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[01:36] me [01:36] i use it too [01:36] works? good? [01:37] yep [01:37] it's good stuff [01:37] great [01:37] thinking openvpn + samba file server [01:37] and since there are cross platform clients I can connect windows systems to my openvpn linux server too [01:38] but dont the windows work with vpn built in? [01:38] I don't know. I've only used the built in windows vpn client with windows vpn servers [01:38] ah ok [01:38] something to look at then [01:39] many deps for openvpn? [01:40] credo (n=cherchez@80.233.147.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:40] I'm pretty sure it's a stock package [01:40] ok [01:41] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn47.78-99-109.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [01:41] oops hhrm [01:41] wondered why it wasn't on sbo [01:41] There aren't rc scripts in place for it though since that depends on the type of vpn you want [01:41] right [01:42] ok time for some sleep I think [01:42] nn [01:42] what would be cool is a Slackware that is Turing-complete when you install it [01:45] jedinick (n=npscholz@c-71-238-138-204.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:46] Fenix-Dark (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [01:46] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "now that I have friend my brain I can no longer function" [01:46] IrquiM (n=irquim@176.80-202-41.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:46] notKlaat1 (n=klaatu@c-24-131-254-113.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[03:03] how to make kde in slackware 13 to use a printer? [03:04] i find nothing under System Settings [03:06] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [03:11] ok, i figured it out [03:11] configuring it fucking insane [03:12] what does the subject "Not Read:" , mean in thunderbird , well i have return receipt active , and i do get receipt when mail is read. [03:12] btw the body contained "Your message was deleted" [03:13] maybe it's for mails for which you want confirmation that the receiver has read the mail [03:15] RLa: but if the receiver has read the mail i should be getting "Read:" [03:15] hm [03:15] maybe a bug [03:16] padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.66.250) joined ##slackware. [03:16] RLa: its not a bug, but a receipt that i don't understand [03:17] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [03:18] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:19] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [03:23] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [03:23] Avalloc (n=_@port-93825.pppoe.wtnet.de) joined ##slackware. [03:24] firedix (n=firedix@host6.201-252-144.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [03:25] What library has libnssutil3.so.1d? [03:25] isntalled nss-3.12 and that wasn't it.. [03:25] now I'm just confused [03:26] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:26] Trying to run Google Chrome [03:26] from slackbuilds.org [03:26] darylc (n=darylc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:27] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-154.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:29] oh, didn't know there was chrome in slackbuilds [03:29] Action: briareus fires up sbopkg [03:30] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:30] thanks, redtricycle building it now [03:30] hope it works for you =P [03:30] I tihnk maybe it's b/c I'm on Slackware64 13.0 [03:31] mine coughed up an error about md5, but so far so good [03:32] redtricycle: seamonkey-solibs [03:33] darylc (n=darylc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) left irc: "Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi" [03:33] Urchlay: already installed [03:33] apparently chrome uses the mozilla libraries (wonder if it even contains its own rendering engine at all, or if it's just a different frontend for firebird/mozilla) [03:33] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:33] Insatled mozilla-nss, too [03:33] that wasn't it [03:33] Unless... [03:33] qudama (n=Imam@202.70.59.7) joined ##slackware. [03:33] well, see if you actually have libnssutil3.so at all. It may be in someplace like /usr/lib64/seamonkey-1.1.18 [03:33] I need to update soemthing after installing it? [03:33] I do, it's there [03:34] hwo do I make google chrome see it? [03:34] in which case you may need to update /etc/ld.so.conf (if it isn't already in there), and pass chrome's make/configure/whatever an option to make it looks there (maybe ./configure --with-nss-libs=/usr/lib64/seamonkey-1.1.18 or something) [03:35] I have no idea what kind of build script(s) chrome uses, you'll have to figure that part out [03:35] <[ briareus@slacktop ]> ~$ google-chrome [03:35] /usr/bin/google-chrome: error while loading shared libraries: libgconf-2.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [03:35] whoops [03:35] You need the requirements [03:35] check the README [03:36] yeah, I had assumed they made it contianed, getting it now [03:36] libgconf = not shipped with slackware [03:36] alfatau (n=alfatau@93-34-54-21.ip48.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [03:36] installing gconf now [03:36] hello, it's some days the kernel messages are like http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m10959af8. does anyone knows to what is it due? google unfortunately does not gives real answers. thanks for your attention. [03:37] hey derogatory|ploy [03:37] err Urchlay [03:37] Ah, I foudn the problem [03:37] hey, collaborates|flasher [03:37] In the buildscript, it creates a symlink to seamonkey [03:37] which...I dont have installed? I thought it ships with slack64 [03:37] alfatau: your URL is bad [03:37] redtricycle: It does. [03:38] ls /var/log/packages/seamonkey-* [03:38] /var/log/packages/seamonkey-1.1.17-x86_64-1 /var/log/packages/seamonkey-solibs-1.1.17-x86_64-1 [03:38] redtricycle: seamonkey is 2.0.x now [03:38] alfatau: never mind, it's fine, I copied the . at the end of the sentence too. Duhhh... [03:38] redtricycle: When did you last upgrade that system? :P [03:38] Ah. Broken sym link in /opt/google/chrome [03:38] fire|bird: I'm a vanilla 13.0 guy (security patches only) [03:38] did it update?... [03:38] o_o [03:39] redtricycle: yes, slack has 2.0, 1.1.x (certain versions, including slacks) had security issues against it. [03:39] alfatau: no idea what's causing your UDP errors, but buried in among all the UDP messages is something that might cause you alarm: [287854.104986] JBD: barrier-based sync failed on hda3:8 - disabling barriers [03:39] fzi (n=fzi@201.10.44.3) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:40] no idea what "barrier" means in that context, but it's something relating to a hard drive, which tends to make me sit up and take notice [03:40] What's the difference betwen libnssutil.so and libnssutil.so.ld? [03:40] .so.ld? [03:41] redtricycle: chrome has some odd symlinks, so really, nothing afaik. [03:41] Okay, I'll just update symlinks manually [03:42] Urchlay: uhm... [03:42] Urchlay: i'm taking a deeper look to that "barrier"... [03:43] redtricycle: chrome install and running [03:43] JBD sounds like "jbod" or "just a bunch of drives", a pseudo-raid layer... you using that? [03:43] briareus: slack64 13.0? [03:44] not 64 [03:44] =( [03:44] /usr/bin/google-chrome: /opt/google/chrome/libnss3.so.1d: version `NSS_3.12' not found (required by /usr/bin/google-chrome) [03:44] Okay...giving up [03:45] redtricycle: You made sure the slackbuild's arch was set for 64bit? [03:46] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:47] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:47] qudama (n=Imam@202.70.59.7) left irc: "Leaving." [03:51] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [03:54] fire|bird: yes, it's set [03:57] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Nick collision from services. 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[04:20] goarilla (n=goarilla@129.77-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [04:20] wow [04:21] my country looks like sweden all of the sudden [04:21] mohaa: faster? [04:21] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC3012D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Client Quit [04:22] i have never seen so much snow in my life [04:22] it's f*cking epic [04:22] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.77.86) left irc: Success [04:23] goarilla: I'm jealous [04:23] why i hate snow :D [04:23] goarilla: I'm in the desert. It's 58F here [04:23] I miss snow [04:23] i'm just hoping they declare the emergency situation [04:23] the month I moved from Denver we had 1m of snow in a single weekend, shut the city down. awesome. [04:23] then i dont have to go to work :D [04:23] briareus: you don't want to see Paris then, it's been under the snow since the beginning of the week ;p [04:24] yeah i'm in belgium [04:24] fucking epic [04:24] i'm gonna build a sled [04:24] and a whip [04:24] Camarade_Tux: I'm jealous of the Parisians who now have the opportunity to step through snow to slip on dogshit. [04:24] go to the dog pound and ask how much it is to hire 7 huskies [04:25] although I took the train on friday, took almost 4 hours instead of 2 hours... [04:25] briareus: I'll count the dogshits I see on tomorrow and will be happy to report how low it is [04:25] it's like in those movies [04:25] you see footsteps [04:26] and a few minutes later they have disappeared [04:26] that shit doesn't happen in belgium but now it does [04:26] goarilla: this is my Toyota 4Runner in Denver, 2003: http://titanomachy.net/sights/photos/Denver032003e.jpg [04:27] wow [04:27] http://titanomachy.net/sights/photos/Denver032003c.jpg [04:27] little bit more [04:27] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net" [04:27] the thing is [04:27] http://titanomachy.net/sights/photos/Denver032003b.jpg [04:27] this is the second day it snows [04:27] first day was thursdag [04:27] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [04:28] look at that table! That's almost 1m of snow on just that table [04:28] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:28] i wonder if we would ever get hit my 3 consecutive days [04:28] :D [04:28] if i would ever see that [04:29] think i would go back in bed to recatch my senses [04:30] know what we did? [04:30] drinking ? [04:30] humping ? [04:30] we put on skis and went to the liquor store--the only store in the area who was wise enough to have a generator--and the liqour store became a bar for the weekend [04:31] we met all of our neighbors there, people we would have not met otherwise [04:31] it was GREAT [04:31] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. 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[06:14] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host86-149-112-45.range86-149.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [06:15] songohan (n=songohan@135.210.67-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [06:15] hello, i have a display problem with openoffice [06:15] http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/533/openoffice31.jpg [06:16] What can i do ?? [06:16] Razec (i=1000@187-27-193-124.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:16] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:17] Raa (n=oli@86.127.238.96) left irc: Client Quit [06:18] no idea ? [06:18] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [06:19] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:19] songohan: it looks like problem with graphic card driver or some graphic libraries [06:20] you have lastest libpng, libjpeg etc ? [06:21] I have similar prolem, but in my case on some graphics can see copy of entire screen instead of graphic content [06:21] mac, my system is up to date [06:22] what`s before ? [06:22] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-80-29.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:22] how to know if i have the latest libpng and libjpeg ? [06:22] check its versions [06:22] :) [06:22] compare to slackware-current [06:23] libpng 1.2.37 [06:23] libjpeg-6b-i486-5 [06:24] hum, where can i see the latest version in current (i'm on slackware 13.0) [06:24] ? [06:26] in the past you could see at packages.slackware.it but for long time its down [06:27] you can simply connect to any of SLackware ftp`s and check [06:27] :> [06:27] slackbuilds.org is also helfull [06:27] but in little more extremal veriosn of help :) [06:35] goarilla (n=goarilla@129.77-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:36] RLa (n=rla@133.220.190.90.dyn.estpak.ee) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:37] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) joined ##slackware. [06:40] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [06:44] sirslacker (n=aligp@p579B5596.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving." [06:45] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:46] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [06:47] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d75-154-228-99.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. 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[07:52] hi there [07:53] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:54] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:55] ukh (n=ukh@brisbane.svansen.se) joined ##slackware. [07:58] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-224-86.dsl.scarlet.be) left irc: "Leaving" [07:59] dfrank (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) joined ##slackware. [08:00] dear All, i need to know what apps using internet connection, what addresses accessing every app, summary traffic for every app, etc.. Is this possible? [08:03] candinho (n=candinho@201-68-78-169.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:05] hi guys do u guys know how to make ventrilo works in wine? because i can hear,but cant talk [08:08] sounds like you are a mute [08:08] atleast you can type [08:09] but seriously winecfg should help you modify your audio settings [08:15] ty [08:15] rfdrew (n=rfdrew@55-57-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. [08:18] rfdrew (n=rfdrew@55-57-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: Client Quit [08:22] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [08:22] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.83.231) joined ##slackware. [08:25] candinho: Have you swung by AppDB yet ? There's often really good guides there [08:26] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:26] candinho: in any case: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9832 [08:26] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) joined ##slackware. [08:28] dfrank: There's a bunch of programs designed to do that. Slackware (normal/full installation) comes with one by default. 'iptraf' let's you see ongoing TCP connections and their bandwidth use as well as destination IP/PORT [08:28] Srbo (n=Srbo@109.93.46.96) joined ##slackware. [08:29] icarus_, thanks man [08:29] dfrank: although, it's not categorized into apps. Advanced traffic analysis can be done with 'wireshark'. 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[08:45] why in the heck did laptop manufacturers quit including a serial port on laptops, even desktops are starting to quit including serial ports [08:45] Nick change: pragma_ -> grapenuts [08:45] Err, because theres no reason to include it [08:45] Serial ports are large..very few people need them [08:45] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.45) left irc: [08:45] The people that DO need them can pick up a cheap USB->Serial controller [08:46] no bigger than the vga port they still include [08:46] More USB ports are more versatile than wasting the space of a serial port [08:46] Nick change: grapenuts -> pragma_ [08:46] Raa (n=oli@86.127.238.96) joined ##slackware. [08:46] Lots of laptops these days don't have the VGA port, either [08:47] Nick change: pragma_ -> OBVIOUSLYNOT [08:47] Nick change: OBVIOUSLYNOT -> pragma_ [08:47] padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.66.252) left irc: Success [08:51] alfatau (n=alfatau@93-34-54-21.ip48.fastwebnet.it) left irc: " HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it" [08:56] zentrycks (n=slackcor@a95-95-186-11.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:58] zentrycks (n=slackcor@a95-95-186-11.cpe.netcabo.pt) left ##slackware. [08:58] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:01] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-130-129-177.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [09:01] x-ip (n=sakura-s@200.117.181.181) joined ##slackware. [09:08] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@168-103-61-49.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [09:08] synfin (n=synfin@199.195.58.16) joined ##slackware. [09:15] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. 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[09:37] agentc0re: ping [09:39] UTC (ultimate typing championship), get into it folks ;) [09:40] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-224-86.dsl.scarlet.be) joined ##slackware. [09:40] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [09:42] Hi, what's a good channel on Freenode to ask help with GNU bison ? [09:43] kapu (n=kapu@cpe-24-29-46-139.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:43] kapu (n=kapu@cpe-24-29-46-139.nycap.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [09:45] see ya ;) [09:45] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-195-255.33-151.iol.it) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [09:48] kukukk (n=dvorak@188.24.65.220) joined ##slackware. [09:48] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:50] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.83.231) left irc: "leaving" [09:51] Axius (n=ade@92.82.68.22) joined ##slackware. [09:54] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [10:00] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. 