[00:00] hardly [00:00] ybit (n=ybit@unaffiliated/ybit) left ##slackware. [00:00] dhw, you said still have fan issue? [00:00] yeah =( [00:00] it seems as if it's not working [00:00] I feel no air coming out of it [00:00] I would fix that first now you have a full speed cpu [00:00] yeah [00:00] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:00] or you will get meltdown [00:01] since it goes over 800mhz now [00:01] can't you hear it? [00:01] nope [00:01] hm I take that back [00:01] I can hear air comming out [00:01] just not like I expected [00:01] well thats it [00:01] let me check the temp [00:01] cell_x (n=cell_x@ip68-12-252-210.ok.ok.cox.net) left ##slackware. [00:01] ArmOrAttAk (n=armoratt@unaffiliated/armorattak) left ##slackware ("out of here"). [00:01] try echo n > /proc/acpi/ibm/fan with values of 1 to 7 [00:01] fire|bird: damn... is your head mush by now? [00:02] 74c [00:02] lol [00:02] ouch [00:02] agentc0re: nah, just about |--| <----that close. :P [00:02] echo 7 > /proc/acpi/ibm/fan [00:02] fire|bird: lol [00:02] dhw: yikes [00:02] -su: echo: write error: Invalid argument [00:02] I get that all the time [00:02] it wont let me write to it [00:02] hmm sec [00:03] echo "level 7" > /proc/acpi/ibm/fan [00:03] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:04] agentc0re: It sucks, now I can't even get into my laptop (Windows), and the reason the key didn't accept is because the COA on the bottom is XP Home, the OS installed is XP MCE (which is what the previous owner had installed). I have the MCE key backed up in the wpa.dbl file which of course I can't open to retrieve. :P [00:04] doh! [00:05] fire|bird: why do you want windows anyways? [00:05] livecd [00:05] then grab it [00:05] yup, forgot about those. [00:05] there are windows live cd's. [00:05] dhw, echo "level 7" > /proc/acpi/ibm/fan [00:05] agentc0re: I don't want windows on there, I want to use slack64, but the windows install from the previous person has some decent software (hence the image) that I'd like to keep around. :P [00:06] Grouper (n=root@ip68-105-173-2.ga.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:06] same thing =/ [00:06] Grouper (n=root@ip68-105-173-2.ga.at.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:06] as root? [00:06] correct [00:06] fire|bird: ah. [00:06] Grouper (n=root@ip68-105-173-2.ga.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:06] agentc0re: yup, I have a Windows Live CD made with BartPE [00:06] hello [00:06] dhw, does fan show in lsmod? [00:06] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [00:07] I'm having a problem. my soundcard is surround but i only have stereo speakers. when i play something that's surround (ex. hulu) i only hear, i'm assuming, left-front and right-front [00:07] dhw, and you added the thinkpad extras for acpi I guess? [00:07] so basically just music [00:07] i'm running current [00:07] let me check [00:07] I think I removed the ibm acpi support [00:07] ... [00:08] agentc0re: AH CRAP, I was looking on my camera because I had taken a picture of some of the Belarc Advisor output on the laptop, don't you dang think that I have the key on there, just not the whole thing because that's not the part I was photographing. ARGH. [00:08] I can't even find it in the menuconfig anymore [00:08] it used to be in there [00:09] IBM ACPI Support [00:09] dhw, if I were you I would boot up with the stock kernel and test fan. If it works, compile your custom with thinkpad stuff added. [00:09] dhw, if you try compile kernel or anything big without fan support could be bad. [00:09] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:10] yeah I know, I figured since I had the thinkpaid-acpi it was used to replace the IBM ACPI support [00:10] dhw, zgrep THINKPAD /proc/config.gz and http://pastebin.slackadelic.com it [00:11] fire|bird: just thought of a good song to take the moment where it should be. Pixies: Where is my mind. [00:12] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/8zSP2k25.html [00:12] agentc0re: hahahaha [00:12] dhw, that's fine [00:12] way out in the water [00:13] fire|bird: i'm partaking in where is my mind right now. [00:13] dhw, does fan show in lsmod? [00:13] fire|bird: just the song.. [00:13] antiwire: sinkin and swimin.. [00:13] only after I do modprobe [00:13] try this trick and spin it, yeah! [00:13] ok so after modprobe try echo "level 7" > ... again [00:14] argh, the VM of windows BSOD'd :P [00:14] did [00:14] fails [00:15] compmstr (n=corey@adsl-074-185-008-197.sip.clt.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:15] fire|bird, seeing your adventures with windows and vm these past weeks... you must be torturing yourself.. [00:15] fire|bird: looks like your pc tried the trick. [00:15] dive: haha, isn't any adventure with windows considered torture? :P [00:16] agentc0re: apparently. :P [00:16] dhw, ok - create a file: /etc/modprobe.d/thinkpad_acpi and put this in it: options thinkpad_acpi fan_control=1 brightness_mode=2 brightness_enable=1 experimental=1 [00:16] I'm beginning to think this venture is becoming a lost cause. :/ [00:17] dhw, actually you only need fan but the rest can't hurt (I hope) [00:17] I wish I had another laptop hdd and I could install slack64 to that and set the windows hdd aside. [00:17] dive / fire|bird yes it is! gawd, that's all i've been dealing with at work lately.. windows problems. [00:17] agentc0re: :), lucky you. :P [00:17] fire|bird: how large of a HD would be good enough for you? i have some 20's at work, that i think work.. [00:17] geoff_k (n=geoff@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust822.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [00:17] okay [00:18] dhw, when that's done: rmmod thinkpad-acpi and then modprobe thinkpad-acpi [00:18] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:18] k [00:18] now try the echo command [00:18] agentc0re: I'd need a big hard drive, I take a ton of pictures, rip my music cd's to flac (big file sizes), etc. The one in the lappy right now is 160G [00:19] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:19] oh you may need rmmod fan and modprobe it again [00:19] set [00:19] it worked? [00:19] fire|bird: i think by now spending the money is worth the future headaches. [00:19] set me check the output now [00:19] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:19] agentc0re: yeah, probably, I don't have a whole lot to spend though and I still want to get a wifi router, etc. too. :P [00:20] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:20] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [00:20] fire|bird, that laptop must have some _very_ good software for you want to not just wipe it clean [00:20] photoshop 3? [00:20] dive: Adobe CS2 suite [00:20] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [00:20] rofl [00:20] it did not give me an error to writing [00:20] fire|bird: cancel internet for a month and use the neighbor's wireless [00:20] arenics (n=arenics@unaffiliated/arenics) joined ##slackware. [00:21] but when i do cat /proc/acpi/ibm/fan [00:21] ok but did the fan speed up [00:21] it's still at auto [00:21] agentc0re: They don't have any. :( [00:21] you may need rmmod fan and modprobe it again [00:21] fire|bird: sucky. [00:21] ERROR: Module fan is in use [00:21] lol [00:21] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [00:21] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:38b) left irc: "Fui embora" [00:21] agentc0re: Is there a way to retrieve the product key from a Linux Live CD? [00:21] ok I guess thinkpad acpi is using it [00:21] there is also a level "full-speed" [00:22] this might be good tho [00:22] well 7 is full I thought [00:22] try cat'ing it [00:22] my fan script is working now [00:22] see if anything has changed in output [00:22] fire|bird: tbh, i'm not sure where it would be stored in the registry. but if you knew the key, yes. [00:22] it was not working early [00:22] dhw, tp_fancontrol? [00:22] the basic one to test it [00:22] dive: I know that I can do everything, if not more, in gimp and linux, but that software is nice ( I was playing around with it), and the closest I've ever got to ANY software like that is in my dreams. :P [00:22] prodigal1 (n=superdud@dynamic-216-211-51-59.tbaytel.net) joined ##slackware. [00:23] ill have to grab tp_fancontrol [00:23] dhw, goto thinkwiki.org and download tp_fancontrol it's great [00:23] or I can dcc you it [00:23] ? [00:23] agentc0re: yeah, I retrieved a key once on a machine from DOS, but I'll be danged if I can find the url to the site that said where and what the file was that had it. :P [00:23] getting it now [00:23] k [00:23] agentc0re: and now, I haven't worked with windows in so dang long that I can't remember. :P [00:24] fire|bird: well i know of tools that will get the key. [00:24] I have a newb questions regarding conky, anyone wanna take a minute and try help me out with it? [00:24] fire|bird: http://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder/ [00:24] fan.sh: line 201: syntax error near unexpected token `<' [00:24] fan.sh: line 201: ` read X Y1 Y2 Y3 Y4 Y5 Y6 Y7 Y8 Z1 Z2 Z3 JNK < <(echo "$THERMAL") ' [00:24] damn errors! [00:24] I once posted on ispreview.co.uk forum that I once had to use aol when I was on dialup, and that I had to format my hdd twice to remove it. [00:24] agentc0re: Yeah, that's a nice app, does it work though when you can't get into windows? I can't remember now. [00:25] and someone thought I was serious... [00:25] dhw, dunno that script [00:25] dive twice? lol [00:25] try <$(echo...) [00:25] it's tp_control [00:25] http://www.thinkwiki.org/index.php?title=Code/tp-fancontrol&action=edit [00:26] works here with no errors... [00:26] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:26] did you download it or copy-paste it? [00:26] agentc0re: haha, http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2009/08/10/easiest-way-to-recover-xp-and-vista-product-key-from-dead-or-unbootable-windows/ :D [00:26] could you put it on pastebin? [00:27] sure but you would be better off downloading it [00:27] I got it from their website and it fails [00:27] rather than copy-paste or get errors [00:27] fire|bird: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/product_cd_key_viewer.html this one will get the key remotely. [00:27] I'll upload it, one sec [00:27] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [00:27] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:27] patched dat kernel baby [00:28] agentc0re: cool, thanks. [00:28] dhw, http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/T42-acpi/tp_fancontrol [00:29] rworkman [00:29] well shit [00:29] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-1-194.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:29] I must be doing something wrong [00:29] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-75-244.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:29] when does rworkman usually join us? [00:29] lol I was [00:29] Quiznos: Whenever he chooses to. [00:29] does not like sh fan.sh [00:29] bunnier [00:30] bummier [00:30] dhw, try ./ [00:30] so what am I supposed to do with this script anyways [00:30] dhw, run it as a daemon [00:30] what script? [00:30] L=7->7 EC=07 RPM=3365 T=(90 64 42 90 _ _ _ _ , 55 66 80 , _ ) Z=6+6616____,466,_ [00:30] ./tp-fancontrol --help [00:31] that's what it just printed out [00:31] wth is that? [00:31] Quiznos, it's a fan control script for thinkpads [00:31] o [00:31] chopp: nice, I saw your message ealier [00:31] earlier* [00:31] dhw, ./tp_fancontrol ? [00:31] yeah [00:31] it's running in daemon modenow [00:32] ah it does I think print out stuff [00:32] shit [00:32] I have a newb questions regarding conky, anyone wanna take a minute and try help me out with it? [00:32] temp1 == 82c [00:32] Quiznos: Why? You going to ask him how his fam is? ;) [00:32] there is a -q option perhaps, can;t recall [00:32] agentc0re: hahaha [00:32] this is no good [00:32] dhw, that's hot unless you are doing a lot of work [00:33] aGENtc0re sure :) and about the slackbuild files; the total size of what he has. [00:33] I am not doing anything really [00:33] I recompiled my kernel [00:33] prodigal1: Ask your question and if someone can help and they fell like helping they might. [00:33] load average: 0.25, 1.32, 1.20 [00:33] dhw, I would _really_ suggest booting with a stock kernel and testing [00:33] yeah, I suppose so [00:34] then see if it is something in the kernel that is the problem [00:34] but, you said you heard of other T61 with same problem? [00:35] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [00:35] yeah, but they are more of it not working out of the box [00:36] and people having to work on getting linux working [00:36] like custom kernerls [00:36] when I use: "ls /var/log/packages | grep conky" I receive a notice that conky.1.7.1.1 exists but the command conky doesnt start it up, also, a conky directory showed up in my root folder '/', does anyone know why that directory is there or why conky isnt working? [00:36] people don't like to compile them I guess [00:36] i would be very suprised, thinkpads are very linux-friendly [00:36] google linux t61 [00:36] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:36] some are linux friendly and some people have a hard time with [00:37] but like I said it's more of people not knowing what to do [00:37] dhw, on the contrary _many_ slack users compile custom kernels [00:37] do you have /usr/bin/conky? [00:37] prodigal1: Do you have a conkyrc file in your home directory? [00:37] and how to get things working [00:37] I did not mean slackware overall dive [00:37] i dont have /usr/bin... [00:37] on Slack [00:37] I just ment with linux users, new people to it, they like ubuntu and such [00:38] You don't have a /usr/bin directory at all? [00:38] yeah this is true [00:38] lol nevermind [00:38] hi people [00:38] hi [00:38] hi thom [00:38] stupid noob mistake again [00:38] http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=33451 [00:38] prodigal1, 'which conky' should show where it is [00:38] okay going to reboot brb [00:38] oh crap 20 minutes early [00:38] and no I don't have a /usr/bin/conky [00:38] :P [00:38] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:39] and i get no conky when i use which conky [00:39] OK, sounds like an installation problem. how did you install conky? [00:39] i got the tar.gz [00:39] but installpkg wouldnt accept it, so i renamed it to .tgz [00:39] oh god. [00:39] oops [00:40] .tar.gz was the source...this needs to be compiled [00:40] Grouper (n=root@ip68-105-173-2.ga.at.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:40] like i said, still a beginner, my bad, i'll get rid of the package and intall the source [00:40] installpkg expects a compiled tarball with suffix .tgz(two different things) [00:40] Grouper (n=root@ip68-105-173-2.ga.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:40] compile the source rather [00:41] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:41] prodigal, if you are a noob, you might prefer to go to slackbuilds.org and use a pre-made slackbuild to make a proper conky.tgz [00:41] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@96.250.220.91) joined ##slackware. [00:42] Well at least the first step to becoming denoobed is knowing you're a noob. [00:42] It's ok [00:42] this will still require comiling on your box, but the script will make sure somesane configureflags are used etc (and you know someone field tested it so it'll work, or at least thats what they advertise :) [00:42] i think i'm going to do one of each [00:43] because i should learn how to compile from a tar.gz file as well as use a slackbuild no? [00:43] hmm new slackware security mail - someone's up late [00:43] does this make sense?: exec 2>3; exec 3>/dev/null; cmd [00:44] hiptobecubic (n=john@pool-173-65-85-6.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:44] prodigal1: The .SlackBuild does exactly that; it compiles from a source tarball and creates a package. You can read the .SlackBuild script to see what it does [00:44] prodigal i'm all for knowing many ways to skin a cat. the slakcbuild is basically a bash wrapper that automates the compilation process and puts it into a nice *.tgz that you can use installpkg on [00:44] ohhh, i gotcha [00:44] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [00:45] same can be achieved through manual compilation, so whatever you prefer... [00:45] prodigal1: If you are interested in seeing how to build programs from source tarballs you should pay attention to the sections in SlackBuild scripts that have the words configure and make [00:45] Quiznos, hmm dunno what 3 is [00:45] and why it can be exec'd [00:45] stder? [00:45] wait; no that's wrong [00:46] 2 is stderr [00:46] 1 is sdout [00:46] 1>2; 2>/dev/null; cmd [00:46] does SlackBuilds.org have a section on how to create .slackbuilds? [00:46] stdout [00:46] prodigal1: yes [00:46] does that make sense? [00:46] prodigal1: lots of good resources are listed in the /topic as well :D [00:46] prodigal1: and a template to look at too [00:46] Quiznos, almost [00:46] dive thanks for catching [00:46] why almost? [00:46] prodigal1: slackwiki.org has one as well i believe. [00:47] mrselfpw1 (n=nemesis@64.53.57.124) joined ##slackware. [00:47] Quiznos, it should be something like echo "bla" 1>/dev/null 2>&1 [00:47] alrite, thank you guys very very much [00:47] greatly appreciated [00:47] antiwire, bridge and tun/tap works very well, I compiled kqemu successfully [00:47] dive i want to turn off stdout and stderr before cmd [00:47] i [00:47] Thom1: awesome [00:47] Thom1: It's pretty fast too isn't it? [00:47] before command or for command? [00:47] i'll let you know how it works out for me [00:47] Quiznos, echo "bla" 1>/dev/null 2>&1 | nextcmd ? [00:47] prodigal1: yup. [00:47] antiwire, but when I launch qemu with kqemu, it freezes and I can't kill it [00:47] just use "cmd 1>/dev/null 2>/dev/null" [00:48] mrselfpw1 (n=nemesis@64.53.57.124) left irc: Client Quit [00:48] Thom1: I use kvm instead of kqemu. [00:48] or 2>&1 [00:48] antiwire, I can't, my pc is too old [00:48] I'm not familiar with setting up kqemu [00:48] Thom1, just modprobe it and run qemu usually [00:48] antiwire, and qemu alone is very slow [00:48] yeah [00:49] dive, I know but qemu freezes with kqemu [00:49] hmm [00:49] so i go back to vbox [00:49] yes 2>&1 sends it to /dev/null too (via 1's redirection) [00:49] any erros Thom1 ? [00:49] dive, just freezing [00:49] and i can't kill it [00:49] 2>&1 sends it same place as you send 1 [00:50] Thom1, ls -l /dev/kqemu [00:51] bah caffeine time [00:52] dive no; the syntax closes files to dev/null before running command [00:52] Quiznos, eh? [00:52] dive there's no data from the execs, to pipe [00:52] yeah [00:53] dive thge exec do work [00:53] but you may want to run another command after (I guess you could use ; instead of a pipe).. [00:53] i almost have my script complete to slurp-mirror sites [00:54] dive why? [00:54] dive, I already uninstall kqemu and qemu, but I have the rights [00:54] had [00:54] when cmd (wget actually) is complete; then it's done. [00:54] the only problem is that in dirs/{a..z} wget does the WRONG(tm) thing. [00:54] Quiznos, ok, now I know it's wget then it makes more sense to me [00:55] cmair (n=cmair@host56-111-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [00:55] instead of descending in to the a-z-dir, it tries to wget it. [00:55] dive ok [00:55] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [00:55] Quiznos, ftp or http? [00:55] mrselfpw1 (n=nemesis@64.53.57.124) joined ##slackware. [00:56] mostly http, but ftp for some like file archives/ [00:56] mrselfpw1 (n=nemesis@64.53.57.124) left irc: Client Quit [00:56] coffee [00:56] mrselfpw1 (n=nemesis@64.53.57.124) joined ##slackware. [00:57] Thom1, out of interest how did you install qemu/kqemu? Slackbuilds.org? [00:57] Grouper (n=root@ip68-105-173-2.ga.at.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:57] Nick change: mrselfpw1 -> slackpower [00:57] dive, my own sb with patch because kqemu SBo failed without this patch [00:58] Thom1, I seem to recall that freezing up is from using a kqemu that is incompatible with qemu version [00:58] slackpower (n=nemesis@64.53.57.124) left irc: Client Quit [00:58] I use qemu-0.10.6 with kqemu-1.4.0pre1 [00:58] so make sure you get the latest stable versions of each [00:58] yep [00:58] it was [00:58] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [00:59] Thom1, try qemu 0.10.5 with that kqemu [00:59] maybe later :) [00:59] The latest stable is 0.10.5 [00:59] They work well together on 12.2 [01:00] fire|bird, no, it's 0.10.6 [01:00] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [01:00] fire|bird, http://www.nongnu.org/qemu/ [01:00] Thom1, I did test to see which version kqemu would work with Thrice's qemu [01:00] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [01:01] 0.10.6 is in their git repo [01:01] fire|bird, http://www.nongnu.org/qemu/ : "QEMU version 0.10.6 is out (Changelog). " [01:01] slackware security update for the kernel, in case it hasn't already been mentioned [01:01] ViN86 (i=ViN86@VPN-NINETY-EIGHT.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [01:01] Thom1: cool, thanks, qemu.org doesn't show that. [01:01] find -empty [-print] -delete is very nice. [01:02] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:02] hoobop, yes we had a visitation yesterday from Pat :-) [01:02] nice! [01:02] sorry for the interruption [01:02] how's his fam? [01:02] np [01:02] lol [01:02] woot PatV graces real people? [01:02] wow [01:02] heh [01:02] lol [01:03] slack_fish (n=zxcc_119@119.48.142.224) joined ##slackware. [01:03] fish!!! [01:03] he snuck in when I wasn't paying attention [01:03] call me? [01:03] hi [01:03] what did you break now? :) [01:04] damn ST:TNG pre-empted [01:04] no working... [01:04] what? [01:04] i am working... [01:04] o [01:04] hehe. [01:05] do you go to bed?? [01:06] sorry , i don't know which country are you in [01:06] who needs a bed when you have a nice keyboard to rest your face on? [01:06] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [01:06] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.86) joined ##slackware. [01:07] do you buy a keyboard ?? [01:07] no, I usually download them illegally. [01:07] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Client Quit [01:07] :( [01:07] boardtorrent.org [01:09] Action: ViN86 calls KIAA [01:09] slack_fish i sleep; currently in Florida. [01:09] Action: ViN86 wonders if anyone knows what KIAA is... [01:09] slack_fish i do my best productivity during the night [01:09] good luck! [01:09] is it the Killamanjara CIA office? [01:09] ok [01:09] i tried GSB and i hated it [01:10] maybe i'll look better tomorrow at the office [01:10] dive: keyboard industry association of america [01:10] I was close then [01:10] should have named it the AKIAA: American Keyboard Industry Association of America [01:10] pupiteee (n=p@93.86.1.219) joined ##slackware. [01:10] like the ADAA [01:10] jeev: GSB? [01:10] or the SUAN [01:10] gnome slackbuilds [01:11] ahh [01:11] tv commercial CGI is becoming more difficult (not impossible) to determine. [01:11] thought it was some beauty product based on you talking about looking better at the office [01:11] -_- [01:11] they still have alittle bit of fuzziness tho [01:11] but theyir getting better at it. [01:11] Quiznos: is that the 480i or the CGI though? [01:11] duno [01:11] plain ole tv here. [01:11] ViN86, im the hottest thing on earth [01:12] jeev: i never questioned that... [01:12] lol [01:12] anyone know why i do no work during the day, then at 1AM i get a great idea [01:12] and work for 4 hrs? [01:12] ViN86 inspiration [01:12] ViN86, life is like that [01:13] i think it's cause i do my best thinking in the shower... [01:13] ViN86 it's God talking to you. [01:13] I can only hope... [01:13] good [01:13] but based on my lack of success [01:13] ViN86: depends on if it was a good idea or bad idea.. either way you can blame it on being drunk [01:13] ask him a question. [01:13] ViN86, I do no work all day and then at 1am I do none either [01:13] it's highly improbably lol [01:13] dive: I aspire to do that lol [01:14] quasar: i need to drink to do that though, right? [01:14] not necessary at all [01:14] Action: ViN86 makes a personal note: buy everclear... [01:15] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [01:15] http://imagebin.org/60161 [01:16] aw [01:16] hahaha [01:16] y0 twolf [01:17] thats a great pic [01:17] i wish i had my own theme song... [01:17] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "lick my waffle :o" [01:17] compiler id3lib need patch with gcc4.3 [01:17] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [01:18] fire|bird, got any idea on how to launch a frame automagically at startup, or even with a keybind? [01:18] ionwise [01:18] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:18] dive: frame? [01:19] but slackbuilds's id3lib Does not provide patches [01:19] ViN86, in Ion3 wm [01:19] oh ok [01:19] dive: Umm, F2 will open a terminal in the active frame, there is a keybind for opening a new frame. I would think that something like that could be set in a config file for it as well. [01:19] I can't remember what the keybind is though. [01:20] fire|bird, I've been looking.. can't find anything in the defaul bindings [01:20] what did you say? [01:20] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:21] slack_fish, I noticed a couple of mine need patching to work with gcc4.x [01:21] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [01:21] dive: Well, I had got my config ( I don't think I have it anymore though) for keybindings, etc. from rk4n3 when I first tried ion3. [01:21] slack_fish, best thing is mail the maintainer and ask if he has one [01:21] fire|bird, hmm haven't seen him for a while [01:21] dive: me either. [01:22] oh he's there -> [01:22] idle relay chat [01:22] dive: What I'd like to figure out is how to make it so that when you right click a tab or elsewhere, the menu stays there instead of goes away if you let go of the mouse button. [01:22] Thom1 (n=Thom1@79.87.102.10) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6.3" [01:23] fire|bird, same but according to dev it's never going to happen [01:23] although some people like Arch have quite a few patches [01:24] t4k3r0n_ (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.37.191) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:24] I also read that he refuses to support xft fonts - Arch have a patch for that - he says they are a blurry mess lol [01:25] dive: that's about the only annoying gripe I have about it. I need to get the fonts better though, like the term F2 launches, the font is way to tiny to read. [01:25] haha [01:25] nex0n (n=nex0n@142.167.88.29) joined ##slackware. [01:25] fire|bird, I changed F2 term to urxvt :P [01:25] looks fine [01:26] dive: yeah, I should do the same, I have urxvt set in Xdefaults to terminus [01:26] if you copy all the cfg_* files from /etc/X11/ion3/ to ~/.ion3/default-session--0/ you can hack as much as you like [01:27] although I've now put all mine in custom.lua file and just call that [01:27] dive: yeah, I'll have to do that, I don't have the config rk4n3 shared with me and so I have just a basic, default config. [01:27] fire|bird, I did put one up with keybinds and menu [01:27] on my ftp [01:28] http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/rcfiles/custom.lua [01:29] oh yeah, that's right. Had you told me that yesterday too? :P [01:29] yes I did :| [01:29] :] [01:29] haha, I've been busy with other stuff, I think I bookmarked it and thought, yeah, I'll get to that later. :P [01:29] I'm still playing with it though [01:30] there _must_ be a command in lua to open a frame... [01:30] I've been working on this laptop so much lately that I haven't done much with anything else. [01:31] fire|bird, yeah. Such a pain when stuff like that doesn't work. [01:31] I think by now I would have launched it through the window [01:31] drop kick [01:31] nex0n (n=nex0n@142.167.88.29) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:32] dive: haha, yeah, but it's WAY to nice a laptop for that. It's better than my desktop, that's pathetic eh? :P The speakers are awesome on it too, Altec Lansing. [01:32] any luck getting that code file with a livecd? [01:33] morning [01:33] dive: Just got done making a windows live cd with the software to get it, I'll try it once it's done burning. [01:33] y0 tewmten [01:33] moning [01:33] cool [01:33] hoi fire|bird [01:35] cmair (n=cmair@host56-111-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:35] bbiab [01:40] pode- (n=pod@201-95-165-90.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:40] ViN86 (i=ViN86@VPN-NINETY-EIGHT.MIT.EDU) left irc: "Leaving" [01:41] http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=15989 [01:44] hi mans [01:44] ron1n (n=ron1n@24.115.222.229.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [01:44] tije (n=tije@189.175.113.242) left irc: "leaving" [01:44] slack_fish (n=zxcc_119@119.48.142.224) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:45] slack_fish (n=zxcc_119@119.48.142.224) joined ##slackware. [01:45] juice, that's a nice site but I'm now fed up with having to side-scroll every page [01:45] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:45] rworkman ? [01:46] dive, hehe [01:46] it's an addicting website [01:46] it caused me to lose hours of getting work done at work today [01:46] I bet [01:47] and now it is causing me to get no sleep [01:47] i have to be up at 6am [01:47] almost 1am now [01:47] eeeeekkkkk [01:47] go to bed ffs [01:47] lol [01:47] heh [01:47] you need sleep to have the energy to spend all day browsing the web [01:47] i've had 4 to 5 hours of sleep several nights in a row now [01:47] aww true thanks for looking out for me [01:48] :) [01:48] heh [01:48] zzzzzzzzzzzzzz [01:48] just one more image .... [01:48] juice: just don't expect us to sing you a lullaby. :P [01:48] okay [01:48] hey fire, thanks again, got Conky all up and running [01:48] juice: I say that because then you'd have nightmares. :P [01:49] fire|bird: I appreciate the help [01:49] prodigal1: awesome. I'm glad it's working for you now. [01:49] http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=33400 [01:49] Where can you find a list of packages available through swaret? [01:49] hba (n=hba@189.188.154.226) left irc: "leaving" [01:50] wtf gun is that [01:50] juice: HOLY...... [01:50] nooper: that isn't a gun, it's the turret off a tank. :P [01:50] mannynix (n=mannynix@201.164.97.243) left irc: "leaving" [01:52] john_dee (n=id@93-81-141-88.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:52] nooper: either way though, I won't get in that guy's way. [01:52] what is network of slackware-br ? [01:52] http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=33349 [01:52] 50 cal by the look of it [01:53] pode- (n=pod@201-95-165-90.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [01:54] http://www.military-page.de/waffen/mk/gau8/bild_gau8_02.jpg [01:54] ezrafree (i=ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left ##slackware. [01:54] http://ohermenauta.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/gau-8_meets_vw_type_12.jpg [01:54] GAU-8 Avenger [01:54] search youtube for this gun [01:54] it is the gun of guns [01:55] juice: good grief [01:55] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.86) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:55] that other guy wouldn't stand a chance against that gun, what ammo does that have. :P [01:55] heh [01:55] bigger than .50 cal [01:55] by a landslide [01:55] let me guess, it shoots rpg's? :P [01:55] hey the latest terminator movie had that gun. it sounded great [01:56] 30mm cannon [01:56] anyone know if there is a list of packages available with swaret?? [01:56] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.86) joined ##slackware. [01:56] The A-10 is literally built around its 30-mm GE GAU-8 Avenger seven barrel cannon, the most powerful gun ever fitted to an aircraft of this class. It was designed for high ... [01:56] juice, i meant 50mm [01:56] http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2100112746487746502&ei=uJOLSq3KDYygqQOS2ZSICQ&q=GAU-8+Avenger&hl=en&client=firefox-a [01:56] its late/early [01:56] okay [01:56] np [01:56] i understand :) [01:57] 6:57am :O [01:57] bed? what bed? [01:57] 00:57 here. :) [01:57] fire|bird: I dont mean to be a bother, but do you know if there is a list of programs and packages available through swaret? or is it mostly a guessing game? [01:58] GAU-8 Avenger why I am proud to be American [01:58] :) [01:58] prodigal1, http://slackbuilds.org [01:58] dive: haha, the windows logo on the live cd is black and yellow. [01:58] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:58] prodigal1: No, sorry, I've never used swaret. [01:58] dive: so mostly all the slackbuilds are available through swaret? [01:59] prodigal1, nope [01:59] eww swaret [01:59] they are through sbopkg though [01:59] prodigal1, do not use swaret [01:59] swaret is DEAD [01:59] he asked about swaret [01:59] haha, well that's enough I needd to hear [01:59] prodigal1, most of us would avoid downloading precompiled packages like the plague [01:59] and your slackware will be dead too [01:59] feels like every questions i ask is enough to get me in trouble [02:00] going to be chased out of town soon :P [02:00] the answer is "i don't know how to do what you want in swaret but i recommend..." [02:00] prodigal1, avoid swaret, slapt-get, or those dodgy websites with precompiled packages [02:00] linuxpackages [02:00] okay, thank you very much [02:00] build everything from source [02:01] w/ slackbuilds [02:01] prodigal1, sbopkg.org [02:01] dive, what is that? [02:01] _after_ you have one slackbuild under your belt so you know what's happening [02:02] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:02] prodigal1, it's an app to download and install slackbuilds and source and compile/install [02:02] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [02:02] am i wrong in liking to run a server OS as a workstation? [02:02] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [02:02] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-75-244.