[00:00] FriedBob (n=Fried@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:01] FriedBob (n=Fried@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. [00:01] actually, that was one criticism my gf had when using kubuntu [00:01] too much stuff ended up in network/ [00:01] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:01] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:03] What's kubuntu? :P [00:04] I know of Big Brown (aka Ubuntu). :) [00:04] all I can say is, get your rsync's done now, cuz next ?week? YAUR is coming [00:04] firebird619: ubuntu with KDE [00:05] "YAUR"==yet-another-ubunut-release [00:05] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [00:05] Anyone know about PXE servers? Is it true you can have a PXE server on a network which already has a DHCP server? [00:07] Jsonic (n=jsonic@189.63.215.52) left irc: "Leaving" [00:08] Old_Fogie: that's a good acronym. [00:08] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:08] I'll be here all week :) [00:09] Old_Fogie: good to know. :) [00:17] /beer [00:22] installpkg beer [00:22] .carton [00:22] slackpkg upgrade beer [00:23] we are working on a robot that will bring cold beers from the fridge [00:23] erizoe (n=kambee@ip72-209-59-92.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:23] you seen the beer launcher [00:23] erisco (n=kambee@72.209.59.92) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:23] grandkids, or kids, or combo there of [00:23] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [00:23] lmao [00:23] haha [00:24] what about the dog? [00:24] remote controls, beer, and cigs/cigar [00:24] you gotta luv em', got a warm spot in my heart for them :) [00:24] I have learned to believe the only reason my father and my grandfather had children was to have "something" that would bring them stuff [00:24] twolf, cut grass, and shovel snow and take out trash, you forgot that [00:24] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:25] lmao [00:25] oh, and pass a wrench when we're under the car working on it [00:25] the beer launcher if anyone hasn't seen it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7sZKlub86g [00:25] sometimes, I push it, asking them to find my car keys [00:26] usually when I spend > 10 min looking for my keys they were in my pocket the whole time [00:26] yeah, I've found they're normally in the last spot I left them. [00:27] beer laucher ftw [00:30] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" 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[02:14] _ohm (n=mark@own30694RN.rh.ncsu.edu) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [02:14] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@69.79.74.201) joined ##slackware. [02:15] yarvin (n=yarvin@247-121-74-65.gci.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:17] edman007: yes it is [02:17] at least according to wpa_supplicant [02:17] and it used to work perfectly fine [02:18] it has only been doing this the last few days [02:18] ehh... [02:18] try disconnecting it and reconnecting it [02:19] and now time for bed...bye [02:19] I have [02:19] and rebooted numerous times [02:19] mmlj4 (n=jkelly@ip70-171-94-246.no.no.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:25] pacman87 (i=500@resnet-46-40.dorm.utexas.edu) joined ##slackware. [02:26] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:27] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. 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[03:24] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:24] Frullet (n=Frullet@124-168-168-79.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: [03:25] erizoe (n=kambee@ip72-209-59-92.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:26] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.107) joined ##slackware. [03:29] i installed wicd in slackware 12.2, when cd to /etc/wicd and vi wireless-settings.conf, i saw nothing. how should i configure it to make my wireless connection working? [03:29] FYI: the wicd recognized my wired connection by default. [03:30] frullet (n=Bob@124-168-168-79.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [03:31] hughszg, there's a gui front end to it. [03:32] hughszg, wicd runs as a daemon, then you use a gui in your desk enviro to config; [03:32] hey fellas [03:33] hello [03:33] Hi frullet. How are you? [03:33] firebird619: good mate yourself? [03:33] frullet: Doing great, thank you. [03:34] Old_Fogie: yes, there is, I used to gui to connect my wired connection, [03:34] but it doesn't recognize my wireless signal [03:34] dunnen (n=mike@ip98-166-14-105.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [03:35] a little more information, i installed slackware in virtualbox 2.2.0 on vista host [03:35] well, i'm confused, why are you 'vi' in /etc...when there's a gui that you put your credentials into ? [03:35] hughszg, why are you trying to use wireless inside a vm [03:35] i think you are confused [03:36] "a little" <--- That's an understatement :) [03:36] Old_Fogie: no, when i opened gui, there is only a wired connection awaiting me to connect to the internet, no wireless available, that's why. [03:37] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "sleep." [03:37] i just want to learn how to configure wireless in slackware, or linux [03:37] martian67: [03:37] you wont be able to do that inside a VM [03:37] hughszg, I've never , and I mean never heard of someone doing wireless in a vm, [03:37] a vm only emulates an ethernet card [03:37] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [03:37] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [03:37] although it IS possible with some VMs USB passthroughs [03:38] dunnen (n=mike@ip98-166-14-105.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:38] hughszg, but I'm sure patches are welcome at vbox [03:38] does that mean, slackware can only use the internet connection offered by a vm, say virtualbox? [03:38] why the hell would you want to anyways? [03:38] hughszg, yea it can't just 'make up" a device [03:38] slackware is behind the times, it hasn't figured out how to make fake wireless cards for vm testing :) [03:39] ok, that makes sense, :) [03:39] hughszg, it's ok, it's 340 am here, you're off the hook :) [03:40] it's 1540 in shanghai [03:40] :) [03:40] dunnen (n=mike@98.166.14.105) joined ##slackware. [03:40] oh, then you got no excuse ... off to noobfarm you now :) [03:41] teasing :) [03:42] lol [03:43] anyone run awesome3? [03:44] I haven't run awesome in decades, hurt my back [03:44] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "sleep." [03:44] what? how so? [03:44] stairs got the best of me. i can walk, run if I had to, but I'd feel it for weeks [03:45] lol [03:45] your name is fitting [03:45] glad you find my pain amusing :) [03:45] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [03:45] don't worry. i am suffering over here too [03:46] i am having trouble getting awesome3 to install on my slack machine [03:46] oh? the window manager, heh, I thought the 3 when you typed awesome3 was a 'fat finger' mistake, hee hee I go back to my hole in the ground now :) [03:47] that's why I spoke about my back and running, heh [03:47] lol [03:47] i was confused at first [03:48] good thing he didn't ask a 'hard' question :) [03:48] Lord knows what I might have spat out then [03:48] then i thought you were going for a joke and just went along with it [03:48] hughszg (n=root@58.33.146.116) left ##slackware. [03:49] It's been one of them days, was wondering for about 4 times in a row, why aptitude upgrade wasn't working on my slack box earlier. [03:49] Old_Fogie: seriously? [03:50] oh yea I do that crap all the time, installpkg on debian, and aptitude on slack [03:50] Do you have these days often? [03:50] been bouncing too much lately getting debian fixed, to give out to others [03:50] had to rebuild/upgrade about 30 apps, to get debian right [03:51] i use debian on my server and really wanted to learn how linux works so i installed slack [03:51] it's all done now, be in Slack only for next 3 years til' a new debian comes out, n gotta do it all over again [03:51] People on linux for first time, or sort of doing upgrades for them? [03:51] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:51] firebird619, friends/family that are too far away for me to give them slackware/maintain for them. [03:52] dunnen: Welcome to slackware. :) Enjoy your stay. [03:52] relatives that are close get slack [03:53] firebird619: thanks. still trying to get awesome3 to work but other than that i am enjoying it [03:53] nice, I used Debian before I came to slack, I think that's about the only other linux I'd use if I couldn't use slack. [03:53] Old_Fogie: ^^ [03:53] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.223.88) joined ##slackware. [03:53] dunnen: I probably can't help with that, but what problem are you having? [03:53] firebird619, yea debian is my second choice too. [03:54] hence, why I give it out [03:54] firebird619: just problems with a shared library. i think i am on to something now [03:54] i would recomend archlinux [03:55] Old_Fogie: I started using linux with RH 7.3. I remember compiling xfce from source, each individual piece of it and making sure the order was right. [03:55] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [03:55] dunnen: Are you installing awesome from slackbuilds.org? [03:55] dunnen, I wouldn't to a home user (windows convert) , and I mean "home" user, not a hacker by nature. The people I'm referring to, are no way ever going to fix (or live with) breakage possibilities, etc. [03:56] they struggle with "click reload in synaptic..mark upgrades..ok now paste me what it says it wants to do in IM window,..ok click apply now" [03:56] firebird619: no, that version is really dated. I am tring to do it from the source [03:57] my freinds and family dont even now what 'root' is. [03:57] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:57] dunnen: Ok, was just curious. I didn't know if you knew about slackbuilds.org or not beings your relatively new here. That's always a great place to check and see if it has what your looking for. [03:57] I just 'do it' for them, and done. they just use the box. it's not "firefox" it's "internet" :) [03:57] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:57] Old_Fogie: I haven't really had much breakage with arch but i understand. [03:57] teh intarwebs? [03:58] Hey Urchlay. How's it going? [03:58] welp, I gotta run, night night all. [03:58] punding headache, otherwise good [03:58] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@69.204.70.243) left irc: [03:58] Old_Fogie: Good Night. [03:58] er, pounding headace [03:58] Headaches are never fun. [03:58] and it's making me type worse than usual [03:58] vatgas (n=val@123.145.42.216) joined ##slackware. [03:59] I only ever get headaches when I have a cold or something, thankfully. [03:59] And I don't get those often either, so I do well. :) [03:59] Urchlay: Does tylenol or anything help? [03:59] I got this one maybe from sitting in a weird chair [04:00] dunno yet, just now took ibuprofen, give it a minute to do its thing [04:00] Urchlay: That'll do it. Sitting wierd gets your neck and whatnot in a wierd position and next thing you know...headache. [04:01] that drummer's house was where I parked one of my basses, so I didn't bring one... forgot that one is the one where the strap pin ripped out of the wood [04:01] aceofspa2es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [04:01] only way to play that bass is sitting down, only chair he had was one of those stupid "gaming chairs" [04:01] finally got it [04:01] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@99.139.49.76) joined ##slackware. [04:01] however, we managed to jam pretty good anyway [04:02] i found a libev slackbuild somewhere. i seemed to be installing it incorrectly [04:02] Urchlay: Ugh, that's to bad. Those things could be uncomfortable if you have to sit there any length of time I would think. [04:02] At least you jammed well. :) [04:02] dunnen: Cool. Good luck with it. [04:02] firebird619: yea i found slackbuilds.org pretty quick [04:02] brought bass back this time, will attempt repair. Just going to drill new hole, not try to mess with wood putty or anythign [04:03] dunnen: Ok, and you know about slackbook.org and slackbasics.org as well? [04:03] (it needs new strings too) [04:03] firebird619: not having a central package manger is going to take some getting used to [04:03] dunnen: sure there's a central package manager, it just doesn't manage dependencies [04:03] firebird619: slackbook.org yes, slackbasics.org no but bookmarked [04:03] dunnen: Yes, it will, but over time, you will realize how nice the slackware way of doing things is. [04:04] Urchlay: yea that is what i meant. [04:04] and then realize that it really, imho, is the best way to do things. You learn alot more about your system using slackware. It's Great. [04:04] eventually you'll reach the point where you're making your own packages, which is when you'll go "damn, I'm glad I don't have to mess with ebuilds or spec files..." [04:05] Urchlay: I've just recently learned the basics of making slackbuilds, and I've built my own kernel. It's awesome being able to do that stuff. [04:05] oh, aye [04:06] aceofspa3es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [04:06] I learnt it around 2.6.18 .. but now I don't feel its worth the trouble [04:06] Well, I have to get going, it's 3:05 AM here. Have a good morning/afternoon/evening everyone. [04:06] i just use whatever kernel slackware comes with [04:06] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:06] building kernels can be worth the trouble if you're doing something embedded and/or on a very old/slow machine [04:06] yeah [04:06] exactly [04:07] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) joined ##slackware. [04:07] duryodhan: I built my own due to a project myself and a few other slackware users are working on. [04:07] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-55-52-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [04:07] will admit I've gotten lazy, don't see a need to rebuild kernel on my (fairly) high-end daily-use machines [04:07] ohh k [04:07] and now I can say I have the knowledge to do so. [04:07] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:07] Urchlay: I have the rt kernel now, it's nice. [04:07] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:07] no more skipping when recording? [04:08] Not that I've noticed so far. :) [04:08] exxxcellent (imagine that in a Mr. Burns voice...) [04:08] That guide we're doing is coming along really well. [04:09] hopefully I'll have something to contribute to it soon [04:09] k, i'm imagining mr. burns slowly climbing out of a birthday cake. naked. :P [04:09] antler: ewww [04:09] hahaha smithers' dream [04:10] Urchlay: Yes, that would be great. Just stop by #studios anytime. The guide url is in the topic. Along with url to the slackbuilds we've made so far. [04:10] antler: lol, you are??? [04:10] heh, the one where smithers is dating a girl... he's completely heterosexual, as long as he takes his meds regularly (one pill every 5 minutes) [04:10] Well, now I really do have to get going. Good Night everyone. [04:11] nite, firebird [04:11] neonflux (n=neonflux@75.50.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:11] good night Urchlay. take care. :) [04:11] aceofspa3es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:11] aceofspa3es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [04:11] this sucks, I'm wide awake with headache, staring at a screen will only make it worse, and so will reading a book [04:11] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:11] ...but there's pretty much nothing else to do right now :( [04:12] Urchlay: maybe the ibuprofen will kick in soon. [04:12] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [04:12] if not, if I get desperate, will add alcohol [04:12] heh, good luck with that. [04:12] :) [04:12] rather avoid that though (drank enough last night, body needs break) [04:13] ibuprofen is for wimps. do tylenol 3. [04:13] :D [04:13] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night"). [04:13] ibuprofen is what I actually have though [04:13] that's why adding a few shots is a good idea :P [04:14] only whisky in the house is one of those tiny airline bottles of something crappy [04:14] not in the mood for vodka again, and no way am I drinking tequila [04:14] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.198.162) joined ##slackware. [04:14] hm, there's coconut rum [04:15] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [04:15] mmmmmmmm. tequila. mouth is watering at the thought of tequila, lemons, and salt [04:16] not limes? [04:16] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [04:16] i dislike the bitterness of lime [04:17] I dislike the bitterness of tequila :) [04:17] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:17] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:17] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [04:18] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:18] Urchlay: have you finished that book on alternate histories? [04:18] aceofspa2es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:19] hrrr, which one was I talking about? [04:20] latest thing I've read that counts as an alternate history would be the Watchmen comic... [04:20] i dunno, the one with, e.g., "what if hitler didn't invade poland" [04:21] I've read a *lot* of books like that :) [04:21] er, or was I talking about writing a book? [04:21] (I've been threatening to write a book, or at least some stories, for a while now...) [04:21] hahah me too [04:22] dunnen (n=mike@98.166.14.105) left irc: "leaving" [04:22] had an idea for a silly story about vampires, but it's just a gimmick (no idea what the plot, characters, etc would be) [04:23] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [04:24] the idea is: people used to believe in vampires/werewolves/fairies/whatever, but nobody sees them any more in modern times... because? after the catholic church has been around for a couple thousand years, a significant portion of the water on the planet has been made into holy water at some time or another... [04:24] hahah [04:24] every once in a while someone unearths an ancient tomb with some kind of undead in it, but they don't "live" very long due to the toxic environment [04:25] I guess I'd want to write it as a parody of environmentalism [04:25] bird (n=lee@96.240.45.172) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:26] i was gonna to suggest you centre the last vampire around chris tucker :P [04:26] (eh, and if anyone else sees that in the channel log and thinks it doesn't suck, feel free to use it in your own story, it's open source) [04:26] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:26] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [04:27] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:27] chris tucker = the guy from "rush hour" that isn't jackie chan? [04:27] yeah, but i had the chris tucker of "friday" in mind [04:27] which one's that? gangsta movie? or parody of one? [04:28] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [04:28] hahaha you should watch it [04:29] aceofspa3es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Success [04:29] might do [04:29] just saw the new red dwarf last night [04:30] heh watched 'angel heart' again last night. bizzare movie. [04:30] oh hell yeah [04:31] showed that to somebody a couple months ago [04:31] had forgot just how cool & weird it was [04:32] also had forgot the devil was played by Deniro [04:33] yeah, i had forgotten how good rourke was [04:33] yeah [04:33] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:33] tho I hadn't forgotten how hot lisa bonet was :) [04:34] omg i know [04:34] quite seductive in that role [04:34] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:34] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [04:34] also I think the version I'd seen before was slightly cut/edited for cable TV [04:34] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:35] it wasn't completely neutered, but the sex scene has more sex on the DVD than I remembered from cable :) [04:36] that part when luis cypher(?) ate the egg was pretty creepy, man. hahahah [04:36] yeah [04:36] apparently, there's some rule somewhere that says the devil has to offer his victim a way out [04:37] actually the whole atmosphere was creepy. voodoo shit's pretty creepy, if you buy into it. [04:37] the idea is that the egg was literally rourke's soul. If he'd taken it, he would have had his soul back, free & clear [04:37] voodoo's pretty creepy even if you think it's nonsense [04:37] oh nice i didn't know that [04:37] actually, the devil kinda spelled it out for him, didn't he? [04:37] I didn't know it either, someone told that to me, but it makes sense :) [04:38] yeah, led him along, gave him enough rope... [04:38] l4m4_m4n (n=lama@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [04:38] but he didn't take it because he's "gotta a thing about chickens" [04:38] lol [04:38] echo Hello, world! [04:39] nother dumb or interesting fact: the fortune teller (older lady) was in "Zardoz" (which is another really weird movie) [04:39] -bash: echo: command not found [04:39] :) [04:40] Urchlay: just read about zardoz. interesting plot. [04:40] a killer in a community of immortals [04:40] lol [04:41] I think the idea with Zardoz is that someone wrote a really excellent science fiction story, then handed it to the producer/directory, along with $10 million and a large suitcase full of cocaine and said "make a movie however you want" [04:41] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.198.162) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:42] ah. the story in your head while you're watching the movie is better than the movie? [04:42] watch it sometime, I'm not sure it's *good* exactly, but definitely weird and interesting enough to be worth it [04:42] sometimes [04:43] we rented 'the warriors' (1979). watched it when i was a kid. remember liking it then. might watch it later. [04:43] ah, saw that for the first time last year [04:43] and? [04:43] not bad, but probably not a very realistic picture of gangs, even for 1979 [04:44] i remember it being pretty intense at times (again when i was a kid) [04:44] parts of it reminded me of the beginning of "a clockwork orange" but they took it in a completely different direction [04:44] vatgas (n=val@123.145.42.216) left irc: "Leaving." [04:45] aceofspa2es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [04:46] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:46] speaking about weird, watch 'the machinist', if you haven't. it was pretty good. [04:47] not seen it [04:47] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [04:47] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361862/ [04:48] reading wiki article on it... weird [04:49] has batman from "batman begins"... he wasn't the worst batman ever [04:50] plot sounds almost like something david lynch would do [04:50] (except it makes too much sense for lynch...) [04:50] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [04:50] Urchlay: then you haven't seen lynch's "a straight story" [04:50] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:51] 'a straight story' is quite atypical [04:51] for lynch [04:51] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:51] I keep wanting to like lynch movies, but most of them just sorta confuse me [04:52] "lost highway" being an example [04:52] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [04:52] and "eraserhead", but I was like 15 when I saw that, might make more sense now [04:52] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166896/ [04:52] hahah loved 'lost highway' [04:52] then there's lynch's Dune movie, which didn't make sense to anyone who hadn't read the book [04:53] Urchlay: try watching his mini series "rabbits" [04:53] some weird, freaky shit [04:53] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [04:53] hm, "a straight story" plot summary makes it sound boring and completely unlynchlike [04:53] yep [04:54] apparently Dune ranks right up there with Battlefield Earth for "worst high-budget science fiction film" [04:54] (I didn't think it was *that* bad) [04:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qWIlgemp9k [04:55] first episode of 'rabbits' [04:55] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [04:56] stillborn (n=stillbor@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff71c100-46.