[00:00] danc3: attitude like that keeps users away... linux needs as many developers as it can get, no matter what language they use [00:00] BS [00:00] we don't need .NET crap in Linux [00:00] go play with your Windoze buddies [00:01] danc3: don't care what you think, you don't own linux, its open anyone can do anything with it, besides i been using it since 2001 and only use windows at work [00:01] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) joined ##slackware. [00:01] uh-huh [00:02] delt0r (~delt0r@80-123-61-14.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [00:03] NaCl: thank you much , i now get slackbook and read it , i learn every thing from it [00:04] dunix (~dguitar@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:06] sylon, monodevelop has an official irc channel on gimpnet [00:07] spiko: ok cool, although i'd guess most people there be novel/suse guys and probably don't know about slackware pkg though i could be wrong [00:07] sylon, they would probably know you need some gnome libs [00:08] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) left irc: Quit: GoodBye - See you later [00:08] slackware has no gnome anymore so compiling md is quite hard [00:08] that's a good thing [00:08] maybe you should use Noobuntu [00:09] found a lot of usefull stuff including slackbuilds in the gsb repos http://dev.gnomeslackbuild.org/repositories/browse/gsb-source/trunk/src/m/monodevelop [00:09] danc3, with your attitude maybe you should have a computer permit :P [00:09] a permit? I don't get it. [00:10] you know, a licence to use computers [00:10] sure, ok. yeah. ummm. yeah. [00:11] dunno why it should be hard to use programs [00:11] computers are all about maing stuff easy [00:11] making* [00:12] i dont know who this danc3 is but i am willing to bet novell, its employees and other mono guys are contributing more to OSS and linux through all the apps they write than danc3 sitting here bad mouthing them, i do realise these MS technologies have patents and stuff but its better than doing nothing [00:12] sylon: bugger off, Win-wannabe [00:13] xdan779 (~daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [00:13] it's assholes like you and the Novell dickheads that are "commercializing" Linux and molding it into just a clone of Windoze. [00:14] that isn't what Linux is, and not what some of us want to see happen. [00:14] L [00:14] danc3: if it wasn't meant for these things then Linus wouldn't open source it, the whole point is take it and do whatever you want, infact you are sounding more like a windows guy wanting things left alone [00:15] no one is forcing you to use these mono apps [00:15] Action: danc3 adds 'sylon' to the /ignore list [00:15] thanks now i dont have to hear you trolling [00:15] i don't think it works both ways [00:15] yeah but he wont be responding to what he doesnt see [00:16] mattallmill__ (~mattallmi@ip68-103-163-24.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [00:16] O.o [00:16] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-167-231.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:16] hitest: finish the wine? [00:16] yeah;) [00:16] heh [00:17] I discovered an unopened bottle of scotch at the back of the shelf but don't think I'll open it tonight :) [00:17] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) joined ##slackware. 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[03:15] hello [03:16] many linux distributions are now gone, they are not active now, is there any possibility to get slackware inactive, if not why ? [03:16] may slackware be gone forever? [03:16] Vlad (~Vlad@c-191c70d5.37-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [03:17] may it be obsulete? [03:17] never [03:22] manhunter (~manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [03:23] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 3814, sources date: 20091222, built on: 2010-01-09 17:48:42 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [03:26] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-60-67.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [03:27] manhunter (~manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter) joined ##slackware. [03:27] FRSoldier (frsoldier@212.78.0.2) joined ##slackware. [03:27] hello, what packages to be installed for wireless connection ? [03:30] there was electricity problem [03:30] is there any possibility to get slackware obsulete? [03:30] Vlad (Vlad@c-191c70d5.37-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left ##slackware ("Lämnar"). [03:30] kuitang (~kuitang@173-30-220-7.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:34] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [03:37] manhunter: wireless-tools-29-i486-5.txt ? [03:38] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [03:38] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-71-12.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:38] FRSoldier: one says, wicd [03:39] tell you what... [03:39] wicd is pretty sweet. you don't NEED it, but it's the best wifi gui manager IMO [03:41] manhunter: sorry I don't know wicd [03:41] isn't wicd in /extra? [03:42] don't have my disc on hand atm [03:42] It sure is. [03:42] Thanks for the confirmation. [03:43] i did slackpkg install wicd, now how to start it [03:43] vicd-client [03:43] wicd-client -n , doesn't work [03:43] wicd-client [03:45] wow... i just realized my ex-gf's dad looks just like Lando from Starwars [03:47] Nick change: manhunter -> package [03:48] ienh (~ienh@silent.noctechant.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:48] hello slackers, [03:49] how is my nick ? [03:49] hi [03:49] how does it look [03:49] ? [03:49] it's a nick... [03:49] i'm a package [03:49] Action: LSD` kicks package in the, uh... package [03:49] packagehuter [03:49] ... you are a set of cock and balls... LUL [03:50] Were you built with a SlackBuild? [03:50] .txz package [03:50] I've had my nick since 98 [03:50] errr more like 99 [03:51] rly? [03:51] Cann0n: but info Cann0n shows 1 years 50 weeks [03:51] LSD`: you can't stay without package , right ? [03:52] maybe. But I've been using it much longer than that [03:52] lxdee [03:52] I hung out on 2600 and Dalnet [03:52] and tribes [03:52] tribes is where it started [03:52] i don't even thing that server is still around [03:53] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [03:53] is rworkman sleeping ? [03:53] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [03:54] is alienBOB sleeping? [03:54] probablyi it's 4am USEast [03:54] they need to build package [03:54] why don't you do itL [03:54] slackbuilds are easy to make [03:54] theres a howto on SBo [03:54] It's so easy, a Cann0n can do it! [03:55] can i do it? [03:55] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:55] Nigr0mant3 (~Nigromant@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [03:55] yeah, if I can do it, you can too. trust me on that. I'm a skater stoner [03:55] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:55] what's "skater stoner" ? [03:56] That is to say, he sits on his front porch and throws rocks at skateboarders passing by. [03:56] Cann0n: have you built a slackbuild package? [03:56] someone who skates and smokes illegal all natural mind altering "cigarettes" [03:56] package: never heard of it. [03:57] is there any possibility for slackware to be obsulete? [03:57] skateboards* [03:57] can it be gone forever [03:57] ? [03:57] package: you haven't done your researh have you...? [03:57] slackware is the oldest distro still in development [03:57] it came out in 1993 (year I started skating) [03:57] Cann0n: i have to make a slackbuilds for a package, shell script [03:57] Nick change: package -> packages [03:58] yes [03:58] i know [03:58] packages: I know, I was being sarcastic. Have you tried opening package.Slackbild in vim yet? [03:58] yes [03:58] ARCH= [03:59] i486 [03:59] have you noticed there are all very similar? you can write your own build scripts no problem. [03:59] yessss [03:59] I set mine to x86_64 [03:59] i do not change that [03:59] it's 32 bit [03:59] for me [03:59] i use [03:59] what package are you trying to build? [04:04] mquin (~mquin@freenode/staff/mquin) left irc: Quit: Support Freenode - http://bit.ly/3NtvfD [04:05] Hi [04:05] hi [04:06] Nigr0mant3 (~Nigromant@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:10] vzoltan_ (~vela@dsl54027D21.pool.t-online.hu) joined ##slackware. [04:10] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [04:11] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-128.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:13] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [04:16] Nigr0mant3 (~Nigromant@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [04:18] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [04:18] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-71-12.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. 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[04:38] helwo [04:39] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-60-67.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:42] is anyone taking coffee? [04:45] hi no [04:50] slackers do not smoke , how true is it ? [04:55] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-210-143.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [04:57] brbrbr (~Basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [04:57] manhunter, I am smoking [04:59] but i can't get smoke [04:59] wertik_rus: do you use slackware? [04:59] of course [05:00] version? [05:00] current [05:00] kde ? [05:00] yes , I use native DE [05:01] correcaminos (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [05:01] kde version? [05:01] I think 4.3.4 [05:02] yes , I have Kde version 4.3.4 [05:02] how did you install slack current ? [05:03] I making yourself DVD image [05:04] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [05:04] what do you mean ? [05:05] manhunter, ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-current/isolinux/README.TXT [05:06] Nigr0mant3 (~Nigromant@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:06] and I rebuilding for yourself initrd.img [05:07] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-210-143.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [05:08] wertik_rus: so how would i install slack current with initrd.img? [05:08] no , initrd.img do not needing you [05:09] you need download slackware-current on you PC and make DVD [05:10] you can reading about here ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-current/isolinux/README.TXT [05:12] wertik_rus: where is that slackware-current.iso ? [05:12] you need making ISO yourself [05:12] mkisofs -o /tmp/slackware-dvd.iso \ [05:12] with this? [05:13] wait [05:13] mkisofs creating boot CD from folder , and you need download from Mirror current slackware [05:14] manhunter, ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-current/ [05:15] so? [05:15] what to do from there ? [05:17] downloaded all that's files [05:17] do i have to download all contents of those directory as well? [05:18] extra isolinux etc .. [05:18] ?? [05:19] you can not downloading extra , source [05:20] so you mean , i have to download only those starting with File: , right ? [05:21] ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-current/ [05:22] yes , only without source folder [05:23] brb , I need smoking [05:23] so i have to download all contents of all folders except the source folder, right ? [05:23] what to do next ? [05:23] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-59-43.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [05:24] vzoltan_ (~vela@dsl54027D21.pool.t-online.hu) left irc: Quit: Távozom [05:25] can anyone give a link for downloading slackware-current.iso , i want to download it [05:25] wertik_rus: i have slackware 13 dvd [05:26] manhunter: there is a script from alienBOB that downloads the right files and creates the .iso [05:26] Action: niels_horn is looking for a link to the script [05:27] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/tools/mirror-slackware-current.sh [05:27] alien scripts ) [05:28] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [05:29] zecafig (~zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) joined ##slackware. [05:29] i have not much space, [05:29] this slackware partition where i am on is only 5GB [05:30] so i can't run alienBOB script , right ? [05:33] manhunter: right... But then you can also not download a DVD iso [05:36] i can download iso from other pc [05:36] what's the size of that current iso? 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[05:52] alien bob has packages. search the internet [05:52] you ll need current first [05:55] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [05:56] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-59-43.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [05:59] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:00] ok [06:01] sahk0: if i use alienBOB script to have current , will it replace the slackware 13 with slackware current or it will make a slackware dvd iso in /tmp/ then if have to burn the slackware dvd iso to dvd , ? [06:01] Yes [06:02] You can also use slackpkg to upgrade your PC from Slackware 13.0 to -current using an internet mirror instead of creating your own DVD and installing -current from scratch [06:02] But having seen your posting hostory I strongly advise you not to try slackware-current [06:03] that's good, but it will take time, as poor bandwith [06:03] If you want to run -current you are expected to be able to fix things that break [06:03] ok, so slackware 13 is better for me [06:03] Because slackware-current is a _development_ release, it may not be stable [06:03] ok, [06:04] And if you want KDE 4.4 you will have no luck with Slackware 13.0 unless you grab all the KDE sources and compile it yourself [06:04] no way [06:05] FRSoldier (frsoldier@212.78.0.2) left irc: [06:05] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422030.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [06:06] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422030.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:06] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.94.165) joined ##slackware. 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[06:19] I want to know how to install JAVA [06:19] on linux [06:19] and use it on firefox [06:20] slackpkg search java [06:20] potato-ng [06:20] as root? [06:20] ye [06:22] Zordrak: you got the pam/netbackup thing figured out right? [06:22] and if I try ti as user [06:22] what if I try it as user [06:24] HaMpA (~kompaesf@88.86.50.38) joined ##slackware. [06:27] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: No route to host [06:27] packages (~manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:28] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [06:28] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-215-243.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:28] what if I try it as user [06:29] Emeau (~emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-32-226.w86-212.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[07:15] Action: Skaperen just didn't configure any swap space at all on his system that has 16GB RAM, and it runs fine [07:20] Skaperen: I have been tempted to do this... since soon as i need swap, my system is effectally locked... [07:20] Out of memory error would be netter [07:20] better [07:21] slaker (~slaker@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [07:21] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [07:23] cacti or nagios ? [07:26] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-29.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [07:30] goarilla: are you asking which is better? [07:31] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [07:33] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [07:34] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [07:34] The_ManU_212 (~manu@port-92-200-138-183.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [07:34] hi [07:34] Reaver1 (~Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [07:35] i wanted to compile the game armagetronad with slack 13.0 gcc is 4.3 but it wont compile with this environment, can u help? [07:35] it seems that it is too old for this gcc [07:36] The_ManU_212: side by side gcc is pretty messy... [07:36] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E5128.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [07:36] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:36] but can be done... [07:36] delt0r: hm and what to do? per haps tehre is somewhere a aptch or iam the only one who wnats to compile this game?^^ i can found only for gentoo something, odler version of the game [07:37] I just looked at the game... tron eh [07:37] well the last update was 2009 [07:37] MadneX (~MadneX@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [07:37] I would think it should work fine... [07:37] wow new iputils version [07:37] panzer (~panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) joined ##slackware. [07:38] Otherwise the easy way is to use a live cd distro with the right deps... [07:38] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E5128.