[00:00] hes likely to abandon slackware now :/ [00:00] Neo_The_User: ... and that looks like it is going to be around Slackware128 18.0 [00:00] he came in here for a short break and a beer. I bet 13 will never come out now... [00:00] im sure it wasnt me [00:00] people live irc all the time [00:00] GOD. [00:00] it WAS you [00:00] *leave [00:00] That sort of shit is why project devs don't often hang out on their IRC channels though - too much worthless crap. [00:00] YOU STUPID ASSHOLE [00:00] I LOVE CAPSLOCK [00:00] lol [00:00] lol [00:01] :D [00:01] rworkman: some devs love me :D [00:01] straterra: Is that were you go the bra from? ;) [00:01] s/were/where [00:01] lol [00:01] No..that was my girls [00:01] at least he wont forget me [00:01] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@kami.via.ecp.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:02] no..he wont [00:02] rworkman: what do devs prefer to discuss? [00:03] pi31415: source code i assume [00:03] I'd imagine not theoretical questions involving guns, heads and release dates [00:03] Neo_The_User: honnestly, i think he is doing what he can to forget you... [00:03] straterra: true, that sounds a bit creepy [00:03] straterra: lol [00:04] does he know i was just kidding though? [00:04] ... [00:04] You really werent [00:04] just treat him like any other regular [00:04] pi31415: well, OT banter is fine - basically what macavity said. [00:04] just ignore him [00:04] thats like..a crazy broad talking about tying you up and cutting you if you try to leave her..then tacking on 'just kidding' [00:04] it doesn't work [00:04] oh lord [00:04] you guys are nuts [00:04] im out [00:05] Bye [00:05] Neo_The_User (n=root@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:05] So uh..you're welcome :) [00:05] man.. that HAS to hurt.. noobfarm anyone? [00:05] root .lol [00:05] if you post it..ill approve it [00:05] on it! [00:06] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:10] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [00:13] Seriously though. A slackware package for some of the more obvious cross-compile toolchains in /opt or something would be BRILLIANT [00:15] to and from x86, x86_64, PowerPC... [00:16] Ugh, I think claws-mail's fancy plugin should be renamed to crashy. :/ [00:16] straterra: i figure he should know who back stabbed him when he reads it on noobfarm ;-) [00:17] phoenix^: that's a feature. [00:17] straterra: if you dont agree you can just trim the last couple of lines [00:17] its fine [00:17] :-) [00:17] agentc0re: lol, claws has always been stable, but I use fancy and it crashes, it's suppose to load html using webkit, but instead it crashes. :P What client do you use? [00:18] agentc0re: Does your client have a crashy feature? :P [00:18] phoenix^: i'm pretty simple.. just use Thunderbird. Right now i'm not even using it. Just use gmail's interface. [00:18] phoenix^: M$ has a patent on that, so every FLOSS project must remove it or get sued [00:18] agentc0re: TBird 3 is looking nice, tabbed interface. :) [00:18] phoenix^: that's only cuz my desktop broke and i've been using my netbook the last few weeks. [00:19] macavity: hahaha [00:19] all we can say is "oh, trust us.. we *are* working on it!" :P [00:19] fiyawerx (i=HydraIRC@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:19] darkwurm (n=dw@75-93-1-171.eug.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:20] darkwurm (n=dw@75-93-1-171.eug.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [00:20] agentc0re: I tried fancy because, well, dillo render in claws sucks, gtkhtml2viewer doesn't do so well either. :P [00:20] s/render/rendering/ [00:21] macavity: any idea in kmail how to bind a receiving account with a sending account? [00:22] under identities [00:23] phoenix^: you can do that in tbird. :P [00:23] macavity: accepted/edited [00:23] agentc0re: yeah, I know. :) [00:24] agentc0re: and, TBird is nice if you *have* to use Windows and transfer stuff over. :P [00:24] phoenix^, if you mean set it to use the correct folders per account for sending and receiving [00:24] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@71-213-50-96.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving." [00:24] jonsmith1982: Um yeah, sort of, I had tried in there, I must have missed something. [00:24] brb [00:25] roger [00:25] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [00:27] TBird is nice because it uses the same binary format on Linux, Mac, and Windows [00:27] uhm, give me an app that doesnt? [00:28] macavity: you know of another that does? [00:28] Action: Urchlay looks around, bleary-eyed [00:28] Firefox :P [00:28] open office [00:28] anything [00:28] firefox and open office aren't MUA's [00:28] you know, no matter what distro you use, this is still the best channel [00:28] kmail? [00:28] outlook [00:29] I am talking about the binary format of the mail store [00:29] outlook does not support Linux or the Mac [00:29] There's office for OSX [00:29] it does not include outlook [00:29] theres..uh..wine! [00:29] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-67-120.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:30] m (n=m@c-67-182-208-26.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:30] is there a limit to how big a physical /boot partition can be? [00:30] nop [00:30] i mean, because its /boot? [00:30] nop [00:30] cool [00:30] ya got a big footprint? [00:30] it aint dos [00:31] fiyawerx: old (really old, at this point) BIOSes needed /boot to reside entirely within the first 1024 cylinders of the drive [00:31] not yet, but just got a new HD, and im going to let windows have the new one and linux have the old one [00:31] and was thinking of doing a lvm setup, but wanted enough /boot that i can throw multiple distros / kernels on there [00:31] Urchlay: back in the 486 days [00:31] fiyawerx: actually, I believe even those old BIOSes don't have that restriction, if you're using a version of LILO from within the past 5 years [00:32] any other major caveats i should be aware of with having 2 drives set up like that other than careful grub configurations? (booting off of two drives that is) [00:32] uhm [00:32] pi31415: yeah, really old, though I've seen some early pentium and pentium mmx motherboards that had the crappy BIOSes [00:32] if you use LVM on multiple linux distros..name them differently in each [00:32] do you physically choose which drive to boot off of, or does your boot loader get loaded onto one and point to the other [00:33] LVM on one distro WILL pick up the others..and it will flip out if it gets them mixed up [00:33] straterra, yeah, with the /boot i plan on having /boot/distro/ [00:33] fiyawerx: maybe a better question would be, what use is a giant /boot partition? Pretty much nothing gets stored there except the kernel(s) and config file(s) [00:33] i mean yor lvm config [00:33] nothing about boot [00:33] your^ [00:33] straterra,oh, yeah, like myvg-slack, etc.. [00:33] ? [00:33] right [00:33] Action: fiyawerx nods [00:33] Do that [00:33] xl091 (i=xl091@88-107-80-243.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [00:33] yeah, i had it set up like that once, it was fun [00:34] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [00:34] i had one myvg-home, which i did the same as /boot with [00:34] and then mounted like /myvg-home/slack to /mnt/home in slack with bind [00:34] er /home [00:34] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-67-120.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:34] some distros are a pita to get set up initially with a setup like that but it was a good learning experience [00:35] how about the boot loader question? does grub/lilo get installed onto the windows drive, and point to the second drive with linux on it? or do you actually choose a different physical boot drive when you reboot if you want to boot on each drive [00:35] lilo usually gets installed in the MBR [00:36] ok cool [00:36] you can do what you said, in fact use windos bootloader to boot a linux partition but thats just wrong [00:36] ah, i was thinking would just hit like f12 like when you want to boot from cd and choose the second drive [00:37] that way can just leave windows and linux completely separate [00:37] that is possible too [00:37] yarvin (n=yarvin@105-200-58-66.gci.net) joined ##slackware. [00:37] Action: fiyawerx nods [00:37] if lilo (or grub) stits on the mbr a menu pops up no need to hit a function key...both bootloaders are highly customizable [00:37] but having lilo in the MBR on the first disk that the BIOS tries to boot is the usual way [00:37] observe that windows has its own boot loader in the superblock of the C: partition [00:38] lilo just chainloads the windows boot loader [00:38] Action: fiyawerx nods [00:38] so technically you dont "touch" windows by installing lilo [00:39] jonsmith1982: Ok, back. Was there a specific setting in identities you were referring to or what? how? :P [00:39] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "peace" [00:39] CmdLnKid (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: "Command not found." [00:40] phoenix^, set u your identities then under the advanced tab ick to folders you want use. [00:40] should stop skinning up on this key board, me "P" key aint working properly :) [00:41] m_ (n=m@c-67-182-208-26.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:42] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:42] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:43] jonsmith1982: Awesome, thank you. :) [00:43] I completely missed that. :P [00:44] phoenix^: for claws maybe try setting something in custom actions like firefox --remote %f ? [00:45] actually !firefox --remote %f,be a right-click option [00:45] Rat409: yeah, maybe, I haven't used claws exclusively because it just doesn't render html well, so I've been also using Kontact/Kmail and TBird 3 (I love the tabbed interfaces they both have) :) [00:45] yuh [00:46] It'd be cool if kontact/kmail could open e-mails in a new tab like TBird 3 can [00:46] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:46] yuh maybe theres custom actions,haven't used kmail in years [00:46] phillipsm (n=matt@173-23-58-33.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Leaving." [00:47] Rat409: yeah, could be. [00:47] Rat409: so how's it going? :P [00:47] blah. IRC is useless with a connection that drops as much as this [00:47] Urchlay: your connect sucks. :P [00:47] good thanks whoops brb [00:47] phoenix^: it's the shitty little netgear wireless router. I rent a room, the thing was here when I got here, I didn't pick it out, and I can't replace it :( [00:47] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [00:48] as much as I hate comcast, I can't blame them for this [00:48] Urchlay: It serves the whole building? [00:48] well, the building is a residence with 3 PCs using wireless and one wired [00:49] it's not like it's serving a whole dorm full of porn-leeching kids or anything [00:49] they won't accept a donation of say a linksys (or better)? [00:49] Urchlay: If you furnished a good router, would they let you replace it? :P [00:49] phoenix^: they would. Right now my finances are nonexistent though :( [00:49] I get my wifi router tomorrow, then I can have the lappy online too. :) [00:49] Urchlay: I hear ya there. :P [00:49] tije (n=tije@189.175.110.14) left irc: "leaving" [00:50] the network emergency call was for a toasted fios switch [00:50] I got paid $100/hr today, unfortunately I only got to work for 30 minutes :( [00:50] had to redo everything for them after the ISP replaced the fiber switch [00:50] Urchlay: that sucks, too bad it wasn't like 5 hours :P [00:51] it seemed like the whole house took a power hit while they were on vacation [00:51] phoenix^: actually the $100/hr figure isn't telling the whole story: it doesn't include time and gas spent driving to/from the gig (an 80 mile round trip). So really I made maybe $35 [00:52] antiwire: So the switch itself was also toasted by the power hit? (I'm assuming) :P [00:52] yeah [00:52] Urchlay: heh, well, could have been $0 [00:52] and a few other things in the house got hit too [00:52] antiwire: Were the systems themselves alright? [00:53] crap, there goes the network again [00:53] the computers seemed fine but one ethernet switch died and one of their wifi repeaters lost its config [00:53] CTCP PING reply from antiwire: 25.238 seconds [00:53] antiwire: Did they have any of it on surge suppressors, UPS's or anything? (Of course things can still get struck, but...) [00:54] the ISP had a filter on the fios switch but it didn't seem to help [00:54] the network switch that died wasn't protected at all [00:54] Well that's asking for it to get struck and fried. :P [00:54] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: "network problems" [00:54] yep [00:55] If I was on vacation, and there wasn't a need for that stuff to be running, I'd take the safe route and unplug it all. [00:55] ugh. I remember working in a place that had a server room with enough UPSes to keep 5 decently-large servers up for 4+ hours of power outage... but the T1 interface (CSU/DSU/whatever) was in the phone closet, on a UPS that lasted about 15 minutes :( [00:55] haha [00:56] I've worked in places like that. the server room had more space taken up with batteries than servers [00:56] it could run without mains for 30 minutes [00:57] qpp (n=qpp@99-195-55-117.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware. [00:57] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:57] the phone closet was property of MCI or someone like that, building tenants had no access whatsoever :( [00:57] Fractal antennae [00:58] antiwire must be on Mars [00:58] I'm not the one lagged homey [00:58] on Jupiter [00:58] Reply time from ChanServ: 1 seconds [00:58] on Saturn [00:58] Quiznos: and you must be on Pluto, and no sign of intelligent life. :D [00:58] on Neptune [00:58] heh [00:58] don't even say the next one... [00:58] stfu :) [00:59] naw, I'm the one [00:59] we all know what is coming next [00:59] on Ouranos [00:59] on Uranus *kekekekekek* lollerz [00:59] ... [00:59] still no reply [00:59] that being a ancient spelink [01:00] last and NOT a planet; [01:00] Urchlay,in a way i'd rather the servers last longer than the t1 - time enough for proper shutdowns [01:00] on Pluto. [01:00] antiwire: remember, Quiznos believes that spelling things wrong is an excellent form of communication and expression. :) [01:00] it is a valid of figero spish. [01:00] form of [01:00] maybe for you, but not for me :P My school, thankfully, didn't teach that. :) [01:01] so do eye! [01:01] yea well they live in a really teensy box. [01:01] macavity: OHGOD, not you too :P [01:01] antiwire ping packet lost in space [01:01] i love walking through large data centers, good cabling looks amazing when there's a crapton of it [01:01] lolspeak iz teh roxers too! [01:01] antiwire GIVE ME BACK MY PING PACKET!!! :) [01:02] It's his now, you can't have it. [01:02] hi people [01:02] fiyawerx lol crap-ton; i love that unit of measure [01:02] fiyawerx: have you told that to you shrink? :P [01:02] hi Thom1 [01:02] 'ello [01:02] welcome to the crazy hour [01:02] Thom1 avoid figero spishes with these uneducated clowns :) [01:02] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Reconnecting" [01:03] dont expect to get any meaningfull support at this moment [01:03] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:03] Quiznos will be your waitress tonight, what can he get you? [01:03] :)~ [01:03] Action: Urchlay drinks the last bit of vodka mixed with the last bit of Gatorade [01:03] heh [01:03] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [01:03] Urchlay: Vodkade? [01:03] Action: macavity offers coffee [01:03] or Gatorka? [01:04] phoenix^: if it's green gatorade, we call it a "green goddammit", if it's orange, we call it an "orange oh shit"... I dunno what blue is [01:04] (which is what I'm drinking now) [01:04] i think i remember reading an article about my companies data centers, something like 100,000 square feet [01:04] xl091 (i=xl091@88-107-80-243.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:04] Urchlay: hahaha [01:04] i could be comfortable in 100k' [01:04] Urchlay: What's yellow? [01:04] the lemon flavor [01:04] macavity: ugh, I've been running on coffee fumes for 24+ hours, haven't slept enough (had to get up butt-crack-of-dawn early, then kept getting woken up when trying to take a nap) [01:05] yeah, i'm happy with 2k [01:05] phoenix^: no idea, do they make yellow gatorade? These names were invented back when the only flavors were green & orange... [01:05] is there a crack-of-moon time? [01:05] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [01:05] my favorite flavor is purple [01:05] Urchlay: It's yellowish color, yeah. It's lemon-lime flavor [01:05] no clue why its called grape, it is definitely not [01:05] lemon-lime is green-looking to me [01:05] color red #40 might cause MS [01:05] heads up to anyone tracking Mesa [01:05] avoid it [01:05] latest commit requires xorg-server rebuild! [01:06] fiyawerx: purple? never had that. [01:06] used in coloring fish too [01:06] Quiznos: I'm old enough to remember the original red dye scare... though I can't remember what horrid disease it caused [01:06] yea [01:06] during the late 70s and 80s? [01:06] yah [01:06] nods [01:06] when they quit making red M&Ms [01:06] didn't it just make hyperactive kiddies worse? [01:06] but ceasing to eat that crap does cause reversal [01:06] duno [01:07] antiwire: eh, that can be said of any color M&M though [01:07] haha [01:07] it was the specific red dye # [01:07] Action: fiyawerx prefers the reeses [01:07] h1n1/winter flu scare beginning [01:07] mmm, yeah, ET-food [01:07] beginning?!? [01:08] well in the last few weeks i've heard more and more "reports" from tv/radio [01:08] it has been going on here for ages.. [01:08] where? [01:08] its just a freaking flue [01:08] Denmark [01:08] nods [01:08] bleah, people never get enough of hearing about new murderous strains of the flu, even though they continue to fail to wipe out civilization [01:08] well we meerkins wont put up it with it at all [01:08] my GF is down with it atm.. and it is not even as bad as some of the others that has been around [01:08] but alot of people are going to be dying in the next 2 decades [01:09] .. just like in the previous two [01:09] macavity give her PLENTY of VitC (good plain orange juice) and B complex supplements [01:09] Quiznos: probably so... what's your prediction as to what will kill them? [01:09] macavity at least a gram each per day [01:09] you realize that tens of thousands of people die from the normal flus each year anyway? [01:09] (I know a guy who thinks we'll be living in Mad Max World by 2020) [01:09] Urchlay animal, man, weather, war, lack of food, so-called TPTB actions against them [01:10] which would suck for me, I'm not a very good driver, and I suck as an auto mechanic [01:10] TPTB? [01:10] Revelation and gospels indicate 25% to die. [01:10] "the powers that be" [01:10] oh, right, powers that be [01:10] Quiznos: no need.. she only have a light fever.. so our normal vitamin pill and fruit/juice intake will probably suffice [01:10] the one's who think they can defeat Gawd [01:11] eh, without trying to start a religious debate, I will mention that all religions seem to predict the end of the world, and have been doing so for millennia, and the world is inexplicably still here [01:11] macavity fever is friction caused by movement of immunity system; feed it with vitamins and mineral supplements and good food and clean water. [01:11] get your money back for you bioligy lessons.. [01:11] you're joking right? [01:11] *biology [01:12] fever is friction? [01:12] wtf are you smoking? [01:12] Urchlay the planet shall not be destroyed (God says so) but the system, commerce, shall be controlled by God. [01:12] fever is heat generated by friction of cells and body fluid movement. [01:12] antiwire: something that kills brain cells? [01:12] antiwire: i dont think what he is on is smoked... [01:12] NetrixTardis (n=leoem@stealth3.com) left irc: "leaving" [01:12] indicates that immunity is collecting foreign matter [01:12] that doesnt belong in body. [01:12] antiwire: i think it comes in little red tablets from cambodia called yaba :P [01:12] fever is not from friction [01:12] you dont know. [01:13] Quiznos: eh, right, OK. No way to discuss this in here without violating channel rules, so I won't [01:13] pff [01:13] :) [01:13] Urchlay++ [01:13] long OTs have happened here today!!! [01:13] ** Now ignoring Quiznos [01:13] AND macavity caused it [01:13] pff [01:13] on the other hand I'm probably already in violation by getting buzzed and chattering about random crap [01:14] Urchlay: na, people chat [semi-]drunk all the time [01:15] I don't have enough vodka to get more than semi-drunk tonight :( [01:15] that seems to indicate that you *need* to get drunk? [01:15] in .oz, man taken to hospital after previous unknown superglued toilet seat in Mall [01:15] "need" is too strong of a word [01:16] how about, I'm in the mood to get drunk, for the first time in a couple months? [01:16] semi-drunk is good enough though [01:16] 90k ppl projected dead in .us from this season's coming influenza bout [01:16] Urchlay cool [01:16] buzzed, is approved word [01:17] comfrtably numb [01:17] how many people will die of old age, or car accidents, during that same time period? [01:17] if that is the normal case when you are in the mood for getting drunk, then i think it is justifiable to always have a good supply handy [01:17] Urchlay duno [01:17] Quiznos: yah, that's about right. In fact I think I'll put on some Floyd... [01:17] during what period? [01:17] nice [01:17] macavity: the period during which 90K people shall die of the flu [01:17] ah.. right.. never mind [01:17] Quadrphenia [01:17] +a [01:17] wrong band, but still good [01:18] ok [01:18] woops to me [01:18] i'm seeing the pyramid album cover [01:18] i'm in the mood for some real 60s rock [01:18] actually I don't have Quadrophrenia any more, would be a good thing to find again [01:18] goog it [01:18] yah [01:18] it was quadro? [01:19] no idea [01:19] heh [01:19] going by 20+ year old memory :) [01:19] yea [01:19] ooo some Herb Alpert!!! [01:19] honey!!! [01:19] wikipedia saith "Quadrophenia", only one R [01:19] and the o? or a? [01:20] O [01:20] k [01:20] I think if I were stranded on a desert island and could only take one album, it'd be "The Wall" by Pink Floyd [01:21] yep!! [01:21] if nothing else, it would drive me crazy and I'd drown myself or something, instead of living long enough to get tired of listening to it :) [01:21] i'd take all my stuff and wire to build a fractal antennae to get online. [01:21] lol [01:21] and collect energy by the wire too [01:22] ...and build a router out of coconuts? [01:22] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [01:22] nah heh [01:22] wouldn't even be easy to make a router out of a CoCo II [01:22] and the "Professor"'s howto book for island living [01:22] lol [01:22] maybe [01:22] klock (n=klock@bas10-quebec14-1177912581.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "leaving" [01:23] 6809 was an excellent cpu [01:23] bleah. The guy can make a radio out of coconuts, but he can't fix a hole in a boat? [01:23] gives me a mental woody [01:23] true [01:23] lol exactly [01:23] and soap to absorb internal radiation [01:23] m (n=m@c-67-182-208-26.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:23] 6809 was what I used to be so jealous of, in my 6502 days [01:23] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:23] fervent nods [01:23] (eh, well, the old 6502 days. Lately I'm back in 6502-land again) [01:24] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [01:24] crap.. TPB is still down [01:24] i think i figered out a general algorythm for translating any asm to its ml. [01:24] tpb? [01:24] oh the bay [01:24] like a generic assembler, you just plug in mnemonic/opcode tables? [01:25] or, one asm syntax to any ml [01:25] Action: quasar shudders over the recent changes on tpb [01:25] just read on the reg this morning that judge ordered tpb shut down again [01:25] just choose the machine language to output [01:25] alisonken1noc yea, that as months ago as i saw this morning. [01:25] from what i saw * [01:25] jawix (n=jawix@195.180.9.202) joined ##slackware. [01:25] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [01:25] you mean, you invented the cross-platform compiler? :) [01:26] It's been said with only slight exaggeration that C is portable assembly language... [01:26] well the src of the translator could be portable; adn with one syntax for all cpu's, choose the appropriate ml form for output. [01:26] yeah but... [01:26] i've heard that for decades. [01:26] NetrixTardis (n=leoem@pizza.stealth3.com) joined ##slackware. [01:26] yea? [01:27] NetrixTardis (n=leoem@pizza.stealth3.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:27] you write an algorithm that needs tons of stack space. Even if you get it to emit valid 6502 opcodes, there's only 256 bytes of stack to be had... [01:27] dont mix use from implementation. [01:27] i'm just talking imp [01:28] or, you're writing an interrupt service request routine, which has a fixed number of clock cycles in which to execute... [01:28] so? [01:28] (bad example, you'd just use a normal assembler for that last) [01:28] that's still coder's use you're writing about [01:28] possibly you have confused me... or the vodka has [01:28] i'm just talking about a generic assembler that could work on any cpu [01:28] one src asm language [01:29] to any cpu machine language form [01:29] are you talking about a generic set of mnemonics/addresing modes that assembles (compiles) down to whatever's needed on a particular CPU? [01:29] yes [01:29] i started by saying "i think i figered out" how to do this. [01:30] i need to review non intel nl formats [01:30] ml [01:30] but when you have addressing modes that don't exist on lots of CPUs (or maybe even exist only on one CPU), does that mean you have to emit a ton of emulation code to do the same operation, if it's not supported? [01:30] nop [01:30] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.71.131) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:30] you emit NOPs? :) [01:30] i'm not planning on doing that [01:30] no [01:31] it's not a MASM clone :) [01:31] you just spit out an error "program won't work on target CPU, dummy!" [01:31] heh nop [01:31] but i get what you're on about; the idiosyncracies of each cpu [01:31] or, er, the 8086 has how many GP registers? 4 16-bit ones? the 68000 has something like 16 or 32 of them... [01:32] yep [01:32] Sharp x68000 [01:32] and risc cpu's have many more [01:32] nice jp machine [01:32] NetrixTardis (n=leoem@pizza.stealth3.com) joined ##slackware. [01:32] so you either have to write all code so it uses the minimum number of registers that the least-common-denominator CPU uses, or else you're writing to a specific target (in which case, what use is the generic cross-platform syntax?) [01:32] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [01:33] right, specific target assembler with all targets handled/chosen via external runtime loadable tables [01:33] note: I'm not trying to say it's a bad idea, just trying to see whether you've put serious thought into it :) [01:33] yea, you're doin fine [01:33] helps me. [01:33] i'm still in mental-stage of dev [01:34] NetrixTardis (n=leoem@pizza.stealth3.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:34] so, more like a generic "assembler engine" with plugins for the different syntaxes? (syntaces? is there even a plural form?) [01:34] yes1 [01:34] ! [01:34] latinised [01:34] virii [01:34] though "virii" was invalid for some reason only of interest to Latin teachers and pedants :) [01:35] yea that too lol [01:35] not real latin [01:35] geek-latin [01:35] english abused term [01:35] NetrixTardis (n=leoem@pizza.stealth3.com) joined ##slackware. [01:35] "plugins" IMO is an abused overused term [01:35] well yeah [01:36] I prefer 'modular' and 'modules' [01:36] but anyway loadable modules of syntax-definitions (which may or may not need to include actual executable code) [01:36] NetrixTardis (n=leoem@pizza.stealth3.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:36] nods [01:36] icarus (n=sirjoshi@unaffiliated/min0s) left irc: "leaving" [01:36] the tables provide ml syntax/forms to translate src into [01:37] the src input is std looking asm code [01:37] pseudo fields of label code args... [01:37] right... and the source for any given CPU will be the "native" source for that CPU? (like, if I'm targetting the 6502, I write "LDA #$0A" instead of something like "MOV AL,0x0a"?) [01:38] i'm equivocating on that; i think i want to make one src input language for all. [01:38] x802 (n=jubei@cpe-98-155-140-177.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:38] how to ask dhcp server to give me another ip? don't want to renew current ip. [01:38] tricky [01:38] maybe [01:38] i do like the terminals tho for indicating mode [01:38] x802: er, that answer wan't for you :) [01:38] x802 its upto the isp [01:38] icarus (n=ZZ@cpe-72-177-142-8.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:38] x802 bawically, the isp has to assign your ip to another box for you to get another ip [01:39] that's called "you waiting for someone else to get online" [01:39] no, my local router. nat, switch , all in one router [01:39] o [01:39] duno [01:39] x802: changing your MAC address with "ifconfig eth0 hwaddr blahblah" will usually either give you a new IP, or else prevent you from getting an IP at all [01:39] generally those home-bought routers give out IP's in numerical order starting from .100 [01:39] Urchlay, i mac is burned in [01:39] er, hw, not hwaddr [01:40] unless you map the mac to an ip [01:40] if its at home can't you just give yourself a static ip and change it when you want to? [01:40] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [01:40] x802: maybe so, but most Linux drivers support spoofing the MAC (you have to stick that "ifconfig" somewhere in a bootscript, so it executes every boot, before rc.inet1 runs) [01:41] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Client Quit [01:41] beware though: I had one cable ISP charge a ridiculous fee for "unauthorized use by two computers at once" or something, when I changed my mac address (for troubleshooting purposes, wasn't trying to be sneaky) [01:42] wow [01:42] i hope you gave them the finger [01:42] couldn't [01:42] Urchlay, so the 48-bit mac.... part of it is changed? like the last36 bits [01:42] they were the only game in town [01:42] yea [01:42] x802: the whole thing can be changed [01:42] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.71.131) joined ##slackware. [01:42] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:43] Urchlay, which one is burnt in and which one is not burnt in? [01:43] x802: most ethernet (not wireless) card drivers for Linux support changing it. [01:43] I dont understand why we are advocating changing MAC addrs when he controls the router [01:43] he's learning; that's why [01:43] I'm not advocating it [01:44] Urchlay, so if i have dual boot, changing it on linux, will give me same MAC on windows? [01:44] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:44] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [01:44] SiegeX: I don't see where he says he controls the router though [01:44] " no, my local router. nat, switch , all in one router" [01:44] he said "no, my ... router" [01:44] local router is 192.16.1.1 [01:44] 168 [01:44] NetrixTardis (n=leoem@pizza.stealth3.com) joined ##slackware. [01:44] x802: no. It will revert to the "burnt in" MAC address on every boot (of either OS). But in Linux, you can have the OS change it for you before it tries to use the card. Not sure how (or if) you can do that on windows [01:45] x802: statically assign an IP in the 192.168.1.0/24 subnet and dont use DHCP [01:45] x802: are you on cable or dsl? [01:45] Urchlay, i see, so, it's sort of masking MAC over another MAC [01:45] x802: or, you can probably map your current MAC address to an IP and still use DHCP but always obtain the same IP [01:45] ...on the router [01:45] x802: but if you control the router. Why not set up a static mapping in the DHCP server, that maps your MAC address (The one you already have) to some IP address... or even simpler, do what SiegeX says, just statically assign it and don't bother using DHCP at all [01:46] the reason i ask, is to understand security on catalyst switch [01:46] x802: and you have your modem connected to your router and you are connected to the to the router? [01:46] I mean, Linux and Windows and AFAIK every OS that support TCP/IP, supports static IP addresses. You don't *have* to run DHCP. [01:46] want to understand if native software on the OS itself have an easy way of keep asking for new IPs [01:47] static IP-ness can be done via dhcpcd; by telling dhcpcd to lease for millions of seconds [01:47] on enterprise scale, dchp is a win03 server [01:47] x802: You are asking about getting a different WAN IP from your ISP or LAN IP from the LAN dhcp server? [01:47] LAN IP dude [01:47] ok [01:47] local router is 192.16.1.1 [01:47] 168 [01:47] lol [01:48] delete the dhcp lease in the 2k3 server [01:48] x802: your best bet: go to www.rfc-editor.org and search for the RFC(s) that describe DHCP in excruciating detail. Read them, and experiment with various options on your own network, until you understand it in excruciating detail too... [01:48] there will be a lease entry [01:48] ok, thx Urchlay [01:48] eh, and run tcpdump or wireshark or something, capture the DHCP packets so you can see what exactly's going on [01:49] NetrixTa1dis (n=leoem@shad0w.stealth3.com) joined ##slackware. [01:49] NetrixTa1dis (n=leoem@shad0w.stealth3.