[00:00] anybody especially skilled at wifi? [00:00] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [00:03] hm. I just had installpkg run out of disk space on /usr during an install, and it gave me no error message at all [00:03] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-15-176.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:04] Urchlay: no room for error log :) [00:04] the error log ought to live in /var/log surely (which is on the / partition, had plenty of space left) [00:05] i presumed its not partitioned.. [00:05] what's not? I've got / /usr /home (meaning /var, /tmp, etc. are part of /) [00:06] ah nevermind, i thought /usr /var are on the same part [00:07] not to mention that regardless of logging or not, you didn't get an _error message_ [00:07] yeah [00:07] zcat /tmp/mypackage.tgz | wc -c # shows it's about 700MB, almost all of which would go in /usr [00:08] I have only 406MB free in /usr [00:08] nasty lack of essential feature [00:08] so of course it won't install... but there really should be SOME indication that it didn't install normally [00:08] even the exit status of installpkg was zero [00:08] I tried to use ndiswrapper for my intel 5300 wifi card to get around a known issue, that didn't work, and now I can't seem to get it back to normal [00:09] the module iwlagn is loaded, but wlan0 doesn't exist [00:09] is ndiswraper still loading? [00:10] if anyone's keeping score at home, this is on a slackware64 13.0 system, with pkgtools-13.0-noarch-3 [00:10] (in other words, no, I'm not on -current) [00:10] mancha, no, I removed it [00:11] what does dmesg show when you modprobe iwlagn? [00:11] looking [00:12] pastebin is down, can I pm it to you? [00:12] Urchlay,how much space do you have in / ? [00:12] sure [00:12] iwlagn: Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link AGN driver for Linux, 2.6.33.2-ks [00:12] iwlagn: Copyright(c) 2003-2009 Intel Corporation [00:12] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17 [00:12] Channel flood from maddslacker -- kicking [00:12] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: setting latency timer to 64 [00:12] maddslacker kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [00:12] maddslacker (~corey@174-29-75-41.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] MLanden: 1.1GB, according to "df -h" [00:12] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: Tunable channels: 13 802.11bg, 24 802.11a channels [00:12] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: irq 30 for MSI/MSI-X [00:13] phy1: Selected rate control algorithm 'iwl-agn-rs' [00:13] Channel flood from maddslacker -- kicking [00:13] oops [00:13] maddslacker kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [00:13] maddslacker (~corey@174-29-75-41.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:13] Urchlay, can you opt the package? [00:13] oops, I didn't pm the post [00:13] you only pm'd the first line [00:13] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [00:13] yeah, just saw that [00:13] lol [00:14] eh, the issue isn't that I ran out of disk space (I can fix that myself), the issue is that installpkg failed to report an error (which is itself an error, you know...) [00:14] sorry bout that [00:14] ok, nothing on iwconfig? [00:14] nope [00:14] well there wasn't. et me check [00:14] crap it's back [00:14] \o/ [00:14] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt7-port-176.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:15] you sound disappointed [00:15] well it wasnlt there [00:15] so I sound puzled [00:15] I get this from ifconfig wlan0 up [00:15] SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132 [00:16] right now you do? [00:16] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [00:16] yup [00:17] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:17] what does ifconfig -a show? [00:18] looks good [00:18] hah [00:18] ok, i'm out then [00:19] why do I get that error when I try to up it [00:19] ? [00:19] dunno, can't troubleshoot "looks good" [00:19] hold on, I'll paste it [00:19] not again [00:19] find a working pastebin, i don't want more floods [00:19] agreed [00:20] http://pastebin.org/172260 [00:22] that looks normal to me [00:22] but ifconfig wlan0 up throws that error [00:23] hrmm, we've got some rf locks happening i think. [00:23] try removing the module (modprobe -r) and reloading [00:23] one sec [00:23] same [00:24] here's a question [00:24] when I tried ndiswrapper, it had me alias the wifi to the ndiswrapper driver [00:24] could that be leftover? [00:24] maybe [00:24] remove the ndiswrapper stuff and start over [00:25] if you don't know how to undo things then reboot [00:25] I removed the module and the package [00:25] days ago [00:25] so have rebooted sonce [00:25] since [00:29] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-2-246.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:30] cat you cat /sys/class/rfkill/rfkill0/uevent [00:31] can you* [00:31] matrix (~matrix@static-200-105-223-39.acelerate.net) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [00:31] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-43-218.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:31] RFKILL_NAME=hp-wifi [00:31] RFKILL_TYPE=wlan [00:31] RFKILL_STATE=1 [00:31] that's it [00:31] ok, that's good. as it should be. [00:32] cool [00:33] i find this interesting in ifconfig [00:33] Tx-Power=off [00:33] even thhough the hardware switch is on [00:33] are you certain? try pushing the HW switch [00:33] I have several times [00:33] no change either way [00:33] although [00:33] could be in the bios [00:34] brb, I'll check that [00:34] maddslacker (~corey@174-29-75-41.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:34] but you didn't change that did you? [00:34] heh, he's in shotgun mode now.... [00:34] bbl [00:38] crashdata (~crashdata@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:38] I released the new slackpkg just now. If you want to use it http://www.slackpkg.org/stable/slackpkg-2.81-noarch-2.tgz to see what is new http://www.slackpkg.org/stable/ChangeLog [00:38] timster2 (mindwar@gateway/shell/bshellz.net/x-hqcwtrbboxxmmxiu) left ##slackware. [00:39] Guest96377 (~spartan@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [00:40] PiterPunk: Oi oi [00:40] maddslacker (~corey@174-29-75-41.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:41] mancha, well, I did a reset to factory defaults in the bios and now its back to it's working [00:41] or at least back to the state it was, with a known bug in the intel driver [00:41] thanks for the help [00:43] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-70-28-46.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:43] j0z (~SPH@189.114.176.111) joined ##slackware. [00:43] j0z (~SPH@189.114.176.111) left irc: Changing host [00:43] j0z (~SPH@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [00:44] PiterPunk: Any big changes since the 2.81 beta? [00:44] i'm 10 minutes from buying another SSD and setting up slack for my main pc [00:44] i'm SICK of windows 7 stupid preview [00:44] heh [00:45] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Quit: Reversia Media Productions - DeluxeGrrl.com && KeepingYouHonest.com [00:46] |Slacker| (~cris@189.64.227.140) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:47] niels_horn: I think the biggest is the verification if a package can be installed *before* it is installed [00:48] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [00:48] PiterPunk: Yeah, just read the ChangeLog. Look great :) Will download it and wait for the next update on -current ! [00:48] niels_horn: great! [00:49] jeev: stupid preview ? [00:49] I will be putting slack on my desktop when I get some fucking time and a new dvd player [00:49] yea, like it's aero preview, even though i have it disabled [00:49] hover over a task.. [00:50] putting 13 on there I really don't care for current 13 has an up to date firefox thats all want to be up to date [00:50] i have 13 on two desktops...it's very solid [00:51] jewbacca (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:51] i know its rock solid and I like kde 4.2.4 [00:51] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-70-28-46.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:52] hey all, what's a good catchall screen command to bring a screen-ed command up? [00:53] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:53] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Quit: When music is the weapon, we are all indestructable. [00:53] -d -R -U ? [00:53] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [00:54] i remember a command line that had -aADdr something on it [00:54] -aDhD? lol [00:54] I've just been using screen -dr [00:56] i use raAd [00:59] see, i want to spawn the process, and if it doesn't exist, to die [00:59] then i want to bring it up in the next command [01:00] phrags (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:00] sorry, no clue on how to do it [01:02] rather, want to bring it up in a terminal with the next command [01:02] i'm trying to put my fvwm back the way it was [01:05] hmm i have a 16 mb sd card [01:05] i wonder if that is enough to boot into slackware [01:05] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.108.227) joined ##slackware. [01:05] MB or GB? [01:05] mb ... [01:05] \o [01:06] fhobia: not nearly enough [01:06] darn, the usb installer needs 25 mb :-) [01:06] i have a 1 gb micro sd, but i lost the adapter to make it just an sd [01:06] :3 [01:07] fhobia, you can try and see if the older version with 2.4 kernel might allow you to load it...but that might be stretchin' a bit [01:08] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) joined ##slackware. [01:08] yeah [01:08] the specs say this has a "SD/MS/MMC card reader" [01:08] not sure what MS and MMC is [01:09] memory stick [01:09] multimediacard [01:09] whoah, weird [01:09] fhobia: ms==sony memory stick...mmc==multi-media card(sd without the secure bit) [01:10] fhobia: there's also compactflash and another [01:10] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [01:11] maddslacker (corey@174-29-75-41.hlrn.qwest.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:11] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-208.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [01:11] fhobia, you could also try tinycore which is only 10mb...but that small does cut some things out..:P [01:11] How to run this files i just downloaded from invidea NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-195.36.15-pkg2 [01:12] NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-195.36.15-pkg2.run [01:14] datace: youhave a few options, they all involve reading [01:14] there is the nvidia way : http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/195.36.15/README/index.html [01:14] and the slackbuild way :: http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=nvidia&sv=13.0 [01:14] pick one and start reading [01:15] wow. [01:15] are all preferable? [01:15] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:15] MLanden: :3 there has got to be some ununused usb stick in this house hehe [01:16] you are on slackware, the slackbuild way would be advised [01:16] datace: just do 'sh blablabla' [01:16] as then it is a manegable package [01:16] nvidia's drivers can be removed easily too [01:17] Nick change: mako-dono -> mako-sama [01:17] okay thnx.. im just a little newbie.. [01:17] fhobia, hear ya...think the smallest I have is a couple of 64mb sticks [01:17] heya MLanden [01:18] heya,fire|bird [01:18] I prefer slack packages as well, but nvidia's installer is easy to install/remove [01:18] MLanden: I have 256KB ram sticks.. you want? :P [01:19] mako-sama, usb sticks [01:19] I know... I just thought I'd throw my old ram sticks in the conversation [01:20] i even have this 60 gb drive from a ps3 that melted :/ [01:20] mako-sama, lol...it's all good [01:20] you can use it as a keychain [01:21] :p [01:21] anyway... this cough is killing me [01:22] going to see a doctor about this ~_~ [01:22] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: life is short, shorter when you don;t live every day [01:22] that bad huh ? [01:22] fhobia, was the drive salvagable? [01:23] the optical,I mean [01:23] oh...crap, i did not think of salvaging that [01:24] i think its somewhere in the house [01:24] i did not hit everything with a hammer [01:26] moanin [01:27] hey SunTzu, do you still need someone to do the ls /dev ? [01:27] no that was solved, tyvm [01:27] ok [01:28] weeks ago too; did you just get that msg? [01:28] nope, but man, it was weeks ago? [01:28] o_o ha ha [01:29] i think so. well, you know, internet time applies [01:30] SunTzu, your video card was able to use svga or was did vesa handle the svga calls? [01:30] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [01:32] strike the last was*...:) [01:36] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) left ##slackware. [01:43] all right! i found the micro sd -> sd adapter [01:43] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [01:43] now i can put usbboot.img on it by using the sd to usb adapter [01:43] micro sd -> sd -> usb [01:43] :) [01:44] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [01:45] fhobia, what size is usbboot.img? [01:45] just 25 mb [01:46] ok...on your 1gb micro...gotcha...fhobia..:) [01:46] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-208.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:46] Where can I find squashfs-tools ? [01:46] you need to make 'em [01:47] anyone knows...does iptraf keep any data while it is working or just monitors stuff and no logs ;) [01:47] no logs [01:47] while working ...nothing happens to bandwidth or anything right [01:47] unl;ess you specify -L [01:47] mancha: I need to make squashfs-tools ? [01:48] The-Croupier: right, it's just a monitor [01:48] it just puts the nics in promisc mode [01:48] MLanden oh the zgv thing too; i stopped working on that [01:48] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [01:48] MLanden but that's been a problem for me for years now [01:48] disappointing too [01:49] The-Croup, i'd expect minimal overhead [01:49] right....its just that i need to see what is going on ... no logs ..nothing ;) [01:49] dont want to affect the bandwidth or something either ;) [01:50] The-Croup, minimal overhead i'd say [01:52] mancha, thanks ;) [01:52] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Quit: When music is the weapon, we are all indestructable. [01:52] i wouldnt like to have it monitor and have my hdd going oops im full [01:54] SunTzu, do you still have a working SVGA monitor? [01:55] google's search page banner throws me off, it doesn't look good [01:56] yeah, it's distracting [01:56] i think the box shouldn't be right next to the banner [01:56] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:00] elderK (~root@pdpc/supporter/active/elderk) joined ##slackware. [02:00] Hey people. [02:00] Is anyone here having any stability issues with Slackware 13? [02:00] o_O all it wants to do for me is crash. [02:00] It's crazy. [02:00] Slackware <=12_2 was always rock solid for me. [02:00] nope, it was the other way around for me though [02:01] :( has me a tad worried,tbh. [02:01] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt7-port-176.