[00:00] nyRednek, oh that wouldn't bother me.....is it the sound that is offensive?? [00:00] nyRednek, yeah.. but then i finally managed to satisfy them all... :-) now that i am missing some video effects, i decided to try out frei0r [00:00] ki2azy: that too [00:01] njathan: look on the site? [00:02] nyRednek, if so i might have to hook my tweeters up and turn my car stereo up to 62 down the busy streets. [00:02] ki2azy: what, a recording of my joke book? that'll get you shot, even in your little town [00:03] nyRednek, do you think i'd do it here? i'd go to somewhere else. [00:04] ki2azy: you'd get strung up in pine bluff [00:04] BP{k} tks and it`s good that slack there are people with your position, to the others good night too [00:04] anotherone (~root@201-75-115-76-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:05] nyRednek, i don't even worry about pine bluff... i have never lost nothing there. [00:05] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:05] ki2azy: yeah, you keep going down around hope, instead of monroe [00:06] nyRednek, yeah i do hit hope up every week or 2 [00:07] ki2azy: the business is better in monroe [00:07] nyRednek, its about as boring as monticello is. [00:07] ki2azy: monroe isn't *that* ba [00:07] bad [00:07] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [00:07] ki2azy: you can always make a run to bossier if you want excitement [00:08] nyRednek, i should go to monroe sometime....never been there before. [00:08] ki2azy: it's like little rock, but with more cajun in it [00:09] nyRednek, fun!! [00:09] ki2azy: and more cajun girls, too [00:09] ki2azy: if you know what i mean [00:09] nyRednek, :)!!! [00:11] ki2azy: on the other hand, here, cajun is one of the few things you *don't* see [00:11] nyRednek, i seen alot in nebraska. [00:12] ki2azy: yeah, but you don't see them in new york [00:12] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:13] nyRednek, only reason i seen them there is cause 90% of the people i seen in nebraska was from the south [00:13] ki2azy: you know, there are mainly two things to do in nebraska [00:13] ki2azy: so it would be familiar to our culture [00:13] nyRednek, one is watch corn grow. [00:14] ki2azy: farm and drink...drink and farm [00:15] nyRednek, yeah and i don't farm or drink so i am out of place there. [00:15] ki2azy: GTFO...you may not *farm* but you *do* drink [00:15] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [00:16] nyRednek, yeah i do drink.. tea and dr. pepper. [00:16] j0z_ (unix@201.47.31.149.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:16] j0z_ (unix@201.47.31.149.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [00:16] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [00:16] ki2azy: and rum, whiskey, tequila, brandy [00:16] what's the other thing to do in Nebraska...? [00:17] danc3: farm, drink, that's it [00:17] danc3: i used to work out of omaha [00:17] no, ki2azy said "one is to watch corn grow..." what's the other? [00:17] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:17] danc3: drink moonshine made from that corn [00:18] danc3, i have no idea. when i was there i worked too much to find anything else to do. [00:18] heh [00:18] when i drove in, i was in a hurry to get out [00:18] oh, looking back now I see it was nyRednek who said that... ok cool [00:18] I've passed thru NE a few times, as fast as possible. [00:19] nyRednek, yeah they had a big distill plant across the street from where i worked [00:19] danc3: for about 2 months, i drove the faggot blue truck [00:19] ki2azy: see? proves my point [00:19] the faggot blue truck? WTF is that? [00:19] danc3: werner enterprises [00:20] ok...... that doesn't clear it up too much.... [00:20] danc3: their signature color is a blue that reminds you of drag shows [00:20] danc3: and they paint almost *all* of their trucks that color [00:20] nyRednek, it was an ethanol plant though. [00:20] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.227.199) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:21] danc3: almost as bad as schneider and their fsck'ing orange [00:21] orange trucks never bothered me much. who cares what color it is? [00:21] danc3: the guy driving it [00:21] heh [00:22] nyRednek, i was typing that... [00:22] danc3: on top of that, werner has those electronic logs...you lose *days* having to run legal [00:23] hba (~hba@189.130.33.133) joined ##slackware. [00:24] hmm i see the lights going off tonight. [00:24] ki2azy: you have battery backup, why do you care? [00:24] nyRednek, not for the router :( [00:24] ki2azy: true [00:24] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:25] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [00:25] nyRednek, get my inverter back from jacki and then i will :) [00:26] ki2azy: why did you let her keep it? [00:26] nyRednek, too lazy to take it out her car [00:26] ki2azy: that's on you, bro [00:26] nyRednek, i know [00:27] stephen_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-102-175.consolidated.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [00:27] ki2azy: i got a 1200 watt inverter sitting here [00:27] nyRednek, besides its getting ready to die anyways [00:27] ki2azy: come get it [00:27] nyRednek, you know how much gas that would be? [00:27] ki2azy: four tanks each way [00:28] nyRednek, about how many miles is it? [00:28] 1299 [00:28] 1200, even [00:29] and that's avoiding tolls...only toll you'll have to pay coming in: outerbridge crossing...going out: leaving jersey [00:29] ceuuuuff (ad4d721e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.77.114.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [00:29] nyRednek, well with a car that gets about the same milage mine does it took 1 1/2 tank for 860miles [00:29] outerbridge is $8, leaving jersey is $0.50 [00:29] nyRednek: I was on the phone so I just got your message. [00:29] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:29] popl: no biggie [00:30] cocabird (ad4d721e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.77.114.30) joined ##slackware. [00:30] anyone know hwo to solve this issue with timidity? http://vpaste.net/aKqdP . No sound is produced. [00:30] each toll is one way [00:31] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:31] nyRednek, omg this is shocking...i have not got a message in hours asking me what i was doing.. [00:32] ki2azy: maybe jackie found her toy? [00:32] come on guys [00:32] :P [00:32] popl: what? [00:32] nyRednek, jacki is not the one doing this [00:32] ki2azy: mom? [00:32] ki2azy: or that annoying girl off of main? [00:33] nyRednek, second one. [00:33] hiptobecubic: which soundfonts are you using? freepats? [00:33] ki2azy: you know how to get her off your back... [00:33] MLanden, probably nothing? where do i get them [00:33] kickback (~kickback@122.163.207.185) joined ##slackware. [00:33] nyRednek, tell her to bend over? [00:33] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [00:33] ki2azy: just toss her over the kitchen table, that's sufficient [00:33] way to crash the party MLanden [00:33] nyRednek, knowing her she would do it [00:34] ki2azy: yeah...need a whip? [00:34] Action: popl closes the soundfont tabs in Firefox [00:34] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.87.104) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:34] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Quit: There had better be some beer left when I get back! [00:34] nyRednek, nah i got handcuffs. [00:35] ... [00:35] ki2azy: handcuffs are a start, but you really need something to bring the pain [00:35] ki2azy: and the donkey isn't cool [00:35] popl: lol...sorry..;*) [00:35] MLanden: uh huh. ;) [00:36] nyRednek, i got that covered too [00:36] ki2azy: go to wal-mart and put together that spanker, if you haven't already [00:36] hiptobecubic: check slackbuilds [00:37] nyRednek, what would be better the 5hp or the 20hp one? [00:37] ok, so the increase/decrease brightness buttons on my laptop work for only like 5 minutes after i start my laptop. after that, they suddenly stop working. any clues what could be causing the problem? [00:37] ki2azy: the 20hp would kill a girl...5hp [00:37] hiptobecubic: you might want to start reading README files too [00:38] hiptobecubic: the README file for the timidity package specifies that you need "instrument patch files" to make any noise [00:38] kickback: aliens? [00:38] nyRednek, yeah the 20hp one has not been tested yet. [00:39] kickback: do you do anything specific five minutes into using your machine? [00:39] arfon (~arfon@adsl-75-54-85-86.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:39] popl, MLanden not sure how i missed that. must have been skimming for dependencies. downloading freepats now [00:39] popl: not really, they work fine, but suddenly stop working [00:39] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:39] I need to add phpmailer... what directory is the most correct directory to put the class.phpmailer.php ? [00:40] I doubt it kickback. Something must be happening somewhere or else the state would not change. [00:40] nothing to do with any apps im opening [00:40] kickback: this is in X? [00:40] kickback, how do you know? [00:41] hiptobecubic: because i only open a browser, vim and xchat. they work fine generally, but suddenly stop working [00:41] kickback: what's the model? any other acpi hangups? [00:41] trim (~ghostass@122-124-128-153.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [00:41] MLanden: a lenovo Y410. no other problems. all other mmultimedia buttons work [00:41] popl: yeah, i'm using fluxbox [00:41] kickback: you should boot to runlevel 3 and see if you have any problems [00:42] ok lemme check [00:42] just to make sure it's not an X thing [00:42] popl: but it does work on X [00:42] just that it suddenly stops working [00:42] but it also stops working in X [00:43] ok, so i should go to runlevel 3 and then do startx? [00:44] no you should mess around in console for awhile and see if the functionality of your brightness buttons go away [00:44] hmm ok [00:44] maybe login to another vc and watch /var/log/messages [00:45] I'm just going to stop installing perl packages via slackbuilds.org and use cpan exclusively :P [00:45] ok [00:46] cpan is like a recycling station [00:46] ki2azy: i'm going to bed [00:46] trim: How? [00:47] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-177-150.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [00:47] nyRednek: don't die from sleep apnea or anything [00:47] nyRednek, me too soon [00:47] perl is interesting and special. it's trend to do all things in its own ways [00:47] SADS [00:47] popl: if i could be so lucky [00:47] sudden adult death syndrome [00:47] hm, i just noticed this in /var/log/messages "ACPI group battery / action BAT1 is not defined" [00:47] such as installations [00:48] nyRednek: maybe if you started sleeping in a crib [00:48] thats about the time the buttons stopped working [00:48] the crib death fairy might see it as an invitation [00:48] ;P [00:49] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-186-245-111.range86-186.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [00:49] kickback: there's probably a module not being oaded [00:49] loaded [00:49] alisonken1home: maybe the module gets loaded and then gets unloaded? [00:50] :/ [00:50] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:51] bah, why does slackpkg always want to upgrade bind-9.7.1 to bind-9.4.3? [00:51] :P [00:51] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.76) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:51] for security? [00:51] trim: the secure release is 9.7.1 [00:51] popl:ghosts? [00:52] brb [00:52] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [00:52] leprechauns, while you're at it [00:53] kickback (~kickback@122.163.207.185) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:56] popl: because the version on the mirror for the Slackware branch you're tracking is 9.4.3. Duh. :) [00:56] 9.7.1 is only in -current [00:57] grazymax (~grazymax@host120-1-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:58] rworkman: there's no room for logic in this outfit, mister [00:58] if you are a netbsd lover, you should use -current [00:58] ;P [00:58] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:58] popl: sadly, that often seems true around here :) [00:58] rworkman: I figured that was likely the reason but laziness prevailed. [00:59] which is also something that seems to happen a lot around here. ;P [00:59] hehe [01:00] kickback (~kickback@122.163.207.185) joined ##slackware. [01:00] this time i used runlevel 3 and the keys didnt work at all :/ [01:01] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [01:03] kickback: about the ACPI messages, check /etc/acpi/acpi_handler.sh [01:03] ok [01:03] arfon (~arfon@adsl-75-54-85-86.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [01:04] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.76) joined ##slackware. [01:05] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. [01:05] clint- (~clint@pdpc/supporter/active/clint-) joined ##slackware. [01:06] hmm [01:06] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [01:07] merciful (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:07] nothing special or life threatening in the output [01:08] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [01:08] merciful (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [01:10] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-240-46-68.mts.modulonet.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:10] kickback: http://www.google.com/search?q=acpi_handler.sh [01:11] hba: I actually don't have any acpi events defined for my laptop and my brightness keys work fine [01:12] grazymax (~grazymax@host14-22-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:13] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-240-46-68.mts.modulonet.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:15] hmmmm it might help if i define the buttons in /proc/acpi/button [01:15] amirite? [01:16] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:17] kickback: /proc doesn't work like that [01:17] :( [01:17] ./proc is used to peek under the kernel's skirts and see what it's doing [01:18] that may be the best description of proc i've ever come across [01:18] oh yeah, forgot... ;) [01:20] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:21] damn i need to do some reading [01:21] dt` (~dt@pool-72-93-194-184.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:21] dt` (dt@pool-72-93-194-184.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:21] OffPlanet (~meler@adsl-69-232-118-209.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:21] OffPlanet (~meler@adsl-69-232-118-209.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:21] [22:14:40] ./proc is used to peek under the kernel's skirts and see what it's doing <-- Perv... [01:21] kickback: in /proc/acpi,is there a ibm folder? [01:22] Motoko-chan: alisonken1lap <-- retired saior :) [01:22] MLanden: nope [01:22] saior? [01:22] sailor even [01:23] in otherwords, yes, a perv [01:23] I think we preferred "prevert" :) [01:24] ken, how many guys have you shagged in your day? [01:24] jeev: none - preverts != homosexual [01:25] am0rphis (~ewq@91.145.214.104) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:26] kickback: does lsmod|grep acpi show anything? [01:26] kickback: I'd check /etc/rc.d/rc.modules-2.6.29.6 and see if any of the acpi modules are loaded [01:26] acpi_cpufreq 5705 1 [01:26] freq_table 2027 2 cpufreq_ondemand,acpi_cpufreq [01:26] processor 26515 3 acpi_cpufreq [01:27] these 3 lines with lsmod [01:27] ok [01:27] I seem to recall some bug with your particular laptop [01:27] I'm trying to find the article I read it in [01:27] popl: thanks [01:27] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [01:27] bug? [01:28] do you mean the time drift? [01:28] NOTtheMessiah (NOTtheMes@pool-96-255-181-5.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:28] no I think it's a kernel thing with the buttons [01:28] I might be tghinking of a different Lenovo model though [01:29] lol, you got mines [01:29] mines? [01:29] hahaha [01:29] boom! [01:30] http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:Lenovo_3000 [01:31] "The ACPI and EC firmware are completely incompatible with ThinkPads, and thinkpad-acpi will not support it. The Lenovo 3000 are not ThinkPads." [01:31] hba: hmmm thats interesting [01:31] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: sleep, interestingly enough I tend to favor it a bit these days [01:31] good job! chinese [01:32] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.87.104) joined ##slackware. [01:32] worked with every other distro i tried :( [01:32] Mowah (1000@c-1e87e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [01:32] (that's why i don't touch thinkpad) [01:32] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:33] time for me to buy an acer :/ [01:33] acer is junk now [01:33] acer's founder has quited [01:34] so, the quality is down as a river [01:34] dunno, my brother just bought an acer and the quality is aweeeeesooooome. [01:34] also, all the hardware is supported by free drivers [01:34] good luck [01:34] Action: hba is a happy-marihuana-boy-thinkpad-t61 owner :) [01:34] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [01:35] chinese can't earn my money, hahaha [01:35] bite me [01:36] trim (ghostass@122-124-128-153.dynamic.hinet.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:39] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [01:40] ki2azy (~krazy@99.189.55.239) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:42] My previous notebook was an Acer. It felt a bit flimsy, but was actually pretty solid. 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[01:53] |Slacker| (~cris@201.86.46.176.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:53] ok, time for bed.. see you later :) [01:55] lol i found a solution [01:56] the xbacklight -set command does the trick :D [01:57] hba (~hba@189.130.33.133) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:57] kickback: cool [01:58] and there i was, pulling my hair, punching my balls trying to configure acpi, while the solution is a simple command [01:58] nogo (~crash@122-124-128-153.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:05] Mowah (1000@c-1e87e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:06] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-55-136.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:06] kickback: mapping to the function combo keys? see in xbacklight manpage,it lets you increase and decrease in percentages [02:06] MLanden: might as well try that [02:07] hey MLanden (btw) [02:07] heya shonudo...how's it going? [02:07] it goes [02:07] great day [02:07] great weather [02:08] that too! [02:08] good to hear [02:08] your computer will be killed by this hot summer! [02:08] heh [02:08] hey nogo [02:08] except you are an aussie [02:09] i'm not but my dog is... [02:09] aussie shepherd [02:09] you know... there are many chinese in australia nowadays... [02:10] ?? [02:10] do you watch tv? a chinese abandon his daughter in australia [02:10] more terrorble things [02:10] i don't watch much tv, nogo [02:11] ... [02:11] been messing with multi-emulator mednafen...pretty good for pc-engine emulation [02:11] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:11] _marc` (~marc@port-92-195-98-45.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [02:12] oh my, you are so old. may i ask what a pc-engine is? [02:12] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-71-127-17-34.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Be excellent to each other. [02:12] cocabird (ad4d721e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.77.114.30) left irc: Quit: Page closed [02:12] kids play ps3 [02:12] never heard of mednafen before... just found the website [02:13] looks interesting [02:13] 8bit system...bout the time of the nes [02:13] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [02:14] z80? [02:15] japanese are awesome [02:15] shonudo: yeah..was looking for some oddball systems to emulate and saw that one listed on a blog [02:15] there was a company called hudson [02:15] but chinese pirated tat name [02:15] that [02:16] yarvin (~yarvin@155-197-58-66.gci.net) joined ##slackware. [02:17] MLanden, do you game much? [02:17] nogo (crash@122-124-128-153.dynamic.hinet.net) left ##slackware. [02:17] nogo: yeah...used a bee for their logo...remember a few games they ported to the c64 and later the amiga [02:17] edthix (~ed@115.135.182.46) joined ##slackware. [02:19] shonudo: up to a point...but not one who games heavily...more like messing with the demos that were released for those systems [02:19] interesting... that would be close to my level of interest as well [02:20] i only play nes and snes games anymore [02:21] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-65-157.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:21] kingbeowulf (~kingbeowu@c-71-59-193-120.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:22] shonudo: good on retrogaming...'specially now in 2010 on the point of portability [02:25] some of the old games are still my favorites... wolfenstein 3D comes to mind [02:26] and pong makes a good screensaver [02:26] kickback: what 'bout sega(master system or genesis/megadrive) ? [02:27] MLanden: yes, genesis of course [02:27] does slackware have package signing for official packages? [02:27] splatterhouse and golden axe come to my mind [02:28] street fighter alpha 3 on MAME is also one of my favs [02:29] kickback: yeah..that's a good one [02:29] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:31] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [02:36] kingbeowulf (~kingbeowu@c-71-59-193-120.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:38] Reticenti: That is what the .txz.asc files are for. ;-) [02:40] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-23.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:44] Axius (~fd@92.84.4.62) joined ##slackware. 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[03:06] Axius (~fd@92.84.4.62) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:06] slackpkg checks the md5sum AFAIK [03:09] ive apparently grown dated in my knowledge of the ext FS and how the linux kernel mounts it. http://pastebin.com/jv6izbZJ why does it attempt to mount / as ext3 and ext2 before ext4 when fstab states 4? [03:09] even pkgtools check the md5sum [03:11] gniks: you can bypass that by adding rootfstype=ext4 to the append line in /etc/lilo.conf [03:11] so is that just the kernel guessing what the filesystem type is at initialization? [03:11] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:12] yeah [03:12] interesting [03:12] i don't ever recall seeing that before :p [03:12] its quite recent [03:13] ah, that may be why :) [03:13] i thought the boot loader told the kernel all the info about / for kernel initialization and then it used fstab for the remount later [03:13] kickback (~kickback@122.163.207.185) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [03:14] i mean, i knew about the append line parameter [03:15] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [03:15] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-164-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:16] wow new vim [03:16] any cool new features? [03:17] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-23.