[00:00] it's absolutely amazing lol [00:00] ErikaHayley (n=ErikaHay@74.226.236.167) joined ##slackware. [00:01] hologram (n=hologram@68.228.56.113) left irc: "leaving" [00:01] sbopkg can be used to install all packages available on slackbuilds.org? [00:01] yes [00:01] yes [00:01] hologram (n=hologram@ip68-228-56-113.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:01] it works like pkgtool [00:01] how can i install Bus 002 Device 007: ID 045e:00f5 Microsoft Corp. LifeCam VX-3000 ? [00:01] if you didnt know about sbopkg like me until recently have you noticed slackpkg? i just recently found them both [00:01] you dont even have to go to slackbuilds.org [00:01] and i tried everything i have in kernel (2.6.31.6) all gspca* by and nothing it [00:01] .. shows me black and white and smashed screen... [00:02] its like an emerge? it download and build the slackbuild? [00:02] jeronimo_: try asking #linux [00:02] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [00:02] do i have to set arch and those things before? [00:02] no you dont have to set arch [00:03] it automatically does x86_64 [00:03] gm152 (n=gm@216.121.165.129) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:03] it's nice man [00:04] ok couse the pacakge i downloaded is sbo_noarch [00:04] acidtripper: wtf? emerge? [00:04] kinda :P [00:04] now its syncing [00:05] _400theCat (n=as@cm40.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) left irc: Client Quit [00:05] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [00:05] you can set your arch if you like in the slackbuild. [00:05] it takes a long time as i see, its downloading every slackbuild? [00:05] yeah but sbopkg does arch for you as long as you have it set in your build environment (which i think it is default x86_64 on slack64) [00:05] acidtripper: [00:05] ^ [00:05] it downloads every slackbuild? [00:05] no man it doesn't download the slackbuilds [00:05] no dood [00:06] when sync [00:06] it just downloads the repository list [00:06] but slackpkg do it in a sole archive and this is making in detail [00:07] slackpkg doesn't give you access to slackbuild.org's repositories though [00:07] i know that, does sbopkg resolve dependencies? [00:07] i dunno. i doubt it. [00:07] OddtheCat (n=oddtheca@173-9-254-98-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:07] it's still awesome though. [00:07] LitesterB (n=Litester@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [00:08] yes, now its downloading gparted lets see how it goes [00:08] gtkmm needed [00:08] get gtkmm then [00:08] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-56-142.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:09] then ? you mean i can continue building with missing dependencies? [00:09] i can make a queue of building [00:09] printf "libsigc++\nglibmm\ncairomm\npangomm\ngtkmm\ngparted\n" > gparted.sqf [00:10] and then use that :) [00:10] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:11] milf [00:11] jump from a plane...lol [00:12] jump a milf on a plane. [00:12] good evening [00:12] mile high milf! [00:12] Evenin',mfillpot [00:12] while falling from a plane could be really interesting [00:12] good evening MLanden [00:12] jump out of a plane from a mile high with a milf, naked [00:12] mature [00:12] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-155-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:13] I just like our pointless conversations, and damn it too many people here have dirty minds [00:13] I'd do it. I'd do it right now. Let's go. Give me a plane and a milf. [00:13] antiwire: makes me think of one of Carlin's montages on sports..lol [00:13] hahah [00:13] have any of you guys played openarena? [00:13] akrz: yes [00:13] it's awesome isn't it? :D [00:13] I rock the rail gun on wrackdm17 [00:14] railgun rocks hah :) i wonder if there are any freeze rail servers? [00:14] set queues order, like 1,2,etc lets see how it goes [00:14] i was surprised about the new graphics, they dont look bad considering [00:14] new graphics? was anew version of openarena released? [00:15] i mean, it has 'new' graphics compared to quake3 [00:15] can i use 2 locales for debian one for x and one for console? [00:15] plaing openarena? [00:15] dont like world of padman? [00:15] I just play urbanterror [00:16] i dont like urbanterror much tbh [00:16] True Combat: Elite is good though [00:16] you have to get enemy territory for it though [00:16] i have Wop installed, but nobody plays, only bots :( [00:16] I miss playing enemy territory, but it doesn't want to work on my monitor [00:17] True Combat is better than ET [00:17] it's alot like battlefield 2, except it doesnt have vehicles [00:17] 600x480,mfillpot or lower? [00:18] MLanden: my monitor can't do 60hz [00:18] jeronimo_ (n=ghost@78.90.113.108) left irc: "There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count & those who can't." [00:18] har (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:18] i would like to play America's Army again, but i didnt like the updates they added to it [00:18] MLanden: and the linux version of WT requires 60hz, the windows version is more versatile [00:18] now it's too realistic and isnt any fun [00:19] is there still a Linux version of AA? [00:19] yeah [00:19] Action: BP{k} has played ET on 1280x1024 @ 85 :P [00:19] mfillpot: ok [00:19] hologram (n=hologram@ip68-228-56-113.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:19] Savage 2 is a pretty good game [00:19] it's hard though [00:20] ty BP, I will check my video card and monitor to see if I can do that res and freq [00:20] morbid_ (n=joe@75-25-116-23.lightspeed.sjcpca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:20] we were just bowling on the wii here, it was pretty fun [00:20] i love wii bowling [00:20] and wii golf is just as good as real golf. [00:20] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [00:20] i want to play punchout for the wii, but i dont have a wii :( [00:21] i have punchout on my iphone [00:21] twolf: that sports game is oddly replayable [00:21] eviljames: yep [00:21] have they released metroid prime for the wii yet? i bet that's fun [00:21] I like to get down with mario kart too [00:22] hell yeah, mario kart is another must-have. have you tried the new super mario bros? if so, is it anywhere near as good as the first one for NES? [00:22] SBo and people which help on slackbuilds as rlworkman, more.. did an excellent work! [00:23] eviljames: I want to get it, it was gone at wallyworld when I was there a few weeks ago [00:23] rbworman* [00:23] acidtripper: agreed, you should tell them so in #slackbuilds [00:23] acidtripper: slackbuilders are powered by beer and naked women. You know what to do. [00:23] or buy us beer. ;) [00:23] i think the SNR is somewhat better there. [00:24] BP{k}: I am downloading wolf ET again to see if I can run it with a modified res [00:24] lol :P, probably i'll donate some money to pat or buy some things from shop [00:24] they did slackware more usable, and i a very good way, i mean you get your apps compilled [00:24] good plan [00:24] ET should work at higher resolutions; i've played TC:E at 1440x900 and it's a mod for ET [00:25] ;) [00:25] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: "Leaving" [00:25] mfillpot: I just fired it up and it ran at 1600x1200 @ 75 .. so .. :) [00:25] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [00:27] has anyone ever encountered this error on compile? [00:27] /usr/lib/libGL.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format [00:27] i've tried editing the script and such, but i dont have enough knowledge to get around it [00:27] google doesnt give me much help either [00:28] akrz: What is producing that error for you? [00:28] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.27.164) joined ##slackware. [00:28] setted arch? [00:28] pcsx-df [00:28] couse as i see is reading on /usr/lib, and must read from /lib64 [00:28] or im bad? [00:29] Zordrak: yay. [00:29] yeah i've set the arch and such, i've even edited the script to try and force it to look at /usr/lib64, but it just doesn't do it [00:29] akrz: is this a slackbuild? [00:30] yes it is - but i get the same error when i try to use automake and friends with the sources from the pcsx-df site [00:30] straight from pat's keyboard, he isnt anti-PAM, hes just anti-making things more complicated than they need to be [00:30] akrz, did ARCH=x86_64 ./whatever.Slackbuild? [00:30] the time will come for PAM [00:31] yeah ive tried that acidtripper it isn't that simple [00:31] i see.. [00:31] i've also edited the slackbuild script to include; LDFLAGS="-L/usr/lib${LIBDIRSUFFIX}" \ [00:32] but that doesn't help either [00:32] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-67-191-58-46.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:33] Ziggy- (n=krotz@85-220-7-29.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) left irc: Success [00:33] gparted installed, but i have to umount partitions, can that be possible if im using / [00:33] say what? [00:33] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [00:34] nothing is not possible, i will have to start from livecd if a want to resize my / [00:34] acidtripper: whoa now. Do not use gparted on an active root partition. [00:34] lols [00:34] no kidding [00:34] I don't even think it will let you, hopefully. [00:35] a few things are not possible, like traveling at the speed of light [00:35] no :P its not possible [00:35] but starting from livecd i would not have so much trouble i think [00:36] the gparted livecd is designed exactly for this situation. [00:36] yea lol [00:36] i think ubuntu cd comes with gparted and i have some of it used as poster so :P i will try with [00:38] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:38] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-155-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:38] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:39] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [00:39] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:40] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [00:41] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: "Leaving" [00:42] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. 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[00:47] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [00:47] I'm out to test on slack-13 32-bit, enjoy everyone [00:48] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [00:48] later,mfillpot [00:49] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:49] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:51] Rachael (n=nnnnnnnn@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:52] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [00:54] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:56] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. 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[03:44] hey slack brothers [03:46] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-1.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:46] gutts (n=gutts@ALyon-152-1-47-72.w83-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:48] hoho (n=hooh@190.80.250.117) joined ##slackware. [03:50] hey dios_mio [03:51] hey dios_mio [03:53] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:53] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:53] greetings [03:53] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [03:57] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [03:58] can anyone tell me how to specify libraries when doing a ./configure [03:58] ? [03:58] hwk_ (n=hwk@CPE-124-181-83-5.lns9.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [03:58] ferdna: what's the error? [03:59] karuna, i am trying to install enlightenmen [03:59] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: "leaving" [03:59] so, what library you need? [03:59] IMLIB2 [03:59] and i need to tell ./configure where it is [03:59] how can i do this? [03:59] IMLIB2_CFLAGS [03:59] IMLIB2_LIBX [04:00] despiron (n=1986saul@187.64.21.199) left irc: Client Quit [04:00] you have installed imlib2, right? [04:00] yes [04:01] libraries are here: /usr/local/lib [04:01] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/imlib2/ [04:01] karuna, yeah, it is already installed [04:01] hwk (n=hwk@CPE-124-181-83-5.lns9.win.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:03] cricket[b] (i=cricket@ip98-164-87-51.no.no.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:03] IMLIB2_CFLAGS=/usr/local/lib/include/Imlib2.h [04:04] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [04:04] IMLIB2_CFLAGS="-I/usr/local/lib/include/Imlib2.h" [04:06] I have a vsftpd server configured for SSL and a rsa OpenSSL certificate is generated (privkey.pem). Where do I find the pubkey or how do let users to connect securely? [04:06] agris3 (n=agris@213.226.141.169) joined ##slackware. [04:06] karuna, thank you that did it [04:06] ChArLoK_16 (n=kml@188.247.6.248) left irc: "leaving" [04:06] however i got a diff path [04:06] :) [04:06] slackie (n=x@87.196.233.0) left irc: "Papaver Somniferum" [04:08] hmmm we have ldpanel and fbpanel in sbopkg but not pypanel :( [04:11] hiptobecubic: really? http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=pypanel&sv= :P [04:11] Dick soup! how did i miss it [04:11] not available for slackware13 [04:12] ah because it's not for 13, yeah [04:12] why not? [04:12] I guess the porting is trivial though [04:12] Azeotrope: what do you mean by 'where do i find pubkey'? [04:13] you generate a certificate request, then you sign it. that's how you get your pubkey [04:13] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [04:13] It looks like a one line change to the slackbuild is all it needs [04:14] ananke: i only genereated the cert to encrupt the traffic and to learn some more. i don't have any CA [04:15] andreas-- (n=andy@unaffiliated/slacky) joined ##slackware. [04:15] Azeotrope: you still need to sign it, even if it's by yourself. i suggest googling for 'how to generate self signed cert' [04:17] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [04:17] cobra-the-joker (n=cobra@41.196.99.182) joined ##slackware. [04:18] Hey there guys . [04:19] hwk_ (n=hwk@CPE-124-181-83-5.lns9.win.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:19] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. 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[04:27] hoho (n=hooh@190.80.250.117) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [04:28] ferdna: pastie.org [04:28] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:28] ok [04:29] hmmmm, ddrescue is sloooooow =/ [04:29] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:30] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:36] karuna, i couldn't copy and paste the text... it is in a virtual box... [04:36] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:36] here is the screnshot [04:36] http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6987/enlighterror1.png [04:36] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) joined ##slackware. [04:38] ferdna: are you sure imlib2 has been correctly installed? [04:38] ferdna: looks like a header file problem [04:38] yes i am pretty sure it is installed [04:38] how can i verify? [04:38] ferdna: since you have recurring problem with imlib, i suggest you use ready package out ther [04:39] such as slacky.eu [04:39] ok [04:41] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:42] agris4 (n=agris@213.226.141.169) joined ##slackware. [04:43] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [04:44] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:44] join #vnc [04:46] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:46] gutts (n=gutts@86.206.70.83) joined ##slackware. [04:49] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-kqljfrwdzpygwkaa) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [04:50] agris5 (n=agris@213.226.141.169) joined ##slackware. [04:52] Morn [04:53] afternoon [04:53] agris4 (n=agris@213.226.141.169) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [04:54] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [04:59] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [05:01] elliot98 (n=elliot@81.218.31.1) joined ##slackware. [05:02] Nick change: elliot98 -> RPMcmurphy [05:03] karuna, it worked... [05:03] i installed from http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/imlib2/ [05:03] and it worked [05:03] no compile errors now [05:04] so you must somehow mangle imlib :) [05:06] ChArLoK_16 (n=kml@188.247.7.70) joined ##slackware. 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[05:10] fedna: edit $HOME/.dmrc [05:11] Camarade_Tux, nope, i installed from source [05:11] ferdna, slackbuilds are fto [05:11] from source [05:12] ferdna: besides what straterra said, you'd have had this file: http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/13.0/desktop/enlightenment/xinitrc.enlightenment17 [05:12] I guess you can still use it though [05:12] ferdna, don't reinvent the wheel. use slackbuilds ;) [05:12] i got it [05:12] and it would have appeared in xmwconfig [05:13] ferdna: where have you installed e*? /usr/local? also, what about the dependencies? [05:13] you could also just pastebin the error [05:13] yes to, /usr/local [05:13] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:13] instead of us guessing [05:14] RPMcmurphy: : I would want to do the same thing : any answer ? [05:15] ferdna: you can try to copy the file I linked to to /etc/X11/xinit [05:15] ferdna: and then, run xwmconfig [05:17] does anyone here know how to get irssi to hilight " nick " but not "nick" [05:18] nargon (i=root@217.194.139.22) joined ##slackware. [05:18] hi i downloaded et131xß1.2.3 but could not get it to compile on slacware 13 [05:18] can anzone help me enable mz et131 eth card on mz laptop _ [05:20] ugh. Can anyone check http://plugin.org.uk/ (it times out for me) [05:20] doworjustme.com [05:20] downorjustme.com * [05:21] right, but right now not in a mood to trust a computer's opinion... [05:21] nargon: qwertz keyboard? :D [05:21] in germanz to alyz to look at the kezboard [05:22] Urchlay: down for me to [05:22] Urchlay: how do you know we're not all bots? [05:22] o [05:22] nargon: where do you download it from? [05:22] you can't *all* be bots... er, can you? [05:22] Urchlay: only slackboy isn't -_- [05:23] (and me, I'm actually a zombie :) ) [05:23] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.13.202) joined ##slackware. [05:23] Tux got it from http://sourceforge.net/projects/et131x/files/et131x-1.2.3%20Source/%5BUnnamed%20release%5D/et131x-1.2.3.tar.gz/download [05:23] Urchlay: i dont know if i could pass the turing test.... [05:23] Action: Urchlay prays to St. Turing... O Great Saint, grant me the power to halt all these evil bots! [05:23] brainzzzzzzz :) [05:24] nargon: which slackware release? [05:24] tux 13 [05:24] heh, distfiles.gentoo.org seems broken too. All I want is to download swh-plugins-0.4.15.tar.gz from *somewhere* and I don't care where [05:25] hi all. at Nov 6 2009 in slackware current the package Phonon 4.3.1 was removed. slackpkg clean-system does not list this package. i've checked with pkgtool and it is still installed. [05:25] nargon: I think you don't need that kernel module, the driver is available in the kernel, do you have kernel-sources installed? [05:25] przemoc (n=przemoc@89.72.161.94) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [05:25] przemoc (n=przemoc@89.72.161.94) joined ##slackware. [05:25] OclkdMan: it was readded later on [05:27] GridEngine is go! :) [05:27] pprkut: ok. i haven't seen it. so slackpkg clean-system also work for official removed pkgs and not only for unofficial installed pkgs? [05:27] Now if only it could function as a beowulf [05:28] I want to make my /dev/sda available for another computer on my network, how can I do it? [05:29] as a pure block device or just the contents? [05:29] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.13.202) left irc: "Leaving" [05:29] rfdrew (n=rfdrew@217-9-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. [05:29] heh, took longer to find a mirror that had the file, than it did to download it [05:30] (in fact I think it took longer to find a mirror than it did to compile it, too) [05:30] tux zes i have source what do i do _ [05:31] nargon: as root, cd to /usr/src/linux and run "make menuconfig" [05:31] Zordrak: just the contents would be too easy for Camarade_Tux :P [05:31] pprkut: have to ask... never knowm [05:32] hehe [05:32] then, go to "Device Drivers", press enter -> Staging drivers (it's almost the last on), press space, press enter, unselect the "exclude staging drivers" (space) and select your card (first one in the list I think) [05:32] As with all problems.. the question is not what are you trying to do right now.. but what is the end result you are trying to achieve. Never tackle the immediate problem.. tackle the whole solution at once [05:32] Zordrak: as a block device ;-) [05:32] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [05:32] as ^ .. why? [05:33] I'd need the MBR too but I don't want the whole disk as it'd be far too long [05:33] pprkut: ;p [05:34] it may be easier to suggest solutions if you give more detail on why you want to do it [05:35] I want to boot the windows which is currently on /dev/sda1 inside qemu-kvm but this computer can't run kvm while the other can (and the link throughput is >40MB/s) [05:35] ahh [05:36] maybe I can extract the cygwin files for now, it may work [05:36] not sure tbh.. DRBD would do it.. but it would be via replication not remote access [05:37] , nfs will let you at the FS.. but not the mbr [05:37] nbd? [05:37] hmmm, nbd, I think there's something called nbd: "network block device" [05:37] not looked into nbd myself.. could be the answer [05:38] " Saying Y here will allow your computer to be a client for network block devices, i.e. it will be able to use block devices exported by servers (mount file systems on them etc.)." :) [05:38] sounds good [05:38] StevenR_ (n=foo@212.44.56.204) joined ##slackware. [05:38] until you see the first "Segmentation fault" :P [05:39] bah, I'd be running windows, I guess most crashes won't be nbd's fault ;p [05:40] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/network/nbd/ \o/ [05:40] haha, probably [05:42] When i die, i want to be embalmed with french roast [05:42] lol ^^ [05:45] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [05:46] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-bpckxbrzdmzxgsrb) joined ##slackware. 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[05:47] oh, wait, I mis-read that [05:47] Urchlay: the windows will be run virtualised with linux providing it a block device that just happens to be nbd managed [05:47] right [05:47] should work, but slooowwwlyyy [05:48] woops, pressed the power button :D [05:48] tbh id just image the partition off and put it in the machine doing the virt :) [05:48] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-bpckxbrzdmzxgsrb) left irc: Client Quit [05:48] Urchlay: direct computer to computer over gigabit ethernet :) [05:49] actually when I scp over the link, the limit is the processing power because of cyphers ;) [05:49] Zordrak: I don't intend to use for a long time, only today, maybe tomorrow and that'd be it [05:49] 110WB/s then [05:49] not bad [05:50] but for windows its still gonna ache [05:50] akSeya (n=psycho@187.26.91.154) joined ##slackware. [05:50] given that acronis could image it and rewrite it in about 30 mins.. i know what id do :) [05:51] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-pyyatlijxughyidf) joined ##slackware. [05:51] StevenR (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:52] the problem would be booting, this hard drive can only read at 60MB/s or so [05:54] that oughtta work fine I guess [05:55] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [05:55] I can remember once wishing for the existence of a "network char device" driver (so box A could run a program that uses box B's serial ports) [05:55] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [05:55] mostly because I didn't have a 50 foot serial cable right then [05:57] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@98.116.202.61) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [05:57] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.76.165) left irc: "Leaving" [05:58] Desiderius, anything? 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[06:34] /uses/knows/ [06:35] Action: slava_dp knows bash :-) [06:35] slava_dp: i know some of that too ;) [06:35] |rfdrew| (n=rfdrew@95.135.15.247) joined ##slackware. [06:35] but in some systems bash doesnt exist at all ;) (i.e bsd) [06:36] bsd has bash [06:37] greymaus (n=greymaus@86-46-209-65-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [06:38] older solaris doesnt [06:38] _rfdrew_ (n=rfdrew@95.135.170.240) joined ##slackware. [06:39] uname -sr NetBSD 5.0.1; echo $SHELL /usr/pkg/bin/bash [06:39] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [06:40] and... we all know solaris sucks :-) [06:40] nearly all of us know this fact [06:40] but it is nonetheless a fact :) [06:41] gutts (n=gutts@ALyon-152-1-115-83.