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [02:01] heya,elderK...video issues? [02:01] It's either my hardware or... Slackware, I figure it's the hardware. [02:01] Since, Patrick doesn't release crap. [02:01] MLanden: Everything issues. [02:01] Keep in mind, I'm running Kernel 2.6.32 [02:01] Which could be the issue. [02:01] haha well, sometimes linux has a bug :-P he can't screen every possible hardware config [02:02] If I mount a NTFS partition - the kernel segfaults - but continues. [02:02] if I try it again, it crashes. [02:02] ow, that is weird [02:02] if I launch X, after configuring, It crashes. [02:02] And the system completely locks. [02:02] If I disable the HAL Auto-device-enabling mojo, then it will launch, [02:02] the keyboard lights will work, [02:02] elderK, what's the specs of your system? [02:02] but then, it'll crash. [02:03] MacBook 4,1 - again, which might be the issue. [02:03] Core 2 Duo, Intel GMA X3100 Video, 4GiB RAM. 320GiB HDD. [02:03] Motherboard is based on I965. [02:04] Also, note, I've installed a pretty minimal system. [02:04] That being said - I've installed all the important things - and I have no outstanding depdencies. [02:04] elderK, which intel driver? [02:04] (ie, there are no shared libraries or programs missing important libraries) [02:04] intel [02:05] xf86-video-intel-2.8.0 [02:06] There are a few other things that seem to enjoy crashing the system too, although I've forgotten exactly what they are. [02:06] adamk (~user@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:06] i think step one is to do a full install and report if the issues remain [02:06] Just, a little sad, I guess. It's probably silly to be disappointed about a release but, Slackware's built up an awesome reputation to me. [02:06] :) [02:07] it would be a huge waste if in fact this is due to you leaving out a system critical package [02:07] waste of time that is [02:07] quite [02:07] kis (~4e825806@gateway/web/freenode/x-ckarpovoktdczxqi) joined ##slackware. [02:07] I don't believe I have but, no, good point. [02:08] Any chance there is a way I can check - without having to full-scale install EVERYTHING? [02:08] I could just install all the packages from disc :) [02:08] MLanden i have a new-used lcd mon that neighbor gave me. my first one. [02:08] (and also, thank you for being so responsive) [02:08] grazymax (~grazymax@host36-157-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:08] what is better, a 1.6GHz processor with 512KB or cache or 2GHz with 256KB cache? [02:09] wario the latter, faster [02:09] wario: what architecture? AMD or Intel? [02:09] amd [02:09] install everything...the first option says full install ;0 [02:09] tf-20 vs tf-36 [02:09] The-Croupier: Aye - but I can do that without a full-system-reinstall, I can just go through slackware/* and install everything manually? [02:10] SunTzu, ok...sorry to hear on not getting SVGAlib workin' [02:10] It'd be useful if I could find out what's actually causing NTFS-3G to fail. [02:10] i suppose so...but its gona take lots and lots of time the way i see it ;) [02:10] elderK or, put all the pkgs you want in one dir and do, pkginstall *.... [02:10] As for X, it bithces about "failures to compile XKB rules" [02:10] the thing is, the laptop purchased was supposed to have the 1.6 like it shows on the sticker, but it has the 2GHz, though with the lower cache. lol [02:10] aye, precisely SunTzu :) [02:10] MLanden s'ok; just an recurring annoyance year over year, a great dsappointment; zgv was a very good tool back in the day [02:11] elderK dont forget to rm emacs* with prejudice :) [02:11] wario: It really depends on what you are doing - but generally, the slightly-smaller cache shouldn't affect you too much. [02:11] ;) SunTzu I'm a Vi man [02:11] :P [02:11] ok [02:11] ROKO__ (~ROKO__@2001:470:1f0b:655::10) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:12] what is the error on ntfs-3g? [02:12] Moment... [02:12] I may disconnect - if it is bad enough. [02:12] So, bear with me. [02:12] elderK: okay thanks [02:13] Moment. [02:13] elderK (~root@pdpc/supporter/active/elderk) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:13] oops [02:14] elderK (~root@pdpc/supporter/active/elderk) joined ##slackware. [02:14] wb [02:14] Weird, it didn't do anything bad this time... [02:14] Thanks :) [02:14] but you quit [02:14] I did - I was running irssi from a stupid place :) [02:14] ah [02:14] I couldn't unmount. [02:14] (I was using the Kernel's NTFS driver) [02:14] welcome [02:15] I wonder why it isn't failing now... [02:15] i've got good mojo [02:15] bad teeth is the price you pay for good mojo [02:16] Only difference is this time FUSE is a module, rather than compiled into the kernel. [02:16] and the "old" NTFS driver is around, too [02:17] damn, remote hd for my shell only has 4g free [02:17] and Generic ATA is included. [02:18] Recompiling, I want to see if I can get NTFS-3G to crash again. [02:18] hmm my laptop has a 1.5 mb free space partition ...i wonder that could be for ? [02:18] At least that way, I can learn what it doens't like - or what I did wrong :) [02:19] recovery partition? [02:19] Also, I'm not sure if it matters but I'm also using ext4 [02:19] too bad no one's writ a better script for configing the kernel src automagically; it would certainly be helpful [02:19] and the running kernel has all the necesary info [02:20] Alright, be right back guys. [02:20] make all, make some, make none arent that helpful [02:20] elderK (~root@pdpc/supporter/active/elderk) left irc: Quit: Rebooting... [02:20] Hello every1, I just installed slackware on a VM for test before install on my "Real" machine, 'n' cuz i dunno howto configure well my huawei e220 usb modem yet, I can't install it on my pc, any1 kno a link or something that could help me configure my modem? thanks guys [02:20] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.84.242) joined ##slackware. [02:20] google would be best. [02:21] grazymax (~grazymax@host30-158-dynamic.27-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [02:21] you cant boot a live dvd? [02:21] allright thanks, I've heard around that pppd 'n' wvdial can do the work [02:21] Is a too big iso SunTzu [02:21] ok [02:21] SunTzu: Great! I'm glad you're here. [02:21] Alan_Hicks ty, why? [02:22] SunTzu: I wanted to know why you haven't counciled the Joint Chiefs already so we can end this wasting war. [02:22] lol i'm working on that [02:22] (I'm not changing my trollish ways; I SHALL FERRET OUT THE scoffers! :) [02:23] (finger waving in the air) [02:23] lol [02:24] kis how much real ram is on real box? [02:25] about 3000 MB ram SunTzu [02:25] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:25] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-2-246.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:25] kis well if you think a live dvd is too big, then find a live cd dist to boot and play with modem [02:26] Allright I'll try that surely will work better then try on a VM ty [02:26] yw [02:26] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [02:26] i do think that 3g ram is more than enuf to allow a live dvd to run tho [02:27] SunTzu: That depends. [02:27] on what? [02:27] Did you build everything into the kernel or not? :^) [02:28] (no context to answer properly) [02:28] what are you talkin bout, willis? [02:28] heh [02:28] (dont forget to tilt head when saying that out loud) [02:28] wasn't he recently arrested (again)? [02:28] who?!? [02:29] arnold [02:29] oh him!? umm duno, have to chk tmz.com for that :) [02:29] as they say, ``loving Hollywood in our own particular way'' LOL [02:30] since 2007 [02:30] rofl [02:30] pah! partitions are for weaklings ! [02:30] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [02:30] where's init[1]? [02:31] where's Don Cuyahoga? [02:31] Time is 11:30pm, computer has been up for 1w 2d 14h 12m 46s [02:31] die stupid windows [02:31] using 6gb ram and i cant even add it up with processes [02:31] jeev: why you still on windows man !? [02:31] this thing is on crack [02:31] use the formerly BIG Red Switch [02:32] fhobia, call of duty.. [02:32] i gotta own noobs on somethig [02:32] jeev, no vmwares working [02:32] oh :3 [02:32] gaming on VMWARE? [02:32] i closed pidgin, was using 113 mb.. and now only 1.5gb of ram is being used. wack [02:33] im' gonna reboot anyway [02:33] heh [02:33] while my ccleaner goes to work, http://www.break.com/index/flip-flop-fail.html enjoy [02:33] pidgin 113mb?! [02:37] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.84.242) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:41] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [02:43] elderK (~root@pdpc/supporter/active/elderk) joined ##slackware. [02:43] Interesting [02:43] Still won't crash NTFS-3g. [02:43] Starting to wonder if it was Broadcom's STA Wireless module... [02:43] wl.ko [02:43] perhaps it introduces some SMP issue or something, somehow. [02:44] Trying X again, this should be funny. [02:44] :P [02:46] ahh [02:46] as i asked earlier, people use vmware and game ? [02:47] pidgin is a RAM and CPU whore. [02:48] elderK (~root@pdpc/supporter/active/elderk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:49] elderK_ (~root@125-238-255-81.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [02:49] I have to say, X11 trying to add "Video Bus" as a keyboard is bizarre. [02:49] :) [02:51] touchscreens [02:52] I don't have any touchscreens :/ [02:54] Action: elderK_ sighs [02:54] I don't know :/ [03:03] kis (~4e825806@gateway/web/freenode/x-ckarpovoktdczxqi) left irc: Quit: Page closed [03:07] Sweet, things are imprving! [03:08] No mouse but at least I can kill X now :P [03:10] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:11] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424064.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [03:11] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424064.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:12] mancha: still about man? [03:14] guitarman (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:18] elderK_ (~root@125-238-255-81.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:19] Nick change: fire|bird -> thunder|bird [03:19] Nick change: thunder|bird -> fire|bird [03:22] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.97.140) joined ##slackware. [03:22] Niccke (~Sn00B@ip-47-61-179-93.dialup.ice.net) joined ##slackware. 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[03:40] Then it dies, xf86SigHandler is called, [03:40] and the rest of the call graph has issues from intel_drv.so, [03:40] i830_allocate_(2d_)?memory, etc. [03:42] The-Croupier (~The-Croup@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:49] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [03:54] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-34.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:55] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [03:56] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-34.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:59] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-34.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:00] alekto (~nico@ti0153a380-0090.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [04:02] alekto (~nico@ti0153a380-0090.bb.online.no) left irc: Client Quit [04:10] jeev: i guess you'd have better results using wine [04:10] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [04:12] Niccke (~Sn00B@ip-47-61-179-93.dialup.ice.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving! [04:12] slackin (~slackin@100.232.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:12] What is the command to determine acpi version? i don't recall. [04:12] slackin (~slackin@100.232.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [04:13] cat /proc/acpi/info # ? [04:14] no, there is a command that gives the actual version such as 1.0, 2.0 .. etc. [04:14] i need to write it on my forehead [04:15] acpid -v ? [04:15] acpid --version [04:16] biosdecode [04:17] to find the actual bios acpi version [04:27] john_dee (~id@93-81-70-157.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:29] pupit (p@unaffiliated/pupit) left ##slackware. [04:33] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-34.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:43] is there a command line parameter to the kernel on the slack13 install dvd that tells it to use the scsi drive letters for PATA drives, like the kernel in slackware-current does by default? [04:44] newslacker (kc@75-121-100-111.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware. [04:45] that happened because the kernel started using libsata for ide iirc. [04:46] boris``: why? [04:47] well, it seems I'm reverting to slack12.2 [04:47] a full install didn't help things, I'm afraid. [04:47] why? [04:48] (me or boris``, Camarade_Tux ?) [04:48] both :P [04:48] you get a kernel panic? a backtrace? [04:48] I get hell on all fronts. [04:48] so, yes to both :) [04:48] many traces, many panics. [04:48] every time I do anything with X, it seems to kill the system. [04:48] NTFS-3G /was/ doing the same, [04:48] but seems to work now... [04:48] pastebin the backtrace if you get one [04:49] That's going to be difficult :) I'm in good ol' irssi and links. [04:49] The traces are all to do with intel_drv [04:49] failures about kernel memory manager, [04:49] the first few names [04:49] function names [04:49] i830_allocate_(2d_)?memory [04:50] Camarade_Tux: well, i upgraded to slack-current, and i neglected to update lilo to use a root of sd instead of hd. it'd simplify the reinstallation of lilo if the rescue kernel saw my drives as sd as well [04:50] xf86SigHandler [04:50] draeath (~draeath@draeath.net) joined ##slackware. [04:50] as for the NTFS-3G ones, afraid I cannot remember them. [04:50] and I haven't managed to cause it to die again :/ [04:50] I'lla dmit now I'm simply being lazy. I know S12_2 works fine, and I want to get onto doing stuff. [04:50] (works perfect with a little tinkering) [04:50] I updated kdebase-workspace this morning and restart X. KDE's acting a bit strangely now... slow, the "start menu" hilights the wrong section (ie it says I'm in Favorites, when I'm in Applications) [04:51] elderK: are you sure you installation medium didn't get corrupted somehow? [04:51] (i have no idea what that menu is called) [04:52] wario: It's possible but I had no errors during installation? [04:52] elderK, could be the kernel is trying to go into modesetting(KMS) and with conflicts to the driver,xorg-server and drm [04:52] boris``: hmmm, you have an usb stick? [04:53] MLanden: I don't have KMS enabled? [04:53] elderK, could be...did you build your kernel? [04:53] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.84.242) joined ##slackware. [04:53] elderK: http://www.mail-archive.com/xorg@lists.freedesktop.org/msg04708.html ? [04:53] yes. [04:54] Camarade_Tux: yup, something very similar to that. [04:54] It maybe still in Xorg.log.0, I'll check [04:54] moment :) [04:55] 0: X(xorg_backtrace+0x3b) [0x812d22b] [04:55] 1: X(xf86SigHandler+0x51) [0x80bc721] [04:55] 2: [0xb7748400] [04:55] Channel flood from elderK -- kicking [04:55] 3: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//intel_drv.so(i830_allocate_memory+0x2f6) [0xb71a3d26] [04:55] elderK kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [04:55] elderK (~root@pdpc/supporter/active/elderk) joined ##slackware. [04:55] 9: X(main+0x1e1) [0x806c281] [04:55] sorry guys [04:55] anywho, that was the trace. [04:55] from last run. [04:55] (EE) intel(0): Failed to initialize kernel memory manager [04:56] was the last error in Xorg.log.0 from X itself. [04:56] Camarade_Tux: i was intending to use the slackware install dvd and chroot to my root partition [04:56] elderK: well, with recent versions, you should have the same bug: "Remove i830_allocate_2d_memory() now that it only called one function." ;-) [04:56] boris``: you could just take current and boot on that [04:57] ooookay I restart it AGAIN, and it's fine. Small things (that I didn't notice were wrong before till now) are back to normal (such as my virtual desktop count) [04:57] boris``: booting on an usb stick is *really* easy and fast [04:57] Camarade_Tux: So, my mistake or just a bug? [04:57] from what I've found online, it's just a bug? [04:57] Camarade_Tux: yeah, but i don't want to find a usb stick or download anything, :\ [04:58] elderK: I'd try -current [04:58] and yeah, a bug [04:59] Action: elderK nods [04:59] boris``: well, you can do it without, without changing the names, I've done it, but I don't remember the details [04:59] maybe with the -b option [04:59] (to lilo) [04:59] well, i can just use the old names in the config file and re-run lilo, then change them back after booting and re-run lilo again [05:00] in xf86-video-intel ? [05:00] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:01] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [05:01] I'm off for a bit guys, I'll see you on the flipside. [05:01] elderK, In google, look using CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS as a keyword..but as Camarade_Tux stated it is a bug...you could try and use 2.11 as the driver [05:01] Hopefully with more luck :) [05:02] To all who listened and helped, thank you greatly :) [05:02] moment, MLanden [05:02] elderK: trying an upgrade to -current should be quite easy, so definitely worth a try I think [05:03] and if it still doesn't work, bug report time =) [05:03] # CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS is not set [05:03] aye Camarade_Tux :) [05:04] I trust Slackware and Patrick - I know he doesn't put stuff out unless he feels it's like, stable enough. [05:04] hmm, no, I've still got sluggishness. [05:04] :) [05:04] What exactly was changed in kdebase-workspace then? Something is wrong here [05:04] which is why I've used Slackware since way back [05:04] :) [05:04] elderK: well, the thing to watch out for would be the renaming of /dev/hd* to /dev/sd*, you might have to change that ;-) [05:05] elderK, as you will notice,it's been all of linux and intel recently with the bug [05:05] yeah, if you still happen to be using IDE drives [05:05] err [05:06] elderK: you tried the "alternative" drivers in extra/? [05:06] no? [05:07] could be worth a try then (I'm everything but sure they'll solve the problem but it costs nothing to try them) [05:07] aye, agreed. [05:07] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:08] MLanden: They are doing some pretty major changes with the intel drivers though, aren't they? [05:08] like, generally trying to improve the hell out of them? [05:08] elderK, yes [05:08] If that's the case, bugs and stuff are worthwhile. If it's not, then I'm just going to like, burn some little intel-stick-voodoo-doll [05:08] :P [05:09] Action: elderK salutes [05:09] bbl guys :) [05:09] elderK (~root@pdpc/supporter/active/elderk) left irc: Quit: "Testing! Wish me luck!" [05:09] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [05:15] gma chip can be a real PITA depending on which one it exactly is [05:16] Camarade_Tux, which xorg-server are you using? [05:17] 1.7.1 [05:18] i tried 1.7x with my 865g but got some tears...wih 1.6.3,none...been keeping up on reading intel devs with 1.8x [05:19] well, nvidia card and nouveau here [05:19] it's pretty simple: these guys don't know compatibility with older releases or other drivers [05:20] sorry,Camarade_Tux...thought you were using intel [05:21] :-) [05:21] radeon and nouveau ;-) [05:24] Camarade_Tux, with ATI Radeon KMS,significant improvement? [05:24] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-63.