[00:00] oldude67: or you can get one dvd image [00:00] fire|bird: I'm kinda liking arch, and have it installed on this test box at the moment....still loving my 4 Slackware 13 boxes:) [00:00] twolf , i would but my dvd burner died..lol [00:00] FriedBob: not bad, yourself? [00:01] oldude67: I am not sure about the cds but 2 should get you a working system and then you could get the rest later [00:01] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: [00:01] twolf that sounds like the 12 i was running, so ill try and worse comes to worse ill download the 3rd one too..lol [00:02] hmm it seems that there's no utf-8 support in elvis :( [00:02] anyone lxde with slack? [00:02] oops typo, anyone running lxde with slack>? [00:02] oldude67: http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php <-- will tell you what is on each disk [00:02] hitest: Yeah, there's nothing like slackware, but it's fun to mess around with other distros now and then. [00:02] agreed [00:03] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-124-184-136.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:04] this box isn't one of my main units, just a test bed. I'll probably tire of this soon and screw it up with gentoo or something:) [00:05] haha [00:05] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [00:05] ea_suter (n=easuter@84.90.182.83) left irc: "leaving" [00:05] :) [00:07] BP{k}, thanks, guess i need to go back and read the book again..been awhile since i have used it.think i already forgot to much now. [00:07] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.21.188) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:08] anyone able to tell me the ram requirements for slack off the top of there head...i know xfce is probably the desktop ill run. [00:08] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [00:09] Hi [00:09] Action: P4C0 wonders why slackware includes elvis... [00:09] elvis is everywhere [00:09] man dictd sucks balls [00:10] exterminerian, exterminerian! [00:10] godling: a dick sucks balls? [00:10] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:10] spook: idiot :P [00:11] I just emailed the maintainer of the dictd package and he fixed the issue I told him about, but now I'm getting a stupid error saying that dictd can't open its logfile for appending. [00:11] lol. [00:11] dang that mirror site is fast already done downloading the first disk. [00:11] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] now if I chmod 666 /var/log/dictd it works enough to log what errors it is encountering [00:12] I should right a new dictd program [00:12] this one is stupid [00:14] why do you want to run a dict server anyway? [00:14] apparently it drops privs to nobody/nogroup but none of the config files are set to be readable by nobody [00:15] slakmagik: sometimes I'm not connected to the internet and I like to consult a dictionary. :P [00:15] okay :) [00:15] stardict is sort of ugly [00:15] . [00:15] bulky, I mean [00:15] FriedBob_ (n=FriedBob@c-98-233-71-205.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:16] right now I just use the terminal [00:16] Paz (n=Paz@adsl-70-233-135-117.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:17] hoho` (n=hooh@190.166.118.104) joined ##slackware. [00:19] Hi [00:19] hey [00:19] sup [00:19] i cant make sound work, all drivers are installed modules loaded [00:19] alsamixer okey [00:20] turn on your speakers [00:20] jajaja laptop, and speakers turned on [00:20] lol* [00:20] are the channels unmuted? [00:20] ajam [00:20] yea [00:21] you're not deaf? [00:21] ;P [00:21] anyone up for a balloon ride? ;) [00:21] :P [00:21] what chipset acidtripper? [00:21] i 965 [00:22] hda intel [00:23] lets go for the ballon ride [00:23] baloon [00:23] Loading driver... [00:23] Loading ALSA mixer settings: /usr/sbin/alsactl restore [00:23] Setting default volumes... [00:23] alsaconf worked okey, any error [00:23] lspci|grep -i audio [00:23] ? [00:24] I'm using snd_hda_intel but I've got the 82801H [00:25] same here [00:25] godling [00:25] kernel? alsa drivers? [00:25] pgeek||_ (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [00:25] 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) [00:27] everything's standard Slackware64 13.0 [00:27] vah [00:27] same here [00:27] you did alsaconf and worked? [00:27] yep [00:27] what kind of laptop do you have? [00:28] oh that's odd. I never noticed that /etc/asound.conf is a symlink to /etc/bluetooth/asound.conf [00:28] compaq 610 [00:28] why on earth? [00:29] wtf? [00:29] is a c2d with 3gb ram, intel x3100 graphics [00:29] 250gb hd [00:30] I've got the x3100 too [00:30] http://codepad.org/1MdN5fI9 [00:31] there's my sound modules I've got loaded [00:31] Hey guys i am trying to dl slackware 13.0 and having some issues anybody tell me what I need to do? [00:31] so i woke up this morning, and there was a parking cone in my room. [00:31] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:31] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [00:31] adrenaline: maybe if you told us what the problem is [00:31] I see files that say iso but are like 344k [00:31] pff i have a parking cone in my room do you wanna se a pic? [00:31] see* [00:31] Or if I go to an iso folder it is empty [00:31] acidtripper: no listen to this song first... [00:31] adrenaline, not all mirrors host isos (torrent is best for all anyways) [00:31] some say iso.txt [00:31] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:31] :P [00:32] When I was rooming with a bunch of people we had a parking cone dressed as a christmas tree one year [00:32] mancha, what do they mirror if they don't mirror iso's [00:32] deco :( [00:32] no sound here :( [00:32] sucker! lol [00:32] godling, then did each and every one of you have your way with the christmas tree? [00:33] acidtripper: do you have all those modules loaded? [00:33] adrenaline, they mirror the package and source trees [00:33] mancha, can you tell me where I can get the torrent? [00:33] I don't see any torrents on the mirrors [00:34] slackware.com [00:34] :) [00:34] FriedBob (n=FriedBob@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:34] slackware.com (get slack) [00:34] acidtripper: I don't have any special options set for my sound chip in /etc/modprobe.d/ [00:34] godling: how i see loaded modules [00:34] john_dee (n=id@93-81-69-10.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [00:34] I found it thank you [00:34] you said you had all the modules loaded, acidtripper [00:35] :P [00:35] welcome [00:35] lsmod|grep snd [00:35] yes [00:35] loaded [00:36] all [00:37] acidtripper: what desktop enviromen or wm are you using ? [00:37] and all the volume levels are up? [00:37] maybe he's using a sound server? [00:37] I dunno [00:37] environment* [00:38] kde [00:38] but is not a desktop problem, [00:39] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:39] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:40] kde said the audio dispositive doesnt work [00:40] acidtripper: are you using aRts? [00:40] Xine [00:40] xine is a player. arts is the sound daemon [00:40] Xine is a codec [00:40] alison [00:41] according to wikipedia kde doesn't use arts anymore [00:41] I know xine has codecs - but it's not a sound daemon [00:41] godling: kde 4 doesn't anymore [00:41] i know that [00:41] and i knew arts is not used anymore, now you select motor from kde preferences [00:41] gstreamer or xine [00:42] the only ones I have listed are artsd or alsa or enlighten, xine is only listed for players [00:42] alison just shut up [00:42] hah, esd [00:42] what a pile of crap [00:43] acidtripper: don't be a dick [00:43] :P [00:43] there again - gstreamer and xine are not part of the sound architecture [00:43] a huge one [00:43] they are streamers and players [00:43] codecs man codecs [00:43] they both need a device to send it to [00:43] acidtripper: if people are trying to help you, you don't tell them to shut up. it's rude. [00:43] codecs are not drivers [00:43] i was bothering, but the problem is not in discussing if xine is codec streamer or whatever [00:43] shut up [00:44] drivers are correctly loaded [00:44] alison [00:44] and there are modules not drivers [00:44] hey acidripper, shut the fuck up [00:44] acidtripper: the question was which drivers are you using and what sound system daemons are you using - not which streamers/codecs you were using [00:44] mancha shh [00:44] (does it feel good?) [00:44] cool mancha [00:45] alison xine is a sound daemon [00:45] first I've heard of xine being a sound server since I've been using linux [00:45] not server [00:45] well, that's what the questions were asking you [00:45] nice the torrent is coming fast [00:45] alsa is server, but in order to decodificate some files xine or gstreamer is nedded [00:46] needed* [00:46] acidtripper: again - there is a difference between a streamer and a daemon [00:46] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xine [00:46] question has anybody installed slackware in Suns Virtual box? I didn't have much luck with 12.2 has anybody had good luck with 13.0? [00:46] we are not discussing that alison [00:46] the idea is to make my sound work [00:47] not discuss terminology [00:47] adrenaline: 12.2 worked for me [00:47] yes - and the questions were asking you was what sound servers you were using - we were trying to help you get sound. [00:47] acidtripper: I have had 12.{0,1,2} running in virtualbox [00:47] de-what? [00:47] adrenaline, yeah torrents are very speedy if the swarm is big...plus it grows more efficient with bigger swarm [00:47] decodificate isn't a word. [00:47] acidtripper is making up words [00:48] well, i dont know the exact word [00:48] ViN86 (n=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-THREE-FORTY-SEVEN.MIT.EDU) left irc: "Leaving" [00:48] i only wanna hear some music in this bad and stressing day [00:48] turn on the radio [00:48] Nice Deco. Mine works but kills the box every now and then with no logs It happened on an Ubuntu host and a MAC host. [00:48] :P [00:48] lot of problems with my girl :S [00:48] understandable [00:48] she's probably sick of you too [00:48] :P [00:48] :( [00:48] lol!! [00:49] acidtripper: can you hear her ? [00:49] yes i can [00:49] use more duct tape [00:49] lol [00:49] i have sound working on arch, but i wanna make it work here [00:49] i remembered i had to compile new alsa drivers [00:49] deco: everytime you laugh at something I say it makes me cry a little on the inside. [00:49] s/say/type/ [00:49] .21a [00:50] godling: why is that.... [00:50] :S [00:50] acidtripper: my sound was working "out of the box" with Slackware64. [00:50] :S [00:50] I had to finagle it with Arch [00:50] in arch worked okey on me [00:50] maybe i ahve to update drivers [00:51] to build a package is necessary yes or yes a slackbuild? [00:51] i mean only doing makepkg on a directory doesnt package that directory? [00:51] godling: fine don't answer.... [00:51] :? [00:51] :/ [00:52] ? [00:52] yes, but there's steps to preparing a directory before making a package [00:52] thanks alison [00:52] stickyboy (n=hugo@41.204.190.12) joined ##slackware. [00:52] deco: It's because you don't know how to use an ellipsis. [00:53] :P [00:53] maybe cutting back on the purple microdot will help? [00:53] chopp: who? [00:53] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:53] acidchild [00:53] oh [00:54] I was going to say. [00:54] I haven't done that in over 10 years. [00:54] :P [00:54] oldude67 (n=duh@c-98-212-246-217.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:54] godling: ......... [00:56] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:59] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:00] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.10.69) joined ##slackware. [01:00] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [01:01] from arch guys and hearing some music [01:01] maybe i just have to update alsa [01:01] i thought last time i installed slack 13 (32) i had to update drivers and then worked [01:01] have just* [01:03] godling: ok, good to know and glad you've found a kind of solution (wrt openoffice) [01:04] Camarade_Tux: hey what the .... why are you so early :P [01:04] deco: school! [01:04] Camarade_Tux: :o [01:04] Action: Camarade_Tux went to bed 3:30 hours ago [01:04] here 02.04 [01:04] oldude67 (n=duh@c-98-212-246-217.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:05] Ubuntu EeePC Utils Developer: "I give up...I just can't do it, because Ubuntu sucks." [01:05] ^^ [01:05] :P [01:05] 7am [01:05] pff [01:05] you doesn't work Camarade? [01:05] dont* [01:06] I feel guilty, when I came back home there were three girls, one completely drunk (she wouldn't stand without heavy help), one pretty drunk (she would stand up but not much more) and one not drunk [01:07] u/win 31 [01:07] Camarade_Tux: don't forget me [01:07] I think the last one looked at me in a way that sad she didn't trust me and after I spoke to them a tiny bit, I think she also looked at me like she wanted help =/ [01:07] did you helped her? [01:08] :o [01:08] LSD! [01:08] she was the smallest of the three by far, it was night, the two others were useless, and I didn't help =/ [01:08] lets go tripping :P [01:08] http://www.fewt.com/2009/10/i-give-up.html <- =) [01:08] any kiss? [01:08] acidtripper: basically, no [01:08] :( [01:08] =( [01:08] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.21.188) joined ##slackware. [01:08] acidtripper: wrt help [01:08] Camarade_Tux: is that your blog? [01:09] help with wat Camarade? [01:09] what [01:09] im a bit sleepy at this time :0 [01:09] but the drunkest one said I was maybe the man of her life and wanted to kiss me, I accepted, she came closer to me, and nearly fell (she kissed me on the cheek because she couldn't aim >< ) [01:09] godling: NO! I DO NOT USE UBUNTU! [01:10] acidtripper: help them just get home [01:10] Camarade_Tux: So you're saying you took advantage of a drunk girl. [01:10] You must be proud. [01:10] proud? [01:10] ;P [01:10] kidnapper [01:10] sarcasm, acidtripper [01:10] your people don't have it [01:10] or... i dont know the exact word [01:10] they just have bad soccer teams [01:10] violador, violin, are called here [01:11] bad soccer teams? [01:11] best of the world [01:11] With dieguito armando maradona [01:11] Diego! [01:11] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.156.52) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:11] that blog post makes me believe ubuntu users don't care about the "thing" they're running but as soon as you stop being just an user (either because you had a bug or because you need a new functionnality...) [01:12] what distro r u usinga camarade? [01:12] ..... [01:12] godling! [01:12] godling: bah, never, I just accepted because she said kiss which means basically nothing (not with the tongue), and wouldn't have tried more, *never* [01:12] acidtripper: slackware? ;-) [01:13] (if it made her happier even for a second) [01:13] I was joking. [01:13] Man, it is too easy to push buttons here. [01:13] godling: language thing.... [01:13] godling: /etc/rc.d/rc.humord start [01:13] apparently [01:13] error: come back when I got more sleep [01:13] :P [01:13] hearing music there? [01:13] Camarade_Tux: Did you at least check her ID? [01:14] oh wait, you're in .fr [01:14] godling: I'm 21, not 40 ^^ , they were my age [01:14] Camarade_Tux: 21 :o , me too! [01:14] godling: YEAH! I don't have to fear some police getting me for that >< [01:14] deco: we should date :D [01:14] children [01:14] 19 here :) but with lot of sex :P [01:14] on another note, sounds like O/T to me [01:14] acidtripper: sex with yourself doesn't count [01:15] Camarade_Tux: well , you left the keys under the mat right ? [01:15] mm not with my self, maybe if you see a photo of mine [01:15] deco: he, sure ;-) [01:15] you'll understand :P [01:15] lol [01:15] alisonken1noc: :) [01:15] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:16] Anyone know if there is a tool/method or whatever so that when I copy a bunch of things to the same location (via Dolphin/Konqourer) it queues them up into one copy rather than does several at once? [01:16] what? [01:17] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [01:17] serial copy rather than parallel copy [01:17] I noticed when I boot I have about 40 to 50 dead screen sessions. I come to find out one of my daemons is doing it, unsure what. [01:17] does it open up lots of little dialogs at once? [01:17] yeah.. Like when I copy music to my MP3 player type thing it really lags trying to copy a bunch of folders at once rather than queuing them up for a single copy [01:17] godling: yes [01:17] or at least one. [01:17] that's lame Wescotte [01:18] that's like, Windows Explorer behavior [01:18] godling: like I select a folder copy/paste then do another copy/paste.. after you get like 5-6 going it's annoying..plus keeping track of a bunch of windows [01:18] Nick change: fatalnix -> fatalnix1995 [01:18] he wants mac os x behaviour [01:18] fatalnix: I don't suppose there's an /etc/rc.d/rc.startscreenalot ? [01:18] fatalnix: as in ~/.screen stuff? [01:18] ;P [01:18] yeah Wescotte, I dig [01:18] better beahiviour [01:18] why c/p and not drag/drop between folders? [01:18] I'd only like it to group together if it's going to the same destination [01:19] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [01:19] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [01:19] sup ken [01:19] another fun night at the office [01:19] alisonken1home: because there lots of sub folders so I have to navigate around.. unless I could add to a queue and start when I wanted.. that'd work too [01:19] if you want a *single* copy, you'd probably have to use dd which you don't want to... [01:19] alisonken1noc: how many hours left? [01:19] last night was doing server moves from the cage we lost to our new cage, and the a/c in the new cage is starting to get warm [01:20] Camarade_Tux: just started - so be here till 6am [01:20] alisonken1noc: I think we'll go to bed around the same time :P [01:20] :) [01:20] brb, shower^Wbath [01:20] fatalnix1995: uhm no daemon I know of actually uses screen. so whatever it is .. it's probably your own user doing it. [01:20] well, I usually don't get to be til 9-10am [01:20] jhw (n=jhw@p548F5D36.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [01:20] (and since I don't have much time, breakfast in the bath tub) [01:21] ew [01:21] alisonken1noc: hmmm, I plan to go back to bed in about 5 hours :D [01:21] Camarade_Tux: :D [01:22] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) left irc: "out" [01:23] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65215a1.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [01:24] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:27] idk, it does it on bootup [01:28] trace it [01:28] I made a lot of rc scripts I dont use unexecutable and rebooted and it stopped [01:28] yeah I'll try to [01:28] was one of them rc.local? :P [01:29] ... [01:29] no [01:29] fatalnix1995: are these dead screen sessions for your user, or root or? [01:30] Axius (n=fd@92.82.93.60) joined ##slackware. [01:30] crap you know I didn't check that when I looked at them [01:30] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:30] heh [01:30] fatalnix1995: and I asume you have done something like "grep screen /etc/rc.d/*" right? [01:30] ill recreate it sometime in the near future [01:31] no [01:31] frankjones (n=mike@203.88.90.202) joined ##slackware. [01:31] screen -r [01:31] good night [01:31] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:31] oh [01:31] sorry, I'm about to pass out lol [01:32] hi, i'm compiling something and it wants to know KERNEL_DIR=<> i installed slack 13.. which directory should i specify ? [01:32] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [01:32] yeah itheeds no result, so if it were that it'd be really weird. [01:33] I'll be around [01:34] stupid laptop has no battery [01:34] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) joined ##slackware. [01:35] should i use /usr/src/linux to specify ? [01:36] fatalnix1995 (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:37] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:37] aaaah, late ! [01:37] Camarade_Tux: go to sleep [01:38] s/sleep/school/ [01:43] frankjones: use /usr/src/linux-version like mines /usr/src/linux-2.6.29.6 or just /usr/src/linux if that is a symlink to the correct kernel version. [01:44] Rat409 thanks I did... it then installed some kernel modules.. i am rebooting to see if they load automatically... [01:44] Camarade_Tux: s/school/sleep/ [01:44] :P [01:45] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:48] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-98-249-3-190.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[02:34] hi guys how do i get a list of packages installed on my system [02:34] brianz (n=brian@222.65.101.207) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:34] ls /var/log/packages [02:35] U2: good question [02:35] might have to ask your isp [02:35] don't want to ask them.... [02:35] cheers alisonken1 [02:35] yo all [02:36] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:36] well, if you can't ping the pirate bay server, and it won't connect, then either a) their server is down or b) the route to their server is borked or c) your isp is blocking them [02:37] although, if your isp was blocking I would think it would redirect to a "that site is blocked" message [02:37] lol pirate bay trackers have been down for months now [02:38] didn't they close that down, swedish or so police? [02:38] their site was also part of a dcma takedown [02:38] dmca [02:38] duh [02:38] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:39] ymca? [02:39] nah they got purchased by a legit firm [02:39] yep - but it was still in litigation [02:42] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:42] heret|c (n=heretic@c-68-32-70-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:43] oh man, cyberbunker is freaking awesome [02:43] quick, someone give me five million dollars so I can buy it [02:44] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [02:44] godling: looks like no takers for handing over five million. :P [02:46] freaking cheapskates [02:46] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-155-7.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:46] aigon (n=rm@92.82.93.60) joined ##slackware. [02:46] i can hook you up with a nigerian banker for a $4,000 finders fee [02:46] pictures of me yaking custard are now on facebook [02:47] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [02:48] doing what to custard? [02:48] yakking - barfing - blowing chunks [02:48] or in modelspeak "disgorging" [02:48] oh, you mean hurl? [02:48] horking [02:49] that too [02:49] spewing [02:49] lol [02:50] ralphing....:D [02:51] i skulled 1L of custard in a competition, on a full stomach while drunk [02:51] not such a great idea. [02:51] lmao no doubt [02:51] I knew a bunch of guys who decided to go down to the dairy and grab ice cream after drinking a shit-ton of beer [02:51] straight back to drinking afterward [02:51] not bright [02:51] winner a big dude,spook? [02:52] MLanden: no, i won. [02:52] 30 seconds later i yakked. [02:52] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:52] so that should have disqualified you [02:52] what kind of rules do you Aussies play by? [02:52] :P [02:53] what'd you win? [02:53] i dont know, i was pretty far gone [02:53] i'll ask the rest of my table [02:53] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [02:54] oldude67 (n=duh@c-98-212-246-217.