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AMD 63 Mods On the Way!

My FFL hasn’t even received my AMD 63 yet and I’m already ordering mods for the rifle.

I usually frown upon that because I always want to know how a gun shoots before modifying it.  In this case, I want to swap out the handguard with Magpul bits.  The stock handguard is all-metal and are unshielded.  From my understanding, the handguard get hot.  The Magpul is shielded and appears very rugged.  Installing this also means that I’ll lose the foregrip, but I’m OK with that, as I’ve no experience with it.

The Magpul handguard comes with a gas tube cover, which is great because the gas tube is exposed on this rifle.

I had to order the AKM variant.  This will require some minor fitting but I’m OK with such things and there are YouTube videos on how to fit it to the AMD variants.

I may also order a rail that will attach to the gas tube (which will replace the Magpul gas tube cover), but that will come later.

I think I also need a magazine loader, so I ordered the Butler Creek ASAP Universal Magazine Loader for the AK47.

I also need a sight alignment tool, so I ordered the Magna-Matic Defense Front Sight Adjustment Tool.

I will also need to get some ammo but I’ll worry about that a bit later, as I’m not far from a few gun stores (and Cabelas, if I’m not seeing anything I like at the small gun stores).

The rifle arrives some time tomorrow, but I’ve work.  They’ll have to call me around 10 AM at the latest if they expect me to pick it up tomorrow, otherwise it will be picked up the next morning (they open at 10 AM).

Either way, I’ll be posting pics here between tomorrow and the next day.

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Ordered My First AK47!

Last night, while at work, I ordered my first AK47.

I ordered a Hungarian AMD 63 rifle that was built from original surplus parts sets.  This particular firearm is based on the Hungarian AKM.  The Hungarian AMD 63 replaced their AMD 65 (their 65s were more expensive to build and had reliability issues with the foregrip).

Note:  This rifle is mislabeled by importers.  It is actually an AKM 63.  The folding stock version is still called the AMD 65, though.

It will come with a composite stock, 5 30-round Tapco mags, a 4-cell mag pouch, and a AMD leather sling.

I ordered through Clearview Investors.

I was on the fence between an AMD 65 or an AMD 63. AMD 65s appeared to be much more difficult to find and also don’t have all that many mod options. The difference between the two is that the AMD 65 has a foldable stock (a metal piece that can be crooked). So, I opted for the AMD 63 instead.

This is the item I ordered.

The below is what is listed in the description at the above link.  I’ll list it here in case it changes in the future.

AK 47 Variant 7.62×39 Rifle
Original Hungarian FEG “Heavy Wall” Stamped Receiver
New U.S. 16.5” Barrel, 4140 chrome moly
Barrel threaded 14mm-1, standard AK threading
Muzzle Brake threaded on
Tapco G2 Trigger Group
Accepts hi-capacity magazines and drums
U.S. made Butt Stock
Plastic Pistol Grips (stained black)
922r compliant

7.15 lbs.
37.5” Overall length
7.62×39 Caliber

Built to our specs. from original AMD 65 parts,  from double stack rifles. This means that the bolt, bolt carrier, etc.. were made to handle double stack mags. The heavy wall receiver is an FEG with a double stack mag well.The rifles are built by Clearview Investments. They are well built using a new U.S. made barrel, with the gas port, front and rear sight blocks aligned carefully, assembled and then the entire assembly is parkerized. Each rifle is tested with a variety of mags prior to shipping.

Note : These rifles are built from original surplus part sets. Metal components have been professionally parkerized to a like new finish however grips and forearms are original and may show some rub or finish wear. Trust me though, overall these are nice. 

I’m definitely excited about this firearm, because I’ve been looking for AK variants for awhile.  I specifically wanted something that wasn’t going to beat itself up as I shot it, and it had to be not-too-expensive while also chambered in 7.62×39.

I initially started looking at Century Arms’ C39v2 because I liked the idea of an AK that was made in the U.S, but when I saw MAC’s and AKOU’s reviews of the rifle, I backed off.

I then researched PSA’s PSAK47, which is actually not a bad option.  I’d have probably had one by now if they’d been better stocked.  They were always out of stock.

