[00:00] for controlling pc-based playback/recording while playing guitar standing up [00:00] O [00:00] nvmthen [00:00] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.25.20) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:00] haha sounds busy [00:00] got a speech synth, but don't actually need one :) [00:00] will a wurlitzer organ do? [00:00] well, sitting in a chair in front of the computer, trying to play guitar, leads to problems [00:00] it has pedels [00:00] Urchlay: stopper? check instructable.org(sp) or make.com..bound to be something there [00:01] have to stretch arms pretty far to reach keyboard/mouse [00:01] and keep banging the guitar against the desk [00:01] and/or getting its cord twisted up [00:01] yah thats no good [00:02] Urchlay, all kidding aside, you can get a freestanding organ footpedal thing [00:02] shonudo: that shows up as what, a midi device? [00:02] yup [00:02] might be able to somehow make that work [00:03] though I suspect I'll have a hard time finding a regular media playback app that supports midi control directly (will end up having to convert midi events to fake X keystrokes or something) [00:03] hmmm i dunno what to build [00:03] just set the registers to like 1 and 0...full pedal down 1...full pedal up 0 [00:04] Action: Motoko-chan has e-mailed Pat a few times in the past. [00:04] He's always responded quickly enough. [00:04] for learning songs, the setup could be... one pedal for rewind, one for fast-forward, one for pause, and one analog pedal for speed control (easier to work out fast guitar licks if you can slow 'em down) [00:05] maybe the analog pedal could be replaced with 2 digital ones ("faster" and "slower") [00:05] I'd be surprised if someone didn't make some kind of RS232 or USB foot-pedal device. [00:05] then again, there are so many guitar gizmos (delay, wah-wah pedels, phase shifters) i'm not sure you couldn't get those to do specific functions for you [00:06] poopship (~poopship@209.162.43.209) joined ##slackware. [00:06] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:06] you may have those lying around already [00:06] lot of those multi-effects units, you can't really just use them as midi controllers (the cheapo one I own, can't do that) [00:06] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.252.73) joined ##slackware. [00:06] ok back on slackware to test the same torrents [00:06] all my other effects are simple stomp boxes (no way to interface to PC, except audio through the sound card) [00:07] poopship (~poopship@209.162.43.209) left irc: Client Quit [00:07] however... I have a storage unit full of old parts, including some working PC keyboards and non-working stomp boxes [00:07] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:08] maybe frankenstein them together, so stepping on this footswitch here presses A, and the next one presses S, etc. [00:08] you know, you could rip up a keyboard (i mean really rip it up) and turn it into a foot-pedal thing [00:08] you need what, 5 functions tops? [00:08] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) left irc: Quit: changing servers [00:08] about that, yeah [00:09] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [00:09] Wow guys. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833339111 [00:09] it'd basically be the same thing as emulator people use to interface arcade controls [00:09] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:09] only the switches would all be footswitches instead [00:09] you start with connectivity, and just make up the interface [00:10] who cares what happens to an old keyboard [00:10] exactly [00:10] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:10] and you're out all of $10 [00:10] less than that [00:11] guarantee a freestanding organ pedel system will cost you 20x that much [00:11] used [00:11] and busted up [00:11] lot of my old junk, I got paid to haul it out of some office building [00:11] and to me, any computer keyboard that isn't an IBM model M, is expendable :) [00:12] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) joined ##slackware. [00:12] lol, nice [00:12] wonder if hackaday.com got some leads,Urchlay? [00:12] Urchlay, they still make the M-series. [00:12] Well, basically. [00:13] Urchlay, i saw some guitarist using the organ thingy, maybe i'll remember who [00:13] MLanden: actually don't really need instructions for the keyboard part of it.. the hard part would be making the footswitches (though I might have enough old broken pedals that I could just use the footswitch parts of those) [00:13] they were using it to play bass and to play chords (like a keyboard) [00:13] Action: Motoko-chan needs to remember to pick up the guitar again [00:14] Alex Lifeson and Geddy Lee, from Rush, are both known to do that from time to time [00:14] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-116.fpscc.den.wayport.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:14] Motoko-chan: don't just pick it up, actually play it :) [00:14] tuvok302 (Waffles@clgrtnt2-port-92.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:15] hey, anyone know where can i get the old MAKEDEV script where it creates the whole node for /dev ? [00:15] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-111.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:16] Urchlay, pat matheney (sp?) [00:16] Pat Metheny [00:16] synclavier synthesizer [00:17] last i checked, he was working on a totally computerized "one-man-band" thing [00:17] yeah, i don't really get it [00:17] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-116.fpscc.den.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [00:17] but i don't get his experiments [00:17] Skywise, thanks, i was at a loss on the spelling [00:17] yeah, it's different, to be sure [00:17] he's my favorite artist [00:18] I remember he did the music to one of the first lucas arts games back in the 80s (Ball Blazer) [00:18] forgot 'bout that tidbit...thanks,Urchlay [00:18] shonudo: one man band http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1941725100819420671# [00:19] lee555J5 (lee555J5@71-91-74-243.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) left ##slackware. [00:19] if you load up the game and let it sit at the title screen, it'll play quite a bit of improvised-sounding leads (it's all canned, but it seems to semi-randomly pick the order it plays them in) [00:20] pupit: lol... pixar -- or, all the cool things you can do with blender once you figure out htf to use it [00:20] shonudo: haha [00:20] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:21] Urchlay ever care much for Glenn Hughes?...been listening to some of him when he was in Trapeze(pre-DP) [00:22] anavel, http://sprunge.us/ARPP [00:22] gm152 (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:22] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) left irc: Quit: http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop. [00:23] thanks trhodes :) [00:23] yw :) [00:24] spiraliz (~spiraliz@72.81-167-30.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [00:25] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[00:44] ill check it out ty [00:44] heh, nope, ut all others are in there [00:44] iseepackets (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:44] found the site :) [00:44] s/ut/but [00:45] chance22 (~chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:45] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:45] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.120.181.108) joined ##slackware. [00:45] opera. two decades ago it was only a place to go to.. [00:46] haha i actually like it....its been treating me well here and FF had some mem issue in windows dont know if its the same in slackware [00:46] pupit: yes, but the phantom chased everyone away ;) [00:47] hahah [00:47] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:47] okay, totally off topic, but TCM is airing a 1929 indian silent film "A Throw of the Dice" and it looks like it's worth a watch [00:47] hahah [00:48] BP{k}: good one :) [00:48] ROKO__ (~ROKO__@h4x0r.gentoo.ltd.pl) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [00:49] ROKO__ (~ROKO__@h4x0r.gentoo.ltd.pl) joined ##slackware. [00:49] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-185-178.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: bbiab [00:49] lee555J5 (~irchon@71-91-74-243.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. 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[01:08] popl, I used to. [01:08] With ipkungfu, a while back. [01:08] riza: what was your impression? [01:08] DallaRosa (1000@EM114-51-128-109.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:08] Pretty useful really. [01:09] my logging solution right now is hackish at best (I just dump dropped packet info to /var/log/debug). [01:09] netfilter uses ulogd in their documentations. [01:09] Operated (~Operator@92.124.24.63) joined ##slackware. [01:09] I'm actually just reading about that now. [01:10] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [01:10] :) [01:10] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.252.73) joined ##slackware. [01:10] Right now I am trying to keep my complicated life simple so I just use rc.firewall and.. that's it. Set and forget. [01:11] I'm too paranoid for that, I'm afraid. I will freak out if I don't know whta's going on. [01:11] Hm, why paranoid? [01:12] I nearly had a heart attack when I typed who yesterday and saw that nobody was logged in. :/ [01:12] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:12] Nobody as in "nobody"? [01:13] no, as in utmp didn't show anyone logged in at all [01:13] So do what I would do if I had money. Keep all your private stuff on an offline computer. [01:13] I just started using slim as a login manager and it doesn't register sessions by default [01:13] you have to set it up in the configuration file [01:13] Oh. [01:13] complicated imo. [01:13] yeah, it's a laugh riiot [01:13] *riot [01:14] riza: yeah, I don't see why it's not on by default [01:14] but it sure beats installing gnome or kde just to have a login manager [01:14] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.100.185.135) joined ##slackware. [01:15] Psh full install, I leave as is. [01:15] I have like, 5tb or so of space, I can spare a few gb for KDE if it ever wanted that much. 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[02:06] \o/ [02:07] o// [02:07] \\o [02:07] = o \\ [02:08] Apple //e [02:08] Yay! [02:08] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [02:09] Everyone wants to reimplement classic Apple hardware all of a sudden. [02:09] it had a classic design [02:09] mockingboards were fun [02:10] spiraliz (~spiraliz@72.81-167-30.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [02:10] Franklin FTW [02:10] Anyone here think they could reimplement a modern PC from constituent chips and components in a post-apocalyptic scenario? [02:11] depends - how much room do I have to play with? [02:11] How much room you need? [02:11] also, in post-apocolyptical areas, the problem will be the mfgr of the chips [02:11] CathyInBlue: Are you planning an apocalypse? :P [02:11] Always [02:11] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [02:12] Assume you stumbled upon a mobo manufacturer, but there was no power to run the machines, but you had all the components. [02:12] Action: trhodes wonders if a modern PC would matter much in that scenario :P [02:13] solar..wind...if low wattage..hand-cranks [02:13] trhodes: my thoughts too [02:13] *gasp* no internet! [02:14] unless you needed one for your Vault [02:14] Maybe you had large hard drive you knew to be pristine, and there was a large storehouse of books on it that would help you survive the wastelands. [02:14] homebrew cpu was one guy's attempt at building a computer from scratch; it's a neat website [02:15] Would actually be better if you could stumble upon a bunch of Kindles and Nooks with pristine batteries and then download the harddrive onto all of them. [02:15] http://www.magic-1.org/ is the homebrew computer in question [02:16] trhodes: thanks, that is pretty neat [02:16] CCSakura (~chatzilla@ip68-226-11-168.ga.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:16] sure thing, thanks for googling it :P [02:18] lol [02:18] Operated (~Operator@92.124.24.63) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:19] konbonwa soshite ohiyo! Good Morning America :P [02:19] question would be can Kindles and Nooks be frankensteined like pda's for multi-purpose...given the scenario [02:19] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.72) joined ##slackware. [02:19] Operated (~Operator@92.124.24.68) joined ##slackware. [02:20] I've never had access to a Kindle or else I would have cracked it open. [02:20] I'm thinking in terms of making the information on the hard drives accessible to the most number of people, getting the info mobile, and in terms of power efficiency. [02:20] You can reboot a Kindle into a version of Linux. [02:20] ne, oyasuminasi! [02:20] there's a neat project called optar that stores data just printed out [02:20] CCSakura (~chatzilla@ip68-226-11-168.ga.at.cox.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716] [02:21] I've heard of people modding their Kindles [02:21] In fact, the Kindle OS is booted from an internal SD card and is itself a version of Linux. [02:21] Or was that the Nook? [02:21] It's late and my brain isn't working straight. [02:21] either would be interesting [02:22] a *nix kindle would be kind of cool [02:22] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-167-210.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:22] As long as it was e-paper and sipped power from the batteries, I wouldn't care after the bombs fall. [02:23] i'm totally ignorant about kindles -- what powers them? [02:23] http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/25/afghanistan-civilian-deaths-rules-engagement [02:24] Actually, if I had an unlimited electricity budget after the fall of civilization, I'd be putting it toward projected energy weapons. [02:24] did i miss something? [02:24] is it 2012 already? [02:25] lol.....good question,shonudo [02:25] jgeboski1 (438ea115@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.142.161.21) joined ##slackware. [02:25] shonudo: Kindles are powered by the essence of their users. [02:25] starbucks? [02:25] Each Kindle has a fragment of the Dark Crystal in it. [02:26] Nick change: jgeboski_ -> jgeboski [02:26] The essence that is not used to power the Kindle is channeled back to Amazon HQ where it is collected and used by Jeff Bezos to extend his mortality. [02:26] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:26] Nooks are powered by unobtainium. [02:26] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-167-210.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:26] Would a Nook user be referred to as a Nookie? [02:27] heh [02:27] No. That is what a Nook user does with his or her Nook. [02:27] they will be after tonight, popl [02:27] ^_^ [02:27] hehe [02:27] iseepackets (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:28] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-13.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:28] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:28] iseepackets (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [02:28] I won't be getting a Kindle or a Nook until they get much cheaper. [02:28] same here [02:28] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) joined ##slackware. [02:29] did you note the price drop after the introduction of the iPad? [02:29] jgeboski1 (438ea115@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.142.161.21) left irc: Client Quit [02:29] no, I haven't been keeping an eye on it really [02:29] have you seen that social "magazine" for the iPad? [02:29] no, not yet [02:29] it collects all your social media into a magazine-like format [02:29] apple [02:29] what a hoot [02:30] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjU0K8QPhs [02:30] riza, http://omf.gd/ax7 [02:30] "iPad from Mad TV" [02:30] so in my case, that would be a blank magazine cover with an irc client on the first page [02:31] alisonken1lap: that's not right [02:31] (first page also being the last page of the magazine) [02:31] powtrix, :( I was a polsci student and I must say, this made me very, very sad. [02:31] All this. [02:32] I made lulzbrigade.com for this purpose but right now all I am doing is crying because I am seeing so many pictures of innocent civies dead. [02:32] alisonken1lap: MadTV can predict the future. [02:32] ;P [02:32] :) [02:32] shonudo: lol....kinda like that preacher guy in Johnny Mnemonic [02:32] "Built-in vaginal firewall included for free" [02:33] I have been reading that war diary [02:33] I was reading about Afghan National Police extorting Pakistani truck drivers [02:34] great bit [02:34] THere was a bus going toward US force, yet the stupid bus driver didn't stop, why? [02:34] nice clip, alisonken1lap [02:34] How stupid are you to not stop when the soldier is clearly telling you to stop? [02:35] riza: there are two scenarios I can think of and both are bad news for the bus driver [02:35] What are they? [02:35] well three if you account that the bus driver may be an insurgent [02:36] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:36] riza: 1. bus driver is already dead and the bus is just on a crash course, 2. bus driver is being forced at gun point [02:36] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-71-127-17-34.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:36] But that wasn't the case for all three, for this that I am reading. [02:36] If I'm reading this right, the bus driver basically thought this person was an idiot for waving his hands like an idiot. [02:37] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-167-210.