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Glock 22 Hogue P220 PX4 Storm Talon Grips

Making up for lost time…

What have I been doing while quarantined?

Well,  I bought Hogue rubber grips (with finger grooves) for my PX4 Storm Compact.  I’ve been carrying that gun the last 6 weeks, non-stop.  I’m not sure why I moved from the XD45 to the PX4, but when I was going through the safe and checking to ensure the firearms weren’t in need of oil, I noticed (again) that the PX4’s grip is rather slick.

I researched online to see what others were using to enhance the grip of this gun.  I didn’t want to use Talon Grips, because that involves adhesive.  I have Talon Grips on my Glock 22 and it was a pain to ensure they were in the correct spot (and then I had to heat up the tape to ensure they stuck).

I have Hogue grips on my Sig P220.  I like the way they feel (I like that slightly tacky rubbery feel), so I decided to go with Hogue again.

These grips work very well for this handgun but one con is that they make the grip thicker in girth than it already is (it’s thick enough without adding anything).  They feel very good, though.  They were also a bit difficult to install, as the rubber is stiff (it is recommended to use a heat gun or hair dryer to heat up the rubber, which makes the rubber more pliable – I didn’t use either).

I bought some other toys for other firearms as well, but I’ll post about those separately.

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Bersa Dragon Fire EFK G19 G22 Glock 19 Glock 22 Thunder Plus

Latest Happeninigs

What’s been going on?

I ordered a new OEM recoil spring for the Glock 22.  In fact, I ordered two of them.  I still haven’t contacted EFK Dragon Fire regarding the failed Glock 22 recoil spring that I bought last year.  Well, I contacted them via e-mail but they never responded.  I can contact them via phone but I feel if they’re ignoring their emails, I may as well review the spring in a negative light and write off the failure and not do business with them in the future.

How’s the Glock 22 with the new OEM spring?  It’s good enough, although the gun’s recoil is still quite strong.  I took it to the range, thinking the high grain would dampen the recoil some.  Nope, it’s not enough IMO.  The high recoil of this handgun is why I bought the EFK Dragon Fire spring in the first place.  I think the better route would be for me to get a Gen 4 Glock 22…the double spring is almost certainly going to handle the recoil of .40 Cal better than the Gen 2’s single spring, but I only bought the G22 because it was cheap and because I could use the RIA 22TCM9R convert kit with the G22 frame.

As well, the G22 sights aren’t helping me…the tritium vials are dark so the sights are difficult to use.  I do not really want to spend huge amounts of money on this particular handgun.

Now, even though I shot the G22 and noticed the recoil wasn’t what I’d like it to be, I appear to be a bit more accurate with the gun now with the new OEM recoil spring.  That’s something, at least, but the recoil was enough to where I only shot 30 rounds from the gun (2 mags).  I brought 180-grain Remington green/white box ammo.  There were no failures.

I then bought 150 rounds of 115-grain Wolf steel-cased ammo from my Gen 4 Glock 19.  There were no failures.  The gun now has 310 rounds through it.  I’m not used to it.  It has recoil that I’m not used to, probably due to the fact that I’ve been carrying and shooting metal-framed handguns the past 2-3 years.  I’ve been thinking on carrying this particular gun but will need lots of time shooting it before I’m comfortable with the shooting characteristics.  Plus, I want to get 15-round OEM mags for the gun (it came with 10-round OEM mags).  We’ll see.

I said I’ve been thinking on carrying the G19.  Why?  Because I also shot my current carry gun (I only carry one firearm at a time), the Bersa Thunder 380 Plus, and I’m still experiencing sharp biting on the web of my strong hand.  I shot 100 rounds of Speer Lawman 95-grain FMJ this time around.  I shot this same ammo the last two times I shot the Bersa.  My range notes say that I noticed sharp bites in May 2017 as well.  When I shot the gun prior to this last range visit (Oct 2017), I didn’t noticed the sharp biting and I shot that same ammo.  I’m tiring of the biting, so it may be time to train on a different handgun.