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:17] https://groups.google.com/group/vim_announce/browse_thread/thread/66c02efd1523554b [03:18] oooh, encryption of the swap file looks amazing [03:19] matt0 (~matt0@60-241-58-23.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [03:20] Is anywhere here using the rt61pci wireless driver? [03:23] jhw (~jhw@p548D74E1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [03:23] jhw (~jhw@p548D74E1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:24] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:25] matt0 (~matt0@60-241-58-23.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [03:25] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [03:25] matt0 (~matt0@60-241-58-23.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [03:25] Is anywhere here using the rt61pci wireless driver? [03:25] Specifically in 13.0> versions [03:27] peeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrfeeeeeeeeeeect [03:29] comp_ (~comp_@81.196.151.13) joined ##slackware. [03:30] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-68-122.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:33] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.2, revision: 4740, sources date: 20100627, built on: 2010-08-08 18:29:00 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [03:34] matt0 (~matt0@60-241-58-23.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:34] kickback (~kickback@122.161.92.123) joined ##slackware. [03:37] matt0 (~matt0@60-241-58-23.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [03:40] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:42] matt0 (~matt0@60-241-58-23.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:42] matt0 (~matt0@60-241-58-23.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [03:44] If anyone is using the rt61pci driver in versions >13.0, please let me know if it is horribly unstable for you because the driver in 12.2 and previous are stable as a rock [03:44] Also if they're some way to use the module version from 12.2 in >13.0, let me know. [03:45] When I say horribly unstable (I mean as unstable as a pre-pubescent teen girl's sexuality) [03:46] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [03:47] wouldn't that be " a pre-pubescent male sexuality" ? [03:47] If it helps..... [03:54] archceza1 (1000@ddy5.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [03:54] This is it. [03:54] I'm determined to create my own programming language. [03:54] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) joined ##slackware. [03:54] archcezar (1000@aer24.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:55] YOU HEAR ME! [03:55] MAYBE [03:55] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:56] Action: miss_riss throws Ramen noodle at matt0. [03:56] if i add new variant for a keyboard layout in /etc/X11/xkb/{symbols/us, rules/xorg.xml, rules/xorg.lst} then kxkb don't "see" that new variant, what can be reason? [03:56] I WILL SUCCEED! [03:56] vdv, restart X. [03:56] miss_riss: already [03:56] and several times [03:57] moreover, if i change description of the existing variant, then it's not changed in list in kxkb [03:57] no [03:57] yes [03:58] something is wrong with kxkb in kde4 [03:58] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-186-245-111.range86-186.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:58] and also they've removed sticky switching [03:58] vdv, Hm.. [03:58] I always get a feeling then it's permission. [03:58] Did you try it on root? [03:59] kde runs under normal user [03:59] changes done under root [03:59] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-17-71.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [03:59] Try fixing it under user and root. [04:00] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [04:00] but user can't change system-wide settings [04:00] miss_riss, what do you mean? [04:02] vdv, agh nvm. I can't help right, too distracted and too pissed off at the same time. [04:02] okay [04:08] `oi (kerbau@edge.edish-network.com) joined ##slackware. [04:10] Morn [04:11] Zordrak, have you ever undertaken a project of creating yoru own language / compiler? [04:13] which package-manager works with slackbuilds? [04:14] None, you compile on your own. [04:14] miss_riss: Why in hell would I want to undertake such a nightmare task? [04:14] but there should be one, i just forgot the name [04:14] vdv, sbopkg.org [04:15] for slackbuilds.org stuff [04:15] ah, yes [04:15] fire|bird, thanks :) [04:15] yw [04:15] Zordrak, then I shall do this. With 100% conviction. Brb. [04:16] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-431683.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [04:17] miss_riss: why do you want to do it anyway? [04:17] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-431683.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:18] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [04:18] fire|bird, and it still will be possible to build slackbuilds outside of sbopkg, right? [04:19] where does slackware store list of installed slackbuild packages? [04:20] OH. MY. GOD. [04:20] just look at this website http://www.havenworks.com/ [04:20] vdv: slackbuids.org was here loooooong before sbopkg was created [04:20] made me puke [04:20] alisonken1lap, i know [04:20] `oi (kerbau@edge.edish-network.com) left irc: [04:21] kickback, to jump my programming skills. [04:21] vdv: the packages are installed like normal - just look for /var/log/packages/*SBo [04:21] miss_riss: okies [04:21] kickback: gah - looks like someone is still using something from win95 days for their webpages [04:22] kickback, so I can call myself equal to rworkman, alisonken1home, Zordrak, in terms of skills, you know, an equivalency [04:22] i don't remember exactly but anywhere under /etc or /usr/share i have seen a dir named slackbuild(s) [04:23] vdv: if you're using sbopkg, there's an option to list/remove sbo installed packages [04:23] ? [04:23] miss_riss: good for you. good luck [04:23] that's why is interesting where sbopkg get's the list of installed sbo packages [04:23] kickback, no need, I've created my own Linux before, it'll just be another big project. [04:23] :D [04:24] vdv: sbopkg is bash scripts, you can browse the source or do as I suggested and "ls /var/log/packages/*SBo" [04:24] just lists all packages in /var/log/packages/ containing SBl? [04:24] ah [04:25] RaNdY (randy@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) left irc: Changing host [04:25] RaNdY (randy@shellium/member/randy) joined ##slackware. [04:27] still not all existing builds for 13.0 in slackbuilds.org are available for 13.1, is it ok if i use 13.0 builds in 13.1? (yeah, i know that wasn't tested and i may have problems, but i just ask for other's experience in that) [04:28] vdv: basically yes [04:28] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.76) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:28] no - should be ok unless it's something like a binary being d/l (like flash) [04:28] even that should be ok [04:28] okay [04:28] Stx_ (~stx@c-c078e255.08-20-6b6c6d10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [04:32] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:34] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [04:34] let's compile webkit-gtk :P [04:34] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:34] Gl :) [04:35] quad-core \o/ [04:35] actually, I have 6 cores availble for that :P [04:38] hahaha, sbopkg lists me no potential updates, it only tells me that the versions of tmux and mldonkey installed on my system are newer than sbopkg's :P [04:38] morning lads o/ [04:38] morning phrag [04:39] heh [04:40] morning phrag =) [04:40] Cores wont do you any good unless the software can handle it anyway ;) [04:40] Morning phrag [04:40] Bbl folks [04:41] hardcore [04:41] Stx_: make -j4 :-) [04:41] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left ##slackware. [04:41] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [04:41] or -j5 [04:41] ##slackware: mode change '+o phrag' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [04:41] pprkut: btw, have you tried 'make -jX' for icu? :-) [04:41] ##slackware: mode change '-o tomaw' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [04:42] Stx_ (~stx@c-c078e255.08-20-6b6c6d10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Stx_ [04:42] jonmasters (~jcm@dallas.jonmasters.org) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [04:43] export MAKEFLAGS=-j8 [04:43] bah, sbopkg had stayed on the repo for 13.0 [04:44] but sometimes it fails hard so I don't like to enable it for everything (and never for 'make install') [04:44] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. 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[04:54] ##slackware: mode change '-o phrag' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [04:55] I still don't understand why slackboy doesn't set the topic on its own: every week it updates the topic saying mozilla products have had a security release, and if they ever manager to spend a whole week without one, we're sure the next week will see two security releases /o\ [04:55] Action: adrien hides :p [04:55] matt0 (~matt0@60-241-58-23.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Quit: matt0 [04:58] lol [05:03] webkit-gtk build started :-) [05:08] lol [05:09] adrien: so not worth mentioning? [05:09] or could just make a permalink... check your mozillas [05:09] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:10] could leave it in /topic forever :p [05:10] sheller (~sheller@122.6.126.186) joined ##slackware. [05:10] and (maybe) one day, /topic will read "*no* mozilla update today" ;-) [05:11] adrien: unrealistic expectations [05:11] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:13] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:14] 10 minutes to compile webkit-gtk [05:15] and cpu at 36°C :P [05:17] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-17-71.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:18] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.248) joined ##slackware. [05:18] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7AE69.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [05:19] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-186-243-166.range86-186.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [05:19] hi there [05:20] hey there [05:21] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) joined ##slackware. [05:21] hi alisonken [05:21] whats up [05:21] something new? [05:21] me. for about 5 more hours [05:21] same old stuff [05:22] ah great XD i'm drinking a mate tea right now [05:22] the best start [05:22] Action: clint- paid his respects to #opensolaris [05:23] clint-: there is a new opensource project called illumos [05:23] I know there working on stuff ;) [05:23] I'm waiting to see when OOo is going to get forked [05:23] yep [05:23] properly forked, that is [05:23] go-oo? [05:23] i think there [05:23] theres still belinux etc.. nexenta [05:23] yes [05:24] thats it adrien was about to mention it [05:24] go-oo is a fork, but it still has a few things to work out [05:24] koffice is nice but sometimes slow [05:24] sheller (~sheller@122.6.126.186) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [05:24] i need that office suites for mails nothing else [05:25] texts were written in plain text or latex if it is official [05:25] koffice is more of a desktop publishing setup, harder to work with [05:27] building kile [05:28] thats the best office suit XD [05:28] yeah kile is very nice [05:28] are there diffrent language files [05:28] for kile [05:29] m3tti, I took some of the koma letter templates from lyx - they make very nice letters [05:29] although I wouldn't recommend lyx, just steal the templates [05:29] XD [05:30] not sure about language though [05:30] dive: with logo and stuff [05:30] well I don't use any with a logo but there might be some [05:30] cool [05:30] maybe i'll do a clue XD [05:32] lyx.org is down [05:33] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:33] yeah :/ [05:33] clint- (~clint@pdpc/supporter/active/clint-) left irc: Quit: sleeping , everyone take care :-) [05:34] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:34] kickback (~kickback@122.161.92.123) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:35] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.176.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:35] kickback (~kickback@122.161.92.123) joined ##slackware. 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[05:53] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:53] reminds me I have to do that again for my laptop [05:54] is there a kde 4.5 icon theme [05:54] for 4.4 [05:55] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [05:57] Zordrak: lol [06:05] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [06:06] http://www.deathstarinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/darkside-wallpaper.png <- lol [06:06] marienz (~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz) joined ##slackware. [06:08] lol [06:09] dark side of the moon? [06:09] that is no moon! [06:09] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [06:14] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-186-243-166.range86-186.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:16] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-163-126-80.range86-163.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. 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[07:06] never_mind (~dexter@219.64.95.198) joined ##slackware. [07:08] Mowah (1000@c-1e87e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [07:13] Nick change: never_mind -> Dexter [07:17] kickback (~kickback@122.162.131.201) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:18] Action: Zordrak is buying a car tomorrow :D [07:18] kickback (~kickback@122.162.131.201) joined ##slackware. [07:18] Grat. [07:21] ooh, type? [07:24] 55-reg Mondeo Ghia X [07:25] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:25] ;_; I can't even drive. [07:27] vignesh (~vignesh@122.164.254.172) joined ##slackware. [07:27] Hello [07:27] I am using slackware current [07:28] I just checked the system monitor and noticed that only 1 cpu was shown though mine has 2 [07:28] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:28] and a quick check on uname -r shows 2.6.33.4. How do I enable both cpu's ? [07:28] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7AE69.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [07:29] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [07:30] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [07:30] I am using slackware current [07:30] and a quick check on uname -r shows 2.6.33.4. How do I enable both cpu's ? [07:30] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7AE69.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:30] I just checked the system monitor and noticed that only 1 cpu was shown though mine has 2 [07:31] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [07:31] vignesh: you might use an smp kernel. [07:31] Zbouby, I will check if current has it [07:32] I'm currently using it, I think :) [07:33] http://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-current/kernels/hugesmp.s/ [07:34] what is the difference between huge and normal smp ? Is it the ram support ? [07:34] sorry huge and huge-smp [07:34] Zbouby: uname -a should tell you what you're running [07:34] I am going to download it from here: ftp://ftp.slackware.no/linux/slackware/slackware-current/slackware/a/ [07:34] alisonken1lap: Yep, I know. [07:34] no - extra register support for multiple cores [07:34] vignesh: i would not use the huge kernel for normal everyday use [07:34] ok [07:34] vignesh: only smp support between huge and hugesmp [07:35] so generic-smp [07:35] thats what I use [07:35] and huge kernel is ? [07:35] generic-smp requires an initrd - make sure you read it up [07:35] and then I rebuild it to have what I need/use [07:35] http://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-current/slackware/a/kernel-generic-smp-2.6.33.4_smp-i686-1.txz this one :) [07:35] ( don't forget kernel modules .. ) [07:36] so I need to install generic-smp and smp-modules [07:36] huge/huge-smp both have the majority of drivers already compiled in - generic/generic-smp both have minimal drivers built in and requires an initrd [07:36] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [07:36] vignesh: huge includes a lot of drivers you won't use. [07:36] ok [07:36] generic keep them as modules. [07:37] and .. be sure to understand what initrd means to you at this moment ;) [07:37] Actually looks like it is already installed [07:37] which one is running ? [07:37] hold on I will paste bin [07:38] as alisonken1lap said, uname -a will tell you. [07:39] http://pastebin.ca/1918066 [07:39] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [07:40] Currently its loading huge [07:40] # [07:40] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2010-08-08 05:26 vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-huge-2.6.33.4 [07:40] no wonder it takes ages to load [07:40] bnguyen (~bnguyen@58.187.97.149) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:40] you have to change theses links [07:40] ah make them go to -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2.6M 2010-05-13 08:11 vmlinuz-generic-smp-2.6.33.4-smp [07:41] i would not change the links, instead make a new entry in lilo [07:41] incase you did something wrong, at least the huge link isnt dead [07:41] ah, yep, I forget the error part of the tweak ;) [07:42] bnguyen (~bnguyen@58.187.100.137) joined ##slackware. [07:42] I always have a full filename listed in lilo, and make sure huge/hugesmp is in the list while playing with initrd [07:42] it's also a good backup in case something may have issues [07:42] ok [07:42] vignesh: to speed up kernel loading, you can add a line in lilo.conf with "compact" [07:42] ok so now I add a new entry in lilo [07:42] to load generic [07:42] do I have to mkinitrd again for generic-smp ? [07:43] and what about system.map [07:43] system.map is about the same I think. [07:43] you have to make an initrd for each generic kernel - because the name is different between generic and generic-smp, so /lib/modules/$(uname -a) will be different [07:44] ok [07:45] guys there is any script which show the files which are not on slackware packages? [07:46] Axius (~fd@92.82.80.225) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:47] you mean programs you compiled, but did not install as a package? [07:49] Zbouby, should I use -c with mkinitrd to clean the previous tree ? [07:50] vignesh: I think you should, yes .. And give a different filename with -o [07:50] Zbouby, mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.33.4-smp -o initrd-2.6.33.4-smp.img [07:51] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7AE69.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [07:51] vignesh: you may include some modules ? not ? [07:51] I dont know [07:51] the common modules to include are a driver for drive controller [07:52] you can add modules as needed [07:52] and a driver for filesystems you need to access / [07:52] Ah.. [07:52] I have to mention all the drivers I need ? [07:52] mkinitrd means "the run to /" ;) [07:52] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.wpbhfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:52] I have done it before in fedora [07:52] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7AE69.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:52] yep, but you won't need doozens ;) [07:52] I just create an .img [07:53] and then mention it in grub [07:54] Hmm I guess this wouldn't embed any driver :$, I'm note sure but .. [07:54] It seems useless to me :$ [07:54] Hmm [07:54] I am confused now [07:54] which fs have you on / ? [07:54] ext4 [07:55] ext4.ko is the driver for that ;) [07:55] hmm before continuing I gonna read the mkinitrd word [07:56] ok [07:56] It seems recent versions I didn't use make the selection itself [07:56] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-nowecmxvlkzmgkhw) joined ##slackware. [07:56] lsmod will list all the modules I need except the ones compiled [07:57] you won't need to load them all [07:57] they will mostly be loaded when / will be readable in the boot sequence. [07:57] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [07:58] ok [07:58] http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/slackware/slackware-13.1/source/a/mkinitrd/README.initrd <-- this file is pretty clear [07:58] nogo (~me@122-124-133-29.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [07:58] will see that [07:58] mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.32.3 -m ext4 -f ext4 -r /dev/sdb3 [07:58] something like this [07:58] ok [07:58] if you're running slack, then /boot/README.initrd is available also [07:58] yes I am running slack current [07:59] Ah i get it now [07:59] let me try that [07:59] mkinitrd -c -k $(uname -a) -m ext3:ext4: -f ext4 -r /dev/sdb3 -o /boot/initrd-$(uname -a).gz [07:59] ok [08:00] going to try now [08:00] there is no other initrd.gz [08:01] indeed :) [08:01] Zbouby, why is that ? [08:01] zplinux (~zplinux@213.8.57.217) joined ##slackware. [08:01] hi all [08:01] oops - make that -o /boot/initrd-genric-$(uname -r).gz [08:01] because you're currently usine a huge kernel. [08:01] can anyone help me use sshfs with autofs? [08:01] the -a to uname would be too much crap :) [08:01] Zbouby, Oh [08:01] ok [08:01] when i run ssh user@host /mnt/sshfs - it works [08:01] I just like naming my initrd's for the kernel that it's matched up to [08:02] s/usine/using/* [08:02] bar -fstype=fuse,rw,nodev,nonempty,noatime,allow_other,max_read=65536 :sshfs\#tjansson@bar.com\: [08:02] but I added that line to my /etc/auto.misc - and it doesnt work [08:02] Zbouby, will be back [08:02] vignesh (~vignesh@122.164.254.172) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:05] D1ver (~chatzilla@ppp121-44-188-32.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:06] vignesh (~vignesh@122.164.254.172) joined ##slackware. [08:06] Hi Zbouby [08:06] the smp kernel doesnt load. I get an error in loading / [08:06] something like no filesystem can load root fs [08:07] vignesh: to answer your initrd question - initrd's depend on the choices you make for your install (fs type being the biggie as well as root partition) - so initrd's are not shipped with slackware [08:07] However adding compact has speeded up the loading process [08:07] ok [08:07] vignesh: it may miss some drivers :} [08:08] so the initrd is wrong [08:08] ext3,ext4 is a good choice, don't remove it [08:08] Let me try adding the huge-smp to the lilo.conf [08:08] you may now find which driver makes your disks run. [08:08] it should be easier dont you think ? [08:08] to test if it fixes your multiproc issues, yep. [08:08] because huge contains everything [08:08] yes,exactly [08:08] mutoga (~Shiva@3615mylife.foreverlovingjah.