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:54] hey will slack run with 128 meg of ram with xfce? [02:54] yeah most likely [02:55] but 128 is still very low.... [02:55] you'll need swap space [02:55] if you are going to use a mozilla browser [02:55] yup,will presents some limits [02:56] ya i figured i will need swap space, i got 2 gigs of ram coming but wont be here for a week..:9 [02:56] :( [02:57] will use xfce till it gets here, then will probably stick with kde [02:57] what system do you have? which can support 2 Giga of RAM, but is currently running on 128 MB?!?!?! [02:57] oldude67: can always use an older version of slackware, I ran it just fine on an i486 12M of ram way back when, not sure how far back xfce goes though [02:57] 128mb is quite bad....expect poor performance [02:58] U2, will probably not be using firefox thats for sure.. [02:58] hmm [02:58] and my 2gig sempron. [02:59] 128 MB ram on 2 GHz Sepmron....very cool :D [02:59] im waiting for the ram to come in, may just hold of installing it till it gets here. [03:00] already ordered and paid for.. [03:01] hey i didnt think i had any , and just found it and it booted the computer up with dsl on it...lol [03:02] aigon (n=rm@92.82.93.60) left irc: Client Quit [03:02] http://www.downornot.com/piratebay.org [03:02] and the oldest version of slack i have on hands is a copy of like slack 7 [03:02] U2: piracy isnt something that is approved of here. [03:02] ok [03:02] my apologies... [03:02] dotfiles.org's been down for last couples months too [03:02] its okay. now you know :) [03:03] i'll be careful [03:03] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:03] oldude67 (n=duh@c-98-212-246-217.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:04] Nick change: phoenix^ -> fire|bird [03:05] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-69-106.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:05] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-69-106.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [03:07] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:08] take care guys... [03:08] bye spook [03:08] U2 (n=chatzill@203.99.172.101) left ##slackware. [03:10] which pypanel [03:11] whoops wrong chat :( [03:11] linXea (n=e@nomad-c4190-bibliotek3.data.slu.se) joined ##slackware. [03:12] hey Rat409 [03:13] hey fire|bird [03:13] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-186.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:14] Ah (i=c1db397d@gateway/web/freenode/x-cpqusqihutovecov) joined ##slackware. [03:14] hi [03:14] hi [03:15] does anybody know if boot block size was changed between v12 and v13? [03:15] linXea (n=e@nomad-c4190-bibliotek3.data.slu.se) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:15] shouldn't have [03:15] Ah: uh, no. [03:15] hmm, i can boot 12 dvd on, but can't 13 [03:16] the q would be "slackware32 or slackware64?" and "what dvd medium did you use to burn slack13"? [03:16] it's not dvd issue, cause it boots on laptop fine [03:16] dvd=r [03:16] dvd+r [03:17] 32bit dell optiplex 755 workstations [03:17] some dvd players have a problem with dvd+r [03:17] did you burn slackware13 32-bit or 64-bit? [03:18] 32bit [03:18] must be dvd player fault [03:18] then if boot load size in isolinux was left the same [03:19] try burning to dvd-r media [03:19] dvd+r can be quite troublesome [03:19] zErOaCid (i=gnu@71.94.1.213) joined ##slackware. [03:19] have you any link why dvd+r is more troublesome? [03:20] or is that dvd player dependant only? [03:20] depends on the player [03:22] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-147-235-159.range86-147.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [03:22] ok, thanks [03:23] i'll google if there are any problems with this PLDS DH-16A6S and dvd+r [03:24] slackie (n=x@87-196-204-98.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [03:28] night everyone,ya'll be well [03:28] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [03:29] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-61-0-141.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:30] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:33] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:37] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:39] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: "Leaving." 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[04:33] \o/ [04:33] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [04:35] <3 Zordrak [04:36] toytoy (n=dindin@112.202.100.185) joined ##slackware. [04:37] yes [04:38] Action: Zordrak had dog flu [04:38] or sheep flu [04:38] or something [04:40] ferdna (n=ferdna@24.92.112.49) left irc: Client Quit [04:47] Zordrak: did you visit new zealand and go native or something? [04:49] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:51] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: "leaving" [04:51] spook: that cesspit? hell no [04:52] its not too bad. [04:52] very beautiful country [04:57] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:57] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [04:59] yeah.. if you like south central L.A. [05:02] New Zealand is like our Mexico :P [05:06] oldude67 (n=duh@c-98-212-246-217.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:07] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [05:07] oldude67 (n=duh@c-98-212-246-217.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [05:11] NZ has good skiing [05:11] or snowboarding, as a prefer. [05:12] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:18] s/as a/as i/ [05:27] wertik_rus (n=wertik@69.172.130.217) joined ##slackware. [05:44] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:50] hmm [05:50] is there a way to tell grub to boot from slackware dvd [05:50] Ah: probably. typically you use the bios [05:52] i know, but typically does not work [05:52] v12 is also on dvd=r [05:52] v12 is also on dvd+r [05:52] coffee is FREAKING AWESOME!! [05:52] and it does boot [05:53] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [06:00] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [06:04] aigon (n=rm@92.82.80.123) joined ##slackware. [06:06] aigon (n=rm@92.82.80.123) left irc: Client Quit [06:09] slackie (n=x@87-196-204-98.net.novis.pt) left irc: "Papaver Somniferum" [06:09] okay.... so my mates HDD borked and I said I'd take a look.... sure enough it's knackered... so he sends off for a replacement, meanwhile I backup all his files.... all well and good.... we get the new hdd and I format it and clone his original drive, set it bootable and think, I'll be out of here in time for the latest House MD..... [06:10] ..... turns out the bios doesn't support sata disks [06:10] .... turns out I need to install ahci controller software manually [06:10] .... turns out I need to do that on an XP machine [06:11] .... turns out THAT needs to be on exactly the same intel chipset as the one I'm trying to rescue..... [06:11] sounds about right [06:12] and I agree .... coffee is good [06:12] what an absolute crock though.... [06:13] Action: theblackbox probably won't re-endorse HP after this epic blunder [06:13] why would you in the first place? [06:13] normally why you replace it with a similiar drive as the orginal [06:14] juice, the original was sata.... go figure [06:14] so then what's the issue? [06:14] if it's i nthe orginal box? [06:15] Zordrak, I got a high-end one, which 'aint too bad for the price and to run into the ground.... HIS is a compaq..... 'nuff said [06:15] the only problem I would see is having ahci enabled in bios trying to install xp [06:15] you would have to enable ahci after xp is installed [06:16] since xp out of the box doesn't support ahci to my knowledge [06:16] Axius (n=fd@92.84.16.177) joined ##slackware. [06:19] well my box doesn't support ahci out of the box.... which is odd [06:21] sorry, guys.... know it's off topic but thought you might appreciate my epic fail [06:26] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [06:27] does it have enhanced mode? [06:27] under the drives [06:27] AHCI support is an OS problem not the BIOS [06:28] some intel boards have like a compatibility/legacy/enhanced setting for drive support [06:28] Most BIOS can present the interfaces as either AHCI or as above legacy [06:30] it's probably the worst bios ever made, can't change anything about the hardware that is worthwhile, just enable/disable a few simple things like usb legacy [06:31] can i run 32-bit firefox on slackware 64-bit ? [06:32] gyroscope, If you make your system multilib, it should work. [06:33] where is multilib or how can i check it ? [06:34] gyroscope, http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib [06:36] very complicated but i'll read it, thanks adamk_ [06:37] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-0-86.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) left ##slackware. [06:37] gyroscope: very easy. [06:38] sshfs FTW! [06:38] vinegaroon (n=sam@203.184.32.196) joined ##slackware. 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[06:48] hi, I've just installed slackware 13.0 from the first cd (the only one I downloaded) and I see that I don't have Xorg install [06:48] CountryPumpkin (n=foo@4.238.255.100) joined ##slackware. [06:48] Ilie: thats one disk 2 [06:48] how/from where can I install it ? thanks in advance [06:49] Ilie: setup slackpkg, and just "slackpkg install x" [06:49] heh) in slackware 13.0 not exists xorg.conf? [06:49] slackubuntu (n=googler@117.96.18.194) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [06:49] wertik_rus: doesnt need it in a lot of cases. it auto detects [06:49] thanks for the tips spook , I'll try that now [06:49] aaa auto ) this is good [06:49] thx [06:50] I doesn't "autodetects" my other monitors, so I can't have dual monitors under linux, It used to word on 12.x series [06:50] wertik_rus (n=wertik@69.172.130.217) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [06:50] blak_ (n=chatzill@adtm80.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:51] wertik_rus (n=wertik@69.172.130.217) joined ##slackware. [06:51] it can. but its complicated. usually easier to use xorg.conf to define it [06:52] blak_ (n=chatzill@adtm80.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left ##slackware. [06:55] fosforo_ (n=fosforo@187.15.37.51) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:56] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: "Leaving." [06:56] thanks for the tips spook , I've started the install (it now downloads the packages) [06:56] fosforo_ (n=fosforo@187.15.16.211) joined ##slackware. [06:57] Yeah, seriously, there is no reason you can't have dual monitors on Slackware 13.0. [06:57] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [06:57] You can either enable them dynamically via xrandr or create an xorg.conf file. There's no rule saying that xorg.conf can't be used :-) [06:57] so I guess I have to create and modify an .xorg config file [06:58] 'Xorg -configure' can be used to create one. [07:02] wertik_rus (n=wertik@69.172.130.217) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:03] Action: Zordrak has just been given the OK to buy 10 1U twin opteron IBM xSeries servers! [07:03] \o/ [07:04] (2nd hand - £50 apiece!!) [07:09] good price [07:09] hell yeah [07:10] each stick of ram (512) for them costs about that on eBay [07:10] heret|c (n=heretic@c-68-32-70-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:10] mmark (n=root@fatbear.ichpw.zabrze.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:10] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:10] mmark kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [07:11] LOL [07:11] O_o [07:11] nat that i dont agree.. but when did that go in? [07:11] Zordrak: years ago. [07:11] new functionality! woot! [07:12] spook: theres been rooters in here in the last couple of months... [07:12] Zordrak: oh, must have come back. [07:12] Zordrak, link to the auction? [07:12] just change identd [07:12] Axius (n=fd@92.84.16.177) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:12] edman007: not auction.. incest [07:13] Ah: identd or inetd? [07:13] i know a guy who knows a guy :) [07:13] ...incest? [07:13] ident [07:13] Zordrak, but i want 1U servers [07:13] edman007: dont we all :) [07:13] spook: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ident [07:13] XGizzmo_: trick question :) [07:13] then i can sell them to you with a high mark up [07:13] Ah: ... i know what ident is. [07:14] aye.. if i could be arsed.. we'd buy another 10 for sell off [07:16] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@79.51.68.162) joined ##slackware. [07:16] gaz-_ (n=gaz@xvm-12-22.ghst.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:17] still can't find the root cause of the problem [07:17] bkac [07:18] Ah: what problem? [07:18] same [07:18] does not boot no matter [07:19] tooly (n=tooly@f053076041.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [07:20] linXea (n=e@nomad-c4190-bibliotek3.data.slu.se) joined ##slackware. [07:20] linXea (n=e@nomad-c4190-bibliotek3.data.slu.se) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [07:22] what does emulated boot mena? [07:22] *mean [07:25] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.10.69) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [07:27] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@200.140.247.98) joined ##slackware. [07:28] sigh [07:28] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [07:29] haw many servers do you reckon you can safely stack on each other? [07:30] (no rack-- just sat on each other) [07:30] Zordrak: use civil engineering [07:30] O_o [07:30] pick an angle you want it to tip over at, solve for the height given width and depth [07:31] are you drunk again? [07:31] no i'm completely sober and serious [07:31] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.10.69) joined ##slackware. [07:31] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl10-165-240.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:32] then youre gonna have to rewind and playback at 33rpm [07:32] 45 just seemed garbled [07:32] what [07:33] juice (i=juice@ice-cold.net) left irc: "later" [07:33] yep [07:33] CountryPumpkin (n=foo@4.238.255.100) left irc: [07:33] put it in a corner, then stack as high as you want [07:33] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:33] it? [07:33] the pile of servers [07:34] weight will surely become an issue soon enough [07:34] stack the corner as high as you want [07:34] ah yes true i didnt factor that in [07:34] mhm, i should change my name :D [07:34] make a pyramid of servers [07:35] or a trapazoid [07:35] Nick change: Ah -> AlHom [07:35] fuck it.. why not just get out a welding torch and make a server buckyball [07:35] you'd need 60 servers [07:35] Nick change: AlHom -> AlH [07:36] Nick change: AlH -> AlHom [07:36] nah.. each server represents a node [07:36] err [07:36] each *corner* [07:36] sigh [07:36] jhw (n=jhw@p548F5D36.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [07:36] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@200.140.247.98) left irc: [07:37] Ilie (i=0@78.97.124.40) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:37] oo.. ebay: 24U cabinet.. £0.99 -- pickup only.. 20 miles away [07:40] nice [07:40] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:41] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. 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[07:45] hahah [07:45] they'll be getting Moonwalker next year :) [07:45] csiro came up with 802.11, show some respect [07:46] Action: winter is installing gnome [07:46] how do I disable all visual bells and whistles in kde 4,2 ? [07:46] I recent version there was some kind of a wizard to do that .... [07:46] Action: spook disowns winter [07:47] paul424: settings-> notifications [07:47] because of lack of kde4 in backports [07:48] what? [07:48] no kde4 in debians backports [07:48] oh [07:48] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:48] spook: for sure you are not english speaker native [07:48] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:48] IceW (n=old-time@189.56.21.197) joined ##slackware. [07:49] paul424: epic fail. [07:50] by bells and whistles I mean all the graphics effects that slows down the kde session [07:50] paul424: if you mean effects, system settings->desktop fist tab [07:50] lol [07:50] s/fist/first [07:50] Nick change: init[0] -> init[5] [07:50] Action: Zordrak batters init[5] into init[-1] [07:51] :D,what does runlevel -1 do ! [07:53] break [07:54] spook: just thought.. i could put them on their sides and duct-tape them intho a block :) [07:54] Zordrak: depends on airflow [07:57] in through the front out through the back [07:57] two dedicated Daikin air con units in the basement server room [07:57] sounds really... unprofessional and ugly [07:57] heh [07:58] i just have no budget for a rack.. so its whatever i can get hold of [07:58] i dont know yet whether these servers will come with rails.. [07:58] but im thinking not [07:58] so thatd cost even more [07:58] plastic surgery is definately expensive. [07:58] Action: spook waits for Zordrak to get the joke [07:59] dont hold your breath... [07:59] heret|c (n=heretic@c-68-32-70-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:59] the issue with stacking servers is thermal conduction [07:59] you have no budget for a rack. [07:59] heh [07:59] ok [07:59] ananke: *nod* [08:00] even when they'e close together in a rack, you get a sliver of air space between. with dense 1U servers you often see that servers on top are much hotter than the ones on the bottom [08:00] aye... ive dealt with similar with hard disks [08:00] and one fan pushing air between can do 10degC worth of difference [08:01] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:02] speaking of rails, new dell rails for the 11th generation servers are awesome. i thought their previous rapid rails were easy to install, these are even easier [08:02] ananke: are they free? [08:02] THAT would be awesome [08:02] free? of course not [08:03] way to spoil the dream [08:03] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.146.172) joined ##slackware. [08:03] last time i checked, no hardware was free. [08:03] hi there [08:03] hi ananke [08:03] ananke: wow.. you havent been checking hard enough [08:04] just gotta be in the right place at the right time [08:04] Zordrak: i'm not talking about dumpster diving hardware. that doesn't count as 'free' [08:04] im talking about when its cheaper for someone to give something away than propely dispose of it [08:04] *properly [08:04] aigon (n=rm@92.82.78.166) joined ##slackware. [08:04] i've picked up a bunch of stuff that way [08:05] Zordrak: that's completely different than wanting rails for the latest server generation [08:05] ananke: seriously.. you gotta work on your sense of humour [08:05] Zordrak: has it occured to you, that perhaps, just maybe, your sense of humor is lousy? [08:05] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [08:06] everything isnt always literal and said with straight-faced intent [08:06] ananke: hes british. what do you expect? [08:06] spook: s/british/english/ [08:06] spook: good point, although dead pan humor is usually much better [08:06] he's british? Most british are cooler than that [08:06] hoho` (n=hooh@190.166.118.104) left irc: "Leaving" [08:07] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:07] vinegaroon (n=sam@203.184.32.196) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:08] vinegaroon (n=sam@203.184.32.196) joined ##slackware. [08:09] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-251-209.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:15] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [08:16] btw, dell will have a cpu-dense 2U box coming out late this year, maybe early next [08:16] guys, important safety tip: dont cross the streams. why? it would be bad. [08:16] greetings from northern Canada:) [08:16] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:18] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@h80ad23a4.async.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [08:19] sporten29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [08:20] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]" [08:22] spook, ghostbusters ? [08:22] lol [08:24] morning everyone [08:24] evening. [08:24] guten morgen [08:24] morning [08:26] gnubien (n=e@58.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:26] paul424 (i=0@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [08:26] unbelievable, my last cigg and i lit i backwards [08:27] smoke it unfiltered [08:27] uhg [08:27] alisonken1home: still at work? =) [08:27] ok I use the console irc client, seems that after upgrading to slackqware 13 the nvidida kernel module does notwork what can be the cause ... [08:28] should I simply rerun the instalation script which comes with nvidida drivers ? [08:28] paul424: you have to make a new one [08:28] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.38.146) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:28] did you download the nvidia installer from nvidia.com and install it, then run the setup script? [08:29] haldir: yes he did [08:29] then he upgraded the kernel and expected the same module to work [08:29] allend (n=allend@CPE-60-230-182-220.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [08:29] ok, sorry, don't mind me [08:31] aigon (n=rm@92.82.78.166) left irc: Client Quit [08:32] although, the instructions would still be the saem [08:32] ohh hmm so it compiles the drivers each time for each kernel [08:32] same [08:32] so should I rerun the script or there are some remove job to do first ....... [08:32] rerun [08:33] it will remove the old module [08:33] ok thanks [08:33] paul424 (i=0@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "[BX] Bob Barker uses BitchX. Have your BitchX spayed or neutered." [08:34] AEnima15771 (n=clbarnob@h80ad23a4.async.vt.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:35] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [08:36] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [08:38] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [08:39] greetings [08:41] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [08:41] frankjones (n=mike@203.88.90.202) joined ##slackware. [08:42] a problem. I know its a php question. On my debian box I'll run imagecacher. irssi that uploads pictures to a web page. but how in slackware can I get it to read username and password from another file? it works in debian but not on slack :( so I have to put the username and password in the file.. and that is chmod 777 to work. so it 's not safe [08:42] CitizenLane (n=lane@c-69-243-237-89.hsd1.al.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:42] I have include ("/home/user/.mysql.php"); but no go :( [08:42] hi i used slackware 13 as a router and receive ksoftirqd/0 at 100% no iptables commands were applied.. could anyone shed light on why the interupt is consuming an entire proc and causing packet forwarding delays ? [08:43] ok. I found the error myself [08:45] FriedBob_ (n=FriedBob@c-98-233-71-205.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:46] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:46] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [08:48] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:50] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [08:58] Kowa: eh? i'm not even sure I (or anyone) even understood what you were trying to do. [09:00] Kowa: i am going to take a stab and suggest 'suphp'. i think that's what you might be looking for. it's on SBo. [09:00] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-251-209.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:01] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-251-209.