[00:00] take a look [00:00] PiterPunk: Why is it *NOT* in the updates then HMM!? [00:00] :D [00:00] oooh, new email from Slackware-security (ruby) [00:00] But yeah, case stickers. [00:00] I need some nice ones for my servers. [00:00] danc3: libpng as well [00:00] and a x/mesa regression [00:00] Why does car mechanics always have to be such a pain a 10 minute job takes 4 hours [00:00] selling lager across state lines without a license is ok ... right? [00:00] DeeeeP (n=ngomes@bl8-108-163.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:00] volkerdi: i've said it before and i'll say it again, thank you, you're awesome. [00:00] grrr [00:00] What percentage alcohol content would an official Slackware beer contain? [00:00] 99 [00:00] Action: Motoko-chan is using self-made ones with double-stick tape and a top of packing tape for lamination [00:00] Dominian: didn't get that email yet... [00:00] danc3: :D [00:00] 42% [00:00] 10% [00:00] danc3: your email server sucks then :) [00:00] 105% [00:00] no argument there [00:01] <_lee_> Dominian: wow, you could clean your engine with that :) [00:01] _lee_: oh yes [00:01] and my intestines.. my throat.... [00:01] <_lee_> and wounds [00:01] _lee_: Or run it. [00:01] I think Mr V has gone afk [00:01] I think the stuff I used to brew was usually 4 - 5% abv [00:01] nah [00:01] 150% super saturated, somehow. [00:01] Motoko-chan: I think we just type faster than he does ;P [00:01] Maybe [00:01] I'm multitasking [00:01] volkerdi: That's no good man! Gotta be 8%. [00:02] Action: Motoko-chan is trying to [00:02] hello slackers [00:02] Hey dtanner, how's it going? [00:02] whats the difference between slackware 12.2 and -current? [00:02] evening dtanner [00:02] Anyone here know if the OSE version of VBox supports SCSI? [00:02] Hi nachox, how are you? [00:02] nvm i asked [00:02] missyjane: -current is almost to 13.0 [00:02] I know SATA is explicitly said to not be. [00:02] missyjane: a lot of pixie dust. [00:02] lol [00:02] haha [00:02] missyjane: One is 12.2 and one is -current. http://www.slackbook.org/ [00:02] <_lee_> Alabama just voted to increase their legal beer alcoholic content. woohoo [00:02] Alan_Hicks: I could always make a Trappist style and load it full of Belgian candy sugar before the ferment [00:02] i know i just remembered [00:02] missyjane, current is what will become slackware next, 12.2 is slackware's stable version [00:02] hey firebird619 , nachox. I am doing good firebird619, yourself? [00:02] Alan_Hicks: oh thats harsh [00:02] missyjane: you don't want to even think about using current... [00:02] volkerdi: bit hard to multitask when I've got a few beers in me... [00:02] <|Slacker|> Motoko-chan, I have a SATA hd and it worked fine um VBox OSE [00:02] dtanner: doing excellent, thank you. :) [00:02] :( i was going to danc3 ... [00:02] Action: Dominian has to be careful.. he's doing data backups he he [00:03] missyjane: don't do it [00:03] |Slacker|, a virtual scsi adapter. [00:03] missyjane: You're not ready for -current. [00:03] i find it hard to do anything when i'm this hung-over [00:03] <|Slacker|> oh....then I dunno [00:03] If you have to ask about -current, then you probably aren't prepared. [00:03] spook: Drink another beer and you'll be fine. [00:03] what's -current? [00:03] :P [00:03] "probably".... LOL [00:03] <_lee_> I just lost my -current. :| [00:03] Alan_Hicks: no beer in the house :( [00:03] firebird619, i'm quite happy, it's been a long while since i last saw someone setup a linux with the magic username/password convination (root/root)... till this week [00:03] Motoko-chan: btw.. if you noticed the slackforum down for a bit.. I do apologize... unforeseen circumstances out of my control... [00:04] Alan_Hicks: shot of rum okay? [00:04] Dominian: It's the flow of water caused by gravitational force. [00:04] spook: Sure, why not? [00:04] Dominian, I gave up on that. [00:04] Alan_Hicks: oh... [00:04] Although with volkerdi in here... [00:04] Alan_Hicks: so urination? [00:04] Action: Alan_Hicks got a little Captain in him last weekend. [00:04] tmi!! [00:04] hahahaha [00:04] I was flirting with running a Slackware-specific help forum. [00:04] rofl [00:04] uhhhh [00:04] alright ive never setup home on a partition before, so im gonna go a step ahead and ask if i can truecrypt the partition... somehow magically get slackware to know its a truecrypt partition..... [00:04] Interested in the idea, volkerdi ? [00:04] :| [00:04] Motoko-chan: you tease you [00:04] Alan_Hicks: .. those things are best saved for group [00:05] hello volkerdi. good to see you around again. =) btw , nice to meet you virtually after all these years. [00:05] missyjane: theres an FAQ on the dvd/cd about encrypting [00:05] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [00:05] dtanner: its a Supybot.. very well programmed [00:05] Missy, you want an encrypted /home? [00:05] missyjane: README_CRYPT.TXT [00:05] Action: Dominian wants encrypted EVERYTHING [00:05] swap, root, home [00:05] I want an encrypted dwelling. [00:05] i should just have dinner, i think i'm starving... [00:05] good night all work in 7 hours [00:05] missyjane: Read that first, and if you're intimidated, don't do it. [00:06] missyjane: I you want to run current you should set it up on an alternate partition, do not run it live until you are sure of the functionality and that you know how to use the newer apps. [00:06] Action: spook thinks of the xkcd about encryption [00:06] Dominian, felling paranoia? :) [00:06] Action: chess settles down with another bottle... [00:06] nachox: nah [00:06] Action: Alan_Hicks is currently out of beer. [00:06] nachox: Mainly beacuse I use my laptop for work and personal stuff. [00:06] nachox: omnomnomnom [00:06] No wonder my productivity is shit. [00:06] Action: chess hands one to Alan_Hicks [00:06] nachox: now if you asked about slackadelic.. yes.. I'm paranoid on slackadelic now :P [00:06] chess: Only one?! [00:06] Dominian, just encrypt the p0rn stuff then, no need for the rest :P [00:06] <_alisonken1churc> Dominian: Well, that was fun. Just finished re-imaging the sister-in-law's XP laptop. Four hours yesterday getting the HP restore DVD's (4) back onto the laptop, and 7 hours today with system updates and her stuff that I saved [00:06] Action: chess hands the cooler to Alan_Hicks [00:07] Action: spook eats nachox [00:07] bbiab.. wife on phone [00:07] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-16-129.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:07] _alisonken1churc, ugh, I don't do Windows work for free, not for ANYONE [00:07] "sorry honey i'm still at the office" [00:07] grabs cooler and heads to the lake for fishing [00:08] spook, no cheese? .... [00:08] _alisonken1churc: Easiest way I've found is to tar |nc the stuff to a linux box, then xcopy it back over a samba share. Definitely the quickest. [00:08] rob0: my aunt gave me my cousin's laptop to fix. it had so much shit on it i just put slackware on it [00:08] <_alisonken1churc> rob0: she offered, but the wife doesn't want me to accept. I mentioned pain and suffering, but she riposte'd with hers or mine? [00:08] nachox: i think thats implied. [00:08] spook++ [00:08] <_alisonken1churc> Alan_Hicks: Ended up using winscp [00:08] blerg [00:09] _alisonken1churc: No wonder it took you so damn long. [00:09] <_alisonken1churc> well, 19G of stuff still takes a while [00:09] should of used a hammer [00:09] ssh blows for speedy transfer of bulk data. It's good for small stuff occasionaly use, but not much else. [00:09] tar -czf - | nc [00:09] so whats wrong with stock kernel? [00:09] <_alisonken1churc> true - but it's the only port I have enabled on the home machine [00:09] _alisonken1churc: Probably less than an hour on samba with xcopy. [00:09] missyjane: nothing really. [00:09] ssh/scp is slow [00:10] missyjane, poor paint job. [00:10] Depending on number of small files and the like. [00:10] haha [00:10] uses xcopy at work [00:10] lol [00:10] <_alisonken1churc> and samba's not installed since it's still setup for the previous stuff [00:10] tar -czf - | nc 69.69.69.69 nc -l | tar -zxf - [00:10] alright [00:10] _alisonken1churc: ftp would be much faster even then. [00:10] Blame Andrea V. for the kernel's paint! [00:10] <_alisonken1churc> spook: that assumes you have tar available on the laptop in XP [00:11] <_alisonken1churc> Alan_Hicks: slowdown was the network bottleneck [00:11] _alisonken1churc: thats what the hammer is for. [00:11] <_alisonken1churc> spook: I wish - but she's going overseas in a few months [00:11] _alisonken1churc: I doubt it. IME, ssh/scp/sftp/sshfs can't transfer data faster than about 4 or 5Mb. [00:11] hehe [00:11] volkerdi, what do you think of my idea? [00:12] _alisonken1churc: you hit the laptop until it has netcat and tar. or it doesnt turn on anymore, whichever comes first [00:12] rob0: Andrea has her hands full with the little one, and hasn't done the kernel compiles for a while now [00:12] <_alisonken1churc> I had her on linux, but middle of last year she had me put XP back on for her itunes store [00:12] I almost never get over 2Mb with ssh. [00:12] <_alisonken1churc> spook: :) [00:12] volkerdi: if you ever come to australia i'll take you out drinking, my shout. [00:12] volkerdi: Just tie a lease around her neck. She won't go far. Then Andrea is free to compile kernels. [00:12] I still blame her, she could at least teach the baby to fingerpaint! [00:13] im curious [00:13] strictly curious [00:13] Not bicurious? [00:13] Action: Alan_Hicks is an asshole. [00:13] <_alisonken1churc> or omnicurious? [00:13] oh no! not "strictly" [00:13] if lets say you guys encountered the problems i had just now, in an office or corporate environment, what would you guys have done if full reinstall or full install were not allowed? [00:13] spook, won't netcat complain if you don't give it ports? [00:13] Alan_Hicks: not asscurious? [00:13] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-29-108.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [00:13] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [00:13] hiptobecubic: i'm hungover, give me a break [00:13] <_alisonken1churc> hiptobecubic: depends on your setup/config [00:13] missyjane: What exactly was your problem? [00:14] _alisonken1churc, ok [00:14] rob0: The "baby" is now 3. She can open the laptop, start it up, pick the correct OS from LILO, log into KDE, start Firefox, and pick "PBS kids" (she likes that) from the bookmarks. [00:14] missyjane: I i had to do what you are doing in a corporate office I would have manually done the upgrade rather than relying on a tool, that would ensure that everything was captured [00:14] mfillpot, but lets assume the previous guy were fired for this, and you are to fill in and fix this [00:15] volkerdi: Jokers sprout up fast don't they? [00:15] <_alisonken1churc> volkerdi: Mine's 7, and he's been doing that in KDE on the desktop for a couple of years now. Including PBS Kids [00:15] Cool [00:15] volkerdi: they are like dogs that slowly learn how to talk [00:15] Action: Motoko-chan is ignored ;_; [00:15] I don't think I ever saw a computer until I was 7 or 8. [00:15] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.33.166) joined ##slackware. [00:15] missyjane: I would audit all programs prior to a manual install to make sure that everything would be included [00:15] Motoko-chan: it would help if you said what your idea was [00:15] Alan_Hicks, this http://img44.imageshack.us/i/dsc05811.jpg/ [00:15] Of course, back then it was "look, but don't touch". [00:15] volkerdi: She will be coding up slackbuilds by the time she is 7. [00:15] <_alisonken1churc> volkerdi: he even knew to switch to another desktop rather than clutter up the one that's showing [00:16] Action: Motoko-chan will paste [00:16] I was flirting with running a Slackware-specific help forum. [00:16] Interested in the idea, volkerdi ? [00:16] i get that when i adduser, then startx, then hit ctrl+alt+f1 to read why its stuck on "System Initializing" [00:16] missyjane: Oh wow! mimetypes! You definitely broke a library there. If the corporate office didn't allow you to do the re-install and you didn't know the solution, then the best thing to do would be to call IT. [00:17] Motoko-chan: What wrong with LQ? [00:17] It's too general. It'd be nice to have a focused forum. [00:17] they have focused forums on LQ [00:17] the slackware forum at LQ is too general? [00:17] Yeah, I don't see the problem with LQ. [00:17] Something with a Slackware brand on it. [00:17] Okay. [00:18] Alan_Hicks, i tried slackpkg reinstall shared-mime-info and what Patrick suggested, /usr/bin/update-mime-database /usr/share/mime [00:18] one thing the world doesn't need is YAF. (Yet Another Forum) [00:18] or another blog [00:18] Action: Motoko-chan was thinking of TOF (The One Forum) [00:18] damn you guys for making me thirsty [00:18] heh [00:18] Patrick has spoken, so shall it be done. [00:18] One ring! [00:19] Yes! [00:19] Motoko-chan: I think the slackware forum at LQ is pretty well established. it would be hard to start a new one, IMHO. [00:19] Three forums for Slackware-kings under the sky [00:19] it would be cool if Patrick was called TOM (The One Maintainer) [00:19] s/nearly_impossible/hard [00:19] Seven for the Debian-lords in their halls of bickering, [00:19] Wow, am I glad I'm not The One Maintainer! [00:20] He could wear The One Ring [00:20] Nine for Ubuntu users doomed to die, [00:20] One for the Slack Lord on his Bob throne. [00:20] jescis (n=jescis@adsl-80-49-150.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "upgraded kernel and all now must restart/reboot" [00:20] nah, Noobuntu users don't get any rings [00:20] Alan_Hicks, you said i borked a library, do you know which package? [00:20] In the land of Slackware where the hackers lie. [00:20] One Forum to rule them all, One forum to find them, [00:21] I will just live in Rivendale and slack away. [00:21] where's my d20? ;-) [00:21] One Forum to bring them all and with good beer bind them. [00:21] Alan_Hicks: you sure you're not drinking? [00:21] lol [00:21] In the land of Slackware where the hackers lie. [00:21] you ain't right [00:22] d20 are old news. You need a d200. [00:22] Action: Alan_Hicks ain't ever been accused of being right. [00:22] heh [00:22] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) left irc: "Leaving" [00:22] Action: chess thinks Alan_Hicks is writing a song "Ode to Slackware Forums" [00:22] volkerdi: If you were the one maintainer, you'd have to cast the One Forum into the Cracks of Doom. [00:22] Around here, that's straterra's ass. [00:22] lol [00:22] hahaha [00:22] /quit [00:22] haha [00:23] That's going on twitter. [00:23] s/twitter/noobfarm/ [00:23] who is going to write a "Hints" file for the new xorg? at least the most common questions that have been popping up. [00:23] Alan_Hicks: thank god [00:23] i should convert to sub-genius and start taking advantage of religious holidays [00:24] Action: chess goes to get another beer [00:24] Action: missyjane disappointed about the beer topic [00:24] anything but beer or drugs :( [00:24] spook: You're a Discordian Pope. There. Now you have to eat hot dogs on Lenten Fridays. [00:24] Alan_Hicks, that's something i didnt need to read, i can now almost see the toxic farts [00:25] hm why is slackpkg reinstall * listing my files in my folders? o.O [00:25] nachox: Where do you think all that ash and smoke in Mordor came from? [00:25] Action: dtanner puffs his fresh hand rolled cigar. check out the live rollers cam -> http://www.livecigarrollers.com/rollercam.php. pretty good smokes too. i just got back from 6th street. [00:25] Alan_Hicks: it came from my cigar [00:25] this puts the lord of the rings movie in a whole different perspective [00:26] (##slackware) Channel ban on %percussion!*@* expired. [00:26] ##slackware: mode change '-b %percussion!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [00:26] Action: chess loves his beer opener with Homer Simpson saying "Mmmm...beer" when the bottle is opened [00:27] Have fun folks, gotta run [00:28] Yeah, me too. I need to get started on a new chew and installing openvpn on this linksys router. [00:28] have a good Father's Day weekend volkerdi :-) [00:28] later [00:28] Oh shit! [00:28] dtanner: One last thing... I'm not sure I know what the most common questions about the new X.Org are. Hopefully the Mesa adjustment will fix most of the stability issues. [00:28] Action: Alan_Hicks makes a reminder to buy something for his Daddy. [00:28] volkerdi: thanks for many years of slackware. [00:28] dtanner: But if you or anyone else wants to start compiling a list... [00:29] <_alisonken1churc> here here [00:29] dtanner: you're welcome [00:29] volkerdi: been using slack since 3.1 [00:29] volkerdi: thanks for making me a discordian pope [00:29] slKIvs (n=ivan@64.104.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:29] <_alisonken1churc> I've been using it since the sls days [00:29] haven't looked back [00:29] spook: I was merely informing you that you already were. ;-) [00:29] volkerdi: indeed. [00:29] & [00:29] volkerdi (i=3321@slackware.com) left irc: "leaving" [00:30] If you have a problem [00:30] and no one else can help [00:30] and you can find them [00:30] yo i'll solve it [00:30] maybe you can hire, THE SLACK TEAM [00:30] check out the mix while the DJ revolves it [00:30] hm [00:30] Action: nachox yawns and is off to have dinner [00:31] or the SLACK TEAM... [00:31] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.142.200) joined ##slackware. [00:31] later nachox , enjoy. [00:31] HEY EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHAT'S GREAT? [00:31] OTHER THAN TYPING IN CAPS [00:31] lol [00:31] hiptobecubic: Slackware? [00:31] the universe [00:31] hiptobecubic: beer? [00:31] Currently is there any linux based that implementes OpenCL or planning to support it in near future for the multi core CPUs? Tried asking in #linux [00:32] poona: no. [00:32] the black hole [00:32] poona: ask nvidia, not us [00:32] ALL GOOD GUESSES, BUT THE ANSWER IS "NOT HAVING A GODDAMN UP-ARROW KEY" [00:32] hiptobecubic: has that changed your life? :) [00:32] hiptobecubic: yes you do, it's right next to your ANY key [00:32] and why would that be great? [00:32] hiptobecubic: rebind the home key [00:33] the best part about it is that when you're trying to fix it, you have to keep typing !! and history and using copy paste to redo commands [00:33] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:33] spook, i /have/ the key. but evdev doesn't like it for some reason. As far as i can tell it works fine, it just doesn't have a keycode all of the sudden [00:33] hiptobecubic: sorry, can you repeat what you just said? :P [00:33] typing "!!" [00:34] spook, .. [00:34] damn you [00:34] hiptobecubic: sorry what was that? [00:34] slKIvs (n=ivan@64.104.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [00:35] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@190.2.40.57 expired. [00:35] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@190.2.40.57' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [00:35] lol [00:35] spook, no more hangover points fo ryou [00:35] hiptobecubic: didnt catch that last bit [00:35] Man, screw it. The up arrow is for jerks anyway. [00:35] that shot of rum REALLY hit the spot [00:35] does slackpkg work with .txz? [00:35] edman007, yes [00:35] edman007: it uses pkgtools so... [00:36] <_alisonken1churc> edman007: it was updated with package manager [00:36] spook, and a shell script to find the packages, right? does it find the .txz packages? [00:36] how would it be any different? [00:36] edman007, "yes" [00:36] <_alisonken1churc> edman007: ^^^^^ [00:36] it uses PACKAGES.TXT [00:36] spook, ahh [00:37] Action: spook loves how slackpkg works [00:37] guess ill install 12.2 then... hm... [00:37] Action: edman007 thought it used regex [00:37] in theory only pkgtools would need to be updated [00:37] Action: hiptobecubic loved retyping edman007, "yes" [00:37] slackid (n=willysr@125.163.251.150) joined ##slackware. [00:37] hiptobecubic: just be careful what you say "yes" to. [00:38] firebird619, "yes" [00:38] edman007: don't you watch what happens when you slackpkg update ? [00:38] jota- (n=jota@190.6.6.247) joined ##slackware. [00:38] edman007: How long was your flight delayed then? [00:38] can i downgrade? [00:38] missyjane: good call, it is so stable it is almost boring. I guess i better get busy upgrading to -current so i can move to 13.0 easily and quickly [00:38] Action: chess heads to bed [00:38] missyjane: no. [00:38] 'night al [00:38] good night chess [00:38] firebird619, only like 20 minutes [00:38] *all [00:38] edman007: oh that isn't bad. [00:39] later chess [00:39] rofl [00:39] >.> [00:39] dtanner: well when 13 is release, -current IS 13 [00:39] spook, kinda...i just look at the list, and its not showing any .txz packages [00:39] edman007: it downloads PACKAGES.TXT [00:39] i should read the changelog and see if that is right [00:40] yes , that is what i said essentially. and btw as of right now -current is not 13.0. there will be more changes. i want to be as close as i can be. [00:40] is kde4 out of testing in -current? [00:40] spook, yea, and maybe thats because it thinks its funny [00:40] it converts it into its own format [00:41] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [00:41] beej71 (n=beej@zork.zork.net) left irc: "Client exiting" [00:41] im curious [00:41] doesnt slackpkg help upgrade 12.1 to 12.2? [00:42] if so, what did i do wrong then? [00:42] missyjane: bicurious? [00:42] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:42] haha [00:42] spook i am bicurious as you know tho [00:42] pretty sure 12.1 -> 12.2 isnt something thats recommended [00:42] missyjane: i know many things yes [00:42] spook, my philosophy with upgrades is if you can handle the consequences of a failed upgrade than don't bother checking anything, and just cross your fingers and delay the reboots and deal with the issues as they arise [00:42] beej71 (n=beej@zork.zork.net) joined ##slackware. [00:42] hm [00:42] because ive been told that people pcan do system upgrades with it [00:43] walken_ (n=walken@c75.158.250-49.clta.globetrotter.net) left irc: "Quitte" [00:43] alisonken told me its not esier but at least 2-3 other ppl said his method was harder (having a home, etc) [00:43] Do you, The-Croupier, take missyjane.... [00:43] im going to make a partition now, then im gonna rsync home to the new partition [00:43] lol chopp [00:43] and give her a job? hell yes [00:44] erhm [00:44] its a dude [00:45] k, im a dude [00:45] missyjane, slackpkg does not check the order the packages things go in, and it can and will cause issues with some packages, notably glibc and pkgtools, it sucks when you upgrade tar and then upgradepkg suddenly breaks because you don't have a recent version of glibc and you can't upgrade it because your package manager is broke [00:45] hm [00:45] dont you upgrade the important ones first manually [00:45] spook, yea, that works [00:45] missyjane: just follow UPGRADE.TXT [00:46] get glibc and anything else specifically mentioned in the UPGRADE.TXT, and then use slackpkg [00:47] my mistake is being overconfident :'( [00:48] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.142.200) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [00:48] missyjane, fail [00:48] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Success [00:48] lol [00:50] don't point your cannon at me missyjane [00:50] Action: missyjane is confused [00:50] makes me nervous [00:50] straterra, how come you think im a dude? [00:50] i love painting my 40k figurines [00:50] lol < looks like you are looking down the barrel of a canon [00:50] i'm off to bed [00:50] maybe i'll figure out this up arrow thing tomorrow [00:50] youve admitted it before [00:50] night all [00:51] later hiptobecubic [00:51] when you first came here [00:51] o.O are you sure i wasnt being sarcastic? [00:51] yes [00:51] can you remind me?> [00:51] you pmed me and told me to knock it off [00:51] you goti it fron everywhere else too [00:52] hm i cant find our log [00:52] we spoke before? [00:52] yes [00:52] can you pm the log to me? [00:52] no [00:52] wait, while you are at it [00:52] im about to go to bed [00:52] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.33.166) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:52] check to see if the person who used missyjane authenticated [00:52] hiptobecubic (n=john@pool-173-65-85-6.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Hewlett Packard makes terrible consumer laptops." [00:52] :| so its someone who pretended to be me [00:52] uhm [00:53] no one wants to be you [00:53] that was the point [00:53] err what [00:53] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:53] nobody likes me = people will do things like this [00:53] im going to bed [00:54] no one cares enough at all [00:54] you care enough to bring it up saying im a guy at least 3 times tho :x [00:54] its strange [00:54] good night straterra [00:54] night [00:55] what a liar [00:57] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:58] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left irc: "[BX] Elvis has left the building" [01:03] w0rmh0le (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) joined ##slackware. [01:03] ok im going now, gonna try to solve this problem, ill figure it out one way or another without this needing to do a full reinstall [01:03] :) i always do [01:03] hello, how to mount squashfs image? [01:03] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [01:05] any ideas? [01:07] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. 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[02:06] Linux slack64 2.6.29.5 #2 SMP Thu Jun 18 13:15:33 CDT 2009 x86_64 Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 285 SE AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux [02:06] :> [02:10] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [02:13] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [02:13] jeev, the -current version is ok ? [02:14] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: ":)" [02:14] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "()" [02:15] I'm thinking in install the slamd64 because i don't know that slack64 is so unstable. [02:15] unstable? [02:15] if you mean "unstable, because parts of it are going to be changed a lot" then yes [02:15] if you mean [02:16] "unstable because it crashes and doesn't work", then no [02:17] Urchlay, dude you've been here all day? [02:17] hmm [02:17] you know if it's possible to update from slamd64 to slack64 ? [02:17] ferdna: well, not glued to my keyboard, no [02:17] hahaha [02:17] cool [02:17] beej71 (n=beej@zork.zork.net) left irc: "Client exiting" [02:17] Havacci: it's possible, yes [02:18] Hey Urchlay [02:18] hmm thanks by the answers ! [02:19] hey firebird619 [02:22] jkwood (n=jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:22] jkwood (n=jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) joined ##slackware. [02:22] huskell (n=frb@p5B0EC08C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [02:24] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-135-181.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:24] Havacci, it might be possible but i would recommend a clean install (assuming your /home is separate) [02:25] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [02:26] beej71 (n=beej@zork.zork.net) joined ##slackware. [02:26] beej71 (n=beej@zork.zork.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:27] anyone else having problems with pidgin with yahoo? just wondering (it might be a local thing) [02:27] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:28] Action: nix_chix0r breakdances [02:28] Action: TwinReverb breakbones 8-S [02:29] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: Client Quit [02:29] hey nix_chix0r, how are you? [02:29] great now that it's fucking friday [02:29] TwinReverb: ouch, which ones? ;) [02:30] this week was so horrible [02:30] howare you [02:30] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [02:30] doing excellent, thanks. [02:30] 111bucks for each tire [02:30] blahhhhhhhh [02:30] wow [02:30] bbiab [02:30] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [02:30] they are good for 70kthough [02:30] k [02:31] beej71 (n=beej@zork.zork.net) joined ##slackware. 