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:38] slaker (~slaker@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:39] The_ManU_212: what is the error you get when you complie? [07:39] yes niels_horn [07:40] goarilla: I use both... [07:40] delt0r: http://www.pastebin.com/d7b04db38 [07:40] goarilla: nagios is nice for monitoring + alerting (e-mail, sms, etc.) [07:40] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [07:41] and cacti is nice for graphs [07:41] goarilla: cacti can show graphs of i/o, disk space, etc [07:41] network volume ? [07:41] nagios = how is my system / network NOW [07:42] aah cacti is for study over a long period of time [07:42] cacti shows graphs for today, last week, last month, last year [07:42] goarilla: extactly :) [07:42] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:42] is it wise to run them both at the same time [07:42] goarilla: That's what I do :) [07:42] or do they just read proc for the most part [07:43] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [07:43] both are very light. I run both on an old P3 600MHz box and CPU time never goes above 5% [07:43] Nick change: sirslacker -> sirslacker|busy [07:43] ntop is a monster, melts your CPU [07:44] The_ManU_212: Now i remeber why i don't do much c/c++ these days [07:44] Sorry i can't be much help [07:44] goarilla: yes, lots of proc reading in the scripts [07:45] but also snmp and an agent for nagios with plugins [07:45] and everything available on slackbuilds.org :) [07:45] delt0r: can u show me the current sourcecode, eprhaps i ahve a too old version? [07:45] cool [07:45] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:46] delt0r: here's a reason to not do C ... try compiling and running this small sample code ... http://phil.ipal.org/c/intdiv.c [07:47] The_ManU_212, looks like you need to add #include in one of those files [07:47] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [07:47] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [07:48] dive: in which files? [07:48] uh ... for memset() you need [07:48] i think 0.2.8.2.1 is the newest evrsion? [07:49] delt0r (~delt0r@80-123-61-14.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:49] Skaperen: why ? what does it do [07:49] goarilla: what does string.h do or what does memset do? [07:49] dividing an int with an unsigned int [07:49] no what does that small c file do [07:49] give crazy results prob [07:50] goarilla: divides a signed int by an unsigned int ... with ALL values within range of both types [07:50] it'll give -42.. als result no [07:50] goarilla: the catch is that C's rules force a type conversion that is "unnatural" for this case [07:51] dive: can u tell me how to change it to compile the game? [07:52] goarilla: a decent C programmer would know to not mix signed and unsigned ... but ... later on someone might see that some variable which is signed never has negative values and change it to unsigned, and get no compile errors and think it is OK [07:52] uh yeah string.h sorry [07:53] The_ManU_212, look at engine/eAdvWall.cpp perhaps for #include lines [07:53] goarilla: C has so many pitfalls ... getting to be an experienced C programmer means falling into many of them along the way [07:54] dive: there is not sucha fodler/file?! [07:54] amazingly, assembly language has fewer pitfalls ... for example no machine I've ever seen has CPU instructions that mix signed and unsigned ... so that pitfall isn't there [07:54] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [07:55] sirslacker|busy (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:56] wow the result was even more suprising [07:58] odd ... mac os version of gdb doesn't know the layout commands [08:01] Axius (~fd@109.97.44.140) joined ##slackware. [08:02] The_ManU_212, try this - it seems to be newer: http://sourceforge.net/projects/armagetronad/files/armagetronad-testing/0.3.0/armagetronad-0.3.0.src.tar.gz/download [08:02] hello [08:02] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [08:03] goarilla: and the result will vary depending on size of int [08:03] dive: ah how did u find that on the websit there is the 0.2.8 the newest version... [08:03] thx u! [08:03] on the sf page [08:03] delt0r (~delt0r@62-47-151-48.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [08:03] goarilla: and yet, this is the correct result when complying with C99 standard [08:04] The_ManU_212, it's beta so there might be bugs in it [08:05] if that doesn't work try the .package binary perhaps [08:05] freaky [08:06] Zosma (jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:06] Axius (~fd@109.97.44.140) left irc: Client Quit [08:06] brbrbr (~Basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:06] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [08:07] Axius (~fd@109.97.44.140) joined ##slackware. [08:07] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:10] i expected gcc to return some warnings tho when compiling that [08:10] Axius (~fd@109.97.44.140) left irc: Client Quit [08:11] like dividing mixed types forces type conversion to lowest denominator or something like that [08:12] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [08:12] brbrbr (~Basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [08:12] MadneX (~MadneX@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:12] MReimer_ (~chatzilla@p4FD481D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [08:14] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [08:18] manhunter (~manhunter@113.11.36.106) joined ##slackware. [08:18] helow, [08:18] dive: hi [08:18] dive: the profile picture from LQ forum , is it your picture? [08:19] Zosma (jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [08:20] yes, why? [08:21] beard man ? [08:21] 46 years of age ? [08:22] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.226) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [08:23] Anyone any idea to inspect a system crash when nothing useful turned up in the logs? [08:23] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@64.238.225.45) joined ##slackware. [08:23] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [08:23] dive: good [08:23] dive: dive into sea [08:25] dive: but the profile picture looks older than a man of 46 years of age [08:26] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-37-141.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:28] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-110-209.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:28] ... [08:28] slava_dp (~slava@195-248-167-186.static.vega-ua.net) joined ##slackware. [08:28] dive: are you diving into sea ? [08:28] good [08:28] bye [08:28] manhunter (~manhunter@113.11.36.106) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:29] brbrbr (~Basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:30] dive: you found yourself a stalker [08:31] yeah [08:31] i lol'ed at the noobfarm quote about stalkers yesterday :D [08:31] Zosma, kernel dumps? [08:32] lol i have to check noobfarm now [08:32] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-110-209.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:33] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-61-147.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:33] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@188.4.43.98.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:33] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [08:33] hahha [08:34] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:34] slava_dp: that was a good one [08:34] slaker (~slaker@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [08:36] guax: yeah but I don't think anything got dumped. [08:36] Action: slava_dp just read slaker as stalker o_O [08:36] guax: does the stock Slackware kernel dump panics? [08:36] they used to [08:37] since i got no crashes anymore =P its hard to tell [08:37] :-) [08:37] Where should they turn up anyway? [08:39] Nick change: The_ManU_212 -> The_ManU_212_afk [08:39] Nick change: The_ManU_212_afk -> The_ManU_212 [08:39] zecafig (~zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) left irc: Quit: RED PILL OR DIE! [08:41] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [08:42] jfo (~jfo@109.97.44.140) joined ##slackware. [08:44] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [08:47] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) joined ##slackware. [08:47] ArTourter (~artourter@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:49] hohoxnes (~bdbash@118.112.204.84) joined ##slackware. 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[09:00] Zosma (jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:00] dive,kdelibs-3.5.10 only have kpty.h,but no libkpty.so. That's strange [09:01] well I'm using kde 4.3.1 so it's probably changed [09:01] no idea for 3.5 [09:01] Thank you anyway [09:02] you on 12.2? [09:02] dive: hm now the problem are missed ftgl headers in conigure, i allready installed the apckage and mentioned the path manually but it doesnt help [09:02] I belive I'm in slackware 12.0 [09:02] hohoxnes: cat /etc/slackware-version [09:02] I belive I'm in slackware 13.0. sorry for typo [09:02] Axius (~fd@109.97.44.140) joined ##slackware. [09:03] well slack 13.0 should come with kde 4 so you seem to be half and half [09:03] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@188.4.43.98.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:03] ArTourter (~artourter@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:03] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@188.4.76.3.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:04] The_ManU_212, why don't you grab the binary .package and use that? [09:05] sh xxx.package [09:05] I can't find my Slackware 13.0 DVD, that's the pain in the a** [09:05] hohoxnes, slackpkg? [09:06] eh, my Internet connection to Euopre is very slow. [09:06] dive: i want to build a package [09:06] and then i want to compile if im allready building one [09:07] Zosma (jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:09] The_ManU_212, how did you install ftgl? [09:10] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [09:10] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@188.4.76.3.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:11] dive: package, slackpkg [09:12] dive: [09:12] $ locate ftgl | grep include [09:12] /usr/include/FTGL/ftgl.h [09:12] Channel flood from The_ManU_212 -- kicking [09:12] /usr/include/freetype2/freetype/ftglyph.h [09:12] The_ManU_212 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [09:12] The_ManU_212 (~manu@port-92-200-138-183.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [09:13] how can I make the terminal visible? it stays open for a few secounds and then disppears. what can I do? I use fluxbox de. [09:14] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) joined ##slackware. [09:14] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:15] The_ManU_212, and what is the configure line you are using? [09:17] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:17] john_dee (~id@95-29-13-106.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:17] Axius, which terminal? [09:17] Axius,are you switch to another desktop [09:17] greetings and salutations [09:18] hi john_dee [09:18] dive: ./configure --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib$LIBDIRSUFFIX --mandir=$manpath --infodir=$infopath --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --with-ftgl=/usr/include/FTGL/ --program-prefix="" --program-suffix="" $gcctarget | tee $CWD/CONFIGURE.log || exit 1 [09:18] xterm [09:18] Axius, do any other terms work? [09:19] no [09:19] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [09:19] in other window managers? [09:20] I only have fluxbox installed? [09:20] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [09:21] jfo (~jfo@109.97.44.140) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:21] well you may find the error printed in vt1 [09:22] The_ManU_212, does it make any difference without the ending / in =/usr/include/FTGL [09:23] dive: no [09:23] nick4b (~nick4b@79.103.4.10.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:23] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.209.28) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:25] thank you dive,I download a newer kdelibs ,and problem fixed [09:25] np [09:25] garme (~garme@187.79.111.97) joined ##slackware. [09:26] How can I edit the system startup file to boot directly into graphic mode? [09:27] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [09:28] Axius, edit /etc/inittab to say id:4:initdefault: [09:28] slaker (~slaker@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:29] dive: ok, thanks. [09:31] floogle [09:34] dunix (~dguitar@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. [09:35] The_ManU_212, it has the same problem here. I would suggest trying their forum since it looks like either a bug in ftgl or megatron [09:36] neonflux (~neonflux@75.140.153.197) joined ##slackware. [09:37] Axius (~fd@109.97.44.140) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [09:42] dive: can u compile the stable evrsion? [09:43] hey manu [09:43] you figure out your shutdown problem? 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[10:09] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-59-6.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:10] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:10] jhell (~89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) joined ##slackware. [10:14] garme (~garme@187.79.58.144) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:15] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422030.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [10:15] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422030.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:16] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:18] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.33.136) joined ##slackware. [10:20] garme (~garme@187.79.106.92) joined ##slackware. [10:21] manhunter (~manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter) joined ##slackware. [10:21] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [10:21] hello guys [10:22] hi [10:22] am i the dependency checker for slacker? [10:22] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [10:22] slackware [10:22] whAT? [10:23] is there any dependency package for slackware? [10:23] Nick change: manhunter -> packages [10:23] The_ManU_212, http://slackadelic.pastebin.com/f3f190cf8 here is a patch that works on 0.2.8 [10:23] hi [10:23] madbear: no. [10:23] Action: packages diving into sea [10:24] Action: packages need cannon camera [10:24] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [10:24] packages, yes! it is you [10:24] MReimer_ (~chatzilla@p4FD481D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.1/20091218133539] [10:24] dive: cool! have u written it completly new? [10:24] yes [10:25] packages: you can get slapt-get (gslapts is the front end) but it is extremely limited and can be very unsafe to use. [10:25] dive: whats the patch for? [10:25] copy into source directory and do 'patch -p1 < armagetronad.patch' [10:25] ohhh [10:25] armagetronad game [10:25] thrice`: am i really? [10:25] packages: open your ears! [10:25] thrice`: do i have to check the dependency ? [10:26] dive: what does the patch do? [10:26] are you serious, or trolling packages ? [10:26] Cann0n, there were lots of #includes missing for gcc 4.x [10:26] thrice`: i am serious and i want to ask you something, and you will not lie [10:26] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-57-112.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [10:27] will you [10:27] ? [10:27] Axius (~fd@92.84.20.241) joined ##slackware. [10:27] thrice`, guess which [10:27] mmm [10:27] packages (~manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:27] hehe [10:28] Cann0n: talking to me!! punk! :P [10:28] madbear: Hiya! what's crackening? [10:29] Cann0n: u miss-highlighted me :/ .. thought someone actually talked to me [10:29] oh, my bad. lol [10:29] rst86 (~rst86@113.11.36.106) joined ##slackware. [10:29] tab failed. lol [10:29] rst86 (~rst86@113.11.36.106) left irc: Client Quit [10:29] hehe now i have to read the million lines ive missed .. :) [10:30] where is packages? I was enjoying the company of someone "stupider" than me. :) [10:30] pireau (1000@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) joined ##slackware. [10:30] madbear: you missed a retard trying to troll or something. [10:31] 2nd time too [10:31] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-57-112.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:31] made some comments about my age and profile pic on LQ [10:31] he came in last night thinking he had a cool nick name... bwa ha ha ha [10:31] im trying to scroll there [10:31] usr_local (~usr_local@c-24-98-137-201.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:32] dive now i have to scroll for your pic to [10:34] hello [10:34] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.33.136) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:34] Axius, fix it yet? [10:34] howdy [10:34] Hey. Axius did you get youc X working? [10:34] s/youc/your [10:35] Cann0n: yes, I did fluxbox working. [10:35] xterm? [10:35] garme (~garme@187.79.106.92) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:35] I got some mods for fluxbox I will post later. I need to install it with imlib2 support [10:36] dive: xterm is working too. [10:36] Cann0n, what sort of mods? [10:37] i re-designed the menu structure [10:37] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:37] you mean you edit the menu file? [10:38] s/edit/edited/ [10:38] half-ass integrated some scripts that controlled gtk and/or qt themeing [10:38] no lol. i tore it up [10:38] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [10:38] usr_local (~usr_local@c-24-98-137-201.