[00:00] Urchlay, USB does not support autorun (the exception are the thumb drives that can show as a CD drive), but yes, shift does disable it, at least up to XP [00:00] IIRC i may have heard about it not working on something very new (Vista or win7, dunno, google it) [00:00] is it possible to extract the contents of a live cd iso to a folder or partition, and point grub to it and boot that live cd? [00:02] zxh: if you rm -fr directory,does it give you the same error? [00:03] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-55-52-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:03] superGear (n=superGea@97-118-37-182.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: [00:04] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:04] don't give error messege, but the file is still in [00:04] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:05] what about rmdir directory /S,zxh? [00:06] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:07] what is /s for, it said no suck file [00:08] whoops...rmdir -p directory* [00:08] gm152_ (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:08] Mlanden, it said, so such file or dir [00:12] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [00:12] formatting the drive may be the only choice,zxh [00:14] Old_Fogie: I got my mp3 player working now, with help in #rockbox. :) [00:14] you're kidding, what was it? [00:14] thank u [00:15] moo [00:15] :> [00:15] Old_Fogie: A simple solution. There's a format option in there that I ran which fixed things right up. :) [00:15] oh? on the device itself? [00:15] Old_Fogie: Yeah, I didn't know about it. :P [00:16] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-234.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [00:16] congrats:) [00:16] Thanks. I'm glad it's working now. It's the only player I have that supports rockbox, which is really nice. [00:17] Old_Fogie: btw, backspace works in xfce terminal itself, so it must be something with screen or irssi. more likely screen I would assume. [00:17] np,zxh [00:18] firebird619, there's an option to make that run as login shell as well [00:19] # make the shell in every window a login shell [00:19] shell -$SHELL [00:19] from my file there [00:19] Old_Fogie: Ok, I'll look into it. Thank you. Right now I'm going to load the two latest music cd's I got recently to my player now that it works. :) [00:21] self formatting mp3 players are good for screwups that happen..:D [00:21] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [00:21] MLanden: Yes, I found that out today. I thought the mp3 player was no good anymore. :) [00:21] MLanden: I didn't know that option was there for this player. [00:21] What kind of mp3 player,firebird619? [00:22] MLanden: SanDisk Sansa c240 [00:22] I also have a Sansa Clip [00:22] can you put rockbox on the c240,firebird619? [00:22] The clip supports ogg and flac in sansa's firmware, and the c240 supports it with rockbox. [00:22] sweet [00:23] MLanden: Yeah, I have rockbox on the c240, it's really nice. [00:23] MLanden: The c240 I got was from buy.com for $10.99. It was reconditioned, but hey, it works. :) [00:23] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-126.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:23] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-161-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left ##slackware. [00:24] wished they could have finished the iriver ifp port [00:24] MLanden: Is that what you have, an iriver? [00:24] yup [00:24] sidmario_ (n=sidmario@201-43-57-9.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:24] sidmario (n=sidmario@201-43-57-9.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Success [00:24] Nick change: sidmario_ -> sidmario [00:24] MLanden: I like rockbox too because it added video playback to my player, which it doesn't have otherwise. [00:25] MLanden: of course it's on a small screen, but it looks and works good enough for what I use it for. [00:25] but at 256meg that just would be too tight for rockbox [00:25] that's all that matters,firebird619..:D [00:25] MLanden: yeah, it would. Does that support a memory card to add more space? [00:26] One album done ripping to ogg. :D [00:26] no...that was the holdback why the project couldn't finish up [00:26] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "leaving" [00:27] MLanden: Ah, ok. that's too bad. The c240 I have takes a microSD card, the clip does not. [00:27] MLanden: I like the ones that support a card. [00:27] witz (n=witz@unaffiliated/witz) left irc: "leaving" [00:27] think it was just to see if it could use rockbox with the internal memory...the clip also was tried with rockbox and that was it's holdback [00:28] MLanden: Yeah, I think some are still trying to get it on the clip. My clip has 2 GB built-in. There's also 4 GB models. [00:29] it is still an active project? [00:29] MLanden: The .rockbox directory on mine is 4.8 MB. [00:29] Yes, I think it is, but I'm not sure. [00:30] Thursap (n=bnguyen@118.71.110.203) joined ##slackware. [00:32] that's a good plus,firebird619..that you can reformat it and slackware still sees it as a UMS [00:32] Hmm, my one album still doesn't have the info on CDDB, it came out a little over a month ago. [00:33] MLanden: Yeah, it is. [00:33] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:34] haha, it said it couldn't retrieve the cddb data, yet it shows it anyway. [00:36] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-161-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:38] rockbox is cool [00:39] antler: Yes, it sure is. I was just working on ripping my two newest albums to put on my player. [00:40] next mission after that, album art. :) [00:40] the flip feature,firebird619? [00:40] I'll check that out, yes. [00:41] sweet [00:41] Ugh, they have to be in .bmp format. [00:42] When using the cover manager in amarok, that downloads each album art to the respective artist directory, correct? [00:42] firebird619: oh yeah? which ones did you get? [00:43] i like that it doesn't wipe out the apple firmware on my ipod, and that i can switch between the original and rockbox easily. [00:43] antler: my two latest albums are Red - Innocence and Instinct and Papa Roach - Metamorphosis. [00:43] firebird619: cool [00:43] antler: Yeah, I really like that it doesn't mess with the firmware of the player and you can bypass it. [00:44] Sweet, rockbox's web site even has a script to run that resizes, renames, etc. the album art. [00:45] firebird619: but alas i uninstalled it a few months ago :P [00:45] Hmm, that might not work for me though, that's for embedded cover art. [00:45] antler: Why? [00:46] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [00:46] i have the 5th gen 60 gb ipod video. i only listen to music. i really like the simple playlist capability the orginal firm gives me. :P [00:46] i've never watched a video on it [00:46] i've owned it for 4 or 5 years [00:47] Desperado667 (n=Miranda@c-67-163-242-137.