[00:01] DESTINATION="/media/IPOD/-/A/Andrew W.K." [00:01] Add the trailing "/" [00:01] looking... [00:03] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-55-52-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:03] where'd Urchlay go? [00:04] he's doin the deed right now. won't be done for, oh, 2 minutes. [00:04] rworkman, the problem is that i need to do this sync from higher up the tree. Source="/media/disk/Music/" Dest="/media/IPOD/-/" and it still drops the '.' when it gets down to Andrew W.K. in the tree [00:05] thrice`: What KMS? link? [00:06] hiptobecubic: what about, rsync --protect-args --human-readable --verbose $SOURCE $DEST ? [00:09] hba, still doesn't copy the last '.' [00:09] LifeForce4 (n=LifeForc@71.199.22.31) left irc: "leaving" [00:10] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:13] hiptobecubic: it seems like its not a problem of rsync, but destination media file system, in this case, vfat(ipod)? [00:13] hba, yes vfat ipod [00:13] hiptobecubic: http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/2002-September/003636.html [00:15] hba, yep there it is. [00:16] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [00:16] hba, although i note that there isn't a solution listed? [00:16] hiptobecubic: eip, it seems so.. [00:17] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:18] hiptobecubic: and what about, rsync --protect-args --human-readable --verbose --include='*.' $SOURCE $DEST ? [00:19] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:22] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat071.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:24] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:25] how do I go back afterward and add additional sets? [00:25] dartmouth: you lookin for me? [00:26] trying to restrain from tossing landlady's PC and laptop out the window [00:26] I want to tell her "dammit woman, you've used windows every day since 2003 and I haven't touched it since 1998, you should know how to do this crap, why are you asking me?" [00:27] dude i just found the coolest way to encrypt text [00:27] rworkman: got the number right, I see. :P [00:27] dartmouth, ROT13? [00:27] lol [00:27] type the letter [00:27] gzip it [00:28] and then base64 the result of cat on the file [00:28] no one will know wtf to do with that [00:28] thats not encryption at all ._. [00:28] Urchlay: is she knocking a few bucks off the rent? [00:28] frullet (n=Bob@124-170-184-165.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:29] martian67: that sounds like encryption to me [00:29] well you need to learn to listen [00:29] :) [00:29] dartmouth, im pretty sure someone with the util "file" can decrypt that [00:30] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [00:30] NaCl: :) [00:30] :o [00:31] mornin' [00:31] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [00:31] well damn [00:31] i have to get a new battery for my cccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc [00:32] wherre's all the cool encryption software in slackbuilds? [00:32] antler: she would be, if I successfully got her laptop to actually print to her printer that's on her desktop [00:32] \ [00:32] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [00:32] nullboy: huh? [00:32] oh damn sorry [00:32] i didn't realize i had focus on this window, sorry [00:33] hunter2 :P [00:33] windows is supposed to be easy, but when you click the shiny little buttons and it doesn't work, you get no useful error messages to try to figure out what's wrong [00:33] tank-man: hey, how'd you know my password was *******? [00:33] lol [00:34] Urchlay: I thought it was [00:36] took half an hour to figure out that the vista laptop's workgroup was different from the XP desktop... microsoft makes extra money for themselves by completely rearranging their UI in unintuitive ways every few years, then selling books and training classes on how to use the new UI, which they only changed in order to make extra money... [00:36] dngr (n=dngr@n112118130203.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [00:37] Urchlay: how about the change from the XP network properties to how Vista does it [00:37] abomination [00:37] nullboy: will madwifi do what we're trying to accomplish with the EAP-TLS? [00:37] chopp: yeah it should [00:38] just compile hostapd with madwifi support and point it to the madwifi sources [00:38] yup, in the middle of trying it now. [00:38] also the help is completely unhelpful [00:38] build madwifi first, then hostapd so you can spec the madwifi libs location [00:38] chopp: ah cool [00:38] eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwew3eeeeeeeeeeeeeewe4wea [00:38] "if windows XP computers don't appear in the vista network map, go here & install this software on the XP machine"... which was already installed [00:39] omfg [00:39] nullboy: you think I'll be allright with madwifi on the AP, and ath5k as the client? [00:39] the 2 PCs are on the same subnet but can't see each other either in the GUI network view stuff or by pinging each other's IP addresses, and that's with the windows firewall turned off on both sides [00:40] chopp: yeah, that's how my AP is right now. AP uses madwifi, client uses ath5k [00:40] nullboy: I'm thinkin you better send that new keyboard back. ;) [00:40] not sure someone who really is an expert on windows would be able to tell why it doesn't work [00:40] yes the new keyboard is clearly a counterfeit one [00:41] this is new, but it's no dell keyboard... [00:41] it's some Chinese knock off [00:41] the key surfaces are scratching and flaking off [00:41] it's a derr? [00:41] benn there, done that. [00:41] been even [00:41] bin there, dump that [00:41] guess mine is too [00:41] (sorry, I had to quote some TV show) [00:42] the surfaces on these keys honestly lasted 2 hours [00:42] then it started flaking off. i'm giving the seller a little email to let him know what i think about this [00:42] nullboy: WOW, time to kick some ebayer ass? [00:42] seriously [00:42] how much was it? [00:43] only 20 bucks, which explains the problem [00:43] what did you buy? [00:43] acidchild: i new keyboard module for my laptop [00:44] a keyboard [00:44] 20$ is a good price, whats the issue? [00:44] you got scammed? :< [00:44] acidchild: supposedly "New Dell D620 keyboard"....well it is new, but it's not Dell keyboard. the key surfaces are already flaking off [00:44] oh [00:44] :| [00:45] the key surface or the lettering? [00:45] it's a "New Counterfeit Dell D620 keyboard" [00:45] acidchild: the keysurface [00:45] nullboy: so there is a notable difference to a factury-made? [00:45] damn, the lettering comming off is good [00:45] =P [00:45] lowkyalur: well yeah, the original one lasted 5 years.... [00:45] this one started flaking off after 2 hours [00:45] thats fucked up :-| [00:45] what was the point in even producing the keyboard. [00:46] exactly [00:46] it might be that it really is a dell. They may have outsourced that stuff to the lowest bidder [00:46] i got owned. i paid 20 bucks for a piece of shit fake keyboard [00:46] heh, you've been typing for >5 years and you still need to look at the key labels? [00:46] Urchlay: looking at the keys isn't the point. [00:46] no, I know. It's a piece of crap [00:46] so it is the labels, not the keys... [00:46] the point is they are flaking off. [00:46] nullboy: now an unmarked keyboard is even more l337 than one with "cheat marks" [00:47] nullboy: does the function of the keyboard work? [00:47] just saying, it doesn't mean it's counterfeit. It really might be that all new dell keyboards are being made that way now [00:47] acidchild: it's the top level surface. keys all work fine and feel good but the surface is flaking off [00:47] i'd scrape the transfers off... :-P [00:47] nullboy: scrub them off :-) [00:47] and put weird fucked up symbols on them insted :D [00:47] i'm going to use acetone to clear them off [00:47] fuck it [00:48] yeah, put Klingon on there [00:48] yep do it! [00:48] =) [00:48] yes! [00:48] lol [00:48] http://www.amazon.com/Das-Keyboard-DASKIIIULT-Ultimate/dp/B001DYTS00 [00:48] or the weird alphabet you see on screens in the star wars movies [00:48] because they don't have the letters on they charge you 50$ more for the keyboard. [00:48] lowkyalur: I have that one (well the II actually) [00:49] the original reason for buying a new keyboard module was because the original one was extremely used and a few of the keys no longer worked reliably. [00:49] i used the hell out of it [00:50] nullboy: http://www.datacal.com/dce/custom-overlays.htm [00:50] :D [00:50] lowkyalur: http://michielvwessem.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/daskeyboard.jpg [00:50] oh shit nice! [00:50] :) [00:50] some people change/over lay them because they have custom keys for audio and 3D CGI programs.. [00:51] yeah like those crazy post production keyboards [00:51] dude, have them all diffrent colours =P [00:51] http://www.datacal.com/control-panel.htm [00:52] the One True Keyboard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_M_Keyboard [00:53] I wish they made keyboards in laptops with the same switches as the model m [00:53] yeah [00:53] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:53] my girlfriend is just singing "jiggypuff.. jiggypuff.. jiggypuff.. jiggypuff.. jiggypuff.. jiggypuff.." [00:53] over and over from the sofa [00:54] Action: acidchild gets rope and knife! [00:54] I have some Model M "Space Saver" keyboards (missing the numeric keypad), used to carry one around in my giant laptop bag [00:54] antd (n=antd@c-75-75-183-107.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:54] but my giant laptop bag was so heavy I got sick of carrying it around, so never had it when I needed it... [00:54] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:54] twolf: so it sounds like a freaking teletype when you're in a coffee shope [00:54] shop* [00:55] haha. [00:55] http://railroad-signaling.com/tty/M19.jpg [00:55] like that [00:55] i need a new keyboard... if i bang this one on the desk, half an ashtray falls out. [00:55] what difference does the sound make? nobody in the starbucks is having a conversation anyway, unless it's on IM or a cel phone. They all congregate in one room and then ignore each other [00:55] lol [00:55] i hate them losers. [00:55] Urchlay: yeah it's called playing coy, it's all the rage [00:56] get off my lawn [00:56] Starbucks is lame [00:56] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_Time [00:56] ^^ rofl [00:56] ghettooo [00:56] acidchild: I had a malfunctioning keyboard I tried that with, and not only did cigarette butts fall out, but also peanut shells and bits of hotdog... lesson learned: never loan a keyboard to that guy again [00:56] hahaha yeah :P [00:56] Urchlay: mines gross :-( [00:57] I mean *rotting meat* was in the keyboard when I got it back [00:57] hahaha [00:57] ew. [00:57] and I can only *hope* the yellow stains on some of the keys were mustard [00:58] :| [00:58] sounds like one of my old co-workers. [00:58] however... put on gloves, disassembled, cleaned it out, and it was fine [00:58] you could follow trails to his desk from the cafe. [00:58] there was a massive ketchup hotdog stain in the old network core room on the raised floor [00:58] its been there for atleast a year now. [00:59] and under the raised floor you find all these cig butts. [00:59] yeesh [00:59] from the 'early' days of the datacenter... [00:59] i saw the 'first room' where it was started, them white fake ceilings? not so white.. more brown. [00:59] I mean I smoke and all, but not in datacenters [01:00] bah, i smoke still in some parts of the datacenter... but i throw away my butts... the A/C is crazy powerful. [01:00] (hell, if I work in a place like that, I *want* to smoke outside, to get away from everything for a couple minutes) [01:00] i need a binary to text conversion tool [01:00] i still live in the datacenter :< [01:00] cat(1) [01:00] dartmouth: MSOffice? [01:01] dartmouth: hexdump ? [01:01] binary not hex [01:01] unpack(); [01:02] what kind of binary? [01:02] 8 digit [01:02] http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/unpack.html [01:02] dartmouth, uuencode or yenc can do that [01:03] you mean you have a string of ASCII 1 and 0 characters? [01:03] that'd be plain ascii? [01:03] ya [01:04] acidchild: quit trying to teach me perl lol [01:04] yeah, perl unpack would work. [01:05] where did you actually manage to find a string of ASCII 1 and 0 characters? [01:06] up nullboy's bum [01:06] the 0's act like beads, and the 1's are the string that holds them together? [01:06] acidchild: actually.. [01:06] you know it baby [01:06] (ugh, what a disgusting mental image) [01:06] i like binary butt balls [01:06] :| [01:07] is that like anal beads? [01:07] sort of [01:07] but much much faster [01:07] Tagami (n=Winter@72-160-220-139.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [01:07] is there a stronger tool than base64 in the base? [01:07] 1-0-1-1-0-0-1-1-0-0-1---o [01:07] ? [01:07] "stronger"? [01:07] the 1's must hurt.. [01:07] stronger encryption [01:07] dartmouth: crypt(); [01:07] :> [01:07] omfg [01:08] base64 is not encryption [01:08] Action: dartmouth looks for something heavy to club acidchild with [01:08] dartmouth: crypt($string,$salt); [01:08] dude [01:08] its like [01:08] and crypt() is not reversible :) [01:08] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426051.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:08] its a form of hashing i know. [01:09] dartmouth: you could use gpg to actually encrypt something with a real crypto algorithm [01:09] that would be nice [01:09] (something someone else could decrypt I mean, if you gave them the correct password) [01:10] my $TEST_TEXT = $gpg->encrypt("TEST_TEXT",$key_id); [01:10] dartmouth: ^^ [01:10] Action: acidchild runs [01:10] but I haven't actually used gpg from the command line in so long, I can't just rattle off a command for you to use. "man gpg" is your friend [01:10] gpg --encrypt STDIN [01:10] or you can pipe in to it. [01:11] gpg --encrypt file.txt [01:11] hr, don't you have to set up a public/private keypair first, or else specify shared-key encryption, or something? [01:11] yep, gpg --gen-key [01:11] "Enter the user ID. End with an empty line: " [01:12] yeah whats this userid shit [01:12] you will see once you generate a key. [01:12] Action: dartmouth wishes alienbob would do an encryption workshop for everyone like he did with networking [01:12] you can have multi users, but your default is set in .gnupgp/gnupgp.conf [01:13] dartmouth: good idea, i'll do that :> [01:13] Action: acidchild finds his mic. [01:13] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:13] Action: dartmouth patiently awaits the text dictation of that workshop [01:14] haha i was gonna make a youtube video. [01:14] xvidcap is wicked :-) [01:14] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:15] i couldn't get my webcam to work [01:15] something with the driver [01:15] it would recognize the cam but all i could get was a scrambled image [01:15] acidchild?... youtube video?.... pron? [01:16] Action: dartmouth puts away the menthol creme [01:16] Action: hba better goes to bed.. [01:16] hr, right, you can also use openssl from the command line [01:16] knowing acidchild.. its something interesting [01:17] openssl des3 -e -in filename -out encryptedfile [01:17] better not forget the password you used, though [01:17] then to decrypt, the -e becomes a -d [01:18] can also add -base64 to the commands, if you need to base64 the encrypted data (and un-base64 before decrypting) [01:18] i thought base64 WAS encryption [01:18] no, it's encoding [01:19] dartmouth: gspca that comes with slackware doesnt work for me either. i got the originial one which works oke [01:19] well i guess it's more of a cryptogram [01:19] so is rot13 [01:19] base64 just transforms the data without actually obscuring it at all [01:19] hba (n=hba@189.188.198.98) left irc: "leaving" [01:20] any idiot can un-base64 it, no need for a password or anything [01:20] what i do is i set a loop to keep rebase64'ing it until its a huge ass file [01:21] technically that's encryption, too. the password is the offset (like in rot13 "13") or the number base you're using. ASCII is in that way also an encryption because it turns text into digits:) [01:21] ...then what, you run a loop to keep zipping it until it shrinks down to one byte? :) [01:21] but that's the one's you learn to crack in primary school [01:21] lowkyalur: a cryptogram is not very good encryption [01:21] lowkyalur: yeah... but it's not what most people mean when they ask "how do I encrypt a file?" [01:22] i want something i can send to nasa and they go 'wtf is this?' [01:22] "crypt" means "secret" in what, Greek? there's nothing secret about base64 or rot13 [01:22] http://gailly.net/05533051.html [01:23] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.7.104) joined ##slackware. [01:23] yay, patents that violate the laws of thermodynamics [01:23] dartmouth: you could send a random sequence to nasa. or some seti@home file. [01:24] the seti@home data possibly passed thru NASA's network before you got it... [01:24] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat071.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [01:25] _guitarman_ (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [01:25] Urchlay: do a ++ on it.. [01:26] haha [01:26] what i could do [01:26] is write a message in a c++ that isn't actually called [01:26] and then convert the binary to ASCII [01:26] *in a c++ function [01:26] bluejeans (n=bluejean@63.150.132.130) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:27] Action: dartmouth now has a new mission of playing a joke on nasa [01:29] heh, why don't you pry some of those heat-resistant tiles off the shuttle? that's always good for a laugh, right? [01:30] Urchlay: they are glued to it with chewing gum. will be a hard mission. [01:30] haha.. [01:30] hey, I know, why don't you set up your own space agency, send a rocket to the moon, and paint "NASA SUCKS" on the dark side of the moon in 100-mile-tall letters? [01:31] yeah that kind of made me sick to my stomach a little [01:31] or maybe "E.T. WAS HERE" [01:31] dude. if i made it through a shuttle mission [01:31] Urchlay, if he does that on the dark side of the moon, nobody will see it ! >< [01:31] and found out some dude pried off one of the heat resistant tiles to play a joke on me [01:32] i can pretty much gaurantee a pack of the world's finest airmen were going to be involved in a smackdown [01:32] well, you don't have to pry off any tiles anyway. They fall off all by themselves... [01:33] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426051.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:33] chance22 (n=chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:33] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426051.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:33] Camarade_Tux: so you paint it in uranium-based paint that glows in the dark? I'm not really a detail man, you know... [01:33] i tell you what tho if i had shell access to an internet accessable satellite..... [01:33] well then i'd have some fun. lol. [01:34] antd (n=antd@c-75-75-183-107.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:34] although i always wondered if i could pipe /dev/random to seti@home.... [01:34] heh, that's what the aliens are doing [01:35] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@nat071.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [01:35] piping their alien random number generators into their alien radio transmitters, to mess with our minds [01:35] what would be even cooler is if I built a huuuuuge cabletv transmitter when shit goes digital [01:35] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat071.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:35] something I always wondered about [01:36] yup0 [01:36] its bound to happe [01:36] if you have analog cable TV, and you had a powerful enough transmitter [01:36] Action: dartmouth gets taken away by men in suits [01:36] Urchlay, still, it's better to paint it on the bright side of the moon but you have to use something dark then [01:36] would you be able to inject your own analog cable signal into the cable network? [01:36] white suits. [01:36] (not in a sexual way) [01:37] ...so at least your neighbors would see whatever you want, instead of what the cableco sends out? [01:37] on the other hand, uranium-based paint on the dark side of the moon would be visible to mars shuttles :) [01:37] dartmouth: still want that howto? :P [01:37] i made it :> [01:37] mars shuttles... somehow I don't think NASA can design/build a shuttle that would make it all the way to mars [01:37] acidchild: yes please [01:38] mpeg okey? [01:38] 20M [01:38] Urchlay: the way _to_ mars is not the issue:) [01:38] you'd be better off forgetting the whole shuttle thing and going back to the Apollo-era tech [01:38] acidchild: if that howto is actually encrypted I might take a trip to the uk to tell you about american manners ^_^ [01:38] mars shuttles will appear one day or another so it's better to be prepared :p [01:38] dartmouth: who says i'm in the UK? [01:39] Camarade_Tux: like "bring a big gun to nuke the martians on sight?" [01:39] :> [01:39] acidchild: i just assumed you weren't using a shell [01:39] i'm not :-P [01:39] Apollo and Saturn V designs *worked*, none of this silly "10 trillion dollar spacecraft destroyed by a crappy 50-cent O-ring" stuff [01:39] Camarade_Tux, mars? if its from Mars its made by humans [01:39] dartmouth: my IP whois is my address ;) [01:39] Urchlay: German engineering, huh? [01:39] acidchild: i can't see it, it's just a hostname suffi [01:39] suffix& [01:39] wtf ii cant type [01:39] maybe. Hm, did Volkswagen ever make a space capsule? [01:39] 'dig' :-P [01:40] lowkyalur, nah : have a big message written on the dark side of the moon so it is visible from the shuttles :) [01:40] http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/A/audi/A2/03-large/00-audi-a2-hif3q.jpg does that count? [01:40] Action: dartmouth wonders if he could get into trouble for playing with his wireless nic at the hardware level [01:40] doesn't look spaceworthy to me [01:41] doesn't even really look roadworthy [01:41] upload... 4minutes remaining :{ [01:41] acidchild: lemme know when you have a link [01:41] (but no car made after about 1979 really looks like a car to me anyway) [01:41] nullboy: I don't know exactly what it is I'm doing wrong with this, but I GIVE UP!!! [01:41] Camarade_Tux: i would go "10000km to Vegas. Beteigeuzean Credits welcome" [01:41] EAP-PSK will have to suffice. [01:42] so where are all the cool, james-bondy jobs in the military with linux? [01:42] my recruiter is a bad person to ask lol [01:42] there's a car: http://www.chooseyouritem.com/classics/photos/125500/125657.jpg [01:42] one of those guys told me a couple years ago I could play guitar for the marines [01:42] so im all set on that [01:42] dartmouth: they send you to baghdad, and the linux part will be "there is no reboot" [01:43] lowkyalur: lol [01:43] Buggaboo (n=bug@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [01:43] Urchlay: at least got a gas mileage like the Saturn V i reckon [01:43] looks exactly like my first car, except mine didn't shine so much [01:43] dartmouth: mplayer http://dubstep.7a69.co.uk/~ash/gnupgp-quickhowto.mpeg [01:43] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:43] really though you'd think they'd advertise those kinds of jobs if they had them [01:43] and there were a lot more dents [01:43] dartmouth: 77% uploaded [01:44] haha and i called you darkmouth rofl. typoes <3 [01:44] and the driver's side door had to be duct-taped shut [01:44] lowkyalur, don't forget to say it's a strip club, that should boost the sales a lot >< [01:44] acidchild: you are the ugliest human being I have ever seen. [01:44] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:44] :< [01:45] lol im so j/k people it doesn't show his face [01:45] i was expecting a 'leave britney alone' type howto [01:45] lowkyalur: the gas mileage didn't matter so much on my '79 monte carlo, because the odds were, some other part of the car would break long before I ran out of gas... [01:45] hey is that upload done yet? [01:45] also do you mind if I host it on gnodes.org? [01:46] its finished uploading. [01:46] sure... [01:46] sweeet [01:47] acidchild: what did you use to make that? [01:47] Urchlay: lol [01:47] xvidcap [01:47] allright thanks [01:48] troys (n=troys@68.165.100.2) left irc: "Leaving" [01:48] to me, though, that body style is what my mind thinks of by default when someone says "car" [01:48] p.s. since when did mit endorse bob dobbs? http://web.mit.edu/dryfoo/www/SubG/index.html [01:48] it takes a sort of mental effort to force myself to recognize a Geo or a Kia as belonging to the same class of objects [01:48] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:49] p.s.s. wtf is wrong with my xine? [01:49] i don't know? [01:49] ffmpeg does capture too :) [01:49] xvidcap you can set what part of your screen you wish to capture :-) pretty neat. [01:49] http://pastebin.com/m4511e707 [01:50] acidchild: hm, is it smart enough to accept a window by its title, and only capture the contents of that window? [01:50] i dont even know what that means [01:50] Urchlay: you can resize the frame :-) [01:51] acidchild, think I'm gonna try xvidcap then ;) [01:51] Action: Camarade_Tux off to school [01:51] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [01:51] yeah, as long as I don't *have to* resize the frame to exactly the size/location of the one window I want to capture... [01:51] Urchlay: another Porsche design (the guy who did the Beetle) http://www.whq-forum.de/cms/uploads/pics/tiger_10.jpg Porsche Typ 101 [01:51] rki (n=rki@unaffiliated/rki) left ##slackware. [01:52] acidchild: xvidcap looks cool. Did you make a slackbuild of it yet? [01:52] lowkyalur: that might possibly get worse mileage than my old car [01:52] chopp: i'm using arch :-P [01:52] ahh [01:52] did that video help anyone? :| [01:52] (or not. I guess that tank runs on diesel) [01:52] or is dartmouth the only stupid enough not able to google? [01:52] hehe [01:52] Urchlay: lol, most of the time they were driven backwards (Central Ukraine to Berlin)... [01:53] lol [01:53] right, 4 reverse gears and only one forward (just in case) [01:53] Action: dartmouth is finding a very...."bob-esque" laugh at this... [01:55] heh? [01:56] Buggaboo (n=bug@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: "A wank a day, keeps the frustrations away" [01:56] eelriver (n=eelriver@67.102.106.32) joined ##slackware. [01:56] huh? [01:57] http://pastebin.com/m2cdb7530 <---- ?! [01:57] this is not good [01:57] i have broken something [01:57] xine blows cock. [01:57] vlc or mplayer all the way [01:57] yes. mine. [01:57] no, it seems to be raping you analy atm [01:58] Action: dartmouth likes xine better [01:58] newb [01:58] =] [01:58] hah [01:58] bleahgh [01:58] wtf [01:58] xine... [01:58] i've been using xine for two years now [01:58] and your brain for 2days :D [01:58] Action: lowkyalur is off to work. Take good care. [01:58] have fund [01:58] -d [01:58] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAq7KxwpTXY [01:58] youtubed! [01:58] =] [01:58] lol [01:59] dive: i'd also take fund. [01:59] not from me you won't ;) [01:59] $*#&*@ing crisis. [01:59] dude i need xine to work [02:00] i use it for everything [02:00] rm -rf ~/.xine [02:00] even pr9n [02:00] and start xine, force it to rebuild its config files. [02:00] it's not my favorite. it's so damn slow. but it does work [02:00] 'frest start' [02:00] dartmouth, seriously man - mplayer and vlc will play everything [02:00] ok i removed ~/.xine/ [02:00] and then ran xine [02:00] and..? [02:00] and it did the same thing [02:01] okey well your install is fucked. [02:01] :) [02:01] xiTK [02:01] i dont even know what that is [02:01] xine had exactly one use (DVD navigation support) until mplayer just recently got its own DVD nav support [02:01] delete all its user config files. [02:01] troys (n=troys@68.165.100.2) joined ##slackware. [02:01] dude you're just trying to get me to erase my xine setup lol [02:01] ... [02:01] wtf [02:01] no, i'm ment to say 'wtf' [02:03] but above you said you did remove your xine setup [02:03] "ok i removed ~/.xine/" [02:03] myrick[on] (n=admin@78.46.76.138) joined ##slackware. [02:04] he removed his configs for xine. [02:04] and if xine is still broken with a 'default' (maybe ~/.gxine needs removing) then its his install or setup [02:04] i saw setup as a syn. for config [02:04] which he's a dumbass PBKAC situation. [02:05] and should removepkg *xine* and reinstall [02:05] and/or 'ldd' xine [02:06] im in current with compiz running if that means anything [02:06] means your a newb [02:06] Action: dartmouth also thinks the -current xfce is a little buggy [02:06] no, im just stupid [02:06] <--- cpunches [02:09] fuck it ill just install totem [02:09] omg [02:09] but I AM NOT HAPPY [02:09] totem is worse than xine.. [02:09] install mplayer and be silent [02:10] i dont like mplayer [02:10] i like xine [02:10] why the hell now? [02:10] NOT [02:10] what difference is there typibg 'mplayer' than 'xine'? [02:11] xine is shorter to type [02:11] no it just works better [02:11] alias mp='mplayer' [02:11] okey alias x='mplayer $1' [02:12] dartmouth, apparently not!! [02:12] alias bear="mplayer http://66.244.221.250/cfbr" [02:12] dartmouth, seriously though, if you find a bug in xine in -current you should explore that and report it to the devs [02:13] i will have to, but i really just want to veg out tonight with my bottle of orloft and watch old movies [02:13] because im at that drunk point where i can feel myself being aggressive lol [02:13] chopp, what is that? [02:14] a good rock station in Edmonton [02:15] The Paul Brown Show [02:15] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:15] yup :p [02:15] I could do with some ambient this time of the morn [02:15] just woke up after a good nights drink [02:16] eve better _ a list of stations would be good [02:16] Action: dartmouth by the way i have a dropline build system that seems to be working for -current... [02:16] ... [02:16] dive: you're just jealous [02:16] hm. Do Dell LCD monitors actually have a giant DELL logo on the back, near the top? [02:17] rofllmfao [02:17] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@nat071.