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: OUCH! Dammit! [10:38] ~/.fluxbox/menu/ has about 24 files it in [10:38] s/it in/in it [10:39] I also tried to get a "recently used" working but I just couldn't do it. [10:39] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:40] I also tri also went through and added icons to every entry in the menu [10:41] garme (~garme@187.79.74.96) joined ##slackware. [10:41] dive: thx u very much, i'll try now to compile [10:41] s/I also tri/I [10:41] Axius (~fd@92.84.20.241) left irc: Quit: Changing server [10:42] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [10:42] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Client Quit [10:44] hey manu [10:44] garme (~garme@187.79.74.96) left irc: Client Quit [10:46] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) joined ##slackware. [10:46] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-220-34.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [10:46] hohoxnes (~bdbash@118.112.204.84) left irc: [10:50] GooseYArd: its quite clear he doesnt want to talk to you. stop harassing him please [10:51] ill harass you now [10:52] :p [10:52] :) [10:52] lol [10:54] Xaviertoor (~xaviertoo@189.52.126.232) joined ##slackware. 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[11:07] Nick change: rg3 -> brianL [11:08] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-220-34.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [11:08] Nick change: brianL -> rg3 [11:09] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422030.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [11:09] slaker (~slaker@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [11:09] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Client Quit [11:09] Xaviertoor (~xaviertoo@189.52.126.232) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:10] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422030.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:10] Azeotrope (1000@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:11] how can I upgrade specific programs in a fresh slackware install? [11:11] for example pidgin [11:12] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:12] ex ubuntu user here, apt-get syndrome [11:12] greetings and salutations all [11:12] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:12] Azeotrope: are you familiar with slackpkg? [11:12] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [11:13] GooseYArd, not really. [11:14] Azeotrope: use "upgradepkg" [11:14] thats probably your best bet, its the closest analog to apt-get [11:14] ok. thanks. what about slapt-get? [11:15] Intel_BG (~intel@95.43.12.3) joined ##slackware. [11:16] grazymax (~grazymax@host114-96-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [11:16] whats that? [11:16] is there any kind of repository that will aid me to install software updates? [11:17] dive: [11:17] patch unexpectedly ends in middle of line [11:17] patch: **** Only garbage was found in the patch input. [11:17] hm i amde something wrong i believe [11:17] The_ManU_212: how do you call "patch"? [11:17] Azeotrope: yes, patches/ in any Slackware mirror. [11:17] And slackpkg takes care of upgrading any *official* Slackware package [11:17] doing it with slackpkg is the easiest way [11:18] The_ManU_212, maybe if you copy and pasted it [11:18] dive: patch -p1 < armagetronad-${VERSION}-gcc43.patch [11:18] i call it with my build script [11:19] any compiz-fusion look-a-like for KDE and Slackware? [11:19] The_ManU_212, did you copy it from the top or bottom half of that link? [11:19] Azeotrope, update slackware with official patches/upgrades -> slackpkg; any addon packages -> slackbuilds.org or slackpkg. [11:19] Azeotrope, you can use kde4 effects, they are similar to compiz. [11:19] dive: first top, then half [11:20] hmm [11:20] slava_dp, OK. thank oyu [11:20] Azeotrope, i meant "sbopkg", as in the last word [11:21] The_ManU_212, wget http://www.unrealize.co.uk/source/armagetronad.patch [11:22] question. ubuntu has dozens of updates every week. does slackware have those too? what about kernels? do they install automatically or the user has to compile it ? [11:23] updating is as simple as apt-get update? [11:23] dive: it differs from the 0.2.7 patch, perhaps the path in it? [11:24] The_ManU_212, doing this from a slackbuild script you just need to cd into source dir then 'patch -p1 < $CWD/xxxx.patch' [11:24] for example, can i install an app (irssi) and all its dependencies with a line like apt-get install irssi ? [11:24] Azeotrope: read the slackbook.org & also search the internet for "beginlinux slackware package management" [11:24] irssi is part of Slackware [11:24] you should already have it installed [11:25] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-209-223.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [11:25] raw__ (raw@isafailure.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:25] nice, schroot seems to work with openpam with very little hackage [11:25] dive: now it works [11:25] ok [11:26] dive: what could be the differnce copying it from pastbin beginning at the half in editable textfield [11:26] line breaks I expect [11:26] copying from web pages sometimes fails [11:27] sahk0, ok, virtualbox then... or tor or any other app that doesn't get installed by default [11:28] Azeotrope, slackware only has security updates to existing releases. if a security hole is found in the kernel, there will be a new kernel package. slackpkg will take care of all the updates. [11:28] Azeotrope, http:/sbopkg.org [11:28] Azeotrope, slackbuilds.org too [11:28] for what is *not* part of slackware. [11:29] manhunter (~manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter) joined ##slackware. [11:30] Azeotrope: search the internet for "beginlinux slackware package management" read the article [11:30] dive: pastebin ignores @@ at the beginning thatw as teh reason [11:30] glarb (1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:30] well, i hope using slackware will improve my skills in linux [11:30] k [11:31] nick4b (~nick4b@79.103.4.10.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:31] so far it seems a little plain to me.. no graphics, no cool effects [11:31] hi [11:31] and kinda old [11:31] what does ./configure do? [11:31] thats good, you can concentrate on unix [11:31] :) [11:31] no graphics? [11:31] startx [11:32] Intel_BG (intel@95.43.12.3) left ##slackware. [11:32] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-209-223.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:32] xwmconfig first perhaps [11:32] dive, i know. no graphics as in no cool effects [11:32] then choose your poispn [11:33] what does ./configure do? [11:33] well kde 4 has some [11:33] make && make install [11:33] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Quit: /etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start [11:33] Azeotrope, turn on cool kde 4 effects. [11:33] grazymax (~grazymax@host106-134-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:33] what's the difference between make and cmake , there is no ./configure here http://alien.slackbook.org/ktown/4.4.0/source/kde/kdeadmin/kdeadmin.SlackBuild [11:34] gotta install an accelerated video driver first.... [11:34] i'm trying to understand a slackbuild [11:34] i want to make my own slackbuild [11:34] manhunter, no, you don't. [11:34] please don't. [11:34] manhunter: make is gnu make, cmake is a different build system [11:34] slava_dp, yea.. about graphic drivers. where can i get em? [11:34] which card? [11:34] Azeotrope, intel, nvidia, ati? [11:35] slava_dp: why? [11:35] ./configure is an element of gnu autoconf, cmake based builds arent likely to use it [11:35] nvidia [11:35] Azeotrope, nvidia.com/object/unix [11:35] can either get them from nvidia.com or install via sbopkg [11:35] if my memory serves me right [11:36] you will need a 4-line xorg.conf to make use of the proprietary driver. [11:36] Nick change: manhunter -> packages [11:36] slava_dp: what was the prob? [11:36] is it a profanity if i put a ubuntu desktop on a slackware install? [11:37] gnome? [11:37] Azeotrope, after you install the nvidia driver, use this: http://codepad.org/j7tRX1hN [11:37] Azeotrope: its your machine, do whatever you want [11:38] slava_dp, thanks [11:38] Azeotrope, some people use gnomeslackbuild (gsb) and others dropline gnome for slackware [11:38] if you *really* must have it [11:39] but it would be easier to get to like kde or one of the other included de's [11:39] gnome is lame, use kde, you'll like it. [11:39] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.13.155) joined ##slackware. [11:39] yea, i don't disklike kde. i just have to get used to it [11:40] my problem in slackware is installing software and dependencies [11:41] slava_dp: gnome is not lame [11:41] its not the best desktop around [11:41] slava_dp: and lame is a good package for mp3 support [11:41] :) [11:42] ardya: why? [11:42] gnome is slowly dieing from the inside. [11:42] packages: lack of packages [11:42] which package do you need? [11:42] "it" being slackware, not gnome vs kde [11:42] dunix: what do you mean? be descriptive please [11:43] ardya: ubuntu is with gnome [11:43] and? [11:43] There is a major rift between developers that is growing and growing. It will soon become like Xorg has IMHO [11:43] ardya: and it's going on well [11:43] thats nice [11:43] Nick change: The_ManU_212 -> The_ManU_212_afk [11:44] there hasnt been an open source project that didnt have non-stop strife [11:45] Of course [11:45] i need somekind of system info monitor. i had this sysinfo plus for gnome, it was very cute, allmost text and just a few tiny icons [11:45] any idea? [11:45] mysql is a great example heh [11:45] Azeotrope, conky? [11:46] or maybe a kde plasmoid [11:46] is anyone here under 22 years of age ? [11:46] seems slackwers are older [11:47] dive is 46 years of age [11:47] slackers [11:47] Action: andarius is 5 :P [11:47] any young slacker [11:47] ? [11:47] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:47] I've been using slackware since before i was 22... does that count? [11:47] it's saturday, <22 yeard old are out searching for some pu.. entertainment [11:48] dunix: that counts, surely [11:48] dive, conky looks like it except mine had some info as: currency, weather, ifaces, processes [11:49] you may be able to add some things like that it via scripts [11:49] Chowder__ (~Anon@c-98-211-211-147.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:49] there are some really cool weather scripts out there for conky [11:49] sed: -e expression #1, char 0: no previous regular expression [11:49] °C, unknown. [11:49] hah [11:49] grazymax (~grazymax@host106-134-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:49] weather fail [11:50] nice one ;-) [11:50] server is down or sth [11:50] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.13.155) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:50] TS (~Guest718@208.69.211.196) joined ##slackware. [11:50] and a docking menu, like osx one? [11:50] hi all. I'm a bit confused about doing a network install. Do I just specify the IP of the server or is there something else I have to do? [11:50] I want to add a remote desktop functionnality to my computer (I need to run a few gtk apps and want to check them remotely), any advice: rdp? vnc? the-other-one-which-name-I've-forgotten? [11:50] Nick change: TS -> TS1 [11:51] I don't need much [11:51] hey im a new linux user and would like to give slackware a try but i cannot seem to find the instillation disk download, can someone ive me the link for the latest version please? [11:52] Azeotrope, i believe cairo has a slackbuild [11:52] Chowder__, yes ip and path [11:52] TS1: its on the site. Check out the getslack link. Install disk 1 sets up a minimal install. To install other package sets you'll need other disks or a network install [11:52] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [11:52] http://slackware.com/getslack/ [11:53] ? °C, unknown. [11:53] dive: so if I'm going to install slackware 13.0 I'd specify where on the server it is? I.e. pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/ [11:53] Chowder__: My friend once gave me a link that had the full install and at one point you got to choose the desktop environment you wanted to install, what is this disk called/ [11:53] fixed [11:53] the DVD [11:53] Chowder__, yes something like that but I forget exactly without running setup and reading [11:53] it should say [11:54] alright, thanks a lot. I'm going to give it a shot. [11:54] andarius: and where is this DVD on the getslack page? I cant seem to find it [11:54] Chowder__ (~Anon@c-98-211-211-147.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:54] Chowder__: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:pxe [11:55] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-71-12.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:55] TS1, you need to check out a few servers on that page. Some have the dvd, some don't. [11:55] dive: ok in what general directory should it be in? [11:56] Azeotrope (1000@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:56] slackware-13.0-iso/ [11:56] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-71-12.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:56] dive: ok ill check that out thanks [11:56] TS1: I'd go for the torrent files listed on slackware.com [11:57] yeah try a torrent too [11:57] torrents are fast and very reliable [11:57] Nick change: The_ManU_212_afk -> The_ManU_212 [11:57] oh i see the VD torrent very nice [11:58] DVD* [11:58] ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0-iso/slackware-13.0-install-dvd.iso [11:58] that one has dvd [11:58] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.214.4) joined ##slackware. [11:58] thanks dive :P [11:59] garme (~garme@187.79.53.144) joined ##slackware. [11:59] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Quit: /etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start [11:59] well thanks everyone [11:59] have a good day [11:59] TS1 (~Guest718@208.69.211.196) left irc: Quit: PJIRC forever! 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[12:17] dive: btw do u know how to get sound out of a nvidia ck804 soundchip? i asked sevral times here in nvidia, #alsa but we couldnt get it working [12:18] nope [12:19] Nick change: Sasha___ -> Grapefruit [12:21] slava_dp (~slava@195-248-167-186.static.vega-ua.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:21] slava_dp (~slava@195-248-167-186.static.vega-ua.net) joined ##slackware. [12:22] glarb (1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:24] The_ManU_212, you fallow the steps to make any driver work, check for compactibility, kernel support, kernel module, configuration (Alsaconf, etc) [12:26] garme (~garme@187.79.53.144) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:27] slava_dp (~slava@195-248-167-186.static.vega-ua.net) left irc: Quit: ^D [12:27] slava_dp (~slava@195-248-167-186.static.vega-ua.net) joined ##slackware. [12:28] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [12:29] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [12:30] Nick change: The_ManU_212 -> The_ManU_212_afk [12:30] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [12:30] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:31] Nick change: The_ManU_212_afk -> The_ManU_212 [12:31] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-221-29.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:31] guax: its all ok there seems only to be some bug in the configs to recognize it correctly as i found out in google [12:33] hello [12:35] Emeau (~emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-32-226.w86-212.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:39] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:40] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422030.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [12:41] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.35.66) joined ##slackware. [12:41] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422030.