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[02:35] firebird619, just a joke really, but i did break my tibia last time i was here (2004/2005) [02:36] mainly an "i can't dance" joke [02:36] only thing about me is the way I talk... [02:36] Urchlay, what wrong with your way you talk? [02:36] eh [02:36] that's the next like in the "I can't dance" song [02:36] (phil collins?) [02:38] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_Q457AbjJo&feature=PlayList&p=7A07FCC90EE22212&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=7 [02:38] hi [02:38] Urchlay, when you say the way you talk...i remembered this..;) quite funny [02:39] Urchlay, yes [02:39] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:40] beej71 (n=beej@zork.zork.net) joined ##slackware. [02:41] actually the next line is "i can't talk" [02:41] Hi The-Croupier [02:41] oh, right [02:41] ain't really that big a fan of phil collins anyway [02:41] nostalgia fail 8-) [02:42] TwinReverb: I figured it was, and my comment was more a joke as well, but it maybe didn't come across as such. :P [02:42] firebird619, anyway [02:42] firebird619, it's all good [02:42] 8-) [02:43] :) [02:43] TwinReverb: so how are you doing? Did you ever get that laptop sold? [02:44] Ekc (n=iskar@77-85-30-36.btc-net.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [02:44] "I want my... I want my... I want my MTV!" [02:45] nix_chix0r: they should last a while then, sure expensive though. :) [02:45] well it needed to be done. tires were completely bare [02:45] yikes, that's not good [02:45] sorta hydroplaning at hardly any rain [02:46] then it was for sure a necessity. [02:47] lvinyl_ (n=guapoenc@190.245.121.39) joined ##slackware. [02:48] firebird619, she didn't want it after all [02:48] that's too bad. [02:49] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-132-86.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:49] watching tv bloopers on youtube...they are awsome [02:50] "That aint workin, that's the way you do it, play the geetar on the MTV..." [02:50] Dire Straits rocks [02:50] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [02:51] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [02:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WISVg2NI5YU&feature=related <-- guys have a laugh..this is awsome [02:53] Urchlay, yeah i like sultans of swing [02:53] my favorite [02:54] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@petrostsi1.ath.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Java user signed off" [02:56] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-135-181.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:56] not a bad song, good stratocaster quack [02:57] the bowling one is awesome [02:57] omfg [02:58] love the way that guy plays lead. 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[03:23] ??? if i install slack in full, annd i have a p3 and 256ram, should i uninstall kde or xfce to make it faster? [03:24] nixpac3 (n=tiddiete@209.60.24.66) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:26] unistall them wont make Slack faster. not using them will.. [03:26] He left. :P [03:26] but they are both easy to leave out of the installation process i suppose [03:27] heh [03:27] must not have been too important. [03:27] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434127.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:30] wow flintstones hour [03:30] <3 the flintstones [03:37] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-170-215-49.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:39] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [03:40] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:48] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.6.222) joined ##slackware. [03:58] suvir (n=suvir@ppp-124-120-236-64.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined ##slackware. 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[05:36] fallertsen (n=lupin@host157-161-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "leaving" [05:37] hahaha, I sense yet another change of the mesa package now that 7.4.3 is available ;p [05:44] the whole channel got drunk without me and now has a hangover ='( [05:44] lol [05:46] slKIvs (n=ivan@64.104.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: "Saliendo" [05:55] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:56] SteppenwolfII (n=greymaus@86-46-203-181-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) left irc: "Leaving" [05:57] Nick change: thetrooper -> turboceta [05:57] turboceta (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.2.6"). [05:57] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-122-10.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:11] gnutz (n=chatzill@c-75-71-58-7.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:12] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [06:13] Hello hello hello [06:13] hi The-Croupier [06:13] Camarade_Tux: hows it goin ;) [06:13] nice, thanks, and you ? [06:14] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.79.193) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:14] not bad... exam today for another 3hours.. so have to stay and be slacking a bit [06:14] ;) [06:14] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:14] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [06:14] haha, poor students, but they deserve it ;) [06:15] opengl? how do i know if its working with current config? nvidia vga,all drivers/kernelmodules installed...;) [06:15] glxinfo | grep render [06:15] do i have to do stuff in xorg.conf? i read something about current...etc [06:16] xlib extension glx missing on display [06:16] ;) [06:16] which distro? [06:17] current [06:17] Oh. Duh. [06:17] Forgot which room I was in... [06:18] thats why i didnt answer the distro question :p [06:18] The-Croupier, how fast does glxgears run ? [06:19] Camarade_Tux: at all ;) [06:19] Should be at least in the 100's. [06:19] xlib glx missing , couldnt get an rgb,double-buffered visual [06:20] Weird. A default install should include it. [06:20] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: "Leaving" [06:21] kama (n=kama@host40-230-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [06:22] maybe i havent done something in xorg... im looking at aliens wiki but nothing there...:( maybe somewhere else [06:24] Did you install it from nVIDIA's own driver? [06:24] gnutz: nope from sbo ;) [06:24] Hmmm... [06:24] Never tried that before. [06:24] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:25] Maybe their build is incompatible with -current. [06:25] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [06:25] The-Croupier: which one exactly? [06:26] the sbo package works well usually [06:26] nvidia-legacy96-driver-96.43.11-i586-1_SBo [06:26] oh, I'm not sure it updates the xorg.conf however [06:26] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:27] Camarade_Tux: no, it doesn't [06:27] Camarade_Tux: if i remember correctly there was a section in xorg.conf where you were supposed to put glx [06:27] probably too old, I think it won't work with current kernels, closed-source power :) [06:27] where is that [06:27] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [06:27] nvidia-legacy71-driver-71.86.09-i586-1_SBo [06:28] lol, nvidia.com shows vista's chess program as a demonstration of the capabilities of their latest geforce 200m series for laptops >< [06:28] The-Croupier: and the kernel module is loaded? (just to be sure) [06:28] ls /packages/ gives me lots of them in there [06:28] The-Croupier: Which card do you have? [06:28] The-Croupier: legacy71 does not work on -current [06:28] pprkut: how do i check that? lsmod [06:28] lsmod |grep nvidia [06:28] nvidia-legacy173-driver-173.14.18-i586-1_SBo [06:28] won't work either [06:28] nvidia-driver-177.82-i586-1_SBo [06:29] with 2.6.29, you probably need at least 180.xx [06:29] i have all the above...how do i check which one is loaded? [06:29] actually it might be patchable, most problems are compile errors [06:30] The-Croupier, lsmod |grep nvidia [06:30] well, legacy96 and legacy173 should work on -current. At least I haven't found anything stating something different [06:30] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:30] pprkut, will the kernel module compile ? [06:30] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [06:30] it doesnt say which one is loaded [06:30] i get these: [06:30] The-Croupier: you don't have them installed *all*, do you? [06:30] nvidia 4703380 16 [06:30] agpgart 29256 2 nvidia,intel_agp [06:30] oh, forget what I said about needing 180, I didn't notice nvidia was still updating its "legacy" driver [06:31] pprkut: i think i do..unless ls /var/log/packages/ | grep nvidia is wrong [06:31] The-Croupier, and you should use upgradepkg instead of installpkg [06:31] Camarade_Tux: i do ;) [06:32] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [06:32] and you have all of these packages ? :o [06:32] Camarade_Tux: yes :( [06:32] The-Croupier: ok...well...I never tried that...(having them installed all). I don't know how nvidia-switch would handle such a case :/ [06:32] and i dont know/remember which one was last :( [06:32] oh yeah, they are different series [06:33] I'd "removepkg nvidia" and cleanly install legacy173 [06:33] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:33] The-Croupier: which card do you have? Geforce 2,3,4,5,6,7,.... [06:34] pprkut: ge force go 7600 [06:34] ok, then go with the standard driver, no legacy [06:34] pprkut: :( and that would be? [06:35] remove all but nvidia-driver and nvidia-kernel [06:35] nheco (n=nheco@189-10-230-206.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:35] nvidia-driver-177.82-i586-1_SBo [06:35] pprkut: this one you mean [06:35] and it's kernel module, yes [06:36] pprkut: ill log off x ;) removepkg nvidia , installpkg nvidia "nolegacy" brb [06:36] gnutz (n=chatzill@c-75-71-58-7.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [06:36] pprkut: hope this works [06:36] :( [06:36] anything else i should be careful about on the process [06:37] anything i might need to change? xorg..anything [06:37] glx somewhere? [06:37] just remove/install the packages and run "nvidia-switch --nvidia" afterwards [06:37] The-Croupier, if something fails, in your xorg.conf, you can use "nv" as a driver instead of "nvidia" [06:37] well, actually if you install, nvidia-switch isn't needed [06:38] ok thanks guys [06:38] time to go ;) [06:38] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [06:40] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [06:41] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-170-215-49.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:41] hmm, xorg-server 1.6.0 was released three months after the nvidia-driver he uses :/ [06:41] might still not work... [06:43] gah, I just made mplayer play music twice as slow, hiedous [06:43] *hideous [06:44] Camarade_Tux: o/ [06:44] Camarade_Tux: re the kernel module, I haven't tried any of the legacy drivers on -current yet. So, don't know [06:45] yo frullet_ :) [06:46] pprkut, my card is recent enough to be supported by the regular releases [06:47] gah, I'm stupid, I saw the legacy drivers had had a release in 2009 but that was in March, they won't compile on current [06:48] I have patches for 2.6.30, but I don't think there should be problems with 2.6.29. Either way, I'll see when I get to updating them for -current [06:49] kama (n=kama@host40-230-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:49] I remember there is something that breaks with .29 or .28 [06:50] a patch that was merged in linus's tree on March 25th will break the drivers [06:51] the legacy drivers have been last updated two weeks earlier [06:52] reallove (i=reallove@unaffiliated/reallove) joined ##slackware. [06:52] hmmm, 2.6.29 was released on the 23rd [06:53] conclusion : I don't know :) [06:53] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [06:56] croscato (n=quassel@201-92-49-41.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:57] legacy173 compiled fine on 2.6.29.4. conclusion: works :) [06:57] ok, but non-legacy doesn't compile on 2.6.30 ;p [06:58] that's not in -current, so I don't care right now :P [06:59] you'll probably care quite soon though ;) [07:00] btw, the fix is to remove the lines which are like ' X->owner = THIS_MODULE;' since the owner field disappeared in .30 [07:00] Nick change: croscato -> gcroscato [07:01] Camarade_Tux: true, and fix noted. Thanks :) [07:02] yw :) [07:02] eviljames, I finally managed to make my first W|A request : http://www26.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=distance+from+christmas+island+to+czech+republic =) [07:04] gcroscato (n=quassel@201-92-49-41.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware ("http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere."). [07:05] croscato (n=quassel@201-92-49-41.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[08:01] customizability [08:02] reliability, I don't have the mental capacities to move around freely in a cyclic graph with 10000 nodes yet [08:02] (when something goes bad that is) [08:02] slackware's package manager does what the admin/user wants not what some dependency checker wants [08:02] I crashed yast once during an opensuse install, too much constraints for that poor perl program ;p [08:03] not once but thrice actually :) [08:04] Wiren (n=a@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:04] croscato_ (n=quassel@201-92-49-41.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:04] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [08:07] Camarade_Tux, anyways, you have the depencies. then you have to imagine the depency graph my yourself [08:07] no human can do this ;D [08:09] credo (n=36th@80.233.147.119) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:10] I do it for slackware [08:10] I get my dependencies right on slackware :) [08:10] jets0n (n=jets0n@213.147.97.233) joined ##slackware. [08:10] and when something goes bad, everything isn't broken [08:10] a human can do it, either with a pencil & paper or chalk & chalkboard or a text file on a PC, its not that difficult to keep a record of what software dependencies are [08:12] eichi, and there are really less conncections between nodes in slackware l) [08:12] s/l)/;) [08:12] / [08:12] i usually keep scrap paper and pencil on my desk to write down notes, i am thinking of getting either a small chalkboard or one of those boards that uses erasable ink [08:14] i thought about text files & send em to the printer but that would be a waste of paper, once something gets updated & dependencies change then what you have printed would be obsolete, it is easier to keep scrap paper & pencil [08:15] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:16] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:17] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [08:17] professor_ (n=professo@cpc1-bour5-2-0-cust293.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:17] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-122-10.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [08:18] I should buy an ebook or a nice mp3 player (like a really nice, Cowon S9), that should be ok for note taking [08:19] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.225.194.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [08:19] i'm building the linux kernel and i patched they drivers/input/mouse/synaptics.c file, and it backed up the old version of that to synaptics.c~. could that screw up the build? because my patch isn't working and i'm wondering if for some reason it is grabbing the old file instead [08:20] amazon10x, no, that wouldn't screw it [08:20] now, which patch ? [08:20] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:21] it's a fix for my touchpad [08:21] Wiren (n=a@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:21] and i've used it before and i know it works [08:21] amazon10x, yes, but could you show it to us ? [08:21] but before i've used it on 2.6.29 so i'm wondering if something changed in .30 that screwed it up [08:21] yeah, i'll pastebin it [08:22] croscato (n=quassel@201-92-49-41.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:22] http://pastebin.com/f7e8505c [08:23] Where a calculator on the ENIAC is equpped with 18,000 vaccuum tubes and weighs 30 tons, computers in the future may have only 1,000 vaccuum tubes and perhaps weight 1 1/2 tons. \n -- Popular Mechanics, March 1949 [08:23] ^^ [08:24] hmmm, last change to synaptics.c is from february [08:25] Action: Camarade_Tux loves git [08:25] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [08:26] what is the problem ? the patch does nothing [08:26] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [08:26] ? [08:26] yeah, i just pulled the 2.6.30 patch and nothing's been changed in synaptics [08:27] Camarade_Tux: it rescales the touchpad coordinates [08:27] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:28] amazon10x, remove the corresponding synaptics.o file and restart compile [08:28] and do you use lilo ? has it been run ? [08:28] alright. i'll nuke that synaptics.c~ file too [08:29] yes, i ran lilo [08:29] uname is reporting the new kernel [08:29] it's built as a module, right ? are you sure input is using it ? [08:29] also, which xorg ? [08:29] whatever's in -current [08:30] have you tried that patch on current with 2.6.29.x ? [08:30] no, it's not a module [08:30] and i haven't tried it with 2.6.29 [08:31] i'm going to check out my X configuration next to make sure this is actually recognized as a synaptics pad, because now that i think about it, i think i might [08:31] 've had some issues with it last time [08:31] but i've gotta roll now. thanks for your help [08:31] X now uses hal to find the input devices and configure them, might be a problem [08:31] yw [08:34] Reav__ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [08:34] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:35] morb (n=morb@93-138-90-163.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [08:35] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [08:36] rizitis (n=kvirc@athedsl-4558138.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:37] jets0n (n=jets0n@213.147.97.233) left irc: "Bye" [08:37] Hi. Can someone point me to some instructions on making slackware 12.2 use oss instead of alsa? [08:38] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [08:38] morb: what application are you wanting to use with oss, alsa has oss emulation that works pretty good, i use it sometimes [08:38] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [08:39] you probably have the module already loaded, lsmod should show snd_pcm_oss [08:40] NukeDukem: Well. I want try oss for everything instead of alsa, because sound quality really, and I can't stand it anymore [08:40] pprkut: thank you, everything working fine now ;) [08:40] The-Croupier: cool :) [08:40] sound quality really sucks* [08:40] The-Croupier, good to know, we where getting worried ;) [08:40] Camarade_Tux: lol [08:41] morb, guess you have to get it from http://www.opensound.com/linux.html [08:41] confrey (n=dario@94.162.155.112) joined ##slackware. [08:41] hi everybody [08:42] You're using a keyboard! How quaint! [08:42] I've just installed current on my eeepc [08:42] that can be set in the preferences in the audio/video apps you use, other than that i think you would have to do some serious work, rebuild the kernel, download & install OSS, several audio libraries & apps, umm, you are refering to 4front technologies OSS sound drivers? [08:42] confrey, nice :) [08:43] Camarade_Tux: were you not worried this time :P [08:43] Action: Camarade_Tux will now use speech recognition to write his irc messages, ph34r ! [08:43] NukeDukem: Yes. I really don't know what else could I do to get better sound quality. [08:43] I'd like to know something about eeepc-laptop module, but I can't find anyything in kernel's documentation [08:44] morb, I'll help you if you post pics of yourself nude :) [08:44] confrey, what do you want to know ? [08:44] Camarade_Tux, can you define ph34r? [08:45] fear the unreadable messages :) [08:45] Camarade_Tux, I want to know what or not eeepc-laptop does [08:45] at least you'll know when I LOL :) [08:45] Camarade_Tux: http://www.goat.cx/ [08:45] http://opensound.com/ good luck, i am not sure everything you have will work [08:45] morb, hmmmm........ [08:46] confrey, checking the doc, might take some time, I need to read some fortunes first >< [08:46] er, make that http://www.opensound.com/ (forgot the three Ws) [08:46] Camarade_Tux, I've compioled and installed ams_svn and farsight2 too, how can I create a slackbuild for them? [08:46] Reav__ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:47] Reav_ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:47] NukeDukem: both url's work. I just downloaded it. Hope it'll work. [08:47] you may have to rebuild the kernel unchecking alsa support and right below that enable OSS support [08:48] "This driver supports the Fn-Fx keys on Eee PC laptops. It also adds the ability to switch camera/wlan on/off." [08:48] DeeeeP (n=ngomes@bl8-111-98.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:48] exnovo (n=exaltis@athedsl-09472.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [08:48] i have not seen a Linux distro have support for OSS since the late 1990's [08:49] NukeDukem: Isn't alsa just a module? So it could be possible to unload alsa and load oss if the kernel is built w/ oss module support? [08:49] You will have to rebuild a whole lot of packages too if you get rid of alsa, morb. Everything that uses audio, links against the alsa libs [08:49] NukeDukem, really ? I remember using OSS a few years ago [08:49] (and that was working better) [08:49] alsa-driver has been included in the kernel tree, OSS support is still in there but un-enabled by default [08:50] Camarade_Tux, I thank you, but where are this informations in Doocumentation tree? [08:50] confrey, when you 'make menuconfig', on an item, press '?' to get them [08:50] From what i read, OSS was kicked out for political (license) reasons, not technical ones. [08:51] btw, you can also turn wlan off with 'ifconfig ra0 down' [08:51] NukeDukem, I remember using it about three years ago but I don't know if it wasn't actually alsa's emulation, but anyway, it worked when alsa failed [08:51] greetings from northern Canada:) [08:51] yo hitest [08:52] hmm, i never knew why, i did know it worked when it was in [08:52] hiya Camarade_Tux:) [08:52] morb: have you read http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2009/06/state-of-sound-in-linux-not-so-sorry.html ? [08:52] reasons were mostly political I think (license change?) [08:52] The forums have a slackbuild :) [08:53] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.90.65) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:54] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Sound_System : "Free, proprietary, free" [08:56] CmdLnKid (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [08:59] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:01] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:03] Oh, while I'm here. Why does Slackware ship w/ statically built Firefox and Java? Those two pieces of software crash the most to me. I'm not smart enough to say wheather it's because they're just repackaged upstream binaries, but it's what I noticed. I'm sure there is more repackaged software, but those two really stand out in my day to day usage. [09:04] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:05] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: "I believe in christianity as I believe that the sun has risen. Not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything [09:05] i think both firefox and java are repackaged binaries [09:05] as for firefox crashing, I don't think it's because of how it's packaged/compiled... [09:06] i will say firefox does not handle plugins well, especially flash, use seamonkey for plugins like flash & java [09:06] SteppenwolfII (n=greymaus@86-46-203-181-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [09:06] hi [09:06] it has nothing to do with slackware, it is just a weakness of firefox [09:07] I have a fiile suffix chm, any idea of how to read it? [09:07] kchm [09:08] `file` says 'MS Windows HtmlHelp Data' [09:08] or http://xchm.sourceforge.net/ [09:08] Camarade_Tux: kchmviewer? You have it on slackbuilds [09:08] Ta! [09:08] morb, yeah, just saw it wasn't kchm but kchmviewer ;) [09:09] okular ;) [09:09] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:09] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [09:10] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [09:11] i seen chm reader apps listed at freshmeat.net (there are a few around) [09:16] rizitis (n=kvirc@athedsl-4558138.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:17] alienBOB: I missed your reply up there, about recompiling whole lot of packages and libraries. OSS should have alsa compatibility layer, just like alsa has oss compat layer, so apps / libraries shouldn't notice the change, and if I'm lucky I could get better sound quality. Right? [09:17] evo_ (n=evo@p5DDE77EE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [09:17] slackroll v34 out [09:17] morb: if OSS has alsa compatibility libs, then everything _should_ work without recompilation [09:18] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE77EE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:18] thats a big & risky "if" [09:18] morb: if I understood the whole oss/alsa topic correctly, you will still need alsa-lib and alsa-oss when using oss [09:19] and what about ABI breakage ? [09:19] i say try it, somebody has to be the guina pig :D [09:20] might be easier to dig up some old sound card (if this is a desktop your talking about - not a laptop) [09:20] It's a laptop. And I'm afraid of hosing os instalation right now :( [09:21] you wouldn't hose it, you would only hose the sound part :D [09:21] i have one PC that has a intel_hda via sound chip, i hate that thing, and feel fortunate i kept an old creative labs with the big 1371 chip on it [09:23] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:24] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:25] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:26] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:27] insert__ (i=insert_@189.71.127.238) joined ##slackware. [09:30] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:34] ok now I 've compiled sensors-plugin or xfce4, but I always read '0' as mAh battery, where this information is? [09:36] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:38] i just had a change of heart about my comparison of links and lynx, lynx has prettier colored fonts but links has better functionality at websites where i log in at, so now it is lynx for just reading news but links for websites i log in at [09:38] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060214]" [09:38] /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/* [09:40] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) joined ##slackware. [09:42] insert_ (n=xinsrt@189.71.145.195) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:42] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:48] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-32-177.lns3.bne1.internode.on.net) left ##slackware. [09:49] Camarade_Tux, thanks, but why xfce4-sensors-plugin doesn't detect that informatioons? (in your opinion, of course..) [09:50] Camarade_Tux, can you suggest me a light text editor with syntax highlighting ? (not vim or emacs...) [09:50] gvim -y ? :D [09:50] or elvis XD [09:51] confrey, no idea about the battery, are the infos in /sys ok ? [09:52] mmlj4 (n=jkelly@ip70-171-94-246.no.no.