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:01] agentc0re: he found the error himself :p :) [09:02] Action: The-Croupier likes it when some people see the light AFTER they have posted the question in the channel... still amazed... [09:02] anyone know whats up with s13 Linux 2.6.29.6 SMP , using this as a router and my ksoftirqd/0 is 100% [09:02] frankjones: real descriptive there. [09:03] The-Croupier: i know. i am still entitled to my suggestions though. :P [09:03] spook: what?! you didnt get that?! [09:03] i got it.. [09:03] frankjones: broken cards? [09:04] yeah maybee.. [09:04] agentc0re: by no means.... [09:04] intel pro... [09:04] The-Croupier: if you search for my user on LQ, most, if not all my slackware questions i answered myself too... kind of funny imo. [09:04] maybee driver issue.. maybee it needs to not interupt on each packet but buffer more packts and then pass them for processing ? [09:04] agentc0re: lol [09:05] w [09:05] agentc0re: you did that after asking in the channel as well lol [09:05] doh, wrong term [09:06] spook what could i use to throw 50Mb of traffic at the router so I don't have to put it into production to test this ? [09:06] sanitarium (n=heretic@c-68-32-70-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:06] frankjones: theres a traffic generator in the kernel [09:07] spook hmm interesting [09:07] _bruno_ (n=bruno@189-47-251-209.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:09] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [09:10] _bruno__ (n=bruno@189-47-251-209.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:10] spook ur refering to pktgen ? [09:11] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [09:11] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [09:11] frankjones: i dont know what its called, i just know what you're looking for exists. [09:11] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-251-209.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:11] Nick change: _bruno__ -> _bruno [09:15] one day I should mail RMS and write "hey, there's a new bsd/linux distribution in town which is completely free [ besides xv which has been here for ever ], you might want to include it in your "free" distribution list, it's called slackware." =) [09:17] theres a bunch of other stuff in slackware besides xv which isnt free, i'm pretty sure [09:19] well, at least "some" things, not sure about a "bunch" of things [09:19] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:19] stuff like libmad might make RMS upset [09:19] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:19] ilj_ (n=ilj@195.88.15.2) joined ##slackware. [09:21] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [09:22] The transmission-deamon keeps on remebering the first torrents. I don't know why, if i delete one from the web-gui the next restart the torrent is still there... [09:26] libmad, mplayer now maybe (although it has the good configure switches), maybe xine [09:26] thrice`: Camarade_Tux , who are these people that are going to get mad? and why exactly..didnt get it much [09:28] _bruno_ (n=bruno@189-47-251-209.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:28] richard stallman [09:29] The-Croupier: if you take a look at fsf-approved or nearly approved distributions, you won't see slackware but you will see other distributions with more non-free components/packages [09:29] I thought that list only had 3-4 distros on it [09:29] Camarade_Tux: pat doesnt really care, and nor do most slackware users [09:29] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-428041.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:29] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:30] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.76.158) joined ##slackware. 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[09:38] Camarade_Tux: good luck with that. don't forget to check how much ram it takes. to get the most of it, so to say :p [09:39] _maxiwll_AR (n=_maxiwll@201.90.140.3) joined ##slackware. [09:41] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) joined ##slackware. [09:41] do dot matric printers still exist? o.O [09:41] agentc0re, I found out. I didnt have the open_short_tag on. so I have to change the short tag ftl [09:41] our webdev used them once [09:41] john_dee: well, I've been told it used far less ram than it used to [09:41] major fail ensued [09:41] and it's pretty fast now [09:42] (not that I've been told, but I've seen it being fast) [09:43] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-48-11.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:43] sanitarium: yes, I have one at work for printing labels. Still going strong. I will be pissed when it fails. [09:43] Camarade_Tux: last time i tried it was neither fast not modest. then will give it another try too :) [09:43] *nor [09:44] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) joined ##slackware. [09:44] mario (n=mario@hades.slackware-hrvatska.org) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:44] Camarade_Tux: there an open source community festival today near my house..im going with my gf in 20mins [09:44] ;) it was on the radio..and they said there are going to be presentations about ubuntu.. wow i cant wait [09:44] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:45] i got my slackware t-shirt with me at work today ;) [09:45] john_dee: I saw the search and it was instantaneous [09:45] The-Croupier: you might be interested in some link ;) [09:45] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-251-209.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:45] Nick change: _bruno_ -> _bruno [09:45] http://www.fewt.com/2009/10/i-give-up.html [09:45] *that* one \o/ [09:45] Camarade_Tux: but does it still take half a minute to start? [09:45] john_dee: dunno, I'm going to try right now [09:47] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@h80ad23a4.async.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [09:47] Action: Zordrak has his test £50 server [09:47] Checking GPG for Songbird.tar.gz ... FAILED! [09:47] hmmmm, bad [09:47] totally awesome [09:47] some have been uprated to 4GB ram [09:48] Camarade_Tux: good start ;p [09:48] err, sbopkg lost songbird [09:48] ok... time to get ready and f.off from work.. a festival to attend.. [09:48] oh, it's the slackbuild.. [09:48] its been a priviledge ... as always [09:48] seeyou guys very soon... [09:48] have a gooden onen [09:49] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [09:49] hmmmmmm [09:49] can you use the -13.0 installer to install 64-13.0? [09:49] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [09:50] hmmm, I'll have to ssh-forward to get rsync to work through that [09:50] don't think so [09:50] *tunnel [09:50] you'll need a 64-bit kernel [09:50] sure? [09:50] only 95% [09:50] isnt the install process just an installpkg chain? [09:51] im asking cause i PXE booted into 32bit.. but have the 64bit packages on the same nfs server as the 32 [09:51] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [09:51] try it, then :) I'm honestly not 100% sure [09:52] will do [09:52] I thought some aspects wouldn't work [09:52] like some doinst.sh goodies [09:52] but would be curious to know ;) [09:52] seems to be working so far [09:53] would like to know the official position if it seems to complete ok [09:53] ilj_ (n=ilj@195.88.15.2) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:54] mikinanuq (n=mikinanu@71-215-83-66.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [09:55] Wiren (n=aad@80.13.211.241) joined ##slackware. [09:55] Action: winter is typing in gnome-terminal [09:56] sanitarium (n=heretic@c-68-32-70-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:56] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-147-44.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:57] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-147-44.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [09:57] Action: Zordrak pokes alienBOB for an answer on that one [09:57] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:59] I always suck at creating ssh tunnels ='( [10:01] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Success [10:02] Camarade_Tux, just remember to us -X in your ssh string [10:02] eeeGuitarman (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [10:03] I don't want to forward X [10:06] thrice`: all goes tits-up at the config stage [10:06] cos its executing lilo and passwd for example inside the chroot [10:07] Does Slackware 13's lilo or grub support ext4? [10:07] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65218ca.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:07] stickyboy: it comes with lilo and yes [10:07] grub is an optional extra [10:07] dont *think* grub does it [10:07] Hah, good to know. [10:07] I'm so used to using ext4 / these days. [10:08] Well, we'll find out. ;) [10:08] stickyboy: lilo doesnt care about filesystems. its a boot loader [10:08] sahko: Ah, you're right. [10:08] grub for 32bit is patched for ext4 support [10:08] 64bit doesnt exist [10:08] Well, so is grub. It just reads filesystems. [10:09] Lilo remembers where kernels are, x bytes into the block device. [10:09] Zordrak, that's what I figured [10:09] grub will NEVER work on 64-bit [10:09] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [10:10] i think grub2 now does? but not sure.although it didnt at first too. [10:10] I'm pretty sure it's still static 32-bit [10:11] yeah just checked. at least beta3 still is [10:11] I don't think it ever will, just the way it functions with the bios [10:11] doesn't the patched grub work on 64 bit? [10:12] or maybe distros just package 32 bit one [10:12] yeah some people claim it does. but havent tried [10:12] /usr/sbin/grub: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.4, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped [10:12] yep, they package the 32 bit one [10:13] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65218ca.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [10:17] i really wonder why the chose to rewrite grub from scratch and still have issues like that [10:17] is that progress? [10:18] or being able to load backround images matters more? [10:18] :) [10:22] how many jobs for making a 64 kernel on twin dual-core opterons :/ [10:22] im thinking 13 [10:23] same as on single quad-core xeons [10:23] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.12.209) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:24] Good question... [10:24] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [10:24] Hi [10:24] Twin dual core == ... 4 cores? [10:24] yeah [10:24] Hey someone know howto change kdm resolution? couse is different from my kde resolution [10:25] Haha, if you ask Con Kolivas you should use -j4 :) [10:25] ? [10:26] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-176-085.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:27] ienh (n=ienh@ARennes-257-1-99-238.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "leaving" [10:27] uva_ (i=bno@118-160-166-250.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [10:29] acidtripper: kdm resolution is changed in lilo.conf [10:30] i use grub [10:30] alisonken1home: O_o [10:30] Zordrak: o_O [10:30] and framebuffer is set on lilo [10:31] yasu (n=adminroo@tetkyo039020.tkyo.te.ftth2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [10:31] kdm is X app, i dont think is setted by lilo [10:33] i wouldnt think anyone would bother setting the KDM resolution [10:33] uva (i=bno@118.160.166.250) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [10:33] doesnt it pick up whats selected for KDE? [10:34] no [10:34] kdm runs as root [10:36] lotec (n=lotec@static-96-254-222-162.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:36] ajam [10:36] and should be configured as root [10:37] whats this [10:37] hello slackers [10:37] why am i sober [10:37] i mean $sudo systemsettings [10:38] acidtripper: you can either set the virtual desktop to the same size as your actual visible desktop, or set the dpi in kdmrc [10:38] spook: you still three hours behind! [10:38] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [10:38] anyone gotten RTL8187 to work in Manager mode, as an AP? [10:39] allend: :( [10:39] Zordrak: to install Slackware64 you need the 64bit installer [10:39] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:40] spook: s/you/you are/ :) [10:40] stickyboy (n=hugo@41.204.190.12) left irc: "leaving" [10:40] Hermann (n=Hermannn@m90-137-79-237.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. [10:40] alienBOB: seems so [10:41] vinegaroon (n=sam@203.184.32.196) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [10:41] vinegaroon (n=sam@203.184.32.196) joined ##slackware. [10:43] e01_ (n=OSCorp01@213.169.52.50) joined ##slackware. [10:43] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [10:45] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [10:46] kdm resolution is set in xorg [10:46] not by lilo [10:47] ok - then why the different resolutions? [10:47] becouse i had different resolutions [10:47] from what I see, the kdm on my desktop defaults to vga 1024x768 - which is what my framebuffer setting in lilo is [10:47] gonzalo.dnsalias.org/xorg.conf take a look and see how is now [10:47] KDE has a display configuration utility that can adjust the resolution once you login. [10:48] take a look to xorg, that should be only a coincidence [10:48] It does not apply to kdm because, of course, you haven't logged. [10:48] logged in, rather. [10:48] alisonken1home: theres no way i can see kdm would use fb res [10:48] Each time you login, KDE will revert to the last resolution you selected. [10:48] from xorg [10:48] jescis_ (n=jescis@adsl-93-66-190.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:48] kdm does not adjust your resolution at all. It sticks with the resolution Xorg has decided to use. [10:48] well, my resolution is pretty high when I log in, but 1024x768 on kdm [10:48] (either through xorg.conf, or by probing the monitor for its preferred resolution). [10:49] only one resolution have to be set in modes from xorg [10:49] my problem was that i had 3 or 4 resolutions so kdm didn't know whichone choose [10:50] someone there have compiz-fusion file? couse i run compiz okey when i run it from kde but when i run fusion-icon laggy [10:54] ezr (n=foo@97-80-124-147.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [10:55] What do you mean "compiz-fusion file"? [10:58] ouch [10:58] 1.2A while compiling kernel [10:58] thank god its in the office not co-lo [10:59] Hermann (n=Hermannn@m90-137-79-237.cust.tele2.se) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:05] frankjones (n=mike@203.88.90.202) joined ##slackware. [11:06] ok so i found out the interupt issue is solved by using NAPI enabled nic drivers.. so now i need to find out what nic driver i'm using. I did lspci and see my 2 nics .. how do i find out what driver they are using ? [11:07] johndee (n=id@93-81-139-76.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:07] I went to /sys/bus/pci_express but couldn't decifer anything from there.. [11:07] depends if theyre modules or in-kernel [11:07] if modules then lsmod [11:08] cant remember the cammand for if theyre in-kernel [11:08] slipped my mind a month or two ago and havent come across it since [11:09] how do i tell which module is associated with the device [11:10] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:11] x1user (i=1000@host-212-75-8-69.bbccable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:11] hi guys, can you hint me to kernel compile guide suitable for slackware [11:11] x1user: http://blog.tpa.me.uk [11:11] link on the right [11:12] acidchild (n=acid@spy.int.sevenl.net) left irc: "FSCK" [11:12] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.21.188) joined ##slackware. [11:12] and also, i need to set up one box for routing also hints for it [11:12] x1user yeah turn forwarding on in sysctl [11:13] the box for routing and switch for multiple lan, for now i only made it with 1 computer [11:14] john_dee (n=id@93.81.69.10) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [11:14] i'm watching the first evil dead [11:14] Action: Zordrak forgot to make modules_install :p [11:15] Zordrak: heh [11:15] spook how do i tell which driver is associated with a device listed in lscpi? :) [11:15] isnt it something like lsdev [11:15] or looking in /sys [11:16] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-147-44.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:16] i looked in /sys/bus/pci_express but could not decifer anything [11:16] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [11:16] frankjones: lspci -v [11:16] lsdev seems to give DMA IRQ and IO PORT info [11:16] frankjones: that will show the currenly loaded driver for the pci device [11:16] thanks init[5] [11:16] Action: init[5] :) [11:17] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:17] now need to find a driver that shuts up interupt requests cause my ksoftirqd is maxing out one of my cpu's on this router/slack13box [11:17] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [11:18] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-147-44.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [11:18] uh... [11:18] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-147-44.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:19] I guess this technique is call NAPI, something about device polling and shutting up excessive interupts from nics... [11:22] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:23] ezr (n=foo@97-80-124-147.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:24] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65207fb.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [11:24] ienh (n=ienh@ARennes-353-1-51-254.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:24] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:25] WTF [11:26] What the fuck ? :D [11:26] eeeGuitarman (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:26] do all APC UPSes state a 0.3A / 4% load when theres *nothing* plugged in [11:26] Action: init[5] gn slackers :) [11:27] Nick change: init[5] -> gn [11:27] Nick change: gn -> init[5] [11:27] Nick change: init[5] -> init[0] [11:28] acidchil1 (n=ash@li88-140.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [11:28] Nick change: acidchil1 -> acidchild [11:28] id [11:28] hunny i'm homee [11:28] johndee (n=id@93-81-139-76.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [11:29] hahaha http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/10/us-internet-is-slow-expensiveand-the-fcc-has-proof.ars <- the top-right cluster on the first image has 4 or 5 french ISPs :P [11:29] comrad [11:29] why do you care so much about france? you guys have a good relationship in the kremlin with france? [11:30] he's french [11:31] it's a joke, turd [11:31] jeev: definitely :) [11:31] dumb joke [11:31] \o/ bath tub :) [11:31] bbl :) [11:31] i know [11:31] lol [11:32] try going to dubai they filter everything from vonage to porn... UAE sux... [11:32] rtcg (n=rtcg@static-71-164-174-18.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:33] hi folks! [11:34] frankjones, take your own porn [11:34] Has anyone successfully recompiled their openldap-client-2.3.43-i486-1 package from the Slackware 13.0 source files? Mine fails every time even if using the default settings. [11:34] rtcg, haven't tried.. md5 and everything matching? [11:35] I will slap the cd back in and verify. [11:35] x1user (i=1000@host-212-75-8-69.bbccable.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:36] nachox (n=imarambi@190.216.26.210) joined ##slackware. [11:36] Dominian, around? [11:36] v4nelle (n=van@adsl77-146.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:36] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:37] v4nelle (n=van@adsl77-146.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [11:37] nachox: yeah I'm here.. what's up? [11:37] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.99.209) joined ##slackware. [11:37] v4nelle (n=van@adsl77-146.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:37] Dominian, you dont happen to know of a way to prevent certain users from using su, right? [11:37] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.99.209) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:37] nachox: well there's sudoers [11:37] or you can configure /etc/suauth [11:38] certain users in a server are sharing their passwords, i dont want them to su to each other [11:38] so sudoers is a no go [11:38] /etc/suauth will force the users to use their own password for using the "su" command [11:38] which is what I use [11:39] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:42] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [11:42] Well I bought 12.2 and downloaded 13.0, so I bought a slackware shirt. Now I will get all of the ladies [11:43] its a known fact chicks dig slackers [11:43] That's right! hehe [11:43] slackware shirt, ladies will die :P [11:44] Dominian, suauth is what i was looking for: GROUP testes:ALL:deny [11:44] nachox: hehe [11:44] I try and support slackware so I buy every other distro and usually by garb in between [11:44] that should keep them from suing from one another [11:44] idiots [11:45] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]" [11:45] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:46] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-43-100.ip100.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [11:46] ivenkys (n=ivenkys@unaffiliated/ivenkys) joined ##slackware. [11:46] well the md5sums are correct. So... given a new fresh full-install of Slackware 13.0 where the only thing that has been done is a cpan install of Bundle::CPAN and Net::SSLeay .. with only perl modules being updated on a brand new fresh full install, what could make the default openldap-client package from disk fail to compile? [11:46] gents what am i missing: i am unable to write onto a USB FAT32 drive as a normal user , i can write onto it as a ROOT user [11:48] ivenkys: are you a member of plugdev group? [11:48] i cant even change the permissions of the direcotry where the FAT32 drive gets mounted [11:49] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-63-3.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:50] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-240-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware. [11:51] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [11:52] allend: thats interesting , i actually dont have a plugdev group.. , [11:53] slack13 ? [11:54] toytoy (n=dindin@222.127.248.89) joined ##slackware. [11:54] Scuzz: sorry was that to me ? [11:54] yep [11:54] ivenkys: do you /etc/group? [11:54] ivenkys: do you have /etc/group? [11:55] allend: i do yes [11:55] Scuzz: nope , [11:55] and there is no plugdev entry? [11:56] allend: nope - [11:57] cd /etc/groups [11:57] oops [11:57] isnt it /etc/group [11:57] do i have to do anything 'special' if I plan to update the kernel? [11:57] let me do one more check on another machine and see whats going on ..- i might have had a bad install on this one [11:57] error on my part [11:57] two erros actualy [11:57] vdvluc (n=luc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:57] i was just checking mine [11:57] besides just compiling and booting the new kernel [11:59] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:00] zmyrgel: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=linux:kernelbuilding [12:01] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-124-184-136.