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:02] beautiful, thanks a lot dive [02:02] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:04] prodigal1, you also might want to check out #slackbuilds and #sbopkg too if you need specific help on anything [02:04] dive, i installed conky, it's working now, just trying to configure the thing [02:05] pupiteee (n=p@93.86.1.219) left irc: "Leaving." [02:06] yeah conky is a nice app [02:07] pouet :) [02:07] come again? [02:07] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-137-69.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:07] and good morning [02:08] :) [02:08] you're english, right? [02:08] (or a native english speaker) [02:08] yes [02:09] or should I say aye [02:09] robby workman, robby workman? (Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman?) [02:09] heh [02:09] if you dont knw that ref, then you're too damn young to be here :) [02:10] sounds like an american thing [02:10] dive, it's more like a sound, probably what a child would say if he pressed a klaxon [02:10] it is; 1970s late evening sitcom-soap. [02:10] a ground breaker too [02:11] mary was a dysfunctional adult with familial problems etal [02:11] name does sound familiar [02:11] nods good; you're old enuf then :) [02:11] lol [02:12] do you remember the wave of the voice calling her name? [02:12] slack_fish (n=zxcc_119@119.48.142.224) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:13] nope I don't know the prog at all - just heard of the name [02:13] ok [02:14] the lilt was: (each dot for low, - for mid voice and ~ for high voice [speaking]: ,,`- ,,`- [02:14] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:15] slack_fish (n=77308ee0@c-76-25-156-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:15] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:15] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [02:16] Nick change: jigpe_ -> jigpe [02:16] Thom1 (n=Thom1@10.102.87-79.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [02:16] dive: doesn't look like this is going to work, it won't let me specify the directory path for system32, it has it's own set. [02:17] :/ [02:17] fire|bird: what's the prob? [02:18] Camarade_Tux: Windows, enough said? :P Nah, I have been trying to image my laptop hdd to use in a VM (windows xp mce), I used sysprep and now the laptop asks for a product key and so I'm trying to recover that from the latop because the COA on the bottom is XP Home. [02:19] dive: I have an idea though. [02:19] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [02:19] linux livecd, mount drive, copy file to something that can read it? [02:20] what did you say you saved it in? [02:20] fire|bird: rockxp? [02:20] (if you boot on windows) [02:20] s/you/you can/ [02:20] fire|bird: also, why image, sysprep and everything? hardware profiles could have worked [02:21] Camarade_Tux: I'm on a Windows Live CD atm (from UBCD4Win) [02:21] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:21] Camarade_Tux: This install (from the previous owner) has some nice software on it that I was hoping to keep around. I wanted to do that before installing slack64 on it. [02:21] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89A7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:22] dive: The file with the key is wpa.dbl [02:22] y0 slackytude [02:22] what is a .dbl? [02:22] elderK (n=elderK@222-152-99-143.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: [02:22] double :D [02:22] morning slackytude :) [02:22] fire|bird: ok, I see [02:22] Action: dive shoots Camarade_Tux in the foot [02:22] dive: a wonderful microsoft format encrypted with RC4, whatever that is. [02:23] why did you save it like that and not .txt? [02:23] dive: no choice, the program I ran it in backs it up as that file, which is the original format that is on the hdd to begin with. [02:23] dive: that was my hand! ='( [02:23] rc4? /me smiles [02:24] If I'd have been smart, I'd have just retrieved the key and wrote it down. :P [02:24] Camarade_Tux: yeah, rc4 encryption [02:24] oh well, time to ditch the bitch and install slack on it [02:24] I'm trying something now that I think will work. [02:24] s/encryption/hash/ [02:24] Action: fire|bird smiles [02:24] fire|bird: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RC4#Security [02:24] dive: yeah, I know. :P [02:24] Camarade_Tux: :O, thanks. [02:25] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.135) left irc: "Leaving" [02:25] bohunm (n=mbohun@203.171.192.135) left irc: Client Quit [02:26] WOOOOOOT, my idea worked. [02:26] well, you probably won't try to break it just to retrieve that key but anyway, it's good to know ;) [02:26] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.135) joined ##slackware. [02:26] morning people [02:26] Camarade_Tux: yeah, I don't need that now anyway, but thanks for that link. [02:26] y0 fire|bird, Camarade_Tux [02:26] slackytude: how goes? [02:26] moning slackytude [02:26] fire|bird, Im at work but otherwise fine. How do you do? [02:26] y0 dive [02:26] slackytude: doing excellent, thanks. [02:27] fire|bird, got slack on yer laptop yet? [02:27] :P [02:27] slackytude: not yet, but I think I'm getting closer. [02:28] slack_fish (n=77308ee0@c-76-25-156-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:28] dive: I WROTE it down this time. :P [02:28] agentc0re: Got the key using UBCD4Win live cd. :) [02:29] fire|bird, now you can get back to the umpteenth vm image failure? [02:29] :P [02:29] dive: hahaha, actually, I still have an image on here in vm form that I think is still viable. [02:29] jeev (n=email@99-189-106-245.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:30] well let's just see shall we? [02:30] heh [02:30] lol, we shall, yes. [02:30] jeev (n=email@99-189-106-245.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:30] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [02:31] slackytude: how hot is it in germany? [02:31] dive: seriously though, this UBCD4Win is a really nice cd, has a ton of different apps on it. [02:32] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [02:33] fire|bird, hmm... go on, go on [02:33] linkage? [02:33] anyone know whether audacious is included in SW 12.2 or if there exists a good slackbuild of it? [02:33] prodigal1, included [02:33] great [02:34] fire|bird: :) (drivepacks.net :) ) [02:34] dive: http://www.ubcd4win.com/ [02:34] we should still call it Win UBCD ;) [02:34] Camarade_Tux: wow, two links in one night so far, don't strain your googling fingers. :P [02:34] fire|bird: no google :P [02:35] Camarade_Tux, supposed to be the hottest day today. but not hot yet [02:35] Camarade_Tux: Oh, Mr. Fancy remember links on his own. [02:35] slackytude: yeah, pretty cool here currently but the sun is rising and has just started to hit my house =/ [02:36] fire|bird: I got slightly involved in the driverpacks and used them for yaxm :) [02:36] Camarade_Tux: cool. [02:36] bbiab [02:47] Camarade_Tux, oh noes! run away! [02:48] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [02:49] slackytude: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catacombs_of_Paris :) [02:49] no internet there though [02:50] got some catacombs in this city here as well [02:50] probably not as big tho [02:52] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:52] yht (n=yht@114.123.117.111) joined ##slackware. [02:52] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [02:53] dive: Well, I'm back in on the laptop now. :P [02:53] nice one [02:56] dive: I don't know what exactly services.exe does ( I haven't looked it up yet ), but it's driving my firewall on windows absolutely bonkers. [02:56] fire|bird, it does everything [02:56] services.exe? pwned? :D [02:56] dive: yeah, I figured so, the firewall is popping up ever couple seconds or so to allow it. :P [02:56] fire|bird, just grab what you need and get out ;-) [02:57] fast!! [02:57] haha [02:57] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) joined ##slackware. [02:57] dive: I'm gonna try with the VM now too and see if I have success. [02:59] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:00] dive: Argh, I remember why I couldn't get this VM working, anytime I hit any key on the keyboard, the mouse and keyboard freeze in the vm. :P [03:00] yes I recall that [03:01] Camarade_Tux: Know how to fix that? :P [03:01] rm? :D [03:02] oh, not for services.exe :) [03:02] Camarade_Tux: haha, no, the freeze issue [03:03] fire|bird: iirc windows drops drivers for any hardware which isn't on the current computer [03:03] Camarade_Tux: This is after having sysprepped the laptop hdd before making this image. [03:03] fire|bird: you could try to go to device manager, "uninstall" most hardware, halt and prepare from that [03:03] fire|bird, that reminds me [03:03] Camarade_Tux: and the mouse works great until I hit a key on the keyboard. [03:04] I've never used sysprep, only read the doc a bit but nlite was much better for my use [03:04] fire|bird, have you looked at VMWare converter? [03:04] Skaperen_ (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:04] slackytude: yeah, I used that, that's what gave me the best result so far. [03:04] fire|bird: well, it's windows, do everything with the mouse :D [03:04] fire|bird, its free (sortof) and will convert many formats to VM's [03:04] ah, ok [03:04] Camarade_Tux: that doesn't work when you need to type a product key. :P [03:05] slackytude: yeah, it worked excellent, just having issues with the image from it in a VM. :P [03:05] save the key in a text file, open, select, right-click, copy, change window, right-click, paste? [03:06] Camarade_Tux: I'm not even to a Desktop yet with it. :P What sysprep does is prepare the system for migration to another system (in my case, a VM). [03:06] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:07] one last question of the night for all you helpful people out there, now that i know not to use Swaret, how do i uninstall it from my system?? [03:08] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-137-69.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:08] removepkg swaret [03:08] if u installed it from pkg [03:09] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:09] morn fire|bird [03:10] prodigal1 how did you install it? [03:10] hi Quiznos [03:10] i believe i installed it via installpkg [03:10] twolf_ (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [03:11] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [03:11] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:12] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:13] fire|bird: oh, didn't know it did migration [03:14] Camarade_Tux: yup, it does. It prepares the system for migration, etc. [03:14] arenics (n=arenics@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: "ty :)" [03:15] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [03:15] fuck man i suggested a shopping cart for my friend [03:16] there are updates made but the guy never has a changelog [03:16] so many sql changes, i dunno what to do [03:18] one at a time; or move on. [03:18] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [03:20] how come 12.1 doesn't get a kernel update? [03:20] why? [03:21] yes, why? why doesn't 12.1 not get a kernel update? [03:21] nooper: it has a package to patch the kernel in patches/ [03:21] fire|bird: its not a kernel patch [03:21] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:22] john_dee (n=id@93-81-137-227.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:22] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) joined ##slackware. [03:22] nooper: no, I mean: what change do you want? [03:23] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:24] nargon (i=mike@217.194.139.22) left ##slackware. [03:24] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:24] Camarade_Tux: the null point dereference that came out recently, http://slackware.com/security/viewer.php?l=slackware-security&y=2009&m=slackware-security.877234 [03:26] nooper: oh, sorry. I must have misread the e-mail I got. :P [03:27] nooper: yup, misread, sorry about that: Additionally, we have added a package to the /patches directory for Slackware 12.1 and 12.2 that will set the minimum memory page that can be mmap()ed from userspace without additional privileges to 4096. [03:27] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Success [03:30] yht (n=yht@114.123.117.111) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:32] fire|bird i'm on 12.1/.2 here, is that someth i should be concernd about? [03:33] so a mmap req for a kernelpage of 4k wil always succeed? [03:33] hmmm, compile tun/tap out? [03:33] blacklist the module? [03:33] nah [03:33] leave it alone [03:33] bah, brother must be p2p-sucking [03:33] Quiznos: Well, I don't know all the specifics of it, but it is a security related issue. [03:33] dive: \o/, got the VM going too. :) [03:33] dont know how it can be [03:33] but the fix was to allow req? [03:34] on 12.1, the fix will stop mmap from allocating page 0 [03:34] o [03:34] ok [03:35] wait [03:35] does that mean refuse page[0]? [03:35] slack_fish (n=77308ee0@c-76-25-156-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:35] Camarade_Tux: I got the VM freeze issue out of the way. I just told VBox to take control of the mouse and keyboard. :P [03:36] i know about page tables so i kinda get where this is going in terms of c-coding [03:36] but even on page[0] there would ONLY be one address with address 0 [03:36] fire|bird: good boy : p [03:37] Camarade_Tux: So, I don't have to worry about that now, man I've been trying to get a working image of the hdd for days now. [03:38] fire|bird: my karma will solve it all :) [03:38] lol [03:38] fire|bird: what software did you want to keep btw? [03:38] Camarade_Tux: It has Adobe CS2 Suite. :P [03:38] :D [03:38] tried to just copy the adobe folder ? :D [03:39] Camarade_Tux: so you said earlier you were in a hotel and no access, etc. You were on vacation? [03:39] Camarade_Tux: yeah, no luck. [03:39] Camarade_Tux: I tried even installing a Trial of it and entering the serial #, and it rejected it. :P [03:40] fire|bird: yeah, turkey, and the computer I'm sshr+irssi'ying through went down right after my departure ='( [03:40] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.216.68) joined ##slackware. [03:40] Camarade_Tux: Aside from that, did you have a good time? [03:40] =) [03:40] fire|bird: yeah :) [03:40] good to hear [03:40] read almost 2000 pages :D [03:40] Everyone needs a little vacation now and then. :P [03:41] yep [03:41] 2000? wow, that just one book? :P [03:41] I was on internet cure :D [03:41] :) [03:43] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. 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[04:54] Vatin (n=chatzill@ppp-58-11-88-191.revip2.asianet.co.th) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]" [04:55] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426474.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:55] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426474.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:56] anyone got experience with GPT + slack{ [04:58] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [04:59] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:59] dont have a problem.. but looking for initial thoughts [05:01] gpt? [05:01] ok, gonna make a clutter slackbuild [05:02] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-uuklrdqncyekndwe) joined ##slackware. [05:03] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:07] googling for alienbo* always gives interesting results... http://content.ytmnd.com/content/d/c/d/dcd34df98d4359ad881efa4d0b87c238.jpg >< [05:09] wtf [05:18] btw, new desktop (well, only the conky part) http://omploader.org/vMjZmZQ/new_desk.png [05:19] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [05:20] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:21] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [05:22] Camarade_Tux, trying pout ion3: http://omploader.org/vMjZldA [05:23] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: "Leaving" [05:24] er out [05:25] dive: how did you get the chan list on the top ? [05:25] advanced window list script [05:25] thanks :) [05:25] np [05:25] dive: hmm, nice, reminds me I should customize irssi [05:26] yeah always useful [05:29] i dont really have enough screen size to tile terminals [05:31] is that xmonad Camarade_Tux? [05:31] Camarade_Tux, thats ion? [05:32] i like the setup [05:32] mrselfpwn, slackytude, it's openbox, no tiling window manager [05:32] ah, openbox is nice [05:32] how did you make it to tile, then? or did you arrange by hand? [05:33] I do it by hand/by default setting: the placement defaults to as upper-left as possible [05:33] my favourite is pekwm (no tiling wm) [05:36] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-uuklrdqncyekndwe) left ##slackware. [05:38] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-uuklrdqncyekndwe) joined ##slackware. [05:42] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [05:44] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.25.171) joined ##slackware. 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[06:10] hi [06:10] i am on a slax distribution and i want to autostart something in my default runlevel [06:11] is a ip_forwarding enough to share inet on other box [06:11] but in /etc/initttab its just saying "id 3 :initdefault" [06:11] x1user, you would probably also need dns [06:11] i got 2 lan cards on this one for the inteconnection, other is that i want to use to link the other boxx [06:12] i should set the same dns on the both boxes? [06:13] yep [06:13] same dns on both [06:13] on this i got eth0 for internet nad eth3 for sharing, on the other i should set the eth3 adress as a gateway? [06:19] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@96.250.220.91) left irc: [06:20] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1176016539.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [06:21] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:22] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:22] hmm hope this helps http://www.slackware.com/config/init.php [06:22] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [06:24] well now i set eth3 192.168.0.1 and the others box eth0 to 192.168.0.2 [06:24] i got ping [06:24] set also the dnsservers but no net [06:25] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.44.206) joined ##slackware. [06:26] x1user, chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.ip_forward [06:26] i ve run it with sh [06:26] and whats the problem now? [06:27] no net on the box that i want to share internet [06:27] how is your setup? can you ping the slack box from the machine? [06:28] yes [06:28] and can you ping google? [06:29] by ip [06:29] didnot tried [06:29] only by domain [06:29] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Client Quit [06:29] i will try now [06:29] box1(eth0 for inet eth3 for sharing) box2(eth0 for internet) [06:30] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) joined ##slackware. [06:31] and did you setup the slack box as gateway? [06:31] oh i forgot ifconfg device gw addres? [06:33] hm? [06:33] how to set the gateway via route ? [06:33] or with ifconfig [06:36] http://homepage.smc.edu/morgan_david/vpn/assignments/ifroute-assgt.htm i will try this now [06:36] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [06:38] set gateway on client [06:38] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:42] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:42] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. 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[07:09] Good news: New servers compile -current-generic-64 kernel in 9m18s (-j11) [07:10] Bad news: the backup machine died while doing a BBU charge test and will not switch back on [07:11] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:11] Reav__ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [07:11] urk. [07:13] fun! [07:14] I am trying to install new kernel package for security reasons. I have the mkinitrd package installed but I am not sure whether I am using it or not. How can I confirm this? [07:15] nick4, check your lilo.conf [07:15] Nothing with "init" in there [07:16] then you dont [07:16] hugesmp doesn't need initrd eh? [07:17] no [07:17] nup :) [07:18] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-dyxotmklwulddlok) joined ##slackware. [07:18] okey :) [07:18] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [07:19] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [07:20] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.45) joined ##slackware. [07:27] nick4: but you shouldn't really use hugesmp for daily use. [07:28] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:30] BP{k} why not? [07:31] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.44.206) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:31] I want a mobo with freebios in it, so I can boot up in 5 sec or less... [07:32] That would be sweet. [07:32] or not :) [07:33] Camarade_Tux, it's theoretically possible to do it without a payload in your bios. I read this article on /. once. [07:33] linux takes a *long* time to probe sata drives^W*ports* [07:33] bah, I made <8s on my laptop (slow disk), but from bios to console [07:33] dang. [07:33] to X should be faster with kms now [07:34] slack_fish (n=slack_fi@59.72.110.45) left irc: "‚»" [07:35] hba (n=hba@189.188.154.133) joined ##slackware. [07:35] hi all, gm :) [07:35] I was surprised when I found out how fast ethernet goes in contrast with disk i/o. [07:35] morning hba [07:35] Seems like a huge bottleneck [07:35] Buggaboo: yeah :P [07:36] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-186-223.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [07:36] nowadays they got these huge volatile memory storage devices, I wonder how fast those go. [07:37] as fast as they are expensive [07:38] it would be sweet to mount vm guests on those devices, and push the vm guest state once in a while to a non-volatile, that would really sweet to engineer. [07:39] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1176016539.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [07:39] in 12.2, i upgraded my kernel packages but when i try to create the init img, i just get an empty /initrd-tree/lib/modules/2.6.27.31-smp dir. The kernel i use is the generic-smp with ext3 fs in /. Does someone knows what could be the problem? [07:40] isn't the default 12.2 kernel 2.6.28.7? [07:41] hba I may have something for you [07:41] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [07:41] hba check this: ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2/patches/packages/linux-2.6.27.31/README [07:41] People.. just drop the initrd's its unnecessary overcomplication [07:41] hba, never upgrade kernels, always keep the old version. [07:42] use pat's generic.. and compile in the FS and disk controller... job done [07:42] is ext4 really stable with linux-2.6.29.6 now ? [07:42] (if you feel adventurous, take OUT all the extra controllers you dont need) [07:42] nick4: i have already did that, thats why im using generic-smp ;) [07:42] ahh... [07:42] well, I use hugesmp [07:42] i have been using ext4 for a long time with not much problem [07:43] hba, I mean never upgrade (i.e. install new, remove/replace old version), and take out the old one, always keep one functioning kernel. [07:43] Thom1 noob! :P [07:43] mrselfpwn, did your computer crash many times ? [07:43] this is lilo's ouput http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/d6g37H62.html [07:43] nope [07:43] Thom1: ext4 has been stable since forever.. its just a matter of applications using it correctly.. which is up to them [07:43] Thom1 I actually don't know myself. But I wouldn't trust it just yet. Maybe in 5 years. [07:43] nick4: fail [07:44] nick4: by then it will be superceded by btrfs [07:44] Slack13 will have ext4 as default.. thats all you need to know [07:44] but i did lose data once after dropping my laptop. :P [07:44] Zordrak as you can tell I am not exacly a guy that lives on the edge :P [07:45] nick4: still.. try to stay away from ext4 FUD [07:45] ext2 forevah! [07:45] not. [07:45] Thom1: should be [07:45] ext2 fornevah [07:45] I use ext2 for /tmp [07:45] :) [07:45] Dunno why. [07:45] oh that's a good move Buggaboo [07:46] no need to journal there [07:46] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [07:46] oh yeah, that was the reason. [07:46] Action: mrselfpwn uses ram for tmp [07:46] I use ntfs on tmpfs :) [07:46] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89A7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:46] mrselfpwn has too much RAM e? :P [07:46] it feels too fast otherwise :D [07:46] Hm, I have 6gb... for e-mail and youporn... I should do that too. [07:46] no, it wasn't all being used so wth [07:47] good point but I have 512MB of RAM [07:47] yes and compiling in tmp is much faster [07:47] btw, in pub/slackware/slackware-12.2/patches/packages/linux-2.6.27.31/README, it should be 'Then, make sure /etc/lilo.conf has' rather than 'Then, make sure /etc/lilo has' ;) [07:47] Once in a while flash stops working then I have to go empty /tmp. [07:47] Question: the GPG-KEY on the DVD's root is the security key to confirm the .asc files? [07:47] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [07:48] hba correct! Mail Pat! [07:49] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [07:49] Isn't the .asc just the md5sum hash? [07:49] there is also an error in the section about building your own kernel in slackbook [07:50] ... screw doc writers then ;) [07:50] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.86) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:50] should be cat arch/i386/boot/bzImage > /boot/vmlinuz as opposed to just /vmlinuz like it is now. [07:50] sz^ (n=sz@a91-154-4-65.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [07:51] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [07:52] Well, gpg --verify *.asc says BAD signature :/ [07:52] but sometimes a little document errors help weed certain people out. ;D [07:53] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl66-35.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: "later" [07:54] this is my tmpfs line in /etc/fstab Buggaboo [07:54] tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0 [07:55] tmpfs is for volatile memory then, ah. [07:55] Is that module compiled in the stock kernel? [07:55] well, that and ramfs, but tmpfs will use swap if it needs to. ramfs will not use swap [07:55] sweet. [07:56] yes buggaboo [07:56] Action: Buggaboo makes a note [07:56] I'll make the tweak when I get home [07:56] I want a max.cap. on the memory usage, you don't seem to set that in there. [07:56] cool, just remember that /tmp will be erased on each reboot. [07:56] sz^ (n=sz@a91-154-4-65.elisa-laajakaista.fi) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:57] mrselfpwn, yes, that was quite clear. :P [07:57] yeah, you can set it though that option has been working fine for me [07:58] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [07:58] as I monitor with conky, i rarely see it go over half available ram even with different programs running. I have 1.5gb [07:58] hm, conky is a konqueror plugin or somewhat... [07:59] never heard of it. [07:59] conky is a very versatile system monitor tool [07:59] There's probably a setting for it somewhere... [07:59] I'll dig it up from the docu, thanks for the tip. [08:00] sec, i'll show you my ss [08:00] CONFIG_EXT3_FS=y in /boot/config means ext3 is *in* the kernel? [08:00] I don't program much in C/C++ nowadays or compile much, I'm hacking away at haxe... [08:00] ext3 is in the kernel hba [08:00] mrselfpwn: even for generic-smp? [08:00] hba, m = module, y = in-kernel, n = blue [08:01] Buggaboo: ah ok, thanks. [08:01] so generic is not so *generic* :) [08:02] Buggaboo: haxe, nice :) [08:02] Buggaboo: btw, how did you install it? [08:02] Camarade_Tux, just used the installer. [08:02] it will automagically pollute your /usr/bin and /usr/share. [08:03] without a slackbuild trace... [08:03] but I don't really care that much anymore... [08:03] Long time ago I used to worry feverishly about such things... [08:03] elderK (n=elderK@222.152.99.143) left ##slackware. [08:04] Buggaboo: ok, was just wondering, I'm the channel's ocaml troll and haxe uses ocaml :D [08:04] Yeah. The compiler is done in ocaml. [08:04] I'd never touch haskell for a real project. [08:04] although it was a part of uni. [08:05] important part of uni-education even. [08:05] compmstr (n=corey@74.185.8.197) joined ##slackware. [08:06] Although I get blisters on my fingers and hives when I'm forced to type a bunch of parentheses. [08:06] =) [08:06] break out in hives even. [08:06] http://git.ocamlcore.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=ocaml-gir/ocaml-gir.git;a=summary :) [08:07] seems like a handy project. [08:08] haxe can do C/C++ code nowadays. [08:08] yht (n=yht@114.120.137.40) left irc: "I must go.." [08:08] I wonder how it does closures but it shouldn't be too hard with functors... hm. Dunno. Function pointers? Really dunno. [08:08] here is a screenshot buggaboo. my conky can be seen in the upper left corner; http://nemesys.darktech.org/images/slackdesktopss.png [08:09] mrselfpwn, you should've warned that it's nsfw [08:09] :P [08:09] Woo! [08:10] Just finished compiling my custom generic kernel [08:10] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [08:10] real 6m59.533s [08:10] hi [08:10] happy kernel panic :) [08:10] yo missyjane :) [08:10] hey hey Camarade_Tux :) [08:10] Zordrak: which computer, and make -jX? [08:10] mrselfpwn, I thought hm... g... ehm, the old one could go opaque too. [08:10] 7 minutes for a kernel compile is more than i could have dreamed of :) [08:10] hm? [08:10] it is sfw lol [08:11] gkrellm aha. [08:11] Camarade_Tux: -j13 on a Single Xeon E5520 running slack64-13rc-2 on WD velociRaptors in Hardware RAID1 [08:11] (8GB RAM) [08:12] i believe it could buggaboo [08:12] mrselfpwn, I run this place more or less, I get special rights to look at nekkid women lying against stuff. [08:12] lol [08:12] Zordrak: errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr [08:12] erwhat? [08:12] Zordrak: you really have that machine? :p [08:12] Zordrak, you prove again that life is unfair. [08:12] yus [08:13] two of them [08:13] o_O? it seems to me that at least for the fs in / i dont really need a initrd img, since its already *in* the kernel -> sed -e '/EXT3/b' -e '/MBCACHE/b' -e '/JBD/b' -e d /boot/config-generic-smp-2.6.27.31-smp [08:13] Action: Camarade_Tux shoots Zordrak [08:13] Zordrak, you running a server? [08:13] or two even? [08:13] but one isnt booting so will be going back to the builder for fixing [08:13] yeah.. with 6x1TB disk each in RAID6 [08:13] Zordrak: now that you're dead, you can try to compile with the two machines :P [08:13] oh [08:13] on a 3ware 9650SE-12ML [08:14] I would so kill to do a vm experiment with that, I still have to figure out/enigineer how to migrate live vm guest sessions between two machines. [08:14] theyll be doing high-availability NFS&samba [08:14] using drbd+heartbeat and cross-plugged into two APC 2200VA UPSes [08:14] Zordrak: but your kernel is probably big if it compiles in 7 minutes, mine compiles in about 6 minutes or less, on a much slower machine :D [08:15] how big is your kernel Camarade_Tux? [08:15] o_O? [08:15] Camarade_Tux: it's pats generic (which compiles in 9m30) with a lot rewoved, but 3ware, ICH, ext2/3/4/xfs compiled-in [08:15] mrselfpwn: 2.4MB but /lib/modules is <1MB (if I don't cound nvidia.ko) [08:15] To speed up compilation: 1. run tmpfs on /tmp (assuming you use a slackbuild that's setup to build on /tmp), 2. CC=ccach distcc ./some.SlackBuild, 3. Install distcc on a compilation farm, 4. go! [08:16] And I skipped the bit about setting up the distcc network. [08:16] uva (i=bno@118-160-161-81.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:16] 2.9M final kernel size [08:16] uva (i=bno@118-160-161-81.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [08:16] pfff, you're fat -_- [08:16] hehe. [08:17] kernel bloat! :P [08:17] yeah.. but i have no initrd and my kernel knows my disk controller and FSes before it blinks [08:17] this sucks [08:17] i know 50/50 on what you guys are talking about [08:17] but i cant keep up [08:17] Nah, my is absolutely not optimized either. [08:17] Action: Zordrak hates initrds [08:18] missyjane, what's the problem again? [08:18] TkTech (n=TkTech@94.76.253.149) joined ##slackware. [08:18] missyjane, you can't boot up your slices? [08:18] illuz1oN, huh, you were here. [08:18] huge stays as an option in lilo.. otherwise i compile-in what i need [08:18] I tried xz compression but decompression is too slow [08:18] (and the win quite small) [08:18] TkTech :p [08:18] Slackware user? [08:18] Pedigree user :) [08:19] Why use slackware when you have your own POSIX compliant OS with most of the LSB ported? [08:19] :p [08:19] Saw your note on Rohitab about ##slackware [08:19] Buggaboo, huh? slices? [08:19] Didn't realize you were on this network [08:20] :p [08:20] uva (i=bno@118-160-161-81.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [08:20] missyjane, sorry, slices = partitions [08:20] uva (i=bno@118-160-161-81.