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:41] Action: slava_dp only knows this from Zordrak's continuing rants about it :-) [06:42] The-Croupier: why? (tcl/tk) [06:44] Camarade_Tux, he wants to have some fun, he told us already :) [06:44] I admit 10 is spectacular in comparison to 9... but a dollop of crap shaped to look like the Venus de Milo is still just a dollop of crap [06:44] The-Croupier: really? you're doing nasty things with tcl/tk? :o [06:45] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.140.197) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:46] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Operation timed out [06:47] |rfdrew| (n=rfdrew@95.135.15.247) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [06:47] agris6 (n=agris@213.226.141.169) joined ##slackware. [06:47] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [06:47] adamk_ (n=adamk@68.34.175.102) joined ##slackware. [06:48] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@109.76.63.151) joined ##slackware. [06:49] i think you will run into feirce resistance on whatever Solaris is crap or not when you talk to UNIX pros who use it for multi service boxes [06:52] s/whatever/whether/ [06:53] rfdrew (n=rfdrew@217-9-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:54] ah, finally got my 4 penguins at boooot \o/ [06:55] solaris is bad? why is that [06:55] Action: The-Croupier never does nasty things ;) [06:55] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [06:55] people think it is nasty...:( [06:55] and you think it's normal? ^^ [06:55] thus considering an ancient greek theorem...people are nasty ;) [06:56] i dont think anything on something that i dont know ;) [06:56] I haz proofz! [06:56] i am trying openbsd ;) (it was nasty for formating my slackware without any prompts...but that is all) (i reinstalled ;) ) [06:57] Camarade_Tux: i am listening [06:58] Camarade_Tux: ? any reasons/proof for your last statement? [06:59] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:59] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.20.218) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:59] alice_ (n=alice@78.105.168.173) joined ##slackware. [07:03] The-Croupier: yeah, I'm going to upload them to 4chan -_- [07:03] The-Croupier, hello [07:03] solaris is quite good as are the bsds [07:03] Camarade_Tux, i got 8 [07:03] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:03] oh wait, i forgot i was in ##slackware. solaris sucks, bsd sucks, everything sucks. slackware roolz [07:03] Action: edman007 hugs mancha [07:04] mancha: ! you forgot windows sucks! :P [07:04] edman007: hmmm, 8? [07:04] Action: edman007 hides his secret love for osx [07:04] edman :) [07:04] Camarade_Tux, i got 2 quad cores, 8 [07:04] edman007: he ;-) [07:04] edman007: I had disabled graphic output ;-) [07:05] though when it was the tu, i only had 6 because tuz is fat [07:05] edman007: hiya... [07:05] s/tu/tuz/ [07:05] what are you doing here?! :p [07:05] The-Croupier, i leave for work in 10 minutes [07:05] so until then i bug you [07:05] Action: edman007 hurt his neck sleeping :( [07:05] edman007: sounds like fun [07:07] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [07:07] The-Croupier, so what are you up to? [07:07] speaking with my gf [07:07] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:08] nasty :) [07:08] errrr xD [07:10] not really....its the only way so that she doesnt find out about the other ones [07:10] The-Croupier, lol [07:10] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:10] nasty greek boys [07:11] put here on irc, i have some logs for her [07:11] _rfdrew_ (n=rfdrew@95.135.170.240) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:12] edman007: i managed to get one that hates computers...;) [07:12] hmmmm, shoudl I try sata hotplug... [07:12] she has no problem with me using them ;) [07:13] The-Croupier, well put one of the ones on that likes computers [07:13] edman007: nahhhh... i will when i want to brake up with one of them ;) [07:13] edman007: promise [07:13] ^ ^ [07:13] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@94.159.152.59) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [07:14] IceChant (n=icechant@94.159.152.59) joined ##slackware. [07:14] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:14] if i do brake up with one of them than i will have 2/7 days without a girl ;) its not nice ;) [07:14] The-Croupier, hahah, ok...i suppose its ok if i can help getting you scratched/mutilated [07:14] this way all my week is full ;) [07:15] edman007: thats what friends are for ;) [07:15] thanks [07:15] i new i could count on you ;) [07:15] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [07:16] now i must go, bye [07:16] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) joined ##slackware. [07:16] edman007: bye bro ;) [07:17] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:18] guax (n=guaxinim@189.34.20.105) joined ##slackware. [07:18] edman007: noooo, stay! ='( [07:18] is there a color vt*? or is every vt device monochrome? [07:19] agris5 (n=agris@213.226.141.169) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:19] Ziggy- (n=krotz@85-220-2-82.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:20] how do you know it's not colour? [07:20] jescis: huh? the default linux console is in color, and the virtual terminals support ANSI color too [07:20] jescis: ls --color [07:21] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [07:21] vt100 supports the ansi color standard [07:21] jescis, tput setb6; tput setf 4 [07:21] setb 6 [07:22] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-436025.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:22] vt220 does as well [07:22] I'm getting color on my main PC, but not the Apple //e that I'm using as a terminal through the serial line :\ [07:22] is the apple //e's monitor monochrome? that can put a damper on colors [07:22] jescis: export TERM=vt100 [07:22] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-436025.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:23] macavity, the Apple //e uses color from composit output [07:23] mancha* [07:24] uhm, what OS is running on the Mac? [07:24] i didn't ask that [07:24] i asked if the monitor was monochrome, simple question [07:24] what Apple machine is it? [07:25] mancha, the same TV I use my Main PC on is the same the Apple //e is hooked up to, though through a different connector ;-) [07:25] stop telling us bullshit and answer the questions [07:26] macavity, Apple //e predates the Apple Macintosh [07:26] i dont care [07:26] macavity: lol [07:26] what Apple is it? what software is running on it? [07:26] macavity, lol :D [07:27] does slack have some image editor where I could make some quick / easy edits to image eg add some text and move selections around [07:27] if the terminal emulator on the Apple/Mac/Toaster is some dumbed down Apple crap from a two decades ago it might not even support colors [07:27] maybe the terminal program you run on the apple //e doesn't support colors [07:27] zmyrgel: gimp or krita methinks [07:27] mancha, that's what I'm thinking now :\ [07:27] my progress is dead slow with gimp... [07:28] zmyrgel: see if krita is more your thing then [07:28] ok, the times when I miss mspaint :) [07:28] jescis which isn't too crazy given that the apple 2e is from what, 1984-85? [07:28] mancha, 1982-86 [07:29] now, it would have been a whole heck of a lot easier if you had just said that from the beginning........ [07:29] Action: The-Croupier gets pop corn... and loves this [07:29] efssa (n=jonsol@c-6a12e055.1339-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [07:29] "i have a severly outdated Apple 2e from the mid eithties.. what are the odds it will support terminal colors?" [07:30] *eighties [07:30] macavity, but you asked what machine it was not when it was in use or produced :\ [07:30] it is not the first time i have had to *drag* every bit of information out of you [07:30] Action: The-Croupier gets something to smoke as well, to be able to follow....:) [07:31] jescis does it even have color text? or is the color limited to hi-res mode? [07:31] i.e. can you make a basic program that prints "hello, world" in red? [07:31] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [07:32] ah, xpaint saved the day [07:32] if it is too old it does _not_ have the graphics hardware capable of supporting colors, you are lucky to get something that old to work at all [07:33] mancha, I don't know, I think it just has hi-res. when did ANSI come about again? [07:35] zmyrgel, xpaint looks really dated [07:35] ok, wikipedia actually tells this outright [07:35] Pig_Pen, it might support colors for graphics only though... The Apple ][ had color back in '77 when it came out. But most could only afford monochrome monitors. [07:36] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_IIe#Technical_specifications [07:36] just look at "Video modes" [07:37] right, so unless the terminal program is "drawing" the text, you're SOL [07:37] so, you want 40x48 [07:37] 16 colors [07:38] and just pray that the terminal program can actually DO ansi color code translation [07:38] but again, if you dont set TERM=vt100 or something similar you probably wont get shit [07:38] slava_dp: yeah, but I got the things I wanted to do in 2mins with it after struggling with krita / gimp for 15min [07:38] macavity, I have the 80 col card... so double the columns ;-) [07:38] Perfec7 (n=gar0t0@c9340aef.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:39] >_< [07:39] the extended-80 card will not help with color text, unless my read of the specs is wrong [07:39] double low.. same shit, now can we get on with the things that are actually relevant? [07:39] mancha, you are correct [07:41] Does anyone know an (algorithmically) efficient thing for getting entries out of a log file within a certain time period? [07:41] i no longer know which is more likely waking up to "cheap rolex"/"cheap PhD" spam or new PHP exploits [07:41] Perfec7 (n=gar0t0@c9340aef.virtua.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [07:41] (eg you can find the first and last line by binary search, instead of sequential scanning) [07:42] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [07:42] sure, you can bisect to get start/end [07:42] I thought at least someone here would know enough to figure out what variable was the reason for no color... seems the Modem.MGR and Apple //e variables are the culprit(sp?) not slackware :-) [07:43] mancha: bisect being a tool, or an algorithm? If you mean the algorithm, how's that different to what I said in parenthesis? [07:43] on my original question, s/thing/tool/ sorry [07:44] our messages crossed, my comment is not different from your parentheses. didn't realize you were after a tool though you would just hack that up in a bash/perl script [07:44] s/though/thought [07:44] I'm happy to write it, if there's not an existing tool :p [07:45] isn't it quite context dependent though? i.e. format of the logfile in question? [07:45] I'm thinking it'll need cut-style -f and -d [07:46] actually, I only care about squid and apache where that works (especially as my apache logs are modified to include a unix timestamp) [07:46] epoch? [07:47] 1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC, as normal [07:48] ok, it seems like PHP exploits are more likely to make it into my inbox than viagra spam in the past 2 weeks. [07:48] %{%s}t with mod_log_config [07:48] either that's shit for php devs or else my SA is doing well with the woody-meds [07:50] i don't know of any tool but my money's on several being out there. otoh it seems like a trivial script to hack up [07:50] Action: fred writes one, will publish when done [07:51] netbsd uses a filesystem called ffs? apparently the devs had a sense of humour. [07:51] btrfs wins [07:52] requires kernel parameter i-cant-believe-its-not-btr on redhat I believe [07:52] francog (i=francog@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:52] lol [07:52] how close it is to production stability? [07:53] s/it is/is it/ [07:53] where do mozilla browsers search for libflash? this is maddening; i have the latest but seamonk wont do it [07:53] ChArLoK_16 (n=kml@188.247.1.140) joined ##slackware. [07:53] francog (i=francog@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [07:54] tripFantastic: ~/.mozilla/plugins/ and /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ [07:54] ty [07:55] merciful (n=eabe@24.132.148.25) joined ##slackware. [07:55] speaking of flash plugins, gnash uses like 0.000001% of adobe's cpu needs [07:55] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:55] too bad it doesn't support flash10 [07:56] StevenR (n=foo@212.44.56.204) joined ##slackware. [07:56] i cant get alienBOB's gnash to play youtube [07:56] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [07:57] the newer youtube vids are flash 10 [07:57] oh [07:57] can it play older youtube vids? [07:57] bugger :-/ [07:57] i dont know.. i just tried some random one [07:57] Action: macavity curses at youtube [07:57] mancha's gnash plays through flash 9, don't know alienbob's gnash [07:59] i wonder if youtube will be switching to open video like in ff 3.5 some time. [07:59] or maybe the switch was to avm2, i forgets...its a youtube-side thing though [08:00] maybe its time google released a miltimedia codec. theyve pretty much done everything else [08:01] sahk0, wonder what, they're planning to. i remember reading about that like a month ago. [08:01] that would cause severe conflict with adobe...not sure how they'd handle that [08:02] they don't want adobe as enemies, surely [08:02] slava_dp: makes sense. since they own youtube. why bother with flash [08:02] khaladu_kj (n=kiran@seepzgw.mumbai.geodesic.com) joined ##slackware. [08:03] because the patent hell that is in video compression/decompression is staggering [08:04] Agiofws_ (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435764.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:04] litterally.. it took longer to figure out how to split the patent royalties on mpeg4 than it did to develop the standard [08:04] sahk0, no, what i've read is about an ietf initiative to create a new "patent-free"(c) audio codec. an article in russian is here: http://www.opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=24259 [08:05] isn't ogg patent-free? [08:05] ogg is just a container format [08:05] mancha, they say it's vulnerable to patent pressure. [08:05] Vorbis and Theora are the patent free audio and video codecs [08:05] i meant ogg vorbis [08:06] khaladu_kj (n=kiran@seepzgw.mumbai.geodesic.com) left irc: Client Quit [08:06] macavity, well, then we are going to have a yapfac (yet another patent-free(c) audio codec) :-) [08:06] lul< [08:07] *lulz [08:11] i hope no patents surface that screw ogg. it seems like a promising way to go [08:11] for audio ? [08:12] andreas-- (n=andy@unaffiliated/slacky) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:12] can someone explain to me why ogv is "more free" than h264 ? [08:12] for both, though i am not too familiar with theora's performance [08:12] h264 lives in patent hell [08:13] it resides in cupertino [08:13] theora's performance is worse [08:13] sure.. but theora can be shipped with slackware.. h264 cant [08:13] why ? [08:14] 127 patents [08:14] or something like that [08:14] mkdosfs == mkfs.vfat? [08:14] Zordrak: yes [08:14] for that very same reason slackware doesnt ship neither ffmpeg nor lame [08:14] Agiofws_ (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435764.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [08:14] but it ships libmad [08:15] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-1-250.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [08:15] yes, decoding is licenced to everyone [08:15] hi there! :) [08:15] Rik (n=vbvbbgv@190.213.51.133) joined ##slackware. [08:15] gnubien (n=e@97.100.244.247) joined ##slackware. [08:15] yes, mkdosfs formats vfat [08:16] the whole video/audio patent things is nuts. i agree with macavity [08:16] Zordrak: mkdosfs -F 32 $DEVICE is probably what you want [08:16] the whole software patent thing is nuts... [08:17] allend (n=allend@CPE-58-165-25-82.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [08:17] you dont "transform" a computer by installing another program on it [08:17] it still just chews binary instructions [08:18] Zordrak: did you send an email for pam? [08:18] im just curious :) [08:19] lol.. i think Patrick has the word "PAM" in his spam filter ;-) [08:19] sahk0: i did.. the key parts of the response in paraphrased form: [08:19] ok, i'm going to do my homework now; I really don't think x264 is worse than ogv [08:19] oh you got a response already. nice:) [08:19] 1. I'm not anti-PAM, i just dont like over-complicating when unnecessary [08:19] 2. We're *looking* at PAM [08:20] 3. it want be in 13. [08:20] that makes sense [08:20] great thanks for the details [08:20] 4. it */_MIGHT_/* be in 14, but no promises [08:20] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-436025.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:21] on thing is sure though.. Slackware will *need* PAM when Samba4 hits stable [08:22] anyone uses virtual screens with the new X (without an xorg.conf)? I'd like not to have an xorg.conf =/ [08:22] macavity: aww you poor thing.. you still think samba4 will be stable one day... thats so sweet ;) [08:22] Zordrak: i track the development.. and yes, one day, sooner or later, they will catch up to Redmond :P [08:23] and what they already have working is *much* faster than MSAD [08:24] gyroscope (n=master@81.214.158.159) joined ##slackware. [08:25] Action: thrice` does obvious eye-roll [08:26] pat doesn't answer my emails [08:27] StevenR (n=foo@212.44.56.204) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:27] Action: Zordrak is spazhul [08:27] *spezhlu [08:27] :) [08:27] spezhul [08:28] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl10-233-18.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:29] thrice`: huh? [08:29] btw, *yummie* this sucuc is *good* [08:29] SpaceGhost (n=Johnneyl@c-67-170-165-147.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:29] SpaceGhost (n=Johnneyl@c-67-170-165-147.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:30] SpaceGhost: you *almost* managed to leave before you got here.. id say, make it 1.5 secs faster and you will have your self both a world reccord and a time paradox [08:30] granted the few i have sent were reporting things so replies weren't explicitely required but i did add in 1 or 2 questions if memory serves [08:30] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [08:30] escaflown (n=elom@24.65.83.244) joined ##slackware. [08:31] mancha: Patrick gets *a lot* of mail :P [08:31] Kaapa (n=Somethin@82.155.211.51) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [08:31] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [08:33] mac, i am sure he does, so i am not really expecting a reply. but i also thought that maybe i get trapped in a spam filter of some kind :) [08:36] and i wouldn't be suprised if quite a few of the mails he gets are from people who think they know better :P [08:37] ChArLoK_16 (n=kml@188.247.1.140) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:38] i don't know what that means. but yes, big inboxes are hard to manage. [08:39] some day AI can manage those :P ,PAT would be really happy [08:39] "i *so* think you ought to preconfigure fubar2000 in this and this way.. that is how *eeeverybuddy* wants it set up anyhow" etc [08:42] escaflown (n=elom@24.65.83.244) left irc: "Leaving." [08:42] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.104.228.52) joined ##slackware. [08:43] sdf45g56 (n=none@vc-41-28-244-209.umts.vodacom.co.za) joined ##slackware. [08:43] Nick change: sdf45g56 -> Shaun26 [08:43] big inboxes are easy to manage [08:43] hello, I am using Slackware 12.2 at home [08:43] just make a cronjob to delete them every hour [08:43] and loving it [08:44] any1 here use qemu ? [08:44] isn't that McDonald's slogan? [08:44] I got some qemu networking questions [08:44] Shaun26, spook's the qemu fan here, dunno if he's online [08:45] oh :/ [08:45] yo spook! :P [08:45] I think I will search for qemu irc chan, thats a good idea [08:46] Shaun26: they don't repond quick as we do :P [08:46] hi, if i do a make menuconfig and select a network card driver as a module.. .do i need to just do make and then make install_ [08:46] ? [08:47] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [08:47] make modules_install [08:47] init[1]: great to see that first thing when you join the channel....;) makes you wanna leave ;) [08:47] make; make install; make modules_install; then cp your new bzimage, run lilo. [08:48] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [08:48] The-Croupier, why? don't you love installing modules? :) [08:48] thanks there [08:49] oh so i could do make modules_install and then modprobe the module_ [08:49] The-Croupier: o_O [08:49] hello slackworld! [08:49] nargon: make modules [08:49] -> make modules_install [08:49] not really...;) but i love watching them compile ....when the pc goes crazy making them ;) [08:49] nargon: assmume that you are on the same kernel [08:49] especially when compiling the kernel..;) [08:50] init1 thanks zep same kernel [08:50] The-Croupier: with pop corn ? [08:50] it's also a good way to stress-test ram [08:50] init[1]: yep ;) [08:50] mancha: really? i should do that more often ;) [08:50] yep means yep on a german kezboard [08:50] nargon: use [tab] key complete nicks ;) [08:50] zep init[1] [08:51] The-Croupier: i think Scribus Slackbuild is for you [08:51] The-Croupier: try that out ;P [08:52] The-Croupier: thank me later ;) [08:52] init[1], does it outperform wine slackbuild? [08:52] slava_dp: as i said try out :P [08:53] slava_dp: its not the time , but ..... [08:53] i tried qt i think it was... ;) as well...loved it [08:54] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "leaving" [08:54] Action: init[1] brb [08:54] ok...whatever :p ;) [08:55] init[1], i'm not trying it atm sinse my only slack 13 box is a 200 MHz one. it'll go on till Monday. [08:55] s/sinse/since/ [08:55] howcome when I boot slack my eth0 has inet6 but no inet4 address when its plugged in the lan [08:56] slava_dp: then you will enjoy more if its 200MHz [08:56] kostas (n=kostas@79.107.166.47) joined ##slackware. [08:56] when i boot unplugged its setup right? [08:56] hello to everyone!! [08:56] _rfdrew_ (n=rfdrew@81-96-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. [08:56] akSeya (n=psycho@187.26.91.154) left irc: "Leaving" [08:57] init[1], like, i've been building gammu today, it took like 40 minutes. it builds on a dual core not more than 1-2 mins. [08:57] I think something is screwing the config ... ? [08:57] more like 40 seconds [08:57] slava_dp: yea, well the suspense is scribus add more colors to the build [08:57] matrix :P [08:58] init[1], oh, a coloured build? [08:58] i think that is more entertaining than bw build ;) [08:58] slava_dp: yea [08:58] cool. gonna try it out. [08:59] \o/ [08:59] hahaha...build stuff only cos it looks nice ;) awesome... [08:59] The-Croupier: with pop corn [08:59] i wish i knew how to do that ...add colors ...etc...;) [08:59] The-Croupier: bash colors ? [08:59] howcome when I boot slack my eth0 has inet6 but no inet4 address when its plugged in the lan, when its booted unplugged, it workx [08:59] i think one of the builds (dont remember which) had them nicely sorted...etc.... [09:00] init[1]: is it that easy? [09:00] Shaun26: if you dont specify an inet4 address there isnt one [09:00] The-Croupier: yea [09:00] you just add bash colors to the script? [09:00] ;) [09:00] init[1]: nice...thanks for that bro ;) [09:00] The-Croupier: check scribus one [09:01] The-Croupier: http://bre.klaki.net/programs/colormake/ [09:01] Zordrak, I have run netconfig good [09:01] The-Croupier, man tput [09:02] and when I boot with lan not plugged in hub, ifconfig show perfect 192.168.0.127, but when cable is plugged in only ip6 adress and ip4 is blank [09:02] The-Croupier, lemme find a good article i've read recently.... [09:02] despiron (n=1986saul@187.64.21.199) joined ##slackware. [09:03] The-Croupier, http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/aix/library/au-learningtput/ <- there you go [09:03] Action: Zordrak is creating the greatest USB stick ever [09:03] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [09:03] Zordrak, mine has a custom menu for 10 different things, what does yours have? :) [09:03] combining both 32 and 64bit slackware DVDs, UBCD5RC1, 4 different acronis images, two different ophcrack images and much more :) [09:04] oh. that's a large stick. [09:04] 16G :) [09:04] _rfdrew_ (n=rfdrew@81-96-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:04] theres also colorgcc http://schlueters.de/colorgcc.html [09:04] _rfdrew_ (n=rfdrew@81-96-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. [09:04] _rfdrew_ (n=rfdrew@81-96-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:04] Zordrak: nice one ;) [09:05] Zordrak: mail me one ;) that would be awsome ;) [09:05] i have two 16Gs and an 8G thats falling apart [09:05] The-Croupier: theyre <£20 [09:07] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:07] Zordrak: its not the money...its the content that i want to see the structure :p [09:08] :) [09:08] its just UBCD5 with customs [09:08] think i need grub4dos to boot the ISOs (rather than IMGs) but its on there [09:09] use hybrid syslinux isos [09:09] http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.php/Doc/isolinux#HYBRID_CD-ROM.2FHARD_DISK_MODE [09:10] i've used extlinux on mine. it has a ext2 partition with the booloader and all images (floppies and more) and a vfat volume to use it as a traditional drive. [09:10] ei][2:##slackware +JPcfnt 1,3 #overflow] [09:10] [##slackware] [09:10] failpaste [09:11] but that needs an updated syslinux [09:11] sahk0: am using UBCD's syslinux [09:12] i dont know how that works [09:13] despiron12345 (n=1986saul@187.64.21.199) joined ##slackware. [09:13] hello, anyone use preload? [09:14] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:14] morning Zordrak [09:14] morn [09:15] grub4dos seems simple enough and ubcd lets you enter grub4dos live [09:15] CornFedHonky (i=CornFedH@69.61.138.226) joined ##slackware. [09:15] Zordrak, so you went the preconfigured way :) [09:15] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [09:16] kinda yeah.. it makes sense [09:16] oh man.. is SO hope google just de-lists all of Murdoch's news sites :-) [09:16] s/is/I/ [09:17] damn usb sticks.. they may be 16G but theyre cheap cos theyre sloooow [09:17] Rupert Murdoch is a dirtbag like Citizen Kane, does not give a damn about nothing in the world but telling lies for profit [09:18] Anyone got a few to answer some questions about slackware 13 install? [09:18] yup [09:19] CornFedHonky: hit me [09:20] Well I'm on a toshiba satellite a305. I finally got to the point where I have empty space to partition. I log in as root once the install disk launches, run fdisk /d/hda but it says it's unable to open it [09:20] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.255.9.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [09:20] substancev (n=substanc@67.83.4.144) joined ##slackware. [09:20] The laptop already has windows 7 installed but I have 40gb of free unpartitioned space now [09:20] wut up people [09:20] CornFedHonky: fdisk -l [09:20] CornFedHonky: cfdisk [09:20] are you sure it is not /dev/sda ? [09:21] Listen im trying to get my wireless card on this laptop working for slackware.. having a hardtime... can anyone point me to the right direction [09:21] i am not sure at all, im a complete noob following an install guide [09:21] would sda mean sata? [09:21] CornFedHonky: ^^ [09:21] CornFedHonky: ok, that is a brand spanking new machine since it has Windows7, so odds are 99% that it has SATA [09:21] Yeah it's less than a year old.I put win 7 onit myself [09:21] CornFedHonky: as Zordrak said, fdisk -l will show you all partitions on all disks [09:22] ok so if it's sata type was Zordrak said? [09:22] =) [09:22] CornFedHonky: type what i said [09:22] sda1 and sda2 =) [09:22] fdisk -l will tell you the disk name [09:22] no matter what [09:22] Haha [09:22] Will do Zordrak [09:22] try # cfdisk /dev/sda [09:22] So yeah I see them both now [09:22] to partition: `cfdisk /dev/sda` [09:23] how do i know which is my windows partition and which is the free space? [09:23] CornFedHonky: i reccomend three partitions: / /home and swap [09:23] the ione that says unknown as opposed to ntfs? [09:23] johe_ (n=johe@p5B3265CC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:23] CornFedHonky: look at the sizes? [09:23] macavity: you would... [09:23] free space shows as freespace [09:23] anyone? [09:23] uh oh [09:23] substancev: hang on a sec [09:23] cool [09:23] substancev: ask a real question first [09:23] cfdisk /dev/sda1 [09:23] substancev, "my wireless doesn't work" is a terrible description. explain a bit more [09:24] CornFedHonky: no.. you cant partition a partition [09:24] CornFedHonky: no [09:24] Fatal Error: Bad primary partition 0: Partition begins after end-of-disk [09:24] CornFedHonky: sda [09:24] oh ok [09:24] :P [09:24] ok so i see my free space now [09:24] substancev: what wifi card is that? (lspci can tell you) [09:25] CornFedHonky: odds are that the first partition is what windows calls C:\ [09:25] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [09:25] sure.. Can't install my wireless card on my slackware box.. Its buildin to the laptop... hp dv2000 series.. broadcom wireless [09:25] CornFedHonky: but double check with the sizes [09:26] Well I see the free space definitiely now, I just dont know how to go about making the correct partitions. my walkthrough didnt use cfdisk =( [09:26] substancev: lspci [09:26] macavity, lspci not working. [09:26] ? [09:26] as root [09:26] >.