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[10:59] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [11:01] anybody ever compile wine for slackware64 13? [11:02] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:02] Action: adamk_ raises his hand. [11:02] been having dependancy troubles [11:02] Odd_the_Cat (n=oddtheca@173-9-254-98-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:02] I'm guessing quite a few other people have, too. [11:02] OddtheCat (n=oddtheca@173-9-254-98-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [11:02] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [11:02] how do I set up freetype for compiling with wine [11:02] greetings [11:03] what options in the configure script would I need? [11:03] xovan: I didn't do anything special. I downloaded the slackbuild and built wine. I have no idea if that did or did not include special support for freetype, but I also don't much care :-) [11:03] ah so freetype isn't a big deal then I suppose. [11:04] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [11:04] I've never noticed any font issues, but I don't use wine for much beyond Filemaker Pro and a few lite games. [11:04] well I'm gonna try getting diablo II and D&D online running [11:05] i'm bored and need something to do on Sunday before I go to work on Monday [11:06] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Client Quit [11:11] InspectorCluseau (i=0@64.238.225.15) joined ##slackware. [11:11] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:13] im really confused about my issue with with OOo, wine and picasa font! as I know these all are using the gtk fonts, so pidgin too! but the issue is this, that menus and icon look like completely destroyed on those three but not on pidgin!! so I can't believe that this could be a gtk fonts issue! any idea what can cause this, that menus are not readable?? [11:18] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-091-096-089-151.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [11:20] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [11:21] sirslacker, is freetype installed? [11:25] |CtrlAltCa| (n=fabio@83.225.85.16) joined ##slackware. [11:26] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:26] Nick change: |CtrlAltCa| -> CtrlAltCa [11:27] xovan: I have freetype installed! [11:29] Anyone have any idea what OS-X like dock is used here http://scnd101.deviantart.com/art/Kanzi-Suite-144969682 ? [11:31] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.83.231) joined ##slackware. [11:32] did it ever work or did it break? [11:34] Action: icarus_ wishes he had some P4 Prescott's lying around to heat up the room [11:34] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:34] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.83.231) left irc: Client Quit [11:34] mancha: It had worked long time! I installed an old version of itunes, and wine crashed! I think after that, Its happened! [11:35] hehe icarus_ [11:35] ok then only thing you've done is install itunes (within wine) ? [11:35] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:35] this woud not mess up the ooo fonts so something else happened, think [11:36] think it has caused, maybe I installed qt at that time too! [11:36] The-Crou1ier (n=agapi@188.4.85.48.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:38] I read something on an ubuntu forum, they think it is gtk config issue! but it didn't help me much, to solve the issue! [11:38] sirslacker: I've had some issues with QT apps and bad fonts when running in gnome. On a Debian machine. [11:39] you mean it can be qt configuration, which caused this? [11:39] actually, it would appear I still do. I vaguely remember reading about it and how GTK/QT handle fonts differently. I beleive the blame was cast on GTK [11:40] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:40] believe*, anyway. I never got around to solving it. But I believe your search should be centered around how GTK/QT handle fonts. Because they do things differently and so if one thing is acting up, chances are it's because of this. [11:42] ok, it seems that this can be a good point of view! I will do so, hope I find out the cause! [11:44] Actually, just fixed my issue on the debian machine. What I did was open up qtconfig-qt4 and switch from the default "sans" font to "Liberation Sans". The font is *perfect* after that. Maybe you just need to create a GTKRC file which makes use of a different font ? [11:45] I read something like this on that ubuntu forum too! [11:49] sirslacker: you may also want to try this http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=62334 - seems Wine supports font smoothing [11:50] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:50] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [11:50] sirslacker: though, how that may end up applying to picasa exactly, I don't know. Depends on how gnome packaged the thing. If you can find the wine dir in picasa you can run the regedit command as described with WINEPREFIX pointing to that directory. But I wouldn't know whether they actually COMPILED picasa using wine or just packaged picasa with a bundled version of wine. Best bet might be to google specifically for font issues and picasa [11:55] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [11:55] i like that freenode tries to keep folks informed about issues/problems like that [11:56] icarus_: im trying now first qtconfig-qt4 idea! if it doesn't help than I will focus on this! anyway thank you for these! [11:57] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [11:59] Nick change: wertik_rus -> wertik|slp [12:00] does ooo still have a "Use system font for user interface" option? [12:00] tools->options or summit [12:02] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [12:02] The-Crou1ier (n=agapi@188.4.85.48.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:03] The-Croupier (n=agapi@188.4.85.48.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:05] linXea (n=slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:08] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. 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[12:16] another one bites the dust [12:16] good afternoon antiwire [12:16] yo [12:18] linXea (n=slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:18] http://www.dvwa.co.uk/download.php [12:18] lol [12:18] haha [12:18] sounds like my normal work [12:19] lol [12:19] hahaha [12:19] sirslacker (n=aligp@p579B5596.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:24] lol [12:24] Action: nachox chuckles at sirslacker [12:26] ***nachox?? [12:26] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [12:27] werent you just kicked by out cool bot that respects no root? [12:27] Nick change: ga_bash -> free_fox [12:27] he's not as much fun as aligp... [12:28] hhmmm, I was again logged in in my root account, to run qt configuration! [12:29] gnome's got a funky sploit...you use fubar logins from the screensaver 15 times and on the 16th you're in, no matter what pw you use :) [12:30] omg ,are you serious [12:30] or maybe it's 5 times, i forgetz [12:31] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=598476 [12:35] guys you can do some better things! tell me why the configuration changes on qt won't save?? [12:36] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:38] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.29.42) joined ##slackware. [12:40] ok, seeing as 3.0.16 just came out and the end of the year approaches, can we say this has been effectively eol'd? [12:40] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [12:40] ff, for the uninitiated... [12:42] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [12:42] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@83.225.85.16) joined ##slackware. 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[13:03] Baisuoklis: This is how fscked you are http://tinyurl.com/y973lnz [13:04] ananke: lol [13:04] tab FAIL [13:04] antiwire: :) [13:04] Avalloc (n=_@port-93825.pppoe.wtnet.de) left irc: Client Quit [13:06] TClayton (n=tony@unaffiliated/tclayton) joined ##slackware. [13:06] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:07] khaladu_kj (n=kiran@static-mum-59.181.128.74.mtnl.net.in) joined ##slackware. [13:07] check out this wipeout http://www.surfline.com/surflinetv/no-category/brook-phillips_39524 [13:07] holy crap. [13:09] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [13:11] antiwire: lucky guy [13:11] could have ended nasty [13:11] it always can end nasty [13:12] i've been slammed and cheese grated across the barnacles [13:12] Nick change: e01_ -> e01 [13:12] yeah. i prefer skydiving myself :) [13:13] 3 jumps so far :D [13:13] sweet [13:13] but already got hooked [13:13] no way back i guess now [13:13] Nikopol (i=nikopol@unaffiliated/nemesis128) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:14] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:14] I want to get certified for jumping too [13:14] whre you live antiwire ? [13:15] socal [13:15] hmmm. if wheater permits :) [13:16] this year season is over [13:16] Nikopol (i=nikopol@unaffiliated/nemesis128) joined ##slackware. [13:17] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [13:17] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:17] not here [13:17] good. take a shot at it then :) [13:18] khaladu_kj (n=kiran@static-mum-59.181.128.74.mtnl.net.in) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:18] I've done a few tandem jumps [13:18] they won't let us jump alone unless you enter the whole cert course [13:18] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.18.40) joined ##slackware. [13:19] I ate shit on this one. my dad managed to take a perfect snapshot http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/wipeout-surfers-knoll-marked.jpg [13:19] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.18.40) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:19] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:21] dfrank (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) joined ##slackware. [13:21] hmm. weird. i've always jumped alone. the first two jumps they pull a chute via cable attached to a line inside a plane. third one was on my own [13:21] antiwire: ouch! [13:22] elliot98 (n=elliot@bzq-79-181-115-219.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [13:23] hello All. I downloaded ICQ client climm package (tgz), installed it, and when i trying to run it, it tells that it needed "libotr.so.2" I trying to find it in google, but can't find :( where should i look for it and other libraries? Thank u [13:23] dfrank: Where did you find this climm package? [13:24] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:24] antiwire: www.climm.org, download, and then was been redirected on other site with different packages for different distros [13:24] dfrank: You need to use slackbuilds.org to build the dependency: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/libotr/ [13:25] dfrank: but slackware comes with pidgin which support ICQ as well as nearly every other IM protocol [13:25] mattallmill (n=mattallm@ip98-186-163-10.ks.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:25] oh imagine that...a linux packages package built on a non-clean system... [13:25] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-47.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:26] dfrank: stay away from packages posted at LP.net [13:26] agentc0re: ping [13:26] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [13:27] nille_ (i=1000@c-83-233-249-176.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:27] Sadnem (n=Sadnem@89.141.98.120.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [13:28] antiwire: thank u for link, will try to download it. Re. pidgin: i want console icq and jabber client. [13:28] antiwire: what is the LP.net? never used it [13:28] dfrank: pidgin includes finch [13:28] dfrank: dont [13:28] Zordrak: ... [13:29] dfrank: you didn't even look at the source site of the package you installed. [13:29] Zodrak: what "dont"? [13:29] that package you downloaded came from linuxpackages.net and the quality and sanity of packages posted here is not consistent at all., [13:29] here/there [13:30] teckan (n=teckan@p5B0CDA5B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:30] antiwire: ok, i understand about lp.net [13:30] prochlo (n=___@41.104.52.124) joined ##slackware. [13:31] Action: Zordrak slaps agentc0re upside the head [13:31] antiwire: but i thought that download package from its homepage is better way [13:31] OMG [13:31] Zordrak: ESAD! [13:31] [TurnUnlaggedOff (n=3wr@chello089072048128.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:31] dfrank: again...you did not download that package form the homepage of the project. [13:31] there y'are [13:31] seriously. [13:31] dfrank: you need to pay attention to the download links. [13:32] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.230.168) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:32] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:32] agentc0re: am i right in thinking you have a build for bacula 3? [13:32] go look at the climm homepage again and take a closer look at the link for the Slackware 12.0 package download.... [13:33] this is like the people who click on random shit which installs spyware and zombie tools into windows [13:33] antiwire: actually, yes, i downloaded it from LP.net, but i was been redirected from package homepage :) well, so: better way is download sources immediately from package homepage. Right? [13:33] better to just pay attention than create some new rule [13:35] agentc0re: it's Christmas again so i'm at my parents here and there and so finally getting around to sorting out their bacula issues [13:35] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:36] Installing packages built by people who have no track record or public history is not a good idea. slackbuilds.org is one solution to that issue. At SBo you download a build script and the source of the programs you are trying to build. The build scripts have been closely scrutinized by the time they are uploaded and all dependencies are listed. [13:37] insert relevant reference to sbopkg [13:38] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:38] You just experienced what happens when someone builds a package on a system which contains autodetected dependencies that you might not have. The package was built to expect libotr when libotr is most likely not a requirement but an optional dep that the builder had installed which ultimately creates a broken package for anyone without the optional dep of libotr installed. [13:40] agentc0re: ? [13:41] in addition to my problem with gtk font, I opened wine configurtion, with winecfg from terminal, it opened but it sent back: " err:menubuilder:init_xdg error looking up the desktop directory." and as it before I can read nothings! I checked qt configuration font, none of my changes - used gui -, can be saved! ( don't ask me why! I did this as root too! ) I checked wine regedit too, but it didn't take affect! so I believe this is a problem [13:42] synfin (n=synfin@199.195.58.16) left irc: "Leaving" [13:45] guys any help? im really confused! [13:46] mattallmill (n=mattallm@ip98-186-163-10.ks.ks.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:48] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: No route to host [13:48] sirslacker (n=aligp@p579B5596.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving." [13:48] sirslacker (n=aligp@p579B5596.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:50] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [13:52] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [13:54] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) left irc: "going going gone" [13:58] despiron (n=slackboy@187.64.16.183) joined ##slackware. [13:58] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [13:59] [1]prochlo (n=___@41.104.52.124) joined ##slackware. [13:59] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-147-60.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:00] Zordrak: yup i do [14:00] sorry in the middle of building a rodin coil [14:01] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl10-138-164.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:01] [2]prochlo (n=___@41.104.52.124) joined ##slackware. [14:02] balun? or unun? [14:02] your 'roids flaming back up? [14:02] impedence matching circuit thingy? [14:02] Axius (n=ade@92.84.11.22) joined ##slackware. [14:03] |CtrlAltCa| (n=fabio@83.225.76.237) joined ##slackware. [14:03] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:04] Nick change: |CtrlAltCa| -> CtrlAltCa [14:04] as i logged in as root, and it took only 10 sec until i closed irc, more than 4 ppl. criticized me! but as i asked question, no one had to say!!! funny guys in our Chanel!!! :-/ [14:04] antiwire: only cuz you didnt use lube last night....ass|hat! [14:04] sirslacker: Have you considered the possibility that many people in here use WINE and do not have the same issue you have? [14:04] agentc0re: lol [14:05] Pig_Pen: ya kinda [14:05] Axius (n=ade@92.84.11.22) left irc: Client Quit [14:05] Pig_Pen: http://bit.ly/6MwEER [14:06] i bet that is fun, the last time i built something like that my fingers were not to happy afterwards [14:06] antiwire: no! thank you for this hint! I won't forget it! [14:07] wound it by hand with some laquered electric motor wire [14:08] sirslacker: you! sure! like! the! bang! don't! you!?! [14:08] ya im winding this my hand and its a beast. but i think itll be a fun project [14:10] check out rodin math. its a interesting concept and what this coil is based off of. [14:10] antiwire: what do you want to say my friend, now? [14:11] sirslacker: stay away from him, hes my bottom bitch :P [14:13] bottom bitch ? What's the opposite ? [14:13] :-/ [14:14] its a southpark episode. butters becomes a pimp [14:14] southparkstudios.com [14:15] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-119-233.