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:58] cool [04:58] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn6.91-127-118.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [04:59] downloading, not watching while it downloads though (aforementioned headache) [04:59] (ibuprofen seems to be helping a bit though) [05:00] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [05:00] the last two batmans, as you probably already know, were done by christopher nolan, who also did 'memento' and a remake of 'insomnia' [05:00] and the less popular 'the following' [05:01] "memento" was pretty cool [05:01] not seen the other 2 [05:02] al pacino was in nolan's version of 'insomnia' [05:02] ah [05:02] there's another crazy guy who played the devil well [05:02] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:02] did christopher walken ever play the devil? he'd make a good one [05:03] rofl [05:03] oh man totally [05:03] aceofspa2es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:03] the guy face scares the shit out of me [05:04] yeah, he's creepy... [05:05] "devil's advocate" was good enough that I was able to ignore keanu (usually that guy gets on my nerves) [05:05] lol "i know exactly what you mean" --morpheus [05:06] one of these days I have to watch the Matrix again, the first one anyway [05:06] you've seen 'jacob's ladder'? speaking about creepy [05:06] saw it in theater, didn't see what was that great about it [05:06] confrey (n=dario@94.162.174.205) joined ##slackware. [05:06] jacob's ladder I saw a long damn time ago and barely rememebr [05:06] ah [05:07] hi everybody [05:07] hi somebody [05:07] hm, maybe watch it tomorrow, I have /export/public/tv_shows/movies/jacobs_ladder.avi apparently and didn't know it :) [05:08] (note to self: movies doesn't belong inside tv_shows...) [05:08] saw it in theater, didn't see what was that great <--- that was me talking about the matrix, not jacobs ladder [05:09] oh, have you seen 'jacob's ladder'? [05:10] oh nm [05:12] I've a problem while compiling fglrx module for my toshiba; I think something is missing, because time ago I compiled it... I have pasted fglrx-install.log here : http://pastebin.com/m390e9223 [05:13] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:14] confrey: check that the version of fglrx you're trying to install, actually supports the version of the kernel you have [05:15] Urchlay, well, I have four version of fglrx, I can't install anyone, time ago I remember one of them worked, but now I can install anyone [05:15] I've found that my old fglrx driver I used on slackware 10.x couldn't just be recompiled to work on 12.x, I needed new drivers [05:15] (but... the new drivers have dropped support for my old card!) [05:15] so I think perhaps something needed is missing [05:16] well, from that paste, it looks like you have gcc and the kernel source [05:16] Urchlay, some weeks ago I had the same toshiba and the same fglrx working [05:17] l4m4_m4n (n=lama@87.248.164.65) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:17] er, actually, can you look inside lib/modules/2.6.27.7-smp/build and see if it's really got the kernel source? [05:17] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host198-74-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:18] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: "Leaving" [05:19] (it should be a symlink to /usr/src/linux-2.6.27.7, and in there you should see 30-odd files and directories) [05:21] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@89-212-36-81.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [05:21] other thing to check: make sure the /usr/src/linux-2.6.27.7 exists, and matches your running kernel ("cd /usr/src/linux-2.6.27.7; zcat /proc/config.gz > .config ; make prepare" ought to fix that, if it needs fixing) [05:23] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:23] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:24] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:25] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@89-212-36-81.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:25] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@89-212-36-81.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [05:27] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[07:20] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: Client Quit [07:22] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82.42.231.37) joined ##slackware. [07:24] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [07:24] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:25] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.18.220) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:25] paul424 (n=chatzill@156.17.165.242) joined ##slackware. [07:26] Hi does anyone use the ati catalyst drivers ? [07:28] yes [07:28] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@69.79.74.201) left irc: "Saliendo" [07:28] ok what kernel version you have and what cat version :"? [07:29] 2.6.27.7-smp 8.12 [07:30] how did you compiled the kernel ? [07:30] rg3 (n=deckard@90.168.202.181) joined ##slackware. [07:30] I mean it;'s not a native slackware kernel ? [07:30] yes, its the generic kernel [07:31] of witch version ? [07:31] ... [07:32] s/witch/which [07:32] what does the smp ending mean ? [07:33] symmetric multi-processing [07:33] it's the stock 12.2 kernel [07:34] I always get a black screen when starting X with cat 8.12 installed [07:34] i use fglrx driver here [07:35] stillbor2: Me too [07:35] and all good [07:37] did it install ok? [07:37] yeap .... [07:38] hmm the /boot/vmlinuz is a link right ? [07:38] yes [07:39] symlink [07:39] strange that every guide how to install the ati cat says something diffrent about configuring the kernel, they advise diffrent options to be disablled / enabled but here at least are people who work with the gerneric kernle ? right ? [07:40] anyone know why there is no config.sys in /etc/init.d on my slackware 12 install? [07:40] i tried yum install config.sys but it said no [07:40] what is the most annoying that after every crush the system have to e2fsck all the drives which takes a long time [07:41] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [07:41] int203: you tried ... what??? [07:41] slackware does not use /etc/init.d [07:41] XGizzmo_: goodmorning. :) [07:41] what's xorg error after black screen [07:41] It is there for 3rd party stuff [07:41] morn in [07:41] int203: slackware also does not come with yum. [07:42] would i find config.sys in /etc/rc.d? [07:42] no [07:42] int203: *no* [07:42] i need to pass some custom parameters to himem.sys for our cluster [07:42] stillbor2: xorg error ? hmm you mean the /var/logs/xorg.0.log [07:42] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [07:42] its a production enviornment and my ass is on the line if i dont get this taken care of before monday AM [07:43] yep [07:43] int203: then you better find someone that knows what they are doing. [07:43] s/you/they/ ? ;) [07:43] does the slackware team offer support contracts? [07:43] vatgas (n=val@123.145.78.27) joined ##slackware. [07:44] also [07:44] ubuntu does ;) [07:44] unrelated [07:44] stillbor2: I get something like (EE) fglrx(0): XMM failed to open CMMQS connection.... [07:44] slackware offers users the ability to be self reliant :D [07:44] i try to change my directory to C:\fileserv [07:44] however [07:45] cd: C:fileserv: No such file or directory [07:45] wtf? [07:45] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [07:46] amm I mean the modules system and the kernels are independent ? how does each kernel knows which modules owns and which to load at the startups ? [07:46] paul424: ls /lib/modules brah [07:47] paul424: C:\autoexec.bat also takes care of that stuff at boot [07:47] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [07:47] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:48] yeap ... hmm almost it works but notice that the directories does not contain whether it is for huge, generic kernel ... only it version, strange isn't it ? [07:48] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:49] anyway it should be written witch huge letters that those drivers does not work out of the box on every linux site ... i just googled for the ati linux driver and got the amd home page catalyst drivers so Ithought it was ok ...now I see how naive I was [07:49] uhm. uname -r [07:49] paul424: modules have a magic version [07:50] paul424: modinfo [07:50] 8.11 works on stock 12.2 kernel [07:50] otherwise you have to recompile kernel [07:52] paul424: some modules are autoloaded by the kernel, some by udev, some by /etc/rc.d/rc.modules [07:52] Hi ya fred [07:53] oh ok anyway what does the /sbin/udevtriger -retry-failed at the startup it takes a several seconds to load ? [07:53] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [07:53] retries everything that udev previously tried to do that failed :p [07:53] it replays all the udev messages [07:53] udev ? [07:54] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:54] udev creates device entries in /dev [07:54] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [07:55] and a fwe other things [07:55] few [07:56] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@89-212-36-81.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:00] ok [08:00] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@89-212-36-81.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [08:00] hmm is the fglrx module loaded by kernel or by X11 ? the lsmod does not show it to be present in init 3 [08:04] paul424: before starting X, make sure the module is loaded 'lsmod | grep fglrx' if not, load the module 'modprobe fglrx' [08:05] did u run aticonfig --initial after install [08:06] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [08:06] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [08:06] Nick change: kethry_ -> kethry [08:08] aticonfig --inital is bad cause it just trashes the xorg.conf with stupid sections which arent't even used ... I know what to do in xorg.conf [08:08] doesn't trash anything here o0 [08:09] hmm how can I prevent the X11 from totally crashing when I do startx ... i mean i cannot type antying no ctr-c or changing console ..... maybe there is program i can run as a root that it can return the control ..... [08:11] ctrl+alt+F* [08:11] also how do I quit the annoyning fsck check after crash .. [08:12] diff filesystem [08:12] or enable magic sysrq key [08:13] stillbor2: ok ok slower ... I m not a slackware wiz [08:13] nobody here is [08:14] stillbor2: what is diff filesystem ? [08:14] ext*,reiserFS,XFS etc :P [08:15] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.218.132) joined ##slackware. [08:16] Imean the enable magic sysrq key is not enabled at default generic version ? 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[08:23] there's good explanation in wikipedia [08:24] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:24] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:24] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:27] it is enabled by default [08:28] and in general to check your current config .. zcat /proc/config.gz | grep 'MAGIC' [08:29] ok and after the slackware installation which kernel is linked as vmlinuz ? the last in alpabetical order right ? [08:29] yes, should be the huge-smp one [08:29] hmm does the kernel size faffectst anything ? [08:30] ls -la /boot [08:31] yeah I see that .... hmm does lilo can start any kernel from it;s command line if it is in the /boot ? [08:31] no. [08:32] ok thanks [08:32] stillborn (n=stillbor@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff71c100-46.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. 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[09:10] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:10] anyone else having this prob [09:11] my PC shuts itself down when i execute qt slackbuild [09:12] hmm not heard of that one. [09:12] ttyX: directly as soon as you execute it? [09:12] it happens with a couple of apps only [09:12] no in between compiling [09:13] maybe it's a heating problem [09:13] a clean shutdown or crash? [09:13] clean shutdown [09:13] it halts the system [09:13] am using slackware-current btw [09:14] why would you compile QT on -current? [09:14] Stutteringmatt (n=mathias@h14n1c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) left irc: "leaving" [09:14] coz i need it [09:14] for smplayer [09:14] wouldn't installing QT be a lot simpler? [09:15] hey what is the safest mode for the mouse to work , i mean whyere to mount the mouse in the xorg.conf no to crash kde ? [09:15] paul343: set protocol to auto [09:15] ok [09:16] ttyX: (a) why not install qt from packages? (b) checked it's not overheating? [09:16] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [09:16] qt4 in slack repo is stripped down [09:16] I assume only runtime libs are there [09:17] I need dev-libs for compiling smplayer [09:17] there's no such thing as dev-libs in slackware. [09:17] I know [09:17] they're all bundled together [09:17] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:17] ok and mount in the /dev/input/mice ? [09:18] ttyX: so what do you assume is missing ? [09:18] it's documentation, debug symbols, and qt internal headers [09:18] I can compile smplayer against the qt4 in Slackware no problem. [09:18] its not the vanilla qt4 [09:18] Yes, it is. [09:18] well, it's qt-copy [09:18] it's qt 4.5-with-some-bugfixes [09:18] is it? [09:19] yes. [09:19] Unlike $OTHERDISTRO, Slackware doesn't mess with things that don't need messed with. [09:19] You won't find a more vanilla distro out there. [09:19] have you actually tried building smplayer against slackware's qt package, or just assumed it doesn't work? [09:19] Action: BP{k} is gonna guess the latter. [09:20] I tried smplayer package [09:20] worked fine [09:20] but its an old version [09:20] package from where? [09:20] slacky.eu [09:20] zenwalk [09:20] both [09:20] ttyX: you've not answered my question. [09:21] not compiled [09:21] You want http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/smplayer/ [09:21] and you want to answer fred's question. [09:25] xiws (n=xiws13@222.214.196.144) joined ##slackware. [09:30] paul343 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:30] ttyX (n=Haider@115.108.13.72) left ##slackware. [09:30] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [09:30] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:31] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.134.47) joined ##slackware. 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[11:11] the .inputrc lines are in the form: [11:11] "\e[18~": page-up [11:11] except i'm not sure if "page-up" and "page-down" are the right names for it [11:11] omg [11:12] "i know you're wrong, but i don't know" [11:12] where's the beer :D [11:13] rosemayfears, cat /proc/swaps or swapon -s [11:13] greetings from northern Canada:) [11:13] or just $ top [11:13] warm greetings to you [11:13] ty [11:13] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-25-60.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [11:13] :) [11:14] ;) [11:15] hitest, is Greenland really melting fast? [11:15] you are close right [11:15] the antarctic is freezing (gaining ice) [11:15] hey when did that happen! [11:15] maybe coz od winter [11:15] *of [11:15] no, it's always winter there. [11:16] it was melting for the last decades, and now the trend is reversing. [11:16] but still affected by the closeness of Earth to sun right [11:16] slightly. [11:16] however, they compared the average ice depth. [11:16] where did you read about the reversal? [11:16] I can dig out the article. [11:17] just the site wil do [11:17] xiws (n=xiws13@218.89.5.212) left irc: Client Quit [11:17] hba (n=hba@189.188.153.36) joined ##slackware. [11:17] if you remember [11:18] troopr: I'm fairly close to Alaska, but, not that close to Greenland [11:18] ok [11:18] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-173-116.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [11:18] our weather is similar to Vancouver BC, just a bit cooler and wetter [11:19] I live in Prince Rupert, BC, a small community with a new container port [11:19] http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0520-08.htm [11:21] thanks fo rthe link thumbs interesting locality hitest [11:21] its not really the closeness of Earth to Sun that matters [11:21] hba (n=hba@189.188.153.36) left irc: Client Quit [11:22] thats how we have the seasons right. I know that there is a 23 degree tilt in Earth's axis wrt the orbit [11:23] no, seasons are not caused by distance but by the chaging tilt, that changes the angle the sunlight hits earth [11:24] troopr: well yes. There is still an increase in temperature, but nature proves to be more resilient than we thought she would be [11:24] Jsonic (n=jsonic@189.63.215.52) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:24] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [11:24] troopr: that doesn't mean we cannot be careful, and respect her. But we also must place faith in her. [11:26] sureeee [11:26] well, anyway, if we don't trigger another ice age that is good enough [11:29] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:30] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:30] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:31] TiberiusXXIXV (n=Tiberius@41.208.11.160) joined ##slackware. [11:31] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [11:32] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:33] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:33] we might accelerate it, but more and more I am starting to believe that our impact is not as draconian as some people would want to make you thin [11:33] zlyzir (n=mike@74.77.18.63) joined ##slackware. [11:33] Action: slackytude shrugs [11:34] Action: troopr maybe [11:34] food production has gone worldwide for some years now [11:34] Arno[Slack] (i=100@81.57.177.108) joined ##slackware. [11:34] gone down [11:34] nothing to drastic will happen in our life time, so who cares? :P [11:34] accelerate ? [11:34] slackytude: yes, the temperature rise wll do that. [11:34] slackytude: the crops can't tolerate those variations [11:35] TiberiusXXIXV: yes, accelerate [11:35] thumbs, in a sense, yes. its more changing weather pattern due to increase in temp, but, yeah [11:35] food supplies are seriously hit here in my country, India [11:35] right [11:35] due to climate change [11:35] same eveywhere, for the last 5 years, or so [11:36] which is the main problem [11:36] noting is constant [11:36] nothing [11:36] change must happen [11:36] really sucks because the farmers are committing suicide since they are too poor [11:36] if we're careful enough, the cycle might come back [11:36] it is very serious [11:36] maybe, but Id say thats unlikely [11:37] agreed [11:37] its more a question of adapting [11:37] the problem is that for every 10 careful people, there are 5 wasteful other people [11:37] like we do best [11:37] a human is certainly able to adapt itself, our systems are not [11:37] it usually takes breakage [11:37] vatgas (n=val@123.145.78.27) left irc: "Leaving." [11:38] not that Im an expert or anything, just, you know, my opinion [11:38] thumbs: you really our ratio is that good? 0_o [11:38] hackedhead: or that bad, depending on the point of view. [11:39] .. i'd guess more like 10:1 against careful people [11:39] hackedhead: I surely hope not. [11:39] =\ [11:40] well, i live in a college town, and lots of people with daddy's money dont care. [11:40] so my perception may be a bit skewed. [11:40] well college students are still younfg [11:40] yeah [11:40] wait until they reach 18 [11:40] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:40] once they go to university, they might change [11:40] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:40] thumbs: most of them are 18 [11:40] troopr, If I remeber correctly, india was one with the biggest problems together with china. [11:40] mmm i think the question is do we really want to be here in 50 years or sooner [11:41] hackedhead: you have to leave college once you reach 18. [11:41] slackytude, We are the problem? [11:41] zlyzir (n=mike@74.77.18.63) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:41] In 50 years I'll give a party to the worms [11:41] troopr, heh, no, food production [11:41] likewise but definately i know that i would not want to be here [11:41] slackytude, sure. [11:41] thumbs: in the US, college _starts_ at 18. college and uni are the same thing, essentially. [11:42] dam big show won [11:42] hackedhead: really? [11:42] !!! [11:42] slackytude, We have a billion mouths to feed on soil less than a third of US [11:42] hackedhead: that's messed up. [11:42] thumbs: *shrug* [11:42] troopr, aye [11:42] slackytude, population is our main issue [11:42] yup Cena just bit the dust ! [11:42] me marvels at the widespread naming differences in eduation systems.... [11:42] hackedhead: here, college is a prerequisite to university. You go to college at 16, exit at 18. [11:43] troopr, well, if food production wont go up, that problem solves itsel [11:43] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.112.228.221) joined ##slackware. [11:43] slackytude, and unlike in the US, people here are not united in terms of doing something about it [11:43] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:43] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [11:43] the problem is that there are not enough natural disasters [11:43] troopr, people in the US united? thats news to me [11:43] Fried_Bob (n=Fried@c-98-233-149-9.