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Connection timed out [02:17] watching silly TV show, guy is facing camera, typing on computer, monitor facing him [02:18] the back of the monitor has giant DELL logo. Was it put there strictly for product placement, or do those monitors really have a logo in the back (where the user can't even see it)? [02:18] much better than monitor facing away from him. that's a russia thing. [02:18] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-145-63.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [02:18] Action: dive :headbangs: [02:18] mosh!! [02:18] chopp, heh nice station [02:19] blu3lab (n=whoami@189-015-224-158.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [02:19] blu3lab (n=whoami@189-015-224-158.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left ##slackware. [02:19] got some old tapes I need find some CDs for though.. must dig out tapes [02:19] dive: The Bear has been my favorite for years. [02:20] this show's kinda dumb anyway (Dollhouse) [02:21] ah compulsion - that was the band I was trying to think of [02:21] Hi Guys .. anyone know why there isn't window decorations in kcontrol after installing dekorator ? 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[02:41] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [02:42] dive: thats the only one I listen too, and I did this along time ago. I remember there being tons of them available though. [02:43] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-55-52-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [02:43] so uhh [02:43] I use to use winamp some years back - it had a few radio and video stations [02:43] that xvidcap slackbuild is broken i guess [02:44] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-71-168-128-240.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) got netsplit. [02:44] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) got netsplit. [02:44] bbeecher1 (n=bbeecher@cpe-74-72-194-84.nyc.res.rr.com) got netsplit. [02:44] eelriver (n=eelriver@67.102.106.32) got netsplit. [02:44] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) got netsplit. [02:44] t (i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) got netsplit. [02:44] j0z (n=UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) got netsplit. [02:44] slackbuild from where? [02:44] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) joined ##slackware. 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[02:50] eelriver (n=eelriver@67.102.106.32) got lost in the net-split. [02:50] it should give the line number according to that sb [02:51] hi... i have little experience in linux, i`m learning now... which use X the moment ? i do not want to use KDE [02:51] slackmag1c (n=magician@pool-173-57-58-121.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [02:52] fireking, there are an [02:52] guh [02:52] dive, guh ? [02:52] fireking, there are many X de/wm's to use in slack - type xwmconfig and choose [02:52] fireking: KDE runs on top of X. you're looking for a different desktop environment or may be a different window manager [02:53] fireking, yeah sorry - guh = my typing crapped out cos of enter key :) [02:53] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [02:53] dive, hum.. ok. [02:54] backspace is too near return [02:54] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD888EB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:54] nullboy, yes... 'm looking for a window manager such as blackbox... [02:54] morning [02:54] need coffee [02:55] dive: nullboy has an keyboard you can have. [02:55] fireking, run 'xwmconfig' in a terminal and choose [02:55] lmao [02:55] fireking: I would recommend fluxbox [02:55] yeah fluxbox > blackbox imo too [02:55] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:56] morning slackytude [02:56] humm.. [02:56] heya dive ^-^ [02:56] dive, thanks... [02:56] Hi slackytude. How are you doing? [02:56] coffee is good, but first I need finish this hair of the dog [02:56] well might as well [02:56] nullboy: it really really frustrates me I can't get that EAP-TLS going. :( [02:56] oi firebird619, doing fine, altho Im at work :( and I overslept as well. but boss aint here, so no worries. [02:57] firebird619, how are you doing? [02:57] duryodhan, humm.. fluxbox i saw [02:57] I kinda passed out with one glass of wine left in the bottle - and have a meeting with job man at 11 [02:57] slackytude: doing great. thank you. [02:57] dive, finish the dog hair? you mean brush it? [02:57] duryodhan i don`t like [02:58] slackytude, eh? hair of the dog = slang for a little more alcohol after a night on the stuff [02:58] fireking: ok [02:58] fireking: fluxbox http://www.casebliss.com/tmp/screenshot.jpg [02:58] dive, ah, alrite, I was kinda worried [02:59] chopp, nice... [02:59] fireking, #slackware.br [02:59] dive, no work today? [03:00] I'm between jobs [03:00] thats good? [03:00] i.e. nope not working :( [03:00] not really good at all [03:00] ok, then [03:00] ah, thats bad [03:00] chopp: If I may ask, which terminal are you using on your desktop in that screenshot? [03:01] firebird619: Eterm [03:01] chopp: got a link to that wally? love that flamey effect off the hand [03:02] chopp: Ok, I've been trying to get the same thing with aterm, but it wasn't working. Thanks. [03:02] http://www.casebliss.com/tmp/hand.png [03:02] chopp, I took your desktop background and centred it ;p [03:03] dive: cool [03:03] using it atm in xfce [03:03] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) joined ##slackware. [03:03] hi [03:03] chopp: thanks [03:03] I really ought set fluxbox up though [03:03] chopp: whats the weather and system stats called? [03:03] i'm trying to install slackware 10 in a pentium 1 with 32 ram [03:03] slackmagic: you're welcome [03:03] I feel kind of cheap using xfce.. [03:03] it has a network card rtl 8010 chipset ISA [03:03] ifconfig -a dont show the iface [03:03] and very dirty indeed if I were to use kde [03:04] chopp, thats conky in the lower left corner? [03:04] i have a chance to install by nfs ? [03:04] maybe some 'trick' ? [03:04] frullet: weather is "adesklets", and the sys monitor is "conky". [03:04] Patzy (n=somethin@88.174.11.170) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:05] chopp: thanks mate [03:05] dive, hey xfce is nice [03:05] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Connection timed out [03:05] slackytude, yeah but flux is nicer imo [03:05] Srbo (i=1000@p4FE909EA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [03:05] <------- fluxbox user too [03:06] It was my first desktop in slack/linux [03:06] xfce was the shit until i switched to -current [03:06] but then I cam from bb4win in windoze [03:06] mmm i wish i could get bbedit for linux lol [03:07] i prefer windowmaker :) [03:07] dartmouth, you will get used to the new xfce [03:07] dive: i bastardize my xfce anyway [03:07] just remember you can't rightclick desktop for apps [03:07] and now make you own .desktop files [03:07] but what about FVWM? :) [03:08] what about OMGWTFBBQ [03:08] I WANT BBQ [03:08] except it's like 8am [03:08] and I don't have a garden [03:08] http://www.gnodes.org/images/screenshots/osx-leopard-xfce-compiz-2 [03:08] but apart from that [03:09] oops [03:09] http://www.gnodes.org/images/screenshots/osx-leopard-xfce-compiz-2.png [03:09] The requested URL /images/screenshots/osx-leopard-xfce-compiz-2 was not found on this server. [03:09] ah theres a png on the end ;p [03:10] why would anybody want to have leopard looks? [03:10] dartmouth, dude.. knapshot?? 'import desk.png' [03:11] because my real leopard can't get internet access until SOMEONE writes a driver for my wifi card that will let it go into promisc mode [03:11] leopard tights went out with the 70's [03:11] dartmouth, thats a xfce theme that looks like a mac? [03:11] slackboy: i have os9 too [03:11] tab fail [03:11] http://www.gnodes.org/images/screenshots/os9-clone.png [03:11] aye [03:12] tab 192912 dartmouth 0 [03:12] ugh, I can see your myspace page [03:12] there are mac themes for xfce and kde.. but the kde one fails [03:13] I almost fixed the kde theme but was defeated by rounded window corners [03:13] http://zip.4chan.org/k/src/1239682848837.jpg [03:13] lol [03:13] why make a theme that mimics rounded window corners until you move the window??! what a larf [03:13] Zordrak (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:14] nullboy, nice but a bit too full in the thighs ;-) [03:14] haha [03:15] yikes she looks like my ex [03:15] Action: dartmouth becomes sick and dreary, and now needs to drink until he sleeps [03:15] dartmouth, going from 12.2 to -current eh? [03:16] dive: oh i did that a long time ago [03:16] dartmouth, we want pics of your -current wag [03:16] wag? [03:16] pics or it didn't happen [03:16] wtf is a wag? [03:16] is that street slacker term for vag? [03:16] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [03:16] wag = Wives And Girlfriends [03:16] oh [03:16] no fuck that [03:16] she doesn't exist. [03:17] nah it's really aimed at footballers wives and g/f's [03:17] the wag club [03:17] (but if she did I would hate her) [03:17] ;-) [03:17] the palm sisters? [03:17] dear mrs T and her four lovely sisters [03:17] redtricycle1 (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-160-131.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [03:18] no, more like the 'rip my guts out in public for months because you like making your fiance suffer and then leave with all my stuff after I get tired of it' sisters. [03:18] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426051.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:18] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426051.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:18] f***ing c*nt [03:19] mrs t and her sisters = mrs thumb and four fingers ;) [03:19] ie he palm sisters [03:19] you can't raise your voice like that when the lion is arround [03:19] eek. sorry. [03:20] forgot which server this is [03:20] Action: dartmouth goes back to burning faces on pictures with lit cigarettes [03:22] just be glad you don't have a son with "the bitch" like me. [03:23] ouch [03:23] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.148.195.117) left irc: "Saliendo" [03:23] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.148.195.117) joined ##slackware. [03:24] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:24] nah it's cool. i've accepted that there's a crazy switch in those ones that flips right after the weight of family building kicks in mentally, and that there's no way to unflip it. ever. they will forever be nuts after that. [03:24] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [03:24] dartmouth, some were nuts before but it's hard to tell [03:25] chopp: did she drag you around a courthouse? [03:25] with like [03:25] false reports and stuff? [03:25] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [03:26] no but I'll be taking HER to court as soon as I get back to work. [03:26] redtricycle1 (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-160-131.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Leaving." [03:26] haha [03:26] fair enough [03:26] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.128.167) joined ##slackware. [03:27] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Client Quit [03:27] nah she made up some funny lies that messed with me hardcore; she even got me fired from a couple jobs [03:28] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [03:29] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.132.141) joined ##slackware. [03:30] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Client Quit [03:30] http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1242871&site_id=1#import [03:32] nullboy, ? [03:34] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night"). [03:37] pirates [03:37] http://www.icc-ccs.org/index.php?option=com_fabrik&view=visualization&controller=visualization.googlemap&Itemid=219 [03:39] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:40] Anakin (n=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [03:40] ninjas are cooler anyway [03:41] string him up to the yardarm [03:41] arrrr [03:43] god must stay awake for next 2 hours at least.. [03:44] oh dude [03:44] or no jobbies for me.. [03:44] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:44] hmm [03:44] was even thinking of volunteer work [03:45] might be worth a look [03:45] any of you guys know a good domain name registrar? [03:46] i don't want hosting, just the ability to point a domain name at any IP i want [03:46] want/own [03:46] own/lease [03:46] depends on the suffix don'it it? [03:46] dyndns [03:46] why not dyndns? [03:46] ah [03:46] Strykar: they do actual domain registration? [03:46] i doubt that [03:46] nope [03:47] yes, not all TLDs [03:47] they do http://www.dyndns.com/services/domains/ [03:47] sweet [03:48] don't you have people like nominet for domain registration? why go through 3rd party? [03:48] nominet handle all .uk names for example [03:48] must be one similar for .com .org.. [03:49] icann, no? [03:49] maybe no idea [03:49] as far as i know we have to register through a registrar that is icann accredited/approved [03:50] i don't think normal users can register directly with icann [03:50] hmm over here we can apply direct to nominet [03:50] dive, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICANN and he wants to update dns at will [03:50] i think dyndns will be the best bet anyway [03:50] they give you dns record access [03:50] they're rock solid [03:50] I've had great service with sibername. [03:51] yeah to update dns then probably someone like dyndns [03:51] yeah, i use dyndns for my dynamic IP to hostname but i didn't know they did registration [03:51] that's sweet [03:51] nor did I, thats cool. [03:51] linode time nullboy? [03:52] soon [03:52] \o/ [03:52] i just need a domain name so i can actually, "for reeelz", play with email and certificates [03:52] Action: dive breaks chopp's arms [03:52] [03:53] dive: why you little [03:53] i'm sick of this "wtf do i put for the CN crap" since i don't own a domain name [03:53] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:54] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:54] didn't work for me anyway. :( [03:54] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:54] lol [03:54] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166039060.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:54] what i want is to own a domain name so i can setup true proper DNS [03:54] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166039060.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:55] so then i have valid FQDNs for my hosts [03:55] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166039060.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:55] probably something simple but fsck. I was up all night yesterday till about 2:00pm fscking with it. NO MORE! [03:56] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:56] do you think 22 characters for a domain name is too long? [03:57] only if you plan on using it [03:57] :) [03:57] abcdefghijklmnopqrstuv [03:57] Not really. [03:57] abcdefghijklmnopqrstuv.com [03:57] wheres the numbers :) [03:58] 123456789012345678901.com [03:58] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [03:58] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:59] why so many characters? [03:59] cause its also his password [03:59] because it's two words long and the total number of characters is 22? [04:00] is it easy to type/remember? [04:00] Anakin (n=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [04:00] well, the first word is a secret still and the second word is "interconnection" [04:00] is that bad? [04:00] bad until you get a boomark [04:00] is this a commercial site ? [04:01] ooh boomark - new word [04:01] tank-man: could be at some point [04:02] firstword-i.com maybe [04:02] im not in marketing, what do i know [04:02] :) [04:02] lol [04:02] nullboy, it doesn't exactly roll off the tongue or stick in the mind [04:02] yeah [04:02] it's sort of brutal [04:02] ok, bad idea [04:03] first word = iemyour [04:03] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host16-9-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [04:03] lol [04:03] iemyour-interconnection.com [04:03] like the guy whose website looks like it's calls "computer sand solutions" [04:03] iizinyorpcstealingyour-interconnectionz.com [04:03] ffs.. i dont need this shit.. the whole company's phones are down [04:03] (computersandsolutions.com, what does it look like to you?) [04:04] are there any legalities to using a .net for business? [04:04] doubtful [04:04] the old rules about TLDs aren't really enforced for com/net/org [04:04] no the rules have been relaxed afaik - but that don't make it right :P [04:04] hard to get .mil .gov .edu still :( [04:05] I have a burning desire to own deathstar.mil [04:05] WTF! weather warning in effect. 10-15 centimetres of snow expected by tuesday afternoon. I'M SICK OF WINTER. [04:05] net for networks, org for non-profit, com for commerce/companies or whatever it is [04:05] 10cm that's like 4 inches [04:05] yeah but really, com/net/org these days exist only to make everyone buy their preferred domain name 3 times (or 5 if you count .biz and .info) [04:05] chopp: but you guys had such a late start [04:05] haha [04:06] chopp, got above ground power lines there? [04:06] bleah, in GA I'm supposed to be looking out for tornadoes right now [04:06] ip-route (n=mantened@200.172.83.136) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:06] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.7.104) left irc: "Leaving" [04:07] (not sure what I'm supposed to actually do if I see one... scream like a girl, maybe?) [04:07] dive: some areas but 4inches is squat, just it's been nice for awhile now and all melted. [04:07] Urchlay, funny thing with .uk names is that there are sposed to be *.uk but you can only find .co.uk .. [04:07] chopp, wait till the power lines get brought down by ice - then you will have fun [04:08] I still wish I could have talked someone from Ireland into registering microsoft.ie, back when it was available [04:08] dammit going up mickey D's for scrambled eggs [04:08] back in a car crash [04:08] dive: thats more an eastern canada thing, but has happened here too. [04:09] then there was fuckmicrosoft.com. could still be up? [04:09] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:10] fuckmicrosoft.com resolves but trying to connect to port 80 just hangs... [04:11] and I am too lazy/disinterested to do further checking [04:13] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) joined ##slackware. [04:13] well i got one now [04:13] a .net [04:14] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) left irc: "Saliendo" [04:15] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:17] too bad none of the alternative root domains never really took off [04:19] Mess[i]ah (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:20] i used dyndns and searched in google for a coupon, got 3 bucks off [04:20] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: [04:22] well damn, i have a domain name now [04:22] isn't that quaint [04:25] dywanik (n=dywanik@2001:6b0:27:ff:20a:e4ff:fefa:72b4) left irc: "bye all" [04:25] Sleepymess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:28] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:28] what did you end up making it? [04:28] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [04:28] antiwire.net [04:29] hey, thats cool [04:29] \o/ [04:29] i didn't activate it yet. [04:30] wow.. ie8 manages no better than 20% on acid3... in either mode [04:30] i'll wait for that, until my server is up [04:30] want a vhost on my linode for now? [04:30] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:30] not quite yet, but soon and thank you [04:30] it's not even enabled at all yet [04:30] all i did was register it and get the DNS service paid for [04:31] ok, well if you change you're mind, let me know. [04:31] keoni (i=1000@208.106.15.140) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:32] man, outlook sucks [04:32] I've got 12.2 on my linode that I did myself, but jkwood was working on an 12.2 image. Not sure if he finished or not. [04:33] dang, they let me create alias however i want [04:33] that's awesome [04:33] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:33] I'll have to look them over myself. [04:33] Zordrak, eh [04:33] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:33] Tagami (n=Winter@72-160-220-139.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:34] chopp: it cost me 44.45 to get the .net + DNS access + secret registration [04:34] for 1 yr [04:34] secret registration? [04:34] so my personal contact information isn't in the whois output [04:35] Buggaboo (n=bug@ipd50a4203.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [04:35] ah, ok [04:35] keoni (i=1000@208.106.15.140) joined ##slackware. [04:36] if you do it with dyndns use this coupon code to 3 bucks off: stickaround [04:36] ;) [04:36] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:36] kay gotta go again see if I talk/bribe ed into saying nothing. later [04:37] wtf people.. run bind for yourself :) [04:38] i'll use dnsmasq for the local lan side [04:40] Mess[i]ah (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:42] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@petrostsi1.ath.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[05:04] had to revert to friggin vbox to get radio2 :( [05:04] in windows remote connection, (there is a usernotfound) i cannot see the uernotfound user from remote connection list.. i searched google..i asked in #windows but noone can answer me..has anyone seen this before.. [05:05] i know its the wrong channel and i apologise.. but i cannot find it anywhere [05:05] :( [05:05] alisonken1home1 (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:05] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:06] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [05:08] nobody knows so far .. :( [05:10] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [05:10] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:14] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). 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[08:14] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [08:15] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [08:17] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:17] The-spiki (n=spiki@linette.net.yu) joined ##slackware. [08:21] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:21] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:22] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [08:23] kama (n=kama@host193-195-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:27] n3lab (n=mielofon@shellium/member/n3lab) joined ##slackware. [08:28] hihi:) mans, where can i download dbus-python package? [08:29] http://packages.slackware.it/package.php?q=12.2/dbus-python-0.83.0-i486-1 [08:29] ivan8013_ (n=ivan8013@190.148.195.117) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:30] that is if you're running 12.2 [08:30] n3lab: slackpkg download dbus-package [08:30] that is if you're runnung 12.2 [08:31] chopp 10x:) [08:31] Action: n3lab trying to build cedega :( [08:31] build cedega? [08:31] n3lab: slackpkg is also an awsome tool. [08:31] good luck.... [08:31] aint there binaries avaible? [08:31] slackerpete it don't wants to run:( [08:32] F1 2009-04-14 15:22:48,695 CRITICAL Unable to load GTK2 Python bindings: No module named gtk [08:32] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:35] mm. and how to run python-updater? [08:35] n3lab@castle ~ $ python-updater [08:35] bash: python-updater: command not found [08:36] huh? python updater? [08:36] what are you trying to do? [08:36] pirving (n=john@cpe-72-224-172-94.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:36] i want cedega:) [08:36] why not fetch a binary package? [08:37] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:37] dunno:( [08:37] Action: n3lab is newbie [08:37] i downloaded tgz package of cedega [08:39] you can just installpkg it and use it [08:40] but it don't want runs [08:40] F1 2009-04-14 15:22:48,695 CRITICAL Unable to load GTK2 Python bindings: No module named gtk [08:40] this mistake [08:41] but i already have pygtk [08:41] then maybe you need the python-gtk bindings [08:41] dunno then...contact cedega...you pay for support [08:42] yavuzyildirim (n=yavuzyil@box.sometwo.net) joined ##slackware. [08:42] o_O [08:42] yavuzyildirim (n=yavuzyil@box.sometwo.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:44] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:44] ivan8013__ (n=ivan8013@190.148.195.117) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:45] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:48] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [08:48] i run it! installing python package from dropline helps:) [08:50] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [08:52] O_o [08:53] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:53] outlook 2007 and ldap still sucks [08:53] what a suprise [08:59] S3 ViRGE is still supported under x.org ? [09:01] afaik S3 ViRGE has been supported for *ages* [09:01] ... or was that on XFree86? [09:01] mac-: have you tried the driver just called S3? [09:02] or is it "s3", i can never remember [09:02] how do I go back some time after an install and add additional sets? [09:02] http://www.x.org/wiki/s3 [09:02] macavity: got KMS working yet? [09:02] :) [09:03] mmlj4: slackpkg install kde [09:03] mmlj4: or what package set you need... [09:03] thrice`: i havent had time to hack since last we spoke [09:03] that'll take care of dependencies? scary [09:04] oh, bummer :) I got it successfully working with gentoo [09:04] mmlj4, it wont do dependency checking [09:04] mmlj4, but if you download *all* of kde, there should be none missing [09:04] mmlj4: there is no taking care of dependencies.. if you leave stuff out it is your responsibility to figure out if that pisses something else off [09:04] wait [09:04] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [09:04] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:04] greetings Old_Fogie [09:05] slackytude: that depends.. if he crapped out l/ then it may very well explode :P [09:05] true dat [09:05] Action: Old_Fogie waves to all the people from noobfarm :) [09:05] hee hee [09:05] Action: slackytude checks [09:05] I just want to install another set, as if I'd done it while installing the distro [09:05] what's up everbody :) [09:05] macavity: server 1.6, mesa 7.4, newest intel (with suspend!), KMS, and UXA accel working on my lappy :) [09:05] Old_Fogie: there is a little green monster in my back yard, who enquires to know if you want him to snail mail you a hot dog with extra chilli and sauercraud? [09:06] thrice`: nice :-) [09:06] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "Leaving" [09:06] Old_Fogie, at work :( [09:06] ooh man, I cant wait to bbq really [09:06] I don't want to fiddle with dependencies... I wasn't aware that slackpkg did that, anyway [09:06] thrice`, wow you've been working really hard at that I bet :) good job [09:06] thrice`: got gallium working yet? [09:07] macavity: does anybody? :) [09:07] mmlj4: that slackpkg does what? [09:07] macavity: can we start over? [09:07] macavity: how do I install an additional set? [09:07] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [09:07] thrice`: afaik, all you need is llvm from a date that matches :P [09:07] mmlj4: sure [09:07] thrice`, macavity I know rworkman has been doing some hacking on new X , but his progress fails me at the moment :( [09:08] mmlj4: slackpkg instal fubar [09:08] can't recall what he said he got going on it [09:08] mmlj4: that will install all the packages in packageset fubar, and nothing more. [09:08] tty3 (n=unknow@178.Red-83-37-58.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [09:08] Hello [09:08] Can help me? [09:09] type your question tty3 [09:09] macavity: the xcb stuff was terrible, though [09:09] troys_ (n=troys@68.165.100.2) joined ##slackware. [09:09] How I download Slackware? [09:09] I don't find the .iso in the ftp servers [09:09] mmlj4: that is, if fubar-tweaker from the package set fubar requres libfrob from the l package set, then it is your responsibility to make sure that is handled (in case you desided to not install all of l/) [09:09] tty3, from an ftp site, but what install kind are you doing? cd? dvd? [09:09] slackware.com, click on get slack, use a torrent [09:09] thrice`: you made xlib use xcb? [09:10] ok, that seems to work, thanks [09:10] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:10] tty3: Interesting.. every mirror I look at has the .iso [09:10] mmlj4: if you only install full package sets, then you are pretty sure to have your dependencies met [09:10] macavity: again, I don't want dependencies, I want a set [09:10] Old_Fogie, the page selected mirros :S of spain, i'm living in lanzarote (canary islands), i don't find the .iso [09:10] thanks [09:10] mmlj4: again, that is what i have been explaining to you :P [09:11] macavity: xcb resulted in rebuilding a ton of system items too [09:11] if I wanted dependencies, I'd go run redhat [09:11] good [09:11] tty3, I asked cd /dvd cuz the dvd is only on bittorrent [09:11] thankfully, gentoo has a "fix-what-xcb-broke.sh" , but still :P [09:11] ah ok [09:11] mmlj4: you do understand that slackware has dependencies too... it just doesnt have automatic dependency resolution [09:12] yes, yes [09:12] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:12] in that case, check the manpage for slackpkg [09:12] it is awesome [09:12] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [09:12] Old_Fogie, What's the official mirror? [09:12] For download torrent [09:12] Sorry bad english, [09:12] slackware.com/torrents [09:13] ^^ [09:13] argh [09:13] I think I'm going to add slackware to mirror1.slackadelic.com [09:13] man, its hot outside [09:13] umislack (n=sleeksla@58.64.91.177) joined ##slackware. [09:13] http://www.slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php [09:14] glen2 (n=glen@78-86-231-25.