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[05:41] _RadioHead (~slack@217.170.244.7) joined ##slackware. [05:48] hi, i am using slackware 13 i have done a slackpkg upgrade-all and can see there is later kernels for me to be installed. I am currently on "2.6.29.6-smp" and theres a "2.6.29.6_smp-i686-3". I have installed to a luks/lvm partition. Should i be able to just upgrade or will i need to do anything additional for it to still work? [05:52] um, where did you get that kernel file? [05:54] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:55] if i do a slackpkg upgrade-all its on a local mirror [05:56] um ok, maybe that's the upgrade in patches [05:56] im just not sure if upgrading it will work as expected as i am using luks/lvm or whether i will need to do anything additional [05:56] i would say add another lilo.conf entry for it and boot to it, see how it goes [05:56] well using luks+lvm you need to have an initrd [05:57] so yes, you need to make an initrd for this new kernel [05:57] check /lib/modules/ to see if it has its own modules [05:58] okies thanks for the advice i guess as long as i add it as a seperate entry in lilo i shouldnt have any problems [05:59] yeah in theory [06:00] and make sure you use separate initrd's [06:00] [OpenSys] (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [06:03] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-34.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [06:05] hmmm i have just done the upgrade and it would appear that its just patched my current kernel [06:06] no new modules /lib/modules or kernels showing in /boot [06:08] hmm [06:08] may want/need to refresh initrd and lilo [06:09] ive refreshed lilo, just reading howto refresh initrd [06:10] would i just run "mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.29.6-smp -m ext3 -f ext3 -r /dev/cryptvg/root -C /dev/sdx2 -L" like i did initially? [06:13] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-34.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:27] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:27] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [06:31] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:32] gonna reboot hopefully be back in a min :) [06:32] gaz (~gaz@cpc4-runc5-2-0-cust424.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:36] godling (~nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [06:37] gaz (~gaz@cpc4-runc5-2-0-cust424.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [06:37] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [06:39] Why would DPMS be re-enabled after I explicitly turn it off via xset? This happens during the same session after a few minutes. [06:41] you used some input device maybe? [06:42] sahk0: What do you mean? [06:42] used the mouse, keyboard, etc [06:44] Are you making a joke? :P [06:44] no... [06:44] no, that's the first thing to check - that the mouse hasn't moved [06:45] oh. why would mouse movement have anything to do with resetting whether dpms is on? [06:45] I thought you were implying that I had used an input device to change the setting. :) [06:45] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [06:45] s/whether dpms is on/dpms/ [06:46] At any rate it seems I am finding many bug reports with a similar complaint. I will check those out. [06:56] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [06:57] and run lilo after updating lilo.conf [06:57] hmmm i am trying to recompile my kernel in slack13 when i do "make xconfig" it says i do not have QT4 installed. I can see looking on slackbuilds etc it has been available for previous versions 12.1 etc. Any reason why it isnt available for 13. Is it no longer required?? [06:58] Strykar: Was that directed at me? [06:59] rahul_ (~rahul@123.236.187.142) joined ##slackware. [06:59] gaz: qt4 is the default and only qt in Slackware 13.0 [07:00] gaz: first do you have a full install, second try "export QT4INC=/usr/lib64/qt/include && make xconfig" in an xterm [07:00] assuming it has the same bug that OO has [07:00] hey guys i need some help here, my touchpad is not working, no movement at all, tried searching a lot on the internet, but found no solution. synclient -l does list the device. and also i have added the hal file in the /etc/hal/fdi blah blah.... HELPPPPPPPP [07:01] sahk0, trhodes: thanks for helping, I guess. [07:03] WildWizard, yup i do have a full install [07:04] hElpPPPPPPPPPPPpppppppPPPPPPPPpppppPPPPpppppPPP [07:05] rahul_: Annoying people in the channel isn't likely to make them want to help you. :P [07:05] WildWizard, i do apologie it is referring to QT3 (Unable to find the QT3 installation.). I take it QT4 is just a newer version of QT3? [07:05] godling, hey guys i need some help here, my touchpad is not working, no movement at all, tried searching a lot on the internet, but found no solution. synclient -l does list the device. and also i have added the hal file in the /etc/hal/fdi blah blah.... [07:06] gaz: yep and incompatible, but you should have available in extra kde3 compat libs you need to install them [07:06] rahul_: See, that's annoying. Now I'm not going to help you. [07:07] wow so helpful of u godling [07:08] WildWizard, many thanks [07:09] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.44.177) joined ##slackware. [07:10] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [07:10] Hi. [07:11] Hello. [07:11] Godling?! [07:11] D: [07:12] adamk (~user@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [07:12] zzzzzzzzzz [07:12] hah! stupid xfce4-power-manager [07:13] ? [07:13] that's what was resetting DPMS [07:13] ah [07:13] (if you were paying attention to my dilemma earlier) [07:13] auska (~auska@197.Red-88-6-94.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [07:13] hi! [07:13] riza: yes? [07:13] hello [07:14] It's annoying when you are trying to watch a movie and every ten minutes the screen goes blank. :) [07:14] Kosty (~john@c-98-219-58-113.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:15] oh well.. [07:15] i have a problem tomorrow for X reasons, I have to upload 150 or 200 photos to facebook and picassa, there is any possibility to automated that work? [07:15] Suhana (~vash@host217-42-44-229.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [07:15] auska, there are tools available like juploadr [07:16] Isn't jUploadr for Flickr? [07:17] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [07:17] yes [07:17] I'm not aware of any automation tools for FB, though, and from what I have read they frown on people writing their own scripts to access the site. [07:17] slack_ (~slack@217.170.244.4) joined ##slackware. [07:18] can someone help me get my touchpad working [07:18] auska: You realize that this is not a Slackware question, right? You just need to search around for a tool to do what you'd like. [07:18] slack_ (~slack@217.170.244.4) left irc: Client Quit [07:19] well, i just saw that the hd on the remote sys where i have my ssh has only 4g free; celarly not enuf to be helpful for what i want to do [07:19] yes, sorry, i know it, but i didn't know were to ask that [07:20] thanks at all, i will try what you said ;) [07:20] auska read facebook docs [07:20] Yeah, try the documents of whatever service you are using. [07:20] Google documents stuff pretty well. [07:20] (usually, at least) [07:20] aha [07:20] i will do it! [07:21] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.84.242) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:21] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [07:22] hey WildWizard can u help me with my touchpad [07:22] rahul_, what kind of touch pad is this? [07:23] it is a synaptics touchpad, i can see that in the dmesg [07:23] don't have a touchpad or even a laptop so I know nothing, nothing [07:23] synclient -l lists the properties [07:23] thanks WildWizard [07:23] auska: http://picasa.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en-uk&answer=48363 [07:24] auska: It seems that the batch uploader exploits ActiveX. [07:24] rahul_, do you want it to use the synaptics stuff or disable the synaptics stuff? [07:25] goj (~goj@p4FE6E712.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [07:25] i want to use the touchpad. as of now, there is no motion when i try to use it [07:26] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-63.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [07:26] thanks godling [07:27] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:27] rahul_: do you have a xorg.conf? [07:27] and btw, gpm does not identify the touchpad either, i am running a custom kernel 2.6.32, configured synaptics_i2c as module, yes i have xorg.conf [07:27] driver is synaptics in the xorg.conf [07:27] do you use input hotplugging? [07:27] how do i know whether hotplugging is enabled sahk0 [07:27] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-2-246.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:28] that means your xorg-server uses hal and you havent disabled it [07:28] caixabox_ (~bd571432@gateway/web/freenode/x-pzmhhlnfbancmuoh) joined ##slackware. [07:28] but i have created the file in /etc/hal/fdi/policy too ! [07:29] thats most likely a yes then. [07:29] so what should i do now [07:29] did it work with the default kernnel that comes with Slack? [07:29] no [07:30] auska_ (~auska@162.Red-88-19-202.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [07:30] do you have a full install, at least of the x/ series? [07:30] yes i did a full install of the slack dvd [07:30] auska (~auska@197.Red-88-6-94.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:31] if it didnt work at all out of the box i dont think i can help. its supposed to. maybe ask in #xorg or something [07:32] does your xorg.conf disable zaxismapping (or whats it called) by any chance? [07:32] yes it disables, i mean there is no entry [07:33] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [07:33] if theres no entry then xorg uses hal, and copying /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/11-x11-synaptics.fdi in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ should somehow work [07:34] all my touchpads work out of the box [07:35] bad for me [07:37] hmm rahul_ does /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf have commented the options line? [07:38] yes they are commented sahk0 [07:40] hitest (~George@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [07:40] is this -current? [07:41] no it is not -current, i tried installing current and it screwed up so badly, it hung up before giving a login prompt [07:42] i thought 13.0 didnt have psmouse.conf commented. i am almost certain it didnt [07:43] im on 13 i can check if you like [07:43] which file [07:43] /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf [07:43] yes that one [07:44] it is commented out [07:44] i tried uncommenting and testing, still dont work, tried proto=any and still dont work [07:44] #options psmouse proto=imps [07:44] vldmr (~vldmr@187.114.192.238) joined ##slackware. [07:44] that line? [07:44] rahul_: can you make gpm work? [07:44] yeah gaz [07:45] exist any tool to fix NTFS problems for linux ? [07:45] gpm with the touchpad does not work, gpm works with usbmouse [07:45] weird. it must've been before 13.0 was released then. unless there was something in patches/ [07:45] vldmr, ntfsfix [07:45] anyway i dont what the problem is [07:45] gaz: thanks [07:45] godling (~nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: Quit: http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop. [07:47] hmmm i cannot find any touchpad entry in lshal output [07:47] i think i shud do a cold reboot , remove battery and insert again and reboot... guys i will be back in a moment... [07:47] godling (~nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [07:48] rahul_ (~rahul@123.236.187.142) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:48] did he figure out his problem? [07:48] my touchpad is working just great with gpm. 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[08:12] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:16] I'm convinced 2.6.33.2 killed hibernate for me too. This will be my 3rd failed resume in a row :( [08:17] thrice`: intel gr.card ? [08:17] D3lahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:17] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [08:18] mmhmm [08:19] just comes back to a black screen; all logs show success [08:19] Shuren (~Devilman@host210-42-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Sto andando via [08:19] gonna try a bit later on my netbook. i dont think ive done so since the upgrade. 2.6.33.1 did work [08:20] VoraZBR`out (~VoraZBR@unaffiliated/vorazbr) joined ##slackware. [08:22] hitest (~George@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:24] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:24] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[09:24] the original was replaced without backup by ati installation script [09:26] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:26] thrice`: no problems here with power management whatsoever [09:27] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.23.84) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:28] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.28.211) joined ##slackware. [09:30] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.14.72) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:31] Yop all. [09:31] gaz (~gaz@cpc4-runc5-2-0-cust424.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:35] latemus (~m@c-76-27-40-131.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:36] anyone know if any issues that might keep slackware64 from running smoothly on intel xeon 5500 series? [09:36] nope [09:37] Shuren (~Devilman@host210-42-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:39] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [09:40] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:40] thanks ephedrax [09:40] sorry dude :/ [09:41] np [09:41] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:42] I'm just testing the 64 version [09:42] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:42] and on a little core 2 duo E6750 :) [09:43] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. [09:44] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-63.