I then researched the WASR 10s and N-PAPs.  In fact, I was researching those guns last night and was on the ak47 Reddit subpage when I saw an archived post of someone mentioning Clearview Investors as a good source for a rifle they mentioned, the AMD 63.  When I saw that the firearm was Hungarian-sourced and was on sale for $529 (regular price was $621), I began to feverishly research.  The only issue this rifle will have is carrier tail mushrooming.  Here’s an example, with pics.  From my understanding, the Tapco trigger is the cause of that (the metal of that trigger is harder than the metal of the carrier tail).  That can easily be fixed by installing a different trigger group (to a trigger group that is known not to mushroom the carrier group).  So, I’m trying to find out if anyone has had any luck with other-than-Tapco triggers.

I’ll also be needing to get some 7.62×39 (in bulk, which will be cheaper than buying range ammo).

I’ll review the rifle when I receive it (should receive it sometime this coming week but I work swing shift so it may be difficult to get until my next weekend.  We’ll see.

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Latest Range Visit – 4/2/2018

Today, I went to the range.  For those of you that do this weekly, you’re probably like, “Yeah, so what?”  Well, I was supposed to be going at least twice a month but for some reason, I’ve been putting it off.  This is a hobby but I sometimes go to extremes to the point where it is no longer fun.  I’ve to be careful because when I push myself, I sometimes end up ruining things.  I believe this is why I always change my mind when I’ve planned to go to the range.  The thing is, I need to push myself so that I learn and become better…I need to find the balance where I can push but not push too hard.

Today’s visit had many variables.  I’ll list them below:

  • I have new sights on the Glock 19.
  • I’m carrying my Glock 19 (concealed).
  • I’m now using 15-round mags – ETS brand.
  • I brought my P320 after installing the subcompact grip module, and I used the 12-round mags for this range visit.
  • I brought the Springfield Armory XD9 Mod 2 subcompact and used the short mag for this range visit (both the small and big mags are limited to 10 rounds).

I brought 250 rounds:  150 of Wolf 115-grain FMJ and 100 of Winchester white box 115-grain FMJ.

The first handgun I shot was the Glock 19.  I ensured that I loaded the ETS mags before I left the house (to save on range time…there’s nothing worse than burning range time loading mags that could’ve been loaded before you arrived).

I’ve not shot this handgun since installing the XS Big Dot sights.  I’d like to emphatically mention that I love these sights.  They are super easy to align and are super easy to get quickly onto the target.  They are defensive in nature, though, so they won’t do well shooting 50 yards out, but most handguns aren’t designed for that type of shooting.

Anyways, the Big Dot sights worked VERY well.  The ETS mags worked without a hiccup.  I shot 105 rounds of Wolf out of the Glock 19.  I had one round not chamber (last round of one mag).  Total round count is now 515 rounds (with no jams or malfunctions other than that one round not chambering – I’m not counting that as a malfunction, though).

I then shot the P320SC.  I hadn’t shot that since 11/2015 and the last time I shot it, I had the small subcompact grip module installed.  That grip module is too thin for me, so I bought the medium subcompact grip module which shoots a LOT better.  The bigger module helps my trigger finger placement…it basically fills my hand so that my finger placement falls naturally onto the trigger.  The smaller module is so thin that there’s too much room in my hand and most of my finger ends up folding around the trigger.

The P320SC shoots well, even with the contrast sights.  The dots are big so they’re easy to see.  The trigger has always been spectacular and the reset is also short, so the gun shoots very well.  The grip is short, though, so I can only get two fingers on the grip when using the 12-round mags.  I’ve mags for the compact model as well (I bought the gun as a compact) but using the compact mags is cheating.

I shot 95 rounds of WWB from the 320 today and the gun now has 176 rounds through it.  I may carry this gun after I give the Glock 19 a year of carry duty.

Lastly, I shot the Springfield Armory XD9 Mod 2 subcompact.  When I first started carrying, this was the gun I carried.  I shot 50 rounds of WWB from it today and have shot a total of 360 rounds from it.  As with the 320, this gun will only allow you to use two fingers on the grip with the short magazine, so it is a bit of a challenge to shoot, but I really think that I’m just used to guns with bigger grips.  I’m sure that I’ll shoot it better if I spend time with it.  In fact, when I used to carry it, it shot very well.  My thought was that I could carry it again, but I think it may require significant range time for me to get used to that handgun again.