< [09:26] i want to ask something [09:26] and no, no "sudo anything" here please [09:26] Then just ask [09:26] duh.. sorry.. ive been using ubuntu for several years [09:26] despiron (n=1986saul@187.64.21.199) left irc: No route to host [09:26] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [09:26] Zordrak may I please pm you? I am fairly confident I can get the install going once I get these paritions set. [09:26] Action: Zordrak walks backward.. tiptoeing around the failpool as he does [09:27] i ve install bittorrent [09:27] CornFedHonky: nothx.. youll get better help here [09:27] Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 02) [09:27] I do apologize for my level of failure =( [09:27] and i cant find where it is? [09:27] what happened? [09:27] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-76-128.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:27] kostas: which bittorrent client? [09:27] macavity, i will be right back. [09:27] 4.1.3 [09:28] The official one? [09:28] Ok, so once I see my freespace in cfdisk am I going to select it and hit "new"? I dont want to screw anything up [09:28] CornFedHonky: yes [09:28] Then you should prolly use Ubuntu or something o.O [09:28] CornFedHonky: nothing is written until you "write" [09:28] Primary correct? [09:28] i ve download it from ftp.mirrors/slackware/extra [09:28] CornFedHonky: i think you need to back up and read the basic howtos on disks & partitioning [09:29] CornFedHonky: you need to know a little more than you do [09:29] _bruno (n=bruno@201.43.76.128) joined ##slackware. [09:29] kostas: its in /usr/bin/bittorrent{*} [09:29] Im fine when it comes to partitioning for windows machines, I just dont knwo what *nix requires [09:29] I apologize [09:29] CornFedHonky: indeed.. and you need to know [09:29] Partitioning is kinda..OS independent [09:29] Ill just go google, thanks anyways [09:30] CornFedHonky: theres a zillion howtos/faqs and tutorials just waiing for you to read them [09:30] ok I will search and I will tell you! thanks [09:30] by the way [09:30] the slackbook has a section with screenshots iirc [09:30] StevenR (n=foo@212.44.56.204) joined ##slackware. [09:30] I came here to meet a friend that idles here and try to get help. He isnt around so I thought I would give the chan a shot. I apologize. As I said my only issue is going to be partioning. I'm a bit unclear on it. [09:31] substancev: you need b43-fwcutter from slackbuilds.org, read the README on how to actually get the firmware, and how to cut it so it fits the b43 driver that is already present on your system [09:31] I know I need to make a main and a swap, I do not know which needs to be made first and if they both need to be primary etc... [09:31] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: "Fui embora" [09:31] actually it doesnt [09:31] CornFedHonky: thing is.. thats more "core knowledge" that you need before ewbarking on "linux" than it is slackware installation issues [09:31] i didnt find it [09:31] *embarking [09:32] CornFedHonky: as i said before.. three is good: one 10-15GB root partition (/), almost the rest for user data (/home) and a small one for swap [09:32] Ok Zordrak, I will abandom my quest to learn linux because I don't know enough. [09:32] Thank you mac. [09:32] CornFedHonky: linux supports up to four primary partitions, so if you follow my above advice you can make them all primary [09:32] O_o [09:32] CornFedHonky: when you do come back and are ready to partition your hard drive and install you will be installing lilo to your MBR. But, I agree with the other users here. you need more background knowledge before you attempt this. [09:32] that's not it, we're just saying "be careful" , as you can delete your winedows partition easily here :) [09:32] i didnt find bittorent in the folders that you told me [09:33] kostas: then you didnt install it [09:33] CornFedHonky: do you abandon learning to drive because someone told you you need to know which pedal is which before using them?! [09:33] CornFedHonky: and select ext4 as the filesystem :P [09:33] I dont really care if windows dies, it's a new install as well. I appreciate the advice. [09:33] s0d0 (n=sod@86.175.233.229) joined ##slackware. [09:33] CornFedHonky: i take it that /dev/sda2 was the spare space? [09:33] terminal gives me a message that bittorent installed [09:34] Zordrak, no. I ask them which pedal is which. [09:34] CornFedHonky, ok, so where are you at ? [09:34] CornFedHonky: that is, that you deleted that partition, and are now creating three smaller partitions [09:34] you have located your free space properly from within cfdisk ? [09:35] yes mac [09:35] i ve type installpkg and the path [09:35] CornFedHonky: in linux.. we are not your teachers.. the documentation is... we can help guide you, but not teach. [09:35] how much free space do you have? [09:35] sda2 was the free one [09:35] bullshit, we can teach just fine [09:35] CornFedHonky: the only alternative to the documentation is paying someone to teach you [09:35] and if you're not interested, that's great [09:35] gbowden (n=gbowden@88.25.34.8) joined ##slackware. [09:35] Zordrak: pls, stand down for now.. we can teach him the finer workings and ettiquette later :P [09:35] kindly STFU :) [09:36] thrice`++ [09:36] thrice`: You're saying you're happy to hand-hold someone through every last step? [09:36] CornFedHonky, so, linux needs at least 2 partitions, a swap and and "/" . you can do more, but this will be perfect to learn [09:36] Zordrak. [09:36] Zordrak, yes, I am. [09:36] thrice`: glwt [09:36] As I said, Im fine on the rest of the install, The partioning is just confusing me [09:36] ill take this one in PM so CornFedHonky can concentrate on the task at hand [09:37] I like helping people if I have time. if you don't, quit talking at all; saying "you're not intelilgent enough," and "read the fucking documentation" isn't counter-productive [09:37] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:38] thrice`: Careful..he'll ignore you too [09:38] CornFedHonky, so, if you have the free space available, you need a swap partition, and a spot for the rest. the swap partition should be, on modern hardware, maybe 2 gigs or so, and you can leave the rest for "/" . don't worry about file systems, what is "/" or swap right now, the installer takes care of that. you just have to create the stuff for the installer to use [09:39] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [09:39] straterra, the horror :) [09:39] swap should be a bit more than your total ram if you want to use suspend [09:39] thrice`: i have been careful to be positive, not negative. Before someone starts partitionincg their disk, a quick flick through the docs on DOS partitions is essential. I dont see the benefit of holding someone's hand through every command. Its counter-productive; they dont learn to use the docs and just come back for every last thing ad infinitum [09:39] hell [09:40] that's fine, I"m OK with "can someone help me learn?" [09:41] Nick change: johe_ -> johe [09:42] gbowden (n=gbowden@88.25.34.8) left irc: "Leaving" [09:42] slava_dp: works perfectly [09:42] Zordrak: well said [09:43] slava_dp: standard menu is isolinux.. with an option to go into the grub4dos menu which loads up whatever ISO i need [09:45] anyone elses firefox/flash been borking? [09:46] ff + flash = fail in general... but it *mostly* works for me [09:46] so long as i dont full screen it while h/w accel is on [09:46] okay, which flash version? [09:46] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [09:46] latest stable [09:46] r32? [09:46] ah, there is a dev version out. [09:46] 10.1 [09:46] indeed [09:46] not moved to it yet [09:47] i'm just having problems in general. [09:47] with my system [09:47] 10.1 is 32-bit only, no? [09:47] I don't suggest 10.1 [09:47] and yes it is thrice` [09:48] I think ext4 is to blame though I can't pin it on the mofo [09:48] (for my system troubles) [09:48] mrselfpwn: i would be very surprised if ext4 was the cause [09:48] mrselfpwn: but lret us know.. [09:49] ext4 is at fault for flash sucking? O_o [09:50] flash doesn't need scapegoats for flash sucking [09:50] StevenR (n=foo@212.44.56.204) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:50] ext4 is the cause of all of the worlds issues [09:51] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.76.237) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:51] mancha: good point [09:51] my favorite rugby shirt shrunk over the weekend, i blame ext4 [09:52] no, my mbr seemed to be trashed on last boot, i had to run lilo again. [09:52] maybe it was an update [09:52] mrselfpwn you missed a lively discussion earlier where a bunch of us were basically ripping flash a new bunghole :) [09:52] i hate flash, if I could live without it I would [09:54] I wish they would get a new bunghole. [09:54] the current one is worn out. [09:55] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [09:56] your rugby shirt shrunk too? [09:56] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [09:56] frullet (n=hooch@124.170.179.130) joined ##slackware. [09:57] mancha: on that note, i also modify ext4 settings, so if it is the filesystems it's mostly me to blame. [09:57] Karuna (n=chatzill@114.59.195.86) joined ##slackware. [09:58] hmm.. what else to put on this usb-stick-of-awesomeness :/ [09:58] parted magick [09:58] already on ubcd45 [09:58] hmm [09:58] *already on ubcd5 [09:59] i used the hawkpe though it is warez apparently [09:59] yeah.. i was thinking about HawkPE.. but i dont often find a use for it [09:59] that should get the slackware irc logs a few more hits [09:59] yeah, i'm actually thinking of removing it [10:00] was such a pain in the ass to get on there though, only reason I haven't yet [10:00] Shaun26 (n=none@vc-41-28-244-209.umts.vodacom.co.za) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:00] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:00] Reaver2 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [10:01] could put the XP CD on it i guess [10:01] worth getting an SP3 one first though [10:01] yep [10:01] there is a good one on the net with a dot tor extension [10:02] i have mount the externa usb disk from terminal but when i tried to open the disk a message tolds me "failed to open directory (usb)" [10:02] whats wrong? [10:02] meh.. its all OEM stuff here might just have a word with my vendor.. see if he has an SP3 anywhere [10:02] nice [10:02] I have every XP disk..ever [10:02] Perhaps if I weren't on ignore, I'd provide it [10:02] lol [10:03] StevenR (n=foo@212.44.56.204) joined ##slackware. [10:03] i don't ignore you (unnamed) [10:03] perhaps PCLinuxOS and or pfSense / (that other one) [10:04] mm.. Dell diag CD perhaps [10:04] hrm [10:04] maybe [10:04] anyone who knows ? [10:04] Using an OEM disk for a PE environment is very fail [10:04] i have an 8g stick so i think it out [10:04] Talk about activation issues [10:04] Use volume license or nothing [10:05] i have the windows 9in1 cd [10:05] it lacks all the languages to make it fit [10:05] only9? theres a 10 smwr [10:05] heh [10:05] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.41.199) joined ##slackware. [10:05] wonder what that lacks [10:05] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.103.103) joined ##slackware. [10:05] I have..pretty much every kind of disk [10:05] nah i think its a 2003 10in1 [10:06] oh, this is a media center, xp home, xp corp, one [10:06] *nod* [10:06] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.41.199) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:07] or some shiznit, it just takes up space on my hard drive. [10:08] briareus (n=briareus@mayo-nat2.mayo.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:08] feels like im missing something.. not sure what [10:08] ever read the irc logs on metasploit? it's good entertainment. [10:09] opps s/mettaslpoit/milw0rm [10:10] anybody who can help me? [10:11] kostas: asking that is pointless. either somebody will help you, or they won't. [10:11] kostas: what is the context? are you mounting in a slack install or pre-install? [10:12] allend (n=allend@CPE-58-165-25-82.vic.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [10:13] and how are you trying to mount it? [10:13] Action: mrselfpwn has never had that error before. [10:13] last question: what filesystem does it have? [10:13] linXea__ (n=esbjorn@81.233.227.253) joined ##slackware. [10:15] ok ive install slackware in an internal hard disk. and i just plugged my external disk to trasfer some files [10:15] good morning everyoe [10:15] everyone* [10:15] morning Scuzz [10:15] kostas: KDE? [10:15] huh [10:15] xfce [10:15] oh [10:15] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.104.228.52) left irc: "Leaving" [10:15] sorry kosta is my real name [10:15] k [10:16] why are you logged in twice? [10:16] lol [10:16] hi guys, I want to disable my wonky mouse scroll wheel on slackware 13. I successfully did it by modifying xorg.conf but it fails here. Here's the relevant snippet from xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/1685547. Help me out here, please? [10:17] mrselfpwn: when i tried to open my external disk i ve got message "failed to open directory usb " permission denied [10:17] no comprenda isBEKaml. Slack13 doesn't use xorg.conf if that is what you mean. [10:17] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [10:17] mrselfpwn: it can [10:18] mrselfpwn: yes, I know it doesn't use xorg.conf. But I read somewhere that if it's there, it'll use the given xorg.conf. [10:18] kostas: maybe because you are trying to open it as a normal user and you mounted it as root? [10:18] Zordrak: yes it can, if you will it. [10:18] isBEKaml: it will [10:19] iam root [10:19] why ? [10:19] mrselfpwn: yes, I have the xorg.conf in /etc/X11. modified the mouse section to mimic 2 button mouse. Failed. :( [10:20] i am not normal user right now. [10:20] isBEKaml: what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say? [10:20] I've installed slackware 13 three times (using two different dvd, both md5sum checked) and every time the KDE-pkgs failed in install.... = corrupted system... 64bit btw [10:20] kostas: bro It's hard to help with no input. [10:20] what do you think mrselfpwn? [10:21] what do you mean with that ? [10:21] linXea__: bad checksum [10:21] i gave you as much information as i can [10:21] i mean, we don't have enough info to help you unless someone else has experienced the same problem [10:22] ok. [10:22] Karuna, not very likely .. two dvd, burnt on different systems and all successfully checked ? [10:22] linXea__: It is possible to have a badly written disk twice. Write it at the lowest speed. If that doesn't help download from a different source. [10:22] linXea__: use mirror then [10:22] mrselfpwn: I am not saying mouse doesn't work. I am saying that it still scrolls when using the mouse wheel. I now see that it reads IMPS/2 when it should actually be PS/2. [10:23] get package from mirror [10:23] any one familiar with lex and yacc ? [10:23] especially as I had mentioned that in xorg.conf. [10:23] Karuna, you mean like netinstall ? [10:23] isBEKaml: correct, i always set my mouse to the third options when installing slackware [10:24] mrselfpwn, already done mate.. always lowest speed and md5sum check before and after =)... [10:24] linXea__: install base first [10:24] linXea__: good, so it doesn't install KDE ?? [10:25] download kde package later [10:25] exactly.. everything else seem just fine [10:25] linXea__: it's slackware64 ? [10:25] I guess I have to.. but seriously, installing KDE from source is sooo time consuming.. yes, slackware64 13.0 [10:26] agris6 (n=agris@213.226.141.169) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:26] mrselfpwn: hmm, how do I make it look at PS/2 and not ImPS/2? Please look at my pastebin post above. [10:26] _Ig0r (n=Ig0r@Tribalero.Atlantica.US) joined ##slackware. [10:26] Ive installed base and then tried to install kde from dvd (even downloaded the cd containing kde) no luck.. something funky going on [10:26] okay, my apologies, though I don't have experience with slackware64 [10:27] linXea__: ^^ [10:27] btw, 13.0 32bit works great [10:27] saivin (n=saivin@122.167.83.232) joined ##slackware. [10:27] OddtheCat (n=oddtheca@173-9-254-98-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [10:27] isBEKaml: okay, looking [10:27] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [10:28] mrselfpwn, thank you anyways =) .. just wanted to check if it was a well know issue, guess not =)... [10:29] isBEKaml: have you tried commenting out the mouse section completely? [10:30] mrselfpwn: commenting out the mouse section throws it back to ImPS/2. No luck there. :( [10:30] ah i see [10:30] It's as good as using it without xorg.conf. :) [10:30] I think, just from looking it is your "driver" line. [10:31] someone can correct me if I'm wrong. It's the only thing that stands out to me though. [10:32] saivin (n=saivin@122.167.83.232) left ##slackware. [10:34] bugger.. slax-based stuff wont boot properly from grub4dos.. at least not with the config i have [10:34] Howdy folks. [10:34] hi Alan_Hicks [10:35] spiraliz (n=spiraliz@90.149.153.177) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:35] spiraliz (n=spiraliz@90.149.153.177) joined ##slackware. [10:35] macavity, get him all sorted ? [10:35] yup [10:35] we are at services now :P [10:35] cool :) [10:35] I just noticed he had pm'ed me as well :( [10:36] i gave him seperate / and /home [10:36] in case he wants/needs to do this all over in three weeks [10:36] Action: macavity still remembers the time when he was reinstalling boxes more than actually using them [10:37] heh [10:37] macavity: windows? :) [10:37] Karuna: LFS [10:37] i havent had windows since w2k-beta3 [10:37] mrselfpwn: I'll check it out. [10:38] Ive never had windows, period... =) [10:38] isBEKaml: good. and let me know [10:38] mrselfpwn: sure. [10:39] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:40] slackie (n=x@cb2-84-91-28-22.netvisao.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:41] linXea__: nobody ever had windows.. but windows sure had a lot of people ;-) [10:42] but it does kind of sound like a sexually transmitted decease, doesnt it: "i *swear*.. i *never* had windows" :P [10:42] "Computers are like Air coolers ,it stop working once you open WINODWS" --source unknown [10:43] life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% mortality rate. [10:44] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:44] how bright and cheerfull :P [10:44] are you taking your meds? :P [10:44] heh [10:45] that's a fortune quote [10:45] macavity, true... but seriously.. Ive had mac since I was born (1986).. never used windows execpt from in school [10:45] linXea__ (n=esbjorn@81.233.227.253) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:46] haha! n1 selfpwn [10:46] Nick change: despiron12345 -> despiron [10:46] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.103.103) left irc: "leaving" [10:47] :) [10:47] joel` (i=1000@chondestes.bio.unc.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:47] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.103.103) joined ##slackware. [10:48] has anyone here upgraded from 13.0 x86 to 13.0x86_64? [10:48] mrselfpwn: it would really nice to see your nick as Mrselfpwn ;_ [10:48] Nick change: mrselfpwn -> Mrselfpwn [10:48] mrselfpwn looks more "correct" to me :S [10:49] gerrh^^: s/mr/Mr/ [10:49] i'll do it for init this one time [10:49] \o/ [10:49] :D [10:49] love is iin the aiir daa-dada daaa-da-da [10:49] Mrselfpwn: now thats called smart nick :P [10:49] haha [10:50] now you are starting to get on my good side init[1] . [10:50] o_o [10:50] stop it [10:50] somebodys gettin laid tonite [10:50] :P [10:50] ;D [10:51] gerrh^^: wana join ? :P [10:51] he's too young [10:51] ooOoo i thought you'd never ask! [10:51] but! [10:51] damn [10:51] :D [10:51] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [10:51] tss, i'm near 30 [10:51] see [10:51] :( [10:51] he's older than me. [10:52] gerrh^^: sorry you are too old for this :( [10:52] doh [10:52] wait... i'm near 30 too. [10:52] hMm :S [10:52] Mrselfpwn: ever one is near 30! [10:52] :) [10:52] and i'm too young? you dirty dirty man :> [10:52] lol [10:52] every [10:52] indeed [10:52] ugh.. screw slax [10:53] in mother Russia slax screws you. [10:53] gerrh^^: i never told i'm male :P [10:53] :D [10:53] gerrh^^: i'm a female slacker [10:53] *purrrRrr* [10:53] slax ignores the boot location and does its own scan for its core files.. if the scan doesnt find them it fails to boot [10:53] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.183.183) joined ##slackware. [10:54] init[1]: Yes, you *can* upgrade from x86 to x86_64, but it's not for the faint of heart, and many brave men have perished attempting the task. [10:54] rofl [10:54] Alan_Hicks: tab fail [10:54] lol [10:54] :P [10:55] Alan_Hicks: could I do it with slapt-get? [10:55] Alan_Hicks: joel` ^ [10:55] adrenaline (n=repsol@tuxhacker/adrenaline) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:55] Alan_Hicks: can you describe problems leading to these heart palpitations? [10:55] Alan_Hicks: v3 [10:55] Actually it wasn't tab fail, it was my misreading who said what. [10:55] Zordrak: I knew that was coming. :^) [10:55] almost forgot :) [10:55] Alan_Hicks: I don't tend to think of myself as faint... [10:55] macavity thanks for putting me in the right direction [10:56] joel`: i think you will face issues with the libs at run time when you _start_ the upgrade with slackpkg ,i'm not sure though [10:56] joel`: No, you can't get it with slapt-get. [10:56] Alan_Hicks: ok [10:56] joel`: Basically, if you don't already know how to do this, you're not going to suceed. [10:56] Alan_Hicks: what about the regular upgrade procedure? [10:56] substancev: yw [10:56] Alan_Hicks: what the hell kind of attitude is that? [10:56] joel`: No, that won't work properly either. [10:56] Alan_Hicks: can you be a little more specific? [10:56] Afternoon gentlemen... [10:56] and macavity .. ;) [10:57] BP{k}: There's gentlemen in this channel? [10:57] Alan_Hicks: I'd just like to know what my options are [10:57] yo BP{k} [10:57] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:57] macavity, is there a application like apt-get for debian .. but for slackware? [10:57] Alan_Hicks: I like to keep up the pretense ;) [10:57] joel`: You're far better off doing a re-install than trying to upgrade to a different architecture. [10:57] this whole Boot-isos-from-grub4dos-inside-ubcd adventure isnt going well... BartPE BSODs, slax wont find its own files... what is thoroughly joyful is at least the slackware install dvd ISOs work on it :) [10:57] Alan_Hicks: and WHY?????????????????????????????????????? [10:58] joel`: You can do the upgrade, but it's a very difficult and tedious excersize, and if you don't do it 100% correct, even a slight error, you'll have to do a re-install anyway. [10:58] Action: Mrselfpwn slaps substancev [10:58] just boot a 64-bit live media, and try it; I think it'll work :) [10:58] woops [10:58] i needed that [10:58] haha [10:58] substancev: slackpkg [10:58] if i test conencting various users to my vsftpd server, is there a risk that my passwords can be viewed? are those password encrypted in ome way? [10:58] good show tonite, this cat gotta run though. catch you all later :> [10:59] user_ (n=user@93-172-188-103.bb.netvision.net.il) joined ##slackware. [10:59] thrice`: I know I could do it that way, but I'd like to preserve some things on my /var partitions (svn repo, etc) [10:59] hi all [10:59] slappkg [10:59] Azeotrope: FTP is not typically encrypted. It can be encrypted with SSL or TLS, but it's pretty difficult given the unusual nature of FTP. Most FTP clients are completely incapable of using encrypted FTP. [10:59] I have personally been using webmin with great success Azeotrope. [10:59] !user [11:00] later y'all, thanks for the tips [11:00] joel` (i=1000@chondestes.bio.unc.edu) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"). [11:00] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) joined ##slackware. [11:00] is there a way to send files via tcp/ip other then ssh/ftp/nfs/samba? [11:00] thats why people keep seperate partitions. but he left [11:00] Azeotrope: If you want to encrypt that traffic, you could setup a simple vpn with openvpn, or optionally, if you don't need any kind of "good" performance, you could use OpenSSH to make such a vpn, or just use sftp in the first place. [11:00] #slackware: I havent used this distribution in about 10 years.. i have been consumed by the ubuntu world.. Please excuse my noobish approaches. [11:01] Action: slava_dp forgives substancev :) [11:01] substancev: as penance you should all buy us a beverage of our choice. [11:01] Action: Mrselfpwn slaps substancev [11:01] :) i am good with linux.. just stepping into a more complex distro [11:01] Action: Alan_Hicks wants a Yuengling Black & Tan. [11:01] Alan_Hicks: no real need to use SSL over FTP, i'm just experimenting [11:01] user_: nc [11:01] Alan_Hicks: I concur. [11:02] i teach kids and want them 2 share files without internet connection [11:02] Azeotrope: Cool. FTP is one of those few really weird protocols that's difficult in a lot of ways because it uses multiple TCP ports. [11:02] Action: substancev offers BlackSmith's accross the room. (guiness / smithwick) [11:02] user_: use apache ,any problem ? [11:02] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [11:02] i dont want to install any new packages [11:02] user_: you can run apache locally [11:02] user_: sneaker network! [11:03] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) joined ##slackware. [11:03] Action: Mrselfpwn accepts substancev offerings. [11:03] zordrak: nc? [11:03] user_: You could juse use samba or NFS. [11:03] Action: Mrselfpwn loves substancev and guiness. [11:03] net cat [11:03] want to take this to another channel substancev? [11:04] user_: sneakernet [11:04] user_: Pay no attention to the man in the closet (Zordrak). [11:04] bye [11:04] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@79.51.70.114) left irc: [11:04] i am sorry apache needs to be installed [11:04] substancev: Guiness and Smitchwicks are good stuff! [11:04] :) [11:04] Action: BP{k} thinks we have a typical slackphorism at work here. [11:04] you could use pigeon though [11:05] Pat actually introduced me to Smitchwicks. [11:05] hmm tcp/ip over avian carriers :) [11:05] user_: [11:05] python -m SimpleHTTPServer [11:05] user_: ^ [11:05] i have a fresh install here of slack.. running fluxbox... how are slack packages installed... i have tgz files? do i uncompress them or is there another command [11:05] user_: you don't have to install any thing [11:06] i managed to use ekiga and call each other [11:06] substancev: http://slackbook.org [11:06] chapter 18 ^^^^ [11:06] Action: substancev bows [11:06] but the rest is useful to read as well. :) [11:06] substancev: on that not, slackware now uses txz. [11:06] substancev: Specifically, http://slackbook.org/html/package-management.html [11:06] Mrselfpwn: only for install disk right? [11:07] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:07] init[1]: ? [11:07] I make my packages txz. [11:07] nice one, init[1] [11:07] But bear in mind that since Slackware 13.0, Slackware now supports a number of different compression schemes. .tgz is the oldest and still the most common, particularly for third party packages, but .txz is what the official packages are shipped as now. [11:08] init[1]: flew over my head i guess. [11:08] Mrselfpwn: i mean txz is usually used in packages in the install disk isn't it? [11:08] though you can use other wise too :P [11:08] init[1]: see what Alan_Hicks just said. :) [11:08] i don't use install discs i wouldn't know. [11:08] Mrselfpwn: cool. webmin is nice. But it's not what i really wanted... i don't want to use ftp to admin my system (if that's possible). I just made a folder where people can upload thisgs [11:08] BP{k}: _shipped_ ;) [11:09] nvm [11:09] init[1]: being serious. usually I use an external drive. [11:10] init[1]: everything in the offical tree gets shipped as txz. As for anything outside of that that is up to the packager. SBo build scripts default to tgz but easily changed by setting the right variable. [11:11] 10x [11:11] user_ (n=user@93-172-188-103.bb.netvision.net.il) left irc: "Leaving" [11:11] BP{k}: got cha [11:11] PKGTYPE=txz in .bashrc [11:12] Mrselfpwn: it's nice to leave something for people to work out themselves, that way they learn. ;) [11:13] heh, it's also nice to be able to provide info when I can. [11:13] I don't often get the commodity. [11:13] StevenR (n=foo@212.44.56.204) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:14] xd [11:14] i learn more here than i have info to give. ;) [11:14] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:17] . [11:17] Action: Mrselfpwn enjoys the silence. [11:17] Mrselfpwn: who is she ? [11:18] :P [11:18] didn't you say you were female? [11:18] Mrselfpwn: yes [11:18] of the oppisite sex attracted to me [11:18] type? [11:19] yes [11:19] type? [11:19] okay good [11:19] ;) [11:19] ... and they chatted happily ever after ;) [11:19] haha [11:20] Mrselfpwn: add this to your root .bashrc can ya? [11:20] nvm [11:20] lol [11:20] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@d24-57-84-192.home.