[00:01] http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=1895 <--- LOL [00:01] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.78.174) joined ##slackware. [00:07] Do you have /etc/login.defs.new ? [00:09] DareDevil0 (~Secret@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:09] Hi [00:09] dios_mio (dios@88.243.192.31) left irc: [00:09] hi [00:09] if i install Lilo [00:10] Nick change: tuvok302Lappy -> tuvok302 [00:10] gm152, yeah, i already fixed it [00:11] but, usually, keeping your old config files (especially if you've made changes to them), isn't a bad thing [00:11] in this case, it generates odd warnings [00:12] in general, i keep my old configs, since i know they work (especially things like smb.conf) [00:12] And I don't think it's an issue as the corrected package does what it's supposed to. [00:12] Axtroz (1000@77.78.15.8) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:12] i mean if i install Slackware 13.0 and i had in that computer windows 7 and also ubuntu when i overwrite the MBR with Lilo will Lilo add to the table Windows 7 and Ubuntu? [00:12] it's not a showstopper, but it'd be nice to have a warning that the config file for shadow-utils should be updated [00:13] The first shadow package had to be corrrected because it contained /etc/login.defs which when upgraded would overwrite the present /etc/login.defs which isn't desirable. [00:13] DareDevil0, you would have to let lilo detect them [00:14] But will lilo detect them? [00:14] why isn't it desireable, if it generates strange warning messages? [00:14] Axtroz (1000@77.78.15.8) joined ##slackware. [00:14] it should DareDevil0 [00:14] You *will* get a warning: [00:14] configuration error - unknown item 'DIALUPS_CHECK_ENAB' (notify administrator) [00:14] configuration error - unknown item 'NOLOGIN_STR' (notify administrator) [00:14] Channel flood from rworkman -- kicking [00:14] agentc0re: pong [00:14] rworkman kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [00:14] Axtroz (1000@77.78.15.8) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:14] I mean i don't want to kill my grub knowing that slack will not add those partition to Lilo [00:14] rworkman (3356@connie.slackware.com) joined ##slackware. [00:14] Then you have to merge the /etc/login.defs.new file into /etc/login.defs [00:14] FOAD, slackboy :) [00:14] robbie, that's what i was saying [00:15] i was getting those warnings, and i didn't know where it came from [00:15] i tracked it down to the login.defs file (after quite a bit of google'ing) [00:16] and i was suggesting that it should be noted that those warnings will occur if you don't update login.defs during a slackpkg upgrade [00:16] Necos, if i install Lilo with the Slackware Live DVD Lilo will detect Ubuntu and Windows 7 in the computer? [00:16] i don't know, as i don't use either... [00:16] but you don't have to install lilo in to the MBR [00:17] ok well i guess i better will add Slackware to the grub [00:17] You probably have a bunch of *.new files in /etc and its subdirectories. [00:17] that will work just dandy [00:17] DareDevil0: lilo will boot just about anything [00:17] slackpkg usually cleans them up [00:17] or suggests that you do [00:17] It's not desirable in case you have custom entries which would be wiped out after a package upgrade. [00:17] gm152, i probably do [00:18] shonudo, I am sorry what do you mean by that? [00:18] then note that there are deprecated options in previous versions of the login.defs file and they should be removed to avoid warnings... :P [00:18] DareDevil0: i've had it booting slackware, windows, and a variety of other distros (opensuse, ubuntu, yoper, etc) [00:19] DareDevil0: since you already have GRUB it sounds like, just stick with it [00:20] ok i have grub 2 and when i did update-grub from Ubuntu the Grub add me a lot of Slackware entries and only the one before the last one and the last one work [00:20] Standard advice is to move/merge .new configs - I'm not sure I agree with another warning about it. I'll bring it up with the group though [00:20] it should at least be added to the changes_and_hints, like the warning about asound.state [00:20] and since grub 2 doesn't have menu.lst is impossible to remove the others also the other entries boot with panic kernel [00:21] Quite possibly, Necos; I'll bring it up for discussion :) [00:21] thanks :) i already emailed PV about it [00:21] zed_DX (~kvirc@189.164.114.140) joined ##slackware. [00:21] I'm in the same boat that I agree with your recommendations, Necos. [00:22] i mean, i already got hit with the libata thing :) [00:22] that one was completely my fault though... i forgot about it when i upgraded to -current [00:22] :) [00:22] DareDevil0, i'm a bit lost when it comes to grub; is there a config file of some sort you can edit? [00:23] i had a very big paperweight for a few hours while i was studying :P [00:23] i'm up against the wall again.. the raid /dev/md0 is built using raid autodetect partitions formatted as reiserfs which fsck thinks is ok and mounts without a hitch. but when i reboot /dev/md0 is gone and after assembling the array --examine /dev/md0 tells me that there's no superblock detected on /dev/md0. any help most apreciated. [00:24] well there was in grub 1 but now in grub two there is not, i will see if i can find info in google about editing grub 2, but anyway, why there are two entries that start the kernel in panic when i use it? [00:25] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:26] DareDevil0, all i can think of is an error in the entry; a mis-identifed / partition or something [00:27] off_tr4mp0__ (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) joined ##slackware. [00:27] shonudo, well i guess so, when you use lilo with only slackware OS in the computer does lilo give yo two entries? [00:27] keres (~keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:27] or only one? [00:28] DareDevil0: mine gives one [00:28] echtts_ (~echtts@201-27-184-215.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:28] DareDevil0: i have one [00:29] you probably should have more than one [00:29] (IMO [00:30] uuhmmm rear [00:30] uuuhhmmm rare i mean [00:30] ha [00:31] echtts (~echtts@201-27-183-130.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:31] Action: NaCl uses grub2 and has three entries [00:33] jack bauer got own3d [00:34] how so ? [00:34] DareDevil0: If there are other OSs installed prior to Slackware, then you will definitely get more than one entriy. [00:34] fsilva (~fsilva@201.86.43.203.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:34] show's been cancelled, this season is the last [00:34] ang|laptop (18fa10a2@gateway/web/freenode/x-ffynmwchvodkrptp) left ##slackware. [00:35] 24 mancha? [00:35] yeah [00:36] yep, 24 [00:36] well thanks anyway i kill three wrong entries and work done [00:36] he [00:36] i deleted from grub 2 menu [00:37] there's a new option for dhcpcd? [00:38] thanks everybody [00:38] DareDevil0, does it work as expected? [00:39] yeap [00:39] good deal! [00:39] ha yeap thanks body [00:41] fsilva (~fsilva@201.86.43.203.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:43] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.239) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:48] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) joined ##slackware. [00:53] well, back to quantum mechanics... later folks [00:53] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) left irc: Changing host [00:53] notKlaatu (~klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [00:53] does anybody knows the name of the module bcm4312 for a wireless network card? [00:54] b43 sort of supports that [00:54] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 [00:55] * BCM4312 802.11b/g, AKA BCM 4310 USB - This device has an LP PHY. Work on this device has begun, and the device now works in wireless-testing (and will be supported in 2.6.32), but performance is sub-par, due to the lack of calibration support. Note: This card uses the PCI-E bus, despite its name [00:57] DareDevil0: wl.ko [00:58] thank you i will check [00:59] DareDevil0: i have the source for the drivers somewhere online if you can't find it, but i got it from broadcom's site. [01:00] ok i will see [01:00] http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php [01:01] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:02] rworkman: i got banned again the other day in here because patro-ng is on the same subnet as me :/ anyway i can be made as an exclusion? [01:02] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@unaffiliated/raph0x88) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:05] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:15] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.198.84) joined ##slackware. [01:26] tuvok302 (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt3-port-252.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [01:26] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:29] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-57-48.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [01:30] why cant they just be more specific with parto-ng's ip [01:30] beep [01:30] If i load the correct module for a wireless card once i do it by using modprobe the interface should appears in the ifconfig command output? [01:31] ifconfig wlan0 up [01:31] or whatever the device should be called [01:31] ifup works too [01:31] what i am asking is that if the interface should appears in the ifconfig output [01:32] no it doesnt [01:32] illovae (~user@unaffiliated/illovae) joined ##slackware. [01:32] i only have eth0 which is my ethernet interface but no the wlan0 [01:32] the interface is down when you first load the driver before it is configured [01:33] it should appear in iwconfig [01:33] ok if i do ifconfig wlan0 shows up and error [01:33] once i load the driver? [01:33] or i have to do something else? [01:33] yes, iWconfig not iFconfig [01:33] wlan0 no such device [01:34] when iwconfig [01:34] so it's no good. [01:34] i know you could tell the interface to turn on like i already said [01:34] what did dmesg say after modprobing? [01:36] DareDevil0: su -c 'modprobe wl.ko' [01:37] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-14.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [01:38] or su -c 'modprobe ./path/to/wl.ko' [01:39] echtts_ (~echtts@201-27-184-215.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:39] wl.ko not found [01:39] i think the driver is not the correct one [01:39] what driver did you modprobe? [01:39] b43 [01:39] but is not working [01:40] i guess i should look for the one notKlaatu is telling me [01:40] yeah i am sure. many problems a) you didn't get the firmware i bet b) do we know if you have a suppoted 4312 or an unsupportted 4312? [01:40] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [01:41] echtts (~echtts@201-93-236-165.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:42] yeap is supported i found it [01:42] but i have not the right firmware [01:43] i will search [01:43] firmware cutter is what you are looking for DareDevil0 [01:43] i think from berlios [01:44] right is for bm43xx [01:44] that could work [01:44] i will try to install it [01:45] what is the vendor id for you card? [01:45] mancha, how can i know that? [01:45] something like 14e4:43xx [01:46] but using which command? [01:46] lspci? [01:46] yeah [01:46] do lspci | grep 4312, and remember the first number xx:yy.z [01:46] 0c:00.0 [01:46] then re-do lspci -n and lookup that same xx:yy.z [01:47] 0c:00.0 [01:47] i want an answer like: 14e4:43xx [01:47] if it ain't that then donuts gimme ok? [01:48] Action: raela gives mancha donuts [01:49] lspci -n | grep 14e4 [01:49] 14e4:4315 [01:49] how did you know the first digits? [01:49] eureka!!@# [01:50] magic [01:50] you're in luck, your card is fully supported in 2.6.32 and higher [01:50] i have 2.6.29.6-smp installed [01:51] i have to upgrade the kernel i guess [01:51] then you're not in luck, you have some work cut out for you [01:51] ha [01:51] a) upgrade kernel b) get cards firmware with b43-cutter c) get wireless joy [01:51] how do i upgrade the kernel if this computer is not connected to the internet? [01:51] usb stick? [01:51] alternative, get the broadcom sta driver i posted the link for earlier. [01:52] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.78.174) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [01:52] which was sorry [01:52] ? [01:52] http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php [01:52] you're on the net here... go to kernel.org [01:52] download and compile [01:52] h4ngedm4n (~h4ngedm4n@pool-71-104-6-87.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:53] good welcome to linux ha [01:53] ok i will try [01:53] and tell you [01:53] by using some tutorial or something like that [01:53] i would use b43 on an upgraded kernel versus the broadcom sta driver but that's just me [01:53] DareDevil0, where are you from; i detect an accent (if such a thing is possible on irc)? [01:54] why? [01:54] i am sure the broadcom sta driver doesn't send all your credit card info to broadcom, just some of it. [01:54] shonudo, you are detecting well i am cuban [01:54] hombre, hablas castellano? [01:54] cuban in cuba or cuban in u.s.? [01:54] shonudo, cuban in usa since two months [01:54] exile? [01:55] how did you escape? [01:55] cierto que halbas espanol [01:55] ?que haces aqui? [01:55] come on let speak of something else, people scape from devil all the time [01:55] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [01:55] shonudo, claro que hablo espanol [01:55] how in the world do you detect cuban accents [01:55] shonudo, estoy aprendiendo linux que mas [01:55] e ingles a la vez [01:56] vale [01:56] bienvenido [01:56] DareDevil0: slackbook.org has a pretty good section on compiling kernels if you need it. [01:56] muchas gracias [01:56] well, you have to admit, speaking to someone who escaped cuba isn't too common on ##slackware, so we're curious [01:56] notKlaatu, thank you [01:56] did you bring back any cigars? [01:56] lol [01:56] lmao [01:56] thanks everybody for the help you are giving to a cuban ha [01:57] were you granted political asylum? did you leave cuba on legitimate purposes like sports or music exchanges and defect? did you banana boat the 90 miles? what? please be detailed. [01:57] i don't smoke but actually i brought two cubans tobaccos [01:57] DareDevil0: why wouldn't we? [01:57] i know there is nothing against me is just talking [01:57] how do you see my english by the way is it getting better? [01:58] your english looks great to me [01:58] well thanks [01:58] i wanna know the details of you leaving the island [01:58] i don't think cuba is on lock down going OUT, just for US citizens going IN [01:58] Have you ever play Run away Graphic Adventure? [01:59] lo hablas bien, DareDevil0 [01:59] and that's only because of the USA embargo'ing them and making it illegal for us to go in [01:59] shonudo, bueno espero que si porque me va a hacer falta hermano [01:59] tio, no te preocupes [01:59] notKlaatu, if it were easy to leave legally i think they'd be population 2 [01:59] vas mas que bien [01:59] shonudo, you are able to enter in cuba [01:59] anytime [01:59] the bearded dude and his brother [01:59] you want [02:00] gracias, DareDevil0 [02:00] notKlaatu, you can go to cuba anytime [02:00] mancha: i would say the same of L.A. yet people live there [02:00] DareDevil0: yeah, by way of some other country [02:00] american citizens can go to cuba [02:00] yes but we are not permitted to go directly to cuba from us soil [02:01] notKlaatu, no you don't need to go to other country [02:01] DareDevil0: um, tell that to teh feds [02:01] notKlaatu, of course you do [02:01] the restriction from the u.s. side is on spending money not on flights [02:01] indeed [02:01] notKlaatu, well at least i have friends here in usa that goes to cuba directly [02:01] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:02] ok, that's news to me. i have a number of friends who have gone but had to go in a round-about way [02:02] notKlaatu, the problem is that maybe when you come back to the usa you will have not some rights but i am not really sure which one [02:02] notKlaatu, by way of the maple leaf? [02:02] anyway on what me counts you are all welcome to cuba [02:02] how did you get out? [02:03] mancha, I already answer you, have you ever play Run Away adventure? [02:03] MLanden: i don't remember. [02:03] hahah [02:03] no i haven't played [02:03] y la situacion en cuba, ?como lo enquentras? ?y por que estas aqui? [02:03] mancha, if you play it you will know how to go out of cuba [02:03] haha [02:03] ok night [02:03] crazy cubans [02:03] notKlaatu, ok [02:04] shonudo, estoy aqui porque no estoy de acuerdo con el gobierno en mi pais y la situacion con la libertad esta de muerte, y no hay libertad de expresion etc etc, pero el pais es maravilloso muy lindo sobre todo las playas [02:04] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [02:04] MLanden: i want to say they went via brasil or something, but...not sure. [02:04] notKlaatu, you are almost right [02:05] yeah, usually i am... almost right. [02:05] billy (~billy@genkt-050-036.t-mobile.