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [08:21] ooh.. Buggaboo thats so cute... T.T [08:21] ;_; my slices work [08:21] missyjane, so remind me what's the problem? [08:24] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-237.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "leaving" [08:24] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-237.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [08:24] Buggaboo, what problem are you talking about? i didnt say i have any problem [08:24] Sweet.. no panic [08:25] missyjane: slicehost? [08:25] sliceofcake? :D [08:25] sorry, I recall someone had a problem with the kernel or somewhat. [08:25] no, not me, i just woke up [08:25] evilfourzero, :O huh? [08:25] oh. [08:25] you said your slices work [08:26] i thought you were referring to slicehost [08:26] uva (i=bno@118-160-161-81.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:26] they host "slices" [08:26] :p [08:26] evilfourzero, Buggaboo's odd term for partition [08:26] ah [08:26] wait, evilfourzero. The hell you doing here :| [08:26] haha [08:26] i run slackware on my server [08:26] Ahh [08:26] come around here from time to time [08:26] used slackware for a long time :p [08:27] I'm flirting with ubuntu nowadays @work. [08:27] Aye [08:27] for all the servers. [08:27] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [08:27] Slackware was/is great, but grandpa's getting old [08:27] but my desktop is pure slack. [08:27] ... [08:27] it should be the other way around .... [08:27] 1.129% used RAM on boot :) [08:28] no, both should be slackware :> [08:28] hehe [08:28] haha [08:28] slackware is great for servers [08:28] I think one of the VPS's is running slack [08:28] not sure anymore :3 [08:28] what's wrong with it for desktops? [08:28] TkTech: VPS's? [08:28] one of CC's [08:28] ? [08:28] actually it's, ubuntu vm server, and on top ubuntu vm guest and a number of windows server 2003 vm guests [08:28] ex: vps1.codecall.net [08:29] not Xen, but KVM. [08:29] virtual private server [08:29] TkTech: who's is that? [08:29] Mine :| [08:29] nice looking website [08:29] I could easily run a slackware vm guest on top, if there's any demand for it... [08:30] which one, codecall.net or pedigree-project.org [08:30] I use ubuntu only for its easy software raid installation [08:30] engarde linux is pretty good stuff too. [08:31] I don't even use libvirtiio... [08:31] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: "chao pajudos =P" [08:32] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:33] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: "Leaving" [08:34] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [08:34] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [08:36] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [08:37] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89A7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [08:40] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89A7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Client Quit [08:44] Buggaboo (n=Buggab00@ipd50a4203.speed.planet.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:45] anyone know if i can put in a wildcard (127.0.0.1 *.domain.tld) in /etc/hosts.allow ? [08:46] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89A7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [08:46] i mean /etc/hosts [08:50] other_rafa (i=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) joined ##slackware. [08:51] allend (n=allend@58.164.105.200) joined ##slackware. [08:52] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [08:53] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [08:54] slax (n=q@85.97.65.11) left irc: "delicate and lovely" [08:54] Bugz___ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-93-25.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [08:54] C00re: just use 127.0.0.1 .domain.tld .. no need for the * [08:55] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [08:56] quasar does that work? [08:56] gtludwig (n=Nelson@189.114.200.199.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:56] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [08:57] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:01] allend (n=allend@58.164.105.200) left irc: "Leaving" [09:02] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-81-66.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:02] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-93-25.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [09:04] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-81-66.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:04] mancha: according to host_access(5) it does.. "A string that begins with a `.' character. A host name is matched if the last components of its name match the specified pattern. For example, the pattern `.tue.nl' matches the host name `wzv.win.tue.nl'" [09:04] Quiznos: pong. [09:04] spook: thanks :) [09:04] Camarade_Tux: thanks :) [09:05] ahh nice [09:05] quasar, you can't wildcard in /etc/hosts afaik, since htis is a host file. [09:06] hey all =) [09:06] rworkman: :) [09:06] quasar did you try it and it works? [09:06] rworkman: now you have to remember mine: March 21st :D (will you remember during 8 months? :p ) [09:07] haha. [09:07] No. :) [09:07] quasar, hist_access seems to be about tcpwrappers,, he changed his question to /etc/hosts; right? [09:08] other_rafa (i=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) left irc: "Leaving" [09:08] if he did I didn't see it [09:09] if i understood his question, he wants all *.domain.tld to map to loopback via an entry in /etc/hosts [09:09] and the answer, unless someone knows otherwise, is that you can't wildcard host entries in /etc/hosts [09:09] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:10] rworkman: ='( [09:10] :P [09:10] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [09:10] I haven't said a word about /etc/hosts ... his question that I saw specificied /etc/hosts.allow [09:11] well, this was written a mere 2 milliseconds after his original " i mean /etc/hosts" [09:11] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [09:11] also in his original he said "(127.0.0.1 *.domain.tld)" which makes no sense in a .allow or .deny file [09:11] yep [09:12] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) joined ##slackware. [09:12] xxjx (n=xxjx@unaffiliated/xxjx) joined ##slackware. [09:12] C00re, i think you're SOL [09:12] write a script tha'll add/remove host lines dynamically [09:13] rworkman hi morn; how big a tarfile would be of all buildfiles that you have? [09:13] Quiznos: I think all of SBo is only 60mb or so [09:14] yea [09:14] that's a guess? [09:14] rworkman, thanks for the work on xf86-intel-video. The newest one seems to work well and i'm not getting the weird bugs as before. [09:14] sure, I can rsync and check for sure, if you can't currently [09:15] cant decide how to handle the partitioning of this raid [09:15] C00re, the better way to achieve this is set up a master for that domain in a local DNS, and not fuss with /etc/hosts [09:15] a 3TB would need to efi guid partitioning [09:15] Quiznos: rsync is your friend. We're not going to generate a tarball of everything. [09:15] ok ty. [09:15] mrselfpwn: np; glad it works for you [09:15] mancha: it wasn't miliseconds and sorry for not studying the screen when I glanced over to see that his question hadn't been answered [09:15] Quiznos: and I misread the question. :/ [09:16] ok;redo. [09:16] 61M/home/SlackBuilds.org/www/slackbuilds/12.2 [09:16] ty [09:16] Stx (i=stx@freenode/staff/stx) joined ##slackware. [09:16] is that uncompressed? [09:17] good morning rworkman / Quiznos [09:17] hi [09:18] quasar, you are right about hosts.allow and hosts.deny, of course. he phrased his question poorly originally. [09:22] C00re etc/host does not NEED wildcards [09:23] yea, i heard it the first time thx [09:23] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w60Sxop5I38 LOOOL [09:24] C00re if you're going to alias a remote domain name as localhost for blockage, then you really should be using another method; etc/hosts isnt really the right place for blocking. [09:24] iptables would be better. [09:24] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:25] missyjane: g'morn [09:25] Quiznos: yes [09:25] >:) [09:25] ok [09:26] Q; is there any license where a source says "this can be freely redistributedand changed except for the line "xyz"" ? [09:26] heh [09:26] show line "xyz"? [09:26] i just found such a source and it seems like you can't do that [09:26] put it in to a diff file with diff license [09:27] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-dyxotmklwulddlok) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:27] why is line so designated? [09:27] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [09:28] because it printf's something in such a way that it reflects a political statement [09:28] and? [09:28] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [09:28] and presumably the author wants his political statewent to not be removed [09:28] what's the license say for that line? [09:28] wow [09:28] what's the line 's text? [09:28] show it [09:28] thats immaterial [09:28] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-uvluyjxrlvrnffii) joined ##slackware. [09:29] i really want to see the line [09:29] now that even you're censoring :) [09:31] what's the url to the pkg? [09:32] Tirili (n=Janisz20@dslc-082-083-153-223.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:32] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.37.191) joined ##slackware. [09:34] Hi [09:34] mancha wow, no response? why are you hiding his code? [09:35] nv4Phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:36] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:36] mancha: yeah, talk is cheap, show us the code :) [09:36] mancha: You can license your code any way you want.. [09:36] hey, what's the manpage for setting up a .forward file? [09:36] If someone wanted to license it that way..then those terms need to be stated [09:37] ViN86 (n=ViN86@cpe-72-228-59-183.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:38] ViN86 (n=ViN86@cpe-72-228-59-183.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [09:38] ViN86_ (i=ViN86@VPN-ONE-THIRTY-FOUR.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [09:39] wow. [09:39] Nick change: ViN86_ -> ViN86 [09:39] ? [09:40] My network doesn't connect any more, since I have installed the 2.7.17.31 kernel update via slackware. I have also tried running make modules and make modules_install and /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 restart, but the ping command does not answer. What did I do wrong? [09:40] nv4Phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) joined ##slackware. [09:40] *via slackpkg [09:40] 2.7? [09:40] Not? [09:40] 2.6 possibly. ;) [09:41] oh. 2.6.17.31 I mean. [09:41] http://kernel.org/ ;) [09:41] straterra i was unaware you could license any way you liked [09:41] mancha: Why wouldn't you be able to? [09:42] mancha what's the url to the code's pkg? [09:42] That isn't to say it will hold up in a court of law in a specific country..but that doesnt stop you from licensing it that way [09:42] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:42] on it's a 27, but who cares. Do you have a hint for me? [09:43] i guess that was more my question, you can surely write whatever you like in a comment section at the beginning...the question was more about the ability to defend this licensing in a court [09:43] Tirili just make a new kernel. [09:43] Hm. Now it works. [09:43] similarly to employment contracts that *can* have any clause they like but some clauses clearly get shot down as unconstitutional or whatever [09:43] mancha: for that..you need to talk to a lawyer [09:43] Tirili: lol i was about to say you sure you included the driver? [09:43] Oh man. It didn't work for at leat half an hour. [09:44] bogus iptables Tirili [09:44] Tirili: maybe the DHCP was just takin some time ;) [09:44] lol [09:44] mancha what's the url to the code's pkg? [09:44] there's no url, it was sent to me, now stop being a pest [09:45] mancha show the printf. dont call me a pest on this matter. you started it. the code is public, since it was released. [09:45] is the code (the printf) a trade secret? [09:46] since it's a political statement (as you identified as such) then it's meant to be read by everyone. [09:46] It doesn't matter. He has no obligation to show it to you. Leave it alone. [09:47] rworkman i think my previuos line to him answers yours. [09:47] Tirili, can you describe your situation a bit more? what kernel did you originaly have? what kernel do you have now? and what do you use for internet? [09:47] No, it doesn't. He's *still* under no obligation to show me, you, or anyone else. [09:48] The problem has already solved itself. :) [09:48] Tirili, cool beans [09:48] I had 2.6.27.7 and upgraded via slackpkg to 2.6.27.31. [09:49] then he shouldnt have asked; i mean, it's only a printf statement; why hide what is obviously meant to be read by user? and the printf has it's own encasing license within a two license file. that is interesting to express someone's desire to protect his code. no? [09:49] or yes? [09:50] Tirili, ah, this must be related to the null pointer deref that was making news yesterday [09:50] yesterday? [09:50] Ugh, I just got the email. that was a terrible bug. [09:50] the day before i guess [09:50] yep [09:51] Quiznos: interesting? Yes. The other points remain the same. [09:51] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-68-216.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [09:51] anyone have a link to that null-ptr deref? [09:51] http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2009-2692 [09:51] thanks :) [09:52] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [09:53] Then I'll try to upgrade this machine too now. [09:53] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-142-51.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [09:53] Tirili (n=Janisz20@dslc-082-083-153-223.pools.arcor-ip.net) left ##slackware. [09:54] there are some band-aid approaches (but the best is to upgrade your colonel). band-aid: echo 4096 > /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr [09:57] ok, I still dont' get the colonel joke [09:57] I get it..it's just not funny [09:58] Infact..its annoying [09:58] oh, of course; I am literate enough to understand that they sound the same, but why is it funny? [09:58] I'm not sure anyone thinks its funny..ananke went off on him for it [09:58] colonel is a man; kernel is (non-GMO) food or binary. [09:59] well, I read it on some blog post too, and figured I missed something [10:00] pupiteee (n=p@79.101.161.100) joined ##slackware. [10:02] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.37.191) left irc: Client Quit [10:03] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-237.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:03] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [10:05] nv4Phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:05] mancha: whats the difference as opposed to the official patch? [10:05] better worded, won't echo 4096 > /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr and applying the new patch have the same effect? [10:07] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: "Leaving" [10:07] pupiteee1 (n=p@79.101.161.100) joined ##slackware. [10:07] nv4Phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) joined ##slackware. [10:07] pupiteee (n=p@79.101.161.100) left irc: Success [10:08] samuelig (n=samuelig@62.pool85-57-151.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [10:08] ahh nevermind, of course there is a kernel patch available. I can just apply the diff, keep my current config, and just recompile =] [10:09] why? Pat put up new kernels [10:09] Nick change: Quiznos -> DonQuixote [10:09] not sure what you mean by new patch, the kernel has been updated to remove this 0-page problem. the 4096 is a makeshift band-aid that works by preventing access to the lower 4k [10:09] thrice`: applying binary kernel world take out my current custom kernel [10:09] its just a binary kernel in the package right? [10:10] oh, if you use a custom kernel, then just update [10:10] r0n1n i would assume so. dl a diff from kernel.org and do what your hunch says [10:10] okay, thanks for the reassurance guys =] [10:10] make oldconfig shoulnd't even ask you anything unless you are currently far lagged [10:10] if its a real kernel mod.. how come theres no kernel ver bump for current? [10:11] surely its just a config thing.. [10:11] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [10:12] samuelig (n=samuelig@62.pool85-57-151.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:14] pupiteee1 (n=p@79.101.161.100) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:14] yeah, just build a new colonel [10:17] thrice`: don't make me kill you [10:17] HAHAHA, don't you get it???? [10:17] i prefer extra crispy [10:17] im just saying... [10:17] it's because they sound the same [10:18] XD [10:18] so.. -current has the same kernel, but with a config mod.. 12.2 has a new kernel version upgrade as well... right? [10:18] gar0t0_ (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [10:20] maybe he's not gotten around to building a new colonel for -current [10:20] what minor is -current on? [10:20] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.45) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:20] 6 [10:20] 6? oh then he must be on .29 (or .28) ? [10:21] Zordrak: the beauty of slackware. Get your kernels from kernel.org [10:21] there's no .29.6 sorry, so .28.6? thats quite old [10:21] correction, there is a 29.6 [10:21] i know.. im running it.. :) [10:22] .29.6 is quite old too :> [10:22] straterra: you remember helping me build my first kernel in 2005? [10:22] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.61.148) joined ##slackware. [10:22] lol [10:22] ok, if it is 29.6 then its just a band-aid Zord [10:22] thing is.. the 13 release process has dragged on so long its almost worth doing an rc3 beta with .30.x [10:22] ViN86, you remember the version ? [10:22] Thom1: well slack defaulted to the 2.4 then [10:22] dont remember the exact version... [10:23] it was slack 9.1 [10:23] I agree; 13 is getting stale already for desktop use [10:23] i remember that [10:23] i was using the newer 2.6 kernel at the time. [10:23] ok [10:23] i recall when 2.4 was all kinds of funkiness, you were better off with a mature 2.2 [10:25] ViN86: Err..no :P [10:25] I barely remember yesterday [10:25] lol i dont expect you to [10:25] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.28) joined ##slackware. [10:25] Kaapa (n=Somethin@82.155.192.78) joined ##slackware. [10:26] Did it work? [10:26] I would love for Pat to occasionally come out with a statement of what hes doing rather than just what he's done [10:26] straterra: pfft of course [10:26] hehe [10:26] you were helping, remember? ;P [10:26] Well...spread the teaching [10:27] unless they say colonel..then don't [10:28] what if i say colonel.. -_- [10:28] gtludwig (n=Nelson@189.114.200.199.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [10:29] linux is getting more complex (in the sense that the userland options are growing) and certain things are quite intricate. running a one-man (or few-men) distrib is probably much harder these days [10:30] sure, but keep in mind that it's Pat's (financial) job - people pay for it [10:30] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:30] yeah, so there has to be some degree of responsiveness to his clients...the ones who pay the $$ [10:31] who pays pat in return for a service? its all donation isnt it? [10:31] but the niche slackware has is not the distrib for those who want full-blown eye candy filled gui driven windows emulators, so there's a bit of difference [10:32] i was under the impression that sales were a "buy the media" thing [10:32] Zordrak, sure, but if people stop liking the product they'l stop buying so implictely as in any sale, you gotta be responsive to your market [10:32] Nick change: gar0t0_ -> gar0t0 [10:33] he has to have another revenue stream though surely.. slack media sales cant support him alone [10:34] i have no idea, if slackware is just a hobby then sure, all bet's are off. here's my hobby distrib if you like it cool, of not, there are others. [10:34] i always assumed that was the case [10:34] iirc bob has a real job [10:34] slack is a spare time thing [10:34] i imagine pat's the same, tho as with bob i have no idea how they find the time, social life or not [10:35] ok, thrice said it was his main source of income which i believed. i have no idea. [10:35] I am pretty sure slackware is his only income [10:35] alienBOB has suggested it quite a bit [10:35] i just cant see how it figures.. unless he live's in Willie's shack [10:36] *lives [10:36] and eats dead pigenos [10:36] *pigeons [10:36] bah [10:36] :D [10:37] i, for one, hope slackware continues for a while and in the same spirit as always, stable, unadultered, and not unecessarilly bloated [10:37] i consider bloat to be a choice, not a default [10:37] i like having the option for where it's appropriate [10:37] it makes slack suitable for any application [10:37] eh? the base slackware install is one of the biggest available [10:38] depends how you define bloat i guess [10:38] as a desktop user, all of the server stuff is useless on my laptop. I consider that bloat [10:39] my biggest peeve with some of the other worthwhile distrbs is the way they patch ot the ass at the distrib level [10:39] I'd prefer hard disk bloat to resource bloat, thats just me [10:39] ron1n: hell yes [10:39] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:39] "info2man converts GNU info files to pod or -man formats." :) [10:39] ron1n: thats like the definition of how i run things [10:39] mancha: thats why I came over from debian. [10:40] Zordrak: thats why I was so skeptical about applying a new colonel. [10:40] ron1n, yeah debian is nice in so many ways...i just don't see why they don't push upstream more [10:40] I have everything as a module =P [10:40] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.219) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:40] that's another peeve of mine! why does GNU hate manpages? [10:40] when the server has raw capacity of 7TB do i give a shit if i waste a gig or so by doing a full install.... when it means i have what i need where i need it when i need it hell no... but i still tweak the twat off it to make it run only what is needed for the box in question [10:41] Zordrak: for me its more so the case of 128MB of ram. and IDE hard disks cheaper and cheaper as the days go by. [10:41] *nod* [10:42] pupit (n=pupit@91.150.106.33) joined ##slackware. [10:42] Zordrak: you skip kde/ :) [10:42] Camarade_Tux: nah.. i like kcalc in flux :) [10:42] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.4.7) joined ##slackware. [10:42] ron1n did the weak prng for ssh keys bite you one the ass? [10:43] s/one/on [10:43] slackpkg needs tweaking to ignore rc.font.now [10:43] mancha: generating random bits takess foreverr thats for suree [10:43] new [10:44] on first boot, when the keys are first generated I fell asleep =P [10:44] ron1n, i meant the most high profile debian screwup of recent times: their patch to openssl [10:45] mancha I have been using slackware since sarge left testing =P I wouldn't know. [10:46] ron1n, are you up with a new colonel yet? [10:47] mancha: I plan on looking into it later. The affected notebook is at home. [10:47] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:48] damn.. does anyone have the generic config for -current64 from yosterday? [10:48] Zordrak: What do you need that for? [10:49] diff probably [10:49] sanity diff [10:50] Zordrak: http://pastebin.ca/1535160 [10:50] ty [10:52] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: [10:52] peacenik (n=didier@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [10:53] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:54] peacenik (n=didier@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:54] sanity confirmed, thx [10:55] how many jobs for this compile i wonder.. 13 was better than 11 i think... perhaps ill try (2*cores)+1 [10:55] Action: Zordrak goes off for the days 3rd kernel compile on the same box [10:55] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [10:56] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.28) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:56] Zordak so can you confirm the change for the .6 on -current, what does it involve? [10:57] its just that one option [10:57] CONFIG_SECURITY_DEFAULT_MMAP_MIN_ADDR=0 -> 4096 [10:57] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [10:57] eviljames: you here? [10:58] ah ok, so prevention of lower 4k usage [10:58] Nick change: twolf_ -> twolf [10:59] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [11:00] so, what hapd to hafta make that sec.change? [11:01] google said Oi. dis aint right [11:01] lol [11:01] lolol rofl [11:01] Zordrak, no need to recompile for that [11:01] it's funier when spoken [11:01] hi - i was playing around with systemsettings in kde4 (64-current) and tried to see what gtk would do [11:01] hi NthDegree [11:01] Zordrak, just modify the option with sysctl.conf [11:01] NthDegree: its a brand new server.. installed today.. might as well [11:01] Zordrak, ah, all good then :) [11:01] as soon as I clicked apply I was gone from kde [11:01] esp as only takes 7mins to compile [11:02] I wonder if there's an advantage to setting that option to 4MB [11:02] >_> [11:02] im guessing not [11:02] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:02] I checked to see if I could find the file to change - thought it might be ~/.kde/share/config/systemsettingsrc [11:02] well kernel developers seem to recommend 65535 (or 65536) as an option for x86 [11:02] prolly drop 0.004% performance [11:02] met a man yesterday who said that his Forth compiles 4 million lines/s [11:03] and 32767 (or 32768) for other arches [11:03] g4br13l (i=ipv6@unaffiliated/g4br13l) joined ##slackware. [11:03] NthDegree what do those bit lengths represent? [11:03] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:04] but that didn't work - could anyone point me in the direction of the right file? [11:04] as I comprehend what's been said about the null ref, it's just the page-entry [0] tht's being "locked out" [11:04] g4br13l (i=ipv6@unaffiliated/g4br13l) left ##slackware. [11:04] so no memory is being lost by doing so [11:04] DonQuixote, first 32kb and 64kb of address space [11:05] also mmap_min_addr supposedly can be bypassed in some older kernel versions [11:05] It's better to just rip out all the vulnerable code [11:05] Action: NthDegree was never vulnerable to this because of his custom kernel not including the vulnerable components in the first place [11:06] hey channel -- I just got a response back from my senator's office and the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs regarding the issue of the DMCA restricting legitimate software development, which has resulted in the inprisonment on ethical software developers and many more pen testers and exploit researchers. I'm getting ready for a response but I wanted to see what the open source community was feel [11:06] ing about this so that I can make sure I'm telling them what the community wants and not just what I want. [11:06] anyone know how much of a band-aid the newest colonels are? it seems to me, w/o going to deep into it that its a fix on sock_sendpage [11:07] *imprisonment *of* [11:07] it's fucking "kernel" ffs [11:07] Like, a great example would be this guy who wrote the software that strips the DRM from pdf files for use on portable devices that don't support DRM. [11:07] kernel != colonel [11:08] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: Connection timed out [11:08] dartmouth, the damage of false DMCA notices should be mentioned [11:08] some people use them as a weapon to get creative works removed from the Internet [11:09] that's pretty much what I'm saying. [11:09] The person filing the DMCA should proof from the courts before being able to issue a notice [11:09] get proof* [11:10] The courts should verify that the person is the copyright holder and provide that copyright holder with proof that service providers can verify easily [11:10] the issue is, if i understand right, when this russian programmer wrote that pdf DRM stripper that it somehow violated adobe's copyright? [11:10] good god, not the 'colonel' again [11:10] mancha : it's not funny. seriously. despite what you may think, it is not funny. [11:10] ananke and thrice` i'd like to quote you guys directly on this, too-- i need 'youze' educated opinions [11:10] Bugz___ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-93-25.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [11:11] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-93-25.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:11] Action: NthDegree is so glad he lives in the UK [11:11] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89A7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:11] I"m not being quoted on anything :> [11:11] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.86) joined ##slackware. [11:12] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:12] NthDegree: well, i think if there was a way to separate the ownership of the product from the ownership of all derivative products (DRM strippers) that should fix the stunt in software development, shouldn't it? I don't know. [11:12] aww.. i lost a few seconds with -j17 [11:13] aww thrice` but you're so SMART and little ole' cpunches needs your superior brain. [11:13] lol [11:14] Action: dartmouth jabs you [11:14] dartmouth : i haven't studied DMCA enough to make qualified enough statement [11:15] peacenik: that very much depends on what exactly you changed [11:16] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) joined ##slackware. [11:16] ananke: me either. i am more interested in getting the general feedback from both proprietary and open source communities about ways they've been restricted from legit software development due to the act [11:16] Action: ananke is busy with customizing RT, not enough brain cycles left for discussing DMCA implications :) [11:17] there was an act in the 108th congress called the 'balance act', but i need to make sure it was passed and actually read it [11:18] Does anyone have an opinion on what to do with 3TB for a single central storage system? Cant partition 3TB with LBA, so either i have to leap into GPT partitioning, or I have to split the raid6 into multiple and then either hard allocate.. or use lvm to concat [11:19] dartmouth, would be even easier to make certain portions of copyright only last for a decade [11:19] i have no gpt experience btw [11:19] and lawmakers shouldn't have any problems doing that, after all patents are limited [11:20] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [11:20] So making areas of copyright such as redistribution and modification only last for 10 years should be enough to fix many different problems [11:21] all I changed was the settinig from oxygen (as I remember) to gtk [11:21] in the first part of the "appearance" section [11:22] Zordrak : use gpt. and parted [11:22] then lay down lvm on top of that partition, and call it the day [11:22] ananke: seems like the better way doesnt it... want to keep it as a single raid6 if possible [11:22] why lvm? [11:22] because i said so :) [11:22] Zord, ok backporting the patch to the .29.x colonel is straightforward, but i still wonder about yet-to-be-discovered ways to null ptr deref [11:22] Zordrak : i use lvm on everything [11:23] y? [11:23] Zordrak : now, will you be installing slackware on that, or will it be used for data/secondary storage? [11:23] titopoquito (n=tito@p508EB2E7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:24] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:24] Zordrak : here's a sample way of automating parted: [11:25] parted -s /dev/mapper/mpathg mklabel gpt [11:25] parted -s /dev/mapper/mpathg mkpart primary 0 -- -1 [11:25] peacenik: ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals [11:25] I went to black ]box and tried to run /usr/bin/systemsettings and got the message that I got is at http://pastebin.com/m7c7cdcfa [11:25] first command creates gpt label on /dev/mapper/mpathg, second one creates one big partition, spanning the entire device [11:25] Zordrak why cant you partition 3T? [11:26] DonQuixote : because it's not easy to do with the normal tools [11:26] whats a good parameter to filter only the 'file.ext' name in one line w/ sed? [11:26] ananke ok [11:26] filter remove or filter only report? [11:26] report only the file.ext [11:26] DonQuixote : dos partition table supports devices up to 2TB. beyond that you need to use GPT label. fdisk/sfdisk/cfdisk can't deal with gpt, so you're stuck using parted [11:26] peacenik: well, yeah, that's probably not a good idea [11:26] ananke wouldnt one of the newer (more sophisticated) fs handle it? [11:26] ananke ok [11:26] DonQuixote : it's not a matter of a filesystem at this point [11:27] k [11:27] sed 's/^.*\(file.ext\)/\1/' [11:27] what's `GPT'? [11:27] lemecheck [11:27] Zordrak : ohh, as to your question about lvm, i find it much more flexibile in use than regular partitions [11:27] oops [11:27] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.6) joined ##slackware. [11:27] pprkut: do I change widgetStyle=gtk+ to what oxygen? [11:27] sed 's/^.*\(file.ext\).