[00:00] ... if i ever finish manage to fix the libtool bug that is :-/ [00:00] ltmain.sh is ~7k lines [00:00] Good luck with the libtool one. I looked at that, and I quickly decided that "fuck it" was the best course of action. [00:01] rworkman: if we dont get it fixed we will soon have another "oops, this is just like libxcb-xlib" again [00:01] rworkman: superflorous hard dependency in the ELF table is just *stupid* [00:01] Dare I ask how the xorg in -current is coming along? [00:01] antiwire: so far it is moving exactly no where [00:02] how to use or install .txz file? [00:02] hehe [00:02] not again :P [00:02] BP{k}: re e50b56d01a25a4a59daa57b35d9ab55af74bf851 - very nice. I had wanted to do that, but I got lazy. [00:02] Lumisore: scroll up a little [00:03] what commit is that, and for what? [00:04] http://github.com/michielvw/tgz2txz/tree/master [00:04] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [00:05] nice [00:08] rworkman: Thanks. I thought it made sense to add that as well, after all. [00:10] hmph [00:13] good night [00:13] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [00:13] scubacuda (n=rog@netblock-68-183-173-103.dslextreme.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:13] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:18] kkkyle (i=kkkyle@1Cust7346.an4.cle11.da.uu.net) left irc: [00:20] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-67-124-150-194.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:20] hey gang [00:21] hi [00:21] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:22] Hey redtricycle [00:22] heya, redtricycle [00:22] PuroOsso (n=PuroOsso@187.21.16.246) joined ##slackware. [00:23] hmmm wtb less annoying im application [00:25] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:29] Hrm, what do I need to do to get my remote recognized? [00:29] I ran lircd [00:29] but i dont see it in proc devices [00:29] or any input/event* [00:30] I have a HP remote that came with my laptop [00:31] redtricycle: Is there a /dev/lircd? [00:31] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:33] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-159-125.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:34] redtricycle: what's the model number of the remote? [00:37] jumperboy (n=jorey@gl206.websiteproject.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:37] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:43] umislack (i=1000@58.64.91.58) left irc: "leaving" [00:43] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [00:45] umislack (i=1000@58.64.92.86) joined ##slackware. [00:46] so i just installed apache-ant via sbo, and it seems to have dumped everything in /opt/apache-ant/ [00:46] was it supposed to do that? because i need the stuff in the bin folder on my path, and i don't know if it'll know to get it's /etc stuff from /opt/apache-ant/etc [00:47] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:47] anyone good with electronics and stuff? maybe NEMA L5-20P ? [00:48] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [00:48] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:48] jeev: I can plug in my toaster. [00:49] jeev: Does that count? [00:49] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [00:49] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:49] http://www.cafepress.com/volkerdi.293676123 a nice thing isn't it?:-) [00:50] that logo sucks [00:50] agentc0re: lol [00:53] abcde2 (n=abcde2@75-172-48-173.tukw.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:56] MLanden, sorry, I was googling for the answer [00:56] and I wasnt figuring it out [00:56] redtricycle: np [00:56] the remote name is HP RC1762307/01 [00:58] gooph (n=chatzill@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:58] do you know if your remote is supported by lirc? [00:58] _ohm (n=nava@pool-71-99-30-120.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:59] lol agentc0re, no [00:59] tank-man, well, I went to lirc.org [00:59] nd I see HP config files [00:59] for a remote that's close [01:00] RC...some different numbers/06 [01:00] and I assume that my remote would work [01:00] I mean, it's mainly the infrared receiver, right? [01:00] I don't see a /dev/lirc file created [01:00] when I run lircd [01:01] you need to load the kernel module for your remote first [01:01] redtricycle: What is the model of your laptop? [01:01] HP pavilion DV5 [01:02] hp pavilion dv5t-1000 [01:04] how do I check if it sees the infrared receive? [01:04] lsusb...lsbpci? [01:04] lsdev? [01:06] nadster1987 (n=user@daphmb01dc1-222-67.dynamic.mts.net) joined ##slackware. [01:06] lspci -v [01:08] Does Slackware 12.2 have the ifnrared module built it?.. [01:08] it should... [01:09] gar0t0 (n=Aimee@189.110.131.1) left irc: "leaving" [01:11] <_judas_> irda [01:12] <_judas_> yeah [01:18] I did a quick job today for someone who said they were having a virus problem. The system had over 147 different malware files not including tracker cookies [01:18] fun :) [01:19] <_judas_> hehe [01:19] The worst it had was vundo but the system actually cleaned up nicely [01:19] |ast| (n=lilo78@141-3-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: "leaving" [01:19] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.77.244) joined ##slackware. [01:20] <_judas_> i worked on a computer like that not long ago.. nearly every file on it was infected, the 'microsoft live care' or whatever was also hijacked [01:20] <_judas_> it also had vundo [01:20] <_judas_> i can't recall the 37 others [01:20] lol [01:21] <_judas_> it buried itself deep [01:21] 37 ? [01:21] <_judas_> i had to run doctor web several times [01:22] nadster33 (n=user@daphmb01dc1-210-221.dynamic.mts.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:22] Masterx831 (n=masterx8@adsl-235-239-210.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [01:23] anyone knows how to compile pixman? [01:26] Masterx831: does it use a nonstandard build system or something? [01:26] PuroOsso (n=PuroOsso@187.21.16.246) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:28] redtricycle: How's it coming along? [01:29] not good.. [01:29] my main problem is [01:29] that it doesnt detect the remote [01:29] so the /dev/lirc doesnt exist [01:29] and I can't start lircd looking for an event [01:30] because eventx doesnt exist for the remote [01:31] redtricycle: Did you try to modprobe irda? [01:33] just tried it [01:33] it didnt work, unfortunately [01:33] I did [01:33] modprobe irda [01:33] Channel flood from redtricycle -- kicking [01:33] then lircd [01:33] redtricycle kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [01:33] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:33] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-67-124-150-194.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:33] Oops, kicked [01:33] wb redtricycle. :P [01:34] wb, redtricycle [01:34] ls -la /dev/lircd shows... [01:35] /dev/lircd= (with the equals sign) [01:35] what does the equal sign mean? [01:36] Action: frullet hates being sick [01:36] how freakin cool is shred [01:39] redtricycle: socket [01:39] Hey frullet [01:39] I...see [01:39] firebird619: whats up? [01:39] frullet: nothing much. you? (aside from being sick) [01:40] firebird619: heh, not alot, having a quiet sunday arvo :) [01:41] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-71-202-96-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "GONE!" [01:45] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-71-202-96-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:46] redtricycle: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/IrDA/IrDA.html this might help..wish I could help further [01:48] stef_208 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: "OOH" [01:49] <_judas_> hmm, i have an irda0 network device, the operating system seemed to have picked it up automatically [01:49] <_judas_> using the huge-smp kernel in 12.2 [01:51] dios_mio (i=FREELOVE@78.176.57.194) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:52] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:52] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:53] MLanden I'll check it out! [01:53] exbio (n=exbios@unaffiliated/exbio) left ##slackware. [01:54] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [01:54] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.8.248) joined ##slackware. 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[02:01] hahahahahahahah [02:02] Would that be considered as eating evidence? :P [02:02] no man they'll drop it [02:02] or wont even try it [02:03] haha, still funny though. :) [02:03] my fart smells like diarrhea [02:03] i dunno why [02:03] :O [02:03] X_X [02:03] jeev: redirect yourself to #ubuntu [02:03] i had to share it with someone [02:03] lol frullet [02:03] frullet: haha [02:03] then i'll have to tell them about my dingleberries [02:04] thank heavens ##slackware doesn't have smell-o-irc. :P [02:04] wish i did [02:04] it makes me laugh like CRAZY when people suffer from it [02:04] I don't. :P [02:05] <_judas_> anyone here get disconnection problems with usb wireless adaptors in 2.6.27.7 [02:05] <_judas_> like the actual usb device disconnecting as if it powered off [02:06] <_judas_> and then linux unable to reattach the device in the driver tree [02:06] Thursap (n=bnguyen@113.22.43.11) left irc: "leaving" [02:07] <_judas_> i had that recurring so i saved up for a pci wireless adaptor instead [02:07] jeev: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIaTOVLNgzU ... lol [02:08] ,k, [02:08] lol\ [02:12] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.77.244) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:16] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.8.248) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:18] <_judas_> http://awkwardfamilyphotos.com/ [02:18] _judas_: ? [02:19] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.39.254) joined ##slackware. [02:20] 07:05:03 < jizzonhertits> I don't have any female friends because I just see them as walking vaginas [02:20] Anakin- (i=Anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [02:20] lol [02:20] Lexus1 (n=Lexus@62.165.60.236) left irc: "Leaving." [02:21] <_judas_> hmm [02:21] <_judas_> that guy sounds familiar [02:21] http://thingsididlastnight.com [02:24] nadster1987 (n=user@daphmb01dc1-222-67.dynamic.mts.net) left irc: Connection timed out [02:24] lol [02:24] should put some google ads up on that bitch [02:24] Hi rworkman. How are you doing? [02:25] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-164-37.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:25] nadster1987 (n=user@daphmb01dc1-222-67.dynamic.mts.net) joined ##slackware. [02:25] firebird619: Ask your mom. ;-) [02:25] hahaha [02:25] Lexus1 (n=Lexus@62.165.60.236) joined ##slackware. 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[02:33] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:33] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-75-249.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [02:34] antiwire (i=antiwire@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x44033C56) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:36] rworkman: Whoa, pulling out the "Your mom" jokes eh? ;) [02:36] firebird619: So what did mom say though? :P [02:36] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.exetel.com.au) left irc: "leaving" [02:37] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.77.244) joined ##slackware. [02:38] lol, I haven't a clue. :) didn't ask. :P [02:38] Nick change: lw0x15_ -> lw0x15 [02:39] some things are better left unknown. [02:39] and unthought about for that matter. [02:40] she didn't say much, she kept slurpnig [02:40] slurping [02:40] Okay, thats too far. [02:40] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:40] Action: agentc0re slaps jeev [02:40] hahah [02:40] agentc0re: I'd ask you how you're doing, but I'm not sure I want to ask that question any more. :P [02:41] Action: firebird619 kicks jeev [02:41] firebird619: I'm drunk. [02:41] well not so much. [02:41] I've been drinking. That sounds better. [02:41] lol [02:41] I'd totally blow below .08 right now. So i'm good. [02:41] Shit, i'll test it out right now. [02:42] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.0.15) joined ##slackware. [02:43] you have you're own breathalyzer? [02:43] .08 right on the money. [02:43] firebird619: Yup. [02:43] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.39.254) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:43] :O [02:43] firebird619: http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/b019/ [02:43] agentc0re: what is your bac now? [02:43] .08 [02:43] wow, you guessed right, you're an experienced drunk. [02:43] ^ [02:43] so my friend went to this party, took a nap in her car, and this guy drove car, drunk, and got a DUI. [02:44] Hey thumbs [02:44] almost got her car impounded. [02:44] :( [02:44] and i'm supposed to wait 20min since my last drink to get an acurate reading too. [02:44] heh [02:45] antiwire (i=antiwire@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x44033C56) joined ##slackware. [02:46] <_judas_> anyone here have experience with the dell mini 9 or hp mini 2140 [02:46] needless to say, it's not a good night [02:47] <_judas_> at least her car isn't impounded [02:47] I guess. [02:48] <_judas_> were you napping while he drove [02:48] no, she was. [02:48] I was at home. [02:48] took her keys from her coat, and took off.... [02:48] thumbs: what did he blow? [02:49] morning. [02:49] morning stybla [02:49] agentc0re: over 0.08 [02:49] agentc0re: he got a free trip to the station. [02:51] well i would be pissed if someone stole my friends keys and then their car to drive. If they blew a .08 it might lessen my pissy level because i know my levels and can't guess anyone elses. [02:51] the least he could have done is nudge her, and ASK. [02:51] no, he was high, drunk, possibly both [02:51] Oh gawd. [02:51] Kick his dumb ass will ya? [02:52] he got enough shit from her already. [02:52] Doesn't he know the one simple rule? Tuck the elbows. [02:52] I'm just pissed because she had to go through this BS [02:52] thumbs: No, he could have killed her. [02:52] agentc0re: yes, he could [02:52] agentc0re: it pisses me off [02:53] No one can receive enough shit when endangering someones elses living status. [02:53] thumbs: Kick his ass. [02:53] yeah. [02:53] i would [02:53] wouldn't hesitate it. [02:53] paissad (n=paissad@111.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:54] Just gotta be smart about it is all. [02:54] There are somethings i am willing to accept a little jail time for. [02:55] I know i've said this before, but i love this device! http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/musical-instruments/b7f3/ [02:55] 500$ [02:56] does it give bjs too? [02:56] Yup, the only reason why i don't have one. [02:56] antiwire: It may attract the opposite sex to do so. [02:56] lol [02:57] If you mix the wrong beats, it may attract the same sex to do so. [02:57] It's in the fine print. [02:58] mwnn (n=user@59.92.150.113) joined ##slackware. [02:58] nadster33 (n=user@daphmb01dc1-214-61.dynamic.mts.net) joined ##slackware. [02:59] amazon10x no slackbuilds for it trying to compile it having trouble [03:00] what kind of trouble? do you get an error message? [03:00] Hi, the Dell inspiron laptop has all the function keys mapped to the Fn key. So if i have to do ALT+F4, i have to actually hit ALT+Fn+F4 keys. [03:00] Is there any workaround for this problem [03:03] maybe you could use xbindkeys to remap what you want? [03:03] nadster1987 (n=user@daphmb01dc1-222-67.dynamic.mts.net) left irc: Connection timed out [03:03] redtricycle: let me try that [03:04] Masterx831: what are you having trouble with? [03:04] agentc0re: pixman [03:05] amazon10x: What version? [03:05] redtricycle: There seems to be no such command [03:05] maybe this http://easystroke.wiki.sourceforge.net/ [03:05] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-025-137.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [03:05] Hi Rat409. [03:05] mwnn: google xbindkeys [03:06] hey firebird619 [03:07] farabi (n=farabi@host-85-27-58-115.brutele.be) joined ##slackware. [03:07] xmodmap,xbindkeys possibly [03:08] not xmodmap. That would be used to remap a key to a new function. So you could have one key preform another, possibly multiple i think. [03:08] pixman-0.15.4 [03:08] Masterx831: Paste bin you ./configure options [03:08] s/you/your [03:09] i'm going to ./configure and make hold on ok your right [03:09] .. [03:09] wait, you didn't do that before? [03:09] Action: agentc0re is confused. [03:09] shingoshi (n=shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:09] of corse i did [03:10] then what am i right about? [03:10] it tells me clip test error or something like thsat [03:10] Who told me not to install the nvidia driver? Ok. You were right! [03:10] can you pastebin your ./configure options though? [03:10] agentc0re paste bin [03:10] schneiderr (n=me@76.74.129.199) got netsplit. [03:10] ok [03:10] shingoshi: why not? [03:11] and how can i paste the error message? [03:11] My system crashes every time I try to log into X. [03:11] shingoshi: I've never had a problem with the nvidia drivers. You must have really pooched something. [03:11] well copy it at least [03:11] Masterx831: pastebin [03:11] Masterx831: pastebin.slackadelic.com [03:11] Masterx831: pastebin.com, pastebin.ca [03:11] All I did was install the nvidia tool for xorg.conf. [03:11] shingoshi setup your xorg.conf with the right video settings [03:12] It was automatic. [03:12] ok [03:12] shingoshi: Did you drop to telinit 3 to install? [03:12] NO. I actually get the desktop. Everything starts to load. And then it just locks up. DEAD!!! [03:12] shingoshi auto is bad for linux run xorgconfig [03:13] xorgsetup [03:13] And that should take care of this? [03:13] Masterx831: No. [03:13] shingoshi: no. [03:13] mwnn (n=user@59.92.150.113) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:13] <_judas_> i've found X locks up sometimes if modelines aren't present [03:13] shingoshi: what version of the nvidia drivers did you get? [03:13] run nvidia-xconfig? [03:14] The very latest. Just got them tonight. [03:14] shingoshi: What version? [03:14] may have to adjust font paths [03:14] agentc0re oh and on google they have the same error message too [03:14] 185?? [03:14] iirc i did [03:14] Let me look. [03:15] valvola (n=fabiovio@host71-173-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:15] 185.18.04 [03:15] shingoshi: Which 185? [03:15] shingoshi: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_185.18.10.html [03:15] 185.18.04 [03:16] schneiderr (n=me@76.74.129.199) got lost in the net-split. [03:16] I'm on a console. I'll have to use links for that. [03:17] valvola (n=fabiovio@host71-173-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:18] shingoshi: Sorry that's x86_64 [03:18] valvola (n=fabiovio@host71-173-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:18] shingoshi: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/ [03:18] agentc0re: Why did you post the 64-bit drivers. [03:18] I'm now running a 32-bit kernel. [03:18] shingoshi: Because i use slamd64 and it auto detects i'm using 64bit. [03:18] ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/185.18.08/ [03:18] bojevnik (n=Administ@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [03:19] That's good for you. I can't build 64-bit kernel modules. [03:19] why not? [03:20] shingoshi: according to their site, this driver is the most recently modified. ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/180.60/ [03:21] Action: shingoshi is getting 185.19 [03:21] okay. [03:22] i used a diff driver like 180.29,current for mine is 180.51 atm works fine [03:22] modified date is earlier than the current though. which is weird in my opinion. [03:22] Why are there two different drivers in each directory? [03:22] i'm running 180.44 and having no issues either. [03:22] probly one is x86,other is x86_64 [03:22] shingoshi: I can't remember. [03:22] Rat409: no, thats not it. [03:23] pkg0 pkg1 Both for x86. [03:23] Rat409: The separate them by directories. [03:23] ohh [03:23] http://pastebin.ca/1425228 [03:23] The one person i know who would know is nullboy but that buttface is MIA. [03:23] Do I need to download both. pkg0 and pkg1 [03:24] Masterx831: Don't post the help options, post me what you are using. [03:24] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.0.15) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:25] nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) joined ##slackware. [03:25] Action: shingoshi thinks they're different compressions. gz and bz2 [03:25] One is much smaller than the other. [03:25] oh sorry [03:25] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.1.82) joined ##slackware. [03:25] shingoshi: No, there is something different but nothing that is important. [03:26] I can't remember what it is.. gah. [03:26] I know it'll show up in google. [03:26] pixman-0.15.4.tar.gz [03:26] Just get the 0. [03:27] gah.. [03:27] Action: agentc0re is going to bed. [03:28] night agentc0re [03:28] me too starting to get really drowsy. good luck and good night all,be well! [03:28] goodnight agentc0re [03:29] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [03:29] this thing is eating my brain [03:29] agentc0re: g'night. [03:32] Action: shingoshi is rebuilding his nvidia driver now. [03:32] Action: shingoshi just got an error from the build. Saying the kernel and gcc are incompatible. [03:33] Nick change: Lexus1 -> Lexus123 [03:34] Nick change: Lexus123 -> Lexus1 [03:34] can't imagine things like that happening on *your* box. [03:34] Lexus1 (n=Lexus@62.165.60.236) left irc: "Leaving." [03:34] not having any luck eh shingoshi? [03:34] Hey chopp [03:34] Lexus1 (n=Lexus@62.165.60.236) joined ##slackware. [03:34] hey [03:35] chopp: for once my flux desktop is the same as what it was earlier in that screenshot you seen. :P [03:35] Nick change: Lexus1 -> BastionHost[Lexu [03:36] BastionHost[Lexu: gosh, pick a name and be done with it. :P [03:36] ok) [03:36] firebird619: yeah good choice. 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[04:35] I am trying to connect postgresql from php, but it can't connect. "Fatal error: Call to undefined function pg_Connect() in /www/index.php on line 1" [04:35] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [04:36] nadster (n=user@daphmb01dc1-222-179.dynamic.mts.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:39] stunix (n=stian@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [04:40] Lumisore: is that your own php script? [04:42] yes [04:43] i don't remember if php is case-sensitive in the function names, but it's better to suppose it is and call the function as it appears in the manual: pg_connect [04:43] I did, and got same error msg [04:46] zuhair (n=zuhair@202.59.174.193) left ##slackware. [04:53] Lumisore: are you sure you have php compiled with pgsql support? [04:55] why isn't there an rc.hplip shipped with hplip anymore ? :/ [04:55] mohaa: i recall something about that in the changelog... [04:56] rg3, which changelog [04:56] (remember, we had it on Slack 12) [04:56] -current changelog [04:56] oh, i found it [04:57] shot shot please [04:57] entry from oct 16, 2007 [04:57] : [04:57] can't copy&paste text at this moment, sorry [04:57] omg [04:57] isn't that 2008 ? [04:58] no, 2007 [04:58] I'm reading it [04:58] hey, I appear that same day in a different changelog entry [04:58] \o/ [04:59] can't remember which slack I was working with but it was all ok still last summer :P [04:59] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-67-124-150-194.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Java user signed off" [04:59] stunix_ (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [04:59] stunix (n=stian@213.225.76.177) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:03] stybla: yes, sure [05:13] stunix_ (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:25] Lumisore: have you checked it in php_info() ? [05:26] http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1368163 [05:26] yskapell (n=panthro@athedsl-4496655.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:26] hello guys [05:26] nille__ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: "Leaving" [05:26] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.10.46) joined ##slackware. [05:27] Slackware change the tgz in txz??? f.e. ntfs-3g-2009.3.8-i486-1.txz [05:28] and to upgrade will follow the normal steps? [05:28] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.81.188) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:30] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [05:31] they are about to wake up the astronauts [05:32] none? [05:35] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.13.197) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:35] gyroscope (n=gyroscop@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [05:39] koolniczka (n=nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) joined ##slackware. [05:41] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-123-59.ip38.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. 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[06:34] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.exetel.com.au) left irc: Client Quit [06:35] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-169-221.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [06:36] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [06:37] zxz (n=zeroXzer@59.93.34.16) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:39] credo (n=36th@80.233.147.119) joined ##slackware. [06:41] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:42] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [06:42] hey, i have installed a few things from slackbuilds.org and /tmp/SBo folder is about 5Gb... is it just a temp folder and safe to remove or is it a good idea to leave it around? [06:43] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [06:46] Masterx831 (n=masterx8@adsl-235-239-210.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [06:47] zxz (n=zeroXzer@59.93.9.28) joined ##slackware. [06:52] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.110.173) joined ##slackware. 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[07:35] http://imagebin.org/49320 lmao [07:37] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:38] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl9-167-96.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [07:51] i'm looking for an app that converts raw video from /dev/video0 to jpeg/png using the command line. any tips? [07:54] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:54] v3gard, mplayer or vlc [07:58] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.exetel.com.au) left irc: "leaving" [07:59] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:00] wdyy (n=yy64@123.80.27.175) joined ##slackware. [08:01] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:01] ALVAN: okey, thanks for the tip. [08:02] v3gard, these are not included in the default slackware installation . .but you can find slackbuilds at http://slackbuilds.org/ [08:02] gooph (n=chatzill@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:03] gooph (n=chatzill@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [08:03] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: "leaving" [08:04] guys, where can I find the slackbuilds for the original slack packages? are they available? [08:04] yes on the install cds [08:04] Kaapa : on any slackware mirror [08:04] or dvd or online [08:04] Kaapa: packages.slackware.it [08:06] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-110-118.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:06] slackware.osuosl.org:/slackware_source/x/x11 <- like this? 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[08:26] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:28] Action: compl3x can't even remember going to bed :| [08:28] :) [08:28] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-110-118.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [08:29] PingFloyd (n=pingfloy@adsl-75-23-41-51.dsl.lgvwtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [08:30] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-110-118.