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:46] Does someone has got some good results with PCI Express X-Fi Xtreme Audio ? [09:47] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [09:48] Shuren (~Devilman@host210-42-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Sto andando via [09:50] Shuren (~Devilman@host210-42-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:51] splitforthecity (~split@ip68-227-56-93.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:52] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [09:54] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:55] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424064.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:57] shemp (~shemp@66.226.201.54) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:00] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:08] how can i update the software i have installed on slackware? [10:08] which one [10:09] <_RadioHead> anyone using samba from -current ? [10:09] hcfd (~fed@host86-131-165-170.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [10:09] yep _RadioHead [10:10] <_RadioHead> Ephedrax: i have problem with symlinks , while with 3.2.13 is ok [10:10] i what to find for updates of everything, link i did in ubuntu with apt-get update && apt-get upgrade [10:11] auska_: you can try the current version. Packages are uptodate [10:11] _RadioHead: I using samba in a really basic version, just basic shares [10:12] Ephedrax, I'm using that version, but for example y installed a plugin for pidgin which show me new versions, and it says that there is the 2.6.6 [10:13] in current, there is pigin 2.6.6 [10:14] http://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-current/slackware/xap/pidgin-2.6.6-i486-1.txz [10:14] maybe you're not in slackware current ? [10:14] :S then i'm not at he current version lol, i thought i was [10:14] =) [10:14] can anyone tell me the permissions on /usr/share/aclocal/lt~obsolete.m4 [10:14] check your slackpkg mirrors [10:14] on current and 13? [10:15] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5.6K 2010-01-12 21:15 lt~obsolete.m4 on x86_64 current (that sux for my audio card) [10:15] (hey Camarade_Tux French ;) ) [10:15] thanks :-) [10:15] you're welcome :) [10:15] now I wonder why I have 660 [10:15] but then Ephedrax if I'm not at the current version how can i update to it with out installing slackware again? [10:16] (one one machine but not the other) [10:16] auska_: see your /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [10:17] auska_: is there a specific reason you want to change pidgin version besides that plugin? [10:17] uncomment a line of a mirror in the Slackware 13.0 current (near your country) [10:17] slackpkg update [10:17] <_RadioHead> Ephedrax: seems lot changes on samba :) [10:17] slackpkg upgrade-all [10:17] I would advise against using -current if you don't know what you're doing [10:17] *especially* this one [10:17] _RadioHead: yes, with active directory support [10:17] iavor (~iavor@unaffiliated/iavor) joined ##slackware. [10:17] hummmm.. [10:17] current is very stable. [10:18] yes but it has a lot of changes [10:18] yep [10:18] and upgrading to that one can be really annoying [10:19] humm expected the sata/ide problems, I dont think so :) [10:19] among others [10:19] like ? [10:19] aha oqs thank i will take a look ;) [10:20] auska_: http://www.slackpkg.org/documentation.html [10:20] and Camarade_Tux isn't for something special i only want to have the most updated software as possible [10:20] even if it crashes? [10:21] of course not, i mean the most updated software as possible that works ok lol [10:21] splitforthecity (~split@ip68-227-56-93.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:22] current introduces changes almost all over the places (I can't think of a componenent that hasn't been updated besides elvice) [10:22] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-63.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [10:22] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:23] oh crap [10:23] I know why my files have these weird permissions, bad bad bad umask [10:23] how bad [10:24] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [10:24] bad for root [10:29] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:30] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. [10:31] dunix_ (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. [10:32] Action: GooseYArd burps [10:32] Yeah, my soundcard works. [10:33] but not my fucking xfi extreme audio KIKOo version :/ [10:34] latemus (~m@c-76-27-40-131.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [10:37] dunix_ (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:37] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:38] Ephedrax run this command and then paste output to this channel: cat /proc/asound/modules [10:38] I removed it gnubien [10:38] Ephedrax: Sound Blaster X-Fi driver is called snd-ctxfi [10:38] too boring for a week end :) [10:39] hummm I can add it and try it [10:40] I seen that there is a difference between xfi card [10:40] ive got an pci express xfi extreme audio [10:40] Ephedrax: cards supported: http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&thread.id=132288 [10:40] and it doesnt work like other xfi [10:40] they talk about audigy se drier. [10:40] j0z (~SPH@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Quit: )(ă_â) ) [10:41] Ephedrax: http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2009-May/017332.html [10:41] already seen this posts [10:42] xfi extreme audio isnt on this :) [10:42] Ephedrax: run lspci to get card name then search for that card at... [10:42] Ephedrax maybe someone at the alsa mailing list can help so search this site for your card or problem and ask in the alsa mailing list: http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net [10:43] CA0110-IBG already search everwhere [10:43] and all ppl I see, sell this fucking card [10:44] Ephedrax search for sound card at http://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main then find the snd module it uses and search for the snd module at alsa wiki [10:44] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:44] Ephedrax: search for xfi and ca0110 [10:46] Ephedrax: and search for ca0110 at... [10:46] Ephedrax join this forum: http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel and ask in #lad the alsa dev's chan? and read: http://lad.linuxaudio.org/archive/lad.html [10:46] X-Fi Xtreme Audio (PCIe) [10:46] [10:46] CA0110 [10:46] Channel flood from Ephedrax -- kicking [10:46] [PCIe] snd-hda-intel; [10:46] Ephedrax kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [10:46] Ephedrax (zeus@vps.process-evolution.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:46] really ? flood ? :P [10:47] Ephedrax: yep [10:47] Ephedrax: search for ca0110 at http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel [10:51] anyone using radeon kms with slack13? [10:52] the problem is that ppl said its snd-ctxfi, other snd-hda-intel, and I never figured out to make this card work. And expected on Debian (sorr), I never see ppl on slackware which this card. [10:54] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-63.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:55] ``dont copy a string, copy its pointer.'' [10:55] Ephedrax: when the card is installed run this to see if there is a separate analog and digital card registered by alsa: cat /proc/asound/cards [10:55] I'll test now, just for you gnubien . brb [10:56] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:56] Ephedrax: there is a official alsa troubleshooting bash script you can run in you wish at... [10:56] Ephedrax need more info; run this command and paste the url the script prints to this channel, do NOT use some pastebin site due to data being truncated: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh [10:57] mtkoan: which video controller listed in lspci? [11:00] j0z (~SPH@189.114.176.111) joined ##slackware. [11:00] j0z (~SPH@189.114.176.111) left irc: Changing host [11:00] j0z (~SPH@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [11:00] mmm, found a whole ftp nest of Oberon files and systems. [11:00] gnubien: radeon mobility x1400 [11:01] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [11:01] whats the kms Q? [11:01] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.44.177) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:02] iavor (~iavor@unaffiliated/iavor) left irc: Quit: /y [11:02] http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=aa50408da8979b22bfe289cc1afd80ef2a5b1970 gnubien [11:02] mtkoan: uname -r [11:02] my machine locks up completely at startx [11:02] i think i also found a livecd of Oberon [11:02] 2.6.33.2 [11:03] i'm gettin a wo0dy :) [11:03] moar context? Xorg.0.log, etc? [11:03] Ephedrax: how old is your gigabyte P35-DS3P mobo? [11:04] between 3 or 5 years [11:04] 3 I think [11:04] I'm also running the latest version of libdrm, mesa, and xf86-video-ati from git [11:04] mtkoan: kms is enabled by default in 2.6.33 kernels, was not enabled in 2.6.32, causes problems if you use the radeon or radeonhd video drivers [11:04] which work fine, unless I boot with a KMS-enabled kernel [11:06] Ephedrax: card 1 in cat /proc/asound/cards is registered as 'Generic' by alsa which means an unknown card codec for the x-fi card in alsa drivers 1.0.23 [11:06] thats right, unless you specifically disable on boot or change the default in the .config, kms will boot by default [11:07] Ephedrax: as root run this: modprobe snd-ctxfi [11:08] k [11:08] .config: # CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS is not set [11:09] _RadioHead (~slack@217.170.244.5) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:09] mtkoan: ok, what is the problem, blank screen, distortion, etc? [11:09] gnubien, I must not understand, you're saying that radeon kms causes problems with radeon drivers? what drives am I to use then? [11:09] credo (~cherchez@80.233.147.119) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:09] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [11:09] Hey folks, How do I get my folders to be previewed like this? http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2716/1272071947270.png (NSFW) [11:10] well Its a full lockup, I need to hard reboot, with horizontal lines [11:10] riza: depends on your file manager [11:10] I think come file managers do that automatically [11:10] eg, Nautilus [11:11] I use dolphin in KDE. [11:11] mtkoan: did you see what video driver is being used in /var/Xorg.0.log ? radeon, radeonhd? [11:11] gnubien: my xorg.conf has radeon [11:11] mtkoan: ok, did you try starting X with no xorg.conf? [11:12] riza: google "dolphin folder preview" [11:12] gnubien: hm, no I did not [11:12] stunix (1000@85.19.183.98) left irc: Quit: When all are one and one is all, to be a rock and not to roll. [11:12] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:12] hrfms anyone know case that can hold two or more itx boards ? I know those rack 1u things that can take two such mini itx board [11:12] I wouldn't know, I use bash for managing files [11:12] mtkoan: did you create the xorg.conf file? [11:12] sitwon, I already have preview enabled but it doesn't preview folders, everything else it does. [11:12] gnubien: yes a while ago [11:13] riza: it might not support it, that's why you should google [11:13] mtkoan, oh, they changed it, so default is no kms unless you check CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS [11:13] Hm.. [11:13] Sigh. [11:13] hmm http://dickensurl.com/cf0c/Not_to_put_too_fine_a_point_on_it is actually quite good [11:13] mtkoan: try starting X with no xorg.conf file or to be safe run this and do the test it prints: Xorg -configure [11:14] but userstyles.org is down [11:14] dngr (~dngr@n11649137001.netvigator.com) left irc: Excess Flood [11:14] mancha: I'm not sure what the default was, I was sure to take it off in menuconfig for this kernel [11:14] Nick change: VoraZBR`out -> VoraZBR [11:14] gnubien: ok, I'll give that a try in a few when my backsups are done [11:15] riza: you cannot [11:15] So you can't. [11:15] no way to fix this f*****g card. [11:15] :( What file manager lets me preview folders? [11:15] dolphin [11:15] lol @ Ephedrax [11:15] Very funny. [11:15] No dolphin won't let you. [11:15] I'm using it [11:15] riza: Nautilus [11:15] It doesn't preview folders. [11:15] Ive got preview [11:15] It previews everything but folders. [11:15] want a screenshot ? [11:15] Show me, screenshot. [11:15] Yes. [11:16] mtkoan for future reference, you can also compile it in and use a kernel parameter in lilo/grub to turn off [11:16] (to keep from having to compile two kernels) [11:16] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [11:16] people just dont trust other people these days [11:16] its sad [11:16] mancha: oh really? thats sweet. how would that look in lilo? [11:17] riza: looks like it works for me in Dolphin [11:17] go to Edit->Preview [11:17] mtkoan: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI [11:17] sorry, View->Preview [11:17] Ya, preview is checked. [11:17] It previews images and stuff but not folder itself. [11:18] radeon.modeset=0 iirc [11:18] ahah... [11:18] riza: thats a joke ? [11:18] No. [11:18] folder with preview of foler into ? what is the interest ? [11:18] Ephedrax: if the modprobe snd-ctxfi failed then... [11:18] Ephedrax post a email bug report at the alsa-devel forum and include the url that the alsa-info script created as a reference. file the bug under your codec for your card, its listed in the url that the alsa-info script created. http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel [11:18] what do you mean "not the folder"? I can see on the folder it draws mini thumbs of the images inside the folder, which is waht you showed in your screen shot [11:18] Yes, preview of folder itself before I go in. Like this - http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2716/1272071947270.png [11:18] NSFW [11:19] gnubien: it doesnt faild, it works. but cant play anything sound [11:19] Ephedrax run this command and then paste output to this channel: cat /proc/asound/modules [11:19] http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/4449/screenvqv.png riza [11:19] 0 snd_hda_intel [11:19] yea, I see the same thing as Ephedrax [11:20] including all of his files.. [11:20] j/k [11:20] Ephedrax: the snd-ctxfi was not loaded then so file a bug report [11:20] riza: push the button ON :) [11:20] gnubien: you thing its a bug ? [11:20] Ephedrax: not a bug, just not supported by alsa yet [11:20] ok [11:21] Ephedrax, I have preview enabled, why doesn't it do that like yours? [11:21] I want to help If I can so. [11:21] riza: base dolphin config. no modification. [11:21] Ephedrax: a bug report will alert the alsa dev's to the problem [11:21] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:21] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [11:21] gnubien: could you give me the procedure to notice the alsa team ? [11:21] Ephedrax, I don't understand. ( [11:21] :( [11:21] Ephedrax post a email bug report at the alsa-devel forum and include the url that the alsa-info script created as a reference. file the bug under your codec for your card, its listed in the url that the alsa-info script created. http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel [11:21] remove your dolphin config maybe riza [11:22] riza: try Settings->Configure Dolphin...