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1911 2011 9mm Alpha Foxtrot Attila double-stack

Thoughts To share Regarding Alpha Foxtrot and the Attila

I’m still in the process of shooting 1000 rounds through the Alpha Foxtrot Attila. I’m at 702 rounds, so far.

What I’ve been wondering is, why is Alpha Foxtrot not sending T&E Attilas to the firearms press (press and influencers). I think that’s odd, because they’ve been doing it with their other guns – the Romulus and AF S15.

I wonder if they’re having issues with this gun, to the point that they’re not sending the gun to influencers to review. If things were that bad, you’d think they’d not have them within public circulation. I’m not sure things are that bad, but AF not sending out test guns is odd.

As well, there were no YT entities reviewing guns that they actually bought, which I also think is odd.

Another oddity is that AF’s product page for the Attila is bare of details. That page has no gun stats and no indication that the gun is in public circulation.

I have the honor of being the first non SHOT Show reviewer of this gun, but the second would be GBGuns on YouTube.

Here’s is review of the gun.

While I’ve had the gun a few months, I only had one of his issues with my gun.

He reported and demonstrated that only one of his two safety levers worked – the right-side lever worked intermittently. I had that issue, as well. Also, I know of two other owners that had the same issue. I detail stripped the gun (to document which internal parts are MIM) and noticed the ambi safeties were easy to remove (usually they are not easy), and that immediately grabbed my attention. I’m thinking that maybe the parts weren’t installed correctly because when reassembling the gun, it was difficult to align the two levers to install them, which is normal. The right lever was functioning.

His other issues were that the gun wasn’t accurate and upon further investigation, he found two issues: 1) the barrel and comp had exessive play, which would affect accuracy – a possible barrel lockup issue; 2) there were copper marks on the inside of his comp – they appear to be bullet strikes.

Another issue he had wasn’t with the gun but was with AF’s customer support. They initially said that they wouldn’t conduct warranty work on the safety since it was deemed an intermittent issue – that doesn’t even make sense, because a safety needs to work every time you enable/disable it. The also initially didn’t want to investigate it for possible lockup issues. They asked him to send a video showing the issue. He sent a portion of the review footage of him troubleshooting the issue and he thinks they noticed that he was a YouTube entity. They changed up and wanted to see the gun to remedy all of the issues.

This is both embarrassing to me and also quite hokey for AF.

I’m a GBGuns Patreon member. There are a bunch of us. We donate funds so that GBGuns can conduct his reviews. Every so often, we vote on guns for him to review. I was one of the members who voted for this gun. I’ve this gun, as well as the AF S15 and, since GBGuns hadn’t ever reviewed an Alpha Foxtrot, I wanted to see his thoughts on the gun. I never considered that he’d receive a bad gun. So, I felt bad. Now, rationally, there were like 40+ others that also voted as I did, so this isn’t something I needed to take blame for, but I consider myself to be pretty knowledgeable about the AF brand, so I was taken by surprise since I’ve rarely heard of this many QC issues with a particular verion of S15.

Also, I was somewhat shocked at how Alpha Foxtrot handled the situation. They only agreed to take the gun in for repair when they suspected that GBGuns was a YouTube entity. I could have issues with mine – would they refuse warranty work in such a case? I’m not a huge YouTuber or influencer. While I think I trust my particular gun, if I have issues with it, I’m doubting that Alpha Foxtrot would fix things – not after seeing what GBGuns experienced. And they still need to fix that gun’s issues.

As well, GBGuns said that manufacturers that do this are untrustworthy and that gun makers such as Bul Armory wouldn’t do such a thing. Yeah, well, they did with me – remember that grip safety issue that I have with my Bul Armory Ultralight? It was sent to them twice and the problem always recurred after 60 days or so. It happened a third time and I opted to not send it back – it’s obvious that they either refuse to fix it or are unable to properly fix it.

I’m sure there are other folks with similar CS stories regarding other brands, too. I say this because I think that all gun makers have times where they fail to get it right regarding warranty committments. I don’t expect every manufacturer to be perfect but I do expect them to support my request within the limit of the warranty. A good gun with bad warranty support = bad gun, in my opinion. If the gun maker comes off as sour or non-accomodating but eventually fully repairs your gun, that’s a bad gun. Having one very bad experience is going to sour the whole overall experience.

This is also the second time I’ve seen AF make decisions based on influencing. It seems as if they’d rather focus on appeasing influencers/entertainers than anyone else. Awhile back, I was speaking with one of their marketing folks in the AF subreddit – he said he wanted to help me and was considering sending me something but wanted to see my YouTube channel first. I wasn’t sure why he was asking, but I provided him the URL to my channel and afterward, he ghosted me. I’m sure he was going to offer to send me a T&E gun but saw that I’ve less than 1000 subscribers and decided that I wasn’t worth it.

