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[00:16] hey #slackware, i was in here a little bit ago asking about mkinitrd and slack13 on a usb harddrive, i've tried running mkinitrd off the install dvd, no avail. i also created a usb boot stick, still nothing.. i was just wondering if anyone could give me a hand. thanks in advance. [00:17] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [00:18] why are you running that command from the install CD or a bootable USB ? [00:19] because when i try and boot off the usb harddrive it says "missing operating system" [00:19] so you have the install on a USB drive and want to boot that usb drive, not a hard drive? [00:21] as far as I know the default kernels in slackware are not set up to boot from a USB drive. you will have to do some custom prep work to make that happen [00:21] i made a "boot floppy" on a usb stick using the installer, but i've installed slack13 on a 500gb external usb harddrive. i thought maybe the stick would allow me to boot the usb harddrive, but when it gets going it says kernel panic cannot mount from unknown mount point (0,0) (or something similar to that) [00:21] I guess I should say the default salckware in general, as it is likely more than just kernel stuff [00:21] andarius: huge kernel will boot a usb drive just fine [00:21] hugesmp.s? [00:22] XGizzmo: ohh, so perhaps you can help him :) [00:22] yes [00:22] that's the one i used [00:22] you also need to use rootdelay=10 when booting. [00:23] And it sounds like you did not install lilo [00:23] well the first time, i did install lilo, but to the / not the mbr [00:23] this second time i did not install lilo, i figured the usb stick would do that work. [00:23] If you want it to boot it will need to be in the mbr of the usb drive. [00:25] okay, and if i choose mbr it will not affect the internal harddrive from booting if i disconnect the usb drive, correct? [00:25] In other words you install just like you were installing to a internal harddrive. [00:25] oh ok [00:25] Then when it ask you if you need any boot option for lilo you use rootdelay=10 [00:26] dartmouth (n=dartmout@pool-72-65-98-68.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [00:26] and that's it? i don't have to add the kernel and root=/dev etc.. etc... only rootdelay=10? [00:26] (i normally just hit enter, i dont add anything) [00:27] yeah but make sure you are installing to the usb drive and not your normal harddrive. [00:27] You can not use the simple lilo install choice. [00:27] hehe yes, i have been triple checking that the size is 500gb and not 300gb... [00:27] you have to pick expert. [00:27] ok.. [00:28] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "I have tried so many beers to date, sadly so many of them sucked :(" [00:28] i've never used that option, is there anything special i need to know? (i've edited lilo.conf before a couple times... but nothing extensive, mostly the boot delay from 2 min to 10 sec...) [00:28] after you get it working with the huge kernel then you can go the initrd and generic kernel route. [00:29] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [00:30] hai gaz :D [00:30] okay, so i will reinstall, choosing expert at the lilo prompt, adding rootdelay=10 to the boot options, and after that i should be okay to boot up? [00:30] MikeSee: Not really it is not all that cryptic. [00:31] assuming i dont mess anything else up... hehe [00:31] as log as you dont format the wrong drive you are okay. [00:32] okay i am going to go give this a third try, its a charm right? heh [00:32] adaptr_ (n=jgeilman@xs.adaptr.nl) joined ##slackware. [00:32] even if you screw up lilo its easy to fix. [00:32] looker_ (i=looker@tornado.ktu.lt) joined ##slackware. [00:32] ilj (n=ilj@195.88.15.2) joined ##slackware. [00:32] adaptr (n=jgeilman@unaffiliated/adaptr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:32] thanks for your help XGizzmo , i really appreciate it.. i am very excited to get slack13 up and running [00:33] cool. first time slack user? [00:33] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.150.140) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:34] I hate to run but I have to be up for work in 5 hours. [00:34] gm152 (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:34] gtfo! [00:34] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:34] alreadygone (i=1000@59.103.215.92) joined ##slackware. [00:35] mancha: no, i have a slack10.2 server from a while ago, but i've never tried installing to an external usb drive so this is something new for me [00:36] time to try gizzmo's advice, here we go :D [00:36] oh i missed all the details, i just saw you excited about a soon-to-be slack 13 install :) [00:36] hehe yep, i sure am [00:36] mancha: tuck it back in [00:36] thanks XGizzmo ! [00:37] MikeSee (n=mike@S0106001c1012075c.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:37] looker (i=looker@tornado.ktu.lt) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:38] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [00:38] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:39] beltorak (n=drandill@c-68-34-47-77.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:40] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Client Quit [00:40] hi all; when do the scripts in /etc/profile.d run, and what invokes them? [00:41] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [00:41] man bash and search for invocation [00:41] the bash exe invokes it? ok; thanks [00:43] is there a shortcut to quit vi without saving? [00:43] :q! [00:44] I'm looking for a shortcut - something easier to type [00:44] which is like the mot basic vi command there is.... [00:44] lol [00:44] hah [00:44] like ZZ quits and saves [00:44] hold down the power button on your computer until it turns off [00:44] i want "quit, no save" [00:44] hahahahahaha - server, not local [00:44] so 2 chars is ok but 3 is just insane? [00:44] mancha: 3 is a good time! [00:44] the shift kills the quick-type-ability cause it has to be timed right with the other two key presses [00:44] yeah, seriously [00:44] :| [00:45] beltorak: dude. [00:45] don't know if serious [00:45] i'd be happier with :Q! [00:45] this is so wrong [00:45] you could bind a key to quit [00:46] is there an easy way to get a keystroke sequence "aliased" to it - something that would error out when pressed into a standard vi installation? (vim, not elvis) [00:46] with a macro [00:46] thats the thing - i'll look at macros next; thanks [00:46] :psyduck: [00:47] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "Leaving" [00:48] ok; here's the next profile.d question; in one of my scripts I prepend the sbin paths to the PATH and export the var if the logged in user is a member of a certain group - but it doesn't seem to work.... [00:48] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:48] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [00:49] does the export not work if it is done on the same line as the var set? ( like "export PATH=yada:yada:yada:$PATH" ) [00:49] nothing wrong with export var=blah [00:50] thats what I figured; [00:50] ughhh! so used to windows, lowercased the var (*forhead slap*) [00:52] anyone else have a problem running 64-current with the flash plugin 10.0r42 and hulu keeps complaining about network connection issues? [00:53] glarb (i=1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:55] glarb (i=1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:56] didymo (n=ashley@120.156.6.87) joined ##slackware. [00:56] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:57] jmonter (i=47689732@gateway/web/freenode/x-qdwsdrfibtgmqkpl) joined ##slackware. [00:58] hello all. [00:58] tavl (n=tavl@189.70.173.132) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:58] thanks for all the help. [00:58] beltorak (n=drandill@c-68-34-47-77.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [00:59] question, I recently updated the kernel to 2.6.32.3 and now my system will not boot. [00:59] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@109.76.125.87) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:00] kernel 2.6.30 discover my hard drive as hdc and now 2.6.32.3 dectects it as sda. [01:01] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [01:01] tavl (n=tavl@189.70.173.132) joined ##slackware. [01:01] does anyone have an idea on how to get change lilo so it will configure the system as sda? [01:02] my lilo.conf has /dev/sdaX lines [01:02] xskoulax (n=Chris@sutton-family.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:03] replace your hdX with sdX ? [01:03] jmonter this didn't just happen from 2.6.30 to 2.6.32.3 unless you made config changes [01:04] its not that simple, first I need to boot to a previous kernel from a live cd, 2.6.30 and that will detect my hd as hdc. [01:04] xskoulax (n=Chris@sutton-family.net) joined ##slackware. [01:04] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.76.7.150) joined ##slackware. [01:04] second if I change lilo.conf to reflect sda it will crap because there is no such device. [01:04] did you try making a cd of slackware-current and using that to update lilo? [01:05] just happend when I did a slackpkg update, using current. [01:06] instead of a live cd, try using install disk1 from 13.0 or -current [01:06] there's an extra step to get lilo to update from the install cd, but I've done it many times because of screwing with the system and messing lilo up [01:06] tavl (n=tavl@189.70.173.132) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:08] alisonken1noc: wouldn't that try to update lilo using my hd as hdc instead of what the new kernel is detecting it as? [01:08] typically I compile my kernel and not use the one from the distro, I should it known better. [01:09] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:09] jmonter, you should write to hdc but the info in the .conf will be sda [01:09] have you tried it? [01:09] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:09] yes I have, and lilo will not complete because there is no such device. [01:10] try lilo with the -b option and specify /dev/hda [01:10] I'll give that a try. [01:10] thc [01:10] what do you mean no such device? [01:10] thx [01:11] mancah: "dev/sda" [01:11] ok i am having a twilight zone moment here [01:11] just pastebin the lilo.conf you tried to use [01:12] boot = /dev/sda [01:12] mancha: he's using a livecd (kernel 2.6.30) which detects hda, but the new kernel (2.6.32.3) detects it as sda [01:12] image =/boot/vmlinuz [01:12] doofus21 (n=csujbc@dcslab-20.dcs.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:12] root=/dev/sda3 [01:13] IOW - he's trying to slackpkg upgrade to -current, but he's using an older kernel which still uses hda [01:13] jmonter: use a pastebin, don't copy your config here [01:13] ThomasLocke_ (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:13] sorry.. [01:13] so thats fine then. either omit the boot= line or else force it with a -b as alison daid [01:13] said [01:14] How do I create two less than signs << in html? < seems to require a space in between [01:14] << [01:14] danke [01:14] did you notice the semicolon? that's required for html special codes [01:16] yh, [01:19] well in order to lilo to complete, I had to omit boot= and root= [01:20] w/o root it won't boot [01:20] otherwise fatal Illegal 'root=' [01:20] Fatal: Illegal 'root=' specification: /dev/sda3 [01:21] urthwrm (n=hooch@unaffiliated/urthwrm) left irc: "leaving" [01:21] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:21] Nick change: ThomasLocke_ -> ThomasLocke [01:21] Fatal Illegal 'root=' specification: /dev/sda3 [01:22] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [01:22] kde refuses to save my keyboard repeat rate settings [01:22] kde4 in latest -current, anyone else? [01:23] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Connection timed out [01:23] I guess I'll remove my hd mounted via usb giving me the right hardware settings under 2.6.30 [01:24] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:24] MikeSee (n=mike@S0106001c1012075c.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:24] jmonter, boot into bash mount the drive (which is sdX) and write to lilo.conf [01:24] Action: MikeSee cheers [01:24] ie chroot into the drive, edit the conf, and write [01:24] jmonter: try looking for a livecd that uses a newer kernel - or burn a cd from the current repository [01:25] i finally got slack13 working 98% :D yay [01:25] i.e. when you boot with new kernel and old lilo.conf doesn't it just dump you into "i kick ass" mode? [01:26] that would be hard, not many distros are using the latest kernel. I guess I'll have to build one. Was trying to see if there was an easier way of doing it. [01:26] mancha: you got it. [01:27] ok - other than flash suckyness in general, the 'illegal instruction' in the 64-bit flash officially sucks as well [01:27] ok, so mkdir mnt; mount /dev/sdaX /mnt [01:27] MikeSee: 8) [01:28] vi /mnt/etc/lilo.conf -> hokus pokus -> ZZ [01:28] etc etc [01:28] only thing that doesnt work is the networking :D (there are no /dev/eth's) not my wireless or the wired show up... [01:28] I'm thinking the workaround plugin for the illegal instruction is what's causing hulu to have network issues for streaming flash content [01:28] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) joined ##slackware. [01:28] MikeSee: nothing appears when you run "ifconfig" ? [01:29] MikeSee: what chipset [01:29] both wired and wireless [01:29] and are the modules getting loaded for those chips? [01:30] well thx for all the ideas gentleman.. have a great night or day. [01:30] oh, i didnt try ifconfig, i tried the network manager in kde (which pops up saying can't parse XML and crashes at the "configured adapters" window if i right click) one sec ill get my chipsets [01:30] jmonter, did it work? [01:30] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [01:31] I'll have to reboot currently using the computer in question with a live cd I created a long time ago. [01:32] wireless: intel pro/wireless 3945ABG, wired: realtek RTL8168/8111 Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0) [01:32] jmonter, ok don't reboot yet [01:33] let me think about the question a bit more.... [01:33] oops - I see an NDIS in there [01:33] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:33] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) joined ##slackware. [01:33] whats the question? [01:34] no prob. [01:34] the current branch kernel was mentioned in distrowatch weekly,udev,libata relayed [01:34] relayed/related sorry [01:35] alisonken1noc: is that bad? [01:37] jmonter, i don't see why alison's initial suggestion won't work [01:37] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [01:38] mainly because inside lilo.conf the root has to point to /dev/sda3 causing lilo to complain. [01:39] Let's just say using non-linux drivers sucks - even when necessary [01:39] so you changed all hd's to sd's and used the right -b flag? [01:39] is the wireless easier to setup than the wired in my case? [01:40] I don't use knetworkmanager, I use wicd from /extra [01:40] my only choice now is to either boot to a distro with latest kernel as he mention or copy the kernel and modules from my live cd and running lilo. [01:40] can you pastebin the lilo.conf you're trying to write? [01:41] alisonken1noc: i could try installing that, i have the slack13 dvd... i just cant be on irc and fix it at the same time, heh [01:42] wicd is python scripts, so shouldn't be much of an issue [01:42] but if you're not seeing eth0 at least, then there's an indication that the ndis driver may not like the newer kernel setup [01:42] ndis or the driver ndis is using [01:43] http://pastebin.com/d5d90ab3d [01:44] jmonter, okay and using lilo -b /dev/hdc, doesn't work? [01:45] nope.. [01:45] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.40.1) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:45] ok, here's a thought. change your root= devices to the by-id pseudo devs. [01:45] Fatal Illegal 'root=' specification: /dev/sda4 [01:46] ls -l /dev/disk/by-id will show who's who [01:46] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.92.108.166) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:46] i'll try that. [01:46] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.96.22.243) joined ##slackware. [01:47] alisonken1noc: so i should try installing wicd and see if that gets me anywhere? [01:48] doofus21 (n=csujbc@dcslab-20.dcs.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: "Leaving." [01:48] well, wicd will only work if the devices are detected :) but I don't think it will die on you as much as knetworkmanager [01:48] okay, well i will give it a shot [01:48] whats the worst that can happen right? [01:49] :) [01:49] wicd also has both gui and ncurses modes for clients [01:49] just make sure your user is listed in the netdev group before using [01:51] jmonter, i don't like my idea anymore. i go back to using the "i kick ass" power at the lilo prompt (with borked aka old conf) [01:51] i havnt created a user yet, still using root [01:52] MikeSee: baaaad user! [01:52] especially on irc [01:52] oh, im not on slackware right now [01:52] (remember? no internet) [01:53] so..baaaadd Administrator? [01:53] (tm) [01:53] i know not to use root on irc, i learned that with slack10.2 hehe [01:53] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.74.223) left irc: "Leaving" [01:53] okay, i am going to reboot into slack and install wicd, and see how that goes.. and ill also try ifconfig as well.. [01:55] i use a hacked ident so i can irc as root and not be booted [01:55] thanks alisonken1noc for you help :) [01:55] here i go! [01:55] MikeSee (n=mike@S0106001c1012075c.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:56] mancha: you should try out dvl [01:56] mancha, thx.. my kid is not feeling well so I need to attend to him.. thx everyone. [01:56] ut oh [01:56] jmonter (i=47689732@gateway/web/freenode/x-qdwsdrfibtgmqkpl) left ##slackware. [01:57] that can't be too much fun :/ [01:57] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:58] my goal is to make all my distribs more v than dvl [02:00] lol [02:01] I wonder if anyone has actually deployed that for a real production server [02:02] if they did they probably work on the security team of a known redmond operationb [02:02] nowadays [02:02] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:07] jg71 (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:07] jg71_ (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) joined ##slackware. [02:08] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: "leaving" [02:08] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.96.22.243) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:11] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.96.22.243) joined ##slackware. [02:11] well, just as jmonter has left, I found this note http://rlworkman.net/howtos/libata-switchover where robbie w. shows how to work around the upgrade to -current kernel [02:12] basically, upgrade kernel+modules, leave lilo.conf alone, change fstab to sdX, reboot, then update lilo.conf with sdX [02:12] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:15] esteeven (n=esteeven@82-32-107-213.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:16] Action: fhobia is confused what codec to choose to encode dvd [02:16] MikeSee_slack13 (n=mike@S0106001c1012075c.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [02:16] didymo (n=ashley@120.156.6.87) left irc: "ttfn" [02:16] well, hello there #slackware! [02:16] Nick change: ^kleanchap_ -> kleanchap [02:17] alisonken1noc, wicd worked!!! [02:17] excellent [02:17] :D thanks a billion! [02:17] np [02:17] now i just gotta google where to change the default wm hehe [02:17] this is so exciting!! [02:18] dartmouth (n=dartmout@pool-72-65-98-68.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:18] what do you want to use as the wm for default? [02:18] xfce4 [02:18] kde has a few too many... blips that are annoying... [02:18] /etc/X11/xinit - change the xinitrc link to point to xinitrc.xfce [02:18] i know i can just select session type xfce4 each time, but i'm going to figure out how to make it the default... (shoulda done that during install [02:19] oh, great, thanks :D [02:19] you will probably still have the kde login, though, since this just changes the default wm [02:19] MikeSee_slack13: try /usr/bin/xwmconfig [02:19] even better :) [02:20] as root? [02:20] of course [02:20] .. of course.. [02:20] sorry [02:20] or use ~/.xinitrc and startx which i like [02:21] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:21] i just did the /usr/bin/xwmconfig thats great, it brings up a menu like the installer! [02:21] i have set it to xfce and now i will go test it. thanks so much for you help :D [02:22] Deiz (n=swh@unaffiliated/deiz) left irc: "Leaving" [02:22] MikeSee_slack13 (n=mike@S0106001c1012075c.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:27] night all peace and be well! [02:28] Rat409 (n=rat@bb-205-209-66-99.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("="). [02:28] _slax0r_ (i=fire@2001:15c0:66ca:0:0:0:0:b4) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:28] _slax0r_ (i=fire@2001:15c0:66ca:0:0:0:0:b4) joined ##slackware. [02:32] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.96.22.243) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:33] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [02:34] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [02:34] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.96.22.243) joined ##slackware. [02:37] I am using dell intel 1545.Yesterday I switched from runlevel 3 to 4. After this sound stopped working and can't see the volume icon in systray. [02:38] In runlevel 3 it was working fine, btw. [02:38] Mefached (n=jonathan@66.175.144.84) joined ##slackware. [02:40] did you try going into the system settings and make sure kde is enabling sound? [02:42] MikeSee_slack13 (n=mike@S0106001c1012075c.