[00:00] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [00:00] Hi. [00:00] heya, riza [00:01] Evening MLanden! [00:04] is it possible to upgrade from 12.0 to 13.1 without having to do a fresh install? [00:05] possible yes but not ideal [00:05] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:05] And scary. [00:05] lol [00:05] nice [00:05] Believe me, I asked that questioon before. [00:06] riza, i think i'm just lazy [00:06] shonudo: What's version kernel in 12.0? [00:06] a custom kernel (2.6.24.2) [00:06] which probably means: don't do it [00:06] ouch...that would be one huge leap [00:06] indeed [00:07] You'd be alone. [00:07] yup [00:07] Unless you are a harder kernel hacker. In which case you'd do it whether we say to or not. 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[01:10] That's like switching between steak and shit. [01:10] dios_mio (test@88.242.169.199) left irc: Quit: HOMOSEX IS YOUR BIRTH-RIGHT [01:10] clijunkie (1000@mail.webmasterforhire.net) joined ##slackware. [01:10] Good Evening all. Can anyone recommend a simple tool for reading exif data from an image? [01:10] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:10] rworkman: some people don't like steak, either ;) [01:11] haha [01:11] and I suppose there are some who like shit. [01:11] *snort* [01:11] I mean, as Ron White said, there are multiple kinds of crazy. [01:11] lol [01:11] clijunkie: i've had good luck with http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/libraries/exiftool/ [01:11] rworkman, he also said "you can't fix stupid" ;) [01:11] "He's crazy" can mean "He rolls his shit into little balls and eats it." [01:12] "He's crazy" can mean "It's Chris Punches." [01:12] trhodes: Doh, I knew I should have checked there first. Thanks trhodes. [01:12] user0 (~user0@adsl-99-141-235-7.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:12] ... Ooh, sucks for him. Should have rolled his shit into little balls. [01:12] clijunkie: you're welcome, there are others, there too, that's just one I have used [01:12] rworkman: it's called scat fetish [01:12] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:12] well, ron burgandy tought us about afternoon delight [01:12] rworkman, and ate crayons. [01:12] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.223.55) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:12] cell_x (~cell_x@ip98-162-234-8.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:12] fire|bird: yes. :) [01:13] Leaded paint chips in this case, though, I think. [01:15] jayne (maddhatt@freenode/staff/jayne) left irc: Read error: Connection refused [01:15] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:18] j0z (unix@201.47.20.14.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[02:50] heya, slava_dp [02:50] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Quit: Usar Linux amacia o cabelo [02:51] o/ [02:51] heya, adrien [02:55] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4419, sources date: 20100519, built on: 2010-06-04 01:07:21 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [02:57] morning MLanden, how goes? [02:58] morning adrien good, thanks...you? [02:58] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:59] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:00] yup, good too here, better clean my room before it gets too hot here [03:01] in case you ever wondered why the openssl slackbuild for -64 disables sse2 ... dont try to find out by rebuilding the package via http://pastebin.ca/1900294 [03:01] otzy_007 (~oz@pc55078.static.is.airbites.ro) joined ##slackware. [03:01] adrien: awesome...keep cool!! ;) [03:02] otzy_007 (oz@pc55078.static.is.airbites.ro) left ##slackware. [03:03] hte no-idea switch is awesome [03:03] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:03] s/hte/the [03:05] long story short: it resulted in a quite small solibs package ... i didnt inspect carefully, upgradepkg, and poof, a significant portion of my libs were gone. i managed to save the system, but please god, you have a sick sense of humour. [03:07] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:07] should have checked the package contents before upgrading [03:08] yeah, i blame the heat. also, if anyone wants to have fun with a malicious package... i still got it :) [03:09] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:11] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[03:16] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:22] hehe, ok ;-) [03:22] and btw, I hate how end-of-line backslashes intereact with comments on the following line [03:22] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-219.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:23] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:23] you do? welcome to the club ;) [03:27] first time, it sent like: "hey, that ought to work, that's shell script, it makes sense" [03:27] ten minutes later... "oh, it doesn't >< " [03:27] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:31] im just glad i knew enough to save my system. would have been a real PITA to either reinstall or go 13.1 [03:33] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [03:36] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [03:38] bosth (~ben@95.65.161.128) joined ##slackware. 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[04:06] That was... odd. [04:07] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [04:07] and not the only thing being "odd", recently. [04:07] oh? [04:07] :) [04:08] my personal list of slackware pitfalls is growing. maybe is should document it somewhere. [04:09] ah :) [04:10] but not via a blog. im a man. my mobile phone bill is a few cents a month. i wouldn't know what to write. maybe some faq-like .txt, i happen to like those single-file collections of ... things. [04:11] hehe [04:11] rworkman: and thanks for your patience with the xfce mousepad find/replace bug :) [04:12] andrew_46: thanks for pursuing it - much appreciated [04:12] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [04:12] ah, before i again forget to ask you (didnt want to bother you by mail), your xorg 1.8 build is for 13.1 or 13.0, rworkman ? [04:12] jg71: 13.1 [04:13] I'm using it on two x86_64 boxes, and one i486 (thatone has gsb installed also) [04:13] k, guess ill give it a try soon-ish. last resort to get intel graphics foo going on my ancient laptop [04:13] and I tried it on antoher i486 box, with an intel 865 chipset - all was fine [04:14] That chipset was a tough one - it didn't work at all on 13.0 with that Xorg stack; no idea about 13.1 (I forgot to check) [04:14] rworkman: with intelfb working? [04:14] ill send feedback when i test it [04:15] MLanden: KMS you mean? If so, yes. [04:15] jg71: thanks [04:15] awesome [04:15] morning lads o/ [04:16] hey phrag [04:16] Radeon KMS with 2.6.34.1 also works great on two different machines here - ATI Technologies Inc RS690 [Radeon X1200 Series] (using radeonhd before) and ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] (in an old t30) [04:16] phrag: ola [04:17] heya,phrag [04:18] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:19] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [04:19] andrew_46 (andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) left ##slackware. [04:20] Is there a way to figure out how long a process have been running? I've got some apparently stuck postfix pipes, but I don'— want to kill them without first knowing how long they've been sitting there. [04:20] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [04:20] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [04:20] heya [04:21] downgrading my intel driver solved the problem :) [04:22] GAh! Never mind.. ps axu [04:22] Action: ThomasLocke slaps himself [04:23] psaux [04:26] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [04:28] there are some nice memory hooks out there ... ps -> aux (ilary connectors), netstat -tulpen (german for tulips) ... oh well, i got sidetracked again. [04:28] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [04:39] Morn [04:39] ds9? [04:41] heya, Zordrak [04:41] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [04:42] How do you pronounce Yso as a first name? I'm guessing ee-so [04:42] Why So? [04:42] Why So Sad? scnr [04:42] Doesn't that assume you pronounce the letter Y as the enclish do? [04:43] If it helps i think he's Dutch [04:43] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.136.223) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:43] small but important detail on an ELANG chan. 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[04:58] server error for me [04:58] yeh, weird error [04:58] same here [04:58] mark this date on your calendar [04:58] I think my life never will be the same again [05:01] http://gizmodo.com/5062237/world-of-warcraft-seems-like-kind-of-a-silly-hobby [05:01] lol...can see the headline...youtube's servers down on Bastille Day....youtube jailed..;) [05:02] phrag: lol [05:05] phrag: lol....whoah [05:21] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-421342.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:21] what?!? no cases of snacks to hold him over the seige? [05:23] troy (~troy@dsl-67-55-6-203.acanac.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:25] eXgame (~eXgame@78-60-222-36.static.zebra.lt) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:26] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. 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[07:01] mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) left irc: Quit: mosno [07:03] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:08] not good for a mysql machine either [07:08] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:08] chanfail? [07:12] window fail :) [07:12] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [07:12] heh [07:16] aziztcf (~aziztcf@dial-82-141-85-195.kotinet.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:19] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.65.116) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [07:23] Keyboard not present. Press F1 to continue. [07:24] lol [07:24] Exqueeze me? Uh, baking powder? [07:24] heh - always a perennial favorite [07:27] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:27] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-107-17.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:29] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [07:30] whats your favourite way to do basic maths on the command line? [07:30] python [07:30] or for real basic math - $((xxx)) [07:30] echo $(( xxx )) [07:30] as long as it works with ints [07:31] im thinking about doing basic tax stuff.. working percentages of figures kind of thing [07:31] python [07:31] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-187-50-68.mts.modulonet.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:31] import math [07:31] for extra functionality [07:32] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.40.237) joined ##slackware. [07:33] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:33] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-2-75.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:33] ouyuu (~hpo3@2001:da8:8000:d010:0:5efe:dac1:b59b) joined ##slackware. [07:33] bc [07:34] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-jfncbgcjpcocgpmg) joined ##slackware. [07:39] Zordrak, http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/022 [07:39] john_dee (~id@93-81-138-162.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:40] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) joined ##slackware. [07:40] Hello. How could you leave messages for another user in the system? [07:40] something that he can see, like a onscreen message or mail. internal mail [07:40] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [07:40] mail works [07:41] thank you [07:43] np :) [07:43] wall+ [07:43] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. [07:43] By that i mean, use "wall" [07:43] I thought he meant offline messages [07:44] he said "like onscreen message" [07:44] and wall is perfect for that [07:44] even bings the system bell in KD [07:44] *KDE [07:44] I misunderstood then. [07:44] yeah, wall is cool for instant messaging. [07:45] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [07:45] talk is also useful if you have the daemon running [07:46] yea, just check it out, very nice [07:46] yes, and the daemon is activated via inetd. [07:47] Action: slava_dp is reminded to turn on talkd on the box he's working on. [07:47] Zordrak, do you remember if the port is talk or ntalk? [07:47] mrcarrot (~lasse@86-60-154-229-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) joined ##slackware. [07:48] *shrug* sorry [07:48] kk [07:48] havent used it in a long time [07:48] no need to really [07:49] it's ntalk. [07:51] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-2-75.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:54] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:56] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-111-127.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:59] j0z_ (unix@201.22.42.100.