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:42] I have a sony PCG - 505TS Notebook, and I have taken it apart, and put a new hard drive in it. I am trying to get something usable on a hard drive to put back inside, because there is no way to boot from anything other than the HD on this notebook. I attempted to put slackware on a hd and hoped that it would boot, but there was an error saying that the kernal was incompatible with the hardware. Can anyone offer some advice on how [12:42] jhell (~89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) left irc: Quit: Command not found [12:43] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:43] AEnima1577: does the install have the huge kernel? [12:43] AEnima1577: u cant even boot from usb? [12:43] nope, the hardware does not support the usb boot [12:44] i took the hd out of an IBM thinkpad, and I went with the default kernal that would get installed to a harddrive inside that computer [12:44] brokedown, im trying to avoid, reinstalling slack until i randomly choose the right kernal, do you think just choosing the smallest kernal would be a good choise? [12:45] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:45] AEnima1577: the huge kernel should support most everything [12:45] AcEg33k (~prashant@122.172.19.86) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:45] Azeotrope (1000@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [12:46] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [12:47] hitest (~chatzilla@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [12:47] ok, brokedown, i will give the huge kernel a try, and report back in a few hours [12:48] AEnima1577: good luck [12:48] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [12:49] hitest (~chatzilla@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:51] nvidia drivers on slackbuilds are 190.42 and on nvidia.org 190.53 [12:51] wich one do i install? [12:51] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [12:52] i have a xorg.conf-vesa file [12:53] where is the xorg.conf ? [12:53] create it [12:53] jfo (~jfo@92.84.19.100) joined ##slackware. [12:54] did you read the slackbook? [12:54] SlashQu1t (~Slash@c-76-25-54-227.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:54] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [12:54] nope [12:55] why is slack so hard [12:55] it isn't [12:55] cause you are being lazy [12:55] if you read the support documentation [12:55] it's so hard. omg [12:56] harder than diamonds. [12:56] slackware is actually pretty easy. [12:56] antiwire: that's what she said ;) [12:56] lol [12:56] hello [12:56] heh [12:57] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422030.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [12:58] I followed the UPGRADE.TXT in -current, checked lilo.conf, ran lilo -v ... looked good. Bootup fails "VFS: Cannot open root device "343" or unknown-block(3,67)" ... line in lilo.conf says root=/dev/hdb3, and I've tried passing this at the boot prompt, same error. With an initrd it does a similar thing, but drops to a shell, errors about the /mnt failed, no such file or directory. Any tips? [12:58] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422030.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:58] Azeotrope, slackware is not hard at all. [12:58] SlashQu1t: RTFM: ChangeLog.txt [12:58] grazymax (~grazymax@host158-156-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:59] If you're gonna run -current, reading the ChangeLog is mandatory. UPGRADE.TXT and CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT aren't necessarily kept up-to-date until the actual release. [12:59] d'oh, k thx. [12:59] Azeotrope, you got to expect a learning curve, it's no ubuntu. [13:00] nick4b (~nick4b@79.103.4.10.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:00] BP{k}: Now how would you know she said that? Are you bugging my house?! [13:00] Azeotrope (1000@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:00] Alan_Hicks: well d'oh. Remind you to pay you royalties for all those 'homemade' dvds I sold. ;) [13:00] alphad_ (~alphad@41.207.31.156) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:00] alphad (~quassel@41.207.31.156) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:01] BP{k}: Consider yourself reminded. I'm expecting a monthly check now. [13:01] it's in the mail. [13:01] mohaa (~nome@92.49.78.208) joined ##slackware. [13:01] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@64.238.225.45) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [13:02] |slackin| (~slackin@50.234.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:03] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.193) joined ##slackware. [13:03] Ah ha, no mode /dev/hd* ... they're all /dev/sd*... thx! [13:03] <|slackin|> hey [13:03] <|slackin|> i got a wierd question [13:03] <|slackin|> and ive googled the hell outta it [13:03] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:03] <|slackin|> and i cant find ANYTHING on it helpful [13:04] <|slackin|> midnight commander works for a while then it wont start, like it starts to load then just locks up, if i reboot the computer it works again, i tried "rm -Rf /tmp/mc-username" and "rm -Rf ~/.mc" [13:04] <|slackin|> and niether help [13:05] SlashQu1t: Yeap. [13:05] <|slackin|> i dont have a monitor on this machine and its a router/file server so like, this is REALLY annoying having to reboot the computer [13:05] <|slackin|> i dont get it [13:05] |slackin|: do you use a UTF-8 locale? [13:06] Azeotrope (1000@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [13:06] <|slackin|> idk [13:06] <|slackin|> how do i find out [13:06] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [13:06] Naraku (~supergear@74-93-226-26-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [13:06] echo $LANG [13:06] What should I do to make the menu disappear after I open a program? i use fluxbox. [13:06] <|slackin|> en_US [13:07] it hangs on the screen. [13:10] <|slackin|> any ideas? [13:11] don't use mc? [13:11] <|slackin|> that would suck [13:11] <|slackin|> i like mc [13:11] jfo (~jfo@92.84.19.100) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:11] <|slackin|> i dont understand why it would lock up [13:12] <|slackin|> never had this problem in any other version of slackware [13:12] <|slackin|> what really gets me is why does it work for a while [13:12] <|slackin|> then just BAM im gonna lock up [13:12] reinstall an mc package from slackware 12.2 or any other one you had working [13:12] <|slackin|> i guess i could try that [13:14] or get one from -current if there was an update [13:15] <|slackin|> now thats an idea [13:15] <|slackin|> im gonna go check [13:16] how do i update pidgin? [13:16] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [13:17] Azeotrope, slackpkg update; slackpkg upgrade-all [13:17] i have an xml file with line 9: [...]text[...] how can i get with a shell the content between and in line 9, the text length differs daily [13:17] thx u for help [13:17] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-223-225-25.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [13:18] Axius (~fd@92.84.19.100) joined ##slackware. [13:18] slava_dp, i have slackware64 and i only uncommented mirrors for slackware64 [13:18] <|slackin|> slava_dp, lol, i did -V and it doesnt know what version it is [13:18] i did a slackpkg update [13:18] <|slackin|> im gonna grab the latest source strait frommc [13:18] |slackin|, ls /var/log/packages/mc* [13:18] <|slackin|> tru [13:19] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.94.165) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:19] Azeotrope, the latest pidgin in slackware is 2.6.5 [13:19] slava and i have 2.5.9 [13:19] ok, slackpkg upgrade worked [13:22] The_ManU_212, with sed, sed -n 's/.*\(.*\)<\tag>/\1/' file [13:22] err [13:23] The_ManU_212, with sed, sed -n 's/.*\(.*\)<\tag>.*/\1/' file [13:23] zounds (~zounds@80.85.119.158) joined ##slackware. [13:28] Nick change: The_ManU_212 -> The_ManU_212_afk [13:28] |slackin| (~slackin@50.234.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:28] back in a bit, hopefully on -current. Wish me cheese and luck! 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[13:40] sahk0: do I have to make that file or is already make? [13:40] what is the difference between me installing aps from source and using slackbuilds? [13:41] slackbuilds are easy to install [13:41] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [13:41] i mean, *uninstall [13:41] Axius: i gave you a hint on how to do it. search the internet and accomplish it yourself [13:41] hmmm [13:41] sahk0: ok. [13:43] jiraia (~jiraia@189.31.9.9) joined ##slackware. [13:45] Grapefruit (d876992d@gateway/web/freenode/x-synmyobjxjdlxelj) left ##slackware. [13:47] Azeotrope (1000@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:48] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:48] neonflux (~neonflux@75.140.153.197) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:51] adam (~adam@67.48.25.162) joined ##slackware. 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[14:00] yep [14:00] <|slackin|> right on [14:00] I'm down in Miami [14:00] <|slackin|> what part of miami [14:00] <|slackin|> anywhere near the grove? [14:00] nah, I'm closer to Miami Lakes [14:01] Say hello to Michael Westin for me. [14:01] <|slackin|> tru [14:01] <|slackin|> Alan_Hicks, lol [14:01] <|slackin|> speaking of [14:01] <|slackin|> i never finished watching the latest episode [14:01] I'm actually part of my university's LUG [14:01] |slackin|: You got 'em recorded? [14:01] (FIU) [14:01] <|slackin|> alan, yeppers [14:01] Then I won't spoil it for ya. [14:02] <|slackin|> ty ;] [14:02] we're going to work on a Beowulf cluster to make compiling faster [14:02] goarilla (~goarilla@unaffiliated/goarilla) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:03] I suggested using DragonFly BSD for the master node [14:03] Whatever happened to clustering anyhow? Five, ten years ago that was the big thing, now you never hear anyone talking about it. [14:03] eviljames (~james@96.49.81.107) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:03] but since its a LUG no one wants to use DragonFly BSD [14:04] people still use clusters but its just that the big thing is now cloud computing [14:05] Axius (~fd@92.84.19.100) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:06] No, you don't understand me. [14:06] sarkoman (~sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: Read error: No route to host [14:06] Sure, big businesses spend butt-loads of money to build clusters or clouds, but individual geeks aren't doing that. [14:06] well they are at my university :) [14:07] apparently there's already a beowulf cluster at my uni but the LUG wants one to call their own. [14:07] It just sorta faded out, I guess as CPUs got more powerful there was less need. [14:07] pretty much [14:08] but its still really cool to be able to say "I helped set up a cluster" [14:09] I was actually gonna do one at home and allow others to SSH into it and get work done [14:09] but I don't have the space [14:11] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-56-58.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [14:11] spiko (1000@89-212-140-150.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:13] SlashQuit (~SlashQuit@c-76-25-54-227.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:13] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:13] wewt, on -current. (Thanks for info Alan_Hicks) [14:14] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: ... [14:14] <|slackin|> BAAAAAAAAAAAAAH [14:15] jiraia (~jiraia@189.31.9.9) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [14:15] <|slackin|> i cant use slackpkg [14:15] <|slackin|> cause ncurses aint working! [14:15] <|slackin|> GAH [14:15] So fix it? [14:15] <|slackin|> alienBOB, i was gonna use slackpkg to upgrade ncurses to fix ncurses [14:15] <|slackin|> so i guess i have to do it the hard ware [14:15] <|slackin|> way [14:15] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:17] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [14:17] Just use upgradepkg |slackin| [14:17] <|slackin|> didknow that existed [14:17] <|slackin|> ty [14:18] Gah... [14:18] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [14:18] Nick change: The_ManU_212_afk -> The_ManU_212 [14:19] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-183-121.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:20] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-183-121.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:20] Hmm, booted to vmlinuz-huge-smp-2.6.32.7-smp .. but uname doesn't say 'smp', and recompiling vbox complains that /usr/src/linux is 'smp' but currently running kernel is not. [14:21] <|slackin|> alienBOB, i dont normally use package tools at all, normally i use source [14:21] You should make yourself familiar with the slackware toolkit then [14:22] That time is never lost [14:26] SlashQuit (~SlashQuit@c-76-25-54-227.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: brb, kernel switch. [14:26] The kernel line on my grub's menu.lst is: kernel (hd0,3)/vmlinuz-generic-smp-2.6.29.6-smp root=/dev/hda4 ro quiet [14:26] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-183-121.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:26] shouldn't it be kernel (hd0,3)/boot/vmlinuz-generic-smp-2.6.29.6-smp root=/dev/hda4 ro quiet [14:26] or does it automatically look in /boot for the kernel? [14:26] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-183-121.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:26] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:28] i think slackware's grub comes with a grubconfig script. that might help you [14:28] sahk0: I'm not using slackware's grub, though [14:29] I'm using Grub 0.97, i.e. Grub Legacy [14:29] I'm dualbooting Grub with Ubuntu 9.04 [14:29] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:30] not many people use grub around here [14:30] Naraku (~supergear@74-93-226-26-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:31] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: She talks to angels, says they call her out by name. [14:32] goarilla (~goarilla@36.83-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [14:33] I do. [14:33] I use grub2. [14:33] Anyone here use bluetooth with KDE? [14:35] goarilla (~goarilla@36.83-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: Changing host [14:35] goarilla (~goarilla@unaffiliated/goarilla) joined ##slackware. [14:35] gui_ap (~gui_ap@unaffiliated/gui-ap/x-6398608) joined ##slackware. [14:37] i wanted to, a while ago. hit problems. [14:38] Action: NaCl asks in #kde [14:38] doesn't it require bluez4? [14:38] NaCl: i doubt you ll get support for bluez 3.x.y there [14:38] Oh, wonderful. [14:38] That's why. [14:38] nick4b (~nick4b@79.103.4.10.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:39] When is that going to get pushed out anyway? What as the problem this time? [14:39] "pat finds it not good enough" [14:39] I see. [14:40] it was in -current awhile ago (pre-13), but got dropped back [14:40] bluez is major pita in general. and 4 was majorly broken then [14:41] I also remember that it required newer glib and whatnot [14:41] i dont know if thats still true though [14:41] |slackin| (~slackin@68.204.234.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:41] |slackin| (~slackin@68.204.234.50) joined ##slackware. [14:41] yep, the whole gtk stack really bugs me, I keep finding stuff that wants newer [14:42] NaCl: how is grub2? do you find it stable enough for regular use? [14:42] Yup, works fine for me. [14:42] Config syntax has changed. [14:43] yea, I'm reading about it now. It looks like they're planning to make a lot of positive improvements [14:43] thrice`: yeah. If you upgrade glib, a large amount of stuff may need to be recompiled. [14:43] i think i read that grub2 even builds on 64bit nowadays [14:43] NaCl, what's the advantage of grub2 for you? [14:43] It does. [14:43] slava_dp: I didn't feel like installing grub1. :P [14:43] over lilo, i mean. [14:43] Oh. [14:44] Easier to recover if something is messed up in the config file [14:45] _slackin_ (~slackin@68.204.234.50) joined ##slackware. [14:45] <_slackin_> man [14:45] <_slackin_> seriously [14:45] <_slackin_> cant anyone help me with this [14:45] <_slackin_> i uninstalled then compiled from absolute latest source and its STILL locking up with ANYTHING that uses ncurses [14:45] <_slackin_> i updated ncurses to 20100213 [14:45] why? [14:46] <_slackin_> this sucks [14:46] what is it [14:46] <_slackin_> anything that uses ncurses locks up [14:46] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:46] was there an ABI bump in your version of ncurses? [14:46] what kind of terminal are you using [14:46] |slackin| (~slackin@68.204.234.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [14:46] _slackin_: i have the same issues. i once researched for a solution but i dont remember what the outcome was. i know i havent solved em though [14:47] <_slackin_> GooseYArd, doesnt matter if its putty or sitting at machine [14:47] <_slackin_> locks up either way [14:47] alright [14:47] _slackin_: it usually happened for me with mc whenn starting aand closing it multple times without logging out [14:47] but i remember it happened with pkgtool and sbopkg too [14:47] <_slackin_> sahk0, yea if i reboot its fine, but its a headless router, thats a big pain in the but [14:47] <_slackin_> butt [14:48] no reboot, relogin [14:48] <_slackin_> fresh login [14:48] <_slackin_> still doin it [14:48] if you strace the pid can you tell if its doing anything [14:48] hmm. maybe i dont remember exactly. its been a while [14:48] <_slackin_> GooseYArd, how does that work? [14:49] dont' update ncurses, especially to some development version [14:49] strace -p [14:49] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [14:49] <_slackin_> GooseYArd, ill try that, thank you [14:49] chowder (~Anon@c-98-211-211-147.