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:14] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:15] thanks so much [09:15] you're welcome:) [09:15] haha [09:16] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) joined ##slackware. [09:19] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:21] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:22] hey did you guys know of this site http://www.box-look.org/ <--themes [09:23] ok.. what a kde-look knockoff [09:23] umislack (n=sleeksla@58.64.91.177) left ##slackware. [09:23] and xfce-look :) [09:23] I think they are all related frankly [09:23] theblackbox (n=sam@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [09:24] theblackbox (n=sam@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:24] not just -look [09:24] also -apps [09:24] reason I asked if people knew is, I've never seen a link for it at kde/xfce look (well never noticed it at least) [09:24] troys (n=troys@68.165.100.2) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:24] or perhaps there is just some phpbb alike peice of free software that is what makes sense for a project like that [09:25] didnt know it [09:25] nice to see some of the nice things the community did for icewm tho, some of their stock themes leave a little to be desired [09:25] makes sense, tho [09:26] kama (n=kama@host193-195-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:26] btw, i'm wondering how come openbox has not made it into an official slack package.. [09:27] kama (n=kama@host193-195-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:28] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:28] good point, it should totally replace blackbox [09:29] well, if not replace at least be included... [09:29] not that it's not easy to build ob [09:29] but it's definitely worth it to be there [09:29] yup, and gnome too, let's not forget that [09:30] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-96-102.ip86.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [09:30] Action: Dominian slaps Old_Fogie [09:30] hahaha [09:30] Salve a tutti [09:30] lol [09:30] heheh [09:30] hello Dr4kk4r_ [09:30] Old_Fogie: Don't make me put you in time out [09:30] Dominian, lol :) [09:31] Action: Zordrak is reeling from a well-timed fortune... simply says "GIVE UP!!!!" [09:32] hey i have an email server running slack 10.2, can anyone recommend some sort of anti-spam application that maybe fetches blacklists or even does filtering in-house? [09:32] spamassassin [09:32] spamassassin [09:32] :D [09:32] ok ill look into spamassassin heh [09:32] stitchman: you want more than just spamassassin [09:32] clamav is also usefull [09:33] stitchman: How many accounts and how many emails per day does your email server handle? [09:33] you need to carefully specify recipient checks like HELO checks, FQDN checks etc.. THEN call spamassassin, THEN cal/l clamav and, if you use it, THEN call greylisting [09:33] You don't have to. [09:34] any good email server does receipient checks out of the box [09:34] HELO checks aren't required, but are recommended.. same with FQDN [09:34] a busy business can't afford to reject email based on failed FQDN lookups [09:34] Dominian: but you still need to check and understand what it's doing [09:34] Zordrak: I do know what its doing.. for a small setup.. most of that is unnecessary [09:34] theres only like 2 email accounts, me and my wife, and without spam it would be maybe 5-10 emails a day, its like 40+ with spam though [09:34] however, clamav/spamassassin should always be used [09:35] btw.. by fqdn, i meant fqdn_rcipient [09:35] i run this.. in order: [09:35] actually, i'd recommend using clam BEFORE spamassassin [09:36] heh [09:36] ananke: or do what we do here at work.. we can the email before accepting it [09:36] seriously, using it as a milter is very speedy [09:36] hrm [09:36] Dominian : in this case, you get to can it before you fully accept it [09:36] yep [09:37] sounds like this wont be a 10 minute project :P [09:37] heh [09:37] stitchman: usually easier to find someone with the setup already.. and let them host the domain/emails for you [09:37] i set the email server up 4 years ago, was kind of a set-and-forget project for me heh [09:37] ahh [09:37] only recently i have been getting tons of spam [09:38] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [09:38] reject non fqdn recipient, reject unknown recpt domain, permit mynet' permit authenticated, reject unuauth dest, check whitelists, reject rbl1, reject rbl2, check SPF, check clam, check spamassassin, check greylisting, permit [09:38] thats just the recip restrictions [09:39] more on helo restrict, sender restrict etc [09:39] actually [09:39] greylisting should be done after all your domain checks [09:39] and I suggest puttung sasl authenticated before everything else [09:39] You will have aclients that their FQDN doesn't resolve [09:39] grey is too heavy to be anything but last imo [09:40] eh [09:40] greylisting cuts out 95% of the crap connections that are spam for me [09:40] alkos333 (n=alkos333@nmd.sbx10826.dekalil.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [09:41] i drop most connections based on helo checks and basic recip checks [09:41] ligcht and quick [09:41] all the spam i get is from the same "people" with domains all registered to the same "person" [09:41] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:41] grey then only deals with the smarter stuff [09:41] email server is heavy black magic [09:42] Zordrak: adn about sasl authenticated.. I wouldn't even have them on the same port as MTA to MTA transfers.. I'd put them on submission [09:42] djshotglass (n=dextro@d216-232-234-123.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [09:42] http://pastie.org/446016 [09:42] whats with the mass arps? they dont even apear to be coming from an ip that is on that machine! [09:42] i agree i prolly ought to put permit authenticated earlier... but will do when i can be arsed... not enough load to matter atm [09:42] hehe [09:42] djshotglass: You have cable don't you? [09:42] its a machine in a datacenter [09:43] booteco (n=booteco@200.139.120.10.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:43] how many IP subnets on that one network segment in that data center? [09:43] probably a lot [09:43] you're seeing arp requests for everything that switch handles [09:43] its normal [09:43] if you dont like it (which would be paranoid), get a programmable switch [09:43] either that or someone has something completely misconfigured in that datacenter [09:43] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:45] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:47] gash (n=vmw@pool-96-255-84-215.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:47] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:49] Nick change: straterr1 -> straterra [09:50] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [09:50] has slackware msttcorefonts package/ [09:50] no [09:51] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [09:51] :( [09:51] fucking power went off last night now my slackware router isnt routing anymore and mythtv dooesnt work anymore what a pain in the ass [09:52] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:54] zeroXzero (n=zxz@59.93.13.223) joined ##slackware. [09:55] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-436167.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:55] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host16-9-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "brb" [09:56] slackwiki is down? :S [09:57] hmm ok i guess not.. weird [09:57] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:58] ok i guess its just messed up.. the tutorials page has no pages or media? :S [09:59] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:59] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:59] stillbor1 (n=stillbor@YMKCDXXII.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [10:02] zeroXzero (n=zxz@59.93.13.223) left irc: "leaving" [10:02] zeroXzero (n=zxz@59.93.13.223) joined ##slackware. [10:05] zx10k1 (n=nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) left irc: "Leaving" [10:06] thats odd, http://slackwiki.org/Special:Search?search=tutorials&fulltext=Search shows quite a few in tutorials, but the category page doens't seem to showthem [10:07] gash (n=vmw@pool-96-255-84-215.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [10:07] weird something must have went corrupt or its being worked on... [10:07] it's da black voodoo gizmo of teh intarwebs that has jinxed it [10:07] djshotglass (n=dextro@d216-232-234-123.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: [10:08] gremlins! [10:09] gash (n=vmw@pool-96-255-84-215.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:09] need to udev my stupid tuner :S [10:09] good luck with that [10:10] ya ive never touched udev before this should be interesting.. [10:10] its not all that bad [10:10] use a 10-myrules file [10:10] Nick change: Guest92995 -> sidmario [10:11] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:11] http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html [10:11] zeroXzer1 (n=zxz@59.93.9.223) joined ##slackware. [10:12] also, the "last_rule" option can be important [10:12] can anybody jelp me with msttcorefonts?( [10:12] wtf?! [10:12] i right click on that link select "open in opera" it opens http://re/ which eventually brings up some realestate page [10:12] last I heard slackwiki was having some database issues [10:12] i_is_cat, works for me in opera [10:13] no wait, it doesnt [10:13] wtf [10:13] ya its weird the first link worked.. [10:13] zeroXzer1 (n=zxz@59.93.9.223) left irc: Client Quit [10:13] http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html#syntax [10:13] eh, strange [10:13] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [10:14] stillborn (n=stillbor@85.77.205.245) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:14] i wonder if thats an xchat issue or an opera issue...... [10:14] Im wondering the same [10:14] altho firefox opens the link fine [10:14] if I do "open link in browser" [10:15] very strange [10:15] ya mine brought up konqueror when i did that and it works fine too [10:15] zeroXzer1 (n=zxz@59.93.9.223) joined ##slackware. [10:16] Im gonna try that at home with opera 10.0 [10:16] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [10:16] anyway, its a good link [10:17] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:17] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [10:17] thanks slackytude im reading it now :) [10:18] i_is_cat, as I said, the "last_rule" option is often needed, to prevent other rules messing with your entry [10:18] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [10:18] that shouldnt happen, but it still does [10:19] good to know [10:19] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:19] also, HAL will not respond correctly if you have a modified rule. at least under xfce. takes some time to get automounting working again if you give your device a special place [10:19] shouldnt be a problem with a tuner, tho [10:20] ya i dont like automounting it irritates me lol [10:21] no lol, see topic [10:21] O_o [10:21] eh, wrong channel [10:21] Action: slackytude needs more coffee [10:21] i could just reboot my system with the webcam unplugged but i dont want to have to remember to do that every time the thing loses power :S [10:24] zeroXzero (n=zxz@59.93.13.223) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:26] anomaly (n=anomaly@adsl-248-14-78.mob.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [10:27] I am pretty sure it is a common problem.. or quite simple.. I installed all in x.. yet, still complaining about default font fixed. (12.2 btw) [10:30] n3lab (n=mielofon@shellium/member/n3lab) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:31] anomaly: sounds like you need to re-run the fontconfig script [10:32] /var/log/setup/setup.05.fontconfig [10:32] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:32] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-96-102.ip86.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "Leaving" [10:32] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [10:34] alkos333 (n=alkos333@nmd.sbx10826.dekalil.wayport.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:34] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.41.239) joined ##slackware. [10:37] zeroXzer1 (n=zxz@59.93.9.223) left irc: "leaving" [10:37] zeroXzero (n=zxz@59.93.9.223) joined ##slackware. [10:40] # /var/log/setup/setup.05.fontconfig drops to another line.. no output, no errors.. startx still complains :) [10:40] hrm [10:40] I know there's a fix for that some where [10:40] what's the exact error? [10:40] somehere... under the rainbow [10:41] LnxSlck: reminds me of "Face Off" anytime someone says that hehe [10:41] :) [10:41] \\live.sysinternals.com\Procmon.exe [10:41] that's the music from sound of the heart or something [10:41] O_o [10:42] Fatal Server Error \n Cannot open default font fixed [10:42] mkfontdir ? :S [10:42] anomaly: Yeah you can run the mkfontdir script [10:42] just did that.. still nothing [10:43] odd [10:43] indeed [10:44] have you ried reinstalling the fonts? [10:45] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [10:47] doing so now [10:47] theres no udevinfo on slack 12.2? :S [10:48] Sergio_ (n=Sergio@201009142222.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "..." [10:51] i_is_cat, there is [10:52] i_is_cat, udevadm info [10:52] there is? [10:53] ah cool ty its annoying when things get changed like that.. [10:54] never update your system then [10:54] lol [10:54] fine i wont! just watch me! i'll use 12.2 for the next 40yrs [10:54] good luck with that :) [10:55] lol [10:56] lool [10:57] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [10:57] zeroXzero (n=zxz@59.93.9.223) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:57] i_is_cat: I bet slackware 12.2 could run for 40 years:) lol [10:57] not on the same hardware [10:57] probably.. but the hardware would fail long before that hehe [10:58] yeah [10:58] ^-^ [10:58] i_is_cat: I wouldn't say that [10:58] HD failure [10:59] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [10:59] Buggaboo (n=bug@ipd50a4203.speed.planet.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:00] The obvious solution is to run it on a VM in distributed cloud environment so that the hardware of the cloud can be upgraded while the VM image is running on other nodes in the cloud [11:00] whats with this path thing in udevadm? i feel retarded today i checked the man i tried so many variations of udevadm info --path= and --query= and --query= with --path= and it wont give me any freakin info [11:01] off to work. bye:) [11:02] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: [11:02] udevadm info --name=hda --query=all [11:03] man i should just go back to bed lol [11:03] i knew this day was going to suck [11:04] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:04] gooph_ (n=chatzill@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:05] TecR0c (n=TecR0c@149.135.69.140) joined ##slackware. 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[11:24] firebird619: Then have your terminal open it with opera :P [11:25] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [11:26] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [11:27] zeroXzero (n=zxz@59.93.9.223) joined ##slackware. [11:27] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: [11:28] booteco (n=booteco@200.139.120.10.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [11:28] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.178.18) joined ##slackware. [11:31] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:32] MrJacks0n (i=Mr@173-86-54-247.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Connection timed out [11:35] monstro (i=monstro@189.111.17.68) joined ##slackware. [11:36] Anthony_ (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:36] fireking (n=STRESSAD@201.86.182.89.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:36] Nick change: signal11_ -> signal11 [11:36] It opens fine for me. [11:36] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:36] tty3 (n=unknow@178.Red-83-37-58.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:37] Hi all, [11:37] Hi [11:37] Where I find documentation about supports ethernet in slackware ? [11:38] monstro: look at the linux kernel docs [11:40] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:42] How do you pronounce Xine ??? Zine? Ig-zine? Seen? [11:42] monstro: find -name *HOWTO* [11:44] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("brb"). [11:44] fireking (n=STRESSAD@200.175.150.25) joined ##slackware. [11:44] or better yet, from the root directory find -name *Ethernet* [11:45] man man [11:47] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:47] officially pronounced [ksi:n [11:47] kseen? [11:48] kxine? [11:48] ga-xine? [11:49] why not just rename it and call it POS? [11:49] then you have nothing to worry about [11:50] hehehe [11:51] don't like xine? [11:51] what do you prefer? MPlayer or VLC? [11:51] i think xine is great [11:51] I love xine, I hate gxine [11:51] vlc is king [11:51] what is the difference? [11:51] but that doesnt mean i go around trying to figure out the pronunciation of it :| [11:51] gxine is a different UI [11:51] and i agree, gxine sucks balls [11:52] Remember when pat used totem? [11:52] I didn't mind totem [11:52] ok [11:52] well gnome is pronounced Ga-Nome. did you know that [11:52] Srbo_ (i=1000@p4FE909EA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [11:52] and GNU Ga-Nu [11:53] . . . [11:53] reall? [11:53] not really, and it doesn't matter =p it's gnome [11:53] and Linux is Leen-uucks [11:53] or Lin---Ucks [11:53] and rat bastard is pronounced: rat bastard [11:53] but it doesnt change anything [11:53] monstro (i=monstro@189.111.17.68) left irc: "Leaving" [11:53] Tagami (n=Winter@72-160-220-139.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [11:53] I always thought it was G-Nome [11:53] Gee-Nome [11:53] go away troll >.<; [11:54] i agree [11:54] Your a troll for saying that [11:54] be off with you [11:54] thats pronounced OFF [11:54] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.44) joined ##slackware. [11:54] I disagree, I'm having a discussion, if you wish not to participate, then you can Fuck off [11:54] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:55] your discussion is pointless and lame discuss it at #pointless-and-lame i bet you can even be an op [11:56] thats pronounced aw-p [11:56] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:00] DeeeeP (i=1003@bl11-181-52.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:00] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:00] pirving: if you had anything slackware-related to discuss, i'd gladly engage in conversation with you [12:00] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Client Quit [12:00] but since yesterday, all of your "discussions" have been trollish topics [12:00] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:01] before i implement this, are there any obvious errors? [12:01] SUBSYSTEM=="video4linux", DRIVERS=="saa7134", ATTRS{vendor}=="0x1131", NAME="v4l/video0", SYMLINK+="video0" [12:01] chance22 (n=chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:01] TecROc (n=TecR0c@acetow2.lnk.telstra.net) joined ##slackware. [12:02] wait change that to, SUBSYSTEM=="video4linux", SUBSYSTEMS=="pci", DRIVERS=="saa7134", ATTRS{vendor}=="0x1131", NAME="v4l/video0", SYMLINK+="video0" [12:03] basically the name and the symlink are what im concerned about the rest of it is from the block and one parent only which should be fine.. [12:04] ##slackware: mode change '+o phrag' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [12:04] Topic changed on ##slackware by phrag!n=phrag@about/slackware/phrag: Guidelines: http://tinyurl.com/3kox9k | http://slackbook.org | http://slackwiki.org | http://slackbuilds.org | http://slackware.com/getslack | This Channel has Public Logs | http://freenodeslack.blogspot.com/ | http://slackwaregallery.org | Slackware 12.2 Released December 9, 2008 | Use a torrent: http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php | Security: php, xine-lib, openssl, seamonkey. [12:04] ##slackware: mode change '-o phrag' by phrag!n=phrag@about/slackware/phrag [12:05] phrag is pat ? [12:05] phrag is phrag [12:06] :S [12:07] filiberto (n=filibert@189.174.139.177) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final: just when you thought it couldn't get any better" [12:07] hallo 8oP [12:07] also, if i'm setting my tvtuner which is currently video1 to video0 which is what the webcam is, should i specify that the webcam should be video1 or will the tuner line be enough? [12:08] this hal? [12:08] that'd be udev [12:08] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03FB5.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:08] yep udev [12:08] ah yes [12:09] i_is_cat: I'd guess it will stick to video1, but a rule might not hurt [12:09] annoying having to hard code that stuff [12:09] k ill make a rule for it just to be safe then ty [12:10] i rarely reboot, just remember to keep the same devices plugged in when i do =P [12:10] phrag is the stig! ;) [12:10] heheh [12:11] ya the power went out last night and my webcam wasnt working on this system for a while i only got it up right like a day before the power died now mythtv is only seeing the webcam even tho i manually set it to go for video1 [12:11] i'm too slow... and i don't own a car =P [12:11] so it looks like udev is my only option aside from unplugging the cam and rebooting or unloading the modules i suppose.. [12:12] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:13] Buggaboo (n=bug@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:15] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "leaving" [12:15] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:16] udev is fun stuff [12:16] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:16] ok so i guess now i have to reboot and see if it works.... [12:16] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:16] no! [12:16] no! [12:16] udevadm trigger [12:17] ya i was actually just looking at udevtrigger but theres no man page on my system for it lol [12:17] but isn't he trying to eumlate the problem of rebooting ? [12:17] udevadm takes care of that stuff now [12:17] or just what udevs forces ? [12:17] yep i am phrag [12:18] ah cool, i would reboot a couple of times with different hardware plugged in and ensure the problem is resolved... then you don't have to wonder or reboot in the future =P [12:18] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:18] that was pretty much my line of thought also.. [12:19] I still dont' see why rebooting is necessary [12:19] i guess if you can afford to reboot just now, can't harm... if it's inconvient then perhaps not [12:20] i do like most in here cringe if i *have* to reboot [12:20] i dunno i tried the trigger and it didnt seem to do anything.. [12:21] worst i get is my keyboard stops responding in X... restarting kde fixes it, but still inconvient [12:21] filiberto (n=filibert@189.174.139.177) joined ##slackware. [12:21] ya i really dislike rebooting also but it was the power last night that killed it and i want to make sure if it happens again that things will be ok.. [12:21] and once this is done i've got to get the damned gateway/firewall working again [12:22] not a clue how i got it up yesterday.. it just suddenly started working so i left it thinking as long as it never powers off its all good [12:22] then wouldnt you know it, POOF! no more power [12:22] power grid is the arch enemy of the linux uptime =P [12:22] TecR0c (n=TecR0c@149.135.69.140) left irc: Success [12:22] i'd have a ups if i could afford it but im super broke [12:24] man it takes a long time to download 120gb of data :S [12:24] anyways.. reboot test time brb [12:24] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:25] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [12:26] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [12:27] hehehe [12:28] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:29] it didnt change [12:30] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.179.81) joined ##slackware. [12:30] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:31] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Client Quit [12:31] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.179.81) joined ##slackware. [12:32] this is my info http://pastebin.com/m641a6b21 i think i did everything properly....?? [12:32] but it still makes the webcam video0 and the tuner video1 :S [12:32] harmattan (n=harmatta@82.159.57.159.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [12:33] buba1 (n=buba1@ppp-69-237-117-173.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:33] hmm [12:33] weird.... the first thing there shows up as a radio whereas before it was the webcam [12:33] that is messed up [12:33] cHiOs (n=chio@CPE-65-29-166-235.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:34] doesnt that seem odd that the command i used specified --name=video0 and it shows kernel=radio0 ? [12:35] ew god [12:35] i installed all the fonts packages from slackbuilds [12:35] and my junk is crunk. i hate it. [12:35] wow what a remarkably bad idea [12:35] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-148-60.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:36] oh i think i know what happened here.......... i didnt specify anything that ties video0 specifically to the tv tuner part of the tuner card and it must have seen the radio first so it set radio as video0 [12:36] iiiiiiiii seeeee...... [12:37] gooph (n=chatzill@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:39] well lets see what happens now... [12:39] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:39] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:39] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [12:40] Shuren (n=Devilman@host62-170-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "In silence we still talk..." [12:42] Silver (n=hidden@adsl-99-155-66-62.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [12:43] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:43] ok now its back the way it was.. webcam is video0 and tuner is video1 and the radio seems to be the radio [12:46] dartmouth: Your junk is crunk? [12:48] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:48] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:48] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [12:48] Jewpermess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [12:48] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [12:49] zeroXzero (n=zxz@59.93.9.223) left irc: "leaving" [12:50] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:51] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [12:51] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:53] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-71-168-128-240.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Killed (DrmWEaver (Requested by panasync))" [12:54] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [12:54] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:54] sunzofman (n=sunzofma@c-98-209-203-170.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:54] this udev thing just doesnt seem to be working i dont understand why.. anyone have any insight? [12:55] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-74-109-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [12:56] piroko: im regretting installing these fonts. [12:56] i didnt see anywhere that any of the other udev rules had to be deleted or commented out and the other .rules files say at the top not to edit them as they will be overwritten on update but the 40-video.rules is full of video stuff... [12:56] dartmouth: How come? And can you just uninstall them? [12:58] piroko: yeah, i was just hoping a few adjustments would fix it. my serif doesn't look like serif anymore. [12:59] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-148-60.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [13:01] i dont know if it matters but on boot i get an error about udevtrigger -retry failed or something... [13:04] ok i just did 'udevadm info --name=video0 --query=all --attribute-walk' and 'udevadm info --name=video1 --query=all --attribute-walk' and they both show the webcam.. something weird is going on here [13:05] what is this best terminal for slackware ? sample: xterm, rxvt, aterm ? [13:06] what is the* [13:06] i use yakuake or whatever the hell its called [13:06] fireking, terminal is the best. (xfce) [13:06] its fancy lookin [13:06] humm.. [13:06] thanks.. [13:07] I keep preferring Konsole. [13:07] Konsole is also a good choice. [13:07] konsole [13:07] depends on yor DE [13:08] I use Terminal and Yakuake, and before those pretty much mrxvt constantly [13:08] Yeah, konsole will fire up half of KDE when you start it, I guess. [13:08] i like the F12 thing with yakuake hit F12 and theres your terminal hit it again and it goes bye-bye [13:08] konsole is a terminal ? [13:08] yep [13:08] cource it is :) [13:08] *of course [13:08] skibur (i=1000@12.197.207.99) joined ##slackware. [13:09] i don`t like kde.. [13:09] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-27-240-220.glfd.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:09] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:09] i like kde [13:10] Oh dear, here we go again. [13:10] 3.5.x anyways.. havent tried 4.x at all [13:10] lol [13:10] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-240-220.glfd.