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:21] should I make it run as a loop? [11:21] what? [11:21] ^^ [11:21] nvm ? [11:22] power failure bbl :( [11:22] :) later [11:22] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left ##slackware. [11:23] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-pyyatlijxughyidf) left irc: [11:23] It amuses me to know end how guys act in this and other channels when some one identifies themselves as female. [11:24] I act as I do in real life, with itrigue and wonder. [11:24] if irc == realife [11:24] *cough*bullshit!*cough* [11:24] i purr when i encounter such females [11:24] i do my friend [11:25] I personally couldn't care less here if someome is male/female/alien/has-tentacles. [11:25] more than that i'm incapable of. complete shutdown whilst purring to compensate for lack of interesting things to say [11:25] :D [11:25] BP{k}: Leave your tentacle fetish out of this. ;-) [11:26] macavity, out of curiosity, why are you against patents for audio/video stuff? [11:26] BP{k}: I agree. I was having a joke though usually i just see everyone as text. [11:26] ohh.. tentacles! [11:26] johe (n=johe@p5B3265CC.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:26] thrice`: because it prohibits us from free redistribution? [11:26] and I ++ on the tentacle fetish [11:26] thrice`: the same reason as with all other patents.. they are freaking dangerous, and you never know when you accedently code yourself into one [11:27] Good God it's like Japan in here. [11:27] Alan_Hicks; but I just finished downloading the latest tentacle hentai movie for you! ;) [11:27] lol [11:27] theora most DEFINITELY is covered by some patents [11:27] So... how about that local sports team? [11:27] tentacle mascot [11:27] hehehe [11:27] the issue is, that since theora kinda sucks compared to the alternatives, noone invests the money to notice [11:28] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A661.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:28] Alan_Hicks: I am rooting for Alabama. [11:28] adrenaline (n=repsol@tuxhacker/adrenaline) joined ##slackware. [11:28] macavity, you might find this interesting: http://lwn.net/Articles/279733/ [11:29] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [11:29] not my home state though, mine is the worst in the SE conference. [11:30] heh, bulldogs? [11:30] especially point number (3), for any theora fans [11:30] oh, wait, they're the most disappointing [11:30] i'm in SC [11:31] gamecocks [11:31] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.103.103) left irc: "leaving" [11:31] they are the best team until the 4th quarter [11:32] Personally, I can't tell any difference between the various audio codecs (excepting of course, audio codecs for VOIP, those vary widely). [11:32] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:33] we were specifically chatting about x264 vs. ogc earlier :) I'm the same with audio [11:33] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [11:34] magickjack is porting to linux soon, so I read from them. [11:35] ogv * [11:35] i'll be happy for that as I won't have another windows box taking up power [11:35] i got installing down... package system [11:36] Now to get wireless installed [11:37] substancev, good :) so, you have a broadcom card, and you installed the firmware appropriately ? [11:39] fk comcast is limiting bw [11:39] down to 128k/s [11:39] d/ls are taking forever [11:40] i live on a fully non-commecial road; no one's home [11:40] nope... i followed the howto on installing slackbuilds with b43-fwcutter... so thats installed.. just reading on what to do next [11:40] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:40] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [11:41] grr , i want to punch my isp's support in the face [11:41] hologram (n=hologram@ip68-228-56-113.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:42] substancev, outside of the cutter, there should be a bw43-firmware too, I think [11:42] im looking at linuxwireless.org.. uber complicating. [11:42] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/network/b43-firmware/ [11:43] don't worry about that :) [11:43] StevenR (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:43] as long as b43-firmware covers your card, that package will work fine [11:44] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [11:45] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.103.103) joined ##slackware. [11:46] C00re (i=hard@unaffiliated/c00re) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:47] thrice`, : done [11:48] ok, so in "/sbin/ifconfig -a", do you see something that could be your wireless card ? [11:48] man my lan is super slow on slack [11:49] substancev: Super slow? [11:49] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [11:50] Zero_ultimatum (n=maxzero5@117.199.163.164) joined ##slackware. [11:50] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [11:50] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166058248.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:50] yea i notice it takes long to resolve or respond... ill worry about it later tho [11:50] wireless seems to be complex for me at the moment [11:52] Could be a bad driver. [11:53] so what could be my next step after building b43-fwcutter [11:53] where can i read the steps [11:53] 11:48 thrice`| ok, so in "/sbin/ifconfig -a", do you see something that could be your wireless card ? [11:56] gutts (n=gutts@ALyon-152-1-115-83.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:59] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [12:01] freebse (n=freebse@f055016225.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [12:02] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "changing server" [12:02] Karuna (n=chatzill@114.59.195.86) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]" [12:02] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [12:02] ArthurLancey (i=189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-vzrtuhnbfvkszgtp) joined ##slackware. [12:03] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.183.183) left irc: "leaving" [12:03] stuck [12:03] BP{k} (n=michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:03] :\ [12:03] huh? [12:03] i got the fwcutter [12:03] downloaded the driver... [12:03] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [12:03] but not sure how to put this together using linuxwireless instructions [12:04] i've asked you the same question twice [12:04] should I ask again? [12:04] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [12:04] BP{k} (n=michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) joined ##slackware. [12:04] im sorry.. [12:04] please if you don't mind [12:04] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:04] I'd rather you scroll up [12:05] Nick change: kethry_ -> kethry [12:05] we need to check if the firmware installation was effective [12:05] thrice`, didn't know that was directed to me [12:05] to see if your wireless interface is there, try "/sbin/ifconfig -a" [12:06] i have a wlan0 [12:06] did i do it ? already. [12:06] i guess i need a wireless manager now [12:06] yes, that means the firmware supports your card, and the kernel now knows about it :) [12:07] are you on 32-bit or 64-bit slackware ? [12:07] 32bit. [12:07] 64 bit system.. but 32 bit os [12:07] tmi.. :) [12:08] ok, you have two choices; the more challenging, "digging into it" method: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network [12:08] or, point+click method: http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-current/extra/wicd/wicd-1.6.2.2-i486-1.txz [12:09] ill think ill point click this since im always on the move.. different networks n such [12:09] akSeya (n=psycho@187-26-91-154.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:12] GammalSokk (n=johskar@137.84-48-41.nextgentel.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:13] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.103.103) left irc: "leaving" [12:13] slackie (n=x@cb2-84-91-28-22.netvisao.pt) left irc: "Papaver Somniferum" [12:13] Nick_Patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-trupmhljuuqvokpw) joined ##slackware. [12:14] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:15] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.76.237) joined ##slackware. [12:19] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:22] oh yeah the XZ shortcut for tar is J [12:22] i checked the source [12:23] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-148-247.aei.ca) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:23] StevenR (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:24] tar is pretty smart, usually "xvf" is enough [12:24] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [12:25] what? [12:26] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-56-142.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:26] tar is smart enough to figure out what to do. Technically supply -{z,j,J} is not needed. [12:26] for extracting archives, usually "tar xvf" will catch .tar.* [12:27] bash-3.1$ tar xvf Derp3.tar.xz tar: This does not look like a tar archive [12:28] you have xz installed ? [12:28] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [12:28] substancev_ (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [12:28] yeah i just compressed the tar with it and bz2 and gz [12:28] only Xz says that error...but tar Jxvf works fine [12:28] weird o_O [12:28] the others DID work with just tar xvf which is good to know [12:28] thrice`,: Ok.. i got this working on wicd.. but i fear this will have to be ran on every boot. i guess till i can work out more time to read and make these into daemons [12:29] regardless.. i appreciate the help [12:29] substancev_, what do you mean ? the wicd daemon should launch at every boot [12:29] thrice`: is it set +x in the package? [12:29] thrice`, let me reboot :) thanks for bearing with the noob slack questions [12:30] ArthurLancey: slackware version? [12:30] seems like tar xvf does extract .tar.gz but it spits out 2 errors tar: This does not look like a tar archive tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors [12:30] err .tar.xz [12:30] rworkman: -current [12:30] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/Ghywcy56.html <-- wfm. [12:30] libarchieve failure, perchance ? [12:30] Link to the specific tar archive? [12:31] substancev_ (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:31] mkdir TEST; cd TEST; touch a; mkdir b;touch b/a; tar -cf Derp.tar .;xz -9 Derp.tar;tar xvf Derp.tar.xz [12:31] I'm pretty sure that tar in 13.0 and later handles this case fine - I made the (simple) patch. [12:31] substancev (n=substanc@67.83.4.144) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:32] gar0t0 (n=root@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [12:32] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:32] gar0t0 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [12:32] tar Jxvf has no error just tar xvf [12:32] but both work lol [12:32] slackie (n=x@87.196.233.0) joined ##slackware. [12:33] ls [12:33] bah [12:33] ls: cannot stat `.' [12:33] bash: ls: command not found [12:33] Weird. That happens here too. No idea what's going wrong there. [12:34] hmm it works fine on slackware64-13.0 [12:34] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-49-105.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:34] Zero_ultimatum (n=maxzero5@117.199.163.164) left ##slackware. [12:34] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:34] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/RqZSkE24.html [12:35] substancev (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [12:35] thrice`: this is better then other distro.. i guess wireless connection at boot. [12:35] magic! glad it works :) [12:35] Thank you. [12:35] sure thing [12:35] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-49-105.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:36] thats what we are here for :-) [12:36] .. ok, sometimes we just reandomly insult people for the fun of it :P [12:37] http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware64-current/source/a/tar/ http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-current/source/a/tar/ [12:37] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [12:37] nice to know irssi came bundled [12:37] ahh.. i miss this look. [12:37] Pumpkins1979 (n=asdf@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) joined ##slackware. [12:38] substancev, it's a requirement :) [12:38] wtf all the patches are the same size...... [12:38] Action: substancev thinks he found a new home [12:38] rworkman: is it "file" ? [12:38] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [12:39] substancev: enjoy your stay.. now go make some coffee for us ;-) [12:39] Action: substancev pulls out his leather pouch. [12:39] Action: BP{k} holds out the c(_____________) [12:39] Action: substancev smells a skunky scent. [12:39] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-49-105.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:39] O_O [12:39] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [12:39] BP{k}: that is one biiiig.... cup.. [12:40] macavity: indeed. :D [12:40] [12:40] ArthurLancey: possibly [12:40] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:40] Action: substancev rolls up. [12:40] BP{k}: what does file say for your .tar.xz mine says Derp3.tar.xz: xz compressed data [12:42] ArthurLancey: same. [12:42] Elektro (n=elektr0@85.84.204.34) joined ##slackware. [12:42] BP{k}: upgrade to 13.0-current and try again :p [12:43] ArthurLancey: fail. [12:43] ArthurLancey: one uses seperate hardware for that. [12:43] err 64-current [12:43] Pumpkins1979 (n=asdf@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) left irc: "Leaving" [12:43] ok, i am on regular -current [12:44] nothing on -current has changed that could even affect it [12:44] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:44] tar: This does not look like a tar archive [12:44] ArthurLancey: one either runs 13.0 or -current ... not 13.0-current :P [12:44] ;) [12:44] i meant 64-current [12:44] but yes.. it unpacks none the less [12:45] anyway all the files and patches look the same [12:45] Action: BP{k} boots up slackware64-current on the laptop [12:47] be back soon. need to configure a vpn client then im all set for work [12:47] good luck [12:50] <:D~ [12:51] Pumpkins1979 (n=asdf@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) joined ##slackware. [12:51] for (p = magic + 2; p < magic + NMAGIC; p++)n if (memcmp (record_start->buffer, p->magic, p->length) == 0)n return p->type; [12:51] ArthurLancey: yep .. does the same error on slackware64-current (and my "-current" is from November 2). [12:53] why do they feel the need to make package managers "smart"? ='( [12:53] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:53] Zordrak: btw, nbd worked really well, actually it is still working well ;-) [12:53] Camarade_Tux: because they have to compensate for the fact that the users arent? [12:53] Camarade_Tux: "because people are stupid" (standard answer on 80% of all questions beginning with `why`) [12:53] { ct_xz, 6, "\0xFD7zXZ", "-J" }, [12:54] I removed the "gcc" package and now I can't install it anymore although the package is available >< [12:54] (cygwin btw) [12:57] rworkman: isnt magic supposed to be { ct_xz, 6, "\x37FD587a", "-J" }, not { ct_xz, 6, "\0xFD7zXZ", "-J" }, [12:57] err \0x of course [12:58] hmm maybe better to do it in octal since the LZMA has a fixme on it and it uses \x and we originally had \0x...which one is right lol [12:59] ill try compiling with { ct_xz, 8, "\x37FD587a", "-J" }, [12:59] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-49-105.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:59] file.xz.magic doesn't even get applied, it doesn't appear [12:59] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:01] Zordrak_ (n=jaz@87.194.141.163) joined ##slackware. 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[13:15] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [13:15] woohoo! its the deco! :P [13:15] corretico: \o/!! [13:16] grrrr macavity ^ [13:16] something is definately wrong with the order of how i resolve host names... seems like it stalls on every item loading in the browser [13:16] tab fail [13:16] got it. the tr thing.. ok. [13:16] deco: tabpwnd! [13:16] fire|bird: i just turned on my pc :P [13:16] substancev: type "route" and see if it takes ages before it completes [13:17] so it's a create and then -d [:cntrl:] .... I do seem to remember a way of doing it when creating the file..but maybe I'm wrong. thanks ArthurLancey [13:17] substancev: if that is the case, you might still have the wrong settings in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [13:17] deco: that's no excuse. :P [13:17] substancev: since you are using wicd now you should not have anything configured in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf at all [13:17] hey macavity, how are you? [13:17] fire|bird: fantastic.. as always :P [13:18] :) [13:18] that is my very nature you know [13:18] delays on the lo [13:18] macavity: and a good nature indeed. :P [13:18] rtcg (n=rtcg@static-71-164-174-18.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [13:18] cats are always fantastic [13:18] Hi fire|bird [13:18] macavity: ill check it in a few need to optimize my bash brb [13:18] even when we have just fallen off a windows ledge :P [13:18] hi Nick_Patterson [13:18] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:18] mitchx (n=mitchx@chello089077138008.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:19] RPMcmurphy (n=elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:19] RPMcmurphy (n=elliot@bzq-218-31-1.cablep.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [13:19] macavity: bah, you got nine lives, just fall off 8 times and you'll be alright. :P [13:20] qiubo [13:20] ze small tumblez off zeem windoez ledgez cannot keel one of mah lifez! [13:20] corretico: ????, sorry wrong nick [13:20] deco: btw, that has to be the worst tab incident i have seen to date :P [13:21] macavity: hey i just got up :P [13:21] dont worry deco. bye bye [13:21] corretico: ok , see ya [13:21] weirdo [13:21] Action: macavity gibslaps deco [13:21] Action: deco spanks macavity [13:21] you are not allowed to be rude untill you have had your coffee [13:22] macavity: i don't really drink coffee :/ [13:22] sometimes [13:22] and no, it is your turn to be the bottom :P [13:22] lol [13:22] RPMcmurphy (n=elliot@bzq-218-31-1.cablep.bezeqint.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:22] RPMcmurphy (n=elliot@bzq-218-31-1.cablep.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [13:22] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Success [13:22] Action: fire|bird slaps deco [13:22] macavity: you take turns? :P [13:23] sbopkg's update feature is nice [13:23] -_- [13:23] fire|bird: hmmm.. then who will hold the cam? 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[13:24] elliot98 (n=elliot@bzq-218-31-1.cablep.bezeqint.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:25] Action: macavity runs away [13:25] macavity: i don't wanna cyber ok [13:25] -_- [13:25] *giggle* [13:25] su -c "removepkg rpm" [13:25] there, that's taken care of. :P [13:25] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:25] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@d24-57-84-192.home.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:25] removepkg: ls: /var/log/packages/rpm*: no such file or directory [13:25] who uses sudo? [13:26] sudoers? [13:26] lol [13:26] who uses bash ? [13:26] bashers? [13:26] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-49-105.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:26] bashers :P [13:26] Scuzz: i honnestly though that word was offensive untill i saw the manpage... [13:27] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [13:27] what word ? [13:27] "sudoers" [13:27] hahah [13:27] my isp was driving me crazy today [13:28] what do you call zsh users ? [13:28] "wierd" [13:28] deco: zsher's, duh. :P [13:28] the person on the phone had a hard time trying to figure out what my complaint was about their dns servers [13:28] hackers [13:28] macavity: excuse me? :P [13:28] Action: macavity ducs [13:28] *ducks [13:28] what isp [13:28] lol [13:28] cogeco [13:28] use opendns or opennicproject [13:29] macavity: yeah, you better duck.....and run too. :P [13:29] opennic > opendns [13:29] ArthurLancey: is it faster? [13:29] ArthurLancey, i did , and that was my proof that their dns servers sucked [13:29] i was getting 19 to 30 % packet loss pinging their nameservers [13:29] substancev: uhm, who was your ISP again? [13:29] macavity: its fast...and doesnt hijack server not found with a search page [13:30] ArthurLancey: kthx! [13:30] macavity, Optonline... never had this problem in other distro's.. i will test in a couple hours at work to see if i get the same results [13:30] macavity: and lots of the servers have no logs [13:30] after the phone call i lost service for about 20 minutes now all is well [13:30] http://www.opennicproject.org/index.php/start-here/51-migrate-to-opennic/75-public-dns [13:31] dTd (n=dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:32] ohhh.. nice shit [13:33] DE is close enough [13:34] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:34] where are you [13:34] DK [13:34] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-67-181.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:34] its the same backbone [13:35] dTd (n=dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:35] Hello [13:36] Nick_Patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-trupmhljuuqvokpw) left irc: "Page closed" [13:36] hologram (n=hologram@ip68-228-56-113.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:39] rhys (n=quassel@66.102.98.215.ip.anet.com) joined ##slackware. [13:39] i like how #php blocks everyone [13:40] guess they get abused a lot [13:41] ArthurLancey: nah , you have to have your nick registered [13:41] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [13:41] to gain access [13:41] ArthurLancey: this is funny.. with opendns, "registration.geek" went to their site [13:41] ArthurLancey: with opennic it obviously doesnt :P [13:41] yeah they hijack....google ads and crap [13:42] interesting [13:42] perhaps one ought to tell the piratebay advocates to stop helping opendns by constantly quoting them as the way around a DNS level block [13:42] tgm (n=tgm@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [13:43] but.. is .geek a valid TLD? [13:43] noo, the piratebay is good :) [13:43] they used to run slamd64 on some servers [13:43] How can I create a new hotkey in KDE-4.2? [13:44] I am trying to migrate to 13.0 and like to use F12 for terminal. [13:44] I've looked through the GUI menus and haven't found anything yet. [13:45] Anyone found out how to do this yet? [13:47] tgm: /etc/inittab ? [13:47] tgm, I don't use kde, sorry, but I know there is a keyboard shortcuts in the control center [13:47] if i had a web page i could get www.macavity.geek registered :P [13:47] tgm: /sbin/agetty 38400 tty12 linux [13:47] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [13:47] ArthurLancey, I think he means, when he pushes f12, Konsole pops up [13:48] tgm : system settings > input actions [13:48] add anything you want [13:48] F12 [13:48] i jsut added terminal with F12 myself [13:48] or install yakuake [13:48] that is the yakuake default key [13:49] Man-erg (n=Man-erg@host-62-10-71-147.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:49] Don't see "input actions" [13:49] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:50] Scuzz: System Settings > ????? _________ [13:50] when you click the kde menu icon in the bottom left corner , you will see System Settings [13:51] why oh why did i get the bright idea to update qemu.. it takes eons to compile [13:51] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-49-105.