[00:02] if I install a program on my 64 system with 32 could I cause a problem? [00:07] hopefully,it proves to be more stable or ... http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/4/45/Broken.chair.jpg lol...:( [00:08] roflmao :) [00:08] MLanden: It seems quite stable, and faster, it includes their TraceMonkey JS engine now too, and also Personas are built-in. [00:08] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [00:08] foobarz (i=1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: "Leaving" [00:09] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [00:09] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Client Quit [00:09] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-106-132.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [00:10] firefox, now with full fledged MPD ;) [00:10] Multiple Persona Disorder? [00:10] fire|bird, cool...been readin' up on it with the development of tracemonkey [00:10] MLanden: yeah, in previous releases, it was there, but not enabled. [00:10] Could be via about:config though [00:11] fire|bird: yep. ;) [00:11] lol [00:12] hba (n=hba@201.132.105.246) left irc: "leaving" [00:13] MLanden: http://imagebin.org/81380 [00:14] yes, that's my irc window you see behind there, I have Xfce's compositing enabled, so FF was transparent. :P [00:14] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-068.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:14] suse :o [00:15] lol [00:15] techwonder (n=techwond@c-76-25-159-2.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:15] fire|bird, looks good and clean [00:15] MLanden: yeah, and the bg on the FF toolbars, that's a persona. [00:16] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-068.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [00:17] fire|bird, yeah [00:17] MLanden: There's over 30,000 of them. :P [00:18] fire|bird, awesome....have a few loaded for 3.5.7 [00:18] MLanden: yeah, they are nice, and now they're included with 3.6 [00:21] fire|bird, cool [00:22] techwonder (n=techwond@c-76-25-159-2.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:25] nix_chix0r (n=hellokit@168-103-60-85.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:27] alreadygone (i=1000@59.103.205.196) joined ##slackware. [00:30] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [00:30] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [00:33] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-068.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [00:36] Is the only purpose of a switch statement convenience (easier than if/else and one can follow through)? 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[01:03] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:03] byteframe: casing out a small range of values in a switch can be done with a lookup table in O(1). The cascade of ifs is sequential O(n) [01:04] Ahh. [01:04] I remember Aztec C on the Amiga back in the stone age did this. [01:05] On a slow M68k, that was useful/important. [01:06] as well if/else must process each statement in order whereas switch does not rely on previous cases [01:06] or something like that [01:06] but as you mention it'll depend how the compiler is optimized [01:07] caoliver, the 500 or later? [01:07] I've no idea what GCC does. I've not compared the assembly code. [01:08] I had a A500 juryrigged into a mini tower. [01:08] My dad had at various times an A1000 and A1200. [01:09] Then he went Windoze. :-( [01:09] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:09] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [01:09] had the 500 and then later the 2000 with 3.1 [01:10] Fun little boxes. You learned to keep good track of your pointers, or you got a visit from the guru. [01:10] true....the red eye of nastiness flashin' back at ya [01:11] Heh! [01:13] More the red eye of "screwed up again, dude!" [01:14] lol [01:15] And you get that if you're lucky. If you're not, you blast a buffer. [01:15] the *wrong* buffer, more accurately [01:18] Zordrak (n=jaz@87-194-141-163.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:19] did y'all get a chance to mess with Amiga's Unix? [01:22] ezrafree (i=ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) joined ##slackware. [01:26] jg71_ (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:28] jg71 (n=edud@76.74.129.199) joined ##slackware. [01:31] Zordrak_ (n=jaz@87-194-141-163.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:31] hello folks [01:31] any ideas what might be happening here: i had slackware installed and then i installed ubuntu to another partition and everything is working great except each time i boot up into one or the other my time is reset somehow. some kind of an mbr issue or something? any ideas [01:31] time is reset ? [01:31] well the time isn't what it should be [01:32] like it isn't saving the system time between boots [01:32] is one set to local and the other set to utc maybe ? [01:32] timezone issue? [01:32] hmm okay that could be it [01:32] hadn't thought of that, thanks i'll check it out [01:32] should they both be local then? [01:32] is the minutes part correct? [01:32] or just they need to be the same [01:32] tank-man: now that you mention it, yes minutes are correct [01:32] just need to be the same [01:32] yasu (n=adminroo@tetkyo033107.tkyo.te.ftth2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [01:33] fhobia: right on, i'll check it out then, i'll just make ubuntu set to whatever slackware says ;) [01:34] 8) [01:35] hopefully,the cmos battery's sound....:D [01:36] troys (n=troys@h-68-165-100-2.dnvtco56.static.covad.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:39] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:39] keanne (n=riken@124.106.44.139) joined ##slackware. [01:41] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:41] hmm seems ubuntu is set to "America/New_York" while slack is set to "US/Eastern" [01:42] O_o [01:43] strange to use "America" in a timezone imho [01:43] like, uh, which of the americas? [01:46] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "Bored by the chore of saving face." [01:47] hmm.. anyone experience read-only usb drivers in slackware current? i have a usb drive full of mp3s, as soon as i plugin the usb drive, i can write in it, but when i start playing the mp3s in the usb drive, it becomes read-only file system. [01:47] Axius (n=fd@92.82.79.212) joined ##slackware. [01:51] pupiteee (n=p@93.86.36.137) joined ##slackware. [01:54] keanne, are you trying to write to the usb drive while playing the mp3s? [01:54] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:55] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-106-132.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:55] yes, but even though you stop playing mp3s, the file system is still read-only. same with root account. reinserting the usb makes the filesystem read/write again [01:55] Axius (n=fd@92.82.79.212) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:55] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-106-132.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [01:59] Axius (n=fd@92.82.79.212) joined ##slackware. [02:00] keanne, what format is the drive formatted to? [02:00] fat32 [02:01] maybe something from the output of the dmesg command will tell your some info [02:04] yasu (n=adminroo@tetkyo033107.tkyo.te.ftth2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp) left irc: Client Quit [02:06] pupit (n=p@109.93.234.170) left irc: "Leaving." [02:07] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-068.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:07] pupit (n=p@109.93.234.170) joined ##slackware. [02:08] Axius_ (n=fd@92.82.79.212) joined ##slackware. [02:08] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-106-132.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:09] Axius_ (n=fd@92.82.79.212) left irc: Client Quit [02:09] tank-man, you are right [02:09] FAT: Filesystem error (dev sdb1) fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 647113828) File system has been set read-only [02:10] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-106-132.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [02:10] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-106-132.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:11] that really hit the nail on the head [02:12] fsck time [02:13] thanks MLanden, tank-man [02:14] keanne, knock on wood....hopefully it's an easy fix [02:14] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left ##slackware. [02:15] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "I shall wake when I am rested!" [02:18] pupit (n=p@109.93.234.170) left irc: "Leaving." [02:18] pupit (n=p@109.93.234.170) joined ##slackware. [02:30] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [02:34] Hey guys [02:35] Anybody here ever try the 32 bit slack13 on a 64 bit system? [02:35] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:35] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-155-135.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [02:35] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-068.