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:01] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:02] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) left irc: Connection reset by peer [12:02] ivenkys, are you even using slackware or a different distro ? [12:02] im jsut curious [12:02] zmyrgel: especially "Modifying lilo,conf" [12:02] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:03] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) joined ##slackware. [12:03] Phail! Slackware 13.0 won't even recompile its own openldap-client package. /facepalm. I'll go back and see if there is ANYTHING I could have possibly done. I have a fresh virgin box untouched by anything post-setup. I'll try the package there. [12:03] allend: ah, thanks for that. [12:03] basicly, nothing extra is needed besides the kernel build [12:04] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:04] I was a bit confused about the kernel-headers glibc thing [12:05] hahaha, oh i'd forgotten how good evil dead 2 was [12:05] zmyrgel: Not hard, but a pain to recover from if you make an error. [12:05] he weighs down the bucket with his hand in it, with a book called farewell to arms [12:05] spook: hows the sobriety? [12:06] allend: I know... its even better if you don't have cdrom drive in your pc... [12:06] allend: still sober. [12:06] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [12:06] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.113.143) joined ##slackware. [12:06] spook: you are well behaved for a Friday. 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[12:14] good morning, good morning, good morning [12:14] pom pom pom pom, nothing to do to save his life call his wife in pam pam pam pam pam [12:14] hai [12:14] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:14] o.O [12:16] sounds like a husband off the leash [12:17] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:17] yasu (n=adminroo@tetkyo039020.tkyo.te.ftth2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp) left irc: "leaving" [12:17] sounds like the beatles [12:17] a day in the life [12:18] haha i can't believe people like their wives tell them what to do [12:18] some guys like that, i am not one of them. [12:18] jeev, the thing about dubai is you don't need porn.. there are half naked women running around everywhere... [12:18] I have just installed slackware 13.0 64 bit, however even after adding a user to plugdev, i still can't "mount" a usb hard drive with dophine? [12:18] how so frankjones [12:19] any ideas... ps i can't seem to find anything in the docs either [12:19] delt0r: permission problems? [12:19] delt0r: ps: you need to log off/log in after adding your user to plugdev [12:20] The error msg is a dbus error with Access Denined [12:20] yes i did that [12:20] and checked that groups gives plugdev as well [12:21] delt0r: i had those before in arch linux. can`t remember how i solved (included editing some obscure file). i`m gonna google that again for oyu [12:21] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:21] tooly (n=tooly@f053076041.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:22] aigon (n=rm@92.82.64.128) joined ##slackware. [12:22] It all worked fine in the when 13.0 was current... so I am surprised.. [12:22] https://www.moneypak.com/ what a cool idea for the scared people out there [12:22] delt0r: please paste the error in some pastebin [12:23] Its on my other machine... so give a min [12:23] also ---how can i cut and paste it.. i don't get the message in any txt console [12:23] but I can just type it out [12:24] delt0r: that would do it [12:24] Nick change: moh2a -> mohaa [12:24] siderov (n=siderov@e176069170.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [12:25] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [12:25] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:25] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [12:25] allend (n=allend@CPE-60-230-182-220.vic.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [12:27] I'm still trying to save my friends lappy and doing a dd to clone it but it fails somewhere around 8G of the first partition.... haven't got the error message sorry.... just wondering if there are -f options or something to continue through read errors? [12:27] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@62-47-141-75.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [12:27] aigon (n=rm@92.82.64.128) left irc: Client Quit [12:28] siderov (n=siderov@e176069170.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Client Quit [12:28] or any other advice? I'v /heard/ that cooling a somewhat broken hard disk can sometimes decrease read errors [12:28] yeah.. ive /heard/ you can stick it in a freezer with the cover off and itll run sweet [12:29] might have been that tramp down the street.... :) [12:29] bob!? you know bob..... [12:29] =P [12:29] Action: theblackbox is on the cusp of another epic fail [12:29] delt0r: i know it`s an arch linux wiki, but i think it applies: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HAL#Permission_Denied [12:31] how the hell does that apply? slackware doesn't use policykit [12:32] theblackbox there are some special programs that will continue to re-read bad 'blocks'? untill the data comes through.. there is a specific distro that deals with data recovery I can't remmeber the name.. [12:33] thrice`: doesn`t it? i didn`t know that. delt0r is having permissiondenied problems with DBus, and it`s a very similar problem that i had with arch, so, i thought it applied. [12:34] http://pastebin.com/m321411c0 [12:34] delt0r_, you didn't log out and back in after adding your user to the plugdev group [12:34] frankjones, something like that would be a saving grace [12:34] steiger, that was all hand typed [12:35] delt0r, ^^ [12:35] yes i did -- as in all users where loged out [12:35] how did you log out? [12:35] not just x windows [12:35] exit [12:35] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [12:35] Channel flood from delt0r -- kicking [12:35] exit [12:35] delt0r kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [12:35] everywhere? [12:35] delt0r (n=delt0r@62.47.141.75) joined ##slackware. [12:35] ops [12:36] wrong window [12:36] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-129-49.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:36] ciao deco [12:36] hi fire|bird =) [12:36] Logged out to the termerinal login promt [12:36] hi thrice`, spook [12:37] bvefore even starting X.org groups come up as having plugdev in the list [12:37] is hal running? [12:37] does "pgrep hald" return some results? [12:38] metrofox: ciao [12:38] yes [12:38] deco, what's up? [12:38] well the daemon is running... [12:38] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:38] metrofox: nothing much just reading the php .... and you ? [12:38] php book* [12:38] deco, nothing much for me too... I'm gonna read C book [12:39] cool [12:39] *the C book [12:39] yeah! When I'll finish it I'll review again and once done I'll read this php book =) [12:39] delt0r_, something isn't right; have you tried restarting hal? rebooted teh entire system? [12:40] metrofox: yeah it will be easy for you :p [12:40] maybe I'll finish before summer seen that I've got a lot of homework everyday :P [12:40] I have not tried either... [12:40] deco, I hope so! [12:40] I will do a full rebboot... don't know why i didn't try that before... [12:40] reminds me of the IT crowed... [12:40] I hope this won't be difficult as my first approach with C [12:40] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@62-47-141-75.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "Leaving" [12:41] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-fttyqmlhfmqgkofa) left irc: [12:42] delt0r, you can mess around with restarting services yourself, but if you're not doing anything, rebooting is easier [12:42] I am still setting it up--so "have you truned it off and on" is a good idea [12:42] god_of_spam (n=god_of_s@mnsr-4db0da63.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [12:43] bradhex (n=chris@c-98-193-248-168.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:43] the good news is the printer works now.. while it didn't under current [12:43] Just updated to current and having problems with amarok 2.2. I keep getting this error-amarok: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/kde4/amarok_data_engine_service.so: undefined symbol: _ZN3The16serviceInfoProxyEv [12:43] any ideas? [12:44] bradhex, probably related to mysql being updated; the last batch of -current updates broke alot of mysql and perl items [12:44] god_of_spam (n=god_of_s@mnsr-4db0da63.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:44] god_of_spam (n=god_of_s@mnsr-4db0da63.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [12:44] mm, well, actually, amarok was rebuilt too; nevermind [12:45] thrice`, steiger: it works perfectly after a reboot [12:45] sorry for wasiting your time [12:45] delt0r: nice! :) [12:45] it`s ok [12:45] I should have thorught of that [12:45] i`d waste my time anyway [12:45] cool ;) some rule in dbus must have been confused [12:46] thrice`: Do you know if anyone else is having this problem with current and amarok 2.2? [12:47] bradhex: google usually knows that [12:47] alienBOB: you still uses freenx ? [12:47] jhell (n=89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:47] bradhex, hadn't heard anything in here :( I don't use kde myself [12:47] steiger: Yes, google does, and google wasn't very helpful in showing any results for this odd undefined symbol error, unless I overlooked one. [12:47] god_of_spam (n=god_of_s@mnsr-4db0da63.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:47] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-240-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:48] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-147-44.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [12:49] bradhex: well, i`m still in 2.1 [12:49] steiger: Yes, it looks like I'll have to try and downgrade to that, although i had many problems with it from the get go [12:49] gar0t0, i use freenx or whatever sometimes [12:50] jeev: the new version? 3.4 ? [12:51] actually i use the one from nxserver.com, i dont think that's freenx [12:51] but it's free to me heh [12:51] i mean www.nomachine.com [12:51] http://www.nomachine.com/select-package.php?os=linux&id=1 [12:52] jeev: nxsetup don't exist more? (sorry about my english) [12:53] what do you mean [12:53] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-129-49.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:54] jeev: he means: doesn`t nxsetup exist anymore? [12:54] .. i guess [12:54] steiger: thanks :D [12:54] gar0t0: you`re welcome :) [12:54] nxsetup is a binary in the tar package [12:54] it's OK, jeev can't understand much [12:54] for slackware, you have to google it.. someone has a forum post on how to make it work with slackware [12:54] thrice`, that's cause you swung a bat at me when you found me in bed with your mom [12:55] doctor said it'll be OK soon [12:55] :o [12:55] Emanon (n=quassel@67.183.42.162) joined ##slackware. [12:55] I'll have to swing harder next time :> [12:55] jeev: i`ve noticed that you tend to sleep with a lot of ##slackware moms [12:55] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "leaving" [12:55] steiger, just thrice`'s actually [12:56] oh my god emacs`s done compiling [12:56] YAY [12:56] why would you compile emacs? :( [12:57] to get antialiased fonts [12:57] yayy, niice [12:57] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [12:57] IrquiM (n=irquim@176.80-202-41.nextgentel.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:58] antialiased fonts are only supported from version 23, slackware-current runs 22.something [12:58] jeev: on the tar files nxsetup doesn't exist!! [12:58] jeev: thank you for your help :) [12:58] gar0t0, did you search for the forum? [12:58] This doesn't change the fact that emacs is terrible. [12:58] It's like putting a dress on a pig [12:58] jeev: i'm looking for!! :) [12:59] hiptobecubic: and kissing it [12:59] hello world [12:59] 32 or 64bit ? [12:59] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:59] jeev: ty [12:59] jeev: 32 [12:59] deco, it may be arousing, but it's still a pig [12:59] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [12:59] lol [12:59] hiptobecubic: or a spider-pig [12:59] http://www.nomachine.com/download-package.php?Prod_Id=1351 [12:59] you need to download all those packages. [13:00] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/i-absolutely-utterly-give-up-nx-481050/page3.html [13:00] there's the post [13:00] maybe page 1 2 or 3 [13:00] has anyone put GridEngine on a slack64 box? [13:00] Action: Zordrak doubts it greatly [13:00] jeev: ty [13:01] no prob [13:01] IrquiM (n=irquim@176.80-202-41.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [13:01] hello happy people [13:01] sup git er done [13:02] nyRednek: hello sad animal [13:02] jeev: i'm not a larry the cable guy fan [13:02] heh [13:02] Nigromante: i'm happy, the doc gave me enough pills to make the back tolerable [13:02] ever been looking through backed up files and found stuff you forgot you had? [13:03] nope Emanon [13:03] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [13:03] nyRednek: glad to hear that :-/ [13:04] nyRednek: what the fuck happened to your back [13:04] steiger: trucking [13:04] dimmerbold (i=dimbold@masterarms.net) joined ##slackware. [13:04] nyRednek: that is, truck driving? [13:04] steiger: it went out a couple days ago inexplicably(been home dealing with a legal issue) [13:05] steiger: well, not so much the driving as the tandem pins, 5th wheel releases, and unloading the trucks [13:05] looking through a backup and i have the voynich manuscript for no apparent reason [13:05] nyRednek: oh i see [13:05] i have scoliosis, i predict i will have fucked up back too [13:05] steiger: but the driving, with heavy loads, transferring energy from trailer through seat, takes a toll [13:06] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [13:06] nyRednek: true [13:06] hi. fresh install of 13_64. installed OO (SBo) and the multimedia que (SBo), thats it. nothing else. now when I run fire fox I get "/usr/lib64/firefox-3.5.3/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 6512 Illegal instruction" [13:06] any ideas? [13:06] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:06] google was no help. [13:08] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [13:10] is this on a mac? [13:11] guaxinim (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [13:11] sahko: if you mean me...no. It's a i7. [13:11] Emanon (n=quassel@67.183.42.162) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:11] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:11] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [13:13] nachox (n=imarambi@190.216.26.210) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:13] mac os will run on an i7.. [13:14] what is the multimedia que? [13:15] ran on core2 dou dont see why it wouldnt on an i7 [13:15] The que file at sbopkg for multimedia builds...here:http://www.sbopkg.org/queues/13.0/multimedia.sqf [13:15] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:16] guaxinim (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:16] oh sbopkg has queues? [13:16] no problems with seamonkey. The window draws, I see my home screen then it crashes. [13:16] sorry dont know about your problem [13:16] sahko: yes. just a few, but they're helpful. [13:17] of course you can build your own in the interface as well. [13:17] the recursion makes it rally useful. [13:17] yeah seems helpful if you need all those codecs [13:17] really [13:18] hmmm [13:18] i think i'm going to go to purelib to build some stuff real quick [13:19] then go back to multilib [13:19] okay. so it only happens on yahoo mail. that is my home page. if I open direct to something else, it works. Unitl I go to yahoo mail. [13:21] slava_dp (n=slava@195.248.167.186) joined ##slackware. [13:23] weirdonickname (n=root@195-248-167-186.static.vega-ua.net) joined ##slackware. [13:23] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [13:23] weirdonickname kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [13:24] that was me above, just wanted to prove that kick-a-root thing with slackboy ;) [13:25] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:26] slava_dp: yea yea :P [13:26] interesting. seamonkey crashes as well. same line in the script but a different code. so it's a plugin probably? [13:26] init[0]: srsly :D [13:26] dimmerbold: probably [13:26] somehting triggered by ymail. [13:26] slava_dp: nvm :) [13:26] or an epic js bug [13:26] dimmerbold: i'd suggest it would be javascript or flash [13:28] test [13:28] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:29] agentc0re|work (n=jon@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [13:29] Action: Zordrak just picked-up a post-it block and a pen... and then put them down again [13:29] I'm mental, me(!) [13:29] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:29] firedix (n=firedix@host195.201-252-177.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [13:29] wow, i can see nothing exciting is going on here atm. [13:30] agentc0re|work (n=jon@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: Client Quit [13:30] agentc0re|work: im busy being aggrieved that im buying 10 1U servers at £50 each.. but im gonna have to put CentOS on about 6 of them :( [13:31] lotec_ (n=lotec@static-96-254-222-162.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:31] nyRednek: tough to test javascript on that page...if you disable it, it won't let you in. [13:31] just tried. [13:31] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:31] dimmerbold: sorry, was testing whether i was here [13:31] I have a soundcard issue on slackware 13, alsaconf detects no soundcard, then asks if it should test legacy ISA drivers.... pci id = 1039:0964 [13:31] ah [13:32] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [13:33] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-111-204.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:35] frankjones (n=mike@203.88.90.202) left ##slackware. [13:36] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:37] nyRednek: you were right anyway. removing flash-player-plugin-10.0_r32-x86_64 fixed the problem. [13:38] dimmerbold: interesting [13:38] dimmerbold: i haven't had that issue with yahoo mail and flash [13:38] dimmerbold: then again, i use gmail as my primary mail [13:38] dimmerbold: and i primarily use it through alpine(now) [13:39] lotec (n=lotec@static-96-254-222-162.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:39] yeah. it's not a deal breaker here, but it sucks anyway. it would be nice to know what the issue is. [13:39] Hello [13:39] Action: Zordrak hides [13:40] _maxiwll_AR (n=_maxiwll@201.90.140.3) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:40] _maxiwll_AR (n=_maxiwll@201-75-46-15-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:41] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:43] dimmerbold: figured that either the flash plugin or disabling javascript would fix the issue [13:43] dimmerbold: do you have nspluginwrapper installed? [13:44] no [13:45] I just installed "flashblock" addon. I'm going to see if that helps. [13:45] dimmerbold: you need nspluginwrapper [13:46] nyRednek: hadn't heard that before. why? [13:47] ok. 32 bit vs. 64bit [13:47] the flash plugin is a netscape plugin [13:47] and i'd install the 64 bit one [13:47] unless you plan on using 32 bit plugins [13:47] then you need both [13:47] no [13:47] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [13:47] http://pastebin.com/m5402e896 not much information given by lspci -vv, can anyone decode that? [13:48] pupiteee (n=p@93.87.217.37) joined ##slackware. [13:48] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.82.77) joined ##slackware. [13:48] nyRednek: I've never used nspluginwrapper before. just reading on it now.a [13:49] Its worked before in slackware, long time since i tried using sound on this machine though, It's onboard sound. [13:50] interesting, when I use flashblock, load the yahoo page then *enable* all the embeded flash, the page works. [13:50] dimmerbold: interesting [13:50] dimmerbold: not sure [13:50] dimmerbold: sounds like a yahoo issue [13:50] nyRednek: me neither. [13:50] i agree [13:51] no apparent problems elsewhere. [13:51] dimmerbold: a bit one to test your flash with...youtube [13:52] s/bit/big [13:52] or your favorite porn portal [13:52] flash was the best thing that ever happened in the field of internet porn [13:53] steiger: yeah, you can watch without downloading [13:53] Yeah...I disabled flashblock and went to youtube. no problems. Back to yahoo and - crash. [13:53] i've got a question, [13:53] do you think that [13:53] smileys on Xchat are possible ? [13:53] There's a nokia add there. It's right when that starts to load (nokia add) that the window disappears. [13:53] lol [13:53] on Linux, of course [13:54] nyRednek: well, technically you still 'download' it, but you don't have to worry about nothing. you don't have to worry about codecs, and you can bufferize it [13:54] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [13:54] deco, hollé [13:54] fredoslack: salut :) [13:54] steiger: right [13:54] deco, do you think i c'est possible ? [13:54] selon you [13:55] if * [13:55] fredoslack: peut etre [13:55] nyRednek: anyway, thanks for the help. I'm out, for now. [13:55] dimmerbold: i really didn't do anything, but you're welcome [13:55] dimmerbold (i=dimbold@masterarms.net) left irc: "leaving" [13:56] sporten29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:57] fredoslack: http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=1813&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15 at the bottom of the first post [13:57] deco, wéééé [13:57] deco, and it works ? [13:57] ça marche ? [13:58] i keep your link [13:58] i put it in my favorites, [13:58] i will look this tomorrow [13:58] thank you <3 [13:58] fredoslack: de rien, i haven't tried but give it a try... [13:58] ok [13:58] :p [14:01] alphad64 (n=alphad64@213.136.96.104) joined ##slackware. [14:02] deco, this week-end, [14:02] i install Ubuntu on a friend' computer [14:02] friend's [14:03] i have installed Linux on my dad's pc, [14:03] shyko (n=shyko@187.39.218.159) joined ##slackware. [14:03] he is very very satisfaid [14:03] happy * [14:04] fredoslack: that's awesome :D [14:04] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [14:04] dec^^ [14:05] -dec [14:05] well, i come back in France [14:05] ++ [14:05] =) [14:05] theblackslab (n=theblack@188-220-125-117.zone11.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[14:08] hehe [14:08] deco, mais ce serait sympa que tu passes, je suis sur #informatique [14:08] agentc0re|work: my screen is literally FULL of red.... hide [14:08] i am on #informatique :p [14:08] Zordrak: lol [14:08] deco, i am op là-bas [14:08] =) [14:09] no parlay vous francai [14:09] canal operator * [14:09] ! [14:09] je parle bien français [14:09] stupid cheese-eating surrender-monkeys [14:09] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65207fb.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [14:09] lmao!! [14:09] hiptobecubic (i=46eed9f5@gateway/web/freenode/x-hnmefhnqpypqijal) joined ##slackware. [14:10] speaking of cheese-eating surrender-monkeys.... [14:10] hi hiptobecubic :P [14:10] just happens that deco and fredoslack are both red-tagged and the only ones awake [14:10] i like cheese :) [14:10] [x]sodium[x] (i=sodium@117.96.107.166) joined ##slackware. [14:10] fredoslack: oh cool :P [14:10] :p [14:11] hiptobecubic: i picture you saying that like that big black guy from the green mile movie. [14:11] i forget what his real name is and am too lazy to look it up. but man, his voice is deep. [14:12] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-43-100.ip100.