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:37] soldier != traffic policeman. wtf stop? [02:37] I am thinking of this video I saw where a bus plowed towards a checkpoint [02:37] screw him [02:37] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4419, sources date: 20100519, built on: 2010-06-04 01:07:21 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [02:37] *plow [02:37] lol [02:37] Action: riza watches sahko eats lead. [02:38] I also saw the wikileaks video of that Apache pilot taking out an alleged insurgent [02:38] which ended up being a photographer [02:38] popl, sad eh ? [02:38] did you hear what the pilot said when they were taking the kid that was injured ? [02:38] What did he or she say? [02:38] I don't remember jeev [02:39] "shouldn't have come into a warzone" [02:39] or something like that [02:39] pffft [02:39] hey but it'sok, we're fighting for "our freedom" [02:39] they live in the warzone :P [02:39] that's exactly what i said [02:39] scary. I'm thinking like jeev [02:40] 1 lobotomy, please [02:40] :P [02:40] I just think a lot of these can be prevented. [02:41] It's too bad US don't believe in execution. [02:41] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [02:42] riza: your reasoning for why we're there is flawed, hence you know nothing :) [02:42] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.252.73) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [02:43] I think the political discussion might start pissing people off. [02:43] now, 10k cash to the first person who could insert 31337 coding capabilities, php, sql, c/c++ and anything else like the matrix, instant [02:44] jeev, now I know why they see you as an idiot. [02:44] riza, whoever sees me as an idiot could lick my testicular region. i really dont care [02:44] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.252.73) joined ##slackware. [02:47] wow, ulogd.pcap is freaking awesome [02:47] Action: popl is giddy [02:48] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-167-210.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:48] popl, yep. [02:48] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:51] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [02:51] zux1wrk (~zux@80.81.42.4) left irc: Read error: No route to host [02:53] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [02:53] hey guys [02:54] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: riza [02:55] I recently found out there was someone that has been modifying pcmanfm 0.5.2 and I got a hold of the src for it. There's something in the 'Help' - 'About' section, but I'm not really a coder so not sure. This is the file called 'about-dlg.ui' [02:55] http://pastebin.com/cuWkKCWM [02:55] #8 on pastebin lists the name BUT the version number 0.5.2 is being called from somewhere and I don't know where and that I want to change [02:56] iseepackets2 (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [02:56] not even looking at your pastebin right now, but, have you tried "fgrep -r 0.5.2 ." in the top level of the source directory? [02:56] iseepackets (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:58] ahh ok thanks [02:58] found the droids you were looking for? [02:59] I found the Droid I was looking for but unfortunately it was locked down by Motorola [02:59] :/ [03:00] Xgates: was updating the laptop I have LXDE on..turns out that I have pcmanfm 5.0 on it [03:00] looks like it's in the configure Urchlay ---> http://pastebin.com/Ay3M0r0q [03:00] MLanden: have you heard about PCManFM-Mod? [03:00] made a slackbuild for it [03:00] modified 0.5.2 :) [03:00] Xgates: configure scripts are generally built from configure.in and/or configure.ac [03:01] ok [03:01] if you want to change it "correctly" (such that upstream will accept your change), you'd change it there instead of editing the configure script itself [03:01] (usually you run "autoreconf" after editing configure.(in|ac), which will build you a new configure script) [03:01] Xgates: can give it a try and see if it'll build...just tackled wine,vlc and a dozen small apps on it [03:02] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-99-54.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:02] I built it works just fine [03:03] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:03] http://igurublog.wordpress.com/downloads/mod-pcmanfm/ [03:04] Xgates: got it..thanks [03:05] Nem0 (~Nemo@188.169.184.177) joined ##slackware. [03:05] JDif (~jdifool@mon75-3-82-67-194-134.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. 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[03:12] eh, I dunno what a shn header is supposed to look like [03:12] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:12] it's one of those giant rar archives with a bunch of shn files inside, and only one of them fails with mplayer (but the shorten utility itself does correctly process the file) [03:13] did you ask the mplayer guys? [03:13] well no, this happened like 10 seconds ago [03:13] pffft, and you haven't filed a bug report yet? [03:13] ;P [03:13] was really just making conversation (channel is dead tonite) [03:14] I'm playing with my new toy [03:14] which is what? [03:14] I just installed ulogd [03:14] it is awesome [03:14] ah, logging all those nastygrams people fire at you? [03:14] lol [03:15] ulogd logs into pcap format so I can use wireshark to look at it [03:15] :D [03:15] hey, that's a damn nice feature [03:16] you can also log to an sql db but I haven't tested that yet [03:16] not sure what I'd use the database for [03:16] iseepackets (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [03:16] but a neat idea anyway [03:17] yeah, maybe for statistics generation [03:17] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [03:17] iseepackets2 (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:17] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.252.73) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:17] I might use it just so I can mess with postgres [03:18] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.40.218) joined ##slackware. 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[03:31] hay guys :) i can't start unreal(IRC) it say : ./unreal: line 10: /home/nemo/Desktop/Unreal3.2.7/src/ircd: No such file or directory [03:31] I'm trying to hook up an HTC pro...on Ubuntu, it gave me another ethernet connection when I invoke ifconfig, but not in slackware [03:32] so does /home/nemo/Desktop/Unreal3.2.7/src/ircd exist? [03:33] what do I need to do to to get working on my Slackware system? [03:33] Urchlay, yes [03:33] run "file /home/nemo/Desktop/Unreal3.2.7/src/ircd", see what that says [03:33] Urchlay, * Loading IRCd configuration .. [03:33] [error] Couldn't open "unrealircd.conf": No s [03:33] [error] Could not load config file unrealircd [03:33] Channel flood from Nem0 -- kicking [03:33] [error] IRCd configuration failed to load [03:33] Nem0 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [03:34] Nem0 (~Nemo@188.169.184.177) joined ##slackware. [03:34] Urchlay, 1 sec [03:34] Operated (~Operator@92.124.24.68) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:34] eh, I meant to run file on it (to see if it was a valid executable), but apparently you just ran it, proving it's a valid exe anyway [03:34] anyway. Better create that config file it wants. [03:35] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-8-239.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:35] Urchlay, unrealircd.conf exist [03:36] apparently it's in the wrong place, or something [03:36] my Slackware looks like it's using kernel 2.6.24, does this version support an HTC? [03:38] Urchlay, yes and i create new unrealircd.conf file in /usr but it not working :( [03:40] archcezar (1000@ddw215.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:40] archcezar (1000@afpq39.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [03:40] iseepackets1 (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [03:40] elliot98: i see that it has a ARM 11....are you using slackware build for arm(i.e. armedslack) [03:40] iseepackets (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:41] MLanden: I need to connect the htc to my laptop [03:42] MLanden: and for some reason, when I connect the HTC through the USB, on Ubuntu, I am getting an IP address, on Slackware I am not [03:42] right now, I'm leaving the OS on the HTC alone [03:42] I am wondering if 2.6.24 is missing the driver to recognize the HTC [03:42] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.252.73) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:42] that's all [03:44] elliot98: ahh..sorry 'bout that..thought you wanted slack on it...yeah, you may need to update the kernel...which build of slackware do you have installed? [03:44] paissad_ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:44] has anyone found out why you cant install slackware on virtual software? [03:45] 'cause it doesn't exist [03:45] ? [03:45] explain? [03:45] shell-fu: l? "_on_ virtual software?" [03:45] alisonken1lap, on vbox and such. virtual software being software you can create virtual boxes in? [03:46] slackware works fine on qemu for me [03:46] several people here run slackware as a guest [03:46] and as host to other o/s's [03:46] MLanden: thanks, looks like I've got version kernel 2.6.24 [03:46] alisonken1lap, for some reason, it doens't work for me on on vbox for ubuntu. [03:46] how do I know which version of Slackware I've got? [03:46] where does it die at? [03:46] "cat /etc/slackware-version" [03:47] Operated (~Operator@92.124.16.35) joined ##slackware. [03:47] thanks, ok, it's 12.1.0 [03:47] how can I check if the HTC is supported by 12.1.0? [03:48] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [03:48] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.252.73) joined ##slackware. [03:49] elliot98: "grep -i htc /usr/share/pci.ids" [03:50] alisonken1lap: thanks, also is there like some online database that searches the current linux kernel code to find specific devices? [03:50] The htc is a phone like any other. My guess is that ubuntu has some "magic" to detect phones on usb or serial and setup a ip connection automatically, most likely over networkmanager [03:50] slack doesn't do that [03:51] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [03:51] networkmanager must be so bloated [03:52] I have never seen the source code though [03:52] pprkut: hmm, ok, but in dmesg of ubuntu, it does state adding another ethernet interface, but be as it may, what would be the method to get it running on slack? [03:53] hey, whoever was looking for the way they can find the slackware version of their OS, just type 'uname -a' if that ubuntu utility is in slackware. [03:53] ... [03:53] elliot98, look at my previous post to see how to find version. [03:53] how to install vncviewer on slackware ?... [03:53] ubunty utility? :D [03:53] elliot98: more than likely point-to-point and ip-forwarding [03:53] ? [03:54] surrounder, not ubuntu... but i run ubuntu, and I can use that utility in Ubuntu... could be gnu [03:54] shell-fu: that does not give you the slackware version at all [03:54] surrounder, let me check it out [03:54] help pleace [03:54] shell-fu: that only gives you what kernel is running - not the slackware version [03:54] shell-fu: slackware version is in /etc/slackware-version [03:54] (plain text file) [03:54] alisonken1lap, sheez It took me forever to find that utility in my notes for tomboy ... ahaha [03:55] elliot98: no idea, google is a good guess [03:55] alisonken1lap, no you're wrong... it prints all info [03:55] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:55] how to install vncviewer on slackware ? [03:55] shell-fu: no, it doesn't [03:55] shell-fu: uname is for kernel information - not for slackware version [03:55] elliot98: when I needed my phone as modem I used pppd [03:55] shell-fu: uname just prints kernel info [03:55] it has nothing to do with the distro [03:56] popl, i know... i'm jus thigh [03:56] obviously something [03:56] heh [03:56] popl, i smoke cannabis, mother fucker! [03:56] somebody wants a cookie [03:56] ??? [03:57] Nem0: use slackpkg if you have it installed [03:57] somebody wants brownies with that "special" flavor [03:57] Nem0: type slackpkg search vnc [03:57] seems my current kernel does have the id for the HTC, so there must be some application get it up and running [03:57] popl, ok thanks :) [03:57] Nem0: just type slackpkg and hit enter to get help on using slackpkg [03:58] popl, urbandictionary -- Another way of saying "I don't give a fuck" commonly used by middle school children and dumbass freshman. [03:58] acidtripper (~gon@190.19.203.187) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:58] popl, yes i know :) [03:58] Nem0: then why are you asking such a silly question? :P [03:58] popl, that def is for 'want a cookie?' [03:58] shell-fu: want a cookie? [03:58] iseepackets1 (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:58] popl, how old are you... didn't my def.... [03:58] you like ten man? [03:58] pprkut: pppd would need various configurations and dialup [03:59] iseepackets (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [03:59] popl, i think it's time for bed. [03:59] is there like a slackware server guide? or are they too lame for that? [03:59] popl, i could not think :D [03:59] elliot98: ubuntu would give you an ethx interface? [03:59] pprkut: on windows and ubuntu, it just gives me an ethernet port and ip address [03:59] shell-fu: basic slackware docs online as well as the slackware book that's on the install media [03:59] pprkut: yes, it's ethX [03:59] interesting [04:00] elliot98: Which ububtu? [04:00] the only thing is that my kernel may be need to be updated [04:00] alisonken1lap, my friend said the slackbook is useless... i'll give it a go though... w/e [04:00] paissad_ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [04:00] i don't have a life, so i'm reading something useless [04:00] to go with my useless life [04:01] jaunty [04:01] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-167-210.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [04:01] slackbook is basic slackware administration - if you want advanced administration, then look at sysadmin books or specific programs info pages [04:01] elliot98 [04:01] elliot98: maybe you are just not loading the required kernel module automatically [04:01] kernel version 2.6.28 [04:01] paissad_ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:01] alisonken1lap, alright i will... [04:01] but the slackware is using 2.6.24 [04:01] definitely [04:01] elliot98: can you compare the lsmod output of slack and ubuntu? maybe you can figure out what's missing [04:01] elliot98, you want to make your computer go really, really fast!??? [04:02] shell-fu: it helps to understand a lot of things, but it also depends on your previous knowledge [04:02] zux1wrk (~zux@80.81.42.4) joined ##slackware. [04:03] MLanden pprkut: looks like there is this rndis_host module that loads it [04:03] would that mean you need to install ndiswrapper? [04:04] what's the command to reinstall a package with the same name? i've recompiled php with postgresql support [04:04] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-73-182.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:04] zux1wrk: upgradepkg --reinstall blah.txz [04:04] installpkg --reinstall also should work [04:04] ok, thanks, couldn't remember, don't know why I thought it was installpkg --reinstall.... and that didn't work... [04:04] zux1wrk: I recommend adding a "tag" to the version number, your initials or maybe the word "local", so you'll know it's your own package [04:05] removepkg blah && installpkg blah.txz [04:05] ;P [04:05] alisonken1lap: man says installpkg doesn't have that switch [04:05] how will slackpkg understand it if there is a security patch for php? [04:06] zux1wrk: if there's an upgraded package in the repo [04:06] iseepackets2 (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. 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[04:07] MLanden pprkut : ok, looks like Ubuntu is giving the HTC device a different id than on Slackware [04:07] elliot98, if you want jaunty to be faster, elliot98, type in terminal 'do-release-upgrade' [04:07] zux1wrk: you could blacklist the package in /etc/slackpkg if you are 100% sure you won't forget to check for security patches yourself [04:07] you can blacklist the package from being upgraded [04:08] with a sudo, elliot98 [04:08] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.252.73) joined ##slackware. [04:08] php's security record being what it is, that's kind of a headache [04:08] ok, i'll try blacklisting and remembering... [04:08] you ahve to do that when you do multilib. it's a huge PITA [04:08] Morn [04:08] on Ubuntu, it gives 0a15, the proper pocketpc device, but in slack, it give 0303, a mass storage device [04:08] what gives? [04:08] elliot98, kernel versions? [04:08] Urchlay: I was surprised to find that PHP has more or less OK security [04:09] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:09] no one knows if Radeon KMS is safe to use in 34.1? [04:09] zux1wrk: on Ubuntu, 2.6.28, on slack 2.6.24 [04:09] elliot98: you need usbmodeswitch [04:09] or usb-modeswitch, however the hell it's punctuated [04:09] that's available for slack? [04:09] Urchlay: most of the exploits happen because PHP is too complicated for some people to write correct code with it. [04:09] aah, yes, if you are talking about those wifi devices... [04:09] elliot98: it is, in slack 13.1 [04:09] s/complicated/complex/ [04:09] Urchlay: usbmodeswitch has a slackpg [04:09] Urchlay: any backport? [04:09] "usb_modeswitch" turns out to be the correct spelling [04:10] yes, the 13.1 package worked just fine on 13.0, the one time I tried it [04:10] 2.6.24 seems older than slackware13.0 [04:10] as always, you try stuff like that at your own risk [04:10] Urchlay: I've got 12.1.0 [04:10] ah [04:10] elliot98, ever thought about an upgrade? [04:11] where can I get the slackpg for usb_modeswitch? [04:11] well, if I were wanting to install it on 12.1, I'd get the 13.1 source from the slackware ftp site or mirror, and try building a package that way [04:11] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:12] elliot98: try slackbuilds.org [04:12] it's almost guaranteed that the 13.1 package won't work on 12.1 (glibc's been upgraded if nothing else) [04:12] it's probably not in base slackware [04:12] it wasn't, in 12.1 [04:12] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-68-43.