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [02:43] i must have done something wrong because the default is still kde, i selected xfce in the /usr/bin/xwmconfig menu, and i also edited /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc to startxfce4 instead of startkde. :\ [02:43] I went to system settings-> Multimedia Sound Card name is listed there. But how do I know if it is enabled by kde? [02:44] agentc0re: whoops, sorry about that one in OT. :P [02:44] fire|bird: lol [02:44] :P [02:44] hahah [02:45] agentc0re: ok, try joining again. [02:45] whoops, it readded it. sec. [02:45] lol super banned! [02:45] Action: neogooglian trying another reboot.. [02:45] ok, now try. [02:46] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [02:46] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.96.22.243) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:46] Nick change: ga_bash -> free_fox [02:47] could anyone help me figure out where i went wrong with resetting my default wm? [02:47] Organizm (n=lane@c-69-243-237-89.hsd1.al.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:48] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:48] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.96.22.243) joined ##slackware. [02:49] I am getting the message "Audio device Intel(...) doesn't seem to work Falling back to" after reboot at startup. [02:50] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [02:50] paissad (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:51] The message appears for a second or so. So I couldn't read it completely :( [02:52] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [02:52] Organizm (n=lane@c-69-243-237-89.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:52] dartmouth (n=dartmout@pool-72-65-98-68.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [02:53] Nick change: dartmouth -> atiissue-again [02:53] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:53] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [02:54] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Client Quit [02:54] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [02:54] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [02:54] coldcog (n=coldcog@c-98-202-121-136.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:55] hello everyone, is anyone up and about tonight? [02:55] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:56] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [02:56] if anyone is not up and about tonight how will they reply you man? [02:56] glarb (i=1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:56] MikeSee_slack13 (n=mike@S0106001c1012075c.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:56] well i was gonna give it some timeout that seemed reasonable, if i didnt get anything id assume no one was about? haha [02:57] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.76.223) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:57] very smart [02:57] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [02:57] well i try, slackware is showing me how smart i really am after my recent migration from ubuntu though [02:57] i feel like a total newb again... [02:58] dartmouth (n=dartmout@mathesar.kwzs.be) joined ##slackware. [02:59] dartmouth (n=dartmout@mathesar.kwzs.be) left irc: Client Quit [02:59] in a month you'll promote yourself to "Totally Cool Newbie"... [03:00] yeah i thought i was pretty cool when i could use ubuntu, ive been on here for like the past 26 hours straight and im already feeling much more cool than i ever was with ubuntu haha [03:00] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.96.22.243) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:00] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:01] well, I should shut down my pc... it's time for electricity to go out [03:01] so i decided to come lurk in the IRC and see if i could learn anything [03:01] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [03:01] alreadygone (i=1000@59.103.215.92) left irc: "Leaving" [03:02] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:02] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [03:02] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.96.22.243) joined ##slackware. [03:03] does anyone know offhand if kde4 supports multi monitors, as dual screen, not cloned? if i read any more forums i think my eyes are going to start to bleed... [03:03] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [03:03] I switched back to runlevel 3 and the sound works now. Weird. [03:03] coldcog, I assume so, it's rather advanced feature-wise [03:04] yeah im loving it so far, im just having a really hard time to get my monitors anything but cloned [03:04] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:04] Sound is not working runlevel 4 but on runlevel 3. Any ideas? [03:04] multi screen has nothing to do with KDE, it depends on the gfx card [03:04] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [03:04] glarb (i=1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:04] you might wanna disregard my advice as im a super newb but did you try your alsamixer stuff? [03:05] well i had it working fine in ubuntu [03:05] vhargon (n=geno@125-237-37-74.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [03:05] you can set multiscreen in xorg.conf, or using some GUI util like nvidia-settings that comes with the nvidia drivers [03:05] its just that in the display setting area, there is no option to select cloned or multi screen like i had before [03:06] pupiteee (n=p@79.101.247.249) joined ##slackware. [03:06] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:06] awesome, i was trying to avoid my xorg.conf cause im pretty sure ill screw that up beyond recognition [03:06] coldcog, xorg.conf is a friendly place, just be sure to back it up [03:07] If you get in the habit of copying it to xorg.conf.bak before messing with it, it can always be fixed before booting X [03:07] coldcog but alsamixer is just for tuning right? [03:07] yeah thats true i guess, i was worried about messing it up and not being able to see to set it back, but i could drop to runlevel 3 and and edit it from there if i do something catostrophic i guess huh [03:08] I don't get the sound card itself recognized at runlevel 4 [03:08] thats one of those signs that i need some sleep... but once i have a goal i cant stop till i figure it out haha [03:08] that is super weird.. [03:10] yeah asla mix is for like changing volumes of your channels and stuff [03:10] but if you have no card you have no channels to change... [03:10] :( [03:10] how old is your computer? [03:10] around 1 year. [03:11] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [03:11] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:11] It's a core 2 duo T 6500 2.10 Ghz :( [03:11] neogooglian, significantly more powerful than mine >=O [03:12] whats a T 6500? [03:12] But as far as linux is concerned, "old is gold" [03:12] is that an HP pavillion? [03:12] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [03:12] coldcog Nope Dell. 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[03:42] cause i know that gave me an option to have cloned or dual monitors in suse [03:44] you can try, but it's unlikely to work [03:44] story of my life :p [03:44] coldcog: is that the video chip? [03:44] sax2? [03:45] intel core duo sounds like the cpu - I was asking what video chip do you have? lspci and see what the video chip is reported as [03:46] coldcog, try "lspci | grep VGA" [03:46] or "lspci | grep -i vga" [03:46] i love grep -i [03:47] Ah, yeah, grep -i is a good habit to get into [03:47] oh yeah that was the CPU, neo and i was bs'ing up there, ummm video chippp... [03:47] i dont remember off hand, let me see if i can find out... [03:49] "grep vga" nope? "grep VGA" nope? fffuuu "grep -i vga" ah there it is [03:50] eh [03:50] sorry im trying to help nogooligan out at the same time [03:50] great fun :D [03:51] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-217.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:51] coldcog, like was said, run "lspci | grep -i vga" it should return your video card [03:51] You will spend a lot of time in xterm (or whatever terminal emulator is your choice; I prefer good old-fashioned xterm with screen) [03:52] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:52] aterm <3:) [03:52] bash-3.1# lspci | grep -i vga [03:52] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) [03:52] bash-3.1# [03:58] Mefached (n=jonathan@66.175.144.84) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:01] chipster_ (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [04:02] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [04:03] coldcog: look at http://intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html and see if that helps [04:04] great thanks, i mean i know my card supports it and whatnot, i just want it to be dual screen not cloned [04:04] i have no need to see the same thing i 2 monitors, i want the second as an extension to my other one, im sure you get what im saying... [04:05] correct - and that guide should help using either the xrandr method or you can try the xorg.conf settings and see if it helps [04:06] good deal, i was hesitant of the xorg route cause it cant be static cause it wont always be plugged it [04:06] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:06] so it looks like ill be looking into xrandr [04:06] thanks :) [04:09] I have to use the xrandr method due to ati braindead proprietary binary not working on the -current kernel and the radeon driver doesn't work with the dual-head setup properly yet [04:09] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [04:10] wow really? [04:10] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.96.22.243) left irc: Client Quit [04:10] isnt ATI pretty popular? [04:12] on another topic, is it reasonable to have these groups for my user... [04:12] cdrom, audio, video, scanner, plugdev, power, lp and netdev [04:15] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:15] nvidia is usually popular, ati reasonably popular [04:15] not sure about lp, but yes [04:16] i just scoured the forums and net about how to set up my slackware system before i went ahead with it and those are what i read i should have [04:16] if you run adduser, it asks for initial group, then asks for additional groups. at the additional groups press the up arrow and it will give you a list of default secondary groups [04:18] thats true i remember reading that after i have already selected the ones i mentioned about haha [04:18] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:18] Mefached (n=jonathan@c-75-64-148-127.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:19] Azalyn (n=junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [04:19] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.96.22.243) joined ##slackware. [04:20] got my sound back. hail coldcog :-))) [04:20] haha yeeeahhh [04:20] newb power all the way [04:21] I don't think you are newb. ;) [04:21] man ive been on ubuntu for like [04:21] 2 years previous [04:22] i reformatted with slackware like 20 something hours ago :p [04:22] haha. Thanks a lot man. [04:22] I used to think Ubuntu was good, then I moved on to Slackware and FreeBSD [04:22] Never been happier [04:22] yeah anytime! i learn alot from helping :) [04:23] yeah i tried slackware a long time ago, well not that long i guess, it was right when 13 was released, and i was so used to ubuntu package system i couldnt really function [04:23] ended up staying with ubuntu [04:23] thennn i just felt a need for some progression [04:24] Apt-get is nice, but it doesn't seem meaningful when ultimately it becomes more and more rare that you need it as time goes on [04:24] so, knowing it wasnt just gonna be a point and click sorta deal, i reformatted again with a mindset to commit a bit and figure it out [04:24] There comes a point where you've sacrificed speed for convenience that isn't helping you anymore [04:24] and i have been able to figure out everything ive tried with some effort so far :) [04:25] thanks in large part to slackbuilds :) [04:25] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [04:26] yeah i really like not being dependent on that crutch [04:26] tarballs used to scare the crap outta me... [04:27] Bugz__ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-71-69.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [04:28] Personally I tend to only use Slackware's software that already comes with it or is on Slackbuilds [04:28] FreeBSD is my main system; Slackware is just to make up for BSD's deficiencies [04:28] Like tethering. :/ [04:28] yeah so far i havnt really had a NEED for anything else, but once i get settled in i get bored and want to figure out how to do more things [04:29] i read about BSD but it seemed to l33t for me haha [04:29] maybe after i mast slackware :p [04:30] FreeBSD isn't tough if you're willing to wait for compilation times [04:30] And go through a lot of man pages [04:30] Its documentation is vastly superior to any Linux distro's I've ever seen, but it has to be I guess [04:31] dios_mio (n=test@88.236.178.28) left irc: "Leaving" [04:31] what about it do you like more than nix stuff? [04:32] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:32] neogooglian did you change you default runlevel to 4? [04:35] coldcog yep i did and the sound is working now. [04:35] Mefached (n=jonathan@c-75-64-148-127.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:35] good deal, just curious [04:37] coldcog (n=coldcog@c-98-202-121-136.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:37] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-94-211.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:37] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-94-211.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:37] Bugz (n=Bugz@75.42.71.69) joined ##slackware. [04:39] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:39] zecafig (n=zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) joined ##slackware. [04:39] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.100.107) joined ##slackware. [04:42] coldcog (n=coldcog@c-98-202-121-136.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:43] zux (n=zux@80.232.209.242) joined ##slackware. [04:44] hi there [04:45] i'm having some sound issues on my laptop [04:45] the sound is gone after a suspend [04:46] wanna take this one neogooglian? haha [04:46] cool - think I figured out how to create an iso of the repository _only_ when there's an update rather than every time I check upstream [04:47] zux, is the sound totally gone, or only in the app that had been suspended? [04:47] totally [04:47] there still is a /dev/dsp [04:48] and i can control volumes with alsamixer [04:48] just no output [04:48] zux, either upgrade a kernel if you are competent enough, or try to add a pm hook to restart the sound system [04:48] this is a stock slavkware 13 kernel here [04:48] how do i restart the sound system? [04:48] zux, the stock one meaning 2.6.29.6? [04:48] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:48] uname -a [04:49] root@tofiks:~# uname -a [04:49] Linux tofiks 2.6.29.6-smp #1 SMP Mon Aug 17 00:18:05 CDT 2009 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5500 @ 1.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [04:49] install 2.6.30, it's in /extra on the disk. [04:49] might help. [04:50] hmm [04:50] i'll try [04:50] strange thing is [04:50] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Client Quit [04:50] if a try to play a mp3 [04:50] with mpg123 [04:50] Plasmius (i=Plasmius@unaffiliated/plasmastar/bot/plasmius) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:50] it decodes the song very fast [04:50] and quits playing [04:50] like the song had ended [04:51] zux, just try the .30 kernel, there are ready-made packages. [04:51] i had numerous other problems with .29. [04:51] why isnt the .30 kernel default? [04:51] Action: slava_dp thinks .32.3 is awesome [04:52] cause Pat had other problems with it apparently. [04:53] aw i see [04:53] as a bonus, .30 has better support for ext4 :) [04:54] is it worth trying ext4? [04:54] of course it is! [04:54] i use it everywhere i can now, it's really fast. [04:54] i have no idea [04:54] oh [04:54] if it's faster, i'm gonna try it :) [04:55] although if you want to be able to write to linux partitions from windose, use ext3 and ext2fsd. it does not support ext4 as of yet. [04:56] slava_dp, are you saying that 2.6.32.3 is good? [04:56] dios_mio (n=test@88.236.178.28) joined ##slackware. [04:56] hello [04:56] zux, it's great. i've custom-built it (based on Pat's generic config) just yesterday, and it flies. [04:56] i'm thinking if i change the kernel, maybe it's worth to put the newest [04:58] is there any work done for better hibernate/suspend support? [04:58] get the tarball from kernel.org, then get the 2.6.32.3 package from -current, explode it and copy the config to your build dir :) [04:58] you bet. [04:59] i have had some issues with my laptop sometimes hanging up on waking after suspend [04:59] how hard is that to do slava? upgrade the kernel [04:59] easy [04:59] easy [04:59] :P [04:59] lol for who? [04:59] coldcog, i've said the basic procedure :) [04:59] comp_ (n=comp_@81.196.151.9) joined ##slackware. [04:59] cause easy to you guys is different than easy for me [05:00] yeah i read that... [05:00] the hard part is creating the config [05:00] Mefached (n=jonathan@c-75-64-148-127.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:00] coldcog, http://blog.tpa.me.uk/slackware-kernel-compile-guide/ [05:00] use this and apply what i said. [05:00] but if you use Pat's config, it's easy [05:01] if you are not completly new to linux and slackware [05:01] you do need to now some basic things, like how to edit lilo.conf [05:01] alreadygone (i=1000@59.103.212.118) joined ##slackware. [05:01] know [05:01] speaking of that [05:01] i was trying to edit it earlier today [05:01] well i mean i did, but the setting havnt applied, i want linux ahead of XP in the list [05:01] you have to run lilo after editing for it to take effect [05:01] beware, that the .32 kernel switched to libata, if you have any /dev/hd* drives, you will have to edit your fstab, etc. [05:02] when it comes to file systems, I prefer reliability over speed anyday [05:02] i. e. they've become /dev/sd* [05:02] and look at robbie w.'s notes on that since lilo has an issue with hdX/sdX changes [05:02] oh, changes there again... [05:02] no, i have sda now [05:02] alisonken1hom2, no issues for me :/ [05:02] as long as you're present kernel sees sdX, no problem then [05:03] also, my cdrom is hda :) [05:03] the cdrom becomes /dev/sr* [05:03] even IDE one? [05:03] yup [05:03] however - it's the boot drive that lilo uses :; [05:03] i also have a USB cdrom, which was sr0 before [05:03] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [05:03] i mostly write my discs with the usb one [05:04] and this probably means that the usb cdrom will be sr1 [05:04] alisonken1noc, just install .32, boot it with root=/dev/sda1, then edit your fstab :) [05:04] slava_dp - I just noted it due to another (newbe) issue earlier :) [05:04] ok :) [05:04] I've been on sata for some time now [05:05] slava_dp, from your name, are you russian? [05:05] ukraine. [05:05] offtopic, ukraine is great :) [05:06] hehe, thanks [05:06] and the ladies there are awesome ;) [05:06] offtopic ofc [05:06] stfu you topic freaks [05:06] well i'd say that the ladies are still the best here in latvia [05:06] hersonls_ (n=hersonls@187.40.91.63) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:07] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:07] Nick change: j0z_ -> j0z [05:08] gutts (n=gutts@213.162.50.51) joined ##slackware. [05:08] yay to latvia [05:09] jeeze i better get some sleep before i try to think about this xrandr thing anymore [05:09] have a good night/day everyone [05:09] coldcog wat's the xrandr thing? [05:09] morn [05:11] its for multi monitor stuff [05:11] basically im trying to get dual screens not cloned [05:12] maby i can help [05:12] agentc0re: Received, thank you. [05:12] oh yeah? [05:13] i don't have a dual monitor setup, because my card doesn't support big enough virtual screen [05:13] good day, Zordrak [05:14] i see, mine works fine, but its cloned, and i have no need to see everything im doing twice, i want and extended monitor basically [05:14] but i have some stuff about it [05:14] zux: also used for cloned monitors [05:14] slava_dp: sup [05:14] (eg on your laptop screen, and on a projector) [05:14] i had it working in ubuntu before i got slackware [05:14] laptop or desktop? [05:14] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:14] laptop [05:14] my setup now is like this [05:15] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [05:15] i work on my laptops screen [05:15] if i'm at work, where the monitor is [05:15] I press Fn+F10 [05:16] and it switches to the external monitor [05:16] and the default max resolution [05:16] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:16] randr is a nice thing [05:16] if i press it again, it switches to the laptop monitor again [05:16] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.96.22.243) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:16] switches? like turns yours off and the other on? [05:16] yes [05:16] i want both of them on [05:17] i don't use both, becouse my intel card only supports a max of 2048x2048 virtual resolution [05:17] but that is also possible [05:17] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.92.103.135) joined ##slackware. [05:17] well how i had it in ubuntu it just like 1024x768 on both or something [05:18] and it works on here, but i only have the option for cloned [05:18] the external + laptop monitor would be 1280x1200 and the laptop would be 1024x768 [05:18] just a moment, i'll find the script that's doing it [05:18] yeah i dont remember exaclty, its 3 am haha [05:19] it's 12:18 AM here [05:19] cause before it was just like making 1 big monitor of of the 2, so i can scroll my mouse to the edge of the screen then off right onto the other monitor [05:19] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.40.1) joined ##slackware. [05:19] which is nice so i cant have things going on on the other monitor and different stuff going on here, makes my multitasking much easier, especially with the desktop effects :) [05:20] yeah i didnt sleep last night either though lol [05:20] does your laptop use the external monitor all the time, or fo you have to switch? [05:20] once i get started on a project i cant stop till its done [05:20] if i plug it in and go to my display setting and activate it, it just clones my display [05:20] if it uses it all the time, it's easier to just configure xorg [05:21] oh i have to switch [05:21] the my setup is like this [05:21] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.40.1) left irc: Client Quit [05:21] i have a acpi script [05:21] i cant use xorg cause thatll be static and it needs to be dynamic [05:21] root@tofiks:~# cat /etc/acpi/events/screen [05:21] event=video GFX0 00000080 00000000 [05:21] action=/etc/acpi/actions/screen toggle [05:22] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:22] i need to have on the fly removal, not need to restart xorg [05:22] i don't know why my laptop recognizes the Fn+F10 the way it does [05:22] yeah im curious what mine would do... [05:22] but that's just how it is [05:23] so this part calls the script, which actually switches the monitors with xrandr [05:23] i'll paste the script somwhere [05:23] ok [05:24] can i just send it to you [05:24] ? [05:24] sure [05:24] Necrosporus (n=Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [05:24] the script is not written by me [05:25] i found it somewhere on the web [05:26] it has some command line options [05:26] like toggle [05:26] which originally toggled all variations [05:26] it didnt work for some reason [05:27] but i edited it to only switch to either one, or the other monitor [05:27] http://pastebin.com/m63fbcd5f [05:27] ok, it's there [05:28] dlant (n=dlant@187.74.