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:43] slackytude, when you are talking of numbers, you are forgetting that these are humans. [11:44] rosemayfears (n=Rose@222.127.63.129) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:44] troopr, I realise that, Im just cynical. sorry if thats offends you [11:44] slackytude, you can all come to chat channels and discuss this. you are all educated. have access to internet etc [11:44] thumbs: ah. and uni lasts how long? here you're in public education (totally govt funded for taxpayers) til 18, then college/uni for four years at your option (most go) but you pay your way [11:44] It'll take care of the obesity problem, I guess [11:44] hackedhead: university ranges from 4 years to 5 years [11:44] troopr, that does sound goof in theory. [11:44] good [11:44] slackytude, not offended. but when you are in the middle of suffering all around, the perspective is different [11:45] slackytude, believe me it matters. i lived in US for 3 years [11:45] I can see that [11:45] i haev seen it [11:45] sorry, what can I say? [11:46] slackytude, in NY, you have a radio station which was shouting out for people to not vote for Bush re-election at the top of its voice [11:46] slackytude, here, we have no such thing [11:46] only the youth care [11:46] rest are worried about only their personal issues [11:46] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-c1ec4b5a7ee9307a) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:47] arny (n=arny@92.85.122.6) joined ##slackware. [11:48] Im guessing they cared as well, when their were young. before they realized that caring wont help [11:48] i guess everywhere in the world , the youth are the ones most scared [11:48] correct [11:48] no, concerned. [11:49] anyway, lets keep for faith in humanity. when crisis comes, we are all one. [11:49] atleast thats what I believe [11:49] that might be so [11:50] people dont start arguing when resources are scare [11:50] i'm more worried that the crisis is sneaking up on us, and not enough are paying attention [11:50] thats correct [11:50] that is an option. but there is nothing that would change that [11:51] we have actually many a crisis upon us simultaneously- population+climate+peak oil [11:51] well, being a defeatist about it surely won't... =\ [11:51] heh [11:52] sadly there are a lot of people with a similar view [11:52] myself somewhat included [11:52] on a plus side, it looks like the CCD of the bees lookes almost solved [11:52] ccd? [11:53] colony collapse disorder [11:53] oh [11:53] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_Collapse_Disorder [11:53] ltos and lots of bees just up and die [11:53] good times to be a bee! [11:53] huge colonies at once [11:53] that was something that could have turned out to be a huge frickin deal and no one really noticed anything [11:53] yeah [11:54] like major plant life impacts. [11:54] like 30% of all bee populations just vanish per years [11:54] no more fruits to get, in plain terms [11:54] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_Collapse_Disorder [11:55] more freaky things are happening too [11:55] sure. Sharks are showing up in ganges! [11:55] lol [11:56] it is a river btw [11:56] ocra can't hunt enough seals, so started hunting sea otters on the west coast -> huge otter population drop -> huge urchin population boom --> kelp forests go bye bye --> major ecological system trauma [11:56] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [11:56] b/c kelp accoutn for a ridiculously high amount of oxygenation of the water in those ecosystems [11:57] one could start a news channel just handle the flood of natural and environmental bad news [11:57] heh, [11:57] yeah [11:58] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host96-72-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:59] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [11:59] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:59] razec_ (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:00] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:00] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.223.88) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:00] frullet (n=Bob@124-168-168-79.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [12:00] FriedBob (n=Fried@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:01] TiberiusXXIXV (n=Tiberius@41.208.11.160) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:02] Action: slackytude jumpes in his SUV, drives to McDonalds and throws the garbage out of his window [12:02] me worry? [12:03] lf4 (n=lf4@71.199.22.31) joined ##slackware. [12:03] i have uncommented the acpi-cpufreq line in rc.modules [12:03] still the module doesn't get loaded at boot time [12:03] why ? [12:04] http://www.sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2009-04-19.gif [12:04] LnxSlck, was it the right file? [12:04] jdee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:04] slackytude, yes [12:05] john_dee (n=id@217.118.90.201) left irc: "link closed" [12:05] Nick change: jdee -> john_dee [12:05] LnxSlck, is it +x ? [12:05] slackytude, let me check [12:06] this is the line: /sbin/modprobe acpi-cpufreq [12:06] give the output of ls -l /etc/rc.d/rc.modules [12:06] where can i check that file [12:06] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 2009-03-06 22:52 /etc/rc.d/rc.modules -> rc.modules-2.6.27.7-smp [12:07] you run 2.6.27.7? now do a ls -l of /etc/rc.d/rc.modules-2.6.27.7-smp [12:07] no [12:07] i run 2.6.29.1 [12:07] there you are then [12:07] lol [12:07] why isn't the modules updated? [12:07] damn [12:08] slackytude: Does that mean the rc.modules is symlinked to the wrong file? [12:08] lf4, i guess so [12:09] slackytude, can i just update the link to the correct modules? [12:09] sure [12:09] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:09] which file did you update? just rc.modules or rc.modules-2.6.29.1 ? [12:09] rc.modules [12:09] hrm [12:09] that's why it wasn't updated [12:10] LnxSlck: then you updated the 2.6.27.7 file [12:10] yeap [12:10] yeah, but rc.modules gets called [12:10] i didn't checked this bad link [12:10] now everything is correct [12:10] i hope :S [12:10] slackytude: I know thats what I thought was odd. [12:11] rc.modules was pointing to an older rc.modules. version [12:11] i didn't realized that until now [12:11] Im not sure if that is a problem tho [12:11] LnxSlck: did you compile the new kernel yourself? [12:11] lf4, no [12:12] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82.42.231.37) joined ##slackware. [12:12] lf4, through slackpkg [12:12] all rc.modules does is just calling modprobe [12:12] yep [12:13] but that command works when you do it in a sehll? [12:13] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-75-43-76-187.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:13] yes it does [12:13] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-f902aec1744af324) joined ##slackware. [12:14] have we checked yet if that files is executable= [12:14] yes it is [12:14] arny (n=arny@92.85.122.6) left irc: "Leaving" [12:14] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 2009-04-19 17:09 rc.modules -> rc.modules-2.6.29.1-smp [12:14] and is rc.modules-2.6.29.1-smp excutable? [12:14] |newbie| (n=fabio@host96-72-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:14] yes [12:14] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 31891 2009-04-03 07:56 rc.modules-2.6.29.1-smp [12:15] execute it and check dmesg [12:15] Module dependencies up to date (no new kernel modules found). [12:16] nothing wrong in dmesg [12:16] i'll better do a reboot [12:16] to see if the module gets loaded [12:16] you could rmod the module [12:16] rmmod [12:16] and excute the file [12:17] yep [12:17] yep.. everything is fine now [12:17] boo yaah [12:17] :) [12:18] it's because of the battery plugin thing in kde [12:18] I know [12:18] without that module i don't see the cpu speed [12:18] saw you talking aboot it yesterday [12:18] yep [12:18] ;) [12:20] still not sure what got changed tho [12:20] it should have worked even with rc.modules linked to 2.6.whatever [12:20] might be 2.6.whatever wasnt executable [12:21] they all are executable [12:21] Action: slackytude shrugs [12:21] gremlins then [12:21] but if i run 2.6.29 shouldn't it load the 2.6.29 modules? [12:21] yht (n=yht@114.121.23.172) joined ##slackware. [12:21] i was runing 2.6.9 and loading 2.6.27 modules :S [12:22] 2.6.29 [12:22] LnxSlck, no, the modules files just does a uname -r [12:22] it will load from the actual kernel when you call it [12:22] version number isnt hardcoded in them [12:23] those files are there if you want to load different stuff depending on kernel [12:23] or you could hardware profiles, by symlink rc.modules rc.load-acpi or rc.no-load-acpi [12:23] ok [12:24] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [12:28] nvision (n=nvision@83.221.231.3) joined ##slackware. [12:28] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82.42.231.37) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:29] hi there which application allows me to display and capture data from my webcam [12:29] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82.42.231.37) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:29] it works. I tested it with skype. [12:30] bbq time [12:31] kinesis (n=k@slim.gomylocal.com) joined ##slackware. [12:31] Hey guys, this is methoxy from yesterday [12:32] Question, what initrd.img do i use with usbboot.img ? [12:32] when making setup from USB key [12:32] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:33] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: [12:33] neonflux_^ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:34] Nick change: neonflux_^ -> neonflux [12:35] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@68.127.165.237) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:40] nvm i am redoing it using isolinux/ [12:40] whatever [12:41] is slackware i686 optimized [12:42] nevermind found that [12:45] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:46] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:46] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:51] ttyX (i=1000@115.108.13.72) joined ##slackware. [12:54] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [12:54] can someone tell me why do i get qmake-qt4: command not found with smplayer sb [12:55] How do I do system updates on Slackware? [12:55] with slackpkg [12:55] kleanchap_: slackpkg would be a good choice [12:55] ttyX: you installed QT4? [12:55] yes [12:55] the slackware package [12:55] present in current [12:55] BP{k}: Is it like apt-get or so on Debian? [12:55] did you log out and back in, after installing it. [12:56] DeeeeP: Thnx [12:56] I rebooted [12:56] BP{k}: Thnx [12:57] I was getting the same error with vanilla qt4-4.5.0 [12:57] nvision (n=nvision@83.221.231.3) left irc: "Leaving" [12:57] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [12:57] but if i install a package it works fine [12:57] it just wouldn't compile [12:58] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [12:58] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [12:58] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [13:00] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:02] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-119-51.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:26] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-99-139-49-76.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:26] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slackytude [13:28] ttyX (i=1000@115.108.13.72) joined ##slackware. [13:29] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:30] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:31] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:31] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:32] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:32] neonflux_^ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:34] habtool (n=habtool@86-45-153-76-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [13:37] i got it to work with unetbootin!!!! [13:37] WOOT [13:37] slackware linux 12.2 on the lenovo ideapad s10 [13:38] \o/ [13:38] kinesis: congratulations. :) [13:38] instlal over usb [13:38] install* [13:38] kinesis, what was your solution? [13:39] ttyX (i=1000@115.108.13.72) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:39] that's good to hear, I've never had much luck with unetbootin [13:39] ttyX (i=1000@115.108.13.72) joined ##slackware. [13:40] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:41] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:41] kinesis: congrats! :))) [13:41] Nick change: cd -> sigmonsez [13:41] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:42] uhh [13:42] well [13:42] First of all the DVD iso i had [13:42] wasnt even fully downloaded [13:42] heh [13:42] so umm i selected the ISO and also put the usbboot.img in [13:43] i think you dont even hacve to put the usbboot.img in it does it automaitcally though [13:43] brb eating [13:43] LnxSlck_ (i=1000@89.214.6.98) joined ##slackware. [13:44] Action: slackytude goes back to BBQ [13:45] when i open kde autentication manager it's on read only mode [13:45] how to put it writable [13:45] so i can change settings? 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I have downloaded the tar ball but don't know if I should do a pkginstall or what. There is no readme file. [14:21] pirving (n=john@cpe-72-224-172-94.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:21] kleanchap: you can find a slackbuild for it ast slackbuilds.org [14:22] Hmmm. [14:22] twolf; Thnx! I will start that now. [14:22] all roads lead to slackbuilds [14:22] hi how to read the Xorg.conf file ? which screen I do use here : I am completly confussed : http://paste.linuxassist.net/214437 [14:25] It has been over a year with Slackbuild. What is the process of building frostwire from here on? [14:26] kleanchap, go to sbopkg.org [14:26] installpkg sbopkg and use thta [14:26] otherwise slackbuilds has a nice howto site [14:26] slackytude: Hey, how's it going? [14:27] heya firebird619. doing fine, just had a BBQ [14:27] slackytude: Thnx! [14:27] firebird619, how are you doingß [14:27] kleanchap: http://www.slackbuilds.org/howto [14:27] paul424, DefaultDepth 16 change that to 24 and it'll use the 24 depth's modes [14:27] Nick change: Fried_Bob -> FriedBob [14:27] slackytude: Doing great. Thank you. [14:27] ^-^ [14:27] need to do stuff for uni tomorrow [14:28] ohh god just tell me which screen it uses plus how to get know that ? [14:28] slackytude: It's 50 F out right now. It's a really nice day again today. [14:28] and its 20:07 already [14:28] slackytude: must be nice. you're always bbq'ing :) [14:28] firebird619, yeah, we had a nice day as well [14:28] antler, yeah ^-^ [14:28] paul424: you would use that screen [14:29] paul424, so you added a whole new section at the bottom ? hmmm just have something configure it for you [14:30] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:30] which one there are two ..... [14:30] i hate those long xorg.conf files, i usually delete it and make a clean one without all the comments [14:30] paul424: that one [14:30] yes what's wrong with this new sectins [14:31] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-25-60.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [14:32] slackytude: what did you bbq? [14:32] l4m4_m4n (n=lama@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [14:32] antler, fish, potatoes, some vegetables [14:32] no steak this time :| [14:32] echo Hello, world! [14:32] oh man bbq fish is lovely :D [14:32] i had steak fajitas [14:32] yeah ^-^ a steak would have been good aswell, tho [14:33] Ilie (i=1000@93.112.69.40) joined ##slackware. [14:34] l4m4_m4n: Hello, how are you? [14:34] ok thanks bye [14:34] Action: antler had peking duck, sweet n' sour ribs, fried squid, and white rice [14:34] paul424 (n=chatzill@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Client Quit [14:34] antler, hmm tasty [14:34] firebird619: I am very, very good :) ! You? [14:34] man paul424 is working on this for last 3 or 4 days now [14:34] l4m4_m4n: I am great, thank you. [14:35] firebird619: By the way, I like your nick name. [14:35] :) [14:35] l4m4_m4n: :) Thanks. [14:35] slackytude: well it seems that he's using the ati binary. [14:35] yeah [14:35] shouldn't be a problem with aticonfig --initial [14:36] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:36] Action: slackytude shrugs [14:36] error_de1eloper_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:37] all I know is he keeps asking questions [14:37] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:39] lhiz (n=lhiz@78.32.182.59) joined ##slackware. [14:39] lhiz (n=lhiz@78.32.182.59) left irc: Client Quit [14:40] http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.9.0/doc/html/xorg.conf.5.html A massive xorg.conf manual page :) [14:42] ewww. verbose, convoluted manual pages.... [14:42] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg some more good reading [14:42] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-25-60.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:42] comes in 10 languages :) [14:43] ahhh he parted the channel, figures [14:44] paul424 (n=chatzill@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:44] he'll be back soon [14:44] eh [14:44] magic ^-^ [14:44] lol [14:44] lol [14:45] paul424, here are two pages with lots of information on your problems: http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.9.0/doc/html/xorg.conf.5.html http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg [14:47] heh what exactly are the problems :P [14:47] heh [14:47] I cant wait to instlal slack on my netbook but i have to use mmy cell phone so [14:47] i know its ognna take forever [14:47] kinesis, I thought you were done [14:47] no i got the setup to run tho [14:48] come to realize i should have just made a partition containing the slackware files [14:48] can i tell slackware setup to use G:\slackware-12.2-dvd\ on my ntfs drive [14:48] you're using your cell phone as an internet gateway? [14:48] no [14:48] im using my cell phone's 8gb microsd card [14:48] you can use it as a hard drive [14:48] bluetooth [14:48] and im booting the netbook off it [14:48] its a htc touch pro [14:48] kinesis, it can use a samba share [14:48] but it cant mount NTFS and install off that , right? [14:49] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-10-163.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:49] i know the boot message says that it has NTFS in the kernel [14:49] Im not sure [14:49] reading should work [14:49] so yeah [14:49] i dont wann ahve to have my cell phone tied to the netbook all day i have to leave lol [14:50] does anyone know how to get an canon powershot a480 digital camera to open digicam when connected to kde4? [14:50] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:50] it works on kde3 [14:50] heh, udev rule :P [14:51] whgich kernel should i use? defaul;t or huge.s [14:51] bah these typos [14:51] isn't there anything default like in kde3 [14:51] nille_, I was joking. I dont use kde. consider #kde [14:51] im gonna be using slackware current with KDE4 [14:51] nille_: i just use gphoto2 --get-all-files [14:51] slackerpete (n=slackerp@86.130.134.7) joined ##slackware. [14:51] but i remember trying Kubuntu and it had kde 4.. i thought it was too bloaty [14:51] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:52] i might stick with something primitive & simplistic like fluxbox or this new one called OpenBox [14:52] openbox? new? [14:52] new as in my friend just told me about it [14:52] new to me [14:52] well if i open digikam then i see the camera and i can copy my pics, but when i plug it into me kde3 box it asks me if i want to open it with digikam [14:52] right [14:52] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422709.