[00:00] I need some clarification here; If a smoke detector is going off is taking it down and disabling it until you clear the smoke a really tough concept to grasp? [00:00] ooh shit [00:00] dododomo (n=alpha@adsl-69-105-239-139.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:00] i just typed eject over ssh and it actually did eject my drive :| [00:01] so what? [00:02] Ah, there, transparency once again. [00:02] Too bad xfce doesn't have some more fancy effects available. [00:03] dimm0k (n=dimm0k@pool-71-183-191-97.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:03] Emeau (n=Emeau@90.2.209.126) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [00:05] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [00:05] take care,slackers...talk with all later [00:05] see ya MLanden [00:05] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-80-61.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [00:05] dchmelik (i=1000@66.243.232.122) joined ##slackware. [00:09] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-136-118.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [00:10] what the, even with xfce compositing on, the terminal is black, I turn that off it's transparent. :P [00:10] firebird619: real transparency or the fake type ? [00:10] fake [00:10] o [00:10] It was real before, but now it's not working right. :P [00:11] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:11] have to use gnome, kde, or xfce for compiz huh ? [00:11] there are no other choices right ? [00:11] right [00:11] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [00:12] rats :-P [00:12] With xfce compositing on, when I move the terminal, then it's transparent, otherwise it isn't [00:12] cg999 (n=cg999@user-54464f96.lns3-c12.dsl.pol.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:12] ohai [00:13] Ugh, this is weird. [00:13] hey cg999 [00:13] firebird619: go to edit > pref > and then the apperance in terminal [00:13] the set transperancy [00:13] yeah, that is pretty weird, firebird619 [00:13] i'm compgenius999, just this is my slackware running irc instead of my windows box [00:13] Reticenti: I have. [00:13] cg999: awesome, hope you are having fun [00:14] uhh, so how do i setup my keymap to UK instead of US? [00:14] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-90-126.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [00:14] dchmelik (i=1000@66.243.232.122) left irc: "Leaving." [00:14] Okay, so i am watching the news and it comes on and say that this girl is pregers with two kids but their not twins.. [00:14] WTF? [00:14] if you use kde or gnome, theres probably some preferences dialog to set, cg999 ? [00:14] uhh no, i'm using blackbox [00:15] She had a second egg drop while pregers with the first one, allowing her to become second pregers. [00:15] oh, maybe setxkbmap uk <-- or whatever [00:15] y0 agentc0re :D [00:15] :D y0 firebird619 [00:15] cg999: there is also i believe a way to do this via a hal config file [00:15] wow.. haven't seen that nick in a while. [00:15] agentc0re an extopic pregnancy? [00:15] ectopic [00:15] i tried to tab your name with the, fire| .... and it wouldn [00:15] Error loading new keyboard description [00:15] gah, wouldn't work. [00:16] agentc0re: yeah, a few months. :P [00:16] dchmelik (i=1000@66.243.232.122) joined ##slackware. [00:16] haha [00:16] dchmelik (i=1000@66.243.232.122) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:16] fire| * tab *tab *tab... WTF!!!! [00:16] agentc0re: I wonder if using this one now constitutes 96 nick changes. :P [00:16] Oh, he changed. [00:16] lol [00:16] oh wait, that'd be 97, I changed to deco earlier. :P [00:16] cg999: http://www.slackware.at/data/slackware-13.0/CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT look for "If you need to use a non-US ..." [00:16] holy crap thats alot of nicks. [00:17] heh [00:17] s/crap/stupid [00:17] :P [00:17] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:17] firebird619: i figured it out, i had to change the desktops in general settings in ccsm [00:17] I'm so waiting for this http://www.shamboni.com/pictures/06302008141507relax.jpg [00:17] I forgot to type km before installing slackware :( [00:17] agentc0re: Holy stupid? :P [00:17] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [00:17] Reticenti: ok, cool. :P [00:17] I absolutely hope I'm around when that rock comes [00:17] km? [00:17] what rock? [00:17] antiwire: HAHA, is that NIbiru!?! [00:18] lol! [00:18] :P [00:18] cg999: km ? [00:18] GM [00:18] FM [00:18] BM [00:18] is that like AM [00:18] AM [00:18] antiwire what rock? [00:18] dchmelik (i=1000@66.243.232.122) joined ##slackware. [00:18] yes fhobia, km to set keyboard map, seems like after installing slackware it gets removed [00:18] Quiznos: The space rock [00:18] asteroid? [00:18] Quiznos: The one in the link he posted. good grief [00:18] *THE* space rock. [00:18] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [00:19] firedix (n=firedix@host83.200-117-148.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:19] antiwire: 2028, Apophis [00:19] i cant surf atm [00:19] no jpging [00:19] I don't wait for just any space rock, I wait for THE space rock [00:19] s/surf/irc/ :D [00:19] the red dwarf that is going to crash into us on 2012.. DUH!! [00:19] cg999: oh, i have mine set to dvorak, but it works just for the console - once i get into X windows, i have to call setxkbmap [00:19] SiegeX: Apophis is our best chance [00:19] well there is atleast one asteroid/meteor mentioned in Revelation [00:19] agentc0re: With any luck, it'll hit Quiznos' house first. [00:19] :P [00:19] Apophis... never heard of that... sounds interesting. [00:20] for what, to drink the coolaid and ride the spaceship that is trailing behind it? [00:20] I'd stand at ground zero [00:20] I'm a loser and use QWERTY [00:20] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.59.14) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:20] firebird619: we can only hope so... Well actually... Jeev first. [00:20] ladies first, ya know? [00:20] agentc0re: yeah, good point. :) [00:21] it wont be a planet killer tho [00:21] nah, just a quarter-mile wide. but it will fuck shit up [00:21] That's why you need to be at GZ [00:22] Earth has been hit by a rock the size in that picture though, that's what created the moon. [00:22] well it'll occur during Israel's peace wiht the antichrist [00:22] Wouldn't it be rad if your head was the first contact that the Earth killer had? [00:22] hilarious [00:22] Actually i saw a clip about, i think beattlejuice(the star), is going super nova (gave you the link antiwire, not sure if you got it). It is in our same galaxy and if it goes, it will shoot a gamaray burst directly towards our area which will destroy us. [00:22] However, this wont happen for another million or so years... [00:22] nah [00:22] before it even hits dirt, it hits your head [00:22] lol [00:22] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:22] what ever rock it is, it'll land in the next 60-70 years [00:23] Betelgeuse [00:23] antiwire: Especially if you could youtube it!! [00:23] ccfreak2k: that sounds more like what i am talking about.l [00:23] let me get the link :D [00:24] "Betelgeuse's supernova will not cause a gamma ray burst in the direction of Earth large enough to damage its ecosystems." [00:24] ughh, I can't configure slackware to work with this UK keyboard, now I can't type " or @ without messing up [00:24] you just did [00:24] cg999 back out of x and run loadkeys uk.map; then startx again [00:24] http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=B36D258C0F246ED5 [00:24] bash-3.1$ loadkeys uk.map [00:24] Loading /usr/share/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/uk.map [00:24] Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console [00:24] Channel flood from cg999 -- kicking [00:24] bash-3.1$ [00:24] cg999 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [00:25] cg999 (n=cg999@user-54464f96.lns3-c12.dsl.pol.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:25] agentc0re: I don't think its Betelgeuse but there is some neutron star that we are looking straight down the barrel for, forget it's name [00:25] oops? [00:25] cg999 your prob inst map [00:25] it's console [00:25] ls -l /dev/ptmx [00:25] crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5, 2 2009-09-24 23:39 /dev/ptmx [00:25] yep [00:25] wait, how is a UK keyboard different from a US? [00:25] it drives on the left [00:26] the @ and " keys r swapped [00:26] currency sign [00:26] SiegeX: that series mentions the name of the star. [00:26] /bin/sh: ls-: command not found [00:26] and the # is replaced by a pound currency sign [00:26] crw------- 1 root root 5, 1 2009-09-20 22:09 /dev/console [00:26] agentc0re: TV show? [00:26] compare that too [00:26] and ~ + # r on their own key [00:26] SiegeX: check the freaking link [00:26] christ. [00:27] ahh, missed that [00:27] ya i was going to say "The Universe" ? [00:27] ya the big thing that starts with, HTTP:// [00:27] i know it's hard to miss. :P [00:27] maybe its that alledged dark star companion of this system? [00:27] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:27] cg999 show ls -l on dev/console [00:27] crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5, 2 2009-09-25 04:25 /dev/ptmx [00:28] and console? [00:28] anyone ever heard of Autolux? [00:28] nop [00:28] crw------- 1 root root 5, 1 2009-09-25 02:49 /dev/console [00:28] ok both match [00:28] cg999, do you have a XkbLayout option in xorg.conf or in an fdi (if using hal to do it all) [00:29] cg999 i think i konw the prob [00:29] uhh where is xorg.conf? [00:29] /etc/X11/xorg.conf (is this slack13 btw?) [00:29] yeah [00:29] slack13 [00:29] then you need to add in that in a keyboard.fdi [00:30] cg999 what are values in /proc/sys/fs/file-* (2 vals) [00:30] is it just me or is Amy Mainzer totally bangable? [00:30] uhhh, xorg.conf doesnt exist in /etc/X11 [00:30] whose she? [00:30] /proc/sys/fs/file-max /proc/sys/fs/file-nr [00:30] cat them [00:31] some JPL physicist who is a regular on "The Universe" series [00:31] heh [00:31] lol; the brainy type, SiegeX ? :) [00:31] nr - 1152 0 75894 [00:31] max - 75894 [00:31] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [00:31] ok [00:31] 1152 used [00:31] cg999, ok, you need to have a 10-keymap.fdi in /etc/hal/fdi/policy [00:31] yeah [00:31] i did that [00:32] i have no xorg.conf [00:32] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [00:32] it's almost 10PM on a thrusday [00:32] fdi/* is empty here [00:32] did you add in the xkblayout option? [00:32] uhh [00:32] 10:30 here antiwire. [00:32] I haven o xorg.conf to add to [00:32] that means right about now the bars downtown are starting to go off [00:33] go to them [00:33] I'm about to [00:33] cg999, forget the xorg.conf, slack13 can do without [00:33] k [00:33] i have no xorg.conf to add the xkblayout to [00:33] remember the moon-screen [00:34] you add this uk [00:34] Quiznos: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Mainzer amirite? [00:34] to your 10-keymap.fdi [00:34] wait there is a xorg.conf-vesa file though [00:34] wr104 is the planet. [00:34] # Option "XkbLayout" "de" [00:34] SiegeX i goota look later; no gui atm [00:34] stop repeating xorg.conf please [00:34] AkumaTw0 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [00:34] its xorg.conf-vesa... [00:35] we've moved on to fdi files now. i gave your the line to add to your fdi [00:35] what part of the fdi do i att it to? [00:35] add* [00:35] wolf-ray-a stars. [00:35] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [00:36] refugiado (n=refugiad@187.41.225.152) joined ##slackware. [00:36] bottom? [00:36] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:36] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:36] good question, i think inside trhe input.keys match block [00:36] ok bbl [00:36] gone [00:37] ok i've added it in the match block [00:37] can you pastebin it? pastebin.com [00:37] meanwhile test it, if it works we needn't fuss wih location [00:38] i'm editing it in nano, how would i select all on nano? [00:38] don't use nano [00:38] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:38] *i don't use nano (so can't help) [00:38] EMACS! [00:38] Action: agentc0re hides [00:38] craig ferguson is so funi; does anyone here actually have a tin foil hat? [00:38] yey emacs [00:38] you can use nano f you want [00:38] i'll use emacs [00:38] caig made one; i think i will too [00:38] craif [00:38] g+ [00:39] wtf fail, i can't use file or edit or options [00:39] cat [00:39] is this computergenius999? [00:39] compgenius999 mancha [00:39] Action: mancha excuses himself [00:39] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [00:39] vim > emacs [00:39] LMFAO fail mancha [00:39] wth? [00:39] vim > almost everything [00:39] haha [00:39] he hates you? [00:39] Action: superGear hides [00:40] Quiznos: Well, hate is a strong word, but he did leave. :) [00:40] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [00:40] prolb setting up a botnet against you :) [00:40] wb mancha :P [00:40] lol [00:40] mancha hates cg999 [00:40] mancha whyd you quit? [00:41] cg999: use notepad [00:41] i'm on linux [00:41] lol [00:41] cat or echo [00:41] or printf [00:41] phillipsm (n=phillips@173-20-30-13.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [00:41] mousepad [00:41] or a heredoc [00:41] changing some config stuff on my net [00:41] ok really gone now [00:41] cg999: word? [00:42] wordpad [00:42] superGear++ [00:42] arghh, how do i exit emacs... [00:42] rtm [00:42] cg999: use edit [00:42] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@96.21.131.161) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [00:42] I usually end up killing the process myself :| [00:42] cg999: ctrl+alt+del ? [00:42] Action: superGear slaps agentc0re [00:43] agentc0re, theres no windows on this box [00:43] cg999: BS... what window are you using for this chat program you are currently using? [00:43] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [00:43] cg999, crtl-x crtl-c [00:43] you're on xchat [00:44] xchat on slackware [00:44] you could use wine notepad.exe ;P [00:44] havent installed wine [00:44] haha [00:44] cg999: so you do have a window!! [00:44] cg999: /join #windows [00:44] lol [00:44] cg999: you could use mousepad [00:44] call geppetto [00:44] superGear: that's where you put your mouse silly [00:45] Action: superGear slaps agentc0re [00:45] Action: firebird619 kicks agentc0re [00:45] arghh, somebody tell me how to quit this stupid emacs... [00:45] cg999 I just told you [00:45] Hit the X [00:45] :P [00:45] Action: agentc0re deflects the slapt from superGear and it hits firebird619 [00:45] :O [00:45] CRTL-x CRTL-c [00:46] ctrl+x and Ctrl+c [00:46] failed [00:46] Action: agentc0re side steps firebird619 kick, watching it kick superGear in the nuts [00:46] does anyone here use awn? [00:46] you just don't fuck with marines boys..:P [00:46] is this #slacky-chan ? [00:46] finally i got out of emacs [00:46] :> [00:47] we're all hooked to the emacs... it's like the matrix. [00:47] (pun on jackie-chan) they say if you need to explain a joke it's fucked, so oh well [00:47] agentc0re, yeah i hear their aim sucks [00:47] cg999, how? the crtl sequence always worked for me? [00:48] Action: firebird619 hires a Blue Angel to bomb agentc0re's house. :) [00:48] Rat409 (n=nobody@205.209.95.119) joined ##slackware. [00:48] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-136-118.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:48] y0 Rat409 [00:48] mancha u still there/ [00:48] yo firebird619 [00:48] http://pastebin.com/d71b52a26 [00:48] mancha ^ [00:48] Action: agentc0re points the aiming laser at firebird619 location [00:48] Rat409: I'm back to the old nick. :P [00:48] Action: agentc0re waves [00:48] cool [00:49] Hmm, what's that red beam of light outside the window. OH CRAP. :P [00:49] Action: cg999 slaps mancha with a potato [00:49] hiya firebird619:) [00:49] hey hitest :) [00:49] I'm root and xorgsetup won't run errr [00:49] :) [00:49] two lines above the line you added is a line you shouldn't have [00:49] what? [00:49] cg999: YOU ADDED A LINE YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE ADDED. [00:50] what line? [00:50] what? [00:50] Xgates: do you have any helpful information? [00:50] The line two lines above the line. [00:50] duh [00:50] wut? [00:50] I thought xwmconfig setup everything so all you had to do was just type startx and load the desktop/wm, or do you need to make a symlink from xinitrc. ? [00:50] This is going nowhere [00:50] fast [00:50] agentc0reit just says xorgsetup needs to run as root and I am root :) [00:50] firebird619: lol, you're just realizing that? ;) [00:51] two lines above the line you added is a line you shouldn't have [00:51] agentc0re: Nah, realized it earlier today, just finally said something. [00:51] wtf does that mean? [00:51] means you can't read [00:51] 1 [00:51] 2 [00:51] your line [00:51] ub [00:51] two lines above the line you added is a line you shouldn't have [00:51] [00:52] means you need to schedule an eye doctor appointment. [00:52] that one? [00:52] WTF are you editing cg999? [00:52] Action: cg999 is extremely confused [00:52] agentc0re: apparently he's now designing a Web site. [00:52] :P [00:52] lol [00:52] emacs fucked it up [00:52] remove line 20 [00:53] cg999: no, you fucked it up using emacs. [00:53] That's why you've been given SEVERAL other suggestions on what editor to use. [00:53] Action: dartmouth suggests gedit [00:53] Wait, above you closed emacs out, wtf. [00:53] Action: dartmouth actually suggests geany [00:53] Action: agentc0re suggest notepad [00:53] i'm using blackbox, i don't have geditr [00:53] i'm using blackbox, i don't have gedit [00:54] geany is what i meant to say [00:54] mousepad [00:54] superGear's suggestion of wine might not be a bad idea, only s/wine/something strong/ :P [00:54] its in the slackbuilds cg999 [00:54] use mousepad [00:54] nah geany is ideal [00:54] if you installed xfce4 [00:54] cg999: you have everything slackware comes with regardless of it showing up in your menu or not. [00:54] mousepad is already there though [00:54] meh i'll try mousepad [00:54] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:54] and it resembles notepad so he might actually get somewhere. [00:54] cg999, if he didnt install xfce4 then he should use emacs ^_^ [00:54] darkwurm: if he has it already no reason to have him do something he'd need help with [00:54] unless you were an idiot+1 and didn't do the full install... [00:55] dartmouth* [00:55] jhw_ (n=jhw@p548F45D8.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:55] ok, mousepad works [00:55] Patron sounds good now, anyone want to take a shot with me? [00:55] Action: agentc0re raises glass [00:56] shud i remove the xml line emacs inserted/ [00:56] vukovar (n=vukovar@CPE-121-214-57-207.lnse4.win.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:58] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:58] why do i feel like i am in Alison and Wonderland right now? [00:58] s/and/in [00:59] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [00:59] off with her head! [00:59] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [00:59] Alice [00:59] phillipsm (n=phillips@173-20-30-13.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [01:00] cg999: ya think [01:00] wait... [01:00] Ya know, for a nick of compgenius, (no offense) but you're sure not living up to your name. :P [01:00] cmair (n=cmair@host231-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:00] rhys (n=rhys@c-67-176-142-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:00] emacs didn't insert that [01:00] maybe cg999 should use ubuntu [01:00] ubuntu = slow [01:00] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425734.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:01] use Fedora then [01:01] and i've already wasted 3 disks on slackware [01:01] no DVD burner? [01:01] fedora attacked me with too many kernel errors [01:01] cuz it didnt like the soundcard [01:01] Arch :D [01:01] already tried arch [01:01] failed even worse than slackware with my wireless [01:01] gentoo! [01:02] cg999: wasted 3 disks on slackware?! WTF? [01:02] gentoo, no that fails 100% for me [01:02] yeah 3 disks [01:02] just use windows, maybe linux is a bad fit [01:02] i dont got a dvd burner [01:02] hitest: He didn't get the dvd. :) [01:02] cg999: you only needed 2 [01:02] 2? [01:02] i believe [01:02] it asked for disk 3 [01:02] when i installed it [01:02] i could be wrong [01:02] i normally d/l the DVD [01:03] I *only* run slackware on my units...everything else is shit [01:03] antiwire: in reply to your picture earlier, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_OYpNlwP8U [01:03] hitest: BSD's are nice though. [01:03] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:03] as is OSOL [01:03] firebird619, yeah...true [01:03] but, I'm done with the BSDs for now:) [01:04] hitest: I never did get my mouse working in FreeBSD last time. :P [01:04] did you try kldload snd_driver [01:04] Action: cg999 's printscreen key doesn't seem to take a screenshot on blackbox [01:04] yeah [01:04] ah [01:04] that worked for me...bummer [01:05] cg999: because it's not linked to anything. [01:05] Xgates (n=Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: "Ping Timeout ( 0 Seconds )" [01:06] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:06] Xgates (n=Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [01:07] well I got Slack x64 13 installed through a net install on a macbook pro, so far so good [01:07] cg999 (n=cg999@user-54464f96.lns3-c12.dsl.pol.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [01:07] now jst need to see if I can get wirelss and sound working... [01:07] jst/just... [01:08] what does the macbook come with as far as wireless? [01:08] how do i restart X if when i kill X everything crashes? [01:08] mancha: Atheros in the older ones, (inferior) Broadcom in the newer ones [01:08] ah, yeah, atheros would be nicer! [01:08] firebird619: I'm an idiot. you said mouse. did you try enabling hal and dbus in /etc/rc.conf? [01:08] wonder why they switched... [01:09] because they wanted to use cheaper hardware? [01:09] vukovar (n=vukovar@CPE-121-214-57-207.lnse4.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [01:09] its broadcom on mine [01:09] its probably something like the powerpc switch to intel [01:09] mancha: 2 reasons I suspect: 1) I have a feeling BCMs are cheaper and 2) Apple have been using Broadcoms for a while, most of their "Airport Extreme" hardware was Broadcom even before the Intel switch [01:09] even though the powerpc's were faster [01:10] lsd, makes sense. too bad though [01:10] mancha: broadcom BCM4328 [01:10] how do i restart X without trying to drop into a console as that causes me to crash [01:11] oh wait I think mine is 4322 or something like that... I forget... [01:11] compgenius999: performance per watt and price/performance is better with Intel than PowerPC. Apple needed individual water coolers (that had a nasty tendency to leak) to get G5s up to decent performance levels [01:11] Xgates you might have to wrap a driver then [01:11] Xgates: be careful with that, Linux doesn't fully support the SMC in the Intel Macs meaning you can overheat them and kill the lobo if you aren't careful [01:11] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:12] LSD`: hmm I thought Linux did support SMC you sure? cause I see the bios detects smc... [01:12] to get a USB mouse working in freebsd you need to add this to /etc/rc.conf dbus_enable="YES" hald_enable="YES" [01:13] Xgates: there are patches that provide some support, but they lack the ability to alter the vcore on the CPU which is what leads to the thermal death [01:13] IRBAK [01:13] agentc0re: I love that clip [01:13] LSD, wow, thats pretty bad [01:13] :D [01:13] how do i restart X without manually killing it and dropping into a console [01:14] ctrl alt delete? [01:15] i'd be pretty pissed if linux killed my laptop [01:15] linux nearly did for me [01:15] so far its only broke the cd drive and kinda damaged the hard drive [01:15] lol, good ole monty, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SXq5X9zEZI [01:16] compgenius999: you are blaming your failed hardware on Linux? [01:16] compgenius999: user error and... user error. kthkbai [01:16] I don't think you are a computer genius at all [01:16] mancha: Apple are supposedly being quite good about it if you have AppleCare even though they don't really have to be. They don't officially support running Linux on them so could just as easily leave people on their own. [01:16] bosanac (i=mdfk@80.77.156.104) joined ##slackware. [01:16] lmfao [01:17] antiwire: we've had better trolls in here, wouldn't you agree? [01:17] i'm only good on windows, but windows is slow [01:17] this doesn't even count as a troll attempt in my score book [01:17] compgenius999, cars scare me. I'm only good at walking, but walking is slow. [01:17] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [01:17] antiwire: maybe the kind of person you'd find in the actual world of Idiocracy? [01:18] windows is slow, and laggy, and keeps breaking [01:18] lol [01:18] i've had it break 5 times [01:18] compgenius999: sounds like my experience with Linux :P [01:18] this week [01:18] compgenius999: maybe you need to find your mouse cheese to power your POWER WHEELS!! [01:18] LOL [01:18] yeah, firefox on linux crashes every 30 minutes for me, but at least the whole os doesn't... [01:19] ok, i exaggerate, once a day [01:19] :-) [01:19] with windows [01:19] fhobia: ff does that for me on windows.. stfu [01:19] if a single program crashes [01:19] for me the full os dies [01:19] Everyone should be using Windows 7 RTM anyways :-P Anything before that = garbage. [01:19] compgenius999: you running 98 or soemthign? o_O [01:19] no [01:19] vista [01:19] >.> [01:19] lol98 [01:19] vista on 3.1 hardware mind you. [01:19] Rat409 (n=nobody@205.209.95.119) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [01:20] i think sony disabled the bsod on my vista :( [01:20] Even Vista has protected memory, a single app shouldn't bring the whole OS down [01:20] Emeaudroide (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-7-86.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:20] compgenius999: i think you disabled your own bsod [01:20] when it crashes, instead of going into a bsod, it sits there, crashed [01:20] Definitely has some old 3.11 files in it. There's a article about that. [01:20] like edit.com [01:20] if ur on vista, open cmd, type edit [01:20] and u'll have the dos version of notepad [01:20] lol [01:20] LSD`: anywhere I can read about this and when full support will come? [01:20] command.com :-) ? [01:21] autoexec [01:21] Protected memory?! Like a panic room? [01:21] OMFG! [01:21] lol [01:21] hah [01:21] With rubber walls and straight jackets included for free. [01:21] i can't believe protected memory exists in vista [01:21] if firefox crashes, everything crashes [01:21] i can't believe you exist. [01:21] if icechat crashes, explorer dies [01:22] if msn crashes, everything including windows crashes [01:22] probably a sure sign that you shouldn't run icechat. [01:22] You try 7 yet Comp out of curiousity? [01:22] would have [01:22] but i used up [01:22] Explorer dying is fun though. [01:22] 160gb [01:22] of space [01:22] probably because of the malware you've install. [01:22] hah malware [01:22] thats fail [01:22] WOW 160gb of space! [01:22] i have too much security shit [01:22] you secure your shit? [01:22] i have encryption software, 2 firewalls, and 3 av's [01:22] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Broken pipe [01:23] lmfao [01:23] i dont trust windows on the internet [01:23] Xgates: full support in a reasonable timeframe is dependent on Apple releasing docs for the chip. Otherwise you just have to wait for the open source hackers to reverse engineer it. I'd put my money on the latter happenign first tbh. [01:23] Encryption software is so much fun. [01:23] you have all that but can't start X? [01:23] hrm.. [01:23] uhh, start x? [01:23] Do you know Encryption software targets you for FBI/NSA/CIA when they can't crack your shit? [01:23] LOL [01:23] its open source shit [01:23] trucrypt [01:24] oooooohh, more shit. [01:24] LSD`: so how dangerous a situation is this, I wonder if I can get gkrellm to work and monitor the temps [01:24] dimm0k (n=dimm0k@pool-71-183-191-97.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:24] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:25] Gethsemane, where did you heat that? [01:25] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [01:25] speaking of firewalls etc [01:25] Cain and Abel is a great windows program. [01:25] Specially on a university campus with idiot IT guys. [01:25] Action: agentc0re slaps forehead [01:25] Was reading an article about it the other day. [01:25] my firewall blocks cain :( [01:25] i couldnt even crack my own passwords cuz it set off my firewall and av [01:26] If you send e-mails that is better than NSA encryption it flags you because they think you're doing something illegally. Don't know how true it is. [01:26] dude.. you..wt.. fuck me. [01:26] What I love though honestly. Is the fact that when Verizon, Time Warner etc installs your wireless router they use WEP :-) [01:26] firebird619: you know that missile you pointed at me earlier... i'll do you the favor of redirecting it towards me. [01:26] this is awesome [01:27] it must be bullshit time [01:27] Which is crackable in like 5 minutes. [01:27] Gethsemane: you speak of this like it is news [01:27] Xgates: temperature monitoring all goes through the SMC afaik. I don't recall seeing temps in speedfan when I last had Windows on mine. CoreTemp may work though, that gets the temperature data direct from the CPU. [01:27] Should be common knowledge to everyone here :P [01:27] WEP is crackable in 30 seconds... [01:27] antiwire: lets BS, shall we? :D [01:28] Action: agentc0re raises the flag [01:28] who's got the popcorn,mind shareing?? [01:28] I think Gethsemane is actually someone who frequents this channel. [01:28] Actually no. This is like the 5th channel I went to looking for a solution to my flash problem earlier. [01:29] Gethsemane, where did you heat that though? [01:29] well he/she is in tampabay.. so who ever is frequent in florida. [01:29] hear* fuck i cant type tonight [01:29] Which I solved but not Firefox on 64 bit field dies on every other flash site so. [01:29] Only saw Tampa? You shoul dsee closer than that :P [01:29] dartmouth: it's cool... idiots are roaming, there's nothing you can do. [01:29] The FBI encryption stuff one second. [01:30] LSD`: I read that smcfancontrol can be installed in Mac and will work until you power down, will work for another OS : http://www.eidac.de/?p=180 [01:30] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:30] jareth__ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [01:31] morning all [01:31] It's an old article but: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/05/18/cia_snooping/ [01:31] And if you google there's more. [01:32] cmair (n=cmair@host231-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:32] Gethsemane: i think you need to teach this, "google" to compgenius999. [01:32] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:32] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: [01:32] I own stock in Google I would be happy to teach you the ways of teh Google. [01:33] rhys (n=rhys@c-67-176-142-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:35] cool story bro [01:36] Gethsemane, there's alot of crap people say but i see no reliable evidence that the NSA flags anyone who sends an encrypted email. [01:36] LSD`: is there something like CoreTemp for Linux? [01:36] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-90-126.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:36] jareth__ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:37] i think people who believe that crap are overlooking an insurmountable bottleneck that occurs when actually processing collected intelligence. [01:37] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [01:37] Xgates: I think there are linux modules that do the same thing, but I'm not sure what they're called off-hand [01:37] of that magnitude anyway [01:37] Well nowadays it's not feasbile to do that stuff since everything is encrypted to a degree. [01:37] It sets them back in manpower [01:38] all I know is lm_sensors and gkrellm [01:38] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:6bf) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:38] Gethsemane, can you for a second imagining the processing power in just DETERMINING what kind of encryption is being used with that kind of volume of input? [01:39] sorry, im drinking, i'll shut up because i can't be intelligent. but that's bullshit. [01:39] Xgates: I'm also not 100% sure smcfancontrol will fully overcome the problem because even if you ramp the fans up to 100% there might still not be enough cooling capacity (the cooling set up in the MacBook is kind of woeful, presumably because the Almight Emperor of Infinite Loop demanded as few unsightly openings in the shells as possible) to overcome the lack of vcore throttling [01:39] Action: agentc0re raises glass for dartmouth [01:40] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [01:40] Processing power yeah but I don't work for the government so I wouldn't even know what they have access to these days. [01:40] agentc0re, what dipstick was in here earlier preaching about how some int. agency was watching him or something like that? what was he on about? it was also related to encryption [01:40] Gethsemane: well i hear if you put a tinfoil hat over your router, they can't read the 1's and 0's. [01:40] Gethsemane, dude, the bandwidth alone would be too much. [01:40] comhack (n=comhack@unaffiliated/comhack) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [01:41] Xgates: seems the module is simply called "coretemp". I thought that's what it was, but I wasn't sure if that was just because I was thinking FreeBSD [01:41] LSD`: at this point in time are there any safe/safer bets for a distro that gives the best support on an Intel Mac? [01:41] dartmouth: ... Damn i must have missed that. sounds like it could have been fun to watch. [01:41] agentc0re, could have sworn you were in here [01:41] I don't pay for my internet no reason to hide what I do :P Doesn't come back to me technically. [01:41] I am in here always. [01:41] well, the NSA does tap into AT&T's backbone and they filter what they want [01:41] whether or not i am "actually here" is another question. [01:42] SiegeX, i find even that hard to believe. its more believable that they say they do. [01:42] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:42] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-105-1-213.