[00:00] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:00] take care,folks...talk with y'all later...:D [00:00] MLanden: cya [00:00] nvision (n=nvision@e179128198.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [00:00] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-70-18-152-171.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Life is the greatest source...Seek it out and see how it compiles!" [00:01] Action: init[1] afk [00:02] elliot98 (n=elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: Client Quit [00:02] hmm, libkcddb is not in kdelibs, I grepped for it on this cd, but not finding it. can I zcat or something to look for it in the compressed files? [00:02] zgrep I meant [00:02] nope [00:02] try kdemultimedia or summit [00:03] kdemultimedia has noatun, kmix, kscd, phonon-xine [00:03] trust me [00:03] no summit on this cd [00:04] looks like summit is in kdeedu [00:05] "Educational applications for KDE" How descriptive. [00:05] kdemultimedia, ftw. disregard summit it flew over at 10,000 ft [00:06] kdemultimedia did it [00:06] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:06] how can I see what's *in* those txz files? [00:06] like, if I only wanted that lib and not noatun, foo, bar, etc [00:06] tar tJvf my_secret_file.txz [00:07] that untars it fully, eh? [00:07] no [00:07] you didn't ask for that [00:07] Use mc to browse archives and extract single files [00:08] I see -j in man tar but bzip2 but I haven't seen a -J yet [00:08] to extract a certain file, tar xJvd my_tar.txz /fully/pathed/filename [00:08] J is for xz'd stuffer-oos [00:09] interesting its not in the man page [00:09] thanks! [00:09] welcome [00:10] -rwxr-xr-x root/root 239804 2009-06-05 01:12 usr/lib/libkcddb.so.4.2.0 [00:11] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) left irc: Client Quit [00:11] so I could have just xJvd THAT /to/somewhere and then installed it [00:11] you might need the .la too [00:11] huh, The More You Know. [00:15] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:15] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [00:15] alicephilippa (i=alice@78.105.168.173) joined ##slackware. [00:16] WildWizard: yet another demonstration of midnight commander sweetness [00:17] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) joined ##slackware. [00:18] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [00:20] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [00:20] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) left irc: Client Quit [00:21] http://www.skytopia.com/project/fractal/mandelbulb.html ... and here I found my new wallpaper [00:24] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-159-231.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [00:24] WildWizard: yeah I saw that posted earlier, that is awesome. I'm going to use 'hell freezes over' on my 2960x1050 [00:24] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.164) left irc: "Leaving" [00:27] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-159-231.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:29] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) joined ##slackware. [00:32] correcaminos_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:36] jhell (n=89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) left irc: "Command not found" [00:38] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [00:40] i noticed i typo'd earlier. i meant tar xJvf (not xJvd) [00:40] make sure you don't use my typo'd command [00:41] oh? [00:41] will it give me vd? [00:43] Sier (n=sier@unaffiliated/sier) left irc: [00:43] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-155-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:46] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:49] korg815_ (n=korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [00:51] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-139-180.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:53] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [00:57] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. 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[01:06] Rat409: double fail. :P [01:07] sorry [01:07] one of those nights. bleh [01:08] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:11] Axius (n=ade@92.84.24.124) joined ##slackware. [01:13] Why does /etc/motd keep getting overridden? [01:14] s/overridden/overwritten [01:14] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:14] ask rc.S [01:15] it is basically so it gives the right kernel [01:16] frullet (n=hooch@203.206.19.122) joined ##slackware. [01:17] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [01:17] berke (n=will@nv-67-232-151-51.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:17] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.73.37) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:17] mancha =] [01:17] w3b3r (n=tomasz@dynamic-78-8-167-117.ssp.dialog.net.pl) joined ##slackware. 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[01:29] briareus (i=1000@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [01:30] Ftp and http server running ;) acceptable download rate 30kb/s with 3mb connection ;) [01:30] ordinary cablemodem :( [01:30] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [01:31] kb or kB? [01:31] difference a lot ;P [01:31] :P [01:31] kilobytes [01:31] or kiloBytes as you want [01:31] 30kB = 240kb what is normal upload for dsl modem [01:31] yes, as i see [01:31] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-6-138.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:32] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:32] but.. i dont know how it will work with a few connections [01:32] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [01:32] eehh GATO! [01:32] good morning [01:32] where are you from g4tt0 [01:32] ? [01:32] italia [01:32] too much less download rate? [01:33] :-) [01:33] or would go fine? [01:33] cossa nostra! [01:33] KiB [01:33] i had and exchange italian student on my course [01:34] italy is not only cossa nostra! :-) [01:34] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:34] i know gato, i had been on italy spain [01:34] im a spain nationality too [01:35] becouse of my grandparents ;) [01:35] rfdrew (n=rfdrew@65-107-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. [01:37] gatto do you wanna downlad and screenshot or someone there and tell me the speed? [01:37] from another part of the world? [01:37] ok [01:37] just for testing, im planning to setup a web there [01:38] http://gonzalo.dnsalias.org/instant%e1nea3.png [01:38] or try downloading some of the packages on / [01:39] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[01:45] rfdrew (n=rfdrew@65-107-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:47] frullet (n=hooch@203.206.19.122) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:49] rfdrew (n=rfdrew@65-107-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. [01:51] http://www.100mb.nl/ acsii tux :P [01:56] Does Kongoni have slack? [01:56] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-73-138.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:57] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [01:58] whois kongoni? [01:58] a Slackware-based distro that does not have non-Free Software [01:58] however they made a package management system [01:58] i mean for dependencies [01:59] im it the webpage [01:59] a stupid project :P [01:59] as kwort :P [02:00] but is as simple as not installing non free soft [02:00] yeah, which may not be practical [02:01] they made some graphical frontends [02:01] for what? [02:01] post installation, etc [02:02] i was looking through [02:03] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:03] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@71.104.236.81) joined ##slackware. [02:03] kongoni == A.J. Venter its slack type with ports like bsd* [02:03] iirc [02:03] alisonken1home, gone to work? [02:04] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [02:04] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:04] heya [02:07] Is it normal for /var/log/syslog to be empty ? [02:08] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:09] is your system running syslogd? [02:09] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [02:09] grep var/log/syslog /etc/syslog.conf please [02:09] godling: yes , I restarted it to be sure [02:10] also, pgrep syslogd, please [02:11] bueller? [02:11] xdan779: odd. check the config file like mancha suggested. [02:12] mancha: http://pastebin.com/m70dc38a [02:12] xdan779: do you have any syslog.* files in /var/log ? [02:13] looks good to me [02:13] godling: yes syslog.1 there is entries up until the 14th [02:14] there are others but .1 has teh most recent additions [02:14] hrmm, something broke in the rotate? [02:14] Axius (n=ade@92.84.24.124) left irc: "Leaving" [02:16] interesting [02:16] mancha: I have not set up rotate logs, I should also mention the reason I was checking to begin with is I noticed an odd entry in my routing table, trying to figure out how it got there [02:16] xdan779: is there anything pertinent in syslog.1? [02:17] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [02:18] godling: I do not beleive so, nothing looks out of ordinary in it [02:19] stunix (i=1000@85.19.141.138) left irc: "I hurt myself today, to see if I still feel." [02:19] Nick change: notKlaatu -> klaatu_AFK [02:20] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:20] try this: logger -p kern.warn TEST [02:20] stunix (i=1000@85.19.141.138) joined ##slackware. [02:20] and see if you get a /var/log/syslog [02:20] xdan779: rotating for syslog is usually setup in /etc/logrotate.d/ [02:22] mancha: yes, the message TEST appears in syslog [02:23] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-419954.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:25] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-169.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [02:26] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.84.86) joined ##slackware. [02:26] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.73.37) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:27] ok, so you simply had nothing logworthy since 11/14 [02:27] at that loglevel, that is [02:28] mancha: it is likely I am just being paranoid saw a weird entry in my routing table, I removed it, but I have never seen a blank syslog like that before. A 1st time for everything [02:30] that's good to be paranoid. you can try running chkrootkit or rkhunter to put your mind a bit more at ease [02:31] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [02:33] darylc (n=darylc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:33] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Success [02:33] mancha: many thanks, I'll give chkrootkit a run to be sure [02:34] np [02:35] darylc (n=darylc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) left irc: Client Quit [02:37] efz (n=nik@68-114-212-208.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [02:37] Nick change: efz -> efz2 [02:37] what would i be lacking that would cause "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" when trying to build something? [02:38] setting the arch to x86_64 [02:39] http://slackbuilds.org/faq/#x86_64 [02:39] efz2: you could be trying to create the wrong kind of executables [02:39] it's a slackbuild. [02:39] please read the link i posted [02:39] so set the arch to x86_64 [02:40] you're on a 64-bit system, I assume? [02:40] i'm not running a 64 bit machine [02:40] hrm [02:40] interesting [02:40] ive typed my way to carpal tunnel trying to figure this out :p [02:40] efz2: what's it say in the config.log file? [02:41] exit 77 [02:41] /usr/libexec/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/4.3.3/cc1: error while loading shared libraries: libmpfr.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [02:41] came across that [02:42] ill install that and see what i get [02:42] you need to install mpfr [02:42] and we have success [02:42] suhweet. [02:42] thanks :) [02:43] :> [02:43] Next time just uh..read the error [02:43] setup a backup server for myself today so i'm playing around :p [02:43] straterra, i'm not familiar with autoconf generated files [02:43] You dont have to be [02:43] it cant find a libary..which means it isnt there [02:44] Which means..install it [02:44] i had to check config.log [02:44] efz2: if it says there's more information in config.log, that's a good place to look. :) [02:44] which is an autoconf generated file. [02:44] sir. [02:44] another good rule of thumb is to install all of "L" unless you really know what you're doing [02:44] so you can't read instructions, efz2? :) [02:44] godling, sometimes not :P [02:44] apparently [02:44] :P [02:44] at least your issue is resolved [02:45] ye [02:45] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:45] yep* [02:45] and now you know for future reference [02:45] ive been running slack for years that problem should have been quicker resolved personally [02:45] ive just never *not* done a full install [02:46] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "my name is -- MARK -- , all your /var/log/messages are belong to me :o" [02:48] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-ovuiiwccmvwohink) joined ##slackware. [02:50] efz2 (n=nik@68-114-212-208.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [02:53] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A53B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:55] anyone got a motorola vu204 phone? I just plugged it into my slack box, dmesg shows "Product: Motorola VU204" [02:55] wondering what (if anything) I can do with it [02:55] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-104.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:56] Urchlay: Verizon? [02:56] Urchlay: Verizon has a habit of significantly crippling hardware. [02:57] yeah, it's verizon [02:57] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:59] apparently it's at least semi-supported in bitpim... which is a huge pain to build [02:59] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:04] apparently the download link to the gnokii source bundle on http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/office/gnokii/ is broken. [03:04] JJJunkk (i=spole@panix1.panix.com) joined ##slackware. [03:06] looks like they only keep the latest release in that dir, there's an 0.6.27 tarball in http://www.gnokii.org/download/gnokii/0.6.x/ [03:06] I'll see if the slackbuild will work OK for 0.6.28 [03:08] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:08] it's not only for nokia phones, is it? [03:08] no [03:09] I'm not sure if it supports CDMA though [03:09] er, CDMA phones [03:09] Wikipedia didn't mention it. [03:09] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:11] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:13] hm, gnokii's wiki says it supports phones that have the AT command set (I suppose as just a modem) [03:14] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [03:14] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:15] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [03:15] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:15] RobDob (n=rpedrica@165.145.75.61) joined ##slackware. [03:17] bleah, it wants me to pick a USB device, like /dev/ttyUSB0 (none seem to exist...) [03:19] RobDob (n=rpedrica@165.145.75.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:21] well, there's /dev/usbdev1.10 and 1.10_ep?? [03:21] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:22] RobDob (n=rpedrica@165.145.75.61) joined ##slackware. [03:23] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:24] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [03:24] wee [03:24] wee [03:24] Urchlay, no ttyACM0 ? you might want to try gammu too. [03:24] slava_dp: no ttyUSB* or ttyACM* or /dev/tts/* [03:26] RobDob (n=rpedrica@165.145.75.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:27] I expect I won't be able to make this thing work with gnokii other than with the AT command set driver... and even that doesn't seem to work [03:28] ienh (n=ienh@81.53.142.198) joined ##slackware. [03:28] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [03:29] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [03:29] greetings [03:29] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-104.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [03:30] hi [03:30] hi The-Croupier [03:30] hows things going this monday morning? [03:30] hiya fire|bird, godling [03:30] shit, it's monday morning [03:30] I need to wake up in 4 and a half hours [03:30] godling: ohh i see, great then ;) [03:32] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:34] morning! [03:34] what an aweful monday it is [03:34] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [03:34] y0 slackytude [03:34] y0y0 fire|bird! hows it going [03:35] slackytude: great, thanks. I have google wave now. how are you? [03:36] fire|bird: well, fine for a monday. things are pretty busy these last days. uni again. you got wave? cool [03:36] everything else fine too? [03:36] send me a wave! [03:37] slackytude: yeah, I got my invite the day before yesterday. [03:37] if it works :p [03:37] slackytude: yeah, everything else is great. [03:37] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) joined ##slackware. [03:37] slackytude: oh yeah, I've tried it out, works very well. [03:37] slackytude@googlewave [03:38] done some waves that are over 100 messages, including the plugins like maps, weather, etc. [03:39] slackytude: alright, have you added to my contacts now. :) [03:40] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:41] Google is scary. [03:42] gammu doesn't seem to want to work either [03:42] StevenR (n=foo@wan2.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:43] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [03:43] godling: so are you. Which is worse? you, or google? :P [03:44] hm, the phone probably does support bluetooth, and I got a bluetooth adaptor... [03:45] fire|bird: I'm scarier for different reasons. [03:45] hmm.. I got bitlbee installed yesterday.. but i cant get it to work. I added the line in /etc/inetd.conf and /etc/rc.d/rc.inetd restart but it doesnt work. when I do lsof -i:6667 it doesnt run.. what am I missing? [03:45] s/scarier/scary/ [03:45] hey sheltered|capitalizer [03:45] er Urchlay [03:45] godling: haha [03:46] Urchlay, if you don't have the device, no software will work. [03:46] y0 slava_dp, Urchlay, godling [03:47] hows it hangimg [03:47] hanging [03:47] fire|bird: I shall respond shortly [03:47] slava_dp: which device? I have a USB bluetooth dongle on the Slackware box, and the phone is supposed to support bluetooth (does it need an external dongle of its own?) [03:47] hi slackytude [03:47] it's not [03:47] Urchlay, i mean. the one in /dev :) [03:47] I'm sitting down [03:48] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.195.130) joined ##slackware. [03:48] slava_dp: oh, right. Well it *is* creating /dev/usbdev_1.10 and /dev/usbdev_1.10_ep* nodes, but I've no idea what those are for (they don't work as serial ports, that's for sure) [03:49] Urchlay: make sure to actually turn bluetooth on in the phone menu [03:49] my motorola doesn't do it automatically [03:49] godling: I did not know it was possible to turn off :) [03:49] Action: Urchlay checks [03:50] Hey dudes [03:50] Urchlay: for motorolla phones, check modmymoto ;) its a nice site with lots of insights ;) [03:51] ok, bluetooth is on... is there a bluetooth equivalent of "ifconfig -a" that will show all bluetooth devices in range? [03:51] fire|bird: hey, it just gave me "cheaters|failed" [03:51] Have any of you experienced weird problems with the Atheros AR9285? For instance, signal strength being uber low etc.. [03:52] Urchlay: haha, nice. [03:52] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:52] Urchlay: second one here was: perceptible|minicomputers [03:53] urchlay, there are lots of nice software in that site... ;) you might find lots of usable scripts etc ;) [03:53] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:53] The-Croupier: I had found that site in my googling, but all I saw people talking about was windows software [03:53] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [03:55] i found a bash terminal for my motorola there ;) [03:55] and lots of other java, and other software for the phone... and my phone has linux in it ;) [03:56] The-Croupier: the "search forums" on that site seems to be broken [03:56] oops [03:57] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-214.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: "I regret Nothing..." [03:58] there's a linux forum, but I just picked a random post from there and got directions on how to use windows to flash the phone to support telnet (including cmd.exe snapshots) [03:59] ah. The forum's tag line says "General talk about modding Motorola phones running on the Linux platform." [03:59] steiger_ (n=steiger@189.105.50.69) joined ##slackware. [03:59] there needs to be a comma or some more words there [04:00] it looks like it's about (modding (motorola phones running on linux)), not (modding (motorola phones) running on linux), if that makes any sense [04:02] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) joined ##slackware. [04:02] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) left ##slackware. [04:04] not reall [04:04] *really [04:04] Urchlay: some of the tools require Windows [04:05] s/some/all/ apparently, I haven't found anything else on that site so far [04:06] fef (n=feyner@cpe-173-168-249-106.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:06] fef (n=feyner@cpe-173-168-249-106.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:06] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:07] emma (n=emma@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:07] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:07] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [04:07] emma (n=emma@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [04:07] Time to get going. Later guys. Take care. :) [04:08] nvision (n=nvision@e179128198.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:09] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [04:09] haha, my phone can see & identify my wiimote [04:10] so, your phone can play wii too now [04:11] I tell it to paid with the wiimote, it asks for a 4-character pass key (I suppose an actual bluetooth headset has a PIN or something) [04:11] s/paid/pair/ [04:14] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [04:17] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.50.69) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:20] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: "leaving" [04:27] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) joined ##slackware. [04:27] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) left ##slackware. [04:27] Mornin [04:28] y0 Zordrak [04:32] hello all [04:33] I'm trying to unblock a port but I'm not quite sure what port is it to unlock trying to connect to my http://localhost [04:33] I had it one time but now I cant [04:33] Masterx831: youre going to have to reconstruct that sentence and try again [04:34] Zordrak: sorry I jsut have too much on my mind [04:34] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [04:35] w3b3r (n=tomasz@dynamic-78-8-167-117.ssp.dialog.net.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:35] The_Seeker (n=seeker@90.200.153.19) joined ##slackware. [04:36] Zordrak: do you know when tou type in your browser your ip address, by entering http://ipaddress/ a blank page with the words "It Works!" appear on it. [04:36] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-026.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [04:37] Masterx831: that appears when you configure your router ;) [04:37] The-Croupier: lol i know that how would i check what port it uses with slackware [04:37] Masterx831: that is an unconfigured apache server [04:38] yep, that is apache default [04:38] I have tried lsof -i and netstat --listen [04:38] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:38] Masterx831: what are you trying to do exactly? [04:38] Masterx831: as noted that's the standard apache webserver start page to let you know it's running [04:39] oh i get it apachestt or soemthing [04:39] i wouldnt think that the ports would change depending on OS but then again i might be wrong [04:39] apachestart [04:39] its the index.html in htdocs dir [04:39] despiron (n=1986saul@187.64.21.199) left irc: "• made for you •Cebolinhav9.2• www.cajau.com" [04:39] slackytude: ;) [04:39] y0 The-Croupier [04:39] Action: slackytude is confused [04:39] brb let me man apache [04:39] you need more than 'man' for apache [04:39] Masterx831: are you trying to get port of apache? it's 80 [04:40] Masterx831: "grep http /etc/services" [04:43] madbear_ (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [04:46] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166000235.