->General tab->Preview subtab [11:22] Ephedrax: file it under the name: ca0110 [11:23] Hm.. [11:23] sitwon, I only see "ask for confirmation when" "context menu" "status bar", no preview subtab. [11:23] Zozma (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [11:24] gnubien: can I pm you ? I don"t want to make a mistake when emailing the alsa devs [11:25] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:25] riza: maybe your dolphin was compiled w/o preview support. What version are you on? [11:25] :( [11:25] 1.2.1 [11:25] KDE 4.2.4 [11:25] I have 1.3 [11:26] Ephedrax: what versoin of dolphin are you using? [11:26] Dolphin : 1.3 [11:26] =) [11:26] What Slackware are yo uguys on? [11:26] I'll upgrade mine. [11:26] current riza gogo [11:26] -current [11:26] Oh no wonder. [11:27] ls [11:27] If I remember well, I've got this "bug" in the last version [11:27] riza: you could ride the bleeding edge, or you can wait for 13.1 [11:27] sorry, wrong window [11:27] Ephedrax: state the problem, include the url that alsa-info script created, file bug report under ca0110, you have to register before you can submit a bug report [11:27] LugarSivi (~LugarSivi@89-201-206-189.dsl.optinet.hr) joined ##slackware. [11:27] even if I mail it directly ? [11:27] Ephedrax: last time i read the alsa-devel page it said you have to register [11:28] I'l wait. [11:28] When I have time I'll do the upgrade. [11:28] yes, I registered. don't worry I listened well :)) [11:28] Thank you guys. :D [11:28] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: riza [11:28] But I never use mailing list, I hate this system. So, I hope it will work. [11:28] e271 (~ben@66-224-35-98.atgi.net) joined ##slackware. [11:28] Ephedrax: try it and see [11:29] yep. [11:29] thx for help anyway gnubien . [11:29] Ephedrax: if it fails then post in alsa-users forum at... [11:29] Ephedrax maybe someone at the alsa mailing list can help so search this site for your card or problem and ask in the alsa mailing list: http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net [11:29] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:29] Nick change: VoraZBR -> VoraZBR`out [11:30] I can't understand how ppl could search an information into all this list... :) [11:30] I have to try. [11:30] :courage: [11:30] Ephedrax: you can search both alsa email lists without registering [11:33] anyone here running xfce from their git repos? I would need some assistence on installing xfce from git... never tried to compile sth. that big [11:36] LugarSivi: you'll have better luck in #xfce [11:36] if i run xminesweep and click a spot, it clears some spaces and then segfaults [11:36] sahk0: ah, they are pretty incative over there [11:37] e271: Guess that means you found a mine? [11:38] ha [11:39] http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2010-April/027146.html gnubien [11:39] don't know if it's enough. [11:39] so i'm trying to set up a simple server for my own projects and everything is going more or less well with one big exception: when it boots it's not connected to the net or to my lan, in order to get it networked i have to go in and mess with the settings a bit [11:40] any tips for where i should look? [11:40] gdb bt only shows 1 frame. #0 0xb7faabf0 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 [11:40] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:40] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [11:40] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [11:43] slackware is the bomb [11:44] Nick change: VoraZBR`out -> VoraZBR [11:45] graffz (~graffz@118.175.66.195) joined ##slackware. [11:48] i finished xminesweep and it didn't call em a winner [11:49] no cool dude smiley face? [11:49] nope, and the clock is still ticking. the hell? [11:49] hah [11:50] auska_ (~auska@162.Red-88-19-202.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:52] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:52] mancha: you running 13.0/x86? [11:52] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-63.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [11:55] Buggaboo (~Buggaboo@535316B2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:55] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [11:59] how much memory should "plasma-desktop" process use normally? (and I don't have desktop effects on) [12:00] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:00] greetings and salutations [12:00] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:01] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [12:03] hello andarius [12:04] salutations e271 [12:06] "The power of the desktop computer is nothing compared to the rush one had from being able to manipulate a slide rule to the precision of three decimal places. Geekdom hasn't changed over the decades either. When I purchased that slide rule I knew I was never going to date any of the cheerleaders!" -- http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/howtos/my_favorite_os.htm [12:06] artaud (1000@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [12:11] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. 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[12:38] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:53] http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/howtos/my_favorite_os.htm [12:53] grrr [12:54] my favorite OS has foolproof cut & paste [12:54] actually I wanted to paste something but it hasn't been copied (vim over ssh in xterm) [12:54] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [12:56] in rc.M, 'setterm -blank 15' blanks the screen after 15 minutes, how can I disable that without restarting? [12:56] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:57] @nab [12:57] blerg ='( [12:57] settsetterm -blank 0 [12:57] er, setterm -blank 0 [12:58] cut and paste can be annoying on Linux [12:58] I've never figured it out, but there seems to be multiple buffers [12:58] one used for KDE and Gnome apps, and one used for older X apps [12:59] yes there are: clipboard, primary, secondary [12:59] some interfaces assume a windows style cut and paste [12:59] for example, the wayback machine on archive.org populates the URL entry field with http:// [13:00] ok, setterm doesn't work over ssh [13:00] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:00] in windows you can select it and paste over it. in X, if you select it you lose your earlier selection. [13:00] crl+bs [13:00] v4nelle (~van@ipa230.12.tellas.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:00] ctrl* [13:01] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:01] Camarade_Tux: thanks! [13:01] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [13:01] setterm's -blank: "Without an argument, gets the blank status (returns which vt was blanked or zero for unblanked vt)." [13:02] very useful considering it doesn't seem to work over ssh, so you have to type and unblank the screen before running that (or run it in a script, dunno how useful it can be) [13:03] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [13:04] graffz (~graffz@118.175.66.195) left irc: Quit: reboot [13:05] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt2-port-213.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [13:05] so, -blank 0 works :-) (wasn't sure, the manpage didn't mention it) [13:06] it still doesn't ? [13:06] Ahah, nice, Linux kernel have version names! 2.6.33.2 is Man-Eating Seals of Antiquity hehe [13:06] now I only have to wait for the next kernel panic to get a backtrace, maybe in June [13:07] vhann: that is news to me [13:08] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [13:08] vhann: where [13:08] e271: adaptr I just opened the Makefile from the tarball of 2.6.33.2 [13:09] welcome [13:09] v4nelle (~van@ipa230.12.tellas.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:09] VERSION, PATCHLEVEL, SUBLEVEL... NAME = Man-Eating Seals of Antiquity [13:10] Yup [13:10] Check your /usr/src/linux/Makefile [13:10] 2.6.29.6 is Temporary Tasmanian Devil [13:11] I'm on that, yeah [13:12] it's a new one to me, I know it includes the LOCALVERSION you can set yourself in the uname, but apparently not the NAME [13:13] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:14] strings doesn't show it present in vmlinux [13:14] Err Metey! A Heury Beelge-a Ret! [13:14] adaptr: It's not even used in the Makefile (the only occurence is in the definition) [13:14] nix_chix0r (~Hello@97-127-213-144.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:16] vhann: should have been temporal instead of temporary [13:16] Action: adaptr is tempted to check if xconfig displays it [13:16] gbowden (~gbowden@83.43.80.208) joined ##slackware. [13:20] Is there any way to make "display blah.jpg" show inline in terminal? [13:20] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt2-port-213.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [13:20] libcaca [13:22] Hmm... [13:22] xterminal or console? There's some graphics apps that use the framebuffer. But I guess 'inline' means xterm and would be something like what mancha said. [13:22] zgv - that's one that'll display to the console [13:23] xfce program, called "terminal" [13:23] yep, I'm pretty sure it's ascii art, then. ;) [13:25] just out of curiosity, what's wrong with what display does from xfterm4? [13:26] it opens a new window, ntohing wrong with it [13:26] I just want a way to quickly see what the img is [13:29] okay - well, I can't think of a way to speed that up. Well, I don't know what would suit, but you could have display show it to your root window. That's not inline, but also isn't a separate window. :) [13:30] Well, it's a 'separate' window, obviously, but I mean, a floating window, or whatever. [13:31] ohh [13:31] hm [13:32] What's the command to do that? [13:32] diplay -window root IMAGE, I think [13:33] I guess terminal doesnt support it [13:33] Oh. I see what it did [13:33] It replaced the background image in a conky window I had open [13:33] ...interesting [13:34] a conky window? Hm. Don't know about that. Yeah, I should have mentioned you'd need to alias, script, or otherwise join a command to restore your original background image. [13:34] gbowden (~gbowden@83.43.80.208) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:34] how is tis a time saver? [13:34] *this [13:35] mancha: it probably isnt... [13:35] would be cool, though, right? [13:35] mancha: probably isn't, beyond not having to wait for the new window to draw and to close it (though sleeping and killing would also be scriptable) [13:36] or pipelineable [13:36] dngr (~dngr@n11649137001.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [13:37] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [13:37] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [13:39] "Urgently need a script, preferably php to do the following: [13:39] I have a comcast cable with a linux server hooked up [13:39] Script will change MAC IP of the eth0 on linux and/or router forcing comcast to assign new IP address to the interface. Basically, it is up to use how to do it. The goal is for a linux server to have a new IP address each time script is called." [13:39] Nick change: NaCl -> Blastoise [13:39] *sigh* [13:39] Nick change: Blastoise -> Guest96399 [13:39] Pokemonnnnnn! Gotta catch 'em all [13:40] assuming that even works, he's up to no good [13:40] Nick change: Guest96399 -> NaCl [13:40] that wouldn't work. he'd have to change the mac address of his router [13:40] not his server [13:40] mmlj4: Why not check your DHCP client manpage? [13:40] vhann: :P [13:41] vhann: not me, that's a guru.com posting [13:41] and anyhow, I think he wants to spoof his MAC address randomly [13:42] Sodium: I like you too... in small quantities though [13:42] I think the FDA is k-lining salt, anyhow [13:43] goj (~goj@p4FE6E716.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:43] mmlj4: Well, if what the O.P. wants is to get a random MAC it's not that hard really [13:44] mmlj4: Yeah, Sodium, Salt, what's the difference :p (... go to the corner and cries 'nobody likes me buhhuhu') [13:46] jonsmith1982 (~jon@212.183.140.34) joined ##slackware. [13:47] jonsmith1982 (jon@212.183.140.34) left ##slackware. 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[14:01] that doesn't give me ideas on how to solve this [14:02] you're running -current, you're supposed to be able to do things like type into google [14:02] http://bugs.gentoo.org/305201 [14:02] http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=219743&action=view patch [14:02] xsamurai (~munki@pool-108-13-97-246.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:03] thanks [14:03] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-208.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:03] thrice is formatting and installing windows ME, just to use office 2010 [14:04] you hacked into my PC again?? [14:04] thrice`: Well if you were running Windows ME it's your own damn fault if he did. [14:04] i do know how to use google, but i prefer thinking that google sometimes doesn't understand what ask (instead of thinking that i'm asking the wrong questions) [14:05] zux1wrk, fair enough :> libjpeg8 broke quite a few apps, but most have patches / newer versions to fix. gentoo, fedora, and others are already using jpeg8, so they are usually good starting points [14:07] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:12] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.14.72) joined ##slackware. [14:12] thriceroni [14:13] if my upstream has it's own speedtest that maxes out my line... and i've got a gigabit there and i'm getting less than half, i dont know what to expect, a config issue on my part but it's UNPOSSIBLE! [14:13] yes, unpossible [14:13] how to save all these imgs http://g8.no/index.php?x=browse&pagenum=1 (fullsize) with one wget command prompt? [14:15] unpossible , impossible [14:15] UNPOSSIBLE! [14:15] xsamurai, if someone could come out and make a crappy distribution like ubuntitnitntitntni i can make words up [14:16] OclkdMan: You could use wget's recursive option, but thatwill pull the entire HTML pages. You'd then have to seperate out the images. [14:16] jeev: you should join the Treasury department [14:16] so i could personally cash your check ? [14:17] you can put the un in every word [14:17] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:17] OclkdMan: a=$( echo 'zna' | rot13 ); $a $( basename $( file $( which wget ) | cut -d: -f1 ) ) [14:19] like 'in god we untrust' [14:19] what's rot13?? [14:19] 'the ununited states of america' [14:21] qneo (~knao@adsl-dyn180.78-99-102.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [14:25] woops at rm 'ing speedtest.swf, pressing tab and putting * accidently :/ [14:28] OclkdMan: that was his wiseass way of telling you to do man wget :) [14:28] Zozma (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:30] v4nelle (~van@ipa230.12.tellas.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:30] yes i know :) .... i've already used wget for that purpose wget many times but fullsized imgs are not directly linked to main page. [14:31] Zozma (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:32] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:33] Zozma_ (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:35] OclkdMan rotate the english alphabet 13 positions, from M and replace current char with the char at the x+13th position. 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[14:57] adaptr umm, part#1 is furthest from spindle, thus slower than at the cyls nearest spindle, but the time diff is really not relevent [14:57] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt2-port-83.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby [14:58] SunTzu: and ? [14:58] just sayin [14:58] heh, massive disk fail [14:59] guess what, genius - all parts of the disk rotate at the exact same speed. if not, it would not be a solid disk [14:59] FRSoldier (frsoldier@93.94.25.110) joined ##slackware. [14:59] the data density increases further out from the spindle, so what you said is in fact the complete opposite of reality [14:59] that cannot be; even if the diff is infinitessimally small. [14:59] the outer tracks have a greater throughput [15:00] "cannot be" ? what, did you fail basic physics or something ? [15:00] the keyword is infinitessimally [15:00] I suggest you look up how a hard disk functions before making more off an ass of yourself :) [15:00] no, it is not. [15:01] but your help is much appreciated :) [15:02] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [15:02] on very old disks, there were identical sectors on each track, so the latency was identical across the platters [15:02] however, that hasn't been true for a very long time [15:02] outer tracks have progressively more sectors, decreasing the latency and increasing the throughput [15:03] since - here we go again - all tracks rotate at *exactly the same* speed [15:03] adaptr all matter stretches, even if it cannot be mesured. [15:04] and this is relevant how, exactly ? the access time and throughput on the outer tracks are at least 50% better than near the spindle - does your crazy quantum shit come near such figures ? [15:05] jnss93 (janes@gateway/shell/sign.io/x-kbvtnqslfpvgqdtj) joined ##slackware. [15:05] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@gateway/shell/sign.io/*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [15:05] jnss93 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: requested [15:05] lol, good response [15:05] because yes, you are talking about near-quantum effects [15:05] nods [15:05] and they're certainly not immeasurable, since they definitely do test sunstrates for this behaviour [15:05] *substrates, will less typo [15:05] If it had more sectors, the latency would go up, as it would have to search more sectors to find what it was looking for. [15:05] k [15:05] jkwood: incorrect. latency does not refer to reading data. [15:06] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-238-89.