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:28] all right... [05:28] that script started life from here http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2 <-- xrandr website [05:29] yeah thats saying what i want it looks like [05:29] if you don't want all the button thing, you can just call the script with options from commandline [05:31] alicephilippa, I should have given that link at the start, but couldn't remember where i got it from [05:31] coldcog, maybe you should better use the script from there [05:31] i have edited mine and axactly remember what i edited [05:31] which one? [05:32] from the web site [05:32] alisonken1noc, pasted a link [05:33] oh wow i must be tired, i saw that link and didnt even notice it wasnt you who pasted it haha [05:33] you might end up with only part of the functionality offered by the script with mine version [05:33] ok yeah i was reading that link right now.. [05:34] there is lot's of usefull info there, i got my multi monitor setup working thanks to that site [05:34] also, i did some searching before i found it [05:34] awesome ill be srue to keep it in my bookmarks [05:35] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [05:35] im reading it and its what i need [05:35] sebi` (n=nil@unaffiliated/stuhlbein) joined ##slackware. [05:35] i got xrandr and all that, just need to figure out how to use it [05:35] but that sounds like a job for tomorrow [05:36] thanks everyone [05:36] ill give that a shot in the morning [05:37] by [05:37] coldcog (n=coldcog@c-98-202-121-136.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [05:37] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:39] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [05:39] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:40] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [05:47] Nipplesticks(!) I've just heard Mr. Hicks' accent for the first time.. that is some serious uber-accentage! [05:52] in slackware current [05:52] is there a ready 2.6.32.3 kernel? [05:53] if the changelog says it does then it does. [05:54] dios_mio (n=test@88.236.178.28) left irc: "Leaving" [05:54] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.73.22) joined ##slackware. [05:56] sebi` (n=nil@unaffiliated/stuhlbein) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [05:58] i can't find the package [05:58] How to make hard link on directory? I read man ln [05:59] linXea (n=slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [05:59] zux: its in a/ on any current mirror [06:00] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [06:00] Necrosporus: what are you trying to hardlink? typically hardlinks are only used to span drives [06:01] Necrosporus: you can't use hardlinks on directories. [06:01] softlinks or mount -o bind is an alternative. [06:02] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.48.80) joined ##slackware. [06:03] I know, but i'd like to create hardlink, not bind or soft link [06:04] again, hardlinks only span drives, not on the same partition [06:05] alicephilippa, may be vice versa? [06:05] You can create hardlinks on same filesystem only [06:05] sorry: "On all existing implementations, you cannot make a hard link to a [06:05] directory, and hard links cannot cross file system boundaries." [06:06] so, based on that info, if you want to link a directory, you can only make a soft link, or create the destination and use "mount -o bind" option [06:07] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:19b) joined ##slackware. [06:07] "info coreutils 'ln invocation' " does have a note about the --directory option for hardlinking, but notes that system restrictions may make it fail [06:07] Delahunt (n=robert@fe219-115.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [06:08] I know this [06:08] But I want to do it anyway [06:08] in that case, the only thing I can think of is find an ls utility that will overcome system restricitons or patch your system in the appropriate places that would allow it [06:08] ln utility rather [06:09] if you're using slackware, the system setup is whatever the upstream sources allow [06:13] StevenR_ (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:13] StevenR (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:13] guax (n=guax@189.4.99.110) joined ##slackware. [06:13] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-136-164.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:16] cricket[b] (i=cricket@ip98-164-87-153.no.no.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [06:17] alicephilippa, I suppose, it's restricted in kernel [06:18] actually, it's "alisonken1noc" :) [06:19] Heh [06:19] Tab autocompletion %) [06:19] yep [06:19] alisonken1noc [06:30] Patero-ng (n=dragon@174-23-33-43.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [06:30] hello people [06:31] I have trouble mounting a device connected to sata tousb [06:31] ? [06:31] I have to -su but then I can't access under my user id [06:31] to sata to usb? [06:31] yes is a connector the HD is a case that doens't have a motherbord and I want to connect it to a laptop [06:32] but konqueror says I can't access it [06:32] you mean an enclosure? [06:32] the HD is for internal use but I have its sata to usb cable and external power source to acces it [06:33] even though my laptop only has usb 1 it can access it but under root only but Ive like to access it while I'm logged as user [06:34] hmm [06:34] modprobe enclosure [06:35] other thing is when I access it some files appear as their realname but with a ? in front [06:35] and can't access those folders nor files why can this be [06:36] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-7-251.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:37] Fibre (n=Fibre@60.51.113.215) joined ##slackware. [06:37] welcome back fredoslack [06:37] hi alisonken1hom2 [06:38] must be tab-completion-fail this morning :) [06:38] at least the main part of the name is correct [06:39] I had a issue I resolved [06:39] I coudn't access the sound controls thur the mixer so I realized I need to add my account to the audio group tha'ts 1 [06:39] but I can't figure what to do to access fs. mounted by the root [06:40] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-7-251.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [06:44] hmm some files with a "?" in the front? reminds me of old-school norton undelete [06:44] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-7-251.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:44] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.100.107) left irc: "Leaving" [06:45] I'm sure those files are fine if I access them trhu windows.. this happens on the fat32 ide and the ntsc sata1 drive [06:47] Action: Delahunt shrugs [06:47] i don't know how to fix this problem, but i sure wish i did [06:48] free_fox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:48] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [06:50] Patero-ng, [06:50] how do you mount those filesystems under linux? [06:51] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-7-251.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:51] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-7-251.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:51] mount /dev [06:51] I have to use su first [06:52] but on konqueror shows is mounted but I can't access it [06:52] /dev/ is your device directory - why are you trying to mount that? [06:52] the whole command is /dev/sda1 [06:53] is not ext2 just ntsc [06:53] is sda1 your root directory or just a thumbdrive or something? [06:53] ntsc? last I heard that was a tv video standard. the only nt filesystems I know of would be ntfs [06:55] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [06:55] is a sata connected to a sata to usb port [06:55] and last I checked, ntfs filesystems are default to ro due to experimental nature [06:55] have you not ntfs-3g? :) [06:55] ok but i don't to write to it just extract some songs [06:57] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [06:58] I also have another issue some wierdness with my cardbus usb2.0 [06:58] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-7-251.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [06:59] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:59] last time I inserted it it worked fine to access the HD but after I turn off I tried again but it conflicted with my network pcmcia card that I coudn't access the network [06:59] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-igomspyhjqvlzwvv) joined ##slackware. [06:59] Action: slava_dp 's solution of the day is to swap a kernel 8-) [07:00] yamabushi (i=yamabush@detached.ircii.de) left ##slackware. [07:03] so first thing is [07:03] you should mount that partition like this [07:03] mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /somewhere [07:04] the second thing is [07:04] where /somewhere is a valid directory that's NOT part of your system directories [07:04] the /mnt [07:04] alreadygone (i=1000@59.103.212.118) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:04] fat32 and ntfs do not support filesystem permisions like the linux filesystems [07:05] that's true I forgot they have their uniqnss [07:05] so you need to create those permisions while mounting [07:05] there where some options that i cannot remember at the moment [07:05] anyway, if you mount those filesystems as root [07:05] only'rot has write access [07:06] root [07:06] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:06] obey your master got it [07:06] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) joined ##slackware. [07:07] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [07:07] mario (n=mario@213.147.122.31) joined ##slackware. [07:07] Mount options for fat [07:07] umask=value [07:07] Set the umask (the bitmask of the permissions that are not [07:07] Channel flood from zux -- kicking [07:07] present). The default is the umask of the current process. The [07:07] value is given in octal. [07:07] zux kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [07:07] Necrosporus (n=Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [07:07] zux (n=zux@80.232.209.242) joined ##slackware. [07:07] zux (n=zux@80.232.209.242) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [07:07] zux (n=zux@80.232.209.242) joined ##slackware. [07:08] someone forgot slackboy is listening :) [07:08] jep [07:08] :( [07:08] Nick change: neogooglian -> lechiffre [07:09] but an easier way [07:09] would be using some of the mount managers or stuff [07:09] i don't realy know how, but xfce mounts everything for me with the right permisions :) [07:10] I like terminals is faster once I learn [07:10] slack doens't have apt does it [07:11] terminals are of course great [07:11] no [07:11] but my wife also uses the computer.... [07:11] I find not having apt is better due to newbs isntall much stuff the need [07:11] slackware has slackware package managers, slackpkg, and 3rd party sbopkg for slackbuilds [07:11] while on slack since most of nstalling is manuel you get more control and less junk [07:11] zux, desktops mount via hal [07:12] are those applications obtained from the cd or the internet [07:12] jeah, but it's not hal that's doing the actual mounting right? [07:12] it is hal helpers that do it. [07:13] ok, so it's one of those that do it for me [07:13] i remember installing some thunar add-on in some earlier slackware releases [07:13] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [07:13] but as i look, it's not installed on my pc now [07:14] so i don't know who is doing the mounting :) [07:14] hal is a bitch since it does not support specifying charsets for vfat. i've got to specify them during kernel compile directly. [07:15] otherwise all usb storage which has cyrillic files looks like ???????? [07:16] is that why I can't find some folders accesable [07:16] russian windose stores files as koi8-u on vfat. why, oh why? [07:16] Patero-ng, mount -t vfat -o iocharset=koi8-u,codepage=866 /what /where [07:16] that's the manual method, but hal does not support it. [07:17] slava_dp, and there probably is no way to have russian and some other, say latvian support at the same time, right? [07:17] aryr100 (n=aryr100@cpe-67-248-212-47.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:17] zux, correct. [07:17] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:18] great thing I allways store files without the latvian special characters [07:18] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [07:18] but to tell that to the windows users.... [07:21] slava_dp, is there something speciffic about patrick's new 2.6.32.3 kernel, or can i just install and use that one? [07:21] zux: what version of slackware are you running now? [07:21] 13 [07:21] how to find out [07:22] kernel+modules should be ok since gcc hasn't been changed yet [07:22] i don't want to upgrade to current, but i want the new kernel :) [07:22] and i'm very lazy on rebooting [07:23] am having a issue [07:24] is there a reason why when I conect my sata it doesn't detec itt anymore? [07:25] Mefached (n=jonathan@c-75-64-148-127.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:26] john_dee (n=id@95-29-15-252.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [07:27] what does dmesg say? [07:27] maybe my konquerorcant' see the drive [07:27] how to use dmsg? [07:27] type "dmsg" and browse the output [07:27] it's a copy of the kernel message ring [07:27] Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 8 [07:28] you probably want to look near the end [07:28] well that's the reason right there :) [07:28] device not accepting address 34, error -71 [07:28] advice me please [07:28] I did e2fsk a while back [07:28] like yesterday but how find out this problem [07:29] i have no idea what that means, but might be a problem with the disk, or the controller [07:29] brb [07:30] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [07:32] check the cables first [07:34] Dominian: ping when you get in [07:36] zux, you can install Pat's kernel, or you can reuse the config and build one that is _optimized_ :) [07:36] i mean, at least change the cpu arch, it'll give a boost. [07:36] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [07:36] MAssEy (i=1000@90.149.76.181) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:37] not necessarily - the boost typically comes from multiple places, not just the arch [07:37] like? [07:38] Hello Everyone :) [07:38] I'm just saying that just changing the arch for a kernel build will boost your setup [07:38] not - rather [07:38] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.1) joined ##slackware. [07:41] Patero-ng (n=dragon@174-23-33-43.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [07:41] dErFz (n=derf@unaffiliated/derfz) left irc: Excess Flood [07:41] main (n=main@41.252.35.85) joined ##slackware. [07:41] dErFz (n=derf@pwnflakes.lobbyzffs.com) joined ##slackware. [07:42]
hello slackware user and developer [07:42]
i am wanyce from libya [07:43] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:45] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:45] Action: Delahunt <.< >.> [07:45] hello main wanyce from libya [07:47]
i 've problem not solved even now [07:47]
it's apache how to make it us mod_perl [07:48]
info i use slackware 13.0 [07:48] for that info, you need to go to the apache webpage and make sure mod_perl is also installed [07:49] there is a config directive to add mod_perl for apache [07:49] usually you just uncomment it in httpd.conf [07:49] /etc/httpd/httpd.conf [07:50]
ok [07:50] and you have to add perl file types to be processed by perl too. see mod_php.conf as an example. [07:50] vhargon (n=geno@125-237-37-74.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:50] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:50]
ok like php [07:51] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:51]
so this mean i need per_mysql and etc stuff like php [07:54] damn.... [07:54] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/network/mod_perl/ [07:54] here, use this. [07:54] Action: slava_dp thought mod_perl was included in slackware o_o [07:54] main, ^ [07:54] and get http://sbopkg.org :) [07:55]
so i will be try this [07:55] pprkut, has done it all for you ;) [07:56] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [07:58]
thank you [07:58]
slava_dp [07:59]
another question the ubuntu users have usplash ok so what slackware have like usplash [08:01] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:01] what is usplash? [08:01] what is usplash? [08:01] dang - you beat me to it [08:01] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:01] :) [08:02] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [08:02] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:02]
usplash is user space for boot screan [08:02] hmm, that must be a kernel thing then, right? [08:03]
mean i can put my own picture on boot [08:03] where is it shown? from the start, or is it shown after the kernel has booted? [08:04] Delahunt (n=robert@fe219-115.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [08:04]
after kernel loaded [08:04]
and ended before the gdm or kdm or anything else [08:05] is that a grub feature perhaps ? [08:05]
no [08:05] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [08:05] well then, i don't know if there is any for slackware [08:05] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:05] there is nothing like that in slackware itself [08:05] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [08:05] you can check out framebuffer settings [08:06]
when you system booting you seen the terminal stuff in screen [08:06] but honestly, i don't think slack users care much about those kinds of thrills [08:06] er frills [08:06]
yes [08:06]
me to [08:06] either or :) [08:06]
but i wondering about that [08:06] hehe [08:06] ahh, realy the usplash seems to be a ubuntu thingy [08:07] but there is bootsplash [08:07]
ok [08:07] i use framebuffer but no splashscreen on boot [08:07]
so bootsplash is program we can use in slackware [08:07] also, that is a kernel feature and if i got it right, you ned to recompile the kernel to change the picture [08:07] no, its not exactly a splash screen but you can change the image of tux that appears [08:08]
no [08:08]
yes i know this [08:08]
do you see redhat booting before [08:08] compile bootsplash and see if it runs [08:08] nope [08:09]
i mean i will build something like that [08:09] redhat uses grub to boot [08:09] maybe it has something you can change [08:09]
yes and lilo [08:11] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Connection reset by peer [08:11] i found this stuff [08:11] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splashy [08:12] only i think it doesn't support slackware out of the box [08:12] but you might get it to work [08:12] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:13] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-7-255.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [08:13] hi there [08:13]
