [13:34] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:34] antler: Hhaa, can't stand to watch it anymore? [13:34] use top & the k key [13:36] agentc0re: heh not that. ff went wonkers when i tried to fullscreen the youtube vid. now i can't kill it [13:36] top is good, htop is even nicer [13:37] My favorite part is when they are in the bowling ally trying to recruit people. [13:37] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@actd61.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:38] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [13:38] a woman in a black dress (not bad looking) knocked on my door last week promoting for the Jehovah's witnesses, i looked at the stupid paper in her hand they give to people and before she could utter a word i said "not interested" and shut the door [13:39] you should've made blatant sexual advances. [13:40] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:40] or, which I think might've been funnier, immediately launched into a tirade about how you hate it when hookers are late [13:40] if i was alone in the house i would have, i would have invited her in, and every reply i would make to her would be subtilly suductive & sexual (i did think about that :D ) [13:41] with lines like "you'd better be good, for what this is costing me..." [13:41] lol! 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[13:48] Pig_Pen: In those situations you should just whip it out and say, "Satan is right here baby, come convert me" [13:48] lol [13:48] lol [13:48] Pants snake > Satan snake [13:49] ;) [13:49] Zxcvb (n=not_tell@173-23-208-198.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:51] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-174-153.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:51] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) joined ##slackware. [13:52] chathuraw (i=7c2b2cc0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5e679d51fb13e73b) joined ##slackware. [13:52] chathuraw (i=7c2b2cc0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5e679d51fb13e73b) left ##slackware. [13:53] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) left irc: "Saliendo" [13:53] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.149.215) joined ##slackware. [13:57] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-67-151.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:00] Hi andarius. How are you? [14:01] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@actd61.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:07] firebird619: i am well. how are you ? [14:07] I am great, Thank you. [14:08] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [14:08] Nick change: thumbs_ -> thumbs [14:09] Action: agentc0re is 27 today. [14:09] well happy b-day [14:09] Thanks andarius! :) Today is a day to drink! [14:10] hey happy birthday agentc0re ! :) [14:10] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [14:10] rworkman, hey, thanks for the xfce packs! The compoistor, or even the whole window manager runs slower than the previous one in 4.4. I'm on nvidia hardware, do you have any tips"? [14:11] byteframe: Try creating a new user and see if you have the same problem. [14:11] agentc0re, I erased everything in my home, but Ill try a full new user. [14:11] Since i've gone to 4.6, i've noticed some weird things with my current user but not if i create a new user. [14:12] byteframe: Oh. [14:12] Happy Birthday agentc0re. [14:12] Thanks guys! :) [14:14] Nick change: _Floops -> Floops [14:14] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [14:15] i was up until 4am and it still won't associate [14:16] xfce has config files spread out in a couple of dirs i know of, ~/.config & ~/.local (possibly others) [14:17] umm, what wont associate? [14:17] mostly in ~/.config [14:17] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-174-153.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [14:17] wpa_supplicant will not associate to a hostapd AP using EAP-TLS [14:17] me__ (n=me_@92.24.16.32) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:17] it simply does not work [14:19] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [14:21] DeiBellum (n=rwaters@dhcp132159.salley.fsu.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [14:22] Dr4kk4r (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-97-243.ip86.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [14:24] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A743BB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:25] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:26] Sergio (n=Sergio@unaffiliated/sergio) joined ##slackware. [14:29] Zordrak (n=jaz@zordrak.tpa.me.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:29] Does anyone have lirc working in -current? Want to confirm if it's me, lirc or -current that's the problem [14:30] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.78.43.239) joined ##slackware. [14:31] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [14:32] the problem could be the sum of the external forces divided by internal force (you) to the power of 2 [14:32] v@services.dal.net identify hammurabi [14:32] YAY [14:32] all ur base are belongs to us [14:34] NyteOwl: lolerskatez [14:34] heh [14:34] s'ok - I just changed it [14:34] :) [14:35] stupid question. how would i switch irssi to a term in X from tty1? [14:35] without exiting irssi [14:35] Cann0n: screen !? [14:35] i dont use screen. lol [14:36] Cann0n: but then you would have to use it :D [14:36] to swap it to a term in X? [14:36] yeah [14:36] whats the command to throw things in the bg? [14:36] i forgot :( [14:37] CTRL - Z [14:37] and then & [14:38] sigh [14:38] well shit... [14:38] no.. then type bg [14:38] or that [14:38] and to go again to foreground type fg [14:40] Matt_____ (n=matt@cpc1-warr1-0-0-cust642.bagu.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:40] what's a second generation iPod nano worth? (brand new unopened) [14:40] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:40] disadvantage to this is that if you exit the terminal the bg job exit too so better use screen [14:40] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. 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[14:47] umm [14:47] Action: theblackbox refines his model of reality [14:47] lol [14:48] chopp: i'm going to throw all of this shit out into the street [14:48] and i thought the last meal of the day was supper [14:48] country folk around here call lunch dinner and the later meal supper [14:48] i mean, shit, i just ate lunch not even an hour ago and the family is like, you ready to go eat dinner? [14:48] twolf: i mean the sate one. [14:49] i didnt get out of school until 3:30 [14:49] nullboy: what you throwing away now? [14:49] chopp: at this point i have probably put in about 8 total hours on just this EAP-TLS and i still can't get it after exhausting most of the internet resources [14:49] you go to school? :P [14:49] Action: NyteOwl switches to scavenger/pack rat nmode [14:50] Action: slackytude had BBQ today [14:51] just like yesterday [14:51] Action: NyteOwl has a turkey roasting in the oven [14:51] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:52] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [14:54] Hi slackytude. How are you today? [14:54] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:54] BBQ sound good [14:54] Greetings firebird619, Im enjoying me long weendend ^-^ [14:54] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:54] firebird619, what are you up to? [14:55] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [14:55] Not to much. Looks like the only way to remove duplicates in opera is to export to thunderbird and then back to opera. [14:56] duplicate what? [14:56] oh e-mails [14:56] eh, kinda roundabout [14:56] speaking of opera, I just noticed today they changed the display of rss feeds [14:56] Yeah, I think I'd rather live with the duplicates and remove as I see them. Deleting them all at once would be a long, daunting, task. [14:57] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:57] firebird619, anyway, glad you solved it. they need to brush up on their email stuff, altho I use it as my main email client now. could use a calendar too [14:58] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) joined ##slackware. [14:58] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166055043.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:58] slackytude: Yeah, they changed the display and added the choice of picking what you want to manage feeds with. [14:58] Yeah, I've been reading in the past few months that some big changes are coming to the e-mail portion of opera. [14:58] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [14:59] Possibly even with the Opera 10 release. [14:59] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:00] well, I hope 10 comes out soon [15:01] slackytude: Yeah, me too. It's really stable. 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[15:26] all the stuff from introversion is good [15:26] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:26] http://www.introversion.co.uk/ [15:27] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@actd61.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:27] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-122-43-74.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [15:27] some even have slackbuilds ^-^ [15:27] Anyone know how to get xxgdb working without a bad hack? Says all ptys in use when I try to run it. I've seen forum tips that involve messing with some stuff I'd rather leave alone. [15:27] like defcon [15:27] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "pebkac, id-10-t clicked the X ^_^" [15:27] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:28] flightgear is nice... but keybndings seem to lack a gui [15:28] in fact, i couldnt even find docs ond the keys [15:29] chromium is actually pretty good :D [15:29] noizze (n=noise@p549CF9CD.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Verlassend" [15:30] mr_cakes (n=quassel@c-24-7-194-9.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:33] antler do you mean chromium-bsu or chromium from google? [15:34] bsu [15:34] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@actd61.