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:42] that they JUST say they do [01:42] well, there is a class action lawsuit pending for it [01:42] doesn't mean a thing [01:43] True. I don't work for them or any other agency so I don't know. But from all the stuff I've been doing lately. Man in the middle, breaking down SSL encryption among other stuff. [01:43] They could do a lot of stuff honestly. [01:43] SiegeX, i have an ex who's tried to sue me for all sorts of shit, and they keep laughing her out of court. know what I mean? [01:43] Ex wife or just gf? [01:43] ex-fiance [01:43] but your whole point is that the NSA is touting it. That is not so. [01:44] SiegeX, it could very well be [01:44] it seems way more feesible [01:44] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:44] As for detecting different encryption types like you pointed out earlier I never researched into that area. [01:44] redtricycle (n=redtricy@69.105.1.213) joined ##slackware. [01:44] Xgates: All the Linux distros are in the same boat afaik. Virtualisation might be an option, but even under OS X the machines get a bit hot under the collar :/ [01:45] Probably not even possible. [01:46] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:46] Bleh. [01:46] Vmware freezes when I try to run it [01:46] dude just the backups, from around the time they would have started monitoring AT&T would have filled storage media in volumes that wouldn't have existed for 20 years. they may have had the storage technology but they sure as hell weren't using it for that if they did. [01:46] I'm reading an old howto [01:46] and it says to compile some vmware modules [01:46] the newer version doesnt have that... [01:47] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-179-140.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:47] That's true too. Wonder what they focus on. Doubt they keep backups. Real-time maybe? [01:47] i mean can you imagine the warehouses upon warehouses full of storage media containing tcp packet dumps? [01:47] agentc0re: hahaha [01:49] hmm [01:49] Gethsemane, if they are using a filter i'd love to get my hands on a piece of a list of what words they're looking for [01:50] I can only imagine. [01:50] At the moment probably 'megan fox nude' [01:50] bombs cut terrorist that explosion shit jihad out bin-laden you're allah not muslim that iraq cool. [01:52] Maybe storage wise they keep track of stuff that was flagged and have an analyst run through it. But like you said, the backlog of just that would be crazy. [01:52] bombs do cut people. [01:52] LSD`: so how do you access coretemp mod? [01:52] Xgates: lmsensors? [01:52] im thinking about posting encrypted messages in controversial forums containing love letters to high ranking FBI officials. [01:53] dartmouth: well, such hardware exists to do just that. The class action states the fiber optic circuits were being split and routed to a 'Narus STA 6400'. So if COTS hardware exists to do just that, chances are its not fabricated [01:54] or really matrixy 'youre so vain, i bet you thought this song was about youuuu' or maybe messages from aliens telling the human race to cut the blowing-eachother-up thing [01:54] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [01:55] SiegeX, the point is, if they were able to do it, we wouldn't have heard about it. [01:55] I think they're more into intrustion and cyber attacks nowadays anyways. It's not realistic of them to filter stuff. [01:55] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:55] When there are AI robots everything will just be more complicated [01:55] even if they could do it physically i was saying that the processing bottleneck would make it infeasible [01:55] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [01:55] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:56] just imagine right now [01:56] how many lamers in IRC chat rooms, just talking about THIS there are. then add all your AOL chat rooms full of breast enhancement ads and men pretending to be women... [01:56] Blikjeham (n=Blikjeha@94.142.246.84) joined ##slackware. [01:57] Action: dartmouth glares at agentc0re [01:57] and women pretending to be children [01:57] Action: dartmouth glares at agentc0re [01:57] and dogs pretending to be men [01:57] comhack (n=comhack@unaffiliated/comhack) joined ##slackware. [01:57] Action: dartmouth glares at agentc0re [01:57] Action: firebird619 glares at dartmouth [01:57] and rocks pretending to be dartmouth [01:57] Action: dartmouth pretends to eat something off the ground [01:58] Yahoo chat rooms are nothing but bots. [01:58] agentc0re: no no no, dartmouth == rock ;) get it right man. [01:58] Action: godling eats something off the ground [01:58] bots and fbi [01:58] Action: dartmouth uhm....sits there [01:58] pireau (i=1000@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:58] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:58] phoenix's pretending to be firebird619 [01:58] female body inspectors [01:58] haha [01:58] Action: godling eats dartmouth off the ground [01:58] idiots pretending to be compgenius's [01:58] agentc0re: That's the only nicks I have now, firebird619 and phoenix^ :P [01:58] Action: dartmouth gets flagged by the NSA for being eaten [01:59] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:59] [ in bed ] [01:59] "THATS NOT NORMAL YOU ARE FLAGGED!!one-eleven!!!!11! [01:59] " [01:59] qwerty [01:59] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [01:59] s/qwerty/dvorak/ ;) [02:00] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [02:00] guten morgen :) [02:00] /sdvorak/homo [02:00] y0 slava_dp [02:00] heya firebird619 [02:00] agentc0re: omg, you can't even sed right, s/dvorak/homo/ you idiot. :P [02:00] its cool to see two intel references in here in one day i've got a wicked sweet tooth for that stuff since this last project picked up. i'm actually developing a web application that's a functional demonstration of the intelligence cycle (utilizing the boyd loop in each phase of the cycle) [02:01] bed time for me... Nite all. Sorry in advance for all my ruckus. [02:01] Action: agentc0re fails at sed [02:01] slava_dp: How's it going? [02:01] see ya agentc0re [02:01] blackorca (n=blackorc@174-152-34-93.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [02:01] horribly!! [02:01] Good night Agent. [02:01] Gethsemane: learn to tab. [02:01] flagged for what?explosive, guns, assassination, conspiracy, primers, detonators, intiators, main charge, nuclear charges, presidential motorcade hrt, platter charge, m118, claymore, infosec, msnbc, ssl, fbi, small pox, crypto ag [02:01] firebird619: teach him, will ya? [02:01] oops! [02:01] agentc0re: Which one? There's to many atm. :P [02:01] I haven't used mIRC in like 10 years though. [02:02] godling: no, looking at 6yr old porn. [02:02] lol [02:02] firebird619: ... good point. [02:02] i'd /part but i want the backlog. :D [02:02] agentc0re: good idea ;) [02:02] firebird619, fine, just got to the office. plenty of stuff to do for today heh [02:02] you forgot glenn beck and hannidy [02:02] agentc0re, yeah that'll get you flagged. find older porn.... [02:02] definitely flaggers [02:02] agentc0re: porn from 6 years ago? [02:02] LOL [02:02] you'd get flagged for saying something that you shouldn't know like 'project Blackbriar' [02:03] Action: jeev sends an asset to SiegeX's home [02:03] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Client Quit [02:03] http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/carnivore_and_eschelon_keywords.htm [02:03] SiegeX, i should probably stop trying to pull up walker AFB on google maps then lol [02:03] spook: your nickname is an eschelon keyword [02:03] what is that, next to groom lake? [02:03] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [02:04] Even has a link to e-mail it to people you know, that's awesome. [02:04] SiegeX, yeah it's where we put all our experimental planes (my own theory) near roswell [02:04] jumperbo1 (n=jumperbo@gl206.websiteproject.net) joined ##slackware. [02:05] man, compiling awn-extras from source is a bitch [02:05] Reticenti, i've noticed that... [02:05] Reticenti, you should make a slackbuild [02:05] dartmouth: have you done it? [02:05] there's a lot of dependencies [02:05] mostly gnome deps. [02:05] LSD`: in /var/log/messages I have this: 'applesmc: Apple MacBook Pro 5 detected:', 'applesmc: - Model with accelerometer', 'applesmc: - Model with light sensors and backlight' 'applesmc: - Model with 20 temperature sensors' [02:05] Reticenti, no i just said 'fuck it' after a while and then started sending love letters to alienBOB [02:05] lol [02:06] did he respond? [02:06] i think he feels the same way but just doesn't want to admit it from what i can tell in the restraining order affadavit [02:06] with a name like 'walker' that reminds me chuck noris. Maybe thats why the planes are so quiet, with chuck norris in the pilot seat there is no need for an engine, he can just roundhouse kick the plane into mach speeds [02:06] LSD`: you don't think applesmc is safe enough? [02:06] i've been going at it for at least an hour and a half [02:06] lol [02:07] Nick change: dartmouth -> cpunches [02:07] Nick change: cpunches -> dartmouth [02:07] dododomo (n=alpha@adsl-69-105-239-139.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:08] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:08] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [02:09] god can you imagine the crap people are gonna say when chuck norris dies? [02:09] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [02:09] why is he getting rdy? [02:09] Chuck Norris is immortal though. [02:09] they should do a reality show with flava flave and chuck norris [02:09] he has god-aids. [02:09] i hate them both and i hate reality shows.. [02:09] that being said, i'd watch thatm. [02:09] better yet, put t-pain and some guns in random places of the house, lets see who kills who first [02:10] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD89C78.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:10] Wasn't there a news show awhile back where they had Norris on and they read him a lot of the Norris jokes. [02:10] i'd kind of like to see a rambo-norris celeb deathmatch, only real. [02:10] morning [02:10] If you have five dollars and Chuck Norris has five dollars, Chuck Norris has more money than you. [02:10] lol [02:11] www.chucknorrisfacts.com [02:11] slackytude, NO GOOD MORNING FOR U. [02:11] yeah just found it on youtube [02:11] dartmouth: :( [02:11] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:11] Chuck Norris destroyed the periodic table, because he only recognizes the element of surprise. [02:11] hahahahaha [02:11] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:11] well that sucked. [02:11] who did I piss off? [02:12] god [02:12] eh [02:12] yeah [02:13] and me [02:13] and slashdot is down [02:13] NO GOOD MORNING 4 U! [02:13] Chuck Norris once shot down a German fighter plane with his finger by yelling 'Bang!'. [02:13] haha. sorry. [02:13] thank god /. died finally [02:13] haha [02:13] maybe it will last [02:14] what am I supposed to read instead? [02:14] slackytude, my blog [02:14] slackytude, morning =) [02:15] ok tired of reading about round house kicks [02:15] When Chuck Norris sends in his taxes, he sends blank forms and includes only a picture of himself crouched and ready to attack. Chuck Norris has never had to pay taxes, EVER. [02:15] heh [02:15] But yeah Flava Flav and Norris. I endorse that. [02:16] jumperboy (n=jumperbo@gl206.websiteproject.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:16] i'd really like to cheat on this WoW server spermik. i just started playing the game and i hate it but i can't stop playing [02:16] Gethsemane: the best "Chuck Norris" facts were created by Chuck Norris himself, but he never submitted any of them to any online forums because he dosen't believe in any form of submission [02:16] y0 slava_dp [02:16] AkumaTw0 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:16] hahah twolf [02:16] lol [02:17] Chuck Norris is currently suing NBC, claiming "Law & Order" are trademarked names for his right and left legs. [02:17] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425734.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:18] There's too many norris jokes. [02:18] lol [02:18] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:19] They wanted to put Chuck Norris on Mount Rushmore but the granite wasn't tough enough for his beard. [02:19] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:19] My neighbor has a keg of Guinness and a keg of Fat Tire, I had trouble walking home [02:20] Good evening fellas. Is there a mplayer SlackBuild out there somewhere? I've looked in several repositories and couldn't find it. Should be for slack13.0 - 32bit [02:20] AkumaTw0 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [02:20] so ugh [02:20] level3 is going nuts [02:20] everytime I'm mean to slackytude [02:21] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:21] i get disconnected from everything [02:21] slackmagic: http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=mplayer&sv= [02:21] Isn't VLC media player the better player on Linux? Unless mplayer streams or something I don't know of. [02:21] godling: yep, looked at that already. None out there yet for 13.0 [02:21] mplayer is included with slackware as of 13 [02:22] twolf: duh! rofl [02:22] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [02:22] even if it weren't, all you'd ahve to do is change the version number in the slackbuild [02:23] download the relevant source tarball and you're good to go [02:23] has anyone here successfully built awn-extras. [02:23] godling: yeah, was going to do that but had to ask :D [02:23] ? [02:23] sure [02:23] because typing that question in the channel is less work than changing the version number in the slackbuild. ;P [02:24] Action: slackmagic grins [02:24] Needs the exercise. [02:24] Have to burn off them pizzas and hot pockets somehow. [02:24] Gethsemane, are you stalking me? [02:24] I prefer slaughtering innocents [02:24] Action: slackmagic rushes to check on his pepperoni pizza [02:24] great cardio [02:24] It's all I ever live on. [02:24] Weird. [02:25] damn I need pizza [02:25] I need some freaking a/c in this joint. [02:25] Been that way all my life. I think it's the gamer side of me. [02:26] Speaking of which Aion waiting queues suck ass. [02:27] there's an offtopic channel [02:30] blackthorne (n=bthorne@unaffiliated/blackthorne) left irc: Client Quit [02:30] I love the weeks I have 4 10 hour days with 3 day weekends [02:30] fox mulder uses slackware [02:31] anyone using grub on Slack13? when I install it then try to run it, the term comes back saying /usr/sbin/grub not found when it's in there ... [02:31] errrr [02:32] ienh (n=ienh@rennes.elikya.com) joined ##slackware. [02:32] Xgates: are you the same Xgates that used to be here years ago? [02:32] Action: Xgates is the ONLY Xgates :) [02:32] blackthorne (n=bthorne@unaffiliated/blackthorne) joined ##slackware. [02:33] jamess__ (n=me@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:33] hi [02:33] wertik_rus (n=werti@69.172.130.217) joined ##slackware. [02:33] yes its me in the flesh :) [02:33] Xgates: welcome back [02:33] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:33] I just installed a slack 13.0 and made it goto x automatic but for some reason it is not going to x so it just hangs at reboot , is there a way at boot i can set it to start at initab 3 instead so i just get login? [02:33] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@96.250.220.91) joined ##slackware. [02:33] I have never used grub [02:34] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@96.21.131.161) joined ##slackware. [02:34] you can tell lilo the runlevel [02:34] y0 slackytude [02:34] jamess__: yes ,at boot where you put the kernel image (say it's named Linux): Linux 3 [02:34] well it might be a SHORT stay but thanks, I just bought a macbook pro, so seeing how Linux will go on it, so far good, except for the lack of SMC support that has me worried if I could fry this thing.... [02:34] y0 firebird619 [02:34] ok let me try [02:34] slackytude: How goes? [02:35] firebird619: need to fix some stuff in the html version of the documentation [02:35] firebird619: same as usual [02:35] firebird619: you? why new nick? [02:35] slackytude: Isn't it always? :P [02:36] *sigh* [02:36] slackytude: I dropped my silvergold account (I don't need two) and so that included fire|bird (although I like fire|bird) so, atm, it's firebird619 and phoenix^ [02:36] Is there a way to change the nick of the account without making a new account? [02:37] lol [02:37] yes [02:37] oh noes! fireird is gone? thats terrible [02:37] lol [02:37] fire|bird is, atm [02:38] you sign on as the username you want, then identify with nickserv and add the nickname to your account [02:38] just like you did with your other nickname [02:38] godling: but you can only have 1 nick grouped to your account, right? [02:38] firebird619: where did you get that idea? [02:38] can't you have n nicks associated with another nick? [02:39] godling: I read it somewhere. :P [02:39] let me see here. [02:39] jeev's blog? [02:39] :P [02:39] Nick change: firebird619 -> fire|bird [02:39] hahaha [02:39] ^-^ [02:40] haha, sweet. Thank you godling [02:40] ron1n (n=ron1n@75.97.224.176.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [02:41] hey guys, whats the most amount of ram I can use in slackware 13 without going 64 bit or enabling pae? [02:41] hey has anyone written a good slackware howto for optimizing your system boot time? like making the rc.d scripts output all pretty and efficiently and cleaning out the little stuff that you don't need? [02:41] ron1n: that's not a slackware issue - that's a kernel issue [02:41] godling: I remember too, trying to do that a year or so ago and iirc, I got a message, "There's already a nick grouped to this account" This is great. :) [02:41] ron1n: <4GB [02:41] slackytude: thanks [02:41] dartmouth: don't have a link handy, but yes - there's notes on the web about it [02:41] dartmouth: go write on [02:42] s/on/one/ [02:42] alisonken1noc: I realise that, sorry if I asked in the wrong place. [02:42] dartmouth, vim /etc/rc.d/rc.M and comment out all the stuff you don't need. then recompile the whole system for your $ARCH :-D [02:42] does huge-smp have PAE enabled? [02:42] nope [02:42] no problem - as slackytude notes, 32-bit range is <4G [02:42] alisonken1noc, i'd love to see that if you know what search terms you used to find it [02:43] PAE is a damn hack anyway [02:43] I see, alrighty [02:43] thanks guys [02:43] oh, one more thing [02:43] dartmouth: that shouldn't be hard. optimize slackware, or something of the like. [02:43] bosanac (i=mdfk@80.77.156.104) left irc: [02:43] what i'd really like is to have various videos of my gf doing cat crawls to indicate which part of the boot it's in [02:44] have you guys really noticed any speed improvements running a 64bit Slackware over a 32bit Slackware? on a 64bit machine? [02:44] ron1n: compiling is faster, for me anyway. [02:44] ron1n: only in computational heavy tasks, such as video encoding [02:44] hey twolf [02:44] alrighty, looks like I'm going 32bit to save me the headache [02:44] hey fire|bird [02:44] thanks for all your help [02:44] 64bit also doesn't have as much support without a lot of tweaking [02:45] My keyboard actually just installed itself on 64bit slack so I dunno. [02:45] I'm still starting at the screen lol. [02:45] Gethsemane: 64 bit took no tweaking to work perfectly here [02:45] dartmouth: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/optimize-slack-boot-process-init-scripts-525364/page4.html <--- linuxquestions.org thread that includes what one guy did to optimize his boot process [02:45] Depends on the hardware I'm sure, my computer is a Dell so. [02:45] I'm already screwed. [02:45] Dell manufactured mboard, dell bios. I hate Dell never buying another one. [02:46] Gethsemane: My moms dellbuntu is still chugging a log fine [02:46] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:46] for desktops I always put my own machines togeter [02:46] twolf: I just did that myself [02:47] dartmouth: search term I used is "optimize slackware boot time" --- another one would be "optimize linux boot time" and modify to suit slackware rc scripts [02:47] Yeah I should have considering it's so cheap nowadays but bought this in 2004. [02:47] although my financial ADD made it kind of difficult to finish it =P [02:47] I'd take a dell laptop though [02:47] Currently on a Toshiba Satellite atm. [02:47] VirtualBox seems *really* nice so far [02:47] It's so snappy [02:47] alisonken1noc, i found that one using 'IM IN UR BOOT PROZESS, KILLIN UR SCRIPTZ' [02:47] using currently and atm in the same sentence is redundant [02:47] VBox is the free one right? next best to VMware? [02:48] twolf: dellbuntu's are put together just for Ubuntu, which obviously runs the same kernel as Slackware. It's a great way to know everything works and is supported. [02:48] I got a thinkpad, it will be difficult to buy anything else after enjoying it so much [02:48] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-112.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:48] dartmouth: good one [02:48] twolf: I want one. [02:48] Gethsemane: yes VBOX is free, yes its awesome, however it comes in the open source flavor and the binary flavor [02:48] There are two types of people in this world; those who find notes...and those who leave them. [02:48] alisonken1noc, im sorry; thats uncalled for. i actually have NO sense of humor so I fake one to help with my interrelations. [02:48] vmware offers free stuff as well [02:48] when they put out laptops with I7's I will probably get a new one [02:48] why do people capitalize things like that/ [02:49] Thanks. I'll check it out Ronin. [02:49] dartmouth: no problem. you should see some of the threads that get started here :) [02:49] lol [02:49] I7 laptop with 8GB ram will be nice [02:49] antiwire: Did you find that on a note, or write a note about that? :) [02:49] dartmouth: you can't fake a sense of humor [02:50] AkumaTw0 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:50] godling, i do pretty well with it. when im sober people find me funny. histerical at times. [02:50] Speaking of leaving notes. It's a lot of fun covering your roomates car in nothing but post-it notes. [02:50] dartmouth: so that means you have a sense of humor. [02:50] godling: but it's only humor if both parties agree it's humor. one of the wife's favorite sayings to the kid is "don't encourage your father!" [02:50] godling, no but im smart. [02:50] There's a company here selling a "laptop" with an i7. It's a desknote so it's HUUUUUGE [02:50] I would find more fun in going fishing or a hike in the woods [02:50] ok, Gethsemane has been here before [02:50] I would like to have a laptop for field work [02:51] light, lot of batter power, hard to break [02:51] slackytude: The job I'm in now requires that I have my own laptop for field use [02:51] http://www.pioneercomputers.com.au/products/info.asp?c1=3&c2=15&id=2900 <- I'll wait for Arrandal thanks [02:51] What do you do anti? [02:51] stomp baby seals [02:52] yup, a professional seal stomper. [02:52] dartmouth: Are you Vulcan? [02:52] Navy people might get mad at you for saying stuff like that. [02:52] adeodatus (n=RF@92.82.88.65) joined ##slackware. [02:52] oh really? [02:52] Stomping Seals and what not. [02:52] a single tear rolls down my cheek [02:52] Vulcans are logical [02:52] and you need a laptop to stomp seals [02:52] godling, pretty much [02:52] without emotion [02:53] Gethsemane: not Navy seals [02:53] :P [02:53] baby seals? [02:53] I know. Heh. [02:53] godling, im probably closer to romulan [02:53] dartmouth: If you can crack a joke, though, you know what's funny. [02:53] they're like vulcans only use their logic for trolling purposes [02:53] If you know what's funny, you have a sense of humor. [02:53] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:53] unless your humor is like mine [02:54] godling, everything's funny until someone shits on your chest. [02:54] then it's an orgy? [02:54] no, that would be a 'coney island' [02:54] cleveland steamers for everyone! [02:54] Gethsemane: It's not the Navy people that get mad at seal stomping jokes, it's the environmentalists and such [02:54] someone I know claims to be without emotions [02:55] godling, they're a sociopath. run. [02:55] he's either completely full of shit or a sociopath [02:55] haha beat me to it [02:55] good sociopaths can fake it though. [02:55] HAH [02:55] Action: dartmouth hides under the rock that someone says he is [02:56] hey you cant hide under yourself [02:56] yes you can because i said so [02:56] sociopaths usually aren't jackasses though [02:56] i resemble that remark [02:57] im pretty sure im not a sociopath because i experience guilt like no one's business. [02:57] vukovar (n=vukovar@CPE-121-214-57-207.lnse4.win.bigpond.net.au) left irc: [02:57] I don't get this I have all the dev stuff installed and when I run ./configure I get this -----> C compiler cannot create executables [02:57] i'll say awful shit in the heat of a moment and then feel so guilty that I kick dirt whenever you're around for months. [02:57] i will be damned if i say it though [02:58] dartmouth: I was the one that called you a rock. ;) [02:58] 2Xgates: are you trying to compile 32-bit on a 64-bit machine? [02:58] Hmm what would make a keyboard be disabled when startx runs? [02:58] sounds like it [02:58] Xgates: ^^^ [02:58] It works up to that point. [02:58] ? [02:58] Gethsemane: wrong driver specified for core input keyboard [02:58] ? [02:58] ? [02:58] ! [02:59] $ [02:59] Action: godling stabs you [02:59] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.155) left irc: "Leaving" [02:59] Xgates: on your "cannont create executable" compile -- are you trying to cross compile? like 32-bit binary on a 64-bit machine? [02:59] /. is back up [02:59] not for long [02:59] godling: you who? :) [03:00] it's grub so yeah grub-0.96, I guess I wasn't thinking of that [03:00] hehe [03:00] you you [03:00] jamess__ (n=me@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) left irc: [03:00] who you? :P [03:00] slackytude: 503 biatch [03:00] slashdot uses varnish? [03:01] works for me [03:01] slackytude: click on an article link [03:01] Xgates: [03:02] ? [03:02] sorry hold on [03:02] there it goes [03:02] godling: works [03:03] Xgates: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib [03:03] slackytude: didn't a minute ago :) [03:03] 'Error 503 Service Unavailable' [03:03] ahhh thanks [03:04] godling: lies! [03:04] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:04] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-136-136.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [03:04] slackytude: like the cake [03:05] yes, that was a lie too [03:05] and your social life [03:06] sorry, too soon? [03:07] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:07] have fun kids! [03:07] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [03:10] dchmelik (i=1000@66.243.232.122) left irc: "Leaving." [03:14] my social life? [03:14] dont have one [03:14] I used to, but I cant hardly remeber [03:17] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-104-216.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:18] agris (n=agris@213.175.111.67) joined ##slackware. [03:18] hello [03:18] what's a social life? I'm married [03:19] could someone say what was package for hardware detection tools, not gui [03:19] that is, in which package [03:19] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-112.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:19] if you know the program name, then "grep /var/log/packages [03:20] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [03:20] i don't remember.. [03:20] wertik_rus (n=werti@69.172.130.217) left ##slackware ("#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)"). [03:21] makes it a little harder then [03:24] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:24] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-104-216.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:24] [Kairos] (n=Kairos@unaffiliated/kairos) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:24] [Kairos] (n=Kairos@unaffiliated/kairos) joined ##slackware. [03:25] kpr (n=kpr@unaffiliated/kpr) joined ##slackware. [03:25] for x in $FOO; if [ -f $x ] then echo $x ; fi; done; [03:25] where is my error? [03:25] bash: syntax error near unexpected token `if' [03:26] for x in $FOO; do ... [03:26] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-104-216.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:26] Xgates (n=Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: "Leaving" [03:26] forgot the '] ; then' semicolon? [03:27] nah, doesnt work either [03:27] am I missing do [03:27] slackytude: it's both of them I think [03:27] the other possibility : "for x in $FOO ; [ -x $FOO ] && echo $x ; done [03:27] for x in $FOO; do if [ -f $x ]; then echo $x ; fi; done; [03:27] that works [03:27] missed the do [03:29] yeah, tldp.org/LDP/abs/ works fine :) [03:30] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-72-43.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:32] linXea (n=e@nomad-ult-c4185.data.slu.se) joined ##slackware. [03:32] linXea (n=e@nomad-ult-c4185.data.slu.se) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:33] nix_chixor (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [03:34] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [03:36] bash is so much better than batch [03:37] batch is history, now it's cscript which is good too [03:37] you mean powershell? [03:37] aam, never used it [03:38] adrenaline (n=repsol@tuxhacker/adrenaline) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:38] adeodatus (n=RF@92.82.88.65) left irc: Client Quit [03:38] Windows Powershell [03:39] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [03:43] abs is not of high quality. try the bash guide that's available in the #bash topic. it's way better. [03:49] powershell is way better than batch or vbs [03:49] kinda weird to use tho [03:53] mornin [03:53] morning tewmten [03:53] Probably because of its object orientativeness. [03:53] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [03:55] =) [03:55] powershell is object-oriented? lol [03:55] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-136-136.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:56] blackorca (n=blackorc@174-152-34-93.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:57] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.67) joined ##slackware. [04:01] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:01] anyone uses laptop-mode? [04:01] ron1n (n=ron1n@75.97.224.176.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left ##slackware. [04:02] i read you need some tools that will activate it for you [04:02] is there a manual way? [04:03] kpr (n=kpr@unaffiliated/kpr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:04] Later everyone. Take care. :) [04:04] fire|bird (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."). [04:06] agris (n=agris@213.175.111.67) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:06] nix_chixor (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:07] mupi (n=mupi@84.20.246.189) joined ##slackware. [04:07] laptop mode? [04:09] how can I make ttyS0 available for other then root? [04:10] jescis: eh? [04:11] ron1n (n=ron1n@75.97.224.176.