i have good experience with slackware but this is last thing i thinking about it [08:13] hallo metrofox [08:14] hallo haldir :) [08:14] hmm [08:14] http://splashy.alioth.debian.org/wiki/slackware [08:15] alienBOB, here you go :> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=222373 [08:15] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:16] Fibre (n=Fibre@60.51.113.215) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:18] i think i'll try the splashy thing.... [08:19] if i install a slackware kernel package, it only drops the files in boot, like vmlinuz-2.6.32.3 right? [08:19] alisonken1noc: pong I'm in [08:20] although you may want to 'tar -tzf kernel.....' first and make sure [08:20] but it doesn't overwrite the link vmlinuz? [08:20] Dominian: you may want to log into slackware.dreamhost.com and have a look at /home2/rsync-slack.sh [08:21] I've got it where the dvd doesn't get rebuilt unless there's an update to the rsync [08:21] ohhh nice [08:21] alisonken1noc, -tzf seems to not work with the *.txz packages :( [08:22] xz -d ./*txz [08:22] because 'z' is for .tgz and .txz is something else - just try 'tar -tf ...' [08:22] sorry - old-old-old habit with the -z [08:22] yeah, it doesn't overwrite the links... [08:23] read the script [08:23] since it's a link - you have to check the install/doinst.sh script [08:23] no links are stored in the tarball - they're converted to commands in the doinst.sh script [08:23] ok [08:23] thanks, i'll have a look [08:24] however - I just upgraded to the 2.6.32.3 kernel package and it looks like /boot/vmlinuz is changed [08:24] damn [08:24] that's why I use lilo and spell out the kernel/initrd's to use specifically in lilo.conf [08:24] ( cd boot ; rm -rf vmlinuz ) [08:24] ( cd boot ; ln -sf vmlinuz-generic-smp-2.6.32.3-smp vmlinuz ) [08:24] i just copy over arch/blah/bzImage [08:25] i usually have at least two kernels [08:25] I wouldn't - not if you want to keep the package system normal [08:25] it does not hurt a thing [08:25] depends on your definition of 'hurt' [08:26] i been doing it that way for years without a problem [08:26] besides, ther is no bzimage in the /boot directory, all kernels are specifically named files [08:26] CRS-Finance (n=thomark@90.154.216.35) joined ##slackware. [08:27] EuroTrash (n=rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:27] if you use the kernel packages [08:27] i dont make a kernel package, just copy over bzImage and run make modules_install, and i run with sissors too [08:27] lol [08:28] config System.map boot.0800 bzImage map [08:28] sounds like a custom kernel to me [08:28] that is all i have in /boot [08:28] TheGroove (i=default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:29] to kernel compiling gurus [08:29] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [08:30] other than doing the kernel that way, everything else i make slackware packages when it comes to adding my own packages, otherwise it really would be a nightmare to manage [08:30] what otions should i enable/disable to optimize the kernel, when compiling? [08:30] zux: depends on your setup [08:30] i selected core 2 as processor family [08:31] my setup is a laptop [08:31] used for almost everything [08:33] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p54B1395D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:34] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p54B1395D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [08:35] zux: that question is so broad. although there is a cople of places that hav e to do specifically with performance. [08:36] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.73.22) left irc: Connection timed out [08:37] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.103.222) joined ##slackware. [08:39] GooseYArd (n=bailey9@topquark.roadkill.com) joined ##slackware. [08:40] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [08:42] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p54B1395D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:43] puff puff [08:44] does compiling the modules that i always need into the kernel, not as modules improve performance? [08:44] other than performance you can always make your kernel as small as possible by trimming it lean [08:45] I would say the opposite [08:45] but i can barely think yet , hmm loading a module -vs- built-in(monolithic) [08:46] built-in v. modules is pretty much just so you don't have to modprobe or make an inintrd [08:46] filesystem and sata disk support i build in to the kernel image so i dont need an initrd, everything else i build as modules, [08:47] if it only improves booting, then i don't need it [08:47] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [08:47] the less energy needed to boot sounds like a big plus for a laptop [08:48] lechiffre (n=neogoogl@59.92.103.135) left irc: "Leaving" [08:49] i try to leave it on all the time [08:49] and suspend when needed [08:49] http://packages.debian.org/lenny/anarchism [08:49] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.103.135) joined ##slackware. [08:50] aryr100 (n=aryr100@cpe-67-248-212-47.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:50] An Anarchist is called a "libertarian socialist" in the US? [08:51] meh, nevermind im drunk [08:51] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.103.135) left irc: Client Quit [08:52] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl6-211-17.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:52] matu (n=matu@client80-83-41-117.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:52] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.103.135) joined ##slackware. [08:53] main (n=main@41.252.35.85) left irc: "Leaving" [08:55] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-191-28-135.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:55] does the compilation process know about dualcore? [08:55] as far as? [08:55] seems like compiling only uses one core [08:56] how many cores you got? [08:56] you can give it the -j 4 option and see what happens [08:56] a have 2 [08:56] zux: export MAKEFLAGS="-j7" [08:56] or that :) [08:56] would compilation be faster that way? [08:57] yes [08:57] assuming your Makefile rules can run in parallel [08:57] which is a good assumption :> [08:58] i read a joke somwhere: Why do I need dualcore? So that your VISTA can slow down your system on one core, while you watch movies on the other [08:59] thrice yeah if it can't its a good excuse to fire your gnu make guy :) [09:01] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [09:03] x-ip (n=sakura-s@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [09:04] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-136-164.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:04] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [09:05] jg71_ (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:09] fatalnix (n=Fatalnix@spirit.ggxmain.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:09] fatalnix (n=Fatalnix@spirit.ggxmain.com) joined ##slackware. [09:11] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:11] jg71 (n=edud@76.74.129.199) joined ##slackware. [09:11] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-igomspyhjqvlzwvv) left irc: [09:11] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [09:13] sirslack1r (n=sirslack@p54B1395D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:14] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [09:14] hwk (n=hwk@CPE-121-214-172-211.lnse3.lon.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:14] i2c_core: exports duplicate symbol i2c_smbus_xfer (owned by kernel) <-- Can anyone tell me what this message means/pertains to? [09:15] linXea-Desktop (n=slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:15] ml4711 (n=morten@0x50a69862.rdnxx1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:16] KDE 4 is odd. [09:16] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:17] that's what the wife says about me [09:17] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl7-78-89.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:18] Maybe she's right? [09:18] a distinct possibility :) [09:18] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-212-169.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:18] I'm really not used to this eeepc keyboard [09:19] and annoyingly enough. KDE can't find my network adapters. [09:19] master (n=master@77.29.168.29) joined ##slackware. [09:19] any idea why that might be anybody? [09:19] linXea (n=slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:19] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [09:19] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:20] kde doesn't really have anything to do with network adapters - that's more of a kernel thing. which chipset? [09:20] well it must be the why it detects them then. because Wpa supplicant started the connection fine [09:20] way* [09:21] the kernel detects it fine. [09:21] when I go into KDE's network configuration utility it says it can't parse the XML. [09:22] I don't know which XML and where, but I would like it to detect. [09:23] ar5000 [09:23] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: "Fui embora" [09:25] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:25] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p54B1395D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:25] any ideas thrice? [09:25] use wicd [09:25] kozandr (n=kozandr@213.79.108.39) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:26] pprkut, can't seem to find it [09:26] Linux-IRC (n=Linux-IR@unaffiliated/easy) joined ##slackware. [09:27] is in /extra on your install dvd [09:28] alright [09:28] Kaapa__ (n=Somethin@bl5-181-184.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:29] kozandr (n=kozandr@213.79.108.39) joined ##slackware. [09:30] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-211-17.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:30] Nick change: Kaapa__ -> Kaapa [09:32] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-141.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:33] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:33] Ok, how does this compression system work. [09:34] vehn_z1 (n=vehn_z@62.133.182.189) joined ##slackware. [09:34] I've never used dolphin before. [09:35] if you download the wicd package, you use the package manager to install (installpkg, here) [09:36] wertik_rus (n=wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [09:37] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:19b) left irc: Nick collision from services. [09:37] ricardo (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:19b) joined ##slackware. [09:38] hwk tell us what ifconfig -a command output is showing [09:39] Kaapa__ (n=Somethin@bl9-250-148.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:39] ricardo (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:19b) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:39] wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:22:43:05:d6:62 inet addr:10.0.0.10 Bcast:10.0.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::222:43ff:fe05:d662/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:985 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:229 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:100733 (98.3 KiB) TX bytes:20014 (19.5 KiB) [09:39] Jiraia_ (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:19b) joined ##slackware. [09:39] all the stuff it should be doing I believe [09:39] yes [09:40] u are trying to use wpa_gui? [09:40] The network adapters simply aren't appearing in KDE [09:40] I want to be able to configure them through KDE. [09:40] Nick change: Jiraia_ -> jiraia [09:40] morning geeks [09:40] changing my wpa_supplicant.conf every time I want to connect to an AP is inconvinient [09:40] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl7-78-89.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:41] Gday dtanner [09:41] Linux-IR1 (n=Linux-IR@113.11.36.65) joined ##slackware. [09:41] thrice`: nice :-) [09:41] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.103.222) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:41] hwk , just use those tools, i cant remember the package , oh yeah WICD [09:42] hello alienBOB [09:42] hwk [09:42] http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/slackware/slackware-13.0/extra/wicd/ [09:42] install it [09:42] dtanner ~~~~ [09:42] wertik_rus (n=wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: "Leaving" [09:42] stunix (i=1000@85.19.141.138) left irc: Nick collision from services. [09:42] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.53.234) joined ##slackware. [09:42] stunix (i=1000@85.19.141.138) joined ##slackware. [09:42] puff puff [09:42] I've got it on my SD card [09:42] hwk: wicd is a nice littel gui similar to windows network manager thingy so you can just click on the AP you want (or make it auto connect to specific ones) to use [09:42] a little toned down Black Cherry this morning with my coffee [09:43] I just can't work out this package system [09:43] I usually installed from source [09:43] see ya [09:43] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-7-255.33-151.iol.it) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.0"). [09:43] u must configure dhcpd or dhclient to be able to connect with wicd [09:44] CRS-Finance, alright, I [09:44] 'll remember that, first I need to get it installed. [09:44] EuroTrash (i=default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:44] hwk: installpkg package name.. All a slackware package is really just a compressed version of the compiled/installed package.. think make install DESTDIR=/tmp/package.. tar -cvvf packagename.txz (or .tgz or whatever) /tmp/package [09:44] Hoogin (n=hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [09:45] hwk: what do you mean you can't get around the package system? [09:46] hwk: very simple , first look in 'man pkgtools' also 'cd /var/log/packages' to list all the packages installed on your system , or just type 'pkgtool' [09:46] Wescotte, a bit more than that (think symlinks and such) [09:46] thrice`: true.. but that's the jist of it.. [09:46] hello thrice` [09:46] yamabushi (i=yamabush@detached.ircii.de) joined ##slackware. [09:47] hi dtanner [09:48] Wescotte, alright thanks. [09:48] vehn_z1 (n=vehn_z@62.133.182.189) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:48] I think I've got it now. [09:49] can't you chroot and install to that to contain all the symlinks etc [09:50] alright. I'm trying to run installpkg from terminal, but it says its not there, I [09:50] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl5-181-184.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:50] Nick change: Kaapa__ -> Kaapa [09:50] su first [09:50] 've put the name in right and I'm in the dir its in. [09:50] already have Scuzz [09:50] you need to be root to install packages [09:50] hwk, "installpkg wicd-blahblah.txz" [09:50] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:50] I did that [09:51] just says it doesn't exist [09:51] hwk, instead of installpkg type ls [09:51] >.< [09:51] vehn_z1 (n=vehn_z@62.133.182.189) joined ##slackware. [09:51] ok, pastebin the following [09:51] check for typos [09:51] "ls" , "installpkg wicd*.txz" [09:51] point it tothe directory that the wicd-blahblah.txz is in [09:51] .....thats odd. [09:51] it was in there. now its not. [09:51] mmhmm [09:51] magic [09:51] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [09:52] must've done something to move it without realizing. [09:52] CRS-Finance (n=thomark@90.154.216.35) left irc: "Good luck and Good Trading!" [09:52] which leaves me with a problem. where the heck did it go? [09:52] yeah, maybe rm -rf [09:52] zux, thats not very nice. [09:52] updatedb && locate wicd*.txz [09:52] first, double check where did you downloaded it [09:52] hwk, really, only you know that :> [09:53] find ~ -iname "*wicd*" might show you [09:53] then double check where are you [09:53] or, find /home -iname "*wicd*" is probably better [09:53] /topic ##slackware, the other #wicd channel. [09:53] lmao2k (n=nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:53] Action: spook snickers at the in-joke [09:53] how does installing a slackware package have anything to do with wicd? [09:54] Linux-IRC (n=Linux-IR@unaffiliated/easy) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:54] he wants to install wicd [09:54] i bet slack users disproportionately represent wicd users [09:54] thrice`: just ruin my joke why dont you [09:55] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-cdoykyoyvjcvxbjr) joined ##slackware. [09:55] yamabushi (i=yamabush@detached.ircii.de) left ##slackware. [09:55] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [09:56] well. thats inconvieniant [09:56] My web browsers aren't working. [09:56] well thanks for the help guys [09:56] seems you've got some biger problems... [09:57] mancha: I use wicd on 1 of 3 of my slack machines :) [09:57] I have to go, I'll try and have it working by the time I log back on. [09:57] Wescotte, 3 out of 4 dentists recommend wicd [09:57] zux, it does. [09:57] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl11-2-48.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:57] hwk (n=hwk@CPE-121-214-172-211.lnse3.lon.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [09:57] mancha: and 0 of 4 dentists use linux [09:57] 57.8% of statistics are made up [09:58] mancha: I bet that's accurate :) [09:59] slackguru (n=trimmer@63-228-163-170.cdrr.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:01] ljubak (n=ljubak@cable-94-189-151-37.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [10:01] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [10:03] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:03] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: "Leaving" [10:04] hi, anyone here installed the KDE 4.3.90 packages from alienBOB on a pure slack13 installation (i.e., no current) [10:04] 4.3.90! wow i've fallen behind a bit [10:05] xMDKx, did you not see the readme, which says "this will not work on slackware 13" ? [10:06] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@corp-190-12-31-106-cue.puntonet.ec) joined ##slackware. [10:06] thrice`: yes, i read, but want a second opinion [10:07] ok, 'don't do it' [10:07] Dumbix (n=ence@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:07] so, slapt-get is the best way to upgrade my system? [10:07] No [10:07] Linux-IR1 (n=Linux-IR@113.11.36.65) left irc: Client Quit [10:07] you think a tool not included with slackware is the best way to update your system? [10:07] xMDKx: use slackpkg [10:08] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl9-250-148.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:08] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [10:08] no, I never upgrade my system using some tool, only slackpkg [10:08] hitest: gotcha ;) [10:08] vehn_z1 (n=vehn_z@62.133.182.189) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:08] slackpkg is supported [10:09] thrice`: but I want to try the latest KDE... but I'll get it from the svn [10:09] xMDKx: then upgrade to current [10:09] The-Croupier (n=The-Crou@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [10:09] xMDKx: run -current then [10:10] xMDKx, you think slapt-get will give you kde from svn? [10:10] hitest: it connect to some repository and get the needed packages to upgrade the system? [10:10] and you will have to make your own packages using aliens source unless your running 64 bit [10:10] thrice`: no, svn co will do [10:10] did someone from here know what is application/x-director [10:10] Scuzz: i'm on a 64 envionment :) [10:10] environment [10:11] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [10:11] hitest: "slackpkg -current" will do it for me? great [10:11] xMDKx: there are -current mirrors for slackpkg. [10:11] read the how to for slackpkg [10:12] slackguru (n=trimmer@71-213-235-63.cdrr.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [10:12] looks like a mimne type [10:12] hitest: good, I'll read, thanks [10:12] thanks for all [10:12] a have a strange error [10:12] *mime [10:12] on make modules_install [10:12] WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.32.3-smp/kernel/fs/ext2/ext2.ko needs unknown symbol mb_cache_create [10:12] xMDKx: yw:) [10:13] that's just one of them [10:13] forget the warnings [10:13] ok [10:13] esteeven (n=esteeven@82-32-107-213.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:14] Dumbix (n=ence@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [10:15] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl11-117-161.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:15] another question [10:15] a have a initrd [10:16] and don't remember wich modules did i include in it [10:16] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-2-48.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:16] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [10:16] how can i find out? [10:16] Goliath (n=goliath@unaffiliated/goliath) joined ##slackware. [10:16] hello [10:17] how can i decrypt somethin with the FISH cipher? [10:17] FISH? heh [10:17] you mean blowfish? [10:17] with a hook? [10:17] :P [10:17] Action: Mp3 leaves [10:17] :) [10:18] zux, you can extract the initrd with something like: "gunzip -cd initrd.gz | cpio -i -d -H newc --no-absolute-filenames [10:18] or you can mount it [10:19] oh, FISH as in the WW2 cipher? the hell are you breaking, old British codes about U-boat deployment? [10:20] Goliath, lol, man. ww2 is over. what trench you got out of? %) [10:20] john_dee: its for my studies [10:20] Google it? [10:20] How the hell would we know? [10:20] j/k :) [10:20] cant find a linux one [10:20] thrice`, it only gave me this: 3520 blocks [10:21] Nick change: alisonken1hom2 -> alisonken1home [10:21] zux, it didn't extract? [10:21] oh [10:21] geus it did :) [10:22] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@corp-190-12-31-106-cue.puntonet.ec) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:22] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@corp-190-12-31-106-cue.puntonet.ec) joined ##slackware. [10:22] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Client Quit [10:24] Ech (n=Me@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [10:25] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:25] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) joined ##slackware. [10:26] Nick change: Ech -> ech [10:26] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) left irc: Client Quit [10:26] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: "Leaving" [10:27] twofish and blowfish are cyphers than can be installed in the kernel [10:27] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.147.57) joined ##slackware. [10:27] Goliath: ^^^^ [10:27] s/installed/compiled/ [10:27] fish is something else though, it was some nazi code from ww2 [10:28] i also thought blowfish (at first) [10:28] ah [10:28] ok - what the heck is eating all my ram and swap? and I have a 4G swap partition [10:29] i am talking about this [10:29] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FISH_(cipher) [10:29] are twofish and blowfish the same? [10:30] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]" [10:30] similar - not the same [10:31] zux (n=zux@80.232.209.242) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:31] i have a string of numbers [10:31] using fish [10:31] can i decrypt it with blowfish or twofish? [10:31] alisonken1home: Firefox? heh [10:31] no - huludesktop on pause when the wife left [10:31] Ask in #crypto [10:34] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [10:35] _theradar (i=yamabush@detached.ircii.de) joined ##slackware. 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[10:49] atiissue-again (n=dartmout@pool-72-65-98-68.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:50] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) joined ##slackware. [10:51] syg igh [10:52] Patero-ng (n=dragon@174-23-33-43.