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:47] Hi guys. Do you know of any ftp server where you can configure individual file permissions? Like user1 has access to dir1, user2 has access to dir1 and dir2, etc. I have looked at vsftpd but that is fairly basic. proftpd didn't have any neat solution either. Any ideas? [00:47] rockbox is too feature-laden for my needs, in short. [00:47] but it's still way cool :D [00:47] antler: Nothing wrong with that. You use what works and fits your needs. [00:47] true [00:48] antler: way, way, cool. :P [00:49] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:49] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:50] I can point amarok at my player and just have it download the album art for that, can't I? [00:52] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "i did more this weekend than in the last 10 weeks... gahh im tired" [00:52] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-230-056.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [00:52] Which version of amarok,firebird619? [00:53] 1.4.x series. [00:53] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-230-056.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:53] if you have musicbrainz installed [00:53] 1.4.10 to be exact. [00:53] MLanden: Yes, I do have that installed.. [00:54] than,it should be able to firebird619 [00:54] s/than/then [00:54] cmk_zzz: you can use to restrict user access by directory in proftpd [00:54] MLanden: Ok, Thanks. [00:55] amarok is cool but like banshee..it's too bloated for my use [00:55] MLanden: What do you use? [00:56] BadAtom: I'll have a look again thanbks [00:56] consonance..little gtk player [00:57] MLanden: Hmm, never heard of it. SBo? [00:57] and exaile from time to time [00:59] Cool. I got all my album art now. I just need to convert it to .bmp. [01:00] no,dunno if there's a build for it(consonance,that is) [01:00] man imagemagick [01:01] Thanks straterra [01:02] up [01:02] yup [01:04] LinuxyErin (n=erin@76.208.82.72) left irc: "leaving" [01:04] --- Ping reply from slackboy : 12.92 second(s) [01:04] omg! [01:05] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@20150171233.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:05] edman007: whoa, connection troubles? [01:05] almost 13 seconds?!? [01:06] helluva lag>:o [01:06] no kidding. :) [01:07] http://www.pastie.org/451890 -> can anyone tell me how to get slackware to 'pick up' on that event and load rndis_host.ko ??? [01:07] firebird619, i'm trying to download gnash through bzr/http (so trunk), listen to an audio stream, browse the web, and send some email over a single ssh connection (xchat shares it too) [01:07] and that connection is over my school network [01:07] ah, I see. [01:08] so anyways, i'm sitting here lagging, and switch to one app, do something, and then switch to the next [01:08] by the time i get back to it it hopefully is done loading [01:08] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:09] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:09] kinesis: are you using odccm? [01:09] edman007: it was worse for me when i was in vietnam. now, i enjoy download speeds 1.5 - 2 mb/sec :D [01:10] antler, hahaha [01:10] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-99-139-49-76.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:12] antler, usually its not too bad here, i think the big issue is my school has really funny traffic shaping, they let high bursts go through, but if you sustain it for 10 seconds to drop to 2 meg or so, and if you hold that for 5 minutes or so you drop to 200kbps or so...and something more like 50kbps [01:12] 4/20! [01:13] Hi misspwn. How are you? [01:13] edman007: ah [01:13] fantastical what about you firebird619 ? [01:14] edman007: that sucks [01:14] though i'm not so sure its even intentional...its so bad its too laggy to play an FPS between two different rooms (so it just bounces off one AP and it lags like that), we usually setup our own IP when we do games [01:14] that's what happens when you steal the colleges mascot mr pony [01:14] misspwn, ehh...4/20? its going to suck, too many people smoke near my room :( [01:15] saweet hehe [01:15] open your door [01:15] misspwn: I'm doing great. Thank you. [01:15] misspwn, :( [01:15] oh come on edman007 live a little [01:16] Action: edman007 hates all forms of smoking [01:16] edman007: +1 [01:16] i don't have a problem with the drug portion, i hate the smoke part [01:16] so you'd be ok with some coccaine haha [01:16] then don't smoke it, eat it [01:16] and technically its illegal to smoke within 50' of the building [01:16] yeah exactly [01:17] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [01:17] nullboy, i don't do drugs, but i consider that a personal thing [01:17] i'll smoke it for you [01:17] :) [01:17] 50 feet away from my monitor even [01:17] probally go out on the porch or something. [01:18] hi redtricicyle [01:18] What os odccm [01:18] no [01:18] I dont know what that is [01:18] starfruit (n=starfrui@cpe-98-155-141-157.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:18] how to read this table? what does the 5th line mean? http://rafb.net/p/ZA840o31.html [01:19] frullet, ( and any others ) here's a copy of my two scripts for the scanner. any comments welcome, hopefully if this works out well enough I put it on the wiki, it works well for me but YMMV :) http://pastebin.com/d2393c0db [01:20] Old_Fogie: Thanks. :) [01:20] yw :) [01:21] starfruit: that's your default gateway route entry [01:21] as usual, I comment the heck out of it, so it looks like more than it is. but I like to be able to come back to something and be re-educated if need be :) [01:21] lee555J5 (n=lee@24-178-190-45.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:21] Nick change: aceofspa1es19 -> aceofspades19 [01:21] Old_Fogie: That's a good idea. :) [01:22] yea, I don't do stuff like this day in/out, so a few months down the pike, I'm sure to forget it. [01:22] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:22] neonflux (n=quassel@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:23] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:23] nullboy, is there any documentation i can read to explain each field? [01:23] Old_Fogie: If I can figure it all out, I'll probably write a script for myself to convert all my album art so it works with rockbox on my mp3 player. [01:23] nullboy, like what is 0.0.0.0? all ips? wildcard mask? [01:24] firebird619, use the 'convert' command [01:24] firebird619, it's part of imagemagick, that's what I use in that script, to convert the sane default file format of pnm to jpg [01:24] Yeah, I've used that before, works great. Rockbox needs .bmp files. Mine are in .jpg. [01:24] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:25] starfruit: 0.0.0.0 means either "all IPs" or "no IPs", depending on context [01:25] and I need to make it so it's recursive and goes through every folder and converts the image. [01:26] Old_Fogie: looks the goods mate [01:26] e.g. in the output of "route -n", 0.0.0.0 means "all IPs that don't have a more specific route listed" [01:26] but "ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0" means "assign no IP address to eth0" [01:26] firebird619, you'll use a combo of 'find' and something like this (well these are if they're all in one directory for i in *.bmp; do convert $i `basename $i .bmp`.jpg; done [01:26] Urchlay, ok, thx [01:27] firebird619, oh the other way around on the bmp jpg there but you get the drift [01:27] Drecoy (n=MBSTO@189.132.51.151) joined ##slackware. [01:27] slaxxer (n=brian@ip72-204-125-6.