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:12] iseepackets2 (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:12] elliot98, ever thought about an upgrade? [04:13] iseepackets (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [04:13] zux1wrk: it crossed my mind, but not to get one device working [04:13] elliot98: another thing you can try [04:13] it's not "THAT" hard [04:14] if it's showing up as a cd-rom device, try ejecting it [04:14] e.g. eject /dev/scd0 (or /dev/sr0, whatever they appear as) [04:14] elliot98, is that an atheros 71**? [04:15] zux1wrk: um...it's an HTC innovation [04:15] well yes, you probably need the ath_htc driver [04:15] exact, model number [04:15] not sure [04:16] zux1wrk: and how do I get the ath_htc driver? [04:16] compat-wirless, but you'll still need to usb_modeswitch [04:17] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.254) joined ##slackware. [04:17] shell-fu (~shell-fu@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:17] eject works on a good chunk of those devices [04:17] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: Connection timed out [04:17] what's happening is, when you first plug in the device, it's pretending to be a cd-rom drive with a cd containing the windows driver [04:17] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc [04:18] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [04:18] on windows, the cd will autorun, install the driver, and then switch the device out of fake-cdrom-mode... the way it switches it, for most (not all) devices, is to send the eject command to the fake cd drive [04:21] i was fighting to get the AR9271 chip working recently, and got it. but it didn't need the modeswitch. AR7010 does need it. (We are talking about wifi cards, right?) [04:22] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.252.73) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [04:22] compat-wireless aims to always support kernel compatibility down to the last supported 2.6 stable kernel release as noted on kernel.org. Today that is the 2.6.27 [04:23] wait, what's it being compatible with? [04:23] Additional kernel compatibility may be done but it should not be something that is expected. Old kernels do not get updates so it is highly recommended you upgrade to at least the latest stable kernel. [04:24] so you might try it on 2.6.24 kernel, but as they state, it might not work [04:24] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-23-102.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:24] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.252.73) joined ##slackware. [04:24] you could also just upgrade kernel, now the whole distribution [04:25] so compat-wireless is what, the latest stable kernel wireless drivers, backported to older kernels? [04:25] no, it's the latest wifi drivers not yet supported by stable kernel [04:25] ah, ok [04:25] something like that [04:26] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [04:26] woh3 (~will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [04:27] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) left irc: Quit: http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop. [04:31] paissad (paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [04:31] iseepackets2 (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [04:31] iseepackets (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:32] paissad_ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [04:35] zux1wrk: ok, got the usb_switch, but doesn't seem to switch over...is there any way to see if it's the kernel version that is causing issue? [04:36] I wouldn't want to compile a whole kernel just to find out that's not the problem [04:37] hmm, don't know, i have never used usbmodeswitch [04:37] zux1wrk: it seems the rndis_host modules is not recognizing it [04:37] as a net device [04:38] well, what did lsusb say about it? (seems i missed that) [04:40] it states it as an HTC device [04:40] but rndis_host does not recognize it has a net device [04:41] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Timeout ( 0.0 Seconds ) [04:42] only thing to do is upgrade kernel, I guess [04:42] maybe that will sort things out [04:42] but that will probably mean an entire distro upgrade [04:42] :( [04:43] no, give me the id numbers [04:44] paste the line here [04:44] ok [04:44] on ubuntu is states 0bb4:0a15 [04:44] on linux, [04:44] woops, slack [04:44] is states, 0bb4:0303 [04:45] Nem0 (~Nemo@188.169.184.177) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:45] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [04:45] but in slack, it's weird, what happens is that initially, it's 0bb4:0a15, but the htd then switches mode [04:45] by itself [04:45] and then it is listed as 0bb4:0303 [04:48] o/ * [04:53] ALVAN (~galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [04:53] The shit [04:53] has hit [04:53] the fan. [04:53] Action: Zordrak 's company has just been bought. [04:54] that's usually not good [04:55] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB44E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:55] We'll just have to wait and see. [04:56] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [04:57] That's pretty much all you can do [04:59] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-173-241-164.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:01] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [05:01] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-178-53.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [05:02] Operated (~Operator@92.124.16.35) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:02] Zordrak: that's happened twice in the last 6 months at my place =P [05:03] Zordrak: the first was during my recruitment, so once they decided to hire me, i had to be reinterviewed by the new take over company =P [05:04] ouch [05:05] Just upgraded to 13.1 Now I get the following cmake error: "Did not find automoc4 (part of kdesupport)." compiling digikam, choqok. Does anyone know a solution? [05:05] Zordrak: you safe? [05:05] phrag: for nom [05:05] *now [05:05] not sure if im gonna stay or net [05:05] *not [05:05] Need just a little time to see how things pan out [05:06] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.40.218) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [05:11] iseepackets (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [05:11] iseepackets2 (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:19] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.73.184) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:20] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-167-210.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:21] merciful: do you have the automoc package installed? [05:25] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [05:25] hey guys [05:26] say would mencoder be the simplest way to join videos? [05:26] cat foo1.avi foo2.avi > foo.avi [05:27] mencoder -forceidx -oac copy -ovc copy bloodspell.avi.avi -o foo_final.avi [05:27] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.252.73) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:27] my bad on that last cmd: instead like this: [05:27] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-185-178.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Later,folks!! [05:27] mencoder -forceidx -oac copy -ovc copy foo.avi.avi -o foo_final.avi [05:28] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.252.73) joined ##slackware. [05:29] from what I remember, that only works if the two videos have the same video codec, frame size, framerate, audio codec, and maybe a couple other things [05:29] Xgates: try http://www.misterhowto.com/index.php?category=Computers&subcategory=Video&article=join_with_mencoder [05:30] Xgates: which happen to be the first link google gives you when you search for "mencoder join video" [05:30] Urchlay: hmm ok well I download like movies and lots of times they get split into cd1 & cd2 so I would think they are all the same, that's what I want to join.... [05:30] surrounder: that's what i just did. It's amazing what google can share ;) [05:31] Xgates: probably that will work then [05:32] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [05:32] from what I read it's done in two parts [05:32] cat foo1.avi foo2.avi > foo.avi [05:32] mencoder -forceidx -oac copy -ovc copy foo.avi -o foo_final.avi [05:33] pprkut: Just installed all slack 13.1. automoc4 is in /usr/bin [05:33] that just sounds wrong [05:33] from what I read the cat is to join and the second to work out any sync issues when joining [05:34] Xgates: did you read the link jgeboski posted to you ? [05:34] yeah [05:34] so where did you read about the 'cat' part ? [05:34] Xgates: according to google there is no need to cat them into one file at all. mencoder will handle that. [05:35] "There's no reason to cat the two files together before encoding because mencoder can handle that as well." [05:35] ok [05:35] merciful: are you trying to run the SlackBuilds or building from source? [05:35] so the output.avi is the name of the video I want? [05:35] Action: jgeboski sighs [05:36] yes [05:36] pprkut: both, slackbuild and from source. No difference. [05:37] merciful: and "which automoc4" returns you the path to automoc4? [05:38] pprkut: /usr/bin/automoc4 [05:38] than there'sno reason it shouldn't be found [05:38] pprkut: No, I know, but the error is there... [05:40] no idea. Sorry :/ [05:45] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [05:45] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:46] libsmbclient is in samba? [05:47] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.50.233) joined ##slackware. [05:47] TClayton (~tony@184.1.70.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:47] I don't get why mencoder would need samba [05:48] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [05:48] probably to read files from a shared directory, and probably it has a switch to disable that :) [05:50] TClayton (~tony@184.1.70.195) joined ##slackware. [05:50] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [05:50] well I'm trying to join a video: [05:50] mencoder -oac copy -ovc copy -idx -o ateam.avi twiz-ateamr5-cd1.avi twiz-ateamr5-cd2.avi [05:50] then it complained: [05:50] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:50] mencoder: error while loading shared libraries: libsmbclient.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [05:50] so can I use a switch to not use samba? [05:51] Xgates: so you don't have samba installed [05:51] heh, that's on compile time [05:51] no have no need for it [05:51] gbonvehi: no it's not Slack has it ;p [05:51] sheesh every distro has sambe hehe [05:51] I don't want to install this crap just to join a video [05:52] you can install/remove in a few seconds :) [05:52] so go recompile it [05:52] or yes, recompile mencoder [05:52] oh recompile mplayer ok [05:52] well hmm Pat might of compiled it against a lot of stuff [05:52] errrrrrr [05:54] mencoder is not on slack by default ;) [05:54] gbonvehi: it is [05:55] wow, i missed something in the upgrade then :/ [05:55] it's part of mplayer [05:56] i didn't know mplayer was now included, great [05:57] :) [05:57] that explains why now i've two mplayer packages -.- [05:57] (i upgraded from 12.1 a few days ago) [06:00] lol [06:05] Fenix-Dark (~scott@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [06:06] hi [06:06] hello Fenix-Dark [06:06] alienBOB: ping - privmsg? [06:07] i'm having a bit of a permissions issue with my samba share. i have 3 users with access to the networked share, one of them is the 'owner' of the directory and its contained files. all three users can access the files no problem, but only the owner has write access. how can i fix that? [06:07] i'll pastebin the relevent parts of my samba.conf [06:07] smb.conf* [06:08] Fenix-Dark: set umask to 002 and make sure all users are in the same group - then set group sticky bit on the directory tree [06:09] Fenix-Dark: are you talking access via samba or via local filesystem? [06:10] ananke, thats via samba. sorry, i was unclear [06:10] Fenix-Dark: then let's see your smb.conf [06:10] http://pastebin.org/420057 [06:10] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:11] scott is the owner, and thats the only account that has write access [06:11] create mask = 775 [06:12] sorry - 664 [06:12] directory mask = 775 [06:12] then put all three in the same group [06:13] alisonken1lap, my smb.conf has create mask = 0644, and direcotyr mask = 0755 [06:13] correct - I was posting a change to that [06:13] ok [06:13] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:14] and don't forget the group issue for the users [06:14] you happen to know of a good group guide? [06:15] make a group like "smb-write", add the users to that group, change group on the base directory to that group and set sticky bit for it [06:16] john_dee (~id@95-29-185-51.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [06:16] Fenix-Dark: here's a template for group shares i use: http://pastebin.org/420062 [06:16] DallaRosa (1000@EM114-51-79-100.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [06:18] ananke, ty, i'll take a look at what each of those options do so i can get a better idea of why i should use those settings [06:20] well I don't get this the slackbuild that is on Slackware.com doesn't have --enable-smb in it, so not sure how it was asking me for it, unless Pat compiled it different then the slackbuild [06:20] hmm [06:20] Xgates: maybe it's enabled by default and you should use --disable-smb [06:20] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [06:21] yeah was thinking that ;p [06:22] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [06:23] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-23-102.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [06:24] yy (~simey@unaffiliated/simey00irc) joined ##slackware. [06:26] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-23-102.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:28] ananke, so you have a text file named @confvideo with a list of the users? is it one user per line? and where is it located? [06:28] yy (~simey@unaffiliated/simey00irc) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [06:30] Action: Xgates digs through the configure options ----> --disable-ass [06:30] LOL [06:30] hahaha [06:31] DallaRosa (1000@EM114-51-79-100.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [06:32] yea it's really in there [06:36] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-70-252.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [06:38] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-143-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:38] morning; does anyone remember the ][+ dual text-graphic mode it had? [06:43] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:44] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Timeout ( 0.0 Seconds ) [06:49] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.72) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:59] i'm still having write permission issues, but it is not samba related. i have a folder called Public, owner is scott, group is smb-write. the other users (which are in the group smb-write) can read from that directory, but dont have write access to it and its contained directories, how can i change the write permissions on that directory to let those in the group smb-write have write access? [07:02] http://www.library.yale.edu/wsg/docs/permissions/sgid.htm [07:02] group sticky bit [07:02] ty [07:03] tabb0t (~biju@117.196.148.40) joined ##slackware. [07:04] v4nelle (~van@78-99-105.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:04] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [07:05] quit [07:05] alisonken1lap, heh, turns out i had the directory's permission as rwxr-xr-x [07:05] oops my bad :) [07:05] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [07:05] :) [07:07] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [07:08] drwxrwxr-- 9 scott smb-write 4096 2010-07-26 07:04 Public :) [07:14] iseepackets1 (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [07:14] iseepackets (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:14] john_dee (~id@95-29-185-51.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [07:15] IRCzito (~INGG\terr@189.43.141.102) joined ##slackware. [07:16] Fenix-Dark chmod 664 dirs [07:17] Fenix-Dark oops' 775 [07:17] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:17] 7=rwx [07:17] IRCzito (INGG\terr@189.43.141.102) left ##slackware. 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[07:30] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) joined ##slackware. [07:31] if they have to go through me to change their password, that will be very discouraging to them [07:31] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:32] ross` (~ross@foo.mx) joined ##slackware. [07:32] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [07:33] iseepackets2 (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [07:33] iseepackets (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:33] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-60-106.