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:06] ... [15:06] it refers to rotational seek delay [15:06] and while that delay is identical across the disk, since, agin agin, the entire disk rotates at one speed, the increased number of sectors on the outer tracks means the odds are in favour of the wanted sector coming under the heads sooner [15:07] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.82.24) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:07] (more sectors pass under the heads per second) [15:07] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:08] granted, that difference isn't as great as the throughput, which increases significantly (50-100%), but it's still measurable with standard tools such as hdtune [15:08] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [15:12] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:14] the first primary partition is closer to the spinder? or the other way around? [15:14] hard disks assign logical sectors from the outside in [15:14] so they always start with the fastest tracks [15:15] cylinder 0 (the boot sector) is the outermost one [15:15] thanks [15:16] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [15:20] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [15:21] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [15:22] cd 1 of slacwkare 13 should boot right? [15:23] yes [15:24] sevens (~sevens@unaffiliated/sevens) joined ##slackware. [15:24] it's not working... I'll try it here. bye [15:24] P4C0 (~paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) left irc: Quit: out [15:33] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [15:34] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:37] wescotte (~wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. 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[15:48] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:49] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424064.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:50] how do I figure out whether my term charset is mismatched between the terminal and a remote session ? [15:51] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.226.16.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:51] I mean, it IS, because when I run MC I get crap for line-drawing characters, but how do I show the character settings [15:53] adaptr: I thought the utf-8 spec called for a particular endianness though [15:53] Urchlay: look it up ? [15:53] it's a standard, after all [15:54] quoth wikipedia: Many Windows programs (including Windows Notepad) add the bytes 0xEF,0xBB,0xBF at the start of any document saved as UTF-8. This is the UTF-8 encoding of the Unicode byte-order mark (BOM), and is commonly referred to as a UTF-8 BOM even though it is not relevant to byte order. [15:55] that's from their page on utf-8... "not relevant" it says [15:55] FRSoldier (frsoldier@93.94.25.110) left irc: Quit: life is but a dream [15:56] adaptr: Are your terminal and your remote session's LANG env vars set to the same value? [15:57] vhann: let me check [15:58] vhann: local is en_US, remote is en_US.UTF-8 :) [15:58] utf8 characters can be 1 to 4 bytes long, and always are encoded big-endian (well, sort-of, the encoded bytes use some bits to mean "this is the start of a sequence" and the other bits as encoded data) [15:58] where should I set it here ? [15:58] never mind, i'll just grep /etc [15:58] w3c.org advises not to use BOMs too [15:58] adaptr: /etc/profile.d/lang.sh [15:58] urkle, utf8 is self-syncing on n[0 [15:58] oops [15:58] vhann: thanks [15:58] I'm tempted to tell you to sed or dd [15:59] urkle, utf8 is self-syncing on n[0] < 0x80 [15:59] SunTzu: right... and BOMs are useless [15:59] nods [15:59] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [15:59] unless as strictly file magic [15:59] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:59] probably if I were using iconv's C API in my own code, I could easily tell it not to emit the BOM [15:59] 4x [16:00] oop, 3x [16:00] trying to use the iconv CLI tool, from within a SlackBuild, and I don't see a way to tell it no BOM [16:00] Reav_ (~Sarge@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [16:00] well... [16:00] sed it [16:00] I suppose I could try sed 's/\xef\xbb\xbf//' [16:01] but be sure it's not a lame alt-utf seq [16:01] Urchlay: seems you wouldn't be able to actually [16:01] yea [16:01] seq/file [16:01] but maybe I'm putting too much effort into this [16:01] kiss pls [16:01] if the file is exactly utf8, then do sed it. [16:01] these are documentation for a package... anyone using an editor smart enough to auto-detect the encoding, is also using an editor smart enough to handle \r\n line endings, right? [16:02] i think so [16:02] vim displays the \r [16:02] why do you get all that? [16:02] but user has to be smart too [16:03] Camarade_Tux: actually vim is displaying the files just fine (on the status line, it says [converted][dos], but you don't see the \r's) [16:03] Urchlay: ah, right, it _may_ display them [16:03] (rather: it may not) [16:03] but the best thing is to never generate these \r, right? ;-) [16:04] in my experience, vim only display's the \r's, if the file has some lines that end in plain \n and some that end in \r\n [16:04] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [16:04] use fromdos [16:04] if the whole file is self-consistent (all lines are CRLF), vim handles it fine [16:05] fromdos mangles utf-16 *badly* [16:05] then iconv that then fromdos [16:05] two filters [16:05] vhann: okay, set them both equal, re-login to my remote session, still no go :( it works fine locally [16:05] Urchlay: yes, in my experience too (had forgotten ;-) ) [16:05] yeah, I was planning to do that (using sed instead of fromdos), my main question is how to get rid of the BOMs [16:06] answer seems to be "another sed instance" [16:06] another sed expression, same instance? [16:06] adaptr: Yeah, I made some tests myself and it seems it doesn't necessarily work right. [16:06] yeah, sed -e blah -e moreblah [16:07] vhann: I will probably try without the UTF-8, although I don't see why that should be an issue in this day and age [16:07] I suppose before I do this... I should find some people who use Slackware and who read these languages, and ask them whether they'd prefer to deal with utf-16 or utf-8 [16:07] 1st iconv to utf8 to rm the nulls, then the BOM [16:07] also, it's probably not a case of utf8 not being supported, because the terminal displays chinese and korean crap just fine - just not the line drawing chars I want [16:07] adaptr: I might be wrong, but I remember something about the client requesting a font which exists locally but doesn't remotely [16:08] Urchlay i seriously prefer 8 [16:08] Russian, Greek, Hungarian... I know just enough about Russian to recognize that it's Russian, can't read it at all [16:08] Urchlay: btw, your input sucks :P [16:08] I can recognize russian if it's in cyrillic /o\ [16:08] Camarade_Tux: yeah, I know [16:08] oh, there's non-Cyrillic Russian? I wouldn't recognize that [16:08] Urchlay i dont think most tools can handle NULLs [16:08] no tyet [16:09] well, some can but if they take char* parameters... [16:09] SunTzu: vim can display all these files just fine, but I think I have some extra stuff in .vimrc to make it do that [16:09] k [16:10] or the default vimrc in slackware instals [16:10] lls [16:10] Hello (~Hello@97-127-210-30.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [16:11] Camarade_Tux: almost the first thing I do on a fresh Slackware install is "rm /usr/share/vim/vimrc ; touch /usr/share/vim/vimrc" [16:11] vhann: um.. the remote font isn't relevant in a text session, surely ? [16:11] dont call me shirley [16:11] the default vimrc turns on a bunch of stuff I hate, and my own .vimrc that I use everywhere, already turns on the stuff I actually want [16:11] Urchlay: I like the defaults and I can override with my own serttings anyway [16:11] settings* [16:12] They're better than the windows defaults [16:12] the first thing i do on a fresh, is secure it. [16:12] Camarade_Tux: I never could figure out how to turn off a couple of things... like, auto-commenting... I type a line in a bash script starting with #, I press Enter, and vim "helpfully" inserts a # on the next line. HATE! [16:12] too bad pat refuses [16:12] nix_chix0r (~Hello@97-127-213-144.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:12] kill the o [16:13] adaptr: Yeah, I'm probably wrong. [16:13] [end]o right '# [16:13] Urchlay: right, I'm not a fan of that one but I don't write big shell scripts (if it gets big, it's a sign I should rewrite it in another language) [16:13] vhann: no probolem, I'll keep hacking at it [16:13] Urchlay unless you want the line above then it's O [16:13] Camarade_Tux: my shell scripts often end up with as much comment as code [16:14] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-238-89.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [16:14] SunTzu: eh, I have no desire to exit edit mode and re-enter it *every* time I press Enter in a long comment (it would require changing 20+ years of habit, which I ain't going to do) [16:15] k [16:15] then use a macro [16:15] eh, how about I do what I already do, kill the system vimrc and use my own? [16:16] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [16:17] how about copying to primary clipboard running vim in a ssh session? [16:17] OT but, I want to know [16:17] mtkoan: :set mouse= [16:17] And use the mouse [16:17] Nick change: Invincible -> NaCl [16:18] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:18] console applications (IIRC) can't communicate with the system clipboard directly [16:18] s/system/X [16:18] I have an xclip macro do it on my localbox [16:19] but most of the machines don't even have x libraries [16:19] rome (~nph0rm@pD95906F5.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:19] hi room [16:19] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [16:19] which I ssh too [16:19] s/room/channel/ [16:20] bleeding|edge (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [16:21] SunTzu: sorry, I get kinda religious on the subject of text editors [16:21] urchlay: understandable [16:21] mtkoan: don't have any reliable suggestions w/o X libs [16:21] argh, glxgears is 60fps with radeom KMS [16:22] Use fglrx [16:22] It syncs to vertical refresh rate [16:22] didn't fglrx die several xorg versions ago? [16:23] where have you been? [16:23] mtkoan: Nope, not at all. [16:23] fglrx will be dead soon enough :> [16:23] Not very likely. [16:23] Agreed. [16:23] sadly, I agree. I don't think gallium will really go anywhere [16:24] Well, I guess I'm badly misinformed [16:24] mtkoan: for a while it was terrible, but they fixed it up [16:24] The r300 gallium driver is nearly on par with the classic driver in terms of performance and now supports many more extensions. [16:25] So I really think gallium has a chance of taking off. [16:25] NaCl, meaning, doesn't support latest x.org ? :) [16:25] I am using it in the latest xorg. :P [16:25] It'll likely never compare to fglrx in terms of performance, but it should help narrow the gap. [16:25] adamk, didn't intel recently say they've invested too much into mesa, and won't budge? [16:25] NaCl, you're on x-server 1.8? [16:25] Oh. [16:25] 1.7 [16:25] The one in -current [16:26] thrice`: Yeah, but there are still folks working on the intel gallium driver despite that. [16:26] vmware has a huge incentive to see gallium drivers. [16:26] oh, ok. I didn't think any intel guys were [16:26] I'm not sure anyone from intel is, but that's the great thing about open source :-) [16:26] Nick change: Camarade_Tux -> adrien [16:27] sorry, can anyone help me please? [16:27] what do you need help with? [16:27] only if you ask a question [16:27] You have to actually ask a question :-) [16:27] thanks :) i want to migrate to openNIC [16:27] thrice`: know if anyone in the channel has psychic powers? [16:27] I hope so, for rome's sake :> [16:28] you know http://opennicproject.org [16:28] Action: NaCl doesn't know [16:28] i edited resolv.conf [16:28] added nameserver 217.79.186.148 [16:28] but i can't ping it, can anyone test this?! [16:29] The server is alive [16:29] pings for me as well [16:30] wow.. thunderbird just blindly crashes on me while updating a 24K inbox [16:30] so then why can't i ping reg.for.free ?! [16:30] because the DNS isn't resolving? [16:30] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [16:32] but it should with this dns server [16:33] my provider gives me a dns error [16:33] i can ping it [16:33] but firefox doesn't show page [16:34] do i need to specially set up firefox to use the new dns server? [16:34] no [16:35] sorry, im noob [16:36] the dns used are the ones in /etc/resolv.conf [16:36] The DNS is resolving according to ping [16:36] well, firefox is a bit special but it will eventually get it [16:36] are you using openNIC now too?! [16:36] I mean *eventually* : one day or after a restart [16:37] rome: I just stuck the DNS entry into /etc/resolv.conf [16:37] And pinged it [16:37] I think there is no such address as req.for.free in the OpenNIC space [16:38] now try to access http://grep.geek via firefox or whatever [16:38] Is it resolving for you NaCl? [16:38] reg, not req [16:38] Ah [16:38] alienBOB: it was resolving [16:38] Yes, for me too [16:38] reg.for.free has address 58.6.115.45 [16:38] For me, it is 208.68.139.38 [16:39] Heh [16:39] alienBOB: which nameserver? [16:39] for me 80.156.86.78 [16:39] 217.79.186.148 [16:39] 208.68.139.38 [16:39] That is the nameserver I tried [16:40] http://opennicproject.org/index.php/start-here/51-migrate-to-opennic/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=75:public-dns&catid=51:migrate-to-opennic&Itemid=82 [16:40] there are some other dns servers for your region [16:40] Action: NaCl shrugs [16:40] 208.68.139.38 has no web server running [16:40] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:41] cfdisk (~cfdisk@unaffiliated/cfdisk) joined ##slackware. [16:41] Hmm it has _something_ on port 80 [16:42] alienBOB: Apache 2.2.3 judging from a basic 'HTTP GET' response [16:42] search-com.origin.comcast.akadns.net has address 208.68.139.38 [16:43] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.208) joined ##slackware. [16:44] guys, my question is: can you access any of the websites in the openNIC DNS-net via your browser?! [16:48] the fglrx driver from ati won't build at all with 2.6.33.2 --> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.2&product=2.4.2.3.9&lang=English [16:48] mtkoan: h/o [16:48] Ahh, I see... when kernel developers say 'large numbers of CPUs' they mean 'up to 32768 (for 32-bit systems)'... [16:48] mtkoan: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/running-fglrx-with-current-796669/ [16:49] sorry, h/o = ? [16:49] hold on [16:49] :) [16:49] lol [16:49] mtkoan: you want that URL [16:49] Yes, yes I do [16:50] so I need to be in -current [16:50] Well, just the kernel. [16:51] and xserver 1.7? [16:51] It doesn't need xorg 1.7 [16:51] qneo (knao@adsl-dyn180.78-99-102.t-com.sk) left ##slackware ("good night"). [16:51] But if you are running -current, that's what you have [16:52] Right, I'm not I am on 13 [16:52] It shouldn't matter. [16:52] Actually, if you are not using Xserver 1.7, the driver linked to in that slackbuild will definitely fail. [16:53] adamk: there you go. [16:53] It's a prerelease with only the driver for a newer X server in the tarball. [16:53] Ok well -- best to upgrade to current (after backing up) -- boot in single user and, change mirror, run slackpkg upgrade-all ? [16:54] mtkoan: If you want to use 13.0 with a newer kernel, there is a patch that will get fglrx 10.3 to compile. [16:54] One second. [16:54] is single-user needed? [16:54] adamk: I could use the excuse to bump into current anyway :) [16:55] mtkoan: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=nvHgwbj6 [16:55] Your call. [16:55] bbl. [16:55] Shadowkllr (~chatzilla@c-69-253-22-90.hsd1.de.