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [02:36] StonedSlacker, ehh... [02:36] Fraid so [02:36] My cpu is 64 bittes but I'm using slack 32 bit. [02:36] Well, not atm but in general, yes [02:37] I'm having some really strange issues [02:37] What's going down, clown? [02:38] System dialog boxs are written in ascii, I guess that what it is, nothing but squares [02:38] macavity (n=macavity@212088073002.static.sonofon.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:39] StonedSlacker, try fooling around with /usr/bin/setconsolefont [02:40] This is why I love irc, thanks [02:43] Can I past the output I'm getting when I try to start firefox in #flood for you to look at? [02:45] StonedSlacker: or, you could use a pastebin, such as pastebin.slackadelic.com [02:49] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-068.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: "Read error: 3.1415926535 (Excessive pi)" [02:50] lurker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-068.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:50] ugh, I cont remember how to use BitchX at all [02:51] firebird: I will have to use lynx to do it, could you post that link again? [02:51] pastebin.slackadelic.com [02:52] Thanks, btw what is Pango? That seems to be a big deal [02:52] it's a library for laying out and rendering text. [02:53] http://www.pango.org/ [02:55] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@71.104.236.81) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:55] URL: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/1iO7Ur87.htm [02:56] Makes sense [02:56] firefox 3.6 coming out for slackware 13? [02:56] >.< [02:56] probably [02:56] If I could just get a browser working it would be so much easier to google. Lynx gives me a headache [02:56] lurker lynx -g [02:56] ir works good [02:56] it [02:57] lynx -g does nothing [02:57] crap [02:57] and -g is not an option in the man page [02:57] thinking links [02:57] links -g [02:57] akar (n=ghi@92.82.79.212) joined ##slackware. [02:57] grahpics [02:58] but thought lynx did graphics too [02:58] lurker: run ls /var/log/packages/*pango* in a terminal, does it output anything. [02:58] links wants to open /dev/mem lol [02:58] juice: no, lynx doesn't. [02:58] aww [02:58] alreadygone (i=1000@59.103.205.196) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:59] yes, /var/log/packages/pango-1.16.4-i486-1 /var/log/packages/pango-1.22.4-i486-4 [02:59] well then lynx sucks :P [02:59] lol [02:59] the links -g still amazes me [02:59] matu (n=matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: "http://clicanimaux.com svp cliquez sur le bouton au millieu de la page pour nourir un animal abandonné, please click on the b [02:59] pictures in console [03:00] better than finger tabbing everything [03:00] Action: Delahunt doesn't like running his browser as suid root [03:00] shouldn 't have too .... [03:01] The install was already not top notch and letting gnomeslackbuilds do an online install of gnome only made it worse but I dont know how to undo those changes. [03:01] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:01] lurker, you can do what we did for upgrading (UPGRADE.TXT) [03:02] Nick change: lurker -> StonedSlacker [03:02] lurker, go to init level 1, log in as root, mount the cd/dvd image for slackware somewhere it won't get hurt (/var/log/mount?) and then upgradepkg --install-new --reinstall */*.t[gx]z etc [03:03] Ok, I'll try that. [03:03] StonedSlacker: http://gnomeslackbuild.org/download/ [03:03] scroll to the bottom, it has an uninstall section. [03:04] imo, I'd do that first, then do as Delahunt mentioned. [03:04] whoa, thanks, both of you! lemme try this [03:05] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [03:06] lol [03:06] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-068.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [03:06] The uninstall section consists of the command (more or less) that Delahunt told me [03:07] Well, same strategy [03:07] In a way, yes, but that section also has you do removepkg first to get rid of the gnome stuff. [03:10] Axius (n=fd@92.82.79.212) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:13] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-134.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:14] ok, be back [03:14] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-068.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [03:15] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:19] john_dee (n=id@95-29-15-48.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:22] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-068.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. 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[05:29] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [05:35] Darn....when I get my eeepc network driver working on Slackware, I am switching back. Aaaarrrgh.... [05:36] Why don't all other distros test out their packages before giving it out, like Slackware does?!! [05:38] sharat87 (n=chatzill@122.172.40.138) joined ##slackware. [05:39] sharat87 (n=chatzill@122.172.40.138) left ##slackware. [05:39] u-neeks (i=u-neeks@201-34-235-190.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:41] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:42] hrad (i=5ef14629@gateway/web/freenode/x-hrratducrhehswin) joined ##slackware. [05:42] is this combination ok ? pyqt-4.4.4, pyqwt-5.2.0, pygtk-2.14.1, python-2.6.2 [05:43] hrad (i=5ef14629@gateway/web/freenode/x-hrratducrhehswin) left irc: "Page closed" [05:46] rachael (n=rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.1.0" [05:50] rachael (n=rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [05:53] sirslacker (i=1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [05:53] Is there a way to set globally what arch a slackbuild will compile with to override the default that is called in the slackbuild? [05:55] such as export PKGTYPE=txz in .bashrc [05:57] yes, see the SBo FAQ no.18 [05:57] okay, thank you [05:58] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [05:58] sweet. that saves a lot of work. I thought it would be that though wanted to make sure [05:59] most variables arent hardcoded in SlackBuilds. eg. hardcoded: PKG=$TMP/package-$PRGNAM , not hardcoded: VERSION=${VERSION:-1.4.1} [05:59] oh cool [06:00] who has a great idea for how to filter out all the non-strings that strings(1) returns? [06:01] probably some clever grep-fu that i cant device since i have a regexp disability [06:02] MReimer_ (n=chatzill@p4FD481F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Client Quit [06:02] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:05] regexp disability ... the way to truly be severely handicapped in linux [06:05] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.76.49) joined ##slackware. [06:05] s/linux/unix/ ;) [06:05] s/unix/life/ [06:05] 8-) [06:06] indeed :D [06:06] which means i'm only partially disabled lol [06:08] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [06:09] Rich^ (n=rich@80.232.234.137) left ##slackware. [06:10] What is it you want returned? Alphanumeric with spaces? [06:11] Richlv (n=rich@80.232.234.137) joined ##slackware. [06:11] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.76.49) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:11] $ and % too [06:12] but all the "DOS drawing characters" and the other unreadable crap that just happens to end in a \0 is pretty useless [06:12] hmm a aA-zZ regex filer ? [06:12] grep -E "^[[:alnum:] $%]+$" [06:12] Or similar [06:13] Would get just the matching lines at least [06:13] þÿôé [06:13] ^^^ is apparently alnum too :P [06:14] Weird [06:14] Not the definition I know of it [06:14] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@109.78.68.98) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:14] OpenSys (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:14] but heck.. it dropped the count from 135K lines to 5K lines [06:15] yeah i thought [[:alnum:]] was basically [abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234567890ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ] [06:15] so now i can at least go over it by hand [06:17] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-94-42-40-229.multimo.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:17] seems alnum uses some encoding things [06:17] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.76.49) joined ##slackware. [06:19] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.24.19) joined ##slackware. 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[07:03] nix_chix0r (n=hellokit@97-127-209-157.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [07:05] linXea (n=slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:07] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [07:08] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [07:18] usr13 (n=terry@74.113.242.6) joined ##slackware. [07:18] What command(s) can I use to check for problems on my Hard Drives? ...Hard Disk info [07:19] redness (n=redness@c122-104-155-245.fitzg2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [07:20] usr13, smartctl -a /dev/whatever | less [07:20] that's S.M.A.R.T. monitor info, will tell you if the physical drive is failing [07:21] if it's a file system problem, fsck should be able to fix it [07:21] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [07:22] you'll see something like this: SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED [07:22] nvision (n=nvision@g225056077.