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:33] Zordrak: I guess you can do it with mplayer, somehow [07:34] gave up.. pulling wxGTK for audacity nowm [07:34] haha [07:34] hope ith doesnt take forever to build [07:34] all i want to do is chop a soundbyte out of a file [07:35] (new sms tone :) ) [07:35] hehe, yeah, audacity should be good for that [07:35] could be quite good.. new SMS sound will be: "Fernando is faster than you" [07:35] lol [07:35] lol [07:36] thanks to nagios.. i get quite a few messages :) [07:36] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [07:38] Yandertal (rdlBNC@unaffiliated/yandertal) joined ##slackware. [07:47] ALVAN (~galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:48] nice day to all! [07:49] c'mon bitch, compile already [07:50] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-68-43.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:52] Zordrak: I'm pretty sure there's a law somewhere stating that there is a direct relation between the time you want something to compile in and the time it actually takes to compile [07:52] :) [07:53] shoulda just got it from bob [07:55] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.50.233) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [07:58] neurosys (~neurosys@c-71-196-20-208.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:59] I just revamped my iptables rules. now I am using iptables-restore instead of calling iptables everytime I want to update the ruleset. [08:02] how often do you change your rules? [08:03] Skywise: I was using rworkman's rc.firewall for a long time [08:03] but I just discovered ulog [08:03] :) [08:03] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [08:03] Skywise: so not very often, to answer your question [08:04] hey, i'm getting an error when trying to start wicd-curses... [08:04] File "/usr/lib/wicd/wicd-curses.py", line 1055, in [08:04] anyone getting the same? [08:04] not me [08:04] not here [08:04] zoran119: pastebin the full backtrace [08:04] NaCl: just a sec [08:04] anyone here that knows how to use git? i asked a question in #git, but everybody there seems to be asleep [08:04] zoran119: that isn't the full error though [08:05] what you gave is totally totally useless [08:05] yeah, what NaCl said :) [08:05] v3gard: what are you trying to do? [08:05] saving and restoring your rules is good when you have automatic updates from snort or similar apps [08:05] popl: when I clone from a remote server, what is the default location checked for repositories when using a simplified syntax like "git clone user@server:git-repo" ? [08:05] don't trust NaCl, he knows nothing of wicd-curses [08:05] but i typically just edit rc.firewall [08:05] heh [08:05] Yes. Absolutely nothing [08:05] NaCl: here is the error http://pastebin.com/rRzb7Ykb [08:06] i've seen several examples on the net using that syntax, but I have always had to use absolute pathnames [08:06] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-22-104.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:06] zoran119: what version of wicd are you running on what version of Slackware? [08:06] because you probably need to upgrade urwid (or Slackware) [08:07] v3gard: man git-clone and search for "default" :) [08:07] it will tell you [08:07] thanks :) [08:07] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.54) joined ##slackware. [08:07] slackware 13.1.... wicd-curses-uimod (using wicd 1.6.2.1)... that's what wicd-curses --version reports [08:07] upgrade wicd [08:07] that version is broken [08:08] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.54) left irc: Client Quit [08:08] NaCl: just use the slackbuild from the slackware cd? [08:08] this version is broken. ;P [08:08] slackpkg upgrade wicd [08:08] NaCl: which version should i upgrade to [08:08] I'm running 1.7.0 myself [08:08] whatever is in the 13.1 repo [08:09] I've been using NetworkManager (ironically) [08:09] at school I was clicking on connect next to one wireless ap and it kept trying to connect to a different one. :P [08:09] ew [08:09] networkmanager is so ugly :( [08:09] by ugly I mean bloat-tastic [08:09] There probably should be a more lightweight client [08:10] agreed [08:10] at least there are vpn plugins :P [08:10] I thought about writing one. [08:10] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-193.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:10] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [08:10] Not sure how much I want to learn GObjects. [08:10] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [08:11] nm-applet is quite tied to gnome, sadly [08:11] sms sound updated :) [08:11] NaCl: GObjects is so horrible. [08:11] I am aware [08:11] I read some of the NetworkManager code. [08:12] It's the primary reason I do not want to use GNOME, since I know for a fact I will be tempted to modify stuff that I use. [08:12] I find Qt easier to read [08:12] I find that many people share your opinion. [08:13] I was tempted to write one with Qt. [08:13] Then I realized that many people won't use it [08:13] because of having to install Qt. [08:13] fltk :P [08:13] NaCl, there already is a kde frontend, which covers most Qt consumers I guess [08:14] I've heard that is also a bit heavy. [08:14] isn't everything graphic just a front end now [08:14] eh? [08:14] nm has a cli counterpart too, I think [08:15] It's more like a remote [08:15] d4n1h4ck3r (~dani@189.77.122.19) joined ##slackware. [08:15] I personally like nm :> [08:15] I don't like how it asserts control over everything, but it is indeed functional [08:16] Given that not too long ago it was not so much. [08:16] Action: pprkut would like to see a qt frontend for connman [08:16] Does connman even work? [08:16] d4n1h4ck3r (dani@189.77.122.19) left ##slackware. [08:16] no idea [08:16] NaCl: awesome... thanks... all good now [08:16] And wicd was initially called "Connection Manager" [08:17] :P [08:17] hehe [08:17] zoran119: np [08:17] zerafuze (~zerafuze@CPE00222d5ceeab-CM00222d5ceea7.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [08:17] Fenix-Dark: @ denotes a group. it can be a local unix group [08:17] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:18] complexity creeps in too easily [08:18] Action: NaCl is well aware [08:18] Action: thrice` doesn't have high hopes for connman [08:18] thats what you get with options [08:18] NaCl: I guess once Meego gets used on more devices, connman will get more exposure as well [08:18] macs are simple cause you usually have few choices [08:18] if any [08:18] yeah [08:19] alright, screw complexity. there will be no more condiments. you can have mustard or ketchup on your burgers from now on, but not both. THAT'S IT. [08:19] OR ELSE [08:19] Action: popl prepares to lay siege to McDonald's [08:19] lol NaCl [08:19] :P [08:19] you're spreading yourself pretty thin there [08:20] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [08:20] Skywise: hah. hah. [08:21] one of these days i expect to see a star bucks in a mcdonalds and across the street a mcdonalds in a starbucks [08:21] how about a McDonald's in a Starbucks in a Barnes & Noble? [08:21] that hasn't happened already? [08:22] I haven't seen it. [08:22] i think last time i was in there, they were building a mini mall [08:22] I am not surprised. [08:23] There is a Super Target near where I used to live that has several fast food chains inside. [08:23] i thought it was kinda of cool when they first put in furniture so you could sit down while you looked at books [08:23] hell yeah, never pay for a book again [08:23] now you can practically move in [08:24] get something to eat, watch some tv, surf the net [08:25] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Quit: Elektro [08:25] jaelae (~jaelae@4133247a.cst.lightpath.net) joined ##slackware. [08:30] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.54) joined ##slackware. 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[09:06] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [09:07] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.247.255) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:08] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.224.28) joined ##slackware. [09:11] Nick change: Teratogen -> TetraGrammaTon [09:11] Nick change: TetraGrammaTon -> Teratogen [09:12] SOUL_OF_R00T (~0xff00@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:17] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-152.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:19] thurd (~tom@columbia.tresys.com) joined ##slackware. [09:19] thurd (tom@columbia.tresys.com) left ##slackware. [09:20] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [09:24] Hi [09:24] How can I disable iptables ? [09:25] modprobe -r iptables [09:26] s/iptables/ip_tables/ [09:27] whats a good torrent program to use with XFCE? [09:28] DURgod_ (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:28] i use to run ktorrent, but now that I dont do KDE anymore, whats a good one to use [09:28] KaMii: just cos you dont use KDE it doesnt mean you cant use ktorrent [09:29] Zordrak: i dont have kde installed [09:29] and im not installing the libs [09:29] Damn. [09:29] I have a problem. [09:29] KaMii: rtorrent [09:29] DURgod_ (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [09:29] is it nice and secure? [09:29] search slackbuilds.org for "torrent" theres a buttload of optiens [09:29] ok [09:29] buttloads huh.... thats gross [09:29] KaMii: no, it's a pain to use and insecure as hell [09:29] personally i use vuze (formerly azureus) [09:30] KaMii: but I recommend it anyway just for kicks [09:31] woh3 (will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [09:31] transmission is a popular torrent client [09:32] Zordrak: azureus is so full of bloat [09:32] Zordrak: I used to be a big fan. [09:32] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) joined ##slackware. [09:32] popl: it works, and im used to it [09:32] thatll do [09:33] vuze is wayy to much gui dependent [09:33] Azureus was the first gui torrent client I ever used a very long time ago. [09:33] its been running constantly for 313 days on a server that does torrents, mail a blog and little else [09:33] i have no need for change [09:33] i did transmission on OSX but last i looked at it in linux, it wasnt as secure [09:34] how's that ? [09:34] maybe they changed? [09:34] there were no security options under linux [09:34] uhm... [09:34] i could not do encryption [09:34] but in osx i could, but this was a long time ago [09:34] like a year [09:35] KaMii: www.transmissionbt.com [09:35] it does all the fancy stuff you'd expect from a modern torrent client [09:35] iseepackets (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [09:36] iseepackets1 (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:36] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-23-102.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:37] ya it looks like it does now [09:37] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:38] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [09:38] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [09:44] I have a dumb question... something I've never noticed til now: why do network interfaces not get their own device file? [09:45] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:46] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.169.83.6) joined ##slackware. [09:47] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:48] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [09:48] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-23-102.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [09:48] Redb3ard: Network interfaces are special. [09:49] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:49] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.54) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:49] Yeh, well their specialness is irritating, this morning. [09:49] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.71.209) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:49] Redb3ard: What are you trying to do? [09:50] I have this netbook that about 1 time out of every 20 boots, it will not bring up the wireless interface (atheros chipset). [09:50] And I was just going to do an -e /dev/wlan0 or whatever, to test if it existed or not. [09:50] modprobe -r atk9k; sleep 5; modprobe at9k [09:50] But now I have to parse ifconfig output. [09:50] bonding would be much easier.. cat /dev/eth0 /dev/eth1 >> /dev/bond0 =P [09:50] The trouble is that you can't just write directly to a NIC, not generally speaking. [09:51] You can setup a NIC with direct read-write support. originally, that's pretty much what serial ports were for. [09:51] Well, I wouldn't expect to be able to write to it. [09:51] That's why there's not dev file, at least that's my understanding, which may be flawed. [09:52] Well, thank you. The explanation does help. [09:52] Not a problem. [09:53] Typically you need to use a NIC with some sort of TCP/IP. Since TCP/IP is handled by the kernel, you need to read and write data to a kernel socket which handles all the hand shakes, acknowledgements, routing, etc. [09:54] The "everything is a file" really doesn't hold up once you begin making use of complicated networking systems. [09:54] Well, that's a cheat of an answer. There are about a dozen other protocol stacks besides IP. [09:54] Though, don't know if linux supports any of them anymore. [09:54] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-23-102.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:54] But yeh, I get that much. [09:54] Redb3ard: Yes, but they are typically require some sort of hand shaking, positive acknowledgement, etc. [09:55] And that's why I prefixed my statement with "Typically". [09:56] iseepackets1 (~George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [09:56] I guess the best way to do this is to system("ifconfig wlan0"), and check the return value then. 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[11:09] starcraft 2 tomorrw 8oD [11:10] :^( [11:10] will it a linux version? [11:10] Action: Alan_Hicks needs to buy a computer [11:10] have* [11:12] Alan_Hicks: I'll sell you my laptop :)\ [11:12] Hell no! [11:12] I'll buy your lap though. :^) [11:12] sorry, my lap and my laptop are a package deal [11:13] o_o [11:13] maybe that's what I need in a man.. one that can appreciate my laptop [11:13] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-23-102.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:14] raela: ._. [11:14] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-23-102.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:15] Roin: it's a beauty.. really [11:15] you got a photo? :p [11:16] http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1378/may2010lines.jpg [11:16] raela: is it getting worse? :P [11:16] yep [11:16] nvision (~nvision@brln-4db843df.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:16] raela: that stripes arent from the camera are they? ._. [11:17] nope! [11:17] Don't let that picture fool you. [11:17] nvision (~nvision@brln-4db843df.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [11:17] huh? [11:17] they blink, too [11:17] Her laptop is even shittier than that picture shows. [11:17] blingbling! [11:17] raela: you need a new one :o [11:17] hey! it's a champ! I use it daily! [11:17] Roin: I have a new one. I hate my new one [11:17] If you don't hold your mouth just right it goes black and requires a reboot. [11:18] raela: your eye doctor is probably pretty happy with it ._. [11:18] Alan_Hicks: pssh, I've never had that occur! [11:18] Roin: I don't have an eye doctor [11:18] It occured when I used it at SELF! [11:18] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) joined ##slackware. [11:19] well you probably made it angry [11:19] I don't remember the screen going black, though.. I do remember it freezing when you leaned on it too hard! [11:19] I think it just wanted to say: shut me down and let me rest in piece ._. 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[11:44] I get the into tune when I start kde [11:46] any ides where to start, by the way I also couldent start x as user after the reboot [11:46] something had screwed up the permissions.... [11:46] raela: its a LCD chip, i know i used fixed those, your laptop hit the floor few times didnt? [11:47] s4lv4d0r (1000@201.249.4.4) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:48] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.99) left irc: Quit: rafu [11:48] Nicce: what sound card and graphics card do you have? [11:49] raela: here is a song for you :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x-tCOWkMag [11:49] What kind opf hashing functions does the slackware use ? [11:49] I mean for the /etc/shadow [11:51] foobarz: Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) [11:51] ATI Technologies Inc M96 [Mobility Radeon HD 4650] [11:52] foobarz: it worked fine until I reboot and it worked perfekt in 13.0 [11:52] pupit: as far as I can remember, it has hit the floor once at most - it may have been the other one that did [11:52] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.252.73) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:53] crypt is the password encryption function. It is based on the Data Encryption Standard algorithm with variations intended (among other things) to discourage use of hardware implementations of a key search. [11:53] yeap thanks [11:54] v4nelle (~van@78-99-105.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:54] Nicce: I use Intel HD audio and NVidia HDMI... it might be similar to your audio... it took me a while to figure out how to make it work... including having to install linux kernel 2.6.34.1 with it's new alsa [11:54] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:55] raela: anyway, the lcd screen which comes with the chip is replaceable. as long as the lamp works its not a big thing :) [11:55] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [11:55] Nicce: I used the alsaconf script to dump me a basic .asoundrc, then I hacked it to add some dmix devices and a hack for skype audio that works more or less [11:56] raela: liked the song? [11:56] Nicce: the script is called asoundrc I mean [11:56] foobarz: Ok, I had it working thats the weird part.... [11:56] nvision (~nvision@brln-4db843df.