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:34] Cann0n: CircusLinux is a classic (great game for kids) [15:35] lol [15:35] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-74-109-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [15:35] not sure if CircusLinux will even build on a modern Linux system, it is old and probably abandoned [15:37] ftp://ftp.tuxpaint.org/unix/x/circus-linux/src/circuslinux-1.0.3.tar.gz here is it if you want to try it [15:37] ttyX (i=1000@115.108.13.72) joined ##slackware. [15:38] ttyX (i=1000@115.108.13.72) left ##slackware. [15:38] onsidering it just needs libsdl sdl_image and SDL-mixer is should build [15:40] hmm, maybe it will build [15:41] it has a homer simpson "WooHoo" in it when you score [15:42] - An American ship captain was freed unharmed Sunday in a swift firefight that killed three of the four Somali pirates [15:42] yeah, awesome stuff:) [15:43] a brave man, he jumped out of the life raft [15:43] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@actd61.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:43] umm yeah his second time [15:43] yes [15:44] pankracy (n=pankracy@fatcat.ftj.agh.edu.pl) left irc: "BitchX: more nutritious than a six-pack." [15:45] H4ck3r (n=chatzill@pool-173-57-156-2.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:45] Hi, what is the consequence of allowing creating file owned by root/root? [15:46] a consequence is that only root can modify it [15:46] do we have any security issue? [15:48] others users can't access, modify and maybe read the file [15:49] skillet (n=brad@ip70-174-66-7.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:49] files belonging to root don't cause security issues, but setuid root executables might [15:50] Dr4kk4r (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-97-243.ip86.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "Leaving" [15:50] yeah [15:50] i think so [15:51] so what is the problem of running mysql under root [15:51] antler i love chromium-bsu [15:51] mysql can create file owned by root/root with "SELECT into OUTFILE" [15:51] you mean, running the server process as root, or logging in as the root user? [15:51] running the mysqld as root [15:52] root owned files *can* be a security issue. Just becasue they are owned by root isn't an automatic cartouche of purity [15:52] Nick change: fiyawerx__ -> fiyawerx [15:52] well, if there turns out to be any security flaw (or even just a bug that causes weird data corruption), it'll be able to do a lot more damage than if it were running as the mysql user [15:53] NyteOwl: yeah... I meant, root-owned (non-setuid) files are no more of a security risk than non-root-owned files [15:53] H4ck3r: if the server process can be compromised it is possible to escalate priviledges [15:53] NyteOwl: how can it be a security problem? Could you please talk more [15:53] other than SUID [15:53] just think if someone injected mysql with evil data that wanted to do a rm -r ./* or some other evil thing [15:53] hersonls (n=hersonls@189.12.255.60) joined ##slackware. [15:54] that's why most mysql and apache processes on webservers run as nobody [15:54] Pig_Pen [15:54] mysqld cant run system command, right? [15:54] except create a new UDF function [15:54] code with bugs in it, can do *anything* [15:55] you dont want server & database software to have root privleges [15:55] mysql and apache processess even using nobody can do some major damage really [15:55] nille: yeah, me too :) [15:56] hmm, what if server & database software was installed & configured with just a user account privleges [15:56] kitche: yes, it just helps reduce the likelihood [15:56] in its own /home/$USER directory [15:56] alkasteve (n=kvirc@cpc1-linc10-0-0-cust265.nott.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [15:56] Pig_Pen: apache can't listen on ports <=1024 without starting with root privs [15:56] Pig_Pen, isnt that the way your supposed to be [15:56] Urchlay: umm apache drops it's priviledges most of the time [15:57] Pig_Pen: it can be done a lot of sites go that route actually for webhosts [15:57] i am just speculating, i dont run any server software, just a slackware as a desktop user guy [15:57] Pig_Pen: Could you please talk more about how to run "rm -rf *" on mysqld ? [15:57] kitche: right. I said "starting with"... he's talking about installing & running it as a regular user [15:57] Pig_Pen: afaik, there's no way to run system command with mysqld [15:57] afaik me too [15:57] Pig_Pen: except importing a new UDF function [15:57] Urchlay: which can still be done depends on the system [15:58] kitche: yah. Not on a normal Slackware Linux box though. [15:58] hmm I need to go grab the xfce buildscript so I can see the build order of xfce [15:59] Slackware and Ubuntu both run Apache as "nobody". [15:59] cacao74 (n=cacao74@host-84-220-163-188.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [15:59] Debian probably does too by extension. [15:59] as does CentOS and I beleive RHEL [16:00] RHEL and centos are gonna act the same way [16:00] for the msot part, yes [16:00] ahmed-tux (n=rhapsody@adsl196-87-126-206-196.adsl196-4.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [16:02] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC036BC.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:06] cacao74 (n=cacao74@host-84-220-163-188.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) left ##slackware. [16:07] filiberto (n=filibert@189.174.139.177) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [16:08] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:09] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. 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[16:18] hello [16:19] hi [16:21] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.32) left irc: [16:23] mac if i understand you correctly then you can add whatever user you want to samba look at smbpasswd [16:23] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166055043.dsl.hol.gr) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:24] mr_cakes (n=quassel@c-24-7-194-9.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:24] nille: yeah but after try to add new user to samba got: [16:24] mac-: try to add user as youwant without login shell and after smbpasswd name-of-user [16:24] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [16:24] Failed to modify password entry for user ewa [16:25] smbpasswd -a ewa -s [16:25] :/ [16:25] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.78.43.239) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:27] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: [16:27] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:29] Tirili (n=opera@dslb-088-070-042-140.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:30] spook (n=spook@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [16:30] hackedhead_ (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. 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[16:51] <_RadioHead> kosova/albania mac- [16:52] evening RadioHead......all the way from northern Canada:) [16:52] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A743BB.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:52] <_RadioHead> thx hitest :) greetings [16:52] :) [16:53] yw, _RadioHead [16:53] skillet (n=brad@ip70-174-66-7.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:53] skillet (n=brad@ip70-174-66-7.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:54] Nick change: hackedhead_ -> hackedhead [16:58] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.112.0.128.plusnet.ptn-ag1.dyn.plus.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:00] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [17:00] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-51-37.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:03] koolniczka (n=nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) joined ##slackware. [17:04] I want to boot a windows 2000 on hdb1 via dualboot with lilo, but when I choose that option to boot, an error message appears on the black screen: "invalid system (...)". [17:04] I tried to use the FIXBOOT command from the windows2000 cd, but it didn't help. [17:04] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [17:05] Now someone has told be, that windows alsways has to be on the first connector of an ide cable. [17:05] He said, there is an option in lilo to fake this. [17:05] Do you know more about it? [17:06] Tirili http://pastebin.com/d7b423d8d add those three lines to lilo.conf [17:06] Hey, that was fast! :) [17:06] Hey rsync gurus. I'm copying music to my media player and i want to exclude most of a directory tree. For example say i want to exclude everything in 'path/to/' except for 'path/to/file4'. How does one do this? Do you have to setup these protect filters? or is there a hierarchy-order of exclude/includes i can do? [17:07] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.78.71.111) joined ##slackware. [17:07] hey what is that command that you pass a command through that tells you which libraries it's looking for and the paths it's searching? [17:08] ld somethingsomething? [17:08] hrm [17:09] im looking for that command it's like "$command $path_to_binary" and the result is something like "/usr/lib/something-something.so" [17:09] dartmouth, ldd [17:10] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-166-220.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:11] skillet: thx [17:11] <_RadioHead> hiptobecubic- --include=? [17:11] http://pastebin.com/m72cab74a <-- ok, so see line 13? (libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 => not found)? how can I check where it is looking? [17:11] superGear (n=superGea@8.7.69.30) left irc: [17:12] _RadioHead, but i'm using an exclude that would normally exclude this file i want. I just want to specify that this particular file should not be excluded like the rest of them. [17:12] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [17:12] <_RadioHead> hiptobecubic- yes i understand that so u can use --include=/path/to/file4 as your example... [17:12] <_RadioHead> hiptobecubic- read man rsync [17:13] <_RadioHead> hiptobecubic- -include=PATTERN don't exclude files matching PATTERN [17:13] <_RadioHead> that is on rsync man page [17:13] _RadioHead, but it /is/ excluding that file. [17:16] hmm, cool, navy got the captain out alive [17:16] Pig_Pen: What is the right place here http://pastebin.com/m145775f3 to paste your three lines? [17:16] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@actd61.