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [04:12] slackytude, I'll have to log in as root to use ADTPro or am I supposed to copy the rxtx so file somewhere? [04:12] lspci is reporting I have an Atheros 5001 wificard, after install what driver will Slackware use by default? [04:13] also, a more generic question, what networking stack does huge-smp use? [04:13] jescis: do a ls -l /dev/ttyS0 [04:13] jescis: it should be owned by dialout group [04:13] jescis: so, become a member of it [04:13] ron1n: the linux networking stack.... [04:14] slackytude: which one lol [04:14] mac80211? [04:14] slackytude, it's owned by root. I get it(sort of) [04:14] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [04:14] crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 64 2009-09-18 10:52 /dev/ttyS0 [04:14] owned by root and dialout [04:15] slackytude, I'll have to change it to that [04:15] that wont be much use, will reset after next reboot [04:16] jescis: which slack is that? [04:16] 13.0 [04:16] slackytude, /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode [04:16] okay, easier one, how do I list pci id's from the command line? [04:16] ron1n, yes, mac80211 it is. [04:16] I think AR5001 is a generic name for the chip series [04:16] slava_dp: thank you [04:17] jescis: could you do a ls -l of it ? [04:18] slava_dp: you should be able to echo into it [04:18] slackytude, yep. just don't know what value is sane. [04:18] let me check [04:18] ron1n, either ath5k or ath9k. [04:18] slava_dp: awesome thanks [04:19] now I just need to figure out if my chip is supported under ath5k [04:19] how can I find out what specific chip I have? lspci just says AR5001 [04:19] ron1n, lspci -vv [04:19] hrad (i=4e889aa0@gateway/web/freenode/x-kaouacnpgpbpdeaj) joined ##slackware. [04:19] its quite a bit of info =P Anything specific I can grep for? [04:20] http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Laptop-mode [04:20] redtricycle (n=redtricy@69.105.1.213) left irc: "leaving" [04:20] just look for the pci id of the card then find it on the ath5k website, they list them. [04:20] please could anybody tell me how to replace all occurences of "..\XML\" in files [04:21] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@96.250.220.91) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [04:21] slackytude, I did do it. at 03:15:20 CST [04:21] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@96.250.220.91) joined ##slackware. [04:21] with ../XML/ [04:22] I would do it like this sed 's/..\XML\/../XML//g' FILE > TMPFILE && mv TMPFILE FILE [04:22] jescis: uh, is it owned by dialout? it should be [04:22] but don't know what to do with the slashes [04:22] hrad, sed 's%..\XML\%../XML/%g [04:23] slackytude, no by root.I can change it though [04:23] sed can use any delimiter [04:23] sed s/..\/XML\//..\/XML\//g [04:23] % or # will do the job [04:23] jescis: just try and become a member of dialout [04:24] can I make lspci just give me vendor and device ID's? [04:25] I'm really sorry guys, I just found it in the man page. [04:25] ron1n: with grep [04:25] slava_dp: and is if should be for all files in a directory ? [04:25] slackytude: or -n [04:25] ron1n, man lspci [04:25] oh nice [04:25] Action: slava_dp was late [04:25] xargs s%..\XML\%../XML/%g ...but what to do with copying of the files [04:26] ls | xargs [04:26] hrad, just as you wrote it ^^ [04:26] slava_dp: yupp, reading it now, thanks [04:26] hrad, what is your exact need? [04:26] ls | xargs s%..\XML\%../XML/%g ? [04:26] hrad, never parse ls output. [04:27] hrad, use find instead. [04:27] I have bunch of files with this string and need to replace it with the ../XML/ string in all those files [04:28] find . -exec 'sed "s%..\XML\%../XML/%g"' {} \; should work [04:28] need sed -i [04:29] be sure to have backups [04:29] find . -exec 'sed -i "s%..\XML\%../XML/%g"' {} \; [04:29] ? [04:30] be sure to have backups [04:30] hrad, join #bash, they will tell you the proper way. [04:30] slackytude, I still can't use it with rxtx and ADTPro :\ [04:30] jescis: are you part of the dialout group now? did you logout and login again, which you need to do after joining a group? [04:31] slackytude, yes I added my name to it in /etc/group [04:31] did you logout? [04:31] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-133-218.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [04:32] no I didn't restart any of my other logins :\ [04:33] Action: jescis would be require to restart X, irssi and all :\ [04:33] required* [04:36] stupid, stupid question but I guess there isn't any, init 0 is shutdown now right? [04:37] yep [04:37] init 6 is reboot [04:38] arighty [04:38] hrad (i=4e889aa0@gateway/web/freenode/x-kaouacnpgpbpdeaj) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [04:38] but apparently I can't call it from the install dvd because its inittab is much different the one is post install. [04:38] undterstandably so [04:39] alrighty, done for now. Thanks guys [04:39] ron1n, why do you want to call init 0 from the install dvd? :) [04:40] just use halt or poweroff or shutdown -h now etc [04:40] or ctrl+alt+del [04:40] slava_dp: control alt delete oddly placed on this laptop [04:40] it tells me shutdown command not found [04:40] ahh, great :) [04:40] power button makes a loud beep, not so great at 4:40am [04:41] 4:40..... the great time when cron jobs run.... [04:41] but I managed to find the three finger solute in the dark regardless [04:41] haha not for me, thats when the real work starts [04:41] good luck then, ron1n. [04:42] slava_dp: thanks =] [04:42] it seems I'm done for now, see you guys later [04:42] ron1n (n=ron1n@75.97.224.176.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left ##slackware. [04:44] Braintix (n=bck@unaffiliated/braintix) left irc: "Leaving" [04:44] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [04:47] Action: jescis should have read the install text file for RXTX first m:) [04:48] azarion (i=anahel@unaffiliated/anahel) joined ##slackware. [04:52] braintix (n=bck@unaffiliated/braintix) joined ##slackware. [04:53] anahel (i=anahel@unaffiliated/anahel) left irc: Nick collision from services. [04:53] Nick change: azarion -> anahel [04:56] Gethsemane (n=Gethsema@cpe-173-168-248-159.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: "http://irc2go.com/" [04:59] would rxtx jar file go into jre1.6.0_16/lib/ or somewhere in java/* ? [05:00] anahel (i=anahel@unaffiliated/anahel) left irc: [05:01] anahel (i=anahel@unaffiliated/anahel) joined ##slackware. [05:01] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [05:02] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [05:03] jescis: works now? [05:05] hmm.... when i set hdd parameters via hdparm, do they persist across reboots? [05:06] slackytude, no, I have rxtxcomm.jar and an *.so file I still don't know where to put it even after reading the install text file. Because it says to put it in /jre/lib/ and it's nowhere to be found on Slackware 13.0 as I can see :\ [05:06] slava_dp: nope, some distros have an init script you can use to set hdparm parameters, but I'm not sure if Slackware is among them. In any case though, you shouldn't have to set hdparm parameters manually. If you do, somethign else is wrong and hdparm is just a band-aid [05:06] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:07] LSD`, well i would like to play with hdd power management using hdparm, nothing fancy. [05:08] MrJacks0n (i=Mr@173-86-21-152.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [05:09] pwc101 (n=pwc101@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:09] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-38-248.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:09] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:10] jescis: might be /usr/jre linked to current java runtime? [05:13] eny one tryid compile xmlrpc-c on slackware64 ? i get this XmlRpcCpp.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC [05:13] slackytude, would rxtxcomm.jar adon't know?go into jre1.6.0_16/lib/ or somewhere in java/* ? [05:14] oops [05:14] mupi (n=mupi@84.20.246.189) left irc: "Leaving" [05:14] alisonken1noc, Don't know [05:15] I was looking at slackbiulds page for RXTX too just now :\ [05:16] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [05:16] slackbuilds* [05:18] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86-42-188-245-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [05:20] jescis: no clue, sorry [05:20] rrh_ (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [05:21] slackytude, it's ok :) [05:21] anyone know where $java-home is? [05:22] columbia [05:22] lots of coffee there [05:22] XD [05:22] MrJacks0n (i=Mr@173-86-21-152.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:22] MrJackson (n=MrJackso@173-86-23-152.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [05:22] jescis: usually /usr/lib64/jdk1.6.0_16/jre/ or /usr/lib64/jre1.6.0_16/jre/ [05:23] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [05:23] vbatts, you /usr/lib/ I'm on 32-bit still >.> [05:24] oh and for the room, my kde-4.3.1 (x86 and x86_64) are on rsync now at cardinal.lizella.net::vbatts/kde4-packages/4.3.1/ as well [05:24] mean* [05:25] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-133-218.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:25] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-134-171.ip38.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "leaving" [05:26] yskapell (n=gkapel@195.134.89.99) joined ##slackware. [05:26] hello guys [05:26] how r u? [05:26] jescis: i take that back, its to a symlink [05:27] jescis: $ echo $JAVA_HOME [05:27] /usr/lib/java [05:27] thanks, vbatts. will get 4.3.1 today then =) [05:27] slava_dp: good, enjoy [05:28] already out new pkgs of k4.3 ? [05:28] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-164-61-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:29] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:29] I creat jre and subfolders/dsubdirectories? [05:30] under /usr/lib/java/ that is.. [05:30] create* [05:30] get: they are unofficial builds [05:30] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.65.99) joined ##slackware. [05:31] if they are fine, its a good news to test them [05:31] jescis: jre subdirectories? i'm sorry, but what are you trying to accomplish again? [05:32] im searching for some programms those i miss from last 12.2 in this new 13 [05:32] such as kaffeine (dvb-t) and kvpnc [05:32] vbatts, using ADTPro to communicate with my Apple IIe as a regular user without being root. [05:32] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425734.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:34] vbatts, it has the files required for it to run in all three environments... Windows, Mac OSX, and Linux [05:35] so with the default java of slackware what is it reporting, and which version of slack are you using? [05:35] yskapell (n=gkapel@195.134.89.99) left irc: "leaving" [05:36] get: have at it http://kaffeine.kde.org/?q=download and http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/kvpnc?content=12570 ;0) [05:36] vbatts, I'm using 13.0, I get permissions, and RXTX not installed errors [05:37] last time i tried to compile kvpnc on a -current from july it doest run, no errors in compile, but the final software didnt work [05:37] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@petrostsi1.ath.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:37] i couldnt select the conf file for import [05:37] greetings [05:38] the cisco pcf [05:38] which the files to get RXTX running is included with the ADTPro packageyou get from sourceforge.net [05:38] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:38] The-Croupier, hello :) [05:38] get, since i saw cisco... do you know how to get assign a name to an ip? windows machine, 2switches in different places.. [05:39] ow! vbatts many thx, last time ive searched on the kaffeine site, it wasnt ready for K4 [05:39] i wanted to cisco-1/pc1 to be able to see cisco2/pc2 without having to put the ip..but the name of the pc..via vpn..can it be done? [05:40] thats surely configurable into the Cisco IOS isnt it? [05:40] adding some virtual channels or routings [05:40] such as vpn [05:40] Internal Operating System? ;) [05:41] Cisco IOS, thats the OS called onto a cisco device [05:41] jescis: well if you look through the adtpro.sh script that comes in the tar.gz, it sets it's own environment varilable for the RXTX stuff. i'm not able to adequatley simulate what you are seeing because they've got some 32bit RXTX library here, and i'm on slackware64 [05:41] java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /home/vbatts/Downloads/ADTPro-1.1.3/lib/rxtx/rxtx-2.2pre2-local/i686-pc-linux-gnu/librxtxSerial.so: /home/vbatts/Downloads/ADTPro-1.1.3/lib/rxtx/rxtx-2.2pre2-local/i686-pc-linux-gnu/librxtxSerial.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 (Possible cause: architecture word width mismatch) thrown while loading gnu.io.RXTXCommDriver [05:41] cool :o [05:42] anyone has clue to get workin with db an upek touch-strip sensor? [05:42] pragma_ (n=pragma@unaffiliated/pragma/x-109842) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:42] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [05:42] to implement it on kdm or so [05:43] vbatts, I can pastbin what I get if you don't mind? :) [05:43] pragma_ (n=pragma@blackshell.com) joined ##slackware. [05:44] Nick change: pragma_ -> Guest16261 [05:45] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.185) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [05:48] jescis: are you 64 bit? [05:49] vbatts, http://pastebin.ca/1578988 [05:49] vbatts, no, I can't afford it >.> [05:50] bah [05:50] a lot of machine are 64bit and don't display it and people don't even realize it [05:50] so was the case with the dell i'm using [05:51] $ sudo dmidecode | grep "64-bit capable" [05:51] 64-bit capable [05:52] vbatts thanks for the dmidecode hint; [05:52] I know my shit! I know I'm on 32-bit. Idon't need people putting me with computer ignoramous' >:( [05:53] it just proves more to be how really automagic configuring the kernel should be. [05:53] to be/to me [05:53] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [05:53] as alienBOB had said in an LQ post of his, if grep lm /proc/cpuinfo returns results, the machine is 64bit capable [05:53] at least, i trust this is correct info :) [05:53] and as many people said before him [05:54] wow my cpu can do 3g; at 2.2G now [05:54] can use L3 too [05:54] lm is long mode, yes, that cpuflag denotes 64-bit capability [05:54] MJSthat (n=root@adsl-68-89-238-19.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [05:54] jescis: wow, easy killer. just talking here. [05:54] vbatts, ok :) [05:54] do many people here use snort, or some kind of NIDS? [05:55] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [05:55] nooper, I can make snorting noises with my nose... I don't need an app for it ;) [05:56] jescis: thats a bizarre error. but i see you've got ADTPro-1.1.2, it may be worth a try to go get their 1.1.3 download and try again [05:56] jescis: not all of us are so talented [05:56] mine is not 64b capa [05:57] vbatts, it has been working previously, But I'll look into it :) [05:57] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [05:57] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]" [05:58] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@96.250.220.91) left irc: [05:58] jescis: k, well i've got to get back to work now. [05:58] Action: vbatts afk [05:58] Quiznos, mine either ;) [05:59] and I knew it before using grep lm /proc/cpuinfo ;) [06:03] KillerV (i=1000@bhe200150031201.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [06:09] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [06:09] here's an update with the newADTPro 1.1.3 http://pastebin.ca/1579005 [06:10] If anyone can help... Be much apreciated :) [06:11] blackula_ (i=1000@97.81.105.128) joined ##slackware. [06:11] http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/09/22/blood-powered-lamp-makes-you-bleed-for-your-light/ [06:11] emo lamp [06:11] emo lamp? [06:11] XD [06:12] rofl [06:13] MJSthat (n=root@adsl-68-89-238-19.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:15] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:15] blackula (i=1000@97.81.105.128) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:16] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [06:18] sirslacker (n=sirslack@tmo-101-33.customers.d1-online.com) joined ##slackware. [06:20] guys any idea about how i can put a certificate with wicd on slackware for wpa2 connection? [06:23] certificate for wpa2? [06:23] usually it's the passphrase or hexkey that get's entered [06:24] i think he's using eap [06:24] ah [06:25] not sure if wicd is setup yet for advanced configurations like that [06:25] in wpa_supplicant its as easy as client_cert=, not sure if or how to do in wicd [06:29] willca (n=willca@67.171.42.234) left irc: "Leaving" [06:30] anyone have a favorite way to optimize a pdf (as in reduce size of)? [06:30] looking for an open linux solution, of course. [06:32] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl6-211-136.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:33] maybe pdfedit? by removing some of its contents? [06:33] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-166-2.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Nick collision from services. [06:33] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [06:33] aha, that's a good idea - hadn't considered it [06:34] otherwise i dont think its possible to reduce its size. other than zipping it. and tbh i dont know how much space that saves either [06:34] sirslacker, alisonken1 wicd can use certificates for EAP [06:35] You may have to create a new template - I had to do that for the corporate wireless network I use at work [06:36] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [06:37] sahko, adobe acrobat can do it, it has optimize for web, etc. [06:37] alienBOB, you rock sir [06:37] was hoping for a non-adobe way to do the same stuff [06:37] alienBOB: thanks - have to dig some more since I just started using wicd on my laptop with 13 and haven't used it much yet [06:38] yeah most tools available in linux only deal with the viewing part of pdfs. other than using pdf2html of some other format i think pdfedit is the only tool thats capable of doing such things. but im no expert [06:38] alienBOB, hey would you mind if i used your README_CRYPT.TXT as a source for a document i'm going to be writing? [06:39] TwinReverb: as long as you mention the source document, no problem [06:39] alienBOB ok cool thanks. of course i'd mention you! 8-) [06:40] sahko you're probably right - it's not so important to me, was just wondering if anyone had a cheap way to do that [06:40] alisonken1noc, sirslacker: this is my wicd template: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/UOO6YY75.html [06:41] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [06:41] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [06:41] alienBOB: thanks [06:42] For this kind of auth, you will need a CA certificate. Your network admin should be able to give you that. Without, wicd will not authenticate [06:44] alienBOB: with that, is the ESSID you use broadcasted or hidden? [06:45] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.59.14) joined ##slackware. [06:46] Here in the corporate network it is hidden [06:46] hmm, i should've talk to you a week and a half ago :\ [06:48] lagann_ (n=hex@24.61.201.23) joined ##slackware. [06:49] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [06:51] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:53] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.33.98) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:53] toastytoast (n=toast@74.75.199.104) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [06:55] alienBOB: you are using xchat :) that's nice. it's me from the forum. that you helped with the install. or me who had problem with installing gcc. [07:00] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl4-105.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:01] hello guys [07:04] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [07:05] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [07:05] adamk_ (n=adamk@68.45.151.98) joined ##slackware. [07:05] khider (n=khider@69.172.80.137) joined ##slackware. [07:06] Hello, I am a Slackware Noob and am trying to download the 13.0 ISO image and whenever I put it through an MD5 I keep getting 'failed' [07:06] Same thing when I install it--I get 'killed' [07:07] Any suggestions? [07:07] khider, are you using the official bit torrent to fetch the ISO file? [07:09] if you don't use bittorent and use http/ftp check the file size in case the connection stopped for some reason [07:09] khider: my connection stopped at about 50% [07:09] then just resume [07:10] I use opera from ftp.slackware.no [07:10] if you are downloading the dvd iso its size is 3,920,214,016 [07:10] i would say use the torrent. you get a .md5 file. use that to check the md5sum against [07:11] Kowalczyk: stop using CTCP VERSION on my nick. I will ban you next time [07:11] And stop using PM when you can ask questions in the forum. I am very itchy about people jumping on my in IRC private chat [07:11] torrent clients usually check the files so the md5 is kinda useless if you use the torrents to download the file [07:11] Action: TwinReverb aliased his CTCP VERSION to respond by /msging the user to just ask [07:13] or block ctcp version :) [07:13] i could do that but it's more fun to startle the user [07:13] I tend to educate rather than to block [07:13] yes torrent clients check the torrent pieces [07:13] i tend to incinerate before i educate [07:13] heh [07:13] i could set mine up to nmap the user automatically if they CTCP VERSION me [07:13] but i have got corrupted pieces with ktorrent on certain trackers [07:14] so md5 isn't useless [07:14] then maybe set up a script to send them a bunch of window size 0 packets impersonating freenode's IP addresses ... [07:14] just to knock 'em off IRC [07:14] bad TwinReverb :P [07:14] TwinReverb: Oh sorry, getting coffee--this is where I got me torrent from ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/ [07:15] khider, get them from www.slackware.org/getslack [07:15] period [07:15] khider: check the size. if it is correct then something got messed in the resume from opera [07:16] wget's resume can be trusted in most cases. i don't trust resume from browser [07:16] TwinReverb: The size seems fine--teh download was smooth, why is this not the right one? [07:17] I am using a torrent now, but it strikes me as odd--but you are right the text from the link I sent says this is not the place to download the iso image. So why put it there at all? [07:18] I guess Slackware64 is better than Slamd64? [07:18] define better :) [07:18] eido (n=eido___@ool-457e25d7.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:18] khider, "not the right one"? [07:19] sahko: Make my computer stronger, more powerful, and do my homework for me [07:19] it certainly gets more updates, and is official [07:19] no linux distro can do your homework for you [07:19] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:19] or make your computer stronger or more powerful [07:19] TwinReverb: Damn, that's Windows I guess [07:19] now it can be more efficient, true, but your computer didn't change: the OS did [07:20] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425734.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:20] TwinReverb: I am a Gentoo user, I just got a laptop and was suggested that to attain a deeper understanding of Linux, I ought to get slack [07:20] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425734.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:21] and I like the logo [07:21] How to move many file whith txt extension to directory? [07:21] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.59.14) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:21] adeodatus: mv *.txt directory/ [07:21] this will move all txt not many [07:22] lol [07:22] mornin [07:22] if you want just many, tell us if they have a common pattern [07:22] hello Scuzz [07:22] khider, well anyways i'd recommend using the torrent [07:22] Lord_Khelben: Thanks you very much! [07:22] khider, are you trying to burn slack64? [07:24] TwinReverb: Yep [07:25] Just the iso image does not work despite two tries [07:25] Now I am using a re-writable DVD [07:25] Gotta learn [07:25] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:25] khider, but is your computer actually 64bit? [07:26] that error sounds a little bit like that could be the problem [07:26] nv4Phil (n=phil@24.249.194.158) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [07:27] My desktop is 32 and laptop is 64 [07:27] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [07:27] "there was a fatal error attempting to install /var/log/mount/slackware64/n/nmap-5.00-x86_64-1.txz" [07:28] That was the error message and I only had one option duringthe install proccess..click "ok" [07:28] sirslacker1 (i=0@s0101.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [07:28] How Windows is that? [07:29] eido (n=eido___@ool-457e25d7.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [07:29] no sounds like there was a problem with the burn [07:29] but it could also be your hardware [07:29] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.233.168) joined ##slackware. [07:30] TwinReverb: No, there is no problem with the burn--because even the MD5 sum said there was a problem with the ISO image [07:30] gah [07:30] hmm [07:30] So it is not the burn--it is with the image--which drives me bonkers [07:30] well i'd suggest trying bittorrent [07:30] slackware hugesmp kernel has no NFS root support build in [07:30] WHY??!?!?!?! [07:30] the iso didn't download correctly. apparently there problem lies (at least) where nmap is [07:30] I should have checked [07:30] s/there/the [07:30] khider, because it will re-download chunks that have errors and because it checks for errors [07:31] khider: what os do you use at the moment ? [07:31] slackytude, NFS? doing a network install? [07:31] TwinReverb: Can you explain why it downloads errors? [07:31] try burning the image with cdrecord [07:31] khider, because the internet isn't perfect? i dunno [07:31] Scuzz: I use a DVD--and K3B [07:31] does the ISO file itself md5 correctly or incorrectly [07:31] ? [07:31] TwinReverb: network boot [07:31] and k3b has issues ... try to avoid it [07:31] yeah use cdrecord [07:31] slackytude, can't you use an initrd? [07:31] i use it to burn iso images [07:32] i'd say use growisofs if it's a dvd and cdrecord if it's a cd [07:32] i used it to burn slackware 13 actually [07:32] TwinReverb: Correctly...and it says like my teacher after a test 'failed! failed! FAILED!' [07:32] cdrecord works fine for dvds [07:32] TwinReverb: that would be an idea as well. already building the kernel, tho [07:32] joerg schilling's cdrecord works perfectly for dvd and bluray too [07:32] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [07:32] i was only stating what i use [07:33] yeah, its a good idea, but I was already building the kernel [07:33] I am not happy with K3B because it does not give me options at what bit rate I can rip or record songs [07:33] How to find out how many file have in a directory? [07:33] because the bitrate is already set by the cd media? [07:34] ls -l | wc -l [07:34] -2 [07:34] either way it would have to be transcoded to change bitrate anyway [07:34] actually, its -3 [07:35] alisonken1noc: Yeah [07:35] cds are fixed bit rate [07:35] slackytude: thanks [07:36] TwinReverb: I have the option to rip at whatever medium I want on K3B--Ogg, Wave, Flac--but they can be recorded at different bitrate. Like MP3 can be 192, in the 300's, 400's whatever [07:37] Very useful command. [07:37] slackytude: why -3 ? [07:37] TwinReverb: It does not give bitrate options. So I tried ABCDE, and that sucks too [07:37] khider, are you using k3b to rip FROM the cd to files like mp3? [07:37] use kaudiocreator [07:37] kaudiocreator++ [07:38] TwinReverb: For everything for now, until something better comes along [07:38] Lord_Khelben: . .. and total line [07:38] k3b for ripping -- [07:38] Cod3nam3 (n=Cod3nam3@unaffiliated/cod3nam3) joined ##slackware. [07:38] duh [07:38] its just -1 [07:38] slackytude: i understood correctly then. i think ls -l doesn't print . and .. [07:38] something better = kaudiocreator [07:38] dito (n=dito@host162-103-static.20-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:38] hi [07:38] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-jfjmtktquadfcsww) joined ##slackware. [07:39] hi [07:39] yeah, you are correect [07:40] CD-Audio -> k3b -> .ogg != win? [07:40] can you 'splain this text, anyone? ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0-iso/README.1st [07:41] khider: if you read it you see it says about slackware.com [07:41] not about this mirror [07:42] Lord_Khelben: thanks...i am trying to figure out why the image does not work and grasping straws [07:45] kaudiocreator = teh win (for me at least) [07:45] Any Fluxbox enthusiasts here? [07:45] Or Openbox? [07:46] TwinReverb: I have kaudicreator written down--I will install when I get a chance--thanks! [07:46] Action: pprkut likes k3b for ripping [07:46] pprkut: How do you set the bitrate for ripping? [07:47] i call it shucksbox ... "shucks i don't have an easy way to set a desktop wallpaper ... shucks i don't have a pager ... shucks i don't have useful panel plugins" [07:47] hahah [07:47] "shucks i have to reinvent the wheel to make it usable" [07:47] shucks I have to run Thunar anyways [07:47] TwinReverb: That's why I love it--it makes me learn command line [07:48] i use slackware 13.0 with kde4, the system start from init3, and when do startx the user cannot poweroff the system, if start X (with kdm --nodaemon from root) an then make login with normal user (the same in previous example) the user can now shutdown the machine (with kde4 button)... [07:48] TwinReverb: Which is the essence of Linux [07:48] What can i modify to do that from init 3 + startx command? thanks [07:48] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.72.143) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:48] khider: Settings -> Configure K3b -> Plugins -> K3B Ogg Vorbis Encoder [07:48] for example [07:48] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:48] "shucks i've got carpal tunnel and i'm only 30" [07:49] dito, you can chmod +s /sbin/halt [07:49] then users can shut down with /sbin/halt [07:49] why should he have to do that? being part of the power group should make that possible [07:49] if not, i blame kde, because it works fine on xfce [07:49] does it realy ? [07:49] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [07:50] works fine on kde here [07:50] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.14.41) joined ##slackware. [07:50] i am in power group and i cant halt [07:50] TwinReverb: my user is already in power group [07:50] Action: TwinReverb shrugs "works fine with xfce" [07:50] pprkut: Thank you! I just wrote it down... [07:51] TwinReverb: it's true, but dont' understand why on xfce work well, but no in kde [07:51] khider, that link is to recommend that you use bittorrent [07:51] dito, ask in #kde then i guess [07:51] ok [07:51] i see using suid/sugroup a dangerous thing [07:52] posix caps > suid (where possible) [07:52] Scuzz: thanks [07:52] np [07:52] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.14.41) left irc: Client Quit [07:53] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.14.41) joined ##slackware. [07:53] isn't kdm running as root ? maybe thats why with kdm, kde halts fine and with startx it doesn't [07:53] maybe ill give xfce a shot today [07:53] Lord_Khelben: well, with startx you don't use kdm [07:53] yes thats what i mean [07:53] (wonders why Slackware posts corrupt ISO images) [07:54] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:54] how can kdm not be running as root? [07:54] maybe that is why kde from startx doesn't poweroff [07:54] khider: please dont spread fud. [07:54] Lord_Khelben: whith: # kdm --nodaemon [07:54] hiya Lord_Khelben ;) [07:54] hello The-Croupier [07:54] my user can poweroff the machine [07:54] dito: if they are in the power group. [07:54] khider, when did that happen !! [07:54] but no i do startx from user [07:54] khider: the Slackware ISO images are _not_ corrupt [07:54] Lord_Khelben, hows it going bro?? [07:55] spook: yes, my user is in the group [07:55] dito i startx the same way [07:55] and users cant halt [07:55] dito: that means they can shut down the machine :) [07:55] spook: Download and do an md5 or try to install it then--ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0-iso/ [07:55] what's with the troll warning [07:55] Scuzz: with chmod +s /sbin/halt [07:55] ;) [07:55] I tried several times. The good folks here said to use a torrent and I am [07:55] witht hat it works [07:55] khider, we don't post corrupt ISO images [07:55] khider: if you use a unix/linux os download the iso with wget and not the browser [07:55] khider: i dont use isos for slackware anymore, but you know, might just be that mirror. [07:56] but jsut being in the power group does nothing [07:56] i got them all from bittorrent just fine [07:56] otherwise use the torrent as TwinReverb suggested N times [07:56] md5sums match [07:56] N^2 times [07:56] er N^N times [07:56] definition of insanity... [07:56] aimed at both of you. [07:57] spook, 8-P [07:57] why aimed at us ? :P [07:57] spook: Okay, just really frustrated and surprised at my experience [07:57] good point, i should've probably used /ignore [07:57] I always think of anything Linux related as not subject to screw-ups [07:57] i am starting to believe a troll is in the house :P [07:57] if this was the christian channel i'd post that verse that says avoid someone after the 2nd or 3rd time you told them to stop being divisive or offensive [07:57] but alas ... [07:58] http://www.slackbook.org/html/book.html [07:58] forgot i had that button 8-) [07:58] TwinReverb, kind of turn the other chick ;) [07:58] you have two girlfriends?! 8-0 [07:58] sirslacker1 (i=0@s0101.