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:50] _slackin_: i think i remembered what the problem was. are doing it all inside GNU screen? [14:50] that'll give you some idea of whether its blocked [14:50] s/are/are you [14:51] hah yeah if youre in a screen session its pretty easy [14:51] rworkman: ping [14:51] _slackin_: i think that screen is the problem. maybe try tmux and see what happens [14:52] although im not 100% sure. & i dont keep logs [14:52] NaCl, alien mentioned something about bluez4 possibly coming soon, a couple days ago. [14:52] Weird0ne (~rogue@99-160-155-34.lightspeed.bkfdca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:53] In that case... [14:53] Action: NaCl will be patient [14:55] _slackin_ (~slackin@68.204.234.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:57] but IIRC it happened in tmux as well [14:57] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-143-133.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:57] |slackin| (~slackin@68.204.234.50) joined ##slackware. [14:57] nonblock on [14:58] in .screenrc [14:58] fixes a couple of those sorts of problems [15:00] i have that too. i dont know if it was present then , but chances are it was [15:01] thrice`: I did not say anything about bluez4 ... [15:01] oh, maybe it was rworkman then [15:02] Yeah, I think rworkman was working o that stuff [15:03] |slackin| (~slackin@68.204.234.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:03] SlashQuit (~SlashQuit@c-76-25-54-227.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:07] |slackin| (~slackin@50.234.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:10] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-76-226.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:10] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-143-133.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:11] Azeotrope (1000@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [15:11] i get this kind of error when compiling from slackbuilds http://pastebin.ca/1803979 [15:12] compiling what specifically [15:13] GConf [15:13] and truecrypt [15:13] you need to change your ARCH to x86_64 [15:13] sorry, *probably* need to [15:13] i have a 6bbit system [15:14] how do i do that? [15:14] by default, all slackbuilds are set for 32-bit arch [15:15] elif [ "$ARCH" = "x86_64" ]; then [15:15] http://www.slackbuild.org/faq/#x86_64 [15:15] don't they autodetect? [15:15] Intel_BG (~intel@95.43.8.12) joined ##slackware. [15:15] open it up and look [15:15] from the gconf.SlackBuild: ARCH=${ARCH:-i486} [15:16] same thing [15:16] same error [15:17] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:17] then you didn't change it [15:18] run: ARCH="x86_64" sh GConf.SlackBuild [15:18] oh, thanks [15:18] worked now [15:19] Mkman (~tiago@bl10-194-7.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:19] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:19] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [15:20] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.249.169) joined ##slackware. [15:21] _slackin_ (~slackin@50.234.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:22] Intel_BG (intel@95.43.8.12) left ##slackware. [15:25] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-100-253.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [15:25] |slackin| (~slackin@50.234.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:25] that "rc.vbox setup" is nice.. saves a lot of messing around. [15:26] kop (~kop@c-24-18-172-99.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:27] |slackin| (~slackin@68.204.234.50) joined ##slackware. [15:28] _slackin_ (~slackin@50.234.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:28] just one lame question , will 13.xx pick up the intel pro 100 nic on install ? Or does it need third party drivers ? [15:29] the e100 driver has been stock in the kernel for 10 years [15:29] look again [15:30] as recent as ii it was absent/broken [15:30] so... you 're asking a question you already know the answer to ? [15:31] he's asking if its in the damn 13.xx kernel [15:31] read the question again [15:31] The e100 firmware is missing in 13.0's installer. But the installer in -current has repaired that omission [15:31] thank you [15:31] compiz on slackware?? [15:32] Azeotrope, why not ? [15:32] |slackin| (~slackin@68.204.234.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:33] kop, without bugs? how can i do that? [15:35] tuvok302Lappy (Nancy@clgrtnt5-port-126.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:38] what doesn't have bugs ? [15:39] my nugz [15:41] SlashQuit, lucky or celibate ? :D [15:41] clean shaved is another option right? [15:41] good times good times my script work on slackware, freebsd and mac [15:42] sometimes i wished i hadn't choosen bash as my default sh shell [15:42] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.70.73) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:43] every other shell now is just 2 awkward [15:44] so install bash everywhere [15:44] at least it allows some complex stuff. [15:45] for shell scripts thats a big annoyance [15:45] |slackin| (~slackin@50.234.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:45] #! env bash ? everywhere [15:45] and hoping the system has env [15:45] Azeotrope, are the bugz in the the kernel , libs or deps ? [15:46] libs and deps? [15:47] libraries , dependencies [15:47] mmm tcsh :p [15:47] i don't know [15:48] where are the bugs? [15:48] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.70.73) joined ##slackware. [15:48] I use the tool for the job , if I really want compiz I'll use a kernel that it works on [15:49] janemba (~back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:49] I'm so not married to a single OS [15:49] delt0r (~delt0r@62-47-151-48.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:49] i enabled kde effects but they'r kinda lame [15:49] janemba (~back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:49] i'm not married to a single os either, i run multiple virtualbox OSes [15:50] yeah vbox is sweet [15:50] and i chose slackware to be the host so i could learn more linux [15:50] most systems do have env by the way. [15:50] it really replaced my need for vmware server [15:50] has anyone seen smartctl run a short/long test but not report the status of it until completion ? [15:50] VBox is limited to the memory that you assign the guest and compiz is a whore [15:50] but slackware seems not as fancy as ubuntu... [15:51] Azeotrope: it's simple, powerful, clean [15:51] Azeotrope: ubuntu is messy [15:51] how is that? [15:51] thumbs, can be [15:51] it's really easy to use [15:52] yeah is it me or does vbox allocate all the memory for the guest immediatly vs vmware which does it dynamically [15:52] goarilla: you're probably right. [15:53] vldmr (1000@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [15:53] Azeotrope, so go and use ubuntu, stop ranting here. [15:53] goarilla, seems that I'm forced into swap earlier on the host when running VBox [15:53] i'm not ranting [15:53] fancy? L [15:53] OL [15:53] i just have problems making slack look nice [15:54] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [15:54] have you tried the command line yet? [15:54] Azeotrope: my slackware looks nice. [15:54] Azeotrope, my shell in slack looks like any other shell on any other unix. [15:54] Azeotrope, tried gnome/slack/compiz ? [15:54] so does mine [15:54] slava_dp my shell in ubuntu looked nicer [15:54] Astounding (~none@c-68-81-91-254.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:55] Can someone please help me? Ive totally bricked my thinkpad [15:55] had this white, smooth font, a old world map as background and a wobbly effect when moved [15:55] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.59.219) joined ##slackware. [15:55] Astounding: what did you do? [15:55] I think my bash prompt is downright sexy.. and my gui makes me happy. go go slack! [15:55] Azeotrope: ah, you want anti-aliased fonts for your terminal? [15:55] I tried to hackintosh it, it may have used some "chameleon bootloader" anyway the process eneded in "boot0" testing boot0: error" so i tried windows recovery and even that failed [15:56] sorry, actually the windows recovery worked the first time [15:56] then i tried to dual boot debian, and after debian install i got "boo0: error [15:56] now I've wiped my ENTIRE drive and put only debian on [15:56] i have this office keyboard and i used to start irrsi with a special button, in full-terminal mode [15:56] and I'm still getting boot 0: error [15:56] here i'm lost [15:56] Astounding: debian? [15:56] Azeotrope: that's mostly your terminal emulator [15:56] Astounding: so you're not actually using slackware? [15:56] I've tried but its too difficult for me [15:56] but the issue isnt debian related [15:57] its my MBR, its toast somehow I think [15:57] Astounding: so you're not using slackware, then. [15:57] correct [15:57] raela: did you get that project w [15:57] orkjing from alst night? [15:57] I don't doubt I'll have this issue with any OS from now on though [15:57] Astounding: so how can we help you with slackware, exactly? [15:57] Astounding, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx bs=512 count=1 [15:57] Astounding, that'll wipe your partition table and your boot loader [15:58] Astounding, change sdx to your actual drive [15:58] NyteOwl: yep! went into office hours today and it took 2-3 quick, stupid fixes :P [15:58] thumbs, don't be a nazi :) [15:58] Azeotrope, I don't even use Slack anymore (variety of reasons) and I'm about to tell you that either you have to look into the difference between the implementations of compiz on slack and ubuntu or just join the unwashed masses and install ubuntu to get your precious and pretty compiz to work [15:58] slava_dp: I was about to send him to #debian [15:58] I was just asking here because I know slackware users seem to be the most knowledgable [15:58] Naraku (supergear@c-24-8-72-236.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:58] Astounding: ah, the old bogus reason. [15:59] How is it bogus? [15:59] Astounding: since you actually use debian, try #debian. [15:59] man, there's the second one I've seen this week.. slackers are more knowledgable/friendly/etc [15:59] <|slackin|> raela, hehe [15:59] Astounding: I'm sure there are some smart folks in #debian [15:59] <|slackin|> i was here for the other one too [15:59] <|slackin|> hahaha [15:59] Astounding, hump my leg a little more and I just might cum up w/ an answer [15:59] <|slackin|> friendly != slackware users imho [15:59] slava_dp gave you the only option that may work Astounding [15:59] kop, i don't want to install ubuntu just for compiz and cool effects. not even foreaszy apps install [16:00] raela: just my opinion but a higher percentage of slack suers actual understand more of the workings of their OS than most other distro users do. [16:00] 88 [16:00] <|slackin|> NyteOwl, tru that [16:01] slack users arent the most friendly [16:01] Azeotrope, do it on a test box so you can track the dependencies and libraries that make it work on ubuntu and attempt to do the same on slack [16:01] least i would say [16:01] but they sure know their shit [16:01] |slackin|: eh, I think slackers are friendly enough as long as your question isn't too horrible [16:01] like NyteOwl helping me with some stupid c stuff last night :) [16:02] <|slackin|> raela, hehe [16:02] selimozbas (~selim@78.161.52.204) joined ##slackware. [16:02] <|slackin|> i hear ya [16:02] Astounding: I dunno, in #ubuntu everything is !bot command to send you elsewhere [16:02] and in #centos, they're so jaded they'll let you tank your system with commands they give if you ask for it [16:03] delt0r (~delt0r@62-47-135-4.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [16:03] Astounding: let me give you an example of why I dislike postings in the wrong channel. [16:03] thumbs my issue is related to grub and the MBR though, not slackware [16:03] or debian [16:03] Astounding: a user tied up two of us for 40 minutes once, and later admitted that he was using sqlite, not mysql. And he was dense. [16:03] slackware uses lilo by default [16:03] <|slackin|> Astounding, slackware uses lilo normally [16:03] <|slackin|> haha [16:03] i know that [16:03] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-71-12.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:03] <|slackin|> soo [16:03] but you can also use grub [16:03] <|slackin|> grub [16:03] <|slackin|> you came here? [16:03] did overwriting the mbr work? [16:04] Astounding: if you want to know how to set up slackware to use grub, we can help you with that. [16:04] <|slackin|> how many people here running *slackware* use grub??? [16:04] I do [16:04] |slackin|: I never did. [16:04] I insist on it. [16:04] <|slackin|> thumbs, me niether [16:04] I loathe grub [16:04] <|slackin|> i hate grub [16:04] I don't even use slackware [16:04] Action: slava_dp hits kop with a frozen eel [16:05] I have lilo on my slackware boxen. lab computer has centos and I hate my experience so far with grub [16:05] whre can i find the iptables script so i can add port rules for 22? [16:05] yes, grub is hard for people that have never used it. [16:05] imagne that. [16:05] <|slackin|> ardya, not hard [16:05] <|slackin|> it doesnt work very well [16:05] slava_dp, I do use grub :D [16:05] slava_dp: If I run that command will that erase all my partitions and the mbr? So i'll need to do a reinstall after? [16:05] and lilo sucks for grub users [16:05] <|slackin|> ive had many issues with it [16:05] Astounding: did you run the "dd" command and if so, what was the result? [16:05] *yawn* [16:05] The_ManU_212 (~manu@port-92-200-138-183.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:05] <|slackin|> lilo is so much more realible [16:05] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [16:06] at least lilo tells you if you screwed up something in lilo.conf before you try to boot it :/ [16:06] alienbob: I need to make a live cd to get to a terminal [16:06] Azeotrope: what you really want is to create a script called /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall and make that executable with your firewall rules in it. [16:06] ANd yes it will erase the mbr, not your data (but your data will get inaccessible nevertheless) [16:06] <|slackin|> raela, AMEN [16:06] slava_dp, you won't see me here bashing slack either , I used it from 4-10.something [16:06] and why does slack have /etc/rc.d and ubuntu had init.d ? [16:06] Astounding: if a liveCD boots up then at least you'll know it is not a BIOS issue but the MBR of the drive that is at fault [16:07] <|slackin|> Azeotrope, slackware uses BSD style init scripts [16:07] <|slackin|> its all the same [16:07] <|slackin|> realisticly [16:07] ok [16:07] Azeotrope: distros do things in different ways. if you're going to switch, you have to be prepared to learn new ways of doing things [16:07] Astounding, sfdisk -d /dev/sda > sda.out [16:08] Astounding, will backup your partition table. [16:08] Azeotrope: why do you want to block port 22 with iptables? [16:08] raela, that's the main reason for switching [16:08] BP{k}, not block, allow [16:08] and not only 22 [16:08] Astounding, use "sfdisk /dev/sda < sda.out" to restore it. [16:08] i have some ports used for virtualbox RDP [16:08] Azeotrope: Slackware does not block anything by default [16:09] so, i should block everything then [16:09] and allow only what i use [16:09] slava_dp:I'm creating a live USB then I will try the command [16:10] Azeotrope: yes, the usual method is to allow the ports, one by one, then deny access to all ports. In that order. [16:10] ok [16:10] so far i used only the gui firewall [16:10] Azeotrope: there are several guides for iptables. [16:11] welcome to the real world [16:11] thank you. [16:12] My slax SD card wont even boot anymore, I'm just happy I can still boot from USB [16:12] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Quit: d ä_ĺ b [16:12] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:12] Damn small linux live usb is almost ready [16:12] i also have the problem with encrypted /home. it ask for the pass *before* the services start (ssh, ftp) [16:12] so in case of powerdown it will wait for input [16:13] bad thing in a server. [16:13] bad thing is encrypting /home on a server [16:14] it's not a server. it's a ssh server [16:14] :d [16:14] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: nothing like running off an ass you dont have already [16:14] you could make a fake /home ... so the services start, then ssh in and mount the encrypted one. [16:14] Astounding, as a side note, better use system rescue cd instead of damn small linux, as the latter is unmaintained. [16:15] well, so it loads up anyway and you can ssh in. [16:16] zarock (zarock@olaf.pepin.pl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:16] SlashQuit, i need something like this. powerup - services start (ssh, ftp and transmission-daemon) - asks for /home password - login screen (so other people can use the box) [16:17] in ubuntu it was easy, it booted, started everything as root and then login screen. if i logged in as azeotrope, it autodecrypted home [16:17] then remove /home from crypttab and luksOpen it from rc.local or something like that [16:18] editing rc.local? [16:18] Action: slava_dp haven't yet fiddled with encryption [16:18] Astounding (~none@c-68-81-91-254.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:19] Astounding (~none@c-68-81-91-254.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:19] I didnt safely remove my usb key and i got a hard lock on my machine [16:19] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:20] damn it [16:20] i've lost my nessus home licence :| [16:21] zarock (zarock@olaf.pepin.