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:49] updatedb isnt including a partition i recently started mounting that i wasnt when i first created slocate.db how do i make it add the partition [04:49] so opening apachectl would be global port range 80 - 80 and base host port 80? [04:51] the port is set in /etc/httpd [04:51] oobe: i dont know, but how about recreating it... is it a big hustle ? [04:51] ok it works [04:52] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:52] The-Croupier, thanks [04:52] fianlly oobe whoa! thank you that just learn another thing by editing it [04:52] /etc/httpd/httpd.conf to be exact Listen 80 [04:52] i just changed to slackware from ubuntu and setting up apache was a bit confusing [04:53] http://98.85.40.111/ [04:53] all the paths are different and all the default configs require a lot of editing [04:54] setting up apache in slackware is confusing? [04:54] not to mention sql was a pain [04:54] chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd [04:54] oobe: you shouldn't have any trouble it took me 10 minutes to do this, and you have just told me about /etc/httpd/ [04:54] slackytude, if that were all that is necessary then of course it would be easy [04:55] what kind of editing is needed? [04:55] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [04:55] look it is easy if all you want is a simple html page but if you want more than one site withe sql support then it requires some focus [04:55] like what? [04:56] slackytude, a lot [04:56] i should of written it down [04:56] plus sql [04:57] Masterx831, that sire is timing out [04:57] where do I put the rxtx *.so files, to install it? [04:59] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:00] Axius (n=fd@92.84.3.90) joined ##slackware. [05:00] Masterx831, you need to forward port 80 in your route plus some isp's block port 80 [05:01] oobe: oobe what you mean it works! doesn't it? let me check brb [05:01] yeah it does [05:02] Masterx831, no your firewall is blocking me [05:02] shit! but how it's working for me [05:02] ok um.. [05:03] cyborg-o1e (i=1000@nas-12-127.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [05:03] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:04] I just created a service on my router as apachectl global port I put down 80 - 80 and in base port 80 and then i hit done [05:04] oobe: [05:05] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [05:06] still doesnt work i think you might need to apply the rule aswell as create it [05:06] plus if you are using a firewall script you will need to allow port 80 for all [05:06] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [05:06] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.195.130) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:07] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.132.57) joined ##slackware. [05:09] where is java installes? [05:10] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [05:11] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [05:13] jescis: "cat /var/log/packages/*jre*" [05:15] alisonken1noc, thanks, I'm trying to add rxtx [05:16] np [05:16] and I wanted to know where to put the *.so file ;-) [05:17] Since every distro is different ;-) [05:17] oobe: oh my god thank you! haha I completely forgot I wrote up a little bash script on my own check it out, http://pastebin.ca/1654400 [05:17] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-026.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:18] oobe: but I don't get it how does it work for me and not for you? [05:20] actually, the binaries are _supposed_ to be in the standard location as specified by LSB [05:20] :) [05:21] Masterx831, flush your tables that script is set to drop all forward to you machine [05:21] then test it again [05:21] oobe: nooooooooooooo lol I'll try to fix it later then [05:22] ok [05:22] braintix (n=bck@unaffiliated/braintix) joined ##slackware. [05:22] just letting you know it still no worky [05:22] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-031.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [05:23] oobe: hold on then let me pkill it lol [05:23] NO [05:23] you dont need to do that [05:23] whoa! [05:23] i dont know what harm it could cause [05:24] Axius (n=fd@92.84.3.90) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:24] pkill -9 "script" [05:24] maybe nothing but all you need to do is iptables --flush [05:24] the script shouldnt be running anymore once it creates the iptables rules it just quits [05:27] I have my mp3s in a Music folder in my home directory. They are arranged in sub folders as artist/album/01. Foo.mp3 [05:27] I'm wanting to delete all the mp3s but leave the folders intact; using rm -rf /home/user/Music/*.mp3 doesn't work [05:27] alisonken1noc, LSB? and what's that location? [05:27] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-419954.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:27] Any suggestions? [05:28] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.192.112) joined ##slackware. [05:29] oobe: on what line do you want me to put iptables --flush [05:29] from a konsole [05:29] LSB is linux standards base that defines the filesystem layout [05:29] basically all it does is drop all the rules you defined in that script [05:29] then if you want to re add them re run the script [05:29] http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/lsb [05:30] oobe: nice how do you know this? [05:30] to me its common knowledge [05:31] basically iptables has been around a long time [05:31] morning [05:31] i started using linux when iptables was new [05:31] oh famn i only got 1 year experience [05:31] still a noob compare to you [05:32] cyborg-o1e (i=1000@nas-12-127.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:32] The_Seeker: 'find /path/to/the/music/folder -type f -name \*.mp3 -exec rm {} \;' - that should delete all files *.mp3, in all subdirs, in the /path/to/the/music/folder dir [05:32] it works now right? [05:32] The_Seeker: "find /home/ -name *.mp3" - if that's correct, then "find /home/ -name *.mp3 | xargs rm" [05:32] lol, was just typing the same find string [05:32] like the one rrh typed :) [05:33] slava_dp: great minds think alike :) [05:33] thanks rrh and alisonken1noc [05:33] rrh: I find that xargs is usually better since it doesn's fork like -exec does [05:33] alisonken1home, xargs is broken. [05:34] I'll try in order of advice given ;) [05:34] alisonken1home, /j #bash && /msg greybot !xargs [05:34] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:34] how? has been working for me on our servers when finding dippy customer leftover files [05:35] interesting - null termination issues? [05:35] uh-huh [05:35] ok [05:35] StevenR_ (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:36] rrh: you're a legend - worked a treat [05:36] toofer-home (n=toofer@c-71-199-13-151.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "Good grief" [05:36] rrh: thanks again [05:36] alisonken1noc: thanks to you also for taking the time [05:36] np [05:36] time to 'man find'... [05:37] The_Seeker: you are welcome [05:37] The_Seeker, read up on find, it's a great tool. [05:37] slava_dp: doing so now [05:37] alisonken1noc, the ADTPro script has the java at /usr/local/java/bin/ :\ [05:37] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [05:38] jescis: no wonder - you're talking about Apple there :) [05:38] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:38] alisonken1noc, ooh [05:38] alisonken1noc, so what do I do? [05:38] what are you trying to do? [05:39] sinedrio (n=lastprid@193-126-129-134.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:39] install rxtx so I can send data to me //e through ADTPro 1.1.3 and my SSC [05:40] s/me/my [05:40] Dilbert hits another home-run :) Love it [05:41] jescis - since it's java and linux is mentioned, you can go ahead and install it, just don't expect it to be listed in slackware's package manager unless someone built a slackbuild for it [05:41] not sure if anyone else here has experience with adtpro either [05:42] alisonken1noc: is using too much system resources the issue, or why do you prefer xargs, over forking -exec ? [05:43] rrh: ease of use, mainly. I've always had issues trying to get the -exec .. {} thing working properly, whereas xargs only needs the program you want to run [05:43] although I have read somewhere that -exec takes a little more resources than xargs does [05:43] alisonken1noc, I don't expect that. just want to make sure I can get it working ;-) [05:45] this thing is more hobby then anything ;-) [05:45] slawocorp (i=slawocor@platinum.edu.pl) joined ##slackware. [05:45] apple //e is definitely a hobby thing :) [05:46] alisonken1noc, of course! But it's a good hobby ;-) [05:46] Especially for geeks or nerds ;-) [05:46] StevenR (n=foo@wan2.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:49] bosse_ (i=1000@c-94-255-240-134.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:56] bosse_ (i=1000@c-94-255-240-134.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [05:56] 'find' certainly is an impressive tool [05:57] The_Seeker: slocate is awsome too ;) [05:57] Action: The_Seeker heads off to man slocate [06:00] sinedrio (n=lastprid@193-126-129-134.net.novis.pt) left irc: Client Quit [06:07] skysong_ (n=indecent@ADSL-TPLUS-84-245.telecomplus.net) joined ##slackware. [06:11] The-Croupier, does slocate have any search criteria? or just plain slocate file? [06:11] skysong (n=indecent@ADSL-TPLUS-84-183.telecomplus.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:19] is rc.cups marked executable \by default? [06:19] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [06:19] slava_dp: i usually use slocate or locate file [06:19] the only thing that needs updating from time to time is updatedb ;) [06:19] after that, its nice and easy ;) [06:19] man slocate will help alot as well ;) [06:19] slava_dp: I like "locate -ir " [06:19] Zero_ultimatum (n=kashyap@117.199.171.144) joined ##slackware. [06:20] locate -ir 'zep.*stairway.*mp3' f'rexample [06:20] Urchlay, needs some regex-fu, which i lack [06:20] well, .* means "anything", the same as a * in the shell [06:20] ok, memorized that :) [06:20] uva (i=bno@114-45-227-25.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [06:21] you can also fine-tune by piping to grep (or several greps) [06:21] locate mp3 | grep -i led | grep -i zep [06:22] that i know :) used to pipe tcpdump to grep until i learned about it's built in filters. [06:23] byteframe: when you installed slackware, it gave you a list of services and you could pick which ones you wanted to run... if you told it to run cups, rc.cups will be executable, otherwise not [06:23] byteframe: otherwise check in the rc.d/ folder ;) [06:23] Urchlay, I'm well aware. [06:23] I need to know what it is by default. [06:24] afaik it's off in the installer. 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[07:44] thrice`: within this file i wrote: KERNEL=="sdb", RUN+="/usr/bin/testscript.sh" yet still nothing after plugging in my drive...am I missing some fundamental step? [07:44] The-Crou1ier (n=ksandros@static195097104200.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:45] hm, that seems a little primitive, but I'm not a great udev expert [07:46] does it have a partition on there? [07:46] I think something like this would work: [07:47] ATTRS{product}=="My Harddrive Name", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", KERNEL=="sdb1", NAME="BackupHD", RUN="/usr/bin/testscript.sh" [07:47] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [07:47] rogersman, also, be sure you do a "udevadm control --reload-rules" after you install your new rule [07:48] ae pessoal :) [07:49] im assuming udev responds to "hot-pluggable" devices....which i think is the case [07:49] rogersman, yep - be sure to reload the rules with that udevadm command before expecting them to work :> [07:50] ops!! Hello everyone [07:50] klaatu_AFK (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:51] klaatu_AFK (n=klaatu@c-24-131-254-113.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:51] thrice`: following the HINTSANDCHANGES doc, there seemed to be some change in udev functionality for slackware...just trying to track down what im doing wrong :-p [07:52] presumably udev doesnt *need* the extra fields for a device to be activated ... S/N, model ,etc [07:52] rogersman, it's nice to perfectly define the drive you want the script to run with. for example, my little usb key, and my external usb HD will both be named /dev/sdb1, so I make sure to identify that ONLY the bigger drive gets a script run with it [07:53] rogersman, no, it doesn't if you want anything with sdb, use "sdb*" [07:54] thrice: okay, well if your following the same procedures as myself with success, I must have made a syntax error...cheers for the advice...Ill keep cracking on ;-) [07:55] rogersman, a great resource is googling for "udev run backup script" , as that's a pretty common thing to do. steal someone elses ;) [07:56] 10-4 [07:56] Paz (n=Paz@70.233.161.250) left irc: Client Quit [07:59] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [07:59] ChArLoK_16 (i=42c62902@gateway/web/freenode/x-fesszlcbeybrnhzb) joined ##slackware. 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[08:04] Nick change: gar0t0 -> fellinha [08:04] Nick change: fellinha -> gar0t0 [08:05] hello [08:05] rogersman: it does need some time to configure sometimes though ;) some people love it when you just give it to them ready to go ;) [08:05] i know a lot of people who would pay just to configure simple stuff for them ;) [08:05] archiac (n=quassel@70-88-181-197-Atlanta.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [08:06] cp .kde ~/.kde - i love linux! :-D [08:06] hi dios_mio [08:06] rogersman: lol ;) [08:07] when i discovered i could do that with .mozilla preserving all addons plugins and prefs, i almost cried! [08:08] rogersman: what stopped you? [08:09] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "leaving" [08:09] The-Crou1ier: i think family guy was on the TV [08:09] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [08:09] ;) lol [08:10] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.11.144) joined ##slackware. [08:10] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.192.112) left irc: Connection timed out [08:11] seriously, a fresh install then an up and running pimped system in a couple of mins? try *that* on another OS! [08:12] i feel underserved suddenly [08:13] shyko (n=francisc@187.39.217.37) joined ##slackware. [08:13] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:13] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [08:13] prashant_ (n=prashant@122.172.110.67) left irc: "Leaving" [08:15] arcaos (n=arcaos@190.177.155.92) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:15] Nick change: The-Crou1ier -> The-Croupier [08:15] ChArLoK_16 (i=42c62902@gateway/web/freenode/x-fesszlcbeybrnhzb) left irc: "Page closed" [08:17] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-ovuiiwccmvwohink) left irc: "Page closed" [08:18] shyko (n=francisc@187.39.217.37) left ##slackware. [08:18] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-247-216-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:19] shyko (n=francisc@187.39.217.37) joined ##slackware. [08:19] alreadygone (n=silas@119.154.47.69) left irc: "Leaving" [08:20] Nick change: klaatu_AFK -> klaatu [08:20] Nick change: klaatu -> notKlaatu [08:20] hello slackers!!! [08:20] guax (n=guaxinim@201.47.74.147) joined ##slackware. [08:22] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:23] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Client Quit [08:23] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [08:24] sup you slack-hacker [08:30] arcaos (n=arcaos@190.177.163.115) joined ##slackware. [08:31] mgm (n=mgm@200.206.141.46) joined ##slackware. [08:32] nessundorma (n=mike@78.134.125.3) joined ##slackware. [08:32] mgm (n=mgm@200.206.141.46) left irc: Client Quit [08:35] k3b ftw ;) [08:36] latemus (n=m3@c-67-177-49-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:36] what is job control? [08:37] my box says 'np job control on this shell' when i boot. [08:39] agris (n=agris@80.232.193.116) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [08:40] Guest75691 (n=si@60-242-50-107.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [08:40] hello! [08:41] mgm (n=mgm@200.206.141.46) joined ##slackware. [08:41] can anyone help me set up my wireless card, im having troubles, im using slack 13 [08:41] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.11.144) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:42] smokeybandit (n=cntrfeit@207.237.64.142) joined ##slackware. [08:42] what have done so far to set it up [08:45] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:45] i installed the bcm4318 firmware [08:46] using slack package scripts [08:46] does ifconfig show the interface [08:46] no [08:46] ifconfig -a ? [08:46] iwconfig does [08:46] yes [08:46] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [08:47] Zero_ultimatum (n=kashyap@117.199.171.144) left irc: "Leaving." [08:47] ifconfig -a works [08:48] i have wlan0 and wmaster0 but am unsure what that is. as well as the usuals [08:48] try ifconfig wlan0 up [08:48] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78.134.100.40) joined ##slackware. [08:48] Guest75691: try use wicd :) [08:49] slawocorp (i=slawocor@platinum.edu.pl) left ##slackware. [08:50] Nick change: madbear_ -> madbear [08:50] ness1d0rma (n=mike@78-134-82-38.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [08:50] thanks it doesnt work tho [08:50] anyone living in us.. is it as dangeraus as they say it is? [08:50] Action: The-Croupier thinking of visiting.. :( [08:50] The-Croupier: what do they say? [08:50] The-Croupier: is what as dangerous? [08:50] is the US dangerous? of course not [08:50] just living in general u mean? [08:51] Guest75691: configure wicd and "be happy" [08:51] I have guns..I'm safe [08:51] i dont think you can generalise a nation twice as big as europe... [08:51] the-croupier: where are you from [08:51] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:52] greece [08:52] i will try wicd, thanks [08:52] though the crime statistics are pretty scary i must admit [08:52] thinking of going to san diego california but heard lots of nice stories about it [08:52] depends on the city, of course [08:52] something like people getting shot for no apparent reason in the street ...etc [08:52] cathy_chang1 (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) joined ##slackware. [08:52] no more dangerous than 4am in metaxourgio! [08:53] ness1d0rma (n=mike@78-134-82-38.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Client Quit [08:53] ness1d0rma (n=mike@78-134-82-38.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [08:53] rogersman: are you greek? [08:53] ness1d0rma (n=mike@78-134-82-38.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [08:54] oxi re, alla xero kalo athenas! [08:54] ego ime apo to scotia [08:54] rogersman: i see... [08:54] Action: rogersman pushes a button and goes back to english lol [08:55] ness1d0rma (n=mike@78-134-82-38.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [08:55] rogersman: ive been in newcastle and edinburgh...loved it to bits..wanted to see something else though... [08:55] cathy_chang1 (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) left ##slackware. [08:55] i'de love to visit the south of USA...a bourbon trail would be great [08:55] there are a lot of people putting me off on this though [08:55] im in edinburgh now....newcastle? come on resi, another english shithole...hehe [08:55] The-Croupier: china is worse [08:55] nessundorma (n=mike@78.134.125.3) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:56] anyonw know what job control is? man, i screwed this server somehow.. [08:56] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-dyeasaspvegdjgnu) joined ##slackware. [08:56] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [08:56] latemus: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+job+control [08:56] straterra: im not looking for worst ... looking for impressions or opinions on the us ;) [08:56] It's like anything [08:57] You have good and bad areas [08:57] straterra: ;) thank you [08:57] The-Croupier: is think "safe" is a very subjective perception...keep ur head down and dont do anything daft, and Im sure almost all of america will be fine to visit [08:58] tho apparently one doesnt use ATMs' at night? is that true? [08:58] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78.134.100.40) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:00] lmao. touche Zordak [09:01] Zordrak: heh [09:02] Nick change: ness1d0rma -> nessundorma [09:02] rogersman: depends on which corner you're on [09:02] hitest: is that your site [09:02] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:03] >.< [09:04] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [09:05] The-Croupier: where u at in greece? [09:05] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) joined ##slackware. [09:08] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:09] so.. what could cause a shell to 'not have job control?' [09:09] sorry - /dev/console not worky [09:10] IOW - failed boot and /dev not being properly populated [09:10] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [09:10] Agiofws_ (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425453.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:11] Linux-IRC (n=Linux-IR@unaffiliated/easy) joined ##slackware. [09:11] hmm.. [09:11] Hello, [09:12] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-169.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:12] this happened after i edited rc.local to start ircd [09:12] rogersman: Athens pireaus ;) [09:12] but that seems like a stretch [09:12] Linux-IRC (n=Linux-IR@unaffiliated/easy) left ##slackware. [09:12] The-Croupier: u know a girl call evi giannatou? [09:12] latemus: ... [09:13] rogersman: there around 5million people in athens :( [09:13] i wouldnt mind meeting her though ;) [09:13] if you have her number ;) [09:13] shyko (n=francisc@187.39.217.37) left irc: ""murçá"" [09:13] lol [09:13] lowkyalur (n=low@82.82.64.169) joined ##slackware. [09:13] get in the queue [09:13] well shes from piraues...and damn hot hehe....she living in seriphos at the mo [09:14] dive: im first in the queue she lives near me ;) [09:14] maciuszek (n=maciusze@141.117.180.11) joined ##slackware. [09:14] so what could cause /dev/ to not populate properly [09:14] Guest75691 (n=si@60-242-50-107.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: [09:14] latemus: are you in single user mode? [09:14] The-Croupier: i think theres enough gorgoues greek women to go around mate! [09:14] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425453.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:14] rogersman: ive been around alot...;) maybe i need some new ones ;) [09:14] did u help burn the christmas tree last year? that was funny [09:15] nooper: it seems that way. 'who' gives blank response, so i assume so [09:15] Nick change: g4tt0 -> g4tt1ngher [09:15] and it drops me into a shell at / [09:15] rogersman: no, i had more important things to do ;) [09:15] latemus: with lots of error messages before it? [09:15] latemus, what does the 'runlevel' command output? [09:15] not any error messages. [09:16] it starts deamons, runs rc scripts then just prints no job controll on this shell and im in / [09:16] The-Croupier: I take it u had a date in omonia hehe [09:17] Nick change: g4tt1ngher -> g4tt0 [09:17] rogersman: there are better places than that... and thank god i know most of them ;) [09:17] bordela! [09:18] Action: rogersman is away for a while... [09:18] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-yevmeoilpxedstbf) left ##slackware. [09:18] dive: runlevel cmd not work [09:18] but dmesg says it went multiuser [09:19] although i never logged in [09:19] latemus, try /sbin/runlevel [09:19] k [09:19] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:19] says 'N 3' [09:20] then you aren't single user [09:20] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:20] hmm [09:20] normal multiuser [09:20] okay [09:21] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425453.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:22] also, the virtual terminals are inaccessible [09:22] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:23] however, i think it was caused be the first line i put in /etc/rc.d/rc.local - su m; [09:23] i keep adding a widget to my panel by right clicking where i want it to go then adding it in the menu but it appears on the wrong side how do i specify where it goes [09:23] this is in kde4 [09:24] isn't there a way to lock it? [09:25] gyroscope (n=master@81.214.156.126) joined ##slackware. [09:26] oobe: if you wanna move a widget on your panel just click on the right most button on yoru panel and from there yoru able to move all your widgets on sed panel [09:26] oobe: thats assuming you dont have yoru widgets locked [09:26] ha! that was the issue. [09:27] latemus, why did you try to change user in rc.local? [09:27] is there a was to script to start a service as a certain user from rc.local? [09:28] agris (n=agris@80.232.193.2) joined ##slackware. [09:28] because i dont want to start ircd as root [09:28] which will happen if i dont [09:28] Action: Zordrak is doing a mini-amazon spree for his IT dept of one.. wondering what else to put on the list.. (USB keys, air duster, superglue so far) [09:28] oobe: If you bring up the panel settings, you can then drag the widgets around on the panel. Be sure to lock your widgets after you are done. [09:29] latemus, I use '/bin/su dive -c /some/command' and that works fine [09:29] ok got it thanks [09:29] ahh, thanks dive. ill try it [09:29] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Client Quit [09:29] rodolpho_ (n=rodolpho@200.202.122.5) joined ##slackware. [09:30] gyroscope (n=master@81.214.156.126) joined ##slackware. [09:30] rodolpho_ (n=rodolpho@200.202.122.5) left irc: Client Quit [09:30] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-141.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:30] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78.134.122.168) joined ##slackware. [09:34] Masterx831, you around i just found a nice script on my system that will flush your firewall rules [09:35] dive: that did the trick. thanks again [09:35] padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.66.250) joined ##slackware. [09:35] np [09:37] maciuszek (n=maciusze@141.117.180.11) left irc: "Leaving" [09:37] w3b3r (n=tomasz@dynamic-78-8-167-117.ssp.dialog.