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:56] foobarz: seams like something happend after the reboot [11:57] Nicce: what did you do before you rebooted? did you change kernel or anything? [11:57] pupit: listening now.. in the lab, so it can be hard to hear [11:57] foobarz: like I couldent startx as user and the sound i browser dident work [11:57] foobarz: No I think I installed flashplayer then shutdown for bed [11:59] foobarz: Now I have tried to remove everything with alsa inluding the kernel moduls [11:59] Nicce: cat /proc/asound/modules list your snd module for your card? [11:59] foobarz: and start all over, but dosent help [12:00] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:00] gnubien: 0 snd_pcsp [12:00] 1 snd_hda_intel [12:00] 2 snd_hda_intel [12:01] Nicce: ok, the snd-pcsp is for pc speaker, so card 0 should be the snd-hda-intel card [12:01] gnubien: ok how do I change it ? [12:01] Nicce: rmmod snd-pcsp might work [12:02] Action: King_Ozzy runs through the channel laughing maniacally [12:02] Nicce: blacklist snd-pcsp might work too [12:02] Teratogen (leontopod@unaffiliated/teratogen) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:02] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-102-175.consolidated.net) joined ##slackware. [12:03] gnubien: ok I try [12:03] crypt is the password encryption function. It is based on the Data Encryption Standard algorithm with variations intended (among other things) to discourage use of hardware implementations of a key search. [12:04] uh really my shadow password uses DES ? [12:04] its quite old encryption emthod ... [12:04] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [12:04] need a reboot be back later to tell if it worked :) [12:04] Nicce (~Nicke@ip-130-60-179-93.dialup.ice.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:05] options snd slots=snd-hda-intel,snd-pcsp [12:05] m3tti_ (~harlekin@p57B7FD54.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:06] Action: paul424 wonders if his question is so stupid or so difficult ... [12:06] zerafuze_ (~zerafuze@CPE00222d5ceeab-CM00222d5ceea7.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [12:06] King_Ozzy (King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) left ##slackware. [12:06] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7EB3B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:06] zerafuze (~zerafuze@CPE00222d5ceeab-CM00222d5ceea7.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:06] Nick change: zerafuze_ -> zerafuze [12:07] DES > * [12:09] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:09] iseepackets (George@adsl-074-185-204-198.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [12:15] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!0@* expired. [12:15] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:18] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:19] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:20] hehe, that snd_pcsp was the default card I bet... good work [12:22] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [12:22] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [12:26] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:40] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB44E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [12:40] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:43] v4nelle (~van@78-99-105.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:44] v4nelle (~van@78-99-105.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[13:03] teckan (~teckan@p578E229F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:03] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:05] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-156-019.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:05] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:05] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [13:05] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [13:06] I now have Server 2008R2, CentOS & Debian KVM / Qemu virtual machines running on my Slackware host :D [13:07] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB44E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [13:07] they are running on raw logical volumes, and they can see the host CPU [13:08] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ALyon-153-1-11-242.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:08] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:10] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB44E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:15] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB44E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [13:17] does anyone have a decent system monitor plasmoid to recommend? [13:17] is this worth buying: [13:17] http://store.slackware.com/cgi-bin/store/slackbook?id=CNfCkogU&mv_pc=87 [13:17] or maybe its too old now? [13:17] im mostly interested in hardware temperature [13:17] sahk0: i run lmsensors [13:17] i dont think thats a gui [13:17] http://www.lm-sensors.org/ [13:18] no gui [13:18] dustybin: yes imo the Slackbook is worth it [13:18] i want gui. i have lm_sensors too [13:18] sahk0: is that the slackbook? [13:19] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [13:19] yes [13:19] in printed form [13:19] it says 'slackware essentials' [13:19] oh [13:19] ok [13:19] if you get it with a CD/DVD combo its much better [13:19] thats how i got it [13:19] i want a t-shirt [13:20] last year i wore my debian tshirt, because i was a debian user [13:20] now im a slack user :D [13:20] Nicce (~Nicke@ip-171-194-241-92.dialup.ice.net) joined ##slackware. [13:21] How can I change the xterm terminal background color to back? [13:21] tabb0t (~biju@117.196.132.120) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:21] -bg black ? [13:22] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Client Quit [13:22] should be easy to find in the man page or the internet [13:22] and please stop asking the same or similar questions all the time [13:23] gnubien: thanks a bunch! Just added snd_pcsp to backlist now everything is working fine [13:23] ok [13:23] thats shows you havent learnt anything [13:23] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-163-95-12.range86-163.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:26] sahk0: what's wrong with the default plasma system monitor? [13:27] pprkut: besides i just found i have it, probably nothing [13:28] i thought all that stuff was in kdeplasma-addons. seems they're not. let me try, thanks [13:29] who's going to defcon ? [13:29] Kaapa (~Something@a95-93-240-222.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [13:30] to be able to play dvds and stuff in slackware I must download some extra libs ? [13:30] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-163-55-230.range86-163.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:30] most likely not [13:32] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-195-70.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [13:36] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-21-30.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:36] Nicce: you might need to download libdvdcss from slackbuilds [13:37] Scuzz: ah ok I try that [13:37] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB44E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:39] Nick change: AlexElliott__ -> AlexElliott [13:42] chance22 (~chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:44] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-195-70.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:44] users aint allowed to play dvd in x ? [13:45] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:45] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:46] add your user to the video group [13:46] Axius_ (~fd@92.82.64.214) joined ##slackware. [13:48] #/window new hide [13:48] ops lol [13:48] guys can anyone help me with dual monitor setup? [13:48] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [13:49] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-70-252.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [13:49] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:49] Scuzz: in /etc/group ? [13:50] I've put this code in my .Xdefaults: xterm -fg wite -bg black and it does not work. What should I put to make it work? [13:51] Axius_, did you read that link about Xdefaults i sent ? that's not the proper syntax [13:52] trhodes: no [13:52] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-23-102.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:52] Nicce: gpasswd -a audio [13:52] Axius_ (~fd@92.82.64.214) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [13:53] my users has both audio and video though [13:53] trhodes: Could you give me the link again? [13:53] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-134-117.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:53] Axius, ok [13:54] geoff0110: thanks working [13:54] Axius, http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xdefaults [13:54] now the sound thats seams to work everywhere aint working when I watching a dvd......!!! [13:55] trhodes: thanks [13:55] Axius, you're welcome - i'm not sure of the exact resource name of an xterm bg [13:57] Axius, the resource name for xterms' background is "XtdefaultBackground" (gotten from a "/" search of background from xterm's manpage) [13:57] Axius, takes the same argument as the command-line option [13:58] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:58] Nicce (~Nicke@ip-171-194-241-92.dialup.ice.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:59] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:59] Axius, try something like "xterm*XtdefaultBackground black" in your .Xdefaults, and xrdb can merge that in once you've added that [13:59] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-195-70.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:00] Axius (~fd@92.82.64.214) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:05] -bg is a command line switch, not .Xdefaults [14:05] looks like he left already [14:06] Nicce (~Nicke@ip-207-192-241-92.dialup.ice.net) joined ##slackware. [14:07] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [14:07] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-23-102.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [14:08] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ALyon-153-1-11-242.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:09] adrien: ping [14:09] stinky: hes not around. wait 3 weeks and ping again [14:11] vacation? [14:11] more or less [14:12] okay [14:12] thanks [14:12] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-195-70.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:16] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB44E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [14:17] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB44E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:19] is there some dependency for imagemagick? i have installed it but it says: command not found [14:20] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:21] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-kyehkzbdzwwwojbc) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:22] isn'T it written in uppercase ? [14:22] like ImageMagic [14:23] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU2ftCitvyQ [14:23] loooool XD [14:24] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:24] ImageMagick's "delegate" feature calls external programs [14:25] pupit: grep usr/bin /var/log/packages/imagemagick* [14:25] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-151-207.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:26] hobin (~hobin___@94.125.216.34) joined ##slackware. [14:26] pupit, what were you doing to get that error ? [14:26] the man page for imagemagick is case-sensitive -- "man ImageMagick" [14:26] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-151-207.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:26] it's just a bunch of programs [14:26] trhodes: nothing, just installed it via pkgtool from my mirror [14:27] yeah, then the main man page is that case-sensitive one and like what sahko showed, it's a collection of several programs (btw, the html documentation is much more useful than the manpages) [14:30] sahko, trhodes, must restart :/ [14:30] spiraliz (~spiraliz@72.81-167-30.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [14:30] something is wrong with the system.. grep isnt working either [14:31] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [14:32] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:32] spiraliz (~spiraliz@72.81-167-30.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [14:32] whats the error? [14:35] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [14:36] pupit, any idea what went wrong ? [14:36] well, its not the system for sure, just restarted it to be sure [14:36] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@host-Q-85.dhcp.stevens-tech.edu) joined ##slackware. [14:36] the problem is still : bash: imagemagick: command not found [14:37] but i have it installed! [14:37] it's not a command [14:37] grep usr/bin /var/log/packages/imagemagick* # to see the various commands [14:37] try display [14:37] which: no imagemagick in (/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/lib64/java/bin:/usr/lib64/kde4/libexec:/usr/lib64/qt/bin:/usr/share/texmf/bin:.) [14:37] yeah, display is nice; it's one of the few simple image viewers i can easily remember [14:38] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-163-55-230.range86-163.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:39] trhodes, sahko thanks. its not the command :D [14:39] why didnt grep work? [14:39] sahko: pebkac problem :) [14:40] hehe:) [14:40] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-15-142.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. 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[14:43] convert pupit [14:43] /usr/share/doc/ImageMagick-*/www/command-line-processing.html#geometry [14:43] it's is called convert XD [14:44] yep, and that file has the geometry syntax (i already had it open for something i'm doing) [14:44] m3tti_, trhodes thanks :) [14:45] how is that imagemagick has no man entry? gues i ask the same q in ## [14:45] it does, "ImageMagick" [14:45] it does [14:46] InTel_BG (~intel@95.43.26.175) joined ##slackware. [14:47] LnxSlck (~LnxSlck@bl20-129-212.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:48] Hello, I'll try to describe my "strange question" - the people says that slack no dependencyes and this is control, but if you remove some package and the master package (which need the removed package) doesn't work, so you can't do what you want [14:48] and whis is not big control? [14:49] sirslacker (1000@s1810.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [14:49] this* so where is the control of the packages [14:49] sirslacker (1000@s1810.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Client Quit [14:50] great story [14:51] poor english :) il talk to him [14:52] maybe a native language slackware channel could help [14:53] (21,52,40) Skywise: I don't know for Slackware channel in BG ;) [14:54] i don't know what bg is [14:54] v4nelle (~van@78-99-105.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:54] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [14:54] Bulgaria [14:54] yess [14:55] geoff0110 (~geoff0110@212.183.140.34) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:55] duet (~duet@71.21.89.86) joined ##slackware. [14:55] i got a noob question [14:55] well slackware has dependencies, it doesn't do dependency checking [14:56] lost1nsp4c3 (~lost1nsp4@modemcable166.202-58-74.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:56] if i am running old hardware do i really need to update my kernel on a regular basis [14:56] no [14:56] i still download security updates for software but should i worry about the kernel [14:56] hey guys hows it going? I gotta quick question I have a server with 3 nic cards (one for net 2 for 2 diff subnets) the server shares the net for both subnets but I don't want the subnets to see each other....can anybody point me in the right direction via iptables? [14:57] you only need to upgrade if theres a security issue that impacts you [14:57] Skywise: thanks [14:57] and really if you don't have any users on your system, you have even less risk [14:57] Skywise: kool [14:58] duet: I hear there are some old BSD servers on the net that have never been shut down or rebooted. They just upgrade with modules peridically, no downtime, no new kernel version. [14:58] duet: Like from the early 1990's [14:59] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:59] Axius (~fd@92.82.64.214) joined ##slackware. [14:59] anybody? [14:59] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-167-210.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:00] lost1nsp4c3, 2 rules in FORWARD chain: -i LAN1_IF -o LAN2_IF -j REJECT (and switch the -i and -o) [15:00] lost1nsp4c3, don't forward packets from each subnet and only masquerade them to the internet ip [15:00] rob0, thanks =) [15:00] and for heaven's sake STOP NAGGING about answers not being fast enough to suit you! [15:00] chance22: now that you mention i have heard that [15:00] i prefer fresh installs i will wait until 13.2 [15:00] i am constantly installing software that i only use one time and then forget about it [15:00] rob0, sorry didn't mean it that way [15:03] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.99) joined ##slackware. [15:04] anybody? [15:04] j/k :) [15:06] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-71-127-17-34.