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:15] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [14:15] agentc0re: that coil is rad. how are you going to drive it? [14:15] doesn't it heat up? [14:15] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [14:16] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [14:16] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:16] http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7911972442098545165# Marko Rodin [14:16] prochlo (n=___@41.104.52.124) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:16] Nick change: [2]prochlo -> prochlo [14:16] with 110v from the wall :) [14:16] ah so you feed them AC [14:17] thats a long video! [14:17] 4 hours & 35 minutes [14:17] agentc0re: it's more than that. I've also seen a television series called "The Boondocks" in which another character (also a pimp) refers to his girl as his "bottom bitch". So that brings to question, what does it mean, exactly ;) [14:18] [1]prochlo (n=___@41.104.52.124) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:18] do you know what kind of device would allow me to control the hertz and voltage that i could supply to it? [14:18] Uncle Ruckus on Boondocks is funny! [14:18] agentc0re: a variac [14:18] hmm, i bet Nicola Tesa would know [14:19] Tesla [14:19] voltage would be no problem, it is the frequency that you want is what got me, something similar to a radio transeiver [14:22] some sort of signal generator power supply? [14:22] icarus: it means, that agentc0re save him for himself! [14:23] ukh (n=ukh@brisbane.svansen.se) left irc: "Leaving" [14:24] briancron (n=user@c-76-114-200-163.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:24] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-148-227.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:27] so again any idea, what can cause this? I can't read the menus on OOo, picasa and wine! and if its gtk font issue, why the pidgin hasn't the same problem? any guess, which can help me to find the solution? i thank you guys, in advanced! [14:28] sirslacker: did you install wine using SBo? [14:29] antiwire: I think so, but it had worked more than a year! [14:29] maybe cairo or pango, those are font related libraries for gtk based apps [14:29] ok can you stop with the ! [14:29] the SBo wine entry states "This requires fontforge and webcore-fonts." did you do that? [14:30] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.17.158) left irc: "Leaving" [14:30] yes [14:30] are you running current or 13 or what? [14:30] current! [14:31] Have you applied the most recent updates? [14:31] all things! [14:31] sirslacker: seriously, what the fuck is up with you and ! [14:31] do you realize that to people who actually understand the proper usage of "!", you are yelling every sentence? [14:32] I don't know, I installed an old version of itunes on wine! and after that I the menus look like this http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/download/file.php?id=2193&sid=fd3d1f6d0f744a75f8577289287e6ba3&mode=view [14:32] ignored. [14:32] I know! I don't you "." [14:33] two quick questions: 1. what is the memory ceiling of 32 bit linux as it relates to slack 13? and 2. is there a README regarding kde 3.5.10 for slack13 and where? [14:33] yesyes (n=yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) joined ##slackware. [14:33] *use [14:33] men use ratpoison [14:34] nyRednek: i would imagine the memory limits has to do with the kernel, i think it is 4 gigs for 32 bit and quite a bit higher for 64 bit [14:34] egregor: go have a wank [14:35] Pig_Pen: i know you can raise the memory ceiling by patching the kernel...i was referring to the default installed kernel...at one point, i thought it was 1 or 2 gb [14:35] nyRednek: i rolled my own qt338 & kde-3.5.10 for slack-13 (32 bit) [14:36] i think 4 gigs is it for 32 bit slackware [14:37] Pig_Pen: ok [14:37] my bad, you can do 64 gigs ram [14:37] for 32 bit, i just looked [14:38] this thing is looking very cool so far. [14:39] what are you building agentc0re ? [14:39] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:39] elliot98 (n=elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [14:40] rodin coil [14:40] you want varible frequency oscillation in a current running though something with that rodin coil, other than that i am in the dark [14:40] InspectorCluseau (i=0@64.238.225.15) left irc: [14:41] dear All. I have built package, after 30 min i understood that i need one additionally option. Now i need to "make uninstall", and after it ./configure --options && make && make install. Right? Or there's any easier way? [14:42] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [14:43] maybe check for a slackbuild and if you can use DESTDIR or similar so you can make a package out of it (easier to manage that way) [14:43] I already showed him SBo [14:43] It's a lost cause [14:45] yeah, he needs to figure out if you dont make a packages out of whatever your building there wont be any way to manage it when it comes time to remove it cleanly [14:46] corretico__ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:47] Pig_Pen: looks like i'll be installing the kde3.5 for slack13(under /unsupported) and then the qt4 via the slackbuild in SBo's 12.2 repo [14:47] Pig_Pen: i still need qt4, but hate it when one of my users loads into kde4 [14:48] cbpye (n=cbpye@h152.109.90.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:48] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@83.225.68.39) joined ##slackware. [14:48] i am sure there is something quick and dirty that you can do to prevent anyone from logging in to kde4 without actually removeing any kde4 packages, [14:49] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [14:50] Axius (n=ade@92.84.11.22) joined ##slackware. [14:50] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [14:51] what about kde4's startkde file? run chmod -x on it, hopefully nobody can log in to kde4 and you can still have kde4 installed [14:53] Pig_Pen: i could do that, but i don't necessarily want to keep them from running kde, just kde4 [14:53] Pig_Pen: i technically could remove kde and not qt [14:53] Pig_Pen: but i'd rather go about it this way [14:53] Pig_Pen: also, my girls use gnome(installing gsb on their netbooks) [14:53] ya even doing a, ./configure --prefix=/usr; make && make install DESTDIR=./tmp;cd ./tmp; makepkg -l y -c y pkgname.txz [14:53] djustice (n=kde@75-136-155-254.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:58] i almost bought a brand new laptop yesterday but i backed out of the deal when i realised you can not buy em with serial ports anymore [14:59] Pig_Pen, yeah i know, it's depressing [15:00] i want the serial port for a SDR i just bought [15:00] nyRednek, gsb? [15:00] hiptobecubic: gnome for slackware [15:00] Pig_Pen, you can get some ugly adapters. What's an SDR? [15:00] Pig_Pen: Dell Latitude D series 620 and 820 have real serial com ports [15:00] deco, which one is gsb? [15:00] hiptobecubic: gnome slackbuild [15:01] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_defined_radio = SDR [15:01] nyRednek, oh. ok thans [15:01] hiptobecubic: but personally, i've found dropline gnome to work better [15:01] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:01] hmm, dell latitude D 620 & 820, i gotta look in to that [15:02] Pig_Pen, nice [15:02] Pig_Pen: you can get them with core duo or core 2 duo cpus and the choice of nvidia or intel graphics [15:03] I have a D620 and the only part on it that doesn't work completely is the dial up modem [15:03] not a big deal though really [15:03] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-147-60.broadband.corbina.ru) left ##slackware ("#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)"). [15:03] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-241.maine.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [15:03] other than needing to purchase the driver from linuxant for the modem, literally everything else works [15:04] And if you really needed a modem just go pcard [15:04] pccard or usb [15:04] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-241.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:04] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:05] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:08] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.75.115) joined ##slackware. [15:10] Srbo (n=Srbo@109.93.46.96) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:13] i was at the local Staples store yesterday and went in to look at the lappys and none of them had serial ports, and the guy in charge of the laptops said they dont make em anymore, and he suggested i get one of those usb adapters for an extra 50 bucks, i think he just wanted to sell me a laptop regardless if i wanted it or not, i was reading on a forum where the topic is SDR radio and those usb/serial adapter are aweful they say, so i figure if i am goi [15:14] Pig_Pen: SDR radio? [15:14] yup [15:14] Pig_Pen: unfamiliar with the term [15:15] it is basically a black box with an on/off switch and all the radio controls are in software via serial port cable [15:15] Pig_Pen: ah... [15:17] Pig_Pen: looks like the newer ones have usb ports [15:17] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:17] amaranthine (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:17] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:18] Nick change: amaranthine -> fire|bird [15:18] the new ones do, i bought this one on clearence sale [15:20] Pig_Pen: ah... [15:20] Pig_Pen: have you ever played with the ham ip system? [15:21] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:21] some are firewire [15:21] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [15:21] a few years ago this radio would sell for about 400 to 500 bucks, i latched on to it for 200 [15:22] Pig_Pen: you running a lappy? [15:22] Pig_Pen: or are you running a desktop/tower? [15:22] the laptop i had recently died, harddrive failure, it was ancient junk [15:22] i have two desktops, both have serial ports [15:25] jomo (n=mich@p3EE21FCB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [15:25] prochlo (n=___@41.104.52.124) left irc: " HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- s0 d4Mn l33t |t'z 5c4rY!" [15:26] Axius (n=ade@92.84.11.22) left irc: "Leaving" [15:26] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-148-227.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [15:27] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-178-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:29] yesyes_ (n=yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) joined ##slackware. [15:32] jomo (n=mich@p3EE21FCB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left ##slackware. [15:34] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Success [15:35] swedala (n=swedala@1-1-2-30a.gsn.gbg.bostream.se) joined ##slackware. [15:37] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:37] my armpits are telling me to take a shower [15:37] yup, I can smell it from here -_- [15:38] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:40] Pig_Pen, you just realized? [15:42] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [15:42] now if you only douched yourself a few times, the world would be a better palace [15:42] place [15:44] briancron (n=user@c-76-114-200-163.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Success [15:44] dear All. I trying to compile climm with --enable-xmpp option, and ./configure --enable-xmpp returns "cannot find XMPP library libiksemel". Where can I get it? none on Slackbuilds.org :( [15:45] yesyes (n=yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:45] Nick change: yesyes_ -> yesyes [15:46] Is there such a thing as a BASH IDE ? Something with intellisense, something where you can define code snippets etc. [15:47] y [15:47] oops [15:47] had cursor over wrong window [15:48] http://iksemel.jabberstudio.org/ [15:49] greetings [15:49] mancha: whatever it is, link seems to be unavailable atm (for me at least) [15:49] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.218.185.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:49] mancha: pity but for me link is unavailable too :( [15:50] http://code.google.com/p/iksemel/ [15:51] pixU (n=aaron@84.123.245.225.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:51] if you get it compiled all nice you can submit to SBo [15:51] mancha: thank u! how did u find it? [15:52] i've got mad skillz [15:52] mancha: i trying google and yandex - fail [15:55] rapid_ (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [15:55] j0fh (n=ga9@161-241-178-94.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. [15:56] dfrank, good news, it compiled without issues here... [15:57] and the makefile respects DESTDIR so a slackbuilds will be easy-peasy to make [15:58] mancha: hm.. it successfully configured and compiled, but when i trying to start it, it tells "error while loading shared libraries: libiksemel.so.3", but it is in /usr/local/lib/libiksemel.so.3 [15:58] did you make sure your libs are updated? [15:59] i.e ldconfig ? [15:59] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-167-185.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:00] mancha: sorry, i didn't know about ldconfig! it starts!!! thank you, a great guru [16:00] Action: mancha bows [16:00] enjoy it :) [16:01] mancha: haha. after start, it tells "segmenting error" and stops. It was been too early to going glad [16:01] what is it that segfaults? climm? [16:01] mancha: climm [16:02] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-165-100.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:02] can you post the segfault error? [16:03] did someone in here seriously ask for a bash IDE with " [16:03] mancha: climm[933]: segfault at 323232 ip 00323232 sp bf8d878c error 4 in climm[8048000+71000] [16:03] intellisense"? [16:03] there ain't one. Hint: "intellisense" is a registered trademark of Microsoft [16:05] Pig_Pen, antiwire: http://imagebin.org/76277 (or anyone else that wants to see the half built rodin coil). [16:05] dfrank, hrmm, i don't know what's wrong, i'd have to get into it in more detail with you to debug and i don;'t have time [16:05] AEnima15771 (n=clbarnob@h80ad2770.async.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [16:06] mancha: ok, thank you for help. will try to solve it :) or install another client, but i don't very want to do this [16:06] madbear_ (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [16:06] Urchlay: Might be, but the term is still thrown around a lot [16:06] 0.4.10.3 right? [16:06] have you considered centerim? [16:06] Anyway. Doesn't matter. My bash editor of choice will be (g)Vim + bash support plugin it seems [16:06] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:07] er,0.6.4 i guess... [16:08] Do you guys think it's possible to export ENV variables in the .xinitrc file ? I'd really like to set the GTK theme there [16:10] agentc0re: is that a ferrite torrid [16:12] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:12] sirslacker (n=aligp@p579B5596.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving." [16:13] im not completely up with all these terms yet.. Ferrite meaning magnetic, yes and i think it's classified as a torrid. [16:13] pixU (n=aaron@84.123.245.225.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Success [16:14] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.7) joined ##slackware. [16:15] yeah, iron ferrite is that material used in lots of stuff, even those internal AM radio antennas are made from a rod of iron ferrite with wire wrapped around them, and lots of filtering and impedence matching is done with ferrite torrids [16:15] icarus_: vim with bash plugin is a good choice [16:15] Action: Urchlay uses it, anyway [16:15] and yeah, you can stick "export WHATEVER=whatever" in .xinitrc [16:17] hey brilliantly|overshadowed [16:17] err Urchlay [16:17] hey, exerciser|hungry [16:17] errr, you know [16:17] Urchlay: bash plugin == bash syntax highlighting? [16:18] SiegeX: yah [16:18] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.129.203) joined ##slackware. [16:18] and tab completion set so it completes words in the file you're editing (so you type a variable name out the first time, and you can complete it next time) [16:20] damned if I remember how to set that up (or maybe it's on by default in vim 7.x, I've been porting the same .vimrc to new bash versions since vim 5.x) [16:21] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:21] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn47.78-99-109.t-com.sk) left ##slackware ("good night"). [16:21] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:23] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:27] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [16:28] pikA (n=aaron@84.123.245.225.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [16:29] mancha: just for info: hm, sometimes all ok, but sometimes segfault. I wrote letter to developers. [16:29] bye all [16:29] dfrank (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) left irc: Client Quit [16:30] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.43.223) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:30] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.56.208.