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [10:52] hello I found out my problem was [10:52] regarding files appearing with ? or getting drive disconnection [10:52] and what was that? [10:52] I was using a usb extension and somehow the signal gets lust [10:53] Give it some porn then [10:53] am a chrsitiam [10:53] So? [10:53] nothing worse than a lusty signal [10:53] If it has lust, let it beat it out [10:53] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) left ##slackware. [10:53] soI had to get my laptop rly close to my drive [10:54] I looked like a nerd :/ [10:54] straterra: lol [10:55] I have other question [10:56] notKlaatu (n=sxe@office.vivisimo.com) joined ##slackware. [10:57] anybody got any idea why i'd be having trouble connecting to secured WEP on slack13 ? trying it with both atheros and broadcom cards that are confirmed to connect to unsecured networks. [10:57] is a lusty cable a cardinal sin? [10:57] to get my pcmcia card detecto I have to load without pcmcias and then insert network pcmcia then connect my usb cable to the usb1port then push my pcmciausb2.0 card [10:57] else my usb2.0card no work gets a irq 11 conflict [10:58] ech (n=Me@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: "Use the source, guy" [10:58] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [10:59] so can I load my linux with the card detected fine [10:59] notKlaatu, sounds configuration related [10:59] thrice`: yes i'm sure it is. [11:00] notKlaatu, ok :) tried using wicd or so temprarily? [11:00] thrice`: should i be looking at rc.wireless.conf then? [11:00] thrice`: yeah wicd is what i tried first, then iwcofig + dhclient [11:00] no luck [11:00] rc.wireless.conf should be killed :) rc.inet1.conf can do everything [11:00] Linux-IRC (n=Linux-IR@unaffiliated/easy) joined ##slackware. [11:00] but, you can try by hand first. [11:00] Weird0ne (n=julianm@endeavor.jdrush.net) joined ##slackware. [11:00] ech (n=Me@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [11:00] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-117-161.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:01] well i did try iwconfig wlan0 essid foobar key 0123456789 [11:01] then dhclient wlan0 [11:01] tried dhcpcd wlan0 instead? [11:01] yeah, tried it [11:01] my fedora eee connects fine. [11:01] so something is definitely up with my noobish configuration, im sure. just wasnt sure where to look i guess. [11:01] telperion (n=Adium@190.156.15.83) joined ##slackware. [11:02] and /sbin/ifconfig -a shows that wlan0 is the correct interface? [11:02] telperion (n=Adium@190.156.15.83) left ##slackware. [11:02] so guys [11:02] how can I avoid the irq 11 issue [11:02] thrice`: i will check that. [11:03] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:03] well wait, yes it is because it is wht i use to connect to my unsecrured network at home [11:03] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [11:04] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-119-81.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:04] pthreat (i=c8319e97@gateway/web/freenode/x-oofyrkcjmewbyeuf) joined ##slackware. [11:04] o/ [11:04] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: "Leaving" [11:05] dartmouth (n=dartmout@pool-72-65-98-68.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [11:05] notKlaatu, hm, strange. I'm not great with wep, but does "iwconfig wlan0" suggest you're connected to the correct ssid? [11:05] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:05] does acpid start on boot before or after hald? [11:06] thrice`: yes, looks like i'm on the right essid via iwconfig [11:06] pirving (n=jd@pool-72-73-95-74.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [11:06] before [11:07] thrice`: this is a network at work, so it's a blackbox to me. coud they be giving me the WEP key in a format that i should be converting or somthing? [11:07] i haven't used WEP in a looong time. [11:07] ditto :> [11:08] it's an internet company, too...i'm kinda surprised they're using wep.... [11:08] Maybe they use older devices [11:08] maybe they should have upgraded years ago? [11:08] I thought something like: iwconfig wlan0 essid ; iwconfig wlan0 key ; dhcpcd wlan0 would be fine [11:09] yeah that's what i would have thought. [11:09] Some things aren't availalbe as an upgrade [11:09] upgraded their hardware rather [11:09] Again..there aren't always upgrades [11:10] notKlaatu, wicd finds the network and fails ? maybe it is the key, then [11:10] the key format depends on the wep key length [11:10] yeah, wicd finds it. i set properties...it connects to network, gets no ip address. [11:10] the access point might need rebooting [11:10] mancha: it's a 10 digits: 4a3d5076f2 [11:10] and are you sure you're not klaatu? [11:11] Skywise: nickserv confirms that i am indeed not klaatu [11:11] :p [11:11] hmm [11:11] do you kjow what you have? wep40? wep104 etc [11:11] Axius (n=oijhif@92.84.23.52) joined ##slackware. [11:11] do you know of anything else connected thru that wap? [11:11] mancha: no, i don't. i can talk to the admin guy later over lunch maybe [11:12] then it is 40-bit wep [11:12] Skywise: this fedora eeePC is connected to it right now. [11:12] i'd make sure that it was working for others first [11:12] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:12] your format should be: xxxx-xxxx-xx for iwconfig [11:12] ok [11:12] my toshiba atheros and lenovo broadcom, no luck. [11:12] mancha: ah ok [11:12] let me try that [11:14] iwconfig $IFACE essid "$SSID" key xxxx-xxxx-xx (etc...) [11:14] you can add in more things like the bssid and the channel if you want [11:14] comp_ (n=comp_@81.196.151.9) left irc: "Leaving." [11:14] mancha: no luck. No DHCPOFFERS received with dhclient [11:15] trying dhcpcd right now [11:15] does iwconfig show you're connected though? [11:15] yes [11:15] s/connecgted/associated [11:15] no i'm sorry -- no [11:15] it does not. [11:15] i thought it had shown associated before.. [11:15] then you didn't connect [11:15] yeah [11:15] try t again [11:16] ok [11:16] i would add "ap xx:yy:zz:..." where xx:yy:zz is the MAC (or bssid) of the AP [11:17] ok i'll try that [11:18] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-212-169.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:19] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-149-233.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:20] Goliath (n=goliath@unaffiliated/goliath) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:21] that doesnt help either [11:21] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.103.135) left irc: Operation timed out [11:21] are you sure that the ap doesn't have restrictions such as mac-based access? [11:22] i am sure because my nokia n800 and my fedora eeePC connect [11:22] so it's my slackware configuration. [11:22] the error is certainly mine. [11:22] toytoy (n=dindin@112.202.49.93) joined ##slackware. [11:23] dErFz (n=derf@pwnflakes.lobbyzffs.com) left irc: Client Quit [11:23] the card is live right? i.e. iwlist $IFACE scan gives you sugar? [11:23] lots of sugar [11:23] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:23] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.103.135) joined ##slackware. [11:24] you know, my eeePC and nokia are 32bit... both my slackware laptops are 64. that couldnt have naything to do iwth it right? [11:24] are you sure you are entering the right key? 10 digit hex spearated by dashes right? [11:24] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl6-211-188.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:24] mancha: yeah, i'm checking and double checking. i'm manually entering it into fedora as well. [11:24] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-119-81.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:24] notKlaatu: low signal quality? [11:24] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [11:25] ah ok, and the same iwconfig line works on fedora? [11:25] yeah, it does. [11:25] right, then something is fucked on your slackware... [11:25] or too high signal strength - I've run across that as well [11:25] yeah. [11:26] alisonken1home: can i fix that or is that somethign the router is inflicting upon me? [11:26] you can specify a lower power setting, but you may have to do that manually [11:26] have you looked at your syslog or increase you loggin level? [11:26] mancha: at home i connect to my unseure network on my salckware mahines. [11:26] there are no slackware unsecre machines [11:26] Patero-ng: obviously you haven't dealt with some users :) [11:27] Patero-ng: well ok, i should say it's not wep encrypted. [11:27] sorry I just got back [11:27] am glad I know my issue were [11:27] I don't encryopt my wifi [11:27] if someone wants to use my internet go ahead [11:27] Patero-ng: are you crazy? [11:27] well maybe he lives in a cave with no one else around [11:27] no cuz my pcs have secure user accounts [11:28] with su password protected [11:28] slackware is as secure as the admin makes it [11:28] Patero-ng, so your connection is open source and free:P [11:28] Patero-ng: the security of the OS is not the issue. [11:28] alisonken1home: is that a iwconfig command or something elsewhere? [11:28] Patero-ng: the bandwidth abuse from other users is. [11:29] I know I can monitor who's connected thur device list on my router and if I decide I keep him or drop him [11:29] iwcnonfig command [11:29] iwconfig wlan0 txpower [11:29] I believe [11:29] Skywise: ah ok, dmesg shows "mismatch in privacy configuration and mixed-cell disabled - abort aassociation" [11:29] i guess that's probably good information [11:29] Patero-ng: I'd rather enable encryption, and not monitor those. [11:29] Pig_Pen, it's not true [11:29] yeah, thats a good starting point [11:30] notKlaatu: man iwconfig and look at txpower option [11:30] ok, i'll read it over [11:31] sirslack1r (n=sirslack@p54B1395D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [11:31] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p54B1395D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:32] john_dee (n=id@95-29-15-252.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [11:33] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [11:34] jeff_hann (n=arares@89.47.83.116) joined ##slackware. [11:38] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [11:41] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.103.135) left irc: Operation timed out [11:41] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.103.135) joined ##slackware. [11:42] Dumbix: your nick fits you well [11:42] Dumbix (n=ence@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:44] :D [11:45] if I install ubuntu so i can use the fglrx prop driver provided for their distro, is there something I can do to help someone here create a slackware port of it? [11:45] so that I don't have to -defile- my system by using ubuntu just to get my gfx card to work? [11:45] Axius (n=oijhif@92.84.23.52) left irc: "Leaving" [11:46] dartmouth, make a slackbuild? [11:47] hiptobecubic: its the proprietary driver, it's just precompiled binaries; to be honest im not even sure where they are going [11:47] it seems like it would be more complicated than that, like making boot scritps that modify the environment a little [11:47] dartmouth: can you just extract it from ATI's driver package? [11:47] sort of 'trick the driver' into thinking you're using ubuntu [11:47] why? It's just a kernel module isn't it? [11:48] hiptobecubic: i thought that too but apparently the working versions are going to red hate enterprise and ubuntu [11:48] so im assuming they are custom versions just for those distros [11:49] e.g. different code, even [11:49] 64bit or no/ [11:49] I'm talking about catalyst 9.12 and the radeon hd 5770 to be specific [11:49] http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx have you been here yet? [11:49] probably; I don't have x, gimme a sec [11:50] are you 64bit? [11:50] dartmouth, ^ [11:50] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:50] yeah ive been there [11:50] ive been allll over there. [11:51] im 64 bit but everything running is 32 bit [11:51] and you've downloaded this driver? http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.43&lang=English [11:51] it says it's for the card you just mentioned [11:51] I tried the ati driver, the catalyst package does NOT like the -current kernel (2.6.32.3) [11:51] alisonken1home, -current is on 2.6.32.3 now? [11:51] alisonken1home: im using 2.6.29.6 [11:51] yep [11:51] -smp [11:51] snap [11:51] as of saturday night [11:52] i'm behind! [11:52] hiptobecubic: what version catalyst was that? 9.12? [11:52] 9,3 [11:52] is that a new policy of the devs? to keep more current with the kernels? iirc slack always lagged a nice amount on kernels [11:52] dartmouth, yes. says 9.12 on the page [11:52] 9.3 doesn't support the radeon 5770 [11:52] 9.3 revision 80.9 [11:52] gutts (n=gutts@213.162.50.51) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:52] hiptobecubic: yeah, that's the catalyst version i used [11:53] i also tried 9.11 [11:53] I have an ati X600 card at the office I had to downgrade to when my nvidia card decided to stop doing graphics [11:53] dartmouth, also do you have 32bit libs installed? [11:53] It says it needs them (which is extremely lame btw) [11:53] and im getting a hard lock when i try to use fglrx; hiptobecubic it's a 32 bit system running on 64 bit hardware [11:54] dartmouth, anything in the error logs? Xorg.0.log, dmesg? etc? [11:54] hiptobecubic: no because it's a hard lock :( [11:54] oh right :D sorry [11:54] ok - where do I find the newer catalyst drivers? [11:54] alisonken1home: right on their website [11:54] alisonken1home, http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.43&lang=English [11:55] nvidia's binary blob is ugly, but i must admit, they are doing a better job than ati [11:55] LOL [11:55] numb3rs definition of irc [11:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ [11:55] there is a 9.12 hotfix releast but there's nothing in the docs indicating that it fixes this particular issue. [11:55] interesting - it isn't offered when you go through their click-throughs [11:55] i 5p33k l337 [11:56] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl10-139-149.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:57] ah - the selections for the x600 take you to the legacy driver download [11:57] http://imagebin.org/79541 there back again [11:58] but yes what i dont understand is why support for the 5770 was introduced in 9.11 and still isn't working by 9.12 [11:58] at all [12:01] Mp3, :D [12:01] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:02] hahaha [12:03] luckly i speek leet [12:03] MAssEy (i=1000@90.149.67.12) joined ##slackware. [12:03] hiptobecubic that's why i don't see those csi shitty like tv shows [12:03] ZOOM 666x [12:03] there they are [12:04] increase resolution! [12:04] Linux-IRC (n=Linux-IR@unaffiliated/easy) left irc: "leaving" [12:04] i cant believe its 2010 and video cards are still a pain in the ass [12:05] ms is still putting out crappy software, go figure [12:06] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [12:06] they also put out decent software. go figure [12:07] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [12:07] when? [12:07] yah my video card works there [12:07] Skywise: windows 7 for example. [12:07] i think the ms bashing went out of fashion a while back [12:07] who's bashing [12:08] GooseYArd: not here. it's still 1997 [12:08] ananke ahah [12:08] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-211-188.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:08] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [12:08] every time I use msvc for a while and then go back to eclipse, i whimper in my sleep a little [12:09] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:09] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:12] >.> [12:13] whimper? :P [12:13] there's nothing wrong with the occassional ms bashing :> [12:14] alkos333 (n=alkos333@173-108-139-151.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [12:14] Action: nix_chix0r trips Necos [12:14] Action: Necos falls [12:14] hey nix_chix0r! :) [12:14] hi you! [12:14] still in the treehouse? [12:15] yup haha [12:15] LOL [12:16] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [12:16] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-151-38.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:16] thinking of expanding [12:16] the treehouse that is [12:16] when does monkeyboy ballmer kill a kitten? [12:16] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:16] matu (n=matu@client80-83-41-117.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [12:17] you have a real treehouse? [12:17] dErFz (n=derf@pwnflakes.lobbyzffs.com) joined ##slackware. [12:17] you got to post a pic or two [12:18] hehe [12:18] he likes the kitties [12:18] Pig_Pen, not a authentic treehouse. fire|bird has the real one. i just live in the woods [12:19] me too, scroll up for a photo of the wild turkeys in my backyard [12:19] i snapped that pic just a few minutes ago [12:19] Why bash MS? MS after all is a posterboy for free and dynamic competition that serves to improve the quality of products/services for the end-user. They do not engage in monopolistic agreements and pressure over hardware makers thereby limiting the compatibility of said hw with other OSes. They clearly let the user decide whether they prefer FF or Chrome. Etc. [12:20] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p54B1395D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:20] and for those of you who accurately describe windows vista as a 10 tone pile of crap, you're rigth but getover it alreayd, after all there's Windows 7 right? geez, windows 7 people, everything else doesn't matter! :) [12:22] dartmouth (n=dartmout@pool-72-65-98-68.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:22] the turkeys are still in my back yard, they are eating the seeds that i scattered under the bird feeder when the snow & ice covered everything [12:22] kitties! [12:22] turkey for dinner? [12:23] how much tree you got to expand with nix_chix0r? [12:23] jeff_hann (n=arares@89.47.83.116) left ##slackware. [12:23] apparently one turkey managed to get a computer and logged in to irc under the nick mancha [12:23] hahaha [12:24] this condition is known as: Sarcasticus NonGrokus Chronicus [12:24] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:24] Hoogin: naw, i wont kill a turkey today, i will keep em coming back with bird seed, if there ever is a shortage of food i wont have to go far for a wild turky, (just open a window and shoot) [12:25] you have to fatten them up [12:25] how about you just open the window and toss a grenade? [12:25] wild turkeys are awful [12:25] better than starving [12:25] relative to butterballs [12:25] ew poopy diaper that was bad [12:26] how old? [12:26] cage em up in a large pen and feed em corn for a few months will take that gamey flavor out of em [12:26] Pig_Pen, neat [12:26] i want to do a pig roast [12:26] GooseYArd, 10mo [12:27] oh neat [12:27] PenPerk1 (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:27] Wiren- (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:27] whole hog barbecue [12:27] i have an 18mo old who is making nightmare diapers right now [12:27] Pig_Pen, yeah we wana do it this summer [12:27] pig roast, eh, nix_chix0r? barbaric :) [12:27] gona do a bbq roast thing, and build a deck [12:27] i like it! [12:27] get a group of peeps [12:28] party at nix_chix0r's house! [12:28] GooseYArd, i can't imagine what gets left in those diapers cause i've seen some pretty bad ones [12:28] Necos, hellzyea [12:28] i try not to look too closely but sometimes it cant be helped [12:28] dig a pit, fill it with oak firewood and light, let it burn down to hot coals, put whole hog on a slowly rotating spit over the coals, wait 2 hours [12:29] lol evil diapers... [12:29] Pig_Pen, damn it, you're making me hungry, ya jerk! [12:29] Pig_Pen, i think it's like an all day process [12:29] if you do it the traditional hawaiian way [12:30] covered in bananna leaves? where it is steamed to juicy tenderness [12:30] Pig_Pen, i'm gonna kirr yew >.<; [12:31] Necos theres got to be good places to eat old fashioned barbecue in LA [12:31] look for houses with a smoking hole in the lawn [12:32] yeah, but retardedly expensive [12:32] chuck56 (n=chuck56@unaffiliated/chuck56) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:33] i used to live in san diego back in the 1970's been to LA a few times, thats a big scary place to a country boy [12:34] where in the country? [12:34] i live in south east oklahoma now, about 30 miles north of Lake Texoma [12:34] oh neat [12:34] i have to consult my map [12:35] haha you can't miss it! i'll have a pimpin setup [12:35] GOGO MN [12:35] look up Ada Oklahoma, and then look south of town about 10 miles [12:35] oh there you are [12:36] ooooooklahomaa da da da da da da [12:36] im going to wind up traveling to okc at some point i suspect [12:36] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:39] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [12:39] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [12:39] never been to okc [12:39] wonder whats there! [12:40] Is there a way to find out how long a particular process was running when it quit? [12:40] Wir3n (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:40] ml4711 (n=morten@0x50a69862.rdnxx1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:40] yah turn on process accounting [12:41] /sbin/accton /var/log/pacct [12:43] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: [12:44] lets see, fun places in OKC, there is Frontier City, and the Cowboy Museum, Brick Town and the canal, Myriad Botanical Gardens, whitewater bay water park, Remington Park horse races, (lots to do) [12:44] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:45] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-7-251.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:45] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:46] be aware the /var/log/pacct will fill up very very quickly [12:46] Wiren- (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:46] Nick change: adaptr_ -> adaptr [12:47] Wiren- (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:48] distrust (n=distrust@69-165-157-207.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [12:48] Zordrak: yup. np. work okay? [12:50] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: "Leaving." [12:51] djustice (n=kde@cablepool5-237.elberton.net) joined ##slackware. [12:53] Pig_Pen, SD is fun, but meth has messed that place up IMO (same with oxnard) [12:54] necos im from WV, same thing [12:54] meth and ocycontin [12:55] SD ? south dakota ? [12:55] a whole state with metheads [12:55] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-7-251.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [12:55] /j #smackware [12:55] sand diego [12:55] *san diego [12:55] :D [12:56] notKlaatu (n=sxe@office.vivisimo.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:56] ##slackware-offtopic [12:56] AbsTradELic (i=1000@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [12:57] Greetings [12:57] meth and tiajuana [12:57] oh yeaaah [12:57] sandy eggo [12:57] leggo my eggo [12:57] Action: Necos stabs fire|bird [12:57] :) [12:57] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-7-251.