*$/\1/' [11:27] there [11:27] DonQuixote : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table [11:27] ty [11:28] pprkut: actually figured out it wasn't a good idea [11:28] ty [11:28] ananke why is lvm "more flexible in use *"? [11:29] np powtrix [11:29] habitual tinkering and seeing what if . . . [11:29] peacenik you experiencing a Woodstock flashback? :) [11:29] DonQuixote : because i can create/destroy/grow filesystems on the fly. not so with regular partitions [11:29] ok [11:29] and fs sit on top of lvm parts? [11:30] DonQuixote: flashback?? you mean I'm not there any more? [11:30] DonQuixote : yes [11:30] peacenik you are where you think you are. :) [11:30] ok ananke [11:30] DonQuixote : lvm is basically an abstraction layer between physical devices and filesystems [11:30] LF4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "working on the server." [11:30] ok [11:30] peacenik were you there at the first? [11:30] hmm,lunch [11:31] no [11:31] didn't want to cross the border into usa [11:31] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.61.148) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:31] ah, you were that? [11:31] Padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.26.146) joined ##slackware. [11:31] hmmm [11:31] you left earlier? [11:32] occasionally got to EPP in vermont, just a walk away [11:32] epp? [11:32] earth peoples' park [11:32] kk [11:32] on the border [11:32] yea [11:33] anyway I better check this widget business which means i got to go [11:33] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-93-25.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:34] damn distracting users.../me hits the scrollback in order to catch-up [11:34] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:35] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-93-25.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:35] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [11:35] Hello! [11:36] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) joined ##slackware. [11:37] ananke: i just feel like LVM is another thing to go wrong.. id use it if i needed to, but unless i have a compelling reason, i prefer simplicity [11:37] ananke: thanks for the tip on etting up gpt [11:37] luceroz (n=luceroz@76.31.194.150) joined ##slackware. [11:37] ananke: its not the slack env.. just an attached storage array [11:38] slack is RAID1 on 2x velociRaptors (backplane ver) [11:38] but, the storage system is 5x1TB in RAID6 + 1 hot spare [11:40] (which is then raid1'd to an identical box with drbd giving me RAID61 in effect) [11:42] ananke: mpathg == MPatHG? [11:43] hba (n=hba@189.188.154.133) left irc: "leaving" [11:46] where the heck does slackpkg put kerenel-sources? [11:46] one hopes /usr/src? [11:47] /usr/src/`uname -r` [11:48] ugh. it's empty [11:48] but slackpkg says it's installed [11:48] reinstall [11:49] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:49] wtf?! invalid token: gpt [11:50] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:51] ah.. i get it [11:51] bad parted [11:51] ok so that worked [11:52] pprkut: thanks [11:53] parted is not good [11:54] Nick change: DonQuixote -> Quiznos [11:55] how dare it be uninterruhtable [11:56] peacenik: no problem [11:56] lns40 (n=snL20@90.149.203.34) joined ##slackware. [11:56] Action: NthDegree wonders whether Slackware 8.1 will outlive RHEL 3.x or not >_> [11:57] difficult one [11:57] agilent/verigy still use RHEL3 as their latest release platform [11:57] Well it only needs to live for one more year to match it xD [11:57] they literally cannot give us 4 or 5 [11:58] That's gonna be a huge problem soon then [12:00] Zordrak, so why can't they upgrade? [12:00] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-142-51.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:01] they suck? [12:01] only reason i can figure [12:02] Woo. /dev/sdb1 2.8T \o/ [12:02] nice [12:02] where's mine? [12:03] hiding behind a door, the key to which is coincidentally shaped like £3,500 [12:03] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:04] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:05] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:05] hmmm.. what module have i missed for the IDE activity lights on the supermicro sata backplane? [12:06] Action: Zordrak reboots into huge to double check its a slack thing [12:06] lns40 (n=snL20@90.149.203.34) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:07] bah.. not enough activity :) [12:08] 3500 pounds for a drive? it better do laundry too [12:09] heh.. no its the whole box [12:09] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:09] supermicro/xeon/2xvelociRaptor/6x1TB [12:10] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426474.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[12:53] hey [12:54] Ekc (n=iskar@78.128.55.9) joined ##slackware. [12:56] john_dee (n=id@93-81-137-227.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:57] bootstrap (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) joined ##slackware. [12:59] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:01] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [13:02] Greetings everyone. :) [13:02] ^^ yeah [13:03] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [13:03] Action: Camarade_Tux surprise-hugs fire|bird [13:03] Nick change: Padhu -> Padhu_1 [13:03] pupit (n=pupit@91.150.106.33) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:03] y0 Camarade_Tux, how's it going? [13:04] how do i protect my pc against nmap scans / os fingerprinting? [13:04] pupit (n=pupit@91.150.106.33) joined ##slackware. [13:05] unplug the cat5e cable [13:05] have any idea : [13:05] is there any idea : http://releases.compiz-fusion.org/0.5.2/emerald-themes-0.5.2.tar.gz [13:06] show me : "404 - Not Found" [13:06] Padhu_1 (n=Padhu@58.68.26.146) left irc: "Good Bye.........." [13:06] surely with a l33t name like "s14ckw4r3" you can figure out the internet [13:06] hey thrice` [13:06] afternoon fire|bird, how goes ? [13:06] fire|bird: fine, it's terribly hot here (35C at 6pm) but it's ok [13:07] thrice`: excellent, thanks. you? [13:07] fire|bird: and you? [13:07] Camarade_Tux: excellent, thanks. :) [13:07] lol [13:07] surprise hug [13:08] Action: jeev surprise-kicks comrad [13:08] Nick change: S14ckw4r3-10v3r -> S14ckw4r3 [13:08] pidgin 2.6 has voice/video support? :o [13:08] Action: Camarade_Tux surprise-dodges [13:08] thrice`, now ? [13:09] how does it pronounce "S14ckw4r3-10v3r" [13:09] Camarade_Tux: I'm just building pidgin 2.6.1 now [13:10] so anyone who nmap's me and find out the ports, cant try telnet/ftp/ssh/etc into each of them [13:10] and gain precious intel [13:10] fire|bird: he :P [13:10] mancha, hahahah [13:10] fire|bird: I'm waiting for you to report how it works ;) [13:10] s/how it works/how well it is working/ [13:10] Nick change: S14ckw4r3 -> S14ckw4r3-10v3r [13:10] you don't protect against nmap, you protect against unauthorized intrusion to your service ports [13:11] Camarade_Tux: alright, will do. :) [13:11] :P [13:11] versus authorized intrusion you ask? heh. i meant unauthorized access (or simply intrusion) [13:11] Camarade_Tux: Does the report need to be 12 pt font & double spaced? :P [13:11] mancha, yes, but if someone nmaps me and sees my OS... is not very nice [13:12] fire|bird: no no, it has to be 6pt, remember how tiny are the fonts on my computer ? :P [13:12] i am doomed :| [13:13] you can firewall packets with certain flag fingerprints that are used to narrow down OS type [13:13] Camarade_Tux: hahaha, alright. [13:13] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [13:13] this is really a bad way to think of it. you shoulnd't give a crap that someone knows you run linux. your worry should be hardening your service ports [13:13] shyko (n=shyko@201-76-78-119.flash.tv.br) joined ##slackware. [13:14] is this channel logged? [13:14] public logs, no less. [13:14] Keiffer: yes [13:15] misspwn (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:15] Keiffer: check the topic. :) [13:16] misspwn (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [13:16] dudes! from 2005??? [13:16] this is not good [13:16] major security flaw [13:16] why is public logging bad? [13:16] Keiffer: How is that a security flaw? [13:16] someone can datamine everything you say and then make your profile [13:17] Keiffer: hahaha, you are really that paranoid? [13:17] straterra's profile sould be fun then [13:17] hey guys [13:17] fire|bird, that's how companies are making money now... [13:17] it's possible dude [13:17] y0 slackytude [13:17] Keiffer: never said it wasn't, I'm just not worried about it. :P [13:17] then just be very schizo on here [13:18] nika_ (n=nika@212.45.14.5) joined ##slackware. [13:18] Nick change: nika_ -> cigarettesmoker [13:18] heh what a nick [13:18] cuba33ci (i=cuba33ci@118-160-162-13.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:18] yes, but the fact i said what bothers me will be in my own disadvantage. [13:18] Nick change: cigarettesmoker -> smoker [13:18] now they will not believe everything i say [13:18] Keiffer, just change your nick to rumplestiltskin and pretend you're a girl [13:18] haha [13:19] uva (i=bno@118-160-166-201.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:19] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:19] jeev: s/rumplestiltskin/MaryPoppins/ [13:19] Keiffer: you a girl? :) [13:19] sure [13:19] deLusion` (n=DeLusion@pool-173-65-154-93.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "r00tsecurity.org | gonullyourself.org" [13:19] my core i7 is so slow ;D [13:19] a/s/l [13:19] ^^°-°^^ <-- BATMAN [13:19] i wish i could unrar 20gigs in 30 seconds, i'd need a sexy hard drive [13:19] jeev: I'll take it if you don't want it [13:19] Action: jeev blasts batman with a shotgun [13:19] comrad, if you were right here i'ed give it to you [13:20] slackytude: nice one :) [13:20] mancha: little red riding hood/female/grandmothers house [13:20] Camarade_Tux, :D [13:20] fire's naughty [13:20] haha [13:21] but, well, batman is said to be gay so keiffer could maybe be batma [13:21] n [13:22] why? [13:22] how do you know i'm gay? [13:22] data mining [13:22] + i was how you were looking at Tony Almada [13:22] nah, jeev tells you to play a girlie, I'm just thinking of an alternative >< [13:22] Camarade_Tux, how hot is it for you? [13:23] was 35C at 6pm, probably >33C now [13:23] bah =/ [13:23] It's Almeida [13:23] heh, 31C now [13:23] supposed to get hotter tomorrow [13:24] whatever, Keiffer. [13:24] slackytude: it should be cooler tomorrow and raining soon [13:24] s/soon/one day/ [13:24] will back [13:24] S14ckw4r3-10v3r (n=fzza3a@41.99.86.90) left irc: "Leaving" [13:24] Keiffer: anyway, sorry for the bad joke, heat speaking =/ [13:25] (on me, alcohol has no effect but heat does) [13:25] you provided me cover, Camarade_Tux [13:25] comrad, Keiffer has like 47 dui's [13:26] 47? [13:26] jeev: That's better than the 35 counts of male rape you were convicted on. [13:26] eviljames: wrong! they only convicted me for 27 of them -_- [13:27] eviljames, the channel is logging asshole [13:27] Camarade_Tux: hahahahah that's a really unfortunate admission, considering that I was accusing jeev. [13:27] i thought you said what happens in canada, stays in canada [13:27] MANOWAR^ (n=valhalla@cas-118735.cascss.unt.edu) joined ##slackware. [13:27] eviljames: ^^ :D [13:27] lol comrad [13:27] basictracks (n=peter@basictracks.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:27] MANOWAR^ (n=valhalla@cas-118735.cascss.unt.edu) left irc: Client Quit [13:28] basictracks (n=peter@basictracks.demon.nl) left ##slackware. [13:28] dude, that permissive are US laws?? carrying a weapon doesn't put you in jail but a poor DUI does? [13:28] depends on state [13:29] dui is terrible in my opinion [13:29] In America, carrying weaponry is encouraged. [13:29] dui is as bad as shooting a gun into the air [13:29] NY or Washington DC are not really permissive in regards to guns for example [13:29] now it'd be good if it was in the middle of a republican convention but you know [13:29] It's your god given right to own anti-tank missiles and machine guns. [13:30] yes, DUI is. but having a gun without a licence? here you can get 10 yrs for that! and for airguns, not firearms! [13:30] Keiffer: 'here' = Canuckistan? [13:30] haha [13:30] Because I don't think our laws are quite that strict [13:31] from what i see and hear, us laws are really strict on several aspects [13:31] Yeah, like holding onto plants. [13:31] for ex, here, if you fight on the street you get a 200 $ fine [13:31] Be careful which plants you have in your house - you could get 5 years in jail [13:31] 'land of the free' [13:32] eviljames, here you get 25 if it's cocaine or heroin [13:32] eviljames, whoever believes that freedom shit is a bonafide moron and centos luser [13:32] if you want to drive drunk, carry a shotgun too, you won't be jailed -_- [13:32] comrad, you guys got some funky laws at the Kremlin [13:32] Keiffer: Cocaine or heroin are not plants. [13:32] the were at a time [13:32] Keiffer: They may have been at one point in time, but certainly not in their processed form. [13:33] oh my... thanlk you for illuminating me [13:33] on the other hand, you are being watched at every move [13:33] buy guns and beer in the 24h drive-in and use both on the way home [13:34] I was cruising through Montana buying beer & gasoline in the same stores. [13:34] you are not allowed to drink until 21. here highschool kids are drunk every day [13:34] Couldn't help but think "Wow, this is a recipe for disaster" [13:34] nah [13:36] i would have so much power if i had hi5's database.. at least for my city [13:38] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [13:38] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-uvluyjxrlvrnffii) left irc: [13:38] pupiteee (n=p@93.87.243.142) joined ##slackware. [13:39] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:39] Keiffer, where is here? [13:39] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:39] are you canadian or moronerican [13:40] shyko (n=shyko@201-76-78-119.flash.tv.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:41] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-qxoqrilweuxtwtej) joined ##slackware. [13:42] moronerican? it's that an insult? i'm gonna so torture you until you say... [13:42] europe [13:43] ... [13:43] what? [13:43] hahaha [13:43] ah europe, sink of bohemian depravity [13:43] j/k ;-) [13:43] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-qxoqrilweuxtwtej) left irc: Client Quit [13:43] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-107-71.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [13:43] wft? [13:43] why? [13:43] *shrug* better off than a nation that tortures in order to gain false evidence for a war of aggression. [13:43] Anyone find those WMDs yet? [13:43] Keiffer, kidding I'm kind of in eu too [13:44] Reav__ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:44] I don't torture people. [13:44] if you can call UK Europe [13:44] sattelite of europe [13:44] antiwire: I do. It's torture just to be anywhere near my hideous BO. [13:44] vice versa [13:44] Why wouldn't you class UK as in Europe? [13:44] eviljames, they found the WMD's, they're in my ass [13:44] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426474.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:44] and i let them go all the time [13:45] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [13:45] jeev: of that there is no doubt. [13:45] because they are an island and islands are not part of continents [13:45] jonsmith1982, it's a matter of despising metric system mostly, and the hug expense of euro mp's [13:45] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-auecubecvhktfyrc) joined ##slackware. [13:45] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:46] jonsmith1982, just an opinion, nothing more [13:46] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [13:47] did you saw "taking of pelham 123"? [13:48] yeah I think.. [13:48] tony scott [13:49] ok, my package manager for windows is on its way and I need to decide what I want to put into the database, any thoughts? [13:49] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [13:49] porn [13:50] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [13:50] or midget porn [13:50] mew mew [13:50] yeah, there will be a porn package class too, don't worry [13:50] goatse class [13:50] Camarade_Tux, "package manager for windows"? wth is that? [13:50] oh, everything [13:50] notepad++! [13:51] dive: it's a package manager for windows :D [13:51] gvim win [13:51] slackytude: toob ad notepad++ is only for windows [13:51] gvim :) [13:51] true but works fine in wine [13:51] how about a useless package manager class? [13:51] Action: dive is trying to remember the notepad replacement he used to use... [13:51] notepad2? [13:52] nope [13:52] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [13:52] edit [13:52] mewmewedit [13:53] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [13:54] damn, file transfer over ssh is so slow [13:54] 1 kb/s [13:54] o0 [13:54] scp or ftp over ssh? [13:54] with winscp [13:54] scp [13:54] wow. [13:54] samuelig (n=samuelig@62.pool85-57-151.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [13:54] try ftp over ssh [13:54] what net connection? [13:54] Keiffer: Local or over the net? [13:54] or enable compression [13:55] over the net. but both computers have good internet connections [13:55] hello [13:55] hello samuelig [13:55] elkng (n=wnb@gprs-78-243.vntc.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:55] evening [13:55] :-D [13:55] hey dive [13:56] yo [13:56] yo [13:56] round thing with string [13:56] i split up with my gf today. [13:56] heya Necos [13:56] connecting over a tor hidden service was suicidal... even the terminal had lag [13:57] Keiffer: so it's not just ssh then... [13:57] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.4.7) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:57] heya fire|bird [13:57] something ain't right [13:57] spook: eh? [13:57] antiwire, no, plain ssh wans't any good either [13:57] pupiteee1 (n=p@91.150.106.33) joined ##slackware. [13:57] umm ok...so it's not just ssh [13:58] elkng (n=wnb@gprs-78-243.vntc.ru) left irc: Client Quit [13:58] Necos: whats not clear? [13:58] and here i thought you were all happy in cloud9land [13:59] i wasnt under the impression you knew anything about my relationship [13:59] he's just trying to pick a fight like usual [13:59] welcome to single life, i've been here for years :) [13:59] Keiffer: Can you install iperf on each end to create test ip/tcp connections? [14:00] Necos: mew mew to you sir [14:00] misspwn (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:01] antiwire, yes, but how will that help me? isn't ssh traffic encrypted? so that could be the reason [14:01] both machines consume time to encrypt [14:01] Keiffer: compress [14:01] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:01] ...it will help you by testing the plain connection between the two systems. [14:02] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [14:02] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.95.86) joined ##slackware. [14:02] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:02] If you have pieces of shit on each end what do you expect to have happen? Have you looked at CPU loads during transfers? is there packet loss taking place? what have you done other than see slow speeds from scp clients? [14:03] ...? [14:03] antiwire: if you have pieces of shit on each end, you have to hold it in the middle [14:03] if the system are having issues with just encryption, enabling compression is only going to add more CPU load. [14:03] Tirili (n=opera@dslc-082-083-153-223.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:04] This is why I suggest testing the link with a non encrypting tool like iperf. it will let you bench the link minus the load of encryption on each end. [14:04] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [14:05] i don't know dude... my cpu is staying now at 99%. it's smooth though [14:05] gbowden (n=gbowden@13.Red-83-41-222.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [14:05] ... is right [14:05] 99% and tor is slow? [14:05] lol [14:05] Necos: we can't help anymore. [14:05] put the crack pipe down [14:06] pupiteee1 (n=p@91.150.106.33) left irc: "Leaving." [14:06] the CPU it pinned and he wonders why encrypted transfers are lagging [14:07] i don't know why it's at 99%. i only have xchat working now. but if i open mozzilla, a movie, radio, tor and other apss i feel no difference [14:07] but the cpu is still at 99 [14:07] i think the better question is: why are you trying to do _ANYTHING_ with a 99% cpu? [14:07] Don't you think that might be cause for concern? [14:07] concern? what can happen? [14:08] 99% cpu might be indicative of a disk problem [14:08] does pidgin does not send files over Gtalk? [14:08] Concern as in, maybe there is something else happening [14:08] Keiffer: someone could be rooting your box and you'd never know... [14:08] draeath (n=pbransfo@unaffiliated/draeath) left irc: Client Quit [14:08] Keiffer: Seriously, You just don't mind that the system is constantly pinned at 99% ? [14:08] Oh, i do have disk problems. my hdd sounds sometime odd.. clicking. sometimes it gives me boot errors [14:08] sdrv (n=sdrv@e176090205.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [14:08] oh wtf. [14:08] lol [14:09] Keiffer: What the hell is wrong with you? [14:09] i rest my case [14:09] congratulations, you're a dumbass :) [14:09] I hope nobody is rooting my linux... [14:09] I hope someone is [14:09] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:09] Action: quasar is now known as nobody. [14:09] why? [14:09] gbowden (n=gbowden@13.Red-83-41-222.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:09] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [14:10] can not comply, building in progress [14:10] pupiteee (n=p@93.87.243.142) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:10] ok.. let me put it in this way: what would you do in my case? buy another hdd? [14:10] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [14:10] it's not wothing, the whole pc is a date 1700 [14:10] No, The first step is to get a backup taken off the failing disk first. Then get a new disk. [14:10] powtrix, it does but you specify a file transfer proxy because google uses non-standard file transfers [14:10] Keiffer: i wouldnt quit my day job [14:10] Tirili (n=opera@dslc-082-083-153-223.pools.arcor-ip.net) left ##slackware. [14:11] I have backups of everything i need, thank you. [14:11] i need to use one proxy? [14:11] I'm pretty sure this is just another Keiffer troll [14:11] hahahahaha [14:11] you guys are dicks [14:11] this time it aint [14:11] Keiffer: you still an ubuntard? [14:12] spook: you're a hooker [14:12] quality. as always [14:12] spook is accepting applications? [14:12] antiwire: look at your pants [14:12] powtrix, if you are in eu put this in pidgin file proxy options for google account: proxy.eu.jabber.org [14:12] it's like a cess pool [14:12] Keiffer: Are you really being serious about this? [14:12] ananke: purge it with cleansing fire [14:13] now i have both linus and slackware [14:13] ... [14:13] eh? [14:13] Action: quasar esplodes [14:13] br00tal (n=jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:13] I wish I was the same drugs he's on... [14:13] this is the first time i've ever considered using /ignore >.> [14:14] Keiffer: Linus is a pretty cool guy, yeah? [14:14] Necos, use /shoot instead ;-) [14:14] erm did not work [14:14] Action: spook shoots everyone [14:14] ? [14:14] Action: eviljames ducks [14:14] haw haw you missed [14:15] dakarn (n=skas@93.68.47.58) joined ##slackware. [14:15] Action: Necos wore his bulletproof boxers today [14:15] Action: spook shoots eviljames's duck [14:15] Action: dive gets eviljames with a large bayonet [14:15] muahahaha [14:15] http://imagebin.ca/view/dIo11ov.html [14:15] Action: spook shoots Necos in the knee [14:15] dodge that [14:15] silly bitch, your bullets can not harm me [14:16] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-128.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:16] Keiffer, you might want to check top [14:16] Keiffer: are you really going to try or should we just stop helping you? [14:16] i'm am gonna try [14:17] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [14:17] Action: spook shoots necos with Keiffer [14:17] antiwire: should we? correction: we already have [14:17] Wouldn't top show what process is taking all the CPU time? [14:17] Keiffer: What is the disk id of the disk you hare having problems with? as in hda, sda...etc? [14:17] spook, you just made a mess for nothing... >.> [14:18] sda1 and it had problems since windows. after making it all ext3, the problems are very rare [14:18] Keiffer: pastebin us the output of: smartctl -a /dev/sda [14:18] but if i hit it (even genlty) might not work until i hiot again [14:18] Just because the problems seem rare now doesn't mean this disk isn't failing [14:19] Nick change: fredoslack -> cherche [14:19] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:20] br00tal (n=jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) joined ##slackware. [14:20] paissad (n=paissad-@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:20] Keiffer: dmesg output might be useful too. [14:20] http://pastebin.com/d397c6c05 [14:20] ok [14:21] wow. [14:21] Nick change: cherche -> fredoslack [14:21] line 53 and 66 [14:21] very bad [14:21] the raw value column for those lines should be 0 [14:22] that disk has problems that can no longer be remapped in the background [14:22] what that means? [14:22] It means you should get a new disk [14:23] i will get a new pc. this one's really dead. it's disaster [14:24] 512 mb of ram [14:24] Y281XCMC 6Y080L0422611 Out of Warranty Contract Repair Only    [14:24] no disk warranty left either [14:24] pupiteee (n=p@91.150.106.33) joined ##slackware. [14:25] so my parents are thinking about getting voip through our cable provider. is this a good idea? [14:25] what about those errors? [14:25] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.220.94) joined ##slackware. [14:26] Keiffer: The errors listing below the table are the verbose information about what we see in the table. It shows you where the read errors happened. [14:27] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [14:27] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.220.94) left irc: Client Quit [14:27] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.220.94) joined ##slackware. [14:27] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [14:27] amazon10x, whos the cable provider [14:27] if it's charter, bad idea [14:27] Modern disks automatically remap bad areas without even using SMART. When SMART finally shows a remapped area it means there were no background remapping spaces left and the disk had to mark the area bad and remap. [14:27] i always get disk problems, I had another disk that died [14:28] same strange sounds and all [14:28] Keiffer: well you said you hit them. Don't do that [14:28] samuelig (n=samuelig@62.pool85-57-151.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:28] jeev: metrocast. the internet service is decent. only 384k upload though [14:28] i hit them when they don't work and start to [14:28] what about something like vonage though. that'd probably be cheaper than going through the cable provider [14:28] hmm but they'll raise that for the voip service [14:28] Keiffer: When a disk is decides that there is an issue it will take some time for it to remap and continue. Don't hit hard disks. [14:28] jeev: really? that'd be nice [14:28] docgnome (n=dkerschn@65.101.144.42) left ##slackware. [14:28] is/ / [14:29] not for you though [14:29] for the device [14:29] my dvd-rw works if it's on a side. rarely opens. and sometime wont work anymore [14:29] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [14:29] pupiteee (n=p@91.150.106.33) left irc: "Leaving." [14:29] but i do understand them. 5 yrs of almost continous working, day and night, downloading [14:30] Keiffer: You have failing hardware. Beating it will only make it worse and more prone to errors. [14:30] i see [14:30] My DVD drive requires a few more presses than normal [14:30] and sometimes fails to read discs that are recordable (never fails on *-ROM) [14:30] mine burned about 800 DVDs [14:31] Keiffer, when did you last clean it out? [14:31] Action: dive has bricked two dvd writers by failing to take out the stupid foam washer off the first dvd in a pack heh [14:31] and when did you last zero-fill the hard disk and run a bad block check? [14:31] NthDegree, i had this cleaning cd a few months ago, but still the same [14:31] NthDegree: The laser modules can be failing or it might be dirty. Reading burned disks requires a little more power because the dye in recordable disks is not the same reflectivity as in stamped disks. [14:31] NthDegree: The drive will eventually just stop reading altogether [14:31] antiwire, probably dirty [14:31] antiwire, dmesg only shows MAC addresses and IP [14:32] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.86) left irc: Connection timed out [14:32] ViN86 (i=ViN86@VPN-ONE-THIRTY-FOUR.MIT.EDU) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:32] ViN86_ (n=ViN86@cpe-72-228-59-183.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:32] Keiffer: SMART makes it pretty clear that the disk is swiss cheese [14:32] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:32] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:32] swiss cheese? [14:32] antiwire, line 57 means 962 hours right? [14:33] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.220.94) left irc: Operation timed out [14:33] NthDegree: the uptime field is not a field that manufacturers stick to a standard on. It could be cumulative or cyclic [14:33] ah [14:33] was gonna say... [14:34] That would only be 40days [14:34] Usually the higher end SCSI disks actually report a cumulative uptime but even in those disks it's not a standard [14:35] My HDD does a cumulative uptime :D [14:35] 27574 hours = 3.14562959 years [14:35] mine does too 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 097 097 000 Old_age Always - 2326 [14:35] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:36] what pc's do you have? and what do you use them for? [14:36] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-auecubecvhktfyrc) left irc: [14:36] That line is from my laptop and I use it everyday for everything. [14:37] 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 063 063 000 Old_age Always - 27574 [14:37] My PC is over 3 years old and it's my only PC ^_^ [14:37] I don't plan to get a new one for a while [14:38] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:38] I'm trying to see what should I buy, compared to what I will use it for. [14:39] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) joined ##slackware. [14:39] Keiffer, http://tinyurl.com/nthdegree-pc [14:41] Action: NthDegree has that PC and uses it for downloading, watching films, burning CDs, chatting online and playing a few games [14:41] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [14:41] is not a state of the art [14:41] ryo (n=pirateka@70-41-219-154.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [14:41] Greetings Programs [14:41] Of course not as "state of the art" means buggy and full of crap [14:41] Nick change: ViN86_ -> ViN86 [14:41] i neever play games, and there is one aspect that bothers m: i can't play with VMs [14:42] NthDegree: whats the price of that one in the link? [14:42] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [14:42] you can build a pretty good system nowadays for under 500 [14:42] easily [14:42] ViN86, £299 (I think) when I got it 3 years ago xD [14:42] NthDegree: that's fair for 3 years ago [14:42] nifty.. I just hit 4yrs 2days on one of my hard drives (power_on_time) [14:43] and it was purchased on the high street, not online too [14:43] I tend to buy pre-built systems and use them till they die XD [14:43] by the way, just for my general knowledge, can you play windows games in linux? without many headaches... [14:44] It depends on the game but WINE can manage many of them [14:44] Keiffer, my favourites all have Linux versions, but the others work without issues if I use cracks ^_^ [14:44] Action: Camarade_Tux currently plays descent... [14:44] SimCity 3000 UK Edition screws up still [14:45] Action: quasar only plays Legend of the Red Dragon :( [14:45] but UT GOTY and UT 2003 work brilliantly (and the Linux ports suck.. I still use Wine for them) [14:45] Camarade_Tux, which? [14:45] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: "leaving" [14:45] but for serious gaming I use a PS1/PS2/PS3 [14:45] slackytude: 1 [14:46] I couldn't get the 2 to run [14:46] and anyway, I wanted to finish the 1 :) [14:46] heh, oldschool [14:46] I have an old Sony Trinitron TV to play them on now too XD [14:46] slackytude: Did you go further with snmp? I managed to get mtrg working to monitor my router and server for bandwidth and generate graphs. [14:46] mrtg is easy too [14:46] slackytude: it's pretty long ;) [14:47] slackytude: I've played it between 10 and 20 hours and still haven't finished it [14:47] antiwire, mrtg for windows as well? yeah, all working nicely. got even an alarm when toner in printer is low ^-^, trying to get alarms via notify or jabber now [14:47] nice [14:47] yeah, its fun [14:47] altho some stuff of the windows snmp service is crap [14:47] like getting free disk space [14:48] I haven't tried it for windows systems yet [14:48] what does mrgt measure? [14:48] slackytude: I hate you, I used to remove the snmp part of windows, now I'll have to keep it ;) [14:49] Camarade_Tux, eh, its fun! [14:49] slackytude: you can make it graph pretty much anything but it defaults to bandwidth [14:49] antiwire, coz all of the snmp server Ive seen so far offer the same info per default [14:49] should work easily then [14:49] yeah [14:50] it has config tools too [14:50] thats a web app or something? [14:50] yeah it generates html pages for use with apache or local viewing [14:50] you just tell it which hosts and community to monitor [14:50] nifty [14:51] Guys... what do you think would work better? OSSv4 or suffering only one audio source at once with ALSA? [14:51] PulseAudio is pissing me off with crackling [14:51] alsa + jack [14:51] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:51] altho ossv4 is supposed to be good [14:52] do you use compiz-fusion on slackware? [14:52] yes [14:53] i've read that it is a pita to config it [14:53] slackytude: well, you've been enrolled as a yaxm compat-tester, congrats :) [14:53] sdrv (n=sdrv@e176090205.