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:37] what small IT-related stuff would you want to buy if you could? [09:37] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:37] have added DVD+Rs, electrical tap, cable ties [09:38] Action: Zordrak is out of everything [09:39] Anthony__ (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [09:39] see you soon everybody ;) [09:39] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@static195097104200.dsl.hol.gr) left ##slackware. [09:39] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [09:40] route [09:42] Zordrak, cat5 connectors? :) [09:42] gottem :) [09:42] also added some Akasa TIM Clean to the list [09:43] duct tape and wd40 [09:43] fix everything [09:43] akasa... is that a thermal grease? [09:43] dont forget the paperclips [09:43] geting electrical tape.. dont use duct so much and Admin have some i can use.. same for wd40 [09:43] slava_dp: its a thermal compound remover [09:43] citrus based cleaner.. its awesome [09:43] i love slaptet && http://gnomeslackbuild.org [09:44] isopropyl alcohol? [09:44] ah citrus [09:44] ecmicro (n=jam@client-75-102-118-241.mobility-up.psu.edu) joined ##slackware. [09:44] have all the paperclips ill ever need [09:45] how about a stiff artists paintbrush to clear out the dust and fluff from heatsinks, boards etc? [09:45] i use airduster for that [09:45] and its on the list :) [09:45] yeah but sometimes a good scrub helps too [09:45] as are 2 16GB Kingston DataTraveller DT100s :) [09:46] loosens up some of the stubborn bits [09:46] latemus (n=m3@c-67-177-49-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [09:46] prashant_ (n=prashant@122.172.110.67) joined ##slackware. [09:46] andy (n=andy@ppp079166018114.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:46] coffee and munchies [09:46] fig rolls especially [09:46] Nick change: andy -> Guest54849 [09:47] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.84.86) left irc: Connection reset by peer [09:47] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.84.86) joined ##slackware. [09:49] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A53B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:52] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-dyeasaspvegdjgnu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:52] hello everyone [09:53] poof (i=poof@195.226.161.149) joined ##slackware. [09:53] hi [09:53] does cron daemon reads from /etc/crontab under slack ? [09:55] nessundorma (n=mike@78-134-82-38.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:56] Nick change: nessundorma_ -> nessundorma [09:56] prashant_ (n=prashant@122.172.110.67) left irc: "Leaving" [09:57] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [10:00] poof, /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root [10:00] poof, use crontab -e to edit it [10:01] slava_dp: thanks [10:01] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166000235.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Nick collision from services. [10:01] crontabs/user even. [10:01] Nick change: Guest54849 -> anreas-- [10:01] Nick change: anreas-- -> andreas-- [10:02] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.5.175) joined ##slackware. [10:02] poof, you can also place your scripts to /etc/cron.* to be executed periodically. [10:03] Woo.. financial director is on crack today.. i dont think he even looked at the value before signing it.. let alone the individual items [10:05] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65219cf.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:10] Zordrak, should have got yourself a salary increase while he was stoned :) [10:13] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:15] other_rafa (i=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) joined ##slackware. [10:17] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [10:17] Anthony__ (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:21] StevenR (n=foo@wan2.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:22] slava_dp: only works for small things [10:23] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:23] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [10:23] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:24] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:25] I don't have access to a slackware machine right now and need to help someone which ethernet interface name changed from eth0 to eth1 I believe, what's the file to change? [10:26] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:27] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) left irc: "leaving" [10:27] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [10:27] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]" [10:27] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:28] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207009097.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:28] Camarade_Tux, /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf? [10:28] Hi [10:29] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:30] and/or /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules [10:30] that's where the ethN are set I believe [10:30] lowkyalur (n=low@82.82.64.169) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [10:30] Nick_Patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-svyunevovblubxwb) joined ##slackware. [10:31] Masterx841 (n=masterx8@adsl-235-239-98.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [10:32] Camarade_Tux, yep [10:32] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:32] Hmmm, I think I'll see that when I get back home, wifi should work well enough I hope and I'd need to give a vi primer over email in less than 8 minutes :p [10:32] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:33] plus, hmmmm [10:33] has he chaned network cards or something? [10:34] changed* [10:34] can move that file out of there and restart udev [10:34] it *shold* pick up from scratch [10:35] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:35] gogind (n=gogind@93-137-26-250.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [10:35] hi [10:35] StevenR_ (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:36] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:36] could any1 here help me? [10:36] possibly [10:36] hehe :) [10:36] kidpunkx_ (n=kidpunkx@adsl-235-239-98.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [10:36] i deleted my rc.3 file... [10:36] Somebody work with friendly arm here? [10:36] dont ask me how... [10:36] oops [10:37] how can I make a new 1? [10:37] gogind, there is no rc.3. [10:38] gogind, use the channel to speak please. [10:38] yeah I just looked for that [10:38] mean rc.M? [10:38] /etc/rc.d/rc.3 [10:38] gogind, you are not using slackware, are you? [10:39] gogind: what distro are you on? [10:39] slack 13 [10:39] gogind, cat /etc/*version* /etc/*release* [10:39] gotta go now, at least wifi is working [10:39] w8... [10:39] gogind: then you are lying or very very misinformed [10:39] just a name switch [10:39] just a sec... [10:40] francog (i=francog@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: "leaving" [10:41] haha [10:41] I am so stupid [10:41] yes :D [10:41] nvm guys ty [10:41] gogind, tell us [10:41] Masterx831 (n=masterx8@adsl-85-40-111.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:42] kidpunkx1 (n=kidpunkx@adsl-235-239-98.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [10:42] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.5.175) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [10:43] http://98.85.40.111/ [10:43] does this works? [10:43] nop [10:43] andreas-- just got trojaned =) [10:43] :D [10:43] I did "mv /pa/th/something_i_need_in_rc3.d /etc/rc.d/rc.3" insted /etc/rc.d/rc3.d [10:44] so I thought i overwritted rc.3 [10:44] gogind, so that's apparently not slackware, is it? [10:44] other_rafa (i=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) left irc: "Leaving" [10:44] it is [10:44] 13.0 [10:45] Masterx831 (n=masterx8@adsl-235-239-98.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [10:45] gogind: can you paste cat /etc/slackware-version exactly here? [10:45] sure... [10:45] _exactly_ [10:45] init[1]: too late.. too irrelevant [10:45] kidpunkx1, you around i just found a nice script on my system that will flush your firewall rules [10:45] Zordrak: lets see :P [10:45] he moved rc3.d to rc.3.. thats it.. end of story [10:45] gogind: there is no /etc/rc.d/rc.3 [10:45] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:45] Masterx831, you around i just found a nice script on my system that will flush your firewall rules [10:46] Slackware 13.0.0.0.0 [10:46] oobe: yeah, me too its called reboot [10:46] oobe: its called iptables -F [10:46] gogind: hm ;) [10:46] :] [10:46] Zordrak: see the 4 zeroz ? [10:46] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:46] spook, that wont drop all rules [10:46] if he is lie ing that wouldn't be there [10:46] why would I lie [10:47] oobe: yes it will. [10:47] oobe, give me one sec.. buddy [10:47] init[1]: uh. go do it for yourself. [10:47] init[1]: youre about 5 mins behind the conversation [10:47] spook, my mistake i just checked it again [10:47] oobe: dont argue with me about iptables :) [10:47] gogind: people come here telling they are using slack,but they will not be ,just to check that ;) [10:48] Zordrak: yea i know,i'm off now :) [10:48] oobe: iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT && iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT && iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT && iptables -F [10:48] ah... well sorry again [10:48] snL20, yea that is what i had in the script [10:48] anyway... its all easy stuff [10:49] i just use iptables-restore and iptables-save [10:49] I keep a script just in case iptables-restore takes a dump due to file corruption [10:51] alisonken1noc: iptables-save > filename and read filename :) [10:51] iptables-save creates a binary file - always safe to keep a script handy in case of binary file dump :) [10:52] alisonken1noc: uh. no. [10:52] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [10:52] I thought it was plain text? [10:52] iptables-save is used to dump the contents of an IP Table in easily [10:52] parseable format to STDOUT. Use I/O-redirection provided by your shell [10:52] to write to a file. [10:52] ooops, sorry for the line breaks. [10:53] ok - it's been a few years since I played with it [10:53] one more line and you'd get out of here :) [10:53] although what it all means I wouldn't know [10:53] gogind (n=gogind@93-137-26-250.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: "Leaving" [10:53] alisonken1noc: again, dont argue with me about iptables :P [10:53] spook: :) [10:53] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [10:54] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-198-176.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:54] Masterx851 (n=masterx8@adsl-235-224-56.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [10:55] kidpunkx_ (n=kidpunkx@adsl-235-239-98.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:55] have a good evening folks. 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[11:05] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:08] certainly seems like a db server backend would only be appropritate for large scale implementations and would actually be detrimental to performance with only a small zone set [11:08] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:09] overheard overhead? [11:09] Zordrak: i was thinking the opposite would be the best case. [11:10] heh [11:10] this is true Zordrak, it is indeed geared towards a larger setup. [11:10] Masterx851 (n=masterx8@adsl-235-224-56.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:10] if I place a script in cron.daily, how do I see what time it will run? [11:10] but it definately allows an easy way to add easy hosting registration scripts too [11:11] The_Seeker: better use crontab -e and set your timings [11:11] The_Seeker: read crontab -l [11:12] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:12] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:12] spook: I was going to use crontab (as I used to on Debian) but I was curious about cron.daily [11:12] The_Seeker: read crontab -l it will tell you when cron.daily is executed. [11:13] oops, my comment was directed at init[1] [11:13] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) joined ##slackware. [11:13] spook: thanks, will do that [11:13] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:13] =) [11:14] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-247-216-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:14] Nick change: _bruno_ -> _bruno [11:14] nixchix0r: sup chixor? 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[11:49] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Client Quit [11:49] spook: ah ok,i will not,i kinda have weakness to share stuffs [11:49] so share, just in the OT [11:49] init[1]: yeah.. don't [11:49] get excited quick :) [11:49] .. again [11:49] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:49] Zordrak: spook ok :( [11:50] init[1]: dont become quiznos [11:50] speaking of which, he get klined again? [11:50] o_O was like me ? [11:51] he would just post random news shit and links in here constantly [11:52] ah ok,well i stop my weakness here :) [11:53] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [11:53] spook: can only hope [11:53] Zordrak: me too. [11:54] 16:54:02 [FreeNode] -!- Quiznos There was no such nickname [11:54] I would love to change the world, but they won't give me the source code. [11:54] :) [11:54] Zordrak: :) [11:55] toastytoast: what if ,you don't have the compiler? [11:55] lol [11:55] good point [11:55] i'll make one [11:55] or atleast i'll try to [11:55] if you could be any fictional character, who would you be? [11:56] me ? [11:56] either captian planet [11:56] or Cou from elemental Gelade [11:56] init[1]: open question to the floor [11:56] giuppy (n=giuppy@host73-52-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:56] becasue being a sky pirate would be pretty awesome [11:56] hm..let me think [11:56] and captain planet well he's a hero [11:57] I would be ash ketchum [11:57] Yeah cause theres a single person youd choose OTHER than superman... whatever [11:57] spook: tux [11:57] okay. well. i'd be God. :) [11:57] coz i lead slackware :P [11:57] you have to ask the question with the modifier "except superman" [11:58] captain planet > than superman [11:58] i like my answer the best. [11:58] even if i did steal it from bash.org [11:58] spook: how come god is fictional ? [11:58] init[1]: i'm an atheist. [11:58] capt planet is a wuss.. [11:58] spook: o_o [11:58] no [11:58] he's a hero [11:58] i'd be macguyver. [11:59] and he is going to take polution down to ZERO! [11:59] Picard [11:59] spook: that all time hacker :P [11:59] where ever he goes , he would even manage to excape with a paper clip [11:59] plus he also has mullet power [11:59] spook, lol "Exception Handler" [11:59] Scuzz: yeah, corporal punishment is taken [12:00] another good one was Sir Cumference. [12:00] Zordrak: you are already one right? [12:00] haha [12:00] _Zordrak_ [12:00] john_dee (n=id@95-29-9-214.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:00] Orgcazmo? [12:00] Miguel (i=1000@adsl-235-213-125.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [12:00] Scuzz: so as a nerd, you find exception handler funny? [12:00] Orgazmo? [12:00] yeah [12:00] awesome. thats my name then. [12:00] i was worried nerdy people wouldnt find it funny [12:01] not worried about normal people not getting it [12:01] Nick change: Miguel -> Guest32503 [12:01] Zordrak: i have no idea what that means [12:01] spook, its a good one [12:01] Scuzz: especially for a ref. [12:01] >.< http://lmgtfy.com/?q=orgazmo [12:01] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:02] what do you have to do to qualify to ref these things ? [12:02] Scuzz: theres the qualification process on wftda.com [12:02] ahh [12:03] but the rules say you only need one qualified ref for a game, the others dont need to have qualifications [12:03] but obviously they need to be somewhat okay [12:03] Zordrak: can you explain why http://www.google.com/search?q=Orgcazmo that failed for me? [12:03] yeah makes sense [12:03] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-247-216-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:03] it never showed any result [12:04] v4nelle (n=van@adsl172-222.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:04] Zordrak: i guess the problem might be safesearch :P [12:04] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [12:04] uhh. or that you didnt notice i corrected the typo [12:04] and then pasted a lmgtfy [12:05] nvm,just found that out :) [12:06] hugohagogo (n=cleber@189.23.230.11) joined ##slackware. [12:08] The Internet: where men are men, women are men, and children are FBI agents. [12:08] toastytoast: the same unfunny line from bash.org, from about 10 years ago [12:08] hahaha [12:08] i see [12:08] still very valid [12:09] i found it on geek24.com [12:09] but old an unfunny and repeated way too much [12:09] http://www.geek24.com/g/2006/06/13/absolutely-hilarious-computer-quotes [12:09] toastytoast: recycled from bash.org. [12:09] _bruno (n=bruno@189-55-33-53-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:10] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:11] wb fire|bird [12:11] kidpunkx1 (n=kidpunkx@adsl-235-213-125.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:12] thanks init[1] :) [12:12] hmmmm [12:12] Action: Necos stabs fire|bird [12:12] :) [12:13] Guest93655 (n=masterx8@adsl-235-213-125.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:13] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-159-231.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:13] nooper_ (n=nooper@unaffiliated/nooper) joined ##slackware. [12:13] Necos: fire|bird might have ACTIONS ignored [12:14] I'm at a loss here. htop as root reports cpu usage at 100% on one core. But nothing is using 0.2% cpu. [12:14] kidpunkx1 (i=1000@adsl-235-213-125.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [12:14] Action: fire|bird stabs Necos [12:14] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [12:14] Necos: nvm [12:14] init[1]: no, just Necos ignored in general. :P [12:14] j/k [12:15] bah, telinit1 here we go [12:15] me :P ? [12:15] hiptobecubic: i'm already in 1 :P [12:15] lol [12:15] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: "leaving" [12:15] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) joined ##slackware. [12:16] Action: Necos stabs fire|bird again for good measure [12:16] The_Seeker (n=seeker@90.200.153.19) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:16] Necos: good going genius, you stabbed me in the same spot twice. :P [12:17] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:17] hehe [12:17] what can i say? i have good aim [12:18] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [12:18] heh, i didn't realize mozilla lightning is now a thunderbird addon >.<; [12:18] Necos: I seen a youtube video last night for COD MW2 and the guy threw a knife, just at random, and got a kill out of it. :P [12:19] hahaha [12:19] Necos: yeah, been a plugin for a while, and as of TBird 3, it will be included as part of TBird. [12:19] err, s/plugin/addon/ [12:19] yeah, i really wish TBird would get full exchange support at some point... :( [12:20] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [12:20] n1hub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:20] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.141) left irc: No route to host [12:20] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.82.141) joined ##slackware. [12:22] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) joined ##slackware. [12:23] hello guys, I'm getting a pop up window with title "Password kio_thumbmail" and it asks for a password (Please enter the password to open this file.) what is this?? I think it started happening after I started using gpg-agent (for kmail gpg keys) [12:24] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [12:24] P4C0: how did you set gpg-agent? [12:24] Well that was a damn disaster [12:24] hcfd (n=fed@host86-131-171-200.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [12:24] <3 sysrq [12:24] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:24] sahk0: in the evn directory as kmail guide said [12:25] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.199.222.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:26] oh thats the right way. theres a guide here: http://developer.gauner.org/kmail-pgpmime/index.en.html i used that combined with the .xsession Slackware script. but dont get that thing you get. did you set pinetry-qt to "pop up" ? [12:26] Reaver2 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [12:26] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:26] clijunkie (i=1000@mail.webmasterforhire.net) joined ##slackware. [12:27] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [12:27] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "cliente" [12:28] PenPerk1 (n=carlj@71.246.216.235) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [12:28] PenPerk1 (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:28] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:28] Nick change: n1hub -> nlhub [12:28] Hello, I'm using a new install of Slackware64 current with alien's multilibs. I have an ATI FireGL V5200 card and the ati installer fails when # sh ati-driver-installer-8.583-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Slackware/All is executed with the return error being ERROR: i dont' have make module [12:29] this guide is better than the userbase one. imho [12:29] nooper (n=nooper@unaffiliated/nooper) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:29] This occurred on a stable, current, and pre multilib version as well. [12:29] Axius (n=ade@92.85.16.128) left irc: "Leaving" [12:29] I've tried older versions with the same problem. [12:30] sahk0: yes, well it works ok with kmail/gpg... but then if I open the attachment window and go to a directory that has pictures i get a pop up window asking for password... to see the thubmail? that's the strange part :p [12:30] Anyone else have this problem or card? [12:30] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.199.222.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:30] sahk0: i just cancel it, but it's a bit annoying [12:30] clijunkie: i'd say temporarily remove the *compat32* [12:30] don't have make module... sounds like you're missing headers [12:31] he said it happened before multilib tho nyRednek [12:31] sahk0: or maybe is a weird picture that has something else... danm pr0n :p [12:31] P4C0: hhmm have seen that. but i dont think ive ever attached pics. maybe ask in #kde or the KDE mailing lists (kdepim) [12:31] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [12:32] sahk0: thanks, I asked in kde but no reply yet :) anyways is not that important... I'm just curious hehe [12:32] naturally, i would be too [12:32] Matze525 (n=Matze@95-89-141-80-dynip.superkabel.de) joined ##slackware. [12:33] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-141.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [12:33] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [12:33] Necos: It was a full install, just double checked that kernel-headers is installed. [12:33] Strangely enough I installed Slackware 13 (32bit) in VirtualBox and wasn't able to run the installer either. Had the same error. [12:34] you tried with an older driverset? [12:35] hi [12:35] What I could find. The ati site doesn't link to old ones and I've just been fishing in google. [12:35] I went back as far as 8.01 [12:35] same err? [12:36] Matze525 (n=Matze@95-89-141-80-dynip.superkabel.de) left irc: "Verlassend" [12:36] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:37] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:37] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [12:37] Necos: yes, more verbose output, but same error message [12:38] can you pastebin? [12:38] sure [12:38] urban3 (n=urban@c-94-255-165-174.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:38] StevenR_ (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:38] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:38] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:39] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [12:39] Necos: http://pastebin.ca/1673704 [12:39] in 64bit slack, were the X lib / include directories changed? [12:39] Just the error portion. [12:39] Camarade_Tux: wheres my beer. [12:39] neonflux (n=neonflux@209.19.58.106) joined ##slackware. [12:39] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.199.222) joined ##slackware. [12:40] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/i-dont-have-make-module-749882/ [12:41] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:41] jhw (n=jhw@p548F507D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:41] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.82) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:42] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:42] Necos: read through that and the linked post. I guess I'm just SOL unless I feel like trying another kernel [12:43] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:43] replay (n=replay@69.26.224.130) joined ##slackware. [12:43] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [12:44] do a gcc -V [12:44] errr, -v [12:44] replay (n=replay@69.26.224.130) left ##slackware. [12:45] necos [12:46] Zero_ultimatum (n=kashyap@117.199.161.56) joined ##slackware. [12:46] sup jeev? [12:47] nothing [12:47] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [12:47] jeev: lighttpd or apache ? [12:47] dunno, i've used apache forevfer but lighttpd is cool [12:48] jeev: ok,cool [12:48] Necos: 4.3.3 [12:48] jeev: i like lighttpd's directory index listing page thingy [12:48] heh [12:48] doing a little more research, it looks like the ati thing is kernel related >.