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:05] I went out when i obtain a visa from other country close to usa [02:05] then i jump the paddle (cross the border) [02:05] is this channel related to httpd and if so who is a mod [02:05] notKlaatu, had a friend who left that way for a tour of the Greater Antilles(think it was Cuba,Jamaica and either Caymans or Bahamas) [02:06] billy: lol whut [02:06] USA is a wonderful country you people should come here sometime [02:06] billy, now can you say that in english? [02:06] the one that are not leaving here of course [02:06] lmao is this an apache channel? [02:06] pense (y, por lo visto, lo pense mal) que la situacion en cuba estaba cambiando [02:07] ok i will try to install my new kernel [02:07] now thats not english lol [02:07] this is the slackware linux distribution channel [02:07] ok do you know anything about apache per chance? [02:07] yes some. [02:07] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.72.131) joined ##slackware. [02:07] as do many others i am sure who run or admin web servers [02:08] ive downloaded it but when i type in my ip it wont connect i just get a blank page? [02:08] billy: specific apache questions might be better asked in #httpd also. [02:08] so you try http://127.0.0.1 and you get a black page? [02:08] ive been banned from httpd for asking a question [02:08] billy: did they tell you why they banned you? [02:09] mancha no i get a page using local but cannot connect using a different pc [02:09] he started asking about slackware in there [02:09] 22:49 <@thumbs> billy: use your private IP instead. [02:09] 22:49 < billy> whats that? [02:09] 22:49 < gnot> thumbs: ok. thanks [02:09] Channel flood from billy -- kicking [02:09] 22:49 <@thumbs> billy: man ifconfig [02:09] 22:49 < billy> my local? [02:09] 22:50 < billy> where do i type that? [02:09] billy kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [02:09] lol [02:09] haha [02:09] thumbs is here tooheh [02:09] mancha, why you preferred cutter driver instead of sta? [02:10] billy (~billy@genkt-050-036.t-mobile.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:10] Dare, because my preference is for open source versus proprietary stuff. and i like to support open source initiatives of which b43 is one [02:10] plus it is already in the kernel so i don't need ot compile and add in a separate module [02:10] sorry got kicked for that aswell lol but thats why [02:11] any ideas mancha? [02:11] mancha, is it already in the 2.6.33.1 kernel? [02:11] i didn't know b43 was doing 4312 now. i'm going to try it when i get back to the box with 4312 on it. [02:11] because that is the one i am going to download [02:11] you have to tell apache to listen on the public ip [02:12] 2.6.32 or higher [02:12] how do i do that sorry ima a bit of a noob [02:12] billy: seems like you need to do some reading still. if you don't understand the principles or the steps to troubleshoot/get there(basic stuff), all we'd be doing is telling you how to do it... basically holding your hand. [02:12] mancha which one do you recommend me? [02:13] the last one or the 2.6.32 [02:13] the most recent [02:13] i know how to open apache in the shell? [02:13] mancha ok thank you [02:13] welcome [02:14] and i know its sudo nano somthing somthing thats where my mind gos blank [02:14] mancha, full source? [02:14] to compile? [02:14] where did you tell you have a guide to install it? [02:14] slackbook.org is the one i learned from, DareDevil0 [02:15] Daredevil, compiling your own kernel is not the easiest thing to do - be sure to read a good guide. i don't have a suggestion for this. [02:15] billy, what is your listen line like? [02:15] ok lost agian lol [02:15] notKlaatu, oohh ok i will try thank you [02:15] DareDevil0: read slackbook.org's section on it, then check out the kernel section on slackermedia.info although you can disregard the "realtime" portions of it [02:16] ok [02:16] and DO NOT get rid of your current, working kernel! you'll most likely need that later after you screw up your new one... :) [02:16] its not working now when i try to open apache it just comes up with a list of commands that i cant use [02:16] billy, you need to read a basic apache config guide. you should have httpd.conf somewhere. [02:17] Axius (~fd@92.82.72.15) joined ##slackware. [02:17] DareDevil0, you can do the following: make xconfig (very GUI, very nice), decide what you want to include/exclude (hours of fun), make bzImage, make modules, make modules_install, cp bzImage to boot [02:17] notKlaatu, hahahaha i will screw it up since i have never done this [02:17] billy: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/ [02:18] the first time shouldn't take more than a week or so [02:18] DareDevil0: it was a wireless card that prompted me to compile my first kernel, and i'd only been using linux for a week at the time, so you may as well go for it. it's definitely a good thing to know. [02:18] shonudo, i don't have GUI installed [02:18] billy: what version of slackware are you using? [02:18] ok [02:18] slackware? [02:18] i have ubuntu [02:19] ok that's my cue - bbl [02:19] mancha what do you mean by that? [02:20] billy: you trying to set up a site ? [02:20] DareDevil0, this may also be of use to you http://www.slackware-es.com/slackbook/book.html [02:20] when i installed itr it said cannot determine somthing using xx.xxx.xxxx.xx [02:20] billy: you know you are in the slackware channel right? [02:20] yep [02:20] yes theve blocked me from httpd [02:20] what site? do you have the domain name yet ? [02:20] you dont mind od you? [02:20] billy, go to #ubuntu [02:20] yep [02:20] billy: so, does common sense not tell you to go to #ubuntu ? [02:21] xdan779 (~daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:21] no-one here can help :( [02:21] billy: no, it's not that. [02:21] thanks ml4711 [02:21] thanks MLanden [02:21] ha [02:21] billy: well... yes it is and isn't. The problem is, ubuntu does things totally different than how slackware does things. [02:21] billy, ubunti takes people and destroys their outlook of linux. then they come here and start college with a 1st grade edumacation about linux. [02:22] DareDevil0, np..good luck [02:22] agentc0re was the last ubunti user welcomed.. and he's 3rd grade right now [02:22] there is a new distro of ubuntu is called shitbuntu Karmic Koala [02:22] jeev i dont have a clue what that means [02:22] DareDevil0, that sounds like it'll give me diarrhea [02:23] billy, do you know the difference between elementary school and college ? [02:23] yes [02:23] ubunti is elementary school [02:23] billy: Ya, don't listen to him. Do you know what an attention whore is? [02:23] agentc0re, die! [02:23] lmao [02:23] jeev: oh, sorry. s/attention// [02:23] agentc0re, thanks for clearing that up [02:24] jeev: anytime. [02:24] Action: jeev shakes his thang [02:24] can i anyone here help then?? [02:24] billy: plus, ubuntu has some pretty good documentation to walk newcomers through how to do basic stuff. do you know how to google search? [02:24] billy: No, #ubuntu or bust. [02:25] come on please you guys obviously know what your talking about? [02:25] billy: are you trying to set up a site or just learn about apache? [02:25] billy: wait, you need help with httpd? [02:26] yep [02:26] ive downloaded apache m trying to set up a site but when i type my ip in the adress bar on the internet it comes up blank [02:27] what site? [02:27] is apache running ? [02:27] okay, that's easy .. go to http://www.slackware.com/getslack/ and download the DVD or the first three CD's from any given mirror. Install slackware and set things up and read the SlackBook. If you still have any problems with httpd .. come back :) [02:27] yes apaches running it works on local [02:27] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:27] BP{k} mean [02:27] billy: so your saying it works if you do http://localhost [02:27] im using ubuntu [02:27] gaz- yes [02:27] billy: is this #ubuntu? [02:27] billy: right, and this is a slackware channel [02:28] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [02:28] weve been through this lol [02:28] billy: yes, and you don't seem to get that point. [02:28] billy is apache bound to listen on all interfaces [02:28] this is a *slackware* channel where we offer suppotr for _slackware_. [02:29] people carried on offering help when i said come on please you guys obviously know what your talking about? [02:29] there is a help fee if you dont use slackware. [02:29] ha [02:29] 1 sheevaplug per active user [02:29] yeah! [02:29] jeev: uhm .. [02:29] billy, listen to what gaz is saying [02:29] ok, a fleshlight for BP{k} [02:29] jeev: due to inflation that has been upgraded to 1 guruplug per actvie user. [02:29] what'd i miss :P [02:30] im going to [02:30] billy, maybe debian might be of better assistance to you with apache since the daemons used by ubuntu are also debian [02:30] newslacker (kc@72-161-171-43.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware. [02:30] jeev: too damn right and don't forget those virgins you already owe me. [02:30] ive sent you a pm gaz [02:30] billy: Just as BP{k} said: Install Slackware, and then come back here. We will help you then. [02:30] lol BP{k} [02:30] what does mrproper do? [02:30] clean * [02:30] in kernel source i guess [02:30] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.83) joined ##slackware. [02:31] make proper, make dep, and make clean are obsolete, iirc [02:31] echtts (~echtts@201-93-236-165.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:31] no matter, it will tell you (warn you) that they are obsolete commands [02:33] echtts (~echtts@201-27-183-236.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:34] i think those are all related to a recompile, not the first compile [02:34] BP{k}, showed your picture to the virgins, they said not in a million years [02:35] jeev: next week thus will be acceptable ;) [02:35] BP{k}, i looked at the pic too man you need more than a week [02:36] to be hones [02:36] t [02:36] zed_DX (~kvirc@189.164.114.140) left irc: Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net [02:37] jeev: you're just jealous because BP{k} wouldn't make you his Nullo. [02:38] a little question where should i copy and uncompressed the kernel i downloaded? [02:38] sick [02:38] DareDevil0, didnt you get the kernel sources with your slack install ? [02:39] DareDevil0: i always put it in /usr/src/linux-x.x.xx.x [02:39] yeap in /usr/src/ [02:39] shoudl i delete the ones i have there? [02:39] NO [02:39] you will want that later, trust me [02:39] keep those, DareDevil0 [02:39] only cp the new one and uncompress it? [02:40] just cp the bzImage to /boot [02:40] DareDevil0: there is a good guide for kernel compiling on the slackwiki. you'll want to link that src to the linux dir also in /usr/src. [02:42] then you'll need to reconfigure lilo (if you're using lilo) or grub to boot the new kernel [02:42] shonudo, i will have to reconfigure grub [02:44] i have a dumb question (for anyone, everyone): why grub instead of lilo? [02:45] i will use menuconfig seens easier to use than the others [02:45] and i don't have X [02:45] to use other [02:45] shonudo: grub2 can boot from .iso files on the harddrive, apparently. sounds slick. that said, i use lilo... [02:46] thanks notKlaatu... [02:46] wasn't sure if there was an advantage. [02:47] LSD` (~ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [02:49] echtts_ (~echtts@201-27-183-236.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[02:59] for the kernel compilation [03:00] agentc0re, well actually not in the kernel guide [03:00] i think tar.gz is xzvf, bz2 is xjvf [03:00] hang on [03:00] billy (~billy@genkt-050-036.t-mobile.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:00] yup, xjvf for bz2 [03:01] ok [03:01] so "tar -xjvf" [03:02] shonudo, done [03:02] is doing it right now [03:02] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:02] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) joined ##slackware. [03:02] ufff a lot of files [03:03] tar xvf will do tar.bz2, tar.gz, tar.xz ... [03:03] i just realized, thanks to the fact that you asked, how much of what i type into a terminal is "muscle memory" [03:04] as soon as someone asks "what's the command for this or that?", i'm at a loss for a moment [03:05] Axius (~fd@92.82.72.15) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:09] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:14] i am building the kernel [03:15] you configured it already ? [03:15] yeap [03:16] cool [03:16] well i hope is good [03:16] configured [03:16] yeah well, you'll see soon enough. [03:17] is taking a while [03:17] i did not do many changes actually [03:17] yes, that's a good policy [03:17] can configure a kernel in a wrong way kill my hardware? [03:17] i hope not. [03:18] ha [03:18] cuz i've misconfigured plenty of kernels in my time [03:18] i will tell you if something gets on fire [03:18] so that you can call 911 [03:18] haha ok [03:19] notKlaatu, are you here in the USA? [03:19] yeah [03:19] Which state? [03:19] NY [03:19] Whaoooooo [03:19] I want to go to new york [03:19] i love it [03:20] and i have never gone there [03:20] well i have been here for only two months actually [03:20] it is a nice place although i think perhaps people give it too much credit [03:20] oh two months only, wow. [03:20] yeap [03:20] i am just starting [03:21] why did you choose usa ? [03:21] of course that is easy for you to know where i am now isn't it? [03:21] DareDevil0: did you start make already? [03:21] asamoah (~caio@190.244.58.157) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:21] agentc0re, yes i am waiting [03:21] DareDevil0: ah, how many cores does your cpu have? [03:22] well i hope nobody is going to be offended for what i will say but is the best country in the world [03:22] new york is gay [03:22] everyone in new york is gay [03:22] DareDevil0, where you from originally [03:22] ha jeev love to be joking all the time [03:22] Cuba [03:22] cool [03:22] he's not joking [03:23] what? [03:23] DareDevil0: ah, how many cores does your cpu have? [03:23] DareDevil0, castro was happy obama passed a health care bill [03:23] notKlaatu, then what is he doing? [03:23] DareDevil0, new yorkers think they're the shit while they're not [03:23] Dual Core, two cores and done!!!!!!!!!!!!!! already finished [03:23] anyway, that's enough ruckus, bye [03:24] DareDevil0: you can always do a make -j5 (5 jobs instead of just one) [03:24] notKlaatu, are really many gays in New York? [03:24] agentc0re, and will do the job faster? [03:24] DareDevil0: it can, yes. it really can all depend. [03:25] DareDevil0: i don't know but jeev is correct about new yorkers thinkinkg they are great [03:26] new york is just a city. it's not magical or anything. people seem to think it's significant to be in new york. it is not. [03:26] notKlaatu, uuhhmm, well i want to go there anyway, i think is a nice city, i want to cross the big bridge and go to the statue of liberty [03:26] compiling a kernel, now that's magical [03:26] it is a nice city [03:26] I'd hate to be there during a hurricane [03:27] and they have good conventions, like bagel and coffee carts on the street in the morning, and a good subway system, and that stuff [03:27] what does copy system.map does? [03:27] good pizza [03:27] yeah great pizza [03:27] really? [03:27] yeah [03:28] that is pretty much all I eat when I go there [03:28] I like pizza, actually my shape can tell you that [03:28] asamoah (~caio@190.244.58.157) joined ##slackware. [03:29] well if you anytime go to cuba don't forget to visit the beaches because my friend they are the best in the world [03:29] Varadero is the best beach in the world really [03:29] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [03:29] DareDevil0: thanks for the tip, too bad it isn't easier to visit Cuba from the US [03:30] is easy i don't know why you people all the time tell me is difficult [03:31] i have many friends that has gone to cuba here in the usa [03:34] ok i already finish i will check if work [03:34] i will reboot [03:34] um wait [03:34] did you reconfigure grub [03:35] that is what i am going to do now from debian [03:35] before starting slackware [03:35] ah ok [03:35] and you compiled all the modules ? [03:35] i guess so [03:35] i hope so [03:35] cool [03:35] go for it. [03:37] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-200.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. 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[03:57] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:58] the only one i have noew [03:58] now [03:58] because i clean every other config file [03:59] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-42-248.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:59] agentc0re, when menuconfig creates a config file where is it stored? [03:59] in which directory? [04:00] agentc0re, ? [04:02] hello is anybody there? [04:06] copy the huge config from /boot to your /usr/src/linux dir. But before you do that, in the /usr/src/linux dir, run make mrproper [04:07] DareDevil0: please send me a link to the guide you are looking at to build your kernel. [04:08] http://slackwiki.org/Kernel_Compilation [04:10] You mean the Initial RAM filesystem and RAM disk (initramfs/initrd) support? i have to unchek it? [04:12] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. 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[07:59] tsccof (~tsccof@201-35-179-100.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [08:00] /dev are your devices are mounted, this is not related to storage disks, which fdisk manages. [08:01] jakemills: what do you have setup that uses devicemapper? LVM? LUKS? [08:02] tsccof (~tsccof@189.74.211.177) joined ##slackware. [08:03] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [08:04] It must have been setup by fedora without me knowing about it [08:04] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:05] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [08:07] jakemills: well, if you don't need them it's easy. Just proceed as if they do not exist [08:07] but that will break your fedora install [08:09] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host81-152-55-19.