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:09] I can do that without mkinitrd ? [08:09] but, as it has been already said, huge is not for everyday use. [08:09] mkinitrd -c -k $(uname -a) -m ext3:ext4: -f ext4 -r /dev/sdb3 -o /boot/initrd-$(uname -r).gz [08:09] yes, add an entry to lilo.conf with hugesmp and without any reference to you initrd file [08:09] that'll do the trick. [08:09] Zbouby, I didnt make any reference to initrd in my lilo.conf for smp [08:10] anyway, we will come back to that. [08:10] hu ;) [08:10] Let me check smp issue with huge smp [08:10] alisonken1lap, I tried that [08:10] in your boot section for generic smp you may add this: initrd = /boot/initrd.gz [08:10] ok [08:10] ( with correct filename, btw ) [08:10] yeah yeah :) [08:10] vignesh: did it show "loading initrd" with dots on boot? [08:10] No [08:10] I didnt add initrd in lilo [08:11] :( [08:11] yeah - you have to tell lilo to load the initrd you created [08:11] in the section where you have the generic-smp, add "initrd /boot/ [08:11] then rerun lilo as boot [08:11] root rather [08:13] will brb [08:13] testing huge smp now [08:13] vignesh (~vignesh@122.164.254.172) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:14] kickback (~kickback@122.162.131.201) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:16] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [08:19] vignesh (~vignesh@122.164.254.172) joined ##slackware. [08:19] Hey guys [08:19] Both huge-smp and generic-smp work [08:20] now that I mentioned initrd in lilo.conf [08:20] Thanks guys for your help, Zbouby and alisonken1lap [08:20] I didnt see any difference in loading time b/w generic-smp and huge-smp [08:20] maybe the memory wise , there may be a difference [08:21] comp_ (~comp_@81.196.151.13) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:22] Does the slackbook cover all this kind of stuff.. I need start reading it [08:22] D1ver (~chatzilla@ppp121-44-133-47.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [08:22] hmm I don't know what slackbook covers .. [08:22] ( I must admit, I never read it .. ) [08:23] :) [08:23] http://www.slackbook.org/html/index.html [08:23] Yeah i know [08:23] It seems a little old .. but why not reading that [08:23] I have it as a pdf [08:23] since generic has to load the initrd, the time difference is not the issue, its the extra stuff in huge that's the difference [08:26] so memory ? [08:26] huge is a heavier kernel [08:26] memory and the processes still running in the background even though there's no hardware for the module [08:27] ok [08:28] j0z_ (unix@189.58.131.149) joined ##slackware. [08:28] j0z_ (unix@189.58.131.149) left irc: Changing host [08:28] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [08:28] Jimmen (~Devilman@host211-175-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Sto andando via [08:34] Did I program this song right? 99 of bottles of beer on the wall;99 bottles of beer;Take one down, pass it around;98 of bottles of beer on the wall [08:35] and keep going down to zero - yep [08:37] Nice song to sing till you drop [08:37] Elektro_ (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [08:37] Done! [08:37] alisonken1home, it goes to 1. [08:38] Posting it on my site now. [08:39] lol [08:39] 99 bottles of piss [08:39] v4nelle (~van@78-185-25.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:39] each programmer/salesman know that [08:39] s/know/knows [08:40] anyone at libre.fm? Do you know how to setup libre.fm for audacious [08:42] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [08:42] nogo (me@122-124-133-29.dynamic.hinet.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:42] Anyone compiled the latest banshee on slackware ? [08:44] m3tti: http://bugs.libre.fm/wiki/clients [08:44] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [08:45] Anyone mounted an iphone on slackware to see photos [08:45] I think I need fuse for that [08:46] pupit: in 2.3 audacious there is no scrobble [08:46] r [08:47] http://www.rhisa.com/node/575 [08:47] BOOYA! [08:47] oxiredo_ro (~dumped@89.123.167.189) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:47] need to fix the last one :) [08:47] otherwise pretty good [08:48] yeah [08:48] Last one? LAST ONE? What happened? It's 0./ [08:48] then how can someone take 1 [08:48] last line [08:48] 0 bottles of beer on the wall - take one down .... ? [08:48] But.. [08:48] BUt it said here - http://rosettacode.org/wiki/99_Bottles_of_Beer [08:49] ;_; [08:49] miss_riss: you could take the wall down... [08:49] Haha [08:49] pupit, :D!!! [08:49] pupit: no when you're drunk [08:49] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [08:49] I'm putting htat up there pupit. [08:49] <3 [08:50] your violating copyright here miss_riss [08:50] vignesh, what? How? [08:51] Just kidding [08:51] Oh. [08:51] maybe its someone`s song [08:51] nope - song is so old, it's out of copyright [08:51] Go ahead [08:51] Updated! [08:51] put it under creative commons [08:51] :) [08:52] vignesh, I'm not tkaing credit for this song, how is it violating copyright? It's the same as lyric website putting up lyrics. [08:52] miss_riss, cool, it was a joke [08:52] Oh. [08:53] :) [08:53] put it so "0 bottles of beer on the wall, 0 bottles of beer - dang, out of beer. time to pass out!" [08:54] nachox (~Ignacio@OL147-242.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [08:54] m3tti: have you seen the new 2.4 audacious interface? pretty cool [08:54] vignesh (~vignesh@122.164.254.172) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:55] D1ver (~chatzilla@ppp121-44-133-47.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.6/20100721141910] [08:56] alisonken1home, really? It says I didn't have to. Just... I dunno.. what you see right now all the way to the bottom is what I have.. [08:56] Hm.. [08:56] i liked amarok in 3.5 kde but now its too heavy for my needs [08:56] miss_riss: it's a parody song - you can make it any way you like it [08:57] i like audacious [08:57] pupit, clementine. [08:57] with the simple gtk frontend [08:58] have found a great gtk theme that fits to kde 4.4 [08:58] pupit, it's a fork of the old amarok. [08:58] http://rosettacode.org/wiki/100_doors I don't get this. [08:59] clementine.. will check it, dive ;) [09:00] They should categorize it by difficulty!! [09:00] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:00] dive: i hope its not heavy on cpu [09:01] pupit, or theres deadbeef [09:01] both on sbo [09:01] miss_riss: nice page [09:01] m3tti, huh. o.o [09:02] didn't know that rosettacode thing [09:03] marra (marra@fly.srk.fer.hr) joined ##slackware. [09:04] adrien: I'm compiling all my stuff on an icecream cluster, so everything is tested with "make -j10" atm [09:04] adrien: I'm noting stuff that's not supporting it, but not in the respective READMEs [09:05] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [09:05] miss_riss: it's not difficult: just do as said without worrying about optimizations/speed ;-) [09:05] pprkut: ok, and nice for the cluster ;-) [09:05] My math suck, so I dunno what the hell is GCD. [09:05] ;_; [09:05] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-200.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:05] Same with average. [09:05] vinegaroon (~sam@124-197-6-55.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:06] vinegaroon (~sam@124-197-6-55.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [09:06] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:07] biggest common denominator: 60 and 24: 12 (12*5 = 60, 12*2 = 24), tells you by how much you can simply/factor such numbers [09:07] So what's the formula for that? D: [09:07] adrien: I can point you to the place where I note it if you want ;) [09:08] pprkut: not now, I'm feeling too bad for anything =/ [09:08] haha [09:08] miss_riss: you compute it :P [09:09] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [09:11] ashtif (~ashtif@54009ED3.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) joined ##slackware. [09:14] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:15] im mirroring slackware with alienbobs script and i want to build the disk with my own packages i have built such as transmission, xclip, skype, evince. etc... so when i do an install, i want those packages to be installed automatically. will the trick do it if i put those packages in EXTRA? [09:16] um, no extra. some otgher in slackware dir [09:16] takes a few extra steps but essentially, yes [09:16] just make sure you don't use rsync since it will kill your additions as well [09:16] or copy them back after rsyncing with the mirror [09:16] iirc, in y/ (for instance) and a full install will do [09:16] really dirty however =) [09:16] alisonken1lap: yeah, i would copy them back [09:17] anyway - time to head home [09:17] adrien: yes! [09:17] wow, the news is reporting 1/5th of pakistan is under water [09:17] guax (~guax@189.4.108.113) joined ##slackware. [09:17] guax (~guax@189.4.108.113) left irc: Changing host [09:17] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [09:17] alisonken1lap: have a beer for me ;p [09:17] among bsd games ;) [09:17] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) joined ##slackware. [09:18] well, Los Angeles is 200ft below sea level :) hope the mountains stay up [09:18] i like xmms still [09:18] 200? are they passing out scuba gear now? [09:18] heh [09:18] audacious seemed too buggy lasttime i used it [09:19] I'm still waiting for the quake that makes us surf to Denver [09:19] Skywise: Dies irae ;) [09:19] geez, 1/5th is a lot! [09:19] source? [09:19] cnn [09:19] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [09:20] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.75.104) joined ##slackware. [09:22] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-10941493 [09:22] That's quite an image [09:23] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:23] Damn. [09:23] I'm reading some of the 99 beers on the wall implementation in C. [09:23] Why do people make their code as hard / complicated as possible for something as simple as this? [09:24] miss_riss: They haven't been reading their Rob Pike texts? [09:24] i dunno, how many c++ objects really get reused [09:25] miss_riss: show us the code [09:25] Should I unmount volumes before using lvcreate(8) ? [09:25] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:26] Mel-nix: it's a good idea to [09:26] beer=99; while(beer) {beer--}; [09:26] Nel-nix: Before create new volumes? [09:26] s/N/M/ [09:27] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:27] Mel-nix: You shouldn't need to. [09:27] nooper, already done with mine, it's successful but I'm looking at the solution to compare my code with others. [09:27] Surely you don't need 2-3 loops for 99 beers. [09:28] did you see my code? [09:28] sinuhe: I am already using LVM. I want to create LVs on an empty VG. [09:28] if it's empty, should be ok ? [09:29] Skywise, that's similar to what I have. [09:29] ezrafree (ezra@208.67.159.229) joined ##slackware. [09:29] ezrafree (ezra@208.67.159.229) left irc: Changing host [09:29] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) joined ##slackware. [09:31] brokendrink (~c99@c-f9fbe253.015-77-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [09:31] phrag: I got an error after creating the LV. [09:31] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:31] Mel-nix: what's mounted? [09:32] Mel-nix: what was the error [09:32] AFAIK you can totally do a create while its online and in use [09:32] i've created ne LV's on a running VG [09:32] new* [09:33] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_GCD_algorithm#Implementation_in_C Is this necessary?! [09:33] but resizing and stuff, would always umount first [09:33] phrag: actually I do that online too [09:33] and the XFS grow after an LVM grow can *only* be done online [09:33] Zordrak: Internal error: Maps lock 13828096 < unlock 13832192 [09:34] yeah.. thats an error.. not a whinge about mountedness [09:34] Zordrak: Following that the message "Logical volume 'downloads' created." [09:34] hm [09:35] Anyone her euse gmail? This is my first filter. Someone is spamming me, the same email, begging for something from me. [09:35] Do this: Skip Inbox, Delete it <--- does this delete it? Dunno why it says "skip inbox". :| [09:39] Actually ignore that. [09:39] Okay so is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_GCD_algorithm#Implementation_in_C even necessary?! [09:41] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [09:42] Aldaron (1000@nblzone-228-25.nblnetworks.fi) left ##slackware. [09:43] why would it be _necessary_ or not? [09:43] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7AE69.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [09:44] miss_riss: yeh it deletes it [09:44] alicephilippa (alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [09:44] and skips inbox... redundant options when used together really [09:45] skip inbox more for just archiving into a label [09:45] i use skip inbox for lots of bulk mail, and just use the label as another inbox [09:46] Do I need to run `vgscan --mknodes' and `vgchange -ay' after creating the LVs? [09:46] yes [09:47] the vgscan creates new device nodes, and the vgchange marks them active IIRC [09:47] doesn't vgscan need the --mknodes? [09:47] yes [09:48] admboom: that's what Mel-nix pasted [09:48] doh, scroll fail. lack of coffee is my excuse [09:48] =) [09:48] too much coffee is mine =P [09:48] lol [09:49] actually had 3 pts of coffee today already and it's only 2:45 =P [09:49] pots* [09:49] alicephilippa (alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:52] brokendrink (c99@c-f9fbe253.015-77-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:52] icaro (~icaro@unaffiliated/icaro) joined ##slackware. [09:53] icaro (icaro@unaffiliated/icaro) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [09:53] Action: phrag hits caffiene time [09:54] miss_riss (~risah@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: miss_riss [09:55] AnTourter (~gggjlt@geog-a111.ggy.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:59] Action: adrien hits chocolate time [09:59] shock-a-lot ;) [10:00] Action: KaMii hits beer time [10:00] beer time is one hour :P [10:00] In the output of mkfs.ext4 one of the lines read: "Calling BLKDISCARD from 0 to 64424509440 failed." [10:01] helen271 (~user@81.39.69.23) joined ##slackware. [10:02] what would make my system think that every single volume i try to mount is corrupt? three external harddrives, 2 internal harddrives and every single usb stick. my main computer slack 13.1 thinks all volumes are corrupt, always [10:02] and on other computers they work? [10:02] Mel-nix: which size? [10:02] KaMii: How do you mount the FS? [10:02] yes, my other computers do not report any problems [10:02] which volume* size [10:03] mount /dev/foo /mnt/foo [10:03] '-t ext4' ? [10:03] anywhere from 1 TB in size down to 2 gig usb sticks [10:03] adrien: 60G [10:03] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@97-127-222-25.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:03] some are fat 32 (usb) others are either ext2 ext3 or ext4 [10:04] ok, I thought you were trying on somthing much bigger (ext4 is limited to 16TB), did dmesg say anything? [10:04] KaMii: $ mount -v -t FS_TYPE /dev/foo /mnt/foo [10:04] ki2azy (~krazy@99.189.55.239) joined ##slackware. [10:04] KaMii: and what does dmesg say? [10:04] ive never had to be that specific before on mounting [10:04] and fdisk always reports the file systems are off a bit [10:05] but only on that computer [10:05] dodgy controller/ [10:05] my other computers do not report the errors [10:05] hrm... ok, that sounds right [10:05] i do have a controller thats going [10:05] Nick change: Fjorgynn -> fjorgynn [10:05] i need to replace my MB [10:06] if all disks on the same box are playing up, i'd point to the controller first [10:06] ya, that makes sense, not sure why i didnt think of that [10:07] what's that nice little cli torrent client ? [10:08] ctorrent? [10:08] phrag: Yes. [10:08] phrag: You can also take a look at the multi-protocol aria2c(1). [10:08] i need to find a cheap mb that can take my AMD athlon 3500+ procssor [10:13] hello, i'm trying to configure the wifi in my laptop (rt2860) with wpa2. It's doing this: 1) Connect to the router, 2) Obtain ip address (dhcp), 3) I do ping www.google.com, 4) After 2 or 3 pings i get the message "Added BSSID ... into blacklist. CTRL-EV [10:14] after that it tries to connect again, but i get: Authentication with (BSSID) timed out. [10:14] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:15] could be a problem with the driver, or a problem of configuration? [10:19] Elektro_ (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:23] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [10:23] Elfo (~no_w@83.240.167.193) joined ##slackware. [10:23] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:25] miss_riss (~risah@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [10:25] has anyone noticed a drop in their email servers spam volume? [10:25] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:25] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [10:25] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [10:25] very recently, like this past weekend [10:25] Skywise, I don't have a server but.. yeah I've noticed a lot less spam in my gmail accounts. [10:25] corretico (~laguilar@190.241.113.34) joined ##slackware. [10:26] its dropped off so much i was wondering if my server was broken [10:26] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@bl7-147-122.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:26] Probably the spammers gave up. [10:26] Even the economy has hit them hard. :) [10:26] Skywise: well they did arrest that spam group that was apparently responsible for 70% of the worlds spam or something [10:26] that sounds about right [10:26] phrag, when did this happen? [10:27] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.75.104) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:28] recently... last week i think? [10:28] Dexter (~dexter@219.64.95.198) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:28] my webmail server is acting like i upgraded it [10:28] at first i thought maybe something was wrong [10:29] we used to get about 60k spams an hour and now, i've seen only 1 in the past 20 mins [10:30] remarkable [10:30] Skywise, that one is from me. [10:31] :) [10:31] Action: miss_riss spams Skywise's server with love letters. [10:31] BP{k}: hi! I have a question for you :) [10:31] hmm, i can't find the story, but i know some big botnets were taken down in recent months [10:32] BP{k}: it's about my vm shutdown script problem [10:33] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [10:34] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:35] eabeacer (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:36] I dumped the process list at init3 and at init6 and noticed that the only difference is agetty is not running in init6. Would that influence the output of "virsh list" in any way? [10:37] artaud (~artaud@187.59.245.158) joined ##slackware. [10:37] artaud (~artaud@187.59.245.158) left irc: Changing host [10:37] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [10:37] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:39] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [10:39] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [10:40] DURgod (~DURgod@24-247-210-79.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [10:40] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@bl7-147-122.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: [10:42] vinegaroon (~sam@124-197-6-55.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:42] vinegaroon (~sam@124-197-6-55.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [10:43] gobi42 (~IceChat7@174-155-36-151.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [10:43] what's up everyone [10:43] has anyone tried useing a zonet wifi device with slack [10:43] root____ (~root@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [10:44] Howdy [10:44] nick arfon [10:44] what's up root [10:44] Nick change: root____ -> arfon [10:44] dont irc as root [10:44] it is the bad [10:44] How did I get root___ ??? Oh wait [10:44] brb [10:44] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [10:44] lol arfon [10:44] arfon (~root@209.236.250.213) left irc: Client Quit [10:44] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Client Quit [10:44] dang, we could of haxored him [10:45] anyone know of a good site to get just drivers and not setup crap for usb devices [10:46] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [10:46] Nick change: gobi42 -> gobi42_ [10:46] gobi42_: if it's not in the kernel, there's no "one stop shopping" site for drivers [10:46] this isn't windows [10:46] Forgot to un-su :( [10:47] Let's try this again... Howdy, my name is mud. [10:47] ..... [10:47] =P [10:47] Why do you have goat porn arfon? [10:47] Somebody has to have it? [10:47] lol i know that but i can't seem to find just the driver for a zonet wifi dongle they all have the damn widows setup only and no driver that works with ndiswrapper [10:47] point one of our ts'ers to it - he'll add it to his collection :) [10:47] gobi42_: ndiswrapper uses the windows firmware? [10:48] How did you find my goat pr0n collection riz? [10:48] Nick change: gobi42_ -> gobi42 [10:48] I believe so [10:48] yes it uses the windows driver so you can use that device in linux [10:48] i just can't find a driver for my wifi device [10:49] arfon, I haxxored you. [10:49] ok this is non-slackware related but how do i use my registered nick [10:49] HA!!!! Just don't get into my porcupine pr0n..... [10:49] gobi42, talk to #freenode. [10:49] arfon, I'll delegate that to Skywise. [10:49] /msg nickserv help [10:49] alkos333 (~alkos333@64.134.164.32) joined ##slackware. [10:49] you /msg nickserv identify passwd [10:50] Destructo (41585838@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.88.88.56) joined ##slackware. [10:50] thats a sticky subject [10:50] DURgod (~DURgod@24-247-210-79.