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:31] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [08:31] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) joined ##slackware. [08:32] compl3x: did you get my .fluxbox working yor you? [08:32] s/yor/for [08:34] Cann0n: I never bothered :P way too many menus - I just made mine real simple [08:34] Action: compl3x needs a smokeo [08:34] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:35] compl3x: just stick the /menu in fluxbox and changne your init to read /menu/menu [08:35] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.77.244) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [08:35] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [08:37] Cann0n: http://imagebin.org/49324 [08:39] thats cool. a bit darker than im used to, but nice. what is that top monitoring bar? [08:39] Cann0n: Conky [08:40] nice [08:40] never seen it that way before [08:40] that wallpaper is a shot from SinCity, cool movie [08:41] Pig_Pen: I know :) - some parts are a bit messed up tho :p [08:43] hmm anyone know if its possible to hide my Eterms from the taskbar in fluxbox? [08:45] try edititng windowmenu . if not i dunno [08:46] hmm [08:47] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [08:50] people, i was wondering, is there on slack some tool for encrypting flash usb disks or any kind of disk encryption? [08:50] in slackware, i don't know, but cryptoloop. [08:54] zxz (n=zeroXzer@59.93.5.241) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:57] stybla: how do i install that cryptoloop? [09:02] I phoned my doctor cause I was worried about swine flu, but all could hear was crackling on the line... [09:02] isBEKaml (n=vats@122.164.183.29) joined ##slackware. [09:03] lol [09:03] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:04] isBEKaml (n=vats@122.164.183.29) left irc: Client Quit [09:06] Hi. What does mean "|" char in slack-required ? [09:07] grissiom (n=grissiom@123.119.74.219) joined ##slackware. [09:08] Starchaser : i wonder if it means 'logical or' [09:10] #linux has really hit rock bottom huh? [09:12] dchmelik (n=d@74-209-7-198.dsl.elltel.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:12] ananke: hm... what could be instead of "|" and "," ? [09:12] (sorry for my english once again) [09:13] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.81.29) left irc: "Leaving." [09:13] Starchaser : not sure, i haven't dealt with those files much. i'm only guessing it would stand for a logical or [09:13] to people using xfs, how much are your partitions fragmented ? (run "xfs_db -r /dev/sdaX" and then type "frag") [09:14] grissiom (n=grissiom@123.119.74.219) left irc: "Leaving..." [09:14] Camarade_Tux : it really depends, and there is one thing you should keep in mind [09:14] grissiom (n=grissiom@123.119.74.219) joined ##slackware. [09:14] Camarade_Tux : when you have xfs filesystem full of large files, your fragmentation will appear much higher than it really is, due to how it's calculated [09:15] ananke: http://slackfind.net/en/packages/search/?name=kiso look at the first package, it is doesn't looks like "logical or" [09:16] and for the / (or system) partition ? [09:17] # xfs_db -c frag -r /dev/system/root [09:17] actual 5663, ideal 5656, fragmentation factor 0.12% [09:17] Starchaser : indeed. it looks like a separator [09:18] Starchaser: I beleive its a separator [09:18] Starchaser: havent looked properly but could also be or... ie: this package or this package [09:19] I cannot find any description about slack-required format [09:19] Starchaser : it looks like a separator between packages related to a specific dependency [09:20] hmmm, my 1.40% looks so big in comparison :p [09:20] Camarade_Tux : nah, it's tiny. and if you're concerned, try defragging: xfs_fsr /dev/yourdevice [09:21] i should also mention that my root filesystem is small, since i have separate /usr, /var/, /opt, /tmp, /home, etc [09:21] /dev/mapper/system-root 2.0G 200M 1.8G 10% / [09:23] thanks [09:25] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.86.166) joined ##slackware. [09:26] ananke, I see it's pretty tiny but the bad part is that last time I checked, I had the same result and xfs_fsr doesn't reduce that [09:27] Camarade_Tux : which means that you have large files there that fall across multiple boundries [09:27] I see [09:27] Camarade_Tux : i should find the article/post that explains that in great detail [09:28] would it be possible to put the /etc files next to each others [09:28] ? [09:29] nadster (n=user@daphmb01dc1-213-33.dynamic.mts.net) joined ##slackware. [09:29] Camarade_Tux : in fact, you could try this experiment: create yourself xfs filesystem, say 1GB in size. create there a 10MB file and check fragmentation. remove that file, create 100M file. rinse and repeat, until say 900MB. you'll see fragmentation seemingly skyrocket, eventhough there really isn't any problem [09:29] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl153-239.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:29] Has anyone had any luck running UT3 dedicated with webadmin on Slackware? [09:30] The webadmin just doesnt start! It works right on Debian but not in Slackware [09:30] Camarade_Tux : in theory yes, in practice that would be hard to do. ultimately, there would be very little to no benefit to having /etc files next to each other on the disk [09:31] Camarade_Tux : and right now you have already spent more time and energy than fragmentation on your root filesystem would waste :) [09:31] [over the lifetime of said filesystem] [09:32] ananke, haha, that's sure but I'm actually playing ;-) [09:36] simply put, fragmentation is when files are split between extents. that's why larger files on xfs result in a seemingly larger fragmentation report [09:41] mr_S (n=sven@82.75.252.31) joined ##slackware. [09:46] does somebody here have experience with ldap and ldap server mirroring? [09:48] ananke, btw, I'm currently playing with boot times ;-) [09:48] (and next I'll do shutdown times) [09:48] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-110-118.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [09:51] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-110-118.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:54] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:54] Anakin- (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [09:58] koolniczka (n=nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:58] roorah (n=foo@87.244.223.14) joined ##slackware. [09:59] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-159-125.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:59] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:01] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:01] hitest: o/ [10:02] hiya frullet:) how goes it? [10:02] hey hitest [10:02] hitest: yeh good.. you [10:02] hi compl3x o/ [10:03] mziulu (i=52555923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c1a3df2140222c8e) joined ##slackware. [10:03] frullet: I'm good thanks:) [10:03] how are you doing, compl3x? [10:03] hitest: good good :) [10:03] :) [10:04] being capped is like pulling out teeth.. [10:04] ouch, bad torrent download speeds? [10:04] bad everything, i can barely load a web page [10:05] aaarrrggghhh, my speeds suck as well today [10:05] my speeds always suck. but at least I can plan mostly out of it (plus the gw really helps) [10:05] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [10:08] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [10:12] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:13] roorah_ (n=foo@87.244.223.14) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:15] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-143-247-211.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:52] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-209.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:52] simNIX (n=simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) joined ##slackware. [10:53] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:54] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host49-169-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:54] mwnn (n=user@59.92.184.126) joined ##slackware. [10:55] hi, i am trying build a emacs-23 slackware pkg. what argument should i pass to the "configure" script to generate a [10:55] Makefile without the "-g" option for CFLAGS? [10:56] you'd better check the output of ./configure --help [10:56] but you may try --disable-debug [10:56] mwnn: you might also want to the checkout the emacs SlackBuild that Patrick uses. [10:56] btw, why do you want to disable -g ? [10:57] Camarade_Tux: I tried both the methods, but the -g flag is still present in the generated Makefile [10:57] BP{k}: Let me check that now [10:58] Action: Camarade_Tux was assuming you were already using pat's slackbuild ;p [10:58] mwnn, then just edit by hand or patch the buildsystem/the Makefile once it has been generated [10:58] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [10:59] I'm done! [10:59] I got a Computer Science Degree [10:59] typing with only one hand really makes ou realize access times matter a lot for hard ddrive performance ;p [10:59] skibur, congrats ! [10:59] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [10:59] thanks [10:59] skibur> to your moms basement! [10:59] zmyrgel (n=user@hoasb-ff09dd00-209.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:59] :D [10:59] Camarade_Tux: I have done that all these days. I just wanted to automate the process [11:00] GOGOGOOG [11:00] mwnn, then use the slackbuild and make a patch for that [11:00] Camarade_Tux: yeah, I am downloading that now [11:00] mwnn, but does it reduce emacs's size ? (that would be great) [11:01] Camarade_Tux: Yes it surely does. I can give u the executable's size difference in a minute [11:02] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host49-169-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:03] xdoctor_ (n=avs@201.78.96.185) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [11:03] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host49-169-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:07] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:08] Camarade_Tux: With -g option: size = 11MB; Without -g option: size = 6.8MB [11:09] hmm, nice ! [11:09] mwnn, executables stripped or not ? [11:09] not stripped [11:09] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-11-57.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:10] could you try stripping them ? slackware packages strip binaries by default [11:10] Camarade_Tux: Do you want to know the size of stripped execuatables? [11:10] mwnn, if possible, yes :) [11:10] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.1.129) joined ##slackware. [11:11] Camarade_Tux: Will get you the sizes in a minute [11:11] I've made small slackware installs and then, there was emacs which was 15% of the whole system [11:15] :> [11:15] nice [11:16] Camarade_Tux: Since strip would remove all the symbols, the sizes of both executables were 6.5MB [11:17] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-83-112.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:17] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:18] mwnn, I'll have to experiment more : I think I can save some space from emacs and drscheme :) [11:19] Camarade_Tux: If you ask me, we can just do a normal compilation of emacs and then strip the executable [11:21] mwnn, I'll try by myself, thanks :) [11:22] but first I need to finish what I'm currently doing : making slackware boot faster :) [11:22] brb :) [11:22] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-110-118.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [11:24] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-110-118.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:27] zmyrgel (n=user@hoasb-ff09dd00-209.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [11:27] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-176-159-58.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [11:27] mishehu (i=mishehu@cshells.shavedgoats.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:28] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430477.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[11:56] haha, I was thinking that myself [11:57] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.110.173) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:58] because it's cool? [11:58] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [11:58] you can do two things at the same time : ) [11:59] multi-tasking ftw:) [11:59] I have a femenite side for that :p [12:00] thats called your butthole [12:01] compl3x: i like anal beads too... [12:02] lol [12:02] o-o-o-o-o-o-o----O [12:02] Cann0n: Got a female friend who has an necklace that looks like anal beads - always gives me a good laugh [12:02] lol [12:02] lol [12:02] anyone seen that film Choke - where he gets one stuck? :p [12:03] no... [12:03] watch it :p [12:03] thats what KY is for [12:03] ive heard about enough bashing of kentucky [12:03] ha [12:04] haha [12:04] KY fried chiken -- I can't imagine it would be a good combination [12:05] Ill stick with ketchup [12:05] and mayo [12:05] HAWT! [12:05] compl3x> better than the original recipe [12:05] lol [12:05] chowabunga: haha [12:05] fried foods create free radicals! [12:06] :p [12:07] http://www.tinycorelinux.com/ [12:07] i am a free radical! [12:08] bonded radical more like it [12:08] but now we are playing with words [12:09] bbl.....time for some breakfast:) [12:09] im making crab rangoon and veggie egg rolls [12:09] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.13.197) joined ##slackware. [12:09] pre-fried [12:09] nice [12:10] stef_208 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [12:11] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:11] chowabunga: nice. [12:11] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:11] im staying in today because im trying to reduce my carbon foot print!111 [12:12] im a good anti-humanist [12:16] ive jsut been informed we will now be referring to ourselves as transhumanists. destroy after reading [12:16] everyone picks a number... all who pic even numbers gets a piano wire neck tie. [12:16] lol [12:16] i pick 37 [12:17] I'm playing with bootchart but I don't get why I have scsi_eh_{0,1,2} (eh stands for error handling), or is it one per sata channel I could get... [12:17] 47 here [12:17] hmm, nice. finally FTC put its foot down on those car warranty scammers: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jFpGIsUi1KVrRr07BBoVqLrkz0ZQD98729IO0 [12:17] s0d0 (n=john@host86-175-193-98.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [12:17] 17 [12:17] haa you idiot 17 is even [12:17] lol. glad we all like 7's [12:17] LMFAO!!! [12:17] 6 [12:18] Action: Cann0n hands stybla piano wire with dowels attached to the ends... [12:18] let me put it on for you! [12:18] stybla chooses to sacrifice himself to avoid exhaling CO2...you have the world, you die. Score: 6 Level 33 Lawful Human Male Martyr [12:18] lol [12:18] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.71.214) joined ##slackware. [12:18] :s [12:18] 17 has some properties, I've forgotten which of course :) [12:19] OMG its like prime if it waas 71 [12:19] but its 17 so it cant be prime [12:19] Action: Cann0n rolls a 16 and casts a magic arrow in a the air. [12:19] the a the air is hit! [12:20] the a the air attacks Cann0n with CO2 breath and barium sulfate sunscreen [12:20] Action: Cann0n grows to level 10 and changes to a Dark Elvish Archer from Lu`e [12:21] 17 is the least random number[3], according to the Hackers' Jargon File. There is a proven theorem that 17 is the value most likely to be picked as a "random" number when such is needed in journalism which is derived from the Feller number. [12:21] Action: Cann0n dies from CO2 posioning [12:21] cann0ns body releases all its held co2, making the planet A RAGING INFERNO [12:21] oh, i should have died like 3 mins ago, shouldn't i? [12:21] Action: stybla dies [12:21] haha im alive [12:22] seriously...tax the air...god figure out who is behind this bs [12:22] they are going to pay 3rd world countries CASH to not develop... [12:22] which only kills people and ruins their ecosystem more [12:22] the same wikipedia page also gives [12:22] Described at MIT as 'the most random number', according to hackers' lore. This is supposedly because in a study where respondents were asked to choose a random number from 1 to 20, 17 was the most common choice. [12:22] ... [12:23] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-025-137.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:23] Camarade_Tux> thats just mit students [12:23] chowabunga: what kind of non-sense is that? [12:23] stybla> what [12:23] chowabunga: taxing the air [12:24] yes, CO2 cap/trade new global power system being setup, new global currency trading market (carbon credits) [12:24] oh, this one. [12:24] chowabunga, actually in both sentences, 17 was the most chosen random number, but the way it was interpreted was different ;) [12:24] |newbie| (n=fabio@host49-169-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:25] even if their plans span decades...its worth talking about [12:25] chowabunga: but that's kinda old, except being global. [12:25] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:26] it has parallels to other control methods for sure [12:26] chowabunga: so, is it going to be legal to sell CO2 credits world-wide? [12:26] well corporations will be able to trade them [12:26] they are even now. [12:26] and someone just prints them, so expect massive fraud [12:26] all i know is invest in CCX companies [12:27] well, what's not a fraud? [12:27] isn't current money a fraud? [12:27] [12:27] well i mean derivatives [12:28] not saying there will be printed CC either...just mean in actualiy they will be created out of thin air by the ponzi schemers [12:28] i'm going to take a nap, so i can re-do mailserver over the night :( [12:29] booo [12:29] i'm *so* happy. [12:29] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl153-239.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: [12:29] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-164-37.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:30] taking naps is a sign of depression [12:30] lol [12:31] I always nap [12:31] so is eating... and not eating... [12:31] :p [12:31] haha [12:32] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: "De profvndis clamo ad te Domine." [12:33] i love that commercial. "are you tired after work? Are you often not hungry? Do you eat too much? do you take showers? Well you might be dying of cancer/depression/anxiety." [12:33] then it lists a thousand side effects which have been FDA approved [12:34] side effect: check medicine to treat side effect: check [12:34] snakeoil salesmen aka carpet baggers [12:34] lol including bllody shits, death, ond brain damage [12:34] lol yeah [12:34] if you see blood in your stool see our brochure for possible remedies* [12:34] lol [12:36] dont pharmaceuticals already have immunity from lawsuits [12:36] chowabunga: not the old ones lol [12:37] reboot-time test :) [12:37] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-110-118.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [12:37] so tell me about the snake oil...did it make you sicker so he could sell you an anti-dote? [12:37] like that dye they used to use for CAT scans... caueses FMS and YOU might be eligable for claims! [12:38] what about chemo [12:39] dunno. id rather die than loose useage of my cock-n-balls [12:39] freenix (n=master@ti132110a080-3739.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [12:39] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-110-118.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:39] that can be arranged [12:40] Action: Cann0n hands chowabunga a large pipe and bends his head down. [12:40] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [12:40] stop saying loose instead of lose [12:40] im seeing that too much lately [12:40] lol [12:40] seriously [12:40] thats georgia school systems for you! [12:41] uh no [12:41] say it out loud in your head and see if it sounds right [12:41] i didnt lurn my multyplacashun tables until 10th grade [12:41] lose lost [12:41] Americans.. [12:41] lol [12:42] bowler, fowler... different sounds... [12:42] Cann0n> http://www.reddit.com/search?q=loose+lose [12:43] bleh lol [12:43] 8 threads about it [12:43] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430477.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:43] freenix (n=master@ti132110a080-3739.bb.online.no) left irc: "Leaving" [12:44] lol. i might loose my mind if i read about how lose loose loses [12:45] georgia schools do suck ass though [12:45] yeah... i know. i was there... lol [12:45] most american schools...its a joke [12:45] 4th grade we watched all the disney shows [12:46] ... [12:46] didnt learn shit... [12:46] sounds like subliminal messages [12:46] im not kidding... i couldnt even get into a private school cuz it was too late... i was a moron [12:46] subconcious hypnotic suggestion [12:46] _judas_ (n=brianaev@adsl-au-4-115.ozonline.com.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:47] superGear (i=supergea@71-212-184-180.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:47] 3rd grade was a mixed class... teacher taught 2nd and 3rd... thats 50% of the time not 3rd grade... same with 5th... it was a 4th + 5th grade class [12:48] WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Nearly 6.2 million students in the United States [12:48] between the ages of 16 and 24 in 2007 dropped out of high school, [12:48] fueling what a report released Tuesday called "a persistent high school [12:48] Channel flood from chowabunga -- kicking [12:48] dropout crisis." [12:48] chowabunga kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [12:48] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [12:48] owned [12:48] chowabunga (n=chowabun@c-24-126-172-156.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:48] i took biology 4 times in high school... i failed it that many times.... [12:48] i went to highshool in ky [12:48] learned calc 2 by the end of it...near 4.0 [12:49] but it was a good school [12:49] mine wasnt... hell, 8th grade was an 8th + 7th grade class [12:49] mixed grades is BAD... less focus on what needs te be taught... [12:50] if you do poorly on the placement exams they put you with the worst teachers [12:51] chowabunga: but its the worst ones that caused it from the start [12:51] K-2 all we did was learn the ABCs and paint or play [12:52] yea, i had to go to pre-first after kindergarten [12:52] chowabunga: besides, i scored average on those exams... which was scary... [12:53] i cant really relate..i was always 99th percentile in those stupid tests [12:53] i was denied so much learning... i think GA rated in the worst 5 school systems [12:53] of the USA [12:54] i believe thats a fact [12:54] Cann0n, don't forget south carolina i blame them for my brain being all weird [12:54] M1ck__ (n=mick@81-64-135-100.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:54] my cousin is 10 and he is learning shit i cant help him with... when i was 10, we learned addition and touched mulitplication [12:55] k-4 i went to sumter sc, public school and it was horrible i actually had to see a speech therapist because i talked as if i had marbles in my mouth [12:55] nix_chix0r: lol. [12:55] Cann0n> just study up [12:55] Cara_Magro (n=gustavo@201.2.1.38) joined ##slackware. [12:55] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:55] im a visual learner with A.D.D. so it's hard to sit and read a book. [12:55] math is just order of operations since most of the useful math has been boiled down to an algorithm [12:55] american school system sounds messed up :p [12:56] Cara_Magro (n=gustavo@201.2.1.38) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:56] our teachers did more sitting behind their desk or out of the room than on the marker board [12:56] compl3x> its education in a george orwell sense [12:56] compl3x, they are. when i lived in italy ,and belgium it wasn't like that at all and if you fooled around you got sent home [12:56] here in the UK they are very strict - in most school [12:57] most schools over here we have to wear uniform [12:57] rosh_ (n=rosh@e176091030.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [12:57] too bad your society is degeenrating just as fast if not faster [12:57] look at the youth and your orwellian police state [12:57] nix_chix0r: this kid kicked over his desk and threw a fit... teacher laughed. i speak out of turn, i sit outside by myself in the hot sun... [12:57] yeah just think of the money you save when you dont have to worry about your clothes [12:57] nix_chix0r: fair point [12:58] Cann0n, we can go get revenge on all our crappy teachers if you want [12:58] Also the point of it is eaquality between people with more and less money - however generally speaking the students with less money wear what they like. [12:58] hell, we had a sub (family friend) selling cogarettes to minors for a buck each... she even showed a few guys her tattoo... i saw it at my sisters wedding... about 2 inches from her clit... [12:58] So the theory behind it is floored. [12:58] i'll get the biggest ruler i can manage to find for the cunt who beat my hand in the 2nd grade for writting with my left hand saying i was a devil child [12:59] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:59] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:59] obama is left handed? [12:59] nix_chix0r: lol my 12th grade year i went back to the schools, it was sad... they all either got too sick to teach or too old... [13:00] lysdexia (n=doug@cpe-71-72-194-233.cinci.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:00] nix_chix0r: once on field day, the teacher made me sit all 7 hours of school on a log... i got blamed for killing a tree frog... [13:00] o0 [13:00] nix_chix0r: :) [13:01] i didnt even find out until lunch time what it was that i was blamed for... lol [13:01] i got accused of plagarism by some shitty english teacher [13:01] acidchild, haideer [13:01] lol [13:01] chowabunga: i did too but i actually did! lol [13:01] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:02] i knew it was obvious... who reads the book Moby Dick and completes a 60 page easy on it? [13:02] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:02] s/easy/essay [13:03] 60 page? [13:03] no one [13:03] thats retarded [13:03] Hand written? :p [13:03] no... printed lol [13:03] hahahahahah [13:03] i never had assignments like that [13:04] we read harry potty in 12th grade... [13:04] man i feel like my new glasses are going to slip down my nose but they dont and it's driving me nuts [13:04] tweak them [13:04] my dog headbutted me first day with my new glasses [13:05] i'm a hipster with these vogue glasses thanks to lenscrafter [13:05] they had no plain glasses everythign was all fancy [13:05] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-135-100.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:05] i like Ray Bans [13:05] yeah i got hubby the ray bans [13:05] he needed me to pick em out [13:05] last 3 pairs where ray ban... i had those nike flexons... i broke those... [13:05] |newbie| (n=fabio@host49-169-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "byez" [13:06] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [13:06] i got polo glasses from lenscrafters [13:06] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host49-169-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:06] they are getting pretty lazy cutting these plastic lenses i see [13:06] and their faux transition lenses arent worth saving 20 dollars on over the real thing [13:07] the ray bans were 159 but all their glasses are 100bucks off so our glasses totaled like 370 [13:07] so if any one needs new specs totally go there [13:07] triple - A discount can save more sometimes [13:07] Why won't 7zip extract -current .txz packages in Windows [13:08] yeah they give you those d/c with triple a as well [13:08] i havent broken ray bans... i trust the hinges so much... AND ive been in the ocean, pools, water, etc [13:08] straterra> rename to .tar.xz? [13:08] maybe it doesnt support the decompression yet [13:09] nix_chix0r> oh, thats not what they told me wtf [13:09] what was that slackpkg switch that grabbed 'new' packages from -current/ [13:09] Nick change: M1ck__ -> M1ck_ [13:09] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:09] chowabunga, you gota harass em [13:09] s/switch/parameter [13:09] Action: dartmouth hugs nix_chix0r [13:09] hi nix_chix0r, how are you? [13:09] good [13:10] Hi dartmouth, how's it going? [13:10] dartmouth: slackpkg(8) ? [13:10] firebird619> is your birthday next month? [13:10] chowabunga: nope, why? [13:10] It's going well. I'm almost not angry today and I have coffee. [13:10] Hey BP{k}, how are you? [13:10] hi dartmouth [13:10] has anyone decompressed .txz packages in Windows [13:11] BP{k}: yeah, im already there, i was hoping someone had it on the tip of their tongue [13:11] bbl [13:11] Strykar: why? [13:11] use peazip [13:11] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:11] firebird619> was firebird618 taken? [13:11] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-176-159-58.vic.