> [12:49] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:49] clijunkie, and i should have known that since i'm also running slack13 [12:49] are ATI graphics card supported in slackware 13.0? [12:49] oh cool [12:49] jhw (n=jhw@p548F507D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:49] slack64 -crurent has 4.3.3 [12:50] is it safe to take the slack64 13.0 and slackpkg it up to current ? [12:50] Zero_ultimatum: All ATI cards up to the x1950 should have 3D acceleration after a straight install. All newer cards will require the kernel in /testing for 2D acceleration. [12:50] both stable and current carry the same gcc version [12:50] jhw (n=jhw@p548F507D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:50] jhw (n=jhw@p548F507D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:50] adamk_: okay [12:51] gonna test it in a bit [12:51] jhw (n=jhw@p548F507D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:52] adamk_: I have just installed Slackware 13.0..had been using FreeBSD and ubuntu [12:52] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.199.222) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:52] clijunkie: Isn't your FireGL v5200 an r500 GPU? If it is, it's been dropped from fglrx since April of this year. [12:52] Zero_ultimatum: from what i know, slackware is more like freebsd than ubuntu [12:52] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-74-209-11-2.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:52] Zero_ultimatum: What card do you have? [12:53] nyRednek: Yeah as far as I think it is [12:53] john_dee (n=id@95-29-9-214.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [12:53] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:53] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [12:54] tvn2009 (n=tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) joined ##slackware. [12:54] adamk_, it also seems that the ati drivers from earlier this year don't support the newer kernel versions either [12:54] adamk_: I am having Nvidia GeForce GTS250 [12:54] Necos: Correct. Or the 1.6.* X server. [12:54] Zero_ultimatum: Oh... So is there any reason you were asking about ATI cards? :-) [12:55] adamk_: having ATI HD RADEON 4750  in my Laptop [12:55] toastytoast (n=toast@208.233.36.250) left irc: "leaving" [12:55] adamk_: was thinking to install it in Laptop too [12:55] yep... so clijunkie might be SOL with slack13 and the ati prop. driver [12:55] StevenR (n=foo@wan2.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:55] Necos: Going to try the testing kernel, see if that makes any difference, but I think you are right. [12:55] but that means you should try the radeonhd driver clijunkie :) [12:56] hmm [12:56] clijunkie: What's the output of 'lspci | grep -i vga'? [12:56] And, no, no, stick with the 'radeon' driver. [12:56] slackmagic (i=1000@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:56] (If fglrx doesn't work). [12:57] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M56GL [Mobility FireGL V5200] [12:57] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.199.222.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:57] adamk_, i've been using radeonhd for a while now, heh... [12:57] Anyone here running Slackware 13.0 with the huge kernel and no initrd? I need you to test something for me. [12:57] The only reason I want any of this beyond vesa is for the dual monitor ability. [12:57] Necos: Oh, I still significantly prefer radeon to radeonhd. [12:57] clijunkie: Either 'radeon' or 'radeonhd' will support dualhead via xrandr. [12:58] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [12:58] i've actually been using radeonhd since 1.2.1 >.> [12:58] Alan_Hicks: shoot [12:59] hmmm, did slack13 use an initrd by default? [12:59] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.82.141) left irc: No route to host [12:59] sahk0: Can you reboot and pass the "single" option to the kernel when the LILO menu opens? I need to verify if that actually puts you into runlevel 1. [13:00] i'v e never seen slackware use initrd [13:00] jeev: Then you've never used the generic kernel. Shame on you. [13:00] Alan_Hicks: ok.brb [13:00] ;) [13:00] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [13:00] i dunno man i've never seeni t [13:00] i always use hugesmp.s >.> [13:01] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:01] so i heard jeev used the wrong slackware [13:02] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:02] adamk_: do you go for Fluxbox or xfce4?..or just CLI [13:03] Zero_ultimatum: Mostly xfce4 these days. Sometimes KDE4. [13:03] nope jg71 [13:03] good old xfce [13:03] I see [13:03] fvwm fvwm [13:03] I keep meaning to try fluxbox but i just don't see why. I don't need it any lighter than this [13:04] which email client you use on xfc4? [13:04] claws-mail [13:04] claws-mail ftw!!! [13:04] claws-mail :-) [13:04] pine [13:04] haha [13:04] fluxbox is more light and effiecient? [13:04] All shall bow before the altar of claws. [13:04] A91501 X1950XTX BIOS [13:05] it doesn't ships with slackware... does it? [13:05] P4C0: no. but there is a build script on SBo [13:06] BP{k}: ok, I'm thinking of giving xfc4 a try... one of this days... and using kmail there doesn't seem right :p [13:06] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:06] Alan_Hicks: yeap runlevel 1 [13:06] sahk0: Thanks. [13:07] ugh, has anyone downloaded the lightning.xpi file? [13:07] bbl [13:07] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [13:07] Necos: yeah, why? [13:07] oh damn DTA was being a bitch, but it just downloaded >.<; [13:07] lol [13:09] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-141.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:12] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [13:13] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.141) joined ##slackware. [13:13] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [13:14] merciful (n=merciful@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:14] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:14] hmmm, random question... [13:15] arent they all [13:15] were any of the macbooks (not pro) intel based? [13:15] i can't remember for the life of me [13:15] pretty sure all macbooks are now. [13:16] i have an older one here in my office, was thinking if i could slack13-64 it [13:16] merciful (n=merciful@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left ##slackware. [13:16] merciful (n=merciful@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:16] 64bit? unlikely, imo [13:16] i guess i could fire it up and check sys props [13:17] although... [13:17] just try booting the slack13-64 dvd [13:17] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:17] itll bork if you cant run it ;) [13:17] Nick change: fau__ -> fAu [13:17] merciful (n=merciful@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left ##slackware. [13:19] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:21] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: "End Of Line..." [13:21] padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.66.250) left irc: "Going to bed" [13:22] i've been wanting another linux lappy, so if i can get this to work, i'd be quite pleased [13:22] hmmm, 2.1GHz intel core 2 duo (should run 64bit) [13:23] runs fine [13:26] Necos: look for the lm flag [13:26] powtrix, slack64 on a mackbook? [13:26] w3b3r (n=tomasz@dynamic-78-8-167-117.ssp.dialog.net.pl) left ##slackware. [13:26] lm? [13:26] oh macbook... dunno [13:26] werdan7 (n=w7@freenode/staff/wikimedia.werdan7) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:26] lol [13:26] interbook ok [13:26] Action: Alan_Hicks is running Slackware-13.0 64-bit on a Macbook right now. [13:26] Necos: long mode. /proc/cpuinfo [13:26] iGaucho (n=mark@72.8.66.74) joined ##slackware. [13:26] vaibhav (n=landy@122.167.85.22) joined ##slackware. [13:26] Action: Alan_Hicks has been for a year or so. [13:27] clijunkie (i=1000@mail.webmasterforhire.net) left ##slackware. [13:29] well, that's what i needed to know Alan_Hicks [13:30] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:30] and you used refit? [13:31] spook, /proc doesn't exist in osx >.> [13:31] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [13:31] heh. [13:32] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:32] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: "leaving" [13:32] hehe [13:33] Zero_ultimatum (n=kashyap@117.199.161.56) left ##slackware. [13:33] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [13:35] Alan_Hicks, how'd you go about installing it? [13:35] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:36] Axius (n=ade@92.85.25.57) joined ##slackware. [13:37] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [13:37] Fantom (n=ghost@78.90.113.108) joined ##slackware. [13:37] magic fairies [13:37] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [13:37] and more than likely an intel macbook :P [13:37] #!/bin/sh [13:37] export LC_ALL='bg_BG.UTF-8' [13:38] Nick change: Fantom -> Guest98035 [13:38] Dominian, you fail at reading backlog :P [13:38] i have .xsessionrc [13:38] Nick change: Guest98035 -> jeronimo [13:38] i have an intel macbook [13:38] what is wrong? [13:38] Necos: yes.. yes I do [13:38] which is why i'm asking about how he went about installing slack64 on it :P [13:39] ah, i thought lightning would embed sunbird in TB >.<; [13:39] iGaucho (n=mark@72.8.66.74) left ##slackware. [13:39] Action: fire|bird stabs Necos [13:39] Action: Necos stabs fire|bird in the same spot for the third time [13:39] Necos: No, it doesn't. [13:39] Necos: do you use lighttpd ? [13:39] it used to [13:40] Necos: really? [13:40] no, i grok apache2 [13:40] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.141) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:40] pre-0.8 [13:40] just awesome: http://www.skytopia.com/project/fractal/mandelbulb.html [13:40] Necos: k [13:40] Necos: Hmm, didn't know that. [13:40] what about lighttpd? [13:41] Necos: just curious about it, using it atm just for kicks [13:42] if you're going to use lighttpd, you should be using fastcgi :) [13:43] Necos: hmmm k :) [13:44] fire|bird, that's where the lightning project came from (TB + SB) [13:44] Necos: yeah, I did know that, but I didn't know that it used to be an embedded Sunbird. I have never used Thunderbird enough to know what exactly it did. :P [13:45] lol [13:45] vaibhav (n=landy@122.167.85.22) left irc: "Leaving" [13:45] There are 2 kinds of people in the world. [13:45] Necos: Thanks for your wisdom. :) [13:45] 1. Those who need closure. [13:45] yeah, when i was looking for a replacement for outlook, i stumbled upon it [13:45] spook: yup, there's you, and then the rest of us. [13:46] since you can't use outlook in linux, i needed something that was similar so i had TB + SB via lightning [13:46] and i try to keep my windows boxen at home as close to my linux box at work as possible [13:48] Necos: bah, just s/windows/linux, problem solved. :P [13:48] as i did [13:48] but now, it looks like i can kill sunbird and use TB + lightning [13:48] all my HDDs s/ntfs/ext4. happy [13:48] Action: fire|bird is thankful his nick is *fire*bird and not *sun*bird. [13:48] oh, i'll just kill you too fire|bird :) [13:49] The-Croupier (n=The-Crou@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [13:49] killbill :p [13:49] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-169.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [13:49] Necos: gee, thanks. So nice you know you won't leave people out. :P [13:49] never! [13:49] s/you know/to know/ :P [13:49] greetings everybody...;) [13:49] greetings The-Croupier [13:49] The-Croupier: Necos has stabbed me 3 times. :/ [13:49] jhw (n=jhw@p548F507D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [13:50] Action: The-Croupier stabs fire|bird [13:50] hey The-Croupier... long time no see [13:50] lol [13:50] Necos, yeah bro..;) how are you doing? [13:51] alright... birthday was yesterday... i'm in the last year of my 20s lol [13:51] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: "me dont know what this means >>> ???" [13:51] congrats man [13:51] happy bd ;) [13:51] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [13:51] your are becoming a man slowly ;) [13:52] going to eat something for 10mins..and coming back with lots of questions ;) [13:52] lol [13:52] Necos, will you be around ? or you visiting us for little time ;) [13:53] LITesterB (n=Bob@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [13:54] i'll be here [13:54] what is ip from slackware.com ? [13:54] my dns server is not working well... [13:55] PING slackware.com (64.57.102.34) 56(84) bytes of data. [13:55] well got [13:57] well, time to kill off sunbird... i'll play with lightning for a couple of weeks [13:57] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: "leaving" [13:58] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [14:01] github ucks [14:01] sucks [14:01] jeronimo (n=ghost@78.90.113.108) left irc: "If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried." [14:02] i do like the integration they've gotten with the newer versions of lightning... looks a lot better [14:03] does lightning work like sunbird or it's a TB extension? [14:03] TB extension [14:03] BAH [14:03] like i was saying earlier, lightning was supposed to embed sunbird in TB [14:04] it supports caldav now, so i can sync it with my google calendars [14:04] at work i use sunbird, shared on network. [14:05] ah, nice [14:05] my boss has been working on reorganizing all of our calendars for public view, so they know when things are available [14:06] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:06] so we're using public google calendars [14:06] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [14:07] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:07] google calendars is good while the network is up :p [14:07] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [14:07] Hello everybody! [14:07] powtrix: lol [14:07] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:07] well, keep in mind, we all have smartphones, so it's not like we're never not connected :P [14:08] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [14:08] skysong (n=indecent@ADSL-TPLUS-84-245.telecomplus.net) joined ##slackware. [14:08] tori (n=ade@92.82.93.220) joined ##slackware. [14:08] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-77-181.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:09] 83min til slack13-64 is downloaded... sweets :) [14:10] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102141836]" [14:10] tori (n=ade@92.82.93.220) left irc: Client Quit [14:10] Axius (n=ade@92.85.25.57) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:11] I keep -current and make one iso [14:11] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:13] ecmicro (n=jam@client-75-102-118-241.mobility-up.psu.edu) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:13] back back back ;) [14:14] Axius (n=ade@92.82.93.220) joined ##slackware. [14:15] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-74-209-11-2.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [14:17] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:17] briareus (n=briareus@mayo-nat2.mayo.edu) joined ##slackware. [14:18] I'm trying to install wine on 64-bit. I've installed multilib versions of glibc / gcc and did the massconvert but compiling wine gives error that it can't find X [14:18] well, i rather slackpkg upgrade anywho :P [14:18] you can't zmyrgel [14:18] Necos: ? [14:19] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:19] Nick change: IrquiM_ -> IrquiM [14:19] stuartpb (n=stuartpb@c-24-16-108-67.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:21] skysong_ (n=indecent@ADSL-TPLUS-84-245.telecomplus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:22] psypete (n=realname@li62-9.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [14:22] anyone recommend me a virtual terminal lock, minus PAM? [14:23] what's the purpose of the "operator" user? [14:24] gapan (n=gapan@79.103.66.8.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:24] stuartpb: find / -uid 11 2>/dev/null # will give you a starting idea [14:24] Necos: Same way you go about installing anything else, with the exception that you need to have 1 small OS X partition and you need to install rEFIt on that OS X partition. [14:25] psypete: what does that do [14:26] briareus: will look through your whole system for any files with owner user id 11, the operator uid [14:26] zmyrgel: you need compat32 x libs [14:26] based on what files operator owns you can deduce what it's for [14:26] psypete: and throw them into /dev/null ? [14:26] psypete: how can I probe it for status? [14:26] nyRednek: Any ideas which are not included in aliens massconvert? [14:26] 2>/dev/null throws any "standard error" to dev null... there will be hundreds of files that will throw errors [14:27] thank you [14:27] zmyrgel: and you need to run . /etc/profile.d/32dev.sh before you run the slackbuild to make wine [14:27] stuartpb: you could use strace or lsof but it's going to be extremely messy. best to sit back and wait for it to finish [14:27] yeah it didn't find anything [14:27] the . is in the command line [14:27] nyRednek: did that too [14:28] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [14:28] zmyrgel: not sure, then [14:28] zmyrgel: can you pastebin the build? [14:28] also defined ARCH as x86_64 [14:30] zmyrgel: i know it builded fine, with the binary compat32 packages that alien had on his site [14:30] spook: I think the postman drank your beer =/ [14:30] LITesterB (n=Bob@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:30] i dont need to run 32dev.sh to compile wine here (slack64) [14:30] http://sta.li/ [14:31] powtrix: i did [14:31] Yeah, I got it installed without any problems before but i removed the installation as I didn't have use for it then [14:31] stuartpb: looks like it's just an alternative root account. it has root's group id, so it can do lots of operations on different files but can't do things that only root can do (like kill any pid, listen on network interfaces, etc etc etc etc) [14:31] sorry it's not an "alternative root" account, it just has extra power as an administrative account [14:31] anyone know anything about grub? i really need to activate other partition... but man grub is not helping me much :( [14:31] The-Croupier: info grub [14:32] thats a whole book [14:32] so for example you could add it in sudoers to perform different operations but it wouldn't have total control over the system like root account [14:32] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:33] petslack (n=petslack@201-68-130-150.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:33] hmm, I recall that I fooled around with X packages a while back. [14:33] sahk0, could you help with an example... i want to add slackware in grub :( [14:34] I'll try to reinstall my X packages to what ships with slack [14:34] The-Croupier: i havent used grub for a while sorry. ask in #ubuntu or something theyll help you. :P [14:34] i not joking btw [14:35] and im not getting you seriously :p [14:35] neonflux (n=neonflux@209.19.58.106) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:35] fair enough:) [14:37] The-Croupier: #ubuntu #fedora #debian would all know the answers off the top of their heads [14:37] ooh, found a vlock slackbuild [14:38] got it ;) just reading info grub ;) [14:39] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [14:39] archiac (n=quassel@70-88-181-197-Atlanta.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:39] redcrap just locked its bugzilla, farking hel [14:39] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:39] The-Croupier (n=The-Crou@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:39] mancha: Why do you care if Red Hat's bugzilla is locked or not? [14:40] how would I go about making a lua-5.1.4 package for slackware 13.0 [14:40] whenever i find my self annoyed by the fact that Slackware doesnt have a bugtracker i remind myself how much i dislike bugzilla. that always calms me down [14:41] because they're good about smashing vulnerabilities? [14:41] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:42] I wouldn't consider them particularly skilled at that, no more or less than anyone else. [14:42] hey slackers :-) [14:42] macavity: hey [14:43] ok, thats a discussion that doesn't really grab my attention [14:43] me neither [14:43] The-Croupier (n=The-Crou@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [14:44] oy mancha :) [14:44] nessundorma (n=mike@78.134.122.168) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:45] \o/ [14:45] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-147.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [14:46] what does it take to get a package made part of the official distro? [14:46] I found a crt screen today (in my building) and took, at first I thought it was broken but my desktop background is black and the screen's black is like when the screen is off [14:46] Action: Camarade_Tux hugs CRTs [14:46] Phoenix_br (n=chatzill@189-19-71-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]" [14:46] stuartpb: quality? :) [14:47] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-198-176.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:47] http://www.flickr.com/photos/rafaelrivera/3819815580/in/photostream/ \o/ [14:47] Camarade_Tux: carefull now.. those are high voltage :P [14:47] doesn't crt burn holes in your retina? [14:47] macavity: and pretty heavy, it's been on my laps for five minutes now :P [14:48] Camarade_Tux: so what's keeping lua from coming with slackware? [14:48] stuartpb: what program would be using it? [14:49] Camarade_Tux: lots of things [14:49] and that nvidia driver is giving me 1024x768 at most for this screen [14:49] Camarade_Tux: wireshark, for one [14:49] what's the use in wireshark? [14:49] heavy crap, not even sure my desk would handle it >< [14:49] stuartpb: wireshark isnt part of slackware either. but you are asking in the wrong place anyway [14:50] Camarade_Tux, hello ;) [14:51] wireshark is an awesome tool if you know how to use it [14:51] hey fredoslack :) [14:52] mgm (n=mgm@200.206.141.46) left irc: "Leaving" [14:52] Camarade_Tux, you eat squirrels and vegimite [14:53] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.143.145) left irc: "delano is gay" [14:54] What exactly can wireshark do that tcpdump and nmap don't? [14:54] nixchix0r: lol, what? :O [14:54] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-53-250.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) left irc: "Leaving." [14:54] Alan_Hicks: disect? nicer view? [14:54] alicephilippa (n=alice@89.194.73.204) joined ##slackware. [14:55] nixchix0r: what's the name of the ot channel already? :D [14:56] Nothing I need. :-) [14:57] ;p [14:57] spook: hmmm, actually it's [14:57] *me* drinking your beer :) [15:00] cyborg-o1e (i=1000@nas-12-179.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [15:00] What should I do if I want tou use a different server than apache for httpd? [15:00] MooKimchi (n=kimchi@211.180.33.122) joined ##slackware. [15:01] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-16-89.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:01] stuartpb: remove apache first [15:01] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [15:01] s/apache/httpd/ :D [15:01] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-89.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:01] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [15:02] stuartpb: after, follow instructions to install alternative httpd [15:02] how does one create a boot USB stick like during slackware installation? [15:02] nyRednek: where? [15:02] stuartpb: the instructions for installation are usually included with the webserver you want to use [15:02] MooKimchi: pkgtool -> setup [15:03] but the stuff like rc.httpd [15:03] (I mean, run "pkgtool", select setup, read) [15:03] stuartpb: i'd put a call in rc.local and be done with it [15:03] stuartpb: you create it... [15:03] just overwrite the existing rc.httpd altogether? [15:04] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:04] if you remove apache, you won't have an rc.httpd [15:05] oh crappy nvidia-settings, it is showing on the screen I just turned off [15:05] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207009097.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:05] Camarade_Tux: lighttpd vs apache2 , choose [15:05] Camarade_Tux, thanks [15:05] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.199.222.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:05] MooKimchi (n=kimchi@211.180.33.122) left irc: Client Quit [15:05] Camarade_Tux: how should I remove apache? [15:06] deco: no idea ^^ [15:06] Camarade_Tux: -_- [15:06] stuartpb: removepkg httpd [15:06] Axius (n=ade@92.82.93.220) left irc: "Leaving" [15:07] stupid nvidia driver [15:07] Camarade_Tux: i have a big crt monitor but it's too dark, i can't calibrate it , doesn't help [15:07] I HATE THIS DRIVER! [15:08] (bis) [15:08] (ter) [15:09] it sucks [15:09] comp_ (n=comp_@89.47.86.13) joined ##slackware. [15:09] and it diead [15:09] *died [15:09] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:12] Camarade_Tux: do you have $10 on a plastic card? [15:12] http://www.daniweb.com/news/story238935.html# ^^ [15:12] macavity: I have more than that :D [15:13] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-147.