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [10:50] hey all. whats the command to change servers ? [10:50] What server? [10:50] :) funny man [10:50] thanks skywise [10:50] Ewww, it's KaMii [10:50] type /server [10:50] Destructo: really depnds on what irc client your using [10:50] hai arfon [10:50] gobi /msg nickserv identify ghost42 [10:50] ah ok. thanks. [10:51] if you wanna see what servers are on your network then type /links [10:51] lol [10:51] gobi thanks for your password [10:51] hahahahahaha, [10:51] all i saw was ******* [10:51] might want to chang your password now, and fyi, use random letters and numbers [10:51] im having issues with my pcmcia wireless adapter. im so close but yet so far.... [10:52] gobi42: well, nice password you have there :) [10:52] Sky, you looking at my porcupine pr0n there? * *? [10:52] Poor gobi42. :( [10:52] Go change your password. [10:52] kickback (~kickback@122.162.131.201) joined ##slackware. [10:52] gobi42: hurry up and change your password, never know whos on here [10:52] no that was gobi's password [10:53] lol i know right now i got to change it but i don't think it registered on this sever must only be on my other server i use [10:53] you type /msg nickserve password [10:53] you're an idiot. [10:53] What's the Ip gobi? :) [10:53] So gobi42, shall Ic hange your password for you? :) [10:53] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:53] miss_riss: dont be mean, not everyone gets it right the first time [10:53] KaMii, :3 [10:54] Action: miss_riss watches KaMii cackles and take over poor gobi42's computer. [10:54] riz really is a haxxorz [10:54] Whoa, I'm getting this for my date: -1216716320 -1216705344 -1216708620 [10:54] unix time stamps [10:54] arfon, [10:54] Dominian, you recognize that? I gotta use standard human time stempz. [10:54] is anyone using a wireless adapter with broadcom chipset .. ? [10:54] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:55] i dont know how to take over ppls computers, and i wont do it either. I just dont like how people are always such a$$holes in here, when this is suppose to be a help channel [10:55] miss_riss: seconds since the epoch [10:55] Nick change: gobi42 -> gobi42_ [10:55] KaMii: Learning isn't always hand holding.. keep that in mind and things will go much more smoothly [10:55] i would Kamii if i could [10:55] Destructo: me [10:55] KaMii, like this: ssh root@dudesputer.com [10:55] arfon, lol oh no! [10:55] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:55] KaMii: excuse me? who's an asshole? [10:56] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) left irc: Client Quit [10:56] arfon: then i get introuble by international police [10:56] Guess how I learned about Dictionary Attacks..... [10:56] There's such thing as international police? [10:56] PFFT! KaMii, they don't do squat... They are too busy being employed by the *IAA. [10:56] interpol [10:56] phrag: heh [10:56] KaMii: depends on what help you ask for and how you ask [10:56] Interpol is not international police, nicely playyed though. [10:57] British Interpol. [10:57] Nick change: gobi42_ -> gobi42 [10:57] kickback if iwconfig sees my card as wlan0 what else do i need to use. does this mean i DONT need to use ndiswrapper. but i should do something in /libfirmare. which i dont know how [10:57] KaMii: answer my question please [10:57] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [10:57] alisonken1home: true, but still sometimes peole are just too quick to be rude [10:57] Wait it is. Hm.. [10:57] miss_riss: interpol isn't british [10:57] Destructo: have you tried using wicd to connect to the connection of your choice? [10:57] no sir. what would be the command ? [10:57] phrag, no I read the wiki, I stand corrected. [10:58] gobi42 (~IceChat7@174-155-36-151.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:58] KaMii: or you are misinterpreting and assuming they are rude. [10:58] Destructo: yes, broadcom NIC's are common and usuallyt have decent support in linux [10:58] ive seen people be very rude to others and to myself [10:58] destructo, just run wicd. it should be in the extras section of the slack dvd [10:59] Dominian, she's only a 14 year old kid [10:59] 15 [10:59] it'll give you a nice GUI [10:59] KaMii: Then you are probably too thin-skinned for IRC [10:59] Skywise: and? [10:59] she is [10:59] I could care less if she is 15 [10:59] Dominian, don't be expecting her to make sense [10:59] Skywise: point [10:59] :) [10:59] KaMii: don't generalise the entire channel and call us assholes just because 1 or 2 people out of the 1000's that frequent this channel were once rude to you [10:59] Dominian: that's what i was thinking...too thin-skinned [10:59] If you think people on IRC are rude, you must not get out much. [11:00] People as a whole are crazy. [11:00] see what i mean..... [11:00] KaMii: you will find that ##slackware is actually a rather placid channel, and i'd rather type my password into this channel than *many* others on IRC [11:00] phrag: please do :) [11:00] Action: Dominian waits with pen and paper [11:00] Dominian: heh [11:00] :) [11:00] KaMii: venture out into the wild west of IRC and you will miss the kindness and neutrality of this channel [11:00] KaMii: that wasn't me being rude to you [11:00] nyRednek: she was talkign to me [11:00] KaMii: also, if you don't like this channel GTFO [11:00] phrag its a pcmcia wireless adapter . linksys wpc54g .. same info ? [11:00] Destructo: des [11:00] er.. [11:01] Destructo: you'll probably have to use ndiswrapper with that card [11:01] nyRednek: yes you were, and I will not forget your rudness to me, it was uncalled for and inappropriate [11:01] Action: Dominian has the same one, ndiswrapper was the only way to get it working [11:01] oh wah wah wah [11:01] Dominian: true, but i do believe she was referring to me in this [11:01] Cry me a fuckin' river [11:01] jesus christ [11:01] KaMii: grow up and stop being a whiney kid [11:01] I dont remember being this much of a whiney ass at 15 [11:01] Dominian: case in point [11:01] I was out in the woods working with lumber! [11:01] chain saws and everything WOOT! [11:01] not bitching. [11:02] Dominian i have .. the thing is i get fatal : no ndiswrapper found .. after running modprobe nduiswrapper [11:02] sheesh [11:02] Destructo: then you didn't install the module [11:02] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: . [11:02] I don't rmember.. does slackware have ndiswrapper in extra/ now? [11:02] right. i followed the dirctions [11:02] Action: Dominian looks [11:02] this just proves my point... now you are all at it again..... **sigh** [11:02] who cares how old or gender.. most of the regulars in here were very active on IRC at that age... and not just in the nice fluffy channel that is ##slackware [11:02] fluffy [11:02] hehe [11:02] I've never known this channel to be 'fluffy' [11:03] KaMii: Trust me, this is tame to what it USED To be when I started here [11:03] i was on irc when it was just a bbs [11:03] Dominian: fluffy fluffy fluffy [11:03] Skywise: christ you woul dhave to bring up BBS [11:03] lol [11:03] Action: Dominian remembers those... sad days [11:03] KaMii: you have issues that a technical channel do not cater to.. try #therapy or #fuzzy [11:03] I was on bbs's when they were pen and paper... [11:03] arfon: hahaha [11:03] :) [11:03] Dominian: we are fairly fluffy =P [11:03] ya know, KaMii is right though, I've seen it too. [11:03] USPS FTW [11:04] Action: alisonken1home remembers building a bbs on os/2 [11:04] miss_riss: trust me, this isn't bad [11:04] arfon: damn, that's a little before me...mine were typewriters and phone lines [11:04] Dominian i did mame make install with no errors .. ndiswrapper -i thefile.inf showed no erros. when i do modprobe bnidswrapper . thats when i get the errors. how do i install the modules ? [11:04] nice =) [11:04] I wish I had my logs from years ago when I first started here.. itwa shorrible in here [11:04] Dominian, I know, it's bad in #c too. [11:04] With zhivago and all. [11:04] Destructo: modprobe ndiswrapper should doit.. you are doing it as root right? [11:04] I know some others where it's even more severe. [11:04] miss_riss: #c is horrible.. er well ##c [11:04] Destructo: did you run depmod -a? [11:04] I was here for a long time Dominian. If you were still staffer you could see my IP and see who I am. [11:04] Dominian, ya, I know personally. [11:04] I've been told to die, to be cut up, to be killed in ways unimaginable, etc. [11:05] lol [11:05] lol [11:05] Dominian yes as root. i get the same error [11:05] Good news is, I've seen some of them in pictures / person, they aren't all that tough looking. [11:05] Skinny punks or old people. [11:05] so because someone is worse, it now justifies? [11:05] That's why I no longer care. [11:05] try being a ##slackware op for 5+ years =P [11:05] that is the demographic of the geek [11:05] nyRednek mo ididnt , but will now. [11:05] internet tough guys [11:05] i've had my share of death threats lol [11:05] :P [11:05] kickback, precisely, ITG. [11:05] Destructo: before modprobe can find a module, you have to run depmod [11:06] ok so do depmod -a then do modprobe ndiswrapper ..? [11:06] KaMii: yeah, people are assholes. get over it. [11:06] KaMii: you have two options: 1) get over it. 2) GTFO [11:06] KaMii, use the ignore. [11:06] You forgot the ignore nyRednek, dumbass. :) [11:06] miss_riss: that would be a method of option 1 [11:06] Psh, fellower NYer should have thick skin to IGNORE. [11:07] No no, the real option of ignoring, not just getting it. [11:07] KaMii: that's life... give it a few years and you will realise [11:07] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:07] miss_riss: i said get over it, not get it [11:07] interesting how im the one that needs to ignore you guys, when if you are such the adults, why dont you just put me on ignore? wow, your not very logical [11:07] and what nyRednek said is a good general life lesson imho... get over it or gtfo =P [11:07] KaMii: easy [11:07] ##slackware: mode change '+o phrag' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [11:07] wow, this plane just crashed in columbia on landing and broke up into 3 pieces [11:07] ! [11:07] holy shit obvious troll is obvious [11:08] ##slackware: mode change '+q KaMii!*@*' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [11:08] kickback: heh [11:08] kickback, hm how was KaMii trolling? I still don't know what the difference is. [11:08] KaMii: grown ups solve their own problems =) [11:08] Dominian, look! Mon Aug 16 11:04:37 2010 [11:08] nyRednek youre in nyc ? [11:08] This you recognizee right? :D [11:08] Destructo: yeah [11:08] Action: Destructo is in manhattan [11:08] Destructo, I am in Brooklyn. [11:08] it was raining so hard tho, that people were strewn around the runway and only 1 person died [11:08] Skywise: like *just* now? [11:09] yea [11:09] Destructo: take the ferry, grab a bus, and you *might* get dumped out in front of my apartment [11:09] few hours ago [11:09] miss_riss: just look at her latest reply [11:09] miss_riss: I use UTC and the Month DD in irssi for 'human readable stuff' but for log tags.. I use unixtimestamps and UTC time [11:09] who said 1/5th of pakistan was under water... that's mental! [11:09] Staten Island ? [11:09] http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/08/16/colombia.plane.fatality/index.html?hpt=T1 yes [11:09] Destructo: yep [11:09] Dominian, oh no, this is programming C. [11:09] my uncle libves on victory blvd. across the street (sort of) from wagner college [11:10] wanger college? =P [11:10] yeah, people need to check the floatsam in pakistan for bin laden [11:10] Wagner College? [11:10] Destructo: i'm in mariner's harbor [11:10] ANYWAYS .. so after depmod -a , modprobe ndiswrapper should do the trick .. ? [11:10] Destructo: yah [11:10] perhaps he's bin laden in a hideout.. lol =P [11:10] trhodes you alive ? [11:10] sorry =/ [11:11] ##slackware: mode change '-o phrag' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [11:11] nyrednek so i dont need to mess with fwcutter or that etc .. [11:11] Why nobody gives props to Brooklynites huh?! [11:11] Destructo: usually not [11:11] miss_riss: used to live in flatbush [11:12] hrm [11:12] KaMii reminds me of missyjane for some reason [11:12] +q == quiet? [11:12] what do brooklyn and tampax have in common? btw its an old brooklyn joke [11:12] Dominian, really? [11:12] yes [11:13] Destructo, go away. >:( [11:13] miss_riss: i do miss brooklyn [11:13] Dominian, I assure you missyjane and KaMii are two different people though. [11:13] flatbush is the answer to the joke [11:13] miss_riss: i'll probably move back pretty soon [11:13] nyRednek: yes [11:14] phrag: ok...i'm haven't read the freenode faq, as it were [11:14] =) [11:14] miss_riss: how do you know? [11:14] nyRednek, how come? [11:14] nyRednek: it's the inverse of a client ignore =P [11:15] Dominian, I say this because I know missyjane personally. :F [11:15] well, not quite, but you get the picture =P [11:15] miss_riss: this borough has no real character [11:15] nyRednek, Manhattan? I know. [11:15] :) [11:15] miss_riss: and the pigs, omg, the pigs [11:15] miss_riss: no, staten island [11:15] Oh. [11:15] i have in FF opened some site and i have printed it in .pdf but hyperlinks are not click-able, just plain underlined text. is there any pdf creator with click-able links in it? [11:15] miss_riss: You do, do you? [11:15] miss_riss: i'm in f'ing jersey's armpit [11:16] nyRednek, x) [11:16] miss_riss: She's the PITA that attempted to get me in trouble with freenode staff [11:16] pupit: open office ? [11:16] Dominian, really? [11:16] Interesting. [11:16] phrag: its huge!! :D [11:16] pupit: haha, yeh it is =P [11:16] Btw, time_t todaystime(time_t*result).. what is t*result?! [11:16] pupit: abiword does that i guess [11:17] usus12jari (~ashe@118.96.223.128) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:17] pupit: scribus [11:17] kickback: then i have to save the page first then print it.. could do the job [11:17] scribus? its in slack? or on SBo? [11:18] pupit: forgot [11:18] pupit: i used it on ubuntu(hiss) [11:18] scribus is in sbo [11:18] No offense but what' the use of scribus? [11:19] usus12jari (~ashe@118.96.239.112) joined ##slackware. [11:19] thanks all :) [11:19] miss_riss: desktop publishing (compare to adobe pagemaker and similar apps) [11:19] miss_riss: it's a page layout package...allowing you to put links, etc into an ebook [11:19] Ah I see. [11:19] http://www.scribus.net/ [11:19] shonudo said it better [11:19] I know but I thought it was another word processor or something. [11:20] miss_riss: no [11:22] you guys seen this? http://comixed.com/2010/07/31/4-koma-comic-strip-its-complicated/ [11:22] Action: nyRednek chirp [11:22] My asthma is kicking in again. [11:23] miss_riss: my wife's has been bad this summer [11:23] nyRednek, :( [11:23] you should pay attention to the air quality index [11:23] How? [11:23] theres a site called airnow.gov i think [11:24] miss_riss: i know in arkansas, they'd give ozone warnings [11:24] Skywise, oh shoot that's a real site. [11:24] yep [11:24] miss_riss: i don't know what they do here on the news, or if they do anything [11:24] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:24] has forecasts and info and you can see things by zipcode [11:25] i think you can even sign up for notifications [11:25] Will do. [11:26] hmmm [11:26] ki2azy: how's the backwoods? [11:26] nyRednek, its good i guess [11:27] ki2azy: i'm tempted to go fishing tomorrow [11:27] nyRednek, just trying to find out why my wireless was not connected this morning [11:27] ki2azy: no telling [11:27] nyRednek, sounds fun [11:28] ki2azy: yeah, mel makes me clean the ones she catches [11:28] nyRednek, i think the lights went out.. and this thing does not like to connects back....lol [11:28] -s [11:28] ki2azy: probably [11:28] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [11:28] ki2azy: you using wicd? or are you using networkManager? [11:29] nyRednek, to tell you the truth i don't know [11:29] ki2azy: or did you just manually put it in your rc.inet1.conf? [11:29] nyRednek, yep that one [11:30] nyRednek, it tries to connect after the router goes off but it fails [11:31] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [11:32] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:33] nyRednek, says association failed. [11:33] ki2azy: ah... [11:34] nyRednek, will not work until i reboot then its fine [11:34] nyRednek, that'll be some fun for another day [11:34] ki2azy: you should be able to run /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 again, and not have to reboot [11:34] thanks again people. bbl [11:35] Destructo (41585838@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.88.88.56) left irc: Quit: Page closed [11:35] nyRednek, tried that. didn't work [11:35] nyRednek, i think i got a setting wrong somewhere [11:35] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [11:35] ki2azy: maybe [11:36] nyRednek, but i can live with it.... til i get unlazy [11:37] ki2azy: heh [11:38] take it out of rc.inet1.conf and try wicd [11:38] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:38] alisonken1home: getting my brother to do something after he's declared himself lazy is damn near impossible [11:38] lol yep [11:39] anyone here from SBo? [11:39] nyRednek, well i am going to test mplayer and see how good it can render me a video :) [11:39] gniks: there's a channel for them... #slackbuilds [11:39] ki2azy: have fun with your bukkake vids [11:40] ah, didn't know that :p [11:40] nyRednek, well do [11:42] ki2azy: except wicd will handle multiple connections for you so you can be lazy [11:42] I've found lazy now means more work later [11:42] alisonken1home: i suggested that to him about 2 weeks ago... [11:43] hmm, i've noticed wicd a bit buggy [11:43] gniks: sup? [11:43] nyRednek, alisonken1home, i am looking into it now [11:43] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [11:43] alisonken1home: he'll eventually get tired of it and either put wicd or networkManager on [11:44] on some networks, it tries to obtain an ip and fails... but if i manually dhcpcd -d eth1 it assigns fine [11:44] nyRednek: do him a favor - take networkmanager away from him [11:44] phrag: o/ [11:44] hey bp =) [11:44] alisonken1home: NaCl has started talking about moving away from wicd to NetworkManager [11:45] BP{k}: nm here, just thinking of getting the dovecot SBo package updated [11:45] thanks for reporting that guy, dint get it till next day though sorry [11:45] fortunev (fortunev@SDF.ORG) joined ##slackware. [11:45] yes, I have [11:45] alisonken1home: maybe he's stopped talking about it, but at one point, it started to sound like wicd was going to EOL [11:46] gniks: . dovecot.info && echo $MAINTAINER [11:46] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@bl7-147-122.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:46] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [11:46] oh im well aware of the maintainer. he is a lil drama filled it seems [11:46] the source dot is far too small =P [11:46] if i run make using make -jN , then will make use 2 of my CPU cores? [11:46] gobi42 (~IceChat7@174-155-36-151.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [11:47] kickback: no. [11:47] make -j2i mean [11:47] just one stupid question though... does slack have it in the packages or do i got to download it? [11:47] nyRednek: wicd was never really my baby so much as wicd-curses was [11:47] -j2 [11:47] yes j2 [11:47] ki2azy: wicd is in the extra/ on the dvd [11:47] ki2azy: NetworkManager is on SBo [11:47] if you have a dual core processor -j4 is usually recommended for the fastest building :p [11:47] -j 9 is fun =) [11:47] -j is even more fun :p [11:48] especially if you're building the kernel, hehe [11:48] i have a core 2 duo so i guess i should use j4? [11:48] sure [11:48] i build kde with -j7 [11:48] okies [11:48] kickback: -jX will run "X" jobs simultaneously (which may or may not relate to the ammount of cores you have. However if you have 2 cores .. -j2 will use both cores. [11:48] phrag: what kind of machine you have? [11:48] nyRednek, ah going to make me go get my other hd for the iso :( ....nevermind i got the website for that [11:48] cen___ (~cen@pool-96-246-3-39.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:48] ki2azy: you can also use slackpkg to install it [11:48] gniks: i7 920 @ 3.8GHz / 6G DDR3 [11:48] oh very nice [11:48] stephen_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-102-175.consolidated.net) joined ##slackware. [11:49] ki2azy: slackpkg install wicd [11:49] noob question! Just switched to Slackware from Ubuntu, and choose 64bit. 1. will video encoding show improovement? will some Slackbuild pkgs not work on a 64bit system? [11:49] nyRednek, that would be easy [11:49] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.248) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:49] gniks: my last was a P4 2.6... it ran 24/7/356 for 5 years.. was time to upgrade =P [11:49] BP{k}: -j2 will use two cores yes, but if a thread is waiting on something like disk access, it is usually faster to have another thread waiting to use CPU time [11:49] fortunev: yes [11:49] fortunev: but not enough to make much of a difference [11:49] foldy (~foldy@mail.foldy.org) left irc: Quit: Odcházím [11:49] fortunev: you will have to go multilib if you want to run 32 apps (like wine, skype for example) [11:50] |Slacker| (~cris@201.86.46.176.