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:53] kinesis, kde 4 should perform well on your netbook [14:53] Hey if im creating a linux partition for slackware out of 35gigs of unallocated space, do i do it as (e)xtended or (p)rimary [14:53] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:53] kinesis, considering your troubles with slack so far, Id advise against -current, tho [14:53] I actually have no troubles [14:53] i will razor edge this thing [14:53] custom boot logo, framebuffer console at full res [14:54] I see [14:54] Just never did USB install before [14:54] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:54] Ive used slackware since i was 15 [14:54] i am 26 now [14:54] dont really need current for that now [14:54] dont really need current for that tho [14:54] Dont need -current for KDE4? [14:54] so is this a primary partition or extended? [14:54] you do [14:55] partition type doesnt matter [14:55] nille_: i dont use digikam, you might try gtkam as an alternative if you want to view what you have on the camera without having to upload all of them to your PC [14:55] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:55] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [14:55] do i need a swap partition [14:55] with 2gb of ram [14:55] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:56] if you want to hibernate [14:56] oh ok lol [14:56] how big should it be? sizeof ram? [14:56] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:56] 2 Gigs should be a good size :) [14:56] sizeof ram and a bit [14:56] ok so +2048M [14:57] Pig_Pen i can do that with digikam but i want digikam to start and show the camera when i plug it in [14:57] damn how many gigs is 31455270 [14:57] blocks [14:57] depends on block size ^-^ [14:57] seems like 1024 [14:58] 1kb blocks perhaps [14:58] i set it up for my father and he would never find the program him self [14:58] have you asked #kde ? [14:59] troopr (n=Unknown@210.211.128.220) left irc: "Leaving" [14:59] kde's menu is just as easy to use as ms-window's menu [15:00] is he visually impared? [15:00] o old [15:00] crazyhors (n=dirk@75.159.68.169) joined ##slackware. [15:00] no hes old [15:00] l4m4_m4n (n=lama@87.248.164.65) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:01] he can't use windows so bad example [15:01] i know how that is, my mother is 78 years old and i got her fixed up with slackware, i just put icons on KDE's desktop for her favorite apps [15:01] 30718MB is 30 gigs right [15:01] ok [15:01] then you get my problem [15:02] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:02] so +28670M [15:02] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [15:02] well i will ask in #digikam [15:02] for my primary, then my extended swap will have +2048M [15:02] or remaining space [15:02] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [15:02] dude thats funny [15:02] yeah, somewhat, my mom is a tough old lady and stubborn as a mule [15:02] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:02] slackware is a family tradition now [15:02] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:02] handed down from generation to generation [15:03] my father helped me install slackware the 1st time [15:03] when iw as just 15 years old [15:03] me mother uses slackware and fluxbox [15:03] with a very small right click menu [15:03] and most of the stuff in bottom bar anyway [15:03] lol, my mom would be a lost puppy without desktop icons & a menu [15:04] a menu with big fonts and icons [15:04] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.204.226) joined ##slackware. [15:04] my father keeps talking about how good DOS was [15:05] heh [15:05] that says everything [15:05] lol dos [15:05] wow used slackware from 15 to 26 and you're asking such questions. :P [15:05] Action: slackytude nods [15:05] getting older is no fun [15:06] kinesis: you've been using slack for eleven years, and are asking about swap? [15:07] some things i try to teach my mom she wont remember, i shown her step by step how to copy & paste text and she cant retain that info, and i shown her many times [15:07] well use recordmydesktop and make instructions for her [15:08] nille_: if he likes dos, he should love bash, just set him up with a slackware install with X or xapps :D [15:08] and have her start those with a shell command ^-^ [15:08] *without* x or xapps [15:08] well he loves mc [15:08] old norton commander user :p [15:08] that is my favorite file manager & text editor [15:09] Action: slackytude sighs [15:09] not a mc conversation again [15:09] \o/ [15:10] <-|-> [15:11] hands over you head [15:11] /o\ [15:11] goats.cx? [15:11] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:11] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:11] no, a dude with his hands over his head [15:11] /o\ [15:12] ah [15:12] goatse,wtf? [15:12] i thought those were legs [15:12] thats not even close [15:12] eh? [15:12] lolz [15:12] dont google that, it will make you want to burn your eyes out with a hot iron [15:12] I remeber it -_- [15:13] l [15:13] omg my loves the kb :) [15:14] nille_: must think were a bunch of dirty old pervs [15:14] we arent? [15:14] think? [15:14] Vagrant[BoY] (n=Vagrant[@wolfy.itvet.ge) joined ##slackware. [15:14] i now you are [15:15] i'm not a dirty old perv [15:15] 30 isn't old [15:15] my wife keeps me on a leash and makes me eat supper from a bowl on the floor [15:15] Pig_Pen: interesting, i do that with one of my wives [15:15] do need to use the dog door? [15:16] i missed an you :p [15:16] gcc-4.4.3 takes forever to build! [15:16] all gcc takes forever to build [15:16] 4.3.3 [15:16] how do i check wheteher my kernel has mttr ... the .config file does not seems to be useful [15:17] whats mttr again? [15:17] cat & grep [15:17] zcat /proc/config.gz |grep foo [15:17] Vagrant[BoY] (n=Vagrant[@wolfy.itvet.ge) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:18] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:19] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:19] ok but I have only access to linux partition throug windows [15:19] hmm is /boot/config allrigh ? [15:19] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [15:19] yes [15:20] but grep wont work on windows [15:20] grab (n=at@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:20] hello [15:20] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.204.226) left irc: "bye-bye" [15:20] paul424: you'll never learn slackware from windows, its like learning to swim, you can swim by sticking your toe in the water you gotta jump in the deep end head first [15:21] s/can/cant [15:21] Bobbe (i=FullT@200-219-67-241.ggs6102.3g.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:21] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422709.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:22] misspwn (n=misspwn@67-54-166-220.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [15:22] Or learning to drive by sitting on the road and staring at passing cars. [15:22] Mean Time Trouble Repair? [15:22] I bet he means MTRR [15:23] grep MTRR /usr/src/linux/.config [15:23] CONFIG_MTRR=y [15:23] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:23] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.204.226) joined ##slackware. [15:23] Ive got it whatever it is [15:23] yep [15:23] "memory type range registers" or somesuch [15:24] oh, duh, of course, its them things [15:24] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_Type_Range_Registers [15:24] I have a problem setting wpa on my ralink card. When I type "iwpriv wlan0 set AuthMode=WPASK" I get : "wlan0 no private ioctls" [15:24] ohh ok ... always when I get the description like find whether Processor type and features -> MTRR (Memory Type Range Registers) Support is checked is useleess since after compilation I've got only the .config file .... or do I miss something [15:24] nix_chix (n=misspwn@67-54-166-220.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:24] I don't know what is the problem exactly do you have an idea ? [15:25] grab, use wicd [15:25] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.204.226) left ##slackware. [15:25] grab: if yo uare using an in-kernel module tehre will be no private IOCTLS [15:25] hmm yes this is a kernel module [15:25] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn6.91-127-118.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [15:25] Then use the wpa_supplicant to setup WPA and use the "wext" driver in wpa_Supplicant [15:25] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:26] or can I call something like make menu_config /path_to_.config file I am intrested ? [15:26] alienBOB: ok I try this [15:27] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [15:27] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:27] paul424 I do not understand at all what your question is [15:27] its menuconfig [15:27] After make menuconfig you end up with a new .config if that is what you mean. The next step is to compile the actual kernel [15:28] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422709.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:28] crazyhors (n=dirk@75.159.68.169) left ##slackware. [15:28] Pig_Pen: hmm but I mean I can preview the configureation of my current kernel with this. [15:30] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.135.109) joined ##slackware. [15:30] doesnt menuconfig offer a way to load a config file [15:30] paul424: you mean, something like: cd /usr/src/linux; zcat /proc/config.gz > .config ; make menuconfig [15:30] hi [15:30] that will let you view your running kernel's config in menuconfig [15:30] Urchlay: why I can't use the .config from the /boot directory [15:30] you can [15:30] you can load a config from menuconfig slackytude , If I recall right [15:31] hi guys [15:31] XDS2010 (i=440e5262@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-37d9e0f24296abdb) joined ##slackware. [15:31] Ilie: Hello. How are you? [15:31] but, if you've compiled your own kernel and set up /boot, you may have forgotten to update the /boot/config symlink [15:31] you can "make oldconfig" <- that should be a good idea [15:31] y0 Ilie [15:31] Hi rg3. [15:31] fine, thanks for the question firebird619 , how are you ? :) [15:31] Ilie: I am doing great, thank you. [15:31] what's that make oldconfig everyone talking about ? [15:32] /proc/config.gz is guaranteed to actually be the config file of the running kernel, because the running kernel generates it (/proc doesn't contain real files, everything in there is generated on the fly by the kernel) [15:32] paul424: I seriously advise you to spend some time reading the Slackbook for some basic knowledge... you will benefit from it [15:32] coz everything in unix is a file [15:32] i concur with alienBOB [15:33] yeah ok ;( [15:33] when all else fails, read the instructions [15:33] "make oldconfig" is for when you have a .config from an older kernel, and want to build a new kernel from the same config (it only asks you about options that are new, not set in the old .config file) [15:33] if in panic, if in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout [15:33] and yeah, this stuff should be explained in the book [15:33] lol slackytude [15:34] lol [15:34] ^-^ [15:34] lol [15:34] that's very helpfull I guess [15:34] :) [15:34] aye [15:34] people come and "help" you [15:35] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.175.170.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:37] Dad` (n=Dad`@AToulouse-258-1-100-188.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:37] guys [15:37] which should i use for a netbook [15:37] jfs, which is IBM's journaled fs [15:37] or reiser [15:37] and why [15:38] this a lenovo/ibm netbook [15:38] im leaning towards jfs [15:38] because they're both ibm? [15:38] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:38] I use jfs here on my lappy and it works great. [15:38] bye [15:38] either one would be fine, I have ext3 on my eee if that means anything to you [15:38] yep thinking of using jfs [15:38] gonna do it [15:38] bam done [15:38] Action: slackytude uses reiser on his lappy [15:38] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [15:39] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:39] grab (n=at@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: [15:39] I use ext3 for my / and jfs for anything else [15:39] this a netbook though not a notebook [15:39] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:39] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:39] I use ext3 on my eeepc netbook [15:39] alienbob is a pro [15:39] I heard that ext4 really sucks ... [15:39] why do you prefer ext3 over reiserfs or jfs [15:39] alienBOB: How do you like the eeepc? [15:40] Reiserfs is fast but when you break it's filesystem you will have a hard time recovering [15:40] I have no opinion about JFS [15:40] what about jfs [15:40] ok [15:40] im gonna use it [15:40] i heard its fast or perhaps faster than reiser [15:40] i find ext3 recovers well [15:40] but what about recovery? [15:40] operative words being "when you break"... I've never had reiserfs break itself [15:40] I like jfs, it works okay for me [15:41] I have and it did not recover [15:41] IBM funded hitler in ww2 [15:41] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [15:41] i feel bad using any ibm or lenovo product but w/e [15:41] I also use ext3 [15:41] XGizzmo the eeepc is really nice. It has > 5 hours of battery lifetime, runs KDE4 with compositing enabled and with the latest -current kernel I could get rif of ndiswrapper because rt2860sta is now enabled in the kernel [15:41] I did something extremely stupid once and broke a reiserfs badly (mounted root partition read/write, then mounted same partition read/write inside a vmware guest OS... whoops!) [15:41] kinesis: IBM did not fund hitler in ww2 [15:41] dang thats nice [15:42] they didnt fund hitler [15:42] but they provided ID tag systems for all the slaves and people in the death camps [15:42] microsoft did :D [15:42] I have a 1000h with 160GB disk and 1GB of RAM [15:42] j/k [15:42] they 'provided' hitler with IT equipment [15:42] the german branch of IBM was basically a separate company (run by germans) [15:42] alienBOB: which video card? [15:43] In the eeepc? Some kind of lowlife Intel onboard graphics [15:43] during the war, there was almost no contact between IBM in the US and the german IBM [15:43] urchaly did you recover from that [15:43] ah; kde4 effects do not work well on my intel card [15:43] Urchlay: same with IBM israel [15:43] oh [15:43] so it was out of ibm american control [15:43] kinesis: I did, but it took a while and the recovered root filesystem wasn't 100% right [15:44] alienBOB: heh, outperforms some > £100 nvidia at KDE4 :p [15:44] not all germans were nazis, that would be like hating all americans because of a few kkk groups [15:44] kinesis: being the root filesystem, I ended up reinstalling the OS (the data was on separate partition) [15:44] The eees I've used demoing KDE at expos run it better than my desktop :p [15:44] O yeah [15:45] polyeides (n=proteus@chello089075034039.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:45] polyeides (n=proteus@chello089075034039.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:45] fred: i'll be back to slamd eventually, but right now, enjoying the 32 bit version [15:46] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:46] one interesting piece of data about the IBM/nazi thing: Thomas Watson, founder of IBM in the US, actually received a medal from adolf hitler in something like 1937 [15:46] My eeepc has an Intel 945GME [15:46] he did? [15:46] what for [15:47] damned if I remember exactly. I read a book on this, like 5 years ago [15:47] Dad` (n=Dad`@AToulouse-258-1-100-188.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [15:47] paul424 (n=chatzill@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Client Quit [15:47] wiki says: n 1937, Watson received the Eagle with Star medal from Germany for the help that IBM subsidiary Dehomag (Deutsche Hollerith-Maschinen Gesellschaft mbH) and its punchcard machines provided the Nazi regime for tabulating census data. [15:48] "census data"... Watson didn't know about deathcamps [15:48] ill bet you tho [15:48] when it comes to microsoft vs linux [15:48] microsoft probably HATES redhat [15:48] thats like their worst enemy right tehr [15:49] microsoft probably likes redhat fine: they're a fairly traditional business, MS knows how to deal with those [15:49] what about centos lol [15:49] skibur (n=skibur@75.43.76.187) joined ##slackware. [15:49] MS doesn't really know how to deal with wild-eyed fanatics like Stallman though [15:49] competing with their IIS server [15:49] j0z (n=JESUS@189-11-43-153.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:49] (which is part of the reason why we need wild-eyed fanatics...) [15:50] Verdienstorden vom Deutschen Adler [15:50] oi, didnt want to paste that [15:51] hewy how do i install slack if i m not using a cd/dvd [15:51] i tried using a harddrive partition but it failed [15:51] it does full installation mode [15:51] then says setup complete [15:51] without installing anything [15:51] what did you do? [15:51] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:52] ok [15:52] i did 'setup' from root after putting my partiitons in [15:52] then [15:52] i added swap [15:52] microsoft cant deal with Linux being GNU/GPLed (FOSS) [15:52] then target [15:52] target to /dev/sda2 [15:52] you cant compete with free! [15:53] how can a salesman undersell something that is free! [15:53] i hope they reverse engineer bills crap then we just use linux 4ever [15:53] no more microsoft [15:53] Pig_Pen: If you're being specific about GPL, please chuck an L in FLOSS :p [15:53] I generally don't care for GNU/Linux vs Linux and all of that, but it does make it clearer what you're talking about :p [15:53] kinesis: centos isn't even made by redhat though, is it? (it's a clone of RHEL) [15:53] eg BSD being FOSS but not FLOSS [15:54] ok fred [15:54] no it isnt [15:54] GNU/you have to GNU/say GNU/linux :) [15:54] hey everybody!; what fred said [15:54] Ilie (i=1000@93.112.69.40) left irc: "Leaving" [15:54] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:54] Urchlay: :( [15:54] Urchlay: centos is rhel without the name branding. [15:54] I use GNU without linux [15:55] ITYM GNU/MIT/BSD/RedHat/SCO/Mandriva/Novell Linux. [15:55] lol remmeber yellow dog linux [15:55] fred: I'm only GNU/kidding :) [15:55] Ekc (n=iskar@79-100-12-217.btc-net.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [15:55] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:55] yellow hat linux [15:55] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [15:55] be sure to plenty of mental floss after eating [15:55] being a lazy typist, I agree with the reasons for the GNU/ prefix, but don't bother typing it much [15:55] yeah [15:56] gnu makes a great philosophy but a terrible religion [15:56] every time you write linux without GNU, god kills an emacs [15:56] good [15:56] and thats a bad thing? [15:56] whats an emacs? anything like a llama? [15:56] well, god is vi hacker, apparently [15:56] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [15:57] when i set setup to use a premounted dirctory [15:57] i heard stallman quit working on emacs, not sure what that means, maybe his comrades took it over [15:57] do i just do /mnt/slackware-12.2-dvd [15:57] or do i do /mnt/slackware-12.2-dvd/slackware [15:57] brb [15:57] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:58] acutally take off the /mnt [15:58] im just using /ntfs/slackware-12.2-dvd and it doesnt work [15:58] nvm i got it to work [15:58] lol [15:59] ./ntfs/slackware-12.2-dvd/slackware [16:00] gm152_ (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] kinesis, installing now? [16:01] yep [16:01] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:02] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Success [16:02] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.175.170.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:02] OG slackware [16:02] on my netbook [16:02] this poor dude on #windows-server is fighting with exchange 2007 now. for more than 14 hours now [16:03] Urchlay: you really think that GNU's contribution is worth mentioning in the name, but the open group, MIT, Berkeley, XFree86, and others isn't? [16:03] the slackware is installing FURIOULSY [16:03] db got corrupted, backups as well. had to buy a $900 make-it-right-tool as well [16:03] actualyl, don't answer that, don't want this argument now/here: p [16:03] wow thats fuct [16:03] sounds like bankruptcy [16:04] slackytude: serves him right? [16:04] \o/ got the camera working [16:04] thumbs, well, yeah, but still, its not pretty watching [16:04] stillborn (n=stillbor@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff71c100-46.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:05] some stuff he has to do is just plain stupid [16:05] well he is the admin of a windows server, ater all. [16:06] heh, yeah [16:06] worse than that, its exchange [16:06] I don't think it can get any worse. [16:06] fred: eh, put it like that, then no [16:07] heh we have an Old_Spike0 and an Old_Fogie [16:07] fogie spikes? [16:07] I do wish there were a non-GNU free software C compiler to build the kernel with though [16:07] or Fogie's_Spike. ewww [16:08] Urchlay, llvm ? [16:08] slackytude: can you actually compile a running kernel with that yet? [16:08] http://www.trendcaller.com/2009/04/portable-linux-future-using-llvm.html [16:09] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [16:09] actually thats the wrong link [16:10] stillborn (n=stillbor@CMXXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [16:11] Urchlay, I was thinking of intels icc compiler [16:12] http://kerneltrap.org/node/3866 [16:12] intel's icc isn't Free Software [16:12] I know [16:12] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) left irc: Connection timed out [16:12] (though it's free of charge) [16:12] I confused them [16:12] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.134.47) left irc: "Leaving" [16:12] ah [16:12] linux with llvm sounds nice, tho [16:14] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) joined ##slackware. [16:14] does anyone even use TeX anymore [16:15] sure [16:15] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:15] hm, llvm does look interesting [16:16] I'm having an issue with crontab, its not running my scripts when the time comes. [16:17] This is the correct way to set it? 0 11 * * * /home/lf4/linux-scripts/testing.sh [16:17] well is it an correct rule? [16:17] lf4: the first step is to verify cron is running; i once had a problem with the cron daemon dying and it was very confusing [16:18] is there an intel GMA driver for linux [16:18] that'll get me 3d graphics support [16:18] rg3: Interesting.. I'll check it out. [16:18] way179 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:18] that looks correct, so long as you want it to run at 11:00AM every day [16:18] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:18] and so long as /home/lf4/linux-scripts/testing.sh exists and is executable [16:18] crontab -l [16:19] and iirc, cron doesn't set a PATH, so if that script then requires PATH set, you should change the script or set PATH at the beginning of it [16:19] Urchlay: Yeah I figured it was and yes it is executable :) [16:19] or source /etc/bashrc [16:19] the script should [16:20] rg3: crond is running ps -A | grep cron showed; 3163 ? 00:00:00 crond [16:20] Nick change: CtrlAltCa -> Guest31226 [16:20] Nick change: |newbie| -> CtrlAltCa [16:20] lf4: now verify the rest [16:20] If I ever start a IT company, Ill call it 3rd party [16:20] paissad (n=paissad@38.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [16:21] 3rd Party Solutions? [16:21] slackytude: good idea! [16:21] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422709.