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [14:12] fredoslack: a lot of people in that channel ? [14:12] deco, no, 48 [14:12] users [14:13] fredoslack: oh ok [14:13] but we speek comptuer [14:13] hehe [14:13] computer * [14:13] Where is the appropriate place to submit a Slackware 13.0 bug report? [14:13] hiptobecubic (i=46eed9f5@gateway/web/freenode/x-hnmefhnqpypqijal) left irc: Client Quit [14:13] fredoslack: 001001? [14:13] LInux, Windows ... [14:13] agentc0re, 0FE00 [14:13] :p [14:13] rtcg: have you posted anything on LQ or talked to anyone here? [14:13] hex! [14:13] fredoslack: ewww you hex users. i hate you all! [14:13] rtcg: usually the best way would be 1) confirm it with other it is a bug 2) email [14:13] fredoslack: just kiddin. [14:14] ^^ [14:14] ienh (n=ienh@ARennes-353-1-51-254.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "leaving" [14:14] <[x]sodium[x]> guys where i can get slackware [14:15] <[x]sodium[x]> i have low bandwith so can't download it [14:15] [x]sodium[x]: /topic [14:15] [x]sodium[x]: are you kidding? [14:15] [x]sodium[x]: library + usb drive? [14:15] [x]sodium[x]: or do i have to kill you? [14:15] [x]sodium[x]: buy it from the slackware store. [14:15] kill! kill! kill! [14:15] [x]sodium[x]: is it worse than 300k? [14:15] if not, you can very well download the dvd in a day or two [14:16] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:16] ok.. Well a fresh clean full-install of Slackware 13.0 is unable to recompile an unmodified openldap-client package from the source directory on CD6. [14:16] I'd say that's a bug somewhere. [14:16] <[x]sodium[x]> yes :(( 6 kbps [14:16] I'd like to know how Pat compiled it in the first place. [14:16] [x]sodium[x]: 6?! [14:16] 6 kbps? [14:16] <[x]sodium[x]> in dian any slackware store ? [14:16] rtcg: i have a fresh 64 install.. i will test [14:16] <[x]sodium[x]> *india [14:17] <[x]sodium[x]> yes :(( [14:17] thanks Zordrak. [14:17] hello all... in a world of pain here - my media disk just decided to do the whole clickety click spin up spin down thing, so I'm not holding out mush hope here.... won't even boot with it connected, but I was curious as to what could have caused this... the drive has been fine since I got it less than a year ago... problems only started last night when I was using it to backup something (oh the irony) and filled the bugger [14:17] <[x]sodium[x]> guys ? [14:17] rtcg: building now. [14:17] [x]sodium[x]: http://store.slackware.com/cgi-bin/store [14:17] and get a better nick too [14:17] I will imagine that I'm listening to on-hold music. [14:18] rtcg: s/music/muzak/ ;) [14:18] bah, worst hold music ever: scooter... seriously.... non-stop for like an hour! [14:18] well, I was hoping to imagine the words along with the song. [14:18] rtcg: no. pastebin the output. [14:18] who would do that to their customers! [14:19] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [14:19] rg31 (n=deckard@83.231.19.136) joined ##slackware. [14:19] <[x]sodium[x]> :-* [14:19] http://pastebin.ca/1624004 [14:20] <[x]sodium[x]> guys slackware is better than debian ? [14:20] the cat in the hat ..... [14:20] slackware is DIFFERENT than debian [14:20] [x]sodium[x]: stop. turn around. take eighteen-hundred paces [14:20] green eggs and ham [14:20] now I'm hungry AND bored of on-hold 'muzak' [14:21] The HDD in question was a 1TB ext3 formatted and I'd maxed out the caqpacity around 98% ... I was just wondering: with no spare space on the device it may have corrupted the journaling/mbr ... hell I don't know, just trying to rationalise this one =S [14:21] rtcg: hmm the compile fails for me as well. [14:21] theblackslab: well done on using ext3 on 1TB >.< [14:21] pupiteee (n=p@93.87.217.37) left irc: "Leaving." [14:21] theblackslab: the hardware failed? shit happens. [14:21] Yay for failing compiles for BP{k} -- in a bad kind of way. [14:21] Zordrak, that not wise? [14:22] theblackslab: sometimes shit happens and you don't know why, live with that :P [14:22] theblackslab: ridiculously wasteful is one way to put it [14:22] steiger, yeah I got the idea the first time [14:22] Zordrak, hmm, never knew... just an automatic decision [14:23] theblackslab: you're literally throwing away like 75GB using ext3 on that size [14:23] Action: rtcg offers the following explanations to theblackslab: To everything-turn_turn_turn (a triple pun there!), over heating, Bad Karma, [14:24] hmmm, pretty sure it wouldn't have been overheating though.... pretty bling thermal dissipation on a case I robbed.... borrowed from work [14:24] ahhh, I get you now.... karma [14:24] Action: theblackslab shakes fist at the sky [14:24] karma is a bitch. [14:24] BP{k}: So, any words of wisdom from the wise on how to beat the openldap package into submission? I've been banging my head on this for a day trying to figure out what is causing the failure. [14:25] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65210cf.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [14:25] Action: rtcg sees that BP{k} has also met Ms. Karma! [14:25] rtcg: im looking.. but BP{k} is 3 mins ahead of every bloody move i make :) [14:25] You just need to accept donations for faster hardware. [14:25] Zordrak: tell you what, I'll take a 5 minute break for beer. ;) [14:26] rtcg: the hardware is fine.. i just had to reboot it first [14:26] Zordrak, okay, but 75G aint a disasterous waste.... good to know for next time though, cheers.... any credence to the idea the capacity might have had a hand in this [14:26] no.. disk dio [14:26] *disks die [14:26] Zordrak: actually, are you working on a 32bits or 64bits platform? [14:26] BP{k}: 64 [14:26] theblackslab: i lost 3 disks in 24 horus in three different machines [14:27] yeah,,,,, specially these seagate ones.... think it might still be under warranty though [14:27] theblackslab: shit happens. life sucks [14:27] theblackslab: more often than not heat is the cause [14:27] Zordrak, I'm gunning for that record ;) [14:27] [x]sodium[x] (i=sodium@117.96.107.166) left ##slackware. [14:27] theblackslab: you will never win [14:27] lol [14:27] ive lost 10 disks in 3 years [14:27] i only bought 10 [14:27] if ext3 = wastedspace then what is recommended? [14:27] xfs [14:27] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [14:27] ahh [14:28] Action: theblackslab makes a mental note [14:28] theblackslab: write it down on paper too, you know, as backup. :) [14:28] Do any of the Linux filesystems use "disk block suballocation" like the old netware file system? [14:29] is that using a single disk block for more than one file? [14:29] okay, I'm gonna go and cry like a little girl for a while and mourn my loss [14:29] fire|bird, why I a'oughta! [14:29] theblackslab: join the offtopic channel... [14:29] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.82.77) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:29] theblackslab: hahaha, you 'oughta what? :P [14:29] Nick change: rg31 -> rg3 [14:29] rtcg: quickly double checking on my 32bit chroot. [14:29] deco, yeah sorry [14:30] amazon10x (i=captain@liberstation.com) joined ##slackware. [14:30] theblackslab: no i mean to let it alll out :P [14:30] all* [14:30] theblackslab: let all your frustrations out on deco, it's fun. :) [14:30] lol, going now anyway, fire|bird has muscled me out =P [14:30] rg31: Yes. It is where one disk block can "sub-lease" it's free space to a file. [14:30] fire|bird: indeed :) [14:30] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-48-11.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:30] i am reading openldaps config and it looks like sldap is required for the build. [14:30] y0 agentc0re|work [14:31] rtcg: i believe btrfs does tail packing [14:31] http://www.openldap.org/software/release/install.html [14:31] have a good weekend all, especially you theblackbox ;) [14:31] tail packing? um... yeah I don't go that way. [14:31] this seems to be a known bug with openldap [14:31] it compiles if you add -D_GNU_SOURCE to the makeflags [14:31] theblackslab: try the offtopic channel next time too, you won't be sane anymore [14:31] rtcg: what do you mean? [14:31] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-240-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:32] rg3: never mind. poor crude humor that wasn't in fact humorous...obviously. [14:32] Ok Zordrak. I asked that here yesterday and added that to my flags and I still get a failure. [14:32] rtcg: oh, sorry, english is not my first language so i didn't understand the joke :) [14:32] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [14:33] have you tested it with the flags?? I did and it didn't work the way alien BOB told me to implement it. [14:33] yes. I just added -D_GNU_SOURCE to SLKFLAGS [14:33] what did bob tell you? [14:33] er SLKCFLAGS [14:33] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.56.12.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:35] theblackslab (n=theblack@188-220-125-117.zone11.bethere.co.uk) left ##slackware. [14:35] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-240-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:35] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:35] bob? eh.. .I asked how to do something and he answered it. I did not describe my problem per se.. : He told me where to add: CPPFLAGS=-D_GNU_SOURCE [14:35] right ok.. makes sense [14:35] obviously CPPFLAGS and SLKCFLAGS are different. [14:36] no not really [14:36] only a little anyway [14:37] CFLAGS="$SLKCFLAGS" [14:37] well, using cppflags= doesn't make it work. [14:37] then its the difference between CFLAGS and CPPFLAGS [14:37] Karu (n=alch@78-28-82-163.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [14:37] the issue is.. why is it needed at all.. how did pat build it without [14:38] unless he sets it as a standard env var for all builds [14:38] which wouldnt make sense [14:38] did bob offer a splanation? [14:38] ok.. let me put in the CFLAGS [14:38] that will fail [14:38] no explanation. I just asked how/where to add CPPFLAGS=-D_GNU_SOURCE to a slackbuild script. [14:39] in the slackbuild configure runs with CFLAGS="$SLKCFLAGS" [14:39] http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=156475 [14:39] add it to SLKCFLAGS for your architecture at the top of the script [14:39] possible fix. [14:39] agentc0re|work: dupe [14:40] okay. [14:40] dupe? [14:40] agentc0re|work: its the same fix just source mod instead of build mod [14:40] oh, gotcha. [14:41] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-11.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:41] alienBOB: *poke* [14:41] ....... [14:41] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:43] _hakera_ (n=stomanat@77-85-69-198.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [14:43] <_hakera_> hi everybody :) [14:43] <_hakera_> i have big problem :) [14:44] <_hakera_> install slack 13.0, but it starts with gnome :( [14:44] _hakera_: fail [14:44] success. [14:44] samuelig (n=samuelig@16.pool85-57-150.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [14:44] <_hakera_> during installation i choose kde x..... [14:44] as in openldap compile success. [14:44] <_hakera_> what? [14:44] _hakera_: slackware doesnt HAVE gnome [14:44] _hakera_: at all [14:44] rtcg: indeed [14:44] rtcg: nice. [14:45] what's gnome? [14:45] rhetorical question..don't answer. [14:45] <_hakera_> moment.i`ll show u snapshot... [14:45] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [14:45] _hakera_: where did you download slackware? [14:45] <_hakera_> mmmmmmm [14:45] <_hakera_> some mirror i think from usa.... [14:45] _hakera_: and this is a fresh install? [14:45] <_hakera_> official mirror from list from slackware.com [14:46] <_hakera_> yes yes [14:46] <_hakera_> 1h ago... :) [14:46] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:46] Action: deco lost hope in humanity [14:46] <_hakera_> this is laptop [14:46] i doubt it's gnome. i bet the KDE foot is making you think that it's gnome. i think that's just the widget button...(i don't use kde) [14:47] screenshot? [14:47] _hakera_: i will say this again. Slackware. Does. Not. Have. GNOME. [14:47] artv61 (n=artv61@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:47] <_hakera_> and i can make klick by using........touchpad [14:47] <_hakera_> i must klick with left/right button [14:47] <_hakera_> ok ok. look this [14:47] it had better be ashort url [14:47] <_hakera_> http://i34.tinypic.com/121crxh.png [14:47] deco: You lost hope the other day, you can't lose it again. :P [14:48] lmao, i was right! [14:48] that's kde [14:48] 1) already answered - that's kde. [14:48] <_hakera_> in top right corner is logo of gnome i think..... [14:48] thats KDE4 you moron [14:48] hahah [14:48] <_hakera_> and "K" menu is owful [14:48] lol! [14:48] fire|bird: well...... shuddap you freak! [14:48] 2) NOTABUG [14:48] _hakera_: you can change the menu to the old style but this is kde4. get with the times man! :D [14:48] rworkman: you can sub in for bob [14:48] Tap-to-click is disabled by default on all touchpads that have *real* buttons with them. [14:49] <_hakera_> wow :) [14:49] <_hakera_> ok. how to switch to old style? [14:49] _hakera_: right click on the big k [14:49] <_hakera_> but on 12.2 my mouse work normal :) [14:49] The Moon is Waning Crescent (3% of Full) [14:49] <_hakera_> yes. k menu :) [14:49] rworkman: do you know how come openldap-client's source is broken as-shipped? [14:49] Zordrak: I don't [14:49] I didn't know it was. [14:50] rworkman: requires a CFLAG thats not in the build [14:50] <_hakera_> yes i saw how to switch [14:50] <_hakera_> 10x :) [14:50] if you run the build in the shipped source it dies [14:50] fire|bird: have you seen the cat in the hat movie ? [14:50] no [14:50] ..... [14:50] <_hakera_> now how to fix mouse? [14:50] <_hakera_> in xorg with emulate 3 buttons [14:50] rworkman: confirmed on 32&64 / 3 people's bokes [14:50] *boxes [14:50] <_hakera_> zaxismapping? [14:51] _hakera_: xorg.conf is deprecated [14:51] Zordrak: Weird. Mail Pat - probably it was accidentally done when the source trees for 32 and 64 were merged (back before 64-current was public) [14:51] aye [14:51] rtcg: you wanna mail pat or shall i? [14:51] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Connection reset by peer [14:53] Well, afk again. [14:53] <_hakera_> ok [14:53] kbai :) [14:53] <_hakera_> how to config then? [14:53] with hal [14:53] hal should autodetect [14:53] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-111-204.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [14:53] Who can 'splain it best to him? [14:54] I need not glory and credit. [14:54] rtcg: i will do it if you like [14:54] <_hakera_> ? [14:54] Thank you for emailing Pat, Zordrak. I appreciate it. [14:54] <_hakera_> there is no hal command?! [14:54] you go deal with _hakera_ :) [14:54] <_hakera_> how to use it? :) [14:54] thank you guys SO much for helping. [14:55] no probs.. we like a good problem that actually exists and isnt a moron flailing in a swamp [14:55] hello mr.rworkman =) [14:56] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.113.143) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:56] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:58] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:59] _hakera_ (n=stomanat@77-85-69-198.btc-net.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [14:59] well, I'm glad to bring you real and true problems and bugs. I do *try* to do my research first before playing the part of village idiot. [15:02] Action: Zordrak mailed pat [15:03] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:04] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:04] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [15:05] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [15:05] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:05] rworkman: hey Robby, other Robby here ... how you doing? [15:05] Karu (n=alch@78-28-82-163.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:07] fire|bird: crux window theme looks really nice [15:07] Karu (n=alch@78-28-82-163.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [15:08] gaz- (n=gaz@xvm-12-22.ghst.net) joined ##slackware. [15:08] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:08] Karu (n=alch@78-28-82-163.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:10] deco: I came across this, a non-satisfied kde user. :P http://thelinuxexperiment.com/linux/oh-god-what-the-hell-linux11/ [15:10] deco: cool, I've never tried crux. [15:10] \o/ [15:10] hey thrice` [15:10] heyo [15:11] fire|bird: is that your blog ? :P [15:11] no [15:11] fire|bird: jk, gnome lovers.... [15:12] gnome?!?!?!, OMG. [15:12] BAH gnome! [15:12] =) [15:12] fire|bird: the guy from the blog [15:12] mesaGL (n=mesaGL@unaffiliated/mesagl) left irc: [15:12] Karu (n=alch@78-28-82-163.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [15:12] Camarade_Tux: you promised friday :( [15:13] deco: yeah :P [15:13] deco: he, I cooked for two, I'm waiting for you -_- [15:13] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Client Quit [15:13] [ in bed ] [15:13] Camarade_Tux: oh yeah i'll be there in a little bit, i'm looking for something nice to wear ... [15:14] fire|bird: no ... not yet -_- [15:14] deco: come naked, it'll be faster ^^ [15:14] that's what she said [15:14] Camarade_Tux: yeah that's true... [15:15] Camarade_Tux: just don't get me drunk like the other girls -_- [15:15] deco: he, wasn't me! [15:16] and you can cook two croque-madame while IRC'ing :) [15:16] yeah :D [15:16] Camarade_Tux: we can also listen to some mylene farmer while at it [15:17] (croque-madame is a very healthy diet: sliced bread, ham, cheese, egg, and you toast everything in your wonderful new oven ^^) [15:17] deco: do we *have* to? [15:17] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:18] Optimistique toi [15:18] Camarade_Tux: just to desenchantee [15:18] Zordrak: lol, why? (and "optimiste", strip the "ic" ;-) ) [15:18] fail [15:18] deco: hmmm, ok [15:19] Camarade_Tux: fail [15:19] Zordrak: how? [15:19] ah [15:19] http://www.google.com/search?q=mylene+farmer+optimistique+moi [15:19] I don't listen to that [15:20] Camarade_Tux: you failed us [15:20] Action: Camarade_Tux has had Led Zeppelin playing for 4 hours [15:20] Camarade_Tux: come even i know that and i listen to metal too... [15:20] shame shame [15:20] deco: not knowing mylene farmer only proves I'm actually french ;p [15:20] Camarade_Tux: isn't it the opposite :P [15:20] Action: Zordrak <3 Zazie [15:21] deco: I started Led Zeppelin when I took my bath, I slept for about one hour :) [15:21] deco: no no :P [15:21] Camarade_Tux: lorie lover :P [15:21] I thought you loved Alizee... yaxm.org/!Alizée [15:21] Camarade_Tux: yeah i did before she left mylene [15:21] Camarade_Tux: new music sucks [15:22] Lorie... no, never [15:22] Camarade_Tux: pffft,i know you have some playing right now [15:22] Wiren (n=aad@80.13.211.241) left irc: [15:22] Camarade_Tux: alizee is kida over in france right ? [15:22] where's necos been [15:23] kinda* [15:23] Playing Led Zeppelin - IV/_CDImage.ape. [15:23] deco: the music yes, the pictures and the name no ;-) [15:23] Camarade_Tux: lolita :P [15:24] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [15:24] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [15:24] he [15:24] Camarade_Tux: want me to sing that song tonight ? :P [15:24] deco: No, he wants you to sing "You light up my life" [15:25] deco: pretty unlikely [15:25] Camarade_Tux: Moi je m'appelle Lolita [15:25] lol that brings back memories [15:25] lotec_ (n=lotec@static-96-254-222-162.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:26] hi Camarade_Tux [15:26] hey fire|bird [15:26] gonna play soccer with friends [15:26] see ya guys ;) [15:26] hey metrofox [15:27] cool, have fun. see ya. :) [15:27] metrofox: that's cool . im gonna play later tonight too :P [15:27] metrofox: ciao [15:27] :P [15:27] goodbye [15:27] ciao deco ;) [15:27] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.146.172) left irc: "+-||\-" [15:27] hi metrofox ^^ [15:27] fail [15:27] fail [15:27] deco: no, I knew ;-) [15:27] Camarade_Tux: ...... [15:27] agentc0re|work (n=jon@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:28] just that metrofox appeared and said "hi, bye" :) [15:28] fire|bird: shitlist him please [15:28] lol [15:28] :P [15:28] deco: again? =) [15:28] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.56.12.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:28] Camarade_Tux: as many times it takes to fix you [15:28] deco: that'll never happen, why waste time. [15:28] true... [15:29] hmmm lets see how long i last tonight with out a yellow card [15:29] beer [15:29] <- happy [15:29] without* [15:30] deco: :) [15:30] crap. now I got that song running through m head. And I thought we were done with muzac [15:30] Camarade_Tux: i only played 5 minutes last time :( [15:30] http://thelinuxexperiment.com/linux/oh-god-what-the-hell-linux11/ <- maybe that "and nearly an entire 24 of Stella" was part of the problem [15:31] rtcg: better or worse than the hold music? :P [15:31] worse cuz now I'm singing it aloud and getting strange looks. [15:32] haha [15:32] oh lawd. friend just txt'd me saying "help plz! best way to uninstall ubuntu once installed, watcha think?" [15:32] lol [15:32] grab your nearest Vista Virus CD [15:32] hahaha [15:32] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:33] amazon10x: Can they take the hard drive out and get access to a sledge hammer? :P [15:33] agentc0re|work (n=jon@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [15:33] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65210cf.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [15:33] amazon10x: install slackware over it? =) [15:34] haha [15:34] he says he installed it from within windows [15:34] i guess that's that wubi thing or something [15:34] In that case, remove it from add/remove programs [15:34] in Windows [15:34] It installs as any other regular program [15:35] or a virtual machine? [15:36] in any cas, it's über-easy [15:36] alright, told him to go to add/remove and look for it in there [15:37] it's been a while since any changes to -current [15:37] tell him his hard disk needs oiling to clean it up [15:37] tell him to use peanut oil [15:37] and even that still leaves Ubuntu slime. [15:37] shyko (n=shyko@187.39.218.159) left irc: "Leaving" [15:38] amazon10x: well, -13 has been released recently [15:38] that wubi software seems pretty awesome [15:39] thrice`: yeah. too bad we don't have any noobs on slack to develop it for [15:39] thrice`: actually it doesn't do much [15:40] and it's slower [15:40] frankly, i don't see any purpose for it besides to trick noobs into running linux easily [15:40] yup [15:40] define noob... i have only used it for 5-6 years [15:40] or, get them to try it out really simply [15:40] is the idea of installing two OSs to separate partitions that difficult anyway? [15:40] marketing [15:40] seriously, what an awesome way to let people try linux [15:40] thrice`: colinux [15:41] vbox [15:41] thrice`: i feel like a vmware player type thing would be just as good [15:41] vmware == failware [15:41] dont get me wrong it used to be the awesome choice [15:41] I think there are alot of people who are clueless what virtualization even is [15:41] "vmware player *type" [15:41] then they turned it into the suck [15:41] vbox is what i use now [15:42] whenever i do need to use something [15:42] have you all seen the 10/gui video? [15:42] i would rather run MS Virtual PC under Wine that run VMWare Server now :) [15:42] *than run [15:42] amazon10x: did [15:42] oh, i had to use vmware server at work. was ridicilously clunky and unintuitive [15:42] Zordrak: hahaha :P [15:43] Camarade_Tux: what'd you think. i was really excited by it [15:43] amazon10x: ++ [15:43] amazon10x: I wasn't, I have a better idea ^^ [15:43] here's what i want to know, what's the cost looking like for a touchpad that big? [15:43] xD [15:43] my stomach is definitely happy =) [15:43] those synaptics pads with multi touch are cheap i think, but they're tiny. and do they work with 10 fingers? [15:43] i've only seen like 3 on a mac i think [15:43] theyve changed it from a client into a browser plugin and the server changed from a good/well written service into some kind of insane J2EE app [15:44] Zordrak: yeah, it's insane [15:44] practically unusable [15:44] amazon10x: afaik hey don't like many fingers [15:44] my idea is to use gauntlets to track any hand movement, for both hands [15:44] sloinn (i=5ef14741@gateway/web/freenode/x-yxkxaspujtpxgsjl) joined ##slackware. [15:44] you don't have to worry about a 10 inch thing, you don't have to worry about where you put it [15:44] Camarade_Tux: you'd just wave your arms around in the air? [15:45] or you'd rest them on the desk [15:45] now, the question is: is it doable? it may be, I have to check for optic fiber sensors [15:45] amazon10x: or on the table, or on your girlfriend, or like on a keyboard, or anything [15:45] as soon as you can find the hand and fingers movements, you can do *anything* [15:45] [ in bed ] [15:46] fire|bird: unless you have handcuffs -_- [15:46] :O [15:47] Matthew_Murdock (n=user@77.46.171.118) joined ##slackware. [15:47] man, i wanted to take the motorcycle safety course this weekend, but it's gonna rain the whole time [15:47] wear a poncho. :P [15:48] retsudo (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:49] i mean, i could, but i'm imagining being in the rain... bleh [15:49] what so sweet afraid you will melt [15:49] claudio_ (n=claudio@ip-route.