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[15:20] buenass [15:21] mi from is argentina [15:21] sorry for my bad english [15:21] i cant install flash player in slackware64 [15:21] :'( [15:21] cant see videos on youtube and etc... [15:22] help me, please! [15:22] i read manuals and how-to's... [15:23] i think you need multilib or something like that [15:24] tew (~tew@gaskammare.se) joined ##slackware. [15:24] is that discontinuous adobe software, but should work well with the latest version, right? well, does not work, download the libflash.so and put it in / lib64/mozilla/plugins and still no go [15:24] It's there a slackbuild for Flashplayer 64? [15:25] yes http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/multimedia/flash-player-plugin/ [15:25] There is no new flashplayer 64-bit for Linux. Abode hates us. [15:25] its not the first time someone has asked about it, i just didn't pay attention to the answers [15:26] That's the older 10.0 version. [15:26] CaBeTuX: do you have an amd cpu? [15:26] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-167-210.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:26] have Flash working on my 13.1 64 box and I believe that I just used the Slackbuild [15:26] raela, yes [15:27] CaBeTuX: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep family [15:27] is it family 17? [15:27] AMD Athlon x2 64 [15:27] one second [15:27] raela, yes [15:27] family 17 [15:27] CaBeTuX: if so.. follow this http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/flash-crashes-firefox-on-x86_64/ [15:28] ok raela [15:28] thanks! [15:28] Action: arfon keeps forgetting about that Family 17.... [15:28] oh, FF. urgh [15:29] arfon: I have a family 17 cpu.. makes me wonder if my 64 bit issues with flash were due to it. I gave up on 64 bit before someone showed me that though [15:29] anyone here listen to the "linux link tech show" [15:29] what is wrong with the family 17? [15:29] CaBeTuX: certain cpus in that family lack an instruction.. that link shows how to fix it and explains it [15:30] I've had flashplayer crash, but it's very seldom taken down Firefox in total. Certainly far fewer times than it did on my old 32-bit machines. [15:30] tew (~tew@gaskammare.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:30] duet: Got a link? [15:31] m3tti_ (~harlekin@p57B7FD54.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:31] www.tllts.org [15:31] i dont think its for everyone [15:32] CathInBlue: you probably wont like it [15:32] I have a Turion x2, which is a family 17 proc. [15:32] my cpu flags include "lahf_lm"! [15:32] :S [15:33] CathyInBlue: if it's missing the lahf_lm, then it wouldn't work at all [15:33] CaBeTuX: try that method anyway [15:33] CaBeTuX: if it doesn't fix it, just remove it, but it doesn't hurt to try [15:33] CathyInBlue: you should try www.linuxoutlaws.com [15:33] Nope. I've got that flag in /proc/cpuinfo [15:33] its way more funny [15:33] no crash the firefox! only not detect, no work (sorry for my english :S i student english) [15:33] that page talks about family 15 [15:33] wow, there is an article about Xeon processors on Tom's Hardware... sites hardly ever talk about Xeon processors [15:34] CathyInBlue: yeah I don't think it's your issue since it works sometimes [15:34] Skywise: thought it was 17 [15:34] oh whoops, 15 [15:34] bleh [15:34] isw (~i@static-71-252-134-19.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:34] nevermind then. I thought my processor was right family but had flag [15:35] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-134-117.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:35] tew (~tew@gaskammare.se) joined ##slackware. [15:35] i guess you could always check the gentoo bugtracker, thats how the family 15 error was fixed for slackware [15:36] josemanuel (~josemanue@90.252.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. 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[15:47] Nick change: tew -> tewmten [15:48] hobin (~hobin___@94.125.216.34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:48] only work the slackbuild [15:49] download packages of slackbuilds, run slackbuild, install the package and work 100 %, no crashes!!! work 100 % :D thanksssssssss [15:49] shell-fu (~shell-fu@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:49] un abrazo desde argentina! [15:49] bye bye [15:49] CaBeTuX (Cabetux@190.174.107.79) left ##slackware ("Saliendo"). [15:50] sahko: 'is your son a computer hacker' is a good one, but the comments are even better :) [15:51] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-434086.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:52] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:52] duet (~duet@71.21.89.86) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:52] alan`__ (~alan@rrcs-67-53-156-164.west.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:52] CathyInBlue: found it, its caitlyn not cathy :) http://news.oreilly.com/2008/06/slackware-121-the-newest-versi.html [15:53] alan` (~alan@CPE-72-133-198-144.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:54] its a bit old... but stands still [15:54] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:55] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [15:55] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [15:55] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [15:55] Zordrak: you had a question? I was out during the day (my timezone) [15:55] what are some of the premier virtual software programs for hosting guest as servers in a CLI environment ????? [15:56] what does "premier" mean ? 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[17:00] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:01] alan` (~alan@etmalec.net) left irc: Disconnected by services [17:01] i want this http://vig-fp.prenhall.com/bigcovers/0131480057.jpg [17:01] alan` (alan@rrcs-67-52-47-64.west.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:02] do you have any other edition? [17:02] Nicce (~Nicke@ip-207-192-241-92.dialup.ice.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:02] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-23-102.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:03] nope [17:05] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-163-55-207.range86-163.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:07] BiCHiTo (Yposu4i2zw@unaffiliated/bichito) left irc: Quit: Reconnecting [17:08] Fenix-Dark (~scott@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [17:10] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:10] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-134-117.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. 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[17:21] dustybin $76 [17:21] http://omf.gd/ayp [17:22] Nick change: Wulf-is-not-here -> WireWulf [17:23] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-153-255.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:24] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ALyon-153-1-11-242.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: https://linuxspirit.fr [17:24] its $53.99 on amazon [17:24] errordeveloper (~errordeve@86.163.95.39) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:24] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:25] wget looks the url [17:25] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-176-227.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:26] Has anyone here ever used an Option Wireless usb modem? I was expecting it to show up as a serial port that I'd need to run ppp over... [17:26] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:26] But instead, I get an actual hso0 network interface, which is weird as hell. [17:28] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-73-182.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:30] josemanuel (~josemanue@90.252.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [17:31] Red, what is an Option Wireless...? [17:31] spiraliz (~spiraliz@72.81-167-30.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:32] hmmm..i see one can make a slackware live usb from an already installed slackware....if i do not have the option to install slackware anywhere..how can i make one on the fly.. [17:32] is there any way? [17:32] Option is the name of the company. [17:32] They make USB cell modems/aircards. [17:33] Never heard of it, I'm running a Novatel and it coems up as ttyUSB0, ttyUSB1 and ttyUSB2 [17:33] Some here is running another brand and it comes up as a ttyACM0 [17:33] Yeh, I have one of those too. Though the 760 comes up as 4 of them. [17:33] some = someone [17:34] I forget which it was that I saw come up as ACM, that was weird. [17:34] 760 is what I have... nvere noticed the 4th [17:34] The Zoom 4595 GSM comes up as 3 ttyUSB. [17:34] dip (~10@187.65.83.221) joined ##slackware. [17:34] I like it, I got it working to where I can do AT+CSQ on it, and get back signal strength for one of our applications. [17:35] But I've only got it to connect once, ever, though nothing has changed. [17:35] The novatel? [17:35] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:35] looks to me as if the search path to automoc4 is not (correct) set. Where is this defined? [17:37] I like it, I got it working to where I can do AT+CSQ on it, [17:37] and get back signal strength for one of our applications. [17:37] Nick change: WireWulf -> Wulf-is-not-here [17:37] was that on the Novatel? [17:39] Nah, the Novatel attaches. The Zoom... [17:40] And just got it to go again a second time. [17:40] This one: http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-4595-Tri-Band-Modem-Services/dp/B002OT92CC . [17:41] Though, now it's bitching that the serial link isn't 8-bit clean. [17:41] Ugh. [17:43] Still, it gets as far as sending a few LCP packets. I think that's progress. [17:43] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [17:44] The trouble I'm really having is finding modems that I can buy directly, in bulk. I love the Novatel 760, it just works... but Novatel or their distributors make it difficult to buy them. [17:44] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:44] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:45] Nick change: surround1r -> surrounder [17:45] I think the Zoom satisfies us for a GSM product, but no idea what we'll use in CDMA-only areas. [17:46] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [17:46] Nick change: Wulf-is-not-here -> WireWulf [17:48] Redb3ard: who is us? [17:48] Company I work for. [17:48] which is? [17:49] dualshoott (~dualshoot@unaffiliated/dualshoott) joined ##slackware. [17:49] http://smartfield.com ... we make agricultural sensors that have to dial home to send data. [17:50] i see... [17:50] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-134-117.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:52] We're experimenting with some ultra-low power ARM single board computers, and my preference on them is Slackware. [17:52] ofc it is ;) [17:53] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-23-102.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [17:53] panzer (~panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) left irc: Disconnected by services [17:54] Bye panzer. :( [17:57] Time to go home... Night guys [17:57] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:58] veritos (~veritos@207.155.204.151.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [17:58] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-10-159.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Quit: Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug. [18:01] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-434086.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [18:02] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-434086.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:02] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-434086.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [18:03] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-68-43.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:04] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:04] taopunk_m (~taopunk@166.137.15.58) joined ##slackware. [18:04] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [18:05] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-434086.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:05] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:06] Nick change: WireWulf -> Wulf-is-not-here [18:06] Nick change: Wulf-is-not-here -> WireWulf [18:08] dualshoott (dualshoot@unaffiliated/dualshoott) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [18:09] Cr1kk4 (~fabio@93-45-116-62.ip102.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [18:09] taopunk_m (~taopunk@166.137.15.58) left irc: Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi [18:12] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-10-159.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [18:12] veritos (~veritos@207.155.204.151.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:13] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [18:14] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:15] Hi I have a little problem. I have 5 hard drives (1.5tb, 1.5tb, 1tb, 1tb, 650gb) but only room for four in my case and psu. Out of the 4, one is a boot. The other three are back up. How should I set this up? [18:15] buy a new case? [18:15] NO! [18:16] well, considering it's obviously not possible to fit all 5, I'd say lose the smallest, unless you want to get an eSATA box and put a large one in there for portabilititty [18:16] >:( This is a choice I must make. [18:16] eSATA box be $25 [18:16] Okay so I have a 2x1tb and 2x1.5tb, which one becomes the one I boot into? [18:16] you can also convert one to an external usb type of thing [18:16] the fastest ? [18:16] or get a new case [18:17] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Don't follow me [18:17] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:17] i'd suggest getting a new case, and buying even more hdds :) [18:17] disk is cheap [18:18] mount it on the outside of the case, all you need are 4 screws [18:19] taopunk_m (~taopunk@166.137.15.58) joined ##slackware. [18:19] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:20] arent sata harddrives also hotswappable? you can swap them when you need [18:20] Urchlay (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [18:20] Hot swappable like USB? [18:20] I doubt it. [18:21] i do it with esata drive [18:21] Should the 1tb become the boot drive or 1.5tb? [18:21] and the esata bracket is just connected to the sata port on my motherboard [18:21] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [18:21] Sata is hot swappable I have 2 external cases that you just pop one out and put another in [18:22] i dont know if the powercable for sata is hotswappable [18:22] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Quit: Elektro [18:23] yes you can remove them like hot swap scsi drives [18:23] at least the newer sata drives. original sata spec didn't have that [18:23] also, if you want a clean removal from linux, you should remove it from the scsi chain first [18:26] briareus (~briareus@ip72-211-190-215.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:26] briareus (~briareus@ip72-211-190-215.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Changing host [18:26] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [18:26] Kaapa (~Something@a95-93-242-251.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:26] MrJacks0n (Mr@173-86-10-159.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [18:27] br00tal (~br00tal@c-66-41-95-104.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:28] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:28] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [18:29] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-68-43.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:30] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-10-159.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:31] Hm, I'm thinking right now, whawt is the best way to do this. [18:31] Nick change: MrJacks0n -> MrJackson [18:32] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) joined ##slackware. [18:33] Which one is the boot device is irrelevant. [18:33] Nick change: cuba33ci -> cuba33ci_ [18:33] Nick change: cuba33ci_ -> cuba33ci [18:34] Well, I planned this. [18:34] 2x1 as immediate backup, 2x1.5 as most important backup of all, and 650gb as boot. [18:34] It just makes life easier for me. [18:34] Is it bad if I place the 650gb on the bottom of the case? That is, it is not mounted to anything. [18:35] won't you get vibration? [18:36] I.. I don't know, will I? [18:36] can't be good [18:36] ElectRo` (ElectRo@hack.the.gibson.hackthapla.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:36] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:38] Shoot. [18:38] And the heat. [18:38] Hm.. [18:39] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [18:39] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-10-159.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Quit: Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug. [18:39] I can try and mount it to the side of the case under the DVD drive but.. the other side of the hard drive will not be mounted,, you guys think that's.. safe? [18:40] hey generally speaking how much processing power should the dialog process be using?? [18:40] Dialog process? Not much if any. [18:40] taopunk_m (~taopunk@166.137.15.58) left irc: Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi [18:41] hahah so the fact that its using all of 1 of my cores is a bad thing [18:41] riza, I know you're broke, but if you can scrounge up the $$ a USB-to-SATA adapter is pretty cheap. [18:41] Hm what foR?