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:59] j0z_ (unix@201.22.42.100.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [07:59] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [07:59] mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) joined ##slackware. [08:02] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) left irc: Quit: exit error code 434 [08:03] Action: mrcarrot wants a bit of icecream... here is way too hot [08:08] archceza1 (1000@avz197.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:09] archcezar (1000@aju249.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [08:10] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:15] notKlaatu (~sxe@office.vivisimo.com) joined ##slackware. [08:17] Kaapa (~Something@a95-93-240-222.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:18] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [08:20] candinho (~candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) joined ##slackware. [08:20] Kaapa (~Something@a95-93-240-222.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:22] is anyone bored? [08:22] why [08:22] trying to work out why part clone borks when looking for ntfs support at compile. [08:23] in fact its ld thats complaining it cant find -lntfs [08:23] ah. sorry, can't help there [08:23] can you find it with locate? [08:24] its all where it should be [08:24] is the path in ld.so.conf? [08:24] Skywise: O_o [08:24] yes /usr/lib is in ld.so.conf [08:25] and you've run ldconfig, is it possible the ntfs options needs to point to /usr/lib? [08:25] such as --enable-ntfs=/usr/lib [08:26] is ntfs compiled in the kernel or is ntfs module available in the kernel? [08:26] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.99) joined ##slackware. [08:26] alisonken1home: its not the module it wants.. just the libs [08:26] ah [08:27] alisonken1home: configure tries to compile "./src/deplib_version.c" with -lntfs -DNTFS [08:27] and at that point ld dies with "cannot find -lntfs" [08:28] pass LDFLAGS to it ;) [08:28] looks like the -lntfs is missing the path [08:28] i wonder if its really just looking for the .h file [08:29] -l/usr/include/ntfs [08:30] o__O [08:30] for linking? [08:30] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:30] for finding the header files [08:30] i think some people around here are too easily startled [08:31] oh, I thought you said it was failing during linking, and not compiling [08:31] alisonken1home: would that be -I/usr/include/ntfs ? [08:31] Zordrak: that's what I'm seeing [08:31] i.e. -I not /l [08:31] as thats about including headers not linking libs [08:31] but its linking thats the prob [08:31] either that or -l/usr/include/ntfs or -l/usr/include/ntfs-3g [08:32] nooooo [08:32] I saw mention of configure having an issue [08:32] thrice`: no who? [08:33] this is off topic, but does anyone know why windows is always leaving some empty space in the end of an hd [08:33] configure dies because ld fails. During configure, the way it tests ntfs support is to compile some C that pulls version info. The compile is passed -lntfs as a parameter.. and thats what makes ld die [08:33] you didn't say it died during configure [08:34] and inside the ntfs lib its looking for ntfs_libntfs_version... but without the lib it cant get it [08:34] candinho (~candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:34] see if it wants a different parameter instead [08:34] try adding LDFLAGS="-L/usr/lib" ./configure or so [08:34] oh that could work [08:35] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:35] but what if the 3g is the preferred option and just ntfs is depreciated [08:35] thrice`: no joy [08:36] Skywise: then it would be set up for itp. [08:36] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [08:36] can you pastebin the output? [08:36] Skywise: go back to whatever you were doing.. you have a helpful rating into negative numbers [08:36] actually, look at config.log [08:36] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) joined ##slackware. [08:36] (and, this is not 64-bit, right?) [08:36] no no [08:36] you won't have ask me twice [08:37] thrice`: http://pastebin.ca/1900405 [08:37] I have two scripts in /etc/rc.d and I want to make them autostart. i did a chmod +x but they wont autostart [08:37] Tsooi (~scruffy@ti0125a380-0697.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [08:37] add them to your /etc/rc.d/rc.local [08:37] as /etc/rc.d/rc.script start? [08:37] yes [08:38] thrice`: config.log is of no more use [08:38] Zordrak: does /usr/lib/libntfs.la exist? [08:38] thank you [08:38] or /usr/libntfs.so.10.0.0 ? [08:38] or /usr/lib/ntfs.so.10.0.0 ? [08:39] /usr/lib/libntfs .la .so .so.10 .so.10.0.0 [08:39] mmm [08:39] samfisher, you can also enable rc.sysvinit so that any file +x will be run at boot/shutdown [08:40] the line in configure thats actually dying is: gcc -static ./src/deplib_version.c -o ./get_lib_version -lntfs -DNTFS [08:40] Skywise, no it won't [08:40] Skywise, read rc.sysvinit carefully [08:41] right, it has to be in /etc/rc.d/rc.$runlevel. now [08:41] Skywise: Seriously.. why do you keep giving people advice when you have no idea what you're talking about? We've been through this before. Extensively. [08:41] i just looked [08:41] Zordrak, lick my nuts [08:41] seriously [08:41] they're sweaty [08:41] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [08:41] 15:30 < mrcarrot> this is off topic, but does anyone know why windows is always leaving some empty space in the end of an hd [08:41] i solved this myself [08:42] because microsoft uses excel for calculating? [08:42] you can not make a dynamic disk without empty space [08:42] so no software raid [08:42] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:42] Zordrak, no clue, really :( you're trying version 0.1.9 ? [08:42] windows is using that space for software raid [08:43] thrice`: of? [08:43] partclone [08:43] ouyuu (~hpo3@2001:da8:8000:d010:0:5efe:dac1:b59b) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:43] oh, 0.2.x I suppose [08:43] im on git cause i was hoping it might have fixed the compile issues frow earlier [08:43] same error in 0.2 [08:44] im wondering if its related to the way gcc is calling ld [08:44] im playing around and cant seem to pass it ANY libs [08:44] what can i pass to -l that should definitely work no matter what [08:46] hmmmmmmmmmmmmm [08:46] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:46] removing -static stops it bitching [08:46] out of curiousity Zordrak, what do you need partclone for... it is best run from a live cd [08:46] and such are existing already [08:46] mrcarrot: to access an image in partclone format [08:46] at this point, I'd download their .deb and use it :> [08:47] Elektro_ (~elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:47] bah [08:47] ar p crap.deb data.tar.gz | tar xz && go get coffee instead [08:48] b [08:48] bingo [08:48] take -static out of the configure call to gcc and all is well [08:49] now i need to figure out why so make can succeed [08:49] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-5-4.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [08:49] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [08:51] Do you guys use rtorrent? I have no idea on how to make it autostart at boot. so any user can use it. I guess with screen but I have a hard time applying it [08:52] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424728.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [08:52] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424728.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:53] thrice`: and if i want it for 64? :) [08:53] samfisher, you could do run it as a cronjob, periodlically check to see if its running and if it isn't start it [08:56] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:57] rare_ (~rare@85.133.204.104) joined ##slackware. [08:58] Entulho (~foo@189.75.5.234) joined ##slackware. [08:58] sextoyHonk (d170e902@gateway/web/freenode/ip.209.112.233.2) joined ##slackware. [08:58] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [08:58] sextoyHonk kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: spammers [08:59] that was a hit I think [08:59] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-5-4.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:59] poor honk.. he just wanted to bring pleasure to the masses [09:00] but why here, where pleasure is so unappreciated [09:00] Action: slava_dp laughs [09:00] he thought it would brighten our days [09:00] bring a smile to a face [09:00] all for a price i suspect [09:01] only 5 easy payments of 19.95, plus 5.95 shipping and handling [09:01] and i was all ready to get happy, theres always a catch [09:02] are you 18 or older? always another catch as well [09:02] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-5-4.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [09:02] the prices always bother me.. why not round up, ffs :/ 2.99? damn thing is 3.00, come on [09:04] apparently people are integer based [09:04] mrcarrot (lasse@86-60-154-229-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) left ##slackware. [09:04] it's my cdop, it wants happy numbers :( [09:05] me i'm suspicous of everything thats sold on tv for $20 [09:06] erkax (~erkax@109.129.104.121) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:06] even if its a good idea, theres gonna be a flaw that just ruins its practicality that you don't notice until you get it [09:06] erkax (~erkax@109.129.27.30) joined ##slackware. [09:07] yeah. plus the whole buy now, and receive two free! [09:07] call in the next 5 minutes and we'll throw something else in!! [09:07] just pay an additional shipping and handling, and i wonder why not just throw it in the same box and save me some money [09:12] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:12] my grandma buys things from those commercials :/ [09:12] actually so has my mom [09:12] I'm doomed [09:13] don't get a cc, they don't take money orders or cod anymore [09:14] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:14] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [09:15] oh really? oh well [09:15] use one of those cash cards and buy snuggies for the family [09:16] they have leopard spots now [09:16] ohhh nice [09:16] i almost went for it [09:16] if they had done striped hyena or maybe sun bear i would of gone for it [09:16] it does sound tempting [09:17] do they have tie dye zebra stripes? [09:17] they're using focus group technology [09:17] oh i think so [09:21] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:22] nambla (~asdfasdfs@cm72.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:25] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. 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[10:20] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC01F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:21] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Client Quit [10:23] Delahunt (~robert@72.183.117.4) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:23] Hi o/ [10:24] I need some help, I want to install Slackware on my Samsung N150 Endi netbook and when I run cfdisk or cfdisk /dev/sda (I made sure /dev/sda is the HDD) I get: [10:24] "FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 3: Partition ends in the final partial cylind" [10:24] The stupid autosetup of Win7/Samsung created 4 partitions btw [10:24] Roin: i never install on a netbook.. but try use fdisk [10:25] But I'm a bit scared of fdisk since I dont want to remove windows all along ._. [10:25] danix (~danix@host114-55-dynamic.57-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:26] didnt use windows in the past 2 years, but god alone knows if I ever need it someday -.- [10:26] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:26] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [10:26] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [10:27] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [10:28] skycrash: is fdisk even able to shrink partitions? [10:28] Delahunt (~robert@72.183.117.4) joined ##slackware. [10:28] john_dee (~id@93-81-118-112.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:31] groo (~groo@187.47.46.180) joined ##slackware. [10:32] groo (~groo@187.47.46.180) left irc: Client Quit [10:32] tsomi (~tsomi@lns-bzn-32-82-254-0-146.adsl.