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:17] put it in the bottom of /etc/lilo.conf and then run /sbin/lilo [17:17] Ah. [17:18] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@actd61.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:18] looks like you did it correctly, close enough anyway [17:19] you can change the label to say whatever you want [17:19] Sadly I have not done this. It was drakboot. And it did NOT work. :( [17:20] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:22] What do those lines with "map-drive=0x80" mean? Perhaps I have to remove them? [17:25] not sure, i dont use mandrake, you may have better luck in a mandrake irc channe [17:26] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.78.71.111) left irc: Connection timed out [17:27] Tirili it's used to tell bios that this is your first drive [17:28] http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LILO-6.html [17:28] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.78.67.74) joined ##slackware. [17:29] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.146.209) left irc: "Leaving." [17:29] hm. [17:30] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:30] The problem is still "invalid system" when I try to boot it. [17:33] did you rerun lilo -v when you made your changes to /etc/lilo.conf ? [17:33] Yes. [17:34] Do you think, it could help, if I try FIXBOOT and FIXBMR from the windows 2000 cd ? [17:34] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:34] What are you trying to do? Just get it to boot in the first place? Did you make changes? are you dual booting? [17:34] hell no [17:35] I want to have a choice between booting mandriva from hda or win2k from hdb1, when I turn on the computer. [17:35] wait a second here. Are you running Mandriva? [17:35] looks like it [17:35] Yes.. [17:36] Action: agentc0re looks at what channel he's in [17:36] Yup, ##slackware [17:36] hehe [17:36] I have to. It's an old 700 MHz pc. [17:36] how does the pc spec affect the distro one must run on it? [17:36] But lilo is lilo, isn't it? I thought, perhaps you guys can help me, too. [17:37] Good question! All other distros have errors while installing it. [17:37] why cant mandriva fellows help you in the first place ? [17:37] Well i'm not sure you're trying to boot your windows HD correctly. [17:37] No answers in that channel. :( [17:37] Let me look at my laptop and i'll tell you how i do it. [17:38] But on one condition. [17:38] Tirili, just windows that wont boot ? [17:38] yes [17:38] mandriva works. [17:38] get rid of mandriva and install slack 11 or something. [17:38] it still is receiving updates. [17:39] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:39] |lestat| (n=pescotap@dl-lns3-tic-C8B120F6.dynamic.dialterra.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:39] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:39] |lestat| (n=pescotap@dl-lns3-tic-C8B120F6.dynamic.dialterra.com.br) left ##slackware. [17:40] I thought, mandrake would be fine, since my parents could use that package update system to install security fixes automatically without knowing much about computers. It would be too difficult with slackware. [17:40] Slackware 12.2 runs on my old Plll 667 IBM.......ditch Mandriva.....that blows [17:41] spiki (n=spiki@85.222.135.2) joined ##slackware. [17:41] The problem is, that the newer version of mandriva with kde 4 are probably too much for that old pc. [17:41] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-74-109-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [17:41] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:41] Tirili: see there ya go, you can even probably use 12.2. [17:41] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:42] harls (n=harls@c-98-204-57-154.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:42] i used slackware with a 800 / 512 ram and it worked [17:42] so use slackware 12.2 and xfce, that unit would run better with slack than mandriva [17:42] ok, but I want setup a computer for my parents. [17:42] my Plll 667 has 256 MB RAM, it works [17:42] Tirili, so ? [17:42] got -current w/ kde4 on a 850 mhz 512 ram [17:42] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [17:43] They don't know too much about computers. How shall they be able to install updates? [17:43] Tirili: http://pastebin.com/d22c65d7d [17:43] Tirili, u do that for them [17:43] set it up with KDE 3.5 on slackware 12.2, they'll think they're using winders [17:43] thank you [17:43] Tirili: Not much "updates" in slackware besides security updates. [17:43] since I'm gonna make a friend run slackware, I thought a bit about that problem : ssh to the computer and install updates remotely :) [17:43] and those are easy. slackpkg ftw. [17:43] Tirili, use slackpkg for security updates [17:44] I cannot always be here and help them. :/ [17:44] bbl [17:44] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Bye, Slackers:)" [17:44] you could even log into their box remotely to do that [17:44] Tirili: Well you don't always have to use the latest and greatest. If it works, don't break it. [17:44] just sign up for the security mailing list and keep an eye on it [17:45] or put a cronjob for slackpkg every hour [17:45] kidding :D [17:45] I don't know automation for slackpkg but a cronjob could even do that [17:45] DeeeeP ;p [17:45] i guess that once a week will be ok :) [17:45] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:45] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: "Leaving" [17:45] slkpkg runs in non-interactive mode ? [17:46] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:46] Camarade_Tux_: could build a script to rsync and then upgradepkg --install-new on whatever mirror you choose. [17:46] i don't think the --install-new would be necessary though. [17:46] hm, who was in here talking about circuslinux? [17:47] giuppy (n=giuppy@host68-171-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:47] giuppy (n=giuppy@host68-171-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [17:47] oddly enough I had started packaging that up last week... [17:47] Tirili what does you lilo.conf look like [17:48] http://pastebin.com/m145775f3 [17:48] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:48] me! i am a big CircusLinux fanboy, nothing like bouncing a clown up in the air to pop balloons [17:48] Tirili: did you update it with what i pastebin'd? [17:48] :D [17:48] Pig_Pen: well I finished up my slackbuild for it, want to give it a whirl? [17:48] i already built it [17:48] cool [17:49] want a man page for it? [17:49] it is a cool little game [17:49] naw, i been playing it for years [17:49] think I last played it in 2001 or something [17:50] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [17:50] tho I last played Circus Atari on a 2600 like last year [17:50] agentc0re: Where are the differences between yours and mine? [17:50] I dunno, i just told you that i'd paste what i have and what works for me. [17:50] I must adapt your sda to sdb and sda to sdb1. [17:50] Keep in mind my Windows partitions is on the same HD as my linux. [17:50] Ok, then I didn't update anythink. :( [17:50] g [17:50] Tirili what windows are you trying to boot? [17:50] windows also has to be before linux. [17:51] win2k [17:51] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-166-220.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [17:51] ooh i mean what label [17:51] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [17:52] "Windows_2000_auf_alter_Festplat" [17:52] ok [17:52] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426051.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:52] Tirili: The label, WINDOWS doesn't work? [17:53] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:53] gm152_ (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:53] i'm no lilo guru but i would try mapping in diffrent order like http://nille.pastebin.com/d3ff8c38c then run 'lilo -v' and hope for the best [17:54] No, forget about that. ;) It a broken windows. So, yes, it tries to boot at least, but I doesn't start up anymore. And it would be cool to have windows on that second harddisk. [17:54] H4ck3r (n=chatzill@pool-173-57-156-2.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: No route to host [17:55] *I = it [17:55] But, ok, if I got "windows" to work, it would be fine, too. Because lilo works with it. [17:56] Tirili: so then you didn't try what i said. you need to boot windows that way. [17:56] nille: I'll try it. [17:56] i would try remove table also like http://nille.pastebin.com/d27a2272e [17:56] try both with and without table [17:58] berkough (n=berkough@ip70-180-206-62.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:58] alkasteve (n=kvirc@cpc1-linc10-0-0-cust265.nott.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:59] Trybexus (i=eXile_@66.18.207.175) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:00] filiberto (n=filibert@189.174.139.177) joined ##slackware. [18:00] Tirili: you can also try to remove the drive-map and just use, boot-as = 0x80 [18:00] Tirili: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/lilo-wont-boot-windows-142779/ [18:00] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:00] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:01] eXile_ (n=nuts@66.18.207.175) joined ##slackware. [18:02] Tirili: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/getting-lilo-on-hdb-to-boot-win2k-on-hda1-654345/?highlight=boot-as [18:02] Tirili: You should search slackware on LQ for this. Lots of questions about it with lots of success afterwards. [18:03] Thank you, I must try the one after another. [18:06] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.78.67.74) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:07] giuppy (n=giuppy@host68-171-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:09] no, just configure all the different ones and try it, doesn't work reboot try the next. [18:10] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: "Leaving" [18:10] i guess Tirili went for the good old "If you want to know how Linux works, ask a Slackware user." "If you have a question about Linux, ask a Slackware user." "Any problems with any distro Just ask a slackware user." "If nobody else has a solution, ask a Slackware user" [18:10] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "Leaving." [18:11] yes do as agentc0re says only use diffrent labels for them [18:14] one_2_one (n=aaa@bl8-110-30.