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [14:53] samuelig (n=samuelig@62.pool85-57-151.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [14:54] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [14:54] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:54] Keiffer, nah [14:54] Camarade_Tux, a what tester? [14:54] awe, look at this little skiddies home folder :P [14:54] http://heidiz.by.ru/ [14:55] some semi-interesting skiddie tools [14:55] some binary stuff too that i'm sure 'strings' would show you where his botnet is and password :P [14:55] DEFPASS=r0ckw1thSH [14:55] whahaha, what a douche. [14:55] swordfish [14:55] acidchild: haha [14:56] i have this talent of making linux not working anymore when being "smart" and doing new thing on it [14:56] slackytude, is it possible to make jack work on all apps? :D [14:56] NthDegree: totally :-) [14:56] so with slackware i am taking it easy [14:56] slackytude: like a beta teste but experience has shown the problems are basically removing too much so you only need to check that your apps work [14:56] NthDegree: get a jack front end app :-) [14:56] Action: Dominian slaps acidchild [14:56] qtjack or w/e its called. [14:56] hey Matt, whats sup ho? [14:56] NthDegree, not sure about *all* apps [14:56] slackytude: yah, you can get wrappers :-) [14:57] Keiffer, just get the slackbuild.... [14:57] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [14:57] do you people use set_rlimits with jack? [14:57] yep, depends though [14:58] acidchild: qjackctl [14:58] http://heidiz.by.ru/z/ENG_FINIVEST.htm [14:58] haha check out this phiser site. [14:58] credit cards of course :-P [14:58] heh [14:58] i guess its the e-mail actully, the scripts in the '.' of it. [14:58] acidchild: bored are you/ :p [14:59] no, truely entertained by peoples stash folders :P [14:59] easily amused ^-^ [14:59] lol [14:59] acidchild: I always hid such things. [14:59] not that I ever ahd any [14:59] ofcourse, hence 'douche' [14:59] =] [14:59] s/ahd/had/ [14:59] LOL [15:00] why would someone leave things like that wide open? [15:00] wth [15:00] look at his totally insecure phpshell [15:00] :D [15:00] lol [15:00] pupiteee (n=p@91.150.106.33) joined ##slackware. [15:01] becasue they're stupid [15:01] its a trap! [15:01] he is on you now! [15:01] pft, like i care. [15:01] =] [15:02] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:02] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [15:02] 99.9% of this stuff is public anyways, its just his passwords :-P [15:03] lol [15:03] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-186-223.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:03] 13 out yet? [15:03] /topic, please check it [15:04] my $PASS = '8DelMZTd/idsQ'; # senha encriptada [15:04] lol [15:04] 13 is in poreorder [15:04] er preorder [15:04] mmm... what kind of hash is that ^^ [15:04] is it a crypt(); ? [15:04] acidchild, what is that? [15:04] Keiffer: keep up or go home. [15:04] that might not even be a hash >.> [15:04] it is. [15:05] :( [15:05] NyteOwl, for ages [15:05] :) [15:05] for sure would be easy to find these roots, he has logs in there :P [15:06] irc people are just mean. except some, like antiwire who helped me and i thank him for that [15:06] slackytude: heh. I've a subscription so whenever it gets here is when it's out :) [15:06] aweee geee [15:06] oh god, is this cpunches? [15:06] NyteOwl, I did a preorder [15:06] lol [15:06] flowers? for me? I do declare!!! [15:06] Camarade_Tux, test what? [15:06] johndee (n=id@93-81-71-163.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [15:07] has anyone tried this: http://www.fring.com/default.asp [15:07] Keiffer: nah, it's just that tech support makes you cynical and angry... [15:07] NyteOwl: no, but i know alot of people who use it. [15:07] if thats saying anything about it... or not. [15:07] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-12-114.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:07] alot of people use windows >.> [15:08] slackytude: that they load, that they work, that they work as expected [15:08] Camarade_Tux, they? [15:08] Camarade_Tux, are you talking about your package manager? [15:10] finger "myself" doesn't show any sign of intrusion, so i am nobody is rooting in me [15:10] lol [15:10] isnt it a sin to finger ourselfß [15:10] lol [15:11] I almost spit water everywhere [15:11] so the scenery is complete [15:11] slackytude: well, sort of but not exactly, talking about my xp mod (removing files from windows too) [15:11] what are u drinking antiwire? [15:11] water? [15:11] Camarade_Tux, what does the mod do? [15:12] oh, i thought its some juice.. [15:12] >.> [15:12] slackytude: lighter, installs faster, boots faster, and much nicer to use [15:13] 32C, humidex 39 :( I'm melting [15:13] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:13] Prefe (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [15:13] Prefe (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [15:13] I had a little tech call today; someone bought a new laptop and shoved a mini SD card into an SD card reader that was built into the laptop [15:13] NyteOwl: how'd you get that humidity reading? [15:13] 21600 [15:13] lol antiwire [15:13] it was shoved way in there and I had to take apart the whole laptop to extract it [15:13] hmm [15:13] Camarade_Tux, alrite, can put it up on our esx server [15:13] Necos: environment Canada [15:13] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@207.7.189.81) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [15:13] slackytude: :) [15:14] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) joined ##slackware. [15:14] hellos [15:14] I used to have a sling psycrometer(sp) so I could check it myseklf but it got mislaid at an ex-gf's and I never got it backl :( [15:14] anyone use this ( http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-cpufreq-plugin ) ? [15:15] http://www.weather.com/weather/local/90019?lswe=90019&lwsa=WeatherLocalUndeclared&from=searchbox_localwx [15:15] >.<;;; [15:15] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-74-212-56-113-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [15:16] ltbplinux (n=ltbplinu@187.36.70.146) joined ##slackware. [15:16] We're supposed to get sideswiped by Hurricane Bill SUnday/Monday [15:17] really? [15:17] Fortuantely he'll eb dowh to about F1 by the time he reaches here (or less hopefully) [15:17] Feels Like: 29 Relative Humidity: 54% [15:17] I am sorry to hear that man [15:17] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:17] its nice outside today [15:17] it's nice here - just to damn hot [15:17] sluckxz (n=sluckxz@24-116-8-105.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:17] have you been in this situation before? [15:18] bill is cat 4 already tho >.> [15:19] oh we get the edges of tropical storms and hurricanes here at elast a couple of times a year. Fortuantely as they hit the cooler northern water they lose speed both ground and wind so they're just big rainstorms when they get here [15:19] 61% humidity is ewww [15:20] we do get an occasional fulkl hurricane once in a while (every 5 years o so) as they make it this far without slowing enough. and with the temps altely the water is warmer than usual so it will slow down at a reduced rate as it moves north [15:20] what is it like? just a large thunderstorm? [15:20] I am from the midwest, we get a lot of storms. [15:20] heh no, seldom thunder and lightening but massive wind [15:21] dhw, I was born in MN so thunderstorms are nothing new :) [15:21] jeev live near you? [15:21] I used to live in MN [15:21] but I live in Nebraska now [15:21] here we enjoy storms [15:21] I just don't think you can enjoy a storm like yours [15:21] moved deeper into tornado alley huh? :) [15:21] dive, jeev lives about 30 minutes from me :P [15:21] aye [15:22] I live about 30 mintues from Pat here in MN [15:22] explains the wind then [15:22] I have good storm chase equipment [15:22] *minutes [15:22] nullboy lives about an hr away [15:22] had a car just for it too [15:22] bigpaws_lap (n=bigpaws@clsm-207-7-189-81-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:22] and a nice system to get radar feeds from any where [15:22] wow lol [15:23] stormchasing? insane... unless you're trained for it [15:23] who is in charge of the blog? and this channel? [15:23] it's not that insane [15:23] have you never wanted to see a tornado? [15:23] oh hell no :) [15:23] tornadoes are actually quite beautiful [15:24] as long as they are not taking down peoples homes =/ [15:24] ha, that's a given [15:24] tornadoes don't kill people, the bricks that they fling do... [15:24] anyone nioticed an increase in "bad bots" on web sites lately? [15:24] we get earthquakes and wild fires here. [15:25] firestorms is really more accurate [15:25] dhw: you're a storm chaser? [15:25] I have lived in CA and only was there for one earthquake [15:25] not really [15:25] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:25] antiwire: where at? i forgot [15:25] I put a lot of money into it [15:26] storm chasers are able to make money from their work [15:26] dhw: how much money? lol [15:26] depends on the footage I suppose [15:26] humidex is down to 36, temp still at 31 :( [15:26] dhw: yeah, that'd be an awesome job I think. Have you ever checked out severestudios.com? [15:26] nope [15:27] dhw: It's a site of Storm chasers, live video feeds, etc. :) [15:27] I bought a suv and all the equipment I needed to go out and do it myself [15:27] a hobby I suppose [15:27] seen "Twister" one time too many? :) [15:27] dhw: Have you taken any classes or anything? [15:27] sadly tho, due to health issues I was unable to get out and do it [15:27] no [15:28] I would do things locally [15:28] when a storm was coming around here [15:28] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-76-235-42-19.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:28] the group of people 4 of us would get in my truck [15:28] with all the crap we had and track it [15:28] lol [15:28] insane [15:28] 4 [15:28] dhw: I'm in Minnesota (SW) and am in Tornado alley. :) [15:28] and try and figure out which way it was going, and where the most intense part of the storm would be [15:29] the first time out, I was so excited and it was so intense, I ended up having a seizure >_< [15:29] LOL [15:29] dhw, how the hell? [15:29] i think that's your brain telling you something... like, DONT DO IT [15:29] I have [15:29] epilepsy [15:30] computers can cause me to have seizures [15:30] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:30] or when I am working on something rather hard I tend to get tremors [15:30] and after a while if I keep making my self work ill end up with a seizure [15:30] as it was my first time out, there was a lot for me to do [15:30] getting all my things setup [15:31] getting a good connection to the satellite, to get radar images and data on the storm [15:32] a ambulance came and took me to the ER [15:32] there are probably better places for a seizure than a area with a Tornado [15:32] oh god yes [15:32] I can't drive, so I had find someone that wanted to do this also [15:32] http://www.surfthechannel.com/episode/399/66412.html [15:32] whoops, sorry [15:32] I was able to find two other people to do this [15:33] so there would be driving 24/7 if need be [15:33] with the other two people switching [15:33] I had agreed to pay for everything for them too [15:33] I want to go get a hotel room in a beach hotel when a hurricane rolls through [15:33] oh man in the ER they had to take my blood [15:33] wow, that's nuts... >.> [15:34] they dropped the needle to draw blood [15:34] it fell on the floor and they stuck it back in my arm [15:34] and you let them? [15:34] I was to far gone from the seizure [15:34] I could not stop them [15:34] but you knew it happened... [15:34] right [15:34] I saw it happen but was so confused about things [15:35] after a seizure, things are very hard to do normally you sleep for like 20 hours [15:35] What shall I use for dual monitor system. Xinerama or XRandR? [15:35] Or maybe here is something else. [15:35] anyways the injection site ended up getting infected [15:35] and that was the first time out [15:36] shik4nt4z4: nvidia? [15:36] pupiteee (n=p@91.150.106.33) left irc: "Leaving." [15:36] or ATI? [15:36] acidchild: Intel. [15:36] I have a laptop. [15:36] oh i c [15:36] Since you know you seize don't you think it would be prudent to avoid situations that freak you out so you don't put people around you in more harm than they already are? [15:36] With VGA outout. [15:36] antiwire: why live life? :) [15:37] why have friends? :) [15:37] it happened all in the middle of it antiware [15:37] Is it possible to do what I want? A second display for my laptop while the builtin one is on too? [15:37] and they know I have seizures and know what to do [15:37] I am fine after them, infact going to the ER is not even required [15:38] acidchild: I didn't not to live but knowing you seize is a serious thing and when chasing a tornado might not be the best thing to do if you know that will cause you seize [15:38] didn't say* [15:38] I did not know it was going to happen [15:38] -shrugs- my friend has seizures and he's a speed freak [15:38] Nick change: gar0t0 -> michaeljackson [15:38] well, man has to pass on his limits [15:38] it was most likely due to the lack of sleep I also had the night before [15:38] Nick change: michaeljackson -> gar0t0 [15:38] each time I have a seizure it resets things [15:38] he's hit he road a few too many times while blacking out [15:39] and over time things build up and then one day ill have a seizure [15:39] I cracked my skull from a blood pressure blackout [15:39] what? [15:39] trust me I really really wish I did not have seizures [15:39] I am not able to drive [15:39] and I am 25 [15:40] just be thankful you dont use windows :D [15:40] lol [15:40] so I try and enjoy as much as I can [15:40] you are able. the system won;t let you drive [15:40] well, I don't know how to drive [15:40] and I don't think I would risk it either [15:40] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [15:40] acidchild: tell that to fire|bird :P [15:41] agentc0re|work: hahahaha [15:41] I have had seizures in cars many times with friends [15:41] one time coming home from the doctors [15:41] agentc0re|work: :P [15:41] and they are not sure what causes them [15:42] they think it could be the computer/video games [15:42] but then they also think it could be not those things [15:42] yeah or tornadoes [15:42] so they put me on as much antiseizure meds as they can [15:42] So, Xinerama, XRandR? Or... [15:42] do sports [15:43] Let me suggest you not play Descent 1,2 or 3. They'de give someone with nerves of steel vertigo heh [15:43] you just don't understand I suppose, there is a reason there are two other people with me tho [15:43] this is turning into a sob story [15:43] I do. I've had friends and colleagyues who are epileptic. SOme worse than others [15:43] Sorry ill stop talking about it [15:43] We understand you seize and that sucks but you also seem to know you seize so you have to do what you have to do. [15:44] do sports dude.. meditate [15:45] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [15:46] well les change the mood! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6260397662981002645 [15:46] what movie i should see? [15:46] NSFW! [15:46] samuelig (n=samuelig@62.pool85-57-151.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:47] roorah (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:47] roorah (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [15:47] COOL [15:48] Not Safe For WOmen? [15:48] ;P [15:48] NyteOwl: LOL [15:49] are those static leds displays? or they spin ? [15:49] next time i see missyjane i'm just going to yell, "Booyah!" [15:49] :P [15:49] is there any way I can detect what video card I have on my laptop? [15:49] like will it show up in dmesg? [15:49] it's static LEDs and the wheels turn like wheels do [15:49] lspci? [15:49] you blink the LEDs at a frequency to match the rotation of the wheels [15:50] perfect [15:50] thank you :) [15:50] np [15:50] VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Quadro NVS 140M [15:50] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [15:50] so basicaly those 3 lines of leds generate the whole image? [15:50] yes [15:50] -v gives more detail, the more v's in fact the more stuff [15:50] that's awesome [15:50] then I can use lsmod to check to see if I have the drivers installed [15:51] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:51] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) joined ##slackware. [15:52] if you do lspci -v it'l tell you if a module (driver) is associated to it already [15:52] http://pastebin.com/m1bdd70ad [15:52] okay [15:52] Kernel modules: nvidiafb [15:53] I just don't see the nvidia control panel [15:53] which made me think it's not installed [15:53] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:54] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-128.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:54] maybe ill try these [15:54] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/nvidia-driver/ [15:54] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/nvidia-kernel/ [15:55] that sounds like a framebuffer driver (the one in lspci's output) [15:55] that's what I was thinking [15:56] so ill try those things on slackbuilds.org [15:56] what programming languages do you recommend? [15:56] python ftw! [15:56] perl [15:56] The terminal types. dmesg | grep sd and I get a warning> Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods [15:56] ADA [15:56] i am so behind [15:56] :> [15:56] lol, ada [15:57] i knew only qbasic [15:57] What does it mean and how to improve [15:57] Action: NyteOwl likes ADA [15:57] a century ago [15:57] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:58] srecko, ignore that [15:58] dhw, those sound promising, just make sure the driver they link to supports your card. nvidia should give that info on their intartubes [15:58] dhw, i dont know if you are aware of this, but the nvidia framebuffer kernel driver conflicts with the nvidia X driver [15:58] dakarn (n=skas@93.68.47.58) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:58] yep [15:58] Enter mount-t vfat / dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb [15:58] hrm [15:58] mount: unknown filesystem type 'vfat' [15:59] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.33.149) joined ##slackware. [15:59] what should I do then? [15:59] try to install and see if it complains [15:59] dhw, it is probably not loaded unless you loaded it [15:59] the fb driver, that is [16:00] I checked nvidia.com for my driver [16:00] python seems nice [16:00] Linux Display Driver Version 169.04 BETA 169.04 November 16, 2007 [16:00] that's the newest one they show [16:00] for my card [16:00] nvidia-driver (180.29) [16:00] that's on slackbuilds [16:00] maybe that wont support my card [16:00] dhw: it does. i probably have the same laptop as you [16:01] use the slackbuilds.org one [16:02] okay thanks sahko [16:02] I need to get both correct [16:03] they both seem to use the same file NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.29-pkg0.run [16:03] driver & kernel? yeah [16:04] srecko, zgrep VFAT /proc/config.gz [16:04] grazymax (n=grazymax@host187-86-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:04] does it matter which one I install first? [16:05] gzip: /proc/config.gz: No such file or directory [16:05] srecko, zgrep VFAT /proc/configaa.gz [16:05] oops [16:05] ignore :P [16:05] dhw: of course, the scripts come with README files [16:05] srecko, custom kernel I take it? [16:06] oh perfect thanks again [16:06] i dont think its mentioned, but you need the kernel module first [16:07] is kind of obvious i guess [16:07] s/is/its [16:07] well those readme's blow [16:07] oh okay [16:07] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [16:07] were you able to get your sound working? [16:08] srecko, sounds like you mind not have vfat support in kernel [16:08] s/mind/might [16:10] dhw: if you are talking to me sound works out of the box, but for pc speaker you have to edit /etc/rc.d/rc.modules and enable it. pcskr is disabled by default. i guess non laptop users dont need that [16:10] s/that/it [16:10] hi [16:10] what's the / thing? [16:11] s/is/its s/mind/might [16:11] substitution [16:11] ah okay [16:11] e.g. perl/sed regex style [16:11] I did a nvidia-switch --check-nvidia [16:11] Keiffer: info ed [16:12] I get checking libGLcore.so-xorg....ERROR: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so-xorg does not exist!!!!! [16:12] checking libGLcore.la-xorg....ERROR: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.la-xorg does not exist!!!!! [16:12] so I am guessing I need those [16:12] libglx [16:12] also missing [16:12] dhw, have you installed both files? [16:12] libGL.so.180.29....ERROR: /usr/lib/libGL.so.180.29 [16:12] correct [16:12] ok, now modprobe nvidia [16:12] went through and did the installpkg [16:13] dhw: is this x86_64 maybe? [16:13] FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.29.5-smp/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko): Invalid module format [16:13] nope 32bit [16:13] oh, nevemind then [16:13] dhw: did you actually install the package? [16:13] err, -current? [16:13] as far as I know running installpkg on the file created in /tmp installs it right? [16:14] the slackbuilds on SBo won't work 100% correctly on -current [16:14] there is a nvidia-switch --install [16:14] but I did not run that [16:14] good [16:14] that's meant for doinst.sh *only* :) [16:14] okay, so it's not for me to use [16:14] :) [16:15] pprkut: do the ones you have on github work? [16:15] mm, let me look [16:15] guess not, but I can put them on there [16:15] wait a sec [16:17] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.62.186) joined ##slackware. [16:17] srecko, you still with us? Are you using a custom built kernel? [16:18] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "Ho_ça kal1n." [16:19] should I remove the package then? [16:20] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [16:20] dhw: umm, not necessarily needed, but probably a good idea before installing the correct one [16:20] srecko1 (n=srecko@93-138-20-121.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [16:20] okay [16:21] I ran nvidia-switch --cleanup [16:21] now I have to edit xorg.conf? [16:21] sahko, dhw: ok. -current compatible version on github, in the 13.0 branch [16:22] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:22] how do I remove the package? [16:23] removepkg nvidia-driver [16:23] removepkg blabla [16:23] okay thank you [16:23] pprkut: http://github.com/pprkut/slackbuilds-beta/tree/master ? don't see it [16:23] ryo (n=pirateka@70-41-219-154.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: [16:23] do I need to do that to the kernel part also? [16:23] http://github.com/pprkut/slackbuilds-beta/tree/13.0/good [16:24] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:24] oh right. thanks [16:24] dhw: no, you can use upgradepkg there [16:25] okay [16:25] just grab the slackbuilds from the link I posted and create new packages [16:25] you should be fine then [16:25] okay [16:26] and still use the same .run file? [16:26] how do I use github to download? [16:26] never used this before sorry [16:27] git clone to get a certain branch if I remember correctly, been a while [16:27] when you see the content of each file right click 'save link as [16:28] 'in the raw link [16:28] if you dont wanna use git [16:28] okay [16:28] you can also download tarballs of the whole tree somewhere, but don't ask me where exactly [16:29] thank you all for your help [16:29] I must have failed to download with git clone some how [16:31] you probably have to switch to the 13.0 branch [16:31] git checkout 13.0 [16:31] dont I just use git://github.com/pprkut/slackbuilds-beta.git [16:32] yes, but afterwards ;) [16:32] oh okay [16:33] Nick change: ph|ber_ -> ph|ber [16:36] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-107-71.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:36] oh does your script download the file from nvidia itself? [16:36] not automatically, no [16:37] oh I just saw it in the .info [16:37] yes, that's the file needed [16:37] but you have to download it yourself [16:37] okay [16:37] glad I asked then [16:38] no worries, the SlackBuild would have just aborted not finding the source [16:38] oh [16:38] I like these slackbuilds [16:39] no upgragepkg [16:39] hm? [16:39] for the kernel [16:39] then it wasn't installed [16:40] before [16:40] I thought you said to use upgradepkg [16:40] since I did not uninstall the kernel one [16:40] only the driver one [16:40] then upgradepkg should work [16:40] okay [16:41] shyko (n=shyko@201-76-78-119.flash.tv.br) joined ##slackware. [16:42] root@Thinkpad:/tmp# modprobe nvidia [16:42] FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.29.5-smp/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko): Invalid module format [16:42] rats [16:42] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [16:42] still getting the same errors [16:42] upgradepkg --reinstall would work the same as installpkg if it's not installed already :P [16:42] upgradepk --install-new will do both [16:42] +g [16:43] dhw: somethings wrong with your kernel setup [16:43] iirc --reinstall will not install if it isn't there already [16:43] there was mention of using a patched/differnt source when compiling external modules on a s-mp kernel [16:43] the kernel itself or the nvidia-kernel [16:43] maybe it is not compiling against the right kernel sources [16:43] mancha, yep [16:44] kernel itself [16:44] przemoc86 (n=przemoc@chello089079179132.chello.pl) left irc: Client Quit [16:44] hrm [16:44] err, --install-new is what i was thinking about [16:44] do you have the colonel sources for the kernel you're running? [16:44] yeah, the kernel sources, like the others said [16:44] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089079179132.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:44] my brain is kinda durp right now [16:45] correct [16:45] I can't find the link with the info [16:46] do I need to have NVIDIA nForce/nForce2 chipset support enabled? [16:46] I did not think I would since my board is intel [16:46] the mother board that is [16:46] no, don't think so [16:47] no, that's a chipset dhw [16:47] that's what I thought [16:47] dhw: are you using slackware's unmodified kernel? [16:47] no [16:47] well I mean I have not changed any code or anything [16:47] just compiled my own kernel [16:48] do you have CONFIG_MODULES=y ? [16:48] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:48] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) joined ##slackware. [16:48] oops [16:49] So, who here knows a lot about signals? [16:49] correct CONFIG_MODULES=y [16:49] signals are bad... use a telephone :P [16:50] you're trying to catch one? [16:50] i don't know what pprkut's script looks like (i am sure its very nice). you have to make sure that the module is being built against the right kernel source and being pub in the right /lib/modules/* dir [16:50] dhw, http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware//extra/linux-2.6.27.7-nosmp-sdk/README.TXT [16:50] NqqmNet (n=bambam@87.120.157.27) joined ##slackware. [16:51] hey...i have problems witch vsftpd, when i try to change directory says to me 550 Failed to change directory. i'm with slackware current [16:51] with* [16:51] on+ [16:51] using+ [16:51] sounds like permissions [16:51] that's not a slackware problem, but probably a perms one [16:52] what is that for dive/ [16:52] to get rid of smp? [16:52] dhw:are you using smp or not? [16:52] correct [16:52] i think he meant yes lol [16:52] Linux Thinkpad 2.6.29.5-smp #2 SMP Wed Jun 17 00:52:17 CDT 2009 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7500 @ 2.20GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [16:52] sorry yes I am using smp [16:52] wow really powerful tunder storm above me [16:53] mancha, i change permissions to ftp:ftp [16:53] NqqmNet: on all the dirs and files below ftp_root? [16:53] so I should use this then? [16:54] no [16:54] oh okay [16:54] dhw: can you pastebin what dmesg says? [16:54] all of it? [16:54] Necos, mhm [16:55] just the relevant part, and *pastebin* please, not directly in the channel :) [16:55] you've compiled your own kernel so you don't care about the slackware defaults anymore. just make sure you're compiling against your source [16:55] right [16:55] I just dumped dmesg to a file is that okay? [16:55] what things are you looking for [16:56] http://pastebin.com/m28a69651 [16:57] samuelig (n=samuelig@62.pool85-57-151.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [16:57] tije (n=tije@189.175.113.242) joined ##slackware. [16:57] did you rename your kernel something special ? [16:58] actually, the output of "ls /lib/modules/" might be useful [16:58] there's some versioning issues at the end of dmesg there [16:58] dhw: dmesg says you built the module against a different kernel source [16:58] hm [16:58] do you have /lib/modules/$(uname -r) ? [16:59] shyko (n=shyko@201-76-78-119.flash.tv.br) left irc: "Leaving" [16:59] I downloaded newer version of the kernel source code [16:59] root@Thinkpad:/lib/modules# ls [16:59] 2.6.29.5/ 2.6.29.5-smp/ [16:59] dhw, uname -r [16:59] ok, compiled kernel has to jive with kernel source, can't mix and match here [17:00] root@Thinkpad:/lib/modules# uname -r [17:00] 2.6.29.5-smp [17:00] I have made a mistake that I am unaware of =/ [17:00] sbopkg ignores dir named in/etc/passwd for default in script; this is bad bc I put required path into passwd; had to change script to respect mah authoritah [17:00] this was my first time using slackware, and from what I was reading I had to update the kernel source to beable to get the thinkpad running right [17:01] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:01] you built against 2.6.29.5 not 2.6.29.5-smp [17:01] hm [17:01] dhw: -current has newer kernels 2.6.29.6 [17:01] so I should update my source again? [17:01] Action: quasar respects Quiznos' authoritah by default. [17:02] yay [17:02] dhw, you have to put your house in order. first thing to do, match the running kernel to the source tree. you need the source that the running kernel was made from. exactly. [17:02] dhw, just make sure you actually boot up using the new kernel you just compiled [17:02] it should be that kernel [17:02] dhw, pasetbin lilo.conf please [17:02] okay [17:03] you can't compile a kernel then later update sources and hope everything will be good if you expect to build modules. [17:03] dhw, is that what you did? [17:03] http://pastebin.com/m325b7cf0 [17:04] I had one kernel [17:04] update the sources [17:04] rebuild everything [17:04] dhw, now ls -l /boot/ [17:04] and put it in the /boot dir [17:04] ok [17:04] and you named local version to -smp? [17:05] that's just the name it had when it compiled [17:05] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [17:05] http://pastebin.com/m1ca67b15 [17:06] dhw, I think to make things a little clearer you should another local version than -smp since it's used by slackware and that was cunfussing me [17:06] when I compile I run this [17:06] http://pastebin.com/m2c07caf4 [17:06] pupiteee (n=p@93.87.207.153) joined ##slackware. [17:06] dive what do you mean? [17:06] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: ""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."" [17:07] dhw, did you copy .config to boot/config? [17:07] no [17:07] do it [17:07] there is one but it's old [17:07] please [17:07] okay [17:07] dhw, wait [17:07] um...what for? [17:07] just as .config or as like a back up [17:07] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [17:08] well actually probably not inportant [17:08] oh, I remember why I updated my source [17:08] to get the network card working [17:08] Q, does ppkrut's script or the nvidia runfile use /usr/src/linux (or the dest of the sym) by default? [17:08] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:08] it would not work with the default source from slackware 12.2 [17:08] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:08] I do not know that, I did not check that out [17:09] hmm [17:09] /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build [17:09] thats the destination, but where does it look for kernel sources? [17:09] if not changed in the enviroment [17:09] well one thing that you might want to remember for later is that 'make' now builds bzImage and modules, so you only need make and make modules_install [17:10] lilo [17:10] oh okay so I do not need make modules and make modues_install [17:10] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-76-235-42-19.