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [16:31] chipster_ (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [16:32] dimon (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) joined ##slackware. [16:32] Nick change: dimon -> dfrank [16:34] one more question: i see permanent traffic (by KDE widget), and i don't like it. How can i know, what applicatin downloads (uploads) anything? Maybe this is trojan? :( [16:35] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:35] one more question: i see permanent traffic (by KDE widget), and i don't like it. How can i know, what applicatin downloads (uploads) anything? Maybe this is trojan? :( [16:36] dfrank: netstat and/or tcpdump are good for that.... or wireshark, if you want a GUI [16:37] abnorma| (n=adasdada@79-175-79-68.adsl-a-1.sezampro.yu) joined ##slackware. [16:38] hi [16:38] need help for wicd [16:38] how to change the runlevel for wicd ? [16:38] ?!? [16:38] got problem with dbus [16:38] "change runlevel for wicd" makes no sense [16:38] you can change runlevel for the system [16:39] hmm [16:39] but you want wicd to start at another runlevel too? [16:39] how to get wicd to find dbus ? [16:39] Urchlay: netstat shows many connections, but it didn't tell me what speed or size app downloaded [16:39] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.218.185.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:39] start dbus? [16:39] how LOL [16:40] I'm new in this ... [16:40] chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.messagebus [16:40] then /etc/rc.d/rc.messagebus start [16:40] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.218.185.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:40] and then you read slackbook.org to get a clear system overview [16:40] lol [16:41] still cannot connect to wicd dbus [16:41] lol [16:41] what are you typing to get wicd up and running? [16:41] try to run it from KDE [16:42] wicd-client? [16:42] yup [16:42] so you didnt chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd ? [16:42] and add yourself to the netdev group [16:42] no [16:42] just install it from extras [16:42] and /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd start [16:42] >_< [16:43] :) [16:43] you need to start reading the manual :P [16:43] well its about time [16:43] :))) [16:43] there is actually a README file in that directory [16:43] uhm, do you know what you are supposed to do with those? [16:43] Action: macavity giggles [16:44] haha [16:44] :) [16:44] abnorma|: you sure live up to your nick :) [16:44] :P [16:44] well [16:44] sometimes [16:44] hahaha [16:44] lol [16:45] deco: actually not.. most people who come here havent bothered to read the manual [16:45] it's been a while i have used slack on desktop [16:45] j0fh (n=ga9@161-241-178-94.pool.ukrtel.net) left ##slackware ("#HQ;."). [16:45] macavity: heh true :p [16:45] abnorma|: there have been some pretty big changes since 10.x and up to now.. especially in how things like this work [16:45] has anyoneu sed nginx ? [16:45] used [16:45] with php [16:46] well i see that now [16:47] thank you [16:47] and c ya [16:47] abnorma|: with hal/dbus, xorg.conf-less X, new group scheme and a plathora of new packages, you can pretty much throw out everythign eyou know [16:47] abnorma|: except how pkgtools work ;-) [16:48] lol [16:48] so i have to kill my self [16:48] :)))))) [16:48] gtg [16:48] c ya [16:48] l8r [16:48] abnorma| (n=adasdada@79-175-79-68.adsl-a-1.sezampro.yu) left irc: "Leaving" [16:48] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC3012D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [16:51] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.56.208.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:52] Srbo (n=Srbo@109.93.46.96) joined ##slackware. [16:53] Question: i try to unmount ssh dir, it tells "device busy". Then i type "lsof ~/mnt", it returns process PID, but when i type "ps -all" there's no same PID! [16:54] how can i get list of absolutelly all processes? [16:55] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: "just to eat" [16:56] ps aux [16:56] ps aux should be enough [16:56] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [16:59] dfrank: try fuser -mv /mnt [16:59] then u might get info [17:01] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-254.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:02] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phNSBlFq_JA [17:03] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:03] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:04] how do I make dhcpcd automatically populate /etc/resolv.conf to use the google nameservers? (8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4) [17:04] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-47.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [17:05] AEnima15771 (n=clbarnob@h80ad2770.async.vt.edu) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:05] redtricycle: no idea but, why don't you put them there and tell dhcpcd _not_ to overwrite the file? [17:08] EricTheHax (i=Angel@adsl-098-068-036-231.sip.bna.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:09] are there repos for slackware, by any chance? [17:09] w8 lemme check if its got apt [17:10] damn [17:10] EricTheHax: welcome to slackware, i think you're looking for a debian-based distribution [17:10] dfrank: I'm not sure, but I think ps only lists your own processes or something, unless you're root ? [17:10] rg3: harsh :P [17:10] dfrank (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:11] No Im not looking for a debian-based. im lookin to move out of debian-based and onto a faster, lighter, less-crappy linux, so i decided on slackware :P [17:12] fluxbox feels so good :P [17:12] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:12] :\ [17:12] EricTheHax: there's not *really* repo's, slackware does things somewhat differently. You *can* hook up to the offical repos if you setup and install a tool like "slackpkg". Though, if you did a full installation it wouldn't accomplish much (UNLESS you wanted to use it to keep up with slackware current!)... For anything else. There's slackbuilds.org. Simply put, slackbuilds are bash scripts that you download and execute, they build a package which you ca [17:12] flux is also in debian [17:12] ok and [17:13] slackware is less-microsoft-like. ubuntu effed up [17:13] slackware doesnt have apt, read the slackware book. there is a link to it in the lack official page [17:13] , talking about slackbuilds, you may want to take a look at http://www.sbopkg.org/ [17:14] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [17:14] oh and.. Have fun! Slackware is really quite cool if you're into something different from Ubuntu & friends [17:15] indeed [17:15] i remember when slackware gave me a hard time LOL. i was so young and dumb [17:16] damn, function generators are expensive. [17:17] function generators? what are they and what are they for? [17:17] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [17:17] sounds like software 2 me :\ [17:18] also another think bout slack i luv is i am root. no moar sudo. [17:18] *thing [17:18] If you run your entire desktop as root, then you're being really *really* unwise. [17:19] you could have had root any time in either debian or ubuntu [17:19] dont you have root in debian, too... [17:20] so lemme guess i should be adding a user and installing sudo? [17:20] and, btw, in my opinion, debian is quite fast [17:20] i think what the ubuntu devel did is a good thing and offers greater security [17:20] you should, yes [17:21] smica (n=smica@h128-254.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: "Távozom" [17:21] k. uhhh kde vs xfce? cause i think maybe i should switch to one [17:22] cause although flux looks so good im having issues [17:22] with navigation [17:22] screw it ill just go kde for the hell of it [17:23] EricTheHax (i=Angel@adsl-098-068-036-231.sip.bna.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:23] kde in slackware 13 is not that recent [17:23] it is 4.2 [17:23] some people were whining about this [17:25] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Client Quit [17:26] syn2fin (n=ichigo@c-76-104-20-48.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:27] Srbo (n=Srbo@109.93.46.96) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:27] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-63-83-200.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [17:28] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-63-83-200.cm.vtr.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:28] ohdannyboy (n=dan@pool-96-254-20-102.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:32] The KDE in 13 has issues, I'd really recommend going to current if you want to use KDE. [17:33] Then again, I wouldn't really recommend using -current. [17:33] or if you want the 3.5 series of KDE on slackware 13 -- it is in /unsupported [17:34] TheTrash: why not? It's stable. [17:34] Action: StevenR_ has been running -current for *years* [17:35] The same one? :) [17:35] Well, I'm running it myself on some machines, but it's not something for newbies IMO. [17:36] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [17:36] TheTrash: I pull it into sync on average once/week [17:37] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.129.203) left irc: "Leaving." [17:38] The *case* is 12 years old. I think the floppy drive is also the original one. Everything else has been upgraded at least once. [17:39] dammit. I feel old now. My main computer is older than 1/7 of the students at work. erp. [17:40] 1/7? Hm that's not so bad. [17:41] it'll increase by 1/7 eveyr year, of course. [17:41] Unless you buy something new :) [17:41] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:41] I've been thinkig about the upgrade path too...at some point, you need a evolutionary jump [17:41] o_o [17:41] and that costs more $$ [17:42] I buy some bottom-market new stuff every 3 years or so. [17:42] sirslacker (n=aligp@p579B5596.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:42] Since Slackware doesn't tax it _that_ much, I tend to use my machines for quite some time. [17:42] This one's an AMD64 3000+ [17:42] TheTrash: I don't see the need to buy a new one. [17:42] Been using it for 3 years or so, I guess. [17:42] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:42] It got some more ram last year. [17:43] RAM is nice. [17:43] 2GB in this machine now. [17:43] Would like more but it's DDR1. [17:43] i'm a firm beliver of shelling out bigtime... with as far intevals as possible :P [17:43] 1.5GB in this one (see, it's that long since I worried about this box that I had to go ask free -mt about it first) [17:44] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.7) left irc: [17:44] StevenR_: hah, that's what I had to do. But I did add a GB not that long ago. [17:44] this laptop is two and a half years old, and comparable models (CPU and RAM wise) are still at 75% of what i gave for this one.. though they have 5-7x as big HDDs now [17:44] And HDs are easy and cheap to replace. [17:45] I don't have much use for laptops, though. [17:47] syn2fin (n=ichigo@c-76-104-20-48.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:47] I have a few, but they're quite old and non-special, they're mostly tools for me. [17:50] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [17:51] pikA (n=aaron@84.123.245.225.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:52] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:52] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:55] Nick change: madbear_ -> madbear [17:57] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [18:00] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: "leaving" [18:01] Sadnem (n=Sadnem@89.141.98.120.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Saliendo" [18:03] EricTheHax (i=Angel@adsl-098-068-036-231.sip.bna.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:03] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:03] ..... i cant get sbopkg to install :\ [18:04] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:04] any detail? [18:06] hiya Camarade_Tux ;) [18:06] well it said it couldnt find the file etc/sbopkg/sbopkg.conf.new so i checked and found it was pointing in the wrong place it seems so i told it ../etc/ need not be repeated [18:07] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:08] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.75.188) joined ##slackware. [18:10] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:14] yoyo The-Croupier, how's it going? [18:15] EricTheHax: wut? what said that? and what was the exact error message? [18:21] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:22] doinst.sh and the error message was mv: cannot stat `etc/sbopkg/sbopkg.conf.new': No such file or directory [18:24] point is if i fix the error and make it work itll say command not found when i try the command, meaning it didnt install [18:25] # sbopkg [18:25] bash: sbopkg: command not found [18:25] how did you try to install the package? [18:25] doinst.sh [18:26] didn't use installpkg? [18:26] its in the install directory of the package [18:26] ??? [18:26] installpkg? grrrrrrrrrr [18:26] doh! [18:26] and i thought it would be harder than that >_> [18:26] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [18:27] just "installpkg something-1.2.3.tgz" [18:27] Action: EricTheHax starts LOL'ing [18:29] Camarade_Tux: im not bad just missing not being enough around in the channel ;) [18:31] hows things around here .... [18:34] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [18:35] EricTheHax: u should use installpkg .tgz [18:35] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:35] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [18:36] heh. backlog fail :D [18:36] yeah kinda figured that out once someone said installpkg [18:36] :) [18:37] damn i need some sort of autoscroll function in kvirc or limit the backlog to 3 lines or something [18:38] Hoogin (n=hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left irc: "Leaving." [18:38] The-Croupier: he, drop everything and spend your life in the channel! :P [18:38] Baisuoklis: =) [18:38] ya know i once got yelled at in school talking about making my own ascii gui for old 486's. question: is it supposed to be pronounced assy or asky? [18:39] i never went on with making it tho :\ [18:39] askee I think [18:39] eh, normally you say "askee" [18:39] or a-ski (like in skiing) [18:39] theres my problem then [18:39] I once got in trouble in school for writing a program that contained the phrase "Insert dick in Drive A:" [18:39] (I *swear* it was a typo!) [18:40] Urchlay: hehe :P [18:40] Camarade_Tux: nahhh to difficult to do that ... [18:40] have to work.. my family is depending on me ;) [18:40] i pronounced it like it was spelled (damn english) also ive seen floppies filled with blood and semen from typos like that [18:41] usually blood but some ppl have small dicks i guess [18:41] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:41] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:43] briareus (n=briareus@ip24-251-35-116.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:43] bad irc channel [18:43] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [18:43] Urchlay: try :P [18:44] s/Urchaly/The-Croupier/ >< [18:44] I think I should go to bed [18:44] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [18:44] yeah i'm with pi31415, what's this nonsense? [18:44] typos? [18:44] netsplit? [18:44] eww [18:44] oh [18:45] there was a neat trick you could do with a floppy drive, something like... grind up a bunch of match heads, glue the powder to the disk surface. Someone inserts in drive and *bang* [18:46] germanic language that lost many of its germanic words to replace them with latin and uses latin characters for string values and arabic characters for numeric values: what language is this? [18:46] what's the best way to remove apps installed by slackbuild? [18:46] EricTheHax: english? [18:46] ding ding ding [18:47] man removepkg [18:47] thanks [18:47] english is currently a bastard among languages [18:47] (I didn't know removepkg could 'see' slackbuild apps, thanks!) [18:47] what's a slackbuilds app? :) [18:47] I'm removing virtualbox-ose [18:47] EricTheHax: do you speak bastard? why, yes i do ;) [18:48] removepkg can nuke anything installed with installpkg orupgradepkg [18:48] lol [18:48] *or upgradepkg [18:48] we're bastards we killed kenny [18:48] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.157.60) joined ##slackware. [18:48] we KILLED KENNY, therefore we speak the bastard language :P [18:49] mancha: removepkg doesn't look to have a search function. How can I best search for installed packages? [18:49] they're all in /var/log/packages [18:49] (so I know i am removing all of what I need to remove) [18:49] ok [18:49] thanks again [18:50] np [18:50] EricTheHax: spain had a king in the 15th century that had a lisp; since the 'king's spanish' was the correct way to pronounce word the spanish language was changes to be correct ;/ [18:50] lisp? [18:51] isp n 1: a speech defect that involves pronouncing s like voiceless th and z like voiced th [18:51] a lithp? [18:51] EricTheHax: google 'def: lisp' [18:52] damn i can't get that x-authentification warning go away in my outgoing mails [18:52] Urchlay: oops, your spelling is correct ;) [18:52] i'm already in the trusted users file [18:52] stop messing with the from header then [18:52] lol i did but i realized i was using the wrong bar when it didnt recognize the protocol "define" [18:52] my spanish teacher in high school told me there are some places in spain where they thtill talk with a lithp, but he never said why [18:52] lol [18:52] alphad (n=alphad@41.207.31.108) joined ##slackware. [18:52] or learn how to use sendmail. your choice really :) [18:53] "hablo ethpañol" [18:53] no hablo ingleth [18:53] Urchlay: hehe, maybe a lisp in spanish is diff than in english [18:53] mancha: so its not allowed to ask for help? i'm already trying hard with that here. not everybody has username=email addr. [18:54] xteg, you can ask for help, i was just being funny, or trying to be [18:54] titopoquito (n=tito@p508EBEEB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:54] gnubien: he pronounced words with a lisp, but much less of a lisp than someone with a real speech impediment [18:54] but since you're gonna be a whiny bitch about it, count me out! :P [18:55] Urchlay: maybe it was some other speach impediment other than a lisp [18:55] no its just sometime i don't get what is funny or not, since english is not my mother language. sorry [18:55] gnubien: nah, he could turn it on & off at will [18:55] would it be too obviously not a typo to say stick penis in drive A:? [18:55] LOL [18:56] EricTheHax: depends on whether its a floopy or hard drive ;) [18:56] EricTheHax: that same teacher once wrote on the board, "The pen is mightier than the sword", only without the space before "is"... to illustrate the point that spacing is important, I guess [18:56] lolol [18:56] i have FEATURE(`use_ct_file') enabled, my id is in the trusted file...i don't get it [18:56] agentc0re: you'll kill us all!! omgz [18:56] problem is i messed my old sendmail.cf during new box installation [18:57] sirslacker (n=aligp@p579B5596.