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:09] The-Croupier (~ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [08:10] greetings guys...i have this hdd 1T, but its got some windows files in it...i mounted it..and i get that it is readonly...:( after just mounting the device..i see no files in it..i know for a fact its got files.... [08:11] what software do i need to check,fix,see the files...:( [08:11] i have a fresh install...havent configured anything to my slackbox yet :( [08:11] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-155-231-32.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [08:11] ntfs-3g [08:11] and are you sure you're even mounting the right partition? [08:11] ananke: you mean mount it that way? [08:11] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-210-161.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:12] mount -t ntfs-3g [08:12] ananke: yes ;) [08:12] alisonken1home: thanks [08:12] just in case there is something wrong with the disk, what might i need to download [08:12] you might want to cfdisk to make sure of partitions first [08:12] i have limited time onliine ;) im at work :( [08:12] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-210-161.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [08:13] boss is going to kill me if he sees me with laptop on ;) and online [08:14] ntfs_mst_post_read_fixup: magic: 0x454c4946 size: 4096 usa_ofs: 48 usa_count: 2: Invalid argument [08:14] Actual VCN (0x1003800010001) of index buffer is different from expected VCN (0x0). [08:14] right seems there is something else going on ;) [08:15] Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Input/output error [08:15] jakemills (~jakemills@95.144.107.129) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [08:15] i also get that it might be a softraid/fakeraid hw, or something...:( [08:16] damn.... i think i might need more tools that the default... ill check sbo or something...could you name something i could look for? or how to approach this? [08:17] yeah. start by telling us what you think is on that drive and posting fdisk -l [08:18] /dev/sdb1 * 1 121601 976760001 7 HPFS/NTFS [08:18] win files, backup files [08:18] external hdd, 1T, Maxtor [08:21] im checking testdisk from sbo...:( any ideas..of anything else/ [08:23] mount it on windows. [08:23] looks like the filesystem is damaged [08:25] ananke: i tried...it cannot do anything [08:25] ananke: you know windows cannot do anything :p [08:25] ;) [08:25] whatever [08:26] if you had a working filesystem, you wouldn't be in this mess. don't blame it on windows [08:27] i didnt blame it on anyone ;) that is not my purpose...on the other hand..i need to fix it somehow... [08:27] i just need a boost as it concerns tools,ideas...etc... i will try... [08:28] what did you do to it? when was it working? [08:28] you can't attempt fixing something unless you have some kind of vague idea of what's broken [08:28] ananke: first of all, lets start good! it's not mine...its a friends, i dont have windows in my house ;) [08:28] as far as we know it may be a dying drive, or you wiped the data from it then unplugged the drive [08:29] you don't have to have windows to have ntfs [08:29] ananke: true ;) [08:29] so find out from your friend as much as you can as to what happened [08:29] nope, i have as much of an idea of whats wrong with it, as a user would give ;) [08:30] dios_mio (dios@88.242.170.205) joined ##slackware. [08:30] he only knows that, he plugged it in one day, and it said it was full, and readonly ;) and no files whatsoever ;) [08:30] brb...check some more tools or something to do with disks ;) [08:31] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-206.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [08:31] again, finding tools without the problem is like collecting hammers without a real goal [08:32] Action: Delahunt agrees [08:32] there are plenty of hammers to fix that have problems that are real [08:33] Action: Delahunt hears a pin drop [08:34] Action: lw0x15 farts all over [08:34] i like slackwarez! [08:35] echtts_ (~echtts@201-93-237-178.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:35] d[-.-]b [08:37] echtts (~echtts@189-18-90-61.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:39] agree ;) [08:39] any ideas where to start? [08:41] also i got this for some reason, :( starting to worry now: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables [08:41] trying to compile libewf :( [08:43] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [08:43] C00re (hard@unaffiliated/c00re) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [08:50] damn, i think there is something wrong with my c compiler...:( [08:50] again, what did you do? [08:50] i cannot compile mkpkgs... :( [08:50] was it always like this/fresh install, or did it suddenly break? [08:51] downloaded dar, and libewf, and i havent tried compiling something yet ;) imagine... [08:51] first time ;) [08:51] so you haven't compiled anything before on that install? [08:51] i have no clue if it suddenly brake or was like this...;) since first pkg trying [08:51] The-Croupier: read the slackbuilds.org faq for x86_64 [08:51] ananke: nope [08:52] The-Croupier: check if you have binutils installed [08:52] sahk0: ok ;) maybe im doing something wroong [08:52] ananke: yep, ;) [08:52] The-Croupier: and more important: check the entire config.log in search of that error. see what it says [08:54] ananke: where the hell is that config.log... i saw that in the build error..am looking for it for like 5mins now... :( [08:54] Action: The-Croupier is feeling reaaaallly stressed...:( [08:55] The-Croupier: then nevermind [08:55] ananke: :( ?! [08:56] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:56] ananke: what do you mean neverind? is there soemthing im missing? [08:57] shouldnt there be a config.log...if the system...tells me to look for it? locate config.log nothing...:( [08:57] if you're stressed, and panicky, then maybe it's not the right time to be fixing those kind of problems [08:58] alexcg (~alexcg@92.39.230.201) joined ##slackware. [08:58] config.log would be in the current directory you're in, if the error you saw was produced by ./configure [08:58] ananke: nope nothing there...;) that was the first i checked... [08:58] did you run ./configure? [08:59] im going for a cigarette to calm down...;) ill come back... [08:59] ananke: nope i run the slackbuild straight away ;) [08:59] alexcg (~alexcg@92.39.230.201) left irc: Client Quit [09:01] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [09:02] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. 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[09:30] Action: Camarade_Tux shoots the nouveau team for not fixing their bugs [09:30] echtts (~echtts@189-18-90-61.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:31] nessundo1ma (~mike@78-134-76-88.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:32] pprkut: sahk0 thanks, i read the faq, seems i have to configure some stuff in my sytem, ;) archx86_64 was the prob...;) thanks [09:33] Action: pprkut pats Camarade_Tux. All will be good ;) [09:34] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [09:34] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-81-2.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [09:35] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-65-57.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:36] pprkut: they have the same old bug where loading nouveau.ko when in vesa/vga mode gives you blank screen, thought it would get fixed (had it a few months back) but it looks like I'll have to push for a fix [09:37] hehe [09:39] actually I don't know anyone using nouveau not having this bug >< [09:39] Lord_Khelben (~null@188.4.241.61.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:40] I guess people on other distributions don't notice it because the installers make it so vesa/vga won't be used [09:41] nessundo1ma (~mike@78-134-82-133.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [09:42] nick4 (~fffeop@79.103.38.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:44] nessundorma (~mike@78-134-71-156.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [09:49] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.19.41) joined ##slackware. [09:52] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:53] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:55] Bassist (~bass@mnch-5d8550c1.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [09:56] Hey, has anyone have a problem with scrolling in xpdf lately? [09:56] Since some time, the scrolling is painfully slow, not as smooth as it used to be [09:56] nessundorma (~mike@78.134.119.227) joined ##slackware. [09:57] Bassist: what does 'top' say? [09:57] Processor hits 100% while scrolling [09:58] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-1-223.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:58] I don't know what the hell it's doing, but it looks a bit like it's reloading the page very rapidly every time it scrolls for a bit [09:58] Bassist: is scrolling fullscreen webpages fine? [09:59] find one with a lot of images [09:59] Scrolling everything is fine, even Adobe reader [09:59] oh, hrm [09:59] i had that issue in 12.2 - thought it was my machine [09:59] Xpdf was blazingly fast, maybe an update killed something [09:59] hughszg (~hugh@218.82.205.198) joined ##slackware. [10:00] nessundo1ma (~mike@78-134-82-133.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:00] Bassist: I mean, top shows xpdf as the most cpu-consuming app? [10:00] Yes [10:00] But only during a scroll [10:01] slackware-current, the Konsole is unable to display files name in Chinese but Xfce terminal can. Can I have a way enable Konsole to do so as well? [10:01] When I'm not doing anything, it uses virtually no CPU [10:01] sirslacker (~sirslacke@p54B158F1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:01] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-64-141.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:02] I wouldn't bother if I didn't use xpdf, but it was faster and had cleaner rendering than everything else I had used before [10:02] So am I the only one? [10:03] Or has anyone else witnessed this on 13? [10:03] Bassist: sorry, I use okular [10:03] linus72 (0@pool-71-171-75-193.clppva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:03] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [10:03] linus72 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Using IRC as root is dangerous. Please reference "Using IRC as root" via google for further information. [10:03] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-206.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:03] Bassist: i know it's not a proper answer but epdfview is very small and fast too [10:03] i use okular too, but let me installpkg xpdf a moment to try [10:03] it does it on every pdf you open ? [10:04] Axius (~fd@92.84.5.167) joined ##slackware. [10:04] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-1-223.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [10:04] Lord_Khelben: Every one [10:04] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-65-57.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [10:05] Lord_Khelben: Okular isn't bad, but I don't have KDE on here.. And epdfviewer is lightweight, but it has terrible rendering when opening scanned handwritten documents [10:05] When I login I get this mgs:/etc/profile.d/bash_completion.sh:[:2: unknown condition: -2 /etc/profile.d/bash_completion.sh:[:6: unknown condition: -3 [10:05] xpdf and acrobat display the lines much cleaner [10:06] i tried it now and it gets from 1% to 10% when scrolling [10:06] which is ok i guess [10:06] i can't get it go beyond 10% even on big zoom [10:06] Yeah, it was the same here forever [10:06] Axius: so alter /etc/profile.d/bash_completion.sh [10:06] axius, paste that file on pastebin, lets see [10:07] dios_mio: ok [10:07] Bassist: actually, does epdfviewer has the same speed problem? [10:07] Camarade_Tux: No not at all [10:07] Camarade_Tux: I'd use it, if I didn't have to read so much handwritten documents [10:08] This is the link: http://dpaste.com/176684/ [10:08] Camarade_Tux: epdfviewer (and evince) are sadly rubbish at displaying those, and I don't know why [10:08] weird, they're using the same rendering engine [10:08] hrm, it doesn't want to even scroll properly.. wants me to 'flip the page' instead.. psh [10:08] Camarade_Tux: I thought they would, but for some reason the quality is miles apart [10:08] raela: use apvlv ;-) [10:09] Camarade_Tux: what, to view the file, or some switch to pass it? [10:09] raela: slackbuilds.org :-) [10:09] Camarade_Tux: oh, I'm happy with okular [10:09] Bassist: poppler is the rendering engine extracted from the xpdf sources [10:09] Camarade_Tux: was trying to test to see if I had the same issue [10:09] Axius: i may be wrong but i think the line should be if [ -n "$PS1" [10:10] try it if you like [10:10] raela: apvlv is a pdf viewer with vi-style keybindings ;-) [10:10] Axius, actually you better ask in #bash [10:10] Camarade_Tux: I am happy with it thought! [10:10] *though [10:10] Camarade_Tux: I could try reinstalling poppler.. And apvlv looks like fun. I'll check that out too :) [10:11] hughszg (hugh@218.82.205.198) left ##slackware. [10:12] Bassist: well, what was the last update to xpdf? [10:13] nessundo1ma (~mike@78-134-87-16.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [10:13] Camarade_Tux: The last monster update [10:13] I'll try reverting to the old version [10:14] has anyone here ever run the grsecurity patchset ? [10:15] Bassist: and when was your previous upgrade with -current? [10:16] nessundorma (~mike@78.134.119.227) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [10:16] dios_mio (dios@88.242.170.205) left irc: [10:16] goarilla: i have but it was very long ago. i liked lids better at that time [10:16] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:16] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-1-223.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:17] Camarade_Tux: Few days ago, but reverting to the old version worked now [10:17] Thanks :) It's smooth again [10:18] which version was slow and which one was fast? [10:18] xpdf-3.02pl4-i486-2 was slow [10:18] Bassist: uhm, I see what you mean: on my box, xpdf is hella slow and cpu rises to 100% for both cores (on -current 32bit right now) [10:18] 13 shipped with 3.02pl3-i486-1 [10:19] Nick change: nessundo1ma -> nessundorma [10:19] nessundorma: You can get the old xpdf package here: ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/xap/xpdf-3.02pl3-i486-1.txz [10:19] xpdf-3.02pl2-i486-3 # was the slow one for me on 12.2 (12.2 -current actually) [10:19] before the huge update, slack had 3.02pl4-*-1, have you used it? [10:19] And then # upgradepackage [10:20] Camarade_Tux: I suppose I did [10:20] But I don't care much about the version right now. Just the scroll speed and CPU usage [10:20] it was in -curren from november to february (inclusive) [10:20] Yeah [10:20] makes it easier to find regressions ;-) [10:20] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [10:21] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:21] But I'll stick with the old version now ;) Thanks to all of you for the help! [10:21] Bassist: I usually use okular, I was just saying yo were not the only one with that problem ;^) [10:21] Bassist, you should care, pl4 fixes many security issues [10:21] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:21] mancha: Alright, I'll find the intermediate one, should work as well [10:22] Axelpalm (~alch@78-28-71-14.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [10:23] the changelog for the pl4-2 says that the icons were moved, so if pl4-2 is slow pl4-1 (the intermediate) would be slow too [10:23] Can't hurt to try though [10:23] yes of course [10:24] Lord_Khelben: greetings ;) [10:24] long time no irc ;) [10:24] hello The-Croupier [10:24] i had gone to serve the country :P [10:24] hows it going man? [10:24] Lord_Khelben: that explains alot ;) [10:25] Lord_Khelben: is that why the courtry is in this mess ;) [10:25] hehhe nah its because i left [10:25] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-155-231-32.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:25] Lord_Khelben: go back, scare some ppl off ;) [10:25] Lord_Khelben: "kalos politis" and nice to see you back ;) [10:25] i didn't like it and restarted with the student class again [10:26] you didn't like war ? [10:26] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-129-176-149.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [10:26] who would have thought [10:27] goarilla: there is not a war going. [10:27] Lord_Khelben: pl4-1 is fast [10:27] Bassist: weird. but i am glad it works [10:28] Lord_Khelben: Tell me about it :) [10:28] Axius (~fd@92.84.5.167) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:28] Alright I'm out now [10:28] Thanks for the help [10:28] See ya [10:28] goodbye [10:28] sirslacker (~sirslacke@p54B158F1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [10:28] notKlaat1 (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) joined ##slackware. [10:29] win 14 [10:29] bleh =) [10:29] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:29] johnbristol (~johnbrist@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:30] Nick change: notKlaat1 -> notKlaatu [10:30] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) left irc: Changing host [10:30] notKlaatu (~klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [10:30] johnbristol (~johnbrist@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:31] Axius (~fd@92.84.5.167) joined ##slackware. [10:32] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.57.155.