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:22] alice (alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:22] alice (alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:24] Azeotrope: so why don't you use ubuntu for it? sounds like that would be a valid solution [16:25] because i like to complicate my life [16:25] i'm sure there is a way achieve that in slack too [16:25] ahh. in that case, just go for lfs [16:25] yeah LFS would be cool [16:25] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-76-226.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [16:26] enmodal (~matt@99-60-72-168.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:26] enmodal (~matt@99-60-72-168.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:27] do LFS, BLFS and then DIY. that should be enough to get you started [16:27] Azeotrope: oh well so you cant get to all that cp in /home :D [16:28] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [16:29] there was this paranoid linux distro... tinfoilhat [16:29] had low contrast so cameras cant see, tiny fonts [16:29] selimozbas (~selim@78.161.52.204) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:29] i should use that [16:30] Azeotrope: and are you sure it will 'wait' for password input? i've seen other distros time out on that [16:30] Azeotrope: eh, you mean it's not a floppy distro anymore ? [16:30] =) [16:30] wasn't that called floppyhat? [16:30] although automatic decryption of /home seems pointless. why encrypt it, when you have it automatically decrypted on bootup? what purpose does encryption serve then? [16:31] or silver hat [16:31] ananke i don't want to autodecrypt it. [16:31] ananke, s/on bootup/on valid user login/ [16:32] Matthew_Murdock (~user@109.93.169.146) joined ##slackware. [16:32] ohh, indeed. i misread your earlier statement [16:32] yea, that's something else [16:32] Azeotrope: anyway, i'd verify whether there is a timeout [16:32] i think ubuntu had pam, the password for encryption was the same for the user [16:32] and the same for root [16:33] So it only mounts it as /home/username ? [16:33] there you go, '-t' option for cryptsetup luksOpen [16:34] Mkman (~tiago@bl10-194-7.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:34] Hi, I wonder is there compiled package for emacs 23.1 somewere? [16:35] ubuntu is nice, but since today is jailed in a virtualbox. like forever [16:35] Matthew_Murdock: i have a slackbuild if you need it [16:36] Sun Tzu said that. Keep your friend OSes close. Or was it Sun VirtualBox? [16:36] GooseYArd: Ok, and then can I safely remove old version and install new? [16:36] people actually use emacs? x_x [16:37] Ls [16:37] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [16:37] whoops =P [16:37] Matthew_Murdock: yah, http://topquark.roadkill.com/~bailey9/slackbuild/emacs/ [16:37] slava_dp: you wouldnt believe how many people use emacs [16:38] Is that the package that 'pico' is in? [16:38] GooseYArd: Thanks! I will try this now, I really need to see fancy fonts in emacs :) [16:38] Matthew_Murdock: yah the xft stuff looks nice [16:38] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [16:38] hmm, take the slackware slackbuild and update it? [16:39] Matthew_Murdock: you still have to use monospaced fonts of course, but the antialiasing looks nice [16:39] Camarade_Tux: yah i think that ones literally like a 3 character change [16:39] slava_dp:: I got puppy linux live USB up and running using unetbootin to make the key [16:39] What was that command again to wipe my mbr? [16:39] phrag: Goat\ Pr0n\ \[264\]\ \[DTS\].mkv ;-) [16:41] Astounding, sfdisk -d /dev/sdX > partitions_backup.txt; dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=512 count=1 [16:41] Astounding, and keep partitions_backup.txt, you'll be able to restore your partition table later. [16:42] Doens't even look like my hdd is mounted right now [16:42] I'm checking before running that [16:43] doesn't have to be mounted for it [16:43] Well im not sure what to replace sdx with [16:43] would be better if it weren't actually [16:43] Astounding, fdisk -l [16:43] Camarade_Tux, doesn't matter, commands operate on the first 512 bytes [16:43] oh ok i see my partitions now [16:44] Astounding, be sure to use the whole drive, not a partition. [16:44] Says I dont have sdfisk [16:45] lol [16:45] sfdisk* [16:45] command not found [16:45] puppy linux is for puppies then :) [16:45] lol [16:45] slava_dp: doesn't hurt to have them unmounted first ;-) [16:46] GooseYArd: Thanks again, not that I don't like terminus font that I am using right now, but antialiasing is a nice thing to see. It will work with just one line to .Xresources: Emacs.Font: Monospace-9 and Emacs.FontBackend: xft, right? [16:46] I'll try a different live-usb [16:46] Astounding, it's best to use system rescue cd for these operations, it has all the toolkit. [16:46] Matthew_Murdock: yeah I think thats about all I had to do [16:47] 23.2 is going to be out in the next couple or 3 weeks, so I'll update that accordingly [16:48] Matthew_Murdock: you can always try xrdb --merge .Xresources and relaunch emacs to test it [16:49] goarilla: thx [16:54] Slackware package /tmp/transmission-1.82-x86_64-1_SBo.tgz created. [16:54] now what do i do? [16:55] 1.90 is already out [16:55] aaah [16:55] not on slackbuilds [16:55] what do i do? [16:56] either compile the new one or install the slackbuild [16:56] test34- (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:56] slackbuilds cant be installed. you mean the package [16:56] i already installed the slackbuild 1.82 [16:57] damn right.. sahk0 [16:57] Matthew_Murdock (user@109.93.169.146) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)"). [16:57] what do i do now? [16:58] Astounding, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx bs=446 count=1 <-- supposed to only erase your master boot record and leave your partition table intact. [16:58] Astounding, but better backup it with sfdisk first for a good measure. [16:59] ArTourter (~artourter@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:59] Ok, i copied the data from the live system rescue cd to my usb, and used syslinux to mrite the mbr lets see if this live usb boots [17:00] ok i failed [17:00] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-29.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:00] i cant even make a bootable usb without using this unetbootin [17:00] ea_suter (~easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:01] if i do mtr IP i get a gui... [17:01] how do i make it textmode? [17:01] oh i forgot to rename something [17:02] I did it! i made live bootable usb of system rescue cd [17:02] ok I'm going to try those commands now [17:05] This partitions backup txt will be saved when I reboot? [17:05] Astounding, nope, find a way to save it. [17:06] I would need to mount this sd card I think [17:07] Intel_BG (~intel@95.43.8.12) joined ##slackware. [17:07] or save it to my live usv [17:07] usb* [17:07] I'm not sure if when it saved just now it was to ram or to my USB [17:07] to ram, your usb is not mounted. [17:07] alkos333 (~alkos333@12.145.227.130) joined ##slackware. [17:07] I booted off my usb though [17:08] my thinkpad has no cd drive [17:08] i know. [17:08] Intel_BG (~intel@95.43.8.12) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:09] slava_dp, i installed the transmission 1.82 from slackbuilds. how do i upgrade to 1.90? [17:09] I'm just going to run the other command, it could take me hours to figure out how to mount my SD card reader [17:09] assuming its even working under this live cd [17:10] Intel_BG (~intel@95.43.8.12) joined ##slackware. [17:10] I have nothing to lose at this point, my restore partition already got corrupted and I erased it so I can never put windows 7 back on again [17:10] Azeotrope, edit SlackBuild and bump the version to 1.90, then edit the .info and bump the version and the download link. [17:10] without paying them for the disks [17:10] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: Quit: Use the x, guy [17:10] Astounding, if you have no info to lose, just go for dd [17:11] Hey people, I have problem with mounting usb removable media again. I am in the plugdev group, tryed with messagebus reload, because before it worked [17:11] but now not effect and don't know what to do [17:11] In the morning today it worked [17:12] 1+0 records in; 1+0 records out; 512 bytes (512 B) copied. 0.000445238 s. 1.1 MB/s [17:12] slava_dp, and the md5? [17:12] Astounding, now you got a zeroed mbr and no partition table. "cfdisk -z /dev/sdx" will create a new one for you. [17:13] Azeotrope, are you using sbopkg or installing by hand? [17:13] or alternatively I can go through my linux install again [17:13] ? [17:13] Astounding, yes. [17:13] installing by hand [17:13] I'll give it a try and let you know if I get this "boot0: error" again [17:14] Infin1ty (~erez@infinite.co.il) joined ##slackware. [17:14] Azeotrope, then forget editing .info, just bump the version in the slackbuild and put the right source archive in the same folder. [17:14] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-143-133.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:14] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-143-133.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:15] hoobop (user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [17:16] I've got to disconnect this machine as I only have one ethernet cable and im using the network install of debian [17:16] I'll return a bit later either way [17:16] ty for the help, heres hoping it will work now [17:16] zaltekk (zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) left ##slackware. [17:16] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [17:17] slava_dp, i got this: Slackware package /tmp/transmission-1.90-x86_64-1_SBo.tgz created. [17:18] congratulations [17:18] sarkoman (~sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [17:18] Azeotrope, should i hand-hold you to install this package too? [17:19] no no [17:19] thank you [17:19] welcome :-) [17:20] i didn't know that's the way of telling it's done and ok [17:20] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:20] how do i install jar? [17:21] the jre slackpkg is in the extras/ dir on your dvd [17:21] isn't it old? [17:21] Old? [17:22] jdk is in extra [17:22] ea_suter (easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) left ##slackware. [17:22] outdated... i remember some jre updates for ubuntu a few days ago [17:22] vdvluc (~vdvluc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:22] its 1.6p18 [17:22] java is always old [17:22] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:22] if you're worried about security, dont run java [17:23] Astounding (~none@c-68-81-91-254.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:23] i can't find transmission in my apps list [17:23] p18 is current for jdk6 anyway [17:23] break19 (~break19@c-67-177-67-170.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:23] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.193) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [17:24] holy crap http://java.sun.com/ [17:24] isnt it java.oracle.com now? [17:24] guax: ? [17:25] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:25] GooseYArd, orale logo there =P [17:25] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [17:25] oh heh [17:25] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Client Quit [17:26] Azeotrope, last version of java as of oracles site > JDK 6 Update 18 with Java EE [17:26] Intel_BG (intel@95.43.8.12) left ##slackware. [17:26] on slackware -> jdk-6u18-i586-1 [17:26] you that seems to be outdated =P [17:27] toastytoast (~toast@cpe-74-75-198-155.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:28] vdvluc (~vdvluc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:28] vdvluc (~vdvluc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:28] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-71-12.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:30] v4nelle (~van@79.103.136.171.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:32] guax i was thinking about that this morning [17:32] ea_suter (~easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:32] i think oracle is going to put solaris out to pasture [17:32] its going to be really weird having linux and bsd with everything else being marginal [17:33] not quite right [17:33] http://www.oracle.com/features/suncustomers.html [17:33] eh im skeptical, ive seen this same thing happen many times before [17:33] it'll be around for 15 more years but its going to be marginalized [17:34] the best running system on sparcs are solaris, i think they will keep investing on that, to oracle is better to keep up with its own operating system [17:34] benagain (~benagain@ResNet-32-143.resnet.ucsb.edu) joined ##slackware. [17:35] acidtripper (~gonza@190.193.18.19) joined ##slackware. [17:35] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [17:35] i think the development costs are too high to try to compete with intel [17:35] its like the Alpha all over again [17:36] they are not competing with intel, they competing with ibm [17:37] ah yeah i suppose the power vs. sparc fight might be worth taking on [17:38] it certainly improves oracles position as a services company [17:38] but that still leaves solaris as a niche market product [17:38] jiraia (~jiraia@189.31.9.9) joined ##slackware. [17:39] vldmr (1000@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:40] Nick change: tuvok302Lappy -> tuvok302_shower [17:40] i think they plan is just to use it on servers, and i think opensolaris is the developers atraction tool [17:40] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Quit: :) [17:40] alkos333 (~alkos333@12.145.227.130) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:41] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[17:47] Azeotrope (1000@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:47] Astounding (~none@c-68-81-91-254.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:47] Well, it looks like its time to throw my thinkpad in the garbage, i enjoyed it for the 3 days I had it [17:48] After install debian wrote grub into the mbr, etc etc, rebooted, just a flashing cursor top of screen [17:48] guax, I don't see it, but there are a lot of settings in the preference menu... do you know where it is? [17:50] Astounding, reset your bios to defaults. [17:50] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:50] Ok, resetting now one moment [17:50] guax, nevermind I finally found it [17:51] slava_dp: Still no luck =\ Just a flashing underscore "_ [17:51] " [17:52] weird [17:53] you sure you are set to boot from hdd? [17:54] Yeah, let me press f12 and specifically specify HDD to be 100% sure [17:55] Yeah, no go =\ [17:55] Astounding: before you throw it away, send it to me. and if I get it working I get to keep it, k? [17:56] _slackin_ (~slackin@68.204.234.50) joined ##slackware. [17:56] slava_dp: have you compilled gens for slack x86_64? [17:56] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:56] acidtripper, i have 0 boxen with slack64. [17:56] so you'r using 32bits? [17:57] i'm using 128 [17:57] AEnima1577: Hey I am trying to send a message to the #dd-wrt channel and i am geting a message which says "cannot send to channel" any ideas why? [17:57] benagain (~benagain@ResNet-32-143.resnet.ucsb.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:57] AEnima1577, #freenode [17:58] |slackin| (~slackin@50.234.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [17:58] slava_dp: yes, apparently this is not a general help channel [17:58] slava_dp: because, you know, we run slackware so we must be smarter [17:58] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:58] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [17:59] then folks wonder why I'm reluctant to help folks with off-topic questions [17:59] thumbs, i'm just sitting here helping people when I should be in bed long ago. [17:59] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) joined ##slackware. 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[18:09] i cant find it in rc.d [18:09] /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd restart [18:09] that kind of deserved an RTFM [18:09] :P [18:10] Azeotrope: read the slackbook [18:10] ew new, the -current amarock is all kinds of buggy with the playlist / search, lyrics, and current song status [18:10] -c [18:10] SlashQuit, I hate amarok 2 [18:10] its working well here [18:10] there was nothing wrong with old amarok :( [18:10] ersion 2.2.1 [18:10] someone there can give me a hand with multilib [18:10] im trying to build gens/gs [18:11] i did . /etc/profile.d/32dev.sh [18:11] The lyrics often show up as metacode, if I alt-tab away then back, the 'progress' on the top is half visible, and the search function shows album names with no tracks listed (the album names don't match the keyword) [18:11] all what it's explained in http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/ [18:12] but it continue saying this configure: error: 64-bit is currently not supported. 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[18:36] Azeotrope: visudo [18:36] ok [18:36] and line? [18:37] there is a root example for ALL [18:37] fill yours right under [18:42] i can't find tork for slackware [18:43] slackaholic (1000@187-25-143-201.