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:14] yo DeeeeP [18:15] hi one_2_one :) [18:15] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:16] nille: Yup. Thats fine, so long they convert over. :) [18:17] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:18] nille: im a slackware user of 9 years and im a dumbass [18:18] well i found thoose on google :p [18:18] Dear Slackware users: how many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsieroll tootsiepop? [18:18] but the first used to be on distrowatch [18:19] Pig_Pen: depends on the sodium levels in your system. [18:19] Pig_Pen to answer that we need your PH value [18:20] i would guess you are correct on the theory of how corrosive the subject's saliva is [18:20] :) [18:21] i hate tootsie pops [18:21] i like blow pops [18:21] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:21] conclution it's true [18:22] so, wendys burgers is never froozen... so how do they transport the meat? [18:22] alive? [18:22] strap it to the hood [18:22] when you go into a wendy's, do you ever hear the sound of chainsaws and frantic mooing? [18:23] steam from the engine cooks it en route [18:23] mmm, steamed beef with just a hint of antifreeze for that tangy flavoring [18:23] Urchlay: once... but i was high. [18:23] :) [18:23] Cann0n: If you really want the answer to that, then you'd probably never eat there again. [18:23] i wanna know why KFC is KFC... since Col Sanders was from Indianna.... [18:23] did they freeze the fingers in the chilli tho ? [18:24] agentc0re: i dont eat that shit. lol [18:24] transported already cooked, always kept at room temperature. lol [18:24] Cann0n: me either. [18:24] maybe they kill the cows by replacing their blood with antifreeze, then put them in a freezer (where they don't actually freeze) [18:24] one_2_one (n=aaa@bl8-110-30.dsl.telepac.pt) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:24] im watching the History of Fast Foods... and all the hosts are fat... [18:24] lol Urchlay [18:24] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:25] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [18:25] that, or instead of cattle, the meat is made from some kind of horned demon from hell... oh, wait, that was a Buffy episode. [18:25] Daves Daughter (logo of wendy's) was ugly as fuck [18:26] did she grow up eating the burgers? that might explain it... [18:26] lol [18:26] she had warts on his face huh ? [18:26] yeah [18:26] her* [18:26] and she was much fatter... [18:26] lol [18:26] lol [18:27] eXile_ (n=nuts@66.18.207.175) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:28] i hate fast food... [18:28] wendy's says "it's not fast food, its wendy's" [18:28] is that because it isn't fast, or isn't food, or both? [18:29] lol [18:29] yeah [18:29] it's made by mexicans, those guys are fast. they jump the border and outrun the border patrol [18:29] and now the big rage is undoing years of high fat and carb meals... fuckin sazy americans [18:29] lol [18:29] healthy foods are more exspensive... why? [18:30] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-9.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:30] Floops (n=baihu@ipv6.floops.info) left irc: Connection reset by peer [18:32] Daves entire family was fat lol [18:32] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [18:33] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:34] ahmed-tux (n=rhapsody@adsl196-87-126-206-196.adsl196-4.iam.net.ma) left ##slackware. [18:34] one day, i will build a time machine and stop Dave Thomas's dad from meeting his mom... and i'll stop by Silicon Valley and pay a visit to Willy Gates [18:34] Catalyst 9.3 is the last release that supports my X850. [18:34] As if right on cue, 2.6.29 BREAKS 9.3 and prevents it from building correctly. [18:35] Cann0n: when you get back to the present, you might find Steve Jobs ruling the universe... [18:36] well, giving the orders anyway. Woz will be doing all the actual work. [18:36] ccfreak2k try google for a patch. there's often kernel patches for catalyst drivers [18:37] lol, i'll stop by Texas and get Bush jr hooked on crack [18:37] that would have solved some shi [18:37] you mean, earlier than he already did? :P [18:37] LOL [18:37] lol [18:37] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.56.156.252) left irc: "leaving" [18:38] wow... Dave Thomas died of liver cancer... eating Wendeys 4 times a day for 30 years [18:38] being hooked on dope is a requirement for the presidency now :) [18:38] oh yeah. look at obama... i KNOW he smoked his fair share of crip [18:38] he was a coke sniffer [18:39] yeah, but all black people smoke weed [18:40] well I can't prove you wrong on that, i'm not an expert I guess [18:40] lol [18:41] i saw our tax moneies at hard work...black toddlers cursing at me and smoking cigs [18:41] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.133.138) left irc: "Leaving" [18:41] an entire neighborhood of adults not working [18:41] nille, so much for ABI stability. [18:41] giuppy (n=giuppy@host134-164-dynamic.26-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [18:42] did my taxes today, gubberment wants like 1800 bucks [18:43] well my x1400 got the same problem so i guess i will stay awhile on 12.2 [18:43] Soul_keeper: i didnt do mine. i havent worked in 2 years. Thanks Sam! [18:43] having them withhold 15% wasn't enoug [18:43] ya'll need to learn how to use ira's [18:44] this lady posted a $9/hr job as a receptionist and with in the first day, she had 900 people apply [18:44] I did that drijen :) [18:44] most of them were highly over qaullified [18:44] only get a 100 dollar credit for that or something [18:44] Action: drijen hasn't paid more than a $1 in taxes in the last 5 years [18:44] Soul_keeper you only pay 15% tax? [18:44] nille, no, much higher. but the company had the papers wrong so only withheld that much [18:45] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:45] drijen : IRAs don't magically save you from paying taxes [18:45] until im 50 it does [18:45] i pay 32% [18:45] or until i cross the 60K line [18:45] I pay 10% [18:45] invested half of every penny I made last year, and lost 80% of that in the stock market .... ohh well [18:45] drijen: good. [18:45] only 10% in norway? [18:46] Soul_keeper: oh man... [18:46] nille: I dont make any money yet =) [18:46] drijen : bs. you still pay federal taxes, you just don't owe at the end of the year [18:46] ok [18:46] i finally got a job... i wont pay taxes. 8 hours a week $7/hr [18:46] you keep thinking that, i'll happily not pay [18:46] well when i made more money my tax went up to 45% [18:46] drijen : until i see your w-4 and your tax return form, i won't believe you [18:46] sweden the land of taxes [18:46] smokes are 6 bucks a pack [18:47] tobacco went up 25% here, just bought some today [18:47] smokes went up last week here too [18:47] tije (n=tije@189.175.113.57) joined ##slackware. [18:48] $12.60/pack [18:48] welcome to new federal taxes on smokes [18:48] some "tax for the kids" [18:48] Soul_keeper: where are you? [18:48] california [18:48] i think its like.. 80% taxes when you buy smokes here [18:48] lol [18:48] it's nation wide, federal taxes on a single pack went from 39 cents to $1.01 [18:48] i_is_cat: where? [18:48] smokes are like 150-200 a pack here [18:48] canada [18:48] nok [18:49] altho you can go to the reserves and get smokes for about half as much or cheaper if you get native brands like DK's or Stones or Extremes etc. [18:49] so, we pay taxes out of our pay check. then when we buy food.... [18:49] as far as i know groceries arent taxed.. [18:50] fast food and such is tho.. [18:50] 28$ [18:50] they increased sales tax here by 1 cent claiming "it's only a penny" yet it's 13% [18:50] everything is taked here [18:50] i_is_cat: how do the native brands taste? [18:50] water prices going up 33% also [18:50] lns how many kronor for a pack och smoke (20) [18:51] nille: 150-200 nok [18:51] they should legalize weed to help us thru this recession [18:51] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [18:51] for one pack [18:51] mmm weed does a lot more than bring money [18:51] if the govt sold weed, theyd make more money by far [18:51] chopp: this is bullsh!t [18:51] taxes here are only 5% they've gone down 2% in the last couple of years.. [18:51] weed can improve farmland too [18:51] lower taxes, sale weed. [18:51] chopp: AP mode isn't working in the first place for me. that's the problem [18:51] nille: well I dont know the price for 10packs thats for roll your own cig [18:51] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-74-109-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [18:52] the california weed grower's association offered the government billions to legalize it recently, they said no [18:52] Soul_keeper: but Arnold smoked it [18:52] antler, depends what you get [18:52] you bet [18:52] videa proof... [18:52] if you buy them in a bag you might as well just quit [18:52] Cann0n: arnie will smoke anything [18:52] lol [18:52] :) [18:52] if you get a pack then they're pretty much like real brands [18:53] one day, i will be president. [18:53] i_is_cat: and it's roughly half the price? [18:53] the thing i like is that if you dont know what DK's taste like you can ask to try one and they'll crack a pack and let you test it right in the store [18:53] well if you're getting the native brands, its about $25 a carton [18:53] lol [18:53] oh nice [18:53] but if you get regular brands on the reserve its around $50/carton [18:53] Cann0n: is your middle name hussein ? [18:54] don't know how good they are, but 25 bucks sounds good [18:54] which is still ike $30-$40 cheaper than in the city [18:54] http://www.spiegl.org/humor/wonker.swf look at this in a flash capable web browser for a minute then look away, (epileptics beware! might possibly cause a seizure) [18:54] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [18:54] here's a novel idea: quit smoking [18:54] i will quit when i feel like quitting [18:54] right now i enjoy smoking [18:54] it's not novel; it's difficult :P [18:54] oops, did not mean to double post [18:54] ananke: I'll do it one better by never starting :) [18:54] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "schleeeep time" [18:54] lns40 : even better [18:54] lns40: no, its danger. [18:54] and until that joy stops, i'll still be sparking up [18:55] my net speed is atrocious .. since it died a couple of days ago the speed in general is pure crap :S [18:55] and i have to extend big thanks to you then: your tax money pays for stuff [18:55] whew, cigarettes are too damn expensive, glad i quit long ago [18:56] heh, before taxes my cigs were $8/pack [18:56] after, they are $8/pack [18:56] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:56] i wanna go back to the $5/pack days.... [18:56] <_RadioHead> time for sleep :) tomorrow ppl [18:56] _RadioHead (n=User@82.114.75.248) left irc: "Leaving" [18:56] that was reasonable [18:56] fast food... shit is making me sick. food network sucks [18:56] 2 for $5 would work for me [18:56] who has the remote? not me... [18:57] cigarettes are a nasty & stinky habit, and the damn things dont even give you a buzz [18:57] i like the food network.. usually.......... [18:57] stinky but hardly nasty\ [18:57] i_is_cat: you would like s.korea. about 2.5usd for a pack of marlboros [18:57] Pig_Pen: you smokin the wrong ciggs if you don't get a buzz :( [18:57] all this talk about smokes is making me want a smoke [18:57] tell me its not nasty the next time you cough of brown gooey flem [18:57] antler, i wouldnt like south korea because its south korea :P lol [18:57] Pig_Pen: you do that? [18:58] you're a freak [18:58] just legalize weed, the smokers need to get what they pay for ! jk! :) [18:58] i_is_cat: o.O [18:58] nah i saw some show about it, seems fairly ok down there and lns40 has the right idea [18:58] Pig_Pen: try some of these: http://www.natsherman.com/product.cfm?CFID=1494118&CFTOKEN=4fca8f8308ae9784-9C8C8795-19B9-F18B-22FA99755603E3F2&productid=1123 [18:58] 30,000+ mcdonalds [18:58] world wide [18:58] i dont smoke tobacco [18:59] no wonder you cough up crap, what do you smoke [18:59] if 80% of what they charge on a pack of smokes here is pure taxes, a pack of joints could be 3 times as expensive as cigarettes so they make 3 times the taxes [18:59] but nooooooooooooo [18:59] haha [18:59] 60 bucks for 5 packages of smokes! jeeze i am in the wrong business, i need to become a tobacco farmer [18:59] Pig_Pen: thems quality smokes [18:59] i think at this point the US and canada are basically not willing to admit how much money they lost on the war on marijuana [18:59] Pig_Pen : they don't make squat [18:59] better then most cigars imho [19:00] if weed gets legalized i would grow my own [19:00] they just shuffle the issue aside like its peanuts to them [19:00] but when the majority of the population is FOR legalization, whether they partake or not, the government needs to listen to its people [19:00] i know, i was just being sarcastic (sortof) most that money goes to taxes and some middlemen retails get a little [19:00] skillet (n=brad@ip70-174-66-7.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:01] Floops (n=baihu@ipv6.floops.info) joined ##slackware. [19:01] what? i thought the gov WAS the people. :P [19:01] you must work for them :P [19:01] the gov just wants you to think that antler [19:01] antlers on the payroll everyone watch what you say! :O lol [19:02] hehe [19:02] Trybexus (i=eXile_@66.18.207.175) joined ##slackware. [19:03] mmmmm 34gb of OZ just what i need [19:03] sidmario_ (n=sidmario@189-18-234-72.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:03] mxb428 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:04] Nick change: sidmario_ -> Guest92995 [19:04] i need 34g of high grade shit [19:05] get some Trainwreck or some hindu kush [19:05] ssssssssssssshh [19:05] i mant some skunky sensimilla [19:06] Politics (n=Internet@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [19:06] yeah, cannibus indica is better than cannibus sativa [19:06] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:07] Apparently one of the CPUs my kernel supports is "UMC UMC UMC UMC". [19:07] Pig_Pen: agreed. i hate being lazy [19:07] weed is opensource, its not like some evil dope cooked up in some laboratory by some ballmer looking mad scientist [19:08] yeah. if they legalized weed, i will be the happiest man a live [19:08] get a job [19:09] you can only smoke weed if you dont have a job? [19:09] i would sleep better at night, i enjoy a toke on occasion but it does not solve all my problems :D [19:09] Where does Xorg load the dri module(s)? [19:10] it does mine. working 8 hours a week, got all the land possible to grow, living with parents again... [19:10] anyone ever face pant toddlers sober? i didnt think so! [19:10] in the module section, dri is sort of like glx, you can use one or the other (not both) [19:10] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-122-43-74.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [19:10] ccfreak2k: /lib/X11 maybe? [19:11] Maybe! [19:11] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-9.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [19:11] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host129-198-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "ciao!" [19:11] if you put both dri & glx in the module section, i bet it would load whatever one your video card driver is compatible with and ignore the other [19:11] i dunno lol [19:11] gbonvehim (i=1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [19:12] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "Leaving." [19:12] Pig_Pen, sure. The problem is, Xorg fails to load dri (claims "module does not exist"). [19:13] hmmm. ive never had issues with xorg so i dunno dude [19:13] a mystery to solve [19:13] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:13] Go get the dog and the hippie. [19:13] The game is afoot. [19:13] ccfreak2: What's the video card? Are the X.org and kernel modules present? [19:14] Action: Cann0n calls Bonez and Willy [19:14] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:14] tije, Radeon X800 series, all kernel and Xorg modules should be present. [19:14] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:14] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:14] I used AMD's Slackware packages previously, but since those broke with the kernel update, I removed them and reinstalled mesa (to get clean libGL.so back). [19:15] sidmario (n=sidmario@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:15] ccfreak2k: which GL apps do you use? [19:15] Err, glxgears. [19:15] KDE4's compositing as well. [19:15] (this is -current btw) [19:16] H4ck3r (n=chatzill@pool-173-57-156-2.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:17] I'm using an old Radeon 9600 with fglrx. Are you using the radeon or radeonhd xorg modules? [19:18] radeon because I don't have Radeon HD hardware of course. [19:18] i dont play any 3D PC games, i want glx loaded so the video (movies & animations) plays smoothly [19:18] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:18] I didn't know media players used glx [19:19] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:19] Pig_Pen, I use it primarily with KDE4 compositing, which helps speed up the interface a bit. [19:19] ccfreak2k what does dmesg say? [19:19] what is compositing? [19:19] pi31415: search youtube for beryl [19:20] or cube [19:20] pi31415, graphics effects accelerated by dri (or glx or whatever). [19:20] mapping 2d windows to "3d" surfaces? [19:20] nille, there's no display-related messages in dmesg. [19:21] not anything starange at all with fglrx? [19:21] I think nille means to check if the radeon and dri module in the kernel are properly loaded. [19:21] Nothing about fglrx either. [19:22] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.118) left irc: "Leaving." [19:22] Well lemme double-check that first. [19:22] tije, that would mean I would use lsmod. :) [19:27] redtricycle1 (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-160-131.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:27] mxb428 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:28] yht (n=yht@114.121.40.75) left irc: "I must go.." [19:28] I think I figured it out. [19:29] drijen: watched a few clips from that documentary. no one has called child services? [19:30] Nick change: _RaNdY -> RaNdY [19:30] that jesus camp? antler? [19:30] Nevermind, didn't work. [19:30] yeah, youtube's got a few clips [19:31] Pig_Pen: ^^ [19:31] _Cloud_ (n=cloud@adsl-233-134-158.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:31] this is abuse imo [19:32] oh heck yeah, that is child abuse/brainwashing, seems the government likes those kinds of christians since they make such docile tax payers [19:32] i believe [19:33] pig_pen: my load is too heavy to watch youtube, what kind of child abuse is it? [19:34] christian propaganda [19:34] how does that count as child abuse? [19:35] i think all religion is brainwashing, they have that "belive in this god or burn in hell forever" [19:36] I'd rather people had the liberty to choose their own brainwashing than have some communist mandatory atheism. [19:36] theres no facts or truth behind any of their religious dogma, all it does is impair critical thinking but they like that because they want obedient servants and dont want you to think for yourself [19:40] hey pi31415 what does atheism have to do with communism? do they go hand in hand? [19:40] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mefXbLXlRpw <---- lol ? 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[19:45] just think if parents had the right to abort their children up until they graduated high school and moved out of their parents house, that would be some good motivation for children to be on their best behaviour :D (just kidding) [19:46] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:46] "you better quit picking on your little sister or i will abort you billy" :D [19:46] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "mellon, i want a damn mellon!" [19:47] I remember an episode of the 80's twilight zone remake where a kid traded in his misbehaving parents for a more desirable replacement. [19:47] Basically, his parents would be stuck in a zoo-like viewing gallery until they could convince some other kid that they were more desirable. [19:48] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:48] human evolution would be quite different if that was the case [19:49] KAAaaaahnnn! [19:49] never happen though, most all parents love their children too much, so much that they tend to ignore bad behaviour sometimes [19:50] redtricycle1 (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-160-131.