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [10:32] Bassist (~bass@mnch-5d8550c1.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:33] I still get that error when I login as regular user:/etc/profile.d/bash_completion.sh:[:2: unknown condition: -2 /etc/profile.d/bash_completion.sh:[:6: unknown condition: -3 . as regular user I use zsh and as root I use bash. What should I do? [10:34] Axius: do you want bash completion? [10:34] because it's not vital for anything [10:34] Axius: run as root chmod -x /etc/profile.d/bash_completion.sh [10:34] you can move the script from /etc/profile.d and the message will go away [10:34] but it will disable it for bash too [10:35] Lord_Khelben: if he's not using it, though.. [10:35] raela: yes probably he isn't [10:35] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@63.238.104.170) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:35] that's just extended completion options. tab completion is still good [10:35] Axius: or you can try putting -n as i told you before [10:35] i guess bash_completion is not as posix compatible as first thought [10:35] the script [10:36] goarilla: it uses bash specific things so it doesn't need to be posix compatible [10:36] why does it kick in with a zsh login then? [10:36] true but shouldn't profile be hacked then [10:36] mancha: the slackware zsh package [10:36] unless his zsh stuff is trying to call it? [10:36] comes with zprofile symlinked to profile [10:36] ? [10:36] to not run it [10:37] how did that answer my question? :) [10:37] you said why it kicks in a zsh login [10:37] zsh parsed zprofile which is symlinked to /etc/profile [10:37] which in turn sources every +x file in /etc/profile.d [10:38] make it not executable then make a line in etc/profile that sources it if SHELL = BASH [10:38] if he changes that then usefull files in /etc/profile.d won't be parsed [10:38] ok. someone said not posix, you said doesn't have to to be since it is only for bash-specific, i said why is it run for zsh logins then, you said cause of xyz [10:39] see the problem-oh? [10:39] I get that error while login to zsh. [10:40] Axius: we already told you. either run "chmod -x /etc/profile.d/bash_completion.sh" as root [10:40] or edit the file and modify both [ "$PS1" ] to [ -n "$PS1" ] and see if it works [10:40] Lord_Khelben: ok, I will run that [10:40] the first is bad as it disables it for all logins even those that can use bash completion [10:41] mancha: yes it is [10:41] here's the issue i have: the problem is it should not be sourced for non-bash logins, right? so fix THAT problem. [10:41] the second is also bad because it will be overwritten when the package is upgraded [10:42] you don't fix a patient's head cold by cutting off his head. [10:42] also the second doesn't work i tried it now [10:42] lol [10:42] What should I do then? [10:42] bbl fuckes [10:42] shouldn't pat have fixed this ? [10:43] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [10:43] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:43] is this an issue in 13.0 or current or both? [10:43] goarilla: bash_completion is in extra so maybe he didn't noticed it [10:43] The-Croupier (ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [10:43] i don't know it for sure i am guessing [10:43] tsccof (~tsccof@189.74.211.177) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [10:43] i have no idea what it does tho [10:44] I've installed bash_completion today. [10:45] Axius: http://dpaste.com/176692/ [10:45] try this [10:45] one line in the beginning and one in the end are added. the other is the same as yours [10:46] i have issues with bash_completion stuff being sourced for zsh logins too [10:46] but I just exec env zsh where I want it [10:47] Lord_Khelben: ok [10:50] gaz (~gaz@cpc4-runc5-2-0-cust424.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:50] Axius: did it work ? [10:50] Lord_Khelben: I will reboot to see what happens. [10:51] you can also login on another tty. you don't have to reboot [10:52] Lord_Khelben: I've logine and nothing happend, it seems that is working. [10:52] nice [10:52] Lord_Khelben: thank you. [10:52] Lord, submit the patch to pat. [10:52] i've been too lazy to do that, thanks :) [10:53] mancha: ok though it might be a nicer way to do it [10:53] i still am hesitant to chsh -s zsh here [10:53] i run zsh for both my user and root [10:53] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:53] i was hesitant at the beginning too :) [10:53] col [10:53] *cool [10:54] i know zsh well enough to use it full time [10:54] but everybody uses bash [10:54] I've never really tried another shell.. also, too lazy to make my prompt work in others [10:54] it took me sometime to mess with the configs and put what i want but now it is very useful [10:55] Axius (~fd@92.84.5.167) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:55] if BASH_VERSION is null why are either $bmajor -eq 2 or $bmajor -eq 3 getting triggered? [10:55] s/useful/productive/ [10:55] Axius (~fd@92.84.5.167) joined ##slackware. [10:55] johnbristol (~johnbrist@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:56] raela, you can just use stuff like promptinit until you get around to making your own prompt [10:56] trhodes: mine has color and such [10:56] the error was in ${bash%.*} and stuff i think. i am lazy to read the bash manpage what they do [10:57] it's basename [10:57] Axuis, in your zsh login, can you echo $BASH_VERSION for me? [10:57] it strips the suffix only once starting from behind Lord_Khelben [10:57] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.66.128) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:57] ah thanx goarilla [10:58] in zsh the same is done with :r [10:58] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.198.84) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:58] anyone use encrypted volumes in a co-location? [10:58] no, i've wondered how to use them remotely though [10:58] i mean, root FS [10:58] yea [10:59] mancha: of course:3.1.17(2)-release [10:59] entering the passphrase is the trouble [10:59] and if you don't have a passphrase, then the encryption is moot [10:59] yeah, i spose you could do that in a busybox initrd ot so [10:59] yeah [10:59] debian does it -- have you seen the script ? [10:59] Axius? [10:59] no, i haven't [10:59] mancha: 3.1.17(2)-release [11:00] Axius, that is in your zsh login? [11:00] DareDevil0 (~Secret@173.171.218.44) joined ##slackware. [11:00] valsiterb (~valsiterb@130.207.broadband7.iol.cz) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:01] mancha: In my zsh I get no output. [11:01] aren't there ip kvm situations for that Skywise [11:01] Skywise: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/579 [11:01] Axius, ok, that is what i wanted to know [11:01] mancha, why ? [11:02] because if BASH_VERSION is null, why is the bash completion code getting sourced? [11:02] i look at the script and if $bmajor is not equal to 2 or 3 (which it wouldn't be) it shoudl not happen [11:02] in this: http://dpaste.com/176692/ ? [11:03] mancha: the error is in the line before the if [11:03] in the line that bmajor and stuff are set [11:03] trhodes, i think a flash drive on an internal usb header might be easier [11:03] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-1-223.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [11:03] Lord how so? [11:03] well no [11:03] if they take the whole box, then it doesn't protect anything [11:03] hmm [11:03] Skywise, maybe so, but my threat model was (and sort of is) the whole machine being stolen [11:03] indeed [11:04] valsiterb (~valsiterb@130.207.broadband7.iol.cz) joined ##slackware. [11:04] mancha: when i sourced the file from zsh bash=${BASH_VERSION%.*}; bmajor=${bash%.*}; bminor=${bash#*.} this line gave me the error [11:04] i wonder if it would be possible to setup some sort of dhcp system [11:04] it doesn't understand the syntax i guess [11:04] Skywise, i was thinkin' of a wget or somesuch within the initrd [11:05] dhcp sounds doable too, but I duno it as well [11:05] you could match a code vs a mac addy [11:06] man, i need a lab where i can just screw around with stuff [11:06] but everything i build i put to use [11:06] it doesn't get sources from within a zsh shell though [11:06] all hail virtualisation [11:07] yea, yea [11:07] haha [11:08] i'll do that on my next development box, but i'll prolly get some sheeva/guru plugs before anything else [11:08] Skywise, mine's at a remote location over another residential internet connection, so the wget could have had some rudimentary reverse DNS lookups, sort of like dhcp + MAC [11:08] still maybe just maybe http://www.kvm-switches-online.com/0su70030.html [11:09] ok, i think if we change the [ $bmajor -eq 2 ] and [ $bmajor -eq 3 ] to: [ "$bmajor" == 2 ] and [ "$bmajor" == 3 ] it shoukd be good. [11:09] um, yeah [11:09] johnbristol (~johnbrist@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [11:10] $800 for a kvm won't be happening unless thats what they're paying me [11:10] i'm not saying you should buy that model Skywise [11:10] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.198.84) joined ##slackware. [11:10] i'm just saying there are solutions out there for your troubles [11:10] i think thats prolly something i should investigate [11:11] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [11:12] that would make remote management simpler [11:12] i don't have bash_completion here, so if someone would like to test that out it'd be cool [11:12] mmm they do seem to be expensive overall [11:13] but enterprise stuff always is a bit overpriced imho [11:13] mancha, that goes in /etc/profile ? (sorry, haven't been paying full attention) [11:13] yeah, its prestige priced [11:13] $200 and i'd order one [11:13] there's a file: bash_completion.sh [11:13] oh, in that ? [11:14] wtf, my "i" is no longer self inserting [11:14] yes, there are two condition lines, an if and an elif, i am proposing changing the condition elements above [11:14] ok, i'll try it out [11:14] the -eq is the problem ? [11:14] Lord, i believe so. [11:16] nessundo1ma (~mike@78.134.121.214) joined ##slackware. [11:16] x-day (~x-day@j.r.bobdobbs.info) joined ##slackware. [11:17] nessundorma (~mike@78-134-87-16.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Disconnected by services [11:17] Nick change: nessundo1ma -> nessundorma [11:18] valsiterb (~valsiterb@130.207.broadband7.iol.cz) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [11:18] bmajor == 2 works [11:19] the second shouldn't be == 3 it says -ge [11:20] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:20] says -eq here [11:20] Hermann (~Hermannn@1-1-2-44a.vig.sth.bostream.se) joined ##slackware. [11:20] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:20] also says -eq in your paste: http://dpaste.com/176692/ [11:20] ha yep, it even works on a 12.2 machine [11:20] weird it sayd -ge on mine [11:20] not surprisingly, that's what the errors were [11:21] bash-completion-1.1-noarch-3 [11:21] lord, if you have -ge then you can use '>' [11:21] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.57.155.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:21] or \> just make sure it is not a simple > in that single bracket construct [11:22] "patched to recognise bash-4" [11:22] haha yikes [11:22] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:23] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [11:23] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [11:24] nah still doesn't work on me. '>' works for bminor on line 2 but errors on bmajor on line 6 :) [11:24] i guess the if [[ -n $BASH_VERSION ]]; was nice after all [11:25] like this? [ "$bmajor" '>' 3 ] [11:25] yes [11:25] pics or it didn't happen [11:25] gtfo :P [11:27] valsiterb (~valsiterb@130.207.broadband7.iol.cz) joined ##slackware. [11:28] my money is on no quotation marks around $bmajor in Lord's script [11:29] with or withour quotation marks doesn't make a difference [11:29] but i tried with both [11:29] imageshack.us gives me no input specifiied any other site ? [11:29] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:29] http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/comparison-ops.html [11:30] for integers: if [ "$a" -ge "$b" ] [11:30] for strings: if [ "$a" \> "$b" ] [11:30] what's posix here ? [11:30] better quote everything [11:31] no posix, that's bash [11:31] http://omploader.org/vM3lmZw/4mancha1.png [11:32] uhm, maybe I completely misunderstood the issue [11:32] pix indeed [11:33] Lord_Khelben i am dumbfounded then [11:33] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) joined ##slackware. [11:33] if i run echo $bash - $bmajor - $bminor nothing is set [11:33] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [11:34] so zsh doesn't understand the bash syntax in the first line [11:34] so a check for BASH_VERSION would be better than change the code [11:35] it does but since you're not in bash, BASH_VERSION is "" [11:35] DareDevil0 (~Secret@173.171.218.44) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:35] therefore $bash, $bmajor, and $bminor are all "" [11:35] ah i guess you're right [11:35] sirslacker (~sirslacke@p579B54A1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:36] ${#BASH_VERSION} [11:36] just an idea [11:36] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [11:37] i stopped bothering about these things. if i wasn't lazy i would even symlink bash to zsh and remove bash altogether (and modify scripts to some extent of course) [11:37] Lord, what terminal do you use? [11:37] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [11:37] konsole [11:37] it sure has changed [11:37] why does it say "director" at the bottom? [11:37] that's his username ? [11:38] oh ok. [11:38] yes username on this box [11:38] never used konsole. [11:38] konsole got gnome-ey [11:38] keres (~keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:38] is that xchat in the background? [11:38] in KDE 4.x [11:38] kvirc modified to look nice [11:38] trhodes: how so? [11:39] sirslacker (~sirslacke@p579B54A1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:39] it just got more minimalistic and got some gnome-terminal features [11:39] (which I like) [11:39] Hermann (~Hermannn@1-1-2-44a.vig.sth.bostream.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [11:40] sirslacker (~sirslacke@p579B54A1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:40] and messed with the "xterm title" thing that used to work :P [11:41] I like konsole, but the kde4 version as 2 very annoying bugs :( [11:43] which ones? [11:45] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=186017 and https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=185466 [11:47] oobe (~stuff@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:47] Lord_Khelben, http://dpaste.com/176721/ [11:48] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-210-161.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:48] -n should work though [11:49] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.57.155.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [11:49] trhodes: yes something like that [11:49] i had used -n $BASH_VERSION [11:49] that would be best imho [11:49] instead of messing with the rest code [11:49] this check in the beginning is nice [11:50] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host217-42-253-227.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:50] zsh, iirc, can check for the existence of a variable [11:50] i forget about bash [11:50] it is the same -z is zero/nonset -n is nonzero/set [11:50] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [11:51] or a string check like xBASH_VERSION != x"" [11:51] ha, yeah [11:51] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [11:51] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.198.84) left irc: Changing host [11:51] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@unaffiliated/raph0x88) joined ##slackware. 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[12:12] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [12:12] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [12:13] mac- (mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:13] hi there [12:13] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:13] I have IBM ThinkPad T21 [12:13] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [12:13] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:13] for now using acpid for power management [12:14] but on thinkwiki.org found information that now should use HAL with pm-utils [12:14] someone familiar with this topic ? [12:15] hm, ubuntu server 9 has a cloud node and cloud server package which can create a private or public (amazon-compatible) "cloud". [12:16] I don't know why I should get excited. [12:16] because if you have your own cloud, you're uber l33t [12:16] I have serious doubts on where the gains are. [12:17] ubuntu server cloud 9 [12:17] what could go wrong ? [12:17] I'm completely sold on vm guests on qemu/kvm, but I don't get the cloud thing (yet). [12:17] i suspect public clouds are easier to manage then botnets [12:18] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) joined ##slackware. [12:18] recently I "virtualized" my company's ms windows AD servers on linux qemu/kvm; because samba 4 + wine doesn't cut it yet. [12:19] and that's more or less enough for a ~50 or so organisation with a small it dept... [12:20] Axius (~fd@92.84.5.167) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:20] my take on "cloud" computing is that orgs can offload more maintenance to the service provider [12:21] aha, so that's where the cost benefits are... [12:21] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-188.