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:27] Drecoy (n=MBSTO@189.132.51.151) left ##slackware ("lachadesuma..."). [01:27] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [01:28] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:28] Old_Fogie: Yes, I do. Thanks. I had a unix class in college that taught for statements, etc. but when you don't use it all the time, it easily falls into the depths of forgetfullness. :) [01:28] amen to that [01:29] you might forget exact details (does a semicolon go here or not), but try to remember at least the concepts [01:29] Practice make perverts...hmmm,perfect..:D [01:29] Sorry....;) [01:29] Action: antler wishes he had taken at least one unix course when he was in university [01:29] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:29] I would have, but they didn't have unix then :) [01:29] MLanden: lol. :P [01:29] ehh, wait, how old are you, fogie? [01:30] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:30] Old_Fogie: i didn't even know what unix was then, so same thing i guess.... [01:30] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-126.dial.telus.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:31] tuvok302-a (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-37.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [01:31] Nick change: tuvok302-a -> tuvok302 [01:31] switch pcs [01:31] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [01:31] antler: I took that and other courses. Then, I used the likes of Ubuntu, Fedora, etc. and didn't use any of those commands, scripts, etc. and lost some of what I learned. I still have all my books from college though. Nice reference guides. [01:31] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-99-139-49-76.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:31] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[01:34] :D [01:35] eh, that was a different character that said that though [01:35] MCP [01:36] been a while since I've seen it [01:38] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:38] Anyone ever get the chance to play Tron 2.0? [01:39] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:40] there wasn't Linux yet when Tron was made, but they could have avoided all that trouble by running BSD UNIX [01:40] witz (n=witz@unaffiliated/witz) joined ##slackware. [01:41] then when Flynn gets zapped into the computer, all the program-people would be getting high, wearing glowing sandals, and have names like "star" and "fern"... [01:41] the big rotating MCP head would have been converted into a communal bong [01:41] lol [01:41] frullet (n=Bob@124-168-168-79.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [01:42] fry their brains instead of de-rez 'em..:D [01:42] is tron worth watching. i don't even remember... saw it as a kid [01:42] the tanks would all be parked, with big fractal flowers sticking out of their barrels [01:42] kinda,antler....good for a laugh [01:43] antler: yeah, I'd say worth watching, for the nostalgia factor, and for amusement. Don't expect to be able to take it seriously, but it's fun [01:44] Desperado667 (n=Miranda@c-67-163-242-137.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org" [01:44] also it's funny to see jeff bridges (the big lebowski) and bruce boxleitner (commander of babylon 5) looking so young and dorky [01:45] I'd be like yelling..Can I have a bigger disc,,,no way can I store what I've got on THIS?!? [01:45] Ugh, privoxy is fuzzing out on me. I've done the usual to install/config it and when I run the daemon it just crashes without error. [01:45] antler: also if you like early electronic music, the soundtrack is cool (mostly done on an original moog synth) [01:46] think it was mixed with the computer's sound systems of the time Atari 1200,Apple IIe,C64 [01:46] yeah, some of the sound effects were done that way [01:47] the actual music wasn't though [01:47] Urchlay MLanden : cool [01:47] sound effects,that's right...damn you,Mr Wizard...:D [01:47] now you're making me want to watch it again :) [01:48] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:48] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:49] Straced it, http://pastebin.ca/1397083 Funny I run /etc/rc.d/rc.privoxy and then status, nothing. [01:50] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-161-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left ##slackware. [01:50] witz: I don;t know privoxy well, but does it have a verbose mode (-v or something)? [01:51] witz: also in the init script you might put "ulimit -c unlimited" and see if it dumps core [01:52] Doesn't seem to have a verbose dump option. [01:52] i had to put privoxy in rc.local and rc.local_shutdown [01:52] i don't know why but it would not work otherwise [01:52] witz: is this built from slackbuilds.org's script? [01:52] Yes. [01:53] and you did create the privoxy user and group on the machine where you installed the package? [01:53] Yep [01:53] I've installed privoxy on my other machines without issues.. first time. [01:54] misspwn (n=misspwn@67-54-166-220.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:54] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) left ##slackware. [01:54] gonna try it on my slack 12.2 laptop... you using the default privoxy config? (assuming there is one) [01:54] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:54] Yes, other than the line needed to relay with tor. [01:54] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:55] Only thing I've done is make the correct groups,install then mod quickly the config. I can't really think of anything else. [01:56] and you tried it without the tor stuff, and it fails the same way? [01:56] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-166-220.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [01:56] I can't get privoxy to run. I execute it, goes clean, then I look in the process list and nothing. [01:57] right... but does it fail to run whether or not you have the line in the config file that makes it use tor? [01:57] ah [01:57] Let me try quickly. [01:58] hm. It fails to run on my laptop too, apparently [01:58] Ok, no go even with default config file. [01:58] >.