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:51] macavity: takes 3 minutes here :) [13:51] Camarade_Tux: that's because you have nabucho :P [13:51] i even forgot MAKEOPTS [13:52] macavity: slackbuild? [13:52] so no -j here [13:52] deco: ^^ [13:52] sbopkg [13:52] macavity: -j8 here :D [13:52] hologram (n=hologram@ip68-228-56-113.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:52] helps a lot ;-) [13:52] Camarade_Tux: I use -j9 [13:53] -j6 over network [13:53] I've been drilling all through System Settings - don't see it. Can you be a bit more specific? [13:53] oh yeah, I should really set up icecream here :) [13:53] I'd do -j11 or -j12 :) [13:53] yes you should ;) [13:53] tgm im running kde 4.3.3 [13:54] ChArLoK_16 (n=Abdurrah@188.247.10.227) joined ##slackware. [13:54] maybe thats the difference [13:54] Scuzz: O [13:54] fire|bird: you don't use -j9, -j9 is a forkbomb considering your machine :D [13:54] lol [13:54] Scuzz: Oh I found input actions. [13:54] lol [13:54] k [13:54] :P [13:54] Camarade_Tux: yes I do. :) [13:54] pprkut: that should give less than a 25% boost though (and that's *really* generous) [13:54] fire|bird: ^^ [13:55] Camarade_Tux: that's how I built the kernel the other day even, with -j9 [13:55] Reaver2 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [13:56] fire|bird: -j3 should be faster for you [13:56] When modifying hosts.allow, are the changes effective immediately? Or only on services started after the modification? (I imagine that all services which pay attention to the file must be restarted) [13:56] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) joined ##slackware. [13:56] Camarade_Tux: Hmm, I'll have to try that next time. :) [13:57] Camarade_Tux: 3 identical machines should build the pile twice as fast as a single machine [13:57] slackie (n=x@87.196.233.0) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:57] GammalSokk (n=johskar@84.48.41.137) joined ##slackware. [13:57] gutts (n=gutts@ALyon-252-1-21-179.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:57] slackie (n=x@87.196.233.0) joined ##slackware. [13:57] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-49-105.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:57] GammalSokk (n=johskar@84.48.41.137) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [13:57] Scuzz: But find no way to add a hotkey action. (I've been here before and have drilled through this part as well and have not found it.) [13:58] GammalSokk (n=johskar@137.84-48-41.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [13:58] clcik edit in the bottom left corner [13:58] and hit new [13:58] name the keys [13:58] pprkut: one is a phenom II X4 955 (3.2GHz), the other one is a dual-core T5450 (1.66GHz), the second machine is at least four times slower than the first [13:58] would also like Print Scrn to bring up ksnapshot [13:58] nathanbw: it's immediate...the hosts.x files are for access control and are read real time. [13:59] Camarade_Tux: I can guarantee you that the speed up of building on the slowest one is more than 25% :P [14:00] pprkut: ^^ [14:00] tgm you can add anything you want from that menu [14:00] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@67.170.39.104) joined ##slackware. [14:00] pprkut: it's rather the other way round ;p [14:00] brb [14:00] haha, thought so [14:01] I compile on both my nodes, one building 64bit packages, the other building 32bit packages. Network-cross-compile ftw! \o/ [14:02] Hey I found it. You just right click somewhere in that window and you get a context menu that includes the option for: "New Global Shortcut" -> Command/URL [14:02] yep [14:06] Scuzz: Thx [14:06] np [14:12] ViN86 (n=ViN86@BAZANTGROUP.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [14:13] pprkut: beat you: nbd from this computer to boot the windows which is on sda1 with the other computer inside qemu-kvm in order to compile a program :) [14:15] bah. Equal at most :P [14:15] akSeya (n=psycho@187-26-91-154.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:15] don't worry, that's only a start ;) [14:15] samuelig (n=samuelig@108.pool85-57-152.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [14:15] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [14:16] Hello Camarade_Tux =) [14:16] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:16] hi fredoslack [14:17] gotta go, bbl :) [14:17] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [14:17] later Camarade_Tux :) [14:18] Camarade_Tux: what? A competition on who can configure the most complicated setup for compiling apps? :D [14:18] lol [14:19] Elektro_ (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [14:20] Anyone have any idea why the kickoff aplpication launcher icon and klipboard icons would disappear in Slackware 13 KDE? [14:21] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.84.56) joined ##slackware. [14:22] it's obviously a consiracy [14:22] conspiracy even [14:23] my cpu is hot [14:25] Elektro (n=elektr0@85.84.204.34) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [14:25] samuelig (n=samuelig@108.pool85-57-152.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:26] CornFedHonky: kde4 is an inside job. [14:27] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-49-105.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:28] I really have no idea what happened. I just set up this isntall today. Went to lunch and came back and BAM no icons [14:29] gnomes stole em [14:29] or gremlins [14:29] ViN86 (n=ViN86@BAZANTGROUP.MIT.EDU) left irc: "Leaving" [14:29] It wuold not surprise me, I do have a gnome problem [14:30] CornFedHonky: you could try deleting ur ~/.kde ? [14:30] akSeya (n=psycho@187-26-11-116.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:30] to restore default kde settings [14:30] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [14:31] and answering your question ... i've no idea what could make that [14:31] I'm new to linux....like today. How wuold i go about that? [14:31] substancev (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:31] CornFedHonky: did you upgrade to -current? [14:32] no not to current but i did run upgrade on all my packages [14:32] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.255.9.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:32] the guy that was kind of helping me through the process had to run out [14:33] so im kinda stuck atm =) [14:33] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [14:33] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:38] well shit =\ [14:38] I WAS having fun =( [14:39] CornFedHonky: I'm at work atm but I might be able to help in a bit [14:39] That would be awesome =) [14:40] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [14:41] i would help but i dont use kde-4.x so i dont know enough about it other than deleing ~/.kde like x-ip said [14:41] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.76.237) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:42] i would give it a shot but i dont know how to go about it [14:42] im still learning to use text editors lol [14:42] .local and .cache are another you could delete or rename to see if it fixes it. [14:42] also make a new "test" user and see if you have the same problem. [14:42] CornFedHonky: just delete, with rm -rf [14:42] i did try that [14:42] and same display [14:43] well i guess i dont know where ~\.kde is [14:43] CornFedHonky: that's in /home/yourname [14:43] err ~/.kde [14:43] ~/ is your home dir. [14:43] oh ok maybe ill try that out, can i be logged in as that use when doing it? [14:43] aka /home/cornfedhonky [14:43] hologram (n=hologram@ip68-228-56-113.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:43] simplt at a shell write: rm -rf ~/.kde [14:44] and thats all =) [14:44] '~/' <-- means ur home directory [14:44] CornFedHonky: yes, and then log out and back in. [14:44] ok im booting back into linux to try it out =) [14:44] thanks =) [14:44] logging out before is advisable [14:44] i gotcha, sorry im still so used to windows [14:44] some apps write config files on exit, so you might end up with the same borked config again [14:44] but if he created a test user and he was still having the same problem, it's not going to be anything related to his .kde folder. [14:44] you mean delete it BEFORE i startx [14:45] agentc0re: hmm, gotcha [14:45] agentcore: I lied. I didnt really create a test user I just tried logging in as root aside from my user account [14:45] CornFedHonky: what did you update? how did you do this and why? were you updating from 12.2 to 13.0? [14:45] :o [14:45] no i installed 13 [14:46] i just did an update all on my ummm i cant remember the name of it right now but the slackware package manager [14:46] it updated all my packages u know? [14:46] CornFedHonky: not necessarily before startx, just outside of kde (eg fluxbox or xfce) with no kde app running [14:46] pprkut: sorry u lost me, I just started linux today lol [14:46] haha, no problem [14:47] so im booting up right now and have not done startx yet [14:47] delete the ~./kde? [14:47] then delete the folder now :) [14:47] yes [14:48] k did it *crosses fingers* [14:48] CornFedHonky: Before you go any further i suggest reading the slackbook. If you can't tell us what you ran, 1) you shouldn't be running it, 2)it'll be hard to figure out exactly what you actually did to determine if it is an issue or not. [14:48] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.76.237) joined ##slackware. [14:48] CornFedHonky: was that slackpkg or slapt-get ? (the former being recommended and the latter being devilspawn) [14:48] CornFedHonky: do /topic and the slackbook link is there. [14:49] agentc0re: I did print out the slackbook and bound it today. I had macavity helping me earlier today but he had to step out [14:49] So I may not know what i was running, but I guess he did hehe [14:49] Annnnd, dammit didn't work [14:49] I understood the principle of it, if that counts [14:50] so the update "thing" was something macavity told you to run? [14:50] yes, it updated all my current packages that i have installed [14:50] slackpkg upgrade-all [14:50] is what i ran [14:51] and slackpkg update [14:53] nothing too serious right? [14:53] just updating my installed programs? [14:53] yes, that's fine. [14:53] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:54] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [14:55] hologram (n=hologram@ip68-228-56-113.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:55] So yeah, deleting my ~/.kde didn't work out. If anyone has some time to spend with a noob feel free to let me know. I promise I'm not as dumb as I sound haha =) [14:55] CornFedHonky: you could try slackpkg clean-system and see if that fixes your problem. But i would start with creating a new user to see if the problem persists. If not, it's something with the current user and is most likely your .kde folder and/or .local [14:56] reinstall slackware [14:56] Action: deco hindes [14:56] hides* [14:56] deco: no, that's dumb. [14:56] deco: that's rediculous. [14:56] agentc0re: i like cats [14:57] ha [14:57] y0 agentc0re, how goes? [14:57] I'm going to try that now agentc0re. Ty [14:57] fire|bird: bleh.. sick. i haven't been this sick for a while. [14:57] CornFedHonky: try the new user first. [14:57] deco: Slackware does not need reinstallatio unless you've *seriously* broken something. [14:57] agentc0re: dang, hope ya get better soon. [14:58] like "removepkg fileutils" [14:58] thats fun ^^ [14:58] eviljames: like installing gnome :P , i had to for that one [14:58] fire|bird: thanks. me too. [14:58] lol [14:58] Action: x-ip likes gnome =) [14:58] hahahah great answer. [14:58] yeah agent that's what i meant, just made one and trying it now =) [14:59] deco: Installing gnome *would* be what I consider to be irrepairably broken. :P [14:59] eviljames++ [14:59] agentc0re: made a test user and logged in, same display problem. [15:00] eviljames: haha, agreed, I've been there done that. :P [15:00] try the slackpkg clean-system ??? [15:01] and does that need to be run as root? [15:01] CornFedHonky: let me just make sure i understand this, the problem is that 2 tray icon's disappear after you login? [15:01] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-49-105.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:01] ok, one juicy burgar latar :-) [15:02] yep basically, for lack of better terms the "K start button" disappears and the "Klipboard" icon in the system tray disappears [15:02] sorry for the windows terms, I dont know the correct trminology =\ [15:02] i hover over it and it's still there, but no icons [15:02] slackpkg install xygen-icons [15:02] i think [15:02] i can still click them etc... [15:02] no wait.. hang on [15:02] yay it's my hero! [15:03] oooh a juicy burger.. fsck macavity you made my fat butt hungry again [15:03] macavity: oxygen-icons [15:03] fire|bird++ [15:03] i would still do clean-system. who knows what else is messed up and why. [15:03] wouldn't then be more missing? [15:03] he is on slackware64 and i told him to slackpkg upgrade-all [15:04] ya, but why would that have broken this? [15:04] Action: macavity fetches the 13.0 changelog [15:04] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:04] agentc0re: his composite isnt working either, so it *could* be another issue [15:04] maybe his mirrors were set to a x86 mirror instead of a x86_64? [15:05] is the composite what you cal the button? [15:05] nope i got the slackware 13 64 mirror [15:05] Pumpkins1979 (n=asdf@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) left irc: "Leaving" [15:05] i sure of that one =) [15:05] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-34-175-102.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:06] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-67-181.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [15:06] CornFedHonky: you said that you saw kde-something flash by? [15:07] i did [15:07] that is, when we did slackpkg upgrade-all [15:07] when we were talknig about how long it had left [15:07] it was on kde something [15:07] yes [15:08] ok, you need to double check that you have the mirror set to slackware64-13.0/ and not slackware64-current/ [15:08] ok what was the command to get in that file one more time? [15:08] hey, how do i track user activity? i mean the shell commands they use [15:08] nano /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [15:08] mitchx: collect their ~/.bash_history? [15:09] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-67-181.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:09] i know but they can change it [15:09] oh......fuck [15:09] is it possible to make it somehow append-only? [15:09] CornFedHonky: no worries [15:09] and what if they change the shell [15:09] from bash [15:09] rahit12 (n=ghost@78.90.113.108) joined ##slackware. [15:09] what i di was pick slack 64 current [15:09] to sth else [15:10] brbFOOD [15:10] instead of 13 [15:10] CornFedHonky: slackpkg install-new [15:10] do it now [15:10] make[2]: *** [/usr/src/modules/gspca/gspca_core.o] Error 1 [15:10] make[1]: *** [_module_/usr/src/modules/gspca] Error 2 [15:10] make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.31.6' [15:10] Channel flood from rahit12 -- kicking [15:10] makerc: *** [default] Error 2 [15:10] rahit12 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [15:10] The-spiki (n=spiki@212.200.169.13) joined ##slackware. [15:10] rahit12 (n=ghost@78.90.113.108) joined ##slackware. [15:10] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.255.9.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:10] who can help? [15:10] doing it now, thank you [15:10] rahit12: it is called a p-a-s-t-e-b-i-n [15:10] rahit12: pls use pastebin [15:10] rahit12 (n=ghost@78.90.113.108) left ##slackware. [15:10] and i will change that file to the correct mirror when im done [15:11] macavity: haha, scared him off. :P [15:11] rahit12 (n=ghost@78.90.113.108) joined ##slackware. [15:11] re [15:11] who can help [15:11] sorry [15:11] macavity: i'm on console [15:11] rahit12: take a ticket.. CornFedHonky needs it first :P [15:11] cornfedhonky? [15:11] me [15:11] =) [15:11] CornFedHonky: do you still have the sbopkg package file around? [15:12] macavity: it looks like it completed, should i of changed the file before or after that? [15:12] rahit12: what's wrong ? [15:12] dont change.. [15:12] i never dl'ed it, we hadnt got that far [15:12] CornFedHonky: now, slackpkg clean-system [15:12] i can go grab it [15:12] rahit12: well what you pasted doesn't even show the error as to why whatever the hell you are building is failing. [15:12] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:12] CornFedHonky: it should say "sbopkg" and "mplayerthumbs" [15:12] I am pretty sure there is away to pastebin from a console too. [15:12] agentc0re: building a kernel it appears. [15:13] i see playerthumbs-1.2-x86_64-2 [15:13] rahit12: your the guy with the sonixj module problem? [15:13] no sbopkg [15:13] CornFedHonky: ok, good, let it kill mpleyrthumbs then [15:13] macavity: yes [15:13] Nick change: rahit12 -> jeronimo__ [15:13] Nick change: jeronimo__ -> jeronimo_ [15:14] jeronimo__: i will walk you over it in just a seccond.. it is rather simple [15:14] macavity: done. [15:14] CornFedHonky: slackpkg reinstall kdemultimedia [15:14] SpacePlod, re: hosts.allow. Thanks! [15:15] macavity: done. [15:15] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:15] CornFedHonky: did you get sbopkg installed? [15:15] or just downloaded? [15:15] i havent even downloaded it [15:15] should i go ahead and do that? [15:15] ok [15:15] and do i need to change that file to the correct release yet for slackpkg? [15:16] or leave it alone [15:16] wget http://sbopkg.googlecode.com/files/sbopkg-0.31.0.tar.gz [15:16] akSeya (n=psycho@187-26-11-116.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:16] leave it alone [15:16] -current is in a very very good shape these days, and congrats, you just got KDE-4.3.3 for free :P [15:16] macavity: got it [15:17] hooray for me! [15:17] =) [15:17] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.76.165) joined ##slackware. [15:17] but still no icons =( [15:17] slackpkg install-new [15:17] if we didnt already.. [15:18] that was the first command we did =) [15:18] ok [15:18] alt-ctrl-backspace [15:18] startx [15:19] you just learned the *fast* way out of X :P [15:19] glorious icons!!!! [15:19] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-67-181.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [15:19] they are so beautiful..... [15:19] that one cought me with my pants down too [15:19] haha [15:19] thieusoai (i=406a15b3@gateway/web/freenode/x-yhkbuluhoetphkwv) joined ##slackware. [15:19] fatalnix1995: Module gspca not found. [15:19] fatal.. [15:20] jeronimo_: did you use /boot/config-generic-smp-2.6.29.6-smp as a template? [15:20] macavity: so we did or did not install sbookg? lol [15:20] macavity: yes [15:20] CornFedHonky: i dont know.. did you? :P [15:20] oh sorry I will let you help him, ive used up enough of your time =) [15:20] I apparently didnt lol [15:20] jeronimo_: and you have everything set to either Y or M? [15:20] CornFedHonky: sbopkg.org [15:21] CornFedHonky: download the .txz and use installpkg on it (as root), and tell me when you are done :P [15:21] macavity: didnt i download it with: wget http://sbopkg.googlecode.com/files/sbopkg-0.31.0.tar.gz [15:21] macavity: [15:21] macavity: i need to load it? [15:21] CornFedHonky: yes, good [15:21] jeronimo_: no, i mean *everything* in the kernel.. did you start shaving stuff off that you dont think you need? [15:22] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:22] jeronimo_: like rediculous crap such is Dallas-1bit-wire, SMBus, i2c, MSI/MSI-x and such? [15:22] yes [15:23] that was probably not such a good idea [15:23] oh [15:23] NO! [15:23] Nick change: ArthurLancey -> PedoBaiter [15:23] macavity: what is the name of modules gspca i want to load it [15:23] no, you did not disable things that Patrick has enabled? [15:24] LitesterB (n=Litester@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [15:24] fredoslack (n=fredosla@86.205.210.181) joined ##slackware. [15:24] macavity: yes [15:24] Nick change: PedoBaiter -> PredoBaiter [15:25] i can't install gspca... [15:25] there is no module called gspca by itself [15:25] there is gspca_main [15:25] yes [15:25] buyt nothing [15:25] i have fatal error [15:25] but i think that is supposed to be loaded automatically when you load gspca_sonixj [15:26] i dont know what you did wrong :-/ [15:26] i have it build right here [15:26] i just enabled everything and ran "make modules" [15:27] win 3 [15:27] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) left irc: "!!!" [15:27] is just out! [15:27] windows 3.1?!? [15:27] jeronimo_: and this is on an unpatched kernel-tree, right? [15:27] yes [15:28] http://pastebin.com/m302d4680 [15:28] jeronimo_: you are not trying to build some out-of-tree driver, right? [15:28] yeste [15:28] :") [15:28] Nick change: PredoBaiter -> ArthurLancey [15:28] yes you are! [15:28] macavity: i do believe i did it =) [15:28] jeronimo_: Go ask the people that make that out of tree driver. [15:28] what is this crap?!? [15:29] macavity: i cuold only find a .tgz not a .txz is that ok? [15:29] jeronimo_: that is *not* a full kernel tree [15:29] it installed tho [15:29] yes, that is fine [15:29] macavity: why [15:29] sbopkg is backwards compatible with older releases [15:29] jeronimo_: Because A is A. [15:29] jeronimo_: ./gspca_build? [15:29] yes [15:30] script.. [15:30] ghost:/usr/src/modules/gspca# ./gspca_build [15:30] that *clearly* indicates that something is totally wacked out... [15:30] macavity: he is a cop, dont help him [15:30] hahahah [15:31] again, i asked you to take a linux-2.6.31.6.tar.gz file and unpack it [15:31] then cp /boot/config-generic-smp-2.6.29.6-smp /path/to/source/.config [15:31] then cd /path/to/source/ [15:31] then make oldconfig [15:31] mancha: btw, wrote the tool - http://fred.uwcs.co.uk/bs_grep.cpp [15:32] jeronimo_: Your report card contained the words "Does not follow instructions." didn't it? [15:32] then old down the enter button untill it stops asking questions [15:32] then make menuconfig [15:32] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [15:32] macavity: ok .. [15:32] then make [15:32] i know i know [15:32] then make modules_install [15:32] mancha: -f being field (like cut), -r counts fields from end (eg -r -f 1 gives you the last field), -s is the first value, -e is the end value [15:32] rhys (n=quassel@66.102.98.215.ip.anet.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:32] then cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/my-new-kernel-image [15:32] etc etc [15:33] jeronimo_: no shortcuts.. and no ubuntu derived patch trees to be shoehorned back into the wrong kernel version [15:33] CornFedHonky: thats good man [15:33] CornFedHonky: now play with sbopkg and get your conky :P [15:33] CornFedHonky: hint, you need to "Rsync" before you can do anything [15:34] lmfao [15:34] Action: CornFedHonky shakes his fist in the air [15:34] [ArthurLancey(i=189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-vzrtuhnbfvkszgtp)] it means, FUCK YOU [15:34] [ArthurLancey(i=189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-vzrtuhnbfvkszgtp)] fucking moron [15:35] what a shame [15:35] jeronimo_: What the hell are you going on about? [15:35] what a moron [15:35] Alan_Hicks: i don't know this boy is a crazy [15:36] ArthurLancey: where u from [15:36] jeronimo_: mars [15:36] I'm not entirely certain that he's the crazy one. [15:37] ArthurLancey: u are for juge [15:37] everyone is crazy, just that some people are more crazy than usual [15:37] if u have 18 [15:37] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@81.57.177.108) joined ##slackware. [15:37] cant i turn my back on you kids for freaking thirty secconds?!? :P [15:37] everyone is crazy but some are sick [15:37] lol [15:37] jeronimo_: Do you even know what you're trying to say? [15:38] Action: macavity raises his hand [15:38] NO U ARE FOR JUGE IF YOU HAVE 18! [15:38] OP? [15:38] ArthurLancey: No man.... No. Don't stoop to his level. He'll beat you with experience. [15:39] wow, upper-case communications. I've waited all my life for this kind of action [15:39] Alan_Hicks: please.. give me OP for just 0.136 secconds... [15:39] macavity: Sorry. [15:39] 0.0136 then? :P [15:39] My fingers aren't that fast. [15:40] no.. but my script is :P [15:40] so, jeronimo do you know what to do now? [15:40] ArthurLancey: /part [15:40] macavity: yes [15:41] macavity: PM? [15:41] surreal [15:41] jeronimo_: oh, and one more ting, if you dont ignore him but keep fighting with him i will *never* help you again... period [15:41] Alan_Hicks: always :-) [15:41] macavity: ok [15:42] Now, everyone gonna play nice now? No more stupid shit? [15:43] i think i just drove that one across :P [15:43] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-233-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:43] giuppy (n=giuppy@82.55.163.45) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [15:43] [ArthurLancey(i=189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-vzrtuhnbfvkszgtp)] FUCK YOU, FUCK macavity [15:43] ok.. why is my lag slowly climbing? [15:44] Ok, that's all I needed to know. [15:44] [ArthurLancey(i=189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-vzrtuhnbfvkszgtp)] that is you're friend fuck off [15:44] ummm.......... [15:44] ##slackware: mode change '+o Alan_Hicks' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [15:44] Action: macavity puts on the helmet [15:44] jeronimo_ kicked from ##slackware by Alan_Hicks: Alan_Hicks [15:44] \o/ [15:44] \o/ [15:44] jeronimo_ (n=ghost@78.90.113.108) joined ##slackware. [15:45] o_O [15:45] jeronimo_: I will ban if it continues. [15:45] O_o [15:45] macavity: what's that hole in your helmet? what happened? :P [15:45] either i dont get the above copy/paste, or something is at serious foul play here?!? [15:45] The-spiki (n=spiki@212.200.169.13) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:45] i just stay here normally and 1 man is fucking me on private all of the time [15:45] macavity: its fake [15:45] jeronimo_ and ArthurLancey is having a bitch contest [15:45] she is talking about morons and slackware [15:45] bad words [15:46] fredoslack (n=fredosla@86.205.210.181) left irc: "Leaving" [15:46] #slackware i mean [15:46] jeronimo_: i said /ignore [15:46] period [15:46] jeronimo_: Cry me a river. It's called /ignore. [15:46] no more aguing, no more telling the adults who it was that started [15:46] ok [15:46] jeronimo_: hardly worth spamming it in the channel. [15:46] type /ignore ArthurLancey [15:47] physiker (n=christia@kobz-590d68ef.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [15:47] For the record, I haven't seen ArthurLancey do anything wrong so far, but even if he had, you should be man enough to ignore him if you think he's a bitch. [15:47] -:- ArthurLancey!*@* is not being ignored! [15:47] ops [15:47] hologram (n=hologram@ip68-228-56-113.