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left ##slackware. [19:51] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [19:51] harls (n=harls@c-98-204-57-154.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: [19:55] Fzza3a (n=Fzza3a@41.221.17.52) left irc: "Leaving" [19:55] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:55] pi31415: this sounds a good idea in theory ... but parents without an emotional investment in their child would have less incentive to keep it alive [19:55] (re twilight zone, i'm lagging by three minutes atm) [19:57] kitche_ (n=kitche@64-16-204-221.static.sagonet.net) joined ##slackware. [19:57] Pig_Pen: huh? evolution is a fact? :P [19:57] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:57] theres too much evidence to keep considering it a theory [20:01] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [20:03] Hey, I'm back. [20:03] ;) [20:03] did you get your lilo problem fixed? [20:04] I only tried the 3 suggestions by nille. They didn't help. [20:04] I got a little tired of that computer... [20:05] I'll try other solutions on other days ( if there are any suggestions...). [20:05] Here I have another question: [20:05] did you tri the one agentc0re posted http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/lilo-wont-boot-windows-142779/ [20:06] Why does "rcp LaptopHomeDaniel.tar daniel@192.168.1.14:/home/daniel" only leave a blank line and does not even come back to a prompt? [20:06] http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LILO-4.html http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+WinNT.html [20:06] No, I have not already read these texts. Give some time, ok? I am just bored of that problem in the moment. Argh! :D [20:06] I bookmarked it. [20:07] lol [20:07] grazymax (n=grazymax@host18-25-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Connection timed out [20:07] I think I figured it out this time. [20:07] grazymax (n=grazymax@host165-154-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:08] ccfreak2k what was it? [20:08] Got it. [20:08] /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so was missing. [20:09] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:10] I'd like to copy a big file in my home network unencrypted from on computer to another. I tried this, but it didn't work: [20:10] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [20:10] rcp LaptopHomeDaniel.tar daniel@192.168.1.14:/home/daniel [20:10] Is there any server program required to run on the target computer? [20:11] nille, I noticed that Xorg.0.conf showed the path to libglx.so, so I followed it and found libglx.la and libdri.la as well...but not libdri.so. [20:12] When I enter that command, there is just an empty line appearing in bash. [20:12] strange and you used ati installer? [20:12] keoni (i=1000@208.106.15.140) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:14] I used the AMD installer to generate Slackware packages previously, so it may have something to do with the disappearance of libdri.so...but I'm 0% sure on that. [20:14] less the package to found out [20:16] grazymax (n=grazymax@host165-154-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:17] kitche_ (n=kitche@64-16-204-221.static.sagonet.net) left irc: Connection timed out [20:20] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [20:20] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [20:21] yht|off (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [20:23] And after a while "192.168.1.14: Connection refused" is being returned. [20:24] Now there seems to be an issue with the bottom portion of the screen becoming scrambled in 1600x1200. [20:25] Nick change: yht|off -> yht [20:25] Any SQL gurus around? I have two tables.. works_on (employee#/project#/hours) and projects(name/project#) I want to list all employee# that work on ALL projects.. It's easy to get the list of projects but I'm not sure how to get my list of employees that works on all of them w/o doing a query for each employee one by one [20:25] anyone know a method to do this in a single sql statement? [20:25] vatgas1 (n=val@123.145.52.98) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:26] well whats the tables name? [20:26] works_on and project [20:28] fireking (n=STRESSAD@201.86.182.89.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:31] hersonls (n=hersonls@189.12.255.60) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:32] grazymax (n=grazymax@host167-2-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:32] Wait what? [20:32] You want a list of employees that are working on all projects? [20:32] how does DESCRIBE show the tables? [20:36] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060015e97b42ff.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:36] makerc (n=makerc@200-158-25-41.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:36] I have two tables.. table1: works_on contains the following columns (employee#, project#, hours) and table2: projects contains columns (name, project#) [20:37] If I "select distinct project# from projects" I get a list of all projects [20:37] then I want to examine table works_on to see what employee# has a result for each project# [20:38] I don't know how to do something like select employee# from works_on where employee#/project# matches every result in (select distinct project# from projects) [20:39] sorry if I'm explaining it so poorly.. It feels like an odd query to do.. [20:41] like if I wanted to know what employees worked on project "ProductX" I would select employee# from works_on join projects on works_on.project# = projects.project# where projects.name = "productX" [20:41] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.56.156.252) joined ##slackware. [20:41] Nick change: Shuren -> Jimmen [20:42] but what I want is to list all employee#s who have a record in works_on for every project# [20:42] Shuren (n=Devilman@host62-170-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:42] select * from works_on WHERE project="my_project"; [20:42] does you mean something like that [20:43] hey what do i do when i've got a process that is not being killed when i sent the kill signal to it's process id? [20:43] without restarting? [20:43] kill -9 it [20:43] be aware there may be data loss [20:43] as it cant catch that signal [20:43] it didn't kill it [20:44] nille: like me try and give a better example.. [20:44] is it a zombie? [20:44] or is it in a I/O sleep? [20:44] cpunches 3904 9.0 19.1 539264 196696 ? Dl 20:02 9:08 /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.7/firefox-bin [20:44] f'ng firefox. it's been unstable for me for a long time [20:44] yep, Deep sleep [20:44] it crashed and i had to force quit [20:44] hi... when i change my /etc/profile, my commands stop, sample: startx, uname, shutdown,...,...,... [20:44] so what do i do [20:45] Action: NyteOwl hasn't had any trouble with FF [20:45] maybe I'm just lucky [20:45] nille: say I have a table that contains two records.. parent and child. So an example would be (Dan, Jordan) (Dan, Dustin) (Bob, Jordan) now I want to list all parents who have children Dustin and Jordan [20:45] this is like a daily issue [20:45] Wescotte, I don't understand completely. Can you give an example of what kind of output you want? [20:45] j0z (n=UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [20:45] Jimmen (n=Devilman@host62-170-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "In silence we still talk..." [20:45] fireking: well you probably messed up your /etc/profile like the PATH [20:46] damn it [20:46] nille: so I could say select parent where child = 'Jordan' AND child = 'Dustin' right? how can I do that for a dynamic # of children [20:46] Tirili (n=opera@dslb-088-070-042-140.pools.arcor-ip.net) left ##slackware. [20:47] flash locks my sound server (no other app can use it until I stop the web browser)... is there any way around this? [20:47] test34: umm install a newer flash [20:47] test34: your using a flash that is still use OSS for sound [20:48] kitche, I have flash 10 (probably the latest) [20:48] kitche, yes, i modified for put variable of ambient (jdk)... [20:48] 10,0,22,87 installed [20:48] test34: hmm then it should not lock up the sound server sicne it sues alsa by default [20:48] Action: dartmouth does kill -9 3904 about 70 times and points at nothing happening [20:48] snL40 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Client Quit [20:48] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:48] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [20:48] ccfreak2k: did my second example make any more sense? [20:49] fireking: well revert the /etc/profile back to the way it was if you ketp a backup of course [20:49] fireking: and never edit /etc/profile unless of course you want jdk to be for global [20:49] Wescotte, I think so. The gears in my head aren't turning, though. [20:50] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) joined ##slackware. [20:50] dartmouth: kill -9 wont do anything to a zombie [20:50] what should i be doing, then? [20:50] dartmouth: reboot [20:50] kitche, I have alsa as default sound server.. any idea what could be wrong ? [20:51] kitche, well, i not backup /etc/profile.. ;( [20:51] wtf [20:51] Doesn't your text editor make an automatic backup? [20:51] Wescotte: select * from parent where ( select * from child ) [20:52] Something like that might be a step in the right direction. [20:52] grazymax (n=grazymax@host167-2-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:52] I think you'll need a subquery to determine the number of children (and return the names of said children). [20:52] Or maybe some kind of join/union, select children instead and filter/list only the parents. [20:52] ccfreak2k: yeah I know the subquery.. It's just I dunno how to compare multiple results.. [20:53] grazymax (n=grazymax@host205-133-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:53] ah "union" is the word I was looking for Ithink.. :) [20:54] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:54] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:57] hmm maybe not.. my head hurts :) [20:57] I took an SQL 101 class and only really made it halfway through. [20:57] I get joins but not unions. [20:58] fireking (n=STRESSAD@201.86.182.89.