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:58] lame...:p [07:58] that hawt! [07:58] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:59] (marvels at the speed of the torrent versus the mirror) [07:59] Action: The-Croupier believes this is one of the few channels that stupidy is punished ;) [08:00] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [08:00] lol [08:00] khider: many other people download that ISO and do not have issues with the MD5. Did you use ascii download instead of binary download when you used ftp? What is the ISO's filezize? [08:00] The-Croupier: its not punished often enough, or severe enough [08:00] spook, thats a pity :( [08:00] alienBOB: Almost 4 gigs [08:00] alienBOB: he used opera and his connection stopped and used opera's resume [08:00] khider: exactly how big. [08:01] this is one of the times that size actually matters :p [08:01] hahaha [08:01] the important times ;) [08:01] spook: 3.7 G [08:01] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.65.99) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:01] khider: I do not care for "almost" [08:01] khider: in bytes please [08:01] How many _bytes_ [08:01] khider: ... [08:01] that is far from 4GB [08:01] like the size i told you some time ago [08:02] 300mb is too much [08:02] 3944882176 Bytes [08:02] its like saying my.... ruler is 10 inch and you meant it in cm [08:02] And the name of that ISO file khider? [08:02] I told you I am a noob [08:02] slackware64-13.0-install-dvd.iso [08:02] yes the size is correct [08:03] -rw-r--r-- 1 alien wheel 3920214016 2009-08-31 01:50 slackware-13.0-install-dvd.iso [08:03] And I used firefox to download [08:03] My bad? [08:03] Ah 64bit [08:03] khider: you said opera before [08:03] opera? [08:03] Whassat? [08:03] -rw-r--r-- 1 alien wheel 3944882176 2009-08-26 18:57 slackware64-13.0-install-dvd.iso [08:03] Mebbe typo [08:03] Lord_Khelben: no, someone else did just below his reply, and got you confuzed :P [08:03] sahko: yes i just saw it now [08:04] So, bytesize is correct. If the md5sum does not match, then the resume was faulty [08:04] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:04] which is why ... nevermind [08:04] Action: TwinReverb stabs himself [08:04] hopefully torrent will work otherwise I will crawl back to you felers [08:04] feller [08:04] i almost said it AGAIN [08:04] fellers [08:04] khider: assuming you started the bittorrent all will be well in some time [08:04] stick that iso file in bittorrent folder, and force a recheck :) [08:05] Lord_Khelben: Here's hoping, I am anxious to be with the big kids [08:05] probably speed things up a bit [08:05] khider: torrents are reliable for me [08:05] khider: or do what spook said. it will just download the incorrect pieces [08:05] khider, are you trying to burn this image with k3b in slackware13 ? [08:05] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:05] Scuzz: No, I burn from my Gentoo box for my (hopefully) slackware laptop [08:05] k [08:05] With K3b on my Gentoo box [08:06] khider: you can also get the slackware dvd from the store which has both 32bit/64bit and you don't need to download/burn [08:06] khider: just use usb/pxe/whatever boot, and network install. [08:06] Lord_Khelben: I cannot wait that long [08:06] I want it NOW NOW NOW [08:06] But I bought a shirt, stickers, and a pin [08:06] And will probably buy more shirts to display my Geek Pride [08:07] I bought the 'got slack?' shirt [08:07] khider: from the slackware store? [08:07] ... [08:07] Of course!!! [08:07] I want to support! [08:07] bandwagon much [08:07] khider: got it already? [08:07] It will take a week more I think [08:07] Or the torrent you mean? [08:07] I hope I get mye slackware essentials book today:D [08:07] khider: I did a preorder for slack13 and am still waiting [08:08] alienBOB: im sorry. It won't happen again [08:08] Diamonds. She'll pretty much have to. [08:08] slackytude: You see, not good for the instant gratification spoiled brats like me [08:08] slackytude: my credit card was charged yesterday. maybe you check too since youre in EU too [08:08] khider: I just hope I wasnt forgotten [08:09] sahko: you did preorder as well? [08:09] usually i had the order in hand when that happened. [08:09] subscription since 12.1 [08:09] ah, ok [08:09] sahko: that is good to hear - I am still waiting for my subscription DVD to arrive on the doorstep [08:10] I want a slackware condom to boldly go where no geek has gone before [08:11] alienBOB: mine arrived wed. [08:11] alienBOB: as i describe above, usually when the credit card was charged, i already got the order at hand. i checked the mailbox twice just in case :P [08:11] :) [08:11] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-129-186-150.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:11] (or was it tuesday?) [08:12] alisonken1noc: but you're in US, right? [08:12] true :) [08:12] just down the coast from pat as I understand it - walnut creek is about 400 miles away [08:13] sQuEE` (n=narya@host132.190-31-140.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [08:13] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [08:13] toastyto1st (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:14] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:14] toastytoast (n=toast@208.233.36.250) joined ##slackware. [08:16] sahko: you were right, got charged today as well [08:16] :) [08:16] alisonken1noc: Pat is now in Minnesota, though. [08:17] so hwo does the subscription work , you jsut give your info once and you get charged with each release ? [08:17] damn, plasma crashe [08:17] d [08:17] Action: TwinReverb wants to meet pat in the flesh some day [08:18] wonder if patrick is going to visit japan ... [08:18] Scuzz: yeah, pretty much [08:18] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [08:18] ok - must be thinking of walnut creed cd's then [08:18] you guys are making me feel bad [08:18] thats not true, thats impossible! [08:18] ill make a donation [08:19] my subscription started about 5 years ago [08:19] maybe 6 years [08:19] I just know i've had it a while [08:19] i donate my time to help people in here :) [08:19] lol [08:19] time is always good :) [08:20] first time I bought slack [08:20] but thats ok, since I used to be an unemplyoed bum [08:20] good times [08:20] anyone know how to take a CD that is a stamped CD, make an exact copy (this is a bootable cd) except for one directory, and then reburn? [08:21] TwinReverb: yeah. mkiso? [08:21] TwinReverb: Can you make a iso of the CD, edit the iso, the make a CD of the edited iso? [08:21] k brb [08:21] what is a 'stamped CD'? [08:21] comercialy made [08:21] mingdao: mass produced. [08:22] isos are read-only. you can't dd it and edit it like a ext3 image [08:23] there is fuse filesystem that will allow you to mount an iso rw, I think [08:23] slackytude: if you don't have the money, you don't have to buy Slackware. It's out there for free. Paying for it, is the good thing to do if you have the money [08:23] the cd is actually a film of aluminum pressed with the pits that make ones and zeros then the carbonate (clear plastic) is overlaid [08:23] alienBOB: that's what I meant to say. first time I have the money to spare [08:23] coz I used to be a bum [08:23] I would "dd if=/dev/sr0 of=name.iso" the mount the ISO using loopback, edit, then "cdrecord -v dev=/dev/sr0 name.iso" [08:24] sQuEE (n=narya@host248.201-252-28.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:24] alisonken1noc: carbonite? :P [08:24] carbonAte - a type o f plastic [08:24] i know what it is, i'm make a joke [08:24] han solo! [08:24] :) [08:24] okay, gotta go to class-I will follow up later today with you fine folks after I finish my torrent [08:24] mingdao: yes i understood that but you can't edit the iso when you mount it [08:25] you can't delete files [08:25] slackytude: i want them alive *glares at boba fett* NO DISINTERGRATIONS [08:25] TwinReverb: for the loopback "mount -oloop name.iso /mnt/tmp" [08:25] Thanks for yer help so far! [08:25] you can tar the cd to your drive make changes, then remake an iso of the changed directory. I do it all of the time with a script I wrote [08:25] Lord_Khelben: if you make an ISO of the CD then mount it as above why can't you edit it? [08:25] great kwin crashed again [08:25] you can edit a loop-back image? [08:26] thrice`: if it is a writable image like ext3 yes [08:26] mingdao: because iso is a read-only image. it was designed like that [08:26] thrice`: if there's enough space on it, yes [08:26] mingdao: mkisofs a small iso then loopmount it and try and see [08:26] trone (n=sim@host248-62-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:26] you people now what I need to start to get my desktop back [08:27] all my terms are still open, as is opera [08:27] can even do alt+f2 [08:27] but no taskbar or start menu and stuff [08:27] black desktop [08:28] slackytude, just launch plasma [08:28] can do alt+tab as well [08:28] mingdao, spook no it's a bootable cd for which no one has the tools to make it bootable [08:28] alt+f2 -> plasma -> enter [08:28] i'd rather not get into what it is, just that i think editing the iso may remove the bootable program in the first couple bytes [08:28] is there a "strip while burn"? [08:29] you guys heard of/used ganeti? it looks quite cool [08:29] you mount the cd, "cd ; tar -xf - . | tar -C -xvf -" [08:29] make changes, then run the script that takes that directory and reburns the cd [08:30] if you mount it and copy/tar files to another dir then you lose the boot code [08:30] he wants to keep it bootable [08:30] that's what i'm worried about losing is the boot code [08:31] Lord_Khelben: I use the same script that slackware uses to make bootable cd's. works for me [08:31] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-137-1.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:31] maybe mount as loop, copy into a second ISO without that directory, then scan the first 1MB of the iso files to see what changed? [08:31] alisonken1noc: slackware uses syslinux and mkisofs takes into account the boot file [08:31] yep - and that's what I use as well [08:31] if it is a proprietary code like the windows boot code and you don't have the file [08:31] then you can't pass it to mkisofs [08:32] well - I didn't know we were talking about a windows cd :) [08:32] not necessarily windows cd [08:32] TwinReverb siad no one has the tools to make it bootable [08:32] nvm, it crashed completly now [08:32] i think isomaster can help you do all thse things [08:32] TwinReverb: what kind of cd is it? [08:33] i'd rather not say [08:33] gnubien (n=e@16.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:33] ok [08:33] the first/stupid idea it comes to mind is extract the boot code from the position of the iso file [08:33] lagann_ (n=hex@24.61.201.23) left irc: "Leaving" [08:33] and then mkisofs it like alisonken1noc said [08:34] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:34] anyone know how large the boot section of an ISO image is? [08:35] typically the first 512 bytes (yes, "bytes") [08:35] it's generic boot code that loads the rest of the boot loader somewhere else on the media [08:36] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:36] thanks, i'll see what i can do [08:37] are cds (eltorito i think its called) like mbr ? [08:37] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [08:37] close - and eltorito is the old name for the boot loader code, yes [08:37] wheeeeeeeeee! [08:37] slack 13 is coming [08:38] 512 bytes (actually 446) is the hdd mbr [08:40] I believe the main difference is how the disk is read between hard drives and cd drives [08:41] in slackware64, what stuff is acceptably placed in /usr/lib? [08:41] 32-bit stuff [08:42] what about like a "python script text executable", which is essentially noarch [08:42] slackytude, downloading... or expected in the post or... just loaded it... or? [08:42] scripts are typically not in /usr/lib [08:43] alisonken1noc: where should they go? [08:43] trone (n=sim@host248-62-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware. [08:44] depends on the script, but typically /sbin, /bin, /usr/sbin, /usr/bin, or ${PYTHONPATH}/site-packages <-- typically handled by the python installer script [08:44] Pa^2: the preorder I did many moons ago seems to processed now [08:44] at least they took the moniez [08:44] there's a python setup script that you can create a python egg package [08:44] it uses configure, and i set the libprefixes etc, like in the slackbuild template, but theres 4 scripts in /usr/lib/ganeti/tools/ [08:45] I'm half there, about the bcm4312, you have to build a kernel module (hopefully it's against 2.6.29 which is slackware13's kernel :) ), the patch doesn't properly apply but everything works fine anyway ( >< ) [08:45] eido (n=eido___@ool-457e25d7.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:45] also, don't forget to not have b43 and b43_legacy (the modules) [08:46] (to tell firebird and cryp71c) [08:46] phzin (n=Reggae@189.57.19.89) joined ##slackware. [08:49] sirslacker (n=sirslack@tmo-101-33.customers.d1-online.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:52] spook: what are they used for? [08:52] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Fui embora" [08:53] alisonken1noc: dont know yet. [08:53] spook: are you trying to make a slackware package? or would creating a python egg be another choice? [08:54] alisonken1noc: slackware package. two tics. [08:55] type0 (n=t0@brln-4dba996a.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [08:55] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:55] alisonken1noc: http://spooksoftware.com/spook/ganeti.tar.gz << the slackbuild so far. [08:56] what is ganeti ? [08:56] a virtual machine manager, for xen and kvm [08:56] ah thanx [08:56] written in python from the look of it [08:56] computer engineers top the list of motorists with the worst accident records. http://www.churchill.com/pressReleases/2009/worst-accident-records.htm [08:57] trying to get a decent package built before i start trying to run it :) [08:57] gnubien: old news :) [08:57] spook: new news to some :) [08:59] type0 (n=t0@brln-4dba996a.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:00] type0 (n=t0@brln-4dba996a.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [09:01] mel (i=1000@117.255.74.132) joined ##slackware. [09:02] hcfd (n=fed@host86-131-179-38.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:03] building the huge kernel takes some time [09:03] hence huge :P [09:04] Action: slackytude nods [09:04] Yesterday, I fixed a problem with my Internet connection by typing a command. I don't remember which it was. The command line was: progname -d -n -t 0 -I '' eth0. Can someone help me out? [09:05] mel: I remeber you [09:05] you were the dude who gets helped and comes back the next day with the same issue [09:05] haha [09:05] didnt I tell you to write the commands down? [09:05] I have noted it down as dhcpd, but when I refered to the manuals for dhcpd(8) and dhcpd.conf(5), I seem to be lost. [09:06] Hey slackytude, that has never happened. [09:06] mel: You could..google for linux dhcp client and you'd learn it was dhcpcd [09:06] or dhclient [09:07] I have written it down on my pad as: # dhcpd -d -n -t 0 -I '' eht0. Is this correct? [09:07] Unless you want to host a dhcp server, no [09:07] correct for what? [09:07] Also..you could just TRY it and see, you know [09:09] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [09:09] If anyone wants to bid for a good project installing linux on 5k pc's in poland; ask Losowski in #archlinux [09:10] aaw, arch linux guys can't use their lulz to do it? [09:10] Guess not [09:10] Their fail overshadows their lulz [09:11] thrice`: sure they can, there are some project contractors on this channel too [09:11] I wouldn't do anything with 5000 computers without some $$$ [09:11] Well, the problem is that the startup scripts fail to obtain an IP address. So how do I request for a new IP address from my ISP? In Windows one can do: $ ipconfig /relase, $ ipconfig /renew. [09:11] mel: Seriously..I just told you [09:12] I love google :-) [09:13] mel, you want dhclient or dhcpcd. [09:13] MJSthat (n=root@adsl-68-89-238-19.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [09:14] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [09:15] slackytu1e (n=icke@p4FD8A42C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [09:16] 5000 ? [09:16] thats a lot [09:16] true that! [09:16] what command shows boot params? isn't it pmesg? [09:16] dmesg ? [09:17] boot parameters? try "cat /proc/cmdline" [09:17] thanks to no end Lord [09:17] though the correct response to your question was what alisonken1noc said :) [09:17] the question was a bit off [09:18] gnubien, what do they need? [09:19] kk np just looking for local info on what's going on with the dvd settings... [09:19] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:19] thanks to you both [09:19] TwinReverb: ask Losowski in #archlinux; an entire police department wants to convert its entire system to linux [09:20] They should..uh..pay for some support [09:20] I'm not sure I'd want my PD running Linux o.O [09:22] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@petrostsi1.ath.forthnet.gr) left ##slackware. [09:22] straterra: some hungry linux contractor might find it profitable [09:22] As they should [09:22] I wouldn't want a PD with no paid support running Linux [09:22] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:23] agreed [09:23] straterra: not knowing the details, i can not comment on tha [09:23] on that [09:23] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:23] wow that sounds ugly [09:23] they better hire a pro to do the security at least for framework, defenses, and planed hierachy. not to mention upgrades :P [09:23] don't tell me, they have a bunch of proprietary software ... 8-( [09:24] TwinReverb: i would assume that, yea [09:24] dos lol [09:25] linux is good but when you have proprietary software it's not fun [09:25] Action: TwinReverb wonders if openoffice can do church bulletins [09:25] o.o [09:25] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:26] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:26] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.155.115) joined ##slackware. [09:26] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD89C78.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:26] Reav__ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [09:27] yo! [09:27] lagann_ (n=hex@c-24-61-201-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:30] welanx (n=welanx@74-44-49-80.dr01.famt.mn.frontiernet.net) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6.3" [09:30] I'm amazing by people who think Linux is 100% the right solution for everything [09:30] straterra: shut up windows user [09:30] 09:30:50 up 236 days, 21:06, 4 users, load average: 0.04, 0.01, 0.00 [09:30] That doesn't look like Windows [09:31] some random guy searching for some other random guy to install and maintain 5k linux installations on the IRC. nothing wrong with that [09:31] straterra: i know what you are. [09:33] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:34] paul424 (n=chatzill@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [09:35] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:36] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1176016729.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [09:37] john_dee (n=id@93.81.119.114) joined ##slackware. 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[09:47] comhack (n=comhack@unaffiliated/comhack) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [09:47] take THAT trump card and smoke it 8-) [09:48] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [09:48] Action: TwinReverb sees a "because cigarettes are worse for you" joke in that somewhere [09:49] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [09:49] slacks (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [09:50] soldiers with PTSD sometimes think they're back on the battle ground [09:50] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: Nick collision from services. [09:50] Nick change: slacks -> |Slacker| [09:50] what to kids with PTSD think? [09:50] do they stalk other kids and then lecture them and spank them? [09:51] do they put other kids in time-out? [09:51] slacks (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [09:51] perhaps that should say "children who _need_ to be spanked have lower IQs"? [09:52] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.71.26.206) joined ##slackware. [09:53] obedience and IQ aren't necessarily directly linked [09:54] hey what's that one movie that's a beauty pageant at a high school? i forget the movie but it's got those two dudes, father and son, both fat, one of which acts mentally handicapped? like at the end of the movie the son is stuck on the pickup truck by his overalls and the movie ends when the pageant float explodes? [09:54] no clue, but the ending was just ruined. ffs [09:55] those two characters in that movie (father and son) just crack me up [09:55] Action: TwinReverb needs to figure out what movie that was [09:55] twin: sounds familiar but can't quite place it [09:56] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [09:56] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-129-186-150.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [09:57] netwolker (n=netwolke@151.53.44.105) joined ##slackware. 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[10:56] I'm looking for a one-click-uninformed-user method for doing updates, i.e. slackpkg update ; slackpkg upgrade-all or sudo slackpkg update ; sudo slackpkg upgrade-all or...something to that effect. Any ideas? (OS=13.0) [10:56] Nick change: Kamus_H_Zwisch -> Kamus_Away[xi] [10:56] Not up on widgets... [10:57] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-73-241.epm.net.co) left irc: Connection timed out [10:57] Guest25364: this is Slackware. Not some uninformed-user-is-our-target-audience distro [10:57] i've never heard of one, but it's not something I keep up on [10:59] alienBOB, I like to give folks the best most effeceient, easiest to use OS reguradless of their level of computer knowledg or willingness to learn. [10:59] Guest25364: Microsoft Windows. [11:01] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.22.118) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:01] I already feel good with the command line :) [11:02] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:02] OSX [11:02] Go buy a mac [11:02] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) joined ##slackware. [11:02] Guest25364: or otherwise, maintain their computers for them and do all their work. [11:02] "most efficient" and "easy" are terms that are pretty much based on actual level of knowledge *and* willingness to learn, in my opinion. [11:03] dissocia2ive (n=dissocia@190.71.13.37) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:05] most efficient and easy may be PS3 ? [11:06] Nigromante: nah. [11:06] "Etch-and-Sketch" ;) [11:06] mm [11:06] Etch reminds me of Lenny... [11:07] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:08] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:09] mel (i=1000@117.255.74.132) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:12] adeodatus (n=RF@92.85.23.208) joined ##slackware. [11:12] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [11:13] netwolker (n=netwolke@151.53.44.105) left irc: "Leaving" [11:14] BP{k}: Thanks for your suggestion but it is unacceptable. (I like Slackware). [11:14] Guest25364 (n=jp@ppp-70-129-249-52.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [11:14] Then write your own manager [11:14] Or just leave..you putz [11:16] I admit, I am somewhat confused. He like slackware (fair enough), but he's asking about computers for others which are most efficient/easy for others to use, yet it must be slackware?? Sometimes I do not understand humans. [11:17] who said he's human? ;) [11:17] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.155.115) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [11:17] subhuman? [11:18] haha. Who knows... [11:18] no..he's a dumbass. Has to be human [11:18] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.155.115) joined ##slackware. [11:18] hahaha [11:18] he cant be a slack user and ask those questions [11:18] Nick change: rrh_ -> rrh [11:19] The Moon is Waxing Crescent (45% of Full) [11:19] not a full moon, but... [11:19] haldir: ... have you been in the channel the last couple of months? ;) [11:19] nono, what a minute.. There has been a blackout! What happened? :O [11:19] metrofox: urmom looked at a transformer [11:19] off and on. been using slack since 8 [11:19] ugliness overload! [11:19] hcfd (n=fed@host86-131-179-38.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [11:20] blackthorne (n=bthorne@unaffiliated/blackthorne) left irc: Client Quit [11:20] MJSthat (n=root@adsl-68-89-238-19.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:21] haldir: then you should know such questions (aka stupid ones) are becoming increasingly common, sadly enough. [11:21] briareus (n=briareus@mayo-nat2.mayo.edu) joined ##slackware. [11:21] BP{k}, i only pay attention intermittently [11:21] blackthorne (n=bthorne@unaffiliated/blackthorne) joined ##slackware. [11:21] straterra, don't smoke anymore... [11:22] I dont have much patience [11:22] haldir, they're not our problems, but yours... [11:22] *smooke sorry... [11:22] metriccwrench, ? [11:22] ups... No... Nevermind :P [11:23] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-180-167-199.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [11:23] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [11:24] novacrust (n=Crust@72.12.184.33) joined ##slackware. [11:27] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [11:30] Hey, i´ve got a box where the /-drive is pretty fucked. I cant write to it.. I got another drive that i would like to just mount somewhere and get the data from it. Is that possible? [11:30] ie, iwant to mount a drive but i cant mount it on my / [11:30] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:32] use a live cd [11:32] slackytu1e (n=icke@p4FD8A42C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:32] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:33] Nigromante: Its a headless-box so i guess i could get a monitor etc.. I can ssh to the server just fine.. I just cant write anything to it without it crapping out [11:34] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:35] remove the broken drive and test it in another comp [11:35] veritos (n=veritos@swallow.ee.washington.edu) joined ##slackware. [11:35] wknight (n=Michael@201.75.107.86) joined ##slackware. [11:35] the broken drive is worthless. it just contains the os more or less.. Its the óther drive i would like to get some fles from [11:36] then remove the good one and test it in another computer [11:36] Is there a way (say, a HAL setting) to make all caps lock lights global rather than per keyboard? If I hit caps lock on my laptop keyboard and then on my USB keyboard, both caps lock lights are on but caps lock is off. [11:36] (It's hilarious, but annoying for practical use.) [11:36] adeodatus (n=RF@92.85.23.208) left irc: "Leaving" [11:38] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-180-167-199.vic.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [11:43] pireau (i=1000@208.92.18.96) joined ##slackware. [11:45] They are universal for me.. [11:45] I've never seen that [11:46] straterra, Are you using HAL? [11:46] I have [11:48] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) left irc: "leaving" [11:51] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [11:55] pooop [11:56] veritos (n=veritos@swallow.ee.washington.edu) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:57] damn it [11:57] anyone using kontact? [11:57] Necos, i am [11:57] what's up? [11:58] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:58] was wondering if you got it to sync with an iCal-formated calendar file [11:58] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [12:00] explore (n=msparker@pool-173-57-72-22.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:00] Necos, yes; icalout.ics, iirc [12:01] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [12:01] adeodatus (n=RF@92.85.23.208) joined ##slackware. [12:04] Necos: yes [12:04] didn't see the option in the resource menu [12:04] dngr (n=dngr@116.49.135.131) left irc: "disconnecting from stoned server." [12:05] that's why i asked... ^.^ [12:05] dngr (n=dngr@n11649135131.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [12:07] nix_chixor (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [12:09] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [12:10] wertik_rus (i=500@95-24-252-157.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:12] It's possibile to install slackware useing dd without burning a cd? [12:12] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:12] dito (n=dito@host162-103-static.20-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "leaving" [12:13] nepenthe (n=ville@YKCDXLIV.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [12:16] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.132.158) joined ##slackware. [12:17] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-22-238.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [12:17] firedix (n=firedix@host83.200-117-148.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [12:19] yes but you forgot the middle v [12:20] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:20] whazup, fire|bird? [12:20] adeodatus: yes, the usb installer is available [12:20] Hey john_dee, how's it going? [12:20] hey thrice` [12:20] hi :> new nick? :D [12:21] thrice`: haha, I got back to this one because I found out last night that I could associate this one as well. I thought you could only have one nick grouped. :P [12:21] Action: nix_chixor dances [12:21] hey nix_chixor, how are you? [12:22] fire|bird: good. harassing some upr here. you? [12:22] thrice`: You seen that vbatts has 32bit 4.3.1 packages now too? [12:22] john_dee: doing great, thank you. It's rainy/dreary outside, but other then that doing well. [12:22] fire|bird, are those public ? [12:22] Action: Necos prods nix_chixor ^.^ [12:22] or on private server [12:22] fire|bird: aah, nice; i'm sure alot will appreciate that ;) [12:22] Action: nix_chixor is feeling pretty damn good today [12:23] why for feel so good? [12:23] Scuzz: 4.3.1? public [12:23] secks [12:23] heya Necos [12:23] fire|bird: yeah, same sh*t outside %) [12:23] vbatts packages i meant [12:23] Scuzz: yup, public. :) [12:23] can you post me a link kind sir ? [12:23] i wouldnt mind trying it out [12:23] oooh, nix_chixor got some :P [12:24] Scuzz: http://cardinal.lizella.net/~vbatts/kde/kde4-packages/4.3.1/ [12:24] Necos, my laptop is so pimp i must have tripped over the power adapter last night so my laptop was unplugged. woke up and i still had 2hrs battery life left [12:24] thank you verry much fire|bird [12:24] lol [12:24] Necos: There's the link you needed, maybe you'd actually get it installed. :P [12:24] Scuzz: you're welcome [12:24] Necos, ;) [12:25] what do i need vbatts for on a desktop? [12:25] jp (n=jp@ppp-70-129-249-52.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:25] :P [12:25] lol nix_chixor :) [12:25] Necos: OMG, you idiot, it's kde 4.3.1 packages. [12:25] Nick change: jp -> Guest15042 [12:25] How does one get KDE4's bottom bar back to defaults? [12:25] Any way to do that? [12:25] oh why do i need that? [12:25] Necos: I'm just joking because of the hard time you had building it yourself. [12:26] lol you dumbass ^.^ [12:26] hahaha [12:26] Guest15042: There's not really a way to do that, what part do you want back to default? [12:27] Only way would be (drastic) starting with a new ~/.kde afaik [12:27] Action: _guitarman_ is enjoying kde4 now that he has a decent computer [12:27] y0 _guitarman_ [12:28] <_guitarman_> hey fire|bird and all [12:29] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:29] heya _guitarman_ [12:30] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:30] thrice`, I've downloaded a iso image and I want to create a iso disk image to install slack. [12:30] ? [12:30] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:30] Never mind, I fixed it. [12:31] Guest15042 (n=jp@ppp-70-129-249-52.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:32] oahong` (n=user@218.22.80.151) joined ##slackware. [12:34] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "leaving" [12:34] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-130-210.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. 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[12:45] In my .bash_profile file I add a few paths to my PATH env var, but when I start kde (using startx), these are removed from my PATH. [12:45] How can I avoid that? [12:45] fix kde startup [12:46] do you export your path? [12:46] I boot to runlevel 3 [12:46] do you export your path? [12:46] Yes [12:46] k [12:47] It appears the PATH env var is reset when starting KDE. [12:47] It makes little sense to me. [12:47] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:47] fix kde/startx startup [12:47] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@d24-57-84-192.home.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:47] grep PATH ~/.*|less [12:48] explore (n=msparker@pool-173-57-72-22.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:48] axius (n=RF@92.82.87.235) joined ##slackware. [12:49] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.12.209) joined ##slackware. [12:49] anyone know what files i need to edit to make nfs use static ports? [12:50] dngr (n=dngr@n11649135131.netvigator.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:50] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:50] nfs is horrible. [12:51] or rather, i think its horrible [12:51] john-uea (i=Omni@stud189135.mobiel.