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539] [16:59] bleeding|edge (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Quit: When music is the weapon, we are all indestructable. [16:59] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [16:59] is it possible that my isp blocks http requests from opennic network? [17:00] Doing a 200 GET via nc to that URL yields a 400 error [17:00] yes; use 4222 and 4223 instead of openNic [17:00] sevens (~sevens@unaffiliated/sevens) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:01] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.14.72) joined ##slackware. [17:02] rome find a better dns than opennic [17:02] NaCl: "200 GET" is not a valid HTTP request [17:02] oh. [17:02] get doesnt take a prefix num [17:02] Action: NaCl facepalms [17:02] try GET / [17:02] Waits a little bit then returns nothing [17:03] nacl read a rfc [17:03] whats wrong with opennic?! [17:03] if its related to opendns, then they do mean things [17:03] ok I'm going to run slackpkg upgrade-all and run for cover [17:03] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-208.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:03] mtkoan: install-new too [17:04] mtkoan SAVE YOUR DATA!!! [17:04] And THAT TOO [17:04] noted :) [17:04] SunTzu what are you talkin bout? [17:04] kk [17:04] mtkoan enjoy and takes notes [17:04] rome nm. (Gilda Radner) [17:04] heh [17:05] nm = nautic mile? [17:05] yes [17:05] and never mind [17:05] never mind, probably [17:05] and you mean Emily Latella [17:06] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@gateway/shell/sign.io/* expired. [17:06] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@gateway/shell/sign.io/*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [17:06] i like the opennic domain-names geek, free, oss etc [17:06] Gilda was a awesome commedienne on _Live from New York, it's Saturday Night_ [17:06] nm was one of her best char taglines [17:06] okay thanks for the info [17:07] yw [17:07] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.14.72) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:08] but whats wrong with opennic now? what do you know?! tell me everything! :) [17:08] i saw some clips of _2nd City_ @Chicago; those folks were highlarious [17:08] rome just that i read some stuff on usenet from some very knowledgable people indicting Vixie etal on some evil having to do with dns [17:09] sure, there is some evil in the world [17:09] no shit :) [17:10] rome: some evil? [17:10] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:10] the regular dns net is wholly commercial [17:11] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:12] rome, welcome to earth [17:12] john_dee (~id@93-81-70-157.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [17:12] i like the idea of an open dns net therefore i want to use opennic [17:13] rome: find me a dns net that isn't commercial,,, [17:13] rome: even the .us domain is commercialized [17:13] v4nelle (~van@ipa230.12.tellas.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:13] what does commercialized mean? [17:13] jewbacca ever heard of geek free oss etc? try this http://opennicproject.org/ [17:13] money-able [17:13] not free [17:14] theres never been a free domain [17:14] the only free dns network i've found was on sw ip [17:14] Skywise, thats what i mean, all domains are for registered for their countries and you have to pay a lot of money to get one registered. not so in opennic [17:14] and there, your domain name was your callsign [17:15] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-71-114-174-121.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:16] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:16] elliot98 (~elliot@109.65.54.197) joined ##slackware. [17:17] elliot98 (~elliot@109.65.54.197) left irc: Changing host [17:17] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) joined ##slackware. [17:17] jafnhar (~jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:18] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:18] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:19] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:21] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [17:22] tkuhp (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [17:22] phukt (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:25] can anyone prove to me, that my isp blocks http requests to opennic?! [17:25] P4C0 (~Paco@cpe-000db902aab0.cpe.cableonda.net) joined ##slackware. [17:26] i have called with them and they sey no, but i don't believe them [17:26] hello, it's been a while since I installed slacwkare, now I see that the default filesystem is ext4? is it a good idea to use it? or I should rather stay with ext3?? [17:26] P4C0 yes use EXT4 [17:27] 4>3 [17:28] manwichmakeameal (~tjones@97.86.29.42) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:28] rome: what's your trouble? I used to run a third-level DNS server for opennic [17:28] lol the technical support from my isp told me to do a hardreset on my router, then i can access the sites again [17:28] anyhow, if you can resolve opennic domains, from there you're good to go... once you have the IP of the server, it doesn't matter where you get your DNS [17:29] mmlj4 it seems my isp blocks http requests to opennic servers [17:29] the tech is an idiot, tell him I said that [17:29] hrhrhr [17:29] it was a woman [17:29] can you ping said site? [17:29] yes [17:29] the only thing I can think if is if your ISP is doing caching [17:30] ping grep.geek ip is 80.156.86.78 [17:30] transparent caching, probably [17:30] if they can't resolve .geek, then your browser can't receive GET requests [17:30] P4C0 (~Paco@cpe-000db902aab0.cpe.cableonda.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:30] ...IF they're doing caching [17:30] how can i change this? [17:31] rome doesn't work here either [17:31] if that's the problem? find an alternate proxy [17:31] surely one of the opennic crowd runs one [17:31] i have none [17:32] i just added the opennic dns nameserver to resolv.conf and now i can ping grep.geek but no brwosing [17:32] wescotte (~wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:32] yes, I understand [17:33] ok, you say, my browser can't handle GET requests [17:33] ?! [17:33] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [17:34] mmlj4 thx ill check that [17:34] lem1 (root@86.81.102.210) left ##slackware. [17:35] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Client Quit [17:36] rome: no [17:37] I'm saying that if your ISP is doing transparent web caching, you aren't going to be able to pull down .opennic pages [17:37] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@n146s188.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net) joined ##slackware. [17:37] IF [17:37] and IF they do, i can bybass this by using a proxy? [17:38] sry i am a newb [17:38] yes [17:38] we were all newbies once [17:38] just don't stay one [17:38] thanks! [17:39] i hope i wont [17:39] r u using opennic? [17:39] i quit years ago [17:39] why? [17:39] if you want a free domain, get a packet radio adapter, and have *callsign*.ampr.org [17:39] after being with the project since its inception [17:40] jewbacca, i'd prefer DynDNS though [17:40] jewbacca: i used to use dhs.org for that [17:40] CcSsNET (~1@c-98-216-179-56.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:40] rome: your newbyness is showing [17:40] Razec (1000@187-27-199-159.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:40] nix_chix0r (~Hello@97-127-213-116.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [17:40] :P [17:41] hey randomly extreamly specific question. anyone know if the trident driver in slackware 13 actually works. the trident driver in debian is outdated and no good. [17:41] here's a hint; go to tldp.org and read the net-4 howto, and if you're bored, the network admin guide [17:41] any rfcs to read? [17:42] sure, why not? [17:42] i am reading another Linux book right now [17:42] it seems to be quite good [17:43] Hello (~Hello@97-127-210-30.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:43] it is written by Plötner & Wendzel [17:44] I bet that book doesn't even have a name [17:44] Linux - Das umfassende Handbuch [17:45] it is in german =) [17:45] I see that [17:46] http://www.galileocomputing.de/katalog/buecher/titel/gp/titelID-2224?GalileoSession=19952961A4.de8.yY7E [17:46] btw thx for your advice mmlj4 [17:47] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) joined ##slackware. [17:49] ahhh you can even read it here http://openbook.galileocomputing.de/linux/ for free [17:49] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [17:49] ok well ill be testing the trident driver in a few minutes ill let you all know the outcome. [17:50] Linux: The Unwritten Manual? [17:50] Or is that supposed to be one of those "Missing Manual" books? 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[19:30] Hello, I am having trouble using the tint2 slackbuild [19:30] yeah im readling up on it and solr right now [19:31] For some reason gcc says unknown option -O2 [19:31] although that works fine for all the other slackbuilds [19:31] tin2 is nice, do you have imlib2 installed? [19:32] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:33] yup [19:33] In fact I was using previous versions of tint2 fine [19:33] and slackbuilds [19:34] I havent removed anything from my system [19:34] and it doesnt complain that anything is missing [19:36] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:38] LnxSlck (~LnxSlck@bl4-217-15.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:39] anyone with an nvidia card? the install program isn't able to find my kernel sources? [19:39] ravigehlot (~ravigehlo@216.189.209.126) joined ##slackware. [19:40] kernel headers are needed [19:40] Is it possible to user my scanner on a shared environment. The scanner is not a network scanner though. But we would like to use it as such [19:42] CcSsNET, i have them [19:42] CcSsNET, at least i think so. how can i check that? [19:43] you simply dont [19:43] that IS your error [19:44] when nvidia searches for kernel sources its looking for the kernel headers. so as for slackware specific method ask someone else. otherwise build a new kernel [19:45] CcSsNET, but i never had problems with nvidia-installer until now [19:45] i have no other advice [19:45] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:46] AusLoki are you using ccache or some other caching front end to gcc? [19:47] caixabox_ (~bd571432@gateway/web/freenode/x-oyqwwtsxfwgcjyfy) left irc: Quit: Page closed [19:53] Niksoni (~Niksoni@cable-94-189-146-88.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: [19:57] Nick change: initself -> camelia [19:58] Nick change: camelia -> initself [19:58] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:00] LnxSlck: you can use "ls /var/log/packages | grep kernel" to tell what packages you have installed related to the kernel. [20:00] make sure you have the headers and the source I beleive [20:01] just the headers is enough. otherwise the source can provide headers once compiled [20:01] andarius, yes i have kernel headers and source... i'm trying to install by slackbuilds [20:01] SunTzu: nope [20:02] not that I know off [20:03] v4nelle (~van@ipa230.12.tellas.gr) joined ##slackware. [20:03] Reav_ (~Sarge@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:03] LnxSlck (~LnxSlck@bl4-217-15.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:06] last I checked headers alone is not enough [20:08] well obviosly they need to be specificly for the kernel in use. cant even be from a similiar one [20:08] but thats all [20:09] o and the kernel has to allow modules. but thats common now adays [20:10] take my advice i have built a linux from scratch entirely. but its not public [20:10] assuming a slackware kernel is being used all that will be fine as long as the noted packages are present. guess the real question is what kernel is being used and what is the exact error [20:10] elemenohpee (~rafenator@cpe-70-95-94-27.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:13] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [20:14] yea i dont use slackware just like the convo's here. so as for the specific methods for slack packages cant help them [20:18] P4C0 (~paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) joined ##slackware. [20:19] elemenohpee (~rafenator@cpe-70-95-94-27.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: [20:22] hello, I'm trying to install slackware 13 on a desktop pc, but it's not going ok, I don't have anything inside /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ modules thermal, processor, thermal_sys and kwmon are loaded [20:25] AusLoki (~TheSecret@c-69-141-34-70.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:25] ravigehlot (ravigehlo@216.189.209.126) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:26] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [20:28] did you do a full installation? [20:28] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [20:29] Suhana (~vash@host217-42-44-229.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Imma outta here [20:29] sahk0: yes [20:29] kwmon or hwmon [20:30] hwmon [20:30] Mine's empty on one of my machines. [20:30] Never really thought about it, though. [20:30] lm_sensors? [20:32] Meh. Never used them :-) [20:33] Perhaps your hardware just isn't supported by the modules. [20:33] also my cpu is 3ghz and in proc/cpuinfo it shows as 800mhz [20:33] Well that seems like a bigger issue :-) [20:33] yes, unfortunatly [20:33] Tried a different/newer kernel? [20:34] adamk: in the bios I can set it, but it's set to ondemand, thing is that I have no idea if acpi should control that (like a laptop) or if it is done automatically [20:38] detecting AMD K10 thermal sensors... Success! (driver 'to-be-written') [20:38] lol [20:38] echo "3GHz" > /proc/cpuinfo [20:39] mancha: ? [20:40] mancha: heh [20:41] hey guys o/ [20:41] http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/4/1/168 [20:41] anyone know where to get kbluetooth or blueman packages? [20:41] phrags: rworkman has some [20:42] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:42] with updated bluez 4 [20:42] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: seeking uber lazyness [20:42] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) joined ##slackware. [20:42] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/bluez-4-x-in-current-20100303-a-792878/ [20:46] damnit userstyles.org is still borked [20:46] has anyone ug'd to openssl 1.0? [20:47] what's the kernel on -current? [20:47] .33 i b'lieve [20:47] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:48] thanks [20:48] hugohagogo (~cleber@187.64.38.210) joined ##slackware. [20:48] nope, my bad. .33.2 [20:49] something changed in pat's mindset regarding kernels, he's a quicker to upgrade as of some months back...he used to lag a lot more...anyone else notice this? [20:49] Nick change: initself -> camilia [20:50] Nick change: camilia -> initself [20:50] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [20:50] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) joined ##slackware. [20:51] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:51] i was surprised to see .33 as its not an lts kernel like .29. iirc fedora and ubuntu will ship .32 [20:52] something certainly changed in terms of his view towards kernels [20:52] CcSsNET (1@c-98-216-179-56.