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: [20:59] the workers shall control the means of production [20:59] heh [20:59] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:00] SELECT parent,child FROM works_on WHERE child="Jordan" AND child="Dustin"; [21:00] lns40, example? [21:00] you mean like that? [21:00] SELECT parent FROM works_on WHERE child="Jordan" AND child="Dustin"; [21:01] nille, he wants to have the number of "child=" based on how many unique children there are. [21:01] nille: yes but the issue is the # of child='s is defined by a subquery [21:01] test34: you were all talking about unions so I remembered this stuff from grim fandango :) [21:01] lns40: man I gotta play that game again someday! [21:01] lns40, ah;) [21:01] Wescotte: yeah ;) [21:02] ok [21:02] Wescotte, COUNT(DISTINCT child) ? [21:02] test34: nah.. [21:03] lns40, the game? [21:03] Ok, in my specific problem I have these two tables.. table1: works_on containing employee#, project# and table2: projects containing project_name, project# [21:03] tije (n=tije@189.175.113.57) left irc: "leaving" [21:03] ccfreak2k: yeah [21:04] I first get a list of all projects.. ie select distinct project# from projects [21:04] SQL is in Grim Fandango? [21:04] lol [21:04] then I want to use THAT table to produce a list of employee#s that are currently working on ALL those projects [21:04] Wescotte, do you want the end result to return the same number of rows as there are projects? [21:04] ccfreak2k: # of rows is variable.. 0 to N [21:05] Well yeah, but so is the number of projects. [21:05] yeah [21:05] ccfreak2k: the worker bees starts a union [21:05] Wescotte, I see.. did you try #mysql [21:05] But, if you have more than one employee on a given project, the same project is going to show up in more than one row. [21:05] I was in #sql but nobody responded [21:05] I'll try #mysql [21:06] I can solve your problem for $20 [21:08] in the eyes of a child the world seems magical theres a sparkle in their eyes as if just to realize the bastards they really are... [21:08] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:08] SELECT employee# FROM works_on WHERE project#="ProdjectX"; [21:08] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:08] i don't understand what you realy want [21:08] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [21:08] Ok, works_on contains a list of employees and the projects tehy work on [21:09] so something like (employee#1, project1) is a row [21:09] you can have (employee#1, project2) as another row [21:09] so employee#1 works on project1 and project2 [21:09] I want to list all employees that work on ALL projects [21:10] so if there are 3 projects then employee#1 isn't in the list because he only works on project 1 and 2 [21:10] god I hate databases [21:10] me too [21:10] but (employee2, project1)(employee2,project2) (employee2, project3) rows would make employee2 a valid result because he is part of all 3 projects [21:11] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-9.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] It's got to be something to simple I'm just overlooking it [21:11] is a database admin higher up on the food chain than a network admin? [21:11] Action: Wescotte writes somethig up on pastebin to better explain [21:11] antler: depends on the complexity of both :) [21:12] me_ (n=me_@78.146.90.4) joined ##slackware. [21:13] generally speaking? [21:14] database admin sounds super boring :P [21:14] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:14] Action: nooper <3 databases [21:15] yuo can do the left join, right join hokey kokey [21:15] http://pastebin.ca/1390161 <-- ok this might better explain it [21:16] grazymax (n=grazymax@host205-133-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Connection timed out [21:17] Politics (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:17] antler: It depends on the job. [21:19] aha I figured out a way to do it.. however I dunno if there is a better way :) [21:20] TIMTOWTDI [21:22] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:24] test34: you were right with the count(distinct ....) i dunno why I didn't realize that before.. still feels like imperfect solution [21:24] ppppppoof (n=hooh@190.80.225.20) left irc: "Leaving" [21:26] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:30] ikl673 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:31] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-170-151-178.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:32] aBiNg (n=aBiNg@218.94.136.179) joined ##slackware. [21:36] Nick change: Guest92995 -> sidmario [21:36] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-67-151.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:37] _makerc (n=makerc@201-93-245-101.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[22:05] lol [22:05] xfree86 lol [22:08] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:08] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:08] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.148.221.134) joined ##slackware. [22:12] aBiNg (n=aBiNg@218.94.136.171) joined ##slackware. [22:12] hmm, anyone know how to make the system beep start working? it just stopped for some reason :( [22:12] xset -b [22:13] err [22:13] thats to turn it off [22:13] yea...besides xset, i have played with the xset stuff and its not working... [22:14] i'm pretty sure it was working last week...and i haven't done anything since then [22:14] is it in your login.def? or something [22:14] i haven't logged out... [22:15] are you talking about when you go backspace on a empty command line [22:15] it goes BEEP? [22:15] exactly.. [22:15] what virtual console are you using? [22:15] why oh why would you want that ? [22:15] ping me [22:16] screen konsole and verious others take over... [22:16] edman007: ping [22:16] hi everybody , [22:16] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:16] hmm, alright...xchat beeps, pidgin and terminal don't :( [22:16] paissad: hello dr nick [22:16] me_ (n=me_@78.146.90.4) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:16] edman007: what terminal are you using? [22:16] terminal [22:16] i would like to know if it's normal that header function works after the use of echo ! [22:16] http://pastebin.fr/4069 [22:16] http://pastebin.com/m1c55ba3d <--- anyone ever seen this? [22:17] go look in the profiles then... [22:17] it works with opera, ffx and IE6 [22:17] :) [22:17] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:18] koolniczka (n=nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:18] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:18] oh sorry guys, i am mistaken for the channel ! [22:18] i thought i was on #php [22:18] sorry :/ [22:18] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:19] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [22:20] lol [22:21] dartmouth: its xine... [22:21] nater_ (n=nater@68-187-107-216.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:22] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) joined ##slackware. [22:23] sorry lns40 but you're not telling me anything I don't know; yes, the application that I am intentionally trying to run is called xine, unless you are telling me that this linux standard software is subpar to run on a system that it comes packaged with. [22:23] does anyone know what the issue there is? [22:24] dartmouth: since when did xine become standard :P [22:24] oh ok, so software that comes packaged with the distro isn't standard and shouldn't be repaired when it's broken... [22:24] Sergio (n=Sergio@unaffiliated/sergio) left irc: "..." [22:25] im not sure exactly what you're saying, so sorry if im reading that wrong [22:29] so how many of you dual boot with windows or have windows knowlodge or have windows machines [22:29] i need some help [22:29] spiki (n=spiki@85.222.135.2) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:29] i've not used windows proply in 8 years, need some security advice. [22:30] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat076.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [22:30] acidchild: is it a legit copy of windoze? [22:30] Finally got DRI working. [22:30] What a pain. [22:30] acidchild, I dual-boot. [22:30] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: No route to host [22:30] acidchild: if it is make sure you run windoze update [22:31] lns40: no, its a XP SP3 corperate one [22:31] with built in key [22:31] acidchild: i dual boot [22:31] so normaly them corperate licences are multi use... [22:31] multi-system [22:32] acidchild: you should be all set with avg-free and windows defender [22:32] link? [22:32] Stella_Caeli (i=Stella@78-20-190-43.access.telenet.be) joined ##slackware. [22:32] free.avg.com [22:32] Action: dartmouth grumbles [22:32] how do i do a windows update? it says automatic updates are turned on [22:32] you're messing with my torrent hoarding [22:33] so surely it should update me? [22:33] or warn me to update? [22:33] acidchild, it'll automatically install updates as they come down. [22:33] you probably want to be careful with the updates as i think there is some...weirdness there unless you've got a truly legit copy [22:33] meh, its just a vbox [22:34] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:34] acidchild: hehe, conficker away [22:34] it says i'm up to date. [22:35] neuro_sys (n=neuro_sy@88.236.70.64) left irc: Client Quit [22:35] its asking me to validate your windows software [22:35] :P [22:36] acidchild, you can also check to see if there are updates available by selecting Windows Update in Start > All Programs. [22:37] do i need to valid date to get the conficker update? [22:37] vaidate* [22:37] If it's pushed as a high-priority update, I don't think so. [22:38] okey, i think i'm protected :/ [22:38] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "kernel upgrade" [22:38] You can also get the patch from here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=0D5F9B6E-9265-44B9-A376-2067B73D6A03&displaylang=en [22:39] uhoh... [22:39] it says my windows didn't pass [22:39] so does this mean is gonna start acting ghey? [22:40] Well, it means you won't be able to get non-critical updates from Windows Update. [22:40] cool [22:40] w/e :P [22:40] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [22:41] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:41] i just need windows for some random peices of driver support. [22:41] not really gonna use it for anything. =P [22:41] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. 