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:49] In Slackware there are dhcp addresses cached in /etc/dhcpcd/. Sometimes it is enough to kill dhcpcd, delete those cache files and restart dhcpcd but it depends on the dhcp server [01:50] the reason I mention reading RFCs is that I vaguely remember that there's such a thing as a DHCP Reject message, but I can't remember whether the client can send it to the server or not [01:50] /etc/dhcpcd/ <--that . was a sentence ending not a path . [01:50] Urchlay, no need, wireshark. so long that i know a user (supposely, a trusted port) won't attack the network [01:50] i am have to config dhcp snooping on switch [01:50] s/have/having/ [01:51] or, s/am// [01:51] the catalyst should support tap ports [01:51] icarus (n=ZZ@unaffiliated/min0s) left irc: "leaving" [01:51] you can see everything if you want [01:51] like, client says "O Server, bestow upon me an IP address"... server says "Lo, humble client, thine IP address is 192.168.1.100", and the client responds with a Reject message ("I don't like that one, gimme another!"), so the server has to respond with a different one or else refuse to give it one at all. But I can't remember whether it really works this way [01:51] antiwire, users can't bring the dhcp server down. unless that are good [01:51] rofl Urchlay [01:51] I know the client can request a particular IP, and the server can reject that [01:51] amen [01:51] rofl [01:51] x802: I didn't say anything about bringing down the dhcp server. [01:52] but I don't know (or don't remember) whether the client can reject the offer from the server [01:53] Quiznos: I wax locquacious under the influence of moderate amounts of alcohol [01:53] switch have a mac-ip table for dhcp snooping itself. that one extra task for the switch, table gets long, switch slows down [01:53] if I had more to drink, I'd end up speaking in caveman monosyllabic grunts [01:53] Urchlay rofl yea been that and said there :) [01:53] so users could DoS the switch [01:53] that too [01:54] I bet some perl could fake it well enough to fill up that table with fake dhcp stuff [01:54] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:55] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [01:55] "I don't need no arms around me! And I don't need no drugs to calm me!" [01:55] alnum lyric? [01:55] album [01:55] what happened to the "and there was much rejoicing" part [01:56] SiegeX wrong tune :) [01:56] "another brick in the wall, part 3" [01:56] tim taylor [01:56] nods [01:56] antiwire, what is a tap port? [01:56] i always thought it was 'no thoughts are chasm in the classroom" [01:56] tun/tap; google it [01:56] but i was like, why the eff are they talking about a chasm [01:56] in fact I'm about at the end of side 1 of the album (for those of us old farts who remember albums having 2 sides...) [01:56] Quiznos: NO [01:57] oh? [01:57] Urchlay lol damn [01:57] actually I suppose the Wall had 4 sides (2 LPs), so I'm at the end of disk 1 [01:57] dating youself [01:57] x802: Some catalyst switches support the ability to turn a specific port into a tap [01:57] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [01:57] you can tap the whole switch or by vlan [01:57] I tried dating myself, but my self dumped me after the 2nd date [01:57] port groupings too [01:57] antiwire, i never heard of a 'tap' feature [01:57] lol [01:57] as soon as that tap is guiness, im buying me one of those switches [01:58] yay [01:58] Quiznos: that's different than the tap feature I am talking about [01:58] i think i'll buy a bottle-o-beer this weekend [01:58] antiwire ok [01:58] i saw it [01:58] i tried touching my self, my the right hand slap my left hand [01:58] lol [01:58] bleah, the only alcohol left in the house is a single so-called beer [01:58] one's enuf [01:58] x802: cisco refers to it as span port [01:58] no eating [01:58] a "bud ice", which is undrinkable weak piss [01:58] for effective ness [01:59] ok [01:59] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: [01:59] antiwire, that's too general [01:59] ? [01:59] (not that "drinkable strong piss" would be any better I suppose) [01:59] forget it. [01:59] there are lots of span port types [01:59] let's send someone to .eu, they have 12% bee-ah [01:59] we have 12% beer here (Atlanta area) [01:59] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:59] old english is as close to strong piss with alcohol content as you can get [01:59] oh [01:59] ooo [01:59] though it's expensive and not sold in a lot of places [02:00] finally we got beer-related discussion again, here [02:00] Action: brbrbr wake up [02:00] ;) [02:00] i have a low tolerance (dont drink often) the last beer i had did a nice job on me :) [02:00] a few weeks ago [02:00] -) [02:00] SiegeX, does that imply somewhere, where one have to drink it's own? [02:00] is this too general? "Cisco SPAN port is a SwitchPort ANalyzer on the cisco catalyst that allows to select and span or copy traffic from one or more source switchports or source VLANs onto one or more destination ports. The destination port(s) runs a sniffing or a packet capture program like Ethereal, Wireshark or TCPDump." [02:00] .... [02:00] shuttle launch delay, weather. [02:00] that sounds like a tap to me... [02:00] rain/lightening [02:00] better delay, htan sorry [02:00] 24min delay so far [02:00] sure. [02:00] x802: ya, Bear Grylls taught me how =) [02:00] lifes at stackes, not only megabucks [02:00] Quiznos: there's a place about 20 miles from here that sells this stuff: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4223368 [02:01] nice [02:01] do they deliver? [02:01] eh, no [02:01] heh [02:01] mmmm Quiznossss [02:01] ever seen a drive-thru beer store? [02:01] they're up in Ohio [02:01] and Pennsy [02:01] yeah, there used to be one I knew of, in the 'burbs of atlanta [02:02] heh [02:02] strange place to buy [02:02] arn't there odd alochol laws round those parts? [02:02] they got shut down for not checking ID [02:02] SiegeX: yeah [02:02] oddest law: you can't buy any kind of alcohol in portable form (to take home with you) on sunday, but you can go to a bar & drink anything you want [02:03] (sunday laws are silly anyway, but if you're going to have one, why have one that promotes DUI?) [02:03] well they were meant to promote family activities on Sunday. [02:03] like church. [02:03] "it is ilegal for a moose to engage in sexual activity with another moose on a city sidewalk" [02:03] welcome to Alaska :P [02:03] lol [02:04] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [02:04] what's the penalty? [02:04] an arrow? [02:04] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: ""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."" [02:04] when i heard about that one i just figured: "so.. what about a moose engaging in sexual activity with a woman on a city sidewalk?" [02:04] haha [02:05] actually i would pay good money to see that.. especially if she consents ;-) [02:05] lol [02:05] and good money = ? [02:05] walmart to be built on "Civil-war" historically significant site [02:05] fire|bird: say $50 per spectator? [02:05] what's a good db modeling tool free as well ? [02:05] macavity: sounds good, I'll collect the money. :) [02:06] Quiznos: Will that store be called Warmart? [02:06] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Reconnecting" [02:06] heh [02:06] Urchlay (n=dammit@67.191.211.185) joined ##slackware. [02:06] fire|bird: no, you will show us the moose (and its equipment for the situation at hand) and the woman [02:06] wb Urchlay :P [02:06] the civil-war buffs/re-enactors were up in arms over the announcment [02:06] fire|bird: then we can talk about the final price :P [02:06] Urchlay Gordon Lightfoot [02:06] macavity: haha, yeah right, I'm not gonna be the one that ends up on the show "When Moose Attack" :P [02:07] fire|bird: if you come up with a hot slutty broard and a really scary moose i might go as high as 75 [02:07] Mo0o0o0o0o0o0zes [02:07] I'll show the woman though. :P [02:07] mornin [02:07] macavity lol [02:07] morning tewmten [02:07] 02:03 well they were meant to promote family activities on Sunday. [02:07] 02:03 like church. [02:07] fire|bird: =) [02:07] tewmten ~= twotem? [02:08] uh? no [02:08] Quiznos: what if I'm atheist (or Jewish, or whatever) and I don't believe Sunday has any significance? [02:08] Urchlay: the mooses?!? [02:08] stay home. [02:08] watch the toob [02:08] macavity: $76 and I'll get you two women. :) [02:08] i like sundays [02:08] find a girl, go on picnic [02:08] fire|bird: pimp hard at work! :P [02:08] yeah man [02:08] girls dig picnics [02:08] macavity: hahaha [02:08] staying home = no drinking. I don't believe you are allowed to tell me *I* can't do what I want because *you* think it's a sin [02:09] macavity: I'm sure there's at least one girl out there that will fsck for a buck [02:09] prepare during the weel [02:09] week [02:09] and, if I find a girl willing to go on a picnic with me, who's to say I don't want to have a few beers with her? [02:09] palliative - drink home ;) [02:09] Urchlay: or a few jäger [02:09] going on picnic is not engaging in commerce [02:09] usually [02:09] Urchlay: perhaps its the other way around: making sure the drunk husband gets out of the house at least once a week to give the familly a little peace ;-) [02:10] I mean, we're in a country with a constitution that specifically says church and state are separate, so what's up with religion-based sunday laws? [02:10] NO IT DONt!!! [02:10] wth does the const say that? [02:10] NO WHERE! [02:10] LOOK AT ME, CAPS LOCK [02:10] bleah, going to have to go google the constitution, it ain't like I have it memorized [02:10] lol [02:10] ok [02:11] uhm.. do you still get "contempt of the court" if you wont place your hand on the bible? [02:11] 1st amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof [02:11] oh, so gays can get married? [02:11] there is interference between states "constitution" and federal ones [02:11] I suppose this is a state law, not made by Congress, so it's not covered by the above [02:11] the 1st amendment says "Congress shall make NO LAW"; only congress has the authority to make law; neither the prefident nor the courts have the authority, right or power to make law. [02:12] and between former country and recent one [02:12] macavity: if gays are dumb enough to subject themselves to the hell that is marraige, I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to [02:12] Urchlay: roger.. but they cant in the US, can they? [02:12] homsexuals want government to give them a privilege that is not a right. [02:13] so in you eyes, congress is full of criminals, blowing constitution[means "traeason" charge :] [02:13] macavity: no, and I don't like the fact that they can't [02:13] "what congress giveth, congress can take away" [02:13] Quiznos: eh, how about heterosexual marraige? right or privilege? [02:13] the const doesnt give rights [02:13] birth right. [02:13] macavity: wont be held contempt, just inform the judge you'd rather do an honor oath [02:13] quasar: ah, ok [02:13] Quiznos: if someone's born gay, they don't get that birth right? [02:13] heterosexuals feel itself abused and ask about same priveleges ;) [02:13] i feel like a rebel [02:13] Action: quasar has had to do that once :p [02:13] the constitution says "rights guaranteed" not given. [02:14] nyRednek (n=yosi@68-25-227-63.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:14] guaranteed ~= secured ~= protected. [02:14] nix_chix0r: you are.. you are not running an Microsoft Only(TM) shop there ;-) [02:14] Urchlay "gayness" is a mental state; not a birth-right. [02:14] i drove home pantless [02:14] y0 nix_chix0r, how's it going? [02:14] nix_chix0r: and you know what happens to rebels if they get cought..... [02:14] because i didn't like them [02:14] lol [02:14] nix_chix0r: now burn your bra and I'll believe you're a rebel. :P [02:14] y0 LF4 [02:14] nix_chix0r i think there is a 'i' nmissing in pantless? [02:14] lol [02:14] especially pantless rebels! :P [02:14] my pants are like 3 sizes too big for me now so i was like to hell with it. took them off at a stop sign [02:14] nix_chix0r: good thing no cop pulled you over ;) [02:14] rofl [02:14] hey fire|bird [02:15] no cops to protect us from you? [02:15] funny you should say as i was leaving town some one was pulled over and i laughed [02:15] pffiffle [02:15] lol [02:15] dumb cop [02:15] i just hate pants heh [02:15] yea yea, sure sure (another exclusive macro by Quiznos) [02:15] lol [02:16] Uh, ma'am, have you been drinking tonight, I noticed at the stop sign back there you took off your pants. :P [02:16] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:16] hahahah [02:16] lol [02:16] Urchlay (n=dammit@67.191.211.185) left irc: "Reconnecting" [02:16] are there pics? [02:16] just blame global warming and everything'll be fine [02:16] naw i left my damn phone at work:( [02:16] it's gona die too [02:16] Quiznos: She once got locked out of her house in just a shirt. :P [02:16] in the winter haha [02:16] She's been a rebel for a while. :P [02:17] I remember hearing about that haha [02:17] i have all sorts of luck [02:17] nix_chix0r: Minnesota winter no less. :P [02:17] mmm, ankles and knees [02:17] yeah, Global Warming deadly dangerous :) guys, be careful up there ;-) [02:17] bs [02:17] cooling!!! [02:17] ie age beginning [02:17] water one ?:) [02:17] ice [02:17] nix_chix0r: yeah, and it never seems to be good luck. :P [02:18] yskapell (n=gkapel@195.134.89.99) joined ##slackware. [02:18] goooooodmornign guys [02:18] gm [02:18] how are you? [02:18] and apparently she runs around most of the day without pants.. she mentioned something a few days ago about rearranging furniture so people would stop peeping on her when she was pantless or something [02:18] why do you want to know? did the feds send you? [02:18] i still think there's an `i' missing in pantless [02:18] lol [02:18] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [02:18] i think he is a spy... [02:19] also a pronoun problem for nix_chix0r [02:19] all freindly and asking spooky questions... must be a spy... [02:19] macavity: send pantless nix_chix0r after him, then we'll find out. :P [02:19] i require a DNA test of nix_chix0r [02:19] nix_chix0r: go get him girl! [02:19] quasar, i ended up re arranging and it looks nice i should take pictures [02:19] pantless? [02:19] pantiless [02:19] PANTILESS!!! [02:20] if he is a spy he will pull a James Bond on her [02:20] Quiznos, you can get dna tests on think geek buy me one and i'll do it [02:20] lol [02:20] i'll send a pregnancy test [02:20] nix_chix0r: He really wants to check out your legs. :P [02:20] o0 [02:20] lol [02:20] oh my legs? [02:20] omg what did yo uthink i meant? [02:21] you're genderless here bc the clowns have pronoun trouble [02:21] being single sucks [02:21] Quiznos: well, you said pantiless, i.e. underwear. :P [02:21] Quiznos: She thought you wanted to check out fire|bird's legs :P [02:21] lol [02:21] yeah [02:21] no comment [02:21] OHGODWHY [02:21] miscommunication there [02:21] serious one too [02:21] spook: what does a plane ticket to Denmark cost? [02:21] macavity: well theres no direct flights, which air hubs can you fly to from denmark? [02:21] I agree spook but so does being with someone. [02:22] spook: any major european city [02:22] fire|bird, show some skin i think it's wanted [02:22] brb [02:22] LF4: no, in a relationship they suck (hopefully) [02:22] spook: but london or paris is probably the cheepest [02:22] nix_chix0r: I'm guessing Quiznos is a freak, start taking pictures of your feet and slowing take pictures up to the knee. :P [02:22] i am going to [02:22] he can piece them together [02:22] macavity: so it'd be 3 flights at the least. [02:22] nix_chix0r: skin? I'm a FIRE bird, the skin is gone [02:22] spook: wow [02:22] :P [02:22] spook: ah, right, you would have to get to sidney first? [02:23] nix_chix0r: and he will try to put them together too P [02:23] wrong direction imo. [02:23] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-iojzihuwjfmllrfz) joined ##slackware. [02:23] :P [02:23] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [02:23] spook: lol i see [02:23] i might trick and throw in part of hubbys leg and just say " no matter how much i shave the hair grows back instantly" [02:23] hahaha [02:23] nix_chix0r: he might get turned on by that. [02:24] ;) [02:24] nix_chix0r: He might like the all natural look. :P [02:24] ewww [02:24] hairy armpits and all. :P [02:24] Haha my co-worker just found out he was eating mold covered beef jerky lol [02:25] nix_chix0r: my router is sitting up in Eagan, go get it for me. :P [02:25] LF4: UGH [02:25] LF4: He thought it was suppose to be green? :P [02:25] macavity: perth > sydney > LA > NY > Londox > denmark [02:25] eagan, ok [02:25] nix_chix0r: j/k though, it'll be delivered here tomorrow [02:25] spook: holy... [02:26] macavity: or like, perth > dubai > munich? > denmark ? [02:26] fire|bird: No the first piece didn't have any mold on it but tasted funny and then then second piece was covered. haha who knew jerky could get moldy. [02:26] my outfit didnt get sent cause it was back ordered [02:26] jerky shouldn't get moldy [02:26] juice__ (i=juice@ice-cold.net) joined ##slackware. [02:26] LF4: will he hurl or won't he?? :P [02:26] spook: that sounds cheeper imho [02:26] LF4: Well, we know that now. :P [02:26] macavity: staying away from indian airlines as much as possible. [02:26] Nick change: juice__ -> juice2 [02:26] Rat409: he was making funny noises and said something about "I'm going to go throw up now, i'll be back" [02:27] Rat409: Hurl or No Hurl <---by the creators of Deal or No Deal [02:27] spook: but still.. getting a 2 way ticket probably costs six months of salary :-/ [02:27] haha [02:27] yeah prod [02:27] macavity: so why? [02:27] spook: not something you just do on a hunch to visit a freind for three weeks to get over a girl :-/ [02:27] oh. [02:27] Nick change: Rich^ -> Richlv [02:28] we need teleport booths all over the world! [02:28] x802 (n=jubei@cpe-98-155-140-177.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [02:28] I second that macavity [02:28] I third that macavity [02:29] just like a regular telephone booth.. perhaps something that can be retroactively mounted on the telephone system :P [02:29] heh\ [02:30] we just need some way to make sure you dont telefrag people [02:30] the only kind of teleporting that would be possible would quantum in nature, which is really damn hard to do [02:30] like a mutex system call :P [02:30] macavity: just like in the Matrix. :P [02:30] schweet! [02:30] same effect when you disapear too [02:30] Ugh, why can't claws have an export filters option. :/ [02:31] macavity: haha, yeah [02:31] btw, why dont we see in the matrix what it looks like when they are "uploaded" to the matrix? [02:31] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.159.146.244) joined ##slackware. [02:31] macavity: because its instant :P [02:31] there is no lag in the matrix [02:31] macavity: We'd have to take the blue pill first to see that. :P [02:31] bc they arent really uploaded [02:31] it's a "mind reader" [02:32] I met a mind reader once they were creepy [02:32] you meet them all the time [02:32] and fake. [02:32] by talking. [02:32] talking is mind reading. [02:32] LF4: You will be married in your first life. :P [02:32] fire|bird: I wont be married at all :P [02:32] haha [02:33] yeah i dont think i will be either. [02:33] LF4: See, they don't know nothin. :P [02:33] Haha true [02:33] it's 0230h; i think i'm gonna goto the walmart and committ commerce [02:34] Action: quasar goes to town on Quiznos' face with a stapler. (RAV#2) [02:34] \o/ [02:35] Action: fire|bird high fives quasar [02:35] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [02:35] tuvok302-a (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [02:35] s/stapler/electric nail gun/ :D [02:35] amazingly that was completely random too lol [02:35] Well that was great randomality. :P [02:36] i can see from the context that /ignore was the right option earlier :P [02:36] macavity: /ignore Quiznos <----me thinks :P [02:36] :P [02:37] I've been meaning to try that option out myself. :P [02:37] polish sausage is yummy [02:37] i am semi grumpy today, so i would have had a hard time staying off the "what are you smoking" and/or name calling behaviour [02:37] haha [02:38] is pot legal in denmark? [02:38] nope [02:38] This is ridiculous, claws can't export filters. :/ [02:38] macavity: why are you grumpy? [02:38] he saw snow white with another dwarf. :P [02:38] i screwed up my bio clock again [02:38] lol. [02:38] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:38] macavity: why so serious? [02:39] fire|bird: start running! ;-) [02:39] haha [02:39] It wasn't me, I swear. :P [02:39] spook: because it has been a re-occuring curse in my life that i reverse day and night [02:39] night guys, be well! [02:39] night Rat409 [02:39] spook: and it has some consequences that i am not willing to pay [02:39] Rat409 (n=Rat409@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:40] spook: among other things it ruins my already fragile economy... [02:40] macavity: but, why so serious? [02:40] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) joined ##slackware. [02:40] i dont know.. do i seem more serious than i usualy am? [02:41] Morning all [02:41] morning [02:41] Action: spook is trolling macavity, like i troll my cousin [02:41] ah [02:41] i am serious because i am out of .45 slugs ;-) [02:42] whats gun control like in denmark? [02:42] 100% [02:42] you cant get semi automatic weapons at all.. period [02:42] revolvers? [02:42] nope [02:42] adeodatus (n=RF@92.82.87.122) joined ##slackware. [02:42] those are technically semi automatic too [02:43] deringers? [02:43] de-what? [02:43] adeodatus (n=RF@92.82.87.122) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:43] tiny tiny tiny caliber 1 shot weapons [02:43] you can get hunting rifles and shotguns if you have a hunting license [02:43] thats it [02:43] same as australia [02:44] and I thought CA was bad [02:44] SiegeX: this is good, not bad. [02:44] and a hunting license is expensive and requires you to go "to school" [02:44] Action: edman007 schools macavity [02:44] SiegeX: we have virtually no unregisterd firearms among the criminals [02:44] lol [02:45] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:45] when all the guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns [02:45] stoopit people forgot their govt is from them. [02:45] edman007: so? whats the subject? :P [02:45] meat [02:45] sweet [02:45] great, so you get shot by a registered gun while you wield a kitchen knife [02:45] Quiznos: from or for [02:45] from; [02:46] SiegeX: no.. less than .25% of the population has a hunting license [02:46] the people give up a few collectively common rights such as defense and border protection and a few other things. [02:46] SiegeX: it is actually an exam that you will fail if you dont pay attention [02:46] kitchen knives are actually the most murder weapon. [02:46] THE MOST [02:46] alisonken1noc "hi i'm from govt and i'm here to help" pff yea right. [02:47] depends - is he wearing fatigues? :) [02:47] hi i'm the internet, i'm gluing captions to your cats [02:47] alisonken1noc doesnt matter [02:47] i should probally stop having rum for breakfast [02:47] i can even grammar properly [02:47] hahaha [02:47] heh [02:47] :P [02:48] somebody noobfarm that [02:48] if you are having rum for breakfast you should probably worry about other things than your grammer ;-) [02:48] welp i gotta commit commerce; gonna ride the dark-fantastic to walmart [02:48] well i woke up at 1:30pm, so i figured it was fine [02:48] bbs [02:48] try food [02:48] i feel like polish sausage [02:48] mmm [02:48] bbs going to deli [02:49] :P [02:49] Do people prefer still hardware raid over software raid nowadays, given the low cost of CPUs? [02:49] I haven't looked into this for at least...3 years [02:49] so I'm quite out of it [02:49] i loooove software raid [02:49] my fileserver just filled up, so I was looking more into it [02:49] linux mdadm raid 10 -l f2 [02:49] the problem with software raid is that usually when you need the CPU power the most, the fs is really active too... [02:50] http://spooksoftware.com/blockspeed/ < prutty graphs [02:50] spook: I'm just about to set up a softraid 10. How was it? [02:50] FUCK YEAH SEAKING its awesome. [02:50] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:50] the graphs are the raw blockspeed, in megabytes/s [02:51] macavity: are you using hardware raid? [02:52] i cant affort neither the one nor the other [02:52] i have 4 x 1tb disks [02:52] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-67-120.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:52] i am stuck with a laptop, and will probably be for quite some time still [02:54] iGaucho (n=mark@72.8.75.142) joined ##slackware. [02:55] a silencer on a p90 looks really silly [02:55] lol [02:55] i just got 32floz of beer for $1.80 [02:55] who are you going to shoot? [02:56] watching stargate atlantis [02:56] antiwire: dish water with alcohol? :P [02:56] coors original [02:56] or rather, re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-watching it [02:56] e-i-e-i-o [02:57] nix_chix0r: are you drunk too now?!? [02:57] nix_chix0r: and on that farm there was a cow [02:57] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:57] sg-1 is better than sg-a. no offense, just IMO [02:57] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD898E8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:57] y0 slackytude [02:57] slackytude: hotline? [02:57] brbrbr: well obviously, considering sg-a ran for half as long [02:58] !turnon flamewar [02:58] macavity, i'm just that awesome [02:58] -) [02:58] nix_chix0r: What's it like to be awesome? [02:58] nix_chix0r: riiight... :P [02:58] but i've watched sg-1 three times as many times [02:58] also some small shows [02:58] I think I'm going to do Raid5, since it seem sto be the most popular [02:58] like threeshold [02:58] NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [02:58] tux (n=tux@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:58] redtricycle: don't. [02:59] macavity, it's true! [02:59] nix_chix0r: show me pics or it didnt happen! :P [02:59] nix_chix0r: in that case i had awesome for breakfast lunch dinner and breakfast again. [02:59] pics of being awesome? [02:59] yessir [02:59] spook, :o [03:00] nix_chix0r: gosh, everyone wants pics of you tonight. :P [03:00] you really are awesome :P [03:00] wait! Why not raid5? [03:00] they are on the internet [03:00] Action: LF4 \o me o/ me o/ me I want pics too! [03:00] raid6ee ? raid7 :P [03:00] haha [03:00] i have no secrets [03:00] redtricycle: LOTS OF REASONS [03:00] LF4: I haz to see your I.D. first. :) [03:01] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.82.238) joined ##slackware. [03:01] Action: LF4 gives fire|bird the offical barny club card. [03:01] the biggest of which are random data loss, and increased risk of double disk failure after the first failure [03:01] redtricycle: raid10 is also popular [03:02] if you have the disks [03:02] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: "Command not found." [03:02] raid10 is BETTER than raid5 [03:02] in almost every way [03:02] raid 15 ftw [03:02] raid 15 sucks even more than raid 5 [03:02] in case you have at least 6 discs to build it [03:03] raid15 sucks 10X more than raid5? :) [03:03] so, raid 6ee ftw :P [03:03] alisonken1noc: yes [03:03] spook: you missed the smiley [03:03] raid6 is slightly better than 5, but still suffers the same fundamental problems [03:03] spook: which are? [03:03] tell me about it. raid6 takes forever to resync after a drive replacement [03:03] raid6!=raid6e!=raid6ee [03:04] brbrbr: but all three use double parity right? [03:04] of course, when you have 1T and 1.5T drives, even raid10 takes at least a couple of hours :) [03:04] "nearly forever resync meant "weak ic inside controller"" [03:04] greetings [03:04] macavity, yes [03:04] and that happen in all raid builds [03:04] hey slackytude [03:05] y0 fire|bird [03:05] morning [03:05] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86.42.158.215) joined ##slackware. [03:05] brbrbr: then I must have a lot of weak IC's since I've replaced multiple raid6 drives in different systems and it still took several days to sync each one [03:05] yeah, all tree are sub-variatons [03:05] Action: fire|bird hits tux over the head with tuz [03:05] (the machine I'm sshing through has troubles, /me going with another machine) [03:05] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.11) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [03:06] fire|bird: you'll never see my browser now that I'm dead :D [03:06] tux: who said I killed ya? :P [03:06] linux mdadm raid10, layout far, beats everything else in preformance. [03:06] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-171-191.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:06] so your point is "raid6 implementations, ecountered on my way, have weak implementations"? [03:06] mdadm - how about 3-ware (which we've had some problems with) or LSI (which seems to be better here)? [03:07] raid10 good palliative if you dont care about hdd utilization too much [03:07] raid6 takes a looooong time to resync after a drive replacement, and it has problems if you have to sync several drives at the same time [03:07] fire|bird: you killed two of my three neurons ='( [03:07] meant "usable storage spece from given hdd's volume" [03:08] tux: I thought you had 4? [03:08] alisonken1noc which is fault of implementation [03:08] not 6 level of raid, itself [03:08] weak IC, asap [03:08] fire|bird: I killed number 4 with the beer on yesterday [03:08] if the question involves sata and real RAID, the answer is 3ware [03:09] tux: lol [03:09] brbrbr: and again - although it's not impossible, how come the same thing happens on multiple machines with both 3-ware and LSI raid cards? [03:09] I've also setup Dell SCSI PERC controllers with Slackware and they worked awesome too [03:09] antiwire: we have a slight difference of opinion there :) LSI seems to work better in our systems [03:09] answer is FC-NAS-SAS box. but thats depend budget [03:09] alisonken1noc: it happens [03:10] bnhashmi (n=bnhashmi@64.208.214.225) joined ##slackware. [03:10] The Dell PERC stuff is supported by libsmbios too, a huge plus [03:10] raid6xx is recently new and still underdeveloped i guess. but for exact answer you need to check related maillist, i guess [03:10] great way [03:11] *day [03:11] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:11] bluescreen on booting this one machine [03:11] slackytude: The space rock hasn't been sighted yet. how can it be a great day? [03:11] and I cant throw a new image on it cos it has some funky licensed software [03:11] antiwire, I was being sarcastic [03:12] unmountebal boot device [03:12] lem (n=root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [03:12] The greatest day will be the day that the unavoidable, cataclysmic space rock is sighted on a course with impact to Earth with a near 1 probability [03:12] uh [03:13] Im on vacation at mars by that time [03:13] sorry, leave a message [03:13] I'll seek out ground zero [03:13] I'm still waiting to surf to Denver [03:14] Interstellar billiards is the way to go, I say [03:15] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-180-238-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:15] iGaucho (n=mark@72.8.75.142) left irc: "BitchX is a flavored condom, all the women love it's taste" [03:16] Doom III scenario, i guess :P [03:16] that's the gnarliest BX message evar [03:18] bunbum (n=server@189.82.1.97) joined ##slackware. [03:19] hey [03:19] Dang that 32oz of cheap beer works. [03:19] lem (n=root@86.81.102.210) left ##slackware. [03:19] antiwire, can I have your autograph? [03:19] Yes, paypal me 50 bucks [03:19] alisonken1noc: you're the one working at dreamhost, right? could you install irssi? xD [03:19] (j/k ;) ) [03:20] irssi huh? [03:20] wow... 50bucks for an autograph .... i got amy whine for nothing [03:20] :) [03:21] I got ronald reagan's by having lunch at his santa barbara ranch (btw - the secret service guys really know how to cook a side of beef on a bbq) [03:21] I'm not a crack whore [03:21] I usually ssh through a friend's machine which is always up and it is still up but the network must be drunk and/or high [03:21] hahahahahahha [03:21] lol [03:21] antiwire, lol shes not...... [03:22] could have fooled me [03:22] she is just someone who cares about some privacy [03:23] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:24] hey guys did you hear bout that black guy that suicide live on a cam [03:24] thats pretty freak, isnt it? [03:25] Haven't heard about that. [03:25] oh wow lol [03:26] he told people he was going to do it, invited them to watch it... did it, then the people were calling him names and shit because they thought he staged it [03:26] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:26] antiwire, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZBHmS6ayIQ [03:27] on OD? [03:28] what was the anti-depressant? [03:28] "at some point he expires" [03:28] Wow. [03:28] Expires. [03:28] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) joined ##slackware. [03:29] OD on anti-deps [03:29] aka: endless sleep [03:30] "much better chance" ... [03:31] someone calls and it would take how long for them to get there? [03:31] yeah friends today we see a suicide on a webcam, what will be expected for tomorrow [03:31] birth? :P [03:31] Rock bottom prices on clearance hamburgers [03:31] yeah that news casts blames it on the internet... [03:31] whatever [03:32] do they blame Golden Gate bridge suicides on the bridge? [03:32] yskapell (n=gkapel@195.134.89.99) left ##slackware. [03:33] what about building jumpers? it's the fault of the building? [03:33] guns dont kill people [03:33] that was so said, I cant picture anyone nears me doing such thing, even my curt cobain fannatics friends [03:34] yeah, im blame hamburgers for that ;) [03:35] they underfried ;) [03:35] I wonder if hes at heaven or hell right now [03:36] he's about 6-8ft below the topsoil [03:36] quasar oh man [03:36] he's dead. you can speculate all you want on where he is. [03:37] antiwire, talk like wiser gizzer [03:37] that right there ^ is awesome [03:38] anyone for some pong? I'll start it.. [03:38] | . [03:38] `| [03:38] .| [03:38] damn [03:38] i win [03:38] your too bad quasar [03:39] why do you say that? [03:39] noone can beat me on real ping pong [03:40] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [03:41] i wonder if you can beat this guy http://pbskids.org/mayaandmiguel/english/games/sports/pingpong/pingpong.html [03:42] that game sucks [03:42] miguel sucks [03:42] antiwire, gimme something better please [03:43] http://www.miniclip.com/games/stunt-pilot/en/ [03:45] fuck it just crashed [03:45] :) [03:46] then YOU suck [03:47] antiwire, at real life im actually a pilot [03:47] bunbum: I'm the one filming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBvBuQxp5jk [03:48] WoWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW [03:48] spook: still around (and somewhat sober?)? 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[03:52] it was as awesome ride too ;) [03:52] Hi [03:52] as/an [03:53] I am doing instructions from http://slackwiki.org/Sendmail_TLS_SASL_SMTP-AUTH [03:54] But I have no idea what author says when he says about CSR from CAcert.org [03:54] Action: quasar shudders at the thought of using sendmail -_- [03:54] First, start by creating your private key and Certificate Signing Request (CSR) as shown in the much easier than before steps below. The only field in you need to fill is the Common Name (CN). Put your mailserver hostname there when prompted, like mail.doe.org [03:54] root@john:~# openssl genrsa 1024 > smtp.key.pem [03:54] root@john:~# openssl req -new -key smtp.key.pem > newreq.csr [03:54] Channel flood from ktos -- kicking [03:54] Get the CSR signed by CAcert.org. That will give you the server certificate, paste it into a file named smtp.cert.pem [03:54] ktos kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [03:54] ktos (n=ktos@adfn2.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [03:54] andrew_50 (n=andrew@unaffiliated/andrew50/x-1857826) joined ##slackware. [03:55] sorry for flood [03:55] andrew_50 (n=andrew@unaffiliated/andrew50/x-1857826) left irc: Client Quit [03:55] Tell me please, what is he talking about? Should I downlaod CSR from CAcert.org or rename newreq.csr ? [03:55] Because it's confusing [03:56] lol...... I some gizzer going " look how slow he's going" and then it blasted ... on F22 video [03:56] ktos: CSR is a cert REQUEST that you send to them - they sign your request and send you your CERT that you use [03:56] bunbum: hahaha [03:56] bunbum: I promise that wasn't me saying that [03:57] hahahahah [03:57] alisonken1noc: ah, now I undestand [03:57] can anyone tell me when "Camarade_Tux" last disconnected? [03:57] alisonken1noc: is it neccesary? [03:58] I mean not for security but for working [03:58] tux: about 4 hours ago [03:58] quasar: thanks [03:58] bunbum: watch the dirt bike clips, I chase the land yachters [03:58] Action: quasar r stalker. [03:58] np [03:58] if you want your website to do ssl without people having to keep clicking on "CERT is not verified, accept anyways?" [03:59] omfg how cute videos [03:59] I duct taped the cam to the fender [03:59] ah, ok, thats for sasl only so I hope outlook will not ask about [03:59] don't know since I don't use outlook [03:59] hehe, thank you alisonken1noc a lot :) [03:59] np [04:00] slackytude2 (n=hotline@p4FD898E8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [04:00] sup slacky [04:01] antiwire, you're such a motherfucker lucky [04:01] \o/ [04:02] had to repair a win machine [04:02] and couldnt get to repair console [04:02] floppy drivers for SATA suck [04:02] "Try to avoid boolean operators, such as: not and and or or" <-- tf? [04:02] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [04:03] my eyes go all crossed when trying to read that [04:03] complexmess (n=complexm@adsl-76-203-173-83.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [04:03] it should says "such as: not and and and or" [04:03] quasar, not,and,or [04:03] Prerequisites: # Call that friend who told you to move to Postfix and ask him to call you back in an hour. [04:03] that would be much easier to read imo lol [04:03] heloos [04:03] lol [04:04] that was line from thoose howto [04:04] "not, and and or" is proper english.. but just as unreadable [04:04] i has question [04:04] it makes more sense if you do this "not, and 'and or' " [04:04] Later guys. Take care. [04:04] anyone willing to put up with me for a bit?? [04:05] if you has moneis then we has answers [04:05] bai bai [04:05] i has internetz [04:05] see ya fire|bird [04:05] do you accept internetz? [04:05] see ya slackytude2 [04:05] if it's green :) [04:05] internetz is for pornz! [04:05] \o/ [04:05] try just asking your question :P [04:05] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [04:05] asking to ask is just a waste of time [04:05] complexmess, you female by chance? [04:06] lulz, okies, i'd like to make a reconnect script because i've noticed that my connection on this computer drops sometimes [04:06] slackytude2: that's irrelevant =P (i don't want to answer) [04:06] wireless? [04:06] yes [04:06] use wicd from extra/ [04:06] asking to ask is proper [04:06] it automatically reconnects [04:07] not on irc it aint [04:07] anyway, if you is not female I dont want to put out with you [04:07] complexmess: actually, as per the channel guidelines (se topic) we dont ask to ask there :P [04:07] complexm1ss (n=complexm@adsl-76-203-173-83.