I can still carry my Beretta PX4 Storm, but it is rather thick…that’s the only turn-off in carrying that handgun.  I can also carry the Sig SP2022 but it’s not a small gun either (roughly the same size and thickness as my PX4).  I’ve the XD Mod 2 that I can start carrying again, or even the Grand Power P11 (once I have Eagle Imports investigate the fails to return to battery).

Lastly, I’m having an issue with arthritis in my fingers and it sometimes makes shooting uncomfortable.  This really sucks because there’s no real way to mitigate shooting complications caused by arthritis, other than to move to low calibers, which I’m not going to do.  As well, I carry a .380 and that still causes pain (not in my fingers, but in the webbing between thumb and finger).  I may have to just put up with it or medicate myself before a range visit.  :/

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EFK Recoil Spring/Rod Assembly Has Arrived

UPDATE (5/5/2017): had an issue with the recoil spring (it deconstructed itself) and the end screw has disappeared.  Awaiting word from EFK on if they’re going to send me another one.

So, I had a present arrive in my mailbox today, the EFK recoil spring assembly for my newly acquired Glock 22 Gen 3 handgun.

I was surprised, as the shipping info had stated that the package would arrive 17 Jan.  It was actually 2-day shipping.

The OEM spring that I have is worn…it almost falls off of the barrel link on it’s own.  It barely takes any effort to get it on.  The spring has lost its tensioning, I believe, but I’ve never owned a Gen 3 Glock, so I don’t know if that is normal.  All I know is that it barely passes the recoil spring test.

I pulled out the OEM spring and put in the EFK spring assembly.  It fits as I feel the OEM should, with a bit of effort.

The big deal is that the spring is stiff enough to where I’m having difficulty racking it back.  I can rack it but if I need to lock the slide back with the slide lever, it takes quite an effort, especially the more I try it.

I hope it breaks in.  If not, I might have to go back to OEM.

That’s another thing I need to try.  I need to get an OEM spring to see how different it is than the one that came with this gun.  OEM may be fine for me.  I just need to see if I can find a store that has them locally…getting tired of having things shipped to me (shipping and the pain of waiting for the parts to arrive is annoying).

The real reason I bought the EFK spring is to see if it lessens recoil significantly.  I’ve the feeling it will, but at the cost of being ultra stiff to the point where the gun is difficult to rack back.

Maybe I can visit the range this weekend to give it a test (or maybe I should wait to get the OEM spring and test them both in one session).

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Glock 22 Gen 3 – Range Visit

This range visit consisted of shooting three handguns – the Grand Power P11, the Glock 22 Gen 3, and the Canik TP9SA.

Why this combination?

The Glock 22 is a full sized service pistol that is striker-fired and is polymer.  The only other handgun that I have that is similar (in size, in MoA, and in material make-up) is the Canik TP9SA.  The only other guns that I have that are of similar size are fully metal (the Sig Sauer P220 Equinox and the Metro Arms American Classic Commander, both shooting .45 ACP).  I felt that it was unfair to compare those two handguns to the Glock 22 since their mass would negate some recoil.

The Glock 22 is snappy in Gen 3 configuration.  In fact, I had a difficult time with it, which is odd, because I’ve fired .40 in the past without issue, but those guns were all-metal too, so there is that.

The recoil was bad for me.  I didn’t have any malfunctions (no limp-wristing here) but my aim was wayyyy off (probably has nothing to do with recoil and everything to do with not being used to the trigger on this particular gun.   I fired 50 rounds of Federal 165-grain FMJ, so the ammo wasn’t even hot.  I need to work on my aim because I don’t think the recoil was messing with it.  If I squeeze properly, the round will be out of the gun before recoil can affect the bullet’s path, so again, I need to focus on trigger pull with this gun.  The trigger is not stock.  It has a 5.5-lb trigger, from Glock, I believe, that was put in as part of a police package (it is a LEO trade-in).  I think that’s what has me confused.  My other Glock’s trigger is nothing like the one on this gun.