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [12:21] because from my view, it's a whole new layer on top of virtualization, maybe useless overhead. [12:21] mac-: slackware includes both hal and pm-utils so you can try them [12:22] i don't know if they are better alternatives to acpid though. wait to hear from someome who has a laptop and used both [12:22] i thought it would be more where service providers can charge for a theroretical performance level with whatever crap they have lying around the shop [12:23] aha, so cloud does not necessarily require virtualization. [12:23] a cloud is what they used to call time sharing on mainframes [12:23] notKlaatu (~klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:23] but the emphasis is on "services", whatever those may be. [12:23] lol [12:24] "software as a service" [12:24] the less quantifiable the term is, the more they can charge [12:24] bah, cloud computing is so 2009. Heard of sky computing yet? ;) [12:24] haha [12:24] skynet [12:24] shhh [12:24] psYcker (~psYcker@201.164.160.71) joined ##slackware. [12:25] haha [12:25] I'm serious though [12:25] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) joined ##slackware. [12:25] my network will only be benevolent [12:25] I think I'm getting to that age when people get suspicious of new tech. [12:25] it happens around 35 [12:26] wtf [12:26] i'm not even close to that [12:26] sky is defined as a grid of clouds [12:26] and i do that. am i gonna die young? [12:26] everythign before then is innovative, everything after that is suspicious [12:26] the definition fits [12:26] really? i'm younger than that and am already a luddite / fogey / whatever you call it [12:26] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:26] pupiteee (~p@91.150.106.253) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:27] well it just usually takes people until 35 to understand [12:27] great, i'm ahead of the curve [12:27] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [12:28] oh sure, i think most of us know that family tracking gps phones is a bad idea [12:28] well that's less of a luddite thing and more of a privacy thing i think [12:28] but i agree. i have my phone gps disabled [12:28] hard to split the 2 [12:28] Axelpalm (alch@78-28-71-14.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left ##slackware. [12:29] i leave my phone off most of the time :P [12:29] cell phone, that is [12:29] its still on unless its battery is removed [12:29] only the screen is off [12:29] Skywise: really? [12:29] yes. they can be remotely activated [12:29] eh? i never hear the gsm or whatevre noise when it's "off" [12:29] all are like that? [12:29] yeah [12:30] my old phone from the 90's can go on uncharged for 2 weeks, them newfangled iphone/nexus/nokia sets last less than 12 hours. [12:30] i don't even want to provide info as to what towers I use most :) [12:30] yeah, bluetooth really eats batteries [12:30] i want to get a bluetooth phone so i can talk on my motorcycle seamlessly [12:31] you'd need to take out the battery and the sim inorder to get off the grid [12:31] but i have the crappiest phone that verizon sells [12:31] i love my bluetooth headset, wires suck [12:31] Skywise, those aren't cheap the last time I checked, whatcha got? [12:31] i actually got a samsung bluetooth headset for free. quality kind of sucks though [12:31] wep450 or something [12:32] i have a nokia 6682 cell phone so i got a nokia bh-900 headset [12:32] all nokia phones and accessories use the same power supply [12:32] so i can charge my headset and phone with with the same brick and i get a spare [12:33] wow. is nokia as awesome as they seem to be? [12:33] i think so [12:33] I like those nokia thingies with debian on them. [12:33] n900? [12:34] maemo ? [12:34] but every corp has its evil side [12:34] But before buying one of those, I'm getting me my pandora. [12:34] what's that [12:35] http://pandorapress.net/ [12:36] it's paperweight, actually, it depends on how you use it. [12:37] well i never understood why people got pet rocks either [12:37] or pet skulls [12:37] I have never used phones as an organizer and I never will... I thought the pandora could be a bit more interesting. [12:39] Lord_Khelben (~null@188.4.241.61.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Quit: Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes! [12:39] hm, I'm running the latest ubuntu server on kvm, it's a bit flaky. [12:39] how so [12:39] yeah, but those things never really pan out because you get info from so many sources and it won't pull them all together [12:40] amazon10x, I sudo nano my /etc/sudoers to give the sudo group passwordless access, then a stdout interrupts the session about something or another not being mountable. [12:41] checking dmesg now. [12:41] i thought you had to edit sudoers with visudo or something [12:41] valsiterb (~valsiterb@130.207.broadband7.iol.cz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:42] not necessarily. [12:42] you could even edit sudoers with rm, or cp if you want... ah fond memories... [12:43] I accidentally 'mv' sudoers, without 'sudo passwd' first. [12:43] I locked myself out of the system :P [12:43] sudo -i gives you root. [12:44] okay, now on to my experiment, setup samba 4 as a win2k3 server compatible AD server... [12:45] amazon10x: visudo provides verification of syntax. you can use any editor for that [12:45] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:52] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [12:56] ananke: ahh okay. i thought it did something magical, not just verification [12:57] it doesn't so something to make it "atomic" ? 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[13:07] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:07] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:08] pireau (1000@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) joined ##slackware. [13:09] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [13:10] Reaver1 (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:10] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:15] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:18] johndee (~id@93-81-140-86.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:19] how can I check on which user acpid executes actions ? [13:20] sOopEr (~sup@41.116.27.181) joined ##slackware. [13:21] ps [13:21] aaah nevermind [13:22] wedjat (~wedjat@unaffiliated/wedjat) joined ##slackware. [13:22] i think it's root since acpid is kernelside iirc [13:26] valsiterb (~valsiterb@130.207.broadband7.iol.cz) joined ##slackware. [13:28] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:28] media (~media@142-217-83-39.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:29] test [13:29] Nick change: media -> vhann [13:29] pass :) [13:29] Weird, NickServ won't answer me :s [13:30] Nickserv has you on ignore. [13:30] b_j_x (~brendan@113-61-80-63.static.qld.dsl.net.au) joined ##slackware. [13:31] XGizzmo: is this real or you are just joking? [13:31] joking [13:31] Ok :p [13:31] could it just be the server you're on ? [13:31] O.o [13:32] agentc0re: I finally found why my openvpn wouldn't work right: I forgot to activate ip forwarding... [13:32] And it was clearly written in the manpage... I deserve some whipping... [13:32] vhann: you may need quit and reconnect, sometimes netsplits cause weird problems like that. [13:33] XGizzmo: Ok, thanks for the info [13:34] Anyway, it's not that bad not being authenticated, vhann seems to be a somewhat unique nickname anyway [13:34] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [13:35] Looks like I'm using 'anyway' as some sort of punctuation here [13:35] vhann is a last name [13:36] like cannon [13:36] vhann: awesome. [13:36] b_j_x (~brendan@113-61-80-63.static.qld.dsl.net.au) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [13:36] vhann: simple fix. [13:36] echtts (~echtts@201-42-86-146.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:38] Cann0n, to my surprise, is right: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannon_(surname) [13:39] echtts (~echtts@189-46-211-13.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:39] agentc0re: Yeah, though I'm on the publicly accessible end for the weekend and it seems I made a configuration error before leaving... hence the VPN is currently unoperational lol [13:40] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host217-42-253-227.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:40] b_j_x (~brendan@113-61-80-63.static.qld.dsl.net.au) joined ##slackware. [13:42] b_j_x (~brendan@113-61-80-63.static.qld.dsl.net.au) left irc: Client Quit [13:42] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-14.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [13:42] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [13:46] b_j_x (~brendan@113-61-80-63.static.qld.dsl.net.au) joined ##slackware. [13:49] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Quit: :) [13:50] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:51] Drakevr (~drakevr@ppp-94-66-168-239.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:51] Drakevr (~drakevr@ppp-94-66-168-239.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Changing host [13:51] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [13:51] vhann: it's not my last name, but ive met maybe 10 people with that last name in the past 10 years [13:53] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:53] sOopEr (~sup@41.116.27.181) left irc: Quit: brb [13:55] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [13:55] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Client Quit [13:56] ang_ (~ang@up-above-it.org) joined ##slackware. [13:56] reminds me of the name gaylord as a valid first name [13:59] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [14:01] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.123.98) joined ##slackware. [14:01] pupiteee (~p@91.150.123.183) joined ##slackware. [14:01] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:03] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.123.98) left irc: Client Quit [14:05] I'm wondering whether alreadygone joined and quit just to match their nickname... [14:09] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:10] hey ppl [14:10] j0 [14:11] anyone experiencience flash problems on the 64 beta plugin? ie. can't move ahead? [14:13] how can I enable access for root to connect to DISPLAY by xhost ? [14:13] deny for all except root [14:14] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [14:14] I wish to attach xlock to Fn-F3 on laptop, but it looks like acpid run it as root [14:15] so? [14:15] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.57.155.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:16] your xdm should control access [14:16] fnord0 (~fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) joined ##slackware. [14:16] fnord0 (~fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:19] fnord0 (~fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) joined ##slackware. [14:20] graffz (~graffz@118.175.66.195) joined ##slackware. [14:21] vhann (~media@142-217-83-39.telebecinternet.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:21] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-1-223.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [14:21] graffz (graffz@118.175.66.195) left ##slackware. [14:22] serverduck (~serverduc@188.24.217.167) joined ##slackware. [14:24] use xmodmap [14:24] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-1-223.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:25] nessundo1ma (~mike@78-134-70-25.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [14:27] I know this will deffinately sound stupid and very offtopic but is there any slacker woman here? I need some help from the feminine side. [14:28] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [14:29] nessundorma (~mike@78.134.121.214) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:30] you can call a hotline or something [14:30] and here is the only place in the world you could come up with ? you don't need a woman, you need to get out of the basement [14:31] Protip: If the pickup line starts with "Your father must have been a plastic surgeon", it's doomed from the start. [14:31] cacao74 (~cacao74@host-78-13-135-232.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [14:31] I'm on init 3, my user logged in but I can't startx as another user. It sais server already running [14:31] cacao74 (~cacao74@host-78-13-135-232.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) left irc: Client Quit [14:31] Damn I don [14:31] don't want to pick no one! [14:31] i hate those cryptic error messages like "server already running" [14:32] Excuse me for my offtopic please. [14:32] d3m0n3 (~EviL@2001:470:d11a::c0ca) left irc: [14:32] serverduck (~serverduc@188.24.217.167) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:33] Azeotrope: pkill X [14:33] mancha: I also tried to remove /tmp/.X0-lock [14:33] b_j_x: won't that kill X on my currently logged user? [14:35] startx -- :1 [14:36] Ratrophy (~Burninato@75.133.172.233) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:36] kitche (~dragon@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [14:37] Azeotrope: what are you trying to do? [14:37] Invalid Mit-magic cookie [14:37] b_j_x: i want other users to able to login in [14:37] lovely xorg issue sounds like [14:37] ~/.Xauthority [14:38] *that* file [14:38] mancha isn't it startx -- :1.0 [14:38] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt3-port-61.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [14:38] i remember editing startx to alleviate it sine i kept forgetting to add .0 [14:40] http://pastebin.org/126200 [14:41] ok it's the opposit i added . to the char class to be able to do -- :1.0 as well [14:43] goarilla, try it (tm) [14:43] Azeotrope: as the others have said (in a way) you are trying to restart x on a current session (port in use etc) [14:44] gary_the_snail (~sibb@212.183.140.33) joined ##slackware. [14:45] b_j_x: ok. how do i get to have graphics on that user, while mine is logged in? [14:45] xhost or xauth [14:49] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.58.58) joined ##slackware. [14:50] Azeotrope: dude, yr going to have to clarify exactly what yr trying to do if anyone here will help [14:50] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:51] ang_ (~ang@up-above-it.org) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:53] i think he's suing to another user in a x terminal and trying to launch X apps from that [14:53] ya - well then xauth [14:53] b_j_x: I want to let other user log in and have GUI, using only init 3. When I had init 4 things were easier: I'd just lock my screen and other people could Switch User and then go to the login screen. [14:54] sirslacker (~sirslacke@p579B54A1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:54] gaz (~gaz@cpc4-runc5-2-0-cust424.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:55] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [14:55] e2kb (~e2kb@201-24-125-1.jvece701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:55] goarilla: yes. I pressed ctrl+alt+f2 to get the text login window and then logged in as another user. [14:57] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:57] more than one user can have at same time on one machine ? [14:58] can have X* [14:58] yes [14:58] oh right [14:58] i didnt know that [14:58] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:59] well you can't display gui apps on a X server that another user has started without [14:59] sirslacker (~sirslacke@p579B54A1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:59] setting DISPLAY vars and allowing the other user to connect to the X server with either xhost or xauth [15:00] ? [15:00] a linux system can run multiple instances [15:00] mine can't [15:00] yes, it can [15:00] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:00] or the other user can start its own X server [15:01] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:01] azeotrope: if it worked in runlevel 4 surely that means you have to look at what is enabled/disabled between yr runlevels [15:01] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.19.41) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:02] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-149-5.