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:50] phzin (n=StupidX@189.57.19.89) left ##slackware. [15:50] basically [15:51] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [15:53] http://linuxcrunch.com/content/5-things-make-kubuntu-910-special <- I count 0 [15:53] hi, I installed 64-bit Slack 13. Now I can't change keyboard layout and variant and write in my language. Also, my CAPSLOCK is not CTRL anymore and I tried `Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps"'. But, when I go in X and type `setxkbmap -rules xfree86 -layout "us,rs,rs" -variant ",,latin" -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle"' everything works. Why is this? Here is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/1624098 [15:53] [15:54] Karu (n=alch@78-28-82-163.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left ##slackware. [15:54] Matthew_Murdock: your fail/ure is to not realise that xorg.conf is deprecated [15:54] slava_dp (n=slava@195.248.167.186) left irc: "leaving" [15:54] these things should be set in hal [15:55] he http://stinkchildcomics.com/ :) [15:55] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-45-151-98.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:55] Matthew_Murdock: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/2009/08/30/slackware-13-0-xorg-hal/ [15:55] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:56] mesaGL (n=mesaGL@unaffiliated/mesagl) joined ##slackware. [15:56] Zordrak: Thank you! [15:57] rtcg (n=rtcg@static-71-164-174-18.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Another satisfied customer - billions and billions served..."). [15:59] br00tal (n=Jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:00] pprkut: running 2.6.32-rc1/2, without any specific boot switch, touchpad seems fixed [16:00] s/fixed/ok/ [16:00] (but it's hard to tell, I've had too much uptime and not enough reboots) [16:00] jhell (n=89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) joined ##slackware. [16:00] br00tal (n=Jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] everyone have a good weekend [16:03] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:03] Chri2048 (n=chris@adsl-83-100-141-23.karoo.KCOM.COM) joined ##slackware. [16:03] lo [16:04] Hey, is there anyway I can get linux to differentiate between C-right and right? [16:04] my box sees both as '^[[C'. [16:04] I'd like it to see C- as '^[OC' [16:04] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:04] hmmmmm [16:04] Chri2048: in which application/program? [16:04] Dont answer.. Hull scum! [16:04] v4nelle (n=van@adsl77-146.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:05] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Client Quit [16:05] Hull scum? [16:05] heh :) [16:05] Camarade_Tux: same here, but I'm back to the issues of earlier kernel versions. *Sometimes* I'm just not getting a Synaptics one on boot :/ [16:05] paissad-hp (n=paissad@89.87.195.22) joined ##slackware. [16:05] paissad-hp (n=paissad@89.87.195.22) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [16:06] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:06] pprkut: well, I hadn't noticed them, maybe because I didn't have any specific functionnality with sla*-12.2 (I had but I always lost it after my kernel recompile and never found out how to get it back) [16:07] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [16:07] I might have got my answer, I feel a bit stupid [16:07] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@198.82.19.251) joined ##slackware. [16:07] Camarade_Tux: I recognize pretty quickly since my cursor moves way faster when running synaptics compared to the default mouse driver. [16:08] on top of it, scrolling of course doesn't work either [16:08] I forgot I connected to my boxes via screen. This looks like a screen issue. [16:08] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [16:08] pprkut: I don't use the cursor enough to notice it I think ;) [16:08] but I do use scrolling [16:09] Action: Camarade_Tux runs like a 100MHz P4 [16:09] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-111-204.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:09] Camarade_Tux: there's another weird issue with .32 though. I'm not quite sure what's happening there, but for whatever reason starting X enables my internal speakers [16:09] pprkut: hahaha :P [16:10] 31 doesn't do that :/ [16:10] pprkut: but I only have laptop speakers so I won't help you much for that ;) [16:10] me as well [16:11] br00tal (n=Jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:12] so, how did you notice the problem? [16:12] Panzer (n=panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:13] well, if you are used to turned-off speakers, upgrade to .32, and next start the laptop in the middle of a class in university, with suddenly *enabled* speakers, it's really hard to *not* notice :P [16:13] br00tal (n=Jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) joined ##slackware. [16:13] pprkut: hahaha :P [16:13] Action: Zordrak *really* misses the BRS [16:14] pprkut: but no DE here so nothing played unless I start mplayer ;) [16:14] I actually start with PCM at 75% [16:14] yeah, well, I don't even know why I have that kde startup sound enabled. I guess I just like it ;) [16:14] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [16:15] hi gar0t0 [16:15] I mean alt + ctr + d was a common feauture under kde 3 ... I cannotlive without it, come on [16:15] Camarade_Tux: are you ok? [16:15] :) [16:16] pprkut: I grew so annoyed of all the things that happened without me asking for them that I ditch any DE [16:16] gar0t0: besides that lack of sleep + alcohol = pure slowness, yes ;p [16:16] Matthew_Murdock (n=user@77.46.171.118) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)"). [16:17] Camarade_Tux: hehe. I admit it, I'm addicted to kde :) [16:17] _maxiwll_AR (n=_maxiwll@201-75-46-15-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [16:17] panzer (n=panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) joined ##slackware. [16:17] no wai [16:18] Camarade_Tux: what DE do you use ? [16:18] yes wai [16:18] Camarade_Tux: oh hmmm what WM do you use ? [16:19] Camarade_Tux: you're not on wayland, are you? :P [16:19] deco: openbox [16:19] pprkut: hahaha, no :P [16:19] deco: no DE :D [16:20] Camarade_Tux: :P, using xfce for now but i might go for a WM too [16:20] my only addiction is bread I think [16:20] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:20] Camarade_Tux: and me [16:20] deco: you mean a WM only? [16:20] Camarade_Tux: yeah [16:21] deco: don't forget, fluxbox is bad -_- [16:21] lol [16:21] Camarade_Tux: heh, what's what i used... but i'm gonna look at other wms [16:21] Chri2048 (n=chris@adsl-83-100-141-23.karoo.KCOM.COM) left ##slackware. [16:21] openbox is good [16:21] clean, and actually looks nice [16:21] Camarade_Tux: yeah gonna give it another try it's been a long time [16:21] Camarade_Tux: ehehe!! tomorrow I'll drink a lot, because of the F1!! [16:21] :) [16:22] Camarade_Tux: what terminal emulator do you use ? [16:23] deco: xterm, might use urxvt for its client and daemon capabilities [16:23] gar0t0: he, but don't wait for special occasions, drink everyday :D [16:23] Someone has a kde addiction? There's help for that you know. :P [16:23] Camarade_Tux: I drink everyday too :) [16:24] Camarade_Tux: buuuut, tomorrow Rubens Barrichello win in Brazil \o/ [16:24] tomorrow no, on Sunday :D [16:24] fire|bird: :) howdy [16:24] hi gar0t0, how's it going? [16:24] stickyboy (n=hugo@196.202.207.122) joined ##slackware. [16:24] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.21.188) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:25] Goodbye, Arch. Hello, Slackware. [16:25] fire|bird: I'm fine ty [16:25] ruben23 (n=RPL@122.55.48.243) joined ##slackware. [16:25] stickyboy: that's the spirit :D [16:25] gar0t0: yeah, one more day to wait ;-) [16:26] stickyboy: welcome :) [16:26] Solid. [16:26] hi ayone tried ghost4linux [16:26] I thought arch was t3h leet, though [16:26] fire|bird: help is pointless.Far too late for that ;) [16:26] i would like to image my slackware server [16:26] ruben23: It's lame. Clonezilla or Systemrescuecd have better tools I think. [16:27] ruben23: tar / rsync [16:27] thrice`: Meh. It's nice I guess. I want something more stable. [16:27] I'd use dd but that's just me [16:27] dd = epic slow [16:27] pprkut: haha. kde4 is awesome, I'll certainly admit that, 4.3.x especially. However, I've been using xfce for the past week without switching to kde at all. :P [16:28] Zordrak: yeah ;p [16:28] pprkut: out of curiosity's sake, what's got you addicted? :P [16:28] I have had good luck with backing up my desktops with dar... [16:28] Zordrak: might be faster than wondering what to use however ;) [16:28] Camarade_Tux: not faster than just using tar or rsync [16:28] stickyboy: it will do cloning exact copy of system..? [16:28] Camarade_Tux: you could do both four times while dd runs [16:29] scuzz (n=scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [16:29] Zordrak: I didn't mention it but tar would be what I need more often than dd would [16:29] ruben23: Yeah, but it's a bit of a pain in the ass to configure. [16:29] cp -a is good too actually. [16:29] stickyboy: fail [16:30] Nick change: panzer -> Panzer [16:30] stickyboy: rsync exists for a reason [16:30] fire|bird: actually I really like Qt, and apart from kde there's no real DE alternative out there based on it. Gtk+ makes me sick. [16:30] you to try unison? :D [16:30] Zordrak: can rsync do cloning exact system..? [16:30] I kinda like gtk UIs but gnome just sucks and kde looks really nice [16:30] Zordrak: cp -a is great... until it fails halfway. haha! [16:30] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Connection timed out [16:31] stickyboy: uhh yeah.. and how about failing to handle device files etc [16:32] Zordrak: That's what udev is for :). I never backup /dev [16:32] cp -a is just pointless [16:32] theres no reason for it to exist [16:32] (unless rsyng is not installed) [16:33] I would in fact recommend alias cp=rsync [16:33] I've found a lot of good uses for rsync lately, I have to admit. [16:33] Action: alienBOB uses cp -a quite a lot... less characters than rsync -av [16:33] wubbster (n=wubbster@24.206.157.137) joined ##slackware. [16:33] alienBOB: ^^ alias ftw :) [16:33] hahah alienBOB I just used your USB thingy. [16:33] Action: rg3 workships cp -a [16:34] rsync is good for incremental copies. Otehrwise, cp -ia is good enough for me in many cases [16:35] alienBOB: while you're here.. did you know about the openldap-client source brokenage in 13.0? [16:35] maybe cp -ai will provide INTELLIGENT copying [16:35] meatbun (n=meatbun3@cpe-98-155-141-248.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:35] is splitting konsole easy? http://www.robertknight.me.uk/files/kde/konsole-split-view-2.png [16:36] well, good night all :) [16:36] scuzz (n=scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [16:37] Zordrak: I only built the 64-bit openldap-client so I have no idea what happened to the 32-bit script. [16:37] they both fail the same [16:37] is splitting konsole easy? http://www.robertknight.me.uk/files/kde/konsole-split-view-2.png [16:37] That would be strange. The SlackBuild as in the source tree is _exactly_ the one used to build the package [16:38] I have a private revision control of all SlackBuilds and there were no significant changes from the version I used when I created slackware64 [16:38] Pat's response is that the package was last compiled over a year ago and that its probably a change to gcc since that beuld was done that means it no longer succeeds [16:38] That could be a reason. [16:38] *build [16:39] makes sense given the nature of the error [16:39] The openldap 64bit package was built much more recently though [16:39] hm [16:39] well.. feel free to duplicate [16:39] alphad64 (n=alphad64@213.136.96.104) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [16:39] any fresh 64-13.0, cd source/n/openldap-client;./*.SlackBuild [16:40] fails a short way into the make [16:40] Next update of the package perhaps, not now [16:40] indeed.. just making sure people are aware [16:41] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:41] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [16:41] bradhex (n=chris@c-98-193-248-168.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:43] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:43] suauth's "Password authentication bypassed." scares me each time I see it [16:44] Action: Zordrak needs to implement suauth Papal Blessing authentication [16:44] Camarade_Tux: I'm waiting still... [16:45] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [16:46] deco: I'll be in bed in a minute ;) [16:48] Camarade_Tux: \o/ [16:48] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: "That's my story, and I'm sticking to it." [16:49] THIS is why i hate CentOS [16:49] FULL install with all 7 CDs fails: [16:49] There was an error running your transaction, for the following reason(s): file conflicts. [16:49] Only button available: Reboot [16:50] fscking yay(!) [16:50] fire|bird, the other day, you posted an XFCE SS, which I thought had only the icons in the taskbar, and no text. is that a plugin or something? [16:52] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: "leaving" [16:54] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]" [16:54] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:54] how to launch screen with 4 shells opened [16:54] delt0r (n=delt0r@62.47.141.75) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [16:55] where the hell is jeev? >.> [16:55] My USB installer seems to have forgotten to install X. I've install xorg but I assume I'm missing some stuff; is there a way to *really* install Xorg? [16:55] i don't think you can do a full install with the USB installer [16:55] i think you're supposed to install enough to slackpkg everything else [16:56] Necos: Well, kinda... I used alienBOB's, which copies as much from the CD as will fit on your flash. [16:56] But I can't even find X on my CD come to mention it... [16:57] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.19.136) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [16:58] I installed xorg-server and a few related packages using slackpkg, but I'm tired now, and I don't want to miss anything. [16:58] I guess I'll go poke around "x" on a mirror. [16:58] thrice`: yeah, it's called Icon Box. It'll just use icons for open windows, instead of the window list which shows icon and text. [16:58] you probably got the wrong cd :) [16:59] Necos: Tell me about it. [16:59] i'm going to install OS X in vmware... i must be crazy :) [16:59] o_O [16:59] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:59] i'm going to install slackware on slackware with slackware in vmware on slackware [16:59] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [17:00] slack + vmware + os x [17:00] Necos: slackware-13.0-install-d1.iso [17:00] X is on disc 2 i thought [17:00] i always get the dvd, though [17:00] Shit. [17:01] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-11.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:01] Well you're right, cuz I just loop mounted my ISO and there's no X ;) [17:01] haha [17:01] disc 1 is usually, a/ap/d/n/l and maybe k [17:02] I was lazy and you see where it got me? [17:02] exactly where you belong :) [17:02] you're not slackin right [17:02] I live in Africa, bandwidth is slow and expensive. :) [17:03] slow and expensive doesn't mean you get lazy and haphazard :) [17:03] I needed a fix, man! [17:04] delt0r (n=delt0r@62-47-133-30.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [17:05] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:05] meatbun (n=meatbun3@cpe-98-155-141-248.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:05] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-111-204.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:08] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "leaving" [17:10] paul424 (i=1000@156.17.163.223) joined ##slackware. [17:11] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "Leaving." [17:11] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:11] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [17:12] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:12] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:12] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) joined ##slackware. [17:13] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.81.227) joined ##slackware. [17:14] hmmmm vim's syntax highlighting looks really dark in xfce's terminal [17:14] and really nice and bright in kde's konsole hmmmmm [17:15] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@198.82.19.251) left irc: "Leaving." [17:15] rubick (n=rc@unaffiliated/rubick) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:15] Paz (n=Paz@adsl-70-233-135-117.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:17] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-111-204.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:18] there fixed it [17:19] xfce's terminal by default only provides dark colors to programs [17:19] i just made them brighter [17:20] nice and bright syntax highlighting [17:20] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-175-140.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:20] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:28] uva (i=bno@118-168-238-45.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:29] uva_ (i=bno@118-160-166-250.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:29] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [17:33] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [17:33] dios_mio (n=test@88.236.177.179) joined ##slackware. [17:34] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Client Quit [17:38] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [17:38] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65210bb.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [17:40] hey, have anybody noticed that the versions of media players audacious or amarok which comes with slackware 13 don't scrobble to last.fm ? it's like the last.fm api has changed or what [17:40] Which package does `startx` come from? [17:41] stickyboy: xinit [17:41] morning people... [17:41] sloinn: you mean amazon api , amarok uses amazon [17:41] sloinn: amazon changed so we got screwed [17:41] hey superstitions|averting [17:42] sloinn: they are gonna use last.fm in the next release [17:42] err, Urchlay [17:42] amazon api ? and audacious ? [17:42] hey, searingly|breacher [17:42] sloinn: dunno about audaciouis but amarok uses amaxon [17:42] haha [17:42] amazon* [17:42] so is it like amarok - amazon - last.fm ? [17:43] Urchlay: Grrrreat. [17:43] sloinn: amarok uses amazon's api, amazon changed it now in the next release amarok will use last.fm [17:43] retsudo (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:43] sloinn: waite what are you talking about ? album art ? [17:44] I don't know about any connection between amazon and last.fm....I [17:44] bye [17:44] No, scrobbling to last.fm [17:44] sloinn: deco is thinking of something else. [17:44] fire|bird: yeah oooops didn't see that [17:44] deco: scrobbling data about song listened to last.fm [17:44] PiterPun1 (n=piterpk@216.23.247.74) joined ##slackware. [17:44] sloinn: yeah thought about album art , nvm carry on [17:44] deco = fail [17:45] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-225-231.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:45] fire|bird: get a balloon and get lost [17:45] hahaha [17:45] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-166-99.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:45] PiterPunk (n=piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:46] sloinn: Does it give any errors or anything or what is happening? [17:46] nope, nothing even in the verbose / debug mode [17:46] fire|bird, cool, thanks :) was trying to sort through extras a couple days ago, and couldn't find anythin [17:46] It's just not showing on last.fm sloinn? [17:46] thrice`: you're welcome [17:47] It's sort of an odd name, I passed over it a few times myself. [17:47] it's in goodies? [17:48] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:48] aah, ok, 4.2.4 is the latest? I was searching for a 4.6.x :) [17:48] e01_ (n=OSCorp01@213.169.52.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:48] e01 (n=OSCorp01@213.169.52.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:48] stickyboy: eh, what are you trying to do again? [17:49] Urchlay: *grumble*. My CD didn't have x, so now I'm doing it manually. [17:49] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [17:49] Via slackpkg. [17:50] using slackpkg isn't what I think of as manual (using wget and installpkg would be manual, to me) [17:50] Sadist. [17:50] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.12.209) joined ##slackware. [17:50] the true masochist says "hurt me!" and the true sadist answers "no!" [17:50] lol [17:51] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:51] Question: Xorg uses evdev now... does that mean I don't need keyboard, synaptics, etc packages? [17:51] (and then configure input policies for hal?) [17:51] stickyboy, synaptics still if you have a synaptics touchpad [17:51] mouse and keyboard CAN be used, but hal will use evdev for mouse and keyboard input [17:52] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@79.51.68.162) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [17:52] hm, any advantage (or disadvantage) to using evdev for mouse/keyboard, on a system with a standard mouse (not even a scroll wheel on it) [17:53] ? [17:53] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) left irc: "caindo fora!