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [07:26] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-068.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [07:28] don't forget to enable SMART support 1st on your bios [07:33] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl10-136-227.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:35] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:39] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:40] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. 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[08:36] I followed the config directions, rebboted then did a gdm and here is the error I got [08:36] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/kUEPxL42.html [08:36] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@99.144.77.98) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:36] asked in #gsb ? [08:37] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-242-127.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [08:38] Ah, thanks, I will [08:38] although i guess most people from there will be here too [08:39] MReimer_ (n=chatzill@p4FD481F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [08:40] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:46] ardya (i=ardy@unaffiliated/ardya) joined ##slackware. [08:48] OpenSys (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. 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[09:38] Axius (n=fd@92.84.26.134) joined ##slackware. [09:39] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:39] StonedSlacker: perhaps it is the mighty digial gods' way of telling you that gnome should go to /dev/null ;-P [09:45] That may be but I've grown lazy and accustomed to it's conveniences. It's but nothing but console for days and for someone like me who is out of practice and was never that good to begin with, it's hell. [09:45] whats the problem? [09:47] StonedSlacker: why not xfce on a standard install of slackware? [09:48] sirslacker (i=1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [09:50] nix_chix0r (n=hellokit@97-127-219-117.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [09:54] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [09:55] I'm not dead set against that but I would like to have a file manager, that's what I miss. [09:56] Everything else I can do without, I do almost everything from the command line anyway but dealing with files is a pain on the command line [09:56] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.76.49) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:56] hrad (i=5ef14629@gateway/web/freenode/x-mgknsntbkpejttgy) joined ##slackware. [09:57] xfce has Thunar [09:58] Thunar is like nautilus, isn't it? [09:58] the best file manager is mc (works in both the console or a gui/xterminal [09:58] yeah [10:00] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:01] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [10:01] I don't toy with guis much. So much configuration. I jut run xmonad with all defaults and I'm done! :P [10:01] Does anyone in here have a slackbuild for firefox 3.6? I have someone outside of the channel that really wants to run it on Slackware but is very impatient. [10:02] 32 bit? [10:02] just use the one from current, comment out the patches and add --disable-libnotify [10:02] Pig_Pen: preferrably 64-bit, but if you have a 32-bit build it can be modified [10:02] we build FF from source now?!? [10:02] for 64 bit [10:03] i just got the 32 bit firefox 3.6 from mozilla, but a 64 bit version would have to be built from source [10:03] macavity, it has been on 64-bit since inception [10:03] hey.. i demand a "back port" :P [10:03] mozilla doesnt provide 64 bit binaries [10:04] manwichmakeameal: TY I am looking at the build script now to see if I can get it built [10:04] :q [10:04] Axius (n=fd@92.84.26.134) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:04] i agree with manwichmakeameal, use the slackbuild in current and tweak it to fit [10:05] I am on it now, thanks guys [10:05] dont forget to change the version number if necessary [10:06] s/if/as/ [10:06] yeah, you have to change MOZVERS to 1.9.2 [10:06] i think thats the right name for it [10:11] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:13] where can I find the source tar for ff3.6? 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[11:38] vastina (i=jaird@64.215.163.99) left irc: Connection reset by peer [11:38] echo mem > /sys/power/state is giving me problems on resume with a blackscreen though the xfce method works fine. I'm using enlightenment now. [11:39] Reaver1 (n=User@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:40] pm-suspend [11:40] neyt [11:40] i have no pm-suspend [11:40] pm-utils basically does htat echo, but uses hal quirks to fix stuff like sound, video, etc. [11:40] mrselfpwn, are you on 13? [11:40] -current [11:41] well, very close to -current [11:41] try as root [11:41] it's /usr/sbin/pm-suspend [11:41] thanks sahk0 thrice [11:41] typically those are run as root (through acpid or so) [11:42] works like a charm thanks. I didn't think i had pm-utils installed. [11:43] and using a non-root user only shows pm-is-supported command [11:45] so it's acpid being used and that is what i wanted [11:45] well, typicall acpid picks up on events (like closing your lid), and then calls some action (like pm-suspend) [11:46] yes, i noticed that in /etc/acpi/events [11:46] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [11:51] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-068.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:51] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [11:51] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [11:51] mrselfpwn, rworkman has some decent examples here: http://rlworkman.net/conf/acpi/ [11:52] oh cool I have a lenovo so probably similar. thanks [11:58] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [12:03] hiptobecubic (n=john@75.111.175.180) joined ##slackware. [12:04] ~++ [12:06] What is the standard way of setting up wireless in slackware? Editing rc.inet1.conf or editing rc.wireless? They both seem to have everything you need [12:06] rc.ine1.conf [12:07] +t [12:07] buring_love (i=1000@h-223-74.A258.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:08] So what is the point of rc.wireless? [12:08] Patero-ng (n=Basura@174-23-36-37.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:08] hello slackers [12:08] to be depreciated [12:08] WOOOTR (n=chris@cpe-071-071-247-141.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:08] hello [12:08] hiptobecubic, honestly, not sure. I think it should be removed and killed personally [12:08] spook, deprecated? Or ... devalued? [12:08] hiptobecubic: beat me to it, but I was gonna call spook on that too. [12:08] I want to know if I can upgrade my kernel [12:08] :D [12:08] and if I need recompile [12:08] hiptobecubic: use inet1.conf rc.wireless is deprecated, i would expect it to disappear in the not to distant future [12:08] eviljames, ;) [12:08] ok good. thanks [12:09] it's a neat idea, but it's pretty complex and doesn't offer much advantage to rc.inet1.conf [12:09] Patero-ng: what slackware version are you using? [12:09] Patero-ng: You certainly can, and probably should. [12:09] 12 [12:09] recompile? [12:09] why can't I just downlad the kernel recy [12:09] maybe, depends. [12:09] cuz when I ran live cd it didnt' take 20min to load [12:09] upgrade slackware version maybe while you're at it? [12:09] maybe you need to add "compact" to your lilo options? [12:10] what's dat [12:10] man lilo.conf [12:10] # does not work on all systems [12:10] k but [12:10] I want security [12:10] Security is a procedure, not a program. [12:10] I want to upgrade my kernel to be sure but I want to know if I can just download it [12:11] well then [12:11] am using slack 12 how can I patch it [12:11] Patero-ng: why do you want to upgrade your kernel? [12:11] Have you looked in the patches/ folder for slackware-12.x? [12:11] Patero-ng: not at all to suggest you shouldn't, just curious why. [12:12] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.119.112) left irc: Connection timed out [12:12] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [12:12] upgrade kernel [12:12] to keep my system secure [12:12] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.119.112) joined ##slackware. [12:13] . [12:13] Patero-ng: only upgrading your kernel, without understanding what the problems with your old one are, isnt going to keep your system secure. [12:14] were you reading an article about the windows kernel 5 mins ago? [12:14] is there a specific security issue with your current kernel? [12:14] I dont' know [12:14] part of being secure is understanding potential threats, and vulnerabilities. requires a fair bit of research. [12:16] Patero-ng: there are lots of considerations, if you are the only one with access to the machine local priviledge escalation exploits are going to be not much of a concern [12:16] buring_love (i=1000@h-223-74.A258.priv.bahnhof.se) left ##slackware. [12:17] Patero-ng: unfortunately for you, security is not as simple as upgrading your kernel from an arbitary version to another arbitary version [12:18] not to suggest that your current version is arbitary, but any version you chose to upgrade to may as well be arbitary if you dont do the research or understand the issues involved. [12:22] yes [12:22] you spook are my friend [12:22] what's u msn we need to talk [12:22] I have a document that says armoring your linux [12:22] it's from Sept,2000 [12:22] I still only read the first page [12:23] Action: spook sighs very loudly [12:25] spook friend [12:25] partner, would you come with me to remote-exploit [12:25] they say just upgrade to bt4 I wil be fine [12:25] debate with them for me come on [12:26] i would be wary of anything that people using backtract say. [12:26] I asked several time about patching my sistem they say me I can just change my root password to toor [12:26] s/backtract/backtrack/ [12:26] and I will be extra secure [12:26] Patero-ng: they are very clearly making fun of you. [12:28] ok spook friend partner I will read about holes [12:29] deximat (n=deximat@77.46.178.181) joined ##slackware. [12:29] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-174-54-122-211.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[12:38] no but I would love ta, as long is not filled with misinformationm [12:39] its filled with information about slackware packages that get updated due to security issues [12:39] I' on slack 12 [12:39] and links to the upstream advisories [12:41] WOOOTR (n=chris@cpe-071-071-247-141.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [12:41] WOOTr (n=chris@cpe-071-071-247-141.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:42] so spook [12:43] ur advicinig me to patch my system not upgrade [12:43] Thork (n=Paulo@189.122.169.132) joined ##slackware. [12:43] te (n=te@adsl-66-140-45-130.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:44] i'm not advising you to do anything if you dont understand why you're doing it [12:44] I want a prety secure sistem [12:44] security is a journey, not a destination [12:45] Hey guys. Anyone know why after an install of slack 13 it tries to boot grub? [12:45] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:45] it overwrited ur mbr [12:45] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d75-154-228-99.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [12:45] menu.1st isn't even listed under /boot/grub [12:46] i mean it wont boot it has a file missing error (error 15) [12:46] hahah [12:46] WOOTr: dude, it's because you failed to install lilo. [12:46] yes [12:46] run a live cd of lilo [12:46] and sudo lilo c:\windows [12:46] eviljames: I ran lilo as expert, it did install my man [12:47] WOOTr: If lilo installed, it would have been your boot loader. [12:47] u ran as an expert then ur nat [12:47] big trouble [12:47] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d75-154-228-99.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:48] WOOTr: that being said, the easy fix is to make sure your lilo.conf is correct, fire up a liveCD that includes lilo (system rescuecd or slackware install disc..) and lilo -C /some/mnt/pnt/etc/lilo.conf [12:48] aight I'll give it a try - thanks man [12:48] WOOTr: no worries. grub can be found in the extra/ series of packages if you would prefer it. [12:48] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-155-135.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:49] rofl nope - I think something is messed up with the boot order - didn't think about that so I'm going to go look. Thanks again [12:49] WOOTr: did you perhaps install to the linux partition, rather than MBR ? [12:50] dual boot - I installed as MBR and the other and same deal [12:50] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-155-135.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:50] spook, [12:51] u probably knwo this [12:51] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:51] I have a problem with firefox [12:51] that opens up slower then when ran as root [12:51] ur advice ? [12:51] te (n=te@adsl-66-140-45-130.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:51] dont run a web browser as root is a good start. [12:52] whats up with the ugly rat looking peguin? [12:52] WOOTr: read 2.6.27 changelog. its a tasmanian devil. [12:52] ah i c now [12:52] .29 * [12:52] JAJA rat [12:52] so spook tell me [12:53] running as user I do all the thyme but it loads slower this didn't happen before [12:53] ur take [12:53] compare the profiles and plugins/addons for the two users. [12:53] I createda new user [12:54] and it loads slow for them too [12:57] fadein_ (n=fadein@c-98-202-172-65.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:59] dtanner (n=dtanner@adsl-75-54-85-153.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:01] goarilla (n=goarilla@unaffiliated/goarilla) left irc: "leaving" [13:01] I am moving my base towards slack [13:01] is slack the most secure os [13:02] am on slack 12 but witha bt3 flavor [13:02] it is a simple question with no simple answer [13:02] ah fuck off.. you again [13:02] it is not "the bt3 flavor" [13:02] ok here is my question I want a OS that I can use for storage vital data [13:02] that I don't anyone to see over my dead body [13:02] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [13:03] you think this is a game [13:03] no.. you do [13:03] Gosh [13:03] ur insulting me again [13:03] this is NOT #backtrack [13:03] there u go [13:03] jg71 (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:04] I am learning linux [13:04] and I make mistakes such as using bt3 for a start [13:04] I have a linux book about this fat [13:04] fadein__ (n=fadein@c-98-202-172-65.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:04] fadein__ (n=fadein@c-98-202-172-65.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:04] What on earth is this guy talking about? [13:04] so go read is and stop bothering us. [13:05] Patero-ng (n=Basura@174-23-36-37.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:05] can we get a permban on this idiot? [13:06] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [13:06] macavity: unlikely. [13:06] so we are to tollerate that he comes in here ~2 times aweek and does the exact same thing? [13:06] /ignore is your friend [13:07] http://urmom.selfishman.net/redacted_ignore.txt < this is your friend [13:08] i prefere to not ignore people like him.. but call him out on his shit [13:09] macavity: theres only so much i can take before i either stop watching the channel completely or insult them [13:09] this guy should be chased out of town with a pointy stick [13:09] jg71 (n=edud@76.74.129.199) joined ##slackware. [13:09] he simply refuses to take a hint [13:10] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [13:11] preaching to the choir. [13:12] sounds more like hurling in the gutter [13:12] but ops are too tolerant and not around enough, imo [13:12] anybody tried the sparse memory support? [13:12] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl10-136-227.dsl.telepac.pt) left ##slackware. [13:12] PhotoJim (n=jim@adelaide.ip6.photojim.ca) left ##slackware. [13:12] ##kernel ? [13:13] i have 2GB and never even used 1... so no, i never bothered :P [13:13] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-136-227.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:13] damn, I *hate* this mode that doesn't allow to change nicks [13:13] when I return to the computer my screen is flooded with this error messages [13:14] Kaapa: you can thank the packet maggots and bot heads for that... [13:14] which? [13:14] spook: Yep that's the channel but slackware ppl love mods :-p [13:14] WOOTr: yes.. but we hate supporting them ;-) [13:14] stability? true [13:14] nvision (n=nvision@g224249208.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [13:15] macavity: I think the mode that only allows us to speak when registered better than that [13:15] but anyway... I understand that ops don't decide to put those mods on just because they feel like it [13:15] Kaapa: this way we dont get nick-amok bots [13:15] I know that's y slack waits for kernel release maturity [13:15] j/w if any1 has tho [13:16] fadein_ (n=fadein@c-98-202-172-65.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:17] Thork (n=Paulo@189.122.169.132) left irc: K-lined [13:17] Nick change: eviljames -> ass|hat [13:23] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:23] greetings and salutations [13:23] O_o [13:23] where are all the waffles?!? [13:23] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: "Leaving." [13:24] I et them [13:24] :-/ [13:24] and here i thought you were to waffles what santa is to coca cola [13:24] gm152_ (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:24] nope, I am much more stingy. 