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [15:02] klaasvakie (~johann@vc-41-31-238-74.umts.vodacom.co.za) joined ##slackware. [15:03] b_j_x (brendan@113-61-80-63.static.qld.dsl.net.au) left ##slackware. [15:03] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182209&Tpk=X8SIE-F anyone deal with the X8SIE-F ? [15:04] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) joined ##slackware. [15:04] does this work X :9 & [15:05] when i want to make avant-window-navigator i get this (http://pastebin.ca/1854073) error how i can repair it [15:06] goarilla: the screen flickers as when starting x but it stays black. [15:06] is there a mouse cursor [15:06] no [15:06] ok go back to your tty [15:06] and type [15:07] export DISPLAY=":9" && xterm [15:07] then go back to your X (prob ctrl-alt-f7) [15:08] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [15:08] Wescotte (~WuzzleWaz@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:09] goarilla: ok... did that. nothing happens [15:09] tony_ (~tony@winnersdontlose.com) joined ##slackware. [15:09] Nick change: tony_ -> tchang [15:09] Nick change: nessundo1ma -> nessundorma [15:09] what does ps -C X -o cmd= [15:09] jeev: is that mobo designed to be fit on rack ? [15:09] gives you [15:10] yea anavel [15:10] i c. [15:10] :/ [15:10] this: http://pastebin.org/126211 [15:10] never heard complaints about that [15:11] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [15:11] Azeotrope: check your Xorg.0.log file. See something like (WW) or (EE) [15:12] yes your X crashes but you have 2 other X servers running already [15:12] started with a wrapper script like startx or xinit [15:13] anavel: Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.org/126214 [15:13] Axius (~hi@92.85.208.232) joined ##slackware. [15:13] hubbe (1000@user190.77-105-192.netatonce.net) joined ##slackware. [15:13] Axius (~hi@92.85.208.232) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:14] goarilla: that's the way i get GUI on my user. boot, login, startx [15:14] offcourse you do [15:14] everyone does [15:14] d3m0n3 (~EviL@2001:470:d11a::c0ca) joined ##slackware. [15:15] when i want to make avant-window-navigator i get this (http://pastebin.ca/1854073) error how i can repair it [15:15] Nick change: tuvok302Lappy -> tuvok302 [15:15] seems like goarilla said , X server is already running. [15:15] then how do i connect with my other user to x? [15:15] but that is not your Xorg.0.log that [15:15] stdout and stderr [15:16] startx -- :2 [15:16] 1 and 0 are already taken according to the ps output [15:17] goarilla: same flickering and black screen, no cursor. [15:18] invalid mit-maig cookie key [15:18] magic [15:18] mmm that's xauth related [15:18] b_j_x (~brendan@113-61-80-63.static.qld.dsl.net.au) joined ##slackware. [15:19] hubbe (1000@user190.77-105-192.netatonce.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:19] can you write to your home dir ? [15:20] i do find it strange that one user has /localuser/ as home dir apparently [15:22] i have the home /localuser because my /home is encrypted. [15:22] nessundorma (~mike@78-134-70-25.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:22] and you can write to it ? [15:22] what about the permissions of .Xauthority [15:22] Blue-Slacker: apparently there is a problem at line 171 [15:23] -rw------- 1 localuser users 102 2010-03-27 20:38 .Xauthority [15:24] mrselfpwn: what i do now? [15:24] fnord0 (~fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [15:25] I would look at the file at line 171 and see what it's asking for that you don't have then I'd get it. [15:26] klaasvakie (johann@vc-41-31-238-74.umts.vodacom.co.za) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:27] b_j_x (~brendan@113-61-80-63.static.qld.dsl.net.au) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:27] jeffroman (~jeffreycl@74-130-85-52.dhcp.insightbb.com) joined ##slackware. [15:27] dont we all love slack [15:27] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-78-110.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:28] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [15:28] jeffroman (jeffreycl@74-130-85-52.dhcp.insightbb.com) left ##slackware. [15:34] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:34] tuvok302 (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt3-port-61.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:35] elbeardmorez (~elbeardmo@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:37] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt7-port-193.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] raph0x88_ (~raph0x88@189.38.198.84) joined ##slackware. [15:40] When connecting and obtaining an IP from a router with a good connection to the internet though the machine that is connecting is not able to reach the internet though can ping the router and has a valid IP. Isnt that a route problem? [15:40] It could be [15:41] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) joined ##slackware. [15:41] can you ping internet addresses without DNS look ups? try pinging this: 206.13.29.12 [15:41] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@unaffiliated/raph0x88) left irc: Disconnected by services [15:41] Nick change: raph0x88_ -> raph0x88 [15:41] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.198.84) left irc: Changing host [15:41] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@unaffiliated/raph0x88) joined ##slackware. [15:42] enferex (~enferex@ip72-218-189-96.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:42] Ive been a slakware user since 2003ish [15:42] Action: antiwire hands enferex a cookie [15:43] I know of slapt-get and such, but is the new installpkg capable of pulling packages from a network. Just to do some easy package updates? [15:43] no [15:43] slackpkg use it :) [15:43] ah [15:43] antiwire: that does work [15:44] kitche: how often are the packages updated? [15:44] mrselfpwn: you have a dns issue then [15:44] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:44] mrselfpwn: set a DNS server in /etc/resolv.conf [15:44] antiwire: indeed [15:44] antiwire: okay, thanks [15:45] sigmund__ (~sigmund@pool-71-98-27-142.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:45] enferex: in the stable tree only when theres security issues [15:46] sahk0: Ok [15:46] e2kb (~e2kb@201-24-125-1.jvece701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:46] sahk0: So, suppose a newere version of XYZ app is released. Would I be able to upgrade to that? [15:47] antiwire: i'm actually helping someone out with the problem and they are run the Ubuntu OS so their resolv.conf is like a quadrupal symlink. ^^ [15:47] enferex: unless theres security issues, only if you do it on your own [15:47] sahk0: ok gotcha [15:48] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [15:49] sahk0: I suppose there are slackpkg mirrors that would have newer versions of packages (updates not-security releated) to applications in my list? [15:50] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:51] enferex: no there wouldnt, unless you switch to the -current development branch [15:51] sahk0: Ah ok [15:51] sahk0: Thanks for all the info [15:51] np [15:51] How well does slackpkg work on dependancies? [15:52] (im running it now upgrade-all style) [15:52] it works on them by ignoring them [15:52] it doesn't [15:52] ok gotcha [15:52] once again [15:52] youl all rock [15:52] No flames [15:52] thanks [15:53] No dependancies because of statically linked binaries, or no dependancies because they are a pain-in-the-butt to manage? [15:53] PITA. [15:53] fiyawerx (~fiyawerx@c-174-54-122-211.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:53] nick4 (~fffeop@79.103.38.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:53] no static libs [15:54] ok, yeah PITA [15:54] :-) [15:54] heheh. [15:54] Action: ut deeply appreciates slackpkg's ignorance, as a newbie [15:54] Dependency management often fails spectacularly (ie, the time I tried to uninstalll nano in Ubuntu, and it tried to remove Gnome because it depended on it.) [15:55] fnord0 (~fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) joined ##slackware. [15:55] Action: ut has nightmares about aptitude's "look! i made a circle for you!" [15:55] jkwood: LOL [15:55] best example is when Gentoo breaks [15:55] mrselfpwn: ? [15:55] not "if" [15:56] Are the -current packages updated frequently? [15:56] read the changelog. [15:56] judge for yourself. [15:56] I mean, suppose git v2.0 comes out then v2.1 comes out before Slackware 13.1. Would both be in -current? [15:56] fiyawerx (~fiyawerx@c-174-54-122-211.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:56] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-149-5.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:56] i refer you to my previous two statements. [15:59] enferex: -current stays pretty current with the latest software [16:00] LnxSlck (LnxSlck@89.214.21.38) joined ##slackware. [16:00] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:01] mrselfpwn: once again thanks [16:01] I admire a channel I do not get flamed in [16:01] Just give it time [16:01] lol [16:01] we won't let you down [16:02] I mainly have escewed pkgmanagement on my home box [16:02] but I have been teased with it so much on my work machines, [16:02] so since 2003 or so, I did relatively little use of packagemanagement with my slackware stuff [16:02] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.57.155.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [16:02] But it is convienient [16:03] I was given a bad taste of it from a different distro [16:03] euklides_ (~euklides_@h95-155-239-237.dynamic.se.alltele.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] Is it possible to me a sym link for multiple directories? like /dir1/dir2/dir3/ -> /dir4? or do you just make dir1,2 and 3 is the only symlink? [16:03] laziness leads to slopiness [16:04] Iavor (~Iavor@unaffiliated/iavor) joined ##slackware. [16:04] enferex (enferex@ip72-218-189-96.hr.hr.cox.net) left ##slackware. [16:05] anyone with eeepc and intel graphics :)? [16:05] echtts (~echtts@189-46-211-13.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:05] ask your question. [16:05] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:05] im wondering how are the drivers for intel integrated graphics [16:05] under linux [16:05] :) [16:05] spook, not always - sometimes lazy people can be very good at finding efficient ways of doing things so they have to work elss :) [16:06] Iavor: it's ok [16:06] NyteOwl: think of the percentage of lazy people you know that are like that. [16:06] Iavor: i sometimes run kde +kwin effects and it can handle it alright [16:06] Iavor: just not spectacular, is all. [16:06] spook: not many I'll grant you, but a few. [16:06] right :) [16:07] because im thinking of buying a eeepc but im not decided which model yet [16:07] have to do a little research on drivers etc [16:07] :D [16:07] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [16:08] thanks notKlaatu [16:08] :) [16:09] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:09] no problem [16:10] i've run slack and fedora on mine, mostly. obviously slack+flux works....really really well. [16:10] Iavor: how'd the new kernel go ? [16:12] e2kb (~e2kb@201-25-209-101.jvece701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:12] I've been really happy with e17 from slackbuilds on my netbook. [16:13] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:14] e17 is so cool. [16:14] Iavor (~Iavor@unaffiliated/iavor) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [16:14] /agree [16:14] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [16:15] It's actually really polished now compared to earlier releases. [16:16] yeah i have it on my other laptop from the slackbuild. but they are supposed to do an official release soon , or did they just do that a few weeks ago? [16:18] that's interesting...haven't tried e17 in ages [16:20] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [16:20] Hey guys. [16:20] set up some choice keyboard shortcuts and it's kidna like flux on steroids, or at least that's how i think of it. [16:20] So I dunno what's going on but now more and more websites are telling me to upgrade to FF3.6, even though my FF IS 3.6 What should I do? [16:20] not sure [16:20] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:21] riza: http://whatsmyuseragent.com/ [16:21] It's very good lightweight alernative i fyou like minimal and it looks sick [16:21] notKlaatu: EFL always felt so nice on old my old machines [16:21] interesting toolkit [16:21] wedjat (wedjat@unaffiliated/wedjat) left ##slackware. [16:22] hugohagogo (~cleber@187.64.59.101) left irc: Quit: Elvis has left the building [16:22] -on old - can't type today [16:22] trhodes, amazing site, never seen it. [16:23] Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080702 Firefox/2.0.0.16 [16:23] hfplus w/ journaling is still unsupported by linux right? Does anyone recommend a file system that works in both linux/OSX that supports Journaling? NTFS is really the only one I can find right now but I can't repair any issues w/o a windows box [16:23] Hmmmmmmmm.... I dunno why it shows as FF2, how can I change my useragent? [16:23] and NTFS doesn't have journaling right..? [16:23] is it just me or does whatsmyuseragent.com have no idea what to make of konqueror? [16:23] haha indeed [16:24] i hit it in konq [16:24] notKlaatu: it does [16:24] you dont have an idea of what your user agent is konqueror is [16:24] konq makes it easy to change [16:24] i sometimes change it and forget to switch it back [16:25] most/all web browsers report as gecko nowadays for compatibility reasons [16:25] yeah [16:25] makes sense [16:25] riza, do you have an addon that changed your user agent in FF ? [16:25] trhodes, nope. [16:25] about:config and search for agent, it might me adjustable from there [16:26] not sure on that however [16:26] lol [16:26] Says my void my warranty. :| [16:26] *be [16:26] it was void to begin with :) [16:26] Okoay changed, how do I save it? D: [16:26] its already saved [16:27] Awesome. [16:29] pupiteee (~p@91.150.123.183) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:31] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [16:31] tripFantastic (1000@c-68-56-68-122.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:32] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@unaffiliated/raph0x88) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:32] re, finally got 12.2 installed on disembodied lappy-hd via a friend's desktop; install was incomplete abended bc of surrounding store closing, so i'll hafta finish config manwilly. [16:32] yay me. [16:33] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: ^D [16:34] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.198.84) joined ##slackware. [16:37] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.75.16) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:37] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.75.16) joined ##slackware. [16:38] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: riza [16:38] fn0rd (~fnord0@97-120-8-195.ptld.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [16:40] fnord0 (~fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:42] fn0rd (fnord0@97-120-8-195.ptld.qwest.net) left ##slackware. 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[16:52] d3m0n3 (~EviL@2001:470:d11a::c0ca) left irc: [16:52] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:52] Hello after compiling a new kernel i receive an output Kernel Panic when booting No filesystem could mount root, Unable to mount root [16:52] you prolly don't have support for your root filesystem in your kernel [16:53] good point, maybe the hdd is not been detected by the new kernel is what i guess [16:53] ? [16:54] not finding the drive would seem the same [16:54] DareDevil0: boot with slackware cd, mount your boot and root partition, chroot to the mount directory, read README.initrd and install one. [16:55] phrag (~phrag@79-64-229-145.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Changing host [16:55] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [16:55] phrag (phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left ##slackware. [16:55] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [16:55] DareDevil0: you forgot to compile in ext3 or ext4 support [16:55] you left them as modules, i'll bet [16:55] should be ext4 support i guess [16:55] because i have ext4 [16:55] file system [16:55] it's a mistake i made when i was first compiling my first kenel [16:55] in the root partition [16:56] yeah, try re-doing it, this time making sure ext4, if nothing else, is compiled into the kernel [16:56] either that or you get to do initrd stuff/ [16:56] somethink like.. mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.33 -m ext4 -f ext4 -r /dev/sda1 [16:56] yeah what phrag said. [16:56] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.75.16) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:57] ok first i will check the .config of the new kernel [16:57] then and see if the ext4 support is installed [16:57] if not i will recompile [16:57] if you compile it in (not module) you don't need initrd [16:57] how do i do that any guide or something? [16:57] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:58] DareDevil0: are you building your own custom kernel? [16:58] phrag, yeap [16:58] because i need support for my wireless [16:58] DareDevil0: do you have you config customised much from the generic? which config did you use as a template? [16:58] card [16:59] phrag, i did not do any change to the generic one [16:59] i let everything the way it was [16:59] but in order tu support [16:59] my wireless module i need to install the new kernel [16:59] which is 2.6.33.1 [16:59] kitche (~dragon@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:00] i suggest copying over the generic config that comes with slackware to /usr/src/linux-2.6.33/.config, make oldconfig then make menuconfig and include ext4 and your wireless card drivers as built in, and make / install your kernel as normal [17:02] ok [17:02] DareDevil0: did the slack wiki not advise that ? [17:03] nop [17:03] zounds (~zounds@80.85.119.158) joined ##slackware. [17:06] interesting [17:07] why? [17:07] notKlaatu, hold down there is a note in the beginning [17:08] of the compilation [17:08] instructions [17:08] francog (francog@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [17:09] phrag, you are very right i did not read well the Note instructions [17:09] there i have to use the oldconfig file [17:09] instead of creating a new one [17:10] cp /boot/config-generic-2.6.33 /usr/src/linux/.config && cd /usr/src/linux/ && make oldconfig && make menuconfig [17:11] something like that [17:11] LnxSlck (LnxSlck@89.214.21.38) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:11] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:12] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:12] well anyway i found out the entry in the menuconfig for supporting the ext4 file system so i will do it that way [17:12] because i dont have the old config file from the other kernel [17:13] is impresive all what you learn from one day to the other using slackware [17:13] and this is just the beginning [17:14] BillyBob81 (~BillyBob8@pool-71-98-27-142.