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:53] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:53] yes, in /sys I can read bat infos, in other distros I have that infos in xfce plugins... but no matter, I', enjoying to solve it, but I'd like to use a code editor like gedit [09:54] battery info used to be in /proc, so plugins might have wrong paths. [09:54] more likely a simple configuration problem [09:55] yeah, /proc is deprecated now, maybe that your kernel doesn't show that [09:55] cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state [09:56] No such file or directory [09:56] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [09:56] i guess my workstation doesn't have one [09:56] :P [09:56] I had that disabled once but there were too many things still relying on it (that was one year ago) [09:57] stybla, what ? it doesn't have one ? :o [09:57] Camarade_Tux: no :( [09:57] hollar (n=hollar@g225100033.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [09:57] ='( [09:57] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [09:58] crashx1 (n=relaxed@h174.174.90.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [09:58] Action: Camarade_Tux thinks it would be a good idea to bundle a small battery in computers, would prevent many problems [09:58] confrey: gedir [09:58] (make the UPS standard) [09:58] gedit, rather. [09:58] does mousepad do syntax highlighting ? [09:58] Wiren (n=a@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:58] nope. [09:58] Afternoon folks. [09:58] Camarade_Tux: :) [09:59] i use gvim myself for light stuff [09:59] but i'm an SXEmacs user [09:59] BP{k}: not good enough, but it is afternoon. [09:59] sxemacs ? [09:59] xemacs, may be [09:59] Camarade_Tux: http://www.sxemacs.org/ [09:59] Camarade_Tux: it's probably emacs you can play doom with. [09:59] it's a fork of XEmacs that's basically less shite [10:01] well, in /proc I can read the same infos about battery [10:01] SXEmacs is my Window Manager. ^^ [10:01] yup! :D [10:01] so something is wrong in plugin code [10:01] zoniya (n=atom@116.68.99.252) joined ##slackware. [10:02] SXEmacs is my image viewer. / SXEmacs is my mp3 player. / ... [10:02] PeanutHorst, is it hard to install gedit in current? [10:02] confrey, rworkman might know [10:02] hi [10:02] confrey: slapt-get install gedit [10:02] shoudl be [10:02] what do you guys use again? [10:02] slackpkg [10:02] zoniya (n=atom@116.68.99.252) left ##slackware. [10:03] PeanutHorst, I use installpkg [10:03] confrey: well, did you say xfce plugins? [10:03] canI use slapt-get in current? [10:03] yes [10:03] confrey: http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-12.2/utilities/gedit/2.22.3/gedit-2.22.3-i486-1as.tgz [10:03] confrey: yep, those stopped to work for me too, so i've stopped to use xfce :) [10:03] that'll work in current [10:04] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-183-12.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: [10:04] Action: BP{k} can't express the ammount of fail here :) [10:04] evo_ (n=evo@p5DDE70FC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:04] PeanutHorst, is a good idea to use packages from previous version in current? [10:04] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [10:04] eichi (n=eichi@p5B2045E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:05] BP{k}: what failure? [10:05] stybla, at the moment, on my eeepc this is the best desktop [10:05] stybla: the mention of slapt-get followied by: "( PeanutHorst) what do you guys use again?" [10:06] PeanutHorst, excuse me if I reply : can I use slapt-get in current? [10:06] confrey: the question should be: why would you want to use slapt-get? [10:07] BP{k}: :D [10:08] pprkut, mmhhhh, I don't want to cause religion's wars [10:08] confrey: then repent and turn away from teh unlly path! [10:08] confrey: yes, you can use slapt-get in current i think [10:09] BP{k}: i know of slapt-get. i wasn't sure if slackware had adopted netpkg yet. [10:09] pprkut, for me because I know apt-get enough.... [10:09] i have a slackware 4.0 system here. that is why i'm qualified to be here. :p [10:09] PeanutHorst, wow, 4.0..... [10:09] that's really old [10:10] PeanutHorst: wow. .. [10:10] confrey: i have the original 4-disc sets signed by pat volkerding of 3.2 and 3.6 here [10:10] morb (n=morb@93-138-90-163.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: "leaving" [10:10] confrey: no worries. you are free to use whatever you want ;) [10:11] confrey: [2009-06-21[00:04:53]] PeanutHorst, is a good idea to use packages from previous version in current? it's never broken my stuff [10:11] pprkut, :) no problems.... I can read a joke, sometimes it's difficult for me, I'm Italian [10:11] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [10:11] back when i ran 11-CURRENT [10:11] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:11] do you know how many dependencies do I need installing that gedit froom 12.2.? [10:12] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [10:12] hi are the ppl who helped me last night still here? [10:12] confrey: you are free to use what you want, but: we don't have to support slapt-get. [10:13] crashx- (n=relaxed@h242.24.141.67.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:13] missyjane: you get your broken konsole thing fixed? [10:13] no [10:13] but [10:13] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE77EE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:13] it turns out im not the only one [10:13] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/kwrite-crashes-with-nvidia-drivers-180.29-704422/ [10:14] if you read the thread, youll see some folks getting exact same error (i get the extremely similar backtrace) [10:14] a kde/nvidia conflict? [10:14] i guess so [10:14] Action: StevenR pokes BP{k} in the back with a Shiny! New! rack rail [10:14] ah, i did not remember last night but look at yakuake's website there is a note about that on the front page' [10:14] Action: BP{k} steals StevenRs servers [10:14] who is yakuake? [10:14] BP{k}: Mine. My shiny new dell R610s [10:15] s/who/what/ [10:15] a kde x-terminal [10:15] StevenR: no longer ;) [10:15] I haz it noaw! [10:15] Action: StevenR raps BP{k} on the head with the cable arm [10:15] ah [10:15] kama (n=kama@host40-230-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:15] "IMPORTANT : I know of a bug that happens when you close yakuake (it sometimes makes it crash) so dont tell me about it, itll be fixed in the next release&" [10:15] exact same error [10:15] it doesnt seem like my problem, even if i did something wrong cause other ppl are getting this error even with new installs [10:16] i can also always wait... [10:16] missyjane: tried a newer nvidia driver? [10:16] if you want debugging infos to make a backtrace, you'll have to recompile kde or at least parts of it and not strip when making a package (I think -g is the default there) [10:16] hollar (n=hollar@g225100033.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:17] this is my newest one [10:17] i mean backtrace as in when i click on the backtrace tab when i get the error handler... [10:18] kama (n=kama@host40-230-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware ("tu sei gay"). [10:18] missyjane: have you tried a newer version than 180.29? [10:19] yes pprkut [10:19] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A7571D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:19] NVIDIA-Linux-x86-185.18.14-pkg1.run [10:19] missyjane: if the issue is still there, it's unlikely to get fixed [10:19] seejay_ (n=seejay@202.69.200.5) joined ##slackware. [10:19] i understand [10:20] greetings [10:20] its just a minor error that this crash occur, the other thing im worried about which seems related is the fact new users cant really logon kde, but every others they can like fluxbox and xfce4 [10:20] missyjane: kde3 doesn't receive a lot of updates anymore. It works fine in kde4 [10:20] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:20] missyjane: fresh install konsole still crashing [10:20] in fact i think ill upgrade to kde4, i dont see why not [10:21] TClayton, you mean kbase? yes [10:21] oooh it's a missyjane [10:21] leave me alone PeanutHorst [10:22] missyjane: so you did not reinstall slackware [10:22] fine, don't mind me [10:22] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [10:22] TClayton, nope :p i just woke up [10:23] time for the monthly shower :) [10:23] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [10:23] lol [10:23] who hasnt showered in months?! [10:23] yo antler :) [10:23] missyjane, not me ! only in one month ;p [10:23] hi Camarade_Tux :) [10:23] hi antler :) [10:24] pprkut: oh hey! long time :) [10:24] y0 Camarade_Tux [10:24] antler: hehe, true. How goes? [10:25] yo slackytude :) [10:25] pprkut: excellent. and for Ihnen? :P [10:25] im gonna risk this [10:25] brb [10:25] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [10:25] wow, she didn't hurl abuse at me this time. awesome. [10:25] eviljames: ping [10:26] was there ever an effort to build slackware on top of HURD ? [10:27] slackers aren't mad -_- [10:27] antler: lol. good, but quite busy :/ [10:28] maybe RMS installed slackware and used it to build hurd, but in all truthfullness hurd is mostly dead and obsolete, nobody wants it except RMS [10:28] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.74.28) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:28] pprkut: heh busy is nice (i think) [10:28] rms is just a bloody control freak [10:29] dngr (n=dngr@119.237.139.220) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:30] Camarade_Tux: see what i mean? showers..... french..... always comes up! :P [10:30] hes an idealist, he wants the whole world to follow his ideals, i prefer to think more pragmatically [10:31] the GNU/GPL is a great license and philosophy towards software development but a terrible religion [10:31] antler: just one more week and I'll have a lot of time again, so can sort of agree there :D [10:32] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [10:32] hm nope [10:32] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:34] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:34] "hm nope" as in "i'm not cybering with anyone again" or something else :D [10:34] lol [10:34] i mean my solutions arent working [10:35] then they were never solutions to begin with, were they? :P [10:35] speaking of solutions, does anyone know if there is a guide on upgrading and installing kde 4? i cant seem to find any guide on google? [10:36] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:36] missyjane: if you update to -current, you get kde4 [10:36] s/update/upgrade/ [10:37] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-140-53-18.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [10:38] Reav_ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [10:38] pprkut: busy with slackware-related or other stuff? [10:38] muzz2k (n=anthony@host81-151-153-168.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [10:39] antler, wait, what ? [10:39] antler: having my bachelor-exam on Thursday [10:40] antler, I remember something with showers and french, but not exactly [10:42] I'm going through my backlogs and it's incredible how often people mention showering on this channel :P [10:42] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:42] antler, found it ! =P [10:43] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [10:44] cause we feel dirty around you [10:45] lol [10:45] is it true that french women dont shave their armpits or legs? [10:46] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [10:46] true [10:46] i could tolerate a women with hairy armpits but hairly legs on a women would be awful! [10:47] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.34.90) joined ##slackware. [10:47] s/true/false/ [10:47] and missyjane ='( [10:47] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:48] lol [10:48] :p [10:49] pprkut: best of luck, my soon-to-be-officially-educated friend :) [10:49] seejay_ (n=seejay@202.69.200.5) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:49] Camarade_Tux: one month.... it's nice to see that your behaviour is consistent with your reputation [10:49] :D [10:49] antler: haha, thanks :) [10:49] antler, die =) [10:50] how fast is oc-48? [10:51] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:51] the expression "his reputation precedes him" would be wrongly applied to Camarade_Tux. it should be "his smell precedes him"? :P [10:51] he does smell [10:52] Wiren (n=a@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [10:52] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.39.210) joined ##slackware. [10:52] antler, FALSE ! not when the wind goes the other way -_- [10:52] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:52] Camarade_Tux: hahaha [10:52] is there any specific software for stress testing the hard drive and that can report any timeouts problems? [10:53] Has anyone here done master mode on an ath5k WNIC? Does it work with -current kernels? [10:53] pprkut, good luck [10:54] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host217-43-26-150.range217-43.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [10:55] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) left ##slackware ("where am I going now?"). [10:56] NukeDukem: aside from her hairy back that one could braid, the girl i dated years ago was otherwise hot. [10:56] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.148.126) joined ##slackware. [10:56] well, lan time, laterz =) [10:56] Camarade_Tux: have a fun. [10:57] later Camarade_Tux [10:57] thanks :) [10:57] Camarade_Tux, see ya [10:57] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [10:58] ananke, hot besides the hairy back [10:58] damn [10:58] antler, , hot besides the hairy back [10:58] if a woman can love you despite YOUR hairy back, what's to say you can't love them despite theirs? 8-) [10:59] did you date a gorilla by chance? [10:59] lol ananke is going to come back to his computer and go "why is someone flirting with me!?" [10:59] lol [10:59] slackytude: yeah, she looked like Old Silverback, only the hair was thick and coarse. [10:59] ...and black [10:59] O_o [10:59] lol! i gotta get in to the BIOS and reset my clock, the dang thing is off by exactly 5 hours! [10:59] slackytude: lol [10:59] Action: TwinReverb has never dated a gorilla [10:59] i'm not into the inter-species thing [11:00] NukeDukem: just use # hwclock; will ya? [11:00] TwinReverb, never become an engineer on a star ship then [11:00] ok [11:00] VampirePenguin (n=java@173-10-221-30-BusName-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [11:00] dngr (n=dngr@119.237.151.70) joined ##slackware. [11:00] slackytude, i think the holodeck would probably cause me issues 8-) [11:00] Action: slackytude nods [11:01] NukeDukem, timeconfig, maybe you got the wrong setting for UTC. [11:01] humanity will become extinct if we ever develop a holodeck [11:01] schpenke (n=schpenke@cpe-66-25-50-212.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [11:02] Thom1 (n=Thom1@126.102.87-79.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:02] You should only use localtime in BIOS clock for systems which also boot brain-dead OS's. Unix/Linux systems should use UTC. [11:02] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.25.143) joined ##slackware. [11:02] And indeed, there is no need to get into the BIOS, we have hwclock(8). [11:02] i set my bios to 24 hour local time & the timezone in /etc is localtime CST [11:02] slackytude: thanks :) [11:02] pprkut, ^-^ [11:02] US/Central [11:03] its probably the battery [11:03] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [11:03] 5 hours is the CDT offset from UTC [11:03] UTC is just GMT, right? [11:04] yes, with perhaps a few minor caveats, same thing [11:04] Action: slackytude nods [11:04] so i should switch to UTC? [11:04] okies :D [11:05] I would, unless booting Windows on that box. [11:05] UTC/TUC/GMT/zulu .. pretty much the same thing. [11:05] alright might reinstall all this crap later [11:05] got a shortwave reciever? tune to WWV on 2.5 5 10 15 or 20 MHz [11:05] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [11:06] Thom1 (n=Thom1@126.102.87-79.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [11:06] i always thought that 'zulu' meant 'time during war' [11:06] I thought it meant time in location area [11:06] ah, destination [11:07] 15:07 [11:07] but google says zulu = utc [11:07] zulu is just UTC... [11:07] yeah [11:07] "Zulu" is the ICAO phonetic for "Z", and "Z" is the suffix for UTC time, 15:07Z right now. [11:07] VampirePenguin (n=java@173-10-221-30-BusName-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:07] it sounds cool anyway [11:07] antler: zulu is also used in civil aviation, for example [11:08] I'm getting timeouts with my sata hdd all the time [11:08] I just cant stand it anymore [11:08] antler: no. http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/military/z.html [11:08] VampirePenguin (n=java@173-10-221-30-BusName-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [11:08] yeah, i just searched on google [11:08] i copied /usr/share/zoneinfo/UTC as /etc/localtime and it fixed it! [11:09] yeah, that's basically what timeconfig does too [11:09] I use symlinks, so its easier to tell..but thats just me [11:09] also sets a /etc/localtime-copied-from symlink [11:10] There's a real good reason for NOT using a symlink for /etc/localtime :) [11:10] VampirePenguin (n=java@173-10-221-30-BusName-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:10] Such as? [11:10] eitherone will work, copy or symlink [11:11] Such as if /usr is not mounted, the symlink is broken [11:11] if /usr isn't mounted..isnt the system going to be broken anyway? :P [11:11] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:11] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.91.152) joined ##slackware. [11:12] "i must break you" --Ivan Drago [11:12] In theory (albeit not quite, in Slackware) a system without /usr should have basic admin tools. [11:12] there is still /bin and /sbin [11:12] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) joined ##slackware. [11:12] I should harass volkerdi about that sometime [11:12] well since i went through the trouble of uncoiling the coax to my longwire and connecting it to my shortwave i might as well keep it on for the day, maybe some pirates will broadcast today [11:12] or better yet, just work on fixes [11:13] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.26.71) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:15] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.208.168) joined ##slackware. [11:16] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:20] lol! i run date while listening to WWV and they sync ( i did use ntp to fine tune the time_) [11:20] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.34.90) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:21] Anyone know if it's easy to install a debug build of xorg-server in a non-standard place (eg. --prefix=/opt/debug/xserver) and make that use the system config file and other files? [11:22] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.225.194.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:22] morb (n=morb@93-138-90-163.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [11:23] morb (n=morb@93-138-90-163.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Client Quit [11:23] morb (n=morb@93-138-90-163.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [11:25] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:26] evo_ (n=evo@p5DDE70FC.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Don't mind your make-up, make your mind up!" [11:27] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.34.90) joined ##slackware. [11:27] I need an Orwellian name (1984 preferred) for my new netbook. [11:27] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:28] VampirePenguin (n=java@adsl-098-075-170-254.sip.bna.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [11:28] Telescreen, well, appropriate in some ways, but I have a still-semi-functional old laptop with that name already. [11:29] big brother? [11:29] well, 'george' is orwellian [11:29] call it 'george' [11:29] rob0: newspeak [11:30] laptop 101 [11:30] rob0: or doublethink, if you're dual booting :) [11:30] laptop 101 hahaha [11:30] miniluv (Ministry of Love) [11:30] thought police? [11:31] rhys (n=rhys@cpe-65-25-100-45.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:31] perfect unity [11:31] JuniorAntiSexLeague!!!! [11:31] newspeak is good [11:31] miniluv was my server, which was stolen in a burglary :( [11:32] two minutes hate? [11:32] oh, already got one [11:32] ha, good one! [11:33] good for a win machine ^-^ [11:33] 'what's 2+2?' and 'how many lights do you see, picard?' seem related. call it 'cardacia' <--- cool name, imo [11:33] that was a great Star Trek episode [11:33] it was :) [11:34] I used to use .225 as the last quad for miniluv's IP address [11:34] (LAN address of course) [11:34] I used .50 [11:34] heh, nice [11:34] Jasl ... hmmm [11:34] an old laptop is what i am using here, X runs sort of top-heavy on it so i did a slack install without xorg or xapps and unticked the libs that are only for X releated apps and it is only using about 675 megs of disk space :D [11:34] Because 50 cal is sex [11:34] redsash [11:35] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-165-97.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [11:35] too bad the thing is black (not my choice, it was what Newegg had on sale) [11:35] me_ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [11:35] if you had miniluv already, you could use the others as well [11:35] minilaw [11:35] minitrue [11:35] hmmm [11:35] miniplenty [11:35] minipax [11:35] minime [11:36] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:36] hahaha minime [11:38] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:39] I have an old thinkpad, now runs Windows (but rarely used at all), which when it was Slackware, was named "tp" for thinkpol / thinkpad. [11:39] and it's probably going to get a new lease on life with Slackware 13 [11:39] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:40] Linux slack64 2.6.29.5 #2 SMP Thu Jun 18 13:15:33 CDT 2009 x86_64 Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 285 SE AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux [11:40] sxy [11:40] if life is leased, how much does that cost? 8-( [11:40] Linux vaio 2.6.30 #1 SMP Thu Jun 11 06:02:10 KST 2009 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5500 @ 1.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [11:40] this is at the datacenter [11:40] installed through pxe [11:41] Life for a thinkpad? [11:41] Linux chestnut 2.6.29.5 #2 SMP Thu Jun 18 13:15:33 CDT 2009 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9500 Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux [11:42] that's my home workstation [11:42] is the phenom the mobile chip? [11:42] no [11:42] dont think so [11:42] no, it's a quad-core desktop, sucks power like there's no tomorrow! [11:43] me_ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "me_em" [11:44] VGin ... for "victory gin", which is what they served at the Chestnut Tree. [11:44] VampirePenguin (n=java@adsl-098-075-170-254.sip.bna.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:44] but I'm leaning towards minipax [11:44] credo (n=36th@80.233.147.119) joined ##slackware. [11:44] VampirePenguin (n=java@173-10-221-30-BusName-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [11:45] oh it wasn't 'what's 2+2' in 1984, but 'how many fingers' ... i think... can't really remember [11:45] War is Peace, Slavery is Freedom, Ketchup is a Vegetable [11:46] that's deep, slackytude . i'm still thinking about it :D [11:46] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [11:46] antler, both. Gutenberg Australia has the book for download. [11:46] I don't think it's deep [11:46] antler, Freedom is the ability to say 2+2 = 4. All else follows from that. And there was the scene were he said that 2+2 = 5 if the party says soo [11:47] there was the the finger counting as well [11:47] rob0 slackytude : oh [11:47] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [11:47] thumbs: well, how deep is your love? [11:47] ha, my copy of it was on miniluv ... sigh ... [11:47] antler: pretty deep [11:47] heh [11:48] haha [11:48] got the book lying around here [11:48] animal farm as well [11:49] read animal farm in school [11:49] antler: yes, I do realize you are referencing a song [11:50] and vista rocks [11:50] all slackers are equal, just some are more equal than others. ;) [11:51] :) [11:51] good is bad? [11:51] so slackware linux is bad? 8-( [11:51] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:52] thumbs: yeah, i think everybody knows that song :) [11:52] slackytude, for example, says in his blog that he sings that song every morning in the shower [11:53] antler, winston? [11:53] += ... too bad such characters won't work as a hostname [11:53] slackytude: winston sings that song in the shower? [11:53] antler, really? [11:53] cant remeber that [11:54] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [11:54] Comrade Napoleon, Animal Hero First Class, Protector of the Innocent [11:54] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.91.152) left irc: "Leaving" [11:54] antler, who says in his blog that he sings that song? [11:54] slackytude says in slackytude 's blog that slackytude sings that song [11:54] I'd never! [11:55] sure, dude. you got the high-pitched voice down pat [11:55] O_O [11:55] are you listening to me showering? [11:55] perv! [11:55] znuzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:55] not unless you've posted a vid on your blog [11:56] znuzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [11:56] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.10.155) joined ##slackware. [11:56] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:57] # [11:57] # "No question now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which." [11:58] is that orwell? [11:58] simbiozz (n=simbiozz@190.96.33.204) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:58] that sounds like it could be [11:58] Yes, ANimal Farm. [11:58] the last line in the book... [11:58] FOUR LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BAD [11:59] BAAAH [11:59] I blame snowball... [11:59] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:59] hm, then it seems that orwell too stood on the shoulders of giants, for something similar was said two thousand years ealier by a chinese philosopher, who mentioned dreams and butterflies instead of men and pigs [12:00] buddha, you mean? [12:00] FOUR LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BAAAAAAAAAAAD [12:00] no, i'm thinking it was lao tzu, but can't be sure [12:00] Lao Tzu is the Taoist amirite? [12:01] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:01] Im pretty sure its buddhist [12:01] 4legs, that would ba a good hostname! "2legs", conversely, would be a bad one. ;) [12:01] I think it's a pretty common idea that the self appointed leaders to become corrupted and end up doing w/e they want at anyone expense. [12:01] "i once dreamed i was a butterfly. when i woke up, i didn't know whether or not i was a butterfly dreaming that i was a man" [12:02] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [12:02] Im mistaken tho [12:02] That's a little different antler =p he's talking about dream life/vs waking life. I think Orwel is talking about Josef Stalin. [12:02] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhuangzi [12:02] "then i stopped smoking what i had been smoking" [12:02] Once Zhuangzi dreamt he was a butterfly, a butterfly flitting and fluttering around, happy with himself and doing as he pleased. He didn't know he was Zhuangzi. Suddenly he woke up and there he was, solid and unmistakable Zhuangzi. But he didn't know if he was Zhuangzi who had dreamt he was a butterfly, or a butterfly dreaming he was Zhuangzi. [12:03] erizoe: yes, he was (dream and life), but i didn't know he was talking about stalin [12:03] slackytude: ah [12:03] "man who stand on toilet seat high on pot" twinreverb ? That's confucius [12:03] no toilets did not exist in his day [12:03] slackytude: nice [12:03] antler, but erizoe is right, the quote from animal farm talks about something else entirely [12:03] philosopher quote fail [12:03] Joke fail :) [12:04] sense of humor fail [12:04] rob0, FOUR LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BETTER [12:04] haha [12:04] twinreverb: I thought it was funny.... "man who fart in church sit in own pew" [12:04] slackytude erizoe : yes, i should actually read 'animal farm' before i comment on it :) [12:04] lol [12:04] and we were always at war with eurasia [12:05] antler, its a good book [12:05] It's a very short book, many people read it in 1 sitting. [12:05] animal farm? [12:05] Yes. [12:05] or during months in school [12:05] slackytude: yeah, i've heard. but everytime i hear 'animal farm' i think 'chevy chase' for some reason [12:05] lol [12:05] you're a uber-reader if you can read 1984 in one sitting [12:06] Action: TwinReverb liked both books [12:06] http://gutenberg.net.au/ [12:06] http://www.informationweek.com/news/personal_tech/iphone/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=218100388&cid=RSSfeed_TechWeb [12:06] There's a Pink Floyd album that tries to parallel the book Animal Farm, it's called Animals. [12:06] have ms phones ever done shit like that [12:06] Animal Farm linked on the main page [12:07] Twinreverb: I read a few of the Harry Potter books in 1 sitting.. [12:07] i wouldn't be able to read a whole book on the computer screen [12:07] but 1984 bored me almost to death... I saved my life by putting it down. [12:07] antler, its doable but not as fun as the real thing. better with a PDA of some sort [12:07] erizoe, really? I liked it [12:08] 1984 was scary [12:08] thats the point [12:08] haha [12:08] its supposed to be scary [12:08] i might try it again one day, but it bored me half to death, right now i'm on my second time through the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Also, I would love a PDA, they're like 300 dollars right now though so i'll stick to my monitor. [12:08] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Success [12:09] anybody read Brave New World? [12:09] are copyright laws more relaxed in australia? why the gutenberg link to the australia site [12:10] Yes. Orwell was stolen from the public domain in the USA. [12:10] rob0, huh? [12:10] Action: alienBlurb read 1984 in 1977 ... when it was still science fiction [12:10] anybody using xce4? [12:10] Orwell used to be public domain, but new "IP" laws extended the copyright. [12:10] xfce4? [12:10] yep [12:11] bastards! [12:11] rob0, eh, thats bad [12:11] somewhat ironic too [12:11] I actually got my copy of 1984 from the main Gutenberg site. [12:11] back in the 90's [12:12] alienBOB, I had you beat by about 3 years, I think. :) [12:12] slackytude: Brave New World is another great one. [12:13] Action: slackytude nods [12:13] its is. and seems to resemble the world more than 1984 [12:14] but why worry? [12:14] Action: slackytude takes some soma [12:14] All the advantages of Christianity and alcohol; none of their defects. [12:14] well, that's another i should read. 