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [04:07] grawr [04:07] i's still learning to use screen [04:08] and irssi [04:08] complexmess: use wicd from extra/ [04:08] okies ty [04:08] dont forget to read the README in that dir [04:08] are you on 12.2? [04:08] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [04:08] yes [04:09] i think i am [04:09] cat /etc/slackware-version [04:09] yes i am [04:09] bunbum: come out to the California desert, we'll have fun [04:09] unless you are using a hidden ESSID, then wicd should work wonders for you [04:10] okies ty [04:10] just make sure your regular user is a member of plugdev [04:10] macavity: lol [04:10] sorry, netdev! [04:10] okies [04:10] macavity: if you use wpa_supplicant.conf you can handle those hidden essids [04:10] muhaha [04:10] antiwire: i know [04:10] i don't v___v [04:10] complexmess: then you should be golden [04:11] macavity, netdev is for 13, no? [04:11] complexmess: dont forget to read the relevant manpages :P [04:11] slackpkg install wicd [04:11] i think slackytude2 has a point.. i missed 12.2 intirely [04:11] macavity, yeppers [04:11] complexmess: listen to slackytude2, he is probably better informed than me [04:11] no need to add user into any group for wicd on the 12.x series [04:12] how do i install wicd from extra [04:12] slackpkg install wicd [04:12] There are also people who have some random pull of -current before slackware-version was changed [04:12] tyvm [04:12] slackpkg not found [04:12] slackware-current still showed 12.2 after massive changes had taken place, at least for a little bit [04:12] <.<; [04:12] antiwire also has a point.. but we *asume* that complexmess would tell us if he was running -current [04:12] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD898E8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:12] California Dreaming On such a winter's day [04:13] complexmess: you did not do a full install :P [04:13] bunbum: haha [04:13] no i don't think i did [04:13] complexm1ss: mount 12.2 cd - "cd /extra/wicd && installpkg wicd*.tgz [04:13] okies tyvm [04:13] how does i scroll in irssi? [04:14] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:14] how can you live without slackpkg [04:14] i've never needed it <.<; [04:14] it is the nicest thing since liced bread [04:14] slackytude2: easy - I just started checking it out with 13RC2 :) [04:14] macavity: liced bread, huh? [04:15] *sliced [04:15] nitpit! :P [04:15] extra protein with those carbs? [04:15] what? you dont put lice on your bread? [04:15] ah.. now i got it [04:15] i losted my slackware dvd T_____T, to the wicd website then right? [04:16] no [04:16] complexm1ss: go to a slackware mirror and d/l [04:16] to you local slackware ftp mirror and download the package [04:16] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slackytude|evil [04:16] complexmess: ftp://ftp.slackware.no/linux/slackware/slackware-12.2/extra/wicd [04:16] lice embedded bread? ew ew ew [04:17] complexmess: and again, dont omit to read the nice letter from Patrick in the above directory [04:17] Nick change: slackytude|evil -> slackytude|verye [04:17] Nick change: slackytude|verye -> slackytude|evil [04:17] complexmess: conveniently named README.SLACKWARE [04:17] hah [04:18] Walmart sells a chocolate eclair for 58 cents that is to die for :) great with coffee [04:18] Guest52183 (n=ikaiyu@91.205.74.28) left ##slackware. [04:20] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) joined ##slackware. [04:20] macavity: thank you very much for ur help =P [04:20] what is netconfig though <.<; [04:20] sorry that i'm such a nub [04:20] complexm1ss: /etc/init.d/rc.inet1.conf [04:21] not /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf? [04:21] complexm1ss: sorry - been working on debian-based machines for a while at the office :) [04:21] mornin ken [04:21] alisonken1noc: okies =P [04:21] Quiznos: yo [04:21] God the eclaire is good [04:22] complexm1ss: netconfig is the script that is run during the installer that asks you about networking information [04:22] so the readme says, make it look as if netconfig has never been run by removing references to interfaces in rc.inet1.conf [04:22] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [04:23] macavity: so which are the references???? [04:23] or rather, make sure all references are commented out (makes it easier for later) [04:23] so comment out anything with a [0] ? [04:23] complexm1ss: USE_DHCP[0]="yes" [04:23] i mean [n] [04:23] IPADDR[0]="10.3.68.116" [04:23] i'm using a static ip though [04:23] etc. [04:23] or stuff like that.. make sure there is nothing set for anything [04:24] oh okies [04:24] complexm1ss: then you configure the static ip via wicd-client [04:24] comment _all_references in rc.inet1.conf [04:24] so essentially.... everything? [04:24] yep [04:24] wicd handles it for you [04:24] okies ty [04:24] you know i've never tested to see what happens if you just mv rc.inet1.conf rc.inet1.conf.backup [04:25] or mv rc.inet1.conf rc.inte1.conf-backup && touch rc.inet1.conf [04:25] haha [04:25] :P [04:25] is there a way in vim to insert a # at the beginning of every line? [04:25] complexm1ss: just do the mv and touch [04:25] okies [04:26] touch would work - the line in rc.inet1 ". /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf" would probably just cause an error out put about "file not found" but won't affect the rest of the script [04:26] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:26] complexm1ss: do the "mv ... && touch ..." method as a shortcut [04:27] done [04:27] i needs to install wicd though [04:27] as root "installpkg wicd*.tgz" [04:27] download the .tgz and installpkg it [04:27] oOo [04:27] i did tar -xzvf [04:27] was that bad? [04:27] >_< [04:28] don't make that face! [04:28] http://notfaq.wordpress.com/2006/07/28/vim-comment-blocks-of-code/ [04:28] complexm1ss: no - but it's not recommended since it doesn't update the package database (/var/log/packages) [04:28] you scares me [04:28] now you have a directory next to the package [04:28] no problem, just rm -r that [04:28] i just did installpkg though [04:28] but as alisonken1noc said... installpkg wicd*tgz [04:28] unless you installed it at root [04:29] i did install it as root [04:29] complexm1ss: sorry - comment to macavity about rm -r the directory from your tar -zxvf :) [04:29] oh okies [04:29] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [04:29] okies now before i try to use wicd [04:29] alisonken1noc: the packages are stripped of the leading / so it should just unpack to a bunch of direcotries in $PWD [04:30] and possibly d/c myself, what should i know? [04:30] macavity: should, but it also may do ./*** :) [04:30] ..... [04:30] great thanks [04:30] bbl =P [04:30] complexm1ss (n=complexm@adsl-76-203-173-83.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [04:31] ok.. too fast complexmess [04:31] mrselfpw1 (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-glicqdfuscxqeecy) joined ##slackware. [04:31] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.4) left irc: "Leaving" [04:31] :) [04:31] lets see if he has a /setup or /install now :P [04:31] it is setup/doinst.sh isnt it? [04:32] install/doinst.sh I thought [04:32] right [04:32] and no leading / [04:32] well.. if he copied the packge to / and did tar xzvf on it, then he has [04:32] that wasnt clear from the context [04:32] or -root [04:32] my earlier point, true :) [04:33] wicd, eh. i just use iw_* and wpa_* [04:33] but if it was tar from /, then the installpkg will fix that [04:33] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [04:33] ah, didnt know that [04:34] yes, preventing people from using explodepkg is a bad thing [04:34] "eh, i wonder what is inside this package.. wooops, now i have it installed" is a good way to become unpopular :P [04:34] :) [04:34] complexm1ss (n=complexm@adsl-76-203-173-83.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [04:34] grawr [04:35] how does i configure my intarwebs with wicd?? [04:35] run wicd-client as the documentation says? [04:35] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:35] i did that [04:35] and? [04:36] h/o i will pastebin [04:36] k [04:37] wicd-client > log.txt is not dumping to the file, why is that? [04:37] just tell me in rough terms what happens [04:37] does it bitch that you are not running X? [04:38] no [04:38] is wicd use a gui? [04:38] i ElmerJFudd [04:38] wicd-client is a gui [04:38] v__v; [04:38] wicd is the system daemon [04:38] well i'm using open-box right now so it shouldn't really have problems right [04:39] ? [04:39] h/o [04:39] that should be good [04:39] did you set /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd +x and run it as the documentation says? [04:39] ... [04:39] lulz [04:39] grazymax (n=grazymax@host155-55-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [04:39] sorry [04:39] i fergots [04:40] ... [04:40] hi all [04:41] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:41] i don't have a system tray though <.<; and the README says to open it from there [04:42] 'wicd-client -n' iirc [04:42] ty [04:42] tux++ [04:42] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [04:43] tux+++ [04:43] 8-) [04:43] you should take off your glasses [04:43] i think they make him look like a happy nerd [04:44] Bart_S (n=Shan@83.119.172.124) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:44] ouch [04:44] so by all means, keep them on.. happy nerds are good for the slackware community :P [04:44] it's so cloudy here I don't see anything anyway [04:44] wait... so where is it that i can set my static ip settings? [04:44] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.82.238) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:44] Bart_S (n=Shan@83.119.172.124) joined ##slackware. [04:44] complexm1ss: in the preferences button that corresponds to your AP essid... [04:45] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [04:45] sorry "properties" [04:45] oic, i can click on teh names [04:45] xD [04:47] craptastic.. TPB is still down :-/ [04:47] okies so now, instead of running rc.inet1, the computer will startup trying to connect with wicd? [04:47] yes [04:47] complexm1ss: if you hate guis exec wicd-curses instead of wicd-client [04:47] the gui dont need to run for it to connect [04:47] hey what if microsoft adhere open source system..would linux would be done for good? [04:47] sahko: [04:48] sahko: tyvm [04:48] bunbum: hah [04:48] bunbum: if M$ released the source code for windows it would be pwned to hell pretty fast [04:48] you dont even need a "graphical sudo app" if you use the curses interface [04:49] macavity: like it's not already? [04:49] how can i keep the computer from connecting to the computer on startup? [04:49] don't enable "automatically connect" [04:49] macavity, that wouldnt apply to coporative distros like redhat... [04:49] bunbum: they generally ship the same source code as everyone else... [04:50] bunbum: they may have their own mods on stuff, but genreally it is code that has had massive peer review [04:50] besides, there are people that prefer a *nix environment [04:50] i know i do.. [04:50] TYVM ALL!!!! [04:50] you have been very very helpful [04:50] =) [04:50] yw [04:51] and i would *love* to see how MS would handle any attempt to actually cooperate with a community :P [04:51] if you can answer 1 last question, i'll be golden [04:51] complexm1ss: go donate $5 to slackware on store.slackware.com [04:51] how does i copy paste in xterm in openbox??? [04:51] just select the text and it will be copied to a special buffer [04:51] macavity: i r a student with no job, when i get a job, i'll donate more than that =P [04:51] macavity, lol [04:51] paste with middle click or Shift+Insert [04:51] hilight first [04:52] does conky-1.7.2 compile with wlan support ? [04:52] on your computer [04:52] what about if i want to paste it into something like firefox? [04:52] right.. 1337 users all love openbox :P [04:52] openbox uses xml config files [04:52] same thing [04:52] i tried >_< [04:53] middle click worked [04:53] but shift+insert did not [04:53] get a real desktop environment :P [04:53] + doesn't always work, but middle-click usually does [04:53] NEVAR!!! [04:53] you said youself that you loved GIUs :P [04:53] lol hahaha [04:53] i said the exact opposite good sir/mam [04:54] complexm1ss: read the smiley at the end :) [04:54] KDE4 with all the new bells and whistels is awesome [04:54] alisonken1noc: shift+insert works but in firefox... [04:54] macavity: even on my 6+ y/o hp laptop [04:54] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [04:54] awww [04:54] macavity: ^__^ [04:54] alisonken1noc: really? [04:54] well you guys just raped my mind, it belongs to you now [04:55] rotating cube and wobbly windows on my ati mobility chip pavillion ze4610us [04:55] reaped or raped? [04:55] using the radeonhd driver [04:55] macavity: whichever you prefer [04:55] xD [04:55] i tried to run aopera, but it needs libqt-mt.so.3 ... qt included in slackware current don't have multithreading O_o? [04:55] *opera [04:55] udevd: just make a symlink to libqt.so.3 [04:56] udevd: the -mt thing has been depricated for god knows how long... [04:56] macavity: thanks [04:56] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [04:56] macavity: but in opera development teams don't knwo that ;] [04:56] udevd: that lib exists in -current.... [04:56] well buddies was whale of time here hangin out with toguether........... thanks for goood time....... later mates............. [04:56] its because $LAUNDRY_LIST_OF_PROPIETARY_DISTROES still make it [04:57] pprkut: i actually have current and it's not eexist [04:57] pprkut: isnt it a symlink? [04:57] final lol macavity ......... [04:57] god bless you people [04:57] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [04:57] bunbum (n=server@189.82.1.97) left irc: "Leaving" [04:57] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:58] /opt/kde3/lib64/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 > /opt/kde3/lib64/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8 [04:58] s/lib64/lib/ on slack32 of course [04:59] pprkut: except -current defaults to kde5 [04:59] you have kde3-compat from extra/? [04:59] s/5/4/ [04:59] its in extra/kde3-compat [04:59] ah [04:59] macavity: yes [04:59] ok [05:00] udevd: ther is a qt4 version of opera somewhere. I would go with that [05:00] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:00] Action: slackytude|evil wants slack13 [05:01] pprkut++ [05:01] no, slackytude is possessed! :o [05:01] Action: alisonken1noc running rc2 on laptop [05:01] and zfs and samba4 [05:01] slackytude|evil: you can get rc2u7? [05:01] slackytude|evil: been running slackware64-current for a while now with no troubles [05:01] oh, screw hyped zfs.. btrfs is going to kick its nuts anyway [05:01] macavity, rc2u7? [05:02] slackytude|evil: release candidate two update seven [05:02] 7 updates since rc2 declared [05:02] draeath, oh noes! what troubles [05:02] none :P [05:02] nah, I bought slack13, I shall only see the finished version [05:02] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:02] Action: draeath does his happy bug-free dance [05:02] but samba4 asap would be nice! [05:02] ^^ [05:02] (for slackytude|evil ) [05:02] draeath, eh, misread that [05:02] aye [05:03] Id put everythin on a samba4 domain [05:03] muhahaha [05:03] Hermann (n=Hermannn@81.170.156.174) joined ##slackware. [05:03] buuut i'm just a desktop user. the most advanced thing I run on mine, is using xfs instead of a 'normal' fs [05:03] we need PAM in slackware for that.. [05:03] nah [05:03] if we want all the fun stuff, then yes [05:03] like what? [05:04] like.. ssh into other LAN machines and not have to type the password [05:04] pam is running great here :) [05:04] macavity, nss_ldap [05:04] macavity: just copy public key :) [05:04] bash-3.1# find / | grep -i libqt.so [05:04] bash-3.1# [05:05] Hah :/ [05:05] udevd: as pprkut said, install kde3compat or find the Qt4 based Opera [05:06] udevd: it's not that hard. look in ./extras/ on the slackware CD or in the ftp mirror. it's in there. [05:06] thanks, draeath, macavity [05:06] minus the s [05:10] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) joined ##slackware. [05:14] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [05:17] tell me please where is Sendmail.conf of SASL in current64? [05:19] sendmail.conf of sasl, was ist das [05:19] ktos: have a look around /usr/share/sendmail/cf [05:20] a working sendmail configuration with sasl auth enabled? that's the right way to phrase such a question [05:21] no my question is about Sendmail.conf of SASL not about mc files [05:21] ` /usr/lib/SASL2 it is normal [05:21] but in this dir in slack 13 I see only libs [05:21] no config [05:21] thats the usual for cyrus sasl, which is probably the slack64 default [05:22] yes, but where is config? :) [05:22] http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/29787673/the_boy_who_heard_ste with middle click or Shitoo_much/print [05:22] no /usr/lib/sasl/Sendmail.conf? [05:22] hey, how do i clear the copy buffer? [05:22] try find /usr -name Sendmail.conf [05:22] hah [05:23] i've installed files from ftp://ftp.slackware.pl/pub/slackware/slackware-current/extra/kde3-compat/ and guess what? [05:23] bash-3.1# find / | grep -i libqt.so [05:23] bash-3.1# [05:23] complexm1ss (n=complexm@adsl-76-203-173-83.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [05:23] :D [05:25] mancha: no [05:25] but there is /opt/kde3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 [05:25] mancha: already tried [05:25] i need to add it to $PATH [05:25] did you install cyrus-sasl2? [05:25] udevd: no [05:26] mancha: yes [05:26] oh good idea [05:26] i will check in pkg info [05:26] pprkut: no? [05:26] udevd: it's in $PATH automatically [05:26] udevd: maybe you have to relogin [05:27] you said slack64 right? maybe /usr/lib64/sasl2? [05:27] when i've slackware 11, it wasn't in $PATH too ;] [05:27] *had [05:27] mancha: I am not so noob ;) [05:27] ok in /var/log/pkgs/cyrus.. there is no info about conf so I must to create it manually [05:28] heh, ok, you never know here. sorry to have assumed you were more noob than you are [05:28] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:28] udevd: well I tell you it *is* now. well rather /opt/kde3/lib/qt3/bin is [05:28] mancha: not really :P [05:29] udevd: there's no reason to add */lib to $PATH [05:29] ok, i've made symlink... [05:29] and opera works :) [05:30] does anyone know if there an option in bash to complete not caring if the letter is lowercase or uppercase? [05:30] ktos, echo "pwcheck_method:saslauthd [05:30] ktos, echo "pwcheck_method:saslauthd" > /usr/lib64/sasl2/Sendmail.conf :> [05:31] ktos: i think it's coded inside the mail sendmail config [05:31] check this: [05:31] diff /usr/share/sendmail/cf/cf/sendmail-slackware-tls.mc /usr/share/sendmail/cf/cf/sendmail-slackware-tls-sasl.mc [05:31] sahko completion ends _files_ names, and linux filesystems see difference between uppercase and lowercase [05:31] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:31] anyway you could create your own Sendmail.conf file.. [05:31] udevd: ... whatever floats your boat [05:31] Ctrl, he's after the sasl config not the sendmail one [05:32] udevd: thats not the point [05:32] ktos give my suggestion a whirl, no guarantees, i'm 90% asleep [05:32] applications can redefine how the SASL library looks for configuration information. [05:35] axtroz_ (n=axtroz@77.78.10.32) joined ##slackware. [05:36] vrisp (n=vrisp@c-71-238-196-131.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:36] pprkut: so what would you do? :) [05:37] hey people, can enyone tell me where to find polkit-dbus ? I'm trying to build GNOME on slackware without altering the distro's packages. So far I've ran into GConf requesting PolicyKit, after building PolKit, GConf wants polkit-dbus and I can't seem to find it anywhere... Any clue would be much aprretiated :> [05:37] doesn't polkit also need pam? [05:37] udevd: as said before, qt4 opera [05:38] mancha: I've built and installed pam and PolicyKit but I have no idea why polkit-dbus is missing, i got PolicyKit from GIT... [05:39] axtroz_: check /usr/lib/pkgconfig [05:39] or 'pkg-config --list-all | grep -i kit' [05:39] it may also be a ./configure switch [05:39] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [05:40] pkg-config returns polkit-backend-1 and polkit-gobject-1 [05:40] sounds like a path issue [05:40] where's your /polkit-dbus.pc [05:40] never though about the configure switches [05:41] axtroz_: in policyjit sources, try: find -iname "*.pc*" [05:41] there isn't any polkit-dbus.pc [05:41] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@80.12.81.23) joined ##slackware. [05:41] and in the sources there is no polkit-dbus [05:41] might be .pc.in [05:41] although I browsed the GIT repo and saw polkit-dbus/polkit-dbus.h [05:42] but when i clone the repo i have no src/polkit-dbus/ [05:43] any "data" folder ? [05:43] usr/share/data possibly? [05:44] Here's what I'm doing step by step [05:45] axtroz_ did you do the pam stuff individually for each pam'able component (shadow, blah blah...)? becuase i am working on a consolidated pam builder [05:45] CtrlAltCa: you were right, thanks, its built it [05:45] in* [05:45] I meant a "data" folder in the source [05:45] GConf wants PolicyKit so i went googling for it, found it here http://cgit.freedesktop.org/PolicyKit/ and cloned the git://anongit.freedesktop.org/PolicyKit [05:46] when clone that git repo i get these in it [05:46] but yeah mancha you were also right :P [05:46] AUTHORS HACKING NEWS actions/ configure.ac docs/ src/ [05:46] COPYING Makefile.am README autogen.sh* data/ po/ [05:46] ktos, you're such a diplomat :) [05:46] mancha: not really, sendmail guys say me same :) [05:46] I need powcheck... [05:46] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:47] mancha: i haven'd tone anything with pam... dunno how that works, I just built it because PolicyKit wanted it :> [05:47] Nick change: vrisp -> vris [05:47] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.25.237) joined ##slackware. [05:47] Nick change: vris -> vrisp [05:47] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.21.67) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:47] axtroz but how did you build it? [05:47] then it said there's no pam_start() in -lpam, but fixed it with LDFLAGS=/gnome/lib [05:47] axtroz_: also, have a look at http://cgit.freedesktop.org/PolicyKit/diff/?id=2a35667777841f7ea1ef2912963962f04955f9e6 [05:48] PAM ? The usual, ran autogen.sh with --prefix=/gnome [05:48] axtroz_: and I've compiled gconf without policykit iirc [05:48] ok, so you build pam libs but your system is not pam'd, right? [05:49] mancha: guess so, like i've said i don't mess alot with thing i don't quite understand :) [05:49] it need it, i got it for PK :> [05:49] axtroz_: "merge libpolkit and libpolkit-dbus " [05:50] no worries, i was just curious. enjoy. [05:50] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [05:50] conky-1.7.1.1 finds "iw_sockets_open in -liw" but conky-1.7.2 don't (with slack-12.2 and current). I tried with archlinux and it works. Can it be a little bug from slackware ? [05:51] Thom1: gonna try but I think it works [05:51] at least with 64-current [05:51] tux, thanks [05:51] I tried with current and 12.2 vanilla [05:52] tux: so you're saying they merget polkit-dbus with libpolkit ? (lack of english skill can't understand exactly) [05:52] axtroz_: they merged the .pc files [05:53] in this case i can just symlink them ? [05:53] axtroz_: no no no [05:53] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-192-215.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:54] axtroz_: which version of pam do you need/require? [05:54] Thom1: any particular configure switch when building? [05:54] complexmess (n=complexm@adsl-76-203-173-83.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:54] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:55] tux, --enable-lua=no and --enable-wlan=yes [05:55] Thom1: ok [05:55] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-iojzihuwjfmllrfz) left irc: [05:55] tux, it works for me without wlan support [05:56] Thom1: probably, libiw is used for wireless [05:56] Thom1: ok, same error [05:56] tux: i got Linux-PAM-1.1.0 [05:57] axtroz_: how old what you're currently trying to compile? might not be up-to-fdate enoujgh for that pam [05:57] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:57] tux, do you think it could be a slackware bug ? [05:58] bah, think I broke something when building another gtk [05:58] polkit is latest from git, GConf is from GNOME 2.26.3 [05:58] Thom1: don't think so [05:58] oh no you didn't [05:58] tux, because it works with archlinux [05:58] axtroz_: when was that gnome released? [05:58] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [05:59] Thom1: which gcc does arch have ? [05:59] Thom1: solved it [06:00] needs to link with libm (math) [06:00] tux, 4.4.1 [06:00] tux: can't tell exatcly when, but it's the latest on their site, and if they state correctly that GNOME releases come in every 6 months it is youunger than that [06:01] btw what's pam got to do with polkit-dbus ? [06:01] axtroz_: do you know which version it _needs_ [06:02] also, do you need pam only for gconf or for something else? [06:02] i need pam for Polkit, which is needed by GConf :> [06:03] and do you only need polkit for gconf? [06:03] pretty much :> [06:03] you don't need polkit for gconf [06:03] using sbo's slackbuild? [06:04] nope [06:04] using a console and my linux knowledge [06:04] i want to do it myself, so i could get the logic on how to do it without altering a single package in slackware itself [06:05] i did that for KDE4 from svn and now i want to try it with GNOME, just for the challenge [06:05] axtroz_: rule1: when dealing with anything with a name starting with a "g", don't do it yourself [06:05] well, don't [06:05] vrisp (n=vrisp@c-71-238-196-131.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: K-lined [06:05] why not? [06:06] as you see it's just annoying with stupid problems [06:06] complexmess (n=complexm@adsl-76-203-173-83.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [06:06] it's not difficult, just annoying [06:06] grawr, wicd did not work for me =/ [06:06] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-196-227.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:06] complexmess (n=complexm@adsl-76-203-173-83.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [06:07] (the only thing I'm not sure about is that sbo's slackbuild doesn't seem to do anything particular but I had already saw that, still, it works) [06:07] tux: so i see :> I had some major problems with compiling GTK+ too, turned out to be the .la files in /usr/lib [06:07] axtroz_: you know, if Pat dropped gnome, there is a reason... [06:07] moved them to another dir and it compiled flawlessly [06:07] axtroz_: got that too last saturday ;) [06:08] i know :> i'm no GNOME person ( i kinda dislike it ) but i'm up for the challenge just to see if I can do it :> [06:08] thanks for everything :) [06:09] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [06:11] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-209-88.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:12] The-Croupier (i=c36168c8@gateway/web/freenode/x-qoguxlxkkpfpwojr) joined ##slackware. [06:13] greetings [06:15] axtroz_: really, you're only going to bang your head against your desk, I don't often say that but it's a waste of time, if you want to learn, there are better things to learn than how to deal with gnome... [06:15] yoyo The-Croupier [06:16] Nick change: tux -> Camarade_Tux [06:16] since the other machine will be down for a long time [06:17] tux: well, for me it goes along the path, since now I must learn what is PAM and how it works, and the same for PolicyKit, stuff that aren't exactly just a part of GNOME, though needed by it :) [06:17] you could maybe learn about the kernel instead [06:18] started once... ended up with a headbang because my laptop's WMI is not regognized/supported :) [06:18] maybe later in the future [06:18] Thom1: sorry, I reported the bug on #conky, someone should pick it up and fix it [06:18] Thom1: meanwhile, right before the ./configure line in the slackbuild, just add 'LDFLAGS="-lm" \' [06:18] I just have started this, i'll push up and see where i can go [06:19] you might have more luck trying a git versions of policykit and/or pam then [06:20] btw, got polkit-dbus fixed ;) got an older version of PolicyKit, got the idea from you when mentioning the needed pam version :> thanks again ^ [06:20] he [06:21] anyone got any tips on sorting an absurdly messy and large library of audio files... amarok just 'aint up to it =S [06:21] theblackbox: how many files? [06:22] ~30k or more [06:22] it should handle them [06:22] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) left irc: "adios amigos" [06:22] it doesn't, wont load them as a playlist [06:22] which amarok btw, 1 or 2 [06:22] 2 [06:23] theblackbox : itunes. [06:23] maybe need to optimise sqlite? [06:23] ugh [06:23] might be something like a .cue file it doesn't handle, or a .jpg or something like that, are you sure you're only trying to add _music_ files [06:23] ananke: lol :) [06:23] you could try to vacuum that db [06:23] Action: theblackbox has a deep seated loathing of fruit based products [06:23] theblackbox: aren't they using mysql? [06:23] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left ##slackware. [06:24] pretty sure it's sqlite (might be mysql for latest though?) [06:24] theblackbox : loathing products for the sake of loathing is silly. itunes would actually work with such large library [06:24] my spoon isn't hard enough for that watermelon ='( [06:24] amarok2 is using embedded mysql (libmysqld) [06:24] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:24] ananke: with 100% cpu usage? >< [06:24] Action: Camarade_Tux uses zsh to manage his music library [06:24] ahh, thought it was sqlite [06:24] 160GB btw [06:24] Camarade_Tux : of course not. why would you even say something like that? [06:24] Camarade_Tux, ther is no spoon? [06:25] ananke, I wouldn't have expected it to, might give it a try [06:25] ananke: I remember itunes 3 or 4 years ago, on a friend's computer, it would take 30% cpu usage to just play a music file while I was with foobar and a much bigger library and it was taking <3% [06:25] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) joined ##slackware. [06:25] so it's bashing but with reasons [06:25] initial scan would take some time and cpu, but after that it wouldn't [06:26] no no, it was only playing :) [06:26] Camarade_Tux : right. and you're comparing to [06:26] ananke: his was more powerful :D [06:26] Camarade_Tux: are you sick today? you look green. you're usually orange [06:27] seriously folks, you have to stop with the bashing drivel. get over your silly prejudices, and start looking at things objectively [06:27] sahko: maybe but with the melon I'm currently eating, I should turn orange again [06:27] not watermelon, melon! [06:27] Camarade_Tux: what melon? [06:28] ananke: as I said, it's bashing but partly founded [06:28] The-Croupier: the flame retardant kind -_- [06:28] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melon :) [06:28] Camarade_Tux : it's still bashing [06:28] Camarade_Tux: lol [06:29] ananke: yeah, sure :) [06:29] ananke, just for you "arousing" my objectivity, I'm gonna give up my long held boycott for this day only and ..... install iTunes [06:29] don't stop boycotting apple! [06:29] theblackbox : try it out, see if it works for you. [06:29] so long as there is a slackbuild ;) [06:30] ohhh, unlucky =P [06:31] ^ [06:31] ^^ [06:31] yeah, there wouldn't be one, since it's windows/macosx only [06:32] ;) I'm kidding - I just haven't fired up crossover in a while [06:32] on windows you'd be *much* happier with foobar2k [06:32] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [06:33] the disk is here on my linux box though [06:33] PenPerk (n=carlj@71.246.216.235) joined ##slackware. [06:33] I've been having a flirt with SongBird on my Win lappy recently, not too shabby [06:34] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220.136.228.166) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [06:34] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl11-118-18.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:34] isn't songbird on its own heavier than vista? [06:35] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-209-88.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Nick collision from services. [06:35] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [06:35] (must sound like I'm bashing everything) [06:35] lol, very probably, it is a bit of a resource hog, but I found it a little faster on the uptake (archiving and searching of media) than winamp.... not exactly a honourable benchmark though [06:35] I've found only a few ok music apps: foobar2k on windows and mplayer on linux [06:36] theblackbox: again, try foobar2k \o/ [06:36] mplayer is hardly a 'music app'. it's simply a player [06:36] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [06:36] ananke: right, mplayer+*sh ;) [06:36] but it's all I want, play music! [06:36] yeah, I never got using mPlayer for music - square peg round hole =P [06:37] I'll look into this foobar2K you speak of [06:37] :) [06:37] they made 0.9 heavier than 0.8 but probably cleaner too (it was a bit anarchic before) [06:38] hmmm, bad .conkyrc [06:38] or it's a conky bug [06:39] nope, mine :) [06:41] andrew_50 (n=andrew@unaffiliated/andrew50/x-1857826) joined ##slackware. [06:41] andrew_50 (n=andrew@unaffiliated/andrew50/x-1857826) left ##slackware. [06:44] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl6-204-49.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:44] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:45] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [06:45] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-118-18.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Nick collision from services. 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[07:28] linux route command doesn't seem to have a flush option [07:29] juice2 (i=juice@ice-cold.net) left irc: "later" [07:30] '# ip route flush' maybe? [07:30] "man ip" [07:33] speaking of routes....is there anything that can remotely, or anything restart the router? [07:33] did not understand the question [07:33] oh thats nice ip route flush all flushed all routes even routes to local subnets... [07:34] there is this stupid windows admin we have at work, and had this great idea of putting the router on the cieling, one of those fake crappy cielings, i need to restart it but i cannot get to it... :( [07:34] what a jackass [07:34] nargon: that is another story [07:34] you should find another job or get him fired [07:35] i could not tolerate that... [07:35] that doesnt solve the restarting the router part [07:35] what kind of router ? [07:35] The-Croupier: stop being lazy and get a ladder [07:36] yeah just think.. you could move all of your equipment out of the rack and into the drop ceiling... [07:36] frullet: not possible, 1.its too high, 2.theres people in the room, 3.need to get part of that fake cieling off [07:36] what kind of router ? [07:36] nargon: lol [07:36] nargon: what do you mean? what is the make? [07:36] yeah what is it? [07:36] a cisco ? [07:36] cisco?! i wish [07:37] fritzbox for wlan [07:38] never heard of it.. obviously you need to ssh/telnet/http into the box and initiate whatever reload/reboot function is available [07:39] me neither, till i got here [07:39] maybee I can wait outside of your office and beat the windows admin guy up when he comes into the parking lot... [07:40] nargon: he doesnt drive, he goes out with the boss [07:40] ;) [07:40] hes the kind of licking guy [07:40] sounds like an ass licker... [07:40] ass licking windows admin [07:40] nargon (i=mike@217.194.139.22) left ##slackware. [07:41] nargon, as you can see... its wonderful [07:43] macro (n=macro@bas2-montreal19-1178033029.