\ [18:41] for? [18:41] Ooh.. [18:41] the fifth drive could be external [18:42] and offsite as needed! [18:42] So is it even possible to boot from 650gb as USB? [18:42] i have no scripting experience, and i'm working on a bash script to take text input and create a new users, change the user's password, add that user to samba, and edit the smb.conf file to create a samba share for this user. this is what i have done so far: http://pastebin.org/420988 i have not tried it, but the one part i know is wrong is when i want to use the passwd command. i know when you enter a 'weak' password, you need to en [18:42] ter it in two more times, and i'm not sure what syntax to use in a bash script to do that [18:42] oh I don't know, depends in part on your BIOS [18:42] rrh (~foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:42] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [18:42] Hm.. [18:42] ElectRo` (ElectRo@hack.the.gibson.hackthapla.net) joined ##slackware. [18:42] sinuhe (~sinuhe@hq-nat2.gurulabs.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:44] Fenix-Dark: #bash [18:44] rrh (~foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [18:44] sahko, good call [18:44] I should put it in the floppy sectioon, the 650gb. [18:44] I'll risk it, brb. [18:44] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:44] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: riza [18:45] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [18:45] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) joined ##slackware. [18:45] guys, what did panzer say before he left? [18:46] Sir_Konrad: read the topic [18:46] Nick change: WireWulf -> Wulf-is-not-here [18:46] sahko: I know. What did he say? [18:47] 5:53p * panzer (~panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) Quit (Disconnected by services) [18:49] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-198.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [18:50] Sir_Konrad, I gave you the link to his last words in here. [18:50] http://buhkit.net/~michiel/files/panzer_slackware.log [18:51] rob0: yeah, I can't seem to pull it up. >_< [18:51] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-10-159.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [18:52] rob0: can you send that to me? I'm having issues over here. [18:52] io (~io@ubuntu/member/io) joined ##slackware. [18:53] theres no smoking gun... [18:53] hmm... a lot of guts to log in with ubuntu in ##slackware... ;) [18:53] heh [18:53] yeah, he could get criticized [18:53] /whois io [18:53] Cr1kk4 (fabio@93-45-116-62.ip102.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [18:54] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:57] io (io@ubuntu/member/io) left ##slackware. [18:58] no reason to drive them away because they use ubuntu... [18:58] The-Croupier: heh. I'm on OS X. [18:58] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:58] Nick change: Yandertal -> Dreams_Fest [18:58] i didnt say he should leave? [18:58] .... :( [18:59] lol, that was a joke... for me all linux users..are the same... [19:00] Cr1kk4 (~fabio@93-45-116-62.ip102.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [19:01] AFAIK everyone (who wasn't banned for some reason, of course) is welcome here, with the restriction that the topic is Slackware Linux. (For the most part. Nothing wrong with Sir_Konrad inquiring about Panzer.) [19:01] Fenix-Dark (~scott@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:01] rob0: yeah. :( [19:01] thanks for sending the email [19:02] The-Croupier1 (~Arbi@ip72-207-16-79.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:02] rob0: you send the log? [19:02] yw, and do read the rhisa link too. [19:02] yes [19:02] k, thanks. :) [19:02] oh, you took it down? [19:02] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [19:02] nope. [19:03] it'll probably get a few hits through August at least. [19:03] win 31 [19:03] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:03] rob0: so how did you find out? I see there was an hour gap and you seemed to know by then. [19:03] Nick change: The-Croupier1 -> The-Croupier [19:04] Sir_Konrad: that isn't an hour. look at hte datestamps [19:04] The-Croupier (~Arbi@ip72-207-16-79.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: Changing host [19:04] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [19:04] oh ok. Sorry. [19:04] does anyone know how they found out? [19:04] hmm Sir_Konrad might have a point, I'll bring some spacing between the various dates [19:05] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Client Quit [19:05] peter__ (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:06] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [19:06] there that should make it a bit more readable. [19:06] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:06] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:06] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [19:07] brianw (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-116.fpscc.den.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [19:08] BP{k}, yes, much better [19:08] Nick change: y3llow -> y3llow_ [19:08] Nick change: y3llow_ -> y3llow [19:11] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [19:12] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [19:12] Muah ha ha!!! Be jealous! [19:12] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [19:12] For now I have the powah! POWAH OF SPACE! http://bluecouch.com.au/reviews/sonata3/sonata3-6.jpg I placed the 650gb hd in the floppy area. You can see where the hard drive is in the picture and all four are there. [19:12] That's exactly the case I have, Sonata III. [19:13] hey riza. [19:13] Hello Sir_Konrad. [19:13] hyndai make that case? [19:13] Antec. [19:13] I got it from newegg when it was on Sales, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129024 [19:13] hmmm... i've never seen anyone driving an antec ;) [19:14] riza: not too shabby ;) [19:14] riza, Sir_Konrad was a good friend of Panzer from ##hardware and #cpu. [19:14] riza: nice small case ;) [19:14] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216&Tpk=Coolermaster%20CM%20690%20II%20Advanced <- Mine :D [19:14] briareus (~briareus@ip72-211-190-215.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:14] briareus (~briareus@ip72-211-190-215.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Changing host [19:14] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [19:14] rob0, I think I was in #cpu, I think I knew Armand who ran #cpu right? [19:15] Right, Armand! [19:15] ! :D [19:15] BP{k}, thank you! I only wish I had bought a better mobo though. [19:15] john_dee (~id@95-29-185-51.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [19:15] I like Armand. He hasn't been able to be in #cpu lately, and I don't think he knows about panzer. :( [19:15] I had a Sonata II, nice case. (It got stolen. :( ) [19:16] Sir_Konrad, if I remember last, Armand was busy getting certificates too. ANd he.. lived in UK methinks? [19:16] rob0, how.. in the world did something as big as a pc case get stolen!? [19:16] BP{k}, check out my wish list - http://www.rhisa.com/node/434 [19:16] rob0, just the case was stolen? [19:16] riza: yup. I haven't seen you in there before. Did you know him out of the channel? [19:16] riza, heh. They also took a 19" CRT (so what) and a 50" HDTV. :( [19:17] Sir_Konrad, no, I was under two different names. [19:17] Antec make decent cases. I have a P182 [19:17] rob0, ouch! My house was burglarized too. ;_; [19:17] riza: what is your other name in IRC? [19:17] shonudo, I had a server with a Supermicro motherboard in it. [19:17] Disk /dev/sda: 640.1 GB, 2x1000.2 GB, 2x1500.3 GB <== Riza is happy! [19:18] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:18] riza nice! [19:18] Sir_Konrad, I am sorry but I rather not say. I am completely avoiding anything to do with my old names. I should say though I never met you, at least not in any length. [19:18] riza: very nice :) [19:18] riza: that's ok. ;) [19:18] 2009-04-23 21:50 UTC, lost connection to that server, checked it out a few days later, long gone. [19:18] If I may ask.. [19:19] I may have missed it and I can be completely idiotic but.. how.. did panzer go? [19:19] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:19] riza: he committed suicide, but I don't know the details of how. [19:19] Never mind, forget I asked. [19:20] Yeah I know but I meant the detail, I don't want to believe it's suicide. [19:20] me neither. :( [19:20] There was a celebrity who had his throat slit and they said it was suicide. I don't believe anyone so self-hating that he or she would slit his own throat. You know what I'm trying to say? [19:20] yeah. Maybe he didn't do it? [19:21] Precisely. [19:21] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.81.186) joined ##slackware. [19:21] I wish that was the case, it would make it easier [19:22] brianw: any chance of that? [19:22] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:22] very, very unlikely [19:22] small country community, everyone knew him or was related to him [19:23] panzer seemed very well known one way or another. How can he not look for some help? [19:23] riza: I know that is what has me so confused [19:24] And did he not leave a note? [19:24] he drove within a couple miles of my house and didn't even let me know he was down here [19:24] It has to be murder. [19:24] no not or anything [19:24] note [19:24] He passed away away from home? [19:24] yes [19:24] Hm.. [19:25] Hard to believe. [19:25] well, depends on what you mean by home [19:25] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [19:25] Hm.. [19:25] he went to his childhood home where he and his mom lived when he was a kid [19:25] He.. he miss his mother?.. [19:26] well let me start from the beginning. [19:27] He came down to visit his mom and stepdad on Dauphin Island on Wednesday [19:27] his stepdad said he seemed kind of distant, they went riding around and he was pretty quiet [19:28] I had encouraged him to put in an application with a company down here for a senior NOC engineering position, which his stepdad said he mentioned something about [19:28] down here = Mobile [19:29] smartasstronaut (~jay@adsl-240-69-112.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:29] At some point he and his mother got into some "little arguement about something little" I believe his stepdad said [19:29] he got into his car and left, drove up to Chatom and stayed the night with his grandmother [19:30] sometime the next day he drove up to birmingham to where he was staying. Talked to his roommate and borrow his pistol and said something to the effect that "he wouldn't need any of his stuff" [19:31] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-8-161.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:32] At some point he drove back down to the chatom area and went to this old house place where grew up. Pulled into the driveway and shot himself sometime in the early morning hours on Friday [19:32] His uncle found him somewhere around 4am I think when he was leaving to go to work [19:33] oh my. [19:33] brianw: he shot himself in his car? [19:34] that's what I understand [19:34] with a borrowed pistol, ugh [19:34] ok... :( [19:34] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:34] I don't know for certain [19:34] I didn't ask [19:34] brianw: why did his friend let him have the pistol?! [19:34] Wait. [19:34] friend had no idea either, I bet [19:34] I have no idea [19:35] May I post this on my website? I mean what you just typedo ut. [19:35] out [19:35] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:35] rob0, doubt it. I really don't know. [19:35] boringwall (wat@c-71-225-89-70.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:35] If you trust someone enough to lend them a weapon, a gun no less, you must know something. [19:35] right, you just don't let anyone have a gun. [19:36] riza: I don't know, I think the family might not want that. [19:36] I wouldn't let my best friend borrow a gun without other people knowing and them getting aproval. [19:36] Especially if you say something like "I don't need any of this". [19:36] brianw, understood. I just want to analyze this. Something is amiss. [19:36] yikes, we should have had this discussion in #balu [19:36] ##slackware is logged ... [19:36] crap I know [19:37] well I know now [19:37] rob0, hm I had no idea. Who logs it? [19:37] /topic, phrag I think [19:37] riza: its public logs... [19:37] The-Croupier, :( [19:37] phrag changed the topic only... he doesnt log it ;) [19:38] brianw: did you not want that logged? [19:38] Well, his roommate will have that burdon on him. I will have the burdon of not reaching out to him over the last days/weeks/months [19:38] Sir_Konrad, wanted to respect his family's privacy. [19:38] oh. [19:39] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:39] riza will you pm me? [19:39] Patero-ng (~hp@174-23-46-96.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [19:40] how do I config my slackware 12 firewall [19:40] what kind of firewall does it comes with it packet based or proxy type [19:40] Patero-ng, see rc.d/rc.firewall. [19:40] iptables. [19:40] And both. [19:40] damn that ban didnt last long [19:40] sup [19:40] sahko, hm? Who? [19:40] Patero-ng: `man iptables` [19:40] riza: Patero-ng [19:41] CathyInBlue, ur da man [19:41] God, I hope not. [19:41] riza: also Slackware doesnt have an /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall by default :p [19:41] sahko, well.. :o You can always create one and set an +x to it. [19:42] of course [19:42] CathyInBlue, :) [19:44] ea_suter (~easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:45] sorry, but I have to get away for a while. I'll be back later though [19:46] Patero-ng: alienBOB has an easy firewall generator for Slackware, if you need something quick to work with. http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/efg/ [19:46] yesyes (~yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) joined ##slackware. [19:47] Patero-ng: shorewall was what I was thinking of and there is a package script for it on slackbuilds.org [19:47] oda (~oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:48] Freejack` (~Freejack@24-179-12-98.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:52] yesyes (~yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) left irc: Quit: = gone [19:53] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:54] nachox (~Ignacio@OL147-242.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. 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[20:05] phrag: Patero-ng for [20:05] how t change the hour of the time [20:05] that doesnt help me.. Patero-ng just behave and play nice please [20:05] Patero-ng: put hand in ass, turn clockwise. [20:05] phrag: ask rworkman [20:05] lol [20:05] ban agentc0re he's inmoral [20:06] ah, agentc0re has the same isp as Patero-ng. lol [20:06] Patero-ng: man date [20:06] sahko: Ya. unfortunately. [20:06] ..and that wasnt a dating suggestion [20:06] am a man [20:09] smartasstronaut (~jay@adsl-240-69-200.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [20:10] y3llow_ (~y3llow@111-240-219-77.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [20:10] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.74.27) joined ##slackware. [20:11] am0rphis (~qwe@79.124.158.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:11] y3llow (~y3llow@111-240-216-241.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:12] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. 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[20:37] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [20:37] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [20:41] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-195-70.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:45] Cr1kk4 (fabio@93-45-116-62.ip102.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [20:45] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-195-70.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [20:45] el_lobo-1d-_-b (~Juan@201.244.131.153) joined ##slackware. [20:46] grey (~grey@vs1.svartalfheim.net) joined ##slackware. [20:46] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:46] heya [20:46] just realized that i cant download youtube videos anymore with those cool addons they made for that purpose [20:46] youtube evolved! [20:46] I'm trying to install 13.1, upgrading from 12.0, and I'm having a problem with I think the new udev method of harddrive naming [20:47] I have a system with 1 IDE drive, and 6 SATA drives, slackware is installed on the IDE drive and the 6 sata drives form an array for my data, To install I had to unplug one of the drives and put in a sata cd-rom to boot from, [20:47] am0rphis (~qwe@91.145.219.160) joined ##slackware. [20:47] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.114.195.187) left irc: Changing host [20:47] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [20:48] my IDE drive ended up labelled as /dev/sdf, but when I remove the cd drive and plug the sata harddrive back in, the root disk gets pushed back to /dev/sdg I think, [20:48] grey: changes and hints for slackware. must read. libata is your prob i tihnk [20:48] s/t****/think [20:48] well, that's not really a problem per-say, the problem is more general [20:49] lilo and /etc/fstab refer to the device as /dev/sdf, when they should say /dev/sdg, How can I point them to where they need to be? [20:50] fstab is easy enough, I just boot off the cd and relabel it, how about lilo? [20:50] post your lilo.conf and /etc/fstab [20:50] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: œ¿»Î½ »±²­ [20:50] :-\ [20:50] that's quite hard to do from a system that won't boot y'know :-( [20:51] hehehe, then boot it from rescue cd, or the dvd you have installed, then chroot in the system [20:51] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:52] you made a day gray :) [20:52] ok, the problem is if the bootable cd-rom is installed, then the device is effectively 'mislabelled' [20:52] :3 [20:52] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [20:52] ph|ber (~cking@c-75-66-7-36.