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:10] dive: how are you doing with compiz compatability with yakuake, also in xfce? [13:10] i like xfce too [13:10] not so big on gnome though [13:10] dartmouth, not using compiz [13:10] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:10] compiz with yakuake is weird [13:11] F12 and turn it to a globe and theres 4 terminals :O and they dont stand out from the sphere! [13:11] I very rarely startx these days and when I do it's for 10 mins or so [13:11] hardly worth putting compiz on [13:12] woooo fb compiz without a gui! [13:12] that would be phat [13:12] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: "Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com" [13:12] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [13:12] yeah would be nice [13:13] seriously tho.. does anyone have a clue wtf is going on with my udev? according to that udev rules page i read, my rules should be fine.. [13:13] dartmouth: Haha. This is a problem [13:14] i_is_cat: normally, you wouldn't touch udev. What's wrong? [13:15] Sleepymess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Connection timed out [13:15] normally, i touch udev quite often [13:15] my tvtuner and webcam are mixed up tuner should be video0 and webcam should be video1 but when the power went out they reversed now im trying to get them back but the udev rules dont seem to take effect properly [13:17] first ones i tried i missed something that specifies the tv from the radio so i reboot and video0 is radio0 so i changed it and reboot and it was back to tuner=video1 webcam=video0 so i tried reversing the order of the udev lines and reboot again now both video0 and video1 are the webcam [13:17] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [13:17] i_is_cat, do you have persistent rules for them in /etc/udev/rules.d/? [13:17] SUBSYSTEM=="video4linux", SUBSYSTEMS=="pci", DRIVERS=="saa7134", ATTR{name}=="saa7133[0] video (Philips Tiger", NAME="v4l/video0", SYMLINK+="video0" [13:17] SUBSYSTEM=="video4linux", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTR{name}=="gspca main driver", ATTRS{idVendor}=="093a", NAME="v4l/video1", SYMLINK+="video1" [13:18] i set that as 10-local.rules [13:18] fireking (n=STRESSAD@200.175.150.25) left irc: [13:19] and there is definitely _no_ other rules for them in one of the other files? [13:20] well thats the thing.. theres a 40-video.rules which has some rules set and i think in the 50-udev-default.rules it has the same thing as the 40-video but those files specify not to alter them so i didnt.. [13:21] this is the video line from the 40-video: KERNEL=="video[0-9]*", NAME="v4l/video%n", SYMLINK+="%k", GROUP="video" [13:21] that could be the problem then [13:21] fireking (n=STRESSAD@201.86.182.100) joined ##slackware. [13:21] Jim-Morrison (n=UNIX@200.96.5.32) joined ##slackware. [13:21] and this is whats in the udev-default [13:21] KERNEL=="video0", SYMLINK+="video" [13:22] I don't think there would be a problem if you comment out those lines (afaik anyway) [13:22] i was kind of thinking the same thing but again, the top of those files says: # do not edit this file, it will be overwritten on update [13:22] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) joined ##slackware. [13:22] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:22] yeah if you upgrade udev package it will [13:23] hence there is also an /etc/udev/rules.d/ [13:23] with persistent rules [13:23] but I don't know which set of rules it works on first.. [13:24] you could try putting your ruleset there [13:24] if that doesn't work, comment out the other two files perhaps [13:24] s/files/rules [13:24] well i do.. i added the 10-local.rules which should be the second one that it looks at [13:25] im gonna try commenting out the line and try again i guess [13:26] Anthony_ (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:27] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host240-77-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:27] Jim-Morrison (n=UNIX@200.96.5.32) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:31] j0z (n=UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Connection timed out [13:31] j0z (n=UNIX@200.96.5.32) joined ##slackware. [13:32] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:33] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[13:45] fireking (n=STRESSAD@201.86.182.100) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:48] mikk0 (n=mikk01@YKMMMDVI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [13:48] where's slackboy by the way? [13:48] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host240-77-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:49] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:49] nothing i do seems to have the proper effect on this udev thing [13:49] i decided to bitchx from my other box so im not on and off and on and off [13:49] but i dont understand why the udev rule isnt taking effect [13:50] DeeeeP (i=1003@bl10-119-92.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:51] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host240-77-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:52] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A76347.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:52] greetings again [13:52] stillbor2 (n=stillbor@YKMDCCV.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [13:52] firebird619, you still here? [13:52] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:53] yup [13:53] sorry, for running away [13:54] did you catch the weired beaviour of opera, I was telling about [13:54] i think i'm going to bitchslap udev in about 5min [13:54] i_is_cat, heh [13:54] No, I tried opening that link with opera, I didn't notice anything odd, what did you experience? [13:54] i_is_cat, whats your problem? [13:55] firebird619, it opens a real estate site for me and i_is_cat [13:55] Hmm, it didn't do that for me. [13:56] http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html [13:56] slackytude i read that page you linked me followed it and set two rules but when they do take effect they do weird ass things like make the webcam both video0 and video1 or they just wont take effect at all [13:56] I get http://www.realestate.com/realtors/ [13:56] so do i [13:56] i_is_cat, did you add "last_rule" = [13:56] I get, Writing Udev Rules. [13:56] i_is_cat, did you add "last_rule" ? [13:56] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [13:57] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166039060.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:57] oh motherfucker! you specified that too and i totally forgot doh! [13:57] ^-^ [13:57] thanks dude i hope it works this time [13:57] i_is_cat, there is an example with that on the site, try it [13:57] firebird619, you on opera 10 ? I get it with 9.52 and 9.64 [13:58] I tried it with 9.64. [13:58] strange [13:58] firebird619, you on xchat? [13:58] I use irssi, but I tried from xchat as well. [13:59] the issue is when you right click the link in xchat and select "open with opera" if its pasted in it works fine [13:59] and i use 9.64 [14:00] Yeah, that's what I did, right-clicked. That sure is odd if it does that. [14:00] it really is weird.. [14:00] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-436167.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:01] I was thinking DNS issue, but I cant really see that being the problem either [14:01] im on bitchx right now so i cant try it.. this box has no mouse, but when i right click on it and select open in opera before the realestat page comes up it shows http://re/ so i'm wondering if you're on xchat right now does it do the same thing with say.. www.retarded.com ? [14:02] or maybe its the http thing.. http://renownedlinuxusers.org [14:02] j0z (n=UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: "just for today" [14:03] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166039060.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:03] I'll log out here and get back on in xchat and try again. [14:04] brb [14:04] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [14:04] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [14:04] Ok, what's the link again? [14:05] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-74-109-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [14:05] http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html [14:05] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p57A73C0F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:05] then try something else like http://realmccoy.com [14:06] Hmm, it does it now for me too. That is strange. [14:06] connection sux [14:06] That one opens right i_is_cat. [14:07] thats really weird... [14:07] yeppers [14:07] firebird619, you have the issue, too? [14:07] It does seem like a dns issue or something, redirecting the page like that. [14:07] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-119-51.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [14:07] slackytude2: yeah, I'm in xchat again now and it redirected to that realestate site. [14:08] but why would it yield different dns results based on how the adress is put into bar [14:08] I have a PC that just goes off (sleep mode, as in truning off output to monitor), after about 45 minutes or so. Is there a way to stop that? [14:08] slackytude, adding the last_rule thing seems to have caused a weird error during boot claiming my superblock is bad.... [14:08] Or... maybe that's a setting on the monitor....? [14:09] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:09] slackytude2: I don't know. It's really strange. Think it's xchat instead of opera? [14:09] i_is_cat, O_o [14:09] firebird619, no idea, never had that before [14:09] i mean.. it may not be the direct cause but the only thing i touched was the rule and thats when it popped up [14:09] what error? [14:10] usr13: sounds like screensaver or power management settings, just a guess though. [14:10] firebird619: Ok... well, that'll give me something to look for next time I go. [14:10] says the superblock for /dev/sda1 is bad and to enter the root pass to try to fix it or hit ctrl+d to reboot which gives the same error [14:10] slackytude2: To me, it just seems like more an xchat issue, (i.e. xchat sending the wrong url to opera.) [14:11] stillbor1 (n=stillbor@YMKCDXXII.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:11] I donated a PC to my VFW post and the screensaver has a lot of cool pics on it, just thought it'd be nice to keep it going all the time. [14:11] I have no idea though, that's just my thinking. :) [14:11] It's slackware 12.2 [14:11] Many of them are seeing Linux for first time. [14:12] i_is_cat, that shouldnt happen [14:12] I just installed broadband connection with WiFi and put in a PC for member use. [14:12] so i type in my root pass and it brings me to the shell and i dont know exactly how limited it is but i try an fdisk -l and get nothing at all :S [14:12] O_o [14:12] i hope my drive isnt pooched all of a sudden [14:13] then disable the rule and reboot [14:13] hmm i cant [14:13] dont even have vi [14:14] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [14:14] and the fs is read only so i cant even move or delete the friggin file [14:14] i_is_cat: you need to mount proc [14:14] remount / r/w too [14:14] you're in single user recovery mode [14:15] Ekc (n=iskar@79-100-14-45.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [14:15] Yea, just fond something on my 12.1 box here at home; Control Center -> Peripherals -> Display -> Power Control [14:15] That might be it... [14:15] it says proc is already mounted and wont let me remount / [14:16] filipe_xD (n=filipe@189.56.22.194) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:16] i_is_cat: how are you trying to remount it? [14:16] I don't think there's any difference in KDE for 12.1 and 12.2 [14:17] various ways, im trying lots of crap here lol i've got no drives at all showing up in /dev [14:17] i tried umounting proc it didnt complain i tried umounting / it didnt complain then mounting them back it says special device /dev/sda1 does not exist [14:17] hmmm, anyone running the new radeonhd driver? 1.2.5 [14:18] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A76347.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:19] http://video.linuxfoundation.org/video/1154 [14:20] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [14:20] i_is_cat, two options [14:20] i_is_cat, livecd or mknod [14:20] uuh [14:20] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:20] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-125-160-131.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: SendQ exceeded [14:20] how about you just reboot it first... [14:21] the rule is still effective [14:21] ya i just popped in dyne:bolic its all i have for live cds right now and its been rebooted about 6 times keeps getting to the same place [14:21] next time dont reboot [14:21] use udevadm trigger [14:22] and udevtest [14:22] altho I havent seen a udev rule messing up a system like that before [14:23] me neither.. its weird i hope i can cure it when dyne gets up [14:23] firebird619, what did you win exactly, btw? [14:23] its taking forever to load because of all my hdd's and partitions [14:23] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.118) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:24] slackytude2: Well, I don't know exactly, I know for sure an opera t-shirt. I couldn't find a list of what items I'll get. I just sent the e-mail a few hours ago with my address, etc. I'll let you know what all I get when I get it. [14:24] heh, a opera shirt. thats kinda cool [14:24] Yeah, it is. [14:26] I was one of 10 who won goodie bags. my.opera.com, where this hunt was, has over 2 million users. :D [14:26] so dyne is up, doesnt see either of my sata drives *sigh* probably doesnt have sata support since its a super old version.. this is turning out to be a huge pain in the ass [14:28] eh? [14:28] anyone good with open office? is there a way to delete any rows that contain a specific word? [14:29] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.41.239) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:29] isBEKaml (n=vats@122.164.250.235) joined ##slackware. [14:30] isBEKaml (n=vats@122.164.250.235) left ##slackware. [14:30] isBEKaml (n=vats@122.164.250.235) joined ##slackware. [14:30] I don't know, but is this in calc? [14:31] oh that works, ctrl-f "find all" then just right click one of the rows thats highlighted and "delete rows" got them all [14:31] yeah its calc sorry [14:31] got it though :) [14:31] ok this is weird.. i put the slack 12.2 disc in and do an fdisk -l it shows all my drives but the only partition with a * indicating its bootable is on /dev/hda1 and it should be /dev/sda1 thats bootable.... [14:32] different kernel? [14:32] shouldnt be... [14:32] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:33] I've seen different kernels recognize flash media as hda or sda [14:33] well, it shouldnt matter as long as you can mount your disk [14:33] Jewpermess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:33] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.118) joined ##slackware. [14:33] I've also seen different sata controllers show up as sda or hda [14:33] rather, same drives on different sata controllers [14:34] mikk0 (n=mikk01@YKMMMDVI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: [14:34] big_bass (n=big_bass@189.192.41.100) joined ##slackware. [14:34] ya im pretty sure its the udev rule because it says something about udevtrigger right before the error pops up [14:35] I used to get a system crash after udevtrigger because of a poorly supported wireless chipset [14:35] i basically just tried setting sda1 to bootable now i'm going to go back to the slack disc and get rid of the udev rule and see what happens [14:36] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.21) joined ##slackware. [14:37] who knew this would be such a gigantic bitch to get working properly? raise your hands kids [14:37] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:37] I remeber saying good luck with that [14:38] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:39] Jewpermess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [14:39] lol i thought it might be a bit of a pain but not like this.. also, i think i found the cause, when i edited the 10-local.rules the last time it seems to have split the rule onto two lines [14:39] so i just commented everything in it and rebooted [14:39] paste your rule aftwards, pls [14:40] yep that was it [14:40] its booting right now [14:41] im going to edit it to make sure it all fits on one line, try again and if it doesnt work i'll paste it then [14:43] does anyone else see the problem here? http://www.geekalerts.com/usb-carabiner-flash-drive/ [14:43] big_bass (n=big_bass@189.192.41.100) left ##slackware. [14:43] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [14:44] paissad (n=paissad@38.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [14:44] nah its still giving it video1 :S [14:44] lol [14:46] nullboy, great! now I can finally take my openoffice files up to Mt Everest [14:46] but look at the thing. it blocks you from plugging it into laptops... [14:46] stupid [14:47] heh, true, didnt notice that [14:47] i_is_two (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:47] Nick change: i_is_two -> i_is_cat_ [14:47] Nick change: i_is_cat_ -> i_is_two [14:47] slackytude2, http://pastebin.com/m5a560a0a [14:47] you'd have to hang it off the edge of a table [14:48] nullboy, its probably meant to plugin while you hang from a cliff or something [14:48] i_is_two, way too many attrs [14:49] think so? they're from the device and first parent only which that guide you mentioned says is ok [14:49] as long as there isnt multiple parents [14:49] i will try and remove some [14:49] dguitar (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/dguitar) joined ##slackware. [14:50] this looks ok? SUBSYSTEM=="video4linux", ATTR{name}=="saa7133[0] video (Philips Tiger", NAME="v4l/video0", SYMLINK+="video0" OPTIONS+="last_rule" [14:50] Im not sure yet. And I usually only take one attr, given it is unique to the device [14:52] multimas (n=mimas@h87-241-117-143.dynamic.se.alltele.net) joined ##slackware. [14:52] Booyah. [14:52] Has anyone seen phyber hanging around(used to be phyber-op ~ 12 years ago?) [14:52] well here we go again... [14:52] macman_ (n=macman_@75.31.90.124) joined ##slackware. [14:53] eh [14:53] i_is_two (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:53] hi all .. anyone used partimage before ? [14:53] Meckafett: Aye. [14:54] macman_: Ask a question directly related to what you want to do. [14:54] Im not sure that you can include the ATTR{driver} as DRIVERS [14:54] ok my bad [14:54] brrrrr it is freezing in here :S [14:54] multimas: "/ns info" perhaps? [14:54] so .. i want to use partimage to backup a fat32 windows 9x harddrive .. after i do this i want to restore the image on a vista / NTS machine .. is this possible ? [14:54] BP{k}: sorry, how? my client does not have that alias. [14:54] BP{k}: Pleas elabourate. [14:55] multimas: ie: ask nickserv. [14:55] eRM PLEASE. [14:55] Oops. [14:55] BP{k}: Ah. [14:55] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:55] ping_alexzyp (n=ping@113.65.5.64) joined ##slackware. [14:55] omg i have a friggin nose hair that is so long its tickling the inside of my nose and making my eyes water :O getting old sucks [14:55] dude. [14:55] i_is_cat, what did udevtest show you? [14:55] BP{k}: Thank you. Silly me! [14:55] multimas: and do you mean phyber or ph|ber (which I believe are two different persons. [14:56] and ya, that last rule did not work either [14:56] BP{k}: Hah I know both of them. [14:56] i_is_cat, you are a cat... [14:56] BP{k}: But no, I meant phyber ;) [14:56] So both of them are known here eh [14:56] he's online according to my whois. :-) [14:56] Figures. [14:56] Damn ttraitors. [14:56] BP{k}: Indeed. [14:56] BP{k}: Haven't been on irc for a while. Silly, silly me. Pardon if I wasted your time :) [14:57] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:57] multimas: nah, no worries. :) [14:57] i_is_cat_ (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:57] i dont have udevtest [14:57] BP{k}: Awesome. So, is the BP an acronym for British Petrolium? :) [14:57] multimas: if only ;-) imagine the shiny hardware I could buy for that ;) [14:57] i_is_cat, yes,you do [14:58] dguitar (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/dguitar) left ##slackware. [14:58] udevadm test [14:58] BP{k}: Hah way ahead of ye ;) [14:58] alright lets see [14:58] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "Leaving." [14:58] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [14:58] syspath parameter missing [14:58] udevadm test --subsystem=video4linux [14:58] or stuff [14:58] that would be why [14:58] Hrm what are you guys trying to solve anyway? [14:59] I thought v4l was deprecated aeons ago. [14:59] everything i try is an unrecognized option [14:59] I better check the guidelines again before someone gets upset.. [15:00] Jewpermess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:00] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.218.125) joined ##slackware. [15:01] uh [15:02] isBEKaml (n=vats@122.164.250.235) left irc: "leaving" [15:02] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.218.125) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:02] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:02] harmattan (n=harmatta@82.159.57.159.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:02] Nice simple rules. Nice. [15:02] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Leaving" [15:02] i tried --subsystem=video4linux i tried =video =v4l and i tried them with quotes.. [15:02] i_is_cat, ? udevadm test /sys/block/hda [15:02] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [15:02] all unrecognized [15:02] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:03] vastina (i=jaird@64.215.163.98) joined ##slackware. [15:03] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.218.125) joined ##slackware. [15:03] slackytude2: that's interesting. I have never used udevadm. When was i introduced? (sorry I am a bit rusty) [15:03] slackytude2: when was _it_ introduced, sorry. [15:03] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.218.125) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:03] multimas: udev 130-ish [15:04] i_is_cat_: Please supply the exact error message and not an approximation [15:04] slackbunny (n=slackbun@173.9.254.98) joined ##slackware. [15:04] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.218.125) joined ##slackware. [15:04] multimas, its been in slack since udev was introduced, but the naming/callingconvetion changed with 12.2 [15:04] multimas: they are doing just fine [15:04] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Connection timed out [15:04] sluckz (n=sluckz@24-116-8-105.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:04] you never had to call udevadm directly, stuff like udevtest was symlinked to udevadm test [15:05] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:05] multimas, if you wanna know, the exact error is: test: unrecognized option `--subsystem=video4linux' [15:05] try udevadm test /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:10.0 [15:06] hda.. is the person really still on ATA? [15:06] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:06] I am -_- [15:06] would that not be sda? Sorry I don't even know what the problem is.. but diagnostics is fun [15:06] multimas: dude. [15:06] please [15:06] nullboy: Ok. [15:06] slackytude2, that brought up a whole pile of crap want me to pastebin it or was that just to make sure it works? [15:06] yes, pastebin it please [15:06] slackytude2: So back do udevadm - do you know of the mechanics behind it? [15:06] ping_alexzyp (n=ping@113.65.5.64) left irc: "Leaving" [15:06] multimas, its a compiled c programm [15:06] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.218.125) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:07] ping_alexzyp (n=ping@113.65.5.64) joined ##slackware. [15:07] :P [15:07] bash-3.1# udevadm test /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:10.0 [15:07] run_command: calling: test [15:07] udevadm_test: version 135 [15:07] This program is for debugging only, it does not run any program, [15:07] specified by a RUN key. It may show incorrect results, because [15:07] some values may be different, or not available at a simulation run. [15:07] udev_rules_new: rule file basename '/etc/udev/rules.d/40-alsa.rules' already added, ignoring '//lib/udev/rules.d/40-alsa.rules' [15:07] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.218.125) joined ##slackware. [15:07] udev_rules_new: rule file basename '/etc/udev/rules.d/40-slackware.rules' already added, ignoring '//lib/udev/rules.d/40-slackware.rules' [15:07] udev_rules_new: rule file basename '/etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules' already added, ignoring '//lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules' [15:07] udev_rules_new: rule file basename '/etc/udev/rules.d/55-hpmud.rules' already added, ignoring '//lib/udev/rules.d/55-hpmud.rules' [15:07] dont spam the channel, dude [15:07] hurray, spam [15:07] udev_rules_new: rule file basename '/etc/udev/rules.d/60-bluetooth.rules' already added, ignoring '//lib/udev/rules.d/60-bluetooth.rules' [15:07] ... [15:07] udev_rules_new: rule file basename '/etc/udev/rules.d/60-cdrom_id.rules' already added, ignoring '//lib/udev/rules.d/60-cdrom_id.rules' [15:07] Action: alienBOB wakes up slackboy [15:07] udev_rules_new: rule file basename '/etc/udev/rules.d/60-pcmcia.rules' already added, ignoring '//lib/udev/rules.d/60-pcmcia.rules' [15:07] seriously wtf is going on here [15:07] udev_rules_new: rule file basename '/etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-input.rules' already added, ignoring '//lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-input.rules' [15:08] udev_rules_new: rule file basename '/etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage-tape.rules' already added, ignoring '//lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage-tape.rules' [15:08] udev_rules_new: rule file basename '/etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules' already added, ignoring '//lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules' [15:08] udev_rules_new: rule file basename '/etc/udev/rules.d/61-persistent-storage-edd.rules' already added, ignoring '//lib/udev/rules.d/61-persistent-storage-edd.rules' [15:08] udev_rules_new: rule file basename '/etc/udev/rules.d/64-device-mapper.rules' already added, ignoring '//lib/udev/rules.d/64-device-mapper.rules' [15:08] STOP!!!!!!! [15:08] -_- [15:08] +q plz [15:08] udev_rules_n [15:08] Moron [15:08] nullboy: 'cat' obviously. [15:08] whoa [15:08] sorry that should've been the link lol [15:08] klipper does that to me sometimes sorry bout that lol [15:08] slackytude2: Hehe quite fascinating though. I have never really read a lot about udev from a programmers standpoint, I never really needed it. Fascinating stuff though. [15:08] http://pastebin.com/m1e520e9f [15:08] ##slackware: mode change '+o alienBOB' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [15:08] i_is_cat kicked from ##slackware by alienBOB: alienBOB [15:08] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:08] i_is_cat kicked from ##slackware by alienBOB: alienBOB [15:08] hackedhead: oh "obviously" ..of course [15:08] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:08] once its been entered its been entered, if i could stop it i would [15:08] i_is_cat one more time and I will ban you for a day [15:08] We have pastebin [15:09] ##slackware: mode change '+o slackboy' by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [15:09] alienBOB, i meant to paste the pastebin link, as i said my klipper does that to me sometimes, i'm sorry for the flood [15:09] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [15:09] ping_alexzyp (n=ping@113.65.5.64) left irc: Client Quit [15:09] i_is_cat, you run 12.2? [15:09] yes i do [15:10] ##slackware: mode change '-o alienBOB' by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [15:10] did you do an update from an earlier version? [15:10] D: [15:10] lol [15:11] A friend of mine switched from Slackware (10.0) to OS X recently. [15:11] alexzyp (n=ping@113.65.5.64) joined ##slackware. [15:11] i_is_cat, did you do an update from an earlier version? [15:11] well.. i did have 12.1 on here with /, /usr, and /home partitions and didnt format /home on the 12.2 install so i dont know if that counts as an upgrade or not.. [15:11] Said the package management was of interest. Huhu. [15:11] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.218.125) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:12] alexzyp (n=ping@113.65.5.64) left irc: Client Quit [15:12] i_is_cat_: That should be fine - the only paramount problem there would be personalised shell profiles. [15:12] [correct me if I am wrong nullboy "duuuude"] [15:12] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.218.125) joined ##slackware. [15:13] i_is_cat, Im wondering why the paste says it ignores rules found in /lib/udev/rules.d [15:13] multimas: You're really annoying so before this escalates I'm just going to put you on ignore. [15:13] :) [15:13] nullboy: good idea ;-) [15:13] And multimas try to think before you talk [15:13] i_is_cat, however, your rule in 10-local is ignored [15:14] alienBOB: May i ask people to correct me or is that also not thinking? [15:14] You were obviously being sarcastic and proviking a reaction [15:14] that is weird that there are so many that say they're being ignored.. [15:14] The reactions in ##slackware can be quite violent [15:14] i_is_cat, could you try again with /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:10.0/0000:04:09.0/video4linux/video1 [15:14] alienBOB: Yes. I was merely kidding, since I was not the initiator. But yeah. Indeed. [15:14] k one sec.. [15:14] and *not* spamming in here, pls [15:14] ^-^ [15:15] wow, whats with the caos around here today. [15:15] lol i'll paste it somewhere else before i paste in here just to be safe.. one sec [15:15] nullboy: I apologise for my silly behavior. For anyone observing. It was merely a pun, not an insult. It was, more importantly, a real question. [15:15] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:15] [which was indeed replied to by a true insult] [15:15] i_is_cat, anyway, there shouldnt be udev rules in /lib/udev [15:15] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:15] well i certainly never put any in there.. [15:16] slackytude2: for sure there are now rules in /lib/udev ! [15:16] Since slackware-current [15:16] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.218.125) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:16] chopp: ! [15:16] alienBOB, look at i_is_cat paste [15:16] chopp: you have good news right? lol [15:16] ok here is the link http://pastebin.com/m4ae81cb5 [15:16] he has rules there or Im reading it worng [15:16] wrong even [15:16] lol, I am reading a phoronix article about dell's mini 9 and dell has added its own crap to the ubuntu they're shipping :p (see http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=dell_mini9&image=dell_mini9_dellbuntu1_lrg ) [15:16] woo no flood yay for pasting 3 times before pasting it here [15:16] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.218.125) joined ##slackware. [15:17] slackbunny (n=slackbun@173.9.254.98) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:17] Camarade_Tux: If only we could get more ISV to do that... [15:17] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.218.125) left ##slackware. [15:17] Oh god now I remember why I never wanted to do udev stuff :| [15:17] slackbunny (n=slackbun@173.9.254.98) joined ##slackware. [15:17] Camarade_Tux: what they should add are links to linux.dell.com and easy libsmbios usage [15:17] nullboy: I gave up on that yesterday! I couldn't even get it working with madwifi. I'm going to try EAP-TTLS next. :P [15:18] up until now, i have not had a reason to touch udev stuff, everything else works fine [15:18] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) joined ##slackware. [15:18] chopp: thank goodness it's not just me [15:18] _Elric_ (n=elric_@87.19.250.210) joined ##slackware. [15:18] All those rules are related to the graphics card? So such things aren't even "static" any more? [15:18] man, I was lacking sleep over it. [15:18] wow I feel like I'm 100 years old. [15:18] chopp: me too, i totally screwed up my sleep patterns [15:19] <_Elric_> hello there, could anyone suggest me a good tool to recode files coming from windows? i see a lot of ^M in a text file... [15:19] multimas, nope, thats just verbose output of all rules [15:19] nullboy: I know haha. I got you started back on it too. [15:19] alexzyp (n=ping@113.65.5.64) joined ##slackware. [15:19] _Elric_: dos2unix [15:19] chopp: i had gone all tweaker style on it, was up until 4 am that night we started back on it haha [15:19] nullboy, I think it's there for you, and it even has links to ebay, various yahoo sites, box.net, ... http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=dell_mini9&image=dell_mini9_dellbuntu11_lrg [15:19] _Elric_: or vi [15:20] _Elric_: That's not an encoding issue, it's related to how programs interpret a specific set of ASCII codes, one representing a new line, and one representing carrige return (think of a classical old typewriter) [15:20] _Elric_: and by the way, Slackware has fromdos to remove the ^M [15:20] i_is_cat, parse_file: reading '//lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-v4l.rules' as rules file [15:20] <_Elric_> alienBOB: under vi, to type the ^M character what could I do ? [15:20] _Elric_: vim can easily do it by doing something like "ggESC:%s/\n//g" [15:20] i_is_cat, that file gets called [15:20] heri0n (n=heri0n@bas6-hamilton14-1176216338.dsl.bell.ca) left ##slackware. [15:20] <_Elric_> uhm, ok [15:20] <_Elric_> i'll try [15:20] _Elric_, fromdos [15:20] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.218.125) joined ##slackware. [15:21] nullboy: I was REALLY hoping I could have been successful with madwifi, then I'd have known that at least the certs were working. [15:21] hmmmmm [15:21] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.218.125) left ##slackware. [15:21] _Elric_, man fromdos [15:21] alienBOB: dos2unix? really? [15:21] No not really [15:21] do you think i should edit that file? [15:22] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:22] this is what that file contains: http://pastebin.com/m6c3349d6 [15:22] How did windows/DOS do it now again? CRLF? That's 10,13 right? [15:22] oh and it seems dell enables the yahoo toolbar in firefox so that on a small screen you have 6 *bars by default >< [15:22] _Elric_ (n=elric_@87.19.250.210) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.2.6.1"). [15:23] i_is_cat, yes, but Id remove all those rule files from /lub/udev they should not be there. you have duplicate rules and as you see, sometimes it uses the stuff found in /lib [15:23] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [15:24] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.218.125) joined ##slackware. [15:24] but didnt alienBOB say a little higher up that there are now rules in the /lib dir? or did i read that wrong? [15:24] slackytude2: But the rules are called by udev when the device is detected, regardless of if it is plug and play, right? And thank you for being so patient :) [15:24] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [15:25] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:25] multimas, yes, I will apply the rules to the devices found when you do a udevadm trigger [15:25] s/I/it [15:25] which is done at boot time [15:25] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.218.125) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:25] slackytude2: Ahh. Interesting. [15:26] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.218.125) joined ##slackware. [15:26] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.218.125) left ##slackware. [15:26] alienBOB, are the rule files in /lib/udev now? [15:27] Wow soulwax girls are crazy. [15:27] MMmmmm. [15:28] slackytude2: yes, in 12.2 [15:28] oi [15:28] Nick change: hearl -> Gatto [15:28] alienBOB, arent you getting conflicting rules then? [15:28] like i_is_cat has [15:29] The /etc/udev directory is now meant to add your own rules. And /lib/udev should only be touched by upgradepkg and friends [15:29] So it changed? Would that matter if the old fs was overwritten? Just an old idiot babbling here. [15:29] oh, its the other way around then. he has the system files in /etc/udev too [15:29] slackytude2: of course, everything in /etc/udev has precedence over a similar rule in /lib/udev [15:29] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "leaving" [15:30] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:30] alienBOB, so you would have 40-slackware.rules in /etc/udev AND /lib/udev ? [15:30] Mm that sounds reasonable. [15:30] slackytude2: you can have that yes [15:30] alexzyp (n=ping@113.65.5.64) left irc: "Leaving" [15:30] But it would be a bad upgrade then [15:31] I was guessing so [15:31] so.... what would be the best course of action here? [15:31] Read http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT of course [15:31] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [15:31] i_is_cat, well, the sad part is that your local rules wont pick up the device [15:31] Anyone updating his Slackware should read that file [15:32] It would have explained your udev issue [15:32] alexzyp (n=ping@113.65.5.64) joined ##slackware. [15:32] Look for "As usual, there are changes in udev packaging that need mentioning..." and the part that follows [15:33] When was 8.0.0 released? 1999? 2000? [15:33] Look it up [15:33] alienBOB, yeah, found it. whats worse I read it before [15:34] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: Client Quit [15:34] alienBOB: mm indeed will do later. Just thought someone might have had it in their recent memory. [15:34] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [15:34] thats not really the issue, tho. the 10-local rules should have precedence anyway [15:34] Never attribute to [15:35] malice what can be sufficiently explained by stupidity --Linus Torvalds [15:35] 2001 [15:35] mMM [15:36] so when it says "move the /etc/rc.d/rc.udev.new over" that means i should replace the rc.udev with rc.udev.new ? am i understanding that correctly? [15:36] lol [15:36] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:36] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:38] lawlezz (n=lawless@125.27.165.55.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) joined ##slackware. [15:38] hi all [15:38] Action: multimas waves [15:39] Care for some Côtes du Rhône?! [15:39] i_is_cat: when you do an upgrade and you end up with .new files you should always diff them to see what changed and consult the UPGRADE and Changes docs about it. in this case, yes...bu back up your old one first ;) [15:39] multimas: sure, send over a box. ;-) [15:39] risperidon (n=risperid@189.77.60.84) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:39] BP{k}: TIS NOT A BOX. [15:39] ;) [15:39] multimas: but boxes of wine .. makes for easier storage! [15:39] BP{k}: perhaps dealextreme has some :) [15:39] i_is_cat, `slackpkg new-config` will do it for you. [15:40] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:40] BP{k}: You are wise! :) [15:40] slava_dp: only if he uses slackpkg and it is already setup [15:40] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:40] multimas: http://shopping.msn.co.uk/reviews/waitrose-cotes-du-rh%C3%B4ne-villages-france-3-litre-box-pack-of-4/itemid13254456/?itemtext=itemname:waitrose-cotes-du-rh%C3%B4ne-villages-france-3-litre-box-pack-of-4 <-- HAH! HAH! And HAH again1 [15:40] nullboy, well yeah [15:40] ooops extemly large link failage. |: [15:40] gooph (n=chatzill@mail.gwiinc.com) joined ##slackware. [15:40] k im gonna try that [15:40] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:41] Action: slava_dp thinks that a one-line setup is not such a big deal [15:41] BP{k}: Oh I am well aware of the box - however the box requires more resources [15:41] BP{k}: (In the form of plastic credits) [15:41] slava_dp: it's not but we can't assume he uses that. [15:41] alexzyp (n=ping@113.65.5.64) left irc: "Leaving" [15:41] multimas: agreed. [15:42] BP{k}: I am having a blast here. Drinking this stuff and playing the prodigy at a totally unacceptable volume. My neighbours have been partying for almost five weeks straight and my speakers are SO much better than his. [15:42] BP{k}, yo [15:42] BP{k}, you watched the Red Dwarf stuff? [15:42] slackytude2: howdy :) [15:42] slackytude2: of course :) [15:42] lawlezz (n=lawless@125.27.165.55.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) left ##slackware ("bore"). [15:42] slackytude2: Se1-6 are the best :) [15:42] BP{k}, ^-^ how did you like it? [15:42] it was interesting and fun, but not as good I think as the old stuff. [15:43] multimas, no argument [15:43] BP{k}, It was fun but too short [15:43] anyway be back in a bit. Dinner is being served :) [15:43] right [15:43] ok so i did the slackpkg new-config and then ran the udevadm test command .. this is my result http://pastebin.com/m16373c19 [15:43] slackytude2: you know I only knew 1-6 existed for about 8 years until about four months ago when I mentioned the oddnesss of the ending in se6 to a friend(phyber) and he informed me of the remainders.. [15:44] multimas, heh [15:44] it looks like its still using /dev/video1 [15:44] i_is_cat, 10-local rules isnt used [15:44] it finds a match with 50 [15:45] its not? i thought alienBOB said the /etc/udev/rules.d is for manually entered rules.. [15:45] eh, I wasnt precise [15:45] I is used, but the rule doesnt match [15:45] Shuren (n=Devilman@host62-170-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:45] s/I/it [15:45] hmmmm ok [15:46] what is the rule now? [15:46] Action: slackytude2 wonder why everytime he tries to help with udev it becomes a massacre [15:46] slackytude2: it's not you ;) [15:46] what is the rule listed in my 10-local? [15:46] aye [15:46] nullboy, thanks for saying so ^-^ [15:47] slackytude2: remember our little foray into udev...when we realized that udev works on /dev...not /sys [15:47] its just this: SUBSYSTEM=="video4linux", ATTR{name}=="saa7133[0] video (Philips Tiger", NAME="v4l/video0", SYMLINK+="video0" OPTIONS+="last_rule" [15:47] DOH [15:47] same as before.. [15:47] nullboy, yeah [15:47] nullboy, I was thinking of that little episode [15:47] lol [15:48] i ended up mounting usbfs with my own options as a fix [15:48] hmmm? [15:49] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [15:51] macman_ (n=macman_@75.31.90.124) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:51] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.22) joined ##slackware. [15:51] DRIVERS=="saa7134" NAME="v4l/video" OPTIONS="last_rule" [15:51] that wont work [15:52] you tried? [15:52] last time i tried something so generic it used /dev/radio0 [15:52] oi,right [15:52] i mean i can certainly try it but im pretty sure thats what will happen [15:53] ATTRS{device}=="0x7133" DRIVERS=="saa7134" NAME="v4l/video" OPTIONS="last_rule" [15:53] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "leaving" [15:54] that would be the same thing.. here: http://pastebin.com/m267df91e [15:54] eh, thats not funny [15:55] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:55] especially since the radio is part of video4linux too [15:55] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:55] :S [15:56] KERNEL=="video*" DRIVERS=="saa7134" NAME="v4l/video" OPTIONS="last_rule" [15:56] dude.. i think that did it [15:56] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Client Quit [15:57] http://pastebin.com/m5ebd0418 i see /dev/v4l/video0 now [15:58] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:58] im going to reboot to test it now [15:58] well, at least the 10-local rule picks it up now [15:58] wait [15:58] ok [15:59] udevadm control --reload-rules [15:59] udevadm trigger [15:59] Nick change: yozzer -> bgeddy [16:00] hmm i dunno.. take a look at this: http://pastebin.com/m240e4687 [16:00] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [16:01] did you do OPTIONS="last_rule" or OPTIONS+="last_rule" [16:02] i've been trying spcagui because it defaults to /dev/video0 and if the tuner is on video0 it shows a big fuzzy box, if its my webcam it shows nothing.. gspca is a little weird for some reason.. anyways, now i try an spcagui -d /dev/video1 and it says permission denied... :S [16:03] i just checked it was set as: OPTIONS="last_rule" i tried addnig the + and doing the control and trigger again i get the same result [16:03] and how are the permissions on it? [16:04] also, the name is /dev/v4l/video afaik [16:05] /dev/video and /dev/video1 are both root root /dev/video0 is root video and under /dev/v4l there is only video theres no video0 or video1 [16:05] KERNEL=="video*" DRIVERS=="saa7134" NAME="v4l/video"<<<<<<< OPTIONS="last_rule" [16:06] because we set it to /dev/v4l/video [16:06] no 0 or 1 [16:07] k well i need it to be video0 so mythtv will pick it up properly.. lemme try it here... and thats weird..... [16:07] yeah, well, I wasnt paying attention when I wrote that. the rule gets picked up and the device created, tho [16:07] more than before [16:08] check this out.. http://pastebin.com/m532c9c94 why is it saying "/dev/v4l/vi" ? [16:08] slackytude2's udev-fu strenghtens...... [16:08] maybe its a program limitation i guess.. [16:08] slava_dp, :P [16:08] i_is_cat, no clue, probably change the name rule to something sensible [16:08] slackytude2, :) [16:08] Ekc (n=iskar@79-100-14-45.btc-net.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [16:09] coz if I was a betting man, Id say SpacGui sux [16:09] oh it really does [16:11] koolniczka (n=nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) joined ##slackware. [16:12] i brought up mythtv-setup went to the tuner section it sees /dev/video0 as the saa7134 so i think we're all good.. but i've got to get it reconfigured and see what happens here.. [16:12] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-74-109-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [16:13] cool, successful udev rule and no corpse to hide [16:13] hooray for great Justice [16:13] Nick change: fuzzix_ -> fuzzix [16:13] speak for yourself... i have too many corpses to hide :( [16:13] O_o [16:13] Action: slackytude2 goes digging some holes in the ground [16:13] ya slackytude2 man i really appreciate the help that was awesome [16:14] anyways, Im away for a bit, bbiab [16:14] i just hope everything i working.. scanning channels seems to be taking a while.. [16:14] i_is_cat, you owe me a beer :P [16:14] dude i'd buy you a case if you were here [16:14] lol [16:14] Ill be back in a while, tell me if something weird crops up [16:15] for sure thanks again! :) [16:15] you might need to set permissions, since we did a last_rule [16:15] might try it without that opton too [16:15] anyway [16:15] Action: slackytude2 wanders off [16:21] froosch (n=froschi@147.172.224.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:21] froosch (n=froschi@147.172.224.61) joined ##slackware. [16:21] i am so tired i dont even know where i name is |-S [16:23] fireking (n=STRESSAD@201.86.181.169.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:23] macavity: I know the feeling. Been up 25hrs now. :( [16:23] hi.. [16:23] lo.. [16:23] chopp: go to bed! [16:24] chopp: staying up for 36h burns your brain for about the same as 7-8 regular days of intensive study [16:24] sluckz (n=sluckz@24-116-8-105.cpe.cableone.net) left ##slackware. [16:25] mine must have caught fire by now then [16:25] what are the best file system for desktop ? reiserFS, ext3, xfs and jsf ? [16:26] yes. [16:26] XFS [16:26] JFS [16:26] It holds my mp3 collection nicely [16:26] i use reiser ext3 and xfs so i'd consider them pretty good [16:26] fight.. rsrs.. [16:26] fireking: unless you have some specific needs or know you need something special just use ext3 for now [16:26] macavity: yes I agree. I used to have a job where I was up for long periods of time on a regular basis and it was hell. Awsome money though. [16:27] fireking: i am with nullboy on that one [16:27] fireking: i don't mean this to come off in a mean way; if you have to ask that question, stick with ext3 [16:27] slackboy should kick people if they've been on irc for too long ;) [16:27] Action: eviljames would be kicked [16:28] nullboy: I disagree wholeheartedly [16:28] Camarade_Tux: except himself? [16:28] fireking: and if you *do* have special needs for your desktop filesystem, i would reccomend that you study wikipedia and excercise lots of google-fu to gain your own understanding of things.. asking on IRC means getting biased info :P [16:28] nullboy: That question should be *encouraged* [16:28] eviljames: yeah? cool. whatever [16:28] heh [16:28] nullboy: Would you rather a question like: "How do I open firefox??~ omgzslack is hardtd" [16:29] nullboy yes... i reading, the ext3 is slower than other systems files [16:29] eviljames: did you miss the first part of my statement? [16:29] nullboy: perhaps. [16:29] eviljames: i think nullboy was trying to say "unless you have a reason *not* to use the default... use the bloody default" ;-) [16:29] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.153.104) joined ##slackware. [16:30] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-86-31-98-34.popl.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:30] fireking: ext3 is a good alround filesystem. there are a lot of outdated sites who claim that it is slow. back in the day that was true, but not now. modern ext3 is actually quite good. [16:30] It's still slow for me [16:31] Oh come on [16:31] fireking: and one thing is sure: if things *do* blow up, there are a lot more, and a lot better, tools for recovering ext3 data [16:31] How high-end are you, seriously [16:31] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Connection timed out [16:31] multimas: me? [16:31] straterra: yes.. but you run raid0 on three drives :P [16:31] macavity: not any more :P [16:31] damn :P [16:31] I run a 4 drive raid 0 at work now [16:31] heh, raid0 is the best of raid levels. It tells you exactly how much data you'll get back in case of drive failure. 0. [16:31] straterra: Yeah. Until you do a branched analysis of what is taking up speed, you really should not be so quick to judge. [16:32] eviljames: there is nothing wrong with using whatever FS you randomly pick to use but if someone asks "what fs should i use" it just begs to be answered with "the default". A user who is unfamiliar with filesystems will be able to find more support from people and tools if they stick to ext3. that doesn't mean someone can't try different filesystems, it just means that to be on the safe side they should stick to the defaults. after all they are [16:32] multimas: Uhm..When I notice a very REAL speed increase with XFS..then yeah [16:32] ext3 is good for general purpose stuff [16:32] straterra: I don't actually thinik that is even a valid point. What PART is slow? read? write? scattered io? WHAT? [16:32] nullboy: Those are all valid reasons to recommend the default, no doubt. [16:32] I had some data loss to ext3 [16:32] macavity hum, thanks for help... i understand now [16:32] all the other ones are for use by more experienced users (which is essentially what nullboy just said) [16:32] multimas: reads..writes...everything is slow compared to more up to date filesystems [16:32] straterra: creating tonnes of small files? Large files? Deleting chunnks? ... [16:33] if this LVM craps out on me, I'm going back to reiser [16:33] i use xfs on my drives with media like videos and music i just heard its better for that sort of thing and i like it have no complaints [16:33] straterra: Grasshopper.. [16:33] so, use it :) [16:33] now if someone comes in asking "i need ludicrous FS speed with 50 million 1k files"...the answer would be different [16:33] nullboy: I guess I read the question differently than you did. I figured he was sparking a discussion on the merits of varying filesystems. [16:33] reiser has, insofar, worked very well for me.. but i have 0 hopes of ever getting my data back in case something crashes [16:34] thus i use other filesystems on my back up media :P [16:34] but compiing on reiserfs *is* faster [16:34] i_is_cat_: XFS' performance is typically tied to larger files, however there's some CPU overhead involved. [16:34] *compiling [16:34] macavity: That is not true either. Depends on the fault. Also, reiserfs is ridiculously good at large quantities of small files. I am however not making a point in any direction here.. [16:34] fireking, use reiserfs or xfs [16:35] Or both. [16:35] slava_dp i use reiserfs... [16:35] There's nothing saying you can't use reiser for /etc and xfs for music/ or pictures/ or the like... [16:35] agree [16:36] I'd go with nullboy here. [16:36] Action: slava_dp does the same [16:36] (my rival? :D) [16:36] nullboy definitely makes some valid points. [16:36] the nice thing about ext3, is that it's supported under just about any kernel you'd ever come across [16:36] multimas: i said: *i* have 0 hope. That is to say, i dont trust the recovery tools, nor the fs itself to hold critical data... but who in their right mind puts critical data on a 7200RPM cheep ass laptop drive anyhow? :P [16:36] If something happens, ext3 is the safest bet because it is by far the filesystem most people know about. [16:36] true [16:37] eviljames: i cover them with my hat though [16:37] macavity: The only way to store critical data is in bedrock. Everyone knows that! Ask the dinosaurs! [16:37] multimas: EVERYTHING [16:37] straterra: I'm sorry are you hitting on me? [16:37] I'm not. [16:37] reserfs, xfs and jfs work with b-trees, and ext3 not [16:37] straterra: Oh. :( [16:37] You asked what workload..I said all work loads [16:37] reiserfs* [16:37] Action: Necos stores the location of multimas' body in bedrock under the hudson bridge [16:37] multimas: exactly... and most the time my ~ holds nothing but unpacked source anyhow [16:38] macavity: Mmmm. [16:38] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:38] thus it is formatted with reiser [16:39] macavity: Yes I am myself a reiserfs whore for at least 10 years. I have recently switched to ext3 though, mauinly due to (obviously poor) maintenance issues. I have never lost any data on a reiserfs system, not v3, not v4. Lost lots of shit on ext2 and 3 though. So it depends, doesn't it :) [16:39] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:39] macavity: Then again this is a CLASSICAL argument. Tomatos tomatoes [16:39] ext3 also has that stupid ass, annoying "ZOMG ITS BEEN MOUNTED TOO MANY TIMES, LETS CHECKS IT!!111!1oneone!!11" feature [16:40] straterra, ++ [16:40] So again I stick with nullboy here. "If you do not know what you want, then ext3 is a good first choice" [16:40] And that "It's been too long since the last check! FORCE CHECK!" [16:40] I'm not 4 years old..I can manage my filesystem just fine ty [16:40] reiserfs has a couple of known glaring issues. [16:40] That's a pretty good thing though. [16:40] Of which I can only remember one. [16:40] cHiOs (n=chio@CPE-65-29-166-235.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:40] No, its not a good thing [16:40] Hardware does not predictably fail. [16:40] I am thinking more like [16:41] It's not a good thing when it randomly makes a router take 45 minutes to boot in instead of 2 [16:41] multimas: i have never seen neither reiserfs (my favorite desktop fs) nor ext* blow up... and i dont want to either ;-) [16:41] "OH NOES 1 in 100 TIMES I BOOT I HAVE TO WAIT 5 MINUTES OMG GET A BLOODY CUP OF TEA" [16:41] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.22) left irc: [16:41] macavity: ;)' [16:41] straterra: why does your router have like a 200GiB drive? [16:41] Maybe you are somewhere where 45 minutes of downtime for a fsck is acceptable. [16:41] Or even a drive at all [16:41] I am not. [16:41] that sounds plain bloody stupid. [16:41] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [16:41] the router has multiple terribytes [16:42] Bad architectural design then. [16:42] And it doesnt matter its role..what if its a file server? The extended boot time becomes acceptable? [16:42] straterra: there is one and only one reason I use ext3 on some systems, last time I tried xfs it was broken on 2 of my architectures, but on x86 I use xfs or maybe jfs. I've tested jfs and it seems to universally work without problems on all architectures I have [16:42] You reboot your router often enough to force a fsck? [16:42] eviljames: no..power outages [16:42] straterra: Yes, because if it finds a fault even once in ten thousand times you will be happy about it. [16:42] straterra: That sounds like a good argument for UPS [16:42] multimas: no I wont [16:42] eviljames: there is one [16:42] zomg intellectual discussion :)))) [16:43] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [16:43] eviljames: The issue happens when the router has a large uptime..and then the ups battery drains [16:43] the UPS can only last for so long, at the point you have apcupsd shut the system down [16:43] straterra: Ok :) You are using subjective argumentation. That's fine for you. [16:43] next boot..ext3 goes "OMG! Its been 200 days. FSCK!" [16:43] fireking: ext3 has b-trees too, by the way [16:44] why are you discussing b-trees anyway? How is that relevant? [16:44] nophis (n=amenophi@unaffiliated/nophis) joined ##slackware. [16:44] Yo face is a B-treee [16:44] froosch (n=froschi@147.172.224.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:44] [joke] [16:45] i only mentioned it because fireking said that previously and nobody pointed out it was not true [16:45] rg3: That makes you sexy. Kudos. [16:45] Buggaboo (n=bug@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:45] b-tree is a fancy word. how many people know what it actually is? :) [16:45] rg3 thanks for information.. [16:45] Action: slava_dp does not care [16:46] balanced tree [16:46] man, that was scarry [16:46] Beautiful tree [16:46] damnit [16:46] balanced, symmetrical, beautiful - gorgeous. [16:46] my flatemates mother called from the states, wanted to know if I know anything about the whereabouts of him [16:47] he hasnt been seen for two months now, people call me all the time [16:47] rg3 the ext2 that does`t work [16:47] she was asking me how his grades are at universisty. I tried to tell her that I didnt see him there for like a whole year now [16:47] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-240-220.glfd.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Connection timed out [16:47] not a nice conversation at all [16:48] slava_dp: what it is is quite complex to explain, but it is a way of ordering data. [16:48] fireking: what? [16:48] I thought it was beyer tree [16:48] or bayer [16:49] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-4335bc0d9c021593) joined ##slackware. [16:49] slackytude2, :( wow [16:49] slava_dp: On a more interesting note than file systems, the Doom engine uses b-trees to represent parts of maps. [16:49] rg3 ext2 is the filesystem that does not work with b-tree [16:50] slava_dp, wow? [16:50] fireking: oh, and many others [16:50] rg3 yes.. [16:50] slackytude2: yeah, that's the man who invented them [16:50] slava_dp: (although afaik it is not a BALANCED b-tree) [16:50] rg3, aye [16:50] slackytude2, i mean, you did not see your flatmate for months, wow [16:51] slava_dp, well, two months, yeah. strictly speaking, its an ex-flatmate since we moved out there tho [16:51] slackytude2, should you not report the issue to someone? [16:51] slava_dp, looks like that is the only option left [16:52] i`m new user linux, i wonder why too.. [16:52] he stored his stuff at a friends place and hasnt come around to get it. as far as I know he only has a travel bag with some clothers [16:52] I was kinda angry with him since I had to deal with the landlord and paying ungodly amounts of money [16:53] no job either [16:54] Age being? [16:54] 28 [16:54] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[17:06] slackytude2: But more seriously, perhaps you should talk to someone [you know well] about how you feel. Might make you feel better. [17:07] multimas, I was trying to call a ladyfriend of mine and will do so again later. thx for caring tho [17:07] no need to be afraid I go all emotional on you [17:07] slackytude2: Haha. HAH. You can't beat me, sir! [17:08] I shall die trying then [17:08] slackytude2: Any time my man. Or woman. Indeed, do try - for a laugh of course. [17:08] Action: slackytude2 lurks in the shadows [17:08] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:08] you wont know what hit you man [17:09] Looking forward to it. Haha. [17:09] slackytude2: Do indeed try calling again. It really does suck when something like [that] this happens. [17:09] For everyone around I might add. [17:10] it does. he is in trouble and I tried to do stuff, back when we still were flatmates [17:11] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:11] like, when they cut off our electricity when he didnt pay the bills [17:11] that wasnt nice [17:11] slackytude2: So was he just an asshole or did he have problems? [17:11] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:11] [a real question, pardon the language] [17:11] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:11] the latter, Im afaid. I can deal with assholes, not with people who dont give a damn either way [17:12] Action: multimas nods [17:12] Just probing :o [17:12] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:12] slackytude2: So. Drugs, then? [17:13] nope, I can deal with junkies too. he could spend like 16 hour in front of the tube tho, no matter if tv or internet [17:13] slackytude2: Depression? [17:13] I'd say so, yes [17:13] but Im no doctor [17:14] well, depressed is reasonably simple is it not [17:14] Action: slackytude2 nods [17:14] true enough [17:14] The disorder causing it is probably profoundly difficult to pinpoint though. [17:15] slackytude2: Well, that sucks. [17:15] Action: multimas pats slackytude2 on the back [17:15] TecROc (n=TecR0c@acetow2.lnk.telstra.