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:44] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [07:44] so the only option is ssh/telnet/http reboot :( i see thank you [07:46] stunix (i=1000@80.239.36.187) left irc: ""Remember that death is not the end but only a transition." -- Dream Theater, song "Fatal Tragedy"." [07:46] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. 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[07:58] server room [07:58] alisonken1noc: ohh that one with the airconditioning [07:58] yep [07:59] i remember.. ;) trying to remember anything to get my memory a little better ;) imagine that i remembered your problem [07:59] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.133.252.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [07:59] damn, i have to restart that router now... ;) just remembered that as well ;) see you in a bit [07:59] now if I can just remember ... something [07:59] :) [07:59] alisonken1noc: lol [08:00] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:02] i noticed (after buying a new sata disk) that the limiting jumper is install on my old sata disk. i installed the new disk without the junper, all seems fine, i looked up the controler chipsets that can not handle 3gbit and mine is not on the list. am i taking a chance leaving the jumper off my new 1000 GB disk? [08:03] stunix (i=1000@80.239.36.187) joined ##slackware. [08:06] stunix (i=1000@80.239.36.187) left irc: Client Quit [08:08] t0f: in my experience, the board will have trouble even recognizing the drive if it doesn't support 3gbit, so I think it's safe to try. [08:08] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@68-25-227-63.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [08:08] ok thanks [08:09] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:09] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-192-215.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:09] geez, do sata fly compared to pata [08:10] stunix (i=1000@80.239.36.187) joined ##slackware. [08:10] if it works it works, if it doesnt it doesnt. if stuff breaks you can definitely warranty it because it shouldnt break. [08:10] I know I've shipped plenty back to seagate :) [08:11] the guy at Best Buy had no idea what 'pata' was, so i said "EIDE", he said "Oh! ok" [08:11] took me a couple of tries to figure that one out as well [08:12] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [08:12] alisonken1noc: mine is Seagate as well. i'm given up on WD [08:12] i've* [08:13] well, I end up shipping several boxes this last couple of months since we have a large selection to choose from [08:13] seagate sucks [08:13] seagate \o/ [08:13] spook: thy DO have a 5 year warrenty [08:13] wd are okay... but only certain lines are okay. [08:14] samsung are pretty damn good in my experience [08:14] t0f: it could have a million years warranty, but it if bricks until you firmware update it or even afterwards... [08:15] i'll keep my eye open for samsungs, in the future [08:16] have you ever bought from "newegg.com"? they ship a plain drive, not in the original packaging [08:16] WD caviar green II, the like, newest 1TB and any 1.5TB models are good too [08:16] nup, i buy from my mate who gets stuff wholesale [08:17] lucky you spook [08:17] t0f: You mean OEM drives? [08:17] LF4: not sure what you mean [08:17] Retail and OEM those are the two ways you can get HDD's from Newegg.com [08:18] i got a dvd-dl burner from newegg and all i got was a drive and a cd [08:19] good deal... $25 [08:19] You probably ordered OEM. Check your order history and it should tell you. [08:19] i'll have a look [08:19] axtroz_ (n=axtroz@77.78.10.32) left irc: "Leaving" [08:21] OEM HDD's from newegg = HDD in staticbag with bubblewrap around it put in the box for shipping. lol :) [08:21] that's it! [08:22] man ddr memory was so expensive at Best Buy. $74 for a gig stick [08:22] i'll shop online, or at the dump, hehehehehe [08:22] lol thats the super power ddr ram :P [08:23] nst (i=8f360a72@gateway/web/freenode/x-rwuvaethhnnhklje) joined ##slackware. [08:23] i can live with 1.5 gb of ram for the moment [08:24] Action: spook hugs his 4gb of OCZ ram [08:24] wait no [08:24] its team dark [08:24] 64-bit slack? [08:25] i thought that a 32-bit os can address only 3 gb or so [08:25] mirin (n=finnix@122-124-137-187.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [08:25] All my systems have 4GB well besides the PXE server which has 448MB SDIMM lol [08:25] thats one of the 3 OSes on this machine yes [08:26] Nick change: t0f -> tof [08:26] a 32 bit system can address exactly 4gb. minus address space for things like graphics card memory [08:26] ic [08:26] and each process can only be allocated 2gb [08:26] mdesign (i=asdasdas@189.83.24.181) joined ##slackware. [08:26] Nick change: tof -> Guest39753 [08:26] hey guys [08:26] in instalation of slackware, you can choice gnome? [08:27] geez [08:27] Nick change: Guest39753 -> t0f [08:27] mdesign: not in the official packages no. [08:27] spook =/ [08:27] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:27] mdesign: projects like gnome slackbuild and dropline gnome exist though to provide gnome. [08:27] mdesign: You need to install it as a seporate package. [08:27] but they are UNOFFICIAL, and WE DO NOT SUPPORT THEM HERE. [08:27] oh, ok... i do this. [08:27] mirin (n=finnix@122-124-137-187.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "leaving" [08:27] what is recommended for gnome there days? [08:28] these [08:28] what? [08:28] dropline is a bit ugly because it replaces some stuff like glibc [08:28] GSB (gnome slack build) is probally one of the better ones. [08:28] i miss gnome too, but i'll live (: [08:28] thx guys [08:29] i hate gnome. [08:29] Fluxbox/openbox or XFce :) [08:29] i never ran it as a wm, i just liked some of the programs [08:29] t0f: go have a look at the code behind gnome. [08:30] spook: i know... rest in pieces [08:30] hehehehe [08:30] when I install the package gnome of kde (or other) will disappear, or will be the two? [08:30] nst (i=8f360a72@gateway/web/freenode/x-rwuvaethhnnhklje) left ##slackware. [08:30] mdesign: There will be two, you can select from. [08:31] mdesign: they are seperate packages. [08:31] you'll have more than two choices. [08:31] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:31] haha true there will be more then two. [08:32] mdesign, slackware does only what you want, it doesn't do anything automatically, that's why we love slackware, so if you don't remove kde, kde will not be removed :) [08:32] very simple [08:32] slackware is like C [08:32] slack IS wonderful [08:33] if you tell it to uninstall glibc, it will, just like in C if you try to malloc something weird, it will. [08:33] i've been running it totally since 1999 [08:33] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:33] only about 4 years for me. [08:33] i should have a party and sent a gift to Pat [08:33] t0f: 2.2.17 kernel was my first slackware install [08:34] 2001 for me [08:34] but I left slackware one year [08:34] since then i've never gone back :) [08:34] only to know something else, but slack is the best [08:35] truely i first checked it out in 1993. and i thought SCO-unix was better....tof ducks [08:35] man, this sucks [08:35] it just sucks so much [08:35] slackytude|evil: ?? [08:35] lol whats wrong slackytude|evil ? [08:35] work -_- [08:35] haha i figured that much. [08:36] I wanna go home now [08:36] the crazy thing is Ive got so much todo I hardly get anything finished [08:36] me too [08:36] just when Im about to get something done, something else pop's up [08:36] well except that last statment lol [08:36] slackytude|evil: setup a bot to debug the code you're working on, and leave? [08:37] slackytude|evil: it sucks when you cant get work done because you're only ever putting out fires [08:37] spook: working with windows again? [08:37] mdesign (i=asdasdas@189.83.24.181) left irc: [08:38] me? yeah. [08:38] working in win is easy. just blame M$ [08:38] commiserations [08:38] farchanjo (n=Brazil@g3.alog.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:38] next project is rebuild a slamd64 server with slackware64, running winxp in a kvm [08:39] I've got my sis-in-law laptop again. second time in 5 months [08:39] xp running a contacts database thingy. [08:39] spook: kvm? [08:39] kernel virtualisation [08:39] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:39] ahh ok didn't know what the k was lol [08:40] its really awesome. [08:40] lol http://wikistics.falsikon.de/2008/wikimedia/commons/ [08:41] "special:search" good [08:42] 5th: Category: Shaved genitalia (female) [08:42] and 1st non-special page [08:43] useless: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ejaculation_2.JPG ^^ [08:43] (sfw) [08:43] yep [08:44] Camarade_Tux: SourceFriend of Mine [08:44] :D [08:44] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [08:44] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: "Leaving" [08:45] hmmm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solstice_Cyclists ... [08:49] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:49] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:49] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:56] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. 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[09:35] morning [09:36] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) left irc: "leaving" [09:36] hiptobecubic: probally becasue its stable. [09:37] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [09:37] lvsan (n=Lucas@189.111.122.124) joined ##slackware. [09:38] Nick change: shik4nt4z4 -> Guest53062 [09:38] Nick change: Camarade_Tux -> Evil_Tux [09:40] ttyX (n=ttyX@59.178.94.210) left ##slackware. [09:40] macro (n=macro@bas5-montreal19-1279569426.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [09:40] Hello, I recently installed slackware 12.2. When I start up KDE the kconf_update process will run up 100% CPU usage and KDE sits at the start up screen, I will have to manualy jump to another virtual console and kill kconf_udpate process [09:41] anyone familiar with this ? [09:41] im running kde 3.5 or what ever came with 12.2 slack [09:41] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "Hewlett Packard makes terrible consumer laptops." [09:42] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:44] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [09:44] fiyawerx (i=HydraIRC@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:44] macro: that happened to me when i upgraded kde by mistake...:( and i deleted the default user, without any more configuration... but after creating a new user, everything was ok .. [09:44] i dont know if that helps, maybe that is not even the case here [09:45] so i found a 64bit skype for ubuntu [09:45] a package [09:45] the-croupier: I deleted the .kde dir in my homedir, I tried both with my user account and root and I get the same thing [09:45] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [09:45] i'm considering trying to explodepkg it and then make a slackware package out of it (like what they do with the openoffice rpms) [09:47] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.15) joined ##slackware. [09:47] macro: would it be a choice, reinstalling kde? or is it too much trouble? [09:47] did you check any error logs, or anything? [09:48] nothing in logs [09:48] but when I run a strace I get this [09:49] macro, try 12.1 :x [09:49] macro: careful, if its too long paste in in a pastebin [09:49] hiya missyjane [09:49] hiya The-Croupier :) [09:49] clone(child_stack=0, flags=CLONE_PARENT_SETTID|SIGCHLD, parent_tidptr=0xbfd68a94) = 3510 [09:49] and then is sits there [09:50] macro: what did you do before this happened? did you install, remove anything? [09:50] the-croupier: rather then reinstalling kde, where can I find pkg of kde 4.2. that will install on slack 12.2 ? [09:50] the-croupier: I did a full install on the laptop [09:50] macro: there are no official packages for that. [09:50] digifor (n=pjharper@122.252.178.224) joined ##slackware. [09:50] macro: that is wierd, i had the same before getting current, but things work fine in both..and ive done lots of stupid things [09:50] the-croupier: I first start X and it hung on the start up screen, I wasnt sure why, so I just started using wmaker, eventually I checked the processes and found it was kconf_update eating up all resources preventing kde to finish starting up [09:51] macro, thats precisely what happened to me too, hanging on startup screen and i tried 12.2 too [09:51] BP: so I guess I just just reinstall currnet ? [09:51] Which letter is dm-crypt normally found on a slackware cd? [09:51] darkwurm (n=dw@75-93-1-171.eug.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: SendQ exceeded [09:51] digifor, d :D [09:51] thanks missyjane [09:52] missyjane: have you found any solution ? I feel I have to rewrite the x start script to include a sleep killall kconf_update [09:52] darkwurm (n=dw@75-93-1-171.eug.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [09:52] macro: BP{k} didnt say reinstall current, he just said there are NO official pkgs for that kde [09:53] macro: i dont remember which version of kde current is using, or if it works with 12.2 but you can try in the pkg directory for one [09:53] macro, nope i just stayed with 12.1 [09:53] The-Croupier: current is using 4.2.4. [09:54] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:54] and using packages from -current with 12.2 or other is *strongly* not recommended [09:54] missyjane: what cpu you running on the install where kconf_update goes up to 100% ? [09:54] macro: so read above .. there is your answer [09:55] BP{k}: thank you [09:55] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:55] about the only stuff you can mix are binary packages. examples: firefox, openoffice, skype [09:55] macro, i didnt get the 100% but it did freeze on me at the login stage, and im on a quad core [09:55] Is dm-crypt the actual name of the slackware package? [09:55] the-croupier: I read somewhere where recently current packages have been updated and will cause dependency problems with 12.2 [09:56] macro: sounds like it, thats why BP{k} said *strongly* not recommended [09:56] missyjane: some amd 64bit x2 athlon on a laptop here, I read that some AMD 64 cpu's cause this problem, maybe it was just some more internet mumbo jumbo [09:56] digifor: no it isn't .. what you are looking for is cryptsetup. Which is part of the a/ series. [09:56] FYI I am trying to install with dm-crypt. I got the 12.2 iso from Linux Format Magazine. [09:57] lol using the cds magazine give.. i gotta try that [09:57] digifor: why not download it from the official site? [09:57] or any of the 1000 more options there exist [09:57] magazine?! [09:57] I am in Cambodia and it takes weeks to download a dvd from here on our bandwidth [09:57] The-Croupier: because it's faster if a magazine provides you with a cd. And it is *one* of the options that exist. [09:58] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:58] it is there in a [09:58] digifor: on the cd you should find the following text document: ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2/README_CRYPT.TXT [09:58] BP{k}, I have it open in front of me [09:58] BP{k}: sorry, ive never done that, especially here in greece, there are lots of other options configured for you , that you usually do not want [09:59] But it appears that "modprobe dm-crypt" doesn't work [09:59] The-Croupier: just because those options are available to /you/ doesn't mean those are available to others .. it really does not matter how someone get slackware . does it now? [09:59] anyway, thats all folks, ill see you tomorrow.... its been a pleasure and a priviledge talking to you again ;) [10:00] digifor: you have booted from the cd? [10:00] BP{k}: no, you are right. [10:00] wish you all the best digifor [10:00] have a nice day slacker [10:00] s [10:00] i just did md5sum successfully and now... to burn [10:00] The-Croupier (i=c36168c8@gateway/web/freenode/x-qoguxlxkkpfpwojr) left irc: "Page closed" [10:01] is qemu any good at emulating other distros? or vbox and vmware are better at that? [10:02] sahko: I think they are both pretty good .. although I would say to prefer qemu and vbox over vmware. [10:02] BP{k}, is it really? [10:02] i've been using qemu and i think it's pretty great [10:02] missyjane: is really it really, what? [10:02] BP{k}: its also easier to install. i havent tried qemu and virtualisation in general since 2007 or so [10:02] qemu-kvm, mind you. Regular qemu was slow as balls [10:02] qemu doesnt emulate your environment [10:02] I should be able to "install" cryptsetup into the installer [10:03] sahko: you'll need qemu if you go non-x86/x86_64 [10:03] hiptobecubic: yeah i know. last i tried it, it was without kqemu [10:03] I've started something in irssi that is basically: "/exec -o 'while true; do ...; done" [10:03] how can I stop it now? :D [10:03] digifor: cryptsetup should already be part of the installer. [10:03] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:03] sahko, the kvm distribution of qemu is brilliant [10:03] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@80.12.81.23) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [10:03] pprkut: good point. thanks for that. i guess the only choice is qemu [10:04] sahko, i made a slackbuild for it... it's lying around here somewhere [10:04] so i just install kqemu and qemu, right? [10:04] You're right...my mistake. [10:04] seems to be /exec -close :) [10:04] or not... [10:04] sahko, yes. or alternatively qemu-kvm [10:04] sahko: I think kqemu has the same restrictions as vbox, but am not sure [10:04] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [10:05] qemu-kvm doesnt appear to be present @ SBo [10:05] sahko, just a second... [10:05] unless its "kvm" [10:05] sahko, it isn't. [10:06] sahko, try this. I'm using it as we speak. http://john.bitsurge.net/public/qemu-kvm.tar.bz2 [10:06] There's one virtualization company for me..it starts with a v and rhymes with tmware [10:06] cryptsetup -s 256 -y luksFormat /dev/sda4 (What is wrong with the last command) [10:07] straterra: even if you dont want to deal with windows? [10:07] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:07] What does Windows have to do with anything? [10:07] hiptobecubic: does qemu-kvm do arm on x86? [10:07] also vmware uses qt IIRC. and i aint installing that :P [10:07] uhm.. [10:07] vmware comes with everything it needs.. [10:08] vmware server uses your web browser...but I use workstation/esx/esxi [10:08] straterra: but it didnt run on slackware last i heard, am i wrong? [10:08] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:08] Ignore me. it was a typo [10:08] server and workstation both run on Slackware [10:08] pprkut, it does whatever qemu does. Just run it without -enable-kvm and without the kvm modules loaded if you have some problem with it. [10:09] straterra: are there scripts for those anywhere? [10:09] pprkut, at least, that's what i found. I haven't tried to emulate anything but x86* [10:09] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:09] sahko: scripts for what? [10:09] They have shell-script installers [10:09] hm whats wrong with burning slackware with k3b? [10:09] Nick change: adupuis -> Arno[Slack]`Work [10:09] Nothing [10:10] hiptobecubic: umm, wouldn't qemu-kvm without -enable-kvm be the same as just qemu? [10:10] oh hm i never asked but why was i told to use cdrecord instead of k3b then? [10:10] pprkut, yes, but if kvm and kqemu can't do whatever you're trying to do, what choice do you have? [10:10] what do you think k3b uses? [10:10] I don't know..ask the person who told you that. [10:11] k3b is useful only if you wanna compile data discs IMO. and every media burning gui IMO. [10:11] hiptobecubic: yes, sure. My point is one doesn't have to bother installing qemu-kvm if he isn't able to use kvm anyway [10:12] pprkut, I suppose sure. But it isn't any slower or more complicated than just installing regular qemu, and if it he _can_ use it (for a winxp machine, let's say) it makes an ungodly amount of difference. [10:13] ok so whats wrong with this command? cdrecord speed=1 fs=32m -doa -v slackware-current-18_Aug_2009-DVD.iso /dev/sr1 [10:13] I was ready to throw virtualization in the trash, and then kvm came along and all was well again. [10:13] odd [10:13] speed=1? [10:14] You like waiting a long time [10:14] lol well i think.. it was macavity who told me the slower the better :X [10:14] hiptobecubic: ok, agreed [10:15] the slower, the less likely hood of a burn error due to speed [10:15] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:15] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:16] alien helped me convert the .deb to .tgz and install but even though /usr/bin/skype exists, when i run it i get "No such file or directory" [10:16] A slower burn doesn't make it a better burn [10:17] so what do you suggest strat? [10:17] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [10:18] just use k3b [10:18] alright [10:19] what speed would you suggest? [10:19] fastest [10:19] if it has an issue, reburn it at like half that speed [10:19] hiptobecubic: and this doesnt need kvm or qemu, or kqemu? [10:20] sahko, it IS qemu. with some patches from kvm. And also the kvm modules for amd and intel. [10:20] but not kvm [10:21] it is all you need. [10:21] in fact, i believe installing qemu, kqemu, or plain kvm will break qemu-kvm [10:21] ok thanks, since you make it sound so nice, im gonna try it :) [10:22] look at that slackbuild first, i only tested it on my laptop (x86_64) [10:22] also it's expecting a tarball named "qemu-kvm-0.11.0-rc1.tar.gz" to be present [10:23] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) joined ##slackware. [10:23] ok brb [10:23] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [10:24] crudo (n=0xdead@189.81.163.204) joined ##slackware. [10:26] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [10:27] hm strange, i was gonna go but it says "Written data in track 1 differs from original." should i be worried? [10:28] err what? [10:28] error from k3b [10:28] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:29] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:29] Usuario392 (n=Usuario3@76.73.16.26) joined ##slackware. [10:30] after you burned? [10:30] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [10:31] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:31] peacenik (n=cyberian@142.217.76.23) joined ##slackware. [10:32] yup [10:32] this is from the verify write option [10:32] well..see if it boots [10:32] you could get the md5sum and compare too [10:34] LifeForce4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [10:34] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:34] LF4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:35] hm im not sure how to md5sum a mounted cd i already did a md5sum on the iso and that was fine [10:36] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.97) joined ##slackware. [10:37] hm ok [10:37] brb [10:37] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [10:38] when will be 13.0rc3 for? [10:38] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:38] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [10:38] maxote: 1) when it is ready ... or more likely "if it ever comes, when it is ready" [10:38] when its ready [10:38] maxote: uh..what? [10:38] damn second time today [10:39] and when will be it ready? [10:39] maxote: slackware doesn't have a fixed date release schedule. If you really want to know what is happening, watch the {,64}-current ChangeLog. [10:39] maxote: ffs WHEN ITS READY [10:40] ip-route (n=iproute@200.172.83.136) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:40] BP{k}, i think you said the same answer near 3 months ago. [10:40] maxote: yes and your point is exactly what? [10:41] it's retarding a lot [10:41] no. you are the one asking a retarded question. :) [10:42] lol [10:42] maxote: http://slackware.com/faq/do_faq.php?faq=general#5 <-- That is the *official* slackware.com answer. [10:43] Nick change: LifeForce4 -> LF4 [10:43] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:43] which actually translates to "When it's ready" which probably is "Somewhere Real Soon Now(tm)" [10:43] Action: LF4 cant wait! \o/ haha [10:44] Action: BP{k} goes back to coffee. [10:44] when is it ready? :p [10:44] Evil_Tux: saturday. [10:44] \o/ [10:45] BP{k}: will you buy me beer if it's not released on saturday? :D [10:45] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:45] Evil_Tux: no. But you can buy me beer if it is. ;) [10:45] I'd say ok ;p [10:45] BP{k}, don't speculate the date, xD [10:45] samuelig (n=samuelig@94.pool85-57-129.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [10:45] maxote: I never said exactly _which_ Saturday. :P [10:46] odds are still 1:7 ;) [10:46] or 6, dunno [10:46] Evil_Tux: besides I never *buy* beer ;) [10:47] :o [10:48] how do you manage to get people to buy you beer? [10:48] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [10:48] (I can't imagine you don't drink any) [10:49] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [10:49] i don't drink beer [10:49] Evil_Tux: simple .. I tell kethry to go the shops and buy me some ;) [10:50] beer? [10:50] \o/ [10:50] kethry: looking for housing in France? :D [10:53] yes [10:53] i can brew beer :D [10:54] how many liters per day? :D [10:54] crudo (n=0xdead@189.81.163.204) left ##slackware. [10:54] 24 gallons a day [10:55] deal :D [10:55] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:56] it takes like 2-3 months to ferment if you want it really good [10:56] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [10:56] john_dee (n=id@93-81-141-157.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:58] Usuario392: Ah, a fellow brewer. [10:58] lvsan (n=Lucas@189.111.122.124) left irc: "lunch time" [10:59] Usuario392: I've never let mine sit for more than 28 days. [10:59] For the most part. [10:59] This last one has been sitting for quite some time because i haven't had anytime to bottle it. [10:59] it depends on the type and whether you do all grain or malt extract [10:59] Usuario392: http://learnix.net/2009/07/red-ale/ [10:59] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-nximwccwljpclrgs) left irc: [11:00] I used to still my own moonshine.. man that shit was harsh.. [11:00] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [11:00] hahaha [11:01] Action: init[1] waves o/ to slackers [11:01] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.97) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:01] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.97) joined ##slackware. [11:02] yum beeeeeeeeer [11:02] yum? berk [11:02] Action: Evil_Tux hide [11:02] bnhashmi: yea and so is Jack Daniels til you let it sit for awhile. [11:02] s [11:03] http://www.osnews.com/story/22047/Linux_User-Friendliness [11:04] nah :P [11:04] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-mzcwovdpklfhivlv) joined ##slackware. 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[11:28] Nick change: jumperbo1 -> jumperboy [11:31] Usuario392 (n=Usuario3@76.73.16.26) left irc: "CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)" [11:31] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [11:34] Thom1 (n=thom1@10.102.87-79.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0-rc3" [11:35] Nick change: Guest53062 -> shik4nt4z4 [11:35] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-82-25-181-92.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:36] credo (n=36th@80.233.147.119) joined ##slackware. [11:37] ShamwowVideoProf (n=neo1993@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:37] I can't compile cloog-ppl in slackware [11:38] digifor (n=pjharper@122.252.178.224) left irc: "Leaving" [11:39] I get compiling errors in source/block.c [11:40] digifor (n=pjharper@122.252.178.224) joined ##slackware. [11:41] anyone here? [11:41] give more details [11:41] What reason would lilo not be writing to the MBR? [11:42] i hate lilo. :P i installed grub2 :) [11:42] anyways. Evil_Tux how do i copy a compiling error to a file? [11:42] so i can pastebin it? [11:42] of course you can [11:42] ! [11:43] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:43] actually you *have* to : [11:43] I'm following this. The only difference is my root partition is /dev/sda4 /boot is /dev/sda3 [11:43] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [11:43] windows is sda1 and opensolaris is sda2 [11:43] who uses windows nowadays? lol :P [11:44] well they let sun in. and once you raise them you can in a breeze [11:44] I have to for work [11:44] For fun I use anything else [11:44] ok seriously.... i did make > error.txt and it didnt work [11:44] and im in command line [11:45] Action: ShamwowVideoProf hates that stupid X crap [11:45] no no [11:45] make &> error.txt [11:46] nevermind i used gmp [11:46] gpm i mean] [11:46] and if you're in X, just select and paste with middle-click [11:46] same [11:46] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:46] :) [11:46] ah i love gpm. and i love how slack asks you if you want it loaded at boot time. so handy! [11:46] # mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.27.7-smp -m ext3 -f ext3 -r cryptroot -C /dev/sda4 (Anything wrong in that line? [11:49] pastebin.ca is down? wot? [11:49] grazymax (n=grazymax@host155-55-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:50] ShamwowVideoProf, if it gets desparate http://paste.ubuntu.com [11:51] ShamwowVideoProf: pastebin.slackadelic.org [11:51] ShamwowVideoProf: pastebin.ca is unreliable [11:51] (I mean for some people) [11:51] More apropriate [11:51] does that have a file uploader? [11:51] just copy/paste if you have gpm [11:51] or wgetpaste [11:51] but I have to go (well soon) [11:52] Was there anything wrong in the mkinitrd line I posted? [11:53] :( i cant figure it out [11:53] gpm wont copy it for long [11:53] lilo.conf says boot = /dev/sda Which should be the MBR. [11:53] digifor: try grub [11:54] i use it for coreboot [11:54] It is not on the cd's I have with me [11:54] oh your on live cd [11:54] lol [11:55] No. It is a remix from Linux Format with two cd's . Installs an XFCE desktop. No /extras [11:56] I can't understand why it is not writing to the MBR [11:56] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-86-26-241-199.brhm.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [11:56] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:57] yay i got it [11:57] I've done the mkinitrd. Edited the lilo.conf as per http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware/README_CRYPT.TXT [11:57] http://neo-technical.wikispaces.com/file/view/error.txt [11:58] I've tried "lilo" and "lilo -M /dev/sda" [11:58] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) joined ##slackware. [11:58] try this on the cd [11:58] dd if=the lilo thingy of=/dev/sda [11:58] do it manually [11:58] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:59] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [11:59] ok i have problems with the install... i cant even boot to "login:" [12:00] dd if = /etc/lilo.conf of = /dev/sda? [12:00] Or does that look really dumb? [12:00] Evil_Tux you still here? [12:01] I was just looking up an acronym with wtf and noted that it does not work in root - is this an anomaly on my computer or is it by design? [12:01] ShamwowVideoProf: yeah but not for long [12:01] http://neo-technical.wikispaces.com/file/view/error.txt [12:01] ShamwowVideoProf, was that what you ment with dd? [12:01] digifor that looks dumb [12:02] you know like with grub-install its like.... grub-install /dev/sda? [12:02] thanks :( [12:02] and lilo its like -M /dev/sda or whatever? [12:02] get all the files that happens when lilo installs to the MBR THENNNN.... do the dd command with all those files [12:03] or just download grub onto the cds and install it [12:03] ShamwowVideoProf: all amounts to: source/../include/cloog/cloog.h:47:30: error: polylib/missing.h: No such file or directory [12:03] svn co svn://svn.sv.gnu.org/svn/trunk/grub2 something like that [12:03] re [12:03] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:03] ShamwowVideoProf: http://icps.u-strasbg.fr/polylib/ [12:03] Nick change: ElmerJFudd -> Quiznos [12:03] oh i need polylib! [12:03] does anyone want to help me solve it? :| [12:03] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:03] ^^ [12:03] Action: Evil_Tux away [12:03] THANK YOU!! :) [12:03] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:04] ^^ [12:04] yes i got it [12:04] thank you so so much [12:05] what is the status of slackbook 3.0? [12:05] http://www.surrealgirl.com/borrowed.jpg [12:06] panzer: in progress afaik [12:06] ShamwowVideoProf (n=neo1993@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:06] ok [12:07] iirc you'd have to ask alan [12:08] Evil_Tux: actually.. yes. esp if its the right price. :D [12:08] Evil_Tux: thanks. [12:08] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [12:08] kethry: hehe :P [12:09] Evil_Tux: and in the right area of course [12:09] he, I could, I live in Paris ;) [12:09] Action: Evil_Tux really away now [12:10] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:10] lilo -M /dev/sda did not work [12:10] see why i wont dare install current? :| [12:10] ^^ [12:10] damn comcast owns calif? [12:11] Urchlay (n=dammit@67.191.211.185) joined ##slackware. [12:14] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) left ##slackware. [12:14] When you chroot using the install cd should the command prompt change? [12:15] digifor: more than likely [12:16] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [12:18] missyjane: have you done a fsck yet? [12:18] fsck? why would i need to do that? [12:19] i cant do it on this system anyway fsck doesnt seem to know what ext4 is [12:19] missyjane: I dunno because you can't fucking boot? that's what i'm getting from your pasted image.. [12:19] fsck: fsck.ext4: not found [12:19] thats on 12.1, and why the need to be so hostile? [12:19] missyjane: I'm not hostile. [12:20] don't take things so personal. [12:20] missyjane: So what's going on? [12:20] not sure what to do now, so im waiting for when the guys wake up [12:21] in here*, i always have problems with other versions of slackwarae [12:21] missyjane, why you want / need ext4? [12:21] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:21] jonsmith1982, it came witht current so.. i took it [12:21] missyjane: What are you doing or what happened? All i saw was a plee for help and this screenshot. [12:21] ip-route (n=iproute@200.172.83.136) joined ##slackware. [12:21] im installing current (aug 18 i think) [12:22] on an existing system? [12:22] Or fresh install? [12:22] fresh install [12:22] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:22] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.15) left irc: [12:22] And what is the problem? [12:22] you made the image yourself? [12:23] jonsmith1982, made? i borrowed a cam and took it [12:23] iso? [12:23] agentc0re|work, and the problem is i cant boot to login: [12:23] oh you mean that [12:23] http://macrochan.org/view.php?u=UX63RCQQICV3Q4JDBQ7YHDFGYVAXEOA7 LOL [12:23] well md5sum showed a-ok before i burned it [12:23] ShamwowVideoProf (n=neo1993@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:23] missyjane: so the install worked? [12:24] missyjane: Or rather, you completed the install? [12:24] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:24] Urchlay (n=dammit@67.191.211.185) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [12:24] yes [12:24] that would be a first boot [12:24] a new error compiling cloog-ppl. ./include/cloog/domain.h: 93 error: expected ')' before '*' token [12:25] where does it get up to then? [12:25] jonsmith1982, why did you ask? [12:25] tanamo (n=tanamo@125.252.70.230) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:25] block.lo Error 1 [12:26] i had a similar issue where it wouldn't load on first boot. [12:26] i tried to boot again [12:26] didnt work, same error [12:26] yeah one sec.... [12:26] :( [12:27] missyjane Is this any use on the ext4 front? [12:27] is what any use? [12:27] v [12:27] http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-convert-ext3-to-ext4-file-system.html [12:27] i chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.udev and it booted then i knew the problem was with udev.... ended up commenting out a few pcmcia rules and it worked with udev executable. [12:27] is it even possible to compile cloog-ppl on slack? [12:27] digifor, thats a nice link [12:28] missyjane: boot to CD and see if you can mount manually. [12:28] bought a used eth hub today for 10$.us; 2/3rds less than a new device from walmart [12:28] ...hub? [12:28] yep [12:28] hm [12:28] There is a link at the bottom for Fedora Ext4 wiki which also might help [12:28] hahaha [12:28] from SMC [12:28] why would you ever want a hub? [12:28] HUBs are so old [12:28] ok im gonna try to reinstall if i cant mount it, this time with ext3 [12:28] for a lan [12:29] switch < HUB [12:29] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [12:29] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.97) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:29] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:29] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: "Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com" [12:29] i'd like to find a cable modem tho [12:29] what slack package contains domain? [12:30] grep domain /var/log/packages/* [12:30] ah [12:30] :) [12:30] grep -w [12:30] agentc0re|work is there a reason you despise hubs? [12:30] shoot not there [12:31] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "lala" [12:32] maybe its in texet [12:32] in what? [12:32] *tetex [12:32] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:32] o [12:33] ah i love you guys! :) [12:33] Action: Quiznos oozes [12:33] sry im high [12:33] heh [12:34] Thom1 (n=thom1@10.102.87-79.