'animal farm' and 'brave new world' [12:15] i'll go with whichever is thinner [12:15] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [12:15] ok... guys i did a completely new install of slackware 12.2 [12:15] animal farm isn't too long [12:15] i am having the exact same problem that i had earlier [12:16] Miss, bummer! I missed it, btw. [12:16] hm... [12:16] antler, Ive found brave new world pretty difficult to read. it gets better in later chapters, tho [12:16] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-18-58.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:16] but english aint my primary language [12:17] so anyone have any idea what to do now? [12:17] i could submit a bug report or something [12:17] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [12:17] Hello again. Just an update to anyone who is interested how the change from alsa to oss went. Well, the slackbuild on their forum didn't work, so I just installed it using their braindead simple instructions, avoiding the package manager (which I don't like, I like all apps installed listed in /var/log/packages. Anyways, it works without much problems. With alsa i always had problems with cmus and flash fighting over access to sound device. [12:18] slackytude: difficult as in technical-manual-dry-reading difficult? [12:18] How/why did changing to OSS help with that? [12:18] troys (n=troys@68.165.100.2) joined ##slackware. [12:19] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-154.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [12:19] rob0: help with what exactly? [12:19] antler, no difficult as in wthe the hell is he talking about [12:19] hahaha [12:19] morb, which oss? [12:20] open sound system, alternative to alsa. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Sound_System [12:20] jessen (n=essen@ppp-71-140-203-45.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:20] morb, eh, nvm [12:20] "With alsa i always had problems with cmus and flash fighting over access to sound device." [12:20] TwinReverb: i'm an über-reader then [12:20] freack (n=frk@189.58.216.219.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:21] te (n=te@70.253.33.34) joined ##slackware. [12:21] jessen (n=essen@ppp-71-140-203-45.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:23] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: "Leaving" [12:23] rob0: After watching a youtube video often (not always) i couldn't play music using cmus (or any other audio player). message I would get is that it cannot access audio device. Shutting down firefox enabled cmus to play music again. I repeat, not always, but in half dozen time a day for sure [12:23] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-134-16.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:23] And i had the same problem with Slackware 12.1 [12:24] croscato_ (n=quassel@201-92-49-41.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:24] Yes, but I bet you'll have the same high-level problem with different low-level sound drivers. [12:25] well. Doesn't alsa schuedule app access to sound device? [12:25] I mean, that's one of its jobs, right? [12:26] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [12:26] oh wow guys [12:26] it IS the fucking nvidia, all this time [12:26] i just uninstalled nvidia driver and everything is back to normal! NORMAL! [12:26] missyjane: what was the problem you had? [12:27] @)(#@)(#@)#*@#@*#) [12:27] basically im getting crash when i exit applications [12:27] and new users cant login [12:27] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:27] and that was related to nvidia? [12:28] Crash, or just loss of video output? [12:28] PeanutHorst, i just read The Spike [12:28] niiiiiiiise [12:29] hey ppl [12:29] :D [12:29] niiiiiice, that was meant to read [12:29] gimme some slack, it's 2:30am [12:29] s/niiiiiiiise/niiiiiiiice [12:29] morb, yes, alsa does that [12:29] just crash, i still have video output [12:29] antler yep, surprisingly [12:29] basically all the errors, crashes, every problems i got [12:29] all i had to do was nvidia-uninstall and poof, t hese problems are no mo [12:30] schedule app access to sound device? [12:30] what, with dmix? [12:30] yeah, I thought so [12:30] TwinReverb, i know you attempted to help me with this yesterday, isnt it strange that a video driver can cause so much problems that seemed completely unrelated? [12:30] altho OSS4 should be able to do that as well [12:30] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:30] OSS ver 4 [12:31] slackytude: well, oss does that, and does it right. [12:31] Action: slackytude shrugs [12:31] going to install 12.1 now and see if the older drivers fix it [12:31] VampirePenguin (n=java@173-10-221-30-BusName-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:31] thank you to everyone who tried to help, much appreciated [12:31] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: "Leaving" [12:32] 8-S [12:32] um, nvidia drivers are not included in slackware ... sigh [12:32] OldSlacker (n=OldSlack@173-24-168-161.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [12:32] OSS version 4 ? [12:32] yes [12:32] ? [12:32] I mean, man's got to be pissed off when he has to exit firefox just to start playing a song and start firefox again. Several times a day. [12:32] 12.1 is certainly the wrong "fix" [12:32] Reav_ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:32] yes, oss4 [12:32] alsa does it right [12:32] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:32] alsa is a mess [12:32] yeah 12.1 is not a fix [12:32] tooly (n=theo@e178169164.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [12:32] slackytude, i don't see a mess here, i see it work, which is enough for me [12:33] eichi (n=eichi@p5B2045E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [12:33] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:33] TwinReverb, it is a mess if you want to develop something with sound. its also linux only. but yeah, for end users its often good enough [12:33] TwinReverb: lucky you. I wasn't that lucky. [12:34] Ive read a lot about linux sound stuff in recent days [12:34] by now Im suprised there is any sound in linux at all [12:34] slackytude, i don't want to develop something with sound, i just want sound, and it works [12:34] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-253.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:34] d6y (i=ca5b090b@gateway/web/freenode/x-b01a1b7afc9bc4d8) joined ##slackware. [12:34] TwinReverb, yeah, but you'd want a good sound architecture so developers can write/port to linux [12:35] i want sound and i got it [12:35] slackytude: You use oss4? Do you have a slackware package for alsa? [12:35] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-129.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:35] the slackware package for alsa? doesn't slackware come with alsa? [12:35] morb, no, just read about OSS4. and alsa is in slack [12:36] komesti (n=komesti@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:36] I know alsa is standard, i asked about oss package [12:36] i don't like oss's website. "tired of alsa?" no, actually i'm not [12:36] alsa does pretty much suck [12:36] morb, you asked about alsa. reread your sentence [12:37] oh... Sorry my bad [12:37] no swear [12:37] sweat :P [12:38] lol [12:38] Anyways, this might be of interest to someone: http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2009/06/state-of-sound-in-linux-not-so-sorry.html [12:38] morb, yeah, read that [12:39] Gah, my transmission died in my car.. Not a good way to start the weekend. [12:40] heh [12:40] sorry to hear [12:40] oh that sucks, agentc0re [12:41] "About two years ago, I wrote an article titled the "The Sorry State of Sound in Linux", hoping to get some sound issues in Linux fixed." [12:41] omg you seriously think you're going to fix some issues by blogging? why not try coding? [12:42] TwinReverb, read more, he is a coder [12:42] "PulseAudio has become widespread." yeah and it widesucks as well, as any mandriva user can tell you [12:42] d6y (i=ca5b090b@gateway/web/freenode/x-b01a1b7afc9bc4d8) left irc: "qwebirc exception: Buffer overflow." [12:42] sexual misstep [12:42] pulseaudio got better [12:42] "New Linux Distributions have been released, and some existing ones have attempted an overhaul of their entire sound stack to improve users' experience." [12:42] releasing linux distributions doesn't fix sound, coding work with oss and alsa fixes sound [12:43] pulseaudio is a PITA [12:43] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-134-16.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:43] pprkut, why so? [12:44] antler: Tell me about it. [12:44] slackytude: I have exactly one application that works with it, all others I tried failed. [12:44] he can't fault ALSA for not having mixing when being used in OSS3 compatibility mode because OSS3 had no mixing [12:45] pprkut, heh, you use the pulseaudio from sbo? [12:45] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:45] you ask for legacy (old / outdated) sound to work, ok it does, but the legacy system had no mixing, how can you complain if that legacy compatibility mode doesn't? [12:45] slackytude: while building it is easy, configuring it to work *good* seems hard [12:45] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [12:46] slackytude: well, yes and no :P [12:46] pprkut, yes, pulseaudio isnt exactly there yet [12:48] but it will probably be with us for years to come [12:48] slackytude: you interested in fixing sbo's pulseaudio? [12:48] insert_ (i=insert_@189.71.155.213) joined ##slackware. [12:48] not really [12:48] there you go. me neither... [12:48] Im interested in passing my exams [12:48] eek! is pulse audio now in slack?? [12:48] it had better not be [12:49] DralaFi, in sbo [12:49] or i'm personally murdering pat in the name of good taste [12:49] ah [12:49] pulse audio aint that bad [12:49] "I doubt it's a large percentage of users that even use suspend in Linux. Suspend in general in Linux isn't great, due to some rouge piece of hardware like a network or video card which screws it up. [12:49] " [12:49] ROGUE NOT ROUGE [12:50] dsfarghehg [12:50] HAHAHA some rouge piece of hardware? like whore hardware? 8-) [12:50] does it come in pink or cherry? 8-) [12:50] ragsagar (n=ragsagar@117.204.96.230) joined ##slackware. [12:50] neato. [12:50] TwinReverb: well most of those cards have at least two holes ;) [12:50] heh [12:50] just to carry the analogy :p [12:51] at least he didn't equate his opinion as fact, but i wish instead of "i doubt" he would say "research shows" etc [12:51] what, do we have to start a facebook poll FOR him to figure out how many people use Linux suspend mode and how many are happy with it? [12:51] Nick change: Nosuchnik_aw -> NoSuchNik [12:51] Action: TwinReverb is going to do exactly that [12:51] VampirePenguin (n=java@173-10-221-30-BusName-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [12:52] slackytude: the only reason for pulseaudio on SBo is vbox. As long as it works there, I won't make any updates/changes. But anyone else is free to do so. [12:52] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:52] what is vbox? [12:52] Action: thrice` sighs [12:53] TwinReverb: virtualbox [12:53] pprkut, the way things go, more and more apps will depend on it [12:53] TwinReverb, vertical box (widgets and layouts) [12:53] it seems most non-kde or non-gnome apps are dying :( [12:54] thrice`, where how? [12:54] morb (n=morb@93-138-90-163.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: "leaving" [12:54] thrice`, like? [12:54] thrice`: you repeat yourself :P [12:54] it seems MUCH more difficult these days to find a decent (pdf-viewer, music app, instant messenger) that doesn't want gnome/kde specifics [12:54] thrice`, xap/ still seems populated for the moment [12:55] pprkut: :) [12:55] thrice`, xpdf? [12:55] thrice`, xpdf, audacious, pidgin [12:55] xpdf is hideous :) [12:56] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.91.152) joined ##slackware. [12:56] for example, the major distros are dropping pidgin for empathy (a gnome-only IM app). what will happen to pidgin? will contributors still work on it? [12:56] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:56] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:57] thrice`, probably [12:57] I hope you're right :) [12:57] oh great, thrice` is here, that means i must run [12:57] thrice`, its got quite a userbase, even in windows land [12:57] jeev: don't worry, I'm taking off for a bike ride. you're safe for awhile [12:58] hm [12:58] maybe i can come mow you down [12:58] thrice`: in the long run I hope for a wide acceptance of telepathy [12:59] thrice`, but isnt pigeon a gtk app? (*shudder*) [12:59] in the long run, we are all dead [13:00] slackytude: lol :P [13:00] probably :) [13:00] pprkut: seems kinda neat :) another FDo project [13:00] thats a quote from Keyes, btw [13:01] hba (n=hba@189.188.150.148) joined ##slackware. [13:01] pprkut: I thought kopete was going to pick it up? [13:01] Keynes, I mean [13:01] its possible to get the md5sum of a dvd to compare it from the source iso? [13:01] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-154.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:01] dissociative: sure [13:01] dissociative, sure md5sum ISO [13:01] http://apps.facebook.com/realpolls/results/4zwqmb2uq?_fb_q=1 [13:01] md5sum /dev/sr0 [13:01] there, a poll for linux users: does ACPI suspend mode work or not work for you? [13:01] md5sum /path/to/iso.iso [13:03] I havent used such method before [13:03] and I dont know if it is safe [13:04] in exact terms [13:04] That method is not accurate for DVD media as padding at the end of the burning process happens which will throw the result of the md5sum off. [13:04] s/ACPI suspend mode/linux/ ;) [13:04] thrice`: I think it till is going to pick it up. kopete was moving at a really slow pace lately (lack of developers) :/ [13:04] That method is not accurate for DVD media as padding at the end of the burning process happens which will throw the result of the md5sum off. [13:05] dissociative: when i burn disks from iso using k3b, i use the verify option [13:05] not to mention kopete sucks donkey balls when it comes to MSNs with huge contact lists [13:05] but k3b hides what does exactly to the end user [13:05] dissociative: perhaps it is possible to do so after the fact (not sure) [13:06] Get the byte size of the iso on disk then do this: dd if=/dev/dvd | head -c | md5sum [13:06] insert__ (i=insert_@189.71.127.238) left irc: Connection timed out [13:06] if my memory doesnt fail, k3b can give you a log with the commands executed during the process.. [13:06] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.10.155) left irc: ":wq" [13:06] but it doesnt say anything about verification of burned media [13:07] dissociative, i've seen the verify option in k3b before [13:07] yup [13:07] however I found that to be buggy [13:07] it's a checkbox during the process [13:07] so I dont verify my disks using k3b [13:07] k3b only verifies media after it has been burned [13:07] just after [13:07] only [13:08] indeed [13:08] I do it so i can verify the disk at any point in time, even 6 months later! :) [13:08] *i do it in such a way that i can.... [13:08] The method that I stated should work. [13:09] gm152, I do: md5deep -r -l * > ../diskname.md5 then after burning, md5sum -c diskname.md5 [13:15] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [13:15] hello [13:15] hba (n=hba@189.188.150.148) left irc: "Leaving" [13:16] Mj, I was saying as you left last time, a downgrade to 12.1 was not likely to help. Nvidia drivers are not even included in Slackware. [13:16] it helps :| [13:16] the thing is, i made a mistake, "dont fix it if nots broken" [13:16] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434127.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:16] slackware 12.1 with the older nvidia driver worked too perfect [13:17] lol [13:17] so, why not just the older nvidia driver on 12.2? [13:17] wine, compiz-fusion, etc all worked [13:17] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:17] i tried, said kernel not compatible with it [13:17] just be sure you update with all the packages you ought to [13:17] im scared to touch slackpkg right now.. :| [13:17] then, the older kernel on 12.2! [13:17] i'm thinking slackware-12.1/patches/packages is probably rather large right about now [13:17] don't use slackpkg then [13:17] hehe i wont, gonna try to setup some kind of virtual environment later so i can test.. [13:18] md5sum is slower when feeding it with the iso image rather than the dvd+r [13:18] all i ever needed to do is simply telinit 1 then upgradepkg *.tgz then reboot (granted read UPGRADE.TXT for a full break-down of what you ought to do) [13:19] won't work for slack 13 :> [13:19] substitute txz for tgz for 13 8-P [13:19] if all of what i need are in 12.2, im not touching even 13 [13:19] maybe 14, thatll be several years later [13:20] that's sily [13:20] silly* [13:20] meh, im not good enough to fix errors stemming from nvidia drivers, the whole time i thought it was me [13:20] maybe just use open-source only stuff and not worry about the graphics [13:20] after adding myself to a group, isn't there away to "refresh" my profile so the changes take effect right away so i don't need to log out? [13:20] nvidia caused apps to segfault? [13:21] either that and/or not use compiz but oh well, i don't care [13:21] thrice`, yep, i uninstalled it and all the problems went away [13:21] agentc0re: don't think so [13:21] TwinReverb, you are nuts! >:O [13:21] i need my eye candy :D [13:21] i bought my laptop to do work and communicate with people, not impress my friends with my graphix [13:21] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) left ##slackware. [13:21] which is the lowest system runlevel that doesnt bring down the firewall and network stuff? [13:21] xfce for life [13:21] im at home, this is a desktop, i like the media center i setup, the fancy graphics i have, and the "Hello Jane" sound [13:21] xfce rocks my boat [13:22] dissociative, uh i thought init 1 didn't bring down the firewall, as for networking i have no clue [13:22] Xfce rocks [13:22] I think that it does [13:22] indeed, i would love using xfce but all of my stuff are too entrenched into kde right now, i can make the change but im sorta lazy lol [13:22] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-24-10-209-162.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [13:22] agentc0re could "ssh -X localhost" [13:22] oops [13:23] ut oh [13:23] agentc0re is here [13:23] morb (n=morb@93-138-90-163.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [13:23] Twice so far today, someone leaves while I am typing to him/her. [13:23] doesnt md5sum goes at max cpu usage? [13:23] rob0, your phenom is too slow [13:23] after this install on root im gonna switch [13:24] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-24-10-209-162.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:24] s/phenom is/fingers are/ [13:24] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A7571D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:24] rob0: Was I one of them? Apologies if I am. [13:24] i love 12.1 right now, used it for years, cant believe i was enticed to do 12.2 :| [13:24] i can, it's called progress [13:24] morb, no, missyjane was the other :) [13:24] phenom. [13:25] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [13:25] missyjane did 12.2 [13:25] lol im so sorry for leaving too quickly [13:25] omg [13:25] (lol, i love the english language on nights like this) [13:25] if the 2.4 kernel would support my wifi in this laptop i would use slack 11 [13:26] shit man my vista is always lagging after a day [13:27] jeev: That's not a bug, it's a feature :) [13:27] "Sound in Linux really doesn't have to be that sorry after all, the distributions just have to get their act together, and stop with all the finger pointing, propaganda, and FUD that is going around, which is only relevant to ancient versions of OSS, if not downright irrelevant or untrue." [13:28] schpenke (n=schpenke@cpe-66-25-50-212.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:28] custom hacks for linux sound stuff ARE the problem [13:28] simply compile the available tools for the kernel (oss4 and alsa) and offer both as a package to the end user [13:28] Action: StevenR installed slack current and sound Just Worked :) [13:28] stop hacking the @#$ source, either tell upstream about it or stfu and stop putting out custom rolled distributions with custom hacks [13:28] moh2a (i=1000@92.49.77.193) joined ##slackware. [13:29] sound has "just worked" on slackware for as long as i can remember [13:29] :) [13:29] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:29] mohaa (i=1000@89.16.15.61) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:29] sometime its magic D: [13:29] OK, I'm glad you guys don't have a problem. I don't understand why you think that _I_ didn't have problems w/ alsa? I mean, why would I lie here? [13:29] distributions should work FOR upstream, not AGAINST upstream by introducing their own hacks [13:29] brb [13:29] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: "Leaving" [13:30] no one said you lied [13:30] i'm just lucky to have been blessed with sound cards that are supported [13:30] TwinReverb: what cards do you recommend? [13:31] cards that are supported by the linux kernel [13:31] so far creative labs and intel both are good, and usually via [13:31] and usually C Media [13:31] i've been debating getting a new sound card, since things like pSX barf all over sound output... [13:31] stay away from anything from SiS [13:31] pSX? [13:31] playstation emulator [13:32] oh [13:32] Action: TwinReverb has no clue about pSX [13:32] slackware64-current FOR LIFE [13:32] sound output becomes a horrible choppy mess [13:32] and no amount of fiddling with the settings in pSX resolves it [13:32] does anyone know if slackware64 is going to include 32bit backwards compatibility libs? [13:32] Well, i have Intel sound card here in my laptop. Alsa recognized it on 12.1 and 12.2 without problems. The problem was sound quality, and apps locking each other from using sound card. Those are the reasons for me installing oss, not so I could rant around that alsa sucks and oos rules. I'd be using alsa if it worked right. [13:33] morb, dude just use alsa's dmix, it works fine [13:33] morb: i actually had the reverse scenario [13:33] you have to configure your stuff [13:33] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [13:33] testing [13:33] woot [13:33] :D [13:33] i wish there was a way to do persistant, app-specific volume control [13:34] insert_ (i=insert_@189.71.155.213) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:34] hackedhead: oss has app-specific vol control [13:34] morb: got any links to reading material on that? [13:34] morb, you get OSS installed? or still using alsa? [13:35] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.21.47) left irc: "Leaving." [13:35] removed alsa packages, using oss now [13:35] working good? [13:35] it's funny that people put up with Windows without any application-specific mixing (that i am aware of) [13:35] granted who cares [13:35] I use it for 4 hours or so, so I can't say. Works fine for now. [13:35] antoni (n=user@253.pool85-53-35.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [13:35] a [13:35] oops sorry [13:36] http://www.puresimplicity.net/~twinreverb/linux/.alsa/alsa.html [13:37] http://www.puresimplicity.net/~twinreverb/linux/alsa/alsa.html [13:37] oops [13:38] TwinReverb: I feel like you wrote this just for me..... [13:39] LOL [13:39] well actually i wrote it a while back [13:39] awww [13:39] way to ruin it TwinReverb :( [13:39] old page, maybe two weeks ago i updated it [13:39] but you can imagine that i wrote it just for you if you want [13:39] i might even put a note on the top "wrote it for morb" if it makes you smile 8-0 [13:40] A dedication! [13:40] "To morb, for not lying" [13:40] hehe [13:40] xD [13:40] :( [13:40] mernil (n=mernil@h-223-74.A258.