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[14:25] sssss (n=si@212.183.140.23) joined ##slackware. [14:32] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [14:37] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.20) left irc: [14:38] sssss (n=si@212.183.140.23) left irc: Client Quit [14:44] hrm...so does slackware have libnotify? [14:44] and FF 3.6 requires it... [14:44] you don't know how to check which packages are installed? [14:45] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:46] nix_chix0r (n=hellokit@97-127-211-110.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:46] thrice`, sometimes they are buried inside other packages... [14:46] nix_chix0r (n=hellokit@168-103-56-61.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [14:46] oh? [14:46] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-61-248.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [14:47] i there [14:47] *hi there [14:48] edman007: "libnotify" is an API to the kernel's VFS inotify capabilities. tools are in inotify-tools [14:48] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [14:49] adaptr, ummm, wrong one. FF 3.6 needs this: http://www.galago-project.org/news/index.php [14:49] adaptr, alright... [14:49] edman007, it's on slackbuilds.org, otherwise can be --disabl'd I think [14:50] rizitis (n=rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:50] oh, the desktop stuff [14:50] yes, my wrong [14:51] thrice`, well that is a problem i see a lot with slackware, some packages get included into the distro without things that it actually needs...take python, it is/was included in slackware without a core library (sqlite3) thus a lot of things listed only "python" as a dep when it was assumed that you had the sqlite3 module since that is a basic part of python... [14:51] and the qt3 build it still broken too, and i can't figure out how to get into contact with someone to get that fixed... [14:52] edman007: of course it isn't [14:52] why do you think sqlite has anything to do with python ? [14:52] one is a flatfile SQL library, the other is a programming language [14:53] edman007, huh? so, python can have sqlite support built in, but if some project mis-labels a dependency, that's not slackware's problem [14:53] adaptr, http://docs.python.org/library/sqlite3.html it got integrated into python, the python shipped with slackware includes it but it is broken and tries to open a non-existent library [14:53] built-in support sounds like it'd only be useful in embedded systems [14:54] edman007, how is it broken? [14:54] edman007: wrong. *python* decided to integrate it [14:54] "it" did not "get" integrated [14:55] the sqlite3 module in python is installed in the default slackware build, but it can't be linked to sqlite3, it is not a module that can be added on later, you HAVE to remove the distro version of python to use the sqlite3 python module [14:56] a circular dep fail? [14:57] adaptr, well the end result you cannot use sqlite3-python on slackware without recompiling python, it cannot be added later, and yet it is listed in the official python docs as a standard library module [14:57] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.119.112) left irc: Connection timed out [14:58] edman007: that does sound like a circular dep failure [14:58] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.119.112) joined ##slackware. [15:02] adaptr, no, it is not a circular dep...sqlite3 does not need python, but the full standard library of python does need sqlite3, and you cannot skip parts of the standard library at install time and install them later, sqlite3 is a very popular library and on the slackware install of python is is effectivitly blocked, you have to rebuild all of python and replace the system package, it is not a python module that can be added to sla [15:02] ckware [15:02] odd [15:02] mail the maintainer, shout at him [15:03] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@109.78.43.146) joined ##slackware. [15:03] and then the current qt3 build on -current has not been rebuilt since the last mysql upgrade...so that is broken... [15:05] adaptr, the maintainer is pat [15:05] shout at him [15:05] ... [15:05] no, wait, mail him first :) [15:05] Action: edman007 does not know the address [15:06] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:06] unlikely, it's in the release notes of every slackware release [15:06] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [15:06] volkderdi@slackware.com [15:06] but I presume there's a buggery for slackware-current ? [15:06] (I think). [15:06] '# Copyright 2008, 2009 Patrick J. Volkerding, Sebeka, MN, USA' [15:06] volkerdi * [15:07] there you go, there's about 100 people total in minnestoa - call one of them and ask where he lives [15:07] adaptr, lol [15:07] nix_chix0r, how far is pat from you? [15:08] edman007, i use the sqlite3 modules and i did not replace python [15:09] hiptobecubic, may have been fixed in 13.0...but i know it was the case in 12.0 [15:09] perhaps [15:09] hiptobecubic, and there are two versions of sqlite, the older (from before it became the standard lib) one could be installed after slackware [15:09] Does anyone know how the hell aspell works? I am trying to get it to use both english and french dictionaries together but the docs don't really explain it. [15:10] hiptobecubic, where/how are you using it? [15:10] Action: edman007 has his stuff set to use aspell/gtk-spell and i got a little gui to set the lang [15:11] edman007, you mean aspell? [15:11] I just want french+english spell checking together. preferably without mucking with system-wide files [15:11] hiptobecubic, gtk-spell lets me have spellcheck in xchat and pidgin...and if i right click i get a language dialog along with other stuff [15:12] hiptobecubic, but i think you are suppose to set the one language you want to use before checking the spelling [15:12] edman007, well it assumes en_US by default [15:13] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [15:13] hiptobecubic, -l fr_FR / -l fr_CH [15:13] but, for example i'm looking at this and it's only vaguely helpful. http://aspell.net/0.50-doc/man-html/5_Working.html [15:13] that will make it do french for your country [15:13] edman007, where? [15:14] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.24.19) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:14] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [15:14] butterball (n=confusid@173-8-15-186-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [15:14] edman007, i see how to make the commandline use any one particular language, but i'm interested in using en_US and fr_FR simultaneously + gtk-spell [15:15] So that if i'm chatting in french in pidgin, it doesn't think that every word is incorrect. [15:15] hiptobecubic, i think you would probably need to get a combined dictionary... [15:16] hiptobecubic: tryb using the Canadian French [15:16] edman007, are gtk-spell and aspell the same thing? a wrapper? What is it? [15:16] NyteOwl, boooooooo never. [15:16] :D [15:16] gtk-spell is a wrapper for aspell [15:16] :) should work pretty well for both [15:17] canadian french is the worst type of french... [15:17] edman007, so if i can figure out the config file like that page says, gtk-spell should pick it up also [15:17] it is bad enough to be french or canadian, but both... [15:18] hiptobecubic, gtk-spell should be able to just be set with gconf or something like that, i'm sure it has its own config file [15:18] gconf, yuck [15:18] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:19] hiptobecubic, well try the aspell config first... [15:19] edman007, i'd love to. Do you know how it works? I don't. [15:19] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:19] hiptobecubic, man aspell [15:20] no i did. It's just not particularly clear to me. [15:21] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [15:24] nix_chix0r (n=hellokit@168-103-56-61.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:25] lang fr_CA [15:25] in your /etc/aspell.conf or ~/.aspell.conf [15:26] assuming you have a fr_CA dictionary [15:26] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [15:26] Action: edman007 does not seem to have one [15:26] just france and Switzerland [15:27] hmm [15:27] but i don't want /just/ french [15:28] nobody wants the french ;) [15:28] hiptobecubic, NyteOwl seemed to speak as though the fr_CA dictionary is combined... [15:28] i think french is a terrible thing, so i don't know if it is combined [15:29] Why? [15:29] edman007: I don't think it is - I was being facaetious :) [15:29] but i think what you really want is a combined dictionary, find one, install it, and set it as the default [15:29] TriniTuX (n=chatzill@201.238.72.75) joined ##slackware. [15:29] nix_chix0r (n=hellokit@97-127-215-202.