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:50] i just went ahead and making gnumeric using -j4 [11:50] google earth. [11:50] phrag: that was definitely a nice upgrade. I really want to get a new i7 macbook pro, but can't afford it right now :( [11:50] fortunev: a few of the slackbuilds will need to be modified to compile with multilib install [11:50] gniks: not another mac fan! [11:50] i am surrounded by them [11:50] NaCl, nyRednek Thanks! [11:50] i'm the only one in my linux team actually reppin' linux! =P [11:50] phrag: i only run mac for my desktop& the OS is clean and unix based :) [11:51] my entire department are mac fans except one :p [11:51] gniks: yeh, i get that argument everyday, and how linux isnt ready for the desktop... bleh [11:51] but most of us run linux (me slackware) on our work computers [11:51] phrag: you could try and be a modern day Newton? [11:51] yay its using 100% of my CPU right now. it used only about 50% earlier ^_^ [11:51] i disagree, linux is very ready for the desktop [11:51] im just a bit lazier than most :p [11:51] phrag: you know ... "watching Apple fall of a desk and deduct things about gravity. ;) [11:51] BP{k}: what.. throw an apple off their head? [11:51] BP{k}: ahahaha [11:51] gniks: plan9 is clean and unix based, but i don't run it [11:52] phrag: or .. personally slightly more my favourite .. play William Tell ;-) [11:52] and considering ive never heard of plan9, there is probably good reason? [11:52] BP{k}: i'll see how that one go's down... like a deflated lead baloon i imagine =P [11:52] gniks: it's from bell labs, supposed to superscede unix [11:53] although one of the top bosses was up the otherday, and left his £1500 macbook on the desk... i threw qa juggling ball at my friend otherside of the office and failed... it missed his macbook by 1 inch o.0 [11:53] ah, well& :p if its anything like old school Unix licensing, it won't go far [11:53] is plan9 free? [11:53] as in freedom? [11:53] kickback, yes. [11:53] it's open source [11:53] phrag: that was probably good for you :p [11:53] i might as well try it then [11:54] kickback: i hope you have a lot of horsepower under the hood [11:54] most certainly... i still have a job! =P [11:54] anyone in my department would shoot the person to damage or even make a funny face at their mac :p [11:54] nyRednek: why? [11:54] oh look, its bloated :p [11:54] kickback: it's processor/memory intensive [11:54] THAT'S why you don't use it :p [11:55] gniks: i have a f'ing pII [11:55] nyRednek, just like kde4? [11:55] ki2azy: worse than kde4 [11:55] kde4 uses ~300mb of ram on my machine [11:55] also, rtir & ldap suck balls [11:55] nyRednek: and even the newest linux runs fine on it im sure :) [11:55] nyRednek, ouch [11:55] oh :P [11:55] gniks: the newest slackware, sure [11:56] well i wouldn't think you'd be running a busy web server with it [11:56] or the newest games [11:56] gniks: netBSD is actually better on it [11:56] 2.8GHz c2duo and 1 GB RAM, that should be enough [11:56] thats to be expected [11:56] but linux still handles its self well, and scales well& thats the beauty of its flexibility& bloated OS's are losing their place in the enterprise server industry [11:58] well i guess i am going to go out in the world in search of females....afk [11:58] lulz [11:58] dont' scare them too badly :p [11:59] gniks, i'll try not to [11:59] ki2azy: take care [11:59] don't forget your puncture repair kit [11:59] BP{k}: heh [12:00] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [12:00] omg, is this day not over yet [12:00] gobi42 (IceChat7@174-155-36-151.pools.spcsdns.net) left ##slackware. [12:00] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:00] phrag: no, it isn't [12:04] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:05] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:06] So is it too late to create a swap? I already have sda1 and sda2 created and dunno if it's worth the risk. [12:06] :'( And both partitions are filled with data. [12:07] Do you have any disk space left? [12:07] indubitableness (~Indubitab@adsl-99-97-139-103.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:08] Let me say this, no, it's not too late (with conditions) [12:08] miss_riss: you can make a swap file in your / [12:09] Won't going through the FS slow it down? [12:10] The thing is, remember, I have 500gb something like this, equally split in 250gb, each partition taken (one by ntfs and the other ext4). [12:10] I wanna cut a tiny portion to make swap. Just clarifying in case. [12:10] the NTFS partition [12:10] does it have windows? [12:10] which windows version? [12:11] I would shrink the ntfs partition in windows [12:11] and use the space to make the swap [12:11] unless you can live with a swap file [12:11] miss_riss: use the gparted disk to shrink [12:11] which would be faster [12:11] Windows XP SP3. [12:11] ok - gparted [12:11] A swap file would be faster? [12:11] Back up the data on one partition then repartition that partition into a swap and partition... [12:11] Or swap partition? [12:11] since it's on the same hard disk anyway I don't think it would slow it down any more than making a separate swap partition [12:12] I'll make a swap file then, how can I do that? [12:12] add you fstab entry and makeswap, swapon... [12:12] no - swap partition is faster - swap file is quicker to create right now [12:12] the only way a swap file or partition _doesn't_ slow it down is when it's on a separate drive [12:12] oops [12:12] like I'm on reddit [12:13] dd if=/dev/zero of=pathtoswapfile count=sizeyouwantinKB (then mkswap, then swapon) [12:13] Okay which partition should I steal from? ntfs or ext4? Which is faster? I don't want to take 10+ hours to do this. [12:13] Just 15 minutes. [12:14] if you're using gparted I'd say just shrink the ext4 [12:14] Alright. I'll do it soon. [12:14] Friggen windows man [12:14] I'm in windows again [12:14] once again because of disc image mounting problems [12:15] it's an iso file this time [12:15] the system refuses to acknowledge it's existence [12:15] So I'm just burning it to a CD in windows [12:15] yay windows [12:15] Risa, do you have an old drive that you could add? [12:15] arfon, nope. [12:15] I'm getting tired of disc image problems [12:15] No space. [12:15] how am I supposed to pirate games like this? [12:15] :( [12:16] i haven't pirated anything in a while. do people still use the word 'warez'? [12:16] nooper: people dont use it, kids do [12:17] Action: sinuhe imagines pirates with guns and swords forcing me to copy a non-free CD for the Windows system I don't have. Aaar! [12:17] Action: sinuhe returns to teaching [12:18] I haven't seen it in a long time nooper [12:18] nooper, no. [12:18] when you DO see it you kind of know to not touch anything from those places [12:19] sinuhe, lol cute. [12:19] AAARRR MATEY [12:19] heh [12:19] Is this incorrect or what?!? far = cel * 9 / 5 + 32; [12:19] Does the computer not know what to do? [12:19] alternatively, nooper could just ask kooneykay what he thinks of it ;) [12:20] Elfo (no_w@83.240.167.193) left ##slackware. [12:20] i thought kooneykay was a chick [12:20] esteeven (~esteeven@82.46.26.138) joined ##slackware. [12:21] Pirating is awesome [12:21] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-71-127-17-34.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:21] but I refuse to pirate linux native games [12:21] or windows games that have been ported to linux native [12:21] which means I never get to play them because I can't afford to buy them [12:21] nooper: he thinks that too. [12:21] lol [12:21] indubitableness: how many of those exist? [12:21] Well there's the LGP games [12:22] I've got X2: The Threat from them [12:22] and there's only three other games they've ported that I want [12:22] then there's the independent stuff like machinarium and "And So It Moves" [12:22] or whatever it's called [12:22] I can afford those but I don't have a bank account and I'm too lazy to get a money order [12:22] indubitableness: i still play doom and warcraft II [12:22] I end up going to the store and buying beer instead [12:23] I was never too into doom [12:23] but warcraft 2 is awesome [12:23] I SOLVED IT! [12:23] w00t [12:23] miss_riss: cool [12:23] what was wrong? [12:23] indubitableness: she wanted swap [12:24] nyRednek: HE [12:24] Not anymore, I don't want swap. NOt now at least, practicing C is more important. [12:24] I finally figured out why my fahrenheit isn't converting to celsius. [12:24] oh yeah that's right [12:24] oh [12:25] kickback, how did you get he? [12:25] miss_riss: ok... [12:25] order of operations? [12:25] always use parentheses [12:25] kickback: yeah, exactly how did you get he from miss_riss [12:25] never trust the machine to calculate [12:25] in the correct order [12:25] there was a discussion a few ddays ago [12:26] there are no girls on the internet anyway [12:26] machines always caculate in the correct order. its people who dont specify the order they need sometimes [12:26] kickback, discussion where I did not partake?! Very fascinating, talking behind my back about me without my knowledge, did I become famous? [12:26] nooper, not always, I found out from learning to make my own programming language. [12:26] ashtif (~ashtif@54009ED3.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:27] Check out shunter algorithms, you'll know what I mean when I say machines don't do the correct order, for they do not know. [12:27] miss_riss: nah, you were involved in the discussion alright [12:27] kickback, oh, when was this? [12:27] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [12:27] miss_riss: i was talking about the problem with your KDE desk. i'm lolwut from #kde [12:27] kickback: logs or it didn't happen [12:27] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [12:28] No results found for "shunter algorithms". [12:28] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [12:29] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunting-yard_algorithm [12:29] nyRednek, I remember, some guy named lulwut asked if I was that girl. I think it was the same person (kickback) who said I was a he and he insisted. I just say "oh okay I'm a he" or something like that. [12:29] Or you're lulwut? I forget who is who now, you change your name too much. [12:29] If you're a he, can I be a she? [12:30] Nick change: indubitableness -> whoami [12:30] elimisteve (~steve@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:30] heh [12:30] miss_riss: i didnt say youre a girl. someone else did [12:30] kidding [12:30] kickback, who? [12:30] Nick change: whoami -> indubitableness [12:30] |Slacker| (~cris@201.86.46.176.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Read error: No route to host [12:30] am I joining and parting? [12:30] miss_riss: i'm not lolwut [12:30] i think it was zordak [12:30] nyRednek: I am lolwut [12:30] Zordrak never said that. [12:30] alkos333 (~alkos333@64.134.164.32) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:31] If he did he's funny and an idiot at the same time (for that day). [12:31] You know what I love [12:31] ? [12:31] Friggen Slackware [12:31] miss_riss: i'm jewbacca, yosi, sysTray, presentationMana, and an assortment of other nicks [12:31] miss_riss: i dunno. it was someone whose name started with Z [12:31] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [12:31] get to boot back into it now [12:31] indubitableness (~Indubitab@adsl-99-97-139-103.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:32] also, there are no girls on the internet. only 40 year old paedophiles who dress up as skimpily dressed females in online games [12:32] kickback: that describes me to a T. [12:33] Nick change: Guest86794 -> cybErpunk [12:33] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Quit: (snt).. Reconnecting [12:33] eviljames, me too! I am 45 year old to be precise, and I dress up as skimpily dressed females like Aion to entice people like kickback. [12:33] cybErpunk (~davi@189.4.116.87) joined ##slackware. [12:33] cybErpunk (~davi@189.4.116.87) left irc: Changing host [12:33] cybErpunk (~davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [12:33] Just yesterday kickback was trying to cyber me. Oh I will never forget that day kickback. Unf. Unf unf. :) [12:33] indubitableness (~indubitab@adsl-99-97-139-103.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:33] |Slacker| (~cris@201.86.46.176.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:33] I mean I will never forget yesterday. [12:33] yosii brklynRednek AnonymousRednek nyRednek dark_djinn jewbacca KosherWookie Barfolomew jewcardi yellowTooth sysTray programManager presentationMana ibmRexx [12:34] i wasnt even online yesterday you sick pedo [12:34] those are my nix [12:34] hah [12:34] I'm just indubitableness [12:34] nyRednek: I'm very partial to jewbacca... it's pretty much my favorite [12:34] only only only [12:34] but jewcardi is pretty good too :P [12:34] and I am too evident to be doubted [12:34] eviljames: i like ot [12:34] eviljames: for you... [12:34] Herman (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [12:34] Nick change: nyRednek -> jewcardi [12:34] ... [12:34] Nick change: eviljames -> ass|hat [12:34] v4nelle (~van@78-185-25.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:34] That's my real nick [12:35] My real nick, I'll switch. [12:35] Nick change: miss_riss -> riza [12:35] oh, you're that guy riza eh? [12:35] Nick change: kickback -> sandnigga [12:35] ass|hat, yes I am that guy eh. [12:35] EOF, printing EOF is hard work. [12:35] oh c'est bon! [12:35] i am now a sandnigger [12:35] too mad invoked misses all this. [12:35] Action: jg71 shakes had ... shame shame shame [12:36] my original nick... [12:36] Nick change: jewcardi -> yosii [12:36] Nick change: sandnigga -> sickpedo [12:36] this one's better [12:36] cen___ (cen@pool-96-246-3-39.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [12:36] Nick change: yosii -> jewbacca [12:36] mmmm zucchini is good [12:38] eabeacer (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:38] I wish it would rain [12:38] all those places are flooding [12:38] I'll take some of that water [12:38] Over here please [12:39] gobi42 (~IceChat7@174-155-36-151.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [12:39] damn fone and yes riggs without insurace its only 60 days [12:40] _marc` (~marc@cl-3044.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:40] someone needs to tell htc to bring the increbile to sprint as a 3g fone [12:40] Cell phones are homosex [12:40] wait [12:40] cel fones r homosex [12:40] there [12:40] make it the hero 2 i bet they wouldn't be able to keep them in stock lol [12:41] gobi42 (IceChat7@174-155-36-151.pools.spcsdns.net) left ##slackware. [12:43] i hate cellphones with all my body including my peepee [12:44] amen to that [12:45] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7AE69.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:45] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [12:46] I'm being retarded.... fdupes blah > text.txt results in a broken pipe... What's the correct way to record fdupes results? [12:46] Can anyone tell me what the hell is symbolic constant? The bible does me no favor. [12:47] Over my head [12:47] Avagadro's Numer is a symbolic Constant :) [12:47] Number even [12:47] Axius (~fd@92.84.1.170) joined ##slackware. [12:47] So what does it do? [12:47] [waits for the chemsists fury] [12:48] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [12:48] is this line necessary while building mkisofs ' -sort isolinux/iso.sort \ '? [12:48] Action: arfon was joking... has no idea what a symbolic constant is. [12:48] hah [12:49] god damn it [12:50] wine is fighting me every step of the way with this game [12:51] Which game? [12:51] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [12:51] I've got this baldur's gate anthology collection [12:51] and part of it is this mod to convert the first game into the second game's engine [12:51] Did you use winetricks to install IE and other garbage it probably wants? [12:52] and the game works but the converter app tells me I need to patch the second game to the latest version [12:52] and the patch won't run [12:52] I guess I could try it [12:52] it usually doesn't help with older games [12:52] but I'll see what it does [12:52] I have found that patchers GENERALLY use IE... Get wine tricks and install IE [12:52] $prefix/wine [12:52] oops [12:52] password Pa$$word [12:52] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-3-119.kotinet.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:52] oops [12:53] hah [12:53] ;) [12:53] Okay. OKAY! [12:53] wut? [12:53] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:53] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-3-119.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [12:54] God I love winetricks [12:54] wut? [12:55] No more C today, I have been practicing for a few hours with some progress. Must relax by doing either math or Arabic. [12:55] I wish I had some weed [12:55] winetricks is a lovely thing. [12:55] I shall practice Arabic. [12:55] That's relaxing???? [12:55] hahaha [12:55] Yes. [12:55] relaxing for me is watching Spongebob [12:55] Axius (~fd@92.84.1.170) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:55] I already took like 1 year worth of Arabic. This stuff is fun. [12:55] I wish I could find studying languages relaxing [12:55] I need to learn spanish [12:56] never gonna happen [12:56] patch still doesn't run [12:56] gaaaay [12:56] gheeeey [12:56] What does google say about what you need? [12:56] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:57] I haven't checked [12:57] old games always give me the most trouble in wine [12:57] If it at least tried to run and crashed I could forgive it [12:58] VM buddy [12:58] but it just busts out that stock message [12:58] "This program is not working and you can go suck a dick about it buddy" [12:58] yeah [12:58] I don't like to rely on VMs though [12:58] are you staring it from a console? [12:58] VMs are for practice and work [12:58] yeah [12:59] Well, I got AO running by ALOT of googling. [12:59] AO? [12:59] Anarchy Online [12:59] ah [12:59] yeah I can usually just rely on the AppDB [12:59] wut? [13:00] if the game's not popular enough though no one updates it [13:00] esteeven (~esteeven@82.46.26.138) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:00] http://appdb.winehq.org [13:00] almost lunch.... wait for it... waaaaait fooor it... [13:00] And this is some mod so it's probably not going to be in there [13:01] As it is I can run both games [13:01] esteeven (~esteeven@82.46.26.138) joined ##slackware. [13:01] but the guy says the games are more fun if you upgrade the engine in the first one and add the mod for the engine to both of them [13:01] I've never been a huge fan of AD&D style games though so I probably won't even play it [13:01] I just want to get it running [13:01] Why? do you get a jet-pack or something? [13:01] to prove I can [13:02] I don't even know [13:02] sinedrio (~sinedrio@bl5-202-40.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:02] no clue [13:02] Sounds like a worthy quest with no real promise of a reward.... [13:02] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:02] Action: arfon opens OpenTTD.... [13:02] Lunch time.... BBL [13:03] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:03] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. 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[13:20] seems konqueror in KDE 4.5 has automatic adblock updates [13:22] yesyes (~yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) joined ##slackware. [13:23] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) joined ##slackware. [13:24] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. [13:26] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:26] boah, migration to kde4 is awful thing [13:27] everywhere I go people act like this patch is just supposed to install [13:27] I guess I'll compile wine 1.0.1 [13:27] and see what happens [13:28] vdv, in it's defense, kde4 has been out for years [13:28] Unless something's wrong with this exe file [13:28] thrice`, kde in 13.1 is faster and runs perfectly for me [13:29] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:29] whole system runs better [13:29] All I know about KDE is that I don't like it [13:29] indubitableness: yeah you like windows and wine. we get it [13:29] you seem qutie educated overall [13:29] indubitableness, i don't want to start debates now :) [13:29] quite* [13:30] Oh I'm not gonna debate [13:31] I just always hear people complaining about KDE3 versus KDE4 [13:31] which ones better and whatnot [13:31] most of it goes over my head [13:31] 'cause I don't use it [13:31] I like icewm [13:31] DaRkOoO (darkooo@unaffiliated/darkooo) joined ##slackware. [13:32] kde3 was a piece of shit, I don't know why people continue to think it was nice :> [13:32] and looked even worst than that [13:32] I gave it a chance [13:32] I really did [13:32] I gave it chance after chance [13:32] it was slow, bulky and in the way [13:32] I think I quit using it around 3.3. I like 4 quite a bit, minor issues or not [13:33] Out of the desktop environments [13:33] I'd say LXDE and XFCE impressed me the most [13:33] LXDE ran on old hardware nicely [13:33] and XFCE looked good [13:33] but the moment I used icewm on an old shitty laptop I had [13:33] I was in love [13:33] I'm not going to lie [13:34] windows 98 has long been my favorite operating system [13:34] lol [13:34] and that's why I liked icewm so much [13:34] after going through the minimalistic approach for a couple years, I'm back to enjoying DE's :> perhaps it'll change again [13:34] yeah [13:35] sometimes I just want to add a button without editing a configuration file [13:35] but then I just run the command for it [13:35] too lazy [13:35] I know if I put a tiling window manager on my laptop I'll be more productive on that machine [13:35] but again [13:35] too lazy [13:35] icewm's already set up [13:35] lxde looks even worst than kde3 imo [13:36] it does [13:36] it's ugly [13:36] but it runs better on low powered machines than xfce [13:36] It's rather impressive for a full desktop environment the kind of hardware you can run it on at a good speed [13:37] It was a Thinkpad 600E with 128 MB of ram and 333MHz processor [13:37] is low end hw all you got? you seem to much conserned about that [13:37] that dropped down to 90 MHz when the battery was low [13:37] it was my only laptop for like a year and half [13:37] bought it on ebay for 70 bucks [13:37] My desktop is a beast though [13:37] nothing super impressive [13:37] but it can certainly handle itself [13:38] I just use icewm on this machine 'cause I like it [13:38] I could run any DE I wanted on here though and not even make a dent [13:38] my laptop though [13:38] it helps keep the temps down [13:38] it's prone to overheating [13:38] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-11-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:38] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-163-126-80.range86-163.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:38] I need to get one of them cooling pads [13:39] elimisteve (~steve@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Peace [13:39] That thing is going to die a slow, unhappy heat death someday [13:39] morb (~morb@93-141-22-227.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:40] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:40] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-173-241-142.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:41] securekey (~securekey@blk-222-34-186.eastlink.ca) joined ##slackware. [13:41] morb (~morb@93-141-105-83.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [13:42] screw tjos [13:42] this [13:42] I'm scrapping this whole wineprefix [13:43] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. 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[13:50] of course it does [13:50] of course [13:50] why would anything work the way it's supposed to [13:50] that's not what computers are designed for [13:50] they're designed to piss me off [13:50] seriously, you are talking way too much [13:50] you now have my entire screen [13:50] my bad [13:50] lol [13:51] I get chatty when I'm aggrevated [13:51] have you attempted to google "convert dmg to iso" ? [13:52] wow new k3b [13:52] I shouldn't need to convert it [13:52] that's what fuseiso is for [13:52] ok, then don't [13:52] it always worked on 13.0 [13:52] but it's not working [13:52] linXea (~Slackytux@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:52] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Quit: Elektro [13:53] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [13:53] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:54] anyone successfully installed Guarddog on slackware 13.1 x86_64... if so, mind sharing the slackbuild file. Ive edited the existing for slackware 12.1 but since i don't have all those old KDE packages Im scewed. Any ideas would be appreciated [13:54] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host217-42-255-64.