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [13:40] oh yikes i have to install qt [13:40] hm [13:41] Hello my friends! [13:41] hello mernil [13:41] it was easy at first to use alsa without dmix because i have a nice set of usb altec lansing xt-1's for my music and the built in card on my laptop for system sounds [13:41] hi missy :-) [13:41] but after a while i wanted true mixing [13:41] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:41] granted, i'd like output mixing more than input mixing (or both: so i can mix all inputs to all outputs) but oh well [13:41] http://www.stysen.com/eng/product/product.asp?main_id=13&sub_id=24 thinking of getting one of these ... will it work like normal mass storage to linux? [13:42] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:42] PeanutHorst, www.linuxquestions.org/hcl [13:43] new york strip steaks 2 bucks a piece [13:43] granted i think linux already has the enclosure services hardware support so you should be good to go [13:43] should [13:43] some guy in a van came up to our fucking window and again we just get up it's like no big deal you're in your underwear [13:43] hm i dont remember my packages installing this fast [13:44] TwinReverb: do you have such an amp or what? [13:44] PeanutHorst, but honestly a lacie usb 2.0 external 500gb fits my needs and is compatible with linux, mac, and pc [13:44] mernil, yes, '72 silver face [13:44] ok i ought to be asleep by now [13:44] God bless [13:44] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:44] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [13:44] good night [13:44] oki.. :-) [13:45] ha! third one! [13:45] D: [13:45] jeev, help fix my phenom [13:45] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:45] daniell (n=daniell@78-131-56-65.static.hdsnet.hu) joined ##slackware. [13:45] hi [13:46] crap its raining [13:46] the_real_seejay (n=seejay@202.69.200.5) joined ##slackware. [13:46] anyone else in nyc here too? [13:46] exaltis (n=exaltis@athedsl-09472.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:46] nope, i live in hillbilly country, OOOOooooklanoma [13:47] nice, lucky [13:47] Oklahoma [13:47] i use a a marshall top .. 50 watt with a leslie cabinette. [13:47] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [13:47] it workes fine :-) [13:47] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [13:47] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:47] missyjane: It rained here in croatia 10 hours ago. You guys are way behind. [13:48] i like it, my closest neighbor lives about a quarter mile away, i own two & a half acres of land covered in oak trees [13:48] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [13:48] go croatsia.. :-P [13:48] without s :) [13:48] seejay_ (n=seejay@202.69.200.5) joined ##slackware. [13:48] maybe so.. ;-) [13:49] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [13:49] lol morb [13:49] we had katrina, beat that :X [13:49] rob0: what model is your new netbook? [13:49] http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/06/08/23/009210.shtml [13:49] jane.. the twurwl? [13:49] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:49] VampirePenguin (n=java@173-10-221-30-BusName-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:49] mernil, hm? [13:49] Nick change: seejay_ -> seejay [13:50] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [13:50] the usa gets all sorts of natural disasters, hurricanes, tornados, earthquakes, lions, tigers & bears oh my! [13:50] ls [13:50] and terrorisms [13:50] dont forget terrorists [13:50] jane.. the orcano [13:50] woah [13:50] jumperboy: a cheapie, Asus Eeepc 900 w/only 4gb SSD. [13:50] we only get polititians, but ours do much more damage [13:51] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [13:51] Hey, we have the best politicians money can buy! [13:51] and terrorists, and crazy governments and greedy wallstreeters that milk the system until it crashes sending the world in to economic chaos [13:51] psh, no politician can do better than our very own who bankrupted the entire treasury in our country in a few years [13:51] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.129) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:51] that demollised .. ahh.. hurricane katrina.. in the deep south.. sorry for my stupiedness.. :-P [13:53] :) [13:53] My country is in a finantial crysis for like 18 years, since the war, so we didn't even notice todays the rest of the world's crysis. [13:53] new orleans is a crazy place to live = several feet below sea level, right next to the gulf of mexico & lake ponchatrain and the mississippi river, that place is a flood just waiting to happen [13:55] the_real_seejay (n=seejay@202.69.200.5) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:55] antoni (n=user@253.pool85-53-35.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:55] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.120.201) joined ##slackware. [13:56] wow.. my pc is much faster, dunno why [13:56] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:56] power surge? ;p [13:56] D: no... [13:57] just.. i dunno.. [13:57] like its really really really fast [13:57] mmlj4 (n=jkelly@ip70-171-94-246.no.no.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:57] remember how i said i refuse to delete all the 3rd party stuff i had? must be one of the 3rd party stuff... [13:57] jane, between you and me.. do you have a pic of your self? [13:58] yes mernil [13:58] but im glad you made that public [13:58] :-D [13:58] while you are at it, do you want to paste my webcam address here too should i pm it to you? [13:58] missyjane: did you fix the problem from yesterday? [13:58] sorry :-P [13:58] mfillpot, hey! great to see you :) [13:58] te (n=te@70.253.33.34) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:58] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:59] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:59] mfillpot, no, BUT i do have something interesting tho, the problem turned out to be entirely of nvidias fault [13:59] Ummm... I don't want to be a boring pain in the ass, but could someone ty this... Download this game http://www.apistudios.com/hosted/marzec/quantum/index.php and try to play it with a music player running, and check if sound works. With alsa it didn't work for me. [13:59] who the hell is "milfpot" ? [14:00] znuzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:00] VampirePenguin (n=java@75-151-62-38-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [14:00] mernil, someone who i appreciate, tried to help me yesterday [14:00] missyjane: okay! [14:00] adeodatu1 (n=adeodatu@92.84.15.48) joined ##slackware. [14:01] VampirePenguin (n=java@75-151-62-38-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:01] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-189-22.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:01] VampirePenguin (n=java@173-10-221-30-BusName-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [14:02] I will be leaving for vacation in a few hours, so I will be offline for about a week [14:02] missyjane: actually, i talked with a girl some days ago, from memphis,tennessee. She hosted the building Elvis lived in. [14:02] landlady you mean? cool [14:03] Yeah, Landlady! [14:03] missyjane: was the issue with your nvidia drivers? [14:03] mfillpot, completely [14:03] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:04] missyjane: how did you track it back to them? [14:04] google the exact errors i had [14:04] then i uninstalled to see if its true [14:04] turns out, when i did that, all the problems i had were gone [14:05] so you had to upgrade your drivers? [14:05] mernil (n=mernil@h-223-74.A258.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: "leaving" [14:05] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [14:05] no, downgrade [14:06] why downgrade, were you attempting to use drivers not designed for your card? [14:06] i was using the latest driver [14:06] the older driver worked, the newest didnt [14:07] I have been through that before, have you tried patching the newer drivers to allow them to work? [14:07] how? [14:08] look it up in googel, I have had to do it a few times to allow older drivers to talk to my kernel [14:08] oh no this is 12.2 + with nvidias latest driver [14:10] surely you dont have to [14:11] i'm on (II) NVIDIA GLX Module 180.51 Fri Apr 17 00:35:49 PDT 2009 [14:11] i tried downgrading the nvidia driver in 12.2 but i couldnt, it said not compatible with kernel [14:11] hm what video card is that? [14:11] ooh new nvidia drivers... [14:12] lvinyl_ (n=guapoenc@190.245.121.39) joined ##slackware. [14:12] the_real_seejay (n=seejay@202.69.200.5) joined ##slackware. [14:13] missyjane, geforce 8500gt [14:13] number_three (n=chatzill@adsl-76-252-39-37.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:13] ooh.. 9600 here [14:13] ahh :) [14:14] hahaha. [14:14] Action: hackedhead will attempt to get a Ti4200 working today [14:14] stock 12.2 kernel, missyjane ? i'm doing stock kernel and latest nvidia driver no probs [14:14] yep stock [14:14] are you using kde? [14:14] cause i only get these said problems with kde [14:15] yep. are you letting nvidia configure xorg.conf? [14:15] which version of kde? [14:15] the one that came with 12.2 [14:15] ya [14:15] i am [14:15] 3.5.10 [14:15] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:16] Action: DralaFi is tempted to download 4.2.xxx beta via svn [14:16] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.208.168) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:16] Nick change: moh2a -> mohaa [14:16] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:16] seejay_ (n=seejay@202.69.200.5) joined ##slackware. [14:17] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:17] adeodatu1 (n=adeodatu@92.84.15.48) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:17] Nick change: seejay_ -> seejay [14:18] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-150.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:18] znuzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:19] missyjane: I would recommend changing the partition configuration of your comp to have a separate /home so that you that you can do a full upgrade when you decide to upgrade next. It is the depreciated packages that can cause the most trouble [14:19] mfillpot, i know.. :x... [14:19] the_real_seejay (n=seejay@202.69.200.5) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:20] correct me if I get this wrong, the issue with konsole was caused by by your nvidia drivers when you closed the application because of compiz close effect could not be triggered? [14:22] nope, i turned off compiz fusion to be sure [14:22] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-24-10-209-162.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving." [14:23] then I can't see he common function that would cause only konsole to be effected by a nvidia driver issue [14:23] I am glad it is fixed, but I am confused by how it ties to the issue [14:23] i have no idea either [14:23] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) left irc: "brb" [14:24] maybe is was just that it couldn't properly terminate the window because of deeper dependencies. [14:24] cmair (n=cmair@host136-41-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:25] the_real_seejay (n=seejay@202.69.200.5) joined ##slackware. [14:25] im still baffled by how nvidia driver can cause so much problems [14:26] Xires012 (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:26] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:27] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:27] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:28] I will research it further when I return, but I am out and enjoy everyone.. I should be back in just over a week [14:28] ok, thank you for this :D [14:28] OldSlacker (n=OldSlack@173-24-168-161.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:28] the_real_seejay (n=seejay@202.69.200.5) left irc: Client Quit [14:28] I'm always happy to help [14:29] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:29] i wish i was going on vacation, i would go to vegas, no wait... hawaii yeah... [14:29] OldSlacker (n=OldSlack@173-24-168-161.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [14:29] NukeDukem, to be honest, i can find a lot of joy living in a place like oklahoma [14:29] if it is stereotyped to be what i think it is.. calm.. quiet.. not a lot of ppl, etc [14:29] tons of forests? lakes? lets trade place [14:29] lol [14:30] Gubbe (i=noone@unaffiliated/gubbe) left ##slackware. [14:30] right now there is so much humidity in the air that you can grab it and wring out the water [14:30] really that hot? [14:30] it is in the upper 80s, i seen it get over 100 [14:30] its sitll raining and cold here [14:31] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:31] lots of lakes in the eastern half of the state, if i was rich i would move to Grand Lake O' the Cherokees or Eufaula [14:31] hehe [14:33] buy a house on the lake so you have a boat dock with a large boat in the back yard, that would be cool, i seen houses like that [14:33] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-64-44.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:34] missyjane: I just fixed a client's computer by uninstalling google desktop, which caused any browser using flash to crash. that was a big WTF... [14:34] yea really confusing [14:34] and baffling, was it a windows? [14:34] yep [14:34] vista [14:35] lvinyl_ (n=guapoenc@190.245.121.39) left irc: Client Quit [14:35] ah, that explains it. [14:35] Vista should be removed [14:35] BTW, when is Windows 4 coming out? [14:35] :) [14:36] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [14:36] I stopped at 3.11 [14:36] they should release Windows 10 and call it Windows X [14:36] That will break all search engines for good... [14:37] lol wine and qt is still compiling [14:37] heh qt4 takes a while [14:38] the downside of a new system, at least everything is clean like... like the clean air in oklahoma! [14:39] antler: I have qt4 down to 30 minutes here :D [14:39] Windows X ... X Window System [14:40] bbl [14:40] pprkut: i think it's a bit more for me. 3800+ @ 2.5ghz, 4 gb ram [14:40] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:40] Axius (n=samyw@92.84.2.250) joined ##slackware. [14:42] Vats (n=vats@122.164.73.190) joined ##slackware. [14:43] groo (n=groo@201-92-215-115.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:43] number_three (n=chatzill@adsl-76-252-39-37.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [14:44] antler: I compile on my home network using icecream. 2 pcs, one core duo @ 2GHz, 2GB RAM and one c2d @ 2.66GHz, 4 GB RAM [14:45] hm do you have any experience with a quad core? [14:45] wish i hand about a grand to spare for a new board, cpu, and ram [14:45] missyjane: nope, not me [14:46] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:46] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-24-10-209-162.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:46] pprkut, i think... i think you should change your name [14:47] i keep thinking "peoples republic of china/korea" with that [14:47] lol [14:47] prc or prk [14:47] >< [14:47] it's actually 'republic of korea' [14:47] groo (n=groo@201-92-215-115.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [14:47] oh i know, just trying to say his name, the acrymn [14:49] Ekc (n=iskar@77-85-30-36.btc-net.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [14:50] or maybe a two cpu board and two quad cores would be good. then i can join the ranks of edman007 [14:51] lol he has that? [14:52] yeah, he's got some insane server board and two quads [14:52] his uncle died and left him $10 000. he spent it all on hookers and a new computer [14:52] antler: for speeding up compilation times I would buy another cheap machine. Much bigger boost, and I don't need more power in other areas. [14:53] :/ im sorry about his uncle [14:55] my system is 90% done! [14:55] just gotta setup iptables after qt [14:55] pprkut: (to me) 30 mins or 3 hours compilation time makes little difference. i don't compile enough for that to matter. i would however like to get a new system one of these days [14:56] missyjane: just use alienBOB 's firewall generator. it's fast and good (imo) [14:57] lol [14:57] what doesnt alienbob have? [14:57] firehol on SBo is nice. [14:57] Whirled peas. [14:58] dude went to dartmouth [14:58] oh shit [14:58] ragsagar (n=ragsagar@117.204.96.230) left irc: "Q!" [14:59] v4nelle (n=van@adsl3-216.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:00] agentc0re: so how much for a new tranny? [15:01] tranny? D: [15:01] joshyro (n=josh@189.149.90.219) joined ##slackware. [15:02] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-189-22.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [15:02] antler: Probably more than i want to pay :P [15:02] Hi there, im using Slackware 12.2 but now i want use a Bluetooth device, but i can't find de sdpd comman how i can start it? any librery missing :( [15:02] I don't know yet, the place that will look at it is open on monday. [15:02] If you have to ask, you can't afford it. [15:03] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [15:03] antler: Could be a rebuilt or something simple as a gear replacement. I have a manual so it's not like an Auto. [15:03] agentc0re: wake make? [15:03] oh that helps a bit [15:03] *what [15:03] joshyro: /etc/rc.d/rc.bluetooth start [15:03] auto tran's you'll usually have to replace from what i know if they start to take a dump. [15:04] i have a 2000 outback. [15:04] Simbioz (n=simbiozz@190.96.33.204) joined ##slackware. [15:05] i miss driving standard [15:05] there's no other way imo. [15:05] :D [15:05] great [15:05] i cant talk about beer or cars [15:05] :( [15:05] You're not driving otherwise. The car is driving you. [15:05] why's that missyjane? [15:05] beej71 (n=beej@zork.zork.net) left irc: "Client exiting" [15:05] because i dont like drinking and i dont know how to drive [15:06] Never got your license or not old enough? [15:06] everything (except age) [15:06] i cant afford a car, etd [15:06] etc [15:06] bummer. [15:07] the drinking part is easy, we'll just beerboard you :P [15:07] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:07] you must live in a big city, anywhere else in USA, you pretty much need a car. [15:08] iclebyte_ (n=jamie@87.244.83.253) joined ##slackware. [15:09] lol [15:09] nah, i use the subway system [15:09] agentc0re: i think the strut assembly needs replacement in one of mine. [15:09] i thought everyone in NYC took the subway or a taxi [15:09] alpha213 (n=alpha@cpe-72-183-217-40.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:09] ya, so not much need for a car [15:10] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-64-44.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:10] iclebyte (n=jamie@82.112.155.22) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [15:10] CmdLnKid (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: "Command not found." [15:10] pprkut: after type the command, the message is -Starting Bluetooth subsystem: hcid sdp rfcomm passkeys- [15:10] dont feel bad missyjane owning a car can be expensive [15:11] i dont, after seeing a few car accident with ppl coming out charred :x [15:11] yep. gas just shot up to $1.05CDN / litre where i am. [15:11] antler: Car problems are never fun dude. [15:11] joshyro: you just started sdpd :) [15:12] So i got the new iPhone 3g S yesterday. I'm now forced to have a vbox of windows to just use iTunes... So lame. [15:12] i wish i can stop qt so i can reboot the computer and resume it [15:12] how are you setting up the vbox anyway? [15:12] pprkut: ok, still reading =) [15:13] Really pisses me off that apple's os is based of *nix (BSD i think) and yet they don't make a version for one or any of them. [15:13] missyjane: Compilation should continue where it was interrupted. [15:13] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:13] As long as you don't invoke 'make clean' [15:13] really? if i hit ctrl+c? [15:13] Yes. [15:14] agentc0re, its called market share [15:14] gm152, oh wow.. i seriously had no idea.. how did you know that/ [15:14] ? [15:14] i find it interesting how ppl know these nifty little things that i never knew.. [15:14] missyjane: When my compilations were interrupted due to a compilation fault. [15:14] missyjane: make sure you're not on a temporary filesystem either, or that it won't be removed otherwise before continuing to compile [15:15] beej71 (n=beej@zork.zork.net) joined ##slackware. [15:18] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:20] hm nopep [15:20] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [15:20] geetings [15:20] greetings too [15:22] any really gung ho movie buffs around? [15:24] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:26] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [15:27] alpha213 (n=alpha@cpe-72-183-217-40.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:27] i am [15:27] somewhat.. [15:28] hiya. I was just trying to figure out which movie this was from . . . http://www.moviegunservices.com/mgs_pics/Img34.gif [15:28] or if it was an out-take that never made it to the screen [15:28] D: old old movie [15:28] omg.. a 90s movie, cant remember name [15:30] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:30] you can ask on 4chan im sure [15:30] ask in /4/ [15:30] err /r/ [15:30] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-168-26.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:31] Greeting everybody. :) [15:31] Greetings. :P [15:31] hi firebird [15:31] hello [15:31] hi firebird619 [15:31] Hey NyteOwl, how's it going? [15:32] not bad. trying to track down a movie a scene is from ... http://www.moviegunservices.com/mgs_pics/Img34.gif [15:33] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-19-129-196.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:33] Hmm, that doesn't look familiar to me, but then I don't watch very many movies. [15:33] just ask in 4chan, god, youll get a response in like 10 min [15:34] tuxrules (n=raghu@ppp-69-219-140-159.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [15:35] pprkut: Woot! Now i can find my cell phone, but i cant send files yet... :( [15:35] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.129) joined ##slackware. [15:35] 4chan is a channelthen I assume :) [15:36] IceW (n=old-time@201-95-17-181.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:36] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:36] I've been trying to access my cell phone from the computer - no luck so fdar [15:37] joshyro: if you use kde you can use kdebluetooth. works rather well for sending files [15:37] installed x86 current and loving it...many thanks to Pat and the team. [15:38] one small request although I know it is a bit late...is there any chance of gpa and gpgme upgrade. Both had new version out in last few days [15:38] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-168-26.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Killed buffer"). [15:39] pprkut: kdebluetooth is already on my Linux box :D [15:39] NyteOwl, 4chan.org [15:40] k [15:40] Ekc (n=iskar@79-100-9-231.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [15:40] pprkut: i dont know what happend when i start kdebluetooth the error message says: The process fot the bluetooth protocol died unexpectally :( [15:41] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.120.201) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:42] joshyro: argh, might be the dbus problem :( [15:43] :( [15:43] pprkut: So what thats mean? :S [15:43] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-76-179-206-255.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:45] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. 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[15:51] i wonder why this happens [15:51] error while loading shared libraries: libQtXml.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [15:51] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-108-23.ip38.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [15:51] but hten [15:51] /usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.4.0/lib/libQtXml.so.4 [15:52] joshyro: then stop rc.bluetooth, restart rc.messagebus and start rc.bluetooth again (preferable all out of X) [15:56] maybe i installed qt wrongly :| [15:56] ./keepassx.SlackBuild: line 60: qmake-qt4: command not found [15:56] so what should i do now? [15:56] lessee... [15:57] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.91.152) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:57] ok im pretty sure i installed qt incorrectly [15:58] remove your /usr/local/Trolltech one [15:58] use the script at slackbuilds.org [15:58] alrighty [15:58] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.91.152) joined ##slackware. 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[16:06] 4chan deosn't seem to want to uplaod. oh well [16:06] meh [16:06] ill do it for you [16:06] gimme link to your pic again [16:07] uSlacker (n=gmartin@pool-71-185-211-243.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:12] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.91.152) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:13] Vats (n=vats@122.164.73.190) left ##slackware. [16:15] http://www.moviegunservices.com/mgs_pics/Img34.gif [16:15] thanks [16:19] anyone that uses a usb keyboard and VirtualBox+windows_xp has tried making accessible the usb keyboard to the winxp guest in virtualbox? [16:20] mernil (n=mernil@h-223-74.A258.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [16:20] hi all! :-) [16:20] I think that it screws the usb host support in my kernel until I reboot the host [16:20] dissociative: I have done that, VBox took full control of the keyboard and I couldn't use it with the slackware host until I either logged out and in or restarted the host. [16:20] and a speciall hi to misseyjane! [16:21] firebird619: It happens even with any kind of usb device that you plug after that [16:21] dissociative: I've never had it happen with other usb devices, just the keyboard. [16:22] furebord.. you seem so of-topic :-( [16:22] after that I plugged an usb stick and I got an error message in dmesg [16:22] just like when replugging the usb keyboard [16:22] dissociative: Hmm, that's odd. [16:22] allmost distruptive.. !! [16:22] mernil: How the heck am I off topic? [16:22] you mothafucker :-( [16:23] dissociative: what was the dmesg error? [16:24] Action: chopp whacks mernil upside the hairdo with his motha [16:24] something about device cant get address blah blah [16:24] I think I dont have it right now [16:24] let me check in /var/log/ [16:24] dissociative: Hmm, I don't have a XP guest anymore or I'd try it again. [16:25] you fuckers.. thanks for nothing choppy dangler below down there :-P [16:25] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [16:25] dissociative: I know what you mean with the keyboard though, I've had the exact same thing happen everytime. [16:25] and with that said.. i upptight my belt [16:27] firebird619: Jun 19 19:35:04 slacktoo kernel: usb 2-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110 [16:27] Jun 19 19:35:14 slacktoo kernel: usb 2-2: device not accepting address 10, error [16:27] and so [16:27] mernil (n=mernil@h-223-74.A258.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Client Quit [16:28] whiskey tango foxtrot? [16:28] y0 Urchlay, how's it going? [16:28] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@79.101.131.113) joined ##slackware. [16:28] dunno yet. not quite conscious, waiting on mah coffeeee [16:28] joannis (n=chatzill@adsl-dyn186.91-127-84.