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:15] newslacker (~kc@72-161-171-43.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [17:23] brklynRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:23] yeah yeah yeahhhhhh hahahaha [17:23] my first kernel well compiled [17:24] congratz.. [17:24] thanks everybody i am learning a lot phrag [17:24] the 2.6.34rc ? [17:24] notKlaatu, [17:24] linXea, [17:24] nope the 2.6.33.1 [17:24] DareDevil0: did it boot then ? [17:25] euklides_ (~euklides_@h95-155-239-237.dynamic.se.alltele.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:25] yeap i have an error in /usr/sbin/alsactl set_control failed to obtain info for control [17:25] when i boot [17:25] but a least it boot [17:25] and no panic [17:26] pupiteee (~p@93.87.121.160) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:26] /exec -o uname -a [17:26] let's see it then =) [17:26] quick noobie questions: does it matter if i compile a kernel on one machine and use the kernel on another? [17:26] and i also have my wireless card [17:26] hahahaha [17:27] kslen, well, you could use the same config etc.. I would NOT recommend using a pre-compiled kernel from another system [17:27] alrighty, thanks a bunch [17:27] kslen if the kernel is generic i guess you could do it [17:27] it would be compiled with the other systems hardware in mind [17:28] but you should not personalize a kernel and use it in a complete different hardware [17:28] DareDevil0: do an /exec -o uname -a [17:28] linXea, how can i solve this problem [17:28] Linux slacksixsix 2.6.29.6-rt24 #5 SMP Tue Dec 22 22:37:56 EST 2009 x86_64 Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU T4200 @ 2.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [17:28] it's just to save time. got a quad sitting here, while an old amd 2 ghz machine is compiling [17:28] No such file or directory is the output [17:29] oh [17:29] nevermind. [17:29] DareDevil0, what problem ? [17:29] valsiterb (~valsiterb@130.207.broadband7.iol.cz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:29] the one i have [17:29] sQuEE (~narya@201.252.25.192) left irc: Quit: fnord!! [17:29] linXea, i did /exec -o uname -a [17:29] well it works in irssi [17:29] sQuEE (~narya@201.252.25.192) joined ##slackware. [17:29] and the output is no such file or directory [17:30] xchat, irssi etc have support for /exec command [17:30] type that in the irc-client [17:30] Linux shevet-tower 2.6.29.6 #2 Mon Dec 7 17:31:46 CST 2009 i686 Pentium II (Deschutes) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [17:30] what for? [17:30] it shows the kernel nae like me and brklynRednek just did [17:30] to see your new kernel =) [17:30] Linux slackbox 2.6.29.6 #2 SMP Mon Aug 17 11:58:18 CDT 2009 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9600 Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux [17:31] oh wait DareDevil0 you are not on slack right now, you still have to install the wifi driver, correct? [17:31] linXea, i am using a different computer just let me connect the computer to the wireless network and i will show you [17:31] cst? it's EDT [17:31] notKlaatu, correct [17:31] how do i fix that? [17:31] notKlaatu, i also need an irc client for slackware console [17:31] because i don't have X yet [17:32] I like weechat and irssi, both text-based [17:32] DareDevil0: i suggest irsi [17:32] irssi, even [17:32] ok [17:34] freack (~frk@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [17:35] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-206.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [17:35] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:36] brklynRednek: try su -c "timeconfig" [17:37] had to look that one up in slackware essentials :P [17:37] kslen: it's perfectly normal for binaries (including kernel) to be built on one machine and run on another. afaik, the linux build process doesn't have its host's hardware "in mind" unless you tell it to do so. [17:38] gary_the_snail (~sibb@212.183.140.33) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:39] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [17:40] isnt that what all binary distributions incl. Slackware do? [17:40] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.57.155.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:40] of course [17:40] no, they have robust configurations with lots of modules [17:40] oh in that sense, yes [17:40] all distributions are binary. you can't execute source code [17:40] they're made on one machine and run on another [17:40] some may install things from source code but in the end they are installing binaries once they get compiled [17:41] you run binaries [17:41] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-68-59.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:41] some just take longer to install than others 8-) [17:41] Delahunt: please. some distributions like CRUX and Gentoo dont include prebuilt kernels [17:42] but in the end you have to have a binary kernel before you can boot them 8-) [17:42] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:43] Action: linXea love CRUX ^_^ [17:43] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-64-141.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:43] yeah but since this isnt really going nowhere im gonna rest again :) [17:43] CRUX64, very nice [17:43] it's just annoying when they say some distros are "source" distros, as if they're somehow better than binary distros [17:43] huge misconception [17:43] Naraku (supergear@c-24-8-72-236.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:44] in the end, a distribution that has executables is (on your hard drive) in binary form 8-) [17:44] they're different. Slackware users should appreciate differency if anything [17:44] as if binary is somehow a bad word ... 8-) [17:44] Action: Delahunt appreciates uniqueness [17:44] a binary isn't bad, but a closed source binary is [17:44] Action: adaptr hates differency [17:44] rbellamy (~rbellamy@adsl-69-105-233-172.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:45] Action: Delahunt doesn't appreciate distributions that try to spread FUD as if other distributions are bad just because they distribute binaries [17:45] thats not why they're bad [17:45] "they're" ? [17:46] thats not why they are bad [17:46] be careful with that word, slackware is a "binary" distro 8-) [17:46] no, "they' [17:46] re" is a valid contraction [17:46] Action: Delahunt stabs his enter key [17:47] ok you're asking if they are, not what is they're [17:47] well they're bad for some reason or they wouldn't be bad [17:47] as long as it's not closed binary Im good [17:48] linXea: so you don't have an nvidia card either, then ? [17:48] nope, ATI here... [17:48] thats all i have and not they're dropping nv support [17:48] but thats not really bad since they did it so half assed [17:48] s/not/now/ [17:49] here her [17:53] dErFz (~derf@188.72.255.195) left irc: Quit: sleep [17:54] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-421793.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:56] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [17:57] Wescotte (~WuzzleWaz@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:57] pupiteee (~p@93.87.121.160) joined ##slackware. [17:58] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.58.58) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [18:00] mannynix (~mannynix@200.92.173.96) joined ##slackware. [18:00] wait, ati and nvidia drivers are closed source, right? [18:01] Delahunt: only the ones they provide, fglrx and nvidia are their names IIRC [18:01] the xorg driver for nvidia was nv [18:01] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt7-port-193.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:02] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-188.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:03] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [18:05] BillyBob81 (~BillyBob8@pool-71-98-27-142.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Byebye... [18:05] BillyBob81 (~BillyBob8@pool-71-98-27-142.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:06] BillyBob81 (~BillyBob8@pool-71-98-27-142.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:06] BillyBob81 (~BillyBob8@pool-71-98-27-142.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:10] thieusoai (~tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:10] e2kb (~e2kb@201-25-209-101.jvece701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: Fui embora [18:12] Nick change: notKlaatu -> klaatu_notHere [18:12] adrenaline (~repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:12] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt3-port-47.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [18:13] dErFz (~derf@188.72.255.195) joined ##slackware. [18:14] Naraku (supergear@c-24-8-72-236.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:14] adrenaline (~repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] sigmund__ (~sigmund@pool-71-98-27-142.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:16] mcarter_ (~mcarter@217.155.40.178) joined ##slackware. [18:20] Delahunt: FYI, all radeons prior to the HD5xxx cards have 2D and 3D support via open source drivers (in addition to the proprietary driver for HD cards). [18:21] Delahunt: The specifications are provided by AMD (no need for an NDA, either) and they actively pay some of the developers working on the open source drivers. [18:21] adamk: how old are the hd5*** cards? [18:21] sahk0: Months. [18:21] oh, nice! [18:21] anyone know if and if so what package in sbo would install libcrypt? [18:21] so when people install them, they're installing source code? [18:21] sahk0: Maybe half a year. They have 2D modesetting support in the open drivers, but no acceleration yet. [18:21] er, compiling source code? [18:21] Delahunt: Well, unless they use the version in their distribution. [18:21] ok just asking [18:22] Delahunt, "installpkg" eg [18:22] Delahunt: For example, slackware -current supports those GPUs out-of-the-box. [18:22] cool [18:22] Delahunt: But, if you'd rather, you can compile newer versions, of course. [18:22] Action: Delahunt may have to get one of those cards in a desktop [18:22] I have an HD4850 that I can play doom3 and ut2004 on with open source drivers in Slackware. [18:23] There are certainly limitations, and 3D is faster with the proprietary drivers, but I'm quite happy with the open ones. [18:23] wait, my card has 3d support now? [18:23] ut, what card? [18:24] x1900xt [18:24] It has for over a year. [18:24] mcarter_ (~mcarter@217.155.40.178) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:24] oh, that's good. i wonder how i managed not to read that. [18:24] adamk, ever play second life? [18:24] ut: With the open source Xorg radeon driver, and the r300 Mesa driver. [18:24] Delahunt: I have not, sorry. [18:24] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt3-port-47.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:24] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.80.212) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:24] Delahunt: If you want to know if it works, you could ask on #radeon. [18:25] just asking. would you recommend one of those open source ati cards for a game that's almost totally in openGL? [18:25] Delahunt: It's really hard to say. It depends quite a bit on the game itself. [18:25] "open source ati cards"? [18:26] I think he means an ATI card for which there are open source drivers :-) [18:26] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.34.61) joined ##slackware. [18:31] adamk: what about power management stuff? [18:31] as in, EVERY ati card in existence ? [18:32] silly [18:32] adaptr: HD5xxx cards do not have acceleration with open source drivers. [18:32] just as there are open source nvidia drivers, but they suck [18:32] So, no, not every card :-) [18:32] adamk: not the definition. [18:32] suspending, resuming etc [18:32] "open source drivers" [18:32] doesn't specify what they support [18:32] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:32] it pays to be exact! [18:32] adaptr: In the context of the conversation, it's clear we were talking about acceleration. [18:33] adaptr: It pays to be a competent reader. [18:33] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:33] I didn't read back that far, as you can clearly see from my original comment :P [18:33] sahk0: suspend/resume work from what I've heard. Improved support for dynamically downclocking the GPU should be in 2.6.34, though there is basic support for it in 2.6.33, iirc. [18:33] there are no opensource nvidia drivers, fwiw [18:34] well, not in the same sense [18:34] There's nouveau and nv... Though nv is no longer being maintained by nvidia. [18:34] nouveau is capable of running compiz on some GPUs, even. [18:34] -nv is depreciated [18:34] official recommendation: "use vesa" :p [18:34] As I said, it's not being maintained by nvidia any more :-) [18:36] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-210-161.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [18:37] But you are right in that they certainly aren't anything like the open source radeon drivers, which has AMD's supoport. [18:37] support, even. [18:38] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:38] i wonder how long it will take for the nouveau devs to reach the state the open source ati drivers are now. probably many years [18:38] nah, I think redhat is pushing it, so probably much less [18:38] Many many years. It all has to be reverse engineered. [18:39] Polizei (~ninja@ninja.pfoo.org) joined ##slackware. [18:39] Polizei (~ninja@ninja.pfoo.org) left irc: Client Quit [18:39] Having said that, I've heard the radeon developers speak very highly of the lead nouveau guy. [18:40] naw, he's more like pewter :P [18:42] grua (~grua@brln-4d0c7460.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:46] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [18:47] ut: Oh, I remember what I wanted to say... I get better performance in doom3 with an x1900 that I do with an HD4850 (both using open source drivers). The r300 driver has quite mature, though it's still lacking opengl 2.0 support unless you compiled the experimental gallium3d driver. [18:48] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [18:48] nice. [18:48] Action: ut has only had bad performance with some 3d desktop thing he was fiddling with, and failed to get eve to run under wine [18:49] adamk, thanks [18:49] Yeah, wine is heavily geared towards the nvidia drivers, so the open source and proprietary fglrx drivers can sometimes be hit-or-miss. [18:49] Delahunt: No problem. I wish you luck, whatever you happen to decide. [18:50] that's good to know, anyways. thanks. [18:51] Thankfully the driver developers and wine developers are communicating more than they were before. [18:54] how do i configure the wireless network [18:54] interface [18:54] to connect to an access point [18:54] rc.inet1.conf [18:55] and, should you require an encrypted network, /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [18:55] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network is good [18:55] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:56] thrice`, but that is only to configure the interface but where do i put all the other options like the ssid, the password the encription etc [18:56] I think I answered that too [18:56] Does anyony know where I can find good docu on how to setup a slackware https server? [18:57] you put the SSID stuff in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf ; if you need to connect to, eg, a WPA2 network, you also specificy it to use wpa_supplicant in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf, and then have the correct wpa_supplicant.conf file ready for the network [18:58] thrice`, i have to use wep, i wil read the slackbook [18:58] thrice`: wpa_s can connect to WEP too [19:03] merciful: the apache docs [19:04] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host217-42-253-227.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:05] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt2-port-173.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [19:06] Nick change: tuvok302Lappy -> tuvok302 [19:09] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:09] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:11] brbrbr (~basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:11] ron1n (~ron1n@70.44.172.13.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [19:11] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:11] hey guys, does the slackware usb installer launch an ssh server on boot? [19:12] I know some other distros do. I'm just trying to avoid digging up a PS/2 keyboard. [19:13] etc/rc.d/rc.dropbear yes [19:13] trhodes, awesome, thanks [19:13] dropbear_start $ i think it the argument to start it [19:13] s/$/# [19:14] so it doesn't start automatically? [19:15] no, don't think so [19:15] nevermind, just plain 'ol etc/rc.d/rc.dropbear start is what you do [19:15] I see, so I'll need to connect a keyboard regardless to start it. [19:16] Oh well. At least I can finish it up from my android handset. [19:16] you can configure the installer to start it , though it's probably not worth the effort in your case [19:16] you could edit the initrd ;) [19:16] pprkut, trhodes thanks, but I'll pass =P [19:16] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-44-8.