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [13:11] june 19th [13:12] chowabunga: not sure, I just come up with firebird619 one day and went with it. [13:12] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:12] 619 is San Diego's area code. [13:12] but I don't live there. I'm in Minnesota [13:13] clever [13:13] So how are you doing chowabunga? [13:13] BP{k}: are you aware of any problems that would arise out of putting a newer version of libdrm in the -current tree? [13:14] ok maybe [13:15] hey firebird619 [13:15] Hey Cann0n, how are you? [13:15] 58 degrees today woot [13:16] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-70-24.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:17] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:17] nix_chix0r: 52 here, but chilly, dreary, and rainy. [13:17] firebird619: milling my baby... :( she wants to get a hotel next time shes on leave... one week, no clothes, no phones, no tv... just room service and a do not disturb sighn... [13:17] dartmouth: No, but that doesn't say anything. :) [13:17] s/milling/missing [13:17] nix_chix0r: suppose to be 81 Monday though here. :) [13:17] lol [13:17] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:17] yeah i think it's fairy clear skies tody [13:17] which means my internet wont crap out [13:18] Twiceler is the most retarded crawler ever written [13:18] i think its breadth first search lol [13:18] nix_chix0r: nice, you won't be in and out all day then. :) [13:19] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [13:19] umislack (i=1000@58.64.92.86) left irc: "leaving" [13:19] lysdexia (n=doug@cpe-71-72-194-233.cinci.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [13:19] brb [13:19] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:19] well 2pm i have a hair appointment [13:20] BP{k}: upgrading libdrm could potentially fix some fglrx issues on some systems so how would I go about trying to convince pat, or maybe someone else who can have that happen? [13:20] mishehu (i=mishehu@cshells.shavedgoats.net) joined ##slackware. [13:20] nix_chix0r: :O, getting the hair done. Having it cut, colored, or what? [13:20] mziulu (i=52555923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c1a3df2140222c8e) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [13:20] cut, color, eyebrow wax, :P duno if i'm gona get red again or not [13:21] hey firebird619 [13:21] Hey compl3x, how's it goin? [13:21] good good yourself? [13:21] nix_chix0r: wow, you're getting the full treatment. :P [13:21] compl3x: doing great, thank you. :) [13:21] firebird619: doing great [= [13:21] Action: jeev loves coming back to slackware for nfs. [13:22] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [13:22] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.1.129) left irc: ":wq" [13:22] firebird619, it's been two months since i've done any of that it's due time can't let myself go to the toilet [13:23] haha [13:23] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:24] PuroOsso (n=PuroOsso@187.21.16.246) joined ##slackware. [13:24] nix_chix0r: nah, you deserve to go get you're hair done and everything. :) [13:24] firebird619, pervert ! :D [13:24] umislack (i=1000@58.64.92.86) joined ##slackware. [13:24] :O [13:24] haha [13:25] Camarade_Tux: How's it going? (firebird still asks, even after such a comment was made) :P [13:25] sorry :D [13:25] MI1 (n=slapt@92.52.14.4) joined ##slackware. [13:25] you should be :D [13:25] firebird619, nice, and you ? :) [13:25] the cool people have monicles [13:25] doing great, thanks. [13:25] and it *you* who did the comment ;-) [13:25] umislack (i=1000@58.64.92.86) left ##slackware. [13:26] you made the second one. :P [13:26] hi all [13:26] hi [13:27] umislack (i=1000@58.64.92.86) joined ##slackware. [13:28] guys i would apreciade some help if enyone have some free time and patience [13:28] finally my old navy crap has shipped [13:29] when did you order it? [13:29] thursday [13:29] they are slow enough [13:29] MI1: Just go ahead and ask the question, if someone is able to help, they will. [13:29] nix_chix0r: good grief, and it just shipped today. wow. [13:30] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:30] yeah i should have put a rush order on it. i ordered some dress slacks for work [13:30] yep, thanks, will start, cannot use my dvd rom, cannout mount, still gives me following : http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=erorak.png [13:31] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [13:31] using command line i get mount point /mnt/cdrom does not exist [13:31] exbio (n=exbios@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [13:31] rosh_ (n=rosh@e176091030.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [13:31] my fstab http://pastebin.com/d19b92308 [13:31] MI1: looks like your not in the cdrom group. From a terminal type id and look for cdrom. [13:33] hmm, cannot see nothing like cdrom [13:33] bt ~ # id [13:33] uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root),1(bin),2(daemon),3(sys),4(adm),6(disk),10(wheel),11(floppy) [13:33] (not as root) [13:33] this operatins system is running only as root -its backtrack 3 [13:33] :| [13:33] aha [13:34] which is slaxware based i think [13:34] well, this is a slackware support channel. go bug the backtrack guys [13:34] root on irc lol [13:35] compl3x, if you can help then do so, but do not laught on me [13:35] you won't get backtrack help here [13:36] i see, [13:36] ouch [13:37] this distro is based on slaxware + over 300 tools there, so i cant see reason why [13:37] Greyhound|NB (n=Greyhoun@79.114.90.8) joined ##slackware. [13:37] MI1: you're twice removed from real slackware [13:38] :p [13:38] MI1: suse is based on slackware too - look how related they are [13:38] backtrack is heavily modified slackware [13:38] ok then [13:38] so much modified that bt4 will/is be based on ubunutu [13:38] the fact is, on slackware, you'd be in the cdrom group, and hal would handle it (not even listed in /etc/fstab) [13:39] it's not really that we don't want, it's only that bt is very different from regular slack [13:39] Camarade_Tux, i am not running bt4b [13:39] MI1: go to #remote-exploit [13:39] ok, i can see [13:39] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) joined ##slackware. [13:39] thanks in advance [13:39] lets go hack the planet! [13:39] heh, its not about it [13:39] woop woop [13:40] firebird619, at work my outlook wasn't synced with their server and so the tech guy had to remote destkop my computer and i was like . i can do this if you just give me the info [13:40] he all acted like i knew nothing [13:40] nix_chix0r: haha should of went an bitchslapped him [13:40] hmm wonder if bt4 includes metasploit [13:40] nix_chix0r, just yell at im : "I'm a sl4ck3r you n00b" [13:41] compl3x, yes it does [13:41] nix_chix0r: they won't let you run a nix at work? [13:41] don't forget to properly pronoune the l33t-speak btw [13:41] i was telling him " who uses remote desktop anyway" [13:41] MI1: nice [13:41] amazon10x, nope because they dont know anything about it [13:41] i need to give backtrack a try [13:41] how's it work compl3x ? [13:41] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Success [13:41] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:41] compl3x, with over 360 exploits [13:41] jeev: how what work? [13:41] hi folks :-) [13:42] backtrack? heh [13:42] MI1: na im fine with slackware + metasploit [13:42] what's better, backtrack or metasploit [13:42] jeev: metasploit is a collection of exploits - backtrack is a distro :p [13:42] compl3x, download ne svn version, they have implemented keystroke sniffing with meterpreter, interesting stuff [13:42] nix_chix0r: bummer. there's a guy who runs linux at my work. fortunately my place really doesn't care what you do with your computers [13:43] my current system seems to have a delay between the end of the kernel loading and the remaining of the boot [13:43] i want something to mess with wifi [13:43] PuroOsso (n=PuroOsso@187.21.16.246) left irc: "esqueci ligado" [13:43] amazon10x, yeah it's just our program we use i'd have to use wine to use it anyway and they probally wouldn't like that [13:43] MI1: nice - the only use i have for it was trying to hack my bloody hosting company - they refused to give me root access so I couldn't install image extensions with php [13:43] nix_chix0r: VM? [13:44] well whats the point in that:P [13:44] compl3x, nice :H [13:44] nix_chix0r: ]= [13:44] nix_chix0r: yeah we have a program that "checks" your machine. you can get a waiver at my place, or you can just dual boot windows and load it up once a month to make IT happy [13:44] nix_chix0r: so you can be all up in their faces like yeah im slaccckin it and using your crappy software :p [13:44] our stuff has to mesh with social secuirty [13:45] social security? is that the IRS or something? [13:45] nix_chix0r, what do you guys do [13:45] marder_III (n=enneman@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:45] most of the stuff i can do online on the social security website [13:45] i would like to see an dvd evening, so will try on RE, by [13:45] MI1 (n=slapt@92.52.14.4) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:46] jeev, i have to put all the clients info into a rolodex type of thing which is our actual program. and then i fill out forms for the disability, and social security online. set up hearings with judges and do phone appointments about their disablities [13:46] eventually they go to court and get approved or denied. and then they get back pay when they were actually elgible for disability and our company gets 25% of that but no more than 5600 [13:47] have over 3thousand clients [13:47] ah [13:47] 3000*5600=16.8 million? [13:47] high roller alert :P [13:48] basically we get called when people apply for the disability or social secuirty and they get declined almost always and they come to us to appeal it and try to get their money ect [13:48] compl3x, does metapsloit do wifi ? [13:48] jeev: its more of program exploits/ kernel exploits - notwifi cracking [13:48] ahh [13:49] i thought backtrack still had wifi cracking tools? [13:49] like aircrack or something [13:49] jeev: you need aircrack or something [13:49] :-) [13:49] amazon10x: yeah it does -were not talking about bt [13:49] :p [13:49] and a good wifi card that supports it [13:49] lol at metasploit! [13:50] oh, he said metasploit, my bad [13:50] jeev, the ceo is selling his private plane because he's retiring and his son is taking over the company [13:50] cool nix_chix0r [13:50] he asked me if i wanted to buy the plane rofl [13:50] heh [13:50] marder_III (n=enneman@enneman.demon.nl) left ##slackware. [13:51] nix_chix0r: sorry, was afk for a bit. That's to bad he acted that way, like you knew nothing. [13:52] firebird619, it just annoys me because i was an IT for nortwest previously and obviously my job right now has nothing to do with that buti shouldnt have to get remote desktop assistance for something as simple as setting up ms outlook:P [13:53] talking about wireless whats a good wifi monitor tool? [13:53] bijit: wicd [13:53] nix_chix0r: agreed. :) [13:54] lol nix_chix0r i hate idiots... [13:54] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:54] Oh gosh, now there's talk of an LXDE Ubuntu derivative, i.e. Lubuntu. :P [13:54] ty Cann0n [13:55] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-11-57.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:55] np [13:55] firebird619, actually lube-untu is already official :) [13:55] haha, seriously? [13:55] firebird619: lol. once Slackbuntu comes out... im killing someone... [13:55] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:55] firebird619, yeah :D [13:55] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-149-219-196.range86-149.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:55] i need a wifi card that's good [13:56] jeev: google. [13:56] Cann0n: Oh man, I hope there isn't a Slackbuntu. [13:56] the last time i used a webcam on linux was in 2000 has it gotten better as far as support goes? my mom wants me to get one so she can see the baby [13:56] ok, /me has to go through 200 lines of perl, diving and holding my breath [13:56] firebird619: i will go to there house with a baseball bat and go ape shit... [13:56] nix_chix0r: I would say yes, it's gotten better. [13:56] hahaha [13:56] If someone ever goes near making slackbuntu i will personally travel to their house and kill them. [13:56] nix_chix0r, most webcams work and software is ok too [13:57] compl3x: help me hide the bodies? [13:57] Cann0n, i meant for backtrack ;D [13:57] Cann0n: sure :p [13:57] Camarade_Tux, any ideas on the ones that aren't a big pain in the rear? [13:57] If you two (Cann0n and compl3x) do that, you may be the first two to irc in ##slackware from prison. :) [13:57] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:57] we'll write you in jail! [13:57] lol [13:57] jeev: something atheros based.. [13:58] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:58] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.77.244) joined ##slackware. [13:58] haha Jail with Cann0n - could be a laugh [13:58] nix_chix0r: When I used a webcam, I just used my camcorder and a tv tuner card with composite (RCA jack) input. [13:58] nix_chix0r, I know the ali ones are quite annoying (the driver is very recent) and the syntek too (driver is out of tree and a bit unstable), but I mostly know laptop cams [13:58] Cann0n: as long as you smuggle some of your cheap bud [13:59] firebird619: it will be to protect Slackware... 10 years ago i started slackware... and i highly respect slack... [13:59] Cann0n: compl3x, just don't bend over to grab the soap. :P [13:59] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-123-59.ip38.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "leaving" [13:59] i'll make you special brownies [13:59] firebird619: why not haha [13:59] compl3x: lol [13:59] just for the reference - im not gay. [13:59] compl3x, really ? ='( [13:59] compl3x, most people aren't when they first go to jail [14:00] Camarade_Tux: well :p [14:00] firebird619: lol... i'd be worried about the other guys [14:00] haha, no, but you're cell mate might be. [14:00] lol [14:01] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [14:01] lol [14:01] its a lol line :p [14:01] like a conga line, only different. :P [14:01] lol - lol - lol lol lol la - :/ [14:02] nix_chix0r: Do you have a webcam now, or just planning ahead for which one to get that won't be a pain in the rear? [14:03] firebird619, i'll get what ever one that seems less likely to be a pain. i have a logitech from years ago and i want something of a better quality [14:03] yeah, quality has drastically improved. [14:03] nix_chix0r: get a wireless linksys networkcam :p so they can watch you 24/7 haha [14:03] Gigaware webcams dont work on linux [14:03] now that's just creepy [14:04] i dont want them to see what goes on when they aren't here hahah [14:04] DONT get a cheap one... they wont work. plan on spending 30+ USD [14:04] at least $30 [14:04] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [14:06] Isn't there a list out there of ones that are for sure supported? I thought I had seen such a list one time. [14:06] Hakudoshi (i=supergea@71-212-184-180.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [14:06] yeah semme get it [14:06] Hakudoshi (i=supergea@71-212-184-180.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:07] ah, I remember now : gspca has been merged in the kernel earlier this year :) [14:07] http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html [14:07] any word on another release of Slackware? [14:07] skibur: When it's ready. :) [14:08] Nick change: Bugz___ -> Bugz_ [14:08] yes [14:08] :P [14:08] Cann0n: thanks, I knew it was out there somewhere. [14:08] nice [14:08] drop it like its hot *dance* [14:08] and : http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/#devices [14:08] haha [14:08] skibur, just track -current [14:08] nix_chix0r: lol [14:08] it's like a release every 3 days :P [14:08] I shall bow to .txz [14:09] :P [14:09] i just transfered 160gig of music. and the blues traveler is on there haa [14:09] slackware will have drivers for the USB on monitors! [14:09] what is txz? the new package format? how do i get support for this? [14:09] nix_chix0r: You could start your own web cam show. NixChix0r Live. :P [14:09] hahah [14:09] i would bust a move to snoop dogg [14:09] firebird619: youd love that :p [14:09] Snoppy? [14:10] Cann0n: not new package format, but new compression via lzma. [14:10] nix_chix0r: interestd in being in porn? [14:10] Jail porn! [14:10] Cann0n, sure as long as i dont have to sex it up with ron jeremy looking homos [14:10] nix_chix0r: just remember to put a donations button on the page. :P [14:10] with curved wangs [14:10] just get lzma and im good to go? [14:10] nix_chix0r: hahaha [14:11] Cann0n: no, read the changelog [14:11] look at me i have a banana penis [14:11] Cann0n: No, there's more to it than that. [14:11] i'm sexy [14:11] firebird619: do you ever sleep? [14:11] nix_chix0r: hai :o [14:11] tecky: yes [14:11] nix_chix0r: im thinking of making a porn site.... [14:11] tecky: every full moon :p [14:11] rofl hai tecky [14:11] tecky: I get about 7 hours of sleep a night. [14:11] compl3x: lol [14:11] thanks for that list on the cams [14:12] firebird619: which means that you get about 17 hours of ##slackware a day :P [14:12] i think ##slackware is one of my favorite chans [14:12] macavity: wow, I'm in here that much, you guys must be sick of me. :P [14:12] firebird619: noooo [14:12] skibur, not before the corresponding drivers are merged mainline [14:12] ;) [14:13] we should all meet up in like sandusky ohio [14:13] lol [14:13] if i go to -current, will that fuck my shit up? [14:13] up [14:13] yup [14:13] Cann0n: what shit [14:13] Cann0n: yes [14:13] i had a problem with 12.1 to 12.2 [14:13] nix_chix0r: wanna pay for a flight? [14:13] firebird619: i think of you as the perpetual channel pet ;-) [14:13] sure compl3x [14:13] lol macavity [14:13] macavity: hahaha [14:14] firebird619: fortunately you wag your tail more than you bark :P [14:14] #slackware is the best channel ever [14:14] I feel so welcomed and appreciated. [14:14] :P [14:14] Cann0n: +1 [14:14] teehee :P [14:14] me too... i get banned or get in fights with wost people in other channels [14:14] Action: firebird619 begs for a doggy treat. :P [14:14] i could have one of my northwest buddies get you a flight [14:14] i just wish ananke wasnt in here... and then it'd be perect!!!! [14:14] Action: nix_chix0r gives firebird619 a milk boe [14:14] bone [14:15] Cann0n: hush.. [14:15] nix_chix0r: thank you. :) [14:15] lol [14:15] i used to eat milk bones as a kid [14:15] milk bones? [14:15] nix_chix0r: me too [14:15] all dog food taste the same [14:15] the green ones were good [14:15] that requires some explanation.. i am danish, and here bones are not made out of milk :P [14:15] lol [14:16] Cann0n: you've tasted it all? [14:16] i liked that real meat beef snacks.... i took a bunch camping [14:16] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:16] firebird619: ive tasted a lot [14:16] the crunchy kind of cat food isnt bad at all [14:16] Cann0n, likes to start his day with a bowl of beniniful [14:16] lol [14:16] chewy, yummy, smokey, IT"S BACON. :P [14:16] ineed a cig. brb [14:16] Cann0n: good call [14:16] ok, the bootgraph yahoo group is ... different [14:17] "spitshined tall troopersboots of motorcycle police, military, paramilitary. Dedicated to the beauty of boots and the knights who wear them. Photos taken at parades, in public, everything above board." [14:17] beggin strips!ohboy [14:17] Floops (n=baihu@shellium/member/floops) left irc: "changing servers" [14:17] lol [14:17] Action: macavity announces the channel is on a smoke break: all funny remarks are to be put on hold for the time being so the smokers dont get left out of the fun [14:17] haha [14:17] macavity: good call [14:17] i gota go get dressed brb [14:17] nix_chix0r: you're ircing naked? [14:17] aren't you? [14:17] hmmm, pic ! [14:18] Greyhound|NB: Nope, fully clothed. :) [14:18] wow... lame :( [14:18] I would never do that, plus, it's friggen chilly/cold here today. [14:19] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:19] So how are you doing macavity? [14:20] pretty bad, he's coughing right now because of the smoke -_- [14:20] Oh no. [14:21] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.71.214) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:21] antiwire (i=antiwire@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x44033C56) joined ##slackware. [14:22] simNIX (n=simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:24] so how can i get .txz with out going -current? [14:25] you can get only xz from -current [14:25] firebird619: it's hot as hell here [14:25] Cann0n: really, what's the temp? Where you at? [14:25] 95+ [14:25] wow [14:25] boiling water ! \o/ [14:25] :D [14:25] It's suppose to be 81 here tomorrow. [14:25] it's 52 right now [14:26] must be MICE [14:26] i have sunburn like crazy [14:26] MICE? :P [14:26] s/mice/nice [14:26] lol. dvorak [14:26] ah, you use dvorak [14:26] not a single cloud here but the temp is nice too :) [14:27] i need to add a weather temp for conky [14:27] grrr.... im so lazy tho! [14:27] There's some other layout that's suppose to be good and supposedly better, starts with a c. Any ideas what it is, I can't remember. [14:27] Cann0n: want mine? [14:27] all i wanna do is be with my black/latin goddess [14:28] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.71.214) joined ##slackware. [14:28] Did you see my screenshot yesterday with it? [14:28] firebird619: yeah! pastebin it for me! hey, you every get that script about the updates? [14:28] i didnt notice the weather [14:29] Cann0n: Yeah, to diff the changelogs. I changed conky though, that one I had was really dragging the system. I've been using dive's changelog script which uses root-tail. [14:29] im running out of room on my screen for all the conky goodness [14:29] i'm watching the EVA right now [14:29] Hey antiwire, how are you? [14:29] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:29] Cann0n: yeah, I seen that in your screenshot yesterday. :P [14:29] brb, boot-time benchmark :) [14:29] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-110-118.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [14:30] ah... well i dont need the script. i shouldnt plug much more into conky. [14:30] it's not a need, it's a want. :P [14:30] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:30] when im actively doing stuff other than irc, its all lit up [14:30] lol [14:30] they are removing the 111 screw that hold the faceplate on now [14:30] screws* [14:30] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:31] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-110-118.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:31] ok, smoke break is over [14:32] get back to being funny... [14:32] firebird619, no i had sweatpants on [14:32] need to enter my credentials after 12s [14:32] nix_chix0r: hot! [14:32] http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1368163 [14:33] brb [14:33] nix_chix0r, and can we haz ze pic ? :D [14:33] right as i paste it they loose the feed.... [14:33] bbl [14:33] naw i got jeans on now bout to head to my hair apt [14:33] no sex without me! [14:33] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:33] roger [14:33] nix_chix0r, no problem, you can take it tonight :D [14:34] wow, you're kinda creepy :\ [14:34] i'll be back in a few hours, i gota get an oil change, new rear struts, a headlight, and something else i cant remember [14:34] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [14:34] nix_chix0r: see ya later, have a good day. :) [14:34] yosii (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:34] ty [14:34] thrice`, I'll be in bed when nix_chix0r come back anyway ;) [14:35] see you nix_chix0r :) [14:35] Action: Camarade_Tux wonders why his std{out,err} is not properly redirected [14:35] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-11-57.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [14:35] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) joined ##slackware. [14:36] umislack (i=1000@58.64.92.86) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:36] fevel (n=fevel@189.4.233.162) joined ##slackware. [14:37] umislack (i=1000@58.64.92.86) joined ##slackware. [14:37] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:38] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:38] Camarade_Tux: share with us your command [14:39] stybla, I'm moddinf rc.M so I'm not sure there's nothing interfering/elsewhere [14:40] exbio (n=exbios@unaffiliated/exbio) left ##slackware. [14:42] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:43] jp_ (i=1000@68-189-223-157.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:43] What's the secret to getting scroll mouse working? [14:44] editing your xorg.conf? [14:44] raela: Yes...? [14:44] I believe, under inputdevice, protocol auto, Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" [14:46] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.113.116.159) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:46] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.113.116.159) joined ##slackware. [14:47] raela: Ok, thnaks. Will restart X now. [14:47] jp_ (i=1000@68-189-223-157.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:47] and /me will restart computer :) [14:47] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-110-118.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [14:49] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-110-118.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:49] * gtg [14:49] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:50] me_ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [14:50] >< actually stdout and stderr were correctly redirected [14:52] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [14:52] hitest, already back ? :p [14:52] abcde2_ (n=abcde2@75-172-48-173.tukw.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:52] yep) [14:52] :) [14:53] jp_ (i=1000@68-189-223-157.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:54] Got scroll mouse working, but also had to edit /etc/rc.d/rc.gpm and change ps2 to IPMS/2 [14:54] ^^^ That was key ^^^ [14:54] Thanks [14:55] tho [14:56] jp_ (i=1000@68-189-223-157.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:56] rebooting again :) [14:56] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-110-118.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [14:57] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:58] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:00] haha I love ##slackware - one minute everyones talking - all of a sudden .. Stop. [15:00] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "leaving" [15:01] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [15:02] compl3x: what? do you think this is a roundabout? [15:02] eh? [15:02] :P [15:02] - did my last message even arrive? irssi decided to mess up on me :p [15:02] yes [15:02] aha [15:02] that is, unless you said two things [15:02] or 4 [15:03] or 6 [15:03] 21:02 < compl3x> haha I love ##slackware - one minute everyones talking - all of a sudden .. Stop. [15:03] or 8 - who do we appreciate [15:03] koolniczka (n=nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) joined ##slackware. [15:03] macavity: yeah thats it [15:03] i favor 3 [15:03] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [15:03] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:03] mostly because 2 is, despite contrary belif, not a real prime number [15:03] mmm I just found a half smoked ciggerete i forgot to finish smoking [15:04] macavity: its an imposter. [15:04] compl3x: is the ashtray smoking your cigarettes? [15:04] compl3x: it just didnt grow up to be a real number of its own yet [15:04] macavity: no - but i left it there and only just fond it - too busy [15:04] macavity: haha [15:07] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [15:07] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-110-118.