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [16:29] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:29] it must be a bug or something in the virtualbox kernel module [16:29] dissociative: Hmm, I haven't ever seen those errors, so I'm not sure what to do about them. Maybe someone else will come along that can be of some more help. [16:29] Could be, I know it's sure an annoying problem. :P [16:29] with the keyboard that is. [16:30] Action: firebird619 gives Urchlay a gallon container of coffee. [16:30] It did solve just by logging out [16:30] I had to really reboot [16:30] that is just unnecesary [16:30] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-253.isimples.com.br) left irc: No route to host [16:30] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [16:30] yeah, it must be a bug or something somewhere, it shouldn't really lock the keyboard like that. [16:32] eichi (n=eichi@p5B2045E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:32] Havacci (n=havacci@unaffiliated/havacci) left irc: "Leaving" [16:33] Ilie (n=Ilie@89.136.81.8) joined ##slackware. [16:33] hi, from where can I download 64 bit slackware ? [16:34] any of the mirrors. I don't believe there is an iso yet, you'll have to make your own. [16:35] thanks for the tip firebird619 [16:35] you're welcome [16:35] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:36] joannis (n=chatzill@adsl-dyn186.91-127-84.t-com.sk) left irc: "Chatzilla 0.9.75.1 [SeaMonkey 1.1.16/2009041115]" [16:37] I guess I should install 12.2 and wait for 13.0 on 64 and reinstall it then [16:37] firebird619: what kernel did you use when that happened? [16:37] kernel verson [16:37] version [16:38] OldSlacker (n=OldSlack@173-24-168-161.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:38] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [16:40] Ilie: Some iso are available here: ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/ [16:40] dissociative: At the time this happened, it was 2.6.27.7, but iirc, it happened with a few other kernels also. [16:40] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:40] thanks for the link gm152 [16:41] You're welcome. [16:41] blarg [16:42] so was that mernil entity a person or some kind of poorly-coded insult bot? [16:44] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [16:44] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:44] Urchlay: lol, not sure. [16:44] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:44] sadly that's a person. [16:44] christian (n=christia@kobz-590d12dc.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [16:44] he's been banned a couple of times before [16:44] hello [16:44] BP{k}: I thought his nick was familiar. [16:45] hi all [16:45] Hey nille_ [16:45] Nick change: thetrooper -> egrgor [16:45] [16:45] v4nelle (n=van@adsl3-216.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:45] firebird619 how are you? [16:46] doing great, thanks. you? [16:46] i'm fine [16:46] there is a typo in the current changelog, second line: testing/packages/mesa-7.4.3-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded. [16:46] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:46] the x86_64 should be i486 [16:46] y0 gar0t0 [16:47] only that i need to start updating rc.cdemud, i said i would to it for the next release and now it's coming [16:47] christian: Looks right to me. [16:48] I'm trying to md5sum a iso image of 2.2GB but just nothing happens... [16:48] christian: that's how it is suppose to be, there isn't a typo there. [16:48] gm152: why? [16:48] md5sum stays eating like 0.5 to 1.0% of cpu [16:48] [16:48] a question [16:48] current is 32 bit [16:48] The line you're referring to is from Slackware64 which does exist. [16:48] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [16:48] dissociative it takes some time [16:48] can I use Slackbuilds from 12.2 for compiling and installing in current? [16:48] gm152: ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt [16:49] confrey: i have been [16:49] confrey: yes. [16:49] when I did it from the dvd media where I burned the iso it took much less time [16:49] well [16:49] i been useing an other laptop for some day so now mine feels strange so typos will come [16:49] confrey: you can yes, but not all of them will work. [16:49] pupit1 (n=pupit@91.150.106.220) joined ##slackware. [16:49] while using Slackbuilds, what kind of optimization can I have about processor? [16:50] march=i686 [16:50] confrey: also note that some dependencies may have been added to current (boost, for example) [16:50] You're right. I'm looking at a mirror which has not been updated yet. [16:50] gm152: lol, he is right. :P [16:51] christian: good work. :) [16:51] the package itself is ok, it is i486 [16:51] firebird619: hey man!! [16:52] dissociative an burner apps counts faster because i think they do it diffrently [16:52] firebird619: I'm trying to cloning physical machine linux to virtual machine on xenserver :~ [16:52] christian: sorry about saying it wasn't a typo before. Thanks for bringing that up. :) [16:52] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-64-44.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [16:52] gar0t0: nice, going well? [16:53] NyteOwl, are you still here? [16:53] firebird619: nope!! Linux dont suporte converter action [16:53] firebird619: no problem [16:53] and hi hi mernil [16:53] missyjane: interesting existential quetion :) [16:54] gar0t0: ouch, so your attempts aren't working. [16:54] missyjane: he left. [16:54] thank god [16:54] Action: NyteOwl hasn't been here in years :) [16:54] doh [16:54] lol NyteOwl ok i was afk when you finally sent me the link [16:54] dissociative, I'd like to compile some apps optimizing for my cpu, intel Atom (xeon), can I do it with slackbuilds? [16:55] missyjane: yep, sorry - been back and forth a bit here today [16:55] (so what else is new) :) [16:55] confrey: you can do anything you want with a slackbuild, just edit it [16:55] firebird619: yes!! but my "boss" fight to me, because he says I did "soft body" (i dont know what expression I use in english) [16:56] even that my english sux [16:56] :D [16:56] eichi (n=eichi@p5B2045E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [16:56] lol [16:56] gar0t0: your english seems good to me. [16:56] depends of the gcc g++ version [16:56] NyteOwl, ok give me a moment [16:56] firebird619: I have to learn more :) [16:56] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-159-243.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:57] lol, fortune: nice.....If pro is the opposite of con, what is the opposite of progress? [16:57] i.e. congress. :P [16:57] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [16:57] mernil will not re-join any time soon [16:57] alienBOB: ++ [16:57] hi alienbob [16:57] alienBOB: hey Eric you saw my pvt msg ? [16:57] hallelujah [16:58] i wonder.. [16:58] chopp: ++ :) [16:58] if alienbob ever divorce or break up with his gf or wife, will he ban her from here :| [16:58] "**tch, get out of my channel" [16:58] missyjane: maybe she's not here in the first place. :) [16:58] gar0t0: I even answered it [16:58] or, how do you know he's not single? :P [16:59] bah [16:59] what if she is? what if he is taken? [16:59] Questions questions [16:59] He's too good-looking to be single! ;) [16:59] What if I am a she? [16:59] lol [16:59] Answers answers? [16:59] alienBOB: hm! I'm not seen [16:59] alienbob? youd be AlienKim [16:59] alienBOB: :O, good point. :P [16:59] err AlienKIM [16:59] missyjane: I thought you were hot for The-Croupier.....woman, make up your mind! :P [16:59] It is not a "bug" gar0t0 - if you use "-w" the script will just write a standard .conf file, and you have to edit that. Other parameters on the commandline will not be considered or used [16:59] maybe the BOB is short for bobette? [16:59] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:00] hahaha [17:00] lol chopp how come you keep referring TheTrash to me? i can hardly remember him [17:00] errr The-Croupier [17:00] Action: alienBOB could be alienBOOB [17:00] lol [17:00] hehe [17:00] either way alienbob is a hot chick [17:00] and im a sexy man [17:00] Prove it! [17:00] so come on alienbob, and ill take you out to a romantic dinner and a long walk on the beach [17:00] right, alien. Where he comes from they have 7 genders, you don't even want to know the details... [17:00] missyjane: well I dunno, he ask's about you all the time, as if you allready hooked up or something. [17:01] alienBOB: ok!! I thought he felt the command line parameters [17:01] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:01] chopp, really? he couldve asked me for contacts [17:01] But my tentacles work miracles on women I assure you [17:01] haha [17:01] omg! [17:01] so alienbob is cthulu in disguise?? [17:01] "tell him to keep his testicles off me!" [17:01] fixed omg! my innocent eyes! [17:01] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.129) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:01] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-150.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:01] I'm glad someone reads Lovecraft in here [17:02] missyjane: now what does that mean ! o O [17:02] lol :D [17:02] missyjane: are you a female slackware user ? [17:03] missyjane: they are quite rare ones ;) [17:03] init[1]: didnt you know? We're all girls in here! [17:03] according to some folks, im a fbi member, to another im just another girl, still to others who insist, im a boy [17:03] so take your pick, - fbi, - girl, - guy, - pedobear [17:03] missyjane: u are good [17:03] id prefer you NOT pick pedobear [17:03] Yuck! [17:03] I think they're all wrong. You're ASCII. [17:04] im a God's child but still no power for miracle :D [17:04] alienBOB: no way a girl , would have Patience to work on slackware :P [17:04] it need ! killer instincts , that girls lag . [17:04] Pat's wife does kernels :) [17:05] lol thrice` [17:05] He said she no longer does that, she manages a little girl. [17:05] :< [17:05] IceW (n=old-time@201-95-17-181.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:05] cmair (n=cmair@host136-41-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:06] missyjane: err wait..it wasn't The-Croupier, I think it was init[1] [17:06] Ilie (n=Ilie@89.136.81.8) left irc: [17:06] isn't missyjane an spam bot? [17:06] nille_: no, she just plays one on irc. :P [17:06] haha [17:07] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) joined ##slackware. [17:08] Action: init[1] just felt in love with dokuwiki along with battlehorse template ! aaa...aa [17:08] VampirePenguin (n=java@173-10-221-30-BusName-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:08] init[1]: Was if love at first click? [17:08] s/if/it/ [17:08] haha [17:09] firebird619: yep! [17:09] you mean, love at first "site" ? [17:09] firebird619: you will love it [17:09] thrice`: hahaha, yeah. [17:09] init[1] did dokuwiki let you play with the mouse [17:09] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC030EE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:09] < gm152> Get the byte size of the iso on disk then do this: dd if=/dev/dvd | head -c | md5sum <-- doesnt work [17:10] firebird619: if you like slackware you will like the simplicity of dokuwiki! :) [17:10] can someone do me a favour? does "readelf -d /usr/bin/cdda2wav|grep RPATH" return anything? [17:10] init[1]: s/like/love. I love slackware. :) [17:10] nille_: :) no but with the cat :P [17:10] 0x000000000000000f (RPATH) Library rpath: [/usr/lib:/opt/schily/lib:../libs/amd-athlon-tm--64-x2-dual-core-processor-5200+-linux-cc] [17:10] firebird619: try dokuwiki along with battlehorse template [17:11] pussycat? [17:11] thrice`: thanks [17:11] /opt/schily/lib ?? [17:11] cdrtools is a bit of a mess [17:11] chopp, lol what? :p nille_ I am now a spam bot. You just activated cow mode. [17:11] great software but not very linux friendly [17:11] mooo [17:11] as its author [17:11] nille_: :) [17:12] all girls are cows so whats new? [17:12] Define "doesn't work". [17:12] init[1]: not bad. [17:12] chopp: oink. [17:12] firebird619: did you try it that fast ? o O [17:12] if we are all farm animal, then Pat is the farmer [17:12] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-253.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:12] No [17:12] init[1]: I checked an ss of it. :) [17:12] FOUR LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BAAAAAAAAAAAD [17:13] Pat is the post man [17:13] lol [17:13] why post man? [17:14] http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7600415793454128775 [17:14] have you never seen post man Pat? [17:14] firebird619: have you seen the django http://www.djangoproject.com/ .. quite sexy ;) [17:15] tuxrules (n=raghu@ppp-69-219-140-159.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:15] god [17:15] qt is still doing its thing [17:15] init[1]: No, hadn't seen that before. [17:15] missyjane: building qt4? That'll take a while. [17:16] sigh [17:16] kde would take eternity to build here ,,, thou i don't see the point of compiling it [17:17] Well qt is looking cute ;) [17:17] i always compile kde myself [17:17] qt is c++ thingie :( [17:17] missyjane: did you get konsole to function [17:18] init[1]: also has python bindings, among other things [17:18] cmair (n=cmair@host136-41-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [17:19] fred: yea . .. AFAIK seen qt is part of LSB [17:19] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.91.152) joined ##slackware. [17:19] is the throughput of large files with ext3 very poor or what? [17:19] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:20] TClayton, nope but speaking of it, i found out the problem [17:20] pupit (n=pupit@91.150.106.65) joined ##slackware. [17:20] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [17:21] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [17:22] firebird619: i found some other typos: the kernel-packages are xz-compressed, but the changelog describes them with tgz [17:23] missyjane: profile issue? [17:23] no [17:23] nvidia [17:24] wbny is on the air [17:24] ndivia is evil... like, the word literally means that, in Latin or something [17:24] er, nvidie [17:24] dammit [17:24] haha [17:25] in english we have "invidious" [17:25] hi firebird619 [17:25] hey NukeDukem [17:26] hm. "invidia" in Latin means "envy". Did not know that... [17:26] (ignore me, I'm prattling) [17:26] now youdo. [17:26] err you do [17:27] Action: firebird619 adds Urchlay to /ignore. :P [17:27] lol, nvidia users are jealous they dont have an ati card to suffer from [17:27] LOL firebird619 / UrchLap [17:27] UrchLay [17:27] meh ati folks have their own problems, i like nvidia [17:27] Action: firebird619 uses nvidia [17:28] me too, i have two PCs with 8400 nvidia cards in them [17:28] Action: DeeeeP uses old nvidia [17:28] NukeDukem: 5200 here [17:28] be jealous [17:28] for i have the best of the best [17:28] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:28] i have 9600 [17:28] Channel flood from missyjane -- kicking [17:28] :D [17:28] missyjane kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [17:28] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [17:28] hahahahahahaha [17:28] that was awesome [17:28] fixed: You have been kicked from ##slackware by slackboy (I hate how you have better stuff than me) [17:28] i am jealois missyjane [17:28] pupit1 (n=pupit@91.150.106.220) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:29] [16:27] *** missyjane has been kicked from the channel by slackboy (flood). [17:29] So, that's what happens to the best also, they get kicked. :) [17:29] psh [17:30] jealousy son [17:30] mine is 4600 Ti [17:30] believe me, I'm not jealous [17:30] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl9-76-164.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:30] lol [17:30] i have a lovely old laptop with such crappy ati graphics that i do not bother to install X or xapps in and just run it with console apps [17:31] not buying a new video card until I have a new motherboard (buying AGP now is a waste) [17:31] NukeDukem: nothing wrong with that [17:31] well my 9600 is awesome, it can play any game i have tossed at it including games like crysis on high settings [17:31] a whole 16 megs of video mem [17:31] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:31] new motherboard will mean new CPU and RAM. Pretty much all I get to keep is the case, PSU, and drives [17:31] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:32] agp might not be available, you will most like have go get PCIe [17:32] yes I know [17:33] what case does everyone here have? [17:33] that's why I said it would be a waste to buy an AGP card now (I'd have to replace it when I replace the motherboard) [17:33] PCIe stuff seems to be cheaper than AGP. I noticed that with video cards anyway. [17:33] Action: firebird619 wishes my pc had PCIe [17:33] no fancy case here, just ugly beige boxes [17:33] Dell 8300 case here [17:34] Urchlay, why a waste ? [17:34] mine is agp [17:34] NukeDukem: you mean it isn't see through with lights, sounds, etc. :P [17:34] nope [17:34] my stuff looks AMAZING [17:34] D: [17:34] DeeeeP: well I already have an AGP card, on a motherboard with an AGP slot. But anything I buy, I keep for years... might as well buy PCIe card and motherboard together, when it's time to upgrade [17:35] i got all this "best" stuff including quad core and 9600 for under 500 [17:35] :| [17:35] DeeeeP: He didn't mean a waste that way, he meant beings he's going to get a new motherboard, it'd be a waste to buy agp now, just to turn around and have to buy PCIe stuff. [17:35] right [17:35] but you need a new cpu also [17:35] big $ upgrade [17:35] yeah [17:35] which is why I haven't done it yet [17:36] Nick change: NoSuchNik -> Nosuchnik_aw [17:36] urchlay: will you go onboard? ;) [17:36] ewww [17:36] ohgoshno [17:36] erizoe: that's just insanity. ;) [17:36] I don't even like onboard NICs [17:37] Urchlay: my nic is onboard. :P [17:37] I love onboard, i can play WoW but i don't really do games anyways...they're a waste of time. [17:37] it works, so I don't get anything else. [17:37] why do you love onboard? [17:37] firebird619: right now, forced to use wireless, so not using the onboard NIC [17:37] it's slack. [17:37] (this board's nowhere near new enough to have onboard wireless) [17:37] erizoe, i disagree, youre gonna die anyway, might as wlel make the best use of it [17:37] Urchlay: that's to bad. [17:37] If it works for Gameboy Advance being emulated to play castlevania then it's good enough, It's 1 less hardware to be having. [17:38] integrated everything would be nice. [17:38] christian (n=christia@kobz-590d12dc.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: "Leaving." [17:39] Urchlay: you use crontab at all? Is there anything wrong with this entry? */1 ****/usr/bin/mpop. Is that right for having it run every minute? [17:40] i also disagree, integrated hardware ssuck :| [17:40] firebird619, i think * should have a space between them [17:40] and put a boatload of pressure on that hardware and heating becomes a problem [17:40] DeeeeP: Hmm, maybe that's it. Thanks. [17:41] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-167-4.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:41] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [17:41] an ice cold glass of water in your case is a great way to liquid cool for very little money [17:41] DeeeeP: what about a space between the first * and the /1? [17:41] yeah, too many *'s, not enough spaces [17:42] Urchlay: to many *? How many should I have? [17:42] 5 [17:42] you actually can use * * * * * mpop [17:42] is there any grammar software for slackware? [17:42] cron's granularity is 1 minute, all stars means once per minute [17:42] Urchlay: so, I don't need the /1? I want it to run every minute. That's what checks my e-mail. [17:42] Oh, ok. Thanks guys. [17:42] right [17:43] every minute is */1 [17:43] every minute is also just plain * [17:43] 1 only , is the first minute or every hour [17:43] hmm ok [17:43] firebird619: you probably want to redirect its stdout/stderr [17:43] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-140-53-18.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:43] how would I do that? [17:43] nothing like having your email-checker cause emails to be sent to you... [17:43] mpop &> /dev/null [17:44] so I can use * * * * * mpop &> /dev/null? [17:44] or, if it might actually have something useful: mpop >> somefile 2>&1 [17:44] (depends on whether its stdout/err will be needed for debugging purposes) [17:44] What it outputs if I run from cli is just receiving message # of # [17:45] So I don't really need that. [17:45] If it would stop working for whatever reason, I could always run it from a cli and see what errors it's giving. [17:45] right [17:45] so /dev/null it is, and your line looks fine to me [17:46] ok, thank you. [17:47] i guess [17:47] not [17:47] looks what I got with gnu screen: ####-3.1$ #########°+#±0#+±#++#°## [17:47] do you guys have any hint on how i can migrate my kde stuff to xfce4? :D [17:47] being the antisocial bastard I am, I figure nobody's email is so important it can't wait 5 minutes, so I'd probably not check it every single minute :) [17:47] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:47] lol [17:48] plus, you might want to find out what happens if your network goes down [17:48] Hmm, I can't delete that line to retype it or anything. [17:48] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [17:48] like, if the cable modem/DSL whatever dies for 10 minutes, like they're prone to do, you might have 10 mpop processes patiently waiting to log in and get your mail [17:49] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434127.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:49] Well, I know that if something else is checking mail, it just says pop3 is busy [17:49] then when the network resurrects itself, all 10 of them try to log in at once... what should happen? what *does* happen? do you have any control over it? [17:49] oh, the server does that for you? [17:50] That's what mpop outputs when there's more than one thing checking mail. [17:50] so it's either the server doing it, or local file locking or such [17:51] it outputs that, and exits? you should be fine [17:51] I'm not sure which is doing that, but yeah, it outputs that and exits [17:51] Why can't I edit this crontab line now. [17:52] what are you editing it with? [17:52] FINALLY! OH GOD YES! [17:52] I use crontab -e which opens, I'm not sure if it's vi or vim, or whatever the default is. [17:53] vim needs a tiny bit of help to play nice with crontab, add "set backupcopy=yes" to ~/.vimrc for whichever user [17:53] I press I for insert, and it just won't let me edit it. [17:53] ok, I'll try that, thanks. [17:53] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [17:53] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [17:53] ehhh. That isn't right [17:53] ok bbl [17:53] :D ty everyone for the help [17:53] that isn't the usual problem vim has with crontab, I mean [17:53] NyteOwl, i will get the movie name, it seems noone is responding today [17:54] heh [17:54] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [17:54] hba (n=hba@189.188.140.249) joined ##slackware. [17:54] gustaf_ (n=gustaf@cm-84.215.92.40.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [17:55] do you think does slack-current became stable when? [17:55] Urchlay: heh, nope, that didn't work at all. Is there a way to edit it with another editor like nano or something? Or, is there a file itself I can open and edit. [17:55] confrey: whenever it's ready. We're not sure exactly when. It seems like it's getting close though. [17:56] firebird619, how to partecipate to testing and debugging? [18:01] hba (n=hba@189.188.140.249) left irc: "leaving" [18:04] hey firebird619 looks like I can reestablish the usb keyboard by reloading the uhci_hcd kernel module in my machine [18:04] confrey: send bug reports by e-mailing the team [18:06] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.24) joined ##slackware. [18:06] appzer0, ok [18:06] uhm no. [18:06] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC030EE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:06] confrey: 1) install slackware-current 2) if you think you have a bug, talk to the poeple here .. if other people confirm it .. *then* figure out if it due to the way Pat build the package or it is an upstream issue, and mail the relevant party. [18:07] just randomly mailing the slackware-development tean without confirming bugs, is pretty and utterly useless. [18:07] BP{k}, , ok [18:07] I run compiz, but I have this : bash-3.1$ compiz (core) - Fatal: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing [18:08] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431753.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:09] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:11] this keyboard now feels much better... [18:12] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [18:12] NyteOwl, are you there? i got it [18:12] confrey: that is not a Slackware bug.. you probably have an Ati graphics card [18:12] missyjane: yep [18:12] ah is here [18:12] never fear [18:12] :) [18:13] <-- poet [18:13] [18:13] hasnt ATI given the code for its drivers yet? i remember straterra celebrating like a year ago [18:13] i guess it was all for nothing [18:13] dissociative: good to hear. :) [18:13] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [18:13] bbl [18:14] missyjane: don't keep me in suspense - what movie? [18:14] haha [18:14] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:14] sorry dear its not a movie but a sketch, so a part of a series [18:14] in the 90s, called [18:15] "A Bit of Fry and Laurie" [18:15] Nick change: egrgor -> egregor [18:15] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [18:15] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [18:15] ah, ok. Never ehrd of it :) [18:15] thanks a bunch [18:15] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [18:15] np [18:16] alienBOB, no, I have a intel 945 on my eeepc, and in 12.2 all was working fine [18:16] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [18:16] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:17] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:17] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:18] confrey: strange. I also have an eeepc with slackware-current. But I do not use compiz, instead I use the compositing features of KDE4 [18:19] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:19] confrey try running the compiz command with something in front of it: LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 compiz [18:19] And then the rest of your commandline parameters of course [18:19] anyone familiar with the ion3 environment? [18:19] firebird619: 'export VISUAL=nano' or whatever [18:20] alienBOB, which eeepc? I just got a 900 with 4g SSD, considering maybe leaving Xandros on it, since it's mostly going to be a dumb terminal for me. [18:20] livestrong (n=strong@adsl-71-135-0-180.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [18:20] I'd be curious to know WTF is going on with your vi... is it elvis or vim? (ls -l /usr/bin/vi, it's a symlink to one or the other) [18:20] what's the difference between intel_drv.so and i810_drv.so? [18:21] i've heard that intel is newer than i810? [18:22] cebit9981 (n=root@62-47-197-162.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [18:23] im gonna try moblin on my EEE soon. nice interface. but i wanna look at whats there besides that [18:23] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [18:23] Urchlay: if you install elvis, its elvis, otherwise vim takes over with a symlink [18:23] _guitarman_1 (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [18:24] cebit9981 (n=root@62-47-197-162.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Client Quit [18:25] is there a way to reset udev rules? [18:25] i switched from stock kernel to a custom kernel and i think udev is screwing with my touchpad [18:26] The udevil did it [18:27] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [18:27] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:27] sahko: uhm... not really [18:28] amazon10x, which touchpad? [18:28] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.91.152) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:28] BP{k}: not really what? vi ? [18:28] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431753.