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [15:29] edman007, no. What I want is to use two dictionaries, which aspell claims to be able to do. [15:29] Camarade_Tux, french sucks right? [15:30] edman007: He's not around, he'll be gone a week or two. [15:30] which french, there are so many! [15:30] fire|bird, damn [15:30] almost as many as english [15:31] hiptobecubic, aspell lets you pick the dictionary, and it lets you have many installed, when you chat with someone just click the chat box and select the language...i don't think it can just determine the language and offer the right spelling, you need to tell it what language you want it to spell check in [15:32] edman007, I don't want it to detect anything. I want it to complain if the word is not in either dictionary. http://aspell.net/0.50-doc/man-html/5_Working.html#SECTION00650000000000000000 [15:33] hiptobecubic, well then do what that says, it has what you need to put in the config file right there... [15:33] edman007, but it forces me to edit system-wide files. Either i change dict-dir to my home dir and it doesn't find anything or i put my multi-dict file in the system dir. [15:33] but that just makes aspell make a combined dictionary, and now when you type a french word when talking in english it won't catch it... [15:33] no, the man page says ~/.aspell.conf works too [15:34] Action: NyteOwl thinking about redesigning website. dark, light or medium colour theme? [15:34] NyteOwl, black on grey [15:34] slackware. [15:34] edman007: ah the retro look :p [15:36] deximat (n=deximat@77.46.178.181) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:37] edman007, i'm fine with spell checking in a mix of french and english because i'm often speaking that way. If i set dict-dir to /home/john in ~/.aspell.conf it won't find anything in the system-dirs and if i don't then it won't find my custom .multi file... which points to the ones in the system-dirs which aren't found [15:38] and for some reason they have decided that you can't just add two dictionaries in the aspell.conf file [15:40] goarilla (n=goarilla@unaffiliated/goarilla) joined ##slackware. [15:40] hiptobecubic, local-data-dir and data-dir can differ, one for the system and one for the private [15:40] put the multi in the local [15:42] hiptobecubic, you need to brush up on your rtfm-foo [15:44] :D [15:44] hold on hold on let's see about this [15:45] oh come on. MISC OPTIONS ? What the fuck, aspell. Why not put it with all of the other options about dictionaries and paths? [15:49] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@83.225.102.193) joined ##slackware. [15:49] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:49] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:50] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: "Molon Labe" [15:50] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:52] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.119.112) left irc: Success [15:53] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.119.112) joined ##slackware. [15:58] hiptobecubic: have you considered using aspell for one language and ispell for another? [15:58] slack has both [15:58] Pig_Pen, it's for use with gtk-spell + pidgin/xchat not so much checking documents [15:59] ah, ok [16:00] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:00] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-169-231.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:02] my usenet downloading client blows [16:02] i guess it's not the client, its the server [16:03] i download like 250-300mbit/s but it's too busy to piece together thep arts [16:03] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-27-136.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:03] TriniTuX (n=chatzill@201.238.72.75) left ##slackware. [16:06] First, let me say I'm probably the most jingoistic dyed in the wool American you will ever come across. I'm so bad, I get a surge of adrenalin when I see a Canadian plate on one of the highways I pay taxes to help fund. [16:06] wow [16:06] someone said that on slashdot, i hope people like that burn in hell [16:06] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:06] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:07] burn in hell? thats so mean of you to say. die bastard! [16:07] yep [16:09] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-169-231.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [16:13] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-068.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [16:13] nvision (n=nvision@g224249208.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [16:14] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-169-231.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:16] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.224.81.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [16:16] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) joined ##slackware. [16:17] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.230.168) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:18] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-21-72.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:18] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [16:18] i kindda forgot does slackware rc-script check for new files with +x in /etc/rc.d ? [16:19] errordeveloper, not that i am aware of [16:19] prashant (i=prashant@121.245.57.205) joined ##slackware. [16:19] i just installed rc.noip2 there ..thinking when shall i run it and set some conditions .. [16:19] however, rc.local_shutdown and rc.firewall are some it looks for [16:19] what is rc.noip2 ? [16:20] if dhcp was succesfull it would run that script [16:20] and what does that script do? [16:20] Delahunt: that's dynamic dns updater for no-ip.com [16:20] errordeveloper, you have to add a check somewhere [16:20] and run it [16:20] yeah .. [16:20] yeah i agree, add a check somewhere that runs it if successful [16:20] rc.local is a common place since the distro will never update that and require mergine [16:21] *merging [16:21] somewhere in rc.inet1 i think (not sure; grep dhcp /etc/rc.d/*) [16:22] or yeah rc.local (if [ -x /etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd-wlan0.info ]; then ... etc) [16:22] errordeveloper, actually, what does noip2 do? [16:22] Delahunt: that's dynamic dns updater for no-ip.com [16:22] oh, don't make an rc script [16:22] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.25) joined ##slackware. [16:23] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/network/noip2/ [16:23] make it a dhcp script [16:23] that way dhcp calls it when your IP changes [16:23] err, dhcpcd calls it [16:24] prashant (i=prashant@121.245.57.205) left ##slackware. [16:24] no [16:24] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-169-231.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [16:25] why would you want to start or call a daemon every time your IP changes? it has an rc. script and runs in daemon mode [16:25] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) left ##slackware. [16:26] andarius, because you already have a daemon that does it, and that daemon has functionality to do something when it changes, why would you run something as a daemon when there is already a daemon doing that job? [16:26] ask the people who wrote that [16:26] it IS a daemon. just noting that [16:27] it is designed to be run that way. why get creative [16:27] andarius, i know, and i assume like every other app like that it can be run without making it a daemon [16:28] it is a bit cool outside here. then read and find out or dont recomend that. otherwise you are giving out nothing more than assumptions which could be bad advice [16:28] wow, I hosed that one... [16:28] then read and find out or dont recomend that. otherwise you are giving out nothing more than assumptions which could be bad advice [16:30] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) joined ##slackware. [16:32] Can I run ePSXe on Slackware64 13? I have installed the ePSXe 12.2 package, but it asks for libgtk-1.2.so.0. [16:33] *the ePSXE 12.2 SlackBuild package. [16:33] see ya guys [16:33] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-61-248.33-151.iol.it) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.0"). [16:33] Tirili, just install libgtk+-1.2 [16:34] err gtk+-1.2 [16:34] it is in l/ [16:36] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:36] gtk+-1.2.10-x86_64-4 is already installed. [16:36] Perhaps the problem is, that I have installed multilib? [16:37] nvision_ (n=nvision@g225058031.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [16:38] yeah ..hm [16:40] butterball (n=confusid@173-8-15-186-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:43] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:46] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [16:50] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [16:50] Nick change: Delahunt -> De|ahunt [16:51] This is exactly my problem and I'll follow the convert-step now: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/where-to-find-32bit-libgtk-1.2.so.0-754619/ [16:52] nvision (n=nvision@g224249208.