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:07] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:08] here it goes, they're going to open the electronics module panel soon [15:09] a whaat? [15:09] Urchlay: live video of the astronauts on EVA working on the hubble [15:10] my buddy and i have just concludec that 60 is a very cooperative number [15:10] any questions? [15:10] *concluded [15:10] Camarade_Tux: are you using m$ windows of any version, or kind? :) [15:11] 60/5/3/2/2 = 1 :) [15:11] stybla, I do, why ? [15:11] Camarade_Tux: that explains :P [15:11] stybla: isnt that kinda like asking people if they like to do it with goats? [15:11] bill goats [15:11] :P [15:11] stybla, the reboots ? :) [15:11] Camarade_Tux: i know you've said rc.6 [15:12] but yes ;) [15:12] stybla, I haven't said rc.6, only rc.M (and maybe rc.S) [15:12] oh, well - whatever :) [15:12] as for my reboots, 11s before logging into slackware (entering my credentials) [15:13] :) [15:14] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [15:14] 60/5/4/3 = 1 .... simpler :) [15:14] again, I plan on starting a slackware-derivative (really closely tracking slackware) for netbooks, if anyone want to join :) [15:14] 60/6/5/2 = 1 [15:15] it IS a very cooperative number, now isnt it? [15:15] Camarade_Tux: i would, by i gave up (or plan to) on netbook. [15:15] Camarade_Tux: what differences are there in your distro compared to Slackware ? [15:15] macavity, sure it is :) [15:15] s/plan/planning/ [15:15] 60/12/5 = 1 [15:15] an my favorite: 60/120*2 = 1 [15:15] the ancient babylonians liked 60, too [15:16] now that should leave all you little matematicians pondering a little about number theory for a while [15:16] appzer0, faster boot, and nicer setup for small screens [15:16] macavity, I have to disagree ! [15:16] (think we get the 60 seconds per minute, 60 minutes per hours, and 360 degrees in a circle from them) [15:17] # 60/120*2 = 1;; [15:17] - : bool = false [15:17] macavity, ^^^^ [15:17] ok u plan to customize isolinux and the kernel i guess, Camarade_Tux [15:18] appzer0, there should be only a few changes to make slackware even better for netbooks :) [15:18] Camarade_Tux: i agree to the fact that you have the right to disagree, but i disagree that this disagreans is disagreable to any size of objectivity that we can agree on [15:18] Action: macavity does some more drugs [15:18] Urchlay: that is correct [15:18] Administrator_ (n=Administ@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [15:18] bojevnik (n=Administ@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:18] macavity, but... [15:18] # 60*2/120 = 1;; [15:19] Urchlay: er, not that i am doing some more drugs, but the inheritance of the use of the number 60 as you depicted above [15:19] - : bool = true [15:19] Camarade_Tux: then your parser has an error [15:19] isolinux was a pita to customize i hated that [15:19] $ perl -le 'print 60/120*2' [15:19] 1 [15:20] Camarade_Tux: http://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&q=60/120*2&btnG=Google-søgning&meta=&aq=f&oq= [15:20] macavity, no, we're operation on integers and since 60/120*2 is (60/120)*2 which is 0*2=0, we have 60/120/2 = 0 [15:20] =) [15:21] appzer0, not necessarily isolinux, lilo or grub would be ok :) [15:21] Camarade_Tux: intdiv 60/120 = 1 [15:21] macavity, that's only for floats, not ints :) [15:21] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:21] Camarade_Tux: uhm, what year CS student did you say you were? [15:22] Camarade_Tux: as last time i checked, floatdiv 60/120 = 0.5 [15:22] macavity, I can't tell you, /me not in the same school system [15:22] macavity, yes, for floats [15:22] Camarade_Tux: are you for real? [15:22] except on like the pentium 1 where it's probably 0.4798939999 or something [15:22] Camarade_Tux: and float2int(0.5) = 1 [15:23] whose float2int() function is that? depends on whether it rounds or truncates [15:23] Camarade_Tux: oh yes indeed you're right. my slack-derivative contains the installer too, which I had to modify at boot time [15:24] stybla, no, not for real, I'm actually complex [15:24] Urchlay: that is the established way of doing it.. you dont do float2int(floor(0.5)) when you mean float2int [15:24] eh, where did the term "float2int" even come from though? [15:24] macavity, btw, I just tested that with gcc -O0 [15:25] Urchlay: that is a pseudo function [15:25] printf("%d\n", 60/120); [15:25] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) joined ##slackware. [15:25] and that gives 0 as it should [15:25] hang on... [15:25] and no, 0.5 *should* be 1 [15:25] 0.49999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 whould be 0 [15:25] macavity, look up for "integer arithmetic" in google [15:26] btw, 2/3 is also 0 [15:26] Camarade_Tux: i've meant about slack-fork for netbooks. [15:26] http://pastie.org/480916 [15:26] that little C program outputs 0, not 1 [15:26] stybla, I really want to [15:27] Camarade_Tux: ok, i'll make a note about that. [15:27] especially, my best friend (girl) plans on buying a netbook and I'd really hate that she uses *buntu [15:27] hot girl ? [15:27] except b00buntu would suit her ^^ [15:27] DeeeeP, well ^^ [15:27] lol [15:28] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [15:28] boob buntu? [15:29] or like n00buntu? [15:29] Camarade_Tux: i've planned too, but i've altered my plans a bit ... and so on. [15:29] for her, that would definitely be boob'untu [15:30] Camarade_Tux: damn... i stand corrected [15:30] stybla, I think that it could be done simply by removing some packages from the installation medium (easy to script), add a few package and then have a package for additional settings :) [15:30] Camarade_Tux: apparently i have forgotten more than i like to admit :-/ [15:30] me_ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:30] macavity, hehe :p [15:31] but only practice reminds you of that, we've been taught that at school and then everybody forgot it [15:31] but yes, it is vital to destinguish between integer division and conversion to integer :P [15:31] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.77.244) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:32] =) [15:32] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.227) joined ##slackware. [15:36] briancro (n=user@c-76-114-201-172.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:38] briancro (n=user@c-76-114-201-172.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:41] anyone recommend a decent xmms search plugin that I dont have to type xmmsfind_remote to launch? [15:43] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:43] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:43] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) joined ##slackware. [15:43] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:45] I'd need somebody to whip me so I code [15:45] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:46] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:46] zmyrgel (n=user@hoasb-ff09dd00-209.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:47] hey everyone. Anyone knows where I can find the slackbuild for xf86-video-radeonhd ? [15:48] knoxville (n=knoxvill@c-76-113-247-176.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:49] Camarade_Tux, i can read code and follow the basic logic and make some changes.. but im a lost ball in high weeds [15:49] couldnt actually code if my life depended onit [15:50] lol60 (n=lol37@abo-103-132-68.bdx.modulonet.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:50] hello [15:51] lol60 (n=lol37@abo-103-132-68.bdx.modulonet.fr) left irc: Client Quit [15:51] VampirePenguin, worse : I should work on a code generator ;) [15:51] Kaapa, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [15:51] lol37 (n=lol37@abo-103-132-68.bdx.modulonet.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:52] Can someone help me ? [15:52] !ask lol37 [15:52] If we knew what you needed help with, maybe.... [15:52] damn bot [15:52] i cannot launch my custom kernel even i have edited /etc/lilo.conf [15:52] umislack (i=1000@58.64.92.86) left irc: "leaving" [15:52] it still launch default kernel [15:52] run lilo [15:52] witch is 2.6.27.7 [15:52] lol37: can you pastebin the lilo.conf and the output of ls -alh /boot [15:52] ah [15:53] Ok [15:53] lol37, have you ran 'lilo' after making your changes ? [15:53] no. [15:53] Why ? [15:53] you have to [15:53] TXD [15:53] XD* [15:53] lilo : command not found [15:53] should i get root ? [15:54] as root. [15:54] yes [15:54] Camarade_Tux: is there a followup for that hmmm? [15:54] Ok [15:54] anyone use wifi? i cant set a key with iwconfig [15:54] Kaapa: hes just trying to look smart :p [15:54] syntax error lol [15:54] jeev: try iwpriv? [15:54] Kaapa, not really, actually I don't know if there is one [15:54] ill take a look [15:54] compl3x :p [15:54] jeev: what kind of key is it? wep or wpa? [15:54] of course there is one, it's an official package [15:54] anyways slackware is great [15:55] i set it from there? [15:55] its the best distro i have tested [15:55] I can only find the slamd one, but I don't know if it's the same [15:55] fred: maybe - just maybe - you know ;) [15:55] Kaapa, can you point me to it ? [15:55] Whats wrong ? [15:55] Camarade_Tux: http://www.lucacireddu.it/listing/pkgs/slack-slamd/drivers/xf86-video-radeonhd/git_200903260014/src/xf86-video-radeonhd.SlackBuild [15:55] root = /dev/sda2 [15:55] image = /boot/vmlinuz [15:55] label = Linux [15:55] Channel flood from lol37 -- kicking [15:55] read-only [15:55] lol37 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [15:55] lol37 (n=lol37@abo-103-132-68.bdx.modulonet.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:56] ge0rge007 (n=ge0rge@f71-60.fdsl.aegean.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:56] jeev: WEP can be done via iwconfig, WPA must done be done via wpa_supplicant [15:56] lol37: pastebin [15:56] ? [15:56] ahh [15:56] lol37: http://www.pastebin.com [15:56] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:56] NaCl: he has me on ignore [15:56] http://pastebin.com/m192f84f1 [15:57] PuroOsso (n=PuroOsso@187.21.16.246) joined ##slackware. [15:57] antiwire: gotcha [15:58] lol37: Is that it? [15:58] jeev: hey [15:58] yes [15:58] Could anyone recommend a good program for editing ogg theora files? I have a video file that has blackbars, etc. that I made with recordmydesktop and I want to hopefully remove the bars from it. [15:58] dont work [15:58] I got syntax error [15:58] its the end of the file [15:59] You may want to try liloconfig [15:59] stef_208 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: "OOH" [15:59] Anakin- (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [15:59] mencoder/mmpeg [16:00] firebird619: widescreen video format? probably nothing you can do in change that, its in the aspect ratio [16:00] lol37 (n=lol37@abo-103-132-68.bdx.modulonet.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:00] firebird619: transcode [16:00] Cann0n (n=jack@c-66-176-76-236.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [16:01] Kaapa, honestly, no idea, but you may get slamd64's and port the necessary parts (should be very straight-forward) [16:01] firebird619: but beware... it asumes that you are a multimedia expert, and the man page is used in eastern europe to scare little children with before bedtime... [16:01] Pig_Pen: Nah, I recorded a web stream and I specified to recordmydesktop the x and y coordinates of the screen to record, but it recorded the whole screen anyway. So it isn't 16:9, just I want to remove everything around the video. [16:01] macavity: hahaha, that bad eh? [16:01] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [16:01] firebird619: could you send me your conkyrc? [16:01] Cann0n: sure, np. [16:02] send or pastebin? [16:02] macavity: what about rpm's man page? :P [16:02] which ever is easiet for you :) [16:02] NaCl: i have never read it, and i never will..... [16:02] Camarade_Tux: I know that, but I'd rather start from the official slackbuild [16:02] macavity, nah, it's gcc's manpage which is used to scae children :p [16:02] aren't those public? [16:02] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:02] nix_chix0r: what do chicks like to do for fun? [16:02] im so out of the game... [16:02] Camarade_Tux: actually i find gccs manpage rather well organiced.. its big, yes, but easy to figure out [16:03] macavity: Lucky you. [16:03] Camarade_Tux: ok, i happen to know a bit about compilers in general, so that might ease the burden a little :P [16:03] NaCl: i am no infidel! :P [16:03] cbpye (n=cbpye@c-71-229-61-232.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [16:04] well damn! that's expensive :( [16:04] Cann0n: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/13801 [16:04] macavity: I have the "honor" of making rpm packages for wicd. :P [16:04] NaCl: s/honor/horror/ :P [16:04] Cann0n: and here's how it looks: http://imagebin.org/49288 [16:05] Kaapa, I grep'ed my slackware's source and got nothing [16:05] macavity: Spec files get the job done until you try to compensate for each distro that needs to use them. >_< [16:05] thanx dude! [16:05] yw [16:05] NaCl: run you ass off.. there is plenty of room for good hackers in the slackware community.. there is no reason you sould degrade yourself and all that is dear to you in such an inhumane way :P [16:06] *should [16:06] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [16:06] NaCl: just write "use the source mook!" where the rmp files should have been :P [16:06] firebird619: care to share that background? [16:07] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430477.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:07] goaty (n=goaty@dsl-242-121-28.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [16:07] BP{k}: hey, by any chance do you know if slackware's slackbuilds are publicly available from somewhere? [16:07] Kaapa: ....... [16:07] slackbuilds.org [16:07] hitest: no. [16:08] what? [16:08] Kaapa, anywhere in slackware's source/ [16:08] Kaapa: they are in the source/ directory on your local ftp mirror.... [16:08] Kaapa: tried looking in the source/ directory?? [16:08] on the dvd [16:08] :P [16:08] I've googled for it and even used find on the mirror [16:08] yes [16:08] or, as Camarade_Tux says, on the DVD [16:08] sources folder.. [16:08] but I'll look again! [16:08] uva (i=bno@118-168-232-251.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:08] gah......misread the question [16:08] http://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-current/source/x/ [16:08] ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2/source/ [16:09] nathanbw (n=nathan@74.179.67.236) joined ##slackware. [16:09] sorry [16:09] lftp ftp.osuosl.org:/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2/source/x/x11> find | grep radeonhd [16:09] ./slack-desc/xf86-video-radeonhd [16:09] I can only find this [16:09] ./src/driver/xf86-video-radeonhd-1.2.3.tar.bz2 [16:09] macavity: I don't actually run the distros, I just write a spec file and some complicated system builds them for me. [16:10] ok, I assume I'm just being stupid / blind, but what am I missing? [16:10] Kaapa: ah, the x series is build with a larger script [16:10] NaCl, didn't the Egyptians employ the same strategy for building the pyramids? [16:10] BP{k}: sure, why not. http://imagebin.org/49358 . I got it from deviant art. I'll post that link to when I find it. [16:10] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-71-202-96-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "GONE!" [16:10] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.91.123) joined ##slackware. [16:10] Kaapa: that is, the xorg.SlackBuild does them all in a common way, except for the ones that need special treatment [16:10] I need to upgrade the radeonhd driver, what's the suggested method? [16:11] Kaapa, cry :D [16:11] you may call your mother too :) [16:11] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:12] ccfreak2k: Yeah, something like that. Except that VMs are created for the sole purpose of making a single package... [16:12] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) joined ##slackware. [16:12] Kaapa: untar; cd dir; ./configure --prerix=/usr && make && DESTDIR=/tmp/my-radeonhd make install && cd /tmp/my-radeonhd; makepkg -c y -l y xf86-video-radeonhd-n.n.n-1Kappa.txz [16:12] goaty (n=goaty@dsl-242-121-28.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: "Leaving" [16:13] s/prerix/prefix/ :) [16:13] Kaapa: that is roughly the short way of doing it.. "real" slackbuilds does a little more [16:13] Camarade_Tux: typos are intentional to avoid copy/pasteing fools :P [16:14] firebird619: That new desktop looks super sexy. [16:14] Kaapa: that is, they also strip the binaries, but i will leave it as an exercice for you to figure out how to make a suitable slackbuild [16:14] Kaapa: i suggest you read a couple of slackbuilds, then things will become painfully clear [16:14] Kaapa: really, it is as easy as eating cake [16:14] agentc0re: thanks. Took some time to configure, but I got it to where I really like it. [16:14] firebird619: You make me want to play with flux a bit. [16:15] agentc0re: what do you use now? [16:15] firebird619: xfce [16:15] firebird619: At work i use bblean for my winbloze box, which is very similar to flux. [16:16] Well, if you're on xfce now, why not go a little more lightweight and try flux. :P [16:16] macavity, I see :) [16:16] agentc0re: The joy is, if ya don't like it, go back to xfce. :P [16:16] firebird619, s/flux/openbox/ :) [16:16] Camarade_Tux: stfu :p [16:16] haha [16:17] Camarade_Tux: them's fighten words by compl3x, what ya gonna do? :P [16:17] compl3x, s/stfu/I love you/ [16:17] :D [16:17] lol [16:17] lol [16:17] love is in the air, everywhere you look around. :P [16:17] fidesratio (n=fidesrat@80-42-247-12.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [16:17] Camarade_Tux: no. [16:17] Thanks Camarade_Tux, now I got those lyrics stuck in my head. THANKS ALOT. [16:18] fidesratio (n=fidesrat@80-42-247-12.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:18] firebird619, lyrics for which song ? [16:18] is that rick'roll ? [16:18] ok, in freebsd 'watch' actually takes over a TTY; in slackware 'watch' just repeats a command (*gnuwatch*)-- what is slackware's equivelant of freebsd's watch? [16:18] i need to take over someone's TTY to troubleshoot something [16:18] Camarade_Tux: I don't know, I heard it on a commecial once "love is in the air, everywhere you look around" [16:18] Some jewelry store. [16:19] probably around valentines day. :P [16:19] dartmouth: you can use screen for that [16:19] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) joined ##slackware. [16:19] yeah but as root I should be able to just take over any TTY [16:19] without that user doing anything to set it up [16:20] firebird619, I think that's for this song : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 [16:20] k, I'll check that out in a sec. [16:20] didn't know it [16:21] PuroOsso (n=PuroOsso@187.21.16.246) left irc: "esqueci ligado" [16:23] no one here knows how to take over a tty as root? [16:23] no, do you? [16:23] no that's why I'm asking lol [16:23] firebird619: wipe it out with this one, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpHLEm9-0bg [16:23] uva_ (i=bno@118-168-233-21.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [16:24] in freebsd you just do `watch tty0` and its good [16:24] as root anyway [16:24] oh, come on, this is turning a 5 minute thing into an hour long thing [16:24] Camarade_Tux: nope, the one I was thinking of is this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNC0kIzM1Fo [16:24] i told you a solution already [16:25] screen can do what you want so you can use screen or keep wondering [16:25] agentc0re: haha, nice. [16:25] screen can't take over a tty I thought unless the target term is running in screen as well [16:25] have the user setup a screen for multiuser [16:27] firebird619, I only needed to rick'roll one more person today :) [16:27] my next rick'roll should be a letter, snail-mail, with the lyrics of the song ;p [16:27] lol [16:27] oh, jesus of nazareth--- root can't just do this without user setup? [16:27] Action: dartmouth begins forming new conclusions about the comparison between *bsd and linux [16:28] dartmouth: you could strace their shell [16:28] Camarade_Tux: yeah, I figured. :P. [16:28] Hey Urchlay, how are you? [16:28] firebird619 :D [16:28] hey fbird [16:28] macavity: thanks, doing it! [16:28] Can you compare bsd and linux - isnt bsd unix? [16:29] oh here we go [16:29] you can compare ford and chevy, so why not linux and unix? [16:29] antiwire (i=antiwire@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x44033C56) left ##slackware ("()"). [16:29] compl3x: well, i mean this is a really simple thing in bsd. a user can shell in, and you as root, can take over and share, or just watch their session, but in linux apparently you can't do that unless the user sets up screen for multiuser. [16:29] dartmouth: hmm [16:29] dartmouth: there's "ttysnoop" [16:29] from a security standpoint, this makes no sense to me [16:30] it requires root to set things up ahead of time, but once that's done it's done [16:30] Urchlay: I meant comparing bsd directly - not as unix in general [16:30] I remember there is something in bsd to take a screenshot of the console, nothing similar in linux [16:30] compl3x: these are userland tools [16:30] malconxx (n=malconxx@unaffiliated/malconxx) joined ##slackware. [16:30] Camarade_Tux: if you run framebuffer console on linux, you can take a screenshot with "cat /dev/fb0 > snapfile" or the like [16:31] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:32] confrey (n=dario@94.162.191.196) joined ##slackware. [16:32] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:32] Urchlay, hmm, right, seems so but : file a [16:32] a: data [16:33] hi everybody [16:33] hey confrey [16:33] Camarade_Tux: Which would require a lot of parsing to root out ANSI colors and formatting and whatnot [16:34] oh, jeez, there's no excuse for this. this will affect my os choice on alot of the machines I work with-- good to know. [16:35] firebird619: what do i need for it? [16:35] doesnt wanna work [16:35] NaCl, actually some tools can do that and quite successfully but they can't do real screenshots, they usually spit out text, sometimes html [16:35] Cann0n: for which part, the weather? [16:35] Camarade_Tux: it's raw pixels. imagemagick can convert it to something else [16:36] I see. Cool. :) [16:36] Urchlay, how would you do that, I tried a simple command and it didn't want [16:36] or do you give a specific extension to your file ? [16:36] somebody may be can help me.... I compiled asus_eee.ko module [16:36] bunch of errors in the conkyforcast.py i found on google [16:36] but make install don't work [16:36] sloinn (n=adam@84.19.44.79) joined ##slackware. [16:37] confrey, where did you get it ? [16:37] Cann0n: In the conkyrc file, you need to replace "your_code_here" with your cities weather code. [16:37] I have that module installed, but modprobe doesn't know that [16:37] stef_208 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [16:37] i did [16:37] Camarade_Tux: googlecode [16:37] just get a recent kernel, that module is part of mainstream now [16:37] please help, may day, http://en.pastebin.ca/1425759 [16:37] Camarade_Tux: if I actually ran framebuffer I'd try it :) [16:37] Cann0n: Camarade_Tux got a pastebin or anything if your errors? [16:37] err. sorry. [16:37] lol [16:38] :P, I don't know how the heck that happened, [16:38] error_de1eloper_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:38] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:38] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:38] I didn't even type a c to even get tab completion. :P [16:38] firebird619, you have parkinson and you just pressed CC :D [16:39] I know I don't have parkinsons. :P Good thought though. [16:39] Cann0n: Did you use your zip code? If so, that's the issue. [16:39] shred is in core-utils correct?... i cant get it to work and i knwo how to use the switches [16:39] no, i did the code right. its on error in the .py [16:40] idex out of range [16:40] mziulu (i=52555923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-83e4aa055d4eff0c) joined ##slackware. [16:40] Camarade_Tux: one thing I do know, you have to tell imagemagick that it's raw pixel data, *and* you have to tell it the geometry (X by Y pixels) [16:40] index [16:40] Cann0n: Hmm, just a thought, that probably won't work, but anyway, change the .py to .sh and change the respective lines in conkyrc to .sh as well. remember to make it executable. [16:41] malconxx (n=malconxx@unaffiliated/malconxx) left irc: "[BX] Reserve your copy of BitchX-1.1-final for the Atari 2600 today!" [16:41] People are still using BX, huh? [16:42] Cann0n: Eh, looking at the script, I'm sure that won't work. [16:42] farking local newspaper wan't $9/day for a 24 word ad :/ [16:43] s/wan't/wants/ [16:43] NaCl: old IRC clients never die, they just go idle... [16:43] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:43] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430477.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:43] Cann0n: out of curiousity, what does ls /var/log/packages/*python* return? [16:43] sloinn (n=adam@84.19.44.79) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:43] Urchlay: [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] [16:43] ? [16:44] Urchlay, http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12777 [16:44] nearly working [16:44] /var/log/packages/dbus-python-0.83.0-i486-1 /var/log/packages/python-2.5.2-i486-4 [16:45] Hmm, I have an extra one of python-xlib. Not saying that's the issue, but it could be. [16:45] mziulu (i=52555923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-83e4aa055d4eff0c) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [16:46] yeah thats it... it handles streaming protocols... [16:46] so, I have this : modprobe -l |grep asus_eee finds the moduel, but modprobe asus_eee says module not found [16:46] Cann0n: alright, install that then and ya should be golden. :) [16:46] thank dude [16:46] s/thank/thanks [16:46] yw [16:46] linfan (n=linfan@linfan.broker.freenet6.net) joined ##slackware. [16:47] Camarade_Tux: I've decided I'm going to blame the keyboard for my typographical errors. How's that sound? :P [16:47] firebird619, it's *always* the keyboard's fault ;) [16:47] fevel (n=fevel@189.4.233.162) left irc: Connection reset by peer [16:47] Well, why can't it be. [16:47] fevel (n=fevel@189.4.233.162) joined ##slackware. [16:48] yeah, that's the only possible explanation [16:48] nope [16:48] that and my chair has a leak in it so it keeps falling and then I get to low and it's uncomfortable to type until I raise the chair again. :P [16:49] linfan (n=linfan@linfan.broker.freenet6.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:49] Urchlay, I can't get it ;) [16:49] sure, linux can do it, sure it's not easy [16:49] Action: firebird619 starts a "get a new chair" donation bucket. :P [16:50] firebird619: I had one like that. Wrote to the chair manufacturer and they sent me a new gas cylinder [16:50] can anybody help me? [16:50] NyteOwl: nice. I'm not sure what the company is of this one, I'll have to look into that. Thanks. [16:50] confrey, depmod ? [16:51] np [16:51] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:51] greetings and salutations [16:51] greetings andarius [16:52] NyteOwl: Nightingale Inc in Toronto. [16:52] salutations Camarade_Tux [16:52] Salutations andarius, how are you? [16:52] i am well firebird619, you ? [16:52] nathanbw (n=nathan@74.179.67.236) left irc: "Leaving" [16:52] doing very well, thank you. [16:52] Camarade_Tux: I'll try [16:52] firebird619: sounds like my chair maker. It was a while ago so I forget now [16:52] hi andarius [16:53] IrquiM (n=irquim@157.80-202-203.nextgentel.