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:16] SM177Y (i=SM177Y__@204.38.197.11) joined ##slackware. [17:17] MrDusty (n=dusty@217.155.141.46) joined ##slackware. [17:17] "you're just jealous the voices inside my head only talk to me" - author unknown :D [17:18] nophis (n=amenophi@unaffiliated/nophis) left irc: "Leaving" [17:18] haha. [17:18] What is a good pdf reader thats preferably on sbo ? [17:18] xpdf? [17:18] :> comes with slackware [17:18] thanks [17:18] okular? [17:18] ah cool [17:18] MrDusty, epdfreader [17:18] on sbo [17:18] Pig_Pen: Nice one [17:18] MrDusty: sbo? [17:18] slackbuilds.org [17:19] or epdview.... but okular is way better :) [17:19] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [17:19] The awesome thing with xpdf is that it works and is standards compliant [17:19] apvlv ftw ! [17:19] the thing that sucks with it is that it sucks. [17:19] or kpdf if you're using the stable version [17:19] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-154-107-112.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:19] haha kdpf [17:19] Action: vastina coughs bloat [17:19] xpdf is what i mostly use, unless kde/konqueror desides to use kpdf [17:19] apvlv is the only pdf viewer I've been happy with :) [17:19] Indeed, kpdf is *excellent* if you have the libs [17:19] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-74-109-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [17:20] vastina: Try actobat ;) [17:20] acro even [17:20] or like [17:20] "Oh my I want futuristic SPACE-style fetatures, such as subpixel hinting and, OH MY GOD, PRINTING!!" [17:20] multimas: xpdf does it's job [17:20] features even. [17:20] :) [17:20] vastina: if its job is "show document", yes, most of the time. [17:21] monstro (i=1000@189.111.20.113) joined ##slackware. [17:21] okular ftw! [17:21] damn i'm excited :> [17:21] Action: Camarade_Tux votes again for apvlv :) [17:21] i've got someone custom designing a bed for me atm :> [17:21] multimas: i prefer read-write [17:21] vastina: if its job is "print document" or "find data properly" or "extract text properly" or any such space-age(TM) tech, then no. [17:21] xpdf is the quick and dirty viewer [17:21] yep [17:21] and it is indeed complete awesomeness. [17:21] multimas: which is why i like it [17:21] kpdf is bloat [17:21] kde is bloat [17:21] I am *not* arguing this point. :) [17:22] cHiOs (n=chio@CPE-65-29-166-235.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:22] vastina: Again that depends on what the task is. [17:22] nor am i, i was merely stating my opinion on why i don't like it, sans much elaboration [17:22] vastina: For example, mention a single LESS bloated app(except for xpdf) than kpdf. [17:22] If you say evince I am going to throw up. [17:22] remember in school, when your doing maths [17:23] Nope [17:23] and you think you'll never need to know half this shit [17:23] Never did maths in Schol. [17:23] school, sorry, [17:23] :) [17:23] i found myself trying to work out pythagoras theory [17:23] hhaha [17:23] When I got a maths question I'd do them in BASIC [17:23] and I'd get an F for it [17:23] So I stopped doing maths in school. [17:24] never did "maths" in school, must be a briton or a commonwealth [17:24] Well kpdf is no more in KDE4 - okular is there as slava_dp said [17:24] vastina: rofl. [17:24] "math" [17:24] One of those. [17:24] alienBOB: Noooooooo! [17:24] multimas: likewise [17:24] okular >> kpdf [17:24] Very much so [17:24] acidchild: Continue your story though [17:24] NaCl: Really? [17:25] It's much faster than kpdf [17:25] absolutely [17:25] Strykar (i=wakka@gateway/tor/x-d8d2a51efdfd8a3c) joined ##slackware. [17:25] NaCl: REALLY? [17:25] multimas: oh, i'm just designing a RF tower from scratch [17:25] needed to work out how much tubing i needed. [17:25] TecR0c (n=TecR0c@acetow2.lnk.telstra.net) left irc: Connection timed out [17:25] multimas: yes [17:25] gv! [17:25] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [17:25] acidchild: RF tower? Elaborate (yes I know what RF means) [17:25] RF Tower? what frequencies? [17:25] Action: Camarade_Tux goes to bed [17:25] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:26] NaCl: That is impressive. kpdf is very very efficient. [17:26] 24Ghz/5Ghz/2.4Ghz [17:26] alienBOB: Have you made any progress on the ACPI scripts for the Eee 1000H? [17:26] chance22: did not get a chance yet [17:26] multimas: KPDF often was slowish on my box. Okular is generally faster, from what I noticed. [17:26] alienBOB: Ahh, that's okay then. Thanks. [17:27] NaCl: kpdf is the fastest I have ever used, so this is interesting news to me. I will make sure to check it out. [17:27] can't you get adobe acrobat for linux now? [17:27] multimas: i came in firing my mouth in boredom, what are we trying to accomplish with pdf's again? reading? writing? searching? looking for robustness or speed... [17:27] acrobat reader is teh suck [17:27] Necos: [and yes, that includes a comparison with xpdf, since xpdf is shit and uses X to render shit) [17:27] ] even, hah [17:27] are you wanting to stack some high gain antennas [17:28] vastina: Oh me? Nothing, I did the same as you in fact! I have no idea what the original discussion was about :D [17:28] speaking of which [17:28] oh ok [17:28] I have a directional 2.4Ghzish antenna here somewhere [17:28] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [17:28] I wonder what it'd be worth on ebay or similar. [17:29] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.179.81) joined ##slackware. [17:29] what DBi? [17:29] ? >.> [17:29] the more the merrier :D [17:29] I have absolutely no idea [17:29] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Client Quit [17:29] I know nothing of such things [17:29] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.179.81) joined ##slackware. [17:29] I am just an old drunk C programmer :( [17:29] what kinda mental retardation are you talkin about multimas? i didn't say shit about xpdf >.> [17:30] Necos: no talking about, he is.. [17:30] Necos: Ah well there you go man. [17:30] multimas: so are you a commonwealth or a parliament slave? [17:30] :] [17:30] multimas: what kind of directional antenna? yagi? dish? log periodic? [17:30] cantenna? [17:30] rofl cantenna. :> [17:30] Action: acidchild loves offset dishs. [17:30] Pig_Pen: mine do 13.5KW ERP [17:30] >:D [17:30] TecR0c (n=TecR0c@acetow2.lnk.telstra.net) joined ##slackware. [17:31] he just mentions something to me, and i was afk >.> [17:31] 13.5 KW!!?!! wow, are you wanting to roast some cattle? [17:31] people :D [17:31] tasty tasty murder [17:31] Pig_Pen: All Good questions. As I said - no expeert. Id say Yagi but cantenna fits perfectly [17:31] Pig_Pen: "pringles antenna" but not pringles. [17:31] cantenna then [17:31] One minute ill go fetch it [17:31] worth 0$ [17:31] :> [17:32] acidchild: Mmm sounds likely [17:32] let's see if this e-cheese thing works [17:32] those work good from what i hear, but for outdoor use i would prefer a yagi with about 10, 15 to 20 elements on top of a tower with a rotator [17:33] 15 20?!?! [17:33] how the fuck are you going to be harmonic on 2.4 with 20 elements? [17:33] gowd damn. [17:33] since wifi yagi has such short elements a 20 element yagi would be practical [17:33] yep. [17:33] 2.4 = 2400/20 [17:34] ? [17:34] what kinda math is that [17:34] lol [17:34] 12mm plate or 10mm with 2mm gap [17:34] the gain would be incredible, you would be able to monitor wifi for a few miles [17:34] thats very rough maths! [17:34] http://pulia.nu/tmp/cantenna.jpg best picture ever. [17:35] (pardon post - I did not see anything against a single line in the guidelines?) [17:35] looks like PVC pipe [17:35] probly has a yagi inside... eh [17:35] PVC would be better than a pringles can [17:35] multimas: take the cap off. [17:35] Pig_Pen: depends on what the PVC is for? waterproofing? or reflector :> [17:35] Should I proceed by sticking my knob in it? [17:35] i bet water proofing, ice can ruin harmonics at Ghz freq. [17:36] multimas: yes, with it turned on. kthx [17:36] heh [17:36] it is glued on actualy [17:36] actually [17:36] durh [17:36] It is quite properly sealed at both ends. [17:36] acidchild: I wouldnt glue it myself [17:36] http://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=MFJ-1800 this looks decent [17:36] Id pop a plastic bag over it and tapei t. [17:36] that pic looks like someone was busy with their own knob [17:37] see Pig_Pen thats 'plate' [17:37] waterproofing/weatherproofing [17:37] thats not technicaly a true yagi [17:37] TecR0c (n=TecR0c@acetow2.lnk.telstra.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:37] tcossuto (n=root@c-71-59-18-106.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:37] Speaking of stuff like thiis [17:38] true, not like the traditional ones i have seen for HF/VHF/UHF [17:38] Pig_Pen: http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=21730 [17:38] this, sorry, my keyboard(eeepc 901) + buggy wifi + remote ssh = bad typing [17:38] Pig_Pen: ever seen LF antennas? [17:38] :P [17:38] 2-3Miles long copper rods... [17:38] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.153.104) left irc: "Leaving." [17:38] So are you guys interested in any other oddball equipment? For I am trying to sell as much crap as possible [17:39] lol [17:39] hah [17:39] LF? [17:39] multimas: how far do you want to reach and how focused do you require the signal mate? [17:39] Low freq. [17:39] hello guys I need some help. I've just installed the most recent slackware and can not get into a graphical interface. I used to use 'X' or 'Xorg' but these just bring me to a blank screen with my cursor on this version [17:39] Pig_Pen: stuff that goes under ground... they use it for sub marines... (maybe still to this day) [17:39] (oldschool consoles, machines, spare PC parts, electronics, astronomical equipment, ..) [17:39] tcossuto: "startx" [17:39] like below 100KHZ [17:39] multimas, waddya have [17:39] multimas: got any microscopes? [17:39] fuck me, you're selling it, nvm [17:39] acidchild: Unfortunately not :( [17:39] thanks! [17:39] Pig_Pen: aye... [17:39] multimas: :< [17:39] Action: vastina feels stupid and goes back to programming [17:39] acidchild: Three telescopes tho! [17:39] post a list [17:39] i would imagine those antennas would be HUGE considering the frequencies they have to resonate at [17:40] Pig_Pen: 2-3-4miles long [17:40] 1/2-1' thick [17:40] solid copper. [17:40] tcossuto (n=root@c-71-59-18-106.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:40] Strykar: I had an old lost from a few years ago but some asshat stole my digital camrea so I have not got around to it yet [17:40] but hrm [17:40] lol vastina [17:40] whew! i would hate to be the one that had to set adjust the SWR on it [17:40] rofl :P [17:40] indeed, imagin the coil inside the SWR [17:40] that would be like 2m long.. :-P [17:41] that much copper cost a nice hunk of change [17:41] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:41] Pig_Pen: ;) lets go [17:41] on a salvage. [17:41] http://pulia.nu/sale/__old/ the old thing [17:41] yeah, let hope we dont end up in Ft. Levenworth [17:41] that is.. 4 years old though [17:42] so lots of new goodies hah [17:42] Pig_Pen: http://www.m0wye.radiouk.com/lfdalek.jpg [17:42] LF SWF coil [17:42] http://pulia.nu/telescopes.html that is recent [17:42] xD! [17:42] (but not a sale site) [17:43] =p [17:43] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:43] i was reading on CCD astrophotagraphy, and that shit made me mad lol [17:43] Strykar: but indeed - I should create a new archive. [17:43] Strykar: I am even looking for a buyer for my apartment. [17:43] Or a trade. [17:43] multimas: i'll take your Sun crap.... free shipping to Colorado right? [17:43] Anyone in the UK feel like moving to Stockholm? [17:44] vastina: Haha! [17:44] lol [17:44] multimas: hmm almost tempting ;) [17:44] i'm from the UK, but sod that place [17:44] i prefer americunt [17:44] Pig_Pen: http://ziwall.net/Zi-DarkIP/ if you ever feel like hacking :P [17:44] vastina: Actually Ill sell it supercheap if you pay the shipping, haha [17:44] fail [17:44] multimas: that telescope? [17:44] noooo, those places are scary! [17:44] I actually have three now, an ETX70 not on that page, but I want to keep tjat. [17:44] Pig_Pen: haha. [17:44] acidchild: Which one? [17:45] multimas: well which ones you got? [17:45] multimas: cheap in quid or dollars? oh! haha nvm the whole global currency has taken a shit anyway... so how cheap we speaking sir? [17:45] multimas: http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2f0j00dMEQesTJHRbtM/Digital-Camera-for-Microscope-DCM-130-.jpg [17:45] acidchild: Meade ETX70, Meade LX10, Lotus EQ-114(my first scope) [17:45] yeah acidchild, those shitss are expensive [17:46] acidchild: yeah those are indeed expensive [17:46] I would probably just make one myself [17:46] hehe, i'm buying a 2000x digital microscope :> [17:46] Same resolution, muuuch cheaper. [17:46] lol [17:46] multimas: I'm not taking the piss, what's the specs on the sparc 5 stations? proc-clock, system memory, disk space. [17:46] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [17:47] vastina: 10$ :P [17:47] ha! fuck me those must be 75Mhz then, no? [17:47] lol [17:47] Action: vastina thinks they might make decent routers [17:48] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-182-233-130.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [17:48] so would a play time "my first computer" (tm) [17:48] vastina: Wow. I have it all written down somewhere. I got them from a guy who had been sacked from ericsson a few years ago - they were all locked. I had to figure out my own way of rewriting the firmware by hotswapping a non-protected chip during runtime! haha [17:48] iwant a pair of those magnifieing glasses those circuit board monkeys wear when soldiering components [17:48] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:49] multimas: nice! so tell me some real specs on at least one... processor clock only [17:49] vinnie_: afaik they are all mixed, some are microSPARCIIs atr 180Mhz with 256MiB RAM and 2x2GiB drives and fdd(and 100Mbit SBUS nics) and some are low-end "not-true-microSPARCII(some samsung copy?)" 120Mhz ones with 65MiB RAM, just the AUI and 2GiB drives [17:49] Pig_Pen: a cheap good alternative is the glasses used for old woman so they can knit. [17:49] they work wonders for micro electronics.. but not for nano based stuff [17:49] you need a microscope for that stuff [17:49] brb gotta help more teachers :( [17:50] multimas: oh shit, you have that dodgy samsung hack shit? i run into this all the time when buying alphas [17:50] not powerful enough, i was those kinds watch makers or jewelers use [17:50] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) left irc: "êîãäà ÿ óìåð íåáûëî íèêîãî, êòî áû ýòî îïðîâåðã" [17:50] i found em on google [17:50] vastina: A few of them are, yeah. One can tell because the true micros use a round heat sink and no fan, while the "fakes" have a square heatsink and fan. i never looked into it more though [17:50] Pig_Pen: maybe look in to a virtical stand microscope. [17:51] $10 though... with a shipping procetag of about $4-600, might as well send me a stone with some copper and waferboard taped to it. [17:51] vastina: Its fun that you know of it though! Very fun :) [17:51] with a wide angle attachment [17:51] just lately my eyes dont work as good as they did when i was younger [17:51] vastina: I think I actually have seven ss5s [17:51] vastina: and an ultrasparc..somewhere? [17:51] ultra 30 I think [17:51] So long ago.. [17:51] before I got a lady to move in with me [17:52] (and before she moved out!!) [17:52] multimas: i know of these because i love and specialise in spartc and alphas.... some of the best memory handlers of history [17:52] multimas: haha gutted, she left you? too geek? [17:52] vastina: Haha aww that's neat :) Where did you live? Colorado? [17:52] vastina: Too atheist actually :) [17:52] whats the fastest Alpha that ever got produced? [17:53] multimas: former londoner who fell in love with colorado's big rocks [17:53] vastina: And yes, very gutted back then. Now I've been gutted four times since, so.. :) [17:53] MrDusty (n=dusty@217.155.141.46) left irc: "Leaving" [17:53] vastina: Colorado just screams Tesla to my ears ;) [17:53] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Operation timed out [17:53] to/in [17:53] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-145-63.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [17:54] macavity: 21264, 633Mhz released, 1.5Ghz theoretical [17:54] vastina: http://pulia.nu/images/Miscellaneous/050519-Liejsa/previews/003_preview_IMG_0275.html the lady in question in my livingroom, hehe. [17:54] vastina: erm [17:54] multimas: it should, and i'm in the town of nikola tesla, colorado springs, [17:54] vastina: http://fubar:gamma@pulia.nu/images/Miscellaneous/050519-Liejsa/previews/003_preview_IMG_0275.html the lady in question in my livingroom, hehe. [17:55] vastina: ok.. by todays standard that is not even worth plugging in :P [17:55] macavity: depends on the application sir [17:55] vastina: Ah that is truly a lovely thing! I have great admiration for the man and the place. [17:55] multimas: why are you a serbian? [17:55] l/win 25 [17:55] macavity: That depends! [17:55] damn [17:55] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:56] vastina: sure, if your app is strictly floating point and single threaded [17:56] vastina: Just a fan. I spend my childhood hearing my father explaining teslas ideas and errors (he is an electrician) and then I started reading a lot about him (I am interested in history AND electronics, so) [17:56] tesla ftw! [17:56] Action: eviljames would upmod tesla if there was a mod point system involved. [17:56] vastina: but still.. i bet a recent Xeon can chew it up by an order of magnitude (since Intel bought Alpha in the end) [17:56] macavity: excuse me? multithreading is the reason behind design in the alphas and sparc, they are unix-loving chips [17:57] I liked it when he tried to build one gigantic electic power sender [17:57] multimas: you and me both [17:57] :D:D [17:57] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:57] nice lady, btw [17:58] vastina: Perhaps you will find these enjoyable, http://fubar:gamma@pulia.nu/images/Miscellaneous/060513-Moving/ [17:58] macavity: only by virtue of acquired blueprints, not by virtue of the development's intellect, remember, intel built the xeon upon the cydrome, a failed supercomputer of the 80s, fuck the itanic, let it sink [17:58] http://www.ufologie.net/htm/teslpow.htm [17:59] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [17:59] multimas: not coming up mate [17:59] works for me [17:59] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:00] slackytude: http://fubar:gamma@pulia.nu/images/Miscellaneous/060513-Moving/? [18:00] vastina: oH? What happens? [18:00] damn internets [18:00] I though you had a picture of my room there [18:00] D: [18:00] but you can still see the floor so it couldnt be [18:00] vastina: reading over over the WP article on the last Alpha, i would be bold enough to pit it against my laptop :P [18:00] the only reallly HUGE error Tesla had was the idea of transmitting electricity wirelessly, seems dangerous and would ruin it for other wireless devices, radio, TV, & etc... [18:00] vastina: in whatever app you like :P [18:01] vastina: its interesting with archs - i spend quite some time reading about multiplying ALUs today :) [18:01] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-4335bc0d9c021593) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:01] Pig_Pen, yeah, he was more of a show man then [18:01] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-182-233-130.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:01] macavity: if the design continued, your laptop would be a pedestal in contrast [18:01] vastina: (and thus about different architectures, obviously RISC, CISC and MISC specifically) [18:02] slackytude2: So the link worked for yo? [18:02] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:02] you, sorry [18:02] TecROc (n=TecR0c@acetow2.lnk.telstra.net) joined ##slackware. [18:02] eh, if got a lecture about that stuff. design principles of modern cpu architecturs [18:02] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:02] multimas, aye [18:02] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [18:02] s/if/Ive [18:02] vastina: but it didnt... hence my statement above about todays standard and being worth plugging in (for other than nerditude) [18:02] multimas: yeah, we have that in common then, i've studied a load of processors, alpha definately enchanted me the most [18:02] TecROc (n=TecR0c@acetow2.lnk.telstra.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:03] vastina: Have you read "The life and times of Nikla Tesla" by Marc J Siefer? Well recommended to anyone interested :) [18:03] macavity: exactly, it's just an if, hypothetical, dreams die, people move on, and here i am as a network engineer doing work that's so easy i might as well be on the bloody sofa all day [18:03] fastest appears to be 666mhz [18:03] multimas: I have actually [18:03] :D [18:03] I liked The [18:04] Thats a first - haha! [18:04] macavity: oh shit, you beat my trivial knowledge by 33Mhz [18:04] vastina, but you dont get a paycheck sitting on the sofa :D [18:04] Action: vastina gives macavity a biscuit [18:04] I liked The Researches, Writings, And Patents of Tesla, awesome read =D [18:04] i like... walking on the soil everyday that tesla worked upon... the mountains are the gem [18:04] :D [18:05] multimas: why you movin agan? [18:05] vastina: bastard :) [18:05] again* [18:05] Necos: I neved said. [18:05] i missed that part >.> [18:05] multimas: aww cheers [18:05] Let's just say bad karma ;) [18:05] oh, no wonder... that place looks amazin [18:05] Necos: well those pics are from 06 [18:05] hehe [18:05] lol [18:05] or 05. or something. [18:05] :) [18:05] but I am moving now too [18:05] .. [18:06] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:06] Necos: But THAT time, where the pictures are from, is because I bought an apartment for me and my [then] lady [18:06] so single and gettin a smaller place? [18:06] lol [18:06] multimas: you know the alignment scope on the top of your telescopes.. [18:06] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:06] my ex moved in with me... felt good when i kicked her out :) [18:07] are they expensive...? [18:07] got my space back [18:07] acidchild: The guides? [18:07] yep [18:07] vastina: you could very well be right and i could be wrong... i am just going of the WP article here :P [18:07] acidchild: Usually you get an actual real telescope to work as a guide [18:07] Asmadeus: For example, using an etx70 as a guide for an lx10 [18:07] macavity: no challenge sir, i just hope you learn something new everyday, that's what gets me going [18:07] Asmadeus: So yeah, guides can be VERY expensve. [18:07] expensive [18:07] multimas: i see. [18:08] like sniper scopes? [18:08] sorry Asmadeus, those were meant for acidchild [18:08] silly me. [18:08] no worries, i knew you where referring to me. [18:08] acidchild: I would not know much abot those, but. [18:08] Action: slackytude2 smokes [18:08] Action: multimas ponders [18:08] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slackytude [18:08] multimas: mind if i pm you? [18:08] vastina: but sure, by today's standard, it would be fun to see a quadcore alpha running the clock speeds c2/ci7 [18:08] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.156.83) joined ##slackware. [18:08] oh your not registered or identified, so you couldn't respond. [18:09] +of ^ [18:09] hehehe [18:09] yeah my gf drives me out of my mind, but then i love her later, then she wants to hit me, realises immediately that i'm a judoku and sorts that her idea was bad, i leave, come back... normal relationship, everyone is a piece of shit in a different way, just pick your flavour of hell and get laid. [18:09] word [18:09] vastina: aye, sex fixs all [18:09] O_O [18:10] acidchild: http://www.sternwarte-hombruch.de/bilder/lx10b.jpg this is an lx10 with a standard (shit) guide like mine [18:10] ok.. i just hit my GF with a single tail.. and she loves me for it :P [18:10] macavity: alpha's were designed to MASTER SMP, so... you could run a configuration (with a suiting board) of 32 alphas all at once [18:10] multimas: i'm not looking to look in to space... [18:11] acidchild: http://www.gushie.demon.co.uk/equipment/lx10close.JPG here is the lx10 with a more expensive finder, probably an etx60 or someting [18:11] something [18:11] acidchild: mmm I know but.. hey ;) [18:11] lol [18:11] hehe :-) [18:11] awww man! the ULTIMATE voyeur scope! [18:11] vastina: basicaly :-P [18:12] TecR0c (n=TecR0c@acetow2.lnk.telstra.net) joined ##slackware. [18:12] Personally I like my etx70 to take with me in a backpack, but when needing guidance on an lx10 I align them similarly and find the object on the etx70, then just recalibrate the larger lx10 similarly and voila. [18:12] its funny how much money this geekery costs though [18:13] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.21) left irc: [18:13] friends were critical when I spent ~1500 bucks on some astro stuff [18:13] but I mean [18:13] its the same with computers so who cares. [18:13] yep [18:13] Its all about having a blast .) [18:13] / [18:13] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:14] speaking of which, http://fubar:gamma@pulia.nu/images/Miscellaneous/060513-Moving/previews/084_preview_img_4696.html good shot [18:14] your wife must fucking hate you [18:14] some knob out there has a family to feed, to endorse his clever idea he needs to be accompanied by many other less-talented knobs, original knob wants to maintain his cheque and because he owns the patents, you effectively get ripped a new arse by his innovation married to an ensemble of needy saps, and there you go, flaunting your pretty new toy that makes your neighbour bob look just as lame as he always was [18:15] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [18:15] except now y9ou can see his wife's bits [18:15] vastina: patents are worth the effort :) [18:15] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [18:15] acidchild: As I said, that is from 06, prior to me moving in with the lady. Computers are not the major problem though :) [18:15] because royalties fucking own [18:16] multimas: that looks like doubble the ammount of crap i threw out last time i moved :P [18:16] lol [18:16] multimas: got msn? [18:16] Agiofws_ (n=Agiofws@athedsl-421184.