> [01:58] yeah, failing here with default config also [01:59] try this: sh -x /etc/rc.d/rc.privoxy start [02:00] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.149.95.84) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:00] (it'll still fail, but it'll let us know whether the script is even getting to the bit where it tries to execute the binary or not) [02:01] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.149.95.84) joined ##slackware. [02:01] ah, I see the trouble: --pidfile /var/run.pid [02:01] I believe it has tried to execute it. [02:01] if you "strace -f" it, you'll see: [pid 25450] unlink("/var/run.pid") = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) [02:01] Oh another strange thing is, when I run /etc/rc.d/rc.privoxy start it always says "Starting privoxy: Zombie lock file found" [02:01] the init script is telling to create a pid file in a directory where it has no write permission [02:02] hm [02:03] change the pid file to live in /var/run/privoxy and them chown that dir to privoxy.privoxy [02:03] in process of typing that very command now :) [02:03] Urchlay: I'm not finding such. [02:04] That's executed for the privoxy binary correct? [02:04] yeah. When you ran "sh -x /etc/rc.d/rc.privoxy" [02:04] slackytude (n=hotline@79.216.140.219) joined ##slackware. [02:05] good morning [02:05] its way too early [02:05] Action: slackytude needs coffee [02:05] Old_Fogie: I figured this out now. Works great. :) Is there a way to read the tags of the audio files and change the name to the artist? [02:05] slackytude: Good morning. How are you? [02:05] output -> http://pastebin.ca/1397093 Urchlay [02:05] bleah, changing PRIVOXY_PID in the rc.privoxy script, but strace shows it still using the wrong pidfile [02:06] Old_Fogie: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/12802 [02:06] firebird619, hey, Im still half asleep, only catched 4 hours sleep. fine, otherwise. [02:06] errr, witz, add " start" to the end of that command line [02:06] firebird619, how do you do? [02:06] lol [02:06] sh -x /etc/rc.d/rc.privoxy start [02:06] firebird619, you'll want to use 'exiftool' for metadata extraction [02:07] slackytude: Ugh, only four hours. [02:07] slackytude: I'm doing great. Thanks. [02:07] my own damn fault [02:07] Old_Fogie: Ok, thank you. [02:07] exiftool's not just for photos :) [02:07] Old_Fogie: I guess not. :D [02:07] a powerhouse of a binary that exiftool is [02:07] Urchlay: http://pastebin.ca/1397098 [02:07] witz: now it looks exactly like what's happening when I do it [02:07] :-/ [02:07] which is still bad, but at least we can replicate each others' results [02:08] Somethings majorly fscked up. [02:08] yeah, and if you edit rc.privoxy, set PRIVOXY_PID="/var/run/privoxy/pid" [02:09] and mkdir /var/run/privoxy; chown privoxy.privoxy /var/run/privoxy [02:09] eh, privoxy [02:09] that gets you past the pidfile error... but it's still choking on something else [02:09] never had trouble with pivoxy [02:10] slackytude: So, if I see this: "asdffsdkfjwekjsdfoj" from you, I should assume you've fell asleep on the keyboard? :P [02:10] firebird619, that would be bad [02:10] (the fact that it's trying to use "/var/run.pid" as its pid file is one bug in the SlackBuild, no denying that) [02:10] Action: slackytude is at work [02:10] slackytude: at work, oh that would be bad. [02:10] hey, look what I found: $PRIVOXY 2>/dev/tty9 [02:10] gotta go to university in two hours and back to work after [02:11] do *you* have a /dev/tty9? [02:11] press ctrl-alt-f9 [02:11] Urchlay: do you know what the point of that redirection is? [02:11] Apparently not [02:12] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@89-212-36-81.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [02:12] bojevnik_ (n=bojevnik@89.212.36.81) joined ##slackware. [02:12] nullboy: not entirely, but I know it's not actually producing any output on tty9 either [02:12] bojevnik_ (n=bojevnik@89.212.36.81) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:12] yeah same here [02:12] however.... [02:12] well mainly because tty9 isn't even configured on a default slackware system [02:12] dont you do that with syslog usually [02:12] # echo shit > /dev/tty9 [02:12] pressing ctrl-alt-F9, I see an empty black console without "shit" on it [02:13] starfruit (n=starfrui@cpe-98-155-141-157.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:13] yeah [02:13] what the hell [02:13] great, now I have a black screen with shit on it [02:13] lol [02:13] *written on it [02:13] Haha [02:13] lol [02:13] *however*, that redirection is *not* the problem [02:13] if you remove the > /dev/tty9 from the script, it *still* fails to start privoxy [02:14] pisses me, that privoxy works on a identical machine. [02:15] hey, look in /var/log/privoxy/logfile [02:15] Apr 20 02:14:40.147 b7ec46c0 Fatal error: can't load actions file '/etc/privoxy/match-all.action': No such file or directory. Note that beginning with Privoxy 3.0.7, actions files have to be specified with their complete file names. [02:15] we should ask alkos about this later [02:16] Wtf. [02:16] there's /etc/privoxy/match-all.action.new which the doinst.sh failed to rename to /etc/privoxy/match-all.action [02:16] same thing [02:16] frullet (n=Bob@124-168-168-79.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [02:16] Nick change: E[m]ess -> Emess [02:16] Anonymous Network I2P 0.7.2 Released [02:17] mv /etc/privoxy/match-all.action.new /etc/privoxy/match-all.action [02:17] I do that, and now privoxy fires right up [02:17] privoxy 25583 0.0 0.1 2580 976 ? Ss 02:16 0:00 /usr/bin/privoxy --user privoxy privoxy --pidfile /var/run/privoxy/pid /etc/privoxy/config [02:17] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [02:18] Okey, it's running now lets test [02:18] so this slackbuild (a) doesn't work, and (b) does something unexpected & weird (logging to /dev/tty9) [02:19] oh noes! [02:19] is this new privoxy slackbuild? [02:19] oh, is it new? [02:20] I was asking that [02:20] cos privoxy was working great for me all the time [02:20] (I just grabbed it from the site for the first time a few minutes ago, no idea if it's new or not) [02:20] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) joined ##slackware. [02:20] well, yeah, SBo changelog shows it's new as of 3 days ago [02:20] yikes, its not redirecting.. [02:22] eh, I haven't even RTFM'ed enough to know... is it testable with "links -http-proxy localhost:8118 http://google.com"? [02:22] prodor (n=prodor@200.92.235.42) left irc: "halt system" [02:22] yes it is [02:22] (if I kill privoxy, links fails... if it's running, it works fine) [02:24] okies, now privoxy+tor is running fine and dandy. yay [02:24] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [02:24] looks like doinst.sh needs a line at the bottom, "config etc/privoxy/match-all.action.new" [02:25] and rc.privoxy needs patching to use a pid file it can actually write to [02:27] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [02:27] Least it's working for now. ;) [02:27] rockin' [02:28] Thanks, Urchlay [02:29] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [02:33] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [02:33] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [02:34] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:34] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:34] witz: no problem... I actually like doing stuff like that, too bad I can't get paid to do it :( [02:35] I do too, but when you're