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:21] something along those lines [16:21] 3rd party does it all ^-^ [16:21] my company is called Kinetic IT Solutions (www.kinetic-it.com) [16:21] rg3: I already did which is why I am confused. lol [16:21] we have a whopping 1 employees =) [16:22] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:22] kinesis: you the manager of that single employee? ;) [16:22] yep [16:22] self employed [16:22] lf4: hehe, do you check your local mail? is sendmail running? if there's a problem with the script, cron will email you the output [16:22] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:22] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:23] i need to re do that site tho [16:23] rg3: I did not know that and I don't know how to check local mail I did not set up a mail server daemon on here. [16:23] brb shower [16:23] lf4: you could try adding to the end of your cron command: >> /tmp/cronjob.output [16:24] lf4: first check if sendmail is running, then see if your local mailbox has messages (ls -l /var/spool/mail/ will be enough) [16:24] er, make that &>, not >> [16:24] person2 (n=ed@92.3.6.127) joined ##slackware. [16:24] oh, that too [16:24] heh [16:24] if my LCD only support 1024x600 and i put my kernel framebuffer at 1024x768x64k what happens [16:24] redirect the output to a specific file instead of having cron mail you the output [16:24] does it downscale? [16:24] 0 11 * * * /home/lf4/linux-scripts/testing.sh &> /tmp/cron.output [16:24] stillbor2 (n=stillbor@85.77.244.244) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:25] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:25] does &> work in bourne shell mode? or is >/tmp/cron.output 2>&1 preferred? [16:25] Riley (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:25] rg3: &> works on Linux because /bin/sh is really a symlink to bash... but you're right, >/tmp/cron.output 2>&1 would be the most portable way [16:26] if i have a synaptics touch pad [16:26] ps2? [16:26] i honestly didn't know bash accepted &> too in bourne shell compatibility mode (i.e. when it's called as /bin/sh) [16:27] I don't think bash actually runs any differently when called as /bin/sh [16:28] shouldn't, since /bin/sh is just a symlink :) [16:28] ah, crap, there goes my cable modem... [16:28] sauvin (n=sauvin@unaffiliated/sauvin) joined ##slackware. [16:28] wtf is rc.fuse [16:28] fuse = filesystem in user space [16:28] well, it could examine argv[0] to see how it was called, and behave differently... but I don't think it does [16:28] anyone uses open office here ? [16:29] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [16:29] DeeeeP: dumb question :) [16:29] i use openoffice on occasion [16:29] DeeeeP: I just installed it on my system yesterday :) [16:29] thrice`, im trying sbo , but cant find a mirror with in , in instalation [16:29] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [16:29] LnxSlck (i=1000@88.214.165.191) joined ##slackware. [16:29] better question :) did you try the one it links to ? [16:30] why would i want rc.fuse enabled [16:30] http://ftp-atl.osuosl.org/pub/openoffice/stable/3.0.1/OOo_3.0.1_LinuxIntel_install_en-US.tar.gz [16:30] i just download from openoffice.org and use rpm2tgz or whatever that package changing thing is [16:30] download fail. [16:30] [WARNING] openoffice 3.0.1 NOT actually exist in English (GB) language on this mirror [16:30] kinesis, its for fuse, leave it on [16:30] i want to install as slackware package [16:30] DeeeeP, sbo [16:30] ok [16:30] DeeeeP: I installed the SBo 3.0.1 OpenOffice just fine. [16:30] well, bash does behave differently if called as sh [16:30] kk , gona try sb0 [16:31] but i'd have to read the full manual to find out [16:31] for example, in the startup section the manual says "If bash is invoked with the name sh, it tries to mimic the startup behavior of historical versions of sh as closely as possible" [16:31] can you get other custom fonts for slackware besides the one the setup program has [16:31] and it goes on to explain that [16:32] blackbox vs fluxbox vs openbox - which? [16:33] rg3: ah, OK, so it does act differently... &> still works though [16:33] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:33] i always liked blackbox, slack doesnt even have openbo [16:33] err fluxbox sorry [16:33] fluxbox > blackbox [16:33] openbox is on sbo [16:33] sbo?? [16:33] Humm alright cron just ran and /tmp/cron.log had two lines of; Error: no display specified [16:33] slackbuilds.org [16:34] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-f902aec1744af324) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:34] WOW nice boot logo [16:34] kinesis, check out sbopkg.org as well [16:34] and screen [16:34] very slick [16:34] rg3: a while ago I was playing with the "heirloom" shell (real bourne shell, based on opensolaris sources IIRC), but never got brave enough to replace /bin/sh with it [16:34] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:35] hmm [16:35] lf4: OK, your script ran, it sounds like it's trying to run some X program. try adding DISPLAY=:0 before the command [16:35] is opensolaris any good? [16:35] kinesis: I dunno, I've never run it [16:35] Urchlay: i once replaced /bin/sh with /bin/ash, but then the network startup scripts didn't work [16:35] wow this thing is taking forever at Loading linux................................................. [16:35] if you see eviljames awake in here, ask him [16:35] dunnen (n=mike@ip98-166-14-105.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:36] bah [16:36] kernel wont support framebuffer res of 1024x600x64k [16:36] thats bs [16:36] Urchlay: they contain bashisms, so in slackware you can't change /bin/sh to another thing easily [16:36] i have to use 800x600x64k [16:36] is there any way to get it to su pport it [16:36] rg3: last time I tried ash as /bin/sh, I discovered bash supports subshells like (command), but ash requires ( command ) [with spaces around it] [16:37] Urchlay: i reported that to the team and they said it was ok to have some bashisms in the startup scripts because bash was shipped as /bin/sh [16:37] oh, right, rc.inet1 and .conf use bash arrays now [16:37] rg3: the relevant scripts should have #!/bin/bash as the first line, then [16:37] yes, i also suggested that, iirc [16:37] ya cant stick slackware in a food processor and grind it to a puree and pour it back in to your PC and expect it to work [16:38] I used to always blow away rc.inet1 and just replace it with 4 or 5 lines of ifconfig and route commands, as needed [16:38] I did that often as well [16:39] ok now time to get data tethering to work in linux [16:39] a skilled surgeon can make a nice monster out of it though :D [16:39] [SOLVED] Linux USB Tethering on Touch Pro Working via ICS / usb-rndis-lite [16:39] these days I use wicd [16:39] rg3: changing #!/bin/sh to #!/bin/bash is such a trivial thing, why would they not do that? [16:39] don't know, i can paste the email if you want to read it [16:40] eh, sure I guess [16:40] ...who is "they" anyway? [16:41] Urchlay: http://rafb.net/p/FrxbsT17.html [16:42] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [16:42] hm [16:43] he didn't say yes or no to using #!/bin/bash really [16:43] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:43] but it's a minor detail anyway, I suppose [16:45] i never insist when it's a matter of opinion [16:45] me either, unless it's also my project :) [16:46] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [16:46] http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=27010 check out this crazy person! [16:47] but i do think it should say #!/bin/bash when it uses bashisms, and if bash is required anyway, there's no reason not to require it explicitly [16:47] gr3 read the bash man page, bash behaves differently when called from its sh symlink [16:48] ya think you know better than the people that put it all together? [16:49] Pig_Pen, madness [16:49] I will bet you any amount of money that the slackware /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 script will still work the same, if you change the first line to read #!/bin/bash [16:49] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:49] sure it will work, but why bother changing that first line from sh to bash? [16:49] I nearly always specify the interpreter needed on a shebang line because it's actually not necessarily predictable which shell I'll be using at any given time. [16:50] erizoe (n=kambee@ip72-209-59-92.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[16:50] cause it uses bash extensions... it's not really for the computer's sake that you'd chage the line, it's more of a clue to humans who are reading/modifying the script [16:51] who just watched that video link i posted, just think if something was loose on the underside of that train and ripped that guy to pieces [16:51] Pig_Pen: i said exactly that, so you don't need to correct me on that point :D [16:51] Pig_Pen, I did and I though so aswell [16:51] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection reset by peer [16:51] whenever I see #!/bin/bash at the top of a script, I read it as a comment that says "this script probably won't work in bourne/ksh/zsh/anything-else" [16:51] its madness [16:51] I just hope its photoshopped or sumthing [16:52] i doubt its photoshopped, just some dummy with a vid camera [16:52] Action: slackytude nods [16:52] is he brave or just stupid? [16:52] future darwin award [16:52] probably some depressed teenager [16:53] a little brave and a whole lot of stupid, why risk your life for that [16:53] wow ill be damned my m ouse works [16:53] no hackery needed [16:53] now if i can get the rndis to work [16:54] erizoe (n=kambee@ip72-209-59-92.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:54] Urchlay: indeed it should work, and the additional benefit would be that you could change /bin/sh to be another bourne shell interpreter and the computer would still boot as long as bash is installed [16:54] Urchlay: well, it's not like it doesn't boot now, it boots but those scripts are not run [16:55] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.204.226) joined ##slackware. [16:55] yeah [16:56] how ome when i plug my phone in as modem i dont get a rndis0 device [16:56] also, here's a thought: beginning shell programmers will probably look at their system init scripts as examples of how to do stuff [16:56] is there something im missng [16:56] kinesis: check dmesg [16:56] i did [16:57] oh dmesg, i was tail -f /var/log/messages& [16:57] using #!/bin/sh in a script that only works on bash, is a bad example, and will lead to people writing & releasing code that does the same thing [16:57] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [16:57] i get stuff but its not loading the rndis0 device [16:57] oh i see [16:57] kinesis: normaly it uses /dev/ttyS0 [16:57] rndis_host 1-2:1.0: RNDIS_MSG_QUERY(0x00010202) failed, -47 [16:57] yeah this isnt a modem tho [16:57] this is rndis [16:57] Urchlay: but in slackware /bin/sh is really just a symlink to bash [16:58] slackerpete (n=slackerp@86.130.134.7) left irc: "Leaving" [16:58] sh is not bash [16:58] acidchild: eh ? [16:58] duryodhan: yes, and the scripts work fine. I think the #!/bin/bash line should be there anyway, to let humans know "this is a bash script, not meant for other shells". Obviously the computer doesn't care [16:58] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:59] half (or more) of writing good code is the art of commenting [16:59] the #! is not a comment [16:59] blop00 (i=1000@23-52.2-0.pl) left irc: "time to go" [16:59] its easier to write code than to read it [16:59] uhmm, #!/bin/bash is there to indicate what interpreter will be used by the os. it's not there for humans [16:59] yes exactly [17:00] but bash and sh are diffrent. [17:00] acidchild: note the "IN SLACKWARE" [17:00] LnxSlck (i=1000@88.214.165.191) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:01] s0d0 (n=john@81.141.106.134) left irc: "Leaving" [17:01] its not always been that way >.> *sees slink* [17:02] Action: acidchild goes back in his corner [17:02] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:02] damn man looks like it worked 1 time, loaded an eth1 interfaqe [17:02] but now it wont work [17:02] ananke: code can be comment, too... like naming a variable "time_to_live" instead of "ttl" (the computer doesn't care, but it makes it easier for humans to read...) [17:02] kinesis: unload the module. [17:03] and actually the #! is a special case: to the kernel, it's code. To the shell, it's a comment. [17:03] ok [17:03] i rebooted tho [17:03] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:03] it wont work [17:03] still [17:03] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:03] lsmod doesnt show anything [17:03] see if your device needs special module perams [17:03] rndis_host is not loaded? [17:03] ok [17:03] no [17:03] its not [17:04] if i do modprobe rndis_host it says not found [17:04] Urchlay : i'm not sure what your point is. #!/bin/bash is clearly there not just for the humans [17:05] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:05] doesn't the command line enviroment use shebangs? [17:05] ananke: my point is, as far as a slackware system is concerned, either #!/bin/sh or #!/bin/bash will work fine (the script works correctly either way). That being the case, it's better to use #!/bin/bash to give readers a clue that the script really only works on bash [17:05] acidchild, it does [17:05] acidchild: the kernel uses shebangs [17:05] for? [17:05] for what you expect: to decide what interpreter to load [17:06] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.97.124) joined ##slackware. [17:06] i thought 'bash' or 'ksh' or what ever reads these and uses the shebang to execute it? [17:06] nope [17:06] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [17:06] You're saying the kernel ITSELF does that? [17:06] yes [17:06] how? [17:06] I think you are mistaken there. its not the kernel, afaik [17:06] how is that piece processed? sounds very insecure. [17:07] acidchild: it is kind of insecure... which is one reason why setuid scripts aren't allowed [17:07] Urchlay : i see, so the issue here is /bin/bash versus /bin/sh. i thought you meant that this line in general is only for humans [17:07] Urchlay: suid perl is safe, still requires a shebang. [17:07] ananke: no, I meant specifically for rc.inet1 [17:07] suid perl is "magic", it requires the perl interpreter itself to be setuid [17:08] making /bin/bash setuid root is a Very Bad Idea :) [17:08] mrS (n=Sven@cc1312074-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:08] I stand corrected [17:08] it is the kernel that will look at the shebang [17:08] so what operation reads the shebang? [17:08] exec() [17:08] and how does bash or w/e call this from the kernel? [17:08] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:08] acidchild: the exec family of syscalls [17:09] aye [17:09] kernel being higher privs... so change uid to root for reading, then drop back down again? [17:09] bash just calls execve(program_to_run, arguments, ...) [17:09] its a system call. all of them are handle by kernel [17:09] cool [17:09] by a software interupt usually [17:09] int 0x80 IIRC :) [17:09] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:10] man, I know far too much about computers [17:10] (at one time I was learning to do assembly programming on Linux, but never really had a practical use for it so I've forgot most of what little I knew...) [17:10] i wish i knew more [17:10] Action: slackytude should stop working for his CS degree and become a pirate [17:10] by the way, man execve explicitly mentions the shebang thing [17:10] or something [17:10] Urchlay: 80 sounds right. [17:11] I did some ARM assembly [17:11] and was glad for it [17:11] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:11] I've done loads & loads of assembly for the 6502, but it's not really something I could get paid for unless I had a time machine [17:11] haha. [17:12] anybody knows how to run the kdm authentication manager (kde4) as root? [17:12] might be work in converting it in to a higher level language though [17:12] I wouldnt use a timemachine just to get work as assembly coder, tho [17:12] like reverse engineering old setups on equipment, rewriting in to a higher level language. [17:12] LnxSlck: isn't it run as root normally? or you mean its configuration panel? [17:12] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:12] rg3, it's configuration panel [17:12] rg3, i open it, and it's read only [17:12] time machines are hardware, so I can't make one :) [17:13] LnxSlck: doesn't it have an "administrator mode" button somewhere to unlock it? [17:13] rg3, nope [17:13] rg3, kde3 had one... [17:13] hmm, no idea then, sorry [17:13] administration mode! woo [17:14] I do think knowing *some* flavor of assembly language will give almost anyone a better understanding of how computers work, even if they're high level language programmers [17:14] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:14] agreed [17:14] LnxSlck: you could use kdesu [17:14] I kinda liked it, too [17:14] LnxSlck: ... maybe you could try "kdesu kconfig" or the equivalent for kde4 (whatever the program is called, you can find it using ps while running it as a normal user) [17:15] woulndt like to do it daily tho [17:15] and if you can, avoid intel assembly [17:15] heh [17:15] its crap [17:15] rg3, yep. the problem is i don't now it's name [17:15] rg3, #kde ? [17:16] gm152_ (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:16] LnxSlck: "ps x" while it's running and you'll probably find out [17:16] rg3, i got it thanks [17:17] I finnaly learned why the Intel registers have funky names like eax, ebx and so on [17:17] its sad [17:18] its simple .. it started with ax,bx,... [17:18] and e is for extended [17:18] it turns out, that they were simply called A,B,C and D with their first stuff [17:18] right ? [17:18] right [17:18] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:18] whats sad about that ? [17:18] for 16bit, they extended it, so it became AX,BX,CX,DX [17:18] slackytude: it's all relative. The 6502 has one 8-bit actual purpose register and two 8-bit index registers (that can do a couple of things other than indexing too)... the original 8086 was like heaven, it had 4 16-bit GP regs that could be used as 8 8-bit ones... [17:18] Uuu (n=opera@87-205-177-169.adsl.inetia.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:18] now at 64 bit its EEAX,EEBX,EECX and EEDX [17:19] HAHA [17:19] (well, not all the 8086 regs could be used for exactly the same purposes (jcxz only works with CX, etc), but it was a lot closer to ideal than the 6502 was) [17:19] Action: duryodhan didn't know about 64 bit names [17:19] Extended Extended A Extension [17:19] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:19] from the dept. of redundancies dept. [17:20] Urchlay, wasnt 8086 4 8 bit ? [17:20] 8086 is 16-bit [17:20] with A,B,C,D ? [17:20] nah, that's the 8008 and/or 8080 [17:20] oi, right [17:20] slackytude: 8086 was both I think .. so AX would be 16 bit .. but you can use AL also [17:20] duryodhan: yep [17:21] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:21] Al or AH [17:21] no? [17:21] yes [17:21] ya [17:21] Action: slackytude nods [17:21] just get me an ARM [17:21] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:21] can someone do me a super huge favor? [17:21] svn co https://synce.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/synce/trunk/usb-rndis-lite/ [17:21] Actually most of the whole EEAX etc. is just an abstraction layer [17:21] nowadays it all compiles down to RISC [17:21] tar cfvz usb-rndis-lite.tgz usb-rndis-lite/ [17:21] yeah [17:21] and send it to me [17:22] kinesis: you can't "svn co" yourself? [17:22] no internet connection [17:22] intel is just a garbled mess [17:22] its a wonder anything works at all [17:22] ...not even the one you're using for IRC? [17:22] nope [17:22] its a long range wifi link [17:22] well, not intel per se, x86 [17:22] i cant share it to my laptop [17:22] windows xp doesnt have working ics features [17:23] slackytude: why is it a mess ? I don't mind .. it seems to work :D [17:23] kinesis: O.o [17:23] can u get me that tgz pls [17:23] and post it on the web or dcc me it [17:23] Bugz (n=Bugz@75.42.87.146) joined ##slackware. [17:24] http://dubstep.7a69.co.uk/~ash/usb-rndis-lite.tbz2 [17:24] kinesis: http://synce.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/synce.tar.gz?view=tar [17:24] kinesis: sourceforge's SVN viewer will make a tarball for you [17:24] ok [17:24] http://dubstep.7a69.co.uk/~ash/kinesis/usb-rndis-lite.tbz2 [17:24] thats the none 404 version :P [17:25] duryodhan, well, layer above layer of compatibility mode [17:25] like these russian dolls [17:25] and all risc at the bottom [17:25] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@75.42.87.146) joined ##slackware. [17:25] Channel flood from slackytude -- kicking [17:25] its insane [17:25] slackytude kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [17:25] http://synce.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/synce/ <--- click on "download gnu tarball", very damn useful capability [17:25] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A7646E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:25] GNU TARBALL? [17:25] go lag! [17:25] ew that sounds gross [17:26] I think it was linuxhater who said "let me ungzip and you can suck on my tarballs" [17:26] Action: duryodhan hopes he doesn't get kicked [17:26] ewww [17:26] if I could reach you with my foot, you'd get kicked in the shin [17:26] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-10-163.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:27] Action: alienBOB laughs to hard to kick duryodhan [17:27] Urchlay: not teh tarballs ? [17:27] nah, wasn't bad enough to deserve that [17:27] lol [17:27] Uuu (n=opera@87-205-177-169.adsl.inetia.pl) left ##slackware. [17:28] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [17:29] hm. Sourceforge's web svn viewer will make a tarball for you, but the cvs viewer doesn't seem to be able to [17:29] nvision (n=nvision@g229065065.