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:53] but, if you boot the system, and post the lilo and fstab... [20:54] 2 ways: start over from 13.1 install, or hassle with chroot. your decision. [20:54] Action: pupit to beer or not to beer -> 3rd one [20:55] pupit: duh .. to beer. [20:55] hehe [20:55] I think I've got it, you were right about changes_and_hints.txt, I was able to override to the root argument to lilo at the lilo prompt (forgot I could do that!) [20:56] Nick change: el_lobo-1d-_-b -> emoctpeyet [20:56] The-Croupier1 (~Arbi@ip72-207-16-79.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:04] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [21:05] why'd you install 12.0 and not 13.1? [21:05] i used this command to start x = startx [21:05] did you do cd or dvd? if cd, did you do cd2? cause cd1 hasn't shipped with kde in awhile I believe [21:06] ph|ber (~cking@c-75-66-7-36.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:06] its says "could not start kupstartconfig check your installation" >> what can i do fot his [21:07] raela: this is dvd [21:08] raela: Any idea [21:08] opakavic: uhh, no, but again.. why 12.0? and have you tried googling that error? [21:09] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:09] opakavic: there, is, a, new, 13.1, version. [21:09] greetings and salutations [21:09] g & s andarius [21:10] raela, pupit , there is new version but i installed this and i can upgrade fro this [21:10] why not just install the latest? upgrading from there will suck [21:10] opakavic: google seems to think that the problem is with your home directory [21:10] either it does not exist or you don't own it [21:11] hmm [21:11] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [21:11] i'm looking for pkg system [21:11] what is the package management system for slack [21:11] slackpkg? [21:12] installpkg, removepkg, upgradepkg [21:12] slackpkg uses them [21:12] slackpkg isnt included by default in 12.0 [21:12] probably in extra/ [21:13] opakavic: are you logged in as root now? [21:13] First things first. See the Slackbook, /topic. [21:13] pupit: yes i'm in root login [21:13] opakavic: great! :) [21:13] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:14] pupit: O_o [21:14] i know that ircing using root login is worst thing, pupit [21:15] opakavic: ok, but you still ircing [21:15] yesterday i missed that foolproof installation,think that is the problem [21:16] i used menu mode to installation [21:17] give me a break, lemme search that in google for more solutions [21:17] :) config /etc/slackpkg/mirrors to your mirror site; # slackpkg install slackware && drink beer || coffee [21:17] that's all [21:18] i'll back [21:18] opakavic (~root@117.193.102.240) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:20] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:21] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [21:23] pupit: Got it all back up and running, Thanks for the pointer :) [21:24] grey: yay :) [21:24] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:26] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:28] grey (grey@vs1.svartalfheim.net) left ##slackware. [21:28] ok bitches [21:28] (dont laugh i am a noob) [21:29] i just wrote a script where you give category and name and it downloads the slackbuild, the source tarball, and installs it! [21:29] pretty sweet [21:29] EvanR: let me introduce you to sbopkg [21:29] i knew it [21:30] EvanR: http://www.sbopkg.org/ [21:31] bummer... [21:31] slackbuilds.org [21:31] theres no sbopkg slackbuild ;) [21:31] EvanR: yes there is :) [21:31] cant find it in slackbuilds.org [21:31] well, you can never have too many scripts... [21:32] EvanR: sbopkg.org [21:32] like i said :) [21:32] bah i wanted to use my script to install it ;) [21:32] lol [21:32] Anyone here use truecrypt? It seems my truecrypt has frozen and I don't know why. [21:33] screw it... *installs ghc* [21:33] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:34] http://codepad.org/Rj76iWus [21:34] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:35] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:36] eveing everybody [21:36] herro [21:36] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [21:37] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [21:37] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [21:39] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [21:42] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[22:01] guys i'm back again [22:01] woh3 (~will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [22:01] welcome back [22:02] did you read the slackbook that fast? [22:02] zaythan: Now the problem whenever i boot my system i dropped to tty1 >> terminal not to X [22:03] haha did they tell u to read the slackbook?? [22:03] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [22:03] zaythan: there is no time to read slackbook [22:03] zaythan: please gimme a solution [22:04] ._. [22:04] zaythan: what i want is, it should drop me in kdm not in terminal [22:04] if i feed u a fish i havent slove the problem of your hunger i merely have postloned it [22:04] s/solve/sloved [22:04] what is "postloned"? [22:04] opakavic: see /etc/inittab [22:04] solved also ;) [22:05] blah [22:05] Each time i have to use "startx" [22:05] i mess every thing hahah [22:05] it's not a bad way to go, opakavic... [22:05] it sounded smart when it was in my head [22:05] what if you wanted to go to terminal; what would you do? [22:05] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-153-255.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [22:05] type terminal [22:05] lol [22:05] lol [22:06] hey The-Croupier [22:06] hey shonudo ;) [22:07] stinky (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-waamllsxdkogyyis) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:07] sahko: yes i'm there in inittab now, what should i change [22:07] opakavic: read the file [22:07] sahko: read.... [22:07] stinky (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-qmggledgowmcimjp) joined ##slackware. [22:07] no time to read!!!!1 [22:07] :) [22:08] :( [22:08] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [22:08] slackware is all about doing things fast right [22:08] fast while you know what you are doing... [22:08] opakavic: this is the link you want it will tell u everything u need to know about slackware init http://www.bilbos-stekkie.com/slack_init/en/index.html [22:08] Action: andarius thought it was all about doing things sexy-like :| [22:08] apart from the fact that the conf is commented seven ways to sunday [22:08] not to mention its great read [22:09] like the bible [22:09] a page-burner [22:09] This thing is crazy>> gonna read now [22:09] shonudo: bad example..like the bible [22:09] well, it was a page burner for me [22:09] i needed to know how it turned out [22:09] haha there are thousands of commentaries on the bible [22:09] Budd^ (~budd@99.152.132.87) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:10] Budd^ (~budd@99.170.182.67) joined ##slackware. [22:10] i am a big fan of the bible pretty good book imho [22:10] maybe it's just me, but why boot into the DE automatically? [22:11] "startx" ... six letters, all with the left hand... [22:11] haha unless u use dvorak [22:11] lol [22:11] i dont use start x [22:11] better than a password protect against windows users [22:12] i use startx -- -nolisten tcp and other stuff ;) [22:12] :p [22:12] too many letters [22:12] hahah [22:12] omg...my hands are hurting me [22:12] i got rsi from all that, every time [22:12] i wont lie when i first started the command line was a scary place [22:12] because people want to see a log in screen with some naked bimbo which will never appear again because you never have to reboot anyway [22:12] opakavic (~chatzilla@117.193.102.240) left irc: Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.75.1 [SeaMonkey 1.1.2/2007060118] [22:13] lol@ EvanR [22:13] hahaha [22:13] thats gold [22:13] EvanR: lol [22:13] or you dont want to reboot again ;) [22:14] i havent rebooted or left X since installing slack last week [22:14] (and installing nvidia) [22:14] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:14] http://www.bilbos-stekkie.com/slack_init/en/init.html#SLACK-RUNLEVELS [22:14] damn...he left the room [22:15] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:15] hmmm....i had to leave X to restart it when i installed the graphics drivers [22:15] The-Croupier, now's your chance [22:15] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:15] hey man.... you wanted the startx right [22:15] http://www.bilbos-stekkie.com/slack_init/en/init.html#SLACK-RUNLEVELS [22:15] check that out.. might help [22:16] i think opakavic left [22:16] now that i think about it, The-Croupier, the ubuntu guy left, now opakavic.... [22:16] hmmmm.... [22:16] coincidence? [22:16] i think not. [22:17] shonudo: lol [22:17] lol [22:17] shonudo: this one..i didnt say anything to him... [22:17] didnt even write his name down...from what i remember [22:17] ;) [22:17] io? [22:17] lol [22:18] yes, ridout, let's keep track of The-Croupier victim list [22:18] io in greek means virus :p [22:18] so far, io and opakavic... [22:18] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:18] opakavic = might be russian for virus too [22:18] and both nicks have a strong "o" thing going... [22:18] coincidence? [22:18] so in fact...you owe me a favor [22:18] im getting all the viruses [22:19] well, yeah, it is probably a coincidence [22:19] it's funny what people key on when they start using a particular OS or distro... [22:19] like things that you can tell make them uncomfortable [22:20] or it's too unfamiliar [22:22] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [22:22] shonudo: what do you mean? [22:22] well, like not liking that the boot sequence doesn't automatically go to DE [22:22] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:22] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:22] so it's "a problem" [22:22] although it's really not a problem [22:23] a preference (as soon as he figures that part out) [22:23] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:23] but it bothers him [22:24] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:27] nachox (~Ignacio@OL147-242.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:32] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [22:34] woh3 (will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [22:36] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:38] zerafuze (~zerafuze@CPE00222d5ceeab-CM00222d5ceea7.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:38] _Strykar (~wakka@122.170.17.244) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:40] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.30.71) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:41] having a problem, whenever theres heavy disk usage or processing my X gets choppy and things dont run smoothly. in the old days this would be caused by not having dma working on the disk. now that im on a machine with sata, hdparm shows different things... anyone had this problem? [22:42] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.27.101) joined ##slackware. [22:42] EvanR, no, haven't run up against that... [22:42] could it be GPU/x related? [22:42] like drivers? [22:43] video drivers work fine they are fast for games [22:44] "heavy disk usage" ... why do you think it's the drive? [22:44] could be ram [22:44] could be a bum app... [22:44] does it happen with a particular app? [22:45] the app in this case is cp or tar or make [22:45] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:45] hmmm... [22:45] stunix (1000@85.19.141.139) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:45] stunix (1000@85.19.141.139) joined ##slackware. [22:45] using_dma = 1 (on) [22:45] odd [22:45] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) joined ##slackware. [22:45] i used to see this as (off) in the old days, turning it to on fixed the problem, but i dont even have that line. guess because its sata [22:46] Timing buffered disk reads: 104 MB in 3.03 seconds = 34.36 MB/sec [22:47] Timing cached reads: 864 MB in 2.00 seconds = 431.35 MB/sec [22:47] dunno :( [22:47] neither do i... [22:48] could it be a bad sata hdd? [22:48] who knows [22:48] worked fine before i installed slack [22:48] tuvok302Lappy (~Waffles@199.60.113.30) left irc: Quit: User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby [22:49] mwalling (mwalling@you.dontlike.us) left ##slackware. [22:49] tuvok302Lappy (~Waffles@199.60.113.30) joined ##slackware. [22:49] says RAM usage 15%, swap 3% [22:49] seems like everything should be fast. but if i open gimp, then close it, then open chrome, it takes forever [22:50] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [22:50] maybe its a kernel setting in the stock slack kernel [22:51] shell-fu (~shell-fu@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:52] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-156-019.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:53] davimint (~david@c-76-123-145-214.hsd1.ms.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:54] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:55] well there are benchmarking tools for this type of problems - have you tried hdparm (i m not sure if it works with SATA, or if you need other SATA specific tool ) [22:56] stunix (1000@85.19.141.139) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:00] 'sdparm' [23:01] ah [23:03] brianw (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:03] mbohun: i pasted some timing info, i dont know if its abnormal [23:03] Ya know, it takes.. hours for 300gb or so of stuff to be rsynced. [23:04] ah, that rsyncing feeling! [23:04] haha [23:04] brianw (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] riza: trust me, I know. I've been pulling data across the lan for a newly deployed machine. looks like ~166 gigs in ~5.25 hours (so far) [23:07] 100Mbit lan [23:07] something in the close order of 100 gigs to go [23:07] Hm is there a way to somehow utilize all 4 cores? [23:07] I mean tell it to use all 4 cores, like you can with compiling a software. [23:08] define 'it' [23:08] taskset, but it probably isn't cpu-bound [23:08] riza: it's unlikely cpu power would be the bottleneck [23:08] it's all i/o [23:08] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [23:08] it = rsync [23:09] what they said.. the network's the limit here [23:09] Dang. [23:09] You're right guys. [23:09] shell-fu (~shell-fu@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] bijit (~bijit@186.4.3.18) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:11] tuvok302Lappy (~Waffles@199.60.113.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:11] Does anyone here use truecrypt? Why does it show 1.4tb yet in the main window it shows my old partition size? [23:11] bijit (~bijit@186.4.3.18) joined ##slackware. [23:12] davimint (~david@c-76-123-145-214.hsd1.ms.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:15] stunix (1000@85.19.141.139) joined ##slackware. [23:18] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [23:21] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:24] stunix (1000@85.19.141.139) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:24] jhell_ (~89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) joined ##slackware. [23:25] Nick change: Dreams_Fest -> Yandertal [23:28] peter__ (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [23:28] jhell (~89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:28] Nick change: jhell_ -> jhell [23:28] illovae (~user@unaffiliated/illovae) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:30] Okay, I need to make a statement. I don't know who's responsible for it, but whoever saw fit to flood a "competing" channel with links and various other spam: please don't do that. It does *not* help matters. It just doesn't help. It makes it look like the spammed sites are responsible. [23:30] I say "competing" because it isn't, but the point should be clear. [23:30] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:31] :) [23:31] rworkman: it's more of a leech channel, to be honest. [23:31] no, leeches are successful. [23:32] I'd say it's more like a garbage channel. [23:32] Yep. That fits. [23:32] Action: rob0 looks forward to seeing this on a certain blog :) [23:33] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [23:33] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [23:36] Hm? Weird. [23:36] Hope noone is talking about me. [23:36] I always get pulled into drama somehow. [23:36] riza: no, not about you at all [23:36] Oh alright, sorry rworkman. [23:36] no, a guy who got banned after years of making trouble [23:37] Yeep! [23:37] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:37] stunix (1000@85.19.141.139) joined ##slackware. [23:38] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-156-019.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:42] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-156-019.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [23:46] ph|ber (~cking@c-75-66-7-36.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:47] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.81.186) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:51] Nick change: riza -> lfjob [23:53] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:57] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [23:58] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:58] anyone ever had any success installing darktable? (someone needs to break the silence) [23:58] lee555J5 (~lee555J5@71-91-74-243.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:59] So now I have two rsyncs going from the same source to two different areas. [23:59] Hm. [00:00] --- Tue Jul 27 2010