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:53] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.119.112) left irc: Success [16:53] Nick change: De|ahunt -> Delahunt [16:54] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.119.112) joined ##slackware. [16:57] Nick change: fire|bird -> f|re|b|rd [17:00] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [17:02] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: "Leaving" [17:02] kloeri (i=kloeri@freenode/staff/exherbo.kloeri) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:02] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-56.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:03] The-spiki (n=spiki@77-105-33-215.dialup.sezampro.yu) joined ##slackware. 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[17:42] zalost (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:42] glib1* [17:42] veritos (i=4c68f9a7@gateway/web/freenode/x-mzqwocabpoqnzayw) joined ##slackware. [17:43] nvision_ (n=nvision@g225050248.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [17:44] I have a 64-bit DVD but want to install 32-bit for something (on a different partition). If I got a mirror of the 32-bit packages, could I just run the 64-bit DVD's installer on the 32-bit mirror on disk? [17:45] (I'm a dark and twisted soul, I know.) [17:45] veritos: sounds like it would work, but i would check with someone expert in that matter, someone like alienBOB or rworkman [17:46] doomey (n=doomey@188.24.11.15) left irc: Client Quit [17:46] ePSXe works now! :D Thank you, guys! [17:46] May work, or not, I never tried [17:48] rworkman: i heard the latest xf86-video-radeon has a cyclic dep, and that you are the expert on the matter. [17:48] hub__ (n=nvision@e179138239.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:48] rworkman: or, rather, libdrm and mesa have some bizarre dep situation. [17:49] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.119.112) left irc: Connection timed out [17:49] erm.. [17:49] they don't [17:49] Nick change: ass|hat -> eviljames [17:49] veritos (i=4c68f9a7@gateway/web/freenode/x-mzqwocabpoqnzayw) left irc: "Page closed" [17:49] you just need to update libdrm before mesa [17:49] edman007, so local-data-dir doesn't appear to do what it says [17:49] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [17:49] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.119.112) joined ##slackware. [17:49] hiptobecubic, to the source! [17:50] :D [17:51] Nick change: f|re|b|rd -> fire|bird [17:56] hiptobecubic: you ever solve your multi-languange spell check problem>? [17:56] Pig_Pen, not yet. [17:57] can you be logged in to more than one user account at the same time? maybe have one account for french and one for english (just a longshot) [17:59] Pig_Pen, like make a new unix user? That's way overkill, totally inconvenient, and doesn't solve the original problem :) [17:59] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.224.81.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:59] thrice`: k, thx. [17:59] I'm looking at the aspell source... and not gleaning anything from it. I'll have to spend some time on it tonight i guess [17:59] nvision (n=nvision@g225053195.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:00] veritos (i=4c68f9a7@gateway/web/freenode/x-urtaurehlwpcvfco) joined ##slackware. [18:00] What's that third-party utility that automatically builds Slackware packages from source tarballs? [18:00] The one described as 'magical'? [18:00] if it lets you use more than one language with aspell at the same time it is a work-around, i never said it would solve the problem [18:01] veritos, sbopkg ? [18:01] thrice`: no, it can take a tarball and figure out how to build it, for a lot of common formats (autohell, plain makefile, scons and the like) [18:01] no slackbuild required [18:02] a magical tarball installer... that would be what many call a good system adminitrator :P [18:04] veritos, use slackbuilds.org, it's much better [18:04] thrice`: i already know about it. hell, i've got a package on there. [18:05] hub__ (n=nvision@e179138096.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. 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[20:39] CcSsNET (n=user@c-71-232-198-164.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:43] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-23-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:43] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [20:50] nix_chix0r (n=hellokit@97-127-218-43.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:59] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:59] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [20:59] i wonder if you can install slack on a headless machine [20:59] Sure [21:00] alienBOB: any guide on it? [21:00] Sure [21:00] v4nelle (n=van@79.103.187.101.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:00] alienBOB: link? [21:00] i know on freebsd, you can install using a serial console [21:02] nyRednek: that is always possible, but with Slackware, you can also install over ssh [21:02] alienBOB: `link? [21:02] The CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT hints about how to start the embedded ssh server automatically [21:03] nix_chix0r (n=hellokit@97-127-218-43.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:07] nyRednek: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/remote-unattended-slackware-install-746521/#post3640607 [21:10] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [21:11] I remember doing an nfs install in '98 [21:11] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-16-42.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:12] thinking it was 3.3 or 3.6 [21:13] probably 3.6 then. [21:14] nix_chix0r (n=hellokit@168-103-60-55.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [21:15] ardya: '98...3.6 most likely [21:16] it was slow and painful, install machine was a 486 [21:16] coax based network [21:17] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:18] ability to ssh in for the install is a great feature [21:18] Nick change: ga_bash -> free_fx [21:18] i don't remember, which versions of slack came directly before and after slackware 96? [21:19] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-24-169.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [21:19] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [21:21] slackware-3.1 [21:21] nyRednek: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slackware#Releases has all the slackware versions + release dates. [21:22] BP{k}: thanks...wasn't feeling motivated to look it up [21:23] BP{k}: btw, it isn't quite accurate, pat released one slackware versioned "slackware 96" [21:25] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. 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[21:31] ardya: as it existed 10-20 years ago, it is no more [21:32] you guys are old [21:32] yeah, I looked at one a few days ago [21:32] sounds/ was gone [21:32] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:32] let me guess, you had to walk 3 miles in the snow to pick up your CD's ? :) [21:32] havent looked in about 8 or 9 years [21:32] uphill both ways ^ [21:32] we used floppies [21:32] 5.25" [21:33] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-47.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [21:34] 5.25"? damn youngsters. real floppies were the size of a record [21:34] I tried a record, wouldnt fit into the floppy drive [21:34] ardya: cdrom.com now redirects to simtel [21:34] hasnt it always? [21:34] ananke: remember the 8" floppies [21:34] ardya: no, not always [21:34] I seem to recall seeing SimTel when I visted cdrom.com [21:34] nyRednek: that's what i was talking about [21:35] ananke: and a full size lp or 78 wouldn't fit in that one either [21:35] ananke: remember the magnetic drum storage? made more for speed than capacity [21:36] 78s were great weapons [21:36] ardya: they also held high quality singles [21:36] ardya: a true analog recording, of one song, on a 14" record [21:36] nyRednek: unfortunately, those weren't that common where i lived [21:37] ananke: they lost popularity with the 45 [21:37] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:37] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [21:38] ananke: the 45 offered a lower quality single in a smaller package, but the quality was good enough for consumer use [21:39] ananke: and, eventually, technology allowed for the LP 12" record [21:39] ananke: which allowed for an hour on a two sided disk [21:40] ananke: and led zeppelin promptly released a double album in response [21:40] Inna Gadd Da Vida! [21:40] ardya: "in the garden of eden" was, at one time, the longest song that would fit on one side of a 33-1/3 rpm disk [21:40] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:41] indeed [21:41] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left ##slackware. [21:41] ardya: but with the LP phonograph, you could fit two songs of that length on one side of the disk [21:41] unfortunately, 18 minuts of boring drum solo [21:42] ardya: personally, i think "frankenstein"'s drum solo beat it [21:42] anything beat it heh [21:42] ardya: well, "frankenstein" was a pretty good instrumental [21:43] indeed [21:43] wore the album out [21:43] drove my father up the wall [21:45] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-42.