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:10] make && make modules_install (is all) [17:10] dhw, you need 'make' and 'make modules_install' [17:10] I think before I just used make && make modules_install [17:11] mancha: this links to the source [17:11] http://pastebin.com/m1d8c8280 [17:11] that would be fine? [17:11] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:11] I don't know. If you compile kernel, boot up with it. Should work. [17:12] pprut, ok so it takes the kernel symlink from that module dir [17:12] then it should be building agasinst the right thing [17:12] if it was not working right how would my eth0 be working? [17:12] dhw, no [17:12] pupiteee (n=p@93.87.207.153) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:12] that's not correct [17:12] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/Gfvduk90.html [17:12] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.62.186) left irc: "Leaving." [17:12] http://pastebin.com/m61d6e186 [17:13] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:13] ok, without seeing the actual compilation/installation output i have no further ideas. from the sound of it it should be compiling against the right kernel source tree. [17:13] dhw, http://pastebin.com/d675b6181 [17:13] just look at the write up i posted [17:14] it will help you keep everything sane [17:14] okay [17:14] pupiteee (n=p@93.87.207.153) joined ##slackware. [17:14] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:14] mancha: right, he's building against the correct 'uname -r', but .config changed since he compiled his kernel. My guess [17:15] antiwire, I should use that then? [17:15] is /boot/config necesary or not then? [17:15] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "pqp!" [17:15] no [17:15] dive: not required [17:15] right [17:15] dhw: that will get your own kernel and modules that will not conflict with any of the stock stuff [17:16] then install the nvidia driver after all that [17:16] after you boot into the new kernel that is [17:16] s/driver/kernel/ :) [17:16] okay [17:16] and maybe make the local version something descriptive [17:16] what kernel version should I use? the same one I am now? [17:16] dhw, use any source you have [17:16] pprkut: NO I'm sure I meant what I said. [17:17] antiwire: the driver is unaffected by kernel changes [17:17] dhw, so long as it's pure source ;-) [17:17] there's no reason any re-compilation is needed unless thecurrent kernel, source, and modules don't jive [17:17] well something isn't [17:17] pprkut: Not if he is in the old kernel still. the installer will, by default, build for the current running kernel which puts the driver in the wrong place. [17:18] there is -K and -k that can be used with the nvidia installer though [17:18] dhw, by the way, which model thinkpad do you have? [17:18] antiwire: we are talking about different things :). you mean the .run installer, I talk about slackbuilds [17:18] which he is using [17:18] oddsock (n=oddsock@dynamic-250-205-23-217.broadband.blic.net) joined ##slackware. [17:18] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui beber" [17:18] dive: t61 [17:18] i am beginning to suspect that he driver won't build to that kernel. can anyone who has used that driver confirm it works on his kernel? [17:19] yes, I can [17:19] dhw, nice. Got a couple of dinosaurs here: T21 and T42 [17:19] ok then, its a local config issue. sloppy kernel compilation, user error. [17:19] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC02F02.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:19] case closed :) [17:19] So still, I meant what I said [17:19] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-29-211.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:19] thanks for helping with it [17:20] you're welcome [17:20] I have never seen a linux community so willing to help out people like you guys do [17:20] I am used to get brushed off or banned [17:20] they probably ban or brush you off becuse they don't know the answer [17:21] I normally just search google and forums so I don't have to deal with people being assholes tome [17:21] pupiteee (n=p@93.87.207.153) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:21] samuelig (n=samuelig@62.pool85-57-151.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:21] besides searching first is always a good idea [17:21] i just looked at the clock and its 4:20 sheesh i wish! [17:21] "you can compile the kernel?? i just press this magic ubuntu button here..." [17:21] haha, like the LQ post. [17:21] yep, and we are only arseholes to people that come here and behave like that themselves ;-) [17:22] behave!!! [17:22] pprkut, what the 'nutcracker'? [17:22] should I go with kernel source 2.6.30.5 [17:22] sorry sledgehammer! [17:22] since it's the current stable version [17:22] Action: slackytude goes off [17:22] see ya [17:22] bb [17:22] dive: no, the one where he's complaining about slackware being not updated in years, etc [17:22] oh that one, yeah [17:23] pupiteee (n=p@93.87.207.153) joined ##slackware. [17:23] closed now [17:23] well, that's spuring [17:23] dive: well, that was to be expected [17:23] dhw, then you'll have to make sure the nvidia driver you have builds against 2.6.30.x [17:23] dhw, you should be able to use latest stable, yes [17:24] mancha++ [17:24] okay [17:24] I can confirm it works with 2.6.30 as well, but it's not a good decision for 32bit right now [17:24] antiwire: still having issues with 2.6.30 and nvidia on slack32? [17:25] 2.6.30.5 + nvidia beta still doesn't let kde4 composite work [17:25] tested last night again [17:25] damn [17:25] do you have a version you would recommend? [17:25] use 2.6.29.x for slackware-current 32bits [17:25] okay [17:25] antiwire, tried 'Option "UseCompositeWrapper" "True"'? [17:25] thank you [17:26] dive: no options matter [17:26] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:26] hmm [17:26] dive: something changed in the kernel and the nvidia beta drivers haven't caught up yet, at least that's what it seems like [17:26] and it's specific to 32bits [17:26] antiwire, I haven't tried upping my 12.2 box with the nvidia card yet [17:27] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A75FC1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:27] well as soon as 13 is out [17:27] s/well/will [17:27] antiwire: could you help me with a couple pam config's? [17:27] chopp: which ones? [17:27] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [17:27] er wait, 2.6.29 or 2.6.29.6/ [17:28] .6 would be newer [17:28] 2.6.29.6 + nvidia beta under slackware-current 32 works fine. the issue happens only when I upgrade to 2.6.30.* with everything else the same [17:28] same driver version same config (make oldconfig'd) [17:28] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:28] okay [17:29] yeah, .6 is fine [17:29] luceroz (n=luceroz@76.31.194.150) left irc: "leaving" [17:29] I am for sure going to buy a copy of slackware [17:29] antiwire: well I've spent most of my time here retrying thinkfinger, and it just is a no go for some reason. I think fprint is working fine. http://omploader.org/vMjZnNg [17:30] antiwire, does the nvidia driver work though without compositing? Any other problems I out be aware of? [17:30] everything else seems fine, even 3d [17:30] antiwire: just your "su" from /etc/pam.d [17:30] dive: 3D works fine, only issue is compositing [17:30] ok. I can live without comp. It's main a web dev box and some gaming too. [17:30] dive: At least only issue I know of [17:30] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-57.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:30] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [17:31] chopp: k one sec [17:31] antiwire, pprkut ok thanks. [17:31] chopp you've setup pam on your slackbox? [17:32] mancha: yes I have [17:32] only pam or was that a byproduct of some gnome installation? [17:33] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-50-115.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [17:33] mancha: pft, We do it right [17:33] Full out PAM integration [17:33] \o/ [17:33] do I need to remove /usr/src/linux in order to change the link? [17:33] using cp -R /usr/src/linux /usr/src/linux-2.6.29.6-thinkpad seems to fail [17:33] it does not update it at least [17:34] chopp: this should do it, and that comment is there for a reason. http://pastebin.com/m659801ec [17:34] remind me not to use omploader again :P [17:34] chopp: the comment if from a different type of setup [17:34] chopp: why not? I like it :> [17:35] that involved all the authentication stuff and upgrading some default slackp stuff so you can use the HAVE_PAM directives, etc [17:35] dhw, cp the source tar there and untar it, then if you want a link from linux to it, rm linux and ln -s linux-version linux [17:35] thrice`: it loads super slow for me [17:35] mancha: yes [17:35] mancha: I even rebuilt the required X and KDE stuff [17:35] ah okay [17:35] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [17:35] mancha: Like i said, full integration [17:35] hello [17:35] antiwire: thanks, I'll play with that [17:36] send it to pat so he can mainstream it [17:36] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [17:36] mancha: I could login to KDE via xdm and my fingerprint [17:36] mancha: they don't want it [17:36] what non-slack based distros do you guys like? [17:36] dhw: what are you trying to do? [17:36] just wanted to update /usr/src/linux [17:36] the reason Pat doesn't include pam isn't because he hasn't "figured it out" yet ;) [17:36] to go to the new source [17:36] i had to install debian today at work, as isolinux on slack was failing on my work pc. seems nice. [17:36] yesyes: none of course :P [17:36] mancha: I even did samba and cups too [17:37] any reason to install new kernel-mmap_min_addr-4096-noarch-1 package?, i have upgrade kernel packages too [17:37] upgraded [17:37] it's about the only non desktop orientated distro i know about. fedora maybe, but i don't know too much about that. [17:37] what does cat /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr say? [17:37] dhw: ok. you know 'cp' doesn't do links, right? [17:37] srecko1 (n=srecko@93-138-20-121.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [17:37] yesyes: What's "non desktop" about Slackware? [17:38] prodigal1 (n=superdud@dynamic-216-211-51-59.tbaytel.net) joined ##slackware. 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[17:39] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-193-131.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:39] I was just having a problem since the linux in the new source folder was linking to the old source code [17:39] well, okay. it doesn't pander to desktop users. heh. [17:39] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:39] join #conky [17:40] stybla_ (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:40] dhw: ok, so current status? :) [17:40] yesyes, slackware comes with kde, xfce, fluxbox, blackbox, a few tabbed window menagers... [17:40] if it is running it should have a process id :) as root do ps aux | grep conky [17:41] it does not seem to be using the .config [17:41] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-193-131.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [17:41] I closed the lid to my laptop last night, and left X running, when I came back on today conky was still running but wont show up with ps -a [17:41] well, i meant it isn't mainly geared toward desktop users, but i'm willing to retract my statement if it'll make life easier ;) [17:42] antiwire, you should put all those scripts on nice site with a README [17:42] does anyone know how I can force the conky process to show its PID? I need to shut it down [17:42] weird [17:42] prodigal1, pgrep conky [17:42] prodigal1: pgrep conky [17:42] thx [17:42] it it still runnin or just have a stale screen image? [17:42] or, pkill conky [17:42] can I copy the .config from the old source directory? [17:42] instead of /proc [17:43] mancha: Hell no [17:43] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:43] mancha: people will come in here and bitch at me. [17:43] pupiteee (n=p@93.87.207.153) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:43] antiwire, to the wiki with you ;-) [17:44] one more person to bitch at wouldn't be so bad [17:44] dhw: 'zcat /proc/config.gz > /usr/src/linux-$version/.config' doesn't work? [17:44] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:44] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [17:44] I don't think that a wiki or README or anything about PAMifying Slackware is a good thing. People already try to do moronic things as it is. Does anyone in here want some noobs coming in going "i used scripts from someone in here to install PAM and now I'm locked out help me"? [17:45] dhw: but generally, yes you can [17:45] why is PAM so bad? [17:45] Nigromante: it's not. [17:45] ah ok [17:45] Nigromante: Did I say it was bad? [17:45] the Processor family (Core 2/newer Xeon) in the old one is like that [17:45] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [17:45] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:45] the new one is different [17:45] Guys, consider me a potential convert to KDE 4: [17:45] http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4539/84253053.png [17:45] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.162.168) joined ##slackware. [17:45] i know a woman named Pam, shes bad [17:45] no [17:45] just made me think that they were not the same .config [17:45] Pig_Pen: Pam Anderson? [17:45] dhw: which new one? [17:46] That shot is no joke [17:46] NthDegree: what do you use now? [17:46] NthDegree, lol [17:46] does she have a sister? [17:46] the one from /proc [17:46] oh, gnome i ugess [17:46] Nigromante: It has applications that cannot happen on Slackware without it [17:46] antiwire: help! I locked myself out of my lappy :P wth is wrong with your scripts? ;) [17:46] I see [17:46] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.173.49.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [17:46] dhw: well of course they are different. That's the source of your problem [17:46] nope, she is a local chic in my home town, her name is Pamela Martin [17:46] chopp: lol [17:46] amazon10x, they replaced Volume Control (control of ALSA/OSS) with Volume Manager (Control over PulseAudio) [17:46] ah Pig_Pen ok [17:46] damn, i'm really becoming sick and tired of badly implemented ocding logic. [17:46] coding * [17:47] good point [17:47] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:47] xxjx (n=xxjx@unaffiliated/xxjx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:47] stuff that wasnt clearly thought through and then segfaults when data becomes too volumnous [17:47] elinks is one [17:47] my history and bmark files are huge and elinks cannot handle them [17:47] NthDegree: are you using gnome on slack? [17:48] amazon10x, yeps, and I recompiled gnome-media to not use PulseAudio [17:48] Quiznos, ls -l ~/.elinks/bookmarks [17:48] turns out I can only have an applet for volume if I use PulseAudio [17:48] >_< [17:48] The other end of PAM is not locking yourself out but possibly making it so a blank password is accepted. [17:48] 3 lines [17:48] on the hist file [17:48] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [17:48] k? [17:49] ? [17:49] NthDegree: kde, man [17:49] then why is it not included in Slackware now? [17:49] I'm very tempted to send a "fuck you" letter to GNOME [17:49] there are 3 files of hist that i've grepped out to 2 other files. [17:49] NthDegree lol [17:49] NthDegree: haha [17:49] "screw you guys, i'm using kde" [17:49] NthDegree you'll have to flesh that 2 word out to a paragraph [17:49] Quiznos, I've never really used history [17:49] Quiznos, I would delete them [17:49] I walked away from KDE when KDE 4.x came out [17:49] Quiznos, ls -l ~/.elinks/bookmarks [17:49] okay now it's how it should be [17:50] dive it's better than bookmarking if you dont ^D [17:50] compiling [17:50] but GNOME is *even* worse O_O [17:50] ls -l /media/hda3/home/b/.elinks/bookmarks [17:50] heh [17:50] -rw------- 1 b users 2540223 2009-08-18 21:47 /media/hda3/home/b/.elinks/bookmarks [17:50] NthDegree: this kde 4.3 stuff is supposed to be pretty awesome apparently. i haven't use it yet though [17:50] holy... [17:50] i too was mad about kde 4.x though. i would've switched if it was easy [17:50] looks like xfce is the new rising star in the Linux Desktop arena [17:50] Pig_Pen, that would be LXDE [17:50] dive I dont lie when I say HUGE [17:50] I am going to find something to eat while it is doing this [17:51] I just received a gmail activation code for an email that is similar to mine but not [17:51] Quiznos, how the hell can you find anything amongst that lot? [17:51] psh, use plain openbox like a real man [17:51] dhw FEED me [17:51] that's weird [17:51] quick question, how much do you all spend on food per month? i'm trying to calculate a budget [17:51] antiwire: SUCCESS at last [17:51] dive elinks has s// [17:51] kinda [17:51] chopp: awesome! [17:51] thrice`, ion3 user now for 3 days and loving it [17:51] well, i shouldnt disparage search, i think it can do regex [17:51] NthDegree: all i want is a rightclick menu for apps, and multiple virtual desktops with active screen borders, fvwm does that for me and that is about all i use anymore [17:51] dive join #Flude for a full ls [17:52] Quiznos, that's ok I believe you ;-) [17:52] dngr (n=dngr@n11649134204.netvigator.com) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:52] tease :) [17:52] The very existence of flame-throwers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done." -unknown [17:52] Pig_Pen: you sound like a guy i know; complains about all the features on new things [17:52] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [17:52] Pig_Pen, I will probably build LXDE in the next week or so [17:52] dive altogether the hist files are 7M [17:53] i saw lxde the other day and was intrigued. somone ought to make a slackbuild for it [17:53] amazon10x: i would give a rough guesstimate of about 4 to 6 hundred dollars on food for a four member family [17:53] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [17:53] hiptobecubic (n=john@pool-173-65-85-6.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:53] depending on how many steaks i get [17:53] amazon10x, it's a set of builds... it's openbox plus a few other bits ^^ [17:53] meat is what drives the fool bill up, especially steak [17:53] so some of it is already available as slackbuilds [17:54] Action: thrice` uses openbox + tint2 [17:54] Pig_Pen: i'm a more-or-less-kind-of-sort-of-vegetarian so i guess that's good for the bill? [17:54] also it is cheaper to shop and cook for a family than it is for a single person, [17:54] antiwire: what do you think of this reference guide to modules/configs? http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/ref-guide/ch-pam.html [17:55] Pig_Pen: ahh, ok. i was thinking like 300-400 for a single guy [17:55] since you are a vegan amazon10x i bet you can get by on 2 hundred a month easy with lots of good quality fresh veggies [17:55] Quiznos, yeah that's quite a lot of hist [17:56] rachael (n=rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:56] Action: dive opens a packet of fig rolls \o/ [17:56] Pig_Pen: not straight vegan. my main food sources are eggs and tuna (sandwiches) [17:56] amazon10x: look for a local farmer's market locally grown and picked when it is ripe and [17:56] thrice`, tint2? [17:56] tuna is good, i love a good tuna sandwish [17:57] tin of sardines/tuna and a fork does me [17:57] dive: right out of the can? i usually put a bunch of mayonnaise in my tuna [17:57] dive why should I rm urls? but i'm trying to reduce main hist file (that elinks loads) by removing http://localhost and error pages [17:57] for a whole month i would set aside 2 hundred for a month, and keep a 50 in a hiding place for emergencies [17:57] it's not helping tho [17:57] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:57] Pig_Pen the nowife pile? [17:57] dive, and what do you do with your children after the fork [17:57] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:58] gm152 !!! got +v in ##Linux back [17:58] Pig_Pen: then i'll go ahead and say 300 for me since everyone says i eat ungodly amounts of food [17:58] eh? [17:58] never mind [17:58] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [17:58] yeah, when the wife isnt cooking i do bacon & eggs, or tuna, something quick & easy [17:59] Pig_Pen when I find the future MrsQuiznos, i'll larn her to cook then I'll retire. [17:59] sinkigobopo_ (n=sinkigob@unaffiliated/sinkigobopo) joined ##slackware. [17:59] blondi on radio [17:59] Nigromante, oh right, got it now lol :-) [17:59] shonudo (n=user@c-69-254-158-129.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:59] Action: Nigromante coughs [17:59] heh [18:00] i have not heard a song by blonde in a long long time [18:00] grazymax (n=grazymax@host187-86-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:00] "one way or another" played [18:01] youtube has the tunes from the late 70s and early 80s [18:01] chopp: I used that guide to figure out a lot of the pam.conf vs. pam.d/ setups [18:01] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "sleep" [18:02] antiwire: ok right on. It seemed sane to be, just checking if you had a better one. [18:02] chopp: Honestly, Installing a Distro like Debian, Fedora, SuSe into a VM will help figure out PAM. I used what other distros did as examples [18:02] chopp: I installed each of those at some point in VMs just to check out their PAM implementation [18:02] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [18:03] antiwire: great idea. I'll be all over that. :) [18:03] chopp: One of the keys to remember is that pam.conf and pam.d/ use two different syntax [18:03] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:05] back [18:05] antiwire: yeah I've yet to touch pam.conf at all yet, but now I have a working pam.d/ script, I at least know it's functioning, and can move on [18:05] chopp: I used this diagnostic tool too http://pamtester.sourceforge.net/ [18:06] you need to recompile slackware's login to use pam, dont you? [18:06] Nigromante: you need to recompile a fair amount of stuff for a full setup [18:06] still baffles me why thinkfinger didn't work for me, but whatever I guess. Alright, thanks. [18:06] I see [18:07] btw, login is part of shadow [18:08] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [18:08] About Openbox: any good XML tutorial or something? I find its config files much less friendlier than those of fluxbox, Icewm, cwm... [18:08] antiwire: to use libfprint and pam_fprint, I had to upgrade libusb [18:08] sinkigobopo (n=sinkigob@unaffiliated/sinkigobopo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:09] chopp: ah that's good to know [18:09] lol [18:09] Fatal: Image name, label, or alias is too long: '2.6.29.6-thinkpad' [18:09] oops [18:09] just s/think/fart/ and it should be ok. [18:09] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:09] That's from lilo, right? [18:09] right [18:09] dhw: j/k, btw. [18:10] I'm really considering one of the new thinkpads [18:10] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [18:10] I love mine [18:10] I just don't know how well the support will be for the ATI HD video [18:10] dhw: make a symlink to it and use that [18:10] good idea [18:10] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:10] ln -s /boot/2.6.29.6-thinkpad /boot/vmlinuz [18:10] umm [18:10] he's talking about the alias, not the name [18:11] the label? [18:11] aka label [18:11] yes [18:11] yeah, but he can point lilo at the symlinke [18:11] in lilo.conf [18:11] you don't need to symlink anythng [18:11] root@Thinkpad:/usr/src/linux-2.6.29.6-thinkpad# lilo [18:11] Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed [18:11] Added Linux-thinkpad * [18:11] Channel flood from dhw -- kicking [18:11] One warning was issued. [18:11] dhw kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [18:11] change the label in lilo.conf [18:11] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) joined ##slackware. [18:11] oops sorry [18:11] did not know I copied to many lines [18:11] that was bound to happen at some point ;) [18:11] lol [18:11] Linux-thinkpad is the label now [18:12] and that should work right? [18:12] Everybody floods their first time, it's all good :P [18:12] dhw, for LBA32 error, put the line lba32 near top of lilo.con [18:12] f [18:12] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [18:12] just put lba32 at the top of the conf? [18:12] then edit the label [18:12] yeah [18:12] okay [18:13] Added Linux-thinkpad * [18:13] works [18:13] no errors [18:13] Does anyone have a T500 that uses this ATI Mobility Radeon 3650 ? [18:13] so now restart then add nvidia drivers correct? [18:13] i guess i got the wrong impression about your error [18:13] yep [18:13] How does it work so far? is 3D support there? [18:13] dhw: that's the easy way, yes [18:13] there is a hard way? [18:13] antiwire, that was directed at dhw sorry [18:13] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [18:13] np [18:14] dhw: you could build the kernel module for the new kernel right now too [18:14] maybe I should do that now [18:14] I never edit xorg.conf [18:14] and I am not seeing now either [18:15] only see /etc/X11/xorg.conf-vesa [18:15] rachael (n=rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [18:15] dhw: by default there is none in -current [18:16] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.6) left irc: [18:16] the message displayed by nvidia-switch is just a reminder to do something if necessary [18:16] okay [18:16] well ill try and restart wish me luck [18:16] oh, and yes, you will modt likely need a xorg.conf for nvidia [18:16] I hope I have not failed [18:16] gluck [18:17] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-50-115.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [18:17] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:19] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.173.49.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:20] Quiznos: I noticed that last night. Congrats. :) [18:20] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [18:21] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [18:22] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-82-2-57-41.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:23] srecko1 (n=srecko@78-1-176-110.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [18:23] srecko1 (n=srecko@78-1-176-110.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [18:23] Humm why would I get the error [SSLCertificateFile: file '/etc/pki/tls/certs/ca.crt' does not exist or is empty] when the file does exist and has key? [18:24] is it readable? [18:24] and/or should it be? [18:25] eviljames: yeah it is 644 [18:26] is that file readable by your user? [18:26] and is it empty? [18:26] looks like world readable to me. [18:26] are keys supposed to be world-readable? [18:26] i would assume not [18:26] just because file is readable, doesn't mean parent dirs are :) [18:26] ananke, screw you and your common sense 8-) [18:26] lol [18:27] damn my idea of fixing problems :) [18:27] heh, a couple of +x on the parents and that might resolve. [18:27] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [18:27] drbd syncing a few terrabytes takes a long time [18:27] gosh [18:27] We need 10ge :/ [18:27] me too [18:27] eviljames: chmod +x -R / lol [18:27] another 4 hours until its done.. [18:27] straterra : i just kicked off an rsync of 6TB of data. [18:27] I have a 250ge fibre pipe. [18:28] ananke: I'm moving around VM's in our storage array so I can replace the old 500 GB drives [18:28] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) joined ##slackware. [18:28] it's a final resync, since the initial took place few days ago. still, it will take probably all night to do it [18:28] uh oh [18:28] And to do that..I had to bring ANOTHER array online to be able to move em [18:28] the boot failed =( [18:28] was unable to mount the hard drive [18:28] the .config must have been wrong [18:28] or something [18:29] dhw, ok, did you make your filesystem <*> ? [18:29] (and/or initrd the module to your root filesystem) [18:29] I must have forgot that part =/ [18:29] don't make filesystems unless you know what you're doing >.> [18:29] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [18:29] anyway I can boot from a cd and get access to the drive [18:29] and fix the problem? [18:29] yes you can [18:30] that's good [18:30] mount root filesystem at /mnt then chroot /mnt, mount -a, then cd /usr/src/linux-whatever and fix it [18:30] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Client Quit [18:30] what do I need just a live cd? [18:30] dhw: rule number one when compiling a kernel, keep a backup of a working version [18:30] yeah I new I shouldhave done that [18:30] don't know what I was thinking [18:30] dhw, you could use a live cd to do that if you want, but it's up to you [18:30] pprkut: I gave him complete instructions that would have provided that backup too [18:31] either way, gain access to the root partition [18:31] hm [18:31] lilo only has access to one kernel [18:31] you can do it from your slackware install cd (which i would actually recommend) [18:31] antiwire: yeah, well, did you really expect someone to follow instructions? [18:31] lol [18:31] I did, line for line [18:32] line 76 in my paste says *add* [18:32] with * even [18:32] dhw, don't use the symlink /boot/vmlinuz. in lilo.conf actually reference each kernel as vmlinuz-generic-smp-2.6.29.6-smp or whatever [18:32] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/Gfvduk90.html [18:32] 76 # Example to *add* to lilo.conf. Be sure to *add* this and leave the stock entry intact as a fall back. [18:32] lol [18:32] -_- [18:32] well I am a cock sucker [18:32] I did not add [18:32] =( [18:32] lol [18:32] I can't belive I did that [18:32] wtf is wrong with me [18:33] you stated *add* many times [18:33] dhw: First time? [18:33] hahahah [18:33] can I feel even more like a moron today [18:33] Action: Necos falls over laughing [18:33] yes you can [18:33] dhw, don't worry we all make mistakes (said the dalek climbing off the dustbin) [18:33] dhw: it's ok [18:33] dhw: don't worry. You learn most from making mistakes :) [18:33] nothing is broken you just need a boot disk [18:34] ill have to grab the install cd and burn it [18:34] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:34] and burn it? [18:34] yeah [18:34] why would you burn a cd that's already burned? [18:34] I don't have a copy currently [18:35] and now I have to find the one I used [18:35] how the heck did you install it then? [18:35] then you find it and use it. you don't need to burn it. [18:35] I used a cd, but I don't currently have it [18:35] Action: TwinReverb slaps his forehead [18:35] nevermind [18:35] it's in the trash dump [18:35] i'm sorry i asked [18:35] lol [18:35] dhw: you don't need the exact same install cd you used [18:35] okay so any slackware install disc will work [18:35] Action: TwinReverb goes and screams silently in a different channel [18:36] well I suppose I might have one of those some wher [18:36] can that system boot USB and do you have a USB stick? [18:36] dhw: for simply adding the old kernel back to lilo, yes [18:37] for rebuilding the kernel, maybe [18:37] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.95.86) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:37] it can boot from usb [18:37] I wouldn't use pre 11.0 though [18:38] do I even need the install dvd [18:38] or just disc 1 [18:38] disc 1 is fine [18:38] 1 [18:39] sweet [18:39] that's good it will take even less time now [18:39] have a good site too [18:39] 1.2mb a sec [18:39] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-86-31-102-84.popl.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Connection timed out [18:40] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:41] ugh [18:41] I think I am getting ill, time to take my meds [18:42] TAKE THEM [18:42] stybla (n=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [18:42] DO IT NOW! [18:42] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.33.149) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:42] I'm going to take my Fist and RAM IT IN YOUR STOMACH!! [18:43] should have took the blue pill - Neo [18:43] I get sick a lot, so I have meds to help with that [18:43] some of my organs or paralyzed [18:44] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:44] internal organs can become paralized? wow! i did not know that could happen [18:44] it's weird [18:44] i knew they can fail [18:44] and bad [18:45] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [18:45] they don't exactly work right [18:45] but they are not failing [18:45] That's kind of how my liver is when i drink... :P [18:45] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [18:45] hey, does anyone know what it means if a directory's user/group ownership fields no longer resolve to names and the numeric IDs that now show aren't even IDs that the passwd and group files ever had? [18:45] lol [18:45] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [18:46] antiwire: It means you chown to a more sane number. [18:46] but [18:46] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.33.149) joined ##slackware. [18:46] eviljames: it's not a sign of pwnage is it? [18:46] antiwire: I was just going to go there. Do you run apparmor or equiv? What about last touched/modified times? [18:46] I'm freaking out maaann [18:47] i've had a issue once where my current user wasn't resolving to the username for perm's and just the UID. However that UID still existed in the PW file. [18:47] agentc0re|work, that's how my brain is when I drink [18:47] antiwire: production system that has some possibility of being pwnt, or home desktop? [18:47] antiwire: The snawsberry's taste like snawsberry's! [18:47] agentc0re|work: lol [18:48] You are freaking out..... MAN! [18:48] I love that movie. [18:48] antiwire, I downloaded and untarred some source from debian last night- had user id 1000 [18:48] eviljames: I just checked on the router and 80 is disabled. it's a home system but runs httpd and occasionally it is exposed. luckily not right now [18:48] antiwire, rather than mine [18:49] the dir in question is my slackware-current tree and I just checked my rsync scripts, nothing appears to have malfunctioned [18:49] this is weird [18:49] ahhh [18:49] Perhaps your rsync has copied uid:gid from your source? [18:49] sounds like it [18:50] That's the only thing I can think of but my source is osuosl and it has been working automagic for months [18:50] unless osuosl changed something [18:50] Has anyone tinkered with the new pidgin yet? It needs libnice and farsight to do voice/video [18:50] burning cd [18:51] antiwire: are you using -a or -p ? [18:51] hiptobecubic: I built it, I didn't build the stuff needed for video/audio though. [18:51] hiptobecubic, really? They finally absorbed in gaim-vm or whatver it was called into mainstream? [18:51] eviljames: -aP [18:51] no it's not gaim-vv. they redid it apparently [18:51] fire|bird: pfft.. lame. you n00b! ;) [18:51] rsync --stats -aPvi --delete-after [18:51] raela (i=1000@rrdhcp60-213.redrover.