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [12:34] nope not in that either [12:34] wazit do? [12:35] well i need to fix this cloog-ppl compiling error so i can upgrade my gcc to 4.4 with my custom varibles [12:35] but... dont look like my dream is gunna happen [12:35] do it differently then [12:35] all i need is cloog-ppl. i need that though [12:35] google [12:35] google cloo* [12:35] Tyrael_ (n=tyrael@c2224.upc-c.chello.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:35] i did google. like crazy [12:36] its a bug in GCC i think [12:36] i think i found it on google, first anchor [12:36] repo.or.cz/cloog-ppl.git [12:36] CLooG [12:37] yeah im trying to COMPILE IT [12:37] aka make [12:37] chk that url [12:37] yeah and? [12:38] you said yo ucouldnt find it online [12:38] doesn't say "fixes the domain.h header" [12:38] no i have cloog-ppl downloaded [12:38] it just wont compile [12:38] google "cloopg-ppl domain.h" [12:38] fix the speling [12:38] grab a binpkg [12:39] nah i rather do this by hand [12:39] k [12:39] bbl [12:39] i dont trust binaries unless its from slack [12:41] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:42] rinaldi (n=chatzill@h173.236.91.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [12:43] missyjane (n=test@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [12:43] wow guys [12:43] wow D: [12:43] suspend to ram ... [12:44] happy? :P [12:44] lol [12:44] macavity, im on current [12:44] im.. somewhat unsure... [12:44] ugh the current gcc is so messed up [12:44] about? [12:44] lol.. at surface everything works [12:45] ShamwowVideoProf: say what?!? [12:45] either pick the stable gcc 4.3.4 or the latest bleeding edge snapshot of gcc 4.4 [12:45] i cant compile cloog-ppl [12:45] but i feel like something is missing... [12:45] fails at err... domain.h [12:45] its filed as a gcc bug [12:45] missyjane: the usuall forcing and bickering? [12:45] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A77A89.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:46] whatcha mean? [12:46] y0 [12:46] I discovered Sendmail.conf of SASL should be placed in /etc/sasl2/ and it's not default created [12:47] hi slackytude [12:47] greetings missyjane [12:47] is it possible to compile cloog-ppl or no? [12:47] missyjane: the "something is missing" part.. could it be that you have come to expect to fight the system? [12:48] missyjane: like, you lack the sense of accomplishment because it just went smooth? [12:48] macavity, lol did you just come in? cause it didnt go smooth at all, i am booting from cd [12:48] i just compiled like 50 tools yet cloog-ppl which is like 784K (compressed) wont compile [12:49] something so so small. :( [12:49] glibc and gmp compiled fine even. [12:49] missyjane: oh [12:49] missyjane: i just woke up, and didnt backlog [12:49] i mean all of my flash videos work now for one, thats good news but... [12:49] good morning macavity :) [12:50] dont know.. im feeling freakishly suspicious... [12:50] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [12:50] sky1 (n=blackcat@81.89.55.8) joined ##slackware. [12:51] macavity: can you help? lie if u have time? [12:51] *like [12:51] sry [12:51] AH HA [12:51] i found a problem [12:51] trying to play one of the flash file destroyed my kde decoration [12:52] ./include/cloog/domain.h: 93 error: expected ')' before '*' token [12:52] missyjane (n=test@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: "Leaving" [12:53] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Client Quit [12:54] xsamurai (n=munki@pool-71-106-233-110.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:54] rinaldi (n=chatzill@h173.236.91.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0b2pre/20090825110839]" [12:54] does that mean i dont have domain.h installed? [12:54] like the header for a program? [12:57] -->>__<<-- [12:57] *smoke comes out of ears* [12:58] sky1 (n=blackcat@81.89.55.8) left ##slackware. [12:58] why everybody leaving? [12:59] ShamwowVideoProf: i have yet to see slackware ship with a broken gcc... [12:59] ShamwowVideoProf: you said you were on -current, right? [12:59] yeeeeah [12:59] 4.3.3 is pretty solid [12:59] my mistake [12:59] I just can't do lilo. [13:00] GET A GRUB USB THINGY [13:00] Action: ShamwowVideoProf loves caps lock [13:00] ShamwowVideoProf, I think so tomorrow [13:00] ttfn [13:00] digifor (n=pjharper@122.252.178.224) left irc: "Leaving" [13:01] macavity: all im trying to do... is get cloog-ppl to compile that is 1.15.X [13:02] i compiled m4, glibc, make, binutils, gawk, gettext and like 200 other things fine. this one last thing! THE LAST ONE!! [13:02] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [13:03] Karu (n=alch@78-28-83-131.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [13:04] qpp (n=qpp@99-195-55-117.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [13:04] qpp (n=qpp@99-195-55-117.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware. [13:09] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:09] I'm not missing much stuff in ./configure for cloog-ppl either [13:10] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-mzcwovdpklfhivlv) left irc: [13:11] What's the default ftp in slackware? [13:11] And where is it? [13:11] for usa? i thinks its umm oregon osl [13:11] sorry i mean, to setup a server. [13:11] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:11] oh [13:11] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [13:12] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [13:12] ftp://ftp.slackware.com [13:12] Greetings everyone :) [13:13] hi. fire|bird i really need help [13:13] neoark_ (n=Asmadeus@cre77-1-88-175-223-224.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [13:13] like BADLY [13:13] lol, well, I won't guarantee I can help you out, but what's the problem? [13:13] Yeah no. I mean to run an ftp server. [13:13] y0 hiptobecubic [13:13] ./include/cloog/domain.h: 93 error: expected ')' before '*' token. im trying to compile cloog-ppl [13:13] hey fire|bird [13:14] Nick change: neoark_ -> Asmadeus [13:14] how do i fix this domain.h file thing? [13:15] im on slackware current [13:16] if you don't know, which is fine, i'll email the lead dev for cloog-ppl [13:17] wolven (n=wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined ##slackware. [13:17] ShamwowVideoProf: I'm not sure about that message, I've never built cloog-ppl either. [13:17] I bet that's not the only error you got. Usually that kind of error will be the result of an earlier error, where it's missing some header [13:18] ah [13:18] there isn't an ftp-oriented rc script? [13:18] /bin/ls: cannot access /etc/rc.d/*ftp*: No such file or directory [13:18] nope thats it [13:19] ill post the make output to my sitr [13:19] *site [13:19] ok [13:19] hey barefooted|applicant [13:19] I should warn you, I have no idea what "cloog-ppl" is, and can't guess from the name, but I'm usually OK at diagnosing compiler errors... [13:19] err, Urchlay [13:19] lovable|fireplace [13:19] haha [13:20] Urchlay_, what that supposed to be a hint, lol? [13:20] hiptobecubic: usually you set up an ftp server to run under inetd, see /etc/inetd.conf [13:20] Urchlay_, ah ok. thanks [13:21] http://neo-technical.wikispaces.com/file/view/error2.txt [13:21] i had to go to the damn ER this morning because of stomach and chest pains turns out i have bruised ribs and probaly just an ulcer [13:21] oo but should i go proftp or vsftp [13:21] so much for sleeping in. got some good pain pills though [13:21] hey nix_chix0r, wow, how'd the bruised ribs happen? [13:21] nix_chix0r that sucks [13:21] fire| [13:22] fire|bird, no clue heh [13:22] nix_chix0r: get in a fight with the hubby? :P [13:22] bird i posted the link [13:22] all i can think of is the gym but who knows [13:22] mild tendonitisperhaps [13:22] nix_chix0r: yeah, could be, you wouldn't think that'd cause it though. [13:22] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl11-118-32.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:22] ShamwowVideoProf: hm. does cloog-ppl have lots of dependencies? If not, I could grab the source and try to compile it here, on my (slightly outdated) -current box [13:23] nix_chix0r: Well, I'm glad it's just bruised ribs and not broken. :) [13:23] Urchlay_ you need to install polylib [13:23] yeah [13:23] could be from rough sexytime [13:23] but thats it IIRC [13:23] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [13:23] nix_chix0r: See, you shouldn't have read that sex tips book. :P [13:23] i hate rough. im not circumsized so it hurts when its rough [13:24] hiptobecubic: I dunno. I used to use proftpd a lot, but it kept needing to be updated for security reasons. Not sure whether that's still the case... [13:24] Asmadeus_ (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [13:24] Asmadeus (n=Asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: "cya !" [13:25] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:25] Nick change: Asmadeus_ -> Asmadeus [13:25] Nick change: Urchlay_ -> Urchlay [13:25] i rather not have parts of my penis removed [13:25] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:26] \o/, opera 10 RC is out. [13:27] firefox ftw [13:27] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:27] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:27] http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/08/25/0021246/Appeals-Court-Overturns-2007-Unix-Copyright-Decision [13:28] Urchlay: you're going to try and compile? [13:29] well, actually, I gotta eat and run... but if you're still having problems when I get back later tonight, I could have a look... [13:29] i think i was once on slashdot [13:29] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [13:29] Playstation 3 firmware stuff [13:30] awesome! [13:30] @ Urchlay [13:31] ViN86 (i=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-EIGHTY-THREE.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [13:32] all the description says is "clunky loop generator", what does this thing actually do? [13:32] elektronisch (i=421c2a8e@gateway/web/freenode/x-xqlcleaeqtkaefqv) joined ##slackware. [13:32] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-204-49.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:32] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [13:37] bootstrap (n=ovnicraf@200.63.208.226) joined ##slackware. [13:37] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@200.63.208.226) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:38] samuelig_ (n=samuelig@94.pool85-57-129.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [13:40] Bart_S (n=Shan@83.119.172.124) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:40] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:41] Bart_S (n=Shan@83.119.172.124) joined ##slackware. [13:41] Urchlay i actually dont know but i need it [13:41] it wont break anything [13:41] Urchlay, there appears to be more to it than just uncommenting some inetd.conf lines. Sorry, i haven't tried to this before [13:41] not a single thing. [13:47] Ekc (n=iskar@78.128.55.9) joined ##slackware. [13:50] ShamwowVideoProf (n=neo1993@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:50] hiptobecubic: uncomment one of those 2 lines in inetd.conf, "killall -HUP inetd", should do it (unless you're like me and you went "chmod 644 /usr/sbin/inetd" a while back, to keep it from running) [13:51] Urchlay, yeah i did that..... well i did /etc/rc.d/rc.inetd restart. 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[14:07] when/if that ShamwowVideoProf guy comes back, tell him ppl and cloog-ppl compiled just fine on my -current box [14:08] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-118-32.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:08] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [14:12] what's that Urchlay? [14:13] http://cheezburger.com/view.aspx?ciid=5056014 [14:13] slax (n=q@85.97.181.199) joined ##slackware. [14:13] when you are bored, lolcats always does the trick :P [14:15] dammn macavity :P [14:15] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: "Leaving" [14:15] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:17] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Success [14:17] hmmmm, i hate promise raid controllers [14:17] s0d0 (n=john@host86-175-193-86.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:17] STILLLL trying to set up this ftp server. I don't know what's going on here. [14:18] hiptobecubic: what seems the problem? [14:19] BP{k}, i'm just getting connection refused from ftp://localhost after uncommenting an ftp line in inetd.conf and killall -1 inetd [14:19] mikearr (n=miker@pool-72-91-179-75.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:20] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:20] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [14:20] dorin_ro (n=dorin@89.123.156.190) joined ##slackware. [14:20] mikearr (n=miker@pool-72-91-179-75.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:20] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:20] hy all [14:20] howdy [14:20] hiptobecubic: which ftp server? [14:21] (since inetd has both vsftpd and proftpd) [14:21] i tried pro and vs (uncommenting one then the other) [14:21] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:21] BP{k}, is it intended to be as simple as just uncommenting those lines and restarting inetd? [14:21] Or did i miss some readme somewhere about configs [14:21] hiptobecubic: depends on the server, it might need some more configuring. Can you please pastebin your /etc/vsftpd.conf [14:21] http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=607 [14:22] BP{k}, sure hold on [14:22] will this ATI video card ( Sapphire ATI Radeon HD4870 512MB DDR5 256-bit ) work in linux ? or shoud i try a nvidia one? [14:22] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [14:22] Nick change: Zoubidda1a -> Zoubiddaaa [14:23] Hermann (n=Hermannn@81.170.156.174) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:23] LF4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:24] dorin_ro: it should work with the radeonhd driver [14:24] BP{k}, 3508 50th Street [14:24] err [14:25] ktos (n=ktos@adfn2.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left ##slackware ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away"). [14:25] BP{k}, http://gist.github.com/174900 [14:25] Action: BP{k} redirect the cluestar to immediate destruction ;) [14:26] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [14:26] eh? [14:26] does nvidia have better suport than ATI ? [14:26] dorin_ro, yes [14:27] what shoud i buy?: ati or nvidia ? [14:27] i prefer nvidia, but it depends on what you're doing i guess [14:27] the nvidia drivers are certainly easy to work with [14:28] icarus (n=sirjoshi@unaffiliated/min0s) joined ##slackware. [14:28] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [14:28] alright [14:28] quite [14:28] hiptobecubic: hm can't see anything to much difference between your and my local config. [14:29] howdy BP{k} [14:29] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.58.184.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:29] Action: spook is drunk and lonely [14:29] hiptobecubic: when trying to login what's the exact error message (and login as who (annoymouse/local user (if so who)). [14:29] samuelig_ (n=samuelig@94.pool85-57-129.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:29] Action: spook is probally also being an attention whore [14:29] fire|bird: howdy thar! how goes? [14:29] BP{k}, i don't get to login. It just refuses connections. [14:30] BP{k}: excellent, my wifi router arrives today. you? [14:30] nevermind.... it just let me connect. [14:30] fire|bird: I am good :) recovered from travelling yesterday :) having a relaxing day at the moment :) [14:31] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: Client Quit [14:33] elektronisch (i=421c2a8e@gateway/web/freenode/x-xqlcleaeqtkaefqv) left ##slackware. [14:34] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [14:34] argh... [14:34] hm... so its strange, kde4 can play flash files that my kde3 cant [14:34] i'm going to fucking shoot this raid controller [14:34] Zordrak (n=jaz@unaffiliated/zordrak) joined ##slackware. [14:34] Necos: onboard? [14:34] missyjane: so you got your system up and running i see. [14:35] nah, it's an old raid card... promise supertrack sx6000 [14:35] missyjane: KDE doesn't play flash files [14:35] think i'm gonna swap it for a 3ware 7506 [14:35] i have a spare sitting in the cabinet, but i gotta back up the data first [14:36] heh kde4 is cool [14:36] dunno but current can play my flash files better than 12.1, so obviously something changed [14:36] Zordrak_ (n=jaz@87-194-141-163.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:37] define..better [14:37] xxjx (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/xxjx) joined ##slackware. [14:38] as in, 12.1 wont even play it, says i dont have some codec or something, current can play it (despite that some of the audio seem very distort like i was hearing channel 3) [14:38] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:39] hmmm? i'm on 12.1 and i can play flash just fine [14:39] you mean in browser? or from mplayer / vlc / etc? [14:39] hi say i want to reconfigure the kernel in which i am currently using once i build the kernel with my desired changes i should be just able to copy the new kernel etc to /boot and type "make modules_install" to overwrite my previous modules? [14:40] close to that gaz- but you need to lilo and such too [14:40] gaz-: I would add another entry to lilo [14:40] and keep the other kernel as well [14:40] as a fallback until youre sure your new one is sufficient [14:41] Necos, not all of them, i download TONS of flash [14:41] yer ive done that but overwriting the modules will that be ok? [14:41] missyjane: you can't play them with mplayer or vlc? [14:42] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-162-243.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:42] gaz-: should be ok [14:42] or are they swf games and such? [14:42] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:42] gaz-: you check out the slack book? [14:43] gaz-: ftp://ftp.slackbook.org/pub/slackbook/slackbook-2.0.pdf [14:43] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=linux:kernelbuilding [14:43] That's a good book [14:43] Necos, nope [14:43] and..when you say '12.1 won't play it', what are you using to play it? [14:43] There's a new edition coming for Slackware 13 apparently [14:44] gaz-: Use Necos link, it's more relevant [14:44] err [14:44] newer lol [14:44] since youre probably working with a 2.6.x kernel, not a 2.4 [14:44] but both should be correct [14:44] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [14:44] hehe [14:44] bookmarked for easy reference [14:45] i wouldnt have survived without the slack book lol [14:45] actually have a hard copy heh [14:46] Nick change: chb -> chb|bauen [14:46] nice [14:47] oh wow, mplayer is still alive? [14:48] ViN86: Necos thanks ive been folowing he alien.slackbook :) [14:48] darkwurm (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: "Leaving" [14:48] cool :) [14:49] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:49] darkwurm (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [14:49] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [14:50] cant tell you how many times i flubbed my 2.6 kernel when i was just starting with slack 9 lol [14:50] haha, http://imgur.com/TtLdb.jpg [14:50] IceW (n=sartori@189.19.153.171) left irc: Connection timed out [14:50] took me like 3 times to get all the drivers/modules that i needed for my nforce2 board heh [14:50] i started with 7 >.> [14:51] fire|bird: rofl that's great [14:51] http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/08/25/1453213/British-Video-Recordings-Act-1984-Invalid?from=rss [14:51] LOL [14:51] For those that live in the UK ^^ [14:51] fire|bird: 44 goin on 10 [14:51] lol [14:51] icarus (n=sirjoshi@unaffiliated/min0s) left irc: "Xaric: If you have a better quit message then submit a patch!" [14:52] wow, that's sad... [14:53] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [14:53] ViN86: haha [14:53] Nick change: icarus_ -> icarus [14:54] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/min0s) left irc: Client Quit [14:54] Necos: which part? [14:54] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:54] y0 agentc0re|work [14:54] Necos: The banning or the antics? [14:54] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [14:54] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:54] both [14:54] fire|bird: yo! [14:54] lol [14:54] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-29-232.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:54] Necos: I think it's sad that they sent her a letter. That shit is hilarious! :P [14:55] chb|bauen (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:55] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [14:55] straterra, i am using everything xine, gxine, mplayer, etc [14:55] http://noobfarm.org/?id=1660 HAHAHHAA Great!!! [14:56] agentc0re|work: hahahaha, I remember that last night. [14:57] LOL, didn't notice until now but he was ROOT too.. lmao!!! [14:57] LOL [14:57] agentc0re|work: yeah, he was. [14:58] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) joined ##slackware. [14:58] 1659 [14:58] lol [14:59] lol, jeev got noobfarmed :P [14:59] slackytude|evil (n=slacky@p54A73541.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:00] y0 slackytude|evil [15:00] y0 [15:00] slackytude|evil: opera 10 rc is out :D [15:00] ui! [15:00] Anybody know what the hell /etc/organization is for? [15:01] gonna get it [15:01] is it good? [15:01] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:01] slackytude|evil: so far, it's excellent. [15:01] new icon even [15:01] Alan_Hicks, its empty here too [15:01] great [15:01] I need to put my ORGANIZATION here. [15:01] < dartmouth> Alan_Hicks: because secretly I remind you of a younger, better looking Alan_Hicks? :D [15:02] < Alan_Hicks> dartmouth: No, you remind me of a younger, uglier, dumber Lassie. [15:02] LOL [15:02] haha [15:02] hey. it's the same thing. [15:02] LOL, is that on noobfarm? [15:02] yes [15:02] 1460 [15:02] wd_ (n=wd@adsl-71-137-252-219.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [15:03] slackytude|evil: Hmm, upon looking right now, looks like unite isn't in this build though. [15:03] Action: dartmouth throws a cheddar sausage link at Alan_Hicks [15:03] >.> [15:03] i don't get http://noobfarm.org/?id=1653 Anyone from there care to explain? [15:03] fire|bird, not a good sign [15:03] pupiteee1 (n=p@93.86.0.121) joined ##slackware. [15:03] Action: fire|bird throws a turkey at dartmouth [15:03] lol [15:04] The British Isles [15:04] speaking of turkey, anyone ever had a Turducken? [15:04] Necos: i don't get it.. [15:04] slackytude|evil: Yeah, they've been doing a lot of work on it, we'll see what happens with it. [15:04] It's brit humour. Not even *they* get it. [15:04] agentc0re|work: You don't get that? You put the noob in noobfarm. :P [15:05] wikipedia ftw? [15:05] its a pun [15:05] agentc0re|work: He wants to open a supermarket and name it the British Aisles, i.e. a supermarket is full of grocery isles. get it now? [15:05] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A77A89.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:06] why that is funny is beyond me. [15:06] dartmouth: that's not even British humor, it's just humor, that a FEW people in here don't get apparently. :P [15:06] dartmouth: Like so many other things. [15:06] you should do something more productive, like watch old Monty Python skits [15:06] puns just aren't funny [15:07] Alan_Hicks: yeah. like attracting women and interpersonal skills....ethical project management...that kinda thing. so beyond 'me' ;) [15:07] sounds like a personal problem >.> [15:08] Action: dartmouth whistles... [15:08] maybe try some aftershave [15:09] What I thought I would do is talk endless shit about every newcomer that ticked me off once and then never, ever, ever, let it go and totally refuse to accept that they grow (and sometimes grow faster than myself). I like that idea better :P [15:10] pupiteee (n=p@212.200.212.183) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:10] you must be a hit at partys [15:11] alright [15:11] missyjane: it's pronounced 'hooah' [15:11] hoorah [15:12] no, hooah. hoorah is what the lessers say. [15:12] like the kitchen workers and ditch diggers. [15:12] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-24-33.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:12] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [15:12] dartmouth: Speaking of... you still haven't finished that ditch I hired you to dig. [15:12] depends on if we're talking army or marine [15:12] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.82.69) joined ##slackware. [15:13] army = hooah [15:13] Alan_Hicks: yeah, you were paying me in offering chances to help out with the slackware distro and support for the community, and you're at NP status. [15:14] NP? [15:14] NP != P [15:14] Non-payment. [15:14] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [15:14] NP != P? please prove [15:14] argh [15:14] uni is starting soon [15:14] lol slackboy [15:14] err [15:14] slackytude|evil: [15:15] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [15:15] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-181-165.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:15] y0 lf4 [15:19] im feeling nostalgic [15:19] I'm feeling constipated. [15:19] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:19] nostaligia aint what it used to be [15:20] yeah the new cool is indifference [15:20] back in my day we had *real* nostalgia [15:20] lol :).. [15:20] not the soppy, new kind you get nowadys [15:20] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.6) joined ##slackware. [15:21] missyjane, what you feel nostalgic about? [15:22] hey slackytude|evil [15:22] thinking, what will happen 5 years down the road [15:22] slackytude|evil: How are things going? [15:22] lf4, fine. busy day at work but quite enjoyable actually. for a work day that is. how about you? [15:22] y0 lf4 [15:23] hey fire|bird [15:23] missyjane, whats in 5 years? or just genrealy thingy about the future? [15:23] topic (n=user@74-42-112-24.dr01.atmr.al.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:23] wow slackytude|evil You... enjoyed work? :____)) [15:23] lf4: he doesn't usually, I think he must be under the weather today talking crazy like that. :P [15:23] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [15:23] I got home and slept nicely, now I have to figure out why this system keeps crashing. [15:24] slackytude|evil, nothing last forever, thats all... :( [15:24] lf4, well, the customers had an interessting problem, this machine went down in flames, website needed doing. lots of interessting stuff as opposed to customer questions like "why cant I print?" [15:24] fire|bird: Haha yeah I know its crazy talk that is. How about yourself enjoying the day? [15:24] pidgin 2.6.1 adds voice and video support, not for windows. [15:24] fire|bird, bah [15:24] slackytude|evil: Nice :) [15:24] lf4: It's crashing because I'z in your internetz stealing your packetz. :P [15:24] missyjane, I see. well, carpe diem [15:24] spook: old news. :P [15:24] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [15:24] wtf. i remember back in the day the devs were like WE WILL NEVER SUPPORT VOICE OR VIDEO, NEVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR MUAHAHAHAHA [15:25] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:25] spook lol why did they say that? [15:25] lf4: Oh yeah, excellent day today, my wifi router arrives today. :D [15:25] lf4: you? [15:25] fire|bird: haha I thought it was the system getting to hot but its only at 40C might be the video chipset causing it. [15:26] fire|bird: Thats great :) [15:26] Action: lf4 goes over to fire|bird's house and gets ready to mess with his internet. [15:26] fire|bird: I just woke up haha [15:26] haha [15:27] has anyone heard of a product called Accelerated Reader? [15:27] NO, not my internetz, I need that to work today so I can mess with the router and get the lappy online. [15:27] stealth- (n=stealth@unaffiliated/stealth-) joined ##slackware. [15:27] Action: quasar punches fire|bird in the face with a spork. (RAV#3) [15:27] lf4: ^^^ [15:27] lol ;) fire|bird [15:27] damn, quasar is a violent little monkey >.> [15:27] Action: lf4 gives quasar a banana [15:27] Action: fire|bird punches quasar in the face with brass knuckles :D I win. [15:27] fire|bird: you need to get some bodyguards [15:28] :( [15:28] Necos: no doubt, you busy today? :P [15:28] send in ninja chipmunks, they're cheaper [15:28] they work for nuts >.> [15:28] haha [15:28] xchat uses gtk right? if so how can i change the windows style/decoration for it? [15:28] change .gtkrc? [15:29] Well that'll be easy, I'll send em after the squirrels, they'll get paid gratuitously. :P [15:29] from where necos? [15:29] Necos is from the corner of his own mind. [15:29] .gtkrc-2.0 rather [15:29] just install a theme [15:29] not sure how :/ [15:30] There's this magical technology.. [15:30] It's called Google [15:30] You ask it a question..and it helps you find answers [15:30] missyjane: There's also a handy little app on SBo gtk-chtheme so you can change the theme for gtk apps. [15:30] ah [15:30] finally :x [15:30] i cant remember, i think it was something to do with all the networks using a different way for dealing with video and voice [15:30] fire|bird, any change for the reverse? [15:30] thank you fire|bird [15:30] straterra: nah, the man with the answers is ask jeeves. :P [15:30] missyjane: you're welcome [15:30] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-162-243.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [15:31] http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/products_security_advisory09186a0080af150f.shtml [15:31] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-162-243.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:31] antiwire, heh, cisco is on a roll [15:31] http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2 <--- good start for themse [15:31] *themes [15:31] lol [15:31] altavista :P [15:31] anyway to theme kde stuff in xfce? [15:31] good start towards A STUPID TOOLKIT. [15:31] Necos: so is opendesktop.org :) [15:31] and this one too http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/170722/cisco_wireless_lan_vulnerability_could_open_back_door.html [15:31] yep [15:32] spook, stop hatin on gtk :P [15:32] my penis can open back doors too [15:32] straterra: your penis gets hard for windows you windows fag [15:32] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:32] or possibly slam them shut. :/ [15:32] Action: fire|bird runs [15:33] psyl0n (n=_@nat/ibm.br/x-klpldyylodxuhfdc) joined ##slackware. [15:34] hm.. this is perfect... [15:35] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:35] man i'm a troll when i'm drunk [15:36] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:36] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [15:37] bootstrap (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [15:38] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [15:38] Action: missyjane goes to sulk in the corner [15:38] Action: Necos pokes missyjane [15:38] Action: spook kidnaps missyjane [15:38] antiwire: I got the initrd built finaly for the lvm/crypt. I'd missed building in support for the sata drive. Just for your info, building the initrd for this lvm/crypt requires the -L option. Otherwise building it is the same. :P [15:38] uh oh [15:38] hide the knives, black clothing and three days grace.. [15:38] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.71.131) joined ##slackware. [15:39] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.172.42) joined ##slackware. [15:39] straterra: What's wrong with Three Days Grace? :P [15:39] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [15:39] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] Nothing if you like emo music [15:40] chopp: doh! i knew about the -L for LVM but once again...i completely failed to have it click that you needed that [15:40] straterra: you're an emo for windows you windows emo [15:41] antiwire: well I'd figured that out right away, but missing the sata support took me a bit. [15:41] chopp: it's working now though? [15:42] antiwire: works great! :) [15:42] and the pam [15:42] chopp: nice [15:42] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: "leaving" [15:42] Action: Evil_Tux catches fire|bird and kicks him in the nuts [15:42] no kicking in the nuts [15:42] even i know that hurts like hell [15:43] Action: spook kidnaps missyjane again [15:43] >.> [15:43] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [15:43] this is a madhouse [15:43] spook you used me more than enough, i no longer care [15:43] my existentialist mind will wander to a better place [15:43] Necos: I agree but then again when hasn't it been? [15:43] Action: fire|bird kicks Evil_Tux next to spook's head. :/ [15:44] Action: lf4 places a nuke in the channel... BOOOOM! [15:44] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. [15:44] can i make a wireless router into an AP so it can get internet ? [15:44] Necos: There's times it isn't? :P [15:44] hm firefox uses gtk?... [15:44] yes [15:45] :(... [15:45] macman_: Yep thats what I did with my router. [15:45] how ? [15:45] fire|bird: yes, but i think that was an illusion i created >.> [15:45] lol [15:45] macman_: have you looked at the router's options yet? [15:45] lf4: did you have to flash a new ROM to it? [15:45] heh .. lol let me go plug it in [15:46] some of the linksys ones required that... [15:46] just asking laj [15:46] err .. lf4 [15:46] http://zip.4chan.org/g/src/1251226550059.jpg teeheee it's real :) [15:46] (SFW) [15:46] ViN86: No I just configured it properly. :) [15:46] heh, whats the brand/model? [15:47] I have some junk linksys wrt54gx2 [15:47] hmm, you got it to connect to another router via wireless? [15:47] a 4chan image that's SFW? [15:47] Necos: Yep [15:47] or you mean a wireless AP? [15:47] what kind of dimension did i enter? >.> [15:47] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:48] Necos: it's a microsoft advert, and it's... slightly racist, I guess, but MS is the one doing it. [15:48] Necos: it really is SFW. I looked. [15:48] Linksys >> Cisco Switch >> Router >> Modem [15:48] ohh yea i did that [15:48] just disabled DHCP and set a static IP [15:48] SuN, what did M$ say? [15:48] i thought you meant get the router to access another via wireless [15:48] No idea, ongoing story, I guess. [15:48] Check the URL, it's really still there. [15:49] At least, was a few minutes ago when I checked it. [15:49] pupiteee1 (n=p@93.86.0.