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:45] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [21:45] u-neeks_ (i=u-neeks@201-34-235-190.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:46] u-neeks_ (i=u-neeks@201-34-235-190.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:46] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:46] slackwarebob (n=bobby@adsl-99-184-159-184.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:46] ardya: did you ever have a cutter? [21:47] elaborate [21:47] ardya: when i was a kid, we'd always break out the cutter every time we brought home a new album so we never wore the original out [21:47] you cut your own copies? [21:47] ardya: hell yeah [21:47] heh no, couldnt afford that [21:47] ardya: it was cheaper in long run [21:48] ardya: our first cutter cut wax cylinders [21:48] ardya: and those wore out faster than the vinyl cutter we eventually picked up [21:48] any degradation of audio quality? [21:48] ardya: some, but very little [21:49] well, on the wax ones, there was a LOT of audio quality lost [21:49] yeah [21:49] the wax cutter, btw, wasn't electric [21:49] it used an escapement to keep the rpm's consistent [21:49] what'd you pay for the vinyl cutter [21:50] it was right around a grand [21:50] what year? [21:50] when purchased [21:50] 87, i think [21:50] ohhh [21:50] I was thinking you were talking late 60s early 70s [21:51] i was born in the mid 70s [21:51] early 60s here [21:51] the edison cutter was from the 30s [21:51] it still worked fine when we retired it [21:51] but it was subject to audio interference from the room... [21:52] extor (n=extor@c-98-193-85-83.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:52] I stopped buying vinyl before 1980 [21:52] bought cassettes and copied them [21:52] ardya: well, we didn't like the stretch of cassettes [21:53] cheaper to copy casettes though :) [21:53] ardya: yeah, it was cheaper [21:53] but vinyl was still more reliable with better audio quality [21:53] as a kid we never had a fancy phonograph [21:53] arguably, one can push the audio quality beyond cd on a phonograph [21:54] are you a musician by chance [21:54] ardya: amateur [21:55] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: [21:55] what instr? [21:55] ardya: analog synth [21:55] I have one of those heh [21:55] ardya: which one? [21:55] Crumar String/Brass [21:55] oh... [21:55] m0n-E (n=m0ney@adsl-70-233-149-86.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:56] i'm trying to get ahold of a soviet one right now...i have an asm patch system right now [21:56] has the classic Pink Floyd Wish You Wre Here string sound [21:56] buts its really noisy [21:57] think it was made late 70s or '80 [21:57] bought ot off my old bass player when I started doing my own recordings [21:57] m0n-E (n=m0ney@70.233.149.86) joined ##slackware. [21:59] heh sweet, an inet stream I listen to is playing one of my tunes [21:59] ardya: well, mine is a dual osc+lfo dual waveform system [21:59] like a yamaha cs12? [21:59] epoch (n=epoch@unaffiliated/x80) joined ##slackware. [21:59] ardya: the soviet one i'm looking at, but can't afford is a keytar with digital waveforms [22:00] ardya: more like the minimoog [22:00] ahh [22:00] but the filter and envelope on the soviet one are still analog [22:01] it uses digital waveforms to provide polyphony [22:01] my asm is monophonic [22:02] sounds kinda modern [22:02] ardya: late 70s [22:02] digital waveforms in the 70s? [22:02] ardya: if i wanted a modern synth, an aleisis micron is one of the better ones, and also a cheap one [22:03] (I dont know a lot about old synths) [22:03] ardya: the sid chip did that too, at the same time [22:03] ardya: the soviets were ahead of the americans and japanese in synth technology [22:04] ardya: believe it or not, they still ar [22:04] ardya: they, being the russians [22:04] Moog was american yes? [22:04] ardya: yeah [22:04] and the Synclavier creator? 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[22:05] I'm sure there's a reason, I dont know it, sorry [22:06] ardya: i can't afford a moog voyager, so i'm looking for an old foreign one [22:06] the voyager is awesome, but out of my budget [22:06] in the 70s I wanted Taurus pedals [22:06] I viewed myself as the next Alex Lifeson [22:06] hehe [22:07] the one moog i had broke several years ago [22:07] and the guy at the synth shop told me it'd be cheaper to buy a new one [22:07] my father used to have this quadrophonic LP, I forget who the musician was, but it was all Moog derived [22:08] ardya: yeah, moog still makes a great synth [22:08] so does nord [22:08] this was an early 70s LP [22:08] but there's a problem with something of that calibre [22:09] the finickyness? [22:09] ardya: it was probably a studio moog, where everything is in patch cables [22:09] edman: I think libtool is a matched set with autoconf and automake [22:09] ardya: the COST [22:09] oh well, yeah :) [22:09] ardya: it's finicky as well [22:09] ardya: but that can be dealt with [22:09] IF you have the money [22:09] edman007, no, everyone else has bumped to libtool2. another slackware mystery :) [22:09] ardya: my asm doesn't have these things called "presets" [22:09] GooseYArd, i don't think so (since i didn't upgrade it and things work after a recompile) [22:10] patch bay? [22:10] ardya: all the way [22:10] GooseYArd, but i find it weird as everyone moved to 2.x [22:10] libtool can be bumped on its own :) [22:10] thrice`, yea...but a bunch of things are linked against it [22:10] ardya: i built a pitch bend into the right side of the keyboard(i'm left handed) [22:10] libtdl? [22:10] how? [22:10] even gentoo's stable recently moved to libtool2, which should say something :> [22:11] using a toggle or wheel? [22:11] GooseYArd, yea... [22:11] ardya: an asm is a DIY synth [22:11] ah ok [22:11] ardya: an old joystick [22:11] haha cool [22:11] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [22:12] man I hate libtool [22:12] a fellow guitarist in a band I was in built one of thsoe Heathkit synths in 1980 [22:12] ardya: x axis is pitch bend, y axis is mod [22:12] also bult a heathkit beatbox [22:12] and mod patches into the bay to which attribute modded [22:13] heathkits were fun [22:13] his synth was hilarious [22:13] we were doing Monkees tunes [22:13] ardya: explain? [22:13] Im A Believer [22:13] metal :) [22:14] he actually had polyphony on it? [22:14] yeah [22:14] up to 8 notes [22:14] he modded it severely [22:14] ardya: ah... [22:15] i didn't want to mod my system that much, i'm comfortable with monophonic operation [22:15] it was cheaper for him to buy/build the kit and mod it, than to buy a new synth at that time [22:15] for one, my synth doesn't scan the keyboard [22:15] i've got resistors jumpered between keys [22:15] and it's a 2 octave keyboard [22:15] starting with f [22:16] he now designs hardware/software for nuclear industry, and still dabbles musically :) [22:16] edman: whats the libltdl.so revision for libtool2? [22:16] .7 [22:16] 1.5 is .3, 2.2 is .7 [22:16] huh [22:16] nyRednek: so, record anything of your own? [22:16] ardya: never have [22:17] ardya: always tried to work with other musicians(can't write lyrics worth anything) [22:17] i'm thinking of building a soundlab [22:17] Meckafett (n=meckafet@unaffiliated/meckafett) joined ##slackware. [22:17] their newest circuit looks nice [22:18] If I tasked you with recording a solo for a song, are you able to? 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[23:40] sorry cryptic0: for mis-typing your name [23:40] hitest, doin' great thanks [23:41] hitest: no problem. thanks for the link [23:41] yw:) [23:42] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [23:42] seems like I will have to make a cdrom with that memtest program and boot from it. [23:42] isn't there a script that will just run while a session is up? [23:44] yeah you boot from the CD and it checks your RAM, the program runs from the CD and you boot your PC with it [23:44] gah [23:45] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [23:47] cryptic0, another option is http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ they have an older version(Memtest 3.3) that works well on it with dban also on it [23:47] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-195.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [23:49] memtest86.org free version [23:49] sorry [23:49] memtest.org [23:51] The-spiki (n=spiki@77-105-33-215.dialup.sezampro.yu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:51] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:53] MLanden: hitest: thanks for the links. There is one problem with this approach though. My server box does not have a monitor. I exclusively control it over ssh. [23:53] any way to get around that? [23:59] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:59] benjamin_breen (n=Bob@96-24-193-140.nvl.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [23:59] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [00:00] --- Sun Jan 24 2010