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:13] Camarade_Tux: three words: Nouveau. Paypal. Now. [15:13] easy as that :P [15:14] macavity: you have nvidia hardware? [15:14] macavity, you see fedora 12 ships with KMS for nvidia? [15:14] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-169.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "zzzzt - gone" [15:14] no way jòse [15:14] macavity: yes way [15:15] fire|bird: your speshul, so your oppinion doesnt count :P [15:15] thrice`: O_O [15:15] macavity: I know, just thought I'd offer it anyway. ;) [15:15] macavity: that's why I don't see you in nouveau then ;-) [15:15] macavity: I used to use nouveau and I've been on the irc channel for a year now ;-) [15:16] How can I preview what will happen when I removepkg? [15:17] you don't, you know it :D [15:17] it removes files listed in /var/log/packages/X unless they are listed in another packag [15:17] e [15:17] stuartpb: removpkg fubar will remove the equivalent of ls /var/log/packages/fubar* [15:17] or is that fubar-*? [15:18] some files like in /etc/ will not be removed though. read the actual output on the screen [15:18] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:18] iirc rc.d files dont get removed [15:18] macavity: you can try "rem0vepkg g" :D [15:18] stuartpb: oh, as the first option in the manpage says: -warn packagename Generate a report to the standard output about which files and directories would be removed, but does not actu- ally remove the package. [15:19] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [15:19] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [15:19] Action: The-Croupier is sad .. :( i think i deleted my slackware partition :( [15:19] in short, RTHMP [15:19] nvision (n=nvision@g225062004.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [15:19] read the helping manuel please? :P [15:20] The-Croupier: that is a time to rejoyce! now you get to install your favorite distro again, and you get to utilize all your favorite hacks :P [15:20] *manual [15:20] Camarade_Tux: Read The Handy Manual Page [15:20] macavity: lol ;p [15:20] macavity: oh yeah, that works too :) [15:20] macavity, lol ;) [15:20] clear [15:20] The-Croupier: only the partition? the data is still there? you could recreate the partition :D [15:20] Camarade_Tux: and it comes over the wire a little less offensive :P [15:21] the commi pinguin has a point... [15:21] comp_ (n=comp_@89.47.86.13) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:21] :P [15:21] macavity: a good ol' rtfm :) [15:21] comp_ (n=comp_@89.47.86.13) joined ##slackware. [15:22] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.141) joined ##slackware. [15:23] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.150.27) joined ##slackware. [15:23] let's quit X... [15:23] arcaos (n=arcaos@190.177.163.115) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:23] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-159-231.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:23] NOES! [15:23] hi [15:23] hi rg3 [15:23] aaxine and goat pr0n is just SO crappy! [15:23] hello rg3 [15:24] oh, forgot to say: yAFSR :) [15:24] (well, coming) [15:24] anyone can guess what this stands for? :) [15:24] yet another fucking serious russian? [15:25] yet another firefox security release (coming) [15:25] http://xorl.wordpress.com/2009/11/13/cve-2009-3379-mozilla-firefox-multiple-vulnerabilities/ [15:26] Action: macavity is thrilled [15:26] ... [15:26] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) left irc: "lalala vou embora!!!" [15:27] I know somebody who is going to be happy [15:27] Action: Camarade_Tux wonders if more than 1% of the internet bandwidth is used for firefox security updates... [15:27] lol [15:27] That's a negative. [15:28] Currently over 99% of Internet Bandwidth is taken up by porn, youtube, facebook, and MySpace. [15:28] and twitter [15:28] Also, 87% of all statistics are made up on the spot. [15:28] infoman (n=info_man@196.202.27.173) joined ##slackware. [15:28] Alan_Hicks: just like that one? ;) [15:29] hi :) [15:29] Alan_Hicks: ;-) [15:29] i wonder how much torrents take up :P [15:29] hello infoman [15:29] hello bro and all [15:29] macavity: torrents of porn clips from youtube shared on facebook? :) [15:29] hi infoman [15:29] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:30] hi bro Camarade_Tux [15:30] you can bro me all you like.. just dont dude me :P [15:30] Axius (n=ade@92.82.93.220) joined ##slackware. [15:30] macavity: dude, why not? :P [15:30] why dude? [15:30] Action: fire|bird runs and hides [15:30] macavity: dude, that's really cool :) [15:30] Action: Camarade_Tux hides together with fire|bird [15:31] fscking nvidiadriver [15:32] I think webkit has some pretty nasty security holes as well, if you're not on latest-and-greatest [15:33] I wouldn't be surprised [15:34] but some mitigation isn't very hard to achieve in browsers [15:34] alicephilippa (n=alice@89.194.73.204) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:34] egregor (n=bfgh@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [15:34] i use konqueror for everything except youtube, slashdot and my homebank [15:34] actually one thing that sucks is that different pages should be able to talk to each others using javascript, quite used with facebook [15:34] and... [15:34] arcaos (n=arcaos@190.177.140.211) joined ##slackware. [15:35] Axius (n=ade@92.82.93.220) left irc: Client Quit [15:35] that's some serious security/privacy shit [15:35] not that i think konqueror is more safe.. i just dont think many people bother targeting it :P [15:35] macavity: ;-) [15:35] macavity: they probably don't, not a very huge user base. [15:35] exactly [15:35] macavity: and konqueror is pretty nice :) [15:36] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [15:36] last netstat showed exactly 1/8th the number of Opera users :P [15:36] Action: Camarade_Tux hates this driver [15:36] cyborg-o1e (i=1000@nas-12-179.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:36] macavity: It'll be great when they get it to be able to use webkit, gecko, etc. [15:36] Camarade_Tux: yes.. but it doesnt work with the "many more" button in slashdot [15:36] fire|bird: absolutely [15:36] Action: Camarade_Tux should go back working on his browser [15:37] macavity: and, the tabbed ui of kde could be very useful, and may be included as soon as 4.4 [15:37] Dominian: ping [15:37] acidchild: PONG [15:37] fire|bird: yes, that looks like some nice stuff [15:37] fire|bird: that means 20 times the security flaws (15 times for gecko, 5 times for webkit) ;p [15:37] hrm.. I should've done: ACK [15:37] fire|bird: i *probably* wont use it much though [15:37] then you could do SYN [15:37] fire|bird: what's that? [15:37] and I could do SYN ACK [15:37] acidchild: and we could be really annoying :) [15:38] macavity: yeah, I'm sure many won't, but it's an interesting feature. I'm surprised it hasn't arrived sooner beings fluxbox, etc have had that feature for quite some time. [15:38] Dominian: don't forget to send the checksum of your messages -_- [15:38] Camarade_Tux: shit [15:38] Action: Dominian gets right on that [15:38] fire|bird: oh, that [15:38] Camarade_Tux: Think fluxbox, pekwm, etc that can tab windows together, kde is getting that feature. [15:38] ^^ [15:38] Camarade_Tux: yeah [15:38] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [15:38] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [15:39] brb, gotta kill this driver [15:39] do I hate firefox more than I hate this nvidia driver ? [15:40] hrad (i=4e88a0a5@gateway/web/freenode/x-dtifkbwyuwazxkly) joined ##slackware. [15:40] also, does anyone know how to simulate a keyboard using a bunch of wires? :D [15:40] on PS/2 [15:41] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Client Quit [15:41] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [15:41] Camarade_Tux: you can find that info in "The Pink Shirt Guy Book" [15:42] hey, what is the easiest way to get a VNC like remote desktop ? both machines client-server are slackware 13.0 with kde 4 [15:42] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:42] maybe krfb? [15:43] alicephilippa (i=alice@80.187.149.97) joined ##slackware. [15:43] at least it claims to be "VNC-compatible server to share KDE desktops [15:43] " [15:43] macavity: google gave me that picture http://www.cosmopolitan.com/cm/cosmopolitan/images/nb/amazingarches-lh-medium-new.jpg [15:44] Camarade_Tux: how did you get a picture of my girl freind?!? [15:45] icarus (n=tits@cpe-72-177-142-8.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:45] macavity: was on a pron site -_- [15:45] I'll have you know that's my wife you cad [15:46] Action: dive wakes up [15:46] strange dream [15:47] macavity: and this gtk-vnc viewer ? [15:47] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [15:48] I guess it's all about what viewer to choose...cause I'd put x11vnc on the server side [15:48] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-27-242.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:49] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-141.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [15:51] ok, not possible to sync with the PS/2 port ='( [15:53] hrad: i have no clue [15:53] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) joined ##slackware. [15:54] Camarade_Tux: oh, that explains it.. i make her earn her keep around here ;-) [15:56] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [15:57] http://blog.fenrus.org/?p=38 :) [15:57] macavity: good idea :P [15:57] macavity: btw, the porn page states that she needed some more adventure and qualities in a man than what he husband could ever offer her -_- [15:59] LOL! http://lwn.net/Articles/362151/ <- "And top issues sorted by CVE (Common Vulnerability Enumeration) count [16:01] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) joined ##slackware. [16:01] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [16:01] _bruno (n=bruno@189-55-33-53-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: [16:01] icarus (n=tits@cpe-72-177-142-8.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:02] Bassist (n=bass@mnch-5d858c1b.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [16:02] Hey all, anyone manage to build the texlive SBo? [16:02] Minime1 (n=martin@87.249.160.232) joined ##slackware. [16:02] A long way into it, I get an error message about a missing binary or something [16:03] the actual error would help [16:04] mancha: I know, which is why I'm doing it again [16:04] Give me a couple of minutes [16:04] ok [16:04] I was thinking maybe somebody has seen this already [16:04] Camarade_Tux, lol [16:05] alicephilippa (i=alice@80.187.149.97) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:05] alicephilippa (i=alice@80.187.213.183) joined ##slackware. [16:05] last time I tried texlive, it worked (was from rworkm4n ) [16:06] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:06] Camarade_Tux: The texlive installer worked well before, but I prefer a good slackbuild (Much easier to control) [16:06] ea_suter (n=easuter@nat-1.uevora.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:07] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/office/texlive/ ? [16:07] yeah, I used a slackbuild [16:07] Necos: Yes, trying to build exactly that [16:07] Via sbopkg [16:08] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-89.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:08] Minime1 (n=martin@87.249.160.232) left ##slackware. [16:08] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [16:08] i take you're all LaTeX gurus. what benefits over tetex please? [16:08] *take it [16:08] It compiles happily for a while, and then.. (wait for it, should crash soon) [16:09] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [16:09] This is like watching paint dry :( [16:09] mancha: more recent packages, more packages [16:10] sorry what packages are you referring to? [16:11] latex ones [16:11] hopefully it has that package where you can make as many sub paragraphs as you like [16:11] There we go [16:11] find: `/tmp/sbopkg/sbopkg-build-directory/texlive-20091107-source/inst': No such file or directory [16:11] ./Build: Build failed, no executables under /tmp/sbopkg/sbopkg-build-directory/texlive-20091107-source/inst/bin. [16:12] gapan (n=gapan@79.103.66.8.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Leaving." [16:12] latex is a macro language, i ask again, what benefits, thanks. [16:12] once you get a hang of it it is a really pleasant way to make raports [16:12] And before that a bunch of errors in pdftoepdf and stuff [16:12] Bassist, maybe the best bet is dl'ing the stuff from slackbuilds.org and running it [16:13] it's a document formatting macro language, and it's very useful for scientists [16:13] and you dont have to fight the design.. latex handles that for you [16:13] it always looks really professional [16:13] Bassist: how much space left? [16:13] Camarade_Tux: Enough [16:13] my Q is not why latex is good (i have an answer to that) my question is why texlive >> tetex [16:13] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) left irc: "leaving" [16:13] Camarade_Tux: Around 2 GB [16:13] Bassist: then pastebin the whole error messag [16:13] e [16:13] also afaik knuth has not come out with a newer spec to latex ina while [16:14] because it's dated mancha (but i've never used texlive) [16:14] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [16:14] "it's dated" is not a smart answer [16:14] knuth doesn't WANT to make new specs for latex, it's fine as is [16:14] it's the truth >.> [16:14] hugohagogo (n=cleber@189.23.230.11) left irc: "Leaving" [16:15] html is dated but we still use it [16:15] i'm guessing texlive provides more utilities / features for making latex documents [16:15] the official policy is "if I fix it, I add another level of precision to the version number" [16:15] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [16:15] Camarade_Tux: http://pastebin.com/d506479b2 [16:16] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [16:16] if all you can come up with as a justification to move from tetex to texlive is "because its newer" then you're not very demanding of your justifications to u/g stuff [16:16] "and when I die all bugs stay in the spec as features" [16:16] br00tal (n=jesse@host-198-156-2-96.midco.net) joined ##slackware. [16:18] mancha, if you use latex for documents, then the more utilities you have, the better... [16:18] mancha: as I said, more packages in [16:18] what utilities? [16:19] Bassist: which version of slackware? [16:19] Camarade_Tux: 13 [16:19] mancha: one quick look at wikipedia should suggest that texlive is the way forth :P [16:19] Camarade_Tux: Using only -current packages and SBo's [16:20] so -current and not 13? [16:20] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:20] you didnt just update *some* of the packages to -current, right? [16:20] (not that it actually matters very much at this point in time.. more as a principle) [16:20] http://tug.org/texlive/doc/texlive-en/texlive-en.html#news <---- there [16:21] macavity: Haven't updated in a while, so I'm halfway in between [16:21] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [16:21] ok, since tetex is not in devel then it is a good chance it'll be the way forth. but since it is a 20-fold increase in space-usage, i'm curious to hear what that compiler has that tetex doesn't. all i get is "more packages" "newer" and "more utilities" :) [16:21] Bassist: where? before or after Oct 28.? [16:22] The-Croupier (n=The-Crou@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:22] Camarade_Tux: Nov 2. is my latest upgrade [16:22] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-77-181.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [16:22] tetex compiles tex and latex just fine, and creates dvi, ps, and pdf with no hassle. what's missing? [16:22] mancha, pdf and dvi output seem to be two of the new features of the texlive package [16:22] mancha: yeah, more latex packages, that's a big thing, that includes tons of things (better support for chinese for instance...) but google has a better list that I do [16:23] oh ok, i'm not going to writing any papers in mandarin in the near future so maybe i'll hold off on the u/g [16:23] no one said you had to u/g >.> [16:23] i haven't had to write scientific papers yet, so i'm still a novice to *tex [16:24] i know :) i'm just interested in a discussion. wantwed to hear from folks who really like texlive (as i assumed you are ex-tetex users) and so could give me a 1st hand account of why A is better than B [16:24] rworkman: have you tried texlive with a newer poppler (like current's and probably 13's too since there was a security update) [16:25] there are a few patches for texlive floating about [16:25] i mean its roughly 50MB versus 1200MB so it better be a *damn* good improvement :P [16:26] my buddy who just got his phd in stats wrote a lot of stuff using latex in some windows-ported app [16:27] windows has miktex, which is rock solid [16:27] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:27] PHD in statistics? [16:28] yeah [16:28] Remind me never to trust him. [16:28] lol [16:28] there's lies, damn lies, and... [16:28] "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- Mark Twain [16:28] 59% of all statistics are made up right on the spot [16:28] he didnt push for a PhD before he knew his exact odds :P [16:28] stuartpb (n=stuartpb@c-24-16-108-67.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [16:28] Bassist: Alan_Hicks said 87% earlier. :P [16:28] he's a brilliant guy... kinda funny since he's a mathematician and i'm a physicist... we're supposed to be mortal enemies [16:28] fire|bird: I'm sorry for improvising [16:28] fire|bird: the number is dropping quickly ;-) [16:29] Camarade_Tux: indeed. :) [16:29] and i maintain that it is much closer to 99% [16:29] Necos: Welcome aboard :) [16:29] lol [16:29] ... especially if the statistics are broadcast in the mainstream media.... [16:29] Action: Necos bows [16:29] macavity: 100% of statistics are made up numbers. Only 88% of them (increased due to Bassist's usage) are made up on the spot to support an idea. [16:29] Necos: What're you specialized on? [16:30] Alan_Hicks: when you study them carefully you get the idea that its the other way around :P [16:30] hrad (i=4e88a0a5@gateway/web/freenode/x-dtifkbwyuwazxkly) left irc: "Page closed" [16:30] i'm finishing my bachelor's, going for a specialization in either EM material research or QFT [16:30] every different [16:31] very* [16:31] numbers are very forgiving.. especially when you put them in a colored graph :P [16:31] mancha fails :) [16:31] if you do the former you can help me design a new tinfoil hat! [16:31] mancha, i'll never help you :) [16:31] you might try to jab me with that damn tinfoil hat! [16:31] never, if you help me block the martian rays i'll be a loyal friend for life [16:32] There's a reason we call stupid people, "walking statistics". You know the type, those people that need poison warnings on a bottle of bleach. [16:32] lies! [16:32] Necos: I'm heading towards condensed matter field theory [16:32] Action: fire|bird stabs Necos with a tin foil hat. [16:32] Necos: Or many body theory [16:32] ah, fun stuff! [16:32] Life's too short for experiments [16:32] lots of fluid dynamics? [16:33] Alan_Hicks: or to quote Homer Simpson "Why didnt they tell me that spider poison was people poison too?!?" [16:33] lol macavity [16:33] Action: edman007 stabs fire|bird with a lead hat [16:33] More like superconductivity and stuff [16:33] Let's not talk about "body theory" with the words "fluid dynamics". This sounds way too much like geek porn. [16:33] oh hai fire|bird [16:33] >.> [16:33] -.- [16:33] .... [16:33] Action: fire|bird hits edman007 with a lead pipe [16:33] Action: macavity finds the bandages [16:34] It was fire|bird in the channel with the lead pipe. [16:34] haha [16:34] 10 years later edman007 dies not from the blunt blow to his cranium but from heavy metal poisoning [16:34] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:34] Action: edman007 stumbles around [16:34] my EM field theory class is kicking my ass tho... i think i need to review my diff eqs [16:34] >.<; [16:34] mancha: negatory.. from lack of blood circulation due to a too tight bandage [16:34] poisson's equation gives me a lot of trouble [16:35] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:35] Action: edman007 throws Hg at macavity [16:35] The thing I don't understand about physics is electro-magnetism. [16:35] not to mention his latex allergy (bandage was made of latex) [16:35] and i mean tetex not texlive [16:35] Necos: Grab yourself Griffiths' Intro to Electrodynamics [16:35] Action: mancha ducks [16:35] i have that book :) [16:35] latex allergy? Now we really are discussing geek porn. [16:35] Necos: Then read it :) [16:35] Necos: And if you're feeling adventerous: Landau-Lifschitz Classical Field Theory [16:35] Alan_Hicks: need linkz? [16:35] i've been reading it... i also borrowed my phd buddy's Boas book [16:36] talking about geek porn... [16:36] df -h [16:36] lol [16:36] oops.. wrong term [16:36] Boas has some useful references [16:36] df: error, integer overflow [16:36] all we need to know about physics is E_8 [16:36] O_O [16:36] >.> [16:37] @_@;;; [16:37] ... [16:37] Bassist, i might have that in pdf or dvi somewhere :P [16:37] edman007: i like that you think that i have more than 2^32TB of disk space [16:37] Shouldn't that be Eo3? [16:37] Action: macavity dreams on [16:37] edman007: links to what? [16:37] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E8_(mathematics) [16:38] SHUN THE MATHEMATICIAN [16:38] SHUUUUN [16:38] Alan_Hicks: geek pr0n, duh [16:38] mancha: Eo3... think about it. Famous internet shock site. [16:38] Bassist, you have the isbn of that book by chance? [16:38] looks like i'm gonna have to hit the uni lib [16:39] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lev_Landau#Landau_and_Lifshitz_Course_of_Theoretical_Physics [16:39] steiger_ (n=steiger@189.105.50.69) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:39] well hell :) [16:40] Not recommended as introductory reading [16:40] ip-route (n=iproute@200.172.83.136) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:40] i take it eating out is part of this? i was hoping not :) [16:40] But if you have an idea, these books own everything [16:40] haha [16:41] Book 1 on mechanics starts out with Hamilton's variatonal principle [16:41] Bam [16:41] lol [16:41] damn, that's just wrong :) [16:41] Best book on mechanics, EVAR [16:41] i loathe having to learn calc of variations [16:41] oh.. i have a cookbook that starts out with cinamon waffles.. bam! :P [16:42] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "So long sukkas!" [16:42] that's the last of my senior math classes... [16:42] cinamon waffles? [16:42] calculus of variations [16:42] ;-) [16:43] waffles are great. the inventor should get a nobel prize of something, maybe nobel peace prize now that we know anyone can get that [16:43] Action: mancha ducks [16:43] lol [16:43] Waffles smaffles. [16:43] mancha++ [16:43] Pancakes... that's the real deal. [16:43] Necos: I'm reading through a part about Maxwell's equations from a variational principle [16:44] Beautiful [16:44] i'l take pancakes too, blueberry rocks mah fro [16:44] Light... fluffy pancakes, smeared with butter and covered with cane syrup... [16:44] Alan_Hicks: clearly waffles has more vertices than pancaces.. duh... :P [16:44] heh mancha >.> [16:44] waffles are too crisp and tough. [16:44] that depends [16:44] Bassist, i hate math :) [16:44] Never as good as pancakes. [16:44] my banaffles arent [16:45] Waffles are the canned biscuit of the pancake world. [16:45] O_O [16:45] lol [16:45] and to add to this mix, crepes smothered in nutella [16:45] Sure, you can eat 'em, but they ain't the real deal. [16:45] mancha: i hate you! [16:45] Action: macavity goes to the kitchen [16:45] crêpes ftw! [16:45] WTF are crepes? [16:45] Camarade_Tux: i lol love those [16:45] Action: Alan_Hicks googles. [16:45] Alan_Hicks: *french* pancakes :P [16:46] Camarade_Tux: made some in high school :P [16:46] fsck.. i am out of Nutella [16:46] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%AApe [16:46] xsamurai (n=fahad@69.43.199.101) joined ##slackware. [16:46] mancha: now look what you did! :P [16:46] crepe is just egg isnt it [16:46] macavity: I have a whole glass left here.. But I don't feel like eating any :P [16:46] macavity: no! it's the other way round, pancakes are non-french crêpes :P [16:46] lol [16:46] Bassist: you are an odd breed :P [16:46] Bassist: yeah, teasing macavity is even better :) [16:46] Action: Necos nods [16:46] macavity: Don't worry, one day I'll wolf it all down with a spoon [16:46] Camarade_Tux: if you insist.. cheese eating surrender monkey [16:46] Screw bread [16:46] Action: macavity runs [16:47] LOL [16:47] macavity: hahaha ^^ [16:47] get 'em! [16:47] and brioche too! [16:47] Action: Camarade_Tux is eating some currently [16:47] lol landau was a bit of a egotist it seems [16:47] ? [16:47] macavity: Don't antagonize the French. [16:48] Landau ranked himself as a 2.5 but later promoted himself to a 2. [16:48] It's like fishin' with dynamite. [16:48] Bassist: but it in the micro wave oven for just a minute before you do so :-9~~~ [16:48] macavity, shame on you to let your nutella stock run out! [16:48] *put [16:48] mancha: i am just a poor guy :-/ [16:49] macavity: How about I place it in front of me and contemplate eating it, but not do so just to drive you batty? :) [16:49] Man... all this talk about food is making me hope Spring hurries up and gets here. [16:49] Action: mancha opens up a new jar of nutella....and begins relishing it [16:49] Soooo [16:49] Texlive.. [16:50] Alan_Hicks: you have to wait till spring to eat ? [16:50] http://a10.idata.over-blog.com/3/01/91/28/photos/tresse-brioche.jpg ! [16:50] lol Bassist [16:50] surrender to the food! [16:50] he msut be hibernating [16:51] usually humans and animals like to do other things when spring comes around [16:51] beatzz (n=beatzz@cpe-24-167-96-211.