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:56] linXea: theres a kde3-compat/ dir in extra/ also you could just switch to another application that does the same. i would assume there are alternatives [13:56] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [13:56] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [13:57] sahko, it complains about gcc and well, more or less everything. I guess it's time for a change. What would be a "modern" alternative to the almighty guarddog [13:57] Okay going to reformat My Book, what format should I use? [13:57] It's for backup. [13:57] http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=my%20book&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1500&bih=530 [13:58] linXea: no idea. i dont even know what the almighty does [13:58] What's wrong with IPtables? [13:59] i wonder how every app runs so fast and reliable in 13.1 [13:59] graphics is faster [13:59] It is pretty weird huh? [13:59] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [13:59] is that KVM things? [13:59] everything seems faster [13:59] zplinux (~zplinux@213.8.57.217) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:00] nothing is wrong with iptables.. I just prefer having GUI for quick overlook. Guess I'll be back in the rc.firewall file again after all [14:00] oh it's a frontend huh? [14:00] linXea, usually, an app still needing qt3 and friends is a bad sign :) [14:00] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:00] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:00] http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-networking/10993-anyone-know-good-iptables-front-end.html [14:01] there's a thread about other iptables alternatives [14:01] not sure if they have slackbuilds [14:01] thank you very much [14:01] just have to find one without any nasty gnome-deps [14:01] looks like shorewall does [14:01] theres no such thing as a linux alternative to iptables, is there? [14:01] http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=Shorewall&sv=13.1 [14:01] I can't recommend any of these though I've never used them [14:02] Not that I've heard of sahko [14:02] well, thats what you said [14:02] vdv, I noticed that too. [14:02] oops [14:02] i meanty [14:02] iptables front ends [14:02] alternatives to guarddog [14:03] riza: in fact new system is a lot faster [14:03] riza: i thought that it's because i didn't installed any new packages yet [14:03] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [14:03] Howdy [14:03] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [14:03] vdv, eh I dunno why. [14:03] welcome back [14:03] riza: but after installing same thing [14:03] firefox is faster [14:04] TY indubitableness [14:04] same version was in 13.0 for me [14:04] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-36-221.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:05] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:05] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [14:05] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:07] Jennifur (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:09] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:10] hm, correct me if Im wrong but shorewall is still just cli ? [14:10] I wouldn't even know [14:10] I just googled "iptables frontend" [14:10] Which i suppose isn't much help [14:10] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:10] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@cpc3-leic3-0-0-cust792.8-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:10] iptables confuses me a lot too [14:10] gbit (~no@unaffiliated/gbit) joined ##slackware. [14:10] quicktables is your friend [14:11] but I just read the man page everytime I have to use it [14:11] and then take two hours to figure out what I need to do [14:11] hah [14:11] gosh, I'll just use good 'ol iptables without any frontend then [14:11] oxiredo_ro (~dumped@89.123.167.189) joined ##slackware. [14:11] gbit (no@unaffiliated/gbit) left ##slackware. [14:12] DURgod (~DURgod@24-247-210-79.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:12] DURgod (~DURgod@24-247-210-79.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:12] quicktables looks cool [14:13] better than my way of taking forever [14:13] http://freshmeat.net/projects/quicktables/ [14:14] why dont you just write your iptable rules by hand? [14:14] best way to learn it right there [14:14] I use quick tables to get a base file then I tweek. [14:15] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) joined ##slackware. [14:15] Better way to learn because you can immediately see how things are done... [14:15] i use "iptables-save" and "iptables-restore" to save my current iptables configuration [14:15] I'll have to check that out [14:16] ScreamerX, because I have a lot of rules .. well, better get to work. (there are no shortcuts appearently) [14:16] I always struggle to understand what I'm doing in almost any networking application [14:16] ScreamerX, huh iptables-save isn't supported in slackware afaik.. You have to use the rc.firewall file ? .. ah anyways [14:16] networking is my weak point [14:17] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:18] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:18] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:19] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:19] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:19] gorillanobaka (~gorilla@host86-186-37-150.range86-186.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [14:20] hello everyone....gorilla`s home [14:20] howdy [14:21] linXea: and my rc.filrewall file basically does: iptables-restore :) [14:21] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.93) joined ##slackware. [14:21] ScreamerX, yes, but then you have "told" your rc.firewall to do that =) [14:22] by default it won't do that [14:23] I see iptables-save and -restore in my /usr/sbin [14:23] what do you mean they're not supported? [14:23] the "tools are there" ... just not in the rc.firewall as default... I was unclear before [14:24] oh [14:24] okay [14:25] yesyes (~yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:25] guys... just a quick question if i may... [14:26] shoot [14:27] why in the world slackware 13.1 does not have any sound at all whenever i boot into fluxbox?? I mean i really love fluxbox...KDE suck big time on my 7 years old laptop [14:27] is it the only window manager without sound? [14:27] have you heard sound on this install? [14:27] yup kde works flawless [14:27] hrm [14:27] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) joined ##slackware. [14:27] try alsamixer [14:28] gorillanobaka: did you alsaconf? [14:28] and alxaconfig [14:28] maybe the default settings are too low [14:28] and m to unmute the [14:28] Can anyone here dance? [14:28] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-nowecmxvlkzmgkhw) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:28] thm [14:28] them [14:28] I can skank, riza [14:28] only dance I know [14:28] i can dance riza [14:28] lol [14:28] dance is our middle name [14:29] gorillanobaka, really? Grinding isn't dancing. [14:29] indubitableness: cheers mate... :P the settings too low hih hih... [14:29] as a gorilla i have my limitations... [14:29] Ska dance? lol [14:29] acidchild (ash@septic.7a69.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:29] Awkward dancing. [14:29] anyone know a company that makes 3 VGA graphics cards? [14:30] 2 or 3 display outputs. [14:30] it is pretty awkward riza [14:30] totally unromantic [14:30] GrooveDroid (default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:30] a lot of fun though [14:30] lol [14:30] oh sweet it worked gorillanobaka? [14:31] the first time I've ever actually helped someone in a while [14:31] GrooveDroid (default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:32] wertik_rus (wertik@95-26-36-221.broadband.corbina.ru) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:32] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-36-221.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:32] YAY! indubitableness is useful! [14:32] hah [14:32] see how long that lasts [14:32] I usually get yelled at for talking too much [14:33] Unbelievable... 4GB of physical memory and it still runs out and deadlocks. [14:33] whoa [14:34] what you running GrooveDroid? [14:34] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:34] Slackware 13.1 [14:34] KDE 4 [14:34] And... Eclipse and Opera. [14:34] hah! [14:34] The main culprits. [14:34] But 4GB, come on! [14:34] weren't we talkin' about that earlier [14:34] yeah that's kind of unacceptable [14:34] What's most unacceptable is that the kernel simply deadlocks. [14:35] Harddrive led stays on (even though I don't even have swap!) and it barely responds. [14:35] you running the huge kernel? [14:35] Had to reboot. [14:35] Pretty much, though I rebuilt it. [14:35] That is really weird [14:35] sorry everyone... i was on the pohone [14:36] Well, this happens on all my machines when I run out of memory, never really heard anyone else about it. [14:36] indubitableness: of course it did not.. [14:36] But it's pretty silly, I'd prefer Linux to kill off random stuff above this. [14:36] had it been that easy,,,... [14:36] artvdroid (~androirc@26.sub-70-217-105.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [14:37] gorillanobaka: did you run alsaconfig? [14:38] artvdroid (~androirc@26.sub-70-217-105.myvzw.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:38] see arfon [14:38] so i don`t know.. it`s quite funny it seems like slackware gets to be more like ubuntu.. as soo as you go away from the main stream "the aproved desktop manager" you are on your own..BUt even funnier is the fact that Fluxbox was suppoed to be supported by the slackware..I mean it comes on the DVD and all that/... [14:38] my usefulness was but an illusion [14:38] WHOA [14:38] blasphemer! [14:38] gorillanobaka: not entirely true. See, you don't get support for KDE either :D [14:38] gorillanobaka: did you run alsaconfig? [14:39] arfon: that was one of the first thing i have done followed by alsamixer and pressing m to unmute the stuff [14:39] GrooveDroid: really?' [14:39] slackware is you're on your own [14:39] period [14:39] Did alsaconfig detect a chipset? [14:39] that's what's so great about it [14:39] but sometimes things get tedious [14:40] indubitableness: yup it did detected the chipset [14:40] indubitableness: that`s what makes it so nice ubnlike it`s browniness ubuntu [14:40] are those drivers loaded when you do an lsmod? [14:41] i suppose soo arfon i will have to check... thanks for the suggestion [14:41] Just walking you through the steps [14:42] If they are loaded, do you hear static when you cat ANYFILE > /dev/dsp? [14:43] i will have to check that one... [14:43] Do it [14:43] bust out a terminal [14:43] fix it [14:44] hih hih.. the terminal is busy with irssi now...but i am writing down the suggestions [14:44] screen is your friend [14:44] you can open multiple terminals [14:44] amen tot hat [14:45] i know... [14:46] so lemme ask you something... everyone is running KDE on their slacware?? why in the world ... it is SO bloated [14:46] ........ [14:46] Since you are writing this down... if the drivers show loaded but no static when you cat, it's probably a volume problem... If you hear static when you do cat, it's probably a fluxbox problem or something like that [14:46] arfon: thanks mate... [14:46] I use icewm [14:46] KDE can suck a dick [14:46] You might also wanna look up what the souncd chipset it and make sure it was detected correctly by Alsaconfig. It COULD be that you disabled sound in BIOS. [14:47] <---xfce [14:47] XFCE is so pretty [14:47] yeah... pretty FAST! [14:47] :P [14:47] hah [14:47] it's true! [14:48] when I want fast, I load twm [14:49] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-36-221.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:49] IMHO, KDE is better than Gnome [14:49] I kind of agree [14:49] but I don't really know enough about either of them to be certain [14:49] If they could just fix that damned Akaomi (sp?)! [14:49] I just assume that if the slackware devs aren't packaging gnome there's got to be a good reason [14:50] not really, mostly man power [14:50] Last time I used it, it was all eyecandy [14:50] thanks guys... [14:50] much apreciated... [14:50] Someon send gorillanobaka his bill... [14:50] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.123) joined ##slackware. [14:50] that'll be fifteen thousand... wait... ONE BILLION DOLLARS [14:50] (you know I'm kidding right?) [14:51] pay to the order of indubitableness [14:51] i will get back later in here ,i gotta go for a ffried chicken run... [14:51] mmm [14:51] fried chicken [14:51] zux (~zux@balticom-130-134.balticom.lv) joined ##slackware. [14:51] |Slacker| (~cris@201.86.46.176.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:51] I love ffried chicken [14:51] linXea (~Slackytux@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Quit: Did you cut the PoWaH bitch ? [14:51] fffried is even better [14:51] hah [14:51] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [14:52] i have a question about installing APC powerchute, if i run it as user, the installer runs, but tells me i must log in as root, but as root, it won't run at all [14:53] sounds like a rock and a hard place... [14:53] does it refuse to run using sudo? [14:53] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:53] i'm not in sudoers, do i need to be? [14:53] is there a group associated with the application? [14:53] not that i know [14:53] I would kind of expect it to just be like "won't run as root" even with sudoers [14:53] usus12jari (~ashe@118.96.239.112) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:53] but if it created a group when you installed it [14:54] check /etc/group for a group associated with it [14:54] no, it's the installer i can't run [14:54] oh [14:54] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [14:54] I've never heard of it [14:54] what is it? [14:54] software for managing APC UPS [14:55] nachox (~Ignacio@OL147-242.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:55] personal edition or business? [14:55] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:55] VeinJu (~Rockfelle@bas4-montreal45-1279574514.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:55] hmm [14:55] Hey guys [14:55] PowerChute Business Edition v7.0.5 Agent for Linux [14:55] is the installer a .run file? [14:56] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.225.202.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:56] what does it tell you when you try to run it as root? [14:56] looks like i can run it with sudo [14:56] Speaking of that... What is the best thing to use to monitor my APC UPS thorugh the serial port? [14:56] it's a .bin file [14:56] Hi VeinJu [14:56] I know my question is not in the right place, but I asked in linux and I got no answer [14:56] did using sudo fix it? [14:56] yes [14:56] I wouldn't even know arfon [14:56] WEIRD [14:56] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [14:56] oh cool [14:57] that is weird [14:57] i added myself to sudoers and could run it [14:57] Action: arfon takes notes [14:57] ping phrag [14:57] You guys know a sophisticate linux distrib who works only in a terminal ? [14:57] though it would be because of display, but i tried to run it as root like this: DISPLAY=:0.0 ./pbe_.... [14:57] There's no friendly little linux app to watch for shutdown notifications from a serial port from a UPS? [14:57] but that didn't work [14:58] VeinJu, how about slackware? [14:58] maybe it's designed that way since most businesses don't install software as root [14:58] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:58] arfon: um, yes, it's included in most every distro [14:58] padhu (~padhu@112.79.227.113) left irc: Quit: Going to bed, Will be back soon.............. [14:58] but rather as a privileged user [14:58] ViniciusPXMB: Slackware -the X files [14:58] arfon: apcupsd [14:58] Action: arfon hugs adaptr [14:58] VeinJu I'm not sure what you're asking [14:58] hug the google, arfon [14:58] but yes [14:58] use slackware [14:58] it needs moar lurv [14:59] The google does not hug back :( [14:59] VeinJu: Slackware minux the X apps [14:59] It doesn't hug me either. [14:59] minus [14:59] In fact it looks at me with money in the eyes. [14:59] :( google just mocks me [15:00] Slackware is my distrib of choice if I dont got any other choices, I just like to have some alternative [15:00] VeinJu: Ok, Slax in text mode [15:00] What are you looking for specifically VeinJu? [15:00] I dont like GUI since I use linux [15:00] VeinJu, why would you want alternatives after slackware? :) [15:01] v4nelle (~van@78-185-25.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:01] VeinJu: Slackware IS your best choice [15:01] all other major distros rely HEAVILY on X [15:01] oxiredo_ro (~dumped@89.123.167.189) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:01] rafu (rafu@77.53.11.93) left ##slackware. [15:01] Little distros won't have the base that you want. [15:02] zux, because I dont know slackware too much, and I know it maintained by only one man, or a little group [15:02] VeinJu: and yet, that hasn't stopped it from being one of the most stable distros [15:02] VeinJu, i see that as a plus, that it's maintained by one person... [15:03] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-68-122.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:03] Most of us do [15:04] zux, there is no risk of it being abandoned ? [15:04] Yeah group managed distros have done so well... [15:04] Some of them fell apart due to infighting. [15:04] jemark (~mark@86-40-58-161-dynamic.b-ras2.blp.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [15:04] Sure but there's enough Rabid Slackers that someone would pick up after Pat. [15:04] VeinJu Slackware is the oldest linux distribution currently being maintained [15:04] well yeah, if something happens to slackware, i'll think then about it [15:05] if it was going to be abandoned it would have been abandoned years ago [15:05] all other distros have the same chance to be abandoned, except maybe debian [15:06] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-173-241-142.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:06] nice, so I think I will try Slackware today. I use kubuntu right now [15:06] they're not going to be abandoned, too many enterprise players have investments in them [15:06] adaptr, i don't think it means much [15:06] if it's buisness [15:07] that's avgue [15:07] *vague [15:07] at the moment someone will think it will never earn money [15:07] they will be abandoned [15:07] I wasn't talking about earning money [15:07] we are talking about enterprise distributions [15:08] torves (~torves@189.104.180.38) joined ##slackware. [15:08] like redhat, suse [15:08] major players like HP, Novell and IBM are *phsyically* invested in Linux - their systems depend on it. they, by the way, contribute most of the core development these days [15:08] to linux [15:08] not to some specific distribution, right? [15:08] one day Debian will become corporate and it will go away also... [15:08] none of those companies use a bare Linux kernel [15:08] :) [15:08] well, except for vmware, maybe [15:08] arfon: never [15:09] vmware is so overpriced [15:09] maybe, but I'm not paying :) [15:09] Never? [15:09] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:09] arfon, well i'd still say there is the same possibility for them to get abandoned as slackware [15:10] Oracle won't get their hands on debian like Novel and Suse? [15:10] Nick change: torves -> slesh [15:10] debian has been around much longer [15:11] Debian might decide to offer Enterprise linux and spin off their distro as a project, ala redhat [15:11] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:11] and it's entirely volunteer based, no? [15:11] Mowah (1000@c-1e87e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:11] slesh (torves@189.104.180.38) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [15:11] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [15:12] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:12] Debian is too up it's own ass about the community owned nature of... itself [15:12] which I respect [15:13] not enough to not refer to it as being "up it's own ass" [15:13] but enough to hope it stays that way [15:13] Wasn't there a time when debian almost fell apart due to infighting? [15:13] Which time? [15:13] hah [15:13] then they re-organized...? [15:13] So. [15:13] they're always squabbling over one thing or another [15:13] I just rsynced a whole 300gb. [15:14] Pfft, tell me when you rsync a 1Tb.... [15:14] with 1mbit link [15:15] :( [15:15] Yeah boy! 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[15:26] Yeah that one was bad [15:27] ashtif (~ashtif@54009ED3.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) joined ##slackware. [15:30] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) joined ##slackware. [15:30] http://cardinal.lizella.net/~vbatts/downloads/updates/vim/ has the 7.3.00 release for those interested [15:30] cooool [15:32] Hey. [15:33] I have been redditing for two hours [15:33] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@cpc3-leic3-0-0-cust792.8-1.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Quit Message [15:33] I need to stop [15:33] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-65-157.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:33] AEnima1577 (~asdfjkl@cpe-098-026-093-093.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:34] vbatts, not for x86? [15:35] ashtif (~ashtif@54009ED3.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:36] hello I have a really old sony viao netbook circa early 1990s... there is only a telephone style network connection, so I did a minimal install [15:36] I am trying to get an additional wireless pcica card to work [15:36] what model card? [15:36] I can see that the card is reconanized.... [15:36] good [15:36] You just can't figure out how to connect it? [15:37] I will have to go check and get back to you later, I am not near that computer currently [15:37] yea [15:37] do you know how to use ifconfig, iwconfig, and dhcpcd? [15:37] ashtif (~ashtif@54009ED3.