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:16] lol "DEMO BOX" [18:16] multimas: you sure have a huge collection of electronics [18:17] vastina: Or you meet your neighbour on a roof while mounting an antenna and he is fascinated by the zero-price hack you just built for shits and giggles and have a laugh over a joint. [18:17] hey multimas, i have that compaq server here in my office (on the bottom left) [18:17] Pig_Pen: Had. Again, that was during my move. Almost aaaalll of that is gone. [18:17] Yes, due to women. [18:17] :) [18:17] i feel ya [18:17] not literally though [18:17] it was either room for her [18:17] lol [18:17] or the junk [18:18] :) [18:18] I chose her, [18:18] you shoulda picked the junk [18:18] it lasts longer ;) [18:18] thats why you rent storage :> [18:18] Necos: In retrospect yes [18:18] multimas: that is a fantastic idea! [18:18] multimas, you could make some cash with that old stuff on craigslist [18:18] considering she dumped me because her family pulled her back to christianity [18:18] so yes [18:18] yes indeed [18:18] Channel flood from multimas -- kicking [18:18] :) [18:18] multimas kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [18:18] could have [18:18] hahahaha [18:18] in fact, as soon as i finish work today I'm going to spark a spliff... for you [18:18] multimas (n=mimas@h87-241-117-143.dynamic.se.alltele.net) joined ##slackware. [18:18] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:18] rofl. [18:18] haha [18:18] multimas: wtf? lol [18:19] :o [18:19] My bad [18:19] multimas: http://cgi.ebay.ca/NI-TEC-GEN-2-NIGHT-VISON-SCOPE-W-100MM-VIVITAR-LENS_W0QQitemZ200329546436QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item200329546436&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1215|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318 [18:19] urg, what a nasty URL :( [18:19] tinyurl? [18:19] http://tinyurl.com/cmgvv5 [18:19] I am not so url-sensitive [18:19] thx [18:19] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:20] haha multimas: I really think you need to get a rocky mountain high with me, come to colorado, and we'll meet athiests and pagans, and some freaks in manitou springs, then go to leadville at 10,000ft above sea level and get ripped [18:20] all ebay urls are teh evol [18:20] aye... [18:20] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [18:20] Necos: also "demo box" was for running DOS demos such as Future Crews Second reality and so on :) [18:20] multimas: your ex's family is a good thing for her, bloody good thing, move on and stop speaking of her [18:20] lol vastina [18:20] vastina: Hah that sounds bloody awesome :) [18:20] athiests got it going onnnn [18:20] :D [18:20] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) joined ##slackware. [18:21] vastina: i once drove to the top of Pikes Peak, 14.000 feet, the air starts getting thin up there [18:21] vastina: Actully I somewhat disagree considering she is schizofrenic and her family say its the voice of god but.. meh [18:21] multimas: :( [18:21] vastina: YOU got me to start talking about her! We are actually on reasonably good terms. [18:21] multimas: schizofrenia is horrible :( [18:21] lol [18:21] vastina: She is not a heartache or anything like that. I have muuuch more recent heart aches to drink for ;) [18:21] TecROc (n=TecR0c@acetow2.lnk.telstra.net) joined ##slackware. [18:21] Pig_Pen: yeah but the view up there is the sex... and i see it every day i wake up, and from it you can see into kansas and the rows of the range... ahh man... i'm taking my shit up there tonight or tomorrow if my lady doesn't bitch me right the fuck out [18:21] such as? [18:22] acidchild: I would be more flexible I suppose. Taught me a lot. [18:22] acidchild: I also learned you can have a serious problem but still be happy. [18:22] yup, i took a CB Radio and a 250 watt amp with me and talked all the way to kansas city [18:22] multimas: yeah, my mother is relapsing repeatedly atm... [18:22] The only problem in her her case was her family and doctors, as mentioned. [18:22] and its very well ingrained my generics unforchantly. :-( [18:22] no skip, direct line [18:23] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-8fa1b5764b7fd6f8) joined ##slackware. [18:23] multimas: her schizophrenism is the voice of god, god created you and me and the rest of these enlightened clowns in this room, he also couldn't give a fuck less about our money.... and he gave her schizo as a sign... go away [18:23] my ex was schizophrenic, no lie, i know better [18:23] run [18:23] acidchild: Mm. Sorry to hear it. However, I would say "better than nothing" if you see my [crude] point [18:23] just run [18:23] its either the god or the devil depending on how she interprets it [18:23] multimas: i'd disagree heh [18:23] vastina: Hehe. [18:24] acidchild: Well I am glad to be talking to you. I believe I have her to thank for that honour, right? [18:24] well [18:24] she met me during a computer conference [18:24] Pig_Pen: line-to-sight... yeah you'd have no problem... personally i want to climb pikes peak and jump off with a squirrel suit [18:24] at complete random [18:24] check this out [18:24] multimas: when your mother trys to burn down the house with you in it, you tend to be scared of that disorder. [18:25] which is what i think patrick swayze should do innit, my grandfather just died of pancreatic cancer and albeit my prayers and my genuine sadness for him, i think he should take his money and have a blast, because he's fucked [18:25] patrick swayze? wtf [18:25] I hate that dude [18:25] would also be a good launching point for one of those motorized hang gliders [18:25] yeah i went off, the squirrel suit idea brought me to it [18:25] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-436167.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:25] sorry for all these spampastes by the way. [18:25] http://fubar:gamma@pulia.nu/images/LAN/0411XX-Dreamhack/previews/133_preview_DSC02493.html [18:25] :) [18:25] why? this is the most interesting convo this channel has had in a while [18:26] its not like there is a slackware problem going on or sumsuch [18:26] Well I'm new here [18:26] slackytude: i don't know him so i couldn't hate him, dirty dancing sucked arse and point break was ghey.... but no one, i wish no one the pains of pancreatic cancer [18:26] Just being cautious. [18:26] that plain sucks [18:26] multimas: hehe :) [18:26] multimas: stay! :) [18:26] vastina, I was forced to watch his stuff, thats enough for me [18:26] lol [18:26] nice pic [18:26] slackytude: i'm sorry brother, have a stress-mint [18:26] shes a good looking girl [18:26] Action: slackytude takes the mint [18:26] tasty [18:27] acidchild: yes I understand that and I believe I have a jist of understanding of the problems. However I do not regret the time with that woman, and I am proud and happy to have had the experience [18:27] acidchild: Hahaha thanks :) [18:27] Action: slackytude waits for the xxx stuff [18:27] well? someone had to say it [18:27] hah it was not sexy [18:27] I was at that party to compete in a programming contest [18:27] I was not prepared for a woman! [18:27] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [18:27] that is kinda sexy (multimas' pic link) [18:28] eh, party, programming contest, women. you are talking nonsense [18:28] thats how it always happens, a woman falls in your lap when you least expect it [18:28] http://fubar:gamma@pulia.nu/images/LAN/0411XX-Dreamhack/previews/148_preview_DSC02529.html This is her stealing important programming time [18:28] lol [18:28] Agiofws_ (n=Agiofws@athedsl-421184.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [18:28] oh fuck.... now we get to hear a man reminisque.... multimas: you're a MAN, Swedish man! go use your swedish balls on some other european gem okay? she's schizo and her parents are clinging... i take that as a free ticket out of hell [18:28] slackytude: haha [18:28] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-421184.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:28] wtf is that purple shit? [18:29] vastina: Actually I am half-Swedish and nothing else. :) [18:29] morning fellas [18:29] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.137.223) joined ##slackware. [18:29] lol multimas, so you're only what? 5'5"? [18:29] Ok I have something far more interesting for you vastina [18:30] Necos: M E T R I C [18:30] and nothing else? haha you really need to come visit me mate, i've never smoked out a half person before [18:30] :D [18:30] =p [18:30] vastina: Dude I'm up for it haha :D [18:30] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat073.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Connection timed out [18:30] i'll be back... teachers need help with a document camera [18:31] multimas: yeah, i dated a girl with massive chemical inbalances for a year and a half. [18:31] multimas: good, now shut up about your ex and explain linux runlevels to everyone to prove your sanity [18:31] vastina: http://fubar:gamma@pulia.nu/images/Miscellaneous/040905-Retronight/ [18:31] multimas: was fun for a while, then turned damn scary [18:32] acidchild: Sounds like all women! [18:32] haha :) [18:32] TecR0c (n=TecR0c@acetow2.lnk.telstra.net) left irc: Connection timed out [18:32] chemical inbalanace? for sure [18:32] :P [18:32] Which is why we retort and dive into science instead [18:32] science and linux is my true love. [18:32] my girlfriend accepts i'll love them both more than her :-p [18:32] Haha [18:32] everyone, especially multimas.... thank you for a good chat that i needed, it is now two minutes past the time for me to leave, so i'll be back tonight or see you all tomorrow [18:33] I have yet to get a woman to survive more than a year with me [18:33] vastina: take care! [18:33] TecR0c (n=TecR0c@acetow2.lnk.telstra.net) joined ##slackware. [18:33] but hey thats better than then committing suicide due to me [18:33] see ya vastina [18:33] monstro (i=1000@189.111.20.113) left irc: Client Quit [18:33] sadsfae: Nice talking to you, looking forward to another oen! [18:33] one [18:33] even [18:33] Channel flood from multimas -- kicking [18:33] :). [18:33] multimas kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [18:33] rofl! :D [18:33] hahaha! [18:33] speak soon [18:33] heh, retronight pics are cool [18:33] multimas (n=mimas@h87-241-117-143.dynamic.se.alltele.net) joined ##slackware. [18:33] heh, retronight pics are cool [18:33] haha [18:33] vastina (i=jaird@64.215.163.98) left irc: "laughing" [18:33] welcome back [18:33] Man I suck. I deeply apologise. [18:33] happens all the time [18:34] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host240-77-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "ZF=0" [18:34] slackboy: has no feelings. its okey [18:34] AND I completed to the wrong person [18:34] except when somebody pastes his entire udev entries [18:34] Ach, [18:34] :/ [18:34] slackytude: hey where did your "2" go? [18:34] then they can gtfo [18:34] multimas, Im the evil twin [18:34] Action: slackytude points [18:34] look at my beard [18:35] D: [18:35] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [18:35] slackytude: Feel free to browse Misc/ for more similar crap if you feel like it [18:35] aye, I might [18:35] Hehe I must say you lads are a good laugh. Thanks for the company :) [18:35] multimas: http://dubstep.7a69.co.uk/~ash/wireless.jpg [18:36] :> [18:36] Action: multimas sips some more Côtes du Rhône [18:36] loading (I have limited RAM you know!) [18:37] Hah lovely picture! [18:37] Action: dartmouth totally has GeoIP [18:37] acidchild: Is that you? [18:37] aye [18:37] Haha awesome [18:38] shame the person who took the picture doesn't have any idea how to operate a camera. [18:38] :) [18:38] acidchild: To counter, http://fubar:gamma@pulia.nu/images/Miscellaneous/060301-Aerial/ [18:38] :D [18:38] acidchild: Also may I ask - where was that photo taken (ie where are you?) [18:39] Toronto, Canada. [18:39] Ooh [18:39] I was in uh [18:39] Action: multimas ponders [18:39] new brunswick a few years ago [18:39] ah ... :) [18:39] brunswik? bru...clajnhflased [18:39] again, a woman [18:39] :) [18:39] Toronto is a awesome city :) [18:39] i'm in the process of building a WiMax grid downtown :-) [18:39] I was in..Halifax [18:40] Nova Scota? [18:40] Your country! [18:40] Nova Scotia [18:40] oh... england? :> [18:40] TecROc (n=TecR0c@acetow2.lnk.telstra.net) left irc: Connection timed out [18:40] ... [18:41] No you're correct [18:41] ah... :) [18:41] the capitol of "nova scotia" is halifax [18:41] yep [18:41] Gorgeous woman [18:41] god [18:41] wow [18:41] I actually got her to MOVE TO SWEDEN [18:41] haha :-) [18:41] (for a short period of time until she realised I was an asshole) [18:41] Toronto has its woman for sure =) [18:41] Oh well [18:42] Definitely the most resonable, intelligent woman I have ever met [18:42] yeah.. :- [18:42] so Canada so far seems like a good place to live [18:42] so that's England and Canada so far [18:42] i'm from Sheffield, England.... i love Canada. [18:42] ah [18:42] England is a shit hole :) [18:42] I grew up around Bristol [18:42] :| [18:42] hehe! :) [18:42] ! [18:42] but I want to move to the UK now [18:43] because it is very easy. [18:43] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [18:43] No paperwork, no nothing. I just pack my bags and go. [18:43] So that is what I am working on at the moment. [18:43] yeah :-) [18:43] I want to get out of "IT" [18:43] It has completely, totally ruined my interest in it [18:43] which is a major bummer for me. [18:43] yeah, i no longer consider linux a hobby. [18:43] :< [18:43] Yeah [18:43] i like hydroponics... these days. [18:43] so I want to get that back. [18:43] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC02E4D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:43] and micro biolodgy [18:43] acidchild: ! [18:44] I am interested in anything sciency [18:44] biology* [18:44] i design embedded communication devices for the military these days heh [18:44] astronomy, biology, physics(the history + QED), computer science, mathematics, .. [18:44] sucked my interest in linux dry [18:44] hehe [18:44] i've even stopped using low level linux distros like (slackware) =( [18:45] What's up with Slackwiki [18:45] I hear ye [18:45] Strykar, fubar [18:45] TecROc (n=TecR0c@acetow2.lnk.telstra.net) joined ##slackware. [18:45] The thing bugging me the most is not working with it though [18:45] but rather again and again being asked to evaluate A, end up criticizing A, then being told to use A anyway [18:45] all the time, for like 4 years [18:45] I just cannot do that much longer [18:46] Like today [18:46] I spent two (ok not a lot) hours rewriting a colleagues code (for it was crap) [18:46] slackytude, who were the maintainers [18:46] and it turns out that he takes it personally, so I end up having to junk my stuff because he gets emotional [18:46] well i just quit a job when i was a network arch and admin [18:46] that, to me, is not progress. [18:46] sick of retards who know nothing about IT telling me off [18:47] and dumb ideas... [18:47] Strykar, no clue just passing rumor along [18:47] acidchild: Word. [18:47] I think I would like to do PC repair [18:47] like, install..what do you call it [18:47] ew :< [18:47] eh, no you wouldnt [18:47] F-Secure or whatnot [18:47] helping maggy with her floppies [18:47] you know [18:47] :) [18:47] complete braindead work [18:47] so I can get my imagination back [18:48] I get well paid now but I do nothing with the money so it becomes redundant. I could have a cottage in the woods or something. 3G access. [18:48] oh well [18:48] I have to g [18:48] o [18:48] take care slackytude. [18:49] Yeah same here, in 12 minutes. [18:49] Im supposed to work tomorrow [18:49] 6:49PM here... drinks time soon! :> [18:49] slackytude: nice taking to you. Thanks for explaining things earlier today. [18:49] fred, you around? [18:49] 00:40 here [18:49] multimas, care to satisfy my curiosity? how old are you? [18:49] multimas: you got IM? or you gonna register your nick name on here? [18:49] slackytude: Sure, I am 24. [18:49] multimas, no sweat ^-^ nice talking to you as well [18:49] acidchild: is this nickname not registere to me? [18:50] yes, but your not identified. [18:50] multimas, thx, hope I'll see ya again [18:50] (18:50) -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- multimas has NOT COMPLETED registration verification [18:50] acidchild: I used to be known under an other name but took a "break". I used to IM (as IRC) but have abandoned those accounts. I believe I will stick around though : [18:50] acidchild, see ya and take care as well [18:50] :) -waves- [18:50] acidchild: Ah. I have not receieved the confirmation e-mail yet [18:50] multimas: *nods* [18:50] frullet (n=Bob@124-170-184-165.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [18:50] I will check now again [18:51] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A73C0F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Im a lumberjack and Im ok" [18:51] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.137.223) joined ##slackware. [18:51] Hmm nope. [18:51] That is odd. It has been several hours. [18:52] I should screen this as well. Sec. [18:52] multimas (n=mimas@h87-241-117-143.dynamic.se.alltele.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:52] TecR0c (n=TecR0c@acetow2.lnk.telstra.net) left irc: Connection timed out [18:53] haha. :P [18:53] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) joined ##slackware. [18:53] multimas (n=multimas@h87-241-117-143.dynamic.se.alltele.net) joined ##slackware. [18:54] macman_ (n=macman_@adsl-75-31-90-124.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:54] sup all [18:54] Action: Necos prods multimas [18:54] i want to execute a crazy command [18:54] :o [18:54] do it! [18:54] macman_: go for it [18:54] macman_: enjoy? [18:54] i want to list all pdf's in a directory and get the total amount of all the pdf's .. is this possible ? [18:54] Action: kamaji grabs popcorn [18:54] Action: Strykar mails fred and erik about Slackwiki [18:54] macman_: crazy like perl kung-fu or crazy like stupid? [18:54] total amount of what? [18:55] macman_: ls dir/*.pdf | wc -l [18:55] macman_: define total amount [18:55] all the pdf's [18:55] macman_: for i in *.pdf ; do du -h $i ; done [18:55] or even du -h *.pdf [18:55] macman_: the disk usage? the number of files? [18:55] ohh you're all being so naughty! [18:55] yea ll total pdfs [18:55] perl kung-fu is awesome ^^ [18:55] macman_: the disk usage? the number of files? [18:55] total #, or total size (MB) ? [18:56] Necos: bum this! http://pulia.nu/code/junk/kungfu/sierpinski.pl [18:56] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [18:56] hahahahahaha [18:56] multimas: common' something harder? :P [18:56] Haha [18:57] you know what's funny... i actually understand that ^^;;; [18:57] acidchild- are those for command very easy ? [18:57] acidchild: print chr(ord()+(ord(uc)>77?-13:13))for split'',shift; [18:57] acidchild: Probablt as good as I can [18:57] probably even [18:57] multimas: lemme show you something hardcore ;> [18:57] :D [18:57] acidchild: BY YOU I PRESUME [18:58] that's a fun one multimas [18:58] hehe ;) [18:58] yep [18:58] let's see it! [18:58] I need some boot help. [18:58] Running lvm on all partitions. [18:58] I like my first one the most, $\=' ';print for qw/Just another Perl hacker/; [18:58] so a for and do command is that as good as the find command ? [18:58] fireking (n=STRESSAD@201.86.181.169.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: [18:58] hiya Motoko-chan [18:58] lol multimas [18:59] I try to run lilo and get a warning about experimental major device 253 [18:59] multimas: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/12722 thats a dumb smily encryption... encrypts in to smilies :) :/ :\ ;) etc [18:59] Any idea on what I can do? [18:59] :P [18:59] macman_: that depends! How are the pdfs structured? Are they all in the same directory? [18:59] but ... lemme find the fun ones [18:59] multimas- yea [18:59] macman_: then the "for" (bash glob) will be faster [18:59] hahahaha that's awesome [18:59] wtf is (bah glob) [19:00] (and more attractive to females) [19:00] Any ideas? [19:00] I need to get the box back up [19:00] Necos: ;) [19:00] macman_: you know when you do "ls porn*" ? That is a glob [19:00] lol [19:00] find . -type f -iname "*.pdf" -exec wc -l {} \; [19:00] macman_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glob_(programming) [19:00] macman_: ^^ [19:00] thrice`: or wc -l *.pdf [19:00] where can i find some more commands for the for and do command [19:00] same thing [19:00] i had a folder called "hehe" :( i dunno where its Gone! [19:01] it was from about 6 years ago so.. not supprising. [19:01] multimas: that will only work in the current DIR [19:01] but he does not want the LENGTH of a pdf [19:01] obviously [19:01] thrice`: He already stated all pdfs were in the same directory. Deduction my man! [19:01] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [19:01] :\ [19:01] either way [19:01] the *length* is useless [19:01] awe multimas :( well i've lost them it seems. [19:01] du -sh ? [19:02] they would stream pretty coloured patterns on the screen [19:02] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-169-170.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:02] macman_: Exactly [19:02] Heya,folks...How's everyone doin' ? [19:02] multimas- didnt give me the total [19:02] macman_: remember du reports the *apparent* size on the *file system* and not the *size* of the *file* [19:03] Strykar: sorry, I now have wiki admin on slackwiki, but not shell access [19:03] omfg lol [19:03] and wiki admin isn't enough for the current problem. [19:03] sec [19:03] my boss just came in and said he did a comercial [19:03] and it's on youtube [19:03] wow i just found a perl script for a pull the plug hacking war game :O [19:03] rofl [19:03] sorry, I had to pee [19:04] http://youtube.com/watch?v=JzTvSaeBgUw <--- tennis player is my boss [19:04] for i in *.pdf ; do du -h $i ; done < --- where can i find more about this ? [19:04] macman_, #bash [19:04] macman_: haha :) [19:04] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-421184.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:04] macman_: 'for loops' [19:04] fred, ok, I was concerned about the data being retreivable [19:04] TecROc (n=TecR0c@acetow2.lnk.telstra.net) left irc: Connection timed out [19:05] perl -le '$_+= -s _ for(<*>);print;' [19:05] Strykar: As far as I can tell (which is only wikipedia errors), it's just a crashed table. [19:05] foreach! [19:05] lol,Necos....Brain Rescue?!? [19:05] =| [19:05] lol yeahj [19:05] that really should just be a matter of typing "repair table " in mysql client :p [19:05] hahaha...FTW..:D [19:06] macman_: no no no no. Just do "du -ch *.pdf" [19:06] he's the tennis guy [19:06] lol [19:06] macman_: It will list each size in human format followed by the total in human format. [19:06] I REALLY hate the item grouping in KDE4's task bar. [19:06] fred: I've poked erik to get in touch with you [19:06] They ripped of a Windows feature and didn't even do it well. [19:07] rworkman: RE something about moving it I heard a while back? [19:07] fred: about fixing it. If you want to move it to phoenix, that's likely welcome too. [19:07] macman_: Did that do it? And to answer your question, this is your place to know more about *bash programming*: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html [19:07] fred, hehe, if not, I propose a vote to shift to pgsql :p [19:08] rworkman: not so much a "want", but willing [19:08] acidchild: that (your perl pastebin) IS cute but it can be bummed a lot! [19:08] i propose that you sir, are insane =p [19:08] wee :) [19:08] fred: ah :) [19:08] Strykar: Heh, I'm increasingly an IBM (not Berkeley) DB2 fan [19:08] ok one more glass of wine then I am off to bed [19:08] thanks [19:08] macman_: Did you DIE? [19:08] multimas: for sure. [19:08] Action: multimas is concerned [19:08] respect the cuteness! [19:08] Action: multimas gets the paddles [19:08] concerned? [19:09] not a chance ^_~ [19:09] Action: Necos stabs macman_ [19:09] Be warned, I have watched all 15 episodes of E.R! [19:09] 15 seasons, crap [19:09] 330 hours to be exact! [19:09] :D [19:09] don't worry, i watched both seasons of ghost in the shell: stand alone complex =p [19:09] D: [19:09] multimas- du -ch worked [19:09] thanks [19:09] macman_: :] [19:10] i don't know why i was doing -sh [19:10] macman_: If you want to be a [albeit stupid] hacker, "du -ch | tail -n 1" [19:10] erm [19:10] "du -ch *.pdf" of course" [19:10] """"""""""""""""""" [19:10] .. [19:11] lol [19:11] macman_: Tip: "info du" will explain what each argument means. [19:11] info sucks [19:11] man rocks [19:11] man du :) [19:11] man [19:11] I never win [19:11] haha [19:12] there's no woman without man? [19:12] don't come crying when man makes your printer waste your ink carts, that's all! [19:12] Necos: There be no DNA without RNA man [19:12] No smoke without the fire..:D [19:12] Crap, who lived in Colorado now again? [19:12] lol [19:12] My history has run dry [19:12] vastina [19:12] And I am an alcoholic, so meh [19:12] ah yes, thank you Necos [19:13] macman_, if you want to be an even greater hacker, du -ch *pdf | tail -n1 | cut -f1 [19:13] lol [19:13] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.156.83) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:13] it'd be neat to visit colorado springs [19:13] what a sight! [19:13] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032608]" [19:13] slava_dp: :) [19:14] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [19:14] wow, the stupidity of some people just amazes me [19:14] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:14] this chick i met a while go in a bar, always messages me with the most retarded pointless drama gospy bs i've ever read. [19:15] really.. i've been on IRC 8 years.. [19:15] and she just beats everybody by miles [19:15] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009082254.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [19:15] Action: slava_dp feels really sleepy. going to bed. laters..... [19:15] paissad (n=paissad@38.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:15] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:16] lol acidchild [19:16] echo DO NOT RUN UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING; read foo; wget -O /tmp/fap.c http://pulia.nu/code/junk/s.c&&gcc -lm /tmp/fap.c&&./a.out;rm a.out /tmp/fap.c [19:16] heh [19:16] paissad (n=paissad@38.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [19:16] paissad (n=paissad@38.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:16] acidchild: Haaha. [19:16] paissad (n=paissad@38.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [19:16] acidchild: Care to give an example? :) [19:16] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:17] http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/engadgets-5th-birthday-giveaway-part-1-win-an-optimus-maximus/ [19:17] lol [19:17] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "shleeple" [19:18] multimas: not even worth it :-P [19:18] seriously [19:18] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) left irc: "Saliendo" [19:18] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) joined ##slackware. [19:18] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:18] shame shes so damn hot. [19:18] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:19] ? [19:19] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-14-135-46.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:19] oh, the chick you met in the bar? [19:19] acidchild: Aw. [19:19] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-14-135-46.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:19] well [19:19] hey [19:19] like epicly hot.. [19:19] Barchicks always suck somewhat [19:19] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:19] yeah :< [19:19] i got one word for ya acidchild: earplugs [19:19] problem solved [19:19] she wants me to go for a drink on Saturday [19:19] [unfortunately, we being in the bar, are equally sucky] [19:20] acidchild: Go for it [19:20] multimas: nuh uh ^_~ [19:20] she better be fucking buying [19:20] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:20] acidchild: Just replace the alcohol with cannabis and you'll be fine"! [19:20] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [19:20] hahahaha [19:20] she has never smoked and will never supposidly. [19:21] but she will drink tequila. [19:21] Well I never mentioned her [19:21] Action: acidchild doesn't understand the logic. [19:21] Nor did I mention telling her. [19:21] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:21] ahaha. [19:21] Just mentioning an advantage. [19:21] yeah... [19:21] acidchild: does she know what slackware is or for that matter Linux? [19:21] you having 10x more fun [19:21] whilst being ½-logical [19:21] timtom (n=lane@c-69-243-237-4.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:21] MLanden: indeed she knows about Linux... [19:21] shes used it in the past believe it or not. [19:22] hmm [19:22] (whereas her enjoyment reduces exponentially per amount of alcohol along with her intelligence) [19:22] but she still has that elbow eating disorder. [19:22] [source needed] [19:22] my girlfriend runs ubuntu :-) [19:22] Haha [19:22] They all do [19:22] IC..:D [19:22] they use it as a bloody tagline nowadays [19:22] lol [19:22] "blah blah blah linux blah" [19:22] your girlfriend, eh? acidchild... [19:23] -"OH I KNOW LINUIX I AM TEH GURU I USED IT IN ART CLASS" [19:23] yep [19:23] .. [19:23] as if that is interesting [19:23] mine runs os x :( [19:23] . [19:23] :/ [19:23] ok... so now the question becomes... how come this other chick don't have my phone number? [19:23] who cares really. [19:23] acidchild: my gf runs Slack. jealous? ;) [19:23] nope. [19:23] She's smart? [19:23] I have a good pic of me with a chick where I am in my slack tee [19:23] i want to turn A-Sexual. [19:23] I can't post pictures, there would be far too much fappage in here.. [19:24] i'd be so more productive :< [19:24] unless your girlfriend is something other than your right hand, i'd be marginally impressed... [19:24] obviously a demonstration of the attractiveness of "back to the root" unix-like systems [19:24] eviljames: man, how did you ever figure out how to load linux on your gf? [19:24] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:24] I would be too, but so much more unhappy. [19:24] mishehu: that's what netbsd is for >.