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[22:44] ooh okey [22:45] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [22:45] ccfreak2k: they are just the CD's that come with pre-installed versions of windows on "gateway" computers [22:45] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [22:46] You can still try to change the product key, but I bet it'll reject it. [22:46] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:46] okey :-) [22:46] but if i install of the CD i should be okey? [22:46] and if not, i can always call up microsoft... or w/e [22:47] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [22:48] my god! my first "no responding" message [22:48] bah! [22:48] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) joined ##slackware. [22:50] i hate that [22:51] ah i see, during reboot it installs updates [22:52] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:53] auto updates are the debble [22:55] yay. finally!!! [22:55] took me only 4 hours to compile 17 different things [22:56] nexuiz was the biggest [22:56] http://gnodes.org/irc/logs/subgenius-20090412.log [22:56] oops lol that was -not- the link i was looking to paste [22:57] all hail "bob" [22:59] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.148.221.134) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:05] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [23:06] Action: chopp whips out his club and beats dartmouth like he was a baby seal. Like the true canadian I am eh. 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[23:12] chopp: jerk :-( [23:12] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:13] acidchild: don't worry, I really don't agree with that barbaric ritual. [23:15] Stella_Caeli (i=Stella@78-20-190-43.access.telenet.be) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:15] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [23:16] chopp: what'd I do? (p.s. not cut out for a seal methinks; way too physical for a career thing) [23:16] i could probably get there, but i simply dont want to [23:16] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:16] chopp: all my problems, once again, stem from ath5k and support for my cards [23:16] they incorrectly list the chipsets i have as working [23:17] nullboy: crap! I was hoping you had more success than I did with it today. :( [23:17] chopp: wifi with linux is a mess right now. [23:18] i have zero issues with my wifi once i figured it out [23:18] filiberto (n=filibert@189.174.139.177) left irc: "[BX] Connection reset by panasync?" [23:18] (i just cant put it into f'n promisc mode) [23:18] yes I know. My card works great though with WPA-PSK, so I'm not sure what I am doing wrong with this EAP-TLS [23:18] dartmouth: yeah well you're not trying to do what chopp and i are [23:19] chopp: good :-/ [23:19] EAP-TLS is bundles of fun [23:19] skibur (n=skibur@ppp-69-153-66-214.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:20] probably not, my packets don't like packed. [23:20] very poor documentation on it. [23:20] i'm using ath5k with the all of the latest userspace tools (hostapd + integrated EAP, wpa_supplicant, m2, iw, crda, reg bin and 2.6.29.1. my cards will not broadcast [23:21] i can connect the same card to WPA2-PSK but i cannot put that card into master mode and do EAP or even wpa2 using hostapd [23:21] same driver bullshit deal [23:21] Does anyone know of a good guide for an embedded terminal on the desktop? I was googling some and have been trying with aterm, but I can't get rid of the window borders and title bar. [23:22] and no, madwifi is not an option [23:23] so everyone knows wtf is up here, my particular card with ath5k IS working as an AP, but can't connect yet with the other ath5k card using EAP-TLS [23:23] filiberto (n=filibert@189.174.139.177) joined ##slackware. [23:23] chopp: are you sure you can connect to it using WPA2-PSK? [23:24] because this AR2414 is a whole load of fail with everything [23:24] nullboy: yes thats what I've been using for a few weeks now. [23:24] client mode is fine though [23:24] be (n=chattr@084202232218.customer.alfanett.no) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:24] this makes me furious. it's so fscked up i can't even properly troubleshoot it for a bug report [23:24] be (n=chattr@084202232218.customer.alfanett.no) joined ##slackware. [23:25] I think I'm doing something wrong with the keys/wpa_supplicant.conf but I've no idea yet what. [23:26] i'm pretty damn certain all my problems are ath5k related [23:26] sergio__ (n=Sergio@unaffiliated/sergio) joined ##slackware. [23:26] hostapd totally crashed my system [23:26] hardlocked [23:26] wow really. :( [23:26] and i get loads of this bullshit too not using net_device_ops yet [23:26] nullboy, nah, blame the wifi drivers [23:26] edman007: i know it is the drivers.... [23:27] hostapd uses the drivers.... [23:27] still not its fault [23:27] yeah well you'd be surprised [23:27] blame the drivers...mention what drivers you are using [23:27] nl80211 [23:27] + ath5k [23:28] ath5k is a piece of shit [23:28] if i had money to throw at the dev i would have a long time ago [23:29] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:29] ohh...you got ath5k to work with hostapd? i didn't think that was in the vanilla kernel yet [23:30] god. [23:30] well semi-work [23:30] they say it works since 2.6.29 but it is still unstable with certain chipsets [23:30] their documentation is full of crap too [23:30] hmmm... [23:30] maybe i will try soon [23:30] i have two cards using two chipsets that they claim "work" but they clearly suck [23:31] what chipsets? [23:31] i got 10:09.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) [23:31] one is an AR2414 and the other is an AR53XX [23:31] i have two ABG cards that are useless [23:31] heh [23:32] madwifi is crap too with the stuck beacon bug that no one seems to be able to fix [23:32] everyone just tells me "well try this branch, it might do it LESS" [23:32] wtf [23:32] so then now, what OS actually has decent wifi AP mode support? [23:33] because this is unacceptable [23:33] nullboy, well i won't recommend that you try something else [23:33] i will just recommend you wait [23:34] redtricycle1 (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-160-131.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:34] use OSX when i need wifi on my laptop, and for my desktop well i got my wrt54g to provide wifi services [23:34] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:36] edman007: both my cards are AR5001X+, and work with ath5k including AP mode. [23:36] nice [23:36] but are they ABG cards? [23:37] nullboy: nope BG [23:37] i want to just snap all this useless crap in half [23:37] i got an ABG in my laptop... [23:37] not sure what that is though, some type of atheros [23:37] and you're not running in master mode though [23:38] client mode is mostly fine [23:38] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.7.104) joined ##slackware. [23:38] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:39] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [23:39] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-14-135-46.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:39] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-14-135-46.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:41] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [23:41] is it posible to map a usb port on a vbox vmachine? [23:42] so i can plug in a device thats windows only driver... [23:42] and use a windows vbox to use the software? [23:42] acidchild: you have to be running the closed source binary vbox version. then yes usb support. [23:43] does it cost? [23:43] acidchild: I am running itunes in a vista vbox and accessing my touch ipod via USB [23:43] no [23:43] link? [23:44] the virtualbox site under downloads [23:44] http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads [23:44] thanks dude. [23:44] get the Binaries not the open source and you will have usb support [23:45] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) left irc: "leaving" [23:45] acidchild: Also note you'll have to add a line to fstab for usb support, in case you don't know that already. [23:46] ah... [23:47] acidchild: I use: none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=102,devmode=664 0 0 [23:47] Where 102 is vboxusers group id #. [23:47] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) joined ##slackware. [23:47] and also add yourself to the vboxusers group acidchild [23:47] MrDusty (n=dusty@217.155.141.46) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:48] Cann0n (n=Cann0n@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:49] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.7.104) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:50] dtanner: nice. [23:50] Is there a way to determine the position of a terminal window. I want to make an embedded terminal on the desktop and I have xfce's terminal open and where I want it. How can I found out it's coordinates or whatever? [23:51] s/found/find/ [23:51] berkough (n=berkough@ip70-180-206-62.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:54] Cann0n (n=Cann0n@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [23:55] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:58] cylux (n=user@CPE00032f37fa0d-CM0014e825df0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [23:59] Hey guys, I have a 40 gig standard IDE drive that I plan to install slackware on (including swap space). Since my drive is IDE will I notice considerable slow-downs in performance? [00:00] --- Mon Apr 13 2009