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:53] Camarade_Tux: can you make that framebuffer dump file available somewhere? [16:53] firebird619: no go. can you email your forecast.py? i found 3 with the same name and none work :( [16:53] on a web server, or dcc it to me? [16:53] NyteOwl: Yeah, I may have to call them or something. I really need a new chair though, this one even when it's raised as high as it'll go it's still a little lower than I'd like it. [16:54] Cann0n: sure, sec. [16:54] k thanks [16:54] Urchlay, it's 8MB, opefully gzip compresses it down to 160KB ;p [16:54] salutations NyteOwl [16:54] Action: Camarade_Tux wonders if he has xz :D [16:54] nope ='( [16:54] firebird619: I want to get an extended use chair. designed for 24/7 use by peorple upt to 400#. I sat in one in a office supply palce and it was the msot comfortable desk chair I ever tried [16:54] $700 though [16:54] _Floops (n=baihu@2001:470:a073:0:0:0:0:200) joined ##slackware. [16:55] yikes, $700, did it give massages, make coffee, and have a foot rest too? [16:55] Camarade_Tux: it's probably very compressible, it's probably mostly black pixels, which are zero-bytes... [16:55] no, but it had a lifetime warranty :) [16:56] NyteOwl: start saving up. :) [16:56] Urchlay, and maybe two Tuxes at the top ;p [16:56] anyway don't xz it, I haven't installed xz here either [16:56] haha, I work for the company who makes office-chair cylinders :) [16:56] thrice`: seriously? [16:56] (currently using slamd64 12.1, no need for xz yet) [16:57] Camarade_Tux: .... it works now....thaanks [16:57] Urchlay, yeah, I just checked, slamd64 doesn't have xz in -current ;) [16:57] Nick change: _Floops -> Floops [16:58] confrey, yw but I really think you should get a more recent kernel, like 2.6.29 which slackware has and just enable CONFIG_EEE in the kernel [16:58] not real interested in running -current anyway (maybe in a vm, if I were less lazy, but not as my actual OS) [16:58] Camarade_Tux: is there a ready kernel package? [16:59] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:59] stevek (n=fidesrat@80-42-247-12.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [16:59] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-156-88.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:59] stevek (n=fidesrat@80-42-247-12.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:59] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) left irc: ":wq" [17:00] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-156-88.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:00] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:01] confrey, you can get the source from slackware's or kernel.org and you have the config with 'zcat /proc/config.gz > .config', make menuconfig, find the config for the eee (you can just '/' and search), and recompile, install [17:01] using an initrd or the -huge kernel ? [17:01] the huge [17:01] but I HOPE [17:01] excuse caps [17:02] s0d0 (n=john@host86-175-193-98.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:02] Urchlay, http://pers.yaxm.org/temp/a.gz [17:02] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [17:02] yarvin (n=yarvin@42-57-74-65.gci.net) joined ##slackware. [17:03] Camarade_Tux: what resolution/depth is your framebuffer console? [17:03] I was hoping to find a precompiled kernel so I haven't to compile it again... :) [17:04] purvesh (n=purvesh@203.194.105.100) joined ##slackware. [17:04] I'm using kde 3.5.10, is it normal very slow cursor movements in Konsole while running compiz? [17:05] Urchlay, 1280x800, should be 32K (and I tried to convert it from 32, that may be why) [17:06] does anyone have any idea why shred is not working when it is installed with coreutils adn is in /usr/bin/shred [17:07] confrey, hmmm, maybe, have to check [17:08] Urchlay, haha, it may be a black image ;p [17:08] your file size is 8192000 bytes... 8192000/(1280*800) = 8, wonder why there are 8 bytes per pixel [17:09] nah, it's not all black, I looked at it with xxd and there are non-zero bytes [17:09] maybe 64K then, I can't remember [17:09] what happens if you "cat a > /dev/fb0"? [17:09] Urchlay, somehow I'm not sure I'd like to try [17:09] why not? what's supposed to happen is, it shows the image... harmless [17:10] Cann0n: It's sent. [17:11] Urchlay, ok, just a minute [17:11] I can't find -current's .config [17:11] russo (n=russo@about/goats/goatjockey/russo) joined ##slackware. [17:12] hey guys how can i supply the input to a program from a text file :P [17:12] i.e. answer Y and n to questions that come up [17:12] Urchlay, ok, it is NOT my tty, it is my X [17:14] you using framebuffer driver in X? [17:14] russo, homer simpson has a drinking bird that can help [17:15] Urchlay, no, nvidia's [17:15] corte (n=corte@cpe-024-074-144-179.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:15] (i.e. I don't know what nvidia does but I know it somehow uses the fb) [17:15] hey, does anyone know if it's possible to route traffic from one NIC to another? [17:15] tank-man: you have a tip for me ? :P [17:15] odd. I wouldn't have expected that to happen... [17:16] Camarade_Tux: what0s about downloading and installing 2.6.29 from current? kenrl and modules? [17:16] confrey, it may be in recent kernels but I'm not sure [17:16] a mechanical device like this can do it but not very efficient http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD8sTN9HpoE [17:16] IrquiM (n=irquim@157.80-202-203.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [17:17] lol tank-man i just got your joke [17:17] russo: something like "echo yes | setup.sh" [17:17] hey, I'll need to get xz :p [17:17] thrice`, 'yes' :) [17:18] if its an interactive program, i don't think you can use a pipe | to get input [17:18] < [17:18] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:18] fevel (n=fevel@189.4.233.162) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:18] yeah [17:19] | isn't working [17:19] fevel (n=fevel@189.4.233.162) joined ##slackware. [17:19] bummer :( no clue then [17:19] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:19] russo : you'd need something like 'expect' [17:20] hmm [17:20] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [17:21] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:23] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.91.123) left irc: "Leaving." [17:23] russo : of course, the ideal approach would be to use whatever facility given software has for automated input. not all software has it, but there may be another. what are you trying to automate? [17:23] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.91.123) joined ##slackware. [17:24] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.91.123) left irc: Client Quit [17:25] actually i'll come clean and say that for the hell of it i'm attacking my virtual machines and trying to figure out a way to login given a password [17:25] briancron (n=user@c-76-114-201-172.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:25] assuming its impossible to setup ssh keys [17:26] boot up in single user mode, tada [17:26] ? [17:26] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:26] russo : what exactly are you trying to accomplish by that? [17:27] i'm just learning bash [17:27] interesting approach. well, like i said: use expect [17:28] Camarade_Tux: hm. I just attempted to write a perl script using Image::Magick to convert your raw pixels into a png file [17:29] but the results came out garbage :( [17:29] confrey, I checked : slackware-current's kernel has CONFIG_EEEPC_LAPTOP compiled-in as a module so you can use that if you want [17:29] ananke: yeah i think you got me started in the right direction, than you [17:30] thank [17:30] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:30] Urchlay =/ [17:31] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.13.197) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:31] ananke: i'm getting the feeling tis much easier to do in python [17:32] russo : very likely. bash is limited in terms of more advanced programming, and the idea is that you'll be simply calling external software for such advanced functions [17:32] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:33] Nick change: Vlad`de`Niver -> AbsTradELic [17:34] fidesratio (n=fidesrat@80-42-247-12.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [17:34] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.5.196) joined ##slackware. [17:36] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [17:36] briancron (n=user@c-76-114-201-172.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:37] hello happy slackers [17:37] Hey LnxSlck, how are you? [17:38] evening LnxSlck [17:38] hello guys [17:38] fine and you ? [17:38] doing great, thanks. :) [17:38] :) [17:39] fidesratio (n=fidesrat@80-42-247-12.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:39] Camarade_Tux: apparently the pixels aren't stored as sequential r/g/b values like I thought... [17:40] ah it appears the syntax was changed so that the file is over written iin its contents but not removed unless you use -u switch..... little buggers [17:41] if someone got you an expensive car, would you take it? [17:41] Urchlay, seems so [17:41] ananke: to be honest i just am trying to figure out what can and can't be done in bash, and the more and more i've done this the more i think i should learn python :P [17:43] eh [17:43] nobody wants to answer heh [17:43] jeev: depends on what strings were attached [17:43] no strings [17:43] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:43] no such thing [17:43] you've worked for them and done well.. reward [17:43] i know there's always strings attached [17:43] i can certainly afford any car i want but i keep my truck because it's versaticle [17:43] versatile [17:43] like if it's your parents, the implicit attached string might be that they can take it away from you if you don't do what they want [17:44] but i dunno, i had an odd feeling and saw it today when i went but maybe that was someone elses [17:44] if it's a girl, you're not allowed to break up with her (or if you're not dating her, you're required to start...) [17:44] lol [17:44] na i'm going overboard [17:44] Urchlay: sating is easy [17:44] no car. it's ok, i can get any high end car i want for a few days when i want [17:44] i have bad luck with them [17:44] Hey thumbs, how's it going? [17:44] firebird619: no bad, you? [17:45] doing great, thank you. :) [17:45] every car i've had (someone elses) has been hit (not by me) except a ferrari, i smashed the carbon fiber lip (NOT MY FAULT, he said it'd go into the garage) lol [17:45] Action: firebird619 sends jeev to driving school. :P [17:45] you've had a ferrari? [17:45] exbio (n=exbios@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [17:45] heh [17:45] firebird619, i told him it wouldn't go, he said do it [17:46] wasn't mine Urchlay [17:46] my friends [17:46] you wrecked someone else's ferrari? [17:46] every time i deal with a high end car, someone hits it [17:46] id idnt wreck it, it was 10k damage, wasn'tm y fault [17:46] is he still your friend? :) [17:46] yea [17:46] he must be a rich friend [17:46] he must be a really nice friend [17:46] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:46] :/ [17:46] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:47] hey Camarade_Tux: http://www.sfires.net/fbshot/ [17:48] DeeeeP (i=1003@bl4-204-176.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [17:48] Urchlay: that's cool, there's also http://hem.bredband.net/gmogmo/fbgrab/ [17:49] Urchlay, nah, too easy :D [17:49] that one's based on fbshot [17:49] that's who i think got me something [17:49] but i dont think he did, i'm just paranoid [17:49] Why do you think he got you something? [17:49] i dunno, tingly feeling [17:50] simNIX (n=simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) joined ##slackware. [17:50] ah, I see [17:50] Camarade_Tux: what, you want to make your own? [17:50] paissad (n=paissad@111.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [17:51] firebird619, now, just wanna use cat and convert ;) [17:51] ah, ok. :) [17:51] am not so sure "convert" will do the job, now that I actually look at it... [17:52] Camarade_Tux: cat to get the screenshot and convert to make it png? Is that what you're trying? [17:52] I can't even test without rebooting... /bin/ls: cannot access /dev/fb0: No such file or directory [17:52] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:52] (I don't actually like the framebuffer console much, so I put 'vga=normal' in lilo.conf, in case you're wondering...) [17:54] I tried putting my vga=318 in lilo.conf and I get a blank screen when I have that during bootup, I remove it and it's fine. [17:55] Urchlay, I like having my console in 1280x800 :) [17:55] firebird619, you lack some option :) [17:55] Camarade_Tux: evidently. :( I fail. [17:55] stupid lakers [17:56] firebird619, i feel like he got it but then i feel like he was talking about something else [17:56] if you want, I can help you find what you need :) [17:56] It always used to work, I haven't changed a single thing in there except adding a new kernel when I build it. [17:56] fevel (n=fevel@189.4.233.162) left irc: Client Quit [17:56] jeev: Guess you'll have to wait and see. :) [17:56] i dont think the one i saw was it, think that was someone elses [17:56] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:56] anyone know a simple way to view the 0x238E6B color ? [17:56] plus, it's one model less than i wanted lol [17:57] or maybe html, but I'm too lazy :) [17:57] http://www.drpeterjones.com/colorcalc/ [17:57] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-143-247-211.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:57] fundamental (n=fundamen@24-148-122-247.ip.mhcable.com) joined ##slackware. [17:58] Camarade_Tux: ignore that link - i got the wrong bookmark :p [17:58] Camarade_Tux: but it willwork [= [17:59] compl3x yeah, it works :) [17:59] thanks [17:59] and the result is : I don't know how it is stored in the framebuffer :D [17:59] nw [= [17:59] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-149-219-196.range86-149.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:00] ge0rge007 (n=ge0rge@f71-60.fdsl.aegean.gr) left ##slackware. [18:01] Camarade_Tux: I don't use the console except in two situations: (1) I just booted and haven't run startx yet, or (2) I somehow crashed X or locked it up and had to kill it [18:01] Urchlay, yeah, same for me [18:01] but then I want to have ab ok resolution [18:02] and since my screen is 16/10, not 4/3... [18:02] Urchlay: same :p [18:02] and as the docs say : [18:02] * Most important: boot logo :-) [18:02] so I don't give a damn what resolution it's in... however, vga=normal vs. graphics framebuffer, if I have to read man pages, the framebuffer scrolls very slowly... [18:02] Urchlay, yeah, but that's ok for me as I don't stay long in the console [18:03] yeah but if I've horked X up, I might be stuck in console until I can figure out how to fix it :) [18:04] haha, I like the framebuffer doc : [18:04] 31 = /dev/fb31 32nd frame buffer [18:04] yeah, 32 framebuffers ! [18:05] Camarade_Tux: what's the command to see what fb resolutions are supported? I can't remember it now and I just asked the other day. :( I fail again. [18:06] simNIX (n=simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:06] jeev: the lakers win? I wasn't watching. [18:06] firebird619, you can read the doc, search on google or set one, reboot, see it fails and have your computer/grub/the kernel list the available resolutions for you [18:06] that's usually how I do it [18:07] Camarade_Tux: Ok, I was asking because I know there's some other command out there that gives more than what adding a line to lilo does. started with a v. [18:07] Urchlay, firebird619, /dev/fb has more than raw pixels, it also contains various settings afaict [18:07] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:08] hm. whoever wrote the Makefile for fbgrab, I want to smack him with a large trout... "splint is required to build", BS [18:08] firebird619, I wasn't sure but googled a bit and I think you were looking for vbeinfo [18:08] Action: firebird619 is glad he's not the one who wrote the makefile [18:09] which is part of grub [18:09] splint ?? [18:10] Camarade_Tux: Ah ha, that's it, but I use lilo, but I've used that vbeinfo on slack. I haven't looked myself, I have a something compiling, another thing encoding, and therefore the pc is running slow. :( [18:10] Action: Camarade_Tux googled and I don't think splint should be required to *build*, the programmer should check before releasing [18:10] correct [18:10] firebird619, you can get vbeinfo without grub [18:10] which is why he deserves a trout-smackin' [18:10] Camarade_Tux: yeah, that's how I did it I'm sure. Thank you. :) [18:10] b0rken build system but it's possible [18:11] sure, edit Makefile, delete the splint command [18:11] shingoshi (n=shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:11] How do I remove the nvidia drivers I installed yesterday? [18:12] removepkg [18:12] shingoshi: did you use nvidias script? [18:12] I installed the proprietary drivers. [18:13] compl3x Yes I did/ [18:13] shingoshi, slackbuild -> removepkg, nvidia's installer -> run the nvidia installer again with --uninstall (I think that's the switch) [18:13] run nvidia-uninstall [= [18:13] /usr/bin/nvidia-uninstall [18:13] oh yeah, /usr/bin/nvidia-uninstall [18:13] Thank you. Nothing I've tried allows me to use X. [18:14] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-100-88.ip38.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [18:14] :P [18:14] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-83-112.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:14] It always locks up after being in X for a few minutes. [18:14] gram (i=graham@mknod.org) left ##slackware. [18:15] Would my machine being overclocked have anything to do with this? [18:15] ?? [18:16] What do you think [18:16] shingoshi: yes [18:16] Yes of course [18:16] It's stable without the nvidia drivers installed. [18:16] joeDeuce (n=joeDeuce@32.130.128.233) joined ##slackware. [18:16] http://backtrack.offensive-security.com/index.php/HCL:Wireless#Belkin_F5D6020_v3 shows that it's RTL8180, why does the system pull up orinco ? [18:16] shingoshi: go back to default and try again [18:16] but i cant guarantee because i dunno the revision [18:17] reminds me of when I tried to use an external projector with my graphic card being underclocked so much it could barely stand my regular display :) [18:17] I'm using the 185.19 drivers. [18:17] shingoshi, well, try without overclocking [18:17] simNIX (n=simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) joined ##slackware. [18:18] ok. I'll see what happens. [18:18] If that doesn't work, I'm removing the drivers then. [18:19] antiwire (i=antiwire@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x44033C56) joined ##slackware. [18:19] simNIX (n=simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [18:19] I'd rather remove the overclocking [18:19] the 'nv' driver is going to be painful [18:19] simNIX (n=simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) joined ##slackware. [18:20] shingoshi: have you oc'ed your card or you cpu [18:20] You don't have an overclocked machine, or you wouldn't be saying that. [18:20] cpu! [18:20] did it crash before you overclocked it? [18:20] NO! [18:20] shingoshi: I dont have an overclocked machine o.0 [18:20] well, then, what did you do that caused it to start crashing...? [18:21] I installed the nvidia drivers. [18:21] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [18:21] shingoshi: stop shouting your making me upset [18:21] :p [18:21] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:21] you installed the nvidia drivers before or after you overclocked? (in other words have you ever tried the nvidia drivers without the overclocking?) [18:21] I've never run my machine without the overclock. [18:22] shingoshi: then go put it back to defaults and try again - gr [18:22] ah. Well try it. Don't have to leave it that way necessarily, but that's the first step in troubleshooting [18:22] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [18:22] The processor I had in here before was overclocked. I brought this one for even higher speeds. [18:22] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: "êîãäà ÿ óìåð íåáûëî íèêîãî, êòî áû ýòî îïðîâåðã" [18:22] if it still crashes when not overclocked, then the overclocking wasn't the problem [18:23] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [18:23] Why should the cpu being overclocked effect the video drivers? [18:23] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-239-252.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [18:23] why shouldn't it? [18:23] shingoshi: If you do an unstable overclock - your cpu can hang thus resulting in nothing happening - making you think its video [18:24] shingoshi: or your fsb speeds are too low - making it difficult for your graphics card to communicate with your cpu. [18:24] I mean, it might or might not be your problem, so you do an experiment to test that hypothesis [18:24] My FSB is 1495 [18:25] 1495/8 [18:25] shingoshi: just revert to defaults - if you have the same problem - then come back here... till then we cant be sure its a software/driver issue can we.. [18:25] FSB-374 [18:25] shingoshi: read ^ [18:26] Action: shingoshi logs out to change clock speed. [18:26] change everything [18:26] back to defaults. [18:26] stock settings... [18:27] My clock is the only thing I've changed [18:27] you only changed the clock? then its bound to be unstable. [18:27] The voltage would have no effect here. [18:27] shingoshi: yes it would [18:28] And let me remind you. I said my system was stable before this. [18:28] shingoshi: define stable. - stress tests? [18:28] If I remember correctly this box is far from an stock 12.2? [18:28] exbio (n=exbios@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:28] If voltage would have anything to do with this, it's because it's too low. [18:28] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [18:29] Hey chopp, how's it going? [18:29] shingoshi: if your voltages arn't correct - you will not have a stable system. [18:29] I'm thinking the nvidia driver will make your card use more power and your psu may be a problem then [18:29] My voltage is 1.3V [18:29] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [18:29] shingoshi: just put everything back to stock and try again - it can't hurt can it?. [18:29] I have an onboard video chip. [18:29] firebird619: not so bad, how about yourself? [18:29] chopp: doing very well, thanks. [18:30] shingoshi: seriously just revert to stock settings and try again. [18:30] meh i give up [18:30] hi firebird619 ! [18:30] Hi shingoshi [18:30] one thing that'd be nice to have here in the future (the 21st century dammit) would be a way to save the BIOS settings to a file, so you can restore them later if need be [18:30] Amen!! [18:30] Urchlay: yeah that would be nice - i have profiles witch does me fine [18:30] profiles of what kind? [18:31] Not for your BIOS you don't [18:31] your BIOS supports multiple profiles, and can store a few of them, that you can pick from a menu or something? that'd be pretty cool. [18:31] Urchlay: yeah i have that [= [18:31] I have 4 profiles. [18:31] On what board? [18:32] shingoshi: evga 780 [18:32] This is an EVGA 730i, and it's very buggy. [18:33] My next board will have an Intel ich10r chipset. [18:33] nvidia chipset here - love it [= [18:33] No more of this nvidia crap. [18:34] Intel ich10r == 16GBs ram!! [18:34] shingoshi: wtf would you do with 16gbs of ram! I hardley touch on my 4gb [18:34] itchier chipset? [18:34] I compile everything in ram on /tmp==tmpfs [18:35] lol fair enough [18:35] simNIX (n=simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:35] I ran out of room once with 8GBs [18:35] Action: compl3x doesnt need to compile in ram [18:35] Action: compl3x has fast enough cpu [18:36] what were you compiling when that happened? [18:36] I forgot to remove old compile directories. [18:36] shingoshi, well, if you have too much ram, give me some :) [18:36] And then I tried compiling something big. I think it was gcc or glibc [18:37] he was compiling the firmware for the [18:37] Nebuchadnezza* [18:38] sloinn (n=adam@84.19.44.79) joined ##slackware. [18:38] hm, do tmpfs contents get cleared on umount? [18:39] compl3x I also mount all my non-persistent directories in /tmp. [18:39] lol [18:39] Urchlay yes [18:39] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [18:39] handy [18:39] Anything that doesn't need to be kept from boot to boot goes on tmpfs. [18:40] Administrator_ (n=Administ@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:40] Infected[b0y] (i=Infected@93.177.177.162) joined ##slackware. [18:40] It's saves a lot of time on disk access. [18:40] so other than /tmp and /var/tmp, what? [18:41] Infected[b0y] (i=Infected@93.177.177.162) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:41] I have some of my wine directories there, and Firefox caches as well. [18:41] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.87.18) joined ##slackware. [18:41] should be a way to just tell firefox to use a bigger RAM cache and no "disk" cache though [18:42] I'm looking into a tool I found to mount several directories to a single mount point. [18:42] would be more efficient than using a tmpfs file cache [18:42] Hmm what happens if you mount a device to a directory that already contains data? [18:42] I have to remember what it was. I think I already compiled it. [18:42] that data is inaccessible until you umount [18:43] Urchlay: ah cool . always wondered. [18:43] That's what this special tool does. It handles it for you. [18:43] exbio (n=exbios@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [18:43] can anybody help me?? keyboard input in kde session (pressing buttons) needs at least one second holding it to happen [18:43] shingoshi, union filesystems : unionfs or aufs [18:43] unionfs is one way to do that [18:43] but IIRC it requires a patched kernel [18:43] unionfs is maybe in recent kernels [18:43] and aufs is being discussed [18:44] I have unionfs-fuse here. That may have been it. [18:44] that's what slax uses [18:44] pretty please [18:44] fuse ain't exactly the fastest thing in the world... I mention it cause your purpose seems to be speed [18:45] what might be the problem [18:45] unionfs-fuse uses the existing fuse module in your kernel. [18:45] sloinn: did you turn on any accessibility features? [18:45] sloinn: log out of KDE, "mv ~/.kde ~/old.kde", log back in, see if that fixes it [18:45] shingoshi: but with context switches to a userspace helper daemon... [18:45] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:45] It's one of the build options in src2pkg. A form of safe sandbox. [18:45] wait, /me is not sure what slax uses actally [18:46] Slax uses AUFS [18:46] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [18:46] Action: shingoshi needs to go and fix this. I'll continue this conversation later. [18:47] shingoshi (n=shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "[BX] Beavis & Butthead use BitchX. Huh-huh huh-huh huh-huh he said "Bitch"." [18:47] ok, weird is that it happened without any reason during surfing internet and after shutdown it stayed the same [18:47] you know, the entire 8 or however many years I used bitchx, I never once let it use the stupid default quit messages... [18:48] sloinn: did my idea fix it? [18:48] confrey (n=dario@94.162.191.196) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:48] I don't know KDE (don't use it), but that's a pretty standard unix-ey way to fix a misconfigured app [18:50] Urchlay, bitchx was in the slack install packages but i don't have any run script or executable for it [18:50] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE6061.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [18:50] sloinn: eh, I wasn't suggesting you use bitchx, was commenting on shingoshi's quit message [18:50] here i'm writing 1 word 5 seconds [18:51] B3rk (n=Jhodas@cpc4-seac20-2-0-cust262.7-2.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:51] i take pleasure in guttin you boy [18:51] know, need some irc for terminal [18:51] simNIX (n=simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) joined ##slackware. [18:51] irssi [18:51] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:51] irssi or epic, yeah [18:51] Anyone use navit before? [18:51] bitchx was removed wasnt it - due to an exploit? [18:51] Action: Urchlay prefers irssi [18:52] Action: lf4 likes irssi best [18:52] ok [18:52] Hi Slackware :) [18:52] I just installed avidemux from SBo (and it's deps) and when I run avidemux from a terminal, I get command not found. whereis avidemux shows /usr/share/avidemux. Any ideas for fixing this so avidemux works? [18:52] irssi FTW!! [18:52] :p [18:52] sloinn (n=adam@84.19.44.79) left irc: "Leaving" [18:52] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.5.196) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:52] xchat [18:52] mIRC! [18:52] superGear: gtfo [18:52] bedtime [18:52] Night Camarade_Tux [18:52] good night channel :) [18:52] Camarade_Tux: ditto [18:53] night Camarade_Tux [18:53] night all [= [18:53] night compl3x [18:53] kiss kiss kiss :p [18:53] Good evening Camarade_Tux [18:53] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "leaving" [18:53] let's echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep ;p [18:53] firebird619: look in /var/adm/package/avidemux* and see what (if anything) that package installed into /usr/bin [18:54] echo "one million cups" > /proc/acpi/coffee [18:54] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) joined ##slackware. [18:54] er, /var/adm/packages [18:55] (yes, I know /var/adm is "deprecated" but my finger muscles know how to type it without my brain's involvement...) [18:55] lol [18:55] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-110-118.