Also, the recoil is making the trigger rub harshly against my trigger finger as it pushes the gun up, so I have a sore spot on the underside of my trigger finger that might blister.  I tried altering the way I shoot so that it would quit rubbing and I could not.

I grabbed some Talon grips for the Glock 22 on the way out of the range facility.  They are now installed.  I’m not sure if I like the grips, as they are extremely aggressive in texture and my hands are a bit raw just from installing them.  I’ve no doubt they’ll help me in dealing with the recoil, but I may have to see if I can make them a bit less abrasive.  I’m glad I’ve no plans to carry this gun…these grips will rub holes in my clothing.

Talon Grips for the Glock 22 Gen 3

Also, when I take apart or put together the gun, I’ve noticed the recoil spring seems a bit weak…I can install it or remove it with very little effort…it almost falls out and is very easy to get into place.  I’m not sure it’s supposed to be this loose.  I’m probably going to order a new one.

I’ve read that the Gen 4 Glock 22’s double-springed recoil spring guide works great in lessening recoil for that generation of G22.  It’s a pity that they can’t be used with Gen 3s.

I’ve also found that .40 isn’t all that much more expensive than .45ACP or 9mm.  I bought 100 rounds of .40 S&W for $18 a box (two boxes).

The sights are difficult to see at the range.  They don’t show as dots.  I’m wondering if that was my issue, but I don’t think it was, since I was trying to use the front sight’s shadow to align it properly between the rear sight’s “forks”.  I should’ve been hitting closer to the red.  I did catch myself not using both eyes a few times, too…that may have been the issue.

I know I bought this gun so that I can use it with the 22TCM 9R conversion kit, but even with the recoil issues, it is fun to try something different.  It’s OK to mix things up, even if I couldn’t hit the damned bulls-eye at 7 yards with 50 rounds.  🙂  :/

A picture of the first few rounds out of the gun (well, MY first few rounds):

7 yards, Glock 22 Gen 3 – 15 rounds of Federal 165-grain FMJ.  Big bang with big recoil
7 yards, Canik TP9SA – 17 rounds of  Remington 115-grain FMJ. Yes, I’m having trigger issues.  I haven’t fired this gun in over a year.  Still, I nailed the red several times — couldn’t do that with the G22.

I had no issues with the Canik TP9SA.  I fired 50 rounds of Remington 115-grain FMJ without issue, other than I was shooting left of the target even though most of those would probably be considered kill shots (see above).

How does it shoot compared to the G22?  There’s almost no recoil, for one, but I knew that before I compared them.  As exceptional as the G22’s 5.5lb trigger is, the Canik’s is still better, by a large margin.  It’s that good.

I also fired 50 rounds of Remington 115-grain FMJ from the Grand Power P11 too.  These were hang-up free rounds…no FTF or FTEs.  No fails to return to battery.  Here’s the target:

7 yards, Grand Power P11 – some rapid fire, Remington 115-grain, 35 rounds…LOTS of shots in the red.

I continue to get better with this handgun (see above picture).  I even tried 5 shots strong hand only (one-handed, right-handed).  This is the first time I’ve done this.  The first shot was WAY left.  The other 4 shots hit the head.  It was easy to do with this gun.  There was next to no recoil.  The last 15 shots went all over the place…I might have been fatigued by then.

That makes 866 rounds out of the Grand Power.  We’re getting closer and closer to the 1000 mark.

The next range visit will include the Glock 22.  We’ll see if we can tame the recoil.

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Gen 3 Glock 22 Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore Trijicon

Glock 22 Gen 3 Has Arrived!