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [18:44] why /usr/local belongs to my user? o_O [18:45] hoobop (~user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [18:45] your user is a hax0r [18:46] =/ [18:46] SlashQuit, i dont remember to choned guax.users [18:46] chowned* [18:46] ikonia (~mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:47] Azeotrope: what's tork ? [18:47] is it possible to tell scp to skip files that already exist on the remote? can't find an option for that [18:48] what would be the diff between apt-getting software and slackbuilding it? [18:48] Camarade_Tux: yeah, scp isnt too versatile [18:48] besides time [18:49] jiraia (~jiraia@189.31.9.9) joined ##slackware. [18:49] Azeotrope, I often find a slightly newer version than what's listed on slackbuilds .. and it easilly lets you tweak 1 line in the slackbuild file to use the newer version. [18:49] Azeotrope: well, options.... src can be modified [18:49] Action: guax think it need to pay more attention with root and slackbuilds or stuff [18:50] mattallmill__ (~mattallmi@ip68-103-163-24.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:50] i just need a fast option of getting software [18:51] sbopkg might be your friend [18:52] slap-get? [18:52] nope [18:52] slapt-get it isn't [18:52] sbopkg, slackbuilds.org and slackpkg [18:53] slapt-get manage dependencies but most of the times make mess [18:56] Kaapa (~Something@bl10-138-72.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [18:57] snL20, tork is a gui for TOR [18:57] the anonymity software [18:57] Azeotrope: aah ok :) [18:58] Kaapa (~Something@bl6-206-153.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:58] Azeotrope: tor's always been a waste of time for me =) [18:58] XGizzmo_ (~gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:59] why? it's very nice [18:59] combined with metasploit [18:59] ;) [19:00] acidtripper, actually I've never had any problems with slapt-get [19:00] it just isn't all that useful on slackware because slack doesn't track dependencies [19:00] on VectorLinux (Slack derivative) slapt-get works like a charm [19:01] it's just a matter of inserting the right dependency list into an extra file in the install/ directory [19:01] :) [19:01] so, no way of installing software on the go? as in (sl)apt-get install tork? [19:01] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:01] j0z (~lhp@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: [19:02] mattca (~matt@CPE00146c1657f7-CM00194757dcbe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. 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[19:40] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:41] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [19:42] someone there wanna help me compilling gens on slackware 64? [19:43] i configured 32dev and installed latest multilib packages , and did all what explained on ~alien web page... but same error continue configure: error: 64-bit is currently not supported. [19:44] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [19:50] xsamurai (~munki@pool-71-106-227-134.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:54] gens should compile fine on 64bit afaik. [19:56] BP{k}: nope, it give me that error [19:56] grb (~grb@S0106001f16447e6f.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:56] it's not prepeared to compile on 64bits [19:57] what is your ARCH setting? [19:57] i did what it's explained on [19:58] here : http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib [19:58] slaker (~slaker@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [19:58] grb (~grb@S0106001f16447e6f.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:58] |slackin| (~slackin@68.204.234.50) joined ##slackware. [19:59] slaker (~slaker@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:00] slaker (~slaker@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [20:00] arch=x86_64 but modified slackbuild to look on /usr/lib [20:00] dive: . [20:01] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:04] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [20:04] LIBDIRSUFFIX=""? [20:06] dive: yes [20:06] and you did 'source /etc/profile.d/32dev.sh'? [20:06] hoobop (~user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:07] alicephilippa (alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:07] alicephilippa (alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:09] xsamurai (~munki@pool-71-106-227-134.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:11] yes but it hangs [20:12] that's likey a problem then [20:12] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [20:13] isn't xvid option enabled in the stock mplayer that comes with 13? [20:13] hoobop (~user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [20:13] i did: source /etc/profile.d/32dev.sh then ARCH=x86_64 ./gens-gs.SlackBuild [20:13] and continue with configure: error: 64-bit is currently not supported. [20:13] dive: [20:14] but it hung? [20:14] acidtripper: did you actualy read the SlackBuild? [20:14] yes [20:15] and it says it won't compile on pure 64bits [20:15] no, it doesn't hang [20:15] it answear that [20:15] sometimes it hang and others answear configure: error: 64-bit is currently not supported. [20:16] only reason i'm not using 64bit slack is i couldn't get epsxe to work :( [20:16] i tried alot of diffeent dstuff too couldn't get [20:18] acidtripper, can you http://pastebin.slackadelic.com the edited slackbuild you are using? [20:19] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:20] yes [20:23] the stock mplayer package isn't configured with either xvid or lame codecs. is this true? [20:23] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:24] dive: http://acidtripper.pastebin.com/m5ade7f0a [20:26] xvicd is a codec? [20:26] cryptic0: xvid is not a codec, sorry. [20:26] Action: NaCl facepalms [20:26] Sorry. [20:26] cryptic0: they aren't in Slackware, so they aren't going to be in there by default. [20:27] I also get error on lame: -lameopts is not an MEncoder option [20:27] lame isn't in Slackware either. [20:28] but I installed a mplayer codecs package from slackbuilds [20:28] I don't know about that. [20:29] Looks precompiled, so. [20:29] acidtripper, not sure then. I looks ok to me... [20:29] NaCl: the mplayer-codecs slackbuild contains all codecs distributed by mplayerhq [20:29] cryptic0, lame is not in codecs package - you must install lame [20:30] dive: I do actually have lame, because I use it to rip wavs to mp3s [20:30] but somehow mencoder can't detect it [20:30] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:30] then you need rebuild mplayer. I used the package for 12.2 from sbo and it works fine. [20:31] I need amr support. [20:31] dive: I believe mplayer comes built in with slack 13 [20:31] and a separate package is not available on slackbuilds [20:31] cryptic0: you need to *rebuild* it [20:31] cryptic0, yes it is. Look for 12.2 package by rworkman. [20:31] NaCl: compile from source? [20:31] dive: is it ok to use 12.2 package on 13? [20:32] It's a build script [20:32] I don't want to go back in time [20:32] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/mplayer/ [20:32] cryptic0: Slackware cannot perform time travel at this time [20:32] cryptic0, well you can grab source for 13.0 and try but it failed for me. [20:33] NaCl: :) [20:34] bbiab [20:34] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: Molon Labe [20:34] this is too complicated for me :). I guess I will just forget about ripping the dvd [20:34] cryptic0, just set sbopkg for 12.2 repo and use that. [20:34] dive: change something in 12.2 mplayer package? [20:35] sarkoman (~sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:35] cryptic0: It's a *script* [20:35] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:36] yes I realize, the question is, will it work on 13? [20:36] cryptic0, no, go to http://sbopkg.org and install sbopkg [20:36] oh [20:36] That is also your friend. [20:36] cryptic0, you never used it before? [20:36] Although if something is messed up, it becomes more difficult to fix it. [20:36] dive: nope I din't know anything about sbopkg [20:37] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [20:37] well it's a very nice app to install directly from slackbuilds.org [20:37] allows searching etc [20:37] It is really nice. [20:38] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:38] you know what, I think my mplayer simply needs to know the path to codecs and I think because I installed codecs after I installed the player, it doesn't. Now only if I can figure out some way to educate the player [20:38] Axtroz (1000@77.78.15.8) joined ##slackware. [20:39] cryptic0, if you read the slackbuild script from 13.0 it will explain. [20:39] sarkoman (~sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [20:40] dive: yes thanks. will that be on cdrom under source? [20:40] yes [20:41] <|slackin|> who saw the video of the old man beatin up the black dude? [20:41] alienBOB: ping [20:42] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [20:43] Hey guys... I just installed Slackware 13 on a new laptop and I was looking at the filesystem [20:44] I just noticed a broken symlink named X11 in /var [20:44] Axtroz, don't look - you'll go blind ;-) [20:44] WildWizard (~WildWizar@ppp118-208-52-91.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [20:44] lol, dive, you only live once :D if you're not looking why're you living :P [20:44] axtroz@slack:var $ file X11 [20:44] X11: broken symbolic link to `X11R6' [20:44] it should be pointing to /var/X11R6 [20:45] /var/X11R6 -> ../usr/X11R6/lib/X11 [20:45] also [20:45] so two links [20:45] well.. Thing is that there is no /var/X11R6 [20:45] right it's a link to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/ [20:45] or should be [20:46] it's from a stock install, upgraded with current... [20:46] dunno [20:46] I'll recreate the symlink.. [20:46] dive: so? maybe related to a gens problem? [20:46] ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/ /var/X11R6 then ln -s /var/X11 /var/X11R6 [20:47] er wait the second one is the other way around [20:47] ln -s /var/X11R6 /var/X11 [20:47] yeah, i know :) [20:47] <|slackin|> watch this first: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQJFv9SMSMQ [20:47] i know how to use ln, just was wondering [20:47] ok :-) [20:47] <|slackin|> then watch this: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4c5_1266615451 [20:47] dunno why it didn't get linked though/ Is this a fresh install? [20:47] v4nelle (~van@79.103.136.171.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:48] fresh install + upgrade to current [20:48] dive? [20:48] dive: as it turns out, the codecs package contains none of the codecs I was talking about. thats strange. [20:48] acidtripper, no idea. But the slackbuild does say it doesn't build on pure 64bit systems. [20:49] cryptic0, yes but if you read the slackbuild script it explains that lame/mp3 is disabled as well as dvdcss [20:50] dive: # I don't think this builds on a pure 64-Bit system [20:51] right. [20:51] dive: huh patents [20:51] contact the devs or the maintainer and ask perhaps. [20:51] cryptic0, yes. [20:51] dive: now I remember I had to install libdvdcss separaately [20:51] but trust me the 12.2 on slackbuilds.org is fine. [20:51] on my new installation [20:52] dive: it seems like a different version number though. 12.2 is svn something and 13.0 starts with a r [20:52] or you mean use 12.2 script on the sourceball included with 13? [20:52] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: She talks to angels, says they call her out by name. [20:53] cryptic0, you could try that by changing version, but it would be better to use 12.2 source. [20:53] dive: i take it the versions are not very different? [20:54] I had problems rebuilding 13.0 source, but I forget what the error was. [20:54] NyteOwl (sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [20:54] mannynix (~mannynix@201.132.49.78) joined ##slackware. [20:54] cryptic0, not too much, and anyway I've been using mplayer for more years that I can recall and I've never had problems with any of them. [20:55] dive: ok great. plus I can always revert back to my 13.0 version, if 12.2 doesn't work [20:55] can do. [20:56] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:57] dive: by the way, is there a way to enable colored text in mplayer? [20:58] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:58] coloured subs? Not sure I never use subs. [20:59] not subs [20:59] mplayer output in bash [20:59] can be made colored, I can't remember how to [20:59] ah ight [20:59] right* hmm that would be good. [21:00] --enable-color-console [21:00] I wonder if I can put that somehwere in the slackbuild [21:01] cryptic0, configure option [21:01] I've never noticed that option though [21:02] dive: I did this: ./mplayer.SlackBuild --enable-color-console [21:02] will that work? [21:02] cryptic0: under ./configure on slackbuild [21:02] ah ok [21:02] er no edit the .configure options inside the sb [21:02] take a look at the slackbuild and you'll notice where to put it [21:03] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:03] acidchild: dive: ok I put it under ./configure [21:04] script is running [21:05] acidtripper: oops, I got an error: --enable-color-console command not found [21:05] nknown parameter: --enable-color-console [21:05] i need to install a cooler in my machine; how many beers does yours hold, cryptic0? [21:06] what machine hoobop? [21:06] oh... color, nevermind [21:06] i must have beer on the brain [21:06] :p [21:07] jhw_ (~jhw@p5B3E481E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:09] one of my friends is over and he wants to connect to my dd-wrt router over his win7 laptop. But the network config would not accept the 63 letter key I have for wpa2. Not that it would try and fail, but simply not even accept it. any ideas? [21:10] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E5128.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:10] Install Slackware. :> [21:10] cryptic0: do you have a 63 characters pasword? [21:10] pass* [21:11] overkill [21:12] ea_suter (~easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:12] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:12] Yeah. [21:13] cryptic0, there's nothing in configure options for coloured console text. If you find out any more info let me know though. [21:13] cryptic0: Are you sure the issue is the length and not the content? Are you using any special chars? [21:14] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:15] AEnima15771 (clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [21:17] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:18] cryptic0, ok it seems that is _does_ work in some versions. [21:19] I'm going to try it on svn [21:20] cryptic0: maybe you'r a bit paranoid... 63 characters? how many cracker neighbours you have? [21:21] fair enough to ask but that's not really the question [21:22] proper WPA implementations should be able to accept 63 characters [21:24] john_dee (~id@95-29-13-106.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [21:25] acidtripper (~gonza@190.193.18.19) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:25] strange. i just had system spit backtraces at me during shutdown a couple of times.. [21:26] what would that mean? [21:26] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-61-147.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:26] cryptic0, latest svn doesn't support it color text either. [21:27] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-69-50.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [21:28] XGizzmo_ (~gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [21:39] peacedog (~peacedog@pool-71-254-81-30.lyncva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:40] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:43] hey guys, any pain-free way to get a framebuffer at 1366x768 if it's possible at all... [21:44] a fedora live-cd is doing it but mentions something for nouveau or something like that... [21:45] Axtroz, you may need add line in lilo.conf for your video driver [21:45] gsan_ (~gsan@cpe-66-65-134-160.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:45] Axtroz, for mine I do: 'append="video=radeonfb:1024x768@60"' [21:45] hi folks, are the slack-desc files saved when packages are installed? [21:46] nope [21:46] gsan_: look in /var/log/packages [21:46] well they are in the pacakge [21:46] escaflown (~elom@S010600256479351c.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:46] er yes what NaCl said [21:46] dive: yes, of course but are they saved after the installpkg is run? [21:46] escaflown (elom@S010600256479351c.fm.shawcable.net) left ##slackware. [21:47] gsan_, they are put into /var/log/packages/packagename and that's it [21:47] so you can read them there if you wish [21:47] ok, see it. thanks dive and NaCl [21:48] they can be viewed in pkgtool too [21:48] NaCl: ok. thanks. [21:48] np [21:50] |slackin| (~slackin@68.204.234.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [21:50] |slackin| (~slackin@68.204.234.50) joined ##slackware. [21:56] Action: |slackin| is away: alright, im gonna do something different. I'm gonna read a book [21:58] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:59] Kamel (klo_169@c-76-123-106-217.