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" [17:53] e01 (n=OSCorp01@213.169.52.50) joined ##slackware. [17:54] well, i just found out they're shutting down the power in 10 minutes, so i gotta shut stuff down [17:54] firedix (n=firedix@host195.201-252-177.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:54] Necos, you're alive [17:54] didn't you get my BBM messages? [17:54] Necos: what a great announcement. :/ [17:54] yea i did [17:54] yeah, fun stuff, ne? [17:55] anyways, i'll probably be back in a few... i'm gonna go to starbucks and hang out for an hr while they switch out the generators [17:55] peace! [17:55] heh [17:56] paul424 (i=1000@156.17.163.223) left irc: Connection reset by peer [17:57] starbucks, awesome [17:57] Don't they charge you just to hang out there now? ;P [17:58] no [17:58] they never did [17:58] only if you buy their shitty coffee [17:59] thrice`: It's not *that* bad. :P [17:59] that's why you mix in all the poisons [17:59] to make it taste good [17:59] thrice`: They use Tazo tea which is really good. [17:59] The problem is they mark it up at least 250% [17:59] the VIA thing aint bad [18:00] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:539) left irc: "Leaving" [18:03] evdev is pretty cool. It lets you be lazy about configuring X [18:03] fizzle (n=fizzle@nc-76-6-0-145.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [18:03] hey guys i just installed slack 13, and noticed that fbsetbg is broken. it keeps giving me a segfault saying a file is missing. [18:04] mikinanuq (n=mikinanu@71-215-83-66.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:04] fizzle (n=fizzle@nc-76-6-0-145.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:04] which file? [18:04] fizzle (n=fizzle@nc-76-6-0-145.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [18:04] we're supposed to guess [18:05] fizzle: which file? [18:05] that's what the cat in the hat said [18:05] likely "shared library from package I skipped?" [18:05] sorry one sec [18:05] sure, we can wait [18:05] Action: godling sits on the edge of his seat [18:05] Could not open domain file /home/fizzle/GNUstep/Defaults/WindowMaker [18:06] What is the entire fsetbg command you used? [18:06] fbsetbg [18:06] just fbsetbg [18:07] man fbsetbg, you can't just specify a directory without telling fbsetbg that it's a directory. It fails because you didn't direct it to a single image. [18:08] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-111-204.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [18:08] it might be segfaulting for some other reason, iirc that's just a warning message [18:08] its segfaulting because its missing a file :/ [18:08] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:08] but I haven't used fluxbox for years [18:08] as far as directing it to a single image, i cd'ed into the images folder then just used fbsetbg file.jpg [18:09] fizzle: so if you know for sure what the problem is, then why don't you fix it? [18:09] fizzle: and did a single image work? [18:11] fizzle: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.fluxbox.user/2286 [18:11] fizzle: this person created the file in the warning message and it didn't help [18:11] wait, n/m [18:11] screw it [18:12] that's what she said [18:12] [before I shot her in the face] [18:12] [ ouch ] [18:12] toytoy (n=dindin@222.127.248.89) joined ##slackware. [18:14] :P [18:15] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:16] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [18:17] What WM uses fbsetbg? [18:17] you can use fbsetbg with any wm [18:17] it's sort of universal, you can use it with fluxbox, openbox, pekwm, etc. [18:18] fire|bird: too slow [18:18] I typed more [18:18] fire|bird: that's bad [18:18] why? [18:18] He also used punctuation, deco. [18:18] dios_mio (n=test@88.236.177.179) left irc: "leaving" [18:18] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:18] fire|bird: you will know soon .... [18:19] where is the directory with packages ? for pkgtool [18:19] sloinn: ftp.slackware.com [18:19] I mean in filesystem [18:19] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.81.227) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:19] oh hmmm [18:19] /var/log/packages [18:19] the built-in [18:19] ^^ [18:21] but after I deleted amarok, there is no package in there [18:21] ...... [18:21] *removed [18:21] to install it again [18:21] sloinn: Then you'll have to grab amarok from a mirror. [18:21] no, wait. [18:21] slackpkg install amarok [18:22] fire|bird: if he even has that setup :P [18:22] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.128.11) joined ##slackware. [18:22] It's not like it's hard, choose a repo in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors, then run slackpkg update and then slackpkg install amarok [18:22] hello happy slackers [18:22] y0 LnxSlck [18:22] grazymax (n=grazymax@host254-4-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:22] LnxSlck: i'm not happy [18:22] :/ [18:23] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.23.218) joined ##slackware. [18:23] deco, why not [18:23] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.19.10) joined ##slackware. [18:23] hello fire|bird [18:23] LnxSlck: life .... [18:23] LnxSlck: How are you? [18:23] deco, what about it? [18:23] fire|bird, fine and you? [18:23] LnxSlck: great, thank you. [18:24] =) [18:24] for some reason when that guy asked about pkgtool I saw pkg-config [18:24] I must be retarded. [18:24] lol [18:24] you just found out ... [18:24] :? [18:24] :( [18:24] deco, tell me more [18:24] LnxSlck: hmmmm life is hard that's it ok! let me go :( [18:25] Action: deco listens to gothic power metal aka kamelot [18:25] deco, if life gives you a lemmon make lemonnade [18:25] LnxSlck: i did and got in trouble.... [18:25] :O [18:25] #SlackOfftopic ? [18:26] or just /msg ? [18:26] deco, there's always solution.... install a new slackware [18:26] i got a yellow card :( [18:26] I think he meant *actual* lemonade... it's not a code word for something else... [18:26] lol [18:26] LnxSlck: do the current mirrors have thinks like 3rd party packages ? [18:26] deco, that will keep your mind of things [18:26] LnxSlck: k [18:26] sloinn, dont think so [18:26] Action: deco hides in the darkness [18:26] sloinn: no [18:26] deco, darkness is good [18:26] sloinn: That doesn't make sense, so no. :) [18:27] LnxSlck: but it makes you weak too.... ok enough [18:27] Action: deco goes back to read [18:27] deco has got to be 15ish [18:27] If even that [18:27] sickos [18:28] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) left irc: "I was raided by the FBI and all I got to keep was this lousy quit message!" [18:28] then again I know a guy who is sort of spastic like that and he's like 22 [18:28] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:28] fizzle (n=fizzle@nc-76-6-0-145.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:29] How long has evdev been a part of X.org? [18:29] hech, I just found hidden perl script on one of my servers giving me access to botnet of 300 servers :) [18:29] stickyboy (n=hugo@196.202.207.122) left irc: "leaving" [18:30] RobDob: Hey Robby; good to see you on IRC :) [18:30] If god gives you lemons, its time to get a new god. [18:30] I never give myself lemons. [18:30] Sounds like an excuse for a party. [18:31] if life gives you a hole in a girl, put it in? [18:31] sloinn: that probably isn't as good as you think it is. [18:31] jeev, yes [18:32] Indeed. :) [18:32] i always loved backdors [18:32] backdoors even [18:33] lol [18:33] Why are guys so sleazy? [18:33] godling, because they're guys [18:33] it's in our dna code [18:33] godling: is weird [18:33] which makes me think... [18:33] nvm [18:34] I wasn't making a judgment call about it, I was just wondering why. [18:34] ..... [18:34] the chemicals in their brain, and lack of self control. [18:35] godling, why are you so gay [18:35] i'm not sleazy but i know why they're sleezy or however you spell it [18:35] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.22.42) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:35] You had the correct spelling when you were imitating mine. [18:35] :) [18:36] the point is guys think with their dick, their dick's brain is bigger than theirs when it comes to girls [18:36] Wait, why am I talking to jeev? [18:36] cause i'm awesome [18:36] You're like HPV. [18:37] godling: may I reiterate this line in response to that: 1722 godling> I must be retarded. [18:37] :P [18:37] Yes. It does stand to reason, fire|bird. [18:37] jeev is exactly like HPV he's everywhere and no one wants him. lol [18:37] haha [18:38] heh [18:39] spider1010, you know you love me [18:39] Nobody can tell me how long evdev has been in X.org? [18:41] godling: at least January of 2006 [18:41] xf86-input-evdev-1.0.0.5.tar.bz2 212 KB 01/18/2006 12:00:00 AM [18:42] That doesn't indicate whether it was part of Slackware's Xorg implementation though [18:42] rworkman: I just found a forum posting from October of 2005. [18:42] hi how do i uninstall application install form source file.. [18:42] I am thinking of checking the repository commit dates [18:42] (the source repo I mean) [18:42] godling: that should work [18:42] ruben23: you mean you didn't use a slackbuld ? [18:43] build* [18:43] ruben23: sometimes (but not always) a make file will have an uninstall target [18:43] ruben23: if you're lucky, there's an "uninstall" target in the Makefile [18:43] ruben23: so typing make uninstall in the same directory you typed "make install" in will work [18:43] godling: ok ill try it [18:43] yes. yes i know. [18:43] *jeev [18:44] I can't, and I can't... [18:44] ruben23: it is not always the case though; you might have to find all the files manually and remove them. [18:44] And I can't stop this feeling anymore. [18:44] spider1010: will you kindly serenade jeev in private? :P [18:44] I've forgotten what I started fighting for. [18:45] Maybe. [18:45] I hate that part of the eighties. [18:45] godling: thanks ill try [18:46] ruben23: In the future try to use slackbuild files, that way you can easily uninstall [18:48] godling: you're right, the script gets connection to irc channel and accepts commands only from a specific IP...that's the problem [18:49] are you sure the problem isn't that your server was probably compromised to get that script on there in the first place? [18:50] godling is just jealous [18:50] I'm jealous of you jeev [18:50] godling: yes, some customer of ours had unsecure e-shop [18:51] sloinn: that is unfortunate [18:51] well, not unfortunate for you I guess [18:51] more work, etc [18:51] I'm glad I could see the script :) [18:51] someone from the NSA is recruiting at my school next week. [18:52] sloinn: Is the script itself interesting? [18:54] The NSA has some bad ass jobs. Check out the site. Really bad ass jobs and a local NSA school for all the training they want to give you. [18:55] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [18:55] haha "X is too difficult to get into for new developers, so thus the move to autotools, a system more people are comfortable with if not happy with. " [18:55] I wonder how many people are happy with that move [18:55] s/are/were/ [18:56] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-240-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: [18:58] I am. [18:58] autotools is a far sight better than that old imake crap. [18:59] oh, imake was in-house [19:00] that's usually not a good sign :) [19:00] those types of projects usually tend to be kludges at best [19:02] Well, there are some other comparably bad ones IMHO. Jam and Waf come to mind. [19:03] lest said about waf the better. :) [19:03] I'm fine with them existing, but it's damn annoying to have to install and use one of them - especially when they're utterly useless otherwise [19:03] Waf should be called Wafu. [19:04] man git is so awesome [19:04] Or maybe it's just "What A Failure" [19:05] I never used Jam, but I remember bjam with boost [19:05] godling: git is pretty nice :) [19:07] whoa [19:07] gitk is cool too [19:08] ..... [19:08] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) joined ##slackware. [19:08] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [19:08] Date: Wed Jan 12 20:15:52 2005 +0000 [19:08] "Add new evdev input driver." [19:10] that was surprisingly easy to find [19:11] spider1010: The thing about me and the NSA is that I am not sure I'm happy enough with the government to work for NSA. [19:11] LnxSlck_ (i=1000@89.214.149.87) joined ##slackware. [19:12] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.19.10) left irc: "Leaving." [19:12] LnxSlck_ (i=1000@89.214.149.87) left irc: Client Quit [19:12] LnxSlck_ (i=1000@89.214.149.87) joined ##slackware. [19:13] or that I could be happy working in a government shop. [19:13] vantech (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [19:13] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:13] evdev has been around for awhile, but I don't think it's supported all mouse/keyboard stuff since then [19:14] Well you can't change anything by doing nothing. You put time in and work your way up, you can help change things. Besides the government may be messing up sometimes but the NSA is just like the military in a way. Lots of them are retired military and they just want to protect their country. [19:15] gnubien (n=e@58.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:15] yes, protect their country by spying on it [19:15] ;P [19:17] well how else do you expect them to find the people out to do damage to in that have already made their way into the country. Or for that matter the crazy people that were born here and still want to kill their own countrymen. [19:18] door-to-door solicitation? [19:18] ;P [19:19] What's a good way to setup VMWare to start on boot? It's seems the SystemV scripts don't work for some reason. [19:19] godling: ???? [19:20] twajs [19:22] spider1010: There are other ways to suss people like that out. [19:22] godling: ???? (I have not chatted online in years and only started back (just for slackware) about 2 weeks ago) [19:22] Shingoshi (n=shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:22] "that was a joke, son" [19:23] Should I just add "/etc/init.d/vmware start" in my rc.local? Or tweak rc.sysvinit? [19:23] Well I'm going to let the people that have been doing that for a long time do that. I think that we need people in there with new good ideas and they do too. It is those same ideas that change the why they do things. [19:23] silent_contender: it's always better to throw stuff in rc.local [19:24] godling, so don't bother getting the systemV script to work? [19:24] yea use rc.local [19:24] I wouldn't, silent_contender. [19:24] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.128.11) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:24] Shingoshi (n=shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:24] but that's just me. in the end just find something that works. :) [19:24] Ok. Just wondering what's the better method (this time easy is better) [19:25] for example I have in my rc.local some stuff about rc.vboxdrv [19:25] to start the vbox drivers on startup [19:25] s/start/load/ [19:25] godling, I had vbox switched to vmware though. Trying to follow some tutorials. [19:27] I don't think there is a major difference in the general startup procedure; all you should be doing at this stage is loading modules and such [19:27] unless it's doing something completely different, then the rc.local approach should work fine [19:27] godling, I don't think so either. I can just run "./etc/rc.d/init.d/vmware start" after boot without problems. So I'm sure it'll work. [19:29] thrice`: I was just wondering how long evdev had been around without me knowing about it [19:30] heret|c (n=heretic@c-68-32-70-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:30] spider1010: there are probably too many paranoid military types in the NSA for me to be happy working there. [19:30] spider1010: it is good for things to change but it is difficult to change an institution when the "old guard" is firmly entrenched. [19:32] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:33] interesting opinion [19:34] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:36] found why my sound card wasn't working, I'd disabled it in the bios options. [19:36] d'oh [19:36] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) joined ##slackware. [19:37] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpkinmJtG2c [19:37] giving that machine away tomorrow. I'll miss it. first computer I ever bought. [19:38] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@24.57.84.192) joined ##slackware. [19:38] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:42] parting is such sweet sorrow [19:42] spider1010: do you disagree? [19:43] deco: dude [19:46] ..... [19:46] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:47] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:49] well my neighbour is much more rational than i give him credit for. [19:50] has he called the cops on you, then? [19:50] i didn't even need to punch him the fuck out for continuing to put the reticulation on at 5am for half an hour [19:51] we simply sat down and discussed how he was going to change the sprinklers to run at 9:30pm instead or his prize roses would not have to worry about becoming moldy ever again. [19:52] however now i have had less than 5 hours sleep [19:52] whose fault is that? [19:52] ;P [19:52] he should leave a black rose on your pillow - to send a clear message [19:53] godling: his, the motherfucker. [19:53] i think the hangover and me being sick has to do with the restraint on my part. [19:54] lack of restraint, you mean? [19:54] if you have a hangover you were plastered, that does not show restraint. :P [19:55] it's interesting you were reasonable while drunk, though. [19:55] i'm not drunk at the moment [19:55] at least, not impaired judgement [19:55] were you at the time of the discussion? [19:55] i'm sure my blood is full of alcohol, but thats just my unique physiology [19:55] no it was only 15 minutes ago. [19:56] oh, that's cool [19:56] it's awesome that you intimidate your neighbor, though. that's real neighborly. [19:56] :) [19:56] lol [19:56] well this has been a point of contention for the last three years [19:56] I can imagine. [19:57] hes more than happy to change it to run at night. [19:57] I wonder what would have happened if you asked him three years ago. [19:57] but the second it comes round to summer again, he sets it to the morning. [19:57] and i've run out of paitence [19:57] godling: i did ask him 3 years ago [19:57] and 2 years ago [19:57] and 1 year ago [19:57] every time hes changed it [19:58] then changed it back every summer [19:58] Maybe he's got the summer schedule different and doesn't know how to reprogram it? [19:58] some people are pretty thick [19:58] no he knows exactly how to change it, i just watched him press 3 buttons and change it without looking. [19:59] so maybe he's doing it on purpose [19:59] and hence the threat. [19:59] if you stab him and he bleeds, he is lying [19:59] it should insure uninterupted sleep for the rest of the summer [20:00] otherwise his roses will have uninterupted sleep. [20:00] Not to mention a wonderful relationship with the neighbor. [20:00] i mean, technically i own a third of the roses, so i can legally to do what i want with my third. [20:00] Does the neighbor have a wife? [20:01] yes [20:01] hes whipped. [20:01] fuck what day is it [20:01] You live in the suburbs? [20:01] spook: the first day of the rest of your life [20:01] yup [20:01] Suburban politics are scary. [20:01] I hate the suburbs. [20:01] its a saturday [20:02] thank you date [20:02] exommm30 (n=onno@82-169-230-208.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [20:02] It's Friday. [20:02] Action: godling points to the clock [20:02] helping disorrientated drunk people since... [20:02] heh [20:02] ohhh in that case i need some clock watchers [20:02] Sat Oct 17 08:02:51 WST 2009 [20:03] spook: since January 1, 1970 [20:03] godling: was that when it was written? [20:03] did C exist back then? [20:04] at the time you all will be reading this i will be nothing then dust in a graveyard [20:04] POSIX time is the number of seconds passed since January 1, 1970 [20:04] lol [20:04] spook: C existed as early as 1972 [20:04] C is old. [20:05] godling: hurrr, i know the unix epoch. [20:05] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-176-085.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [20:05] spook: then why didn't you connect the dots? :P [20:05] but when was this incarnation of the date program written [20:06] godling: it could hardly be the same date program if C wasnt invented until 2 years after that date [20:06] the specific utility you are using? I don't know, check the versioning information :P [20:06] Written by David MacKenzie. [20:06] date (GNU coreutils) 7.4 [20:06] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-237-223.dsl.scarlet.be) joined ##slackware. [20:07] now google that information and you might find the date that date was written [20:07] i require ibuprofen to continue this discussion [20:07] please deposit 30mg [20:07] exommm30 (n=onno@82-169-230-208.ip.telfort.nl) left ##slackware. [20:07] spook: you need a drink. you don't deserve this kind of abuse from anyone except your mother. [20:08] 30mg is sort of a wimpy dosage of ibuprofen [20:08] i wasnt sure, how about 200mg [20:08] that's more standard [20:08] I have 800mg tablets here. [20:09] Those are prescription-strength. [20:09] brb chemist [20:09] If you're drinking then you should not use ibuprofen, spook [20:09] where are my dark glasses [20:09] not unless you like holes in your digestive tract [20:10] no, if i'm drinking, i should not be using paracetamol [20:10] spook: neither [20:10] whats the alternative? [20:10] agreed. don't mix pain killers and alcohol. [20:10] spook: it's drinking or pain killers [20:10] make love not war ...... [20:10] spook: not one or the other [20:10] er [20:10] s/not// [20:11] stick to booze if you're lit up atm [20:11] right now i have the beginnings of an epic headache, after only 4 hours sleep [20:12] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:12] consult your physician [20:12] spook: I get that, but, the pain killers could kill you. [20:13] that's probably what he's going for [20:13] :P [20:13] ..... [20:13] self-destructive spiral and all that [20:13] Action: thrice` wants to break deco's period button [20:13] lol [20:13] thrice`: ++ [20:13] y0 hitest [20:13] It might be easier to break deco's fingers. [20:13] hi fire|bird:) [20:14] evening. [20:14] wtf, why am i even listening to you fags [20:14] Action: hitest sighs [20:14] by fags you mean godling ? [20:14] .... [20:14] howdy BP{k} [20:14] pretty much yeah [20:14] spook: don't take my word for it, ask the chemist when you get there [20:14] k [20:14] dumbass [20:14] fire|bird: ohla :) [20:14] godling: the chemist will do what i tell them [20:15] thrice`: i have two keyboards... and yes i sometimes yes them at the same time... [20:15] I don't think the chemist would give you prescription drugs without a prescription. [20:15] use * [20:15] godling: they arent prescription. [20:15] You just said the chemist would do what you told them to do. [20:15] opiates are. [20:15] I was disproving your statement. [20:15] :) [20:16] no, you were being a nazi. [20:16] No, I'm screwing with someone who is hungover. :P [20:17] 'pharmacist' :) [20:18] ananke: They call them chemists in uncivilized countries. [20:18] ananke: they answer to chemist [20:18] man the cat in the hat movie is epic [20:18] does "epic" have some meaning? [20:18] only one of them is usually has a degree in pharmachology or whatever its called [20:19] jeev: did you bring your beating stick ? thrice` wants it [20:19] spook: the pharmacists i know never referred to themselves as chemists [20:19] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [20:19] deco, epic reply dude................................................. [20:20] well, pharmacists are chemists, but not all chemists are pharmacists :) [20:20] ananke: well, not everyone who works at the chemist is a phramacist [20:20] spook: not sure what you mean by 'at the chemist' [20:21] getting drugs [20:21] its a 8-8 7 day chemist [20:21] the sign says chemist, though the chain is called something something pharmacies [20:23] No Google results for "something something pharmacies". [20:23] Action: godling stabs spook first [20:23] Action: godling runs away [20:23] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:24] amcal [20:24] and fuck you [20:30] *poof* [20:30] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [20:30] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:457) joined ##slackware. [20:32] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:36] and deco called me gay [20:36] heh [20:38] slackaholic (i=1000@187-24-238-115.