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:17] once the boot: prompt times out and starts the system, I should be able to use a USB keyboard anyway now that I think about it. [19:17] yeah, my bios doesn't like usb and most of the time I can use my usb keyboard [19:18] brbrbr (~basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [19:18] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-68-59.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:18] this machine is rather dated. It's a Fujitsu Stylistic 3500. Doesn't like usb keyboards in preboot scenarios. [19:19] slackd00d (~slackd00d@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) joined ##slackware. [19:20] yeah, mine's old, but should support usb ; the bios is messed up and i have to turn on usb support with a PS/2 keyboard if I want usb at boot time [19:21] Man, thats lame. The on board digitizer works fine in the BIOS, so up until now I could get away without a PS/2 keyboard [19:21] mannynix (~mannynix@200.92.173.96) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:23] if i try to configure the wlan interface i get the SIOCSIFFLAGS error [19:23] No such file or directory [19:25] DareDevil0, how are you attempting to configure it? [19:25] by using ifconfig wlan0 up [19:25] command [19:25] pastebin the output of iwconfig [19:25] when i used that command i obtain that error [19:25] DareDevil0, I have that error before, in my case it's missing firmware problem [19:26] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.83) joined ##slackware. [19:26] i can pastebin that since i dont have access to the internet in that computer [19:26] I think I may have gotten it by specifying the wrong interface name [19:26] but when i do ifconfig the wlan0 does not shows [19:26] DareDevil0, well, are you sure the interface is wlan0? [19:26] yeap [19:27] when i do iwconfig wlan0 [19:27] the interface is shown [19:27] hmm well, thats all I got. [19:27] Missing firmware sounds likely [19:27] broadcom ? [19:27] how do i know if the firmware is missing [19:27] yeap [19:27] ahh, that's likely then [19:27] broadcom b4312 [19:28] That stuff is non-free and non-distributable [19:28] what should i do? [19:28] 4318 here: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=194174 [19:29] ok [19:29] DareDevil0, essentially, put a copy of the firmware into /lib/firmware if I recall. [19:30] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#device_firmware_installation [19:30] where do i find a copy of the firmware? [19:30] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:30] ok i will read [19:31] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-1-223.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [19:32] johnbristol (~johnbrist@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:32] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-206.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:33] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [19:33] I wrote the x86-64bit usb installer to the disk and tried install it on a Celeron -_- [19:34] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@a85-139-11-39.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:35] Nick change: klaatu_notHere -> notKlaatu [19:37] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-44-8.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [19:40] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-54-234.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[19:48] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:49] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:50] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [19:50] Hello, my time hasn't updated! How can I push it forward 1 hour? [19:50] DareDevil0 (~Secret@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:51] weee! [19:51] ntpdate time-a.nist.gov will work [19:52] use tzselect to select the right timezone btw [19:52] o.o [19:53] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Quit: Elektro [19:53] I already selected the correct timezone via tzselect. [19:53] Gotta do daylight saving. [19:53] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:54] ntpdate time-a.nist.gov [19:54] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [19:54] Bottom right still shows 6:54 when it should be 7:54. D: [19:54] Do I have to reboot? [19:54] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:54] no, you shouldn't... [19:54] shegman (~shegman@port-92-193-4-116.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [19:55] riza: type 'date'. see if it shows the correct time zone [19:55] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-149-5.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [19:55] riza: when the time is updated(ie, when a minute passes), it may update the hour to the correct value. an easier way to check is to do with anake said [19:55] Sat Mar 27 19:54:57 EDT 2010 [19:55] Wait wait wait it fixed. [19:55] Okay yay! [19:55] lol [19:55] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [19:56] forgot about date [19:57] Thank you guys. [19:57] Thank you Necos. [19:57] np... :) [20:01] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-149-5.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:02] i use openntpd [20:02] it works beautifully although it failed on the leap second previous year [20:02] it didn't update anything after that so i had to restart it [20:03] BillyBob81 (~BillyBob8@pool-71-98-27-142.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Goodbye. [20:03] tuvok302 (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt2-port-173.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby [20:04] BillyBob81 (~BillyBob8@pool-71-98-27-142.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:06] getting an error when trying to start wicd... but i'm a member of netdev... [20:06] shegman (~shegman@port-92-193-4-116.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:06] Necos: when starting the wicd daemon or client interface? [20:06] wicd-gtk [20:06] Necos: what is the error? [20:07] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-149-5.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [20:07] Unable to contact the Wicd daemon due to an access denied error from DBus. Please check that your user is in the netdev group. [20:08] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [20:09] did you restart dbus? [20:09] i mean, i'm connected to an AP by using iwconfig + dhcpcd... but it kind of defeats the purpose of trying to use wicd >.> [20:10] nope, haven't restarted dbus... i thought it was supposed to start by itself [20:10] oh wait... rc.messagebus [20:10] DareDevil017 (~daredevil@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:10] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:11] there we go... [20:11] When i do make oldconfig where do i find the .config file that is created? [20:11] that's what i forgot to do [20:11] now i get the tray icon [20:12] but it's not picking up any APs [20:12] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.239) joined ##slackware. [20:12] did you also read /usr/doc/wicd-1.7.0/README.SLACKWARE ? [20:12] I am compiling the kernel when i do make oldconfig where i find the .config file? [20:12] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:13] DareDevil017 (~daredevil@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:13] it's in the kernel directory [20:13] or s/1.7.0/1.6.2 [20:13] or whats in 13.0 [20:13] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) joined ##slackware. [20:13] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [20:13] i upgraded to current, so it's 1.7.0 [20:13] you need a clean /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [20:14] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-118-67.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [20:14] i cleaned it out already [20:14] DareDevil018 (~daredevil@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:14] upppsss is hidden [20:14] it's /usr/src/linux/.config [20:15] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-54-234.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:15] i got it now thank you [20:16] cool [20:16] when i copy .config to the new kernel src i only have to compile ?' [20:16] yes [20:16] ok [20:16] DareDevil018: you copy the old .config into the new kernel's directory, run make oldconfig, and then compile [20:17] __slax0r_ (fire@slackware.x-shells.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [20:17] cat /proc/config.gz >/usr/src/linux/.config (if you want to use the same config as the running kernel) [20:17] ok i did make oldconfig in the old kernel then i copied the .config to new kernel src, now i am going to use menuconfig to edit the .config and compile am i ok? [20:19] DareDevil018: you make oldconfig in the new kernel's directory with the old .config present [20:19] DareDevil018: it only offers the new options [20:20] DareDevil018: then, if you want to change anything else, you could use menuconfig [20:21] ok i already did it i am compiling right now thank you [20:21] DareDevil018 (~daredevil@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Java user signed off [20:21] DareDevil011 (~daredevil@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:22] DareDevil011 (~daredevil@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:22] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-118-67.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:23] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [20:23] thieusoai (~tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:23] Would recompiling the kernel help to minimize the RAM used by kernel processes? 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[21:20] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.170.44.255) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:21] nathanbw (~nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:24] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.198.84) left irc: Changing host [21:24] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@unaffiliated/raph0x88) joined ##slackware. [21:25] decompress zip slackware?\ [21:25] Nick change: DareDevil012 -> DareDevil0 [21:25] http://pastebin.com/AEd4AMC7 I am having trouble running a 32-bit program called mrmonitord on slackware64-current with alienBOB multilib + compat32 packages made from slackware-current... please see pastebin [21:29] what does "ldd /usr/local/bin/mrmonitord" say ? [21:32] sirslacker (~sirslacke@p579B54A1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:35] it says nothing at all [21:35] Man, 'touch' just rocked my world. I had about 12 GB of pictures on a NAS that had incorrect timestamps, so rsync was about to re-pull the entire tree. find + touch -r saved the day. [21:35] and when touch is not enough, there's stroke [21:36] how about grope? [21:36] that would be the logical successor to stroke [21:36] thrice`: oh.. wait... ldd.. I will pastebin.com that ... hold on [21:36] No stroke here :-( [21:36] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:37] nathanbw: i don't know many distros that include it. it has a few more features than touch, namely it can adjust ctime [21:37] http://stroke.sourceforge.net/ [21:37] ldd /usr/local/bin/mrmonitord: http://pastebin.com/xzS9NWkf [21:37] ananke, ah cool, it's real! Nice. [21:38] yes, it is. despite the aweful name [21:38] heaumer (~heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:38] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:40] heaumer (~heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [21:40] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:41] Anyone here running -current with a nvidia 250 GTS? [21:41] przemoc (~przemoc@chello089072164150.chello.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:42] nathanbw: i run a GT 240... I just installed the lastest binary driver yesterday on my linux 2.6.33.1 kernel, and it installed fine [21:42] There are some fans in my computer which stay at full speed when running -current. At first I thought it was my just-recently-supported temperature sensor, but after loading the correct modules, no fans slowed down [21:42] przemoc (~przemoc@chello089072164150.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [21:42] So I think it's my video card fan I'm hearing [21:43] foobarz, does the card run quietly using the nvidia driver? [21:43] nathanbw: yes, it seems quiet enough... my case has a lot of acoustic damping and soundproofing though [21:44] nathanbw: the noisy fan in my computer is the cpu cooler [21:44] foobarz, thanks. What CPU are you running [21:45] nathanbw: Xeon X3450 with Dynatron K650 cooler [21:45] Here, I've got the Intel Core i5, and the temperature sensor in question is the fintek f71889fg [21:46] Also, the stock cooler. (It's /much/ quieter under other, proprietary OSes ;-)) [21:46] nathanbw: i cannot monitor my fan speeds yet, because i cannot figure out how to run ipmisensors and get my winbond monitoring chip to show anything [21:47] adrenaline (~repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:47] Kaapa (~Something@bl10-166-144.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:47] adrenaline (~repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:48] nathanbw: i got the stock fan in a box in case my cooler ever gets too noisy [21:48] foobarz, nice. I think my build is doomed to be noisy [21:49] I (apparently) got one of the noisiest power supplies [21:49] shred penis [21:49] Kaapa (~Something@bl9-248-3.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [21:49] i turned my fans on maximum in the bios and it was unreal... the sound of the cpu fan was unbelieveably loud, but on normal fan settings it runs much slower and and barely makes any sound [21:49] and to top it off, my APC UPS unit went bad, and the refurbished unit APC sent me (which was nice of them to do) is almost as noisy as the PC itself (and quite noisier than my 3 year old laptop.) [21:50] When current is running on my new desktop, I can hear the fans from every room in my apartment. [21:51] yeah, I have dead APC ups boxes, never learned how to replace the battery [21:52] foobarz, sadly, it was even the battery in mine. Apparently the model I have fries itself. Something apparently went awry with the circuitry in the UPS itself [21:53] i have a 750W PSU but my UPS box is only 500W right now... not sure it is that bad.. i don't think i'm running close to 500W, but i should get a new UPS for like 750W rating [21:53] foobarz: can i have your old one? [21:53] Mine's rated for 900, but I don't think I've come close to that... [21:54] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.34.61) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:54] thrice`: hi.. did you see my ldd output? [21:55] foobarz, yeah, looks fine :( [21:55] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-168-104.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:55] Oh Amarok, why does your "rescan collection" menu entry have to be right beneath the "update collection" entry? [21:56] heya,slackers [21:56] Howdy MLanden [21:56] i had NVRM: xid freezes the other day, but i think the new nvidia driver fixed that... i had that kind of problem years ago on a defective 694D-Pro dual P3-800MHZ board... would suck bad to have that problem again [21:57] heya,nathanbw [21:57] foobarz, no doubt. Bad hardware is the worst. For awhile I thought my laptop's video hardware was going, but it turned out to just be a flaky driver :-) [21:58] adrenaline (~repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:59] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.34.61) joined ##slackware. [22:00] how do i get ipmisensors working? i compiled into my kernel everything i could find about ipmi while looking through make menuconfig, but must need something else like IPMI_SENSORS or something? 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[23:46] danklesman (~user@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:47] MrJackson (~MrJackson@173-86-33-103.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:48] DareDevil0 (~root@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:48] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [23:48] Hey people [23:48] rworkman: <3 [23:48] Guess who is using irssi from slackware 13.0 with the WLAN configured ha, is me DareDevil [23:49] with a broadcom ? [23:49] trhodes: after several hours yes with a broadcom [23:49] good job. [23:49] thanks to all of you [23:49] fw-cutter help me to do the job [23:49] "after several hours yes" ^ooo^ [23:49] you're welcome [23:51] ok now that i have my network working [23:51] i want to install xfce [23:52] but before that everytime i restart the computer i have to load the module [23:53] how can i slackware boot and load the module automatically? [23:55] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:57] DareDevil0: i don't know if this is the approved method or not, but i put an insmod line in my /etc/rc.d/rc.local file [23:58] hi, i normally use slackware, I am currently on an ubuntu machine, did apt-get mc but mc's lines and such are all messed. like the term is set wrong, but its all set to xterm like it is in slackware, and it always works great in slackware. anyone have any idea how to fix this? i try setting term info to "linux" and no luck there either [23:58] MrJackson (~MrJackson@173-86-33-241.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [23:58] such as echo "insmod /lib/module/2.6.29.rt24/kernel/net/wireless/b43.ko" >> /etc/rc.d/rc.local [23:59] Better to use modprobe [23:59] modprobe b43 should do it. [23:59] What module? [23:59] ah [23:59] oh ok [23:59] Nothing should be needed then - that should load automatically :/ [00:00] --- Sun Mar 28 2010