caught up with other stuff and so I need things to just work. :P [02:36] Or, rather lazy due to fact nothing else breaks under slackware hehe. [02:36] yeah, SBo packages as a general rule are rock-solid, this one must have somehow slipped under someone's radar [02:37] second lyer denfse got it tho [02:37] thats us [02:37] (for some reason, 'tis the season for everyone to submit new slackbuilds, so the admins are being flooded with stuff...) [02:38] New 'builds are always nice. [02:38] unless they don't work [02:38] yeah, and I'm guilty of going on a nostalgia trip, making builds for 10-15 old games I used to play years ago :) [02:39] (does anyone else remember koules, from slackware 3.x?) [02:39] not really [02:39] sounds familiar.Urchlay [02:40] http://www.pastie.org/451890 -> can anyone tell me how to get slackware to 'pick up' on that event and load rndis_host.ko ??? [02:40] actually [02:40] rndis_host.ko insmod gives this error: [02:40] insmod: error inserting './rndis_host.ko': -1 Invalid module format [02:40] slackytude: in a couple days there'll be a new package of it on SBo, with KDE desktop integration even... you ought to try it if you feel like playing a game, it's addictive [02:40] Urchlay, page me, then [02:41] everything compiled fine but it wont load the module [02:41] kinesis: what does "file rndis_host.ko" say? [02:41] one sec [02:41] rndis_host.ko: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped [02:41] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [02:41] well that much looks OK anyway [02:42] going to try recompiling the kernel to the newest one [02:42] bleeding edge [02:42] huge.s is too... huge [02:42] have you tried modprobe instead of insmod? (can't remember, think you can get "invalid module format" from insmod if you haven't loaded any of its deps) [02:42] yeah [02:42] same deal [02:42] err. You ought to try the shipped kernel-generic before compiling your own [02:42] i think the shit loaded once but i rm'd the modules by hand from /usr/lib/modules/linux-2.6.whatever [02:43] might have broke something [02:43] dammit, someone needs to write up a "switching from huge to generic HOWTO" doc [02:43] ehh, ive compiled kernel in slackware many many times [02:43] i got it down to a fine art [02:43] ok cool [02:43] well do you do it using LOCALVERSION? [02:43] i take my current dmesg [02:43] yeah [02:43] this ones going to be -lenovo [02:44] since its custom for my lenovo s10 [02:44] or -kinesis idk [02:44] actually i am going to make it -s10 [02:44] looks neater [02:44] you can compile kernels, but ot switch between them? [02:44] one hint: any time you're running the huge kernel and try to load a module that's already statically built into the kernel, you get that same error [02:45] "invalid module format" [02:45] right [02:46] i dont think microsoft rndis is built in, doesnt seem to work rgarldess when i plug the internet sharing enabled PDA into my netbook [02:47] hm, it appears to be built as a module even in the -huge config [02:47] SLAB or SLUB [02:47] $ grep -i rndis /boot/config-huge-smp-2.6.27.7-smp [02:47] for a netbook? [02:47] ... [02:47] CONFIG_USB_NET_RNDIS_WLAN=m [02:47] CONFIG_USB_NET_RNDIS_HOST=m [02:47] hmmmmm [02:47] yeah [02:47] rndis host [02:47] ok so i removed the kernel modules then >.< [02:48] its cool im recompiling, everything will be golden [02:48] grep lib/modules/2.6.27.7-smp/.*rndis /var/adm/packages/kernel-* [02:48] what do you recommend for [02:48] I don't recommend anything for a netbook, cause I've never used one :) [02:48] a netbook, slab or slub? [02:48] intel atom processor [02:49] dunno anything about the intel atom either, it didn't exist last time I did my "learn all the new shit that's come out in the past couple years" sweep :) [02:49] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:49] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [02:49] lol [02:49] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:50] seriously, I used to drive myself insane trying to keep up with all new developments... these days I've decided I don't have it in me [02:50] I dont care [02:51] should i go with tickless system [02:51] save battery? [02:52] are you going to ask us every config option? [02:52] yeah [02:52] jk no [02:54] would an intel atom be more like a pentium M or a core 2/newer xeon [02:54] no [02:55] atom is not a pentium its in its own class. [02:55] trying to figure out which i should put into the kernel config [02:55] oh... [02:55] Linux Kernel menunconfig [02:56] gonna chekc google sorry [02:56] kinesis: http://www.intel.com/products/processor/index.htm [02:57] this is the Processor Family option in menuconfig [02:57] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433931.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:58] What hardware are you installing that kernel on? [02:58] Jimmen (n=Devilman@host139-173-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [02:58] Thats the one I would suggest adding support for. XD [02:58] a lenovo s10 ideapad netbook [02:59] i heard its similar to prescott [02:59] reaver__ (n=reaver@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [02:59] im prolly just going to select that [02:59] s10's I think have atom processors in them if I remember reading correctly [02:59] Shuren (n=Devilman@host62-170-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:02] I had a friend who had an S-10, it had a V-6 in it I thought [03:02] Haha I still remember the day when I was 11yrs old... Pentium MMX 200MHz was coming out January 8, 1997 haha. [03:02] (oh, right, chevy, not lenovo...) [03:02] Urchlay: lol yes they do :) [03:02] haha ;) [03:02] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:03] when I was 11 years old, if you'd told me one day there would be a 200MHz CPU, but everyone would consider it slow and obsolete, I might not have believed you... [03:03] Urchlay: you have to remember anything from china is lower power then US products :D [03:03] Just like no one needs more then 64kb of ram? :) [03:04] i bet you its more like a Crusoe [03:04] lol [03:04] Crusoe remmeber those old school budget processors [03:04] morning :) [03:04] cjsarette (n=cjsarett@ip68-104-228-29.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [03:04] kinesis: you're making me feel old. I remember when Crusoe was "the new hotness" or whatever the kids call it these days [03:05] morning Camarade_Tux lol (its early in the morning here 1am). [03:05] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [03:05] well the atom is like the crusoe of the 00's [03:05] 21st century [03:06] haha [03:06] netbook is slow? [03:06] irc makes me feel old too [03:06] nah its pretty good [03:07] if you put winxp pro it runs nice [03:07] all them new kids and their toys [03:07] get of my lawn! [03:07] and im hacking linux up on it [03:07] lf4, already 9am here ;) [03:08] and I have a math exam at 10:15 :) [03:08] a netbook distro based on slack would be really good : light and doesn't need many updates [03:09] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:09] slackytude: no one I talk to even knows about IRC [03:09] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.147.54) joined ##slackware. [03:09] Get off my lawn and take that PC kid!!!He keeps freezin' when he steps in the dog $#!7....:D [03:09] Camarade_Tux: Oh good luck with the test. [03:10] lf4, thanks, it should be quite easy :) [03:10] kinesis: how are you hacking linux on the s10? have you tried a PXE install? [03:10] I have discovered I actually prefer it if my real-life friends don't know about IRC, or at least don't have any interest in hanging in the channels I'm in [03:10] (well, I *hope* it will) [03:10] Urchlay++ ;-) [03:10] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-37.dial.telus.net) left irc: "nite nite" [03:10] daidoji (n=daidoji7@97-115-78-31.ptld.