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:57] Action: fire|bird laughs and stabs Necos right back. [12:58] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.23.44) joined ##slackware. [12:58] tiajuana ? [12:58] hehehe, good ole fire|bird [12:59] thats how they named the city, someone toasted some eggos at the beach and when they popped out of the toaster they fell on the ground and they had sandy eggos [12:59] Hola [13:00] mako (n=mako@81.22.23.70) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:00] tiajuana is a city in mexico just across the border from san diego [13:00] isn't it tijuana [13:00] known for its 1 dollar strippers and whore [13:00] *s [13:00] martijuana [13:00] tiajuana is how its spelled as far as i know [13:01] ti wuanna [13:01] tea wanna [13:01] lol [13:01] you know who i hate [13:01] who [13:01] joaquin phoenix [13:01] my name needs to be pronounced wa-keen [13:01] huuuh WHAT ? [13:01] he uses more than his fair share of vowels [13:02] why ? you dont like people with surgically removed rabbit lips dude ? [13:02] hehehehehe [13:02] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:02] heheh no nut really [13:02] goarilla: actually it's hoakin [13:03] It should be spelled that way [13:03] fine [13:03] i still hate him [13:03] and his stupid god damn family [13:03] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@corp-190-12-31-106-cue.puntonet.ec) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:03] GooseYArd: thanks. will that also cover processes that are already running? [13:03] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-151-38.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:04] Wir3n (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:04] i dont think so [13:05] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:05] anyone reading slashdot today? [13:05] ##slackware-offtopic [13:05] spook, shaddap :P [13:07] Wiren- (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:08] jg71 (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:08] jg71 (n=edud@76.74.129.199) joined ##slackware. [13:09] Nick change: agentc0re -> ass|hat [13:10] Nick change: ass|hat -> agentc0re [13:10] Patero-ng (n=dragon@174-23-33-43.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:11] alkos333 (n=alkos333@173-108-139-151.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:13] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: "flw" [13:20] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-191-28-135.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:21] klaatu (n=klaatu@office.vivisimo.com) joined ##slackware. [13:21] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-80-29.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [13:21] Nick change: klaatu -> notKlaatu [13:21] thrice` Skywise alisonken1home mancha : wpa_supplicant was the solution [13:22] fyi ^^ [13:24] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-cdoykyoyvjcvxbjr) left irc: [13:25] notKlaatu, cool :) glad it works / sorry we're useless :> [13:26] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-66-92.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:28] Patero-ng (n=dragon@174-23-33-43.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:29] matu (n=matu@client80-83-41-117.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:32] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) joined ##slackware. [13:33] Hello [13:34] harro fredoslack [13:35] thrice`: no worries, i was just glad i wasn't the only one confused about it [13:35] Hi Necos [13:38] I've forgotten Larry H's nick.. anyone remember> [13:39] not offhand Zordrak... happy new year btw :P [13:39] lol :D [13:39] you too pal [13:39] Action: Zordrak gets tongue out of cheek [13:39] well, i haven't seen ya on IRC til now, so... :P [13:40] not been on much [13:41] Jiraia_ (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:19b) joined ##slackware. [13:41] jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:19b) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:41] damnnit.. he signs everything with his full name.. cant find a link to his nick [13:41] matu (n=matu@client80-83-41-117.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [13:42] lol [13:42] Zordrak: neonflux [13:42] pprkut: tyvm [13:42] np [13:43] Want to thank him for finally deciding to support xbmc through SBo. I was looking at sorting it out myself and, once again by looking at his, I'm so glad I didn't have to. [13:43] I just don't have the grip on the idiosyncracies that he has [13:43] hah [13:44] hehe [13:44] brb [13:44] xbmc always requires x+7 tweaks to make it work right on slack [13:44] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [13:45] matu (n=matu@client80-83-41-117.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:49] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [13:49] Zordrak, is it working properly? I spent some time building xbmc a few weeks ago using the new release. WHAT A PAIN IN THE ASS [13:50] thanx for the info Zordrak, i wasnt aware there was an sbo for it [13:50] zmyrgel (n=zmyrgel@hoasnet-fe22dd00-59.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [13:51] can anyone help with this kind of error when burning a dvd-r? http://pastebin.org/75001 [13:51] oh holy hell... how did i miss the release of thunderbird 3? [13:52] Necos, because no one bothers with desktop clients anymore ? [13:52] marra (i=marra@fly.srk.fer.hr) joined ##slackware. [13:52] TB + lightning is awesome [13:54] have you been using the betas [13:54] nope, but there were some features i was looking forward to (like better IMAP syncing) [13:55] it is, way, way improved [13:55] matu (n=matu@client80-83-42-195.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [13:55] that's what i've been reading on the zine forums [13:56] i really wish they'd have full on exchange support, but that's asking a bit much [13:57] i suspect someone will hack up openchange for lightning [13:58] openchange? [13:58] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@office.vivisimo.com) left irc: "leaving" [13:59] although im in a new office now where we don't have to fight like savages for a conference room [13:59] so ive abandoned the calendar [13:59] http://www.openchange.org/ [14:00] ms released a bunch of mapi docs so they're coding up a mapi client library [14:01] pupiteee (n=p@77.46.192.11) joined ##slackware. [14:01] hiptobecubic: building now [14:01] just doing some prereqs first [14:01] Zordrak, ah [14:01] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:02] take a look at larry's script.. xbmc is a serious arsebiscuit for building.. it's lucky its worth it [14:02] damn, openchange.org is kinda slow... [14:03] didier (n=dc@pth77-1-88-171-241-225.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:03] this is nice! [14:04] didier (n=dc@pth77-1-88-171-241-225.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:05] it's basically an exchange replacement, it seems.. [14:06] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.103.135) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:07] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.1) left irc: [14:08] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.103.135) joined ##slackware. [14:09] and the outlook compatibility is something awesome [14:09] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [14:10] njan (i=james@freenode/staff/njan) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:10] oh are they planning on making a server also? [14:11] for what is that openchange.org? [14:11] i wouldnt be too interested in that, but it would be nice to be able to publish a calendar to an exchange server without a bunch of dorkery [14:11] pup: its a mapi client library for unix [14:11] i dont know how far along it is yet [14:11] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [14:11] but they've been working on it for a couple of years or so now [14:12] it says it right on the webpage >.> [14:12] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.28) joined ##slackware. [14:12] GooseYArd: thanks ;) [14:14] it talks about making it work with samba 4... interesting indeed [14:14] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-141.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:16] coldcog (n=coldcog@c-98-202-121-136.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:16] agentc0re: crap, sorry. :P [14:16] yah you need that for the crypto [14:17] agentc0re: ok, fixed. [14:19] i like they idea of having a competitor to the big bad beast... evolution is just.. well... no... :P [14:21] Ephedrax (i=zeus@vps.process-evolution.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:21] Ephedrax (i=1000@AReims-152-1-152-3.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:22] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.227.24.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:25] guax (n=guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:25] zecafig (n=zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) left irc: "POF!" [14:26] I just built tb 3.0 from the -current slackbuild for my 12.2 box. Woohoo! [14:27] \o/ [14:27] BP{k}: easier than altering the 12.2 slackbuild [14:27] thumbs: hah, I bet :) [14:27] BP{k}: and I looked - there doesn't seem to be anything specific to -current, or for 64bit. [14:28] BP{k}: so it *should* be safe. [14:28] lol built? [14:28] Necos: from the ... binary package, ye. [14:28] Action: x-ip cry because wine takes a lot of time to compile ;_; [14:28] Necos: ok, I made a package. No big deal. But it's TB 3.0! [14:29] pastebin it thumbs kthx :P [14:29] Necos: in a sec - just realized it made a .txz [14:31] Necos: just grab the .Slackbuild from -current, and change the extension to .tgz at the end [14:32] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.103.135) left irc: Connection timed out [14:32] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.103.135) joined ##slackware. [14:33] oh hehe [14:33] hi, I'm having difficulties getting svn connection from home to my schools lan [14:33] Necos: it's trivial, yes. Ooooooh, 3.0 is pretty. [14:34] I can ssh to gateway and from there to the internal repository server but I can't get tunnel working from home to there [14:34] I get channel 2: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed [14:35] any suggestions what could be wrong? [14:35] that means the port is blocked [14:35] not much you can do besides try a tunneling proxy [14:36] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-149-233.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [14:37] hmm, would the ssh -N -L 33333:remote:22 gateway.com be wrong then? The destination port especialy? [14:37] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: "Leaving" [14:37] piccardTE20 (n=j@67.Red-88-15-195.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [14:38] might work... you'll just have to find a port that isn't blocked [14:38] techwonder (n=techwond@c-76-25-159-2.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:39] Hoogin (n=hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left ##slackware. [14:39] but how can I then access the svn server running on the remote host? [14:39] coldcog (n=coldcog@c-98-202-121-136.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:40] pupiteee (n=p@77.46.192.11) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:40] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.103.135) left irc: Operation timed out [14:40] brb >.> [14:40] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [14:41] pupiteee (n=p@79.101.146.29) joined ##slackware. [14:41] Hello all, I have a firefox question. I am running Slackware64 and firefox keeps shutting down on me after a few minutes. The error that I get when I start it on the command line is /usr/lib64/firefox-3.5.2/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 10508 Illegal instruction "$prog" ${1+"$@"} [14:41] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.72.88) joined ##slackware. [14:41] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.103.135) joined ##slackware. [14:42] any clue as to how to fix this? [14:42] techwonder, first, patch your FF! http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware64-13.0/patches/packages/mozilla-firefox-3.5.6-x86_64-1_slack13.0.txz [14:42] doing it now [14:42] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware64-13.0/patches/packages/ you should have all of those [14:43] I think that FF will need the cairo package from there, too [14:44] piccardTE20 (n=j@67.Red-88-15-195.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left ##slackware. [14:45] working on it now thx [14:47] wow, TB 3.0 is very different from 2.0. [14:48] pthreat (i=c8319e97@gateway/web/freenode/x-oofyrkcjmewbyeuf) left ##slackware. [14:49] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:53] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:53] hey folks :-) [14:53] hey macavity [14:55] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-7-251.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [14:55] still the same problem after installing the patch only this time firefox closed without leaving anything in the term window. [14:56] man, i'm still laughing off this /. article :) [14:56] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [14:57] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:58] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [14:58] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-7-251.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:59] the second time has given the same illegal instruction as the first time [15:01] did you install the cairo package too? [15:02] yes - all of them [15:02] I also did the complete install from dvd a few days ago [15:02] hmmmm [15:03] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [15:03] The-spiki (n=spiki@77-105-33-215.dialup.sezampro.yu) joined ##slackware. [15:04] i also put in a 32 bit compatability layer in just so that I could use flashplayer [15:05] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-7-255.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [15:05] hi there [15:05] eh? you did what techwonder? [15:06] placed a 32 bit compatability layer on the computer as well [15:06] is Pat ever going to add 32 bit compat libs to slackware64? maybe 13.1? [15:06] that sounds like something very dangerous :P [15:06] heh. [15:06] i think it's meant to be full 64-bit [15:07] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/ [15:07] 32-bit libraries should work, they just aren't included. [15:07] (should and do in most cases, but aren't officially supported) [15:07] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-66-92.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [15:08] adobe should build a 64 bit flash plugin [15:08] Pig_Pen: I take it you didn't try googling "64-bit flash" ? [15:09] nope [15:09] I believe they have but I don't think it is in the 13.0 stable yet [15:09] grazymax (n=grazymax@host198-12-dynamic.26-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:09] i guess techwonder did not either [15:10] i will be quiet before i insert my other foot in my mouth [15:10] You may find the first result interesting. [15:11] I have never been able to install anything other then .tgz packs [15:12] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@193.239.140.184) joined ##slackware. [15:12] Nick change: ga_bash -> free_fox [15:12] free_fox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: "Leaving" [15:12] free_fox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [15:12] even the rpm2tgz package has not worked [15:12] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [15:12] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) left irc: "..." [15:13] free_fox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Client Quit [15:13] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [15:13] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.227.24.dyn.user.ono.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:13] techwonder: did an slackware 13 64bits install 2 weeks ago.. no problems. [15:14] have you been able to play youtube vids and dvd's? I couldn't just with the default 'all' on the dvd. [15:15] Do you know what's on 17th? [15:15] techwonder: Dvds yes. haven't tried youtube yet.. just a sec.. [15:15] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [15:15] Nick change: ga_bash -> free_fox [15:16] answer: premiere of 24, season 8 [15:16] anyone has seen chuck 3x03 ??? :) [15:17] aka the best show ever [15:17] is that the show with Kiefer Sutherland yelling loudly and pointing guns at everyone? [15:17] yes. but when he's not yelling he speaks calmly [15:18] season *EIGHT*? [15:19] does that mean the series is only 8 days old? [15:19] that sucks.. they promissed us we would only have to indure that crap for twenty four hours :-/ [15:19] *endure [15:20] matu (n=matu@client80-83-42-195.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:21] i only watch TV for a few hours in the evening "IF" there is anything good on the Discovery channel, or an old movie on Turner Classic Movies, sometimes PBS if Nova has something good on [15:21] TV advertising has made me not watch TV so much anymore, it is just video spam [15:22] AbsTradELic (i=1000@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: "Nao confundam LIBERDADE com LIBERTINAGEM: Usem licenças GNU !!" [15:22] moh2a (n=nome@92.49.75.181) joined ##slackware. [15:22] matu (n=matu@client80-83-42-195.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [15:22] techwonder: no joy on youtube.. but thats because i cant get the flashplayer to install correctly under FF [15:23] you can use youtube-dl to download the video and watch with mplayer or xine (for those cant-miss videos) [15:23] techwonder... the dvdplayer(s) need an extra library [15:23] there are several other scripts that will get the video file, *.flv [15:24] dru1d (n=dru1d@ip-82-177-172-217.net.azartsat.pl) left irc: "leaving" [15:27] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:28] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [15:28] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:29] substancev (n=substanc@1-18-132-169.idt.net) left irc: "Changing server" [15:32] Axius (n=oijhif@92.84.18.168) joined ##slackware. [15:35] MarderIII: use flash-player-plugin from slackbuilds.org [15:36] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-141.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:37] Tnx.. will take a look at it [15:38] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving." [15:39] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.72.88) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:39] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:40] there is a 64bit flash plugin... [15:40] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@corp-190-12-31-106-cue.puntonet.ec) joined ##slackware. [15:40] from adobe [15:41] http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/ [15:42] pupitee: thats the one I had trouble with.. but thanks! [15:42] np [15:42] canyouscore (n=canyousc@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:42] MarderII: illegal instruction issue? if so it may be the lafh bug [15:42] alisonken1home: no.. installer issue. [15:43] ah [15:43] didn't use the Slackbuild? [15:43] Not then. :-\ [15:43] will try later [15:44] canyouscore (n=canyousc@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [15:45] see you ppl :) [15:46] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "rah, pegadinha do malandro" [15:47] MarderIII thanks for letting me know I wasn't crazy. I tried to install the plugin and it wouldn't work. What did seem to work for a while was taking the packages I needed from a 64 current rep. instead of the stable one. But I still can't watch DVD's (encrypted) [15:48] techwonder: correct.. the needed library isn't shipped.. because it's illegal in some countries [15:50] The-Croupier (n=ChrisOne@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [15:50] has anyone seen chuck 3x03 ??? :) [15:50] That's what I guessed. On Ubuntu, they are just in a restricted repos. Since I've installed Slack, I've read so many faqs and they all seem to go off in their own directions. No real answer to a fix (on some things anyway). [15:50] Greetings boys ;) hows it going today? [15:52] Slack is better at everything in my opinion than Ubuntu but things like dvd and streaming shouldn't be such a hazzy subject. [15:52] techwonder: mplayer and xine work perfectly if the decoding library is installed. But you'll have to find and install it yourself [15:53] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:54] when I did my full dvd install I went with the default install which was all the packages except for one set which was for development. I think I might just do a complete reinstall and include that as well. [15:54] get mplayer's essential codecs package and unpack to /usr/lib/codecs slackbuilds has it (i think) [15:55] for the development packages? no, just mount the cdrom and go to /d and run installpkg ./* [15:56] or dvd [15:56] http://www.slackwiki.org/Libdvdcss [15:56] linuxpackages.net is not a recommended slackware repository, though [15:57] and the link on that page is for v12 - enter 'libdvdcss" in the search box and select the slackware version you're using [15:57] I'm wondering if I should do a slackpkg clean-system first to clean off all that 32 multilayer crud I put on first. [15:57] slackpkg install d will work too [15:57] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5A0F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:57] I think? 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[16:04] The-Croupier: unfortunately, I should be asleep. some construction at the school behind the house was making noises that woke me up [16:04] Axius (n=oijhif@92.84.18.168) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:05] interesting - pine has been replaced by alpie [16:05] alpine [16:05] I successfully upgraded XBMC [16:05] It works, but there are definite issues. [16:06] 1. the Play button no longer enqueues the contents of a folder [16:06] Zordrak: nice! [16:06] 2. Plugins dont seem to work *at all* [16:06] okay, not so nice. [16:06] indeed [16:06] i am no thoroughly happy. [16:06] thankfully I have two media centres.. this is my lesser used one [16:07] nothing like screwing with upstream and wondering why tech support goes to carp [16:08] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-7-255.33-151.iol.it) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [16:08] Jiraia_ (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:19b) left irc: Client Quit [16:08] well, nothing like wrong window too [16:09] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-102.