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [10:33] Roin: no [10:33] Roin: what version windows you use? [10:34] bosth (~ben@95.65.161.128) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:34] Windows 7 :( [10:35] use a live distro for the partitioning. like parted magic for example [10:35] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [10:36] ah ok [10:37] Roin: gparted.. that's what I used for my laptop with windows 7 [10:37] Yeah, I'll get myself Parted Magic [10:37] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:38] it would be even better if you did that befpre installing windows too. maybe next time [10:38] I didnt install windows [10:38] zero7 (~crazy@89.211.97.124) joined ##slackware. [10:38] Roin: well partiton magic is sort of old http://www.symantec.com/norton/theme.jsp?themeid=partition_magic&depthpath=0&header=0 [10:38] It came pre installed on the netbook... if there wouldnt have been windows on it I wouldnt have bothered installing it at all [10:39] snL20: Parted Magic I mean, thats a Linux distro containing gparted and stuff like that [10:39] snL20, learn to read [10:39] slava_dp: I can read perfectly I just thought you meant partition magic =P [10:39] hah [10:40] Configuration files are located in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/. from http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#Many_monitor.2FDual_screen. [10:40] i MEAN that dir is only at archlinux specific ? At slackware I have standard directories [10:40] slava_dp: dont make me hurt you! [10:40] >=D [10:40] calm down guys ._. [10:40] Warning: nvidia-settings and xrandr are user friendly BUT create a xorg.conf config file, which is gradually deprecated. [10:40] paul424: thats for newer versions of xorg-server >=1.8 [10:40] paul424, that dir will be standard with xorg-1.0 [10:40] Anyway I just neeed to find a spare Thumbdrive @.@ [10:40] snL20, what did I say? [10:41] oops, s/1.0/1.8/ of course. [10:41] Roin: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php [10:41] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [10:42] uhh ok [10:42] Roin: there are different versions there even a pxe version [10:42] parted magic is better as a live cd in general [10:42] its not only a live partitioner [10:42] It is a whole OS [10:43] the guy had CloneZilla in an older version, but without even mentioning it he kicked it out [10:43] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [10:43] he did mention it [10:43] where? [10:43] didnt see it, nowhere [10:43] in the changelog [10:43] sahko: ok... if that's what he needs [10:43] or release notes [10:44] didnt see it there, must have overlooked it then [10:45] ananke (~ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:46] ah it is just so annoying that I already failed at the install on it @.@ [10:46] hmm somehow does not work kdesu emacs /etc/X11/xorg.conf [10:47] .... kdesu .... emacs.... [10:47] dude [10:47] open a shell [10:48] uhh ok xemacs :P [10:48] besides, there's no xorg.conf by default :P [10:48] ananke (~ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:48] yeap I know I generated with something [10:48] X -configure [10:49] Nick change: toast10111 -> toast10101 [10:50] uhh nothing works with kdesu [10:51] su -c 'emacs /etc/X11/xorg.conf' [10:52] Maybe that works? [10:53] if you want to fire up emacs just to edit xorg.conf, use vi or nano, or pico [10:53] or jed, or anything else [10:54] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:56] slackerpete (~slackerpe@213.122.218.128) joined ##slackware. [10:58] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:58] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.64.35.65) joined ##slackware. [10:59] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip* expired. [10:59] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [11:01] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:01] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [11:01] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:02] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [11:02] I have problem with skype, no sound form mic, only some strange noise, but in speakers it works fine, tried everything from alsamixer all channels, MIC MIC_BOOST, FRONT_MIC, CAPTURE....... everything, all combinations? [11:03] erkax (~erkax@109.129.27.30) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:04] edthix (~ed@115.135.183.8) joined ##slackware. [11:05] bitlord: run this command and talk into the mic and watch the volume meter for movement, volume meter is the last line of output in the terminal, report problems: arecord -f cd -vv /dev/null [11:06] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-66-68-104-116.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:06] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [11:06] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [11:07] mcury (~mcury@189.24.131.193) joined ##slackware. [11:07] midoatata (~midoatata@89.211.97.124) left irc: Quit: midoatata [11:08] gnubien, no volume meter is always on 00% :( [11:09] bitlord what kind of mic? internal,external,usb,bluetooth,headset? [11:09] I can hear me in speaker [11:09] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [11:09] external, with standard MIC connector for sound card [11:10] bitlord talk into mic for 5 seconds when you run this command: arecord -vv -f S16_LE -c1 -r48000 -d 5 test.wav; aplay test.wav [11:10] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:11] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [11:12] gnubien, nothing :( [11:12] bitlord read this? http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Record_from_mic [11:13] Action: phrag has written some uber bash today =) [11:13] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-66-68-104-116.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:13] zero7 (~crazy@89.211.97.124) left irc: Quit: Don't panic [11:13] zero7 (~crazy@89.211.97.124) joined ##slackware. [11:13] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [11:14] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [11:14] phrag: what does your uber bash do? [11:15] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.64.35.65) left irc: Changing host [11:15] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [11:16] brainvision (~brainvisi@host88-78-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:17] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:19] could someone have a look on my xorg.conf file , I try to configure two monitors tw o by working in TwinView mode [11:19] http://codepaste.net/mn8hvi [11:19] anyone run slackware on a nvidia ion machine? [11:19] paul424, have you tried it without an xorg.conf ? [11:20] hello men! [11:20] and gils! [11:20] girls* [11:20] I can do theat throught nvidia-settings but it does not store settings [11:21] paul424, is nvidia-settings interactive? [11:22] yes [11:22] its GUI [11:22] please boys I nees dome help with sendmail configuration, again.. [11:23] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [11:23] but I want to wait till paul424 solced his problem.. [11:23] so we will not confuse too much the chat! :) [11:24] It might take a loooooooooong time [11:24] :D :D [11:24] Zordrak: [11:25] hi Zordrak are you here? [11:25] mcury (~mcury@189.24.131.193) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:25] alphageek: or rob0 [11:25] rob0: ?? [11:26] has anyone ever mentioned to you that you're annoying? :) [11:26] thrice`: no [11:26] anyway.. [11:26] phe (1000@AToulouse-258-1-74-73.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:27] and I didn't mention you.. [11:27] no, but you have taken almost my entire buffer now :> [11:27] the problem is that my sendmail conf seems to work only when I restart the daemon [11:28] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:28] some days ago with Zordrak and rob0 we decided to manually add the smtp relay to the sendmail.cf file [11:28] then I restart the daemon and all the mails quequed were sent! [11:29] Perfetct, I thought, the problem is solved! [11:29] But now I'm seeing that sendmail doesn't work again: as I said I have to restart the daemon by doing /etc/rc.d/rc.sendmail restart [11:30] and again mails quequed are sent! [11:30] a very strange issue.. [11:30] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [11:31] I'm asking myself if it's possible that this issue comes from the fact that I edit the sendmail.cf file directly instead of editing the mc file and then recompile it again [11:31] as the sendmail help and readme says to do! [11:31] it depends on what you edit [11:31] some ideas please? [11:31] try doing it the right way and see what happens [11:31] Skywise: I add my smto to relay option [11:32] smtp* [11:32] you prolly screwed something up [11:32] on line 118 [11:32] do it with the m4 [11:32] mmm.. [11:32] there should be an option for relay domains [11:33] is that what you mean? [11:33] where?? [11:33] sorry.. [11:33] in the mc or the cf? [11:33] start at the beginning [11:33] sorry Skywise I'm not understanding what do you mena.. [11:33] you should make changes in the mc [11:33] mean* [11:33] yes and them m4 to comppile [11:34] I know.. [11:34] I know that.. [11:34] but maybe I don't know where to change the mc file.. if the option are the same that in the cf file.. [11:35] if you want to add smtp, then add this line at the bottom: [11:35] MAILER(`smtp')dnl [11:36] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:37] or are you trying to add your domain to relayed [11:37] gnubien, found something on that link, Digital at the end of page, when I set Digital high it records something but it's to load and to much noise [11:37] no no.. [11:37] I'm adding the smtp [11:37] ok that mailer rule will add smtp [11:37] bitlord need more info; run this command and paste the url the script prints to this channel, do NOT use some pastebin site due to data being truncated: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh [11:38] bitlord: choose the upload button, paste the url the script prints here [11:38] gnubien, just tried in Skype it's working now [11:38] tada! [11:38] Skywise: I need to add a new line or I have to add the smtp directly at the end of the option string [11:38] as in the cf file I did [11:39] Orlov (~richard@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Simples! [11:39] brainvision, add to your m4 file after the mailer('local')dnl [11:40] what? [11:40] you should have local already there, if not look at another m4 file in the cf source dir [11:40] maybe you misundersttod me [11:40] yeah i guess so [11:40] I'm editing the mc file.. [11:40] so.. [11:40] I have to add my stmp server.. [11:40] MAILER(smtp)dnl [11:40] gnubien, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=3931f1910c0e690eebce605dd4ae3bfa85a0affa [11:40] this is the string.. [11:41] ok [11:41] bitlord: ok [11:41] I have to make a new line and write it [11:41] or just MAILER(smtp)dnlsmtp.XXXX.XX [11:41] like I did in the cf file [11:41] MAILER(`smtp')dnl [11:41] note the quotes [11:42] gnubien, tnx. I think it will work now [11:42] I must substitue it [11:42] so [11:42] you can have more then 1 [11:42] just put it on the line after the previous one [11:42] bitlord: headset plugged into front or pc or in the back? [11:43] gnubien, now in back, tried both [11:43] MAILER(`local')dnl [11:43] MAILER(`smtp')dnl [11:43] MAILER(`cyrusv2')dnl [11:43] MAILER(procmail)dnl [11:43] ok.. [11:43] bitlord: if skype is working ok then all is well [11:43] I have earphones, and MIC separately [11:44] bitlord: not a problem usually [11:44] gnubien, tnx. again, I tried to find out what's wrong with this spend many hours on them without luck [11:45] bitlord: keep notes on how you fixed it [11:45] bitlord: you can run this command to save alsamixer settings: alsactl store as root [11:46] just raise Digital in recording section [11:46] ok now I must compile it [11:46] already stored :D [11:46] bitlord: ok, good [11:46] look what I find Skywise [11:47] if its a lot pastebin it [11:47] I knew that I must do m4 linux.mc > /etc/mail/sendmail.cf [11:47] but in the readme of cf dir.. [11:47] yes maybe is better pastebin [11:47] a moment please :) [11:47] i use the sh Build command [11:48] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:48] http://pastebin.com/eu4as0vB [11:48] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [11:48] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [11:48] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:49] it's the readme of the directory where are stored all the mc files [11:50] this is another way to install it! [11:50] tsomi (~tsomi@lns-bzn-32-82-254-0-146.adsl.proxad.net) left irc: Quit: Quitte [11:50] what I have to follow? [11:50] which one* [11:50] just a sec [11:50] yes np!!! [11:50] :) [11:51] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [11:54] brainvision try this ./Build linux.cf [11:54] mmm... [11:54] from the cf directory and then diff the linux.cf vs your /etc/mail/sendmail.cf [11:54] without telling the dir dest [11:55] if the changes are ok, then just copy linux.cf over the sendmail.cf [11:55] but.. [11:55] ./Build linux.mc [11:55] did you mean [11:55] no [11:55] sorry I'm not understanding.. [11:55] you put .cf and it knows which .mc to use [11:55] to what linux.cf are you referring? [11:56] no.. [11:56] telling Build to make linux.cf means to make a file using linux.m4 [11:56] I don't understand [11:56] er linux.mc [11:56] thats the file you were editing right? [11:56] ah... [11:56] ok.. [11:56] maybe :) [11:57] otherwise you gottan put the include path with the m4 command ant that gets messy [11:57] no the file is sendmail-slackware.mc [11:57] wait wait please [11:57] this way lets you compare the old to the new [11:57] well then just do ./Build sendmail-slackware.cf [11:58] but I prefer to install the new one directly [11:58] I backup the old one.. [11:58] it's easier, isn't it? [11:58] because for me the error is that I edit the cf file directly [11:58] instead of editing the mc and then build it! [11:59] that's my opinion, naturraly :) [11:59] mmm.. [11:59] if you wanna pipe the command like that, then you need to remember to preload the cf.m4 file [12:00] otherwise you just run Build and then copy the new file over [12:00] look at this error [12:00] bash-4.1# ./Build sendmail-slackware.mc [12:00] /usr/bin/m4:sendmail-slackware.mc:42: cannot open `/usr/share/sendmail/cf/mailer/smtp.telecom.it.m4': No such file or directory [12:00] bash-4.1# [12:00] thats wrong [12:00] it should .cf [12:00] oh right!! [12:00] sorry!! [12:00] its tricky [12:01] oh shit!!! [12:01] /usr/bin/m4:sendmail-slackware.cf:1679: cannot open `/usr/share/sendmail/cf/mailer/.m4': No such file or directory [12:01] *** ERROR: No system type defined (use OSTYPE macro) [12:01] bash-4.1# [12:02] OSTYPE(linux)dnl [12:02] put it at the top under versionid [12:02] ok I'll try it [12:02] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:02] it's just so [12:02] already.. [12:03] OSTYPE(`linux')dnl [12:03] wait wait. [12:03] that should be fine, see if it likes it without the quotes [12:03] maybe I find.. [12:04] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [12:04] docan you go on sendmail conf files directory? [12:04] yeah generic-linux.mc i usually start with [12:05] but.. [12:05] can I try douing it with m4 command [12:05] at this pioint? [12:05] sorry for the spelling!! [12:05] m4 ${CFDIR}/m4/cf.m4 config.mc > config.cf [12:06] in the error.. [12:06] it says that it doesn't find a .m4 dir [12:06] but the dir is not with point . [12:07] sorry I don't remember how it's in english :) [12:07] shame on me.. [12:07] no, its in ../m4 [12:07] include(`../m4/cf.m4') [12:07] that's to mne [12:07] nvision (~nvision@g226060084.