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:47] -:- Now ignoring.. [15:47] *sigh* [15:47] >_< [15:50] macavity: I got conky running, im pretty much a linux pro now [15:50] CornFedHonky: "Pro" just means you're paid to do it. :-p [15:50] let me know if u ever need any tips haha =) [15:50] lol [15:50] shouldnt slackbuilds.org link to sbopkg [15:51] CornFedHonky: negatory.... [15:51] hahaha [15:51] =) [15:51] ArthurLancey: sbopkg is not even in version 1.0 yet :P [15:52] Thanks again for all your today macavity...you are a life saver =) [15:52] ArthurLancey: and is not "the official" frontend sanctioned by slackbuilds.org anyhow [15:52] yup, that's him "macavity.....Life Saver" [15:52] xterm is the official front end? [15:52] CornFedHonky: your very wellcome.. dont forget to read every single URL in the topic line here [15:53] jeronimo_ (n=ghost@78.90.113.108) left irc: "I used to have a drinking problem. Now I love the stuff." [15:53] oh, hadnt thought of that. Will do [15:53] fire|bird: what are you greasing up for? ;-) [15:53] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [15:53] macavity: :o [15:53] macavity: for some reason, I expected you to say something along those lines. :P [15:54] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:54] fire|bird: ohh.. i get ze hoochy coochy tonite? [15:54] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:54] whens the php security patch come out :p [15:54] macavity: I don't know, you'll have to ask your gf about that. :P [15:55] damn.. i though i could get a little on the side here! [15:55] I am trying to set up a SFTP server using openssh. I made a user that belongs to "sftp" group with the home in /home/user and shell as /bin/false [15:55] macavity: Well not on this side you won't. :P [15:55] Azeotrope: i dont think you need to be in a group....... [15:56] then I created as root rsa keys, moved them to ~/.ssh changed owner and permissions, made the authorized_keys file with the pubkey in it [15:56] Azeotrope: it should just work...try it with winscp or filezilla [15:57] I tried, over a VirtualBox windows machine. but no way it works with that shell [15:57] only bin/bash [15:57] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@81.57.177.108) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:58] rm http://slackwaregallery.org/albums/userpics/* -R [15:59] my questions are: how can i restrict the user to it's home directory, how can i enable RSA authentfication with that shell, cause it won't work, only password, [15:59] any recommendations on good bluetooth tutorial for 13.0 ? [15:59] found some old 10.2 stuff but... [16:00] fhobia: slackwiki.org has a bluetooth article, it worked well on 13 for me. [16:00] ah, thanks, i'll check that out [16:01] ##slackware: mode change '-o Alan_Hicks' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [16:02] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] any help, please? [16:03] joey_jones (n=peter@212.183.140.37) joined ##slackware. [16:04] Azeotrope: echo "/bin/false" >> /etc/shells [16:05] Alan_Hicks: did that [16:06] Still don't work? [16:06] also with /usr/lib/sftp-server [16:07] cbpye (n=cbpye@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:08] Ok. If i have a sftp user that will connect with keyfiles it's normal to have in it's home a .ssh with authorized keyfiles, don't they? [16:08] Yes. [16:08] thieusoai (i=406a15b3@gateway/web/freenode/x-yhkbuluhoetphkwv) left irc: "Page closed" [16:10] In sshd config root login is disabled, password auth set to no, rsa set to yes, AllowUsers and Allowgroups are set with the users for ssh and sftp. [16:10] also i have a line Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/sftp-server [16:11] DarkGable (n=ray@76.114.161.73) joined ##slackware. [16:11] Azeotrope: That sounds correct. What happens when you change the users shell to bash? Everything work? [16:12] physiker (n=christia@kobz-590d68ef.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: "Verlassend" [16:12] And this stanza, commented because if I uncomment it i get errors both with filezilla and winscp http://pastebin.org/56850 [16:12] Alan_Hicks: yes [16:13] Azeotrope: Then all you need to figure out is why openssh isn't working when the user's shell in /bin/false. [16:13] it works but it won't work anymore if I uncomment the aforementioned stanza [16:13] Azeotrope: You may (though I doubt it) need to restart openssh in order to get it to reread /etc/shells. [16:13] huh? [16:14] i restarted every time i modified something [16:15] Azeotrope: grep sftp /etc/shells [16:16] xsamurai (n=fahad@69.43.199.101) joined ##slackware. [16:16] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-67-181.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:17] i get this /usr/lib/stfp-server [16:18] isnt it actually /usr/libexec [16:25] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "Ho_çakal1n | Bye bye" [16:25] Azeotrope: is it for file-transfer only? [16:26] Does anyone know where I might find the Conky "readme" file in Slackware 13, I am trying to install some scripts and apparently they are in the readme file =) [16:26] Yes [16:26] I get this if i set /bin/false [16:26] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Success [16:27] Cannot initialize SFTP Protocol. Is the hos running a sftp server? [16:27] I'm not sure you can have it as /bin/false, not in a straight forward manner at least [16:28] what should i have then? [16:28] you can use rssh which is a resticted shell [16:28] http://pizzashack.org/rssh/ [16:29] but I haven't used it for a while [16:29] ding ding ding [16:30] http://freshmeat.net/search?q=restricted+shell&submit=Search [16:31] what happens if i comment AuthorizedKeysFile %h/.ssh/authorized_keys [16:32] http://www.gnu.org/software/rush/ [16:32] Azeotrope: what happens if you comment AuthorizedKeysFile %h/.ssh/authorized_keys [16:32] fucking ubuntu...all the walkthroughs online are for it =( [16:33] CornFedHonky: many of those walkthroughs are pretty well valid for Slackware as well.. just ignore any bits that have to do with gnome or aptitude [16:33] orly? [16:33] why ty [16:33] ConfFedHonky: Stay away from the ubuntu ones... blind leading the blind or something like that [16:34] well now im confused [16:34] lol [16:34] That's a pretty good counterbalance to my statement :P [16:34] anyone know how to install conky scripts? [16:34] unless it's ubuntu documentation (and not forums or something), it might be bad. gentoo + arch docs can be good too [16:34] yup [16:34] fire|bird: ping [16:34] eviljames: pong [16:34] i just wanna install my conky scripts and all will be well in my world =) [16:34] cmk_zzz makes a good point, that there is a bit of blind leading blind going on in the ubuntu forums. [16:34] fire|bird: Do you have any good docs on conky, or is the man page where it's at? [16:34] a bit? [16:35] well. Lets say it like this. *some* of the ubuntu walkthroughs are probably fine. But you need to be careful about the sources [16:35] thumbs: There has to be *at least* one knowledgable ubuntu user out there. [16:35] The number is definitely >= 1 anyhow. [16:36] eviljames: I'd say man page and looking at various configs online. [16:36] CornFedHonky: I assume someone has shouted "check the man page" about something at you by this point in time? [16:36] fuck it, it won't work for me [16:36] eviljames: you mean, the ubuntu version of Patrick? :P [16:37] eviljames: i always forget about the man pages....I will just slink away in shame now. kthx [16:37] CornFedHonky: Never forget about man pages.. I recognize that you're still learning, so this is going to be the most important tip anyone gives you. [16:37] CornFedHonky: Never forget about man pages. [16:38] CornFedHonky: dont slink away in shame.. RTFM in good spirit ;-) [16:38] I always expect only OS commands to have man pages = [16:38] =) [16:38] CornFedHonky: and always remember: solve one little puzzle at the time [16:38] =P [16:39] never focus on the end goal.. that becomes on unmanagable in a system with more than 5000 commands [16:39] Rest assured, I will never forget about man pages again =) [16:39] very true macavity [16:39] it's a bit overwhelming [16:39] actually it is not [16:39] oh, but it is! [16:39] never hurts to look in /usr/doc too [16:39] each command does something very very specific [16:40] it's not difficult. conkyrc scripts are readily available on the net, place it ~/.conkyrc and start conky, be happy. [16:40] so, you just need to figure out what the tool you need is called [16:40] chopp++ [16:40] CornFedHonky: try "man -k editor" [16:40] "man apropos" is good too [16:41] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [16:42] i always get confused about how to spell that.. so man -k is faster for me [16:42] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@201.50.142.12) joined ##slackware. [16:43] One day you will see me helping someone in here, mark my words =) [16:43] true.. ok. man -k search |grep ^ap [16:44] sluckxz (n=sluckxz@unaffiliated/sluckxz) joined ##slackware. [16:44] Is it ok to have both AllowUser and AllowGroup in ssh config? [16:44] $(man -k search |grep ^ap |cut -d' ' -f 1) search |grep ^ap [16:44] Action: cmk_zzz is working himself up to an infinite loop [16:45] CornFedHonky: fire|bird said the same thing not long ago. [16:45] kostas (n=kostas@79.107.166.47) left irc: "Leaving" [16:45] fire|bird: and now you're an old pro :P [16:45] Server unexpedly closed connection. Authentification failed [16:45] LitesterB (n=Litester@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [16:46] eviljames: haha [16:46] Azeotrope: sshd_config right? [16:47] =) [16:47] if so, yes AllowUsers and AllowGroups are allowed. Users are checked before groups though [16:51] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [16:52] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. 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[17:35] wow, now I don't think I dare to look [17:35] something old folks played for music [17:35] made from vinyl [17:35] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.84.56) left irc: "Leaving." [17:36] hahaha, seriously? ppl don't know what vinyl is anymore? WOW, what is this, where is my hair??? and it is grey too! [17:37] i like CornFedHonky [17:37] considering that song a 45 RPM record is apropriate :) [17:37] gnubien (n=e@97.100.244.225) joined ##slackware. [17:37] ;) [17:37] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [17:37] still wish I had my parent's vinyls.. analog quality is great [17:38] wish I still had my old vinyl collection, ex-gf took it all when she moved out [17:38] some audiophiles believe digital can never get that depth [17:38] morning peoples [17:38] anyone using pekwm [17:38] besides my awesome ass [17:38] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL9mlqbG5CU <- METAL + CURLING = WIN. [17:39] mancha: some audiophiles believe they need to spend $200/foot for "directional" speaker cables, too [17:39] i mostly bounce around between a custom fvwm and openbox [17:39] i used extension cord for speaker wire, copper is copper [17:39] pekwm allows you to tab any windows together... [17:40] impedance matters [17:40] Urchlay: "directional" speaker cables... so electrons only flow one way? I don't think that'll work right :P [17:40] like fluxbox only sexier [17:40] 120 VAC lamp cord [17:41] eviljames: I know. The really rich dudes who are audiophiles, they have way more money than sense [17:41] Pig_Pen: That will work, but in a number of situations would not be ideal. ie: a LOT of power going through them, or if there's EM interference.. lamp cords aren't usually shielded. [17:41] speaker cables don't need to be shielded [17:42] StevenR (n=foo@wan2.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:42] I stand by my "depends on the situation" [17:42] i always use 16 guage for speakers [17:42] no high power, just a cheap stereo reciever, i listen to NPR with the volume low on it mostly [17:42] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:42] so hi-fidelity is not a concern for you [17:42] Pig_Pen: yeah, your situation doesn't really call for big fat shielded cabling. [17:43] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.22.239) joined ##slackware. [17:43] Urchlay: Those audiopiles (sic) definitely make little sense. I read a study somewhere that a full half of them can't tell the difference between cd audio and a 128kb mp3 [17:43] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.25.0) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:44] eviljames: half the time I can't either, but then I don't have a $10,000 receiver with $20,000 worth of speakers... [17:44] they did a big study in Sweden back in the days where some audio "experts" did a blind-test with different audio cables. The winner? A cheap lamp chord... [17:44] cmk_zzz: nice [17:44] cmk_zzz: what?!?! you mean I don't have to shell out $200 / ft for hand-braided copper wire?!@? [17:45] for $200/ft, it should be gold [17:45] hand braided by a hippy girl [17:45] indeed [17:45] ##slack-offtopic [17:45] despiron (n=1986saul@187.64.21.199) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:45] Pig_Pen: you strip the wire and there are pot seeds in there too? [17:45] yup [17:46] when the cable heats up it emits nice gases too [17:46] not if you play techno though [17:46] ArthurLancey: ##slackofftopic is generally for when there is off-topic discussion going on but an on-topic question gets asked. [17:46] ArthurLancey: Though it seems to be getting a collection of regulars :P [17:47] yeah i'd rather have silence in here or slackware talk [17:47] OH WELL [17:47] ArthurLancey (i=189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-vzrtuhnbfvkszgtp) left ##slackware. [17:47] the regulars in here quiet down when something important is being discussed [17:47] is it bad that I looked at his nick and read "ArthurLatency"? [17:48] lol [17:48] is it bad that I looked at what he said, and thought gfy? [17:48] lol poor guy [17:48] that's normal. [17:48] well I've got latency on my mind just lately [17:49] Urchlay: kernel didn't work ? [17:49] Kamel (n=1@c-66-177-36-4.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:49] nah, it does [17:49] cool [17:49] why isn't rt mainlined? [17:49] cause Linus doesn't want it to be, I think [17:50] non-answer [17:50] only answer I've run across [17:50] That is the correct answer from Linus. [17:51] why would you want to mainline rt? [17:51] nah, linus is a very sharp guy and many of the kernel devs are sharpo as well (not all). this means, as sharp people, they have intelligent reasons [17:51] chopp: It is encouraged that you look at what he said and thought "gfy". That would've been my response if he hadn't quit so soon :P [17:51] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [17:51] among the intelligent "just cuz" doesn't cut it [17:51] cmk_zzz: You wouldn't. Hence, Linus answer. [17:52] mancha: oh I'm sure they have good and valid reasons, I just don't know what they are (due to lack of motivation to really find out) [17:52] Urch, *nod*, i was reacting to eviljames' mainly right. [17:52] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:52] i understand you've not come across the real reasons...if you do let me know, seems like there are upsides i imagine some downsides i'm not able to grok [17:53] I did come across the real reasons [17:53] mancha: what is the reason to include it? [17:53] He and Con (or was it Ingo?) completely disagreed on this. [17:53] just cuz? [17:53] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.192) joined ##slackware. [17:53] cmk, becuase some tools need real time deadlines? [17:54] There are situations where you might watn to pre-empt kernel functions (ie: realtime performance), and there are other times that you do not. [17:54] i guess i don't get your question...is there more depth to it? [17:54] Generally speaking, afaict, you do not want the kernel always giving up its priority over some process that has just been nice'd or whatever. [17:55] eviljames: but, if you compile a rt-patched kernel with all the CONFIG_*_RT stuff turned off, you get... a normal kernel? [17:55] So, the people who specifically want that functionality can patch their kernel or use an rt kernel provided by their distro. [17:55] mancha: well as I see it, you don't really want a rt kernel in a general purpose OS? to me it makes more sense to keep it separate and use it when you need it [17:56] cmk that makes no sense to me [17:56] Kamel (n=1@c-66-177-36-4.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:56] ##slackware: mode change '+o Stx' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [17:56] you can always have more than one kernel installed [17:56] cmk_zzz: a lot of the A/V syncing would be a lot easier with real time guarentees [17:56] apoca (n=apoca@haydn.n2.nognu.de) left irc: "leaving" [17:56] apoca (n=a@haydn.n2.nognu.de) joined ##slackware. [17:56] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@74.86.163.22' by Stx!i=stx@freenode/staff/stx [17:56] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@74.86.163.22' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [17:57] Action: Stx smacks slackboy for having +enforcebans [17:57] ##slackware: mode change '-o Stx' by Stx!i=stx@freenode/staff/stx [17:57] Urch that's right, if the flags aren't set the code isn;'t active...much like a lot of other code in the kernel which cmk is happy to have mainlined [17:57] lol [17:57] see ya guys :) [17:57] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-1-250.33-151.iol.it) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [17:57] mancha: true [17:57] Action: cmk_zzz accepts defeat [17:58] Action: mancha puts a notch on the keyboard :P [17:59] still I only see the use of it for only very specific things. Even if A/V syncing is easier, something else will have to give it rt is enabled? [17:59] eviljames: hey, do you guys have a working draft of the slackware studio howto stuff somewhere? [18:00] Urchlay: http://seventakeone.com/studios/guide.html [18:01] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:01] subspaces|authenticator: thanks [18:01] errr, fire|bird [18:01] wow, quite a typo [18:01] I guess a slip can happen to anyone [18:02] cmk_zzz: but, for generic kernels where realtime isn't needed, it can just be turned off in the .config [18:02] lol [18:02] you're welcome extinction|unnaturally [18:02] err Urchlay [18:02] cmk_zzz: we're talking about having the realtime stuff in the kernel sources, not necessarily enabled by default [18:03] uhm, for workstation uses realtime stuff is pretty cool [18:04] actually, even if you have realtime enabled in the running kernel, it doesn't do much (anything?) unless you actually run apps with elevated priorities [18:05] i dont think you can actually make a "generic kernel" in any sense.. you can make a compromise that gives tolerable conditions for a large number of scenarios... but that isn't really the same as "a generic kernel" [18:05] I mean when I'm not running jackd and studio-type apps, my rt kernel seems to behave exactly like the non-rt one did [18:05] ("seems to" because I haven't done thorough testing though) [18:05] exactly [18:07] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:09] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:09] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:09] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) joined ##slackware. [18:12] speaking of the kernel, why does gnash take longer than the kernel to compile?? :) [18:12] because it is C++ [18:12] *nod* it takes forever. [18:13] and since it deals with ActionScript, i find it likely that it uses a shit load of Templates [18:14] oh, and it linkes to Boost, wich for sure uses a craptastic load of templates [18:14] i will be glad when html-5 makes all plugins obsolete! [18:14] so yes, it will be done compiling next year [18:14] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [18:14] Pig_Pen: you dont seriously belive that M$ will cease the oppotunity to fuck that up, do you? [18:14] DarkGable (n=ray@76.114.161.73) left irc: "Leaving" [18:15] html5 is the source of A LOT of dispute [18:15] StevenR (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:15] not just MS mac, apple is a big player in those controversies [18:15] i hope html-5 is something inevitable that microsoft has no control of [18:15] oh yes [18:15] i think apple might have been the one to pull the plug on ogg for example [18:16] ShaggyTDawg (n=ShaggyTD@74.51.115.110) joined ##slackware. [18:17] like trying to destroy Linux, microsoft could not do it and i hope they cant destroy the progress of html-5 either, something that cant be bought or destroyed [18:18] they have perverted html standards before.. so.. [18:18] they still have the biggest browser on the market :-/ [18:19] any recommendations on password storage software [18:19] i hope html-5 is something inevitable that microsoft has no control of <---- are you kidding? about the only control ms lacks is which colour does your poo have on sundays. (sorry for the PG-13 rating) [18:19] xsamurai: kwallet? [18:19] speaking of microsoft & browsers there is a new IE8 vulnerability i seen posted on /. [18:19] there's one thats cross compat (with windows). forget the name [18:19] macavity: enterprise level and windows based [18:20] why so worrysome, Pig_Pen ? [18:20] isn't that old news, or is there just yet another one today? [18:20] keepassx is cool cross platform [18:20] xsamurai: wrong crowd to ask [18:20] keepassx was the one i was thinking [18:20] Pig_Pen, none of us here uses ieweight. [18:20] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: [18:20] ShaggyTDawg (n=ShaggyTD@74.51.115.110) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]" [18:20] macavity: i know somebody here bends over to the window overlords at work as I do [18:21] well then, xsamurai, better safe than sorry. [18:21] xsamurai: infidels! :P [18:21] CornFed (n=Dont@cpe-174-101-199-63.cinci.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:21] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.230.123) joined ##slackware. [18:22] mancha: thanks i'll check out keepassx [18:22] jg71: if ie implements "html 4.8" and not 5.0, then most sites simply wont use the remaining cool 0.2 that makes sure we dont need webplayers and flash and whatnot [18:22] macavity, like i care ;) [18:22] jg71: the day IE drops below 40% we have it where it needs to be [18:22] yeah [18:23] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [18:23] there been times when i scripted IE detected and just displayed sicko porn. [18:23] jg71: then site developers starts pressing MS to follow standards... "get it up to speed, or we will say 'download firefox to see this site' to all IE users... period" [18:23] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [18:23] you gotta help push where you wanna feel a pull, i say [18:24] jeo (n=skljdf@c-24-5-73-175.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:24] that was -by the way- by no means related to edman007 [18:24] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:25] :( [18:25] Action: fire|bird waves hello to edman007 [18:25] Action: edman007 waves [18:25] indeed, that was positive edman007 [18:25] Action: edman007 pushes jg71 [18:25] jg71: dont give them sick porn.. just create a stop sign that says "Internet Explorer is a security hazard to both fubar-mysite.com and you. We can not let you pass this point in the system with IE. Please download the free and safe internet browser Firefox [here]" [18:26] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435764.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:27] macavity, by now i do. some sort of. sick sort of, to be precise cos our law makers voted for sicko stop signs instead of the right thong to snatch. well... you catch my drift. annoyance is a tool to not neglect [18:27] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [18:28] slackie (n=x@87.196.233.0) left irc: "Papaver Somniferum" [18:28] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@24.57.84.192) joined ##slackware. [18:28] jg71++ [18:32] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [18:33] Elektro_ (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Client Quit [18:34] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:34] sup all. [18:35] Q: What's everyones favorite RAID levels? [18:35] 10 [18:35] N/A [18:35] pprkut: good idea! :P ( pprkut : Camarade_Tux: what? A competition on who can configure the most complicated setup for compiling apps? :D ) [18:35] read my lips: raid is overraited [18:36] overraided? [18:36] is there a 10? [18:36] pprkut: I'm going to throw cross-compilation in, *and* cross-compilation with qemu! :P [18:36] theres 9.5 for sure [18:36] Action: Camarade_Tux wonders if he should also add a mips64 machine in the game :P [18:36] the only raid i use comes in a big green arisol can, i use it to kill spiders and scorpions [18:36] or 1+0: mirrored + striped, the best of two worlds [18:36] beatzz: linux md raid level 10 [18:37] i think i like 3 the best. [18:37] lol [18:37] if we were gamers id be surprised. 3 & 10. nobody said "raise ,fold?" [18:37] striping w/ parity. [18:37] how can you loose? [18:38] any format the requires a parity disk has a bottle neck limited to the speed of that disk [18:38] beatzz, power surge [18:38] you want distributed parity [18:38] not single device parity [18:38] like 5? [18:38] lightning strike. quake. [18:38] etc. [18:39] caixabox_ (n=Hrt@201.53.37.234) joined ##slackware. [18:39] yes 5 or 6. Honestly, I've never ever seen RAID2-4 in practice [18:40] beatzz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-standard_RAID_levels#Linux_MD_RAID_10 [18:41] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [18:41] reviewed the chapter of configureing hardware tonight. [18:42] andreas-- (n=andy@unaffiliated/slacky) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:42] kernel modules, and the use of insmod/modprobe [18:42] raid, and x [18:42] im still a bit unclear on the init process [18:42] Camarade_Tux: you know, I have VirtualBox as well :P [18:42] more specificaly the rc scripts [18:43] for the different run levels [18:43] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@198.42.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [18:43] pprkut: I was referring to a specific qemu option actually [18:43] linXea (n=linXea@81.233.227.253) joined ##slackware. [18:43] hi. i am trying to copy an image from a ide disk which has amiga file system. i did 'dd if=/dev/hda of=amiga.img', but it shows an error at the end. 'dd: reading `/dev/hda': Input/output error' i tried 'dd if=amiga.img of=/dev/sdb' to a sd card and booted with that on the amiga. it actually started, but reported bad blocks. how do I transfer the image from the disk without errors? [18:44] pprkut: can't find it again though (I never used it ;) ) [18:44] heh [18:44] josteint_: add a 'bs=512', to set the block size [18:45] isn't bs=512 a default anyway? [18:45] actually yeah, just looked at the man page, it is 512 [18:45] :P [18:46] josteint_: if it has bad blocks the disk is fucked [18:46] josteint_ the error at the end shouldnt matter. ... whats the typical amiga sector block size? also, make sure the image and the SD card are of the same size [18:46] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [18:46] josteint_: there is no chance in hell you will get 100% reliable data off that disk [18:46] josteint_: have a look at dmesg output, maybe the original disk really does have bad sectors. you can use dd's "conv=noerror" option to make dd keep working after it gets a bad sector [18:47] lee555J5 (n=irchon@rrcs-67-78-222-230.se.