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:55] sloinn (n=adam@84.19.44.79) joined ##slackware. [18:55] Urchlay, how simple :) [18:55] pinky is still over the "a" from when I typed it in "var", so it's easy to start the "adm"... [18:55] thank very much [18:56] sloinn: that fixed it, really? [18:56] your homework is to find out how it got broken in the first place :) [18:56] I was thinking the problem is in booting the X sessions and this stuff [18:57] firebird619: /usr/bin/avidemux2_gtk and /usr/bin/avidemux2_cli ? [18:57] first off, it was printing everything twice, like wwhhaattaa hheell [18:57] chopp: yes, they exist. [18:57] meep [18:57] meep meep [18:58] nix_chix0r: ya get your hair done? [18:58] road runner :) [18:58] 20bucks for a fucking headlight is retarded especially when they replaced it a month ago and had no proof they did so i had to pay again [18:58] did anyone besides me always want to see the Coyote win? [18:58] firebird619, yeah its cool [18:58] Hi room. I'm thinking of installing slackware alongside Xubuntu. I tried Gentoo but realised it was too big a jump. Is slack a smaller step up? [18:58] chopp: Urchlay: Ugh that works, I didn't think to try avidemux2_gtk or _cli. Thanks guys. [18:59] Urchlay, and do you have a hint for me, cause the logs were clear [18:59] firebird619: my other solution would have been "type avi into a terminal, then hit tab twice" :) [18:59] B3rk: What, exactly, does "too big a jump" mean? [18:59] sloinn: nope... I have no idea how it got broken (if I did, I wouldn't keep it a secret)... I really don't use KDE, so I don't know :) [18:59] firebird619: you're welcome [19:00] sloinn: just saying, if you examine the new ~/.kde vs. the ~/old.kde, you might be able to figure it out [19:00] Urchlay, and guess what, everything is much faster now, rendering and all this X stuf... [19:00] Urchlay: yeah, I didn't think of tab completion to find it either, the solution always seems to be something simple. :) [19:00] B3rk: what is the move yours worried about? [19:00] MrHales: Xubuntu is nice and easy, almost windowsish. Gentoo is specifically targeted at experts. [19:01] MrHales: I'm looking for something in the middle, since im not really that strong with linux yet [19:01] You would probably say that Slackware is a big step. Slackware is easy as long as you don't mind doing things for yourself. [19:01] Urchlay: All that and avidemux doesn't open ogg theora files. :P I hadn't checked that, I figured it would. :P [19:01] error_de1eloper_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:01] happycycling (n=happycyc@97-117-118-145.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [19:02] I forwarded my bit torrent ports 6881-6889 from my router to my computer. My firewall is now reporting port scans from outside IP addresses. Should I use different ports? [19:02] firebird619: d'oh! [19:02] test34_ (n=alexb@user-142g4f9.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [19:02] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:02] Urchlay: You would think it would open a theora file. :P [19:03] Action: firebird619 googles for something else that will work. [19:03] firebird619: if your goal is just to remove black borders from a movie file, mencoder should be able to do it (use "mplayer -vf cropdetect" to find the parameters to use for mencoder's "-vf crop" option) [19:03] I dont mind doing things myself :-) I'm trying to get a feel for the differences between distros. We use Fedora at University, I've tried DSL, Ubuntu and Xubuntu, [19:03] happycycling: lol you might get that anywere. [19:03] Urchlay: yeah, that's all I want to do so I'll give that a try, thank you. [19:03] theora... is what, a codec or a container? (same thing as a typical .mkv file?) [19:03] I broke my laptop with gentoo and had to get my friend to rebuild my MBR for me [19:04] Urchlay: again, cli tools do the best job. [19:04] is there any exploit then for the ports I'm forwarding or am I safe? [19:04] test34_ (n=alexb@user-142g4f9.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Client Quit [19:04] Slackware is fun and educational. As long as you don't mind the effort you'll expend configuring things the way you want, you'll find the process very rewarding. [19:04] Urchlay: It's Ogg theora, ogg being the container, theora the codec. [19:04] test34_ (n=alexb@user-142g4f9.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [19:04] its more whats behind the ports not the actual port number themselves. [19:04] With Slackware you *will* learn more about Linux. [19:04] firebird619: eh, well, in this case, I recommended a CLI tool because I don't know a GUI one to do the job :) [19:04] Urchlay: me either, but nothing wrong with cli. [19:04] PuroOsso (n=PuroOsso@187.21.16.246) joined ##slackware. [19:05] Sounds like what I'm looking for MrHales. Would I be right in assuming you get a bit more 'out the box' than you do with Gentoo? [19:05] so the BT client is secure then? That's what's doing the listening I guess [19:05] I'd try kino but that didn't build. [19:05] happycycling: what client is it and version? [19:05] Slackware comes with just about everything the average user would want... sometimes a dozen of those things... [19:05] B3rk: if you choose "full install" in the Slackware installer, you get plenty of good stuff "out of the box" [19:05] uTorrent 1.8.2 [19:06] there is a Utorrent for linux? [19:06] Specialized tools you'll need to locate, but the rest you'll have.... of course, "full install" uses up a lot of space... very few people will need *that* many email programs, for instance [19:06] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:06] lf4: if you have a better client in mind I'd use that [19:06] Urchlay: Whoa, that mplayer -vf cropdetect is a handy little tool. [19:06] happycycling: uTorrent is a windows program, we here in #slackware aren't likely to know much about it... [19:06] oh, um what about the standard BT client? [19:06] they're roughly the same thing [19:06] (although I have at least run it in wine and seen that yes, it does work that way) [19:07] qbittorrent ftw!! [19:07] rtorrent for cli [19:07] the modern version of the standard BT client is also windows-only though (it's a rebadged utorrent) [19:07] Thank you Urchlay and MrHales. Downloading CD2 now :-) [19:07] Urchlay: I use utorrent when in windows other wise ktorrent in linux [19:07] deluge is nice [19:07] chopp: agreed. very nice. [19:07] I used to use that till I found qbittorrent [19:08] happycycling: if you would like I could test to see if you are secure enough. mostlikely you are. [19:08] sure [19:09] rtorrent and transmission are good... use the blocklists in trans or use moblock with rtorrent [19:09] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:09] the only file I seed is the slackware itself [19:09] that's really about it [19:10] happycycling: what do you mean? [19:10] use rtorrent in screen and -d it [19:10] Action: Shingoshi got X back by using his old xorg.conf file. [19:10] I'd rather have speed than bells and whistles. [19:10] oh, I mean my help seed the slackware torrent files to people downloading the distro [19:11] Shingoshi, wait til you get to the new Xorg it doesnt even use and xorg.conf file [19:11] ehhh. can't use xorg.conf, or doesn't by default? [19:11] doesnt [19:11] Doesn't, but you can use one if necessary. [19:11] its all auto [19:11] correct for overrides [19:12] and has hotplugging too [19:12] Fedora had that when I used it, but I could still make a xorg.conf and it'd see and use it. [19:12] have you guys had problems with gapless audio files? I get digital pops and clicks between tracks when I use amorak [19:12] happycycling: I see and your secure. [19:12] i use mplayer in cli [19:12] awesome, thanks [19:13] PuroOsso (n=PuroOsso@187.21.16.246) left irc: "esqueci ligado" [19:13] VampirePenguin: By then, maybe nvidia will have working drivers for my board. [19:13] do you own an iPod? I haven't quite figured out how to sync it [19:13] I don't trust stuff that's as complex as xorg if it doesn't have some way to manually tell it "you autodetected my stuff wrong, fool!" [19:14] VampirePenguin: Either that, or I will have purchased a better board by then. [19:14] happycycling, gen 5 are encrypted [19:14] cant hack them [19:14] Action: lf4 owns an iTouch [19:14] <5 are open to linux [19:15] as it does not autodetect , it guesses it. Tell it it's wrong by vim /etx/X11/xorg.conf :p [19:15] Shingoshi, my board is intel in my lappie [19:15] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Success [19:15] damn, I'm still bound to windows I guess [19:15] I have a gen 6 [19:16] happycycling: just use a VM of windows in linux and ;) its fixed [19:16] samsung ypp2, iriver, cowon all workin in linux [19:16] sell it and get a new one [19:16] vbox-ose doesnt support usb [19:16] which VM clients do you recommend? [19:17] well vbox has a puel vers [19:17] that one has usb support [19:17] i dont know about qemu, or xen [19:17] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:17] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:17] and vmware player should be able to install [19:17] buut you wont have many features in it [19:17] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:17] i use vbox [19:17] i do too [19:18] i had to reinstall my images bc they would not transfer large rev changes [19:19] with oracle buying them in the next few yrs they might be a good competitor for vmware... but vmware hands down is the gold standard of vms [19:19] How do you guys manage your audio in linux then? Mixing and DJing is fairly important to me [19:19] icecast streams [19:19] songbird [19:19] Bugz___ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-87-42.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:20] i know its not linux but freenas streams with upnp [19:20] Audacity? Freecycle? [19:20] 10 mins to set up whole server [19:20] mpd>all [19:21] Bugz___ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-87-42.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:22] sidmario (n=sidmario@189.111.72.144) left irc: Connection timed out [19:22] test34_ (n=alexb@user-142g4f9.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:22] so on your own PC you run icecast and control it from there? or from some other external form of hardware? [19:22] test34_ (n=alexb@user-142g4f9.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [19:22] happycycling, i havent used icecast bc i dont want to set up mysql [19:22] and i havent tried the upnp [19:22] but they are for streaming [19:23] the later is web interface controlled [19:23] firebird619, http://i43.tinypic.com/wklg10.jpg theres the new glasses [19:23] http://www.campware.org/en/camp/campcaster_news/ [19:24] there is a good link too [19:24] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-87-42.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:24] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-87-42.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:24] it competes with SAM/WinAmp [19:24] but is gpl [19:24] nix_chix0r: Wow, very nice. [19:25] gyroscope (n=gyroscop@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [19:25] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.113.116.159) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:25] well I don't need to setup a server per say. I just need something that can manage my library of music in a competent way without tons of hassle [19:26] happycycling, most ppl like amarok [19:26] but gets slow with a lot of entries.... i knwo ppl that have 20k songs [19:26] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-87-42.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:26] thats why i use mplayer in cli... go to the directory i want and mplayer *.mp3 [19:26] yea, I have about 10k [19:27] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@75.42.87.42) joined ##slackware. [19:27] vlc does the job very well [19:27] I use xmms. [19:27] audacious is out there [19:27] happycycling, everyones needs are different [19:27] VampirePenguin: I use amarok with 50k tracks. [19:27] oh do ya [19:27] cool thumbs [19:27] :) [19:27] VampirePenguin: yes, it runs well. [19:27] corte (n=corte@cpe-024-074-144-179.carolina.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:27] thumbs: amarok 1 or 2? [19:28] firebird619: the one that comes with KDE 3.5.11 [19:28] I have yet to find a music player on linux that I like :( [19:28] thumbs: Ah, 1 then. :) [19:28] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [19:28] some ppl like moc [19:28] vers 1 should be kde 3.5.x [19:28] what about gaming? Does steam/HL2 content run well on wine or cedega. I used wine ten years ago and it was a nightmare getting it to do anything with a screen full of errors [19:28] firebird619, you gota see this one http://i43.tinypic.com/xekk89.jpg he was staring out the window [19:29] thrice`: same here, I have yet to find that perfect one that I really like and use, so I just switch now and then, and now I'm using xmms. Songbird is also nice. [19:29] happycycling, dual boot if you game.... 3d acceleration is not up there yet [19:29] even if you run a vm [19:29] nix_chix0r: Wow, that is so cute. Something must have caught his eye. [19:30] there are also tons of games in linux and quite a few commercial ones taht have been ported over [19:30] kitty on the baby window:) [19:30] bay* [19:30] Ah yeah, that'll get his attention. [19:31] so even with cedega games run slow? [19:31] thumbs, well you have the new record.... [19:31] VampirePenguin: been collecting tracks since 1994 [19:31] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.188.15.113) joined ##slackware. [19:31] thumbs, are they ogg/mp3 or? [19:31] VampirePenguin: most of those are remixed, and stuff I bought from the net. [19:31] i have a mix [19:31] VampirePenguin: a mix of both, actually. [19:32] i have flac too [19:32] VampirePenguin: I now rip all my cd / samples to flac [19:32] VampirePenguin: I use it to play around with mixing. [19:33] thumbs: same here, flac for any cd I get. I notice the difference too. [19:33] flac is large files i noticed but i like flac or ogg since both are gnu [19:33] flac sounds great [19:33] VampirePenguin: large? I have 2 TB at home. Space is not an issue. [19:33] Cann0n (n=jack@c-66-176-76-236.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:33] lol [19:33] I'll take the better quality any day. [19:33] 300+ mb's some times for one albume. :) [19:33] s/albume/album [19:33] that's fin. [19:33] well i have 80gb lappie and 320gb backup [19:34] 640 GB hdd here. Plenty of space. :) [19:34] I only do lossless rips. The size of drives now is worth it [19:34] flac is lossless [19:34] yea I know [19:34] space is cheap these days, why not. :P [19:35] plus you only need to rip it once [19:35] flac is not just lossless; flack is freaking amazing! [19:35] ya it is cheap [19:35] tecky: agreed. [19:35] And thankfully my mp3 player supports ogg and flac too. :) [19:35] would it make a difference if i reripped my collection into flac from ogg/mp3 [19:35] you can't do that [19:35] you'd need the original source [19:36] mp3s are already compressed and the extra data is stripped out [19:36] you'll just inflate the file size is all [19:36] VampirePenguin: If you re-ripped the original source (i.e. the cd) then yes, but re-ripped your collection, no, in some cases it'd make it worse. [19:36] ok [19:36] do you dj thumbs [19:37] There's a good dj name "DJ Thumbs" :D [19:38] likevinyl_ (n=likeviny@190.188.15.113) joined ##slackware. [19:38] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:38] what I've noticed talking to other DJs is we complain about how the bass sounds like shit. Even with 320s you have to comensate the bass [19:38] it doesn't sound as warm [19:39] _juan (n=juan@190.75.74.62) joined ##slackware. [19:39] happycycling: yeah. [19:40] happycycling: you can tell when I mix from a crappy mp3 :) [19:40] Urchlay, weird, the new .kde is practically the same...it must have been some widget or settings, there is just temporary cache...but how can this happen and stay over restart...unbelievable [19:40] Jhodas (n=Jhodas@cpc4-seac20-2-0-cust262.7-2.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [19:40] B3rk (n=Jhodas@cpc4-seac20-2-0-cust262.7-2.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:40] VampirePenguin: I dabble at it, nothing professional. [19:40] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:41] thumbs, i can give you a link for an internet stream that is looking for djs with a good collection, etc [19:41] firebird619: and that mp3 player is?!? [19:41] thumbs, hobby streams [19:41] VampirePenguin: thanks, but I would lack time to contribute / benefit from it [19:41] sloinn (n=adam@84.19.44.79) left irc: "Leaving" [19:41] s0m3b0dy (n=enigma@222.172.214.214) joined ##slackware. [19:42] s0m3b0dy (n=enigma@222.172.214.214) left ##slackware. [19:42] thumbs, np.... time is an issue for a lot of ppl [19:42] tecky: SanDisk Sansa Clip (which supports ogg and flac with their firmware). I also have a Sansa c240 v1 which supports rockbox which supports ogg and flac. [19:42] <<<<<< is not pd a commission in any sense for mentioning this stream [19:43] ya foss support for mp3 players is out there [19:43] just a little googling [19:43] i had to change a text file with mtp and it made my mp3 ums [19:43] <_juan> hi, i've downloaded all the -current files using wget, i changed the file extensions from txz to tgz and created an iso file, when i ran it, in order to install slackware current, it didn't install anything, the setup program just went through all the files very quickly and did nothing [19:44] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:44] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-239-252.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:44] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:44] _juan: You can't just change the file extension like that from txz to tgz. [19:44] other than kde4 that is a hell of a lot of work for an incremental update [19:45] <_juan> i want kde4 [19:45] Hey Pig_Pen, how's it going? [19:45] groovy, just got back from sunaday supper at mamma's house [19:45] _juan: er, you can't "change" file formats [19:45] _juan: If you want KDE4, you need to install all of current. Current now uses txz (a new compression method using lzma) [19:46] <_juan> how do i get around to doing that? please tell me what to read :D [19:46] _juan: Why not just use the txz's and install current? [19:46] _juan: Why do you need to convert them? [19:46] if you use an installer from -current, there is no need to convert them [19:47] <_juan> what is the name of an installer from current? [19:47] er, "setup" is what the installer's called, in slackware... [19:48] ftp://ftp.slackware.no/pub/linux/ISO-images/slackware/Current-ISO-build/ has ISO's of -current which might work well [19:48] Couldn't he just follow the UPGRADE.TXT and it'll work. You upgrade pkgtools, etc. first which now support txz? [19:49] you will need to update tar, pkgtools, and install xz first [19:50] Lumisore (n=XSE@61.247.22.127) left irc: [19:51] <_juan> i han no idea what txz was [19:51] <_juan> had* [19:52] got yourself in to quite a pickle trying to do it helterskelter there didnt ya? [19:52] _juan: If you are going to upgrade to current, even with 12.2, you should read the changelog's, etc. to see what's going on. You shouldn't just upgrade blindly. [19:54] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.188.15.113) left irc: Success [19:54] happycycling (n=happycyc@97-117-118-145.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: " HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it" [19:54] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [19:55] uva (i=bno@118-168-232-251.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:56] Pig_Pen: sunday supper at mamma's eh? Did she make a big delicious meal? 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[20:17] Bugz___ (n=Bugz_@75.42.57.41) joined ##slackware. [20:18] i got kfc grilled chicken on the way home from the car place:p [20:18] that stuff is good [20:19] nix_chix0r: their grilled chicken is excellent. [20:19] to bad it's hard to get the grilled chicken really [20:20] dchmelik (n=d@66.243.232.150) joined ##slackware. [20:20] they probally sell out too fast in big city areas luckily im in the boonies [20:20] chopp (i=1000@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [20:20] well from what I heard they are still doing rainchecks for it in big city areas [20:20] yeah i saw the ad [20:21] I tried it because I found that coupon online for a free meal. [20:21] _juan (n=juan@190.75.74.62) left irc: "Leaving" [20:21] you can blame oprah. she was giving out free chicken coupons in her magazine [20:21] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:21] umm more like online not just on her magazine [20:21] yeah, they were online. [20:21] KFC didn't expect teh overwhelming response though [20:22] they didnt expect people to like that new stuff over their greasy chicken:P [20:22] it's fucking amazing [20:22] i buy extra and shred it up to make chicken salad [20:23] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-8-224-127.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [20:24] The, iirc CEO, of KFC was on oprah either this past week or the week before and said that as of then, whenever he was on, they had given over 4 million meals. [20:24] firebird619 : i wouldn't call it grilled. tasted like it was baked, then it was hot pressed to make it look like grilled [20:24] either way, it's really good. [20:24] yeah [20:24] russo (n=russo@about/goats/goatjockey/russo) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:25] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:25] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:28] lw0x15_ (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:31] PuroOsso (n=PuroOsso@189.31.29.67) joined ##slackware. [20:32] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@75.42.87.42) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:34] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-87-42.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:34] unixfool (i=4421c1cc@about/slackware/wigglit) joined ##slackware. [20:34] whattup [20:34] every one go on a cig break all at once? [20:35] chopp (i=1000@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [20:35] Hi unixfool [20:35] nope busying compiling freebsd since copying a live systerm over to ZFS breaks things :) [20:36] nix_chix0r: I know I didn't, I don't smoke. :P [20:36] been awhile since i been here [20:36] IAMWN (n=kvirc@24-107-62-139.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:36] welcome to the party [20:36] unixfool: hello! [20:36] nix_chix0r : like that old rule of 'in a room of X people, every X minutes there will be silence'? [20:36] sup thumbs, firebird619, and nix_chix0r [20:36] unixfool: how is life treating you? [20:37] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [20:37] ananke, well if they aren't smoking they're doing something else:P [20:37] PuroOsso (n=PuroOsso@189.31.29.67) left irc: "esqueci ligado" [20:37] very hectic (work). there was a time when i was active here, but bills and work come first :) [20:37] unixfool: you must be a busy man. We don't see you around here much anymore. :P [20:37] unixfool: you still have ops? [20:37] yeah [20:38] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:38] may be hard for me to access ops on this new computer...i don [20:38] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [20:38] i dont have things set up like my desktop [20:38] freakin mini 9 keyboard sucks ass, too [20:38] luckily it's nice enough on the porch that hang out there [20:38] unixfool : that it does [20:39] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:39] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-93-182.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:39] I hate those keyboards. [20:39] PuroOsso (n=PuroOsso@189-31-29-67.bsace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:40] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@75.42.93.182) joined ##slackware. [20:40] unixfool : it takes me some time to use mini9, after typing all day on a normal keyboard or laptop. but they're nice and small, great for a quick trip to a data center, meeting, etc [20:40] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:40] cetterra (n=cadu@200.220.195.122) joined ##slackware. [20:40] yeah, i take mine to meetings all the time. little things like the ' key kills me, though...oh yeah, the pipe key too [20:41] i heard that you can swap out the US keyboard for the INTL one and its mapped out better [20:41] yeah, finger bending exercise [20:42] hmm, that would be worth trying, although i don't know if i could remember the key locations [20:42] I still lug my 15" laptop around. [20:42] Bugz___ (n=Bugz_@75.42.57.41) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:43] i would've gotten the HP mini if it was as quiet as the dell...i also wanted ssd [20:43] nice thing about them is that they have ethernet ports. very useful for testing network cables/connectivity, and you get a terminal while you're at it [20:43] I like dell mini9 don't own one myself but they run bsd's great from what I have read [20:43] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-236-81.dsl.scarlet.be) joined ##slackware. [20:44] Hi, any Slackware users running Firefox 3.5beta here? [20:44] im still running a latitude d505 :-) [20:44] i got windows xp and opensuse 11.1 on mine. we have a few more in the office for quick trips, other folks installed ubuntu [for netbooks], windows 7, etc [20:44] i'd love to try openbsd [20:44] purvesh (n=purvesh@203.194.105.100) left irc: "Leaving" [20:45] yeah, i have gOS on this one [20:45] I met a couple of japanese guys who were practically religious about openbsd [20:46] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-236-81.dsl.scarlet.be) left irc: Client Quit [20:47] 0.o [20:47] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-236-81.dsl.scarlet.be) joined ##slackware. [20:50] that sounds a bit scarey [20:50] Anyone know off the top of their head if comcast would block outgoing SMTP normally? [20:50] although I know a japanese guy who was kinda religious about tekken [20:50] lf4: yes if it's coming out of the default smtp port [20:51] humm.. so I cant use mail to send a message from my server at home to my blackberry. :( [20:51] hmmm nix_chix0r ya i think they all did :X [20:51] where's Abby? [20:51] all the cool peeps left [20:52] change the port? [20:52] gee thanks nix_chix0r ;) [20:52] nix_chix0r: thanks? [20:52] np;) [20:52] nix_chix0r: not yet [20:52] straterra: your definately not cool [20:52] you're :P [20:52] ha [20:52] below-me [20:52] haha [20:52] i meant the smokers that go outside [20:53] smoking is bad mkay? [20:53] Action: Jhodas lights up [20:53] well i dont know either of you that well, but straterra is already cooler than you by default if you have to point it out :P [20:53] i had to turn the tv up so i dont hear the baby whinning is that bad or what. he's pouting cause he fell asleep on me and doesn't want to sleep in his crib [20:53] its not bad [20:54] you cant run to the kid every time it makes a noise [20:54] how can you be cooler by default? [20:54] not going hold him 24/7 [20:54] good [20:54] too many parents do [20:54] it's bed time and he needs to sleep and not in my bed either [20:55] yyup [20:55] i will put my foot down on that [20:55] uhmm, how old is your kid? [20:55] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:55] not very old [20:55] if you start picking that baby up and fussing about every little pout and cry then that kid will figure that out pretty quick and use it to get his way every chance he gets by the time those terrible twos come around [20:55] 2months but he was dead asleep on me and i see no reason to hold him till he wakes up after 7hrs [20:56] you're lucky if your infant at 2 months of age can sleep 7 hours straight [20:56] I was thinking that [20:56] you're doing well dude [20:56] he sleeps 7-9 hours [20:56] very strange indeed [20:56] that's not very common [20:57] Kids at that age can sleep up to 12 hours or more [20:57] our daughter would sleep through her feedings most of th etime [20:57] i remember the first time he slept for 9 hours i had to keep checking on him to see if he was still breathing. eventually i just woke him up because it wasn't something he did normally [20:58] Hey Dominian, how's it going? [20:58] going ok.. you? [20:58] however, you may want to give him some slack. he's only 2 months old. requiring him to fall asleep in his crib that young is a challange [20:58] doing great, thanks. :) [20:58] nix_chix0r : he didn't have jaundice, did he? [20:59] ananke, yeah i wont let him cry for 20minutes i usually check on him and if he's still being a little pooper i throw him in the swing and then he smilesa way.nah no jaundice [20:59] http://i43.tinypic.com/xekk89.jpg ananke ** he's adorable [21:00] hah [21:00] I miss the "bug eyes" of little babies [21:00] each little kid is different really how they sleep I knew I would just sleep and when I woke up I would play but my brother he would sleep and cry since he did not want to stay in his crib [21:00] Everything so new. [21:00] cute kid. i mention jaundice, because that often results in lethargy and excessive sleeping. although if he had jaundice that late, you'd have bigger problems [21:01] nix_chix0r, he is cute :-) [21:01] well done dude [21:01] he was holding his head up at day one. now he bobs that thing and whips his head around and wants to crawl so bad i have a feeling i got a smart determined lil guy on my hands [21:01] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:01] good luck :-) [21:01] like the scientists say, eyes big in proportion to the entire head and short snouts result in those nurture responses :) [21:02] i'll have to hide the computers so he doesn't try to hack the gibson too early and get himself thrown in the baby jail:)) [21:02] I'm glad i don't have kids yet, I'd be a bit http://xkcd.com/441/ [21:02] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [21:03] it's funny cause he will piss on the hubby when he changes him but not me. and recently when its my time to change the diaper i dont get the poopy ones:)) [21:03] nix_chix0r : just wait until he gets to smile for longer than a couple of seconds and does it when he sees you. [21:04] i love his smiling :D yeah he is still in the beta process [21:04] beta baby. lol [21:04] at what month are they at rc status? :P [21:04] joeDeuce (n=joeDeuce@32.130.128.233) left ##slackware. [21:04] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:04] firebird619 : depends on the function :) [21:04] for him i'd say 3-4months [21:04] lol [21:05] 2 months, so you just had to deal with vaccines. ouch [21:05] gah nothing going on i'm watching a lifetime movie how pathetic [21:06] outbreak is on amc right now [21:06] is that the one with the monkeys? [21:06] watch Survivor instead [21:06] Jhodas: yea [21:07] season finale for Survivor [21:07] I quite enjoyed that kitche [21:07] bah kitche it's almost over [21:07] i got dane cook recording on the dvr so that'll be the nightime show before i pass out [21:08] koolniczka (n=nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) left irc: "Leaving." [21:08] what time is it there nix_chix0r? [21:08] 8pm [21:08] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.71.214) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:08] javyn (n=avery@adsl-70-242-7-115.