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [03:10] except for the other nerds actually :) [03:10] Urchlay: haha secrets huh [03:10] daidoji (n=daidoji7@97-115-78-31.ptld.qwest.net) left ##slackware. [03:11] Urchlay: what are you afraid for others to know? [03:11] I was a network admin for the city I lived in along with two others the one that was 4 years old them myself did not have a clue what IRC was and the one that was 40+ I am willing to bet did. [03:11] nothing, I just use IRC to get away from real life... if real life follows me here, well, it's not really getting away... [03:12] Urchlay: good point :) [03:12] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78.86.1.110) joined ##slackware. [03:12] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-164-177.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:12] I just come and absorb. [03:12] lol [03:12] though it usually is fun to meet IRC folks in person [03:12] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:12] IRC, BBS and Usenet are classics. [03:13] man, there were some seriously strange individuals in the BBS world, way back when [03:13] Never met anyone online first and then in person, it's always been the reverse for myself. [03:13] ^_^ [03:13] What?!? you mean you don't A/S/L at intro? comment from one of my old friends who became a yahoo junkie..:D [03:14] lol [03:14] there was the one guy who couldn't even pronounce "binary" but he insisted he wrote some Atari game himself... I said "Oh, what assembler did you use?" and he says "I did it all in whaddyacallit, binairy, all 1's and 0's" [03:14] haha [03:15] bin-airy? [03:15] netbook screen is too small [03:15] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:15] LOL...so that was the one who wrote eggomania....:D [03:15] MLanden: I remember doing that but I changed it to A/G/L [03:15] actually there was an exta syllable in there... bye-an-airy [03:15] What provides the Python Imaging Library. Is that in Slack already? [03:15] (think deep south hillbilly drawl...) [03:16] hehe [03:16] Urchlay: haha wow I'll have to remember that. [03:16] there was the guy we all thought was a wizard, who ran the first-ever multiline chat BBS in the area [03:16] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-55-52-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:16] on an apple IIe, with 8 300 baud modems, IIRC [03:17] ...one day the board went down & never came back up, we found out he got busted for child molesting [03:17] Ahh, nevermind, I found it. It's under the name pil on SBo. [03:18] The BBS sysops could be a quite weird set [03:19] one sysop I knew was an electronics expert, owned his own TV/stereo/etc repair shop, he could fix anything [03:19] one night while soldering something in his basement, he flicked a blob of solder into his eye [03:19] I kinda of want to start a BBS for fun no one probably would get on it though. [03:19] Ouch! [03:19] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [03:20] (hot solder, still liquid, so it turned into a silver "contact lens") [03:20] in 2009? [03:20] Solder hurts on skin I can't imagine what it would feel like on the eye, don't think I want to either. [03:20] this guy, being a do-it-yourselfer type, took a pair of pliers and pulled it off his eye (along with the outer surface of his cornea) [03:20] DeeeeP (i=1003@bl8-65-68.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:20] oh god [03:20] Damn?!? [03:21] I gotta admit, the eyepatch look was good for him :) [03:21] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@pool-64-223-224-206.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:21] haha [03:21] (happy ending to the story, a few months later it healed up just fine, no permanent vision loss even) [03:21] oh yeah [03:21] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:21] oh wow, lucky [03:21] Urchlay: He's very lucky then. [03:21] ...but did he start using safety goggles when soldering, after that? [03:21] ...nope [03:22] haha lesson not learned [03:22] heh, not at all. [03:22] O.o [03:22] I ought to look the guy up, bet he's still around the area [03:22] makes me think of the unfortunate shop teacher..the one they call Stubby Pete [03:22] find out whether his younger daughter is still single :) [03:23] Anakin (n=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [03:23] DeeeeP (i=1003@bl10-116-164.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [03:24] Urchlay,was his younger daughter hot? [03:24] oh yeah [03:24] but too young for me back then (she was 14, I was 17) [03:24] lol this was 40 years ago and now.... lol no so much ;) [03:24] right :) [03:24] legal now...:D [03:24] I need to get active again, I haven't logged on regularly in .. like 6 months. Slackware channel's always a blast. [03:24] (no, not really 40 years ago, more like 25...) [03:25] Action: lf4 wasn't even born at the time. [03:25] eh, well, more like 20 I guess, if I was 17 [03:25] 34's not bad...:D [03:26] True... my friend married a 32yr old and she looked 24 to me. [03:26] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: "Reconnecting" [03:26] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [03:26] the older I get the more hazy I get on how old I was when something happened... [03:26] duryodhan (n=devdatta@nat/yahoo/x-c5652efa6200ef8b) joined ##slackware. [03:26] duryodhan (n=devdatta@nat/yahoo/x-c5652efa6200ef8b) left irc: Client Quit [03:26] I'd love to find a girl my own age, who hasn't already been married & divorced a couple times :( [03:27] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-83-223-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [03:27] duryodhan (n=devdatta@nat/yahoo/x-74aa418681eab1c9) joined ##slackware. [03:27] hear ya,urchlay [03:28] duryodhan (n=devdatta@nat/yahoo/x-74aa418681eab1c9) left irc: Client Quit [03:28] Going to hit the bunk, laters. [03:28] later,witz [03:28] later witz [03:28] later witz [03:28] witz (n=witz@unaffiliated/witz) left irc: "leaving" [03:28] duryodhan (n=duryodha@nat/yahoo/x-f174daf94c987ffc) joined ##slackware. [03:29] habtool_ (n=habtool@86-41-83-223-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [03:29] troys (n=troys@68.165.100.2) left irc: "Leaving" [03:30] pacman87 (i=500@resnet-46-40.dorm.utexas.edu) left ##slackware. [03:30] Urchlay, same for me [03:30] duryodhan (n=duryodha@nat/yahoo/x-f174daf94c987ffc) left irc: Client Quit [03:31] duryodhan (n=duryodha@nat/yahoo/x-fde281648f0088a1) joined ##slackware. [03:32] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [03:34] Action: slackytude is bored [03:34] entertain me! [03:34] slackytude: !!! [03:34] y0 nullboy [03:35] well, er, I can't think of any good jokes [03:35] knock knock... who's there... dead babies... [03:35] nah [03:35] slackytude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk0EtQKvJfs [03:35] O_o [03:35] i shot that today [03:35] i [03:35] SFW? [03:35] yeah [03:36] eh [03:36] nifty stuff [03:36] just screwing around in the desert [03:36] thats you? [03:36] yeah i'm driving [03:37] very cool! [03:37] driving with one hand, typing with other? neat trick [03:37] nullboy: What bike color would say a honda but thats a wild guess. [03:37] lf4: yeah honda CRF 250 [03:37] Nice [03:38] everybody does exciting stuff cept me [03:38] lol [03:38] HP laptop is pretty good [03:38] its work and uni for me :( [03:38] slackytude: we've all done that :) [03:38] I'm still doing that [03:39] still [03:39] I feel the need to do something besides that [03:39] Though I'm going to try and get some nice pictures or video of snowboarding this wednesday, you should come join me :) [03:39] I was thinking of doing one semester in foreign parts, at least [03:40] going to another country is really a good experiance. [03:40] Action: slackytude nods [03:40] Id probably lose me job here, tho [03:40] lol thats not a good experiance. [03:40] mrS (n=Sven@cc1312074-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:41] Action: slackytude shrugs [03:41] I guess I could get a different one [03:41] this one isnt bad tho [03:42] 9 days... [03:42] i like chasing those land yachts with the dirtbike. they are all having a nice tranquil wind driven tour of the lake bed and then i blow by them wide open [03:43] hahaha yeah land yachts are a lot more quiet then a bike and two strokes are worse then trail ones. [03:43] http://tinyurl.com/c2d4ux [03:44] nix_chix0r: ??? [03:44] i'm looking at that again this week [03:45] Not bad a little pricey I would say. [03:45] i think i can talk them down on the price [03:46] since it has 120k [03:46] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-83-223-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:46] Action: Camarade_Tux wants a lotus elise ! [03:46] plus i'd be putting 2grand down i'm sure they'd give me a better deal [03:46] land yachts? [03:46] like my 1976 gran torino station wagon? [03:46] Mine had 124k and was only $3k [03:47] Action: Urchlay misses the sensation of sailing over the road in that thing [03:47] yeah thats a good idea you should see if they would drop the price [03:47] you had a mazda? [03:47] No Audi A6 [03:47] Urchlay: What was the mpg for that one? [03:47] was the other way around, gallons per mile :) [03:48] haha [03:48] lol [03:48] (seriously, it was about 7 or 8 mpg, but it was old and falling apart when I got it) [03:48] theres an audi at a dealership a6 that was 4thousand ish but it had 154k on there and the huby said i'd probally only get a little more life out of it. i honestly have no idea how many miles a car will actuallyt ake before the engine dies i've never had a car that long probally cause i've only had two cars [03:48] had a 73 torino so I know what you mean [03:49] i've seen cars with well over 300k on them so that's why i always wonder [03:49] and that mazda is just so incredibly sexy [03:49] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:49] All cars I've driven or owned would get over 250k miles [03:50] oh i'm positive i'd get more than 5 years out of that car if i got it then [03:50] lol thats the key get something you will like :) [03:50] I put 6k miles on my audi and I had it only since Feb haha [03:51] yeah he crashed my 03 focus on christmast eve laste year so it's tough with one car and a kid i'm stuck at home and i've been saving up as well as he has since he did the damage:)) [03:51] i was told no more than 8thousand lol [03:51] aww thats not a nice christmas present. [03:51] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:51] see if i can sweet talk the dealer down as much as possible [03:51] lol [03:51] yeah that would be a nice idea to try. [03:53] if i made more than the monthly payments i'd pay it off within a year i'm sure. be nice to not have to make payments on a car but once it's mine man it's mine for as long as possible [03:53] they have it marked at the bluebook value, i never bought a used car from a dealer though so I dont know how they work. [03:53] Thats true [03:54] Should get a Ford Pinto lol who doesn't like driving around in a firebomb? :D [03:54] rofl [03:54] my friend had one [03:54] no heat or ac [03:54] running on 3cylenders [03:54] and a donut [03:54] haha [03:55] lol [03:55] yeah we live in minnesota that car finally died thank god cause i was worried he'd have me try to steal tires from the beat up one we have puttering around here [03:55] I'd get it just for the doughnut :) [03:56] MLanden: I got PictureFlow working on rockbox, it's really nice, but it isn't showing half my album art images, even though they are the right name. [03:56] a gremlin would be cool to have, or an el camino [03:56] cool to hear,firebird619 [03:56] MLanden: Now I just need to figure out why it's not showing all album art. [03:56] lf4, for 7grand i can buy his dads 92 camaro with 550 hp [03:56] I'm rebuilding a 1955 Belair my dad got when he was 19. [03:57] nix_chix0r: oh why not do that? lol that would be really nice if its in good condition. [03:57] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:57] firebird619:check the name...maybe it doesn't like spaces or punctuation [03:57] it's in mint, but it's a 2door and car seats are a pain in the ass :)) plus i'd have to move the nitrous [03:58] MLanden: I used cover.bmp for all of them. There's only certain names rockbox looks for. [03:58] wha... nitrous? aren't you going to be driving a little kid to soccer practice or something? [03:58] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:58] thats true which is why I did not get a sport style of car, not very practical. [03:58] lol, she'll get there faster. :P [03:58] yeah Urchlay that's why it wouldn't be a great idea. it's a nice summer car for fun but not one for a kid [03:58] haha its the new age of soccer moms.... they drag race while the kids play soccer. [03:58] maybe when he's 6 i'll take him for a spin [03:59] might be in the codec of the bmp,firebird619...What's the dimensions of the bmp files? [03:59] lf4: haha [03:59] his friends would be jealous cause i'm a cool mom [03:59] lf4: I have this mental picture of a soccer-mom version of the chase scene in "Mad Max 2"... [03:59] size I mean [03:59] MLanden: I'm not sure, I used a program listed on rockbox to download and embed the album art. [03:59] hahaha [04:00] Well, I have to get going. Have a good morning/afternoon/evening everyone. [04:00] if