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:51] hiptobecubic: rad! I'll try it right now [18:51] agentc0re|work: lol, why is that? [18:51] hiptobecubic, which version? [18:51] antiwire, yeah, you just need libnice and farsight working [18:52] fire|bird: So i think last i asked you were trying the winbloz thing again... get it to work? [18:52] pidgin 2.6.1 [18:52] fire|bird: i'm just jokin with ya. [18:52] hiptobecubic, is it stable? Or from svn? [18:52] http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/vv#BuildingwithVoiceandVideo: [18:52] gonna check it out [18:52] it's released already [18:52] great thanks [18:52] agentc0re|work: yeah, I know ya are. :P wrt Windows, the vm is half working, getting BSOD's. [18:52] __lupo__ (n=lupo@189.7.243.186) joined ##slackware. [18:53] fire|bird: half is better than a keyboard freeze. [18:54] fire|bird: did you install the guest additions? [18:54] LOL about that new pidgin! http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/19/2128210/Pidgin-Adds-Google-Talk-Voice-and-Video-Support-and-a-Vulnerability?from=rss [18:54] haha [18:54] dive, yeah. I was looking for farsight, there isn't a build up on sbo. Has anyone made one or should i hack it together poorly? [18:54] I don't have libnice or farsight so I'm going to disable those [18:54] agentc0re|work: Oh yeah, no doubt. I fixed that keyboard issue by having VBox take control of the keyboard and mouse. I haven't converted it for qemu yet. No, no Guest Additions yet. [18:54] hiptobecubic, just looking now [18:54] i just read that, but the vulnerability is only when used with MSN [18:55] they patched it i think anyway [18:55] fire|bird: guest additions is something you want to install. [18:55] fire|bird: esp if you keep using vmware player. [18:55] fire|bird: installs some important vmware drivers to operate correctly. might solve the BSOD's [18:55] "# Fix a crash via a specially crafted MSN message (CVE-2009-2694). " [18:56] okay cd is booting [18:56] fire|bird, trying to virtualize windows? [18:56] the poop is coming out!!1 [18:56] lol winter [18:56] agentc0re|work: yeah, definitely, but I haven't got it to work long enough to install them. :P [18:56] fire|bird: also might be worth it to slipstream all the Service packs into an i386 dir and do a sfc /scannow, and reapply the sp3. [18:56] hiptobecubic: yup, the windows install on my laptop. [18:56] hiptobecubic: Is there a source for reputable libnice packages or build scripts yet? [18:57] fire|bird: Oh, it sounded like you had. [18:57] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC02F02.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:57] fire|bird, i just got it running yesterday with kvm-qemu. it's fast as hell [18:57] agentc0re|work: yeah, I got it where it will start, but then it BSOD's :P [18:57] jaher (n=nnscript@24-205-186-242.dhcp.azus.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:57] hey fire|bird [18:57] hey lf4 [18:57] hmm I see farsight and farsight2 releases. I would hazard a guess at 2. [18:57] antiwire, just asked the same thing. i don't think there is. [18:58] agentc0re|work: I get where it will login to Windows, I get a desktop, etc. then it BSOD's [18:58] dive, it needs 2 [18:58] hm it did not boot the cd [18:58] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.33.149) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [18:58] hiptobecubic: I suppose you want to test the voice video stuff but you can use --disable-vv in pidgin build [18:58] fire|bird: are you logging in as the administrator or as a user that you created that is an administrator? [18:58] howdy folks :) [18:59] antiwire, it will build without the vv deps, it just automatically disables vv [18:59] howdy BP{k} [18:59] how goes? [18:59] hiptobecubic: a [18:59] ah [18:59] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-193-131.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:59] fire|bird: pretty boozy ;) [18:59] BP{k}: Nice! [18:59] agentc0re|work: I've tried logging in as a user that has admin privileges and a limited user, same affect. [18:59] boozy ftw! [18:59] antiwire, i am running it now, which is how i discovered that it needed extra things. It looks the same (minus a few changes to icons) [18:59] hiptobecubic: nice, building now [19:00] agentc0re|work: 12% beer consumed! \o/ [19:00] hiptobecubic: the Preferences is a little different in places, they are also adding theme support [19:00] yes [19:00] BP{k}: sounds like a good vomit [19:00] fire|bird: hrm.. have you tried safemode? I would recommend creating a whole knew user or delete an existing user's profile in doc's and settings then try to log in. [19:00] agentc0re|work: yeah, I'll give that a try, I was just messing around with it anyway. :P [19:01] winter: nah, was not too bad actually :) sorta hoppy:) [19:01] fire|bird: hows things? [19:01] fire|bird: gotta remember lots of hardware changed during the virtual conversion and somethings might be hanging that up in the users registry that was made prior to this whole thing. [19:01] BP{k}: excellent, thanks. [19:01] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-193-131.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [19:01] agentc0re|work: yeah, true. [19:02] 12% beer... weak beer + ethanol [19:03] you cant make a 12% beer in the natural way [19:03] they're just adding pure alc to it [19:03] BS [19:03] winter: you obviously don't know much about brewing [19:04] try it then [19:04] proove [19:04] prove [19:04] prove [19:04] hiptobecubic: I wasn't going to do it. lol [19:04] :D [19:05] BECAUSE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!!1 [19:05] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [19:05] agentc0re|work: haha, I've restarted it so much now it's going through chkdsk. :P [19:05] I installed Conky last night using SlackBuilds, now today, a few features I want to use are unavailable in my current version, what is the best way to update a slackbuid?? [19:05] winter, he meant correct your spelling mistake, I believe. [19:05] fire|bird: LOL [19:05] but it's still impossible [19:05] prodigal1, update it to do what? [19:05] I brew beer. [19:05] winter: You can make 12% beer. [19:06] hiptobecubic, from version 1.6 to 1.7.1.1 [19:06] yeah, and i am superman and batman in one. [19:06] hey..how i can setup anonymous vsftpd server ? [19:06] 12% beers are usually delicious++ [19:06] like dog shit [19:06] winter: i can't believe they let you on IRC in the crazy house... [19:06] prodigal1, get the new tarball, un tar it and check ./configure for any new options you do/don't want. update the version at the top of the slackbuild. go. [19:06] eviljames: and apparently the Trappist monks did it in a "fake" way [19:06] NqqmNet: edit the vsftpd.conf file. [19:06] agentc0re|work: you're wrong [19:06] antiwire: I just noticed on thinkwiki that the fingerprint reader on the T500 may not be supported yet. [19:06] antiwire: that makes A LOT of sense. [19:07] lf4, i try...but.. [19:07] chopp: do you have the T500? [19:07] winter: Dude, i brew beer. My co-worker has been brewing it even longer. It's fucking possible you idiot. [19:07] hiptobecubic, ahh, makes sense, now will i have to uninstall my current version or will it overwrite? [19:07] agentc0re|work: is that the 'agentc0re special brew', if so DO NOT WANT. [19:07] lf4, one time i have blank page, error 500/550.. [19:07] Guest34745 (n=ikaiyu@matsti.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:07] agentc0re|work: stfu [19:07] prodigal1, after you buiild the package and it dumps it into /tmp/ you intsall it with 'upgradepkg' instead of 'installpkg' [19:08] agentc0re|work: they didn't let him on, he hacked the connection, he's really a genius and just plays an idiot on IRC. :) [19:08] here we go [19:08] prodigal1, or uninstallpkg and then installpkg, it's the same [19:08] I'm absolutely amazed that winter hasn't been banned [19:08] you called me an idiot ;'(( [19:08] antiwire: yeah, same here. [19:08] he called me an idiot [19:08] winter: if the shoe fits... [19:08] lf4, i just wanna to my users logging into without username/passwrd [19:08] hiptobecubic: removepkg you mean? [19:08] antiwire: no I do not. Maybe it is now, not sure. [19:08] fire|bird: ahh, i get it now. [19:08] chopp: haha [19:08] eviljames, NO ABSOLUTELY NOT [19:08] yeah? sop ban me and fuck off [19:08] winter, you aren't helping your case. ACT COOL [19:08] end of the story [19:09] hiptobecubic, thanks a ton, I really appreciate this channel haha [19:09] winter: Have you ever brewed beer? [19:09] everyone else, let's not start banning people just for acting like retards. [19:09] i dont like when some pips are calling me idiot and talking about bans [19:09] winter: And not with those kits, but from grain to finish product? [19:09] *cough*offtopic*cough*& [19:09] ikaiyu (n=ikaiyu@91.205.74.28) joined ##slackware. [19:09] NqqmNet: with anon they still have to supply user name and the password is anyemail@address.format unless their client supplys it. [19:09] agentc0re|work: it's enought to show a prove on wiki or whatever [19:10] winter: your history of chatter in here is actually pretty conducive to the word ban coming up. [19:10] or maybe you're googless [19:10] Nick change: ikaiyu -> Guest52183 [19:10] i dont care [19:10] lf4, i just wanna make ftp like that ftp://mirrors.unixsol.org/slackware/ [19:10] i did nothing wrong [19:11] but that's your decision [19:11] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:11] your choice [19:11] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [19:11] NqqmNet: set up your ftp server to allow annonymous access. [19:11] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: "-" [19:11] how..? [19:11] NqqmNet: Whats the error that you are getting? [19:11] 500 or 550 [19:11] go on and ban me [19:12] winter: http://www.wyeastlab.com/hb_yeaststrain_detail.cfm?ID=143 [19:12] BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNN MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEee [19:12] winter, really now. that's enough. [19:12] hiptobecubic, ok, libnice installed fine, but farsight2 requires a newer version of gstreamer than is in 12.2 [19:12] winter: Alcohol Tolerance: approximately 12% ABV [19:12] stop calming me down [19:12] cause i'm getting more pissed on you [19:12] Action: lf4 tasers winter [19:12] i felt here good [19:12] winter: calm down [19:12] lol [19:12] don't piss on me [19:12] NqqmNet: that depends on your ftp server [19:12] winter: That means that the Yeast can produce up to 12% of alcohol before it can't convert the sugar's anymore. [19:12] hey hitest, how's it going? [19:13] NqqmNet: In vsftpd.conf(5) , the default for anonymous_enable is YES [19:13] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@63.99.218.194) joined ##slackware. [19:13] lf4, BP{k}, 500 OOPS: child died; 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable anonymous root;500 OOPS: child died; [19:13] dive, did you make a slackbuild or just make; make install? [19:13] phoenix^: I am well, ty, you? [19:13] eviljames, yes its enable [19:13] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: "Leaving" [19:13] hitest: excellent, thanks. [19:13] winter: There is even yeast for up to 20% [19:13] alcohol, the cause of and solution to all our problems - homer simpson [19:13] NqqmNet: which slackware version? [19:13] current [19:13] NqqmNet: ok, so when you ftp localhost - it should ask for username (anonymous) and password (any@email.com) [19:13] hiptobecubic, slackbuild [19:13] well i think that i'll leave anyway [19:13] what's up now http://www.harpers.co.uk/news/news-headlines/8229--brewdog-launches-uks-strongest-beer.html [19:14] Nick change: AnonymousRednek -> nyRednek [19:14] oh what's that? 18.2%? [19:14] mm k [19:14] NqqmNet: There we go there is more to the error. Looks like you didn't set a root dir for the vsftpd. [19:14] hiptobecubic, when I've done I'll upload then to my ftp if it all compiles [19:14] eviljames, okey i try with - ftp,passwd but nothing.. [19:14] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:14] winter (n=q3@game.satkol.pl) left ##slackware. [19:14] i'm finding that klipper is crashing these days - has never happened in many many . . anybody else having that (sl64-current) [19:14] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.33.149) joined ##slackware. [19:14] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [19:14] that's what i thought. [19:14] he parts after evidence pops up [19:14] antiwire: Of course. [19:14] wow, i will have to look for a sixpack of brewdog next time i am at the liquor store :D [19:15] antiwire: was about to give him my proof. http://learnix.net [19:15] lf4, its have root dir - anon_root=/patch/to/dir/ [19:15] lol [19:15] peacenik: I haven't seen similar - do you have the auto-task or whatever its called enabled? [19:15] my site has my beers. [19:15] btw i've mad beer. I have hops growing on my back porch. grow the barley. have a spring [19:15] dive, you made one? [19:15] peacenik: Sweet.. I need to pick my hops. [19:15] NqqmNet: Does it have the right permissions? [19:15] hiptobecubic, I've made the libnice and partly made farsight2 [19:15] you mean enable actions? [19:15] lf4, yes owner is ftp and group ftp [19:15] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: "leaving" [19:15] agentc0re|work: Do you think we'd be sued if we founded the TimeCube brewery? [19:16] dive, i haven't really tried making too many builds. perhaps i should. [19:16] btw that article is hilarious [19:16] hops are kind of wierd because the stems are like barbed wire [19:16] "It is utterly irresponsible to bring out a beer which is so strong at a time when Scotland is facing unprecedented levels of alcohol-related health and social harm." [19:16] antiwire: you read the whole thing? [19:16] lmao [19:16] hahaha [19:16] eviljames: Hrm... I don't think so. [19:16] eviljames: I think that would be an awesome idea to do though! [19:17] agentc0re|work: 4 Corner Lager [19:17] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Lämnar" [19:17] agentc0re|work: Evil Educator Pale Ale [19:17] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:17] eviljames: if you mean enable actions, yes [19:17] eviljames: That's a great idea! [19:18] peacenik: Does it crash without them? (I know, that's Klipper's killer feature, but...) [19:18] lf4, and now what ? [19:18] eviljames: and great names! [19:18] it's funny because it crashed twice today and it's never happened to me before that I can remember [19:18] peacenik: Also, any useful output in ~/.xsession-errors ? [19:18] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [19:19] I've always had it on - you're right it's the best part really [19:19] NqqmNet: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7520 <-- might help you [19:19] haven't gone as far as .xsession-errors yet - I'll check now [19:20] BP{k}, no... i tried this [19:20] agentc0re|work: Singularity Stout [19:20] agentc0re|work: That's got to be the first brew. [19:20] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [19:20] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [19:21] eviljames, is there that big of a market for astrophysicist nerd beers? [19:21] hiptobecubic: http://www.timecube.com/ [19:21] it says "unexpected null receiver" [19:21] ej, you use contact, right? [19:22] *kontact >.> [19:22] if by contact you mean Kontact - then yes but not regularly enough I find [19:22] heh [19:22] i was trying to switch windows at the same time... bad idea... lol [19:22] NqqmNet: Did you make any changes to the default config file? [19:22] yes................ [19:22] eviljames, what the shit is this [19:22] eviljames: Simultaneous IPA [19:23] hiptobecubic: Hey man, you're the one who thinks it's hip to be cubic. This is the timecube. [19:23] trying to figure out how to make kontact override my handheld... not sure where the option is [19:23] lf4, i best way its to run ftp but then i can see folders [19:23] NqqmNet: come again? [19:23] i don't even know what to say. [19:23] eviljames: HALF AND HALF CO-CREATED Black and Tan :D hahaha [19:24] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:24] agentc0re|work: hahahaha awesome [19:24] Necos: Not sure dude, I haven't used it with kpilot or whatever the sync tool is now. [19:24] eviljames: Something in the back of my mind tells me that we should actually do this. [19:24] hiptobecubic, sorry to bug you again, but what sorts of changes need to be done to the conky.SlackBuild file to accomidate the changes? or where could I find a guide on how to make the necessary changes [19:24] lf4, i can run vsftpd but then i cant see folders, and i'm sure thats have folders [19:24] oh [19:25] hiptobecubic, changes in the package i mean [19:25] prodigal1, which changes are you referring to? [19:25] eviljames: I'm going to buy timecubebrewery.com when i get home :D [19:25] hiptobecubic, new features in the newer versions [19:25] agentc0re|work: Something in the front of my mind says we should. [19:25] prodigal1, normally a version change is as easy as changing the version number in the slackBuild script [19:25] agentc0re|work: Tell me how I can help! [19:25] Other than taste-testing of course :P [19:25] eviljames: Well that's two halves of two whole brains.. i think it's settled.. :P [19:26] hiptobecubic, hmmm, see I changed it and it seems like the ./conky.SlackBuild failed [19:26] checking for LUA51... configure: error: Package requirements (lua5.1 >= 5.1) were not met: [19:26] No package 'lua5.1' found [19:26] prodigal1, what version of conky [19:27] agentc0re|work: hiptobecubic has been exposed to the timecube. Life will never be the same. [19:27] 1.7.1.1 [19:27] dngr (n=dngr@n11649134204.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [19:27] LOL [19:27] hiptobecubic, 1.7.1.1 [19:27] NqqmNet: check the man vsftpd.conf page for anon_root see if that helps you out. [19:28] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) left irc: "k" [19:28] eviljames, shut up or i'll tell the Temporal Phoenix to wipe you off of the Earth [19:28] prodigal1, and you changed the version number at the top of the build to that and it didn't work? [19:28] lf4, anyway..tnx [19:28] is the source tar file in the same directory as the slackbuild? [19:29] apart from that it has the fairly obvious "klipper crashing" notice [19:29] NqqmNet: good luck :) [19:29] darn it this stupid ssl is not working for apache. [19:30] raela (i=1000@rrdhcp60-213.redrover.cornell.edu) left irc: "be back friday" [19:31] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [19:31] hiptobecubic, yep, i changed it [19:31] hmm ... NqqmNet .. it works for me. [19:31] k, bbl [19:31] prodigal1, can you pastebin the error? [19:31] hiptobecubic, does the conky.Info ned to change too? [19:32] <|Slacker|> hey...can't get hplip to work [19:32] umm, sorry how do i pastebin? [19:32] I'm a bit new :$ [19:32] I started "juk" for the first time today, and it seems to take a lot of resources (I think it's setting up a dbase of some sort) - I thought that might be it. [19:32] BP{k}, and can u see folders ? [19:32] NqqmNet: that would be covered in the "it works for me" [19:33] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.147) joined ##slackware. [19:33] I'll see later [19:33] prodigal1, not really. There are a few ways to make a pastebin. The easiest is to copy and paste the text you want to share in a pastebin website such as pocoo or lodgeit [19:33] i've been using gist.github.com lately [19:33] OR pastebin.{com,ca} or pastebin.slackadelic.com [19:34] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:34] or any number of the thousands of others [19:34] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:34] I miss rafb... [19:34] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [19:34] hiptobecubic: pastebin.slackadelic.com is based on rafb code [19:35] BP{k}, do you change anything ? [19:35] please... can someone tell me a safe DNS ? I need one [19:35] git://gist.github.com/170722.git [19:35] NqqmNet: actually I followed the exact config as outlined in that article .. ie straight cut and paste [19:35] hiptobecubic, like that?? [19:36] Action: BP{k} refused to even look at that :) [19:36] lol [19:36] AbsTradELic: opendns safe, i guess. If you are on the West Coast you can try Pacific Bell's Los Angeles DNS server 206.13.29.12 [19:36] prodigal1, maybe. [19:36] ca [19:36] bootstrap (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:36] hiptobecubic, can you view that? [19:36] yes [19:36] prodigal1: --disable-lua is valid too [19:36] thrice`, whats that? [19:37] antiwire: ok... looking it, thanks [19:37] are you sure you're supposed to be compiling software? [19:37] prodigal1, it's a flag you need to add so that it doesn't look for lua, which you don't have. [19:37] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:37] thrice`, everyone starts somewhere :) [19:37] hiptobecubic, gotcha, and thanks [19:37] at least he's trying to do it more or less the right way [19:37] yes yes :) [19:38] thrice`, yea, I'm fairly new at this, just trying to get stuff done on my own. dont wanna rely on asking questions forever :) [19:38] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:38] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [19:38] hiptobecubic, I'll try using the flag thrice` posted and see if that helps [19:38] prodigal1: I was mostly joking :) anyway, it's a configure flag. if you open the conky.SlackBuild, you will see quite a few of them under "./configure" [19:38] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:39] prodigal1, i would expect it to. If it doesn't, paste your slackbuild script. [19:39] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [19:39] hmm doesn't the gist offer a http link? [19:39] prodigal1, also it's better to share the http link instead of the git:// link. (http://gist.github.com/170722) [19:39] BP{k}, yes. [19:39] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:39] hiptobecubic: I know, I Was sorta trying to be nice here ;) [19:41] I like to look at the list of all gists.. there are some great ones. http://gist.github.com/170710 [19:42] hehe [19:42] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:42] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [19:43] hiptobecubic, is it strange that the old version installed without having LUA and this one is being difficult [19:46] NqqmNet (n=bambam@87.120.157.27) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [19:46] test34_ (n=alexb@c-69-244-245-20.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:47] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.44.206) joined ##slackware. [19:47] dngr (n=dngr@n11649134204.netvigator.com) left irc: SendQ exceeded [19:47] greetings nachox, how are you? [19:48] hiptobecubic, yah using the --disable-lua flag didn't work [19:48] prodigal1, paste the error and the slackbuild [19:49] hungry as hell :) [19:49] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [19:49] nachox: haha, I'm just eating myself. :P [19:50] mozzarella grilled cheese is what I'm having. [19:50] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [19:52] AbsTradE1ic (n=vldmr@189.52.152.16) joined ##slackware. [19:52] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:53] hiptobecubic, http://gist.github.com/170731 [19:54] prodigal1, i assume "My conky slackbuild is here:" is not in the original file? [19:54] no [19:54] hiptobecubic, you are correct, then I placed a note where the error begins [19:55] hiptobecubic, thanks for introducing to gist by the way, this thing is awesome [19:56] prodigal1, there are a lot of good pastebins out there. I am trying gist to see if the git features of it are useful or not. [19:56] hiptobecubic, yea, I was looking at the others, git seems pretty neat, the whole public repositories and such [19:57] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:57] i like the paste ownership etc. and the ability to use git to download/edit/reupload etc. [19:57] yea, it seems very robust [19:57] conky needs lua now? [19:58] in 1.7.1.1 it would seem [19:58] lol [19:58] this might just be easier for me to get lua haha [19:59] luahaha lol [19:59] lol [20:00] prodigal1, are you running slackware64-current? [20:00] hiptobecubic, i believe so, i'm running on 12.2 [20:00] prodigal1, ok. http://gist.github.com/170734 try that [20:01] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:02] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@189.87.100.117) joined ##slackware. [20:02] prodigal1: no - just pass --disable-lua ! [20:02] AbsTradE1ic (n=vldmr@189.52.152.16) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:03] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:03] thrice`, to what? the slackbuild? I added it under ./configure [20:04] thrice`, i did! it didnt work [20:04] use the slackbuild hiptobecubic pasted :> [20:04] thrice`, lol [20:04] anyone got a clue as to why openjpeg would ignore the libdir in "make DESTDIR=$PKG INSTALL_LIBDIR=$PKG/usr/lib${LIBDIRSUFFIX} install" ? [20:04] and can someone tell me why my menubar just went away.... [20:05] prodigal1, what menubar? [20:05] haha all of a sudden its gone, and it has been acting fidgity all night, moving from centered to left [20:05] taskbar [20:05] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-29-180.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:05] prodigal1, what DE/WM? [20:05] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:05] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [20:06] Is there going to be a huge wash of new slackbuilds on SBo after 13 comes out? [20:06] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: "Molon Labe" [20:06] quasar: the sbo script seems to use cmake FWIW [20:06] dive, would share your slackbuild and a half? [20:06] dive, libnice and farsight? [20:07] juan--d-1-b (n=juan--d-@190.157.41.251) joined ##slackware. [20:07] sahko: the last line in the making process is "make install DESTDIR=$PKG" [20:07] hiptobecubic, have to also update/add some gstreamer stuff [20:07] hiptobecubic, haven't tested yet but will have something in 20 mins or so [20:08] what version of gstreamer does it want? [20:08] the strange part is that it's installing to the $PKG directory, but the libs are going to /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib${LIBDIRSUFFIX} (which should be /usr/lib64) [20:09] jaher (n=nnscript@24-205-186-242.dhcp.azus.ca.charter.com) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [20:09] ViN86 (n=ViN86@cpe-72-228-59-183.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [20:09] quasar: try setting the LIBDIR path with cmake. but i havent looked at the src, so i am just saying that from the top of my head [20:10] I'm always amazed when I read about security bugfixes in changelogs. [20:10] How do they isolate this stuff [20:11] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-29-211.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:11] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [20:12] khaledmardam (i=mirc@189-93-174-69.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:12] sahko: still no luck [20:12] khaledmardam (i=mirc@189-93-174-69.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [20:13] quasar: http://gentoo-portage.com/AJAX/Ebuild/71621/View maybe this helps [20:13] wow new pidgin in -current [20:14] yeah... pidgin really should be upgraded [20:14] the one in -current has that outrageous security flaw. it's patched 2.5.9 [20:14] which is pretty much what I'm doing, except s/emake/make/ [20:14] -current has 2.5.9 :) [20:15] thrice`, i just checked and it tried to install 2.5.8...... [20:15] Action: hiptobecubic checks again [20:15] Action: quasar quadruple checks to make sure there isn't a typo in the variables [20:15] quasar: i think emake means make. like epatch means patch [20:15] Action: quasar shrugs [20:15] and egentoo means gentoo [20:15] never used or plan to use gentoo lol [20:15] stybla (n=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:15] me neither [20:16] hiptobecubic, sorry for the delay, but yea, my KDE Taskbar is gone suddenly, it was there along the bottom with all my running apps, shortcuts etc, and now suddenly without notice it dissapeared [20:16] disappeared sorry [20:16] thrice`, in 64-current it looks like it's still 2.5.8 [20:16] hiptobecubic: no it got upgraded [20:16] i just rsynced [20:17] to get 2.5.9 [20:17] well ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu is behind the times then [20:17] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware64-current/slackware64/xap/pidgin-2.5.9-x86_64-1.txz [20:17] yeah i just switched to that mirror, actuallt [20:18] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [20:18] arenics (n=arenics@unaffiliated/arenics) joined ##slackware. [20:19] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Connection timed out [20:19] hiptobecubic, thanks by the way, that worked perfectly, I'm gonna look at what you changed after I get my taskbar back haha [20:20] Hi, does slackware has any terminal multiplexer like tmux ? [20:20] yeah, GNU screen [20:20] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:20] sahko: you know tmux ? [20:20] do you know ? [20:20] yeah [20:20] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:21] sahko: how can I use screen as tmux ? [20:21] open a terminal. exec 'screen' [20:21] prodigal1, line 70 [20:21] sahko: and to go back to the first screen what I do ? [20:21] arenics: slackware also has splitvt [20:22] which is awesome too but quite limited [20:22] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Success [20:22] arenics: man screen [20:22] theres also hundreds of tutorials on the web [20:22] sahko: ok, ty very much :) [20:22] hiptobecubic, ahhh, well thank you very very much, it's greatly appreciated [20:22] hiptobecubic, kicker got my taskbar back btw [20:23] arenics: its quite disturbing that you know tmux and not screen btw [20:23] very wird [20:23] s/wird/weird [20:23] prodigal1, not a problem. Not familiar at all with kde here. [20:23] sahko: I was using OpenBSD [20:23] ah :) [20:23] :) [20:23] prodigal1: In KDE 3.x series, the kicker is the taskbar. [20:23] that was the only reasonable explanation [20:23] hiptobecubic, what do you use? [20:23] xfce [20:23] phoenix^, learning something new every day [20:24] :) [20:24] prodigal1, there are many to try out. run xwmconfig, pick one, and then restart x [20:24] phoenix^, actually, about a million things everyday [20:24] prodigal1: haha, yeah, seems like it anyway. :P [20:24] Always something to learn [20:24] Nick change: juan--d-1-b -> juan--d-_-b [20:25] arenics: FWIW you can also build tmux from here: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/tmux/ [20:25] dngr (n=dngr@n11649134204.