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:47] Action: jg71 throws in the obligatory ddrescue [18:48] if you only have one (or very few) bad sectors, you might get lucky: the bad sectors might all be in non-essential files, or even in free space [18:48] lee555J5 (n=irchon@rrcs-67-78-222-230.se.biz.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:48] jg71: the ide disk is 80MB. the sd card is 2GB... should that matter? [18:48] the copy will be missing the data that goes in those sectors, but if the bad sectors only occur in e.g. your low-res porn GIF collection from 1986, you might not care [18:49] jg71: but i think i need to know the block size of an amiga disk [18:49] haha [18:49] lee555J5 (n=irchon@67.78.222.230) joined ##slackware. [18:49] lee555J5 (n=irchon@67.78.222.230) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:49] AFAIK, the kernel can't deal with hard drives with other than 512 byte sectors [18:49] not really ... if you dont want to use the rest of the SD card, josteint [18:49] Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 41629 [18:49] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: "Leaving" [18:49] nah. [18:49] (maybe 2.6 can, that's a piece of info that's been rattling around in my head for 10+ years) [18:50] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: "leaving" [18:50] f.e. block sizes of cd-rom differ and dd frenzy on those work just fine, Urchlay [18:51] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [18:51] josteint_, looks like that error is within the 80mb limit of your data you want to copy [18:51] jg71: hm, the reason I remember that piece of info, is that we had gotten hold of some old SCSI disks that came out of an rs6000 or something, they were formatted for an oddball sector size (like 640 bytes/sector, more than 512 anyway), and the only way they'd work was to LLF them [18:52] jg71: ok... so there is a disk error? [18:52] macavity (n=macavity@90.185.90.106) left irc: "leaving" [18:52] conv=noerror [18:52] cwheeler (n=cosmic@c-98-237-241-220.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "bye..." [18:52] macavity (n=macavity@90.185.90.106) joined ##slackware. [18:52] Urchlay, exotic. ive had some of those myself but none of those. if in doubt, panic. [18:52] josteint_, yeah try that conv= [18:52] Urchlay: ok. trying that... [18:53] hmm.. interesting. [18:54] something strange is going on... it seems to be running in a loop [18:54] no... it is reaching for 80MB [18:55] done! 80MB [18:55] cool. gonna transfer this to the sd card and boot it [18:55] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "Leaving" [18:57] this is very exciting... will the sd act similar to the old hd? [18:58] anyone got an old clucker pc they wana sell? [18:58] in awk, how would i print everything after $8 ? [18:58] beatzz: I have 12+. [18:58] thumbs any under 20 bucks? [18:58] beatzz: bf is coming wait till then to get a cheap computer [18:58] lol [18:58] nah.. still reports bad blocks. it DOES read it, and it tries to load workhbench(old amiga OS) [18:58] beatzz: disregard my comment [18:59] but there are bad blocks [18:59] thrice`, what do u think about this bad boy http://www.dell.com/us/en/dfb/servers/pedge_840/pd.aspx?refid=pedge_840&s=dfb&cs=28 [18:59] beatzz: check craigslist in the computer section but be careful some people try to sell junk for high dollar, you can find good deals if you are patient [18:59] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) left irc: "leaving" [18:59] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:00] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) left irc: Client Quit [19:00] the SD card shouldn't have *bad* sectors... but maybe Amiga's OS thinks they're bad because they don't contain something or another (header, checksum, link bytes, I dunno how the amiga's filesystem works) [19:00] beatzz: it would cost too much to ship from here. I'm assuing you live in the USA? [19:00] they're probably full of zeroes [19:00] yea [19:00] Pig_Pen: computer for $20 i dont think so [19:00] beatzz: it would be very expensive from Canada. [19:00] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "need the bandwidth to surf craigslist" [19:00] most likely someone just throwing it away an old computer [19:01] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:01] for free would work [19:01] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) left irc: Client Quit [19:01] I don't mind giving them away. The poor jock will have to pay 90$ for shipping. [19:01] heh, if you cruise around suburban neighborhoods on trash-collection day, you can probably find plenty of old PCs just sitting out on the curb for the taking [19:01] for 20 bucks he wont get anything, expect to spend at least 100 or maybe 200 for something decent enough to use for a year or two [19:01] apartment complexes too [19:01] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:02] Camarade_Tux: :-) [19:02] macavity: ;-) [19:02] macavity: quitting is the only way to stop it :P [19:03] Camarade_Tux: i just ignored you :P [19:03] yeah, you've done the right thing ;-) [19:03] I think it wasn't over yet when I quit [19:04] Patzy (n=somethin@88.174.11.170) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [19:04] josteint_: Look at kernel source. It has some documentation about amiga fs. Documentation/filesystems/affs.txt [19:05] josteint_: will the amiga actually boot from the IDE disk you're trying to copy from? [19:05] beatzz left the room (quit: "need the bandwidth to surf craigslist"). , damn he had to leave irc to go on CL [19:05] how bad is the internet connection in canada [19:06] xsamurai: I'm in Canada [19:06] xsamurai: I have 15MB down, 2MB upstream ~ $45CAD / month [19:06] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [19:07] whats the loonie / dollar ratio ? [19:07] xsamurai: ah, I missed the first half of that :P [19:07] eviljames; kind of took the edge of the joke... [19:07] the way the dollar is falling, its starting to look looney as well [19:07] cmk_zzz: hahahah s/kind of/totally/ and then append "idiot" :P [19:07] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:08] xsamurai: $1.00CAD = ~$0.93USD [19:08] the usa economy is in such bad shape canada has more money than we do now, were not much better off than mexico [19:09] Pig_Pen: Actually we still technically have no money, we just have much less debt.. around $500B vs. America's $10,000B [19:09] Pig_Pen: Si , brush up on your Spanish for when we have to hop over the border illegally for work [19:09] lol si senior [19:09] xsamurai: You won't have to. [19:09] Urchlay: yes. boots all fine [19:09] Climate change is going to make Mexico an unlivable desert, prepare your Spanish for when they invade.. hrm... might be too late for that too... [19:09] cmk_zzz: looking into that now [19:10] phrases like "i'll configure your router for food" [19:10] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:10] eviljames: climate change ? [19:10] CornFed (n=Dont@cpe-174-101-199-63.cinci.res.rr.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:10] everybody moves north, canadians move to the NWT and we move to canade and mexico moves to the USA [19:10] CornFed (n=Dont@cpe-174-101-199-63.cinci.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:11] re: climate change... http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/index.php [19:11] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:11] santa clause will be your next door neighbor eviljames [19:11] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [19:11] mancha: Yeah, I've looked at a number of those. [19:11] all i know is , its getting colder in LA then it used to be [19:11] eviljames: did I ever tell you about the group I spoke to at Great Falls Montana on the way to sturgis. (what 100m across the border?), and they asked me if I dog sledded to the border, and jumped on my bike from there. :P [19:12] fuck this world [19:12] so Al Gore and crappy movies can go south [19:12] chopp: bahahahahah Obviously you told them yes. [19:12] i'm going to the moon or mars [19:12] fhobia (n=fhobia@67.188.69.121) joined ##slackware. [19:12] i heard some hackers broke in to those scientist's computer lab and stole a bunch of data that proves that global warming is a hoax [19:12] eviljames: indeed I did. [19:12] Pig_Pen: it is [19:12] Pig_Pen: you heard about half wrong. [19:12] Pig_Pen: Some people did break into a climate scientists computer and took the e-mails (mancha posted above) [19:12] eviljames: its just another taxing scheme [19:13] Pig_Pen: But it certainly doesn't prove anything one way or the other about climate change. [19:13] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Connection timed out [19:13] the whole global warming idea is crap [19:13] specially when we get taxed for it [19:13] xsamurai: You really think that tens of thousands of scientists world wide teamed up in order to raise your taxes? [19:13] i don't care about the polar bears [19:14] um scientists, politicians , doctors will say whatever money tells them to [19:14] if it means money in their pockets [19:14] Well, it's about time for you guys to turn in your geek cards. [19:14] cmk_zzz: 'modprobe affs' loads the module, but still cfdisk and fdisk reads the disk as 'free space'. cannot mount it with 'mount /dev/hda /media/amiga' [19:14] daily doctors tell you h1n1 will destroy the world [19:14] also, ##slackofftopic [19:14] CornFed (n=Dont@cpe-174-101-199-63.cinci.res.rr.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:14] -sorry, didn't realize there was an ON topic quesion- [19:14] CornFed (n=Dont@cpe-174-101-199-63.cinci.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:15] too late, can't stop now [19:15] Pig_Pen, it proves that some scientists were trying to prevent stuff against global warming from being published [19:15] josteint_: Sorry, can't help you much there. Only new that there were some documentation about it and thought it might be of some help. [19:15] new = knew [19:15] cmk_zzz: neither 'mount -t affs /dev/hda /mount/amiga' [19:16] just ways wrong fs type [19:16] josteint_: what fs is on it? [19:16] the harddisk? not sure... i have workbench 3.0 running on it [19:18] tuxdev_ (n=tgoya@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [19:18] i seen picture of industrial pollution that multi-national corporations do where there is no EPA to regulate them, i will say pollution is a more pressing need to clean up than an imagined global warming [19:18] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:19] i think the idea of warming has been questioned sufficiently that the buzz-phrase has changed to "climate change" [19:19] barby (n=barby@217.171.129.66) joined ##slackware. [19:20] yep [19:20] Nick change: barby -> errordeveloper_ [19:20] Nick change: errordeveloper_ -> _errordeveloper [19:21] xsamurai (n=fahad@69.43.199.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:22] Pig_Pen: Pollution = Global Warming. If it makes you more comfortable to say we need to end pollution than discuss it on "Al Gore's terms" then whatever floats your boat [19:22] But to say that humans are having zero effect on their environment is laughably stupid and shortsighted. [19:22] humans are animals too [19:22] Which is _exactly_ what the CRU scientists are lashing out against in those e-mails. [19:22] i drank from a bowl like a cat [19:23] milk that is [19:23] humans have always had an effect on the environment as they are part of it. this has been true since the first hominid let out a sulphurous fart [19:23] <_errordeveloper> hi [19:23] <_errordeveloper> i'm having some problems with mplayer/smplayer in kde [19:23] <_errordeveloper> on slack64-13.0 [19:24] _errordeveloper: and ? [19:24] macavity (n=macavity@90.185.90.106) left irc: "...and no gay pr0n without me fire|bird" [19:24] ^ :O [19:25] decster! [19:25] tripFantastic: :o [19:25] today it is a sulphurous fart X 6 billion [19:25] tripFantastic: sup [19:25] not much [19:25] same [19:25] you? [19:25] k [19:26] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:26] i am all for an _open_ and honest discussion of the facts and theories surrounding our impending doom. this is why i am quite dissapointed when i find out scientists actively try to hide or quash or otherwise censor conflicting or opposing views [19:26] how's that science? [19:27] <_errordeveloper> deco: ah .. [19:27] errordeveloper: ahhH!!!! [19:27] robinetd (n=robinetd@unaffiliated/robinetd) joined ##slackware. [19:27] mancha: There is no science to the 'conflicting view' - it is entirely a paid advertisement from polluters. [19:27] <_errordeveloper> yeah, i can see the KDM backround when toggling fullscreen in mplayer/smplayer [19:27] <_errordeveloper> and it is really annoying [19:27] Out of curiousity (I couldn't get wireless to work), does anyone have an iwl5300 wireless card working in slackware? [19:28] <_errordeveloper> and slowish basically [19:28] eviljames i dunno but for me, censorship is never justified [19:28] I've googled, but get completely unrelated results. [19:28] robinetd: I have an intel wireless card, but I think mine is a 4000 series. [19:28] robinetd: Have you tried using wicd? It makes the configuration stage much, much easier. [19:28] mancha: Nobody censors them. Nobody. [19:28] eviljames: That's just it: No matter what I do, wpa_supplicant alone or wicd, it fails to connect to the AP. [19:28] if you are so certain of your position then let the quacks speak and bring down their ideas intellectually, no? what's there to fear [19:29] I can't remember (It was a while ago on a default slack13 install.) [19:29] mancha: The quacks have all the money in the world backing them, and get a majority of the press time. [19:29] I can't remember the error exactly* [19:29] cry me a river [19:29] But it was something to do with "disauthenticating due to local reason =3" [19:29] <_errordeveloper> robinetd: i got 5100 working :) [19:29] mancha: Only if you build me a bridge. [19:29] mancha: Don't you recall the controversy when Jim Hensen (head of Goddard space institute @ NASA) sent his report on climate to the white house and it was censored by an Exxon lobbyist with no scientific training? [19:29] http://www.chinahush.com/2009/10/21/amazing-pictures-pollution-in-china/ [19:30] _errordeveloper: How? :o. IIRC, 5100 and 5300 use the same firmware packages. [19:30] mancha: As in, actual scientists getting censored - which is the unfortunate norm. [19:30] enough ranting from me for now. Gotta go home and pick it up later on.. IN ##SLACKOFFTOPIC :P [19:32] finally [19:32] despiron (n=1986saul@187.64.21.199) joined ##slackware. [19:32] jeox (n=jeox@c-24-5-73-175.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[20:13] and if possible have the whole process automated [20:13] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-165-129.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:13] i bet Pat has a big notebook [20:14] he packages the whole distribution, he knows what depends on what, clearly [20:14] mitchx (n=mitchx@chello089077138008.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [20:14] and glib is ambiguous, if you mean glibc (which i bet you do) then say it! :) [20:16] if i had to build a distro i would want a large chalkboard like you see in a school room to put important notes [20:17] Camarade_Tux: I'm sure he has an automated build tool. [20:17] I do. [20:18] mancha: no, not libc, glib2 ;-) [20:18] and knowing the deps doesn't prevent you from forgetting to recompile something [20:18] glib2 is not a big issue [20:18] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [20:19] especially if it's "start compile, wait, start other compile, wait, start..." [20:19] mancha: because they keep backward compatibility, but it could have a big impact [20:19] have you looked at the xorg build scripts as an example? [20:20] hmmm, good idea [20:25] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-23-77.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:25] fhobia (n=fhobia@67.188.69.121) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:26] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [20:32] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:33] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [20:33] In Firefox 3.5, I noticed when you try to save a file in a newly created folder, the folder isn't opened by default. this causes mistakes. In earlier versions, a newly created folder would automatically open. I wonder why firefox made a retro switch. [20:34] jblanton_ (n=jblanton@cpe-174-101-199-63.cinci.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:34] good question.. perhaps a bug was introduced at some time? [20:34] I'd hate to point you to the ugly source, but looking at their commit logs would be how I figured out when/why that changed... [20:35] ls -a | grep *conky* [20:35] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [20:36] haha [20:36] jblanton_ (n=jblanton@cpe-174-101-199-63.cinci.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:36] cryptic0: try asking #firefox those guys might help ya [20:36] hahahahah you didn't have to be that ashamed of typing in the wrong window [20:36] :D [20:38] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:38] hi all, is there a command which tests in real time the presence of a new file into the disk, ....in order to avoid creating a cron job which runs every minute to make checkings ? [20:38] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:38] thanks in advance [20:39] you wish to know when a file tree gets a new entry? [20:39] if [ -e file ]; then [20:39] eviljames, yes ! .. for example when there's a new file into a directory ! [20:40] Does anyone ever watch the National Geographic specials on hulu.com? [20:40] thrice`, yes but it's not in real time , [20:40] oh, sorry, I mis-read your question [20:41] paissad-hp: you are looking for inotify [20:41] paissad-hp: are you well versed in C? [20:42] eviljames, i know inotify, but i did not know that it could do that, let me check ;) [20:42] eviljames, i thought about making a C program, but i thought it was wiser to check if the program exist already :) [20:42] paissad-hp: there's probably a number of utils based on that, FAM and others [20:43] FAM ? [20:43] File Alteration Monitor, a daemon that runs on your system. [20:43] eviljames, ok :) [20:44] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [20:45] hello everyone :) [20:45] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:46] hello gar0t0, how's it going? [20:46] fire|bird: great thank you!! and you ? [20:46] gar0t0: doing excellent, thanks. :) [20:46] init[1]: can you check if you get the same behavior on firefox? [20:46] fire|bird: news? [20:47] cryptic0: I can confirm that behavior in FF, iirc it's been that way since 3.5 if not 3.0 [20:47] gar0t0: nah, not really. [20:48] fire|bird: yes. Also, it bothers me that dialogue box size keeps on changing depending upon what folder you click on. For example, if you click on a folder with a long name, the dialogue box window suddenly gets bigger to accomodate entire folder name. This results in erratic mouse clicks. [20:48] cryptic0: yes ,it doesn't create folder and saves in current dir [20:49] which it opens up '~/' [20:49] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:49] cryptic0: Hmm, I haven't experienced that, but I certainly have the other issue. [20:49] eviljames: still alive? [20:50] eviljames: I need to pick your brain a bit, about hydrogen... [20:50] Urchlay: yeah, he's still around. [20:51] ivenkys (n=ivenkys@unaffiliated/ivenkys) left irc: Connection timed out [20:51] fire|bird: I just got rid of this second issue. the cause was a certain setting in fluxbox where I asked for firefox window to remember it's dimensions. I disabled that, and now it doesn't do that anymore. [20:52] cryptic0: cool, 1 down, 1 to go. :P [20:52] :p [20:52] i'm trying to delete a line from a file using sed, this is the command that I tried, but it just flushes the file "sed '/targetword/d source.txt > source.txt" [20:53] you MUST NOT "sed somefile > somefile" [20:53] DO NOT use the same file [20:53] oh [20:53] just use sed -i [20:53] sed -i somefile # do this instead, it'll work [20:53] "sed -i" can do it if you want (only available in some versions), or use another file [20:53] I need to go!! see you [20:53] sed -i '/targetword/d' src.txt [20:53] ohh, ok [20:53] see ya gar0t0, take care. [20:53] bye gar0t0 [20:53] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-23-77.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:53] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "RAH" [20:54] Urchlay: I'm back alive actually [20:54] sed -i.backup '/whatever/' file.txt # save the original file.txt as file.txt.backup, in case you screw up [20:55] Camarade_Tux: you are 100% correct, always sed 'statement' file > other_file [20:55] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [20:55] eviljames: how the heck do you make an open hi-hat, followed by a closed hi-hat, sound like they're being played on the same cymbal? [20:55] if you make a mistake with sed it will not forgive you. [20:55] Urchlay: If I had the resources I would make my own samples.. the ones that come with it all kinda suck. [20:56] eviljames: so the answer is "you don't"? [20:56] Urchlay: there definitely are better kits available for hydrogen, I think some other distros might even package some.. [20:56] StevenR (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:56] eviljames: I think Fedora has some extras packaged for it, but I'm not 100% sure. [20:57] yeah, been looking around, trying a few different ones. Pretty much all of them have that problem though (open HH and closed HH are separate samples) [20:57] Urchlay: I just think the samples they provide you with are limited, Open hi-hat's sample is long so it will always seem to ring through the immediately following closed.. [20:57] Urchlay: the trick is to take Open hi-hat, squish the sample down in some audio workstation and add it as a new sample i think. [20:57] is it possible to play with the ADSR envelope (over on the bottom right of the window) to fix it? [20:58] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:58] if it is I haven't tried it yet [20:58] fire|bird: that probably explains why I think some other distros package them. [20:59] fire|bird: but that fedora workstation has hit the dust, i replaced fedora with opensolaris :P [20:59] eviljames: probably. I'm not on my Fedora drive atm or I'd double check. [20:59] the default kit (GMkit), the open hat is short enough, but sounds completely different from the closed hat [20:59] well, I could go look on a mirror too. [21:00] eviljames: s/Fedora/OpenSolaris/ <---good choice. ;) [21:00] _S4MUR4I_ (n=S4MUR4I@187.40.104.201) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:01] fire|bird: heh i thought so [21:01] ugh. Last night hydrogen was working fine, I just started it up & tried to load a different drum kit, and it frigging dies on me (process exits, UI disappears, stderr says "[main] Unknown exception X-(" [21:01] maybe the drumkit wasn't where it expected to find it and there's an uncaught exemption? [21:01] it was there last night [21:02] ~/.hydrogen/data/drumkits//* [21:02] lame.. i've been meaning to get on their mailing list anyway.. might as well sign up [21:02] and they're all there now... and none of them will load [21:02] eviljames: hydrogen-drumkits-0.9.3-3.20080907.fc12.noarch.rpm ;) [21:03] eviljames, inotify seems to be adequate, i will make a script using it , thanks :) [21:03] fire|bird: rpm2tgz - [21:03] hmmm. at least one of the kits will load... [21:03] eviljames: great minds think alike? :P [21:05] specifically "ColomboAcousticDrumkit" will load fine... all these came from the hydrogen site (using hydrogen's UI to import them) [21:06] Urchlay: hydrogen's dev faq sec.5 - Find a bug, sec.6 Fix a bug.. these are good instructions [21:07] *sigh* [21:07] I have zero interest in developing audio apps, that's why I'm trying to run someone else's [21:07] lol [21:08] Craigslist computers for sale..."labtops" gotta love it... [21:08] Urchlay: I, on the other hand, have some interest [21:08] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving." [21:09] linXea (n=linXea@81.233.227.253) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:09] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:09] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:11] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:11] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [21:11] the hump fell down on their P [21:12] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:12] zhoun (n=guo@123.117.228.155) left irc: "‚»" [21:12] zhoun (n=guo@123.117.228.155) joined ##slackware. [21:12] great. Something must be hideously wrong, hydrogen hard-locked my box during playback [21:13] what's hydrogen? [21:13] software drum machine [21:14] ah [21:14] arcaos (n=arcaos@200.12.205.154) joined ##slackware. [21:14] I wish fruity loops ran on linux [21:15] all I've ever seen done with fruity loops was cheezy techno stuff. Can it do realistic-sounding drums? [21:15] (not that hydrogen's really doing that right now for me either...) [21:16] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "And Punt" [21:16] isnt lmms kinda like fruty loops ? [21:17] dunno, never heard of it... [21:17] its all loops like fruity loops [21:17] Urchlay: these are not errors I have had happen to me? [21:17] Linux Multimedia Studio, on SBo [21:17] Urchlay: are you getting crazy xruns in jack? [21:18] not a whole lot of them [21:18] Urchlay, it can do whatever you give it to do. I got some very nice sounding drums out of it [21:19] eviljames: wait, trying it now. Just trying to play back a simple pattern of closed/open hats [21:19] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [21:20] so far so good [21:20] How does one install an openbox theme? I have a tarball of one but i'll be damned if i know what to do with it [21:20] ~/.themes should be good [21:20] hiptobecubic: probably somehwere in ~/.openbox [21:20] put it in /usr/share/themes for systemwide [21:20] thanks [21:20] fire|bird, nah, openbox goes to ~/.config/openbox [21:20] thrice`: Ah, ok. Thanks. :) [21:20] but that's just configs; it can load ~/.themes [21:21] eviljames: I dunno, I do get xruns in some circumstances, but it's hard to know what circumstances those are (I can't hear them() [21:22] ugh hideous [21:22] if you want pretty use kde4's absolute defaults :P [21:23] haha [21:23] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [21:23] eviljames: have to agree there, their defaults are quite nice, without changing a thing. [21:24] hm. With the "colombo" kit, just increasing the velocity of one closed-hat hit makes it sound like an open hat. Weird. [21:24] Is it that hard to make a grey-tone theme that isn't hideous or difficult to see? These themes people make are always so outrageous. I might as well get some flame decals to put on my monitor [21:25] I have the beginning of a winter beard going and it's at the point of maximum itch. [21:26] those are fleas [21:26] antiwire: yeah without that winter beard, you must damn near freeze to death in cali. ;) [21:26] lol [21:26] :D [21:27] Action: chopp looks out at the #$%*& snow. [21:28] haw haw.. calgary? [21:28] I think it's going to snow here soon [21:28] I'm in one of the rare parts of Canada that doesn't really snow [21:28] eviljames: edmonton, but I think calgary got hit too. [21:28] yeah we have really brutal falls and winters http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/state_beaches_10172009.jpg [21:28] so rough here [21:28] nice, all you braggarts were spouting off about the sun earlier today [21:29] it has been gray in van for days.. little sunshine last wednesday, but rain ever since [21:29] I mean look, I have to wear a wetsuit, wtf [21:29] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@173.50.102.100) joined ##slackware. [21:29] lol [21:30] GOD! these damn themes. They all have names like "Minimal Dark Obsidian Darkness (LIGHTWEIGHT!) *wank wank wank*" [21:30] we're actually slated for a warm/hot thanksgiving [21:30] fire and wind warnings [21:30] Action: hiptobecubic misses Miami winters [21:30] oh damn, it's thankgiving tomorrow in the states? [21:30] _S4MUR4I_ (n=S4MUR4I@187.40.2.107) joined ##slackware. [21:30] eviljames: Thursday [21:30] eviljames, thursday [21:30] StevenR (n=foo@212.44.56.204) joined ##slackware. [21:30] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:31] even better, lots of places will be closed thursday friday, meaning i will have very few interruptions at work [21:31] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [21:32] KB1JWQ (i=KB1JWQ@freenode/staff/kb1jwq) left irc: "leaving" [21:32] KB1JWQ (i=KB1JWQ@freenode/staff/kb1jwq) joined ##slackware. [21:35] MLanden (n=MLanden@141.152.144.238) joined ##slackware. [21:35] heya,folks [21:35] heya MLanden, how are you? [21:35] hey MLanden [21:36] fine thanks fire|bird...yourself? [21:36] heya,deco [21:36] MLanden: excellent, thanks. [21:36] yo MLanden [21:36] and fire|bird [21:36] heya,mfillpot [21:37] hey mfillpot, how are you? [21:37] I am good, I just finished posting a blog entry for incompetent people to read [21:38] jblanton (n=jblanton@cpe-174-101-199-63.cinci.