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:38] slackaholic (i=1000@187-24-238-115.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [20:39] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:40] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-240-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:44] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:44] greetings and salutations [20:45] greetings andarius, how are you? [20:46] wotcha andarius :) [20:49] LnxSlck_ (i=1000@89.214.149.87) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:49] LnxSlck_ (i=1000@89.214.5.231) joined ##slackware. [20:50] fire|bird, i'm wondering about this icon box; seems not heavily developered ;) [20:51] LnxSlck_ (i=1000@89.214.5.231) left irc: Client Quit [20:51] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-22-165.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:51] wotcha BP{k} :) [20:51] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:52] salutations fire|bird, well. you ? [20:52] well, i got 200mg x 96 for $13AUD [20:55] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:55] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:57] powtrix (n=powtrix@189.69.17.47) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [20:57] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [21:00] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:457) left irc: Connection timed out [21:01] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:02] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:04] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [21:08] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "Leaving" [21:11] andarius: I am good, thanks. [21:11] thrice`: no, probably not, but for me anyway, works well enough and saves some panel space. [21:11] I can't even find the tarballs anymore :( [21:14] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [21:17] You can't find the tarballs? Where were they that they're gone now? [21:17] thrice`: ^^ [21:17] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:17] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [21:18] not sure, I found them when you initially suggested it, but can't seem to any longer at home [21:31] firedix (n=firedix@host195.201-252-177.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [21:33] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:34] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:34] thrice`: find $DIR -iname *.tar [21:35] where $DIR is wherever you want to start looking [21:35] thanks, what should I set $DIR to for the internet? [21:35] oh, it's online [21:35] john_dee (n=id@93-81-139-76.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [21:35] :) [21:36] haha [21:36] thrice`: site:whatever.com filetype:tar [21:36] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [21:36] on google [21:36] fire|bird, 4.2.x tarballs are all I've located [21:36] or tar.gz if it's gzipped too [21:37] hrm, maybe that won't work [21:37] tarballs for? [21:37] xfce4-iconbar . fire|bird had a screenshot recently [21:38] share ? [21:38] just search the internet with a spider program [21:38] it should take a while [21:39] but you'll get it before 2100 [21:39] year 2100 [21:40] thrice`: icon box, and googling, starting with 4.4, it should be there already without needing to install it or anything. So, right click the panel, Add New Items, and look for Icon Box. [21:41] omg! [21:41] Is it there? [21:41] i thought it was something external [21:41] lol, no wonder [21:42] Action: andarius is waiting for this screen shot :( [21:42] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:42] sloinn (i=5ef14741@gateway/web/freenode/x-yxkxaspujtpxgsjl) left irc: "Page closed" [21:43] thrice`: I found it via Google code search and traced it back to the xfce website [21:43] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:43] I can't find it for the most recent xfce version [21:43] thrice`: Sorry if I didn't specify earlier today what exactly it was. My apologies. :P [21:43] andarius: Let me find that ss, sec. [21:44] I feel retarded, sorry for the noise :) [21:44] get used to it [21:45] stfu, etc [21:45] rotfl, and shirt like that [21:45] thrice`: it seems to be referenced as ExoIconBar [21:45] er wait [21:45] sorry, that is something different [21:46] andarius: http://omploader.org/vMmp1aA <---Icon Box replaces Window List, so it just shows icons for open apps, instead of icon + text. [21:47] fire|bird: i know what it is. just not heard of it in a while and wanted to see what started the fuss ;) [21:47] thanks [21:48] you're welcome [21:48] What started the fuss is thrice` couldn't find it. :P [21:48] Action: fire|bird runs [21:48] too true [21:48] thrice` is a n00b [21:48] http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.1.99.2/src/xfce4-iconbox-4.1.99.2.tar.gz [21:49] godling, /var/log/packages/xfce-4.6.1-x86_64-5:usr/lib64/xfce4/panel-plugins/libiconbox.la [21:49] nice, xfce has a goodie now called gigolo. :P [21:50] thrice`: that might explain why the separate package isn't available in versions greater than 4.1.99.2. [21:50] Google code search is really cool, though. [21:50] eventually Google will have mapped out all information and nothing will be private [21:51] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-83-181.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:51] fire|bird: what does it do? [21:51] nevermind, I am reading about it [21:52] ok :P [21:52] "Why is it called Gigolo?" "Because it mounts what it's told to." [21:52] hah [21:52] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] it's a separate app? [21:53] why not integrate it in thunar? [21:53] yo [21:53] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) joined ##slackware. [21:53] yeah, separate app, maybe it will get thunar integration down the road. [21:53] y0 mfillpot [21:54] I came up with an issue today that I couldn't figure out, hopefully you guys can help [21:54] 42 [21:54] mfillpot: Yes, you're supposed to get hair down there. [21:55] fire|bird: it makes sense to make sure it works separately first, though. [21:55] Why when a driver is accepted by ndiswrapper and the module has been passed via -m would the interface not show up on the system? [21:55] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-mcntvevziwixufez) joined ##slackware. [21:55] yeah, could be quite nice though once it's been tested more, etc. [21:56] hello happy people [21:56] fire|bird: hi [21:56] maybe that's what they did with the iconbox? [21:56] hi nyRednek [21:56] Nick change: EasyTUX -> CallMe_JC [21:56] as if fire|bird were not one of the happy people ;P [21:56] godling: probably [21:56] haha [21:56] does anyone have any ideas? [21:56] godling: fire|bird is one of they happiest ones here [21:57] I remember the iconbox, though; I used it. [21:57] i'm just waiting on the flexoril kick back in [21:57] nyRednek: rainbow happy or clown happy? [21:57] that was a long time ago when I had more than two panels [21:57] unicorn happy? [21:57] fire|bird, still on xfce, btw? [21:57] mfillpot: so happy he'll stab your ass [21:57] ah, unicorn happy [21:57] nyRednek: ah, clown happy [21:57] thrice`: yeah, messed with fvwm a bit, but back on xfce. [21:57] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "theres an app for that..." [21:57] Action: godling stabbs mfillpot with fire|bird's unicorn [21:58] *stabs [21:58] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:58] i'm just waiting for the flexoril to kick back in [21:59] thrice`: I sort of, um, made a bet with chopp that I could use xfce for a week without logging in to kde, so far, I've made it, no kde all week. :P [21:59] i slept better over past several hours than i have in a week [22:00] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:01] what are the stakes fire|bird? [22:01] fire|bird: i'm stll happy with fvwm [22:02] were can I find the location that all network interfaces are listed? [22:02] mesaGL (n=mesaGL@unaffiliated/mesagl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:02] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-63-3.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [22:02] godling: none, just a good ol "I bet you can't" "I bet I can" type bet. :P no stakes or anything. [22:04] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: "Leaving." [22:04] fire|bird: the best bet [22:05] fire|bird: That is often referred to as a "gentleman's wager". [22:05] nyRednek: yeah :) [22:05] godling: Well, whatever it's called, I've done well so far. :P [22:05] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:05] Just letting you know for future reference. [22:05] godling: thanks. :) [22:06] I wonder what the origins of the term is [22:06] s/origins/origin/ [22:06] Google probably knows. ;) [22:06] godling: probably the english gentry [22:06] possibly yes [22:06] stupid gentry [22:07] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [22:08] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [22:10] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:12] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: Client Quit [22:12] nNavii (n=duvaz@189.183.87.187) joined ##slackware. [22:13] Anyone got this Problem : In qemu with slack12 or zenwalk as guests when in X session, if I launch gnome-terminal (aka Terminal) it kills the X session !?... [22:14] gnome-terminal is not AKA Terminal. also, are you on slackware, or zenwalk? [22:14] both. [22:14] promise? [22:15] qemu is for that ! let's say zenwalk... [22:15] wrong answer [22:15] eh [22:15] after it kills X, what does the resulting TTY say? [22:16] but the host is slack13_64, eheh [22:17] humm, I check... But I can't browse back a lot cause in QEMU monitor window it don't work... [22:19] Humm, this time it freezed for good... Even qemu command mode (ctrl-alt-2) is unavailable... [22:19] what's the point of installing slackware in qemu, if the host is also slackware? [22:20] a test bed [22:20] Humm, slackware 12_32 guest in slack13_64 host, slightly different neh ? [22:20] ah, ok :) [22:22] Ctrl-alt-2 worked I do a sendkey ctrl-alt-f1... [22:22] raelakoira (i=1000@cpe-67-241-21-88.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:22] raela (i=1000@cpe-67-241-21-88.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:23] i never thought i'd keep a 'pain log' [22:23] oy [22:23] hi, i have a problem wen i try to eject my cdrom [22:23] HSigma (n=Hertz@201-68-168-241.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:24] nNavii: umount the disk first [22:24] Failed to eject "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_model_TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_SH_S202J". [22:24] Given device "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_model_TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_SH_S202J" is not a volume or drive. [22:24] i do it [22:24] vinegaroon (n=sam@203.184.32.196) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:24] try "lsof" on the drive [22:24] and change my fstab file [22:24] thrice`: It keeps freezed... => (qemu) system_powerdown“ [22:25] EasyTUX, without an error in the TTY console, it's tough to understand what is dying [22:25] nNavii: what /dev/ is it listed under when you run the mount command? [22:25] hi, I would to lieto now if anyone know where i could find a Skype tgz for Slackware 13.0 64bit [22:25] launching Terminal certainly doesn't freeze my slackware system, eg [22:25] *I would to like to know [22:25] hdb [22:26] skype doesn't produce a 64-bit binary [22:26] thrice`: It Freezes X display, not the whole system, hopefully... [22:26] there is some guide to install skype on slackware 64 bits? [22:27] HSigma: i'd suggest you use the static build [22:27] HSigma, you cannot install skype on 64 bit slackware as there is not 64 bit version of skype [22:28] the only way to make it work is to install the 32 bit compatibilty packages from alienbob and then install the static build [22:28] but without the 32bit packages, it will not work, not even the static build [22:29] ArTourter, nyRednek thanks xD [22:29] so what can i do? [22:29] nNavii: and what dir is it mounted to? [22:30] /media/cdrom [22:30] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [22:31] nNavii: have you tried just using the standard umount command on it? [22:31] yes [22:31] hmmm... [22:31] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: SendQ exceeded [22:32] looks like i need to save alien's stuff somewhere because some slackbuilds need the 32 bit stuff gone to build for 64 [22:32] nNavii: and have you tried turning off hal to see if you can force it to umount then? [22:32] Paz (n=Paz@adsl-70-233-135-117.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:32] mm if i try -l [22:32] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:33] a ok [22:34] nNavii: did it work with umount -l? [22:34] yes [22:35] the gst plugins are bad about wanting only a purelib, btw, from my experience [22:35] nNavii: then you taught me something, I've never had a need to look at the umount manual before, thank you [22:36] :) [22:36] yay I found kitten [22:37] godling: now throw it to the neighbor's dog [22:38] :( [22:41] fresh303 (n=fresh303@cpe-98-155-141-248.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:42] what is the name for &? like "xterm &" to get new xterm [22:42] what's is the techinical term for escaping it with & [22:43] anyone here have a suggestion for a wireless keyboard with an integrated touchpad? [22:43] thrice`: It's fine now... I've put 16bit colors and cirrus card => all is fine... Thanks. As in many times, when asking ideas come... [22:43] & = ampersand [22:43] i'm looking at http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=080&active_tab=systemRequirements but i'm not sure of the linux support for the touchpad feature [22:44] fire|bird, powershell in windows changed the meaing of ampersand. how to get the old function back? [22:45] I don't know. I've never used powershell [22:45] fresh303: You are aware this is ##Slackware and not ##Powershell? [22:47] troll hour [22:47] every hour is troll hour [22:48] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [22:50] .wii fresh303 [22:50] s/\./\// ;) [22:50] yep [22:50] ;) [22:50] Action: godling doesn't get it. [22:50] sed-fu [22:51] /wii [22:51] OH [22:51] Action: thrice` has weak sed fu [22:51] google-fu too [22:51] says who? [22:52] you couldn't find the xfce4-iconbox tarball earlier [22:52] I found it within a few minutes. [22:52] My Google-fu is not great, ergo yours must suck. :P [22:52] no, I couldn't find a current tarball, and now I understand why [22:53] excuses! [22:53] Action: godling sentences thrice` to the pit [22:53] the pit is closed for maintenane [22:53] stupid 'c' [22:54] maybe it's hiding behind the other one [22:54] kiyoura_ (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:56] Dominian: I think you may be the person to help with a question, what would stop and interface from appearing after a driver is successfully loaded with ndiswrapper? [22:57] ruben23 (n=RPL@122.55.48.243) left irc: "Leaving." [22:58] ndiswrapper -l shows it runnign? [22:58] Dominian: yes it did and /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper also reflected a loaded driver [22:59] I'm assuming its awireless card? [22:59] does ifconfig -a show anything? [23:00] Dominian: yes, it is a realtek rtl8192e [23:00] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.14/2009090217]" [23:00] dmesg | tail -n20 #? [23:00] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:01] Dominian: that is what was confusing me, the /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper states it should be register as wlan0, but ifconfig -a does not reflect it [23:01] Dominian: ifconfig shows eth0, lo and whatever the ppp interface is [23:01] and lsmod shows ndiswrapper is loaded? [23:02] Dominian: yes lsmod shows it as running [23:02] odd [23:02] Dominian: this is for a laptop I loaded with ubuntu that I don't have access to right now, but I thought you may have some ideas, I have been fighting with this for a week now [23:04] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:04] fresh303 (n=fresh303@cpe-98-155-141-248.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [23:04] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:05] Dominian: do you have any ideas what could be stopping the interface from appearing? I have use ndiswrapper many times, but this is just confusing me [23:06] what does /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog say about the ndiswrapper driver etc/ [23:06] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:06] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:06] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:06] Dominian: I don't quite remember, I will check them first when I get it back on monday [23:06] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:06] ok [23:07] Dominian: you have given me more than I had to work with, and if I don't find the issue myself would it be ok if I ring you again? [23:07] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] sure [23:07] :) [23:08] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: "just to eat" [23:08] thank again, I would have went to the ubuntu group about this, but past experiences have shown me that they are worthless [23:08] hah [23:08] mfillpot: lol [23:09] last time I went there for help with their distro I got no answer and ended up helping 6 people resolve their problems [23:09] peacedog (n=peacedog@pool-72-86-2-191.lyncva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] Nick change: peacedog -> peacedog_ [23:11] Nick change: peacedog_ -> peacedog_mobile [23:12] I idle in that channel a lot... [23:12] some of the stuff I see amazes me [23:13] it seems too cramped to get any work done [23:13] Nick change: peacedog_mobile -> peacedogmac [23:14] peacedogmac: choose a single name please, your infinite changes are annoying me [23:14] HSigma (n=Hertz@201-68-168-241.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [23:14] peacedogmac: and frankly we don't care about you or whatever you are doing. use a screensession and stick with one nick. [23:15] Nick change: peacedogmac -> peacedog [23:15] I'm done. [23:15] Just needed to update my alias's. [23:15] ;-) [23:15] you can do that while not joined to a channel [23:15] I usually do that when not logged into any channels [23:16] ok guys I'm out for the night, ttyl [23:16] Do you guys realy have nothing better to talk about tonight? [23:16] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [23:16] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:17] peacedog: well ... it's friday night, we're on irc and bitching .. does that answer your question? ;) [23:18] LOL, Didn't mean to annoy anyone. Didn't think it would be busy and needed to do some updates. ;-) [23:21] Anyone mess with cellphones much, custom ringers, etc.? Specifically Verizon's network? [23:29] peacedog (n=peacedog@pool-72-86-2-191.lyncva.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Peace out ;-)" [23:41] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-240-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:41] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-240-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:42] cellphones are always a convo-killer [23:43] retards, too [23:44] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [23:44] speaking of retards, I just downloaded Urban Terror (because getting shot in the head by a 13 year old Korean is awesome!). [23:46] dang, cs on q3 engine. that's perverted :\ [23:47] camlin (n=dhaivat@c-174-58-25-12.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:47] I am trying to get a good programming workstation going [23:47] And I can't decide between slacware and debian [23:47] camlin: slackware [23:47] camlin: Debian. [23:48] camlin, not sure the distrib makes a difference re: your criterion [23:48] well, [23:48] I want good man pages (which debian does not have) [23:48] camlin: you're asking in a slackware channel, what do you think the answer is mostly going to be. [23:48] camlin, don't start a flame war [23:48] camlin: gentoo [23:48] (and what BP{k} said) [23:49] camlin: always tought their packaging system is perfect for that [23:49] I say Debian because I want you to go away. [23:49] camlin: manpages are not something distro specific. Slackware does not have an army of barrled manpage writing monkeys sitting around. [23:49] If you're going to be flamebait [23:49] well, people on teh debian channel were mixed between slack and eb [23:49] okay, wait forget that question [23:49] its gonna start a flame war [23:50] and I don't wanna be part of it [23:50] you started it! [23:50] camlin: You haven't said anything in #debian. [23:50] camlin, it's a dumb question so you can't reasonably expect a smart answer. [23:50] So I'm guessing you trying to start a flame war for your own entertainment. [23:50] yes I have [23:50] camlin: I'm in #debian [23:50] under a different user [23:50] camlin: the best distro is the one that annoys you the least or the one that fits best with your way of thinking and working. [23:50] PoinPoinBot [23:50] aaaw crap [23:50] There's no user in that channel by that name [23:50] not anymore [23:51] Dominian: /whowas [23:51] camlin-- [23:51] godling: that doesn't concern me [23:51] camlin: my suggestion is .. try them both out .. and see for yourself. [23:51] camlin (n=dhaivat@c-174-58-25-12.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: ":Client quit" [23:51] even for a boring friday night, this is lame [23:51] my logs go back over 24 hours [23:51] mancha: isn't it just. [23:51] yes [23:51] I blame mancha. [23:52] mancha: prick. [23:53] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65210bb.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [23:53] Keep it civil godling [23:53] I wasn't serious, Dominian :P [23:54] "trying to inject levity"-fail [23:54] heh [23:54] sorry just bouncing around channels :) [23:54] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [23:54] you know what they call women who do that? [23:57] john_dee: CS? Was that comment about Urban Terror? [23:57] john_dee: from what I read it's supposed to blend stuff from lots of games [23:57] godling: yep [23:57] I saw some demos [23:58] people doing crazy stuff in it [23:58] like wall-jumping around an entire room to get to a window high up [23:58] hard to do that in first-person [00:00] --- Sat Oct 17 2009