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:57] cteg, it's ok, i'm just being silly. i have to run, if you haven't figured it out before i come back i'll lend a hand. [18:58] don't worry, don't hurry, i'll get a smoke first ;) [18:58] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [18:58] EricTheHax (i=Angel@adsl-098-068-036-231.sip.bna.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:58] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:59] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [18:59] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.153.212) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:00] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [19:11] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [19:13] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:14] Urchlay: the lisp thing is an urban legend [19:14] the king i mean [19:17] masterx831 (n=masterx8@28.178.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:17] hello all [19:21] Wednesday is my Friday this week. [19:21] Stoked. [19:21] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_Man [19:22] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:22] santa clause knows whos been naughty or nice [19:22] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:23] I'll just renice santa until he can't even execute. [19:23] o-0 what about your toys!? [19:24] My cpu is a neutral net processor, a learning computer. I needs no toys. [19:24] btw I went and checked out the prices of normal DDR400 ram....out of hand. [19:24] that sounds dangerously close to skynet [19:25] 80 bucks for 2GB [19:25] ram is getting expensive right now [19:25] ram got much more expensive since september [19:25] the newer the stuff the cheaper though [19:25] DDR is more expesnive than DDR2 [19:25] I'm waiting for it to drop before I buy more [19:25] antiwire: and DDR3 is more expensive than DDR2 ;-) [19:25] they start slowing the fab process and the price goes nuts [19:26] yup [19:26] it's starts high, lowers, and finally skyrockets [19:26] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [19:26] to the benefit of newegg right? [19:26] I troll craigslist for ram but everyone in this area already does that too [19:26] hmmm, how can I make my dmesg longer? [19:27] s/it's/it/ [19:27] Camarade_Tux: that's the kernel settins [19:27] and I'm in Europe, prices are high here too [19:27] one sec I know the config entry [19:27] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: "Xmas reinstall \o/" [19:27] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [19:28] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [19:28] or kernel log buffer? [19:28] ring buffer iirc [19:28] yup, ok, thanks, I didn't know what it was [19:28] CONFIG_LOG_BUF_SHIFT [19:28] CONFIG_LOG_BUF_SHIFT [19:28] he :p [19:28] ;) [19:28] [19:29] made it 2MB, hope it's enough [19:29] make it 4MB, and higher values aren't accepted [19:29] sirslacker (n=aligp@p579B5596.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [19:30] send them an email asking for the ability to specify a disk path [19:30] hahah [19:30] i've been watching code compile all day [19:31] how about you guys [19:31] reboot =) [19:31] been eating ice cream [19:31] and crying [19:31] I went to Fry's and then to the brew house [19:31] awesome [19:31] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:32] first I had to compile wine which took forever, then I had to compile mono [19:33] all to get a friggin game working [19:33] xovan: which game ? [19:33] Dungeons and Dragons Online [19:33] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-122-11-189.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:34] the only compiles I started today were kernel builds and one qemu-kvm build after a kernel build [19:34] sirslacker (n=aligp@p579B5596.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving." [19:34] sirslacker (n=aligp@p579B5596.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [19:34] I wish it was a kernel would take no time at all. [19:34] bbl [19:34] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:34] sirslacker (n=aligp@p579B5596.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:34] sirslacker (n=aligp@p579B5596.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [19:35] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [19:35] I feel like mono is a trap [19:35] mako (n=mako@81.22.24.96) joined ##slackware. [19:36] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.22.28) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:36] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNLuq0lW50k [19:36] Microsoft is going to wait until it gets entrenched like it's doing in Gnome and then throw some patent law at everyone [19:36] seriously watch thaqt [19:36] that's just fud [19:37] antiwire: i hate watching the shooting scene from godfather , makes me sad :( [19:37] no. srsly [19:37] good night everyone [19:38] http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/7351/admiralackbar2jl1.jpg [19:38] indeed he does [19:41] x-ip (n=sakura-s@200.117.181.181) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:41] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host181.200-117-181.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:41] ms already accused linux in general of patent infringement of over 200 patents without specifying anything, (sounds like fud but considering things like mono and fat and ntfs support and gnome and miguel de izaca or whatever his name is who knows for sure nowadays [19:41] icaza [19:42] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:44] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@168-103-61-49.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:44] http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2009/jul09/07-20linuxqa.mspx [19:44] -_- [19:45] not bad [19:45] but old news [19:45] EricTheHax (i=Angel@adsl-098-068-036-231.sip.bna.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:45] I mean, it's cool and all but...IT'S A TRAP! [19:45] :o [19:46] GOOD NEWS: I got my sudo going and i also got the nvidia driver working and desktop effects and its still fast :P [19:47] congrats [19:47] i luv slackware [19:47] Rad [19:48] I know how much you like slackware, so i installed slack...on slack...so you can slack while you slack http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/slackonslack1.png [19:48] "There be sober men a'plenty, and drunkards barely twenty; there are men [19:48] of over ninety who have never yet kissed a girl. But give me the rambling [19:48] rover, from Orkney down to Dover, we will roam the whole world over, and [19:48] Channel flood from EricTheHax -- kicking [19:48] together we'll face the world." lol? [19:48] EricTheHax kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [19:48] titopoquito (n=tito@p508EBEEB.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Verlassend" [19:48] lol [19:48] EricTheHax (i=Angel@adsl-098-068-036-231.sip.bna.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:48] \n pwns [19:49] ok time to shoot the pidgin [19:49] The dirty bird [19:49] spank the monkey while you're at it [19:49] lolol [19:50] the seamonkey? yeah ill kill it. firefox ftw [19:50] he wants to kill fire|bird! :o [19:50] the bastard :oo [19:50] Don't forget the Iceweasel [19:50] :o [19:50] fire|bird: fly you fool! [19:51] Nick change: antiwire -> poppy|cock [19:51] lol [19:51] damn a squito bit my hand [19:51] firefox used to be a bird. it flew away too many times so they made it a fox. Thunderbird used to be a cow. They made it a bird to speed it up. [19:51] You better catch that mosquito and have its contents tested [19:52] tripFantastic: you haz aids now :o [19:52] nah [19:52] deco: No, he has West Nile now. :D [19:52] fire|bird: the horror :o [19:52] AND aids [19:52] and hep [19:52] duno if it lived but it sure did leave alot of whatever it carries (saliva?) [19:52] blood. [19:52] iiik blood [19:52] http://imagebin.org/76303 SOS DD [19:52] you're screwed [19:53] bloooooooooooooooooooooooooood >:D [19:53] you just smashed your own blood all over your wall [19:53] no, i think i was its first meal [19:53] imlost (i=looker@tornado.ktu.lt) joined ##slackware. [19:53] imlost (i=looker@tornado.ktu.lt) left ##slackware. [19:53] tripFantastic: and it's last :o [19:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppDWD3VwxVg [19:53] you might have the flu now [19:53] if not aids [19:54] i didnt feel it pierce my skin [19:54] tripFantastic: that's what everyone says [19:54] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCgtqAsHwAE [19:54] i usually do feel it land tho [19:55] Nick change: poppy|cock -> antiwire [19:55] taco taco taco [19:55] You almost make me forget about TACOOO [19:56] TACO TACO SO GOOD [19:56] anyway you're screwed tripFantastic :( [19:56] RIP [19:56] pff; not bloody likely [19:56] thanks for the good times [19:56] heh [19:56] taco favored kisses for my babeee [19:56] I just did a 320GB disk to disk dd [19:56] it took over 4 hours [19:56] that sucks [19:56] long time [19:56] how do i fix my clock to update from the internet or somethin? im in gmt-6:00 (currently about 19:56) and its showin 00:56 [19:57] ntpd [19:57] ntpdate pool.ntp.org & hwclock -s [19:57] deco, my "Last meal" was terrible. [19:57] EricTheHax: Check out /etc/ntp.conf and /etc/rc.d/rc.ntpd [19:57] TheTrash (i=default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:58] ntpdate and hwclock are not found. sounds like i have to find them now [19:58] its part of slackware ;x [19:58] be root EricTheHax [19:58] EricTheHax: yeah as root [19:58] tripFantastic: what was it ? [19:58] are you root or at least su? [19:58] i did [19:58] im in a root terminal [19:58] deco some frozen box [19:59] lemme play too [19:59] are you root? [19:59] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [19:59] tripFantastic: oh, i had icre cream and chicken [19:59] yes mancha [19:59] ice* [19:59] Hey did anyone mention being root? [19:59] So you didn't do a full install, which means you didn't run timeconfig on installation, which means you need to do that before doing the others, or else you screw things up to a point where you understand it even less. [19:59] oh, by the way you must be root [19:59] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [19:59] Do timeconfig as root, btw. [19:59] mancha shut the fuck up [19:59] EricTheHax: no. [19:59] :o [20:00] i DID a full install [20:00] EricTheHax: *you* are the one needing help. mancha is a regular who was being humorous. You don't get help from regulars by telling them to "shut the fuck up." [20:00] EricTheHax: whereis ntpdate [20:00] EricTheHax: type that as root [20:00] tell us what it says. [20:00] TACOS SO GOOD [20:00] YUMMY YUMMY IN MY TUMMY SO GOOD [20:01] even i have my healpful limits to roodnis [20:01] oooooh i think i know the problem. i said sudo /bin/sh i meant /bin/bash [20:01] EricTheHax: you just do sudo su - [20:01] dont need to set shell. [20:01] blargh there is file named submit.cf which has to setup for trusted users too. had it to edit directly that submit.mc won't work dont know why [20:01] acidchild: sudo -i <-- save the characters! [20:01] rworkman: naw ;o [20:03] i thought mancha was an idiot who didnt listen. i keep taking things seriously when im frustrated [20:03] Welcome to the dark side. [20:04] Action: acidchild glues EricTheHax trap [20:04] i did a full install so WHY are these commands not found? [20:04] candinho (n=candinho@201-68-78-169.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:04] EricTheHax: grep ntpdate /var/log/packages/* [20:04] hi [20:05] masterx831 (n=masterx8@28.178.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:05] /var/log/packages/netdate-bsd4-x86_64-1:netdate: These days, "ntpdate" is probably a better choice. [20:05] /var/log/packages/ntp-4.2.4p7-x86_64-1:usr/sbin/ntpdate [20:05] /var/log/packages/ntp-4.2.4p7-x86_64-1:usr/doc/ntp-4.2.4p7/html/ntpdate.html [20:05] Channel flood from EricTheHax -- kicking [20:05] /var/log/packages/ntp-4.2.4p7-x86_64-1:usr/doc/ntp-4.2.4p7/ntpdate/ [20:05] /var/log/packages/ntp-4.2.4p7-x86_64-1:usr/doc/ntp-4.2.4p7/ntpdate/README [20:05] EricTheHax kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [20:05] EricTheHax (i=Angel@adsl-098-068-036-231.sip.bna.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [20:05] no more help for him. [20:05] :o [20:05] STUPID PIDGIN [20:05] you didn't do whereis did you. [20:05] /sbin/ntpdate pool.ntp.org [20:05] try that. [20:06] -.- [20:06] Channel flood from acidchild -- kicking [20:06] as ROOT [20:06] acidchild kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [20:06] lol [20:06] acidchild (i=ash@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. [20:06] :D [20:06] :o [20:06] gtk+2-2.14.7 is one earlier version of gtk+-2.18.4 [20:06] ? [20:06] Action: acidchild is trying to work out why arm-linux-gcc is diffrnt to arm-elf-gcc [20:06] i used to use ntpd...but it's a bit to heavy for a single user desktop guy like me, and it listens all the time on all interfaces..dont like that [20:06] or there is two kind of gtk, gtk+2- and gtk+- [20:06] using ntpclient now [20:07] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-190-118.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:07] why pidgin makes things into lines like that in slack but not in ubuntu im stumped [20:07] EricTheHax: the same reason humans breath. [20:08] well it worked thx [20:08] i'm losing -310550.3 ms per hour. is that normal [20:08] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@168-103-61-49.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:08] cteg: nope. bios battery is fscked. [20:08] nix_chix0r: wutwut, hi. [20:08] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: "Leaving" [20:08] hi [20:08] gtk+2-2.14.7 is one earlier version of gtk+-2.18.4?or there is two kind of gtk, gtk+2- and gtk+- [20:08] lol fscked. ill remember that one :P [20:09] /sbin/ isn't in a normal users $PATH, hence why we all told you, you need to be root. [20:09] read /etc/profile [20:10] cteg: Are you on protected power? IS your CMOS battery sane? [20:10] dude im always runnin these commands as root [20:10] not as true root, read 'man su' regarding what '-' means. [20:10] or '-l' [20:10] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:11] its called sudo /bin/bash [20:11] no its not. [20:11] well it worked dammit [20:12] antiwire: no protected power. i thought cmos battery is just for keeping things when the box is off [20:12] cteg: yeah.. for sure... maybe you where just out of sync, did you do hwclock after you did your ntp update? [20:12] it should fix the issues. [20:13] not myself...i was supposing ntpclient is doing that for me [20:13] nope. [20:13] maybe ntpclient does, but ntpupdate doesn't... probly worth running regardless. [20:13] candinho (n=candinho@201-68-78-169.