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:09] slava_dp (n=family@nas-pra-03.fregat.net) joined ##slackware. [16:09] jmonter (i=3fc7dba2@gateway/web/freenode/x-yoomivvzijvxsuef) joined ##slackware. [16:10] ok - time to try sleeping _one more time_ [16:10] sleep well... :-) [16:10] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: "leaving" [16:11] Nick change: moh2a -> mohaa [16:12] what is the recommended level of kernel preemption for a desktop kde 4 machine? I've set it to preemptible kernel (low-latency desktop) but i wonder if voluntary kernel (desktop) which is in the default slackware config is a better option. [16:13] ljubak (n=ljubak@cable-94-189-151-37.dynamic.sbb.rs) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:13] i love 2.6.32.3. runs so great. [16:14] these new kernels are exciting [16:14] bgeddy (n=ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:14] i see... its been a while ive been at home ;) [16:15] bgeddy (n=ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:15] Nick change: GooseYArd -> GooseGOne [16:17] Zordrak: both running xbmc? [16:17] a side question.... i've optimized my kernel for pentium4 and disabled "generic x86 support" but i still get this in dmesg: "Kernel supported cpus: Intel, Amd, Nsc, Cyrix etc.". where can I remove support for them? [16:18] agentc0re: indeed [16:18] if it is feasible to do so... 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[16:24] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-7-251.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [16:24] has anyone here ever tried t mount an mdf file? [16:25] sudo mount -o loop file.mdf /mnt/disk gives a "No file or directory" error [16:25] what does ls /mnt/ give you ;) [16:25] disk is in mnt [16:26] Is that a cd image? [16:26] Reticenti: there was a tool, like mdf2iso. [16:26] from alcohol? [16:27] antiwire: yeah, it's a cd image [16:27] and i'll look into mdf2iso [16:27] http://prdownload.berlios.de/mdf2iso/mdf2iso-0.3.0-src.tar.bz2 [16:27] slava_dp: under Processor Type. [16:27] Reticenti: use this, it's a successor to mdf2iso. http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/multimedia/iat/ [16:27] thanks :) [16:27] slava_dp, ftw [16:28] antiwire: :) [16:28] what antiwire said [16:28] jmonter: yep... 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[16:34] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [16:35] but the VPN i use that goes back to my house is down [16:35] antiwire: you sure you switched it back? [16:36] slava_dp: do a search by pressing "/" and type what AMD or Cyrix or what ever to find where it is and if its enabled. [16:36] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left ##slackware. [16:38] nvision (n=nvision@g225060136.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [16:38] ah, there is CONFIG_EMBEDDED... gonna have to look into it [16:39] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:40] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:40] Immundus (n=obi@e179134107.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "when in trouble when in doubt run in circles scream and shout" [16:41] jmonter (i=3fc7dba2@gateway/web/freenode/x-yoomivvzijvxsuef) left ##slackware. [16:45] it's "Configure standard kernel features (for small systems)". it let's you fine-tune the kernel to all the tiny bits. interesting. [16:47] bhychik (n=bhychik@83.167.107.103) joined ##slackware. [16:47] Ugh.. the major suckfest that is XBMC support [16:49] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [16:50] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@corp-190-12-31-106-cue.puntonet.ec) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:53] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@corp-190-12-31-106-cue.puntonet.ec) joined ##slackware. [16:56] Delahunt (n=robert@fe219-115.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [16:56] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [16:56] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:59] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. 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[18:16] who let the pigs out..... oink oink [18:16] you did! :D [18:19] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:21] sQuEE (n=narya@host80.201-252-49.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [18:27] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) left ##slackware. [18:29] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@corp-190-12-31-106-cue.puntonet.ec) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:30] spider1010 (n=spider10@206.sub-97-39-233.myvzw.com) left irc: "Bye" [18:30] someone needs to pound this guy in to the ground http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/10/01/12/1743241/Man-Sues-Neighbor-For-Not-Turning-Off-His-Wi-Fi [18:31] ^^ [18:32] spider1010 (n=spider10@206.sub-97-39-233.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [18:35] Pig_Pen: lol. Some people need to spend more time doing stuff than imagining these things haha, 'electromagnetic allergies' lol [18:35] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:36] fwc (i=0@cpe-204-210-154-184.hvc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:37] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201204959]" [18:39] it has been found recently that a low dose of microwave radio waves such as a cellphone can prevent altzheimers disease, they did a study of elderly and found that those that used cellphones often did not have the proteins associated with altzheimers disease [18:40] Dominus (n=rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:40] Nick change: Dominus -> Guest46730 [18:41] Nick change: Guest46730 -> TheGroove [18:43] Nick change: OpenSys -> opensys [18:43] I saw that. It's still a really early thing, and they need to do more testing. [18:43] pireau_ (i=1000@208.92.18.115) joined ##slackware. [18:43] It's certainly interesting. [18:43] wasnt that study funded by mobile phone companies? [18:44] packeteer (n=zed@203.36.227.227) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:44] TClayton (n=tony@unaffiliated/tclayton) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:44] Nick change: opensys -> OpenSys [18:45] I don't believe so. [18:45] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [18:46] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [18:46] packeteer (n=zed@203.36.227.227) joined ##slackware. [18:47] esteeven (n=esteeven@82-32-107-213.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:48] TClayton (n=tony@unaffiliated/tclayton) joined ##slackware. [18:48] heh! i knew somebody was going to say that! [18:49] hello [18:49] sahk0: you get the golden Turkey award! [18:49] well, thats usually the case cause those companies are the ones they are interest in such stuff. who would spend money on something that doesnt concern him, furthermore a company [18:51] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:51] greetings and salutations [18:51] andarius: hai? [18:51] brb [18:51] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left ##slackware ("leaving"). 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[18:59] when they say Make sure the user running the daemon has write permissions [18:59] to /var/www/htdocs/lsnet (or whatever WEBDIR you configure in /etc/lsnet.conf ie: ~user/html/lsnet) [18:59] and the LOGDIR (not configurable yet) /var/lib/lsnet [19:00] is it chmod +x /var/www/htdocs/lsnet/ ...? [19:00] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("No matter how dark the night, somehow the Sun rises once again"). [19:01] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-14-172.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:02] Masterx831: +x is not +w [19:03] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:03] Masterx831: depends on this daemon, what it's for and if the user should be the one running it. if the user is, then where is it writing to?(guessing somewhere in the home directory). [19:04] http://65.33.178.28/lsnet [19:04] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [19:04] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:05] agentc0re: can you see it? [19:05] Masterx831: i see something, but i don't know what i should be looking at. [19:06] if you browse to it like that you should also see what i am seeing. [19:08] agentc0re: lsnet is a light weight computer resource/stats monitor. Copyright (C) 2009 sterling pickens [19:08] Vince (n=quassel@94-193-185-234.zone7.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere." [19:09] bbits (n=dev@adsl-99-144-169-164.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:09] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [19:09] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:09] http://sterlingdesktops.com/pub/lsnet/lsnet-dev.tar.bz2 [19:09] pirving (n=jd@pool-72-73-95-74.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:10] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:10] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [19:10] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.49.155) joined ##slackware. [19:17] agentc0re: are you still lost? [19:17] try to compile it [19:19] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.93.152) joined ##slackware. [19:20] packeteer (n=zed@203.36.227.227) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:24] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.36.132) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:27] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [19:28] Hello, are there any 3d extensive, native linux benchmarks ( like using pixel shaders etc.) ? [19:29] =root@fubx:/home/masterx831/Sources/lsnet-dev# chmod +w /var/www/htdocs/lsnet/ [19:29] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [19:31] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:32] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [19:33] techwonder (n=techwond@c-76-25-159-2.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:35] that's pretty fsckingf easy. [19:35] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5A0F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:35] (as in regards to compiling lsnet) [19:36] Just used slackbuilds to install mplayer-codecs and flash on my slack64 box. I just tried to do the slackbuild for libdvdcss and it gives me a C compiler cannot create executables error. Anyone know how to fix this? [19:37] packeteer (n=zed@203.36.227.227) joined ##slackware. [19:37] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:37] techwonder: http://slackbuilds.org/faq/#x86_64 [19:37] http://slackbuilds.org/faq/#x86_64 <-- you have followed that? [19:37] lol, I win :P [19:37] :P [19:37] looking now...guess my eyesight is going too :) [19:38] ardya (i=ardy@unaffiliated/ardya) joined ##slackware. [19:38] hi folks [19:38] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:38] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:38] looking at SBo postgres build script...any way to just build runtime and dev? [19:39] I dont need the server, or postgres user [19:42] that deid the trick thanks ...just left the eye doc about an hour ago...mutters to self [19:42] that did [19:50] alisonken1hom2 (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:50] guess not [19:50] ardya (i=ardy@unaffiliated/ardya) left ##slackware ("BitchX: There is no reason."). [19:52] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:52] see how other distros do it can make buildscript(s) that work on Slackware [19:54] netox (n=matu@client80-83-42-195.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [19:55] chuck56 (n=chuck56@unaffiliated/chuck56) joined ##slackware. [19:58] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:58] Action: edman007 bites nix_chix0r [19:59] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [20:01] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [20:03] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [20:06] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:06] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201204959]" [20:10] dlant (n=dlant@245.89.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [20:10] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:11] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [20:16] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [20:16] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.219.111.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [20:16] <|Slacker|> hello [20:17] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [20:23] whats the difference between the kvm-kmod, qemu-kvm and kvm packages on slackbuilds? [20:24] oh, found my answer on the linux-kvm.org download page. [20:25] hi edman007 [20:25] hi [20:26] nix_chix0r, anything new? [20:26] Action: edman007 slaps agentc0re for not being observant [20:27] edman007, kids pretty close to walkin [20:27] i think he'll run first [20:27] nix_chix0r, tie him up to a treadmill [20:27] a year on 3.18 [20:27] hwk (n=hwk@CPE-121-214-172-211.lnse3.lon.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [20:27] set it on high [20:27] wtf naw [20:28] you don't want a turbo kid? [20:28] get him to run a 5 minute mile in 2 months [20:28] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [20:28] yeah i don't think he's ready for that yet. we're still learning the basics [20:28] and maybe he can be the first person to run at mach 1 and compile openoffice on slackware at the same time [20:29] Action: edman007 is not much for basics [20:29] like, not to bite the cat's tail [20:29] hahaha [20:30] he is so impressed with everything it seems. but there are the weird things that make it worthwhile [20:30] maybe you can teach him to be a cat herder [20:30] nix_chix0r, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8 [20:30] like that [20:31] haha if he wants to do that as a career .... what ever pays the bills and not peddling crack [20:31] but peddling crack does pay the bills [20:31] tuvok302Lappy (i=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-54.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] high risk and high rewards [20:31] just don't use it [20:32] lol! true words [20:35] agreed [20:35] ice seems to be the new in thing though [20:35] really? [20:35] Action: edman007 is still into kitten huffing [20:36] yeah, cat pee is awesome [20:36] and cat herders can make a lot if they don't mind kitten huffing [20:36] people are willing to pay for that [20:36] edman007, i knew you were a sick bastid [20:36] time would only telll [20:36] don't hate [20:36] you can't come over [20:37] :( [20:37] be huffing my kitties and steal my tv [20:37] i know your kind>:) [20:38] haha [20:38] borrow! [20:39] and I'm not the one mailing a crate of pony heads [20:39] I ask for a pony, that is not what i wanted [20:39] maybe you are the sick one! [20:40] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [20:40] You both seem pretty weird to me:P [20:40] djustice (n=kde@cablepool5-237.elberton.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:40] yeah [20:41] hwk, don't judge [20:41] I never said I was normal either. [20:41] edman007, I'm commenting, not judging. [20:43] I [20:43] 'm a different sort of weird [20:43] Action: andarius is scared of normal people :( [20:43] adarius: normal is also wierd. therefor weird is normal. [20:44] so does that mean your scared of weird people? [20:44] yup [20:44] andarius, i'm horrified, look at the decisions they make and views they have [20:44] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:46] edman007: People do make some bad decisions sometimes, like the maker of this laptop, putting the enter key right next to the ' key [20:46] lmao2k (n=nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:46] then making the keys tiny. [20:46] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:46] lmao2k (n=nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [20:47] that sucks [20:47] me having to wake up at 430ish tomorrow also sucks [20:47] awesome little netbook though [20:47] yeah that would suck [20:48] hwk, 7am flight...how bad do you think the NY airports are going to be? [20:48] plus traffic... [20:48] wow, maybe you should arrive at 3AM, I've heard horrible things about how slow security is there. [20:49] interstate? [20:49] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.96.76) joined ##slackware. [20:50] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:50] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [20:50] well technically, i'm flying to a non-state...so, i'm leaving the state but not entering any other state... [20:52] Alright, not being American. I don't know what you mean. unless you mean your just flying into a different city in the state? [20:52] telperion (n=Adium@190.156.15.83) joined ##slackware. [20:53] oh...i'm flying to washington DC, technically is is all federal land and not a state [20:53] ComputerNoobie (n=peter@c-67-180-200-131.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:53] but then again, i suppose the airport is on the other side of the river [20:53] ahh ok. [20:54] Masterx831 (n=masterx8@28.178.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:54] telperion (n=Adium@190.156.15.83) left ##slackware. [20:54] alright, my system hates me, well actually ext3 does...so reboot time, brb (i hope) [20:54] Masterx831 (n=masterx8@28.178.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:54] edman007 (n=edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: "fighting ext3" [20:57] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:57] is ext4 better than reiserfs? [20:58] edman007 (n=edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [20:58] i'm alive! [20:59] lol, who put "IRC is not the place for learning the basics" in the /topic? [20:59] edman007: haha, so why does ext3 hate you? [21:00] Kamel (n=1@c-76-123-106-217.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:00] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:01] hwk, well long store, but basically, i have a raid card, it has a big cache, so i also has a battery so it can safely say it completed a write when it is only in the cache, problem is that battery is between a GPU and a raid CPU, it died due to head, a few months ago i was screwing with radeonhd and my system crashed (alpha level driver testing), well that means my raid card couldn't process the writes that it said had already been [21:01] processed, that corrupted by drive and fsck does not know why [21:01] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:02] so every now and then ext3 decided that everything using my drive should crash and it will do it in such a way that fsck can't help me, i think its a form of revenge [21:02] s/decided/decides/ [21:02] s/store/story/ [21:03] _vhargon_ (n=geno@125-237-32-88.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [21:03] edman007: sounds like it could be. computers can do that. [21:03] i really need to reformat the drive, but that is a long and slow process [21:03] and i'm not sure I have enough space [21:04] grazymax (n=grazymax@host198-12-dynamic.26-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:04] ohh I hate that. not enough space to back the stuff up [21:05] yea, maybe i will buy drives and do that [21:05] but i'm cheap and lazy [21:05] haha [21:05] thats why christmas is good [21:06] I got a 500GB HDD for christmas [21:06] NTFS (n=Commuter@c-66-31-116-172.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:06] Slackware likes it up the ass [21:07] lol [21:07] umm [21:07] Slackware likes it up the ass [21:07] jg71 (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:07] jg71 (n=edud@76.74.129.199) joined ##slackware. [21:07] NTFS: its an operating system, you're not meant to have sex with it. [21:08] I call upon the power of the dragonzord [21:10] this is seemingly very familiar for some reason :| [21:10] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.96.76) left irc: "Leaving" [21:10] andarius: ya, he's trolled here before. [21:10] How sexy my ride? [21:10] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrvC-lgTqhk&feature=related [21:10] andarius: i think the same person that when stix came in here and went +o, he /parted before the justice could be done visually from his end. [21:11] ech (n=Me@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: "Use the source, guy" [21:11] Kidpunkx (n=Masterx8@28.178.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:11] How sexy is this ride? [21:11] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttC2qCmAb7Q [21:11] can someone tell me what is wrong in this: http://65.33.178.28/xorg.conf [21:11] vehn_z1 (n=vehn_z@62.133.181.165) joined ##slackware. [21:12] X Display freezes :-( [21:12] use windows [21:12] still [21:12] windows 7 [21:12] NTFS, sftu [21:12] vehn_z (n=vehn_z@62.133.182.189) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:12] Kidpunkx: ignore him [21:13] fuck you [21:13] Kidpunkx refresh rate? [21:13] rworkman, I fixed my webserv so i can cp x [21:13] didn't look at it [21:13] but i'd bet on it [21:13] same idiot used to show up in linode. [21:13] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-33-207.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:13] Mp3, what you mean? aobut refresh rate, SLackware 13.0 [21:14] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttC2qCmAb7Q [21:14] Masterx841 (n=masterx8@28.178.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:14] it used to freeze when there was a misconfigured refresh rate [21:14] lemme see it [21:15] rworkman: NTFS is looking to buy a ticket. [21:15] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@c-66-31-116-172.hsd1.ma.comcast.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:15] NTFS kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Somewhere, there is a kid on a short bus thanking you for making him look intelligent. [21:15] lmao! [21:15] hahaha [21:16] Mp3: I can't see the refreshrate setting at all [21:16] haha [21:16] Kidpunkx: not really see anything wrong with it at the moment. what does your xorg log say? [21:16] look for (EE) and (WW) [21:17] grazymax (n=grazymax@host19-3-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [21:17] yeah [21:17] didn't find it too [21:18] agentc0re, hold up le tme paste that too ugh! what is the path /var...? [21:18] long time since i last used linux [21:18] :) [21:18] vhargon (n=geno@125-237-37-74.