AF has always had very weak CS. It made it difficult to advocate for them in the past.

So, I’m going to stop advocating for AF because I’m starting to see that they’re kinda shady.

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1911 2011 9mm AF1911-S15 Alpha Foxtrot Fusion Firearms

The Alpha Foxtrot Attila Is Here!

And I’ve shot it, as well as shooting the XP Comp! Both shoot ridiculously flat! They’re loud but shoot flat.

Some notes (actually a lot of notes), in no particular order:

  • I’ve detail stripped the gun already (I removed all but the mag release and the trigger assembly). There’s MIM but that was expected, as I think posted, on this forum a while back, that MIM being present in the -S15. There’s good and bad news regarding MIM with the Attila. The bad news first: there a new part that’s MIM. It’s the grip safety. The good news is that the part appears to no longer proprietary and looks to be a 1911-patterned part. I’ll include pics of the MIM parts so that folks that buy the gun can know what to replace with billet parts.
    • The following parts are MIM: ejector, grip safety, disconnector, sear, and the firing pin retaining plate.
    • The MIM parts are all replaceable with 1911-pattern parts.
    • The purpose of this info is to share the data points, not to hate on the gun. I’m hoping this thread doesn’t develop into a “I hate MIM” or “that gun sucks” thing.
  • The main spring is no longer appears to be proprietary, but I’ve not yet validated that.
  • The manual states the Attila isn’t rated for +P. I don’t typically shoot +P, but that info is nice to know.
  • I shot Blazer 124-gr thru the gun before remembering that Blazer does not recommend shooting the ammo through ported or comp’d guns. I didn’t see much crud in the comp, but I only shot maybe 90 rounds through it. [UPDATE: Yeah, there’s a decent amount of crud through the gun, but I’m unsure if it’s the Blazer or the Herter’s that left the crud – maybe both did?]
  • The front iron has tritium. It is also a Glock-pattern sight.
  • The gun doesn’t come with an optic cut cover, so if you aren’t an optics persion, you’ll be shooting the gun with a bare optic plate. That may bother some folks.
  • The gun comes with with two MOS plates – One for RMR, which is already mounted on the gun, and one for RMSC, which comes in a ziplock bag.
  • The comp is not threaded (good for those in states with laws that forbid threaded barrels).
  • The OEM thumb safeties (they’re ambi) are 1911-patterned, which was not the case with the -S15. The back end of the -S15 has a wide beavertail area, which means the thumb safeties are, by necessity, proprietary – the tangs on the safeties are longer than a standard 1911’s. Working on a strong hunch, I was able to fit a 1911-pattern single sided safety to the Atilla. The new safety is a Wilson Combat part.
  • The OEM ambi thumb safeties had a lot of play in them and I think the safeties weren’t installed properly from the factory. One side (right) was binding when trying to actuate the lever while the other side worked. I had to do a partial detail strip just to properly re-install the safeties.
  • The Attila is using the same recoil spring assembly as the -S15. The -S15 can also use a Kimber 3″ Ultra RSA without issue (I’ve validated that).
  • Trigger measures at 2 lb 15 oz (avg of 5 pulls).
  • Fitment is good – there are no wide gaps or generally funky fitment.
  • It fits the same holsters as the -S15.
  • I’ve a 407C mounted to the gun – it mounts fine but I don’t trust the screws…they seem inadequate, but I’ve almost 300 rounds through the gun and the sight has not moved.
  • The 407C will not cowitness with this gun’s irons.
  • The rear irons are not mounted to the slide – they are integrated with (not dovetailed into) the optic plates, so you can’t change the rear iron sight.
  • The grip texturing has improved – they’re more aggressive than what’s on the -S15 but not overly aggressive.
  • The trigger guard is now square, which means I can use this gun with my other 2011 holsters.
  • The -S15 is polished DLC, but there is no option for polished DLC with the Attila.
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1911 2011 9mm Fusion Firearms XP Pro

Have A Look At This!

This range session was the Sunday before Labor Day 2025.

This was at 10 yards, shooting at a 1″ orange dot, at a semi-rapid pace while still trying to be as accurate as possible.

I think this is the tightest grouping I’ve ever shot quickly at 10 yards. It’s tight enough to where you can pick any of 5 and they’ll be close to one another. Most of those are stacked on top of each other. I’m becoming super familiar with the gun – there’s not all that much recoiling in the footage, I’ve been working on my grip discipline, and I’ve been experimenting with trigger finger placement and trigger pull. As well, due to the minute recoil, and new grip texturing, I’m able to get quick and accurate follow-on shots.