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [20:13] ntpdate pool.ntp.org && hwclock --systohc [20:14] yeah have to check how i combine that in my cron job [20:14] or -s ;D [20:14] thank you anyway [20:14] then configure ntpd in /etc and /etc/rc.d [20:14] my clock is so screwed up i made a cronjob to run every hour to run ntpd -quit | hwclock --systohc [20:14] cteg: something broken if you have to do it too much though :-P [20:14] yes i do -s [20:14] ntpclient -s -h 0.de.pool.ntp.org | logger -i -t ntpclient [20:14] as hourly cron job [20:16] i may switch to ntpd -quit too [20:17] wtf is akondai [20:17] a japanese swordmaker [20:17] the program in slackware :\ [20:18] akonadi...something kde...i dont know [20:18] I'm trying to get Dungeons and Dragons online to run in wine and I got all the way up to installing the game but every time I run the installer it returns an error. [20:18] ohh theres where i spelt it wrong LOL [20:18] xovan: I used VirtualBox to install D&D online [20:18] Action: acidchild doesn't find it funny :p [20:18] anyone know wtf akonadi is [20:19] that would probably be a good idea if I had a copy of windows [20:19] i think it's some kind of indexer EricTheHax [20:19] panzer (n=larry@unaffiliated/panzer) joined ##slackware. [20:19] but thats strigi :\ [20:19] yeah again -157946.1 in 30 minutes [20:19] damnit [20:19] We intend to design an extensible cross-desktop storage service for PIM data and meta data providing concurrent read, write, and query access. It will provide unique desktop wide object identification and retrieval. [20:19] EricTheHax: KDE's PIM management stuff. http://pim.kde.org/akonadi/ google is your friend. ;) [20:19] whats happening here [20:19] PIM service.... personal information manager [20:20] google hates me :( [20:20] so is there a ftp site that has the install for 13? [20:21] ftp.slackadelic.com? [20:21] ;P [20:21] slackware.com* [20:21] damn Dominian [20:22] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:23] so how do i make sure a terminal loads with absolute root [20:24] sudo -s [20:24] or sudo su - [20:25] wtf is with adduser command not found? when i was root before i installed sudo i had adduser [20:25] as always we do, i found for my issue a solution again without our humorous professional IRC friends helps. [20:26] by the way i added "ClientSideWithRender"="N" to x11 driver section of user.reg on wine and picasa! [20:26] woohoo sirslacker :-) [20:26] screw it ill just log into a bash screen as root [20:26] but the issue with OOo is remained with out any solution! again has someone now with hand what i have done for wine and picasa, any idea what can cause this? [20:26] thanks acidchild I will have to check that out [20:27] panzer: there are allot of ftp mirrors for slackware :-) http://slackware.com/getslack <-- i believe is a good place to start. [20:28] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving." [20:28] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:29] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [20:29] fire|bird: you read that PIM website? [20:29] it looks kind of cool, maybe if i ran an office with allot of workers. [20:29] acidchild: I've looked over it before, yeah. [20:29] http://slackadelic.com/~ash/screenshot-2009-12-20.png [20:30] i need a 3ed screen [20:30] ;o [20:30] win 3 [20:30] BP{k}: fail ;/ [20:30] fail [20:31] win 3 is ## offtopic lol [20:31] indeed :| [20:31] acidchild: negative. [20:31] haha [20:31] win 9 is offtopic here. [20:31] if i open a terminal window and run logout, will it only log me out of the terminal window or the x server? [20:31] 9 for me is #archlinux. :o [20:31] acidchild: arch? wtf, gtfo of there. :P [20:31] EricTheHax: slackwiki.org. [20:31] fire|bird: haha. :P [20:32] win 3 is #slackbuilds for me. :) [20:32] slackbuilds is win 5 here. :P [20:32] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [20:32] Action: BP{k} slaps fire|bird .. prioritize better .. damn you! ;-P [20:32] hahaha [20:32] BP{k}: front and back wheels are now bent :< [20:32] 1 month... sigh [20:33] acidchild: holy fuck? What happened? [20:33] Action: acidchild destroys bikes. [20:33] Action: EricTheHax is in ur computer, stealin ur root access [20:33] i cycled though something that stripped the paint off my frame too ;< [20:34] acidchild: Dude, stop taking it through the carwash! ;-) [20:34] haha. i need to stop riding down multi flights of stairs too [20:34] no carwash uses denatured alcohol [20:34] or just buy a bike that will handle it. [20:35] EricTheHax: denatured alchol wouldn't remove the paint on my frame. [20:35] install disk three is only the Emacs stuff yes? [20:35] it was something worse. [20:35] BP{k}: i'll get my custom norco one of these days ;o [20:36] http://is.gumtree.com/ad_image/live/big/285818300.jpg [20:36] panzer: http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php and have a look for yourself. [20:36] despiron (n=slackboy@187.64.16.183) left irc: "Wow! What a great client! Bersirc 2.2 [ http://www.bersirc.org/ - Open Source IRC ]" [20:37] thanks [20:37] BP{k}: you have yet to geekp0rn your bike. [20:39] hmm. [20:42] anyone use fluxbox? [20:42] panzer: yep <3 it [20:42] panzer: always [20:42] w8 panzer... .sounds familiar.... [20:43] ok just wondering. about the only thing kde I use is k3b. [20:43] i remember u! remember chaoman or chao-kun or uhh chao something? (i was so chao-obsessed back then) [20:43] and well the only slackware box I have is on 12.1 [20:43] EricTheHax: I don't know [20:44] only people that I have met are rworkman and Alan_Hicks [20:44] hmmm chaoman60 ring a bell? [20:44] neg [20:44] i think back then you told me panzer was a german tank......... or was it russian.... [20:45] german [20:45] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:45] I have been lurking here for years. [20:45] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [20:45] But a damn stupid problem with an old version of ubuntu finally pushed me over the edge [20:45] yes, anyone with a clue about using google or wikipedia could find out that a panzer was a name given to several german tanks. [20:45] reminds me of that song, starts out: "do you remember me cause i remember you..." [20:46] nille_ (i=1000@c-83-233-249-176.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [20:46] heck I have even been on noobfarm a couple of time [20:46] or was it for..... meh, same meaning [20:46] wats a noobfarm? [20:46] sirslacker (n=aligp@p579B5596.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving." [20:47] o forget it googling [20:47] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.223.27) joined ##slackware. [20:47] noobfarm.org [20:48] pineapple grenade "pull pin for service" [20:48] bye [20:48] not only to several tanks, panzer *is* the german word for tank ;) [20:51] "i on the other hand am deeply talented"... "do any of you have any skill at interpreting traceroutes?" [20:51] lololoololol [20:51] o man acidchild ur on there [20:52] 20:52 -!- acidchild [i=ash@noobfarm.org] [20:52] i'm too close for comfort. [20:53] "acidchild: i want to hire someone to fuck you with a hot iron pole." lol [20:53] heh, thats new i see. [20:54] on the server is a bit close yes [20:54] " I remember when the entire internet got DDOSed." fail. the Internet didnt. YOU did, WilliamC [20:54] so has the slackbook reached 3 yet? [20:56] Action: panzer gets out the eight ball "slackbook.org says no" [20:57] #1805 if(sarcasm==1){print"that cant be sexual>_>"} [20:58] slackwar1bob (n=bobby@adsl-76-249-235-51.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:58] #1802 is now going to be my sig [20:59] in forums etc [21:00] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [21:00] Hello People [21:00] darn lid closing hubernates sometimes, suspends sometimes, just crashes KDE menus sometimes [21:01] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:02] hey bob. [21:02] how goes? [21:02] hey bud. going good. [21:02] acpi stuff annoying.... [21:03] yep [21:03] now my laptop is working but I see no KDE menu, panels. [21:03] its like an old man getting out of the old comfy chair in the linux world. [21:04] the rest is working like santa clause on north pole around this time of year. [21:04] good one on the old man. :) [21:04] :> [21:04] djustice (n=kde@75-136-155-254.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:04] How is everyone this eve? [21:04] bad [21:04] where is Rob0? [21:04] fatalnix: frustrated. [21:05] EricTheHax: my favorite; http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=292 [21:05] I guess kwin is not the component that paints panels. I killed and restarted kwin and it didn't work. [21:06] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [21:06] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:06] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-091-096-089-151.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: "this is who we are" [21:08] lol selfpwn [21:08] ^>^ [21:08] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:12] acidtripper (n=gon@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [21:13] lol , that was a good one [21:14] EricTheHax (i=Angel@adsl-098-068-036-231.sip.bna.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Leaving." [21:16] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [21:18] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [21:19] with the latest kde in current, is anyone else experiencing weirdness with the widget button showing up on both top corners of the desktop and blocking windows from maximizing to fill the whole screen? [21:20] I'm using the latest nvidia drivers too [21:20] hey gusy im having these problem with mysql [21:20] Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysql.sock' exists! [21:20] acid: is it that it cant srart? oh [21:20] mysql is running and /var/run/mysql.sock doesn't exist [21:20] acidtripper: Is this a new mysql install or an existing, previously working install? [21:21] try stopping the server? sudo /etc/rc.d/rc.mysql stop [21:21] and then? [21:21] see what that does [21:21] it stops [21:21] ok [21:21] acidtripper: I saw someone else with that problem, though I don't recall the solution, It was pretty simple if I remember correctly. [21:21] now try running start [21:21] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [21:22] you could have tried restart but meh, I'm just curious. [21:22] men, i tried restarting, starting stopping, creating /var/run/mysql.sock by hand [21:22] all [21:22] but cant connect to [21:23] again, is this a new mysql install or a previously working mysql install? [21:23] a new [21:24] did you create your database? [21:24] have you read /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld ? [21:24] yes, i have read [21:24] mysql_install_db is what i did [21:24] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-244-10.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [21:24] yeah then you chown -r mysq:mysql /var/lib/mysql [21:24] oops [21:25] make the first mysq mysql [21:25] or else mysql doesnt start but thats not the message it gives I dont think when you forget to do that [21:25] mysql_install_db --user=mysql <--- I think if you don't have the --user argument, everything in /var/lib/mysql ends up owned by root, which is a Bad Thing [21:25] I didn't know you could do it that way XD [21:26] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-244-10.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:26] the mysql docs always told me to chown -R mysq:mysql /var/lib/mysql after I believe [21:26] fatalnix: is this a dedicated server? [21:26] fatalnix: your way works too, I've done it before [21:26] show us what the output of this: ls -alhd /var/run/mysql/ [21:26] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-244-10.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [21:26] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-244-10.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:26] this/this is [21:27] mrselfpwn: my servers? I didn't think we were talking about my servers :D [21:27] my servers are fine. [21:27] i was just asking [21:27] i have db installed and did chown [21:27] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-244-10.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [21:27] free_fox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:28] i mean acidtripper :) [21:28] nvm.. the janitor unplugged the rack again! damn it! I need a UPS so bad! [21:28] drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K Dec 15 17:23 /var/run/mysql/ [21:28] ... [21:28] he unplugs it then vacuums and the bios isnt capable of power on / power fail [21:28] drwxr-xr-x 2 mysql mysql 4.0K 2009-10-14 23:41 /var/run/mysql// [21:29] acidtripper: what I meant to say to YOU, is that I like the app called webmin that is available on slackbuilds.org. It's okay to do stuff manually though I find it allows for me to quickly do certain tasks correctly in a short time. [21:29] Hoogin (n=hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [21:29] I think the issue is fairly clear [21:29] antiwire: lack of clue? ;) [21:29] fatalnix: looks like you need to kill your janitor. [21:30] after you solve this maybe give it a looksy [21:30] now it's mysql.mysql [21:30] panzer: what if he doesn't like the new one? [21:30] lol nah. I mean, its not totally bad, it only happens when vacations start or are about to [21:30] and problem continue [21:31] mrselfpwn: kill him too. ;) [21:31] brb, rebooting. who said linux doesn't require reboots. [21:31] acidtripper: what does 'ps aux | grep mysql' and also: ls -alh /var/run/mysql/* [21:31] slackwarebob: nobody. What do you need to reboot for? [21:32] or become president of the janitoral association and create your own army of janitors to do your bidding. [21:32] BP{k}: KDE issue really. After lid closing, the KDE menu/panels don't render. Now I just want to restart X. [21:32] you don't need to restart X [21:32] gon 6865 0.0 0.2 5752 2612 pts/1 S+ 23:25 0:00 mcedit /etc/rc.d/mysqld [21:32] root 7005 0.0 0.0 1932 480 pts/0 S+ 23:32 0:00 grep mysql [21:32] sorry for flood :S [21:32] you can just change runlevels [21:33] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-224-86.dsl.scarlet.be) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:33] antiwire: change runlevels and that will do what? Relaunch X? [21:33] yes [21:33] EricTheHax (i=Angel@adsl-098-068-036-231.sip.bna.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:33] init 3 then init 4 again [21:33] ok, you're onto something. So my apps will keep running? [21:33] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:33] EricTheHax (i=Angel@adsl-098-068-036-231.sip.bna.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware (" hi everyone||||| (still in #kde...)"). [21:33] not your X apps [21:33] greetings and salutations [21:34] EricTheHax (i=Angel@adsl-098-068-036-231.sip.bna.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:34] slackwarebob: init 3 will send the system into mutliuser networked cli mode [21:34] yay it works [21:34] init 4 changes back to X [21:34] multiuser* [21:34] antiwire, lol ls: cannot access /var/run/mysql/*: No such file or directory [21:34] greetings andarius:) [21:34] well, if my X apps won't remain, then it'd just be eaiser to just just ctl-alt-backspace [21:34] salutations hitest, how goes ? [21:34] most of the quotes.. theyre from here arent they [21:34] init 3 && init 4 is much quicker than a reboot [21:34] wotcha antiwire :) [21:34] slackwarebob: yes, that is better than switching inits [21:35] wotcha BP{k} :) [21:35] it goes well, anadarius, thank you:) how are you? [21:35] fucksake tabfail [21:35] Action: antiwire cries [21:35] andarius [21:35] lol [21:35] guess, then I won't reboot. Probably just restart X. [21:35] hitest: I am well, time for pizza and beer :) [21:35] brb, guys. [21:35] congratulations [21:35] wotcha andarius :) [21:35] PIZZA [21:35] oizza is ok [21:35] I dont like it much [21:36] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:36] here 23:35 and no food yet, my stomache is crying :P [21:36] like, its no where near my favorite food [21:36] andarius: awesome. going to have a drink or two in 20 minutes myself. I need to take my 15 year old to Avatar first. [21:36] i love meat, and "asado" kinda barbacue but not burned :P [21:36] what is avatar? [21:36] panetone time [21:36] hitest: I watched it earlier. I thought it was good :) [21:36] andarius: good to watch on big screen? [21:37] aye [21:37] good to hear, then my daughter will like it [21:37] fatalnix: ever had the kind of pizza u freeze till u wanna cook it ant it tastes so much different from delivery.. ya know, like Tony's [21:38] you are tripping me out. [21:38] mancha: slick looking computer generated graphics movie out [21:38] what crawled up ur ass, anti? cmon take the mic whats wrong [21:38] Nick change: ClaudioM -> ClaudiOhHolyNite [21:38] I didn't say anything was wrong [21:38] and you're still tripping me out [21:39] ClaudiOhHolyNite (n=ClaudioM@c-67-191-58-46.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [21:39] heh [21:39] who me? [21:39] lol [21:40] whos trippin u out [21:40] EricTheHax is [21:40] how? [21:40] how am i trippin u out [21:40] oh my [21:40] antiwire: can you help me? now all permisions are setted but problem continue [21:41] acidtripper: start from the beginning? [21:41] acidddddddddddd [21:41] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:42] acidtripper: ls -alh /var/lib/mysql/ [21:42] mrselfpwn ah ok. sounds neat. [21:42] drwxr-xr-x 2 mysql mysql 4.0K Dec 15 17:23 . [21:42] drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 4.0K Dec 15 17:20 ..-rw-r--r-- 1 mysql mysql 1.4K Dec 15 17:23 host.err [21:43] have you really created a db? seriosuly [21:43] for reelz this time [21:43] but it's logging to /var/mysql/host.err [21:43] yes i created man [21:43] on the 6th day? [21:43] vut db is on /var/mysql [21:43] lol [21:44] b* [21:44] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC3093D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [21:44] Action: BP{k} has doubts [21:44] yes it is take a look [21:44] alphad (n=alphad@41.207.31.108) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:45] http://acidtripper.pastebin.com/m147d969d [21:45] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/9m0sSk48.html <-- this is what myswql does for me. [21:45] ... [21:45] acidtripper: what in the world have you done? [21:45] Fentruck (n=Fentruck@24-247-201-126.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:46] my lamp server is running current and doesn't even have a /var/mysql/ [21:47] sirslacker (n=aligp@p579B5420.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:47] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-147-169.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:48] Fentruck (n=Fentruck@24-247-201-126.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:48] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-224-199.dsl.scarlet.be) joined ##slackware. [21:48] brb testing some settings related to nickserv [21:49] EricTheHax (i=Angel@adsl-098-068-036-231.sip.bna.bellsouth.net) left irc: " go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars" [21:49] O_o [21:49] EricTheHax (i=Angel@adsl-098-068-036-231.sip.bna.