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [12:07] yeah, so you have to run it from the sendmail/cf/cf directory [12:07] I'm talking of the error output [12:07] i saw [12:08] why there is the point?? [12:08] just include the full path to the cf.m4 [12:08] yes [12:08] .. means parent directory, . means current directory [12:08] yes yes [12:08] /usr/share/eETC/ETC [12:08] artv61tstgood (~joe@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:09] mine is in /usr/src/mail/sendmail/cf/cf [12:11] Destructo (~chatzilla@12.232.59.217) joined ##slackware. [12:12] what distro? [12:12] gentoo? [12:12] slackware [12:12] ???? [12:12] :D [12:12] i just install from source [12:12] hey hey [12:12] I'm joking [12:12] :) [12:12] ok [12:12] no to me it's the usual path.. [12:12] so no wqy.. [12:12] I tried it too.. [12:12] I must the follow the reame rules.. [12:13] but.. did you read the pastebin? [12:13] so from with in the ../cf/cf directory did you run the m4 command? [12:13] to what does that readme refers to? [12:14] its about configuring the location of the config files [12:14] ah ok! [12:16] bash-4.1# m4 sendmail-slackware.mc > /etc/mail/sendmail.cf [12:17] m4:sendmail-slackware.mc:42: cannot open `../mailer/smtp.telecom.it.m4': No such file or directory [12:17] WTF??? [12:17] you missed a part [12:17] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-018.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [12:17] m4 ${CFDIR}/m4/cf.m4 config.mc > config.cf [12:17] ${CFDIR}/m4/cf.m4 [12:17] you missed that part [12:18] If you want to install a new configuration file, do as root [12:18] "m4 linux.mc > /etc/mail/sendmail.cf", where linux.mc is one of the above [12:18] config files or a new one by yourself. [12:18] -.- [12:18] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:18] replace ${CFDIR} with the path to your m4 directory [12:19] you're not preloading the cf.m4 file, so its going to fail until you do [12:19] stu_ (~stuart@175.137.79.189) joined ##slackware. [12:19] ok :) [12:19] bash-4.1# m4 /usr/share/sendmail/cf/m4/cf.m4 sendmail-slackware.mc > /etc/mail/sendmail.cf [12:19] m4:sendmail-slackware.mc:42: cannot open `/usr/share/sendmail/cf/mailer/smtp.telecom.it.m4': No such file or directory [12:19] :( :( :( [12:20] you ad libbed again [12:20] but why it search this impossible dir??? [12:20] mailer doesn't take parameters [12:20] its just `smtp' [12:20] with the bracket? [12:20] you configure the outgoing smtp host in the client [12:20] yes [12:21] MAILER(local)dnl [12:21] but thi? [12:21] it should only be this: MAILER(`smtp')dnl [12:22] there's local too.. [12:22] thats fine [12:22] its not defining the hosts, but the transport mechanism [12:22] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:22] bash-4.1# m4 /usr/share/sendmail/cf/m4/cf.m4 sendmail-slackware.mc > /etc/mail/sendmail.cf [12:22] m4:sendmail-slackware.mc:42: cannot open `/usr/share/sendmail/cf/mailer/smtp.telecom.it.m4': No such file or directory [12:22] no way man! [12:23] you didn't change the m4 file [12:23] er the mc file [12:23] yes i did!! [12:23] its the same error [12:23] MAILER(local)dnl [12:23] there shouldn't be the telecome.it in it [12:23] MAILER(smtp)dnl [12:23] MAILER(`smtp.telecom.it')dnl [12:23] MAILER(procmail)dnl [12:23] Channel flood from brainvision -- kicking [12:23] that's it [12:23] brainvision kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [12:23] no [12:24] i think i see what Zordrak was hiding [12:24] brainvision (~brainvisi@host88-78-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:24] sorry slackboy [12:25] :) [12:25] take out the line with smtp.telecom.it in it [12:26] take out? [12:26] sorry.. [12:26] delete that whole line [12:26] do you mean to cut it? [12:26] yes [12:26] and try without? [12:26] yes, that line is wrong [12:27] I always like making friends first, and then reading [12:27] it's wrong the option? [12:27] yes, thats not a valid option [12:27] slacky2 (~slacky2@81-226-63-190-no179.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [12:27] so from where I can configure my smtp? [12:28] from submit.mc [12:29] DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtps, Name=MSA-SSL, M=Es')dnl [12:30] uff I'm confused! [12:30] you're reading the wrong file [12:30] YES INDEED [12:31] I was looking for a tip [12:31] look in the README at the root of the sendmail files [12:31] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:31] but listen Skywise [12:31] I'm taking a look at the old sendmail.cf fike.. [12:32] yeah you can't hack it that way [12:32] the one who works good only with a restart of the server sendmail.. [12:32] because other parts are changed [12:32] yes but.. [12:32] but its not really working that way [12:32] I want just show you something [12:32] # MAILER(smtp)dnl [12:32] the MAILER options are all the standard ones [12:32] we changed.. [12:33] DSsmtp.telecom.it [12:33] this line.. [12:33] # "Smart" relay host (may be null) [12:33] that is something different! [12:33] even nif we success to build the cf file [12:34] it would be different from the old one! [12:34] theres a mailer:host option [12:34] and probably it would not work! [12:35] dnl define(`SMART_HOST',`mailserver.example.com') [12:35] it's that!! [12:35] isn't it?? [12:35] I think that this is the right option we were looking for! [12:35] i think so [12:35] :D [12:36] let's try!! [12:36] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:37] wow.. [12:37] no error! [12:37] that's the first step :D [12:37] I'll make a diff with the old one now [12:38] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [12:39] FEATURE(`msp', `smtp.host')dnl could work as well [12:39] mmm [12:40] doing a diff result that the previous option is now empty.. [12:40] # "Smart" relay host (may be null) [12:40] DS [12:40] look at sendmail/SECURITY for details on submit.mc [12:40] I don't think it will work so [12:41] eBurke (~tomasz@w32-52.md4.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:41] seeing that KDE only saves my session settings if i logout (instead of direct shutdown), will XFCE do the same? [12:41] sitwon (~adam@pool-173-79-59-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:42] brainvision, do you want all mail or only outgoing mail to go thru your mailhost? [12:43] oh well outgoing mail naturally [12:43] anyway [12:43] sitwon (~adam@pool-173-79-75-124.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:43] with this cf file it doesn't work.. [12:43] uff.. [12:43] smart host should do it [12:43] what happens? [12:43] ??? [12:44] hte option is empèty!! [12:44] doing a diff result that the previous option is now empty.. [12:44] # "Smart" relay host (may be null) [12:44] DS [12:44] that's it!! [12:44] in the new cf file!! [12:44] the option is not the one we thought.. :( [12:47] define(`SMART_HOST', 'smtp:hostname') [12:48] i think thats the option you want [12:48] where is?? [12:48] oh my god a sendmail user [12:48] AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH [12:48] ohhhh yesss! [12:48] omg who forgot to give jeev his meds [12:48] LOL [12:49] sad sendmail [12:49] you should of added that to your .mc file [12:49] really [12:49] but don't start the line with dnl [12:49] yes Skywise i'm trying [12:49] that means end of lne [12:49] ??? [12:49] nvision (~nvision@g226060084.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:49] _marc` (~marc@cl-3044.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:50] so you can put comments after dnl in your .mc file [12:50] dnl means the same as # [12:50] wow!! [12:50] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-018.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:50] dnl mean comment [12:50] are you sure?? [12:50] nvision (~nvision@g226060084.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [12:51] dnl define(`SMART_HOST',`smtp.telecom.it') [12:51] it should be that way in the examples [12:51] no, dnl disables that line [12:51] sitwon (~adam@pool-173-79-75-124.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:51] so this option doesn't means nothing!!!! [12:51] yes [12:51] FUCK!!!! [12:51] i want to ahhhhhhhh!!!!!! [12:51] grrrrrrr!! [12:51] but you also want smtp:smtp.telecom.it [12:51] do you think so? [12:51] ok [12:51] unless you want all protocols to go thru it [12:51] let's try [12:52] no infact [12:52] the internal mail no [12:52] it has no sense! [12:52] that will be local [12:52] ok [12:52] not smtp [12:52] ok ok [12:52] :) [12:52] Destructo (~chatzilla@12.232.59.217) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:53] sitwon (~adam@pool-173-79-74-148.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:56] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:57] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:57] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [12:58] ok it seems to work.. [12:58] :D [12:58] but.. [12:58] oh noes [12:58] I can't send mail to email address [12:58] :D [12:58] no Skywise it's not an end [12:58] I must restart [12:58] before saying all goes [12:58] what happens? [12:58] because it goes before, too [12:59] but then when restarting.. I have to restart the mailer daemon, again [12:59] did you remember? [12:59] that was the problem! [12:59] anyway.. [12:59] a question [13:00] my username for slackware is naturally brainvision [13:00] why if a send mail with mail -s "BLA" brainvision@something.XX [13:00] or elleti.brainvision@somethingelese.xx [13:00] mails are corrected sent [13:00] cfdisk (~cfdisk@unaffiliated/cfdisk) joined ##slackware. [13:01] but if I do the same sending mail to rimba@email.it [13:01] nothing works?? [13:01] it send mails only to email address that have my username inside!!! [13:01] if this is not odd I don't what odd means!! [13:02] i've seen odder [13:02] :D [13:02] but.. [13:02] is email.it the hostname of the machine? [13:02] no no [13:03] does the mx record for email.it point to the machine [13:03] I don't know what do you mean but I think no! [13:03] you have to edit /etc/mail/local_host_names to say what domains are handled locally [13:04] idle` (~idle@2a01:e35:2f43:4b00:20d:f0ff:fe56:8f4) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:04] idle` (~idle@2a01:e35:2f43:4b00:20d:f0ff:fe56:8f4) joined ##slackware. [13:04] try another explanation about what doesn't work [13:04] wait a moemnt please Skywise [13:04] now let's reboot so I can see if all is good [13:05] with this cf file.. [13:05] ok? [13:05] k [13:05] see you soon! [13:05] bad for you!! [13:05] ;) [13:05] brainvision (~brainvisi@host88-78-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3-dev [13:05] Elektro_ (~elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [13:05] Skywise: 14 or something? [13:05] sounds like it [13:06] lol [13:07] i'm giving him back to zordrak [13:07] i just think its a translation issue actually [13:07] ah [13:08] p [13:09] the thing is that he shouldn't even need to do this if he just wants his mail client to use his isp smtp server [13:10] its really more for if you're gonna relay thru another host, and it will prolly need username and password to login to send [13:10] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:12] brainvision (~brainvisi@host88-78-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:12] I can't believe it! [13:12] nothing change!! [13:13] Tsooi (~scruffy@ti0125a380-0697.bb.online.no) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:13] sendmail doesn't work! but 'm sure that if I restart now it daemon it will soon send all the queque mails! [13:13] uff!! [13:13] Skywise: :( [13:14] C.V.D. [13:14] bang! [13:15] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:52] maybe /usr/share/locale ? [13:54] hum.. thanks, jeev [13:55] notKlaatu (~sxe@office.vivisimo.