Let’s go on a bit of a tangent.

With the recent anti-gun sentiment with Youtube, I’ve felt the need to seek out Youtube alternatives, so I’m giving the following websites a try – I’ve listed the site, linked it, and also linked my channel for each site:

Gunstreamer.com – https://gunstreamer.com/@Busta_Cap
Bitchute.com – https://www.bitchute.com/channel/busta_cap/
dailymotion.com – http://www.dailymotion.com/Busta_Cap
1776tv.com – https://1776tv.com/channel/227/

When I post to Youtube, I’ll now be also posting to the above sites.  I will probably not leave Youtube anytime soon unless they shut me down.  I want to stay on Youtube because that’s where the young folk are.  Those folk that may be considering owning a firearm and giving gun advocacy a try will be looking for videos such as mine (and other people that own guns and use Youtube as a means to shared information).  If every gun advocate left Youtube to spite Youtube, we would be shooting ourselves in the foot, especially since sites like the above and Full30.com are not yet at the level of Youtube.

And without further ado, here’s shooting footage with my trusty new camera (that can only hold 40 or so minutes of battery life):

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Quick Note – Applied for P320 Voluntary Upgrade

So, I’m carrying the Glock 19 now.  I’m struggling, actually.  I guess I’m so used to smaller handguns that I’m having issues adjusting to the grip (it’s large compared to the other handguns I’ve been conceal-carrying).  Since I’ve invested time, training, money, and mods into the gun, I’m pretty much stuck carrying it for at least a year.  I want to give it a year to assess if I’ll get used to it (I probably will).

So, I was thinking I could’ve carried my P320 instead.  I’ve the P320C but have a subcompact grip module that would allow me to have a small grip but still have 12-round mags.  So, while I’m currently carrying the Glock 19, I’ll send the P320 to Sig for the voluntary upgrade.  If you guys don’t already know, Sig had issues with the P320 firing when dropped.  They’ve fixed the issue and I’ve sent correspondence to them asking for the upgrade.  Once I’ve the upgrade, I’ll probably get another N82 IWB holster for the P320 and get either XS Big Dots or sights comparable to those.  Then I will probably carry that handgun next.

Again, though, I’ll be sticking with the G19 for at least a year just to give it a fair shake.

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Glock 19 as a Carry Gun?

I’ve decided to give my Glock 19 (Gen 4) a chance at concealed carry.

I can start carrying it immediately but actually want to get a few things first. Firstly, I already have a holster (an Alien Gear Cloak Tuck 3.0) and have the Glock 19 shell for it, but I ordered a N82 Tactical Professional IWB holster specifically for the Glock 19.  I’ve this same holster for my PX4 Storm and it is exceptional.  It will take awhile for me to receive it, though, since they are made to order. I also ordered new sights.  What did I order?  A set of XS Big Dot sights.  They should arrive tomorrow.  I can shoot well enough with the OEM U-sight system, but wanted something that would help me quickly focus on the front sight.  Since my eyesight is getting worse, I need an edge and I think the Big Dot system would give me that edge. I bought three (3) ETS mags 15-round mags, as well, since my particular Glock came with three (OEM) 10-round mags.  I need to try to sell the 10-rounders…I want more than 10 rounds in the firearm when carrying. There is one thing I need to get over when carrying the Glock.  I’m not used to carrying a firearm that’s striker-fired.  This firearm has no safeties (other than the internal and trigger safeties).  At least when I carried the XD Mod.2, I could rely upon the grip safety.  I’m well aware of the fact that I should “keep my booger hook off the trigger”…remember, I’ve been carrying awhile now, but firearms can and do go off without fingers touching the trigger, mainly during reholstering.

Also, I’ve been carrying small handguns the last few years.  The grip on the G19 is bigger than what I’m used to.  Hopefully, I can get used to that.  I’ve been carrying in the house without a magazine the last two days just to get used to the grip (and so I can get used to carrying a striker-fired handgun).  The Grip isn’t all that much bigger than the GP P11’s grip, so I don’t know why I’m having a difficult time with the G19’s grip.