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:51] You think well. [12:51] not that it answers the question, of course. [12:51] Hello will slackware run well on: VIA EPIA mainboard mini-ITX met Via C3 550 MHz [12:51] ? [12:52] did you try it? [12:52] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-22-238.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:52] no, not yet [12:52] can you? [12:52] john-uea, probably an older version [12:52] I don't have that hardware, so no [12:52] ok [12:52] ask the seller [12:52] unless you're not using an intensive desktop environment [12:52] or email oem if they ahve [12:52] It's for a small server [12:52] fanless [12:53] it'll run [12:53] or, buy it now and test for < 3days; if fail then return [12:53] haha no I'm going to buy it via internet [12:53] k [12:54] well I need to go now [12:54] thanks for the quick responses [12:54] laer [12:54] later [12:54] we cant give permission [12:55] adeodatus (n=RF@92.85.23.208) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:55] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:55] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-104-216.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:58] xsamurai (n=munki@pool-71-106-233-110.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:59] any one familar with qnx ? [13:00] Action: adamk_ has used in the past. [13:00] A few years ago. [13:02] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@24.57.84.192) joined ##slackware. [13:03] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.132.158) left irc: "Leaving" [13:03] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-130-210.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:04] adamk_: hi [13:04] adamk_: is the usb stack open ? [13:04] No idea. [13:04] its not clear what all are open and closed [13:06] Reav__ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) left irc: Connection timed out [13:07] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@24.57.84.192) left irc: Client Quit [13:07] legendulo (n=RF@92.84.20.169) joined ##slackware. [13:10] sluckxz (i=18740869@gateway/web/freenode/x-ogxlkvjagmxnjuoq) joined ##slackware. [13:11] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@d24-57-84-192.home.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:11] thanx fire|bird [13:11] you're welcome. :) [13:11] this is much better so far [13:15] ;) [13:15] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:15] lol [13:15] thank you too vbatts [13:16] its like a brand new toy now [13:16] Hey vbatts, how's it going? I have your 32bit packages on the desktop now. Working great, I do have an issue with widgets on the panel though. [13:17] Scuzz: There were quite a few changes/bug fixes from 4.2.4 to 4.3, there is a noticeable improvement. I really like the new theme it has too now. [13:17] panel widgets? like what [13:18] vbatts: Right clicking the panel and adding widgets, they won't add to the panel at all, but if I add them to the desktop then drag them to the panel, then it works. I haven't really dug into a cause or anything yet though. This is with a fresh ~/.kde, .local, .config. [13:19] legendulo (n=RF@92.84.20.169) left irc: Client Quit [13:19] Scuzz: Would you mind trying to add a panel widget in kde and see if it works for you? [13:19] i jsut added sytem monitor fire|bird [13:19] bradhex (n=chris@c-98-193-248-168.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:19] and it works? [13:19] its in the bpannel next to the clock [13:19] Hmm, must be something here then. :/ [13:20] Scuzz: thanks. :) [13:20] hmm, i can't reproduce on my x86_64 desktop here [13:20] im using 32 bit [13:20] Running slack 13, can't start up dolphin it just returns: (6206)/: Communication problem with "dolphin" , it probably crashed. [13:20] fire|bird, any specific widget ? [13:20] Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." [13:21] vbatts: It's fine on my laptop (64bit) with your packages, but the desktop it isn't working, but it is for Scuzz so it is maybe a specific issue here. I'll have to dig into it some more. [13:21] and before a ran 4.3.1, i rm -rf ~/.kde for good measure (taking note or backing up the important stuff) [13:21] Scuzz: any of em. :P [13:21] i jsut installed the packages [13:21] notKlaatu (i=1001@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [13:21] yeah, it must be some oddity I've ran into here. :P I'll try with a fresh ~/.kde, etc again and see if that helps at all. Other than that, it's running excellent. [13:21] i didnt back antything up [13:22] I like the improved performance that 4.3.1 has seemed to have provided, that's nice. :) [13:22] it has a smoother more refined feel to it [13:22] yeah [13:23] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. 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[13:24] your a bird and use pidgen [13:24] hahaha [13:24] I'm using irssi now. :P [13:24] Scuzz: its pidgin :P [13:24] or Alt + [qwertyuiop] [13:25] yeah sorry was laughing as i wrote it [13:25] haha [13:25] steiger (n=steiger@200.128.60.12) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:25] Scuzz: laughing and typing don't mix well, do they? :P [13:25] not in my case [13:26] how long have these packeges been out [13:26] i don't know why i was even trying nfs. i forgot about sshfs [13:26] im gonna back them up [13:26] vbatts: Hmm, I think I can blame this one on pebkac now. :/ [13:27] I guess I used xfce for too long and got used to dragging the widget (item) to the panel and had forgotten in kde that you can't do that with the panel, you have to either double click or hit add widget. [13:27] fire|bird: exactly [13:28] init[1]: Don't comfirm my stupidity. :P [13:28] fire|bird: :D [13:28] It's inpolite you insensitive clod. :P [13:31] Scuzz: since yesterday [13:33] fire|bird fails ^.^ [13:33] Necos: Well, it's not the first time, and not the last time, get used to it. :P [13:34] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-jfjmtktquadfcsww) left irc: [13:34] mancha: pong (but only here for about five minutes) [13:34] xddw (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [13:35] rwork, is there a list where security issues can be sent or is it only an email to pat? [13:35] can someone help me install ices0, i downloaded and extracted packega so far [13:36] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [13:36] fire|bird, i just like the idea that you fail more often than i do ^.^ [13:36] wertik_rus (i=500@95-24-252-157.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [13:36] Necos: gee, thanks. :P [13:37] Necos: Are you sure you don't fail more often and just don't tell about it? D [13:37] :D [13:37] fire|bird: i can drag from the new wiget box onto the panel [13:37] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:37] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.20.169) joined ##slackware. [13:37] fire|bird :) [13:37] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.20.169) left irc: Client Quit [13:38] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:38] vbatts: Hmm, I can't. I tried on the laptop as well and no dice. However, double clicking or clicking a widget and then add widget works fine. [13:38] that was less than 5 minutes :/ [13:38] mancha: I'm still here - sorry. Just Pat [13:38] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.20.169) joined ##slackware. [13:38] mancha: volkerdi@ [13:39] why don't we just open up a public buglist/security list? [13:39] bradhex (n=chris@c-98-193-248-168.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:39] mancha: because we don't need/want one. :) [13:39] azarion (i=anahel@unaffiliated/anahel) joined ##slackware. [13:39] want i can understand, need i disagree with [13:39] mancha: havent you seen the kinds that come in here? imagine what a public list would be like [13:39] mancha: typically Pat will be notified by projects for security issues [13:40] well, not just Pat, but distros in general get notification on security issues. [13:40] anahel (i=anahel@unaffiliated/anahel) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:40] Nick change: azarion -> anahel [13:41] Yeah, there are quite a few public security lists, and also a few nonpublic ones :) [13:41] sirslacker (n=root@p579B5AF3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:41] sirslacker (n=root@p579B5AF3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:41] sirslacker1 (n=root@p579B5AF3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:41] I think mancha was talking more about reporting issues *to* Pat though [13:41] that's easy [13:42] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A73F8F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:42] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.20.169) left irc: Client Quit [13:43] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.20.169) joined ##slackware. [13:43] murdoc-is-god (n=murdoc-i@c-24-63-201-220.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:43] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.20.169) left irc: Client Quit [13:44] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:45] mancha: why don't we start an unoffical buglist for slackware, may be pat may take alook at it [13:45] xddw (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:46] init, thats always an option of course, it would be nice to have buy-in from the devs though (imho) [13:46] yea,but remember the ArmSlack was unoffical but finnaly it came to square 1 [13:46] personally i would prefer a slackware git tree instead of a bug tracker [13:46] so, curiosity now has us, what is the security issue you have discovered, to which Pat doesn't know about / hasn't yet addressed ? [13:47] i was considering uploading my rsynced tree to github the other day [13:47] i dont know if excluding the sources would be <100mb though [13:49] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:49] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [13:57] i have discovered the awesome power of confidence when chatting to women [13:58] wertik_rus (i=500@95.24.252.157) joined ##slackware. [13:58] congratulations! [13:58] yeah? [13:58] i had my suspicions as to wether it would work [13:58] but now have concrete proof [13:58] lol [13:59] scientist til the end, eh? [13:59] yeah. [14:00] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-68-216.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [14:00] hehe [14:00] well, now you have a working theory :) [14:00] its been working very well so far. [14:01] great... so no more drinking lol [14:01] no, still an alcoholic [14:02] braintix (n=bck@unaffiliated/braintix) left irc: "Leaving" [14:03] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [14:03] also, slightly overweight chicks who only have thin friends are very easy prey for the confidence play i've found [14:04] spook: real women are over rated [14:04] notKlaatu (i=1001@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [14:04] xsamurai: yeah. [14:04] now virtual women, they'll never disappoint [14:04] lol. [14:04] i agree completely, now be quiet :) [14:05] sleep time [14:05] xsamurai: until the computer they're running off crashes. Wouldn't that be disappointing? :P [14:06] fire|bird: i always carry one on usb [14:06] haha [14:06] She must be a tiny woman (asian?) :P [14:06] ascii [14:07] hahaha [14:11] >.> [14:11] damn spook lol [14:11] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [14:13] wertik_rus (i=500@95.24.252.157) left irc: "Leaving" [14:13] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:14] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [14:14] hey g4tt0 [14:15] hi Necos [14:15] Hi g4tt0 [14:15] g4tt0, italian? :) [14:15] you haven't put anything up on flickr :P [14:16] Hey metrofox [14:16] hi all [14:16] yes metriccwrench, i am [14:16] hi fire|bird :) [14:16] error_developer_ (n=errordev@host86-157-112-91.range86-157.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [14:16] g4tt0, me too... :beer: [14:17] lol [14:17] heya metrofox [14:18] Necos, no beer for you :D [14:18] Action: slackytude drinks beer [14:18] ;) [14:18] i rather drink sake anyway ^.^ [14:18] omg [14:18] the tools > open terminal option is back [14:18] finaly [14:18] Scuzz: haha, yup. [14:18] sake to me [14:19] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:19] Scuzz, where [14:19] 4.3.1 [14:19] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:19] in dolphin [14:19] Scuzz, KDE? [14:19] yes [14:20] i got a tear in my eye when the terminal open fullscreen [14:20] Oh... That's nothing... Normal... [14:20] >.> [14:20] I got yakuake for that [14:21] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:22] uhh, how do i take a screenshot on blackbox? [14:23] import -window root filename.png [14:23] scrot [14:24] hmmmm [14:25] k ty sahko [14:26] elderK (n=zk@222-152-96-39.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [14:26] Hey, would anyone mind pastebinning their /s?bin for me? [14:26] I'm creating a small kit for Windows, [14:26] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-83-236.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:26] kind of like Msys but smaller. [14:26] you mean the ls -l of /sbin? [14:26] :) Just would like to know what is normally in the bin, sbin, etc. [14:26] :) [14:26] just ls, thanks. [14:26] :) I'd really appreciate it. [14:26] elderK use tree [14:27] I don't have a UNIX system atm, you see. [14:27] in you linux box [14:27] ooh [14:27] you wan /sbin/ ? [14:27] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [14:27] only [14:27] http://pastebin.ca/1579389 [14:27] bin, sbin, lib, so far. [14:27] thanks, slackytude. [14:27] np [14:27] slackytude: :-/,i was doing it :-/ [14:28] Action: init[1] :D [14:28] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@78.128.55.9) joined ##slackware. [14:28] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-129-186-150.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:28] slacky, is that just bin or is it sbin and bin [14:28] ? [14:28] you'll be fast one day, too, kid [14:28] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@78.128.55.9) left ##slackware. [14:28] just /sbin [14:28] heh [14:28] would you mind /bin, too? [14:28] m314 (n=mt@87.63.32.249) joined ##slackware. [14:28] http://pastebin.ca/1579392 [14:29] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:30] elderK: this is much neater http://pastebin.ca/1579393 [14:30] Nick change: oahong` -> samigarus [14:30] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:30] harder to parse tho [14:30] Action: init[1] poke slackytude [14:30] wknight (n=Michael@201.75.107.86) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [14:31] slackytude: yea it took a while thou , [14:31] tree {/sbin,/bin,lib} [14:31] tree {/sbin,/bin,lib} > t.txt [14:31] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:32] How come my xterm doesn't show dircolors and has a boring PS1, while the non-x consoles have all kinds of settings on by default? [14:32] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [14:32] login shell [14:32] xterm is great [14:32] thanks, both of you [14:32] :) [14:32] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [14:32] i edited my xterm so it looks good lol [14:32] xterm is great if you don't like unicode [14:33] m314, some are login shells the others are not [14:33] m314, in a term do a bash -l [14:33] oh, I see [14:33] m314, you need to create a .bashrc file if you want to change that permanetly [14:34] so I should run all shells as login shells? [14:34] xterm is great when you want to use vim with 256 colors [14:34] only if you want a login shell [14:34] makes coding nice and beautiful [14:34] rk4n3 (n=rk4n3@71.39.203.106) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [14:34] misspwnage (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [14:35] falx (n=flaviu@78.97.215.212) joined ##slackware. [14:35] xsamurai: I use rxvt-unicode and have no problem with colors in vim [14:35] :) [14:35] Nick change: falx -> flovejah [14:35] problem with rxvt is it doesnt start with an x, hahaha, i'll take a look at that thanks [14:35] m314, no [14:36] rxvt also has scripting support [14:36] m314, you should create a .bashrc in your home [14:36] wow i nvr knew there was thing called filo boot loader [14:36] some other neat features too [14:36] urxvt is nice... i just need to figure out how to enable the other input methods :( [14:37] m314: if you look at the bash manual page and read the section titled INVOCATION, it will tell you all about the different ways you can start bash [14:37] I oh thanks :) [14:37] type0 (n=t0@brln-4dba996a.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:38] http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/courses/build/shell-scripting/ch02s02.html [14:38] m314, ^^ [14:38] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:40] m314: basically it sources (loads into memory) different configuration files (or none at all) depending on how you start it. you can make bash do things when you login (load variables into memory, start a script you made, whatever) and also when you logout (like clean up any temporary files you might have created or backup some file or whatever). [14:40] m314: it's very powerful [14:40] but you don't have to take my word for it! [14:41] dchmelik (i=1000@66.243.232.122) joined ##slackware. [14:41] blackthorne (n=bthorne@unaffiliated/blackthorne) left irc: Client Quit [14:42] metrofox: are you italian?! :O [14:46] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:47] wertik_rus (i=500@95-24-252-157.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:47] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-104-216.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:48] [Kairos] (n=Kairos@unaffiliated/kairos) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [14:49] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:51] thanks godling, pretty cool [14:52] wknight (n=Michael@201-75-107-86-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:57] elderK (n=zk@222-152-96-39.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left ##slackware. [14:58] zer0byte (n=zer0byte@87-126-85-25.btc-net.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [14:59] Curse these double-sided DVDs! [14:59] Action: deco is suffering from desingner's block [14:59] ? [14:59] Action: Alan_Hicks has mis-read the damn labels on his twice now. [15:00] sluckxz (i=18740869@gateway/web/freenode/x-ogxlkvjagmxnjuoq) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [15:01] ah [15:01] need glasses? [15:02] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC30DA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [15:03] slackytude: have you _tried_ to read the the label on a double-sided dvd? [15:03] it's like 8pt font [15:03] godling, go to offtopic [15:04] misspwnage: I don't want to view your cam :P [15:04] you don't want to see me dance [15:05] naw i'm not dancing [15:05] i'm just sitting on my ass [15:05] technically laying [15:06] technically *lying* [15:06] You lie down; you lay something down [15:06] :) [15:06] [15:06] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [15:07] either way, we don't want to see it. [15:07] haha [15:07] crumb (i=crumb@server1.tiltshellz.org) joined ##slackware. [15:08] how do i format a vfat partition? [15:08] crumb, mkdosfs [15:08] i tried `mkfs -t vfat` [15:08] mkdosfs [15:08] ohh [15:08] rk4n3 (n=rk4n3@71.39.203.106) joined ##slackware. [15:08] mkfs.vfat doesn't work? [15:08] hehehe [15:08] nope [15:08] mkfs.vfat: No such file or directory [15:09] ah [15:09] oh I guess it links to mkdosfs [15:09] or at least it does on this machine [15:12] Hello all, I have been trying to install Slackware64 but keep getting this message "There was a fatal error attempting to install /var/log/mount/slackware64/n/openvpn-2.0.9-x86_64-1.txz. The package may be corrupt, the installation media may be bad..." And I downloaded the iso image from two sepaerate sources [15:13] Anyone care to advise what is going on? [15:13] bad burn? [15:13] I now get 'unexpected end of input, 'killed, killed' [15:13] bed media [15:13] straterra: I used 3 different discs [15:13] eh, bad media [15:13] bad drive khider [15:13] Bad burn? [15:13] 2 virgin and 1 dvd re-writeable [15:14] khider, use a different drive [15:14] check the iso md5sum before burning? [15:14] The drive is a new laptop [15:14] it can still be bad [15:14] khider: didnt you conclude your download was corruct in the afternoon? wth are you still trying to burn the same iso? [15:14] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-45-151-98.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:14] skip it and install it after you reboot [15:14] s/corruct/corrupt [15:14] Why dont you check the sums of the disks, the images, and the mirros? [15:14] you could install it from the hd then [15:14] alisonken1home: yeah--that is the weird part--first few times my md5 said 'faulty' now I get nothing [15:15] alisonken1home: Now my computer just pauses [15:15] sahko: Yeah it's me--several hours later [15:15] thats generally not a good sign [15:15] bad hardware [15:15] Maybe it's time to go back to Gentoo [15:15] But I want slackware [15:16] khider: redownload iso, check md5sum, burn (slowly if need be) and have fun trying again [15:16] Yes..because Gentoo fixes shit hardware [15:16] Not [15:16] Use whatever you want..we don't care. [15:16] straterra: I have more experience with Gentoo [15:16] khider: as slackmagic notes, sometimes forcing a slower speed burn helps as well [15:16] khider: was the md5sum correct the second time? [15:16] Then go use Gentoo [15:16] just install from a hd partition [15:16] you can easily skip that package and install it after [15:16] The third time I get this pause [15:16] try switching TTY's, and then switching back [15:17] thrice`: The package just kills on its own [15:17] Since you ignored my question... [15:17] yesyes_ (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:17] khider: was the md5sum correct the second time you downloaded the iso? [15:17] I'll pose it again. Did you check the md5/sha1 sum of the image and the burnt disk, compared to what it should be on the mirro? [15:17] straterra: What questions was that? [15:18] mirror^ [15:18] ugh, this stupid tarball extracted all these symlinks [15:18] sahko: I find it strange that the mirror has problems three seperate times [15:18] and i can't get rid of it [15:18] khider: thats not an answer, y/n [15:18] straterra: okay, could you please give me a good mirror? [15:18] Sure [15:19] sahko: no [15:19] http://tinyurl.com/ybajquv [15:19] or I don't know--I thought I answered the question [15:19] no means the md5sum wasnt correct even the second time. so no surprises [15:20] straterra: That is not a mirror link [15:20] straterra: soweeee [15:20] sahko: Third time [15:20] khider, any mirror should work, or the torrents. you did check the md5sum= [15:20] then your filesystem is corrupted [15:20] ? [15:21] khider: there's a possibility that the image is not being replaced on that very same mirror, hence resulting in 3 bad attempts to burn that very same image [15:21] Or a shit internet connection [15:21] or bad media,bad burner [15:21] or global warming [15:21] slackmagic:twice was from a mirror, third was from a torrent [15:21] or pebcak [15:21] try a different burner [15:22] or try a usb install [15:22] xsamurai: I tested my burner--it is not the issue [15:22] Okay, anyone suggest a good mirror to use? [15:22] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [15:22] slackware 64 13.0? [15:22] all mirrors are good [15:22] and you verified the md5's ? [15:23] wertik_rus (i=500@95-24-252-157.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [15:23] xsamurai: The md5 got 'faulty' forst two tries and 'nothing' on third [15:23] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.84.186) joined ##slackware. [15:23] 'first two tries' [15:23] or, grab the torrent, and point it at your .iso [15:23] thrice`: Can you explain? [15:24] misspwnage (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:24] spook suggested that 8 hours earlier [15:24] torrent programm will check it [15:24] oh, sorry [15:24] and possiblly correct it [15:24] sahko: How do I do that? [15:24] khider: thrice already told you [15:24] slackytude: Sorry, how do I do that? [15:25] put the iso in the place the torrent app wants it [15:25] http://www.ende-der-vernunft.org/files/joern/20090221-gnufragranceg.jpg [15:25] lolz [15:25] slackytude: Will the torrent app not say' hey, you already have this--would you like it replaced?' [15:26] Cod3nam3 (n=Cod3nam3@unaffiliated/cod3nam3) left ##slackware. [15:26] it will check it and start to seed [15:26] or detect corruptions [15:26] i wonder what it smells like , cheetos and old computer parts mixed in with a touch of socks [15:26] crumb (i=crumb@server1.tiltshellz.org) left ##slackware. [15:27] nix_chixor (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:28] slackytude: Ahh yes, I see what you are saying--yes I am seeding without problems [15:28] darlek (n=xfgvbsx@212.183.134.208) joined ##slackware. [15:28] try usb then, if the iso is correct, it must hardware that borks somewhere [15:28] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:29] gynter (n=gynterk@78-28-74-10.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [15:29] slackytude: Could it be that the laptop has not been configured properly to accept the install? [15:30] Lessee, I have two partitions--1 for swap, another for everything else [15:30] how should that be possible? what do you mean by "accept the install" ? [15:30] Perhaps I did not partition properly or something [15:31] slackytude: Mind you, the md5 is not being helpful either--so something is wrong [15:31] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left ##slackware. [15:32] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-83-236.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:32] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:33] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:33] oooh, my Md5 report *finally* came in and it says 'failure' 'failure' 'failure' [15:33] And this is from an image that is seeding [15:33] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [15:33] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-48-15.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:33] which torrent client? [15:34] sahko: Transmission [15:34] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:34] can you restart transmission? [15:34] sahko: will do [15:35] sahko: done [15:35] does it check the files again? does it see anything wrong? [15:35] It is still seeding..at a faster rate now [15:36] ok, i cant help you [15:36] sahko: Okay, thanks for trying [15:36] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-179-140.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:38] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-179-140.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:42] khider: exactly _how_ do you check the md5sum [15:45] alienBOB: Just a sec... [15:45] md5sum -c slackware64-13.0-install-dvd.iso.md5 slackware64-13.0-install-dvd.iso [15:46] looks good... [15:46] Is that correct? (I am a dumb noob) [15:46] Not entirely correct that [15:47] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.155.115) left irc: "Segmentation Fault" [15:47] Leave off the final argument - it will just generate an error [15:47] This should be the command: "md5sum -c slackware64-13.0-install-dvd.iso.md5" [15:49] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: "Leaving" [15:49] alienBOB: "md5sum -c slackware64-13.0-install-dvd.iso.md5" Just that? [15:49] Yes [15:49] alienBOB: Okay, trying [15:50] khider: if you type "man md5sum" or even md5sum --help you will get some helpful information on how to use the command. this usually works for most linux commands. [15:51] kiyoura_ (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:51] godling: Yeah--that is great advice, I have still not taken advantage of man yet--I really should and that is my total bad [15:52] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:52] alienBOB: I tried that command both as a regular user and as root...nothing...it just hovers there... [15:52] yeah [15:52] it will take awhile [15:52] let it work [15:53] godling: Maybe my Gentoo box is just jealous [15:53] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:53] Daniel Robbins implemented a sabotage program [15:53] khider: on what distro are you at the moment, trying this command? [15:53] Gentoo [15:53] explain "hovers there" [15:53] is this the dvd iso? [15:54] alienBOB: [15:54] khider slackware64-13.0-iso # md5sum -c slackware64-13.0-install-dvd.iso.md5 [15:54] alienBOB: That is what I see [15:54] Its..getting the sum.. [15:54] straterra: ahhh [15:54] grow some patience [15:54] yes, I think khider isn't too clear on the md5 concept [15:54] It is a big big file... it will take ti e [15:54] :) [15:54] godling: yes it is [15:54] godling: Khider isn't clear on anything--he is a noob [15:55] khider's box just forgot to -funroll-loops [15:55] khider: welcome to day 1 of hard knocks university [15:55] ;P [15:55] (noone was going to joke?) [15:55] a noob running gentoo on his desktop and wanting slackware on laptop [15:55] thrice`: there's nothing fun about that [15:55] sahko: Yes, I wanna be a big kid now [15:55] stranger things have happened [15:56] slackytude: for a time in the 1980s many children walked out of the house with their clothes on backwards. [15:56] I was told Slackware is the path for a more profound understanding of Linux [15:56] godling, lies! [15:56] i dont believe he runs gentoo. unless someone set it up for him. ubuntu or mandriva at best [15:56] or even not linux [15:56] sahko: I enjoy Gentoo [15:56] gentoo isn't challenging [15:56] sahko: not so harsh please [15:56] I like setting USE flags [15:56] actually... my nephew (who's 3) has a penchant for putting his pants on backwards. [15:57] And running emerge and sync--it does all the work for me [15:57] a person not being able to use md5sum can configure a linux kernel? [15:57] doubt it [15:57] rev-dep rebuild [15:57] khider: Slackware is wjere you are going to do the work [15:57] sahko: why? [15:57] alienBOB: Hence a more profound understanding [15:57] I learned to compile a kernel before I ever ran an md5sum [15:57] which is what I want [15:57] thrice`: well, for starters building a kernel needs patience [15:58] so does reading man pages :P [15:58] gentoo needs patience [15:58] slackytude: http://www.sojones.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/album-totally-krossed-out1.jpg [15:58] and he couldnt even wait for the md5sum to complete checking [15:58] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-48-15.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:58] if I didn't understand md5sum yet, I could understand why one would think it is stalled. anyway, I just don't think your accusations are completely justified :) [15:59] Alan_Hicks: does he listen to Kris Kross? [15:59] sahko: The previous md5sums were instantaneous, so I was wondering something went wrong when I had to wait a few minutes [15:59] Does it matter if it's true? It's certainly confrontational to question it so vehemently :p [15:59] godling: Who? [15:59] I don't mind waiting if it is normal [15:59] hehe [15:59] Alan_Hicks: refer to that image I posted to slackytude ;P [15:59] Like letting a system build can take all day and night [16:00] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) joined ##slackware. [16:00] godling, nooo! [16:00] whenever someone types an elongated no I hear Pedro from Excel Saga [16:01] I will say I have respect for anyone who runs Slackware--so I want to be one of the respected [16:01] dunno that [16:01] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: "leaving" [16:01] R E S P E C T, do you know what it means to me [16:02] slackytude: Sock it to me sock it to me sock it to me- [16:02] those aren't the lyrics [16:02] http://www.bluesforpeace.com/lyrics/respect.htm [16:02] well, you are right [16:02] :) [16:02] howell (n=howell@utdpat242007.utdallas.edu) joined ##slackware. [16:02] I think I captured the spirit, tho [16:03] l4m3rx (n=7350@93.183.131.3) joined ##slackware. [16:03] when Aretha Franklin sings "find out what it means to me" it's like she's about to open up a can of whoop-ass [16:03] godling: I like Otis Redding [16:03] never met the cat [16:03] ;P [16:03] dchmelik (i=1000@66.243.232.122) left irc: "Leaving." [16:04] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XLHvo1TXLY [16:04] See, on the Gentoo channel, the thought police would be after us and say 'keep the topic gentoo!' [16:04] otis redding rocks :) [16:04] khider: we have that here too [16:04] godling, not really [16:04] I haven't been kicked for being offtopic though [16:05] slackytude: it's more of a suggestion [16:05] lagann_ (n=hex@c-24-61-201-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:05] godling: We have to keep the topic here Gentoo as well? [16:05] guess again [16:05] hee hee [16:05] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:05] dchmelik (i=1000@66.243.232.122) joined ##slackware. [16:06] dchmelik (i=1000@66.243.232.122) left irc: Client Quit [16:06] no, we all talk about our adoration for alienBOB [16:06] we do? [16:06] oh, yeah, right [16:06] all the time [16:07] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-15.