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:49] ViN86: I have DHCP enabled on the wireless side so anyone connecting to it will get a 192.168.0.X instead of 1.X [15:49] macman_ : whats your current setup? [15:49] lf4: ahh that's a good idea, subnet still 255:255:255:0? [15:49] Yeah [15:49] nice [15:50] That way I can access the wireless devices but they don't ahve a clue about my network [15:50] you're still natting then [15:50] good as long as you dont need them to see each other lol [15:51] If you have an AP/router combo device that supports bridging you can do this seamlessly [15:51] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:51] antiwire: Yeah its a nat off my orignal network. [15:51] lf4: i assume this isnt your home network... [15:52] ViN86: why? and it is. [15:52] antiwire: Yeah a bridge would be nice but I let a friend use my AP that could bridge. [15:52] eh? [15:52] you disable NAT on the unit and set a static IP on the router then plug it into an ethernet port on the network and set the AP side to AP mode and setup the wireless. then bridge the wireless interface to the interface that has the static IP [15:53] well with the current setup, the wireless computers cant view the ones off the router right? [15:53] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:53] then you have a NAT free wireless bridge [15:53] oh, the black guy became a white guy >.> [15:53] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [15:53] ViN86: correct [15:53] i even enable dhcp forwarding so the wireless clients get IPs from the main network [15:53] everything ends up on the same subnet this way [15:53] SuN: that's a horrible photosho hahaha [15:54] the guys hand stays the same color btw... [15:54] Yep [15:54] you know inside that microsoft logo is a hidden swastika [15:54] antiwire: Yeah i've done that before. :) but I wanted wireless to be on a seporate network. [15:54] Wonder if it'll make slashdot. [15:54] lf4: yea i was thinking for home network to keep em the same in case you have files shared on another system, thats all [15:55] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) left irc: [15:55] they photoshopped the black guy out >.<; [15:55] SuN: there is nothing wrong about regionally directed advertising, even if the graphics suck [15:55] or maybe the shopped him in [15:55] ViN86: Oh wireless is mainly just to surf/chat if I really want to do work I connect by wire. [15:55] could also do a 255:255:255:128 and then have the DHCP start at 192.168.1.128 or something [15:55] ahh ok [15:55] antiwire: 'course not, though this is somewhat painful. [15:55] Anyone gotten SATA hotplug to work on an Intel IC10 chipset? [15:56] s/IC10/ICH10/ [15:56] lf4: you see why i thought it was corporate or something though? lol [15:56] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:56] ViN86: Yep makes sense :) [15:57] i had to do that with a company i used to work at [15:57] with no networking background, subnets are a pita lol [15:57] ViN86: If it was I would have gone to Vlans not just subnets. [15:57] eviljames: http://noobfarm.org/?id=1647 [15:57] until you understand them... [15:57] Ture [15:57] s/ture/true/ [15:58] lol [15:58] wikipedia is the ignorant person's best friend imo lol [15:59] http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1660 damn! wheres Neo_The_User, i wanna punch him in the nose, but i guess i would have to stand in line and wait my turn [15:59] or you can just struggle with it for days until it works hahaha [15:59] lol [15:59] ViN86: x.x.x.128/25 is the subnet address. You shouldn't start dhcp on the subnet address. Use .129 for the initial value instead. [15:59] Alan_Hicks: yea i was going to say 129, looks i forgot my subnet stuff i learned already [15:59] Pig_Pen: haha, he may not come around for a while. :P [16:00] i sat here for a good 30 sec contemplating 128 vs 129 hahaha [16:00] Pat V. needs to come in here incognito so nobody knows who he is [16:00] then figured someone would correct me either way lol [16:01] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [16:01] hahaha [16:01] I think Pat has better things to do than waste his time in here. [16:02] Action: lf4 Agrees [16:02] Yeah.. who scared PV off the other day? [16:02] talkin' about a gun to hi shead or something :) [16:02] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [16:02] true, but when he does want to visit he should use a secret nick [16:02] who would do such a crazy thing? [16:02] check noobfarm [16:02] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.58.184.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:02] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [16:03] Pig_Pen: and not with "volkerdi@slackware" in the hostname ;) [16:03] yup, use a proxy [16:03] in some way i feel sorry for him... [16:03] he doesnt even get paid to make slackware better [16:03] I don't [16:04] umm he does get paid [16:04] \o/ support slackware [16:04] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:04] Slackware is incorporated...there is a store [16:04] it's a brand name... [16:05] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:05] speaking of such, time for a new slack hat [16:05] Next on my list is the polo :P [16:05] missyjane: yes he does, i pay him every month [16:05] chopp: Buy all the slack apparel. :) [16:06] wait, slackware is free? [16:06] crap [16:06] lol [16:06] haha [16:06] straterra, how come you dont feel sorry for him/ [16:06] ? [16:06] Action: slackytude|evil got a slackware t-shirt [16:06] im writing a letter to HP for charging me... [16:06] i run a pirated copy of slackware [16:06] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [16:06] Pig_Pen: that's badass [16:07] fire|bird: I'm well outfitted in slack apparell :) [16:07] actually [16:07] wow Pig_Pen Thats difficult to find I heard. [16:07] Action: slackytude|evil is going to get a slackware t-shirt [16:07] Pig_Pen, i stole mine from slack.no, dont tell anyone [16:07] Pig_Pen: Does it have SGA? Slackware Genuine Advantage? :P [16:07] fire|bird: rofl [16:07] Action: lf4 steals slackytude|evil's shirt. [16:07] fire|bird, xD! [16:07] chopp: good. :) [16:07] noooo! [16:07] khaaaan! [16:07] fire|bird: yes and it breaks parts of the computer even though its a legit cd key [16:07] haha [16:07] there's a korean scottish skittles commercial? [16:07] Action: ViN86 hugs DRM [16:08] Necos: lol what? [16:08] Necos: yes, for the better part of a year there has been lol [16:08] Action: ViN86 sends Necos a tv tuner for his PC so he can keep up with TV commercials [16:08] one of my teacher-friends just told me about it [16:09] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k4iZqbDsMs [16:09] Necos: lol I just saw it [16:09] there it is [16:09] damn everything is on the youtube... [16:09] its starburst not skittles :( [16:09] probably cause the internet isnt a truck [16:10] lf4: damnit, vinfail :( [16:10] ViN86: Hop aboard the Fail Train, enjoy the ride. :) [16:10] fire|bird: i have a frequent rider card [16:10] I live on it :) [16:10] gives me cash back [16:11] bootstrap (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:11] ViN86: Ah, good. You ride the rails often then. :P [16:11] fire|bird: is that a gay joke? ;P [16:11] lf4: Car #6, 5th door on the right, correct? [16:11] ViN86: OHGODNO [16:11] LOL [16:11] ViN86: is that the commercial? [16:11] does anyone here play sf4? [16:11] Necos: l4d has brought to my attentionthat that is not skittles... [16:11] sf4? [16:11] fire|bird: 6th door and I'm on the 6th bunk. [16:12] street fighter 4 [16:12] lf4: you would tell him the bunk too haha [16:12] sf4 is awesome [16:12] mrselfpwn (n=nemesysa@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: ":D" [16:12] missyjane: Ah, ok, heard of it, but not played it. [16:12] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [16:12] ViN86: Haha oh don't worry he'll still show up at your place for the jollies you want :P [16:12] Nick change: fire|bird -> sf4 [16:12] Hey lf4 :P [16:12] good, thought you were dippin into my sugar bowl [16:12] wait [16:12] what? [16:12] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:12] Haha [16:12] slackd00d (n=slackd00@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) joined ##slackware. [16:12] Necos, lol how do you get to multiplayer mode? it says "with this account this is not doable" or something like that [16:13] missyjane: stop pirating then [16:13] haha i kid i kid [16:13] missyjane: why should I feel sorry for him? [16:13] captine (n=captine@41.177.11.142) joined ##slackware. [16:13] lol [16:13] Because he's 'famous' ? [16:13] oh boy! fresh asperagus, i love that simmered in butter [16:13] straterra, youre jealous [16:13] Boo freaking hoo [16:13] i meant for the amount of work he does [16:13] Not really [16:13] he doesnt get paid [16:13] he does get paid tho... [16:13] Yes he does.. [16:13] i already went over this [16:13] i pay him monthly [16:13] Action: lf4 doesn't play games, but has been thinking about playing CS:S [16:14] Nick change: sf4 -> fire|bird [16:14] Action: ViN86 wants l4d to play css cause its fun [16:14] Do you think he lives in a cardboard box in east cleveland? [16:14] ViN86: I play CS:S [16:14] yes [16:14] straterra: under the interstate [16:14] ViN86: l4d? [16:14] you forgot that part [16:14] Hi all. sorry to hound. struggling to get apache to start (slack12.2). libapr-1.so.0 missing? [16:14] captine: do a full install [16:14] lf4: too many acronyms, damn that left 4 dead game lol [16:14] tried google, installed the lib-apr, but no luck [16:14] ViN86: Ahh my brother plays that. [16:15] captine, full install, problem solved [16:15] apr apr-util in your system? [16:15] ViN86: Whiches are freaky lol give me light! [16:15] straterra: I was trying to keep the system mimimalistic as possible? only downloaded CD 1 and 2 [16:15] lf4: lol yea [16:15] straterra: you play gun game? [16:15] xxjx (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/xxjx) left irc: "zzzz" [16:15] captine: not enough space or what? [16:16] Tried to dl the dvd last night, but my internet connection did. [16:16] ViN86: got the space, just not the bandwidth and dont want X etc. [16:16] Action: lf4 goes in hunt for food. [16:16] captine, get apr/apr-util off the "l" dir [16:16] httpd ? [16:16] ViN86: every now and then [16:16] Pig_Pen: Correct. [16:17] mostly deathmatch cause im just messing around [16:17] captine: any reason why you dont want X? [16:17] i mean, you could just not use it, right? (or am i more of a noob than i thought...) [16:17] straterra: i play gungame often, msg me your steam id, ill add you [16:17] if the "l" dir is not on cd 1 or 2 then you're gonna run into more trouble... [16:17] straterra [16:18] k [16:18] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSjfWNVdWjc&feature=related [16:19] straterra: added, nice pic btw lol [16:19] mancha, i tried that. still get the error [16:19] ty [16:19] i will be lurking while eating supper, grilled chicken, asperagus, baked potato with sourcream & a hint of garlicsalt [16:19] everyone runs faster with a knife btw [16:19] cigarettesmoker (n=nika@212.45.14.5) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:19] tried what? installing apr and apr-util? [16:19] apr-util [16:19] let me try apr. [16:20] this is fscking weird http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEsqELX5e4o&feature=related [16:20] damn, its been a year since the last pure pwnage episode... [16:21] anyone good with debugging smtp-problems? [16:21] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:21] mancha: got rid of that error. not getting another one. will need to work through it one by one. thanks [16:21] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:21] for the help [16:22] captine, install all the libs [16:22] I can't send any mails :( [16:22] so everything from "L"? [16:22] yeah, install all L [16:22] I can do that. [16:22] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:22] Cesarion76 (n=Miranda@200.69.251.233) joined ##slackware. [16:22] pprkut: sending mail is overrated ;) [16:23] sorry, i cant help though, i dont know anything about that [16:23] pprkut: Take up the lost art of letter writing? :P [16:23] if you can narrow it down it would help...does the client reach your mta? does the mta try to send the packet out? where's the foul-up? and what mta [16:24] fire|bird: he better do it quick before the USPS folds lol [16:24] invest in carrier pigeons [16:24] fire|bird: bah [16:24] cant say they didnt see it coming though, with email being free and all lol [16:24] haha [16:25] pprkut: What client do you use, and as mancha mentioned, can you narrow the issue down at all? [16:26] br00tal (n=Jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) joined ##slackware. [16:26] sending the mail over the web-interface works, so I know the server is up [16:26] it seems like any incoming smtp traffic is blocked somewhere [16:27] pprkut: do you need to authenticate on your smtp? [16:27] ie, I send SYN messages, but don't get any ACKs [16:27] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:28] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:28] maybe you need to auth-before-send as vin said ot else pull-before-send [16:28] used as anti-relay measures, sometimes [16:28] hm aboutu to install kbfx anyone use this? [16:28] it works on every network I've been before, just not now :/ [16:28] what if you telnet to port 25 of the server, do you get a greet? [16:28] no [16:28] missyjane: Tried in the past and didn't like it. :) [16:29] is the packet going out to the server? [16:29] besides, I'm on kde4 and like it's setup. [16:29] i.e. its not somefirewall on :25 outbound on your end right, its definitely itting the wire? [16:29] fire|bird, oh why not? [16:29] fire|bird: "dear mistar fire|ostridge, we must regretfully infoam you that teh lost art of letter wirting has been recoverd.. it was found under a small dog pooh in behind a closet in your living room, kthxbai!" [16:30] macavity: hahahahahahaha [16:30] missyjane: tbh, I can't remember, it's been a while since I tried it now. [16:30] kozandr (n=kozandr@81.95.131.133) joined ##slackware. [16:30] observe that i am not available for tech support atm.. i am running back and forth and side banding with my GF :P [16:31] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [16:31] lol [16:31] hm ok [16:31] macavity: inexcusable... [16:31] silmulcast ftw [16:32] ViN86: You'd rather he tech support than spend time with gf? insanity :P [16:32] you should see his gf :/ [16:32] fire|bird: what can i say? some are committed... [16:32] lol [16:32] haha [16:32] mancha: well, that's something I'm not sure about. It's definitely not blocked on my machine, but don't know about the router [16:32] Action: macavity looks mancha straight in the eyes... [16:33] you were saying? :P [16:33] mancha: How do you know that? :P [16:33] fire, idon't but it helped with my joke :) [16:33] lol [16:33] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:34] pprkut try to get a friend who has port 25 open to tell you if you can hit his port [16:34] i see why you dont like it [16:35] missyjane: lol, you installed it? [16:35] yup [16:35] :) [16:37] antiwire isnt here.. but he is just the kind of dude you want to involve in a quick round of over-the-WAN testing [16:37] fire|bird: That depends on a number of factors including: A) How good a cook she is, B) how good lookin' she is, C) how much "fun" she is to be around, and D) how much she talks. ;-) [16:37] Alan_Hicks: hahaha, good point(s) :) [16:37] C & D are inversely proportional [16:38] Alan_Hicks: my GF just started a very special fanclub for you.. expect "fan mail" en mass soon ;-) [16:38] mancha: Not entirely. [16:38] macavity: antiwire is right over there --------> [16:38] xxjx (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/xxjx) joined ##slackware. [16:38] macavity: hahaha [16:38] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:38] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) joined ##slackware. [16:39] macavity: can i join? [16:39] Alan_Hicks doesnt know it, but he is quickly climbing the ranks of my "favorite persons" list [16:39] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:39] he is currently 199, behind the bushwhackers from the WWF [16:40] lol [16:40] Bushwhackers were posers. [16:40] if he beats bam bam bigelow, he will move up quickly [16:40] The Road Warriors are the *real* tag team champions! [16:40] alright you just slid pack to 210 [16:40] *back [16:41] And BBB was alright in his day, but I always liked the Cuban Suplex Machine, Taz better. [16:41] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:41] ViN86: are there any list of the criterias somewhere? i'd like to see if i can make it to the top :P [16:41] *is [16:42] macavity: well a cool haircut is probably number 1 way to move up [16:42] for example, this guy is number 10 currently: http://www.burchwords.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/haircut.jpg [16:42] Action: macavity displays his fearsome array of high maintanense [and fashion adhering] head fur [16:43] ViN86: like this: http://blog.eches.net/images/0107/haircut.jpg [16:43] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [16:43] fire|bird: that guy just moved to number 9 [16:43] lol [16:43] where was he before? [16:44] oh man! priceless [16:44] ViN86: what about: http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1361/709138377_7cabce0142.jpg [16:44] That's hilarious. [16:44] rworkman: what is the slackware logo on lq about? where's it supposed to appear? [16:44] id walk backwards all week if i had that hair due [16:44] That reminds me of those Indian tribal people that wear masks on the back of their heads to scare tigers away. [16:44] fire|bird: he wasnt even on the list [16:44] macavity: haha, no doubt. [16:44] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [16:44] now you see how important a cool haircut is [16:44] ViN86: Oh wow, what a jump [16:45] number two is having the oldest computer hardware possible [16:45] that kid isnt old enough to make the list btw lol [16:45] ViN86: http://www.guy-sports.com/fun_pictures/hair_football.jpg [16:46] ViN86: i have a descrete 387 the size of a belt buckle somewhere [16:46] last question for the night (I hope). Anyone running slack 64 for servers? is there a big performance improvement? Always found slackware to be rather nippy for what i need? [16:46] discrete even [16:46] rg3: well, no it isn't working :/ It *should* be down there by the LQ penguin. [16:46] fire|bird: if that soccer ball were dollar signs instead he'd have a chance [16:46] Cesarion76 (n=Miranda@200.69.251.233) left irc: "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org" [16:46] and that discrete 387 is sweet lol [16:46] rworkman: ooh, the one in the corner of the user info for each post? [16:47] captine, i believe the benchmarks 32 vs 64 depend on the kin of operation the cpu does [16:47] Evil_Tux (n=tux@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "leaving" [16:47] agentc0re|work: check this out: http://i26.tinypic.com/10scfip.png [16:47] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: "leaving" [16:47] I built the dev version [16:48] rg3: and now it *is* there in my post to say that it isn't. WTF? [16:48] mancha; so for media encoding, 64bit would be better. for proxy/webserver/fileshare, 32 would do the job ? [16:48] rg3: yes [16:48] ViN86: i snapped off all the pins and soldered a bend copper rod to it, so now it functions as a key ring [16:48] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:48] antiwire: Have you tested that at all, a/v wise? [16:48] macavity: lol you should sell those [16:48] ViN86: ... because i was unsucsessfull in drilling a hole in the corner (and trust me, i tried!) [16:48] fire|bird: I've tested 2.6.1 released version with dive, hipo, agentc0re but it's not stable at all [16:48] antiwire: doh, i block it.. :P thank goodness i control the checkbox.. :P [16:48] haven't tested the dev version yet because I don't know anyone else using it [16:48] antiwire: yeah, I mean that dev version. [16:49] captine it's not as simple as that...it depends onthe breakdown of addressing and other ops [16:49] antiwire: /lil'john voice.. WHHOOOOOO WHAT??? [16:49] agentc0re|work: that's a new plugin that 2.6.1 doesn't have [16:49] mancha, i will assume that given i dont know what you are talking about, that 32bit will meet my needs :) [16:49] ; [16:49] ;) [16:49] thanks [16:49] antiwire: is that your system? [16:49] yeah [16:50] Oh well. Afk to home. :) [16:50] rworkman: ping me when you get there [16:50] i went through and installed monotone so i could pull the dev version [16:50] antiwire: k, i'll build it when i get home. (You will build it when you get home) [16:50] rworkman: .. if you have the time [16:50] I will.. [16:50] macavity: ok, might be a while, but sure [16:50] captine, if you have lots of memory and want to use it well use 64 [16:50] (If you build it, you will have voice...) [16:50] rworkman: i wont go away ;-) [16:50] lol [16:50] antiwire: So what's extra? [16:50] antiwire: btw, arecord works fine for me, I had to switch my mic to the jack on the back of the pc instead of the front break out box. [16:51] mancha: or if you have the need for higher accuracy computations [16:51] thats why i use it :/ [16:51] rworkman: i am trapped inside an irssi .pl extention anyways [16:51] captine, media encoding, mathematical computation does better in 64 [16:51] agentc0re|work: well for one, that plugin isn't in 2.6.1 and i was idling in #pidgin and already a bunch of things have been fixed [16:51] mancha: athlon 64 3800+ with 2 gig ram. by lot of memory, i assume u talking 8gig an up [16:51] captine: 4GB too [16:51] 32-bit will only address like 3.5GB or something in there... [16:52] i meant 4+ gigs. but also depends on how much math intensivity you gonna have (crypto, media encoding, other math-heavy stuff) [16:52] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [16:52] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [16:52] ViN86: thanks. mancha , i would want it to do media encoding, altho most of that i do on my mac. [16:52] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Client Quit [16:52] Let me give the 32bit a bash, and see how it goes [16:52] where does slack keep a list of packages installed? [16:52] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [16:52] /var/log/packages/* [16:53] thanks [16:53] v4nelle (n=van@adsl71-112.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:53] yesyes, try "yes yes" at bash [16:53] was looking in cache for some reason [16:53] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:53] mancha: second person to tell me to do that recently ;) [16:53] i was also the first, i enjoyed your reaction the first time [16:53] was hoping for an encore [16:54] heh [16:55] samuelig (n=samuelig@94.pool85-57-129.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:55] Nick change: chb -> chb|bauen [16:55] mmm. mysql isnt starting. Last time i worked with Slackware was about 6 years ago. Wish i could remember. [16:55] mancha: didnt work out did it? lol [16:56] captine: i used to have to pass a command at startup to get mysqld working right... [16:56] nope, it crashed & burned, fail++ [16:56] captine: did you read the mysql rc script? [16:56] cant remember the command.... [16:56] antiwire: just getting to that. read somewhere that i must copy another file over the rc.mysql script. [16:56] will see [16:57] whoa whoa [16:57] captine: http://bytes.com/topic/mysql/answers/141924-mysql-wont-start-errors-out-after-installing-slackware [16:57] ? [16:57] just read the rc script before you blow it away... [16:57] gotto get to bed. darn day job requires my eyes to be open. Thanks for the help. Will def be back. Thanks ViN86 . going there now [16:57] captine (n=captine@41.177.11.142) left irc: "Cheers for now." [16:58] anyone recently updated sbopkg, only to find an rsync error, complaining about no 13.0 dir? [16:58] that mysql thing bothered me like crazy a while back [16:58] we should make a conf file for that script... and if the user hasnt read somewhere in the documentation to add the line "configured = yes-i-did-read-it", the rc.mysql should refuse to start... [16:58] nevermind, just changed the version in sbopkg to 12.2. [16:58] CapitalisTux (n=adrien@kami.via.ecp.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:59] I was thinking this was far too quiet [16:59] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) joined ##slackware. [16:59] yesyes: beware that a good portion of the KDE stuff refuses to compile [16:59] s0d0 (n=john@host86-175-193-86.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:59] macavity: yea a google search usually turns up a couple thousand results too lol [16:59] antiwire: Oh sorry, i mean what is extra (or minus) to the build list? still requiring everything before? [17:00] i get 11900 results lol [17:00] ViN86: I'm wondering something, and maybe you can help me out here. [17:00] ViN86: yes.. and that is the problem.. people use google and just see "ah just add configured = yes-i-did-read-it to rc.mysql.conf" [17:00] ViN86: Can you post more than say.... 5 lines without saying "lol" once? [17:00] .. and we still get them in here.. [17:00] alien are u here? [17:00] Alan_Hicks: maybe... [17:00] lol [17:00] no [17:00] Channel flood from ViN86 -- kicking [17:00] i failed [17:00] ViN86 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [17:00] YES! [17:01] Score one for the plowboy! [17:01] ViN86 (i=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-EIGHTY-THREE.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [17:01] wd_: if you want him to react you need to refference him by full name [17:01] agentc0re|work: With the dev build, I had to run 'autogen.sh --disable-nm --disable-meanwhile' and then I built a tarball out of the mtn directory and just modified the Slackware build scripts for version -mtn [17:01] macavity: thanks, but i'm just using it to install openoffice. [17:01] I'm noobfarming this; I don't care if it is my own handiwork. [17:01] wd_: otherwise his irc client wont pull his sleve :P [17:02] agentc0re|work: everything else, i kept the same [17:02] Alan_Hicks: youre still climbing my favorite persons list btw [17:02] Alan_Hicks: while you are over at noobfarm, look up Neo_The_User and have a blast! ;-) [17:02] macavity: i c. i just wanted to thank him for the writeup on combining lvm with luks. [17:03] wd_: yes, that is a very consise and enabling document [17:03] Action: macavity cant spell [17:04] spelling is overrated, syntax is all that matters [17:04] wd_: I believe he is on vacation or something. Hasn't been around for several days. [17:04] fire|bird: re, fire|ostridge: http://codgus.com/images/ostridge.jpg [17:04] actually that one is rather cool :P [17:04] macavity: i followed it and it was precise, i failed one time and was about to ask here but i realized i didn't add my /boot partition. [17:05] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-14-219.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [17:05] anyone here use dropbox? [17:05] wd_: yes, i omitted a step in my first attempt too [17:05] kozandr (n=kozandr@81.95.131.133) left irc: No route to host [17:05] macavity: I'd appreciate it if you'd ask before you took pictures. :P [17:05] macavity: question. i notice it boots slower in the early stages checking the initrd i think is this normal? [17:05] ViN86: yet-another-1337-window-manager-with-plenty-of-speed-but-no-features? [17:06] aghori (n=ditty@92.0.126.202) joined ##slackware. [17:06] twimc I answered my own question about automounting memory sticks as a user - a good hint is at http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/i-need-a-better-way-to-mount-in-kde-555812/?highlight=memory+stick+automount [17:06] wd_: are you using the "compact" option in lilo? [17:06] macavity: http://www.getdropbox.com/ [17:06] free 2GB, linux client works well too [17:06] macavity: no. what's that? [17:06] ViN86: license? [17:06] I think that damn router will cost me hundreds of hours :( [17:06] nothing's free like that what's the catch [17:07] good question... heh [17:07] wd_: it is an option that makes lilo group sector reads, thus loading the initrd faster [17:07] psyl0n (n=_@nat/ibm.br/x-klpldyylodxuhfdc) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:07] macavity: http://www.getdropbox.com/terms [17:08] macavity: ok [17:08] do they data mine you out the yin yang? [17:08] mancha: They'd be fools not to. [17:09] macavity: they don't own your files if you put em on the site, but they have access to them [17:09] vpn and samba ftw. [17:09] macavity: oh yeah does all 2.6 kernels need an initrd? i installed slack 10.2 on my toshiba 400cs laptop and when i installed a 2.6 kernel it wouldn't boot i'm wondering if it's a initrd thing. [17:09] wd_: no [17:10] antiwire: hey hows it going. ok. [17:10] wd_: Not unless your kernel lacks support for something, or if you're using LVM, mdadm, etc. [17:10] the Slackware huge kernel doesn't need an initrd but if you are using luks or LVM you do [17:10] antiwire: i c ok [17:10] Alan_Hicks: ok [17:10] Action: missyjane wants to know what everybodys desktop looks like [17:10] not necessarily LVM alone though, but luks requires an initrd [17:11] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-27-250.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:11] nvm i asked [17:11] macavity: this was an easy tutorial i looked at gentoo's and said forget it. [17:12] yay everyone i switched from gentoo to slackware officially...no more wasting another 7 years emerging... haha even tho i get twitches to go back. [17:13] damn java and flash is giving me hell in slack. [17:13] Action: Alan_Hicks has a boring lookin' desktop. [17:14] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "leaving" [17:14] missyjane: http://chopp.homelinux.com/tmp/screenshot.jpg [17:15] http://imagebin.org/61090 here ya go missyjane [17:15] macavity: so now that this crypt setup is done you mean if take the hd out and mount it under another box i shouldn't read it right? :) [17:15] Nick change: C00re_ -> C00re [17:15] you'll read it, but you won't like what you read [17:15] wow beautiful background Pig_Pen [17:15] mancha: :) [17:16] chopp: your server is as slow as a turtle [17:16] wd_: it will not mount without knowing the luks passphrase and using cryptsetup to unlock it first. [17:16] mancha: totally jibberish? [17:16] chopp, your server gives me a 80 [17:16] antiwire: ok [17:16] i would upload my desktop to slackwaregallery, but it always says 'cannot move the picture' when i try to upload [17:16] Pig_Pen: you draw that? [17:16] Pig_Pen: yeah it's busy :P [17:16] mount simply won't let it happen and even if you tried to read it with dd would be encrypted. [17:16] wd_: just a sec.. [17:16] that is a E.F. Escher drawing [17:16] wd unless you can decrypt aes mentally on the fly [17:16] aghori (n=ditty@92.0.126.202) left irc: "Leaving" [17:17] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: "leaving" [17:17] mancha: yay. [17:17] i feel so safe. [17:17] make that M.C. Escher, damn you E.F. Hutton [17:18] now, since there's no plausible deniability, it'll take igor roughly 3 and half minutes to get you to spill the key [17:18] mancha: hah [17:18] ml4711 (n=morten@0x50a6aad2.rdnxx1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:18] wd_: This type of encryption only protects the system from a physical attack. you can still get owned over the network and an intruder can read files just fine that way while the system is running and unlocked. [17:18] mancha: what about a random generated one possible? [17:19] Alan_Hicks: find your desktop boring? there's always worse: http://omploader.org/vMjZuNA ;) [17:19] antiwire: oh crap. [17:19] chb|bauen (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [17:19] ml4711 (n=morten@0x50a6aad2.rdnxx1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:19] sure, but then you'll be locked out too. you can have luks randomize on each usage [17:19] wd_: ? [17:19] mrselfpw1 (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-glicqdfuscxqeecy) left irc: "leaving" [17:19] wd_: this is how disk based encryption works [17:19] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-utyclqconjucxwdp) joined ##slackware. [17:19] after the volume is unlocked it's readable... [17:19] missyjane Pig_Pen http://imagebin.org/61091 [17:19] http://www.mcescher.com/Gallery/back-bmp/LW327.jpg missyjane [17:19] how would you be able to read the files without unlocking it and mounting the volume? [17:20] ic [17:20] chopp, hm nice [17:20] Pig_Pen, why is there a box that says job? [17:20] antiwire: so now i have to worry about being owned online. [17:20] crap [17:21] wd_: The whole concept behind disk based encryption it to prevent a thief or system examiner from reading files off the disk if the system is ever taken out of your physical control. [17:21] mancha: I can connect to an smtp server from a remote host, but not from my local machine [17:21] mancha: I suspect either router or internet provider now :/ [17:21] antiwire: i can deal with that. [17:21] that is a package of rolling papers, maybe Escher liked to smoke [17:21] wd_: if someone steals it while it is on and unlocked you're still screwed. [17:21] antiwire: i c. [17:21] ok so you're getting blocked on your end (by your end i mean your routers or you) [17:22] fred (n=fred@slamd64/fred) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:22] fred (n=fred@phoenix.slamd64.com) joined ##slackware. [17:22] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-14-219.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware ("Fades out Slowly"). [17:22] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-14-219.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [17:22] i wonder what was in the bottle with the cork in it [17:22] Nick change: fred -> Guest25327 [17:23] is blocking 25getting to be more common among isp's to cut down on relay spam? [17:24] / [17:24] it's good practice anyway [17:25] antiwire: Future versions of Slackware may support USB sticks as unlocking [17:25] mechanism. [17:26] antiwire: how far into the future? lol [17:26] wd_: I don't know [17:26] you can have a luks usb tumbkey [17:26] thumb [17:27] mancha: yeah but old pII and PIII won't boot from usb.... oh darn it. [17:27] mancha: i'll google that install. [17:27] mancha: for my laptop. [17:27] you don't boot from the usb [17:27] you don't need to boot from the usb stick [17:27] mancha: antiwire: i c [17:27] ok [17:28] the initrd needs USB support and needs to know to look for a key on the usb device [17:29] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-29-232.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:29] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [17:29] v4nelle (n=van@adsl71-112.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:29] antiwire: ok so during the mkinitrd i give an option to support usb? [17:30] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:30] well the system needs a way to mount the USB stick during the initrd initialization so that crypsetup can read the key from it [17:30] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:30] antiwire: but hopefully when i put the usb in the initrd will see the usb, isn't that part done after the kernel rolls a bit? [17:30] antiwire: ok [17:30] so the initrd needs USB support and a method to mount USB devices [17:30] antiwire: oh my. got some reading to do. haha. [17:31] is that something you really want? think about it. the key to unlock your system is floating around on a USB stick. That's far less secure than only you knowing the passphrase [17:32] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:32] antiwire: ur right. [17:32] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [17:32] antiwire: i guess this and gpg for really serious files and data is all i need. [17:32] ? [17:32] antiwire: or is gpg overkill [17:33] how is storing the key on a USB stick going to make it safer for very serial files? [17:33] serious [17:33] it only adds another device you can lose and all i need to do is knock your ass out and take the USB stick instead of torture you for hours to get the passphrase... [17:33] antiwire: if i'm asked to unlock it.. ooops the key is on a usb "mr thief" and i lost it. [17:34] ... [17:34] what the... [17:34] >.> [17:34] antiwire: nvmind.... [17:34] antiwire: tortue will do the trick...oh antiwire damn u. i'm trying to find a way. [17:35] lol [17:35] adding devices only makes the system more complex and the more complex the system is, the easier it is to find holes. [17:35] antiwire: yeah ur right. [17:35] if it is serious data the safest place for the key in your brain. [17:35] antiwire: i love it. [17:35] antiwire: ty. [17:36] granted http://xkcd.com/538/ [17:36] antiwire: well at least i know if my laptop get stolen the data is safe. [17:36] wd_ I was on a wan that used a usb device as a key - I still had to log in with my pw - but the key encrypteded the whole session and changed every 2 sec [17:36] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425457.