All of these changes are due to me not being able to find viable sight options for the Thunder.  That’s a damned shame…that’s the ONLY thing I don’t like about the Bersa, but I NEED to be able to see the front sight.

UPDATE 1:  The sights arrived.  They are now on the gun.  Some comments:

  • With this set, only the front sight has tritium.  The rear does not.  That surprised me and now I know why the sights were so cheap.  I may later pony up for the rear tritium sight (I believe I can purchase it by itself).  I’m not returning them…they’re on the gun and it would be a hassle to remove and return them…as well, the OEM sights that I removed got scarred up and can’t be re-used (I suppose they could but screw that).  I think I need to find some soft-tipped punches.
  • The front dot’s tritium isn’t as bright as I thought it would be, but maybe I’m being a bit TOO critical.  I mean, I can see them easily when I’m in a dark room.  We’ll see how long they last.
You might hate James Yeager, but he absolutely makes several great points, as well as a great demonstration of long distance shots with the XS Big Dot sights…they are indeed accurate…you just have to read the instructions on how to use them, and understand bullet drop.
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Bersa Thunder Plus and Glock 19 – Bite Issues with One, Same-as-usual for the Other!

It’s been awhile since I’ve posted a video, so here it is.

The only woe I have (actually, HAD) was that the Bersa would sting the hell out of the webbing of my hand.  I’ve added Talon Grips (a strip along the back strap area) which I think helped, but I think the actual issue was that I didn’t have a firm grip on the gun, which made the edges of the beavertail (sharp edges) dig into the sensitive part of my hand.  I shot 200 rounds out of the Bersa tonight and didn’t get stung at all.

I also shot 100 rounds out of my Glock 19.  I’m falling in love with this gun…I’m becoming accurate as hell with it and it will eat ammo (rough ammo — Wolf) while being dirty…without issue.  What’s not to love?

Oh, and I’ve a treat.  I now have a camera that mounts to my range glasses that will capture footage of me shooting.  I’ve never been able to capture good footage of my range sessions until now.

Enjoy the video!

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Latest Happeninigs

What’s been going on?

I ordered a new OEM recoil spring for the Glock 22.  In fact, I ordered two of them.  I still haven’t contacted EFK Dragon Fire regarding the failed Glock 22 recoil spring that I bought last year.  Well, I contacted them via e-mail but they never responded.  I can contact them via phone but I feel if they’re ignoring their emails, I may as well review the spring in a negative light and write off the failure and not do business with them in the future.

How’s the Glock 22 with the new OEM spring?  It’s good enough, although the gun’s recoil is still quite strong.  I took it to the range, thinking the high grain would dampen the recoil some.  Nope, it’s not enough IMO.  The high recoil of this handgun is why I bought the EFK Dragon Fire spring in the first place.  I think the better route would be for me to get a Gen 4 Glock 22…the double spring is almost certainly going to handle the recoil of .40 Cal better than the Gen 2’s single spring, but I only bought the G22 because it was cheap and because I could use the RIA 22TCM9R convert kit with the G22 frame.

As well, the G22 sights aren’t helping me…the tritium vials are dark so the sights are difficult to use.  I do not really want to spend huge amounts of money on this particular handgun.

Now, even though I shot the G22 and noticed the recoil wasn’t what I’d like it to be, I appear to be a bit more accurate with the gun now with the new OEM recoil spring.  That’s something, at least, but the recoil was enough to where I only shot 30 rounds from the gun (2 mags).  I brought 180-grain Remington green/white box ammo.  There were no failures.

I then bought 150 rounds of 115-grain Wolf steel-cased ammo from my Gen 4 Glock 19.  There were no failures.  The gun now has 310 rounds through it.  I’m not used to it.  It has recoil that I’m not used to, probably due to the fact that I’ve been carrying and shooting metal-framed handguns the past 2-3 years.  I’ve been thinking on carrying this particular gun but will need lots of time shooting it before I’m comfortable with the shooting characteristics.  Plus, I want to get 15-round OEM mags for the gun (it came with 10-round OEM mags).  We’ll see.