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) joined ##slackware. [15:37] in one of my other installs I used sbopkg to install wicid (sp?) [15:37] I would skip wicid [15:37] all the tools you need to connect are there [15:37] it's like this [15:37] I know fedora 11 or 10's usage of ifconfig [15:38] use ifconfig to make sure the connection is up [15:38] wicd is good for roaming [15:38] like [15:38] ifconfig wlan0 up [15:38] jemark: ... hmm. let me fire up a virtual machine. [15:38] unless it's called something else like ath0 [15:38] or wlan1 [15:38] then do like [15:38] zux (~zux@balticom-130-134.balticom.lv) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:38] iwconfig wlan0 essid nameofconnection key off [15:38] if it has a key type the key instead of off [15:39] off is for open connections [15:39] thanks dive and indubitableness, I will get back to you once I have the netbook back in front of me [15:39] then do [15:39] dhcpcd wlan0 [15:39] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.39.102) joined ##slackware. [15:39] and you can use iwlist to scan for connections [15:39] like [15:39] did you guys read about those dutch guys who made a wifi sniffing drone? [15:39] iwlist wlan0 scan [15:39] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:39] I vaguely recall hearing about that [15:39] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) joined ##slackware. [15:39] my friend says he wants an airforce of them [15:40] i think they'd be cooler as mobile access points [15:40] have anybody umtsmon sb building experience? [15:40] so you could setup a network in a disaster area [15:40] that's how he wants to modify them [15:40] ah [15:40] hah^ [15:45] gorillanobaka (~gorilla@host86-186-37-150.range86-186.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Changing server [15:50] jemark: i'll ping the channel when the ix86 packages are there [15:52] vbatts, cool, thanks [15:53] ALRIGHT I'm about to make the major decision. Skywise, what partition should I make my backup? [15:53] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-431683.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [15:53] It's for "My Book". I'm about to wipe everything clean and give the partition ext4 or ntfs. [15:54] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-431683.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:54] Action: arfon picks the external USB drive.... [15:54] Yeah but what partition?/ [15:54] D: [15:54] do you mean what file system? [15:54] The last partition.... [15:55] Ask me why... [15:55] yesyes (~yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:55] if its usb, then it should prolly be fat32/vfat [15:55] i typically use the first for swap and rest for data [15:55] Action: arfon puts swaps in the middle (less seek times) [15:56] Mowah (1000@c-1e87e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [15:59] I don't even use swap [16:00] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:00] i keep swap as an insurance policy [16:00] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [16:00] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] whats 10gb of a tb drive [16:01] 11% [16:01] wow [16:01] err 1.1 [16:01] % [16:01] not 1, anwyay [16:01] nothing [16:01] two 4.7DVDs [16:01] you wouldn't miss it tho [16:02] :) I use swap too, for the same reason [16:03] risa, since you (didn't) ask, the last partition on the drive is on the outter edges which spin faster so the data is recorded over a larger area so the's a slightly better chance that the data won't go bad there.... [16:04] I could fit Shrek 1 and 2 in your 10Gb.... [16:05] arfon: nonsense. hard drives write from the outside inwards. the first sector is on the outer edge. [16:05] jemark (~mark@86-40-58-161-dynamic.b-ras2.blp.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [16:06] It's not nonsense! I crunched bothe Shrek movies down from 8Gb to less than 4.7Gb... I can EASILY fit those in Sky's 10Gb partition..... [16:07] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [16:07] ..and come to think of it, I think you are right about the disc geomerty... 1st partiton then. [16:08] sinedrio (~sinedrio@bl5-202-40.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:09] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left irc: Quit: [A] kill what you want me to, take what's left and eat it [16:09] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) joined ##slackware. [16:09] have anybody experience with building umtsmon slackbuild? [16:11] You know what I had a lot of trouble building [16:11] TILP2 [16:11] arfon: your thinking is immaterial. hard drives have written this way since they were invented [16:12] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:12] fortunev (fortunev@SDF.ORG) left irc: Quit: Hey! Where'd my controlling terminal go? [16:12] could not get that to run [16:13] m3tti (~user@p57B7AE69.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:14] arfon: not only that, modern hard drives (everything over at least the last 10 years) use non-linear recording: the bit density is pretty much identical across all tracks [16:14] Action: jg71 dances the pependicular dance [16:14] so the outer edges move significantly faster under the heads compared to the inner edge, ergo the throughput is about 60% higher on the outside [16:15] perpendicular recording increases bit density. it does not affect anything else [16:15] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.25.139) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [16:15] i was dancing, not arguing, fool. [16:15] ;) [16:16] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:17] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.30.119) joined ##slackware. [16:17] Mowah (1000@c-1e87e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:17] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-65-157.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [16:18] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-65-157.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:20] hmm [16:21] You know, it is suprisingly hard to find a webpage that outright says where in a platter cylinder 0 is.... [16:22] thats cos (i bet) it's a firmware issue how to deal with that. that, and you gotta trust what the firmware tells you. [16:22] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:24] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [16:24] How do I format to ext4? D: [16:25] mkfs.ext4 [16:28] arfon: in modern drives, physical location is not hard-set. there are spares. there are tracking cylinders (to keep the heads tracked) [16:28] arfon: the PC guide (free online) has too much info [16:29] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:29] I'll have to look at that after I get off this console connection. [16:30] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-55-136.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:30] m3tti (~user@p57B7AE69.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:30] i noticed that some rc.* scripts don't execute at startup in 13.1 but are executable [16:31] jaminja (~jaminja@74.81.170.4) joined ##slackware. [16:31] for example rc.postgresql [16:31] or rc.dictd [16:31] that's because nothing outside of 'official' slackware scripts get called [16:31] if you want to load them, add a clause to rc.local [16:31] rc.local? [16:32] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7AE69.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:32] okay [16:34] DURgod (~DURgod@24-247-210-79.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:35] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@97-127-222-25.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [16:35] zaythan (~zaythan@ip98-166-81-162.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:35] if you see Pat's init script, he doesn't call *anything* in rc.d/ with +x, but checks individually [16:35] howdy all [16:36] DURgod (~DURgod@24-247-210-79.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:38] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:38] Hi zaythan [16:43] indubitableness (~indubitab@adsl-99-97-139-103.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:44] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [16:45] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:45] indubitableness (~indubitab@adsl-99-70-105-115.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:46] mkfs.ext /dev/sdg1 [16:46] IS THIS WRONG? [16:46] mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdg1 [16:46] jaminja (~jaminja@74.81.170.4) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [16:47] if there's data on it you would like to keep [16:47] I've already killed it. [16:50] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [16:52] tekzilla (~jon@d031231.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:53] tekzilla (~jon@d086233.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [16:54] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:54] ufuk_k (~ufuk@unaffiliated/ufukkilicaslan/x-898496) joined ##slackware. [16:56] sinedrio (~sinedrio@bl7-44-171.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:02] riza (~risah@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: riza [17:06] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:06] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:07] good evening slackers :-) [17:07] macavity: hi :) [17:07] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) joined ##slackware. [17:07] hi [17:08] anyone know a good hard drive data recovery specialist? [17:08] company or individual [17:08] ouch.. that doesnt sound good :-/ [17:08] i'm Mircrosoft Certified HDDR Specialist :D [17:09] right.. and i am President Kennedy :P [17:09] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-200.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:09] hy abraham lincon [17:10] stinky, sorry for irony, i just hate microsoft certifications :) [17:10] well, my dad's hard drive failed after i warned him numerous times to let me set up a backup system. [17:10] don't we all [17:10] jaminja (~jaminja@74.81.170.4) joined ##slackware. [17:10] .w 11 [17:10] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [17:11] i'm looking at this site.. http://www.intellirecovery.com/data_recovery_services.html [17:13] did you pass out yet, stinky ? [17:13] the only thing is that I am weary of who to use because the hard drive contains sensitive information [17:13] hrm thats a pity data recovery with my hd is imposible :-( [17:13] twofish is keeping an eye on it XD [17:14] my say data recovery specialist and it's johnny jihad on the other end. :P [17:14] jg71: ? [17:14] ikar (~ikar@103.223.34.95.customer.cdi.no) joined ##slackware. [17:14] stinky: nevermind, you had it coming ;) [17:16] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.118.30) joined ##slackware. [17:17] no [17:18] this one looks promising [17:18] http://www.drivesaversdatarecovery.com/ [17:19] look, if you are sincerely looking for hdd recovery you gotta open your pocket. [17:20] i didn't expect not to [17:20] that site looks good as they actually have manufacturer authorization with dell [17:20] well, this is the wrong place to ask for stuff like that. people in here keep backups or are sane enough not to tell about not having em. [17:21] and iso 5 certified clean rooms [17:21] jg71: it was my dad's computer. [17:21] stinky: ok sorry, another matter. [17:21] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:22] best of luck. still ... [17:22] thanks [17:22] AppDeb (~AppDeb@77.49.33.126.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:25] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [17:27] stinky: the only thing i know about this topic is that you get what you pay for [17:27] stinky: find a bloody expencive one, and show your dad the price tag.. then he has instalearned to make backups.. trust me ;-) [17:28] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [17:28] ok.. time to go -current :-) [17:29] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host217-42-255-64.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:31] thus spake macavity, never to be seen again.... [17:31] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [17:31] quoth the raven, 404, give him back his cheap hardcore! [17:32] well, it's gonna cost between 700 and 2700 $ [17:32] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.93) joined ##slackware. [17:32] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.93) left irc: Client Quit [17:32] LostMyNick (~xterm@just.use.xterm.co.cc) joined ##slackware. [17:33] DarkHack (darkhack@unaffiliated/darkhack) left irc: Quit: The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? [17:35] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:35] ikar (~ikar@103.223.34.95.customer.cdi.no) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:35] _marc` (~marc@cl-3044.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:36] ikar (~ikar@103.223.34.95.customer.cdi.no) joined ##slackware. [17:37] LostMyNick (~xterm@just.use.xterm.co.cc) left irc: Quit: The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? [17:38] ikar (~ikar@103.223.34.95.customer.cdi.no) left irc: Client Quit [17:40] DarkHack (darkhack@unaffiliated/darkhack) joined ##slackware. [17:40] ikar (~ikar@103.223.34.95.customer.cdi.no) joined ##slackware. [17:40] LostMyNick: ok, that is some exit statement you have yourself there :P [17:40] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [17:40] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:42] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [17:42] does anyone know what kernel Pat is using in pre -current? [17:43] LostMyNick: i've found it. [17:43] you mean 13.1? [17:44] no, i know what version 13.1 uses :p [17:45] i suppose it was in /dev/null .. sorry [17:45] then when exactly is pre -current? [17:45] anyhow, uptodate -current is still on 2.6.33.4 :P [17:45] 2.6.33.4 is in 13.1 and current, but patrick and his team test software before they even release it to -current, this includes new kernels [17:46] the last i knew they were testing 2.6.34.1 but im not sure if they went along with 2.6.35 or not [17:46] hi [17:46] i dont think they are going to bump kernels untill the next enterprise-lenght-supported kernel comes out [17:46] im pretty sure they will [17:46] esteeven (~esteeven@82.46.26.138) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:46] a lot gets fixed in 6-10 months [17:47] you can ask rworkman [17:47] Hi ikar [17:47] or alienBOB [17:47] i wonder about if it's possible to do menu.conf on current kernel? [17:47] yeah, rworkman is afk currently [17:47] ikar: menu.conf==menuconfig? [17:48] he means grub [17:48] Oh! menu.lst [17:48] i mean kernel modifications [17:48] ikar: make menuconfig? [17:48] oh, menuCONFIG [17:48] heh [17:48] yes, macavity , i think [17:49] *g* [17:49] ikar: For an updated kernel? You have to make oldconfig first. [17:49] sure.. that is an integral function of the kernel buildsystem [17:49] sinuhe: you don't have to [17:49] only for upgrades like he said [17:50] i want to change from generic to custom kernel, thats why [17:50] even with an upgrade you don't have to, depends on what your trying to do [17:50] ikar, there are some kernel compilation guids on slackwiki.org I believe. Have a good read of those. [17:50] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:50] ikar: zcat /proc/config.gz > .config && make oldconfig (hold down enter untill it stops) && make menuconfig [17:50] ikar: and mod to your hearts contend [17:51] macavity, that's my fix for everything -> 'Hold down enter until it stops' ;) [17:51] ikar: the above takes for granted that you are in the unpacked source dir of the new kernel [17:51] dive: yup :-) [17:51] Ok. Thanks, macavity & dive! [17:51] dont works so well in the car though [17:51] :-) [17:52] lol [17:52] hehe [17:52] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7AE69.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:52] "just clamp the speeder to the floor untill you are out of the dangerous situation!" :P [17:52] -- The Driving Teacher From Hell [17:52] ikar, also be sure to leave the stock kernel in lilo so you can boot up with it when the custom one goes wrong [17:52] m3tti (~user@p57B7AE69.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:52] dive++ [17:53] dive, ok, tnx for the tip! [17:53] np [17:53] nachox (~Ignacio@OL147-242.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [17:54] i always keep an entry to the original hugesmp that the system shipped with.. even when on -current i keep one for the system that it once was [17:54] yep [17:54] oldconfig asks questions for a reason... [17:54] I didn't, but then forgot to run lilo and rebooted into the old kernel.. tehn fixed it and forgot to put the old one in. luckily, as you can see, the kernel functions :) [17:55] xdoctor (~bla@201.78.226.243) joined ##slackware. [17:55] now i will try to do i custom-kernel, good bye [17:56] good luck [17:56] thanks :) [17:56] ikar (~ikar@103.223.34.95.customer.cdi.no) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:57] rheault (~rheault@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [17:57] rheault (~rheault@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Client Quit [17:57] rheault (~rheault@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [18:00] spectre (~kyle@rrcs-71-42-182-234.sw.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:00] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:00] cen___1 (~cen@pool-96-246-3-39.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:01] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) joined ##slackware. [18:01] has slackware got wicd? [18:01] yes [18:01] it is in extra/ [18:02] that is, ftp.yourftpmirror.org/linux/slackware/slackware-13.1/extra/ or some such.. or on the DVD if you have it [18:03] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-431683.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:03] lol.. xfce is 12MB.. kdeedu is 43 :P [18:04] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:04] thanks [18:05] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-431683.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:06] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:06] Guest11045 (titan@support.team.at.shellium.org) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:06] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [18:07] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [18:07] spectre (~kyle@rrcs-71-42-182-234.sw.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:08] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:08] is there a browse url function in slackware emacs for lynx [18:09] emacs for lymx? [18:09] WTF? [18:09] lynx for emacs :P [18:09] edthix (~ed@115.135.182.46) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [18:09] They're two different pieces of software. [18:09] morb (~morb@93-141-105-83.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:09] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [18:09] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [18:09] there's also a w3m for emacs [18:10] but emacs has a feature to launch lynx with the url i want to open [18:10] emacs is more than a text editor [18:10] XD [18:10] dive: have you had any issues with alien's KDESC 4.5.0 packages? [18:10] m3tti, I don't really understand what you mean by 'browse url function' [18:10] besides kopete not closing [18:11] in emacs there are many browse url commands like [18:11] surely browsing an url is just what lynx is doing? [18:11] browse-url-mozilla [18:11] and there is also a browse-url-lynx function but it isn't in the slackware emacs [18:11] package [18:12] You want to configure EMACS to launch another browser of your choice when you invoke its browse URL function... add it. [18:12] m3tti: afaik the extentions you can get for emacs are close to incountable... [18:12] Guest53150 (titan@support.team.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [18:12] macavity, keyboard shortcuts and a problem with data lib when rightclicking on time in systray... but you should know that kde4.5 is compiled for -current and I'm experimenting with it on 13.1 [18:12] M-x shell [18:12] xxxterm [18:12] M-x Butterfly [18:13] m-x ansi-term [18:13] I missed the "Open Terminal Here" option for GNOME Nautilus when it disappeared. I wrote a Nautilus script and added it back myself. [18:13] thats my choice [18:13] dive: ah, i just upgraded to -current.. the opdates all looked inocent [18:13] ScreamerX: M-x pr0n [18:14] wth - xkcd has removed its search function?? [18:14] dive: seriously, all just standard incrimental updates [18:14] but i also use identica-mode on emacs and if someone posts an url i could just move the cursor to it [18:14] where do permissions for nfs get set? [18:14] i know about /etc/exports [18:14] but when i copy to an nfs mount, permissions get changed from 0777 to 0770 [18:14] i'm not sure why that change occurs on a copy. [18:14] macavity, yeah but I can't really say much about packages compiled on -current not working in 13.1 [18:14] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) joined ##slackware. [18:14] /var/tmp/crm 192.168.0.27(rw,sync,no_root_squash) [18:15] directory is rw [18:15] macavity, so I will just wait until it hits stable, or maybe try it on my current box [18:15] initself: i think that has something to do with umask [18:15] macavity, I'm just glad that those are the only problems I've found. [18:15] initself: however, i dont know if it is the client side or server side umaks you have to change [18:16] macavity: i think you are right [18:16] dive: roger.. ill give you an update on the state of -current [18:17] ok [18:17] inglor (~inglor@bb-87-80-175-146.ukonline.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:18] oh shit.. [18:18] These damn aircards are driving me nuts. If I insert them into an already running slackware, the appropriate device pops up in /dev. [18:18] If I reboot with them in it, when it comes back up, no device. [18:18] ata2: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0) [18:18] ata2: device not ready (errno=-16), forcing hardreset [18:18] What the hells is wrong here? [18:19] hello, i'd like to try slackware along with btrfs root FS. Anyone tried it? [18:19] macavity: umask on the server is 022 [18:19] that would not make world a 0 [18:19] ^^ that happens if i dont run hal-disable-polling --device /dev/sr0 [18:19] the client is AIX so i'm kind of clueless [18:20] initself: me too.. i just gave you the first thought that went into my head [18:20] I suppose the latest installation won't support by default btrfs so I intent to make ext4 and then convert it to btrfs. [18:20] i have never ever configured nfsd [18:21] found it [18:21] ScreamerX, http://xkcd.com/378/ [18:22] dive: LMAO!!! :-) [18:23] dive: i tried out: M-x butterfly [18:23] :) [18:23] but there is only a "Amazing physics going on..." [18:23] is there anything else? [18:23] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [18:23] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [18:24] no idea [18:24] and I don't have emacs installed [18:24] emacs help says: Use butterflies to flip the desired bit on the drive platter. [18:25] heh [18:25] lol [18:25] that IS funny :P [18:25] xkcd makes refference to emacs who makes refference to xkcd :P [18:25] you have to be a lisp programmer to fully appriciate the pun on recursion there :P [18:26] i guess, it is just nonsense [18:26] macavity: lol [18:26] just don't type 'google' into google [18:26] doing nothing [18:28] dive: which editor do you use? [18:28] vim [18:28] i use nano.exe [18:28] sometimes elvis/vi [18:28] ok, i do use emacs :-) [18:28] and netbeans [18:30] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:33] i like emacs :-( [18:34] maybe it's because i don't know how to work with vi properly :-( [18:40] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Quit: Reboot time [18:42] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:43] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [18:44] inglor (inglor@bb-87-80-175-146.ukonline.co.uk) left ##slackware. [18:44] corretico (~laguilar@190.241.113.34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:46] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) joined ##slackware. [18:48] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [18:48] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-156-95.