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [17:29] i tared and bunziped it for him anyways [17:29] like 20 lines up the page [17:30] Humm this script is having issues because of the killall command i think. Here is the script I'm trying to run with cron. http://pastebin.ca/1396778 [17:30] anyone ever migrate a large project from cvs to svn? is it a pain in the ass to preserve the changelogs? do you lose the ability to checkout old cvs revisions? [17:30] heh [17:30] thanks acidchild [17:30] Urchlay: its easyer if you've kept a clean enviroment [17:30] ill try that out hopefully the svn version will get my rndis0 device to work [17:31] Urchlay: you can move it with perl... [17:31] kinesis: read the README [17:31] chances are you need to load the module with an option [17:31] acidchild: eh, well, this isn't my project, it's something that's been around for many years (atari800) [17:31] there is no readme [17:31] lol [17:31] module option=foo [17:31] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@80.13.114.50) left irc: "Leaving" [17:31] lf4: why on earth are you trying to run firefox in cron? [17:31] inertia probably dictates that it'll never move to svn... [17:31] how do i remove the old modules [17:32] that are likely conflicting with this newer svn version [17:32] lf4: what the hell are you trying to do? [17:32] and the command your looking for is 'pkill' [17:32] lf4: one thing you maybe didn't think of: if you "killall firefox-bin" and it was really running... then start firefox... it'll give you the "your last session crashed" dialog [17:33] trying to run a script with in firefox ever night at 2am. [17:33] eh, but why? [17:33] can i just rm the /lib/modules/2.6.2.7-smp/kernel/drivers/net/usb/rndis_host.ko ? [17:33] Urchlay: I disablled that with about:config [17:33] lf4: OK, nevermind, you did think about that :0 [17:33] still, it's a valid question, why are you doing this? [17:34] lf4: pkill not kill all [17:34] (I'll accept "playing around" or "trying to learn how this stuff works" as valid answers though) [17:34] lf4: a cron job does not run in a graphical environment. Your firefox (or any X app) will never start [17:34] acidchild: you mean I should do pkill firefox* [17:34] trying to annoy Urchlay is a valid answer too [17:34] you can run firefox headless [17:34] iirc [17:34] lf4: no just pkill firefox [17:34] will work [17:34] whhy would you run firefox headless? [17:34] alienBOB: cron is starting a script that will run firefox thats all [17:35] lf4: it will not work [17:35] it might :P [17:35] slackytude: many people do .. running tests on firefox etc. [17:35] writing a javascript refresh would work better? [17:35] hrm [17:35] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:35] Or do you run X and ran "xhost +" to allow other process to display on your display? [17:36] Action: duryodhan doesn't the main problem [17:36] *know [17:36] alienBOB: even if cron is just set to run a script? [17:36] lf4: indeed [17:36] The script will run but firefox will fail to run [17:36] the script starts firefox not cron [17:37] if I run the script from bash it works just fine except the process of killing firefox. [17:37] Try running your script outside of X, in a console. That is about the same environment as the script is started by the cron daemon [17:37] alienBOB: Ahh now that makes sense. [17:38] i cannot get this damn rndis0 device to load [17:38] acidchild: I'm on my 3rd cup of cofeee, not really easy to annoy any more :) [17:38] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:38] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:38] I think even if you run that script from a console.. if an X session is on .. firefox will open in it [17:38] i cant load the damn module [17:38] but haven't tried it [17:38] wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [17:39] what file contains the interactions of which/what module to load when a usb device is plugged in [17:39] ehh, "DISPLAY=:0 firefox" ought to work, so long as X is running and the cronjob runs as the user who started X [17:39] kinesis: /etc/udev/rules.d/* [17:39] and/or /lib/udev/rules.d/* [17:39] ok [17:39] I doubt cron runs jobs as some user [17:40] what would it be for rndis0 [17:40] probably as nobody [17:40] duryodhan: eh? every user can run cron jobs as themselves [17:40] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [17:40] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:40] Urchlay is correct because DISPLAY=:0 firefox& runs the issue is I want to kill all other firefox sessions before starting it and then once its finished kill them again. [17:40] shouldnt the module load rndis0 automatically [17:40] ??? [17:40] (unless slackware supports blacklisting them, I can't remember if it does) [17:40] ohh [17:41] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [17:42] lf4: "killall firefox-bin" doesn't work? (I'm not going to try it right now, I have 3 ff windows open, one with 15 tabs...) [17:42] restarted the phone [17:42] see if it helps [17:42] I mean I can always manually close firefox to make sure there are no processes at night then close them in the morning. [17:42] Urchlay: It does work the problem is it seems to wait for a key press to finish the process. [17:42] can i pastebin the syslog/dmesg output [17:42] and maybe you guys can help me get a rndis0 device up [17:43] what... are you actually trying to accomplish? I mean your overall purpose in doing this? [17:43] i think i broke it, i had a eth1 device before [17:43] now i wont get it anymore [17:43] killall opera also has problems [17:43] lol see cron just ran my script and opened firefox and now it did what it suppost to do. I just wanted to avoid having multiple sessions of firefox open. [17:43] lf4: but but... *why* do you want to open firefox from cron? I'm curious... [17:43] Urchlay: I have a script with in firefox that I want to run every night at 2am. [17:44] wahts the script writen in? [17:44] java [17:44] javascript? [17:44] yes JS [17:44] sorry [17:44] lynx has javascript support [17:44] cron -> firefox -> javascript [17:44] nice [17:44] slackytude: I try to make things as complicated as I can :) [17:44] I noticed [17:44] eh, so, why not run it as "firefox file:///path/to/script.js" from your cron script? [17:45] and what does the js do? [17:45] and can't you build in to the java script a loop [17:45] that works every 2AM [17:45] but what are you trying to do with that javascript ? [17:45] its built in to a firefox addon iMacro. [17:45] and run the entire thing from a screen'ed 'lynx' session. [17:45] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.135.109) left irc: "Leaving." [17:45] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [17:45] -shrugs- [17:45] yeah, screen + lynx sounds a lot nicer to me, too [17:45] thats the problem.. oh well I can figure out another way around this just thought cron would work. [17:46] er, links, not lynx [17:46] lf4: there is also 'atd' [17:46] atd? [17:46] at 2AM do_blah [17:46] at is a command .. google it [17:46] lf4: 'man at' [17:46] using at instead of cron doesn't really change the problem though [17:46] at, batch, atq, atrm - queue, examine or delete jobs for later execution [17:46] Urchlay: very true :-) [17:46] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host55-15-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [17:47] Urchlay: just broadening his learning :D [17:47] (plus he has a new problem: at is for one-shot commands, not recurring ones like "every night at 2AM") [17:47] Its alright I'll just have to make sure no firefox sessons are running past midnight then the script works. [17:47] koolniczka (n=nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) joined ##slackware. [17:47] Action: acidchild farts? [17:47] lf4: downloading pron at 2 AM? :) [17:47] lf4: here's a thought: it's perfectly OK to create multiple profiles in firefox, and run 2 or more FF sessions at once, so long as they use different profiles [17:48] Urchlay: is it ? [17:48] duryodhan: it is [17:48] Urchlay: I don't think you can run 2 instances of firefox with 2 different profiles [17:48] yep [17:48] if you specify the profile name on the command line, you don't get the session dialog [17:48] there is a flag to start firefox with profile selector [17:48] just like how mozilla still does [17:48] firefox -ProfileManager [17:49] yes, and there is a flag to start firefox with a specific profile instead of a selector, unless it's gone away in FF3 [17:49] lol you all are making this really a big deal all I wanted was a script that would kill all firefox process before starting a new one. [17:49] lf4: --display=DISPLAY X display to use [17:49] another flag for firefox [17:49] no .. but if you have a firefox window open with one profile .. and you start another with a diff profile in same X .. then the other profile isn't opened [17:49] duryodhan: yes it is. [17:49] duryodhan: really? I used multiple profiles started from .xinitrc for several years, it always worked, but that was firefox 1.5 or so [17:50] -P Start with . [17:50] Urchlay: still does work. [17:50] I just tested it .. I had a firefox open .. i tried firefox -P ... it opened the old profile window [17:50] duryodhan: did you make a new profile first? [17:50] duryodhan: add "-no-remote" possibly? [17:50] using the profile manager. [17:50] er, yeah, and make a new profile as well :) [17:50] Urchlay: :P [17:50] Action: lf4 doesn't need multiple profiles for firefox with what I am attempting to do. [17:50] ... [17:50] lf4: its a solution to your issue. [17:51] lf4: you do, if you normally use firefox for browsing, and if you might forget to close all your ff windows every night... [17:51] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:51] that would mean I need 4 profiles (one for my normal use) and 3 for each script. 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[18:01] swriter [18:01] and to see pps apresentations ? [18:01] soffice [18:01] ok thanks [18:02] wont run :x [18:02] used the sbo [18:02] simpress ? [18:02] just check opt openoffice program [18:02] eh, Im not on openoffice 3 [18:03] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) got lost in the net-split. [18:03] think it changed [18:03] paul424 (n=chatzill@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:03] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.204.226) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:04] wolven (n=wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined ##slackware. [18:06] Alright here is a solution that should work so I dont have multiple firefox windows open... is my script correct? [18:06] http://pastebin.ca/1396804 [18:06] wolven (n=wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:07] Bobbe (i=FullT@200-219-67-241.ggs6102.3g.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Take the red pill [www.fullt.net]" [18:07] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166044109.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:07] wolven (n=wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined ##slackware. [18:07] Hey lf4. How's it going? [18:07] Guest31226 (n=fabio@host96-72-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:07] firebird619: Things are going well how are you? [18:07] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166044109.dsl.hol.gr) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:08] great. thanks. [18:08] I've been searching for those sunset pictures I was telling you about last night. For the life of me, I can't find them. [18:09] Haha aww I know how that goes you know right where they are just cant think of it. :) [18:09] lf4: exactly. :) [18:10] I know for sure I have them. I just don't know where. :P [18:11] Well you'll find them sooner or later. Maybe upload them on an image site you have for next time. :) [18:12] lf4: I did find this one though: http://www.imgur.com/1pyC [18:13] That looks cool, nice shadow effects with the trees in the distance [18:13] lf4: Yeah, it turned out nice. [18:14] lf4: I like the ones that give the appearance of a fire red or orange sky. [18:14] Yeah now I see what you mean, where did you take that picture? [18:14] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:15] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:16] kamaji_ (n=kamaji@bw-user.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:16] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [18:17] habtool (n=habtool@86-45-153-76-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [18:18] lf4: I live in SW Minnesota, I took it a few blocks from my house. [18:18] LnxSlck_ (i=1000@92.250.7.128) joined ##slackware. [18:19] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) joined ##slackware. [18:19] nice firebird619 :) never been to MN [18:19] lf4: just west of my house is a huge open area of land that's just perfect for getting shots like that. You just have to wait for the right moment where the clouds, sun, etc. create that perfect shot. [18:20] Yeah lots of good photos are about waiting and watching. [18:20] lf4: Yes, that's for sure. But shots like that are worth the wait. [18:21] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:21] lf4: I didn't find that one right away because I have some tagged wrong as clouds instead of sunset. :) [18:21] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:22] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:23] Oh yeah and its nice just waiting because you have time to just think and relax. :) Haha I know its a pain trying to remember file names like that. [18:24] rato (n=marcus@189.25.3.234) joined ##slackware. [18:25] lf4: It used to be I left them with standard file names the camera gave, DSC0001, etc. but now I've started back renaming like "Sunset date" etc. [18:25] s/back/batch [18:25] kamaji_ (n=kamaji@bw-user.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "schleeep" [18:26] Nick change: gartt_ -> gartt [18:26] hmm, is there any kind of open source machine vision engine, where you could say "show me all the image files that are mostly orange", something like that? [18:27] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@89-212-36-81.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:27] firebird619: Oh man I know what you mean I need to do that as well I at least have them organized in directories some what... nice thing is you get to look at all of them again and go OH yeah I remember that one. [18:27] Urchlay: I wish there was. I was just thinking about a couple hours ago. :) [18:27] (I assume google image search does more than just go by the filename, I've searched for all kinds of stuff and gotten images with the DSC0001 type filenames) [18:27] Urchlay: Haha that would be funny if there was but what about someone wearing an orange shirt or pictures of the fruit? [18:28] lf4: well it would narrow down your search anyway [18:28] True [18:28] you'd maybe only have to look at 10 pictures instead of 100 [18:28] yht (n=yht@114.121.23.172) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:28] rato (n=marcus@189.25.3.234) left ##slackware. [18:28] yht (n=yht@114.121.16.26) joined ##slackware. [18:28] lf4: Exactly, when you go through all your photos it's like "Oh yeah I remember that one" and then you start remember where you took it, etc. [18:28] Now where is the fun in that? XD [18:29] wolven (n=wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:29] firebird619: I did that just a few weeks ago it was nice :) which is why I had all those photos on that facebook account. [18:29] Urchlay: e-mail google. Maybe they'll have something in google labs by the end of next week. :P [18:29] I might be working for the company that is googles helpdesk by may 4th. :) [18:30] wonder how much something like that would have in common with OCR [18:30] ^2RsimH^8 [18:30] Shit [18:30] lf4: I use digiKam now for organizing, viewing, etc. Picasa is really nice. [18:30] person2: Need to change your password now? :P [18:30] (tesseract is a damn fine OCR engine, and IIRC it was released by google) [18:30] Urchlay: Is it? I've never tried OCR stuff on linux. [18:31] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:31] aww now I have to edit my JS to not give error reporting if I get cron to work. [18:31] Urchlay: yup, it's on google code's site. [18:31] Phew [18:32] firebird619: I've got a large collection of ancient documentation that's out there on the web as pdf files [18:32] but they're the kind of PDF where every page is a giant tiff image, not text [18:32] OCRing them would allow copy/paste, search by keyword, and make the files *much* smaller [18:32] nice tiff images :) lol [18:32] so I've been messing with tesseract some [18:33] cool [18:34] lf4: What's nice too now, is my camera date codes every image with time and date right on the photo, that makes searching nice too. [18:34] the main problems I'm having: I can't figure out how to add words to its dictionary (e.g. "800XL" is the name of an old computer, when I OCR the manual for the 800XL, I don't want it to get confused) [18:34] wolven (n=wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined ##slackware. [18:34] ...and it doesn't handle columnnar layouts or embedded images real well (have to manually chop them up) [18:34] firebird619: thats a nice feature. [18:35] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.97.124) left irc: Success [18:35] lf4: Yes, it is. I would assume your SX10 would have that also. [18:35] probably I have yet to check out that function :) [18:35] Ahh, the joys of getting a new camera and getting to check out and discover all the features. [18:36] pity16_ (n=pity16_@p57AB79B0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:36] lf4: When did you get your SX10? [18:36] wolven (n=wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:37] wolven (n=wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined ##slackware. [18:37] last week on thursday :) so i've only had it for 4 days [18:37] pity16_ (n=pity16_@p57AB79B0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:38] Ahh, still has that new camera smell then. :P [18:38] Phew... passwords changed >< [18:38] person2 (n=ed@92.3.6.127) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [18:38] Haha yeah I haven't had the time to test it out yet to busy since this weekend was a nice weekend for working in the yard. [18:39] lf4: I just really can't believe I can't find those pictures though, that bothers me. I even loaded pretty much all the backup dvds I have for the past couple years which is the time frame I know I took them in. [18:39] lf4: Yeah, the weekend was nice here too. In the 50s and 60s [18:40] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:40] That is really odd, did you do some general search and see "This dir has a ton of photos maybe they are in there"? [18:40] Slax 7 has been released to devs [18:41] lf4: It is nice to know however that I have most of my pictures from the last few years on the HDD now and still have 261 GB of space left. [18:41] What size drives do you have? [18:41] lf4: Yeah, I looked through all the directories, thinking maybe I misplaced them or something, but no luck. [18:41] lf4: 640 GB [18:41] That's the space I have left for /home [18:42] Wow was that a TB dirve? [18:43] lf4: nope, 640 GB drive [18:43] lol /home just isn't used much i guess. [18:43] I have a couple other 120 GB drives, one's in my external hard drive case, and the other in the tower with my old /home stuff. [18:43] lf4: Well, /home started out with 500 GB partition. [18:44] anybody knows a decent RGB value for some orange? [18:44] slackytude: Yeah 565656 I think... [18:44] O_O [18:44] I need R,G,B [18:44] Hey slackytude. Your day going well? [18:45] I use 255,265,0 but Im not sure thats orange [18:45] lol sorry dont know why I went to HEX [18:45] firebird619, yeah, still ^-^. and yours? [18:45] going great. thanks. I'm just searching for pictures I know I have but can't find. [18:45] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [18:46] 255 69 0 [18:46] or 255 100 0 [18:47] lf4: I guess I need to implement a tag in Digikam that is "forgotten" and after so many days it puts photos in forgotten, that's probably where these would be right now. :P [18:47] hahaha [18:47] yes yes that would be the best :) [18:47] eh, should it worry me that they look all the same [18:47] slackytude: you a girl or guy? lol [18:47] lol [18:47] ;) [18:47] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:47] I just take one of those. looks more like yellow to me, tho [18:48] XDS2010 what is new in slax7? 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[18:58] kevin__ (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:59] hi I finally can run the fglrx driver and fire the kde as a root but it all crashes when I try to run some opengl aplication [19:00] wolven (n=wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined ##slackware. [19:02] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:04] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:05] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [19:05] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:05] way179 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [19:06] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-169-170.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] Heya,folks...How's everyone? [19:07] Hey MLanden. How are you? [19:07] Good for the evening,thanks...And how are you,firebird619? [19:08] I am doing great. Thank you. [19:08] Good to hear [19:09] here's the first one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjuOasyAFS8 [19:09] that's me driving [19:10] paul424 'dmesg|grep fglrx' [19:10] Action: nille_ gona watch nullboys camel ride [19:11] the second one will be up in a minute, it's longer but better scenery [19:11] cool footage,nullboy [19:11] thanks [19:12] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:12] would be an awesome project taking that footage and transposing it to stereoscope [19:13] mmm [19:13] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:15] what bike is it? an honda 250? [19:15] dbm (n=dbm@unaffiliated/dbm) joined ##slackware. [19:15] dbm (n=dbm@unaffiliated/dbm) left ##slackware. [19:15] yeah [19:16] 250 4 stroke [19:16] i thought so but it was abit hard to hear the sound [19:16] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) left irc: "link closed" [19:19] gotta love duct tape [19:19] the gods' greatest gift...:D [19:21] tell that to xibit :p [19:21] hahaha [19:22] nullboy: nice footage [19:22] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:22] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:22] ;) [19:22] what should i play with tonight now thats my camera is working [19:23] bbl [19:23] nullboy no noughty thoughts [19:23] nille_: so you got it working with digikam and kde4? [19:23] yes [19:23] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: [19:23] if you insert a device and it creates a ifconfig interface is that a function of the kernel module driver itself or something in udevd's rules? [19:24] it was an missing input in the gphoto fdi [19:24] nille_: Glad you got it all worked out. :) [19:24] kinesis: that is udev [19:24] it didn't recognise my device [19:24] o [19:24] so the reason i dont have ifconfig -a | grep rndis0 [19:24] is because udev ? [19:24] but it will in the next version [19:24] but the device doesnt show up in lsmod [19:24] i dont see rndis_host [19:27] why would that be? [19:27] supposidly this works ok in ubuntu [19:28] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:29] http://nille.pastebin.com/d592fc997 [19:29] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:29] ill show you guys a pastebin [19:29] maybe you can help me isolate how to get rndis0 device to show up under ifconfig [19:30] i never used synce [19:31] What is the make and model of the device,kinesis? [19:31] here's the second round: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk0EtQKvJfs [19:32] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:33] koolniczka (n=nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) left irc: "Leaving." [19:36] Gatto (n=Romeo~@host41-64-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:36] Floops (n=baihu@gw.tb.bb.floops.info) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:37] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-119-51.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:39] Floops (n=baihu@gw.tb.bb.floops.info) joined ##slackware. [19:39] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:40] i got rocked in that one around 8:25 [19:40] nullboy: that bike footage rocks. Is that a CR you're on? [19:42] SpacePlod: hehe it's a CRF 250 [19:42] 4 stroker ;) [19:43] You're lucky that truck didn't come to a full stop while you were in his dust. You'd have never known... 