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:37] that's called random token [17:37] antiwire: LOL. That's what i'd do. [17:37] antiwire: i like ur cartoon. haha [17:37] antiwire++ ^.^ [17:37] oh man. [17:37] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [17:38] the flipside to that comic is that if you tell them "oh sorry it's on a USB key and I don't have it" they beat you anyway and destroy your house [17:38] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [17:38] antiwire: yep. [17:38] and eat your babies [17:38] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:40] Nick change: Guest25327 -> fred [17:40] wd_: the separated key file makes more sense for sensitive archive data. You keep the archive in a secret or secured place and you keep the key dongle in a different secured place. [17:40] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:40] for secured data that needs to be unlocked often, the USB key just adds another possible hole [17:41] antiwire: ic. oh ok. [17:41] the hole possibly being in your skull after the aforementioned xkcd comic [17:42] macro (n=macro@bas5-montreal19-1279569426.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:42] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:42] Necos: yikes. [17:42] http://xkcd.com/627/ hehe, that explains my job process. :D [17:43] figabo (n=figabo@189.186.33.45) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:43] wd_: why are you surprised? [17:43] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "caindo fora!" [17:43] you know, the more unneeded security you add to something, the more attractive it becomes to theives [17:44] lol [17:44] imma print two of those for my parents agentc0re|work [17:44] I'm tempted to default it to the new official work background for everyone here. [17:45] agentc0re|work: haha [17:45] agentc0re|work: lol [17:46] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.172.42) left irc: "leaving" [17:46] seriously wd_, you need to be practical in your security measures [17:46] Nick change: phzin -> ped_ [17:46] test [17:46] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.82.69) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:46] awesome! [17:47] roaming works perfeclty [17:47] Necos: ok. thanks i'm reading more. [17:47] perfeclty [17:47] .. [17:47] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "leaving" [17:47] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw8dcb8iKSM [17:47] ped_ (n=RScript@189.57.19.89) left irc: [17:48] http://xkcd.com/624/ <---- lol [17:49] Necos: ok. tell me what you suggest in my security measures. [17:49] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [17:49] chthp (n=Christia@213-66-224-97-no22.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:49] depends on what the application is, obviously... it's never been a one-size-fits-all [17:50] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [17:50] http://xkcd.com/619/ [17:50] Necos: first for a file server. second for a general purpose laptop. [17:50] lol a common slacker problem [17:50] chthp (n=Christia@213-66-224-97-no22.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware. [17:50] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:51] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [17:52] >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Fantastique/vampire.gif [17:52] lol [17:53] well, disable all services you don't need. set iptables to log and drop all unrelated traffic. that's a good start for a file server in a corporate environment [17:53] this is fredoslack http://i28.tinypic.com/213odxy.jpg [17:53] Necos: ok [17:53] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:53] antiwire, looool [17:53] S74N70 (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:54] laptop... heh, why would i secure a laptop? you keep that shit at home and access it via ssh :P [17:55] Necos: cool suggestion. ok. [17:55] wd_: The reason I encrypt my laptop's disk is for 1) traveling 2) theft [17:55] All I lose is hardware (provided the system is off when it is taken from me) [17:55] antiwire: yeah me too just wanted to hear what Necos suggested. [17:56] antiwire: true. [17:56] antiwire: true, but if you don't have any sensitive data on there, you're not losing much in the first place [17:56] ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc1PzvcBmP4 Truck running over a tree at work [17:56] (except the hardware really) [17:56] If I had nothing sensitive I wouldn't encrypt it thought [17:56] though [17:56] kind of my point :P [17:57] straterra: lol [17:57] you have to craft your security practices to the situation [17:57] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [17:59] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Client Quit [17:59] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [18:00] i have to download youtube stuff 'cause it's too slow to stream thru my proxy lol [18:01] thanks guys gotta go read some more. [18:01] wd_ (n=wd@adsl-71-137-252-219.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:02] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. 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[18:10] missyjane, hi [18:10] i've got a new smiley lol [18:10] >> http://www.premiumorange.com/fredoslack/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=32 [18:11] y0 fredoslack [18:11] :p [18:11] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [18:11] ree fire|bird =) [18:11] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [18:12] br00tal (n=Jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) left irc: "Leaving." [18:12] evening fire|bird and fredoslack :) [18:12] hu CapitalisTux =) [18:12] wb missyjane [18:12] Action: CapitalisTux backstabs fire|bird [18:12] and off to bed :P [18:12] evil tux >.> [18:13] y0 CapitalisTux [18:13] night CapitalisTux [18:13] :P [18:13] hi fredoslack, thanks Necos [18:13] wb missyjane [18:14] hmmmm... [18:14] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:14] he died [18:14] probably because I stabbed him [18:14] playing with his new router [18:14] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [18:15] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-14-219.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:16] gemcat (n=GEM@207-119-14-219.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [18:16] cuba33ci (i=cuba33ci@118-168-233-62.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [18:16] fire|bird: so the new router improve your internet conection? [18:16] s/conection/connection [18:16] antiwire, if someone stole my linux computer how could they ever recover any of my data without my passwords? I can recover windows data but in linux it is useless [18:17] lf4: Well, I'm on it right now, so..... :P I'm just setting things up. [18:17] lf4: When I've disappeared is to restart the router from setting certain things. [18:17] you mean it's not permenant? :( [18:18] hulu wont play atm; dont know why [18:18] wsp4th (i=wsp4th@208.88.85.160) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:18] fire|bird: haha funny why not set it up before putting it in to production? [18:18] because he likes to live on the edge [18:18] Star Wars on Spike.tv now. [18:18] gemcat: what? [18:18] Necos: more like anooying lol [18:19] lf4: It's not annoying, it doesn't take that long. :P [18:19] gemcat: if they were clever they could use a live CD that allows read/write of all partitions [18:19] gemcat: if your system isn't encrypted and I get your linux laptop I have all your data... [18:19] What the heck lol I just ran the color script and now everyone's names are alternanting colors. :/ [18:19] Does Xorg have the capability to not tie up tty1 (or whatever tty you started it from) to print status messages so that the X-window comes up in th same tty that you called 'startx' from? [18:19] what if all my data is bible related? [18:19] lf4: haha [18:19] SiegeX startx& [18:19] http://www.surrealgirl.com/awesome3.png [18:19] you guys like? [18:19] fire|bird: who said it was annoying you ;) [18:20] missyjane: too plane for my tastes, but it works. :) [18:20] lf4: nobody [18:20] plain?! how? [18:20] Quiznos: so with 'startx&' on tty1, and my .xinitrc calling 'xterm' should also come up in tty1? [18:20] whoops, s/plane/plain/ [18:20] gemcat: I don't need your linux password to get your data if it's not encrypted. Same goes for Windows systems. [18:20] missyjane: eww xchat :P [18:20] SiegeX i think you're concerned about env-vars; exported vars are inherited iinm [18:20] lol [18:21] fire|bird: haha well!! its annoying me haha just kidding. [18:21] missyjane: just no wallpaper, no desklets or anything. When I'm done with this router setup, I'll ss my desktop. :P [18:21] figabo (n=figabo@189.186.33.45) joined ##slackware. [18:21] lf4: I'll show you annoying, I have to restart again now, dayum. :P [18:21] Quiznos: my problem concerns env vars? [18:21] IMO [18:22] fire|bird: Haha NOOOO... [18:22] SiegeX any more info on your situ? [18:22] missyjane: need more color :) [18:22] Quiznos: i just want xorg to not tie up the tty i called startx from to print status messages i dont care about. [18:22] lf4: You ever heard of just not thinking things through before? Well, that's what happened here so...... [18:22] missyjane: What wm are you using? [18:22] SiegeX ok... pondering [18:22] SiegeX: wtf are you talking about? just banish them to /dev/null [18:22] SiegeX [xdk]dm [18:22] Quiznos: we are trying to migrate from an SCO Unix box which has this behavior [18:22] k [18:23] fire|bird: You have two computers... connect one to the modem, and the other to the router configure the router and then impliment it :P haha [18:23] Necos yea but that's not "clean" [18:23] lf4, guess [18:23] startx >/dev/null 2>&1 [18:23] Necos: i tried startx 2> /dev/null &; and it still opened up the window in tt6 [18:23] missyjane: Wincows :P [18:23] nmo [18:23] no [18:23] guess i should try sending stdout there too [18:24] lf4: Well ok Mr. KnowItAll :P [18:24] SiegeX why wont a .dm work for ya? [18:24] fire|bird: I know ;) [18:25] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.39.185) joined ##slackware. [18:25] Necos: noper, still starts xterm in tty6 (i have something on tty5) [18:25] I feel a RAV coming on. [18:25] SiegeX why wont a [gkx]dm work? [18:26] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:26] SiegeX see bash's disown (via help) [18:26] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [18:27] lf4: Alright, happy? :P [18:27] that your back? no not really :P haha [18:27] lf4: I'm on the lappy, no more restarts, now leave me alone. :P [18:27] Quiznos: not real sure about a display manager, never really set one up before. I don't use X often and when i do its KDE/GNOME. Was hoping it was less involved than that. [18:27] Action: lf4 gives fire|bird a cookie :) [18:28] SiegeX i think a dm would simplify rather well!!! [18:28] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-162-243.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [18:28] lf4: \o/ [18:29] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [18:29] greetings dive [18:29] aha! startx -- vt1 did the trick [18:29] Action: fire|bird hands lf4 a super-sized cookie. [18:29] SiegeX kool [18:29] Action: lf4 gets a glass of milk. [18:29] SiegeX now why all the connipptions? [18:29] evening fire|bird, how goes? [18:30] darn it this script messed up irssi :| [18:30] high ^dive [18:30] hey dive, I pulled the monotone version of pidgin and it has a new plugin http://i26.tinypic.com/10scfip.png [18:30] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.145.23) joined ##slackware. [18:30] dive: excellent, got my wifi router now. :D [18:30] Quiznos: in order to ease the transition over to Linux from SCO Unix. Want to make the transition as trasparent as possible [18:30] nice [18:30] lf4: I'm done with config now. :D [18:30] i git a used 5port hub today [18:30] \o/ [18:30] git/got [18:31] dive: I just finished setting it up, for now, I suppose as I learn more with it, I'll have to change some things. :P [18:31] Quiznos: nice, i had to use one of those to test a server once. [18:31] geted [18:31] Quiznos: some of these people have been using this SCO box for like 20yrs, they don't like change. If it's something I can easily accomdate I will, otherwise they have to adapt. [18:31] antiwire, any improvement? [18:31] ty 10$us; 40$ new [18:31] dive: dunno since no one else has the dev version lol [18:31] guitarman (n=guitarma@s207-216-242-139.bc.hsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [18:31] dive: but it sure looks cool [18:31] ;) [18:31] SiegeX kool [18:32] Dominian: ping ping ping [18:32] Dominian: i got something badass to show you [18:34] fire|bird1 (n=fire|bir@173-17-137-231.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [18:34] titopoquito (n=tito@p508EFB85.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:35] fire|bird1 (n=fire|bir@173-17-137-231.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. [18:37] slag! [18:39] stfu sandwich boy [18:39] makos (n=makos@dsl54009D85.pool.t-online.hu) joined ##slackware. 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[18:45] seems lagd but not [18:46] :P [18:46] work, work, work :P [18:46] i expect this kind of CRAZY talk in a ubuntu , in a SLACKWARE channel we're a bit more civilized , our conversations consist of whose dingle berry is bigger and how nuns with guns look hot [18:47] wow xsamurai now that is to advanced for me. [18:47] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:47] xsamurai, some of these silly demigods are actually employed :) [18:48] john_dee (n=id@93-81-141-157.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [18:48] http://xkcd.com/624/ ha ha ha [18:48] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [18:49] xsamurai lol; dingle? how HStern of you :) [18:49] it does get alil warped in here sometimes [18:49] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [18:49] Guest17533 (n=stig@cpc2-tref4-2-0-cust399.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: "leaving" [18:52] haha agentc0re|work I like the most recent one http://xkcd.com/627/ [18:54] lf4: Well, I got it all configed, now just trying to get the lappy connected to it. :P [18:54] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [18:54] fire|bird: just plug it in :P [18:55] lf4: It's wireless, I want it connected wirelessly. :P [18:55] can it be wired? [18:55] It can, yes. [18:55] brb [18:55] fire|bird: wireless is to advanced it seems. haha [18:55] Oh shaddup [18:55] :P [18:55] lol [18:55] brb [18:55] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [18:56] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: ""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."" [18:56] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:57] anyway I am still not worried about encrypting my unfinished sf novel - or broken html ;) [18:57] Get your skanky grandaddy out of my manhood! [18:58] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [18:58] ARGH [18:58] you mean ARGV[]; ? [18:58] lol [18:58] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [18:58] Yo bro! Did you just slap my grandaddy? [18:59] I set the router to WPA2 and it keeps going back to WPA [18:59] stig (n=stig@cpc2-tref4-2-0-cust399.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:59] acidchild: yeah, but he asked for it. :) [18:59] :P [18:59] I smokin' my gat! That's crazy! [18:59] Get your janky momma out of my head! [18:59] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:59] Why don't you get yo head away from my janky momma? :) [18:59] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [19:00] s [19:00] gemcat (n=GEM@207-119-14-219.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware ("Fades out Slowly"). [19:00] I'm going to get loco on dat chickenhead with my saggy pants. My nizzle! [19:00] antiwire: If it keeps going back to WPA from WPA2, does that mean that something doesn't support wpa2? [19:00] acidchild: hahaha [19:00] I'm going to cut off her nose and feed it to my fool. [19:00] depends on the mode, is it set to mixed? [19:01] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [19:01] fire|bird: welcome to the 21st century haha and wireless. [19:01] antiwire: Well, this is the first router I've ever configured, mixed what? (sorry) [19:01] lf4: haha, thanks, it's great to be here, but I WILL NOT be enjoying my stay. :P [19:02] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [19:02] Once a baby's momma, always a baby's momma. Oh hells naw! [19:02] it's 1 am and i don't wanna sleep :/ [19:02] i hope i'm making you all oh so wise. [19:02] fire|bird: Don't worry I didnt enjoy it either. [19:02] antiwire: in the web-interface config, it's Authentication Method that I try setting to WPA2 and it keeps going back to WPA [19:03] save to nvram and reboot? [19:03] whoa, someone else just fired up their router, a belkin, and it's NOT encrypted. :O [19:03] i did [19:03] like my bits? [19:04] Quiznos: get your bits away from me. :P [19:04] tell em to encrypt that crap [19:04] NO [19:04] I don't know who it is [19:04] Only a mofo knows what's up with the pants. [19:04] belkin 54g [19:04] heh [19:04] :O [19:04] haha, i dunno why i'm so amused by these [19:04] Yo, give me your forty before I get crazy on your dumb teeth. <-- wtf? [19:04] Quiznos: signal quality is 51, they're a little ways away. [19:05] you using wpa [19:05] fire|bird and you have a multidirectional antenna? [19:05] can't you look at the debug? [19:05] Quiznos: just the one that came with the router, are they usually miltidirectional? [19:05] multi* [19:06] acidchild: Hmm, I can look at logs with it I think, sec. [19:06] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:06] generally a single wire would recieve from any direction [19:06] xsamurai (n=munki@pool-71-106-233-110.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving." [19:06] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [19:06] but a fractally designed (bent) wire would recieve better waves [19:06] lets see if this nickcolor works [19:07] Get your pasty old man out of my face! [19:07] haha, no friggen wonder my lappy won't connect, would help if I configured the router to accept the connection. :/ [19:07] not really [19:07] fire|bird: Which router did you get? [19:07] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [19:07] lf4: ASUS WL-520GC [19:08] By the time I get this all figured out, I'm gonna be bald|bird :/ [19:08] then you can be just like me :D [19:08] lol [19:09] lf4: OHGODWHY?!?!?!?!? [19:10] ping dive [19:10] !basename [19:10] wrong chan [19:10] lol [19:10] Which would I want here for access, based on ip or mac? I need help. :/ [19:10] mac unless you are going to use staic IP's. [19:10] whats the diff? [19:11] not that it really matters lo [19:11] lf4: ok, now to find the mac for my lappy. :/ [19:11] ifconfig |grep HWaddr [19:11] lol [19:12] nyao~~ [19:12] antiwire: on the lappy, with iwlist wlan0 scan, it does show both WPA and WPA2, does that mean anything? [19:12] lf4: stop lol'ing, it's forbidden. [19:13] Action: lf4 laughts out loud at fire|bird :P [19:13] lf4: QUIET, I can't hear the voices in my head. :/ [19:13] fire|bird: Just tell them to yell louder [19:13] lolololololololollololololololololooloolololoolooolllooolllooollloool [19:14] all quiet now [19:14] person (n=ed@92.18.162.107) left irc: "Leaving." [19:14] hahaha [19:14] lf4: There's several, which one do I tell? [19:14] thrice` (i=thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) joined ##slackware. [19:14] fire|bird: local unsecured wifi? not good... http://xkcd.com/341/ [19:15] put the announcement on twitter and wait for netcraft to confirm it [19:15] eviljames: hey stranger :P [19:15] fire|bird: just do an ifconfig then look for wlan0 and look for the HWaddr that way. [19:15] hey thrice` [19:15] eviljames: hahaha, nice link [19:16] hi lf4 :> [19:16] lf4: I got it already [19:16] Hey thrice` [19:16] How is everything? [19:16] antiwire: [19:16] good, you? [19:16] do you have a minute? [19:16] thrice`: just in time to watch me go insane. :/ I got my router today, wifi. :P [19:16] :D good luck [19:16] haha, thanks. [19:16] yay; star wars AND a show here! [19:16] w00hoo [19:17] Quiznos: you can't see it, you didn't buy a ticket. [19:17] is balding promised? [19:17] haha [19:17] pff; i got a bit feed from you! [19:17] brb [19:17] thrice`: Doing well, just bugging fire|bird :) [19:17] thrice`: yeah, make him stop, please? :P [19:17] Action: lf4 pokes fire|bird [19:17] brb [19:17] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "I'm Leaving" [19:18] haha guess i anooyed him enough. [19:20] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@173-18-58-61.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [19:20] Guess who's back, back again. :P [19:21] fire|bird, what kind of router? [19:21] Michael Jackson! [19:21] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:22] Elvis! [19:22] fire|bird: rockin the wifi? [19:22] More like its owning him. [19:22] brb, food [19:22] is dead SCO ? [19:23] maxote: SCO is pretty much a zombie at this point. [19:23] is bankrupt SCO ? [19:23] Not quite dead, not quite alive, in some scary nebulous half-dead state and hungry for brains. [19:23] best to stay away from SCO altogether at present. [19:24] what about the claim of $600 per cpu now? [19:25] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [19:26] slackytude|evil (n=slacky@p54A73541.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:26] WTF I hadn't heard about that! [19:27] sco never proved that any unix code is in Linux so, that issue is already put to rest [19:27] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:27] rworkman: you around? [19:28] i don't understand the post-mortem businesses of SCO [19:28] eviljames: heh, more like the wifi is rockin me. :/ [19:28] SCO is a non-issue until/unless they go into Chapter 7 bankruptcy and some one buys their alledged ownership of the UNIX copyright. [19:28] jonsmith1982: sorry, was afk. Asus WL-520GC [19:29] Alan_Hicks: when is the new slackbook coming out? [19:30] When it's ready. [19:30] hey guys, anyone uses msmtp? [19:30] getting a msmtp: TLS certificate verification failed in gmail [19:31] Alan_Hicks: http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/linux/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=219401424 [19:31] Alan_Hicks: of course. is it near ready perhaps? [19:32] They have won an appeal of the copyright claims. Not the $3mil to Novell, but the issue of Unix ownership is back on the table. [19:33] makos_ (n=makos@dsl54009D17.pool.t-online.hu) joined ##slackware. [19:33] and then it follows that the issue of 'is there any unix code in linux' comes next. [19:33] eviljames: Hence why I said it's a non-issue until/unless some one buys that supposed ownership claim. [19:34] anyone has the file Equifax_Secure_CA.crt ? [19:34] What are the optional dependencies that the SBo elinks talks about? [19:34] Alan_Hicks: their backers have deep pockets, they're firing up for another round of the $1bil suit against IBM.. if they win that it could be a new problem [19:34] unless i'm fundamentally misunderstanding something [19:35] eviljames: Their backers mean shit right now. A Chapter 11 Trustee is running the show right now. [19:35] eviljames, can SCO file twice the same lawsuit that was filed in the past? [19:35] titopoquito (n=tito@p508EFB85.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Verlassend" [19:36] maxote: Yes, provided the litigation hasn't been settled or denied "with prejudice". [19:36] SCO is doing us a waste of time in the legal battle. [19:36] Alan_Hicks: doesn't that trustee have the responsibility now to continue with the lawsuit, considering this appeal? [19:37] eviljames: The trustee has the responsibilty of doing what he (she?) thinks is best. [19:37] dios_mio (i=test@88.236.176.108) joined ##slackware. [19:37] I'm still of the mind that their claims are baseless, but that fud machine alone inhibits Linux's progress. [19:37] If he feels the lawsuit will never win, but will only cost money, his options are A) Drop the lawsuit and try to resume business on another front or B) liquidate in Chapter 7 and see if anyone will buy those alleged copyrights. [19:39] eviljames: Not anymore. It's been years since anyone cared about SCO. Damage done, and unless it goes to a jury trial, and the jury decides that the copyrights do belong to SCO (or if it gets sold and some troll buys it), it's a non-issue. [19:40] SCO decided that he was suicided, now, SCO dead want to claim "Who did kill to SCO?" [19:40] ah, found it. I can use /usr/share/curl/ca-bundle.crt [19:40] maxote, you sure have a way words words :) [19:41] SCO isn't dead and irrelevant? [19:41] it's like a zombie [19:41] Alan_Hicks: The first part of that is happening apparently, and juries can be unpredictable. [19:41] "how to kill this damn zombie?" "what are the options to erradicate this damn zombie?" [19:42] eviljames: Never said they weren't. [19:42] Gotcha./ [19:43] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [19:43] last i heard they got yet another chance of apeal [19:43] macavity: They won that appeal today. [19:43] ej, eh? link? [19:43] http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/linux/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=219401424 [19:43] But, as Alan_Hicks has pointed out it may be meaningless. [19:44] SCO is out of the business, is SCO server down? does it exist SCO copyright 2009? is SCO doing itself only in the judgements's rooms for profit? [19:44] maxote: does it matter at this point? [19:44] Funputer's batteries running low. Good bye little boy... [19:44] maxote: is complete sentence? is annonying? is SCO? is blue sky? is cat nine lives really? is shit brown? [19:44] mcbride is hilarious [19:45] "today is not the end of the war" [19:45] sco is very suspectious [19:45] the war ended about a year ago... nothing to see here [19:46] makos (n=makos@dsl54009D85.pool.t-online.hu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:47] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-158-4-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [19:47] Kenjiro (n=kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) joined ##slackware. [19:47] good night [19:47] good people, anyone here running kde-4.3.0? [19:47] evening Kenjiro [19:47] I am [19:47] Nick change: mako-dono -> mako-sama [19:47] fire|bird: [19:48] fire|bird: *oops* nice [19:48] lol [19:48] fire|bird: can you tell me if you are able to use that "search" inside dolphin? That one located on the top right corner [19:48] caio__ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [19:49] Kenjiro: Yes, I am. [19:49] by "able to use" I mean "does it find anything for you"? [19:49] because it doesn't for me [19:49] Kenjiro: has Strigi indexed everything? [19:50] Well, in that sense, no, it doesn't, but I haven't had strigi index /home yet [19:50] eviljames: if I run strigiclient, and type something on it, it finds stuff for me [19:50] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:51] fire|bird: how much of a pita was it to compile kde 4? [19:51] Necos: not really a pain, just more letting it sit and do it's think to compile. :P [19:51] about 5-6 hours here [19:51] but you compiled everything? [19:51] yeah [19:52] hmmm, i'd only need kdebase, kdelibs, kdepim, kdevelop, and kdesdk... probably be a lot faster [19:52] yeah, it would. This was EVERYTHING that I built. [19:53] kdelibs is the longest, you'd also need kdebase-workspace, etc. or you'd have a mess [19:53] im not gonna lie [19:53] and libs-experimental [19:53] yup [19:53] im very tempted to upgrade right now to current [19:53] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:53] missyjane: Good, it's better to tell the truth. :P [19:53] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:53] it worked and i was happy with the result [19:53] makos (n=makos@dsl5400FFFD.pool.t-online.hu) joined ##slackware. [19:53] Kenjiro: hmm. sorry, I have no way to test - slackware13rc stock atm. [19:53] but im just a tad bit afraid, there were a few errors [19:53] i'm only using kde-libs / etc to use k9copy and kontact (so as little as possible) [19:53] like flash videos and how it crashes easily [19:53] eviljames and fire|bird: thanks for the answers. I was thinking my installation had problems [19:54] i use openbox with no DE [19:54] Kenjiro: you're welcome [19:54] as i see... looks like it doesnn't [19:54] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:54] kde4? broken? nooo [19:55] http://ir.sco.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=404081 <-- OpenServer 5.0.7 released, Aug 19th, the bankrupt-filed SCO is still doing market's businesses where defunct companies can't do it. [19:55] thrice`: haha, not so much in this case, more an issue that strigi hasn't done it's thing. :P [19:56] fire|bird: i will wait till strigi indexes EVERYTHING I told it to. Let's see the result TOMORROW [19:56] LOL [19:56] ok [19:56] acidchild: pong [19:56] maxote, just because they do a release doesn't mean anyone is going to pay attention to it [19:56] I just hope it won't take days to index everything next time I add new files (few files) [19:57] once I used 'tracker' and it didn't take that long. Well, perhaps strigi can do some more stuff than tracker (I hope it does, to pay off the long time needed to index) [19:57] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:58] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86.42.158.215) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:01] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:02] guitarman (n=guitarma@s207-216-242-139.bc.hsia.telus.net) left irc: "leaving" [20:02] and so wget begins running [20:03] \o/ :P [20:03] hmmm, current uses lzma for the tarballs now... [20:03] yup [20:05] the only feature i'd like to have for pkgtools would be a tagging system similar to how the regular package directory is organized [20:05] so in /var/log/packages, you'd have a, ap, etc... [20:05] that'd be really nice [20:06] i mean, for most people, everything would be in xap, but that's besides the point [20:06] the only reason i even thought of it was because of how x is packaged now [20:07] makos_ (n=makos@dsl54009D17.pool.t-online.hu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:07] it added like 100 packages just by itself [20:08] hmm.. lets say I have a custom compiled (and packaged) mysql that I've installed over the default.. if I do an update through slackpkg would it upgrade my packaged mysql? [20:08] you have to blacklist it, i think [20:09] one day, i'll actually take the time to compile gnome from scratch... [20:09] guess I should start keeping a list of stuff I'm custom compiling then lol [20:09] quasar: you'll have to blacklist otherwise it will try to upgrade your made package to slackwares package again. [20:10] but wouldn't it use the versioning to determine if it's new? [20:11] nope, I experienced that with kde4.3, slackpkg wants to install 4.2.4 :P [20:11] fire|bird: still up to some testing? *grin* [20:11] wow lol [20:11] Necos: i.e. around 39 packages. :D [20:11] Kenjiro: Um, sure, what you got? [20:11] ah, there we go... kde4 downloaded [20:11] \o/ [20:12] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.147) joined ##slackware. [20:12] this is 4.2.4 tho :P [20:12] Better then no kde4 at all. :D [20:12] i just wanna see how long it'll take to compile (and see if the programs i use look better) [20:12] Well Kontact sure does, imo [20:12] Necos : i'd recommend going for 4.3 if you're set on trying it out [20:16] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.39.185) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:18] v4nelle (n=van@adsl71-112.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [20:19] save the whales! all 5 flavors! [20:19] mmm [20:21] goodbye :) [20:21] real men use the console! [20:21] you wouldn't know a real man if you looked down >.> [20:21] lol [20:21] lol [20:22] fire|bird: please go to (in kde4) systemsettings, then Advanced, then Desktop Search [20:22] hm.. is ssh considered console? if not then you, sir, are worse than HITLER. [20:22] Necos: good one:) [20:22] lol thanks [20:22] fire|bird: bellow "Enable Strigi Desktop File Indexer" do you se a message like "Strigi service failed to initialize,..."? [20:23] (sorry for the delay) [20:23] Kenjiro: yeah, I do. :) [20:23] Kenjiro: But when I enable strigi that goes away and it says it's indexing [20:23] kde.mirrors.tds.net wins with it's 1MB/s download [20:23] makos (n=makos@dsl5400FFFD.pool.t-online.hu) left irc: Connection reset by peer [20:23] you don't keep it enabled all the time, do ya? lol [20:24] No [20:24] that could be expensive on a laptop [20:24] Necos: no doubt, this is in my desktop though. :D [20:24] I enable that and it doesn't go away (the message) [20:24] if you have shitty drives, it's the same [20:25] Kenjiro: Did you update strigi for your kde 4.3 build? [20:25] even with strigidaemon running on the background and already indexing stuff [20:25] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:25] fire|bird: what's your strigi version? Mine is strigi-0.6.5 [20:26] Necos: answer me this, why (on a Kubuntu live cd) do they use an A/C adapter icon for network manager? :P [20:26] Kenjiro: 0.7.0 [20:26] fire|bird: they ran out of ideas ^.^ [20:26] Kenjiro: for kde 4.3, strigi, akonadi, and soprano need to be updated. [20:26] fire|bird: to save space, duh! [20:26] Necos: apparently. :P [20:26] CodeBlocks IDE, Ultimate++ IDE, Eclipse IDE, ... i want to rule them on Slackware, :) [20:26] quasar: hahaha [20:27] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:27] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) left irc: "Saindo" [20:27] I mean... you gotta cut back on some of the bloat somewhere for a livecd, right?? [20:27] i think i speak for everyone here when i say... "what the fuck are you talking about maxote?" [20:27] Necos: ++++ [20:27] my GF wants to learn to program.. what language should i start her with? [20:27] Necos: negative.. I'll speak for myself [20:27] who fucking cares? [20:27] :D [20:27] lol [20:27] macavity: English then go from there. :P [20:27] i am contemplating line numbered BASIC or maybe Comal [20:28] quasar: lol [20:28] fire|bird: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm let me see that then [20:28] start her with a scripting language that isn't PHP [20:28] fire|bird: do you mind a quick PM? [20:28] scripting == automatized? it seems true. [20:28] bash scripting then C [20:29] i have been shopping around for a language that uses beuty product names for its basic constructs... but there seem to be none [20:29] in bash "?" matches any single character? [20:29] for Foundation in Beutybox: do Brush Rouge over Face [20:29] or something like that would be neat.. any ideas? :P [20:30] Kenjiro: /var/log/packages/soprano-2.3.0-i486-1, /var/log/packages/akonadi-1.2.0-i486-1, and /var/log/packages/strigi-0.7.0-i486-1 [20:30] lolcode ! [20:30] macavity: i must stab you in the face now [20:30] Necos: as in, i just got to the top of the list of your favorite persons? [20:30] macavity: haha, make your own language then for her. :P [20:31] use Parse::RecDescent and make your own in Perl >.> [20:31] macavity: nope, you're not there yet... but keep trying [20:31] ooohh.. the fire|ostridge has a very good point [20:31] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:31] "fashion lanugages" might become the next big thing with women using computers :P [20:32] macavity: you make a language for her, you'll get brownie points. :D [20:32] 3.) ??? 