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:59] artv61tstgood (~joe@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [14:00] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.64.35.65) joined ##slackware. [14:00] Axius (~fd@92.84.17.126) joined ##slackware. [14:01] brainvision (~brainvisi@host88-78-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3-dev [14:01] slackin (nickals@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:02] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [14:06] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [14:06] maco (~quassel@ubuntu/member/maco) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:07] Barnabyh (~Barnabyh@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:07] maco (~maco@mackenzie.morgan.name) joined ##slackware. [14:07] maco (~maco@mackenzie.morgan.name) left irc: Changing host [14:07] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) joined ##slackware. [14:07] Hoogin1 (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:09] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:10] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [14:12] eBurke (~tomasz@w32-52.md4.pl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:15] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:17] artaud: there is a command for it, though just not on the top of my head right now. [14:18] artaud: man locale [14:19] skycrash (sky@189.58.122.246.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left ##slackware. [14:19] nvm [14:20] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:20] hah, managed to get slackware installing on my netbook ^.^ [14:20] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:21] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [14:21] where's a will, there's a way :D [14:22] great [14:22] what type netbook? [14:22] Samsung N150 [14:22] hows the keyboard? [14:22] if there is a will .. there is usually a dead body somewhere ;) [14:22] xD [14:22] hey guys o/ =) [14:22] jg71: you mean in terms of typing? [14:22] hi [14:22] Roin: yeah. [14:23] or do you mean shortcuts, i didnt test most of the FN shortcuts yet since it is still installing, but the keyboard itself is very nice, feels very good and is clicky as well [14:23] Roin: hehe nice. Installed slackware 13.1 on kethry's Acer Aspire One 751h \o/ [14:23] does the local shell environment variable CFLAGS get passed when compiling kernel in the normal fashion, or does is it declared elsewhere [14:23] So it has a very good keyboard, the Arrow keys are a bit to small and ö and ü are a bit small as well, the rest of the keys is nearly the size of a real keyboard [14:23] phrag: o/ [14:23] BP{k}: hows it going bud? [14:23] Heya phrag , BP{k} o/ [14:24] phrag: not bad. having new monitors, and new box to build soon. :D [14:24] Axius (~fd@92.84.17.126) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:24] BP{k}: I just wonder how things like battery monitor and stuff like that will work @.@ [14:24] Roin: I am sure it'll work fine .. what graphics chipset does the N150 use? [14:24] intel 3150 [14:24] And an Intel N450 Atom CPU [14:24] BP{k}: exciting! what monitor you going for? i'm saving for a new one i've my eye on.. 22" just doesnt seem that impressive anymore =P [14:25] phrag: LG 3261V .. 23". [14:25] aryr100 (~aryr100@cpe-67-248-210-0.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:26] http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Home/Product/42676/LG-monitor-23--W2361V-Widescreen-monitor-black [14:26] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:26] Roin: lucky. the AO1-751h .. has a Intel GMA500 [14:26] Oh that one isnt as good as the 3150? [14:26] BP{k}: nice, that looks similar to the one i'm after... [14:27] BP{k}: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002DPYQSW [14:27] I'm not to much into hardware since I could never buy any of the real stuff I always just tried to get the stuff which works with Linux (besides since Linux doesnt need much recourses I never realy cared about buying newer hardware) [14:27] phrag: it makes a nice difference from the 14" kethry had, and the 19" i had (both CRTs) [14:28] BP{k}: any particular reason your going for the LG? the samsung p2450 has an extra inch! [14:28] phrag: meh, never said the samsung and the LG was a bit cheaper :) [14:28] for £4.99 more.. five squid for an extra inch! [14:28] =) [14:29] phrag: also deskspace is limited here. [14:29] BP{k}: oh you bought already? [14:29] phrag: yes. [14:29] sorry, i thought you were still considering! [14:29] =P [14:29] phrag: got delivered monday :) [14:29] o0h great phrag is here [14:29] it looks sweet =) [14:30] Action: phrag detects a whiff of sinesism [14:30] nickals (~nickals@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:30] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:30] cynicism* =P [14:30] epic spelling failure [14:30] Roin: yeah, the problem is there are about 10 different models of the AO1, oringally we thoguht this had a different chipset. Ah well I'll get it working eventually. :) [14:30] Action: jeev detected a whiff of poop [14:31] Roin: personally speaking I am not a huge fan of netbooks, the keys re just too darn small to type comfortably on. [14:31] Action: phrag notices jeev [14:31] BP{k}: I got used to the keyboard of the N150 pretty quick, but of course a bigger keyboard is always better. [14:31] What impressed me was that the 10" display feels so big, I always thought I would get some real problems really early with it [14:32] lol [14:32] i kinda wish the keypad was on the right... it gets in my way, i find myself constantly moving the keyboard so it's centrtal to G and J [14:32] too used to my happy hacker [14:33] on my home server i want to add some storage space for HD video, music etc, i plan to buy 6x 1.5TB drives. Would you guys bother using RAID at all? I will own most of the meda what will be going on the disks so i dont have to worry about backup solution [14:33] Ah if its about keyboards I wish I could buy DASkeyboard, but I dont see the point of buying a keyboard for ¬120 lol [14:33] at the risk of repeating myself.. does the local shell env $CFLAGS get used when building a kernel in the normal fashion, or does it have to be declared elsewhere? [14:34] dustybin: if it's replaceable media, dont bother with parity (if thats what your asking) [14:34] why are you optimizing the kernel? [14:34] Roin: I have one :D [14:34] phrag: would you mind repeating that in english :D [14:34] BP{k}: ._. *wants* (the version without printings on the keys?) [14:35] Since thats the version I want, you just dont need to care for what is on the keyboard and can use any layout you like besides qwertz [14:35] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:35] Roin: Yes, it's a Das Keyboard Model II (before they did the "proffessional" version with lettering). [14:35] awesome ._. [14:35] dustybin: do you have the raid card? [14:35] phrag: no [14:35] dustybin: i'd definately go with LVM then [14:35] phrag: no RAID? [14:36] Roin: I do agree with you, it's pretty darn expensive. It was a gift from my parents after I threw together a quick site for them in one evening. ;) But it's an awesome keyboard :D [14:36] if it's performance your after, then RAID0 with a dedicated RAID card [14:36] phrag: the trouble with using LVM, imagine a disk did die, if im using 6 drives im sure one could go at some point, that means i would need to re-rip everything from scratch [14:36] dustybin: if you go for raid, go for raid 6 [14:36] why not RAID 5 for home use? [14:36] dustybin: LVM can stripe parity [14:37] dustybin: it's overkill for replaceable media [14:37] your sacrfising 1/3rd of your capacity [14:37] phrag: all my media will have to be re-ripped, that could take AGES [14:37] BP{k}: Yeah, it is an awesome keyboard, nah when I earn some money of my own I can start thinking about buying it *g* [14:37] i dont mind losing 1x drive [14:37] RAID 5? [14:38] dustybin: LVM can do the same, 1 drive loss recovery.. performance wouldnt be top though [14:38] i didnt know that? LVM can act like RAID? [14:38] aryr100 (~aryr100@cpe-67-248-210-0.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: aryr100 [14:38] yes.. i would also put LVM on top of RAID [14:38] dustybin: you can combine LVM with RAID [14:38] much more flexibale and robust [14:39] dustybin: it's a robust solution. [14:39] =) [14:39] i read that abstraction on top of abstraction is a bad idea? [14:39] dustybin: how so? [14:39] Action: nachox thinks lvm in linux sucks bad [14:39] no no .. "abstration + abstraction == clarity" ;-) [14:39] just read somewhere [14:39] nachox: why? [14:39] dustybin: I have 2xRAID5 arrays, joined by a LVM [14:39] thumbs: soft raid? [14:39] dustybin: hardware RAID [14:40] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:40] thumbs: is this for home use? [14:40] i use LUKS + LVM on *all* my systems [14:40] phrag, because i've seen how it works in aix and solaris and its much more friendly :P [14:40] dustybin: no. [14:40] right ok [14:40] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:40] nachox: ok, then that's a biased opinion =P [14:40] :P [14:40] i already use RAID 1 + LVM for my system drive [14:41] it works nice [14:41] tank V sports car =P [14:41] there is what the read error every 12TB or so. so raid5 is running out of time. [14:41] thumbs: i think soft raid 5 + lvm will be perfect for my needs [14:41] panzer: sorry? [14:42] panzer: your SAN about to glitch? [14:43] phrag: no. the file server I was goign to be would have been 8x2TB drives running on a 3ware raid controller. Raid6 [14:43] neBu (0@neBu.ro) joined ##slackware. [14:43] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:43] neBu kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Using IRC as root is dangerous. Please reference "Using IRC as root" via google for further information. [14:43] hi all [14:43] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:43] lil problem here [14:44] i have some nfs shares on an old slackbox (12.1) [14:44] i want to mount them on a newer slackbox on the lan (this one has 13.1) [14:44] when i try to mount, im getting this [14:44] mount.nfs: requested NFS version or transport protocol is not supported [14:45] ganeshix: you're trying to mount an NFS3 share with NFS4. use NFS3 instead [14:45] (that's a WAG, but a pretty good one) [14:45] Action: jg71 WAGs the dog [14:46] adaptr, you mean i should uninstall the current NFS on my brand new machine and install NFS3 instead? [14:46] ganeshix: use nfsv3 protocol [14:46] ganeshix: no, both are supported. NFS3 is a mount option on NFS4 clients [14:46] isn't there any way to make it downwards compatible [14:47] it is, of course [14:47] oh, i see :_) [14:47] ok [14:47] i'll find the options now [14:48] vbatts_work (~vbatts@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [14:48] 'If you are on a modern system with a good bus and a good CPU it may actually be faster to run software RAID than hardware RAID (unless you buy a really expensive hardware RAID). Even if your CPU isn't the latest it is still likely to perform as well as all but the most expensive hardware RAID controllers.' [14:48] interesting.. [14:49] what is KDE's default pdf viewer again? i'm on xfce and can't find the command [14:50] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:50] okular? [14:53] adaptr, apparently, i cant mount a nfs3 share with nfs4, according to this: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfsv4.bullopensource.org%2Fdoc%2FNFS3_NFS4_migration.pdf&ei=EQY-TPyiNsOclge7_cz4BQ&usg=AFQjCNESR2yFbKNZsB4g90nMNOlkoe6E1w&sig2=bOxEw-QBKkbSmWLSNrHPEQ [14:53] :( [14:55] eh? [14:55] whats wrong with just adding vers=3 to the fstab entry? [14:56] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [14:57] stuart__ (~stuart@175.144.253.177) joined ##slackware. [14:58] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [14:58] jg71, i'll try that [14:59] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [15:00] stu_ (~stuart@175.137.79.189) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:01] idle` (~idle@2a01:e35:2f43:4b00:20d:f0ff:fe56:8f4) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:01] idle` (~idle@2a01:e35:2f43:4b00:20d:f0ff:fe56:8f4) joined ##slackware. [15:02] idle` (~idle@2a01:e35:2f43:4b00:20d:f0ff:fe56:8f4) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:02] i tried the vers options [15:02] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [15:02] they do not work [15:02] idle` (~idle@2a01:e35:2f43:4b00:20d:f0ff:fe56:8f4) joined ##slackware. [15:02] stuart__ (~stuart@175.144.253.177) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:04] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-206.