I said I’ve been thinking on carrying the G19.  Why?  Because I also shot my current carry gun (I only carry one firearm at a time), the Bersa Thunder 380 Plus, and I’m still experiencing sharp biting on the web of my strong hand.  I shot 100 rounds of Speer Lawman 95-grain FMJ this time around.  I shot this same ammo the last two times I shot the Bersa.  My range notes say that I noticed sharp bites in May 2017 as well.  When I shot the gun prior to this last range visit (Oct 2017), I didn’t noticed the sharp biting and I shot that same ammo.  I’m tiring of the biting, so it may be time to train on a different handgun.

I can still carry my Beretta PX4 Storm, but it is rather thick…that’s the only turn-off in carrying that handgun.  I can also carry the Sig SP2022 but it’s not a small gun either (roughly the same size and thickness as my PX4).  I’ve the XD Mod 2 that I can start carrying again, or even the Grand Power P11 (once I have Eagle Imports investigate the fails to return to battery).

Lastly, I’m having an issue with arthritis in my fingers and it sometimes makes shooting uncomfortable.  This really sucks because there’s no real way to mitigate shooting complications caused by arthritis, other than to move to low calibers, which I’m not going to do.  As well, I carry a .380 and that still causes pain (not in my fingers, but in the webbing between thumb and finger).  I may have to just put up with it or medicate myself before a range visit.  :/

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A Revisit – Grand Power P11

I’d not visited the range since June 2017 so I packed up a bag yesterday evening and took the Grand Power P11, just to see if the gun would fare any better with the fails to return to battery.  As well, someone on Youtube mentioned that I was riding the slide.  I’ll admit that I took personal offense to that, because I know for a fact that I’m not riding the slide on any gun, much less the P11 (if I were, I would be having issues with more than just the P11).  And, another very well known Youtuber has been having the exact same issues (that would be MAC – Military Arms Channel) with his P1.

I bought ammo at the range, 100 rounds of American Eagle 115-gr FMJ.  I’ve ammo at home but wanted to try ammo that I know most of my guns will run without issue.  I don’t think I’ve ever had any issues with American Eagle in any of my firearms.

I ensured the P11 was lubed before I left home.  It has been clean and unfired since May 2017.  The lube I used is Motul 5w20.  It’s a tad heavy, but I also used a fine coat of CLP on the typical places where the P11 needs lube.

The handgun ate all the rounds without failing to return to battery…all but one.  It failed on round 94.  I was disappointed.  100 rounds isn’t much…it couldn’t get through 100 rounds without failing.

Another Youtuber insists that I call Eagle Imports and have them look into the issue.  I may do that but I may just call Gallery of Guns (that’s where I bought it from…they’ve lifetime guarantees of their firearms).  Whichever will be the path of least resistance will be good.

The range visit made me miss carrying the P11.  It is and has always been accurate and comfortable in my hands.  I miss carrying it, but I just can’t stand the failures to return to battery.

I’ll open it up later today to see how dirty the gun is.  I’m sure I’ll see a ton of carbon (even with me using just a bit of oil) where the barrel rides in the frame…that’s the only place that can get dirty enough to cause battery issues.  It makes me wonder if I should stop putting lube in that location.

UPDATE:

 Here are pictures of the dirty areas of the gun.  There is carbon that has coated the oil and it was causing friction that is preventing the barrel from rotating properly, which is causing the failures to return to battery.  If CLP doesn’t work, or even regular 5w20 motor oil, WTF is going to be good enough to prevent this sort of thing?  Maybe something IS out of spec…

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Canik Firearms

For those of you that don’t mind Turkish guns (the non-Nationalists out there, maybe), Caniks are very nice guns.  They’ve a good polymer gun presence in the US gun market.  A few of their polymer guns are the TP9 SF, The TP9 SF Elite, and the TP9 SFX.  They no longer sell the TP9 SA, but have reworked their TP9 v2:  it is now called the TP9 DA.

Canik also sells all-metal guns.  Canik Sharks and their variants are available on the market, but I do believe they’re no longer imported by Century Arms.  Tristar is an importer of Caniks.  Any handguns they have are actually Caniks.  Tristar handguns are just rebranded Caniks.  A few of those guns are:  the C120, C100, T120, T100, and P100.  Most people refer to these guns as CZ clones, mainly due to the slide rails being inverted compared to traditional gun slides.  They are not actual clones…they may share similar parts but you actually won’t be able to swap most parts internal to a CZ75, for example, into a Tristar C120.  I don’t call them clones.  I call them CZ-inspired.