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:51] Action: mancha sits down for the birds & bees seminar [16:51] thrice`, ??? [16:51] thrice`, yo man, sorry to run out on you like that last time [16:51] I should get a camera to send you food pics :P [16:51] thrice`, my sons were literaly screaming at the top of their lungs at the library. [16:52] xsamurai: I have to wait 'till Spring for the first fresh butter beans and black-eyed beans and purple-hull peas to come in. [16:52] http://farm1.static.flickr.com/72/212656176_e3c57abc92_o.jpg <- chouquettes [16:52] brb [16:52] the updated driver was install successfully, but the problem remains [16:52] macavity: how do you eat nutella? [16:52] gana try that new kernel you told me about [16:52] Camarade_Tux, its like tuna fish [16:53] beatzz: when you play a video, can you check cpu usage? what is taking most of the time? X? [16:53] what i could really go for right now is a nice flank steak on the grill or maybe a ribeye [16:53] let me check on that [16:53] but damnit all to hell [16:53] i know i bookmarked that kerenel readme [16:53] and now i dont have it [16:53] Bassist, i'm gonna try to build it [16:53] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [16:54] Camarade_Tux, do u remeber what im talkin about? that newer kernel thats in dev that pwntz 2D graphics? [16:54] with the link for the slackpkg for it? [16:55] wtf it dosent even show it in my history [16:55] prolly http://favorite_mirror/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/testing/packages/linux-2.6.30.5/ [16:55] booyah! [16:55] mancha, gracias man! [16:55] Alan_Hicks: hard to understand that concept when living in LA , unless those beans come with lots of silicone implants [16:55] odd, texlive is not listed in sbopkg [16:55] welcome [16:55] thats right, you were the one who pointed me to it [16:56] xsamurai: They don't. They come straight off the vine. [16:56] beatzz, not me...but my link is still good. [16:56] umm mancha that link dident work? [16:56] well, there ya go, had to resync [16:56] rfdrew (n=rfdrew@65-107-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:56] oh fuck >.> [16:56] replace "favorite_mirror" with your favorite mirror [16:56] pick a mirror [16:56] ... [16:56] it downloads from ftp [16:57] my favorite mirror?? [16:57] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Client Quit [16:57] u mean in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [16:57] ? [16:57] / [16:58] let's try to stabilize the interface names... [16:58] http://slackware.com/getslack/list.php?country=USA [16:58] how do you all know all this stuff? [16:59] he's been here for a while :P [16:59] what is the meaning of life? [16:59] 42 [16:59] pi/2 [16:59] Alan_Hicks: never had butter beans or hull peas but black-eyed beans are one of my favorites [16:59] gaud damn it >.<; [16:59] brb [17:00] mancha, where did its nice README go? [17:00] that thing was hella informative [17:01] cue Mission Impossible music... [17:02] http://favorite_mirror/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/testing/packages/linux-2.6.30.5/README_FIRST.TXT mayhaps? [17:02] its not in http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/testing/packages/linux-2.6.30.5/ [17:02] "This README will self-destruct in 10 seconds" [17:02] babilen (n=babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) joined ##slackware. [17:02] xsamurai: You sir, have never lived. [17:02] Alan_Hicks: haha, well i'll take your word for it, I need to move out of krapifornia [17:02] mancha, no seriously its not in that directory at all? [17:03] mancha, should i try another mirror? [17:03] xsamurai: Go East young man. [17:03] yea right [17:03] Hi all! Is there a slackware-python mailing list/channel somewhere? [17:03] i just read it yesterday.... [17:03] california is holding the U.S. up [17:03] beatzz, pick a different mirror, that one seems fubar [17:03] mancha, ok [17:03] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) left irc: "out" [17:03] jeev: Hmm? [17:03] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [17:04] jeev: no its not, its bringing it down [17:04] Alan_Hicks, if it wasn't for california, the u.s. would be nothing :) [17:04] or a slackware-devel channel? [17:04] there she is!!! [17:04] DaveyTheChin (n=DaveyThe@pool-72-91-150-198.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:04] jeev: Sure. Go on believing that if you like. [17:04] the last mirror is cracked [17:04] :> [17:04] goobernator has us in how much debt ? [17:05] the US wouldn't exist without France -_- [17:05] babilen: why? [17:05] Camarade_Tux: France wouldn't exist without the US (twice). [17:05] and the french would be speaking german were it not for the u.s.? [17:05] <_guitarman_> did anyone in here set the suid-root to get links browser displaying pictures? [17:05] Camarade_Tux: french fries and french maid's are all I care about [17:05] xsamurai: then you're missing a lot :) [17:05] xsamurai: Don't forget french kissin'. [17:05] california will sink into the sea one day, and thousands of years later people will wonder if it ever really existed [17:05] Alan_Hicks: the US wouldn't exist without France (first) :) [17:05] Camarade_Tux: I am seeking input on python packaging from the slackware package maintainers [17:05] ahhhh [17:06] yes yes ++ for the french for that [17:06] _guitarman_: what? [17:06] Camarade_Tux: Correct. However, that debt was long repaid in full. [17:06] babilen: go on [17:06] babilen: What's your problem? [17:06] isnt paris france the dirtiest place on this earth ? [17:06] not really ^^ [17:07] Scuzz, from the t.v. it looks to be phoenix [17:07] hahah [17:07] some say that the u.s. repaid its debt to france the minute it shared the formula for deoderant *heh* [17:07] Urchlay: Yeah, the new Bimminy Road will stretch from Las Vegas to LA. [17:07] mancha, do i need to install the kernel-modules*.txz as well? [17:07] Camarade_Tux: It is not that I have a problem, but distutils-sig tries to get a bunch of PEPs into shape before they are accepted. And I wanted to give maintainers the chance to provide some input. [17:07] beatzz yes [17:07] Alan_Hicks: I honestly think we're on par for that ;-) (I just like to remind americans about it since they seem to forget it easily :) ) [17:07] anything else? [17:08] wineuser (n=wineuser@vl102-res-out.collegeahuntsic.qc.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:08] read the README [17:08] Camarade_Tux: I sir, am a student of history, and don't forget such things. [17:08] <_guitarman_> Camarade_Tux: when i run links from a terminal window, - links -g (for graphical mode) it says 'svgalib cannot open /dev/mem, are you running this program as root or suid-root? [17:08] Alan_Hicks: *you* don't, but many do ;-) [17:08] arcaos_ (n=arcaos@190.177.48.79) joined ##slackware. [17:09] the weird thing to me: most of the people I know who hate the french, if you ask them, you'll find out they've never been to france, or even met anyone from there [17:09] babilen: on specific topics? [17:09] how can you hate someone just because the TV tells you to? [17:09] Urchlay++ :) [17:09] it was an interesting time...the french helped fight the british by choking them off at sea with their armada...some years later the u.s. sided with britain in the french-british war :P [17:09] kinda Orwellian, if you ask me [17:09] Urchlay: How can you vote for some one just because the TV tells you to? [17:09] _guitarman_: if you run it as root, does it work? [17:09] Alan_Hicks: I don't watch the TV, so I got no answer for you [17:09] arcaos (n=arcaos@190.177.140.211) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:10] mancha: Some years later, we bought a huge tract of land from Napoleon in the Luisianna Purchase. [17:10] I think I'm going to buy a camera and spam this channel with food pics :) [17:10] Louisianna [17:10] for near nothing since the french were bankrupt [17:10] Alan_Hicks: but voting for one person (or not) is a lot less of a big deal than hating an entire country full of people [17:10] mancha, ok, i read the entire README, it says nothing about the headers or modules or the source, but im asumming i need all 3, is there a specific order i should installpkg them? [17:10] kernel / modules / headers / source * [17:11] you didn't read then, it says "installpkg kernel-*.txz [17:11] beatzz: don't change the kernel headers package [17:11] this explains it all [17:11] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp4iI59BfpQ [17:11] AHHH!! [17:11] i get it [17:11] ok my bad, i did read that [17:11] but i wasent thinking, that command will actualy get all 4 in one shot [17:11] Camarade_Tux: distutils-sig is drafting a lot of PEPs and it would be great to receive some input from distribution maintainers. [17:11] it's just after the line that says "to use these packages" heh. [17:11] sorry mancha [17:11] Camarade_Tux: http://wiki.python.org/moin/Distutils/DiscussionOverview summarises some of them... [17:12] i get it now [17:12] Does somebody have a hint as to why I can't start two different xserver instances on two different users with two different window managers? [17:12] beatzz yeah, it'll hit them all given bash and * wildcard globbing [17:12] wine, who controls the display? you would need to have two displays [17:12] hm, I never use packages to upgrade the kernel, is it considered OK to have 2 different kernel (and kernel-modules) packages installed at the same time? [17:13] Urch, they'll be in diff places [17:13] Urchlay: On most distributions it is [17:13] ie /lib/modules/kernel1 and /lib/modules/kernel2 etc [17:13] Urchlay, of course you can hate someone that tv tells you to hate.. just look at fox news, whoever they say hate, the morons follow [17:13] mancha: oh I know it'll *work*, I wanted to know if it's considered to be OK, or "unsupported, YMMV" [17:14] (this is more a question about people than about computers, I guess) [17:14] i see no reason for it to not be ok. no package clashing that i can think of except maybe symlinks? [17:14] mancha: I'm not sure what you mean by "controls the display", but what I'm trying to do is "startx -- :0.0" with one user and then "startx -- :1.0" with the other [17:14] kernel-souce has /usr/src/linux symlink, that'd be a minor issue (but not a real problem) [17:14] s/souce/source/ [17:15] yes thats the one i had in mind. [17:15] wineuser, What happens when you try that? [17:15] adamk_: I get "No protocol specified" [17:15] Camarade_Tux: Is this the correct channel, or is there a better forum for that topic? [17:16] babilen: try mailing volkerdi [17:16] adamk_: Or MIT_X_KEY or something is invalid [17:16] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:16] JJJunkk_ (i=spole@panix1.panix.com) joined ##slackware. [17:16] I had a virtualbox-kernel-2.1.4_2.6.29.6 and virtualbox-kernel-2.1.4_2.6.29.5 installed at the same time, and slackpkg used to bitch and complain about that... hated it [17:16] JJJunkk_ (i=spole@panix1.panix.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:16] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [17:17] wineuser, Try 'xinit /usr/bin/fluxbox -- :1.0' and see if that works. [17:17] i should play with vbox some day...it goes on the to-tinker list [17:17] Camarade_Tux: volkerdi? [17:18] babilen: at slackware.com [17:18] Camarade_Tux: Alright, I will do that. Thanks... [17:19] adamk_: That worked [17:19] adamk_: I'll check my .xinitrc [17:19] wineuser, Yeah, not sure why startx would have such problems. [17:19] wineuser, But I do get the same thing here. [17:20] That's weird [17:20] SIGBUS__ (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:20] adamk_: Because if I use the same WM I can get two servers with startx [17:20] adamk_: On 2 diff users [17:21] very odd [17:21] let's start playing with udev :) [17:21] adamk_: Do you get the same behavior on your side? [17:22] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:23] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [17:23] babilen (n=babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) left ##slackware. [17:24] wineuser, No. With two users, even when using the same MW (well, in the case, the same DE: xfce4) I have to use xinit for the second user. [17:24] But I have to run out for a bit. [17:24] Good luck :-) [17:25] adamk_: Hum, I just checked and /usr/bin/X was active for all started servers [17:25] does mysql use sockets? and not tcp? just curious why it doesn't show under netstat -tunlap [17:25] (4) [17:25] mancha: vbox is pretty neat, but all I use it for is playing an old windows game that won't work properly in wine [17:25] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.156.186) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [17:25] I remember it doing so in the past. [17:25] jonsmith1982: A TCP connection IS a socket [17:25] jonsmith1982: it can use either or both. Have a look at /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld [17:26] I betcha he means "unix domain sockets" [17:26] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:26] Urchlay: Oh ok [17:26] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [17:26] that reminds me of they "open sockets" in 24 to make it sound very techy [17:27] *of how they [17:27] "Open Sockets" <----- wasn't that a porno about linux programmers? [17:27] mancha: Your sentence still lacks a word or two [17:27] :P [17:27] beatzz (n=beatzz@cpe-24-167-96-211.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:27] are you sure? [17:28] Nick_Patterson: I'd LOVE to see that... NOT [17:28] mancha: Not at all in fact (I'd be if English was my main language :p ) [17:28] Nick_Patterson: im assuming lots of unzipping and mounting going [17:28] on [17:28] wineuser: The RMS character is like that super porno star --- forgot his name. [17:29] xsamurai: lol [17:29] the sequel, "unzip, mount, and fsck the socket" was better [17:29] 1000 Internets to the first one to quote "THE UNIX WAY OF SEX" [17:29] SIGBUS_ (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) left irc: No route to host [17:29] in an udev rule, what does ATTR{type}="1" correspond to? ("type" is a bit vague) [17:30] Nick_Patterson: Oh, you mean the one with a huge... bookcase, right? [17:30] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-34-175-102.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:30] wineuser: Yeah, he's fat and has a mustache. [17:30] ron jeremy is known for his hard drive [17:30] That's it. [17:30] xsamurai: Ahah [17:30] lol [17:30] its unmountable on some systems [17:30] depends on he device [17:30] sorry, what *could* it mean? [17:31] timeout, size, removable, etc [17:31] paul_Ram (n=paul@cpe-24-167-96-211.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:31] it's a network interface [17:31] nick beatzz [17:31] vendor, device, etc etc [17:31] All these great puns... I think a porno about Linux programmers would work. [17:31] Nick change: paul_Ram -> beatzz [17:31] I heard Ron Jeremy doesn't do scripts exactly like others... [17:31] See? Even paul_Ram would work. [17:31] mancha, ok, i did it all as said [17:32] instead of the #! (shebang) he writes the hebangs characters [17:32] mancha, but i have a problem [17:32] mancha, EXT4-fs: unable to read superblock [17:32] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [17:32] mount: moutning /dev/sda2 on /tmp failed: Invalid argument [17:33] ERROR: no /sbin/init found on rootdev (or not mounted). Trouble ahead [17:33] ? [17:33] you have a copy of your previous kernel, right? [17:33] yes [17:34] boot off of it? [17:34] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:34] right.... [17:34] wait a sec, that ones messed up now too [17:35] egregor (n=bfgh@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "Reconnecting" [17:35] adamk_: Ok, I just did "xinit -- :1.0" and my second X server started without a problem... problem solved... I guess :) [17:35] egregor (n=bfgh@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [17:36] [1]DaveyTheChin (n=DaveyThe@pool-72-91-150-198.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:36] vhann (n=vhann@vl102-res-out.collegeahuntsic.qc.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:36] egregor (n=bfgh@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: Client Quit [17:36] Hello Wineuser, you look alot like my account used to play Wine games [17:37] Camarade_Tux, ok im booting the laptop via SLAX [17:37] That's probably what I am vhann [17:37] wineuser (n=wineuser@vl102-res-out.collegeahuntsic.qc.ca) left irc: "leaving" [17:37] gana take a second look at lilo.conf and the mkinitrd i did [17:37] see if its all kosher [17:37] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [17:38] Camarade, i remember reading about this but i don't remember anymore [17:39] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.22.109) joined ##slackware. [17:40] ok im screwed here [17:40] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.165) joined ##slackware. [17:40] i think the SLAX i have dosent know anything about ext4 [17:40] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.165) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:40] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.165) joined ##slackware. [17:40] i cant even mount the sda2 to check my lilo.conf [17:40] anyone have a link to an udev rules tutorial he finds good? [17:40] _Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.79.12) joined ##slackware. [17:41] beatzz: you have a slackware installer? (cd/dvd, usb key, whatever?) [17:41] i have a desktop w/ slackware12.2, a usb stick with SLAX, and a laptop w/ slackware13 that neither the original kernel, or the new one will boot [17:42] both kernels giving errrors about the HD [17:42] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.23.85) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [17:42] <- talking to u via desktop [17:42] how did the older kernel go bunk? [17:43] beatzz: how did you install slackware, [17:43] ? [17:43] did you only make the edit to lilo.conf that is in the readme or did you mae more changes? [17:43] ahh i installed it via DVD [17:43] correct mancha only what was on the readme [17:43] as a matter of fact, I copy/pasted it [17:44] added large-memory to the gobal section [17:44] Camarade_Tux, but i dont have that DVD here with me [17:44] so your old kernel entry is the same/ [17:44] left my DVD's at home [17:44] beatzz: you can use the dvd to boot your slackware installation: boot on the DVD and *READ* what is written on screen (you may want root=X) [17:44] ah [17:44] mancha, correct [17:44] beatzzz: google grub, make a grub floppy or something, boot fyour machine and fix it kid, and now go away [17:44] :-) [17:45] or usb-and-pxe-installers [17:45] beatzz: you have an usb key? [17:45] Camarade_Tux, yes, 8gb [17:45] Camarade_Tux: Isn't there some kind of a tutorial about udev on tldp.org? [17:45] then your old kernel should boot fine. why did you fuss with ext4? is your partition ext4? [17:46] mancha, yes it is ext4, the default during slackware 13 setup [17:46] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [17:46] Bassist (n=bass@mnch-5d858c1b.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:46] i will reboot the laptop again useing original kernel, and see what it dose. again. [17:46] Nick_Patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-svyunevovblubxwb) left irc: "Page closed" [17:46] ok so you fucked something up. pastebin your lilo.conf and pastebin your exact bootup error [17:46] yeah whatever just don't go to google grub [17:47] mancha, thats the thing, i cant get to my lilo.conf [17:47] boot old kernel, yo [17:47] i am [17:47] i did, it errored again [17:47] vhann: gonna check [17:47] i dident touch that entry in lilo.conf either [17:48] there is a step by step manual on the internet how to make a grub floppy, and how to use it to chose interactively a partition and the kernel image you want to boot [17:48] i will pastebin what it dose [17:48] but why not to have a nice 2 hour talk before, right [17:48] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.84.86) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:48] mancha, this will take a sec, i gata type it out by hand on this PC [17:50] vhann: nope =/ [17:51] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/CuDjz951.html [17:51] i think i told it in mkinitrd to use sda2 [17:51] but my root patition is sda1 thing things saying [17:52] i think that could be the problem [17:52] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-88-244.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "I'm going off line for a while be back maybe later or the day after tomarrow. See y'all :-)" [17:52] thats a problem surely. but it should not affect the old kernel [17:52] but it did somehow [17:52] when i select the old kernel at the lilo page [17:52] it loads the new kernel [17:52] except that error has 2.6.30.5 in it, i want the bootup error for old kernel [17:53] but that is the error, when i select Linux [17:53] not LinuxNew [17:53] Linux = old kernel, LinuxNew is the new one [17:53] ok so lilo.conf is screwed. boot slackware install dvd, mount sda1 and look at lilo.conf [17:53] :/ crap [17:54] i dident bring dvd.... 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[17:55] Action: mancha is confused [17:55] and it brought me to a / # prompt [17:55] so i did mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/ [17:55] ok so... im inside my sda1 now, im looking at lilo.conf [17:56] i don't follow anymore, you can't boot, you can boot, linux-new breaks, linux-new works. what up yo? stop drinking the kool-aid [17:56] shure enough w/ new kernel i told it root=sda2 [17:56] ok mancha , when i boot LinuxNew [17:56] it errors, but then brings me to a prompt [17:56] saying "try to fix it" [17:56] ok and linux (vanilla) breaks [17:56] with a "/ #" prompt [17:57] but tries to boot linux-new [17:57] PiterPunk: slackware11's announcement says you should be the one bothered with questions about udev rules :P [17:57] so i did "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" [17:57] "cat /mnt/etc/lilo.conf" [17:57] ok what does /mnt/etc/lilo.conf look like? [17:57] nvision (n=nvision@g225062004.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [17:57] PiterPunk: what does ATTR{type}="1" means in persisten-net?rules? [17:57] (I just had a computer where interface names changed) [17:57] ok, the NEW kernel config has the wronge "root" [17:57] and what about the old one? [17:58] the original one has the correct root, "root = sda1" [17:58] the original one has the correct root, "root = /dev/sda1" [17:58] what about the image line? [17:58] vanilla meat what ? [17:58] sorry mean [17:58] original states "image = /boot/vmlinuz" [17:59] ok so possibly the new kernel packages used the same name :( [17:59] NEW states "image = /boot/vmlinux-generic-smp-2.6.30.5-smp" [18:00] can you ls -ls /mnt/boot/vmlinuz* [18:00] yes [18:00] and the pointer file points to new kernel.... [18:00] :o... [18:00] what is /boot/vmlinuz? a symlink to the new? [18:00] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:00] okay, so change that image entry in lilo.conf to /boot/vmlinuz-full-name-here [18:01] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:01] for the old kernel [18:01] i hope I can 'pico' in vanila [18:01] image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.29... or whatever [18:01] i know vi, but its weird [18:01] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [18:02] ok i have to use vi -_-... [18:02] alterantively you can change the symlink [18:02] that might be easier and saner, actually [18:02] bingo, i like that better [18:02] rm /mnt/boot/vmlinuz; ln -s /mnt/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.29.... /mnt/boot/vmlinuz [18:02] beatzz: vi \o/ [18:03] i don't know what the default vmlinuz name is so i put those dot-dot-dots [18:03] matsuura (n=fushyoun@storm.angrycoder.