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:07] dchmelik (i=1000@66.243.232.122) joined ##slackware. [16:07] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:08] actually the people who really contribute to slackware are busy doing useful stuff. mostly it's just us shiftless layabouts who keep the conversation going. [16:08] yep [16:08] which is why I bought slackware [16:08] and a t-shirt ^-^ [16:08] Do you think I should buy the Slackware book? [16:08] I already placed an order for shirts, stickers and pins--I wanna support [16:09] well, depends if you want to stay on slack, does it not? [16:09] slackytude: Yeah I do [16:09] it'd be prudent to wait after setup, I guess [16:10] but it is quite handy [16:10] slackytude: Yeah I just throw tantrums when things go bad sometimes [16:10] But the payoff is generally rewarding [16:11] My first Linux experience was Ubuntu and man that pissed me off [16:11] how so? [16:11] Trying to get the DVD player to work---many times---and then Gentoo it worked right out of the box [16:11] I know the reason why--but after each update it was back to square one [16:12] And when you have friends over to watch a movie... [16:12] eh, the usual then [16:12] Gentoo--none of that issue [16:12] And I am dead certain for Slackware, it is not as issue [16:12] yepp [16:13] if you configure stuff, it stays configured [16:13] the only real annoyances is kde [16:13] I mean, the worst about Gentoo is booting the 'puter after an update and finding you have no GUI [16:14] That is when you get a crash course in command line [16:14] heh [16:15] md5sum -c slackware64-13.0-install-dvd.iso.md5 [16:15] slackware64-13.0-install-dvd.iso: OK [16:15] altho, that can happen on slack, too, if you have nvidia and do a kernel update [16:15] I got my answer folks [16:15] I got an 'OK' [16:15] So maybe it is time for a new laptop [16:16] why? [16:16] Something has to be wrong and I tested the image, tested the burner--that is all that is left [16:16] ? [16:16] didnt you say earlier that this was a new laptop? [16:17] sahko: Yeah, better go exchange it [16:17] you could try once more, now that you know that the iso is definately correct [16:18] use usb installer... [16:18] boniface (n=chatzill@FUSE-DEDICATED-66-161-181-131.fuse.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:18] slackytude: I don't think I'm that smart [16:18] can you follow instructions khider? [16:19] godling: Don't let my mom answer that [16:19] or my teachers [16:20] its not that bad [16:20] godling: Okay, got a link--I'll try that [16:20] phzin (n=Reggae@189.57.19.89) left irc: [16:20] instructions on how to make usb stick are avaible [16:20] in the iso, as well, heh [16:20] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:usbboot [16:20] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425734.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:20] then you would boot, and mount the iso in the live system [16:21] thats about it, really [16:21] https://launchpad.net/byobu i thought you were able to do that only with screen but whatever [16:21] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425734.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:21] godling: Thank you, I will try that [16:22] sahko, hrm [16:22] hrm? [16:23] sahko: It is an expression used by a character in The Watchmen [16:23] i dont know what that is. either movie or book i assume [16:23] comic [16:24] but i know what hrm means :P [16:24] It is a variation of Hmmm [16:24] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:24] sahko: recently there was a live-action adaptation of it. [16:24] sahko: it's very good. [16:25] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:27] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:27] can parted resize ntfs partitions? [16:27] that byobu thing has a nice set of scripts that could be used in general though [16:27] Necos: I've done so with gparted [16:28] sahko: what enhancements does it offer? [16:28] lol, ntfsresize seems much safer [16:29] lol, maybe you could Google and find out [16:29] sahko, not sure I like it [16:29] godling: nothing that cant be done without installing it. screen already has a backtick feature. [16:29] s/a/the [16:29] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:30] godling, both comic and flick are great [16:30] its just a set of scripts for the lazy ones [16:30] [Kairos] (n=Kairos@unaffiliated/kairos) joined ##slackware. [16:30] lots of cat /proc/foo [16:30] slackytude: did you see it in the theatre? [16:30] not really... [16:30] ah [16:31] Necos: Are you resizing a vista or an XP partition? [16:31] then you were not assaulted with the giant blue dong :P [16:32] XP [16:32] engrxyz (n=engrxyz@92.237.248.183) joined ##slackware. [16:32] i was google'ing at the same time i asked [16:32] and saw ntfsresize, and it happened to be useable in backtrack [16:33] O,nevermind, ntfsresize then [16:33] ntfsresize is pretty easy to use actually [16:34] I had gparted on a knoppix livecd [16:34] it was really handy for me [16:35] i'm using a backtrack iso image that i already had ^.^ [16:36] Ah! [16:36] i have the new 6.0 knoppix, but it didn't have gparted/qtparted on it, so i switched it over (i'm resizing a partition for a vm) [16:36] I saw someone with the backtrack wallpaper today in my computer architecture class. [16:37] I've never heard of that distribution. [16:37] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [16:37] it's slax-based [16:37] s/I've/I'd/ [16:38] not anymore [16:40] eh? [16:40] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [16:40] its ubuntu now, I think [16:41] lol i doubt that... v3 definitely is slax-based [16:41] and yes, i do sense the sarcasm (or lack thereof) [16:41] that statement made no sense [16:43] ah, BT4 is debian-based... [16:43] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: "hard reboot" [16:43] Action: slackytude nods [16:44] papajack (n=papajack@unaffiliated/papajack) joined ##slackware. [16:44] hello [16:44] Necos, and ubuntu is to. So, it's construded as being ubuntu because of it ;) [16:44] heh... [16:44] anyone want to buy my Debian t-shirt? There is a heart-shape bloody hole on the front of it [16:44] *shaped [16:45] well, BT is still a very useful tool, especially when you don't want to carry around cds [16:45] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [16:45] all those networking goodies right on a USB stick [16:46] slackware's the same though, it can be on a usb stick or cd or networked to ;) [16:46] pxe [16:46] :D [16:46] you need a pxe server though [16:47] I've done several pxe slack setups - fun [16:47] i usually just boot a laptop with BT on a USB stick [16:47] budd^ (n=budd@76.247.207.70) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:47] Im trying to do NFS via USB [16:47] it eludes me at the moment, tho [16:48] i haven't seen a writeup on doing an install from a bootable usb flash drive tho [16:48] slackytude, good luck :) [16:48] insert USB stick -> load kernel with NFS root [16:48] Skywise, cos it doesnt really differ from the default [16:49] Skywise: you just have to make sure your machine supports bootable usb [16:49] ardya (i=ardy@unaffiliated/ardya) joined ##slackware. [16:49] then make sure it checks usb for a boot image before any other storage [16:49] slackytude, i've always thought the boot disk had a nonstandard partition table [16:49] Ephedrax_ (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-63-67.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:50] lagann_ (i=hex@c-24-61-201-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:50] so you couldn't use 1 stick for boot/root [16:50] Skywise, that does not compute [16:50] syslinux does that [16:50] its just what i got from the readme [16:51] what readme did you read? [16:51] Just because Windows can't see any Linux boot partitions doesn't mean the BIOS can't ;) [16:51] have you ever used fdisk Skywise? [16:51] lol [16:52] you can see there is just a bootable bit that you can flip [16:52] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [16:53] ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/usb-and-pxe-installers/README_USB.TXT [16:53] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.233.168) left irc: "Leaving." [16:54] hmmm [16:55] oh, I see the warning [16:55] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@76.109.186.164) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [16:56] so how were you guys doing it [16:56] AkumaTw0 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [16:57] same way, but I didn't get a warning [16:57] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:57] mount usb - copy files - install syslinux - reboot [16:57] or d/l the usb.img file, dd if=img.file of= [16:58] the latter seems to be more foolproof [16:58] yeah, the process is not the question alisonken1home but the warning is [16:58] Skywise: I haven't done slackware on usb but I did do the same dd process with a puppy linux usb image [16:59] well, it's not that bad actually [16:59] Skywise: I didn't get the warning in fdisk though [16:59] ok - I missed the warning then [16:59] i did get the warning: Disk /dev/sdd doesn't contain a valid partition table [16:59] alisonken1home, dont you have to create an image first with syslinux? [16:59] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-15.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:59] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [16:59] Necos, sdd being a usb stick [16:59] ? [17:00] / [17:00] i'm just wondering why there isn't a usb bootable install like there is for dvd [17:00] nope - syslinux installs on a _mounted_ partition - i.e., syslinux /mnt/usb [17:00] Skywise, there is [17:00] i don't see it on the site [17:00] after copying the appropriate files to your udb mounted drive [17:00] Skywise, search around the FTP server and you'll find it [17:00] Skywise, usbboot.img and img2disk.sh or something like that [17:00] it will make a bootable minimalist USB stick [17:00] you were just reading the readme file for it Skywise [17:01] yeah, thats what we're talkign about [17:01] then you download some packages to it [17:01] but it doesn't provide for putting the install files on the usb drive [17:01] Skywise, that's not necessary though :| [17:01] no, i'm pretty sure it just makes a usb boot disk [17:01] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-104-216.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:01] Action: NthDegree installed his system using upgradepkg and such [17:01] and then you install from nfs or whatever [17:02] Action: godling rings Skywise's doorbell and runs away [17:02] i wanted to include the install media [17:02] the script has an option to include install files [17:03] ok - back to sleep for me [17:04] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@96.21.131.161) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [17:04] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/tools/usbinstall/13.0/ [17:04] ok that script is something i hadn't seen [17:04] gn alice_c [17:04] err gn alisonken1home [17:04] i'm reading it [17:06] Nick change: rubick_ -> rubick [17:06] rubick (n=rc@unaffiliated/rubick) left irc: "leaving" [17:07] ok thats just what i need, but thats not whats on the ftp site [17:07] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:10] good night [17:10] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [17:11] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [17:11] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:13] so how did you find that? [17:13] alienbobs wiki [17:14] i see [17:17] ardya (i=ardy@unaffiliated/ardya) left ##slackware ("BitchX: There is no reason."). [17:18] zomg, i just realized now i can edit tagfiles on the install cd, thats gonna be so handy [17:18] alienBOB's resources are quite useful [17:19] Okay, what does it mean when a cursor blinks in the top left hand corner of a screen--do I wait--or do something? [17:19] pi31415 (n=bcollver@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [17:19] Before the install [17:19] i'm even thinking about making my own set of packages now [17:19] it has no meaning in and of itself [17:19] What is a job title for someone who rebuilds PC's, sets up printers, and does other well defined technical tasks? [17:19] darlek (n=xfgvbsx@212.183.134.208) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:20] I rebooted and have the install disc in there (trying one more time with a new DVD) [17:20] grunt [17:20] its just a cursor, if your hd light is active then i'd wait, if not then you're prolly hung [17:20] commonly referred to as "Technician" [17:20] pi31415: microsoft super special admin [17:20] lol [17:20] Necos: that is what I was looking for [17:20] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [17:20] I have rebooted 4 times already [17:20] i don't think thats a factor [17:20] Same result--blinking screen...hmmm [17:21] it might be hanging trying to initialize your graphics screen [17:21] hard to say, the error doesn't have much detail [17:21] access a disk/drive [17:22] depends on what part of the install process [17:22] xsamurai: I am starting at the very begining--once more [17:22] Blank slate--disc goes in--boot [17:22] AkumaTw3 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:22] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "lalala caindo fora" [17:23] so what do I press...cntrl alt (not delete) or is it f something? [17:23] khider: did you set cdrom as primary boot device [17:23] ctrl-alt-f2 goes to 2nd pseudo terminal [17:24] Necos: THat's the spirit soldier! [17:25] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:26] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Success [17:27] AkumaTw0 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:29] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [17:29] So when I open a terminal and type out a line that is longer than the width of the window, it seems like Bash just shifts everything to the left (off the screen) and continues on the same line... how do I make it wrap to the next line instead? [17:31] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [17:32] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left ##slackware. [17:32] eh? [17:32] i don't think you can (though I've never tried) [17:33] hm...., maybe it's not bash [17:33] it's probably your terminal settings [17:34] john-uea (i=Omni@stud189135.mobiel.utwente.nl) left irc: [17:34] what terminal are you using? [17:34] AkumaTw0 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:34] aterm [17:34] I just realize it doesn't happen in rxvt or xterm [17:34] AkumaTw3 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:35] sirslacker1 (n=root@p579B5AF3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving." [17:35] aterm is fun, but no unicode support made me angry [17:35] it was my term of choice until recently [17:36] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:36] it's not $TERM, because aterm reports rxvt but rxvt behaves differently [17:36] Necos , same thing here, i switched to xterm and now godling pointed at urxvt , pretty cool [17:37] urxvt++ [17:37] which is what i use now [17:38] mrxvt is cool, fix up a ~/.mrxvtrc and it looks fairly nice [17:39] wait... it doesn't happen with csh or tcsh, and happends differently with ksh [17:39] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:39] so I'm confused, is it a terminal issue or a shell issue? [17:39] Pig_Pen: i just swithed to urxvt dont you dare point to something cooler [17:39] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:39] lol [17:39] xsamurai: think urxvt, only add tabs. :) [17:40] i don't like tabs :P [17:40] I don't like you. :P [17:40] fire|bird: urxvt does tabs as well from what i read [17:40] well, fire|bird, the feeling is mutual :) [17:40] fire|bird: I second that, down with Necos! [17:40] hahahaha [17:40] hahaha [17:40] ksh does the weird shift-text-left thing on all three terminals, bash only does it in aterm, csh/tcsh work normally on all three [17:41] xsamurai: I didn't think it could. If it could, then mrxvt is sort of pointless, isn't it? :P [17:41] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:41] Necos: Why don't you like tabs? :P [17:42] Action: Necos stabs xsamurai and fire|bird [17:42] Action: fire|bird deflects the knife and xsamurai gets stabbed twice. [17:42] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [17:42] i just can't stand when i need to compare two terms side-by-side [17:42] lol [17:42] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [17:42] Action: xsamurai http://princ3.wordpress.com/2006/10/01/unicode-terminal-with-tabs-support/ [17:42] Necos: that's a good reason. :) [17:42] Necos: thats cuz you're poor [17:43] poor? >.> [17:43] rich ppl like me and fire|bird have 1 monitor for every terminal [17:43] lol [17:43] AkumaTw0 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:43] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.113.154.202) joined ##slackware. [17:43] i have just one monitor but it is 26 inches [17:43] xsamurai: but when you get up to around 15-20 terminals, it's a pita [17:44] flexscan l788-i >.<; [17:44] xsamurai: Ah, so it can be tabbed, but it needs perl support [17:44] seeeeee [17:45] xsamurai: good find. :) [17:45] google skillz [17:45] Necos: as for your useless stabbing, remember that xsamurai has a samurai, he could slice you to bits. :) [17:45] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.84.186) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:46] he can chop off a fly's testicles with a sword, while blindfolded [17:46] flovejah (n=flaviu@78.97.215.212) left irc: "Leaving." [17:46] Hmm, SBo's rxvt-unicode has perl support [17:46] hahahahaha [17:46] mancha that fly better be on Viagra [17:47] im not as good as I use to be [17:47] xsamurai: ok, figure this out, I already have perl support but I haz no tabs. :) [17:47] :P [17:47] If a fly took viagra, he wouldn't be able to fly. :) [17:48] http://www.retrevo.com/search?q=Eizo+L788-i&rt=sp [17:48] there ya go [17:48] dude i just started using it like 5 minutes ago, you'd have ask godling or somebody who has more usage time then me [17:48] i almost never use tabs, but that wont stop me from using mrxvt or yakuake or sakura, its not like you _have_ to use them [17:49] Pig_Pen, i was saying i don't _need_ them :) [17:49] Pig_Pen: those sound like japanese porno names [17:49] lol [17:49] dang! i got fingerprints on my glasses, brb, i gotta go to the kitchen to clean them [17:49] lol lunchtime :) [17:50] heh, I got it. don't ask what I did wrong. :( [17:50] im going to write a book about my experience as an admin after i quit my job [17:51] nice [17:51] cmair (n=cmair@host231-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. 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The last I had tried that, a year or so ago, it had said I couldn't :P [17:57] fire|bird: haha good :P [17:57] dchmelik (i=1000@66.243.232.122) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:57] deco: How's xfce going for ya? :D [17:58] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:00] fire|bird: greate enjoying every second of it :D [18:00] awesome :) [18:01] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:03] fire|bird: I just need some time to personalize it , I'm going through designer's block atm , trying to design a banner for a site [18:03] :/ [18:04] lol [18:04] fire|bird: it's driving me creazy, It's making my abusing :P lol [18:04] me* [18:05] Is this still for your drupal theme? [18:05] fire|bird: yeah [18:05] xsamurai (n=munki@pool-71-106-233-110.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving." 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[18:18] Modifying the SBo for the old version gives me a Skype that segfaults [18:19] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:20] m314 (n=mt@87.63.32.249) left irc: "leaving" [18:23] stunix (i=1000@80.239.44.253) left irc: "Dare to slack! Praise "Bob"!" [18:26] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:28] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:31] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: "Saliendo" [18:34] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:34] no bassist >.<;; [18:35] i noticed cinelerra is listed on freshmeat with a new release, anyone use that? is it any better than avidemux? [18:35] [maleko] (n=[]@unaffiliated/maleko/x-198721) joined ##slackware. [18:35] stunix (i=1000@80.239.44.253) joined ##slackware. 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[18:47] i just built it, i did see an error with the built-in yet third party bundled theora, the way if fixed it was go in to thirdparty/theora.xxx and run ./configure --without-examples then start the make command over with cinelerra [18:47] budd^ (n=budd@adsl-75-54-116-224.dsl.renocs.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:48] it built after i did that without errors, i just have not done anything with it so i dont know how good it is, the app loads just fine without a problem [18:48] ah [18:48] metriccwrench: perhaps a joke to throw off third-party tools? [18:48] it supports a couple more formats [18:49] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:49] just a theora / slackware conflict or some missing dependency was making theora error out [18:50] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [18:52] pi31415 (n=bcollver@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: "ircII EPIC4-2.8 -- Are we there yet?" [18:53] cmair (n=cmair@host231-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:54] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-40-156.multimo.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:57] im trying to use linux .. obviously slackware as my main desktop at the office but i just can't do it [18:57] jeev: Welcome to Slackaholics Anonymous [18:57] one pathetic reason why, i remote desktop a lot to my vista box at home and it looks terrible and is slow.. [18:57] ;/ [18:58] cool! i wonder if that is the "Anonymous" that has been attacking Scientology? i hope so :D [18:58] same one ;) [18:58] Hello all! Anyone know how to use vim with crontab instead elvis in Slackware 12.0 without comatible mode? I've made symlink vi for vim, but if i edit crontab as root, changes aren't saved. With non-root user everything is ok. [18:59] what? [18:59] dont get me started on scientology [18:59] s/comatible/compatible [18:59] Coolmax: thar be dragons [19:00] Coolmax: are you using crontab -e ? [19:00] yes [19:00] metriccwrench: he is doing that but the changes are not saved [19:00] Coolmax: I had the same issue on Slack 10.2, but forgot what I did to fix it. [19:01] one of solution is set vim to compatible mode, but I don't want change it [19:02] edit root's .vimrc? [19:02] Coolmax: I don't remember when I started doing it, or if this fixed it, but I removepkg elvis and change the symlink. [19:02] Coolmax: export VISUAL=/path/to/vim [19:02] http://www.monkey.org/openbsd/archive/bugs/0302/msg00066.html [19:02] Bassist (n=bass@mnch-5d855143.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:03] godling, I think that will not be helpful [19:03] refugiado (n=refugiad@187.41.225.152) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:03] what are you trying to do? [19:03] edit crontab? [19:03] yes [19:03] it will work [19:04] s/will/should/ [19:04] works here [19:04] there are two variables that can control that, EDITOR and VISUAL [19:05] hmm, but IMHO export EDITOR/VISUAL variable is same thing as making symlink /usr/bin/vim /usr/bin/vi [19:06] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:06] but it's not apparently... >.> [19:07] since it wasn't working for you :P [19:07] heh :P [19:07] Coolmax: how is symbolically linking a file the same thing as setting an environment variable? [19:07] that doesn't even make sense [19:07] but it is strange that problem is only for root user [19:08] Coolmax: does your user account have either of those variables set? [19:08] no [19:08] vi -> elvis, vim -> vim [19:09] [19:09] and I assume that default behaviour crontab is handle vi as editor [19:09] eh? [19:09] why would you assume that? [19:10] it would be system dependent [19:10] w8 [19:10] i can't parse that coment [19:10] crontab -e uses vi be default and vi, by default, is symlinked to elvis [19:10] mancha: "I assume that the default behavior for crontab is to use vi as an editor." [19:10] s/be/by/ [19:10] I speak broken English :P [19:10] godling: engrish [19:11] hehehe [19:11] godling: what a coincidence - I break spoken English :) [19:11] Necos: why would he edit his .vimrc? [19:11] Necos: That does not compute. [19:11] yeah, sorry for my poor english [19:11] poor for my sorry english. [19:11] SoCKeT (n=pablo@46.Red-88-22-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [19:11] I don't speak a word of Polish. :P [19:11] firebird, speaketh the truth [19:11] no worries [19:11] SoCKeT (n=pablo@46.Red-88-22-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [19:12] godling, he said "compatible mode", so i was thinking he should just edit .vimrc (which, IIRC, both vi and vim use) [19:12] crontab -e will call /usr/bin/vi which is a symlink pointing to elvis [19:12] soo,,, could it be as simple as changing the vi symlink to point to vim? [19:12] Pig_Pen: yes [19:12] aadfj;af [19:12] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [19:12] That's what I do on a fresh install is change that symlink [19:13] yes, rm /usr/bin/vi; ln -s /usr/bin/vim /usr/bin/vi [19:13] this'll make "vi" run vim [19:13] easier: if you just don't install elvis, the install links vi to vim for you :) [19:13] 1. export VISUAL=/path/to/vim; crontab -e 2. env VISUAL=/path/to/vim crontab -e 3. ln -s /path/to/vim /path/to/vi [19:14] pick one [19:14] :P [19:14] i thought elvis was required these days, heh... [19:14] its marked as required, but like any true slacker, I ignore that and deselect it anyway [19:14] ... the results are good [19:14] sometimes I think the aliens put you people here to test me [19:15] elvis has left the buiding [19:15] lol [19:15] godling: We're just following our marching orders. :D [19:15] mancha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXigfZGqsLM [19:16] i like elvis, were it not for that what would i do with the hour i spend removing obnoxious .ses files? [19:16] lol [19:16] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [19:16] has anyone here ever had Riot Cola? [19:17] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [19:17] so is there any good solution for use vim? Or stay with elvis? [19:17] Coolmax: I just gave you three. [19:17] coolmax, try them both, see which you prefer [19:17] riot cola? :P [19:17] Necos: Yes, it is a new brand I found that is only $.75 per 2-liter bottle. [19:18] if you're new to "vi" then you can pick, some poeple are very used to vim so using elvis is a slap in the face [19:18] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.49.34.202) joined ##slackware. [19:18] wow [19:19] godling, what kind of sugar content does that have? lol [19:19] godling: Same place as the Top Ramen noodles? :P [19:19] yes fire|bird [19:19] yesyes_, crontab uses vim, but changes are not saved if i do this as root [19:19] Fresh and Easy [19:19] owned by Tesco corporation [19:19] it's, like most things, all about preference. some people hate the vi's altogether and use pico, nano, kate, joe, mousepad (wtf?), ... [list goes on forever] [19:19] Coolmax: crontab does not use vim unless you've linked vi to vim. [19:19] sorry for typo but it's late ;) [19:19] pico forever ! [19:19] (Tesco is a UK supermarket chain) [19:20] pico 4 lyfe! :) [19:20] I've never used pico, just vim, and then mousepad occasionally. [19:21] but my links are now correct, and i checked with help that is vim, not elvis [19:21] heh, pico's real similar to nano [19:21] Otasco is a US sporting goods chain, you can even buy shotguns and pistols :D [19:21] incredibly similar [19:21] Coolmax: Are you actually saving it when you make edits. [19:21] nano is a pico ripoff, after all [19:21] lol Pig_Pen [19:21] and Otasco is a good place to stock up for a riot. [19:21] thus we come full circle. [19:21] fire|bird: :wq will be ok? :) [19:21] thank you Pig_Pen [19:21] yup [19:22] Action: godling shoots Pig_Pen in the pinky toe [19:22] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:22] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:22] i live far far away from the big cities & ghettos, the only riots around here are squirrels fighting over acorns [19:22] hippy [19:23] lol [19:23] i love it, the only thing i see when i look out the window are trees [19:23] apparently, godling's been watching Harlem Nights [19:23] I repeat: hippy [19:23] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:24] i like trees... i like trees near water even more [19:24] tree hugger. [19:24] fire|bird, ok, I'm saying 3rd this: crontab uses vim now. If I make changes as normal user everything is ok, but if i change as root, changes are not saved [19:24] steponit (n=cmp@c-71-205-55-118.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:24] i have mostly oak trees, but i have a few pine trees and i planted some maple trees [19:24] my arms aren't wide enough to hug a tree you insensitive clod [19:25] there is a dry creek bed in the back, the only time it is full of water is during and after a big rain [19:25] the question is, does it hug you back? [19:25] howell (n=howell@utdpat242007.utdallas.edu) left irc: Connection timed out [19:26] What's up? [19:26] trees need to evolve arms and then I'll consider hugging one [19:26] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:27] but you can bite one for fun :) [19:27] OMG - there's a vi plugin for Outlook ! sweet - I'm there ... [19:27] >.> [19:27] you need vi in outlook? [19:28] rk4n3, there's also a vim-hack for firefox, seen it? [19:28] rk4n3: you know what the Magic 8 ball says about that [19:28] mancha: I checked that out some time ago - it wasn't stable then - worth another look now though I suppose :) [19:28] Coolmax: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/crontab-problem-in-slackware-10.2-601740/ [19:28] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-83-236.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:28] you use outlook? [19:28] Necos: I need vi for everything [19:28] godling: no choice - corporate nazis [19:29] wtf happened, i just unplugged and plugged my wireless card in, and boom, slack crashes [19:29] you've always got a choice [19:29] godling: yeah, if I wanna give up my paycheck [19:29] still a choice [19:29] ;P [19:29] phtptpt [19:29] :) [19:29] rk4n3, i can't tell you if its stable or not, it lasted a few minutes on my boxen, just thought i'd let you know [19:29] mancha: :) [19:30] vi for everything? there's an XKCD comic about that :P [19:30] well, it's about wikipedia... [19:30] I use butterflies. [19:30] Action: rk4n3 looks up the xkcd cartoon ... [19:31] r4n3k? [19:31] 333 [19:31] http://xkcd.com/333/ [19:31] Action: Necos has it bookmarked [19:31] thx [19:32] hopeless [19:32] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:32] khider (n=khider@69.172.80.137) left irc: "leaving" [19:32] Necos: oh, I get it [19:32] :) [19:32] Necos: first I'm like "Hey, there's no vi in here, I got gyped" [19:32] :) [19:33] [maleko] (n=[]@unaffiliated/maleko/x-198721) left irc: "()" [19:33] vi and ksh are far better brain extensions than Wikipedia though [19:34] but yeah, i think about that comic anytime i hear someone says that they "need" something for "everything" :) [19:34] hehe [19:35] "i can't live without my iphone" <--- for example [19:35] hey rk4n3 wherez teh vi? [19:35] _bruno (n=bruno@187.41.79.135) joined ##slackware. [19:35] godling, thanks anyway. I ask about this problem, because i edit manually crontabs, kill crond and start until now, but i want to do this in "good" way :) and i don't like elvis. [19:35] compgenius999: ? [19:35] in teh comic [19:35] Action: Necos laughs [19:35] Coolmax, what do you dislike about elvis? [19:36] it's called reference [19:36] mancha: he's dead, for one thing [19:36] well, that sounds like a personal problem [19:36] mancha: elvis has some weird quirks, one of the reasons I switched the link to vim. [19:36] y0 rk4n3 [19:36] hey fire|bird :) [19:36] rk4n3: How's it going? [19:37] Coolmax: those suggestions didn't work for you? [19:37] Coolmax: what version of slackware are you using? [19:37] running elvis via ssh = fail [19:37] the truth concerning vi: elvis and vim are *both* clones of the original vi and its direct descendents - neither can claim "genetic superiority", and when looking at features and interoperability, vim is hands-down the winner [19:38] 12.0 [19:38] fire|bird: not too bad - worked from home today - sweet :) [19:38] Coolmax, what is it you don't like about elvis? [19:38] rk4n3: One of the reasons I switched the symlink for vi to vim is that in elvis, backspace, etc. wouldn't even work. :P [19:38] rk4n3: awesome. :) [19:38] because if my hunch is right, you'll find vim does the same thing [19:38] mancha: he is saying that he cannot save crontab files [19:38] or do you get that? [19:39] godling: however, he can't save them now either. :P [19:39] vim and elvis have the same save comman [19:39] mancha, It's hard to say, but for me - newbie, with vim i simply press insert and switch modes - input/replace/command, in elvis i even don't know what to press :D [19:39] nevermind [19:39] Coolmax: Those commands are the same. [19:39] oh ok, so you have valid reasons. that's acceptable now! [19:39] herding cats :P [19:39] retarded cats [19:39] someone said cats ? [19:40] deco: Go back to your theme. :P [19:40] fire|bird: yes master [19:40] oh' i checked now - oops :) [19:40] Action: deco goes make to the gimp [19:40] oops? [19:40] what does oops mean Coolmax? [19:40] back*damn!!!!! [19:40] both vim and vi will obey the "insert" keypress though [19:40] godling: he realized the commands are the same. :P [19:40] polish ups :D [19:40] er, both vim and elvis (sorry) [19:41] is that the consternation? [19:41] Action: fire|bird hands deco a dictionary. [19:41] yup, even the vi included in the BSDs are the same by 99% [19:41] Coolmax: did your problem solve itself? [19:41] fire|bird: won't help , patience if my problem :P [19:41] is* see lol [19:41] lol [19:41] blah [19:42] Action: deco really goes back to the gimp [19:42] "I want patients and I want it now!" -author unknown [19:42] deco: you fail. :) [19:42] [in bed] [19:43] :O [19:43] TMI, TMI. [19:43] um, that sorta backfired I think deco [19:43] rk4n3: that was the whole point silly [19:43] self flaggelation [19:43] wait, there was a point? [19:43] fire|bird: my thoughts exactly [19:43] :) [19:43] *flaggellation [19:43] rk4n3: Great minds think alike. :) [19:44] "Great" [19:44] steponit (n=cmp@c-71-205-55-118.