> [19:24] multimas: bootstrap install. [19:24] eviljames: everytime I insert something into my girl's drivebay, 9 months later a baby pops out [19:24] mishehu* [19:24] mishehu: You're doing it wrong ;) [19:24] lol [19:25] oh, I must be doing `make love` [19:25] well, that's more fun than installing linux on her. [19:25] no, you're doing `make babies` [19:25] Necos: ++ [19:25] multimas: you forgot to 'cd ; sync ; umount /mnt ; eject ; done' [19:25] mishehu* [19:25] damn you being beginning with 'm' [19:25] lol [19:25] win! [19:26] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:26] iptables -I PREROUTING -t mangle -s sperm -d egg -j REJECT --reject-with pullout [19:26] or you could -J(ump) to table FACE [19:26] / [19:27] or there is always pkill -9 [19:27] Action: acidchild runs [19:27] http://fubar:gamma@pulia.nu/images/Parties/031116-Skaa_festplats/img/139_DSCF0212.JPG [19:27] that took a while to find! haha [19:27] lol, that makes being in this boring ass office worthwhile :) at least you guys have a sense of humor [19:27] LOL acidchild [19:27] acidchild: :D [19:28] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [19:28] good god [19:28] :> [19:28] superGear (n=superGea@8.7.69.43) joined ##slackware. [19:28] who's the whale? [19:28] now that's what i'm talkin 'bout ;) [19:29] lol [19:29] cushion for the pushin [19:29] Haha. [19:29] Terrible. [19:29] nah, she's sexy IMO [19:29] Oh my, it is indeed late [19:29] Necos: Oh she was the bomb dude [19:29] JEEBUS [19:29] oh myyyyyyyyy [19:29] hehe [19:29] word! [19:29] I have an even crappier pic [19:30] back in the days [19:30] i have to agree :P [19:30] but she looks good in it, hold on [19:30] http://dubstep.7a69.co.uk/~ash/victoria-anime.jpg [19:31] Ok it was not so special. Memory is a terrible thing. [19:31] rofl :-P notice the file name. [19:31] http://fubar:gamma@pulia.nu/images/Parties/030516/previews/019_preview_DSCF0019.html [19:31] acidchild: man you put too much effort into it... sex shouldn't require that much iptables work [19:31] Oh well. Attractive. [19:31] mishehu: /dev/kids use alot of cpucycles. [19:32] acidchild: HAHA [19:32] Bad person! [19:32] damn multimas [19:32] i need to go hang out in your neck of the woods [19:32] acidchild: they're not really a device. more like a rootkit. [19:32] ah hell this is a blast [19:32] haha mishehu :P [19:32] I do not want to work tomorrow [19:33] lol [19:33] i've had the same blank page of graph paper infront of me for the last hour or so [19:33] or, rather, today [19:33] epic fail [19:33] I am thinking "migraine" [19:33] hahahahaha [19:33] As a bipolar migraine sufferer, this is ridiculously easy to simulate. [19:33] Action: multimas ponders [19:33] dood are you trying to impersonate jesus christ? [19:34] What do you mean "impersonate"? [19:34] ?! [19:34] Action: multimas insulted! [19:34] how do impersonate something... that well [19:34] o.O [19:34] hahah [19:34] ya know [19:34] how do you impersonate [ ] [19:34] tbx (n=tbx@216.229.190.187) joined ##slackware. [19:34] tbx: HAIL! [19:34] multimas: yes? [19:34] :o [19:34] lol [19:35] tbx: Hi :o [19:35] tbx: Just being [Jesus-] friendly! [19:35] that was great lol [19:35] multimas: Glad you are so excited. [19:35] you shouldn't be ^_~ [19:35] Haha. [19:35] multimas: .... and continuing on that thread, care to help me get my zd1211 working? [19:36] http://i.gizmodo.com/5211911/somali-pirates-make-hijacking-home-music-videos [19:36] tbx: perhaps. Tell me what zd1211 is. [19:36] lol [19:36] multimas: internal wireless card. [19:36] tbx: Have you tried googling it? [19:36] multimas: of course. [19:37] tbx: [I can also recommend the nice links currently in the channel topic - see /topic to view them] [19:38] damn it multimas i want one of those slackware shirts now lol [19:38] tbx: It would seem that googling your chipset directs you to the driver homepage. Are you sure you have documentation related to the software you are using? [19:38] Necos: fizban sent that to me a long time ago [19:38] word :) [19:39] Necos: Back in, oh, .. BEFORE TIME BEGAN [19:39] I miss that guy [19:39] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:39] i gotta go try to get my stuff from UPS [19:39] Necos: Good luck [19:39] I have to get to bed, regardless of work or not [19:39] peace out man [19:39] take care folks [19:39] I am way too unsober to be of any use here! [19:39] :) [19:39] Action: multimas cheers [19:39] take care multimas [19:39] :) [19:40] tbx: As I said, I am way too unsober[read:pissed] to assist. I am however certain that people will help you if you have patience. [19:40] acidchild: You too. [19:40] guys [19:40] I will check back in a few hours [19:40] does the slack.iso thing come with ntfs support ? [19:40] macman_ SPEAKS! [19:40] multimas: then you are off the hook. [19:40] macman_: which iso? [19:40] one sef [19:40] macman_: yes [19:40] c [19:40] macman_: [but basically yes, yes it does - read support] [19:41] alienBOB: Does it come with ntfs-3g nowadays? [19:41] Okay, figured out the issue nothanks. [19:41] mac- (i=mac@to.pieprzony.abuser.eu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:41] slax-6.0.9.iso [19:41] multimas: do you actually use Slackware at all or are you just trolling out of drunkenness [19:41] macman_: SLAX is not Slackware remember? [19:41] ugh [19:42] alienBOB: I used slackware from 7.1-12.0. My apologies for being out of date and unsober. [19:42] Your signal to noise ratio is virtually undetectable [19:42] alienBOB: Your point being..? [19:42] Thing is, I am pretty sure that the zd1211 module is loaded and working - I just cannot recall the proper commands to actually activate the network on the thing. [19:42] forgot what is it again ? [19:43] mac- (i=mac@to.pieprzony.abuser.eu) joined ##slackware. [19:43] tbx: Mention the related information related to your question, including what you have already tried. [19:43] alienBOB, you could say it's five by one. [19:43] macman_ (n=macman_@adsl-75-31-90-124.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:44] macman_ (n=macman_@adsl-75-31-90-124.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:44] ctrl + alt + backspace sucks [19:44] lol [19:45] better than ctrl + alt + del [19:45] haha [19:45] ok does this look right [19:45] lsmod | grep zd1211 yields: zd1211rw 48516 0; mac80211 158108 1 zd1211rw ;; as I said, I cannot recall the commands to ifup it. [19:46] macman_: that looks perfect [19:46] i want to tar files on a windows machine and copy them to my external .. tar cf - My Documents/ |gzip -c > My Documents.tgz | cp /meia/External/ [19:46] Regardless of the ratio, it will now drop markedly. As for alienBOBs ratio during the time I have been active here, it is less than 5% and thus considered unsignificant in either direction. I guess that should be interpreted as an insult. Or...? [19:46] or is there a better way ? [19:46] the drive im taring is to small [19:47] Good night everyone. Thanks for a nice, warm atmosphere and good luk with everyones current dilemmas. [19:47] or should i just cd to the external and do the taring and do it to . [19:47] luck of course ;) [19:48] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC02E4D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [19:48] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:49] tbx maybe you will find what you need at http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network [19:50] macman_: How small is the drive? [19:51] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@115.126.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [19:51] MLanden- its a 29 gig windows box .. fat32 .. when i boot with a live cd all the time it seems to freeze when im taring [19:52] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:52] prolly compressing in the memory as well [19:53] how do i get paste this .. do i cd to the external and tar from there ? [19:55] while still doing a live session? [19:56] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:57] _guitarman_ (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [19:57] <_guitarman_> hey all.. i am wondering if my system got powned... no irc connection yet nmap says port 6667 is open... i have uninstalled bitlbee... any ideas? [19:58] <_guitarman_> 37/tcp open time (32 bits) [19:58] <_guitarman_> 113/tcp open ident [19:58] <_guitarman_> 6667/tcp open tcpwrapped [19:59] you could....try to connect to it [20:00] <_guitarman_> lol - that makes sense. [20:00] if I upgrade to slackware-current, will it install KDE 4? [20:01] lee555J5 (n=lee@24-178-190-45.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:01] <_guitarman_> straterra - i telnet to that port, it connects, then disconnects [20:03] koolniczka (n=nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:03] _guitarman_, its because the inetd entry from bitlbee [20:03] hasnt been removed [20:05] lee555J5 (n=lee@24-178-190-45.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:05] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [20:05] <_guitarman_> martian67 - oh weird. i'll look into that. [20:05] lee555J5 (n=lee@24-178-190-45.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:06] <_guitarman_> you are the king martian67 - [20:06] <_guitarman_> thx! [20:06] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:06] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:06] greetings and salutations [20:07] dabble (n=dabble@74.11.116.2) joined ##slackware. [20:07] Greetings andarius. How are you? [20:08] gm152_ (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:08] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:08] salutations firebird619. i am well. you ? [20:08] <_guitarman_> i really want to lock my slackware box down - any suggestions for a good doc - is the section in the slackbook sufficent? [20:09] andarius: I am great. Thank you. [20:09] is anyone here able to sucessfully suspend slackware in a vmware session? I get "could not execute vmware scripts..." error when trying to suspend. [20:09] _guitarman_, just shutting off servers/daemons you dont use [20:09] should be sufficent [20:09] I've checked that rc.vmware-tools is +x and is loaded from rc.M [20:10] <_guitarman_> k - shoudl i be worried that time and ident show in an nmap scan? i notice nothing showed when i scanned ubuntu [20:10] as far as slackware current goes, will it install KDE 4 if I upgrade from slackware 12.2 to Slackware-Current? [20:10] bbeecher1 (n=bbeecher@cpe-74-72-194-84.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:10] bbeecher1 (n=bbeecher@cpe-74-72-194-84.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:10] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [20:11] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: "Leaving" [20:11] bbeecher1 (n=bbeecher@cpe-74-72-194-84.nyc.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [20:11] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [20:12] <_guitarman_> woot - thx martian67- all ports closed now [20:12] _guitarman_, just shut them off in identd.conf [20:12] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-71-168-128-240.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:12] <_guitarman_> i did that - thx. [20:12] <_guitarman_> you are wise :) [20:13] <_guitarman_> i appreciate the help very much [20:15] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [20:15] yht|afc (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [20:17] grazymax (n=grazymax@host198-154-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Success [20:18] <_guitarman_> tcpdump and nmap are awesome! [20:18] grazymax (n=grazymax@host182-152-dynamic.36-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:18] take care,folks....bbiab [20:18] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-169-170.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [20:18] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [20:19] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:22] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:23] ivan8013_ (n=ivan8013@115.126.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [20:25] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [20:27] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [20:27] anyway to force a disk out from the cli besides just regualr eject ? [20:28] ivan8013_ (n=ivan8013@115.126.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: "Saliendo" [20:30] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:30] hidee ho [20:30] Action: NaCl waves [20:30] Zozma (n=Winter@98.125.133.248) joined ##slackware. [20:30] bahh [20:31] good neighbor [20:33] tbx (n=tbx@216.229.190.187) left ##slackware ("Client exiting"). [20:33] macman_, did you umount it first? [20:36] macman_ (n=macman_@adsl-75-31-90-124.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:36] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-119-51.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:36] macman_ (n=macman_@adsl-75-31-93-56.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:37] macman_ (n=macman_@adsl-75-31-93-56.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:37] "pour some NaCl on me, oooo in the name of love." --deaf leopard [20:38] NaCl abuse! [20:38] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-182-175.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:39] There are just some places i wouldn't want NaCl. [20:39] and, hello Old_Fogie. How goes it? [20:40] oh pretty good, and you? [20:40] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@115.126.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:40] Eatting a braut and drinking some beer, couldn't be better. [20:40] nice :) [20:41] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-8fa1b5764b7fd6f8) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:42] it's almost as good as 'pour some sugar on me' --def leppard [20:43] grazymax (n=grazymax@host182-152-dynamic.36-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:43] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-6ab2830337bc3976) joined ##slackware. [20:43] grazymax (n=grazymax@host62-179-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:44] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009082254.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "Saindo" [20:46] Tagami (n=Winter@72-160-220-139.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:49] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-14-135-46.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:51] "sugar", heh, if I eat another jelly bean I'm sure I'm gonna have a diabetic fit, I've been muching these darn things for days now. There's goes my "girlish figure", hee hee :) [20:51] aBiNg (n=aBiNg@218.94.136.171) joined ##slackware. [20:52] lol. Hi Old_Fogie. How are you? [20:52] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-169-170.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:52] :D [20:52] back [20:52] Heya,Old_Fogie [20:52] doing ok, if I can keep my hand outta the candy [20:53] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left ##slackware. [20:54] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-71-168-128-240.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:54] raise your hand if your still getting over the "gorging fest" that was Sunday's dinner ... /me waves both hands :) \0/ [20:54] Old_Fogie: eviljames was saying you've built the latest compiz (compiz++?) and he mentioned there was a new dep or something. Can you for the most part follow the build order on SBo? [20:55] firebird619, yes you can, but you need a lib called 'protobuf' it has to be onboard before the libcompizconfig [20:55] Fzza3a (n=Fzza3a@41.221.17.21) joined ##slackware. [20:55] hey :) [20:55] it took the normal config options that you see in SlackBuilds, I didn't notice any odd perm's, etc. [20:56] I can install slackware from source ? [20:56] seemed like a pretty striaght forward build, for a change :) [20:56] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-14-135-46.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:56] Old_Fogie: Ok, I was thinking I'd build it. Thanks for the info. [20:56] ok [20:57] Action: NaCl wishes that the radeon drivers actually supported compositing with xinerama. :( [20:57] Fzza3a, you can, but I've never tried, or known anyone to actually do it (but I dont know everything, or everyone) [20:57] Fzza3a, the build order isn't posted, so you'll have to guess... see ya next year :) [20:58] NaCl, I've got xinerama on the list, but yet to get there and try [20:59] Apparently I have more pixels than does the radeon driver's 3D overlay. [20:59] so does a 80's flipphone...blasted radeon's [21:00] lol [21:00] cHiOs (n=chio@CPE-65-29-166-235.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:01] Action: NaCl is waiting for ATI to get a driver that works with -current [21:01] s/get/make [21:03] Action: Old_Fogie stands by with the respirator and shock paddles as NaCl holds his breath. [21:03] Action: MLanden shouts out "CLEAR!!"...:D [21:04] Sorry,couldn't help.. >:) [21:04] Action: NaCl is electrified yet again [21:04] it makes no sense, I can get ati binary blobs to build on the long term support kernel 2.6.27.XXX in Debian for a family member here, with same card I got, and yet... it won't build on Slackware. I have no idea why, but ticks me off. I think the person(s) who make the install scripts for the ATI blobs have messed up ? I don't know, don't get it. [21:04] gotta say i'm likin nvidia. ma old x1600 collecting dust [21:05] hmmm...shocking salt [21:05] I'm probably going to take the debian '.config' for the 2.6.27.XXX kernel, and try and build it on Slack and see what happens then. [21:05] grazymax (n=grazymax@host62-179-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Connection timed out [21:05] because, if it don't work then, then the only thing I can think of it being is the ATI install scripts. [21:06] I tried to just "compile" it, and it failed. [21:06] NaCl, 'msi...' spammed? [21:06] error's [21:06] and 'pci_..." too [21:06] ? [21:06] lemme see... [21:07] /usr/share/ati/fglrx_got_screwed_again.log or something like that. [21:07] is the log file location [21:07] Yeah. Thing is that I fragged the log the last time I tried to use it. [21:08] And I am currently in X. [21:08] Action: NaCl temporarily ditches X [21:08] never mind! A gui popped up. [21:09] well, I can tell you this, I've noticed, that these more recent versions frig up mesa, by doing some symlink magic on libGL.so and whatnot, and hack some HIMEM.h file too, so they not only fail installing/building, but also corrupt files on the box and render it useless to ever have them build again. [21:09] NaCl: resolution look OK? [21:09] grazymax (n=grazymax@host31-4-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [21:10] gbelknap (n=gbelknap@71.182.60.44) joined ##slackware. [21:10] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:10] does anyone ever use geoip? [21:11] stillborn (n=stillbor@YKMCI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [21:11] MLanden: yeah. On both screens [21:11] cool,NaCl...good to hear [21:12] They don't flop *that* badly, fortunately. [21:13] Old_Fogie: I'm getting different errors [21:14] dabble (n=dabble@74.11.116.2) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:14] oh, interesting. yea i get some errors referencing pci_? and msi_? <-I forget what goes in the ? signs [21:14] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:15] I got something like "struct task_struct has no member 'euid'" [21:15] now what kern version are you using? [21:15] The funny thing is that the FOSS drivers actually work better than ATI's drivers [21:15] Old_Fogie: 2.6.29 [21:16] ah, yeah I cant get any ati except august 2008 to build on Slackware 12.1 or 12.2; haven't tried --current [21:16] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:16] I had to replace the HDD on this box, and alienBOB suggested that I try out -current's installer since I couldn't get 12.2's working [21:16] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:16] s/--current/--current for ati building I mean [21:17] ok [21:18] I've heard of noone having luck on 2.6.29 yet, and since the last ATI version that came out doesn't support 2.6.29 kernels, and any ati binary releases after this past month won't support my cards, I wont be trying it either as family/friends that do have ATI have all been forced to go to radeon by ATI's infinite wisdom [21:19] Action: NaCl will be getting a nvidia card next time [21:19] agreed [21:19] i' [21:19] hm... my card is also pre-DirectX 10. [21:19] nooooooooooooooooooooooooo [21:19] I got a slack box here, p3 500 with nvidia, and it runs compiz-fusion like lightenting [21:19] wonder: is it 'nuh-vidia' or 'en-vidia' [21:20] but ATI...nope [21:20] Action: NaCl looks for cheap nvidia cards [21:20] antler, I've always said it the latter of the two (but who am I anyhow :) [21:20] macman_ (n=macman_@adsl-75-31-93-56.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] Same [21:20] Old_Fogie: me too [21:20] geforce mx 400 will do fusion [21:20] man im pissed [21:20] a pci one [21:20] I'm using one [21:20] on 30 bux [21:21] I can't live without dual screens anymore. :P [21:21] i been trying to mount my external hd from al ive cd on this windows box and it keeps erroring out [21:21] skibur (i=1000@12.197.207.99) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:22] Cheapest NVIDIA graphics card with two outputs: $50 [21:23] Fzza3a (n=Fzza3a@41.221.17.21) left irc: "Leaving" [21:23] oh yea? probably sli or pci x [21:23] we only have agp/8x/4x/2x here [21:23] Sorry. Cheapest AGP. [21:23] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:24] agp is like gold these days, the pcix are so much cheaper, what gives :) [21:24] At least at the local retailer. [21:24] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:24] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:24] only local we got is Best Buy, and they hose you now that there's no competition here. [21:24] stillbor2 (n=stillbor@YKMDCCV.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:24] A SATA drive is cheaper than an IDE drive these days, too. :( [21:24] dont remind me, I'm sure soon, I'll be having some grief, my drives are aging [21:25] guys .. atapi /hdc is normally the cdrom right ? [21:25] It can be. [21:25] It is on this box, anyway. [21:25] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.33.33) joined ##slackware. [21:26] Old_Fogie: I've also heard that SATA-to IDE adapters are generally expensive and don't work as well as a direct connection. [21:27] oh? hmmm, I haven't tried yet, but that alarming. [21:27] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [21:27] Action: NaCl doesn't want to get new boxen. [21:29] grazymax (n=grazymax@host31-4-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Connection timed out [21:37] gm152_ (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:37] Old_Fogie: from a perusing of newegg, SATA-IDE adapters are really YMMV devices... [21:38] RaeGrepus (n=superGea@8.7.69.43) joined ##slackware. [21:38] j0z (n=UNIX@189-11-44-186.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:38] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.252.135.128) joined ##slackware. [21:39] NaCl, just what you want to hear before you buy. I can see myself saying "oh how many shipbacks is this gonna be to reach harmony" [21:39] Hence why I am moderately pleased that there is a non-best buy retailer near me. [21:40] yea, but boy they charge an arm and a leg for everything here now. they *know* they got us here good, with no competition now. [21:41] "competition" at it's best indeed... [21:41] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:45] NaCl: YMMV ? [21:45] Your mileage may vary [21:46] ah [21:49] anyone else here on the latest -curren? [21:49] Dominian: I am [21:49] NaCl: can you do: grep netdev /etc/group for me [21:49] netdev:x:86:nacl [21:49] that's what I thought [21:50] eh? [21:50] thanks [21:50] testing something on the latest slamd64 updates [21:50] noticed that a user/group isn't present.. that's what I neede to see [21:50] Ok. np. [21:50] maybe your user account isn't in the slamd64 'sga' group? [21:51] slamd64 genuine advantage, so you don't get updates ? [21:51] Old_Fogie: you running LGA? [21:51] oh yup sure :) [21:53] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.33.33) left irc: "Leaving" [21:53] superGear (n=superGea@8.7.69.43) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:53] superGear (n=superGea@8.7.69.30) joined ##slackware. [21:55] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.33.33) joined ##slackware. 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[22:27] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [22:27] Zozma (n=Winter@98.125.133.248) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:29] nophis (n=amenophi@unaffiliated/nophis) left irc: "Leaving" [22:30] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:35] find . -name "*.doc" -exec cp {} /media/external/doc/ \; ? [22:35] does that look decent ? [22:35] i keep getting messages saying its wrong [22:36] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [22:36] says last argument something *.doc is not a directory [22:36] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [22:37] macman_: -print {} \; [22:37] why -print ? [22:38] thumbs: can you type out the whoel command ? [22:39] find . -name "*.doc" | xargs cp /media/external/doc ? [22:39] why xargs ? [22:40] that command dosen't work [22:41] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [22:42] hm [22:42] cp missing destination file [22:42] find . -name "*.doc" | xargs -I {} cp {} /media/external/doc [22:43] xargs says thats bad [22:43] Action: thrice` is bad at find :( [22:45] that xargs works in solaris [22:45] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-72-82-162-241.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:47] NetrixTardis (n=leoem@stealth3.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:48] Fzza3a (n=Fzza3a@41.221.17.21) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:48] nachox: hey :) [22:48] hi acidchild [22:49] fucking host is run by labotomised monkeys [22:49] spook: the hosting industry is run by monkeys. [22:49] nachox: how you doing? [22:49] spook: use the frozen eel cannon on them? [22:50] http://trailandenduro.com/test.php [22:50] Action: acidchild fears the frozen eel cannon. [22:50] register globals is on. they have no cpanel. they only made one database, didnt tell me how to connect to it, had to complain to get phpmyadmin.amnet.net.au out of them [22:51] the password username combo they gave me was invalid for it. [22:51] acidchild, not bad, a bit sleepy, yourself? [22:51] dont have permission to make new users or databases, and now phpbb wont connect to the database through the socket. [22:51] same... just got back from wings and beer.. :-) [22:51] me too! [22:52] the thing is, this is the new webserver department of my isp, and probally the place i want to work after i graduate [22:52] i got a free pizzookie because the power went out for 30 mins [22:52] i got two bottles of bundy for $60 [22:53] the 5th size? [22:54] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:54] ummm... 700ml? [22:54] yeah [22:54] 750 is a 5th i think [22:54] do they have bundaberg rum there? 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[23:12] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [23:14] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: [23:18] Zozma (n=Winter@75-121-135-98.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:20] RaeGrepus (n=superGea@8.7.69.29) joined ##slackware. [23:25] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:27] rworkman, this you? http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7874/tampabaymugshotsindex12.jpg [23:27] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:27] edman007: close. My eyes aren't that big though. [23:27] lol [23:28] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:28] It's R L Workman, to, iirc. [23:28] I wonder what that guy is on. Wow. [23:28] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [23:28] hahaha [23:28] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@115.126.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:28] He could probably do some serious coding for *days* [23:28] hahah some expression [23:29] patrick william fields is seriously gonna get porked in the can [23:29] ahaha [23:29] brilliant [23:30] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:30] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [23:30] See? This is why I don't get any work done ;-) [23:31] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Connection reset by peer [23:31] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [23:32] Winter__ (n=Winter@98.125.128.106) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:32] antler: So.. you're saying you find him attractive...? [23:33] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:33] Dominian, i think antler just know what its like to be in a situation like that [23:33] Dominian: hahah no. i'm saying guys named arlington 'the rapist' baker would [23:34] lol [23:34] does anyone use the artwiz fonts? [23:34] i'm having issues getting them recognized by fluxbox and gtk and stuff [23:34] they show up in xfontsel [23:34] dude that site is awesome [23:34] anyone have any ideas? [23:35] LinuxyErin, what is artwiz? [23:36] i'm not good at art...want me to draw a smiley face? [23:36] :) [23:36] or need something bigger? [23:36] superGear (n=superGea@8.7.69.45) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:37] Action: antler wonders how edman007 is able to draw with those tiny little t-rex arms of his [23:37] dang man http://mugshots.tampabay.com/mugs/hillsborough/2009/apr/14/09020845/ [23:37] brutal woman [23:37] kinda pretty too [23:38] yeah, i'd do her [23:38] risk my life at the same time. rather exciting [23:38] she'd kill you [23:38] lol [23:38] And they even offer "ShareThis". Fantastic. [23:38] lmao [23:39] lol [23:39] lol [23:39] ratemymugshot.com? [23:39] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [23:40] SM177Y (i=SM177Y__@204.38.197.11) left irc: "Leaving" [23:41] hrm [23:41] artwiz is just a collection of X fonts [23:41] mugshot.noobfarm.org... [23:41] heh [23:41] Dominian: that would be cruel and unusual punishment. :P [23:42] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:42] beej71 (n=beej@zork.zork.net) joined ##slackware. [23:42] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [23:45] omg. i would NOT mess with this woman/man: http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/pub/default.asp?/Online/FULLPHOTO/URL?bn=09020784&name=MCCRARY,LAQUANDA%20S&race=B&vex=QQADQ?E$ENE! [23:46] Nick change: RaeGrepus -> superGear [23:46] oh, exploitable =)) [23:46] http://mugshots.s3.amazonaws.com/mugs%2F09020049.jpg [23:47] k, i just pissed myself. [23:47] (from fear, no doubt) [23:49] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:52] hm. In modern versions of Slackware, where the heck do ghostscript and xpdf look for TTF fonts? standard /usr/share/fonts dir? [23:53] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:53] strace shows it trying to open a bunch of nonexistent .pfb files in /usr/share/ghostscript/fonts [23:54] tux4prez (n=tux4prez@24-180-124-25.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:54] hi [23:54] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:55] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [23:55] hrm just found another leecher [23:56] another lemonpartier? [23:56] ah nevermind.. already on my list [23:56] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.252.135.128) left irc: "leaving" [23:56] Urchlay: and yes [23:57] edman007: badass site, man [23:58] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:59] chance22 (n=chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:00] --- Wed Apr 15 2009