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:49] it worked [21:50] EricTheHax: where you located? [21:50] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [21:50] ? [21:51] why u ask [21:51] where in the great land of bellsouth are you located [21:51] mars [21:51] why do you ask that [21:51] I saw that sip addy too [21:51] kinda of TRIPPING me out [21:51] cause I am located where bellsouth is too [21:52] Action: mancha sings good 'ole rocky top... [21:52] uhhh im over here in zip code 00000. its in space, the first zip code. fuck the earth. [21:52] lamp does not use /opt/lampp dir and the stuffs there? [21:52] well darn [21:52] I think it's time for my nightly 'part of disgust' [21:53] I've got this Samsun TV/Monitor that is supposed to do 1366x768 and can not get nv or nvida to do it. Any suggestions? [21:53] EricTheHax: that's the spirit. [21:53] but in all seriousness, im in columbia, tn [21:53] http://piratepad.net [21:53] EricTheHax: You are Santa Claus. [21:53] not bad. I am a bit south of you [21:53] usr13 what res are you now? [21:53] also 1366 sounds quite odd [21:54] NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x [21:54] bobby (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [21:54] bobby (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) left ##slackware. [21:54] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [21:54] 800x600 [21:54] Hello People. [21:54] usr13: what version of the nvidia driver are you using? [21:54] darndest thing. [21:54] unaffiliated? how get? [21:54] you pay [21:54] EricTheHax: google buddy [21:54] wpa_supplicant from cli just keeps scannig doesn't attach to a network. doubleclick from wicd works fine. [21:54] Organizm (n=lane@c-69-243-237-89.hsd1.al.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:55] EricTheHax: laugh. well either pay or ask [21:55] nvidia-legacy96-driver-96.43.14-x86-1_SBo [21:55] you have to pay freenode for something? PAY to FREEnode? LOLOL [21:55] so the wpa_supplicnt.conf is probably bad [21:55] EricTheHax: "donate" [21:55] slackwarebob: have you configured a /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf block for your network? [21:55] arcfide (i=arcfide@adsl-99-31-12-73.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:56] mancha: antiwire: funny thing I create one by hand. It works sometimes. [21:56] EricTheHax: it's free just google how to get a vhost on freenode [21:56] Hey all. [21:56] mancha: also then I do ps -ef | grep wpa_ and see what is the auto generated file in /var/libs/wicd. I copy the exact contents of that file. [21:56] So then you have signal or driver issues. [21:56] usr13, what's xrandr -q say? [21:56] I was wondering if any of you have played with the ATI drivers? I have them working (they even make the slackware packages for you, that was a surprise), but there are some interesting rendering "features" that I would like to figure out. [21:56] then I do wpa_supplicant -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and the thing just keeps scanning. [21:56] usr13: are you sure that is the correct driver and you shouldn't use the older one? [21:57] wpa_supplicant works 100% of the time, provided I have a configured block and my laptop is in range. [21:57] slack, pastebin the .conf [21:57] Specifically, when I run x11_ssh_askpass, the boxes have some of the shadows and highlighting around the widgets just missing. [21:57] mancha: well, if you want to look at it that another thing. But the problem is solved by using wicd. Just a matter of curiosity why it doesn't work. If you want, I'll pastebin. [21:58] you aren't solving any problem by using wicd instead. you are just ignoring the problem [21:58] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:58] cmeow (i=cmeow@207.192.71.173) joined ##slackware. [21:58] the stock Slackware networking scripts are more than adequate to work for any wireless situation [21:58] Do I run it as root? (xrandr -q ) [21:58] i'm not particularly anxious to read/debug your .conf, i was working under the assumption you had interest in me doing so [21:58] no, run it as whoever owns the display [21:59] any? that may be a far stretch [21:59] so if freenode's policy for vhost is the same as others, i just ask some1? [22:00] wpa_supplicant.conf can handle plaintext through certificate based auth [22:00] http://pastebin.ca/1722013 [22:00] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [22:00] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) left ##slackware. [22:00] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [22:00] Hello People. [22:00] EricTheHax: it's all in writing on how to do it. the same writing I read when I created my account is still there. [22:00] BOB [22:00] just the simple act of sudo kate, restarted my KDE. [22:00] getting frustrated with KDE everyday. [22:00] usr13, ok, it's not thinking you can go higher than 800x600 [22:01] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC3012D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [22:01] usr13: I had a similar problem with a voodoo 3 card. I finally got it to do the resolution I needed though It took quiet a bit of screwing around [22:01] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.218.185.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:02] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: "just to eat" [22:02] how any KDE dev thought that any error justified restarted entire KDE without saving session or asking user is just mind boggling. [22:02] mancha: Yea, it appears so. [22:02] and then they criticize windows, lol. [22:02] usr13: i needs to be explicit in xorg.conf. take out all other resolutions beside the one you require. [22:02] mrselfpwn: I tried that.. [22:03] let me see what I did. may help may not. [22:03] is it an older card? [22:04] usr13: nvm. lol. that was my old server. :) [22:04] mancha: mx4 i believe [22:04] nvidia [22:04] ball (n=ball@adsl-99-142-29-249.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:05] http://pastebin.ca/1722021 [22:05] I tried Screen section like ^^ [22:05] usr13: why the wierd resolution? [22:05] edman007: you here too? [22:05] no [22:05] mrselfpwn: I don't know. [22:06] actually, its my bedtime :( [22:06] mrselfpwn: Because it is the screen size of the monitor. [22:06] wide 15''? [22:06] well darn. installing irssi on ubuntu was enough of a pain in my ass that I am downloading 13 [22:06] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:06] really? [22:06] hrm [22:06] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:06] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [22:06] usr13, is it a samsung wide 15? [22:06] if you can't manage installing irssi on ubuntu, slackware might not be for you ;) [22:06] 1336x768 = the 16:9 version of 1024x768 [22:06] thrice`: don't start [22:07] square pixels I'm sure [22:07] ubuntu isn't all bad, at least it lets you in from the locked screensaver if you forget your pw, jsust enter the wrong pw 5 times in a row [22:07] thrice`: I hate how it doesn't even come with ncurses [22:07] Ubuntu doesn't come with ncurses? [22:07] its not that hard...just shrink the rootfs, reparition and format the free space, download slack, install slack to the partition, fix the bootloader to do slack, and reboot [22:07] no [22:08] edman007: every solution was go use the gui tools to grab something from the damn package manager. so a bit of gettext ncurses glib and irssi later here I am again [22:08] ball: ^ [22:08] yo ball how is Mrs. Ball doing? [22:08] panzer! [22:08] makerc (n=godzila@unaffiliated/makerc) joined ##slackware. [22:08] brb [22:08] panzer, alright, well i'm leaving, its sleepy time [22:08] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-147-169.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: "rcirc on GNU Emacs 22.3.1" [22:08] edman007: later man. [22:09] panzer: I'm not a fan of ubuntu, but couldn't you just "apt-get install irssi" and let it pull in the dependencies? [22:09] lol [22:09] Urchlay: no old version of ubuntu [22:09] surely it still had apt [22:09] not updated [22:09] old version that didn't have irssi in its repo? [22:09] or that has a horribly old irssi? [22:09] it has it but there was not a server for it to connect to. [22:10] huh? [22:10] http://www.walmart.com/Vizio-19-Class-LCD-HDTV/ip/10854033 [22:10] that doesn't make any sense [22:10] It's this one ^^^ [22:10] thrice`: nope it don't do it. yet here I am [22:10] I don't like ubuntu much either, personally, but your accusations seem pretty bad [22:11] again though please don't start [22:11] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-16-69.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:11] Delivers 1366 x 768 resolution for high picture quality at 720p [22:11] usr13: that thing is $178? I want one... [22:11] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-19.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:11] usr13: your card probably doesn't support that [22:11] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [22:11] Urchlay: Yea, not bad [22:11] mrselfpwn: That could be... [22:12] NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x [22:12] blah, no standard VGA connector though [22:12] would be good to read up on the max res of your card [22:12] Urchlay: Yes, the one I have IS standard VGA connector. [22:12] oh, sweet [22:12] usr13: you paid 178 ? [22:13] teckan_ (n=teckan@p5B0CB54F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [22:13] I paid $400 for a 19" panel a few years ago, at the time it was a good deal (VGA connector only, doesn't double as a TV, 1680x1050 res) [22:14] usbtv [22:14] lcd's are not bad. prob is most of them have bad caps in the power supplies now. [22:14] unfortunately, LCDs *do* get "burn-in" like CRTs do (at least, this one did, it's got dark spots where my windowmaker dock is) [22:15] mrselfpwn: Yes 178 [22:15] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [22:15] and it does in fact have standard VGA connector. [22:16] There is imput button on the remote and you just select TV or PC [22:16] usr13: I paid 200 for a 22" lcd on black friday a couple of years ago. dvi input. haven't come a cross a better deal yet, though haven't tried it as a tv as I have my big screen for that. [22:17] Urchlay: ^ [22:18] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:18] dont fuckin leave it on forever [22:18] My son bought this one [22:19] syncmaster 2232bw here [22:19] syncmaster here too [22:19] It's only $178 at Walmart [22:20] Viewsonic crt here [22:20] http://www.walmart.com/Vizio-19-Class-LCD-HDTV/ip/10854033 [22:20] also tell the dock/bar/whatever to autohide [22:20] EricTheHax: when I had a job that involved using it for 8 to 10 hours a day I kinda had to leave it on "forever" [22:20] seeing how litle tv I actually watch I opted for the larger "computer display" [22:20] I have a laptop and that's the only system with a screen that I have [22:20] But doesn't look like I can get it to play right on this Slackware system. [22:20] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC3093D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [22:20] Oh well. [22:21] Not with the NV18 anyway... [22:21] and no, I don't want the dock/bar/etc to autohide, I don't want things moving/animating/etc on my desktop unless I actually tell them to (can't tolerate distractions) [22:21] try an earlier nv [22:21] Urchlay: haha i agree [22:22] ball (n=ball@adsl-99-142-29-249.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [22:22] damn moving parts always causing problems [22:22] gui getting in the way. use cli [22:22] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.75.115) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:23] vwm is pretty sweet [22:24] try to run something to change the pixels rapidly and randomly to try to fix some of the burn in [22:24] it;; never go away but it can get pretty close [22:24] run it once a week, if u have seizures its working [22:24] panzer: I use the GUI mainly to give me a bunch of CLI's that I can see more than one of at a time [22:25] i fixed a stuck pixel once [22:25] EricTheHax: hm, so the solution to the problem of having damaged pixels, is to damage the rest of the pixels to match? ouch [22:25] Urchlay: depends on my setup [22:25] but yes sometimes I do to [22:25] Urchlay: have you tried VWM? [22:26] mrselfpwn: never even heard of it... is it part of the fluxbox/openbox/etc family? [22:26] but screen sure does come in handy. [22:26] Urchlay: Viper Window Manager is a lightweight, extensible window manager for the console. [22:26] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [22:26] Hello People [22:27] oh, not an X window manager, it's something like twin [22:27] no X required. I just found it today on slackbuilds.org. [22:27] Urchlay: yes, though it seems a little easier to me than twin. [22:27] what u mean damage the rest? changing pixel color randomly at a high rate (such as your refresh rate) partially reverses damage [22:27] f I have to reboot one more time, somebody's gonna get hurt. [22:27] I have to admit, I'm addicted to being able to see the images in web pages, so I kinda need X anyway [22:27] considering I've only tried twin from within X [22:27] also prevents damage [22:27] arg!!!! [22:28] Urchlay: true enough though in case you find yourself without X links -g works great for me. [22:28] (yes I'm aware that non-X graphical browsers exist, but none of them have an ad-block plugin or the ability to display flash selectively...) [22:28] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Client Quit [22:28] "links -g" either works or locks up your console, depends on how you have things set up :) [22:29] Urchlay: yeah, of course not. just fyi vwm is pretty cool for some remote stuff which is why I use it. [22:29] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:29] i mean, i'm in X right now lol. [22:29] Organizm (n=lane@c-69-243-237-89.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:30] teckan (n=teckan@p5B0CDA5B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:30] mrselfpwn: kinda funny. for remote work from windows I use putty. remote work on a linux box I use ssh. [22:30] take some ratpoison [22:31] tend to use screen with ssh sessions [22:31] panzer: it has nothing to do with ssh [22:31] putty is a great little app, i just wish it had tabs [22:31] mancha, mutty [22:31] mrselfpwn: meaning that I don't need to have a wm for console. [22:31] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [22:32] http://mutty.org/ [22:32] i found a better way: make a screensaver that switches between a white image and a black image every 6 seconds (such as make 2 images each with the resolution set to your screen's resolution, one white one black and tell a slide show screensaver to use those and switch every 6 seconds) [22:32] panzer: console is the anti-wm [22:32] yeah, it requires that msft development runtime shit, no? [22:32] mancha: not sure [22:33] i remember when i had a crt and i always had a deep tan [22:34] EricTheHax: then your crt was screwed up. [22:34] cause I have had them for years with no issues. [22:34] no it was always on cause i was always on it [22:34] :P [22:35] hmm. so you are at your computer for more then 14+ hours per day? [22:35] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [22:35] on breaks, used to [22:35] mancha: honestly I've only thought of using putty in linux once or twice though figured it would be redundant. Is it better for some stuff? [22:36] "howd u get a tan over christmas break sitting in ur room?" simple. programming in front of a crt [22:36] hmm [22:36] putty under linux is nice if you just want some tool that can keep profiles and do serial/ssh/telnet all at once [22:36] hmm [22:36] I use it once in a while since ssh and minicom are usually enough for me [22:36] i thought putty was linux for windows [22:37] ? [22:37] yeah, i usually use minicom [22:37] putty is a cross platform ssh/telnet/serial/raw client [22:37] EricTheHax: bro, ffs [22:38] it's just a medium to connect with [22:38] whenever i see putty its running a linux server from a windows computer so uh yeah..... [22:38] putty isn't running anything. [22:38] what the hell [22:38] Nick change: quok -> QuokTheRipper [22:38] putty is a client [22:39] Nick change: QuokTheRipper -> quok [22:39] i meant controlling a remote linux server. damn english [22:40] EricTheHax: I remember when I had a 21" CRT and a sore back... [22:40] ok then then you meant to say "whenever i see putty its controlling a remote linux server from a windows computer so uh yeah....." which is exactly what it does.... [22:40] yep havent we all [22:40] (actually I still have it, but I think the place where it's sitting is the place where it will sit for all eternity) [22:41] EricTheHax: you are actually just connecting to the server via putty. [22:41] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.223.27) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:41] oh [22:41] I'll shed a tear when it finally dies, it's an old Digital (as in DEC) workstation monitor [22:42] i thought it was only to control linux machines remotely. when has putty had windows as the server? [22:42] when a windows server runs an sshd or telnetd... [22:42] man [22:42] eh, any OS that you can run an SSH server on, you can connect to with an SSH client [22:42] EricTheHax: man ssh [22:43] oh its ssh....... [22:43] this is going nowhere [22:43] /agreed [22:43] it might be kinda useless to ssh into a windows server (or not, can you do anything useful from the windows cmd prompt?) [22:43] hell no [22:43] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [22:43] have you ever run cygwin on a windows system? [22:43] Hello People. [22:43] I guess not. [22:43] same as my poker hand in this game of hold em i'm playing [22:43] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) left ##slackware. [22:43] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [22:44] Urchlay: depends on what you want to do. I did backups of my windows servers at cli [22:44] antiwire: it's pretty