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [20:25] its outdated today but will work [20:25] hiptobecubic, i'm getting fairly familiar with KDE and have customized it to meet my specs, might stick with it on this machine [20:26] sahko: yeah, I've found it [20:26] but I was looking for slackware std packages [20:26] hiptobecubic, going to be installing Ubuntu on another box once I can get a new HD [20:26] if there is one [20:27] ok:) [20:27] prodigal1, you mean kubuntu? [20:28] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:28] hiptobecubic, not sure, might give Gnome a try [20:29] i liked gnome when i used ubuntu. although i didn't really give kde a proper try. [20:29] artv61 (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [20:29] hiptobecubic, if I can get a big enough HD i might just multiboot with a few different distros and try out a bit of everything [20:29] n00kie (n=user@200-203-9-237.cslce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:29] hiptobecubic, but for my laptop i'm definitely sticking with Slackware [20:30] hiptobecubic, I've been told already by a few people that this is a poor choice for a first time linux user, but i'm stubborn ^^ [20:30] i put slackware on everything, laptops desktops, lawnmowers, ice cream [20:30] Pig_Pen, lol [20:31] Pig_Pen: ice cream? Would that be ICEDSlack? :P [20:31] yeah, tasty [20:31] nom nom nom @ ICEDSlack [20:31] prodigal1, it's a poor choice for the impatient first time user. [20:32] hiptobecubic, I'm actually really enjoying it, it gives me a chance to familiarize myself with both compiling/installing from source as well as using a bash wrapper [20:32] dive, diiiiiiivveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee does it work yet? [20:33] it seems to run, but there's a problem: I have no webcam :P [20:33] prodigal1: what PC experience do you have installing & configuring OSs? [20:33] anyway wait a sec pleeease [20:33] dive, lol [20:33] Action: hiptobecubic taps fingers on table... [20:33] patience hiptobecubic, patience. :P [20:33] DAMNIT LET'S GO [20:34] WHERE? [20:34] TO THE FOUR CORNERS OF TIME [20:34] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "leaving" [20:34] Nick change: phoenix^ -> fire|bird [20:34] hiptobecubic: wow, sounds like fun....maybe. :) [20:34] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [20:35] Pig_Pen, I have lots regarding OSes [20:36] Pig_Pen, it's kind of embarassing but I'm a 4th year Honours Comp Sci major and I'm only now getting into Linux [20:41] what about the BSDs, Free/Net/Open [20:41] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [20:41] if you can do any of those slackware will be a breeze [20:42] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:42] prodigal1, java and .net this whole time or what? [20:43] Pig_Pen: maybe you better starts with linux that has more users and so it's more documented [20:44] prodigal1: [20:44] i agree, Linux is the better choice, i like it [20:44] hiptobecubic, basically [20:44] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:45] eviljames, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cube_time i didn't realize it was so serious. [20:45] arenics, did you mean linux in general or 'a linux' as in a distro? [20:46] in general [20:48] arenics (n=arenics@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: "leaving" [20:49] hiptobecubic, turns out I accidentally left out a few features I wanted haha, but thanks to your example I think I know just how to put them in [20:52] theres only a few Linuxes i really like, Slackware and Crux are my two favorites, the rest just seem to have lost that unix philosophy [20:53] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.86) joined ##slackware. [20:54] This is the Unix philosophy: Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface. [20:56] Pig_Pen, have you used arch? [20:57] artv61 (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [20:57] not in a long long time, i need to give it another spin now that got a PC with sata drives, the last PC i tried it on had only pata drives and it was a little old for it [20:59] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.86) left irc: "Leaving" [20:59] it's supposed to be hands-on-y [21:00] I haven't tried it yet [21:00] I think i'm scared I'll like it more, and I'm emotionally attached to slackware :D [21:02] lol @ hiptobecubic [21:02] :D [21:03] you'll go back to windows eventually and you know it :P [21:03] Mmm..windows [21:03] i am attached to slackware because of its fine grained ability to do a custom install, no diced up packages with -dev this and -dev that, its all in the one package. i think the only package that has a development package is xorg and that is something i always install [21:05] dngr (n=dngr@n11649134204.netvigator.com) left irc: SendQ exceeded [21:05] ever do a fresh install of debian and decide you want to build something? then you have to spend more time hunting for all those header files they separated from the libraries and stuff like that [21:05] HBX (n=hbx@adsl-11-112-182.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:07] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:07] t4k3r0n_ (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.33.64) joined ##slackware. [21:07] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:08] hey guys, I got another great questions [21:08] err question [21:08] i installed lua, just for the heck of it, it can provide some nice scripts for conky [21:09] took out the whole disable lua bit in the ./configure file [21:09] Pig_Pen, it's not that hard in debian, i have to deal with that every day at work and with the package manager it's easy [21:09] but when I go to use the SlackBuild, it is telling me i am missing a /usr/lib/liblua.so file that I can clearly see in /usr/lib/ [21:10] btw, everyone UPDATE your slackwares [21:10] ...gee really? [21:10] prodigal1, it says it can't find a file but the file is there? and named properly? [21:10] hiptobecubic, you got it [21:10] yeah, its do-able in debian, just annoying to me, espically after slackware ease of use when it comes to building my own packages [21:11] one sec, I'll show ya the error and the ls /usr/lib/ [21:11] n00kie (n=user@200-203-9-237.cslce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:12] prodigal1: you might be better off leaving the conky source code intact and customizing the slackbuild [21:12] yeah, pastebin the error [21:12] Pig_Pen, i don't think he's changed the conky source yet [21:12] Pig_Pen, I did, I was only touching the SlackBuild [21:12] lol @ hiptobecubic "yet" [21:13] :D [21:13] he said he edited the configure file [21:14] he meant he stopped passing '--disable-lua' to ./configure [21:14] that was the slackbuild that you removed the lua part? [21:14] Pig_Pen, (he's new ;) ) [21:14] http://gist.github.com/170750 [21:14] haha yea, I'm new [21:15] he is doing better than i was when i was a slackware noob, i was a lost puppy and borked a few installs before i started being cautious [21:15] thaqt's interesting. no idae [21:15] well at least i'm not completely lost [21:15] back to --disabling lua [21:17] i never installed lua so i am not sure how easy that will be http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/development/lua/ [21:17] Lua is fun :) [21:18] hiptobecubic, pidgin is still compiling but I have uploaded the other packages here: http://www.unrealize.co.uk/slackbuilds you will need in order: libnice, gstreamer, gstreamer-plugin-base, gst-python, farsight2 [21:18] thats what i would do, just install lua to satisfy the dependency [21:19] s/packages/slackbuilds [21:20] roorah (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:22] dive: Does libnice support DESTDIR properly? [21:22] jaher (n=nnscript@24-205-186-242.dhcp.azus.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:22] I'm looking at the Makefile right now but I don't know make very well [21:22] antiwire, seemed to [21:22] nice [21:22] haha [21:22] >.< [21:23] lol [21:23] Pig_Pen, Thats what I did do, but then I began getting that error, is there a refresh that perhaps I need to run after installing a dependancy? [21:24] Pig_Pen, The error that I am missing files that are there [21:24] juan--d-1-b (n=juan--d-@186.81.134.50) joined ##slackware. [21:25] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.162.168) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:25] prodigal1: didnt you say before you just started using linux? [21:25] sahko, that is correct [21:25] juan--d-1-b (n=juan--d-@186.81.134.50) left irc: Client Quit [21:26] what do you need conky then? just stick to what slackware offers. try gkrellm. make yourself familiar with slackware. then start tweaking, messing around. my 2 cents [21:26] I suppose I dont NEED conky [21:27] gkrellm does the exact same thing, but differently [21:27] but in reviving this Laptop I had to unplug a very noisy fan, and while I'm waiting for the new one to arrive, I would like to be able to monitor the heat levels of my computer [21:27] oh.... well I was unaware of that... [21:28] yeah, like i suggested before, explore Slackware first [21:28] theres probably many useful stuff you dont know of [21:28] I have the install done, I was just messing around prematurely i guess [21:29] not sure prodigal1 i have not installed lua in order to build conky, i just use gkrellm, its not as pretty as conky but it is customizable and will show temps for CPU/GPU [21:29] Pig_Pen, I see I see [21:30] I suppose I was drawn to conky because of how pretty it is... guilty [21:31] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:32] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:34] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [21:34] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.33.149) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [21:35] i guess your going to have to stick with ugly ol gkrellm :p [21:36] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [21:37] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [21:37] Pig_Pen, I got it working, just trying to figure out the image scripts [21:37] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-157-105.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:37] y0,slackers...How's everyone? [21:38] Pig_Pen, also, what is a good Slackware update mirror to place in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors? [21:38] MLanden, good good, how are you!? [21:38] prodigal1, they are all pretty much fine, just make sure the mirror matches your version [21:38] relaxin' for the evenin' thanks prodigal1 [21:39] except for ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu which is behind [21:39] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:40] hiptobecubic, ahhh gotcha! I see what needed to be done [21:43] hiptobecubic, ok pidgin-2.6.1 up: http://www.unrealize.co.uk/slackbuilds [21:43] woo [21:44] prodigal1: i use osuosl = oregonstate, tds is another fast mirror [21:44] prodigal1 any mirror with 1g pipe or better. [21:44] Quiznos, Pig_Pen thanks guys [21:44] heanet.ie [21:44] osuosl is pretty reliable [21:45] tije (n=tije@189.175.113.242) left irc: "leaving" [21:45] i like slackware.cs.utah.edu... but that's disappeared [21:45] sourpuss71 (n=3d848add@gateway/web/cgi-irc/sourpuss.net/x-ryrmyyltsgnwjbsd) joined ##slackware. [21:46] 13 °C, Haze [21:46] The Moon is New [21:46] Next SubGenius Holiday: September 1 Start of the Holy Month of "Ramalamadingdong" [21:46] ok sorted [21:46] OH PRAAAAAISE RAMALAMADINGDONG [21:46] sourpuss71 (n=3d848add@gateway/web/cgi-irc/sourpuss.net/x-ryrmyyltsgnwjbsd) left ##slackware. [21:46] dive, did you write some php or something for this? [21:46] it's nice [21:46] bash [21:47] you mean the soam above or slackbuild? [21:47] spam* [21:47] roorah (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [21:48] hiptobecubic, ? [21:49] no i mean your site [21:49] of slackbuilds [21:49] ah right, yes php [21:49] i assume it is just reading directories and building pages? [21:49] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.117) joined ##slackware. [21:49] hiptobecubic, reads a .config file and does stuff [21:50] parses *.info and prints source download [21:50] sure [21:50] or _should_ - i notice it doesn't for two of those builds and I don't know why yet [21:50] when making a package, if I move the files in usr/lib/ to usr/lib64/ could that cause issues? (trying to get a single lib directory type thing going.. specifically I'm working on ffmpeg right now) [21:51] this one doesn't say "slackbuilds" at the top. http://www.unrealize.co.uk/slackbuilds/12.2/farsight2/ [21:51] well spotted [21:52] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [21:52] fixed [21:53] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:53] hiptobecubic, to be honest apache does support printing a readme file in footer but for some unknown reason my hosts ave turned that feature off, so I had to improvise [21:53] roorah (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:54] ltbplinux (n=ltbplinu@187.36.70.146) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:55] PenPerk (n=carlj@wsip-72-215-232-39.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:55] ah [21:56] roorah (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [21:56] dive: barry mann -who put the bomp http://youtube.com/watch?v=85DUPbkDXT0 [21:56] be back in a bit guys [21:57] hba (n=hba@189.188.152.74) joined ##slackware. [21:57] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-236.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:57] This video has been removed due to terms of use violation. [21:58] same here [21:58] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: "Leaving" [21:58] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:59] oops, stale url; google lyrics who put the bomp [21:59] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:00] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSMCRD35ch4 [22:00] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:01] roorah (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:01] roorah (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [22:01] oh man wtf [22:01] yeah [22:02] must be caffeine refill time [22:02] dive: barry mann coined the phrase "Ramalamadingdong" [22:02] aha [22:03] thats quite an old somg [22:03] ong [22:03] yea, 1950's iirc, in the be-bop era [22:03] I think also discordians are having a go at ramadam (spelling?) [22:04] another version... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KStsPPgeka4 [22:04] dive: yea, nice pun [22:04] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:05] ltbplinux (n=ltbplinu@187.36.70.146) joined ##slackware. [22:06] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [22:08] pireau (i=chaos@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:11] http://forums.utassault.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=24571&stc=1&d=1250619272 [22:12] roorah (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:13] ltbplinux (n=ltbplinu@187.36.70.146) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:13] good one,dive [22:15] PenPerk (n=carlj@wsip-72-215-232-39.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:15] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [22:16] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:17] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:17] what do you guys use for playing CDs apart from the kde app? [22:18] stybla (n=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [22:18] xmms [22:18] xmms ftw!!! [22:18] hey twolf [22:18] hey now [22:19] dive: cmus. [22:20] k [22:20] my windows computer (it's hooked up to my stereo system) [22:21] http://www.theonion.com/content/opinion/people_of_earth_i_lack_basic [22:21] The onion makes me feel good. [22:22] dive, what is that libnice.tar.gz you're hosting? [22:23] hiptobecubic, those tar.gz contain all the other files (slackbuilds and such) [22:23] roorah (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [22:23] dive, ahh ok thanks [22:23] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:24] t4k3r0n_ (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.33.64) left irc: Client Quit [22:24] cmus build error. Looks like ffmpeg. [22:25] pireau (i=chaos@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) joined ##slackware. [22:25] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:25] dive: try this http://hba.ath.cx/projects/slackbuilds/testing/cmus-2.2.0/ [22:26] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:27] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:29] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.117) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [22:29] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:30] when is bash 4 due out? [22:30] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:30] L = ([your age]/2) + 7 [22:30] where L = lower age limit for dating [22:30] :P [22:31] lol [22:31] ooh, new catalyst drivers for ati? excellent [22:32] pireau (i=chaos@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:33] does anyone here have conky running windowlessly on the desktop? for some reason it doesnt show through my transparent konsole window [22:34] pireau (i=chaos@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) joined ##slackware. [22:34] I guess no windows show through however [22:34] so its not real transparency and just puts the bgthere to fool you [22:35] hba, thanks [22:35] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-70-39.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:35] prodigal1: Do you have double_buffer set to yes? [22:36] MLanden, in Konsole config? [22:36] prodigal1: no, your conkyrc config file. [22:37] thanks,fire|bird [22:37] yw [22:37] MLanden: How's it going? [22:37] Great thanks fire|bird.... you? [22:37] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [22:37] MLanden: excellent, thank you. :) [22:38] fire|bird: np [22:38] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:38] Ahhh, let me take a look see [22:39] dive, gstreamer-0.10.20 ? gst-plugins-base needs >= 0.10.23.1 [22:39] MLa [22:40] eh? that should be 0.10.24 [22:40] one sec [22:40] MLanden, Umm, I dont appear to have a double_buffer flag in there [22:41] hiptobecubic, ah the info file is wrong. Sorry I forgot to bump the version. >.< [22:41] :) [22:42] prodigal1: try adding double_buffer yes to it and restart conky [22:42] hiptobecubic: are you on -current? [22:42] fire|bird, i shall [22:42] yeah [22:42] gst-plugins-base-0.10.23-i486-1 [22:42] it's part of -current already [22:42] just build nice and farsight [22:43] and the python binding [22:43] 0.10.23.1 > 0.10.23 [22:43] ... [22:43] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:44] prodigal1: couple good sites on tweakin' conky are on archlinux and ubuntu (it's good for somethin'....:D ) [22:44] current has gstreamer-0.10.23-i486-1 and gst-plugins-base-0.10.23-i486-1 [22:44] ah well, fixed and uploaded. These builds are only tested on 12.2 by the way. [22:44] just build libnice, the python bindings and then farsight2 [22:44] thats why they are in slackbuilds/12.2 [22:44] on current you just need to do those 3 [22:44] MLanden, haha thx [22:44] then i built pidgin [22:44] prodigal1: np [22:45] dive, it looks like your gstreamer SlackBuild is looking for .gz but the info wants bz2 [22:45] MLanden, what should double buffer do anyways? [22:45] >.< [22:45] hiptobecubic: You don't need to build those for -current. [22:46] lol ok one sec. That's cause you rushed me. [22:46] yeah, i'm just looking at them now [22:46] dive, haha. don't blame me! [22:46] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:46] antiwire, what version of gst-python did you install? [22:46] the one dive had [22:46] no [22:46] wait [22:46] I used the SBo package [22:47] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.117) joined ##slackware. [22:47] prodigal1: buffers the conky screen (when it draws to the window) [22:47] I only needed dive's libnice and farsight2, everything else either came form current or SBo [22:47] fixed [22:47] form/from [22:47] antiwire, ah ok [22:48] btw, is the new pidgin functionality for XMPP and Googletalk or just XMPP? [22:48] i thought google talk was XMPP [22:48] dngr (n=dngr@116.49.134.204) joined ##slackware. [22:48] it is [22:48] In pidgin there are protocol options for new accounts for each [22:48] I don't even have a way to test this stuff [22:49] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [22:49] I see, the googleTalk option just presets gmail [22:51] so i was able to steer my friend closer to using Slackware Linux once again, and I may have a new convert as well. total: five people so far. [22:51] I still ignorantly use XMPP and set the good stuff myself =p [22:51] I know the Gtalk option is there, I know what I does, but I set them anyway. [22:51] Do any of you have the latest pidgin yet with voice/video support? [22:52] Keep 'em comin',TwinReverb...\m/ -_- \m/ [22:52] antiwire, what version would that be? [22:52] how the hell is this supposed to work omgwtfgtfo [22:52] 2.6.1 [22:52] /var/log/packages/pidgin-2.5.8-i486-1 [22:52] i guess not [22:52] antiwire: last I heard the dev team were asshats and said it wasn't necessary. [22:52] current doesn't even have 2.6.1 yet [22:53] hence the carrier fork. [22:53] I just finished all the deps in partly in debt to dive [22:53] this is bizarre [22:53] that's because it's frozen in release candidate status right now (duh) [22:53] TwinReverb: actually no [22:53] /topic [22:53] TwinReverb: there was just an update to pidgin but not to 2.6.1 [22:53] ... [22:53] thanks yeah [22:53] I also rsync the changelog daily [22:54] i know what you're saying but we're not going to be receiving much unless there's a reason for it (i.e. something broken) due to (like i said) release candidate status [22:54] hiptobecubic: Do you know how to enable voice yet? [22:54] error: Package requirements ( pygobject-2.0 >= 2.12.0 gst-python-0.10 >= 0.10.10 ) were not met: but i just installed gst-python from sbo [22:54] Action: ron1n is switching fro Carrier to Pidgin again. [22:54] oh yeah?! well i rsync HOURLY!!!!! 8-P [22:54] hiptobecubic: I see nothing about it [22:54] antiwire, I couldn't see anything either [22:55] i even hacked cron so that it has a /etc/cron.minutely so i can rsync every minute!!!!! lol [22:55] antiwire, when you run ./configure in pidgin you should see something that says "with voice and video: yes" [22:55] or something that effect [22:55] hiptobecubic: well yeah [22:55] that's it [22:55] Have you built it yet? [22:55] there is nothing about voice/video in the program [22:55] roorah (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: No route to host [22:56] no because i'm failing to build farsight [22:56] I bet they just did the framework and nothing exists to use it yet [22:56] you can ask 'em at #pidgin iirc [22:56] haha, my desktop just went gray, I lost the icons and everything, and right clicking does nothing [22:56] whats goin on [22:57] prodigal1: are you using any sort of composited desktop? [22:57] if i recall right gaim-vv was only for yahoo, so I wonder if they made it for other protos now? [22:57] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-29-180.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:57] zomg oh noes! TwinReverb put a */1 * * * * /usr/bin/run-parts /etc/cron.minutely 1> /dev/null in cron! I'm telling .... soemone... I'll figure out who tomorrow [22:58] Action: TwinReverb stabs quasar [22:58] Action: quasar bleeds. [22:58] O.0 [22:58] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-219.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:58] ron1n, I have conky running without a window with double buffers now on [22:58] ron1n, other than that I have nothign out of the ordinary [22:59] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [22:59] prodigal1: hmm I'm stumped then. I usually experience that behavior when compiz goes wacky. [22:59] __lupo__ (n=lupo@189.7.243.186) left ##slackware. [22:59] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left ##slackware. [23:00] ron1n, damn, so many things have gone awry tonite [23:00] this is weaksauce [23:01] prodigal1: try this http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=73543 it might help...:D [23:01] antiwire, that's because you didn't compile it like mandriva / ubuntu with --everything-including-the-kitchen-sink [23:03] Action: hiptobecubic forget to add /usr/lib64 to the gst-python build..... [23:03] oh [23:03] MLanden, My conky is fine, it's just my entire desktop just kinda crashed on me [23:03] killall desktop [23:03] hiptobecubic: hurry up [23:03] someone with googltalk wtf [23:03] get his started [23:03] this* [23:03] hi all [23:04] i got googletalk, but i dont have a webcam [23:04] antiwire: lol, anxious to test it out? :P [23:04] antiwire, lol PATIENCE [23:04] hi juice [23:04] i missed the new pidgin yesterday :P [23:04] why didn't you tell me [23:04] hiptobecubic: hey now, I was telling *you* that earlier. :P [23:04] prodigal1: sorry, stumped as well [23:05] hiptobecubic, you don't need add /usr/lib64, just change your ARCH and the sb should pick it up [23:06] the gst-python on sbo doesn't have libdirsuffix [23:06] although I should check that pidgin sb [23:06] ah thought you meant mine [23:07] antiwire, ok, voice video is a yes [23:07] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) joined ##slackware. [23:08] SHITBALLS [23:08] dive, i think i overwrote my pidgin slackbuild with yours... does it not have libdirsuffix in it? [23:09] oh hell [23:09] hiptobecubic, no I just put it in. Download again. [23:09] sorry I just reused an old script. [23:09] yeah i just need to rebuild now [23:10] I better check the others... [23:10] gst-* should be ok [23:11] dngr (n=dngr@116.49.134.204) left irc: SendQ exceeded [23:11] damn, i killed my kdesktop and it came back up without all the changes i made [23:13] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [23:14] prodigal1 (n=superdud@dynamic-216-211-51-59.tbaytel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:14] hiptobecubic, hang on a sec. Did you just down the slackbuild or the whole tar.gz? [23:14] who knows. i had an old copy of my slackbuild there so i just used that [23:15] alright ladies... installing [23:17] what is this nonsense [23:17] i see no exciting video here [23:17] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-68.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [23:18] we need to try it with two people who have it enabled [23:18] i'm only good for voice [23:18] well i /should/ [23:18] i have webcam but my built-in microphone doesn't work in linux [23:18] are you connected via google? [23:18] yeah [23:19] I don't know what the settigns failed Code 503 [23:19] i can't even send you a message [23:19] LOL [23:19] hm [23:19] what are the connection settings supposed to be? [23:19] you already gots IRC, what more do you needs? [23:20] what do you mean? the settings for gtalk? [23:20] yeah [23:20] there are a bunch of settings in advanced that I don't know how ot set [23:20] if you add a 'gmail' account that should be it no? [23:20] I can't even talk to my self using two gmail accounts [23:20] i have Connect Port 5222 [23:21] I bet that "code 503" is an HTTP error message [23:21] server blank, file transfer proxy: proxy.jabber.org [23:21] BOSH URL: blank [23:21] prodigal1 (n=superdud@dynamic-216-211-51-59.tbaytel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:21] old girl just needed a reboot [23:21] hiptobecubic, you need file transfer proxy cause googletalk uses some other proto than jabber [23:21] hm. "10.5.4 503 Service Unavailable [23:22] The server is currently unable to handle the request due to a temporary overloading or maintenance of the server. The implication is that this is a temporary condition which will be alleviated after some delay." [23:22] wonder if gtalk's based on HTTP [23:22] ohhh that's what happened to me earlier.... [23:22] bosh? [23:22] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [23:22] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:23] i couldn't send messages earlier [23:23] makes sense.. server's down [23:23] gtalk uses jabber/xmmp [23:23] except for file transfers [23:23] this is lamer than lame [23:23] super lame [23:24] apparently in XMPP, 503 means the same as it does in HTTP [23:24] let's just get two cups and a string [23:24] 2 girls one *what*? [23:24] i'm just going to shout from here [23:24] lol,Urchlay [23:25] meh [23:25] should i install SW over W7? [23:25] all this compiling for vv in pidgin [23:25] lol [23:26] i need sleep tonight [23:26] (duh) [23:26] more than 4 hours [23:26] yu tma [23:26] antiwire, gimme your gtalk id and I will spam^H^H^H^H test [23:26] (You use too many abbreviations) [23:26] 2girls1cupcake [23:26] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.117) left irc: Success [23:27] http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=23117 [23:27] Action: Urchlay doesn't look [23:27] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:27] i set the domain to gmail.com and then the server talk.google.com [23:27] I don't know wtf is going on here [23:28] gmail is boned right now [23:28] gtalk* i mean [23:28] i can't talk to anyone [23:28] hey dive and I got messages to work [23:29] get a couple of large cannons [23:29] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [23:29] record voice messages on durable media [23:29] fire them at each other [23:29] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:29] bootstrap (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [23:30] we can talk messages but not voice [23:30] (2009-08-19 20:29:28) Error creating conference. [23:30] account for trajectory...:D [23:31] well what the hell [23:32] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:32] For some reason this feels ghettoy still [23:32] like it's hardly baked at all [23:33] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [23:34] hiptobecubic, msg me your gtalk id [23:35] hey just said to debug mode it [23:35] one sec [23:35] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [23:36] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [23:36] can you two message at least yet? [23:36] i haven't gotten anything [23:37] nope [23:37] cant see him online [23:37] yes i can! [23:37] thar we go [23:37] dive: can you see me still? [23:37] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) left irc: "!" [23:38] hm. So tonight would be a bad time for me to suddenly decide to reinstall bitlbee and try to use my gtalk account? [23:39] why can I talk to dive and dive can talk to hiptobecubic but I can't hit hiptobecubic? [23:39] XMPP is ghey [23:40] i can't talk to another friend of mine either [23:40] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [23:40] antiwire, dunno but he doesn;t see media/audio/video stuff and mine is greyed out for him [23:40] i have it for you and i can select it but it errors [23:43] you'd think new protocols would get better than IRC [23:43] this crap just gets worse [23:43] Guest79591 (n=name@c-69-140-59-98.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:43] Guest79591 (n=name@c-69-140-59-98.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:44] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:44] I can't even add a second gmail talk account and send messages between them [23:44] antiwire, did #pidgin say much? [23:45] yeah they told me ot enable debug and all i get from that is: (20:44:59) jingle-rtp: Couldn't create media session [23:45] gg [23:45] luvly [23:45] Kiyosaki (n=noob@58.173.179.157) joined ##slackware. [23:46] slKIvs (n=ivan@32.91.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [23:47] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-68.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:47] lol [23:47] i'm getting errors as well [23:47] man, i am having such a crisis trying to decide whether to run a windows virtualbox on linux machine, or linux virtualbox on windows machine for my HTPC [23:47] whichever is going to be your media player should be native. [23:48] Could anyone help me connect to my wireless internet connection in slackware? I have been able to compile the driver for my wireless device and I'm able to scan and find the correct wireless networks, but I haven't been able to work out how to actually make the connection to the network [23:48] well, i'd say the majority of our video viewing is done in netflix on demand [23:48] fiyawerx: Windows has about drove me insane lately, from windows VM on Linux. :P [23:48] but i want linux for amarok, and to just run remote stuff while i'm at work and other places [23:48] Kiyosaki, wicd is a nice frontend for wifi settings [23:48] will end up runing linux on our other machines in the house, its just funny that windows is sounding like the best host for my htpc [23:49] thanks tank-man I'll check it out, is it KDE? [23:49] not sure [23:49] well [23:49] smoker (n=nika@212.45.14.5) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:49] np I'm looking it up now, thanks for the tip [23:49] i GUESS this is progress [23:50] antiwire, hiptobecubic, I think I'm still on the pidgin mailing list so if I find anything I'll let you know. It's a busy list and I'm sure there will heated discussions about this. [23:50] well good [23:50] dive they told me base plugins is not enough! [23:50] Have we tried against a gtalk client yet? [23:50] antiwire, really? Did they suggest which shoudl be installed? [23:51] antiwire, so their configure script doesn't work then. [23:51] checking now [23:51] ok guys [23:51] go ot SBo and get gst -good [23:51] hiptobecubic, what configure script? [23:51] gogoogogog [23:51] going going [23:51] get good and bad [23:51] dive, pidgins [23:51] gst what? [23:51] hi guys, anybudy uses visualroute in slack [23:52] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-236.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:53] ok gst-good what a great name [23:53] what about gst-ffmpeg? [23:53] Guest79591 (n=name@c-69-140-59-98.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:53] were can i download motd? [23:53] sounds useful but nvm [23:53] heh, can't find it [23:53] huh? [23:53] motd... like fortune? [23:54] yea [23:54] y/ [23:54] Guest79591, you don't mean my motd script by any chance? [23:54] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.79.245) joined ##slackware. [23:54] I'm going to get all 3 good bad ugly [23:54] shotgun method baby [23:54] i'm compiling 'goog' [23:55] 'good'* [23:55] i'm compiling the timecube [23:55] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:55] we damn well better make this work after all this bullshit [23:55] eviljames: LMAO! [23:55] bootstrap (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:56] agentc0re: every time I get to 50% built it reverts to 25 [23:56] day two keeps reverting to day one :( [23:56] agentc0re: should I file a bug? [23:56] jaher (n=nnscript@24-205-186-242.dhcp.azus.ca.charter.com) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [23:56] i assume we need to rebuild pidgin? [23:56] blah.. export DISPLAY=:0 && kdialog --title "blah" --msgbox "Some message" doesn't work in 4.3 :( [23:56] I don't think so [23:56] antiwire, so is just installing the plugins enough or do we need recompile pidgin again? [23:56] Asking now [23:56] oh im a slow typer [23:57] quasar: how about $ DISPLAY=:0 kdialog --title "foo" --msgbox "bar" [23:57] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:57] restart should be good enough [23:57] restart pidgin I mean [23:58] ok [23:58] nope [23:58] just installed good, bad and ugly still building [23:58] eviljames: Depends, do you all 4x24 hour timezones already installed? [23:59] agentc0re: of course, i should've known. I also don't have utf.en_uscrazy installed :/ [00:00] --- Thu Aug 20 2009