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:49] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:50] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-65-157.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [18:50] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@adsl-99-181-224-31.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:50] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [18:52] bash: nano.exe: command not found [18:53] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) left irc: Client Quit [18:54] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-65-157.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:54] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) joined ##slackware. [18:57] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:57] I'm contemplating installing this new workstation with Slackware64 13.1. Has anyone ran into issues with flash or anything? [19:00] No. [19:01] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:03] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [19:03] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [19:03] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [19:05] I'm running SW64 13.1 w/Flash 10.0 64-bit, but lots of website are starting to come up complaining that my flash is out of date, and there is no Flash 10.1 64-bit [19:05] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [19:05] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) left irc: Client Quit [19:07] haha for everyone who wants to use lynx as default browser in emacs. The function is called browse-url-text-emacs [19:07] CathyInBlue: figures. I'll give it a whirl. I have to rebuild my workstation so figured I may as well go 64bit [19:09] I think I read/heard that multilib + flash32 works? [19:11] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [19:11] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) left irc: Client Quit [19:12] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [19:12] fuzzbawl dive 64 bit is cool and with alienBOB's multilib its realy great [19:12] who knows, how to disable bluetooth-manager, it sits always in tray [19:13] and korganizer too [19:13] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DW767hyo6s [19:14] this happens if people start to use ubuntu :-) [19:14] LOL [19:14] vdv: right klick on korganizer [19:15] Andre_Barboza (~andre@187.32.40.189) joined ##slackware. [19:15] disable "Erinnerungsmodul bei der Anmeldung starten" [19:15] but icon doesn't dissappear [19:15] v4nelle (~van@78-185-25.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:15] ah [19:16] simply quit [19:17] but bluetooth-manager doesn't have a quit option [19:17] it just hangs here [19:17] ScreamerX: why the hell is he doing a vid about this ???? [19:18] make sure ubuntu is gone! :) [19:18] stevehedge (~stevehedg@cpc2-cwbn3-2-0-cust45.cwbn.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [19:19] XD [19:19] m3tti: because he likes to tell the world how he is doing a "genuine" windows installation with his full name [19:20] what the hell is genuine windows ??? [19:21] oh hell its over :-( [19:21] i need a new linux hater vid XD [19:21] one moment [19:21] i have one [19:22] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.227.199) joined ##slackware. [19:24] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3A23QTLdfU&feature=related ???? [19:24] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:26] this is the craziest guy ive ever seen on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IOB7Hmnkso [19:26] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Quit: Usar Linux amacia o cabelo [19:26] Herman (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:26] ikar (~ikar@103.223.34.95.customer.cdi.no) joined ##slackware. [19:27] why is everyone talking about the command line [19:27] guess what. i lost my kernel config file [19:28] because he is an 31337 h4ck3r [19:28] if you setup a slackware full install on a system you don't need the commandline anymore [19:28] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. [19:28] ok except you like it that way like i [19:28] /s/i/me [19:29] is it possible to recover a lost kernel-config-file? [19:30] ikar, if it's the current running kernel, and you enabled it, /proc/config.gz has it [19:30] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:30] ok, thanks, thrice` [19:30] zcat + > should help :> [19:31] how can one guy alone be so stupid? [19:31] ok [19:31] i mean this guy in the youtube vid [19:31] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [19:32] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-137-249.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [19:33] DURgod (~DURgod@24-247-210-79.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:33] ScreamerX: is the guy stoned ? [19:34] m3tti: in every vid? [19:34] XD [19:34] DURgod (~DURgod@24-247-210-79.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:34] maybe [19:34] i don't know the habits of that guy [19:34] most people are drinking coffee in the morning [19:34] he has a smoke XD [19:35] i have a smoke *and* coffee.. and preferably not more than five minutes after i am up :P [19:35] me too. [19:35] macavity++ followed by the washroom [19:36] You can smoak a washroom. [19:36] XD [19:36] thats great [19:37] Can somone quickly recommend a ntp(d) howto besides this one: http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/sdeg/ntpd.htm ? [19:37] mac- (~mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [19:37] computer says no... [19:37] why? [19:37] (and no, I'm going to bed) [19:37] I mean: if you have a problem, describe it [19:38] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [19:38] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zadOSMXKs4A&feature=related <- the background music sounds crazy XD [19:38] byteframe: the ones at ntp.org are good, even if they're not really a "howto" [19:38] whats that it sounds like skrewdriver XD [19:38] byteframe: any specific trouble, or just wanting general ideas? [19:39] rworkman, It seems I am (and is suppossed) to have the localclock server in there (in addition to pool). But I quess I need to know if the rc scripts handle startup/shutdown. I chmodded /etc/rc.ntpd, do I need to start it from rc.local? [19:40] ntpdate us.pool.ntp.org, works. [19:40] byteframe: rc.ntpd is called from rc.M [19:40] Ok, thanks. [19:41] I've got a nice ntp server config at home, but the net there seems to be down, so I can't get that for you right now. I can later if you'd like [19:41] frk (~jcn@189.58.221.122.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:42] rworkman, I think I'll fiqure it out. I assume this is less complex than it looks. [19:43] where is alienBOB? [19:43] outer space? [19:44] cesconix (~cesconix@93-46-44-67.ip106.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [19:44] Yes. [19:44] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:44] hmm [19:44] was going to thanks him for the kde4.5 packages [19:45] working well here [19:45] mac- (~mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [19:46] ikar (~ikar@103.223.34.95.customer.cdi.no) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:47] DURgod (~DURgod@24-247-210-79.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:48] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-65-157.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [19:48] hmm.. i just wanted to thank him for his nice KDESC 4.5.0 build.. it's nice :-) [19:49] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: Quit: gn8 [19:49] DURgod (~DURgod@24-247-210-79.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:50] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [19:51] do you know that one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozXDLboJ4wE [19:52] ... [19:53] dive: what? [19:53] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@187.10.13.226) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3 [19:54] nothing just '...' [19:54] it's what goes for a disaproving grunt in some parts [19:55] rworkman: howdy [19:56] dive: it's a turn-on for me.. *growls hungrily* [19:56] ... [19:56] oh baby [19:57] ScreamerX man what things are done with that damn windoofs shit [19:58] i've found a vid where the sounds of windows were sampled to a gangster beat XD [20:00] xdoctor (~bla@201.78.226.243) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:03] hmm.. webkit support in konqueror is obviously missing :-/ [20:03] did you install it? [20:04] uhm, no.. i figured it was a compile time dependency? [20:04] uhm, no [20:04] :) [20:04] *awesome* [20:04] Action: macavity hits up sbo [20:07] ufuk_k (~ufuk@unaffiliated/ufukkilicaslan/x-898496) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:07] neato.. and webkit doesnt even have a shit load of deps.. only two :-) [20:08] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:08] ? [20:08] shouldn't have any [20:08] icu4u and libsoup [20:09] why are you installing webkit? qt already has a webkit engine [20:09] you're looking for "kwebkitpart" [20:09] >_< [20:09] lol [20:09] not on sbo [20:09] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:10] I hear it's a bit crashy. [20:10] alkos333 (~alkos333@pool110.skokielibrary.info) joined ##slackware. [20:10] That's the technical term. [20:10] i want to watch it develop.. i've missed a properly integrated browser for some time [20:10] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:10] i always liked konqueror... just not its rendering :P [20:10] yeah [20:10] mm, I haven't tried in a little while, but this should mostly work [20:11] http://github.com/abrouwers/ajb_slackbuilds/blob/master/kwebkitpart/kwebkitpart.SlackBuild [20:11] thrice`: ok.. any hints on where i get kwebkitpart? [20:11] it would be nice [20:11] thanks :-) [20:12] m3tti` (~user@p57B7ADAD.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [20:15] helen271 (user@81.39.69.23) left ##slackware. [20:16] m3tti (~user@p57B7AE69.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:18] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [20:19] I need a little advice [20:19] m3tti` (~user@p57B7ADAD.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:19] get a hair cut [20:19] I have crashed the ext2 system with some files trashing inodes [20:19] thrice`: i think i am up to owing you an entire case of beer by now :P [20:20] fsck -f ftw :p [20:20] but as a ro filesystem [20:20] macavity, wait until it works, then send away :) [20:20] I wann to migrate to ext3 but donno want to have any problems with it due to previous maaany failures [20:20] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [20:21] s/don't/donno [20:21] you need your FS in a consistent state before adding a journal to it [20:22] macavity, iirc you need to enable webkit in konq settings somewhere too. [20:22] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-164-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:22] just building atm [20:23] Whats the diff between fsck and e2fsck [20:23] you can do it per-page, or go to file associations -> text/html, then "embedding" tab and give preference to webkit [20:23] built [20:23] ah thanks thrice` [20:24] Andre_Barboza (~andre@187.32.40.189) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [20:24] paul424: nothing much& fsck figures out the filesystem type [20:24] rue_shop3 (~rue_mohr@24.207.119.38) joined ##slackware. [20:25] before I give up completely and write my own software, anyone know how to make say vlc live stream a usb webcam (v4l) [20:25] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-164-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:25] dont ask me to go to videolan, nobody there knows [20:26] then how should we? :) [20:26] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [20:26] because aparently your channel has a lot of sharp cookies [20:27] http://www.videolan.org/doc/videolan-howto/en/ch08.html was of no use? [20:27] lets see, [20:28] amazing how many docs there are on this from that site, none of them sofar that are usefull AND work [20:28] that's the first hit on google, so [20:28] I'll give it a go [20:31] tom_ (~tom@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [20:31] heh I'm back , what to do if I cannot umount or how to remount to ro ? [20:32] try going to runlevel 1 and then remount / -o ro [20:32] woha.. crashy is perhaps an understatement :P [20:33] both slashdot and my homebank crashes [20:33] .. the two reasons i still use firefox :-/ [20:33] tom_: you can also append init=1 to the kernel parameters from your boot loader [20:34] cen___1 (~cen@pool-96-246-3-39.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:36] ok runlevel 1 [20:36] :D [20:36] tom_ (~tom@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) left irc: Quit: BitchX: the NEW form of birth control! [20:36] Andre_Barboza (~andre@187.32.40.189) joined ##slackware. [20:37] Jennifur (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:37] no, the command line format changed since that was written [20:37] worldhlord (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:37] thrice` [20:38] I'll try and correct it [20:40] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) joined ##slackware. [20:42] macavity, /. works here [20:42] whats that? [20:42] fuzzbawl: Hey!! Long time no talk [20:42] macavity, only problem I seem to be having is an oversized status bar [20:43] fuzzbawl: I got your voice mails, btw, but I was at the beach when you called, and my phone was *not* at the beach. By the time I got the messages, the problem was already handled. [20:44] Yes, I ran off and left my phone at home. [20:44] macavity, I could get to like this very much now. [20:44] dive: whut? [20:44] konq+webkit [20:44] dive: it crashes hard here.. that is, when i set the file association [20:44] v4nelle (~van@78-185-25.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:44] hmm [20:45] 32bit? [20:45] dive: if i dont, and just pick viewmode->webkit, then it works [20:45] ah right [20:45] off to #kde for you my lad [20:45] ;p [20:45] naa.. [20:45] am0rphis (~ewq@91.145.211.152) joined ##slackware. [20:46] ok.. this time it also crashed when i changed it via wievmode [20:46] damn.. but i guess it wont be any longher than maybe 4.5.3 before i can use it [20:48] only problem is that useragent isn't customisable enough. I need 'slackware/13.1' at the start for correct icon to show on LQ.org [20:50] uhm, cant you make your own in the settings dialouge? [20:50] rue_shop3 (rue_mohr@24.207.119.38) left ##slackware. [20:50] the other ones are just presets i think [20:50] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) joined ##slackware. [20:51] amarok2 is very strange and slow :( [20:51] I tried clicking in the text box but naja [20:52] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[21:03] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.39.102) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:03] hey [21:03] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [21:04] DURgod (~DURgod@24-247-210-79.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:05] rworkman: hehe. no worries [21:05] DURgod (~DURgod@24-247-210-79.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:05] dive: ah.. i took the "real identification" field for a typing field [21:05] Andre_Barboza (~andre@187.32.40.189) joined ##slackware. [21:05] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-137-249.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [21:05] miss_riss (~risah@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [21:06] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-156-95.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:06] my first successfull kernel-compilation :D [21:06] I'm hoping it will be in a config file somewhere.. not looking good though atm. [21:06] ikar, congrats [21:07] thanks, dive [21:08] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:08] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:12] ikar (~ikar@103.223.34.95.customer.cdi.no) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:12] miss_riss (~risah@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: miss_riss [21:13] bbl [21:13] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@adsl-99-181-224-31.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Erp. So that's what kill %1 does! [21:14] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [21:15] ok how to start kernel entry level with lilo ? [21:15] indubitableness1 (~indubitab@adsl-99-109-208-246.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:35] crocket: try typing "dnsdomainname" [21:35] crocket: it sould match the one in /etc/HOSTNAME [21:35] DURgod (~DURgod@24-247-210-79.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:36] macavity : no it doesn't match the domain name in /etc/HOSTNAME but one in /etc/hosts. [21:36] oh, my bad [21:36] /etc/HOSTNAME is used by the slackware init scripts to set it [21:37] sorry, got confused for a sec there [21:37] /etc/profile apparently set $HOSTNAME according to /etc/HOSTNAME, but nothing else I found. [21:38] also /etc/rc.d/rc.M [21:38] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:38] anotherone (root@201-75-115-76-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) left ##slackware. [21:38] so you probably want to keep HOSTNAME and hosts in sync [21:40] DURgod (~DURgod@24-247-210-79.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. 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[22:13] Nick change: jewbacca -> Barfolomew [22:13] hello all [22:13] i do not [22:13] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [22:13] vdv: nope [22:14] vdv: xmms FTW [22:14] amarok1.4 was good [22:14] but amarok in kde4 is very slow and buggy [22:15] vdv, tried clementine? It's a fork of amarok 1.4. [22:15] nope [22:15] vdv: Juk? [22:15] no, that's very basic [22:16] Barfolomew: lol.. i read you nick as "Bartfollowme" :P [22:16] i didn't found kttmgr in kde4 also [22:16] kttsmgr [22:16] as in, "Bart, follow me" :P [22:16] macavity: it's a character from _space_balls_ [22:16] ah, a classic :-) [22:17] and kxkb doesn't have sticky switch feature [22:17] slick55 (~slick@cpe-075-176-171-074.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:17] macavity: yeah, you can call me ralph [22:17] vdv, http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/audio/clementine/ [22:17] vdv: or rhythmbox [22:17] mocp [22:17] deadbeef [22:17] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.227.199) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:18] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.227.199) joined ##slackware. [22:18] now building clementine first [22:18] Anyone using pidgin with an ekiga.net SIP address? I have an address and password which i just verified at the ekiga website. Port set to 5080 (also tried 5060) and it just hangs [22:19] why amarok2 degraded so much? [22:19] good question, vdv [22:19] hardly "improved" [22:19] vdv: go complain about it to the kde teams [22:20] vdv: look who is late to the party.. the rest of us ranted about this a year ago :P [22:20] :) [22:20] vdv: however, you *can* fiddle it into working like amarok 1.6 with some effort [22:20] SpartanVI (~raito@adsl-176-2-33.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:20] macavity: how? [22:20] vdv: it is not always intuitive how to do it, but i have mine set up so it is pretty close [22:21] remove the center view, pull the two other ones together, click on everything and figure out how to make it work [22:21] Andre_Barboza (~andre@187.32.40.189) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:21] :) [22:21] you can edit and cusomize amarok to a quite insane level now [22:21] there's no global shortcuts [22:21] thats the only good thing about it [22:22] set some up [22:22] how? [22:23] Nick change: Barfolomew -> jewcardi [22:23] alter src? [22:24] Nick change: jewcardi -> dark_djinn [22:24] oh god, they've removed kdict applet, now i have to use dict cli [22:25] there's also new gui to dictd, called dikt, but it's impossible to put it on control panel [22:26] cocoadog (ad4d721e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.77.114.30) joined ##slackware. [22:26] no.. click on things [22:27] really you can edit everything [22:27] Nick change: dark_djinn -> yosii [22:27] Nick change: yosii -> brklynRednek [22:28] Nick change: brklynRednek -> AnonymousRednek [22:28] Nick change: AnonymousRednek -> nyRednek [22:28] Nick change: nyRednek -> dark_djinn [22:28] NICK flood from @cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com! Banning. [22:28] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [22:28] dark_djinn kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: nick flood [22:30] vdv: view->unceck "locked view" [22:30] vdv: then you can remove the center widget [22:30] sorry, "locked layout" [22:31] yes, i've already did that [22:31] but it's not really a problem, that center widget [22:31] they've reduced configurability [22:33] what is missing? [22:34] global shortcuts [22:34] for example [22:34] btw, clementine looks cool [22:35] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:38] ohh, crash [22:38] stevehedge (~stevehedg@cpc2-cwbn3-2-0-cust45.cwbn.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:38] once more [22:40] you can just set the global short cuts in the kde control center [22:42] talso (~talso@S010600402d8fd95b.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:42] for amarok too? [22:43] clementine is buggy [22:43] yup, you can set shortcuts, internal and globally, from the control center [22:47] aryr (~aryr100@cpe-67-248-210-0.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:47] clementine says that my gstreamer installation misses some plugin [22:47] and then segfault [22:48] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [22:48] Guest86794 (davi@189.4.116.87) joined ##slackware. [22:48] vdv: perhaps SBo has that plugin? 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