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:28] TwinReverb: synaptics [18:28] sahko: I have both elvis *and* vim installed. still vi -> elvis .. unless that is not how you meant it? [18:28] confrey (n=dario@94.162.155.112) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:28] yes [18:28] sahko: from what I recall, whichever one gets installed first, gets the symlink. And elvis is in a/, vim is in ap/, so /usr/bin/vi will always be elvis unless you specifically didn't install elvis at all [18:29] Action: BP{k} goes and looks. [18:29] Urchlay: correct. thats what i meant. [18:29] on my boxes, I always do a full install, and after booting I always have to fix the vi symlink [18:30] sahko: ah, OK. I read it backwards then... [18:30] ah, vim checks if /usr/bin/vi exists. if *not* then it makes the symlink. otherwise if it does exist it leaves it alone [18:31] Urchlay: elvis will always take over the symlink regardless if it exists or not [18:31] if I installed the OS more than once every couple years, it'd be worth making a little firstboot.sh script to do all my minor customizations [18:31] i dont think theres too many people to install elvis after vim though [18:31] sahko: agreed. [18:31] only if wanna see whats the fuzz about [18:32] oh, nevermind. i got it working. /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse was passing proto=imps for the psmouse module which was messing it up [18:32] if you're really masochistic you could compile "traditional vi" and make it /usr/bin/vi [18:32] you mean something like nvi? ;) [18:32] no, I meant *actual* vi. It's finally open source [18:32] elvis is the best vi implemention imo. better than nvi [18:33] rob0: eeepc 1000h - 160GB harddisk and 1GB of RAM, is fast enough to run KDE4 with compositing enabled [18:33] but i dont install it. too spartan [18:33] is anyone running xf86-video-intel-2.7.1 in current? [18:33] personally, I leave the elvis symlink in place, just call vim direclty, it's only one extra keystroke. [18:33] nice [18:33] back in the dark days when dinosaurs walked the earth, there was only one vi [18:33] alienBOB: isnt KDE too "big" for the 10'' ? [18:34] We're very impressed with this [very cheap model] eeepc. [18:34] alias vi=vim helps [18:34] BP{k}: my habit comes from my days of admin'ing a mixed network, 4 or 5 different linux distros + solaris and at one point an AIX box [18:34] thats what i got too btw the 1000h [18:34] sahko: 1024x600 takes a little to get used to, but KDE4 leaves you a lot of screen estate [18:34] at any given shell prompt I wanted to be able to type "vi somefile" and get the "best" vi available [18:36] DeeeeP: aliasing vi=vim won't help the crontab or vipw commands though... [18:36] Urchlay, vi /etc/passwd [18:36] ignore vipw :) [18:37] egregor (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [18:38] kitche2 (n=jack@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [18:38] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-183-181.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [18:39] klarina in the middle of the night. i hate it when my neighbours get married [18:40] sahko, go to your window and yell "THAT WONT LAST LONG" , that could silence things down :) [18:40] hmmm I wonder if my processor is actually 64bit [18:41] my bro just put a new kernel on his machine and fixed lilo.conf but forgot to run lilo. i told him to boot up a live disc, chroot, and then run lilo. that'll be good, right? [18:41] DeeeeP: they wont hear me. its really noisy. and the dont freakin stop [18:41] kitche, i think /proc/cpuinfo can help you [18:41] amazon10x, yes [18:42] livestrong (n=strong@adsl-71-135-0-180.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left ##slackware. [18:42] I love the idea of the eee I just find the screens cramped [18:42] could it be possible that an sdb will change to sda and screw something up? [18:42] Deeep that only works if your on Linux but Solaris does say 64 bit True though :) [18:43] im i on #solaris ? :o [18:45] and your telling me something that I already know my question wasn't really a question [18:45] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-159-243.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [18:46] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.34.90) left irc: Connection timed out [18:46] what do you guys think of the kde4 system settings panel vis-a-vis the mac one? [18:47] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [18:51] pprkut: sorry it was the dinner time :D, but in /system.d it has one, and i've tested my bluetooth and is working, i can send but i cant receive :( [18:52] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@79.101.131.113) left irc: "Leaving" [18:54] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. 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[19:24] Plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:24] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-19-129-196.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [19:24] Urchlay: Ok, I've found out. It's elvis. vi is linked to elvis and I now know it isn't vim. [19:24] y0 fluxnuk3r, how's it going? [19:24] hey :) [19:24] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:24] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:25] i need to download the whole KDE dir from current..could i get some help firebird619 [19:25] firebird619: still, not being able to edit the file at all, is weird [19:25] ? [19:25] Urchlay: yeah, very, very, strange. [19:25] could I link vi to vim instead? [19:26] fluxnuk3r: Hmm, you had ran alienBOB's rsynce script initially, correct? The KDE dir should have been along with that? Otherwise, you can use like wget, or maybe even rsync to get the kde dir. [19:27] well all the kde packages install with a corruption warning [19:27] i know..its weird.. [19:27] firebird619: sure you can. That's what I do on every slackware box I have root on [19:27] Urchlay: It's weird. I can add text, but I can't delete text. [19:28] Ok, I'll do that then. reminder please, ln -s target first or target second? [19:28] first [19:29] link name second [19:30] fluxnuk3r: hmm, weird indeed. wget could be used to get just the kde dir, the options to use escape me atm. Otherwise, you could move where rsync put the other packages to like .bak or something, and then run the script again to get a fresh set of packages. [19:30] firebird619: ln works just like cp and mv [19:30] so source first [19:30] lol, ok. Thanks. :D [19:30] like English, not like German [19:30] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:31] haha [19:31] "copy my file to this place", not "copy to this place my file" :) [19:31] I don't know any German. :) [19:31] umm my xorg drivers just freaked out [19:31] hahaha [19:31] me either really, but their word order is a bit yoda-ish [19:31] I to the store went [19:31] Ah, ok. [19:32] however I don't know the words for "store" or "went" or even "to" :) [19:32] I do know how yoda speaks, so I get the picture. :) [19:32] I bet google does. :P [19:33] anyone know how I can use rsync to download the dir: http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-current/slackware/kde/ to kde/ ? [19:34] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:34] With http, use wget(1) [19:34] i need the whole directory [19:34] has a recursive mode [19:34] o.O [19:34] wget will get the entire directory. [19:35] For rsync, find an rsync server [19:35] rsync -va --progress slackware.mirrors.tds.net::slackware/slackware-current/slackware/kde/ kde [19:35] does that use HTTP? [19:35] <_alisonken1churc> uses rsync [19:35] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [19:36] rsync works, yes [19:36] rsync://slackware.mirrors.tds.net [19:36] <_alisonken1churc> rob0: grep rsync /etc/services [19:36] ? [19:37] <_alisonken1churc> you asked if rsync used http [19:37] im using wget. thanks guys :) [19:37] I asked if thrice`s command used http. [19:37] <_alisonken1churc> rsync protocol is not http protocol [19:37] <_alisonken1churc> thrice's showed the cli rsync command [19:37] Anyway, I found our that the same host offers rsync too. [19:37] Urchlay: ok, I linked that now, I can edit crontab just fine now too. Thanks [19:37] *out [19:38] rob0: in my URL, I used the rsync module (::slackware); http would understand that, would it? [19:38] I doubt it. [19:38] wouldn't understand that* [19:38] but I don't know, a long time since RTFM rsync [19:38] ah [19:38] firebird619: beware: root's ~/.vimrc needs 'set backupcopy=yes', unless you're running the latest -current vim package (which includes the same thing in the global vimrc) [19:39] firebird619: otherwise, you'll go to edit root's crontab, and get no error or warning, but the crontab mysteriously won't change, and you'll pull all your hair out trying to figure out WTF happened :) [19:39] I always use explicit rsync:// URLs in my command. [19:40] rsync://rtitanic! [19:40] Urchlay: haha, ok. I am on -current with the latest updates. [19:40] riceberg! [19:41] hmmm, if I could capture a riceberg, wonder how long I could keep eating before I got sick & tired of eating rice... [19:41] lol [19:41] rice is really good with some cinnamon and sugar. [19:45] ezrafree (i=ezra@208.67.159.229) joined ##slackware. [19:45] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [19:45] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: Client Quit [19:45] i've been on the internet but i don't seem to get much answer for this, so i'll ask in here [19:46] when i network two computers without a router over a null cable (crossover ethernet or firewire direct cable) do i just give both of them a static IP address? [19:46] is that all i need to do in order to get it working? [19:46] yes, that should do [19:46] ok [19:47] or set up a dhcp server on one. [19:47] Action: TwinReverb doesn't like setting up servers unless it's required, so in this case, probably won't [19:47] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [19:47] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-122-43-166.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:47] hello [19:47] could use a /30 netmask ... "ip addr add 192.168.9.1/30" on one, "ip addr add 192.168.9.2/30" on the other [19:47] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:48] 30 being 255.255.255.0 ? [19:48] or 255.255.255.255 ? [19:48] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:48] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [19:48] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.24) left irc: [19:48] y0 antler [19:49] sorry, i'm not familiar with the a.b.c.d/x format (i'll go learn it) [19:49] hey firebird619 :) [19:49] 255.255.255.252 [19:49] antler: How's it going? [19:49] hey antler! long time no see :P [19:49] firebird619: excellent. just about to go out for some air :P. how are you? [19:49] people actually use "ip addr add" instead of "ifconfig" on a regular basis? [19:49] 192.168.9.0 would be the network address, 192.168.9.4 the broadcast. [19:49] antler: doing great, thanks. [19:50] hey fluxnuk3r hehe yeah, long time. where u been? [19:50] or you've been on when i haven't been [19:50] Action: firebird619 hands antler some air. :P [19:50] Urchlay, I sure do! I have been unlearning ifconfig(8) / route(8) for several years now. [19:50] Action: antler breathes in deeply [19:50] lol [19:50] :) [19:51] rob0: just when you get it properly unlearned, you'll get called in an emergency to go fix an old solaris server that only has ifconfig :) [19:51] oops ... 192.168.9.0 would be the network address, 192.168.9.3 ** the broadcast. [19:51] firebird619: i'm on fluxbox right now hahaha [19:51] ah I won't completely forget the syntax :) [19:51] antler: seriously? Pic or it isn't true. :P [19:51] ifconfig rob0 down :) [19:52] sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `)' [19:52] sh: -c: line 0: `ifconfig rob0 down :)' [19:52] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: Client Quit [19:52] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:52] 8-P [19:52] yeap, the shell really ought to treat smilies as comments... [19:52] users should treat them as comments 8-P [19:52] sh: ifconfig: command not found [19:53] not on my box [19:53] firebird619: um, how do you print screen in flux again? :P [19:53] /sbin/ifconfig of course [19:53] I stick /sbin:/usr/sbin in my user's PATH [19:53] #:) smiley with a silly hat [19:53] antler: Well, you can use ksnapshot (I think that's what it's called) or I installed and then use scrot [19:53] define this: (8-) [19:53] I cannot be bothered to remember "oh, right, I have to prefix *this* command with /sbin" [19:53] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [19:53] the computer can remember it for me, that's its job [19:54] isnt /sbin for superuser only ? [19:54] antler: There may be other ways, but those are the only two I've ever used. [19:54] DeeeeP: many of the commands in /sbin won't actually work if you don't run them as root [19:55] many or all ? [19:55] some work ? [19:55] /sbin/ifconfig works fine :) [19:55] Some work, at least to provide information. [19:55] well, "ifconfig" will work if all you want to do is list the interfaces and their info [19:55] most of them, I'd guess [19:55] non-root users can run it all day long, but it won't let them change anything [19:55] hi im using the slackbuilds for tor and privoxy and am having some issues getting the setup to work; can someone help me troubleshoot? I'm not getting an error. [19:55] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Success [19:55] i'm going to get my other computer back eventually and when i do, it's time for some distcc via ethernet / firewire direct cable [19:55] im using the instructions here http://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en [19:55] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:55] privoxy did not work out of the box [19:56] seriously, I think it's silly not to have /sbin and /usr/sbin in every user's path [19:56] Urchlay, do you know why it is this way though? [19:56] not having it in the path, doesn't stop them running the commands, so there's no security benefit [19:56] 20:03 <+alienBOB> If dartmouth returns tell him that it looks as if ion will only be present in xwmconfig. The SlackBuild for ion3 apparently does not add an entry to KDM/XDM/GDM/whatever login manager [19:56] (from #slackbuilds) [19:57] Urchlay: i always add them to /etc/profile so i can have them in my path without using the full path or su [19:57] oh ok thanks rob0; actually, if you go into /usr/share/apps/kde/kdm/sessions there is a file you can edit and i do have ion3 in kdm now [19:57] I've used ion3, it doesn't show in kdm. If you start to rl3 and set it as default in xwmconfig, then it works great. [19:57] Action: dartmouth has it in kdm [19:57] firebird619: what was that site you use to up pics? [19:57] TwinReverb: on old versions of Solaris, /sbin really was static binaries... there was a /sbin/sh, and a few others (maybe /sbin/ls, /sbin/cp). You wouldn't want /sbin in the path first (before /bin and /usr/bin), on a system like that [19:58] antler: imagebin.org [19:58] Urchlay, but now it basically becomes /sbin and /usr/sbin [19:58] sorry (enter key) [19:58] firebird619: no, it was another one you mentioned a while back [19:58] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [19:58] are basically places for programs traditionally ran by root or a priveleged user [19:58] yeah. The "s" has lost its original meaning (static) [19:58] and has come to mean "superuser" [19:58] antler: Well, there's tinypic.com and imgur.com as well. [19:58] granted you can still run them but most if not all require root [19:58] anyone at all familiar with privoxy and tor slackbuild setups? [19:58] they may give you info but they can't change it unless you have the priveleges [19:58] sure [19:59] and that's how it should be [19:59] firebird619: http://i44.tinypic.com/2n9w4eh.png [19:59] hahaha boring [19:59] wow, you actually are on fluxbox. nice. :) [20:00] Action: firebird619 applauds antler [20:00] at least two kde apps running there amarok and kontact hahah [20:00] might as well just switch back to kde [20:00] kontact. AHHHHHH [20:01] Kontact hasn't played nice here. I've got my mail set up with imap now, etc. and kontact doesn't even see the mail. :P [20:01] I'm using Claws now. :D [20:01] firebird619: it seems to be okay here. and yeah flux is fast [20:01] indeed it is. :) [20:01] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:01] mines a bit more interesting looking than yours. :P You gotta customize it man. :D [20:02] antler, huh? [20:02] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:02] just pick a desktop and use it [20:02] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: No route to host [20:02] whoa, neat, poking around in /sbin I found /sbin/ss, never heard of it, looks immensely useful though [20:02] what does it do? [20:02] "ss is used to dump socket statistics." [20:03] Oh, cool. [20:03] sort of a fancy netstat replacement [20:03] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [20:03] (I suppose lsof can do everything ss does though) [20:03] firebird619: yeah mine's boring haha [20:03] Urchlay, it cleanses your system of unwanted race conditions [20:03] Hey edman007, how's it going? [20:03] good :) [20:04] antler: at least get a wallpaper on there. :P [20:04] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:04] edman007: actually in WW2, German typewriters had their own separate key for the SS logo, didn't they? (I bet Unicode doesn't have that character though) [20:05] Unicode doesn't even have the weird little glyph that means "the artist formerly known as Prince" [20:05] lol [20:05] rob0: http://www.gnodes.org/images/ion-kdm.png [20:05] antler, boring? thats nothing, in fact its exciting [20:05] Action: edman007 takes screenshot [20:06] beatzz (n=beatzz@97-115-181-122.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:06] wasup G's [20:06] beatzz (n=beatzz@97-115-181-122.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:06] Action: dartmouth curses privoxy (why isn't this working?) [20:06] dartmouth: because it's cursed? (in which case, you're only making it worse by cursing it again...) [20:06] haha [20:07] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [20:07] really though, it's supposed to work out of thebox [20:07] and it does not [20:07] and the docs suck [20:07] edman007: i see no good reason to dress up flux [20:07] antler, mine is uploading! [20:08] edman007: ah [20:08] antler: no good reason? Why? :P [20:08] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-108-23.ip38.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "leaving" [20:09] gyah [20:09] firebird619: i wanted to see how good it was as is :P [20:09] im not getting an error :/ [20:09] antler, http://imagebin.org/53183 [20:09] as you can see i have a desktop and the slit is hidden! [20:09] its the bottom 1px [20:10] edman007: hahahah that hurts my eyes [20:10] edman007: that's a really nice wallpaper. [20:10] antler, well i always have stuff maximized, so i never really see it [20:10] but it matches my keyboard/mouse [20:10] ah hahah [20:10] "Tor proxy test FAILED! Check your proxy and Privoxy settings." [20:10] edman007: you're on flux as well? [20:10] yea [20:10] the wallpaper matches your keyboard and mouse? [20:11] Action: dartmouth verifies that both tor and privoxy are running, and they are [20:11] antler, same theme as you too, or close anyways [20:11] Action: dartmouth verifies in vidalia that the network is connected [20:11] firebird619, my keyboard/mouse are both black with blue lights [20:11] firebird619: yeah, also his tie. when he's on the computer, he wears only his blue and dark blue tie [20:11] edman007: nice. [20:11] antler: haha [20:11] lol [20:11] which keyboard do you have? [20:12] saitek [20:12] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:12] the only one that a real human can use [20:12] M$ then? :P [20:12] this is the eclipse (the first one) [20:12] firebird619, are they MS owned? [20:13] Oh, nice. I almost got one of them late last year, then when I decided to get one, they were out of stock. It was on newegg. [20:13] not that I know of, no. [20:13] no, wiki says owned by mad catz [20:13] edman007: that's a nice kb [20:13] Oh, mad catz, nice. [20:13] antler, yea it is [20:13] The one I almost got was the red lighted one. Would have been $21.99 [20:14] and my mouse is a razer diamondback [20:14] dood, you gots some serious bling happening [20:14] no doubt. [20:14] yea... [20:15] Mr. Rockefeller. [20:15] :P [20:15] lol [20:15] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@201.164.160.88) joined ##slackware. [20:15] I watch ebay for an eclipse for real cheap, but haven't seen a cheap one yet. :P [20:16] I should have gotten that newegg one, but I have so many keyboards, it's not that I need one at all, it's more a want. [20:17] firebird619: heh i only recently found out that you can click around in mc [20:17] schpenke_ (n=schpenke@cpe-66-25-50-212.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:17] You just found that out recently. :P Oh man. [20:17] yup, mc is mouse aware, even in the console if you have gpm running [20:17] firebird619, check dell, sometimes it pops up on their site real cheap, i saw it in the small business store for a very low price before ($10 below newegg( [20:18] antler, well i'm not mouse aware [20:18] edman007: nice, I'll keep that in mind. thanks. [20:19] http://pastebin.com/f70c3ae8d [20:19] can anyone tell me why this failed to build? [20:20] well what's similar to kontact that works well in flux? you mentioned 'claws', firebird619 ? [20:20] groo (n=groo@201-92-215-115.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:20] nb (n=nb@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.nb) left ##slackware. [20:20] groo (n=groo@201-92-215-115.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [20:20] antler: yeah, I really like claws. [20:20] antler: could always use mutt or alpine. :P [20:20] icarus: # [20:20] content_handler_libxml.cpp:48: error: 'memset' was not declared in this scope [20:21] Urchlay: how can i fix this, so that it will build? [20:21] means content_handler_libxml.cpp needs a #include [20:21] icarus, "content_handler_libxml.cpp:48: error: 'memset' was not declared in this scope" <- looks like just bad code, incompatible with a current system [20:21] hmmm [20:21] firebird619: oh nice, no deps [20:21] (probably gcc 4.3.x :) [20:21] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [20:21] edit the file, stick #include in there near there top, should be file [20:21] fine [20:21] libopenplugin? never heard of that [20:23] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:23] schpenke (n=schpenke@cpe-66-25-50-212.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:23] what is that app icarus ? [20:23] dont make me google it [20:23] NukeDukem: its a dependency named "openlibraries" for another application named "jahshaka" [20:24] jahshaka is an audio/video program [20:24] I really wish gcc and g++ had a --allow-crappy-old-code switch [20:24] hmm, ok [20:24] Urchlay, i doubt it, if that is a "stable" release there is no way it can't find memset, cstring is included, its probably wrapped in an ifdef that got turned off and its hitting an untested path due to the newer software [20:24] yeah, someone else told me that the reason it was failing was because of gcc4 [20:24] --i-know-its-wrong-compile-it-anyway-damn-you [20:24] i would just try the latest svn (or whatever) [20:24] Urchlay: pretty much [20:25] edman007: eh, OK, I didn't actually bother to look at the cpp source, I just gave him the first thing I'd have tried [20:25] firebird619: building claws-mail now [20:25] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@201.164.160.88) left irc: "Saliendo" [20:26] anyway I gotta get outta here... later folks [20:26] Urchlay, yea, well i have tried your way enough, usually when you do that you just hit a new error, someone probably already did thet required fix and you just need to find the patch [20:26] bye [20:26] Urchlay: thanks for the help [20:26] send me beer [20:26] im looking for the .cpp file [20:26] antler: awesome. Might I also recommend the Mail Archiver claws plugin. :) [20:26] Urchlay: later. [20:27] firebird619: k [20:27] antler: and do you receive and view html mail at all? [20:28] firebird619: oh no.... i can see this getting better and better. yeah, i do. why? [20:30] heh i'll just stick to kontact because of laziness [20:30] antler: because, claws doesn't display html e-mail with either the dillo plugin or the gtkhtml2viewer plugins. Both available in the claws-mail-extra-plugins package from SBo. Note hat gtkhtml2viewer is not installed by default from that, you need to enable it in the slackbuild. [20:30] Oh you lazy friggen......... :P [20:31] just curious, was your laziness inherited, or did you develop that on your own? [20:32] Why the heck do I get trash can full messages. ARGH [20:32] No, don't say because it's full. :P [20:32] oh hai, i iz in your client, deletign yur musssagehs [20:32] Action: agentc0re just woke up from a slumber [20:32] firebird619: i actually developed the laziness from using slackware [20:32] does alpine just send email? or can it retrieve email too? [20:33] man, skydiving steals all your energy the next day. It's weird since you're only really falling. [20:33] sure, it's a full imap client [20:34] firebird619: when i first started using slackware (12.0 - 12.1), i was all like "yeah, let's compile and customize and do everything by hand" [20:34] agentc0re: adrenaline exhaustion maybe [20:35] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:35] BP{k}: Ah, so it was you all along. :P [20:35] antler: now you're like "dude, you think you could compile this for me?" :P [20:35] well freefall is easy but it's a lot of arching.. so you can't tell it up there but i think that takes some of it out of ya. I think the real kicker is when the chute opens and you're flying down. [20:36] chopp: lol [20:36] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-64-44.