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:04] Action: BiCHiTo buenas [15:04] mdeanda (1000@cpe-75-84-179-19.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:06] ganeshix: ... http://groups.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.slackware/browse_thread/thread/c979c4791dfdd65d [15:06] sahko (~grbzks@ppp089210098153.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:06] sahko (~grbzks@ppp089210098153.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Changing host [15:06] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [15:06] it's not rocket science ;) [15:07] no, it's BRAIN SURGERY! [15:07] Action: adaptr loves mitchell and webb [15:08] mdeanda (1000@cpe-75-84-179-19.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:11] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-206.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:12] dustybin (dustybin@wizbox.org) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [15:14] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-151-207.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:15] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [15:16] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-206.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:20] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-151-207.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:20] idoru (idoru@freenode/utility-bot/ex-server/idoru) left irc: Ping timeout: 600 seconds [15:21] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC01F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: brb [15:22] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. 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[15:31] phrag: ping [15:31] Greetings Programs [15:32] Do You Want To Play A Game? [15:32] I'm sorry Dave [15:32] I cannot do that, Dave. Dave? Are you there, Dave? [15:42] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [15:42] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-176-4-68.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [15:43] I need like 7 people to come .join in #pugbot, you dont have to play this time just need to test the server, PLEASE for me? [15:43] nickals (~nickals@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:43] can someone ban him again? thanks :p [15:44] If I have a free domain, ie myname.freedns.net, how could i make a new subdomain like upload.myname.freedns.net [15:45] samfisher: check with freedns.net [15:46] samfisher: it's up to freedns.net to allow that or not [15:46] oh, i see. thank you guys [15:46] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:46] done [15:47] thumbs: syn_ack [15:48] phrag: I need your stats generator thinghy. [15:50] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:50] thumbs: :-) [15:50] chipster: thanks. [15:50] my pleasure - it's good stuff [15:51] =) [15:51] it's pissin down here.. it's meant to be summer! [15:51] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. [15:52] visit here, its gonna be 38 degrees tomorrow [15:52] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [15:53] it's going to do both, here, apparently [15:56] wait, #slackware doesn't come with lame? [15:56] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:56] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:56] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:57] jeremym (~jeremym@pool-173-53-178-201.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:58] wait, #slackware doesn't come with lame? [15:58] but it comes with cdparanoia [15:58] ? [15:58] wtf! [15:58] #slackware doesnt even exist. its either ##slackware or Slackware [15:58] ##slackware comes with a lot a lame. Slackware doesnt [15:58] err [15:58] sorry [15:59] slackware [15:59] Channel flood from Teratogen -- kicking [15:59] not #slackware [15:59] Teratogen kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [15:59] Teratogen (leontopod@unaffiliated/teratogen) joined ##slackware. [15:59] *sheepish grin* [16:00] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [16:01] I am an idiot. sorry been out in the sun in Arizona [16:01] it cooks the brain [16:03] no it doesnt come with lame [16:03] Slackware 10 did [16:03] I just compiled and installed lame [16:03] I need to configure kaudiocreator to work with it [16:04] Elektro_ (~elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [16:06] http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-betavoltaic-10.1.html [16:06] I wonder why they removed lame from the distro? [16:06] =/ [16:07] lame = lame :) [16:08] bah [16:08] I want mp3 dammit [16:08] not ogg [16:09] Aidar-Nagato (admin@94.41.42.120.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. 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[16:21] There never was a lame in Slackware [16:21] We all walk [16:21] alienBOB: hahaha [16:22] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC01F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [16:22] It never shipped with a mp3 encoder either. Teratogen I guess you have been running a non-Slackware distro in the past if that carried lame [16:23] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC01F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:25] slacks (~tanis@201.22.54.113.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:26] hackeron (~hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. 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[16:55] Elektro_ (~elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:57] I can't get x to start with my new custom kernel, is it possible that I accidentally opted out from something important? [16:57] cause I can start fine with both the huge and the generic ones [16:58] Kernel mode setting perhaps? [16:58] slackerpete (~slackerpe@213.122.218.128) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:58] um, yeah? [16:59] I'm a bit scared to reinstall the nvidia drivers, cause I tried that and I managed to break x for everything that way [17:00] Ah, you use the binary nvidia driver, recompiled your kernel but did not re-install the nvidia kernel module? [17:00] There 's your problem [17:01] yeah I do [17:01] how should I reinstall it? [17:01] just download it and install it the regular way? [17:01] By re-running the install file [17:01] but wouldn't that break it for the other kernels? [17:01] No, the existing other kernel modules will not be removed [17:02] Using commandline options you can tell the installer to unly compile the kernel module and nothing else [17:02] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-jfncbgcjpcocgpmg) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:03] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-186.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:04] I reinstalled it with nvidia-installer --update, could I do that again? [17:04] and what options are you talking about?= [17:05] man nvidia-installer(1) [17:08] okay, I think I might have found something [17:08] thx [17:09] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:09] Delahunt (~robert@72.183.117.4) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:12] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:12] waximum (~waximum@h95-155-239-237.dynamic.se.alltele.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:14] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:17] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [17:17] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:20] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. 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[18:02] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424728.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:02] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.95.226.226) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:03] _marc` (~marc@cl-3044.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:08] phe (1000@AToulouse-258-1-74-73.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:10] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-68-232.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:10] i have a prob with fb modules [18:10] well, snd and fb [18:10] nvid is usable here [18:11] snd was working swimmingly but no more; alsamixer is max and still nothing [18:12] spkr vol is maxed; mplayer snd is maxed [18:12] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-96-133.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [18:12] can i get a clue[s]/ [18:12] something muted? [18:12] nop [18:13] intel? [18:13] nvid [18:13] it was working this morn [18:13] i havent chgd any libs [18:13] Try to use complete words SunTzu... it makes you look better [18:13] nothing installed anew today [18:13] i.can.try [18:13] :) [18:14] i'm stumped [18:14] lf4 (~KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:15] some browser bats are still producing snd tho [18:15] lf4 (~KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) joined ##slackware. [18:15] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [18:16] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:20] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424728.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:21] artv61tstgood (~joe@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:22] zero7 (~crazy@89.211.97.124) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:22] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:23] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-68-232.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [18:26] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:26] slackie_ (~x@cb-217-129-169-46.netvisao.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:28] taopunk_m (~taopunk@166.137.15.36) joined ##slackware. [18:28] Entulho (~foo@189.75.5.234) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:28] Entulho (~foo@187.52.145.253) joined ##slackware. [18:29] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [18:29] taopunk_m (~taopunk@166.137.15.36) left irc: Client Quit [18:34] artv61tstgood (~joe@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [18:36] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:37] uhm, what is the cd player on slackware? [18:38] I am looking in the multimedia menu and I don't see anything that looks like a cd player [18:38] mplayer is one [18:38] oooooooooooh let me try it! [18:38] =) [18:38] the uri is like so: mplayer cd:// # if you invoke it from command line [18:39] how do I open a cd with it? [18:39] I have the cd in the cd drvie [18:39] err [18:39] I have the cd in the cd drive [18:40] and I invoked mplayer from the menu [18:40] but it says "no media" [18:40] shouldn't it detect the cd in the cd drive? [18:40] hmm, i'd think it'd at least play [18:40] or amarok i guess [18:40] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-96-133.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:40] ooooooooooooh let me ry amarok [18:41] trhodes you think when I put the cd in the cd drive that something should pop up that should play it? [18:41] that's not happening =( [18:41] depends on the DE [18:41] workbone will also work from command line [18:42] personally, cli players are all I use :/ so that's really all i'm any help with [18:42] maybe cat /dev/sr0 > /dev/pcm too :P [18:42] haha [18:42] or dsp, I can't remember ; p [18:42] workbone? [18:42] dsp if you're using alsa with oss emulation (or oss) [18:43] yep, workbone is an old command line cd player [18:43] comes with slack [18:43] I can't remember: I even took out my *laptop*'s cd/dvd drive out [18:43] now there is a big hole in my lappy... [18:43] hey cool [18:43] workbone works [18:43] mine too :P [18:43] that was so simple [18:43] cd player just ate battery when I bumped the drive button [18:44] why does it have to be so hard in gui? [18:44] why can't there be a "KDE CD Player" [18:44] ? [18:44] instead I get a whole bunch of media players with no clue which ones can play CDs [18:45] I guess I should just rip them all to ogg or mp3 [18:45] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.64.35.65) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [18:46] Teratogen: ksCD? [18:46] Teratogen, maybe you must be in storage group or something else to mount drives? [18:47] cdrom sorry [18:47] thumbs: kscd isnt part of Slackware cause it needs musicbrainz to build. at least thats the case in 4.3.x series. didnt bother lately [18:47] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [18:47] yeah, under slackware 10 when I popped a cd in the drive a menu of options popped up [18:47] night all [18:47] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [18:48] for some reason in slackware 13 / kde 4.4.3 nothing pops up [18:48] maybe I am doing something wrong [18:48] hi , who could help me , I know there are wise people and I shouldn;t waste your time but I spend a few hours and still nothing [18:49] paul424: considering you haven't stated the problem, nobody can answer that [18:49] leontopod@intertwingled:/usr/bin$ kscd [18:49] bash: kscd: command not found [18:50] Teratogen: wait, that's on a 12.2 box [18:50] http://codepaste.net/u8oppy I try to configure TwinView ... almost everything is fine , but the first - crt monitor doesn't start at proper refresh rate [18:50] oh, also, it's mplayer cdda:// or mplayer cddb:// (not cd:// like I said earlier) [18:51] yes workbone doesn't have a mixer =/ [18:51] Teratogen: xmms is a good cd player [18:51] xmms plays cds? [18:51] I mean the OSD info says unknown mode or something [18:51] wait [18:51] xmms plays CDs?????? [18:51] afaik, yes [18:51] do I have to mount the cd first? [18:51] not if it's audio cd [18:51] Teratogen: amarok? [18:51] ok this is all great [18:51] but [18:51] in xmms or amarok [18:51] like [18:52] how do I access the CD? [18:52] Teratogen: engage -> play audio cd [18:52] in amarok? [18:53] Teratogen: yes, in KDE 3.5.x [18:53] especially can I use defined mode in the metamodes section ? [18:53] I am in KDE 4.4.3 on slack 13 thumbs [18:53] Teratogen: with xmms, you have go into the preferences and configure the cd input plugin... for your cd player /dev/sr0 or whatever device, and set a cd directory like ~/xmms-cd then put cd into drive and run "xmms -e ~/xmms-cd" [18:54] ok cool [18:55] I got it working in amarok [18:55] does amarok have a mixer? [18:55] err [18:55] equalizer I mean [18:55] it has an equalizer. [18:56] ah, cool [18:56] amarok is it [18:56] thanks [18:56] but... when you pop in a cd, didn't KDE used to pop up a menu of options? [18:56] it doesn't any more [18:57] at least KDE 4.4.3 [18:57] am I doing something wrong? [18:57] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:57] Teratogen: the last KDE I used was 3.5.x, sorry. [18:57] Teratogen: and I've switched to xfce a long time ago. [18:58] ok [18:58] thanks [18:58] when I put a cd/dvd into my drive, yes KDE would pop up a thing to let me select what I want to do with the disc, but that causing me some problems I think when burning cd/dvds (HAL was polling the drive, I think if it polls at the wrong moment during a burn, it failed the burn)... [18:58] I will ask on kde [18:58] but amarok is working fine, thanks thumbs [18:58] I used hal-disable-polling command to make it stop [18:59] hmm - I've got kde from slackware13.1 and don't seem to have that issue [18:59] without disabling hal [18:59] foobarz: disabling this feature also saves power. [18:59] help me [19:00] am0rphis (~qwe@79.124.218.28) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:00] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:01] am0rphis (~qwe@91.145.222.112) joined ##slackware. [19:02] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [19:04] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:04] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [19:06] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [19:07] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[19:32] stokachu (~phuk@cpe-173-095-175-246.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: EPIC5-1.1.2[1638] - amnesiac : If it ain't broken, break it. [19:33] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:34] nvision (~nvision@g226060084.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:35] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [19:36] KDE things my monitor refresh rate is 50Hz, but my monitor and nvidia-settings says it is at 60Hz. [19:39] http://codepaste.net/u8oppy I try to configure TwinView ... almost everything is fine , but the first - crt monitor doesn't start at proper refresh rate [19:45] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [19:46] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.118.4) joined ##slackware. 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[19:56] am0rphis (~qwe@91.145.251.167) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:57] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [19:59] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [19:59] skycrash (~sky@187.59.94.106) joined ##slackware. [19:59] you haven't this problem? [19:59] \o hi slackers [20:00] hey please help me [20:00] http://codepaste.net/u8oppy I try to configure TwinView ... almost everything is fine , but the first - crt monitor doesn't start at proper refresh rate [20:01] nader: "slow" is a rather subjective term that really doesn't tell us much. [20:04] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-53-43.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [20:06] BP{k}: I mean when scroll down with center buttom in xpdf is slow to me [20:06] others pdf apps are good [20:10] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [20:11] another problem, when I left click in TWM and exit it doesn't work and hangs... must exit manually in login to leave... have u this problem? [20:11] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:13] amarok used sqlite in the past? wth did they switch to mysql? [20:15] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.118.4) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [20:15] am0rphis (~qwe@91.145.228.51) joined ##slackware. [20:16] Kernel-Panic (~root@71-218-39-175.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:18] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.223.55) joined ##slackware. [20:20] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-1-103.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[20:29] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [20:31] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.96.182) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [20:32] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.77.108) joined ##slackware. [20:34] has the moon being full for 3 weeks now? [20:35] been* [20:41] isn't that one of the signs of the apocalypse or something? [20:42] shonudo: 2012 [20:43] mnunes (~mnunes@187.13.220.238) joined ##slackware. [20:44] alguem aqui ja compilou o gcc 4.5? [20:44] mnunes: nao [20:45] mnunes: eu pelo menos nao rsrs [20:45] skycrash, rapaz e pq esta dando um erro doido na hora de compilar rapaiz [20:45] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@200.204.235.32) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [20:46] mnunes: qual slack vc usa ? [20:46] Okay, I left this thing idling a few days in both #slackhappy and here. I'm not aware of the past and the politics, but things are looking strange. I thought #slackhappy was a place for new users to get help, but the channel seems pretty small now. [20:47] Also, I see people being banned from there for no apparent reason. [20:47] lol [20:47] Is this the channel I should be in, or #slackhappy? [20:47] auro: this one. [20:47] Action: NyteOwl never heard of #slackhappy [20:47] I believe that's known as Chris Punches stomping grounds [20:47] auro: I got banned too, for no reason. [20:47] (as a new user sometimes needing help) [20:48] and I've been coming here a loooong time [20:48] auro: there are far more competent helpers in here. [20:48] thumbs, I saw that, and that is the reason I'm asking. [20:48] skycrash, nenhum ^^ estou tentando o LFS [20:48] auro: he dislikes me, for some reason. [20:48] auro: in any case, did you have something we can help you with? [20:49] mnunes: oq eh LFS? [20:49] mnunes: if you want to talk portuguese try #slackware-br or send a pm to skycrash . if he allows that [20:49] At the moment I'm okay, but only because I've been away from the computer a few days. :) [20:49] przemoc (~przemoc@chello089072164150.chello.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:49] linux from scratch [20:50] auro: and for the record, I don't think #slackhappy contains many *real* users. [20:50] sahko: ;-) [20:50] I did have a few noob questions a few days ago, and I asked in both places. I tended to get better help here. [20:50] thumbs, so why was it created? I thought it was to help new users. [20:50] Kernel-Panic (~root@71-218-39-175.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [20:50] przemoc (~przemoc@chello089072164150.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [20:51] auro: no, because Chris got banned from here (rightfully), and is seeking vengeance. [20:51] it was created because Chris Punches wanted a channel that he wasn't getting banned from [20:51] sahko, sorry man! [20:52] mnunes: no problem [20:52] I think the issues between here and #slackhappy really have no place here to be honeset [20:52] Dominian: you're right [20:52] Kernel-Panic (~root@71-218-10-103.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:52] thumbs, Chris is who, bagira? [20:53] oh yes I remember that now [20:53] Who cares? [20:53] The politics between #slackhappy and here hav eno place here. [20:53] Unless there are other motives involved with your questions. [20:53] If not, I suggest keeping it strictly to Slackware-related questions and topics [20:54] and noobfarm [20:54] puffy (puffy@cpe-204-210-143-71.hvc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:54] exactly! [20:55] soon to be with 100% more angus ground beef [20:55] Linux is for bitches and dumb ones at that. *BSD is the way so pick one : OpenBSD or FreeBSD [20:55] once Dominian figures out where his asshole is [20:55] OpenBSD blackhole.hvc.rr.com 4.7 GENERIC#558 i386 [20:55] noobfarm.com is great. its a bunch of noob farmers growing mushrooms and stuff [20:56] w 18 [20:56] Kernel-Panic (~root@71-218-10-103.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [20:56] sahko you are too high drugs to notice how crappy the code quality of linuxx is [20:56] linux is crap [20:56] lol [20:57] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [20:57] puffy (puffy@cpe-204-210-143-71.hvc.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:57] good times :) [20:57] well known troll [20:57] Dominian, I first started here a few days ago, and I was led to believe that #slackhappy was a sort of official place for support. I needed clarification. [20:57] Yeah, I haven't seen that bad of trolling since.... yesterday [20:58] auro: You've been on freenode for at least a week [20:58] Sorry, but I thought it was a fair question. [20:58] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.81.56) joined ##slackware. [20:58] yeah a week or so ... not had much time for computer stuff though, I am a real estate agent. [20:59] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:59] Kernel-Panic (~root@71-218-29-148.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:59] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:00] I'm certainly not trying to troll anybody, ananke, I hope you did not mean me. [21:00] robert__ (~robert@187.137.158.221) joined ##slackware. [21:00] I believe he was talking about puffy [21:00] Hello, my HT Omega sound card wont work with dts 5.1 [21:00] only analog , i am wondering why [21:00] auro: I don't think its the question. Its the circumstances and the conversational topic that are odd. [21:01] robert__: did you run alsaconf, then alsamixer? [21:01] yes. [21:02] i have logitech z5500 digital sound system, and only direct 96 khz work [21:02] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:02] optical digital won't work. [21:03] have you checked with the guys in #alsa yet? [21:03] " newbieslacker, we're the unofficial unofficial transient Slackware channel on freenode." " well, we'll eventually be managing the main slackware channel on this network" [21:04] I see [21:04] auro: i thought we asked you to drop that? [21:04] auro: I would suggest, that if you do want to continue this line of conversation, that you PM me. [21:04] thumbs: he brings up an interesting point with that last post though [21:05] alphageek (rooot@76-10-164-30.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:05] Still, not subject matter. [21:05] Seems topical to me, but I can /quit. [21:05] auro (~auro@unaffiliated/auro) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:05] I am also trying to install flash for mozilla but for some reason [21:05] Action: Dominian shakes his head [21:05] it won't load the addon [21:05] alisonken1home: that was blatant [21:05] betageek (rooot@76-10-164-30.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:05] yep [21:05] Well, we know another nick to add [21:06] robert__: did you try the slackbuild.org flashplugin? [21:06] no [21:06] what version of slackware are you using [21:07] zero7 (~crazy@78.101.126.16) joined ##slackware. [21:07] 13.0 [21:07] I might suggest you install sbopkg and use that to search for the flashplugin [21:07] works wonders [21:08] sbopkg uses the same interface that pkgtool uses [21:09] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@200.204.235.32) joined ##slackware. [21:09] robert__: unpack the flash tar from adobe to /home/user/.mozilla/plugins/ [21:10] i tried downloading the flash version from adobe [21:10] i gues your the only user... [21:10] should i do mv plugin /home/user/.mozilla/plugins/ [21:10] ? [21:11] robert__: if you use sbopkg, it will download the plugin from adobe and install it in system directory for every one to use - be warned, although the md5sum doesn't match, adobe changed but it's still ok [21:11] or mv libflashplugin.