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:00] dive: thanks, will give it a try :) [22:00] razel (~rpg@CPE000fb5dad35f-CM00152fba8904.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [22:00] k [22:01] LnxSlck (1000@92.250.50.140) joined ##slackware. [22:01] razel (~rpg@CPE000fb5dad35f-CM00152fba8904.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. 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[22:17] dive: I am glad, I dont use windows [22:17] cryptic0: 63 characters? [22:17] unfortunately some of us have to use them at times [22:18] yeah, I mean how stupid is that [22:18] why? [22:18] dive: I have to also many times for work, but I am glad I don't use it as my primary os [22:19] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:20] Plasmastar (plasmastar@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [22:20] gui_ap (~gui_ap@unaffiliated/gui-ap/x-6398608) left irc: Write error: Broken pipe [22:20] SpacePlod (SpacePlod@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-tkxjeuihzocewsvn) left irc: Write error: Broken pipe [22:20] SpacePlod (SpacePlod@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-vuquqrxxouzftubd) joined ##slackware. [22:21] gui_ap (~gui_ap@unaffiliated/gui-ap/x-6398608) joined ##slackware. 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[22:45] Nyteowl: it doesnt work, only my thinklight works [22:45] nix_chix0r, high tech lab? airplane hanger? [22:45] D3lahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:46] maybe we have different keys, my keyboard likght is PgUp [22:46] potato barn? [22:46] http://www.puresimplicity.net/~delahunt/mini-screenshot.jpg [22:46] edman007, not installing anything [22:46] putting in glass walls? Removing the roof? [22:46] ThinkPadX200, if it doesn't work in hardware you will need to write something like an acpi script: see /etc/acpi/ [22:47] oh [22:47] ThinkPadX200, and make sure thinkpad-acpi is loaded [22:47] making the floor a giant trampoline... [22:47] nix_chix0r, explain! [22:47] picked out the tiles for the kitchen floor, gona do those after my parents visit [22:47] more painting [22:47] doing the tiles so there is a compass rose in the room centre is always nice :) [22:48] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:48] nix_chix0r, paint a tux on the ceiling [22:48] and make the walls black with green text [22:48] lol [22:48] edman007, we were gona do a jungle scene in kiddos room on the wall [22:48] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [22:48] paint some monkeys and stuff [22:49] naw - penguins [22:49] but penguins don't like jungles... [22:49] he likes monkeys=\ [22:49] well not anymore [22:49] edman007, ok you can come paint the penguins [22:50] i'm coming over tonight in a monkey suit and i'm going to scare him silly, he will forever be afraid of monkies [22:50] nix_chix0r, i can use giant printers [22:50] you have to pay [22:50] why i always gota pay [22:50] well i'm just a contractor working on it, you pay me and reimburse me for the parts [22:51] i'm coming over tonight in a {insert anything here}, he'll be forever afraid of {whatever you inserted previously} [22:51] D3lahunt, yup [22:51] dive: In the acpi folder there are existing thinkpad-brightness-up , down etc scripts, also, I have no idea how to check if thinkpad acpi is loaded ive been trying to figure that out [22:51] for i in /dev/random_animals; do echo "i'm coming over tonight in a " $i " he'll be forever afraid of "$i; done [22:51] dive: and Im not sure how to use them [22:51] D3lahunt, as long as i pay [22:51] ThinkPadX200, lsmod | grep acpi [22:51] it's the animal INSIDE the suit that's the problem 8-) [22:51] pft [22:52] nix_chix0r, | grep phobia [22:52] ThinkPadX200, if it isn't loaded then modprobe thinkpad-acpi [22:53] Action: nix_chix0r takes all edman007 's loot [22:53] Action: edman007 notes his "loot" is bobbietrapped [22:54] whatever [22:54] dive: lsmod | grep acpi --- does that search loaded modules and return only results containing acpi? [22:54] yes [22:54] well it does retunr thinkpad_acpi, among others [22:54] whatevv [22:54] ok [22:55] best have a look at those scripts in acpi. I don't need them for my T42 so maybe they are significant. [22:55] Action: edman007 knocks nix_chix0r out, hogties her, and puts her in his trunk [22:55] =) [22:57] slackaholic (1000@187-24-241-116.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:58] you 2 are so romantic [22:58] dive: The brightness up script is too long too paste here, yet also too advanced for me to understand [22:58] ThinkPadX200, http://pastebin.slackadelic.com [22:59] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:59] antiwire (antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("She talks to angels, says they call her out by name."). [23:00] ThinkPadX200, also have a look at /etc/acpi/events/default or any other files in events [23:01] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.249.169) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:01] dive: I'll paste the one for brightness up [23:02] k [23:02] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/yRldQg83.html [23:02] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Quit: senate/irc:0.1b -- by cyberpunk.. [23:02] correcaminos (~luis.agui@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [23:02] correcaminos (~luis.agui@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:03] correcaminos (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [23:03] where did you get those scripts from? [23:03] ThinkPadX200, ^^ [23:04] They're were in /etc/acpi/ (i should mention im not on slack) [23:04] yeah I thought as much [23:04] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [23:05] well maybe there's something in /etc/acpi/events/ [23:05] sounds like you may need switch those scripts off and try [23:05] thinkpad brightness up and down are in /events [23:05] other than that I don't know - there is a linux-thinkpad mailing list could help more perhaps [23:06] try chmod -x them [23:06] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [23:06] what program can I use to split a large mp3 files into smaller files [23:06] the brightness up event is "event =imb/hotkey HKEY 00000080 00001010" [23:07] "action=/etc/acpi/thinkpad-brightness-up.sh" [23:07] probably need convert it to wav and use audacity cryptic0 [23:07] Deiz (~swh@unaffiliated/deiz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:07] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-76-226.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] oh, is it easier that way? [23:07] imb = ibm [23:07] because I have wav file anyway [23:07] well to split a wav may be possible in other progs like xforge etc [23:08] zaemis (tboronczy@pool-71-176-79-207.syrcny.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [23:08] audacity is probably the best one for it I would think [23:08] brb [23:08] NyteOwl (sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: Molon Labe [23:08] how do I just run a script to see if it does anything [23:08] Anyone ever dealt with "hdd password frozen" in the bios? Apparently it's just an error, the drive boots just fine w/out a password. [23:09] cryptic0, but yeah the usual way is to convert to wav first, then split, then reencode to mp3 [23:09] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:09] ThinkPadX200, just put /path/to/script [23:09] dive: interesting. I didn't know that [23:09] I am compiling audacity [23:10] dive: Returns line3: dmidecode: command not found; open: permission denied [23:11] sounds like you need to install dmidecode then [23:11] Looks like dmidecode is available in apt-get I could try installing it [23:11] and run the script as root [23:11] or you will get more permission denieds [23:12] says its already newest ver [23:12] running as root returns no errors, but also has no effect on brightness [23:13] Dominian (dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:13] ThinkPadX200, is there an /etc/acpi/events/ dir? [23:14] someone can give me a hand yo compile latest x11 drivers [23:14] intel 2.10 [23:14] manhunter (~manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter) joined ##slackware. [23:15] hello, [23:15] can the slackware dvd be smaller ? [23:15] acidtripper, tried ./configure ; make ; make install ? [23:15] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.70.73) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [23:15] so that it can be installed in 5 gb [23:16] manhunter, it _can_ be installed in 5GB afaik [23:16] no, couse most of the time you have to specify some things with configure [23:16] if one installs full slackware dvd (recomended) , then overflow ocurs [23:16] is not as simple as configure make make install [23:16] dive: overflow ocurs [23:16] dive: low disk space [23:16] acidtripper, well yes but you are expected to look at ./configure --help [23:16] dive: how would i decide which package i should not select? [23:16] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [23:17] acidtripper, and then see what options you need. Usually --prefix=/usr is the starting point [23:17] manhunter, depends what you want to use [23:18] men i know that things, the problem is sometimes you have to set mesa dirvers and some thing.. time ago i compilled with slackbuild setting DRIVER= option but now i cant remember how it was :P [23:18] dive: i want to install slackware with kde and all gcc,g++ mysql audio code et [23:18] dive: but full dvd can not be selected , right ? [23:18] et? phone home? [23:19] yes, but full dvd doesn't mean you'll have source code [23:19] dive: now i remember.. i have to had full /x11 source [23:19] if you have the full slackware 13 dvd you have the source code [23:19] to do that [23:19] acidtripper, well I didn't have to do anything special when I installed latest ati driver but don't know for intel. [23:19] yes, but not installed man! [23:19] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:19] acidtripper: during installation , full dvd select (recomended) want to install in 5gb partition [23:20] greetings and salutations again [23:20] that's easy: cp -r /var/log/mount/source /mnt/ [23:20] yes, but that doesn't install source [23:20] (you can do that during/after/before install) [23:20] acidtripper: i don't need source code [23:20] hi andarius [23:20] acidtripper: how can i ignore source code [23:20] salutations dive [23:20] ? [23:20] acidchild, you can't 'install' source [23:20] you can but you can't run it [23:21] manhunter: what's your question? [23:21] dive: there is /etc/acpi/event dir yes [23:21] installling slackware full in 5gb partition [23:21] acidtripper: ^ [23:21] copying the source directory over is 'installing' the source, as that is Pat's build directory (complete with SlackBuild scripts and patches [if applicable]) [23:21] slackware does not have nor does it install any such thing as a source package [23:21] xdan779 (~daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:21] I call it poor partition planning. [23:21] selection full install. [23:22] yes [23:22] ThinkPadX200, the files in there are the ones that actually will be calling the lightup/down scripts. You could find which they are and edit them not to intercept the acpi call. [23:22] if you cp -r source over like i recommended, you can recompile anything you want, even all of slackware. i've been there, done it. [23:22] selecting* [23:22] ThinkPadX200, and not run the scripts. [23:22] so? [23:22] dive: are you suggesting I actually DONT want those scripts to run? How will the brightness be adjusted wtihout them? [23:22] much less, sorry, but if you don't know how to program in the programming languages that the source is in, i don't see what good 'installing [23:22] ' the source will do [23:22] ThinkPadX200, on mine the hardware takes care of it. [23:23] same here [23:23] ThinkPadX200, if it doesn't work then maybe linux-thinkpad mailing list is the best place to ask. [23:23] manhunter (~manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:23] jhell (~89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) joined ##slackware. [23:25] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [23:25] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Quit: There had better be some beer left when I get back! [23:25] I guess my first step would be to find out what key "ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 00001011 is [23:26] xev to check that? [23:26] maybe [23:26] do you use xfce? [23:26] kde [23:26] try the keyboard shortcut thingy [23:27] ThinkPadX200, try echo 'level 3' > /proc/acpi/ibm/brightness [23:28] no brightness folder in there [23:28] beep cmos driver ecdump fan hotkey led light thermal video volume [23:28] i guess these arent even folders either [23:29] ThinkPadX200, try editing your /etc/modprobe.d/thinkpad_acpi.conf : options thinkpad_acpi brightness_mode=0 brightness_enable=1 [23:29] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [23:29] add those vars if there is already options there [23:30] then rmmod thinkpad-acpi && modprobe thinkpad-acpi [23:31] ok one sec [23:31] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:32] ThinkPadX200, which distro by the way? [23:32] thinkpad_acpi.modprobe? [23:33] maybe [23:33] what's in it? [23:33] im on debian 5.0.4 [23:33] theres a bunch of stuff in this file [23:34] pastebin? [23:34] and your fee for this session is to buy something rom the slackware store ;-) [23:35] @_@ [23:36] I cant seem to scroll to select it all [23:36] in less [23:36] or nano i mean [23:36] is there a line that begins 'options thinkpad-acpi..'? [23:37] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/tSENNk19.html [23:38] ok on the last line add brightness_mode=0 brightness_enable=1 [23:38] acidtripper (~gonza@190.193.18.19) left irc: Quit: I'm Leaving guys! see you soon... [23:38] althought that mask may be enabling or disabling who knows what [23:39] that is the line that begins 'options' I mean [23:39] add it to then end [23:40] done [23:40] do i need to reload something now [23:40] before i would see a result if it were to work [23:40] now 'rmmod thinkpad-acpi && modprobe thinkpad-acpi' [23:41] done [23:41] still no brightness though [23:42] well that's pretty much all you should need to do [23:42] is there now a brightness file in /proc/acpi/ibm/? [23:43] yes [23:43] aha [23:43] echo 'level 3' > /proc/acpi/ibm/brightness [23:44] omg [23:44] my brightness just changed [23:44] when i did that [23:45] Action: D3lahunt is surprised kde can't automagically do that for you [23:45] peacedog (~peacedog@pool-71-254-81-30.lyncva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Peace out ;-) [23:45] ok so now you just need to fix the scripts in /etc/acpi to do echo up/down to that file [23:46] echo level 7 to get full brightness back [23:46] my range is 0-15 [23:46] ah well 15 then [23:47] it works im able to change it via this echo [23:47] cat /proc/acpi/ibm/brightness will show all options [23:47] so to solve this so far I had to enable a couple of options in my thinkpad_acpi file [23:47] yeah but having the proper keys do it via acpi is better imo [23:47] yeah module options [23:47] and now i need to update the scripts to allow me to do it with the fn keys [23:48] yes [23:48] know bash scripting? [23:48] no, less than a month on linux [23:48] if on_ac_power; then [23:48] 1 day on debian here, before that slack for 3 weeks 2 years ago [23:48] echo 15 > wherever/the/brightness/is [23:48] else [23:48] echo whatever > wherever [23:48] fi [23:49] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/yRldQg83.html [23:49] the on_ac_power program returns 0 (true) if you are plugged in, 1 (false) if you are not [23:49] thats the current script for brightness up [23:49] which also only runs when im root I think [23:49] delt0r (~delt0r@62-47-135-4.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:49] and of course, doesnt work currently [23:49] ThinkPadX200, does ls find this file: /usr/share/acpi-support/key-constants ? [23:50] I think so [23:50] when i type that it returns that dir [23:50] hmm should be a regular file not a dr I think [23:51] yeah sry [23:51] it is [23:51] lots of stuff in here [23:51] "key_brightnessdown=224" "key_brightnessup=225 [23:51] can you run this as root: manufacturer=`dmidecode --string system-manufacturer` [23:52] then echo $manufacturer [23:52] the first command takes me to > [23:53] each line is > [23:53] the echo command returns nothing [23:53] then you missed a ` [23:53] youre right [23:54] then echo $manufacturer [23:54] dmidecode --string system-manufacturer [23:54] is the return [23:55] er [23:55] make sure you put those backticks in [23:55] `` [23:55] are those not this ' [23:55] no [23:55] oh i see [23:55] its the tilde key [23:55] let me try again [23:55] manufacturer=$(dmidecode --string system-manufacturer) [23:55] try that [23:56] wondering how the hell my kernel upgrade worked earlier i entered ' instead of ` in a command [23:56] guess i got lucky [23:56] Ryzor (~King@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:57] now it returns nothing [23:57] "manufacturer=`dmidecode --string system-manufacturer` [23:57] except that " at the beginning i didnt type that [23:58] right now echo $manufacturer [23:58] LENOVO [23:58] ok good [23:59] now you need to edit those brightnessup/down scripts where they say 'exit' on line 6 [00:00] --- Sun Feb 21 2010