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [21:08] hey [21:09] sensible. 2am here :( [21:09] hey javyn [21:09] hey Jhodas [21:09] is this a channel for newbs [21:09] nix_chix0r: His new one: Isolated Incident is on tonight at 9. [21:09] firebird619, yeah thats the one i got set for recording [21:10] nix_chix0r: nice. Only an hour away. :P [21:10] I'm a newb and havent been kicked yet :-) [21:10] i'm new to linux in general, and installed slackware in a virtualbox last night [21:10] javyn: Welcome to Slackware, enjoy your stay. :) [21:10] hehe [21:10] firebird619, next year marks year 11 of linux use [21:10] it was pretty fun, i got to set things up myself instead of just hitting an install button [21:11] I dont even have slackware, still downloading it. running xubuntu atm [21:11] that's why i kick myself for forgetting how to untar a .bz2 [21:11] haha [21:11] Jhodas: Ubuntu here [21:11] hehe [21:11] nice javyn [21:11] an Oracle is on a buying spree [21:11] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:11] nix_chix0r: I'm not sure how long I've been on linux, I started with RH 7.3 in high school. [21:11] nix_chix0r : it's like a trick statement, since you don't untar .bz2 :) [21:11] hohoho [21:11] I wanted to put Xubuntu on my laptop, couldn't figure out how to put a volume control on the xfce4 dekstop [21:12] likevinyl_ (n=likeviny@190.188.15.113) left irc: Client Quit [21:12] ananke, for some reason debian, mandriva, and a few other distros i put on my computer to test say they dont have the c compiler [21:12] I've got it [21:12] javyn : ouch. if that's what made you switch a distro, you may need to get ready for something else :) [21:12] javyn, its not that hard, I think it's somewhere in the settings manager [21:12] nix_chix0r: because by default they don't well I don't know about debian but the otehrs you tried probably don't [21:12] nix_chix0r : that's very common. most distros don't install compilers by default [21:12] nix_chix0r: those are the distroes who think they know what is good for you :P [21:13] hey macavity, how's it going? [21:13] well i dont want to build it from the ground up [21:13] ananke: so far everything i have runs ubuntu now, and works well. but i'm a linux newb and figure, i'll try to learn on slackware [21:13] firebird619: i dont know how "it" is doing.. im doing fine though :P [21:13] macavity, even ubuntu gives you gcc?! [21:13] Jhodas: yes and no [21:13] macavity: haha [21:13] Jhodas: not per default if i am informed correctly [21:13] i figure if i can be proficient with slack, i can do well with any distro i end up choosing, right? [21:13] ah k [21:14] nix_chix0r : considering that all of those distros do have repositories larger than slackware, it's assumed that most software you need will be in said repositories. and if you want to compile software yourself, you'll be able to install compilers [21:14] javyn : indeed, slackware will provide you with great amount of knowledge that will apply in other distros [21:14] javyn: be prepared to read *alot* and learn. [21:14] javyn: if you become proficient in slackware, all other distroes will seem like an endless line of annoyances (when they try to think for you, or "help" you behind your back) [21:14] macavity, I cant remember what came with and what i installed on here [21:15] is there not a way install it with out building it from scratch ananke [21:15] has anyone else tried the LFS project? [21:15] macavity: that's fine too, if slackware is the best, then good thing i'm learning it first [21:15] win-win heh [21:15] nix_chix0r : install what? i'm not sure i follow [21:15] how to get the gcc [21:15] Jhodas: i has number 1221 on the LFS counter :P [21:15] nix_chix0r, you install the complier like any other software in those other distros, usually from a package manager [21:16] firebird619: can you recommend a good book for me? [21:16] javyn : there is no 'best' distribution. each has its pros and cons [21:16] hehe nice one macavity [21:16] javyn: www.slackbook.org for one. [21:16] tank-man, it says it's thereinstalled in the package manager:P [21:16] I had LFS for a bit but stopped using it since I find linux to be a thrown together mess sometimes [21:16] javyn : and each of those pros and cons depend on the situation or audience [21:16] Action: kitche goes and runs [21:16] javyn: slackware is only the best if you think it is.. but it is for sure the most "manual labour" distro in town [21:16] javyn: ... not counting LFS :P [21:16] tank-man, but when i try to manually install anything there is no c compiler as the error i get [21:16] macavity, I got stuck on it. kept throwing errors at me, probably something to do with wrong versions, but after screwing my partition table up twice I gave up [21:16] LFS isn't a distro anyways it's a learning tools [21:17] nix_chix0r : did you install gcc on that/those distros? [21:17] LFS is to a distro as a cookbook is to a meal [21:17] kitche: technically its a book :P [21:17] macavity: true :) [21:17] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:17] macavity, do you reckon slack is more work than gentoo [21:17] ? [21:17] wait gentoo is work? [21:18] Jhodas: work for you or your CPU? [21:18] compared to slackware, hell yea [21:18] kitche: contiuously :p [21:18] slackware is more work than gentoo in the long run. the only time you spend less time on slackware is during the install [21:18] ananke, i didnt no it just installed through and my package manager on said distros shows it is installed yes i can't install anything manually for some bizarre reason [21:18] Jhodas: just pick "full install" in gentoo, and it will be done compiling about the same time as the next slackware release hits the mirrirs :P [21:18] lol [21:18] anyhows.. afk, time for Ben and Jerry's [21:18] nix_chix0r : that just sounds strange. [21:19] I find gentoo to be less work myself mainly [21:19] gentoo broke my laptop [21:19] ok thats a lie. I broke my laptop with gentoo [21:19] well more on upgrades but overall less work [21:19] prolly pebkac issue there [21:19] there ya go [21:19] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [21:19] ananke, i wanted to install opera and i cant:( [21:19] nix_chix0r : what distro? [21:20] debian [21:20] heh [21:20] apt-get -i opera ? [21:20] my slackware box is dead...the drive took a dump, and i've been having multisystem issues. its been down for months [21:20] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:20] oh for christ sake is that why? i'm supposed to use apt-get [21:20] opera isnt 'free' so unless you added a repo, its probably not there by default [21:20] nix_chix0r: Did you have build-essential installed? [21:20] nix_chix0r : what were you using? :) [21:20] slackpkg? :P [21:21] i'm retarded [21:21] lol [21:21] not even going to answer that [21:21] haha [21:21] i've tried to emerge things on slack before [21:21] tank-man: no it isn't, but opera has debian/ubuntu repo's [21:22] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:22] i do something similar in windows shells all the time: ls [21:23] unixfool: I do ls in windows as well ;) [21:23] ^^ [21:23] wow...just noticed the user count...higher than normal [21:23] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:23] Hey lf4, how are you? [21:23] hey firebird619 :) i'm doing well got rid of that cold quickly [21:23] how are you doing? [21:23] unixfool: that's about average now. [21:23] lf4: doing great, thanks. Glad you got rid of that cold. [21:23] really [21:24] yes [21:24] i need to try to start spending more time here [21:24] nix_chix0r: better have hubby rub your head, maybe some of the forgotten knowledge will return. :P [21:24] I'm confusing some comcast agent right now asking about when they implement port 25 blocking. [21:24] I've tried 'dir' in lilol [21:24] oops [21:24] 2 much coffee [21:24] hahaha [21:25] lf4: haha [21:25] lf4, lol [21:25] Haha she got the answer :) thats cool [21:25] hey, i just read that BitchX was EOL'd in slackware [21:25] BitchX is EOL'd upstream [21:26] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:26] Is anyone here using GeiL BlackDragon dimms. I have the 8GB Kit. [21:26] oh, so it wasn't pat? [21:26] BitchX seems to have AEOL'd themselves [21:26] -A [21:26] there is supposely Bitchx 2 but have not seen it around at all [21:26] unixfool : btw, we have a black man for a president, and the world didn't end in 2000. [21:26] LOL [21:26] lol [21:27] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:27] well, i havent seen any improvements yet, either [21:27] so much for that [21:27] unixfool: You see what you choose not to. [21:28] Shingoshi: you dont know me that well to say that [21:28] im about as openminded as anyone here [21:28] Thanks for the explanation! [21:28] all i [21:28] hmm ok seems like BitchX2 is merging back to EPIC [21:28] you're welcome [21:29] awhile back, you'd have gotten more explanation than that [21:29] Action: Shingoshi looks for EPIC and BitchX2. [21:29] haha [21:29] :) [21:29] I had bitchx on fluxbox, embedded on my desktop [21:30] unixfool: Well, some of these here aren't that openminded. Hang around long enough, and you'll see. [21:30] Action: Jhodas gets popcorn [21:30] Shingoshi: lol...i been here since 2000 [21:30] this place is much better now than it was back then [21:31] Action: ananke wants to beta test bx2 [21:31] seems liek Bitchx.org is the site not bitchx.com [21:32] more than likely [21:33] unixfool: there's a few that "awhile back" would not still be here. :P [21:33] bitchx.com seems like it was bought by someone to use the name to get business according to bitchx.org [21:33] PLEASE NOTE THAT BITCHX.COM IS NOW OWNED BY A SNEAKY LITTLE CONSULTANT TYPE WHO PURCHASED THE DOMAIN AND IS USING THE NAME AND THE APPEARANCE OF A LEGITIMATE PAGE TO GARNER BUSINESS, AND AS SUCH IS NOT AN OFFICIAL DISTRIBUTION SITE. [21:33] ow [21:33] no caps pls [21:33] dammit [21:33] my eyes! [21:33] and the sad thing is that 'bitchx2' in google points you to bitchx.com [21:33] but thanks for the heads up [21:33] I simply copied how it was posted on the page and pasted it here. [21:34] yeah, but in all caps [21:34] ought to register something like bith.cx just to be confusing [21:34] squatters suck [21:34] do people still use bitchx [21:34] yea that was a copy and paste. [21:34] Look at the page yourself. http://www.bitchx.org/ [21:34] javyn : yes [21:34] i do when i have to [21:34] apparently Shingoshi uses it, judging from his quit message earlier [21:34] Well good evening unixfool. [21:34] always though everyone moved over to irssi [21:35] It's my backup when I can't use X. [21:35] hi xgizzmo_, long time no see [21:35] javyn : considering that irssi is not bx, some people haven't moved [21:35] (or was that creative camouflage, actually running irssi but using a bitchx-looking quitmsg?) [21:35] im using irssi, but about to go to xchat. i chat in the gui, so whats the point of opeing a terminal window to irc heh [21:35] Urchlay: hahaha [21:35] ananke: well i thought irssi was better, etc etc [21:35] javyn: to me using a terminal for IRC makes sense, it's a text-only app... [21:35] javyn: I use irssi all the time, no matter what. [21:36] javyn : there are plenty of reasons to use terminal. and 'better' is very subjective :) [21:36] ananke: true [21:36] i like weechat [21:36] and I spent some time learning to use irssi's perl scripting. xchat has perl too, but it's a completely different API and I'd have to start over... [21:36] does both splits vertical/horizontal and easy window switching [21:36] i never know when i receive a private /msg [21:36] cmk_zzz_ (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [21:36] i've been doing a lot of mibbit [21:36] javyn: in what, irssi? [21:37] firebird619: ya [21:37] this is new to me. i'm used to mirc, man [21:37] javyn: eh? whenever I get a private msg in irssi, I see a little red number [21:37] javyn: it shows up just above where you type [Act: #] [21:37] ah gotcha [21:37] last time i used mirc was back in '99 or so [21:38] last time I used mirc was on wine, just to see if it'd work (it did) [21:38] in maybe 1999 or 2000 [21:38] question: How can I exit /usr/bin/more from within a script? In interactive mode you can press q, but when more runs from a script it is harder. Like echo q | more file does not work. Neither does more file < unixfool: we've had some bad experiances with mibbit users in here. :P [21:38] cmk_zzz_: don't use more from a script? :) [21:38] can you do dcc xfers in irssi [21:38] cmk_zzz_, uhmm, and how would you know when to exit it? [21:39] javyn: you can dcc in irssi [21:39] chopp: yeah, the other ops have been keeping me informed [21:39] right on [21:39] cmk_zzz_: seriously though, more's an interactive program, it's rude to force-exit it (whole purpose is to give the user time to read something, which he can't do if you force it to quit before he's ready...) [21:39] firebird619: sweet [21:39] what makes things hard is that there are legit and cool users who use mibbit :/ [21:40] unixfool : thankfully mibbit makes it easier to ban said users, +d [21:40] i just noticed that mibbit.com is using linode.com nameservers [21:40] Well, I just want to skip a stupid licence agreement (java) when I repacakge their components. My build script needs to kill their more. [21:40] ananke: yep! [21:41] cmk_zzz_, uhmm, will you be releasing that repackaged java? [21:41] cmk_zzz_: the correct answer according to Sun would be "the license doesn't allow you to do that, so don't do that" [21:42] that said... does it actually run /usr/bin/more or just more from the user's PATH? 'cause if it's using $PATH, you could set "PATH=.:$PATH" in your script, and have ./more be a symlink to /bin/true or something [21:42] Action: lf4 likes htop a lot lol [21:42] ananke: Well, the licence agreement will be displayed when you install the version of java, but I don't need to read it when I package the software [21:43] urchlay: yeah, I thought of that, seems a bit clumpsy though [21:43] IAMWN (n=kvirc@24-107-62-139.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [21:43] urchlay no, it just runs more so I can PATH it i guess [21:43] cmk_zzz_, why can't you just kill it? find it in the process list, and kill [21:44] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:44] cmk_zzz_: IIRC, the java installer is one of those silly shell script archives, right? you could just patch it to not even show the license agreement... [21:45] (or write a script which pulls out just the archive part of the installer script, and extracts that...) [21:45] not to mention, did you explore options that this installer has? there may be a --quiet or something similar [21:45] Urchlay: I can patch it. But there are subtle differences between different versions. like linux, solaris, x86, x86_64. I am trying the PATH fiddling at the moment, and I hope that'll do. [21:45] for example nvidia installer has options to just extract it, or to install things non-interactively [21:46] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [21:47] ananke: I'll have a look at the script, but I haven't seen any options to it so far [21:47] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:48] cmk_zzz_: this is for your personal use only? 'cause you really aren't supposed to redistribute sun's java binaries without showing the license agreement... [21:49] something like "sed -i 's/\/true/' installer.sh" might do it [21:49] test34_ (n=alexb@user-142g4f9.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:49] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: [21:49] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [21:49] test34_ (n=alexb@user-142g4f9.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [21:49] hey [21:49] Hey Cann0n [21:49] firebird619: thanks. that worked good. [21:49] Urchlay: The java binaries are bundled with our software. The licence agreement is accepted elsewhere, not just in the install [21:49] Cann0n: awesome, good to hear. :) [21:50] i was skating lol. took a break [21:50] i need to add a gmail checker and then my conky would be souped the hell up! [21:50] Cann0n: nice. I haven't implemented that yet, but there's examples all over the place for that. [21:51] Urchlay: Yeah, might give that a wack [21:51] yeah [21:51] cmk_zzz_: well see if my sed -i idea is any good... [21:51] i need to redo my conky anyways [21:51] the weather section rocks! [21:51] Cann0n: I have a conky setup around here somewhere that implemented that, but I removed the gmail part. [21:52] i dont care if conky saps up my resources... this computer is so fast w fluxbox... [21:52] the previous conky I had actually seemed to slow the pc down. So I made the one I have now. [21:53] I take it from some of the comments here, that very few of you ever overclock you processors? [21:54] Urchlay: btw, I never remembered accepting a jdk licence agreement for the slackware package. How is that handled? [21:54] cmk_zzz_: Pat V. got permission from Sun [21:54] Shingoshi: I haven't overclocked since back when I had a Pentium-133 [21:55] Urchlay: cool [21:55] My Q9400 is running at 2.99GHz. That's a +300MHz overclock. [21:55] i never had the need to OC [21:56] Shingoshi: I did in fact melt a voodoo banshee card in my P133 box, overclocked both CPU and the video card, then played Quake III until the solder joints melted... [21:56] Shingoshi: I've said it before, I buy the required specs. [21:56] I should be able to run this chip at +3.4GHz. [21:56] Shingoshi, im using my lappy atm, they dont tend to overclock well... [21:56] hehe [21:56] my main rig is an old athlon 3000, OC to 2.0 [21:56] wow [21:56] lol Urchlay [21:56] Shingoshi : yeah, i overclocked a few things back in the p1/k6 era. these days i see little point to overclock things [21:56] I'm not talking about video cards. [21:56] (actually, the voodoo card wasn't damaged. The solder joints in the card *next to it* got melted by the heat coming off it) [21:57] It all boils down to dealing with the problems. Do you want to deal with overclocking and all of the possible issues that can come from that, combined with the normal issues or would you rather just deal with the uncompounded normal issues without the added possibility of "could it be the overclocking causing the problems?" [21:57] mine is a quad phenom 940 [21:57] I've got a pair of P4 rigs laying about, gona turn them into a folding farm [21:57] I can rarely ever find my processor loaded. Me, now that's another question... [21:57] hehe [21:57] antiwire : bingo. that extra 5-10% in extra computational power is not worth my trouble [21:58] same [21:58] IMO, i'd rather buy that 10% than worry about that 10% [21:58] There was no trouble here. Change the FSB and voltage. That was all that was needed. [21:59] Shingoshi: yeah? how long have you been in here talking about debugging it though? at least a week? [21:59] antiwire: I should have been able to get much more than 10% overclock. [21:59] You've been dicking around with it for at the very least at week [21:59] yup [21:59] thats the fun though :) [21:59] tinkering [21:59] I got it stable. And the problem was the EVGA board, not the chip! [22:00] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: No route to host [22:00] The EVGA was simply buggy! [22:00] Northbridge overheating? [22:00] ah ok [22:00] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-236-81.dsl.scarlet.be) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:00] lol [22:00] This is 747'd right over his head [22:00] nForce 7 boards were notoriously fussy overclockers [22:00] i have only had problems with anything nForce [22:00] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.147.237) joined ##slackware. [22:01] ls [22:01] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [22:01] Jhodas: I will get an Intel ich10r board next time. [22:01] Ups! Wrong window :-P [22:01] asarch: wrong term :P [22:01] D'oh! [22:01] hehe [22:01] lol [22:01] firebird619: my gf told be today... "once you go black, you never go back."... how do i respond to that? [22:01] Cann0n: got black paint? [22:01] 0.o [22:01] unixfool: no lol... [22:01] whut... [22:02] unixfool: haha [22:02] Cann0n: "hit me chocolat girl!" ;-) [22:02] i feel sorry for girls that think like that [22:02] or a penis pump might work [22:02] macavity: damn. you got a sick mind... i like it! [22:02] Cann0n: Who is and who isn't? [22:02] Cann0n: so does my GF :P [22:02] Cann0n: you dump her ASAP [22:02] this is no joke. [22:03] she's done. [22:03] depends on the context around what she said [22:03] imo [22:03] ok, i smell a falmewar comming on... [22:03] lol [22:03] Shingoshi: she is black/latin. im white lol [22:03] Cann0n: black and/or latin? [22:03] ahh...she prolly meant that she has you whipped [22:03] antiwire: this girl would rock your world and leave you stuck to the cieling... [22:03] macavity: both [22:03] Cann0n: nice [22:04] i'd probably die [22:04] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:04] Cann0n: bang her good and hard and she will love you for being a man.. and if not, go shopping elsewhere [22:04] Cann0n: ok, i say that about any woman of any color :P [22:05] PuroOsso (n=PuroOsso@189-31-29-67.bsace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "esqueci ligado" [22:05] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:05] Cann0n: She sounds like she could be Brazilian. Dear God! [22:05] except green. Those green star trek chicks, you can't trust 'em... [22:05] anyhows, enough with the perversions... good night gang [22:05] lol nah, she's addicted me like crack [22:05] lol [22:05] nite macavity [22:05] night macavity [22:05] anyone see Star Trek? [22:05] Cann0n: go for it.. pin her to the center of the earth with your **** :P [22:05] Action: macavity over and out [22:06] Cann0n: My tongue is addicted to crack too!! [22:06] javyn: the new one? yeah... was better than the last couple of trek movies, but that doesn't mean it's actually *good* [22:06] can I list more than one user in top (without use blank) in 'u' command ? [22:06] unixfool, ltns [22:06] juice! sup man...btw...wtf is ltns? [22:06] lol [22:07] long time no see [22:07] ltns ^^ [22:07] lol [22:07] as firebird619 said [22:07] heh. You can actually type "wtf is ltns" at a bash prompt and get that answer. [22:07] Urchlay: really? [22:08] try it [22:08] i'm a ST fanatic [22:08] i'm concerned Abrams screwed it up [22:08] ahh [22:08] haha [22:08] hi there !! [22:08] X:) [22:08] kinda scared to see it [22:08] Urchlay: haha, I'm on zsh, it works there too. Sweet. [22:08] firebird619, wtf is a program that translates acronyms for you [22:08] javyn: he didn't screw it up any worse than star treks 8 through 10 were screwed up [22:08] no way [22:08] of course it works. it works on any shell as long as you have access to wtf(7) [22:08] juice: Umm, bash? :P [22:08] wtf(6) [22:08] yosii (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [22:09] Action: Jhodas has just read back.... [22:09] BP{k}: Ah, I didn't know that. [22:09] exotic girls that like m16 machine guns and comic books... FTW [22:09] javyn: and you know damn well you're going to see it, question is just when are you going to see it? :) [22:09] ok, i'm likely to look like an idiot, but here goes [22:09] Urchlay: eh...8-10 weren't the best but they weren't screwed up by any means [22:09] no idea why the hell they used 20 yr old actors...they look like they're fresh out of college [22:09] lost access to docs that walked me through wifi config [22:09] and trying to get my wifi working on slamd [22:09] unixfool: they're actually supposed to be fresh out of college (well, starfleet academy), is why [22:09] Urchlay: ya seen jandrew's star trek tng edits yet? [22:09] friggin hilarious man! [22:09] unixfool: it's a prequel [22:09] Urchlay: And by the way, I only had trouble with my system for one night, when I first installed my new heatsink. It was stable before that, and stable ever since. [22:10] Urchlay: fresh out of college and commanding a star ship [22:10] Urchlay, if i remember, you helped me out last time [22:10] anakin skywalker is only 6... oh wait, different prequel [22:10] i somehow have a problem wrapping logic around that [22:10] http://www.jandrewedits.com/ [22:10] unixfool: yeah. I didn't say it wasn't silly... [22:10] Urchlay: wrong movie [22:10] :) [22:10] check out those videos, you will piss yourself [22:10] i [22:10] sorry ! (??) [22:10] i'll check it out anyways [22:10] but I don't *wanna* piss myself! [22:11] trust me [22:11] watch them, you'll appreciate it [22:11] im way behind in the movies, tho...still havent seen wolverine yet [22:11] yosii: I have completely forgot what your problem was and what the solution was... care to explain? [22:11] or fast and furious [22:11] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:12] unixfool, i want to see that [22:12] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [22:12] Urchlay, i