8-) [19:43] i never been to the desert :( [19:44] SpacePlod: yeah, that;s where i got rocked [19:44] he turned [19:44] beat him up! [19:44] I'm in the process of spec-ing CRF's and WR's for potential Supermoto projects. [19:44] i want a supermoto [19:44] who doesn't? [19:44] haha [19:46] If you've never seen it...this says it all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtLndbkoFMU [19:46] firebird619: thats a nice picture :) [19:47] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:47] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:49] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [19:50] lf4: Thanks. That was taken from WalMart parking lot in a town about 50 miles from where I live. [19:50] yht (n=yht@114.121.16.26) left irc: "I must go.." [19:50] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A7646E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:51] lf4: I had just walked out of Walmart and I'm always looking at the sky and clouds, etc. and I seen that and quick pulled out my camera and got a couple shots of it. :) [19:52] Thats cool, I'm planning on taking my camera with me all the time so I can also do that if a scene looks good. :) [19:54] Guys, would a device driver loading a rndis0 in ifconfig -a be dependent of the kernel module or udev [19:54] lf4: Yeah, my camera's always with me. The case has a belt loop so it's always on my belt within quick grasp. [19:54] ill put a pastebin up sorry i keep delaying that [19:54] brb [19:55] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [19:55] Nice the sx10 is a little large for that :) [19:55] also damn this kernel takes for fricken ever to load [19:55] Loading linux(thousand '.'s) [19:55] kinesis: whats with all the ~~~? [19:55] lf4: I have it with me now all the time because there were to many "Ah shoot, I wished I had my camera with me" :P [19:56] I have ventrilo running and i held my push to talk key which is F12 [19:56] Nick change: NaCl -> SpanishInquisitr [19:56] and accidently hit enter [19:56] Haha yeah i've done that before. [19:56] im playing Final Fantasy XI [19:56] bout to do Salvage with my linkshell [19:56] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.152.174.8) joined ##slackware. [19:56] lf4: Yeah, SX10 would be a little large for that, that's where a nice pocket-sized point and shoot comes in handy. [19:56] ...is dos2unix depracated? [19:56] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:56] so hot man im hugging my fan to stay cool [19:56] I can't find a download link [19:56] from googling [19:57] anyways im going to pastebin it now [19:57] kinesis: Ask before PMing a person [19:58] NEvermind, I found that the slackware version of "fromdos" [20:03] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host55-15-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "ciao!" [20:03] Nick change: SpanishInquisitr -> NaCl [20:04] bbiab [20:04] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-169-170.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [20:04] lotec (n=lotec@pool-96-228-178-93.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:05] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:06] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:06] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.168.251) joined ##slackware. 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[20:20] Pig_Pen: not in my house [20:20] good answer not here either [20:22] C geeks on livejournal.. http://udrepper.livejournal.com/20948.html [20:22] it seemed too quiet so i thought i would make some irc channel noise [20:22] Hi Pig_Pen. How are you? [20:23] just as soon as i can get a browser installed [20:23] good [20:23] hows it going on your end firebird619 [20:23] Pig_Pen another reninstall? [20:23] Pig_Pen: Going great. Thank you. [20:23] i installed Crux-2.5 in an extra disk partition [20:24] has a ports system like FreeBSD/Gentoo only easier to use than gentoo's portage [20:24] yarvin (n=yarvin@137.229.131.34) joined ##slackware. [20:25] yosii (n=yosi@71.143.168.182) left irc: "Leaving." [20:25] man i have not installed a new distro in a very long time. [20:25] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:26] witz (n=witz@unaffiliated/witz) joined ##slackware. [20:26] the only real gotcha is the mouse & keyboard wont work until you do a localedef [20:26] wont work in X that is [20:26] i see so many terminals all day, I guess i've just tried to slow down at home [20:27] i see wood trim in unfinished apartment buildings all day so a PC at home is refreshing, i bet if i had to do the same thing at home as i do at work it would get old really fast [20:28] i have installed Solaris but not realy alot to it. Just stuck it in VMware [20:29] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:29] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:30] yosii (n=yosi@71.143.168.182) joined ##slackware. [20:30] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:31] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [20:32] the other gotcha about crux (not as bad) is it does not come with a pre-compiled kernel, after you install you have to chroot the installed system and build one, they do include the kernel source and a default .config for that, but i selected a newer kernel version and did my own .config [20:33] is crux fast compared to slackware? [20:33] yosii (n=yosi@71.143.168.182) left irc: Client Quit [20:34] same same? [20:37] Necrosporus (n=Xenius@81.18.126.59) joined ##slackware. [20:38] about the same antler [20:38] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:39] you will find some similarities, like /etc/rc.d [20:39] Can I safely rm -rf /media/* && mkdir /media/cdrom ? [20:39] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-169-170.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:39] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:39] Necrosporus: why? [20:39] Necrosporus: "safely"? [20:39] as a matter of fact i copied /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 & its conf and rc.wireless & conf to crux to make setting up wifi a snap [20:39] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.152.174.8) left irc: "leaving" [20:40] I don't like so much dirs in /media [20:40] Necrosporus: bah [20:40] Pig_Pen: slackware was influenced by crux, yeah? [20:40] Safely means without breakink kde media manager [20:41] Necrosporus: i would say no not Safely [20:41] slackware is much older, i would tend to think the developers of crux was influenced by slackware & freebsd/gentoo [20:42] slackware is the oldest surviving distro to still be developed/maintained [20:43] What can be wrong if i rm -rf /media/* if grep media /etc/fstab returns nothing? [20:43] i think it's quite noteworthy that patrick made slackware when he was, what, 14? [20:43] media is used by dbus/hal/udev for automounting i believe [20:43] that's super cool [20:44] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:44] hey guys [20:44] Can anyone help me get rndis0 device to show up, i installed the usb-rndis driver [20:44] but its not 'picking' it up [20:44] Necrosporus: then do it man. Your the top of the sword. If it fails for you we will not do it [20:44] http://www.pastie.org/451890 [20:47] If /media/disk doesn't exists, it mounts to /media/disk, else to /media/disk-0 [20:48] s/it/my flash drive/ [20:50] Can anyone figure out [20:50] why I cant get a /sbin/ifconfig -a | grep rndis0 [20:50] http://www.pastie.org/451890 [20:51] kinesis: that is territory i dont venture in to [20:51] You haven't rndis0 interface [20:51] i just have a big ugly grey desktop [20:51] no [20:51] Its suppose to appear [20:51] the kernel is suppose to create one [20:51] but it doesnt look like the driver is getting loaded [20:51] i installed it and everything compiled without error [20:52] what file handles that? the assigning of kernel modules to device ID's [20:52] in usb [20:52] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.207.232) joined ##slackware. [20:54] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:54] maybe whatever handles that isnt "picking up" the device's id [20:55] Fried_Bob (n=Fried@c-98-233-149-9.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:57] usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0bb4, idProduct=0303 [20:57] what picks that up and assigns a kernel module to it? [20:57] doesnt look like its sticking [20:57] yarvin (n=yarvin@137.229.131.34) left ##slackware. [20:58] yosii (n=yosi@71.143.168.182) joined ##slackware. [20:59] anyone know about installing dropline gnome with 12.2? [20:59] kinesis: more super glue [20:59] lf4: I've found the pictures in an e-mail I had sent to my uncle. However, the folder of them seems to be missing. [21:00] LinuxyErin (n=erin@76.208.82.72) joined ##slackware. [21:00] i would figure out what makes slax usb build boot from a usb thumbdrive and import that method [21:00] dunnen (n=mike@ip98-166-14-105.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:00] FrEYEdBob (n=Fried@66.119.15.120) joined ##slackware. [21:02] yosii: #dropline? [21:03] error_de1eloper_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:03] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:03] FrEYEdBob (n=Fried@66.119.15.120) left irc: Client Quit [21:03] waiting for a response there too [21:04] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.207.232) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:04] Pig_Pen: could have something to do with the lzm compression slax uses [21:05] anyone have any older movie ideas? [21:06] looking for some movies to watch. [21:06] lots. genre? [21:06] year range [21:06] director [21:06] pretty open. action/comedy [21:06] 90 to 200? [21:06] erm 1990 to 2000? [21:06] ohh. 'that' old [21:06] got ghostbusters [21:07] haha [21:07] MLanden: naw, it has to do with how the kernel was built and its initrd (slax booting from usb) [21:07] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.207.232) joined ##slackware. [21:07] Pig_Pen:OK [21:07] just trying to think of movies. [21:07] Action: ananke was thinking cary grant, not macaulay culkin [21:07] lotec: 'heat' and 'ronin' do anything for you? [21:07] dumb and dumber! [21:07] lotec: have you seen SinCity? [21:08] antler: got those. got sinCity. good movie [21:08] Heat and Ronin are bad ass movies. love them [21:08] yeah awesome movie [21:08] sin city is 2005 [21:08] Got most of the Zombie movies. [21:08] i like that style, i hope some good SinCity spinoffs get released [21:09] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [21:09] lotec: then checkout 'american me' or a newer one with val kilmer 'felon' [21:09] Pig_Pen : 300, the spirit, etc [21:09] yosii (n=yosi@71.143.168.182) left irc: "leaving" [21:09] felon's pretty badass :) [21:09] Antler: seen Felon [21:09] 2008, though [21:09] yeah [21:10] lotec: there's carlito's way (I) [21:10] Have American Me just have not watched it yet. was saving it for next monday for plane flight back to NE [21:10] Fried_Bob (n=Fried@c-98-233-149-9.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:11] yosii (n=yosi@71.143.168.182) joined ##slackware. [21:11] 'jacob's ladder' ... was talking about that yesternight. 1991, i think. but that's more of a psych thriller [21:11] ohh, good god. he wanted an action/comedy :) [21:12] jacob's ladder is as far as you can get from those genres [21:12] yeah hahah [21:12] FriedBob (n=Fried@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:13] Jean (n=jean@93-36-229-49.ip62.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:13] what's next, 'eraser head', 'faces of death', 'itchi the killer' or 'cannibal the musical' ? :) [21:14] itchi the killer hahah [21:14] face off? [21:14] o found Killer Klows form outerspace today [21:14] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:15] error_de1eloper_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:16] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:16] felon, 300, the spirit, gotta check em out [21:17] and, of course, there's 'the fugitive'. but who hasn't seen that? :P [21:17] the virgin suicides [21:17] requiem for a dream [21:17] Pig_Pen: val kilmer was awesome in 'felon' [21:17] (note that I have no idea what genre you're talking about) [21:18] but do check those movies too [21:18] the fugitive is a good movie. just hbo/showtime/cina shows it way to much. [21:19] 'training day' is hardcore, but that's 2001 [21:19] i guess i should not of gave a date. i dont really care what year or what type of movie. just looking for ideas [21:19] LinuxyErin (n=erin@76.208.82.72) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:19] we can sit here and name movies from that decade for hours [21:19] way too many to list, homie. gotta narrow the parameters :P [21:20] I know dramas, mostly. [21:20] thumbs: virgin? where? *looks* [21:20] yeah, what he said :P [21:20] yosii: it's a movie. [21:20] just ideas. like whats your guys favorate movies? [21:20] lotec: those were my favourite movies [21:20] also, Blade Runner [21:20] yht|off (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [21:20] lotec: any woody allen counts as a favourite of mine :D [21:20] ey did anyone get at me on that [21:20] Blade Runner is fanatastic [21:20] i got a little help from dropline, finally [21:21] antler : damn, i gotta see 'the sleeper' now [21:21] Hey did anyone check my pastie [21:21] got wargames. [21:21] tron [21:21] http://www.pastie.org/451890 [21:21] What 'bout Johnny Mnemonic? [21:21] ananke: do you mean 'sleeper' (allen)? [21:21] can anyone tell me what to do to get the system to "pick up" on that and load the proper module? [21:22] Matrix trilogy is good [21:22] antler : i can't ever remeber whether it has 'the' in front of it or not, but yes [21:22] oh, i was doing several things [21:22] hitest. everyone has the matrix [21:22] ananke: yeah, it's good (heh they all are, imo) :) [21:22] person (n=ed@92.3.6.127) joined ##slackware. [21:22] lotec : maybe you need to start watching older movies [21:23] and by 'older', i don't mean ones from the last two decades [21:23] anyone? :( [21:23] im sure someone has to know what file picks up a usb event [21:23] ananke: well we can go back. but i stop at black and white :D [21:23] kinesis : are you going to provide even a single sentence to go with that? [21:23] yeah im trying to get my htc touch pro's internet sharing to work [21:23] its a module called rndis_host [21:24] bbl, dinner awaits.....meatloaf:) [21:25] Eddieeee!!! [21:25] oh, not that kind of meatloaf, nm [21:25] lol [21:29] ananke: well what old movies are we talking about? [21:30] lotec: he might mean "debbie does dallas" :P [21:31] or marilyn chambers' "up and coming" [21:31] hell i got all 32 of her movies :D [21:31] the girl from debbie...? [21:31] yea [21:31] i think she only did three [21:31] no? [21:31] of the debbie movies [21:31] oh, ok [21:32] your forgetting Back Door anal lovers [21:32] hahahah [21:32] and 2 fingers and a fist [21:32] rofl [21:32] lotec : i'm talking about movies from 60's, 70's, even earlier. heck, the one we mentioned earlier, sleeper, was from early 70's [21:32] wow. you Are a master of the genre [21:32] lotec: ^^ [21:33] i think we are in a golden age of porn =) [21:33] least for the jb/myspace/sexting aspect [21:34] and in a golden age you get double production value and extra income!! lol [21:34] acidkill not only double production but the other DP :d [21:34] lol [21:34] i'd suggest changing the subject [21:35] mmlj4 (n=jkelly@ip70-171-94-246.no.no.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:35] ananke: i have seen sleeper. good movie also [21:35] ananke: I'd agree, start another channel for that stuff. :) [21:36] lotec: oooh, ur good [21:37] going back even earlier, anything with cary grant is often a good choice. 'arsenic and old lace' is an excellent comedy [21:38] yosii (n=yosi@71.143.168.182) left irc: "leaving" [21:38] LinuxyErin (n=erin@76.208.82.72) joined ##slackware. [21:38] ananke: i have tried i just cant watch cary grant. [21:38] ananke: that was the coolest show ever ever seen in a theater [21:38] BULLY!!! [21:39] not that he is a bad actor or the shows are crap. i just dont enjoy them. and my mind wounders [21:40] lsa (n=user@72-160-222-22.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [21:40] yosii (n=yosi@71.143.168.182) joined ##slackware. [21:40] lsa (n=user@72-160-222-22.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:42] Carey Grant's Mother Goose is a classic! [21:44] a drunkard wandering around the Phillippines has a group of girl scouts tossed in his lap while the British Navy foces him in to doing recon [21:44] LinuxyErin (n=erin@76.208.82.72) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:44] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [21:45] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:45] yosii (n=yosi@71.143.168.182) left irc: "leaving" [21:46] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:48] Pig_Pen: you've seen it before, surely? [21:48] yes [21:49] the best line: "getting married? goody-two-shoes and the filthy beast?" # or some variant thereof [21:50] lotec (n=lotec@pool-96-228-178-93.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:50] Pig_Pen : hmm, neat, i'll have to see it. that's one of the few movies i don't have [21:51] ananke it is a good one if you like old carey grant movies (ww2 era) [21:52] my wife loves him, and i like most of his stuff [21:52] mmlj4: that is a catchy line [21:54] oops, the name of the movie is "Father Goose" [21:55] yeah, i had to use google-fu to figure that out :) [21:55] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058092/ [21:58] So we're ripping up our carpet in our living room today and guess what runs by the window? Some dude in handcuffs. Blew me and my wife away. Called the cops but by the time they came, he was gone. And guess who helped him? My next door neighbors. I'm glad i own a gun. [21:58] Dinde (i=kayser@81-65-176-209.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:58] Googtle (n=job@CPE-72-131-0-46.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:58] what do you mean by 'helped him'? [21:58] hi. is icecast the most trusted/prominent streaming solution? I'm seeing "pulseaudio" everywhere too.. I have no past experience with this, so I'll appreciate any of your thoughts [21:59] agentc0re: some fine police work there, lou ;) [21:59] Oh, sorry. Helped him escape. Got him in a car and drove away. Might have even got the cuffs off but i did see him with some towel or shirt over his hands. [21:59] pulseaudio is geared toward local sound systems. icecast is more for internet broadcasting [22:00] fantastic, thanks very much -- I needed a localnetwork solution, I guess I'll go with pulseaudio then. [22:00] agentc0re : ouch. you know, you could be held accountable if they find out that you knew about your neighbour's actions [22:00] Dinde (i=kayser@sur-internet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:00] Googtle : what problem are you trying to solve? [22:01] oh man, i am lagging :( [22:01] Yeah, that's why i'm regretting not nabbing the guy myself. Reason being is we called the cops anyways, might as well have caught the guy. Not much you can do in handcuffs. [22:01] agentc0re, make my internets faster [22:01] It really caught me off guard. [22:01] ananke: I'm running mpd on slackware machine that houses most of my music collection -- I want to be able to play/reach it on my windows machine, which is upstrairs [22:02] Action: agentc0re shoots the porns and spam out of edman007's tubes with the eel cannon. [22:02] agentc0re : be glad you didn't. getting involved like that only spells trouble. [22:02] Neighbors know we called the cops. Cops went to them and asked them if they saw anything and they said no, then drove off. [22:02] Googtle : i thought that there are mpd clients for windows [22:02] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:03] I think the fact that we called the cops got us as much involved as it would have if i would have stopped the guy. [22:03] edman007: Power cycle ftw! :P [22:03] agentc0re, wait...wtf? your neighbors helped a guy in handcuffs? [22:03] haha [22:03] agentc0re : that sucks. you're screwed either way [22:03] edman007: Ya, they're shady. [22:03] ananke: mpd doesn't stream music.. you can only control it -- to stream it, pulseaudio or icecast is needed [22:04] agentc0re, you live in a shady place? [22:04] Okay, picture this. I live in utah. Full of goodness mormons right? I've lived on this street for two years now and have had swat patrol it twice. [22:04] hahaha, wtf [22:04] I grew up in this neighborhood for christsakes. [22:04] Action: edman007 has never seen a swat vehicle [22:05] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [22:05] No vehicles. Just a bunch of swat guys in full tactical. [22:05] though i know about 5-6 years ago swat came to my town [22:05] Action: ananke has seen plenty of them, two years ago on april 16th [22:05] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:05] okibisan (i=0@24-158-197-146.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:05] yea...well whatever, never saw something that required swat [22:05] ananke: but, like you, I had been thinking that it could stream music.. wasted a damn hour on it too. oh well. [22:06] ananke, oh? for what? [22:06] Googtle : i forget what mpd can do, it's been at least 5 years since i've used it [22:06] edman007 : virginia tech masacre [22:06] ananke, are you crazy? [22:06] huh? [22:06] oh... [22:06] Action: edman007 is lagging [22:07] pong [22:07] --- Ping reply from ananke : 1.52 second(s) [22:07] it got better! [22:07] troopr (n=Unknown@210.211.128.220) joined ##slackware. [22:08] frullet (n=Bob@124-168-168-79.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [22:08] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [22:09] okibisan (i=0@24-158-197-146.