pointless [22:44] You can do quite a bit with cygwin on a windows server in fact. [22:44] ok wpa_supplicant fixed. [22:44] finally [22:44] it's not pointless [22:44] no i mean to ask that [22:44] if he doesn't understand the prior [22:44] mrselfpwn: what software do you use for that (or are we talking about real poker) [22:44] antiwire: I have, eons ago, but didn't really explore what all it could do (I had gcc, make, bash, perl, cvs, and an ssh client, which was all I needed to checkout and build) [22:44] BP{k}: just playing the facebook Zynga poker [22:45] it was windows 98, never even occurred to me that I might be able to run an ssh server on it [22:45] Urchlay: I wonder why [22:46] panzer: well I had a working client, so I could checkout the code, build the windows exe, test-run it, and scp it to the place it needed to go... [22:46] makerc (n=godzila@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:46] Urchlay: of course and if that worked for you then great. [22:46] the though of ssh on windows 98 would suck. [22:47] I often setup windows systems to run an ssh daemon so I can scp files between them and a linux file server across possibly hostile networks [22:47] everything but the test run could have been done remotely with an ssh server... it was an app that used SDL, which didn't even (back then anyway) display over VNC, I *had* to be sitting at the windows box to see it run [22:47] heck pscp on windows to dump to sucks [22:47] antiwire: me too. it's a pain to set up though worth it.. [22:48] copssh isn't difficult at all [22:48] by pain i just mean the download times [22:48] yeah, it works well though for that. [22:48] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC3093D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Connection timed out [22:50] lol my friend just said that they cant afford both a movie and copporn (lol i love typos) and asked me which one they should get. popcorn, or "copporn", every time :P [22:50] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:50] i always just get the going around your elbow feeling when setting up ssh in windows [22:50] hey guys the wallpaper looks like KDE is not using all the colors. [22:50] like on gradients, it looks like bbands [22:51] slackwarebob: are you using ubuntu? [22:51] you think it's the graphics driver or something in X. [22:51] mrselfpwn: no, slackware. [22:51] slackwarebob: and your point? [22:51] mrself honestly, i have putty on linux (though there's no good reason to not use openssh). also keep in mind that putty uses the "p" prefix on its files, and this conflicts with pscp [22:51] EricTheHax: asking. [22:52] mancha: intersting. I never new that. [22:52] I'm using k3b on Slack64-13.0, and was burning an ISO to DVD. It's been spinning the disc for several minutes and claiming to be writing, but with 0 KB/s writing, but also says that all 3700ish MB were written. [22:52] Trying to determine whether it's safe to remove the disc. [22:52] coooooooooooold...... [22:53] deco_ (n=deco@adsl-69-108-86-66.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [22:53] s/new/knew [22:53] so anyone got any ideas on where to debug the less than stellar gui resolution [22:54] slackwarebob: what card [22:54] i'm too removed from the windows world to know but has putty and openssh (on cygwin) pretty much squeezed out things like securecrt, f-secure, etc? [22:54] EricTheHax: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72M [22:55] mancha: I haven't tried those in cygwin [22:55] dunno [22:55] did you get the nvidia driver and kernel thingy [22:55] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:55] just basic scp and stuff like that [22:55] EricTheHax: no, just stock slackware install. [22:56] http://www.sbopkg.org/ install this, run sbopkg, and search nvidia. first 2 results: driver and kernel thing [22:57] glad to ask. :) thanks EricTheHax [22:57] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.53.176) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:57] its a terminal command, not x, so yeah... [22:58] tell it to install while it builds when you get the nvidia stuff [22:58] easier [22:59] also, if you install nvidia-driver it seems that you need to cd / before the nvidia-switch --install [22:59] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [22:59] sbopkg, pretty cool. [22:59] maybe only applies to upgrades, not sure though. [22:59] getting tired of browse to sbo, download gz, build tgz, install. [23:01] acidtripper (n=gon@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:02] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:02] Nick change: deco_ -> deco [23:03] crap, gotta sync. [23:03] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:05] so the sbopkg thing, will it update (uninstall old version and install new version) in one shot? [23:05] AusLoki (n=root@c-69-141-34-70.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:05] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [23:05] AusLoki kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [23:06] AusLoki (n=josh@c-69-141-34-70.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] How would I identify which package on the slack dvd has a particular file? [23:08] there a file called files.txt or summit [23:08] oh, a particular file inside a package? [23:08] ok, this nvidia-drivers is probably the right thing. But it will require a restart of X, so I will download it but install later. [23:09] slackwarebob: fix it now so we can see. :) [23:09] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.41.43) joined ##slackware. [23:09] mancha, yes a particular file [23:09] i think x may need to be restarted but first see if you can run nvidia x server settings and run the command it tells you to run [23:10] so cold... [23:10] i think you might have to grep in the tar tvf of the files [23:10] I tried that [23:10] I think I actually have to list the contents for each file and then grep [23:10] sigh [23:10] I don't know how to script that [23:11] for i in .; tar zlvf $i |grep file; done; [23:11] is that close? [23:11] for i in *.tgz; do tar tzvf $i | grep $file; done [23:12] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:12] what is the t argument for tar? [23:13] shows the files [23:13] I was going to use -O [23:13] hmm [23:13] ive been away from linux for about 5 years...im very rusty [23:13] yeah you don't wanna extract at all, just -t it [23:14] stygian (i=stygian@ppp-70-133-217-217.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:14] stygian (i=stygian@ppp-70-133-217-217.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: "ircII EPIC4-2.8 -- Are we there yet?" [23:15] the files are .txz and are not gzip or bzip [23:15] they are xz'ipped [23:15] file says they are xv compressed [23:15] hmm [23:15] so use a J instead of my z [23:15] ok...when did this change? [23:15] slack13 [23:16] is it far better? [23:16] should say xz compressed, if it says xv then it's gratuitious advertisment for the shareware image viewer [23:16] OK, the bash script above outputs the file, but I can't see which package the file is from [23:16] it is bettercompression in general, takes a while longer to compress though [23:17] use -H on grep [23:17] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:17] oh wait, i know what's wrong.... [23:17] it returns standard input [23:18] yeah we need to fix this up a bit [23:19] hyke (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:19] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-86-66.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:19] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [23:21] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-17-227.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:23] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [23:25] try this: for i in *.txz; do tar tJvf $i | grep -q $FILE; if [ $? = 0 ]; then echo "$i"; fi; done [23:26] slackwarebob: did it work? [23:27] Action: EricTheHax will be back. this is not an away warning, just to make sure bob doesn't think he's getting the cold shoulder [23:29] EricTheHax: sbopkg installed. looking cool. haven't installed nvidia stuff. it will require X restart. So I will do it later. [23:29] mancha: that worked, although it returned two files [23:29] it will require reading the instructions properly. [23:29] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:30] AusLoki that means two pakages have that file. could be one of those with repeats like openssl and openssl-solibs, or a catch-all like aaaelflibs or summut [23:30] otherwise it could be a bona fide collision [23:30] Ahh, thanks for your help, it works great [23:30] welcome. enjoy [23:30] I don't like having a full install, so I will keep this script for the future [23:31] I last used slack back in 2003/4, and I don't remember everyone recommending the full install [23:31] I wonder if that has become a thing from recent years [23:31] hd space is dirt cheap nowadays [23:31] so that is what happened? [23:32] my theory is a lot of slack users have gone to arch and gentoo instead [23:32] I have been on the LQ forums [23:32] and a full install seems like the answer to every problem [23:32] I remeber things differently, with people helping me to find which package was needed and then I would learn a bit more about my system as a result [23:33] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:33] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host181.200-117-181.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:33] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host181.200-117-181.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [23:33] for those using commandline irc clients, which are you using? [23:34] irsii? [23:34] no, i use irssi [23:34] ahh, that's what I meant [23:34] weechat is pretty cool. ;) [23:34] AusLoki, what happens is that people who don't know what their doing trying to turn slackware into LFS and bork it. Since hd's cost pennies these days, as mancha said, a full install is a reasonable and practically instant fix. [23:34] they're* [23:35] i think the linux userbase has grown less technically saavy too. so full install = easier to prevent problems when the person is clueless. also HD space used to be a concern, it is no longer. [23:35] on that part. i beg to differ about the pennies part [23:35] sorry to repeat hipto, our messages crossed in the ether. [23:35] mancha, absolutely, For example here I am. I don't know shit. [23:35] mancha: nah, more technically unsaavy people started using linux. [23:36] I just think it is sad that the community has changed from encouraging learning and setting up your system to how you like to encouraging everybody install everything because it is easier [23:36] It doesn't really matter what the reason is. The Slackware team recommends a full install. It naturally follows that the user community as a whole would recommend a full install. [23:36] AusLoki: we encourage learning. You learn by doing a full install and figuring out what parts of the system need other parts, and then you can do your minimal install with "only what you need." [23:36] rworkman: Did the team always recommend a full install? If not, with which release did they start? [23:37] Having someone here (or anywhere) tell you what you're missing isn't "learning" - it's spoonfeeding. [23:37] AusLoki: except in #slackware. hopefully it will stay that way. [23:37] It there any site which could archive the files like gpx like webarchive or something [23:37] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-69.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:37] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [23:38] AusLoki: I can't answer that, if only because the question is premised on an unsubstantiated assumption. [23:38] even in slackware, unless one really really knows what they are doing a full install is recommended [23:38] rworkman: disagree. The full install is spoonfeeding, as there is no incentive or need to figure anything out. If something is missing, you will have to figure out what that is, and learn what it is a aprt of and why it is needed as a result [23:38] rworkman: I don't recall the full install being recommended with slack 8, but I could be wrong. [23:38] AusLoki: well, you're free to disagree, but since I'm part of the Slackware team, well, you can take it from there. [23:39] AusLoki, if you want some tricks to help you figure out the deps that the team has already figured out, use ldd and slackpkg search [23:39] Aus, most people who don't do full installs and come here for help don't ask for the tools to figure it out (as you did), they merely ask or say "slackware 13 is broken, xyz doesn't work" [23:39] If you did as mancha is saying, then I have no complaint with you, AusLoki - I want to make that clear. He's right. [23:40] (I just looked in - I didn't see what led up to this exchange) [23:40] Hey, no problems [23:40] Personally, I want to learn and educate myself rather than just have everything magically work [23:40] It is one of the main reasons if not the main reason I chose slack [23:40] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:40] AusLoki: on that note. I actually am more helpful with giving explicit commands that are easily found on google than some other people who frequent slackware. That being said, i'd rather be teh anomily nice guy than it turn into something that aims to replace an easy google search. [23:41] In that case, then yeah, ldd(1) is your friend, along with the metadata (e.g. PACKAGES.TXT, FILELIST.TXT) on the install media or mirror [23:41] I just don't recall the full install ever being recommended so much before, and most people in the community wishing to learn as I do [23:41] I'm not trying to criticize or change things, just to work out if the community did change or I remember it incorrectly [23:42] Well, *most* people do *not* want to learn - they want to "just happen" for them, and if it doesn't, they want someone to spoonfeed them. [23:42] Which is a shame, and those people never would have used slackware back in the day...or so I would have thought [23:42] I would guess that the "community" has been bombarded with too many of the "bad" users and basically gave up on trying to teach. [23:42] agreed on that point [23:42] hmm [23:42] it seems that is what happened [23:43] don't forget that slackware is also an exercise in finance... [23:43] As it stands now, I (and many others) tend to stay low-key until/unless a tricky problem or a teachable moment comes along. [23:44] mancha: what do you mean? [23:44] Action: rworkman is wondering too [23:44] yes, a small and very knowledgable userbase is good for quality chat...but a broader (and by extension less knowledgable base) is better if you live off your DVD sales [23:44] good point [23:44] right [23:45] another reasong I love slackware community. [23:45] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:45] sorry my initial comment was cryptic :) i only used rot-13 twice :P [23:45] haha [23:46] ^^ [23:47] damn illness im freezin and im the warm one in ttthe house [23:48] anyway guys [23:48] I'm off [23:48] thanks for the chat and he assistance [23:48] now the taables are turned causse of my illness [23:48] my pet peeve is that people would at least do a google search to find more before they ask in irc [23:48] mrselfpwn:I did try searching for ages, but nothing turned up [23:48] i google, it just dont like me these days [23:49] mohaa (n=nome@188.115.65.22) joined ##slackware. [23:49] anyway, ciao [23:49] i built a linux kernel before i ever knew what irc was. [23:49] AusLoki (n=josh@c-69-141-34-70.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [23:49] you built your own? [23:49] yes [23:49] lucky. im so afraid to try [23:49] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [23:49] so what made you switch to slack [23:50] um [23:50] idiots eye view [23:50] lenin- (n=kinginno@ool-182e237b.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [23:50] i have never tried an "easy" distro [23:51] i was told slack takes 1337 skilz. i found that to be bullshit [23:51] i run many distros, for example. there is a huge amount of overlap. but i admit i have the most "fun" when i am fiddling in my slackware [23:51] EricTheHax: you still don't know what ssh is. [23:51] kingbeowulf (n=kingbeow@ip11.73.dhcp-acs2.511.iinet.com) joined ##slackware. [23:51] ya i do [23:51] well not a definition but i know what its for and what it does [23:51] good. [23:52] which you learned tonight [23:52] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.41.43) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:52] how should i put it.... It's like rdp, but cli instead of desktop. i just didnt know that putty was just a ssh client [23:53] slackware is the easiest one to run [23:53] i agree with you on that [23:54] because the userbase is so good [23:55] yeah ubuntu 9.10 dropped many of the ubuntu features i liked, such as being able to not use pulseaudio, and being able to use my g-pen f610 (rebranded waltop) [23:56] 9.04 i didnt need to use my amp to listen to myself play guitar. crucial for preparing to record [23:56] 9.10 "sorry about your luck" [23:56] hrm? [23:57] sirslacker (n=aligp@p579B5420.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving." [23:57] if you play guitar do not get ubuntu 9.10 [23:57] lol [23:57] yes i used to love ubuntu, but there's more fun out there [23:57] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201204959]" [23:58] EricTheHax: my only suggestion to you bud is to learn the basics [23:58] read the docs etc [23:58] like to get ubuntu to stop rejecting the software i switch to? [23:59] huh? [23:59] i know how, just too much hassle since i have to do more in ubuntu than slack because slack is all user-changed [00:00] --- Mon Dec 21 2009