got an ath5k wifi card, it's unable to see broadcasting networks without modification...i forget the modifications [22:13] unixfool, what did you think of tokyo drift? [22:13] firebird619: do me a fav? could you email me? [22:13] need to test conky [22:13] it was better than the one before it, which is saying a lot [22:13] Cann0n: sure [22:14] tyrese will fuck up a movie [22:14] thanks [22:14] I liked him tbh [22:14] Cann0n: np. [22:14] paul walker will fuck up a movie [22:14] lol [22:14] he's a better actor that paul walker at any reate [22:14] movies these days suck ass! [22:14] ^^ [22:14] aka, every movie he's in [22:14] thank god VD returned, tho [22:14] that didn't sound right [22:14] rofl [22:14] paul walker is worse than keanu reeves...and will ferrell [22:15] yosii: hrrr, the only advice I probably gave you was to (a) use madwifi instead of the built-in ath5k driver, and possibly (b) hard-code the SSID in /etc/rc.d/rc.wireless.conf [22:15] Urchlay, the builtin worked last time...but i could try madwifi [22:16] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:16] will ferrell movies are like blazing saddle type movies....horribly stupid comedy but unique...you know its stupid but its still funny [22:16] Cann0n: It's sent. :) [22:16] its not really unique [22:16] my wife cant stand mel brookes productions [22:16] he plays the same role every movie [22:16] got it [22:17] same character, different name [22:17] already hard-coded the ssid in...no dice [22:17] Cann0n: it worked? [22:17] yep [22:17] straterra: so do other actors [22:17] jim carrey to [22:17] too* [22:17] Cann0n: sweet [22:17] whats his face...the happy gilmore dude [22:17] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:17] I like jim carrey [22:17] not seen too much of will ferrel tbh [22:17] only bad thing now is... id like thunderbird to mark them as read on the web gmail [22:18] Cann0n: Hmm, I think there's a way to do that, not sure what it is though. [22:18] unixfool, adam sandler? [22:18] there ya go [22:19] Cann0n: you using pop3 with gmail or imap? [22:19] unixfool, I find him really bland [22:19] Action: unixfool uses imap every chance he gets [22:19] Action: nooper <3 imap [22:19] pop [22:19] Jhodas: about the only movie of his i really liked was Click [22:20] wait, there was also the one with Drew Barrymore [22:20] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.110.173) joined ##slackware. [22:20] 30 dates or something like that [22:20] wonder if apple is currently trying to get the imap protocol renamed so they can release their competitor to google maps (iMap)... [22:20] haha [22:20] Cann0n: That will work if you use imap. [22:21] yosii: eh, uhm, if I was able to figure out your wireless problem before, I sure can't remember it now... [22:21] found it... it's on gmails wed options [22:22] unixfool: I'd use imap, but my isp only has that for business accounts, yet when I had fetchmail detect supported protocols, it said imap was supported and I'm not on a business account. :P [22:22] Urchlay, it's ok [22:22] Urchlay, thanks anyways [22:22] yosii: If you remember when about he helped you, you could grep your logs. [22:22] firebird619: ouch...that sucks [22:22] firebird619: lol mind sending me one more? :) [22:23] Cann0n: no [22:23] sec [22:23] lol [22:23] unixfool: I know, otherwise I'd use that too. [22:23] night all [22:23] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: [22:23] firebird619, easier said than done...the logs are in a backup [22:23] doh! [22:23] unixfool: I'd try using it beings fetchmail said it was supported, but I can just see it, the next bill will be double because I used imap. :{ [22:23] s/:{/:P [22:24] lol [22:25] crap [22:25] unixfool: what? :P [22:26] ok, i'm officially an idiot [22:26] your imap situation [22:26] firebird619: your isp doesn't let you make imap connections to anywhere? [22:26] unixfool: yeah, I know. [22:27] i pushed the power button for the wifi card, a soft button at that, and the thing came to life [22:27] nooper: No, according to their web site, they only let you use imap if you have a business account. [22:27] yosii: hahahahahahahah [22:27] yosii: haha [22:27] classic [22:27] It's alive, ALIVE [22:27] firebird619, yeah, i DO feel like tool now [22:27] firebird619: did they mean imap for the email accounts that they provide, or imap to any external connections too? [22:27] yosii, my housemate did exactly that about a week ago [22:27] gotta love those buttons [22:27] nooper: not sure, it doesn't really explain well. [22:27] my wife's old laptop is the same way...i hate them [22:28] Jhodas, the issue, the button didn't work on ubuntu [22:28] Cann0n: Second e-mail sent. :) [22:28] got it thx. seeing if that does the trick! [22:29] k, good luck [22:29] nooper: I'm looking for that page again now. :) [22:29] yosii, ah, im with you [22:29] Action: yosii walks off to hang self... [22:30] Action: Jhodas confiscates all ropes in the immediate vicinity [22:30] tech support says check the power [22:30] yosii (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:30] firebird619: YAY! it works! [22:31] Cann0n: awesome [22:32] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]" [22:32] i wish this laptop had an external temp gauge. lol. [22:33] i wish my baby wasnt in the army. i miss her dearly... :( [22:33] lol, [22:33] Action: Cann0n pouts in the corner for the next 6 months [22:33] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [22:34] that must suck. [22:34] yeah... it does. lol. i wont cheat on her... she is my soulmate. [22:34] first girlfriend? [22:34] no. lol [22:35] just... the one. [22:35] suuuuuuure [22:35] lol [22:35] lol [22:35] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [22:35] yosii (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [22:35] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [22:35] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [22:35] she might as well by wy first [22:35] they said the same thing about Neo [22:35] i was single for 2.5 years before her [22:36] if you think is meant to be that's awesome dude [22:36] this is a noob question... why the hell is my time always slow? i set it once a month it seems... [22:37] you overclock? [22:37] probably a hardware issue [22:37] Cann0n: I have that trouble as well. [22:37] Jhodas: thats. ive became a different person since ive meet her [22:37] slackd00d (n=slackd00@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) joined ##slackware. [22:37] chowabunga: negative [22:37] unixfool (i=4421c1cc@about/slackware/wigglit) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [22:37] its called clock drift [22:37] it's starting to piss me off. how do i sync it? ima cron that shit [22:37] chowabunga: thanks. i never knew what it was called [22:37] ntpdate pool.ntp.org [22:38] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Client Quit [22:38] btw, ntpdate will be deprecated in the near future [22:38] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:38] in slack or in general? [22:38] ananke: replaced with what, rdate? [22:38] in general [22:38] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:38] Jhodas : in general, which means eventually in slackware [22:38] chowabunga: I just ran ntpdate, I was 8 minutes slow. [22:38] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:38] yeah, i'm the tool today [22:38] (hm, slackware doesn't seem to actually have rdate...) [22:39] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [22:39] Urchlay : nope. 'sntp' or preferrably you'll just use ntpd [22:39] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [22:40] ntpd is far easier to manage imho [22:40] bleah, don't really wanna run a daemon on a non-critical machine just for that [22:40] Action: Dominian has a basic ntp.conf he can offer up [22:40] Urchlay : http://pastebin.com/d654dd0ec [22:40] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Client Quit [22:40] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:40] nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) joined ##slackware. [22:40] and yeah, it's very easy to get ntpd going. set and forget [22:41] unixfool (i=4421c1cc@about/slackware/wigglit) joined ##slackware. [22:41] edman007 (n=edman007@68-191-50-160.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:41] shit... ima have to suda that shit arent i... in cron for my user [22:41] s/suda/sudo [22:41] i hate editing sudoers... [22:41] yeah, I've done the ntpd thing for "serious" server type machines [22:42] Plebeo (n=igor@201.21.168.212) joined ##slackware. [22:42] Cann0n: why not have it run from root's crontab then? [22:42] ima have it sync the time every night at midnight [22:42] Plebeo (n=igor@201.21.168.212) left ##slackware. [22:42] yeah, and you can have root do it instead of your user, that way no sudo required... [22:42] Urchlay: i dont want cron running as root lol. i have root locked down pretty good [22:43] pressed the wrong button :/ [22:43] ehm. Cron *does* run as root though... unless you went to the trouble to change it (in which case, are you sure it still works?) [22:43] $ ps aux|grep crond [22:43] root 2981 0.0 0.1 1912 644 ? S May15 0:00 /usr/sbin/crond -l10 [22:43] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:44] heh. your right. [22:44] root it is [22:44] i have user as well [22:44] SuN (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [22:45] ananke: looks like my rc.local on my laptop will get changed to call sntp instead of ntpdate, thanks for that [22:45] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:46] (the poor thing's starved for RAM so I don't run ntpd or even crond on it...) [22:46] Dominus (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:46] where is crontab file for root? [22:46] i never cared to remember lol [22:48] Offtopic, what is the name of the offense you do where it isnt a criminal charge, its _____. Like when you do copyright infringment [22:49] Cann0n: "su -" then run "crontab -e" [22:49] misdemenner [22:49] tank-man: not a criminal charge at all? that would be a "civil suit" [22:49] i mean where the other party sues you, not the gov [22:49] yea civil [22:49] yeah i did but it's all fubared. i have to hit enter to see the lines already there [22:49] thanks for the vocab :) [22:49] though they're usually not handled in a very civil manner... [22:50] cant i edit it with vim? [22:50] PuroOsso (n=PuroOsso@189-31-29-67.bsace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:52] how do i edit it with -e? wtf kind of editor is that? [22:52] paissad (n=paissad@111.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:52] it probably is based on $SOME_VARIABLE [22:53] everything is set to vim... i made sure lol [22:53] $VISUAL [22:53] cant i just edit a file with vim? this is why i do things the hard way [22:54] i'll just sudo that shit. i cant find the file to edit [22:54] wdyy (n=yy64@123.80.25.42) joined ##slackware. [22:54] export VISUAL=/usr/bin/vim [22:55] fevel (n=fevel@189.4.233.162) joined ##slackware. [22:55] eh, unless it's been fixed, you'll find vim fails to actually change your crontab, if you run "crontab -e" as root... [22:56] i do but i cant edit it.... i have to hold enter to see all the lines [22:56] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.147.237) left irc: "Auribus teneos lupus: I hold the wolf by the ears" [22:56] add "set backupcopy=yes" to /root/.vimrc [22:56] something's wrong with your $TERM then... no idea what [22:59] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]" [23:00] lol beats me dude [23:00] fuck it. brb. smokey break [23:01] Any idea why I get this: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/13805 with mencoder when specifying x:y, yet I don't when I have x:y as 0? [23:01] Jhodas (n=Jhodas@cpc4-seac20-2-0-cust262.7-2.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:02] it says you dont have the codec [23:03] yeah, and then it tries a different codec, which works (that's not a fatal error in other words) [23:03] chowabunga: Yeah, I seen that, but when I don't specify x:y using the same codec, it's fine, it just doesn't crop it when I don't specify x:y. [23:03] you seen it? [23:03] [CROP] Bad position/width/height - cropped area outside of the original! <--- that's the fatal error [23:03] can we see the actual command? [23:03] sure [23:04] mencoder -vf crop=1530:990:640:480 video.ogg -ovc lavc -oac mp3lame -o video-cropped.ogg [23:04] you cant crop with a single point [23:04] he's not [23:04] mplayer man page: crop=::: [23:05] where'd you get that set of values? from -vf cropfilter? [23:06] er, -vf cropdetect, I mean [23:06] I got the 1530:990 from -vf cropdetect [23:06] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:06] the other two numbers I tried setting for it to crop to that and get rid of the black borders. [23:07] cropdetect output is supposed to be usable as-is... did you try with no x/y? and did it not work? [23:07] yeah, I tried with no x/y, it didn't crop/change at all [23:07] , Position of the cropped picture, defaults to center. [23:08] you sure? I mean, if the movie's aspect ratio doesn't match your monitor's, and you're running in fullscreen, mplayer will add black bars... [23:08] are you trying to crop out blackbars or resize the video? [23:08] (take it out of fullscreen mode with the F key...) [23:09] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [23:09] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:10] positive. This was a web stream on the Internet, I was in opera. The video itself played in the center of the screen with black arouned it (i.e. the black bars) When I play the video after running it through mencoder, it's still the same, it shows the entire opera window and all still. [23:10] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-172-208.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [23:11] how do can I take a image captura of a video dvd or a video file in slackware? [23:11] ohhh, the original's inside an opera window? [23:11] s/captura/capture [23:11] dissociative, print screen doesnt work? [23:11] cropdetect won't be smart enough to figure out that the opera window is part of the garbage you want to get rid of, you'll need to manually figure it out [23:11] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [23:11] tank-man, I need only the window where the video is playinh [23:12] argh [23:12] maybe you already know it, but you can run "mplayer -crop ...whatever" for testing, so you don't have to sit & wait for mencoder to finish, every time [23:12] kde's printscreen can do that, but most players have built in function to do that [23:12] Urchlay: I used recordmydesktop. I specified to recordmydesktop to just record the video portion and not opera and everything else, but it didn't do that, it captured the entire screen. [23:12] dissociative, under mplayer, press s [23:12] tank-man, I think that kde capture cant capture hardware overlays [23:12] I have no idea what "recordmydesktop" is, so no comment on that :) [23:13] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:13] Urchlay: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/recordmydesktop/ [23:13] firebird619: honestly if I were trying to grab a video from a web page, I'd be more likely to figure out a way to download the video (rather than playing it in whatever crappy player flash thingy it uses) [23:14] On windows it would've used windows media player, but on linux, it used gecko-mediaplayer. I couldn't find a different way to record it, I tried and looked around, this was the only way. [23:14] I suppose this isn't youtube? (if it was, you could use "youtube-dl", works wonders) [23:14] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:14] no, not youtube. [23:14] wtf?!?!? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1183016/Is-Dog-o-Matic-owners-best-friend.html [23:15] firebird619, look in your browser cache for the video and then use mencoder on that [23:15] firebird619: what's the url, I'll have a look... [23:15] (I am that damn bored...) [23:16] Urchlay: it's down now. It was the high school's (the one I went to) graduation today and they had a live stream today of it. I know someone that graduated today. [23:17] ah [23:17] tank-man: yeah, I can try that, I'll find where opera stores it's cache. [23:17] well do like tank-man said, it's gotta be in yer cache... [23:17] cetterra (n=cadu@200.220.195.122) left irc: "Saindo" [23:17] look for a big file with today's timestamp [23:17] tank-man: k, will do. Thanks. [23:18] Urchlay: It didn't have an mms: link or anything, I looked hard. Sometimes with stuff like that I'll just let vlc get it, but couldn't in this case. 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[23:19] sweet, ~/.opera/cache4 :) that was easy, now to look for the file [23:20] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:20] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [23:20] tank-man: there's only 2480 files in there. :P [23:20] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:20] yea, find files created today and sort by size [23:20] easy :) [23:21] yup, doing so right now. :) [23:21] It helps too that the icons for video have that little film reel. :P [23:21] for that matter... find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 file | grep -v text | grep -v image [23:22] backinty back [23:22] will eliminate the vast majority of 'em, and the rest it'll show what "file" thinks they are [23:22] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) left irc: "Saliendo" [23:23] well' thanks for the help Urchlay and tank-man [23:23] Not seeing it there at all. [23:23] i just sudoed it in my user. [23:24] sudo make me a sandwich! [23:24] Action: Cann0n makes a chicken and rubber band sammich for Urchlay [23:24] scubacuda_ (i=rog@95.sub-75-249-79.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [23:24] rubber band, yikes [23:25] a sammich that bites back. :P or snaps rather. [23:25] lol [23:25] if you order a chicken sandwich at IHOP, you can't really tell whether it's chicken or a rubber chicken [23:25] haha [23:25] seriously, their food quality has taken a nosedive in the past few years [23:25] I've never been to ihop [23:25] man... i cant believe how depressed i am about my girl in the army... i cant hear her voice until next weekend :'( [23:25] (I'd hesitate to even try the pancakes..) [23:26] IHOP sucks. waffle house is the shit [23:26] scubacuda_ (i=rog@95.sub-75-249-79.myvzw.com) left irc: SendQ exceeded [23:26] s/the // [23:26] :) [23:26] lol [23:26] i go to WH for the atmosphere... and to buy weed. [23:26] (no, actually, I like waffle house, it's just that it's so easy to make fun of...) [23:26] Well, looks like the cache way is a lost cause. It's not in there. :( [23:26] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:26] yeah lol [23:26] haha antiwire there's a few cats here where I'm staying I'd like to run through that Dog-o-Matic. :P [23:26] heh, I got fired once from a WH for refusing to sell weed for the manager [23:27] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:27] lol [23:27] Urchlay: really? [23:27] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [23:27] scubacuda_ (i=rog@95.sub-75-249-79.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [23:27] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:27] lol [23:27] Did ya turn him in? [23:27] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:27] that wouldnt surprise me at all [23:27] Cann0n: yeah. Although he wrote up some bogus report with a fake reason for firing... [23:27] firebird619: no, I didn't narc on him [23:27] the manager at the WH i hung out at 50 hours a week sold meth [23:27] Cann0n: makes ya wonder what was in the waffles then. :P [23:27] Cann0n: is that why you hung out there for 50 hrs/week? [23:28] firebird619: lol i got to cook my own waffles! [23:28] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "you can only tell an idiot something for his own good so many times. then you just have to let him do that something stupid.. [23:28] Urchlay: lol nah. i met my best friend there [23:28] actually. You know that supposedly one-way mirror they have, in the manager's office? [23:28] yeah [23:28] scubacuda_ (i=rog@95.sub-75-249-79.myvzw.com) left irc: Client Quit [23:29] by the booth in the back near the shitters lol [23:29] gtl (n=gtl@201.47.47.4.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:29] was working at a WH once in the back room, the manager calls me into the office, says "dude, look at these 2 fine chicks" (through the mirror)... he thinks they can't see him, and starts picking his nose... [23:30] they point & laugh [23:30] LOL! [23:30] only works whene the door is shut and the lights are off in there LOL [23:30] thats epic ownage [23:30] yeah, he turned an interesting shade of red [23:30] i bet lol [23:31] scubacuda (n=rog@206.113.95.131) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:31] need help with libgio-2.0.so.0 g_thread_gettime error at vmware startup [23:31] i used to get free meals, smoke inside (after the salws were passed) and i even showed up for the meetings lol [23:31] i was family there [23:32] gtl (n=gtl@201.47.47.4.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:32] gtl (n=gtl@201.47.47.4.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:32] need help with libgio-2.0.so.0 g_thread_gettime error at vmware startup [23:33] it was cool. WH where i was at was the place the womans work release prison sent the girls [23:33] gtl: did you try google.com, search for "libgio-2.0.so.0 g_thread_gettime error at vmware startup"? [23:33] cause I just did, and the first hit is actually relevant [23:33] Urchlay, yes, but to no avail [23:33] (it's on an ubuntu forum, but the proposed solution is distro-independent) [23:33] Urchlay: lol. letmegooglethatforyou.com [23:33] gtl: do you have libgio? [23:34] Cann0n: speaking as an ex-WH employee, let me just say I don't miss it [23:34] he has libgio, needs a newer one [23:34] umislack (i=1000@58.64.92.86) joined ##slackware. [23:34] lol. i miss WH. it was a place to go 24/7 [23:34] Cann0n, yup, i do [23:35] i hung out with 3rh shift mostly, but i knew them all. [23:35] (preferably a newer one in a nonstandard directory, which he will LD_PRELOAD for vmware only) [23:35] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.227) joined ##slackware. [23:35] Cann0n: I did get superhumanly good at crosswords and cryptoquotes, when I worked 3rd shift... [23:36] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-159-125.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [23:36] er, wait, *older* version of libgio [23:36] hm [23:36] lol [23:37] hmm, ok, what version? [23:37] i got awesome at sudoku [23:37] gtl: how should I know? here's what I'm reading: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vmware-package/+bug/287259 [23:37] lol [23:38] Cann0n: the cryptoquotes, most of the time I could do them in my head entirely, and just write down the answer... file that under "stupid human tricks" I guess [23:38] you go and 'hang out' at waffle house? [23:38] I'm not sure what to think of that. [23:38] lol. antiwire weeknights after the bars close, you might as well chill there [23:38] antiwire: well I'm talking about 10 years ago when I got paid to hang out there (I worked there... it just got really really slow at 3AM during the week) [23:38] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-159-125.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [23:39] i hung out at a very slow WH... it was sweet. [23:39] dude, i new all the regulars there. i used to bring my keyboard or guitar up there [23:39] once i saw a bunch of cops smoking weed in the parking lot [23:40] hey, wait, what town was this in? [23:40] do they even serve beer? [23:40] Gaineville GA [23:40] antiwire: depends on whose working... i brought booze [23:40] thanks guys, i'll search a bit more [23:40] and weed. [23:40] gtl (n=gtl@201.47.47.4.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [23:40] GA, right... I was working at WH 10 years ago in the 'burbs north of Atlanta [23:41] guess I didn't meet you back then though [23:41] how far north? [23:41] Marietta/Smyrna/Kennesaw [23:41] thats where im from [23:41] lol, ive been to over 60 WHs [23:41] fuck the ATL. it dirty [23:41] *shrug*, this is where I'm from and here is where I live... [23:42] Gville is 50 miles north of ATL [23:42] you know a little hyperactive dude name of Eric? [23:42] which one? [23:42] (white guy, red hair, plays the drums) [23:43] do they call him Red? [23:43] not that I know of [23:43] just Eric [23:43] dunno. i lived up there for 21 years [23:43] is he in a reggae band? [23:43] and sings while drumming? [23:43] he has been at various times [23:44] in a blues band now I think [23:44] huehuemayorga (n=chatzill@69.79.75.32) joined ##slackware. [23:44] never heard him sing... [23:44] it's possible. ive seen tons of bands in ATL at the mascarade [23:45] strikers in Macon, cotton club aka the tabernacle [23:45] javyn (n=avery@adsl-70-242-7-115.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:45] what area are you in? [23:45] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [23:45] nvm lol [23:45] u answered it lol [23:45] heh. Saw Pantera there, before they were famous. Put on good show, lead singer got in a fight with the singer of the opening band :) [23:45] lol hell yeah [23:45] currently living in Dallas GA [23:46] dallas, ga? [23:46] (it may be the sticks, but there's fast internet and the rent is cheap) [23:46] never been to dallas ga [23:46] probably missed it as i drove past [23:46] whats it near? [23:47] it's in paulding county, if you're coming from marietta you take 120 west, drive thru marietta, then hiram, then you're in dallas [23:47] no, i definitely haven't been there [23:47] ah, yeah. 120W, never did much on that side [23:48] been most other parts of ga, but not that one [23:48] PuroOsso (n=PuroOsso@189-31-29-67.bsace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "o/" [23:48] I assume you been to Helen GA? [23:48] yeah [23:48] my buddys dad owned a bar there [23:48] for like 2 years [23:48] either during oktoberfest, or else they do all the silly leiderhosen dancing stuff year-round [23:48] yeah lol [23:49] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-159-125.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:49] please, can I list more than one user in top (without use blank) with 'u' command ? [23:49] man top [23:50] Cann0n: yea... Im there [23:50] i find that in some cases, the ps command is better [23:50] or pstree [23:50] i believe [23:51] Urchlay: you been to that graffiti shop on forsyth street in ATL? [23:51] one side is all painted up? [23:51] where is top developer at this moment !? X:/ [23:51] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-75-249.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:52] Asmadeus: letmegooglethatforyou.com [23:52] Heya,folks How's everyone? [23:52] hrrr, forsyth street, not even sure what part of town that is [23:52] MLanden: hey. im god. u? [23:52] Cann0n: that is an awesome link! [23:52] Hey MLanden, doing good, you? [23:52] haha [23:52] i use that at work sometimes [23:52] Urchlay: near 5 points station [23:52] Good thanks Cann0n [23:53] "big 5 points", not little 5? [23:53] lol unixfool i love it. it's not as bad as a slap in the face... but it will do. [23:53] Doin' good,thanks firebird619 [23:54] little 5 points has gotten taken over by yuppies and nazi skinheads, I don't go there any more [23:54] firedix (n=firedix@201.254.123.22) joined ##slackware. [23:54] Urchlay: soon as you leave te station, take the street down the right side to the next light, the left 2 blocks. [23:54] Urchlay: yeah... and gay people you cant tell their sex. [23:54] i used that link on the LQ.org forums once, and the guy never responded back [23:54] lol [23:55] LOL [23:55] actually those might not be gay... if you can't tell their sex, you can't really tell... [23:55] anyway I got no problem with them, they don't start fights with people for no reason [23:56] some gays, you know straightup that they're gay (those that are on fire, that is) [23:56] man, one time i was on marta at lil 5 points, this crazy old black lady started jumping cars and started calling be KKK CIA mother fucker and i was 1 of 2 white people in that car [23:56] s/be/me [23:58] she was crazy. i got on the car she wasnt on because she was yelling like crazy... "i see you watching me! you cant see me!" [23:58] man i miss GA [23:58] so many good times... so many bad times... [23:59] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:00] --- Mon May 18 2009