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins [21:11] robert__: /usr/lib(64)/mozilla/plugins [21:11] ohhh ok [21:11] robert__: are you using slack64? [21:12] yea [21:12] then its better not using the flashplugin at all [21:12] /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins [21:12] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-224-251.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [21:12] robert__: do you have an authorized permission to do such move from one place to another? :) [21:12] if you plan on using 32-bit programs (like skype), then it won;t work [21:12] sahko hi! :) [21:13] mnunes (~mnunes@187.13.220.238) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:13] heya people. Any dns software that already implementing dnscurve ? [21:13] and hulu.com doesn't like the 64-bit flash on linux [21:13] hi pupit :) [21:13] so be prepared for some funny sites [21:13] mv: cannot move `libflashplayer.so' to `/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins': No such file or directory [21:14] robert__: yeah, try what jgeboski said [21:14] robert__: first - are you root? second - if it's the 64-bit flash, it goes to /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins [21:14] yes i am root. [21:14] and it's the 64 bit [21:14] you missed the lib64 part :) [21:14] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:15] mv libflashplayer.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/. [21:15] alisonken1home: ah you were faster, was typing it... [21:15] :) [21:15] ;) [21:16] Orlov (~richard@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Simples! [21:16] mv: cannot overwrite non-directory `/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/./libflashplayer.so' with directory `libflashplayer.so' [21:16] then restart firefox [21:16] nordwind (~nordwind@217.8.236.156) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:17] robert__: create directory "plugins", if there is no plugins dir [21:18] Good night for all slackers \o [21:18] ok [21:18] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: œ¿»Î½ »±²­ [21:18] skycrash: gnight [21:18] skycrash (sky@187.59.94.106) left ##slackware. [21:18] Orlov (~richard@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:19] so, anyone here has those awesome vuvuzelas? :D [21:20] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] libflashplayer.so is in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/ [21:21] yea, mine is activated after i eat some beans or vegetables [21:21] folder but for some reason. it wont load it up [21:21] @ mozilla [21:21] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Quit: Usar Linux amacia o cabelo [21:22] robert__: shut down the ff [21:23] i did [21:23] and restart it [21:24] robert__: type "file /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so" [21:24] /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped [21:25] Barnabyh (~Barnabyh@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Disconnecting... [21:25] ok - if you're running slack64, then the 32-bit flashplugin (which the 80386 shows) won't work [21:25] robert__: try moving it to /home/user/.mozilla/plugins/. [21:26] robert__: in firefox go to the location: about:plugins [21:26] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [21:26] see if it shows up in there [21:26] jgeboski: he's using slack64 and he has a 32-bit flashplugin [21:26] pupit: ^^ [21:27] alisonken1home: oops skipped over that. [21:27] i think that might be the problem :p [21:27] me too, sorry [21:27] alphageek (rooot@206-248-153-113.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [21:28] betageek (rooot@206-248-153-113.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [21:28] robert__: du hast to download zee 64bit verzion of da flash plugina [21:29] robert__: delete the flashplugin that you have, then get sbopkg ( http://www.sbopkg.org/ ) [21:30] that will help you get the correct plugin via slackbuilds.org [21:30] I don't suppose there's a non-intrusive way of running pulseaudio on Slackware? [21:30] nope [21:30] last I checked it's either pulseaudio or alsa - not sure if they mix or not [21:30] Hmpf [21:30] Wanted to try the Spotify client. [21:31] I guess that's not going to happen soon. [21:31] Mix fine [21:31] At least, not on Slackware %) [21:33] GrooveDroid: Get GSB, it has pulse :P [21:36] alphageek, betageek, what's next, gammageek? Good thing you're a geek and not a mute! ;) [21:37] Ahh yes, I'll just install the whole of Gnome for a single app :D [21:37] Action: john_dee feels badass recommendig GSB for pulseaudio :D [21:37] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-224-251.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [21:38] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:39] Teratogen (leontopod@unaffiliated/teratogen) left irc: Quit: Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer [21:40] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.81.56) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:42] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:43] thanks guys i got [21:43] flash installed [21:43] and working? [21:44] am0rphis (~qwe@91.145.196.252) joined ##slackware. [21:45] ViN86 (~ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FIVE-THIRTY-SIX.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [21:45] yep [21:46] just need to get my sound card to work [21:46] with digital output [21:46] instead of direc 6 channel [21:46] direct * [21:47] how i can drop injected RST packets ? http://pastebin.ru/313607 [21:47] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [21:52] Delahunt (~robert@72.183.117.4) joined ##slackware. [21:55] goj (~goj@p5488FCE7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:56] why can't i access [21:56] my external drive [21:56] i get an access denied error [21:56] robert__: are you trying to mount it or? [21:56] robert__: one second .. let me consult the oracle... [21:57] BP{k}: 12 thousand dollars and an enormous server please [21:57] ah .... you're doing something wrong... [21:57] mwalling: you are not the oracle! [21:57] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:57] i work with one of his friends though [21:57] i am using dolphin file manager [21:57] to open it up [21:58] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [21:58] is your user in any group? [21:59] i dont think so [21:59] it does open with root [21:59] but not with regular user [21:59] maybe permissions [21:59] slacks (~tanis@201.22.54.113.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:59] |Slacker| (~tanis@201.22.54.113.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:00] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [22:00] robert__: what device is it? [22:00] /dev/sda? ? [22:01] robert__, can you run "groups" ? [22:01] it's a external [22:01] wow new jre [22:01] usb drive [22:01] bash-3.1# groups [22:01] root bin daemon sys adm disk wheel floppy audio video cdrom tape plugdev power netdev scanner [22:01] not as root of course [22:01] asarch (~asarch@189.188.141.209) joined ##slackware. [22:02] run it as your regular user [22:02] sh-3.1$ groups [22:02] robert floppy audio video cdrom [22:02] thrice`: curious what the ownership of the drive is [22:02] thrice`: root.disk I'm guessing [22:02] robert is my username [22:03] you can 'grep robert /etc/group' for that if you want, but I'd guess it's the same (don't pastebin that here) [22:03] robert__, find the partition, and run "ls -l" on it (eg, ls -l /dev/sdb1) [22:04] actually, if it's usb, don't bother [22:04] robert__, run "gpasswd -a robert plugdev" and logout completely (X and your user) and log back in [22:05] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.77.108) left irc: Quit: figabo has no reason [22:08] robert__ (~robert@187.137.158.221) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:09] robert__ (~robert@187.137.158.221) joined ##slackware. [22:09] hello i am back [22:09] i still get the same error message. [22:10] ok, pastebin "grep robert /etc/group' [22:11] how to change nouveau resolution? [22:12] asarch (~asarch@189.188.141.209) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:13] nader, that should use xrandr2 code I think? http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 check out the 'configuration via xorg.conf' section [22:13] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [22:13] in console [22:13] console using KMS? [22:14] yes [22:14] i'd like to hear this too [22:14] i'm having a bit of the same problem with the radeon kms driver as well [22:15] ah; well, I don't think you can change resolution that KMS provides :( [22:18] the guy who leaked the video of the choppers gunning those iraqi's got sentenced, how gay [22:20] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:20] hm, maybe video= in lilo.conf will work? eg, video=LVDS-1:1024x768 [22:21] arenics (1000@unaffiliated/arenics) joined ##slackware. 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[23:24] I concur [23:25] Also, OpenOffice, from what I hear, did a fairly good job of mimicking MS formats [23:25] yes [23:25] davimint, openoffice packs from : http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/13.1 [23:25] davimint: spreadsheet or complicated workbook with charts, formulas, and macros? [23:26] woh3 (~will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:27] yes, disaster last time I tried but did not use openoffice.. maybe that is the trick, off to robby's site, thanks [23:27] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [23:28] woh3 (~will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [23:30] google docs limits how many tabs/pages unless you buy the corporate plan - so OOo would be a better way to go - and save as .xls for compatibility [23:32] alisonken1home, thanks for the extention info [23:33] davimint: np [23:34] nachox (~Ignacio@9-99-235-201.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:34] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [23:35] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) joined ##slackware. [23:35] Delahunt (~robert@72.183.117.4) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:36] Grifulkin (~Ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:38] acidtripper (~gon@190.188.115.210) joined ##slackware. [23:38] !Topic [23:38] hi there! [23:40] hey there! [23:40] Entulho (~foo@187.52.145.253) joined ##slackware. [23:42] Action: byteframe needs a UPS [23:42] Kernel-Panic (~root@71-218-29-148.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:42] maginot (~maginot@pdpc/supporter/active/maginot) left irc: Quit: Saindo [23:42] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:43] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) joined ##slackware. [23:43] Kernel-Panic (~root@71-218-31-73.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [23:43] ViN86 (~ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FIVE-THIRTY-SIX.MIT.EDU) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:43] betageek (rooot@69-196-168-2.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [23:44] davimint (~david@c-76-123-145-214.hsd1.ms.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:44] alphageek (rooot@69-196-168-2.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [23:44] heya,folks [23:45] Hi. [23:45] heya, byteframe [23:46] Entulho (~foo@187.52.145.253) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:48] betageek (rooot@69-196-168-2.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:49] alphageek (rooot@69-196-168-2.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [23:50] If mi hermano blows the circuit breaker again, I'm gonna freak. [23:52] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:53] someone there can give me a hand with mysql [23:53] im having some problems to connect to a db [23:53] By command line, or perhaps php? [23:53] also, did you authorize your host to mysql server? [23:53] i can access to it via phpmyadmin [23:54] and add tables, etc [23:54] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [23:54] but then when i try to enter via abanq ( a stock control program) i cant [23:54] " cant connect to mysql server on localhost [23:55] check your sql syntax, as well as making sure your stock program is using the right localhost mysql user/password [23:55] and when i acces via command line (mysql -u root) there isn't any problem [23:55] is using the same as phpmyadmin [23:55] and $mysql [23:55] is your stock program using the right libs? [23:55] is set to mysql [23:56] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [23:57] might want to check with the #mysql guys [23:57] http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/133/snapshot1wk.png [23:57] this is the rror [23:58] and your webserver is connecting to localhost? [23:59] asarch (~asarch@189.188.141.209) joined ##slackware. [23:59] Where is Xen? [23:59] yea [23:59] apache it's working [23:59] asarch: explain? [23:59] Is there any Xen kernel for Slackware? [00:00] --- Thu Jul 15 2010