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [19:44] idiots too [19:44] said that running elvis via ssh = fail - what does mean? [19:44] haha [19:44] deco: and right now, you're in the idiot crowd. :) [19:44] it means you should ignore that comment [19:44] lol [19:44] fire|bird: yes :( [19:44] oh, i see :) [19:44] Coolmax: That is beyond your scope, don't overdo it, you need to work on saving edited documents first. :P [19:44] i tried to run elvis via ssh and i got disconnected [19:44] lol [19:45] fire|bird: lol [19:45] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-83-236.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:46] >.> [19:47] ughh, stupid wireless.... [19:47] wire yourself in! [19:47] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:47] wicd says i'm connected fine as 192.168.1.49, i try to ping my router and it gives me destination host unreachable... [19:47] you know what's bad? when i can perl 1-liner an equation faster than i can type it in to my TI-86... [19:48] why is that bad? [19:48] Necos, damn, whats the equation? [19:48] ok, this is strange for me in elvis: in input mode, when I am deleting chars with bckspce I don't see effects until I use right arrow key - that is my main reason :D [19:48] 1*1? [19:48] compgenius999: It's Necos we're talking about, it's 1+1 :P [19:48] Coolmax, use nano [19:48] compgenius999: thats..not an equation :P [19:48] no equal sign! [19:49] it was just a calculation of a line :P [19:49] share Necos, we like to solve math problems here [19:49] y - Y = m ( x - X ) :P [19:49] Coolmax: That's why I switched to vim, why are you back to elvis now? :P [19:49] a line! [19:49] compgenius999, real newbies like me use mcedit :) [19:49] point-slope for $800, alex [19:49] fire|bird: see idiots think alike , i use vim too! :D [19:50] wtf is mcedit? [19:50] OHGODWHY? I'm switchin to pico. :P [19:50] i just finished taking linear algebra... i haven't used a calculater in over a year :) [19:50] compgenius999: text editor [19:50] compgenius999: mc's built-in editor [19:50] iirc [19:50] fire|bird: damn fine ill switch to emacs ;P [19:50] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [19:50] *calculator [19:50] lol [19:50] Necos: and you work in a school, right? :P [19:50] lol [19:50] you invert 5x5's by hand? are you chuck norris? [19:51] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:51] fire|bird, yeah, network admin for a high school (but kids here are too stupid to use their TI-83s) :) [19:51] lol [19:52] In my high school, there we times that on tests, graphing calculators were mandatory to make sure we knew how to use them. [19:53] these kids can't do basic algebra sometimes :) [19:53] fire|bird: lucky, we couldn't touch one at all [19:53] I could in high school, I am horrible at it now. :P [19:53] failed all my math classes :( [19:54] i'm a physics major tho, so i have to take a lot of math :( [19:54] 1 + 1 = ? [19:54] deco: not luck, it doesn't exactly go well when calculators are encouraged. :P The schools should be teaching YOU to do the math, not how to have the calculator do the math. [19:54] compgenius999: Umm, 4? :P (real answer = 2) [19:55] 1 + 1 = 5 [19:55] 2 + 2 = 5 for really large values of 2. [19:55] if this is wrong half of america is going to explode [19:55] and you call yourself a genius. sham, sham, shame. [19:55] argh [19:55] spelling whoops [19:55] s/sham/shame/ [19:55] :/ [19:55] does anybody know how to use nano instead of vi inside sbopkg? [19:55] Action: compgenius999 types 5 into the answer box for 1 + 1 on the nuclear reactor [19:55] is it possible? [19:56] wtf no boom? [19:56] *KABOOOOOOOOOM* [19:56] fire|bird: well they helped a lot at college, got my first B ever :P [19:56] happy? [19:56] deco: haha [19:56] hahaha [19:56] congrats deco [19:57] Necos: thanks lol [19:57] deco: but do you know how to that math WITHOUT a calculator now? [19:57] fire|bird: hellno [19:57] see [19:57] calculators = not good. :P [19:57] Necos: um, 2+2=6 for really large values of 2 [19:57] doneEzy (n=slak@189.82.62.166) joined ##slackware. [19:58] go start reading this site: http://www.learner.org/courses/mathilluminated/ [19:58] deco: ^^^ [19:58] so [19:58] so what? [19:58] i finally got my wireless to reconnect [19:58] fire|bird: :O [19:58] xfce is much faster than kde on slackware64 13 [19:58] slackware really doesn't work very well with wireless :( [19:59] fire|bird: might teach me more than all my teachers could [19:59] Calculators are bad in lazy hands, useful for people who are using them for speed and not to cut corners (there's a distinction there I think) [19:59] compgenius999: other way around [19:59] deco: it's an AWESOME math site. [19:59] Lazy is when someone types in a load of stuff, gets the answer and then just accepts it without applying some basic logic to see if the answer is at least reasonable [19:59] fire|bird: thanks :D [19:59] I took a calculator course in college, that was fun. [19:59] 80085 [19:59] lol [20:00] fire|bird: what was your major? [20:00] Computer Support Tech [20:00] AlexElliott quite a distinction [20:00] fire|bird: nice, if i go back to college it's going to be computer science [20:00] haha - the calculator course was like "CPR for infants" [20:01] Nick change: Kamus_Away[xi] -> Kamus_H_Zwisch [20:01] fire|bird: what year did you take the calculator course? [20:01] three men check into a hotel, the rate is $25/room and they decide to share it. so they each give the owner a $10 and go upstairs. the owner gives the bellhop $5 in change. since $5 can't be split three-ways the bellhop gives each back $1 (and pockets $2). So now they've each pair $9 (9 times 3 =27) plus the $2 that the bellhop kept is $29. where's the missing dollar?! [20:01] neonflux: Umm, 2nd year iirc. It was one of the gen ed's. [20:01] http://imagebin.org/65270 this is just awful!!! [20:02] mancha... shaddap :) [20:02] *they've each paid $9 [20:02] agrees with Necos [20:02] fire|bird: bookmarked :P [20:02] lol [20:02] deco: good :) [20:03] fire|bird: you know what's really bad ? [20:03] ok, necos and deco voted me off the island! [20:03] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [20:03] lol [20:03] fire|bird: i don't know my times table lol [20:03] :) [20:04] damn he quit [20:04] Bah, stupid problem, and then it turns out to be a non-problem, because the 27+2 assertion fails :p [20:04] I HAVE THE ANSWER!!! [20:04] it's the .33$ [20:04] Quiznos: I thought you were going to say "$5 subs" [20:04] :) [20:05] haha [20:05] heh [20:05] lol [20:05] you guys have never seen that problem before? [20:05] They didn't pay 27 plus 2, they paid 27 [20:05] i have [20:05] i think but the answer is obv [20:05] it is once you know it [20:05] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [20:05] "cant be divided" and a missing dollar after sharing? [20:05] it's gotta be the change [20:06] and `3' figers prominently in the prob [20:06] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-144-195-112.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [20:06] If you take it down to just the money going to and from the three men [20:06] AlexElliott: close, but they actually each paid $10 and only recieved part of the change back - if they were to get all the change, they'd have to get 5/3 = $1.33(333) cents back [20:06] 1.66 each ? [20:06] see .33 [20:06] lol [20:06] ##slackware has now become ##slackware-mathematics [20:07] rk4n3 will be your instructor this evening. [20:07] Action: Necos parts ##slackware-mathematics [20:07] ... yeah, .33 assuming they're agreeing to give the $2 tip, that is [20:07] I miss that there's a "missing dollar", there's a missing two, and they're in the bellhop's pocket [20:07] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:07] This 29 figure makes no sense to me, the 2 dollars is part of the 27 they paid [20:07] error_developer_ (n=errordev@host86-157-112-91.range86-157.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:07] So adding it on again is counting it twice [20:07] someone post Manch'a question [20:07] ta da [20:08] Mancha's [20:08] three men check into a hotel, the rate is $25/room and they decide to share it. so they each give the owner a $10 and go upstairs. the owner gives the bellhop $5 in change. since $5 can't be split three-ways the bellhop gives each back $1 (and pockets $2). So now they've each pair $9 (9 times 3 =27) plus the $2 that the bellhop kept is $29. where's the missing dollar?! [20:08] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:08] what happened to svnadmin? [20:08] Action: deco kicks fire|bird [20:08] nvm [20:09] Action: fire|bird flips deco the bird......oh wait....... :) [20:09] the person who installed this only had a few packages installed [20:09] birds don't have fingers [20:09] doneEzy (n=slak@189.82.62.166) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:09] Kerio2004 (n=Port@212.215.217.192) joined ##slackware. [20:09] yea, the missing 1$ is the .33 cents that cant be divided [20:09] deco: I have talons you insensitive clod. [20:09] each man shulda gotten 1.33 [20:09] and the bellhop a penny; the tief [20:09] can't stand the math anymore im leaving [20:09] lol [20:09] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [20:09] Each person should've gotten 1.66 [20:09] lol [20:10] no [20:10] they paid 9 dollars with the $2, not 9 PLUS $2 [20:10] .33 [20:10] hahaha [20:10] 1.33 [20:10] Multiply that by three, Quiznos [20:10] Does it make 5? :p [20:10] so its 9 times 3 = 27 , plus 3 dollars from each = $30 [20:10] no, its not supposed to add up to 30 [20:10] yea the men got 9 [20:10] and the tief kept 2 [20:10] that shoulda been divided in coin [20:11] You all are losers...for the record [20:11] the problem is in the "they each paid $9" - they each paid $10 and didn't get all their change back ... (30 - 5) / 3 != 9 ! [20:11] The men paid 9, didn't "get" 9 [20:11] they DID NOT pay 9 ! [20:11] that's backwards thinking; ew [20:11] no, listen [20:11] guys..guys..guys.. [20:11] what they paid was 10 each. [20:11] The question is..who cares? [20:11] but the counter defrauded them five [20:11] lol [20:11] they paid 10 each, but everyone got 1 dollar back [20:11] I'll make up the extra dollar for them [20:12] And got one back, net outgoing 9 each [20:12] it's aproblem in logic so be logical [20:12] straterra lol [20:12] there is no extra dollar [20:12] sure there is [20:12] I'll give a lot of extra dollars! [20:12] There isn't, the 29 figure is wrong... honest :p [20:12] how? [20:12] the men ended up paying $27 for the room instead of $25 cause the bellhop stole 2 [20:12] The 2 dollars is part of the 27 that's already counted [20:12] If my two other friends were sitting there trying to figure it out..I'd give them both a one and tell them to STFU [20:12] LOL [20:12] XFS or JFS on a software RAID-5 array with six 2TB HDDs? [20:12] lol strat [20:12] You can't then add it on to make 29 [20:13] I seriously would [20:13] so the $3 they got back from the $30 makes it $27 [20:13] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-40-156.multimo.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [20:13] ok i'm done [20:13] And..what kind of man shares a cheap hotel room with 2 other men? [20:13] *coughgaycough* [20:13] superman, the matrix, flashforward; i cant pick a show tonight [20:13] The dollar is the gay tax [20:13] its a trick question [20:13] bs [20:13] there's no tax [20:13] it's a tax-free enterprise zone [20:14] good grief, you're still debating over this. :P [20:14] It's the gay tax! [20:14] pff; the clowns are giving up :) [20:14] they say its 27 plus the 2 the bellboy pocketed, but plus in that context doesn't mean in addition to [20:14] At this point, I reiterate straterra's statement. 1910 straterra> The question is..who cares? [20:15] Obviously us ;) [20:15] what they mean to say is that they paid 27 and the bell boy pocketed 2 of those from the owner [20:15] apparently. :P [20:15] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [20:15] omg Kor'el is back [20:16] man, i just can't seem to get logic thru to you guys [20:16] Hey don't lump everyone together here :( [20:16] wht logic? [20:16] no, i'm sorry AlexElliott, you got it [20:17] when they say its 27 and the bellboy got 2, they don't mean its 27+2 [20:17] IT's SATURDAY!!! [20:17] yay [20:17] they paid 25+2 [20:17] 25 to the hotel, 2 to the bell boy [20:17] repost the math question? [20:17] there is no missing dollar [20:17] It isn't Saturday, it's 19:16 9.25.09 [20:17] but we're home except for Ken [20:17] that makes it saturday [20:18] OMG, your logic is non-existant [20:18] heh [20:18] repost the math question? [20:18] ? [20:18] you still don't see? [20:19] Fri Sep 25 19:19:02 CDT 2009 [20:19] i'm looking... [20:19] saturday, it's [20:19] all you east coasters STFU :) [20:19] it's sayruday [20:19] heh [20:19] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [20:19] Action: deco feels better [20:19] Dude, you're in Florida, THAT'S EAST COAST [20:20] the day starts at sundown. [20:20] the sun is down. [20:20] lol [20:20] if you live west of the international date line then its saturday, it wont be saturday in the usa until tomarrow, or after midnight [20:20] OMG, you're an idiot. :P [20:20] and who's arguing the pernt? [20:20] i live west of the line [20:20] a long west away from it. [20:20] What line, the line you drew in your driveway? [20:20] lol [20:21] from west of the international dateline until you get to the midnight zone its saturday, once you cross the zone you are back in friday [20:21] the line of greenwhich is outside my door [20:21] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) joined ##slackware. [20:21] vim commands... [20:21] :wq [20:21] are they really worth it [20:21] sure [20:21] yesyes_: yesyes [20:21] yea yea, sure sure (another exclusive macro by Quiznos) [20:21] heh [20:22] mmm, new kryptonians [20:22] i've been using notepad++ at work, and i really like that... but to get vim to be as user friendly i have to learn loads of commands... is it really worth it... [20:22] yesyes_ vim is fully flexible and programmable. is notepad? [20:22] i don't like having to play chords for commands [20:23] that's emacs; not vim [20:23] not sure if i need that. well i've found no need for it thus far. [20:23] k [20:23] think macro processing in vim [20:23] yesyes_: people who know vi would never use notepad if they had a choice - that should answer the "is it worth it" question [20:23] vim needs alot of keystrokes too [20:23] that's its programmability but better [20:24] yesyes_: vim is on pretty much every linux system [20:24] vi is mandatory for unix.. [20:24] So yeah..it helps to learn it [20:24] the difficulty is finding out if learning all the commands, all the macros etc, will actually make me a lot more productive. [20:25] It wont hurt [20:25] yesyes_ you're using np++ on a winbox? [20:25] heh [20:25] yesyes_: another way to look at is - the only creatures walking for their main mode of transportation are those that can't fly or drive [20:25] yesyes vimtutor [20:25] i'm using gvim now btw, as i use linux at home. notepad++ is only for work. [20:25] I use vim in windows [20:25] yesyes_ render unto windows what is its; render unto Linux what is its. [20:25] lol [20:25] and forget about the dollar [20:26] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A73F8F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:26] i have to say though. i'm a bit sick of pressing escape all the time. i often prefer the emacs finger karma sutra. [20:27] hit escape with your pinky.. [20:27] rofl [20:27] takes like no effort [20:27] that's vfuni yesyes_ [20:27] it's a stretch! [20:27] omg that should be boobfarmed [20:27] rofl [20:27] I have tiny hands..and it isnt a stretch for me [20:27] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.49.34.202) left irc: "Leaving" [20:27] omg it's the McD's sammich commercial man [20:28] heh [20:28] Action: rk4n3 take a note: "straterra - tiny hands" [20:28] noobfarm that [20:28] fer posterity [20:28] make another note [20:28] straterra can approve/deny noobfarm quotes [20:28] no one's been farming for a few weeks here [20:28] Quiznos: Why don't you noobfarm it if you think it's so hilarious? [20:28] i cant c&p [20:28] i feel lucky i have big gorilla hands [20:28] heh [20:29] straterra dont feel bad; i have small tomatos [20:29] lol [20:29] that's what she said [20:30] papajack (n=papajack@unaffiliated/papajack) left irc: "Leaving" [20:35] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:37] blackula_ (i=1000@97.81.105.128) left irc: Connection reset by peer [20:37] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-121-183.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:38] y0 slackers....How's everyone? [20:38] Portmapper2004 (n=Port@212.215.217.192) joined ##slackware. [20:38] yo MLanden [20:38] y0 MLanden, excellent, thanks. you? [20:39] goin' good fire|bird....just building abiword [20:39] nice [20:39] y0 diven [20:39] MLanden: I'm just working to get ad blocking going with chromium. [20:40] fire|bird: How's that going? [20:40] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [20:40] MLanden: going alright, I can use greasmonkey scripts and all with it. [20:41] sweet,fire|bird [20:41] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:41] Billtoo_ (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1176016729.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:42] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [20:42] MLanden: The click to install part isn't working, so I'm working on figuring out where I can put extensions so they get picked up. [20:43] wrestled with xfce4...found out it was loading conky twice...pushed X all the way to 80% idle [20:44] fire|bird: can't use the xpi's? not compatible? [20:44] Ephedrax_ (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-63-67.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:44] MLanden: well, I have one that will work with linux, it's just finding the right path to put it in. [20:45] firedix (n=firedix@host83.200-117-148.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:45] MLanden: http://www.adsweep.org/ [20:46] fire|bird: you mean like MOZ_PLUGIN etc. etc. ? [20:46] jimi_ (n=jimi@68.166.53.50) left irc: "Yo ho ho it's time to go!" [20:47] MLanden: Well, I'm not sure what chromium uses behind the scenes, but it can use AdSweep for adblocking, but it's not automatically installing it like I had read it should. [20:47] Ah ha, I think I got it. :D [20:47] fire|bird: could check out Arch's forums....might be something there recently thta might shed light on it [20:48] s/thta/that [20:51] \o/, ads are GONE [20:51] ~/.config/chromium/Default/User Scripts/ :D [20:51] sweet [20:51] brb [20:51] fire|bird: \o/ [20:51] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-121-183.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [20:53] That's much better with those gone. [20:56] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [20:56] blackula (i=1000@97.81.72.92) joined ##slackware. [20:59] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-121-183.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:59] wb MLanden [20:59] thanks,fire|bird [21:00] anahel (i=anahel@unaffiliated/anahel) left irc: [21:01] fire|bird: so how's chromium on the memory? [21:01] Kerio2004 (n=Port@212.215.217.192) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:02] MLanden: seems to be doing good. [21:02] sweet [21:02] Portmapper2004 (n=Port@212.215.217.192) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:02] MLanden: about 1.87% [21:02] going by conky [21:02] against how much base memory? [21:02] 1G [21:03] fwiw, FF is taking about 13% [21:03] sweet [21:03] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.233.168) joined ##slackware. [21:03] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:03] fidesratio (n=fidesrat@bender.elementalit.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:05] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [21:08] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [21:09] found a good classic rock station from Cincinnati that plays a good eclectic variety of music.. mms://wm13.spacialnet.com/ClassXHi [21:10] jhw_ (n=jhw@p548F5225.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:12] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-75-61-129-251.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:12] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:15] Bonix (n=Bonix@201.80.124.123) joined ##slackware. [21:15] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-140-156-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [21:15] fire|bird: how's it with flash? [21:16] MLanden: great. I haven't had any issues so far. [21:16] sweet...a contender...:P [21:16] http://images.google.com/images?q=monorail%20computer&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi [21:16] anyone have that computer? i did lol [21:17] http://www.armory.com/~vern/toys/Monorail.htm [21:17] sexy [21:18] john_dee (n=id@93.81.119.114) left irc: "link closed" [21:18] MLanden: yeah, definitely, it's really nice. [21:18] MLanden: and it's nice having each tab it's own process. :) [21:18] kool,fire|bird [21:18] Action: deco greate another browser to test my sites on [21:19] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [21:19] jhw (n=jhw@84.143.69.216) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [21:19] deco: speaking of that, I came across a site the other day where you just tell it where your page is and it tests it against several browsers [21:19] fire|bird: i know :P [21:19] fire|bird: you mean screenshots ? [21:20] jeev: Were the Monorail computer like the Compaq IA-1? [21:20] no idea, it was like an IMAC [21:20] just really thick [21:20] ;D [21:20] kiyoura_ (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:20] deco: I'm not sure what exactly it does. It starts with a "b" [21:20] nice,jeev [21:21] TV absolutly sucks tonite, nothing worth watching [21:21] Pig_Pen, peel a bunch of taters [21:21] kiyoura_ (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:21] dinner is over [21:21] fire|bird: i know of some that you give your url and choose what browsers and screen resolutions etc.. and you get some screenshots [21:21] just do em anyway [21:25] Pig_Pen: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/09/bank-sues-google/ [21:25] read the news instead [21:25] well, I'm gonna give you one better! [21:25] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [21:27] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86-42-188-245-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:27] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:29] hello [21:29] hi [21:29] y0 anavel [21:29] just wondering, why slackware is going (kinda) bleeding edge way ? [21:30] is it? [21:30] anavel: how so ? [21:30] After realizing what he’d done, the employee “tried to recall the e-mail without success.” [21:30] how do you try to recall the email [21:30] on video,audio anvel? [21:30] neonflux_ (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [21:30] jeev: gmail gives you a minute-ish grace period [21:30] well, like using beta stuff [21:30] usually [21:30] really? how [21:30] anavel: name an app [21:30] how do you recall it [21:31] deco: xz [21:31] and why did it have 1300+ different people's info when it was going to a singl customer [21:31] anavel: ...... [21:31] jeev: http://techpp.com/2009/03/20/gmail-now-supports-undo-send-feature/ [21:31] jeev: because obviously this employee was an idiot :) [21:31] ahh, if you send from gmail [21:32] so the email was sent from gmail too? jesus [21:32] anavel: try fedora or archlinux than you will know bleeding edge [21:32] that's what godling said above, "gmail" gives you a minute-ish grace period. :P [21:32] dru (n=drubicza@114.58.77.250) joined ##slackware. [21:32] wow,godling....a whole 5 seconds..:P [21:32] I assume it must have been from gmail, but there may be other mail providers that provide a window to 'recall' the email [21:32] Nick change: dru -> drubicza [21:32] MLanden: oh right, thought it was longer [21:32] I don't use the feature myself [21:32] If you're on dial-up, you wouldn't make that 5 second grace period. :P [21:32] so that's even worse, the bank is using gmail for email? that's a serious problem [21:33] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [21:33] also, i dunno who to side with, the recipient should delete them but then in the future.. people and other companies can purposely send an email and then get a court order [21:33] exchange lets you recall an email [21:33] nositelicense, i think that's the crash feature [21:33] lol [21:33] oh, and kde4 too. [21:33] nositelicense: oh? I didn't know that. [21:34] anavel: How is kde4 bleeding edge? [21:34] _bruno (n=bruno@187.41.79.135) left irc: [21:34] yup recall/replace as long as it has not been read ... but it is still there :) [21:34] if the bank wins then this opens the door for random companies to go phishing, even though it's an expensive process.. it could be used "strategeryically" [21:34] of course the only interface I have to exchange is the outlook web access interface which SUCKS BALLS. [21:35] nositelicense, isn't that if you send it to the person on the same excahnge server ? :) [21:35] if your exchange sends an email to my server, you aint recalling anything [21:35] jeev, yes [21:35] so why even bring it up, we know g00gl3 doesn't use exchange [21:35] or do they [21:35] :> [21:36] it's ok, bank employees are idiots anyway, they think they can recall anything [21:36] did not read back far enough i suppose [21:36] kleanchap_ (n=chatzill@p5DC300AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [21:36] nositelicense: it was still interesting [21:36] jeev: I would always side with the person whose rights are being infringed [21:36] godling, you see the Glenn Beck + Couric ? interview? [21:36] no [21:36] comhack (n=comhack@unaffiliated/comhack) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [21:36] lol watch it [21:37] she asks what did you mean by white america [21:37] or something like that, and he was perplexed [21:37] Glenn Beck is a moron. [21:37] i think he squeezed off a little piss.. [21:37] i dont think that bank will win their suit against google, its not google's fault that the bank sent that email, but it would be prudent for google to destroy the email to protect that bank account [21:37] yea i know he's a moron but conservatives love him i think [21:37] if it's not google's fault, why should they delete the email? [21:37] godling, in the email case, both people's rights are being infringed [21:37] the email sender and and the customers in the attachment [21:38] jeev: the bank? how? [21:38] i mean recipient [21:38] they'd have to offer that to all the other guys who have accidentally sent an email they didn't want [21:38] i mean, sure, maybe we could use the feature, but it's a feature request, not a demand for action [21:38] who are we to demand something of a company who is offering something free (email)? [21:38] as a showing of good faith [21:38] how many times must people be told not to send personal information over the internet? [21:38] one more time!!! [21:39] TwinReverb: at least once more, apparently [21:39] jinx [21:39] [21:39] i agree, i never do any banking online [21:39] Quiznos: no good, we didn't say the exact same thing :P [21:39] TwinReverb, you'd be SURPRISED the companies out there sending personal information through email [21:39] i bank online but only when the website is secure [21:39] which isn't often [21:39] TwinReverb a few months ago, i sent a RFI to a uni; a month later i got real spa,mail from the municipality tht the univ was located at. [21:40] eh [21:40] TwinReverb: wait wait.. huh? [21:40] the BIGGEST companies in the US do it. [21:40] i do have a checkbook register i use to keep my checking account balanced but there is no bank account number on it, not even the name of a bank [21:40] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:40] Dominian, ? [21:40] you do realize that any bank that offers transmission of personal information for banking purposes is required to use encryption right? [21:40] required? says who? [21:40] TwinReverb then i sent off a scathing administrative objection and demand to the skool to cease selling my private info and i reminded them that they didnt have permission to sell my info [21:40] i would think such a requirement is good but i didn't know there was such a requirement [21:40] Dominian, i have countless emails from citibank and wells fargo employees with my personal info in it [21:41] har (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:41] i have emails from my merchant services companies too with my application attached.. inside is my social. [21:41] yea but mine was paper spam. [21:41] Quiznos, could it have been a compromised email server? [21:41] jeev: I'm talking about their website [21:41] TwinReverb not electronic [21:41] ahh Dominian. [21:41] Action: Dominian doesn't remember saying anything about email [21:41] oh [21:41] hi jeev [21:41] sup Quiznos [21:41] oh "real" spam [21:41] sorry [21:41] it's saturday and i have a headache [21:41] jeev negative; why? [21:42] saturday, eh ? [21:42] or where? [21:42] it's after dundown [21:42] Dominian: that raises an interesting issue, though; my bank statements are delivered to me via an encrypted channel. [21:42] TwinReverb s'ok; but i havent heard from the skool since and i'm alittl concerned [21:42] Your bank sends you a "privacy" statement every quarter don't they? [21:42] anyone have any experience with administering a computer over ssh when the ISP is apprently trying to block that? [21:42] Dominian: so emailing account information to someone seems sort of counterproductive [21:43] Dominian, yes [21:43] read it [21:43] Dominian: no sir [21:43] if you get one.. read it [21:43] deco: xz-4.999.8beta-i486-1.tgz <--- isn't this beta ? [21:43] I've read it online [21:43] It should cover email transmissions as well if you receive information from y our bank [21:43] wait, are you talking to me or jeev? [21:43] still, i was only focusing on the user's end, i.e. my end: if it's not https and at least a decent key size and type, i don't log in [21:43] and i log in rarely anyways [21:43] anyone know a url to get a unrestricted debit card? [21:43] Dominian: ^^ [21:43] and usually not at a wifi hot spot either [21:43] godling: talking to whomever.. not sure at this point [21:43] hah [21:43] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-75-61-129-251.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:43] :) [21:43] Dominian: but yeah, the email thing is questionable [21:44] My banks never send personal information via email [21:44] it was probably someone's first day on the job [21:44] Only notification that my e-statement is ready [21:44] Hey Dominian, I never did get that e-mail yesterday, but I got the problem resolved. It was the password length giving the invalid parameter error. Thanks alot for the help. [21:44] fire|bird: no problem. [21:44] if my bank did that I would go down to the office and beat someone [21:44] _pinnen (i=pinnen@h-4-106.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [21:45] "glof" [21:45] godling, hell the feds would [21:45] flog" [21:45] no, beat [21:45] pummel with my fists [21:45] you should read our air foce instruction on privacy act data [21:45] screw flogging [21:45] two local robberies here today; one without face-covering [21:45] neonflux_ (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:45] screw flogging? kinky [21:45] lol [21:45] there's a list of what we cannot leave lying around [21:45] nositelicense: I would bring popcorn [21:45] bring the whip in to the modern era..with construction tools [21:45] lmao [21:45] that's usually a good place to start [21:46] screw flogging! bring back the cane and single tail! [21:46] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) joined ##slackware. [21:46] BP{k}++ [21:46] caning++ [21:46] voltagex (n=voltagex@123-243-213-146.