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:03] mancha: hmmm, not sure it'd work [18:03] ice ice babie [18:04] should i use vmlinux-generic-smp-2.6.29.6-smp? [18:04] mancha: I think the symlink will point to /mnt/boot/vmlinuz and that will break at boot [18:05] beatzz: cd to /mnt/boot/ and then run: "ln -s vmlinux-2.6.29... vmlinuz" [18:05] packeteer (n=zed@203.36.227.227) joined ##slackware. [18:05] matsuura (n=fushyoun@storm.angrycoder.org) joined ##slackware. [18:05] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [18:05] ok, i have made the new link [18:05] (although I don't know what mancha is telling you to do ;) ) [18:06] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:06] beatz, what does /boot/vmlinuz point to now? [18:06] during discussion appear word vanilla , the term vanilla what mean ? [18:06] I hope you used vmlinuz and not vmlinux [18:06] ok so now i should be able to boot into old kerenl [18:06] let me reboot it [18:06] and yes i did vmlinuz [18:07] wait a second. i think the ln -s command was bad as camarade pointed out [18:07] it worked [18:07] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:07] ping jkwood [18:07] lets see if it boots [18:07] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) joined ##slackware. [18:07] shit it dident... [18:07] did you update the initrd? [18:07] goddamn it kid, why didn't you wait [18:08] no problems im back at the prompt anywaz [18:08] infoman: A Vanilla kernel is a kernel taken directly from kernel.org [18:08] we're on step #2 of 5 or more steps [18:08] okay re-mount it [18:08] infoman: original, unmodified [18:08] ok remounting [18:08] then cd to /mnt/boot [18:08] vhann u mean without any modification [18:09] now rm vmlinuz; ln -s vmlinuz-2.6.29... vmlinuz [18:09] the link is pointing to the orginal kernel [18:09] ok good [18:09] now back out, with "cd" [18:10] vmlinz -> vmlinuz-generic-smp-2.6.29.6-smp [18:10] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [18:10] ok 'cd' complet [18:10] night all [18:10] classic situation [18:10] night [18:10] night macavity [18:10] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "...And thanks for all the fish!" [18:10] and run lilo -r /mnt [18:10] infoman: well, yeah but that doesn't account for distribution kernels (as distro developpers modify kernels) [18:10] "our server is throwing event log errors" [18:11] /bin/sh: lilo: not found [18:11] /sbin/lilo -r /mnt [18:11] slackware doesd not modify kernels [18:11] /sbin/lilo: not found [18:11] haha!!! [18:11] so you're on a crippled system [18:12] So I look at the log and it is error "0x8007000E" aka: out of memory. So I look at the disks, 600MB free on disks, pagefile is totally full and system mem has 66M out of 1GB free...GG guys [18:12] i told him to use grub to boot the machine like 1/2 hour ago [18:12] im out of time for now anywaz... [18:12] i will just reinstall slackware 13. [18:12] bye [18:12] ok, do this: chroot /mnt /sbin/lilo -q [18:12] wife and kids been waiting for me in the car for a long time [18:13] XGizzmo: If I say kernels with 4 version numbers, that would be better for you? [18:13] hey that worked [18:13] and then chroot /mnt /sbin/lilo [18:13] after you do that you should be able to boot into the *OLD* kernel [18:14] then oce in there fix the new kernel stuff by following the instructions correctly for initrd and lilo.conf [18:14] ok, lets see here [18:14] :O [18:14] u are amazing [18:14] br00tal (n=jesse@host-198-156-2-96.midco.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:14] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:14] wait... [18:14] it booted old kerenl [18:14] but its fucked again. [18:14] define fucked again [18:15] the only thing i csn think of is a screwed System.map link which would need to get fixed as you did the vmlinuz link [18:15] kernel panic - not syncing VFS [18:16] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:16] get to prompt, mount to /mnt and look in /mnt/boot for what System.map points to [18:16] :/ [18:17] gtg this sucks [18:17] sory man, thanks for the help. [18:17] seriously [18:17] that should do it though...try it when you have a chance again [18:17] welcome [18:17] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:17] what SHOULD it point to? [18:17] System.map -> ? [18:17] the original system map [18:17] ok [18:17] i will check it when iget him [18:17] home* [18:17] peace all [18:18] System.map-2.6.29... [18:18] mbohun, lighten up on us newbs [18:18] u were there too once [18:18] :p [18:18] System.map is the least of your worries though [18:18] System.map will not stop the boot process [18:18] beatzz (n=paul@cpe-24-167-96-211.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "peace all, much <3" [18:18] Xgizzmo, it certainly will [18:18] no it will not [18:18] vhann (n=vhann@vl102-res-out.collegeahuntsic.qc.ca) left irc: "leaving" [18:18] i certainly will not [18:18] it [18:20] Action: Camarade_Tux has forgotten how to update it and is still booting fine [18:20] oh, I remember now :) [18:20] I have posted this in here in the past but here it is again http://dirac.org/linux/system.map/ [18:20] my kernels require appropriate symbols to boot [18:20] Camarade_Tux: hey man! how are you [18:20] ? [18:20] it will not panic because of it [18:21] dude [18:21] DUDE [18:21] DOOD [18:21] not syncing / means that it can't mount / at all [18:21] yeah that dude was for mancha [18:21] thepeng (n=master@m450436d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [18:21] meaning that the FS is not built into the initrd (or statically), or the chipset to mount that partition isn't in there [18:21] elliot98 (n=elliot@bzq-79-183-118-234.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [18:22] thepeng (n=master@m450436d0.tmodns.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:22] hi gar0t0, I'm gine, and you? :) [18:22] kozandr (n=kozandr@92.243.174.247) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:22] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [18:23] Camarade_Tux: I'm fine too :) [18:24] alicephilippa (i=alice@80.187.213.183) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:24] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[18:35] :) [18:35] didn't get your question [18:36] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [18:36] kozandr (n=kozandr@92.243.174.247) joined ##slackware. [18:36] again is their POV ( point of view) to modify or un-modify the kernel ? [18:36] infoman: as in tips or suggestions or reasons ? [18:36] "their" ? [18:37] like my cat and like their dog [18:37] general idea why need modification [18:37] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [18:37] ip-route (n=iproute@200.172.83.136) joined ##slackware. [18:37] that is still not english [18:37] sorry [18:38] general idea why WE need/want to modify (the linux/unix kernel) [18:38] yes :) [18:40] infoman: you modify the kernel to add/remove features you might need/not need [18:40] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:41] tuning existing features for better performance [18:41] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:41] 1. you got some piece of hardware that is not supported (or switched on) in the 'current' version of kernel, 2. you want to build a custom kernel (optimized) for your system, etc [18:41] lots of reason, just depends on your need [18:42] and of course like in my case - one can suffer from a delicate medical condition that makes you recompile your kernel 2-3 times a day [18:42] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.150.27) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [18:43] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. 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[19:49] deco: 12.2 [19:49] flash working great here in firefox [19:49] thumbs: oh [19:49] thumbs: maybe try upgrading , frensh install [19:50] it might be a leftover from my accumulated profile, I don't know. [19:50] fresh* [19:50] if you can [19:50] well since this is a 64bit processor, I'll go sw64, eventually. [19:52] deco: I play a few flash games, then boom. No more youtube. [19:52] hm, french install, i wonder what Camarade_Tux has to say about that ;) [19:53] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [19:55] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:55] greetings and salutations [19:56] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:56] deco: oh, and I don't do French [19:56] greetings andarius, how are you? :) [19:56] salutations fire|bird, i am well, you ? [19:56] apoca_ (n=a@haydn.n2.nognu.de) joined ##slackware. [19:57] apoca_ (n=a@haydn.n2.nognu.de) left irc: Client Quit [19:57] Action: andarius would like to do a few french :o [19:57] andarius: I am great, thank you. :) [19:59] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [20:01] the french girls i played with were boring [20:02] they laid still, like they were dead or something [20:02] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) joined ##slackware. [20:02] nyRednek: hehehe [20:02] thumbs: i like a girl to move [20:02] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-34-175-102.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:02] you should always check a pulse before getting emotionally attached. [20:03] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [20:03] velusip: when i finished, they got up...they were fine, just boring in bed [20:04] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:04] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:04] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-34-175-102.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:06] Nick change: nooper_ -> nooper [20:07] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [20:07] this is probably dumb, but why doesn't /version work in freenode [20:07] or rather returns bad argument for user command [20:07] hugohagogo (n=cleber@189.23.230.12) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:08] thepeng: /ctcp version [20:08] nyrednek: ah thanks [20:08] StevenR_ (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:09] thepeng: yeah, you're using xchat, i'm using irssi in a screen [20:09] try "/ver username" [20:09] it's just a shortcut for typing what nyRednek said, doesn't necessarily exist in all irc clients [20:09] urchlay: coo, hah I was mispelling my username when I first tried it... man i gotta get my stuff together [20:10] Nick change: thepeng -> tehpeng [20:10] what, no tab completion? [20:10] hey cataclysmic|subintervals [20:10] Urchlay: was thinking the same thing [20:10] err Urchlay [20:10] hey, direct|burntness [20:11] the command /ctcp version is universal...works in telnet [20:12] works in telnet on every network [20:12] yep [20:13] /ver could be defined as an alias in any halfway decent irc client [20:13] Urchlay: yeah [20:13] irc'ing via telnet is kinda painful, you have to be quick on the draw manually responding to those pings [20:13] Urchlay: yeah, i know [20:14] Urchlay: the only reason to do it is if you're trying to compromise someone's security [20:14] nah, the reason I did it, was to learn the IRC protocol well enough to write my own client [20:15] thepeng (n=master@m350436d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [20:15] i did it to send custom packets out on the fly through an irc network [20:15] tehpeng (n=master@m350436d0.tmodns.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:15] in fact the first step in writing a client was to write a dumb telnet client that would auto-respond to the server pings, and pass everything else as-is [20:16] I *really* wish there were a way, on freenode, to avoid having the server send you the giant MOTD every time you connect [20:16] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:16] Drone4four (n=drone4fo@CPE001e58060588-CM001cea644aca.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [20:16] Urchlay: last i checked, there isn't [20:16] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:16] msgs [20:16] mis [20:16] (my client is for the Atari 800, which can theoretically do 9600 baud, but on my hardware I only get 4800. Takes a *long* time to wait for the MOTD...) [20:17] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [20:17] Urchlay: ah... [20:17] Urchlay: that sounds ambitious [20:17] it actually works :) [20:17] Urchlay: cheers [20:17] Urchlay: so what kind of development system on that? microsoft basic? [20:17] nah [20:18] written in C and 6502 assembly. Used cc65 (cross compiler for 6502, runs on Linux) and dasm (cross assembler) [20:18] on atari 800? nope. you can get atari basic, or if you shell out: atari basic xl [20:19] microsoft basic does (did) exist for the 800, came on floppy disk. Very few people ever used it, though [20:19] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:19] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:19] really? never made it into my part of the world [20:19] live and learn [20:19] ananke: Turbo BASIC XL, man. Does most of what BXL does, and is public domain [20:19] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [20:20] Action: ananke has fond memories of that [20:20] nyRednek: I wrote all the code in vim, with some custom syntax highlighting for 6502 asm. I'd hate to go back to using the Atari to develop for the Atari... ugh [20:21] thepeng (n=master@m350436d0.tmodns.net) left ##slackware. [20:22] ananke: yah, you never forget your first love :) [20:22] i started on zx spectrum, so yes, atari was my first love :) [20:22] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:22] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:22] you actually _typed_, rather than pressing key combinations [20:23] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [20:24] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:25] frullet (n=hooch@203-206-19-122.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [20:27] yeh, I remember the timex/sinclair machines. Never owned one, but played with one once or twice [20:28] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl6-194-251.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [20:28] I actually started with an atari 400, the 800's little brother. You had to type on it, but it had a membrane keyboard (bigger than the timex, standard-ish qwerty layout) [20:29] Camarade_Tux: ATTR{type}=1 -> This is a physical interface [20:30] the nice thing about those spectrums was the fact that you didn't need to buy specific mass storage. you could use any analog tape player [20:30] Urchlay: i remember ordering a $20 computer that had a "keyboard" that had to be manipulated with pins and a 4 line lcd screen [20:32] mfillpot (n=matt@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:32] this was early 90s, where the hottest tech out was an ibm ps/2(2 3.5 drives, no hd) available to us [20:32] good evening everyone [20:32] the monitor was built into the unit, and it had a secondary keyboard [20:33] I'm currently having some problems getting to a gui or webbrowser, can someone please tell me what HPET is? [20:33] alice (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:33] but the little machine i ordered, had no expansion, and ran a copy of basic(oh, it had a couple wires for a tape drive) [20:34] nyRednek: do you remember what it was called? [20:34] hcfd (n=fed@host86-131-171-200.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:35] Urchlay: something stupid like nanoputer [20:35] hcfd (n=fed@host86-165-61-2.range86-165.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [20:35] Guest1703 (n=caio@190.244.41.20) left irc: "leaving" [20:35] i got busted using its serial port to screw with an apple network [20:35] ananke: on the atari machines, even the tape deck was proprietary, had to buy theirs (and there are pretty much zero of them still working today, due to poor design: the belt develops a permanent kink, if you leave it sitting too long without using it) [20:36] after that, i got a tandy coco 3 [20:36] maybe it was the 80s [20:36] I remember those, they were pretty cool machines [20:36] they were [20:37] the israeli editions had a switch on the keyboard to switch charset [20:37] you used english charset for programming, and hebrew charset for interaction [20:38] was it actually useful with regular apps, or did you have to have special hebrew-aware versions of them? [20:38] you could use standard coco apps on it [20:38] nice [20:38] but only hebrew-aware apps were bidi [20:39] I used to be seriously jealous of the 6809 [20:39] bidi==bi-directional(hebrew alphabet was right to left [20:39] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl7-76-56.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:39] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [20:39] was/is [20:41] i wish there was a terminal on linux that actually emulated a vt220 [20:42] xterm and other terminals don't actually emulate the terminal [20:42] mfillpot (n=matt@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [20:42] yeah, the atari 800XL came in an arabic version at one point, but it didn't do right-to-left. The manual actually stated that you should put a mirror next to the monitor and train yourself to only look at the mirror image... [20:43] hm, I have a real vt220 [20:43] GammelSokk (n=johskar@137.84-48-41.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [20:43] 220's were bidi [20:43] they would encounter a char, and if it was told to expect charsets from latin and hebrew or latin and arabic, it'd switch directions as it encountered different charsets [20:44] kinda screwed you over if you had the texts side-by-side iirc [20:44] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.77.65.190) left irc: "leaving" [20:45] what year was the vt220 originally made? that's pretty impressive, it had to be the 1980s [20:45] at one point, we had an israeli computer maker that made hebrew-only machines [20:46] it was intel-based, but didn't support an american ms-dos [20:47] their philosophy: machines only understand binary...why not make everything above that native for us? [20:47] I should have one of those, when/if I ever get huge sacks of dollars and start my Museum of Archaic Computers [20:48] also, afaik, the wild weasel software is hebrew-only [20:48] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) joined ##slackware. [20:48] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) left ##slackware. [20:48] wild weasel is electronic countermeasures on fighter jets [20:48] hrr, what kinda high-level language would that use? [20:48] Urchlay: assembly [20:49] it's relatively easy to make assembly speak other human languages [20:51] tehpeng (n=fircuser@m350436d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [20:51] i know at one point, there was a gimel project(gimel being third letter of hebrew alphabet) to port c to hebrew [20:51] wooo irc on my cell phone [20:53] tehpeng: you know, you can screen irssi then ssh from your phone to irc [20:53] GammalSokk (n=johskar@137.84-48-41.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:53] Urchlay: but then again, that was a wasteful military project [20:54] Urchlay: not sure if it was ever declassified [20:54] Urchlay: oops [20:54] yah for some reason tho in my term my keyboard will vanish and i have to restart to get it back [20:54] impy (n=impy@88.147.64.235) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:55] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:55] what up slackers [20:56] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [20:56] which phone? [20:57] tehpeng (n=fircuser@m350436d0.tmodns.net) left irc: "Powered by fIRC v0.2.12, the android IRC client." [20:57] anyone got a cheapo vid cam lying around? [20:59] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:03] nyRednek: I meant something like C, or even interpreted like old-style BASIC [21:04] a computer that you could *only* program in assembly would be out-competed, in the 1980s [21:04] bosse_ (i=1000@c-94-255-240-134.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:05] Alba[onga (n=alpha@93-45-133-169.ip102.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [21:06] tuxdev (n=tim@adsl-75-5-198-208.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] arcaos_ (n=arcaos@190.177.48.79) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:12] qwebirc63393 (i=74446372@gateway/web/freenode/x-uivlxebattryosvq) joined ##slackware. [21:13] qwebirc63393 (i=74446372@gateway/web/freenode/x-uivlxebattryosvq) left irc: Client Quit [21:14] qwebirc2973 (i=74446372@gateway/web/freenode/x-wpybsidnfrtvcjjy) joined ##slackware. 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[21:23] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:25] what it won't do is detect if files have been modified (e.g. if you're trying to see whether your ps binary has been overwritten with a rootkit version, the slackware package system can't help you with that) [21:27] eh, well, it'll tell you if the timestamp is newer, but that's it (doesn't do a checksum of file contents or whatever) [21:29] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:30] Hey, i have a Ubuntu server here at home, and i wanna access it from slackware via ssh [21:30] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [21:30] the idea is to don't access to it phisical [21:31] simple enough. What's your question? [21:36] Urchlay, I was trying to write my own verifypkg. BTW, why isn't there a file with a md5 for each file in a package, that can be verified - to automate that nothing has been changed? [21:38] Urchlay, Right now I have a feeling that I might have deleted a file - so I wanted to verify that I didn't delete something important. [21:39] eddief: easy solution, if you think you deleted a file from a package, reinstall the package [21:40] nyRednek, if anything is missing, I want to know WHAT file is missing. [21:40] Alba[onga (n=alpha@93-45-133-169.ip102.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [21:41] i have multilib installed and compat32 files and i cant execute 32 binary, when i installed it worked but stopped working :S [21:41] i get this [21:41] /usr/bin/googleearth: line 49: /opt/GoogleEarth/googleearth-bin: No existe el fichero o el directorio [21:41] /usr/bin/googleearth: line 49: /opt/GoogleEarth/googleearth-bin: Conseguido [21:44] eddief: eh, anything that can change your binaries, could also change the stored md5 sum [21:45] any idea? [21:45] The md5sum for each file in a package can be stored in a safe place, USB thumb drive [21:45] Budd^ (n=budd@adsl-75-54-117-105.dsl.renocs.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "[BX] Reserve your copy of BitchX-1.1-final for the Apple Newton today!" [21:47] eddief: you're describing tripwire (something that already exists, but doesn't come with slackware) [21:47] acidtripper: no idea, but it might help if you set your locale to English, so the non-spanish-speaking in this channel could at least read the error messages... [21:48] i can translate it: [21:48] "No existe el fichero o el directorio" I assume means "No such file or directory", but what does "Conseguido" mean? [21:48] conseguido = found [21:49] does /opt/GoogleEarth/googleearth-bin actually exist? [21:51] yes it exists [21:51] Urchlay, I've heard of tripwire - I thought it might be good to have a pkgtool to audit/verify a Slackware install - I wish I had one now, So I'm trying to write one and finding out I need to learn more about bash scripting - or do in in Perl, which I don't know enough of [21:52] maybe becouse i upgraded [21:52] some days ago [21:53] Urchlay, the main reason is that I think I deleted some file , and I don't know which [21:53] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) left irc: "Leaving" [21:53] Urchlay, my goof, not an attack [21:53] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) joined ##slackware. [21:53] i will try reinstalling compat 32 [21:53] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) left ##slackware. [21:54] Budd^ (n=budd@adsl-75-54-117-105.dsl.renocs.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:55] im remaking all compat32 packages,and then i will reinstall them [21:55] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:56] eddief: I'd say, go for it. It can't hurt you to learn, and if you can actually come up with a useful tool, that's even better [21:57] which is the best option to reinstall them? upgrade? install-new? or just install? [21:58] eddief: but for a quick & dirty "which file did I delete?", try "removepkg -warn pkgname | grep 'no longer exist'" [21:58] I'd probably use "upgradepkg --reinstall whatever.tgz" [21:59] Urchlay, AH! warn! That sounds good. Again I ALSO want to know what I might done to cause the problem. I'll try removepkg... [21:59] Urchlay, "might HAVE done" [22:01] Skipping package pixman-compat32-0.15.18-x86_64-1 (already installed) [22:01] i'll remove all packages first [22:03] Urchlay, what weakness does something like tripwire have? Sounds like a good solution to finding unauthorized changes - cron job run hourly or more frequently [22:06] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-141.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:08] skysong_ (n=indecent@41.136.194.25) joined ##slackware. [22:11] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-141.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] skysong (n=indecent@ADSL-TPLUS-84-245.telecomplus.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [22:13] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-207-68-60-133.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:13] heya,slackers [22:14] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-141.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:16] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [22:16] heya MLanden [22:16] heya fire|bird...how's it going? [22:16] MLanden: great, thanks. you? [22:17] l_n (n=shawn@tuxhacker/lordnothing) joined ##slackware. [22:17] good thanks fire|bird [22:17] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-141.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [22:18] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [22:19] alienBOB, are you there? [22:19] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [22:19] i have a doubt... [22:19] "The Big Bang Theory" is quite amusing tonight. [22:19] alienBOB, is better to convert packages to compat32 when using multilib or just install 64bits packages? [22:20] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-73-138.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:20] hi Mlanden, fire|bird [22:21] hey hitest, how are you? [22:21] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-1-41.