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) left irc: "All the BitchX that's fit to print!" [22:10] Dinde (i=kayser@sur-internet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:11] this is crazy: 14 horses suddenly die, before a polo match: http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/19/dead.horses/index.html [22:12] Dinde (i=kayser@sur-internet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] lightning strike? [22:13] cause is still uknown. they just collapsed. [22:13] 7 on site, 7 more on route to a vet hospital [22:13] craazy world! i'm moving to another universe! [22:14] troopr: according to weather.com; local weather was partly clouded [22:14] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:14] i've seen a vid on discovery where this same thing happened to a football match [22:14] luckily all the players suvived [22:15] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:15] one sec there all running, next sec, they all fall down [22:15] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:15] it was lightning in that case [22:16] zap to the heart,troopr? [22:16] maybe! one could not even see the lightning! [22:17] just a faint flash [22:17] maybe the camera was not seeing at the right place [22:17] the ground was wet too [22:17] that didn't help [22:17] yosii (n=yosi@71.143.168.182) joined ##slackware. [22:17] LinuxyErin (n=erin@76.208.82.72) joined ##slackware. [22:19] those cool photos of lighting storms is probably taken when the storm was way off in the distance, if the storm is too close it will cause over exposure, and if you want to catch a lot of lightning on a dark night with a slow shutter speed [22:19] you are probably right [22:19] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.149.95.84) joined ##slackware. [22:21] Iceman_ (n=chatzill@58.169.45.199) joined ##slackware. [22:22] Will Slackware make me l33t? [22:22] Iceman_: no. [22:22] Iceman_: no [22:22] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [22:22] that lightning is nothing to mess with, when a storm get even in the same county i am in i shut off my radios and disconnect the coax and grount the hotside, once i had an antenna take a direct hit (antron99) it literally exploded and fibreglass splinters were all over the yard [22:23] Iceman_: slackware will force you to think about your actions, but nothing guarantees you leet [22:23] How can I become l33t? [22:23] wow. just wow. [22:23] ???? [22:23] Iceman_: by remaining at 14 years old? [22:23] Iceman_: first you have to travel to India to the Indus Kush region and climb the highest mountain [22:24] I mean l33t in linux hacking.... [22:24] thats where all the leet Linux gurus live, [22:24] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:24] I think your just a bit n00b.... [22:24] they sit on the top of the mountain with their thinkpad powered by slackware [22:25] Iceman_: think of yourself as such, and your maturity level will never get beyond that age. [22:25] Pig_pen: lol [22:25] if u c3n r34d 7h1z 7h3n m4yb3 7h3r35 h0p3 [22:25] thumbs i dont understand [22:26] heh. [22:26] and im 13 btw [22:26] Iceman_: obviously not, you don't. [22:26] hehe [22:26] Connection timed out [22:26] not 14 [22:26] Iceman_, i had problems with that, you have a grammatical error [22:26] and i use linux [22:26] Iceman_: we don't care. [22:26] cus ur n00b [22:26] you need 7h3r3'5 not 7h3r35 [22:26] u probably dont even no how to use linux [22:27] Iceman_: sigh [22:27] ok, ignore time. [22:27] bad troll. [22:27] this is hilarious [22:27] thumbs: beer time. ;) [22:27] Please dont feed the trolls... [22:27] i just fell off the turnip wagon yesterday and started learning Linux today, sheesh give me a greak kid [22:27] heh [22:27] BP{k}: no, too late. [22:27] BP{k}, share! [22:27] break* [22:27] BP{k}: I work tomorrow, mate [22:27] edman007: ah dam, the bottle of bishop finger is almost empty [22:27] thumbs: one beer won't kill you :) [22:27] BP{k}: it'll put me to sleep. [22:27] BP{k}, well then you are going to have to buy some more [22:28] thumbs, isn't that a good thing? [22:28] Most of us work tomorrow. That's no excuse! [22:28] edman007: I don't sleep well with a beer in my stomash. [22:28] edman007: nah, I'll just ask kethry toget more ;) [22:28] stomach, too. [22:28] BP{k}: hahah [22:28] BP{k}, well go ask [22:28] make here ship it over here [22:29] edman007: that's why they invented /msg ;) [22:29] *If you ask for it, she will bring it* [22:29] BP{k}, i see the typing, but not the beer [22:30] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:30] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [22:31] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:34] heh [22:35] edman007: all beer will need to be sampled before shipping out ;) [22:36] BP{k}, just have it shipped strait over here, i will forward samples [22:36] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [22:37] 0wned [22:38] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:38] heh, BP{k} you should rebottle everything with your pee after you've drank the entire bottle. Hope you like it skunky [22:38] agentc0re: .... that is just .. disturbing. [22:38] agentc0re can you tell me how to be l33t pleas [22:39] Iceman_ : drop it. [22:39] Iceman_: jeez [22:39] Action: edman007 hands ananke a /ignore [22:39] ananke ? [22:39] or you can just contact rworkman or alienBOB they love playing games [22:40] lol [22:40] agentc0re is l33t if he said heh because the l33t guide says how to [22:40] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:40] http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/l33t/ [22:40] Iceman_: can you stop trying to be leet, cause no one is going to help you in that regard [22:40] ananke is just a little nublet [22:40] God damn [22:40] I can't keep this up anymore [22:40] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:40] Sorry for bothering you guys [22:40] Iceman_ (n=chatzill@58.169.45.199) left ##slackware. [22:40] It's okay, we don't forgive you. [22:41] lol [22:41] ha [22:41] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [22:41] LOL [22:41] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:41] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:41] tell him that no one will help him, and he fsck's off [22:41] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:41] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.207.232) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [22:41] Maybe he went to join #topgun *shrug [22:41] did you guys go to that site he posted? lol its funny. [22:41] this reminds me of basketball. [22:42] i'm not a 1337 haX012...just a slack user [22:42] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:42] quote, "I swear if you guys call me that 15 or 16 more times, i'm outa here!" [22:42] Action: lf4 is so let he cant even spell it ;) [22:42] That guy was almost sad. What an unmitigated moron. [22:43] okibisan (i=0@24-158-197-146.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:43] anyone remember what module needs to be built into the kernel (or loaded via initrd) to be able to boot into a filesystem? [22:43] You have to admit those people are funny trying to attempt to act all "awesome" lol. [22:43] for example, if I have ext3, i need that and what's the other one? [22:44] i just can't think of it at the moment [22:46] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:46] greetings and salutations [22:46] hi andarius [22:46] okibisan: you need disk controller drivers too [22:46] okibisan: mbcache:jbd:ext3 ? [22:46] greetings andarius. How are you? [22:46] Salutations and greetings,andarius [22:46] salutations lf4 [22:47] salutations firebird619. i am well. you ? [22:47] lf4: I found those pictures I was trying to find. :P [22:47] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) joined ##slackware. [22:47] andarius: I am great. Thank you. [22:47] humm.. anyone ever use thc-amap? [22:47] salutations MLanden [22:47] howdy andarius. [22:47] salutations agentc0re [22:47] firebird619: really? thats nice lol have you uploaded a few of them in an album online? [22:47] ah yes, mbcache [22:47] that's what i was looking for [22:47] thank you! [22:47] wotcha andarius :) [22:48] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.96.155) left irc: "Leaving" [22:48] Necrosporus (n=Xenius@81.18.126.59) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:48] hi andarius:) [22:48] lf4: No, I haven't, but at least I found them. I seen some from that set in an e-mail I had sent my uncle. I then used the exif data to find the rest. :) [22:49] wotcha BP{k} :) [22:49] LinuxyErin (n=erin@76.208.82.72) left irc: "leaving" [22:49] lf4: I'll upload one of them like I have the others to show you. :) [22:49] canyouscore (n=canyousc@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:49] firebird619: oh nice :) glad you found them [22:50] lf4: me too. Now I don't have to wonder, where the world they went. [22:51] lf4: This set has more pinkish color than the purple and pink I thought it had, but still nice pictures imo. [22:51] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-10-163.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:52] d4n1h4ck3r (n=daniel@189-92-193-91.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:52] canyouscore (n=canyousc@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:52] d4n1h4ck3r (n=daniel@189-92-193-91.3g.claro.net.br) left ##slackware. [22:53] night folks:) [22:53] night,hitest [22:53] does SBo detect what version of slackware we're running? [22:53] night hitest [22:53] bye MLanden, lf4:) [22:54] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: [22:54] lets play a game, count the items. http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/l33t/382128_PinkFuzzyBunny.jpg [22:54] lf4: no - sbo just maintains the slackbuilds for packages [22:54] lol,agentc0re [22:54] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:54] evening Old_Fogie. [22:55] hello hello [22:55] :D [22:55] agentc0re: heh. who's the slob? [22:56] Hi Old_Fogie. How are you? [22:56] frightening thing about that photo,agentc0re is that if one digs hard enough one might find an altair or a heathkit [22:56] danc3: Who knows, some idiot though. [22:56] offtopic here, but anyone know how I'd replace the ` in `lexmark:libusb:003:004' using sed with a ' , it appears sed doesnt like a bactic ` or I'm doing this wrong # sed 's/`/'/g' scannermodel.txt [22:57] i thought my desk was bad. [22:57] firebird619, doing ok, but sed is beating me up :) [22:57] slackaholic (i=EasyScri@187-24-147-55.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:57] Old_Fogie: not too bad I hope. :D [22:57] zxh (n=red@218.26.164.24) joined ##slackware. [22:57] me too. [22:58] agentc0re: man I cant believe someone can even stand to look at that let alone be in it. [22:58] hello everybody [22:58] d4n1h4ck3r (n=daniel@189-92-193-91.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:58] dont know why the sane people didn't just put the ouput of the scanner the way the scanimage app wants it on the cli [22:58] hello [22:58] does sbdy here speaks portuguese? [22:58] oh yes [22:58] prodor (n=prodor@200.92.235.42) joined ##slackware. [22:59] Old_Fogie: Which Lexmark scanner do you have that works with Linux. None of mine do. [22:59] i'm of Alagoas! [22:59] d4n1h4ck3r i'm from belem-pa [22:59] Old_Fogie: s/\`/\'/g [22:59] firebird619, guess I'm lucky, it's a x1290 wich the sane people say doesnt work, but the wiki is wrong it works splendid [22:59] frullet, ok I give that a try :) [23:00] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [23:00] I have a usb disk, when I use ls, I can see a dir, when I use rm it say can't find this file or dir,can any one help me? [23:00] d4n1h4ck3r hey have you tried to use claro 3g ? [23:00] Old_Fogie: I'll have to keep that one in mind. I use a Brother MFC-240c A-I-O. [23:00] slackaholic cool [23:01] frullet, you are the man :) [23:01] slackaholic yes [23:01] Old_Fogie: :) [23:01] zxh, do a filesystem check on the usb stick [23:01] slackaholic so good [23:01] frullet, I'm gonna put this up on the slackwiki is that ok with you (since you gave me code) ? [23:01] Old_Fogie: yeh not a problem mate [23:01] d4n1h4ck3r: because i bought a zte modem but it isn't working in slack12,2 [23:02] d4n1h4ck3r: have u seen something like this? [23:02] frullet, ok, it's a bash script, calls up an xterm, says "prepare your scanner and hit enter" .. then it scans , increments of 001, and converts to jpg and asks for you to prep page two :) [23:02] frullet, works awesome :) [23:02] http://www.pastie.org/451890 -> can anyone tell me how to get slackware to 'pick up' on that event and load rndis_host.ko ??? [23:02] the stupidness is udev, you reboot, or plug in/out the scanner, the udev locale of your scanner changes, messes you all up [23:03] lf4: http://www.imgur.com/1qbe3a&1qbuN&1qbh, http://www.imgur.com/1qbe3&1qbuNa&1qbh, http://www.imgur.com/1qbe3&1qbuN&1qbha [23:03] Old_Fogie: sounds interesting, let me know when its up and ill have a geez at it :) [23:03] frullet, ok [23:03] Old_Fogie: I probably better check my lexmarks again now. Maybe there's some supported. :) [23:04] I just wanted a simple, put page in, scan full frame as grey/color 150 dots, autoname, no bells and whistles :) [23:04] slackaholic i'm use the 3g claro in the slack 12.2, work normal so fast! [23:04] firebird619, well ironically, the scanner works, but the printer does not. [23:04] firebird619, I'v read it's a z600, it got the binaries rpm from lexmark, just ain't had a chance to see why it fails, it should work, but who knows. [23:04] d4n1h4ck3r: so [23:04] firebird619: Nice I like the second one where you can see the road(?) :) [23:04] d4n1h4ck3r: this is the situation [23:05] Old_Fogie: that's sort of odd. You'd think if anything, the printer would work and the scanner wouldn't. [23:05] d4n1h4ck3r: i bought today a zte modem form claro [23:05] firebird619, I know it's strikingly odd. if I never get the printer to work, then oh well, I got the device (new) but from a yard sale for 10 bux. so oh well :) [23:05] even as a raw printer,Old_Fogie? [23:05] Action: Old_Fogie *loves* yard sales [23:05] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:06] MLanden, you know, I didn't think of that [23:06] lf4: Yeah, me too. It adds to the photo, but doesn't distract from it. [23:06] d4n1h4ck3r (n=daniel@189-92-193-91.3g.claro.net.br) left ##slackware. [23:06] d4n1h4ck3r (n=daniel@189-92-193-91.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:06] MLanden, I would think it should , will have to give it a try, thanks :) [23:06] slackaholic good night [23:06] Old_Fogie: I've got many printers from yard sales before. Nothing wrong with that. [23:06] good night everybody! [23:06] d4n1h4ck3r: i found a page teaching how to use it in slack . it told me to install gnome-ppp but when i try to connect it use my dial-up modem [23:06] firebird619, oh I go to yard sales all the time, I love em'. you'll never know what you'll find. [23:06] Riley (n=Blue@70.64.19.222) joined ##slackware. [23:06] can't wait, now that summers coming. [23:07] Old_Fogie: exactly, the rummage sale season so to speak is starting up here soon. [23:07] would at least give it some usability,Old_Fogie despite not being able to use some functions [23:07] slackaholic i'm use the enlightenment 17 and kppp to connect [23:07] Old_Fogie: Does the city your in have a city wide rummage sale day? [23:08] MLanden, yes I could see this really being a 'print out a quick copy of this man page, or web page, no photo stuff' type of printer [23:08] firebird619, we have 'block yard sales' at a time, it's *awesome* [23:08] youve heard of craigslist? online classifieds, better than garage sales, welcome to the future old man :) [23:08] slackaholic search in the google what you find. Good night! [23:08] true on that,Old_Fogie [23:08] d4n1h4ck3r (n=daniel@189-92-193-91.3g.claro.net.br) left ##slackware. [23:08] firebird619, sandwiches, bbq's lot's of people walking around, house to house, it's nice [23:09] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:09] Old_Fogie: Where I'm at, there's one day that's a city wide rummage sale day, those that want to have one sign up with the chamber of commerce, and there's sometimes 60-70 rummages in one day to go around to. [23:09] i waste a lot of time browsing my local craigslist site [23:09] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:09] Old_Fogie: Oh, that sounds nice. You just have to hope for nice weather. [23:09] oh that's aweseome :) [23:10] firebird619, yes, and here in Buffalo, we never know what Canada's gonna throw us :) [23:10] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [23:10] hamfest are nice from time to time [23:10] oh yea for sure MLanden [23:11] Hmm, my backspace key doesn't work in xfce's terminal. [23:11] Well, more technically in xfce's terminal + screen + irssi. [23:13] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:13] the inputrc file can help on that [23:13] in /etc firebird619 [23:13] are there any simple IP blocking applications that can use block lists from something like iblocklist.com? [23:13] Old_Fogie: Ok, I'll look into that. Thank you. [23:14] tho, you can do in .screenrc as well [23:14] Old_Fogie: I was working on my mp3 player still, I think I'm on to something, but not sure. However, right now, it won't turn on. :( [23:14] does screen do it in console? [23:14] firebird619, well that sounds like your progress got worse :) [23:15] Old_Fogie: heh, right now, yeah. It was fine 2 seconds ago. [23:16] Old_Fogie: umm, I'm not sure about console. I could switch to console and try it while still having x running, right? [23:17] yup [23:17] Old_Fogie: yup, it works there. [23:18] Old_Fogie: I think it works in other terminals too, like Konsole, etc. [23:18] Yup, works in Konsole. [23:18] mrxvt works. [23:19] eterm works. [23:19] So, just xfce's terminal has the issue. [23:19] huh, maybe 'loginshell' option? [23:20] tho, hackish, I prefer the full enviro any how [23:20] Old_Fogie: "Run command [23:20] oops :P [23:20] login shell is unchecked in Preferences. [23:21] when I use fsck to check my flash disk, it said can find fsck.vfat? what can I do? [23:21] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [23:21] KillerV (i=1000@bhe201062174005.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [23:22] zxh, its dosfsck (got changed, deal with it) [23:24] I use dosfsck, it said nothing, [23:25] this new slashdot page setup with the automatic more stories thing...not cool [23:25] I still can't delete a dir in this flash disk [23:27] what error does it give you,zxh? [23:28] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [23:28] I use rm -r to remove a dir, it said: cannot romove ',,,': No such file or derectory [23:29] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@pool-64-223-224-206.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [23:30] how hards it to squeeze in ext4 in an install you think? [23:30] when I use ls -li to see, the fils owner and size time are a ? [23:30] bhodgins: what? [23:31] bhodgins: -current already has ext4 options during install [23:31] omg, i hate bzr [23:31] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [23:31] I was planning on for 12.2 [23:31] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [23:32] edman007: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk0EtQKvJfs [23:32] so technicly... think I'd be able to install the kernel from current and the packages needed for ext4 then? [23:32] i got a connection, reasonable bandwidth of maybe 100kBps supported, and its taking 3+ hours to checkout gnash [23:32] nullboy, hahaha, i can't watch youtube, i need bandwidth [23:32] damn it man [23:32] i'm waiting 3 minutes for normal pages to load... [23:32] sidmario (n=sidmario@201-43-57-9.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:33] --- Ping reply from nullboy : 6.93 second(s) [23:33] :( [23:33] lol [23:33] hehe [23:33] CTCP PING reply from edman007: 4.594 seconds [23:34] edman007: You should just unplug your internets since it's not working. [23:34] i suppose you are faster... [23:34] edman007: You do that for everything else, why not this? [23:34] agentc0re, its not plugged in...school wireless [23:34] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-156.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:35] Classes still on spring break,edman007? [23:35] and i just clicked the little "add more" button on a form and it erased the whole form :( [23:35] MLanden, no.. [23:35] graduating in one month though [23:35] then going to FL for vacation! [23:35] There's your problem! [23:35] Nice. [23:36] cool... ext4 slated for next slackware ver? [23:36] it's in current [23:36] yeah [23:36] Besure to wear a geek t-shirt. It helps pick up the "take one for the team" chicks :P [23:36] i just read your comment above [23:36] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:36] Mlanden,can you help me? [23:37] I'll try,zxh...what's the make of your flash drive? [23:38] neonflux (n=quassel@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:39] I don't know [23:39] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-156.dial.telus.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:39] tuvok302-a (i=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-176.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:39] Nick change: tuvok302-a -> tuvok302 [23:41] Will it allow you to mount it,zxh? [23:41] yes, I mount it, [23:41] are there any tricks to speed up a connection through a DNS tunnel? [23:42] Can you cd to the mountpoint(i.e /media/disk),zxh? [23:42] cd, [23:42] yes, [23:43] use ls I can see the directory, but can't rm -r it, [23:43] do you have permission,zxh? [23:43] dhabyxc (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [23:44] jaguargt (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [23:44] dhabyxc (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:44] use ls -li, the dir show, 10783 d????????? ? ? ? ? ? runauto../ [23:45] slackaholic (i=EasyScri@187-24-147-55.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "EasyScript: 0% de gordura, Carboidratos: 24g, proteínas: 950g, Vitaminas AB e C [www.EasyScript.com.b" [23:45] I just want to remove it [23:46] I can see other file in this flash disk [23:46] and can use them [23:48] zxh, so rm it [23:48] might be u3 data [23:48] it said can't find the file or dir [23:49] what's u3 data [23:49] LinuxyErin (n=erin@76.208.82.72) joined ##slackware. [23:50] windows compression software for USB flash [23:51] how can I remove it [23:51] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:51] I am afraid it a virus, so I want to delete it [23:52] stef_204 (n=stef@71.99.147.74) joined ##slackware. [23:52] because it's name is runauto.. [23:52] Do you have the other data from it,zxh? [23:53] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-176.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [23:53] zxh, another option is to just copy the stuff you want, format it, and put them back [23:53] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:54] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [23:54] thanks,edman007...that's what I was 'bout to suggest..might be the only way out [23:54] Nick change: jaguargt -> dhabyx [23:54] Mlanden, you mean format it [23:54] MLanden, with FAT, its easier and defragments it too, plus no errors at ell [23:54] s/ell/all/ [23:55] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-234.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:55] LinuxyErin (n=erin@76.208.82.72) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:55] true...'secially if the folder/file is corrupted data [23:55] *'specially [23:56] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:56] actually, for reference... when inserting a usb stick into a modern windows box, does the old "hold shift to avoid autorun" still work? [23:57] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [23:57] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) left irc: "Saliendo" [23:57] dunno [23:58] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-161-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:59] LinuxyErin (n=erin@76.208.82.72) joined ##slackware. [00:00] --- Mon Apr 20 2009