he wants to play soccer i'll drive him but i wont be one of those with a mini van [04:00] take care and good luck,firebird619 [04:00] if he rather be a computer geek i'm all for that as well [04:00] haha [04:00] why do they call those minivans anyway? they don't look very mini to me... [04:00] later firebird619 [04:00] Urchlay, good point [04:00] MLanden: Thanks. You take care as well. [04:00] i hate them [04:00] lf4: later. [04:00] because they are not Ford Econ vans lol [04:01] will do,firebird619 [04:01] nini firebird619 [04:01] Good night nix_chix0r. Take care. [04:01] i know a lady who has two kids and a mini van .. is it really necessary come'on [04:01] nix_chix0r: if each kid wanted two of their friends lol yes [04:02] nix_chix0r: My niece has a baby, she drove a mini van for a while. :D [04:02] hell i remember the 3day road trips to grandmas in the summer three of us piled in me in the middle of my two brothers being poked constantly. that's the whole point of growing up [04:02] Now she has a car though. [04:02] Anakin (n=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [04:03] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night"). [04:03] Action: lf4 will drive what gets the best gas mileage... look out! R6 here I come. [04:04] R6? [04:04] that's why i like the jettas they get great gas mileage and are sexy looking [04:04] and oodles of saftey features [04:04] my car would run on linux some how [04:05] I have a friend that drives a Jetta lol and I just found out she likes cars. 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[04:15] windows because the tech people for our satellite came out to repare shit and refused to work on a linux computer so i had to install it and they came out after 3weeks of not having internet so i just never used any of the desktops [04:15] hi there [04:15] Refused or couldn't? [04:16] between zenwalk,slackware, and gentoo this computer looks lame next to them all. probally couldn't more than anything [04:16] satellite internet? if it's anything like cable or dsl, normally they're OK with linux, provided I sit there and operate the machine [04:16] anytime i'd call i'd state the trouble shooting list myself of everything i've done to avoid them making me unplug the modem 8milliontmes [04:16] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78.86.1.110) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:16] like the guy wouldn't leave me alone about refusing to download their web optimiser [04:16] arny (n=arny@89.123.101.32) left ##slackware. [04:17] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:17] wtf is a web optimizer, anyway? [04:17] bs program [04:17] it basically acts as a cache thing for every thing you view, and scales pictures down so they look crappy but load quicker [04:18] more or less a b.s program [04:18] oh [04:18] yuck [04:18] rather run squid [04:19] an hour to go and i'll be able to sleep [04:19] optimizer kinda like sugar over a crappy bandwidth? [04:20] mhm [04:21] I take it you're in an area where satellite's your only realistic option? [04:21] yeah , i live in the woods [04:21] how does your upstream work? [04:21] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:21] (you don't seriously shoot a signal back at the satellite I guess...) [04:22] i chose to move here, but it's well worth it its both on an dish on a pole mount in my yard 100feet away. big cord to the modem i get 13gb download and 3gb upload a month. up to 1mb download for 70 a month [04:23] so you *do* talk back to the satellite [04:23] yeah [04:23] Sorry..poor choice of words,had to remove some of those bs optimizers on my uncle's laptop for it to work half way decent [04:23] (I remember the early versions, you used a 56K dialup for upstream) [04:27] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) left irc: "Where ever you may be, be well. Namarië." [04:27] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) joined ##slackware. [04:28] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. 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[05:56] zoran119: look in the file /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [05:57] eh, well, I was gonna say it's self-explanatory but it doesn't have an example [05:58] anyway. If it's your first interface that uses dhcp, add DHCP_TIMEOUT[0]=5 to the section where all the IPADDR[0] etc. stuff is [05:58] (change the 0 to a 1 for 2nd interface, etc etc) [05:59] jonathanr (n=jonathan@87-194-164-154.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:00] vinograd19 (n=vino@vinograd19.static.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:01] eh, the timeout is in seconds, my example there is 5 sec, which might not be long enough (depends on your network) [06:02] Urchlay: so it will still have to attempt to contact dhcp [06:02] Hi everyone. /var/log/messages don't write anything when I'm pressing buttons on my laptop (like power). Acpid is running. How can I make acpid working? 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[06:13] zoran119: well, if you don't want to use dhcp at all, change USE_DHCP[0] to "no"... *that* part is self-explanatory surely [06:14] I thought you had the situation like I have, where it's a laptop that *usually* is used at my house or a friend's house where there's a DHCP server, but sometimes gets booted at a job site where it's not on the network [06:14] (in my case, setting the DHCP timeout to 5 sec is a good compromise: I still get an IP if there's a dhcp server around, but I don't wait too long if there's not) [06:15] okibisan (i=0@24-158-197-146.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:16] true,when you just want to use the laptop for games or for writing something and not be connected [06:18] what would be nice would be a way to background the DHCP client [06:19] the laptop doesn't mount any network filesystems, so it boots all the way to full multiuser whether DHCP works or not, so it might as well not pause & wait for a response [06:20] Ekc (n=iskar@79-100-12-217.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. 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[07:20] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host34-198-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "brb" [07:20] looks like me flatemate has been spotted [07:20] Oh? [07:22] andrew_46 (n=andrew@unaffiliated/andrew46/x-040147) left irc: "leaving" [07:22] aye [07:22] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009004004.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:22] his sister created a "missing person" site on some social networking thingy. lots and lots of people joined and someone spotted him, lurking around [07:23] Ah - good news then. [07:23] newbie question: when I execute a .sh, it's not exporting the vars I define in there to the bash env [07:23] isn't just "export var=val" ? [07:23] Kaapa: The file is executed in an other shell, not the one you're in. [07:24] I'm not doing a #!/bin/bash, so I'd expect it to execute in the same shell [07:24] Kaapa: thus "bash