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [20:52] well, a few bugs to fix, but overrall uprgrade -current is great success [20:54] hmm .29 isnt either .27 is [20:54] sahk0, slackware doesn't play the "backport it all" game so i don't think it makes sense for slack to stick to LTS kernels [20:55] hugohagogo (~cleber@187.64.38.210) left irc: Quit: Elvis has left the building [20:55] fedora is on 2.6.33.2 in f13 at the moment [20:55] slack, with one exception i can think of ships vanilla kernel source, which means latest is a good policy [20:55] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:55] yeah fedora's kernel is probably gonna be .33 + .34git [20:55] I think the pulled in .34's drm stuff [20:56] right it'll be enterprise linuxes that'll be .32 [20:57] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@p3m/member/epoch expired. [20:57] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@p3m/member/epoch' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [20:57] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) joined ##slackware. [20:58] .34 is exciting and it's just around th corner, i bet we don't see many more rc's [21:01] hi [21:03] Emeau (~kvirc@AMontsouris-158-1-99-88.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net [21:04] tohtis (~tohtis@189.73.21.90) joined ##slackware. [21:04] xsamurai (~munki@pool-108-13-97-246.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:05] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-70-28-46.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:07] lets play a game. guess to what jkwood is replying to : http://lists.slackbuilds.org/pipermail/slackbuilds-users/2010-April/005531.html [21:07] my guess is to the SBo ML footer [21:07] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:08] jkwood FAIL [21:08] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:09] tohtis (tohtis@189.73.21.90) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [21:09] it was just a very recent but good example [21:12] ML footer? [21:14] http://www.sandiego.edu/webdev/discussions/mailman/footer.php [21:16] joke right? [21:17] Zozma (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:18] i guess so, but the joke's on the reader [21:19] he's referring to the md5 on the skype binary before and after passing through the build script [21:19] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) joined ##slackware. [21:19] hello all [21:19] please someone help me [21:19] :) [21:19] ok :) :) [21:19] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) joined ##slackware. [21:20] thrice` here? [21:20] :} [21:20] what gave it away? [21:20] no, over there --> [21:20] Zozma (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:21] When I try to install Slackware 13.0 from DVD ISO boot when i write cfdisk.. [21:21] fatal error logical partitions .. [21:21] i have one 70 gb partition ext3 [21:21] specify the block, eg cfdisk /dev/sda [21:21] and one 9 gb swap partition [21:21] how? [21:22] your keyboard [21:22] 9gb swap, my goodness [21:22] Razec (1000@187-27-199-159.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:22] guax (~guax@201-25-243-115.fnsce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:22] guax (~guax@201-25-243-115.fnsce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Changing host [21:22] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [21:22] only cfdisk /dev/sda nothing else? [21:22] Zozma_ (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:22] ok, you already have partitions you want to use? [21:22] brb to try [21:23] yo slackware people [21:23] :} [21:23] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:23] o____O [21:23] yo [21:23] v4nelle (~van@ipa230.12.tellas.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:23] thrice` i go to try [21:23] i reboot now [21:23] :} [21:23] slow down :> [21:23] speed up :D [21:23] are you saying you have partitions ready to go already? [21:23] i have 2x2gb corsair dominator 1066 mhz ddr-2 [21:23] :D [21:23] i don't need 9 gb swap [21:23] Channel flood from ne7work -- kicking [21:23] :D [21:23] ne7work kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [21:23] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) joined ##slackware. [21:23] ok, then you can use cfdisk to redo them :) [21:24] but yes, if the disk is /dev/sda, do "cfdisk /dev/sda" and the error should go away. if not, come back and yell at us :) [21:24] Zozma (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:24] thrice` but only cfdisk / dev / sda you should write or mention something or it will write out my shares? [21:25] cfdisk is interactive, so you tell it what to do [21:25] ok [21:25] i go to write [21:26] cfdisk /dev/sda [21:26] and coming back :) tnx :} [21:26] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) left irc: [21:26] only if /dev/sda is your disk, of course [21:27] canjica (~canjica@187.40.185.164) joined ##slackware. [21:28] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [21:29] canjica (~canjica@187.40.185.164) left irc: Client Quit [21:29] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [21:29] canjica (~canjica@187.40.185.164) joined ##slackware. [21:30] canjica (canjica@187.40.185.164) left ##slackware. [21:30] canjica (~canjica@187.40.185.164) joined ##slackware. [21:33] so, ext4 is stable now? [21:34] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:37] P4C0: Slack defaults to it == stable, in my book. :) Seriously, I've been using it without special problems and haven't heard horrible things since the lossage reports early on. [21:37] What am I doing wrong? [21:37] When i do su -c "echo $HOME" myuser [21:37] it shows /root [21:37] when I'm expecting /home/myuser [21:37] slakmagik: nice :) thanks [21:37] welcome [21:40] goj|ghost (~goj@p4FE6E1CD.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:42] Interesting. [21:42] su user -c "whoami" works as expected [21:42] su -c "whoami" user [21:42] doesnt [21:43] first will show "user", second will show "root" [21:44] goj (~goj@p4FE6E716.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:44] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:44] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:47] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:51] tkuhp (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) left irc: [21:51] har (~harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:53] loch_ (~dca354f3@gateway/web/freenode/x-hsvgvfshjwqpwyrf) joined ##slackware. [21:53] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:53] Nick change: loch_ -> esom [21:54] Nick change: initself -> camelia [21:55] Nick change: camelia -> initself [21:56] hi [21:57] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) joined ##slackware. [21:57] thrice` how to start graphic enviorment? [21:57] it is only console? [21:57] when i reboot [21:57] after install ? [21:57] startx should work [21:58] /etc/inittab tells which runlevel to start. runlevel 4 will start xdm / kdm [21:58] otherwise, just login and use 'startx' [21:58] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:58] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:58] now ? login and startx? [21:58] login.. root and my pass [21:58] and startx [21:58] ? [21:59] thrice` only login and write startx? [21:59] I wouldn't advise using X as root [21:59] mm [21:59] how to create my username [21:59] not root well for example ne7work? [22:00] this is what I always do I type this "useradd -m -G users,power,audio,video -s /bin/bash ne7work" [22:00] ok, your question limit is up. you must now read the slackbook at slackbook.org [22:00] P4C0 (~paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) left irc: Quit: out [22:01] that will make the user ne7work [22:01] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [22:01] then you have to add a password for it, so after you type that in, do "passwd ne7work" [22:02] and then it will ask for a password [22:02] well [22:02] i write useradd -m -G users,power,audio,video -s /bin/bash ne7work [22:02] and [22:02] passwd ne7work [22:02] Channel flood from ne7work -- kicking [22:02] ? [22:02] ne7work kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [22:02] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) joined ##slackware. [22:02] lol [22:02] ne7work, type "adduser" , and follow the directions [22:03] sry [22:03] and seriously, read the slackbook [22:03] i go to try [22:03] ok [22:03] i'm bulgarian [22:03] and my english not so good [22:03] :( [22:03] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) left irc: [22:05] hi [22:05] Hi guys, i have recently upgraded my Slackware64-current and im having a problem when kdm starts i don't have mouse or keyboard i have tried reinstalling xf86 drivers but nothing change [22:05] any idea? [22:05] i guess that's a good excuse for not reading the slackbook [22:05] someone there? [22:05] hmm [22:06] acidtripper, you should know how IRC works by now [22:06] have you tried not using kde? [22:06] lol, the problem is that im using a wifi service which block some ports [22:06] so i don't know if im connected [22:06] it disconnected several times [22:07] thrice`: [22:10] alright, how did you update to -current acidtripper ? [22:12] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:12] did you run xwmconfig after the update, I don't know if that would help or not just throwing things out [22:14] slackpkg upgrade-all [22:15] slackpkg install-new [22:15] and then reinstalled xf86-input files [22:15] but can't use keyboard yet [22:16] you didn't do the clean-system ? [22:17] Are hal and dbus running? [22:17] Does /var/log/Xorg.0.log show any errors regarding input devices? [22:18] the only thing you really should need is hald to be running, and xf86-input-evdev to be installed [22:18] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) joined ##slackware. [22:18] please help me to configure pppoe connection under slackware [22:18] thrice` please man in ubuntu is sudo pppoeconf username and password is it all [22:18] how to in slackware? :( [22:19] replace sudo with "su" ? [22:20] i try with root accaunt [22:20] with root [22:20] i try with [22:20] pppoeconf [22:20] and nothing [22:21] ne7work: pppsetup? [22:21] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:21] esom and? [22:21] where write my username and password for internet [22:21] ? [22:22] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:22] Action: thrice` gives up [22:22] esom? [22:22] i go to write pppsetup :( [22:22] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) left irc: Client Quit [22:23] ne7work: pppsetup is the script to configure pppoe [22:26] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-70-28-46.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:28] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) joined ##slackware. [22:29] AusLoki (~TheSecret@c-69-141-34-70.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:29] i need PPPoE no ppp [22:29] i don't know how to configure internet connection with PPPoE [22:29] please someone help me :( [22:29] ne7work: take a look into /etc/ppp [22:29] esom and? [22:29] when i write pppsetup [22:30] want some phone number? [22:30] ne7work: read these files [22:30] give link/ [22:30] which slackware package has the xlib libary for python? [22:30] ? [22:31] I'm trying to run a python app, which complains that there is no module xlib [22:32] ne7work: read files int /etc/ppp/ [22:32] ne7work: in* [22:32] where it? [22:32] in slackbook.org? [22:33] esom? [22:33] ne7work: terminal [22:34] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) left irc: [22:35] anyone? [22:37] AlexElliott_ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:38] AlexElliott (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:39] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:43] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:43] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:43] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. 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[23:26] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-34.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:26] heya,folks [23:27] hi [23:27] i just installed slackware [23:27] but it wont boot [23:28] it will say operating system not found [23:28] am i missing something? [23:29] heya,near...do you know which partition you installed slackware to? [23:29] yes [23:29] sda2 [23:30] i can mount it and it will bring up a root directory with a copyright file [23:32] near, what are you using to mount it? the slackware cd? [23:32] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [23:32] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) joined ##slackware. [23:33] hey [23:33] here i'm reseted router and now all goes fine [23:33] yes [23:33] i upgraded yesterday [23:34] heya,acidtripper...good to hear...router on its last leg? [23:36] near, is slackware the only installation on your hard drive? [23:36] yes [23:36] its a vm [23:36] ping www.google.com [23:36] zmisc (zachary@pdpc/supporter/student/zmisc) joined ##slackware. [23:37] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [23:38] near, which vm program? [23:38] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) joined ##slackware. [23:38] now? [23:38] someone there? [23:39] No [23:39] acidtripper, meant to say..was the router on its last leg with the previous firmware? [23:40] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) left irc: Client Quit [23:40] vmware [23:41] echelon: ldd shows everything right [23:41] but trying to run a tiny app states no module xlib found [23:42] veritos (~koenig@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:43] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) joined ##slackware. [23:43] Hi there! [23:43] i think i forwarded ports [23:43] !topic [23:44] oh, that's a module [23:44] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) left irc: Client Quit [23:45] AusLoki, http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/python-xlib/ [23:45] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) joined ##slackware. [23:46] Met another Slacker at LinuxFest Northwest today. This made me happy. [23:46] :) [23:46] Sadly, we seem a rare bunch up here :( [23:47] I want to go to southeast linux fest and meet some slackers [23:47] what do they do at these places? [23:48] chat about linux [23:48] Had a bunch of talks [23:48] Guy from Hurricane Electric came out and evangelised IPv6 [23:48] can't they do that on irc? [23:48] echelon: they also BBQ'd for us. [23:48] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) left irc: Client Quit [23:48] HE isn't bad [23:48] can't give FOOD over irc [23:48] ah, nice [23:48] hard to get schwag over IRC [23:48] echelon: thanks [23:48] heh [23:49] np [23:49] every now and then, people might want to see other people.. crazy, I know [23:49] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) joined ##slackware. [23:49] (also, booze) [23:49] stickers and propaganda [23:50] I think I want to pay the money to get a shirt, too [23:50] I need more geeky shirts :D [23:51] Okay, serious question now. Y'all know if it's possible to set up a routing table with separate default gateways for IPv4 and IPv6 traffic? [23:51] near, what was your last step before you reset vm? did you set lilo to see sda2? [23:51] i didint set a bootloader [23:51] i deleted the partition [23:51] created a new one [23:52] no swap [23:52] and installing it again xD [23:53] veritos, yes. [23:53] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:53] it would have to be separate [23:54] echelon: perhaps I should have read the route(8) man page. First listed option is `-A', the one that I want. [23:55] yeah, just need to specify inet6 [23:55] Sweet...that was pathetically simple [23:56] :) [23:56] are you using a broker? [23:56] Gulug (old-times@134-100-73-76.ipv4.gulug.com.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:56] near, ok [23:57] echelon: signed up for HE, but they make you wait a day [23:57] Gulug (old-times@134-100-73-76.ipv4.gulug.com.br) joined ##slackware. [23:57] ah, i use freenet6 [23:57] echelon: doesn't look like rc.inet1.conf supports it; just shove a bunch of commands in rc.local for now? [23:58] not sure, i never configured it with inet1.conf [23:59] http://ipv6.internode.on.net/ broker what broker ... 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