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:38] been messin' with mocp(moc-2.5.0-alpha4)...they finally put play queue on it and it works great [21:40] MLanden: has it been submitted as a slackbuild? [21:41] could slackpkg install sources? [21:41] mfillpot: think the slackbuild's got the mocp 2.4.3(stable) release [21:41] MLanden: I see it now, I am downloading the one from SBo [21:42] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:42] we are not amused [21:43] oh fsck the borg have arrived [21:43] Action: eviljames runs [21:43] eviljames: you run a -rt patched kernel on your audio box? [21:43] can anyone answer jescis question? [21:44] Urchlay: I just installed all of the drumkits hydrogen has to d/l and install from it's ui, no issues, they all work. [21:44] Urchlay: I think atm it is slackware-13.0 so that I can test those slackbuilds against it [21:44] Action: MLanden checks the logs...B() [21:44] jescis: you mean point it at a source tarball and slackpkg builds and installs? [21:44] fire|bird: they all worked for me last night, too [21:44] KB1JWQ (i=KB1JWQ@freenode/staff/kb1jwq) left irc: Client Quit [21:44] fire|bird: it was only just now when I ran hydrogen again that it started crashing when I tried to load kits [21:44] or do I just download to /usr/src/? [21:45] Urchlay: Hmm, weird. [21:45] jescis: are you trying to compile an app from source? [21:45] currently build a kernel without -rt patch, but with CONFIG_PREEMPT=y [21:45] s/build/\1ing/ [21:45] eduardmatrix (n=eduardma@190.25.5.58) joined ##slackware. [21:45] fire|bird, I need the source to strftime, I want to add nanoseconds to it(if I can :\) [21:46] jescis: could you be more specific of what you're trying to do? [21:46] arcaos (n=arcaos@200.12.205.154) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:46] HI.. someone know how can i shared file between my Slakware 12.2 and a Mac OS X Leopard? [21:46] samba [21:47] jescis: "struct tm" doesn't have a nanoseconds field [21:47] http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=samba [21:47] Urchlay, I'd like to add it [21:47] jescis: I am fairly sure slackpkg can't do that. [21:48] fire|bird, ok thanks [21:48] jescis: so you'd have to modify & recompile glibc, and recompile any programs that use "struct tm" (because your modified glibc would be ABI-incompatible with the old one) [21:48] doesn't hurt to ask ;-) [21:49] jescis: nope, sure doesn't. :) [21:49] o OK.. somemore.. im try install a HP 3500 but isnt work hplips and nothings. Some can help me? [21:49] Urchlay, so how does date get nanoseconds and the rest don't? [21:49] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) left irc: [21:49] I have no idea... but the nanoseconds value is almost certainly useless anyway (too much scheduling jitter) [21:50] ah [21:50] jescis: grab the sources to coreutils and have a look (that's where the date command comes from) [21:51] I wanted nanoseconds for irssi. But I guess that's not probable :\ [21:51] gtfo [21:51] ;) [21:51] I think that's being a little too precise about who said what, when. [21:51] you'd look at the coreutils source, see how it's implemented there, and modify the irssi sources to do the same thing [21:52] eduardmatrix: are you a member of the lp group? [21:52] eduardmatrix (n=eduardma@190.25.5.58) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:52] but for irssi, it'd be even more useless I'd think (network latency + scheduling latency) [21:55] Urchlay, yeah, that would make it more problematic then anything. Unless something can be done about the latancy problems >.> [21:55] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@173.50.102.100) left irc: "I'm done for now" [21:55] something like what? [21:55] maybe jescis needs to link up with the Bynars..http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Bynar [21:55] run irssi with a rt-patched kernel as a realtime process? replace your ethernet hardware with something based on quantum entanglement? [21:55] (actually if you succeed in doing the latter, I'm interested!) [21:57] seriously though, what would you use the nanoseconds for, assuming they could be made accurate? [21:57] could use parellel instead of serial type connections. Unless I'm wrong and ethernet is parellel then I'm clueless as of now. :\ [21:58] Billtoo_ (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016450.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:59] Urchlay, what eviljames said. Being more precise of who said what, when [22:00] eh, well, packets have to travel across the internet to get from the IRC server to you. You have no control over the hardware & software all those routers & such are using... [22:00] all you'd be able to log would be the exact time your IRC client got the text from the top layer of the TCP/IP stack, which is only loosely related to when the other guy actually pressed Enter at the end of his sentence [22:02] plus, even if you actually managed to measure to any precision, your logs would not match those generated elsewhere in the world. [22:02] (and even that wouldn't have nanosecond precision, slackware's kernels are built with HZ=1000, meaning nothing gets scheduled with better than a millisecond's precision) [22:02] frullet (n=hooch@124.170.179.130) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [22:04] mission: impossible [22:05] eviljames: OK, I get crap results with jack and jack apps using a stock slack kernel, and I get decent results until it crashes, using rt-patched kernel... now about to try a non-patched kernel with CONFIG_PREEMPT=y. If it still crashes, suspect what? Shitty audio hardware and/or driver for same? [22:06] Urchlay, what exactley does CONFIG_PREEMPT=y do ? [22:06] _S4MUR4I_ (n=S4MUR4I@187.40.2.107) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:06] (I mean, I'm using the onboard audio on a cheapo via motherboard) [22:06] _S4MUR4I_ (n=S4MUR4I@187.40.2.107) joined ##slackware. [22:06] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:07] Urchlay: that's exactly where I would point the blame [22:07] Scuzz: enable preemption of kernel code. Lets high-priority kernel threads preempt lower-priority ones... overall effect is supposed to be lower latency (possibly with a penalty in overall throughput) [22:08] thank you sir [22:11] eviljames: well, would a PCI "SB Live Value" card be expected to do any better? I think I have one of those around here somewhere, if I can but find it [22:12] Kenjiro (n=kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) joined ##slackware. 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[22:19] Nick change: winter -> Guest15318 [22:19] I just decompressed the phonon-4.3.1 package (32bit) and that file is really missing [22:19] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Reconnecting" [22:20] just noticed the soundblaster comments. a vrilliant widows drvier was written for win [22:21] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host74.200-117-234.telecom.net.ar) returned to ##slackware. [22:21] *brilliant* Every signal is processed at 32-bit, 192dB, 48kHz [22:21] Eugene Gavrilov spearheads an open driver for Emu10k1 and 10k2 based cards [22:22] Scuzz: I wish I knew where that card was... [22:23] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) got lost in the net-split. [22:23] Snewp (i=slacker@unaffiliated/snewp) got lost in the net-split. [22:23] MoZes (n=mozes@bourbon.biscuit.org.uk) got lost in the net-split. [22:23] Matt (n=matt@spoon.pkl.net) got lost in the net-split. [22:23] rk4n3 (n=rk4n3@71.39.203.106) got lost in the net-split. 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[22:23] wtf, compiling kernel (stock slackware -huge config with CONFIG_PREEMPT=y) and get: make[3]: *** [drivers/infiniband/hw/mthca/mthca_qp.o] Error 1 [22:24] "make V=1" doesn't yield any more information... grr [22:24] (it turns out to be "disk full" though. Grrdammit) [22:25] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [22:25] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Client Quit [22:25] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [22:26] well, good night folks [22:26] KB1JWQ (i=KB1JWQ@freenode/staff/kb1jwq) joined ##slackware. [22:26] Nick change: kitche -> kitche3 [22:26] Kenjiro (n=kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) left irc: "gone" [22:27] Nick change: kitche3 -> kitche [22:27] wb,fire|bird [22:28] thank you MLanden [22:28] Nick change: kitche -> kitchemobile [22:28] hiya fire|bird, MLanden [22:28] Nick change: kitchemobile -> kitche [22:28] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [22:28] heya,hitest [22:28] :) [22:28] how are you, man? [22:29] MLanden: I wasn't part of the netsplit I don't think, yet something happened, so then I just used /reconnect, then it double-joined all the channels I'm in, so then I just quit irssi and started it again. :P [22:29] heya hitest, how are you? [22:29] just relaxin' thanks and yourself hitest? [22:29] fire|bird: maybe trapped in the void...:P [22:29] MLanden: evidently. :P [22:30] fire|bird: I am well, ty:) how are you? I am doing well, MLanden....just surfing, relaxing [22:30] Action: Urchlay curses [22:30] ? [22:30] hitest: awesome [22:31] good to hear, MLanden [22:31] hitest: doing great, thanks. :) [22:31] Urchlay: hey now, no need for that language. :P [22:32] hitest: just got opensolaris installed on the laptop. :D [22:32] sweet [22:32] hitest: now to get slackware back installed. :) I had to repartition things. [22:32] yuck! [22:32] thrice`: yuck to what? repartition or osol? [22:33] fire|bird: have fun with the re-install [22:33] osol :) [22:33] hitest: thanks. :) [22:33] thrice`: haha, I love osol. :) [22:33] htrice: never tried osol [22:33] thrice [22:33] gah [22:33] htrice? sounds like a command. [22:33] I haven't, no :) solaris does the opposite of excite me [22:33] strace's cousin perhaps? [22:34] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:34] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:35] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:40] lol...stock up for April 1st... http://www.raiden.net/news/finally_switched_to_ubuntu_totally__then_get_rid_of_those_windows_stickers_and_use_these/ [22:40] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [22:42] lol, when slackware stickers? for key and lappie [22:42] that kind of stickers, not big ones as offered on slack shop [22:42] http://store.slackware.com/cgi-bin/store/slackplate?id=EGFRz78t&mv_pc=90 [22:43] and for key? [22:43] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) left irc: "leaving" [22:43] :P [22:44] gone to play starcraft to a friend's house [22:44] "starcraft", sure [22:44] are you thinking what i'm thinking? [22:44] yea, he's gonna do the same thing i do to your mom.. but with a guy [22:45] take her out for a seafood dinner? [22:45] GROSS [22:45] nop [22:46] CcSsNET (n=user@24.147.193.93) joined ##slackware. [22:47] :( [22:47] karuna (n=karuna@202.154.40.187) joined ##slackware. [22:49] hahah [22:49] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-56-142.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [22:51] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [22:53] It is funny how the 'Windows-key' has become so ubiquitous. Calling it 'meta4' is weak. We all know what it is. [22:54] The openbox config doesn't even call it meta4. it's just 'W' :D\ [22:55] Look at this nasty thing. http://cgi.ebay.com/Ultimate-NVIDIA-3D-Vision-Gaming-PC-Charity-Auction_W0QQitemZ250532613398QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDesktop_PCs?hash=item3a54e84d16 [22:55] wow [22:55] it's 2009, george bush just left us with a nasty recession [22:55] who's gonna buy that ? [22:56] maybe if it was during clintons as he was getting out of office, when everyone had money [22:56] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [22:56] it'd be a different story [22:56] 24 people are stuck after that split [22:56] I was just over there [22:56] they are lost souls. [22:57] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.230.123) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:58] teckan (n=teckan@p5499E422.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:59] wow, thats been awhile. :P [23:01] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:02] fbsd 8.0 baby, comes out 11/25, it's already on mirrors [23:02] comes w/ zfs & DTrace [23:02] good times ahead for fbsd [23:02] i'm seeding it at 120mbit/s [23:02] i'm downloading at 2200k/s [23:03] hiptobecubic, got openbox setup? [23:03] zfs & dtrace, yet it can't do things like play flash [23:04] thrice`, yeah. Although not to it's potential i guess. And I need to do a few more keybindings to get things back how i had them in xfce [23:04] hiptobecubic, nice :) I use it exclusively on my gentoo install [23:04] thrice`: I thought the linux flash player worked for some reason... [23:04] thrice`, also, how to set the desktop? is display -size -window root the only way? [23:04] hiptobecubic, for wallpaper, or? [23:05] eviljames: it does, wrapper thingy lets it use linux flash [23:05] thrice`, si [23:05] eviljames, I think it does, but you need the whole linux emul. layer [23:05] hiptobecubic, I use "feh" to set wallpaper [23:05] deco: hahahah first thing anyone investigates about an OS "can it play utubuez n stuff?!@?" [23:05] err utube w/e [23:06] eviljames: yeah lol [23:06] why the hell would I use it if it can't play flash? [23:06] thrice`: it's not freebsd's fault that adobe doesn't wanna port flash [23:07] I don't care whose fault it is :) the end result is the same. [23:07] good work denmark, send me your bitz i want em all!! [23:07] thrice`: thrice` but you can still get flash working ... [23:07] :P [23:08] deco, seriously. If i make a beautiful, efficient car, but it only uses free and open source gasoline that you have make yourself, no one will use it. fact. [23:08] well maybe you will. But no one else. [23:09] lol [23:09] mot quite "no one", I know at least 3 or 4 people who would love a car like that [23:09] (the ones who keep ranting to me about moving out to the country and growing crops to convert into biodiesel) [23:09] hiptobecubic: freebsd got attacked by rms for including non free software in ports ... [23:09] do those people have long hair and smell funny? :) [23:09] hiptobecubic: it's not pure [23:10] deco, i'm not saying anything about the quality of *bsd on it's own. I'm saying that if it can't do what people want, no one cares that it can do other things. [23:10] People want youtube and bejeweled. [23:10] thrice`: surprisingly, the biggest biodiesel ranter I know looks totally conservative (short hair, clean shaved) and doesn't drink, smoke, or do drugs (won't even take aspirin if he gets a headache) [23:10] hiptobecubic: not all [23:10] not a hippie at all [23:10] gf made banana bread. -excellent- [23:11] eviljames: awesome [23:11] Action: chopp heads for van [23:11] I don't know anyone that would want a computer that can't do flash. [23:11] Not one person. [23:11] hiptobecubic, I use a programmed called tint2 for a dock, too, on openbox - pretty neat app. http://omploader.org/vMnVlNw [23:11] Action: eviljames raises his hand [23:11] hiptobecubic: _I_ [23:11] hiptobecubic: you know the whole world ? [23:11] eviljames, i don't know you. You're just a bot. [23:12] they're on to me [23:12] deco, I didn't say that at all. [23:12] hiptobecubic: honestly I find flash to be mostly used for annoying crap that I block with adblockplus or whatever [23:12] eviljames: eating all the banana bread will make you human. go, go, go!!! [23:12] I said that of all the people i've ever met, I can't name one that doesn't want to be able to use flash. [23:12] youtube is entertaining but I used computers for 20+ years before it was invented and never missed it... [23:13] hey i m watchin southpark on demand right now. 100% necessary for me. [23:13] hiptobecubic: how many do you know that use computers to do work, and would trade being able to use flash for being able to work better? [23:13] I use noflash by default, but only because i can activate flash when i actually want it. [23:13] hiptobecubic: and it's not like you can't use flash , just not natively [23:14] can always mplayer it [23:14] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-165-129.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:14] eviljames, deco sure you can say that the computer is a tool and if it can do X then that's all it needs. But that's not relevant in a discussion about 'people using their computers'. Sure the auto-mechanic wants a special drill that only does engine bolts. No one else does. [23:14] hiptobecubic: there's also the whole demographic of people who run windows 24/7 on the desktop and only user freebsd/linux/whatever for a headless server they only ever interact with by ssh'ing to it [23:14] stuff like flash is essential for a desktop [23:15] thrice`, absolutely. [23:15] (not that I really like dealing with people like that, most of 'em are pretty clueless about their "server" OS) [23:15] hiptobecubic: you can still use flash ... [23:15] Urchlay, you mean "most of the world" [23:15] sure guys, but like Urchlay says desktop isn't the only sphere. [23:15] I'm mostly declaring why I won't (again) use f-bsd on my laptop [23:15] hiptobecubic: if you say so. I thought most of us in here were running Slack desktops though [23:15] and I would hazard that there are as many servers in a single googleplex as there are in some third and second world countries [23:16] (there's certainly enough KDE-related discussion to make me think that) [23:16] deco, i'm sure you can but that's not the point. I'm not going to buy the auto-mechanics special drill just because it's possible to make a crazy contraption that lets it do regular bolts too. [23:16] Urchlay, well this is certainly most of the world [23:16] Urchlay: hiptobecubic would be right about 'most of the world'... Linux still has only ~7% 'desktop share' or whatever.. [23:16] eviljames, is it that high? [23:16] hiptobecubic: way higher if you count netbooks, cell phones and other non-traditional installations. [23:17] hiptobecubic: lower if you consider only standalone desktops [23:17] eviljames, which we shouldn't because those people don't typically know the difference and don't care anyway. [23:17] *shrug*, I don't really care what "most of the world" does anyway [23:17] if we discount the people who know the difference, Linux is probably matched head-to-head even with Windows [23:17] If i say 'mom, your new computer has linux!' she'll say "what's that? and why is youtube so slow?" [23:18] err, other way around, if we only count the people who know the difference. [23:18] "duh mom, you need to add the linux compatability layer and emulate flash" [23:18] install ubuntu then [23:18] actually in this house, there are 2 machines commonly used to watch youtube, and the slow one is the one running windows [23:19] it works outta th ebux [23:19] the box* [23:19] eviljames, i still doubt that but even so, that's a pretty huge liberty you're taking. You're talking about only counting a very small portion of people who know what a computer is and use one daily. [23:19] thrice`, lol [23:20] hiptobecubic: indeed, that's why nobody measures this.. is because it doesn't matter for beans [23:20] thrice: I got tired of linux emulation in fbsd and flash segfaulting [23:20] Urchlay, well here's what I know. On a fresh slackware install running tabwm full screen youtube is jittery. On VISTA after almost a year, it wasn't. [23:20] hitest: which version of freebsd? [23:20] 7.2 [23:21] I could watch flash videos with sound just fine, but, stuff still segfaults [23:21] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [23:21] eviljames, i feel like we're getting off topic... well off our off-topic anyway. The original point was that an OS that can't do flash is like a car can't drive on the highway to most people. [23:21] hitest: same when I was messing with netbsd [23:21] darylc (n=dc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) joined ##slackware. [23:22] hiptobecubic: to be pedantic, for some definition of 'most people' yes. [23:22] bbl [23:22] hiptobecubic: but when you start narrowing down 'most' flash can become irrelevant quickly. [23:22] Sure it does city driving great, but they'll never buy it because you'd need to buy a whole new car just to go on the highway. (Or install a highway compatibility drive train or whatever) [23:23] eviljames, i'd say you have to go pretty narrow. You have to go down to people who don't use graphical internet access for entertainment. [23:23] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host74.200-117-234.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:24] Which, last i checked, was literally everyone i've ever met, including grandparents and prarie dogs. [23:25] Refused telnet@proxyscan.freenode.net (invalid handle: CONNECT 2) [23:31] nmap is starting to get even cooler [23:31] darylc (n=dc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [23:31] hiptobecubic: are you sure they were prairie dogs?...O_o [23:32] MLanden, yes actually. I was started to see them. I guess they are Texas natives. [23:32] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [23:33] lol,hiptobecubic...guess hulu's got somethin' for everybody..:P [23:33] thrice`, is there a command to get openbox to reload its config? I am tired of going to an empty desktop and right clicking and going to system and miss-clicking, closing whatever i just opened. right clicking again... going to system and choosing reload [23:34] MLanden, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHjFxJVeCQs [23:35] hiptobecubic: lol....youtube as well [23:36] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [23:37] hiptobecubic: does openbox --reconfigure help? [23:38] blah [23:38] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: ":wq!" [23:39] MLanden, it's possible [23:39] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [23:40] MLanden, yes. marvelous. thanks [23:40] hiptobecubic: np [23:44] karuna (n=karuna@202.154.40.187) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:44] night all [23:44] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:44] night hit [23:45] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [23:45] ZMR_ (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:45] sahk0 (n=grbzks@ppp-94-68-169-161.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [23:46] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-155-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:47] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:48] here we go, one more attempt [23:49] Urchlay: good luck. :P [23:49] fuck [23:49] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.20.171) joined ##slackware. [23:49] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Quitting" [23:50] same thing as before except, since it doesn't have the realtime patch, it doesn't *quite* manage to make the whole system unresponsive [23:50] (eventually I can get focus to an xterm and type "killall -9 hydrogen", 10 sec later it'll actually die) [23:51] while it's running I get *tons* of these: **** alsa_pcm: xrun of at least 48.816 msecs [23:51] (the number hovers around 45-50 msec) [23:52] eventually: 23:49:36.860 JACK has crashed. [23:52] ZMR_ (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [23:52] so why in Satan's unholy name did it work *great* for 4 or 5 hours last night? [23:54] Urchlay, the same reason torcs built without me changing anything, i'd imagine. [23:54] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: "Leaving" [23:55] anybody have a problem where connecting to another bluetooth device succeeds but then immediately disconnects ? [23:55] I honestly am about ready to trash every piece of electronics I own that's more advanced than what could be built in 1983 [23:55] kleanchap (n=kleancha@93.195.15.146) joined ##slackware. [23:56] Are there any PDF file editors on Linux? I need to delete/shade some of the information in a PDF file. [23:57] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [23:57] Urchlay: Is the buffer with hydrogen crappin' out? [23:59] MLanden: yeah, and it's driving the CPU load through the roof (wiggle the mouse and it takes 3-5 seconds to respond) [23:59] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: "Leaving" [23:59] jeo (n=skljdf@c-24-5-73-175.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:59] this is using set_rlimits to run jack + hydrogen with elevated priority [00:00] --- Wed Nov 25 2009