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [21:46] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:46] and if caning don't work, canning: turn 'em into spam [21:46] hi, I've got a fairly broken slackware install - where can I find stdint.h? [21:46] mmm spam [21:47] if caning doesn't work .. you're doing it wrong. [21:47] DIW [21:47] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:47] seriously, if you get caned you probably won't forget it [21:47] kiyoura_ (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:47] voltagex, /usr/include/stdint.h ? [21:48] 99% of people who successfully committed suicide regretted it afterwards ... [21:48] remember that kid who got caned for spray-painting some cars in Singapore? [21:48] I am sure he remembers it too [21:48] TwinReverb: doesn't exist... [21:49] godling: yeah,Michael Fay [21:49] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [21:49] i remember [21:49] voltagex, wow [21:49] have fun finding that file [21:49] memory is a wonderful thing; we recall the event but not the pain. [21:50] it's a damn standard file, which package is it in?????? [21:50] I recall pain [21:50] godling: heh, wel lknowing the singapore cane .. I am damm sure he'll never forgets ;) [21:50] voltagex: I dont know???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? [21:50] voltagex what file? [21:50] Check at slackware.com/pb ffs [21:50] Quiznos: system is busted, I need stdint.h [21:50] voltagex, stdlib / libstd? don't know. to find out, grab the install media, uncompress the MANIFEST.bz2 and then grep that file [21:50] voltagex ok; and? [21:50] (or if you know how, which i don't, there's a grep option for searching within compressed files i think) [21:51] SLACKWARE.COM/PB [21:51] bzcat or something [21:51] thanks. [21:51] pinnen (i=pinnen@h-44-58.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:51] voltagex grep -l stdint /var/log/packages [21:51] that's an lower L [21:52] Action: TwinReverb hates going to work some times [21:52] <=would be looking around with MC [21:52] where's kenny? [21:52] dead [21:52] mc mc mc mc mc [21:52] heh [21:52] he's late to work [21:53] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC30DA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Connection timed out [21:53] nositelicense which mc are you usin? [21:53] he typo'd the command line to live [21:53] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [21:53] unsure polly old [21:53] not slac13's? [21:53] oh dear, it's meant to be in /usr/include [21:53] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [21:54] voltagex yep [21:54] and it's not [21:54] not since slackware 12 [21:54] want my copy? [21:54] nositelicense k [21:54] nah, I want to find out what's wrong with this system [21:54] k [21:54] thanks though [21:54] did that grep help? [21:54] yw [21:54] 0.2.10 [21:54] nositelicense no way [21:54] that's not a approved mc version string ;) [21:55] bzcat on MANIFEST.bz2 [21:55] must have typo'd hehe [21:55] people who bitch about their job can suck it [21:55] Aalinux (n=Aalinux@unaffiliated/aalinux) joined ##slackware. [21:55] at least they have one :P [21:55] yeha me and 750 are getting laid off at the moment [21:55] Is this command correct to install g++, slapt-get install g++ [21:56] did you try it? [21:56] no [21:56] its not [21:56] DONT USE SLAPT-GET [21:56] nositelicense: sorry to hear that [21:56] slapt-get --install g++ , i did thy this [21:56] straterra: what's wrong with slapt? [21:56] ignore him, he's be a hat-ah :) [21:56] its a peice of shit that isnt officially supported and has a history of breaking slackware [21:57] see? [21:57] Its as bad as aids [21:57] yup 8 yrs.. up side is vacation time :):):P [21:57] Reading Package Lists... Done [21:57] No such package: g++ [21:57] gcc-g++ [21:57] nositelicense: where do you work (if I might ask)? [21:57] I use slackpkg, it works properly [21:57] 21st century insurance [21:58] hitest: How do you use slackpkg to install g++ or other software? [21:58] Aalinux try gcc-g++ [21:58] nositelicense: you work in sales? [21:58] slackpkg install package-name [21:58] Aalinux: try slackpkg(8) [21:58] claims [21:58] erbngeek (n=erbngeek@c-98-227-71-205.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:58] oh that's gotta be fun ;P [21:58] indeed [21:58] hi fire|bird:) [21:58] hey hitest [21:58] :) [21:58] :) [21:58] good to see you, man [21:59] nositelicense: do you get to meet people, or are you a desk jockey? [21:59] hi hi [21:59] hi bird [21:59] hi [21:59] Action: godling flips the bird [21:59] hi Quiznos:) [21:59] hitest: how's it going? [21:59] godling, desk jockey [21:59] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-206-3.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [22:00] fire|bird: things are going well, ty:) I am well. you? [22:00] Action: nositelicense is buried in mail voice mail online mail physical mail ect [22:00] nositelicense: ugh. if you were a claims adjuster you might actually get to go meet interesting people. [22:00] hitest: excellent, thank you. :) [22:00] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [22:00] anyone knows how to configure the kind of applications to open different contents in kde 4? [22:00] reRip [22:00] nositelicense: or angry, volatile people ;) [22:01] straterra: your website says that content is forthcoming very soon, as of January 2009 [22:01] ;P [22:01] <=is a collector & hates evreyone [22:01] oh you're a collector? [22:01] collector of what? [22:01] Sure [22:01] then everyone hates you too. ;P [22:01] GPL software..no warranty..etc etc [22:01] like I wanna open flac files with xmms or audacious inside ark but it uses xine by default [22:01] ark in kde 4 sucks also [22:01] my site intro says that i'm `a collector of uniq and esoteric bits'' [22:01] well I get the monies back spent on fixing our insured's vehicles [22:01] slackpkg install pidgin , Looking for pidgin in package list. Please wait... DONE ,No packages match the pattern for install. Try:,/usr/sbin/slackpkg reinstall|upgrade ,What to do now? [22:01] that was a joke 'cause nobody likes collectors of anything [22:02] bahahaha [uninstalled] - glibc-2.9-i486-3 [22:02] no sht [22:02] I didn't want you to take offense :P [22:02] Aalinux: pidgin is ALREADY in slackware. :) [22:02] voltagex heh, wth did you do to your sys? [22:02] Aalinux: lol [22:02] already installed [22:02] Quiznos: custom install disc :P [22:02] <= get the deductible back for our insured's [22:02] pff [22:02] _Navi (n=root@189.183.103.201) joined ##slackware. [22:03] the Quiznos way is to NOT reboot!!! [22:03] ffs [22:03] ftw [22:03] Quiznos: I needed a disc that pulled packages off the net instead of from a CD [22:03] nositelicense: how many ulcers do you have? [22:03] lol [22:03] _pinnen (i=pinnen@h-4-106.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:03] ok [22:03] godling: your point? [22:03] fire|bird: Trying to upgrade it [22:03] _Navi (n=root@189.183.103.201) left ##slackware. [22:03] slackpkg upgrade-all [22:04] straterra: about your site? nothing. ;P [22:04] Aalinux: Then you don't use install. Read man slackpkg(8) as BP{k} already suggested. 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[22:06] Politics (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) returned to ##slackware. [22:06] jaskorpe (i=jaskorpe@knuth.ping.uio.no) returned to ##slackware. [22:06] Snewp (i=slacker@unaffiliated/snewp) returned to ##slackware. [22:06] alienBlurb (i=3351@connie.slackware.com) returned to ##slackware. [22:06] signal11 (i=esteban@gnv.quaddro.net) returned to ##slackware. [22:06] konus (n=konus_fn@ns1.noxis.org) returned to ##slackware. [22:06] Aalinux: http://www.slackpkg.org/documentation.html [22:06] OUCH [22:06] let's do it one more time ! :D [22:06] heh [22:06] Kamel (n=1@173.132.6.75) left irc: [22:07] Kamel (n=1@173-132-6-75.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [22:07] whoa [22:07] that's my server :( [22:07] I missed you guys! [22:07] godling., & how many do you have ??? [22:07] lol [22:08] back @ u [22:08] X_(#)...whoah [22:08] nositelicense: I think I might actually have one :/ [22:09] Action: nositelicense hopes not [22:09] dissociative_ (n=dissocia@190.71.42.53) joined ##slackware. [22:09] thank redhat for that netsplit, the admin up2date something by accident [22:10] hey I did like netware ... before [22:10] they had server clusters way before MS [22:11] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [22:11] I remember Netware. [22:12] what year was Slackware 7? [22:12] I used to go the some meetings on olympic/sautel in la but they died off [22:12] *released [22:12] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] lol, I feel old. [22:12] 1999/2000ish right? [22:13] hell I started on 8.0 [22:13] I have a flashlight on the desk to look in drawers and such now [22:13] if you were born before 1966 you really are old [22:13] dragon linux realy [22:13] a distro based on 8.0 [22:13] If i remoe all from /var/log/package/ , after that is it possible to know if a package is installed or not? [22:13] remove [22:13] .... [22:14] Dont do that [22:14] I swear you need to run ubuntu or something [22:14] pkginst is all I remember [22:14] RipVanWinkle: 43 is not old [22:14] that's not 43 [22:14] straterra: I agree, but we've all got to start somewhere :) [22:14] 43 is not young [22:15] yeah..ubuntu [22:15] wow my math is off [22:15] Aalinux: try ubuntu [22:15] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-63-83-200.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [22:15] ubuntu is easier than windows in some ways [22:15] straterra: voltagex: Why? [22:15] nositelicense, that's right.. easier to make fun of [22:16] RipVanWinkle: http://tinyurl.com/ktbggz #old [22:16] I want to use slackware. [22:16] Aalinux: because you are making bad decisions [22:16] xtor_ (n=extor@c-98-193-85-83.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:16] dont delete /var/log/packages [22:16] <=running kubuntu ATM [22:16] Aalinux: I think you will have an easier time [22:16] straterra: Doesn't it take much space? [22:16] no.. [22:16] Why would someone want to delete /var/log/packages? [22:16] ok this guy is a jokster [22:16] You're as young as the age of your last victim. [22:16] ??? [22:16] thats how your machine knows whats installed [22:17] i dont like using the "troll" word cause i think it's for confused people who have nothing else to call someone [22:17] Aalinux: if hard drive space is an issue, try XUbuntu [22:17] who is that godling [22:17] but....... [22:17] RipVanWinkle: the name is in the expanded url [22:17] me? [22:17] :P [22:17] Aalinux, how much space do you have ? [22:17] no nositelicense [22:17] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-sllatciqbmjsvubu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:18] jeev: you don't like the word because you've been called it. [22:18] RipVanWinkle: Larry King. [22:18] straterra: Ok, i will not delete, [22:18] A very long time ago [22:18] godling, yea.. i dont care? only lamers who have nothing else to say say it [22:18] TROLL! [22:18] but i thought very hard for an alternative, i guess i'm a lamer [22:18] Aalinux: what are you trying to do, anyway? [22:19] jeev: you can do better than that [22:19] dissociative__ (n=dissocia@190.28.180.231) joined ##slackware. [22:19] actually yea... i could call him a godling! it's as bad as a troll; it's a turd. [22:19] larry king? what he get arrested for? [22:19] Is there any way to know the size of a directory?I know df -h , but searching for a command to know the size of a directory. [22:19] Aalinux: du [22:19] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:19] uhm.. [22:19] du [22:20] voltagex: Thank you. [22:20] Aalinux: what are you trying to do, anyway? [22:20] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:20] RipVanWinkle: I'm not sure. [22:22] i am on a laptop without X, and was using links so i do not have a browser with an address bar [22:22] ah I see [22:22] lynx? [22:22] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:22] voltagex: Please stop this, i want to use slackware all the time , not ubuntu [22:22] RipVanWinkle G cmd is adrbar [22:22] [TWR] (n=twr@216.80-202-241.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [22:22] wtf? [22:22] [TWR] (n=twr@216.80-202-241.nextgentel.com) left ##slackware. [22:22] all I want to know is what you want to accomplish, so I can help you better. [22:23] voltagex: Are you using ubuntu now? [22:23] [TWR] (n=twr@216.80-202-241.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [22:23] yeah, but the g is for go, it does not show you the current address of the website you are on [22:23] Aalinux: slackware, ubuntu, debian [22:23] RipVanWinkle =? [22:23] voltagex: What's "wtf" ? [22:23] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-206-3.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:24] wtf is a script [22:24] Aalinux: what is your native language? [22:24] RipVanWinkle: apparently he was accused of grand larceny by a former business partner [22:24] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-185-146.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [22:24] RipVanWinkle: this is according to Wikipedia [22:24] godling who? [22:24] wazza [22:24] Quiznos: keep up with the thread :P [22:24] voltagex: Using ubuntu right now? [22:24] hi [22:24] godling crt was off [22:25] Aalinux: slackware is running in my virtual machine right now, and ubuntu on two servers. [22:25] crt? [22:25] [TWR] (n=twr@216.80-202-241.nextgentel.com) left ##slackware. [22:25] old skool [22:25] /lastlog RipVanWinkle :P [22:25] lamer [22:25] the tube in the monitor [22:25] tube in the box [22:25] in the monitor. [22:26] I know what a freaking CRT is. [22:26] the tube is the monitor [22:26] i know you do [22:26] no, the tube is in the internets [22:26] the "tube" is the tele-* for all * [22:26] Quiznos: Larry King [22:26] ew [22:26] is he still alive? [22:27] tundar and rain [22:27] Quiznos: according to wiki,yes [22:27] he feeds nightly on the essence of young children [22:27] ok; is that a daily update? :) [22:27] ew [22:27] he's still alive [22:27] dissociative__ (n=dissocia@190.28.180.231) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [22:27] I am beginning to like this channel [22:28] nositelicense yea, we're silly [22:28] kick mr quik [22:28] it took time to train them [22:28] s/silly/retarded/ [22:28] nositelicense shoulda bin here last night [22:28] nope... seen good info here too :P\ [22:29] the nick-switching too? it got quite... [22:29] I was all confussed [22:29] I thought u were all on LSD [22:29] LOL [22:29] nah, none of us had nick-protection on [22:30] 3 of us [22:30] LSD? yeah,think LSD was here...:P [22:30] YUP [22:30] I'm downloading pidgin from ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/slackware/slackware-12.2/patches/packages/pidgin-2.5.9-i486-1_slack12.2.tgz , after downloading pidgin , what's the command to install it? [22:30] paul424 (n=chatzill@91.207.68.2) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [22:31] Quiznos: http://bigbother.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/skeksis.jpg # Larry King without make-up [22:31] just saying fun plus good info most of the time. [22:31] ew [22:31] Action: Quiznos shudders [22:31] Aalinux: slackbook.org [22:31] Aalinux: instead, type slackpkg install pidgin [22:31] thats the command [22:31] Aalinux: what is your native language? [22:32] lol,godling.......Gelflings!! [22:32] one of my fave st:tng's; Data v. Dr. Moriarty [22:32] andarius (n=andarius@67.191.170.126) joined ##slackware. [22:32] dissociative_ (n=dissocia@190.71.42.53) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:32] greetings and salutations [22:32] hi [22:32] high [22:33] y0 andarius [22:33] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: "upgrade time" [22:34] i need to watch st:tos, the one with the ring that displayed history [22:34] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-29.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [22:34] which episode is that [22:34] 1930s earth [22:34] Quiznos: the one with the Librarians? [22:34] straterra: cd /home/usr/Desktop, slackpkg install pidgin , will it remove the older pidgin automatically and install the newer replacing the older? [22:34] no; kirk falls in love and the girl has to die [22:35] spock opens a locked safe box [22:35] no [22:35] makes a computer of bear skins and stone knives [22:35] Aalinux: read the page [22:35] Aalinux: yes [22:35] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:35] straterra: Reading. [22:35] Aalinux: there should be a version of www.slackbook.org for you if english is not your native language. [22:36] Quiznos: one with Joan Collins [22:36] McCoy injected with vast amounts of hallucinagenic [22:36] MLanden she was in another [22:36] anyone vote on http://www.project10tothe100.com/ ? [22:36] MLanden the "actor" who was dictator of a planet facing starvation [22:36] and ordered the killing of thousands [22:37] to save the rest [22:37] damn [22:37] funny how one mentions one hallucinogenic.... [22:37] heh [22:37] lookin' on memory -alpha [22:37] lol [22:37] all our yesterdays? [22:37] no [22:37] damn i cant remember [22:37] heh [22:37] http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/The_City_on_the_Edge_of_Forever_%28episode%29 [22:37] this is shocking [22:38] that's it [22:38] the city [22:38] that's my #1 fave [22:38] very much about relatinships [22:39] oh and V the series starts on ABC tv in November i think [22:39] new series [22:39] new bruentte [22:39] is luncheon meat edible if it was at room temperature then refrigerated again? [22:39] deps on how long [22:39] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [22:39] Quiznos: less enter key, please :P [22:40] tryin; stream of consciousness ;) [22:40] godling: also on how warm...:P [22:40] not cool to the touch [22:40] that could be 90F [22:40] it was a packet of Buddig sandwich meat [22:40] ya think [22:40] Quiznos: good one from ST:TOS is http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/What_Are_Little_Girls_Made_Of%3F_%28episode%29 with Ted Cassidy [22:40] oh those; i wouldnt eat them then [22:41] MLanden oh yea, that's in my top 10; Miri too; the courts martial episodes [22:41] mirrir, mirror also [22:41] advice from a sandwich...lol....yeah,we are on LSD [22:41] lol [22:41] i eat those buddigs but only fresh off its hook only [22:42] <=ready for sleepy time now [22:42] gn [22:42] night Quiznos l [22:43] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-185-146.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:43] bai [22:43] nositelicense: later [22:43] godling you could heat up the buddig for a sammich [22:43] L8 bro [22:43] Quiznos: http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Amok_Time [22:43] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-137-105.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:43] oh yea; top 10 [22:44] even if there's 20 episodes [22:44] lol [22:44] yeah,Quiznos...that is a good episode...Kim Darby...liked her in that movie with John Cusack...Better Off Dead [22:44] I think everyone who likes Star Trek likes that episode. [22:44] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:44] MLanden heh oh yea, kim [22:44] nods godling [22:44] WTF ...... a top ten ??? [22:44] where? [22:45] Action: nositelicense sleeps once more [22:45] nositelicense (n=nositeli@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:45] and the girl from Menagerie, dressed up in green in the cave; that look she gives the capt [22:45] she looks so tall in that scene [22:46] statuesque; like Tyra [22:46] or umm, not Jennifer Lopez, but the other singer [22:47] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-137-105.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:48] and the Ice Cream Man himself,Clint Howard as Balok....tranya...lol [22:48] lol [22:48] eya [22:48] "he is Dr. Jekyl to my Mr. Hyde [22:48] Jeffrey Combs [22:49] i smell a trivia list; let's see who's up for claiming someth [22:49] 1. in what episode did Mr. Spock gain his emotions? [22:49] pffft [22:50] [maleko] (n=[]@unaffiliated/maleko/x-198721) joined ##slackware. [22:50] 2. in what episode did McCoy get married? [22:50] (another fave of mine) [22:50] I don't keep that close track, Quiznos [22:50] then cheat :) [22:50] I just have some favorites. Jeffrey Combs is one of my favorite B movie actors of all time [22:50] 3. in what episode did Mr Scott fall in love? [22:51] nods [22:51] him and Bruce Campbell [22:51] Bruce was/is a good actor!!! [22:51] veritos (i=4c68f9a7@gateway/web/freenode/x-sbbgvtzrodqqucvo) joined ##slackware. [22:51] 4. in what episode did Uhura sing, kiss? [22:51] Do I need the 'lp' (parallel printing) kernel module for a USB printer on CUPS? [22:52] 5. in what episode did Kirk die? [22:52] veritos i think not [22:52] Quiznos: Might as well give it a shot, aye? [22:52] yea [22:52] usb isnt parallel [22:52] Action: veritos reboots [22:52] no veritos [22:52] 1. i'm guessing This Side Of Paradise...with the spores [22:52] I use a usb printer and don't use the lp module [22:52] MLanden yep [22:52] Hey, if I need to enable SCSI for USB mass storage support, then anything goes. [22:53] veritos (i=4c68f9a7@gateway/web/freenode/x-sbbgvtzrodqqucvo) left irc: Client Quit [22:53] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [22:53] idiot [22:53] heh [22:53] re bird [22:53] :P [22:53] fire|bird: Quiznos is trying turn everyone into a Trekker nerd. [22:53] heh [22:53] one so far [22:53] *trying to [22:53] well, ferret out who is already [22:53] lol [22:53] you fail godling ;) [22:54] godling: haha, well he won't turn me into one. :) [22:54] Quiznos: my ex-girlfriend was [22:54] 6. in what episode did Chekov reveal a love? [22:54] Quiznos: she was also into pokemon [22:54] one so far? who was that? [22:54] godling heh [22:54] MLanden [22:54] haha [22:54] voltagex: Have you done a mistake?http://pastebin.com/m5c53f171 , isn't installpkg? [22:54] I'll leave the rest of the questions for everyone else to answer [22:55] but i've known that for a while already [22:55] no one else knows [22:55] knows what? [22:55] MLanden `who mourns Adonis' [22:55] godling a treker [22:55] lol,Quiznos [22:56] Gene Rodenberry was a master at rewriting old tales to modern scifi moral plays [22:56] phew, finally got this freaking Broadcom 4318 [Airforce One 54g] to work on this friend's laptop [22:56] yay [22:56] awesome [22:56] slackmagic: awesome! what'd you win? [22:57] a few grey hair [22:57] heh [22:57] i'm looking forward to the new V series [22:57] should be cool,Quiznos [22:57] we'll see [22:57] i reserve judgement [22:58] there are no other scifi shows afaik on the main broadcast channels [22:59] well; maybe there are but i dont count them as genuinely scifi-ish [22:59] gotta slump through the fall lineup I reckon [22:59] flash forward is one [22:59] nods [22:59] well; maybe i would retract that [23:00] scifi is such a wide and varied genre [23:00] Quiznos: did you care much for Chuck? [23:00] Billtoo_ (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1176016729.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [23:00] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:00] MLanden yea, i enjoyed that [23:01] itll be run soon [23:01] set to come back in the spring season [23:01] Bonix (n=Bonix@201.80.124.123) left irc: "leaving" [23:01] yea [23:02] anyone use the toast pkg mgr? [23:03] any good? [23:03] once it works, yea [23:03] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-29.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [23:04] but it's missing some feawtures i'd like [23:04] like better control over te sub dirtrees it makes [23:04] and fewer ln's made [23:04] it sucks up ln's like no tomorrow [23:04] ln inodes [23:05] i'd also like an external url file to be used instead of the urls being internal to the script (perl code) [23:05] and a verbosity opt or -quiet [23:05] it's quite verbose [23:06] package.tar.gz , is it possible to run installpkg package.tar.gz or, installpkg only supports package.tgz ? [23:06] that would be better...'specially when the main site goes go down...you can redirect to mirrors without having to hack the codes [23:06] just rename the file [23:07] MLanden toast chks a few sites for names [23:07] freshmeat, gnu etal [23:07] Quiznos: ok [23:07] Aalinux (n=Aalinux@unaffiliated/aalinux) left ##slackware. [23:07] nositelicense (n=nositeli@67.49.45.203) joined ##slackware. [23:08] mmm lag.... [23:08] renaming a tar.gz to tgz and then hoping that it will install properly .. is just plain silly. [23:08] do what works [23:08] [maleko] (n=[]@unaffiliated/maleko/x-198721) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [23:08] .... [23:09] the slack sys is not really dependent on the filename; a tar.gz can be renamed and the internal content still be properly handled [23:09] [maleko] (n=[]@ALille-157-1-98-6.w92-131.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [23:09] .... [23:10] apart from the fact that in about 99.9999% of the cases .. a tar.gz is a source file not a slackware.package [23:10] sure [23:11] well, don't we all have to compile sorce ? [23:12] MLanden the author uses his toast mgr to build his own dist. [23:12] nositelicense not always [23:12] Quiznos: which distro? [23:12] MLanden toast is in that genre of stow-usr/local src mangement (can handle bins too) [23:12] private dist i guess [23:12] with slackware it's been my experiance [23:13] Aalinux (n=Aalinux@unaffiliated/aalinux) joined ##slackware. [23:13] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:13] Quiznos: i see [23:13] i have my own stow-style in local/ [23:14] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [23:15] Bah! really time for bed now [23:15] gn [23:15] again [23:15] L8 all [23:15] nositelicense (n=nositeli@67.49.45.203) left irc: "Leaving" [23:15] MLanden tmz news on Sophia Loren in Italy [23:16] Quiznos: orly? [23:16] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [23:16] greetings mancha, you should have seen the chaos that ensued after your math problem. :P [23:16] yea; vid; she looks good; and they showed a photo from the 60s; no visual facial change [23:16] fire, hah! i might have slipped out just in time then [23:17] indeed you did. :P [23:17] liked her in Grumpier Old Men [23:18] yea [23:18] the italian actress aka sex symbol? [23:18] yep [23:19] Raquel Welch contemporary [23:21] brb [23:21] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-121-183.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [23:22] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-121-183.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:22] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.233.168) left irc: "Leaving." [23:22] the more time i spend here setting up these 2 laptops, the more I'm starting to like xfce now [23:22] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-121-183.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [23:22] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-121-183.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:22] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:23] blackorca (n=blackorc@174-152-34-93.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [23:23] upon reflection I think corporal punishment may not be the best form of punishment. [23:23] wow; there's an underground refugee city under Vegas [23:24] slackmagic: xfce is REALLY nice, I've been using it for about a week, coming from kde4, and I'm liking it alot. [23:24] Action: Dominian gags [23:25] Action: BP{k} slaps Dominian [23:25] slackmagic: How's it going? [23:25] http://img19.imageshack.us/i/slack13hppavze2000toshi.jpg/ these 2 lappies aren't that new, so xfce should be just perfect for the owners when I'm done setting up the systems. [23:25] there's people living under NYC too in the train tunnels [23:26] fire|bird: hopefully I can get it(xfce4) to play nice with my older Intel [23:26] slackmagic: zomg .. geekpr0nz ;) [23:26] MLanden: yeah, xfce is pretty good with older stuff [23:26] fire|bird: doing alright over here, spending more time again with my systems, i've been slacking for a long time :D [23:26] okays, time to upgrade this machine from slamd64 12.1 to slackware64 :) [23:26] spook: good luck :) [23:26] BP{k}: hehe [23:26] BP{k}: not a direct upgrade, just a backup and reinstall [23:26] i gotta move /home to a new part [23:27] slackmagic: haha, good old mouse wallpaper. :P [23:27] slackmagic, what kind of keyboard is that? [23:27] it hurt to have to shut it down to bring it home. it had 212day uptime [23:27] slackmagic, brand* [23:27] spook: ah fair enough. I think Dominian had a blog post on upgrading from slamd64->slackware64 [23:27] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:27] fire|bird: yeah I was busy setting up all the apps, that I haven't had time yet to make it all looks nice and neat for 'em [23:28] BP{k}: yeah but that slamd64 12.2 :) [23:28] blackorca: Logitech Illuminated. [23:28] spook: what's the diffrence? [23:28] :P [23:28] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [23:28] slackmagic: interfacelift has some really nice wallpaper. [23:28] fire|bird, ah, nifty [23:28] hi o/ [23:28] hi [23:28] i also want to change the way the partitions are set up, so i plan to completely back it up and start from scratch [23:28] spook: hmm, good question. I think so. It was back in May he attempted: "http://slackadelic.com/2009/05/27/slamd64-to-slackware64-upgrade/" [23:29] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-121-183.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [23:29] blackorca: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Illuminated-Ultrathin-Keyboard-Backlighting/dp/B001F51G16 [23:29] BP{k}: i know the post, i read it when i first planned this upgrade :) [23:29] Yeah.. i think that posts gets a lot of hits anymore [23:29] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:30] spook: then again .. Dominian wrote it. ;) [23:30] shaddup [23:30] Action: Dominian slaps BP{k} [23:30] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-121-183.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:30] wb MLanden [23:30] been planning this for 2 months now, well versed and read up on what i'm doing :) [23:30] thanks,fire|bird [23:30] Dominian: hahaha [23:31] slackmagic: i have that KB and like it wuite a bit :) [23:31] and if properly backed up, you can always go back [23:31] s/wuite/quite/ [23:32] spook: edman007 did that not that long ago and it went well. [23:32] andarius: yeah it's an awesome keyboard! You should see my "assembled" keyboard cover for it! rofl [23:32] bah, my daskeyboard > * ;) [23:32] fire|bird: yes i know :) [23:32] ok :) [23:32] Action: andarius turns up the light is his kb and points :P [23:33] BP{k}: lol, that was the other keyboard I thought of getting, but logitech will do for me right now [23:33] slackmagic: well I have to admit, that daskeyboards are expensive. It's good I could blackmail^wconvince my parents of buying me one ;) [23:38] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:39] talso (n=talso@S01060030542b92b7.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:39] talso (n=talso@S01060030542b92b7.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:40] i'm hungry [23:40] fo0d you. [23:41] Conan says ``beer for dogs'' [23:41] i've probably mentioned this before, but bitlbee is super duper awesome [23:42] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.82.254) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:43] BP{k} heh ^W [23:43] killertcell (n=meowmix@66.30.169.37) joined ##slackware. [23:43] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@66.30.169.37' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [23:43] killertcell kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Error: minimum IQ level for channel entry not met. [23:43] roflmao [23:43] lol [23:43] he's a pest in linux atm lol [23:43] hmm?!? [23:44] killertcell [23:44] Aalinux (n=Aalinux@unaffiliated/aalinux) left ##slackware. [23:44] those damned t cells [23:44] ahhh! [23:44] Dominian [23:45] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86-42-174-162-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [23:45] bbiaf [23:46] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:48] eh? [23:48] have you cats seen this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc [23:48] not related to slackware [23:48] Dominian: evening [23:49] alisonken1home: morning [23:49] er.. evening [23:49] :) [23:49] at least I don't go to work tonight [23:50] sweet [23:50] alisonken1home: Finally got bacula running here at home [23:50] cool [23:50] hows it looking [23:50] working good [23:51] even better [23:51] pretty cool,godling [23:51] kejen (n=brian@67.202.107.232) joined ##slackware. [23:52] hey, are there any dns experts here. Have 2 questions that I am trying to get a clear answer on [23:52] just ask [23:52] ok, 1) when there are several nameservers listed for a domain..which one gets picked? [23:52] its randomized [23:52] the 1st, random, or does it ask all and take the 1st response? [23:53] Usually goes in order.. depends on how its configured though [23:53] It queries for the NS records.. which ever it sees first it will query.. and fall back to the next and then the next and so on [23:53] and cache..does the whole zone get cached...or only the record needed? [23:53] record [23:54] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:54] thank you Dominian [23:54] Hey mfillpot [23:54] yo fire|bird [23:54] I am almost done with my repartitioning [23:54] godling kinda like Sagen meets T.Pain [23:55] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-140-156-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:56] not really :P [23:56] Nick change: snL20 -> Badlaa [23:56] Nick change: Badlaa -> snL20 [23:58] I mean, I don't think so. [23:58] Action: hitest is developing a buzz.....red wine is a good thing:) [23:58] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:59] lol [23:59] did anyone walk compgenius999 through his issues yesterday? [23:59] e [23:59] hitest: balmer peak approach? [00:00] --- Sat Sep 26 2009