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:36] Nick change: thetrooper -> amauryjr [20:36] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "Schleep" [20:36] chopp: hahaha can you say, "nail on head"? [20:36] All that's in my trash is 4 text files. :( what the heck. [20:36] :P [20:37] NukeDukem: Alpine supports IMAP, POP, SMTP and LDAP protocol natively. [20:37] firebird619: Oh so i would have "graduated" student status but they increased the student jumps by 1. Gah.. i felt like i was held back a grade because i did a lot of the stuff they had me do my last two jumps. [20:37] coolbeans! [20:37] So i only have one more jump, and it's quite a bit cheaper thank god, before i graduate student status. [20:38] BP{k}: I tried alpine the other day, it's quite nice. I have to get it setup with my imap server now, otherwise, I'm using claws, kontact has sort of left a bad taste, it doesn't even see my e-mails in the imap server (dovecot). :P [20:38] agentc0re: Oh that sucks that they changed the # of jumps, at least it's not more than 1. [20:39] agentc0re: cool... you went jumping [20:39] Action: firebird619 puts antler in a parachute and sends him up in an airplane. Have fun!. :D [20:40] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:40] it's quite illogical to jump out of an airplane for fun, but there's a certain appeal to it [20:40] firebird619: /s/k/c ;) [20:40] :D [20:41] The trash has reached its maximum size! Cleanup the trash manually. [20:41] :( [20:41] chopp: argh, forgot. sorry. :P [20:41] haha [20:41] edman007: your suggestion worked well [20:41] apparently theres some other bad code too though [20:41] http://pastebin.com/f35d41beb [20:41] antler: I figured if I didn't toss ya into the plane, you would never do it yourself :P [20:41] im hung up on this now [20:41] any other easy fixes i can add that you can see? [20:41] For Sale: Parachute. Never opened. Only used once. Slightly stained. [20:42] lol [20:42] Hey rworkman [20:42] antler: Not today, i went yesterday. [20:42] icarus, my suggestion was to try the latest svn, because adding the include, which Urchlay suggested, would result in just more errors, which you can see now [20:42] I jumped twice. [20:42] firebird619: i'm not called amoeba man for nothing :P [20:42] lol [20:43] my last 5 jumps have been $165 a jump, my last "graduation" jump is $80 but there after is $23 to jump and $20 for gear rental. I can take $5 off if i repack myself, which i will be doing for sure until i get my own gear. [20:43] antler: you see the for sale ad there. If you'd have only opened the parachute. :P [20:44] firebird619: ola :) [20:44] heret|c (n=heretic@c-68-32-70-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:45] firebird619: hahaha [20:46] antler: see what your laziness got you, a crash landing. [20:46] Here lies antler, bloodied, broken, and bruised. What a shame. His laziness finally cost him. [20:46] lol [20:47] reminds me of that song ' blood on the risers' ;) [20:47] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [20:48] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [20:48] or, "amoeba man, as he is known to his friends, tried to pull open his parachute. due to the fact that he was just too damn slow, his parachute opened only after he landed on the pavement." [20:48] hello so.. ive been reading wiki about kernels [20:49] antler: haha [20:49] lol @ firebird619 [20:49] linus is the man, the fact he can see farther than some professor who insisted that linux would be outdated and that everyone would be running mips [20:49] :| i cant believe only 30-50 years ago kernels changed this much [20:50] talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanenbaum%E2%80%93Torvalds_debate [20:52] the wrong way of Tanembaum is that neither Minix or Amoeba has paging support. [20:52] microkernel without paging support != monolithic kernel with paging support [20:52] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [20:53] when i read further down, the professor says his goal wasnt to write good os but to show his students that you can write os but im not sure why he started with the title "Linux is obsolete", it seems more of an attack than anything else [20:53] err i should say, he later states his goal is to produce outstanding students [20:53] :| [20:53] lol, thats funny. Maybe he secretly works for m$ [20:54] i guess in his mind outstanding means you don't like Linux [20:54] Tanembaum can be the damn professor attacking them [20:54] lol [20:54] the professor is definitely a smart man, no doubt [20:54] but it could also be a joke just to be trolling for responses [20:54] hes a bad troll then [20:54] lol itsort of hurt his career [20:54] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [20:55] good troll "omg, LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE" = you get a job as a result, you get to be in movies and tv shows [20:55] bad troll "linux sucks! its obsolete!" = now ppl call you sore loser, you are still a professor, and you get bad publicity [20:55] lol :x [20:56] help40-alexiev (n=help40@h81-88-124-14.rev.domonet.ru) joined ##slackware. [20:57] my mythtv box fried, i think the dust killed it :( [20:57] Dear Tanembaum, in Soviet Russia, you obsolete Minix and Amoeba [20:57] well the frontend plugged into the tv [20:57] the funny thing about attention trolls is that usually they get their attention even if it is negative [20:57] because people are compelled to comment [20:58] the truth does not need defending [20:58] and how do you feel about that negative attention you get? [20:58] communicator (n=abc@89.155.7.246) joined ##slackware. [20:58] i don't like it. but i guess attention trolls like it. [20:58] TwinReverb, thats because being paid attention to feels great :/ maybe its just a girl/feminine thing [20:59] um no [20:59] but im not going to lie, i LOVE attenetion like men love beer and car [20:59] attention [20:59] no what? [20:59] i said negative attention [20:59] in some respect, even negative attention is good [20:59] do you like people writing you hateful, even threatening emails? [20:59] sure [20:59] communicator (n=abc@89.155.7.246) left ##slackware. [20:59] :) im doing something right [20:59] you're an attention troll them 8-P [20:59] lol ok :) [21:00] missyjane: why you little whore! [21:00] missyjane: oh, you're right [21:00] hahaha [21:00] haha [21:00] i already get a lot of ppl on freenode to hate me, it doesnt matter [21:00] missyjane: I KNOW women love attention. [21:00] they like loving attention [21:00] yep. universal truth [21:00] lol [21:00] nothing wrong with wanting attention [21:00] your dog wants attention [21:00] its so cute when it does :D [21:00] missyjane: it depends. [21:00] people who like negative attention probably have a mental problem they need to address 8-P [21:00] missyjane: one can be obsessive about it [21:01] TwinReverb, meh, depends, the professor might just be bitter, it happens; thumbs lol thats the point, the less attention you give, the more obsessive someone might get about it [21:01] TwinReverb: something tells me that you're sexually frustrated. have you tried paying for the favours of a local agashi? [21:01] thats why ppl dont ignore troll [21:02] missyjane: I was referring to a non-troll, real life situation, actually [21:02] antler, stop projecting your problems onto me 8-P [21:02] hahah [21:02] oh] [21:05] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:05] missyjane: i bet if you shaved and videotaped it, you'd get a lot of attention in here. (and not your legs or pits) [21:05] haha [21:06] LOL [21:06] hahahahahahahaha [21:06] sorry >.> thats just hilarious, you want me to shave? what am i going to shave? the only thing would be to shave my head [21:06] and my eyebrow and eyelid [21:06] oh, your beaver is already bald? [21:07] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*mernil*@*.priv.bahnhof.se expired. [21:07] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*mernil*@*.priv.bahnhof.se' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:07] yes [21:07] na-hice. [21:07] lol [21:07] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@201.164.160.88) joined ##slackware. [21:07] missyjane, take a bath in nair, i think its hot [21:07] hahah [21:07] nasty [21:07] lol [21:08] ew talk about pain [21:08] missyjane, pain lets you know you are alive [21:08] lol [21:08] how about this [21:08] i don't need anyone to tell me i'm alive lol [21:08] ill bath in nair if you let my left hand hold a scissor while my other hold your testicle? :D [21:08] Action: edman007 shoots TwinReverb [21:09] edman007, i petted a pony today [21:09] missyjane: TMI [21:09] ill even put your testicle in my mouth, just let me use the scissors [21:09] Action: missyjane runs with scissors [21:09] Hey nix_chix0r, how's it going? [21:09] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:09] Action: TwinReverb shoots edman007 back [21:09] nix_chix0r, and did you steal it? i need my pony! [21:09] wow. edman's left nut in missyjane 's mouth [21:09] WITH A SCISSORS YOU FOOL [21:09] Action: firebird619 scolds missyjane. Don't be running with a scissors. [21:09] antler: lol. [21:10] eichi (n=eichi@p5B2045E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:10] Action: TwinReverb scolds missyjane "don't be putting those in your mouth, you don't know where they've been" [21:10] firebird619, went to a baby shower today and she lives out on a ranch so oliver got to pet the horses and ponies , i went horseback riding with a semi aged mustang [21:10] missyjane, ok, i'll go down to the butcher right now and buy some goat nuts [21:10] his eyes were all bugged out looking at a massive horse it was adorable [21:10] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:10] nix_chix0r: cool. Sounds like you had a good time. [21:11] yeah just a hot one [21:11] nix_chix0r, you think the horse was sexy eh? [21:11] ughh [21:11] hahah [21:11] no it was 90 degrees... [21:11] edman007 has a nasty mind [21:11] that tends to piss a baby off [21:11] so had it been cooler out... [21:11] anything we girls say can be twisted so its unfair [21:11] nix_chix0r: It was really hot here again, but the humidity was really low, so it wasn't bad. [21:12] so i will say something straight up [21:12] like, i will freaking chop your penis off, or.. how about, i will kick your balls very very hard [21:12] try and twist that! :D [21:12] missyjane: Well we do have two brains to come up with all the twisted shit us men say to you women :P [21:12] It's actually thanks to the second lower brain we do so :P [21:12] doesn't bug me i'm used to it [21:12] One of those necessary evils. [21:13] missyjane: get back on your blanket! [21:13] dunno how some women get used to it but i cant [21:13] i can get just as vulgar when i choose to be [21:13] missyjane: you want to borrow a gag? (you know, the one marcellus wore while z was behind him) [21:13] i choose not to, im innocent [21:13] any idiot can be vulgar [21:13] amauryjr (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [21:13] pure women wont last in ##slackware [21:13] LOL, i always wondered what was in the suitcase [21:13] missyjane, bs, i saw you in that farm! [21:14] psh im living proof nix_chix0r [21:14] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [21:14] but you're a whiner [21:14] lol [21:14] i dont care [21:14] girl fight!! :P [21:14] agentc0re, who let the cats out? who who who [21:14] i love getting my voice out, but i almost always stop when ppl tell me "ok we understand your issue" [21:14] see? unless you're gay *cough* TwinReverb *cough* sex always livens things up [21:15] ok we understand you're a feminazi [21:15] antler: LOL!!!! [21:15] agentc0re: I'll get the pool, you get all the jello. :P [21:15] ;) thank you nix_chix0r [21:15] HEIL MISSYJANE! [21:15] are you a vegan as well? and a lesbian? some? 1/4 [21:15] firebird619: Sweet! Jello pool fight!! [21:15] chic fight! [21:15] GIRLSTEICH [21:16] lets make jello with tequila! :) [21:16] any girl not feminine enough = DEATH CAMP, all women will be gassed with the smell of testo until they cant stand it and come out a feminazi :D [21:16] i think i found a crack [21:16] Oh, nice. drunk jello pool fight [21:16] death camp doesnt sound right hm [21:16] naw [21:16] firebird619: got a problem...wget started to recursively download the whole server xD [21:16] good luck with that [21:16] fluxnuk3r: haha, ouch. [21:17] damncome to the satan camp [21:17] i'm treated equal in my marriage [21:17] antler, lack of perversion does not make one gay [21:17] i don't belong in a kitchen foo [21:17] i like to cook [21:17] nix_chix0r: that's what he wants you to think [21:17] nah he cooks bomb ass steaks [21:17] fluxnuk3r: i do that on purpose sometimes, i make copies of entire websites on my PC sometimes [21:17] the kitchen was invented by ... [21:17] makes good food [21:17] doesn't matter [21:17] my gf loves to cook too [21:18] hey Pig_Pen :) [21:18] who invented the kitchen room? [21:18] hi fluxnuk3r [21:18] it wasnt my intention this time [21:18] lol [21:18] for the women out there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSPcK2_TD5A [21:18] :D [21:18] hahaha [21:18] did you acciedently use the -m switch with wget? it will do that everytime [21:18] just maybe women were the ones who really created enzyte [21:18] and a penis pump [21:19] TwinReverb: everyone has sex, but not every man truly is a pervert [21:19] antler: pfft.. whatever :P [21:19] antler, my point exactly [21:19] fluxnuk3r: what was the exact wget command you used? [21:19] agentc0re: hahaha [21:19] y0 dtanner, how's it going? [21:19] hey firebird619 [21:19] well not everyone has sex however. i mean, do you know everyone? 8-) [21:19] agentc0re: whatever? TwinReverb, righteous boy, is living proof [21:19] antler: Aren't you the one that figured out how to get into my porn server? ;) [21:19] dtanner: wget -r http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-current/slackware/kde/ [21:20] chopp: have you seen that video before? [21:20] hahaha hell you gave me access! [21:20] no one is righteous [21:20] agentc0re: yes I have actually [21:20] antler: Thats what you say!! I was drunk, you probably gave me a rufie over the interwebs somehow with your magic powers... :P [21:20] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:20] chopp: Haha, my favorite part is "Women are good for 3 things" [21:21] agentc0re: He dcc'd it to ya, it's your fault you opened the file. :P [21:21] thats what this whole conversation reminds me of. [21:21] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:21] firebird619: DOH! [21:21] -r means recursive [21:21] fluxnuk3r: ^ [21:21] agentc0re: You should protect yourself better next time. :P [21:22] firebird619: okay, that did NOT sound good. [21:22] antler: No it didn't. [21:22] lol [21:22] rofl SHOW ME YOUR GENITALS! [21:22] hahahaha [21:22] whoops [21:22] firebird619: Ya, i'll be the one wearing the condom next time!!! [21:22] :P [21:22] music on shuffle and you get country [21:22] hahah [21:22] where is my banjo [21:22] one of those hit enter before you think moments. [21:22] firebird619: you said to protect myself... [21:22] dtanner: what should i use then? [21:23] he copied all the music from our shared server at work and one of the ladies listens to country [21:23] i love that song!! SHOW ME YOUR GENITALS [21:23] im tellin everyone i know [21:23] dtanner: I was thinking -r was for the given directory [21:23] missyjane: HAHA, you should listen to the rest of his stuff. It's great. [21:23] the song is "dear penis" [21:23] lol [21:23] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:23] missyjane: Ordinary average guy is great. Pedophile glasses is funny too. [21:24] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@201.164.160.88) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:24] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [21:25] fluxnuk3r: that command you pasted should retrieve everything in the kde/ directory. is that what you want? including subdirectories? [21:25] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@201.164.160.88) joined ##slackware. [21:25] haha this guy ROCK [21:25] yes, just KDE. but i ended up with all the versions of slackware... [21:25] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:25] So i need 3 types of different beers to make. Anyone want to make suggestions? [21:25] rsync is better :) [21:25] yeah rsync would be a smarter idea imho [21:25] agentc0re: which was the one in which he rapped? [21:25] oatmeal stout and an IPA for sure [21:25] thrice`: ++ [21:25] I take that back, 2. I am going to definitely make a IPA. [21:26] cmair (n=cmair@host136-41-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:26] thrice`: I just made a stout but i can focus more on the oatmeal part for sure. that's a good idea. [21:26] hahahahahahahha "i mean i would punch your nuts" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC03hmS1Brk [21:26] agentc0re: IPA's are my fav, though :) [21:26] missyjane: testicular fixation. have those words ever been applied to you? [21:27] no what does that mean? [21:27] thrice`: I probably battle between good Stouts and IPA's. Maybe i should make a IPA Stout? [21:27] "oh thats unappropriate.." [21:27] agentc0re: save the stouts for winter time [21:27] missyjane: hahaha [21:28] :> [21:28] thrice`: can I pm? [21:28] "I am dangers!!" "Like a fire in a nursing home!" [21:28] why, might I ask ? [21:29] rsync -va --progress slackware.mirrors.tds.net::slackware/slackware-current/slackware/kde/ kde [21:30] lftp ftw! [21:30] that's a good rsync alternative to grab the kde/ DIR from -current [21:30] Oatmean Stout, IPA... any others? [21:30] lftp -c "open http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-current/slackware/; mirror kde/" [21:30] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [21:31] thrice`: thats why. ty :) [21:31] sure :) [21:32] ty for the effort as well BP{k} :) [21:33] he is a genius [21:33] any man that has that kind of humor is a genius [21:34] missyjane: Then you'd probably love this guy too! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPdFrW076R0 This is my favorite comedian. [21:34] Nick change: thetrooper -> orgasmo_tantrico [21:36] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-215-49.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [21:36] Nick change: orgasmo_tantrico -> caoaloprado [21:37] i like george carlin [21:37] Hey frullet. How's it going? [21:37] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:38] firebird619: doing well yourself [21:38] doing great, thank you. :) [21:38] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [21:40] nah [21:40] his humor sucks lol [21:41] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: "Molon Labe" [21:43] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:43] professor_ (n=professo@cpc1-bour5-2-0-cust293.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:44] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:46] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:47] it went quiet [21:47] because you said his humor sucks. [21:48] lol :'( [21:48] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:48] im sorry [21:48] Action: missyjane begs on knee for slackware forgiveness [21:49] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-215-49.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:49] link to that video antler referred to earlier, and you're forgiven [21:50] chopp: Nah, that's too easy. :) [21:51] "Damn Thats An Ugly Ass Baby" haha [21:51] lol [21:51] missyjane, post a video of you saying you're sorry [21:51] fluxnuk3r: although the rsync and lftp commands suggested are prolly the best bet... i knew there was a way to get wgt to only grab certain file extensions. it would have been as so "wget -r -np -nd --accept=txz http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-current/slackware/kde/" [21:52] Nick change: caoaloprado -> amaury_jr [21:52] edman007, you realize that i was in here days ago asking ppl to help me with cameras right? :| [21:52] dtanner: thx [21:52] cause i borked it [21:52] fluxnuk3r: also that would have not created parent directories and would have downloaded only the .txz files from the server into your $CWD. [21:52] excuses [21:52] hiptobecubic (n=john@pool-173-65-85-6.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] tonight, i install slackware64 [21:53] its not :| if i cant get the camera working, youre not getting naything lol [21:54] edman007: no, she has to write a letter of apology to all 285 users in ##slackware right now. :) [21:54] lol :(... [21:54] id rather do the camera one [21:54] firebird619, and make a video of her reading it [21:54] HAND WRITTEN. not typed up on the computer. [21:54] >:( hell no [21:54] edman007: yes, agreed. [21:54] Action: edman007 shows missyjane the door [21:55] :(... [21:55] don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya. :D [21:55] ok fine [21:55] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [21:55] and don't come back till you get that cam workin :P [21:55] hahaha [21:55] \o/ [21:55] i never seen a pic of missyjane (is she perdy?) [21:55] Pig_Pen, do you like men? [21:55] lol @ Pig_Pen [21:55] lol [21:55] that was bound to come up. [21:55] missyjane not a chic? [21:55] Pig_Pen: not bad for twelve [21:56] for all we know, should might make a blind man go "OH MY......" [21:56] s/should/she/ [21:56] 99% sure "she" is a man, thats why i asked for a video ;) they are too hard to fake [21:56] ah [21:56] damn~ [21:56] Well, she's gone, for now anyway. [21:56] firebird619: Are you trying to say that her face is covered with so many pimples you could read braille on her face? [21:57] hahahaha [21:57] lol [21:57] eww [21:57] you could say that I guess. [21:57] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [21:57] :( [21:57] with a nick like missyjane i figured it was a she [21:57] and she's back. [21:57] Has anyone tried any of the new filesystems flying around in the kernel? [21:57] not I [21:57] when i see missyjane i think of marijuana.. [21:57] missyjane: who are you!? [21:58] agentc0re, ++ [21:58] gar0t0 (n=casa@189-69-80-40.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:58] do you guys relaly hate me? :( [21:58] Ah, it's gar0t0 [21:58] :) [21:58] Action: firebird619 runs [21:58] i dont hate anyone [21:58] missyjane: they were debating your gender. [21:58] nheco (n=nheco@189-10-230-206.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:58] missyjane: I hate you sorry! :D [21:58] lol [21:58] missyjane: There is no hate. [21:58] oh [21:58] its ok, think im a guy/man/boy/fbi if you want [21:58] seriously! [21:58] missyjane: is a joke [21:58] :D [21:59] missyjane, post three pics of you, one with your right hand on your forehead, one holding up 6 fingers, and one with both hands above your head [21:59] if you can do that, then i will believe you [21:59] firebird619: say to her/him "gar0t0 dont have a good englis" [21:59] you dont have to edman [21:59] :| [21:59] shit why don't you ask her to try and touch her elbows behind her back edman007? [21:59] missyjane: what is edman ? [21:59] morb (n=morb@93-138-90-163.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:00] gar0t0: edman007 [22:00] gar0t0, ye ado you have edman on ignore or something? [22:00] agentc0re: hmm I personally can admire that in a woman ;) especially when aided with some "toolage" >;-) [22:00] post three picks, one when you were in grade/grammar school, one when you were in high school and one after you became an adult [22:00] that would be hard to fake [22:00] i dropped hs [22:00] agentc0re, i'm just trying to think up of something unique, thus requiring new pics that can't be scraped from the net [22:00] BP{k}: LOL.. It's always a good question to ask a unsuspecting chick :D [22:01] then make #2 when you were a teenager [22:01] agentc0re: yeah, usually should be accompanied by holding 50feet of hemp rope ;) [22:01] missyjane: no, I dont have ignore list here [22:01] oh [22:01] Action: edman007 slaps gar0t0 [22:01] did that make it through? [22:01] was what I understood? [22:01] lol [22:02] i'll take that as a no :( [22:02] :( [22:02] LMAO! [22:02] edman007: dont hate me [22:02] \o/ [22:02] dang, I heard that slap way over here. [22:02] you can hear me! [22:02] Can you hear me now? :P [22:02] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [22:03] can you hear me now? [22:03] good ;) [22:03] hm.. [22:03] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:03] Action: edman007 does not want to be the guy at the other end, just sit on a phone all day and say yes [22:03] love is in the air/ [22:04] 'hear me please" [22:04] everywhere you look around. [22:04] "no no, today no" [22:04] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq1TgTtsyAk [22:04] "ohhhhhh please hear me" [22:04] edman007: Would you rather be the person that calls everyone to conduct a survey? :P [22:04] firebird619, yes [22:05] at least people change it up, and you talk to more than one person [22:05] true [22:05] what are you talking about anyway? [22:05] gar0t0, youtube link i posted, watch it [22:06] What would be the preferred way to install slackware onto a blank partition? I should be able to do it without reboot using chroot or something no? [22:08] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.9.174) joined ##slackware. [22:08] well thats not the preferred method, but it can be done [22:09] hahaha [22:09] good video [22:09] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@201.164.160.88) left irc: Success [22:09] :) [22:09] brb [22:14] im feeling very lazy now, so brb [22:14] edman007, well how could one do it, and then perhaps i'll just go do the preferred method anyway. I'd like to know how though [22:16] edman007, installpkg --root /otherroot *.txz? [22:17] slackpkg can't do other roots, can it? [22:18] if anyone want to help me with the cameras tho, np, just pm, cause i asked before, so dont say i didnt ask [22:18] later [22:18] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [22:19] http://modesto.injuryboard.com/medical-malpractice/hiv-scare-in-va-hospitals-leaves-veterans-fearful.aspx?googleid=260758 firebird619 [22:21] hiptobecubic, yea, i've done it before like that, and then when your done chroot to the otherroot and do pkgtool and run the install scripts in it [22:21] alpha213 (n=alpha@cpe-72-183-217-40.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:22] nix_chix0r, your killing people with hiv? [22:23] edman007, so i need to pre-download at least what.... /a ? [22:23] no [22:23] i dont work for the VA [22:23] for stopping them sending money to veterans [22:23] hiptobecubic, just do a full install [22:23] it's like yeah you served your contry we'll give you aids [22:24] but you need a/ and the kernel to make it boot...but it won't be too useful [22:25] edman007, yes yes. What i'm trying to do is get it far enough along to chroot and use slackpkg to go the rest of the way [22:25] minus kde of course :) [22:25] govt wanted to cut the senior funds [22:26] oh, yea, that should be fine, but i usually just do `installpkg --root something /path/to/slack/slackware/*/*.t{x,g}z` [22:26] it's doing HIV fears and HIV killings to veterans in Hospitals [22:26] then you just have a full install [22:26] edman007, yeah, but i don't have the repo mirrored [22:26] i do... [22:26] edman007, i don't :) [22:28] alpha213 (n=alpha@cpe-72-183-217-40.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [22:29] well, did Firefox 3.5 was released? [22:31] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[22:44] you need to enable a gtk theme, of course [22:44] thrice`: oh [22:45] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: "leaving" [22:45] oh nice... a fluxbox gtk wiki page :) [22:47] I'm trying to use chroot and specify a shell but it keeps saying file not found. I'm using $(chroot /newroot /newroot/bin32/bash) just running $(/newroot/bin32/bash) works fine [22:47] and what a treat... gtk-chtheme is available at sbo [22:48] :) [22:48] Action: hiptobecubic loves his gtk theme and window decorations [22:48] you probably need /bin/bash from the host system [22:48] $( chroot /newroot /bin/bash ) or so [22:48] yep [22:49] i tried that too [22:49] and i tried copying THAT executable into the new root as well [22:49] "copying?" [22:50] chroot /media/slack64/ /bin/bash [22:50] chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory [22:50] hiptobecubic: uhm. [22:50] but before you mentioned bin32 [22:51] but /bin/bash is in both the host and guest AND i copied the 32 bit /bin/bash into the new root as /bin32/bash and then when that didn't work moved the 64binaries to /bin64 and changed /bin32 to just /bin and tried /bin/bash again (which now points at a 32 bit binary) still nothing [22:51] Action: BP{k} get scared and resorts to drinking more beer. [22:51] "copying" a binary won't work [22:52] thrice`, no? [22:52] why can i execute it then? [22:52] egregor (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.2.6"). [22:52] chroot can't, apparently, but copying binaries around and running them seems to work fine otherwise [22:53] I must admit to being a little lost. /bin/bash depends on a few system libraries, naturally [22:53] antler_ (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [22:54] hiptobecubic: out of sheer curiosity, why do you have a bin{32,64}. What is the use of that? [22:55] BP{k}, i'm running a 32 bit kernel and trying to remotely install 64bit slack. i made a bin32/64 so i wouldn't get confused about which is which. although thrice` brings up an interesting point :) [22:56] I don't think glibc will like what you are doing [22:57] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:58] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.21) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:58] looks like the synaptics driver on linux doesn't support two finger scroll for my super-new touchpad [22:58] there's a synaptics spec sheet online though so i'll see if i can patch it [22:58] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. 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