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:21] I am well fire|bird, ty:) you? [22:21] hitest: great, thanks. [22:21] fire|bird: is better to convert 64 packages to compat32 or just use 64bits soft with multilib? [22:21] heya, hitest...how you doin'? [22:22] Heya MLanden, I am well, ty:) how are you? [22:23] fire|bird: :( never answear to me... any personal problem :S [22:23] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:23] ? [22:23] good to hear,hitest.....doin' well thanks [22:24] Action: hitest loves slackpkg:) [22:24] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:25] thanks fire|bird :( i just wanna have a good relationship [22:26] acidtripper: #dating is over there. ---------> [22:27] lol, not dating, but i always say hello, or ask any question and he doesn't answear... me be he's tired of my questions :( [22:27] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:27] may* [22:27] you think? [22:28] i don't know that's why im asking to him [22:28] did i somehow /ignore fire|bird or has (s)he said nothing? [22:28] maybe the acid in your name scared him, and you're on /ignore? [22:29] better way to know and to have positive changes is talking [22:29] maybe i have to change my nickname :( [22:29] it's a bit drugaddict :( [22:29] and im not ... [22:30] _Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.79.12) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:31] lsd is not addictive [22:31] acidtripper: what is your mother tongue? [22:31] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [22:31] spanish [22:31] twolf: true. but damn it was fun when i was younger. [22:31] wineuser (n=wineuser@vl102-res-out.collegeahuntsic.qc.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:31] l_n: indeed [22:31] :) [22:31] lechucknet (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [22:31] it's fun but when you take it frequently it stop being funny [22:31] it would still be fun today [22:32] How do I find how to disable an "autoconf" package or feature? [22:32] taking what? [22:32] l_n, do i have to many spelling mistakes? [22:32] lsd [22:32] acidtripper: basic syntax/grammar [22:32] Hi fire|bird [22:32] normal for ESL [22:33] taking what? you talking about drugs? [22:33] yes, i sat for make international exams, and i know but i have to go deep on it [22:33] (language) [22:33] antiwire, taking lsd is bad for health and body [22:33] C20H25N3O [22:33] never had LSD [22:34] lechucknet (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Client Quit [22:34] acidtripper: actually it takes such a small dose it really isn't bad for your body, mind is different [22:34] yes, [22:34] id probably trip out taking that stuff now [22:34] twolf, had you used it? [22:34] been way to long [22:35] acidtripper: I belong to Timothy Leory's mile high club [22:35] but then you feel a bit depressed [22:35] :P i dont trust you ! [22:36] multilib problem solved reinstalling multilib and compat32 packages [22:36] upgrade messed up it [22:36] acidtripper: actually, lsd lasts approx. 8-12 hrs and is metabolised within 24 (IIRC (the effects is accurate, period of time it takes to metabolize may be wrong.)) [22:37] effects are, not is [22:37] acidtripper: oh, and the minimum effective dose is measured in micrograms. [22:37] effect is, effects are [22:37] captain engrish [22:37] meh [22:38] mm, here i have two bike-rolling stones [22:38] when I was in high school it was available in massive quantities, for practically nothing, pretty much my whole school tripped out on a regular basis [22:38] however real brain damage is not proved i don't like to blow out my mind [22:39] twolf, age? [22:39] 42 [22:39] 36 [22:39] lol, lsd was legal at that moment? [22:39] twolf: ~$5/dose? [22:39] l_n: $5 a dose or $20 a sheet, or viles for free from my friends dad [22:39] acidtripper: legality doesn't matter. it's readily available if you know who to ask. [22:40] twolf: i take it you took advantage of the free vials? [22:40] mm, nowadays is like 10$, here i pay it 50 argentine $ like 13 dls [22:40] indeed, nothing like dosing a party of 100 [22:40] i think sheets come from mexico or brasil [22:40] amsterdam or european ones are better [22:40] acidtripper: i think most of it in the US is domestic. [22:40] cathy_chang1 (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) joined ##slackware. [22:41] it's such a fragile molecule it doesn't hold up well if transported improperly. [22:41] is to difficult to syntethise* it [22:41] cathy_chang1 (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) left ##slackware. [22:42] the main source for lsd in the world was busted near my home in 2003, Pickard, I think he was the reason it was so pleantiful until then [22:42] so is a bit difficult to make it at home [22:42] cathy_chang1 freaks me out [22:42] it's a total cover [22:42] i didn't say it was homemade. just domestic. [22:42] it is nearly imposible to get the materials in the US anymore [22:42] apart from being a chemical you have to know howto do it [22:43] yes PHD in chemistry helps [22:43] its sytethized from cornezuelo de centeno [22:43] antiwire: yeah that craps been going on for days now. [22:43] eh. psylocibin is a much better trip, anyway. [22:44] cathy_chang1? [22:44] l_n: I don't like it as much, but I still eat them every couple years [22:44] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:44] i had never tried amanita muscaria [22:44] but in my country there's a page which send you via email [22:44] mail* [22:44] amanita muscaria and salvia divinorum [22:44] twolf: i always thought it was a much more mellow way of peeking through mental veils. [22:45] im reading Pickard history :P [22:45] veils? [22:45] l_n: depends on how much you eat, I ate too much a few times [22:46] they would produce a kilogram of LSD approximately every 5 weeks. [22:46] MY GOD, a lot! [22:46] salvia divinorum isn't mellow [22:46] twolf: i've done that, too. ended up sleeping off suicidal urges. [22:46] acidtripper: yep, I grew up 20 miles from there [22:46] it's like a tennis racket to the face [22:46] i ussually eat middle [22:46] or 1/4 [22:47] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:47] but i don't want to continue eating that [22:47] then don't [22:48] there are much better psycho[tropic,active] chemicals available. [22:48] sounds like you have some personal issues you need to work out with yourself [22:49] like? [22:49] and you should really have your head straight before taking psychoactives. (i speak from experience) [22:49] especially peyote [22:49] Action: chopp wonders how the fsck ##slackware has become ##lsd_101 [22:49] like, in the first place, saying "but i don't want to continue eating that" [22:49] no, i event have any problem while doing that but.. it's not good to take drugs as part of your life [22:49] problem #1 having an issue with eating something which you can't control. [22:50] i can controle it man! [22:50] problem #2 telling an IRC channel about said issue. [22:50] but the idea is to change some things [22:50] 'nuf said [22:50] and we were talking about pickard and all that [22:50] either you stop or you don't. it's your issue [22:51] acidtripper: that's actually a very common addict's response (defensive "i can control it!") [22:51] lol [22:51] "I got it" [22:51] lol [22:51] man, we were talking about that and you started pulling my leg [22:51] but the idea is to live life without drugs [22:52] its cool for special occasions [22:52] that's your choice [22:52] i haven't taken drugs in 7-8 years now. [22:52] like christmas, new year, etc [22:52] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.41.7) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [22:52] that's part of your life though [22:52] yes [22:53] there are two sides to this; either you take drugs when you want or you take drugs when your subconscious wants. [22:53] so which is it? [22:54] i'll change my nickname :P [22:54] mm, i don't take drugs :D [22:54] i lost everything to drugs about 8 years ago [22:54] Camarade_Tux: yes. See the comments in the build script :) [22:54] wont touch em again [22:54] wife house job [22:54] the works [22:54] what kind of drugs Scuzz ? [22:54] Scuzz: damn. you good now? [22:54] snorting cocaine [22:55] mm thats a real poison!! [22:55] if you want to get down... [22:55] l_n, yep for about 8 years now [22:55] lot of people lost of becouse of that shit! [22:55] all* [22:55] it takes to lose everything before you realizre you have a problem [22:56] losing everything ws the best thing that ever happend [22:56] id probably be dead if it wasnt for that [22:56] Scuzz: congrats on your sobriety. i like hearing about people that have kicked. [22:56] yeah [22:57] i still want it [22:57] but i know better [22:57] i went to rehab [22:57] That's usually the point at which people who are not completely gone realize it is time to make a real change and affect the people around them for the better, as well as themselves. [22:57] play the tape all the way through [22:57] and they asked me [22:57] how ddi you do the cocaine [22:57] did you snort it [22:57] did you smoke it [22:57] and i said [22:57] i only snorted it becasue i didnt want to get addicted [22:57] hehe [22:57] yeah even the chick laughed [22:58] hrm [22:58] Action: Dominian is curious how this has to do with Slackware? [22:58] agreed [22:58] haha [22:58] good point [22:58] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:58] i jsut joind in on the convo [22:59] absolutely nothing, but right about now was a wonderful time for intervention. [22:59] meh. it was an interesting conversation and nobody really had any slack questions. [22:59] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:59] how about them txz's? [22:59] haha [22:59] i got a question though [22:59] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [22:59] drbd and heartbeat [23:00] 1234 [23:00] vaibhav (n=landy@122.167.85.22) joined ##slackware. [23:00] can it be configured to actually detect jsut a service down on the main server and kick in , or does it jsut kick in the second server when everything fails on the main ? [23:01] I just wiped my keyboard down with isopropyl and '1234' was the result. [23:01] er [23:01] you do something 'wrong' to your keyboard? [23:01] lol [23:02] eh, some splashing here, some spatter there...it's..whatever bro [23:02] man.. must've been something good. [23:02] haha [23:02] impy (n=impy@88.147.64.235) joined ##slackware. [23:02] I mean that's a good distance to 'shoot' considering where the average keyboard sits from the seat of your chair... [23:04] Hey, sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't [23:05] so you swing both ways [23:05] lol [23:05] Action: Dominian is on a roll tonight [23:05] yep [23:07] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) joined ##slackware. [23:07] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) left ##slackware. [23:07] Dominian: haha [23:08] wow. in and out in <1min [23:08] I got nothing [23:08] cathy_chang is the fed [23:08] l_n: they make a creme for that, I'm sure... just check your spam folder :-) [23:09] vaibhav (n=landy@122.167.85.22) left irc: "Leaving" [23:09] l_n: is that how you roll? [23:09] cathy_chang is a Chinese bot system under control of the feds [23:09] no joke [23:10] Dominian: i was referring to cathy_chang [23:10] check the whois for yourself [23:10] l_n: I know [23:10] antiwire: your evidence? [23:10] check the whois! [23:10] l_n: I was taking a pop shot [23:10] the real whois, not IRC [23:10] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:10] wineuser (n=wineuser@vl102-res-out.collegeahuntsic.qc.ca) left irc: "leaving" [23:11] but back to the timing....they don't us minute men for nothing [23:11] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-98-249-3-190.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:11] im in slack 12.2 and i am having trouble reformating an ntfs drive to ext3 [23:11] any takers [23:12] it looks like cathy_chang is using a public university computer in china [23:12] AEnima1577: how are you running the command? [23:12] well first off [23:12] i on ly have command line [23:12] l_n: total bot style [23:12] for real [23:12] and i am having trouble figureing out where the extrenal harddrive is [23:12] icaro (n=icaro@unaffiliated/icaro) joined ##slackware. [23:12] hide in some .edu [23:12] checked /etc/fstab [23:12] typical [23:13] AEnima1577: you have to change the partition type first (via a partitioning tool) [23:13] and it doesnt appear to list anything in there that looks like a external HD [23:13] antiwire, which type, an internal, or external? [23:13] we're talking about "cathy" here...all internal [23:13] l_n, what is an example of a partitiing tool, fdisk? [23:14] you all know what I mean too. [23:14] Don't even try to deny it [23:14] AEnima1577: it won't be in /etc/fstab [23:14] AEnima1577: if you like torture [23:14] a little [23:14] cfdisk is more useful. [23:14] I imagine that at least 298 people are lol'ig right now, maybe even slackboy too [23:14] im more used to fdisk, so if you dont have a really good arguement for why i should try cfdisk, then i think im going to stick to what i know [23:15] because you can't figure it out [23:15] AEnima1577: it has a nifty curses interface [23:15] fdisk will do what you need to do too [23:15] fiyawerx (i=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:15] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:15] alright, antiwire, then anyone want to hlep me walk through this [23:15] plug it in, count to 10, and run "dmesg | tail" [23:15] i type fdisk /etc/ and i have 702 possibilities [23:15] antiwire: true, but linux fdisk is a bit more confusing than windoze fdisk [23:15] er [23:16] don't do that [23:16] but first off, the partition flags are one thing and the actual format of the partition is a whole different beast [23:16] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [23:16] same mother, different father type of thing [23:16] well anitwire, one step at a time right? [23:16] absolutely [23:16] which ones the bastard? [23:16] at this point, the flags [23:16] AEnima1577: all devices are actually listed in /dev not /etc [23:16] so i have 702 possibilites for what /dev/??? to use [23:17] AEnima1577: are you using ide, sata, pata, etc? [23:17] im with you on that l_n [23:17] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:17] its via usb [23:17] so it's the scsi subsystem [23:17] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:17] fdisk -l will show you any detected disks, with or without partitions [23:17] that's a lower case "L" [23:17] if i had to guess i would make a relatively good guess it is a pata [23:17] which means it will be /dev/sdX [23:17] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [23:18] AEnima1577: usb will be detected on the scsi bus [23:18] pastebin us the output of 'fdisk -l' 'mount' and 'dmesg' [23:18] horray [23:18] fdisk -l [23:18] shows me where its hiding [23:18] indeed [23:18] /dev/sda [23:18] so [23:18] lets run fdisk first right? [23:18] if you are certain, fdisk /dev/sda [23:19] but you could accidentally nuke your hdd [23:19] then begin your process of destroying all existing data in the device [23:19] no [23:19] they have the size listings [23:19] 250 vs. 30 gigs [23:19] be sure or be done [23:19] nooper (n=nooper@unaffiliated/nooper) left irc: "There is no spoon" [23:19] ok then. [23:19] im pretty sure the 30 is the internal and the 250 is the external [23:20] i checked it in windows, and it was approx 250, since it was in ntfs [23:20] love my lvm + xfs. [23:20] we are sure when we say "destroy all data". Are you sure when you say "I'm pretty sure.." ? [23:20] and even if i loose everything, its basically a fresh install which apache and php working [23:21] I say "What the Hell!" [23:21] i can do that again in a day, so just a minor headache [23:21] Remember that this channel does not express nor imply any warranty against any commands suggested [23:21] if i may tell a story [23:21] no stories [23:21] Action: fiyawerx grabs some popcorn [23:21] and buddy and i just purchased 2 eees [23:21] NO STORIES. [23:21] someone thre using multilib on slack64? i have some doubts while compilling a program without .slackbuild [23:21] if thrice kindly asks for no stories, i will tell no stories [23:21] so [23:21] with butter fiyawerx ? [23:21] acidtripper: why arent you using a slackbuild [23:22] on to fdisk [23:22] adrenaline: extra butter, halfway through, then more on top [23:22] :D [23:22] nice!! [23:22] Stories in this channel usually end poorly. Save the stories and show the facts. [23:22] couse im building gens emulator [23:22] antiwire: that and on noobfarm in one way or another [23:22] which is 32bits and there isn't any slackbuild available [23:22] haha [23:22] spook, ! [23:22] I swear, this channel is what keeps me coming back to slackware [23:22] Action: adrenaline thinks the slackware channel rulez [23:23] dare I ask what the hell you are puttingbutter on? [23:23] there's such a thing as KY for a reason y a know... [23:23] popcorn is good [23:23] Dominian, popcorn of course [23:23] Dominian: butter's organic [23:23] Is that what you guys are calling it these days? [23:23] cathy_chang1 (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) joined ##slackware. [23:23] si [23:23] im trying to chooose what type of partition [23:23] "hey baby.. I just.. 'buttered' my pop corn if you know what I mean..." [23:23] extended or primary [23:24] prob extended right? [23:24] any reason i should do a primary? [23:24] AEnima1577: more than likely primary if its going to be the first and only partition [23:24] mm i was doing configure it hanged then finished term and now compositor failed and panel dissapeared [23:24] I think "if you know what I mean!" works with just about everything [23:24] adrenaline: hrm.. don't i know you from somewhere? [23:24] If you know what I mean [23:24] it will be the first and only parition on this drive, but it will just be a slave drive for a computer [23:24] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) left irc: [23:25] AEnima1577: The partitioning of primary/extended has nothing to do whether the drive is master or slave [23:25] l_n == lord_nothing? [23:25] whats the most up to date gnome install for slack? gsb? [23:25] adrenaline: maybe. [23:25] fiyawerx: more than likely [23:25] :P [23:25] hehe I think we know each other [23:25] It has been a while [23:25] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:26] yeah. it has. [23:26] acidtripper, just trying it probably won't kill your firstborn or anything [23:26] primary it is then Dominian [23:26] ok [23:26] i think fdisk has done its duty [23:26] I am happy to see old linux guys still hacking [23:27] disks synced [23:27] and by old i mean long time [23:27] now i have written the partition table [23:27] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [23:27] adrenaline: heh. i'm old, too. turned 29 last month. ;) [23:27] i know there is something more to do before i can start writing to it [23:27] lol I have over 10 years on you [23:28] birthdays don't seem the same after 30 [23:28] good things your hormones are still pumping adrenaline [23:28] anyways.. time for me to go to bed. [23:28] l_n (n=shawn@tuxhacker/lordnothing) left irc: "sleep and stuff" [23:28] l_n nice seeing you again [23:28] oops [23:28] AEnima1577, yep [23:28] so, back to business [23:29] what am i missing [23:29] a file system ? [23:29] night all [23:29] gnight [23:30] gnight twolf [23:30] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:30] night,hitest [23:30] l_n i feel like you were the person anything i need to write the partition table first [23:30] what do i do second [23:30] fiyawerx: dropline's 'nother option [23:32] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [23:32] bernie_ (n=bernie@pool-71-173-216-229.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:32] MLanden: cool will look at both, thanks [23:32] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [23:32] I swear, being in some other distro channels makes me sick. Like that feeling you get when you've been by the beach but really feel grimy and just want to take a shower. [23:33] fiyawerx: why ? [23:33] someone needs to start a noobfarm type of site that's nothing but people insulting those asking questions [23:33] it isnt possible to have ext4 in slack 12.2 right/ [23:33] AEnima1577, not on the stock kernel [23:33] not even talking about myself, but the comments in #fedora are atrocious [23:33] but no problem writing ext3 right? [23:33] fiyawerx: if gnome's not your choice after trial...keep those libs and try some of xfce's newer software..:P [23:34] i've got an idea, let's rank on other distros! [23:34] MLanden: oh, actually.. i used to like xfce when i was trying 4 when it came out i think [23:34] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) joined ##slackware. [23:34] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30CC3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [23:34] mancha: dont mind the distro, its the community, thats why i love this one [23:34] fiyawerx, be kind i hang out in fedora too [23:34] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) left irc: "leaving" [23:34] someone there compiling x86 on slack64? [23:35] configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables [23:35] See `config.log' for more details. [23:35] without slackbuild [23:35] and i mean its a different type of channel for a differnt type of user, the less hardcore than the slack kids [23:35] acidtripper, slack64 is pure64-bit by default, and doesn't understand 32-bit [23:35] but i installed multilib packages [23:36] i did all this and with slackbuild i don't have any problem [23:36] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/ [23:36] the problem is while compiling by hand [23:36] neonflux (n=neonflux@209.19.58.106) joined ##slackware. [23:37] acidchild, I know that error [23:37] copy config.guess and config.sub from /usr/share/libtool [23:37] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:38] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [23:38] is it ok to write a fs to a device, not just a partition? [23:38] I don't think Linux cares.. any other OS probably does [23:38] mm [23:39] tuxdev, that would allow me to compile 32bits programs? [23:39] it would allow configure to actually recognize your system [23:40] damn this bad block checker is sllllloooowwwww [23:40] :40 sex and .02% done [23:40] llooks like ill be sleeping on this [23:41] tuxdev, is running make now [23:41] lets see if it goes okey [23:41] is zsnes, super nintendo emulator [23:42] sounds like it [23:43] acidtripper, yes, but I like snes9x better personally [23:43] zsnes has that annoying pseudo-gui that I really don't care for [23:43] error :S [23:43] f input file `linux/sdlintrf.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output [23:43] collect2: ld devolvió el estado de salida 1 [23:44] .1% at 4:28 [23:44] LANG=C results? [23:44] does anything think it would be wise to ctrl c this process and reopen it up in screen to start running it? [23:45] if it cut off the prcoess there shouldnt be any damange or anything write? [23:47] running snes9x slackbuild as specified on multilib page [23:47] modifing libdir from x86_64 arch [23:47] acidtripper, I just built gens here (but I'm not running 64 or multilib) [23:47] running 32 slack? [23:48] but my problem is that im running slackware64 souldn't be any problem with slack32 [23:48] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:51] night,folks...talk to all later [23:51] gnight MLanden [23:51] night,twolf [23:51] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-207-68-60-133.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Life is the greatest source...Seek it out and see how it compiles!" [23:52] acidtripper, what march and mtune flags are you using? [23:52] cause if you're not using a slackbuild you've got to be careful about those [23:52] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-99-66-208-243.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:53] I *can* give you the package I just built, but you've got to trust me not to be evil ;-) [23:53] why do you think i would be evil? [23:54] snes9x is working and im downloading a rom to test it [23:54] generator didn't worked ;S [23:54] he said you have to trust he isn't evil [23:54] acidtripper is evil [23:54] no :( [23:54] MarkT- (i=1000@S010600248c3ee38b.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:54] I should go get zerowing and sonic to check out this nifty gens [23:54] eddief (n=eddie@pool-68-161-207-20.ny325.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:55] I like n64 better [23:55] boo! [23:55] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-155-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:56] I installed the multilib packages for slackware and they seem to generally work, but the fonts are messed up in 32 bit apps. All the characters look like boxes. [23:56] I got both systems working here in their original glory [23:56] nifty [23:56] er... for slackware64, that is... [23:56] I wish I was old enough for that when I actually started caring about games [23:56] my favorite is Killer Instinct Gold on the 64 [23:57] Zosma (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:57] Zosma (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [23:57] nintendo 64? [23:57] yep [23:57] I have an atari 2600 that still works here too [23:58] 32bits packages go okey on my system problem is while building [23:58] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-99-66-208-243.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:58] tuxdev, what so and arch are you using? [23:58] packetee1 (n=zed@li83-175.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [23:58] Nick change: fau__ -> fAu [23:59] slack32 on a core2 duo [23:59] MarkT- (i=1000@S010600248c3ee38b.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:59] packeteer (n=zed@203.36.227.227) left irc: "leaving" [23:59] ah, zero wing, oh how I love your intro [00:00] --- Tue Nov 17 2009