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:18] Kidpunkx: /var/log/ [21:19] Kidpunkx: are you using 13.0? [21:19] yeah [21:19] Mp3, haha fair enough, I'm just glad I got XP off this eeepc [21:19] I'm Kidpunkx [21:19] the second long lock ups were just plain irritating [21:19] this is my linux box [21:20] Mp3, well done =) [21:20] you managed to get it working? [21:20] Masterx841: figured as much, i recognized the ip address. [21:20] hfjardim haha, i didn't do anything :P [21:20] Masterx841: have you tried with no xorg.conf? [21:21] ugh!! i have two which one should I copy Xorg.0.log or Xorg.0.log.old [21:21] Kidpunkx: not old [21:21] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [21:22] Mp3, that was supposed to go to hwk I guess [21:22] ah [21:22] ok [21:22] Kidpunkx: how did you create your xorg.conf? [21:22] Kidpunkx: and have you tried starting X without one? [21:23] http://65.33.178.28/Xorg.0.log [21:23] hfjardim: was it? I thought he was talking to Kidpunkx [21:23] agentc0re, not yet do oyu want me to delete xorg.conf? [21:23] i used xorgsetup [21:24] Kidpunkx: you don't have to delete it. you can rename it. [21:24] hwk, that was to anyone that managed to get rid of Windows [21:24] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:24] And got Slackware instead. [21:25] Slackware got YOU [21:25] hfjardim: haha, well I still use windows on my main computer, not out of choice though, I play games on it [21:25] Hrm, never seen this before - (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled. [21:26] Masterx831 (n=masterx8@28.178.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:26] Kidpunkx: ^^ i'd look it up or maybe someone else has some input on it. [21:26] hwk, I'm guilty as well here. I do play my games eventually on it too. [21:27] hwk, as long as your heart belongs to Slackware I suppose it does not matter really. ;) [21:27] i use windows on my rig cause of it too [21:27] hfjardim: and I find dual booting or wine doesn't work well, yes slackware is awesome:P [21:27] Anyone have a system that has a flash cache module (FCM)? [21:28] Mp3, ahh yes, nice of Microsoft to pretty much force us to use their operating system. [21:28] hehehe [21:28] yeah [21:29] Masterx831 (n=masterx8@28.178.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:29] At least XP is cheap [21:29] tried Vista for a while and hated it. [21:29] all the while I was missing linux:P [21:30] i hated vista's guts first time i used it [21:30] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.48.80) left irc: "leaving" [21:31] Mp3: thats exactly why I formatted back to XP. took me a while I hate too much data on the drive and couldn't back it up [21:32] ardya (i=ardy@unaffiliated/ardya) joined ##slackware. [21:32] Vista was a total failure that's why Windows 7 is out now. [21:33] Agreed but I've given up completely on windows vista and 7 [21:33] The Free Software Foundation launched a campaign against already [21:34] ardya (i=ardy@unaffiliated/ardya) left ##slackware ("BitchX: There is no reason."). [21:34] en.windows7sins.org [21:34] lol @ "not out of choice though" i have new for you, you ALWAYS have a choice [21:35] Pig_Pen: I do, true, doesn't mean its the best one, I haven't spent >$200 on video games to not be able to play them [21:35] and some if not all don't work in Wine properly. [21:35] hwh mine X worked out of the box [21:35] i never used xorgsetup or something [21:36] AFAIK: GTA IV doesn't work in wine, mostly thanks to securom or games for windows live I think though [21:36] you could try using a safe driver, like vesa to see it works [21:36] if it works [21:37] I think I'll stick with windows where I know it will work until such time as game makers realise the benefits of making games for linux [21:37] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [21:38] otho (n=otho@unaffiliated/otho) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:38] That and I'd have to repartition my Harddrive which is annoying. [21:38] i installed mine in a vm [21:39] windows? [21:40] Masterx841 (n=masterx8@28.178.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:41] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving." [21:43] Masterx841 (n=masterx8@28.178.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[21:55] hwk, the best firewall is one that prevents you from accessing the net, nothing in or out [21:55] Exactly what I said. [21:55] broken drivers would do that, some modem won't [21:55] nah, you are here [21:55] clearly something got through [21:55] its still slow [21:56] and it was a joke. [21:56] Telstra is pretty dodgy. [21:58] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: "Leaving" [22:00] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [22:00] I just got a credit against my cable account for the whole day. They broke something today and killed internet access while a bunch of charter trucks drove around in circles [22:01] man, i'm melting in here [22:01] 01 am and must be 32ºC [22:01] antiwire, how did they manage that? [22:01] manage what? [22:01] antiwire, hahahaha [22:02] Mp3, thats a good start to the day [22:02] Mp3, wanna come over? its about -6'C [22:02] we can swap for a day [22:03] I've got a pint of Hobgoblin dark ale [22:03] yeah [22:03] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30CBF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [22:03] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.93.152) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:03] antiwire, breaking something that killed internet access? was it a human error equipment malfunction? [22:03] hwk: probably human error [22:04] antiwire, earthquake! [22:04] nah, not this time [22:04] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [22:04] are you sure?!?!? [22:04] antiwire, yeah fair enough. [22:05] maybe it was super localized, blew up your neighbors house and you didn't feel it [22:06] coldcog (n=coldcog@c-98-202-121-136.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:06] that must have been it! [22:06] a micro nuke maybe, too [22:07] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:07] a mini EMP? [22:09] hey everyone [22:09] distrust (n=distrust@69-165-157-207.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [22:09] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [22:09] :) [22:10] grazymax (n=grazymax@host19-3-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:12] grazymax (n=grazymax@host120-23-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [22:17] hwk (n=hwk@CPE-121-214-172-211.lnse3.lon.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [22:17] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.161.28) joined ##slackware. [22:21] how do I use xrandr to put my panel on a different screen? [22:21] I plug in an external and xrandr puts my panel on that screen instead [22:22] mm, I don't think that's xrandr. xrandr controls the entire x session, really - the panel is probably specific to the WM [22:22] can someone help me *properly* use makepkg? every time i make a package with it and installpkg the file it vomits a bunch of crap into / [22:23] make sure your root directory has /usr /lib /etc [22:23] all that good stuff [22:23] when you makepkg [22:23] post us the ls -alh of your package directory [22:23] distrust, huh? it's suppose to put things into / :) I'm guessing the wrong stuff? [22:23] you need to have a structure inside the package directory [22:23] thrice`: yeah, maybe i'm not running it from the right working directory [22:23] I have a feeling you are taking a source tarball, extracting it, running makepkg, and expecting that to be a package? [22:24] :o [22:24] add "compile it" between extracting and running makepkg, and yes [22:24] guess that's wrong huh [22:24] My sarcasm sense is tingly [22:24] ok, that's good :) when you compile it, do you actually go through the make install to a temporary dir? [22:25] no, how do i do that? [22:25] the super-basic procedure is: ./configure -blahblah; make; make DESTDIR=~/my_crap install [22:25] distrust: use a SlackBuild. it makes things much easier [22:25] ahh, DESTDIR, sweet, thank you :) [22:26] cd ~/my_crap; makepkg mypakage-version-arch-1.tgz [22:26] the BEST solution is to use a slackbuild script which does all of that, and more [22:26] sahk0: not everything i use has an available slackbuild [22:26] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-14-172.om.om.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:26] and i'd rather learn how to do this myself, i think it'd be useful for me to learn [22:26] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [22:27] distrust, learn how to make slackbuilds. [22:27] bgeddy (n=ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [22:27] that's the best way [22:27] distrust: thats how people contribute them. they start writing their own for applications for which they dont exist yet [22:27] sounds cool, any good documentation i could read to teach myself that? [22:27] http://www.slackbuilds.org/howto/ [22:28] thank you :) [22:28] http://www.slackwiki.org/Writing_A_SlackBuild_Script [22:28] slackbuilds.org also have a template script in faq [22:29] bgeddy (n=ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Client Quit [22:29] bgeddy (n=ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [22:30] ls [22:30] heh. [22:31] permission denied [22:31] I see. [22:33] d--------- [22:38] good afternoon rworkman antiwire and Dominian [22:39] Hello Sir [22:39] grazymax (n=grazymax@host120-23-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:40] hows the geeky things in life? [22:40] grazymax (n=grazymax@host127-2-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [22:41] Just Geeky! ;-) [22:41] hah nice. [22:41] i'm gonna play with this ARM distro tonight [22:42] see what some company somewhere thinks is good enough to sell, even though its Linux. [22:42] haha [22:42] Action: rworkman pulled the armedslack tree today, planning to install it on a sheevaplug (when I get it) [22:42] (which will probably be next month or so) [22:43] I work with systems like that. We deploy a VoIP box based on Hardhat Linux [22:43] they are PPC though [22:43] RidgeRun (www.ridgerun.com [22:44] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:45] Ephedrax_ (i=1000@AReims-152-1-155-212.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [22:45] bgeddy (n=ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: "Leaving" [22:46] bgeddy (n=ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [22:46] rworkman: openplug? [22:46] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-232-209-34.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:47] I have an incorrectly generated PDF file that has 0 margins and I am having trouble printing it from slackware. okular and gv both print it with literally 0 margin and the printer crops the output. I could not find an option in okular to scale down. What should I do? [22:47] oh, what you gonna do with that? [22:48] gimp ? [22:48] bgeddy (n=ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:48] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:48] the hp printer utility, if you use a hp... [22:49] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.120.107) joined ##slackware. [22:49] it is an hp printer, i am using hpijs [22:49] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [22:50] hp-print [22:50] i think *tests* [22:51] ls -l /usr/bin/hp* nice control over printing pdfs. [22:51] acidchild: sup man [22:51] image printing, fit to page [22:51] thanks for the tip acidchild [22:52] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [22:52] Dominian: watching intervention, yourself? [22:52] acidchild: bored [22:53] acidchild: wife is babysitting [22:53] netox (n=matu@client80-83-42-195.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:53] cool. [22:53] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [22:53] I have this 1TB drive sitting on my desk in an external enclosure and not sure what to do with it [22:53] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [22:54] i got 34MB free....so i've been procrastinating over installing one from the other room. dunno where i could find a SATA cable around... [22:54] acidchild: I'm ordering the sheevaplug from globalscale. I plan to make a router with it. [22:54] hp-print has the same problem [22:54] acidchild: haha [22:54] interesting you bring that up lol. 1TB!!! freedom to be messy [22:54] pi31415: have you tried evince? [22:54] acidchild: I traded some old PC hardware for it [22:54] I'm curious if you can use imagemagick to hack borders on at the command [22:54] Dominian: kewl :) [22:55] acidchild: thinking of shoving a bunch of isos on it [22:55] evince: command not found [22:56] pi31415: right. SlackBuilds.org [22:56] well it is no better on windows. adobe pdf reader has the same problem. foxit can scale down the print job, effectively adding margins [22:57] Action: pi31415 loses interest and falls back to a usb flash drive and foxit on a windows machine [22:57] haha. [22:58] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.49.155) left irc: "Leaving" [22:58] holy crap I made a facebook account and people I haven't seen or talked to in 15 years are befriending me [22:58] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:58] This whole facebook thing is crazy [22:58] lol [22:59] Ephedrax (i=1000@AReims-152-1-152-3.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:59] Dominian: um, lol [22:59] facebook is the new aol [22:59] why ISO [23:00] rather, facebook is the new myspace, which was the new aol [23:00] I've stayed away from up until a about a month ago [23:00] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:00] then I decided to see what would happen [23:00] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [23:01] i joined facebook after reading about a law suit over a scrabble clone on facebook [23:01] acidchild: no idea.. I can't really thinki of anything else to put on it [23:01] i recently installed mt-daapd, and now when i reboot it hangs during samba load..... any ideas how to work around? [23:01] so i started playing wordscraper and hasbro can pound sand [23:02] lol [23:02] Dominian: crap glorious crap [23:02] acidchild: was going to use it as a secondary backup device.. but too lazy to configure bacula [23:02] _Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.93.152) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:04] jg71 (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:04] backup sounds like an awesome idea [23:04] lol [23:04] briareus (n=briareus@ip24-251-35-116.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:04] maybe i should consider that. [23:05] :) [23:05] who's a math wiz in here? [23:06] well I have backups right now going to a separate 500GB drive.. which backups my home machine, my wife's machine (Windows), slackadelic.com, and my mail server [23:06] depends on the area of math :) [23:06] thrice`: primes. [23:06] oh, nothing fun like diff eq? [23:07] thrice`: you lost me at "oh," :P [23:07] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:08] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:10] it is no fun growing old [23:10] Plasmius (i=Plasmius@unaffiliated/plasmastar/bot/plasmius) joined ##slackware. [23:10] jg71 (n=edud@76.74.129.199) joined ##slackware. [23:10] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [23:11] Dominian: is baraduca hard to setup [23:12] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:12] i read in a magazine that you can get a 500gb seagate drive for $55 [23:12] o_O [23:12] wow [23:12] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving." [23:12] i remember thinking it was cheap to get a 500mb drive for $500 [23:12] I bought ram the other day [23:13] Holy crap, it was expensive [23:13] I thought ram was suppose to be cheap by now [23:13] agentc0re: wolfram-alpha for all your math needs [23:13] It was like $30/GB [23:13] redtricycle: it is a roller coaster ride [23:13] I havent bought any computer related thing in 6 years [23:13] and I was expecting sub $20 ram [23:13] =( [23:13] ive never bought a computer [23:13] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] i bought a netbook in 2009 and i love it [23:14] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148522 <-- 750 gb for 59$ ;) [23:14] nice [23:14] Don't get that. [23:14] Recertified?... [23:14] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "hardware is easy, software a bit more complex. people... insanely broken" [23:15] 90 day warranty is short [23:16] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@c-66-31-116-172.hsd1.ma.comcast.net expired. [23:16] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@c-66-31-116-172.hsd1.ma.comcast.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [23:16] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.92.37) joined ##slackware. [23:16] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [23:17] Kidpunkx (n=Masterx8@28.178.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:17] hcfd (n=fed@host86-131-176-115.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [23:19] I plug my power in and press alt-tab, which changed focus to the KDE notification instead of firefox, and then "A Fatal Error Occurred. The application KWin (kwin) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV). [23:20] very easy to reproduce [23:24] when they say write permission to /var/www/htdocs/lsnet/ <--- what command is it? chmod or what? [23:25] google chmod, worth learning.. [23:26] man chmod [23:26] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:26] man chmod is narsty [23:27] and i think i just broke my perl install [23:27] chmod calculator will basically teach you what you want to know at a glance. octal codes ftw. [23:27] not like they're complex anyway :) [23:27] grazymax (n=grazymax@host127-2-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:28] grazymax (n=grazymax@host41-156-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [23:28] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: [23:28] redtricycle: I remember paying $50 for 64 kilobytes and thinking it was a good deal [23:28] read (4), write (2), and execute (1) [23:29] back in my day we talked in bits [23:29] (it *was* a good deal, prices had just come down 30-40%) [23:30] http://gizmodo.com/5445812/why-i-believe-printers-were-sent-from-hell-to-make-us-miserable [23:30] everyone knows it too [23:30] only cheap ones [23:30] haha, the title is so true [23:30] antiwire: I once saw a core memory board, each bit was an electromagnet wound around a fixed magnet, the size of a US quarter... but it was obsolete probably before I was born [23:31] they should use this for shooting pr0n0 http://www.uncrate.com/men/gear/digital-camcorders/ion-twin-video/ [23:32] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:33] that "I hate printers" page sums up perfectly why I don't own a printer... [23:33] haha [23:34] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [23:34] something about the feel of a printer too that just makes shivers go up my spine [23:35] hollow, rickety plastic with no soul [23:35] acidchild: baracuda? [23:35] you should have seen the "printer" I used to use in high school, it was a typewriter with a word processor "attachment" (or a dedicated computer only able to run one app from ROM, using a typewriter as keyboard and printer) [23:35] yah that backup. [23:35] acidchild: ohh bacula [23:36] yap [23:36] acidchild: nah its not bad.. getting some of the syntax down is a pain, but their documentation is really good [23:36] Maphiosomirin (n=xoW@189.70.139.52) joined ##slackware. [23:36] hi someone can help-me ? [23:36] Maphiosomirin: might help to know what the problem is first [23:36] may-be [23:36] 20 questions time? [23:36] i need redirect the port 5900, in entering on ppp0 to one machine with address 192.168.254.253 connected at eth2 [23:36] Nick change: antiwire -> DrStrangeNix [23:37] have idea Dominian ? [23:37] why can't they even produce a printer powerful enough to eject the papaer if it jams anyways? the page is fscked by that point anyways. [23:38] they can't even produce a paper shredder that can avoid jams :( [23:38] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:38] lol so true [23:40] dios_mio (n=test@88.236.179.40) joined ##slackware. [23:40] hai [23:42] Maphiosomirin: if you're using Ubuntu, then why are you asking here? [23:43] unfounded accusation? [23:43] scrote (n=RahmboDe@70.44.195.123.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [23:43] hiya [23:43] rworkman why the rullers must be somes. [23:43] distrust (n=distrust@69-165-157-207.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: "leaving" [23:43] 20:41 < rbscott> there are a bunch of them, out there, which distro are you using? [23:43] anyone play unreal tournament 2004 or doom3? I get no sound. [23:43] 20:41 < Maphiosomirin> ubuntu [23:43] grazymax (n=grazymax@host41-156-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:43] sorry :) [23:43] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:43] Maphiosomirin: man iptables [23:44] Dominian the man its cool, very cool [23:44] i alhead have tried. [23:44] Seriously, how often do I unjustly nail someone's balls to the wall? Sure, it *has* happened, but it's hardly common. [23:44] of course it is hardly common. [23:45] distrust (n=distrust@69-165-157-207.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [23:45] rworkman: I'm still removing the nails... [23:45] gm152 (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:45] Maybe some of the brains at Fedora and Ubuntu should write a decent frontend to iptables instead of trying de-unix linux. [23:45] The-spiki (n=spiki@77-105-33-215.dialup.sezampro.yu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:46] Dominian: but that was an accident. I thought it was unloaded. [23:46] never going to happen. They stopped at the gui frontends for the updater. Got a problem update to latest version is the only solution. [23:46] panzer: seems that way [23:47] and well if you have the version that is six months out of date. Oh no!! you are dirt then [23:47] rworkman: I'm NEVER working on a home improvement project with you again.. especially when its labled with "Operation: Torture" [23:47] haha [23:48] what no flak jacket? 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