So, I picked up the gun today.  It was listed as fair condition on the website.  I think they under-rated it.  There’s hardly any slide wear, there’s NO wear/tear on the grips (I think it had Talon grips on it because the grips are a tad bit sticky, but that would explain the lack of wear/tear).  There’s a sticker on the box that says “TNS”, meaning the sights are Trijicon night sights; they still have some glow to them.  The sticker also has “5.5lb” which means it has a 5.5lb trigger.  Not only that, that trigger is very nice…there’s little take up, and the trigger is crisp…it also has very little reset.  PD trigger.  The gun was listed as only having one mag, but it came with two.  The case has everything a new Gen 3 Glock 22 would have.  The gun had a sticker with the pricing of $399.  I got it for $319.  It was $30 for the transfer, which I couldn’t avoid.  I couldn’t have found a cheaper Glock in the same condition…no way.

I basically stole this gun.  That site is dangerous. I’ll definitely be looking for other potential buys.  My next Glock might be a Glock 29, but I probably won’t find bargains or police trade-ins for a G29.

So, I’ve a range visit in my future.  Hopefully, I can go tomorrow, as they’ll be closed on Sunday and Monday (Jan 1st and 2nd).  I need to visit Walmart for ammo.  🙂

More pictures of the G22 with a G19 Gen 4 and Canik TP9SA:

Glock 22 and TP9SA

Glock 22 and TP9SA

Glock 22 and TP9SA

Glock 22 and TP9SA

Glock 19 and Glock 22

Glock 19 and Glock 22

Glock 19 and Glock 22

Glock 19, Glock 22, and TP9SA

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Glock 22 Inbound!

I came into a bit of money this month (owner of the company I’m working for gave me $200 as an impromptu bonus since I’m still a contract-to hire worker).

I used the money to fund a Glock 22 Gen 3 purchase.  It’s funded 2/3rds of the cost of the gun.  “Say what?” you say?  I found a used police trade-in Glock 22 Gen 3 at Sportsman Outdoor Superstore.  For $319.  I’ve not seen it yet but they sell them as Fair Condition.  The comments of previous buyers say that they received theirs in better condition than listed.  Plus, they sell with one 15-round mag but many people have been reporting that theirs arrived with 2 mags.  Some of the guns have metal sights and even tritium sights.  I’ve no idea what mine will have.

This will be my first .40 caliber handgun.  I’ve fired .40 before so I know what to expect.  Well, maybe not.  The .40 I fired was a Sig.  This is a Glock.  I’m not sure there will be a difference but we’ll find out.

I intend to use this as a range gun.  I may not even fire much .40 out of it because I’ve an ulterior motive in buying the gun.  I’m going to buy a 22TCM9R conversion kit for it.  9R ammo a tad shorter than the normal 22TCM ammo…it’s designed to fit into 9mm/40 mags.  I will not have to worry about finding non-spec mags to use with this conversion.  The kit comes with a slide and barrel.  The slide is compensated.  Whenever I feel the need to go back to .40, I can just swap back the Glock barrel, slide, and recoil spring assembly.  Hell, I can convert my 22TCM 1911 to shoot 9R…I already have 1911 mags that fit in the gun (it came ready to shoot either 9mm or 22TCM)…all I need is 9R ammo to use the 9mm mags, otherwise I have to use .38 Super mags.

So, the used Glock was $319.  The conversion kit is very difficult to find and if I order from Armscor, it may take up to a year for them to get one to me.  The pricing is high for the kit, as well.  MSRP is $431 but I’ve seen others reporting getting them for $100 less.  So, I’m going to end up with a $650 specialized Glock.  So be it…I don’t care.

Now, I could’ve gone another route in doing this.  I also have a Glock 19.  They’re planning to make a similar kit that’ll fit G19s and G23s, but I’ve been waiting for them to hit the streets for about a year…I’ve heard nothing but crickets.  The G22 conversion kit will also fit G17s, but I wanted the option of firing .40.  Hell, if I wanted I could get a Lone Wolf 9mm barrel for the G22 and that gun would end up firing 3 different calibers out of it.  🙂

We’ll see how things develop.  As it it, I may have to wait awhile for the 9R conversion kit…everyone appears to be sold out of them.