4.) profit! [20:32] Necos: i have a Perl disability :P [20:32] "You are now programming in fashionista, what would you like to make today?" :P [20:32] fire|bird: exactly what I would ask about *grin*. Thanks [20:32] s/Perl//;; [20:33] Kenjiro: you're welcome [20:33] i try bash, later python and finally c++ [20:33] s/Perl//; # ssh lag fail [20:33] ooops.. my GF is about to kill me for being a schouvenist :P [20:33] or how to spell [20:33] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: "chao pajudos =P" [20:33] macavity: you better be careful [20:33] chauvenistst? [20:33] fuck stupid ssh lag [20:33] Perl is the best i've tried. [20:33] macavity: she had to come up with a reason to kill you? ;) [20:34] i all fairness, it should probably use powertools as basic constructs instead.. as she is the "handyman" round these parts [20:34] i just do computers, cabling, electronics and cooking :P [20:34] are you saying she swings a bigger hammer than you do? [20:34] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [20:34] that's kinda... scary [20:34] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: "Leaving" [20:34] for reference: http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1555 [20:35] Necos: chauvinism: an attitude of superiority toward members of the opposite sex :D [20:35] i was close enough :P [20:35] agentc0re|work: No, she already had some, just thought, eh, what the heck, why not another one. :) [20:35] fire|bird++ [20:35] people wanted one thing: write little code for a task that does much [20:35] that word [20:35] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:36] fire|bird: just because you think it, doesn't mean it's not true... [20:36] Necos: haha, we shall meet again, mylady, as soon as my assassin is successful [20:36] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) left irc: "Leaving." [20:36] maybe we should take a Python course together... [20:36] Python or Perl I'd say. :) [20:36] even thought I don't know any programming language. :/ [20:36] macavity: how about you take a programming logic class together? [20:37] screw perl [20:37] screw it hard [20:37] maxote, CPAN can help alot with that. [20:37] because learning code is useless if you don't have proper logic [20:37] hiptobecubic: stop hating... go back to your corner :) [20:37] PERL SUCKS [20:37] done [20:37] also emacs sucks [20:38] what about lisp? [20:38] hiptobecubic: What happened to HP sucks? :P [20:38] HP SUCKS! [20:38] so does your mom [20:38] although i'm starting to go back on that [20:38] hiptobecubic needs a hug... from a polar bear [20:38] because it turns out that just windows sucks [20:38] hiptobecubic, you mustn't be doing it right. [20:38] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:38] this laptop is tolerable, except for the touchpad placement [20:38] hiptobecubic: you just found that out? :P [20:38] yop-lait (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [20:38] Necos: oh, i know programming logic well enough.. but since i only do C and Bash, i think someting that would yeild results a little faster might be a good idea [20:38] forget perl forever. python or ruby is where to go [20:38] S74N70 (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:39] macavity: not you dingdong... her... [20:39] Nick change: yop-lait -> [yop] [20:39] my way is simple: 1st bash scripting, later python scripting with python libraries if bash can't, and finally c++ for performance reasons. For web semantic, web design, etc, i will pick PHP5 for it. [20:39] + PEAR for PHP5 [20:39] PHP kills babies. it's true [20:40] ORANGE + StandardML? [20:40] I'm not a big fan of writing php [20:41] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [20:41] ruby is interesting... but goddamn, EVERYTHING is an object >.> [20:41] i need some dynamic web engine (php, jsp over jvm, ..) for a documental system of editing, similar to wikipedia. [20:41] perl catalyst [20:41] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [20:42] they have a wiki already called mojomojo [20:42] hmmm, i have to remove kde 3.5 before i start compiling 4? [20:42] does joomla do that? [20:42] another good one i have heard good things about is mojolicious [20:42] heh.. i just want a language that will yeild results pretty fast without a lot of theoretic background stuff [20:42] a web framework [20:42] macavity, for the web? [20:42] no [20:42] python forever! [20:42] for "playing with computers" [20:43] yup.. that is the impression i got too [20:43] hiptobecubic, is there any php-like, jsp-like, ... embedded language for web on python runtime? [20:44] yes there is, but #python can tell you more about than i can. [20:44] fire|bird: PM for a moment? [20:44] http://webpy.org/ [20:45] hmmm, looks like the patches for kdelibs are unneeded [20:46] macavity, http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=762814 [20:48] Necos: lol, yeah, I responded to your pm. :P [20:48] i saw ^.^ [20:48] ok [20:48] :) [20:49] mshade (n=mshade@ip68-100-212-163.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:50] i wonder why so many projects are starting to use apr/apr-util [20:50] brb [20:50] CapitalisTux (n=adrien@kami.via.ecp.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:51] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "I'm Leaving" [20:51] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:52] That's whats wrong with perl [20:52] what makes you say that? :P [20:52] you have to ask the 'monks' for help, who are analogous to real monks. Because you have to devote your life to it to understand anything. [20:53] it's all just a string of ugly idioms and hackery workarounds [20:53] nice try :) [20:53] it's better to have places like perlmonks where they teach you "The Right Way (tm)", than to end up on thedailywtf [20:54] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@173-18-58-61.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [20:54] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425457.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:54] that site got hacked the other day. [20:55] it's not "The Right Way" because there is "More Than One Way To Do Every Fucking Task", aka, everyone's code looks different and confusing [20:55] My code is perfect [20:55] obviously [20:55] yeah, the pmdevs have been working on some updates lately... [20:55] but otherwise yes [20:56] straterra, I can crack your codes! [20:56] Action: hiptobecubic spins pen and types with one hand [20:56] there's always more than one way to do it, but there's always common elements :P [20:58] http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Illogical-Logic-Flow.aspx <---- LOL [20:59] Dominian (i=dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) left irc: "leaving" [20:59] Dominian (i=dominian@freenode/staff/Dominian) joined ##slackware. [21:00] and now, for an example of what bad coders can do in any language: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Can-You-Say-Your-a,-b,-cs.aspx [21:00] bah i dont have the courage right now... [21:01] rhys (n=rhys@dialup-4.253.117.217.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [21:02] http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/A-Common-C-Dilemma.aspx <--- wow... just... wow... [21:02] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.23.183) joined ##slackware. [21:03] greetings nachox [21:03] When I started reading thedailyWTF, i should have just ran [21:03] became a plumber or something [21:03] i dont get this [21:03] greetings everyone [21:03] nachox: How's it going? [21:03] missyjane: get what? [21:04] um the joke in thedailywtf [21:04] a common c dilem, i dont get that [21:04] oh [21:04] heya nachox [21:05] missyjane: it's an infinite loop [21:05] well, rather, it's a non-loop sicne while(0) automatically fails [21:05] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:06] Necos: It's a non-looping loop :P [21:06] case in point: do this in a terminal: [21:06] so...this just...does nothing? [21:06] perl -e 'print "test" while(0);' [21:06] mshade (n=mshade@ip68-100-212-163.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:07] I'm staring at that. No wonder it made it to the WTF [21:07] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:07] hahaha [21:08] lol [21:08] phillipsm1 (n=matt@173-19-56-246.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [21:08] rhys: STOP staring, you'll strain your eyes. :P [21:08] Necos, you code in perl for a living? [21:08] http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Some-Crazy-Reason.aspx <---- this is another example [21:08] jonsmith1982: no [21:08] i use it for sysadmin tasks mostly [21:09] with some webdev here and there [21:09] Python>>Perl. [21:09] Thats right. Python isn't greater than perl, it just appends to perl. Bite me. [21:09] lol [21:09] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "I'm Leaving" [21:09] significant white space isn't my idea of a fun time [21:10] Necos: and line noise isn't mine either. [21:10] but python is damn cool... i've seen some of my profs do some gnarly number crunching with it [21:10] how dirty is Perl? xD [21:10] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [21:10] rhys: K&R didn't have a problem with line noise :P [21:11] Action: quasar throws fire|bird out the window. (RAV#4) [21:11] :( [21:11] What was that for? [21:11] maxote: oh.. i have seen Perl in situations that makes goatse.cx look like Disney Channel :P [21:11] what? can't you fly? [21:11] maxote: hook battery cables upto an osciliscope. now drag them, arcing across the battery. Apply a 128 range + and - to the scope. Then have a small machine print out the values for 255 ascii chars. [21:11] for web, PHP5 is important for me because Python doesn't meet my purposes. for files/tasks managing, python and bash meet me. [21:11] fire|bird: it is quasar's way of expression affection [21:11] quasar: Not with clipped wings you insensitive clod. :P [21:11] You now have the essence of most perl scripts. [21:12] macavity: that's some affection. :P [21:12] quasar: "Silence, I keel you" :D [21:12] fire|bird: just dont mention the short bus.. it tends to tick him off [21:12] lol [21:12] fire|bird: being speshul is hard sometimes.. apparently... [21:13] I guess, I wouldn't know. :P [21:13] lol [21:13] perl is a kind of brainfucking language by design, i though it. [21:13] flexible. [21:13] me neither.. i am just a standard run-off-the-mill techie fanboi :P [21:14] rhys: as i pointed out earlier... bad coders make perl look _REALLY_ bad [21:14] maxote: regular expressions were specifically designed to make otherwise sturdy people feel sick to their gut [21:15] Necos: and good coders make perl look look like a triple DES of an AVI file... :P [21:15] and that's why PHP had to copy it :P [21:16] man... I hate waiting on interviews. [21:16] PHP has regular expressions too, :) [21:17] yup.. flex FTW [21:17] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [21:18] slax (n=q@85.97.181.199) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:18] lol [21:18] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:18] all this talk about perl just reminded me that i need to go back and clean up some of my code [21:20] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-171-191.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [21:20] one thing for sure is that commenting things out of testing code is not the best way to move from testing to production [21:21] but what other language can you do this and get away with it? [21:21] my $prep = sprintf("INSERT INTO entries_hardware (%s) VALUES (%s)", join(",",@fields), join(",", map { "?" } @fields)); [21:21] compactness ftw :P [21:21] i always comment like if i was dong the code for a commercial textbook [21:22] macavity: same here [21:22] // This shit should not even be here <--- like that? :P [21:22] lol [21:22] I never know when I will leave for some reason, and some poor sysadmin will come across my backup routine and contemplate using the letter opener on his desk.. [21:22] no, /* FIXME: There is a fair amount of doubt whatever it is the right approach to do this here */ [21:23] ah [21:23] Action: Necos fixes macavity [21:23] remember ladies and gents, spay or neuter your pets [21:23] :P [21:23] eeek :P [21:24] Necos, I'd use DBIx::Class for that what you just did. [21:24] much cleaner. [21:24] yeah, DBIx::Class is really nice [21:25] but when i wrote that, i didn't know it existed [21:26] Kenjiro (n=kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) left irc: "ok, time to go" [21:29] It interests me how many hashtags on twitter popularity are apple related [21:29] Doubling reinforcing my idea of Apple users. [21:30] >.> [21:30] in any case, time for me to gtfo of here... see ya tomorri folks [21:31] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:32] Ever had a company that went, Resume submission -> 1.5 Months -> Phone interview -> 2 weeks -> in person interview -> 2 weeks -> second phone interview, CTO now -> 2 weeks... [21:33] mikearr (n=miker@pool-72-91-179-75.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:33] All with "well we really like you, and you have a high probability of getting the job, but *noncommitalmuttering* [21:33] rhys, happens all the time [21:34] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [21:34] waiting is driving me mad [21:34] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [21:36] good luck, rhys [21:37] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [21:37] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:39] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:40] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-171-191.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:41] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [21:42] heya hitest [21:43] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:48] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:48] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [21:49] xxjx_ (n=xxjx@unaffiliated/xxjx) joined ##slackware. [21:49] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [21:52] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:52] hba (n=hba@189.188.140.123) joined ##slackware. [21:58] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:58] greetings and salutations [21:58] greetings andarius, how are you? [21:59] salutations fire|bird, i am well. you ? [21:59] andarius: excellent, thank you. Just working with my wifi router, just got it today. [21:59] missyjane: http://omploader.org/vMjd3aA <---my desktop [21:59] fire|bird: make/model ? [22:00] andarius: cheap. :P ASUS WL-520GC [22:00] too much desktop clutter :P [22:00] xxjx_ (n=xxjx@unaffiliated/xxjx) left irc: "Leaving" [22:00] andarius: It seems to work, but when I configure a certain setting (yet to be determined which that is) it stops broadcasting the signal. [22:00] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:01] fire|bird, pretty.. [22:01] missyjane: pretty, what? [22:02] pretty desktop :) its kde4 [22:02] indeed it is. :) [22:03] brb [22:03] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "I'm Leaving" [22:04] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:04] v4nelle (n=van@adsl71-112.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:04] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@173-18-58-61.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [22:05] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:06] andarius: too much clutter? What's yours look like? :P [22:08] lee555J5 (n=lee@71.91.2.18) joined ##slackware. [22:10] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "I'm Leaving" [22:11] shuttle launch scrubbed for 2nd time due to broken dohiky found in engine compartment [22:13] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@173-18-58-61.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [22:13] oops :) [22:14] Quiznos: each attempted launch costs over $1 mega bux [22:14] nods [22:14] why cant they ducktape it? [22:14] slap a damn duck on it and Go!? [22:14] so that was a 1 mega bux doo-hicky ;) [22:15] a valvey thing [22:15] fire|bird: http://omploader.org/vMjd3aw [22:15] why couldnt they "cork it and forget it?" [22:16] andarius: very nice. xfce? [22:16] if valve is broken in engine then hydrogen/oxygen go boom ;) [22:16] fire|bird: yup [22:16] no, it go woosh; wahwah everywah [22:17] heh [22:17] bakednoodle (n=bakednoo@207.233.110.67) joined ##slackware. [22:17] andarius: I had posted my xfce desktop here the other day, I can't remember the link though. [22:17] i have a log, want me to grep? [22:17] has anyone compiled E17 for Slackware 64? [22:18] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:18] andarius: http://imagebin.org/60685 [22:18] Quiznos: nope, found it. :P thanks though [22:18] kk [22:18] isnt there a room bot to log? [22:18] is e17 STILL beta??? [22:18] Quiznos: yeah, there's logs at freenodeslack.blogspot.com [22:18] not even beta, I don't think [22:18] k [22:18] fire|bird: nice, much less clutter :) [22:19] stable is v16.9999999999 [22:19] rhys: no, it's not beta [22:19] andarius: Is that xfce's terminal in yours? [22:19] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:19] yes [22:19] hahah e17 is alpha as far as im concerned [22:19] andarius: wow that looks nice for xfce's terminal. :P [22:19] is ther a full complement of xfce tools installed on slack*? [22:19] xfce can be made very pretty with a bit of effort [22:20] andarius: indeed. [22:22] xfce tools ? [22:22] slacks xfce is pretty complete. none of the goodies but those are easy to get [22:22] those are all on SBo [22:22] and rworkman has them too [22:22] k [22:23] the goodies are goot :) [22:24] lol, that e17 version is almost enough for one 9 per year it has been under devel [22:24] I like E17 [22:24] its my favorite DE [22:24] besides flux and xfce [22:24] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [22:25] i thought Enlightenment was *supposed* to stay in beta.. you know, so only truely 1337 users would use it ;-) [22:25] Action: macavity ducks [22:26] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.64.148) joined ##slackware. [22:26] i don't use E17, remember, it sucks little of your RAM but it's much. [22:26] 6GB of RAM is enough for E17 right? [22:26] lolz [22:27] better make it 8 [22:27] caio__ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:27] that dependns on how fast it is leaking it [22:27] and at least a quad core [22:27] all good beta software has a memory leak or two :P [22:27] 20% more then kde is enough [22:27] i've 2 GiB of RAM and i'm using xterm [22:27] Q6600, 6GB RAM, 500GB enough? [22:27] wd_ (n=wd@adsl-71-137-252-219.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [22:28] holy cow [22:28] nah E17 isn't that bad I usually use around 270MB RAM idle [22:28] your system is almost word for word like mine bakednoodle [22:28] Action: missyjane takes out a knife [22:28] ARE YOU STEALING? [22:28] lols [22:28] WHOA! [22:28] fluxbox bakcground [22:28] what kinds of mobos do you two use? [22:28] P5N-E SLI, Q6600, 9800GT, 6GB RAM, 500GB HDD, SB Audigy 2 ZS [22:29] E17 is a lot of million light-years nicer than xterm :( [22:29] pastebin dmidecode info :P [22:29] missyjane: you lose.. SB Live does not compare to Audigy ;-) [22:30] lolz [22:30] lol >.> macavity i meant this line Q6600, 6GB RAM, 500GB enough? [22:30] bakednoodle: nice mobo [22:30] too bad my SB Audigy 2 ZS doesn't work with 5.1 under Win 7 [22:30] Asus rocks [22:30] and dont tell them macavity >< there is a reason why i pmed that to you [22:30] afk [22:30] when following the install guide for luks and lvm do i really need /home on a separate partition i mean if / is encrypted do i need to encrypt a sep /home partition? [22:30] bakednoodle: I have my Audigy connected via optical to my home theater. :P [22:30] missyjane: seriously, what SB card you have pose no security risk what so ever [22:30] macavity: at antiwire ^^^ [22:31] wd_: no [22:31] antiwire: ok [22:31] wd_: I have a /boot that holds my kernel and initrd and all of / is encrypted [22:31] antiwire: yeah because i was thinking damn root is already encrypted. [22:32] exactly [22:32] missyjane: actually, and this is probably theoretical only, the only peice if interesting info in an lspci output *could* be the NIC [22:32] wd_: my /boot is 100MB [22:32] missyjane: but with the particular one you have, that is absolutely not an issue [22:32] just keep that unencrypted [22:32] all a thief gets is your kernel and initrd [22:32] no big deal [22:33] antiwire: ok... following the guide alien wrote again this time im building my file server. [22:33] antiwire: don't scream.. because someone here was against it for a server.. shhhh. [22:33] lol [22:33] wd_: i don't care what you apply it to, even if it is overkill [22:33] :) [22:35] antiwire: jus so i'm correct this is all done on the fly.. even if i make dirs and fill them the files being written and read is encrypt and decrypt? [22:35] yes [22:35] antiwire: oh yeah. [22:36] obsever that this only help in the case of physical theft [22:36] antiwire: however the advantage of having a sep home would be in case i need to upgrade home partition with a bigger hd huh? [22:36] macavity: right. [22:37] also if you need to re-install [22:37] then you can wipe / yet preserve user files [22:37] macavity: hmmmm. ok. [22:37] that is why i split my HD in 10GB / and 90GB /home [22:37] wd_: if you have two partitions that are encrypted with luks, the initrd will ask for two passphrases each boot [22:37] you need to use LVM ot only be asked once [22:37] antiwire++ [22:38] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [22:38] antiwire: ok [22:38] and I can say that slack/lvm/luks works great [22:39] chopp: yes it does. i just read the gentoo install with luks/lvm and i got dizzy. lol [22:39] I can imagine [22:39] chopp: slack is simple. [22:39] john_dee (n=id@93-81-141-157.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [22:39] cuz we like it like dat [22:39] wd_: alienBOB's luks+lvm howto covers this [22:39] once i get java and flash going i'll retire my gentoo box. [22:39] chopp: haha. [22:40] macavity: that's what i'm going off on. [22:40] good [22:40] wd_: prepare to retire it ;) [22:40] BP{k}: huh? [22:40] macavity: i found it earlier today and did a test on a 4g hd..now i'm graduating to bigger box. [22:41] BP{k}: :) [22:41] BP{k}: well i've been getting emerging twitches... :) [22:41] BP{k}: you know depends and things. [22:41] :) [22:42] macavity: yes? [22:42] wd_: they'll depart in time. [22:42] BP{k}: ok. [22:43] < BP{k}> wd_: prepare to retire it ;) [22:43] ^^ huh? [22:43] macavity: retire gentoo. [22:43] :) [22:43] keep up now macavity [22:43] ah, i thought it was alienBOB's howto he was talking about :P [22:44] like we said .. "do try and keep up" ;) [22:44] i just got to get a niche on "/sbin/ifconfig" and "/usr/bin/blah" vs just ifconfig blah [22:45] those are just full paths vs env paths [22:45] ah, common, ive only had about 1.5 pots of coffee since i got up.. i'm 'ardly 'wake yet.. [22:45] but it's the original way to become a slacker. [22:45] antiwire: oh. [22:45] back in the day when *I* as starting with Slackware, I had no one to help. so there! [22:46] antiwire: don't tell me env paths is possible in slack..i will squirt all over.. sorry. [22:46] ... [22:46] Quiznos: sorry. i'll chill [22:46] ok i won't say it then [22:46] no, bragging once in a while is goodly :) [22:46] keep going and do try to keep up :) [22:46] antiwire: what? it is.. i have to google that [22:47] evilfourzero (n=weechat@68-114-212-208.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) left irc: "reboot - kernel upgrade" [22:47] antiwire: man don't tell me that, really [22:47] wd_: echo $PATH [22:47] k [22:48] wd_: come back when you have figured that one out :P [22:48] macavity: ok. :) [22:48] wd_: hint: man bash, then type /PATH [22:48] wsp4th (n=wperry@adsl-177-34-113.mem.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [22:48] wd_: use n for next and N for previous hit ;-) [22:49] wsp4th (n=wperry@adsl-177-34-113.mem.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:49] macavity: k [22:50] Tyrael (n=tyrael@c2224.upc-c.chello.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:50] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:52] damn you slackware you really are a distro converter... :) [22:52] wd_: hit n 7 times ;-) [22:52] be back guys gotta work on being a slacker [22:52] Slackware is the ultimate distro! [22:52] k [22:53] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [22:53] bakednoodle: yes it is. yay. [22:53] Anyone have a NAS setup running Slackware? [22:54] macavity: ty [22:54] darkwurm (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: "Leaving" [22:54] antiwire: ty [22:54] bbl [22:54] wd_ (n=wd@adsl-71-137-252-219.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:54] np [22:54] does a slack box running samba count as NAS? [22:54] bakednoodle : you mean & ? [22:54] well [22:54] technically yes [22:54] wd_: oh, and if you have not printed a version of bash(1) yet, do so.. you are supposed to read it end to end at least a couple of time (or rather, mark it with one of those yellow pens the first time, and then re-read those parts a couple of times) [22:55] then yes, many people run samba or nfs [22:55] Action: andarius uses a slamd machine to serve NFS and smb [22:55] I use a Slack12 machine to server SMB [22:55] serve* [22:55] samba is a bitch to configure. [22:55] not really [22:55] samba is pretty easy [22:55] not really [22:55] never done NFS [22:56] NFS is nice. [22:56] NFS or Samba? [22:56] bakednoodle : what? [22:56] Alright. How exactly does samba users map to unix permissions? [22:56] a good place to start --> http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:samba [22:57] andarius++ [22:57] I guess the question is what is better to use, in my case streaming video/storage NFS or Samba [22:57] bakednoodle : either is fine. [22:57] Action: andarius prefers nfs [22:57] rhys: the FS perms always take precedence over samba share perms [22:57] bakednoodle: they both have rather high bandwidth. I prefer NFS, but depends on what you're streaming to [22:58] antiwire : you can have samba override those [22:58] antiwire: and samba share perms are read, read/write, and "admin" ? [22:58] protocols don't have 'bandwidth' [22:58] ananke: no, but they do have overhead. [22:59] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:59] what about an NX Server anyone? [22:59] rhys : that's another story. regardless, they don't have bandwidth [22:59] bakednoodle : what about it? [22:59] darkwurm (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [22:59] does anyone have experience with it? I couldn't even get one of the libraries to compile [23:00] bakednoodle : i believe alienBOB has a slackbuild for it [23:00] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/freenx/ [23:00] ananke: true. I should say "transfer speed," but even I have been caught up in referring to any connection/protocol/applications transfer speed as its "bandwidth" [23:01] wow [23:01] while that is only true in specific cases, where the amount of bandwidth directly correlates to the amount of data able to be pushed per unit of time. [23:01] not to mention that samba actually can serve via two protocols, SMBFS and CIFS. [23:01] ananke, thanks for the link, didn't know a package was available [23:01] SMBFS is deprecated isn't it? [23:02] Yes. [23:02] pretty much so. CIFS is the successor, which provides not only better throughput, but also gives you ability to use unix permissions/ownerships [23:02] so better to use CIFS [23:02] yes, very much so [23:03] God, I'm exhausted...calling it a day. See you in the am. night all:) [23:03] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:04] what gets me, on a windows machine, what kind of credentials does it push automagically to browse a fileshare? [23:04] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-168-56.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:05] y0,slackers .... How's everyone? [23:05] IceW (n=sartori@189-19-153-171.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:05] macavity: ping [23:05] I thought Guest was the creds used depending on how the share was setup [23:05] Nick change: IceW -> Guest77417 [23:05] panzer: am now [23:06] Why would fbsetbg be saying "Error: Can't open display:"? Do I have to define the display=:0? [23:06] are you running it as root? [23:06] bakednoodle: No [23:07] Guest77417 (n=sartori@189-19-153-171.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:07] IceW (n=sartori@189-19-153-171.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:07] Nick change: IceW -> Guest63354 [23:08] bakednoodle: Even at root it gives the same error, but I don't want to set the background for root since I don't use X as root. It's this user. [23:08] rhys : it varies. it tries guest first, then tries the same credentials you used to login to windows, and so on [23:09] ah. [23:09] and if part of the domain, those [23:09] rhys: correct [23:09] yep. basically, it tries multiple ones, until it fails. then you get prompted to provide those [23:10] Guest63354 (n=sartori@189-19-153-171.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware. [23:10] hmm [23:10] sleep time [23:10] thanks [23:10] rhys (n=rhys@dialup-4.253.117.217.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) left ##slackware. [23:10] np [23:10] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@220-136-230-61.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] Bored bored bored. [23:10] stybla_ (n=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [23:11] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:11] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.23.183) left irc: "Leaving" [23:13] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:15] _TJ (n=tj@nc-76-5-176-100.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [23:15] _TJ (n=tj@nc-76-5-176-100.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [23:20] arenics (n=arenics@unaffiliated/arenics) joined ##slackware. [23:20] hertz_ (n=hertz@201-92-79-96.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:21] This is the correct command to put in startup right? fbsetbg -r /home/lf4/.fluxbox/backgrounds [23:22] cuba33ci (i=cuba33ci@118-168-233-62.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:22] phillipsm1 (n=matt@173-19-56-246.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. [23:23] lf4: you want it to rotate among images in the backgrounds folder? [23:23] ok; i'm awaker. coffe induced. [23:23] good night everyone [23:23] fire|bird: Yeah lol but I keep getting a Can't open display error. [23:23] night missyjane [23:23] night missyjane [23:23] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [23:23] lf4: you're running it as root? [23:24] stybla_ (n=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:24] fire|bird: I've tried both as the user and as root. [23:24] lf4: Well, aside from that error, yes, that's right [23:24] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [23:24] lf4 why do you INSIST on breaking your box? :> [23:25] Quiznos: It is jsut to much fun. Plus this grid background is hurting my eyes. [23:25] yea yea, sure sure (another exclusive macro by Quiznos) [23:25] lf4: Well, it should work as normal user. Just try putting it in ~/.fluxbox/startup, logout and in, and see what happens [23:26] fire|bird: Haha i've done that about 5 or more times now. Making small changes and still nothing. [23:26] lf4 whereis your $DISPLAY? [23:26] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-230-201.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [23:26] Quiznos: That's what I was wondering do I need to set the display with the command as well? [23:26] lf4: paste your ~/.fluxbox/startup please [23:26] either i think [23:27] lf4: also, what does echo $DISPLAY show? [23:27] on cnd makes it xplcit [23:27] he has onone [23:27] i have none [23:27] but x is running [23:27] stringe [23:27] fire|bird: echo $DISPLAY = nothing [23:27] +a [23:27] export it [23:28] lf4: WHAT? [23:28] you should get :0.0 [23:28] lf4: good grief man what have you done? [23:28] http://pastebin.com/d1db34ef5 [23:28] export DISPLAY=:0.0 [23:28] anyone running a public xserver? [23:29] lf4: maybe this will help http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=Background [23:29] fire|bird: now I get is after doing what Quiznos said. [23:29] it workd? [23:30] i need CLEAR proof to notch my moose [23:30] hertz_ (n=hertz@201-92-79-96.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:31] lf4: It works after exporting the display? [23:31] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:31] lf4 now tell me do i get to notch my moose? [23:31] Action: fire|bird hits PurpleSmurf over the head with a Quiznos sub. :D [23:31] and the sammich bounces off [23:31] fire|bird: Yes [23:32] lf4: Ok, add "export DISPLAY=:0.0" right above your fbsetbg line in startup, minus the quotes. [23:33] then try it [23:33] Action: MLanden sees bits of meats and veggies splattering around the room [23:33] y0 MLanden [23:34] y0 ,fire|bird [23:34] Don't mind the meats and veggies, that's just Quiznos, he saw a hot girl in a bikini and exploded. :/ [23:34] Ok fire|bird Quiznos/PurpleSmurf it worked :) Thanks [23:34] lf4: awesome. :) [23:35] cuba33ci1 (n=cuba33ci@220-136-229-90.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [23:35] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:35] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:36] been checking out episodes of Charlie Brooker's Screenwipe on youtube recently...good rants [23:36] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[23:39] dmesg review [23:39] cryptsetup[16241] general protection ip:40a3a7 sp:7fff0bf578b8 error:0 in cryptsetup.static[400000+113000] [23:39] ew [23:39] that's bad [23:39] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:39] badbadbad(TM) [23:39] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:40] lf4: you might also want to check out the Esetroot package at SBo [23:40] figabo (n=figabo@189.186.33.45) left irc: "Saliendo" [23:40] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@220-136-230-61.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:40] powtrix: or, add -g -ggdb to CFLAGS and remake srcpkg [23:40] Olap (n=a@77-99-112-110.cable.ubr16.sgyl.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:41] what it does? [23:41] Olap (n=a@77-99-112-110.cable.ubr16.sgyl.blueyonder.co.uk) left ##slackware. [23:41] tells gcc to add debg info to binary [23:41] debug [23:41] hm [23:41] so a core file and be used better [23:41] and/can [23:42] and, -lSegFault after -ggdb too [23:42] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:43] ok [23:44] the best scene of star wars one, with the aminals and the girl in the tighty whitey jump suit [23:44] mmm [23:44] the fight scene in the arena [23:46] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [23:47] Dis is da blue bird, I be ready to refuel. [23:48] you got it wrong; "dis be daBlue; I be ready for daFuel!" [23:48] Action: quasar sighs [23:48] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-230-201.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:48] someone doesn't know their movie quotes! [23:48] quot schmot [23:48] deps on the movie [23:48] you know, the one where they used a T-38 as a Mig38! [23:49] you dint name the movie [23:49] Iron Eagle [23:49] k [23:52] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "I'm Leaving" [23:52] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [23:53] WRT to the star wars movies, i think i figered out its timespan; i think it's about 40 years from Act one to the last act. (act==movie) [23:53] wb fire|bird [23:53] MLanden: thanks [23:53] fire|bird: np [23:54] always though it was longer..timespan I mean [23:54] s/though/thought [23:55] well; i did too but it's the lifespan of one only several people [23:55] the first gen, focusing on Anakin [23:55] then his children. [23:55] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:55] true [23:55] brb [23:55] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Client Quit [23:56] and since Spike.tv has been replaying the the whole set this year, i've had the time to really think on this. [23:56] i dont think it's longer than 40 years. [23:56] anankin +ten years when he and padme remeet and she's senator [23:56] diabolix (n=jsoyke@75-139-117-053.dhcp.mant.nc.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:56] then less than a few years then they have the twins [23:57] then (2nd movie group) luke and sister [23:57] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [23:57] so I just tried to sign up for fsckvps, and the password I chose on an ssl encrypted webform was sent to my email as clear-text. I have a right to be pissed, no? [23:59] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [23:59] true...with Darth Vadar really maimed and placed in his life-sustaining exoskeleton...his appearance would be of a man much older that he was [23:59] http://agency.governmentjobs.com/lubbock/default.cfm?action=viewclassspec&ClassSpecID=728062&Agency=1762&ViewOnly=Yes [00:00] --- Wed Aug 26 2009