Now, about my Nationalist comment.  Many people tend to get their panties in a bind when they discover that Caniks are gaining popularity.  These people usually can’t hold back the “I don’t support terrorism” comment.  The general population of Turkey should not be held accountable for the few radicals they have.  The US has radicals as well.  If people held the US accountable like the US citizens always want accountability with other countries (such as Turkey), there probably wouldn’t be an uproar.  The things we do to our own citizens here is actually appalling, yet we’ll make generalist comments about a damned Turkish gun maker.  Caniks are imported by US businesses.  The money spent on these guns are staying in the US…it’s going to those that work in those US businesses, to people like you and I.  I wish I could buy a Canik every time I heard these comments, just so I could tell those folks, “every time one of you open your mouth, I buy a Canik.”  I’m a military veteran and I’m about as red-blooded as one can be and I own three of these guns.  It doesn’t bother me one bit.  You can love your country and buy imported goods without issue, IMO.  Every person is different.  I feel I can do whatever the hell I want with my money, for one.  Secondly, for every Nationalist that tells me that I’m unpatriotic because I bought a Turkish gun, I ask them, “have you served your country?  Have you fought on foreign soil?”  It usually shuts them up because most of those folk have never seen the world beyond the town they live in.

As well, those of you that feel that “it isn’t a Glock”…no shit.  You can own both.  Some people say, “well, aftermarket support isn’t on the level of Glock”.  Well, there aren’t many gun makes that have the level of aftermarket support of Glocks.  Still, all you have to do is Google Search on “Canik TP9 holsters” or “Canik TP9 sights” and you’ll see a ton of hits…it won’t be like there’s a scarcity of such info…trust me, I did several such searches the other day when someone commented that Caniks weren’t wanted.  I also posted the results.  I also said, “there’s a whole world beyond just Glocks.  I own several Glocks and several Caniks and I like both.  There’s room for both.”  The guy never responded back.  It was probably because such details are difficult to refute.

If you’re new to Caniks or want to know more about them, check out the Canik Fanatik web forum..

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Trigger Measurements – Part II

Yesterday I posted some trigger pull measurements of some of my handguns.  After seeing those results, I was curious as to how the rest of my handguns compared.

For each handguns, I measured trigger pull by averaging out 5 pull results.  I also posted low measurements for the majority of them.

Here are the results:

Bersa Thunder 380 Plus –DA – 7lb even, with a low of 6lb 4oz
SA – 3lb 10oz, with a low of 3lb 9oz

Beretta PX4 Storm Compact –DA – 9lb 4oz, with a low of 8lb 15oz
SA – 3lb 12oz, with a low of 3lb 3oz

Springfield Armory XD9 Mod.2 Subcompact – 4lb 9oz average, with a low of 4lb 6oz

Ruger SR9C –5lb 7oz, with a low of 5lb 1oz

Glock 19 –5lb 5oz average with a low of 5lb even

SIG Sauer P320 Compact –5lb 7oz average with a low of 5lb 3oz

Metro Arms American Classic Commander (1911) – 2lb 15oz average with a low of 2lb 8oz (!!)

I had no idea that 1911 would measure that low.  It’s one of three 1911s that I own, but it’s also one of the best that I own.  I knew it was good but didn’t know the trigger would generate such a low measurement.  I’ll update this page later tonight with the results of the triggers of the other two 1911s, just to compare all three of them.

UPDATE:

I measured my 1911s:

Rock Island Armory MS 1911 (22tcm) – 2lb 12oz average with a low of 2lb 10oz

Rock Island Armory MS 1911 (9mm) – 3lb 13oz average with a low of 3lb 8 oz

UPDATE 2:

I measured my Glock 22 Gen 3 police trade-in (has a 5 lb trigger):

Glock 22 Gen 3 (40 S&W) – 4lb 10.8oz average of 5 with a low of 4lb 4.9oz

Springfield Armory XD45 Mod.2 Subcompact – 5lb 0.1oz average with a low of 4lb 10oz